JRE MMA Show #39 with Donald "Cowboy" Cerrone

[0] yes sir cheers cheers and we're live and we're live there's so much to talk about so much to talk about years it's been a while it's been a while and uh one of the reasons why you're here is because i was supposed to have jackson we i mean we should just get right into this you think we should do it or should we yeah let them at the budwiser let the buddwiser sit away i haven't even eat breakfast i specifically didn't eat breakfast i'm like i'm a drink beer which i already know he's getting me beer and that way it can hit me a lot faster and I'll loosen up my lips a lot sooner.

[1] We could do whatever you want.

[2] It's up to you.

[3] You're looking thick, dude.

[4] How much do you weigh now?

[5] Man, so I've been, um, so here's a crazy story.

[6] I go to, I go to, um, the PI to, because Dana tells me I can't go to 55.

[7] So I go to talk to the people.

[8] He told you you can't go.

[9] Why?

[10] Well, because he says, I'm getting old and older.

[11] I just say, he said old.

[12] I'm getting old.

[13] And he's worried, way cut, right?

[14] So I said, all right, I'm going to go to the.

[15] the to the PI you guys have this amazing facility with the PI stands for a performance institute for people don't know you personally there you go UFC Performance Institute and they have trainers and dietitian nutrition right so I'm going there to meet with them to get a guideline and some kind of plan that we can attack so I can go down like look I met with your guys they said it's okay while on there second day into all this like crazy testing you do right they have all kinds of tests that they run where you get on these bikes and I mean, like, fuck, I was like an Olympic training center testing.

[16] I wanted to say Joe Silva walked in, but then that's not right because he's not there anymore.

[17] So, uh, Maineer and no, um, Sean Shelby comes in and says, Cowboy, uh, Mike Perry really wants to fight you.

[18] You want to take this fight?

[19] And I was at, uh, I thought I was going to 55.

[20] And he said, yeah, he called you out and really wants to fight you.

[21] And I was like, well, fuck, okay.

[22] I'll find him.

[23] Sure.

[24] Done.

[25] That's fine.

[26] But next one, can I go to 55?

[27] You know, like, God damn.

[28] So how this Perry thing all started was Felder's opponent got hurt.

[29] I called to fight Gaichi because Vic got hurt.

[30] So I was like, I'll go to 55 fight Gaichi.

[31] Crazy shit just happened.

[32] And then the Perry fight, they offered me. And I called Perry.

[33] Say, hey, man, I know we're trained together, but this is 10 days notice.

[34] Let's do this.

[35] He's like, fuck him.

[36] It'd be great.

[37] Let's do this.

[38] So that's how that started.

[39] And then I didn't get the fight.

[40] That was the end of it.

[41] For me, I went to the USC to go back to 155.

[42] Then all of a sudden, he's calling me out.

[43] So, Felder winds up fighting Perry.

[44] You were going to fight Perry, or you were at least thinking about it.

[45] Yeah, I was like in the mix, right?

[46] But I couldn't, I didn't get cleared because I had stitches because I just fought, what, I don't know, 10 days before.

[47] So plus I was in the hospital having my new son.

[48] So it was kind of a weird time for everything.

[49] But it was wild.

[50] Wild, wild shit.

[51] And now, now I'm fighting Perry November 10th in Denver.

[52] Well, what was going to happen was Jackson and Winklejohn were supposed to be here today.

[53] Right.

[54] Well, you had, I mean, you've been with them for how long?

[55] Man, I want to say before my WC days.

[56] So I went on more than 10 years.

[57] Yeah, easily.

[58] Yeah.

[59] Easily more than 10 years.

[60] I don't think there's another athlete.

[61] there that's been the longer besides Diego Sanchez who's been there since the beginning but Diego left for a little while left for a little while came back so me you know Holly but she was with Wink before he they merged so like with actually Jackson Jackson and I'm like there I'm like the one I'm like it you know everyone else kind of either left the gym or he's retired so what the fuck happened like how did they decide that they were going to corner Mike Perry who by the way I like a lot And I have nothing against to say Perry either.

[62] I don't, this, this, this has nothing to do with Perry.

[63] He's a fun dude.

[64] I like that guy a lot.

[65] So I had no problem with him.

[66] Man, I took him on the boat, took him shooting with me. And when he was down there, part of the action, you know, Frank Lester, who's helping him with his pads, a friend of mine, you know, so he comes out and shooting with me. We go out on the boat and have fun.

[67] And, um, so this has nothing to do with them.

[68] I just asked when I went to go to 55 and then Perry called me out and wants to fight.

[69] Sure, no problem.

[70] But I went to talk to Greg and wink.

[71] and say, hey, this guy's brand new to the gym, right?

[72] He's only been here at one camp, a couple of months.

[73] I said, I don't think that it's okay for him to come in and call me out.

[74] Like, that's not right.

[75] So if he is doing that, I don't think we should allow him to train here for this fight.

[76] Fucking Winklejohn tells me, yeah, you know, I thought you called him out and, he's just a shit ass and lies like to your face.

[77] So to me, he was like, yes, sure, no problem.

[78] I'll clear it up.

[79] And we won't have any issues.

[80] and then the next day he calls me on the phone and says you know what I thought about it if we don't have Perry then I don't get paid and I need to get paid for this fight and uh because you just pay Greg I don't make any money to the gym so we're just going to go with him and then basically tells me I'm no longer welcome in the gym and he is he said the team had a meeting bullshit the team didn't have a meeting I talked to everybody I mean there was no meeting there's no so to me it's like the loyalty of wink taking over this gym is just It's just shit, man, turned into like a puppy mill.

[81] It's all about money now and not the old Jackson.

[82] When I used to work out, we're just getting into this, I guess, huh?

[83] All right.

[84] Start chugging.

[85] Start chugging.

[86] Shit.

[87] Back when I first moved down here and I went to Greg's, when the tapout guys pick me up and introduced me and all that, right?

[88] Back when you're on the tapout show.

[89] Oh, yeah.

[90] That reality show.

[91] Well, Mass called Greg and got me. That's how I got involved with them, right?

[92] I, I left, Leonard Garcia was fighting Roger Ward to one of my best friends.

[93] Roger what I call it that was, by the way.

[94] God, damn, right?

[95] Motherfucking Mexican's throwing down.

[96] We forgot about that fight.

[97] Go to fight pass.

[98] Check that one out.

[99] Yeah, right.

[100] Bring that up.

[101] Leonard's still wildest dude I ever met.

[102] I love that guy.

[103] So do I, man. And so he calls me like, I need you to come down for a week.

[104] Come for one week.

[105] Help me get ready for Roger.

[106] He took the fight.

[107] on my three weeks note is something outlandish just like me and Leonard do right so I go down there I literally never left when I went down first day I walked into Jackson's in Rashad Keith St. Pierre Joe Daddy Stevenson I mean the list goes on and on and on and I was like wow this is what a real gym is like this is what and they all accepted me it was like I was like in the family right I called I owned a house in Denver I called my grandma said I'm never coming home I'm staying here.

[108] Sell the house, right?

[109] And I literally never went home.

[110] She would just slowly come down to visit me and bring me truckloads of shit, right?

[111] Literally.

[112] I lived in a closet, man, fuck, a third as big as this room.

[113] We had a bunk bed.

[114] Me and Leonard, and if one person was standing up, the other person had to be in the bed, that's how small this room was.

[115] And I lived there for two years above Jackson's and would train every day with him.

[116] Like I said, I never left.

[117] And Greg asked me. He sat me down after about, I don't know, a couple weeks of being there.

[118] He said, man, I want you to be my 55er.

[119] And at that time, he had a, there's a, the list of 55ers were nuts that he had.

[120] And I was like, wow, fuck, Greg Jackson, who at the time was the man, man, right?

[121] The gym was like a 90 % winning great.

[122] And he just, he's such a knowledgeable, awesome dude, man. And to see where the gym was to where the gym is now is, it's like heartbreaking to me. be honest.

[123] And you want to talk about loyalty, which is the biggest thing in this conversation that we're having right now is how they pick someone over me through being loyal.

[124] I stuck by Greg, even when the gym started going down, when Winkle John merged over, all the big pros left, it turned into like a puppy mill.

[125] You know, it wasn't, for, for, for, back when Greg had it and it was its own school, you couldn't turn up to a pro class.

[126] Like, like some guy couldn't just come here, knock on your door.

[127] Like you say, you get weirdos here all time next you know he has shin pads on and he's sparring there's literally be at the new gym bums come in off the street i swear to god and he'll fight these and we'll come in and put stuff on a fight that's a true story random bums off the street and uh that would never happen back so great doesn't run it anymore no he has he's like so out of the loop winkle john runs the entire thing and that's what is what is gregg doing he kind of stepped back for a couple of years man like kind of started doing other things and just kind of got burned out i guess Which is why I created the BMF ranch.

[128] I needed somewhere to go and something to do.

[129] So I created my office, which is Wink's argument with me right now saying, you be your old place, you don't ever come here, blah, blah.

[130] I said, well, I don't ever come here because you, the people you let in here is outlandish.

[131] Like anybody, you pay $150, you can get on the masses and spar with Holly Holmes.

[132] You know what I mean?

[133] That's what it's come to down there.

[134] And back in there was like private and just us and good pros.

[135] everyone there for the same mission trying to trying to get better you know but i've talked to some other people that i don't want to name sure they've said that when they go down there new guys will come in and it's literally a fight it is a fight it's a there's no there's no there's no there's no a bc class anymore it's like literally these guys come in they want to make a name of you but sometimes when you're towards the end of a fight camp you don't need those new guys you don't need that crazy sparring right right you need you need the guys you trust and right not some random guy i don't know right so it's just it's assinied me man what what they turn that place into it's crazy that that still happens in mma because you're never going to find that in boxing and boxing all sparring is controlled control control bring in the sparring partners you know who you're working with so i mean we talk loyalty again to me with gregg his name is on that building it's not it's wink jackson wink right jackson fucking wink your name's first even when it came to time to pick the decision and they said we want to go with Perry why the fuck didn't you stand because Greg's still with me he's like yeah I'll just come to the ranch and we'll sort this out and I'm like what the fuck are you talking about right you tell me I can't come into the jackson wing gym but you're going to back door and come to my fucking house and we're going to train to fight me while Perry is there at the gym you see everything he does and then you're going to come and you're going to train me not to mention you're holding classes there and he's watch I mean you might not be training him to beat me but but there's a lot of people there that have trained me for fucking years.

[136] So to me, that was the point I was saying, like, man, can we just not have him there for this camp?

[137] I mean, there's a lot of secrets that I, that, like, inner secrets that I have, like, you know, I'm fucking scared to death to fight.

[138] Like, that's the thing that they can tell him, like, or they tell him, you know, go get cowboy mad, you know, that's, he doesn't fight well when he's pissed off.

[139] So fucking piss him off, poke out and poke out and poke the bear, piss him off, get him out of his helmet, give him up, you know, the shit like this, right?

[140] So, and there's a lot of other things.

[141] small, dumb things that I do and tendencies that they've seen over the year or 10, yeah, right?

[142] Yeah.

[143] To me that's...

[144] It's very intimate.

[145] The relationship between a coach and a fighter is very intense.

[146] So for someone to violate that in that way, and you know, I don't think there's anything wrong with guys from a camp deciding to fight each other and you got to work that out, but for them to tell you that you can't...

[147] If Charles Condit, I agree with you.

[148] We figure it out.

[149] All right, Carlis, you go that way out.

[150] These are your times, your hours Respect each other, friends Training partners The new guy who just came in Like I said, nothing against Perry He's looking for He wants a home, right?

[151] He's looking, he felt like Jackson's his game He's great, I like that guy a lot Nothing's not him I mean, what is he going to do?

[152] Right, and I just said, hey Frank was going to go And train with him wherever I heard stories He was looking to go to Vegas anyway I don't have any idea man I was just like man Can we just not do it for this fight And then Winkle John called me on the phone Didn't he have the fucking balls Or the backbone to say it to my fucking face And I was right there with him Called me on the phone like oh Yeah We're actually gonna Go with Perry You know he pays money Again it comes back to the money I'm like So Perry pays him a percentage and you don't I only pay Greg For my entire career I've ever been there Because I don't like Winkle John's style I don't like his way he holds mitts I don't like the way he trains people What's different about what he does?

[153] it's the same thing right for you for me for john sam they're all the it's all the cookie cutter everything's got to the same and it never changes it's i don't understand how you could be a coach of the one of the greatest at one time the greatest gyms on the planet you know and then don't ever evolve don't ever change and don't run class and it's it to me it's he just drove that place into the ground man turned literally turned it into a puppy mill it's only about making money and for you guys on talking about a puppy meal when someone has a dog and they just fucking breed it and sell puppies and breed it and sell puppies that's that's what's happening that's the the infrastructure of this gym now let's talk about training there let's talk about coaching right gregg's supposed to be the the the general right i'm just a soldier how come i have to be now a general and a soldier that's the that's what's fucking up in my in my career i can't i need someone to tell me what to do tell me what not to do and i had to start my own school at the ranch bringing my own coaches but then now I'm making all the executive decisions when we're training, what we're training, what we're doing.

[154] And I'm not, I'm no longer just a soldier.

[155] I'm having to fucking run this whole thing.

[156] That's a problem for fighters.

[157] It's a problem for me too.

[158] I like to, I'm a fucking super alpha male and I like to communicate with my coaches and get everything done.

[159] And the guys I have are fucking standing by me and I love them to death, but I need someone to be like, you know what, you crazy fucking bastard.

[160] You're going too hard.

[161] You're going to taper off.

[162] Let's taper off.

[163] Let's pump to break.

[164] Or let's pick it up.

[165] Right, right.

[166] The fucking fun, fuck off part of your life is taking over into your training.

[167] Can we step it up a little bit?

[168] I need that.

[169] I need fucking direction.

[170] I need today we're working on this.

[171] Not just me going in there saying, ah, let's fucking wrestle today.

[172] You know what to do.

[173] So you know what to do, but it's also nice for someone else who knows what to do who's completely objective to stand in the outside.

[174] Because there's been, I'm in this so long.

[175] I could literally, Joe, never spar from now until the people.

[176] Perry fight and probably not even do one Jiu -Jitsu role and I would be okay to fight like mentally.

[177] Right.

[178] But that's probably not a very smart idea, right?

[179] Right, right.

[180] It's not you at your optimum.

[181] Exactly.

[182] So it's just, it's fucking ass -line to me and the coaches down there.

[183] So not only can somebody just ring the doorbell and show up and train, pay the money, you can pay the $25 a drop in or you pay the $150 the month, come to any class you want, but if you're a coach, you can just coach the class.

[184] It's that asinine to you.

[185] I see a new striking coach, a new wrestling coach, or a new jiu -jitsu guy in there twice a week probably.

[186] And they're coach in the class.

[187] Our main wrestling coach of Jackson Week, the greatest school in the fucking world, is a reception to a chiropractic upstairs.

[188] He's greatest credentials where he was a junior assistant coach at a college, I don't know the college name, who got fired for selling the kid's steroids.

[189] That's our wrestling coach as one of the greatest schools in the world.

[190] Is he a good coach?

[191] No, he's terrible.

[192] He's fucking god -awful terrible.

[193] He watches videos on YouTube and tries to teach people with things that don't even fucking work.

[194] It's asinying.

[195] Which is another room I had to hire my own coach and bring them in.

[196] It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, what?

[197] And now they don't even drill.

[198] They just go live and they want to know why people get hurt every day.

[199] It's like you can't just go in and say, okay, and we're wrestling, go.

[200] So do you think that people just get burnt out on doing things the right way?

[201] and they just they just figure look I'm just going to do this the way that makes the most money well I think and I wish I had I had the answer for that I do because I'm not in that position to I'm not running a gym and that's I've never done that because I don't want me showing up to class every single day would wear me the fuck out yeah it wears everybody it's got to yeah but you should have an infrastructure set in place that takes especially if you're the greatest at one time right if you're winning percentages are in the 80s and 90s and now they're in the 20s like I don't I have no clue what our, what our rating record of the gym is, but it's, it's nothing like it used to be, right?

[202] Yeah.

[203] And it's fucking, it's asinine to me, man. So the way you were doing is that you have the BMF ranch, you have everything set up, you bring in all your sparring partners, and you would be doing all your training out there.

[204] And how would Greg interact with that?

[205] We'd either show up down at Jackson's and spa because they still have got, there's still bodies down there, right?

[206] There's still guys.

[207] We'd show up down to spar.

[208] We'd bring all the guys down.

[209] Or Greg would come up, you know, three or four times a week to the ranch.

[210] And we just.

[211] How far is your ranch from?

[212] Fifty miles?

[213] house about a good hour solid hour drive into the vast nolans of new mexico do you like living out there i do i love it i was fucking love it so i sold my house i moved here i fucking planted roots now i could never ever sell my place i'm stuck in new mexico i'm moving back to color i'm a why could you never sell it because i have to sell it sounds like a crazy colt leaders of anybody out of listening wants to operate a colt are you talking the one right now i have the I have the perfect house.

[214] Talk to me about what kind of acreage you talk about.

[215] We've got 40 acres, 40 acres, plenty of rooms, buildings.

[216] What kind of animals are in your vicinity?

[217] Oh, well, yeah.

[218] This might be where we start.

[219] There's about an hour drive.

[220] You can run in some elk.

[221] We have, we got antelope everywhere, which is a crazy thing about antelope.

[222] You know they don't jump fences.

[223] Yeah, they won't jump fences.

[224] It's crazy, right?

[225] You can just literally corner them into a into a, into a, they occasionally jump a fence.

[226] They've been known to jump a fence, occasionally.

[227] It was very, very rare.

[228] You know, they evolved before the Ice Age.

[229] They evolved to get away from cheetahs.

[230] How are you so smart?

[231] That's what I want to know.

[232] I'm not smart.

[233] I just remember things.

[234] Dude, it's fucking insane.

[235] There was a mass extinction of giant land mammals.

[236] It's somewhere around 12 ,000 years ago in North America.

[237] And before then, there was cheetahs.

[238] There was actual North American cheetahs.

[239] Right.

[240] There was a North American lion that's bigger than the African lion.

[241] How about that shit?

[242] Giant -ass fucking lion.

[243] and that's where these fucking things Did you want another chew?

[244] I'll try that shit.

[245] I swallowed it last time.

[246] That's the only, whenever I meet people for autographs and they're like, I can't believe you got Rogan to fucking take a chew.

[247] Not just take it.

[248] I swallowed it.

[249] I didn't know what I was doing.

[250] Like a man. All right, round two.

[251] Here we go.

[252] What kind is this?

[253] So good.

[254] It's winter green Copenhagen.

[255] Under your chin, right?

[256] Under your lip.

[257] It's under your chin.

[258] You can put under your chain if you want.

[259] You can take just a little one.

[260] Too late.

[261] Too late.

[262] Take a giant one.

[263] Take a big upper liver.

[264] So there's that.

[265] There's turkeys out there.

[266] Turkey's great.

[267] I love turkey.

