#617 - Brian Regan

[0] The Joe Rogan Experience.

[1] Train by day, Joe Rogan, podcast by night, all day.

[2] Hello, everybody.

[3] Brian Regan's here, ladies and gentlemen.

[4] Longtime friend slash stand -up comedian extraordinaire slash international man of mystery.

[5] That's how I look at you.

[6] Wow.

[7] I like that intro.

[8] When I'm working with people, I'm going to start asking them to go with that intro.

[9] Plus, you're the only comic I know that works outside of Vegas but lives in Vegas.

[10] Yes.

[11] For everybody else, it's the opposite.

[12] Right.

[13] Or they live in Vegas only because they want to work in Vegas, like a carrot top type individual.

[14] Yes, I do life and show business backwards.

[15] I want a long commute.

[16] I want to go to an airport and get on a plane and fly more than a thousand miles away from my home and do my work.

[17] But you work everywhere, though.

[18] I mean, you work in Reno?

[19] Yeah, I'll do Reno.

[20] You'll do Reno.

[21] You just won't do Vegas.

[22] I mean, I might at one point, you know, I mean, like those residences seem kind of intriguing, you know, carrot top.

[23] Rita Rudner, I think she's doing another one, I'm not sure.

[24] Yeah.

[25] The people that, but not yet, you know what I mean?

[26] I still like being on the road.

[27] I, to me, for now, that's what I want to be as a comedian, as a traveling comedian.

[28] Yeah, the residencies are very strange because they're intriguing in some way.

[29] I had a conversation with George Wallace about it.

[30] I ran into him at the Comedy of Magic Club, and he's done with his.

[31] He used to do one.

[32] And the way he described it, it sounded like a lot of fucking work.

[33] Like a lot more work than you would think.

[34] Like, you would think, well, hey, for him, it's great.

[35] He just has to stay there, and he just kind of, like, does his show there.

[36] It's no big deal.

[37] No, they call it forewalling it, I guess.

[38] You know, so, like, you have to fill that place, and you have to fill it all the time.

[39] So you're always doing promotions.

[40] You're always doing this and that.

[41] And, you know, like, I don't know how much of that he has to pay for.

[42] but I believe a lot of it comes out of his pocket.

[43] And so he's constantly trying to fill the place up and constantly trying to put billboards up and keep the place popping.

[44] And he has to do things in order to get people to remember him because he's not out there.

[45] Like when you're on tour, you're out there.

[46] You know, you're in Cincinnati.

[47] You know, Brian Regans in Boston.

[48] Brian Regan's in Maryland.

[49] You know, when you're in Vegas, you're just in Vegas.

[50] Right.

[51] And there's a lot more clutter, you know, when you're in, because there's a lot of comedians doing that and a lot of other shows in Las Vegas.

[52] I didn't realize it was that much work, so I'm changing my mind.

[53] I never want to do a residency.

[54] Yeah, I'm out.

[55] I've thought about like a partial, not a, never a residency.

[56] I don't really want to live there, but a partial sort of a situation where you do like a once a month show there.

[57] I think a once a month show there would be kind of fun.

[58] Yeah?

[59] Yeah.

[60] I've been doing the Mirage pretty recently, pretty regularly, like I did it twice in January, but that's just because I'm there anyway for the UFC.

[61] Right.

[62] Well, George Wallace has a big billboard up, says, best 10 p .m. show in Las Vegas.

[63] Yeah.

[64] And I love the qualification on there.

[65] If I did a residency, I would put a billboard right next to that best 10 .05 show.

[66] Or 1003.

[67] Best 10 .03 show in Las Vegas.

[68] Yeah, that's a weird qualification, right?

[69] Best 10 p .m. show by some silly magazine.

[70] It's always like Vegas Best magazine Like where do I find this fucking Vegas best magazine?

[71] The Las Vegas Review Journal every year Polls everybody in Las Vegas To ask them what they think the best everything is in Las Vegas The best Italian restaurant The best Mexican restaurant And Las Vegas is kind of like a hodgepodge of people Like from all over and they didn't It's not the most cultured place So like the best Mexican restaurant is always like I'm trying to think of I mean, it's not Taco Bell, but it's like...

[72] A bit shaky.

[73] Yeah, you know, it's like a chain.

[74] And the best Italian restaurant is like something you go, no, that's not the best Italian restaurant.

[75] So the Las Vegas Review Journal always has to say, well, these are great choices, but here's some suggestions we make.

[76] Like, they're trying to push the culture a little bit.

[77] Oh, that's good.

[78] Yeah.

[79] They have some pretty decent restaurants at Vegas.

[80] That's one thing that Vegas has, by far, like, that's the most impressive, is the restaurants they have in the casinos.

[81] Like, if you get a steak in Vegas at a business.

[82] big casino, it's going to be a banging steak.

[83] I've never had a bad steak.

[84] It's like a craft steak or a strip steak, you know, the places in MGM and Mandalay Bay or nine at the palms, like, you know, some of the best stakes in the world.

[85] Yeah, I haven't done a lot of those deals.

[86] I mean, I'm pretty much like a home guy.

[87] I mean, I'll go hit those places every now and then if I've got friends in town, but I'm not a guy that really knows Las Vegas inside and out, you know.

[88] It's embarrassing when friends come into town and go, where are we going, Brian?

[89] and I'm like, well, you know, there's a Chili's down the street.

[90] There's a, they got a happy hour there, and then we'll go get a draft somewhere, you know.

[91] Yeah, I'm not that guy at all.

[92] Yeah, when we were at the UFC last month, which is it January?

[93] Yeah, January.

[94] And you almost looked like out of sorts.

[95] And I'm like, this is where you live, man. Yeah, it was, that was my first UFC fight ever.

[96] Hannibal Burris was in town and texted me and I had seen him out on the road six months ago or something like that and said, hey, you want to go to the fight tonight?

[97] And I've never been to a boxing match or a UFC fight.

[98] So I was like, sure, you know, it seemed like something fun to do.

[99] And I started Googling what boxing matches were in law.

[100] I thought it was a boxing match that he invited me to.

[101] Oh, that's hilarious.

[102] So I couldn't find any boxing matches.

[103] I'm like, I don't know what fight he's talking about.

[104] And he said, well, just meet me at the will call window.

[105] It's at the MGM, right?

[106] Yeah.

[107] So I meet him at the will call window.

[108] He gets the tickets.

[109] He goes, let's go inside.

[110] I didn't know until we were walking in when I saw that cage.

[111] I didn't even know what I was walking into.

[112] I was like, oh, man, it's one of these deals.

[113] It's one of these deals.

[114] Yeah, it's funny.

[115] Yeah.

[116] It was fun, though, man. It was really fun.

[117] It was so much different than what, I mean, I've only seen, like, little, I don't follow that.

[118] You know, I've only seen, like, what I've seen, like, what I've seen sports you know right stuff but uh there's much more art to it than i expected and i was thinking it was just going to be a brutal like a brutal match you know just two guys just going at it until blood starts squirting right but it's actually um there's art and and and and there's a there's a science to it you know it's more interesting than i think somebody who somebody who's not a fan wouldn't realize that there's more to it than what they might think yeah well there's definitely a lot of technique to yes but the ultimate goal is the first part the brutal stuff yes but but they don't they don't just go out right at it they have to figure each there's a chess it's chess and fighting yes yeah that's a it's a both of those things are going on they're not just the bell doesn't ring and they don't just start running at each other and start pounding each other in a face they're waiting sometimes it goes like that and sometimes they're waiting and looking at each other and figuring out well what's this guy is this guy going to be on defense you know what I mean that there's more mental stuff than I think people might think I would like to watch it as someone as a completely uninitiated untrained person I would I would like to see what that feels like because I've been watching it so long or kind of like of lost touch with what it must look like on the outside but to see like a guy I would like to sit down with you and watch it you know because I was nowhere near you I was over by the commentator, Bruce.

[119] Right.

[120] Well, I was in comedy, comedian Roe, man. Yeah.

[121] Yeah, I got Tom Rhodes in there.

[122] Tom Rhodes, myself, Hannibal Burris, Russell was there.

[123] Russell was there.

[124] Yeah, I mean, it was kind of cool.

[125] And I appreciate the tickets.

[126] Oh, no problem, brother.

[127] Russell's there all the time.

[128] He has a, he keeps a place in Vegas because he's there occasionally.

[129] And I guess it's one of those tax deals.

[130] Like Vegas has some pretty sweet tax deals.

[131] You know, if you live in Vegas, you pay no state taxes.

[132] right uh correct so like for your income that's that's pretty big yeah when i moved from california to nevada i didn't do it for that reason but uh it was certainly a nice byproduct you know it's weird when you think about because that's like a lot of money you know i think it's 10 % of your income right isn't something something nutty like that what state taxes that i don't know i don't even know it goes from eight to seven depending on where you live eight to say goes down i mean it goes anywhere or we're up to 10 but average it's around eight is state income tax?

[133] State, yeah.

[134] Yeah, okay.

[135] Yeah, so that's a lot of money.

[136] If you're making good money, you know, that's a big percentage.

[137] It's like having a manager.

[138] The reason I know that there are no state taxes is at night.

[139] You look in the sky over at the airport and you see a string of pearls.

[140] There's about 15 little white lights.

[141] They're all airplanes.

[142] And they're all coming in and they're landing one.

[143] And every one of those little white dots is filled with people, and all of their pockets are filled with money, and they're coming to leave it in Las Vegas.

[144] Yeah.

[145] I mean, it's amazing.

[146] Whenever I'm flying home, flights are usually packed.

[147] People want to go to Las Vegas.

[148] So they're bringing, you know, most people are not going to win.

[149] You know, so money just keeps coming into that town.

[150] Yeah, it's ridiculous in that way.

[151] I mean, it's one of the only places we could think of.

[152] where you're guaranteed you're going to have a bunch of people that are going to be risking their money, like, and then spending it.

[153] And then going, I mean, like, it's a weird place when you think about it, that it's based on gambling.

[154] Right.

[155] You know?

[156] And I saw an ad for a slot, you know, some casino was saying we give 97 % of the money back on slots.

[157] And that was like a selling point.

[158] And I think, can you imagine if your bank told you that they would give you 97 % of your money back?

[159] take three percent of your money yeah like that's a good thing that doesn't come in here and we'll give you 97 % of your money how do they how do i say that that's not true because it's just not true i mean there's no way they give they only make 3 % there's no way i i don't know i don't know if they could you know i'm sure they can't lie so there's probably some technical way that that's true but but it's technically true i think it's one of those like you know there's like a house advantage you know like the house is like a 54 % advantage you know like or 54 to you know you're 46.

[160] You know what I mean?

[161] It's like one of those deals.

[162] So that's probably how they get away with saying it.

[163] I don't know.

[164] But, but, you know, even if that, even if it was only 3 % that's still guaranteed money for the casino.

[165] Right.

[166] You're going to lose 3 % of your money every time, which is not, not every person, but I mean overall.

[167] Yeah.

[168] If people bet $100 ,000, they only have to give $97 ,000 of that back.

[169] There was a weird case recently in New Jersey where a bunch of people was ruled they had to give their money back because they won a lot of money playing this game and the dealer had forgot to shuffle because the cards had come pre -shuffled and so somewhere along the line these players realized that the dealer had forgot to shuffle and so they just jumped their bets up higher and higher and higher every time and then they wound up winning like over a million dollars wow and then it was revealed that the dealers had made a mistake in some way shape or form and that the players, by realizing that the dealers had made this mistake, where somehow or another, it was invalid that they won, which is fucking hilarious.

[170] Yeah, I don't get how some of that stuff is fair.

[171] Like the counting cards thing.

[172] I don't understand why you're not allowed to do things in your head.

[173] You're not allowed to think.

[174] You know what I mean?

[175] I mean, first of all, how do you know what I'm doing in my head?

[176] Exactly.

[177] You know, just based on my betting.

[178] And even if you're correct in what I'm doing in my head, why can't I do that in my head?

[179] Yeah.

[180] That blows my mind that you're not allowed to.

[181] They can just come up to you and go, no, no, we don't want you in here because you're winning and you're smart.

[182] Yeah, you're smart.

[183] You're thinking.

[184] Ben Affleck did that, right?

[185] Did it?

[186] I think he got trouble.

[187] kicked out of a place for counting cards.

[188] Well, Dana White, the president of the UFC, gets kicked out all the time.

[189] He doesn't even count cards.

[190] He just wins.

[191] He just bets a lot of money.

[192] If he wins too much, they kick him out.

[193] They kick you out if you win.

[194] Like, wait a minute.

[195] If I lose, you're cool with that.

[196] That's why there's no state income tax.

[197] But that's also why those places are fucking gigantic.

[198] You know, when you walk into, you know, whatever, the Venetian, you know, name a casino, and you see how opulent it is and how beautiful all the decor.

[199] That's a lot of money, man. There's spent a lot of money in those fountains that you're passing.

[200] They're shooting water 100 feet into the sky, a beautiful show.

[201] Of wealth.

[202] I like watching occasionally.

[203] They'll have one of these, you know, TV shows where they show how people cheat at the casinos.

[204] And one, I thought, was pretty intriguing.

[205] The dealer was, it was like at a blackjack table or something.

[206] The dealer was in on it with his friend who showed up.

[207] And his friend...

[208] His friend was a cheater.

[209] They were both cheaters.

[210] So his friend put a cup of black coffee down on the green felt, right?

[211] So the dealer who's got a black chip or two in his hand in the palm of his hand puts his hand on the top of the cup like this and drops the black chips into the coffee cup and says you can't put that drink here and hands it back to the guy.

[212] And the guy goes, oh, okay, and then takes his coffee cup back.

[213] Bet's $5, loses, wins, whatever, and then walks away.

[214] That's real cheating, though.

[215] That seems to be like cheating.

[216] No, of course.

[217] Yeah, that's outright cheating.

[218] Yeah, that's outright cheating.

[219] The counting thing being cheating is fucking ridiculous.

[220] It's like, what is the game?

[221] The game is, there's 50, what is it, 52 cards?

[222] Yes.

[223] 52 cards.

[224] Okay, you're watching the cards that get dealt, they get all shuffled up, and you just do like a mathematical calculation of probability in your head.

[225] That seems to me to be like a thing that you should do all the time in life.

[226] Of course.

[227] Yeah, what are the odds?

[228] If I run this red light, what are the odds I get hit by a car?

[229] Well, it's three in the morning.

[230] There's not as many people drive.

[231] It's probably...

[232] It's absurd.

[233] Yeah.

[234] It's like going up to a golfer who just stitched a shot from the fareway and said, hey, you knew that was 148 yards.

[235] You thought about that.

[236] Yeah.

[237] You figured out that that was 148 yards away.

[238] You're not allowed to do that.

[239] You just have to guess.

[240] You hit it as hard as you should for 148 yards, and that's bullshit.

[241] Yeah, yeah.

[242] You're not allowed to be knowing that stuff.

[243] I just, I mean, I've never been into gambling.

[244] I like gambling on sports.

[245] Like, I like gambling on sports.

[246] fights particularly.

[247] That's the only sport I really gamble on.

[248] I don't really know.

[249] If I gamble on a baseball game, it would just be like, who should I bet on?

[250] You know, Detroit?

[251] Okay, go.

[252] But it makes it exciting, you know?

[253] I really think it should be legal everywhere.

[254] I really do.

[255] I think gambling should be legal everywhere.

[256] But I think you should be able to count cards.

[257] I mean, I think if you're, if you're smart, you should be able to count cards.

[258] And if you can count cards, you're going to win.

[259] And that's the fatal flaw in the casino system.

[260] You're going to win consistently.

