#54 - Eddie Bravo

[0] smile on your face three with her ID every picture has her ID you could get fucking busted Are we going right now?

[1] Yeah we are a lot What are you talking about?

[2] Child pornography Dude we're live Eddie Bravo How dare you That shit would stand up Eddie Bravo How dare you bring up shit We were talking about Off the air Okay I'm sorry And start the fucking Podcasts off with that It's my cousin anyway Ladies and gentlemen Thank you for tuning In to the podcast We are sponsored as always by the Flashlight.

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[7] And this is a fat boy slim mix.

[8] Yes, Fat Boy Summer Mix, 2010.

[9] You know what I love that the song that guy did that weapons of destruction?

[10] You know, is that what it's called?

[11] Yes.

[12] Yeah, the one with...

[13] Christopher, no, Christopher Walkin did the video and was dancing.

[14] That's a fucking.

[15] badass video.

[16] Dude, all his videos or all his music's pretty good.

[17] I've really, never really got into him, but that one really grabbed me. Our guest, as always, my buddy, Mr. Esty, Eddie Bravo of 10th Planet Jujidavu of, you can go to Twitter .com slash Eddie Bravo.

[18] And where else can I get your shit?

[19] You still have a MySpace page up with all your music, right?

[20] Yeah.

[21] You're going to move that to another site?

[22] Eventually, man, I'm like behind on every fucking thing, man. I got to put out the mastery.

[23] the Twister DVD I'm so behind on everything so um like musicians are still using MySpace some of them right because it's convenient right yeah it's got that music player that you could see your uh your views or your hits that's pretty important to music that's super important if you have thousands of hits on one of your songs people are going to go oh shit let me check that out if there's four hits people are just going to bypass it right and when you embed a video, you can't embed it with the number of hits in it.

[24] It can't show.

[25] That must be something new.

[26] I don't know about that.

[27] No, no, no. I mean, if you embed like a YouTube clip, all you see is the window.

[28] You don't see how many videos or how many people have watched this video.

[29] No, but that would be a good feature, I think, but no one goes on MySpace anymore.

[30] You know, I'm always on my website, 10th planetjj .com.

[31] I'm on that motherfucker like, you know, like Joe on Twitter and shit.

[32] All day.

[33] okay so if they want to see your music though my music they could still go to myspace dot com slash the twister those are all old videos and shit you know like they're like three four years now old so but they're still badass Brian Reichel what are you doing over there buddy just fine tweaking the audio fine tweaking fine Brian has become quite a podcast mogul he's been broadcasting not just this podcast but the unfortunate Brody Stevens project Yeah, that was, did you watch any of that?

[34] Yeah, you did.

[35] A little bit of it.

[36] What was your...

[37] Keep it going and call it that.

[38] The unfortunate Brody Stevens project.

[39] Call it that, right?

[40] He looks like he's going crazy.

[41] Yeah, then that way he's allowed to get crazy.

[42] I just think I need a taser, though.

[43] You know, I think if we do that, I need a taser.

[44] Well, it's a character, you know.

[45] It's like, I think it works great for stand -up comedy, but I think for a podcast.

[46] I don't know.

[47] Yeah, it was hard, because I felt bad the last episode he brought his roommate on again, and he screamed at his roommate the whole time to the point where his roommate I saw look like close to him and his cheek was twitching because he was so upset and then I went outside because I was freaking out I went outside and he comes running outside and goes like in the middle of an interview he just took off and Brody was just left there on the couch going ah well you know I don't know what he was doing but the guy's like I can't take this anymore I don't know what to do I can't take this anymore and like he was like he just got raped that's what that's what the conversation was and that's when I came to the conclusion that what happened is is that they act together him, Brody Stevens in his roommate, act together like if a couple were to break up and they had to live together for like three months.

[48] You know, like that anger.

[49] Oh, that's the kind of attention they have.

[50] Yeah.

[51] And it's, I don't know, man. It freaked me out.

[52] That's some real fucking anger too, man. You ever been around someone when they're breaking up, but they still haven't moved out yet?

[53] And then the chick starts seeing another dude.

[54] Then they have complications or the guy starts seeing another chick.

[55] Woo!

[56] Fuck that shit.

[57] Yeah.

[58] No, no, that would never happen.

[59] I would never put myself through that.

[60] I mean, you'd have to be a brokster and understand, or some kind of, I don't know what's going on with the lease or something.

[61] Maybe there's like a lease problem.

[62] They're both on the lease.

[63] Some people just love drama.

[64] Fuck that.

[65] They can never figure it out.

[66] They can never figure out how to be cool to each other.

[67] From the moment of the relationship, but just a, it's an eventual explosion.

[68] It's like how fucked up does it have to get before it all falls before?

[69] The only way I could understand a situation like that is, girl breaks up with boy.

[70] Boy is begging for girl back.

[71] girl goes, you know what, we're not getting back together, but I'm fucking staying here for two more months because I paid the rent.

[72] And boys like, fuck it, stay.

[73] It's like it's going to give them more time to maybe change your mind.

[74] You know what I'm saying?

[75] Yeah, yeah, I could kind of see that.

[76] When I broke up, I lived with a chick a long time ago.

[77] The first chick I ever lived with, very nice girl, but we were both kids.

[78] You know, I was 21.

[79] She was 20.

[80] We were both retarded, right?

[81] And when I lived with her and we broke up, there was a period of time for like two weeks we were still together and she was still like staying in my house but we were not together anymore we had broken up so she had started dating other dudes and I'd started dating other chicks and you know she would be cool with it and then like she would tell me about dudes and I wouldn't get jealous but I would tell her about a chick and she'd get mad at me Within two weeks she's already telling you about you're 20 years old man 20 years old you're retarded you don't know what the fuck's going on Were you in love with her?

[82] No I mean probably not no no no definitely not because I didn't freak out when she left although I did like try to get her back and I came off like a huge faggot I don't know if you've ever done that before like when you get devastated by a chick and then you try to figure out a way to bring her back it's almost like an ego thing really it's like the relationship was boring Did she break up with you?

[83] Yeah yeah yeah she broke up again Okay that hurts Now how long were you guys living together before Not that long man It did not last very long It was a disaster six months Maybe something like that That's not even You can get deep in six months Yeah maybe not even I don't even think it was six months she was a nice kid we were just young and stupid but she started banging other dudes and I started banging other chicks and it was real weird because we were living together and every now and then like she would get horny and I'd fuck her anyway it was very strange it was like retard retard relationship shit like the shit you do when you're 21 usually generally when someone breaks up the girl generally for most people the girl can has so much more power than the guy the girl can bang 10 dudes that day they broke up like the guy might that yeah the guy might not be able to get laid for a couple weeks right he hasn't been in the game for a while unless the reason why they're breaking up is because the guy found someone new already that's true that's true back in boston man where lived it was way harder to meet people this is not the same place man people are not nearly as friendly it's not nearly as easy to go out and meet people like in a bar club or whatever it's a fucking grind it's not easy yeah and everyone's in jackets you really don't know what the fuck you're getting.

[84] You don't know what you're getting, man. You get a look at girls' jeans.

[85] How vacuum sealed are these fucking things.

[86] Even in clubs.

[87] Even in clubs, you really can't tell.

[88] Some girls can cover their fucked up shit with the dresses.

[89] You get them naked, you're like, whoa, fuck.

[90] Plus, they confuse you with glow sticks and shit, you know?

[91] Like you go out to a club, they got glow sticks, they got glue, they got fake eyelashes.

[92] You're drunk, it's dark, and they got so much fucking makeup on and they're covering their shit up strategically they know how to cover them rolls up how crazy is the idea of don't wear a nightclub how crazy crazy is the idea of a nightclub you go to a place it's a designated meeting area where everybody goes that supposedly is single and wants to fuck you know it's like can you get it that's the big question can you meet can you meet somebody are you compatible do you get it but we're going to provide you with music so you get to move around and grind against each other we're going to give you drinks so you make shitty decisions.

[93] We're going to set you up in a place where it's probably going to be people that are selling drugs.

[94] If we're going to do something more fucked up, it's all together in one big spot, and we stay open until 2 o 'clock in the morning.

[95] That's one place I never pick up chicks at, though.

[96] I never pick up chicks at the dance clip, because if I'm dancing, I'm acting a fool.

[97] I'm not like taking it serious to like breaking it down.

[98] You know what?

[99] I was totally the opposite.

[100] Like, for me, I swear.

[101] For me, when I was like 21, 22, the way I would make moves on a chick is I would find the best dancer and then dance with her.

[102] And I always felt like I could just, I could get them with the dancing.

[103] Do you watch Clee?

[104] Do you watch Clee?

[105] Huh?

[106] Did you like learn?

[107] Had a dance?

[108] Man, I was dancing before my, I could even walk.

[109] My aunts would just hold me out because my aunt two aunts that were a couple years older than me. And they were just hold me up.

[110] And everyone, we would be dancing like fucking fools all the time.

[111] Do you still dance once in a while?

[112] I went to school dances.

[113] I was always dancing, huh?

[114] Do you still dance once in a while?

[115] If I'm out of club and they're playing some good shit, you know, some good fittis scent or something, some new ludicrous or something.

[116] I'll be dancing.

[117] It's got to be good, though.

[118] Oh, shit.

[119] Shut those shit off.

[120] That's wake the fuck up.

[121] No, you know what that is?

[122] That's an alarm.

[123] Call your business manager.

[124] Check on your funds.

[125] Like, every day it goes off.

[126] Keep that shit going every day.

[127] But I usually ignore it.

[128] So it's like a wake -up reminder to...

[129] You check your fucking money, dude.

[130] Slow down.

[131] What do you spend?

[132] Spending too much money?

[133] I don't keep track of it.

[134] That's my problem.

[135] Now, when you get a business manager, I don't have to keep...

[136] I'd like, you know, I always envied you, man. How many years did we know each other?

[137] And you had a business manager, and I had to handle all my shit, do all my taxes.

[138] You never worried about shit.

[139] Since I've known you, you just have a credit card and you don't worry about shit.

[140] I remember a couple times you told me, go, man, I could have $2 million in the bank.

[141] All right.

[142] I didn't want to disclose that.

[143] So, anyway.

[144] Do you like comic books?

[145] Do you grow up liking comics?

[146] comic books um no i never read comic books man i wasn't into it i was uh i hated i hated superheroes man i wasn't into him i was spider man for halloween and it's so weird playing the role of like a superhero at a uh a party like uh i went to this huge party and i was dressed up as spider man and i realized when i had to walk around the party i was walking around the party like i was spider man like i wasn't just like i didn't do it on purpose i just what it was so good's wrong i was i was really stoned in it i don't know It's weird, man. So you're really still, you thought you were Spider -Rater?

[147] Well, I just caught myself walking different.

[148] This is the same dude, by the way, that said that he doesn't like certain video games because now when he sees buildings, he wants to jump from one building to the other because he's played this in games.

[149] He actually thinks that.

[150] He could go do that.

[151] No, no, no. You know what?

[152] You're getting lost in the character.

[153] Which is totally cool, man. I was talking about, I played so much of this particular video game in a short amount of time, like, all day long, that it got to the point where I was driving and I just kind of space out and think, like, oh, look, a building, I could jump on there.

[154] I could see that.

[155] You know what I mean?

[156] Yeah, you're thinking of retarded shit.

[157] You never usually want to talk about, but you're thinking about that shit.

[158] Right.

[159] Like, man, like, I'm actually thinking about the fucking video game.

[160] Jumping around.

[161] Just because you played it.

[162] How many hours straight do you play it?

[163] At that time, I played it for, like, all day long.

[164] I'd wake up, play it, go to bed, you know.

[165] That's ridiculous.

[166] Yeah, for like a month, though.

[167] That was the only time I ever became addicted to it.

[168] People do that.

[169] My little nephew, that's his problem right now.

[170] They've got to take away that fucking game controller.

[171] because he plays all fucking days fucking up his grades and all that shit and my sister's like we only let him have that video game on weekends and they take the controllers and they fucking hide him he goes looking forward he breaks into the fucking room so all they really need to do is have like a video game controller like dealer at school right you have your little side one you plug in how easy is that I'm real lucky that I didn't have video games when I was a kid I mean we had like stupid like the ones on TV that you'd play like I forget what they were.

[172] But they weren't, you know, I think Mike Tyson's punch out.

[173] I think we had that.

[174] I think that was like when I was around high school.

[175] I had Atari, the old Space Invaders.

[176] Yeah, that was it.

[177] That was all I had.

[178] That wasn't that addictive.

[179] I mean, it was okay, but there's nothing like Call a Duty or.

[180] Dude, it was amazing back then.

[181] Space Invaders at your house?

[182] It was amazing.

[183] Like, fuck.

[184] Yeah, but I'm talking about the sheer addiction value of it.

[185] It's not even close to the video games today.

[186] No. People are having real problems with their kids starving.

[187] It's like a regular basis because they're not feeding their kids because they get lost in these massive multiplayer world games.

[188] Yeah, really World of Warcraft games, man. It substitutes these people's lives.

[189] Like the Sims and there's Farmdale girl just beat her kid to death because the kid was crying and was interrupting her Farmville game.

[190] Yeah, it's fucked up.

[191] You know that new Call of Duty game that came out last night, modern ops or whatever, I don't even know what the name of it is.

[192] I just saw that it's in 3D.

[193] It's one of the first video games to like release, to be made, to bleep.

[194] Played on a 3D TV.

[195] So you know that 3D we saw the other day at BISBai.

[196] Holy shit.

[197] Imagine playing Call of Duty now.

[198] Dude, I did not realize how bad ass 3D looks now with a movie that's animated for 3D and then you get one of those 3D glasses and you watch on the new 3D TVs.

[199] It's fucking incredible, man. It's just like, it's overwhelming.

[200] Like, you look at it, you're just going, wow.

[201] Isn't it weird that it's finally taking off?

[202] I mean, we had 3D back when I was 10.

[203] But it's not taken home.

[204] It's not.

[205] It's a huge fucking trick.

[206] It came out almost a year ago.

[207] You know how many Blu -ray DVD 3D movies that they're out?

[208] It's like two, right?

[209] Two or three.

[210] I think the third one just came out the other day.

[211] But like HD, the same thing.

[212] There wasn't that many HD channels, but you stick around.

[213] There's no way 2D is going to fuck with 3D.

[214] 3D porn's going to take over all that.

[215] They're making all movies in 3D now.

[216] Are they shooting porn in 3D?

[217] Oh, yeah.

[218] Yeah, they've been doing it for a while.

[219] That's the only way to bring porn back.

[220] How are you going to do 3D?

[221] You can't download 3D.

[222] And then ultimately you'll be able to down.

[223] It's going to make a big comeback.

[224] So should we invest.

[225] best in porn?

[226] Is that like a 3D porn market?

[227] It's got to be.

[228] That's actually smart.

[229] That's actually, that doesn't make sense.

[230] You can't download that shit.

[231] The bruises pop off the TV, right?

[232] The bruises pop off the TV?

[233] You could smell the fuck.

[234] Dude, for sure.

[235] For sure, they're going to have loads coming at you.

[236] You're going to have to dodge them.

[237] You know what I mean?

[238] Will you dodge them?

[239] No, they're going to come right at the screen and they're going to shoot to the girl's face and she's going to be covered in loads.

[240] Yeah, you're going to see the loads coming from behind the camera or something, right?

[241] Imagine if it was so good, though, if you had a wall projection TV and the legs were just being wrapped around you.

[242] It's really going to be gay point that takes off from 3D, because what could a girl do with 3D while she's having sex?

[243] Like, the titty's coming out of you.

[244] It looks better.

[245] It's just the depth is way better.

[246] It's not just that you have like tricks.

[247] That was like old 3D.

[248] Like remember Jaws 3D?

[249] There was only one thing that happened that the shark went through the glass.

[250] You're like, ah, he's coming.

[251] Absolutely.

[252] The rest of it was bunk.

[253] It was like tricks.

[254] but now it's not tricks it's like they're doing depth yeah it's like what was the monsters versus aliens that was the animated show that we were watching that was in 3D yeah it was insane it was so vivid and there was so much to it was like the depth was like it was like really shocking yeah and that's what it's going to be pretty soon it's going to be like where you look at your wall and it's like you're looking into the next room yeah that that's what's going to be like you're watching Seinfeld like as if Seinfeld was in your house right right that's what it's going to be if it's gotten this far I mean, what it looks like is pretty fucking incredible, man. Way better than the movies, because movies are big...

[255] What would happen?

[256] My shit went...

[257] Bro, we lost one of the channels for the head.

[258] There it goes.

[259] It's back.

[260] What happened?

[261] All I'm saying is that you can get more creative with gay porn.

[262] You know, with loads.

[263] We're losing.

[264] You got a bad connection on the headsets.

[265] All right.

[266] So anyways...

[267] It's in there.

[268] Yeah.

[269] But I'm saying is it looks way better than the movies because movie theaters, it's like kind of shitty resolution.

[270] It looks like grainy, you know, even if it's a giant, it's better.

[271] Even if it's a giant screen, it's not nearly as good as like a giant, like, 55 -inch plasma screen.

[272] You know, the depth that you get when you look at, like, a real good TV, it's like the resolution's like way crisper.

[273] Did you see Jackass in 3D?

[274] That was using old school 3D techniques, like dildo's coming towards your face.

[275] So that wasn't using depth.

[276] That was active.

[277] They actually slowed down, like, things so you could see it come at you.

[278] And they really, that was the best movie that for the 3D.

[279] Content is awesome for 3D.

[280] All I kept thinking about is, I mean, they're getting fucking some head trauma going on.

[281] They're really jacking their heads up.

[282] For sure, at least one of those dudes, one of those dudes is going to have Lou Gehrig's disease.

[283] Are you after watching that show on brain trauma, was it real sports?

[284] Yes.

[285] Are you more aware of that shit?

[286] Oh, yeah.

[287] The whole time I was watching Jackass, I'm like, goddamn, it's funny.

[288] It's all fun in games around.

[289] you're making a lot of money, but they're really fucking themselves up.

[290] I mean, I saw the saddest interview with Michael, not Michael, with Muhammad Ali when he was Cassius Clay.

[291] He was talking about retiring when he got to be a certain age because I don't want to be one of them fighters, it's old and been hitting the head too many times.

[292] It's talking, duh, duh, duh, duh.

[293] Whoa.

[294] Yeah, whoa, indeed.

[295] It was like, it was so creepy to listen to that.

[296] Like, you, you're the king of dur, dur, dur, you're the guy.

[297] When, if you talk about anybody where anybody looks to it.

[298] towards someone getting damaged, you know, from fighting in it being a sad case.

[299] He's the one.

[300] And there's a lot of people that are trying to say that he has Parkinson's.

[301] It's not related.

