31 - Namaste Sexy

[0] This is exactly right.

[1] Hey, this is exciting.

[2] An all -new season of only murders in the building is coming to Hulu on August 27th.

[3] Steve Martin, Martin Short, and Selena Gomez are back as your favorite podcaster, detectives.

[4] But there's a mystery hanging over everyone.

[5] Who killed Saz?

[6] And were they really after Charles?

[7] Why would someone want to kill Charles?

[8] This season, murder hits close to home.

[9] With a threat against one of their own, the stakes are higher than ever.

[10] Plus, the gang is going to Hollywood to turn their podcast into a major movie.

[11] Amid the glitz and glamour of Los Angeles, more mysteries and twists arise.

[12] Who knows what will happen once the cameras start to roll?

[13] Get ready for the stariest season yet with Merrill Streep, Zach Alfinacus, Eugene Levy, Eva Longoria, Melissa McCarthy, DeVine, Joy Randolph, Molly Shannon, and more.

[14] Only Martyrs in the building, premieres August 27th, streaming only on Hulu.

[15] Goodbye.

[16] Well, it doesn't matter if you're ready, Stephen.

[17] That's what you'd be right, like the real.

[18] us is just be raiding Stephen.

[19] Stephen includes a seven second just me reining him before the episode first.

[20] It's like a, um, what's it called when you're a hostage and you're like trying to send a message to the outside world.

[21] It's all Stockholm syndrome at the point.

[22] Yeah, that's right.

[23] Stephen has really bad Stockholm syndrome.

[24] Evil.

[25] We are.

[26] Starting now.

[27] Karen.

[28] Welcome to my favorite murder.

[29] Karen.

[30] Karen, I'm just going to yell at your name.

[31] Karen.

[32] Georgia, we started the podcast.

[33] How do you feel so far?

[34] Quack, I can't stop.

[35] I'm great.

[36] How are you?

[37] I was so bad.

[38] I don't know if you ever asked me how I was like that.

[39] How are you?

[40] How are you really?

[41] How are you?

[42] Let's have a moment of vulnerability.

[43] I feel a lot of anxiety about, gosh, so many things.

[44] You know that weird Wednesday feeling?

[45] We're recording this on Wednesday.

[46] Will we get it up in time?

[47] You know, job stuff.

[48] I drink too much coffee all day.

[49] Oh, you did.

[50] Am I drinking too much Diet Coke to the point where I'm killing myself?

[51] How many do you drink?

[52] Diet Coke?

[53] Yeah.

[54] Oh, it's only like 23 a day.

[55] I like that every episode now you have to admit, like you have to confess something you do.

[56] That's like, because you had smoked, told us you smoked cigarettes last time.

[57] I mean, very rarely.

[58] It's not like I would.

[59] I wouldn't call that.

[60] It's not a thing.

[61] That's just, that's like my secret sneak away once in a while.

[62] I think you're in denial.

[63] I know.

[64] What's your big reveal?

[65] Oh, what's a good one?

[66] What's a good one?

[67] What's a fun one?

[68] I have adult acne.

[69] Okay.

[70] That sucks.

[71] I can relate to that.

[72] Yeah, I don't like that.

[73] Um, that's about it.

[74] That's all you're willing to give?

[75] No, I mean, my life is a fucking open.

[76] I have nothing that I hide.

[77] I feel like that's, I think people can, um, it helps people lock in to our humanity.

[78] Yeah.

[79] When we're just sitting here going, you know, gross, disgusting, horrible humanity.

[80] Check out this, oh, hideousness.

[81] And they have a, it may get a podcast.

[82] Gross.

[83] It better be a podcast.

[84] Yeah.

[85] I don't look at it.

[86] Um, we're getting a lot of, it is very enjoyable and of course, feeding the ego.

[87] A lot of people are doing like fan art pictures.

[88] Yes, things of us, which the thing I enjoy the most is they always give me a huge nose.

[89] I don't think I have a huge nose.

[90] You don't have a huge nose.

[91] I think I have a pretty buttony nose.

[92] You have a cute little button nose.

[93] I mean, thank you.

[94] I just wanted you to say that.

[95] I've noticed, yeah, I have a large jaw in them, which I actually have an undersized jaw, hence my invisible I'm.

[96] That's right.

[97] But thank you.

[98] But you know what?

[99] but thank you we're the most ungrateful assholes of all time here we have a couple notes can you draw us better please draw me everything I know it's a lot smaller if you want to make it on to instagram .com slash my favorite murder you got to draw us true to life there's some really good ones um of us really awesome drawings we're like you look at it and go oh my god this looks like we have a comic book yeah which is super cool so thank you so much You're fucking backpedaling so hard right now.

[100] I'm embarrassed.

[101] Don't be.

[102] Go to the Instagram and you'll see a bunch of it.

[103] Like, we post that shit all the time.

[104] We post all of them.

[105] We post everything that we see and find that you guys send us.

[106] I love it all.

[107] A lot of people made us new logos that say the fuckword murder mystery show, which we really love and appreciate.

[108] That was so great.

[109] That was good times.

[110] And also, I just wanted to mention on the Twitter page, we got, quote, a million shout -outs from Sweden, these guys who have a podcast called the Power Meeting podcast, sent us a tweet that said a million shoutouts from Sweden, which I didn't know until I read it that that's all I've ever wanted in my life.

[111] That's so sweet.

[112] Shoutouts from Sweden.

[113] Also, Australia loves us.

[114] Fuck yeah, Australia.

[115] We were number five in Australia.

[116] That's amazing.

[117] That's a big place, right?

[118] They must not be about accuracy down there because I feel like everything I've ever said about Australia on this podcast has been deeply wrong.

[119] Well, we did an Australian murder.

[120] So maybe that's why...

[121] Oh, that's right.

[122] They, like, love us for doing that.

[123] Because there's some good ones there.

[124] There are some amazing ones.

[125] Yours was...

[126] It was the son who washed his clothes before he did anything.

[127] Yeah, he murdered.

[128] He went on a paper route, murdered his fucking family, blamed his dad, washed his clothes.

[129] Or was that New Zealand?

[130] Fuck.

[131] No, I think it was Australia.

[132] Watch the numbers plummet.

[133] Oh, my God.

[134] Why did I even bring this up?

[135] I don't know.

[136] I brought it up.

[137] Oh, okay.

[138] This is all your fault.

[139] What else do you want to say?

[140] Harmon Town is the 28th.

[141] I don't know if it's sold out or not, but we might as well give it a plug.

[142] Dan Harmon has a live podcast, and we get to be the guests this coming Sunday.

[143] Yeah, so if you can't come, just listen to it because it's going to be a good episode.

[144] Yeah, it'll be an upcomer on a Farrell Audio podcast exclusive.

[145] And then, oh, we did the Dallup Live 200 episode podcast, and you can listen to that.

[146] Oh, that's right.

[147] And it was super fun.

[148] Oh, my God.

[149] It was amazing.

[150] It was really good.

[151] It was great just to sit between all of you guys who were so fucking funny and just like I said, and I really felt this at the time that I was going to laugh my Botox out.

[152] Like I was laughing so hard.

[153] I thought I was going to break my Botox.

[154] Well, Dave and Gareth have this weird combination going where it's like Dave says the fact and then Gareth ax it out.

[155] And it's so amazing that I just wanted to sit there quietly and let them do it because I'm genuinely a fan of what they do.

[156] but I felt like, you know, of course, as a comic, I have to nudge my way into everything.

[157] Right.