[261] Well, I think what little I know about it, I don't know how to count cards, but what little I know about it, you have to be perfect.

[262] You have to, you can't make a mistake, you have to count every card, you've got to know exactly what's going on, and then you might end up with like a 1 % or something advantage, or 1 .5 % or something like that.

[263] You have to be absolutely perfect.

[264] I would think, I'm guessing, I don't know the fact on that, but because it's already a pretty even game, Blackjack.

[265] Yeah, it's pretty even.

[266] As far as all those games go, they say that the games that like people really like are like craps and blackjack because craps is just like fucking chaos you know you're just rolling those dice and who the fuck you got to kind of know how to bet and when to bet and when you're feeling hot and when it's when it's going your favor I was I've only played craps a couple times one one time was there were a bunch of comedians in Las Vegas including Drew Hastings okay Drew Hastings was he brought us over the craps table and he was going to show me how to play crabs and I'm standing next to him, and I bet on something that what little I knew, I could tell that it lost, you know.

[267] You can tell.

[268] Sort of, right?

[269] I can tell.

[270] But the guy didn't do the stick thing to pull it, like he left it there.

[271] And I was, like, confused.

[272] So, like, a moron, I yelled to the dealer, you know, to explain to him that he should be taking my money.

[273] Right.

[274] And I said, excuse me, excuse me. A second, and then I feel this pressure on my foot, Drew Hastings is stepping on the top of my foot, like, really hard, and he's trying to tell me to shut up.

[275] What is?

[276] He knows what I'm doing, so he's, like, stepping on my foot, like, would you shut up?

[277] What was wrong with what you were doing?

[278] I was going to, he, Drew felt they made a mistake.

[279] I should take the money back, even though, even though I had lost it or just leave it out there and bet on that same thing the next time.

[280] It's their error.

[281] Oh, so it was an error.

[282] Yeah, they were supposed to take my money.

[283] And I was trying to explain that to them.

[284] That I lost that, fair and square, take it away.

[285] Oh, that's funny.

[286] I thought you just didn't understand what was going on.

[287] Because craps is one of those weird games where I've sat and I've watched people play craps for like 10 minutes, you know, just as an observer.

[288] And I had no idea what the fuck was going on.

[289] Yeah.

[290] The hard, soft, cum.

[291] I still don't know.

[292] You can come?

[293] Like, what is it?

[294] Like, there's a come, right?

[295] Like, that's like part of the...

[296] That's a bet.

[297] I don't even know, I don't know what any of it means.

[298] I know sevens are good.

[299] 11s is good, right?

[300] Seven and 11, but then they become bad.

[301] If you get a seven on the first thing, it's good, but then you roll an eight on the first thing.

[302] Now you want to get an eight before a seven.

[303] That's all I know.

[304] How do they assume that people know how to play that fucking game?

[305] How do they get new kids involved?

[306] You know, like there's certain games that used to be super popular with the old folks, dominoes and shit like that.

[307] How do you get people involved in craps?

[308] Maybe that's why they have these big giant fountains is because I got a bunch of people like me making sure that they take my losses away.

[309] I don't think that's how.

[310] But I think that there's some weirdness to that game that just, like, it seems way too complicated.

[311] Didn't Richard Jenna used to have a bit about craps?

[312] I think he did about how no one knows, like everybody thinks they're an expert at certain games.

[313] What he likes about craps is no one knows what the hell's going on.

[314] Everyone just concedes that no one knows.

[315] what the hell is going on?

[316] Richard Jenny has an album that just came out.

[317] Obviously, he...

[318] Really?

[319] Yeah, he, you know, he...

[320] I think it just came out.

[321] When did he...

[322] He died about five or six years ago, right?

[323] Yeah, something like that.

[324] So I don't know if somebody had some soundtracks of some stuff that he had recorded, but I downloaded it and listened to it.

[325] It's really good, man. He was great.

[326] Yeah.

[327] I took that one hard.

[328] That one bummed me out a lot.

[329] Yeah, I didn't know him that well.

[330] I knew him and me like, hey, man, what's up?

[331] How you doing?

[332] You know, blah, blah, blah.

[333] Last, uh, like a month before he died like that month somewhere in there I was with him on a plane just randomly and he just happened to be sitting right in front of me we chatted a little bit yeah he was always you know pleasant but I know he was troubled that's just that one hit me hard because when I was a kid he was a big influence he was one of my favorites when I was first starting out he was on tonight show back then I believe it was Johnny Carson was Johnny Carson tonight show and you know I used to watch him on TV on all those evening of the improv type show or whatever it was or HBO and and then I got to see him a couple times live and he was really good yeah really really such a good joke writer and um when he died and it's just it just bum me out it just it bum me it bums me out when people don't feel appreciated and you think they're awesome you know and he's he was one of those guys just he always wanted to be like Jim Carrey he always wanted to be like some Jerry Seinfeld type guy that had his own show and instead he was you know He was a big -time headliner on the road, selling out theaters and clubs, doing a lot of the stuff that you're doing, you know, essentially.

[334] But for whatever reason, he wasn't appreciated or he didn't feel that he was appreciated.

[335] I don't know, you know.

[336] But it was depression that led to what he did, and it's hard to know whether it was a career -related depression or just something so much deeper that people who don't have depression can't even relate to.

[337] Yeah, that's a good point because when, you know, you see someone that's getting depressed about their career?

[338] Are they really depressed about their career?

[339] Are they really depressed?

[340] I mean, his career is successful as hell.

[341] It's like, why would he be depressed about all that success?

[342] I mean, look at Robin Williams.

[343] I mean, you could not have a more successful career than Robin Williams, and he kills himself because of depression.

[344] So clearly, it's not necessarily career -related.

[345] It's a much deeper thing that people have difficulty understanding.

[346] I don't understand it.

[347] Yeah, he was another one that was like, wow, how is that possible?

[348] How is it possible that Robin Williams wanted to kill himself like I just I can't imagine you remember good morning Vietnam and Popeye like this guy was on top of the fucking world did you ever meet him yeah I meant it it was weird how I met him I didn't know I was meeting him until like five minutes into our conversation he was in the he came to the improv to see me and he was in line with everybody else to take pictures he had a baseball hat on it a beard and glasses and he came up to me and he was talking to me about a very particular bit that I did about how much he loved it and this and that and And a couple minutes into talking, I'm like, holy shit, this is a couple of Williams.

[349] Wow.

[350] You didn't even know that.

[351] I had no idea.

[352] I just thought I was talking some nice guy.

[353] Wow.

[354] Wow.

[355] You know, we were talking and, you know, but he was like real specific.

[356] I was like, wow, this guy's a real comedy fan.

[357] He's like, he's like really into like the specific aspects of the joke.

[358] Oh, that's how he knows comedy.

[359] He's like, I love how you like, he goes, you really put yourself out there with that bit.

[360] It was like, so, the way you did it was so this and that.

[361] And I go, oh, thanks, man. I'm glad you appreciate it.

[362] Oh.

[363] Oh, shit.

[364] Wow.

[365] It was like, I met him, I don't, I was nobody.

[366] It wasn't like he was meeting me, but I just met him at the improv in New York when there were a number of comedians around.

[367] And I met him at the outdoor comedy day in San Francisco, you know, when there's like 20 comedians on the show and he was one of them.

[368] Outdoor comedy day?

[369] It's, I don't know what it's called, but it's like a big comedy festival in one of the parks in San Francisco, outdoor comedy or something.

[370] But he was very, like, sweet.

[371] and low -key and unassuming, like so different from what you know of him on stage.

[372] You know, like, he was almost like reverential to other comedians, it seemed.

[373] Yeah, he was, that's how I felt when I met him too.

[374] And he's a guy that had this horrible reputation as being a joke thief and, you know, and I think in his case, you know, to talking to people that were victims of what, you know, of him doing that.

[375] In his case, that guy just had this deep desire to be loved and deep desire to please and deep desire to kill and like some comedians they just get kind of addicted to that that the killing and they are just trying to figure out what are the buttons I have to press to get this audience to live right right right as opposed to say a guy like prior who what he was trying to do was express himself in this way that you would think was funny are you saying Robin Williams or prior now prior okay the prior was trying to express himself He was trying to get whatever it was in his head, whatever thoughts that he had, whatever feelings that he had.

[376] He was trying to get you to understand them so you would see what was so funny about this crazy tragedy or ridiculousness of his life.

[377] It was like a completely different need.

[378] You know, like both guys, every comic wants to be loved.

[379] Every comic wants to be appreciated for what they're doing.

[380] But I think with Robin, it was, I don't think, like, when you hear him talk, I don't think he had the same sort of attachment to what he was talking about.

[381] right right right prior did and so in that sense it was easier for him to just incorporate other people's ideas just trying to push those buttons trying to push the buttons you know and that that was his style it's just like trying to get you to and I used to feel bad for Robin Williams whenever he was doing little interviews whether it was on the local level you know or promoing a movie I think he felt like he had to be funny in every moment And I used to feel for him thinking he's created this monster that when he's doing little local, not that that's, you know, a bad thing to do local interviews, but whatever he's, whenever he was being interviewed, I felt like he had to have his foot on the gas 100%.

[382] And it's like, I kind of wish he felt he could just be real and calm down and just answer him without having to go, you know what I mean?

[383] Um, so I, I don't know that just, and that's why I like the, the way things are progressing.

[384] I love this podcast concept.

[385] I love the fact, these kinds of atmospheres are allowing people to relax.

[386] You know, you can be funny within not having to be funny, you know, and, um, I think up until this transition started happening, there was a lot of pressure on comedians, you know, doing morning radio and stuff like that.

[387] Just, all right, light's on, be funny.

[388] You know what I mean?

[389] Yeah.

[390] Well, it's also when you do morning radio and no one knows you.

[391] Yeah.

[392] And you're going into these local stations.

[393] Like, how many times have you done a station when they go, okay, what bits you want us to set up?

[394] You know, like, say, Brian, I hear you just got back from the zoo.

[395] Why don't you tell us about your trip to the zoo?

[396] Right.

[397] It was so forced.

[398] Yeah.

[399] It's a fucking, man, I've been on, I was on one just a couple of years ago.

[400] It wasn't that long ago where this fucking guy, man, this pretty.

[401] Ducer guy, came back, and I would imagine what it would be like to be a young comic to deal with this guy.

[402] So the guy comes back with a clipboard.

[403] He said, all right, the guys want to know what bits you want to set up, what topics you want to discuss.

[404] I go, dude, I'm not doing bits.

[405] He goes, he looked at me like, what are you playing on doing on the radio?

[406] I go, we're going to, I guess we're going to talk.

[407] Is that okay?

[408] Have a conversation?

[409] You know, like, these microphones?

[410] And he just rolls his eyes and walks out of the room, like, in disgust.

[411] You're like, look at you.

[412] Look at you.

[413] You're silly bitch.

[414] You know, you're living in 1991.

[415] You're like, you have no idea what radio is these days.

[416] And sometimes I did a radio interview a long time ago.

[417] And I was trying to play the game.

[418] And it's like I set the guy up on a bit.

[419] And it was just this old bit I used to do saying I went through to Burger King Drive Through.

[420] I felt like an idiot.

[421] I ordered a cheeseburger.

[422] They said, drive around.

[423] So I drove around for about a half an hour.

[424] All right.

[425] That's the joke.

[426] All right, so I'm in the radio station.

[427] The guy goes, I understand.

[428] You like to go fast food places, you know?

[429] It was like a southern guy.

[430] So I said, yeah.

[431] I said, I went to Burger King the other day.

[432] I ordered a cheeseburger.

[433] And the guy said, drive around.

[434] And he went, ha, ha, we'll be back after this.

[435] And I'm like, wow.

[436] That's going to move a lot of tickets.

[437] There's a lot of good guys.

[438] That's going to sell a lot of tickets out there.

[439] There's a lot of good guys out there doing radio.

[440] There's a lot of good guys that are just, they're cool, they're happy to have you in there.

[441] They're happy to talk to.

[442] But there's also a lot of shitheads that wish they were comedians.

[443] And there's a lot of shitheads that like they kind of like they either wanted to be comedians.

[444] They didn't have the balls to do it or they're judging comedians.

[445] Like whatever it is, but you'll see them like trying to fuck with you while you're on the air.

[446] There's also some people that think that there's only one way to get attention is through conflict.

[447] You get those guys, too.

[448] I've been on those morning shows, and it's fucking, God, it's just like...

[449] But that's just what happens when you're out there on the road, when you're, you know, you're doing these local shows trying to pump up your performances.

[450] And everybody has different skill sets, you know.

[451] That was never my skill set.

[452] You know, I'm not a go -to -to -to -to -kind of guy.

[453] And if I get into an atmosphere where I feel it's adversarial or they're trying to, I don't know, push buttons or see if I can, you know, come back at, like, little lighthearted insults or whatever, I just, I kind of shut down, you know?

[454] I mean, I just like to be a, you know, fairly decent guy, nice guy.

[455] I want to do my comedy, you know what I mean?

[456] I don't want to hurt anybody, and I don't want to be into those awkward situations.

[457] Well, some people live off that.

[458] Like, that's their whole thing.

[459] Their whole thing is conflict, constant conflict.

[460] They'll create artificial drama, like, hey, we're going to get into one of the road.

[461] I had this one guy, like, we're going to have a fake fight about, oh, this guy.

[462] It was about Carlos Monsere.

[463] We're going to have a fake to fake fight.

[464] I'm going to pretend that I'm taking his hide.

[465] And I'm like, okay, well, let's see how this works.

[466] Go ahead.

[467] We're going to do a play.

[468] Yeah, exactly.

[469] Like, we're doing an improvised play.

[470] It's just like, God.

[471] It's just that that whole genre was so limited.

[472] Like, the genre of radio itself is so dead.

[473] Like, when you have instant access to podcast on your car, like, right from the car stereo, like, right from the fact, what you're starting to see now with, like, Stitcher, and you're starting to see these integrated apps and I know I'm pretty aware that there's quite a few other companies that are interested in getting into it and they're starting to prepare to integrate themselves with radios and a lot of cars come with Wi -Fi in the car like cellular white like I've rented a Cadillac one of those escalades loved it big fucking giant American monster really comfortable and handles really well too I was really impressed the new one is pretty badass But one of the things that was crazy was the guy was explaining to me that it has built -in cellular connection for Wi -Fi.

[474] So you could set up a Wi -Fi hotspot in your car.

[475] You could work from your backseat with your car acting as a Wi -Fi spot.

[476] So, like, if your kids are in the backseat, you know, if it has a rear entertainment system or if they have an iPad, they want to download apps or a movie or whatever, you can download it from your fucking car as you're driving.

[477] I don't I don't I don't all this technology stuff I'm starting to just get further and further away from understanding what's going on you know like flip phone no no I I've got an iPhone I've got an iPhone I've got an iPhone but David Tel and Ari Shafir both have flip phone no way wow Ari just reasoning went back to a flip phone I don't think Dave ever left well the car I just got you know the guy was explaining you know you just but the phone becomes your radio through Bluetooth I don't know I don't even know what that means So easy That's so easy So I do that So I get in my car And I'm driving off the You know The lot And then my My My radio starts ringing You know Like I don't know It was my phone It was my phone Through the The Bluetooth Wait a minute How long ago was this?

[478] Yesterday This is yesterday?

[479] No no But a few months ago A few months ago you didn't know?

[480] I don't know what was going on.

[481] You're fucking car can ring?

[482] No. Do you're not that old man?

[483] This is crazy.

[484] No, I figured out.

[485] My mom knows that.

[486] But I didn't know how to answer it.

[487] I didn't know how to, you know what I'm like?

