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[0] This is exactly right.
[1] Hey, this is exciting.
[2] An all -new season of only murders in the building is coming to Hulu on August 27th.
[3] Steve Martin, Martin Short, and Selena Gomez are back as your favorite podcaster, detectives.
[4] But there's a mystery hanging over everyone.
[5] Who killed Saz?
[6] And were they really after Charles?
[7] Why would someone want to kill Charles?
[8] This season, murder hits close to home.
[9] With a threat against one of their own, the stakes are higher than ever.
[10] Plus, the gang is going to Hollywood to turn their podcast into a major movie.
[11] Amid the glitz and glamour of Los Angeles, more mysteries and twists arise.
[12] Who knows what will happen once the cameras start to roll?
[13] Get ready for the stariest season yet with Merrill Streep, Zach Alfinacus, Eugene Levy, Eva Longoria, Melissa McCarthy, DeVine, Joy Randolph, Molly Shannon, and more.
[14] Only Martyrs in the building, premieres August 27th, streaming only on Hulu.
[15] Goodbye.
[16] piano in the background, gonna...
[17] It's just going to add class.
[18] That's true.
[19] We are now a highly produced podcast.
[20] podcast, and we have a soundtrack and music in the background.
[21] PBS picked us up for five episodes.
[22] We can't curse anymore, but we can wear turtlenecks, and I think that's what's important.
[23] And we're no longer talking about murder.
[24] We're now talking about civic responsibility.
[25] There you go.
[26] That's right.
[27] So, please donate to PBS.
[28] Click, click, click, click, click, click, click, podcast machines all over the United States.
[29] I love that idea.
[30] That there would be podcast machines?
[31] Yes.
[32] but also that, like, you trick someone into giving money to a cause that, like, you're not actually working for.
[33] Like, I love PBS.
[34] And if people give money to PBS, they'd be super happy about it.
[35] You should give money to PBS because that's the reason I get to watch Father Brown.
[36] It's why I get to watch Vera.
[37] All my British Procedurals are on PBS.
[38] British Procedure...
[39] Nope, I can't say that one.
[40] You can.
[41] You try it again.
[42] British Procedurals.
[43] There it is.
[44] Yeah.
[45] You just needed to put your hands down on the couch like that.
[46] I held myself.
[47] Balance yourself.
[48] Yeah.
[49] PBS is a lot of great history shit and fucking Antiques Roadshow, dude.
[50] Oh, dude, British antiques.
[51] Now I know I have a serious anglophile problem, but the difference between British Antiques Roto and American, because when they reveal the price, they build it up and build it up.
[52] Goodness.
[53] Where they're like, this is a fucking 85 ,000 pounds.
[54] And they're like, oh my, I didn't expect it.
[55] On the American one, they're like, it's beautiful.
[56] It's actually a remake.
[57] So it's probably worth between 80, hundred and a thousand dollars and people are like oh like overtly angry that they're not millionaires immediately because of their dumb vase because they've been going to fucking garage sales for 20 years just buying shit and hoping it's worth money yeah and meanwhile in england they're like oh this is this is the original stonehenge and they're just like my oh my i have to thank my aunt i bought it at a found which in my aunt's uh attic and i addict she'll be quite proud yeah everyone's I'll never sell.
[58] That's when I lose my mind.
[59] I'll never sell it.
[60] I'll never sell it.
[61] It means too much to us for us to be rich.
[62] Go to a cost plus world market, buy a fucking fake one, sell that motherfucker, like, retire.
[63] USA, USA.
[64] I'm a, I am a financial advisor.
[65] American style.
[66] Hi.
[67] I totally didn't know.
[68] Do you know?
[69] What is this?
[70] This is a Minnesota of my favorite murder.
[71] So this is just when we read All the many amazing hometown murders You guys send us that we love So much, send yours to my favorite murder At Gmail And dot com Dot com Not go Don't forget Yeah, well now it's dot PBS Uh You go first Do you want me to?
[72] Sure Did you say you go first?
[73] I said kind of like Joanna go first Like in a Joanna Joanna man, that great film Yeah Okay Here's my first one.
[74] And I will admit the part of the reason I picked this one is because the woman who sent it, her first name is Zeandra.
[75] Hell yeah.
[76] With a name like Zeandra.
[77] I can spell that.
[78] You know it's going to be a good email.
[79] Z, E -A -N -D -R -A.
[80] So I'm all about it.
