The Joe Rogan Experience XX
[0] Oh, yeah, that's all he is.
[1] Boom, and we're live.
[2] That's it.
[3] Hi.
[4] Hello, Reggie.
[5] Yeah, this stuff purple venom.
[6] That's what he calls it?
[7] That's what his friend calls it.
[8] And, yeah, his friend's like, you know, I'm pretty skeptical about other people's stuff.
[9] Did you have a Coke nail?
[10] Is that a Coke nail?
[11] No. No, I know.
[12] They're super long.
[13] People think that their Coke nails do not.
[14] Are they fake?
[15] No. They're real.
[16] But you don't do Coke?
[17] I don't do Coke.
[18] Ever?
[19] Have you ever done Coke?
[20] I mean, I do Coke Zero.
[21] I have done, I have done.
[22] No. It's like Coke light.
[23] It's like it looks like Coke.
[24] You can snort it.
[25] It feels like Coke, but it doesn't give you high.
[26] No, I have.
[27] I've tried it, I would say, honestly, maybe four times.
[28] And I've never, it's always, it just felt like I just took three shots of espresso.
[29] And it's not really, it doesn't do anything for me, then I'm like, I better get, better invest in that.
[30] I need to try it one day because I just, I need to know what's going on.
[31] I'm 51 years old.
[32] How do I, I don't know what Coke is?
[33] I, you know, I think it's worth, I mean, if you don't, if you, you know, if you don't have a predisposition for being a hyper addictive personality type.
[34] Oh, I definitely do, but I'm also wise enough to know.
[35] Yeah, I mean, I can quit things.
[36] Yeah, I mean, you've got experience.
[37] You can control yourself.
[38] But like, I was never, I was never like, I guess I've just never been someone who's like, oh shit, got to have that forever.
[39] Like, I've never been that way.
[40] The only thing that I'm reduced to now is just weed.
[41] That's it.
[42] Well, me too.
[43] But I also think that it's one of those things if you're, if your life.
[44] is healthy.
[45] If you have a good balance and you're enjoying your time and you're being creative and you have good friends and you have fun, you're not looking for something to fuck your life up.
[46] I think many of the times when you're dealing with people that have like severe debilitating addictions that are really just taking over their life, there's something else going on.
[47] Almost always.
[48] It's like problems.
[49] You know, relationship problems, work problems, life problems.
[50] Yeah.
[51] They're not happy.
[52] Yeah.
[53] There's an emptiness.
[54] There's an emptiness that wants to be fed. Or maybe you have a lot of success and you're freaking out about.
[55] the success.
[56] I think that happens with some celebrities.
[57] Yes, I think so.
[58] Yeah, over -stimulation.
[59] Let's do this.
[60] Oh, yeah.
[61] Let's do it.
[62] Yeah.
[63] Here it is.
[64] You can have the first.
[65] I used an automated machine.
[66] The auto, have you heard of it?
[67] No. So cool.
[68] It's like this like little grinder and a grinder and it and it fits on a tube that you put an empty rolling thing in there.
[69] So you like you put that in there.
[70] Oh, you got it.
[71] And then it's like a yeah, it's like a clear tube.
[72] You put in the pre -rolled, you know, empty whatever joint thing.
[73] And then and then and then you put this machine that just goes over, attaches magnetically, and then you put in your weed, and you just press a button.
[74] And it's like coffee maker's like, what's that?
[75] And it fills it up perfectly, and then you just pack it by shaking it and twisting it, and you're done.
[76] These goddamn stoners today.
[77] They're getting too crazy.
[78] I know.
[79] I rarely smoke.
[80] I always make exceptions for stuff like this.
[81] You rarely?
[82] Oh, look at it.
[83] Yeah.
[84] Wow.
[85] That's actually pretty sleek looking.
[86] Yeah, it's by Banana Brothers, I think.
[87] You know, I smoke pretty regularly, but I got high with Be Real.
[88] I did this smoke box show.
[89] Oh, who's Be Real?
[90] Cypress Hill.
[91] Oh, Seppers Hill.
[92] How dare you?
[93] I apologize.
[94] Just so you know, I know nothing about hip -hop.
[95] God damn, Reggie.
[96] How do you not know anything about Cyprus Hill?
[97] I know.
[98] I know people are always like, you got to know about hip -hop.
[99] I'm like, I know.
[100] I know.
[101] I know Rund DMC.
[102] You really don't know any hip -hop?
[103] Now, I kind of stopped after the Bohemian phase.
[104] You know, like after trying to try.
[105] called Quest and De La Sol.
[106] De La Sol.
[107] Like, it just kind of lost me because then it turned in.
[108] I like gangster in the beginning, you know, because it was something new and you're like, what the fuck is this?
[109] Oh, that's so cool, you know.
[110] But then it kind of morphed into club hop where it just was all about bitches and cars and all this shit.
[111] And it was really the lyrics, the beats I loved.
[112] I thought it was cool.
[113] But I just got tired of it.
[114] I mean, I because I left in 95, I left to hip hop in 95, 96.
[115] And then I know there's plenty of hip hop heads.
[116] I'll be like, dude, you got check out, so you got check out, I know there's shit loads of shit.
[117] And maybe I'll go back into that phase, but mostly I just like the beats and the production, and the lyrics I'm not really.
[118] I'm not a lyrics guy anyways.
[119] I am a lyrics guy, and Nas is definitely my favorite lyricist because this stuff is so creative.
[120] Like, what was that one when we did everything backwards, did the whole song backwards?
[121] Like, he started at the end and then, what the fuck was that called?
[122] James was going to go rewind?
[123] Yeah.
[124] I mean, super creative.
[125] Yeah.
[126] It made you look like, I saw that and I was like, that was actually a moment where I was like, oh, am I going to start getting back into this shit?
[127] Because it was intelligent.
[128] Yeah.
[129] You know what I mean?
[130] Like, my thing is like, if you're going to be boastful and all that shit, it should be like Muhammad Ali.
[131] Right, right, right.
[132] You're super clever.
[133] You have clever, flair.
[134] Also, you can just be right in someone's face.
[135] But I like that.
[136] But then when people are like kind of going off about how much money they have and all that shit, I'm like, I don't really care about that.
[137] Well, I've analyzed this many times while under the influence.
[138] And the culture, it comes from not having something.
[139] And then once you have something, brag about it, right?
[140] Like, that's like Jay -Z.
[141] Like, that's 99 problems.
[142] He talks about that and 99 problems.
[143] Yeah, I mean, I get it.
[144] I get it.
[145] But, like, at the same time, if it just sounds like basically the three things that everyone talks about, which is, like, women, cars of some sort, and money, or the things you can buy with money, after a while, it just all bleeds together.
[146] It's all this, it's the same song.
[147] And, I mean, it's so dope that you can.
[148] come from nothing and you can work your way up and you can hustle and you can get stuff going in but like once you get to that place like why not take advantage of that platform what about run the jewels I've heard good things about it chance the rapper I've heard good things about it god damn I know I don't know shit man I'm more of like a Run the Jules is so creative I'm an electronic guy I like it like music yeah let me turn you on some run the Jules please I wish we could play it on the podcast but then we can't do that anymore back in the day yeah they will run your jewels right out of town but back in the day when you had a like the internet was no one knew what a podcast was you could do all kinds of shit you could just play things I mean you still can I mean if it was live stream you could take down you get demonetized you get a strike against your channel if you get three strikes they take your channel down permanently it's all super sketching you using YouTube yes okay that's the real problem I assume is the real problem I'm I'm uh I'm bypassing all that very soon what are you doing?
[149] I'm just doing my own live streaming that's smart yeah because that way I just don't have to worry about all that bullshit yeah ultimately that's where it's probably going to have to go yes but at the same time everybody's at YouTube yeah so so the secret is or the question is like how can you well you can do both yeah exactly I think that that's the way to go you want a zero zero alcohol hynican are you serious yeah I'll try a zero yeah because my problem with alcohol is alcohol yeah so these are actually very good they taste like a regular heineken check what I thought If you see these.
[150] What is that?
[151] It's a micro -tech, California legal switchblade.
[152] What?
[153] Yeah.
[154] What are you stabbing people at a tiny knife?
[155] What are you doing, Reg?
[156] What the fuck's been going on since I saw you last?
[157] I like it.
[158] Well, I like having a...
[159] I'm from Montana.
[160] You always have a knife.
[161] It's like the greatest tool.
[162] But it makes sense.
[163] How's the button go?
[164] Okay, so hold it the opposite way.
[165] Turn it around, flip it around.
[166] Yeah.
[167] And then the button on the top side.
[168] see there's like a lever no this thing here yeah that so this is on the back this is a glass breaker okay a glass breaker yeah for like if you're in your car you know or whatever and you needed to break the window but here's the switch is that really what that's for yes let me say that so this would break your window yeah hmm but how many people do you think could break a window with this I bet if you got a lot of people I just saw a video there's a thing get some old car windows and, like, line them up and just fucking...
[169] Yeah, because...
[170] It seems like...
[171] That's like kind of a weird, like, standardized tip for glass breakers.
[172] Really?
[173] Isn't that crazy?
[174] So, would you get it...
[175] See, but it seems like it's slide in your hand.
[176] It doesn't...
[177] It's too small.
[178] I think if you, you know, if you wedged it in, if you held it tight in your fist, you know, with your thumb over, I think if you hit at...
[179] It's more about velocity, I think, rather than strength.
[180] Just whack it.
[181] Yeah, because the way it's designed is to just be, like, super, like, precise strike.
[182] What you want?
[183] It's carrying a glass breaker with them, man. I'm not playing the games You're ready Do you have water?
[184] You have like bottled water in your car At all times?
[185] I have bottled water I have a jump jumper Self You know You can jump yourself You know If you have bottled water in your car In LA You're basically drinking What is that shit That comes the leaks Into your plastic PC BPAs Oh I'm not using I have glass It's all glass You have glass How dare me No fuck that I mean I mean like people are gonna be like Bitching Because I talk about plastic viles All the time But It's here Yeah, it's here.
[186] Yeah, we need a better solution for that.
[187] We should probably get glass and get a water jug.
[188] Yeah, you just get a municipal filter.
[189] Yeah.
[190] And that's it.
[191] And you get alkalized water, room temperature, whatever.
[192] And you can just have clean water and you just have tons and tons of vessels.
[193] I'm sure what someone would BKR would sponsor you or something like that.
[194] What's BKR?
[195] They're like a, I guess, a canteen company or water carrying, like jug company.
[196] We could have people drink out of mason jars.
[197] That would be dumb.
[198] You were like old folksy.
[199] Hell yeah.
[200] Hell yeah.
[201] Old timing.
[202] Are you kidding?
[203] Yeah, it'll be like, you know, like grandma's kitchen cupboard.
[204] Yeah, why do people like drinking down in Mason jars?
[205] I think it started with grandmas.
[206] What was that band?
[207] What was that one band?
[208] No. There was that one sort of bluesy, rocky band that pretty recently.
[209] Mumford and sons?
[210] Bam.
[211] Jamie's a goddamn wizard.
[212] Jamie's a goddamn wizard.
[213] How he do it?
[214] How he do it?
[215] He knows what I'm going to ask.
[216] before he Googles it.
[217] He's a wizard.
[218] He's got something.
[219] He's got something, some special talent.
[220] But yeah, those guys, they dressed like they were from another era, right?
[221] They wore, like, weird clothes from, like, the pioneer days.
[222] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[223] They look like time travelers, like from a steampunk era.
[224] Yeah.
[225] I mean, kind of.
[226] I mean, I know what you're saying.
[227] Like, in the beginning.
[228] Oh, yeah, yeah.
[229] Yeah, she's great.
[230] She's great.
[231] She's really funny.
[232] Yeah, I follow her.
[233] She's awesome.
[234] I wish I remember her joke, but she had a funny joke about Mumford and Sons and Mason jars.
[235] Really?
[236] Oh, sweet.
[237] Oh, that's good.
[238] I think it was like something to the tune of, you know, she used Mason jars for real.
[239] Not like this bullshit.
[240] Oh, yeah, yeah.
[241] She actually grew up poor.
[242] I think that was it.
[243] I apologize for them wrong.
[244] That was, I mean, that's very funny.
[245] I mean, she is, I mean, she's so rad.
[246] I saw her in, uh, where were we're in, oh, in Australia, Sydney.
[247] She's doing a podcast with Tom Papa.
[248] Oh.
[249] Yeah.
[250] Who's Tom Papa?
[251] Sorry.
[252] How dare you again?
[253] Sorry, guys.
[254] Tom Papa is a brilliant stand -up comedian.
[255] Really, really funny guy.
[256] Super, super nice guy, too.
[257] And he's the master of bread.
[258] He makes bread.
[259] Oh, shit.
[260] He makes his own sourdough bread, and it is sensational.
[261] Oh, that, that's, that's, that's too much for one person to be able to do that.
[262] He comes over here, he brings a loaf of bread and grass -fed butter.
[263] Oh, no. Bro, you cannot resist.
[264] You cannot resist this bread.
[265] It's bread is so good.
[266] Fuck your keto diet.
[267] If it doesn't include Tom Papa's bread Fuck your keto diet Does he sell it at a baker?
[268] No no no no He just makes it himself There he is And he has a television show He's doing on a food network Where he's visiting bakers He's a brilliant guy And a super nice guy Like couldn't be a nicer guy And he just loves making bread He's so silly That's me eating his bread It's so good And it's like I really believe this That if you get food From someone who's really cool Like it feels different and it tastes different.
[269] And Tom's just, Tom is just such a nice guy.
[270] He's so funny and he's so smart.
[271] Like when you're eating his bread, like you feel like, I'm eating a cool guy's bread.
[272] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[273] You know, it's like someone who you love cooks you something.
[274] Like if your mom cooks you something, it's like, wow.
[275] It's not just good, it's good and it comes from love.
[276] Yeah, yeah, yeah, because the other person who made it is just standing right there while you're having it.
[277] Yeah.
[278] It's pretty unique experience, especially for bread.
[279] Yeah.
[280] I think that's the big thing with food, too, with cooking you know i i never really thought of food as an art form until i started watching no reservations which was uh anthony bourne's original show oh yeah back when he's on the travel channel okay and then i was like oh like duh like i in my head like they were just cooks like they just cooking food because i cooked food before i used to work in new port creamery i made burgers yeah i made grill cheese yeah sure yeah yeah that's cooking so it's like i knew how to put the fucking fries in Yeah.
[281] But watching these chefs create these, like, really elaborate creative dishes, you start going, oh, oh, this is an art form.
[282] It's just like a weird one, like where it's temporary.
[283] It only exists for a short window in time.
[284] But now that we have film of it, and now that we have photographs of it, like things on Instagram, now you start to appreciate that, oh, it looks amazing too.
[285] Like, that's part of the thing.
[286] It's not like, if you could have, like, the most incredible steak, but it came to you and it looked like the shittiest looking lentil soup.
[287] Like split pea soup.
[288] Like a split, just the, just the peas, though.
[289] Like, just a bowl of green.
[290] But it was the most incredible taste.
[291] Like, yeah, but it looks weird.
[292] Yes, right, right, right.
[293] But, yeah, but they're, like, they're making things.
[294] Like, yeah, they're addressing as many senses as possible now.
[295] Yeah, like, it's everything.
[296] Bread looks good.
[297] Yeah, looks like something you want to eat.
[298] He's kind of a perfect crust in the outside with those little slices on the top of the circle of the bread.
[299] Like, look at it.
[300] See how he gets that?
[301] Yeah, I know.
[302] Come on, yeah.
[303] And you're like, oh, this.
[304] has to, we have to take care of this.
[305] Yes, it's art. It's art, too.
[306] It's like, it's a temporary art form.
[307] We just think of art as something like, you know, that Buddhist statue or something that just lasts forever.
[308] Yeah.
[309] But there's some art, like a sandcastle.
[310] It's just temporary.
[311] Well, you know, in a weird way, um, or, uh, in a weird way, music is kind of like that.
[312] If it's not recorded, right?
[313] Yeah, well, no. I mean, if it is recorded, because you only experience it temporarily, but it exists as a idea in your head, you know, like a, like a ghost image of it.
[314] But then when you listen, listen to it, when you press play and you listen to it, it's happening in real time.
[315] As soon as you stop it, it's no longer, it's no longer exists.
[316] So you're still just like in the kind of shadow memory of it.
[317] Right.
[318] If you're not interacting with it, it doesn't exist.
[319] Yeah.
[320] Wow.
[321] Yeah.
[322] Imagine if there was something like that you could do with smells, right?
[323] Because smells are the one sense that doesn't get any love.
[324] Like your eyes, People make all these beautiful things, right?
[325] Your ears, people make beautiful music.
[326] You got, like, perfume, cologne, and some fucking flowers.
[327] That's all you got.
[328] And weird shit, like, pachuli, where they're like, settle down.
[329] Settle down.
[330] Settle down what you wooden beads.
[331] Settle down.
[332] Settle down with your instinct.
[333] Those incense sticks.
[334] Amber, amber smells.
[335] By the way, Miss Pat, after she was on, she sent me incense.
[336] Did you send it to you, too?
[337] black pussy incense because she was talking about the podcast did she make one no she was just talking about crazy incense uh flavors yeah yeah yeah she she she's aware of oh wow she's saying she uses them or people use i mean the thing is you know that there's a niche market where people are making custom incense with names like that right like they legitimately are naming them that way because it's a hip thing yeah that's a very specific kind of person right if you're an incense person You have some kind of rug on the floor Like some kind of Persian type rug It's Miss Pat That's just he said Yeah So what is it Oh butt naked Hey Joe Rogan could have said you some of these One says butt naked What is the other ones Black love Yeah there you go Black butter Yeah Pusita Do you know Miss Pat?
[338] No Oh my God you gotta meet her She's a funny She's one of the funniest human beings On Earth For sure Damn One of the funniest people I've ever met Like right up there With Joey Diaz She's so funny She's ridiculous Like you leave a podcast with her And your fucking face hurts Someone said that if you get John Witherspoon Joey Diaz and Miss Pat on a podcast together We would like break the space time continuum Are you gonna do it?
[339] Fuck yeah I would love to do that But I would just I would shut my mouth I wouldn't say a word I would just want them to have fun Do you know John Witherspoon?
[340] I don't know Dude he came on with his son His son JD is a comic as well Yeah I met JD at the comedy store when we're talking about his dad, I'm like, your dad is, he's like an epic human being.
[341] Like, he's so fucking funny.
[342] And he's like, let me get my dad to come in and do the podcast.
[343] Like, yeah, let's do it.
[344] I would love to how you guys on.
[345] Let's, come on.