[488] Just start yelling.

[489] That's what I did.

[490] I just opened a window.

[491] Whoever is trying to communicate with me. I'll meet you at the next red light.

[492] What did you do?

[493] I just kept, I was looking at the steering wheel, and I saw a little thing that said that had a button with a phone like a phone icon.

[494] So I just press that button and I'm like saying hello, it felt weird.

[495] I'm like saying hello out loud in a car by myself.

[496] And then I hear somebody talking to me and I'm like, God, this is strange, you know?

[497] So I had a conversation.

[498] I had a conversation out loud to somebody that wasn't there.

[499] Yeah, those Bluetooth microphones are getting pretty goddamn good now.

[500] Some cars like really high -in cars.

[501] It almost sounds like talking to someone just on a regular handset.

[502] But I had an old one, man. It sounded like I was in a middle of, like, Madison Square Garden, and my phone was, like, 50 feet away, and I was screaming at it.

[503] That's what it sounded like.

[504] I would be horrible.

[505] Like, people, I'm going to record you so you can hear how bad you sound to me. Is it normal to you now?

[506] Like, do you use it every day, or do you still are scared of it when it rings?

[507] I've still only had, like, two or three phone calls that way through the car, because, you know, you're supposed to activate.

[508] I don't turn on the Bluetooth part on my phone.

[509] Sometimes I think of it, and sometimes I don't.

[510] So usually I don't even have that on.

[511] But every once I'll go, oh, I'll turn that Bluetooth thing on in case I get a phone call.

[512] And then I'll hope for a phone call because it's like, now I'm ready.

[513] I know.

[514] Well, you have to pair it to your car.

[515] I picture you driving like a 1978 Seville, one of those big long ones, nice and slow, waving everybody.

[516] No, it's one of the modern SUV deals.

[517] You drive a regular car?

[518] Yeah, yeah, okay.

[519] Anti -lock brakes, the whole deal, navigation system, use that?

[520] I don't know.

[521] You use maps?

[522] MapQuest, print it out stuff?

[523] He doesn't print that.

[524] No, he gets one of those goddamn Thomas guides.

[525] That's why I need red lights.

[526] That's where you stop and go, where is such and such, you know?

[527] Remember those Thomas guys where you got the fucking G2?

[528] You sank my battleship.

[529] You had to fucking go down.

[530] People would tell you on the Thomas guy, like where the address was.

[531] Do you remember trip ticks where you get a trip away and they'd like print out your whole entire trip to like if you're going somewhere and you like turn the page like I got five more pages left until I get there I remember the first time I rented a I rented a car that had that GPS thing when it was first coming out and it showed like on a map while you were driving it had like a little triangle which represented your car right and then it's showing a map as you're going and I had never seen that this was what 15 years ago when those first came out and I was like wow that's amazing and I wanted to see what would happen if I drove in circles So I got off the highway and went into like a holiday -end parking lot and just started driving in circles because I wanted to see if the triangle went in circles or if the whole map shifted, you know.

[532] And I forget what the answer was, but it's either or.

[533] I mean, depending on how high -in the navigation system is.

[534] You can actually change it.

[535] You can change it so it follows the direction you're traveling or where the map is always facing north.

[536] So if you're taking a left, your arrow is going left, but the map stays.

[537] straight or you could take you could do it so that no matter where you're going the arrow is going straight and then the world adjusts around you which i like i like the world to adjust to me i just i remember i'm going that way it's about me and my travel and this world needs to factor in where my arrow is going this planet needs to suck it yeah there's some of them are really good man Like, the Cadillac one that I just rented was amazing because the screen was a laptop.

[538] It's huge.

[539] The Cadillac navigation screen and the screen that's on the, like, the dashboard to screen, like, it's not a dashboard anymore.

[540] Like, it's an LCD screen.

[541] So, like, all the different shit, like your tack and your speedometer, it's not real.

[542] They're virtual.

[543] So it's all a flat screen, and you're looking at, like, a digital image of a speedometer that shows you.

[544] Like, it looks like a circular analog speedometer.

[545] Right.

[546] And, you know, it goes like, you could see the dial moving, but it's not.

[547] But it's all digital.

[548] Yeah, a lot of cars are doing that now.

[549] It's pretty hard to fuck with, like, Ways, though.

[550] You know, I don't know if you use Ways.

[551] Oh, yeah, yeah, Ways is great.

[552] I mean, that's saved me so many, like, oh, shit, there's a cop ahead.

[553] Well, Tony and I rented, when we were up in Portland, we rented this Cadillac.

[554] And talking to the Cadillac, I would start screaming at it.

[555] You fuck a bitch, you know what I'm saying?

[556] Like, you know, there's a button.

[557] Like, take me to Helium Comedy Club.

[558] It didn't know what the fuck to do.

[559] But I go check this out Navigate to Helium Comedy Club I just press Siri and Siri goes Navigating to Helium Comedy Club Bitch you're the best Wow And I throw my phone down And I just listen to the phone Like fuck this navigation system in the car They're just not as good I want to try Apple Play Which is the where it pretty much Just takes your Apple screen On the GPS So you have all the Like Spotify or whatever you have on your phone What is that?

[560] It's called Apple Play It's in some cars already You could also do like I'm thinking about getting my I have like an old Ford Edge And they'd take out the screen and they put in, like, an iPad in it.

[561] So then it's just an iPad.

[562] Ooh, who's doing that?

[563] A lot of car places are doing that nowadays.

[564] Like, like, those custom car places.

[565] Well, that's way better.

[566] Yeah.

[567] But what about the, you mean separate from where the speedometer and all that stuff and the gas gauge?

[568] The middle part.

[569] The middle part where the navigation is.

[570] Yeah, like mine is that got 2008.

[571] And the thing in there is just so outdated and stuff.

[572] So it's pointless to even happen.

[573] So they just take that out, putting an iPad in there with like 3G or, are 4T, LTE, or whatever.

[574] And so you have internet, you can make hot spots.

[575] You also have an iPad in there.

[576] That's way better.

[577] Way better.

[578] The problem is a lot of those things, they have a lot of shit integrated into those screens.

[579] Like, they have, like, your, your heat.

[580] No, like your, you know, like the temperature, the car and air conditioning and all that jazz.

[581] Like all of it is integrated into the screen, use of the phone, Bluetooth, this, that, the other thing.

[582] They have these adapters now for, like, cars.

[583] So, like, mine has, like, my health reports are built into my stereo, so we're like...

[584] Health reports.

[585] It's like you're dead, bitch.

[586] Yeah.

[587] No. You're not good.

[588] You look green.

[589] Right.

[590] Where it tells you, you need, like...

[591] Because you're driving.

[592] I don't know that I want a health report constantly.

[593] You look like shit, son.

[594] You got to chase.

[595] Turn left.

[596] How much?

[597] Did you sleep a minute last night?

[598] Is this real?

[599] How much cocaine?

[600] That's crazy.

[601] Yeah, it takes your blood from the steering wheel.

[602] Yeah.

[603] It gives you a little pinprick.

[604] That's coming, right?

[605] Like, like, when you're...

[606] Grabbing on the steering wheel, it should have your heart rate already, like, displayed or your, all the files.

[607] Well, they're going to be able to give you, they're going to be able to give you a scan with an app, you know, like, for sure.

[608] There's going to be able to have an app where you could scan someone to find out what's wrong with them.

[609] I mean, it's not going to happen tomorrow, but it'll probably happen within a decade.

[610] There'll probably be something you have to wear, you know, like people wear those Fitbits, those wrist things, and the wrist things tell you, like, how much you slept.

[611] Like, they'll tell you your sleep cycle.

[612] Like, people are really into those, man, finding out how deep.

[613] They slept and how much REM sleep you got.

[614] Yeah, and those things are pretty slick because they show up on your, you know, your computer.

[615] You can, like, read the readouts.

[616] Like, this week I've been getting much more sleep and my heart rate is lower and this is then.

[617] My fitness level, my body fat, all that jazz.

[618] You can add all that stuff in.

[619] And, you know, you look at like your life as like you can look at your body, like the health of your body.

[620] Like you would look at the, you know, analysis of a car.

[621] Like when they plug a car into a computer now, if you go.

[622] To get a tune -up, a lot of these newer cars, everything is done by computer.

[623] So they're doing everything.

[624] They're checking your smog.

[625] They're checking the way the engine works.

[626] All that shit is just being analyzed by a computer.

[627] You talked about the Cadillac Escalade.

[628] I had one of those as my previous car.

[629] And somehow, on my email, I would be sent a monthly status report of my car.

[630] Like if a tire was low.

[631] on pressure or something like that.

[632] It would come in an email.

[633] How about tell me now?

[634] I thought that was amazing, though.

[635] That is pretty cool.

[636] You know, it seems like technology, things get easier to use, like more user -friendly, and then they go to another level where they get more challenging again.

[637] You know, like when computers first came out, you couldn't work a computer unless you took a computer class and figured out how to work those deals.

[638] And then they became user -friendly, where they're very, very, very.

[639] visual and you just click, click, click, click, click.

[640] But talk about televisions.

[641] Televisions have gotten so complicated.

[642] I don't even know how to work my TV.

[643] Yeah, the inputs and shit.

[644] Every single thing, you know, it's like why is there like nine different configurations of the screen?

[645] Do you want letterbox?

[646] Do you want widescreen?

[647] You want normal screen?

[648] You want five to two ratio, three to seven ratio.

[649] I don't even know.

[650] Why isn't there just one thing.

[651] Why don't you just plug the TV in and it comes on?

[652] You know why?

[653] Because there's a lot of people that are real tech geeks.

[654] They love that shit.

[655] Like when they do that CES show in Vegas have you ever gone to that?

[656] No. You need to go to that.

[657] You want to blow your fucking brains out?

[658] I don't need to go to that.

[659] I need to not go to that.

[660] Well, it's fascinating.

[661] It's fascinating to see all the gadgets that they're working on.

[662] Like one of the podcast sponsors, what is that, Jamie, pull that up, if you can.

[663] That one thing that won the CES Best Show, Smart Things.

[664] It's one of the sponsors for this podcast, and it allows you to do everything from your phone.

[665] Turn your lights on, change your heat.

[666] It's fucking crazy.

[667] You do it from your phone.

[668] Well, you're not even there.

[669] I have something like that.

[670] That's it, smartthings .com.

[671] This is one CES best new, whatever the fuck it is, best app, just some badass award.

[672] Yeah, it's pretty slick.

[673] Yeah, we're in the future right here.

[674] This podcast is in the future.

[675] Like, if I asked you to put something up here, you just put it up.

[676] Yeah, dude, we're in HD, too.

[677] Can you put a...

[678] See that, TriCaster?

[679] That thing crashes every 10 shows.

[680] It's powerful.

[681] It really does crash every 10 shows.

[682] Is this something that, like, plugs into, like, an outlet that has, like, a Wi -Fi connection to it, so it turns on and off.

[683] Yep, that's great.

[684] Does everything.

[685] I'm setting up my whole house with this.

[686] They sent it to me. I'm setting my whole house up with this.

[687] So it all works from an app.

[688] It's fucking sweet.

[689] And then someone can hack it in the middle of the night.

[690] Your house turns into a fucking disco.

[691] They strobe you.

[692] And they start playing like Taylor Swift, really.

[693] Shake it up.

[694] And you can't stop it.

[695] Shake it up.

[696] It is pretty crazy.

[697] Like drop cam, there's those little cameras.

[698] I put one in my bed so I can record myself sleeping to see how many times I wake up because it's got motion control so it will show when you move or when you make a noise.

[699] And it's crazy how many times I will wake up and say something and then go back to bed.

[700] Okay.

[701] That's your body fighting off death.

[702] Wait a second.

[703] There's 24 hours in a day.

[704] Eight of them you're sleeping, and another eight you're watching you sleeping.

[705] So that leaves eight to actually try to accomplish something.

[706] No, he's not trying to accomplish shit.

[707] You don't know, Brian.

[708] He's just having fun.

[709] But this sounds like one of those poltergeist movies.

[710] Like you would see the fucking ghost hovering over you in the middle of the night, fucking your face while you're sleeping.

[711] What is that?

[712] Rewind it.

[713] Like one of those paranormal.

[714] It is crazy because, like, I talk a lot in my sleep, I guess, and when you do talk, it's like somebody else is talking, but using your mouth and voice, and you have no recollection.

[715] Like, you weren't doing it.

[716] Somebody else is controlling your body is what it seems like.

[717] What are they saying to you?

[718] I don't know.

[719] Like, I'll wake up and just be like, why do I hate my stuff?

[720] What's for it?

[721] And I'm just like, then I go back there.

[722] But, yeah, it's weird.

[723] It's creepy seeing herself, not awake and talking.

[724] This whole sleeping is very fucking strange.

[725] Well, Kelly Starr, it was one of the guys who's been on the podcast before.

[726] He's a fitness expert.

[727] He's sending me this thing.

[728] You're supposed to, it's like a pad that you put under your bed that, or you put under your sheets.

[729] And it chills you down to like, it chills your body.

[730] Like, it's very cold.

[731] Like, you're sleeping in it.

[732] And I think it gets down to like 58, between 58 and 62 degrees.

[733] You plug it in?

[734] Yeah.

[735] And you sleep, like, essentially air -conditioned.

[736] And I'm like, I'm looking.

[737] I'm like, why the fuck would you do that?

[738] Like, I want to be warm.

[739] What's the purpose?

[740] Apparently, your body gets the deepest sleep.

[741] If you're in a chilly environment.

[742] Like, Joey Diaz has always said that.

[743] Joey Diaz sleeps.

[744] Like, you go into his room.

[745] I've gone into his room before, like, when we're on the road together.

[746] And I'm like, what is this fucking penguins waddling out of here?

[747] It's ridiculous.

[748] Like, he takes his AC and he cranks it to the bottom.

[749] He will take it.

[750] Like, if you go to a hotel and it gives you, like, 30 degrees or whatever, he will literally tried to get his hotel down to 30 degrees.

[751] He's fucking crazy.

[752] I've always thought because he's, you know, he's very overweight.

[753] And I always say, like, it was probably like, if you're walking around everywhere, wearing, like, 10 jackets, like, you would want everything to be colder in your room.

[754] So that's what he's doing.

[755] He just, he's covered in, you know, extra fat.

[756] I think it's bizarre that the human body needs this weird recharge mode, this sleeping thing, you know, for like a, a thing.

[757] third of the time you're alive, you've got to be in some bed, just regrouping.

[758] Yeah.

[759] And, you know, I wonder if medical people at some point would ever be able to eliminate that, you know?

[760] They've worked on that.

[761] They're very close.

[762] There's actually some various work that's been done on creating some sort of a pill that makes it like where your body completely resets and you don't need it anymore.

[763] There's a bunch of different options that the people have worked on.

[764] But I don't think they totally understand what's.

[765] going on during sleep.

[766] Yeah.

[767] I think people that don't sleep, like they've done some tests on people where they've forced them to not sleep for like three or four days in a row.

[768] You become psychotic.

[769] You start seeing shit.

[770] You hallucinate.

[771] You become completely out of it.

[772] But that's what you're doing when you're sleeping.

[773] You're dreaming.

[774] You're seeing things that aren't really there.

[775] So it's either going to take place while you're sleeping or if you don't sleep while you're awake.

[776] I wonder if it's the same effect.

[777] I wonder if they measure your chemicals, the chemicals in your brain.

[778] I wonder if it's the same thing that's going on when they do those sleep deprivation studies.

[779] Because people just, they get like close to heart attacks.

[780] They're like ready to die.

[781] Like you will die if you don't get enough sleep.

[782] Yeah.