[158] No, it was so good.

[159] It was super fun.

[160] Oh, also, we got a tweet from Glitter Pizza 91.

[161] God bless your heart that said, um, why not at the end of every murder?

[162] Why don't you ring a gong?

[163] Which I read out of context, just read as a random tweet.

[164] And it made me laugh very hard.

[165] Then I understood, I saw a bunch of other tweets that said, what's that noise?

[166] What's that creepy, spooky noise?

[167] that we keep hearing, and it was, we got, Stephen set us up with these awesome, mic stands.

[168] Yeah, they look like what you see, like, real radio people using.

[169] So we don't have to, like, touch our mics and make noise anymore.

[170] But what we did was we touched the mic stands and we were making the springs.

[171] Because I can't sit still.

[172] Right?

[173] Is that super loud?

[174] That's it.

[175] It's perfect.

[176] Okay.

[177] Yeah, that's the sound.

[178] Listen, I have ADD, I think.

[179] Right.

[180] Which is what my psychiatrist tells me. Okay.

[181] I can't fucking sit still.

[182] I want to move around.

[183] I know.

[184] But it's, you know, I'm going to sacrifice that for the podcast.

[185] Well, we really appreciate it.

[186] Thank you.

[187] I'm going to speak for everybody.

[188] Thank you.

[189] And myself.

[190] You have a button knows.

[191] Thank you.

[192] And two eyes made out of coal.

[193] Let's see.

[194] Let's see.

[195] I changed our Patreon page and I'm not going to shill or anything, but I'm going to be posting on the blog in there some hometown murders that we are not going to read in our minisodes just for whatever reason.

[196] So go there and look at them.

[197] Okay.

[198] I think it's free.

[199] You pay money to look at them, though, right?

[200] Isn't that the whole idea of a paycheck?

[201] Yeah.

[202] You can give us like a dollar a month or whatever the fuck you feel like.

[203] We heard tell that our podcasting network might be setting us up with a person who knows about stuff like this.

[204] Totally.

[205] You don't have to do it by ourselves anymore.

[206] And, dude, when that comes together, watch how we take over the internet.

[207] Man. We also had, we just ended our last t -shirt sales and we are giving half the money to end the backlog .org.

[208] Nice.

[209] How much is that?

[210] Do I say?

[211] Because what if it's like, that's not, what if they're like, well, it's just a one month sale, right?

[212] We're sending two grand to end the backlog .org.

[213] That's great, right?

[214] That's good.

[215] I don't know more than they fucking had before.

[216] I got so freaked out when I posted like, hey, we're going to get 50 % to end the backlog because I expected people, this is the opposite of what happened, but I expected people to be like, only 50%, you're being so, you're being so greedy.

[217] And then all these people were like, that's so incredible.

[218] I'm like, oh, okay, like, I'm just, just being hard at myself.

[219] I mean, I think it's just weird to be in this position where you can actually put something out, have people buy it, and then actually give money.

[220] That's like a neat, cool thing.

[221] But also, we've never done it before.

[222] So everything feels wrong and bad and weird.

[223] Well, on the Patreon, I put that people, well, maybe we can have, like, votes for, like, what the next shirt design is going to be.

[224] Or also people can vote on what the next charity that we give money to will be.

[225] I wouldn't do that second one.

[226] I mean, once we pick, and then they can vote off them.

[227] Oh, right.

[228] It's not like the KKK or anything.

[229] Great.

[230] That's all I'm looking for is I can't have this.

[231] Please donate to white supremacist groups anymore.

[232] I don't want it.

[233] Yeah.

[234] And I can't have.

[235] You've given them so much of your money, Karen, already.

[236] How dare you?

[237] I give them dime after dime so they can buy their robes.

[238] Oh, man, those robes are not cheap.

[239] No. It's all silk.

[240] That's the one place they don't skimp.

[241] Are they silk?

[242] No, please.

[243] They're not.

[244] I'm just thinking of like, oh, brother, we're art, though.

[245] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[246] They seemed really nice.

[247] Do you have any other housekeeping?

[248] Housekeeping.

[249] I don't think so.

[250] Is there anything else that you love right now?

[251] Anything going on in the news?

[252] We know John Bonnet's brother is good.

[253] Oh, did you watch?

[254] Yes.

[255] You and I both looked at each other at the exact same moment we realized.

[256] Watching that trailer?

[257] That John Bonnet docu series trailer.

[258] We have to watch it together.

[259] I insist you watch it.

[260] Can I tell you something?

[261] What?

[262] A magazine wants us to do a recap every night of it.

[263] Is it white power magazine?

[264] Yes.

[265] Yeah, they want to blame it on.

[266] How much is I going to pay us?

[267] I know.

[268] Money, I think.

[269] Real money.

[270] Oh, then yes.

[271] That's awesome.

[272] I know.

[273] The trailer gave me freaking chills.

[274] Okay, we watched the trailer at work today.

[275] I love the people I work with because they're super into shit like this too.

[276] And when it got to the part, trailer spoiler.

[277] um when it got to the part where they have reconstructed the ramsie's house the room by room recreated down to the detail of shit that was like leaning against the walls life changing these people are going these in these investigators these these very qualified people from all walks of criminal forensics yeah criminality criminality they're going to be able to walk through and talk about and re -stage things that happen.

[278] Do you think they'll come to a conclusion?

[279] Clearly, in the trailer, you can tell that they're going to, they're like, yeah, there was no, this is not an outside job, motherfuckers.

[280] I mean, that's what they're leading you to believe.

[281] That's true.

[282] And then like, oh, they're, oh, when they played the, um, when she hung up the phone and you can hear her in the background.

[283] I still don't hear it.

[284] Do you?

[285] Have you listened to that?

[286] You mean when they say, like, they reduced all the sound and everything.

[287] And they hear her.

[288] say, I'm not talking to you.

[289] Yes.

[290] I still don't hear it.

[291] Do you?

[292] No, but I feel like that's almost like one of those ghost investigation things where they're like, do you hear it?

[293] And then they put the subtitles and you're like, I guess I hear.

[294] If you want me to hear it, I'll hear it.

[295] Totally.

[296] I'll hear whatever you want.

[297] Yeah.

[298] My thing was, um, because everybody at my job, everybody pointed out like the thing that freaked them out or that they like the most.

[299] And mine was that when Patsy Ramsey said I love that child, she did it with their eyes closed.

[300] That was the creepiest part is both of them being, both of them speaking was so fucking eerie.

[301] Yeah.

[302] And two camera, like basically clearly some lawyer said, you have to go out there and tell these people you didn't kill your daughter and you have to make a statement.

[303] And when Patsy Ramdy said, I didn't kill my daughter.

[304] And then she closes her eyes and goes, I love that child.

[305] And then they stay closed.

[306] Like to me that I just love those like, that means something.

[307] I don't know what it means.

[308] Also saying that child means something.

[309] Because it's like, she's not saying my daughter, Jean -Beney.

[310] Yeah.

[311] She's like, not child.

[312] Yeah.

[313] She's like, she can't take ownership of the thing.

[314] Did you ever watch the show lie to me with Tim Roth, where it was all about the person that read micro expressions and it was like a whole company?

[315] No. Oh, I know someone who worked on it that I dated, so I didn't watch it.

[316] Oh, yeah, because you're mad.

[317] No, he was very nice.

[318] Oh, well.

[319] I don't want to step on his stuff.

[320] I just love that show because that's kind of stuff of like being able to interpret what people are really doing underneath how they mask it?

