#1497 - Joe Schilling

[0] stitch him up what's up brother how you doing so we're going we're rolling rolling so um i've been talking about you a lot lately i appreciate that you know i love you but it's also your instagram page has become a highlight of police brutality and um i know you take a lot of shit for it but i think it's very important and we were just talking about this i think it's important not just for the people but i think it's important for the police i think it's important for police reform i think They need to see.

[1] Like, this is, this is what happens when you have shitty people doing this very fucking difficult job, and you got a lot of them.

[2] I think, you know, my thing was it just became, everybody just always says, well, it's only a few bad apples, a few bad apples, a few bad apples.

[3] And I'm like, well, I can just show you, there's a lot of these bad apples, you know what I mean?

[4] And I think that, like you said, it's better for future police.

[5] But if they're so scared to do their job, it's because everyone hates them.

[6] because everybody hates them because they're constantly being dickheads to everybody that makes it worse for the good cops you know what i mean i do know what you mean we were i was talking about this the other day with colion noir and we were saying that it's a job that is almost impossible to do for the average person you need to be like a fucking navy seal you need to be like a person who's gone through some rigorous training and a person who really understands how to diffuse situations need to be a person who knows how to keep your shit together a person who knows how to keep your shit together a person who knows knows how to respect people.

[7] They need a lot more training.

[8] Jaco Willink was talking about that.

[9] He said, I think they should have 20 % training.

[10] He goes, they train for like, you know, a couple of weeks.

[11] It's like nine weeks or something.

[12] Yeah, and then it's over.

[13] And then they're out there in the field.

[14] He goes, I think 20 % of their time should be spent training.

[15] I don't mean to interrupt you.

[16] Maybe it's even worse than that is it's not nine weeks and then the field.

[17] In L .A. County, you want to be a sheriff?

[18] It's nine weeks or however long, and if it's 10 weeks, I'm sorry, or 12 weeks.

[19] It's not that many weeks.

[20] Right out of the academy, you go straight to two years in the jail.

[21] They're like, oh, all the human interaction you've had before you went to the academy, now we're going to surround you by the worst examples of everybody for two years.

[22] And then you're going to go on the streets and try to be normal.

[23] You go to the jails for two years?

[24] Two year minimum.

[25] What?

[26] All sheriffs.

[27] That's probably because they just need people in the jails, right?

[28] Well, that goes back to what, I mean, I feel like they, uh, we got a lot of there's a lot of shit going on there.

[29] There's a lot of shit going on there.

[30] First of all, there's pretty.

[31] private prisons then there's drug laws that's that's those are the two big ones you want to find out why the fucking prisons are filled up with people those are two big ones right there how many people are in jail for shit they should never be in jail for decisions that other people make with their own body that doesn't harm anybody other than themselves you could buy alcohol but you can't buy coke you can't buy weed you can't buy nonviolent drug offenses is a giant percentage of the population and then you said like you they go to jail for that because they made a mistake, but then they don't just get out of jail and they're free.

[32] They put you on probation, and they put these extended five years probation, anything's a probation violation, and then they just keep you back into that same system, back into the same system, back to the same system.

[33] You know, Father's Day, I was out back.

[34] I did, like, a post around my kids, and, you know, I'm really proud of my kids.

[35] So I did a post on Father's Day, and then I was like, man, it's Father's Day.

[36] I'm going to chill, smoke a joint, fucking crack a beer.

[37] It's like 10 o 'clock in the morning.

[38] I can do that on Father's Day, you know?

[39] And I'm sitting there, I'm going to do a post for Ignite.

[40] Shout out to Ignite.

[41] And I'm like, it hit me. Like, it's Father's Day.

[42] How many fathers are in prison right now still, to this day, over something that I can do legally and post on the Instagram now?

[43] It's insane.

[44] Not only that.

[45] It's insane.

[46] In jail for something that's now an essential.

[47] Like, it's an essential thing that you can do during COVID.

[48] Like, when everything was locked down, you could still buy weed.

[49] It's nuts.

[50] It's crazy.

[51] And then you can't just blindly turn your eye.

[52] They turn your eyes to all this stuff.

[53] No. With everything going on in the world, it's like that's why I'm putting their stuff on my Instagram.

[54] It needs to be seen.

[55] Yeah, it's, I'm glad you're doing it.

[56] You know, and I know you take a lot of hate for it, and that's one of the reasons why I highlighted it.

[57] I want to shine people your way and let them know.

[58] Like, you're not doing this because you're a dickhead.

[59] You're doing it because you're showing horrible shit.

[60] There's a video that you show that I've watched so many times, man. There's the cop that rear -naked chokes that lady and throws her to the ground for no reason.

[61] Horrendous.

[62] No reason.

[63] Horrendous and you would see him Some days I'm like sometimes I don't have time I'm not even gonna look at the comments because I don't want to go there But some days like today I got time I will battle these fucking assholes in the comments all day long They'll defend that Well she shouldn't have resisted I want I want context show me context But if that was your mom What what scenario or context are you looking for that that would be okay Or your lady to jump on your back or your daughter Or your grandma?

[64] Yeah Jesus Christ It's nuts it's nuts It's people that shouldn't be cops and it's too easy to be a cop.

[65] It's too easy and they don't get paid enough and they don't they don't get trained well enough and this defunding the police shit is the wrong way to handle it I know they think it's the right way to handle it.

[66] Yeah, we're just these cops are bad.

[67] We're just take away all the money.

[68] Oh my God, you're gonna create fucking chaos.

[69] I don't know.

[70] I haven't looked into the defunding thing a lot.

[71] I've heard it heard about it a lot, but when you talk about defunding, let's talk about why do why do these cops need fucking tanks in downtown?

[72] Why do these cops need all these AR -15s and full bullet like what is all what are we training for we're trying to scare people why are we spending all of these tax dollars to scare people and let's show you some shit that john joseph sent me my buddy john joseph from the cromags he's um this is a show that people who have different points of view could be good friends because he's a good friend of mine he wrote a book called meat is for pussies so there you go folks we can all get along we really can you fucking idiots but anyway he uh he sent me some shit his friend is uh he's work in homicide in Harlem and 21 people got shot the other day because nobody wants to be a cop there anymore so it's fucking madness like he said it is madness in new york city like literally god damn it where can't i find it like nobody wants to do the fucking job he's like it's crazy down there they didn't want to do the job before or they don't want to do the job now that the heat and the spotlight is on them both now everybody's like resigning well if i can't If I can't do whatever I want and have absolute immunity, then I don't want the job anymore.

[73] You shouldn't have had the fucking job to begin with.

[74] That's a good point, too.

[75] You know what I mean?

[76] Like, why did you have the job?

[77] All right, look at this.

[78] This is all the fucking people that got shot the other night.

[79] That's one day.

[80] This is what's, that's what happens when there's no cops.

[81] When there's no cops and no one's policing anything, people just go ham.

[82] I mean, that's what you saw in Santa Monica.

[83] Santa Monica is as white as Wonderbread, right?

[84] It's crazy.

[85] And it was crazy during the looting.

[86] I mean, crazy.

[87] The cops were told to stand down.

[88] They were told to stand around and watch.

[89] So the whole thing of, you know, hey, you need the cops.

[90] When you call them, you need them.

[91] When shit goes crazy, the cops are there for you.

[92] Not that time.

[93] The sheriff actually told them to not do anything.

[94] So people were smashing windows and stealing things, and they're standing around.

[95] And there's videos of this one guy running around the street point and guns of people, cars smashed into each other.

[96] It's like a movie.

[97] What was the point of telling them to stand down?

[98] I think they thought.

[99] that people were going to burn all this anger out, the George Floyd anger, and that somehow another, like, let them do it, and then we'll clean up the mess.

[100] It's just incompetent policing.

[101] It's incompetent leadership.

[102] So there's the person that made that choice?

[103] Do we vote for him?

[104] Because everybody should probably throw that for her?

[105] Like, these are the kind of decisions that need to be made.

[106] And you have to ask yourself, what was the purpose in telling them that?

[107] Well, this is a liberal progressive perspective.

[108] This is something that they've tried in a bunch of different cities.

[109] They also, de Blasio, did the same thing in New York City.

[110] The cops were literally told to stand down and the cops are standing there and they're doing nothing why people are just fucking videos the videos from New York City of the nuttiest because people are filming them from their apartments so they're looking down on the street why cars are running people over and people are smashing into windows and running in and stealing stuff like all these kids just wanting free shit nothing to do with Black Lives for the most part a lot of them are just opportunists looking for stealing and then also caught up in the chaos of the smashing windows and stealing stuff and then the cops aren't doing anything and they're young and they've been out of work for three fucking months and everybody's broke it's just so many factors compounded together but Giuliani was actually on Fox News talking about there's a particular like political perspective on how to deal with looting and riots in these particular situations and the idea is to let it burn out let these people burn it out of their system but that it doesn't work he's like this is an outdated style of policing that they figured out doesn't work in like the 60s and 70s but there's a lot of progressive people that are in positions of leadership that still think it's a good idea it seems like a terrible idea well nobody knows really what the fuck to do when everything goes haywire it's like theories like what's the the like what do you do well you better protect lives but don't worry about property because everything's gone nuts and then the other perspective is send in the fucking national guard and everybody's like don't do that that's the military so i don't know what the correct perspective is and thank god i'm not a fucking governor or a mayor that's when you know things are fucked if someone like me ever gets to a position like that yeah i don't know part of me thinks that the national guards would be service you know off -duty servicemen or however that works that are from this city or from the area would probably do a lot better job and get more respect than the police that are driving around shooting kids with pepper balls and doing all this crazy shit we're seeing everywhere you would say that but one of the most egregious videos of police brutality was the national guard in minnesota where those girls were on their porch i don't know if you saw that one And these National Guard dickheads are walking on the street.

[111] They're like, get inside, get inside.

[112] And they go, light them up.

[113] And they're shooting rubber bullets at these fucking girls in their house.

[114] They're on their porch.

[115] It's insane.

[116] These girls got hit.

[117] It's insane.

[118] And she's like, ow, fuck.

[119] And she's like inside her house.

[120] And then a bunch of people have lost eyes.

[121] There's a bunch of people who lost eyes doing this.

[122] There's so many.

[123] And everyone, now everyone's just tagging me in videos.

[124] And it's like overwhelming.

[125] That kid that got shot in the face.

[126] The other one lost his eye.

[127] Yeah.

[128] Multiple people have.

[129] lost their eye.

[130] Journalists have lost their eyes.

[131] The video I posted of that guy, they're like all squared up, like, a he's like walking to him, talking shit or whatever, and he's like smoking a cigarette.

[132] And they mace him in the face and he turns around like a fucking G, like hits the cigarette, like what a dick.

[133] Turns back and they shoot him in the face point blank with like a, I think it's a tear gas canister.

[134] Yeah.

[135] To the face.

[136] In the face.

[137] I saw it.

[138] I mean, it explodes in his face.

[139] Yeah, who knows what happened to that guy.

[140] You know?

[141] But it's, yeah, that is not serving or protecting.

[142] It's on any level on any level and you know I get it man look there's a fucking video we want to talk about the other perspective there's a video go to hector Lombards Instagram there's a video I mean this is where it gets really squirley because there's this dumb white guy who's in the face of this black cop the black cop's not doing anything he's doing his job and this guy's calling him a bitch he's calling him all these terrible names he's inches for instance this scrawny ass man bun wearing dickhead is in this cop's face like what happened to black lives matter like if this is black lives matter you this is a black guy like what are you doing he's not even doing anything man he's standing there trying to keep the peace and you're fucking with him inciting him it's people man it's people people there's a lot of us suck and in pressure situations a lot of us suck and and these cops that you're seeing that are doing these horrible things.

[143] They're just fucking people, man. And if you give a person that insane power to Mesa guy in the face, then shoot him in the head with a fucking tear gas canister, that guy's got to be a hell accountable.

[144] And you've got to make sure that never fucking happens again.

[145] And that video should be used for training purposes.

[146] But everybody else on that day, they say that there's good cops.

[147] Everybody else on that guy's team knows that guy.

[148] You know what I mean?

[149] They know that guy.

[150] You're in a locker room with all your buddies or whatever.

[151] You know who cheats on his wife and who doesn't.

[152] Like, you know that guy.

[153] You know that guy's a fucking an asshole you know what i mean right so but what do you do it's just like i mean i look at it they feel like they can't do anything because those people protect them if they're they're in the middle of a fucking shootout they don't want to be the guy that doesn't get back up because you rat it out the guy that shot the guy with the tear canister well if that's the problem that we're facing then it's time to clean house and start all over again and everybody needs to be you're all fired and then you can reapply for your job but you're getting reapply for your job from a completely system or a pretty different interview process, somebody that's not attached to you.

[154] Because if that's the problem that you have is now I can't trust, these guys aren't going to trust me, then what are we supposed to do?

[155] Just say it's okay every time that happens?

[156] Yeah, we shouldn't.

[157] We definitely shouldn't say it's okay.

[158] They need reform.

[159] There's no question about it.

[160] Anybody who says they don't need reform needs to go to the Joe Schilling's Instagram page.

[161] And for real, the other one, the old man, that fucking old man that gets pushed down and cracks his fucking head.

[162] And then those guys, in solidarity, quit and walk off the job.

[163] And then when the guys get released from whatever cops got charged or released from whatever, all the other cops are outside, plazzing them.

[164] Yeah.

[165] You can't push an old guy to the ground and he cracks his head open and you walk away.

[166] I don't know what that old guy said to them.

[167] I mean, he was apparently an old hippie that's, like, been a peace activist forever.

[168] And, you know, he's like 80 -something years old or something like that.

[169] he's really old man like when that 70 something years old do you remember 75 when he gets pushed man you can see he's feeble he falls he has no control over his body and bangs his fucking head off the concrete and they just leave him there man they just leave him there no one's doing CPR no one's calling a medic no one's checking him no one's holding his hand no he's doing a goddamn thing like you just watch an assault you watch an assault on an old man on a helpless old man or a helpless woman or a hopeless 13 year old girl you're slamming around like it's all yes weak weak weak weak weak men that are doing this yes yes yes you know what I mean and these are the ones that we give I don't know it's like this lack of masculinity so we're like scared so we give somebody else the power and you're giving weak -minded people guns and power right you know what I mean giving people guns and power that the psychological ramifications of that job must be crazy.

[170] If you're day in, day out, seeing gunshots and fucking suicides and car accidents and stabbings and rape and all day long, you're seeing the worst aspects of humanity that your mind gets fucked.

[171] I've talked to a lot of cops that are good guys and they'll tell you, like, the job is hard, man. There's days where you literally, you would, you think about taking your own life so you don't have to see anything anymore.

[172] They say that.

[173] I've heard that.

[174] from cops.

[175] And these are not cops that are abusive.

[176] They're cops that are just like, man, I'm telling you, it's like you get overwhelmed.

[177] Like you can only walk up on so many suicides, so many shotgun wounds to the face.

[178] You can only walk up on so many of those and keep your sanity.

[179] And, you know, the other thing that Jocko Willink was saying was that it's the same thing in the teams.

[180] Like psychologically, some people can handle anything.

[181] And some people cannot handle anything.

[182] Some people just one or two things and they're off tilt.

[183] they just can't oh for sure and but some people they can go back home to their family and be a good dad and be a good husband and be a good neighbor and be a good person and just you just absorb it and just you know go well you know it's horrible but hey that's life that's tough that's tough reformed is mental health with officers or whatever but we can't just ignore the whole the whole thing and say well you know it's a tough job no we can't it's like the chris rock thing about like you can't be a sometimes a good pilot be a pilot you can't just crash into things you can't go without accountability yeah which off topic but like that's how I feel about judges like how many fights can you screw up before there's an accountability yes yeah yeah you know what I mean yeah no that's a real good point yeah I mean it's like basically every job you know um it's just some jobs have much higher consequences and cops it's like the highest it's one of the highest cops soldiers is a few with the highest consequences of your mistakes, you know, and zero accountability.

[184] Very little.

[185] They only do, cops don't get, don't go to regular court, they get internal investigations.

[186] They all protect their own.

[187] They protect each other.

[188] They're on their own little team.

[189] That woman, what is her name, Brianna Taylor?

[190] Is that her name?

[191] The woman who got shot in her home.

[192] And then they, no knock warrant, kicked down the wrong door.

[193] Shot through the window.

[194] She was playing with her.

[195] whether it's son or little brother or somebody in the bed of the video game.

[196] And then they charged her boyfriend or husband with attempted murder for shooting back at the person who's shooting through the window.

[197] They didn't tell them they were cops.

[198] Insane.

[199] I mean, they have this guy cuffed in a fucking jumpsuit going to jail.

[200] It's crazy.

[201] And the cop who did that only got fired.

[202] That's it.

[203] There was another one where the guy got...

[204] And just now.

[205] Just now got fired, by the way.

[206] That happened.

[207] quite a while ago.

[208] The one I posted of the guy in the hotel where they called the he had a pellet gun because he was like an outer town exterminator and he's with his girlfriend in a hotel room and they call the cops the cops come and they're like lined up down the hall with an AR -15 screaming and ridiculous orders Yes, ridiculous water hands behind your back crawl while you have stretch your head in your temple but don't fucking move or I'll kill you don't reach back the guy kept losing his pants because he didn't have a belt on he's crying he's like please please and they just fucking gun him down while he's belly down so they already knew what they wanted to do and they're waiting for him to give the reason well exactly it's not hard to tell that guy is not a threat just like it's not hard to tell that that woman like the one where the they throw the woman down and she jumps the cop jumps on her back and puts her in a rear naked choke what do you do when you argue with your wife at home or your sister or your girlfriend like when at what point does your where do you get the right to just jump to that conclusion just because you're a cop that woman's not a threat to you no that old man or that i posted yesterday They body slammed it.

[209] You know, it's just...

[210] I don't know if you saw the one where there's a guy who got pulled over going five miles an hour over the speed limit and the officer is threatening the pepper spray him because he's filming.

[211] Oh, yeah.

[212] See that one?

[213] Yeah.

[214] There's a lot of them, man. There's a lot of them.

[215] There's another one with a black guy and he's just going on, like losing his shit on the cop.

[216] And he's like...

[217] Yeah.

[218] I just saw it recently.

[219] He's like, you pulled me over for not using my turn signal and you walked up to my window with a gun.

[220] I have a gun pointed at me. Yeah.

[221] What the fuck is wrong with you?

[222] Yeah.

[223] I got kids, I got a wife, I want to live my life.

[224] Why the fuck, because I made a turn signal?

[225] Right.

[226] Why are these guys so terrified to do their job?

[227] Well, you don't know what it's like to work the streets, the south side of Chicago.

[228] There's people that live in south side of Chicago.

[229] There's people that grow up there.

[230] There's people that are raised there.

[231] There's old ladies that walk down the street there.

[232] You know what I mean?

[233] So don't tell me because you're too terrified to do your job.

[234] It makes it okay for you to kill people.

[235] Well, it's definitely not okay to behave like that because they escalate way before it becomes a real thing.

[236] And there's nothing going on.

[237] You're pulling a guy over.

[238] It's one thing if you're pulling a guy over and his windows are all blacked out and he won't, he's not complying.

[239] He's not rolling down his window.

[240] You should get sketched out.

[241] And he ran his tag and he has 15 armed robbery charges or whatever, you know?

[242] It's, but then, you know, it's just, there needs to be solutions.

[243] All this complaining about it is great.

[244] It's good.

[245] I really think what you're doing is very good because it, and I think the cops should think it too.

[246] They really should, man, because it should, man, because it should high, the need for reform and highlight the need for education and highlight the need for better training and better funding you want better people you got to pay them you got to you're you can't have billboards up that say earn 50 ,000 dollars a year have a great gig you know that's not the people you want man you want you want it to be difficult to be a cop it sounds like a joke but it's not a joke you need more training time to become a barber than it is to become a cop that's a fact that's not a joke It sounds like a joke It's not a joke It's a fucking fact We give these people That have like very little Training whatsoever And very little background On their mental stability You know a fucking weirdo When you meet him Joe You're like oh that guy's a little off You're not gonna give that guy A fucking gun and a badge And then the right to do whatever he wants And that's what we do And it keeps biting us in the ass All the time Yeah I have a buddy of mine And he has this dude Who was his trainer That kept trying to be a cop The guy was fucking insane fucking insane he would tell him in the middle of training Jesus doesn't want you doing that right now Jesus wants you doing something different and he'd be like what he's like Jesus wants you doing squats today just uh gotta trust in the Lord man today it squats he's like what the fuck are you saying he's like he was wrong like something's off in his head right and he just kept saying that yeah Long Beach turned me down so uh you know I'm gonna try for the Pasadena police department like this guy was mentally unstable and he kept trying to become a cop now if one police department was light on people and they needed that guy and they gave that guy a gun and let that guy pull people over and Jesus tells them to shoot somebody Florida's saying that they would take on the police department and forth said we would take all the police officers at the other state they got in trouble or whatever Atlanta?

[247] Whatever the fuck thing was Atlanta's all the police officers are not responding There's people that applied to be in the military and didn't pass the thing but still became cops it takes let you are a lower standard to be a police officer in the u .s than it is to be a soldier in the u .s that's crazy what are we doing and what and what is the you know we have the same process when i was in high school the guys come around in their suits they you know they if you take the asbap test on we can show you the world you get a free education all that shit yeah you don't qualify for them but i could still get a badge and a gun and people are going to respect me yeah yeah yeah there's a lot of that there's a lot of that shit going on That's real.

[248] You know what I mean?

[249] No offense or buts about it.