[783] I just wonder what the, I'm sure there are dream experts who work on this.

[784] But I'm fascinated with what's going on when someone's dreaming?

[785] What is the purpose of the dream and what is it a, you know, what is it helping you with when you're awake, you know, if you have a dream that has anxiety in it, or if you have a dream where you're being chased or, you know, any of these typical dreams that people have, what, I just wonder, what is that, what is the purpose of that?

[786] Your brain and your body is doing that for a reason.

[787] Well, I have work -related dreams sometimes.

[788] I do, too.

[789] Those work -related dreams are almost always related to actual concerns that I have in real life.

[790] Like, I'll have work -related dreams that I'll, like, forget my material, and it might be, because I haven't been working.

[791] Like, I took a week off or something like that.

[792] And although I know, like, externally, I know, like, or I shouldn't say externally, like, I know consciously that, like, if I'm going to do a show, like, say, on Friday, and I haven't worked for a week or so, I'll do a few tune -up shows.

[793] I'll do a show on Wednesday or show on Thursday.

[794] I'll go over my material, listen to recordings.

[795] But my brain doesn't trust that I'm actually going to do that.

[796] So if I haven't worked for a week, my brain will like, dude, you don't even remember your new shit.

[797] You're on stage.

[798] A bunch of people here to see you.

[799] You don't even remember this new shit you're working on.

[800] You know, in my brain, I'm like, I don't remember my new shit.

[801] Stop.

[802] It's, I got a written down.

[803] I got recordings.

[804] But your brain doesn't want to hear that.

[805] Your brain's like, listen, fucker, you better stay on the ball constantly.

[806] Any little weird thing that you might have in the back of your head that could possibly go wrong, that'll be brought to the forefront while you're sleeping for some reason.

[807] I have a lot of dreams about shows, but they're always pre -show.

[808] never me on stage.

[809] It's always assessing, assessing the situation.

[810] It's always looking at the crowd, looking at how the tables are set up, looking at the lighting, and it's all pre, I don't know why.

[811] I don't know why those are the dreams.

[812] I never hit the stage in the dreams.

[813] How many dreams do you have of pre -show?

[814] I've probably had, I don't know, gosh, a hundred in my life.

[815] Really?

[816] That's strange.

[817] And they're all pre -show, you know, walking around while the other guys on stage and peeking out the side and trying to see if people are focused and uh and yet in real life i don't really have that anxiety i mean you know what i mean it's not part of my maybe a little bit but not to the degree that it happens in my dreams that's so strange yeah they have those dream dictionaries or bibles where like if you're flying that means you're trying to reach something in your life that's you know hard to get to and stuff you've ever looked at one of those and you try to I don't buy that.

[818] Some of it I do kind of buy.

[819] Do you?

[820] The flying one I do.

[821] But drowning, maybe.

[822] And I used to have the flying dreams, which I don't have anymore.

[823] When I was young, I used to have this very bizarre recurring dream that I was the only one that figured out how to fly.

[824] And it was all about, no, no, no. It was a very gentle flight.

[825] It was trusting a gentle breeze.

[826] That's so bizarre.

[827] I was the only one that knew it could be like a three, four mile an hour breeze.

[828] I knew how to face it and trust it.

[829] I had to lean forward into it and then just lift my feet.

[830] And then I would just start kind of going up like a balloon very gently.

[831] And everybody would go, what the hell is going on here?

[832] That's so strange.

[833] But I was the only one that knew how to do it like no one else could figure it out.

[834] But it was a trusting.

[835] I had to trust that I could do it.

[836] That's so strange.

[837] What a bizarre dream.

[838] Yeah, I always had the flying one, but it was always very violent trying to, like, do the old, like, yeah, trying to do the bird flapping wing type thing.

[839] Yeah, so, yeah, everybody wants to fly and everybody wants to be able to breathe underwater.

[840] Those are two big ones.

[841] I don't have that.

[842] You ever had that?

[843] I don't have the water one, no. I've had that one.

[844] I've had the flying one and the breathe underwater one.

[845] Hmm.

[846] Yeah, those are, like, recurring archetypes or, you know, themes to dreams.

[847] The other one is sex.

[848] There's also, do you guys have reoccurring, like, houses?

[849] You get that soundtrack in your dreams?

[850] Always.

[851] I'm sorry, I'm about the bone.

[852] Do you guys get reoccurring, like, houses that you don't?

[853] What's that sound?

[854] Do you guys hear that?

[855] Did I do something?

[856] Yeah, what is that?

[857] What happened?

[858] You don't hear that, Jamie?

[859] Okay, that's not good.

[860] I think that you're...

[861] It's a tricaster about the shit in our mouth.

[862] You're about to have a sex dream, and it's a soundtrack starting to warm up.

[863] Whoa, that's an awful sound.

[864] Is that coming through?

[865] What did you just do?

[866] It's that.

[867] Move your laptop.

[868] Look at that weird.

[869] Nope, I thought that fixed it.

[870] Your laptop's on the microphone.

[871] Cable.

[872] That's weird.

[873] Yeah, it's on the mic cable.

[874] Do you guys have reoccurring, like...

[875] What the fuck did you just do there?

[876] Do you hear that?

[877] That crackle?

[878] Whoa.

[879] Was it only on my side?

[880] Oh, yeah, I didn't hear that one.

[881] We got a ghost in this one.

[882] fucking studio.

[883] I mean, that was your spine.

[884] I just started like this crazy crackle.

[885] Do you guys have reoccurring places in your dreams that don't even make, like I have a place that every time I go to, I'm like, oh, I'm at this place again, but it's not my house.

[886] It's not a place I've been to.

[887] It's just a reoccurring environment.

[888] What is it?

[889] Like, what does it look like?

[890] It's a hotel that's really, really tall, and the elevator is really fast, and it's just like this old haunted hotel.

[891] And I always go to this same hotel, and it's not a real hotel that I think of.

[892] But ever since I was a kid, the exact same hotel.

[893] And I'll have that dream, like, once of you where I go to this weird hotel.

[894] That hotel is in my dream, but I'm gently floating past on a breeze.

[895] And I just look over and I kind of wave at you down there.

[896] And you're flying up and down, like Tower of Terror.

[897] That's right.

[898] It's like Tower of Terror at Disneyland.

[899] You're terrorized.

[900] I can see you terrorized over there, but I'm just gently.

[901] enjoying life.

[902] Have you ever done that?

[903] Tower of Terror at Disneyland?

[904] No. California Adventures.

[905] It's fucking awesome.

[906] That's what it is.

[907] It's a haunted hotel elevator.

[908] Wow.

[909] Which sounds, yeah, that's what I was thinking when you were describing it.

[910] That's the Tower of Terror.

[911] Maybe.

[912] It's a dope elevator ride if you've ever done it.

[913] Yeah, it's really fun.

[914] You know, not the haunted mansion elevator where it stretches.

[915] No, no, it's Tower of Terror.

[916] It said California Great Adventure.

[917] Huh.

[918] California Adventures, whatever the fuck it is.

[919] And you get on this elevator and it tells you this story.

[920] It's like some Rod Sterling type dude.

[921] pretending to be the Twilight Zone guy and he tells you the whole story about these people that got zapped by electricity and they, you know, lightning bolt came and hit the elevator and killed them and turned them into ghosts and now they're fucking haunted and the elevator's haunted and you go flying up, flying down.

[922] Yeah, you literally, your ass comes off the seat, you have to strap in, but your ass literally comes up off the seat because you go down so quickly.

[923] You go down faster than gravity.

[924] Yeah.

[925] You should do that.

[926] No, I don't want to do that.

[927] It's fun.

[928] What if dreams are the real world and And this is our, the actual fake.

[929] What if ice cream is actually hot.

[930] Joey love what ifs.

[931] What are you talking about?

[932] What if?

[933] That's a dumb one, though.

[934] What if dreams in the real world?

[935] Well, there's no idea.

[936] There's no, no one has any idea what the fuck is going on when you close your eyes.

[937] You wake up in the morning and you got a whole new day.

[938] That consciousness, whatever it is, you know, unconscious consciousness, that state of mind, whatever it is, why you're sleeping.

[939] is very, very, like, poorly understood.

[940] We know that there's all sorts of chemicals floating around inside the brain while that's happening.

[941] There's REM sleep and all these different neurotransmitters that are buzzing around your system.

[942] But we don't really know what's going on.

[943] We don't, you know, when you have like deep, we assume that it's connected to various anxieties and wants and needs.

[944] And those are like the source of your dreams.

[945] But at the end of the day, it's a lot of fucking speculating.

[946] There's a lot of speculating as to what's happening while you're dreaming.

[947] Software updates.

[948] It could be.

[949] It could be that we have this idea.

[950] This is where it gets real weird, right?

[951] We have this idea that like everything that is in this world.

[952] We touch things and you pick things up and you weigh things, you measure things.

[953] That's the only way things can be real.

[954] The only way things can be real is if you can measure them and weigh them and put them in a box and carry them around.

[955] But that's our own prejudice because that's how we live most of our conscious life.

[956] We live most of our conscious life with very hard physical things.

[957] But if you're If you could just abandon that for a moment and just imagine a world where you don't have physical things that you pick up, would it be possible to exist only in a state of thought?

[958] Would it be possible that the mind is another environment or what you're thinking about in your imagination is another environment?

[959] It's just you don't, there's no solid things there.

[960] That's weird.

[961] Yeah.

[962] I mean, that's really what's going on.

[963] Well, here's one thing.

[964] You know, you talk about what's real and what's not real.

[965] I've had many moments in my dreams where I'm trying to decide if it's real or not, and I come to the conclusion that it is real, okay, in my dream.

[966] And then when I wake up, you know, we're in a different plane of existence where I go, okay, that was a dream, but why wasn't that real while it was happening?

[967] If I made the, if I came to the conclusion that that was real while I was experiencing it, I mean, that was as real at that time as later when I'm awake.

[968] yeah why are you not trusting your dream self and only trusting your this self is there all the time anyway I'm going to be at the chuckle hut this Saturday I got two shows Friday two Saturday it is a weird world the world of dreams it's a weird world all these people analyze them all these people debate what's going on I feel like I gave away my breeze dream now everyone's going to be now now when I'm dreaming I'm going to look around, everybody's going to be around me floating around going, hey, thanks for the tip.

[969] We didn't realize you just had to trust it.

[970] I'm going to darn it, now it's all crowded up here, man. Well, one of these days I'm going to figure out how to do lucid dreaming.

[971] I'm going to sit down with someone who actually is a real legit lucid dreamer and have a conversation with them about it.

[972] Because the people, there are techniques that you can practice, and there's states of mind that you can get yourself into, allegedly.

[973] I've never experienced it other than accidentally.

[974] But when you have dreams, you can control those dreams, and that you could navigate and create things that happen in your dreams, be aware of the fact that you're doing it, like that it's a skill and that you could develop it.

[975] Yeah, I've never, I've had dreams that are lucid dreams, but totally accidentally.

[976] And one of the ways that I learned was one of those movies was wacky movies, like, what the bleep do we know?

[977] One of those through the rabbit hole or something like that.

[978] But the guy was talking about lucid dreams, and he was saying, That you have them all the time.

[979] You just don't realize you're having them.

[980] One way to determine it is in your real life, in your conscious state, when you walk through a doorway, knock on the side of the door and say, am I dreaming?

[981] Like every time you walk through a doorway, go, am I dreaming?

[982] And because you do it consciously all the time, if you do it all the time, am I dreaming, am I dreaming, you're going to do it in your sleep.

[983] And in your sleep, you're going to get to a doorway and you're going to go, am I dreaming?

[984] Oh, my God, I'm dreaming.

[985] It's going to go right through it.

[986] but you're going to stay awake.

[987] I did it once.

[988] Once.

[989] I only did that once.

[990] I never really, most of the time I'm tired.

[991] I'm like, fuck, I'm going to sleep.

[992] You know, I just, I don't deal.

[993] But if you're one of those people that practices it on a daily basis, apparently you can get really good at it.

[994] And you can make all sorts of crazy things happen.

[995] You live in like these wild sex orgy dreams where you can do whatever you want.

[996] You fly around.

[997] You live in space.

[998] You hang out with robots.

[999] You do whatever the fuck you know.

[1000] I want to get in an orgy with robots.

[1001] Well, there's enough people talking about lucid dreaming It's not bullshit Freddy does it Freddy Lockhart Does he?

[1002] Yeah, he reads all the books And he practices it all the time Hmm I remember talking to somebody years ago Who said she could astral project I don't know if I'm pronouncing that right A -S -T -R -A -L Squirt from the butt Astral -Project Yes She'd say excuse me I have to go Astral Project I'll be back in a couple minutes No This is a right word Maybe I've got it wrong No, she said she would go somewhere in her head, but, like, leave her physical body, and she'd be above her body and go somewhere else and be aware of it, and then she could come back into her body.

[1003] Was this while she was awake or sleeping?

[1004] No, I think it was while she was awake.

[1005] Schizophrenic?

[1006] Maybe that was it.

[1007] It's probably similar as to a lucid dream.

[1008] You know, you're creating this artificial reality, or maybe, look, you're seeing things, right?

[1009] I mean, just because you can't, again, put those things on a scale and weigh them and measure, it doesn't mean you're not having that actual experience.

[1010] So when you're closing your eyes, you're meditating and you project yourself above your body, who knows what the fuck is really going on?

[1011] Obviously, we think that you're just imagining shit, and the shit that you're imagining is not real.

[1012] But it might very well be that we're just so enamored by this state of things being solid that we don't think that unless you could touch something and feel it and put it on a scale and measure with a tape ruler, it's not real.

[1013] I'm interested in the concept, too, that most things are a facade, like we are enjoying or experiencing something that isn't there.

[1014] When we watch a football game on a big screen TV, those football players aren't there.

[1015] They're at another location, but we are experiencing it as if we were there.

[1016] You talked about the car and the fake gauges, you know.

[1017] You're looking at a facade, and you get right down to human beings.

[1018] I mean, we have the skin and muscles and eyes, but right past that is this bizarre skull and muscle thing.

[1019] And so what is the, you know what I mean?

[1020] We're looking at a facade that we're comfortable with, but what is an inch beyond that?

[1021] It's a scary, scary thing, but I think we need facades.

[1022] that we can be comfortable with to be able to experience life in a way that isn't scary.

[1023] Yeah, like I think about you, Brian Regan, I know you, I know your personality, but deep into your head, there's this bunch of weird synapses that are firing.

[1024] Your life experiences is all like manifesting itself in your actions and in your behavior.

[1025] It's a very weird thing to be a person.

[1026] Very, very weird thing.

[1027] Yeah, but that's a really good way of looking at it.

[1028] It's like you're projecting it.

[1029] That's why it weirds us out whenever someone, like, does weird shit with their face, you know, like, whenever someone gets their lips done or gets their cheeks puffed up with that weird shit that they do, man, that freaks me out.

[1030] That freaks me out more than almost anything.

[1031] When people get stuff put in their face and their churfer, like, it's like, what do you, you know, it's, you're confusing me. I can't, I'm used to this certain, like, yeah, I doesn't mind, I don't mind aging.

[1032] I don't mind if it changes over time.

[1033] That all seems normal.

[1034] but when you start putting stuff in there and pumping things up and Botoxing shit and stuff that weirds people out because it's like man I'm missing the signal's all fucking screwing It's like if you can't Have the normal facial Reactions to express The proper emotions Yeah the signals are getting all Cross that is a weird one when they have the rubber in their face and their face doesn't move Right like I remember we were at The Brea Improv And Joan Rivers rest of her soul, was on television.

[1035] She had a reality show with her and her daughter.

