#470 - Amber Lyon

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[3] Hey, Amber the Lion.

[4] Last time we spoke on a podcast was two months before the world was supposed to get an end.

[5] It was right, it was that big December 21st, 2012 scare that everybody was so terrified about.

[6] You know, we had people telling us for sure some change was going to happen.

[7] I had Daniel Pinchback on the podcast.

[8] He told me for sure.

[9] I go, for sure, something's going to happen December 21st, 2012.

[10] It was absolutely without a doubt.

[11] All markers point to that.

[12] Okay.

[13] And here we are.

[14] And here we are.

[15] Nothing's changed.

[16] Nothing's changed.

[17] Have you written him and been like, um, excuse me. I like that guy.

[18] I don't want to be mean.

[19] It's just, uh, you know, it's silly.

[20] It's silly to think that you're going to be the first guy ever to figure out how the, what's going to happen.

[21] You see it coming.

[22] Nobody else does.

[23] You see it coming.

[24] It's super easy.

[25] if you're like a Ray Kurzweil guy and you're super scientific and very technologically in tune and you know what the latest technologies are.

[26] So if he makes, if Ray Kurzweil makes a prediction about the future, you've got to take it into consideration.

[27] He's predicted a lot of things.

[28] He predicted the internet search engine.

[29] I believe he had something to do with speech to text.

[30] He had a part in creating that.

[31] So that guy, I believe.

[32] But when you're a hippie writer like Daniel Pinchback, can you tell him it's going to be the end of the world.

[33] I love your work, man. Don't get me wrong.

[34] I love that guy.

[35] But I'm going to take it with a grain of salt.

[36] I should be really fair here, because he did not say it was going to be the end of the world.

[37] He did not at all.

[38] He thought that there was going to be some sort of a paradigm shift.

[39] And by the way, he might be right.

[40] I'm all just talking shit here.

[41] Because, like, who knows?

[42] Maybe a shift did take place.

[43] We're just not quite aware of it yet.

[44] You know, maybe it'll be looked at in history.

[45] Like, the French Renaissance.

[46] Like, when did, you know, when did the Inquisition end exactly?

[47] You know, do they feel it by the day?

[48] you know, when did World War II, when it finally did end, when it was D -Day, when did the dust settle, when did everybody realize what an incredible, insane, impactful moment they had just lived through.

[49] It probably takes a few years, you know.

[50] So maybe something happened, internet -wise, in December 21st, 2012, we're just not aware.

[51] Maybe that was when the NSA really kicked it up a notch.

[52] You know, who knows?

[53] I mean, maybe it was something.

[54] It's just, it seems like no one ever really predicts the future.

[55] Of course not.

[56] believe that 2012 was symbolic for an evolution of consciousness that we're going through, that we're finally starting to end this madness as a species and evolve to a more conscious species that's more aware.

[57] I just know, even since the last time I did your podcast show, just how much awakening has happened across the country.

[58] I remember when I told you on the podcast about how I suspected that potentially my phone had been tapped or that the government was looking through my phone.

[59] Well, at the time, people around me thought I was crazy and paranoid, but now we have the NSA revelations that, wait a minute, this really is happening.

[60] There's a reason why your phone keeps shutting back on, and you may be in some foreign country, but your geotrackers working perfectly, even though you don't have cell service, which happens to me a lot, it freaks me out.

[61] But above all, I think that we are shifting and people are awakening at this point.

[62] I think you're right, and I think Daniel pinchback's right, and I owe an apology.

[63] I just was too ignorant to see the shift.

[64] No, I think there's most certainly something's going on.

[65] And I think a lot of it is that younger kids today, they have not been inundated with the same sort of propaganda that we grew up with.

[66] And they're getting the Internet, you know, from day one.

[67] And they, the exchange of information, the way it's done today, is not just more accurate than ever before.

[68] Like, you know, like someone tells you something stupid.

[69] And you go, what?

[70] Let me Google that.

[71] And everyone Googles it.

[72] And then that ends nonsense.

[73] It ends a lot of nonsense conversations between friends that would have gone on for, days and days and days when I was a kid.

[74] When I was a kid, you had to go get a fucking encyclopedia if you wanted to figure out whether someone was full of shit.

[75] And you had to go through the encyclopedia, and then you had to memorize it and quote it.

[76] You couldn't just pull your phone up and stick it in their face and go, shut up, dummy.

[77] I remember that.

[78] I had those Encyclopedia Britannicas.

[79] We'd get like 12 episodes, A through Z and just have to pour through those.

[80] Can we go door to door?

[81] Remember that we'd go door to door and try to sell them to you?

[82] Yeah, we were the ones the bottom.

[83] I grew up in the middle of the country.

[84] We were suckers for all the door -to -door solicitors.

[85] Door -to -door solicitors are so weird.

[86] A charismatic person who's really good at being slick and bullshitting you, knocks on your door and sells you some shit.

[87] It tries to convince you to buy some shit.

[88] Like, you're not even in the store.