[346] So, uh, it might actually be my idea.
[347] I don't remember how it came out.
[348] But anyway, he comes in here.
[349] And it's like, the son is like completely normal.
[350] J .D .'s intelligent.
[351] He's funny.
[352] He's, like, very, very, like, you've, you know, you're not shocked by him.
[353] He's a funny, smart guy.
[354] Yeah.
[355] But his dad is.
[356] from another planet.
[357] Everything he says is funny.
[358] The way he says it is funny, he does not give a fuck.
[359] Oh, I know that kid.
[360] Yeah, dude.
[361] Yeah, I know that cat.
[362] Yeah.
[363] He's on, like, his own groove.
[364] He's on this, I don't give a fuck times a million groove.
[365] And he's been doing it a long time.
[366] Even his son's like laughing.
[367] Like, why he's like, see, this is what I grew up with him.
[368] Like, that is crazy.
[369] He's so funny.
[370] Like, that guy, you can make him funny in a movie.
[371] You know, you give him a good movie part.
[372] He'll do great in it.
[373] Yeah.
[374] But we'll never be able to compare it to him just being him in the moment.
[375] Because you lose that in the moment thing.
[376] Oh, shit.
[377] Well, you know, he doesn't have anything planned out.
[378] Yeah.
[379] He's not reading a fucking script.
[380] The guy just for three hours is just hilarious about anything, about shoes.
[381] He's hilarious about money.
[382] He's hilarious about his drink.
[383] He wants to put his money in his pocket and rub it.
[384] Like, it's, dude, he's...
[385] Yeah, he like can hit any angle.
[386] Anything is fair game.
[387] He's doing a kind of art, the art of being him.
[388] This is what me and his son we're talking about.
[389] And this is why it relates He's doing an art form But it seems like he's just being himself And he is But he's figured out how to be himself That is the most hilarious To the most people And it's a matter of whether or not You can plug that into a movie successfully Maybe The best thing about him Just let him talk Just let him talk Like fuck your Fuck your scripts Like this guy's got a thing You know, he's got a thing Yes That is what I'm talking about It's an art it's like it's just like cooking it's just like any like just like music there's an art to to being a person even yeah for sure yeah right like why are some girls sexier is it just biology or is there an art to the way they communicate with you like when people are being flirtatious and they're talking to each other there's an art to that yeah there's like a little bit of a dance going on there yes absolutely some people are better at it yeah i mean yeah i mean yeah i mean it It's a, you know, what gets your attention.
[390] I mean, there's so many factors.
[391] Right.
[392] It's like what, it's like also like what you tend to view, what's the first cue that generally will set you off, whatever that is, experience as you were a kid or, you know, someone, your aunt or whatever was, was really cool and your cousin was a really sexy.
[393] And those two, a combination of those two elements are like something that you hit.
[394] But I will say like, yeah, I think it's just someone who's, when they're comfortable with themselves, they just have a, it also depends on what you're looking for, too.
[395] Yep, yep.
[396] But because there's a co -resonance, there has to be...
[397] Just like art, just like music, like we're talking about.
[398] Like, do you like it or not?
[399] Right.
[400] Music to you, it might be the greatest song of all time.
[401] To Jamie, he's like, eh, I can take it or leave it.
[402] Yeah, yeah.
[403] And then you can have an argument about it, which is really sweet.
[404] But no one's ever right.
[405] The bottom line about that stuff is, if you love Motley Crew, you love Motley Crew.
[406] It's not, it's not anything wrong with Motley Crew.
[407] I'm glad to use that example.
[408] But if you're fucking at home by yourself going, girls, girls, girls, girls.
[409] If you're loving it, that, that's not.
[410] that's art like why we so judging i do that with white snake all the fucking time i i've told the story before but a dude sent me in a white snake cassette and uh i can't i used to it's in the office because uh i had a girlfriend that made me throw it away after i got in a car accident i had a white snake cassette in my car oh what why did she make it because she thought it was bad juju she's really into telling me what to do she was older than me okay and um she uh she's i was packing up all my stuff because my car was broken, you know, I got teaboned.
[411] And as I'm grabbing all my stuff, she's like, leave that.
[412] I go, leave what?
[413] She's like, leave the white snake.
[414] It's like, you got to get over that music.
[415] And I was like, really?
[416] She's like, yeah, it's terrible music.
[417] She was in like the pixies, that kind of shit.
[418] I don't even know the pixies existed back then.
[419] I loved them too, but I also loved white snake.
[420] There's a thing that people do, though, where they only like things that make them appear smart or interesting and it's like a hustle like you tell people you're really in Indian food and you really you might really be but there's also a thing you're doing like you're you're that person that's only into the cool stuff but like yeah that fucking white snake song is badass that here I go again yeah that's it's awesome they only had a few that were like really good that song is fucking banging to Is this love?
[421] That's a sexy video.
[422] Oh, that was good.
[423] The video is like one of my favorite videos.
[424] It's like the coolest, even though it was 80s and it was like hyper 80s, it's one of the few videos to me in my mind that is that had a style that was that kind of approaches timeless.
[425] Really?
[426] Yeah, in a way.
[427] How good is this sweet?
[428] The sincerity of it.
[429] I mean, that video is sexy with Tani Ketain and and like her moving like around the best.
[430] or whatever it was it was like sexy was very adult kind of like let's watch it shit I mean but she looks amazing and and I love him just leaning on the wall like that I mean it's like come on this it's a brick wall like he's like Mr. cool guy it's it's done in such a sincere way but it's just on the right side of me still thinking that it's fucking great it's great art direction it's promoting ridiculous interactions.
[431] This is promoting a ridiculous relationship.
[432] Just fucking talk.
[433] What is all this drama?
[434] I mean, that shit?
[435] Look at those shots.
[436] His hair, it's amazing.
[437] His hair is wonderful.
[438] I mean, he's very serious about what he's singing.
[439] He's like a better looking Luke from General Hospital.
[440] Remember when Luke and Laura?
[441] That's what that guy is.
[442] It's like a better looking Luke.
[443] That's so hilarious.
[444] His hair is preposterous.
[445] I know.
[446] Everybody's hair is just like off the charts.
[447] I mean, imagine if you had a friend that just had hair like that.
[448] Like, hey, let's go, let's go hit the gym.
[449] He's like, hey, man, you want to go, go.
[450] He's got, like, get some.
[451] A gallon of hair spraying that shit.
[452] I mean, primped out.
[453] That's just, I mean, back then, that's, that's crazy to me. That's white hair, bro.
[454] Yeah.
[455] You have the solution to that.
[456] Yeah.
[457] Yeah.
[458] Your hair, you just, it's fantastic.
[459] You don't have to do anything.
[460] Yeah, exactly.
[461] Yeah, yeah.
[462] Yeah, it's a totally lazy.
[463] It's chaos.
[464] It's lazy.
[465] Yeah, it's chaos, but at the same time, like, ah, you know.
[466] Right, but there's no work involved in that.
[467] chaos.
[468] It's a beautiful chaos.
[469] Oh, I see.
[470] You know what I'm saying?
[471] As opposed to like, you know, you've got one of them picks and you're spraying picks and you get his hair that big.
[472] Oh, I know.
[473] There's a lot of work involved there.
[474] That's a shit ton of hair spray.
[475] There's a lady off set.
[476] It's just to keep putting up.
[477] Yeah.
[478] Constantly checking symmetry.
[479] Here I go again on my own.
[480] Do, do, do, jean.
[481] I mean, the guitar, the band, like, White Snake, the band.
[482] It was like, it was the super group of hard rock.
[483] Like, like, it, or metal, I guess you can kind of, it kind of bleeds into that, like, classic metal.
[484] There's been a few of those supergroups.
[485] This one freaked me out, man. I'm like, get off the car!
[486] What are you doing to the car, lady?
[487] It's like, she just doesn't care, man. She's rude.
[488] She's doing cartwheels on the car.
[489] Look how sincere is that.
[490] That's what I mean, man. He's really serious about what he's singing about.
[491] Yeah, look.
[492] And he's got three synth players in a row, by the way.
[493] Yeah.
[494] Look at that.
[495] Yeah.
[496] What is that about?
[497] I mean, that's kind of hardcore.
[498] I wish we could play this.
[499] It's so wonderful.
[500] I do love the idea.
[501] I mean, the hair color combination in the car.
[502] I mean, you know what this is?
[503] This is what happened when the war on drugs had a brief victory.
[504] Oh, I thought you're talking about the band for a second.
[505] I'm like, I am.
[506] You are talking about the times.
[507] The 80s, the times.
[508] What happened here, the difference between Jimmy Hendricks and this is the absence of drugs.
[509] Like, this is music created on the match.
[510] Well, this is Coke music.
[511] This is definitely...
[512] Maybe a little Coke every now and then, but it's not created by Coke.
[513] Yeah, but it's like high -end party vibe.
[514] You know, like these guys are living like the high -end party shit.
[515] Sure, I guess.
[516] I guess that's where they're coming from.
[517] But, I mean, to me, that's why like, you know, someone described the NS10s, the classic stage monitor.
[518] Or sorry, studio monitors, like when you're switching between different types of speakers.
[519] Can you show me what that looks like?
[520] Yeah, yeah.
[521] See, right now you and Jamie.
[522] me on the same frequency he's an audio guy oh yeah yeah well they're like a they're like this classic mixing and like the like a tone and like they're just like speaker systems that have kind of become standards to a certain degree yeah and so and the weird thing about NS10s it's like in the 80s when they were using them i believe that's the right name for it but uh when in the 80s when they were using them it was really it had so much harsh high end it was so crispy sounding and they said it was because of uh yeah um it's because of a Coke usage.
[523] What?
[524] And Coke usage, like, creates, basically, brains tend to favor different sound frequencies under the influence of different drugs.
[525] And with Coke, they like that high -end, crispy sizzle that was, like, hitting all the time, and that was all amplified.
[526] So then when you hear 80s music, it tends to be, it's mixed, not all of it, but a great deal of it.
[527] It's mixed with a lot of, like, upper mid -troubledness to a crispiness.
[528] That's kind of a...
[529] That totally makes sense.
[530] That's why, you know, sometimes albums need to be remastered because of that.
[531] Wow.
[532] But that speaker is responsible.
[533] That's what I, this is what I heard.
[534] So this is a secondhand information.
[535] But yeah, but you're a musician.
[536] That makes sense to you, right?
[537] It does totally make sense to me. I mean, it's one of those subtleties that you may never think about, but then when you hear about it and you learn about it, it blows open a whole new way of thinking about things.
[538] Well, I don't know this, but that's what everybody's always said about the dead and LSD.
[539] Exactly.
[540] Yeah, that if you, like the people that don't get the dead, and I'm guilty of being one of those people.
[541] Yeah, I'm not a huge fan, but I respect them.
[542] It's because you haven't listened on LSD.
[543] Apparently, according to people that I know, you listen to the dead on LSD, and you're like, oh, my God, I get it.
[544] Oh, I see.
[545] I see.
[546] Interesting.
[547] It's LSD music.
[548] Yeah, totally.
[549] My cousin used to follow them around.
[550] Really?
[551] She followed them around for, God, I want to say a couple years where she was on tour.
[552] would sell like bacon and eggs out of the car she was a total hippie like a real super legit hippie that's kind of sick but um that's rare so i got to talk to her about like the culture it's like everyone's on acid they're all doing so many of them are doing acid mushrooms i want to say every one of them but it's like it's probably half yeah it's crazy for a concert imagine going to a concert and half the people are doing mushrooms like 100 % 100 % of time half the people i don't know if i'm that Those are some pros, man. If you're yelling at me right now going, it's not half, you don't know the number.
[553] I'm sorry.
[554] I'm just guessing.
[555] I think it's a psychedelic -inspired music that once you're under that psychedelic, apparently it makes sense.
[556] And this is not me talking from personal experience.
[557] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[558] I mean, it could be one of those things where, you know, there's like a photo that's slightly out of focus.
[559] And then if you, like, bring in another, or now, better yet, like a code.
[560] It's like you get a picture of something and you're like, I don't can't tell what it is, it's abstract.
[561] and then you put this other layer on it and it completes it, and you're like, oh, that's what it is.
[562] In a way, like, I can imagine that being true, but I can also say, once you've experienced music that really ignites your imagination, if you hear music that sounds amazing on LSD, it should also sound amazing to you, personally, not on it.
[563] How you can tell that it would be even more amazing if you were on LSD, but it already sounds great.
[564] Right.
[565] It's like, to me, quality is like it exists in all states.
[566] So like it's just, uh, anyways, that's kind of how I look at it.
[567] It's an interesting perspective, but you would think definitely that people see things differently when they're under the influence of certain things.
[568] Absolutely.
[569] You don't think there could be like a tipping point.
[570] Oh, I think you're right.
[571] No. And to your point, yes.
[572] I do think that there is music where you're like, I don't know, man. And then you listen to it on mushrooms or whatever.
[573] and you're like, oh, fuck, this is dope.
[574] I remember the first time I listened to a whole lot of love when I was high.
[575] Yeah.
[576] And you know that period?
[577] There's a period in the middle of the song where it's all just thimbles and fuck music.
[578] It's like, ah, ah, ah, ah.
[579] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[580] And then it comes that, ta -ta -ta -ta -ta -da -da -da -da -da -da -da -da -da -da -da -da -da.
[581] Yes.
[582] God damn, I love that song.
[583] But when you listen that song, hi, you're like, these guys were wild.
[584] Oh, yeah.
[585] I mean, this is the 1970s, right?
[586] And these guys made a song where it started off great.
[587] And then for a minute and a half, it was just moans and fuck sounds.
[588] Shake for me, baby.
[589] I want to be your backdoor man. Hey, ho.
[590] What?
[591] I was looking up this LSD, the Grateful Dead thing.
[592] So their sound engineer who went under the name Bear, which if you know anything about the Grateful Dead, they used the Bears.
[593] he was one of the only scientists when LSD was outlawed that could still make it Wow That was his sound guy?
[594] Oh Jesus Christ He made over 5 million doses between 65 and 67 it says Whoa They had their own personal guy And he was the one that making the sound so If that guy's still alive They'll put him in jail for the rest Yeah so they were strictly formatted for LSD Yeah right here says he died a car Oh In Australia That's probably on the wrong side of the road because he was on acid.
[595] That's quite possible.
[596] Don't get mad.
[597] He what the fuck?
[598] He's my hero.
[599] I just crack in a joke.
[600] But that's amazing.
[601] So they had their own built -in chemist.
[602] God, that must have been a good time.
[603] That's so cool.
[604] I love that because that's responsible.
[605] I think that that's the responsible thing to do.
[606] To just know your own chemist.
[607] That way you're not buying any nonsense.
[608] Yeah.
[609] You're getting it from a guy who's a chemist.
[610] Yeah.
[611] This is your person that personally makes this stuff for you.
[612] You know where it comes from.
[613] just a matter how many people got busted at those concerts did feds or the DEA ever cracked down those concerts when I worked you worked you said you worked security at like a amphithe year yeah I did two for a summer and one of the concerts we did was for Phil Lest she's the bass player of the Grateful Dead and my job for that day was to walk around the parking lot and they would just yell me and my buddy were 19 years old six up six up they thought we were going to arrest everyone and they would try to give us the goo balls which have a bunch of drugs in them already to sort of dose us so that we'd leave everybody alone.
[614] What's a goo ball?
[615] It's like a popcorn ball, but from what I was told, I've never had one.
[616] A bunch of psychedelics and all sorts of shit.
[617] Oh, the psychedelics in it?
[618] Yeah, it's just like a thing you would eat.
[619] Oh, Jesus.
[620] Oh, I've never heard of it.
[621] You didn't know what you were eating?
[622] Yeah, you just took a chance.
[623] They're just like, this gets you high.
[624] Imagine the first, the first guy to stumble on mushrooms.
[625] I was like, what the fuck?
[626] Like, mushrooms had to have been like re -learned at some point in time.
[627] They had to be some people that lived in an environment where there was no mushrooms where people didn't get them.
[628] And then someone found them somewhere, but they didn't have any personal knowledge of what it was and tried it and ate it and tripped.
[629] That had to have happened.
[630] Yeah.
[631] I mean, I think, you know, it could also be like, hey, I'm foraging for blah, blah, blahs.
[632] And because arguably they would say mushrooms were around like way, way, way.
[633] Some people, you know, not so scientific, perhaps, I don't know, or maybe scientific have surmised that maybe consciousness or self -awareness came from the, our species running into some kind of a psychedelic event, which caused like this hyper self -awareness loop or whatever.
[634] You know why that one deserves a lot of attention?
[635] Because people are so resistant to it.
[636] Like really rational, intelligent people are so resistant to it.
[637] And it's almost...
[638] To resistant to what?
[639] To that concept.
[640] Oh, yes.
[641] The concept that maybe our consciousness was somehow influenced by a psychedelic.
[642] But to a man, almost to a man, all the...
[643] I shouldn't say that even.
[644] I'm over generalizing, but many of those people have not had psychedelic experiences that dismiss them so readily.
[645] That's true.
[646] The people that have had psychedelic experiences that tend to be skeptical or more rational, they wouldn't, they're not going to have a definitive position on it.
[647] They're going to go, well, hmm.
[648] Yeah, right.
[649] It's something to consider.
[650] It's more measured.
[651] Yeah.
[652] But then there's the hardliners, you know, there's a hardliners on both sides.
[653] The hardliners who definitely believe that happened and the hardliners who believe that they don't have any positive effects whatsoever.
[654] Yeah.
[655] Yeah, totally.
[656] They're both almost equally foolish.
[657] exactly yeah yeah I mean that's that's what we're experiencing right now but at least the people that have experienced it they know what they're talking about the people that haven't experienced it and don't think it's worth trying like all right right like how do you know yeah I know all these people are saying that it's amazing and then it might be this literally the source of religion itself and so many people when they've had it they have these complete life changes where they just rethink things and want to be kinder to people and nicer to people and want to just have more of a sense of community yeah and then you're just people dismiss that but yet they'll take yoga seriously and meditation seriously and they'll go to a therapist all the time and maybe they'll even get on antidepressants maybe they'll get a little bit of Xanax and I'm having a little anxiety issues reggie Watson and then they're scared of mushrooms it's weird very interesting yeah I mean I get it I get it and I don't know oh I get it but it's a flaw yeah it is a flaw I mean it just I guess if your job is to take in as many angles as possible to a problem or a situation or a concern or whatever weigh all of the things about all of it and then come up with a solution based off of that.
[658] And this isn't even encouraging anyone to do it, but this is just saying to dismiss it as being not important when you've never done it is nonsense.
[659] Yeah.
[660] That's all I'm saying.