[268] I'm a bird hunting fanatic, man. Wow, man. I love birds.

[269] How many acres you got out there?

[270] 40 acres.

[271] Oh, wow.

[272] That's nice.

[273] Do you have a mule two?

[274] Forty acres in a mule, remember?

[275] But birds, I, I'm like a bird junkie.

[276] How did you find that spot?

[277] So when I moved out there and after I was in the gym for like a year and a half with Leonard, I was like, bro, you're like winning a bunch of UFC fights now.

[278] I'm in the WC.

[279] We're starting to get a little bit of money.

[280] Let's get a house together, right?

[281] Let's find a house.

[282] So I started looking kind of in the remote areas around where I knew I could commute in.

[283] But I wanted somewhere I could ride my dirt bike, shoot guns, just be.

[284] cowboy and um we found that place and i called my grandpa and i said hey i think i found a house he said i'll be right there and he came my grandma drove and he walked up to the lady and he handed her an envelope full of cash and said we'll take it just like that wow yeah it was probably 60 or 70 000 less than they were asking but he had real cash real cash And she said, we'll take it.

[285] My grandson wants it.

[286] And we'll take it.

[287] Wow.

[288] And I was like, oh, I was just showing like, okay.

[289] Thanks, grandma, right?

[290] Like, he just bought me a house.

[291] And he, like, believed in me, no matter what I did, I used to be on a magician.

[292] I used to, like, love magic, right?

[293] So he'd always buy me magic shit and sit there and watch me do it.

[294] And he was such a fucking cool dude, man. He used to do magic?

[295] Mm -hmm.

[296] Do you ever do shows?

[297] No, no. I mean, I was like 12, 13.

[298] I would do shows to my grandma, grandpa and my friends.

[299] And I still have like a toolbox full of magic stuff.

[300] I should bust it out and bring it out here one time.

[301] This is cool.

[302] You should.

[303] Are you good at it?

[304] Um, not like good.

[305] Like, you wouldn't be like, whoa.

[306] But there's some, some of the slide of hands stuff is pretty fun.

[307] And like the coin magic is good.

[308] And how do you keep this share from going in your mouth?

[309] You just, because it doesn't, for me, it doesn't see what it's stay put.

[310] What?

[311] Well, you keep drinking on top, but you got to, like, bury it with your tongue and then drink over it.

[312] Trying it.

[313] I fucking love it.

[314] So, yeah, greatest dude, man. It taught me a lot.

[315] Tell me a lot about loyalty and respect, man. And I called my grandma on my way here today.

[316] And I said, I'm going to fucking set fire to this bridge to Jackson's.

[317] And she wrote me back and said, well, you need to, like, are you attacking them logically?

[318] or are you out of anger?

[319] Which, which direction are we going here?

[320] Powerful grandma.

[321] Right?

[322] On the ball.

[323] Which direction are we going?

[324] And, uh, she said, and start spitting soon, huh?

[325] Yeah, you got to spit.

[326] She said, make sure, you know, always in life, don't ever paint yourself into a corner.

[327] these are major lessons you always do.

[328] But don't burn bridges you can't cross.

[329] Mm -hmm.

[330] But she told me today, fucking and let it go.

[331] Let them have it.

[332] They, they want to step across the line they do the line in the sand let them want to burn their own make them feel so bad they want to burn their own fucking gym to the ground you know it's like to me having the moment for Greg to say you know what wink my name's on this fucking gym Cowboys been with me from the start there's been times two or three camps ago where I've trained Greg maybe one or two times and I still write him a check I still write him a check and I pay him because he got me into this motherfucker and Loyalty to me is the top, top of the line thing, right?

[333] It's top of the line to me, too.

[334] That's why you're here.

[335] Right.

[336] And that's why they're not.

[337] And, you know, and it's unfortunate because I like Greg a lot.

[338] And I respect.

[339] I don't know much about Winklejohn other than his work.

[340] Right.

[341] What he's done with Holly and a lot of other people.

[342] And I was real torn up about this.

[343] That's why I contacted you.

[344] Sure.

[345] Sure.

[346] You know, when you told me that they were good.

[347] This is like a crazy scenario all around for everybody across the board.

[348] Like, wait, what do you?

[349] Like, what the fuck do you mean?

[350] what's happening here, you know, and it's crazy.

[351] It's wild.

[352] I appreciate you sticking by my side.

[353] Well, it was a situation where I didn't know what to do.

[354] Yeah.

[355] You know, I was like, I can't just ignore it.

[356] I would have to bring it up when they were here, and then I wouldn't get a full representation of it.

[357] Sure.

[358] I mean, do you feel like you're getting a full representation?

[359] There you go.

[360] I love it.

[361] I think I got to figure out how to do this right.

[362] It's a skill you learn how to tuck it in your...

[363] It's all over the place.

[364] It's in my mouth.

[365] Mine isn't a little ball right here.

[366] I don't know.

[367] Mine is not.

[368] Mine is not controlled.

[369] I'm going to wind up swall in this again.

[370] So if your name's on the thing, like...

[371] Right?

[372] There you go.

[373] Spit it out.

[374] I just don't have any control.

[375] Now you got to open another beer and wrench it.

[376] You got to give it a wrench.

[377] A wrench?

[378] Yeah.

[379] Oh, rinse.

[380] I thought you said wrench.

[381] Yeah, open a beer, rinse it out, spit it out.

[382] That way you don't get it any more swallowed.

[383] That way you're not.

[384] sick again.

[385] I wasn't sick last time.

[386] It was fine.

[387] Good.

[388] It was weird.

[389] I swallowed the whole thing.

[390] Fuck, yeah.

[391] I missed you, man. I missed you.

[392] It's been a while.

[393] So much has happened.

[394] I'm glad we got that kind of out of the way.

[395] I'm sure I'll circle back when I drink a little bit more.

[396] Yeah, I'm sure too.

[397] It's unfortunate.

[398] And I know what it must be like to try to keep the lights on in a big gym.

[399] And now they have dorms.

[400] It's huge, giant -ass place, huge overhead.

[401] I'm sure.

[402] All these people coming in, coming out and then you know how fighters are not you but some fighters they don't give a fuck about loyalty they just care about themselves they're on their path it's a it's a very solitary singular and selfish you're very selfish sport you kind of have to be right yeah and i think that's kind of where the team got cowboy's really selfish he has his own gym now well i had to i fucking had to man for the better of my family and me i had to keep evolving i couldn't spiral down this drain with you guys you know now michelle watterson just built a new gym She's doing the same thing in her backyard.

[403] Love her to death.

[404] She's doing that too?

[405] Doing it too.

[406] Her and her husband built a badass little gym all on it.

[407] All sponsored by on it.

[408] Really?

[409] Yeah, it's bitching, man. It's cool.

[410] Yeah, good for her.

[411] Yeah, Michelle, who -whoop.

[412] You know, but if you look at the track record since Wink is taken over, the gym, everyone's left.

[413] I mean, it's like you don't see a pattern here, wink.

[414] Like, maybe you should change something up or just not allowing it.

[415] Well, he's been fighting for a long time.

[416] Sure.

[417] And then training for a. a long time.

[418] I mean, he was a badass kickboxer before he ever got into training.

[419] And, you know, I think one of the things that happens with people, they just get this whole selfishness of the sport, it wears people down to a certain extent.

[420] There's camaraderie, but there's also selfishness.

[421] And they're all constantly going against each other.

[422] Sure.

[423] And, you know, having a gym like that, the expenses, the overhead, and then, you know, dealing with people that are just grab and grab and grab, and it's got to get overwhelming.

[424] And you see a guy like Mike Perry, who, you know, is a potential big star.

[425] He's a colorful kid.

[426] He's a knockout artist.

[427] He fucking loves to fight.

[428] If I was a coach, I'd be like, this is the kind of guy I want in my gym.

[429] He's a fucking animal.

[430] You know, it's a great asset.

[431] I'm super excited to fight him because this is one of those fights where we're going to go in the middle of the ring and we're going to fucking fight.

[432] The old school fucking, let's fight.

[433] Yeah.

[434] So, fucking, I'm pumped on it.

[435] I love the kid.

[436] You know, he's cool.

[437] He's crazy.

[438] Him and I would get along just great.

[439] He would do.

[440] So I got nothing, like I said, nothing about him or Frank.

[441] Frank is coach who, well, that's, Perry's working with Frank, another striking coach, who.

[442] Frank Lester, who is holding, holding the, the infrastructure of the gym together, almost single -handedly.

[443] You know, there's a couple of wrestling guys.

[444] Is Brandon Gibson still?

[445] Yeah, Brandon, so that.

[446] Brandon had a full -time job, just got promoted again in his government.

[447] government job.

[448] He has like a real government job job job on top of being a super job yeah yeah how the fucks he do that man I have no idea he has like a nine to nine to six job maybe maybe seven to six job really he's every morning up early take care his family he's a great dude I got nothing bad nothing but love for Brandon Gibson man nothing him and I just separate only because I need to I just want a different angle of striking it has it would mean it had nothing to do with he's a bad coach i lost my fight i'm firing you it's just fucking just trying something new just just trying something new that's all uh but yes gibson's kind of just works you know with john dots in with condit kind of i mean he doesn't have the time to go in there and just hold that gym together right so he um actually has a real job and he just got another promotion so he's like the top of the he started off as a lifeguard worked his way all the way of the city now he's damn near governor I think that's next.

[449] Governor is next.

[450] It's not hard.

[451] I had Gary Johnson in here.

[452] I think I could be governor in Mexico.

[453] No offense, Gary.

[454] Well, let's legalize pot and mushrooms.

[455] Is it not legal there?

[456] It's recreational.

[457] I mean, it's medical.

[458] You got to be AIDS.

[459] Yeah.

[460] Is it one of those places?

[461] One of those places?

[462] It's one of those places.

[463] This is a lot of places we got to have AIDS.

[464] Like, that used to be a lot of places.

[465] But, like, Vegas used to be like that.

[466] Now Vegas is Lucy Goose.

[467] Open wide.

[468] Vegas got full -on dispensaries.

[469] Man, fucking Vegas, man. Vegas is definitely a two -night town, man. Yeah, it's rough on the liver.

[470] It's rough on everything.

[471] It just takes you the fuck in, man. I was just there last night.

[472] I was out there for a big monster conference, and it's just like, you sit in your room, you're like, well, I could just go down and gamble, I guess.

[473] And then you start gambling.

[474] Have you ever played Baccarat?

[475] I don't play shit.

[476] I have never either, and I decided we tried Baccarat.

[477] Like, 007.

[478] like we'll be like double seven we'll go in there i played with with one of the higher ups in monster and he took us down that we played this game and uh fuck we want a shitload of money a shit load of money there was like five trick yeah yeah i'll take some of that i'm really smoke much pot but i'll do it just with that that stuff is that they grew that on the moon i saw a video of i'm breakdancing you break dance i do i used to i used to really break dance so i'm at the monster conference we'd lose a glass time i'm at the monster conference and Monster now has a breakdancing team.

[479] The what?

[480] Yes.

[481] Monster got me some badass bags, man. Yeah, Yeah, Hans a good dude, man. He's a great dude.

[482] Yeah, he takes care of, he takes care of a lot of people.

[483] Again, the infrastructure of Monster, great, right?

[484] Yeah.

[485] Great infrastructure monster.

[486] Yeah.

[487] So the Ambassador Hans takes care of it.

[488] Loyalty, family, super friendly, great guy.

[489] So I've seen the monster.

[490] I was going to tell you, I seen the Monster bags laying back there, fucking.

[491] I just got him.

[492] Gaston Bolanos.

[493] It was his idea.

[494] A little bit more of that.

[495] You're going to get crazy.

[496] Okay.

[497] I'm talking about space soon.

[498] Doing drugs to Joe.

[499] It's not drugs.

[500] It's nature.

[501] You're right.

[502] I'm with you.

[503] So the breakdancers, they start breakdancing.

[504] And then halfway through their show, they stop it.

[505] Look at this.

[506] Oh, yeah.

[507] So they set up a battle between me and this other guy, right?

[508] We just had to go out here and we have to break dance.

[509] I used to break dance back years ago.

[510] But on a slippery floor with cowboy boots.

[511] Yeah, I didn't have properly stretched.

[512] Yeah, that's not good.

[513] Oh, so fun, man. Look at you.

[514] Cowboy boots.

[515] Yeah, Cowboy boots.

[516] Monster shirt, getting down.

[517] Doing a little breakdancing.

[518] It was so fun, man. Look at you.

[519] Dude, we have a bunch of guys from 10th planet that started out as breakdancing.

[520] Geo Martinez, Richard Martinez.

[521] Your core strength, everything about it.

[522] Yeah, man, you can do a one -handed push up with your foot, a one -handed handstand with your feet up in the end, and you twist them around that's crazy control of your body it was it's like yoga on steroids it's it's so hard it's so hard it's it's even harder to do after 12 years of never even doing it again and then like and go with cowboy boots on here we go we had a bunch of these guys come in and Eddie called me up he goes do do do do do you know Eddie gets crazy he goes listen man break dancing break dancing is the thing it's the thing these guys are so fucking strong I can't even control them break dancers man these guys are like 140 pounds and they're like it's like holding on to a live wire yeah yeah they're so strong yeah what is that guy's name b -boy pocket kim is that what is his name is what is his name i put him on my instagram way back of the day this is Korean kid that is it doesn't even seem like a human can do what he does that's how i felt yesterday when those guys were dancing i was like he spins all on one hand he's on one hand hop it up and down in the air and spin it around and you're like Divide it Pocket Kim yeah watch this motherfucker This guy is such a beast It's crazy to watch There's a bunch of these guys now They're con there's this stance elements Is this one guy?

[523] Yeah look at this motherfucker Look at this motherfucker I mean what the fuck is he doing It's called air tracks That is crazy It's called air tracks What he's laying right there That's crazy Yeah it's like flaring in the air That is Damn near impossible to do That guy is a freak.

[524] He's the freak of all freaks.

[525] It's crazy what he can do.

[526] And there's a few of those guys.

[527] If you go to that stance elements, click on that stance elements, Jamie.

[528] These guys are, there's, I didn't know about this until Tim Ferriss put it on his Instagram.

[529] He put pocket cam on.

[530] And then I went and watched these guys.

[531] These guys are doing just insane physical acrobatics along with music.

[532] But I feel like the kids now are doing insane everything.

[533] Yeah.

[534] snowboarding, dirt biking.

[535] Jitsu, everything.

[536] Everything is on a whole other playing field, right?

[537] Yeah.

[538] And MMA fighters.

[539] These young guys that are coming in.

[540] Are not just solely one discipline, right?

[541] They have everything.

[542] They're MMA fighters.

[543] You've seen these new guys, like Zabit is one of my favorite guys to watch.

[544] Zabit Magamad Sharapov.

[545] Say that five times five.

[546] It's like these new high -level guys are coming in, and you're looking at him, like, oh, okay, we just hit the new evolution.

[547] There's a new evolution going on with these young guys coming up.

[548] It's fascinating.

[549] But that's to be expected, right, with everything, I guess.

[550] Especially with social media.

[551] You get to see these guys, like on Instagram.

[552] You get to see the moves that that guy's doing, and all these other break dancers get to see it.

[553] They would have to see it live.

[554] Now they're seeing it in Korea.

[555] They're seeing it in Japan.

[556] They don't have to travel, and they're seeing these moves.

[557] And you slow down.

[558] We watch it and learn and learn and learn, right?

[559] It's crazy time.

[560] Crazy to.

[561] And not only do we get to watch, but we also get the shit -ass guy in his basement.

[562] They get to talk shit about that.

[563] Yeah, there's a little bit of that.

[564] There's a lot of it.

[565] You can't pay attention to that cowboy.

[566] It burns my soul.

[567] Yeah, but you're too good to pay attention to that.

[568] I hate, I wish I was too good to say that.

[569] But I get, it's just like if I was coming here and someone out in the parking lot said something to me, I said, what the fuck?

[570] What the fuck you're talking to like that?

[571] You know, like we'd have, it'd be a moment there.

[572] Oh, yeah.

[573] Yeah.

[574] So that's how I still feel today.

[575] But, well, that's why you're cowboy.

[576] Yeah.

[577] That's why you're who you are.

[578] You know what to help you a little bit of this?

[579] Yes.

[580] A little bit of a new mood.

[581] New mood.

[582] The super new mood.

[583] The super new mood.

[584] Get you some of the real new mood.

[585] That's it.

[586] That's a gift for me to you.

[587] I'm glad you enjoyed that.

[588] Yeah, man. Your buddy Paul.

[589] Paul Stammis.

[590] Paul Stammis in light.

[591] Okay, let's back this up.

[592] Let's back it all up.

[593] Let's take this train back.

[594] Just a little bit.

[595] Okay.

[596] So you speaking about DMT.

[597] Let me, let's back up one more.

[598] One more.

[599] Beep.

[600] I've never done.

[601] any drugs in my entire life ever.

[602] I did a lot of drugs here already.

[603] I did nicotine.

[604] We're back up.

[605] Remember, we're backed up.

[606] I've never done any drug ever, never ever.

[607] What year was this?

[608] Two years ago.

[609] Oh, you did booze.

[610] I don't, that's legal.

[611] Oh, legal.

[612] Legal drug.

[613] Oh, it's almost a law.

[614] You're a product of drugs.

[615] I am a product of drugs.

[616] It's not a bad drug.

[617] It's a fantastic drug.

[618] It's made for great jokes, fun times, right?

[619] How many fucking things?

[620] good times.

[621] Have people had because of Budweiser.

[622] God bless you, Budweiser.

[623] Salute.

[624] So, it's a good drug.

[625] I've never regulated.

[626] You know, you know what one bottle does?

[627] That's what I like.

[628] Makes you want two.

[629] You know what one bottle does makes you want two.

[630] Right, but that's, that's on you, man. One bottle, you have some goddamn self -control.

[631] One bottle, you know what a bottle of Budweiser does.

[632] It's really clear.

[633] True.

[634] It's like you eat a fucking pot brownie.

[635] It could be anything.

[636] You know, you could be, who knows the fuck you're getting?

[637] I got that limit in Utah.

[638] thing is 3 .2%.

[639] Poor people in Utah.

[640] You know, they're rebranded.

[641] Did you know the Mormons are rebranded?

[642] I found out this last night.

[643] They don't call Mormons anymore.

[644] Eric Griffin was telling me, calling a Mormon.

[645] A Mormon is like calling a small person a midget.

[646] Yep.

[647] What do you call them?

[648] Latter -day Saints.

[649] Oh, wow.

[650] Shout out to the Latter -day Saints.

[651] Magic underwear.

[652] Magic underwear.

[653] God dare.

[654] So, no drugs.

[655] Okay.

[656] No drugs.

[657] You hear you talking about DMT.

[658] Everyone's on his DMT ride.

[659] Just sponsored by I was still a company called On It, which is now fucking huge company, which I love.

[660] By the way, the gut health.

[661] All, yeah, probiotics, man. That's my, that's my favorite.

[662] Yeah.

[663] Do you eat kimchi or anything like that?