[1036] And it was me and Joey and Ari, and we were barbecued.

[1037] We were way too high to be watching the Joan Rivers thing.

[1038] And I was freaking out about her face.

[1039] I was like looking at this weird, frozen kabuki mask thing that is her field of expression.

[1040] It was just very bizarre.

[1041] Like everything was like pushed up and filled.

[1042] and frozen it just wasn't moving right and it was like oh my god like you're it's way better to be old than to be that well i i i contest that in the sense that people want to do things to make themselves feel better and sometimes they feel if they look better they're going to feel better nobody questions somebody when they comb their hair or brush their hair or wear contacts instead of glasses or shave their beard you know those those are things that you know could be considered selfish and vain.

[1043] Shaving your beard?

[1044] Well, I mean, you know, like trimming it, I mean.

[1045] You know, and some people will go to extra extremes and want to put stuff in their face.

[1046] And it makes them feel better.

[1047] I agree with you.

[1048] It could look kind of strange.

[1049] But if it makes them feel better, hey, you know, free will.

[1050] Well, it is nice to feel better.

[1051] That's true.

[1052] But when you see someone and their face is no longer a human face.

[1053] It's like a weird mask, a frozen mask, that doesn't communicate right.

[1054] It's just, it gives you a creepy feeling.

[1055] Like, is it, it can, the signals are all wrong.

[1056] Like, if you talk to someone and you talk to, like, a really old person and there's lines all over their face and you're talking to them, you realize, wow, this guy has lived 90 years, 90 years on this planet.

[1057] Like, you could see it in his face.

[1058] But if you talk to that same guy, and he's this frozen mask with silicone in his lips, it's like, everything.

[1059] Like, it's fucking strange.

[1060] Because you're not getting in there.

[1061] You're not seeing it.

[1062] It's like you're talking to him through a really thickly tinted window.

[1063] Like I see there's a person in there and they're talking to me, but I don't, I'm not exactly sure what kind of expressions they're making.

[1064] You know?

[1065] You know that weird, there's a weird thing that people do when they shut off the expressions of their face.

[1066] It doesn't, they can't fucking moving around anymore.

[1067] You ever see someone?

[1068] They have like, they're super.

[1069] Like Travolta?

[1070] Well, he's not, is he fucked up?

[1071] Yeah, his face is fucked up?

[1072] Yeah, his face looks pretty, pretty worked on.

[1073] Well, maybe.

[1074] He's old.

[1075] I mean, it's not that.

[1076] I don't know.

[1077] He doesn't, he doesn't Joan Rivers at.

[1078] Did you hear the thing recently?

[1079] Like, this was like a day before the Oscars that he got, he was at a gym at three in the morning in Hollywood.

[1080] And this guy was working out, and then Javille just comes up and just, like, introduce this like, hey, how's it going?

[1081] I'm John.

[1082] How's it going?

[1083] It wasn't a week before.

[1084] It was a long time ago.

[1085] Oh, was it?

[1086] Yeah, it was a store that was a store that was.

[1087] went around.

[1088] It was like a non -story.

[1089] It's like, what did he do?

[1090] He said hi to a guy in the morning.

[1091] Who knows what he really did?

[1092] We're taking that guy's word for it.

[1093] He's probably trying to get his dick sucked.

[1094] You're right.

[1095] Probably.

[1096] It's probably what he does.

[1097] You know, three o 'clock in the morning.

[1098] You never know.

[1099] Maybe it's like rest stops.

[1100] Like, that's where gay dudes meet to try to hook it.

[1101] Equinox.

[1102] Yeah.

[1103] You never know.

[1104] You never know.

[1105] But so is that what the gist of the story was that he was trying to hit on a guy?

[1106] The guy said that it was really awkward because at 3 in the morning this guy comes up to him and like hold out his hand starts like introducing himself and the guy was like I felt what he was doing but I was well I read the story was I mean the guy was just saying it was odd to talk to John but it's a non -story the guy said a guy said hi I mean it could be you yeah Brian Redburn came into the fucking equinox 3 o 'clock in the morning was weird out to me and it's like real strange you know okay let's print a story imagine if it was a story it became a story every time you said hi to someone at the gym You know what?

[1107] It is, every celebrity encounter is a story, not necessarily something that, you know, gets into the media.

[1108] But I remember living in New York and taking a train out to Chuckles in Mineola, I think.

[1109] Yeah.

[1110] And they put you in a place where they put you in a cab.

[1111] You know, it's like five people have to share a cab from the train station to the town.

[1112] So there's, well, three people, I guess.

[1113] So we're in a cab.

[1114] and the guy goes, so where you had?

[1115] And I said, I'm going to chuckles.

[1116] And, oh, you're a comedian?

[1117] Yeah, you know, you get into that awkward conversation.

[1118] And so this cab driver says, I had Roseanne Barr in the car.

[1119] And I remember driving by, and she was looking out the window, and she was intrigued by a mailbox that she saw in front of one of the houses.

[1120] And, you know, so there's like a nothing story.

[1121] But I'm thinking, Roseanne Barr, doesn't remember this story but this guy that's his Roseanne well Roseanne Arnold now but I mean that's his story so like if anybody gets into an elevator with a celebrity they they will tell that story for the rest of their life that the celebrity is not going to remember that particular elevator ride but if you happen to be in an elevator one time in your life with Paul Newman anytime that's Paul Newman's mentioned you're going that's your story And it's weird that every encounter is a story to somebody.

[1122] I had a story that I talked about on the podcast because a guy in an elevator, me and my friend Eddie were in an elevator, and some guy was in the elevator.

[1123] And apparently when the guy left the elevator, he said, take it easy or something like that, and we didn't respond.

[1124] Or if I did respond, he didn't hear me. I don't know what happened.

[1125] But he wrote this long, crazy post on this message board about what had.

[1126] douchebag I am.

[1127] I mean, I literally, I mean, it was like, hey, it's up, so get in the elevator.

[1128] Right.

[1129] The guy left and, you know, and I thought that was it.

[1130] There was a guy on an elevator and that's it.

[1131] But in his mind, he was slighted, like in some strange way, which is, if someone says hi to me, I always say hi.

[1132] I'm not the type of person that says, take it easy.

[1133] I'll say, yeah, take it easy.

[1134] You know, always, always trying to be cordial.

[1135] I'm just not that guy.

[1136] Right.

[1137] So reading that, this, like, artificial creation in this guy's mind.

[1138] And then he apologized for it.

[1139] And then it got really weird.

[1140] Like, you know, like people, he got called out on it.

[1141] And so that, like, you responded in a way.

[1142] And then he, and then he apologized.

[1143] It was a message board that I go to.

[1144] So it was like really strange.

[1145] I was like, what are you talking about?

[1146] And so then he backed off of it and apologized and said he was just insecure.

[1147] It was like, it was very, very, very fucking strange.

[1148] But to see someone just create this artificial version of an encounter and in their mind, I mean, his mind, who knows?

[1149] I don't know what issues this guy had.

[1150] Obviously, he has some.

[1151] Otherwise, he wouldn't have ever made a post like that.

[1152] Even if you had slighted him, why is that, you know, what's the big deal to him and the rest of his existence?

[1153] And if it was a slight, I mean, I mean, it wasn't.

[1154] But in his version of a slight, it was as minor as it gets.

[1155] Like, take it easy.

[1156] That's what I mean.

[1157] No one says anything back.

[1158] That's it.

[1159] And this fucking diatribe, I mean, several paragraphs of bile, like spewed by this guy.

[1160] But in some people's minds, like these encounters, like you talking to Roseanne Barr about a fucking mailbox, like it's like, yeah, Rosam Barr shits on people's mailboxes.

[1161] I'm like, what kind of mailbox you got in Bel Air, you fucking cunt?

[1162] Like for whatever, what guy?

[1163] That's a strange mailbox.

[1164] Maybe he's just trying to make small talk, you fuck.

[1165] No, he wasn't saying it negatively.

[1166] He was just saying that that was what his encounter was.

[1167] So that was his story.

[1168] But it could be negative.

[1169] I mean, there's a lot of those.

[1170] I've had conversations with people.

[1171] I always get in when I get in limos I always ask who's the biggest shit head you ever had to drive around It's always the same three people too There's a few people where We've done that a bunch of times We hear that hmm Can't believe it's him again Smoking fire There's definitely that Well everybody everybody should get one pass You know what I mean Everybody's gonna have a bad thing Or something that's confused But if it's a recurring thing Then there's probably some truth to it Absolutely I was in an elevator one time With a guy And he recognized me as a comedian and he wanted to do one of my bits to me. But he got it wrong.

[1172] And the bit was just an old bit I used to do about saying, you too, at the wrong time.

[1173] Getting out of a cab at the airport and the driver goes, have a nice flight.

[1174] And you go, you too.

[1175] So that's the bit.

[1176] So I'm in the elevator with him, this guy.

[1177] And he goes, oh, you're a comedian, right?

[1178] And I said, yeah.

[1179] Yeah, how you doing?

[1180] And he goes, you're the guy that says, and you all the time.

[1181] So I'm not going to call him out.

[1182] I'm honored even those.

[1183] who I am.

[1184] So I'm not going to embarrass him.

[1185] I said, yeah, that's me. That's me. And he goes, yeah.

[1186] He goes, I do that all the time.

[1187] I'm always saying and you at the wrong time.

[1188] And now I'm like, no, I should have corrected the guy.

[1189] You know what I mean?

[1190] And he goes, yeah, there's probably not a day that goes by that.

[1191] I don't yell, and you.

[1192] And I'm thinking, this is getting off the tracks.

[1193] So the elevator door opens.

[1194] It's in a casino with a bunch of people, and we walk off the elevator.

[1195] I'm going one way, and he goes the other way.

[1196] So he starts yelling to me thinking it's going to be funny what he thinks is my bit in a casino now with hundreds of people and he's going and you and you oh god and i'm thinking i'm the only guy here who knows what this guy's talking about and i don't know what he's talking about it was very very strange you could run into people man and you just you zig when you should have zagged and you run to someone who's completely out of their fucking mind and then they become a part of your life.

[1197] I mean, that can happen.

[1198] You could definitely run into the wrong people, especially if it's a girl, especially if you're single.

[1199] You just, for whatever reason, start talking to someone and it turns out they're fucking crazy.

[1200] And then you, you know, that's the problem with men.

[1201] Men are willing to, we're willing to look past a lot of shit if a chick's hot.

[1202] Like, I know a lot of guys that have gotten involved with girls that are just completely out of their fucking mind, but they're pretty.

[1203] And they're just like, oh, you know.

[1204] She's a little weird, but no, no, if she was a guy, you would be running from her.

[1205] And you!

[1206] And you!

[1207] Imagine if that was a gal?

[1208] She had giant tits and a thin waist and a perfect dance.

[1209] Exactly.

[1210] I'd go, yeah, that's me, I'm that guy.

[1211] You're like, hey, what are we partying?

[1212] What are we doing later?

[1213] And you, and it ain't me, man, let's do it up.

[1214] You take it to a restaurant.

[1215] She's yelling out, and you, and you.

[1216] And then she sees your act, and then, like, she sees an old recording, and she sees that bit.

[1217] And she's like, what the fuck?

[1218] You didn't even tell me. You had me making an asshole out of myself.

[1219] You're fucking selfish piece of shit.

[1220] Fucked you, Brian.

[1221] Are you doing, like, during the wedding vows, and she says, and you go, all right, I got to tell you.

[1222] That ain't the joke.

[1223] The people that you meet in this wacky life.

[1224] I got to think the people you meet living in Vegas is, well, you're in Henderson, right?

[1225] Well, I don't want to tell you where you.

[1226] Oh, too late.

[1227] I'm not there anyway.

[1228] Good, beautiful.

[1229] You're in one of those suburban towns outside of the Vegas.

[1230] And you're actually further than that.

[1231] You're, like, deep in the woods in a secret underground compound we can't discuss.

[1232] But the point being that, like, you're actually in a real normal town that just happens to be next to the Death Star.

[1233] Like, you're, like, you're, like, in the vicinity of the Death Star.

[1234] Like, you could probably, like, drive and you can get to the strip in a reasonable amount of time.

[1235] But the people that you live with, are they, like, affected?

[1236] all by the fact that they live in Vegas, or do they seem like regular folks in a regular town?

[1237] Well, I used to live in a house and a cul -de -sac, and so there was more interaction with the neighbors, and now I live in one of those, you know, condo kind of deals.

[1238] So now I have less interaction with the other people in the condo.

[1239] But in the cul -de -sac, you know, one thing I liked about it and didn't like about the neighbor thing.

[1240] One, I'm not a kind of guy that just wants to have a conversation when somebody else feels like having a conversation.

[1241] I just felt weird about pulling up into the driveway, and then Joe Blow wants to just walk up and just start talking about the water pump or something that has to do with the cul -de -sac, or even small talk.

[1242] It's like, well, I don't want to do that right now.

[1243] But one thing I did like about it is because it was so non -show busy.

[1244] You know, I've got a lot of friends in show business, and I love them.

[1245] And, of course, they're going to be interested in their careers, and that's what people are going to tend to talk about.

[1246] When I lived in L .A., there was just a disproportionate amount of conversations about auditions that people went to and what they're up for and how they feel about an agent or this or that.

[1247] And that's okay, but it's nice to be away from that.

[1248] And one thing I loved about this just very suburban kind of cul -de -sac in Las Vegas was, you know, I'd come back from the road, right?

[1249] So I'm just, I'm doing comedy and I'm doing show business, and I come back from the road.

[1250] and there's neighbor kids riding their bikes in the cul -de -sac and the dad's saying, yeah, I put her bike together yesterday and it's just very real.

[1251] And I liked having this showbiz life balanced with a real grounded kind of world where not everything is about, you know, furthering careers and stuff.

[1252] Yeah, that's a big thing that a lot of people experience about any sort of environment like Hollywood.

[1253] where it's just so based on one industry.

[1254] You just get so wrapped up in that world that it's exhausting.

[1255] When I was living in Las Vegas, I've been in Las Vegas over 10 years now, and I was out here doing something, and I met a guy on the street.

[1256] I didn't know who he was, but he was a comedian and said, hey, man, he knew who I was.

[1257] So I said, hey, how's it going?

[1258] And he said, well, I've got an audition for this.

[1259] And he started telling me things he was up to showbiz -wise.

[1260] and I'm thinking that's not what I meant by how are you doing?

[1261] Right.

[1262] I meant like, you know, how are things that you feel?

[1263] There's a guy that I won't name, but I can't talk to him anymore because every time I talk to him that happens.

[1264] I ran into him.

[1265] We were both working the same venue.

[1266] He was doing the early show.

[1267] I was doing the late show.

[1268] And I ran into him, and I said, hey, man, what's up?

[1269] Well, I've got a blah, blah, blah, blah.

[1270] I mean, it just starts reading off.

[1271] Resum.

[1272] He starts reading off this deal that he's gotten, his backup deal that he's got.

[1273] I mean, he went on for several minutes.

[1274] It was fucking exhausting.

[1275] And I went, good to see you're doing well.

[1276] Yeah.

[1277] I took a deep breath and looked like, I don't know what to say.

[1278] Like, I was stuck in this fucking hallway talking to this guy.

[1279] There was no way to get out.

[1280] There was no one there but me and him.

[1281] And he just rattles off this fucking crazy resume of bullshit.

[1282] Just nonsense that, by the way, never happened.

[1283] None of it happened.

[1284] I mean, here we are years later.

[1285] None of those things took place.

[1286] But he was telling me that he had to back up.

[1287] deal.

[1288] This sitcom, if this didn't go, he has a backup deal.

[1289] They're going to pay him this amount of money.