[321] When they point it out and they're like, would they like pause it and be like this thing right here?

[322] And that thing, oh, I love that.

[323] Yeah, yeah.

[324] You should watch that show.

[325] It's pretty good.

[326] I don't know if it's on anything, but.

[327] Okay, well.

[328] Did you catch up on the night of?

[329] We've only got one episode left.

[330] I gotta say, you're out.

[331] Everyone telling me about stuff about it and talking to other people about it has made me want to watch it less.

[332] You're so fucking punk rock, Georgia.

[333] I swear to God, you're just like.

[334] Are you any mean right now?

[335] No. I mean it in that way of like, you're just like, you know what?

[336] I don't have to like it if you like it.

[337] It's a good way to be.

[338] I respect it.

[339] But I think that's how, I think that's what it is where you're like, does everybody like it?

[340] Then everybody can fuck off.

[341] Well, what everyone's telling me about it, thank you.

[342] That actually means a lot to me. But what everyone's telling me about it is like, I don't care about the prison stuff.

[343] I want the trial stuff.

[344] And from what everyone, someone said to me, someone was like, and I'm not going to take responsibility, but I don't remember who said it was like, listen, I watched Orange is a New Black.

[345] I don't need to know what's going on in prison.

[346] Like, I was like, so did I. Totally the same.

[347] It's totally the same.

[348] I just like, I don't, I want to know that the, the way that they find out how the investigation goes, how the trial goes, stuff in prison I don't care about.

[349] Right.

[350] I, you know what?

[351] I feel the same way because I find, and this is, you're going to, this is going to blow your mind, I find prison to be really depressing.

[352] So I don't want to know.

[353] What's wrong with you?

[354] fear going there.

[355] Who hurt you as a child?

[356] I don't.

[357] A prisoner.

[358] It was a warden.

[359] Yeah, I don't, like, I know it's living hell and there are many, many people in this country that are there.

[360] Yeah.

[361] And that's awful to me. Especially people are there that like, oh, it was really hard for me to watch him get taken in to get a lot's a club when you get processed in.

[362] Yeah.

[363] Because it's like, no one gives a shit about you.

[364] You immediately are just trash.

[365] Yeah.

[366] Like the way, you know, when you wait and line it at a post office and you get to the next tell her and you can tell they've had a hard day and they fucking hate everything so you can smile and be nice and so they'll give you a better experience and be happier yeah like you can't do that in prison what am i supposed to do i didn't learn to be polite for nothing it's like i mean and it is like we talk a lot we talk a big game about like send them away because we talk about these specific stories where people cut off 15 year old girls arms and leave them to die and these horrible cases.

[367] And of course, you want Larry Singleton to disappear from the planet.

[368] But the reality of a human being in a prison is a nightmare.

[369] And so I'm not saying, I'm not a hypocrite or that I can't rectify those two things.

[370] But it's, yeah, watching it.

[371] What I love it in that show is that they're laying in, it's just really good writing.

[372] And I really like to watch good writing.

[373] It makes me feel smart.

[374] And again, I'll say it for the millionth time.

[375] Riz Ahmed, I don't.

[376] Someone made a made a, made a, I want his DNA inside me. A couple of people made it.

[377] Someone made a Valentine last week I said, your serial killer Valentine.

[378] Yeah.

[379] Yeah.

[380] I said, I want his DNA inside me, meaning I want to have his baby because he's so cute that I want like that.

[381] But it just didn't sound like that.

[382] No, it's literally the most not cute kind of disgusting thing, but that's not what you meant.

[383] Okay, you know what I don't like about?

[384] I don't like innocent people in prison.

[385] People like Larry Singleton deserve to be in prison good, have a fucking horrible time.

[386] But innocent people, oh my God, that terrifies me. It's horrible and it happens and we all know what happens and it's incredibly stressful.

[387] Yeah, all right.

[388] But I like it.

[389] It's, to me, it's worth the stress and there's things that are happening and are exciting.

[390] I won't not try it.

[391] It does disappoint me. I mean, I don't know what happened.

[392] Maybe I'll watch the last episode.

[393] Is that okay?

[394] Can I do that?

[395] Yeah, it's your life.

[396] Jump in, jump out.

[397] I don't know.

[398] Yeah.

[399] Can they please bring the family back on ABC?

[400] That's all I ask.

[401] Is that all you want this Christmas?

[402] That's all I want for Hanukkah Christmas.

[403] Hey, this is exciting.

[404] An all -new season of only murders in the building is coming to Hulu on August 27th.

[405] Steve Martin, Martin Short, and Selena Gomez are back as your favorite podcaster, detectives.

[406] But there's a mystery hanging over everyone.

[407] Who killed Saz?

[408] And were they really after Charles?

[409] Why would someone want to kill Charles?

[410] This season, murder hits close to home, with, the threat against one of their own, the stakes are higher than ever.

[411] Plus, the gang is going to Hollywood to turn their podcast into a major movie.

[412] Amid the glitz and glamour of Los Angeles, more mysteries and twists arise.

[413] Who knows what will happen once the cameras start to roll?

[414] Get ready for the stariest season yet with Merrill Streep, Zach Alfinacus, Eugene Levy, Eva Longoria, Melissa McCarthy, DeVine, Joy Randolph, Molly Shannon, and more.

[415] Only Martyrs in the Building, premieres August 27th, streaming only on Hulu.

[416] Goodbye.

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[438] Goodbye.

[439] All right, I think that's it, right?

[440] That's got to be it.

[441] Is there anything you need to talk about?

[442] Yeah, is this, are we now is 45 minutes in?

[443] Basically.

[444] I'm first this week, right?

[445] Okay, go.

[446] Tell me. I think I am.

[447] Mine is short, too, so take your time.

[448] Okay.

[449] Mine is, I wish I had four months to read.

[450] research this.

[451] Because the first time I heard of this murder, I thought, oh, who cares?

[452] Not about the people, but that's not my style.

[453] Yeah, I get that.

[454] Like, as we've said a million times, but like, silence of the lambs is my ideal murder everything situation.

[455] You've got a weird serial killer that's got an M .O. and a, and a, and a, a whole plan and a creepiness.

[456] Yeah.

[457] And that, like, plan has always been this crazy way it's not like he's it's not a one -off it's not a crime of passion it's not whatever that's i find that extreme criminal mind thing fascinating okay um so when i first heard about this crime i was like oh that's not that's not my thing at all um and then but it kept coming back like you i would see it every once while looking for other stuff and then i finally started looking into it and it is so fascinating all right Right.

[458] So it's the Lulu Lemon murder.

[459] Oh, yes.

[460] In Bethesda, Maryland.

[461] That is fascinating.

[462] I didn't know that.

[463] I know.

[464] That is definitely not one that I would have looked into.

[465] Okay.

[466] I'm excited.

[467] Me too.

[468] Thanks.

[469] Thank you.

[470] So I first heard of it.

[471] I think it was like a year ago or something.

[472] I was doing Tignatoros.

[473] Tignito has a comedy festival every year called the Benson Ball in D .C., which is where she's from.

[474] And so whoever was driving us to the theater that night, we drove down the street and we passed a Lululemon.

[475] I don't think it was the one we were driving by because Bethesda, I believe, is north of Washington, D .C., but he brought it up and told the story.

[476] Love him.

[477] And he basically just said, oh, did you hear about that really terrible crime that happened at Lulu Lemon?

[478] It was really bad, you know, and it was basically one of the employees killed another one.

[479] And so I was just like, you know what?