[664] You ever eat?

[665] No. You should.

[666] You should.

[667] Get involved with some probiotics.

[668] You know, kefir's really good.

[669] Camcheo's really good.

[670] Now your people are like, oh, you're talking about your diet again.

[671] Oh, man. It's good.

[672] It's good.

[673] People need to know.

[674] Like, you got to take care of your internal.

[675] You know, so you don't see that gut health, man. but it affects your depression, your mood, the way your brain works, where your immune system functions.

[676] God helps everything.

[677] Those little on -it packets are key, man. I don't travel without those bitches.

[678] I don't go a day without them.

[679] They've got a new packets for them now.

[680] They're not in the same old box, more high -tech, cool, sweet -looking box now.

[681] Well, they exist on the substrate that's in those capsules.

[682] That's one of the ways you don't have to refrigerate it.

[683] It's so good for travel.

[684] Right.

[685] Because it's just, I think you should have a variety of probiotics, but I think it's one of the most critical things that people don't think about.

[686] Anyway, so drugs Drugs Aubrey said Hey, why don't you come out We got a little group of people doing Some DMT Did he do the whole ceremony?

[687] Music, chants Everything Ecos Everything The whole thing We smoked tobacco Out by the fire Talk about what we were going I'm going to play some of that eco rose Talk about Talk about what direction we wanted this to go You know What we wanted the journey to consist of I call my best friends up take them with me and we go out there and we fucking we do this we sit in this room we go through the chance and the ceremony and I'm scared to death because I've never done anything right scared scared never done anything I wish that's it waking it wake it up the spirits you just have that that's your it's on oh dude this can take this can make me trip if I listen to this if I eat a pot brownie listen to this and get in the tank I'll our trip in.

[688] All right.

[689] Because when you do DMT and you hear this, they dance for you.

[690] Right.

[691] The whole, the experience.

[692] You realize what this is.

[693] This is like a technology to maximize DMT.

[694] And while you're on this DMT, this is playing in the background.

[695] On a drum and chants and, yeah, that's what's going on.

[696] I wasn't in a super spooky night camera room like this, but it was, you know, it was.

[697] Aubrey has a nice he knows what the fuck he's doing the fuck he's doing the real way you might be a beautiful man really spiritual in the room he might be a beautiful man with a beautiful body and looks like he's running a sex cult but what he really is doing is doing it the right way you say it looks like legitimately legitimately doing it the right way I can maybe sell the ranch to Aubrey and the sex cult well listen Aubrey and I are a partner We'll talk after this podcast is over I just need to know what kind of zoning you have And whether not you have water on the property I can have water You got a well I have a well Two wells actually So what happens All right So this music plan They load the pipe Which to me looks like pink cocaine Right like Like dust pink dust And they load it in this pipe And he says just light it And you want to breathe fresh air out of the corner You're mouth like As you're taking this harsh smoking.

[698] It smells like burning plastic.

[699] It's harsh.

[700] And he says, just hit it until you can't anymore.

[701] I'm like, what the fuck does that mean?

[702] I thought I can hit this forever.

[703] So I hit it and I hit it and then all of a sudden I say, oh, you hit it until you can anymore and he starts getting wavy.

[704] And then I just, the pipe falls out on the mouth and I fall back.

[705] The entire world comes like zooming into me, like hit black and I shoot through this fucking kaleidoscope of colors maybe 10 seconds.

[706] and blow out the top like Superman out of the top of this tube of colors into pits total black darkness and I'm looking at myself from like the third person and I'm just hovering in midair and everywhere that I've ever been injured or hurt is glowing blight like super white like the whitest white fire I've ever seen like my head's on fire my arms and fists are I feel like something out of a fucking movie I'm just suspended air burning and I keep like asking myself questions and then I don't know if it's me but I answer back to myself right I'm bugging the fuck up because you can still hear this music going I can hear the people giggling next to me I can hear the next guy lighting the lighter and he's now going and meanwhile I'm just burning and I'm talking to myself about whatever question I answered, right?

[707] And then all of a sudden, just as fast as I came in, I kind of eyes woken, I woke up, and I still see the rest of the guy's room because they, like, systematically go around the room in an order.

[708] They're in, there, and there, and she hits.

[709] Now the pipe comes around again, and now it's my turn again.

[710] Now I'm really excited.

[711] I almost wish halfway through the trip, you could fucking hit it again and go back in.

[712] So I hate it.

[713] This time I'm thinking, yeah, I want to go back to that again.

[714] I want to go back to where I just was.

[715] So I fucking hit the pipe, hit the pipe, hit the pipe.

[716] Now I hit the pipe so goddamn hard.

[717] And I hold my breath.

[718] I fall over to the side.

[719] I fall to my left side.

[720] And I'm tipped over.

[721] Well, I sit back up because you're still there, right?

[722] You're not like in another dimension.

[723] You're not out of your body experience.

[724] So I sit back up, but the entire trip now is sideways.

[725] And I'm looking at this trip.

[726] I'm looking at crazy black rainbows.

[727] And I can't explain what a fuck a black rainbow looks.

[728] like but they're waving with sparkles and black into a keyhole that's turned sideways and through the keyhole a crazy light shapes and darts and every time i almost get to this keyhole it just sucks back more something i got to move like yoh what and then i crawl to it again i try to get the keyhole and it sucked back again and there was no word spoke in this one it was me just trying to get to this sideways keyhole and I just get my hand to crawl through it and it would fucking take off again and I woke up and that was that was my DMT experience.

[729] You've only done it once?

[730] I only done it one time.

[731] I want to do it again.

[732] Yeah, you need to do it again.

[733] So they talk about marijuana.

[734] They talk about marijuana being a gateway drug.

[735] No, DMT is a gateway drug for me. What's a gateway drug too?

[736] It allows you to do other drugs And now I do a lot of mushrooms Well, it's one of those things It lets you know that all your ideas About what drugs are are out the window Right All your ideas about what reality Is are out the window Because you didn't think that this was a part of reality How could anybody ever think it Before you experience it?

[737] What I don't get is things that Shapes and colors that I couldn't Almost like you don't see today where I could see him there and I could have like the shapes and the movements it was just so weird like you're right like reality is like what the fuck how is that reality and it seems more vivid than reality more vivid but the cool thing I want to tell people listening like you can just open your eyes right I mean you would be real hazy and kind of gone but I could open eyes I could see the candles burning over there I can hear a lighters going and then you're like oh I'm I'm okay I'm not in another dimension I'm not going to get stuck in this crazy other world.

[738] And then I'd close my eyes and then I'd go back into it.

[739] And, yeah, you're, I mean, it's like the most of the realest dream you've ever seen, right?

[740] Yeah.

[741] There's another one called 5 MEO DMT, 5 Methoxy DMT.

[742] And it's, uh, is that the one we're doing tonight?

[743] That's a different one.

[744] That one makes people really scared.

[745] That's a different one because you cease to exist on that one.

[746] Right.

[747] It's more powerful, actually.

[748] More potent.

[749] Yeah, which is crazy to think.

[750] There's something more potent than DMT, but it's more psychoactive in some ways.

[751] And it's one of those weird ones.

[752] It doesn't have visuals either.

[753] But you just go to everything.

[754] You go to heaven.

[755] You become a part of it all.

[756] It was just how crazy how clear and sense you could make of the unscences, right?

[757] Like I try to explain now, and it sounds weird.

[758] But when I was in it, it's like, everything's so clear.

[759] Yeah.

[760] But you realize how much of what's holding you back.

[761] in this life is like insecurity and fear and and and it just just not knowing you know and confusion and all this and then it just sort of like pours water on the stuff that's dirty and cleans all the bullshit out and goes no it's all love it's all happiness friends experiences life camaraderie those are the important things that's that you have a you have a chance in this life to spread more of that and help other people spread more of that and keep this ball role and that could really change the world.

[762] It changes the world because the people that you impact ripple out and they impact other people.

[763] Or you can just get caught up and arguing with people online.

[764] You know, you can get caught up in the water over the dirt and just the chaos of it all.

[765] It doesn't take much to get me caught up.

[766] But that's also why you're a great fighter.

[767] You know, those things go hand in hand.

[768] If you're a person just accepted bullshit, maybe you wouldn't be the guy that gets up in the morning when you don't want to.

[769] Maybe you wouldn't be the guy that takes those fights on short notice and goes, fuck it.

[770] Maybe you'd be the guy that would be like, what this is not the right move from my career i have to sit back i have to you're not a you're you're a wild man and that's why people love you but that's also that needs to be kind of it needs to be appreciated but also managed right the chaos of your personality and how you approach things i mean you almost fucking died in a cave for you yeah bro that this is what you do that's that's my other drug adrenaline yeah yeah you got adrenaline man yeah the things that people are scared of you flock to it's like you want to prove that you're not scared of them and i am i'm just as scared as you are sure like skydiving i love it because it's like who yeah and we go yeah there's no there's no if ands or butts when you jump out of a fucking plane i'm flying planes now get my pilot's license really yeah i'm putting i've i started a little while back i quit for a while but now i'm back i'm all in i'm flying and uh i'm loving it i was just telling you i watched that lern skinner documentary last night, don't fly a shitty plane.

[771] That's how we lost Leonard Skinner.

[772] Yeah.

[773] They needed to get their fucking plane fixed.

[774] Drugs.

[775] Drugs.

[776] Fucking drugs.

[777] Fucking drugs.

[778] Fucking pillheads, man. The next time I'm on in two years and I come back, I'll be fly out.

[779] Yes.

[780] I'll fly out here.

[781] Yeah, man. You're so wild, man. That's a bold move, man. Learned how to fly.

[782] I mean, that's the ultimate, right?

[783] That's, that's a...

[784] John Jurt, drink a beer with you, buddy.

[785] This is me too, brother.

[786] We just a little campfire.

[787] We fucking said.

[788] slicing deer Exactly We should We should definitely do that One of these days You should come to us To Lanai with us Okay You would love it man It's the craziest hunting ever And it's like one of the most ethical You have to kill them There's 30 ,000 deer On this one island Two to no 20 ,000 deer And 3 ,000 people Let's touch that A little subject for a minute About We now have to kill these animals Why?

[789] Because there's so many people out there They're like Fuck you hunters What are you doing?

[790] Why would you want to take a life?

[791] Yeah, well, Lanai is a different example because it's an island.

[792] Sure.

[793] A island filled with deer and there's no wolves and there's no mountain lines.

[794] Like, people have to eat them.

[795] They're fucking everywhere.

[796] Yeah, because if they don't, they're just going to...

[797] They're overpopulated.

[798] They're going to die.

[799] Yeah, of course.

[800] Yeah.

[801] But, I mean, I think the hunting thing, the anti -hunting thing is probably real similar to what we're talking about with psychedelic drugs.

[802] It's people who haven't experienced it.

[803] They don't know what it really is.

[804] And they, a lot of them still, I mean, 97 % of the people in this country, eat meat.

[805] I'm one of them.

[806] Yeah.

[807] But it's a crazy number when you think about how many people get hated on for hunting.

[808] That means for sure some of those people that are hating also eat meat which is one of the most crazy hypocrisies ever.

[809] Crazy.

[810] Right?

[811] I mean, when you look at it like that with the numbers.

[812] Yeah.

[813] Because they are.

[814] They're like they, as they're eating their hamburger on the same breath, they're telling you would a piece of shit you are for killing ducks.

[815] Yeah.

[816] Yeah.

[817] And it's just connection do you think vegans um if a mosquito lands on them do they do they slap it and kill about that all time and do they kill mice that are nibbling in the corner of their house and making noise so they can't sleep do they set a mouse trap out that's a good question or do they shoot do they shoot the fly with the badass new salt fucking shotgun are you me i'm picking the bitches off i even let i open the door and let them waft them in from the horse shit come on in boy they got got a little bit of blap and do it here flap So, yeah, do they, I mean, does some of them, does a mosquito or a fly not have a soul?

[818] I went to an ashram once, and the lady had an ant spray out.

[819] And I was like, what are you doing with that?

[820] She's like, oh, we have an ant problem here.

[821] I go, you got an ant problem here.

[822] I go, so you kill them with the spray?

[823] I go, that's fucking crazy.

[824] This is an ashram.

[825] Right?

[826] This is a Buddhist ashram.

[827] And you are spraying ant spray.

[828] You're poisoning death from the sky.

[829] From the sky.

[830] Yeah, like your fucking air warfare on these poor little beings because you don't like the They get too close to your garbage.

[831] It's heavy.

[832] It's heavy.

[833] It's crazy.

[834] When you put it in perspective like that, they don't have an answer.

[835] What do when you wash yourself?

[836] What about all those microbiome on your body?

[837] You're killing all that shit with soap.

[838] What are you doing?

[839] What are you doing?

[840] It's a Holocaust.

[841] Every time you wash your asshole, it's a Holocaust.

[842] You're killing all this life forms.

[843] No if -ans or butts.

[844] Every, I mean, it's just a batter of what, and the other problem is, there's real evidence that somehow or another plants communicate with each other.

[845] Of course.

[846] If not awareness, they have some sort of information exchange between each other.

[847] And they change their taste based on whether or not other ones are getting eaten.

[848] It activates certain responses in the plants.

[849] And they become like really bitter and disgusting to animals so that animals don't eat them.

[850] Right.

[851] You know, and they do this with like, they can have a recording.

[852] They can play a recording of caterpillars eating leaves next to a plant and it'll change its flavor profile.

[853] It excretes some sort of a chemical so that it discourages predation.

[854] There's some intelligence to those things.

[855] I think that's just evolving, right?

[856] It's having to.

[857] It's like, ooh, we're no longer going to exist if this happens.

[858] We have to evolve with the change.

[859] What you talk about us becoming who we are today.

[860] From super primates to right?

[861] And I think now we're caught in an era where the weak are still allowed to coexist.

[862] with us.

[863] Yeah, there's a little bit of that.

[864] And a giant we fucking create.

[865] They don't want to be week, right.

[866] But, you laugh at that, but it's true.

[867] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[868] It's true.

[869] And I just had a baby boy and I can't wait to stand on the sidelines of these soccer games and football games.

[870] And I can't wait to show up to fucking track day.

[871] And I'm bringing fucking medals and trophies because my kid's not getting a fucking participation ribbon.

[872] He's here to win.

[873] right when do we draw the line back of of you don't just because you are weaker you get a participation ribbon there's no more competition there's no understanding of psychology can't protect people from bad feelings like losing those that's what propels you that's what makes you better that's what we're that's what they're doing so you're telling me if my kid's an awesome awesome football player and he's on the team running touchdowns he has to sit the bench because Tommy didn't get enough time to play and not only that Tommy you're his weak -ass dad who fucking secret emails the coach behind my back you know what I mean like that shit to me what the fuck so I can't I'm so excited to join this new new journey of parenthood parenthood it's so crazy man these kids and there's not all parents though you know some parents realize how stupid it is there's parents out there just like you sure just like this is ridiculous like kids have got a this is a guy that's uh his his daughter goes school with uh my daughter and uh i always gravitate towards him because he got a neck tattoo yeah immediately i'm like anybody with a neck tattoo i'll relate to this motherfucker because that's a life decision yeah you neck tat you motherfucker we're gonna be all right because we're we're i don't have a neck tat but i know how you're living so i'm with you i'm with you these kids were playing rough and and he looked at me he goes whatever happened to like getting hurt whatever happened like falling down learning how oh well we shouldn't do that that hurts yeah well now learn how to fall better now learned how to not do that anymore well this this thing was going to make you slip and scuff your knee it's okay yeah like that's part of learning you can't nerf the world you can't nerf the fucking world when you nerf the world and then you empower these people that have lived in a nerved environment that's a problem they haven't experienced real adversity and they're mean yeah one of the reasons why they're mean is because they're scared yeah like a lot of these these people on social media that are really mean they're the ones who are the most scared and they're the ones who are the most weak for sure and the fact that they're so vulnerable is what's leading them to lash out and try to hurt other people because they're so easy to hurt and they're so damaged i mean that's that's literally the the results of living in a nerved world but these people that you say are so weak how is that satisfying them to disable somebody that's not they don't know what to do they're hurting and they just lash out.

[874] Like, how are they writing an email?

[875] Like, I'm going to get this motherfucker.

[876] And they're like, ooh, and then they see this.

[877] Like, what?

[878] That's gratifying for them?

[879] They're like, oh.

[880] It's not even.

[881] It seems like it would be because they're just trying to hurt you.

[882] They're trying to, like, get you.

[883] But then eventually it comes back and gets them.

[884] It's like, they have to understand.

[885] LeBron James isn't doing that.

[886] No. You're like, no winners are out there doing that.

[887] This is loser behavior.

[888] Yes.

[889] You're lashing out at others who are doing.

[890] doing while you're not unless it's like if you have a legitimate problem with someone you talk about lebron like what in the NBA they don't just sit him down because the other player 22 hasn't got enough hasn't got no no fucker go ahead and score again okay we're with you right here we got to make some money right it's good it's good in the when we're paying to watch on tv but when your kids in it i don't get it man but i haven't experienced yet i've only had friends who have so i'm fucking so excited to it's fascinating just to watch them evolve watch the little minds grow, watch talking to them you know, just experiencing life through these new eyes and seeing them learn things.

[891] He's definitely he'll be a little fighter.

[892] He's a, this a rotten son of a bitch.

[893] He sleeps with his hands up and we have this sleeps with his hands up, both hands up.

[894] I'm like, what are you doing?

[895] And he just like flexes him out and he'll put him back and he flexes him out.

[896] I'm like, what are you doing, man?

[897] It's so cool.

[898] I put him in this little jumper and he has two, he has blue frog and this red fish and I don't know what this red fish did do him but that motherfucker would just slide sideways and just look stank on him out of it for just sit there and stare at him 20 minutes no movement no crying just slouched over and he cornered peers at this red at this red fish and I'm like dude what are you doing it you know and I'll like and I'll spin him and like play with them and then he just finds him again and just has a staring contest with this fucking thing that's hilarious it's practicing practice it well I think that shit definitely carries on through the child It has to, right?

[899] It has to.

[900] It has to.

[901] I mean, there's things that people learn, like, well, why a kid's scared of monsters?

[902] Well, you have to be careful of predators.

[903] You know, there's lessons you learn.

[904] You see things that are scary.

[905] Like, why do people have, like, a fear of snakes?

[906] Are we out of beer?

[907] Is this the last one?

[908] No, we got a whole shit.

[909] Oh, perfect.

[910] Okay.

[911] These boy ones are going down so smooth.

[912] They do go down so smooth.

[913] Yeah.

[914] I mean, I think, for sure, there's some of your personality is going to be transferred through your DNA, your life lessons.

[915] God, I can't wait, man. I'm so excited.

[916] Yeah.

[917] So cool to see him.

[918] And how early are you going to start training him?

[919] Right away.

[920] So he never knows anything else.

[921] He's in not only Joe, is he not going to, he's not going to know anything else, but we're dirt biking.

[922] We're wakeboarding.

[923] We're fucking scuba diving.