[661] That's all I'm saying.
[662] It's like I'm not saying you should do it.
[663] I know a lot of people that birth to grave have done no psychedelics, and they're great.
[664] And they're wonderful people and they have a great life.
[665] And they had a wonderful experience.
[666] It's not a prerequisite.
[667] It's not a necessary thing.
[668] No. I agree with that.
[669] I haven't had it.
[670] You might want to shut the fuck up.
[671] Yeah.
[672] If you're speaking on the issue of it.
[673] Of course.
[674] Are you kidding?
[675] Shut the fuck up.
[676] I was like, well, the research shows like, oh, you're going to let the research show you what the experience is.
[677] Let me tell you about the research.
[678] Five dried grams in silent darkness, as Terrence McCrano would describe and prescribe.
[679] Yeah, do that.
[680] Oh, my gosh.
[681] Do that.
[682] And then we'll talk.
[683] Yeah.
[684] You know, just have one quick DMT trip and then we'll talk.
[685] Because there's no way that I think it would be difficult.
[686] I'm sure there's someone who has.
[687] done psychedelics and has and still says no sure yeah yeah yeah but I would say that most people they would understand at least maybe they didn't have a great time but they would at least understand the power of that experience I think some people have the burden of intelligence and what I mean by that is that they're really smart and they see a lot of people around them that are silly and they experience that so often that they get weary and they get, you know, they sort of get rigid in their belief that their opinions are correct because they dismiss most of the people that are around them.
[688] Because you're around a bunch of dummies.
[689] If you're really smart guy or a smart girl, it's hard.
[690] It's hard to maintain a good perception of what things are and what things aren't when you're the smartest person in the room.
[691] You kind of never want to be the smartest person in the room.
[692] Yeah.
[693] And also, yes, and also believing that you are in a way, excludes you.
[694] you from including other people who are also smarter than everybody in the room.
[695] Well, it's not even, maybe not even smarter, which is saying, but I know what you're saying.
[696] They're not limited by an ideology.
[697] Their perspective isn't dimmed.
[698] Right.
[699] They see things clearly, which is, I think, one of the most underrated forms of intelligence.
[700] Like, there's all this intelligence in solving mathematical problems.
[701] Yeah, right.
[702] Social intelligence.
[703] But there's a bunch of different kinds of intelligence.
[704] Absolutely.
[705] Being able to see through the bullshit is, is an intelligence.
[706] And some people just don't have it.
[707] Yeah.
[708] No. Oh, absolutely.
[709] And I think that, you know, at the same time, wanting to help someone see that angle is also an important thing.
[710] So if you're like, if you're someone who's like, oh, shit, like, let's say it's this, maybe you're trained in tactical awareness and you just have a different way of being in a room where you sit, what you think about, all that stuff.
[711] And the situation arises where, like, potentially something dangerous could happen or whatever, then being able to explain.
[712] that idea and that type of awareness so that someone can see that is also possible.
[713] Like sharing it, they may not get it to the extent that you do, but they at least, you've included it in their viewpoint.
[714] Yeah.
[715] Yeah, maybe.
[716] Well, people that are soldiers, they do have a weird way of men are in the room.
[717] It's interesting.
[718] My friend Andy Stumpf, he's always sneaking up on me. He says, you've got no situational awareness.
[719] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[720] I'm like, we're in a crowd.
[721] Like, what am I supposed to do?
[722] Just constantly on 360 looking for danger?
[723] That's so crazy.
[724] I mean, yeah, that's what he's saying.
[725] Yeah, it is what he's saying.
[726] That is what he's saying.
[727] But that's because he's a seal, you know.
[728] Yeah.
[729] How they look at, they look at things a whole lot different.
[730] That's how you stay alive.
[731] Exactly.
[732] Yeah.
[733] I think one of the things is super important for people to recognize and helps them open their mind up to other opinions is that even if they favor themselves very highly, that competitive thing of comparing your intellect and your reason to other people, it's very limiting.
[734] instead of worrying about yourself if you're smart just be smart but just appreciate other intelligences if it just get into talking to them that's my thoughts on it instead of being competitive with them get into trying to find out how they work because there's a lot of different humans on this planet and we have this egocentric position almost everybody does that they're at least better at one thing than other people are or they know some more about one thing than other people do and it's a weird competitive thing that people get involved in it's stupid it like you should recognize that it's awesome to have cool people around you that are like really smart and interested in weird shit and intelligent and inspiring and that you almost envy their their creativity those are massively important people to have in your life but when people get they feel weird about comparing themselves to the other person because they come up unfavorably insecurity exactly that's where i see that with a lot of guys guys puff up chest and start you know comparing like how much their houses cost like like literally doing stuff that you're like oh we're still doing this like to to my mind I'm like oh shit you guys aren't aware of it like a way that I but anyways yeah that kind of thing yeah you guys are doing some 1990 shit here yeah because it's like I know because like either they're like doing an act yeah you know which I'm always hoping I'm always hoping that's why there's disbelief when it really is what it is.
[735] I'm like, oh, shit.
[736] Oh, that's, that's for real.
[737] That's actually the thing.
[738] It's weird, right?
[739] Yeah, it is a little, it's a little weird.
[740] I mean, some people have a lack of cool people around them, too.
[741] That's a real problem.
[742] You get stuck in a shit.
[743] It's like a good tomato plant is not going to grow in the fucking Sonora Desert, all right?
[744] There's no nutrients there.
[745] It's too bright.
[746] It's the sun's too hot.
[747] It's not the right climate.
[748] Yeah.
[749] Right?
[750] Yes.
[751] If you're stuck in some fucking shit whole city and it's, just your whole neighborhood's filled with dummies and there's no prospects and there's fucking lead in the water you have flint michigan water you're drinking they still haven't fixed that no people have to drink bottled water in flint michigan yeah in 2019 yeah like how how do they not have how did they let that ever get to that point like at all the things you need well what do we need to stay alive number one water okay let's ignore that let's ignore that and uh work on the traffic lights that have cameras on them to bust you so we can get more revenue.
[752] Let's make sure we hire parking tent.
[753] What about the water?
[754] We can get to that.
[755] We'll get to that water.
[756] Yeah.
[757] Well, it's my new phrase for, you know, our situation, because capitalism.
[758] Because the current version of capitalism.
[759] Is it capitalism?
[760] I don't even, I don't know enough about economics.
[761] I mean, it's not really, it's more just like a philosophical idea.
[762] Can you have capitalism with regulation?
[763] so that you make sure that there's no pollution, you make sure that people don't get away with environmental disasters.
[764] Of course.
[765] And aren't we also going on the fucking momentum of decisions that were made a long time ago?
[766] Like a lot of this stuff, like a lot of these mines that pollute everywhere, pollute environments, wherever they are.
[767] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[768] They kind of made those when environmental laws were different, right?
[769] Yeah, for sure.
[770] I mean, environmentalism was, it wasn't really a thing until like the mid, 1900s I guess so like like Roosevelt like was like a huge like environmental groovy dude but the idea of preserving swaths of land and like considering the environment when growing an economy simultaneously yeah like that just that just stopped like there's like some national parks stuff and maybe some things passed with ozone some lead stuff some mercury stuff you know kind of common sense really hardcore shit That should definitely, like no brainers.
[771] Those have been done.
[772] But anything else making sure that that balance is there as the economy grows just doesn't exist.
[773] It's just the way capitalism is right now.
[774] It's like it doesn't, that's not considered a value.
[775] There's the more, in fact, the more scarce it becomes, the higher in value it is.
[776] So it's in its own best interest to continue to grow and grow and grow until it can't grow anymore.
[777] Jesus.
[778] It's freak me out, man. So that's why decision.
[779] like that are made in my in my mind well decisions that impact the wilderness and impact in the environment like did you ever see that movie gasland no great documentary on fracking oh wow really crazy um what is the director's name josh fox brolin no are you sure it's a different guy bro no there's no way no it's a different guy um but it's an amazing documentary and Josh Fox Josh Fox I did I got it Josh Fox um it's really good really really good documentary Who is Josh Fox?
[780] He's a guy who made the film yeah Okay he and he was inspired by a personal experience with uh wasn't it do you remember the actual story Jamie it's like personal experience with some pollutants or something like that in the river but got into anyway made this amazing documentary and watching people dismiss some of the stuff in the documentary was so so so so surreal.
[781] Oh yeah.
[782] They were lighting their tap water on fire.
[783] And I don't know if you saw that.
[784] I did see that.
[785] And that's crazy.
[786] People literally were saying you could do that before the fracking.
[787] That's not, it's not because of the fracking.
[788] Wow.
[789] People were saying that.
[790] Like, okay, let's assume that's true.
[791] Let's just get crazy and assume that's true.
[792] Their fucking water is on fire.
[793] That's the last shit that should be on fire is the shit they used to put out fire.
[794] If your goddamn water's on fire, do you know how much shit has to be in your water for it to be on fire.
[795] Okay, what's going on here?
[796] And why are you so sure that this didn't come from fracking?
[797] And that you could always light your water on fire and now you're telling us?
[798] You didn't make videos about this before?
[799] Before there was a fracking thing?
[800] Yeah, show me a video.
[801] Let me see.
[802] Are you sure?
[803] That would be interesting.
[804] Are you really sure that there's, have you tested the water?
[805] You're a fucking scientist.
[806] You're sitting over there with a lab coat and a fucking check sheet.
[807] Making sure that the, the toxin levels are exactly the same before and after fracking?
[808] No, you're not.
[809] But why are you so interested?
[810] There's a thing that people do where they're like really interested in the interests of big business and they want like they guess and regular people who don't even have a financial stake in that business will make up excuses for the business I know it's crazy yeah what is that it's fear it's just fear of losing jobs like people like losing jobs or losing the thing that keeps their their bills paid it's also like that no nonsense right wing mindset there's like a no nonsense right wing mindset all these fucking tree hungers, goddamn tree huggers trying to stop us from making a good living.
[811] You want those people to be poor?
[812] You want those people to, you ever see the look on a poor coal miner's face?
[813] Yeah.
[814] You know what I mean?
[815] There's that thing that they do.
[816] Yes.
[817] No nonsense.
[818] So they want to go with anything that's like good for the economy, but bad for the environment.
[819] Exactly.
[820] Because you never find.
[821] You have to factor in the other, the additional cost, how much is going to cost to fix what you did?
[822] And if you ever can fix what you did, and if you can't fix what you did to the environment, how much should that cost?
[823] because if you could like if you decide like hey I'm going to pull copper out of this fucking hole in the ground but it might kill a million salmon like you imagine how much a million salmon would be worth you're going to kill a whole population of salmon how much is that worth like you ruin fishing for all the people that want to come to this one salmon river yeah you kill a million fish like how much is that worth that's that should be worth a billion dollars yeah you should get fined a billion dollars if not more yeah that's what I'm that's what I'm saying that's that's that's that's that's what that value that it has no value well the thing is it's also it's ours like I know poisoning is our stuff I know that's what I mean it's like the earth that's just the worst because it's like it does not it's just a not it's not a part of the equation for growing the economy that's like and I know there's going to be people listening that are like just know about this shit hardcore I'm just approaching it from like an over kind of philosophical energetic viewpoint right right right we're being hippies yeah we're being like kind of I don't know what the fuck we're saying we're stones are we're stones are So, have you ever seen some of the image of the mining that they do, the images of the mining they do in northern Canada, like northern Alberta?
[824] No. Dude.
[825] It's like some hellscape shit.
[826] It's crazy.
[827] Like, there's a giant industry of oil mining up there and there all kinds of mining.
[828] Yeah.
[829] In northern Canada, a lot of folks that go up there and they do shifts.
[830] But, I mean, you're talking unbelievably, brutally, ruthlessly cold.
[831] Wow.
[832] Occasionally people get jacked by bears.
[833] like really they're living they're living with monsters just outside the gates on some fucking night's watch type deal where they're trying to suck oil out of the ground and I mean there's so much of it up there and it's such a big part of the economy that you have these giant like aerial views of these these places that are just fuxville wow man there's there's one of them the one I saw was much more horrific because it involved a lake so what does it say photos fame photographer Alex McLean's new photo of Canada's oil sands are shocking.
[834] I mean, it's creepy.
[835] I mean, but there was nothing there anyway.
[836] The idea is like, hey, if it's just flat like that or it's ugly because we have holes in and oils coming out of the holes, who gives a shit?
[837] No one's up here.
[838] Right.
[839] Look, I get it.
[840] I get that mindset.
[841] We got jobs.
[842] Everyone has jobs.
[843] And it's true.
[844] It's a great job to have.
[845] They make a lot of money.
[846] You meet those dudes that come to a lot of shows when you do in Canada.
[847] Yeah.
[848] They have a name for them, like really rich oil worker.
[849] Yeah.
[850] Yeah.
[851] It's real, it's real, real rich oil worker fellows.
[852] Yeah, that's, that's the nickname.
[853] They're drilling these giant, that's one that I saw.
[854] That's, you see the water all fucked up.
[855] It's all filled with oil and shit.
[856] Oh, my lords.
[857] Yeah.
[858] That's a, that's a water, man. Look at that.
[859] The water's fucked.
[860] Yeah, it's, it's funny.
[861] All of the, all of the issues that all of the imbalances are completely solvable.
[862] There's like, there is no deficit.
[863] We don't have a deficit.
[864] it in what it would take to just make good decisions that make life really nice for most people on the planet.
[865] I think a lot of managing has to be done because there's a lot of stuff that has unintended consequences and moving pieces affect all the moving pieces around them.
[866] Of course.
[867] I think that's one of the things that people are really bad at predicting.
[868] That's why I was saying like, you know, how much is it worth to be able to get copper out of a hole in the ground if it's going to poison a river and kill a bunch of things.
[869] how much is that worth yeah you know it's like these people have this sense that like you make one decision it only affects that thing but it doesn't affects a lot of things that are connected to that thing yeah it also affects the way people feel if you do something shitty like kill a million fish people get bummed out like that's real it affects the way they interact with other people yeah you know when you read something really fucked up on the news you're like god damn it until you leave your house like that you leave your house like god damn it Yeah.
[870] Two people that have that, God damn it, and then they get upset at each other for something that wouldn't before.
[871] Yeah.
[872] Because they're just thinking there's a bunch of pedophiles out there and a bunch of monsters and a bunch of murderers and a bunch of people pouring oil into the ocean.
[873] Yeah.
[874] It's a bummer.
[875] It changes.
[876] When people do fucked up things, it changes how we feel about people.
[877] 100%.
[878] And I don't know.
[879] I get, uh, I don't know.
[880] It's, I try to get that to get overwhelmed by those things.
[881] But, you know, it's like really the best thing, at least in my life that I try to do is make friends with as many technologists and designers and people of that ilk to be able to at least be a part of the conversation because they're at the they're like at the head of the wave like there's there's nothing really in front of them they're just on that like you know whatever bleeding edge or whatever but it's just like that the place where chaos is being ordered and like the decisions are being made which waves were going to do that and if you can have good conversations with people like that you can kind of I believe You can kind of help steer things, at least technologically, to allocate funds to different portions of technology that should be more prioritized than they are.
[882] Like just figuring out things like accumulating water out of the air.
[883] More of that should be used or reducing carbon emissions, all the various things you can do for that.
[884] You know, try to close that gap between the ultra, ultra, ultra, ultra, ultra rich and the, and the, poor.
[885] It's like everyone can still be super happy.
[886] If everyone, if everyone had access to be able to level up to a point that's ridiculous, that can still happen, but not at the levels that they are.
[887] But isn't that interesting that instinct, that people have to resist that idea, that poor people shouldn't be somehow or another, we should engineer a way to have less poor people, that we should consider it as a problem.
[888] But people get really resistant to that, right?
[889] You start thinking, oh, no, no, what do you want to do?
[890] You want to take my fucking money and give it to someone else, no. Yes.
[891] Yeah.
[892] Taking my money.
[893] fucking socialist take my money yeah it's like well he didn't work for it so he didn't find the right way to work inside of the system so he's a failure I'm sorry I don't think they're right I don't think they're wrong about the whole concept of not giving people money doesn't solve a problem no it doesn't solve a problem but recognizing that it's a problem and engineering it so that we have a a better society where more people are doing good that's great for everybody totally it's great for the economy it's a weird caste system thing or people who are really poor.
[894] You almost want them to stay really poor.
[895] Yeah.
[896] You don't want to...
[897] I don't get it.
[898] Yeah, it's a weird thing.
[899] I don't get it.
[900] I'm like, because I feel uncomfortable.
[901] If I'm in a room of people and I feel like someone's being kind of just looked over consistently, that's the person I'm going to engage with the most.
[902] Well, you're a great guy.
[903] That's awesome.
[904] But you are.
[905] I mean, that's a good way of looking at it.
[906] I mean, because it's, it also, it's just like, kind of, thanks, but it's also just a practical thing, right?
[907] I mean, if you're sensitive to this, if that's part of your value, you're, you're, if that's part of your value.
[908] system is to feel like, you know, not everybody should be doing this or this or that or that, but everybody's entitled to be recognized and respected for that.
[909] And so that's kind of a cool place to operate from.
[910] But I guess when I'm relating to economically, yeah, if more people are doing well, then you have a very productive society.
[911] Right.
[912] So there are no drags on it.
[913] Like, there's a lot dragging this, this economy.
[914] Sure.
[915] It's just like, yeah, crime and poverty.
[916] It's getting gummed up.
[917] Drug addicts.
[918] Yeah.
[919] And a lot of drug addicts comfort.
[920] from abuse.
[921] A lot of abuse comes from poverty.
[922] There's a lot of those factors that play in there that make us a weaker country.
[923] That's how I tell you, like, if you're really patriotic, you'd want to fix all of the impoverished neighborhoods.
[924] Yes.
[925] If we're a team, the team is stronger when there's less losers, right?
[926] When people are not losing in life.
[927] Well, people are losing because they're stuck in a spot where they can almost never get out.
[928] By the time they're 18, they've already been in jail twice, and they're kind of programmed by their environment to be hostile because the world around you is harsh and nasty.
[929] and doesn't give a fuck about you, well, you have to adapt to survive.
[930] I mean, that's how people are able to kill people in war.
[931] People have a remarkable ability to adapt.
[932] Yes.
[933] But the idea that they should be able to figure that out when you didn't have...
[934] That's crazy.
[935] That's crazy.
[936] It's such a bad hand.
[937] Yeah.
[938] They have the worst hand of cards ever.
[939] Yeah.
[940] And they're us.
[941] We're all on the team.
[942] Like, if you really say you're American, I'm American, man. I don't fucking support this country.
[943] Well, this country's everybody, man. Yeah.