[81] Your first name serves the Z. You've had a rich and storied life, I'm sure.
[82] Home run.
[83] Home run.
[84] And then, the subject line is asshole murder's wife and buries her in his trash pit, psychic daughter finds her.
[85] Say that again.
[86] Asshole murders wife and buries her in his trash pit.
[87] Psychic daughter finds her.
[88] Everything about that.
[89] Everything, Zandra.
[90] You're batting a thousand.
[91] We haven't even gotten into the body of...
[92] The whole email's blank and we don't even care.
[93] That's weird.
[94] It's a picture of a bunch of hot air balloons.
[95] Oh, well.
[96] Thanks, Sandra.
[97] Okay, it says, Hi, ladies.
[98] First of all, keep up the great work.
[99] We will.
[100] I love to listen to your crime podcasts.
[101] and my husband thinks I'm a little crazy and refuses to listen to me talk about the crimes because I always accidentally go a little too in depth.
[102] Yay!
[103] You've come to the right place.
[104] We relate to you.
[105] Go to our Facebook page.
[106] Everyone there will relate to you to.
[107] Yeah.
[108] So it's so great to listen to you to talk about it like it's totally okay and fine.
[109] So thanks.
[110] Hey, if Chris Morrison can do it, why can't we?
[111] Yeah.
[112] Come on.
[113] Just because he leans on things really well.
[114] Just because he has the narrowest nose of all time.
[115] And let's say the fucking loveliest head of silver hair.
[116] No, let's give him that credit.
[117] Yeah.
[118] He deserves it.
[119] Totally.
[120] Is it Chris Morris or Chris Morrison?
[121] It's Keith Morrison.
[122] It's Keith Morrison.
[123] I'm thinking of Jim Morrison.
[124] Is this a good point?
[125] Is this a good moment to tell everyone that if you want fucking facts, you've come to the right place.
[126] Please go elsewhere.
[127] Go to pbs .com.
[128] You want fucking facts.
[129] stuff you learned in history is where you get back.
[130] That's right.
[131] There's so many great podcasts that are reliable.
[132] Okay.
[133] It's not this one of them.
[134] Okay.
[135] Now to the interesting part, and she's spelled this out with so many ours, the murder.
[136] This is not a murder from my hometown hometown, but it's a murder that happened in my family.
[137] So maybe that counts.
[138] Zandra, that counts more than a hometown murder.
[139] I think we should make a clear because we get a lot of these.
[140] hometown meaning the place you live now the place you lived before your family like hometown is in quotes it's the one where when you that it's the one you know the most about because you were kind of around it at some point in your life whatever that means it affected you because it was so close we're not strict about stuff like that not anything now if the murder happened in your family we should actually set up like a red phone for that kind of stuff because that's firsthand that's what i like it's a great idea all right anyway the murder the murder takes place in Eunice, New Mexico.
[141] A New Mexico murder.
[142] That's new.
[143] We haven't done that yet.
[144] Mexico.
[145] The victim was my grandfather's sister, so your great aunt.
[146] She had caught her husband having sex with his sister.
[147] His sister?
[148] Uh -huh.
[149] And his sister's husband and divorced him.
[150] Wait.
[151] Oh, I thought she was going to murder them all.
[152] Hold on.
[153] She had caught her husband having sex with his sister and his sister.
[154] husband and divorced him.
[155] Okay.
[156] Some polyamory in New Mexico.
[157] Polyamory and incest.
[158] Yeah, there's so many things.
[159] I feel like that polyamory is the thing that stuck out to you.
[160] I know.
[161] Well, I watch a lot of Game of Thrones, so I'm very...
[162] Nothing fazes you with that.
[163] I'm almost in support.
[164] No, I won't say that.
[165] She had moved away from him to live with her daughter in Levaland, Texas, but she traveled back to New Mexico to day a night with her ex -husband and would accompany him the next day to Mexico to get dental work done.
[166] Uh -oh.
[167] Bitch is going to get killed.
[168] I'm sorry, called her a bitch.
[169] Girl, there's this story now turned into a choose -your -own adventure.
[170] What's going to happen?
[171] I don't, there's only one answer.
[172] She's going to get murdered by a Mexican dentist?
[173] Okay, here we go.
[174] The second answer.
[175] There's only one answer except for all the other ones that we can think of.