[302] The fuck it's not related.

[303] That's a bullshit politically correct argument.

[304] Yeah, he's got Parkinson's.

[305] What does that mean?

[306] It means his fucking brain is falling apart.

[307] And why do you think he has it?

[308] You don't think that has to do with the fact that he got battered in the brain for decades?

[309] You don't think that has something to do with that?

[310] That's crazy.

[311] They had this thing on 48 hours with Jerry Corey.

[312] Jerry Corey was like this great white hope from the 1970s.

[313] and they followed this dude around and he was like 53 years old when he died and they followed him around when he was 50 and he was gone gone there was nothing there he had no idea what was going on didn't know how to write his name his brother had to help him write his so he had Lou Gehrig's disease he had everything you know he had pugilistic a dementia that's what they call it that's what they were calling it you know as far as is it Lou Gehrig's disease what Lou Gehrig's disease is is the same thing that Stephen Hawking's has it's a your your body loses its ability to move itself There's a bunch of different things.

[314] I mean, Muhammad Ali has Parkinson's.

[315] You know, this guy had, you know, pugilistic of dementia, which is just dementia brought on by being punched.

[316] The whole deal is, you know, it's scary because we see it all the time, man. We see guys getting jacked in the head all the time.

[317] You know, it's a big part of what we do.

[318] It's real shit.

[319] Yeah.

[320] So much fun to watch, Thank God there's dudes willing to put their brains on the line for our entertainment.

[321] Well, it's just they got to know when to stop.

[322] That's the thing.

[323] I mean, it a few times.

[324] You can even get shut off a couple of times, but you've got to know when to stop.

[325] And everybody's when is different, and that's when it gets tricky.

[326] You know, no one could tell you.

[327] Remember Al -Star Overim when he was getting knocked out all the time?

[328] Alistar Overim was getting, like, jacked over and over again.

[329] Sergei Karatanov jacked him.

[330] Chuck Laudel jacked him.

[331] A lot of guys stopped him.

[332] I think he's been stopped like seven or eight times, at least six.

[333] So, I mean, he had been beaten up a bunch of times, both in kickboxing and in, you know, in an MMA.

[334] But then all of a sudden he makes his fucking tremendous comeback, and now he's one of the best fighters in the world.

[335] So it's like you can't never say that a dude's done.

[336] Because he made a sick comeback, and then made a sick comeback in striking, in K -1.

[337] You know, the fact that he was able to have that kind of success in just straight striking, I mean, that's pretty goddamn oppressive.

[338] So you can't tell he got to stop, because I would have told Alstar over him to stop.

[339] You know, who the fuck do you...

[340] When do you draw the line?

[341] Is it 5 -KOs?

[342] Is it 4 -KOs?

[343] You know?

[344] I think Peter Ertz has been stopped some crazy amount of times, Like 14 times over the course of his career Just something nutty like that Damn Think about that, huh?

[345] Yeah What if they find out What if they find out?

[346] Because Jiu Jitsu is fairly new What if they find out that You know If you get choked out like unconscious Like from a rear naked choke Or a Darsh or something like 20, 25 times That you're susceptible to get Lou Gehrig's disease Just from getting turned You know Just from getting shut off like that?

[347] Yeah, who knows?

[348] Well, I would say that they know That you can be deprived of blood to the brain for a certain amount of time before there's damage set in.

[349] But how do they know that?

[350] I mean, they know that people have gotten damaged because they had blood shut off to their brain for X amount of seconds or X, or is it a minute?

[351] I mean, what is the amount of time where you start getting brain damage?

[352] Remember we talked about this once?

[353] What you were saying, like, if you really hated somebody, you'd choke him out, but not to kill him, just hold on for 90 seconds and make you retarded.

[354] That's a character I wanted to develop that.

[355] A guy who's like, he's like a Dexter, you know, he's.

[356] just kills people but he doesn't kill him he just chokes him out just for 58 seconds just to turn him into a vegetable so he doesn't he doesn't go down for murder no one knows how this person became a vegetable and he just you know make it a romantic comedy and then like one dude and the conflict is he jokes a girl out he becomes a lover he does it for money he's just like the secret assassin he's not killing anybody he's just turning your enemies into like you pay him and then one guy he didn't choke long enough and the guy can kind of talk and he's trying to bust them out so he has to figure out how to fucking get near him again to choke him out the guy's like, he's like pointing out and he's like, hmm, I got to put this motherfucker in an arm triangle one more time, but um, but um, did you say, so that missile thing, a lot of people don't know this, but there was a missile that was fired last night off of the coast of California.

[357] California, like Malibu area.

[358] Yeah.

[359] I heard it on Carson radio show this morning and he said that you know, that's where he lives.

[360] He didn't see anything.

[361] And he had all these...

[362] Who's a radio show?

[363] Carson Daly?

[364] Carson Daly has a radio show?

[365] Yeah, and Kay Rock, I think.

[366] He does?

[367] Yeah, in the morning.

[368] Kay Rock is Kevin and Bean?

[369] Is he on after that?

[370] Maybe.

[371] Maybe after.

[372] But he was saying that he didn't see anything.

[373] So he had all these callers call in.

[374] And then it was like two hours later, everyone said they saw something, but not with the time that everyone else is saying.

[375] Well, they have pictures of it.

[376] Yeah.

[377] It is.

[378] Something happened.

[379] There was one before that happened.

[380] I remember I was driving.

[381] I was in Hollywood and the sky was like, it was just turning dusk.

[382] You know, so it was kind of like half dark, half light.

[383] And they launched a rocket and you could really see whatever this thing was, this missile.

[384] You could really see like the contrail behind it and everything.

[385] It was pretty dramatic, you know, and then they had to, you know, tell people that they do these things at night and that this one was, you know, was from out of Edwards Air Force Base, I guess.

[386] And they shot it at night, but it was just not dark enough.

[387] They miscalculated the time.

[388] So, people get to see it.

[389] So it's like, what do you mean they just shoot shit up in the air?

[390] Did they do this all the time?

[391] Yeah, my friend that's in the Navy says they shoot missiles all the time.

[392] Where do they go?

[393] I don't know.

[394] I probably aim them to the water.

[395] Shoot dead missiles.

[396] Imagine if you were in a fucking rowboat and nobody knew you were out there and you got hit in the head by a missile.

[397] Just a random...

[398] I mean, people have been shot, they've been shot by people shooting up in the air.

[399] The bullet goes up in the air and then lands on people.

[400] That's happened a bunch of times.

[401] Could you imagine if you got hit in the head, head by a fucking missile.

[402] I know what Alex Jones is saying about this missile thing, or if he even knows about it.

[403] What would he say?

[404] How would he say?

[405] Basically, the New World Order, the elites.

[406] I'll move you.

[407] I've got to move my phone.

[408] The New World Order of the elites.

[409] I don't know, what the fuck would he say?

[410] He would say something stupid.

[411] It was Obama.

[412] Yeah, we'd say something about life extension.

[413] We had a crazy experience in Texas with Alex Jones with Joey Diaz.

[414] What happened?

[415] Joe Diaz lit the Alex Jones show on fire.

[416] He went off.

[417] Alice Jones fucked up And this is where he fucked up He had Joey come on And it was his idea To bring Joey into the room He's talking to me about What about what about What's going on with the environment You know what's going on What about They're going to kill the dollar So he's got all this stuff That he's bringing up with me And then Joey's outside And we're just talking Kind of like straight Real conspiracy theory Alex Jones style But he brings Joey in And we were at the end of the show So he goes Well we're going to go into overdrive Right now And we're going to overdrive Super Secret Overdrive It's loud on the internet But you know you can swear It's all right It's not FCC But don't try not swear So he fucked up He gave the green light to Joey He let Joey know that Joey can just go off And so Joey starts going off First of all he's going off about Cuba About how What did he say?

[418] This is a free country Well the real When it really went awry It was when he started talking about smuggling drugs He goes I got out of the plane I had the sack under my ball sack I put the sack of weed I was stinking like a motherfucker And he's going No, no, you know, Alex Jones is going, no, you didn't.

[419] He goes, no, I did.

[420] It was under my left ball.

[421] My left ball is bigger than my right ball because I'm right -handed.

[422] I thought I had cancer for a while.

[423] And he just goes deep Joey Diaz, and as Alex Jones is going, whoa, no, no, that didn't happen, no. He goes, it did happen, cocksucker, Obama, freedom of speech.

[424] So he's going fucking crazy.

[425] And Alex Jones can't figure out what to do, and I am laughing my balls off.

[426] So as I'm laughing, you know, Joey, if he's going to.

[427] He's got an audience, and that audience is laughing.

[428] Joey knows how to finish the deal.

[429] It rages.

[430] It rages.

[431] He gets red.

[432] He starts getting sweaty.

[433] He knows how to finish the deal.

[434] So he's going off about how stinky this weed is under his ball sack, and then he'd go through the X -ray machine, and he thought he was going to have to get arrested.

[435] And then the more Alex Jones protest, the crazier guy.

[436] So Joey finally, you know, Joey stands up.

[437] He always likes to stand up when he's going to end something and walk away.

[438] He's in a fury, a frenzy.

[439] He goes, Joe Diaz, Facebook, Twitter.

[440] He stands up, and he goes, Check yourself before you wrecked yourself.

[441] Big dicks in your ass is bad for your health.

[442] Stay black, because that's the most important thing.

[443] Stay black.

[444] And the whole time he's screaming into the microphone to make it worse.

[445] You know, he's like, take this.

[446] He's grabbing the microphone with his big paws and screaming into it.

[447] The best part is when he first walked into, like, Alex Jones, his studio is set up where the camera is facing him, like, directly.

[448] And Joey just stands right in front and leans down on one knee right in front of the camera.

[449] So if you look at the video, if you can find the video anywhere, like it's just Alex and then this big head like blocking his this view and then it's the cameraman all scrambling for new shots and it's all like Joey Diaz's his head covering everyone's faces Joe Diaz he's a fucking national treasure man you realize moments like this I mean I'm giving it no justice here describing it I'm trying to describe it right you got to see it we're going to have it up in a video it's available online you can see the whole thing but we're going to edit it and put together the right parts and a whole video of the whole Austin trip because Austin was and always is the shit.

[450] Every time I go there to film, it seems like magic happens.

[451] That is one of the best cities in the fucking state.

[452] It's one of the best cities in the world, man. It really is.

[453] Well, it is one of the best cities in a state.

[454] It's also one of the best cities in the country.

[455] And if this is the best country in the world, then that's one of the best countries or cities in the world.

[456] I just fuck that whole thing.

[457] Dude, not only is the food amazing.

[458] Everywhere you go, the food is fucking amazing.

[459] Everywhere you go, the women are beautiful.

[460] and awesome and nice and love to party and hang out.

[461] People are friendly there, man. It's a friendly place.

[462] There's a few spots like that in this country, man, where people are friendlier.

[463] That's one of the best ones.

[464] Austin, Texas is one of the best ones.

[465] Fucking, great music.

[466] One of the smartest ones, too.

[467] Yeah.

[468] You know, there's just so many smart, cool, interesting people there.

[469] It's just a fun fucking place to do.

[470] Worst highways ever.

[471] The GPS just quefs when it tries to find the exit.

[472] Well, for some reason, they decided instead of make their highways wide.

[473] they decide to stack them on top of each other.

[474] It's like the logic behind it is so strange.

[475] And if you miss an exit, it's so impossible.

[476] You have to round about it.

[477] You're fucked.

[478] You're fucked.

[479] Because almost every exit becomes a new highway in another direction.

[480] You're like, where's this one going?

[481] It's death.

[482] It's death.

[483] If you miss a spot, you're fucked.

[484] But other than that, it's the shit.

[485] Jessica Oliver was here.

[486] The first clip that we got this classic from Austin was the clam thing They painted that whole green room too They redid that whole place That was sad The green room in the Austin Cap City Comedy Club used to be covered with graffiti And now it's just all painted Yeah and it was like famous comics You know some comics are dead Yeah like I think Mitch Headberg was on there and stuff And they just decided to paint this green over it Yeah I asked them like what happened Bird King buy you guys out What the fuck is this?

[487] Yeah it felt like IKEA or something like the Why would they do that?

[488] I don't know that was the biggest fail ever Somebody should take a picture of that green room and just call it fail.

[489] Well, someone should do is find photos of it all online and make wallpaper of it and then glue it back on the exact spot.

[490] I have a lot of the...

[491] I've taken most of it.

[492] What you should do is enlarge everything up, high resolution like with some fucking Gene Hackman movie type technology where they can take a big picture and actually make it look good.

[493] Maybe we'll wait until like it's LCD wallpaper and I'll just email them the photos.

[494] No, you're talking, bitch.

[495] Yeah, how could they do that man?

[496] That place in the Atlanta Punchline, that's another one.

[497] The Atlanta Punchline, the green room is just covered with there's a one of my favorite ones is stop trying to be hicks somebody had that as their avatar photo on the the rogan board for a while the best one was in the austin one was always my favorite and that's one thing i always think it's a pee on the toilet seat maybe it will keep women out of comedy no keep the toilet seat up oh yeah i was taking my own life and next to me then dude i'm not a person that lifts my toilet seat and peas i'm one of those guys i pee through it because i grew up with my mom and my sister and I just use I just wash it every time what you piss all over the toilet seat no no no my aim is amazing but once in a while you get that one little teeny drop so once in a while someone has to sit in your piss no because then I clean I always clean it with water and toilet paper hmm what about soap yeah was that enough if someone pissed on your fork and then cleaned it with water and toilet paper would you eat off of it you drink pee I don't I don't think I have to worry about your little button but yeah it's his pee on it's his I don't do it every day and it's not mine it's a big difference between if i said you know if i drank pee for a stunt on a radio show or if i pissed in your mouth these are two totally well it's like the old thing like we just always talk about do you stand wiping up or do you sit down and go through the the legs me and joe are both standers are you a standard fuck yeah yeah i see you get in there i i i wipe and then i jump in the shower i don't i just wipe one you shower every time every time wow what if you're shower every time you shit unless i'm like at a public restroom but my shit's consistent at my, in the morning.

[498] When I wake up 10 o 'clock, I'm ready to go.

[499] I have a bidet.

[500] I never even use that thing.

[501] You have a bidet?

[502] Oh, Chris from Flashlight, did you tell you about the bidet?

[503] He is a bidet that has like a laser that finds your asshole, then shoots water at your asshole, the same temperature of your skin, and then it comes out with another laser that shoots and finds the hair dry, and it dries your asshole.

[504] Yeah, well, I heard about it in Japan.

[505] They have these.

[506] They're toilet seats.

[507] It's not a bidet.

[508] It's actually a whole system.

[509] Yeah.

[510] Maurice Smith.

[511] Maurice called me up.

[512] And Maurice Smith, I call me out of it.

[513] Joseph, this is a great business opportunity, okay?

[514] Listen to this.

[515] It starts telling me about toilet seats.

[516] I tell you what, it's not a bad idea because that's one technology that has not changed since me, I was a kid, you were a kid.

[517] Like, it's the same.

[518] Wow, you got cushion.

[519] That's it.

[520] Why aren't we?

[521] They perfected that shit.

[522] Yeah, but no one's going to buy them.

[523] It's hard to get people.

[524] If it was $300, I would buy it.

[525] $300?

[526] Yes.

[527] It's probably a lot more than that.

[528] It probably really is.

[529] It lasers your asshole.

[530] Yeah, fine, that shit's got to cost like $7 ,000, dude, like sheeks and shit probably use that.

[531] You know what I mean?

[532] It blow dries you.

[533] Dude, it has a laser.

[534] If it was $500 installed, I would buy it.

[535] No way.

[536] $500, you would.

[537] Yes.

[538] The ones that are $500 are going to miss your asshole, but it's going to get your butt cheek.

[539] They're going to hurt your butt.

[540] It's going to be pounding in there.

[541] It's going to splatter all this shit around your balls.

[542] Throw some heat warmers on that, that I would do $600.

[543] They have warmers, too.

[544] That's the other thing.

[545] They're heated, the heated seat.

[546] So you sit down.

[547] It's all warm and comfy.

[548] Put Bluetooth on it, $700.

[549] Bluetooth, so do you have calls from there?

[550] Yeah, a call from your toilet.

[551] Can you imagine how it's speakers behind you?

[552] Like really nice, bows, speakers.

[553] You're just sitting there talking about.

[554] But then someone, they hear the echo and they get mad at you.

[555] Are you shitting and talking to me?

[556] I told you to disconnect the Bluetooth on the toilet.

[557] It will have like a jawbone.

[558] I'll have a second microphone that's like outside and it'll mix the two.

[559] You ever talk to somebody that gets upset at you when you're talking to them when you're taking a shit?

[560] No, I never, they never figure it out.

[561] I've told people before when they get upset.

[562] I've told people, are you peeing?

[563] I'm like, yeah, I'm peeing.

[564] Is that okay?

[565] I can hear you.

[566] I like face.

[567] Are we pretending we don't pee?

[568] Pay it ain't a big deal.

[569] But if you're on the phone and you shit and you like, your ass explodes like one of those nuclear shits, you know what I mean?

[570] Well, you got to wipe, you got to clean the toilet.

[571] There's only a few people I can do that with Ari.

[572] You don't usually want to do that, like when someone's on the phone.

[573] Unless it's your buddy.

[574] But if it's like a girl or something.

[575] Not for a business meeting.

[576] Yeah.

[577] I have FaceTime with Ari with shitting.

[578] Sometimes I fart when I'm on the phone and I'm like, ooh, I hope they don't, they didn't hear that.

[579] one.

[580] I got to pull a butt apart.

[581] There was one time when Ari called me by FaceTime, and he was shitting.

[582] So I was like, you know what?

[583] I have to poop, too.

[584] Let's do this.

[585] FaceTime double shit.

[586] I haven't used the FaceTime yet.

[587] Do you guys like it?

[588] Oh, it's great.

[589] Now they have a beta on your Mac so you could FaceTime from a computer to iPhone.

[590] So if somebody's at home, you'd be like, jump on your computer, you know?

[591] So now you can FaceTime between those two devices.

[592] When is that really necessary?

[593] It's like your girlfriend and she's like on the other side of the world or something.

[594] Well, yeah, you know, we're all on the road.

[595] You're on the road.

[596] That's about it.

[597] There's that.

[598] Like your buddies?

[599] Dude.

[600] get on FaceTime, bro.

[601] He's going to fucking do that.

[602] Well, we talked about this before that eventually we're going to have little cameras in front of us on like fishing poles, you know, that are hanging from our hats.

[603] It's probably going to be just not like fishing pools.

[604] It's probably going to be like hovering.

[605] it'll be floating with you, right?

[606] It'd be a proximity droid.

[607] We're going to miss the best technology with the oldest technology.