[480] I know now we're talking yoga pants.

[481] We're talking karma passion.

[482] I'm not interested in any of this.

[483] For anyone listening to doesn't know Lulu Lemon is a fucking high end kind of when I see girls wearing yoga pants with Lulu Lemon, I'm like, oh, you spent a lot of money on yoga pants and didn't buy him a right aid.

[484] Yeah.

[485] Like you're better than me. Crazy expensive.

[486] Like they're almost, it's like Louis Vuitton of yoga pants, which is a hilarious paradox of this is yoga.

[487] Yeah.

[488] And they have the, like, the, like, a logo out so you can see them.

[489] Oh, hell yeah.

[490] You know what I mean?

[491] Yes.

[492] Instead of hiding your shame, they put it out there.

[493] Right.

[494] So when I first Googled this, a couple Huffington Post articles came up, and one that I really liked is by a girl name, believe it or not, Elizabeth Lickrish.

[495] And great, that's a great stage name.

[496] Yeah.

[497] And she's amazing.

[498] She's all red and her skin is twisted.

[499] Uh -huh.

[500] No. No. Cancel it.

[501] Stephen Mark it.

[502] Delete that.

[503] Delete that.

[504] Steveen mark that concept.

[505] Oh, okay.

[506] So she wrote an article called Lulu Lemon's cult culture, get fit or die trying.

[507] So this girl started working at Lulu Lemon.

[508] That's how you pronounce it, right?

[509] Lulu Lemon?

[510] Yeah.

[511] I don't give a fucking shit that you.

[512] It sounds right.

[513] It's how it's spelled and that's what I assumed.

[514] Lulamon.

[515] Lulamon.

[516] I think it's Lulamon.

[517] Lulamon.

[518] But there's an extra.

[519] Lulamon would be, there's too many.

[520] lose.

[521] All right.

[522] So I think it's the lemon.

[523] Let's call it.

[524] Let's not give a shit.

[525] Okay.

[526] All right.

[527] I think you're right.

[528] It has, this girl worked there.

[529] And so she's talking about what a creepy, like, culture this business has.

[530] Which is very funny because like when I worked at the gap in the 90s and I only worked there for a year, I really hated it.

[531] But it is this thing where they want you as a person that's getting paid shit.

[532] And mostly working part time so they don't have to give you full -time benefits, all that stuff.

[533] But they still want you to really dig into this, like, yeah, this, um, the culture, the retail culture of like, and if you sell this, you'll get this and we have to get our numbers up here.

[534] Meanwhile, Don Fisher, the owner at the time, was making like billions of dollars.

[535] Fuck you.

[536] So it's so I can see where that was in the 90s.

[537] It's now, you know, 20 years later.

[538] And they have refined this concept.

[539] So it's like branding and marketing and, you know, lifestyle.

[540] choices and it's all that kind of thing where they don't call you an employee they call you like the team member or whatever the fuck the thigh master um so this girl yeah this girl worked there and talked about um but she said lulu lemon wants you to know it's elevating the world from mediocrity to greatness and creating components for people to live long healthy and fun lives but if you dig deeper you find about yeah you can't do that and fucking pansy about a target Come on, man. No, no, no. No, you have to get really superficial to rise above mediocrity.

[541] But if you dig deeper, you'll find you'll learn about Landmark Forum.

[542] No, they don't.

[543] Yes.

[544] Which is the ultra -secretive, eerily cultish educational series, which Lulu Lemon employees are strongly encouraged to attend.

[545] Shut up.

[546] Yes.

[547] Now, I have a friend who did Landmark Forum and is like, I believe in it.

[548] I think it's great.

[549] And I said, yeah, but isn't it a crazy pyramid scheme where you basically have to bring people in and you spend thousands of dollars?

[550] And he goes, yeah, but I just didn't do that.

[551] Like, I got what I wanted and I left.

[552] And I'm like, well, you're a strong -willed person.

[553] Yeah.

[554] But I think it's one of those things that like, it's like est or anything that just, it makes money off of people kind of going, this is the answer to my life.

[555] And then trying to get everyone they know into it.

[556] So they encourage their employees to go to the landmark forum, which is bizarre.

[557] to me. It's so bizarre.

[558] And before you're in line for Landmark, you're bombarded with Brian Tracy Motivational CDs and a book club club that culminates with Atlas Shrugged.

[559] Oh, shit.

[560] So it's not, it's so culty.

[561] It's like get that money and get yours and empowerment, but in this weird culty way, which also it's like, this is your job, this is your retail job.

[562] Yeah.

[563] Yeah.

[564] So they, she said it, all of it made walking into work feel like she was time traveling to Salem because with the Lulu Lemon Creed and catechism comes a collective mentality that thrives on scapegoats and leads you feeling worthless if you subsist on anything but spring water and kale.

[565] Once another employee sneered at me from across the floor and said the soda I happened to be enjoying would rot me from the inside.

[566] out.

[567] Eventually we were all issued reusable acrylic cups and forbidden to drink anything but water.

[568] Oh my God.

[569] Stop it.

[570] So this is, I'm just trying to paint a little bit of a picture and I really encourage if you're slightly interested in this to look up these articles because it's pretty fascinating how many directions that goes in of.

[571] Yeah, that sounds like a fun read.

[572] Yeah.

[573] Well, and just the intensity of a retail job.

[574] This is.

[575] Like it bums me out so much.

[576] to think what people expect from you when they're not willing to give you any respect at all or...

[577] Right.

[578] Every about, and when you work there, everything about you is inventoried and measured in terms of authenticity and integrity, which sounds reasonable until you realize your yoga mats on a sweaty, slippery slope, that missing your extra, that's this, I'm still reading the article, missing your extracurricular kickboxing class, taking too long to pee during your break or falling to throw, or failing to throw, a kitchen party, and then she says in parentheses, don't ask.

[579] What?

[580] In the fitting room means you're deficient in character and devoid of morals.

[581] What's a kitchen party?

[582] I'm going to ask.

[583] We have to find out.

[584] But it's like, I think it's in, you know, it's secret in -house language.

[585] Those girls happen to just be older, sportier versions of seriously cutthroat sorority sisters.

[586] Wow.

[587] So that's one person's take about what it felt like to work there.

[588] So what's kind of To go along with that This company has had a lot of controversies since they started It's a Canadian company They opened in Well in 2002 to mark the opening of their second store in Vancouver They offered a free outfit to anyone Who would stand naked on the street for 30 seconds Are you fucking How about for people who can't afford them And are homeless, you fucking assholes but like also so it's a store that's mostly women's clothing yeah and you're basically trying to get ladies to stand around naked so you give them their $140 yoga pants like so sad you're asking them to exploit themselves yeah oh my god um that same owner i can't find his name right now he in an interview with the national post business magazine which sounds very canadian to me but i'm not sure he said he purposely named it lulu lemon with lots of ls because quote it's funny to watch Japanese people try to say.

[589] He also once blogged that breast cancer, quote, came into prominence in the 1990s due to all the cigarette smoking power women who were on the pill and taking on the stress previously left to men in their working world.

[590] I am going to Lulu murder you.

[591] You piece of shit.

[592] Sorry.

[593] That guy's name, I'm trying to, oh, that guy's name is Chip Wilson and of course later on, everybody heard about the they in, I think it was 2011, oh no, 2013, they had to recall their line of Luan yoga pants because they were see -through.

[594] I remember that?

[595] They were see -through.

[596] I've seen girls G -strings from behind yoga before.