[176] according to the children but oh okay this is in parentheses the dental work story is according to the children but was possibly just a story to lure her to him the night he told their son who was living with him that he couldn't sleep at the house that night and to find a different place to stay the next day he had a son come home and fill in the trash pit that he had in the backyard using the backhoe and told the son and the two daughters that their mother had found a female trucker to drive to Arizona with and that she had just called from the truck stop and was doing well.
[177] I can't breathe.
[178] One of the daughters, however, is a little psychic.
[179] I know this sounds crazy, but our family is kind of crazy and like no one in the family seems to dispute this because she's never been wrong.
[180] She's not psychic.
[181] She just can tell that when someone's filling in a pit, the mom is missing, all this crazy issue is happening.
[182] They killed the motherfucking mom.
[183] I believe she's psychic.
[184] Okay.
[185] I believe in it.
[186] I'm a believer.
[187] So, there's a lot of run -on sentences here.
[188] So wait.
[189] Okay, so one of the daughters, however, is a little psychic.
[190] We said the thing about the family.
[191] Got it.
[192] And knew that their mother was in the trash pit.
[193] Well, yeah, no, yeah, you're right.
[194] You know what I mean?
[195] Yeah, you don't just...
[196] How does anyone not question that?
[197] I bet the psychic sister was a murderer now.
[198] It was like, I've read about this a hundred times.
[199] When a trash pit shows up in your...
[200] backyard overnight, not over the weekend, overnight.
[201] And it needs to be filled immediately.
[202] And your dad's a creep.
[203] Mom is gone.
[204] Yeah.
[205] Also, I feel like that little detail of a female trucker is suspicious that he had to say that.
[206] It almost seems like she's okay.
[207] She's okay.
[208] You know, like convincing someone she's okay.
[209] And also, you know, they say, you can tell someone's lying if they give you too many details.
[210] Totally.
[211] So it's like if someone says, oh, sorry I'm late, there's weird traffic.
[212] But if someone's like, oh my God, it was coming over the hill, which is what I do every time I'm lying.
[213] You can totally tell I'm lying.
[214] You never have to lie to me about being late.
[215] I don't think, yeah.
[216] I'm like, okay.
[217] Yes, that totally makes sense.
[218] Well, just because I've been late on you so many times that you just know.
[219] On you to it.
[220] Do you love me?
[221] My friend.
[222] I love you too.
[223] Wait, now I'm going to lose my place in the story.
[224] Yeah.
[225] Too much information.
[226] Back to Zandra.
[227] Yeah, you're it.
[228] Okay.
[229] So, mm -hmm.
[230] One of the, okay, the daughter's second.
[231] Trash pit.
[232] Okay.
[233] So she had her brother go back out there with the back out, oh, and dig it up.
[234] After just digging up nothing but trash for a while, he wanted to give up, but she said, no, just do one more scoop right there.
[235] And with that scoop came his mother's leg.
[236] She was found in the trash pit with a plastic bag over her head and her purse with all its contents next to her.
[237] The autopsy found that she had been made unconscious using ether, My dad says he used carburetor cleaner on a rag and then buried her alive under eight feet of trash and dirt.
[238] She died without regaining consciousness because the weight of the trash and dirt made it so she couldn't breathe.
[239] At least she didn't wake up, I mean, Jesus Christ.
[240] Agreed, but it's like such a small, what's it called?
[241] Plus.
[242] Oh, yeah.
[243] Oh, my God.
[244] Yeah, we're really, we're digging deep.
[245] You don't even have the decency to kill her.
[246] Do you know what I mean?
[247] Is that fucked up to me to say?
[248] right like well he pussed out yeah like you we just do that that's also a bad thing to say but no totally like well I think he's such a piece of shit yeah it's yeah because well he he made it so she the possibility of her suffering was max it's maximum suffering totally okay so she says this is a horrible story but I think the worst part is that the murderer has since told his children how much he enjoys being in prison because he can nap whenever he wants watch TV has his meals prepared for him etc. And that is just so disgusting to me that he could bury his ex -wife alive and then actually enjoy his punishment.
[249] You know what's the under though?
[250] I think he's bullshitting.
[251] I think he's full shit.
[252] I think he's ego -based.
[253] And I think he's just saying that because when he could actually be crying himself to sleep every night.
[254] I think he put her in there still alive so he could make himself like, I wasn't, I didn't really kill her.
[255] Right.
[256] I just knocked her out.
[257] Yeah.