[250] And it's just a poor management.

[251] It's a poor management decision to run the police departments that way, to have them that underfunded, to have them that poorly represented.

[252] Because I know there's good cops out there.

[253] I've met them.

[254] I know good guys that are cops.

[255] For sure.

[256] For sure.

[257] Me too.

[258] I've trained cops.

[259] I've trained good cops.

[260] I'm like, oh, that seems like a good guy.

[261] And then I've seen him met other cops that I'm like, that dude is not all there.

[262] Right.

[263] That dude's not all there.

[264] And everybody in the fucking precinct knows all that's, that's Dewey, you know.

[265] Don't worry about Dewey.

[266] He's a good guy.

[267] Yeah, just don't get pulled over by him.

[268] Just don't get pulled over by him.

[269] Yeah.

[270] It's, uh, we're in a crisis in this country in many ways.

[271] And, uh, Jocko was talking about this, that it's a leadership crisis.

[272] It's all from the top down, you know, and, uh, it's a leadership when it comes to the president, leadership crisis governors mayors sheriffs and then the cops themselves it's it's a bunch of people that really don't have the character to be doing that look it's a i wouldn't wish it on anybody man it's that's a tough fucking all those gigs we just said being a governor fucking insanely hard i couldn't imagine being responsible for the economy of a whole state especially like california that's why our goofy governor keeps calling it a nation state it might as well be a fucking nation There's 40 million people in this motherfucker.

[273] That's a lot of people, man. That's crazy.

[274] I don't want that job.

[275] But if you're going to have that job, you better be fucking really good, man. You better be really good.

[276] I think that we need four -year terms for everybody of major powers like this so that we don't end up with these career politicians and career, you know, this just stays the same.

[277] And you build your relationships and the shit just stays the same.

[278] There's no accountability.

[279] There's no fresh blood coming in.

[280] Maybe that's a good key for cops too.

[281] have a four -year, like, term, and then you're up for a review.

[282] Or the police chief.

[283] You know the police, I can only imagine it.

[284] That's why I, like, like, lethal weapon or whatever.

[285] Martin and Riggs walk in or whatever.

[286] And he's like, oh, you know, the commissioner, Commissioner Gordon's breathing down my neck.

[287] You've got to stop choking all these guys out.

[288] And they're like, you know, I don't give a fuck.

[289] But, you know, the commissioner's down my back.

[290] He's not saying, hey, motherfucker, you're fired.

[291] I'm going to press charges on your fucking ass.

[292] This is not why we do things.

[293] You know what I mean?

[294] But then there's always the, there's the romantic crazy cop.

[295] Like Riggs in Lethal Weapon was the romantic crazy cop It was kind of cool He's a little unhinged, but he gets a job done Yeah, right You know?

[296] But those guys are never abusive in those movies The unhinged guys They're always heroes Yeah, they're always heroes and cool with people But they just, you know, eat cold pizza in the morning And a blender and they fucking smoke cigarettes And then they choke people So my son Jackson was scared of the police before I was ever ended any of it or said doing when I noticed it I was aware of it I like took a step back and looked at myself he's getting this from me and he wasn't he was like three or four years old and we would pull I remember one day we pulled in to a bank and I parked between two cop cars and my older son gets out the car and I'm like oh where's Jackson he's still in the back and he's like all like tense in the back seat I'm like what's wrong with you and he's like uh he wouldn't say anything my older son's like oh he's scared of the cops I'm like why because all he sees is cops come when you're in trouble.

[297] Cops take you to jail.

[298] Cops do bad things.

[299] There's no like, when I was a kid in Bellbrook, Ohio, where I grew up, we had a cat, and he used to always go up in the tree.

[300] And my mom would call the police in the fire department anytime the cat went in the fucking tree.

[301] That's old school.

[302] We try, right?

[303] We'd try.

[304] You know, I couldn't climb a tree that high.

[305] You know, get down, you're going to fall, and then she'd call the fucking police in the fire department.

[306] And they'd come, and they'd be cool.

[307] And that fucking cop would give us crap cracker jacks and when a cop drove by he waved at you you know what i mean that's small town life well that was like how shit should be now it's like if i meant a fucking quiz nose and i'm like oh man excuse me officer what time is like i want my fucking lunch break they're just fucking dickheads all the time they pull you over what are you doing speeding in my town you know it's just like this overwhelming fuck you all the time i got the cop stories i got i got i got cop stories i know you do i got a few more stories there's a lot of cop stories there's a lot of cop stories there's a lot of cop stories to have good and bad but you only hear the bad ones there's a there's a lot of interactions every day that people have with cops that are positive I'm sure but it's just exactly like the Chris Rock joke you really can't have bad apples when it's that job no just like you can't have bad fire department people you can't have bad pilots you can't have it's just a job you got to do right and then it's like for how long like that's why lately I've been posting videos from like three years ago, four years ago.

[308] Same type of shit.

[309] It's still going like, this is an old video and nothing's changed.

[310] Rodney King wasn't that long ago.

[311] There was another one that just came out.

[312] This guy's handcuffed on his back and they're beating him with tons telling him to put his legs down while they're beating the shit out of it.

[313] Yeah, I've seen that one.

[314] And then the guy that got pulled over or fell asleep in a Wendy's parking lot, cop pulls him over.

[315] He's like, hey, what are you doing?

[316] The guy's like, look, man, I was fighting with my wife.

[317] Fucking had, you know, he'd been drinking.

[318] Yes, sir, I've been drinking.

[319] He hadn't been driving.

[320] that they could prove yet.

[321] So they're like, well, can you take his breathlizer?

[322] And he's like, well, you know I'm already been drinking.

[323] He's like, which is part of my investigation.

[324] It's no big deal.

[325] The reality was they needed him to take the breathaler because then they could arrest him because they didn't see him actually drive.

[326] They couldn't do that.

[327] So they trick him into doing that.

[328] Then they arrest him.

[329] When they arrest him, he's got his hands behind his back.

[330] Maybe he's tussling or whatever.

[331] Nobody wants to get arrested.

[332] While they're teasing him in the back multiple times.

[333] These idiots give up the taser.

[334] So he's running away with the taser and they shoot him in the back.

[335] yeah we were talking about that one he turned what didn't he turn and point the taser at him or is that what they said the video it looks like he could do whatever invest i can't keep up with the investigations of like what day things are being found maybe there was a shot left in it that's why there was a pop heard or there was i i don't know so there might have been a shot left in it people are saying that yeah and that's what i don't know okay but either way but if i tase you in the back four times it doesn't give you the right to kill me but if i shoot or may aim one and your general deletion.

[336] It's ice this motherfucker.

[337] And it wasn't like that guy was, you had the conversation with him.

[338] He just said he would go home.

[339] He was daughter, his daughters were at his sister's house.

[340] That I'll just leave the car here and go.

[341] But they already had the agenda of what they wanted to do.

[342] Why shouldn't that guy just go?

[343] You know what?

[344] Go home.

[345] Mark Lamont Hill had a really important point.

[346] It's like, why is that a case even for the police?

[347] There should be something else, like some other division that just handles nonviolent people that are just in need of assistance.

[348] If you got a guy who's drunk in a parking lot, there should just be some people that, if you want to cite him and give him some sort of a fine or suspend his license for 30 days or something like that, something nonviolent, but that guy should just get a ride home.

[349] And if he says that he drove there, well, hey, man, you can't drive drunk.

[350] You're in trouble for that.

[351] But to try to tase him and all that other shit, there's no need for that.

[352] See, I'm torn on that is that, yes, you're absolutely right.

[353] Somebody should be able to see that.

[354] I just don't think that it's out of the realm of possibilities that the police could be called to that scene and not end up shooting the guy.

[355] Yeah.

[356] They should have the same wherewithal that you and I are having in this conversation to be like, oh, dude, what are you doing?

[357] Yeah.

[358] Go, your wife's probably pissed your dumb drunk right now.

[359] And that's one of the ones where the Atlanta Police Department is all walking off in solidarity because their guy was charged with felony murder.

[360] And so they all quit.

[361] Yeah, a lot of them are just not responding to things.

[362] They basically don't feel like they're supported and they want to let people know, like, this is what we do.

[363] This is how hard this job is.

[364] So this is what it's like when cops don't respond.

[365] That is the most idiotic baby little child shit to do.

[366] I can't even get behind that at all.

[367] Well, I'm taking my ball and I'm going home then.

[368] If you don't want me here, then I'm leaving.

[369] I don't even know.

[370] It's ridiculous.

[371] It's not going to change the charges.

[372] If they charge him with felony murder, they're not going to uncharge him with felony murder because the cops aren't responding.

[373] I mean, once it's like...

[374] It just shows that much they don't care about their community.

[375] They don't care about their oath.

[376] They don't care about protecting and serving for you to do that.

[377] They care about staying together, you know?

[378] That's what we're saying earlier.

[379] I mean, this is, that's the oath, right?

[380] That's the, you know, the code of silence.

[381] You have to protect those other people because the shit could go down.

[382] You need them to have your back.

[383] It's, I'm not saying it's right, but I'm saying that is how it works in the police department.

[384] That's terrible.

[385] Did you ever see the documentary, The 7 -5?

[386] I didn't.

[387] You should see it.

[388] It's fucking crazy.

[389] It's the 7 -5.

[390] The 7 -5.

[391] It is all about this guy, it's this guy Mike Dowd, who's out now, who became a corrupt police officer.

[392] Just joined the force because he wanted to be a cop.

[393] And then right away was introduced to the fact that this whole fucking thing is bad.

[394] It's all corrupt.

[395] They're all bad cops.

[396] They're all doing fucked up shit.

[397] I'm pretty sure they pushed a guy out of a window, like one of the first days that he got there.

[398] someone got killed and they would just say this is how it works and then cut to many years later he's robbing drug dealers and selling drugs and they're organizing hits on people like it's a crazy fucking moving it's from his words and his former partner's words and it just details how everything went completely sideways and it just shows you like imagine if you were one of those guys and that's your job you're a fucking cop and you're in this precinct with all these other corrupt cops and you're like well this is what we do so this is what we do we just corrupt fuck it's like the mob mentality with the protest right you get a good protest or people protesting a real thing people that are having a peaceful march doing that stuff and then you compound they have been locked in their house for two months everybody's broke the louvins and their businesses shit's getting fucking weird they're just going crazy and but they're during the protest now you have some asshole come up with a hammer and break a bunch of windows and creating the drama it causes a mob mentality right it's like people are smart but mobs are stupid right where a person is smart people are stupid that same thing happened to the cops right you're on a team one guy starts doing shit like bro just shoot him in the face of the beanbag no one else shit oh you fucking god'll belly up right on pass me the gun boom and they're all doing the same shit there's definitely a lot of that and then they're protecting themselves yeah there's definitely a lot of that it's uh there's also there was some crazy shit where it was pretty much proven that some cops were the ones who were breaking windows in Minneapolis Oh yeah There was one in New York Where they were sawing the Like the roll -up door open on a A jewelry store A cop was doing it?

[399] Yeah they had There's video, I'll find the video for you Oh, please find that video With like a fucking one of the Like a mitersaw or whatever Cutting the roll -up door on the jewelry shop I think I saw that one It was if I remember it might be incorrect there was people they got a call there was people trapped in there and they had to get them out they might have been robbing it or something like that but like they had to huh maybe they got trapped in there robbing it yeah I may be mistaken on that one but I think I saw it oh that's interesting Jamie with the fact check that seems like a weird way to save people saw the fucking security door open because they broke it open in a bad way and like snuck in and like they had to get with all their equipment and shit so they use like the metal salt they're like hello 911 yeah um well Well, okay, we were robbing this jewelry store.

[400] That seems like the type of thing that you would say when you were caught on camera robbing the jewelry store.

[401] Well, actually, there was somebody inside.

[402] I was trying to get them out.

[403] It was just a weird thing.

[404] It happens sometimes, you know, being a cop.

[405] That's true, too.

[406] Yeah.

[407] I mean, how many cops robbed things during all the melee?

[408] Had to be a lot, right?

[409] Come on.

[410] They had to.

[411] The one that I saw was a Target in Minneapolis where this cop that actually got recognized and he got identified.

[412] And this cop was smashing windows.

[413] and these kids were like hey man are you a fucking cop he's like fuck off i'll kick your ass and like and he's a big guy too oh that was a guy in minneapolis with that he had the yeah yeah yeah he had a full face shield on and everything and they're like this guy's wearing like police issue shoes police issue clothes so let's look at that why would they do that why would a cop do that because the cop wanted to break shit or is there a plan to get fucking drama started in a certain city and then that police station just happens to burn down and they they give it up too well i think I think in a lot of those situations...

[414] How many records got destroyed when they burned down that police station?

[415] Oh, that's a good point.

[416] Ooh, look at Joe Schillings.

[417] Think on multiple levels.

[418] You know what I mean?

[419] I think what happens with a lot of this...

[420] You know, that's called an agent provocateur, right?

[421] And what they've used those people for before is to stop a peaceful protest.

[422] And the way they stop a peaceful protest, they turn it violent.

[423] And then they have the authorization to go in and break up the protest and arrest people.

[424] And that has been done.

[425] That absolutely has been done.

[426] It was done with the World Trade Organization protests in the early 2000s.

[427] They did that in Seattle.

[428] That shit has been done.

[429] They do it.

[430] It might be late 90s.

[431] But they fucking do that.

[432] That is a government tactic.

[433] And say you have a good protest and it has a good meaning and a good thing.

[434] And that's bad for you if you're the government.

[435] You're trying to like, I don't really like this shit.

[436] What do we do here?

[437] Let's get some fucking assholes to go in there and start some shit.

[438] We haven't let these people leave their house in two months.

[439] They're going to do some dumb shit, right?

[440] So we'll just start bashing up shit.

[441] You know what?

[442] Let's plant some fucking bricks.

[443] Maybe we put some bricks on the street where all these people are going to come.

[444] They're going to fuck all this shit up.

[445] Yeah, the brick thing was weird.

[446] You know, in some circumstances, the bricks actually were there because of construction.

[447] That's been proven.

[448] There was one that was a synagogue in North Hollywood.

[449] And there was these, like, bricks set up right in front of the synagogue.

[450] We're like, this is fucked up.

[451] Like, what is this about?

[452] Turned out even worse.

[453] That bricks had actually been there for a long time.

[454] And they were there to keep people from driving into the synagogue.

[455] They were to stop a car from smashing through the front windows and killing people.

[456] So they were worried after like the Pittsburgh mass shooting and a couple of other mass shootings.

[457] They were worried about their synagogue.

[458] So they set up these bricks to keep some fucking psycho from driving a car through the building.

[459] Which is, I mean, almost worse.

[460] I almost rather them.

[461] I mean, we have that everywhere though, right?

[462] We have that in like Sunset Boulevard or wherever.

[463] They'll be like concrete posts.

[464] Like, that's a, that's a normal thing, I think.

[465] I guess, but this is weird.

[466] I saw the one of their bricks.

[467] Because it was, like, set up by these folks that ran the synagogue, and they fenced in.

[468] Because the city didn't even protect it if they had to do it themselves.

[469] Yeah, I'm pretty sure.

[470] I mean, I think the city probably approved it.

[471] Right.

[472] But it's a weird.

[473] See if you can find.

[474] I saw the picture.

[475] They're in, like, cages, right?

[476] Yeah, yeah.

[477] It's weird.

[478] It's a good thing you can buy at Home Depot, I guess.

[479] Oh, you can?

[480] For that reason?

[481] In case you run a synagogue that's being targeted by white supremacists.

[482] Maybe the city's not got you back.

[483] You're not worried about the cops showing up.

[484] We're going to put these rock piles in front of your shit.

[485] It's just this whole COVID and then the George Floyd protests and then the riots and the looting and everything.

[486] Really highlights how fragile our civilization is.

[487] Really shows everybody.

[488] Yeah.

[489] And how easily we are controlled through the media.

[490] Easily we're controlled.

[491] I try not to watch it anymore.

[492] like it's you're just getting brainwashed and once you realize you're just being brainwashed like they just control how you feel about everything they control you hate this guy change the other channel now that guy's a good guy this guy's fuck this guy and it's just all misinformation yeah the who and fouchy one day that don't do masks you don't need masks the next day oh you need mask Como needs 50 ,000 uh ventilators and it puts them all in the nursing homes and all the nurse people die yeah let's not talk about that yeah that's the question Cuomo nursing home thing is a giant scandal man. He let those people go back to the nursing homes.

[493] They infected and killed thousands of people because of that.

[494] And so his numbers go straight up, you know?

[495] And then, like, why are we incentivizing, if we even go into the cold?

[496] I mean, why are we incentivizing hospitals to say that they were COVID deaths?

[497] What is the purpose of that?

[498] It makes no sense.

[499] I think the idea was because this was a new disease, and they required more financially.

[500] like financially, it's more difficult to treat those people, that they allocated more money towards people that had COVID.

[501] But when you do that, you do incentivize people to mark deaths as COVID.

[502] Yeah, there's people that get shot and they were like, well, you had COVID when he died.

[503] But did they test them for COVID?

[504] Well, it doesn't matter.

[505] Just wrote it on there.

[506] But there are also, apparently there have also been a bunch of people that died and weren't COVID tested that they do believe died because of complications for COVID too.

[507] So the idea is that it could even possibly balance it out.

[508] they don't know but there are a lot of people that have like here's a deceptive one that I've read it was really fucked up they were talking about this kid who was uh I think he was 17 who died from COVID and they said uh he was uh they said he was healthy no under no other health issues they said but then you read the article deeper it turns out he had diabetes he had type 1 diabetes and he was 400 pounds and it's like wait a minute the that's not no issues.

[509] These articles are full of shit and they write those articles just so that you click on them because they get the fucking ad revenue from clicks.

[510] So they're incentivized to trick you into being scared.

[511] You're like, oh my God, a 17 year old died?

[512] What happened?

[513] My 17 year old can die.

[514] Holy fuck and then you click on it and if you don't read six, seven paragraphs into the article you don't find out that this was a 400 pound diabetic kid that could have died from the flu.

[515] three months earlier and it would have been the same shit.

[516] Oh yeah.

[517] You know?

[518] So the numbers are fudged.

[519] So I don't want to believe your numbers.

[520] Don't come to me with more scared tactics about like the numbers are spiking.

[521] Well, you already said that 50 % of the positives are false positives.

[522] Well, at least finally they're saying when they say that the numbers are spiking, I haven't heard the 50 % are false positives.

[523] I got a video that was the chick that was with Fauci, the other one.

[524] She was saying 50 %?

[525] Yeah, I don't know how old the video was, but said that our testing is, we're, coming up and if you have one percent of whatever and we test it then 50 you know 50 you're about half of the positives are false positive Jesus and then don't wear a mask and you have to wear a mask and they said the whole reason we have to flatten the curve is because it can live on anything for up to like nine days and even an asymptomatic person can still transmit it then it comes out they say the exact opposite yeah now they're saying asymptomatic people very very rarely transmit it.

[526] I don't choose to believe that, Joe.

[527] I'm going to believe what they told me the first time.

[528] There's a lot of people who do say that.

[529] Not the new facts that they have now.

[530] So we're still going to wear masks all the time.

[531] Yeah, people get mad at you if you suggest differently.

[532] There's a lot of people that like being scared too.

[533] And they're like, fuck you.

[534] Where are your goddamn mask?

[535] We need to protect people.

[536] Love it.

[537] But meanwhile.

[538] If there's no police, who's going to protect you and you?

[539] Who's going to protect your family?

[540] Me?

[541] Meanwhile, there was no, these people weren't freaking out when you're seeing these mass protests and the spikes guess what happened right after the protest and at least they're saying that now at least they're saying they're being forced into saying is probably connected to the protests well of course or it's just one more way to get the people to get let's scare them to stop revolting let's get them let's get them chill out you got now the numbers are spiking guys do you think it's that calculated that that's what they're doing I think there's a lot of calculated shit going on there's too many weird things going on I'm like Who's calculating it, though?

[542] I think that it's Dr. Evil.

[543] I think it is.

[544] He's alive.

[545] I think that they're in like their thing.

[546] Next, we're going to launch the sharks with laser beams on their head.

[547] What happened to murder hornets?

[548] They came and went real quick.

[549] I was really worried about them.

[550] Aliens, bro.

[551] I'm putting it out there.

[552] Aliens will come.

[553] Aliens are coming before the election.

[554] The alien thing is interesting because there's quite a few, like, real legitimate studies, including black op studies that are going to.

[555] on right now on aliens, particularly after the David Fravor incident, which was an Air Force incident that was off the coast of San Diego, that was all documented in terms of the speed of the aircraft, the fact that they were tracking it, the fact that it blocked their tracking systems.

[556] So it was an active object blocking their tracking systems.

[557] And it also went from something like right above the surface of the water to 60 ,000 feet in a matter of a second.

[558] Like, whatever the fuck that thing is, it violates all laws of propulsion.

[559] And all those Air Force guys were saying, yeah, we've been following these things.

[560] They've been down here for the last few weeks.

[561] Like, every now and then we'll see one.

[562] And they'll hover above the water and dunk down into the water.

[563] They don't know what the fuck they were.

[564] And, you know, this David Fravor guy who's like a rock -solid, button -down military man. He is not a bullshit artist.

[565] He's not a guy who needs a lot of attention.

[566] He came on the podcast and relayed his experiences with this thing.

[567] And there's not just one of them, and they behave very similarly.

[568] They've had them on the East Coast.

[569] I'm doing a terrible job of giving all the facts about how they operate and how they move, but they defy all the known laws of propulsion.

[570] They have no idea what they are.

