The Joe Rogan Experience XX
[0] I get so pumped up for these.
[1] Fight companion, if you've never heard one of these before, ladies and gentlemen, I'll probably explain this in the introduction for the people that have to listen to the audio version of it only.
[2] We just watch fights and we talk shit.
[3] We may or may not discuss the actual fight itself.
[4] Most of the time, we don't.
[5] But today, it's with the great Joey motherfucking Diaz.
[6] Thank you for having me. Thanks for being here, brother.
[7] I'm excited.
[8] I'm excited about our show.
[9] at the car theater tomorrow night yes out of all the fights on the card dosanos alvarez was the fight really that was my fight for the whole weekend the whole weekend I didn't know when it was I thought it was on the undercard I didn't know what it was yeah this one tonight I've been waiting for it this to me is a fucking boring burner I'm looking forward to it for sure because Alvarez is very tough and he makes every fight tough he's a tough dude and I think he's going to have a real good game plan coming in I think he's going to be as prepared as you've ever going to see him because you've seen him off some hard fights in the UFC you know he had uh that war with cowboy seroni got got lit up especially his leg he got his leg kicked he just got introduced to the next level of mama but coming off of a victory like that over pettis and he beat gilbert too and uh he had a fight through adversity in the gilber melendez fight he had a seriously fucked up eye remember his eyes sweatsh yes yes that's right he's a tough he's a tough dude you gotta you know you got to put him away man and that's tough to fucking do he's as game as they get but this dude is special this dosanjos is special he's um he's hit a very high level over the last couple years and he's his skill level is higher than it's ever been it's like a bunch of different things coming together one it's hafeel cordaro hafell cordero is such a good coach the coach of king's mama the one the original guys from shoot the box in Curitiba, Brazil, those guys were so badass.
[10] I mean, he's from such a badass lineage.
[11] He's from the early days of Ninja and Anderson Silva.
[12] And he's the guy who took Fabrizio Verdum from a guy who really wasn't a striker at all, just a jujitsu artist.
[13] And he brought him to the heavyweight title.
[14] And now you look at Fabricio striking.
[15] He made a big mistake, obviously, in the Stepe Miochik fight, but I think Steepi Miochik's a bad motherfucker.
[16] If he catches you, he catches you.
[17] You know, he tried to go to war.
[18] war with Stepe and Steppe just was better at moving away and countering him and he got careless and left some openings and it could have been because he was in Brazil, he was a real emotional, you know, who knows?
[19] He fucked up and Stepe's a bad motherfucker.
[20] So those two are a bad combination together.
[21] But that said, you look at like Verdume striking against Travis Brown.
[22] It's excellent.
[23] His striking against Kane Velasquez.
[24] It's excellent.
[25] Excellent.
[26] Long, snaps that jab out, keeps you to distance, throws hard kicks because he wants you to take him down.
[27] How about that?
[28] He wants you.
[29] Put him on his back.
[30] Good luck with that.
[31] Good luck with the nastiest guard the heavyweight division has ever seen, arguably.
[32] He's a motherfucker.
[33] I mean, Frank Mears snapped arms.
[34] I mean, you got to go with, like, if you want to look at, like, effective submissions in the heavyweight division in MMA, it's tough to not give the nod to Frank Mear.
[35] Tapped Lesnar with a knee bar, snapped Minotaro's arm, snapped him, Sylvia's arm.
[36] Just maybe not for his overall career, because he's definitely had ups and downs, but been in some amazing.
[37] amazing fights, but his submission victories are fucking horrendous.
[38] He breaks bones, man. Who the fuck else breaks bones?
[39] Frank Mears breaking bones with arm bars.
[40] Breaking bones with Kimori.
[41] He broke fucking Minotaro's arm.
[42] Snapped it in half where he was looking over at it.
[43] Like, holy shit.
[44] So it's hard not to give the nod to Frank Mear when it comes to like overall MMA guard skill.
[45] But that said, man, the technical ability.
[46] that Verdume has is off the charts.
[47] The way he wraps you up is so neat.
[48] He just tucks everything tight.
[49] Like that Fador arm bar?
[50] Oh my God.
[51] I mean, he just slapped that on him.
[52] Or Fadoer was stuck in that guard.
[53] And you could see in his eyes, he was like, oh, shit.
[54] Like, this is like, the water's heavier.
[55] I can't drink it.
[56] Like, I can't get up to get where the air is.
[57] Holy shit.
[58] It just gets crushed into those legs.
[59] He's fucking huge, too.
[60] He's a giant guy.
[61] I mean, like, legit, 240.
[62] Doesn't really have to lift much to be like 240.
[63] He's a huge guy.
[64] For Doom's no joke, man. So for Steppe Miochik to take him out like that, fuck, that was a victory.
[65] And to do it in Brazil?
[66] That must have been nuts, man. That was like 40 ,000 people or something crazy, right?
[67] It was a soccer stadium.
[68] Jesus.
[69] Yeah, he didn't give a fuck.
[70] There was zero fucks given in Mayochek's world.
[71] In Mayoch's world, there was zero fucks.
[72] He had no idea.
[73] in Brazil.
[74] Well, he's, that dude is as legit as they get.
[75] His mindset is so strong.
[76] He's so calm.
[77] He's so calm right before he throws down, man. And you know what?