[608] Yeah.

[609] I don't feel like fishing poles?

[610] You don't feel the need for it, but I mean, that's what I said, used to say about text messages.

[611] Remember I used to joke about it takes you four presses to get an S?

[612] It was like a part of my act.

[613] Yeah.

[614] The whole thing about, remember when you used to do the whole thing about Nextel?

[615] Nextel, they don't have Wachie Tockeys anymore.

[616] Do they?

[617] They still do that?

[618] Yeah, yeah.

[619] I think they all do.

[620] In Brazil, nextel is like fucking Burger King, no, dude.

[621] They run shit.

[622] They failed in the States.

[623] They said, fuck it.

[624] We still got Brazil.

[625] What?

[626] Brazil.

[627] Dude, Nextel is huge in Brazil.

[628] Really?

[629] They love the walkie -talkie feature.

[630] It's on Verizon, too.

[631] It's on all of them.

[632] You know, there's a funny story.

[633] There was this dude in front of Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles and he was on a speakerphone and he was talking by himself.

[634] He was just standing there by himself on a speakerphone talking and talking out loud and you can hear his conversation.

[635] And so I twittered, I said, what is it about black dudes that like to talk on the speaker phones when they're by themselves?

[636] Like, what is the deal with that?

[637] And all these fucking people got mad at me. A lot of black people got mad at me. Yo, that's dickish.

[638] That was dickish.

[639] I go, what that?

[640] Whoa, whoa.

[641] Whoa.

[642] I didn't say shit about you.

[643] Okay?

[644] I said, what is it with all these black people that like to talk on speaker phones?

[645] Just because you're black?

[646] And if you're doing that, I'm not dickish.

[647] I'm just observing.

[648] What is that?

[649] That's a weird thing that I don't see that many white people doing, but I see a lot of black people doing.

[650] And it's not a negative thing.

[651] Like, what?

[652] There's a lot of fucking dushy things that white people do, too.

[653] But I'm not being racist here.

[654] I'm observing something.

[655] Are you saying that I'm not allowed to observe because you share the same melanin content as this person I'm observing?

[656] and even though you're not even doing the same things they're doing, that's fucking ridiculous.

[657] We're real close with racism in this country, man. We're real close to being ridiculous.

[658] Yeah, well, it is ridiculous.

[659] The whole thing is ridiculous.

[660] You know, like, especially, like, the whole anger between, you know, like feeling like you have to fight somebody because of their race, you know?

[661] Like, there's people, like, beating up different races just because of what race here.

[662] Yeah, there's that.

[663] I mean, that's legit racism.

[664] What I'm talking about is the opposite.

[665] I'm talking about people looking to point the finger at racism.

[666] when you're really just acknowledging something that's a fact.

[667] I'm just seeing something.

[668] I'm like, the fact that I said that they happen to be black, yeah, well, they didn't happen to be black.

[669] So why do they do this?

[670] Why do these brothers be doing that?

[671] I don't know.

[672] They just do it.

[673] I don't know why they do it, but they do it.

[674] Oh, you didn't get an answer?

[675] No, no one has an answer.

[676] No, but most people were saying they're attention whores, you know, and that's what, you know, I guess one of the reasons why people were getting mad at me is I was saying that black people are attention whores, which is not what I'm saying.

[677] I'm saying, I see a lot of black people that like to talk on their speakerphone when they're by themselves.

[678] I don't see white people doing it.

[679] It doesn't mean they're not doing it, but I'm asking.

[680] It's like something I see and might not allow it to see things because people are black.

[681] Like, that's a tricky fucking road to walk down.

[682] That's nonsense.

[683] You know what?

[684] Maybe it's because they don't want to get brain cancer and they're just, you know, more concerned about it than white people, dude.

[685] I know somebody that does that, I know somebody that only talks using the speaker phone function for some reason.

[686] Yeah, but not in public outside.

[687] No, they do it.

[688] They do it at Olive Garden.

[689] Who is it?

[690] Esther.

[691] Ister?

[692] Oh, she's black.

[693] Or at least she likes black dick, for sure.

[694] Why does she do that?

[695] I have no idea.

[696] I have no idea.

[697] She records every single phone call between her and her parents, too, because her parents are so ridiculous.

[698] But she's just really weird with her phone and phone calls.

[699] That's funny, man. Sorry about that.

[700] I think it's cool.

[701] I think it's cool.

[702] Do you really?

[703] No. Just trying to help you out.

[704] Yeah, it's a tricky thing, man. There was a white girl at the end.

[705] airport who's talking her ass off like just really fucking loud waiting to get on a plane and it was kind of annoying it's fucking annoying a shit man you can have a normal conversation just put that fucking thing up to you here i usually cover yeah i usually cover like my mouth with my hand i don't want people listening to this is a big difference between someone sitting there going hey yeah what's up what's going on how you doing and someone going yo what's up what's going on what you're doing okay and then what happens and then the other person in the other hand i'm thinking we're going come down there.

[706] All right, cool, cool.

[707] Why don't I have to listen to your shit, man?

[708] This is loud.

[709] Maybe she just does it around me. Now I'm kind of paranoid that I said that.

[710] You know, because I'm like, wait.

[711] You think she does it by herself?

[712] Maybe I don't know.

[713] She only does it.

[714] She does it around me a lot.

[715] Maybe it's a security thing where she wants to do, like, hey, I'm talking to this person.

[716] You know what I mean?

[717] Yeah, maybe it's just around me. Yeah, maybe that's...

[718] Wow, she's being respectful.

[719] I hope you don't fucking start a trend.

[720] She's being respectful.

[721] Yeah, but I should start doing it around her, I guess.

[722] there's a yeah it can't be that though it can't be that because it was no way we got a tricky thing in this world about people being too fucking sensitive there's a lot of too fucking sensitive people that can't take a joke or even take a conversation how about this there's michelle obama Obama's wife is uh apparently the center of controversy because she shook a dude's hand she's in indonesia and there's a Muslim dude there and they were saying hello you know some de meet and some dignitaries and she shook his hand it's like all over the news all over the news oh wow she was being nice to somebody oh yeah the Muslims they're losing their fucking my I can't wait for the Muslims are losing their yes very upset I think I pulled it up but um anyway the the fucking story is it's very simple here it is Michelle Obama shakes hands with Indonesian information minister well try saying this dude's name Durka Durka Tifatu Sembring as Obama arrived in Jakarta on Indonesia.

[723] Apparently, a conservative Muslim minister in Indonesia who is being criticized for shaking hands with Michelle Obama, thus violating his pious claim that he avoids contact with women not related to him.

[724] As you know, as you're supposed to do and some sex of Islam.

[725] What the fuck, man. 2010, dude, this is in the news.

[726] Some woman shook a dude's hand.

[727] You know, what the fuck, man. He just wanted to touch, get something that's touched Obama's dick.

[728] You think so?

[729] Yeah, he wanted a connection, like a Kevin Bacon connection to Obama's dick.

[730] That is what you get if you shake her hand, right?

[731] Yeah.

[732] You get it all.

[733] We get it all.

[734] You get the whole package.

[735] What if she became president one day, Michelle Obama?

[736] That would be fucking awesome.

[737] Get a chick in there, and she's black.

[738] That's beautiful.

[739] That is beautiful.

[740] If she could be running shit, if she was an exceptional person to run shit, I'd be down.

[741] You know, the thing about chicks running shit is, though, they have to.

[742] to be really good at running shit.

[743] They can't just be hot.

[744] That's the problem with this fucking Sarah Palin thing.

[745] There's all these faggots out there that think that she's good enough to be president because they want to fuck her.

[746] I was talking about this on stage.

[747] They think that life is like a fucking Kevin Bacon movie where you're the last vote that counts, you know, and then she finds out that you're the one who got her elected presidents and she comes to meet you in an unlikely romance blossoms.

[748] You know, there's a lot of idiots that are willing to vote for Palin because they really do think she's hot.

[749] But, I mean, look, if you can get some genius, brilliant woman to be running shit, I'd be just as down with that.

[750] But a dumb bitch, no, no. She's never going to become president.

[751] No, Palin?

[752] No. Well, you know what?

[753] I wouldn't say never, dude, because I would have never believe she would have the following that she has.

[754] But everyone knows, everyone that has had a TV for the last year and a half, two years, have seen every single skit with her.

[755] And even if you like her, you have that in the back of your mind.

[756] Only you do.

[757] You're not retarded.

[758] See, dude, 50 plus percent of this country is almost retarded.

[759] True.

[760] there's a giant number of people that are so fucking dumb that there could be some other issue look how about this Jan Brewer chick do you know who she is she's the woman who was she was made governor of Arizona because the original governor left and went to what is her name I forget went to the Obama campaign anyway the point is this Jan Brewer woman is nuts she's nuts and old and can't fucking talk and she goes on these debates and she paused she went on debate she's debating with this other guy was running for governor She paused for 10 seconds, said nothing.

[761] Just was stammering and not knowing what to do and moving her hands and shit.

[762] She had a full brain lock.

[763] This bitch lied about there being dead bodies on the Mexican border with their heads chopped off.

[764] And then everybody went, well, where are the bodies?

[765] Like, where's the autopsy reports?

[766] Where's the police reports?

[767] And it turns out it was all just horseshit.

[768] She lied about her fucking father dying in World War II.

[769] Wow.

[770] She said, my father died defending on the...

[771] No, she didn't.

[772] He didn't die in World War II.

[773] She made it up.

[774] He died.

[775] During World War II.

[776] No, he didn't even.

[777] He's still alive.

[778] That was the guy was alive.

[779] Oh, he's still alive?

[780] He's still alive.

[781] Maybe his soul got a piece of a soul died during World War II.

[782] She's just a dumb cunt, more likely.

[783] Now, she won.

[784] And you know why she won?

[785] Because she supports this crazy new immigration law.

[786] She wants to keep all the Mexicans out of Arizona.

[787] Hey.

[788] And most of Arizona is white people.

[789] Most of Arizona is crazy old white people.

[790] And they're like, you know.

[791] Fuck that, man. Arizona's a nutty place, man. We have a good time there.

[792] Because people like to party and, you know, the shows are always fun there.

[793] People are always looking for fun stuff to do.

[794] But if you look at Arizona as a state, like, it's kind of a wonky fucking state, man. Totally.

[795] You're allowed to just have guns there, dude.

[796] You could just be walking around with a gun in your pocket.

[797] You have to with all the Mexicans.

[798] They got guns.

[799] Ladies gentlemen, Eddie Bravo is Mexican.

[800] So before you start fucking firing up your pen and getting crazy with your hate mail and firing up your Twitter account.

[801] Yes, it's totally okay.

[802] I could fucking make fun of burritos all day.

[803] Do you have anybody that you're following on Twitter?

[804] that you're following just because they're dumb that you can talk about?

[805] No, not that I could tell.

[806] Oh, well, you know, no. Yeah, you got to be nice, right?

[807] No. Yeah.

[808] I like ridiculously dumb tweets or funny tweets.

[809] But in between shit, I'm not into.

[810] Like, when dudes just tweet, like, motivational shit that they've heard, like, come on, man. I'm not for that shit.

[811] I love motivational ones.

[812] I love like dudes who are like older who give advice Like Steve Harvey is my current favorite Check this shit out There's a tweet I save him I save his tweets Your relationship with a man is either off or on It cannot be off and on Ladies, you have the power Stop allowing the back and forth Damn he's like a black Dr. Phil Well first of all How do you know that the chick isn't just looking to get some dick All right Yeah it's off and on People are crazy, man, and they can always work out.

[813] It's a trick.

[814] He's trying to get bitches.

[815] He's trying to get him to like him.

[816] Pearsensitive, right?

[817] Is that what it is?

[818] Totally.

[819] Here's another one.

[820] Good morning.

[821] God will perform the unexpected time and time again.

[822] If you just let him.

[823] Talk to God.

[824] Don't be too proud to pray.

[825] How many followers is he on?

[826] I prayed right after I heard that.

[827] How many followers does he have?

[828] I don't know.

[829] He's got a lot.

[830] Steve Harvey's a famous guy.

[831] I bet he's got $100 ,000?

[832] Probably something like that.

[833] Yeah.

[834] I just hit 200 ,000.

[835] BAMS, son.

[836] That's incredible.

[837] Thank you very much.

[838] That's pretty cool.

[839] How many a day do you get normally, like, adders?

[840] A few hundred.

[841] A few hundred.

[842] Yeah.

[843] I like how it continues.

[844] Once you get to a certain point, you notice it you get an average of, like, a certain amount per day.

[845] I only have 16 ,000.

[846] I treat it like, you know, I, like, I treat it like a little, like a little platform.

[847] Like a little comedy.

[848] It's your farmville.

[849] You know, I mean, there's a lot of times where I get on there and I just promote gigs or a lot of times I find, like, cool shit that I find online.

[850] Like that Italian song or that American guy or the Italian guy was speaking, he was singing in an American accent.

[851] Like what, it was like gibberish.

[852] It wasn't real American words.

[853] Sim talk.

[854] But what he thought.

[855] Can you find that?

[856] Here, this is what is.

[857] I would love to hear that.

[858] Someone making fun of an American accent but not really using words.

[859] It's really interesting.

[860] Yeah, it's really interesting.

[861] And it's kind of a cool song.

[862] And if you see the video.

[863] But I'll tweet shit like that or science tweets.

[864] That was going to tweet something today.

[865] You know, they fired up the large Hadron Collider and made thousands of little big bangs.

[866] They started doing that, man. That's become a reality.

[867] They're really doing it now.

[868] Nice.

[869] So they have all these photos at the CERN lab.

[870] It's fascinating, fascinating fucking shit, man. Yeah.

[871] But, you know, so there's that I do.

[872] And then I also, like, I treat it like a little audience.

[873] You know, I think you got to give people things, man. When you're looking to promote gigs and use the internet and shit like this, you know, you can't just promote.

[874] You got to give them some shit, too.

[875] It's like the other day I was watching ancient aliens.

[876] I spent like a whole hour just tweeting, talking shit on ancient aliens.

[877] that show yeah the new season so bad well the first season was incredible the first season's awesome they're gonna talk about yeah they they're trying to you know it was it was crazy all the shit they were saying but if you look at it this way if you're if you don't believe in UFOs then that sounds ridiculous but if you do believe if you like watch the disclosure project and you listen to all of philip corso's testimony the guy used to work for the we used to be in the Pentagon and fucking head of nuclear energy in Europe and all that shit, when you hear his confessions and like the deathbed confession of General Ramey and just if you, if you believe in UFOs, then fucking anything is possible, then that means they must have been here several times at least.

[878] And if they were around during the Greek time, they must have tripped out on them.

[879] That must have been a big news like these motherfuckers.

[880] And they must have like drew about, I mean, you know, painted, about it, talked about it, wrote some scripture about it or something.

[881] It's not that far -fetched, but they were coming to some, like, ridiculous conclusions, like, about, like, the paintings in India, that maybe this was an alien.

[882] Well, the Mahabharata, that's a fascinating text, the ancient text of ancient Hinduism, is riddled with stories of flying things and, you know, things that flew through the air.

[883] But you also have to realize that these people took a lot of drugs.

[884] These people were in the heavy psychedelic drugs.

[885] I mean mana to the, you know, in the ancient Hindu text, they believe it's some sort of a combination of psilocybin mushrooms and a bunch of other different things.

[886] There's a bunch of debate about what mana is, but it's very clear that they were referencing something that connected them to the psychedelic world.

[887] And if it was something that connected them to the psychedelic world, you know, and I know, you're going to see some shit.

[888] It doesn't mean that the shit you're seeing is not real.

[889] You know, when you see the like when people think of hallucinations like you think of oh you took a drug and you saw a monkey that wasn't really there and he you know you know you think of something fake but what you see a lot of times when you take psychedelic drugs is not like the rest of the world and then all of a sudden some new fake thing shows up it shows you like a whole new world it shows you like a whole hallucination world which may or may not be real you know what what what might be happening when you take like big doses of any crazy drug is you might be tuning in to the next door neighbor channel.

[890] You know there might be the whole world might be a fucking radio of a million different channels and we might be on you know 106 .4 and there's a 106 .5 and it's right next door and when you take mushrooms you go there.

[891] You know so you know these guys saying that they you know saw these flying things and talking about all these majestic beings with all this wisdom that very easily could have been drugs.

[892] Very easily.

[893] Yeah it could be It could be both.

[894] I mean, just because you have a psychedelic experience doesn't mean that, I mean, that...

[895] I'm very, I don't know how much I believe, very skeptical about crafts from another planet that come here that are metal and the traditional idea of like, you know, just doing a super advanced version of what we already do.

[896] I look at that and I go, I don't think so.

[897] This just seems too silly.

[898] It seems too mechanical.

[899] A lot of testimony, dude.

[900] Yeah, but it doesn't matter.

[901] There's a lot of testimony.

[902] people being raped by demons.

[903] You can go back in time and find thousands of people who've been exercised.

[904] Yeah, but these people aren't...

[905] Which trials?

[906] These people aren't organizing and getting in front of the Washington, D .C., and the national press and they don't have credible witness, like, hundreds of them, and Philip Corso and all these guys that, like, in their deathbed.

[907] Like, you watch the testimony.

[908] It's like, do you think these guys are lying?

[909] Okay.

[910] Well, you know, that's true, but it doesn't necessarily mean that they are telling the truth.

[911] It might mean they're wrong.

[912] It might mean that there's some crazy government experiments that they don't they're not aware of sure i believe in that i believe there's definitely a lot of the shit maybe most of the shit that people see and report are our own government making shit but if you listen to philip corso testimony he's saying yes a lot of that shit is our shit did philip or so say that he saw things himself personally exactly yes he did he was philip corso was he was part of roswell right he wasn't at roswell but he was involved in like the shipping of stuff he said he saw the bodies he said that he was in physically saw them or saw the coffins?

[913] No, no, no, he saw that.

[914] He said he opened the coffin, saw him and said, oh, shit.

[915] And he knew so much that he was in charge of taking crashed UFO shit and taking it to, this is what he said, taking it to, like, Hughes Aircraft and McDonald -Douglas, getting reverse engineering.

[916] Well, the fascinating story about Roswell, and everybody thinks that Roswell is a silly, stupid story, and no one knows exactly what happened.

[917] It could have been some sort of a Soviet craft that crashed, but the fascinating part is that They flew the wreckage in two separate planes because they wanted to make sure if one plane crashed, they had a good chance of the other plane would make it to write Patterson Air Force Base.

[918] They made sure they separated the wreckage.

[919] There's just so much evidence.

[920] Even like today with like the China, the Shanghai airport in China, closed down twice within a few months because there was some shit right over the airport.

[921] They didn't know what it was.

[922] They shut everything down.

[923] I mean, just shit like that all over the world.