[944] I agree.
[945] Everybody.
[946] Forget, let's leave, just for convenience sake, let's leave out illegals.
[947] Yep.
[948] And only say the poor people that were born here that are registered United States citizens, we got work to do.
[949] Oh, yeah.
[950] We got work to do.
[951] It's, it's just insane to me. I mean, I see it and I'm like, oh, fuck, man, that shouldn't be a thing.
[952] No. But I see why.
[953] You know, it's like you're talking about there's this weird biological human instinct to create a tiered system of society because that's the way you control society.
[954] is like creating a transmission.
[955] It looks like a social transmission.
[956] And like that is a weird.
[957] That's an interesting way of looking at it.
[958] Yeah, because it's like that way you can manipulate.
[959] You can like switch gears and you can play off of one another.
[960] And, you know, and I think like some conspiracy thinking shit right there, bro.
[961] You just went deep.
[962] Plagging them off against each other.
[963] I'm like, is he right?
[964] Is he right or is it convenient?
[965] Is it just convenient that people want to keep, it's crabs in a bucket, you know, that expression.
[966] that crabs never get out of the bucket because the other crabs grab them and drag them down.
[967] Yeah, yeah, it's true.
[968] I mean, it's predicting human behavior to a certain extent.
[969] A lot of the leftover monkey stuff.
[970] Yeah, man. It's the, it's not, it's just still here.
[971] Yeah, it's still here.
[972] And it's fucking shit up.
[973] Well, we also needed it just a hundred years ago.
[974] Totally.
[975] Yeah.
[976] People were doing duels when they were, the president was doing duels just a couple hundred years ago.
[977] Yeah, you're right.
[978] That shit is so recent.
[979] You're right.
[980] Barbaric shit.
[981] man shooting each other with little mini muskets in the fucking street the front of everybody and you were the president is that true was there a president that's gotten a duel that is true right i think you're right we looked it up as andrew jackson gotten like over a hundred duels i think but that like what the duels weren't like that dual type it was really just like a challenge to see if you would show up really and then like oh it was like just a formality yeah it wasn't really like someone died didn't shoot anybody he did but i think one like one person oh oh because usually they have a crazy story about it they don't aim at each other that's what that's a that's a That's why I heard that there was like, you kind of like aim near them.
[982] Really?
[983] Something like that.
[984] Yeah, and that was a way to concede.
[985] In one duel, he got shot, I think in the chest, but he was such a badass.
[986] He stayed.
[987] He, like, put his hand over it and held it because his gun jammed when he was supposed to fire, so the other guy got him.
[988] And then he fixed his gun, shot the guy in the head, and that guy ended up dying.
[989] I'm pretty sure that's how that's the one guy he killed.
[990] Township.
[991] But you have a real motivation to kill a guy when he shoots in the chest.
[992] That shit.
[993] Yeah, you're like, eliminate threat now.
[994] This becomes real.
[995] And the guy just has to stand there.
[996] He can't even run away.
[997] How goofy is that?
[998] You have to stand there and let a dude shoot you.
[999] That's part of the deal, right?
[1000] I don't, yeah, yeah.
[1001] I don't think you can turn around and go, oh my God, help.
[1002] You can't be like, I win, bitch, and just run.
[1003] I'm out of here.
[1004] You have to kind of stand there.
[1005] There's a guy named Charles Dickinson, not the rider, but a horse, a rival horse breeder.
[1006] And here's the account of their goal.
[1007] Oh, my God.
[1008] Okay, here it goes.
[1009] On May 30th, 1806, Jackson and Dickinson, met at Harrison's Mills on the Red River in Logan, Kentucky.
[1010] At the first signal from their seconds, Dickinson fired.
[1011] Jackson received Dickinson's first bullet in the chest next to his heart.
[1012] Jackson put his hand over the wound to staunch the flow of blood and stayed standing long enough to fire his gun.
[1013] Dickinson's seconds claimed that Jackson's first shot misfired, which would have meant that the duel was over.
[1014] But in a breach of etiquette, Jackson recocked the gun and shot again, this time killing his opponent.
[1015] Although Jackson recovered, he suffered chronic pain from the wound for the remainder of his life.
[1016] Oh, damn.
[1017] Jackson was not prosecuted for murder, and the duel had very little effect on a successful campaign for the presidency in 1829.
[1018] Many American men in the early 1800s, particularly in the South, viewed dueling as a time -honored tradition.
[1019] Wow.
[1020] Dude, that was just a couple hundred years ago.
[1021] We were barbarians.
[1022] They're like, well, sometimes you just got to do it.
[1023] That is a time -honored tradition.
[1024] 200 years ago, people were so goddamn crazy that you could shoot someone in the fucking face in a duel, a street fight, and then run for president and win.
[1025] Yeah, it's consensual.
[1026] I mean, there are versions of that now.
[1027] That's amazing.
[1028] But, yeah.
[1029] His divorce raised more of a scandal than him killing that guy.
[1030] Wow.
[1031] How is that possible?
[1032] Wow.
[1033] I mean, again, priorities.
[1034] Different societies.
[1035] Yeah, what was gossip like back then?
[1036] Like, gossip magazines and have, like, hand -printed newspaper with gossip in it that they would hand out?
[1037] Yeah.
[1038] Why would his divorce become a big deal?
[1039] Aren't they at the printing press back then, right?
[1040] Oh, yeah, for sure.
[1041] Yeah, they had the printing press.
[1042] The United States got it there as an 1856.
[1043] Like everyone had to buy into it.
[1044] People are so goofy.
[1045] Just a couple hundred years ago, they were so goofy.
[1046] I mean, that's one of the best examples of like a difference in a shift in culture.
[1047] Imagine hearing that today.
[1048] Imagine hearing that we had slid so far down that Trump and poop.
[1049] and we're engaging in a duel and they were going to go back to back and Trump cheated and shot him and we're yeah I wonder who would cheat who well if that happened if Trump took a bullet but his gun misfired then he recocked it and fire again oh that would be a Trump thing that's what but that's what he did that's what Jackson did oh my gosh was it Jackson yeah yeah okay so he married Rachel Jackson who this is part of the duel because the guy he killed Dickinson had publicly called her a bigaman because she married Jackson not knowing her first husband had not finalized the divorce or something like that.
[1050] So that was a bigger scandal that he was married to some already married woman.
[1051] Oh.
[1052] And like that got outed.
[1053] So he's like, fuck you, I'm going to kill you.
[1054] Oh, my goodness.
[1055] Wow.
[1056] So he challenged him to a duel because of that.
[1057] Jackson challenged him to a duel?
[1058] And a reneged horse bet, he said.
[1059] Oh, my God.
[1060] A horse bet.
[1061] Oh, you can't cheat on horse betting.
[1062] Yeah.
[1063] Those are two big things, man. Don't say a man's wife is a bigamist And you don't say That's what they're shooting people over Fucking horse bets and shit Yeah those are barbarian people And those are ancestors Just 200 years ago It's like very civil Civil barbarianism Civil barbarianism It's like well we're barbarians But there are rules Well that's one of the more hilarious stories Of the Revolutionary War right The way the British soldiers dressed Was so silly They literally put a target on their fucking chest.
[1064] They made their vitals lighter.
[1065] It made, like, if you, you shoot guns, you know, it's like, you can see, if you can see things clearly, it makes a much more viable target.
[1066] Yes.
[1067] Yeah.
[1068] And you're talking about people that didn't have any sights on their guns.
[1069] Oh, wow.
[1070] In terms of optics, obviously, they had, like, little machined sites, little metal sites.
[1071] But the way these guys walk towards them, especially the ones with the X's on the chest, that shit is so ridiculous.
[1072] They're walking bullseys.
[1073] It's the dumbest thing.
[1074] Wow.
[1075] And the only thing that makes sense to me is that they had just had it easy for too long.
[1076] Not even easy, but they were in control for too long.
[1077] They got a little silly.
[1078] They forgot how barbaric people can be.
[1079] Well, they're thinking about fashion.
[1080] Well, that's the weirdest fashion, right?
[1081] Like, that was what they used for wartime.
[1082] Like, this is really what they...
[1083] That's like they're professionals.
[1084] Yeah.
[1085] You know what I mean?
[1086] Like, soldiers looked a little bit more like, hey guys, we're professional soldiers and we're...
[1087] It doesn't look like good clothes for fucking people up in.
[1088] No, it looks cool.
[1089] Yeah.
[1090] But what a weird outfit, right?
[1091] That military...
[1092] It's really weird.
[1093] How much hand -to -hand combat were they doing?
[1094] Because there wasn't a lot of swords.
[1095] They were just jerking each other off.
[1096] That's all they did.
[1097] They just got in the woods and...
[1098] Because if they knew any jiu -jitsu, they could...
[1099] That would be great.
[1100] Someone could choke everyone out with that.
[1101] With those outfits?
[1102] Yeah.
[1103] All that loose clothing are wearing.
[1104] I bet that clothing doesn't move good, too.
[1105] I mean, I'm just guessing, but I think they're...
[1106] fucking cloth.
[1107] It was probably dog shit back then.
[1108] Yeah.
[1109] Probably real stiff, hard to move around in.
[1110] It's just a weird outfit.
[1111] It's not like something you would, if you had to run through the woods and fire a gun, you want to wear like soldiers wear today and you want to be able to blend in.
[1112] But it's just so strange that that wasn't even a concern back then.
[1113] They had knee high leggings.
[1114] Yeah, weird shoes.
[1115] Wars were more like chess.
[1116] Like every, like the soldiers and all the different rank and file, they're all like pieces on a chessboard.
[1117] So it's all about strategy, you know.
[1118] It's like, we'll line our men up this way and we'll do this and blah, blah, blah, blah.
[1119] So it's more like that's how battles are being organized.
[1120] It's like chess games.
[1121] You want to know how good, you know, before it got guerrilla.
[1122] Right, right, right.
[1123] Well, it was guerrilla at first and then it became a chess game.
[1124] No, that's true.
[1125] Yeah, you're like Mongol days.
[1126] They were lighting people on fire and used them as catapults.
[1127] Yeah, by any means necessary war.
[1128] Those shoes did not have tread.
[1129] They hadn't invented tread on shoes yet.
[1130] That's how good people are.
[1131] Yes.
[1132] They had leather shoes.
[1133] So the soles were leather.
[1134] So they were scuffed up, but there was no tread.
[1135] I bet you some soldiers, like, figured out how they wrapped, you know, like took leather and wrapped layers, you know, around the foot.
[1136] So it created at least traction.
[1137] Because if you think, like, you take, like, a trail running shoe and you ever wear, like, like a Solomon Speedcross trail running shoe?
[1138] Oh, I love those.
[1139] Yeah, they're great.
[1140] They have these big divvits in the bottom.
[1141] You can really dig into the dirt with those things.
[1142] Yeah.
[1143] If you had to compare yourself running up a hill in cowboy boots that have the flat, leather smooth slippery surface versus you would fall on your fucking face yeah there's no way you'd have any confidence yeah nothing but those solomons you just dig in and go it gives you a totally false perception of re like i have um those vibram five finger running shoes oh yeah yeah yeah and uh i run in the trail ones which have like a good amount of tread in it but one day i tried to run in the ones that aren't trail ones they're they're basically just for the gym and they're super thin.
[1144] There was no tread at all.
[1145] I was falling on my fucking face.
[1146] My legs would just go, whoops.
[1147] Just kick out from going uphill.
[1148] Two legs just go whoopsies.
[1149] There's no tread.
[1150] No tread at all.
[1151] It's just slippery.
[1152] I couldn't imagine that.
[1153] You need, like, if you're running up a stiff hill, you need divvets, you know?
[1154] You need something that's going to help you.
[1155] Yeah.
[1156] They didn't even have that back then.
[1157] They just had leather.
[1158] Do you find tread?
[1159] I sort of found a shoe.
[1160] I think it says it was from the Revolutionary War, but it doesn't show the tread.
[1161] It's just a fucking old piece of leather that's somewhere like wrapped around his foot.
[1162] Don't tread on me. That was their shoes back then.
[1163] Bullshit -ass shoes.
[1164] But the bottom was just fucking leather.
[1165] I mean, I wonder when they figured out like vibrum leather soles, you know, I mean, rubber souls where they figured out how to get those like thick, deep treads in.
[1166] There's some slave shoes from the several war time.
[1167] Yeah, those are clogs.
[1168] Wow.
[1169] Basically, they just borrowed that Dutch technology.
[1170] Yeah, wooden shoes.
[1171] Fuck that.
[1172] Look at those things.
[1173] Wow.
[1174] Dude, this is a couple hundred years ago.
[1175] People would just take animal skin off and chop it up and put it on their body.
[1176] I love it.
[1177] That's how people stayed alive.
[1178] I like how they figured out wood and leather.
[1179] I wonder who the first fucking monkey was to figure out how skin and animal and wear its skin.
[1180] You know, it had to be like in the monkey days, right?
[1181] No, it feels like it would be a couple generations away from the monkey days, don't you think?
[1182] Maybe it was one...
[1183] I just can't imagine a monkey doing that.
[1184] One mean motherfucking chimp and they were going north and there's one dude who always annoyed him so he kills him with a rock and then uses the rock to take his fucking skin off and wears it to freak everybody else out.
[1185] But then he realizes it makes him warm.
[1186] Oh, yeah.
[1187] And you go a little further north.
[1188] Uh -huh.
[1189] It's like a movie.
[1190] Okay.
[1191] I like it.
[1192] You see the movie?
[1193] Can you see that scene?
[1194] I can see that...
[1195] That's like, that's what the entire movie leads up to.
[1196] I wonder what in the first monkey figured out he could kill.
[1197] an animal with like a tool like the first like australia pythicus or one of those oh yeah primitive humans when the first one was that stabbed something like a stabbed a rat or a rabbit with a stick and went holy shit right i can just use this tool yeah what other tools i'm gonna start eating yeah i'm gonna eat good because if you didn't have a weapon how hard is it for a person to kill something with your hands what are you even gonna get what are you gonna catch what the fuck can you catch with your hands well you can't catch a squirrel you'd be just your hands no tools you'd be hunting and gathering mostly i mean i mean gathering i would say yeah you'd be eating shit that you found on the ground yeah that's primarily what you would eat and then once in a while you'd get something an animal but but yeah but then they had yeah you're right uh they obviously had to figure out different ways of getting animals well it's one of the shifts that they think took place that allowed the the human brain size to double over a period of two million years Oh, really?
[1198] Human brain size, apparently, I was listening to a Terrence McKenna lecture on this once.
[1199] And he was talking about all the human brain size doubled over the period of 2 million years.
[1200] It's one of the biggest mysteries in the fossil record.
[1201] And his idea was that they discovered mushrooms and that the chimps over this period of time or the monkey people, whatever the fuck they were, ancient hominids, had discovered mushrooms after the climate had shifted.
[1202] And he backed it up.
[1203] He did back it up.
[1204] I believe he's dead now.
[1205] He backed it up with some climate data that we know from, you know, core samples and stuff like that.
[1206] Yeah.
[1207] He thinks that they experienced climate change where the rainforests had receded in the grasslands and that this gave birth to the rise of undulates like cows and, you know, deer and things like that.
[1208] Yeah.
[1209] And they would shit and these mushrooms would grow on their shit.
[1210] And then they've observed a lot of these monkeys in the wild picking up cow paddies.
[1211] and looking for grubs and beetles underneath it.
[1212] Oh, I see.
[1213] And they think they might have experimented with the mushrooms.
[1214] And that if they experimented with psilocybin mushrooms, a lot of things could take place once they realized that it was not just a viable food source, but also provided them with a bunch of different benefits.
[1215] One being their vision and increases visual acuity.
[1216] I know.
[1217] It's so weird.
[1218] Especially in low doses.
[1219] So I would make them see things better.
[1220] Two, it makes them hornier, makes it more communal, and it makes them more creative.
[1221] And all those things possibly could have given.
[1222] birth to the to language and to a lot of other things they also think it's possible that that creativity could have enabled them to start hunting that they started using tools and you and thinking and and and trying to figure out ways around stuff and trying to you know try to figure out how to make an effective weapon to kill something at a distance like the more they're thinking and becoming creative the more that stuff's enhancing them and this this period of two million years is like a pretty profound jump for the human brain size they think some of that also came to do with our desire to kill things with with weapons.
[1223] But once we started hunting and eating meat, we got way more protein, more bioavailable protein.
[1224] It was healthier for the animal, for the human animal.
[1225] And then we also started to try to figure out other better ways to kill these animals, which made us even more creative and competitive.
[1226] Yeah, yeah.
[1227] And they think that all these, all these factors might have taken place that turned us into a person.
[1228] That's pretty amazing.
[1229] Two million years.
[1230] Yeah, it's just like a deviation.
[1231] Well, you know, it's even crazy here?
[1232] 65 million years ago, we were like a mole.
[1233] Oh, yeah.
[1234] People were like a little shrew.
[1235] That's our ancestor.
[1236] That's right.
[1237] I remember that.
[1238] What's the name of that thing?
[1239] Oh, no, man. I think it's the Phnorf, Gryphicchichs, chis, chispritschis.
[1240] What is this?
[1241] Snorff chrysifist.
[1242] I think you're right.
[1243] Say it again.
[1244] A pisk.
[1245] The snorff chrispis -sistress.
[1246] It was like a weird little mole saying.
[1247] Crispusis, but this.
[1248] That's what it is.
[1249] Yeah.
[1250] It's a little tiny rodent.
[1251] Yeah, because I did a podcast, or no, I toured with...
[1252] What is it, Jamie?
[1253] Oh, there it is.
[1254] I don't know.
[1255] The alias of, what is that word?
[1256] Eutherian mammals was a small rat -like creature depicted in this illustration that lived 145 million years ago.
[1257] Wow.
[1258] In the shadow of the dinosaurs.
[1259] So that rat -like creature apparently survived the asteroid impact.
[1260] I don't think that's the thing, though.
[1261] It's, there's another, there's a formal name for it.
[1262] I know because I was on a podcast and they were the, one of the segments of it, they talked about this thing.
[1263] This is, but the only reason why I'm skeptical is because it says 145 million years ago, but I guess maybe they survived the impact.
[1264] Scroll back up to the top of the title says, these rodent like creatures are the earliest known ancestors of humans, whales, and truce.
[1265] Oh, okay.
[1266] That's what's even more crazy.
[1267] Like, we used to be a whale.
[1268] Yeah.
[1269] It's like, or our ancestor, we shared a common ancestor, I should say.
[1270] Yeah, we like went into the sea and then Yeah, on land That thing, that fucking rat became a whale What?