[571] They have no idea where they're coming from.

[572] They don't know what they're doing.

[573] But these things behave in some really almost supernatural.

[574] way in terms of like what we know about physics and this is like unclassified now or this is recent well the government's come out and said i mean they've they've openly said there's a real issue trump says he's heard very interesting things about roswell side of an alleged UFO event president was asked by his yeah that was nonsense though did you see that interview first of all the whole interview was weird like donald trump junior is interviewing Donald trump and he's not even doing it like he's his dad you know like if i was sitting there with my dad i'd be like all right Dude, tell me what's up.

[575] What's going on with the aliens, pops?

[576] So what's going on with the aliens?

[577] What do you got back there, dude?

[578] And also, I would ask that question four fucking years ago, day one.

[579] I'd be like, come on, dude.

[580] As soon as you walked me in.

[581] Let's talk aliens.

[582] I would run for president just to find out.

[583] I think you should run for president, Joe.

[584] You should absolutely run for president.

[585] Listen, I get canceled for all Joey Diaz's conversations.

[586] You could do like the presidential addresses and just do a stand -up bit the whole time every time that would it would have to be that it would have to be like some seriousness and some like some but you know life is so preposterous and it's more preposterous now than it's ever been before it's not and then meanwhile there's no stand -up the only person doing stand -up right now has been there's a few guys that just started doing shows I'm actually in Houston this weekend for the first time in three months I haven't done any stand -up Chappelle's doing regular shows in Ohio really he's got a outside wedding like a pavilion and he's got it set up where everybody's socially distanced they all wear masks in the crowd they have Chappelle masks so they'll have like the sea on their masks they're in the crowd and it's my buddy Donnell did it and he said he loves it and Dave's like listen man I got to do something I got to figure this out it's all been approved by the governor everybody's you know distanced six feet apart.

[587] They all maintain social distancing during the show.

[588] They wear masks during the show.

[589] How long are we going to keep doing this?

[590] Texas governor urges people to stay home as states report surges of new COVID -19 cases.

[591] Yeah, you want to see the photo of the Austin protest?

[592] You've seen it?

[593] It's crazy.

[594] You know, Austin, which is the most progressive city in Texas, had this insane protest, which, listen, I think is great.

[595] I do.

[596] I think it's great that people want to show solidarity.

[597] that people want to get out there and let everybody know that they're not down with police brutality and that they're down with racial equality and that you got all these thousands and thousands of people together to have the same positive message.

[598] I love it.

[599] However, that COVID doesn't give a fuck about racial equality or social justice.

[600] If you're not healthy, it's going to get you.

[601] I don't know, man. And the case is spike.

[602] But the other thing about Texas is, a giant percentage of it, I think somewhere in the neighborhood of 50 % is actually in prisons.

[603] So when they're talking about statewide issues.

[604] Do you have an image?

[605] Because I can get an image for you.

[606] I got a good one for you.

[607] Oh, that's a good one.

[608] Yeah, that'll cause a problem.

[609] Look at all those fucking people.

[610] But one thing they have found out, if you guys are going to protest, protest during the day.

[611] And this is why.

[612] There's been a new study that came out that said that.

[613] COVID -19 dies almost instantly in contact with sunlight.

[614] Didn't Trump say that like two months ago?

[615] And everyone said he was crazy?

[616] No, he was saying like put light into the body.

[617] No, he said 80 degrees.

[618] He said when the summer comes, the heat kills it.

[619] Yes.

[620] But it's not the heat.

[621] It's actually light.

[622] So the nighttime is just as dangerous in the summer as it is during the day.

[623] It's not a temperature issue.

[624] I'm sure some temperature kills it.

[625] Joe, this thing is not real, bro.

[626] No. This is not real.

[627] it's not real bro it's not real it is the fucking flu yeah please let's do it deep it's not real you don't think it's real i think that the flu is real i think that people get sick from the flu every year and die i think that it's a it's a bad thing i don't think that all of this nonsense that's going on and they keep keep perpetuating it and keep perpetuating it and keep perpetuating it's come on i just i just not buying it anyway i just you guys you change your your views you change your opinions it's like it's like if you were the writer of a TV show say friends your job would be to write a 30 minute episode that was funny and intriguing and dramatic and fucking scary or whatever the fuck and like the the media just writes an episode and then the next day they're like write a new episode and write a new episode and like change their shit I understand what you're saying such bullshit I understand what you're saying I'm going to give you a different perspective okay this is the different perspective the different perspective the different perspective is legit biologists have analyzed the actual virus itself and they find all sorts of problems with this virus.

[628] I had Brett Weinstein on the podcast the other day.

[629] He's a professor, a legit biologist.

[630] And he was discussing all of the indicators in the virus that seemed to point to the fact that this has probably been leaked from a lab and explained it in terms of the way viruses evolve.

[631] I'm going to do a terrible job of paraphrasing it because I'm a moron and he's brilliant but when he said in the long run what he's basically saying is this is a very legit virus it's very complicated because of the fact that it's been fucked with because this is not a virus like you know like a regular cold or like anything else that we've encountered before this is something that's really complicated and may have evolved because it came from a lab his perspective is it may have evolved to transmit better indoors and it's very vulnerable to UV light, which also might be part of it being from a lab and not something that existed in the wild that actually just jumped from a bat to a pangolin, to a person, or what have you.

[632] So legit scientists and biologists who are not a part of the narrative, they're not working for any government agency, they're not a part of the news media that's trying to transmit propaganda, they are concerned with it, and they're concerned with it for very specific scientific reasons.

[633] Now, me as a person who doesn't know what the fuck any of that stuff I just said means, really, I just repeat it.

[634] It sounds like I'm smart.

[635] But the smart people actually are worried about it for very specific reasons that it could explain to you.

[636] Now, it's not vulnerable.

[637] For a lot of people, they're not going to be vulnerable.

[638] Like pro athletes, we were talking about those NBA players that get it.

[639] Listen, those are top of the food chain stud athletes.

[640] They shake it off.

[641] They're not experiencing any symptoms.

[642] You know, over and over and over again.

[643] There's a lot of people that get it.

[644] Idris Elbra shook it off.

[645] There's a lot of people that get it.

[646] Shake it off.

[647] They barely get it.

[648] They barely even know they have it.

[649] But they're really robust, healthy people.

[650] The concern is people that aren't, old people, people that are vulnerable.

[651] When they get it, man, they get it bad.

[652] And I was reading an article today about a woman who's been sick with COVID for 100 days now.

[653] And she still has days.

[654] So she has like these horrible flu -like symptoms and she gets real easy.

[655] But I think she has multiple sclerosis, and she's got some other underlying health conditions.

[656] So those people have to really be worried about this, because it's not predictable, and they don't know how to treat it totally, especially in the beginning.

[657] It turned out when they put people on ventilators, my buddy, Michael Yo got it, and he got it early on.

[658] And his doctor told them, if I put you on a ventilator, you're probably going to die because your body's going to stop breathing for itself.

[659] It's going to let the ventilator do all the work.

[660] The ventilator, like 90 % of people put on ventilators I think it's 80.

[661] 80 % for anything ever die.

[662] Is that true?

[663] I don't know.

[664] That's what I heard.

[665] It sounds terrible.

[666] Say 80%.

[667] So when Coma is like, we need 40 ,000 ventilators because who are you saving when 80 % of those people are going to die?

[668] The thing is though, like I think the ventilator, one way you could look at it, the ventilator is such a last ditch effort that by the time you get to the, what is that?

[669] What are you got there?

[670] Oh, Budweiser.

[671] Nice cold, delicious, butt heavy for you, my friend?

[672] What a good man, he brings his own beer.

[673] You fucking stud.

[674] I come with all kinds of gifts.

[675] Oh, I brought you some Ignite stuff, too.

[676] Oh, nice.

[677] Dan sends out the damn Bill Zarian.

[678] He told him he's writing a book.

[679] I think he did write his book.

[680] Look at, there you go.

[681] This is dog stuff, right?

[682] Yeah, that one's for Marshall.

[683] Oh, yay, he'll love it.

[684] My dog's been using it, too.

[685] It's really good stuff.

[686] Okay, cool.

[687] You know, Dan, everything's the best.

[688] Yeah, no, I'm sure.

[689] he's uh it's funny how he's jumped balls deep into weed and CBD yeah right look at that dog CBD it even says it on there I fucked up with CBD MD and I took some of their dog CBD it was delicious peanut butter flavor I think it's fine though I'm sure why not it's just CBD but they make it flavored for dogs what's that cool ass more shit yeah this damn Gulzerian you generous fellow all right okay Cool.

[690] CPD and t -shirts and shit.

[691] What is the bull for?

[692] What is the all that?

[693] What is the ram's head?

[694] I think it's a goat head.

[695] It seems satanic.

[696] I asked him once about it, and I can't remember what the answer was, but I think it's always been like his thing.

[697] That's like Satan, right?

[698] What is the one, the devil that has the goat head?

[699] Is it Biazabu?

[700] Sounds good.

[701] It sounds like that would be correct.

[702] All right.

[703] Thank you, Dan.

[704] Thank you, Satan.

[705] No?

[706] Who is it?

[707] Which one?

[708] you gotta be careful you know you get people so high that they get super paranoid and they look down with that goat head baffamette oh baffamette that's right I've seen him on things before that's like something Duncan would know a lot about I was trying to think of Duncan I think of words he said about yeah come on man hey Dan why is that guy on the cover of your fucking box why is that goat dude with eagle wings the goat dude man that guy's creepy as fuck with his pentagram on his head oof this is interesting Houston ICU capacity could soon be exceeded as COVID -19 hospitalizations worsened.

[709] And then all the videos come out and it's like people and going to the hospitals and there's no lines that they're trying to make it out to be, you know, there's a lot of, there's a lot of fuckery going on with this misinformation, man. And that's, just a little bit of that going on.

[710] There's a little bit of that.

[711] There's a little bit of that.

[712] But there's also real shit going on.

[713] Okay, Dr. Peter Hotez, he's been on the podcast before, National School of Tropical Medicine diseases, tropical medicine at Baylor College of Medicine.

[714] He's a brilliant guy.

[715] Yeah, it says the city of Houston, which is known for its medical schools, has a large concentration of beds and research hospitals and whatnot, and they're very close to running out of all of their ICU beds.

[716] He said he called on the state to reimpose more aggressive social distancing restrictions.

[717] See, he's not a foolish person.

[718] If he's saying this, he's a legit scientist and a doctor and he knows a tremendous amount about diseases.

[719] I met him many, many years ago.

[720] He kind of freaked me out because we were doing this, I interviewed him for this sci -fi thing, and he was telling me that people that live in tropical climates all have parasites.

[721] I'm like, all of them?

[722] He goes, all of them.

[723] So everybody's got something.

[724] He's like, you're living in this, like, soup of moisture and heat, and it's just a perfect breeding ground for all these diseases.

[725] And a lot of these third world countries, poor folks that live in these tropical climates, he's like, they all have it.

[726] And when he was saying that, I was like, well, that course, it makes sense.

[727] There's no antibiotics, no medics.

[728] It's probably like just a normal part of life to have all these different parasites.

[729] Like people used to just drink.

[730] And their immune systems gets better off of it?

[731] Or they just live with it?

[732] No, man. Maybe they just live with it.

[733] It might be both.

[734] You know, some people's immune systems might be stronger.

[735] But like creek water.

[736] Like, that's what people drank, man. They just drank creek water.

[737] And you would get beaver fever.

[738] You'd get jardia.

[739] It was a normal thing.

[740] You know, people, like, here we talk about Mexico, right?

[741] People always say, don't drink the water.

[742] Don't drink the water.

[743] Well, they're fucking drinking the water.

[744] They drink the water all the time, right.

[745] But their system is just more, it's more tolerant of it.

[746] Or they're just used to shit in their pants all the time.

[747] Maybe a little bit of that.

[748] Maybe a little bit of that.

[749] That's just, yeah.

[750] But I imagine, like, beaver fever's got a, Jardia is probably killing people.

[751] I mean, you're drinking, like, horrible bacteria.

[752] I know people have died from E. coli.

[753] I wonder if they died from Jardia.

[754] Does Jardia kill you?

[755] Because that's a normal thing you get if you drink out of a creek.

[756] So your guy that you were talking about, the really small.

[757] Mark guy.

[758] Peter Hottes?

[759] He says it was made in the lab then.

[760] Okay, no, that's Brett Weinstein.

[761] Brett Weinstein, yeah, he's the biologist.

[762] He said, he does not talk like that.

[763] He's not say, like, it was made in a lab.

[764] He's like, all indications would point to.

[765] He's one of those guys.

[766] And but he's, he's never like, so therefore it does.

[767] So that would support the Wuhan lab that's not far from the Wuhan?

[768] Rarely does Jardia infection?

[769] Yeah, real close.

[770] Rarely does Jardia infection cause death, but each year 4 ,600 persons with Jardiasis, was they are estimated to be hospitalized in the United States.

[771] Hospitalization, usually primarily children under five and dehydration are the most frequent co -diagnosis.

[772] Huh.

[773] Yeah, probably dehydrated and then you drank that shitty water.

[774] Like the fact that dehydration is like one of the co -inciding factors.

[775] Like, yeah, dude.

[776] Or that dirty water gets you so sick that you piss and shit all of the water out of you.

[777] Yeah.

[778] It's like baby shit dehydrated when they're sick, right?

[779] Yeah, that's probably a better perspective.

[780] That's what pediolites for, right?

[781] Yeah, yep, yep.

[782] Do you take any electrolytes?

[783] Like, with your training?

[784] Not really.

[785] Dude, I just started over the last year.

[786] I started taking one of my sponsors.

[787] They sent me this liquid IV stuff.

[788] Electrolites make a big fucking difference.

[789] Yeah, it makes a big difference in how quickly you hydrate.

[790] It makes a big difference in stopping cramps.

[791] It stops all the cramps.

[792] I heard of being dehydrate, any level of dehydrate.

[793] like reduces athletic output by like 20 percent or something something a lot i've been fucking sounding the alarm on forever we've got to stop weight cutting right guys right i want i want people to fight healthy and i want them to fight for as long as they can look dc had kidney failure before and that's why he didn't get into the olympics at one point kidney failure daniel cormier you know he's had real problems from cutting weight man it's fucking terrible for you that's why he fight so good at heavyweight yeah you know when he's at heavyweight he doesn't have to deal with any of that bullshit he can just eat and train and just recover when you're dehydrating yourself to that extent to the extent that some guy like paolo costa that motherfucker chale son he had a video he had on youtube i urge you to go to chel sand's sonn's youtube and listen to him talk about it he was watching paul coaster's 230 plus pounds he cuts down to 185 for a fight that's insane that's insane how a load does he get before it's just water i don't know man you got to see the video of him now he looks like a fucking heavyweight you know because he recovered from surgery right so he had um i believe he severed one of his biceps after his fight with joel so he had to get it reattached and it's a long recovery process so uh i guess he just got big he's huge man well it's like anthony johnson he was like fighting at what 70 170 i remember when he was on the local circuit out here and he's fighting at 70 and then keep going up keep going up keep going up the thing is if he can make 70 for the first you know few minutes until his body starts giving out holy shit that dude's terrifying what weight class he's in terrifying as a light heavy weight motherfucker bro icing people like Glover to Shera with one punch as a light heavy weight and he just throws everything with zero fucks I love it he's like you're going to take me down warm fucking giving it you got an iron chin That's a big factor Like Anthony can take it You can't just put him out He hit so goddamn hard Manor The fucking Minotaro punch When he clipped him with that uppercut And flatlined him He did the same thing to Glover He just can He could take people out With one shot like nobody else in the sport And Glover was on like a 20 fight Or something crazy Went chic right Well he lost to John Jones before that John Jones did some really clever shit in that fight and he did something that I'm kind of amazed that people don't do more often.

[794] John had an overhook on Glover's arm and they were in the clinch, and John wrenched his fucking arm up in a way that I've never seen anybody to do before.

[795] Like mirror lock style?

[796] Yeah, yeah.

[797] Like almost, you know, like a shoulder lock.

[798] He got him in some kind of a shoulder lock.

[799] And he did it from there, right?

[800] So John has his arm, like he's got, Glover's got an, he like gave him the underhook.

[801] And John's got his arm.

[802] And John, he's right there.

[803] and John fucking yanked his fucking shoulder and afterwards Glover's telling me he's like oh my shoulder's fucked he kept fighting the fight with it but made a big impact on his ability to throw the right hand and grapple it was pretty there at savage shoulder crank it was pretty savage man it's pretty savage and what's interesting is again it's not let's see it let's watch it very rare man look at that oh and did a couple times dude I mean he's he fucked his shoulder there and we all have fucked up shoulders anyway everybody does just so bad such a weird joint yeah and for a guy like John who first of all has massive leverage this is a terrible Cosmo oh Cosmo's a G he's a bad motherfucker shout out to Cosmo such a bad motherfucker that's a dude who fought sage Northcut in 1FC and nobody saw that coming I saw that line up but I was like bro this is totally what's going to happen they want that to happen for sure there's something about one fc and i'm not i'm not saying the ufc wouldn't do the exact same thing because they absolutely would yeah but they would love to have those guys coming and have them go over there and get their ass kicked the only one who's like proved everybody wrong is not even proved everybody wrong what proven is greatness in that regard is dj because dj's still dominating mighty mouse is still dominating even over there they're throwing their best killers at him and he's still dominated yeah but he's just so technical he's so good he's so good if you want to teach somebody like you want to show somebody what like the best is like mighty mouse yeah not no argument do i say the goat is john jones and i say the goat is john jones because john jones has beat everybody in his fucking division he's never lost to anybody anybody you can't look at john jones and the guys he beat like a polo coaster he's fucking huge fucking insane he's huge it's fucking insane look how big he is he's so big so chale son his video's excellent he says he's 230 plus pounds and look not fat gigantic so john i think john's the goat john's beat everybody he turned back every single challenge he's never lost once the only fight that he has an l was the disqualification of fight he was totally dominant in my hamill if anything that fight should be changed to a no contest and and also that rule should be amended it's a silly rule it doesn't make any sense super stupid rule it's one of the dumbest rules that we still keep that's again another thing where i say like We all know it's stupid, but they don't change it.

[804] You know what's crazy, dude?

[805] It's not even the best elbow.

[806] Like, you know it's not the best elbow.

[807] No. That's not the best elbow.

[808] Like, you're an elbow expert.

[809] You can speak to this.

[810] Yeah.

[811] You're stitching up Joe Schilling.

[812] It's not great.

[813] It's not a great elbow.

[814] It's not a great elbow from Ointai.

[815] Like, the downward elbow is like, it's G shit, for sure.

[816] It's G shit.

[817] Love doing that.

[818] For sure doing that.

[819] If you could step on a dude's thigh and on bach, I'm right in the fucking dump.

[820] Oh, yeah.

[821] I mean, I've never been, I'm not going to onbock anybody, but like a jump elbow, like I'm, Anytime I fought in Thailand I always had at least one or two of those in the fight For sure I'm going to throw that But that's not the power That's not the most dangerous Like they wait You know you've told the story a hundred times But they thought because he could break blocks of ice that that It's too dangerous That's literally what they said But meanwhile that that position Doesn't even exist on the ground anyway If they understood leverage of like the human body The position of whoops The position of standing Oh I just killed the light Oh sorry We have this floating magnetic light that I just killed did I pull the thing out of the plugs over there what was I just saying John Jones is the goat Mighty Mouse The elbow's not the best So that's the only reason why John Jones ever lost Is because he did the downward elbow Right And most people thought that stop Which is ridiculous Come on man he just won the fight He won the fight You can't take it away from him for that And that had almost no impact On the fight He was going to fuck him up He was fucking him up before that.

[822] He was going to fuck him up there.

[823] They should take away that rule, first of all.

[824] But two, you can't take that and turn it into a loss.

[825] That's not a loss.

[826] And it's always a gray area anyway when you do the elbow.

[827] Every time I ask them about it, and they're always like, you know, as long as there's an arc, you show me an arc. If you watch that video, you could definitely show that there was some sort of arc on some angle, and it's not that big a deal.

[828] And my hand was getting his ass kicked anyway.

[829] He was getting his ass kicked.

[830] It was not changing the impact.

[831] He was getting smashed by the goat.

[832] that's really what it was for sure so there's him john jones this is the top of the food chain i think just but by results undeniable but then technical it's mighty mouse mighty mouse is the most technically gifted guy i've ever seen inside the octagon i don't mean gifted in any negative way like he just didn't have to work for it i mean talented i mean just but he puts it together gifted in that he had mat hume for an instructor for sure that's a big actor because that guy is a real bona fide martial arts wizard and has been for a sense i can remember it always was the guy that people were talking about you know he knows so much rich franklin he was champ was working with him too and um you know he actually fought pat milletitch way back in the day dude those guys were like legit pioneers but mad hume's always been super super technical so you got dj who's like matt hume who's like one of the great minds of the sport and then you got this is star pupil is like the most spectacular, talented, and technical fighter.

[833] In terms of, like, just overall technique, I think Mighty Mouse is the most spectacular example of mixed martial arts I've ever seen.

[834] And as, like, a champion and as, like, a marketable person never gets in trouble, never, you know what I mean?

[835] Just super nice guy.

[836] Super nice guy.

[837] If John Jones had an asterisk, that would be, like, his asterisk, right?

[838] But, like, John Jones is wild motherfucker.

[839] That's what he is.

[840] Also a wild motherfucker, so be careful.

[841] He's wild.

[842] mistakes, he's going to do wild crazy shit.