[924] I mean, there's so, there's actually is evidence.

[925] I mean, people are put away for life with no video, no pictures of the crime, just testimony.

[926] Man, they're just listening to testimony and putting people away for multiple life sentences.

[927] When you put all the evidence together, just look up Philip Corso with a see what?

[928] There's hours and hours of him just talking about.

[929] He wrote a book about it before he was, he was old motherfucker.

[930] He was on dateline and shit.

[931] I think an even more compelling one is Dr. J. Allen Heineck.

[932] who was working on Project Blue Book and he was assigned to discredit UFO stories.

[933] What his job was, as he explained it was, when he would hear about something, he would come up with a reason that it was something else.

[934] Swamp gas, swamp gas, circular ball lightning, all this different shit.

[935] He was hired for that by the government, like in the 50s and 60s.

[936] And then when Project Blue Book shut down, he dedicated his entire life to investigating UFOs and enlightening people on it.

[937] Totally.

[938] And he talks about it.

[939] I mean, there's interviews, she's like, I was, and then there's like a new theory now.

[940] The new theory is that the government wants everyone to believe in UFOs to keep their projects under wrap, like their black projects under wrap.

[941] I'm like, what was this Project Blue Book and all this stuff where they were saying that it was swamp gas?

[942] They were trying to calm everybody down.

[943] Why were they lying?

[944] I mean, they would have just said, yeah, you know what?

[945] We don't know what it is.

[946] It's probably from another galaxy, but we don't know.

[947] but we assure you we're going to do whatever it takes to protect you.

[948] If they really wanted people to believe in the UFOs, they'd be saying that shit, not covering it up.

[949] So, I mean, if you look up, look at the Philip Corso testimony, look at, look up the disclosure project.

[950] There's already been at least two of them.

[951] I mean, there's so much credible.

[952] And like the top scientists of Europe all got together.

[953] I forget what the committee's called, like international groups.

[954] They came together in France, and they looked at all the UFO testimony and all the shit.

[955] And they said 15%, it's probably beans from another galaxy or another solar system.

[956] That's what they said.

[957] All of them could have been explained away, but the 15 % they said, hmm, this is probably...

[958] That's a weird conclusion, though.

[959] Why would they not conclude that it was something from this earth that we haven't discovered yet?

[960] Especially when you look at the ocean?

[961] Well, that's what they concluded.

[962] They concluded that all the other shit, 85 % of all the shit they look, that could be man made that could be this this is probably some reflection off the sun 15 % they said the it's most likely because based on the pictures and the way that that's they got some shit from like satellite pictures of craft coming from the top down that they couldn't explain they're like man what the fuck is moving you know that there's so much shit of things moving and then changing angles and changing direction and moving another way the big the big uh incident that happened at the U .S. military installation in the U .K. When there's 80 motherfuckers that saw this aircraft, three of them came up to it as it was parked.

[963] They touched it.

[964] They took notes.

[965] They're on the disclosure part.

[966] Three of them went up to it and 80 of them were all around going, holy shit.

[967] That's possible that it was a drone.

[968] That's possible that it was something from America.

[969] And they, when they said it took off, it disappeared, it was gone.

[970] If you have a drone, I mean, especially if we're talking about different alternative sources of power, we don't know exactly what None of those motherfuckers, and it came back.

[971] They sent a guy to look into it, and that guy's in the Disclosure Project, too.

[972] Like two days later, they sent the guy to calm everyone down, and they came back and they saw it, and these guys are all.

[973] And when the military, the U .K. Embassy, the Ministry of Defense, there, when they came up to him and asked them, what are we going to do about this?

[974] What was that?

[975] They go, this doesn't concern, if it doesn't concern national security, we're not getting.

[976] involved.

[977] If it doesn't occur, and we feel that it doesn't it doesn't...

[978] Okay, but here's a problem with this whole story.

[979] Okay, you weren't there, I wasn't there, we're just talking about what we heard people talking about.

[980] We don't know exactly what went down.

[981] And until you talk to these people, you don't know how many of them are full of shit, how many of them are exaggerating, how many of them were traumatizing?

[982] That's why I say, based on the shit that you see, if you actually look into it, and then you make the judgment, you're making the judgment, damn.

[983] You know, if you haven't seen the testimony, then, yeah, we don't know what he said, or...

[984] It doesn't, listen, what I'm saying is, it doesn't matter.

[985] It's all on testimony.

[986] When you're basing on testimony, you don't know anything about these people.

[987] You never know how much of it you're getting square.

[988] If 80, and this is what they said, too.

[989] They said the response to the British Ministry of Defense saying, if it doesn't concern national security, we're not going to get involved, then 80 people fucking hallucinated then.

[990] And they got 80 people, 80 people that are full of shit.

[991] They got 80 people.

[992] It means neither.

[993] It means neither.

[994] That's not true.

[995] It means that 80 people were not aware of what they were looking at.

[996] That's all it means.

[997] If military people, they're trained to observe, they're in the military.

[998] It doesn't mean anything.

[999] If the military people that are in the know, the people that are there at the scene of the crime or the scene of the landing, if they're not aware of the technology that's available to the highest levels of government, they're not aware of whatever experimental shit they're working on, it might as well be from another planet.

[1000] So what are they going to say?

[1001] If they don't know about it?

[1002] Of course, nobody knows.

[1003] Nobody was there, but to make a judgment based on the testimony, you can totally not believe in and go, you know what?

[1004] I don't believe these guys.

[1005] Or you could look at it and say, I'm going to look it with the open mind.

[1006] Fuck, 80 dudes that are trained observers.

[1007] Three went up to it and touched it.

[1008] They said they're saying it's out of this fucking world.

[1009] Definitely.

[1010] They're saying it.

[1011] That's what they're in the military.

[1012] The British Ministry of Defense is fucking not even looking into it at all.

[1013] I mean, the conclusion.

[1014] I hear you.

[1015] But it's still a bunch of people.

[1016] testimony about something they saw they might not have known what they were seeing and then you add all the shit around that's just one incident and then you look at all of it you connect all the dots and you know you can make a decision and my decision is that there's some shit going on that's how I feel based on my decision is not that at all my decision as is there's a lot of people with a lot of stories and we know for a fact that there are a fuckload of experimental government aircrafts that they use whether they're They're manned or whether they're remote control and you know all these people are just telling their version of a story something that they saw I believe that they saw something I do not believe that they know it was from another world So them even saying it was from another world people want shit to be romantic They want shit to be little gray men they come here in spaceships from Palladias Wherever the fuck they're coming from the galaxy They want that they look for that shit fall in love That's all true what you're saying but so you don't believe that there's UFOs?

[1017] What does this believe, man?

[1018] You either believe that you don't believe.

[1019] That's not true.

[1020] That is not true.

[1021] That is not true.

[1022] You do not have to believe that something is real or something's not real.

[1023] You just go, I don't know, because that's the only rational explanation.

[1024] Yeah, but you can't say you believe because when you believe you throw everything else out the door.

[1025] You say, well, this is, I believe there are UFOs.

[1026] I believe that aliens have landed here.

[1027] I don't believe that.

[1028] I don't believe we know.

[1029] I don't believe that we're absolutely convinced.

[1030] And I don't believe that you believe that Philip Corso was a crazy man. was full of shit.

[1031] What are you doing adding words to what I'm saying?

[1032] No, I'm saying that's like 12 year old shit.

[1033] Based on based on what you saw from Philip Corso.

[1034] I believe he's out there sucking cock and take it in the ass and he's doing drugs and he didn't even know what he was saying.

[1035] How about that?

[1036] Is that better?

[1037] I'm just trying to get...

[1038] He was just a guy man. I mean, he's a guy that said he saw some bodies and he's a guy that used to work for the military.

[1039] Is he credible?

[1040] Is he interesting?

[1041] He was a head of nuclear energy in Europe.

[1042] Okay.

[1043] George Bush was the president and he's an idiot.

[1044] Does it matter?

[1045] Does it matter like how high he got up there?

[1046] it's very clear to me that the entire government is riddled with fucking idiots there's idiots all over the place it was he an idiot i don't think so he seemed like an interesting guy did he see some shit i don't know what did he see in those bodies what were they who the fuck knows they might have been mutants they might have been fucking radiation disasters they might have been little children that had a disease i don't know i don't know how much he saw it i don't know how close he got to it i don't know you know what how much information he was really truly pretty do you think oj is guilty I don't know if OJ is guilty.

[1047] I would assume he has a lot of evidence.

[1048] Two dead people, knives, blood in his car.

[1049] It's a little different than some dude who says he saw UFOs and doesn't know what it is.

[1050] So why do they let him free?

[1051] What the fuck are we talking about OJ for, man?

[1052] That's silly.

[1053] Well, we're talking about evidence and testimony and all that stuff.

[1054] That's what we're talking about.

[1055] Because the jury system's fucked up.

[1056] That's why.

[1057] Because black people thought that it was one on their side, that they were going to release him.

[1058] And if it did not fit, you must have quit.

[1059] And they wanted to get back at the Rodney King verdict.

[1060] And so they released him.

[1061] That's why.

[1062] That's not a do with UFOs.

[1063] You guys are like a couple that broke up that have to live together.

[1064] You have to be careful when you start talking about things that you haven't seen yourself.

[1065] This is just my opinion.

[1066] I'm in the same way with you.

[1067] I don't, even if it was the most evidence ever, unless I knew for a fact, I saw it with my own eyes.

[1068] There's too much bullshit.

[1069] I don't follow anything.

[1070] Why stress out about it?

[1071] There's too much bullshit.

[1072] There's too many people are full shit.

[1073] Too many people exaggerate.

[1074] Too many people twist the truth.

[1075] And there's a big business in talk.

[1076] about UFOs and that's another thing to be careful of.

[1077] There's a gigantic business in writing books about this shit and doing lectures and seminars and these guys make a fucking good living traveling the country selling books and talking about UFOs.

[1078] Whenever you involve commerce in a very strange discussion, like the discussion of the potential reality of intelligent life from other planets, whenever you involve money in that and money in the stories, I mean then it becomes like sort of a faction of show business.

[1079] I mean, Whitley Streber is one of the fucking biggest proponents of the alien abduction story and wrote books on it, communion, and had movies made about it.

[1080] And that guy is a fucking book writer.

[1081] He writes books.

[1082] He makes fiction.

[1083] He makes fiction, and he created this whole thing about getting abducted by UFOs, and everybody took it as fact.

[1084] And, man, who the fuck knows of its fact?

[1085] You got a guy who's a professional fiction, man, and you don't know.

[1086] You don't know what's going on in his head.

[1087] in his head there's no evidence it's like it's like there may be UFOs absolutely there may be there may be intelligent life from mother planets absolutely there may be but you can't just jump on yes because you jump on yes who did i just jump on yes you jumped on yes did i didn't jump on yes you said you know how much research i fucking i'm obsessed with UFOs i'm i do a lot i didn't just jump on it i listened to a lot of test you said you but i didn't just jump on it like you're making it seem like you weren't like i heard one test stuff That's not what I'm saying.

[1088] I'm saying, look, if you listen to what I said, what I said was that you, unless you're experiencing it yourself, you don't know exactly what happened.

[1089] When you're talking about people that are talking about crafts that they think were from another world, you don't know where it really came from.

[1090] And that gets very, very tricky.

[1091] And if you choose to believe or not to believe, you're jumping on one side or another.

[1092] If you're saying, I don't think there's UFOs, I think everyone's full of shit, you're jumping on no. And if you say, I do believe, I believe they're here, you're jumping on yes.

[1093] Even if there's a lot of what you think is evidence, unless you're seeing it yourself, unless it has been proven, which it clearly hasn't, it's clearly up for debate, even though there's a bunch of people to come forward, whether there's a hundred or a thousand and they say they have crazy stories about things that move too fast, who the fuck knows what that is?

[1094] Who knows?

[1095] Okay.

[1096] You don't believe in UFOs?

[1097] Wow.

[1098] Wow.

[1099] Dude, are you kidding?

[1100] You're kidding?

[1101] You're kidding, right?

[1102] I'm not kidding.

[1103] That's not what I'm saying.

[1104] I'm not saying that I don't believe in UFOs.

[1105] Okay.

[1106] What I'm saying is, no one knows.

[1107] None of us know, man. No, no, no, that's what I'm saying.

[1108] Believe, when you believe something, it's like, you know, like based on the evidence, I believe there's some shit going on with other galaxies, other, that's what I believe.

[1109] that there's life on other planets.

[1110] It's certainly possible.

[1111] It's also possible that life is a dream.

[1112] It's also possible that your life is imagination and you've made it all up.

[1113] And I'm a figment of your imagination.

[1114] And each place, is in your life to provide you with some information and try to help you and move you along in a certain way.

[1115] It's very possible that this life is not even real.

[1116] It's very possible that I'm in your imagination and you're in mind and we self -create.

[1117] There's a lot of different possibilities, Matt.

[1118] That's possible.

[1119] But whether or not there's UFOs, because some people that you don't know who you've never met saw some things that you never saw and said they wrote it down and had conferences and discussions about it.

[1120] I don't know.

[1121] I don't know about that.

[1122] Do you guys like sweet potato fries?

[1123] it's just it's a tricky thing man it's we attach ourselves to what we believe in and you obviously are getting attached to this idea of of UFOs being real because you've spent so much time and invested so much time being fascinated by it I'm not just fascinated with I'm fascinated with the testimony and putting it all together I am too you're making it sound like I'm like mystically no I'm not man I'm not making it sound like I am saying exactly what you're saying but what I am fascinated by people and I know that people are full of shit.

[1124] And I'm not assuming that all these people are pious.

[1125] I'm not assuming that all these people are completely honest and without ulterior motive and telling exactly that, you know, as they saw it, the truth.

[1126] I'm not seeing that.

[1127] I'm seeing a bunch of believers, and that's the problem.

[1128] Even if you saw something fucking completely insane, I don't want you telling me you know what it is.

[1129] I don't want you describing it that way.

[1130] I want you saying, I don't know what it was.

[1131] I want you to say, I think, you know, It could have been some sort of a craft that I'm not aware of.

[1132] It could be some sort of - That's what UFO means, man, an identified flying object.

[1133] No, you're not saying UFO.

[1134] You're saying aliens.

[1135] Right?

[1136] Yes.

[1137] Well, I'm not saying aliens.

[1138] I'm saying unknown.

[1139] Okay.

[1140] And when someone says they know, and they start talking about it being from another planet, bitch, do you have like some fucking serial numbers you can track back to this planet?

[1141] Like, how do you know where it came from?

[1142] You don't know shit.

[1143] They're just taking a guess.

[1144] They see something in the sky.

[1145] I can't build it.

[1146] It must be from space.

[1147] I mean, it's that simple.

[1148] It's not that simple, man. Like, I can't do it.

[1149] It's not that simple.

[1150] It is that simple if you want to claim you know where it came from.

[1151] Man, okay, okay.

[1152] You can't know.

[1153] You can't know.

[1154] No one's saying they know.

[1155] If you don't know, if you haven't seen it, you don't know where it came from, you haven't watched the video of it fucking flying off that planet and landing here.

[1156] Then there's a lot of fucking guesswork.

[1157] It's a romantic idea.

[1158] The idea seems so cool.

[1159] The idea that there's fucking alien.

[1160] It's tricky because you get sucked into it.

[1161] Like, it seems so awesome.

[1162] So does a Loch Ness monster You know it's like we have this built -in shit in our head It's nothing like the Lackness monster man Lackness monster is like You know Bigfoot not well Bigfoot is a real animal You know they have isolated in an animal Called Gigantopithecus That they believe if human beings Came down the Bering Strait And they came from Asia Gigantopithecus lived in Asia As recently as 10 ,000 years ago It was a bipedal primate That was 8 to 10 feet tall So this is a believe in Bigfoot.

[1163] It's an animal.

[1164] Whether or not believe people see it?

[1165] What the fuck knows?

[1166] Man, there was Willie Mammoths and Sabertooth Tigers here 10 ,000 years ago.

[1167] Seven foot tall, giant fucking birds like a few hundred thousand years ago.

[1168] There was animals on this planet in this continent that don't exist anymore that were pretty fucking crazy.

[1169] Capertooth tigers are crazier than Bigfoot.

[1170] Bigfoot's just another big monkey.

[1171] If Bigfoot was Gigantopithecus, it's just another large primate that went extinct.

[1172] Where is Bigfoot supposed to be living?

[1173] Pacific Northwest, which is, if you follow the traveling down the Bering Strait, which is where Indians came here.

[1174] American Indians originated in Siberia and Asia, and they came down from there.

[1175] America, what people don't realize is, 10 ,000 years ago, half of America was under a mile high sheet of ice.

[1176] This was covered in ice.

[1177] It was like a barren land.

[1178] But something dramatic happened to the environment of the earth, and the ice age when it ended, the America opened up.

[1179] And that's when people started moving here.

[1180] Some of the people had already moved here.

[1181] They found Chinese bodies here from 10 ,000 years ago.

[1182] But when people started moving here, they came from there.

[1183] They came from the Bering Strait.

[1184] That's like the number one theory of a big percentage of the American Indians.

[1185] So they came down from Asia, and this monkey lived in Asia.

[1186] And if this thing followed them, who the fuck knows?

[1187] Is there any compelling evidence for Loch Ness Monster?

[1188] There's pictures.

[1189] There's scans from radar.

[1190] They think it could have been a big fish.

[1191] that could have got landlocked that was extinct in other places, but not there.

[1192] The problem with Loch Ness is it's really murky, they can't see, and it could be a bunch of other things, could be a bunch of other things that people are misconstruing.

[1193] And there's been a bunch of hoaxes.

[1194] But when enough people have seen things, you've got to wonder, what the fuck is it?

[1195] Is it an eel?

[1196] You got to think of all the animals that are real.

[1197] You know, is it a dolphin?

[1198] It's probably mostly floating wood and just people knowing the story and going, oh, there it is, I saw it.

[1199] There's more evidence for Bigfoot or Loch Ness Monster?

[1200] Probably Bigfoot.

[1201] Because Bigfoot, there's the American Indians.

[1202] That's a big part of the lore of Bigfoot.

[1203] There's over 250 American Indian names for Bigfoot.

[1204] Bigfoot was born in the imagination of an American Indian that just...

[1205] I might have made that up.

[1206] It might have been 20.

[1207] What did you say?

[1208] Bigfoot was born in the head of an American Indian that was just wanting attention.

[1209] You imagine one dude came up with that and spread over that happened?

[1210] And all the other ones, somebody hearing that same story and just being paranoid walking through the woods late at night.

[1211] It's like other tribes.

[1212] Other tribes with like these fucking costumes, like bare costumes.

[1213] The most compelling evidence about Bigfoot is actually the audio tapes.