[1290] It was just nonsense.

[1291] But that happens.

[1292] I've never had a backup deal, man. I want to get where I'm in that place where I have a deal and a backup deal.

[1293] I don't even have a deal.

[1294] I don't even think he had a backup deal.

[1295] I think he's just a, I don't even think he's a bullshit artist.

[1296] I think, you know, that's just what he wanted, what he wanted.

[1297] So he's just like telling me that he's doing great.

[1298] There's some people they run into you, you know, you run into certain guys and you want to prove to them that you're doing well.

[1299] You know, like they maybe have some weird thing about them.

[1300] Like they go, oh, this guy's doing better than me. I'm going to tell him I'm doing awesome.

[1301] I'm going to let him know right away that we're on even ground.

[1302] So that's where this, you know, if he was running into some open micer, you know, and say, hey, man, how you doing?

[1303] He'd be like, yeah, good, how you doing?

[1304] Like, that would be normal because he would already feel like he has the advantage.

[1305] Right.

[1306] Right.

[1307] And I know, I'm guilty of having, I don't know, there are times when I think, you know, I have the proper amount of just low -key thing, but I know there's a little piece of me, that little ego part of me that needs to participate.

[1308] You know, it, like, comes out of me sometimes.

[1309] If, like, if somebody has the wrong idea of maybe what I've been able to do as a comedian.

[1310] Right.

[1311] You know, like you meet somebody at a party or something.

[1312] And I'll never say what I do unless I'm point blank asked.

[1313] And I'll go, what do you do?

[1314] And so then now I'm going to be honest.

[1315] I'm a comedian.

[1316] And they go, oh, you do like open mic nights and stuff like that.

[1317] Is that what you do?

[1318] And then that little ego part of me is like, now how do I reply to this?

[1319] Yeah.

[1320] You know, this person has the wrong idea of what I do, you know, or where I'm at.

[1321] But you can't be braggy either.

[1322] But you don't want to be braggy, you know.

[1323] So at what level do you answer a question?

[1324] like that you know just like do i just say no i don't do open mic nights and let it go with that or do i you know throw something out there that i've accomplished well i used to you could say maybe i used to do open mic nights there you go yeah i had this guy run i ran this guy at a fucking gun store for you know at all places and um the first words that i said to this guy never met him before first words he goes hey uh you're uh you're jo rogan right I go, yeah, he goes, how's your career doing?

[1325] That's his first words.

[1326] I go, I go, it's good.

[1327] He goes, you're not doing that Fear Factor show, huh?

[1328] Like, puts me in the defense, I go, nope.

[1329] And he goes, tough business.

[1330] Good luck.

[1331] I'm like, whoa.

[1332] But it was so douchey.

[1333] The way he was doing it, it was so duchy.

[1334] Those are the only words I said.

[1335] I'm like, all right.

[1336] And like, literally it ended right there.

[1337] I was under the end.

[1338] influence of the sacred plant at the time, which allowed me to relax more.

[1339] But it was like, I wasn't going to get in an argument with the guy about it or correct him, but I was, like, it was taken aback by, how's your career?

[1340] Like, with the first words out of his mouth.

[1341] You know, you could have said, well, you just said my name.

[1342] Yeah.

[1343] So obviously, you know who I am.

[1344] Yeah, but he's trying to paint me as a has been.

[1345] You know, that's what, there's people that will do that to you, they try to paint you as a has been.

[1346] Hey, like, a guy did it to me at CVS once.

[1347] a guy that it's working behind the counter at CVS there's this guy I don't know what country he's from but he's super he doesn't work there anymore but he was like super like agro he's like this this fucking face like and he goes hey you don't have that show anymore like that's the words he said wow and I go what you know I'm like if you don't have that show anymore huh and I go no I don't have that show anymore I also don't work at CVS fucking idiot like what are you talking to I can leave anytime I want motherfucker you got to stay till your shifts over.

[1348] I had a...

[1349] What a dick.

[1350] How much could you possibly make at CBS that you want to get shitty with someone who comes in that used to be on a TV show?

[1351] Like, he just...

[1352] The way he was saying was just trying to put me on the defensive.

[1353] Like, make me feel bad.

[1354] But he didn't...

[1355] But he didn't think it out.

[1356] Much like he probably didn't think his life out, which is why he was the fucking late -night guy at CVS working behind a...

[1357] There's a lot of...

[1358] I'm fortunate in that my...

[1359] The people that come out to see my show...

[1360] They're pretty cool people, man. You know, I like meeting them after the show, and they're nice people, you know?

[1361] So I have no complaints there.

[1362] But every once in a while, you're going to get a curveball.

[1363] And I was working at the improv down in Irvine.

[1364] And I remember I had a pretty strong set, felt pretty good.

[1365] I walked off stage.

[1366] And this guy, like, walks, like, just belined back to me, who was in the middle of the audience.

[1367] And I felt, okay, I just made people laugh for an hour, you know?

[1368] I felt like I did my job.

[1369] And he goes, hey, didn't I see you bomb on Arsenio like 10 years ago?

[1370] I was like, yeah, yeah, I had a rough one.

[1371] Did you see Tonight Show?

[1372] You were in the middle of tonight.

[1373] I just did an hour tonight.

[1374] We're not talking about that.

[1375] We're talking about 10 years ago.

[1376] Yeah, people want to make you feel bad.

[1377] A rough set.

[1378] Plus people see you.

[1379] You know, like, oh, this guy thinks he's something special.

[1380] I'm going to let him know.

[1381] I saw him.

[1382] I'm going to knock him down a peg.

[1383] I saw him when he wasn't at his best.

[1384] Yeah.

[1385] Saw him in that weird environment of the, those shows.

[1386] Doing stand -up on one of those fucking shows is so brutal.

[1387] It's so hard to, first of all, I don't know, like, if you feel comfortable doing, like, a real short set.

[1388] But I always feel real weird when I would do five minutes.

[1389] Like, five minutes to me, it's like, I don't, that's, I have long bits.

[1390] Like, five minutes to me is just exploring a premise.

[1391] It's a whole different.

[1392] an animal.

[1393] You know, I, uh, I like the challenge of it, but it's, it's so different from doing an hour set, especially an hour set in front of people who, you know, they're there to see what you do.

[1394] Yeah.

[1395] Um, but if I do lettermen or something like that, I'm walking out to a group of people who have no clue who I am, maybe a handful of people in the audience do, but for the most part, it's like, you know, here's a comedian and, uh, you're walking out.

[1396] And on letterman, You get four and a half minutes, and, you know, it's a very, very challenging thing to, yeah, I describe it to people as, people think of comedy as knocking down the pins.

[1397] Well, the hard part is setting up the pins.

[1398] There's no pins set up.

[1399] Yeah.

[1400] You're walking out to nothing.

[1401] Yeah.

[1402] You're walking out to nothing.

[1403] And you have to set up pins quickly and then knock them down.

[1404] Yeah.

[1405] And people don't realize that that's part of the art form and part of the challenge.

[1406] challenge is coming out to nothing.

[1407] It's white virgin snow, and you have to quickly talk about something and set up something and then start getting people into that.

[1408] And it's a lot more challenging than people might think.

[1409] It's one of the harder jobs in as far as stand -up goes is doing a talk show set.

[1410] It's one of the harder gigs.

[1411] It's like opening up because like when you go on stage, cold and there's no one who warms up the crowd before you you have to get everybody into the mindset there's like there's a thing going on the way i describe it is it's like almost like a mass hypnosis like when i'm watching a brian reagan show when you're killing i'm thinking the way you're thinking you're i'm not thinking in my mind like man he's doing like if i was in my own head it's like man i don't like the way he dresses this guy's fucking walks weird you know what i mean like if you have like you're going to get out of the mindset right when when a guy's killing when you're up there and you're letting it loose and everything's flowing, I'm thinking like you.

[1412] I'm allowing you to sort of control where my thoughts go and you're surprising me with your statements and those surprises are often really funny and that's how you kind of get comedy going.

[1413] But when you're just starting out, like ready, go and you're doing four minutes, you don't get a chance to hypnotize anybody.

[1414] You just kind of got to hope that they're kind and that they're receptive.

[1415] and then they think that your first few words are reasonable enough to allow you a certain amount of access to their funny thought.

[1416] I remember so many years ago, and I wish I could remember who it was, this was before I had ever done a TV set, say that you have to get it into your head that the first joke is going to be a foul ball and don't let it throw you because you're not going to get the reaction that you get in front of your fans.

[1417] Your first set on a TV, your first joke and a TV audience, they don't know you.

[1418] They're going, who is this guy?

[1419] You know, they're usually trying to be friendly.

[1420] They want to like you.

[1421] So your first joke is their absolute first clue of how you think as a comedian.

[1422] So they're not going to be all in yet.

[1423] Yeah.

[1424] So it might get a laugh, but it might not get the laugh that you're used to it getting.

[1425] But you have to understand that and go, I know this first one is a foul ball.

[1426] It's just going to go off.

[1427] And if it does get a bigger laugh, okay, that's a bonus.

[1428] Now I can ride it.

[1429] But I think it's best to go out there assuming that it might.

[1430] get nothing or a little laugh.

[1431] Yeah.

[1432] Because if you go out there thinking this is going to kill and it doesn't, it could throw you for the whole set.

[1433] Yeah, I've seen that.

[1434] I've seen that in regular shows.

[1435] I've seen guys go out there that never have opened up before, you know, or haven't done in a long time, and they'll go out and try to rush it.

[1436] They'll try to rush the first joke, like before, like, settle down, folks, what's up?

[1437] How's everybody doing?

[1438] Thanks for coming out tonight.

[1439] They just immediately go into a bit.

[1440] Right.

[1441] And when you immediately go into a bit and it doesn't work, then you're like on defensive mode or tailspin mode and you're trying to recover and I I've you know I'm it's a constant quest to try to figure out how how to learn how to do comedy both in front of fans or in front of TV audiences and stuff like that and that's one thing I love about it is that you're always learning you're always learning sometimes you can prepare too much sometimes you can prepare too little it's like it's a never -ending process you right I think it would be a mistake to get to the point where go okay I got this figured out yeah I don't ever want to feel like that i want to feel like i'm learning every time i hit the stage and um that's one of those things that's a blast about doing like uh a tv set you know i i've kind of learned over the years after the foul ball it's a it's it's it's animals man it's it's like you have to let that audience know you are comfortable you got to let them know they smell your weakness yes you got to let them know i got this and um And it's a cool feeling because that's the moment where you're either going to go south or you're going to get them.

[1442] You know what I mean?

[1443] And it's a fun, I don't know, it's fun.

[1444] It's like hunting, I guess, you know what I mean?

[1445] No, I love it.

[1446] I love it too.

[1447] Same for the same reason.

[1448] Because it's constantly challenging.

[1449] Yeah.

[1450] Yeah.

[1451] You never have it down.

[1452] You just don't.

[1453] You know, you have it good enough.

[1454] And you can go out there.

[1455] Like, I'm confident.

[1456] Like, I did some shows this weekend in Portland.

[1457] Every show was fucking amazing.

[1458] Great crowd.

[1459] Had a great time.

[1460] But before every show.

[1461] I'm going over my notes.

[1462] I'm thinking about what bits I want to do.

[1463] I'm tweaking this and tweaking that.

[1464] And I'm getting in the right.

[1465] You can't, you can't disrespect it.

[1466] You know, you can't ever get cocky.

[1467] You can't ever think that, you know, for whatever reason that there's the learning process is over.

[1468] It's never over.

[1469] Especially when you're constantly creating new material.

[1470] Then it's really never over.

[1471] Like I did a special November, abandoned all the material.

[1472] Once it was done, once it was on TV, I'm done.

[1473] Now I have a whole new fucking hour I have to.

[1474] hone and sharpen and add to and that's always terrifying it's always terrifying when you're trying out new shit and adding new shit to it and tweaking it and changing it but that's what's exciting about it that's what's so fun about it it's so fun that you've got all this new stuff that's in your head and it's like the saddest thing about comedy is watching those guys that have been doing comedy forever that do the same jokes they did 20 years ago that's one of the saddest things you could ever see yeah i um i worked with the guy one time and he had a bit and uh It was a pretty good bit.

[1475] And I remember thinking, ah, that's a good idea.

[1476] And he needs to, you know, work on that, you know, tighten it up and then get to that point a little bit quicker or whatever.

[1477] Yeah.

[1478] And then I worked with the guy like two years later.

[1479] And he did the same joke, word for word, like no tightening of the screws at all.

[1480] And I remember kind of being disappointed, like, as a fellow comedian, saying, well, I mean, I didn't say that to him, but thinking, why aren't you working on this?

[1481] Well, it's delusional.

[1482] He's delusional.

[1483] He's delusional or he's lazy.

[1484] Those are the two options, right?

[1485] It's like you're either delusional or you think it's good enough and you don't have to change it, or you're lazy in that you don't want to work.

[1486] You don't want to fuck with it.

[1487] You don't want to tweak it.

[1488] You have to.

[1489] There's no way you get good.

[1490] Years ago, I started at the comic strip in Fort Lauderdale, and Rodney Dangerfield was performing at the Sunrise Musical Theater, and he came into the comic strip to do a guest set, like warming up for his big thing, you know, down the road.

[1491] So, of course, a small comedy club in Fort Lauderdale.

[1492] We're honored to have him.

[1493] He goes on stage, the crowd goes nuts.

[1494] You know, it's a small audience, you know, 200 people or whatever.

[1495] He's like, hey, you know, thanks for, I want to work some stuff out.

[1496] You know, I appreciate it, you know.

[1497] He takes his glasses out.

[1498] And I'd been doing comedy like six months at this point.

[1499] You know, I worked there as a bus boy, and they let me go on late at night.

[1500] And here I get to watch Rodney Dangerfield.

[1501] He goes on stage, he tells the audience that he wants to work on some jokes.

[1502] He takes glasses, little reading glasses out.

[1503] He takes out about 20 little three by five cards.

[1504] And he reads them, half performing them, half reading them, you know, going, I just want to get a feel for these things, you know.

[1505] And he does them and some laugh, some work, some don't work.

[1506] And then he leaves.

[1507] And I'm like, wow, that was interesting.

[1508] You know, he's working on his act.

[1509] I'd never seen a star comedian work on his act.

[1510] He came in the next night and said, hey, he.

[1511] You know, can I do a guest set?

[1512] Of course.

[1513] He goes on, now there's no glasses.

[1514] There's no three -by -five cards.

[1515] Of the 20 jokes, he's doing about eight of them, and they're tighter versions of what he had done the night before.

[1516] And it, I'm getting goosebumps just thinking about it.

[1517] It's like when it dawned on me, this is an art form.

[1518] This is a craft, and you can work at this.

[1519] You can, anybody could watch Rodney Dangerfield's end result and just laugh.

[1520] That was fun.

[1521] But I got to watch him, I got to watch him figure this out, take stuff, trim out fat, and figure it how to make a set.

[1522] And, like, from that moment on, I realized, you know, just go on stage and go home and just chill.

[1523] You know, you work on it.

[1524] And so I love the process.

[1525] I love the offstage process.

[1526] I love working on jokes, man, making them 1 % better.

[1527] That's always my philosophy.

[1528] I just, if I can change one word and make that joke one percent better, why not?

[1529] Yeah, or cut words out and get to it quicker and it has more impact.

[1530] Right.

[1531] And that doesn't mean, you know, that every joke needs, you know, some jokes, yeah, it's better to stretch something out.

[1532] If it's a freer form kind of thing.

[1533] To me, it's like an accordion, you know?

[1534] Some stuff you're pulling out and other stuff you're squeezed, and all that stuff is happening simultaneously.