[258] And then unfortunately all the garbage I put on her killed her.
[259] Yeah.
[260] Like he's less culpable.
[261] Thank you all again so much for the show, and I hope to hear my favorite murder someday.
[262] This one?
[263] Well, you just did.
[264] Give Elvis a cookie for me and Mimi, too.
[265] She deserves a cookie, too.
[266] Mimi gets them.
[267] Stay sexy, don't get murdered.
[268] Oh, Z. She calls herself Z. That's cute.
[269] Thanks, Z. That was amazing.
[270] That was intense.
[271] I brought up a lot of emotions.
[272] Yeah.
[273] All right.
[274] What do you got?
[275] All right.
[276] This is from Isabel, and she has a really creative title called My Hometown Murder.
[277] So I want everyone to know we'll still open these.
[278] You don't have to be like Sometimes it's fucking hard to have A subject and a sign off are hard things to make up When you just don't want to Very true.
[279] So Isabel says Hey this is exciting An all new season of only murders in the building Is coming to Hulu on August 27th Steve Martin, Martin Short And Selena Gomez are back as your favorite podcaster detectives But there's a mystery hanging over everyone Who killed Saz?
[280] And were they really after Charles?
[281] Why would someone want to kill Charles.
[282] This season, murder hits close to home.
[283] With a threat against one of their own, the stakes are higher than ever.
[284] Plus, the gang is going to Hollywood to turn their podcast into a major movie.
[285] Amid the glitz and glamour of Los Angeles, more mysteries and twists arise.
[286] Who knows what'll happen once the cameras start to roll.
[287] Get ready for the stariest season yet with Merrill Streep, Zach Alfenakis, Eugene Levy, Eva Longoria, Melissa McCarthy, Davey, Joy Randolph, Molly Shannon, and more.
[288] Only murders in the building, premieres August 27th, streaming on Hulu.
[289] Goodbye.
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[306] important note that promo code is all lowercase go to shopify .com slash murder to take your retail business to the next level today that's shopify .com slash murder goodbye I know the episode has already aired but I just started listening to the podcast and I figure I'd share my own story anyway I don't know what episode I'm from the extremely small town of ozona Texas I was only three years old and knew nothing of the situation when it happened but a girl by the name of Jennifer Gravel was murdered by an older man slash neighbor named Melvin White.
[307] Growing up, we were always reminded of this murder, and I personally had a paranormal experience that we believed to be connected to this story.
[308] Whoa.
[309] I love growing up.
[310] We were always reminded that a fucking dude murdered someone.
[311] Yeah, that's good parents.
[312] I mean it.
[313] Do you?
[314] Yes, keep your eyes open.
[315] Some creepo neighbor.
[316] Yeah, but you don't have to go into detail.
[317] All right.
[318] He kidnapped her.
[319] I don't want to fight.
[320] Neither of us have children will want them.
[321] who fucking cares.
[322] He kidnapped her, took her out to arrest up, molested her, and then when the other car, then when another car and showed up, he took off to a different location and then killed her with a tire iron.
[323] Oh.
[324] She was, no, I don't know how old she was.
[325] He then drove outside of town and dumped her body by a water tower.
[326] After being tied to the murder by witnesses, he immediately confessed.
[327] He eventually was denied life in prison and was sentenced to death.
[328] Oh, turned out that he had molested his daughter, another family member, and other teens throughout his life.
[329] Holy shit.
[330] Mm -hmm.
[331] Here's where it got weird for me. When I was a kid around the age of 12, about a year after he was put to death, I went to my best friend's house for what I thought was a normal sleepover.
[332] It was my first one there at her house.
[333] Well, she told me that we would be sleeping in the living room.
[334] And when we were getting ready for bed, she asked me to go to the back bedroom, which was being used as a storage room for reasons I will explain later.
[335] Uh -oh.
[336] and grab a few blankets.
[337] I proceeded to the back of the house and opened the door.
[338] A cold, stale gust of wind hit my face.
[339] I turned on the light switch, but nothing turned on.
[340] I then grabbed my flip phone out of my pocket and flicked it on to use a screen as a light.
[341] I saw the blankets and walked towards them.
[342] And as I leaned over a chest to get them, I heard a faint scream from a girl.
[343] I thought it was my friend.
[344] We were at the house alone and I thought she might be in danger.
[345] So I grabbed the blankets and ran to the front of the house with my pocket knife in my hand.