[843] He's also going to open up on Mauricio Shogun Huah in the youngest ever time a person wins the UFC title opens up that fight with a flying knee on Maricio Shogunhua.

[844] Who the fuck does that?

[845] You've got to be a wild motherfucker.

[846] You got your tile fight, you're 22 years old, you're in there with a fucking legend from pride and you open with a flying knee and stagger him and wind up stopping them.

[847] Whatever, right?

[848] That's the goat.

[849] That's the goat.

[850] but then he got Anderson Silva in his prime like ooh Anderson Silva his prime was terrifying when he front kick Vitor in the face when Anderson Silva was in his prime when he smashed Chale Sondon in the rematch even when he caught Chale Sondon in a triangle off his back in a fight where he went into that fight with fucked up ribs he probably shouldn't even taking that fight and Chale just kept taking him down he couldn't stop the takedown and eventually got him in a triangle off his back and it's like oh shit he's got him the Rich Franklin fight Oh, my God.

[851] We beat Rich Franklin.

[852] It was like, no one had, like, what is this clinch that he's doing?

[853] What is, you know?

[854] No one, was that crazy for you to watch?

[855] Because you were already fighting Muay Thai.

[856] Yeah.

[857] And it was like, Rich didn't know how to defend the clinch.

[858] But it was still at that level on the thing, it was fucking phenomenal.

[859] And then it was like the spectrum of it.

[860] Well, he was one of the most technical strikers ever at that point.

[861] Like, we had never seen a guy who moved that good.

[862] And I had seen him fight a bunch of times.

[863] pride but then when he went into greatness was like when he was like 30 -ish because that's when he started fighting in cage warriors with uh tony frickland the backward elbow backward elbow on tony flickland and that's he fought um uh god damn it he fought quite oh lee murray that was a big one that was when lee murray was a straight up killer we talk about lee murray every time i'm on the show you have to great story every time you have to talk about it he's a goddamn guy richie movie.

[864] Lee Murray is a Guy Ritchie movie.

[865] He's a human guy Ritchie movie.

[866] For people don't know who he is, he robbed a bank with a bunch of other dudes, and they got away with like $500 million.

[867] And then he jetted off to Morocco for a little bit, was hiding out over there, and then eventually got caught, and now he's in jail.

[868] It was actually at one point in time he was losing weight to try to slip in between the bars.

[869] He was convinced that if he could get down to a certain weight, he could get through the bars.

[870] This should be a movie about him, for sure.

[871] I think Guy Ritchie has got to be on the case.

[872] If anybody's making that movie, it's going to be Guy Ritchie.

[873] Yeah, that would be great.

[874] But, yeah.

[875] Jorge Rivera, too.

[876] That was another fight over there.

[877] When he fought Jorge Rivera in Cage Warriors, that was the one where he let him punch him in the face.

[878] You remember that?

[879] He understood right in front of him.

[880] He stood right in front of him.

[881] And he just, go ahead.

[882] And he punches him, he turns his head.

[883] He punches him, he turns out.

[884] And he's like, marches him down, starts kicking his ass.

[885] It's crazy.

[886] I don't remember that.

[887] See if you can find that.

[888] I don't remember that.

[889] It's one of those ones where Mark Delagrote was in Jorge's corner.

[890] And he said he's seeing him punch Anderson in the face like, oh, shit, he's going to fuck him out.

[891] Oh, shit, he's going to fuck him.

[892] And he goes, when Anderson feels nothing and doesn't even react, like, oh, no. Oh, no. Because, I mean, he tees off with like several clean punches on Anderson.

[893] And Anderson's letting him do it.

[894] And then Anderson just starts marching him down.

[895] and beating them up and that that was what i was accustomed to so i got seen those big three fights over in cage warriors and so then when he came to the ufc and he fought chris leban i was like oh my god bet the house on the brazilian oh for sure here it is right here this is the fight and this is and by the way that this organization it's cage warriors right cage rage cage rage yeah that's right cage warriors is a big organization now in england okay that's right cage rage so this organization they use cargo net for fence instead of uh instead of chaneling fence it's a cargo That's right.

[896] That's right.

[897] This organization had some great fights, man. There was some really big fights that came out of here where guys like these two were going at it and then eventually Anderson rolls on to become the goat.

[898] And this was like Rivera had been fighting in the UFC with much success.

[899] He was a good guy, a very tough guy.

[900] But this was a fight where Anderson just kind of showed how far ahead he is.

[901] So he's standing right in front of him.

[902] marching him down and at one point in time just lets him start punching him he just knew how to move away from shit just enough and the thing about a guy that fights like anderson it's you know he's at such a fucking insanely high level for these three or four years this fight the vitor fight the two fights with rich franklin like i really feel like for an athlete a real elite athlete like this is the time like look at this he's like standing in front of him in the clinch and he's letting him punch him in the face.

[903] He hit him like three or four times in the face.

[904] Like, look at this.

[905] This is the scene.

[906] Look, he's just letting him hit him.

[907] Look, look at it.

[908] Look at this.

[909] He's letting him hit him.

[910] And that's when Delagraithio was like, oh, no. Because Jorge is a big puncher.

[911] So for Anderson to clinch with him and let him punch him in the face like that.

[912] And then just start marching him down.

[913] They were like, I'm like, how do we win this fight?

[914] And this was Anderson in his prime.

[915] And then Anderson in his prime, well, you know, when he fought Chris Leav, and that's Anderson in his prime.

[916] Right.

[917] There was quite a few fights where he exhibited an insane level of ability.

[918] Yeah, the Leibman fight was like...

[919] Oh, my God, it was terrifying.

[920] Holy shit.

[921] This dude just fucking iced you.

[922] Yeah, I had a few friends come to that, and I was telling him, like, dude, go bet on this guy.

[923] I think he threw, like, every shot he threw.

[924] It was like, do, do, do you know, everything landed, and then finished.

[925] Yeah, and that was back in the day, they didn't know anything.

[926] Like, the line, the betting lines, they were wacky.

[927] guys would come in and people didn't know like that you gotta bet on that guy like bet on that guy they don't know who he is oh my god he's gonna fuck everybody up there was a few of those guys but no better example than Anderson like they're pretty hyped on Anderson being here but it wasn't nearly it should have been like a thousand to one odds you know that was one of those fights where he's just like oh my god there's a perfect style to you know Matador because Leibin was so powerful and so tough and he would take one to give one like you can't take one to give one with Anderson Silva Not that level.

[928] Anderson's like slick and moves his feet and stays in Leibman's like a fucking truck guy, you know?

[929] It's not hard to hit.

[930] But the way Anderson pulled it off was like fucking poetry, man. The combinations he hit him with, just poetry.

[931] Just, you know, if you're a fan of like beautiful timing and poise under pressure.

[932] Because Leibon's coming with nuclear bombs, right?

[933] Leibon knocked out Vandolet, remember?

[934] And Leibman's thing was he's dangerous when you hit him.

[935] It was after you could.

[936] I mean, Leibon was like four or five.

[937] or a couple of fights in a row where Leibman got like drilled and would come back probably rocked it blindly and knock a guy out cold one of the best left hands ever there's a few fights like that he had a few crazy wars but when he knocked out van der Leis Silva I was like holy shit Chris Leibin you just knocked out the axe murderer but he was that guy if he clipped you man you had real problems he's a tough motherfucker too but that style was tailor made for Anderson so I think like you you there's an argument about Anderson too there's an argument like if you look at years you know like years of being amazing there's an argument that he's uh i mean god damn there was a few years where Anderson was just almost untouchable yeah but then you look at like George St. Pierre yeah you know like good argument there too almost his whole career he was untouchable consistent and then when he did lose a fight he came back and like you know justified it and did it well and I I think, like, he's got, he's got to be up there.

[938] Oh, he's got to be up there.

[939] At, like, every level of the fight game.

[940] I would say right beyond, under DJ.

[941] Yep.

[942] He's, he's, uh, in the conversation, right?

[943] I think there's a real problem with having a goat, a goat, because they're all fighting different divisions.

[944] Well, and it's of all time.

[945] And of all time hasn't happened yet.

[946] Yeah, it never ends.

[947] It never ends.

[948] You know?

[949] But who the fuck is going to beat John's record?

[950] Like Chuck Ladell in his day.

[951] Oh, he was like, oh, yeah.

[952] Chuck Ladell was like my idol.

[953] my hero you know yeah he was uh it was interesting that ramp page was his kryptonite you know rampage was his kryptonite over in pride and it just shows you like it's styles you know for sure some guys have a style to beat certain guys but just some people will figure their number out you know it's such a weird sport man there's so many things going on you know it's just your transition from going through moitai to kickboxing to M .M .A. I mean, you're one of the rare guys like you and Gaston and there's a few other dudes who have really competed in all of the major combat sports other than boxing.

[954] Do you have any boxing fights?

[955] I set the U .S. record for the fastest knockout in U .S. history.

[956] Did you really?

[957] A much pro boxing debut.

[958] Thank you very much.

[959] No shit.

[960] When was this?

[961] Five seconds.

[962] Oh, man. It was a fuck.

[963] I don't even know.

[964] Dude, I didn't even know you boxed.

[965] I had like three professional boxing fights.

[966] I had about 15 professional amateur box advice.

[967] Yeah, I fought a Hollywood Park Casino.

[968] I fought a guy.

[969] I was supposed to fight Fernando Vargas' brother, and he pulled out like the week before the fight, and they got some guy from Wild Card.

[970] And this guy, like, idolatist Mike Tyson, I guess.

[971] He's like, what is his name?

[972] Italian guy.

[973] And he had a Mike Tyson tattoo on the side of his face.

[974] Oh, my God.

[975] And he's got, you know, black high tops with no socks and the black shorts when we get in the ring.

[976] I'm like, and this dude just looks not there.

[977] Like not there, you know?

[978] Like a bad cop?

[979] Like a bad cop.

[980] Like, you just see him on site.

[981] Like, this guy's not all there, right?

[982] So it, like, stares me down.

[983] I go back to the corner.

[984] And my coach, we haven't been training for the boxing fight.

[985] But he's like, I was like, man, this dude's going to rush me. And he's like, don't fucking kick him.

[986] He's going to rush me around the bat.

[987] He's like, hit him.

[988] So, like, in boxing, you kickboxing, they always, like, walks through the same.

[989] center kind only like okay ready to fight uh boxing in m -ma that you know you're ready over there you're ready over there ready to go so they he says you know ready to fight ready to fight come on through and i take like one step forward and i put my left hand out because i know the guy's going to rush me and sure enough he just starts sprinting he's like running over and he's going to throw the overhand right and i was like oh shit and i dropped step through the right hand he ran into it knocked him out cold and it was five seconds if i would take him it was tied for the world record at the time or the world record was four seconds the U .S. record was five seconds and if I would have taken one step for one more step before I planned and put my foot out I would have set the record but anyway yeah I have a pro boxing dude the first big the first big thing that Glory did at the forum was that the last man standing event the one that you were at?

[990] Yeah last man standing was that the first big event they did at the forum first one at the forum yeah That was crazy, man. They had glory 10 the year before, which was when I won the tournament.

[991] I fought Artem and Kingo Shemizu.

[992] Yeah, the Ardum -Levin fight was awesome.

[993] And the knee that you caught him with on the way down, too, was perfect.

[994] Man, I still, I guess it didn't matter.

[995] I won.

[996] But I think I knocked him out with the Superman.

[997] And when he was falling on the way down, I woke him up.

[998] I hit him with the knee, and I woke him up.

[999] I've done that a couple times in my career.

[1000] Isn't that crazy?

[1001] You could actually wake someone up with a punch?

[1002] You would think you wouldn't care, but it eats at me at night.

[1003] I'm like, fuck, I could have had that.

[1004] You know?

[1005] You never know, though.

[1006] That's speculation, right?

[1007] Right.

[1008] I don't know.

[1009] He definitely had him fucked up from the punch, too, but I felt like the need did more damage.

[1010] I felt like it helped.

[1011] Want to see it?

[1012] Yeah, absolutely.

[1013] I want to see it.

[1014] Get Joe Schilling drops Artem Levin.

[1015] And he was a bad motherfucker, man. That guy's so interesting.

[1016] Bad motherfucker.

[1017] Interesting style.

[1018] You know, weird.

[1019] Tricky.

[1020] He's like a real technician, very, very, like, slick, very hard to hit.

[1021] And he'll throw shit with.

[1022] like no telegraphing particularly these low kicks they come out of nowhere there's no step he just smacks them in there on you sometimes like he'll do it all he has like all these change up speeds and if you ever watch like fade or fight he does like a lot of like I don't know if you'll understand it but like Russian boxing is a little different they have like a little different footwork and their movements and stuff Fador does come on that stuff and Artham for sure does it a lot yeah he's he's slick man he's real slick this is a great fucking fight by the way this is the very end so art sim is real tall and he's real real hard to hit I had a real hard time reaching him with punches so every time I would throw the right hand he would lean back just out of just out of range where I couldn't reach him and uh that's why I threw the Superman punch so I could jump just let some of this roll Jamie a few feet farther just yeah let some of it roll you just let it roll it doesn't matter my favorite knockout of yours ever though was Simon Marcus that was crazy That was crazy, because that was a wild -ass fight and had to go four rounds.

[1023] And you were there for it.

[1024] You felt the arena that night.

[1025] Oh, my God, dude.

[1026] That gave me hope for kickboxing.

[1027] It really did.

[1028] It gave me a lot of hope for kickboxing.

[1029] Because I was like the forum is fucking packed and the fights were wild, man. I mean, it was a wild event.

[1030] When you threw that right -hand haymaker and caught Simon Marcus on the chin, you see his jaw snapped sideways and his mouthpiece go flying out, that was one of the prettiest knockouts ever and also because of the fact the fight was so close it was so much chaos that fight was wild dude and he dropped you in the second was in the second round yep second round and it was like oh shit it was a fucking war man there was so much heavy bombing on each other and this is a tournament you had to fight four times that night three times three times dude and we had fought twice in the past and we had a lot of a lot of animosity oh yeah I mean yes you know a lot of tension a lot of animosity we uh just competitive drive Glory kind of got big in the US we're just after we had started the Muay Thai had started growing in the US lion fight started doing well and a lot of that happened because of Simon and I's two fights and lion fight like I started Can't Stop Crazy we started doing our own interviews we're like giving like talking shit back and forward like there was like a hype behind behind the whole thing we bet our first purse for the fight.

[1031] Oh, wow.

[1032] On our first fight?

[1033] Yeah, our first fight.

[1034] We bet our purses.

[1035] Mine was a little bigger, so I matched his purse, but it was still, like, in the media, it was, like, known that we were betting our purses on the fight.

[1036] It was we sold out the Hard Rock, the Pond or whatever for, was the Pearl, the Pond?

[1037] The Pearl, the Pond, yeah.

[1038] You had some wild fights with him.

[1039] So then when we came back later, he'd beat me twice, beat me twice.

[1040] So you had to give him up your.

[1041] purse.

[1042] Yeah, when I lost.

[1043] How bad that's up?

[1044] It was like six grand, but I was only making like, not only think it was that much, it was like, I think he made like three grand.

[1045] I mean, I went home with like a thousand bucks which at the time was a lot.

[1046] It sucked.

[1047] It was terrible.

[1048] And I wanted the rematch.

[1049] And then we had the rematch and there was contrary issue behind that too.

[1050] And then years later we fought and glory and it was like redemption.

[1051] I knocked him out on the extra round.

[1052] It was fucking dope.

[1053] Fourth round, man. I'll never forget it.

[1054] Because after the third, I was like, what?

[1055] They got to go one more round of this?

[1056] Because it was such a fucking crazy fight i was gonna bring this uh glad you brought that up so remember the uh everybody's talking about this week in the fight where the drysdale they was telling them to stop the fight and he was like drysdale's like just trying to be a coach try to keep it going and whatever there's a lot of people saying if the fighter says he doesn't want to do it anymore or whatever that's simon marcus fight after three rounds now i didn't wasn't begging my coach to stop it but i did not want to go another fucking round and i was like oh did i win and i think you're going to do one more And I'm like, fuck, I can't do one more.

[1057] I don't want to do one more.

[1058] I can do one more.

[1059] My coach is like, fucking, you can do it one more round.

[1060] There you are right there.

[1061] Then we do it.

[1062] This is it.

[1063] Boom.

[1064] Nope, that's not the punch.

[1065] A lot of fighters experience that.

[1066] And it's the coach's job, I think, to keep them, to try to keep them going.

[1067] So I'm on, I'm on Drysdale side on that.

[1068] But ultimately, he didn't fight anyway.

[1069] They stopped it, right?

[1070] Yeah.

[1071] Well, ultimately he did.

[1072] But it was very, very controversial.

[1073] But I get Drysdale's position.

[1074] And listen, in retrospect, like after the conversation is over, yeah, maybe you should have called it when the guy said, call it.

[1075] But in the moment, he doesn't know that he can't talk the guy into fighting and then maybe the guy wins.

[1076] Like, you don't know what a person's psychological mindset is like unless you train with that person.

[1077] Right.

[1078] And there are some people that you can talk into performing better.

[1079] Right.

[1080] That said, he took a lot of fucking punishment in that second round, right?

[1081] Maybe he knew something.

[1082] Maybe it was a good thing to stop.

[1083] There's sometimes when your body's just broken.

[1084] there's sometimes when you shouldn't go on and this debate I think is very healthy the debate of whether or not the coach was right or whether or not the guy was right ultimately the guy's right because he can't go on so he doesn't and he quits and he's you know that's his decision what he only he knows what was going on with his body you remember when Gerald McClellan got criticized for taking a knee against Nigel Ben I don't know if you remember it but that's the fight that put Gerald McClellan in a coma and and severely handicapped him.

[1085] Gerald McClellan at the time was a fucking assassin, man. He was so scary, but he was another guy that cut way too much weight.

[1086] He cut a lot of weight, man. It was hard for him.

[1087] He was really big.

[1088] And so when he would get into the – I forget if he's fought 168.

[1089] I think he was fighting in Roy Jones' division.

[1090] He was 168 or 175.

[1091] Yeah, pull up Gerald McClellan versus Nigel Ben.

[1092] This was the Dark Destroyer, because Nigel Ben, it was a wildest.

[1093] fight too, Nigel's got crazy dreadlocks, and Jeremy McClellan knocked him through the ropes in the first round because he would smash people.

[1094] He would just smash people.

[1095] He was such a, it was a cronk guy, right?

[1096] So he fought like a cronk guy, just moving forward behind the jab, big right hands, just nasty, vicious puncher.

[1097] Well, Nigel Ben gets up and he makes it through the round and then turns into a war.

[1098] And then Jerome McClellan starts getting tired.

[1099] And then they clash heads.

[1100] And then Nigel Ben hits him with a couple punches late in the fight.

[1101] And when Nigel Ben hit him.

[1102] See, like this is early on.

[1103] I mean, this is, look like this, go a little earlier than this so we could see this combination.

[1104] But this was Gerald McClellan, and everybody was, like, real keen on him fighting Roy Jones Jr. This was when Roy Jones was in his prime.

[1105] And this was, like, the big challenge was Gerald McClellan, Roy Jones, Jr. Everybody was thinking that was eventually going to have to happen because Gerald was just smashing people.

[1106] And Nigel Ben was tough, man, fucking tough.

[1107] But look at this.

[1108] Boom, boom, boom.

[1109] He's like, he's out.

[1110] man and he falls through the fucking ropes you could see he's like really out of it but so tough and so conditioned that he makes it back look that barely can get through the ropes got a lot of seconds there though right that's probably more than 10 seconds so anyway and look at the referee there's more seconds and gerald still teeing off on him and nigel survives it doesn't seem like he's going to survive but he fucking survives so then late in the fight Nigel's making a comeback so scooch way ahead here.

[1111] And when Nigel starts teeing off on Gerald and Gerald's punches are coming real slow and he's getting tired and Nigel starts connecting.

[1112] And I mean the crowd is going fucking bananas.

[1113] It is a wild ass fight.

[1114] And at one point in time, they head butt and then Nigel hit him with some punches and McClellan takes a knee.

[1115] And everybody's like, I can't believe this.

[1116] He's going to quit.

[1117] He's going to quit.

[1118] And then he goes to his corner and then he slumps and goes unconscious like he knew something was wrong and anybody anybody that criticizes in the moment you know they were saying I can't believe he's doing this I can't believe he's fucking he's just gonna quit but he knew something was really off only the fighter knows I mean maybe it's psychological but maybe something's wrong man maybe he can't think maybe his brain is just fucked maybe he knows he's not gonna be able to punch right maybe he knows there it is so he goes down and just decides to stay down he's like something is fucking really wrong.

[1119] He's like out of it.

[1120] And you see this is, I mean, Gerald, he just looks something, it looks wrong.

[1121] Something looks wrong.

[1122] You know, he's hurt, bad.

[1123] And Nigel Ben is moving in for the fucking kill.

[1124] And he drops him there with an uppercut, and this is where he quits.

[1125] See, now, this is where, like you see him, he's struggling, man. But if I remember correctly, the commentators were shocked that he decided to stay down.

[1126] Yeah.

[1127] he's quit so they said it that way and you know I think they were you know expressing some shock that he quit and pretty pumped that Nigel Ben beat him but they didn't know you know and Gerald McClellan that injury scared the fuck out of everybody because he was you know one of the golden guys he was one of the guys that everybody was excited about it was like if that happened today you know to uh Ryan Garcia or someone like that you know someone who's uh you know, real exciting, up -and -coming dude, someone who's, you know, Canello.

[1128] Like, if Canello just, I guess Conno was a bigger star than Gerald.