[924] Every crazy thing I do, he's going to do.

[925] And he's going to be fucking launching huge air.

[926] And he's going to get around his other kids.

[927] and he's just kind of think that's just what you do.

[928] Like this is, right.

[929] Oh, you guys don't do that?

[930] Right.

[931] Oh, that's, I've been doing that for five years.

[932] Yeah.

[933] So he won't know any different.

[934] And, yeah, I would definitely train him in wrestling and jiu -jitsu and kickboxing.

[935] Absolutely.

[936] Absolutely.

[937] And I'm going to be the dad when he goes and beats a kid up at school.

[938] I'm like, what?

[939] Danger!

[940] You fucking animal.

[941] His name is danger?

[942] Your son's name is danger.

[943] His first.

[944] name's Daxon.

[945] My name is Donald Anthony Seroni, so his name is D -A -C, my initials and then S -O -N, so he's my son.

[946] Danger -Sorone.

[947] Daxon, Danger, Cerone.

[948] And I'm going to say, Danger!

[949] What are you doing in here?

[950] You can't be beating these kids up, and then as soon as we get in the hallway, fucking fist bump, whatever you want, boy, let's go.

[951] Well, you already have evidence now on video.

[952] Yeah, parents are going to go, you need to watch this video.

[953] I mean, that's, if he's in there, you know, defending his sisters or doing whatever he has to do, something with him.

[954] Yeah.

[955] Get you some boy.

[956] What's going to, the world's going to be like just 10 years.

[957] Yeah, when he's, yeah, when he's, think about how weird it is from 10 years ago.

[958] How where's it going to be 10 years?

[959] In my high school, we had beepers.

[960] That's right.

[961] Beepers.

[962] Remember when people had beepers that also could send text messages, like, what the fuck?

[963] You're taking it too far.

[964] And I had a voice.

[965] You could leave a voice message on mine.

[966] You could talk a voice and you can call this and do it.

[967] But yeah, I mean, these kids, your kids are have no idea what it is the past.

[968] a note right or call um um mr um mr rogan um how i was i was just wondering if uh i could talk with sarah would that be cool it's after nine o 'clock idiot click yeah that after nine o 'clock deal right yeah you have to be real careful what time you call text in a bad precedent picture taken but i think the picture taken is also taken a lot away from life like even me i get caught and i'll go to lunch with three of my friends and two minutes into lunch we're all instagram who's rogan got on the show today you know yeah yeah i know it's it's it is a problem you you lose a lot of your life to these fucking things a lot of it yeah and it sucks you in but it's also so awesome because so much is learned like you said it needs to be managed and you see like i don't think right now if you want to talk about we were just discussing the different kinds of releases on the bow right well maybe i don't know about you i literally two seconds ever i leave here i can youtube it and i can i can you know it all i can know it all yeah it's crazy i can have experts on every single release make my own judgment and decide what i want to do yeah and that's crazy nowadays you know and that's the world is so much better in a sense i think because you can do that but it takes away a lot of the bullshit people used to have do you probably when you were in school and the guy tells you I'm this, this, this, this and this.

[969] Yeah.

[970] There's nobody other than Jimmy saying, uh -huh, yeah, I was there.

[971] Right?

[972] Yeah, he never knew.

[973] Now you just go ahead like, wait, nah, man, that, uh, yeah, that's negative.

[974] You, you are not a gold medalist.

[975] Right?

[976] Well, you still see some of those guys are still floating around.

[977] This is a few of those guys are still floating around.

[978] that somehow another made it through the net and they're like the dark they came in the dark net they're floating around right now like kind of like skating on the boundaries of incredulity it's so bizarre yeah there's a lot of frauds out there they're still still kind of operating fake black belts fake gold medalists fake yeah why would you want to be a fake black belt they don't know any better they just they just been lying their whole life mostly it's like the demons that you experience when you do mushrooms, they got their own demons.

[979] And, you know, maybe it was childhood molestations.

[980] So you think those people that lie that is just major, that's just what they do?

[981] They were probably beaten as kids.

[982] Their parents were shit.

[983] Everybody lied to them.

[984] Well, why does it have to be that person?

[985] Why does it have to be that person?

[986] Why does, why can't it be the rich kid that's born in Beverly Hills that has everything?

[987] And he lies to?

[988] He's still a liar.

[989] He still.

[990] Why can he be just big of a piece of shit as them?

[991] He could be.

[992] But I bet a lot of those, like, real severe lighters, they come from a, abuse because they have to like create a false life but you get a lot of abuse in rich households too especially like you know maybe the dad has to work 16 hours a day as a banker or something like that he's never home the mom's on drugs no one's taking care of the kids they're hanging around with a bunch of other lost kids in their school and they're all doing drugs together and fucking off and crime and all kinds of shit just to be just to have excitement in their life because they're so bored and confused and lost and lonely and they start lying too right well i mean it all comes from the same place whether it comes from a rich kid or a poor kid it comes from your life being fucked up and you you're not you're not liking who you are you know so you need to eat mushrooms that'll help and deal with the demons deal with the demons and then go do something go do something so that you know that you could you could experience some nerves you know and you could you could rise the occasion sure you know i mean and learn about yourself that you can overcome and you make mistakes and fail and then try it again and succeed and then what the the bad feelings that you get like when you're worried about losing you know and these these these fears it's because winning is so high man i've seen you win so many times i've called so many of your fights and you know i look right in your eyes whenever you win and there's just like this dude's on fire right now he's just like there's no other i couldn't even explain you that feeling because no one can nobody can.

[993] It is like...

[994] You have to do it.

[995] Other than...

[996] Fuck.

[997] Fuck yeah.

[998] Right.

[999] Like that's the feeling.

[1000] You know what I mean?

[1001] Like that's...

[1002] But it's fuck yeah at times like a million.

[1003] Who.

[1004] You know?

[1005] You know?

[1006] And God, it's the highest highs, man. It's just insane how cool it feels.

[1007] I've seen like...

[1008] With you particularly like chaos.

[1009] Right.

[1010] Like there's something about chaos when you just crack someone and then it's over.

[1011] And then you're walking around.

[1012] I'm like, you'll, you'll, you'll, like, you'll, you'll, you'll, you're like glowing what you're like I'm in my DMT yeah you did it you went through all the fucking demons and all the darkness and all the fear and all the insecurity and then you landed and then it's over and then it's just as fast as it started it's over and that's crazy it's that's over and now you're back and then it's like hey four weeks from now blah blah fell out yeah what are you going to do like we're going to fucking do it again we're going to start over yeah we're going to start all over And people always ask me, like, how long are you going to fight until?

[1013] I'm going to fight until I don't love it anymore, Joe.

[1014] I really am, man. I don't have an answer for anybody.

[1015] Like, it's a good answer.

[1016] The day that I wake up and I'm like, nah, uh -uh.

[1017] What we need is medical science to catch up where they could fix everything 100%.

[1018] Right.

[1019] Like head injuries, node injuries, everything.

[1020] Just put people in some sort of microwave machine where they just bring it back to 100%.

[1021] percent.

[1022] Thank you, sir.

[1023] So then fighting becomes a matter of temporary injury rather than permanent injury.

[1024] And then it's a whole, and then it's a whole other ball of wax.

[1025] It's a whole other ball of wax.

[1026] Everyone's fighting 100 % healthy.

[1027] Yeah, and you also don't have to worry about like your long -term health, which is like one of the big problems with fighting.

[1028] Yeah, you're like, you want to arm bar me and break it?

[1029] Right.

[1030] Did you see the guy who got his motherfucking arm roll, crack the last fight?

[1031] Was it last Friday?

[1032] Lincoln, Nebraska.

[1033] I didn't see who got armbard A guy from Colorado I watched the crowd's fight I thought such a shit I don't know his name He um The Brazilian guy took him down Arm barred him Had it snapped it Not in snapped it popped it And pulled it all the way back And had it bent He said man I felt it pop But I told myself We ain't losing this And he just kept Kept on all But it's moments like that That you could just say Fuck it break it Because I'm going in his microwave Yeah I'm going right from here ambulance to the to the microwave 10 minutes I'm fucking I'm fucking re -cook me yeah recook me that's possible someday maybe it's not in our lifetimes but it's possible someday and fighting's going to be a different thing like that was what was so impressive about John when Vitor got his arm right Vitor oh here he's oh Jesus wait until he he uh oh man this is nasty this is right right tap he taps right here but before before before I don't know I don't know what I got out of that Yeah before this He puts it behind his back And he has it fucking bowed This guy used to train in Jackson's too The Brazilian guy on the bottom Hmm Yeah when John got a tap by Vitor That was so nasty I mean he was fully hyper -extended And just didn't tie And his arm was fucked up for a while after all right That's why he had to host the ultimate fighter Correct He really couldn't train properly with it.

[1034] Yeah, that's going to be a different animal in the future when people aren't worried as much about permanent damage.

[1035] Right.

[1036] I hope I need it because I do a lot of permanent damage.

[1037] Yeah, most damage today is permanent damage.

[1038] All these wild excursions I go on.

[1039] Yeah, tell me about the cave dive.

[1040] So you want to learn about cave diving.

[1041] Okay.

[1042] So, first of all, cave diving is the last certification someone can get caving right in in diving like you start off to get your open water and you move and get your advanced over water get your your nitrox and you start you start learning the rules of mother nature because mother nature is never going to take a loss she wins every time the only bitch i know that wins 100 % of the time right you cannot you cannot fuck with her and come out winning so when she when she wants to take you she takes you so you learn about all these different rules of the water and of the nitrogen levels that you're taking into your body um anyway cave diving is about five years and i got my uh certification in high school and i am a super cave diver man i love it i love it i love i love diving i love everything about diving i love ship diving um so no days caves you name it i love it so we were in cosumel a couple weeks ago and uh one of my old you could almost call him instructor he's taught me a lot of what i know about diving today we uh dove three or four days with some buddies in mine that we're down and uh goes in mel just went through some ships went through some k are uh like uh it's the coral reef just playing around dying with them and then we go and do a serious dive he's he's getting a little bit older his mind is still very very very sharp but his motor skills don't keep up with them much anymore right and in in cave diving it uh it's very necessity that you need so we jump in this cave just rewind to 20 minutes i just kissed my girl and my new baby and she's like don't i don't really want you to go like right i don't he just i don't want to say his name but the guy you're going with like i'm worried i said what do you worry about him I said, I'm coming home.

[1043] This is what I come home every time.

[1044] I'm coming home.

[1045] Fuck, I don't know.

[1046] I don't know.

[1047] So I pick up another, I order another cylinder of air just for extra.

[1048] So I have two, originally I'm going with, order another cylinder of air.

[1049] Just, I told her just for, just to fucking have it, right?

[1050] No one's ever died because they have too much air.

[1051] In cave diving, you dive in third.

[1052] So if we have 300 PSI, we'll do 1 ,000 PSI in.

[1053] We'll do a thousand PSI out And we have a thousand PSI In case something fucking happens Also in cave diving They have lines You run these In a cave they'll already have a line run A bunch of guys like Metech divers Have gone into caves They discovered them They mapped them They named them And they put lines So you can follow them In case something happens right Get in and get out Lines and lines And none of the lines Really connect Except for like the main lines They'll have like three or four main lines down big channels of the cave because caves are huge right from an interest to the main line usually no one has a cave that you have to make it what's called a jump you have to make your own own line because they just don't want someone listening on here today to go find a cave jump in swim down and be able to get in and out and get lost in there and also we have a Thailand incident we're fucking wanting to say people so we make a jump tie off put these direction arrows down um they're called cookies right pointing out out towards the direction out of the cave.

[1054] So that way, if something happens, you come out.

[1055] When you make a jump, you take your light, you wrap it around your neck, and then you have two hands of work on the line.

[1056] The guy I was with didn't follow some of our rules.

[1057] And in cave diving, it's kind of an unwritten fact that you only worry about you.

[1058] I'm coming home, right?

[1059] I'm fucking staying alive.

[1060] So if Joe, me and I were cave diving, is something where to happen?

[1061] I'm not going in there to get you.

[1062] No reason for two of us to die when only one's in there can die.

[1063] So he tries to tie off.

[1064] He's poins.

[1065] He fucking hits the roof of the cave, kicks his feet, spins.

[1066] And now all of a sudden this line that's supposed to be tied off, which is our fucking lifeline, is now wrapped around him.

[1067] So I swim over to him and I try to help him unhook this line.

[1068] And he goes into panic.

[1069] And panic kills everybody involved.

[1070] Everybody involved dies with panicked.

[1071] panic, and that's something that I can't express enough.

[1072] So he starts fucking freaking out, hitting the roof, spinning, silt fucking everywhere, and I just back out.

[1073] Take about four or five big, strong steps back.

[1074] When I grab a hold of the main line, now it's silting out.

[1075] Now when I say something's silting out, there's all this, like, sediment that ends on the bottom of these caves.

[1076] And you're in, like, a little tiny room.

[1077] So if you kick your fin hard, it kicks up, like, dark, dust, mud, sediment, silt, you can't fucking see anything, blacks it out.

[1078] So I back out of the silt.

[1079] I grab the line, and I see him in there fucking freaking and panicking, spinning and rolling around and getting all caught up in this line.

[1080] And I'm like, fuck!

[1081] I just stay calm.

[1082] This was the exit.

[1083] I know where it is, because I know where I am.

[1084] There's the exit.

[1085] He was making a jump to go down another tunnel.

[1086] There he is.

[1087] Now, would I just tell you about the rule that, someone comes home, right?

[1088] I broke the rule and I went in to get him.

[1089] I said, fucking goddamn, so I let go of the line.

[1090] And I go in to get him because his light fucking is off now.

[1091] And I'm thinking, God damn, he spun up in this line, his lights off.

[1092] Did he drop his regulator?

[1093] Is he have air?

[1094] Is he okay?

[1095] Sooner I go into the silt, fucking lose everything, man. I lose my way where I am, my up, my down.

[1096] I don't know where I am.

[1097] I'm fucking panicking now.

[1098] I'm panicking.

[1099] Fucking freaking out more than any I've ever.

[1100] Breathing hard.

[1101] Bang.

[1102] Hit my head on the fucking ceiling.

[1103] And I just close my eyes.

[1104] I'm like, God damn it, calm it, calm the fuck down, calm the fuck down, calm the fuck down, breathe.

[1105] Can't even see my hands in front of me. I have two watches on.

[1106] They're glowing, right?

[1107] Those are my, to let me know my depth, my time, everything, right?

[1108] I have two dive computers.

[1109] I check them.

[1110] I look.

[1111] I calm.

[1112] I check my light.

[1113] I got to turn my light and turn my light and burn my, uh, our, um, pressure gauges.

[1114] They're glowing the dark, right?

[1115] So I charge it with my light and I look at, okay, air, check my second one.

[1116] Okay, air, I know my third one's good because I haven't even opened it yet.

[1117] That's just, just in case.

[1118] I breathe down and I fucking think and I can't even see my hands in front of me. And to this day, I close my eyes and it gives me nightmares right now, just thinking about it.

[1119] Cloudy, dark, can't see anything.

[1120] All I can see is the hum of my light.

[1121] So I turn my light off.

[1122] And I'm trying to think like, all right, just, just, just, Just calm yourself, figure this out.

[1123] Where's our partner?

[1124] I start feeling around and he's nowhere to be found, right?

[1125] Now where to be found.

[1126] So I'm now calm myself a little bit and I start feeling the walls.

[1127] And I start moving around.

[1128] I'm trying to think, where am I?

[1129] But I don't know because we haven't been down this channel yet.

[1130] So I don't visually haven't made an imprint of, oh, there's that, there's this, right?

[1131] Kind of like a mental imprint in my mind because that's what we're doing as we're coming in.

[1132] marks right i don't have any of those i don't have any feel i don't have any touch and i'm moving around moving around i took a compass reading of the direction of the front when we've tied off of the at the first jump right so i know 126 degrees is the way out but in a cave they twist and they move and they're up and they're big and they're deep and they're low right there's no like rhyme reason how the water made the cave so it's kind of a direction I can think of the first thing comes in my mind and I start swimming that way and I hit a wall boom and I go down and hit a wall and I'm fucking in panic mode again I fucking swim now I just start swimming and kicking and fucking going crazy I make my way out of the silt and I fucking turn around on I'm back on the main line right I find the main line to the cave again which is 800 yards to the front to the door and grab a hole of the main line I fucking reel it in again okay now the entire behind me deeper into the cave is free it's no problem silk free I can see everything's good where I need to go is fucking silted out and blown gone completely fucking wash I can't I couldn't see you sitting there but I can see everything behind us can't see you I have the main line but I don't have the jump line to get the fuck out so I started thinking I was looking the cave maps trying like before we went just try to get a vibralized of the direction I'm trying to remember landmarks but I can't see anything I can't feel and I'm like fuck there was a split up here so I start I go back into back into the silt again and I start feeling around and I'm feeling and I find a hole and I'm like is that the right way is that the one I want to go down where does that one go okay maybe remind remember remember that's that's not okay let's go to this one.

[1133] I'm going on the next one.

[1134] And now I said, this is, this is where it's got to be.

[1135] I'm going.

[1136] But all of a sudden, I'm swimming against the current.

[1137] And I remember when I came into this cave, there was this very slow current, which is why the entire cave is now washed out from that point on, right?

[1138] The current is taking out.

[1139] So I'm like, fuck, you're swimming against the current.

[1140] So you're going the wrong way.

[1141] So I'm like, fuck, you're swimming against the current.

[1142] So I'm back, I'm back on the fucking main line again.

[1143] I somehow worked that into my fucking panic mind.

[1144] Like, we're swimming into the current.

[1145] We're swimming in the current.

[1146] We're going the wrong way.

[1147] So I fucking turn, swim back.

[1148] I'm back on the fucking main line again.

[1149] right to find the main line it's clear i out into the clear main line fuck fuck i start like hyperventing and panicking and i'm thinking man i you fucking you piece of shit this is how people die what the fuck are you right and i'm keep reminding kissing my wife and keep my kids saying i'm coming home today i'm coming home coming home so i do it again i fucking venture into the fucking great unknown fucking abyss total blackout another panic another panic fucking freak out can't find me away hitting my head kicking losing air by the fucking second bro because now i'm breathing hard i'm breathing fucking irrational and i'm sucking my tanks dry right mind you i'm on air so i don't have there's no there's no answer to this after i breathe my last breath keep checking my thing keep keeping my time looking direction time time air time fuck slow down slow down slow down slow down now I'm in pitch fucking black can't see anything trying to figure out where I'm at what I'm thinking what am I doing okay we're running out of air how much time do we have Calby we're at 28 feet I know we're at 28 feet I can probably breathe on this for about another hour on this tank another hour so we've got another hour okay we've been in here fucking 38 minutes already how what are we going to do start trying to find my way out I can't trying to find my way out I can't now I start thinking what am I going to do I'm not going to drown Joe drowning is like my biggest fear of my life so everything that's called a BC and we carried on our back it's a buoyancy control device that's how you that's how you control your buoyancy when you're scuba diving right it probably holds 20 big huge strong breasts so I fill that motherfucker up this is my plan fill my BC up which throws me to the top of the cave bong right now I'm only now I got to flip upside down and I have like crawl on the ceiling trying to figure out where the fuck I am now I got to get out of a cave upside down and I'm thinking all right we switched to our last bit of air how are we going to do this cowboy what are we going to do we filled our bc up when I run out of air I'm now thinking in my mind how am I going to die joe right tell my wife tell my kid I'm not fucking I'm coming home now I got to fucking realize how am I going to die.