[597] And then that same CEO when he was interviewed on Bloomberg TV about it, he asked, he was asked what the nature of the pants recall was.

[598] He said, quite frankly some women's bodies just don't work for it it's more about the rubbing through the thighs how much pressure there is over a period of time you fucking dick so he's basically saying if you're not emaciated you can't wear our yoga pants and if you do it's your fault yeah yeah so he's a superstar after he said that of course he was asked to step down from being the CEO because it's you know at the time it was 2013 so I'm sorry sir that it's not 19 45 anymore.

[599] You can take that shit elsewhere.

[600] In 2007, they had a line of clothing called Vita C, SEA, which the company said was made from seaweed fiber.

[601] And according to the tags, they said it released marine amino acids, minerals and vitamins into the skin upon contact with moisture.

[602] Did it stink?

[603] Reducing stress and providing anti -inflammatory, antibacterial, hydrating, and detoxifying benefits.

[604] Bullshit.

[605] So the New York Times, that's exactly right the new york times commissioned a laboratory test of a shirt made from vitacy and um there was no significant difference in mineral levels between the vitacy fabric and a plain cotton t -shirt in other words the labs found no evidence of seaweed in the lulu lemon clothing at all to do that we're not done in 2008 a mother and daughter found a hidden message in the shopping bag underneath the layer of inspirational quotes such as friends are more important than money.

[606] There was a second note that said, quote, some brief or quick fix instance.

[607] Whoa, start over.

[608] Some brief or quick fix incidences when our minds are clear to be creative are when drunk or stoned or just after an orgasm.

[609] What does that mean?

[610] Okay.

[611] So they're promoting being drunk or stoned or orgasms.

[612] Or having an orgasm so that you can be creative.

[613] How did they find that?

[614] This is inside a yoga pants bag.

[615] So they had this, it turned out that they had printed this up initially.

[616] People saw it and were like, what the fuck are you doing here?

[617] Well, the other quotes were, the athletes high is the most long lasting as it can last up to six hours.

[618] And there's a little difference between addicts and fanatic athletes.

[619] Both are continually searching for a way to remain in a creative state.

[620] So it was all this weird.

[621] They were very pro.

[622] drugs and sex, and then a couple people got the bags and were like, what's wrong with you guys?

[623] This is a yoga pants store.

[624] So they took the bags and just sewed over them with friendship is more important than money, but all you had to do is wash the bag a couple times, and then the other label came out.

[625] Oh, I bet those are worth some money on eBay.

[626] It's pretty hilarious.

[627] And also creepy.

[628] Like you're getting these weird messages.

[629] Anyway.

[630] Yeah.

[631] And they just, the answer back when that happened was not an apology.

[632] They were basically like, we're about speaking our mind.

[633] We're about living in this, having new ideas and new experiences.

[634] And they basically were like, yeah, we do what we want.

[635] We're trying to inspire people.

[636] So.

[637] Oh, my God.

[638] So.

[639] How did they get?

[640] Yeah.

[641] I have.

[642] Yeah.

[643] Go on.

[644] Just how you're saying?

[645] How?

[646] Yeah.

[647] But also, but also good for them.

[648] But don't shop there.

[649] Like, I don't, they can do that.

[650] It's fine.

[651] You can do that.

[652] Like, here's, There's a thing.

[653] Yoga is a practice that's about connecting to yourself and connecting, you know, having a body -mind connection so that you are more in yourself and calmer, more normal.

[654] It's not about spending money.

[655] It's not about being better than your sorority sister.

[656] But to get a mantra for Transcendental Meditation is fucking three grand.

[657] Like, how do you, how do they?

[658] Well, no, that's based on how much money you make.

[659] But I mean, I'm not defending it because it's, it costs money.

[660] But what I'm saying is this is, this is, a store that's creating that culture of you will spend money always.

[661] And you will spend money on bullshit because we're going to lie straight to your face and say that our clothes are made of detoxifying seaweed.

[662] That's crazy.

[663] So anyway, that's just a little background.

[664] So the worst thing that happened to them, of course, was in 2011, on the morning of March 12th.

[665] An employee entered their store, the Bethesda, Maryland store, and she, She actually went in, she heard something inside, I think it said.

[666] And so she went and got a guy off the street and said, you have to go in there and check.

[667] I'm supposed to open the store and there's weird noises.

[668] And the guy walked in to like a bloody scene.

[669] And it turned out that Brittany Norwood and Jana Murray were lying in the store.

[670] Jana was dead.

[671] And Brittany was tied up, bound hands and feet.

[672] Jenna had a rope around her neck and hammer knife wounds to her head.

[673] Holy shit.

[674] And she had been repeatedly struck with a metal stand.

[675] Later on, the medical examiner found out she had 330 distinct wounds on her body.

[676] Oh, my God.

[677] How long would that take to hit someone 330 times?

[678] And how much rage and how personal?

[679] That's like 10 minutes of hitting.

[680] It's insane overkill.

[681] Yeah.

[682] So, um, when they, when the cop touch Brittany, she flinched and then she tells the story that the night before they closed the shop and then she'd gone to, um, I'm saying Jana, but I think it's Jana.

[683] Did I say Jana?

[684] I think it's Jana.

[685] So she'd gone to Jana and said, I need to go back in.

[686] I forgot something.

[687] And when they went back in, two masked, um, attackers came, like, stormed into the store.

[688] Whoops, storm the store.

[689] with guns and attack them and Britney said raped them and tied them up and killed Jaina and left her for dead.

[690] Had she been hit at all or her?

[691] Yeah, she had injuries too.

[692] Okay.

[693] And her pants were slid at the crotch.

[694] It all looked very bad.

[695] So...

[696] It all looked very bad.

[697] Okay.

[698] So...

[699] Sorry, I have to scroll down on my dumb thing.

[700] So, of course, panic set off, because this is apparently a super high -end area, like, because that's how those stores are always in, like, really.

[701] So people are freaking out, like, there's no violent crime in that area at all.

[702] Immediately the cops are set up a manhunt.

[703] There's a $150 ,000 reward for anyone with information leading to an arrest.

[704] It's, like, big and huge.

[705] And they start talking to people around the name.

[706] neighborhood, and they talked to these employees at the Apple store, which was right next door.

[707] And these employees say that, yes, they heard two women arguing and yelling and some weird thumping and fighting noises the night before, but they never called 911.

[708] How do you...

[709] They didn't get asked that question in court, which of course, because it's like, ultimately it's not about them and what they did or didn't do, aside from, I'm sure they struggle with it, because it's hideous.

[710] but yeah they didn't and then somebody included in one of these articles that I read it was this really awesome thing about how when you are when you have a phone or a computer or something that distracts you you are you are like some percentage I won't make up and I'll just be honest that I don't know it but like a very high percentage less likely to get involved with anything happening around you so they're in an Apple store so it's probably like weird noise weird noise could go back to playing YATC with friends or whatever on your phone.

[711] I don't know if I would, like, how would you get involved?

[712] It just so depends on the situation.

[713] If you can't expect people to be being, you know, getting murdered.

[714] No. If you hear a fight, you're not like, I'm going to go make sure no one's getting murdered.

[715] No, not at all.

[716] And especially in that area.

[717] No, it's a weird thing.

[718] I'm sure they had never had any experience like that.

[719] No. And that's not, they probably were like, oh, no, those girls are fighting next door at the end.

[720] That's what they thought.

[721] It's just unfortunate because, you know, even just a call to say, maybe you should just go check.

[722] It's that thing of, like, people aren't willing to just risk being wrong, which is sad.