[1129] But when someone who's of that nature, like an elite, super -elite fighter, winds up going into a coma like that.

[1130] That's fucking terrifying shit.

[1131] And he came out of it, okay?

[1132] No. No, he didn't.

[1133] He died.

[1134] No, he's all fucked up.

[1135] Oh, really?

[1136] Yeah, he can't see.

[1137] And, you know, there's been some videos of Roy Jones, Jr., visiting him.

[1138] But apparently that was responsible for Roy Jones kind of altering his style and being very safety first and really, yeah, and just thinking about eventually, you know, getting out of the sport, which is ironic, right?

[1139] Because he wound up fighting later and later and later and it was a lot.

[1140] I mean he had his last fight just a couple of years ago.

[1141] Right.

[1142] Right.

[1143] That's crazy.

[1144] It's a wild ass sport.

[1145] You're in Joe Schilling.

[1146] Yeah.

[1147] All the aspects of it, whether it's boxing or Muay or MMA.

[1148] And when is Bellator going to start having fights again?

[1149] I don't know.

[1150] I haven't heard from them.

[1151] They're playing it safe, huh?

[1152] I guess so.

[1153] They don't have a fight island, I guess.

[1154] But yeah, I'm not.

[1155] You can have fights on Hill crowds.

[1156] They're letting people do that.

[1157] Are they doing that?

[1158] I mean, UFC's done a few of them.

[1159] Man, no, UFC's done it.

[1160] They test the fuck out of you.

[1161] Yeah, I was there with Daniel Rodriguez.

[1162] That's right.

[1163] And Eddie Bravo.

[1164] Yeah.

[1165] And, yeah, we were tested.

[1166] Tested when we first got there, and they made to take our temperature every day.

[1167] and they just bought the whole hotel so there was yeah yeah i was there we're social distance the whole time yeah i think it's um oh no i wasn't there for that one that was the Vegas one right um i think it's uh it's okay the way they're doing it's it's working out for everybody guys getting to fight we're all getting to see that like that says something about ferguson versus gaugie to have that in an empty arena was there was something wild about it for sure there's something wild about no crowd for sure I think it added everything.

[1168] I think it added.

[1169] I mean, I don't think it's the right way to do it.

[1170] I think it's best with the crowd.

[1171] But it's not a bad thing to have no crowd.

[1172] No. Yeah.

[1173] It's mean, maybe guys can fight better, too.

[1174] There might be guys who can, like, stay more calm because there's less energy.

[1175] Yeah, for sure.

[1176] I could see a lot of people feeling that way, probably.

[1177] Yeah, probably, right?

[1178] Because, God, damn, they've had some fucking wild fights.

[1179] That Gaichi Ferguson fight was insane.

[1180] What a fucking fight.

[1181] How do you watch that fight and you're not a tremendous fan of both of them after that?

[1182] Both of them.

[1183] Both of them.

[1184] Yeah, I mean.

[1185] Both of them.

[1186] Dude, Gagie is a stud.

[1187] The fact, he just figured out.

[1188] He just figured out how to just take a little bit off.

[1189] Take a little bit off.

[1190] Step away a little bit sometimes.

[1191] Come in at angles.

[1192] Faint sometimes.

[1193] Don't just maul people because he was just breaking people's will before, you know?

[1194] I think Trevor Whitman and his relationship is like really special.

[1195] Yeah.

[1196] I had a lot to do with him, him being able to say exactly what he needed to hear to do what they did.

[1197] It was really, it was really impressive.

[1198] There's that for sure.

[1199] Whitman's a bad motherfucker, and he's very smart, and God, he loves Gagie and he loves his athletes and he loves a sport.

[1200] No doubt about that.

[1201] You know, Trevor's a wizard.

[1202] He really is.

[1203] But Gagie's something special, man. Something special about that kid's mind.

[1204] It's his body for sure.

[1205] He's got, you know, awesome skills.

[1206] One of the best, like, leg kickers in the clinch I think I've ever seen.

[1207] right like he knows how to like while you're tying up in the clinch he'll fucking just a little little step and a nasty leg kick he's fucking a gas tank and a workhorse and a fucking throwing bombs and like and walks to the cage like he's getting to his truck to go to work in the morning like there's almost like there's no emotions there's nothing no nerves no weirdness no craziness I don't remember the exact quotes I'm not even going to bother saying it but it was something fucking iconic as fuck he was talking about it the fight is like he's either gonna knock me or I'm gonna knock him out and that's just the way it's gonna be and it was he said it way you could read it and not respect the fuck out of them the way he said it was dope that's the way he fights too yeah I mean cool dude even the fights that he's lost the pourier fight and the Eddie Alvarez fight fucking amazing fights man and he almost lost the Michael Johnson fight Michael Johnson had him buying real estate on queer street he was dancing all over the place I mean it was it was wild that he survived that Because Johnson has a nasty left hand, and he clipped him with several punches, like big shots.

[1208] He had Gagie wobbled, like real wobbled.

[1209] That's one of those fights could have easily gone the other way.

[1210] Johnson could have caught him with one more shot.

[1211] The Porier fight, too.

[1212] The Porier fight was anyone could have that fight.

[1213] Yep, anyone could have had that fight.

[1214] And Poirier's leg was shot, man. He chops legs like nobody, man. Crazy because he came out.

[1215] He's a wrestler.

[1216] Wrestler.

[1217] Never wrestles.

[1218] No. Never wrestles.

[1219] It doesn't wrestle anybody.

[1220] buddy but that's what makes him so dangerous for kabeb right because kabib is the wrestler who always wrestles obviously showed he could drop connor obviously shows he's fast as fuck with his hands on his feet he's dropped guys before but he's not going he's not a kickboxer in the sense that like gaigi is right when you see gaigi fighting he's basically a kickboxer i mean with a wrestling background and skill so that you can't take him down so he's forcing the kickboxing but he stands straight up You know, he's standing like a striker.

[1221] He stands like a striker.

[1222] Like, so does Jorge Mazvedal.

[1223] Yeah.

[1224] He stands straight up.

[1225] Man, his striking is really, like, really good.

[1226] Dhing really good.

[1227] His fight with Nate was fucking awesome.

[1228] Nasty.

[1229] He's so good, man. So good.

[1230] So clever.

[1231] So good.

[1232] So funny.

[1233] He's hilarious.

[1234] I think he's hilarious.

[1235] I really like both those guys.

[1236] You know what else he is?

[1237] He's fucking mean.

[1238] It's a mean dude.

[1239] There's something, like when they asked him about the Ben Ascran shot, was it necessary to punch him again?

[1240] on the ground he goes it was super necessary that became like a big hashtag super necessary it's hilarious I think it's hilarious but hey man he's in the fucking hurt game you can't play your bullshit for sure nonsense in the hurt game and if everybody's picking a a gimmick or whatever then trying to push and everyone's trying to be Connor why not be yourself who's fucking yeah yeah you're mean you're you're mean yeah and super talented so slick so much experience people don't know that guy knocked out Eve Edwards with a head kick and bow dog.

[1241] Eve Edwards.

[1242] And Eve Edwards is a slick striker, especially back then.

[1243] That was Eve Edwards when Eve Edwards was arguably the best 155 pounder in the world.

[1244] That was after he knocked out Josh Thompson, that highlight reel where he throws that round kick off the spin.

[1245] Spinning back fist, then he throws a round kick and catches him right in the net.

[1246] It's still like the UFC's little clip.

[1247] And it's Josh Buck and Thompson is one of the toughest guys to ever live.

[1248] Another monster.

[1249] Another monster.

[1250] I mean, that was the last guy to knock out Nate.

[1251] Before, uh, the head kick, yeah, before Mazvedal had stopped him.

[1252] He was the first guy to ever stopped Nate.

[1253] Right.

[1254] You know, and Josh is as good as it gets, you know, when you see that fighting, I mean, that was two guys who easily could have done the same to each other.

[1255] And just timed it and played out that way.

[1256] Eve landed the perfect shot and it was a neck kick.

[1257] It was just fucking spectacular.

[1258] At that time, Eve was thought to be absolutely one of the very best fighters in the world, probably the best 155 pounder a lot.

[1259] 100%.

[1260] The UFC changed the division.

[1261] They gave up the 155 division back then.

[1262] I remember it.

[1263] It was very disheartening.

[1264] Because I was like, there's so much talent in this division.

[1265] But they were hemorrhaging money, man. This is all pre -ultimate fighter.

[1266] They didn't know what they were doing in terms of like the future.

[1267] They were $44 million in debt.

[1268] They were like, what are we doing?

[1269] We're going to sell this?

[1270] Are we going to keep it?

[1271] They just had their balls, though.

[1272] Lorenzo Fertita, Frank Furtita, and Dana White, all three of them have balls.

[1273] They were just like, let's just ride.

[1274] Let's let it ride.

[1275] They were calling Dana up going, Look for a buyer.

[1276] Let's find a buyer.

[1277] We've got to get out of this.

[1278] We're not going to lose our family's fortune.

[1279] We're a 44 million dollars in the hole in this cage fighting shit.

[1280] Obviously, this is too brutal for America.

[1281] They're not really into it.

[1282] But then they figured it out.

[1283] That ultimate fighter show, they financed the whole show, paid for all of it.

[1284] Paid for the whole thing.

[1285] Paid to be on the network.

[1286] And then boom, that one final fight with Forrest Griffin and Stefan Bonner.

[1287] And these two crazy fucks are beating the shit out of each other.

[1288] And it is a wild melee of a fight.

[1289] And the viewership just keeps going up during the fight.

[1290] Millions and millions of people watched during the fight, like tuned in, extra people tuned in.

[1291] Because people were calling their friends like, bro, you got to watch this shit.

[1292] This is nuts.

[1293] And this spec, people didn't even know what it was.

[1294] Like, what is this?

[1295] What do they got little gloves on?

[1296] What is happening here?

[1297] Well, before the ultimate fighter, there was fans of UFC or cage fighting or whatever, but they didn't really get to know who Chuck Liddell was that much.

[1298] You know, they didn't get to know those people.

[1299] and with the ultimate fight there was Yeah They got to know these people There was like a thing that grew And then you saw this insane fight It couldn't have played out better Yeah I mean Couldn't have played out better God damn they nailed it And then boom And that was a Craig Polygian show He was a guy who did Survivor Like he knew how to do Those reality shows Oh really?

[1300] Dude he's a G He's one of the like The greats in terms of that genre That guy knows how to make those fucking shows That's why it was so good You know It didn't feel like A clunky reality show It was a fun reality show to watch So that all Oh they're bringing it back by the way Paolo Costa And Israel Adesanya Oh really?

[1301] Really Holy shit Tell me you're not gonna watch that I'm for sure you're gonna watch that That fight is a wild fight man Yeah You know because I want to see Izzy and John Jones though Honestly I do too I do too But Izzy and Costa Has to happen man When you see what Costa did to Yoel Romero walking down Yoel Romero Who the fuck walks down Yoel Romero?

[1302] There's a picture I put up on my Instagram of him head kicking Romero.

[1303] I mean just clean.

[1304] Just clean.

[1305] Shand to the head.

[1306] And you see Romero's crazy skull like turned sideways?

[1307] I'll tell you something that Dana White told me. Yoel had an injury in one of his fights.

[1308] He had some sort of fractured orbital.

[1309] Some minor fracture of his the bone around his eye.

[1310] After the fight.

[1311] Yeah, after the fight.

[1312] During the fight, he got it, right?

[1313] After the fight, they sent him to a doctor.

[1314] The doctor calls the UFC.

[1315] He goes, where did you find this guy?

[1316] And they go, yeah, he's a stud, right?

[1317] No, no, no. You don't understand.

[1318] Like, I've never seen.

[1319] The guy was like, I've practiced medicine for almost 50 years.

[1320] He goes, I've never seen a person who's built like this.

[1321] He said the tendons in his eyes are three times larger than a normal person's.

[1322] Like, here's it.

[1323] Does that it?

[1324] Well, that's one of them.

[1325] He had kicked him several times.

[1326] But there's one image.

[1327] There's an image that I had on my Instagram that it's so crazy.

[1328] It just kept beating head kicks over and over and over.

[1329] Oh, this is the entire thing.

[1330] Bro, he just, there it is.

[1331] That was the one that was on my Instagram.

[1332] He just head kicked him over and over again.

[1333] Look at that.

[1334] That's the picture.

[1335] What the fuck, man?

[1336] The guy's just made out of metal.

[1337] And all the guys who fight him say that, too.

[1338] Like, Luke Rock, look at that.

[1339] I mean, come on, man. He just, Jerich Brunson just clanged his shin off of his head.

[1340] In the back of the head.

[1341] Yeah, the back of the head stays up.

[1342] Uriah Hall and him are going to fight.

[1343] That's a great fight, August 22nd.

[1344] He's the most terrifying specimen.

[1345] So the doctor was saying, like, what is going on with this guy?

[1346] Like, he's built, like no person I've ever seen in my life.

[1347] And so what the UFC was trying to figure out was Cuba has always had a very aggressive athlete program.

[1348] And they've been involved in all kinds of weird shenanigans.

[1349] And they're tightly connected to the Soviet Union, particularly back then.

[1350] And he was on the Cuban Olympic team.

[1351] And, you know, the Soviet Union has done some really weird shit when it comes to, you know, like experiments on athletes.

[1352] And you saw the movie, Icarus, right?

[1353] Do you ever see that movie?

[1354] I don't think so.

[1355] You need to see that movie.

[1356] I might have seen it.

[1357] It's about this guy who is.

[1358] He's worked, the guy who made the document, what is Brian's last name again?

[1359] The guy who made it, pull up the image of it.

[1360] It's a Netflix.

[1361] Icarus.

[1362] Fogel, that's right.

[1363] Sorry, Brian.

[1364] I smoke too much weed.

[1365] So he's, this is what, so what he decides, what Brian decides to do is film himself competing in an endurance race, a bike race, and then do it the next time, next year, juiced up.

[1366] So he does one year, and he does this whole thing, and then he gets in touch.

[1367] It's an amazing documentary.

[1368] Then he gets in touch with this Russian guy who's going to teach him how to do it.

[1369] And this Russian guy works for the Russian anti -doping agency or whatever they call it over there.

[1370] And the Russian guy, in the middle of this happening, in the middle of doping him up, it turns out that they catch the fact that the Russian team had basically taking, in the Sochi Olympics, They basically taken all of the piss that was like the clean pit, the piss that people had samples.

[1371] They removed them through a hole in the wall and replaced them with clean piss.

[1372] So every single athlete had their piss swapped out.

[1373] And this guy, who's the Russian guy, is explaining this all to this Brian Fogel guy.

[1374] While this is all going down in the news, he just stepped in shit.

[1375] So this is all going down on the news that they caught the Russian sports, whatever the fuck they're.

[1376] are.

[1377] They figured out these, there's micro scratches inside these bottles that indicate that there were these removal, unremovable bottles had actually been removed.

[1378] And they figured out how to do it with some sort of a tool, but the tool left scratches on.

[1379] And they figured this out, and then they found this hole in the wall, like a hole that big, where they would, I would hand you some dirty piss, you would hand me some clean piss, I'd replace the piss.

[1380] And so they did that with all the athletes.

[1381] So all the Russian athlete, most likely, were juice to the fucking gills.

[1382] No, no, no. They did it.

[1383] The athlete's just pissed.

[1384] But his perspective was it was their job to be on steroids.

[1385] They all were on steroids.

[1386] This wasn't like they didn't get to choose.

[1387] It wasn't like they're cheating.

[1388] Like the government is making sure you cheat.

[1389] Right.

[1390] And they're going to take care of you.

[1391] Right.

[1392] Dude, it's crazy.

[1393] Crazy.

[1394] It's an amazing documentary.

[1395] So what happens when he, everybody, was his time?

[1396] He has to go to witness production program.

[1397] So the guy comes to America.

[1398] Oh, yeah.

[1399] Everybody's smashing.

[1400] Oh, no, no. He actually got injured a bunch and actually his time sucked.

[1401] And the second one.

[1402] And I think his battery broke.

[1403] like something broke on his bike something fucked up on his bike too like he had some problems and so he didn't wind up doing that well that steroids work and instead he proved that well he proved that he gets injured but along the way he didn't you know he didn't plan on doing really good on juice but he just got fucked up a bunch of times and he wound up being hurt and didn't perform that well it won the Oscar for Best Documentary and it should have it's amazing but once he did it and he starts interacting with this Russian cat who's teaching him how to do all this stuff what is the guy's name Gregorov Yuri what's his name Gregorov these goddamn Russian names Grigory Rochenkov oh there it is okay Grigory Rodchenkov yeah that it is so that's the guy and I mean he basically spills all the beans so once he realized is like he's on the run by the way they take away his family's money they take away all they take away their home they made him homeless they made his family homeless he had to leave behind his wife and his his kids like he's fucked like it's not good and he's hiding in america he's probably in south dakota right now a dive bar with fucking four goons standing over shoulders looking out for russians i mean he's fucked and and he told the whole truth of how they did it why they did it the way they've done it always in the past and it's not a coincidence that Russia, like the amount of gold medalists they got from that one Olympics was just staggering.

[1404] And then the Olympic Committee removed them from the next one.

[1405] Like they weren't able to compete, like a lot of the sports.

[1406] They weren't able to compete in the next Olympics.

[1407] Yeah, remember that.

[1408] Yeah, it's crazy.

[1409] But he was also detailing how crazy it is that the Olympic Committee and the World Doping Agency, the WADA, is it WADA, whichever one it was, that test them.

[1410] They're all like, they work for each other.

[1411] Like this guy will go to work for there and that guy will go to work for here.

[1412] They're all buddies.

[1413] We're friends over here.

[1414] Carl Lewis, he's a good guy.

[1415] He's a good guy.

[1416] Get rid of that piss.

[1417] Here, take my piss.

[1418] I'm clean.

[1419] And, you know, that was one of the things that they had said about, like, Lance.

[1420] You know, like Lance Armstrong getting tested for a tour de France.

[1421] Like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, fucking everybody's on it.

[1422] You got a dirty sport, man. Like, if you want to take away Lance Armstrong's, what is it, a green shirt or something like that.

[1423] What do you get?

[1424] Yellow jersey for being a bad motherfucker on a bike.

[1425] If you want to give it to the next person in line, it was like 18th place.

[1426] It was like 26 or something fucking astronomical.

[1427] Bill Burr had a great bit about it.

[1428] It's like our psycho's better than your psycho.

[1429] That's what it is.

[1430] You're all a bunch of fucking nuts.

[1431] You're all taking drugs.

[1432] Like the from Russian perspective, those gold medals were worth it to them to fucking ruin that guy's life for lying about it, right?

[1433] Yes.

[1434] Well, they want to kill him.

[1435] For sure.

[1436] They wanted to kill Rigorov, whatever his name is, the Russian scientist.

[1437] They wanted to kill him.

[1438] That's why he's hiding.

[1439] He's probably going to have to hide for the rest of his life.

[1440] I mean, this is just the life he chose.

[1441] Terrifying, man. Just really terrifying.

[1442] But also the same thing that happened in China, Beijing Olympics.

[1443] Chinese won like they won so many gold medals.

[1444] Yeah, wasn't it?

[1445] Like the little tiny gymnastic girls were on Jews or something.

[1446] They all felt right.

[1447] Sure, dude.

[1448] Sure they were in juice.

[1449] All the, uh, the ballerina chicks, like the walking on the beam.

[1450] Can you imagine juicing up a little baby?

[1451] Like, you're going to do the best backflips, honey.

[1452] Take a little of this antedral 50.

[1453] Get a big old fucking.

[1454] We're going to band your feet up really small and lose all your toes so that you can stand on your toe better, you know.

[1455] Oh, did they do that?

[1456] They had, yeah, there used to be a thing like, uh, China would, they would take babies and when, when they're females and baby or whatever they would like tie their feet up really tight so their feet would not grow and they'd be really small yeah but that was just for aesthetics right it was like a sign of something yeah like a lot of the women can't walk because their feet are tiny because whatever because have you ever seen the images of the feet when they bind them what you're about to Jamie Chinese foot binding it's like people do weird shit man like I have friends who have those big ear holes Like, that's okay.

[1457] Shout out to Boogie, my friend Richie Martinez.

[1458] He's got big old ear holes.

[1459] I had a student at the gym that I'm like, bro, you can't spar with that.

[1460] You're not going to be able to fight like that.

[1461] He's like, no, it's cool.

[1462] And he would take the big hole and flip it over the top.

[1463] Oh, my God.

[1464] And I'm like, all right, you can spar.

[1465] Look at that lady's feet.

[1466] He looked terrible.

[1467] Bro.

[1468] Look how her toes are tucked under her feet.

[1469] So her little toe is tucked under, and she stands on her toenail.

[1470] It's dug into a groove in her foot.

[1471] Just goes to show you how flexible people aren't pliable.

[1472] Like look at her.

[1473] There's her standing around with her husband.

[1474] He's like, hmm, still too big.

[1475] Look at that.

[1476] That's so nasty.

[1477] Look at her feet, man. That's a little juice for her.

[1478] Go back to that other picture of hurt with her feet out.

[1479] That's crazy, man. Imagine doing that to yourself.

[1480] That has to hurt like hell.

[1481] She's looking down on them.