[346] it was a small ranch town we all had knives of us all the time sounds fucking awesome totally um well i get there and she looks at me like i'm crazy when i told her what i heard she said well yeah that's why no one sleeps in those bedrooms this was melvin white's house oh done according to old photos they have found in boxes in the attic no at everyone love the way i said attic there's tons of people on twitter who are like that's how i pronounce it too i know i appreciate that yeah Um, old photos.
[347] They found in boxes in the attic.
[348] This is my like dream.
[349] This is why I have a metal detector.
[350] Yeah.
[351] For real.
[352] Um, the room I was in was his daughter's room.
[353] Oh my God.
[354] I won't attest as to who it was.
[355] Who it was I heard scream.
[356] But I will say that after experience, sleepovers were held in my house.
[357] Yeah.
[358] Thank you, Isabel.
[359] Okay.
[360] Can I just say that that Isabel's friend is fucked for being like, how about you go get the blankets?
[361] Totally.
[362] I'm like, why he's screaming?
[363] There's a haunted house And I don't know why you're screaming Because you experience the ghost I'm scared of To get blankets out of fabric You need to calm down I sent you there because I refuse to go in that room And you're freaking out We own a house where we don't sleep in the bedrooms Because it's on it Like what fucking child lasting murderer lived here We can't figure out a way to sell a house Yeah, that room that you won't go into A little girl got molested on the regular in there Go get some back and blankets Could you run in there quickly There's no electricity it's a nightmare room it's um it's strictly haunted uh there's just blankets and ghosts in there could you quickly go in grab one of them whatever you can grab a ghost a blanket a cup of blood whatever you find i also think it's a really funny detail that she was like i grabbed the blankets then went to help my friend and like yeah i would have been like fuck the blankets fuck you she liked this girl that much sounds like a bitch and it's understandable uh and if you're that girl and you have a counterpoint email you'd like like to send us my favorite murder at gmail dot com because how much we want to hear about that house and see those photos okay the finding any i feel like i've spent my life going into places that are attic like yeah or attic like or us going to thrift stores and hoping to find a picture of a person and a ghost behind them or some i mean like something it's a hatchet and a thing yeah i mean like that's a dream although oh my god i just had a recovered memory tell me tell me tell me my parents were it was between the it was between we were moving from one house to another and we my mom actually loved going and looking at houses every weekend she was like the queen of open houses I love that too it's her it was her favorite that's awesome so I know what almost every yeah uh house in petaluma looks like on the inside because of that and she always like walking to go like oh no this kitchen won't work for us yeah um and we looked at a house one time I think it was in sebastopol and we walked through it.
[364] It was just kind of dark and weird.
[365] And then when we left, my mom goes, the woman in the kitchen told me that actually the previous owners are moving out because the mother committed suicide in the attic.
[366] And then we just drove like in silence for a while.
[367] And then she was like, should I not have told you that?
[368] And I was like, no, I'm fine with that.
[369] Like, I think I was like 12 or so.
[370] Did it make you want to move there even more?
[371] I didn't want to live there, but I was so stoked that I walked through that house.
[372] totally it was because we did have bad bad feelings in it i went to i got a lot of estate sales which i love partly because i love seeing people's houses that i would never normally see yes especially because they're old people's houses so they're like the same as they were before if something has been if something has been remodels it's always like from the 70s or 80s so it looks terrible yes um so once i went to a metallic wallpaper oh my god yeah and like oh just like swan fucking tiles i don't swans blue swans everywhere yeah um i went into an estate sale once San Francisco and like I was walking around I definitely had bad vibes at this place not bad vibes just like spooky and I went into the closet which I always go to look for vintage clothing and I happened to glance the back of the closet door and on it this woman had started listing when the symptoms of her illness had started until she died headaches start this date had a headache again oh my god I had a fucking this my eye like my hand was numb today and like on the back of the fucking closet.
[373] Was it the kind of closet door that just open like your front door?
[374] Yeah.
[375] Oh, okay.
[376] Just like a regular old door.
[377] Of course, I immediately pictured it's those like pull -y ones where like she'd have to be inside the closet writing on the house.
[378] No, she could just open the closet right now.
[379] It wasn't that spooky.
[380] So she basically in the same way families in the kitchen will mark children's height, she basically reversed that.
[381] But like in a hidden place where no one would see it.
[382] Oh my God.
[383] I think we, I'm not trying to fit you guys out.