[1271] Maybe that's it Utheria, there it is Okay Mm -hmm That turned into a person, folks Think about that when you're setting your rat traps I know 100 million years And now rats might be Some super superior Human form I think that's very possible But I mean that I get Why Christians are skeptical now I'm like, what do you Show me your work God made this God did not I was not a rat.
[1272] I was not a rat, sir.
[1273] Yeah, I just appeared.
[1274] But in essence, here's a way to kind of maybe justify that argument.
[1275] It's like, let's say the mushroom thing is true, right?
[1276] So in essence, humans became humans with the intervention, if you will, of a natural psychedelic substance, which then expanded the mind and enabled the growth of that mind, the acceleration of intelligence, self -awareness, like light speed and so in essence like god created man or whatever you like that idea it's like well in in essence it is the unit if you think of god as the universe or whatever that's one way of thinking of it god collective consciousness whatever you want to call it like that that intervention or the the ability to see or sense that expansiveness of that collective intelligence could be attributed to god so therefore you could say well i was never blah was like well yeah you are from that but what created you was something more cosmic so and if if that's even true well i was reading a quote today from that someone was mocking from peers morgan we was talking about the you like atheists and uh not knowing what happened before the big bang not knowing how no one has any answer for what happened before the big bang and about how this made sense to him, that this is, I think the way he was saying it was somehow or another it was evidence, or at least in his eyes of something more superior.
[1277] Oh, here it is.
[1278] No, atheists can never say what was there before the Big Bang.
[1279] They just say nothing and they can't explain what nothing actually is.
[1280] No human brain can, which is why I believe in something that has superior powers to the human brain.
[1281] Well, that makes sense that there's definitely, oh, Brian Cox went after his ass.
[1282] What did Brian Cox say?
[1283] If you mean the hot Big Bang, then there may be a period of rapid expansion known as inflation.
[1284] This theory is able to account for the observed features of the universe including the CMB power spectrum and the flatness and horizon problems.
[1285] I love it.
[1286] Brian Cox just came out of him with the science.
[1287] I love it.
[1288] I know what he's trying to say.
[1289] I know what he's trying to say, what Pierce Morgan is trying to say, and he's right.
[1290] No one has an answer as to like, why.
[1291] why this thing became, why the Big Bang happened.
[1292] It's an interesting quote by this guy we was talking about, forget who it was, I wish I could remember, but he was talking about how people, it might have been McKenna, have so much faith in science and so little faith in mystical things, but yet science revolves on one initial theory where magic took place, where everything came out of nothing, that it was smaller than the head of a pin.
[1293] So everything that you see in the observable universe, including planes, trains, and automobiles, all of it had to have had an origin in the most spectacular sorcery the world has ever known.
[1294] Like, it is all dependent upon magic.
[1295] So he wasn't, he wasn't saying that, you know, ridiculous ideological ideas of the start and birth and death of the universe are fact.
[1296] But he was saying that, look, look, the fact, according to scientists, is that all evidence points to this whole thing coming out of nothing.
[1297] This whole thing, this whole thing existing out of nowhere.
[1298] And what Pierce Morgan is, I think, is saying is that that gives proof that something superior to the human brain, which for sure it does.
[1299] Well, here is.
[1300] We are asked by science to believe that the entire universe sprang from nothingness and at a single point and for no discernible reason.
[1301] This notion is the limit case for credulity.
[1302] In other words, if you can believe this, you can believe anything.
[1303] Well, I think I said it.
[1304] I said it in a paraphrasical way.
[1305] That's basically the same thing.
[1306] He's, you know, just saying, like, it's all nuts, man. Yeah.
[1307] I mean, my thing is, like, I think, I like to think of it as in simulation terms in the sense that if thinking of, like, reality in the way it's perceived and the way we move through it is kind of a designed game of sorts.
[1308] And so if I think of it in that way, like nothing and something, nothing and something, that's just kind of, that's the core of our reality, right?
[1309] We live in a binary reality.
[1310] Everything is a complex assortment of binaries that add up into a really complex system in a way.
[1311] So what do you think it's moving towards?
[1312] What do you think about that?
[1313] Well, that's the thing.
[1314] I think that part of the rules or what makes it hard to rationalize like nothingness or, uh, or something very, very fantastic is just because it's binary, we are binary in our thought process.
[1315] So it's hard for us to not think of things in a binary way.
[1316] So we think, oh, there was a beginning.
[1317] No, there was an ending.
[1318] There was a beginning.
[1319] There was an ending.
[1320] But really, it's infinite.
[1321] It's like it's paradox, right?
[1322] It's everything and nothing simultaneously.
[1323] And the absence of which.
[1324] But I guess what I'm saying is that the idea that things are infinite, that reality is infinite.
[1325] It's kind of a good way, but kind of can be scary, but a good way to think of it because it doesn't make any sense why it wouldn't be.
[1326] It seems like we have a limited way of viewing what reality is, and I think we're limited by our binary thought processes, I guess.
[1327] Well, it's also interesting that we want to put any sort of limitations on the universe and that its immense size isn't crazy enough for us.
[1328] Yeah, I know.
[1329] I know.
[1330] I know.
[1331] Or that, like, we could look at, what we know, right?
[1332] If we know that the universe has hundreds of billions of galaxies, like there's a bunch of competing theories as to what happens, you know, with black holes and whether or not there's multiverses, there's a bunch of competing theories, right?
[1333] Yes, right.
[1334] But one of the most profound ones that it was ever explained to me is that there's a super massive black hole in the center of every galaxy.
[1335] And it's exactly, I think, one half of one percent of the mass, the entire galaxy.
[1336] Oh, really?
[1337] It works out like that.
[1338] So the bigger galaxies have bigger supermassive black galaxy.
[1339] holes and the the concept is that it's there is a real possibility that going through that black hole you would encounter an entirely different universe with hundreds of billions of galaxies each galaxy have a black hole in the center of it go through that black hole an entirely different universe so each one each universe where you have hundreds of billions of galaxies there are hundreds of billions of universes through those black holes and And each one of those galaxies or each one of those universes has also hundreds of billions of galaxies.
[1340] And each one of those has a black hole.
[1341] You go through that.
[1342] Hundreds of billions of galaxy that the whole thing.
[1343] It's just like just keeps happening.
[1344] There's a resistant.
[1345] No, come on.
[1346] There's a thing, like an instant reaction to resist that notion.
[1347] As if the universe itself isn't already the most incredible thing of magic.
[1348] Right.
[1349] I know.
[1350] Like, what do you care if it's infinite?
[1351] Why is that?
[1352] Why would you even resist that?
[1353] Well, because that's the part of the binary thinking.
[1354] It's like you want something to have an end.
[1355] It's like it's a way for us to survive.
[1356] But like, you know, it's like, oh, there's an end to that.
[1357] That creates a need to survive.
[1358] But when you think of things in an abstract, like, well, if something is just infinite, infinite, infinite, what does that mean about us?
[1359] It's like, that's the question.
[1360] That's the thing to explore because then you have to renegotiate your relationship to reality, which is pretty sick.
[1361] We have at least, we'd like to take comfort in the idea that the universe has at least there's a certain parameter to it.
[1362] No, no, no, it's 14 billion light years.
[1363] And that's it.
[1364] No more.
[1365] No more crazy.
[1366] As if you can even understand what 14 billion light years is.
[1367] There's no way it could be that number.
[1368] It seems more like 19.
[1369] But whatever that number is.
[1370] They don't, I know, the way Cox explained to me. Yeah.
[1371] And I believe Sean Carroll explained it this way as well.
[1372] There's a real, there's a real lack of understanding.
[1373] about what goes beyond that because it takes a certain amount of time for light to even get to us and that time that the light doesn't move fast enough to reach us from further events so if you had something from like 200 billion light years ago maybe the light wouldn't even get to us yet yeah there's things that yeah I mean we're living in a time machine yeah I mean that's when you that's the other mind fuck when you're looking this guy And you're seeing a galaxy or any sort of star like in the deep, deep, deep, deep distance of space.
[1374] Yeah.
[1375] The fucking light coming from that thing left a million years ago.
[1376] Yeah, I know.
[1377] Or way more.
[1378] You're literally just looking at the past.
[1379] What is, if you had to imagine, what is the closest star to our star in the seable universe?
[1380] When you look up into the night sky, what are the closest?
[1381] Is it the closest?
[1382] Sometimes things are called stars, but they're planets from old school times.
[1383] Um, and I could be wrong.
[1384] If you had a guess, was the closest.
[1385] How many like you?
[1386] Alphus and Tari, uh, I don't know.
[1387] That sounds great.
[1388] Alphas and Tari is it?
[1389] How much is it?
[1390] How far was that?
[1391] Four, four point three light years from Earth.
[1392] Wow.
[1393] That's not too bad.
[1394] That's a hop, skipping a jump.
[1395] If you could go to the speed of light, take you four years.
[1396] I bet that's like the Hawaii of outer space that like they go there and there's a pit stop there before they come to Earth and the aliens come and they want to chill?
[1397] I hope so.
[1398] All right.
[1399] So, hold on.
[1400] This is a...
[1401] Oh, shit.
[1402] Some new...
[1403] Some breaking news.
[1404] No, not really.
[1405] It's a binary pair.
[1406] So I imagine that means that they move around each other a little bit.
[1407] Yeah, they orbit around each other.
[1408] There's technically a third star, Proxima Centari, which is, because it says those are an average of 4 .3.
[1409] This one's 4 .22.
[1410] So it's technically closer.
[1411] Nice.
[1412] I guess that average type.
[1413] So two are closer than the one.
[1414] On one day.
[1415] Now, do they know if there's planets around those stars?
[1416] So they didn't even know there were other planets for sure, other than our solar system.
[1417] I know.
[1418] Isn't that crazy?
[1419] To just a couple decades ago.
[1420] It's so amazing.
[1421] To me, it's like shining a flashlight in the ocean.
[1422] Yeah.
[1423] You know, like that's what space is like.
[1424] Right.
[1425] It's like you're moving a beam, but like things are constantly changing at different distances.
[1426] And you can see better under certain circumstances and you can see at different times.
[1427] So, like, it's kind of like a big existential party.
[1428] You're like, I think I'm making sense of this.
[1429] And then there's all these theories.
[1430] And then someone catches another angle.
[1431] They're like, no, no, no. I mean, yes, a little bit of what you guys were thinking, but also this.
[1432] And they're like, fuck.
[1433] And they just keep adding to it.
[1434] But I don't know if we're going to find necessarily anything.
[1435] Well, when you talk to physicists about the subject and they try to explain to you how they even reach these conclusions and how they know that there's black holes out there in the first place.
[1436] And these theories, fucking, like these theories.
[1437] of multiverses and...
[1438] Yeah, that's my favorite.
[1439] And brains, the membranes, that there's, like, the next lines of universes, then we collide with each other occasionally.
[1440] Yeah.
[1441] What the fuck?
[1442] That's what I think ghosts are, by the way.
[1443] Which was, like, in interstellar, was it interstellar?
[1444] Mm -hmm.
[1445] One with, yeah, with Matthew Modine.
[1446] Is that the start?
[1447] O' dare you.
[1448] I know.
[1449] I'm pretty sure it was Modine.
[1450] Guys.
[1451] Vision quest.
[1452] Different era.
[1453] Oh, my God.
[1454] Remember that?
[1455] Remember the Russian training?
[1456] the log up the stairs yes no he wasn't Russian he was no no no he's the shoot oh yeah he was like the he was the ultra guy boy yeah some but there was like a guy training that's or was he training or was the was the opponent training like the well matthew modem was trained and crazy but he was trying to drop weight to go down to fight this to wrestle this guy that everybody was terrified of yeah that's what it was but was shoot the one that was walking with the log yeah he was carrying a log up us up stadium stairs that's right that was so sick and he was like super hardcore he's like you think you're gonna make the wait he goes I hope so he goes I hope so too and just kept walking with the log boom so good see if you can find that scene that's so good I mean it's a great movie man it's a great thing because like that interaction right there is so genius because it's like tells you everything you need to know about both of those characters yeah yeah exactly so they go there he is there's a dude this badass beast wrestler of course he's by himself and his friend's got a fucking cool headband.
[1457] Well, his friend was a fake Indian.
[1458] Oh.
[1459] His friend lied about being a Native American.
[1460] Oh, so he could get into college?
[1461] No, he just thought it made him look cool.
[1462] Like, here we go.
[1463] Do I know you?
[1464] Loud sweet, Tom's and High.
[1465] Loud on Swain, Thompson High.
[1466] Can you play this over the air?
[1467] No, no, don't.
[1468] We'll get pulled.
[1469] Yeah.
[1470] They're going to make the wait?
[1471] I hope so.
[1472] It's like, I hope so, too.
[1473] He's just walking around Oh, there's a log.
[1474] Boom.
[1475] And everyone's scared.
[1476] That dude's pretty big.
[1477] Yeah.
[1478] For 80s.
[1479] Yeah.
[1480] Well, he looked like a real wrestler.
[1481] Yeah, he looks real.
[1482] Like guys like Mark Schultz when he's competing in the Olympics, he was fucking jacked, man. Yeah.
[1483] There was some jacked wrestlers back then.
[1484] It still is, obviously.
[1485] Yeah.
[1486] It's one of the more physically intensive things you can do.
[1487] Yeah.
[1488] Add that protection, that muscle protects you.
[1489] Yeah.
[1490] It's also, I mean, just wrestling all the time.
[1491] You're going to get strong.
[1492] Oh, yeah.
[1493] Yeah.
[1494] That true.
[1495] True.
[1496] That too.
[1497] You get a certain kind of strength, too, with that weird grip strength.
[1498] Oh, man, I'm telling you, that shit is like, it's like immediate, like violent amounts of strength, like for grips and stuff like that.
[1499] Because I just remember my friend, he was a wrestler, and I was like, yeah, I don't know, wrestling, it seems pretty hard or whatever.
[1500] See, here, let me show you a move.
[1501] And I was standing, I was looking at him.
[1502] And I just blinked, and I was just out of breath on the ground, on my back, just like, huh, huh.
[1503] They're experts at throwing bodies around.
[1504] Just like, ugh.
[1505] I mean, it's like strength, grip, and being able to torque shit and make shit happen.
[1506] I mean, it's insane.
[1507] Well, think about things you do to get fit, right?
[1508] Like with sandbags and stuff.
[1509] People do a lot of, like, extreme things, right?
[1510] They flip tires, throw sandbags.
[1511] Yep.
[1512] They take heavy bags, too.
[1513] They throw them over their shoulder.
[1514] Oh, yeah.
[1515] When you're wrestling, you're doing all that plus.
[1516] And plus, it's resisting.
[1517] Plus, another thing is trying to get you.
[1518] Right.
[1519] Yeah, it's super.
[1520] active it's like it's like active strength is going to be a deeper form of strength yes yes range of motion strength yeah that's why the worst kind of strength is like nautilus machine strength yeah yeah weight assisted machines not the worst kind of strength i shouldn't say that those things all have their purpose they're really good for like specific types of workouts and specific types of exercises where you're just trying to fatigue the muscles like a lot of like a lot of strength and conditioning athletes like to use those to bang out reps because it's they feel like there's less factors going on in terms of whether or not you could drop the weight when you're losing coordination because you're super exhausted it's safer but it's most people don't think it's ideal for just for sport specific meaning for just overall strength because you're you're not getting balance with it like if you if you go to heavy weights like free weights most people think that free weights are superior to a machine because you got to balance that thing push it up and you develop you develop stability you're actually holding the weight instead of just pushing against a for like using your force against something that's lined up on tracks yeah you're controlling it you have to control it the whole way yeah so that's what wrestling is but it's fighting back it's even harder yeah it's like on top of that 80 pound dude who's also fighting back and it's fuck like you're trying to pick him up and move him around and he's also trying to get you at the same time yeah and it's all strategic yeah so you're like on a strategic instinctual level, then you hope your training and your reflexes and your intuition.
[1521] It's really interesting to watch like really skillful technical wrestlers because they go from one technique to another and they just chain wrestle.
[1522] Like watching like a lot of those particularly Russians.
[1523] There's a lot of Russian, a lot of Soviet block athletes from years back even.
[1524] We're like really, really technical what they're wrestling.
[1525] Really beautiful to watch them chain these techniques together and do these different moves to try to achieve dominance.
[1526] and it's a crazy sport.
[1527] Yeah, I, whenever I watched it, it's like, you feel like, it's like when I watch dance, I'm like, I'm kind of moving with it, you know?
[1528] I mean, it happens with all sports, I suppose.
[1529] But wrestling, it's just like, oh, like the energy when I'm watching it, which has been very rare, but in high school, I used to see wrestling matches.
[1530] My friend was a wrestler, and just be like, oh, oh, yeah, oh, it's fucking exciting.
[1531] Yeah, it's cool, because it's like, it slows down, it's fast, it's slow, It's fast.
[1532] They're exhausted.
[1533] Yeah.
[1534] Take a break.
[1535] They go in.
[1536] And then like nothing for a while.
[1537] Like really just like slow moves.
[1538] And then suddenly someone just does like this really weird.
[1539] And it just flips.
[1540] And it's like I love that energy, man. It's a different thing than any other sport.
[1541] Yeah.
[1542] It's different than any other sport that's in the Olympics too.
[1543] Like the Olympics, you have boxing and wrestling.
[1544] And then you have sports.
[1545] Judo?
[1546] Yeah, judo.
[1547] Even Taekwondo.
[1548] They have Taekwondo in the Olympics too now.
[1549] But the thing is that.
[1550] It's a different kind of sport, man. It's a sport where people get fucked up.
[1551] Like, those are different.
[1552] Yeah.
[1553] They're just different.
[1554] It's a different feeling when you're watching it.
[1555] It's a different consequence when you fail.
[1556] Yeah.
[1557] Yeah.
[1558] Yeah.
[1559] I mean, it's as close as you can get.
[1560] It's the closest thing to fighting.
[1561] Oh, yeah.
[1562] I mean, because fighting is mostly grappling.
[1563] It's a lot of it.
[1564] It's not everything.
[1565] Yeah.
[1566] But like at least, what, two thirds?
[1567] Maybe?
[1568] Well, no. I don't think so.
[1569] Real fights.
[1570] It's really, like a street fight or an MMA fight?
[1571] Like street fights go down pretty quick, right?
[1572] Sometimes they do.
[1573] But sometimes they just get people get knocked out.
[1574] Sometimes people can just get flatlined because they don't know how to strike and someone does and they punch them on the face.
[1575] That happens a lot, man. There's a lot of videos.
[1576] I think I've seen some of those.
[1577] Yeah, I mean, it definitely does happen that a lot of fights go to the ground.