[78] More now than ever, because he's been there and done that, that war that he had with Junior Dos Santos.
[79] I mean, that was a fucking war.
[80] Experience is a motherfucker in this UFC and an MMA.
[81] Experience is it, man. Yeah, it is it.
[82] But he's also got a lot of skill, and he's getting better.
[83] That's the other thing about stepe's getting better i mean he's always been a motherfucker but he's better now than he's ever been better mentally stronger more steady like everything about him's better now he has what's his name in cleveland when alster overe him in october oh september september something like september i think september in cleveland oh oh you want to go that's a barn burner right now i don't know what the date is let's do a do let's do a show on friday night my october's jacked on september's a jacked you're too goddamn popular no no no no no i do the every other The other week thing, but the nose, the special, everything is just falling in, you know, it's just October 15th.
[84] I shoot, so everything is wrapped around that pretty much.
[85] Beautiful.
[86] But Cleveland's, that's going to be fun.
[87] And the people that are going to be there to support Steep Bay, because right now, I mean, they've got basketball and now they've got the UFC heavyweight champion.
[88] Put the show together.
[89] I'm open.
[90] You're open?
[91] I think I'm open.
[92] Oh, shit.
[93] Saturday, September 10th?
[94] I think I'm open.
[95] So the Friday, the 9th would be where we do the show.
[96] Beautiful, let's do it.
[97] I think I'm open there.
[98] That's a crazy fight, too.
[99] That's an interesting fight.
[100] Because Alster has been fighting very smart lately.
[101] Man, he's just put it together really nicely in his last few fights.
[102] Is he still at Jackson's?
[103] Yes, he's still at Jackson's, I think.
[104] Part -time, I think.
[105] Pretty sure.
[106] I'm pretty sure he's still at Jackson's.
[107] The thing about him again, he was in pride and all that stuff.
[108] He was the heavyweight champ or the champion in kickboxing.
[109] You know, there comes a time in your life when you put the pieces together.
[110] And we're starting to see it now.
[111] Yep.
[112] From Alistair to Nate Diaz to all these fighters that years ago, they lost one.
[113] You know, who really lost her?
[114] He lost to Clay Gwita.
[115] Yeah.
[116] Dosanjo's a broken jaw.
[117] Yeah.
[118] You know, and look what he's gone on to do.
[119] Crazy.
[120] So it's, they put it all together.
[121] It's like when a comedian gets a show.
[122] You know how hard it is for a comedian together?
[123] the show all the stars have to be aligned right you know everything has to be in order everything just to get it on right that's a complete everybody gets pilots every year but just to really get to that high level that you're talking about takes years you know maybe you maybe cordero when he went to corderos corduro put it all together the jihitsu and the boxing or the kickboxing put it all together it definitely is a big part of it's a big part of it you know what else is a big part of it his strength and conditioning program.
[124] He's one of those guys who trains under Nick Curzon.
[125] Do you know Nick Curzon?
[126] Nick Curzon is one of the students of Marv Marinovich.
[127] You know the Marv Morinovich and Todd Morinovich story.
[128] Yeah, and Marv Morinovich was a world famous strength and conditioning coach with some seriously unconventional, wild ideas that were very, very effective.
[129] And he trained BJ Penn for a couple camps.
[130] And Nick Curzon is one of his disciples.
[131] and Nick Kurson handles Dosanjos and quite a few other guys.
[132] Ruslan Pravindnikov.
[133] How do he say his name?
[134] Ruslan Pravadnikov, right?
[135] I'm so high.
[136] Definitely shouldn't be doing this podcast right now.
[137] Provodnikov.
[138] The Siberian Rocky, you know the guy I'm talking about.
[139] He trains that guy too.
[140] And Joe Schilling, he's done some work with Joe.
[141] He's a really good strength and conditioning guy.
[142] And Cardero and the combination of like high -level MMA, high -level jiu -titsu and this radical strength and conditioning program these guys do all these pliometrics it's all this box jumps everything's like exploding and resting everything's like very carefully monitored it's really interesting stuff man do a lot of stuff with your feet that's one thing that uh he said that kind of blew my mind i was like yeah i didn't even think of that he goes i go what's the most important thing like what do you work on a guy the most when you first start training him and he's like their feet he's like foot strength is like one of the biggest like weaknesses that a lot of fighters have like their feet will get tired and so you don't push off you can't push off as hard you can't move as well your footwork starts to suck you can't explode in or out when you see a guy who's got like real good footwork and like this the ability to dive in and out and move very well and fast you realize what a giant advantage that is like Connor does it so well leoto did it so well wonder boy does it so well oh shit Joe Duffy Joe Duffy banging on Mitch Clark Joe Duffy very upset Coming into this fight after losing a Dustin Poyer He's got a rear naked choke on him Clark taps Wow beautiful Joe Duffy's a bad motherfucker He was a bad motherfucker but You know he ran into Poyer When Poyer had Finally figured out that 155 was the healthy weight class for him That he was just killing himself Making that 145 limit He's a big boy You ever standing next to Dustin Poyier?
[143] He's a big dude He's a big dude.
[144] He's a big dude to get down 145 pounds.
[145] These guys that do that, man, they are...
[146] When did he fight last?
[147] He looked really fucking good.
[148] He fought Bobby Green, knocked him out.
[149] Really good.
[150] TK