[384] I think that shit painting is from there.
[385] Okay.
[386] We're going to have to turn out all the lights and start.
[387] Stephen?
[388] Chanting.
[389] I think Stephen might be crying.
[390] I'm scared.
[391] Elvis hold me. Elvis is talking to like, Elvis is speaking in tongues.
[392] Oh my God.
[393] That is, it's sad.
[394] It's horrible.
[395] It's like somebody trying to deal with this, the heaviest thing you can possibly deal with your own mortality.
[396] but then that is that I mean that should go straight into a horror movie totally but that's why I love estate sales and this is why I know a lot of people can't go to estate sales because like this is a dead person's thing I feel awful but it's like I have treasured that shit painting that I bought for $10 and I remember it from 2004 this whole time and so this person who suffered and died but kept that painting their whole life too I'm taking care of it yes I'm not okay can I say this to you I love estate sale like if you go will you please invite me Fridays dude right days are the sea secret estate sale day.
[397] Okay, that's awesome.
[398] We'll go.
[399] Okay, great.
[400] You're going to let my, I just kept, my mom went once with me and I'm really particular about estate sales and she came back and she said, I, this she did what your mom did.
[401] I talked to the, the guy who you're selling and this is how they died.
[402] And I'm like, this, you're not supposed to do that.
[403] Like, you're supposed to, it's supposed to be a mystery.
[404] Oh, man, that was good.
[405] I don't think we need to do any more.
[406] Do you?
[407] Wait, how long?
[408] How long are they usually?
[409] 25.
[410] That felt long.
[411] long, though.
[412] Let's do another one.
[413] What about you guys?
[414] That'd be amazing if somehow they could vote.
[415] I don't want to listen to this anymore.
[416] This is live.
[417] You know this is live, Karen.
[418] Oh, it's just like a telethon on PBS.
[419] Oh my God, don't make me speak on the computer.
[420] Whiskey is not good for the computer.
[421] I kind of wanted to read the, I guess the reason I'm pushing through is because this has, this has a good feeling to me, a good, bad feeling.
[422] Okay, good.
[423] It's from William.
[424] and it says hometown murder oh my oh my god I don't know is it spooky I didn't read the subject line I read I scanned the first like two or three paragraphs and I was like okay this is going to be creepy oh no no no no what's I say what was his mom because I was laughing also this is bad what if the woman who wrote stuff on the back of his closet was his mom my mom used to write it's worse oh no hometown murder children thrown off hotel roof.
[425] How did you, how did that get worse?
[426] That sucks.
[427] No. I don't, I don't want to hear that.
[428] Didn't say anything about that in the first two lines.
[429] well here's, this is my denial mechanism.
[430] I did not see that subject line.
[431] my eyes wouldn't read it.
[432] You must have clicked on it in like, without thinking, like, you knew it was something interesting.
[433] I thought it was something good.
[434] No, I don't throw children off hotels.
[435] No. Oh, God.
[436] Who did?
[437] Just like, just give us a little.
[438] Okay.
[439] Oh, it's just, all right.
[440] Oh, they just tossed them.
[441] They didn't throw them.
[442] Oh, yeah, yeah, no. Into a pool.
[443] Everything's fine, everybody.
[444] Okay.
[445] Have a great week.
[446] Oh, do you want to tell anything about that?
[447] It's just a mystery now.
[448] It's a person that went crazy.
[449] So it's only bummer time, USA.
[450] Is it, what kind of person am I?
[451] And the answer is who starts a murder podcast that wants to hear that whole story.
[452] I know.
[453] Okay.
[454] No, no, no, no. Okay.
[455] I don't think, too.
[456] No. Right?
[457] This is too much of a jerk around for people.
[458] I know.
[459] Let's stop talking about it.
[460] Okay.
[461] I have one by Phoebe.
[462] Okay.
[463] And it's called, this is, makes my heart sing.
[464] It's called my hometown murder story.
[465] There's no fucking throwing children.
[466] Great.
[467] Just straightforward.
[468] Beautiful.
[469] Well, you don't know that though.
[470] I don't yet.
[471] Hi, big, big fan of the podcast, first time emailer.
[472] This actually happened in the town.
[473] Of all time?
[474] You've got to use email, Phoebe.
[475] It's so convenient.
[476] It's scary.
[477] You're being silly.
[478] This actually happened in the town where I went to college, although that was only about 10 miles from my hometown.