[1214] There's these audio tapes of these crazy primate howls that they've recorded in the Pacific Northwest and they're really fucking loud.

[1215] They're really loud and interesting.

[1216] And these have been done and supposedly by legit scientists.

[1217] They've recorded these sounds.

[1218] It could be somebody They let a monkey lose.

[1219] They had a crazy pet monkey, and they let that motherfucker lose, and he's screaming in the woods.

[1220] Joe, if we put you in the woods, you could make up some sounds that they would think was Bigfoot in luck in this mouth, so it's a baby.

[1221] What's the worst conspiracy day, like the worst one?

[1222] Flat Earth.

[1223] There's people that live on the Earth is flat.

[1224] To the Young Earth, that's another bad one.

[1225] No, no, no. Like today, people don't believe it's not.

[1226] Yeah, they believe the Young Earth.

[1227] Yeah, that's a big percentage of the Christian population.

[1228] There's a guy on Twitter.

[1229] I follow him all the time.

[1230] He's just crazy, retarded Christian young.

[1231] Earth guy who's always talking about the evidence against evolution.

[1232] These YouTube videos are just you can't watch them for more than five minutes because the insanity radiates off the scream and it starts to get you.

[1233] Blonde hair, cute lips.

[1234] It's really nice.

[1235] Yeah, he's hot.

[1236] They believe that the Earth is less than 10 ,000 years old.

[1237] A lot of people.

[1238] More than 50 % during a recent Gallup poll in the United States believe that the Earth is the age that's depicted in the Bible, which is less than 10 ,000 years old.

[1239] They probably don't even know what that is.

[1240] They're just going to the Bible say that?

[1241] Yeah, yeah, it's the Bible.

[1242] Probably.

[1243] You know what I mean?

[1244] They're like, uh, what does, what does Jesus think?

[1245] Yeah, that's all they have to hear.

[1246] There's a lot of dumbass conspiracy theories.

[1247] Bigfoot's not the dumbest one.

[1248] Bigfoot, there's, there's a real animal that they can lock that to.

[1249] It's like, if there's one, the Jersey devil, some fucking giant monster that's like half the one or the Chippa Cobra.

[1250] Yeah, the Texas one.

[1251] Well, the Chippa Cobra, they've narrowed that down too.

[1252] They think it's Mange.

[1253] Mange on coyotes because they've had dead coyotes that they've shot and killed that we're covering in mange, dude, they don't even look real.

[1254] They look like monsters.

[1255] They're zombie coyotes.

[1256] They look like ghouls.

[1257] They lose all their hair.

[1258] It's a common disease.

[1259] And they have photos.

[1260] There's photos of them online.

[1261] If you look Chupacra, they have a headless one where they chopped its head off.

[1262] And it's a coyote.

[1263] It's a coyote that had horrible mange.

[1264] And it has like almost blue, dark, like bluish, blackish skin.

[1265] And it's no hair.

[1266] And it looks like a monster.

[1267] So that's most likely the origin of the Chubacabra.

[1268] Because you're talking about something that killed goats and shit and killed chickens.

[1269] that's what coyotes do.

[1270] You know, so they have that narrowed down.

[1271] You know, I was at the zoo this weekend, man, and I saw a leopard.

[1272] They had a leopard there, and it was so sad.

[1273] Leopards just pacing around.

[1274] Just doesn't get to jack anything.

[1275] Just pacing.

[1276] Look at all these people staring out.

[1277] Well, they've started to find leopards in America, bro.

[1278] Really?

[1279] Leopards have made their way to Phoenix.

[1280] Wow.

[1281] Yeah, there's leopard sightings in Arizona.

[1282] Wow, that's awesome.

[1283] Yeah, they're coming up through South America and through Mexico and into America.

[1284] Fucking leopards, bro.

[1285] That's pretty good.

[1286] Leopards are no joke.

[1287] Could you imagine if you were like the first American to get jacked by a leopard?

[1288] I would love it.

[1289] Would you?

[1290] They're not going to last too long.

[1291] There'll be leopard hunting season and those motherfuckers will be wiped out.

[1292] Do you think so, man?

[1293] They try to go into Texas?

[1294] Yeah, they're fucked.

[1295] They don't even have to open up a hunting season in Texas.

[1296] They'll just start shooting them.

[1297] The kids will shoot them.

[1298] Who were we talking about the other day that was jogging and they shot something and they had a, and you were more amazed that they had a gun while they were jogging.

[1299] Somebody was telling us a story.

[1300] Who the fuck told us that?

[1301] What was that?

[1302] Oh, shit, that sucks.

[1303] I thought you would know.

[1304] Never mind.

[1305] Didn't they do that in Colorado when you lived there?

[1306] Didn't you jog?

[1307] You had to have a gun, right?

[1308] I carried a gun.

[1309] Yeah, I did.

[1310] They have, like, jogging holsters.

[1311] You know what I mean?

[1312] I carried a gun every time I went hiking.

[1313] Fuck you.

[1314] Like, you jog with a fucking rifle behind you.

[1315] Yeah, dude.

[1316] The last thing you want to do is be out there by yourself with your family and a fucking predator attacks.

[1317] You don't have a gun.

[1318] especially when it's somebody that wants your daughters it's so easy to shoot things you know you have a gun you put it in your pocket I mean that's pretty crazy technology you have this little thing in your pocket that can protect you you know what are the odds of that you gotta use that shit I've been thinking I'm really hard about getting a gun lately me and like there's two of my friends that were both saying like they just called me randomly like hey do you want to get a gun I think it was Duncan or somebody better to have it and not to need it than need it not to have it you can't control all these people in this world living out in the wilderness like you did we talked about this before it's a lot like you know no matter where you go you got to deal with some death either you live in the in the city you got to deal with muggers and rapists or like gang bangers or something or you live way out away from that shit no gang bangers are going out into the wilderness but then you got to deal with mountain lions and crazy shit like that you're going to deal with weird people but at least you can shoot them and you're cool like you can just look at them and go bam and just blast him.

[1319] You can't do that to a mugger until he jumps on you.

[1320] You've got to be careful with bears, because bears aren't hard to kill.

[1321] It's very hard to kill a bear with a pistol.

[1322] You know, if you've got a bear, you're better off shooting into the air.

[1323] What about Bear Mace?

[1324] That shit works, yeah.

[1325] You've got to get him with it, though.

[1326] They've got to be close enough for you to get them with it.

[1327] I didn't even know Bear Mace existed until South Park.

[1328] With Bears, what you got to be careful?

[1329] Oh, was he?

[1330] He thought it was a bounty hunter.

[1331] That was in, you know, the South Park is based on Evergreen.

[1332] That's where those guys grew up.

[1333] That's where I almost lived.

[1334] I want to be living in the mountains of Boulder, but the mountains above Denver, there's one town called Evergreen that I really liked.

[1335] And that's where South Park is.

[1336] That's what it's based on.

[1337] Were they actually from, like, Denver, those dudes?

[1338] Does anybody want to drink?

[1339] I got coconut water.

[1340] Oh, dude, I love a coconut water.

[1341] Have you had these coconut waters?

[1342] Fuck yeah.

[1343] We need to be sponsored by them so they can send us crates of them.

[1344] So if you're listening, O, what is it C2O?

[1345] That's coconut water in the rural.

[1346] Better than that grain box one?

[1347] Oh, totally.

[1348] You know what it tastes like?

[1349] It tastes like you just ate a bowl of fruit loops, and it's the milk from the fruit loops.

[1350] Oh, shit.

[1351] know that's what it tastes like so good yeah it's the shit i'm a big fan of this stuff yeah living in colorado it's just as tricky as cheers cheers salute here's to wine there's got to be there's got to be a coconut water alcoholic beverage right oh there has to be my you go to a ball and say give me coconut in seagrams for my dad's birthday i bought him a crate of uh the shit that you always drink with the mushrooms and stuff what's that called oh kombucha yeah i got my created that in a crate of coconut water.

[1352] He loves the cabucci, but the coconut water he doesn't like, but he uses it for pinacolados.

[1353] He doesn't like this stuff?

[1354] No. Really?

[1355] He says it's weak.

[1356] He says like he needs to add something to it.

[1357] I think when you get old, you lose your taste buds.

[1358] Dude, vodka and coconut water will probably be the shit.

[1359] When you get old, you lose your taste punch?

[1360] Yeah, he started losing taste.

[1361] I wonder if older people are more likely to eat ass then.

[1362] Yes.

[1363] You would think that.

[1364] Fuck no. I would.

[1365] After all the shits they had to endure to smell?

[1366] Do you remember a lot of shit?

[1367] that video we watched a long time ago about rods.

[1368] Do you remember that shit?

[1369] It's a serious fucking video.

[1370] This dude was in Mexico and he was filming all these people, yeah, filming these people skydiving into this cliff.

[1371] There's a cliff that's like a mile down.

[1372] It's crazy.

[1373] It looks like someone took an apple core to the earth and cut this gigantic hole out of the earth and these dudes would base jump off that bitch and skydive and fucking pull a parachute.

[1374] Well, as they're filming it, you see these things flying by the camera, like insane speeds, and they looked like tubes.

[1375] They look like they're like wing tubes.

[1376] This guy dedicated his whole life to fucking tracking these things down and trying to find out what the fuck these things were.

[1377] There were moths.

[1378] It turns out it was just an artifact.

[1379] It was a video camera artifact that when something moved too quickly, too close to the screen, it stretched the image out, so it made the image like it was a flying snake.

[1380] Absolutely.

[1381] So this poor fuck literally made videos, has websites, Roswell, rods.

[1382] Is he still on it he had to give up no he had to have given out let's go to roswellrods .com see this fucking dummy this is the problem man and this guy's making money this guy's making money it doesn't mean UFOs aren't real dude huh just because that guy fucked up no it doesn't mean it's not real but it doesn't mean they're not real but it doesn't mean they are real it's let's like you put like you said it's most likely I'll say that I'll take back I believe and I'll say it's most likely real that better is that better?

[1383] Why?

[1384] Why even have a fucking...

[1385] Because we have...

[1386] This is about opinions.

[1387] Like, what do you, you know, you can't just say, you know, you just can't just be...

[1388] But why, why become attached?

[1389] I'm just saying, based on what I've seen, it's most likely real.

[1390] I think the site's down.

[1391] Fuck yeah, they took that shit down.

[1392] He was videotaping mobs.

[1393] This is the official website for the mysterious frying entities called rods, discovered by Jose Escamilla over Midway and...

[1394] He was a jogger or something, wasn't he?

[1395] I don't know.

[1396] It's just a night.

[1397] A light jogger.

[1398] He's just a dummy.

[1399] He's a dummy that got tricked by some shit.

[1400] You know, I mean, these guys on Monster Quest figured it out in fucking 10 minutes.

[1401] This guy's been trying to, yeah, kid not fine, Roswellrodden .com.

[1402] You're done, son.

[1403] It doesn't exist.

[1404] It doesn't exist anymore.

[1405] This guy fucking spent his whole life.

[1406] Dude, there needs to be a documentary on his shit, because you know he videotape, like, everything, right?

[1407] They need to get that footage, and then get the footage of him now.

[1408] He's probably penniless and insane somewhere.

[1409] I wonder how many emails he gets by Mississippi.

[1410] steak like I heard you videotape a lot of rods well he actually had another one that he was gay rods there's a gay rods weren't there was another one that he uh was was chasing down another crazy thing that didn't seem to make any sense let me let me type pussycats his name because he had like another thing uh that was like another theory about something else and then someone on the message board going wait a minute isn't that the rods guy and that's who he is from now on I uh I like pussy Oh, lunar rising.

[1411] Oh, here he goes.

[1412] He's got some shit about the moon.

[1413] He changed?

[1414] Yeah, he thinks there's fucking anomalies on the moon now.

[1415] Okay, here he goes.

[1416] The true color of the moon.

[1417] For over 50 years, we have been told and convinced that the moon is nothing more than a black and white, desolate rock with moon dust and craters.

[1418] The thousands of photos released to the public have always presented a black and white moon.

[1419] Even with the most recent Hubble photographs of the moon are black and white, and as it continues to perpetuate the lie that, end quote, that the moon is black and white.

[1420] This motherfucker is crazy.

[1421] Same dude from rods?

[1422] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1423] And he's like...

[1424] Damn, he switched over.

[1425] Snake oil.

[1426] He's got a bunch of spots that he says, oh, my God, this is hilarious.

[1427] Does he believe that the moon landing was a hoax?

[1428] Oh, no. What he's showing is craters, and he believes that these craters are different alien artifacts, and these craters, like, oh, they're such a stretch.

[1429] Like, the photos are such a stretch.

[1430] He's, like, thinks that these structures are artificial.

[1431] It's like fucking craters, man. Shit got smashed by rocks from space.

[1432] You know, sometimes little shapes come out of that.

[1433] You fucking dummy.

[1434] Did you see the moon on Conan's set last night on his first episode?

[1435] No, how was the first episode?

[1436] Did you watch it?

[1437] Yeah, it felt really cheap.

[1438] Like, you know how you watch, like, the NBC show?

[1439] It felt like the furniture was high quality.

[1440] It felt like those were real plants behind them.

[1441] It felt like a good backdrop.

[1442] This felt like they got everything at fucking, I don't know, Sears outlet, you know.

[1443] Really?

[1444] Yeah.

[1445] And the background was this horrible blue painting that just looked really cheap and generic.

[1446] And then there was this moon in the middle of it that was kind of cool.

[1447] And I guess it moves.

[1448] But it just looked like the whole thing looked like low budget.

[1449] Was it the real moon or a fake moon?

[1450] No, fake moon.

[1451] Totally fake moon.

[1452] But it just looked really low budget.

[1453] I don't know.

[1454] It was okay.

[1455] He had Seth Rogan on last night.

[1456] Listen how gay you are.

[1457] You're looking at the set.

[1458] The set was terrible.

[1459] No, no, no. I mean, he's out of control.

[1460] I was a fan of the show.

[1461] I was a real fan of the show.

[1462] All I could say was it a real moon or a fake moon.

[1463] I was like, I couldn't comment on the furniture.

[1464] I was a real fan of the show.

[1465] And like a lot of the reviewers of that, you know, the like newspapers and stuff that reviewed it, you know, they made up an interesting point.

[1466] It's like, why are you focusing like on a 10th variation of the tonight show, you know?

[1467] Like you're not being your own show.

[1468] You're being like the tonight show in a version of the tonight show.

[1469] You have this new opportunity.

[1470] Why don't you fucking throw that desk out a window and fucking do something, you know?

[1471] Yeah.

[1472] People like that desk.

[1473] Isn't that funny that you like having people on?

[1474] Isn't it better to do it like this?

[1475] We just like, if we were here, I mean, we have a table so we have our laptops and shit in front of us.

[1476] We do have kind of a desk, though.

[1477] Yeah, but that's to put shit on.

[1478] Yeah, they don't see the desk.

[1479] They don't see the desk.

[1480] There's always a pencil and a piece of paper, no?

[1481] Yeah, but I mean, our viewers don't see the desk.

[1482] Well, I mean, I guess it's cool that he has notes and everything.

[1483] But they could put that on a teleprompter.

[1484] I think there's some security to the desk because it's been there forever.

[1485] Just because you get boners when Pamela Anderson from 10 years ago is on.

[1486] Yeah, it doesn't look cool if you're just in a chair.

[1487] You got nervous when you're saying Pamela.

[1488] I was thinking about her being in front of you.

[1489] Cool, Pamela.

[1490] How about they just sit there on stage, no desk, and they're on a big lazy boy?

[1491] Why don't they just show them?

[1492] And they got a headset on and they're just like, chill.

[1493] You don't want to be too lazy, though, because the conversation won't be interesting.

[1494] Why don't Conan just have a cool house and they invite some cool people over, you know, and just hang out?

[1495] That's actually good idea.

[1496] Get some good idea.

[1497] Get some good camera.

[1498] had some good quality behind it but just have Conan with his little beard going hey check out my garage just hang out in the garage and talk about your movie what's your movie well the problem is that a lot of people like to be in the audience and they like to have an audience there it makes the comedy play up 200 people are sad invite the 200 people via Skype that's cool right that'll work you know John Heffron's doing like comedy shows through Skype something like Skype it's a new form of video conference technology but he sits in a room and there's all these screens around him And he's, like, performing for all these other people that are in the room with them.

[1499] Yeah, it's pretty cool shit.

[1500] It's actually...

[1501] It's incredible.

[1502] I hope that catches them.

[1503] Not in front of an audience?

[1504] No, he's doing some corporate gigs where he does them on a desk.

[1505] And the desk, there's, like, there's cameras that come at him.

[1506] Can you hear laughter?

[1507] Yes, can hear everything.

[1508] They're all connected.

[1509] Everyone's conference called up.

[1510] And it's like, you know, 50, 100 people in there.

[1511] How crazy...

[1512] I mean, he's sitting there by himself in front of a laptop, and then there could be fucking the whole world listening.

[1513] and then you could hear all their laughter.

[1514] Can you imagine that?

[1515] Like you have a stereo system and it's...

[1516] Well, he said it's really crazy because you could see, when you set it up, you can see all these people in front of you.

[1517] Like you see them sitting like there's not just one screen.

[1518] There's like a dozen screens in front of them and he sees all these people in front of them.

[1519] So it's almost like an audience.

[1520] Whoa.

[1521] Yeah, it's crazy.

[1522] Audience at the shower ring convention.

[1523] Yeah, man, I'm not real interested in talk shows.

[1524] You know, like when I heard about it, I was like, you know, I'm not going to really.

[1525] watch it.

[1526] It's like a podcast.

[1527] Yeah, but it's not because it's seven minutes and all they're doing is talking about their movies.

[1528] They're talking about their, I mean, how often is someone have a really interesting story?

[1529] It's not usually.

[1530] Most of the time they're just pimping their shit.

[1531] They'll have a little, you know, so what's been going on?

[1532] Oh, we recently had our second baby.

[1533] See, to me it's good because you lay in bed and you're kind of like watching the news kind of, you know, like it's like the news, but you know, mixed with humor.

[1534] Right.

[1535] So it's kind of more just like it's, like I wouldn't watch it if it was like 8 p .m. Right.

[1536] I mean, I like them.

[1537] I mean, they're okay, but I don't go out of my way to see him.

[1538] I prefer the John Stewart show, honestly.

[1539] I think that the daily show, the way he does it, is the best way.

[1540] He has a lot of shit that he fucks around with.

[1541] Like his monologues and his like making fun of things in the news, even though it's all political for the most part, I think he hits the mark more than anybody.

[1542] He makes me laugh out loud more than anybody.

[1543] Did you guys already talk about the Galpha Gonacus weed smoking incident on the John Stewart show?

[1544] No, no, we didn't.