[723] Or not being able to read a situation correctly.

[724] I mean, the way a couple of these articles talked about it, there was, like, extended thumping and fight sounds.

[725] No, yeah, you should have checked that out.

[726] At one point, they heard a woman scream, oh, please, God help me. What the fuck, okay, no, you should have fucking gone over there.

[727] I guess I buried the lead on that one.

[728] I should have brought that up earlier.

[729] Oh, my God.

[730] All right.

[731] So, yeah, go on.

[732] Yeah.

[733] So, even if you're not sure, you roll the dice.

[734] Okay, so, so from that, they realize that these employees only heard two women the entire time.

[735] They don't, they don't hear anything about men's voices.

[736] They don't hear anything else.

[737] So they're suspicious.

[738] Also, there's this really awesome statistic I found that I know the exact number four.

[739] According to the Bureau of the Justice of Statistics.

[740] No, no. According to the Bureau of Justice statistics, only 15 % of homicides are committed by someone who doesn't know the victim.

[741] 15%.

[742] 15%.

[743] That's crazy.

[744] So in some ways, relax.

[745] Right.

[746] Because it's very, very small.

[747] Except don't, because your fucking family is going to murder you.

[748] It's going to be your husband with that milkshake.

[749] I wonder if that's the reason why we're so fascinated with stranger murders.

[750] What?

[751] The cord?

[752] Yeah.

[753] Okay.

[754] Oh, I think you're, are you hitting it with her?

[755] Like, okay.

[756] I wonder if that's why we're so fascinated about stranger murders is because they're so rare.

[757] Yes.

[758] And so they sound like there are a lot more of them, but in actuality, it's not.

[759] Yeah, everyone talks about the ones that happen because they're so crazy and weird.

[760] So it seems like they're more likely.

[761] That's really interesting.

[762] Yeah.

[763] So the cops know this.

[764] I mean, the cops, the cops, they say that all the time on like 2020 or whatever, where it's like you always look to the husband, the wife, the friends, the people that they know.

[765] So, um, one of the big breaks in the case, uh, was that they looked in Jana, Jana's car.

[766] And Jane's the murder victim?

[767] She's the victim.

[768] Um, so they process her car and they find Brittany, uh, Britney's, um, DNA in the car.

[769] And then they ask Brittany, have you ever been in Jane's car?

[770] And she said no. man. I love when they fucking trap someone like that.

[771] Or if you had just said yes right, you would not have been a suspect.

[772] But they never do because they were in the car so they're trying to cover.

[773] They think that lie is going to get them out of it.

[774] And yeah, that's the greatest.

[775] I love that.

[776] So, um, also they realized they had had all the test processed and Brittany had said that they were both raped by these masked men.

[777] But when the test came back, they, sign of rape.

[778] On either of them.

[779] There was no, you know, evidence of it.

[780] Yeah, there was all of the normal things that they find.

[781] No penetration.

[782] No. On either of them.

[783] Okay.

[784] And also her wounds were few and superficial.

[785] Right.

[786] Yeah.

[787] If you're going to hit someone 300 something times and the other person just gets a little Yeah, that's crazy and balanced.

[788] And also because then that's like there's some crime of passion taking place.

[789] yeah so there is an intended victim yes exactly okay um and also then they realize the for the angles they start studying the angles of the of the wounds clearly self -inflicted and she tied herself up it was all they start looking back on it staged yeah now there were in the blood there were two shoe prints jana's shoe prints were not in the blood uh brittney's shoe prints were in the blood and a size 14 men man's shoe one set of men's shoes were in the blood so not two like she said she grabbed some shoes off the fucking shelf that's exactly right son of a bitch and walked around through as if a man was walking through what an idiot that she didn't grab both the fucking show oh because it's like the display pair right oh my god it's like brilliant and so stupid at the same time well it's that thing of like you are you can't cover up a murder you can't you just can't you're not as smart as you think you are.

[790] You can't.

[791] And also, cops have seen it a million times.

[792] Like, they know what they're looking at and what looks weird and what doesn't.

[793] So, ultimately, they basically get her to start talking.

[794] And it turns out, six days after the crime actually happened, it was the same night of Jane's Memorial.

[795] They arrest Brittany Norwood for first degree murder.

[796] And so, basically, they figure out that that day Brittany had been caught shoplifting a pair of yoga pants by Jaina and that's what caused that was the inciting incident obviously much more was going on for her to get stabbed over 300 times and they said she used five different weapons all found within the store Oh my God Yeah.

[797] And there was a blood trail that showed how Jaina tried to escape through the back door.

[798] And she had 107 defensive wounds.

[799] Oh, my God.

[800] And they said that that was the most that medical examiner had ever seen on a victim.

[801] Wow.

[802] So this was a crazy and horrible and extended period of time where this murder happened.

[803] Now, here's the creepiest part to me is.

[804] Brittany goes, clearly just goes fucking berserk snaps.

[805] She gets caught now she's in that, she's out of this system.

[806] She has, she's the worst of the worst.

[807] If you're bad for drinking diet Coke on the floor, imagine what getting caught shoplifting would be like in that culture at that store.

[808] Also, I don't think, uh, it was probably very easy because Brittany was black.

[809] And, uh, I don't know what the percentages were of people who, were black that worked at Lulu Lemon, but I bet that was an element in it.

[810] I'm sure that there was something that brought to the table.

[811] There was other articles that talked about how she had stalked her boyfriend.

[812] I think she had, she was definitely maybe a borderline personality.

[813] She had definitely had some issues, whatever.

[814] But this girl viciously and insanely murders her coworker and then lays down in blood for hours and hours until she gets discovered.

[815] Crazy.

[816] In the same room as a dead body.

[817] I mean, that's the creepy level of that.

[818] Oh, and also she went and moved, because when she called Jaina back to let her back into the store, Jena was double parked.

[819] So she had to go get into her car and she went and parked it down like a couple blocks away.

[820] And that's how they got that DNA of hers in there.

[821] So essentially, she had 10 hours.

[822] hours to stage and plan this, this crime and, and figure it all out.

[823] Um, so anyway, she was convicted in an hour.

[824] Oh my God.

[825] Um, they tried to say that she was insane and they were like, no, sorry, this was insanely premeditated.

[826] I mean, that's bad phrasing.

[827] Uh, this was very premeditated and obviously, you know, she tried to cover it up so she knew it was a, yes.

[828] Oh, yes.

[829] exactly um and i guess oh so she was got she got a life sentence and with no possibility of parole uh so it turned out that the lulu lemon murder was much more fascinating than i could ever imagine it yeah i thought she just like went in there and shot her like i didn't even know any of the details no it was grisly as hell yeah and just that the element like the the pressury sales sorority sister element of it is fascinating to me somebody there's a guy that wrote a book his name's david morse and it's called the this is going to be wrong i want to say it's called the yoga pants murder but that's not going to be right the yoga store murder there we go so close oh are there are there crime scene photos i'm sure there are but but i want to see them without the body so i'm not that fucked up they wanted to show the crime scene photos when they were trying to pick the jury and they the um I think was it when they were trying to pick the jury I guess that doesn't really make sense but they were basically trying to introduce these photos and like the defense fought it because they're so awful her skull was cracked her spine was severed oh I don't want to see that I mean it's terrible I mean you know she was stabbed over 300 times it's insane it's horrifying holy shit yeah so there you go Namaste.

[830] Namaste.

[831] Namaste, Karen.

[832] Namaste, everybody.

[833] Should we end on an oom?