[1150] I have a notepad that you carry in your pocket to draw and write on.

[1151] I'm thinking, what, what, what are you going to say?

[1152] What's your, what's your letter going to be?

[1153] You're writing a fucking death letter.

[1154] You're awake.

[1155] You're a fighter.

[1156] We figure this out.

[1157] You don't fucking find a way to quit, you fucking bitch.

[1158] This is a conversation I'm having one of myself.

[1159] While I'm in fucking complete panic mode, complete darkness thinking that there's no, this is how people die.

[1160] What the fuck are you doing?

[1161] You're going to write a letter to your fucking kid and tell how you how you fucked up i'm sorry daddy's not coming home so i'm fucking thinking i'm not going to drown i'm not going to breathe my last breath so i'm going to breathe this bc that i just fill up with air and i'm going to fucking breathe it until the oxygen level no longer happens and i just pass out that's that's my that's what i've come to realize how i'm going to die i'm going to fucking just slip away and pass out keep breathing the same air until i go away and i start thinking you fucking piece of shit you're giving up you're having like legitimate conversations with myself while fucking in complete panic like you're going to quit that you're writing a letter and you're going to fucking breathe your last air until you pass out you fucking pussy you're a fighter figured the fuck out so I'm upside down I'm crawling on the ceiling and I remember when I came in came in the big cave and there's like a huge fucking crack that runs along the top turn both my watches off now at this point because they're giving off light I kill my light.

[1162] I said that crack's going to fucking lead to the surface.

[1163] That crack's going to fucking give us something.

[1164] So I just start panicking me, panicking you again because I'm panicking.

[1165] I don't know what to do.

[1166] I'm sucking air and I'm fucking breathing hard and I'm hyperventilating.

[1167] I'm crawling on the ceiling, crawling on the ceiling, looking for this fucking crack and God damn, but I found it.

[1168] I found the crack and I followed the crack and the crack got bigger.

[1169] And all of a sudden I see fucking glow like green glow.

[1170] Crawling, crawl on, crawl on, find it.

[1171] try to get up my tanks are too big i can't fucking get out of the little hole can't get out of the hole i'm fucking beak beak beak beak beak fucking hitting screaming freaking out calm down cowboy calm down cowby this is the way calm the fuck down reel it in reel it in we're here we made it grab control follow the cracks more opens up out boom there's the cave fucking i'm out made it you're coming home you want to talk about Wow, motherfucking war!

[1172] Right?

[1173] That was the feeling.

[1174] Meanwhile, my guy's out there.

[1175] I can't be mad at him because he panicked.

[1176] He grabbed the line.

[1177] He fucking ran out the hole.

[1178] He looks at me and he says, so we're not diving together again, are we?

[1179] I said, no. That was it.

[1180] That was it.

[1181] And I text my girl, I love you, baby.

[1182] And today was a fucking scary moment.

[1183] but daddy's coming home and it was fucking so crazy because that was I mean I've almost died numerous times but almost dying slowly which puts it in perspective to me like these guys on death row what I always thought like yeah fucking kill a murderer man that's fuck them dude knowing the time and how much time you have left that's some scary shit Joe knowing that you have two hours left how much air you have left At the end.

[1184] Maybe another hour, probably, an hour and some change.

[1185] But could you imagine I had to talk to myself how I was going to die?

[1186] Like, to me, that fucked me up.

[1187] That fucked me up really bad.

[1188] Like, I probably had to go do some mushrooms and ask myself some questions now because that fucked me up bad, but the inner me, the fighter, the youth do new fear at the fuck out.

[1189] But was I going to write a letter?

[1190] I was fucking damn close to writing a letter.

[1191] It was crazy, man. It was wild.

[1192] Damn.

[1193] Hopefully I explained that good for everybody.

[1194] You explained it like a motherfucker.

[1195] Yeah, I'm nervous.

[1196] I felt like I was there.

[1197] Fuck, dude.

[1198] That is crazy.

[1199] Yeah.

[1200] And I'm going to do it again.

[1201] Like, I'm not scared of it.

[1202] Like, that just needs to be done better.

[1203] I'll run my own motherfucking line.

[1204] Well, it also shows you how important it is.

[1205] like what your wife was saying.

[1206] You can't, you know, she, she knew something.

[1207] She had a sense.

[1208] Like, when people fuck up a lot or when they're just that person that just can't keep it together, you got to be real careful around those people.

[1209] Yeah.

[1210] Yeah.

[1211] Fucking crazy shit, man. I mean, that's why people kill those people in war.

[1212] Yeah.

[1213] You know, they're just like, look, we can't do this.

[1214] Yeah, we can't.

[1215] Everybody killed.

[1216] Yeah, your, your panic is sorry.

[1217] Yeah.

[1218] Yeah, you're not hanging in there.

[1219] You've become a detriment.

[1220] Fuck, dude, that is one of the craziest stories I've ever heard of my life.

[1221] I'm glad I got to share it with you.

[1222] It's fucking impressive.

[1223] Let's move on.

[1224] I don't know how we can.

[1225] I don't know how we can move on past that one, man. Fuck.

[1226] So as the tap out guys did for me, I'm starting a new fight series, Cowboy Fight Series, man, amateur.

[1227] And we're traveling all around the country.

[1228] and we're going to be putting shows and I'm going to try and find these new up -and -comer kids and bring them to the ranch.

[1229] What are you doing it on?

[1230] Well, I was talking with Antle's Fight Pass.

[1231] I think we're going to get it on UFC Fight Pass.

[1232] Nice.

[1233] And, yeah, we're going to have probably eight undercard fights, probably two local guys in that area, and then we're going to do a four -man tournament for the assigned weight class.

[1234] We'll probably go, I don't know, maybe like a 70 or 85, maybe 55 first.

[1235] And the winner of the four -man tournament gets to come live with me train, get brought up.

[1236] I know everybody, man. I can make a call and get them on all the local promotions.

[1237] You know what I mean?

[1238] Get them build these guys up and try and give back, man, and do like what the tap out guys did for me and just really, I don't know, show.

[1239] That's a great idea.

[1240] Do you think you're going to transition into promoting or managing or anything or training when you're done?

[1241] I won't do any training.

[1242] No?

[1243] No. I don't think when I round the corner in life, I ain't looking back, Joe.

[1244] When I finally made the corner, I'm looking back.

[1245] But I'll definitely help these dudes out, man. I'll figure it out, him, her, whatever it may be, you know.

[1246] You have no desire to train people.

[1247] People tell me I can teach very well.

[1248] I just don't agree.

[1249] I don't know.

[1250] Maybe it'll be something that would be more interesting to you when you're not competing.

[1251] Right.

[1252] You know, but I'm hoping I'm moving into the movies.

[1253] I don't be a movie star.

[1254] Yeah, well, that sounds like fun.

[1255] I just, yeah, I just did Equalizer, too, with Denzo, Washington.

[1256] It was a lot of fun.

[1257] I had a small partner, but I'm with the Dashnaw, Brand X guys, and doing a lot of stunts and having fun with that.

[1258] How's Denzel?

[1259] He's great.

[1260] Hmm.

[1261] Yeah.

[1262] Great dude.

[1263] You're great dude.

[1264] Never met him.

[1265] Yeah, he, uh, it was cool.

[1266] He was super cool to me, super nice.

[1267] Um, it was fun.

[1268] It's fun working.

[1269] You know, I worked on the movie with Jay Haran.

[1270] You know, Jay, he's in that too.

[1271] Yeah, he's in that too.

[1272] It's a cool.

[1273] He fight, Denzel is an Uber driver in it, and, uh, Jay fights him in a car.

[1274] It's pretty cool.

[1275] Denzel's one of the greatest actors that's ever lived.

[1276] Absolutely.

[1277] I agree with you.

[1278] 100%.

[1279] You go over like some of the greatest actors that's ever lived.

[1280] You've got to have him on that list.

[1281] Like you got a chance to work with one of the all -time greats.

[1282] And he's so, he's cool as a Cadillac out there, man. He's just, you know.

[1283] Is it weird to be working with him?

[1284] It kind of was, but he was real.

[1285] I mean, on set, watching Dendell and then Denzel on set is kind of different.

[1286] But he, you know, a lot of the, a lot of, there he is.

[1287] There's Jay.

[1288] Oh, man. That's cool, right?

[1289] It was fun, man. It was such a learning experience.

[1290] Anyway, I was here last week, and I met with Pete Berg, who's the director.

[1291] He just did that Mile 22.

[1292] Yeah.

[1293] And I just got on a new Mark Warburg movie.

[1294] So I got a smaller thing on that, but he asked me to do the fight choreographer for the whole movie.

[1295] So, wow.

[1296] Yeah, pumped on it, man. I'm excited.

[1297] Working with the guys doing that.

[1298] It should be fun.

[1299] So you enjoy it.

[1300] Love it.

[1301] It's cool.

[1302] It's just another avenue.

[1303] Yeah.

[1304] Just another, something fun to do.

[1305] No, that'd be a good transition for you.

[1306] You know, so that's kind of my plan.

[1307] But last night, over a game of Baccarat, I'm going to be a new race car driver.

[1308] How that happened?

[1309] My buddy, Ricky Stenhouse, Jr., has a dirt track race team.

[1310] So January, January, it's called the Chili Bowl.

[1311] Chili Bowl?

[1312] The Chili Bowl, 300, 300 entries.

[1313] And you take over five days.

[1314] you race and you work your way up to enter the Saturday night of the Chili Bowl and you get down there.

[1315] Do these are 400 horsepower cars you know and or excuse me they weigh 400 pounds man I don't know what it is I can't tell me I don't know I don't know anything about they're 400 pounds right they're 400 horsepower but they weigh 900 pounds really yeah and the dirt track that's insane do you have some video of chili bowl 400 horsepower 900 pounds is insane yeah and they just shit and get right and so yeah that's it I'm going to January I'm going to the chili bowl and I'm I'm fucking gonna give it hell wow how fun that sounds like a good time and I said so is there like a couple warm up days or practice or yeah here it is things look at this whoa a dirt there is oh my God that is insane So you're just going sideways everywhere.

[1316] Yeah, just drifting.

[1317] The whole thing is like halfway drifting.

[1318] Right?

[1319] It's just so it's just.

[1320] Look at all those people.

[1321] Oh my God.

[1322] Everyone's going completely sideways around these corners.

[1323] It's hilarious.

[1324] So in January, I told us to Oklahoma, that's going to be me. Wow.

[1325] Running it.

[1326] I can't wait.

[1327] It's going to be so fun.

[1328] Wow.

[1329] That looks a good time.

[1330] And I said, hey man, we like have, like I've, I want to tell you just because my ego, right, that I'm a good racer, but I don't really know if I am.

[1331] race and race goal cards if you want to go down to the local goal cart track we'll give it hell but I've ever done that never I'm so excited Are you gonna practice?

[1332] I said I said Is there some warm up or practice days and they said No you just You can get five laps before the race And I said That's not enough No no You need a couple hours Hours days A couple weeks You need someone to show you Like where do you In the apex of the term When do I jump on the gas So what So fast Fast forward until January, Cowboys are going to have five laps to fucking get it.

[1333] And then I'm on.

[1334] Is there a place you can go to practice?

[1335] I guess you can have to rent a track.

[1336] But I was at the monster thing last night.

[1337] So I was talking with all the drivers.

[1338] And they're like, no, we don't practice.

[1339] We just race.

[1340] We just race to race.

[1341] There's no practice.

[1342] And I was like, huh?

[1343] You don't, what?

[1344] You just race?

[1345] Okay.

[1346] So can I pick up one of these cars?

[1347] You all got a loaner I can get in there.

[1348] Yeah, we got to, man. You show up.

[1349] So Chili Bowl is kind of like, I guess there's 300 injuries.

[1350] It's over five days.

[1351] You just like get after it.

[1352] Jesus Christ.

[1353] Get weight.

[1354] I was so excited.

[1355] It seems like that would be a skill, though.

[1356] Like going sideways in the dirt like that?

[1357] You would have to learn how to...

[1358] A skill that I don't have.

[1359] No. And they're letting you race with pros.

[1360] Yeah.

[1361] That seems silly.

[1362] That seems like jumping into...

[1363] Seems like going to Jacksonville.

[1364] Right off the street.

[1365] Slapping on some shin pads.

[1366] That's exactly.

[1367] Exactly what fuck's happening.

[1368] That is so crazy.

[1369] So, yeah, all you motherfuckers in Tulsa, Oklahoma, in January, Chittlerball, cow is coming in hot.

[1370] Hot!

[1371] So then they tell me I got to pick a number.

[1372] I don't know what number to pick.

[1373] You get to pick a number, and you pick letters behind the number.

[1374] Wow.

[1375] So I need a good number, followed by BMF, because I definitely need that.

[1376] Right.

[1377] What would be a good number for you?

[1378] I don't know.

[1379] Would it be the year of your first pro fight?

[1380] would it be the year your grandparents bought you the ranch that's not a bad one you have to be weighed what year with that what's year is that i think 2011 11 bmf sounds pretty fucking good 11 bnf that sounds pretty good 11 bmf that sounds pretty good right yeah fuck yeah i'm gonna send you video so you'll be able to play it and you're like man that's not a bad one 11 bmf is good Liam 11 BMF Since it's the ranch, why not have it the birthday to the ranch?

[1381] Yeah, it's accurate.

[1382] You know?

[1383] There it is.

[1384] So for all you 300 entries, you see 11 on this motherfucker, I'm putting you in the wall.

[1385] Coming sideways around that corner with very little control.

[1386] Almost no control.

[1387] And if you think you want to see me down in the pits and come out, take your helmet off and get crazy, you're just going down.

[1388] What other shit?

[1389] are you doing that's ridiculous you probably shouldn't be doing mounted mounted shooting on a horse on a horse do you put earmuffs on the horse yes of course really yeah stuff them down in her ears wow yeah what kind of rifle you shooting colt 45 oh my god that's hilarious oh so you're two fist in it yeah yeah no no no so here's the rules you can't have more ammunition than the targets are on on the field right so there's 10 targets 10 targets, so we load five shots into each six shooter.

[1390] Wow.

[1391] Right?

[1392] And so you have to be a gun exchange while riding full speed shooting targets.

[1393] So you shoot one -handed while you hold it on with the other hand.

[1394] Yeah.

[1395] You never go wire up.

[1396] No, no, no. I'm a right -handed, so I run the reins on my left and I shoot with my right.

[1397] So.

[1398] Here it is right here.

[1399] This is it.

[1400] So on -hand is where you'd shoot on -hand.

[1401] Off -hand is when you put it over your arm.

[1402] So this is off -hand.

[1403] great.

[1404] This is some cowboys.

[1405] That's it right there.

[1406] Oh, look at this.

[1407] You run around and shoot balloons.

[1408] That is hilarious.

[1409] Right.

[1410] Who are these people in the stands that are letting you shoot near them?

[1411] These people have their fucking mind.

[1412] You want to talk about people with a death wish?

[1413] We're not shooting a bullet.

[1414] It's not live animation.

[1415] You're just shooting like blanks.

[1416] Oh, really?

[1417] Yeah, so just the gunpowders burn in the balloons.

[1418] Isn't it crazy that just the blanks can do that much goddamn damage?

[1419] There's a guy in Hollywood when I first came here in like 94 who was on a set and he didn't know that right and he thought it'd be funny to put a blank up to his head and shoot himself in the head yeah some people would shoot themselves shoot the horse i mean you shoot your horse doing it he's probably not gonna want to do it anymore yeah what the fuck man yeah they think that it's just a noise it's not just a noise so learning learning to getting your horse training getting around gunfire and and doing it's fun it's good time that's like they're practicing for some old school revivals yeah it's called SASS, Single Action Shooting Society.

[1420] Wild West fights.

[1421] It is.

[1422] And during the competitions and during the shows, it's like they take it back and everyone dresses up and...

[1423] That's hilarious.

[1424] Those are still to this day my all -time favorite movies, like the Unforgiven.

[1425] Westerns, come on.

[1426] Westerns are some of the greatest movies ever.

[1427] Ever.

[1428] I'm with you.

[1429] I love them.

[1430] I love them.

[1431] There's something about them.

[1432] It's like, that's a short period of United States history, but that's the period where people were like, fuck it.

[1433] Let's see.

[1434] Yeah.

[1435] Let's see what goes on over here.

[1436] Let's see.

[1437] crossed this divide the weak guy yeah he didn't make it did he that's one area if i if if there was a time machine he can go back and see what it was like what if you could only go once and stay there that was it it was a one ticket ride i ain't going no no no it's the best time to live ever they would all want to come here of course yeah why the fuck would i go back with no but you'd want to go to 3 ,000 me how do you know could be could no no hold on so now you say that but now How did the guy in 6 AD know that 2018 was going to suck that day?

[1438] Well, they would have to know.

[1439] They would have to know, like, we know.

[1440] Like, if we went back to 618, we're like, listen.

[1441] So what, you'd go give them a little, here's, this is a laptop, you opened up.

[1442] We have a thing called YouTube.

[1443] You get on it and you just search, and that's where we live.

[1444] So if you want to come there, I'll trade you?

[1445] They would trade in a heartbeat.

[1446] But if you, like, wanted to go to the future where everybody could read everybody's minds and no one had dicks anymore because we all reproduced through genetic engineering.

[1447] Yeah, if I lost that, it'd be over.

[1448] Yeah.

[1449] You lose the day.

[1450] It's like an orgasm button that's attached to this helmet that you carry around with you because there's no more oxygen on Earth.

[1451] And everybody's breathing some new gas that's way better.

[1452] Yeah.

[1453] I don't know, man. I think right now it's pretty fucking good.

[1454] I'm happy with today.

[1455] I like it.

[1456] So no, no error you'd go to.

[1457] Yeah.

[1458] No. If I could come back.

[1459] I'd go to like 1492, I think.

[1460] That'd be a good time.

[1461] See what it would be like when they landed?

[1462] Yeah, Columbus.

[1463] and I'd be a fucking wicked pirate.

[1464] I think I'd make a good pirate.

[1465] There are a lot of homoes, though.

[1466] Let's you know.

[1467] No homo.

[1468] Nothing wrong with that.

[1469] Pirates are gay.

[1470] A lot of pirates are gay.

[1471] I would be an un -gay.

[1472] Which makes sense because there's a dude's on a boat.

[1473] The un -gay pirate?

[1474] The un -gay pirate.

[1475] You'd better sleep with what I open.

[1476] Yeah, they'd come to me and I'd say, no, this crap and don't play that, homie.

[1477] Your iPads would be this high sleeping.