[1545] Do you know what happened?

[1546] Yeah, yeah, he smoked pot.

[1547] He pulled out a joint.

[1548] It was actually the Bill Marshall.

[1549] Oh, it was?

[1550] Yeah.

[1551] It wasn't John Stewart?

[1552] No. Okay, I was off.

[1553] Real time.

[1554] But, you know, and then the executive said that it wasn't real pot, that it was like the prop.

[1555] Okay.

[1556] They had to say it.

[1557] Yeah, but why do they have to say it?

[1558] Why do they have to say it's not real?

[1559] It's like, the kids.

[1560] This is the first podcast we've done since Proposition 9 did not pass.

[1561] 19, rather, did not pass.

[1562] You know, and so.

[1563] there's a lot of fucking yeah there's a lot of shit going on right now in this country there's a lot of shit going on with pot and disinformation and people thinking that somehow or another if you you have pot and it's more accessible than it is now that the world's going to fall apart it's sad i never thought when i was a little kid that we'd be here in now 2010 and this would still be up for debate yeah but you also know that it's never going to it's not going to pass that easily unless it's like an iphone app one single button all these people instead of having to register and then go get fucking take off work or go towards your lunch and vote you have to do that otherwise it'll be too much fraud yeah but you know in like 10 years they're going to figure it out it's going to be on your fucking pagers maybe but maybe there's probably uh some incentive to keep it complicated because the more complicated the less people vote and the more it's political aficionados that are in the mix instead of just the casual person i knew that was going to happen though did you i wasn't shocked at all that was just like gay marriage you know you thought that was going to pass but then you know what's shocking to me man when the polls are right because i'm like how they you know who fuck answers polls you know do you ever answered a poll polls like online yeah or if anybody called you up and you talk to them or yeah yeah all the time i do polls do you really yeah like if you're on TMZ and it's like there's you know melkipson's butt look fat yes or no i'm going to take the extra click to see no just to see what the the answers are really yeah don't you no first of those aren't real polls but What I mean about a poll is like you go somewhere and it's a multiple page thing.

[1564] We're to ask you a bunch of questions.

[1565] I don't do that much.

[1566] Or even a few questions.

[1567] Like 10 questions.

[1568] Sometimes.

[1569] Like, you know, like once in a while, like if a product that I really like that you get that spam email would like, please answer 10 questions for us.

[1570] Do you really?

[1571] If it's a company I like, I'll give them.

[1572] I'll take the extra minute.

[1573] Damn.

[1574] Why not?

[1575] Why not?

[1576] Why not?

[1577] Not you.

[1578] Anything I could do to help the products that I like?

[1579] You know, like if it's like, whatever, Apple.

[1580] Well, you do do that.

[1581] you make little videos and shit when you like a product.

[1582] Yeah.

[1583] The last poll I took was like, who's the best submission artist in MMA?

[1584] Shiniyoki, B .J. Penn. Oh, an M .M .A. Yeah.

[1585] Well, Marcel's not really an M .A. right?

[1586] He did M .M .A. once.

[1587] Is he done, though?

[1588] Probably.

[1589] Yeah.

[1590] He's making so much money in Jiu -Jitsu.

[1591] He doesn't need to go through all that shit.

[1592] He's making a teaching.

[1593] Yeah, dude.

[1594] His website, man. Yeah?

[1595] God.

[1596] Damn.

[1597] He charges 30 bucks a month to get.

[1598] his techniques.

[1599] Yeah.

[1600] That's a lot of fucking extra thousands a month.

[1601] That dude who set it up, that chess master, Joe, I think his last name is Waitskin.

[1602] I don't remember exactly how to pronounce his name.

[1603] Bobby Fisher?

[1604] Yeah.

[1605] He's the one from that, the video, searching for Bobby Fischer at the movie.

[1606] It was all based on him.

[1607] And he was a child chess prodigy, and now he's transferred that into becoming a jujitsu guy.

[1608] He loves jujitsu, and he treats it just like chess, whereas a bunch of openings and a bunch of different counters and you have some broken down.

[1609] So he has the website really like systematically organized the way you would organize like chess practice.

[1610] So it's pretty fucking interesting.

[1611] You know, that's someone who's a chess genius.

[1612] I mean, that kind of a mind, that kind of a, like you know, like a retardation.

[1613] It's not retardation.

[1614] Strategic.

[1615] That kind of a strategic mindset applied to Jiu -Jitsu.

[1616] It's kind of interesting.

[1617] I bet, I mean, if you were making free money, just like 20K a month, which is probably in the area.

[1618] Doing nothing, why would you do MMA?

[1619] That money's just flowing the fuck in.

[1620] He doesn't want to do it.

[1621] You know what I mean?

[1622] He doesn't need to.

[1623] He can just stick to being the greatest jiu -jitsu player of all time.

[1624] Well, I would really love to see just professional jiu -jitsu because I've always said that, you know, one of the best things about jiu -jitsu, is you don't have any guilt.

[1625] Even though you're watching dudes get jacked, and even if you jack a guy, there's no guilt.

[1626] It's because, like, when you knock somebody out or you hurt somebody or even you watch someone get knocked out, at least part of my brain is like, that guy just got fucked up.

[1627] You know, there's like a part of that guy that's not going to be the same again.

[1628] And like he got hit by a car or something.

[1629] Yeah, yeah.

[1630] I mean, someone gets really fucking head kicked.

[1631] When Granzaga crocop, when he head kicked crocop and knocked him out, I remember I had to interview Crocob afterwards, and he was just, you know, it really was a dumb idea to interview him.

[1632] I should have probably protested.

[1633] But we always interviewed the winner and the loser and he was up and they said, okay, interview the loser.

[1634] So I just automatically went to it.

[1635] But as I was talking to him, I'm like, this poor guy should not be getting interviewed right now.

[1636] This guy just, you know, he just got knocked unconscious.

[1637] He's not exactly sure what happened.

[1638] And I'm asking him questions.

[1639] You know, when you see something like that, man, you go, wow, there's a, there's a fucking price.

[1640] But Jiu -Jitsu never feels like there's a price.

[1641] You know, guys get jacked.

[1642] And even if they get hurt, like, he's going to be okay.

[1643] Most of the time, 99 % of that time.

[1644] But Marcella Garcia, man, if he could just do professional Jiu -Jitsu, if they could have, like, a guy like that, you could have professional Jiu -Jitsu and even put it on TV and it would be exciting because he'd be just catching people all the time.

[1645] There's so many good guys now.

[1646] I mean, Marcelo's still the king, but there's so many guys out there still competing, like Ryan Hall and Jeff Glover and all those new Brazilians busting out.

[1647] Raphael Mendez, Cobrina, Rafael Levato.

[1648] There's so many guys that are good at No Gee.

[1649] It should be in the Olympics right away.

[1650] I mean, there's no reason why Nogi Jiu -Jitsu shouldn't be in the Olympics.

[1651] Yeah, Guy is a little too slow.

[1652] That's not going to work.

[1653] people to death.

[1654] Yeah, that boars me. You have that funny story about going to watch with John Jack.

[1655] Yeah, that's one, that's, I was always the guy in class that asked the questions about yanking on collars and yanking on sleeves and asking, like, how is that going to translate in MMA?

[1656] I mean, because I was embarrassed.

[1657] When I first started doing jiu -jitsu, I would tell guys, check, check out this next fight.

[1658] This guy's a jiu -jitsu guy.

[1659] He's going to fuck him up.

[1660] He's going to jack him.

[1661] And the first fight that I got really disappointed with was Bustamante against Bolander.

[1662] I love Busta Manta to death.

[1663] He's still one of my all -time favorite fighters, but I couldn't believe that he couldn't finish him off his back.

[1664] It was just baffled me. I kept saying, okay, he's going to get him right now.

[1665] He's going to get him right.

[1666] He's just setting him up.

[1667] He's going to get him.

[1668] And then it didn't happen.

[1669] And I asked Sean Jock, I'm like, what's going on with, how come we never see sweeps and finishes off, you know, rarely, off from the bottom.

[1670] You never see sweeps and finishes at the same rate as you do at the Mundiales.

[1671] At the Mundiales are sweeping, they're finishing off their back.

[1672] Like, I mean, it's incredible how much action there is, like, off your back, but not an MMA.

[1673] It was different, so.

[1674] It's because they don't have the ghee to hold on to.

[1675] Yeah, well, if you practice setting up all your submissions and sweeps yanking and pulling on someone's outfit, and that's actually part of the sweep, you take that out.

[1676] And then you also add strikes, man, it just, it's a whole different game.

[1677] So, you know, what was the question?

[1678] How did we get this far?

[1679] We were talking about John Jock watching in the matches with you, and you guys were both saying how boring it was.

[1680] Oh, yes, yes.

[1681] So I always, immediately I was questioning the geek going, man, this could be a problem.

[1682] This is making Jiu -Jitsu look bad.

[1683] Like, for me, it was like, how does Jiu -Jitsu look in MMA?

[1684] And then when I went to the Mondials in 2000 as a purple belt with Jean -Jacques, and we're watching the black belts, and like, I can't even keep my eyes open.

[1685] It's just so, it just, most of the matches weren't boring.

[1686] There were some exciting matches, and there still are some, there's a lot of exciting matches with the Ghee but generally I mean I was sitting there trying to keep my eyes open and John Jock looked over him and goes man this is so boring he wanted to leave and right there that struck him like damn one of the fucking baddest jujitsu players of all time my master is bored with watching black belts play Tuggle War in the Gie that's when I thought whoa man the Gie is a problem and for me the reason why I start started teaching without the ghee, wasn't to separate myself from the Brazilian Jiu -Jitsu community.

[1687] It wasn't, I wasn't me going, fuck you, you know, you guys with the ghee.

[1688] I took off the Ghii for Jiu -Jitsu.

[1689] I did this shit for Jiu -Jitsu, and you know, that's the one thing I want everyone to understand, especially the Brazilians that hate me, is I did this for Jiu -Jitsu.

[1690] The most important thing for me is how Jiu -Jitsu looks in M -M -A, and I feel that the Ghi is a problem for M -M -A.

[1691] So I decided when I opened up a school, I want to try to bring jiu -jitsu back.

[1692] I'm going to do whatever I can personally, whatever I can do, to bring Jiu -Jitsu back in M -M -A.

[1693] Well, you did it also because you think that's the most effective way to do it in M -M -A.

[1694] Yes, no, of course.

[1695] Of course.

[1696] I thought it was the most effective way, and I'm doing it for Jiu -Jitsu.

[1697] I feel that if everyone lost the ghee, like 10 years ago, and just focused on no -gee submissions, setting up everything in the clinch, setting everything up with overhooks, under -hooks, and head -of -control, as opposed to setting everything up with yanking and pulling collars and sleeves, If we would have started everybody, 10 years ago, we just killed the ghee.

[1698] If Helio would have said, no more ghee, we need to come back, we need to dominate MMA again, man, the world would be a different place.

[1699] We would see a million, we would see a hundred Shania Ayokies, a hundred Javier Vasquez.

[1700] Did you see what Ryan Hall said recently?

[1701] He had a thing about how he doesn't play guard anymore that all he's concerned with now is if he winds up on bottom, is sweeping, getting on top to finish.

[1702] That's beautiful if you can do it, but what about the guys you can't sweep?

[1703] Yeah, he's saying that.

[1704] you can't, he's saying that you can't rely on your guard anymore.

[1705] Well, you can't rely on sweeps all the time either.

[1706] But you're going to be on your back regardless, and if you could sweep them, most of my game is all about sweeps.

[1707] I'm all about sweeping and getting on top.

[1708] But you have to prepare for the worst case scenario, a guy that puts it on your back and you can't sweep them.

[1709] You better have a wicked finishing game off your back as well.

[1710] You've got to have both.

[1711] You can't finish everybody from your back, and you can't sweep everybody.

[1712] But if a dude stuffs all your sweeps and he stuffs all your finishes, he's just better than you.

[1713] That's it, you know.

[1714] But you've got to have as much game as possible.

[1715] I'm amazed if somebody hasn't stepped up and tried to make a professional Jiu -Jitsu League.

[1716] You know, I know Rico Chikorelli did that thing for a little bit, but, you know, he was having a hard time with it.

[1717] But I think it's more popular now than it was then.

[1718] Well, the problem with the Rico Chipperelli promotion, which was Professional Submission League, PSL, great concept.

[1719] He just had like eight super fight matches, man. He had Marcello in there against Jake Shields.

[1720] He had Marcello in there against Cameron Earl.

[1721] He was, but he was the only way he thought, thought he could make it work and sell it to a network or something, even like ESPN or something, was to have Randy Couture as the main event.

[1722] And Randy Couture originally, he retired a few years ago, and he wasn't planning on doing MMA anymore, but his plan was just to stay in the mix competitively and do submission grappling.

[1723] So Rico jumped on and said, hey, dude, you're going to be the poster boy to this.

[1724] You're going to blow this up.

[1725] But then when he decided to go back to MMA, he was left without a poster child.

[1726] And I mean, I think I think he could, make it successful with the guys we have nowadays, like make Marcelo Garcia the poster child and then bring in, you know, Cobrina, bringing Raphael Mendez, bringing Brailleo Estima, bringing, again, Jeff Glover, Ryan Hall, Javi Vasquez, all these guys that, you know, Harvey's back in the mix in MMA now, but I think you could do it now.

[1727] I don't think you need Randy Couture.

[1728] I don't think so.

[1729] What they really need is they need to get some sort of a network behind it, someone willing to step up and take a chance with it.

[1730] But it's hard, man. Look at Bellator, I mean, Belator's on, like, Fox Sports Net, you know what I'm saying?

[1731] It's like they have a hard time getting a network where people are going to pay attention to it.

[1732] If you have Jiu -Jitsu on Fox Sports Net, it's going to be really tough, you know, there's not a lot of people that are, like, focused on that.

[1733] If you get it on ESPN, on the other hand, and made a big deal.

[1734] The difference between submission grappling and MMA, the advantage, it could be a small advantage in some people's eyes, but people will get into it because anybody can actually practice it.

[1735] you can go to your local jiu -jitsu school and you actually can get involved.

[1736] So it has the potential is there.

[1737] Of course, it's not, it'll never be as exciting as dudes smashing skulls and all that kind of stuff.

[1738] But submission grappling with the right guys can be very, very exciting.

[1739] And I think it could, I think it could be successful.

[1740] They got dogs catching frisbee's at 1 .30 in the morning.

[1741] You can throw up some no -gi jiu -jitsu up there for sure.

[1742] They got the, I mean, pool is huge.

[1743] I mean, pool is on TV all the time.

[1744] It's not huge at all.

[1745] But it's on TV, though.

[1746] Starving a death, man. Yeah, but it's on TV.

[1747] Barely.

[1748] It's barely on TV.

[1749] A lot of those matches that you watch are old matches.

[1750] The women have some on ESPN, but there's no money in it.

[1751] No one's making any money.

[1752] They have to go overseas to make the real money.

[1753] There's a couple tournaments, like the U .S. Open.

[1754] You win that.

[1755] You win $40 ,000.

[1756] You got to play for a week, and that's only the winner.

[1757] You know, you get down to, like, the other people.

[1758] There's not much money.

[1759] Okay, okay.

[1760] There's not much money in it, but it's still on the air.

[1761] I could see submission grappling like that on the air and no one's really making that much money except for the top guys but then you got like poker that's making money right yeah who watches fucking poker you know what the thing about poker is man the thing about poker is you watch poker I love I'm sorry I didn't mean about poker is that you could watch and you could know what we all have like when you're watching at home you can't affect the outcome of the game so you could see like if you had two aces you had an ace and a king you could see without you seeing what he had the people watching could see what he had so they know everyone is in on it so how's this going to play out and they love the fact what if baseball was like that where you knew what the pitcher was going to throw like right before they let you know that's interesting that's interesting hmm because if they let you know a second before you throw how could he ever get to him how could he get to him that quick and if he's looking somewhere else he's keeping his eye it would fuck him up that's a good idea like right away boom fast up yeah if you had like the pitcher had like a little thing on his mouth you know what it would have to be someone who could read the signs because the catcher giving those signs.

[1762] Or just do it at like a 20 second delay.

[1763] Does the catcher give those signs or the pitcher give those signs?

[1764] Who decides what gets thrown?

[1765] The catcher.

[1766] The pitcher can say, no, fucking don't throw him some heat, right?

[1767] The pitcher has, he's like the executive producer and the fucking catcher's the producer.

[1768] What kind of like bitchy arguments?

[1769] You can, totally.

[1770] You can, um, you see him going, no, dude, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Basically, the catcher's trying to get them to agree.

[1771] Like, okay, what are we going to do?

[1772] It's up to you, but you want to throw this?

[1773] I'm suggesting this.

[1774] But you could do that with full.

[1775] football too like right before the snap boom it's going to be a run or something that like is one of the hardest things about putting anything together is getting two people to agree on what should be done you know like if you have an executive producer and you have the the talent and they're together and they're trying to figure out how to work things out man that's a hard fucking thing to come together on you'd have to put it on a 10 second delay then that would ensure that no one for the baseball thing yeah if there's no uh you've you've had that with music though right you've had that with music where dudes are trying to fuck with and change your shit and you didn't like it remember that executive producer you were working with for a while?

[1776] Which one?

[1777] The guy down in San Diego.

[1778] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1779] Remember you wanted to do all this and do all that?

[1780] No, that wasn't going to worry.

[1781] You know, all of a sudden, you're like, what the fuck?

[1782] Exactly, it happens all the time.

[1783] Yeah.

[1784] I've had it happen with everything I've ever done.

[1785] Everything I've ever done that has to do with creativity that involves other people.

[1786] They all want to don't do this.

[1787] I am open to hear shit.

[1788] I've always been that way.

[1789] And every band that I've been in, the rule has always been the same.

[1790] There's five of us.

[1791] I'm 22 years old.

[1792] Everyone's like in their early 20s.

[1793] And like, anybody can run.

[1794] but we all have to like it.

[1795] Like if you want to come up with something, okay, we all have to like it because when you're on stage, man, what's most important, you would rather play someone else's good shit than you're a bad shit.

[1796] You don't want, no one wants to go on stage and the crowd's going, what the fuck is this?

[1797] And no one's like it and the other guys are going to talk behind their back like, dude, I don't want to do this song anymore.

[1798] That's the last thing you want.

[1799] You want to avoid that.

[1800] It's, you know what I mean?

[1801] So what ends up happening is real quick, you end up everyone gravitating to the guy who's putting together the best shit.

[1802] Right.

[1803] And there's always that band where you know that they're just giving this fucking drummer a bone and letting him sing right now.

[1804] You know, there's always a few songs like that, right?

[1805] Oh, dude.