[1482] Yeah, and they hurt like hell for, you know, years yeah right forever right well yeah just to the process oh yeah to get to that to start to get to that yeah well that's it's crazy it's absolutely crazy that they do that but look at those little tiny shoes that she's wearing I mean it is absolutely crazy but it's almost crazier what they used to do to heads like in ancient cultures where they would flatten heads out to make them look like aliens and stretch them out ever seen any of that while they were alive yeah when they were young they would take babies and while the the children were young and one of this is a really really freaky thing when they started finding these skulls they're like what are we looking at are these aliens they were trying to figure it out because your skull is a lot more pliable than you think especially when you're young yeah the baby is really really soft so they they've developed this like thing where they would put like planks on the side of the kid's head fucking clamp it down and they would stretch their head out like an alien because it's like nobility to have a large skull or I don't know man I think it's I don't know when Africa they put like those those weighted rings around the women's neck and then it looks like their neck is really long but really they just like compress their shoulders down there and they have like and it's super bad for the neck when you take that shit off your neck's your head's going to fall off for sure like that's holding your head up now for sure they probably snore terrible too right yeah those rings you got anything from me yeah the article said that it's the reason why they did that was similar to the reason Victorian women would do the waist stuff it was like a status symbol so like three inches was the best for feet four inches was a little better five inches and above was like ah look at that waist that's so gross and it wasn't there another time I think maybe it was before this where like being fat was like a sign of nobility or whatever yeah man if you were a fat you're like a fat chicks were the thing because it showed you had money yeah yeah when I was in Thailand the guys would always wear like white white powder all over their face like bleaching powder because if if you were too tan then it showed that you were like a worker and you worked outside so everybody would always try to bleach their skin white it's crazy yeah oh that's dark oh yeah they would always have like an umbrella they didn't want sun they're like hiding from the sun all the time they didn't want to get too dark nurse Rachel the Filipino lady she was explaining that to us that's one of the reasons why people like glutathione.

[1483] Glutothion apparently can make your skin lighter in some doses.

[1484] What else is glutathione for?

[1485] Glutothion is something that helps you recover from alcohol.

[1486] It helps your body process alcohol a little bit better.

[1487] It's got a bunch of functions.

[1488] I'm the wrong person to ask.

[1489] It's real good for you.

[1490] You want liposomal glutathione.

[1491] It's the best in terms of like unless you get IV, you can take it as a supplement.

[1492] But it's good for, it actually helps you get over hangovers and shit doesn't completely do it but it gives you like a little extra boost so you get like the hotel room IV in Vegas that's what they're giving you they're giving you glutathione if you ask for it yeah you should ask for it if you want to get one of them hotel IV jammies Jamie and I get one once a week right yeah we get IV vitamin drip and we get an AD it's NAD NAD NAD NAD oh here you go fuck that you think I fucked up that Gregorga guy let me fuck up NAD for you what does it do what is it for it actually helps keep you younger it helps keep your body performing younger and maybe even lengthens your telomeres your telomeres which are an indication or an indicator of your age as your telomeres get as you get older they get smaller they get shorter and this stuff apparently can somehow another lengthen it NAD has two general sets of reactions in the human body what does a NAD stand for what does it say what it stands for it means something it's like short for does it say what's that what's that picture right there yeah doesn't say it on that does it break down what it I know it means something it has a name doesn't it can you Google what does NAD mean oh there it is nicotinadamide endanine dinucleotide that was pretty good I'm tired though now you read that way better I used my monkey brain and now I'm tired helps turning nutrients into energy as a key player in metabolism and working as a helper molecule for proteins that regulate other cellular functions.

[1493] This is like a normal thing that lots of people have or this is like the special Joe Rogan secret sauce?

[1494] You can get it.

[1495] They sell it.

[1496] People can get it.

[1497] It's not cheap, but it's very good for you.

[1498] You feel great.

[1499] Yeah.

[1500] It's just I'm getting old.

[1501] and I'm willing to try anything.

[1502] When you have like 52 and you still like working out, you're like, okay, what do I have to do?

[1503] What else you got to?

[1504] What do I have to do?

[1505] What's the new, new?

[1506] Yeah.

[1507] And I'm only willing to do so much because if they're like, well, you got to drink water and no more alcohol forever.

[1508] I'm like, ha.

[1509] Or what's the other option?

[1510] I live less, but I enjoy it more.

[1511] You drink a little more water and you can still drink alcohol.

[1512] I have a complex life.

[1513] I need a little booze every now and then.

[1514] I really do.

[1515] I need a break.

[1516] I need a break.

[1517] I need a break from responsibilities.

[1518] I need a break from anxiety.

[1519] I need a break from just thinking.

[1520] From people's opinions, from war, from chaos, from arguments.

[1521] I mean, it's crazy times right now.

[1522] If I didn't, couldn't just smoke a joint, drink a beer.

[1523] I know.

[1524] Let it all sink in, you know.

[1525] The people that don't are fascinating.

[1526] Like, what are you doing with all that?

[1527] Right?

[1528] Yeah.

[1529] How?

[1530] You know what I really...

[1531] What are you doing?

[1532] Started getting into.

[1533] I've got something here.

[1534] I've got something here.

[1535] What you got there, Joseph?

[1536] This book that I've been reading.

[1537] Oh, wow.

[1538] It's called Breath.

[1539] It's by this guy, James Nestor.

[1540] Fascinating shit on the importance of breathing exercises.

[1541] Really fascinating.

[1542] Really fascinating.

[1543] Breathing exercises for what?

[1544] For all sorts of things.

[1545] Well, you know, it's one of the things that Wim Hof has always said about breathing exercises that you actually can enhance your immune system and thank you sir regulate your metabolism this guy's an upcoming guest so i just got into it last night but i'm fucking loving it oh yeah would you read about me before i came on uh didn't read that you had a boxing career oh you did oh there you go i know you man it only took us five podcasts to get there i know right i knew about your fights i'm pushing for the record are you um are you able to fully train right now?

[1546] What is the rules?

[1547] Not really.

[1548] My gym just opened back up.

[1549] Does everybody have to distance?

[1550] Is like hit a bag six feet apart from each other?

[1551] I think if you probably came in with a measuring tape, 90 % of the time we are within that.

[1552] My gym is about 7 ,000 square feet and the average class is about 12 people in it.

[1553] Okay.

[1554] So you got a nice piece of property there.

[1555] And we have a huge roll -up door so it's almost open air with the fans going and stuff.

[1556] But we take everybody's temperature before they come in.

[1557] and uh you know we're not actually sparring or anything like that yeah a lot of uh gyms are starting to open up now and just kickboxing and or uh shadow boxing and hitting the bag things along those lines but it's uh it's been great for me getting back because i was i was starting to lose it there i think sometimes you know stuck at home it's uh were you working out at home i built like a home gym and i was doing my thing and i was trying to run and stuff but it's just not it's not the same you know and then the students start coming back and and um you don't see how bad they were when they came back mentally but you see over the course of like a week or two of them working out every day how much more they open up how much more normal they seem how much happier they are and then they start letting the hat out of the bag like man I was in a dark spot and it's like I've been having an absolute blast I teach we have four classes a day I'm teaching all the classes right now and uh I think that's loving it that's beautiful I'm happy to hear that and I'm happy to hear you're able to open again I think that's awesome that dark shit is no joke man it's no joke depression is a real fucking thing it's a big part of why people are so angry right right now right now because you know there's a lot of people out there that you know maybe they do spin or maybe they do whatever the fuck they've been doing they can't do it right now they can't do any of it and there's so many people that are like losing their livelihood yep you know i think there's a lot of people that live like corporate life or have normal jobs and i'm not talking shit about that but like put yourself in someone's shoe that for they invested everything they owned everything they had, they put in all their work following this American dream, this dream, this whatever dream.

[1558] And for 14 years, 15 years, they invest everything in and then this weird flu comes along and they can't do their business anymore.

[1559] Through no fault of their own?

[1560] No fault of their own.

[1561] And it's like well, they should have had some money pushed aside or saved a side or whatever.

[1562] How come these giant these airplane companies that have been making billions of dollars for years and years on into, they get a bailout?

[1563] They get the bailout.

[1564] But Lolita's fucking whatever.

[1565] Well, the dirty secret is if they don't bail out the airlines, the airlines are not going to employ all those people.

[1566] And then everyone's fucked even further.

[1567] So they look at that.

[1568] Like, this is something we need because we need it for business.

[1569] We need for people to be able to travel around.

[1570] We need these planes run and we're not going to be able to do it ourselves.

[1571] But the dirty secret is there's not enough money to fix everything.

[1572] There's not enough money to pay all the people, all the money that we're making during the time off.

[1573] and then my uh shout out to my boy john thomas in ohio my buddy i went to high school with back in oh he has a couple uh pizzerias and i think they're oh they're allowed to open back up now but as employees a lot of his employees aren't coming back to work because they make more money on unemployment than they ever did before and they have an excuse if they make more money on unemployment than they were actually earning working there and they don't have to go back to work because they could say they're scared of covid it's fuck listen i get it if i was one of those dudes i'd be like hey man I want to die from cooking pizza bitch I get it yeah for sure I don't want to get a especially if you're a fat guy and you're like I can just hang out at home play call of duty and get paid more or risk my life to make pizza fuck out of here I still just can't wrap my brain around people still buying into all this shit is the fucking flu people die of the flu every year a lot of them die of the flu our friend our friend Eve Edwards was sick as fuck was sick for like weeks at a time in and out of the hospital this is back in like December Now, you're either telling me that COVID -19 was here before that, or it's the flu.

[1574] But now when you get, now it's COVID -19, but then it was the flu.

[1575] My other friend was super sick.

[1576] They test his antibodies, though.

[1577] They test.

[1578] That's how they find out.

[1579] They do an antibody test.

[1580] And then they say, oh, you did have COVID -19.

[1581] But, like, I had a buddy of mine who came in here who was fucking convinced.

[1582] He's like, I know I had it.

[1583] I was so sick.

[1584] Nothing.

[1585] Nothing.

[1586] He was like, what?

[1587] Or maybe he had a bad test.

[1588] He should break you the other one.

[1589] Did you see the, uh.

[1590] I'm going ham on this.

[1591] Did you see the guy in Tanzania?

[1592] It's like the president of Tanzania.

[1593] No, what did he do?

[1594] Oh, it's so good.

[1595] Jamie, you should look this up.

[1596] It's probably too long.

[1597] He's like the president of Tanzania in like Africa, right?

[1598] And it's got like super thick accent.

[1599] And he said, you know, something's going on here.

[1600] People, they sent us the COVID tests.

[1601] And we tested, we took, we took, we took, we took tests or however many tests.

[1602] and I took the dragon fruit and we tested the inside of the dragon fruit and we wrote Charles whatever and we tested it off and it was inconclusive and we took a goat and I tested the goat and I wrote his name was Sandra and she's 30 years old and works whatever and we tested her and she was positive and then I did another one with a chicken and it came back positive and did another one with the whatever and he tested all this random stupid shit and got like positive positive inconclusive Well, inconclusive makes sense If you're testing fruit And positive might make sense If it's really contagious to animals If you're in an area That has a high concentration Of people that have the disease Or You just think it's just totally a scam It's a fucking scratch ticket There's no way Guys stop buying this bullshit So you just think You just think it's What do you think those people are dying of Is this another cold I think it's a real bad flu And it's flu season And people are getting sick But you know that But COVID -19, the thing is a real thing.

[1603] I know it's a real thing.

[1604] Okay.

[1605] I know these people are dying in a way that's not consistent with dying from the flu, right?

[1606] Some of them are dying real weird ways.

[1607] Yeah.

[1608] It's real.

[1609] It's real.

[1610] I know what you're saying.

[1611] It's real.

[1612] You're fucking around in a little bit of a way.

[1613] I'm a little bit fucking around and I'm a little bit.

[1614] But you're a little bit like this is not that much different from the flu that we should have killed our society.

[1615] We killed the world's whole economy.

[1616] Yeah.

[1617] The fucking whole world over a thing that killed.

[1618] They kills less than 1 % of people.

[1619] Right.

[1620] And how do we get it back?

[1621] How do we get the world back?

[1622] How do we get it back to normal?

[1623] No one knows.

[1624] There's no road map.

[1625] No one.

[1626] No clue.

[1627] And here's the thing, though.

[1628] This is one thing in support of like those hardcore business folks.

[1629] Like they're the ones who want this shit back to normal more than anybody, right?

[1630] They're in like deep shit right now.

[1631] That's why the economy's still doing so well.

[1632] That shows you how bullshit the economy is.

[1633] the stock market is doing great the stock market there's days where the stock market's up I'm like how well show me your math how is your stock market up there's so much fuckery going on and then it's like we're supposed to trust the who right and the who says one thing and the next day I say something else let's call it the World Health Organization because the who is awesome right right you know who are you who who who come on man I'm a child of the 80s the who is I'm with you They were kings.

[1634] The World Health Organization, Fauci.

[1635] Yes.

[1636] Those people.

[1637] Well, the saddest one was when he said that the only reason we told people not to wear masks is because we didn't have any.

[1638] Well, and the other shit, how about the time we told him?

[1639] Well, then like a week later or a week after or before, he's like, oh, well, you know, masks don't actually work, but it just shows solidarity.

[1640] And it's a sign that we should do this.

[1641] And I'm like, what?

[1642] And then the other chick does 90 % of, or half of.

[1643] All positive tests are false positives.

[1644] Dude, so...

[1645] And this is normal.

[1646] Like, it's so much fuckery going on.

[1647] So much fuckery, but...

[1648] So much fuckery.

[1649] It's also they're learning on the job.

[1650] You know, they're trying to figure out what this thing is and isn't on the job.

[1651] And they can't just be honest, you know, and say they, you know, we made mistakes.

[1652] This is what we thought.

[1653] You know, now we think differently.

[1654] But people died.

[1655] Sorry.

[1656] You know, they can't say that.

[1657] People died in nursing homes that our government made them...

[1658] take sick people, whether it was the flu or whatever, not government, New York, right?

[1659] New York.

[1660] That's a dark choice, man. And then Como's brother is on CNN, like I'm locking myself in my basement for 15 days and he gets caught.

[1661] Come on, your whole family, bro.

[1662] Well, not only did he get caught, but he also did a video of him coming out of the basement for the first time.

[1663] Yeah, that was the worst thing of getting caught.

[1664] That was like you planted and made this fake scenario and your family is supposed to be all shocked when you come out of the basement for the first time in 14 days fuck off I agree with you fuck off that said I've worked in television and I guarantee you that was a producer's decision that was some network executive that wanted a video of him coming out and they had already got it planned and he just fucking jetted over to the Hamptons check out a spot where he's going to build his dope house and then came back and he's like okay we're doing it I'm coming out of the basement everybody knows I got in a fight with a guy on a bike is that okay still don't call me Fredo And so he goes up the stairs Like here I am look at this I made it out of the basement I feel for him in that situation I feel for him because I guarantee You that was some Jackass from the network That had this idea to have him come out of the basement And some sort of the theatrical thing You were just deceitful or sneaky Or whatever word it is to all of the viewers on TV I don't feel bad for him You intentionally just tricked everybody On some fake shit They didn't have to do that They didn't have to do that.

[1665] Well, that's why podcasts work, because nobody's doing that kind of shit on podcasts.

[1666] You know, they realize you don't have to.

[1667] You don't have to pretend.

[1668] Just say, yeah, I'm one of the Hamptons.

[1669] Probably shouldn't, but I stayed away from everybody.

[1670] My wife's already around me anyway.

[1671] And then some dude in the bike just came by and he was being a dick.

[1672] I was like, yeah, bro.

[1673] I'm just looking at my house spot.

[1674] I'm building a dope house, you bike riding dick, fuck.

[1675] If I survive this big COVID shit, I'm going to fucking live right next door to you.

[1676] He was, you know, he was an interesting case, too.

[1677] Apparently, he was saying at nighttime, it gets really bad.

[1678] But when he was on television, he looked great.

[1679] Like, yeah, it's bad at night.

[1680] Okay.

[1681] How about you go to bed earlier?

[1682] Well, I don't really have it, but, you know, it's part of my thing.

[1683] Are you taking vitamins?

[1684] How come nobody said that, right?

[1685] Bro, how come that?

[1686] Nobody, we closed down gyms.

[1687] Nobody has talked about food, about immune system.

[1688] None of that.

[1689] That Dr. Shiva guy was saying a lot of cool stuff, but nobody's saying it, so it must be something we're going on there.

[1690] Yeah, he's a weird one.

[1691] I don't know if he's telling the truth or what the deal is.

[1692] I started like some of the stuff that would make sense.

[1693] And then it was like you're obviously running for some court of office or whatever.

[1694] Very smart, that's for sure.

[1695] Smart, dude.

[1696] Very intelligent guy.

[1697] But, you know, he's, if you're a person that questions any aspect of COVID, you're immediately pushed into this area of someone who can't be trusted, can't listen to them, got to silence them.

[1698] You're a conspiracy theorist.

[1699] Dude, they were saying that about Elon.

[1700] The Elon podcast never trended, which is, I'm not asking, I don't give a fuck.

[1701] Like, if it trends, if it doesn't, I appreciate YouTube, I appreciate this platform, I really do, I really do.

[1702] But I think when something gets 11 million downloads in a day, and there's a bunch of other videos that don't get nearly as much, but that one's not trending.

[1703] Like, why isn't it trending?

[1704] And how much that has to do with his opinions on things that aren't sanctioned?

[1705] And one of his opinions on things was the perspective on COVID, that keeping people locked up as a mandatory thing that is not good.

[1706] It's not what this country was founded on.

[1707] And we should quarantine people who are sick.

[1708] And he's smart as fuck.

[1709] And he made a lot of sense.

[1710] And people don't want to hear that because they want to hear Fauci tell you wear a mask or don't wear a mask.

[1711] I mean, these people are health experts.

[1712] But we've proven that they've been wrong about multiple things.

[1713] Just in the two months, they have been wrong.

[1714] They have proven that they've been wrong in multiple things continuously.

[1715] Right.

[1716] But if you have a video with Fauci and it gets 11 million views, that motherfucker will trend.

[1717] Guarantee.

[1718] I guarantee you.

[1719] You can't do that.

[1720] You shouldn't do that.

[1721] I shouldn't say you can't do that because you obviously can and you did.

[1722] But you shouldn't do that because it's not good.

[1723] The best way to figure out who's right when someone who, especially in retrospect, you know, hindsight's 20 -20, but we're looking back three months at all.

[1724] all the times, the things that were wrong, all the mistakes that were made.

[1725] In January, the World Health Organization literally said it can't be transmitted from person to person according to China.

[1726] That's what they literally said.

[1727] They put it out on a tweet.

[1728] Give them that.

[1729] Everybody made mistakes.

[1730] But because of that, you can't silence people who have contrary opinions.

[1731] Because of the fact that you have all of these people that are experts in their field that have made mistakes, you cannot discount.

[1732] who's clearly a fucking super genius who's also looking at this from an additional perspective.

[1733] Here's another perspective.

[1734] Here's, why don't we just quarantine the people that are at risk?

[1735] Why don't we quarantine people who are overweight, quarantine, instead of the whole population.

[1736] Then, step two, let's figure out what the fuck this is and how to take care of it and take care of everybody.

[1737] But give people the opportunity if they choose to take a risk, to take the risk.

[1738] You can't force them to tank their business.

[1739] I mean, maybe the hindsight is 2020, but that sounds like a logical thing that should have been said from the jump.

[1740] Why do we have to make that huge mistake?

[1741] This is why, because we thought it was going to be way worse.

[1742] We thought it was going to be worse than it is.

[1743] We thought it was going to burn through the population and kill 10 % of everyone.

[1744] Sometimes those things happen, and sometimes they morph, right?

[1745] They evolve.

[1746] Viruses can change as they're going from person to person.

[1747] And they really believe that the virus that we got on the West Coast here is actually lighter than the virus they got on the East Coast.

[1748] They think the virus that came from Europe is probably more deadly than the virus that came here.

[1749] Why?

[1750] I don't know.

[1751] But there's a bunch of other factors that they never take any consideration.

[1752] You never hear people talking about vitamin D going outside, taking care of yourself.

[1753] Those people on the other side, man, those people in the West Coast, or East Coast, rather, they don't get any sun.

[1754] Do you ever live in New York?

[1755] Bro.

[1756] Been there, though.

[1757] But, yeah, I get that.

[1758] It gets dreary.

[1759] And they're just considered, like, right on top of each other.

[1760] Every subway, everything.

[1761] Think about the subway rail when you walk up the stairs.

[1762] Oh, gross.

[1763] And also in those subways, everybody's breathing everybody else's air.

[1764] There's no way around it.

[1765] You have to breathe their air.

[1766] But the big thing, like, you know, I lived in Boston.

[1767] I lived in Newton when I was a kid.

[1768] And I remember Newton was a nice place, beautiful, beautiful neighborhood.

[1769] But I remember the wintertime was so depressing.

[1770] Just look up at the sky and it was just gray.

[1771] You couldn't see anything.

[1772] you couldn't see any sun I mean the sun came through the clouds but you never saw a blue sky like for months at a time it was just gray and everybody would get bummed out and people would get real shitty with each other did you notice like when the quarantine first happened like the first two weeks it was just draining all day every day my backyard was flooding it was like terrible and it was life is awful and then all of a sudden the sun came out and it was like a couple days off it's not too bad right yeah yeah having a day off and it's raining sucks awful yeah awful but but not that bad for us because at least we can say oh we need this rain like this is a good rest day we need this rain we're we're in a drought right now it's real bad but if you live in seattle every day i love you people you guys are beautiful i love your attitude i don't like the chas situation i don't think that's wise but what's your thoughts on chas i just want to tell people seattle get out go Just go.

[1773] There's a reason why it's going crazy.

[1774] It's filled with homeless people.

[1775] Everyone's tired.