[1478] Yeah, no, no, no, no, no. I would bring.

[1479] Yeah, I mean, it makes sense, right?

[1480] With the scarfs and the crazy earrings, they're all gay.

[1481] Makes sense.

[1482] Spanguing each other.

[1483] That's what they were doing, man. That's a fact.

[1484] I'm not making that up.

[1485] Fair enough.

[1486] Yeah.

[1487] I think I'd go back to the Mongol days.

[1488] I'd like to see Ganga Khan.

[1489] I'd like to see just what that would look like when they would take over a city and kill a million people.

[1490] In rape and pillage?

[1491] Like, yeah, insane.

[1492] They didn't have any respect for anybody that didn't live in tents.

[1493] That's how gangster those people are.

[1494] They're like, you live in a house, you fucking bitch.

[1495] They didn't even treat you like you're a person.

[1496] I live in a tent with fire.

[1497] It's all they lived, felt tents everywhere.

[1498] Just took them everywhere, nomadic people.

[1499] So that would be your one stop.

[1500] I would like to see what that was like.

[1501] What if you could go back and then if you died, you would come back here.

[1502] So that would be, like, if you went to ganges, dry your samurai sword.

[1503] Yeah.

[1504] Yeah.

[1505] That would be a place where you could be pretty sure that you were going to die.

[1506] Would gangis open arms welcome you into the clan?

[1507] If I came back with an iPhone.

[1508] What would you be, yeah, for sure, or a lighter.

[1509] I got some shit to shut.

[1510] I'd have to tell him about Dan Carlin's Rath of the Con audio series Let's play it for him You'd get my phone You'd get my phone But there'd be no satellite tower So it would be no Right right right right I would have to have some recorded Preloaded on it now It was a preloaded shit Huh Some videos and movies and stuff And what would you wear Would you come in Just in case they got crazy Or would you show up in like 2018 thermal Optical lens glasses I mean like you're like Full Riot police Full right.

[1511] Yeah, with low, if I could bring anything, I would for sure be locked and loaded.

[1512] I want guns strapped to my hips, knives, fucking fully automatic.

[1513] So you show up with a gun to gang a con, you now become Gaming's Kong.

[1514] Oh, yeah.

[1515] I shoot him right in the dick immediately to take over.

[1516] All of a sudden, he's not worthy because you have fully automatic assault rifle.

[1517] Yeah, I climb on the roof and just start jacking.

[1518] Predator style.

[1519] The new sheriff in town.

[1520] Like, for sure.

[1521] And then I'll be reading about Rowan movie like that.

[1522] Wasn't that John Claude Van Dam, Time Cop?

[1523] Uh -huh.

[1524] Yeah.

[1525] Remember that shit?

[1526] They went back in time and he had a machine gun.

[1527] Someone did.

[1528] They went back in time and fucked people up and stole like Civil War gold.

[1529] Remember that?

[1530] But just like the movies say, I think if you fucked shit up.

[1531] Yeah, you ruin everything.

[1532] You might be in there just mowing people down with machine gun and then you would just vanish.

[1533] Right.

[1534] Maybe your mom doesn't exist.

[1535] You'd have to, right?

[1536] probably or now that you're in this time are you no longer in our time yeah the timeline changes because you're there now and you see this guy's got fucking machine guns check this shit out watch this is a pretty easy way to make money look at this city's got where are you from mister I'm from the future faggit so that would be you meeting gang is gone and would you learn a little bit of his language, you think?

[1537] Or you just try and go in there with your iPhone and Google Translate.

[1538] Yeah, that's working at the internet.

[1539] I think that the only way you would be able to communicate with them would have to learn his language.

[1540] For sure.

[1541] Yeah, that would be how hard would it be to learn do they even know how to say Mongol language anymore?

[1542] I don't think they even understand what the sounds were.

[1543] I think they're just guessing.

[1544] I don't think they...

[1545] So you don't must have to go back, grab one, bring him here.

[1546] Yeah, you'd have to have them teach you.

[1547] In -home teach you.

[1548] I don't know if they know how those people talk back then.

[1549] I think there's some real speculation.

[1550] Because you'd be so smart and know so much, but you couldn't communicate.

[1551] Right.

[1552] There's no, like, it's not like going to Mexico now where we kind of know, oh, Cerva.

[1553] Right, right, right.

[1554] Yeah.

[1555] Well, I think that's the same with the Mayans.

[1556] And that was only a thousand years ago.

[1557] We don't not, we don't totally know how they were talking.

[1558] There's a lot of, like, speculation.

[1559] They're still translating a lot of those ancient Mayan ruins and the Texan.

[1560] And in Cancun, that's where, like, Tulum.

[1561] Yeah.

[1562] When I went to Toulon, I went to Chichinichu, which is out three miles.

[1563] I went there once.

[1564] It's amazing.

[1565] How fuck did you take the tour?

[1566] Yeah, yeah.

[1567] We had a professor take us on a tour.

[1568] It's so amazing, right?

[1569] And they talk about all the rituals and all the, how they drink at the snow days.

[1570] And then they tell me that how they would cut their testicles.

[1571] And I was like, wait, what?

[1572] they're like yeah that's that's how the the shaman or the grand mass whatever the head religious guy i don't know what the nerd i'm an idiot when it comes to that but they knew through they're very smart right they knew it was astrology and they knew when eclipses and what were coming so he would wait for the eclipse to come knowing knowing that three minutes later it's going to just go ahead and pass but all the people that were with him had no idea they didn't know right.

[1573] They had no idea that it was going to stop.

[1574] They thought they had done something wrong.

[1575] The gods were punished them with darkness.

[1576] So when the darkness comes, he like cuts himself and offers his blood to the gods.

[1577] Moon, sun comes back out.

[1578] Dick blood, huh?

[1579] Tick, ball blood.

[1580] Ball blood.

[1581] That's a precious blood.

[1582] Precious blood.

[1583] And at that moment, I was like, so wait a minute, you were just tricking these people?

[1584] I haven't tricked my whole life.

[1585] I go to fucking church and I've been tricked my entire life like you just tell these people that don't know enough and you knew the real but you told them it wasn't wait a minute what's going on here I sat back and thought and I was like you probably had to do what you got to do to control those people back then goddamn savages yeah show them show them a little bald so what about today so what about today we got to be You got, you're not playing any fucking games.

[1586] Cut my balls.

[1587] Look, I'm controlling the sun.

[1588] Bam.

[1589] Covered it with the moon, bitch.

[1590] And now everyone's like, oh, my God, you bought light back.

[1591] Yeah, otherwise.

[1592] You know everything.

[1593] You have to.

[1594] And you have a machine gun.

[1595] Yeah, you got a machine gun, too.

[1596] Bitch.

[1597] But I only have 30 rounds, so you couldn't, you couldn't get up there and really, you couldn't really, I mean, unless you came armed up.

[1598] But how long would those bullets last you?

[1599] Because there's no way you're making a new bullet.

[1600] Yeah, everybody has to see it, too, because they're not going to believe.

[1601] You have to shoot everybody.

[1602] And if you brought a fucking machine gun back to the Mayans, what are the guns I'm playing what the day look like?

[1603] Yeah.

[1604] No kidding, right?

[1605] Yeah.

[1606] You'd fuck shit up.

[1607] Fuck shit up.

[1608] For thousands of years.

[1609] That's the thing about guns, though.

[1610] They get a little better over time.

[1611] But you can have a gun from 10 years ago, and it's state of the art. I believe those guns 10 years ago, 100 years ago, are built better than the shit ones today.

[1612] Than the shit ones.

[1613] Yeah, but they still make real good guns today, too.

[1614] sure but that's the thing the thing it's like it's weird the technology of guns is sort of in like you don't need it like with bows one of the things about compound bows is people a lot of people want to know the new models every year yeah because they get better sure but they don't really guns don't get that much better like a gun from 10 years ago is still a badass gun well like i have a bunch of henry rifles right the the henry rifle from nine from years all american made from years ago to the same gun they said now it's the same gun yeah yeah they nailed it got it got it yeah but yes i wonder how much innovation is how much room for it well until we start doing laser shit like different you know i mean they got they got they got a they got a reamp you know what drives me crazy about lasers like uh star wars type shit how come i could see them how come i could see them because there's clearly fog in the room you didn't see them moving too slow.

[1615] With the lightsaber, they hit the thing.

[1616] They're moving so slow.

[1617] Bullets are so much faster than lasers.

[1618] You see them, choo, choo, choo, choo, choo.

[1619] Maybe it's that long of a shot.

[1620] Maybe their bullet is that long.

[1621] I think a late, oh, like a flying lightsaber.

[1622] Yeah, like, juf, joof.

[1623] Oh, I never thought about that way.

[1624] You're sending big laser beam.

[1625] Right.

[1626] Okay.

[1627] Not only he hit you, but it just keeps going.

[1628] Right.

[1629] I didn't think about it that way.

[1630] Like, you're shooting like crossbow bolts of lasers.

[1631] of burning hot as a laser hot it's got to be right is it cold well there are cold lasers I had I had a bulging disc once and I went to this therapist they put cold laser on it I don't know but I like this idea and then she said come back three more times this week and we'll get you in they just kept doing it it wasn't yeah I don't think it really worked but but the cold bursts I think the laser burst if it was like that like flying lightsabers holy shit yes I think I think the bolts were just huge until you let off the trigger.

[1632] Still too slow.

[1633] See if you can find a scene from Star Wars One with a shooting at each other.

[1634] Those bitches, it's slower than an arrow.

[1635] Like, they're not moving that fast.

[1636] Like, if you try to watch an arrow coming from a compound bow, it's harder to follow.

[1637] So you couldn't catch it.

[1638] Yeah.

[1639] No chance.

[1640] No chance.

[1641] No chance.

[1642] No, 280 feet a second.

[1643] No chance.

[1644] You ain't catching shit.

[1645] But those bolts from those laser guns look slower.

[1646] than that.

[1647] And you're probably right, you wouldn't, the new, the new laser, you wouldn't, there's no way you'd see it.

[1648] You wouldn't see shit.

[1649] But that's just theatrical for a movie, as you see it coming.

[1650] But it just makes me feel like they think I'm an asshole.

[1651] So when you, when you take this time travel.

[1652] So if you could go forward or back, you would go back?

[1653] 100%.

[1654] I would too.

[1655] Yeah.

[1656] I would too.

[1657] Well, I'm a human.

[1658] I don't think there's a good future for humans.

[1659] I think we're going to be something different.

[1660] So you think if you shoot forward, you might be the only one in there.

[1661] Yeah, there might be no more people.

[1662] Everybody's an Android.

[1663] And now you're in a cage, getting pro.

[1664] Oh, for sure.

[1665] They're going to test you.

[1666] I can't believe we found one of these.

[1667] What?

[1668] It's like if they found a Tasmanian tiger or something like that, like, holy fuck, lock it up.

[1669] You can see the video of the last Tasmanian tiger?

[1670] Jamie, see if you can find a video of the last Tasmanian tiger.

[1671] It died in a zoo.

[1672] I want to say in like 1930.

[1673] What's interesting is they think they're still alive.

[1674] But Australia is so big.

[1675] Australia is as big as the United States.

[1676] There it is.

[1677] That's a Tasmanian tiger.

[1678] That was the last...

[1679] What, just butt stripes?

[1680] It's a marsupial predator.

[1681] It's the last, like, real mammal predator or marsupial predator that lived in Australia.

[1682] That's what it was like.

[1683] It was like a crazy dog -looking thing.

[1684] But they've found...

[1685] Look at the mouth open picture of it.

[1686] Look at that fucking mouth on that thing.

[1687] That is crazy.

[1688] But there are people that are real reasonable people that believe that there's still a few of those that exist in a while.

[1689] There's been enough sightings of these things.

[1690] that they think that uh what is the actual name of that thing it's got a crazy name thysylene right how does it spell t h y C -A -L -I -N -E thylacine whatever it is that would be us being one of those fucking cages the last person just wandering around looking around stupid all the robots are all so if you could bring one person would you bring a best friend or would you bring a female counter got to bring a chick bro got to do right got to You got it.

[1691] Yeah.

[1692] Yeah, you got him.

[1693] I'm with you.

[1694] Because you want to bring your friend, like, bro.

[1695] Look, I love to hang out with you, but, you know, you know how this turns out.

[1696] I don't want to be the last guy in a cave in China.

[1697] Yeah.

[1698] With out some pussy.

[1699] No. No. No. Yeah.

[1700] That would be, yeah.

[1701] Yeah.

[1702] But if I was a pirate, then I guess it would be okay.

[1703] What was the gay cowboy movie?

[1704] What was that movie?

[1705] Broke back.

[1706] Yeah, we ain't going there.

[1707] No, we ain't going there.

[1708] We are not.

[1709] That's going there.

[1710] A little too intense, bro.

[1711] This fears that shall not be conquered.

[1712] No disrespect to the gay friends out there listening.

[1713] Cheers to you.

[1714] Cheers to you.

[1715] I would definitely go in the past.

[1716] Just to see what it was like in ancient Egypt or ancient Rome.

[1717] I mean, I just got back from Italy.

[1718] Right.

[1719] And we were, we checked out Pompeii.

[1720] Of course.

[1721] You know, and you're wandering around.

[1722] where all these people died almost instantly from volcanic ash, 20 feet high.

[1723] And you see how they saw like they're, right, they chipped away and you can see the...

[1724] Mm -hmm, yeah.

[1725] There's one where they found recently where a dude got hit in the head by a flying boulder.

[1726] You just see his skeleton and a giant rock where his head would be.

[1727] It's a way to go.

[1728] Yeah, I mean, you're like, ah, nothing.

[1729] Doom, done.

[1730] Blackness, DMT World.

[1731] DMT.

[1732] Is that where we go, you think?

[1733] Maybe.

[1734] There it is.

[1735] Look at that.

[1736] Isn't that crazy?

[1737] No, not kind of got him.

[1738] Oh.

[1739] Got him.

[1740] Look at that article.

[1741] It says, fuck Pompey.

[1742] But fuck this man in particular.

[1743] Man, got him.

[1744] Whoever wrote that?

[1745] That's hilarious.

[1746] Anything that was blowing from the mountain?

[1747] Yep.

[1748] Big chunks of rock that got spewed out of this volcano.

[1749] Wow.

[1750] Yeah.

[1751] The whole thing is crazy.

[1752] Like when you're wandering around Pompeii and just realize.

[1753] Look, he looks like he's face forward.

[1754] You got hitting a mug.

[1755] Right, like he saw it like, oh, right, yeah, he got, yeah, it's true.

[1756] I didn't even think of that.

[1757] He didn't, he wasn't running.

[1758] Oh, look at that one, man. That is fucked.

[1759] Is that just volcanic ash mummification?

[1760] Just preserved for volcanic ash.

[1761] Look at his teeth.

[1762] That is insane.

[1763] And it's spooky.

[1764] I'm deaf.

[1765] This guy is coming on my next trip for sure.

[1766] He's going to show up.

[1767] Yeah, he's going to show up.

[1768] Yeah.

[1769] Yeah.

[1770] Fuck, man, that is the way to go.

[1771] Volcanoes, man. Yeah, I have a friend who goes to the big island every year for Thanksgiving, and I'm like, you're going back?

[1772] He's like, fuck yeah.

[1773] I'm like, you're crazy.

[1774] You're going back.

[1775] That thing's on fire.

[1776] What if it splits in half and sprays out?

[1777] Like, it's taken over.

[1778] Then the gods, we made the gods mad.

[1779] Pele.

[1780] Pele's pissed.

[1781] Pished.

[1782] Well, what area did you, do you think you go to the Wild West?

[1783] Where do you think you would go?

[1784] Well, I was, I, I rounded towards pirates, but then you super really whipped shopped me back.

[1785] So, yeah, we'd probably be, how about Lewis and Clark if you could go on a Lewis and Clark expedition?

[1786] How wild would that be?

[1787] Make your way across the unknown.

[1788] No one knew what the fuck was out there.

[1789] What the fuck?

[1790] Just taking a chance, trying to walk across the United States.

[1791] I mean, that's, that's almost the same era.

[1792] I wanted to go when Columbus was trying to like, you know what, let's just sail across.

[1793] crosses flat earth yeah they knew and now we're back to flat yeah oh some people we discovered it wasn't flat and now we're back to flat and i have this arguing people i said while doing the pilot school that i'm in like you have to keep adjusting for the curvature of the earth no no no it's not real it's not real no the world's flat as flat as flat like that tv it's just a lack of education it's it's an interesting thing too because it's it shows you how distracted people are.

[1794] But they want to argue about something that's already been figured out.

[1795] And the videos and the literature that people come up with for these, it's insane.

[1796] Like, if you Google Fat Earth, by the time the video, by the time it's done, you're like, God damn, it might be flat.

[1797] And they're going to put this in a video.

[1798] Cowboy realizes the earth is flat.

[1799] He had a lot of good points there.

[1800] Yeah, if he's not sitting across from Neil deGrasse Tyson Because if he was, Neil deGrasse Tyson would be like, hold on Hold on, that's not how it works Hold on, that's wrong, hold on, this is why we know that's incorrect See, I don't have the knowledge to be able to check people like that I just go - You have to constantly readjust for the curvature of the earth Yeah, I know that, but when you listen to someone That's my one fact and then and the rest of that they're like, and then and then I'm like Huh The crazy one's the water Yeah, they're like water you know water doesn't stay on a curve uh yes it does yes does it does gravity it's called the oceans yeah and and if gravity's not real where the fuck do you think waves come from bitch dude and what do they they say there's a glacier all around holding yes yeah the 700 foot wall there's an ice wall around the outside edge and then the government protects the ice wall why why why would they why okay this is just me i'm i'm nobody i'm just joe blow reading an article why would nass and the government spend millions, billions, trillions, right, to protect the fact that it's around Earth when it's flat.

[1801] To me, I would say, oh, we live on a flat earth.

[1802] This is where it gets even stupider.

[1803] Because they think that they're trying to protect us from the truth or shield the truth from us that we live in an incredible special environment.

[1804] We live in the firmament that's protected by a dome.

[1805] The creator is real.

[1806] and that all the elite powers want to keep this information from you.

[1807] It's basically people that don't have an education that are failures that use all their energy misplaced to make these videos that don't make any sense.

[1808] They've figured it out.

[1809] They make sense to me. I'm the dummy that watch you're like, oh.

[1810] It's because anyone making a video where no one's interrupting you, no one's telling you you're incorrect.

[1811] You're allowed to just continue to watch saying bullshit things over and over and over again unchecked.

[1812] And so if you listen to it, then they use big words, and they sound smooth, they have, and they have, you know, degrees behind them and charts.

[1813] Yeah, grass.

[1814] And I'm like, clearly the picture shows ice wall.

[1815] They definitely don't have degrees.

[1816] There ain't nobody with a degree out there that's telling you there's an ice wall.

[1817] I don't know, man. You can get some pretty shoddy degrees lately.

[1818] Well, there was an article recently about schizophrenia, and I think anybody that thinks is really in the Iitz wall and they have a degree, they should probably go to a doctor.