[834] Um, well, ohm, well, Ready for mine?

[835] Yeah.

[836] Okay.

[837] Mine is about the tent girl and the Doe Network.

[838] What?

[839] Doe as in deer?

[840] No, D -O -E as in like Jane Do.

[841] Oh, oh.

[842] Like dough a dead body.

[843] A female dead body.

[844] Oh my God, I had to.

[845] You did it.

[846] Did it.

[847] Did it.

[848] All right.

[849] So on May 17th, 1968, a well digger named Wilbur Riddle was killing time between jobs, picking up glass insulators on a dirt road.

[850] It was just outside Lexington, Kentucky.

[851] So he's scavenging.

[852] Sure.

[853] He comes across a large green tarpaulin, and that was commonly used.

[854] by carnival workers to store the big, like the big top tensen.

[855] And inside, he finds a new decomposing body of a young woman.

[856] She appeared to be in her teens and she had been dead for months.

[857] They couldn't figure out her exact cause of death, but it was thought that she'd been knocked out with a load of the head and then tied up inside the bag to slowly suffocate.

[858] And the way they knew this is that her nails were worn down and broken.

[859] Oh, no. As if she had been trying to escape.

[860] Nightmare.

[861] Yes.

[862] She couldn't be identified and became known as the Tent Girl.

[863] Sorry, is 68, you said?

[864] Yeah.

[865] It became a local legend, and her grave had a headstone that they had put the, a sketch of the, what the police had sketched what she might have looked like.

[866] And it said, Tent Girl found May 17th, 1968 on highway, U .S. Highway 25 North, died about April, like all these weird statistics about her, unidentified.

[867] So it was a place where local teens would visit to cause trouble and to scare each other.

[868] And like on Halloween you had, at night, you had to go touch the gravestone and run away and stuff.

[869] And so a couple decades later, there's a teenager who moves into town named Todd Matthews.

[870] And he hears about the story of tent girl by a girl who's got a crush on.

[871] Nine months later, he and this girl get married.

[872] And it turns out her name is Lori Riddle.

[873] Her father was Wilbel Riddle who found tent girl.

[874] Ooh.

[875] So Todd Matthews becomes obsessed with the case.

[876] And for decades, he's determined to find out the true identity of tent girl.

[877] Todd's two siblings had died at birth.

[878] And it really stuck with him.

[879] And so he says that he felt like tent girl had become his sibling until he could find her real family, which is so fucking sweet.

[880] I might cry.

[881] So when the internet's created, he saves up enough money for, he like works low income jobs, saves up enough money to buy a computer, and then he trolls chat rooms and search engines and missing personal listings searching for details that match tent girl.

[882] And he creates a website devoted to finding her identity.

[883] And this is before any of like a web sleuthing shit is going on.

[884] Like in his mind, he's just going to email as many people as possible until he finds out who this missing person is.

[885] So cut to the night, January 1998.

[886] And Todd has been online for hours looking at random stuff when he comes across a classified ad from a woman who's searching for her missing 24 -year -old sister, Barbara Ann Hackman Taylor.

[887] He, Todd sees the three words.

[888] He, Todd sees the three words, It's Lexington, 1967, missing, and he knows it's her immediately.

[889] So in December, 1967, 24 -year -old Barbara Ann Hackman was a mother and a waitress.

[890] She had married young and then mysteriously disappeared.

[891] And they thought it was a teenager originally when they found the body, but she was actually 24, which is just another reason, like, why cops, like, it wouldn't have taken someone an amateur to find this person because you're looking for a teenager, you're not going to find someone with totally different statistics.

[892] Right, right.

[893] You know what I mean?

[894] Yeah.

[895] They won't fall into that category for you.

[896] So Matthews arranged to have tent girls' body exhumed and in April 1998 DNA tests prove that Barbara Ann Hackman is tent girl.

[897] Wow.

[898] I know.

[899] The family chooses to have Barbara's remains kept in the original spot with the original headstone.

[900] They just added a little stone underneath with her real name, nickname date of birth, presumed date of death, and the inscription -loving mother, grandmother, and sister.

[901] Oh.

[902] I know.

[903] Which is a grandmother at 24?

[904] No. I think she had her baby, her daughter, and now she was a grandmother.

[905] Got it.

[906] Yeah.

[907] So, all right.

[908] That was really stupid.

[909] Sorry.

[910] No, I get it.

[911] I love you for it.

[912] I totally get it.

[913] It sounds like, I thought that Ku Klux Klan Net Roves were made out of silk earlier when you said it.

[914] So we're good.

[915] You never know.

[916] don't really.

[917] I can't say if they are or they are.

[918] I'm going to go ahead and say absolutely fucking not.

[919] Then probably not.

[920] All right.

[921] So he died before tent girl was identified, but Barbara's husband, George Earl Taylor, never filed a missing person's report, and he told Barbara's family that she had left him for another man. Mm -mm.

[922] Yeah.

[923] All right.

[924] So you know how she was fucking found in a tarpaulin?

[925] Am I saying that right?

[926] That was commonly used by carnival workers to store big tents.

[927] Guess what George's job was.

[928] He was an accountant.

[929] Was he an accountant?

[930] Did he work at REI?

[931] Carnival worker.

[932] He was a carnival worker.

[933] He died of cancer in October, 1987, and I hope he rots in hell.

[934] Good.

[935] Good.

[936] Go fuck yourself.

[937] Go fuck yourself.

[938] Uh, isn't that crazy?

[939] Like, what is, what a, there's nothing, besides, like, besides fingerprints that could have, like, made it more of a, like, here's who done it.

[940] Yeah.

[941] I mean, did they, well.

[942] Karen, don't question.

[943] I won't.

[944] Do they play, did they, like, tie it back to the carnival he was working at?

[945] Did he maybe?

[946] No, I just meant, like, at the time when they found her, did they take that tarpulin or whatever it's called evidence and then go interview some carnival work?

[947] Right.

[948] See what local carnival was in.

[949] town?

[950] And then it could that be the third season of true detective, this story of like the Carnies?

[951] Those are very questions.

[952] I was just excited that they had put that together, but gosh, I wish they had done that before he died of cancer.

[953] Yeah.

[954] Yeah, that's a good point.

[955] But I mean, yeah.

[956] Well, shit.

[957] Okay.

[958] Can I do a different story?

[959] No. I'm kidding.

[960] All right.

[961] So, so the ending of this is pretty amazing that Todd Matthews goes on to help create the Doe Network, which I'm obsessed with.

[962] It's an online database containing thousands of profiles for unidentified.

[963] identified doze.

[964] Jane and John Doe's and baby doze.

[965] And amateur sleuths try to connect unidentified bodies with missing people.

[966] Like people who are like nurses and fucking janitors and all these crazy people who like are doing this for free and their free time just sit there and try to find matching characteristics to get these people found and get them, you know, identified.

[967] So is it like web sleuthing where anyone can do it?

[968] And you just enter the information?

[969] They started, they started regulating it because I think that a lot of, um, a lot of police were getting annoyed with all the calls they were getting like, I think it's this person.

[970] I think it's that person.

[971] So there's like for each, each town or each city, there's, there's like a main person that, and it has to get through like a crazy vetting process now.

[972] So I feel like, I think this missing person is this unidentified body.

[973] They have to like, it has to be checked out by like a bunch of people who have been certified by the donut work to do that.

[974] But yeah, you can kind of just like look for, it's almost like that game where you, what was the memory one where you turn over a face and you turn it back over and you have to remember where the face is.