[479] Don't need to explain it.
[480] It's fine.
[481] When I was a junior in 2005, I had a really good friend who lived off campus in an apartment complex.
[482] Bad idea.
[483] I lived in the dorms.
[484] I don't know.
[485] I lived in the dorm, she says.
[486] You go right home, right home.
[487] Slean your car.
[488] On one Saturday, we had plans to go to an amusement park with her and her boyfriend.
[489] They were about an hour late to pick up my boyfriend and I when they showed up.
[490] My friend looked super harassed and upset.
[491] I don't think she meant harassed.
[492] She told me that about 2 a .m., the fire alarm had gone off, and there was a fire in the apartment next door to her.
[493] This was on the ground floor.
[494] She said that she went outside and could see smoke from under the next door apartment and coming from the sliding glass back door to the patio.
[495] The fire department came and battled the flames for about two hours.
[496] It was very hot but seemed limited to one apartment.
[497] My friend kept saying that, thank God, the two girls who live there weren't home.
[498] I guess the fireman had gone in and inspected the place in the early morning and didn't see anything.
[499] Anyway, we went to the amusement park and I had a great day.
[500] We got home around seven and I went to my dorm.
[501] About half an hour later, my phone rang.
[502] I picked it up and my same friend was on the other end hysterical.
[503] Turns out that when the fireman had researched the apartment about an hour later, they had found the body of one of the roommates.
[504] She was naked and in the bathtub with a bunch of debris piled on top of her.
[505] She was really burned, but it was clear that she had been raped and strangled with an object of some sort and sent on fire.
[506] Oh, no. My friend had been, and there was also white supremacist graffiti everywhere.
[507] What the fuck?
[508] I had, my friend had been in her apartment next door while this guy was killing that poor girl.
[509] Their sliding doors were next to each other.
[510] We were so terrified in the interim before the guy was caught.
[511] Yes, you were.
[512] Oh my God.
[513] They eventually caught the guy because he was in possession of some stolen goods that belonged to this young woman.
[514] He is now on death row.
[515] I didn't know the girl who was murdered, but several of my friends did.
[516] It was so sad.
[517] She seemed to have so much promise in life.
[518] And this was a random attack, tragic and creepy and just overall awful.
[519] The case still hunts me. And I know it haunts my friend.
[520] And haunts us too.
[521] Dude.
[522] That's awful.
[523] Everyone listening.
[524] I mean, we came to be haunted, but then when it actually happens, it's always a bummer.
[525] I'm like, oh, I didn't want that.
[526] I thought I wanted.
[527] Also, it's that thing of, like, girls in college, where it feels like such a vulnerable time where there's all this promise and all this, like, strength and independence and when stuff like this happens it's just so crushing because it's like yeah that could have been me i was a girl in an apartment totally going to college yeah and to live next door and be the same kind of age girl and that just didn't happen to you what bothers me yeah it's so it's so hard to think of like an 18 year old who has who is so they think they're indestructible but they're like the most vulnerable yeah and so you just like your fucking your game well and also the older you get, I think it's like the older I get.
[528] I realize it's like, yeah, I was the, like, I was the girl that would get drunk at parties and walk home.
[529] Totally.
[530] Like across fields when I live in Sacramento.
[531] Meanwhile, around me, people were being murdered left, right and goddamn center.
[532] Totally.
[533] And like, yeah, it's just, it makes me feel lucky.
[534] Yeah, we both have these, like, stories of like, and I think maybe part of the reason we love murder stories is there's no, there's so many fucking close, close chances.
[535] Yeah.
[536] What do you call them?
[537] Close cause.
[538] Thank you.
[539] that we could have had close chances.
[540] Well, we're glad that you are live listening to this podcast.
[541] Thank you for tuning in.
[542] And if you have a hometown murder that you want to tell us about, go head to my favorite murder at gmail .com.
[543] Dot com.
[544] And if you could please rate, review, and subscribe on iTunes, is that just kind of helps us maybe whenever.
[545] Or you can not.
[546] You know, it's your life.
[547] But live it safely and stay sexy.
[548] And don't get murdered.
[549] Elvis, you want a cookie?
[550] That was a no. Did that sound like a no?
[551] No, I've had my fill.
[552] I'm full.
[553] Elvis, is that a no?
[554] Want a cookie?
[555] Oh, that was the act.
[556] Yeah, for sure.
[557] Bye.