[1819] They're probably on some sort of medication and something's wrong.

[1820] There's some sort of a, the levels are off.

[1821] For sure.

[1822] If you really think there's an ice wall around a plate, the earth's shaped like a plate.

[1823] So are they just pumping, they're just pumping oxygen in or our natural habitat creates it?

[1824] Do they believe that?

[1825] That's a good question.

[1826] They don't believe in gravity.

[1827] So I don't know what they believe in.

[1828] They think.

[1829] And what happens when we send rockets into, it hits the dome.

[1830] Those are all fake, bro.

[1831] Rockets are fake.

[1832] You know what else is fake?

[1833] Dinosaurs.

[1834] No. They don't believe in dinosaurs.

[1835] But you want to know it's really funny?

[1836] Do you show me, Jamie?

[1837] Australia is fake too.

[1838] We just saw the mummy from the volcanic.

[1839] Yeah.

[1840] Right?

[1841] Is he fake?

[1842] He's real.

[1843] It might be fake.

[1844] I don't even know.

[1845] We just looked at a picture on Google.

[1846] We really didn't investigate that.

[1847] If it's all the internet is real.

[1848] The dude who got hit in the head with the rock is real as fuck.

[1849] Real as fuck.

[1850] So the dinosaur that got hit by a rock, he's fake?

[1851] Could be.

[1852] I wasn't there.

[1853] 65 million years ago is a long time.

[1854] Yeah, especially when the Earth's only 6 ,000 years old.

[1855] They have one thing on their side, and this is the one thing on their side.

[1856] This is one of the reasons why they make this argument.

[1857] It's because when dinosaur bones were first discovered, when they were first discovered, there was a whole race to find dinosaur bones, and there was a lot of fuckery.

[1858] There was a bunch of people that were faking things and piecing things together that didn't work and hiding bones and saying they found them.

[1859] They were just trying to make a name for themselves.

[1860] But that's just greedy human nature in the face of an actual real discovery that's very valuable.

[1861] And that discovery was that they're dinosaurs, that there was a gigantic breed of lizards that roamed the Earth millions of years ago.

[1862] Yeah.

[1863] And so all that's just propaganda.

[1864] So you're saying in Colorado, on the side of the mountain by red rocks, they have a whole closed off section where they're just doing excavations.

[1865] Yeah.

[1866] And huge giant feet print in the rock.

[1867] that you can go up and touch a different, probably four or five different species of badass lizards?

[1868] My friend John, he knows a dude who owns a ranch in Montana, and they found a T -Rex on this guy's ranch.

[1869] They pulled a T -Rex out of this guy's ranch.

[1870] They found it in the ground, and they gave him a fuckload of money for it.

[1871] It was like, if they find some sort of discovery like that, that's worth a million dollars.

[1872] It has to be.

[1873] Yeah, it has to be.

[1874] But that's fake?

[1875] He buried that?

[1876] No, it's real as fuck.

[1877] That's what I'm saying.

[1878] They found this one thing that was poking.

[1879] up and he brought in these geologists, what would they be?

[1880] Did I would sell all but a tooth?

[1881] You tell me you wouldn't have a T -Rex tooth hanging on a necklace?

[1882] Fuck, yeah, I'd keep one tooth.

[1883] One tooth.

[1884] What is the person who searches for dinosaur bones?

[1885] Like, you have a bear tooth hanging?

[1886] I have a fucking T -Rex tooth.

[1887] Is it an archaeologist?

[1888] Right, but I was thinking archaeology being human history.

[1889] No, archaeology is what your wife pays.

[1890] That's what they do because they're always digging up old shit.

[1891] Oh, that's so true Yes, so true They come at you a ship Years ago, like, come on Get her a whip Yeah, paleontologists Yeah, so they called in a paleontologist The paleontologist started cleaning off Whatever this was And then he's like, holy fuck He's like, this is a goddamn T -Rex Apparently it's like a lot of it You know, sometimes it's like You only find a couple of them They found a lot of shit I would like to see that man If I could Go back one of them Jurassic Parks So now we're going back I'd like to see that too Now we're going all the way back Yeah that's that's Colorado right there That is fucking insane Insane So what the fuck That is insane Yeah Do you know how much time that would take To falsify that I think they'd go in there with So you got to brainwash Five people And tell them what we're going to do is we're going to chip this rock out because we've got to fucking fake a bunch of people.

[1892] Have you seen this in person?

[1893] Yeah, I've been there.

[1894] Walk, all that you crawl all over it.

[1895] You can walk on it?

[1896] You can walk on it?

[1897] Well, see that little gate right there if you back out a little bit?

[1898] Yeah.

[1899] That's just a little gate.

[1900] There it is right there.

[1901] The little girl standing out.

[1902] That's crazy, man. I mean, that's right there in Colorado.

[1903] Wow.

[1904] Right by Red Rocks.

[1905] Yeah, exactly.

[1906] It's right there.

[1907] It's hard to book a gig in, Red Rocks, man. They're booked up to like 2021, 22.

[1908] You're going to do a live show?

[1909] I was trying to do a gig in Red Rock.

[1910] Fucking epic.

[1911] I was trying, but I can only get like Tuesday nights.

[1912] Tuesday nights up until like...

[1913] You know what Tuesday nights is better than?

[1914] You know what Tuesday night's better than?

[1915] Never.

[1916] No night.

[1917] Yeah.

[1918] Fucking awesome.

[1919] I'm going to need a couple tickets to that.

[1920] I'll hook it up.

[1921] We need a couple tickets.

[1922] So the people don't believe their earth is flat.

[1923] They believe the earth is flat, not round.

[1924] They don't believe in dinosaurs.

[1925] They don't believe in nuclear weapons either.

[1926] Wow.

[1927] That's the other one.

[1928] Nuclear weapons are a hoax.

[1929] Hoax.

[1930] Yeah, only a few people don't believe Australia is a hoax.

[1931] And a lot of people say that's disinformation.

[1932] It discredit the flat earth movement.

[1933] They were saying their planes fly upside down and shit, and that's all upside down.

[1934] Where are the Australians coming from?

[1935] Because Kyle Noakes in Australia right now, I could probably call him.

[1936] He's probably a government agent, bro.

[1937] He should be careful.

[1938] Shit.

[1939] Any phone call you make to him is just going straight to the Illuminati.

[1940] No, damn, I'll call it, Kyle.

[1941] Are you going on a shit?

[1942] Yeah, bro.

[1943] Yeah, you got to be real careful.

[1944] Yeah.

[1945] What does he do?

[1946] Is he retired now?

[1947] He's coming back.

[1948] He's trying to come back.

[1949] Really?

[1950] Well, the problem is he didn't fight his UFC career out.

[1951] Oh.

[1952] When he retired.

[1953] So they still have him under contract.

[1954] Under contract.

[1955] How many more fights?

[1956] Don't know.

[1957] I didn't get into that way.

[1958] So he wanted to retire and fight somewhere else.

[1959] I think he just wanted to retire, but now he's got the itch again because the it comes.

[1960] So he's like, yeah, fuck it.

[1961] I'll come back through maybe whatever.

[1962] and they're like, no, you come back with us or you don't come back at all.

[1963] Contracts.

[1964] Legal agreements.

[1965] Hmm.

[1966] Chicky, where are we live in?

[1967] And I figure if he was a government agent, he could sweep that under the rug, right?

[1968] Yeah, but then it would be too obvious.

[1969] It's part of the cover.

[1970] Part of the cover is he got him locked in the contract, so he becomes one of the regular working man. He is a working man. They can say to you, damn, stop here in this goddamn contract.

[1971] And you're like, you're one of us, Kyle.

[1972] Meanwhile, he's wearing a wire.

[1973] Damn.

[1974] Well, damn you, Kyle, is the Earth flat, Kyle?

[1975] It's definitely not.

[1976] The water, the water?

[1977] Does that they say water?

[1978] World anti -doping agency?

[1979] No, the Australian.

[1980] The water, mate.

[1981] No, let's water.

[1982] The water's upside down, Mike.

[1983] Your mom.

[1984] Your mom.

[1985] Yeah.

[1986] Yeah.

[1987] They're a different breed of human over there.

[1988] God.

[1989] They just, they, they, they, they, evolved for hundreds of years.

[1990] Because they're prisoners.

[1991] Yeah.

[1992] We just, what a great idea.

[1993] Bring them to the best place on earth.

[1994] And drop them.

[1995] See you.

[1996] But the stupidest things are like, yes.

[1997] Wait.

[1998] I don't have the, I'm not getting to death.

[1999] Oh, you just dropped me on a super badass island.

[2000] That's bigger than the one you're on.

[2001] Bigger than when you're on.

[2002] Way better weather.

[2003] Way better weather.

[2004] Gorgeous.

[2005] And then they dropped all these prisoners off and they started like crazy hierarchy.

[2006] And the one.

[2007] ones that didn't really make it just went into the bush.

[2008] Yeah.

[2009] And they're still there today.

[2010] And then there's the Aborigines who were already there.

[2011] And then on top of that, hot chicks.

[2012] I don't know what they did.

[2013] They grow them hot out there in Australia.

[2014] Something about the prisoner genes.

[2015] The wild prisoner genetics.

[2016] Something about that wild fucking criminal genes.

[2017] Well, most of the wild criminal dreams are the crazy alpha male guys, man. The guys that are like the weaker 2018 liberals are saying, you can't do that.

[2018] Yeah, there's a lot of control going on today.

[2019] You can't do that.

[2020] So you're going to Australia.

[2021] Yeah, you used the word faggot.

[2022] You used to do faggot.

[2023] Damn.

[2024] That's one of the last words.

[2025] So have you ever told you my, I got in trouble with the UFC for saying faggot?

[2026] I'm not allowed to say it anymore.

[2027] But you already just did.

[2028] I know.

[2029] We didn't call somebody.

[2030] it you're just making the noise yeah this is this is like a this is like a shell we're in a bubble okay so they it's Vegas I'm drinking all night they have me do this show at 8 a .m. on Sunday morning to reflect the fight it was me and um a CM punk and I'm reflecting the fight that DC had with Anderson Silva who I respect appreciate great dude I didn't like the way DC he fought that fight.

[2031] So when somebody asked you about it, I said, man, he went out there like a fucking faggot and held him, you know.

[2032] He didn't fight to win.

[2033] Right.

[2034] Well, that was completely out of context.

[2035] I didn't mean that.

[2036] Like, I didn't mean, like, he was a homosexual.

[2037] I just say faggot like, like, you're a bitch, like you're a punk.

[2038] So I have to explain myself.

[2039] UFC makes me put on this a rainbow shirt and tell him I apologize.

[2040] They put on a rainbow shirt?

[2041] Rainbow.

[2042] Oh.

[2043] Oh, rainbow.

[2044] They made you put on a rainbow?

[2045] Manbochure?

[2046] The PR team and apologize and you know, because I have, that seems homophobic in and of itself.

[2047] I have, I have all the, all the, the gay activist rights coming after me now.

[2048] They're wanting money.

[2049] How strange is that?

[2050] They want money from me because I offended.

[2051] Donate.

[2052] I have to donate.

[2053] You should donate.

[2054] I did have to donate.

[2055] I did donate.

[2056] So anyways, I tried to get on and explain myself.

[2057] I said, man, I didn't call him a faggot like a faggot.

[2058] I called him a faggot like a bitch.

[2059] And that backfired big time.

[2060] Yeah, and I, I mean, that's just how I talk.

[2061] If I called you a punk bitch faggot, that's just me. That's just what I say.

[2062] I don't mean it in any other way other than that.

[2063] But the thing is, here's the thing, right?

[2064] I don't mean any.

[2065] Homophobia is bad, right?

[2066] But our words, are words bad?

[2067] Like, what if you feel the same way.

[2068] Like, is it a real issue?

[2069] I'm sick beer and I have to pee so bad.

[2070] Go ahead.

[2071] Go ahead, pee.

[2072] You got to pick your beer.

[2073] all right yeah i'm i'm three in all right take a break good luck i think all words are dependent upon the context and your intent like what do you what do you mean if you say to someone like come on bitch like and they're your friend that it's fun but if you say to someone come on bitch and then you hate them those exact same words are taking on a totally different meaning and that's the same thing with every word except the n word the end word the end word it's like it's so toxic you can't even use it joking around and you definitely can't use it the way you could say almost any other word so like I had a bit that I was trying out for a while but I had abandoned it where I was like the N words one word that you can't even call yourself like you can't even say God I'm such an N word because people get fucking mad at you you can't even say it but if you're but here's the catch if you're a black guy you could toss that shit around like a beach ball at a concert and it's fine and if you're a black girl you could use it as well although a little more sparingly please right they can't use it the same amount black girls like tend to use it just a little bit more leniently but they could do whatever they want with that word it's one of the more fascinating words i think in huge human history in terms of like it's it's it's impact what it means and how it can ruin your career like didn't that one congressman have to resign because uh sasha barren cohen had him yelling out the n -word right what was he it's just because of that but that probably was on the list of things what was he a rep what did he do was he a representative in georgia maybe speaking of future what is up with that commode you got in there the thing does everything yeah does everything my god she's hot water up your asshole it's warm when you sit down it's wonderful heated yeah you would fit in great with the pirates if you said guys just trying to be clean bro come come try my commode out give you a little hot a shower you're not homophobic guy I know you're not but it's it's one of those things where if you say it I guess if you're a gay person and you hear someone say it you'd be really upset like they're being homophobic the problem is like the word bitch is not good enough in certain situations and they're trying to get that one too Remember W. Camel Bell wouldn't say, he says he doesn't say bitch anymore.

[2074] I'm like, all right, dude.

[2075] You're self -censoring, limiting language.

[2076] I did this podcast with Wolfman.

[2077] I'm serious, and he tells me that he, and I'm not a homophobic at all, I just caught me off guard.

[2078] I didn't know how to take it when he told me that he experiments.

[2079] He didn't kind of know if he, like, boys or girls.

[2080] And I was like.

[2081] Oh, Jason Ellis?

[2082] Oh, okay.

[2083] And I was like, what?

[2084] Like, you don't know what you like?

[2085] You think, yeah, I've been to a couple parties, you know, and I'd just go both ways, and we just have groups of people, and sometimes it'd be groups of guys, and I was just scratch my head and like, huh, okay.

[2086] I didn't know how to, I didn't know how to take that.

[2087] Right.

[2088] If you don't expect it.

[2089] And I've known him for years, years.

[2090] And he dropped this ball on me, and I was like, man. I don't I didn't know how to take it it was just it caught me off guard it was weird right he's like what do you think you think like I like girls but I also like or I thought I like guys what I wanted to say and what I said were two different things you know it's like what you want to say man um no offense but man you put a dick in your mouth and you are a faggot you know but this so now you change the meaning of it again I understand that I wanted to say That's what you wanted to say?

[2091] The inner me was wanting to say.

[2092] And I just looked at him like, fuck.

[2093] I didn't, what?

[2094] Like, I was just so blown back by it.

[2095] But why is that shocking if people are definitely gay?

[2096] It's not.

[2097] Right.

[2098] It's shocking because you didn't expect it.

[2099] I didn't expect it.

[2100] Right.

[2101] But it's not shocking that someone's gay.

[2102] It's like, there's a lot of gay people.

[2103] There's nothing wrong with it.

[2104] I don't care at all.

[2105] Nor do I. But when you don't expect someone to be gay and then you're like, whoa.

[2106] Because then you thought that he was like you.

[2107] Like you and I, we're just a couple of straight guys hanging out.

[2108] But meanwhile, he was not.

[2109] He is, the one thing that is odd with me with people that say things like that is that they go, sometimes, sometimes I like guys, sometimes I like girls.

[2110] Like, I couldn't imagine what would that, that would be like.

[2111] Like, you're not sure.

[2112] You're not sure for me. Like, what do you mean?

[2113] Sometimes you don't know.

[2114] Sometimes you're straight.

[2115] Sometimes you're not.

[2116] like joe no matter what every time i go to bascar robins i get vanilla like that's what i'm going you know you know rocky road sometimes i you know i'll dabble in there but i'm if you brought me back vanilla you know i'm gonna like that you know it's not like well as long as i go there sometimes i like yeah right i mean there's people that look they're just wire different there's nothing wrong with it as long as it's not trying to fuck you but why would that be a problem all of a sudden It would be a problem if you don't want to fuck him.

[2117] True.

[2118] If he's coming on to me. That makes you realize what it's like to be a girl in the most insignificant in ways.

[2119] Because with a girl, it's obviously more dangerous because guys are bigger than you and they can actually hold you down and fuck you.

[2120] But when you're around gay guys, I used to work out of the gay gym when I was doing news radio.

[2121] I worked at Gold's Gym and Cole.

[2122] And I used to describe it out.

[2123] I was a tasty little morsel and a big gay stew.

[2124] It was the closest gym to the studio.

[2125] It's a great gym.

[2126] But it was filled with aggressive gay guys that had like those.

[2127] Aggressive.

[2128] They had those scrunchy socks like fucking, they were in a music video from the 1980s.

[2129] Like they were flash dance socks.

[2130] These guys like Timberlands and stuff and like super tan and roided up and just hitting on each other left and right with leather vests on.

[2131] I mean, it was crazy.

[2132] It was such a crazy scene.

[2133] And when you go there, you realize that these guys are like leering at you.

[2134] They're not looking at you like a guy.

[2135] What's up, man?

[2136] How you doing?

[2137] You know, using the triceps?

[2138] You know, no, it wasn't that.

[2139] They'd be looking at you if you walked into an all -female lesbian super smoke show gym.

[2140] That's how you'd be looking at all of them.

[2141] Like, oh.

[2142] Yeah, but I guess.

[2143] What do you mean you guess?

[2144] Because all lesbian gym, they probably look like Tom Arnold.

[2145] In my fantasy that I'm in, they're all like super hot fitness models.

[2146] like in there working out, hit each other with pillows.

[2147] If they were legit lesbians, they'd be like, what the fuck are you looking at?

[2148] Then if you go out of the same, then you would be the perpetrator.

[2149] Yeah, you'd be feeling like the guys look at you and you're like, what the fuck you're looking at?

[2150] Yeah, I mean, the real thing is, I feel like gay and straight people, everybody can get along fine, as long as everyone's on the same page.

[2151] Right.

[2152] And as long as they're not trying to fuck you if you don't want it and you're not trying to fuck them if they don't want it.

[2153] Like, if you're not trying to fuck these lesbians, because you respect the fact they only like girls, that's all great.

[2154] And the gay guys aren't trying to fuck you.

[2155] But the thing is, you can't tell by looking at someone.

[2156] Can we get mad at the double standard, though?

[2157] You're saying, hey, these gay guys, they say sometimes, what about these girls?

[2158] They're like, well, I sometimes like girls.

[2159] And sometimes I like guys and girls.

[2160] And then you're listening, they're like, yeah, that sounds like a pretty good idea.

[2161] It does sound like a good idea.

[2162] And I think we should shut the fuck up about that.

[2163] Otherwise, they're going to get insecure.