[1806] The perfect example is Peter Chris from Kiss.

[1807] He co -wrote a song.

[1808] He thinks he wrote Beth, but really Bob Ezrin wrote it and he was a famous producer.

[1809] And so it says Peter Chris and Bob Ezren.

[1810] That was the biggest kiss song to date.

[1811] Beth was huge.

[1812] It was like a ballad.

[1813] There was the first one that ever, I was a huge Kiss fan.

[1814] That was the first one that made it on the radio.

[1815] yeah that was massive beth is fucking huge so peter chris got a big head goes i want to leave kiss you guys are letting me only write one song i want to write more songs he goes i'm gonna make a solo album and paul stanley goes do do do do do do do we'll all make solo albums and we'll put them together but let's not break up make a solo album that's cool we'll all make a solo album so they all right he's known for the worst kiss album ever no kiss fan and he's known for the worst kiss album ever no kiss fan he's who wanted to leave to make the soul was not only the worst of the solo album ever he made he's known for the worst kiss album ever no kiss fan has ever said they like that album.

[1816] Really?

[1817] It's that bad.

[1818] It's that bad.

[1819] It's really bad, dude.

[1820] It's really, really, really bad.

[1821] So he's not in the band anymore, but there's a fake Peter Chris now?

[1822] The way they did it, originally when the Peter and Ace left, they replaced them with new characters.

[1823] Like Eric Foxx came on to replace Peter Chris as the Fox.

[1824] Vinnie Vincent came on to replace Ace really as the Egyptian god or something.

[1825] But then they finally took the makeup off.

[1826] They went like 10, 15 years without makeup.

[1827] And then when they put the makeup back, they got.

[1828] got Peter and Ace the original guys back.

[1829] They did a couple reunion tours and the exact same thing happened.

[1830] Peter fucked up, Ace fucked up, so they kicked him out.

[1831] But this time...

[1832] What happened to the Fox?

[1833] Where did that guy go?

[1834] He died, actually.

[1835] But when they did the reunion tour, you got to bring back the original guys because that was two other guys that were...

[1836] Check out this picture.

[1837] It's Ace freely tattooed on this guy's side.

[1838] He was a bartender or a server at the Cap City Comedy Club.

[1839] That's awesome.

[1840] And he ran it.

[1841] Ace Freel and he was drunk and he was talking all the shit to Ace Freely and Ace Freely goes, fuck you kid.

[1842] So he gets Ace Freely's picture tattooed on him with Fuck You Kid Let's put it up here That's amazing.

[1843] I'll put it on my Twitter later today But he got this fucking tattoo of Ace Freelie tattooed His whole side of his body Is permanently a big picture of a shitty one too Of Ace Freely where it says fuck you kid Underneath it's incredible So when they decided to do the reunion They got the original guys, Ace and Peter.

[1844] It's been like 15 years.

[1845] Of course they wanted to do.

[1846] They realized, fuck, we fucked up.

[1847] God damn it, why do we leave kids?

[1848] And get kicked out at the same time.

[1849] They both got back in.

[1850] The reunion tours were massive.

[1851] They did a couple.

[1852] And then Peter started fucking up and Ace started fucking up somehow.

[1853] They left.

[1854] So instead of getting new guys with new characters, they got new guys to play Ace and Peter.

[1855] Wow.

[1856] And they introduced the guys and say as.

[1857] No, they never did that.

[1858] They never did that.

[1859] No, they didn't have to go that.

[1860] No, they never pretended like that was the real ace and that was the real Peter.

[1861] Maybe they did the first few shows.

[1862] Maybe they tried to do some shenanigans.

[1863] No, I'm not saying they did shenanigans.

[1864] I said, you know, and now starring as bang, and they say the guy's name.

[1865] I don't know.

[1866] They've never said, no, they said the real guy's name.

[1867] Because what happened is when they did the reunion tour, Eric Singer, the non -make -up kiss drummer, and Bruce Kulik, the non -make -kiss guitar player, they got left in the behind.

[1868] We're going to do a reunion tour and blow this shit up.

[1869] this non -makeup band ain't happening but but when peter left they got the non -makeup dude eric singer to play peter whoa so he came in and he didn't he always said he was eric singer but they know that most a lot of the fans that are coming they don't even know the difference oh man i like kiss we when i was a kid i'm gonna check out kids they're fucking cool man rock and roll all night they have no idea they realize they never hide it they never deny it but they know that it doesn't really matter they're just gonna come up we're gonna say that's eric singer we're gonna say that's Tommy Thayer playing Ace, but most of the people aren't even going to notice.

[1870] What was the deal with Ace Freely and Peter Chris?

[1871] Why couldn't they get it together?

[1872] The exact same thing.

[1873] Drugs?

[1874] And alcohol.

[1875] And Peter, and they're getting all too, Peter.

[1876] Peter was not a very good drummer back when he practiced a lot.

[1877] And when you, I mean, it's like Jiu -Jitsu, man. You don't fucking keep practicing.

[1878] You lose your chops.

[1879] A drummer has to be like a fucking machine literally on time.

[1880] And Peter, and Paul and Gene have never stopped touring.

[1881] They never stopped putting out albums.

[1882] Those guys are machines.

[1883] They could sing their ass off, and they could play.

[1884] I mean, Paul is unconscious playing and singing.

[1885] And Gene.

[1886] He's one of the most underrated bass players ever.

[1887] He can sing fucking harmonies like the Beatles.

[1888] Paul and Gene are machines, bro.

[1889] So what they got, they decided to replace Eric Singer, the non -makeup kiss guy.

[1890] They brought him in.

[1891] They put Peter Chris makeup on him.

[1892] And he can sing.

[1893] Eric Singer can sing it He can play his ass off He's an amazing drummer And he could sing So they go We're gonna bring this guy back Does he sing Beth now This yes This is this is They did a reality show You know They did a The success The Gene Simmons show So successful That they ended up doing And they would show Spots of Kiss During the Jean Simmons Realty show But then they kind of did A spin off Why don't we just follow kiss So the reality show is all Fucking fake You know what I mean So they had to make Even the ones that are real The camera The facial reactions they have like one camera there and how are they getting how are they panning to all these facial reactions they're like storing these facial reactions from one you know from two weeks ago there's a good one a perplexed look that's how they do it different shirts on and shit yeah that's how fake it is so with the jeans with the kiss reality show there's like a mini series reality show or it might be an ongoing show they have to create some drama so what they're following around and Eric Singer who's dressed like Peter it's like Jean can I do Beth for the next show and then Gene's all you know I promise Peter that we wouldn't do Beth, I don't know.

[1894] And like, Eric's like, come on, dude, let me do Beth.

[1895] So then Eric Singer disappears.

[1896] They're about to do a show.

[1897] Where's Eric Singer?

[1898] We started an hour.

[1899] No one's been able to find him.

[1900] All, they're all looking for Edgar Singer.

[1901] He's like, fuck it, let's get the Rody in, get him in makeup.

[1902] We're going to get, we're just going to do the show without him.

[1903] We're going to get the Rody to do it.

[1904] They never show the Rody putting on makeup or anything getting ready.

[1905] They were just like, oh, man. And then all of a sudden Eric shows up backstage.

[1906] He's all dressed up in makeup.

[1907] And he goes, they're going on stage.

[1908] And he looks over to Peter, goes, or to Paul Stanley, is Gene going to let me do Beth or not?

[1909] And Paul goes, bro, just get up on stage, man. I don't think so.

[1910] Something like that.

[1911] It's just all ridiculous, dude.

[1912] Fake drama, and then he sings it.

[1913] I don't, I didn't even get that far.

[1914] It was ridiculous.

[1915] It was ridiculous, man. Having them argue backstage about singing Beth.

[1916] Ugh.

[1917] Is there a way to do a reality show and not have fake shit?

[1918] Yeah, called no editing allowed.

[1919] It's just one camera.

[1920] but it might not be interesting you gotta have three cameras you know to some people I'd rather watch an hour that I know it's 100 % real than an hour that's like he said half just chopped up to make it sellable that shit insults the fuck out of me when I watch like keeping up with the Kardashians and I see Bruce Jenner running around town trying to fucking meet a deadline or something stupid where I know it's not real I'm like come on man the fake show on my shit is done just all out of fun man we want it fake we do those fake Like, we do, we're storing facial reactions and stuff from people and just putting them out.

[1921] We're having fun with it.

[1922] It's like all fake.

[1923] What he's talking about is 10th Planet Jiujitsu .com.

[1924] He's got a thing called mastering the system.

[1925] And it's like a fake jiu -jitsu reality show.

[1926] Yeah.

[1927] But there's real, real techniques in there.

[1928] Real techniques, but we just have fun.

[1929] Mixed in with.

[1930] Yeah, shenanigans.

[1931] That's hilarious.

[1932] Have you, is the whole Hanato thing?

[1933] What does the deal with that?

[1934] Oh, the latest episode?

[1935] episode that just went up.

[1936] He chokes me out.

[1937] We get in a fight and he chokes me out and he puts me out and he leaves me. Have people figured out what's going on yet?

[1938] Or do people think it's...

[1939] Most people know it's fake, but there's a small percentage.

[1940] Like, I just got...

[1941] A forum member from the day one, this girl emailed me yesterday.

[1942] I said, you know, I respect you to death and all that, but I have to know once and for all.

[1943] Is the Hanopo thing real?

[1944] She goes, I just got to know it.

[1945] Either way, if it's real, it's real, it's cool.

[1946] But if it's fake, just let me know.

[1947] I just don't know.

[1948] Like, wow, you don't know.

[1949] You know, there's so much evidence.

[1950] People are piecing together.

[1951] They're taking footage of Rundra Sonda, days of our lives.

[1952] They're putting it on the form, and I just keep deleting it.

[1953] Any evidence, I just delete.

[1954] It's a tricky thing, man, when people fake it.

[1955] When people fake anything.

[1956] You know, that video I just saw the other day of Alan Deltcher punking you.

[1957] You ever see that video?

[1958] Yes.

[1959] After you punked him.

[1960] You haven't seen it?

[1961] You haven't seen it?

[1962] There's a video of you punking him at your school.

[1963] And then he punks you.

[1964] Remember, remember that?

[1965] That was Columbus, Philadelphia.

[1966] Somewhere, somewhere.

[1967] But he got you.

[1968] I knew it right away.

[1969] I was like, no fucking way.

[1970] I just thought he was crazy.

[1971] I was going, I wasn't hearing what he was saying.

[1972] I was just going, ooh.

[1973] Because I always thought, like, the first time I ever met Alan Belcher, it was after an awesome victory.

[1974] I talked to him a little bit and invited him to my school.

[1975] I thought he was like a, I thought, man, this guy can snap.

[1976] He would seem like a snapper.

[1977] Like, he would just, like, I seen.

[1978] I'm like, damn, I'm like a little scared of him.

[1979] I didn't really know.

[1980] It just, in the first time we met, he had just beat someone's ass.

[1981] His lip was all fucked up, and it was quivering.

[1982] He had a cut, live, and it was quivering.

[1983] And I'm like, man, I'm like, dude, I would love to show you some, you know, rubber guard shit, you know, and come on down in the gym.

[1984] And for a second, I thought, man, this guy, he could snap on me. He ended up being a super fucking sweetheart.

[1985] He's totally cool.

[1986] I love Alan Belcher.

[1987] But when he tried to punk me, what was the premise of it?

[1988] I don't remember.

[1989] I don't remember.

[1990] but I remember as soon as it started coming as soon as it happened he was screaming I turned to the camera and went no like he was trying to fight you no no no what was he saying I was on the outside I was in the outside you and you were trying to keep him for getting mad about something he was I think he was going to start a fight with a bouncer or something he was getting nuts with a bouncer and I was going oh no fuck we got a crazy motherfucker on her head he's going to fight a bouncer right now that is a problem if you if you hang out with a certain number of MMA fighters there's a few you know always wanted to that's a loose cannon.

[1991] You never know.

[1992] A couple of drinks getting him, shaking him.

[1993] Junie Browning was at my school last night.

[1994] How's he doing?

[1995] Oh, he's totally cool, man. I love Junie Browning.

[1996] But before I actually met him, he was the only guy ever that I saw on the Ultimate Fighter.

[1997] And, you know, we're always backstage running into these guys all the time.

[1998] And that new season comes on.

[1999] I go, oh, I got to remember these dudes because I'm going to be running to them all the time.

[2000] I don't want to not know their names and feel like a total douchebag.

[2001] So I'm like this, I'm like watching.

[2002] the show, studying their fighting techniques, seeing what kind of fighter they are and what kind of the personality they have.

[2003] When they showed Junie Browning on top, I thought to myself, man, this guy can snap on anybody.

[2004] I don't want to get to know this guy.

[2005] I made the decision in my head, don't get close to that guy.

[2006] That guy will snap on you.

[2007] We were in Las Vegas.

[2008] We were eating at the nine at the palms.

[2009] And he was a really nice guy.

[2010] And he was a big fan of yours.

[2011] And that's, I tried to avoid him.

[2012] I didn't even want to talk to him.

[2013] I just thought from the show they made him seem like a total lunatic right so um and sean tompkins trained him and he just fuck somebody up on a spike show in Vegas and we're at nine the place is packed i see sean tompkins walking towards me and i'm like i love sean tompkins so as soon as he came up i like you know we gave each other a little hug and i saw that oh damn junie browning's right behind him and his buddy so i hugged sean tompkins and kind of looked the other way trying to pretend like i didn't notice junie browning i'm going fuck man here he comes he's coming right for me shit he's with Tompkins.

[2014] I hear him right next to me. He's like right over my shoulder.

[2015] And he almost passed me by, but his buddy from Kentucky said, hey, there's Eddie Bravo.

[2016] And I'm like, oh, shit, he's going to come up.

[2017] So he tapped me on the shoulder.

[2018] And I looked over and I was, hey, dude, what's going on?

[2019] Dude, great fight.

[2020] Fuck.

[2021] And I'm thinking, oh, shit.

[2022] I'm actually talking to him.

[2023] Holy shit, what's going to happen?

[2024] And then he goes, bro, man, we're always studying your books and smoking weed and on the mats with your book out.

[2025] I do rubber guard.

[2026] I got a good twister and all of some like whoa this guy's this guy's a 10th planet fan like all of a sudden i got to give this guy a chance maybe maybe i prejudged him and he turned out to be a fucking cool guy man and you know he's thinking about moving to l .a and to get away from Vegas he's not partying anymore he just wants to clean up his life and and uh make a big comeback still a young kid right isn't he he's funny as hell dude he's funny that motherfucker's funny he doesn't have to be drunk after jiu -jitsu we hung out in the parking lot and he made all of us laugh quite a few times he's got some witty -ass shit man he's a cool dude he just you know he had a bad upbringing his dad he's to beat the shit out of him and you're gonna come up you're gonna have a little kinks you know a couple kinks that's all I mean we've run into so many guys over the years that started out like that and then eventually got their shit together you know one way or another I mean it's it's fun to watch guys like that evolve and become something better than what they were like chris leban perfect example of a guy I started, I was kind of a brawler, and now he's like a fucking, like, after you put Aaron Simpson away, he's like a seasoned motherfucker now.

[2027] Triangled Akiyama.

[2028] Yeah.

[2029] For real.

[2030] Yeah.

[2031] Chris Liban's a bad man. He's smart, man. And I believe that Junie Browning, I really believe that he's too smart to throw his life away.

[2032] He's that smart.

[2033] If he was an idiot, he might just keep fucking up.

[2034] Well, he would benefit from hanging around you, man. If he, you know, you understand troubled childhoods and channeling that shit into, you know, something positive and being around positive people, man. That's the most important thing for having a positive life, being around a bunch of other people that are on the same wavelength as you.

[2035] They're trying to do the same shit.

[2036] And that's one of the cool things about 10th Planet Jiu -Jitsu in Hollywood is that everyone is super positive there.

[2037] And it all trickles down from you.

[2038] Thank you, sir.

[2039] Well, you know that, right?

[2040] I mean, it all trickles down from you.

[2041] I mean, a lot of places, if you go to there and the instructor's kind of douchey and people can get douchey with each other, and there's none of that at our place.

[2042] Everybody's very cool.

[2043] All I'm doing really is acknowledging that everyone has an ego, I have an ego, everybody has an ego, and I just, every day I try to do things to keep that ego in check, because if I don't, if I'm not consciously trying to keep it in check, sometimes it just pops up and fucks up, you know what I mean?

[2044] So, you know, I, and it rubs off on my students.

[2045] My students are constantly, you know, if, like, their ego flares up, you know, they can catch themselves, they can correct themselves.

[2046] It's a lifelong process, man. You know, everybody has an ego, and they're, everyone struggles with this podcast is a part of that too man i've talked to a bunch of people that i've met all over the world one of the most important ones was this kid that i met in boston who's from ireland who was explaining that man he goes i don't we don't have anybody like this near me no one talks like this no one gives us this there's no one around that it's like a thinker this way that thinks about life this way it's open -minded and he goes and because of this podcast it's making me like reassess the way i evaluate life and reassess the way i talk and think about things having guys like you teaching jiu -jitsu having a podcast like this like this like a serious it's like a serious connection we have to all these people and they help me too man i've i've gotten a bunch of cool tweets from people and inspirational shit and cool articles that people tweeted me and you know cool things that people post on the message board and it's all like a big thing together you know it's all a big thing everybody helping everybody else yeah it's so much fun every day i drive to class I remind myself on the way to class And how lucky I am I'm dry This is my job I mean I don't even look at like a job Look at like a job Look at like a job Sorry But I mean Every day's a day off for me man And I appreciate so much Just going to class And everyone's just sitting there And they're waiting for me To teach them how to strangle Like You know In an efficient way Like how fucking lucky am I I can't believe it every day It's amazing And the cool thing about Jiu -Jitsu for people don't know is everybody's real friendly to each other, man. I mean, people catch people all the time in, you know, and arm bars and chokes and shit like that.

[2047] And, you know, you don't want to get caught, but there's no, no fight to ever break out, no bullshit ever happens.

[2048] It's all just, you know, damn, I got caught.

[2049] All right, what did I do wrong?

[2050] You forgot to put your arm in.

[2051] Oh, shit.

[2052] Oh, thank you.

[2053] Yeah.

[2054] It's a massive misconception about jiu -jitsu that jiu -jitsu classes are a bunch of meatheads, they're douchebags, their dickheads.

[2055] And they think it's like, we train in a cage.

[2056] it's a bunch of computer nerds that are playing the ultimate virtual reality game because if you're into video games and like killing someone by pressing a button but no one's really dying but you enjoy that that feeling jiu jitsu is the ultimate virtual reality video game it's where we is going to end up the we's feeling more like a baseball bat like a golf club how about you can can actually kill people you know theoretically or you know with jiu jutsu you put someone in a choke they tap out it was like you killed them because if you didn't let them go, you would actually kill them and you can learn you can, it's anybody, there's so many jiu jitza schools all over the world, you can learn how to systematically and scientifically break limbs and put people to sleep.