[1535] Or like maybe music where sometimes you have this like really slow buildup and sometimes it's like really fast and really loud.

[1536] It all varies, and it all depends on the subject matter.

[1537] It depends on what you're trying to do and what that bit leads into.

[1538] When you write, do you write on paper?

[1539] Do you write on a computer?

[1540] Do you sit down and say, I'm going to write jokes today?

[1541] Or do you just have an idea and just start writing about it?

[1542] I don't know how to sit down in front of a blank piece of paper or a blank computer screen and come up with stuff.

[1543] I don't know how to do that.

[1544] You know, the original inspiration has to be external.

[1545] You know, I just have to experience something or see something or read something.

[1546] So I just go through my normal day or life the way I normally would, and things jump up and down.

[1547] It's like a kid in gym class, you know, pick me to be on a basketball team.

[1548] Something in life jumps up and down and you go, oh, that's weird.

[1549] And then you have your initial weird comedic view of it.

[1550] So the inspiration comes from an external source.

[1551] And then, all right, now I have the nucleus.

[1552] Then I can write.

[1553] Then it's like, okay, now I know what the thought is, the idea.

[1554] Now what words am I going to apply to it to get from beginning to middle to end?

[1555] And then that part could take a year or longer, you know, going on every night and changing the words, changing it, tightening it, switching it, you know, things like that.

[1556] And you don't go necessarily to comedy clubs to work out.

[1557] You kind of work out your bits in between, like, bits that are already established.

[1558] Yeah.

[1559] Because most of the time you're doing these big theaters and you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're.

[1560] Do you tour, like, four or five days in a row, or do you just do weekends?

[1561] Like, how do you set it up?

[1562] I do two weekends a month, and those weekends are four one -nighters.

[1563] I do Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

[1564] Oh, you only do two a month?

[1565] Do you do every other, or do you do two in a row?

[1566] It's, well, it depends.

[1567] I work half the weekends of the year.

[1568] And you do this so that you can hang out with your kids and spend time.

[1569] Yeah, that's cool.

[1570] And when you do it, do you, like you purposely say, like, okay, I've got, you know, a bunch of bits I'm going to do in the beginning that I know are rock solid.

[1571] I get everybody rocking and then I'll slide this new stuff in there and see how it works.

[1572] I try not, I don't want to have that overly figured out either.

[1573] You know, it's like, you know, I want to, I don't want to lose that weirdness of hitting something right off the bat that I don't know if it's going to work or not.

[1574] You know, it's a temptation to go to a surefire laugh.

[1575] And I usually do.

[1576] But every once in a while, I'll say to myself, I need to go out and do something relatively new that I've never opened with and see how it flies.

[1577] Because I want to keep exercising every muscle.

[1578] You know, I mean, there's a lot of guys out there who just always open with the same thing and always close with the same thing.

[1579] And it's like, I want to keep switching that up, you know.

[1580] Well, you're also in this place where you're doing these big crowds and you do.

[1581] don't do other stuff like you're not doing a lot of television shows as far as like sitcoms or you're not doing a lot of movies you're doing a lot of these things so it's like you're constantly performing you're constantly performing you're constantly like adding to this this sort of this this this database of jokes and material you know yeah I like what you're doing man I think it's really cool because you were you were like trying to do the sitcom thing for a while like everybody else and then you just like well fuck this just do some stand -up I appreciate it you know I mean, heck, you know, you can't argue with somebody getting a sitcom and then, you know, being able to be set for life or whatever.

[1582] But I have always liked stand -up, and I always thought you needed to get a sitcom to get to the point where you could play in theaters.

[1583] Right.

[1584] So that was why I wanted a sitcom so that I could get my exposure up to then I could continue doing stand -up, but now in front of fans.

[1585] We thought that in the 90s.

[1586] Everybody thought that.

[1587] And I didn't realize, well, I kind of got there without having to do that.

[1588] You know, it's like, wow, I'm building the following just from the stand -up.

[1589] The stand -up thing just kept kind of getting bigger and bigger and bigger.

[1590] And so I was able to make that jump from comedy clubs to theaters.

[1591] And so now, you know, I'd still, I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't want to do a TV thing, but I would want it to be around my creative vision.

[1592] You know, I'm not interested in being a star.

[1593] I'm interested in my comedy being a star.

[1594] Well, that's one of the cool things about what you've been able to achieve.

[1595] Well, you do these really big places.

[1596] But you're in a reasonable celebrity mode where it's very reasonable.

[1597] I've hung out with you.

[1598] You can walk around the casinos and occasionally people will recognize you and everything like that, but it's nothing weird.

[1599] You know, you don't have to hide.

[1600] You're not getting overwhelmed.

[1601] You don't get chased and hawked.

[1602] But you're packing these giant fucking places.

[1603] Like you have these fans, there's like just hardcore group of dedicated fans.

[1604] that will come to see you because you've earned them by traveling over and over again back and forth to these same spots and packing these same places.

[1605] It's a very unique thing you've done.

[1606] It's a very bizarre situation because I don't know what the percentages are, but I truly feel like if you polled 100 Americans just at random, I swear I think 98 of them and showed them a picture of me or something like that, 98 of them would not know who I am.

[1607] Maybe 99.

[1608] Yet, I do have enough people that will want to go to these venues.

[1609] I'm not exaggerating when I say how strange it is for me to be in a theater.

[1610] Say there's 2 ,000 people there.

[1611] And I do my show.

[1612] I could go a half a mile down the street to a Burger King afterwards and walk in, and nobody in there knows who I am.

[1613] And I'm like, how do these two disparate...

[1614] things how can I be big man on campus a half a mile that way and then here nobody knows nobody knows who I am well you've done it by establishing this like really loyal fan base you it's very unique what you've done so the people that know you love you but you know maybe it's only 1 % but if you look at that 1 % if there's 350 million people that means 3 .5 million people fucking love you I'm not I'm not bothered by I like it in fact I I'm not saying that you are, but I'm saying it's very unique.

[1615] And I realize, too, that anonymity is a commodity.

[1616] You know, there are celebrities who probably might not want to be as famous as they are in terms of just being able to go out and having a meal or something like that.

[1617] And it's like, you know, I don't have that issue, man. Yeah.

[1618] So I have this career in show business with the following, and nobody knows who I am.

[1619] And you kind of...

[1620] Not many people can do that.

[1621] You kind of engineered it, too.

[1622] I mean, I remember when you first started, like, really going on the road hard, and you started moving from clubs to theaters.

[1623] It was all based on repeat customers.

[1624] It's all based on people going to see you, really loving your material, really laughing, having a great time, and then say, oh, Brian Regan's back in town.

[1625] And then boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, then it slowly started building up.

[1626] And then, you know, I'd heard, I mean, I don't know how many years ago you started, like, packing these large theaters.

[1627] But I'm like, I kept hearing like, dude, Brian Regan is just fucking killing it on the road.

[1628] The difference being that if you had a sitcom, like maybe you would get people to come see you, but you would not have nearly as much time to perform and to work on your material.

[1629] And your sets probably wouldn't be the same.

[1630] It probably, you wouldn't have the same level of competency on stage that you do now because, you know, you've been hammering that samurai sword for fucking, you know, decades now, bang, bang.

[1631] There's guys, and I don't want to name any names, but it's sad when you see a guy who, who took seven, eight years off to do a successful sitcom, and then they started doing stand -up again, and you realize they got soft, not just soft, but, you know, it's atrophy, just, ugh, waste.

[1632] They just not, not did they not get better, they got worse.

[1633] Whatever that muscle is that allows you to do comedy and hypnotize those 4 ,000 people in the theaters that you're performing in, they don't have that muscle anymore.

[1634] It's just not, it doesn't exist anymore.

[1635] It's all just sort of like slipped away from them, And there's like a ghost of what it used to be that they're trying to reestablish these embers.

[1636] They're trying to blow on and, you know, add.

[1637] That's a good analogy.

[1638] Yeah, I mean, that's really what it is.

[1639] I mean, it's, we were talked into believing that the only way to be successful as a comic was to do it the way Roseanne had done it or the way Seinfeld had done it, is take that stand up and use it to parlay it into a sitcom.

[1640] Mm -hmm.

[1641] And there's nothing wrong with that.

[1642] I mean, you know, there's nothing wrong with the, gosh, I, you know.

[1643] I applaud anybody that can get a network to want to build a show around them.

[1644] And, you know, if you can have some creative fun with it, even better and, you know, make your money for the rest of your life and all that.

[1645] You know, I don't denounce any of that.

[1646] But, you know, I like comedy as an end result.

[1647] You know, some people want to use stand -up comedy as a stepping stone to get to something beyond that that they think is better.

[1648] And I'm like, well, I don't think there's anything better.

[1649] Yeah.

[1650] I like it, you know.

[1651] Yeah, we just talked into a long time ago, like I said, especially in the 90s, we were talked into thinking that this is not it.

[1652] This is just it that gets you to something else because that's something else.

[1653] Like a lot of times is a lot of fucking money.

[1654] Like more money than you're ever making doing stand -up at the time.

[1655] Like they put you on a sitcom.

[1656] Like when I was on news radio, like all of a sudden I was on the sitcom, and that was a great experience for me. But this, it's being on a great sitcom is, even though it's a lot of money, this is not nearly as much fun as.

[1657] doing stand -up.

[1658] It just never will be.

[1659] It's just, it's not, it's also not nearly as much fun to watch.

[1660] Like, if I have to choose between going to see you doing stand -up or watching you in a sitcom, there's no comparison.

[1661] Like, and even though the stuff that you do, especially, like, you're, your act is squeaky clean.

[1662] It's one of the, you're one of the rare guys.

[1663] It's universally, like, respected as being one of the most hilarious guys out there as a stand -up by comics.

[1664] But you're squeaky clean.

[1665] Like, I could take my mom to see you and not feel.

[1666] weird.

[1667] I could take my daughter to see you and not feel weird.

[1668] Well, thank you.

[1669] I did a show somewhere and this family came backstage, including their grandmother, like this 80 -year -old woman, and she said, So how long have you been in vaudeville?

[1670] Vaudeville.

[1671] Vodville.

[1672] I'm like, what is vaudeville exactly?

[1673] I don't even know, but I'm like, well, I guess I started around 1920.

[1674] I don't know.

[1675] Vodville's one of those expressions that I never really bothered to figure out what it meant.

[1676] I don't know.

[1677] So old kind of show business thing, right?

[1678] Whether it was a singer and a comedian and a magician or something, I'm guessing.

[1679] I don't know.

[1680] Yeah, more of a variety thing.

[1681] They used to have to do that.

[1682] Yeah.

[1683] Imagine if you had to do it.

[1684] Lenny Bruce style used to be the fucking MC of the night.

[1685] I don't know if I had to start, like if I was born in 1930 or 40 and wanted to be a comedian, I don't know if I would have made it.

[1686] I got fortunate in that when I wanted to be a comedian, there was a such thing as a comedy club.

[1687] Yeah.

[1688] Where people are there to watch comedy only.

[1689] Yeah.

[1690] And open mic nights.

[1691] Right.

[1692] That's the big one.

[1693] is the open mic night's like training wheels like before open mic night's like how the fuck did you ever get on stage the first time right right that's why a lot of those guys used to do joke jokes like if you talk to like some of the old comics that it'll be honest with you about like what was going on like in the early days they would all share material you know they would all do jokes they would look like they would go to these places the people would never see them again you know and they would do a joke and then like their name would get out there that this guy is hilarious And you'd go see him, and they were, like, doing jokes.

[1694] Like, two guys walking to a bar.

[1695] Like, literally, they would do, like, street jokes.

[1696] Right.

[1697] And they would have a certain amount of them that they met.

[1698] Like, Jackie the joke man, Martling.

[1699] Perfect example.

[1700] Jackie Martling, like, literally knows every fucking joke that's every...

[1701] He has a segment that he does called Stump the Joke Man, where he's doing radio where people would call him up with a joke, and he would know how the joke goes.

[1702] Because he literally knows every joke.

[1703] Yeah, I've worked with him a number of times over the years.

[1704] And, you know, it's interesting the way he, I mean, I like that there are different people doing different things.

[1705] And he's like a joke, joke guy.

[1706] Yeah.

[1707] And he takes a lot of pride in that.

[1708] And that's fun to watch.

[1709] It's like, okay, that's what he's doing.

[1710] Yeah.

[1711] Joke jokes.

[1712] Two guys walking to a bar kind of jokes.

[1713] Yeah.

[1714] But I also like the fact that, you know, there's other people doing bizarrely or weirdly different kinds of comedy, too.

[1715] Right.

[1716] You know, that's what's so cool about comedy is there's so many different things happening under that, under that big umbrella.

[1717] You know one thing you don't see anymore?

[1718] Prop acts.

[1719] Caratop killed the propax.

[1720] There's so few prop acts.

[1721] That's weird.

[1722] When I was starting out, there was a lot of prop acts.

[1723] Like, you go to open mic night, and on an average open mic night, maybe one guy would have props.

[1724] And you don't see them anymore.

[1725] Carrotop murdered that game.

[1726] There's no more.

[1727] I like him.

[1728] When I used to work in Charlotte, he used to live there, and he would come out.

[1729] and he was always very cool and friendly.

[1730] And, you know, he was a college act at that time.

[1731] And, you know, I think he kind of knew the rap, you know, of how many people like what some people think about prop stuff.

[1732] But I don't know.

[1733] I like to feel like, hey, man, there's all different ways of doing comedy.

[1734] Sure.

[1735] You know?

[1736] Funny's funny.

[1737] Yeah, he does props great.

[1738] Yeah.

[1739] He's great at that.

[1740] And if you want to go there and, you know, just buy into that experience he's going to be holding things up and it's going to be silly and funny that's fine i think that's valid oh yeah no i'm not criticizing it at all you know i don't have any problem with what he does and by all accounts he's a very nice guy but it's it's interesting that that genre doesn't exist anymore that is interesting there's very few puppet acts these days too very few puppet acts it's like uh jeff dunham and those those those whatever characters that he has right he's kind of like nailed that down there's like a few guys like there's Terry Fador, he does those impressions.

[1741] Like, he has that Terry Fadour theater at the Mirage.

[1742] But other than those two guys, they used to be Otto and George.

[1743] Did you ever get a chance to work with Otto?

[1744] Yes.

[1745] I used to love watching Otto and George.

[1746] He's my favorite of all time when it comes to Puppet Axe, because he had a crazy rap.

[1747] Like, the Puppet would say all the fucked up shit, and then he would go, I can't believe you're saying that.

[1748] The Puppet go, fuck you.

[1749] The puppet got stabbed one.

[1750] It's a legendary story.

[1751] Some guy that he was shitting on some guy in the audience.

[1752] The guy jumped up and stabbed the puppet.

[1753] That's going to be the ultimate compliment.

[1754] If you're stabbing my puppet, I know I'm good at this.

[1755] I worked with him once and these kids were heckling.

[1756] We see your lips moving.

[1757] We see your lips moving.

[1758] Like, you're missing the point.

[1759] Of course his lips are moving.

[1760] Do you think the dummy's really fucking talking?

[1761] Why are you looking at his lips?

[1762] But, you know, people want, like, especially dumb people, they want the ventriloquist to return rightly totally.

[1763] Listen, I got news for you, you cunt.

[1764] You know, they want your mouth to be completely still.

[1765] One thing I never understood is people, remember when people say they could throw their voice?

[1766] What does that mean?

[1767] It means you're an idiot.

[1768] Where are you throwing it to?

[1769] Really?

[1770] You have the ability to have your voice coming from another place outside of your mouth.