[89] They're sending these creepers all around the country just knocking on people's doors and being slick.

[90] It's selling you vacuums and shit.

[91] Or trying to save your soul.

[92] Those are the best.

[93] Yeah, selling you their cult.

[94] Yeah, when you're sitting in the living room, just relaxing, and then someone knocks on the door telling you everything about your life is wrong and you need instant savings.

[95] That only happened once in my whole life, and it was when I was a little kid, and I remember, I think my grandfather was home.

[96] I think my grandfather was babysitting me and my sister, and someone came to the door.

[97] God, it was hard to remember.

[98] But I remember it was like, nope, sorry, get out, sorry, thanks, thanks, bye.

[99] And they were so insistent, just so foolishly insistent, you know, wanting you to know, if you don't know about, this man you're you're gonna miss the end of the world they're predicting the end of the world it's just another 2012 it's another you know when those crazy people in san diego all put on the nikes and killed themselves because they thought the halbop comet people remember that yeah i remember that that was the he was bald yeah yeah yeah he looked very alienesque yes i forget homeboy's name but yeah he was definitely a creeper the hailbops i can't believe people followed him Just based on his looks, he freaked me out.

[100] Well, he was, you know, I mean, look, if he could, Ram Dass isn't the most normal looking dude either.

[101] But, you know, you listen to him and you hear him talk and you realize this guy is about as real as it gets.

[102] I would love to hear what this halibop dude sounded like.

[103] You know, maybe he was slick as fuck.

[104] Maybe he was a really good door -to -door salesman, you know?

[105] Didn't he get them to castrate themselves?

[106] Oh, my gosh.

[107] I think they castrated themselves, too.

[108] Or at least one of them or a couple of them did.

[109] I think he felt like sexuality was imprisoning.

[110] There's probably some gay shit going on.

[111] It's scary, how quickly people can become sheep and listen to something like that.

[112] Like, actually castrate yourself?

[113] Yes, we say this, but maybe he's correct.

[114] There he is.

[115] There's the heaven's gay.

[116] Maybe he's right.

[117] Marshall.

[118] Oh, Marshall, Apple, Wade, is his name.

[119] Marshall.

[120] Oh, Marshall, you silly man. Yeah.

[121] Who knows?

[122] Maybe they're all on another planet right now.

[123] We're the suckers.

[124] Maybe they're living in paradise.

[125] You know?

[126] We don't know.

[127] We just see their stuff.

[128] shells with their nikes, symbolic nikes.

[129] And I never believe that we get the true story of what was going on from the government or from authority.

[130] So you never know.

[131] Maybe there was something more to it.

[132] I don't know.

[133] I don't think the government knows.

[134] Maybe they made up the castration thing.

[135] That is possible, right?

[136] They do shit like that.

[137] Have you ever been a part of a story where you absolutely know when you were working for CNN?

[138] Was there anything where you're like, I know that that's not how it happened?

[139] I know it.

[140] What they're saying on TV right now is nonsense.

[141] Yeah, for sure.

[142] It happened a lot of times.

[143] I think that especially across the media in general, a lot of stories are just dumbed down to the point that they just, you lose the real essence of the story.

[144] And that happened for me in the situation of Bahrain.

[145] I talked about thoroughly on your last show, but sometimes I would see them reporting things on air and had watched documentaries that they did.

[146] And it was a stark contrast, a complete opposite.

[147] opposite from what I'd seen on the ground.

[148] What did it feel like the first time you ever saw, like, bullshit?

[149] The first time you ever knew, like, I'm sure in the beginning, when you first started being a reporter, you're probably very excited about the prospect.

[150] You're working for CNN.

[151] Oh, my goodness.

[152] You know, this is going to be amazing.

[153] I'm going to do some hardcore investigative journalism in other countries.

[154] The first time you saw some bullshit, what were you like?

[155] What was your thought?

[156] I just was so let down, Joe, because I was, it just was like taking your dream.

[157] and just crushing them one story at a time.

[158] And that's kind of how it happened to me there.

[159] It just, it wasn't like one big incident happened, but there was a little bit of censorship with each story over and over and over to the point that I realized that the mainstream media was just misleading the people, and I was becoming a cog in the machine.

[160] And so I'd gotten into journalism to help people and try to change this world.

[161] But instead, I was actually helping give the station credibility and helping spread what I believe to be lies.

[162] And that's just a real, just a devastating moment.

[163] And it caused me a lot of stress over the years for sure.

[164] I'm sure.

[165] Is it a situation where the news just becomes any other business, any other organism, any other thing that wants to grow and stay alive.

[166] And the only way to do that is to touch as many bases as you can, spread out as far as you can, and collect as much money as you can.

[167] And somewhere along the line, you have to make some deals.

[168] Exactly.

[169] And I think you hit the nail on the head, Joe.

[170] And I think what's going on is that a lot of these news outlets are, like you said, corporations.

[171] And their main goal is to make money.

[172] And that's what was happening in the case of CNN.

[173] They were taking money from different governments, pro -U

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