[1578] And I think jihitsu is a great thing to learn and wrestling is a great thing to learn because of that.
[1579] Like the ability to manipulate someone's body.
[1580] is really important.
[1581] But you also should understand what someone's doing if they're trying to punch you.
[1582] Some people just don't have any idea what's happening.
[1583] And then they just get bong, they're fucking bell crack because they don't see a guy pulling his hand back.
[1584] They don't see the shift in weight.
[1585] They don't see someone about to punch them.
[1586] They don't see where the punch is going to come from with direction that they have to avoid.
[1587] They don't see those things because they've never experienced it because they don't have a training.
[1588] They don't have any training in striking.
[1589] That's just, that's fucking dangerous, man. Because if you lose to a, a wrestler or you lose to a jujitsu guy a lot of times your wrestler might beat you up on the ground and pound you but a jujitsu guy's probably just going to choke you but a kickbox is going to slam his fucking chin into your face oh my god you do not want that man you do not want that holy shit it's the worst way to lose the worst way to lose is to a striker oh you see the ufc this past weekend no this is the fastest ever knockout in uc history this guy horhe mazvadal knocked out this two -time Olympic wrestler, Ben Ascran, who's a beast of a wrestler, and it knocked him out in five seconds because Ascran went to shoot to try to get a hold of his legs, and Mazvedo ran at him with a flying knee and hit him right in the face while he was trying to bend forward.
[1590] That's legal?
[1591] Yeah, oh, fuck yeah, it's legal.
[1592] That's it right there.
[1593] Boom.
[1594] Oh, fuck.
[1595] It's all over the internet.
[1596] You want to see it?
[1597] So, yeah.
[1598] It takes five seconds.
[1599] It was one of those things where we watched it and we went, holy shit.
[1600] Like, as it happened, okay, is that us talking about it?
[1601] That one down there But that one down there But you just turned away from it That wasn't the bit But the one below it That wasn't it?
[1602] No It wasn't it Oh it's other people talking about the reaction I see It's definitely on Instagram But apparently it's getting pulled Left and right Yeah of course they're gonna try to do that Which is like that's for everybody I don't understand Why they wouldn't Let everybody have that It's like no we need that we need to own that commodity But that's it's good for everybody It's not how the internet works either You don't win fans Here we go So this is the beginning in the fight ready this is round one yep out cold five seconds good call by the ref though yeah it wasn't even really five seconds he was out cold at three seconds they someone did time from here boom out cold three seconds and as a referee's running over to him yeah and why is he yelling at him they hated each other really yeah they hated each other Jorge masvedal said that guy was taunting him for like 10 years talking shit to him so he couldn't wait to do that to him yeah now what Well, Ben dust himself off.
[1603] He took it like a man. I mean, he really did.
[1604] He went on a talk show and talked about it afterwards.
[1605] Good.
[1606] Yeah.
[1607] That's how you fucking doucheate.
[1608] Yeah.
[1609] Yeah, he's like, look, it sucks.
[1610] I don't like losing that guy.
[1611] He's a douche.
[1612] Yeah, right.
[1613] But they're probably going to end up being somewhat friendly later on down the line.
[1614] No. You don't think so?
[1615] No, Mazvedal said that if he saw him at Whole Foods, it's not over.
[1616] He's still smack him in the face.
[1617] Even Whole Foods couldn't hold him back.
[1618] Whole Foods can't hold him back.
[1619] Right in front of kombucha.
[1620] The real G .T.'s kombucha, the kind that you need a credit, you get to show your ID to get.
[1621] It's like, no, Whole Foods, man, that's like, that's like Hallogran.
[1622] You can't start a fight there.
[1623] It's like, no, he's willing to break the rules.
[1624] I saw a fight at Disneyland on Instagram the other day.
[1625] These were going out on Disneyland.
[1626] Some guy punched a chick, too.
[1627] What?
[1628] People filming it, too.
[1629] People were filming it, and these people were throwing down in front of their kids at Disneyland.
[1630] Terrible technique, too.
[1631] Everybody's terrible.
[1632] Terrible.
[1633] I love that the equally disappointing aspect of it was a terrible technique.
[1634] It's the most disappointing.
[1635] It's like, guys, if you're gonna fight, learn some technique.
[1636] Yeah, I mean, it's like someone stealing the stage and playing bad guitar.
[1637] You'd be angry, wouldn't you?
[1638] Yeah, sure, of course.
[1639] You know what I'm saying?
[1640] Yeah, I get it.
[1641] No, I'm in complete agreement.
[1642] I think that that is kind of equally important because, hey, man, if people are filming, it looked like a consensual fight.
[1643] You look like you're trying to pretend, to fight yeah and the the worst is the pulling off of the shirt i don't even know how that even becomes like an instinct it's actually a good move well it's to keep you slippery right so you can like well you want yeah you don't want anybody choking you to death with your own jacket oh that's true yeah that's true well okay but i mean i guess in the videos that i've seen it's been mostly about like hey check out how jacked it i am and like uh oh bro yeah yeah yeah the end here did it i kind look like this dude got choked out but i couldn't quite tell what was going on here because he went down quick is that security and he might even been out for a second so he's pulling that girl's hair see oh yeah he's out cold he's out cold oh he dropped him his head banged off the ground too that bald dude choked the shit out of he's like oh I just killed that guy I'm gonna get out of here but yeah no one no charges repressed because no one wanted to say what the fight was about hilarious was that so was a guy that was holding a girl's hair at the end he said he got spit on and then he went crazy wow I don't know if that was there, a whole thing.
[1644] Isn't it funny that it's all it takes?
[1645] A little bit of water.
[1646] A little bit of...
[1647] Yeah.
[1648] It's funny.
[1649] I got all the things that make people go crazy.
[1650] Spit in someone's face.
[1651] It's like, wow.
[1652] We're ready to go to war here.
[1653] Yeah.
[1654] I mean, it is pretty crude.
[1655] Couldn't have been like a biological weapon back in the day if you had some, like, smallpox or some shit?
[1656] Yeah, like, how dare you potentially infect me?
[1657] Do you ever hear Damon Wayne's joke about when Magic Johnson came back to the NBA?
[1658] Magic Johnson after he had HIV and then came back to the NBA He said, Damon Wayans Who's, in my opinion One of the most underrated comedians of all time Still one of my all -time All -time favorites But in one of his HBO specials He goes, everybody was avoided magic No way he wanted to play defense He goes except Dennis Rodman He goes Dennis Rodman's like, listen I'll spit in your mouth And accelerate your symptoms Oh my God I'll spit in your mouth And accelerate your symptoms To this day That's one of my all -time favorite lines i hear that line i'm like god damn that's a great that is a crafted brilliant thing to think it's like it's like 180 it hurts that one hurts i'll spit in your mouth and accelerate your symptoms i mean it's no he says i'm sorry i fuck madonna that's what he said i'll spit in your mouth and accelerate your symptoms those even even more potent that's like some shit talking like that's the type of shit that wins that wins the whole thing yeah you got to walk away Keep talking after that Like, no, that's it You're not taking you lost like a man Take you lost like a man Yeah Yeah, maybe that's why spitting And it's also, it's gross It's just gross and so rude It's so fucking rude I mean when someone purposefully spits at you You're like, I want to destroy you I would kind of understand that reaction You should think people where you're like licking food At grocery stores Like some girl's gonna get arrested Or she's facing like 20 or something.
[1659] I don't understand.
[1660] I don't know why.
[1661] I think it's a power that's happening.
[1662] They thought it was funny to lick food and then know that people are going to buy it.
[1663] Yeah, yeah.
[1664] Well, people think it's funny to spit in people's food when they're serving it, too.
[1665] Yeah, it's weird.
[1666] People are kind of gross sometimes.
[1667] Yeah, you know, they'll get it any way they can, man. They'll get back.
[1668] They'll get back at the world.
[1669] Yeah.
[1670] Do you take this?
[1671] My shit position in life.
[1672] It's like, no, I don't agree.
[1673] Here's your salad.
[1674] I'm sorry.
[1675] Yeah.
[1676] I know.
[1677] Mix it up.
[1678] so you gotta be nice to so you gotta be nice to everybody but we like swap and spit with people isn't that weird that is really weird well because that's consensual right yeah well not just that's consensual it's like it's pleasurable it's like even if it's consensual you don't want anybody spit in your mouth no because that's super fucking gross yeah if kissing someone's okay you open your mouth and they're like tu like that would be weird like you just spit my fucking this is gross god damn but if someone's kissing you and their tongues in your mouth and you're swapping literally swapping spit it's sexy it's hot We like it.
[1679] Yeah.
[1680] I'm glad.
[1681] I'm glad that I like that part.
[1682] Yeah.
[1683] Because the other part, I'm just like, come on, man. You can't.
[1684] What's wrong with you?
[1685] What the fuck are you doing?
[1686] What are you doing?
[1687] We're spitting each other's mouths.
[1688] You don't need to do that.
[1689] You could just choose not to.
[1690] It's like the delivery method is what we have a real problem with.
[1691] Yeah, exactly.
[1692] Apart from the program, these two fucking football players do it.
[1693] They split giant movie in each other's mouth.
[1694] That's a movie?
[1695] Yeah.
[1696] So they really did do it for the scene?
[1697] I'm pretty sure.
[1698] I had to.
[1699] Oh, fucking disgusting.
[1700] They spit in each other's mouths.
[1701] Well, I guess when you're playing football, you just want to be as savage as possible.
[1702] And you don't give a fuck.
[1703] You'll make out with a dude.
[1704] You'll fuck a couple of guys.
[1705] And then you'll go play football.
[1706] Yeah, because then you feel like...
[1707] You don't care!
[1708] You have the entire force of the universe behind you.
[1709] Yeah.
[1710] People do things to let people know they don't give a fuck.
[1711] Yeah, that's true.
[1712] That is true.
[1713] They do things like that.
[1714] Like, have you seen Euphoria?
[1715] The HBO show?
[1716] No. It's fucking fantastic.
[1717] Yeah.
[1718] I think it's out now.
[1719] You know what it is, Jamie?
[1720] I've heard of it.
[1721] I heard it's good.
[1722] I have not watched it yet.
[1723] What's it about?
[1724] Ridiculous.
[1725] It's basically about, it centers around a drug addicted high schooler played by Zendaya.
[1726] And it's just about the modern, kind of modern generation high school experience through her drug addiction or trying to overcome drug addiction or kind of realizing what is going on with her at that stage in her life.
[1727] And there's just, it's just the culture of all the things that kids deal with these days.
[1728] But it's done in a really, really hyper beautiful, stylized way.
[1729] It's so crazy intelligent.
[1730] It's amazing.
[1731] It really blew me away.
[1732] I was not, I just went to the opening and was like, I don't know.
[1733] I don't know what this is.
[1734] And then the guy got up and talked about it because the writer experienced addiction has been clean for 15 years.
[1735] But that was his life back then as a teenager.
[1736] And so they adapted it.
[1737] And it's great.
[1738] But the reason why I bring that up is, what were we talking about a second ago?
[1739] What were we talking about?
[1740] Spitting.
[1741] Spitting each of those mouths?
[1742] Yeah.
[1743] Yeah, we went from that.
[1744] Two people want to pretend they don't give a fuck.
[1745] They want to let you know they don't give a fuck.
[1746] Oh, yeah.
[1747] That's exactly right.
[1748] Yeah.
[1749] So there's like a great scene in the first, in the pilot.
[1750] It doesn't really give away anything.
[1751] But one of the characters, she's in a kitchen.
[1752] And there's like a big bully dude, popular guy that's like getting, getting in her face and being really threatening and then she takes a knife and she just slices her arm and she thinks her she's like stay away from me motherfucker or something like that there's something more eloquent that she says but that happens and then she introduces herself and leaves she goes oh by the way I'm and she walks out but it's such an intense scene it goes from the darkest to the darkest to like a practical this person is really smart the girl who cut her arm is incredibly smart that's a crazy thing to do to someone cut yourself in front of them it just shows you it's like I don't give a fuck like that's like what do you yeah exactly yeah and the guy was everyone was just frozen they're like I don't know what to fuck there's a bunch of high school kids in a kitchen pretty cool pretty cool like character detail that just kind of like shows you everything about that character in a split second yeah Jesus Amazing.
[1753] I love that shit.
[1754] That's intense.
[1755] Yeah.
[1756] I love when you don't know something's good.
[1757] You don't know anything about it, and then it turns out to be awesome.
[1758] It's the best feeling.
[1759] Previews are one of my favorite parts of going on the movies.
[1760] I love previews.
[1761] But yet, they ruin movies.
[1762] Exactly.
[1763] I know.
[1764] I'm the same way.
[1765] I'm the same way.
[1766] It's like peeking into a Christmas present.
[1767] Like when you're a little kid, you're like, I'm just unwrap this bitch and then re -wrap it.
[1768] It's a fucking tie fighter.
[1769] Oh my God.
[1770] I know it's Darth Vader's.
[1771] Yeah.
[1772] Yeah, a little fucking sneak.
[1773] And then you have to ask.
[1774] They need to act like you.
[1775] Oh my God.
[1776] I didn't even think she's coming.
[1777] Fuck.
[1778] And your parents are like, let me look at that rapping again.
[1779] Oh, fuck.
[1780] I have been caught.
[1781] But that's almost like what previews are.
[1782] You get to see a little bit about what the movie's about.
[1783] Wouldn't it be better if you had no fucking idea?
[1784] If you just, I don't want to even know a synopsis.
[1785] I don't want to, I don't know what King Kong is.
[1786] I mentioned if you didn't know what King Kong was, like the newer King.
[1787] Kong.
[1788] Yeah, you thought it was like about like a king.
[1789] Yeah.
[1790] You have no idea and you sit down.
[1791] You have no idea how the story's going to come out.
[1792] And the moment you see the gorilla, you're probably like, holy shit.
[1793] Yeah.
[1794] You know, when he's fighting dinosaurs and stuff, you'd be like, holy shit.
[1795] Yep.
[1796] It would be so much better than when you watch all those previews.
[1797] I heard the special effects are amazing on the new Godzilla, you know, but you go to see it and it's like, I've already seen it.
[1798] I know he's going to breathe fire out of his mouth.
[1799] I know what it looks like.
[1800] You've shown me. Yeah, it's, you know, my favorite trailers are the ones that just kind of give you a feeling of the world, and that's it.
[1801] Like, the new Joker trailer is sick.
[1802] Yes, perfect example.
[1803] It's great.
[1804] It's a piece of art unto itself, but it's not giving away a lot.
[1805] I mean, there's a lot of time.
[1806] You see a lot of shit, and you kind of get an idea, but not really.
[1807] It's a very artful trailer.
[1808] Yeah.
[1809] But you've got to have something.
[1810] Otherwise, people aren't going to go to your movie.
[1811] I know, that's the problem.
[1812] But remember Cloverfield?
[1813] Yeah.
[1814] When that came out, and like that weird, the ads that they would show, it just be like, and that's all you heard.
[1815] Yeah.
[1816] And you're like, what the fuck is this?
[1817] Those are weird movies, right?
[1818] Like those movies, like, this movie sucks because it was just filmed by people who were there.
[1819] Well, yeah, right.
[1820] Quality's terrible.
[1821] The camera's going to be shaky.
[1822] Yeah.
[1823] You're going to scream and drop the camera.
[1824] It's going to bounce and you're going to see like a shadow.
[1825] But that was kind of new back then, ish.
[1826] I mean, Blair Witch, you know, was kind of the starter of that.
[1827] Bro, Blair Witch freaked me out the first time I went to.
[1828] see it.
[1829] I went to see it with Chris McGuire, comedian Chris McGuire, and a couple folks that worked at the movie theater across the street, and they came to see us.
[1830] We were performing at the Houston laugh stop.
[1831] Okay.
[1832] And so we were talking to them before the show, and they're like, hey, we work at the movie theater.
[1833] I was like, oh, we're going to probably go there this weekend to see that Blair Witch movie.
[1834] And the dude was like, hey, I have the keys.
[1835] If you want, we can open it up tonight after the show.
[1836] I was like, what?
[1837] I was like, fuck, yeah.
[1838] So it was right across the street.
[1839] So me and McGuire, and I think there was like three of them that worked there, we all hung out and watched the Blair Witch together in a fucking empty movie theater.
[1840] They made popcorn and everything.
[1841] What?
[1842] Dude, they had the key to the place.
[1843] I mean, if their boss found out, there would be Fuxville.
[1844] Yeah, so don't share this.
[1845] Yeah, we're not telling anybody, but this is like 17, 18 years ago at the very, I mean, when did that movie come out?
[1846] As long as long as time ago.
[1847] 1999?
[1848] 99 yeah 99 so yeah 20 fucking years ago and we were at the Houston laugh stop that was awesome it was so cool what a great like flow of an event yeah yeah you have a dope -ass gig and then you're like oh fun yeah yeah it was fun yeah it was fun but that movie was like scared the shit out of you yeah it took me a while to get into because I remember dogma do you remember that that crew so they remember the celebration that had come out that was the first movie that I saw that was made all on you know because they had those rules like they only use natural light.
[1849] We only use DV cams, blah, blah, blah, blah.
[1850] And it was great.
[1851] It was interesting and weird and oh my God, that's kind of crazy.
[1852] And then Blair Witch came out and had that kind of vibe, but a little bit more curated, like narrative.
[1853] But I was like, I thought it was eerie, but I really didn't get scared until the very, very end.
[1854] Yeah.
[1855] When it's going down the stairs and then the flashlight is searching around and then sees that girl facing the corner.
[1856] Yeah.
[1857] That fucked me up.
[1858] Yes.
[1859] That one moment.
[1860] So the whole thing I was like, ah, it's pretty, you know, it's cool, it's creepy, okay, blah, blah, blah.
[1861] And then it just, that thing, I was like, fuck you.
[1862] It was a strong closer.
[1863] It was a real strong closer.
[1864] I mean, that's the way you go out.
[1865] Yeah.
[1866] That's the way you go out.
[1867] Isn't it interesting that we like movies that are on film, right?
[1868] We like that look.
[1869] Yeah, we do.
[1870] We like the things that are in the forefront and focus, but everything in the back is just like.
[1871] Yeah, blur and fuzzy.
[1872] That's true.
[1873] It's got this, like, quality thing to it.
[1874] Even though now we see videos that are very literal from phones all the time, we see that kind of imagery.
[1875] We still don't necessarily see, you wouldn't see that in a movie theater necessarily.
[1876] You're too distracted by all the outside images.
[1877] So, like, if you're talking to it, like, you and I are talking, I'm focusing on you.
[1878] I know there's some stuff over the left and some stuff over the right, but I'm not seeing it the same way I'm seeing you.