[2164] They've got to stop that practice.

[2165] Let them keep going.

[2166] Have a good time.

[2167] But all of a sudden, but guys, I'm like, guys, I'm like, girls, hey, Joe, you want to come on the guide trip?

[2168] Exactly.

[2169] We're hypocrites.

[2170] No, I don't.

[2171] I don't.

[2172] We're hypocrites.

[2173] Yeah.

[2174] But there's something about guy, for straight guys, the idea of a guy fucking you or making you suck his dick is the most horrific thing.

[2175] It'd be right next to the cave diving experience for me. the nightmares would be but but i have no zero ill will towards them and i don't have any problem with them in any way in society in any way shape or form i'm not even remotely homophobic i like gay people sure but there's a reality that gay dudes are dudes and dudes are kind of gross and they will try to fuck you you know and that's the one thing i had a friend of mine who is a he was a wardrobe guy and he was a gay guy and he was always telling me about these straight dudes that he would he would lure him in and turn him and get him suck his dick he's hilarious my wrestling goes tell stories about that about college how the gay guys would fuck the football players and I'm like wait the big bad football college guys are getting what yeah he didn't same same thing yeah that's there's they love it they love the turn this like just like a guy would love to turn a lesbian love that would be a mission wouldn't it yeah i used to have a joke about that that guys believe in gay guys like i believe in gay guys but i don't really believe in lesbians i think they think they're lesbians that's just because they ain't got a hold of this week they ain't they got me i turn it's how every guy looks at a lesbian like yeah yeah i know she thinks she's a lesbian let me fuck her a couple times be nice to her we're like i can eat pussy way better than another girl i don't know what they're doing The kind of endurance.

[2176] There's no way.

[2177] And I brought the dick.

[2178] You don't know what I'm like not.

[2179] Not only did I eat your pussy and the da -da -da -da.

[2180] And I brought the dick.

[2181] And I brought the dick.

[2182] So men don't necessarily totally believe in lesbians.

[2183] But they 100 % believe in gay dudes.

[2184] Then why why don't butch girls act more like super?

[2185] I mean, they do.

[2186] They cut their hair and they work.

[2187] Some of them do.

[2188] But the gay guys.

[2189] all got the snap and the press I know they don't though there's some fucking like beefy bodybuilder gay dudes that look like straight guys yeah you can't tell yeah do they slap your ass in the gym tell you good sign whoa no I don't need a spot kind sir you stop right there it's like you should be a way to tell like they have different markings you know different kinds of birds like oh that's a female it's female bird See those extra feathers But what if it's a transgender now Now now you don't know what What if it's wearing female feathers But who That's an odd one right Because that's one that like We didn't think about weird kids You have children So how do you feel about If your little girl has to go To the bathroom But there's a guy, girl In there Well Like what draws the line I would hope That either way Like if you're a son is going into the bathroom.

[2190] There's some pedophile child molester that prays on boys and he has to be a guy and he's in that bathroom.

[2191] It has nothing to do with your sexual orientation that has to do with you being a predator and a piece of shit.

[2192] Sure.

[2193] What that could happen for straight people just as easily as it happened for gay people, just zes that happen for trans people.

[2194] It's someone who's willing to prey on smaller people that are vulnerable.

[2195] I wasn't even going to pedic.

[2196] But you know what I'm saying?

[2197] There's a lot of like trans people that would be more than happy to be really friendly to your daughter and you can use the girl's room and it wouldn't be an issue at all.

[2198] She pulls out a wiener and peas.

[2199] That could be an issue.

[2200] And your daughter's like, and your daughter's like, what in the hell?

[2201] Dad.

[2202] Yeah.

[2203] Right.

[2204] But what if you had a girl who became a transgender girl and she's big tits, but she wanted to keep her dick.

[2205] Yeah.

[2206] And where does she go?

[2207] She's wearing a skirt, high heels, right now, today.

[2208] Where should go?

[2209] Which bathroom shoes?

[2210] I don't know.

[2211] I want to say she's got She's got the equipment Right She's got the equipment Full equipment Full equipment For the male For the male But she has tits Like here's a perfect example Go to Bailey Jay's Twitter page I'm just saying that I think that would worry She feels like a woman But she was born a man Yeah but she has a dick But she's as close Bailey J is my favorite example I hope she doesn't mind me using her because she's a transgender girl that is as much a girl as you could possibly get while still having a dick like see look at that's it right that confused the fuck out of you right yeah like hey what's going on here now go to the media her media page they kill her no she's alive no do they do they like no no no i mean message she pulls her dick out this is the thing like she's got a giant dick so she's got these big tits that And then, hey, there you go.

[2212] Oh, man. Yeah, so where does she pee?

[2213] You know, I'm cool with her going to the girls' room.

[2214] And what?

[2215] Yeah.

[2216] I mean, just, she's going to probably squat.

[2217] It's not like she's going to stand there with her pants down, just hosing the wall, letting everybody know.

[2218] So, do you feel, I mean, if she went into the men's room, that would cause more of a conflict?

[2219] Oh, yeah.

[2220] Yeah.

[2221] Yeah.

[2222] Could you imagine?

[2223] Could you imagine something like that?

[2224] So for her safety, you're saying let her go into the female.

[2225] Yeah.

[2226] Yeah.

[2227] Not just for a safety, but just like who she identifies with.

[2228] Look, it's a weird thing, right?

[2229] Because a trans person is.

[2230] Do you go into the family room?

[2231] Do you go into the family bathroom in between?

[2232] That's probably the, yeah.

[2233] That's the safe bag.

[2234] It's ironic.

[2235] She's not going to make a family with what theirs going on.

[2236] That's so confusing.

[2237] That is so confusing.

[2238] How does that happen?

[2239] You're pregnant.

[2240] Yeah, I mean, it's.

[2241] Not yet, but maybe in our microwave, yeah, our microwave machines, you can also change your gender.

[2242] Change your gender.

[2243] That would be a way.

[2244] where transgender people would probably be the most happy, where they didn't have to, like, hormonally become a woman and through surgery and throw up, but instead, they just actually turn you into a woman.

[2245] Bam.

[2246] Done.

[2247] Done.

[2248] Oh, you want to be a girl being?

[2249] And maybe go back.

[2250] Well, if that's the kid, yeah, if you could go there and back, where do I sign up?

[2251] Yeah.

[2252] Yeah.

[2253] Because I'm going.

[2254] I'm going to go check this out.

[2255] See what it's like for a couple days.

[2256] Yeah, a week, go to Vegas.

[2257] Yeah.

[2258] let a couple dudes bang you now that's another that's weird now it's weird now it's weird again because you still have that memory when you back yeah I can't erase this I can't even tell my friends like dude I went to Vegas they got still taste it loud yeah it's always in the back of your throat yeah so yeah that would have to be a don't be a giant issue yuck Yuck.

[2259] So, yeah, you say you would try it, but then you had to have the memory of trying it.

[2260] Yeah, you'd have to have the memory.

[2261] But you could maybe pass that you were a girl.

[2262] Maybe, but what if a guy's trying to fuck you, you'd be like, hey, no, dude.

[2263] No. No. But he's like, but you're a girl.

[2264] Would you do a random or would you think you'd do a friend of yours that you'd.

[2265] Like, would you give any bravo calling any, I heard.

[2266] I hurts and shit.

[2267] Let's go.

[2268] Not only would I do a random, I would wear a mask, like, fucking eyes wide shut.

[2269] I'd be like, that's the way to go.

[2270] No, no, because you as a girl, you wouldn't look like you as a girl.

[2271] Right.

[2272] When you'd be like hotter.

[2273] Hotter, way attractive.

[2274] I'd have curly hair.

[2275] Yeah, because goddamn, imagine, imagine if you zapped over to the female and you were just.

[2276] Right, precious.

[2277] Yeah, you're the other precious.

[2278] They're like, oh, you want this?

[2279] Here you go.

[2280] That would be a problem.

[2281] That would be a real problem.

[2282] Yeah.

[2283] Yeah Fuck yeah So they made you wear a rainbow shirt Yeah rainbow shirt Isn't it funny I had a bit about that too About how gay people took over the rainbow I'm like it's theirs The rainbow used to be in leprechauns Pots of Gold Nope not anymore Not anymore They took that shit over They own it I don't fully understand I'm sure Someone will comment on your You paid YouTube change here And tell you why That They just took it over Why they took it over Why the rainbow well it's just beautiful everybody can fit along it's beautiful colors they're flamboyant they're like a lot of colors put all those colors together like yay everyone's getting along but all of them flamboyant no can you say all no there's bears right there has to be yeah yeah because some of the guys still like yeah did you hunt guys shit guy shit butt fuck yeah fine nothing wrong with that but the words is what kills Yeah, that F word.

[2284] Don't say it, don't say it, Donald Seroni.

[2285] Donald Serrano, you had, please, please make a donation here.

[2286] It's one of those words that as growing up as kids, it didn't really mean a gay person.

[2287] Like Louis C .K. had a whole bit about it.

[2288] That it didn't mean, but we're supposed to evolve our vocabulary.

[2289] Yeah, if I call you a faggot, I don't mean it like that.

[2290] I just mean, you don't mean this is a gay person.

[2291] You know, I call you a bitch.

[2292] I don't mean you're a female dog.

[2293] I just mean you're, it's just, it's the same word.

[2294] It's like, bitch is like level one, but faggot is like the, gold level yeah yeah it's like listen we're not playing around I'm playing you said it you right it really it's like cunt if I call a girl at the guys didn't hear like you fucking cunt bro that's I went there I went to the end Defcon 5 yeah but if we're in London or we're in the nomads land Australia and they just say oh you fucking cheeky cunt yeah you know they think it's funny cut cut cut it's the word they use yeah so I guess because they use It all, I mean, I don't know.

[2295] I just, words or words.

[2296] Yeah, words or words.

[2297] But it's the, you know, if they're ineffective, you know, and also.

[2298] But they hurt so bad.

[2299] Yeah, some of them do.

[2300] You can, you can kill with, I mean, dude.

[2301] Especially if there's some reality to it.

[2302] That's the thing.

[2303] Like, I promise today we're going to get some good ones.

[2304] There's going to be some.

[2305] Yeah, but you can't read those.

[2306] I'm going to read them.

[2307] Are you?

[2308] Why waste your time?

[2309] Right next to them.

[2310] You're such a big, you live in your life.

[2311] You're just this big character.

[2312] Why pay.

[2313] I love I love living the life I wish more people would get out there and live life Joe Yeah Yeah I get so much shit for the like I can't believe you're not training you're out living And I said man I look at my life like I'm retired right now Like why do I want to do all this cool shit when I'm 50 And I can't I can do it now Right In my prime Well also when people are young They do whatever they want to do And then it's like When you get old You're supposed to become more serious Sure I remember when you decided to try to be more serious for a while Yeah And it fucked you up Fucked me up.

[2314] It wasn't the way to go.

[2315] It limited your expression.

[2316] Yeah.

[2317] That's a good way to throw it in.

[2318] Yeah.

[2319] Because I think I love doing on this wild living life.

[2320] It's part of who you are is having fun.

[2321] It's like, if I got here and you're like, Cowboy, change the plans.

[2322] We're not doing the podcast.

[2323] We're going to skydiving.

[2324] And I'm like, are you speaking to my heart?

[2325] We're going to do a podcast from skydiving.

[2326] From skydiving.

[2327] So tell me about Winkle John.

[2328] He happened with Mike Perry.

[2329] Why did they make you wear a rainbow shirt?

[2330] Why a rainbow?

[2331] What is it saying on it?

[2332] I would have 30 seconds.

[2333] It would be a very short podcast.

[2334] Well, the UFC has to do damage control on savages, which is hilarious.

[2335] They have a bunch of people like you and Mike Perry and, you know, fill in the blank.

[2336] All these savages running around saying crazy shit.

[2337] You go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[2338] Do you ever go to Derek Lewis's Instagram page?

[2339] Yeah, I love it.

[2340] That's goddamn Instagram page online.

[2341] I love it.

[2342] Where does he get the videos?

[2343] I don't know, man. He's got all of them.

[2344] All of them.

[2345] What is it?

[2346] Is it the Beast MMA?

[2347] What is his?

[2348] Plugging.

[2349] Yeah.

[2350] Beast, shout out to Derek Lewis.

[2351] Derek Lewis is fighting Volkan.

[2352] He's fighting that giant Russian dude.

[2353] Tell him, Derek, let's not do the same.

[2354] I know your back was hurt.

[2355] I know your back was hurt the last fight.

[2356] But that was the craziest fight I've ever seen in my life.

[2357] throw more than five punches this fight it's almost like he was waiting yeah Alexander Volkov the Beast UFC the beast got it yeah he's got the most hilarious Instagram page and anytime there's anything fucked up that there's a video it's on his on his he's on it all day that is so bad you see the guy shit it is shit watch and dork it's just so crazy that he puts all these in there where do you car accidents he gets all of them this is one that he like real recently within the last couple weeks of this guy standing on the side of the highway what does the girl with the boobs yeah sure you click on that what's happening here just they're somehow another the nipples aren't showing that's amazing maybe they're a little higher incredible control she don't taped on those nipples are in the wrong place the nipples are there should be there should be some areola hanging out yeah he's got no ariola she's an alien that's barely a person Do you think aliens have beautiful girls, or are they beautiful alien girls?

[2358] I think they gave up on pussy.

[2359] This is what I think.

[2360] Stop it.

[2361] Stop it.

[2362] If you think your life is bad, these are Siamese brother.

[2363] One is gay, and they just got one ass.

[2364] Oh, my God.

[2365] Are they really gay Siamese guys?

[2366] Oh, my God.

[2367] Did you hear it that you just said, if you think your life is bad, one is gay and they have one ass.

[2368] Oh, man. Those guys kissing one of them.

[2369] That's the...

[2370] Is that real?

[2371] That's the gentle part.

[2372] Yeah.

[2373] The kissing.

[2374] I don't even want to know if that's real.

[2375] He has one ass part is what clears into the rest.

[2376] Scroll down if you can see the accident.

[2377] If you go, there's a highway video.

[2378] So this is fake.

[2379] Yeah, right there.

[2380] The jumping from outer space is...

[2381] Oh, no, that's not it.

[2382] That's fake.

[2383] I haven't seen that one.

[2384] I haven't seen the jumping from outer space one.

[2385] But there's one where a guy standing on the side of the highway, right next to a black SUV, and someone plows into the SUV at full blast, and someone else flies.

[2386] out of the back of the SUV flies into the air lands on their feet and starts walking.

[2387] Come on.

[2388] It's fucking crazy.

[2389] He posts so many.

[2390] How far back was it?

[2391] No, did they pull it?

[2392] Where's he at with the rattlesnake?

[2393] What's the date of that?

[2394] What is the rattlesnake one happening?

[2395] Oh, yeah.

[2396] He probably got it pulled.

[2397] His shit gets pulled.

[2398] Does it get pulled?

[2399] I guess.

[2400] People find out about it.

[2401] What do you mean you haven't seen the outer space jump?

[2402] I haven't seen it.

[2403] That ain't it.

[2404] Whoa.

[2405] He crashes, has to crash.

[2406] Someone does.

[2407] Yeah, I love it.

[2408] I love pushing the little, uh, a little last button on the Instagram, watching all the crazy videos.

[2409] Like, you just get on a tangent and go.

[2410] There's so many now.

[2411] It's like so much fucked up there.

[2412] Is this one?

[2413] No, this isn't the same one.

[2414] He's got so many of these, man. Oh, Jesus.

[2415] What is this, a high -speed chase?

[2416] Oh.

[2417] Jesus, I'm going to wait for it.

[2418] Oh, boy.

[2419] I'm waiting for it.

[2420] It's probably one of those videos that loop.

[2421] Oh, here it is.

[2422] Right here.

[2423] A boom.

[2424] Tree.

[2425] Oh, Jesus.

[2426] That one wasn't as good.

[2427] Yeah.

[2428] The one where the guy flies out naked and starts walking on the highway is amazing.

[2429] God.

[2430] Maybe that's it.

[2431] Hold on.

[2432] Go back right there.

[2433] What is that one?

[2434] It looks like a bear standing up.

[2435] Go back.

[2436] How would that one be?

[2437] is a cat no hold on go back to it real quick that's a cat a Roomba oh okay imagine being as smooth as this cat watch this the Roomba comes near him touches them it's like oh no no no no no no no he's just used to the Roomba that's all that is oh yeah that's what it is right he's like wow bitch out turn and she better she better give the pussy for that better right they're ready to fight that looks like the fight or the cat fight jesus cowboy it's already 3 30 what was that mean time flew by god we just did three hours welcome motherfuckers that was awesome yeah hopefully they uh hopefully people don't get mad at you for you use of uh the f word the equal use we shared we shared that I used it only in reference to time cop.

[2438] The guys with the guy.

[2439] It's one of those things, man. We're limiting expression in strange ways today.

[2440] Yeah.

[2441] You know, and people, half of it is as much about people getting mad at you and wanting to be able to censor you or to get control of you or to be angry at you or to shut you down or get you fire to get you to put that rainbow shirt on.

[2442] Yeah.

[2443] It's like half of it.

[2444] well what are you going to do what are you going to do we're going to wait two years and we're going to get more stories we're going to come back yeah so this Mike Perry fight is when November 10 November 10th that's in Denver too right Denver Colorado why don't I hear some crazy rumor but you're thinking about moving back to Denver no I'm just moving my family up there there's not really left for them in New Mexico I'm not there with Jackson I'm buying a house and Denver move Oh you are going to buy a house Yeah I move the wife and the kid up there and have them just fly back to the ranch and train BMF ranch ain't going nowhere it's stuck unless the cold leader wants to hit me up buy it other than not it's just there would you rather live in Denver like most of the time if I had my roots not been set right right had I just gotten blindsided no Denver's amazing it's a it's one of the best mixes of like country city yeah beautiful scenery but it has every like a dentist My mom, my grandma, they're all there, you know.

[2445] The people are very cool.

[2446] Yeah.

[2447] It's a very cool city.

[2448] One of my all -time favorite places to go.

[2449] I agree.

[2450] It's one of my favorite places to go.

[2451] All right.

[2452] Shout out to all the gay people.

[2453] Hope nobody was offended.

[2454] Shout out to everybody else, bisexuals, trans people with big dicks.

[2455] Feel free to use that bathroom.

[2456] Just leave those kids alone.

[2457] Shout out to everybody out there just trying to be a good person.

[2458] Shout out to everybody distributing that plant.

[2459] medicine.

[2460] That's it.

[2461] The earth's grown.

[2462] Shout out to Paul Stamitts.

[2463] That's it.

[2464] Dennis McKenna.

[2465] All you people.

[2466] Shout out to young Jamie.

[2467] Hey.

[2468] How about that?

[2469] All right.

[2470] Well, listen, brother.

[2471] I'm glad we do this, man. Thank you.

[2472] I love you.

[2473] I'm too, man. Donald Cowboy, Soroni, ladies and gentlemen, we'll be back soon.

[2474] Bye.