[1776] They're depressed.

[1777] You don't get any sunlight.

[1778] It's not good.

[1779] You need sunlight.

[1780] That shit's terrible for you.

[1781] My take in the Chad situation is they're doing exact.

[1782] I was talking about it with Collian Noir the other day.

[1783] They're doing exactly the same thing they get mad at when they think about a country.

[1784] They put up walls.

[1785] They have borders.

[1786] They have police and enforcement.

[1787] They beat the fuck out of people.

[1788] There's been murders inside.

[1789] It's not all kumbaya.

[1790] you know it's like you just made a shittier smaller version of a city of course you did of course you but it's got borders a regular city you can just you can just drive in at albuquerque they let you in jazz is like fuck you we got border walls you can go to san franciscoe just drive in no one can come in here if we have a plastic barrier how crazy is that how did that happen they're larping How did that happen?

[1791] They're larping, for sure.

[1792] That's what it is.

[1793] For sure.

[1794] Yeah, I mean, that's what it is.

[1795] And they took over the city?

[1796] They took over the LARPers.

[1797] Well, they need to learn.

[1798] You know, I mean, there's a thing that happens when a lot of these protesters get equated with progress, right?

[1799] Whether it's Antifa or any, like, you know, real Marxist, left wing, progressive, socialist movement, they have good intentions, right?

[1800] And they get lumped in with the idea of progress.

[1801] So people let them get away with stuff.

[1802] They think, oh, just, they're just, it's progress.

[1803] It's going to work out.

[1804] It's going to work out.

[1805] But they don't have a real plan.

[1806] These folks don't have a long -term plan.

[1807] When Seattle gave them that, just back to, it's probably the most brilliant move ever.

[1808] Like, okay, oh, you think you could do better?

[1809] Why don't you go ahead?

[1810] It's like, you have kids, right?

[1811] When your kids are like, I know how to tie my shoes, like, okay, could tie your shoes.

[1812] And you stand there for a minute.

[1813] You want some help?

[1814] I'll help you because you don't know how to tie your shoes.

[1815] This is how you do it.

[1816] You make the bunny here.

[1817] You go through the loop, but do you have to let a kid, I bet, particularly boys.

[1818] I have all girls, but I would imagine with boys, even more so.

[1819] They get a little stubborn.

[1820] I fucking know what I'm doing, Dad.

[1821] And you got to go, oh, okay, do you?

[1822] Okay, Chas.

[1823] Good luck.

[1824] Good luck.

[1825] Happy six blocks.

[1826] You guys had two murders inside of a fucking week.

[1827] I just don't understand how that happened.

[1828] I don't understand how the city just let it go.

[1829] I think it's like a publicity stunt and they wanted, I think the city or hers is in charge of that.

[1830] There's a lot of them, man. letting them doing that.

[1831] But they're not being overrun with, like, guns and bombs and bullshit.

[1832] This is, like, we're going to let these guys have it, and then we're going to, you know, let this fail.

[1833] Like, I don't even know.

[1834] It just doesn't make any sense to me. It seems like a joke.

[1835] If you talk to people, my friend Rob Wolf reached out to me because some folks from the Seattle Police Department reached out to him, they're trying to get their message out.

[1836] They're trying to figure it out.

[1837] And essentially, they were saying that the media is not telling the true story.

[1838] And that the true story is every time, like, the media will show them tear gassing people.

[1839] But they don't say that they had set up boundaries and they said, you got to stay out of the precinct, got to stay out of this area.

[1840] You guys, you can't just invade.

[1841] And every time they put up these boundaries, they would push through and then they had to use tear gas they fell to defend their position.

[1842] And then they eventually had to give up the whole precinct.

[1843] And then they had to give up like six blocks.

[1844] And they don't feel like there's a lot of support for their position in the news.

[1845] And they also don't feel like they're being given the freedom to defend it, probably.

[1846] properly.

[1847] Like, they really, they couldn't.

[1848] They had to get out of there.

[1849] That's why they took, that's why those people took it.

[1850] That's why it's still locked down today.

[1851] And the mayor has been saying lately, it's time to go home now.

[1852] But the mayor before gave a fucked up answer of it, like saying that peaceful protests has always been great.

[1853] Maybe this is the summer of love.

[1854] Like, oh, okay, good luck, lady.

[1855] Like, these ideas, they get connected with progress, right?

[1856] So those people who really want better, right?

[1857] They're angry that George Floyd got murdered, but we all are.

[1858] Every normal, rational person's angry.

[1859] They all want to fucking see change, but we all do.

[1860] But they decided to see change in six blocks of Seattle that had nothing to do with George Floyd.

[1861] They just took over.

[1862] And they took over these buildings.

[1863] So they basically did what Columbus did.

[1864] They came and took over an area.

[1865] But then they did what Trump did.

[1866] They put up a wall.

[1867] And then they did what those cops did.

[1868] They beat the fuck out of people.

[1869] I mean, they ruined their own idea within a couple of weeks.

[1870] So it really was like Seattle just going, go ahead.

[1871] Oh, you know how to do better?

[1872] Oh, you're going to do better?

[1873] Okay, go ahead.

[1874] Go ahead.

[1875] And now they're like, it's time to go home.

[1876] But there's people in there that are armed.

[1877] It's not that simple.

[1878] You know, I don't know how they think they're going to get these people out of there.

[1879] Because you can't even get homeless people out of San Francisco.

[1880] They basically take it over Portland.

[1881] Portland's filled with tents.

[1882] San Francisco's nuts, man. It's nuts.

[1883] You drive down the seat and some neighborhoods in San Francisco.

[1884] You see like multi -million dollar houses and there's five tents in front of the house.

[1885] they're like what is this what is you can't litter you can't throw beer cans on the ground how come you can leave a tent in a fucking little camp stove and a cardboard box filled with bullshit and everybody's just waiting for somebody else that come clean the tent out in front of your yard everybody's waiting to fix the solution if there was three tents in front of your house it's a good question I don't know what I do I don't want to go to jail I don't want to go to jail so I don't know probably hire somebody to clean it up I don't know what to do I wouldn't know what to do what is the law can my kid not play in the yard because someone Someone threw a fucking heroin needle in the yard and he's got a tent right there and if you're in Venice and you got this little tiny patch of grass where your kid can play and your kid runs into a heroin needle that someone chucked over the fence but we have to be progressive we have to be nice.

[1886] And people equate...

[1887] No, bro, you go knock on the tent.

[1888] Hey man, you can't have your tent here.

[1889] Get the fuck out.

[1890] I'll fucking do that.

[1891] No, no, I actually won't.

[1892] You're gonna get to fuck out.

[1893] You're gonna get to fuck up.

[1894] Nope, got to go.

[1895] I'm a crack baby.

[1896] All right.

[1897] later you gotta go I'm looking at Seattle News they went leaving said they're going to leave today there's like an official capital they'll occupy protest zone says it's concluded as of tonight and they expect some people to not actually leave but they're saying it's over see I think somebody else funded that I think that was a big joke I think that was like a big thing I don't know probably somebody in a deep state or whatever the guys that fund all the other stuff take those crazy right the guys who throw Epstein witnesses out of buildings.

[1898] How does that money go around?

[1899] Who gets it?

[1900] It goes in Bitcoin.

[1901] They buy tacos with it.

[1902] I don't know.

[1903] I think people are funding and I don't know.

[1904] There's so much shit going on.

[1905] I can't just blindly believe any of these narratives anymore.

[1906] It's just beyond to me. It would be crazy if we found out there was some sort of a weird ulterior motive for letting them take over and that this has all been planned out in some sort of a strange way.

[1907] Some people think that some people think that this civil unrest and that even encouraging the spread of corona would, you know, by letting people protest and not doing anything to stop it, is actually some sort of a nefarious attempt to make sure that all the elections are mail -in ballots so they can monkey with them.

[1908] You don't do that.

[1909] It does make sense if I was writing a Tom Clancy novel.

[1910] Yeah.

[1911] Right?

[1912] That makes sense.

[1913] I don't know if it's true, though.

[1914] Dude, I can barely pay attention to shit I do.

[1915] Yeah.

[1916] My left switch kicks.

[1917] Terrible.

[1918] Really?

[1919] Yeah, so much.

[1920] I got you, bro.

[1921] It moves too slow.

[1922] I got you, bro.

[1923] It's too much of a weird, come off balance.

[1924] I'm concentrating on that.

[1925] I can't be concentrating on Chaz.

[1926] I like to step up over the switch.

[1927] We can work on that.

[1928] I'll tell you what.

[1929] I'll show you that.

[1930] Why do you step up over the switch?

[1931] Because if we do the switch kick, you're staring at me. It's scary time.

[1932] I'm staring at you.

[1933] We're about to fucking whatever.

[1934] And then you see me jump and switch my feet.

[1935] Right.

[1936] You know that something's coming.

[1937] You know what's coming.

[1938] But if I just step forward with my right foot, Even if you tried to back up, I can make the adjustment because my foot is stepping.

[1939] Okay.

[1940] That makes sense.

[1941] That makes sense.

[1942] Kevin Ross doesn't even switch.

[1943] But once I jump to switch, I'm stuck in that position.

[1944] Now I have to take an additional step if you back up.

[1945] But if I just walk forward and you move backwards, I can adjust my foot.

[1946] Some guys don't like to switch, right?

[1947] Some guys just blast it right from the front leg.

[1948] Yeah, I do that as well.

[1949] It just depends on the distance.

[1950] If the person's coming to me, then I can do that.

[1951] Right.

[1952] And if they're moving away, if they're moving away, then I walk that step.

[1953] Makes sense.

[1954] What do you think about the low calf kick?

[1955] Who crazy is that?

[1956] It's become so popular.

[1957] It wasn't like a thing, and then all of a sudden it's the thing.

[1958] It's like the best thing.

[1959] It's like a really effective thing.

[1960] My training partner in Bamba, we both of our last bites were on the same card.

[1961] And that was like his thing.

[1962] He was like, oh, I'm going to kick him in the calf.

[1963] I'm going to kick him in the calf.

[1964] I'm going to kick him in the calf.

[1965] And then he kicked me in the calf where we were sparring.

[1966] And I'm like, hey, bro, like, fucking don't do that.

[1967] Like, don't do that.

[1968] Stop doing that, you know?

[1969] My fucking shit.

[1970] It could ruin your shit.

[1971] It's not like a thigh kick where you can, like, catch a medium one and you're okay.

[1972] If somebody really slams into your calf, you're fucked.

[1973] And if you, it happens by just being lazy with your block.

[1974] If you block correctly, it's fine.

[1975] But if, like, especially in, like, a sparring situation, you're just, you're lazy with your block.

[1976] And then it hits that side of that calf, and it's a different bunging.

[1977] It fucks it up for a long time, too.

[1978] The nerve, it's a weird feeling, right?

[1979] Yeah, sucks.

[1980] It's like, ah.

[1981] Well, they saw, like, the Michael Chandler one where his whole foot went numb.

[1982] That was insane.

[1983] Henry Suhudo versus Mighty Mouse, too.

[1984] Same thing.

[1985] The second fight, same thing.

[1986] Yeah, it shuts your foot off.

[1987] It's nuts.

[1988] And there's not much you can do about that.

[1989] He's a beast, huh?

[1990] Dude.

[1991] He's up there, too.

[1992] Undeniable.

[1993] He's up there.

[1994] I mean, you want to talk about some of the greats.

[1995] The guy's Olympic gold medals in wrestling.

[1996] And then two division, UFC world champion.

[1997] And then smashed Dominic Cruz.

[1998] smashed T .J. Dillishaw.

[1999] Smashed Marlon Marys.

[2000] And it juiced up T .J. Zillazel itself.

[2001] EPioed.

[2002] But starving to death.

[2003] Really, the EPO was just keeping him alive.

[2004] Bro.

[2005] He looked worse on weighing day than anyone I've ever seen ever.

[2006] Next to Travis Luter.

[2007] But Travis Luter was just trying to dehydrate too much in one day.

[2008] T .J. had eaten himself down to nothing.

[2009] And then dehydrated.

[2010] And then dehydrated himself.

[2011] He had eaten himself down to nothing.

[2012] Like, he let his body eat itself.

[2013] His cheeks were completely sunken in.

[2014] He looked like he was Like he was found in the woods And that was a 35, right?

[2015] 25, 25.

[2016] Yeah, so he was the 35 pound champion Went down to 25.

[2017] He said he took EPO just to be able to train.

[2018] He was like, he couldn't do anything.

[2019] But the, you know, it's hard to tell.

[2020] The alpha male guys are like, fuck you, you did.

[2021] Like Cody Garbrandt in a press conference were saying, bro, you were always taking that shit.

[2022] So he didn't say it It's like it's one of those things It's like when you get caught with something like that Your whole legacy gets It gets thrown up in the air People like Yeah I mean I'm wondering if they could retroactive He test some of the samples If they kept the samples as long I don't know I don't know how long they keep them That's how they got Lance right Was it?

[2023] The Lance number popped while he was competing It was after the fact right Something like that?

[2024] I don't know if they ever got him I think he had to confess Really?

[2025] I don't believe they ever caught Lance I thought they took old samples and then did it but maybe they didn't you might be right I don't know you could be wrong you might be right I felt like at the time when he quit though that wasn't the case I felt the time it was like he was the walls were closing in on him and he had ex -teamates testifying everybody was going on him yeah crazy but again it's just when your whole sport's dirty like what are they doing now are they just remarkably slower like what are they doing you got a juiced up sport if you keep the same times i'm going to be super suspicious yeah what happened in that very next the very next especially if the next guy behind lance that didn't juice was 27 or something did the numbers just tack on an hour to every race i know i thought it was 18 but you might be right but it's something crazy like that it's definitely top 10 or gone oh for sure top 15 what's we'll agree it's over top 15 yeah well That's the old days of the UFC, too.

[2026] Mm -hmm.

[2027] I mean, you want to go back the old days of pride, for sure.

[2028] Ensign Inouye told me they told him on the contract.

[2029] You will not be tested for steroids.

[2030] He said it was all in my...

[2031] I think Eve told me that, too.

[2032] Same thing.

[2033] It was on big bold letters.

[2034] Like, it will not be tested.

[2035] Big bold letters.

[2036] They're like, have at it, boys.

[2037] And I think so could you...

[2038] I want to say it was so could you.

[2039] I could be wrong.

[2040] One of those guys told me that after they got tested and pride, they would walk out.

[2041] If they got tested, that there would be just cups of piss all down the hallway after the fight like they didn't do anything with it like the guys peed in the cup and then they sat it on the floor and down the hallway was just cups of pee all the way down yeah pee in this cup please it's required okay thanks yeah we got for nothing yeah we tested for drugs man that turns out tested their piss it just it just burn the results clean as a whistle when you go and watch those some of those fights where guys were just like so juiced up they let bob sap fight at 375 pounds with abs with abs with abs bro that And he's like an emotional wreck.

[2042] She starts crying.

[2043] Oh, my God.

[2044] Well, when you're on that kind of juice, I would imagine your whole perspective and reality just gets like thrown into a blender.

[2045] What kind of doses are those?

[2046] There's just buckets of testosterone and every week.

[2047] I wonder if he would be clean.

[2048] It would tell you, you know, like what were you doing during the Minotaro fight?

[2049] Tell me about those days.

[2050] Tell me about what was going on.

[2051] Crocop and his legs were just fucking enormous.

[2052] Meanwhile, Crocop smashed him Even when he was like fully on the shit Crocop dropped him straight left All those guys were on the shit Yeah, you know?

[2053] All those guys, for sure Yeah Well, that was the thing People got real mad at me when I questioned Fadour And I'm like, well, listen It's not like Russia Hasn't been known to do shit like that before When it's in your contract That you're not testing And you're the goat heavyweight You're the goat?

[2054] Did he come to the US?

[2055] Maybe not so much the goat anymore Yeah, not Not so much the goat anymore once they were testing, right?

[2056] Van der Le, same thing.

[2057] But also years on the clock.

[2058] There's a lot of factors.

[2059] For sure, of course.

[2060] You know, when, like, when he was fighting, like, Crow Cop, the early days of, like, Fadoor versus Crow Cop, it's hard to argue that he wasn't a goat.

[2061] He's one of those guys, like, in the heavyweight division, there was a few years.

[2062] When Randaman picked him up and slammed him and then he camoored him right afterwards.

[2063] Insane.

[2064] Yeah.

[2065] There was some fights, man, when you go.

[2066] like, that guy's the best.

[2067] He's the fucking best.

[2068] He used to be a terrifying dude, too.

[2069] Remember we jumping up and down across the cage?

[2070] Can you imagine?

[2071] Like, what the fuck?

[2072] This dude's a gorilla.

[2073] He had so much athleticism.

[2074] He was so fast and so powerful.

[2075] He knocked out Crow Cop.

[2076] Remember that?

[2077] Left hook.

[2078] Steped in, faked like a takedown, cracked him with the left hook.

[2079] Boom!

[2080] And then finished him off on the ground with nasty hammer fist.

[2081] It was horrible.

[2082] I mean, that's like the kickboxer transitioning to M .A's biggest problem, right?

[2083] Fink to take down, hands down.

[2084] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[2085] There's been a lot of those.

[2086] Yep, there's been quite a few of those.

[2087] And Randomen was like, he was so perfect for that role because he was the wrestler who was a stud wrestler, but also had crazy speed and power with his punches, crazy closing the distance power, you know?

[2088] Like Woodley.

[2089] Mm -hmm, exactly.

[2090] You go like the Woodley J. Huron fight, like those, or Carlos Condi.

[2091] Or the Woodley and Robbie Lawler fight.

[2092] Oh, yeah, perfect example.

[2093] His ability to close distance and hit the target is.

[2094] second or none oh my god yeah he he would throw bombs man what a fucking career that guy had has had but how good is gilbert burns look man that was crazy i'm a big fan of gilbert burns he's a stud everybody before the fight i was like man i really like woodley but i think i think gilbert burns and everybody's like no woodley for sure willie for sure if you see the gilbert burns that knocked out damien maya and you realize like man this guy is no joke on the ground Brazilian Jiu -Jitsu world champion and he's got that sneaky left hook and also like this is a giant opportunity for him.

[2095] Woodley's an all -time great if Woodley retires right now he goes down the books one of the all -time great UFC champions definitely top three welterweights of all time or top four plus there's a big difference in a former champion and an up -and -coming guy that's starting to see the light that there is a fucking title right there I can get to this you know like I've been in those positions and there that dude's a dangerous Dangerous dude when they haven't gotten there yet versus a guy that's still trying to keep it You know yes, yes, and then that's burns that team Sanford M .M .A. with a Henry Hoof.

[2096] Woo!

[2097] They're killing it.

[2098] So he got a jiu -jitsu monster phenom and he's working with high -level strikers every day.

[2099] What's crazy is like on a kill street.

[2100] Oh, man, he's such on a kill street, but it's crazy He's like, he really didn't strike until like just a few years ago.

[2101] I mean, I don't know how many years he's been fighting now, but before that, like, just had to learn how striking.

[2102] He was a jiu -jitsu guy.

[2103] He doesn't have, like, a background in kickboxing.

[2104] But when you watch him fight, he's all about striking.

[2105] Really good.

[2106] Really good.

[2107] Really good.

[2108] Dude, did him drop Woodley like that in the first round and swarm him?

[2109] Like, fuck, man. And his pace keeps up that pace for five fucking rounds, hard.

[2110] Well, then between UFC fights, he's doing grappling, like, still competing at high -level grappling tournaments and stuff.

[2111] That's a dangerous move, man. That's a dangerous move.

[2112] When Cubs Swanson blew his knee out That quintet I was like oh no And against Jake Shields I'm like hey dude Jake Shields is huge He's a lot bigger than you man Yeah And he got Did you see it?

[2113] I didn't see it It was in a leglock position I think he was like reaping And uh Oh that's terrible They were stuck in this bad position And Cubs knee exploded Yeah It's just a bad grappling matchup I mean I know Cubs A Blackout in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu but Jake is big.

[2114] He's a big guy, and he's fucking strong, and he has a long career as a competitive jujitsu player.

[2115] If you're a cub and you're, like, just doing real good, like, you've had some wicked fights, and you've got a lot of momentum, and then you blow your fucking knee out in this grappling competition.

[2116] You're like, shit.

[2117] And he's, like, 35, I think, in that range.

[2118] Like, that's a bad time to get injured like that.

[2119] And if you look at it, like, I'm a fighter, and I'm doing this grappling tournament as, like, a thing.

[2120] A fun thing.

[2121] It's a fun thing.

[2122] Then you have to go in there, like, if I have caught in a position or this is not going well, I have to know that I'm a fighter, not a, you know.

[2123] Yes, you've got to be willing to tap court.

[2124] Or at the end of the day, you're just sitting there like, what a fuck.

[2125] Yeah.

[2126] Fuck, why'd I do that?

[2127] Yeah.

[2128] There was a lot of jujitsu guys in that thing.

[2129] There's something about those leg locks, too.

[2130] It's like a scary way to get hurt because you're like, yikes, that's going to be a bad one.

[2131] You know, when you see someone get heel hooked and then not tapping quickly.