[975] Yeah.

[976] It's called memory.

[977] Thank you.

[978] So he also co -founded NAM us.

[979] It's, I think it's supposed to be NAM us, but there's no E, the National Missing and Unidentified Persons System.

[980] And another thing they do is they, they hire, or they people who, who are, who draw portraits and stuff just for free, like can, we'll take a, a dead body and sketch out what the face would look like or take a missing person and sketch out what their face would look like now.

[981] Oh.

[982] And they all do it for free.

[983] Wow.

[984] It's pretty amazing.

[985] Next place where we give money for the T -shirts, I don't know.

[986] We can discuss it.

[987] We can.

[988] You can vote on Patreon, maybe.

[989] If Karen is cool with Ku Klux Klan, maybe getting that money.

[990] How dare you accuse me of that?

[991] Because she loves it.

[992] All right.

[993] So as of 2007, I couldn't find any more recent statistics.

[994] There's a approximately 40 ,000 unidentified human remains stowed in backrooms of morgues, buried before they're identified, and buried in unmarked graves across the country.

[995] What's that number?

[996] 40 ,000.

[997] Shit.

[998] And that's 2007.

[999] The National Crime Information Center records nearly 90 ,000 missing people at any given time.

[1000] So 40 ,000 of those unmarked, unidentified people, you know, their websites list 70 successful identity resolutions that the site has assisted with.

[1001] Oh, that's nice.

[1002] 36 had occurred within the first five years.

[1003] And Tent Girl was the first case to be identified by use of the internet.

[1004] Wow.

[1005] Isn't that incredible?

[1006] Todd Matthews.

[1007] He just, like, was an obsessive -compulsive with this case.

[1008] And because of that, so many families have been able to find out what happened to their loved ones.

[1009] And I'm so fascinated with those stories of, like, she left home one day and we, you You know, we thought we'd hear from her again, and we didn't, and we don't know if she's alive or not.

[1010] Yeah.

[1011] She might have just fucking moved on and hated our dad and, you know.

[1012] Right.

[1013] But then they find, they're like, you know, by the side of the road, this person with this crazy tattoo is found, and why can't we identify this person?

[1014] And so they put all this stuff in the in the thing.

[1015] That's very cool.

[1016] Yeah.

[1017] Tent girl.

[1018] There's a photo of her.

[1019] It looks a lot like the drawing.

[1020] Sad, right.

[1021] Well, yeah, but it's.

[1022] like the tragedy that something good came out of.

[1023] It's very cool.

[1024] I know.

[1025] And also it's nice that idea that like, yeah, that's if you have, it's just so nice for the families.

[1026] Like that, that idea of just not knowing is so torturous.

[1027] Yeah.

[1028] And I've kind of been wanting to do, I've been thinking a lot lately about like, what can I, how can I volunteer my time in some way that we're, this true crime thing we're doing?

[1029] And I'm like, you know, do I work for, do I go a volunteer for women's shelter?

[1030] or something like that and I feel like that's what these people are doing is they're like for no, they're not making any money, they have jobs, they don't need them, they just want to help find, it's just they're really into these crazy puzzles and piecing these things together and they just do it.

[1031] And if you have that specific ability of like you can draw a picture of what they last look like or whatever, it's like everybody pitching in what their specific talent is.

[1032] Yeah.

[1033] Yeah, that's very cool.

[1034] I like that.

[1035] So maybe I'll, maybe I'll do something like that.

[1036] And I can't draw, but I can look at tattoos and remember if they were found on dead bodies or not do it i'm really good at that remembering no um yeah nice so that was short one but i thought it was important no that was cool i like that it like it's good information yeah that's a good one totally um do you want to read another hometown we did a minisode but should we end with a hometown oh yeah i was just thinking hold on really quick Okay, what are you thinking?

[1037] I have Guy Branham's hometown murder and I'd forgotten.

[1038] Oh my goodness!

[1039] It's two minutes.

[1040] Let's listen to it.

[1041] Guy Brannum, I love him.

[1042] This is my friend, Guy Brannum, who is a hilarious stand -up comedian.

[1043] You may know him from Chelsea lately.

[1044] You may know him from, he's been in a million things.

[1045] And I asked him about his hometown murder from Yuba City, California.

[1046] Here's what he said.

[1047] So I'm from New City, California, and there was this guy named Juan Corona, who was a migrant farm worker.

[1048] He was like the guy who coordinated migrant farm workers for the farmers.

[1049] And he had this brother who was gay who had a Mexican restaurant.

[1050] And like the first thing that happened was there was a dude in a bathroom at the brother's Mexican restaurant.

[1051] And then a dude, like, came out of nowhere and, like, machete him.

[1052] And it was, like, a thing.

[1053] There was a lawsuit about that.

[1054] And then the brother, like, lost his restaurant.

[1055] And, like, that was, like, an isolated thing.

[1056] But then Juan Corona started, it basically just comes down to, he would get migrant farm workers.

[1057] And then he would take them to an orchard.

[1058] And he would basically say, have sex with me. He, like, he would pull out a machete and then he would force him to have sex with him.

[1059] and then he would bury them in a shallow grave and they found like 17 dudes but because all of these guys were migrant farm workers most of them were undocumented like most of the good information like the people whose names they know are the couple of white dudes that he did it to he mostly just ended up doing it to Mexican guys but they like found they found a bunch of like butcher receipts and stuff from, like, that would be from his pockets in the shallow graves.

[1060] And he, Juan Corona insists that it was his gay brother who actually did all of the murdering and then framed him and then fled to Mexico.

[1061] And one time when I was like about seven, our dog showed up with what my mom insists was a human femur.

[1062] And my grandpa was like, no, that's a cow's femur.

[1063] but my mom was like, we both know what a town schemer looks like.

[1064] My God.

[1065] And in the background the entire time, my asshole dog Frank is barking.

[1066] Is that your dog?

[1067] Yep.

[1068] Oh, what a dick.

[1069] That's why I recorded my hot, sweaty apartment.

[1070] Isn't that so creepy, like, that you would be, that you're so trapped if you were a migrant farm worker undocumented?

[1071] Clearly, you can't go to the cops.

[1072] And there is a serial killer targeting you, taking people out into all.

[1073] orchards.

[1074] That's so sad.

[1075] It's so crazy.

[1076] And then I think about those poor families back home who were like, I don't know what happened to, you know, my brother, but I'm never going to find out.

[1077] Right.

[1078] That's exactly right.

[1079] It's sad.

[1080] It's very sad.

[1081] Thanks, Guy.

[1082] He's a swell person.

[1083] I like him.

[1084] He's the best.

[1085] And boy, can he dance.

[1086] Really?

[1087] Nice.

[1088] Well, I guess that's it.

[1089] Yeah.

[1090] Thank you for listening.

[1091] Thank you so much.

[1092] Can you guys, if you rate, review and subscribe on iTunes, that helps us a lot, and we appreciate it.

[1093] And gosh, it's nice having you guys listen in this podcast.

[1094] Also, Elvis is sitting right in front of Stephen's face because Stephen gave him a cookie last time.

[1095] I like that you just said, gosh, gosh, it's nice you listen, everybody.

[1096] Gee whiz.

[1097] Gee whiz.

[1098] The gee Willickers, everybody.

[1099] Thank you.

[1100] Thanks.

[1101] And you know what, stay sexy.

[1102] And don't get moored.

[1103] Elvis, you want a cookie?

[1104] A cookie?

[1105] Whoa.

[1106] Bye.