[2057] There's like over 20 different ways you can put someone to sleep just with the neck you know, there's probably more.

[2058] I'm just guessing at least 20.

[2059] All these different chokes, so many different variations of guillotine and darses and jazz.

[2060] And it becomes just a really fun game too.

[2061] It's an amazing game.

[2062] Yeah.

[2063] It's It's a game where, I mean, I hurt my arm, like, a couple of weeks ago, you know, but, like, you know, for the most part, when you get, you go to, you know, you get involved in, like, like, serious rolling with somebody, everybody's fine when it's over, you know, you get caught with something, you just tap, and 99 % of the time, you're fine.

[2064] Every now and then, you'll get something, something will get tweaked, or your knee will get twisted.

[2065] I know you had a knee problem that happened recently.

[2066] Both my knees are fucked up, but it's so fun.

[2067] You never think about stopping, doing it.

[2068] You just think, man, I can't wait for myself to heal up.

[2069] Exactly.

[2070] So I can get back again.

[2071] You're like, fuck.

[2072] Like when you tweak something, you're like, God damn it, I'll probably be out a couple weeks.

[2073] Yeah.

[2074] And it's just fun.

[2075] It's so much fun.

[2076] I mean, it's, think about this.

[2077] You have to work out.

[2078] Everybody has to work out.

[2079] If you're in perfect shape, you have to maintain.

[2080] You have to keep working out.

[2081] Why not work out and learn how to take people out, put them to sleep at the same time?

[2082] And it's the ultimate video game.

[2083] it's exercise you learn some serious self -defense that can come up at any time in your life it's valuable and it gives you so much confidence and it's so much fun it kills video games it's like there's and then you meet a lot of great people that have their ego in check because if you don't have if you don't have your ego in check then those people don't survive jujitsu the tapping is an ego a douchebag filter the tapping because dudes that are just just their ego it's where their ego rules them.

[2084] They can't jump on the mat and get tapped out.

[2085] They run from it.

[2086] Or they get on the edge of the mats.

[2087] They're like, no way am I going to let people tap me out.

[2088] And they really don't know what's going on.

[2089] But subconsciously, the fear of being dominated and tapping out by losing, looking like a weakling, that scares people away.

[2090] You've got to look at it like you're just learning.

[2091] Of course you're going to get tapped out in the beginning.

[2092] And the more you come, the more dedicated you are.

[2093] As time passes, you start tapping dudes out occasionally.

[2094] But still, you're usually tapping.

[2095] You're a beginner.

[2096] But ultimately, one or two, years, man, you can minimize those taps and you're getting, you're learning, if you did jiu -jitsu for two years, the odds are in a street fight one -on -one, the odds are way on your side, way on your side, you know, anybody could, anything could happen in a street fight, but man, a guy that's trained jiu -jitsu two years against a guy who has zero training on the ground, hmm.

[2097] Another great aspect of it is that it calms down your body and it makes you realize how much of an influence stress and just the fact that we have that.

[2098] this ancient chimpanzee hardware in our system.

[2099] Our bodies are set up for hunting and gathering and carrying things.

[2100] And our bodies are set up to exert a certain amount of energy.

[2101] And if you don't exert a certain amount of energy with your body, your body starts to betray you and you start to get really stressful and start to snap at things that you wouldn't ordinarily snap out.

[2102] You shouldn't rationally be upset about.

[2103] It allows you to put things into perspective.

[2104] It calms your body down.

[2105] That's very important, man. Yeah, I mean, are you saying jiu -jitza is better than quake?

[2106] Are you going to start that, Brian?

[2107] There's a bunch of people put a bunch of videos of cool video games that are out there, man. Fuck, you know, like to try to tell me that there's all these different video games, man, there's some insane shit.

[2108] There's just one, I don't know the name of it, but they were, uh, it was like, it looked like they were in the jungle and they were like near some, like, it looks like some Mayan temples and shit.

[2109] The graphics are insane.

[2110] Russian attack?

[2111] I don't know what it is, man. I don't know what it is.

[2112] I don't remember.

[2113] Someone put just, you know, a demo up and then someone put crisis.

[2114] Oh, fallout, I bet.

[2115] I don't know what it was.

[2116] But the demo was insane.

[2117] And then Crisis was another one.

[2118] It was pretty interesting.

[2119] A bunch of dudes running around shooting people.

[2120] But then I put a video.

[2121] I went to watch a video of Quake online, and I go back to what I said.

[2122] Nothing can fuck a Quake.

[2123] It's just, I understand that these games are beautiful.

[2124] I understand these games have all these cool things you can do.

[2125] There's the latest version of Quake for, yeah.

[2126] All I want to do is fuck people up in one -on -one death matches.

[2127] That's what I like to do.

[2128] But yet you're, I don't know.

[2129] It's not even talking.

[2130] I understand what you're saying, man. No, I'm just saying that if you like death matches, they've taken that.

[2131] the formula of deathmatch and just added on to it for like the last 15, 20 years or whatever, how long Well, Quake 3 was, I mean, Quake 4 was 2000 something.

[2132] It was like 2005 or 2006.

[2133] All right, so for the last 5, 6...

[2134] Maybe I should...

[2135] I might not be...

[2136] But they've just taken the formula.

[2137] They even used the same engine on Call of Duty when it first came out, and they've just improved it, improved it, and proved it, and proved it.

[2138] And, like, a lot of these games...

[2139] Like, last week I wasn't talking about, like, keyboard and mouse necessarily is better than controller argument.

[2140] My point is that...

[2141] The games are better now.

[2142] The games are better now, and they're not geared towards the accuracy of a keyboard and mouse as much as they are geared for just having a fun experience in a video game.

[2143] Yeah, there's a lot of auto aim going on.

[2144] People do those driving games?

[2145] It's not even...

[2146] It's just easier to...

[2147] People still do those driving games?

[2148] Yeah, yeah.

[2149] Totally.

[2150] To me, though, what's fun to me about video games, I understand all that, but what's fun to me is just I got addicted straight up to one -on -one matches and even, like, team death matches.

[2151] Just the fact that you have this incredibly precise control over the environment.

[2152] Yeah, you're more like the pool statistic version of the video games.

[2153] Exactly.

[2154] I mean, it's all just different things.

[2155] That's a very small majority.

[2156] Yeah, most people like to play football games, and the control is perfect for that.

[2157] Right.

[2158] With Quake games, those one -on -one first -person shooters, it's just so precise.

[2159] It's so addictive, man. When you were talking about, was your cousin's addicted to games?

[2160] No, my nephew.

[2161] Nephew, man, when I was a little kid, if they'd hit me with some quake, I would have lost my life.

[2162] I would have never got into martial arts.

[2163] I would have never got productive with my life.

[2164] I would have never paid attention in school.

[2165] Joe, there's a game on Steam that you can play on your Mac that has nothing to do with it, but I want you to, next time you're bored and you just want to spend, because it's a really short game, so you can't get addicted to it.

[2166] Like, literally, you could beat it in like six hours.

[2167] Really?

[2168] But it's called Portal.

[2169] Six hours.

[2170] Jesus, I ain't got six hours.

[2171] I got six hours.

[2172] I mean, but six hours spread up for like months.

[2173] That's an addiction right there.

[2174] That game alone will set your mind racing to how crazy video games are nowadays.

[2175] So what is the best?

[2176] one right now.

[2177] If I wanted to get something for like an Xbox and something that's just going to blow my fucking mind.

[2178] Gears a War?

[2179] For you, I would probably go with more of like a borderlands or something like that.

[2180] But I would actually find a game that you could play on your Mac, you know, like a game like Call of Duty that you can play.

[2181] I think Call of Duty 4 is on there.

[2182] And there's a couple scenes from Call of Duty 4 that will blow your fucking mind, you know?

[2183] There's a red one, red something, cowboy one?

[2184] Don't get that.

[2185] That's shit.

[2186] What is it?

[2187] That's just Grand The but using a horse and cowboy.

[2188] What is it called?

[2189] It's called Red Dead Dawn or something like that.

[2190] I gave it a chance, but I was like, all right, this is Grand Theft Auto.

[2191] I don't want to play it anymore.

[2192] That was a hugely successful game, though.

[2193] Super, you know, it's just people like that formula.

[2194] And I'm sure it's bigger and better than Grand Theft Auto.

[2195] But for me, I just played it, and I'm like, I'm done with that.

[2196] I don't want to play that anymore.

[2197] I'm over that.

[2198] They say that EA martial arts game is a bust.

[2199] Nobody's buying it.

[2200] Really?

[2201] Really?

[2202] I still haven't played the UFC.

[2203] Do you have like a box of?

[2204] Yeah, I'll give you one.

[2205] Cool.

[2206] There's a new one we're working on.

[2207] right now.

[2208] Joey Dioz.

[2209] Who do you think this is?

[2210] Joey Dios.

[2211] What the fuck?

[2212] Pick up the phone, Coxucker.

[2213] That's not what happened.

[2214] Go back to that Alex Jones transcript.

[2215] So your calls gone.

[2216] That's Brian Callan.

[2217] Brian Callan must have just gotten to the tank.

[2218] Right before we were going to do the podcast, he was about getting a tank for the first time.

[2219] That's what was Brian?

[2220] Here?

[2221] Yeah.

[2222] No, not here.

[2223] No. At the place in Venice.

[2224] The headquarters, floatlap .com.

[2225] So I think what we got out of today is that Eddie Bravo loves UFOs.

[2226] I love them.

[2227] and jujitsu i love them like bunnies and uh brian loves cats and one hit of weed instead of three you got too high today no no i'm just saying that i liked my high today yeah one hit i think that's all i need no no more than two and two if they're gonna be two it's two light ones your shit fucking fuck me up this week and by the way like he like we smoked before we went on stage actually we smoked oh we should talk about that we smoked and then joie dyes told me five minutes later going oh i'm right put you up on stage and i'm like what i'm going up sold out joh Rogan Show, no. So I was completely baked out of my mind the first couple days.

[2228] What we did this weekend was different was we took Esther on the road, who was Little Esther, who's Brian's friend, who's an emerging stand -up comedian in L .A., and she's only 22 years old.

[2229] She's only been doing comedy like two years.

[2230] And we just said, well, it's just fucking, just for an experiment.

[2231] See what it's like to take this kid and throw her up in front of a real crowd.

[2232] She did great.

[2233] Yeah, she killed.

[2234] Little Esther .com.

[2235] Dude, she's fucking good, man. She's confident and smooth and for someone who's only been doing comedy for two years she's way better than I was two years into it and I told her that when I was two years into it I was a mess I was a clunky fucking goofy mess Is it okay that she's Is she known for looking really young?

[2236] Yeah that's like that's one of her characters Yeah she looks like she's 12 seriously What's her name Esther?

[2237] Little Esther Little Esther?

[2238] Little Esther?

[2239] Her feet seriously are smaller than my hands I'd smell like they're twice as big Whoa just kidding The fuck man Why you're throwing her into the bus She's funny, man. She was funny.

[2240] She did a good job, too, man. It was interesting watching you loosen up from the first set you did on Thursday night to the last set you did on Saturday night, which was your best one.

[2241] Right.

[2242] You slowly got a chance.

[2243] I have something to admit to you, Joe, that second set Saturday, I acted like I smoked marijuana before I went on stage, before I went on stage.

[2244] The second set?

[2245] Remember before we all smoked?

[2246] Oh, you didn't really smoke it?

[2247] No, because I was like, no, and you're like, do it, do it?

[2248] And I'm like, no, I don't want it.

[2249] All right?

[2250] So the best show that you had was the one when you weren't high.

[2251] Right.

[2252] You weren't high at all?

[2253] No, no. must have been a little high stuff from the first time but that was like three hours so it had leveled off because you were nervous weed isn't that great when you're nervous man and he realized that that you're probably you high and got paranoid and you was getting high like going and then going on stage like five minutes later that's not a good mix for me it's not a good mix of the podcast either before we've done the many times we get high right before we do the podcast like today the first words out of my mouth they don't come out that good right but like right now we're two hours in it's all smooth but once you're killing Once you're killing and you're really confident and you can't wait to go on stage, then the weed will take it through the roof.

[2254] Yeah, but even then, you've got to make sure you don't get too hard.

[2255] I think Red Bull and Vodka, one or two of them, if we're on stage, is the key ingredient for stand -up comedy.

[2256] One or two Red Bulls and vodka is, yeah.

[2257] I like a little bit of weed and some calisthenics.

[2258] Yeah, my best teaching always comes from me being high when I teach, because I'm so confident with it that it adds to it.

[2259] I'll be pissed off.

[2260] Like, if I forget, like, I forgot to, I don't have weed right now.

[2261] And I didn't teach class today, Stone, this morning.

[2262] I didn't teach, I felt pretty good.

[2263] I mean, I feel it was a good class.

[2264] But I always feel like when I'm high, it's just, like, I don't want the class to end.

[2265] I want her to keep going.

[2266] I want more time.

[2267] When I'm in that space and in that zone, like, shit, I'm running out of time.

[2268] There's so much I've got to say in show.

[2269] When we did the Alex Jones show, we got high in the car right before we went in there, really high.

[2270] We want, like, three hits.

[2271] Alex Jones show would be cool high, though.

[2272] Well, it's bewildering, though.

[2273] because we walked in, you know, I walked in.

[2274] Joe, they're about to devalue the dollar.

[2275] They're going to take the dollar away.

[2276] It's been proven.

[2277] It's here in Forbes.

[2278] They're x -raying your home.

[2279] They're driving by in vans, and they're taking photos of you, irradiating your house with deadly radiation that can give cancer.

[2280] These poor people, so it's like you go from right out of the car.

[2281] Everybody's laughing.

[2282] We're talking shit.

[2283] We're breaking down country music.

[2284] There was like some ridiculous country music song, you know, but lonely girls.

[2285] Make the best lovers.

[2286] Remember that?

[2287] What's that?

[2288] We were laughing our asses off, and then you go right in there.

[2289] Death, destruction, new world order elites, global warming.

[2290] What was he saying about radiation and all that shit?

[2291] This is a crazy fucking real thing they're doing where they're driving through neighborhoods and they're blasting these cars with these super powerful X -rays from these vans.

[2292] And they're looking inside vehicles.

[2293] They have photos of this shit.

[2294] It was in Forbes magazine.

[2295] He pulls up the story and shows it to me, and they're doing it to houses, too.

[2296] They just drive by and point this fucking crazy x -ray gun at cars and see right through them.

[2297] They show all these photos of people looking at bricks of cocaine, the back of a van.

[2298] I'm like, this is nuts, man. Like, they can shoot x -rays.

[2299] It just makes me really wonder, though, how, like, people go on the radiation, like, what exactly how strong it is.

[2300] Because, like, the other day I was talking to my dentist, and he said, like, you know, this radiation is about, equal to standing next to a microwave that's what you said yeah something like that i forget i don't know so you should wear a lead vest when he microwaves a popcorn i don't know i don't know what that's for but that he said it's not that big a deal that's why he's not wearing a lead vest you know and well the crazy thing is that there's radiation around us all the time right right like your cell phones and microwaving your brain every time you put up to you yeah no one knows what's happening with those right yeah so what happens though when you're in your car though and you got a hands free is that okay well not when you have your phone between your crotch when you know when you're You're cooking your dick.

[2301] There was a study release recently that said that laptops cook your balls.

[2302] Oh, yeah.

[2303] Cook your sperm.

[2304] That's what I totally.

[2305] Makes your sperm ineffective.

[2306] If you have your laptop on your lap?

[2307] Yeah, you're cooking your balls.

[2308] But not up there.

[2309] No, no, it's just because of the heat.

[2310] The heat.

[2311] Yeah.

[2312] Cooks your balls.

[2313] Yeah, I never put my laptop on my lap.

[2314] Yeah, I got this thing for that very reason.

[2315] It's like this little pad that like sits on the laptop.

[2316] It makes it more comfortable anyway because the bottom is like soft so it sort of molds to your legs.

[2317] And with that note, do you got that Italian song?

[2318] No, it wasn't, it says, uh, YouTube user does not allow mobile views or something like that.

[2319] What?

[2320] Yeah.

[2321] Oh, so sad.

[2322] Is this it?

[2323] That would have been the perfect ending.

[2324] What is this?

[2325] You're playing.

[2326] Fat Boy Slim again.

[2327] Another Fat Boy Slim again?

[2328] Well, it's the same thing.

[2329] It sounds like you love him.

[2330] It's like a two -hour, if you go to his website, it's called Fat Boy Slim Summer Mix, and it's just a free download.

[2331] It's like a, I think you love him like Eddie loves UFOs.

[2332] I think I do, too.

[2333] Not that much.

[2334] All right, ladies gentlemen.

[2335] Thank you for tuning to the podcast next week.

[2336] We're in Ann Arbor, Michigan.

[2337] It's me and Tommy Segura at the Ann Arbor Comedy Showcase.

[2338] You're going to have to find where that shit is.

[2339] I don't know where it is.

[2340] It's like an hour from Detroit.

[2341] But we're doing two shows, 1, 8, and 1030.

[2342] It's on my Twitter.

[2343] It's on Joe Rogan .net.

[2344] Thank you to the Flashlight for sponsoring this podcast.

[2345] As always, you can go to Joe Rogan .net and enter into the code, I believe, is Rogan, right?

[2346] Yep.

[2347] Rogan.

[2348] And you get 15 % off.

[2349] We can fuck that shit, yo.

[2350] It's the best thing ever.

[2351] Eddie Bravo, thank you very much for coming on, as always, my friend.

[2352] And if people want to reach you, 10th planetjj .com.

[2353] That's it.

[2354] And on Twitter, it's at Eddie Bravo.

[2355] And, of course, Brian Redband.

[2356] At Redband, if you want to tell Little Esther that you were in Austin, Texas, and you thought she was awesome, and you were so proud of her.

[2357] She's a little Esther.

[2358] Listen to her on Adam Klola tomorrow.

[2359] Oh, okay.

[2360] When is that?

[2361] I don't know.

[2362] She's blowing the fuck up.

[2363] The kid's blowing up.

[2364] Yeah.

[2365] She's on Adam.

[2366] Rollo.

[2367] We had her here first, bitch.

[2368] Yeah.

[2369] She took her on the road.

[2370] Yeah, she's talented.

[2371] Something's going to happen.

[2372] Joey Diaz is mad flavor on Twitter.

[2373] And thank you every month, everybody.

[2374] And that's it.

[2375] We'll see you next week.

[2376] Love you, bitches.

[2377] See you.

[2378] Later.