[2132] quick enough and you see that look in their face like ah you're like oh you ain't recovering from that one for a long -ass time everybody's like training he training leg locks now right and that's like a new newer thing right like yeah i've been training about eddie a bunch lately and it's like getting used to just the 10 planet style of jiu -jitsu is so different and then like the the lockdown every five seconds on my leg i gotta deal with that and then everybody's constantly going for leg locks all the time i've just never i've trained a lot of teams on a lot of ways over the years with jujitsu and it's just it's a real issue it's a real issue it's a real issue because there's not like a lot of room for defense in certain spots right heel hook spots like e like inside heel hooks bro you got very little time to make a decision there are you gonna roll out of this or you just gonna tap now and preserve your shit because you might get ripped apart and then eddie's warm ups we have to like you know i'm sure you know like the a's and the b season there's like i think it was c that we were doing doing maybe it was b but it was like knee knee bar ankle lock knee bar like uh foot foot these things and that's just the warm up of the thing these guys are constantly working on those specific you know style of uh jihitsu around the leg locks yeah it's a crazy time you know and if you look at the professional jiu jitsu scene if you look at the top of the food chain like the gordon ryan's and uh Craig jones and the guys that nature they're all known for having nasty leg locks.

[2133] John Dona Hurts.

[2134] Well, Craig is an Australian guy, but, yeah, Gordon Ryan, Gary Tonin, who's now a one -fc guy.

[2135] Oh, he made his debut?

[2136] Yeah, he's fought several times.

[2137] Oh, nice.

[2138] He's fought several times.

[2139] He's undefeated in M .M .A. Awesome.

[2140] Yeah.

[2141] He's doing really good.

[2142] It is a big deal.

[2143] Because, you know, whenever a guy like you, who's a world champion in kickboxing or a guy like him as a world champion in grappling makes its way into MMA, like the advantage of your specialty is significant right like when you're standing up with someone your advantage for most guys against you is pretty significant you know if you were just having a kickboxing fight it would be very significant right so that's the same thing with grappling with a guy like toning man he gets a hold of your shit you got real problems man he's sneaky quick did you ever see that video where it was i think it was in abdabi where he hit this dude with a scissors sweep right into a heel hook and like tapped him in 15 seconds oh yeah it was like immediate right just i did see that He threw his body weight sideways and fell right into the heel hook and was immediately cranking on it.

[2144] And I feel like he has a couple of those, right?

[2145] This is his forte.

[2146] Well, he's so good defensively.

[2147] This is not it, but this is similar.

[2148] He did it on this guy, too.

[2149] That's in just a grappling competition.

[2150] I think he's done in MMA as well.

[2151] But he's so good defensively that he's not really worried about you catching him when you go to the grapillar.

[2152] so he'll do wild shit to get to the ground like dive into a flying scissor you know because he's like look once we go to the ground my level is so high in comparison to most guys I can just get away with getting to the ground in weird spots you know the confidence even if I get yeah even if I get in a weird spot I'm gonna still end up in a better position yeah his this is right right here look at this boom I mean come on man this dude tries to roll he's like the tap tap I mean that is nasty man he falls right into it Right into it.

[2153] Yeah.

[2154] That feeling of feeling your shit separate inside your knee, and you're like, oh, God, damn it.

[2155] And it's so quick.

[2156] It's so quick.

[2157] Like you, do I even bother trying to figure out what does you know?

[2158] Get the fuck off.

[2159] Yeah.

[2160] Get off, me, bitch.

[2161] Stop, stop, stop.

[2162] And some guys would just let them rip their knee apart.

[2163] There was a Gary Tonin, AJ, how do he say his last name?

[2164] Agassan.

[2165] Agassan.

[2166] Agassam.

[2167] Agassam, who's also very talented.

[2168] And Gary Tonin had him in the craziest knee bar.

[2169] where his knee was just fucked, just bent completely out of place.

[2170] And he didn't tap.

[2171] He just let him fuck his knee up.

[2172] It's nasty to watch too.

[2173] And then he's out for over a year or something?

[2174] I don't think he was out for that long.

[2175] Believe it or not.

[2176] I think he just dealt with the fact that his shit was ripped up.

[2177] And he had a shout -outs to him.

[2178] He had a wild...

[2179] Bellator fire.

[2180] Bellator.

[2181] His first one was like fucking everybody was ragging on him.

[2182] He had me a bunch of stupid faces.

[2183] didn't work out well but like his last fight they gave him like a tough guy that was like part of that tournament and man he really he really brought it it was good he really brought it it was an awesome fight really good he's super talented on the ground really good and again in comparison like he can hang in there with guys like tonin in comparison to the average MMA fighter he's gonna have a significant advantage for sure see if you can fight find that Gary Tonin taps out his name is his name is tough to say there it is so look look how bad his knee is dude look at that that is so bad that is so bad look how far back that's going and agon arm just handles it just deals with he's like I don't go fuck go ahead break my shit like he's literally letting him fuck his knee up look how bad but let me see that one more time look how bad that thing is bent look at that bro that's bad that's really but look how far it is past straight oh ouchy and look how red Gary's faces holy shit Gary's trying to murder everyone he's ever met huh yeah yeah exactly exactly it's it's bending the wrong way yeah yeah foot is coming towards I almost couldn't tell I know because it seems like it should be he should be facing the other direction and it's bending backwards posting off of his own shit trying to get more off of that like how red his face is he's gone for that yeah that is he's his knee is getting ripped apart there and his head is going this way his foot is going that way not good super duper not good and he's like fine fucking fine lifts his hands up fine some people are just tough man they can handle getting their leg ripped apart i've seen it john jones did it against vitor vitor ruined his arm ruined his arm vitor got him in a full -on arm bar fully hyper extended and john's like fuck you i'm not tapping Like, you can do whatever you want with that thing.

[2184] I got this one over here.

[2185] Remember Tim Sliagin and his arm snapped in half?

[2186] Yes, Frank Meir.

[2187] Frank Meir.

[2188] And then the only person that saved his entire fucking career was Herb Dean.

[2189] Right.

[2190] Herb Dean was like, hey, hey, hey, your arm's broken.

[2191] He's like, come on, bro.

[2192] Yeah, he's like, let me fight.

[2193] And, you know.

[2194] You were commentated that one.

[2195] Yeah?

[2196] And you were like, something's going on here.

[2197] And they're like, they watched the video.

[2198] And you're like, oh.

[2199] Well, the audience was booing.

[2200] And so I said, you've got to show these people the video.

[2201] Right.

[2202] We got to see this video.

[2203] And, you know, the audience was booing And then they put it up on the big screen And then when they put it up on the big screen The moment you see it snap, people went Oh!

[2204] You hear it through the whole crowd like, oh!

[2205] It was the worst broken arm I've ever seen Up to that point.

[2206] Someone else had a nasty one in the USC I can't think of it.

[2207] It was like a spiral fracture.

[2208] Minutaro versus Frank Meir.

[2209] Frank Meir got him into Camaro.

[2210] Minotaro didn't tap and he just, you heard it too.

[2211] You heard it.

[2212] Pact arena.

[2213] you hear and you see him sitting there looking at it like ah yeah look at him look at him looking at it like fuck have you ever hit somebody with that and torn their shit no I did when I was a long time ago but I was I had somebody in a Camara and they were like an upper belt and just didn't think that they were stuck I thought it was whatever and I don't even know if it was like about me he was just not going with the Camara sweep I might even been sweep and he like just refused the sweep and his joint ripped and it sounded like if you took like a terry cloth towel and just pulled it apart it's like just oh it was terrible and that gave me like nightmares for like weeks it's always in my head because it's right over you right it's like right in your ear oh it's terrible feel the tendons ripping apart terrible if i can make that sound yeah something like that right yeah that's the rough thing about jujitsu man And if you break something, you're like, well, now I'm out for six months.

[2214] If I'm lucky.

[2215] Yeah.

[2216] And the ego gets involved, right?

[2217] Yeah, that's the problem.

[2218] There's a lot of ego in jujitsu.

[2219] Oh, for sure, man. You don't want to let it go.

[2220] I always try to go into, like, especially when I guess I'm, I go to a lot of different Jiu -Jitsu gyms.

[2221] I'm not like a long -term guy, right?

[2222] So it's like, oh, that's Joe Schilling.

[2223] And I go in with no ego, and there's always a guy that's going to go, like, extra super hard.

[2224] This is his big moment, you know?

[2225] Yeah, that is a problem.

[2226] These motherfuckers in their big moments.

[2227] And I'm like, bro, I know it's your big day, but it's just like my Tuesday afternoon.

[2228] But that is the problem with a professional fighter always training with civilians.

[2229] You never know.

[2230] You're not vetting these people.

[2231] They're like, there might be bad cops.

[2232] Bad cops are allowed to train jiu -jitzy too.

[2233] If you're in a fucking place and there's a guy who has that bad cop mentality and he happens to be a brown belt.

[2234] Bro, I'm so scared to get pulled over.

[2235] No. Listen, let's just give the cops some love.

[2236] You want good cops.

[2237] We want good cops.

[2238] Cops are important.

[2239] And I know there's a lot of them.

[2240] I think there's more good cops and bad.

[2241] I really believe that.

[2242] I think it's just an insanely hard job.

[2243] And I think they're held to a standard that they should be held to because it's a life or death situation.

[2244] But it's a standard where your entire job is you're dealing with conflict.

[2245] Conflict is very rare for people.

[2246] Right?

[2247] For regular people, not like you, you fight.

[2248] You know, you're pretty good at conflict.

[2249] Right.

[2250] But for regular folks, they don't come into physical conflict on a regular basis.

[2251] It's very rare.

[2252] For a cop, it's every day.

[2253] That's, you're overloading your system.

[2254] 100%.

[2255] So if you have this guy who's already a little wacky, and then you put him into a everyday conflict situation, and then he's got seven years on a job.

[2256] Who knows how nuts that guy is by the time he does something stupid?

[2257] Which is why we just need to start the process with, are you okay?

[2258] with conflict you know and let's go down the list you can't even ask them you can't ask them you got to make them carry the boat i think they should all go through buds training i really do have any any kind of thing yeah find out if they're exceptional find out if there's something there's something about them that separates them from a regular person well if not well guess what having a gun and a fucking badge and the ability to pull somebody over and tell them what to do and shoot people that takes you out of the realm of a normal person if you want to be a non -normal person You have to show the qualifications of a non -normal person.

[2259] And I think most of them can do it.

[2260] They could do it.

[2261] And if they listen to Jocko, they let Jocko willing take over the training and just make sure everybody does 20 % training, we can radically reduce a lot of the interactions of people that are negative.

[2262] Radically.

[2263] And then we can overshadow it with good stories of cops doing good things and change the perspective.

[2264] Yes.

[2265] But right now, everybody needs to see there's a problem so they can be fixed.

[2266] Yes.

[2267] Right?

[2268] They do need to see that.

[2269] And that's why even the people that are mad and they don't like you now and they're pissed off of you, I hope they understand your perspective.

[2270] And that's why I wanted to, first of all, I love you.

[2271] So I wanted to have you on because I was, love seeing you.

[2272] But I wanted to have you on because I know that this means something to you.

[2273] This is not just like some celeb cause.

[2274] Like we're talking about that goofy video that those people made.

[2275] You know, like I'm going to be held accountable.

[2276] I'm going to part of the problem.

[2277] No, you're doing that not for the likes.

[2278] You're losing people, man. I know people are falling off here and they're mad at you, but you're doing it because you mean it means something to you and you actually care and you want people to know.

[2279] Like this is a fucking real problem.

[2280] And it's a problem with black people for sure.

[2281] It's also a problem with just people.

[2282] It's, you know, this better not get lost in this conversation, this message.

[2283] For sure, I'm down with police reform everywhere, for sure, for sure.

[2284] whether it's Black Lives Matter or, you know, whatever, whatever's happening.

[2285] We need some police reform.

[2286] We need them to be held accountable.

[2287] They need to be held accountable for women, for old men, for everybody.

[2288] They just, you can't, you just can't just do that.

[2289] You can't just behave that way.

[2290] They need to be held accountable.

[2291] I think so one of us are based at, just like the coronavirus, probably you could say the same thing.

[2292] Because I haven't encountered it, I don't think it's real.

[2293] Just like people haven't encountered an asshole cop, which I find hard to believe, or racism that it's not real you know what I mean and uh well white people that discount racism are the most hilarious it's ridiculous well that's easy to say it's ridiculous yeah it's um the idea that it doesn't exist is pretty silly and the idea that all cops are good is also pretty silly all people are not good it's too hard it's too hard to be a person it's hard and people need checks and balances every level of every job anybody has to have some accountability has to have everything some checks and balances we can't have a government that nobody gets in checks and balances exactly you know what i mean every news channel all the time back checks and talk shit about every tweet that the president makes or anybody we're constantly doing that why do we just blindly just believe that the police don't ever make mistakes exactly and if we want to all admit that they have a bad a hard job or whatever that's just as much more reason that we should all be checking in on them and making sure that they're not going fucking ape shit.

[2294] Well said.

[2295] Thank you.

[2296] You're not a bad guy, Joe Schilling.

[2297] You just want people to be held accountable.

[2298] I just want to be held accountable.

[2299] Because you're a bad motherfucker and you want bad motherfuckers to be cops.

[2300] That's right.

[2301] There you go.

[2302] Not bitch -ass dudes.

[2303] That's what it is.

[2304] Straight up.

[2305] Yeah.

[2306] It's really clear.

[2307] That's like, that's a respectful position.

[2308] I was talking to my buddy about it.

[2309] Can you imagine being scared?

[2310] You have to go pull this person over.

[2311] And we think that that guy, cops probably a pussy.

[2312] That's why he did it.

[2313] But if he knows he's a pussy, he knows he's a pussy walking to the car.

[2314] Oh, fuck, uh, if he, exactly.

[2315] And that's what we got.

[2316] That's what we're dealing with.

[2317] These are the guys we're giving the guns to.

[2318] Not all of them, but some of them.

[2319] 100%.

[2320] That's so important.

[2321] It's like one of the things you would tell people, if you were talking to a kid and he was like, do you think, do you think I should do martial arts for self -defense?

[2322] 100%.

[2323] No, you're a pussy.

[2324] It's not cut out for it.

[2325] Like straight up.

[2326] I don't mean those people.

[2327] No, but there are those people.

[2328] It's the same honesty.

[2329] A lot of those guys, They'll get into Jiu -Jitsu, and they went up strangling folks.

[2330] Yeah, well, good.

[2331] Jiu -Jitsu's different, man, because you don't have to get punched.

[2332] Guys can get really good.

[2333] There's something about, like, you would admit to this, right?

[2334] There's people that get good at jiu -suitzs that would never get good at striking.

[2335] Yes, yes, yes.

[2336] Because the process, yes, because you actually practice jujitsu without getting hit in the face, whereas you're not going to practice it.

[2337] You're not going to actually get good.

[2338] at striking unless you're getting struck which is very difficult you got to go into the danger zone son right you can stay out of the danger zone with jiu -jitsu you can do live drills you can do a lot of things but there's sparring is sparring you know and the first time some guy fucking punches you in the face and you see stars and your nose starts running and your eyes are watering you're like oh my god because i can make you look great on the pads i could teach you the fitness you could have the body you could a shadow box you could do all of that when that shit happens when that shit happens it's real and in jiu -jitsu you get to go again and jiu -jitsu guy catches you we all get caught the guy gets you in an arm bar okay tap and you can go right again if someone flatlines you you're fucked for the day you're not this is not a normal uh thing for your body to experience and you can't necessarily point that out at least not when they walk into the gym nope right you train them for a whole fight that's what i tell my fighters all the time is your first like 10 fights i have no idea i have hoping what you're going to do but i don't know right because we'll be in there the smoker yeah smoker fire warm up good ate good cut weight good you're good everything you're saying's great and then you get out there in front of the lights and it's just not for you it's not your time it's not or you could be a justin gauchy who who can somehow or another ignore those lights there's dudes that just ignore those lights they don't mean shit that guy comes out just looks at it like this just dead faced he's not freaking out Daniel Rodriguez, same thing.

[2339] Same thing.

[2340] Same thing.

[2341] Like ice cold.

[2342] Yeah, he looks like a guy would be ice cold.

[2343] Ice cold.

[2344] Those guys excel.

[2345] Those guys excel because how much of a factor is it is dealing with the anxiety?

[2346] The first time I cornered him for a fight, he let it go, we warm up, and everyone up.

[2347] And everybody, every fighter is a little different.

[2348] Some guys like long warm -ups.

[2349] Some guys are panicking death.

[2350] Like, we just keep an eye and see what's going on.

[2351] So it was first time, I don't know sure what he's going to do.

[2352] We warming him up.

[2353] And it's like, all right, you got like 10 minutes for the next fight and he's like like you need anything else like no I'm cool chilling he sits down he gets on his phone and he like he's like just looking at the phone swoop it's swiping through and shit and I'm like commission comes like okay you're next up and he's like all right cool and he's just thumbing through his pump like nothing's happening and I'm like how long did he warm up oh we did probably like 15 20 minutes oh okay you know and we got we got a good spike going got the first little bit out but he was just chilling and I'm like noticing what's going on and I don't want to like make a scene but I like went in his ear and I was like hey man this shit you're doing right now it's like it's cool as fuck and all that but like just make sure you turn the switch when it's time to go and he like looked at me like yeah I got it and sure enough he did it right like just smokes the guy and the guy had way more experience than him this is a small local show then after the fight we go to the bar he's got all of us friends and family there and shit and uh he's got having a few drinks and like he puts his arm around me he was like hey man you know you were saying like make sure I turned the switch I was like, yeah, he's like, man, I've been to jail, like a lot, like a lot, and I fought a lot of people.

[2354] He's like, I don't get nervous when I fight one person.

[2355] And I was like, pf -ch -ching, ching, ching, ching, ching, ching, ching, ching, chint, we got a winner here, folks.

[2356] And then I was like, okay, we'll see about this.

[2357] But his UFC debut, I'm going to forget the guy, he fucking fought.

[2358] He fought a really good guy from New Mexico, South Paul.

[2359] You don't remember it.

[2360] Man, I can't believe.

[2361] I'm not remember.

[2362] Pull it up.

[2363] Young Jamie.

[2364] Man, the guy, there's a lot of respect.

[2365] He's a really tough dude.

[2366] He's almost like a gatekeeper, so to speak.

[2367] And D .R. I took it on like two weeks notice and went in there.

[2368] And same thing.

[2369] He's like, warms up, real laid back.

[2370] He's like, damn near sleeping in the locker room.

[2371] They're like, you're up next.

[2372] He's like, all right, cool, whatever.

[2373] And he's, like, totally ice cold.

[2374] Then we walk out for the fight.

[2375] And, you know, after the, they check your nails and mouthpiece and all that, you have, like, a moment.

[2376] Everybody always hugs, which I think is weird, like, you're going off the battle or something.

[2377] But, like, he turns around.

[2378] And I was like, hey, man, it's a big show.

[2379] Just take it all in.

[2380] You got this, whatever.

[2381] I was like, what's the game plan?

[2382] He's like, fuck this dude up.

[2383] Yeah.

[2384] That's what you want to see?

[2385] Yeah.

[2386] I was like, but how are we going to do that?

[2387] He's like, kind of like, so I'm going to move my feet.

[2388] I'm going to pick the angles, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[2389] But, like, he was just ice cold.

[2390] And then he stops the dude.

[2391] Like, he was a phenomenal performance.

[2392] I'm like, that guy is a rare breed when it comes to staying calm under pressure.

[2393] It's almost like prison is cross -fitting, cross -training.

[2394] Yeah, Tim.

[2395] Who's he got out here?

[2396] Tim Means.

[2397] Oh, Tim Means is very good, man. Yeah, very, very good.

[2398] And he kind of a standing guillotine.

[2399] Standing guillotine after he dropped him.

[2400] That's a big deal.

[2401] Tim Means is very good.

[2402] And he's very sneaky.

[2403] On your debut, short notice.

[2404] Debut, short notice, and you're dealing with a guy who's an insane amount of competition under his belt.

[2405] I mean, Tim Means is a fucking real world -class fighter.

[2406] D -Raw's the truth.

[2407] Yeah, there's guys like that out there.

[2408] But it almost is like cross -training.

[2409] Like prison is like mental cross -training, you know?

[2410] And you think of like dealing with...

[2411] adversity, confrontation, believing in yourself.

[2412] like showing up like I'm not a bitch and you know what I mean like that's like if you get a guy and he comes to jiu -jitsu and he comes from gymnastics you're like oh shit like you never done jiu -jitsu like dude you're gonna get good quick you're a gymnast if you get some guy who does the rings you know imagine how good he's going to be at jiu -jitsu he's paw my horse dude yes yeah one of those motherfuckers how good is that going to be he's pushing off hips and shit and that's kind of the same way you would think about a guy who's been in a lot of street fights and prison fights, like the anxiety aspect of fighting, as long as you have the athletic aspect as well, but having that anxiety alleviation of being, knowing how to keep your shit together.

[2413] It's like when someone else is having like an anxiety attack or aspect that deal with and someone else feels right at home, not even not not not even the opposite of that like feels good like he's happy, ooh, that's it.

[2414] Yeah, seize it when they're on, yeah, it's fucking terrifying.

[2415] Bad place to be.

[2416] Joe Schilling, we did three hours already.

[2417] Man, time flies.

[2418] Time flies.

[2419] Don't feel in any way like you said anything negative.

[2420] You are 100 % right.

[2421] Everything you said, all that shit you put on your Instagram, it doesn't mean you're a bad person or you're anti -cop.

[2422] You just don't want to see the disgusting shit that you keep posting over and over again.

[2423] Yeah, man, I just want everybody that are my people, which is all people, that are in the United States to like land of the free home of the brave like all the shit that we grew up on thinking this punch we're supposed to be like let's stick to that let's let's hold each other accountable to that you know yeah and don't defund the police please but they don't need tanks either they probably don't need tanks goodbye everybody thank you good night damn that was good