[1879] Yes.
[1880] Right.
[1881] That's one of the reasons why, like, when you interpret video.
[1882] video, like you visually interpret video, it's a very weird distortion, even though it's the most accurate representation.
[1883] Because you can't look at everything at the same time.
[1884] So if you look at a photograph and everything is in focus, what kind of, what are you using?
[1885] What are you using to see things with?
[1886] Because my eyes don't work like that.
[1887] Yeah.
[1888] My eyes are looking at you and everything around you.
[1889] Like, I know there's a clock right here, but dude, I can't even read what time it is.
[1890] It's right there.
[1891] I can't read it.
[1892] But now I can read it.
[1893] Right.
[1894] Yeah.
[1895] Okay.
[1896] You know, like this stuff that's just a few inches to your left or right.
[1897] And I, you know, literally can't see them.
[1898] Yes, it's just a tiny, tiny point that you're actually focusing on.
[1899] It's focus on right in front of these things, right in front of the face.
[1900] So that makes sense, like, for focus, it kind of replicates the way that, and it's also a storytelling mechanism, right?
[1901] Focus on this part, you know.
[1902] Yes, it definitely is that, yeah.
[1903] But it also, it's like, it looks cooler.
[1904] It just looks, yeah, it looks dope.
[1905] It looks pro, you know, it's a high -res.
[1906] Yeah, like a video camera, like a regular standard consumer -grade video camera, almost takes clear pictures.
[1907] Oh, for sure.
[1908] Yeah, it's like if you ever put your phone in time lapse mode, it looks like the way it tracks when you're moving it over objects, it's got a higher frame rate or something like that.
[1909] But it makes it look like that pan and scan shit, you know, when you're watching sports events or whatever.
[1910] And it just looks wrong.
[1911] Do you know what I mean?
[1912] Like it's too literal or something too, the way everything moves just feels slightly off.
[1913] Do you think that we're just accustomed to the way film looks And then if we were accustomed to the way video looks Then a film would be look clunky to us Like if everything started off as video And then they said, you know what It's not really good to have everything in focus Uh huh It's only good to have some things in focus And back away some things are blurry And then they come into focus And actually enhances the filmmaking Yes Right?
[1914] Like in a horror movie When something's blurry And then they zoom in on it And you see it's like a fucking monster hiding under the bed You're like, oh, no. You're like, that's not, I didn't want that to happen.
[1915] You've now just revealed exactly what I didn't want to see.
[1916] Yeah, no, I agreed.
[1917] Yeah, I don't know.
[1918] I mean, I don't know.
[1919] But I know that, you know, people like film.
[1920] I think it just looks, it's the texture of it.
[1921] But now people like DV.
[1922] Well, it's like people like vinyl, right?
[1923] There's people that are just die -hard vinyl fans.
[1924] They like that sound.
[1925] Yeah.
[1926] I mean, you know, I like, I like anything, you know, but I'd like to make sure that it's the best quality.
[1927] of it, or the most natural use case for it.
[1928] You know, it's like when people used to mix, when people started listening more to music in their car, that they could put a thing that they bought in their car with an eight track or whatever, or they used to have record players for cars too.
[1929] But, you know, the way that music sounded, they also had to consider the mix of car speakers.
[1930] What does it sound like on car speakers?
[1931] So going back to the oratones and the NS10s, and the standardized car speakers that people test audio in.
[1932] Right, and it's a different parameter, right?
[1933] Because you're stuck in this little contained metal box.
[1934] Yeah, yeah.
[1935] So you've got to figure out how to mix the music.
[1936] But generally, it's the sound system that has to be adjusted.
[1937] The sound systems have to, but you mix two.
[1938] They kind of meet each other in the middle, but great hi -fi systems.
[1939] Actually, it's a quick anecdote, but when I was in Seattle, I knew that I liked hi -fi systems, but I didn't know why they were so expensive.
[1940] And so I went into this place, this guy named Leland, who was working there.
[1941] I was kind of friends with him because I'd come in and I just scope gear all the time.
[1942] Just look at like, I love audio gear.
[1943] It's just really sweet.
[1944] And then one day it was towards the end when they were closing, and he turns to me and says, hey, man, do you want to get your brain fried?
[1945] And I was like, what?
[1946] What do you mean?
[1947] And he's like, stick around.
[1948] Like, okay.
[1949] And he closed shop.
[1950] A couple of his friends came in, closed the shop.
[1951] shop, it's like maybe five of us, went into the back room, smoked some marijuana, went into the show room, the main room where they have all the speakers and all the different types of units.
[1952] And he says, then he just kind of turns to us.
[1953] We all sit down the couch and he says, okay, you're going to listen to a, this is a system in total.
[1954] It costs about $150 ,000.
[1955] Whoa.
[1956] And then he just proceeds and goes through and explains all of the stages that, you know, that the current is going through and what the music is going through and what it's being played on all the cables that are being used, all this stuff.
[1957] And then I heard all of that, crazy speakers, like, okay, cool.
[1958] He lowers the lights, and he puts on a Bill Evans Trio record.
[1959] I can't remember which one.
[1960] And he just presses play, and we sit down, and, like, within probably 30 seconds, people were crying.
[1961] Wow.
[1962] And because it felt holographic.
[1963] It felt like you were in the room with those musicians that were playing right.
[1964] there for you and then I had the realization it's not the money it's not about the money it's about what does it take to engineer a machine that becomes invisible to the experience and that was that kind of blew my mind so whenever you're designing anything it's like you're designing the experience engineering should yeah should get the fuck out of the way what was the medium is it vinyl yeah what do you think like in your description.
[1965] What is different about vinyl?
[1966] Well, I mean, supposedly, if you have a really nice quality piece of vinyl, it's cut really well, you get as close to the original mastered recording experience, like coming out of the studio, if you're talking about older tape.
[1967] So whatever that final mix is, when someone plays it and they're like, it's been mastered, here's the stereo two track.
[1968] We're playing the stereo two track.
[1969] It's been mastered.
[1970] Excuse me, I'm a little weasy.
[1971] and that's what you hear.
[1972] You hear it in the best possible context on the speakers that it was mixed on.
[1973] Everything is optimal.
[1974] So essentially, when a record is pressed, if it can mimic the stereo two track, the master, which it does, then you have something that for at least the first, I don't know, vinyl people will say how many times, but a record starts to wear it down.
[1975] But if you have a fresh press, you can run it a bunch of times before it starts to degrade.
[1976] grade.
[1977] But in that state, you're hearing it like analog, super analog.
[1978] It's like as analog as how many times you think you play it before it starts to grade?
[1979] I don't know.
[1980] I guess it depends on the ears of the audio file, but there's probably an average.
[1981] I don't know what it would be maybe 60, 30, 40, 50 times.
[1982] Now, is there a digital format that at least comes close?
[1983] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, flak files.
[1984] What is that?
[1985] It's a file format.
[1986] Flack files are good.
[1987] Usually 128 96 kilohertz like that's there's like kind of a mastering digital mastering standard and that standard uh is is basically what that is what a record is so that's why you have like sites like HD tracks that I really dig you can get all your favorite out well not all it's not as big of a selection but you can get uh full resolution from like stereo two track master from the studio level quality in a digital format that you can buy and then put into a high -res player so i have a high -res player a high -fi player and it runs the has really nice circuitry and all that stuff and then use a really great pair of headphones and you've got the closest thing to a record that's repeatable infinite times and is the headphones the way to go or one of those crazy tower speaker jammies the way to go oh well it depends on your your use case like if you if you know if you're in a house and you want like a cool living room system or whatever I would always opt for speakers and not not sonos and not that kind of stuff people they dig it but um true I mean records are meant to be played off of two speakers with this it's a 2 .1 system unless it's specifically engineer which is very rare for like atmos or whatever the fuck but usually it's two speakers and a subwifers so why would I not want to hear the music the way it's supposed to sound right however I understand the convenience of those speakers so I'm not totally knocking it.
[1988] But for me, if you're going to get a system for your living room, if I can get a 2 .1 system.
[1989] Yeah, you want it played out the way, you want the sound to come at you the way it was recorded.
[1990] Yeah.
[1991] Otherwise, it changes the experience.
[1992] Yeah, completely.
[1993] The Sonos and those types of things, they fake stereo.
[1994] Henry Rollins was on the podcast, and he has this most preposterous setup in his house.
[1995] He is a gigantic audio file.
[1996] Oh, shit.
[1997] A massive lover of music.
[1998] Oh, my God.
[1999] And he collects all these albums, and he even runs a radio show.
[2000] Oh, I love his radio show.
[2001] It's dope.
[2002] It's on KCRW.
[2003] Fanatic.
[2004] These are the crazy fucking speakers he has in his house.
[2005] What the fuck?
[2006] And there's some...
[2007] What are those?
[2008] They're $200 ,000 is what they are.
[2009] Oh, I forget.
[2010] I have seen those.
[2011] I've seen pictures of that.
[2012] That's, who makes this?
[2013] Alexandria.
[2014] Alexandria, XLF is what they're called.
[2015] Okay.
[2016] Wilson, Alexandria.
[2017] How dope they look.
[2018] I mean, it's disgusting.
[2019] Look at those things.
[2020] You have to have their weapons.
[2021] You know, like, you have to have.
[2022] Pull back, we pull back so we can see with a full size of those things.
[2023] Like, look, what a weird looking piece of equipment.
[2024] I mean, it looks like.
[2025] Future robot.
[2026] Looks like an ATM machine, right?
[2027] Yeah, totally.
[2028] Or like a display screen robot.
[2029] Today we have here, swipe here for you.
[2030] Thank you for your business.
[2031] Goodbye.
[2032] So is the one that we're looking at on the right hand side?
[2033] Is that the back?
[2034] Yeah.
[2035] Wow, look at all that shit in there.
[2036] Shows the inputs.
[2037] I don't even know what the fuck on that stuff is.
[2038] They have discrete inputs for each of the frequency spectrums, the different speakers.
[2039] Oh, damn, some people go deep.
[2040] It's like everything, right?
[2041] Look at it.
[2042] That's what it looks like.
[2043] That's another one.
[2044] Look at that goddamn monsters thing.
[2045] I mean, it's beautiful.
[2046] I mean, audio is...
[2047] $200 ,000 for fucking speakers.
[2048] Look at that guy.
[2049] He's like, I have it all.
[2050] Yes, yes.
[2051] No one will vanquish my spirit.
[2052] Look at the fringe on my curtains.
[2053] I am Heinrich Orrins.
[2054] That's crazy, man. Yeah, well, there you go.
[2055] Henry Rollins.
[2056] Good sound system and a car is.
[2057] amazing too man because right you know you get like um a mark leavenson like i have a lexas that has a mark leavenson system in it yeah it's just like the whole thing's engineered for the shape of the inside of the car yes so it just rings out and all these perfect places it's it's tight one of my favorite places listening to music is a car and i was stoked to get my outy because i got the b and o system in there and i've never heard better audio i mean i've heard some dope as i think i have i think the tessley uses levenson stuff i'm not totally sure people haven't been able to figure out but they should have by now but I remember like five years ago trying to figure out like who what is the premium audio system like what is it besides a premium audience and I couldn't get an answer someone figured out what the amp was but they couldn't figure out the speakers or something that's interesting but but the Audi man bang and olson and I have some 18s at home there's a 2 .1 system and it just finally started it kicked in and now it sounds amazing I was like really kind of disappointed for a while yeah it's weird there's almost changed yeah there's like a burn in.
[2058] What?
[2059] I think there's a burn in.
[2060] I'm not sure.
[2061] Maybe it's totally psychological.
[2062] Maybe you got better weed.
[2063] Maybe I did get better weed.
[2064] I mean, what did you think of this weed by the way?
[2065] Fantastic.
[2066] It's pretty groovy, right?
[2067] Really good.
[2068] Yeah.
[2069] It's not weighing you down.
[2070] No, it's just a nice, friendly, like, you're fucking high, but like, uh, yeah, feel good.
[2071] It's good stuff.
[2072] It's not like, yeah, you're not freaking out.
[2073] I like it a lot.
[2074] What's it called again?
[2075] Purple what?
[2076] Uh, purple tund.
[2077] No, uh, purple, uh, purple, uh, purple, uh, purple, uh, purple, purple, uh, purple.
[2078] Brain.
[2079] Venom.
[2080] Venom.
[2081] Thank you.
[2082] Why does he know more than that?
[2083] James got a great bond.
[2084] I know.
[2085] The great brain.
[2086] That's awesome.
[2087] Purple venom.
[2088] Purple venom.
[2089] That's legit.
[2090] Wow, wow, wow.
[2091] Are these speakers you got?
[2092] Yeah.
[2093] And I have the browns, yeah.
[2094] And then there's like a subwifor that looks like an egg.
[2095] Yeah.
[2096] And they're great because I have my house kind of mid -century mod.
[2097] What's that mean?
[2098] Mid -century modern.
[2099] Oh.
[2100] That's me trying to.
[2101] I think it's hilarious.
[2102] It's the first time I think I've said it out loud.
[2103] So you sounded it yourself.
[2104] It's just like mid -sinch mod.
[2105] That's funny.
[2106] You're going to love this.
[2107] The curtains are provided for.
[2108] You'll notice that the overall layout is mid -sinch mod.
[2109] The only people I don't trust is when I go over their house and they have a minimalist set up, like where they have like plastic chairs that don't look if they have any cushion and a flat table with nothing on it and everything's small and there's nothing there.
[2110] I'm like, what are you doing?
[2111] Yeah.
[2112] What are you doing?
[2113] Do you show me your clean?
[2114] brain you're a fucking psychopath what's happening here where's the where's the soft surfaces where's a place to chill i you know i i i like what i dig is that mid cinch mod furniture yeah i don't even know what that is you know like um uh was it jule ven jule no jules uh i figure what is it's i think he's a swedish or danish architect or furniture designer fin jule that's it i think um and he makes these like you've seen these chairs before but the originals are just it's such a great work of art it's like sturdy comfy but light enough that there's like a bar in the back that's just made to grab and you can just throw it around but it's set up in a room it looks substantial and it looks comfortable but super lightweight their idea was like to be super modular really easy to move for company you know this is it right here that's not quite it I just typed in furniture oh yeah at Century Monarched first what was his name Finn Jewel Spell that.
[2115] F -I -N -N -N -J -L, maybe J -U -H -L.
[2116] Yeah, like that orange one.
[2117] Right there?
[2118] Yeah, that's like one design.
[2119] But that one has that extra thing.
[2120] That's not how mine are.
[2121] Mine are just like, it's just a back and no arms, but the same shape.
[2122] And you sit in them and they're just great.
[2123] They're like firm but comfortable.
[2124] Like you feel active, like you could get out of it if you needed to.
[2125] That right there?
[2126] No. What does it say at the top?
[2127] That's this shit.
[2128] Finn F -I -N -J -U -H -L.
[2129] Maybe try classic or something like that.
[2130] It's cool -looking stuff, though.
[2131] Yeah, it's...
[2132] I wonder if they'll have that classic chair.
[2133] Look at the grasshopper chair.
[2134] Yeah.
[2135] It's so weird when you have a chair that's that low to the ground.
[2136] That's too low.
[2137] Mine are not like that.
[2138] The good thing is you can keep your feet in front of you.
[2139] Yeah, like the...
[2140] Stretch your legs out.
[2141] Like that 109 chair, like that kind of stuff.
[2142] So it's like normal chair height.
[2143] but it's beautifully designed but it's minimal and for my living room like I like I like move my furniture and if people wanted to dance or whatever we can just do that and you don't have to be oh fuck you know I'm gonna need help like one person could literally grab both chairs and move right and you don't have some bullshit sitting there that could break yeah yeah yeah careful yeah totally hey guys don't go near the end table guys I'm really sorry about that hey easy easy hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey Eric rock and roll music's got everybody crazy she Jesus, Eric.
[2144] These fancies pickers.
[2145] I told you the Beath a chill -out mixes only.
[2146] Yeah, you need a chill -out mix for late night.
[2147] Or like really groovy, Jobeam stuff, you know.
[2148] It's like Brazilian Basanova.
[2149] What are your thoughts on, like, streaming services?
[2150] Like music, like title and stuff like that?
[2151] Well, things like Spotify and Pandora, these Apple Music, these streaming services.
[2152] I think they're convenient, but I don't quite trust the quality.
[2153] yet, and I have a lot invested in iTunes, but I started using title only because it's the less, that seems to be the least popular of all the streaming services, but it's Jay -Z's company, and not that I'm like a Jay -Z fan, I just like that it's owned by an artist, and that they focus on super high -end codex for their streaming, so it's like the highest quality possible for streaming since then Spotify claims to have it i don't think apple does it yet anyways but i like i like the titles so i mean i guess the idea being as long as it's fair for the the artist you know the deal for streaming and how streaming is calculated and how that turns into revenue for on the revenue side of things uh that's really that's the biggest concern it's the revenue side of things because it seems like that's where's a this whole thing was like the wild wild west when it got started and the the the way the parameters were established is It's not in favor of the artist.
[2154] It's in favor of the people that run the streaming companies.
[2155] They're the ones who make the substantial profits.
[2156] Yes, absolutely.
[2157] Yeah, the companies do.
[2158] But all they have is the work of artists.
[2159] I know.
[2160] Which is why it's so crazy that they make most of the money because they provide a platform.
[2161] All they have is, you don't sell shit without artists.
[2162] If every artist is like, nah, fuck you, then you don't have anything.
[2163] Yeah, you have nothing.
[2164] You don't sell anything.
[2165] Yep.
[2166] Like, you're selling tomatoes and you don't even grow them.
[2167] Yeah.
[2168] And you want most of the money.
[2169] Like, if you were.
[2170] tomato store and you got your tomato from a farmer and the farmer to do all this fucking work to make the tomatoes and they sold them at your store but you got almost all the money yeah that's crazy i know it's totally crazy it doesn't make any sense and then you couldn't grow tomatoes with any other farmer for the next 10 years afterwards oh yeah that's right yeah because they tie you up yeah yeah you have to make commercials about these tomatoes but you have to pay for them now they know it all comes out of your profit not ours yeah fuck that it's crazy it's all about it's all about direct economy you know what i mean like that's that's the way that's where we are now i think yeah i think that's where we're where we are where we're headed i think that's definitely i don't you know i i can barely that's why i want to kind of do my own streaming stuff like that i don't want to be in tied up into uh with another company that utilizes behavioral statistical data to increase their algorithms for targeted advertising like that's not really interesting to me yeah i think would a guy like you too just build it and they will come you know and then advertisers who resonate with your sort of mindset, they'll find you.
[2171] There's plenty of cool CBD brands and fill in the blank of cool companies that'd be more than happy to advertise on something that you'd have a guaranteed audience of a certain kind of people.
[2172] Yes.
[2173] Oh, totally.
[2174] Totally.
[2175] I think it's great.
[2176] And I think also just having a direct store too.
[2177] I just love the idea of like, whatever I make, it's just sold to the store.
[2178] And like, you're just paying me and I'm getting it and you're getting the thing.
[2179] And that's it.
[2180] Yeah, I mean, you've worked for a bunch of different companies before done things.
[2181] It's like, it can be great.
[2182] You can work with a bunch of wonderful people.
[2183] Or it can be a disaster.
[2184] You got some time suck in the middle of the fucking mix, and they just demand too much attention.
[2185] There's too much conflict and nonsense and interpersonal drama.
[2186] And sometimes people start fucking.
[2187] Oh, yes.
[2188] People that work together start fucking.
[2189] And then you have to hear the opinions of both of them while you pretend that you don't know that they're fucking.
[2190] that this is weighing heavily on the way they're communicating with everybody else like oh yeah that's supporting each other and you're supposed to support them too now their relationship has become center stage in your office that's like one of the reasons why people don't want office romances not even just because women don't want to be harassed by men that are trying to fuck them all the time so just say no one can do it but also because once a relationship does happen one of two things either it'll go great yeah either it'll go great and everyone's going to be part of it so your relationship becomes a part of the whole ecosystem of the office or it'll go terrible and people have to pick sides and or one of you has to leave yeah like so or that you do you if you're amongst the most miraculous people you have a amicable split and you become really good friends afterwards you still work together with no problems even like each other's spouses yeah right it's possible it is possible it's happened I'm sure it's happened Yes, but much, much more rare If I was running a company I'd be like, listen, you guys can't bang each other I know it sounds gross I know that you're here all day But the problem is like what if you met The girl of your dreams on a job That was your dream job You're like shit What do you do?
[2191] You have to make the decision This is like a fucking Jennifer Lopez movie Right?
[2192] Yeah, totally like two It's called Too Successful I don't give a fuck about this job, Jennifer I want to be with you Don't Don't play the music It's like, no, you don't have to quit.
[2193] I'll quit.
[2194] No. Fuck this.
[2195] But I've got to quit.
[2196] No, you can't.
[2197] And then they decided to start their own firm.
[2198] Yeah.
[2199] If it was a real chick movie, the girl would have like the smaller paycheck, too.
[2200] And the guy would lose the bigger paycheck.
[2201] And he would come, she would come home from work and he would be wearing a fucking, like, like an apron.
[2202] And he would be mopping.
[2203] Yes.
[2204] That would be great.
[2205] Well, I guess I guess I should get used to it.
[2206] Like, that's how it is.
[2207] It is my life now.
[2208] I fell in love The perfect job I gave up my perfect job For the perfect woman Yeah Yeah That would suck If you had the dream job But you met a girl there She was single And she was into you And you're both into each other And you're like God damn it What do you do?
[2209] You start banging And don't tell anybody That's what you do right Probably Or if you're like super pro And super committed You'd just figure out a way Not to And just kind of Maybe come up With an agreement Or something I don't know Plot your exit Yes You gotta plot your exit Always know your exits While you're lying About banging each other Yes Yeah you gotta lie Gotta lie and say Yeah we're gonna I'm going to the movies Tonight with my friend Melissa Meanwhile you're going Toad's house For some dick That sucks Such a terrible way to live Guys Don't do it It's not worth it But the most terrible It's probably living in the closet That's probably the most terrible That's probably the most It's a super unnecessary one I think Yeah Well in some case It's not an all Yeah Yeah, well, it's also like it's symbolic of, you know, we all have things in a closet.
[2210] I mean, that's like a pretty big level that's noticeable by many, many people.
[2211] But in a way, it is a metaphor for, like, there are a lot of things that we don't allow ourselves to, like, let people know about.
[2212] Well, especially in the corporate world, right?
[2213] You're forced to present a, air quotes, professional image, and this enhances your ability to earn a living.
[2214] and enhances your ability to be successful inside that corporate structure.
[2215] So you literally have to play a role all the time, which is why if you talk to women who are dominatrixes, one of the things that they say is the guys who really like to get kicking the balls and shit on are the guys who run businesses.
[2216] The guys who are like...
[2217] Yeah, they need to feel it.
[2218] Yeah, they need to feel alive.
[2219] They need a kicking the balls.
[2220] They need someone pissing in their mouth.
[2221] They need to get smacked.
[2222] They want to get crazy because they're so buttoned down all day long that can barely take it.
[2223] God, that's...
[2224] You're so lucky, Reggie.
[2225] You're so lucky, son of a bitch.
[2226] I love it.
[2227] Someone's in a cubicle right now.
[2228] Mad at you.
[2229] Fuck him.
[2230] No, man. You guys can live your dreams.
[2231] I mean, I don't know.
[2232] I mean, it's...
[2233] Harassing people about credit card loans.
[2234] Yeah.
[2235] I know.
[2236] Well, you know, we could be...
[2237] More of us could be more creative, but we're not really designing there's a society to support that.
[2238] Yeah, you and I can't fix the streets.
[2239] We can't fix the streets.
[2240] No, but we can inspire people to fix the streets?
[2241] Yeah.
[2242] Of course.
[2243] I mean, you know, sometimes it just takes a little kick in the, in the yardbles.
[2244] Like, I was having a conversation with my friend the other day.
[2245] We were saying, he was saying, you know, you kind of really need all kinds of people because there's all kinds of jobs that you don't want to do.
[2246] And I was like, yeah, we're having a problem with our exterminator.
[2247] And I'm like, but like, could you imagine a dude who's really cool who's into killing rats?
[2248] Like, that's what he does for a living.
[2249] He just fucks rats up.
[2250] That's this whole deal.
[2251] He kills rats.
[2252] I know.
[2253] I know.
[2254] There are people that just sort certain types of screws on an assembly line.
[2255] All day long.
[2256] That's what they do.
[2257] Someone needs to do that.
[2258] Otherwise, it's not going to get done.
[2259] Well, you know, I mean, theoretically, you know, robotics is when people fear, like, robotics taking over jobs and things like that.
[2260] Theoretically, the positive side of that is if society is organized themselves in a way that ensures that people remain productive aside from these automations because it's taking away the menial tasks, the repetitive tasks.
[2261] Bullshit jobs.
[2262] And then we were able to allocate more brain.
[2263] power to the economy, if that's the way it's viewed, it's rad.
[2264] I think it's a welcome thing.
[2265] And I think, yeah, there's fear of the unknown and things like that.
[2266] But if the government helps or, you know, there's a transition that's at least considered, it could be really, really beneficial.
[2267] Well, how do you feel about things like universal basic income?
[2268] How do you feel about that?
[2269] I mean, that's, because that's what people are going to need.
[2270] If we get to a point where millions of jobs to vanish overnight because of automation, which could happen.
[2271] You're looking at a, I mean, I don't know what I'm talking about, but if I did, I would say you'd look at a nationwide version of what happened in Detroit when the auto industry backed out.
[2272] Well, yeah, I mean, I don't know.
[2273] I mean, I don't know, like, the universal, I mean, it kind of makes sense, but I also don't know about the successful models and the non -successful implementations because obviously with societies, it becomes a lot more complicated because it's people and people are complicated.
[2274] And so when you say there's universal income for, there's a base amount that everybody will have, they don't have to worry about certain things, right?
[2275] Well, transitioning out of the current state, the mind state that we're in, some people are just going to try to blow it, you know, all.
[2276] And then they'll go into debt.
[2277] And then, you know, maybe.
[2278] Or maybe you design the system to be really foolproof.
[2279] And it's just a commodities base.
[2280] So people can only get the value that they're guaranteed as, uh, you know, rent being paid, actual food, you know, actual things.
[2281] So they don't have access to the money.
[2282] I don't know.
[2283] If you don't give them access to the money, you don't give them adequate choices in terms of where they can get their food.
[2284] Like, I'm not in favor of that because if you had like a government place where they had groceries, you can go get your groceries for free, that place is going to be disgusting.
[2285] It's not going to be whole, because there's no competition.
[2286] You know what I'm saying?
[2287] Yeah.
[2288] Well, maybe, there's no incentive for excellence.
[2289] Well, maybe if it was like a, you know, some kind of a card or something associated like an apple pay type thing so you just you go to whatever store you want to similar to like a welfare card or food stamp yeah like food stamps yeah exactly but a little bit more framed differently right like you'd have an account with the government where every month you've get like a thousand dollars cash and five hundred dollars in food yeah like maybe something like yeah and then there rewards for like you know moving out of that like phasing out of that right i think the way andrew yang has it structured you would get everyone would get it you could opt out of it like say if you were doing well like yourself like you could opt out of it oh that's cool yeah i like that i do like the everything thing because as soon as you just you make something specifically for a certain population especially when you're talking about that type of thing it it's not it doesn't it doesn't work i mean conceptually it's just better when everyone knows like oh you have it i have it there's something that binds all of us that we're all in common obviously this billionaire doesn't need it but there's just a precedent for people that make a certain amount of money.
[2290] They're suggested to, like, you know, offset that, like, put it back into the system so there's more money for people that need it, whatever.
[2291] But I think, like, saying it's for everybody is kind of a smart thing to do.
[2292] I like that everything.
[2293] Yeah, the idea is that you have equity in the corporation that is the United States of America.
[2294] Oh, that's interesting.
[2295] Yeah.
[2296] That's weird.
[2297] Particularly if you're thinking about natural resources, like, when you imagine the enormous profits that someone gets from natural resources, like the idea that you own the oil that's under the ground like is who's decided that like why have we decided that you can go a mile off the ocean stick a fucking tube into the ground suck out all the oil and make a trillion dollars like who said who said you could do that that's not even your ground yeah so the what the government is giving a license to BP and BP drills holes a mile offshore and then they suck all the oil out and they make billions and who's getting that money and how much does the government get and how much is a BP paying for that contract and why doesn't that money go to the people that live in the country because if the people live in the country the country is the corporation the corporation is the one that owns this water yeah they're the ones us so the idea would be that you would we would all profit from it and they would make substantially less than they make now and then instead of these people making billions and billions of dollars for something that's not even theirs yeah like that profit would be split evenly around the country in terms of infrastructure and replenishing impoverished communities and community centers and trying to figure out a way to engineer out all the horrific neighborhoods use the natural resources yes I mean that would be wonderful like they've had to pay some people for fracking they've had to pay some people off because they just ruin their their neighborhood like there's people that live in a place that's like fully toxic now yes What do you got, Jamie?
[2298] I saw this the other day.
[2299] This is from the original spill in 2004.
[2300] It's been going on consistently.
[2301] Oh, yeah, it's still leaking.
[2302] They said the 14 -year -old Gulf oil spill is leaking up to 4 ,500 gallons a day.
[2303] They found out it was many, many times more oil was leaking out than they thought it was.
[2304] So that's still, that's going into the ocean right now from that stupid oil pipeline.
[2305] Yeah.
[2306] The quicker that someone figures out, an alternative energy.
[2307] That's kind of what I'm saying It's like it needs to happen This is ridiculous It's just it's everyone's doing the easy thing right now And it's just feeding the again The the capitalist Machine is just like No that's okay That's acceptable But you and I have righteous virtue Because we drive electric vehicles occasionally That's true I do feel a little bit better I feel better than people When I drive my Tesla Hmm you assholes Yeah They're poisoning the world You know I feel I only feel better Driving my Tesla flet only in that it's just faster it's just faster than almost everything on the road yeah it's like time machine that's that's exactly what i call it i always say like if if there's a location that i want to go to i appear there yeah i don't just go zoom you're over there you're just like and you have that p100 d which is the one i have which is the two engine one it's crazy and it's meanwhile that fucking new thing that they're coming out with that the roaster i really want to get one half a second fast or zero to sixty yeah it's how well one one point nine one point eight theoretically one point eight seconds zero to six i think he's changed his uh his take on that i think he recently said it's two point one oh you serious yes okay people were very disappointed i'm very disappointed because you got to break the two barrier what kind of nonsense is this i know where's my point where's my tenth of a second it ain't going to matter kids the fucking thing's ridiculous i'm kidding it's just a fucking weapon yeah it's it's it's insane but it also has 600 mile range yes that's what i heard which is just insane to me. I just love that it's a tinier car.
[2308] It's like the fastest thing ever.
[2309] Ever.
[2310] There's only going to be maybe three other road legal cars that you could buy that would get to that level of a 1 .9.
[2311] Supercars are going to look obsolete compared to that thing.
[2312] Oh, yeah.
[2313] I mean, well, the thing I'm excited about is the Penn and Farina electric car.
[2314] Ooh.
[2315] What is that?
[2316] That's all designed completely in -house.
[2317] And I don't know when it comes out, but I don't know if you find a picture.
[2318] It is the nastiest piece of tech.
[2319] Don't let the Italians make the engine, though.
[2320] Trust me. Yeah, I don't think so.
[2321] I think they're leveraging.
[2322] not let my people design things.
[2323] You let them design the way it looks, but all the wires, they're barely paying attention.
[2324] They're standing at girls' asses, eating spaghetti.
[2325] I guarantee you.
[2326] That's so funny.
[2327] That's so true.
[2328] Like, Germans and Japanese make reliable cars.
[2329] Yes.
[2330] They make their engineers.
[2331] Oh, there is.
[2332] Whoa.
[2333] Damn.
[2334] That is a goddamn Batmobile.
[2335] Yeah, she'd be nasty.
[2336] Wow, that's a real car?
[2337] Oh, yeah.
[2338] When's that coming out?
[2339] I think orders are happening.
[2340] There you go.
[2341] 2 .5 million.
[2342] Jesus Christ.
[2343] Yeah, active.
[2344] Where's all this money coming from?
[2345] Active arrows.
[2346] How many shakes are there?
[2347] I mean, come on.
[2348] Look at that thing.
[2349] Look at that fucking thing.
[2350] And it borrows a little bit of like Ferrari La Ferrari.
[2351] It has a little bit of Japanese styling.
[2352] It has a, it's the perfect blend of like all the good things about like tech looking cars.
[2353] You know what it's like?
[2354] It's like a Ferrari 488.
[2355] Yes.
[2356] But one that fucked...
[2357] 1900 horseback.
[2358] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[2359] That's...
[2360] Yeah, I got that...
[2361] 1 ,900 horse power.
[2362] How many Newton pounds of torque?
[2363] Oh, I don't know what I was to say.
[2364] Whenever they say that, Newton meters...
[2365] I don't get it.
[2366] Those European ones, I'm like, what are you saying?
[2367] I don't feel it.
[2368] All I know is what is high, and then I base it off of that.
[2369] It's funny, too, that we still use horses.
[2370] I know.
[2371] How stupid is that?
[2372] Look at that.
[2373] See?
[2374] We use people power.
[2375] Less than two seconds.
[2376] So that's like the, but it's an electric vehicle.
[2377] And I'm sure, um, Bighton has one coming out that looks really cool.
[2378] It goes 180 miles an hour, 186 miles an hour in 12 seconds, said.
[2379] Jesus Christ.
[2380] So 12 seconds later, you're going 186 miles an hour.
[2381] Is that real?
[2382] Look at that control cockpit.
[2383] That's what I like about cars like that.
[2384] Well, it better look amazing.
[2385] It's a fucking house in the hills.
[2386] You know what?
[2387] It's a house in the hills.
[2388] I'd get it.
[2389] Wow.
[2390] If I could, I'd get it.
[2391] Would you?
[2392] Oh, yeah.
[2393] easily i definitely want to get the roads i'm thinking about the roadster i'm getting that you got to man got to got to i mean it's not that i mean for 250 grand no you're getting a car that like that's that's a what is that what was it again what do you keep showing us jamie you just flip into you know i'm paying attention now check out he's jamesmy's on a rabbit hole he went down to youtube i don't see what lotus was doing it was the other one was that pull the rimack robster put oh yeah that that thing's badass what is the other one remack concept two oh i don't know It's a, I think there is stone.
[2394] The door handle for the roadster.
[2395] Oh, yeah, yeah, you slide your finger down.
[2396] What?
[2397] I mean, who knows?
[2398] Oh, that's going to leave you stranded in the park.
[2399] And it's not, it's not using that steering wheel.
[2400] I don't know why they do that.
[2401] They do that for concept cars.
[2402] They know side view mirrors, which now is actually becoming legal, which is great.
[2403] Why would they have no side view mirrors?
[2404] Because it looks sexier.
[2405] But so what?
[2406] It looks more sleek.
[2407] Does it really bother you?
[2408] That's like if you're a dude and a girl's really hot, but she has a chip tooth.
[2409] Oh, no, no, no. That makes it better.
[2410] that's like that's character man that's beautiful so why do you need uh why don't you want side mirrors well see it just creates a cleaner line fuck a clean line i want to see what's going on well have you die i want to see what's behind me man well the new honda all electric car that's basically kind of like a like a golf kind of an e -golf but it's a fully new car it's got uh it's got the camera system with the side view mirrors they're just right on the edge of the dash right where the mirrors kind of would be and the guy the guy who was doing a review of it one of the a few guys who's gotten to drive it, said that it just blows you away.
[2411] You're like, why have a car has been like this forever?
[2412] Because it gives you an accurate full -time view of what's going on.
[2413] And the rear -view mirror is also a screen.
[2414] Maybe that's what the Tesla's doing.
[2415] No pillars.
[2416] No, what are you laughing?
[2417] You're going to make fun of this car.
[2418] Why am I making fun of them?
[2419] No, go back to the Hess.
[2420] Look at this.
[2421] What's doing some Honda.
[2422] That's cute.
[2423] E. Go back to the Tesla.
[2424] It's also got the most ridiculous turning radius.
[2425] It turns tight.
[2426] than a London cab yeah because it's got a stick in the ground yeah just it just plants a pole in the ground and then it just rotates yeah yeah the roadsters is evil I don't think it's really gonna come out in 2020 I don't think so either I think it's gonna get pushed back yeah but it's just such a gorgeous it does have some active arrow I think in the the spoilers active it's just cool looking it looks like what a car supposed to look like in 2020 exactly yes reggie watts let's wrap this bad way up let's do it um people want to to follow you on social media is that possible only if they want to and it's it um uh reggie watts at twitter and uh instagram it's reggie watts and sometimes reggie watts dot com that's about it we got to do this more often for real i really enjoy it yeah it's so much fun such a cool journey man really fun really fun and thanks for the awesome weed purple venom of course on point young jamie salutes goodbye everybody Good, man.