[1771] Your Honor, he threw his voice.

[1772] It came out of the other person.

[1773] Did you throw your voice, son?

[1774] I remind you, you are under oath.

[1775] Yeah, there's no...

[1776] That's a thing that people used to think people could do.

[1777] They used to think people could throw their voice.

[1778] I think as a kid, I thought that, that I would actually try, like, on the side of my mouth.

[1779] Hey, wow, she's right.

[1780] Hey, I'm over here now.

[1781] There's probably a way.

[1782] I'm not over here.

[1783] I'm over here.

[1784] You could kind of like subtly make it seem like it's not coming from you, like maybe coming from the side of you, you blow it off the side.

[1785] Yeah, I hope there's on somebody out there who does that for a living and they feel like I'm slamming as crap.

[1786] Fuck you.

[1787] Well, you support Caritope.

[1788] You don't support me, you fuck.

[1789] Do you ever watch a good comedy hypnotist?

[1790] Yeah, yeah.

[1791] I'm not big on the hypnosis thing.

[1792] Because I, you know, I think you can be really good at that.

[1793] I just, I've, maybe this is a very, I don't know, I'm, I don't believe that the people that are doing these things are really hypnotized.

[1794] Wow.

[1795] Maybe I'm naive or, I don't know.

[1796] You need to see someone who's really good at it.

[1797] There's people, and I don't know why.

[1798] I don't know what it is.

[1799] I'm not saying there's people that no one can be hypnotize because I've never tried to be hypnotized and never sat down with a really good hypnotist and tried to be hypnotized.

[1800] I have friends that have and they swear by it and I know fighters that have done it and they say it helps their career and it helps their mindset.

[1801] But there are certain people for whatever reason that are really, really susceptible to hypnosis.

[1802] And there was a guy named Frank Santos and he used to do this show back at Stitches in Boston and he would do it every week.

[1803] Frank Santos, the R -rated hypnotist, and it was amazing.

[1804] I mean, the staff would get there, the staff of the comic club, comics would come down and watch it because it was just the most bizarre thing.

[1805] You would see these people and they really believed what he was saying.

[1806] Like there would be people that thought they were having sex, they'd be people that thought they were naked.

[1807] But how do you know that?

[1808] How do you know they believe that?

[1809] How do you know...

[1810] It's a good question.

[1811] How do you know that, you know how Halloween Isn't it fun to dress up like a vampire on Halloween because it's okay to act crazy on Halloween night?

[1812] Maybe when you're going to one of these comedy hypnosis shows, maybe you have the green light to act silly on stage.

[1813] You know, it's like, oh, wow, I can do this and no one's going to hold me accountable to acting goofy on stage.

[1814] I can say I was hypnotized.

[1815] So maybe they just enjoy being in the limelight and acting goofy.

[1816] It is possible.

[1817] But there were people that he would tell them, I'm going to say, I'm going to count to three.

[1818] And when I count the three, you're going to realize you're naked in front of all these people and you're going to be terrified.

[1819] One, two, three.

[1820] And you would see them like, they would be too good.

[1821] There were some people that were just too good at acting.

[1822] Like they would be fucking confused.

[1823] They weren't hamming it up.

[1824] They weren't going over the top.

[1825] And he would talk to them and question him.

[1826] You'd have to see it, man. Because he would also know when people weren't under.

[1827] He would know when people weren't under and removed them from the stage.

[1828] He would know they were faking it.

[1829] He would look at them.

[1830] I think there's some people that are really fucking stupid.

[1831] And they're open to suggestion.

[1832] I will say this.

[1833] I'll open the door to the possibility of hypnosis in the sense that, you know how like when you're watching a football game and all of a sudden the other team has the ball and you're like, I don't remember them punting, yet I've been staring at this TV screen for five minutes.

[1834] Obviously, my brain went somewhere.

[1835] I missed the last few plays.

[1836] So maybe in life that can happen where somebody has the power to make your brain go away for a while.

[1837] I don't know.

[1838] I used to think it was total bullshit until I watched this guy do it over and over and over again, week after week after week.

[1839] And then I became friends with him and talked to him and explained out.

[1840] He started out as a, he was hypnotizing people for like weight loss and quitting smoking and stuff along those lines.

[1841] He just knew how to do it.

[1842] He just knew how to do it.

[1843] He'd done it a long time and he knew when people were under and when they weren't under.

[1844] I just think there's some, I don't think you are, but I think there's some people that is really open a suggestion.

[1845] And I think there's also something that happens when you put them on stage.

[1846] Because I think people like, they get really weirded out.

[1847] by the fact they're on stage, the lights are on them, and it makes it maybe perhaps some people even more vulnerable.

[1848] Right.

[1849] So I understand your lack of belief in the art form.

[1850] I'm trying to be more open -minded about everything.

[1851] So I will say that it is possible.

[1852] I wish there was a good one.

[1853] I would love to have like the best come here and try it on maybe Jamie or somebody.

[1854] No, no, no. You want to see.

[1855] For the comedy shows, you want Jamie.

[1856] You want to see it live.

[1857] You really want to see it live.

[1858] I just wish there was more guys doing that.

[1859] I know his son, Frank Santos Jr. does it now in New England.

[1860] But I just wish there were more those comedy hypnotists out there.

[1861] It's not that many of them.

[1862] I did a show one time out on the road, like a fill -in date.

[1863] And they didn't tell the club.

[1864] I was filling in for a comedy hypnotist.

[1865] Oh, no. But they didn't tell the audience.

[1866] Oh, no. And I had a bad set, I get off stage, and then I see table tents on all the tables, you know, comedy hypnosis night, and people were coming up to me going, how come you didn't make us act like chickens, you know?

[1867] And I'm like, that's when I found out, you thought I was a comedy hypnotist.

[1868] I did an hour of total confusion for this audience.

[1869] So they're waiting to be hypnotized?

[1870] That's what they thought the show was.

[1871] Oh, that's hilarious.

[1872] So you're eating dick up there talking about socks and...

[1873] Right, and they're just waiting, when is he going to start bringing us on stage?

[1874] Yeah, they're just waiting.

[1875] It's like you're warming them up.

[1876] Yeah, this is a big buildup for the comedy hypnosis thing, and then I say good night, and they were like, what the hell happened here?

[1877] You can just say you don't remember, because I hypnotized.

[1878] I hypnotized you.

[1879] You were all up here.

[1880] And you're pregnant.

[1881] You were all up here, and you were all feeling like you were naked.

[1882] Good night.

[1883] How weird.

[1884] What's the worst gig you ever had to do?

[1885] Do you have a worst?

[1886] I had one show where I walked almost the entire audience.

[1887] I filled in for a comedian.

[1888] He called me up and said, you know Adam Leslie?

[1889] No. Adam Leslie, he's no longer with us.

[1890] But he had a headline gig at a place called the Comedy Barn in Jackson, Mississippi, I think, was the town.

[1891] Down in the South, he goes, I can't do the date.

[1892] Would you fill in in headline for me?

[1893] I was very new to headlining, so I said, sure, and somehow the club was okay with him bringing somebody else instead of him.

[1894] So I get on stage on a Friday night and just did not get my foot in the door and just flatlining.

[1895] You know how it is.

[1896] There's a point where you know this is over.

[1897] This ain't happening.

[1898] Yeah.

[1899] And I was at that point.

[1900] No savers were working.

[1901] and nothing was working.

[1902] And then a foursome at the front got up, like, you know, when I had like 30 minutes left and just, you know, put their coats on.

[1903] I mean, how insulting.

[1904] Put their jackets and stuff on and just walked away.

[1905] So I'm thinking, well, maybe, you know, they have the babysitter or something.

[1906] And then another foursome and then a twosome.

[1907] And then everybody just thought, well, I guess it's okay to leave.

[1908] And everybody just got up and walked out.

[1909] had 20 people left when I was done.

[1910] It was the most humiliating, one of the most humiliating nights of my career.

[1911] How long ago was this?

[1912] It was last week.

[1913] Adam Leslie died after he got the phone call from the Booker.

[1914] The Booker killed him.

[1915] Do you fucking know why Brian Reagan did to my club?

[1916] He murdered Adam Leslie.

[1917] We lost all our money.

[1918] We're losing our mortgage now.

[1919] This was, gosh, 25 years ago, I don't know.

[1920] Those moments when you're fucking tail spinning.

[1921] Those were some of the most painful and confusing moments in a comics career.

[1922] But in my opinion, those are, like, really important.

[1923] Because all the big growth moments of my early career came after I bombed.

[1924] Bombed and then said, okay, I never want to fucking experience that again.

[1925] I got to figure out, what did I do wrong?

[1926] Like, what did I open with?

[1927] It sucked.

[1928] Did I not get them right off the bat?

[1929] Was I not loose enough?

[1930] Was I not comfortable enough?

[1931] Was I not having enough fun?

[1932] Like, what the hell was it?

[1933] What, was I too cocky?

[1934] Was I too meek?

[1935] Like, what are the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, numbers you know do you sometimes think it's the audience completely the audience like just you know that it's Friday night 10 o 'clock show these people are all just in that kind of a the audience can play a part in whether or not you have a good set or a great set but the audience cannot play a part if you are if you are really unless it's just the worst fucking horrendous group of fucking convicts out on parole all on meth it is possible but a lot of times you'll have a bad audience but you can still get them and you'll have a good set you can still have a good set sometimes you just go out there and it's magic sometimes you go out there and you just feel so loose and the audience is so ready right off the bat that everything is just flowing and amazing like that was this weekend in portland i did helium the comedy club i'm trying to work on some new material and tighten things up so i like to go to comedy clubs when i do that i like to do a whole weekend at a comedy club you're doing those two shows on friday two shows on saturday and it was just so fun it had been sold out for months it was like all this energy in the air and everything was great but then i did the comedy store like two wednesdays ago oh it was just like there was like no energy in the room right marron was on before me he was saying the same like he got off stage you i think he even said something like you guys uh you were there you know like i think he said that like saying good night it just there was a weird lack of it was almost like one of these cross -armed audiences where they're like they're not going to put out too much energy it's a wednesday night 9 to 10 .30.

[1936] There's not much there.

[1937] But you still get them?

[1938] Like, I had a good set.

[1939] It was still good.

[1940] Still went, you know, all the stuff that's funny got laughs.

[1941] I always felt like my job was to be one better than the audience.

[1942] You know, there are many comedians can do as well as the audience.

[1943] If it's a great crowd, they do great.

[1944] If it's a good crowd, they do good.

[1945] If it's a bad crowd, they do bad.

[1946] I always wanted to be one, like, I wanted to be where, like, if they were bad, I would do so -so.

[1947] If they were so -so, I would do good.

[1948] If they were good, I would do great.

[1949] And if they were great, I would do great.

[1950] That's a beautiful philosophy.

[1951] So I just wanted to one -up.

[1952] You know what I mean?

[1953] Like, it was my job to bring them to one higher level of what their situation was.

[1954] I was at the improv one night, and it was a late show.

[1955] It was like a 10 p .m. show on a Friday, and the crowd was kind of tired.

[1956] And Brody Stevens went on, and he was on, like, last.

[1957] And he took his shirt off.

[1958] and started running through the crowd.

[1959] He made them play music.

[1960] He took a shirt off, started running through the crowd, and he was taking a shirt and spinning it over his head, like a helicopter.

[1961] He's like, we have energy in here.

[1962] We're alive.

[1963] This is happening.

[1964] This is real.

[1965] We're in Hollywood.

[1966] And he starts, like, clapping and putting his arms together and getting everybody to clap along.

[1967] And he transformed the entire room.

[1968] And he went on stage, transformed the...

[1969] I mean, there's a video on my Instagram, page of brodie it's late night pull it up the late night video of him drumming he does these closer spots at the uh at the comedy store where you know the show starts the main room show starts at nine o 'clock and it goes on till two o 'clock in the morning and there's a point of no return there's a no man's land time somewhere after like 1130 where the audience is like okay let's just get the fuck out of here like a lot of people leave so it was packed and then when brodie goes on there's like maybe 25 or 30 people So this is This is Brody on stage Playing drums Check this out Can we hear this through our headphones He's fucking playing drums I mean it doesn't even make any sense He's got a guy next to him He's playing in the band The guy and the middle -aged guy back there The guy to his left That you can't see He's got thimbles What is there those things About cymbal?

[1970] Symbols right With a tambourine He gave him a fuck tambourine the guy's got a tambourine and he gave it to the guy goes you back me up you've got the tambourine I mean I watched him for an hour and he went from that to doing stand -up where he's talking to the crowd he there was points in times where you see there's photos where you can see him walking around the crowd he put the microphone down and started doing stand -up just walking around just walking around.

[1971] Friday night's a Kinnison spot in the main room is usually when Brody just does an hour he starts off the drums, he walks around, it's great, it's a great...

[1972] There's two guys that nail that spot.

[1973] Brian Holtzman and Brody Stevens because they're both just free -form maniacs.

[1974] They just can just free ball.

[1975] And Brody especially because he does so many warm -ups.

[1976] He warms up for like sitcoms and talk shows and he's really good at it.

[1977] So they have him coming.

[1978] We had him do it when I did the Man Show.

[1979] He was amazing.

[1980] at it just creating comedy out of nowhere he just goes in there starts talking to people the next thing you know i couldn't do that i i don't have that ability i don't have that ability at all i i've seen a couple of sitcom tapings and watched comedians that have to warm up that that is a skill that is an amazing skill and i could not accomplish it it's an act it's a different kind of act it's just like another facet of stand -up comedy i wouldn't say it's my favorite facet but i don't The thing about Brody is that facet, even though I don't necessarily like watching warm -ups that much, Brody has turned that into like a proving, not a proving ground, but like a training ground for him.

[1981] Like he's so comfortable just free -balling about anything and everything, and he knows how to like hit it and turn it into comedy.

[1982] He's a very unusual talent, Brody Stevens, and he's really good at that, that late -night spot.

[1983] Since I've been back at the comedy store, I've seen him do four.

[1984] or five, those late -night spots.

[1985] I just waited around, waited so I could watch Brody.

[1986] Michael Keaton was there last night, by the way.

[1987] Was he really?

[1988] Watching their Kimberly Condom win the roast battle.

[1989] Academy Award winner, Michael Keaton.

[1990] That movie won the Academy Award.

[1991] Did you see it?

[1992] I heard it sucks.

[1993] It's the worst movie.

[1994] I watched it three times.

[1995] Are you guys joking?

[1996] Jamie liked it.

[1997] You liked it?

[1998] Jamie liked it.

[1999] I haven't seen it, but I hear it's true.

[2000] I've heard quite a few people say it's good.

[2001] I'm going to have to watch it eventually.

[2002] What's bothering me is there's all the, there's this video.

[2003] going around of Michael Keaton putting what some people are speculating as an acceptance speech for best actor back into his pocket.

[2004] And the vibe is how embarrassing is that?

[2005] Why is that embarrassing?

[2006] You know, the guy was up for the best actor at a point in his career where, you know, it's been a while since he's done anything.

[2007] I hate this negativity, you know, to take that moment and just blow that up as something that he should be ashamed of or embarrassed.

[2008] So what?

[2009] He had an acceptance speech.

[2010] He was up for the Academy Award.

[2011] Didn't I see you bomb on Arsenio?

[2012] Was that you?

[2013] Hey, how's your career?

[2014] Tough business.

[2015] You know, there's just, I don't know, there's too much, there's too much.

[2016] Unhappy people in this world that have a voice.

[2017] Like, I don't like the slamming people's dresses and all that stuff.

[2018] You know, it's like they've been working their ass off for their career to finally get a role where they're getting a little, they're getting some attention and they get to go to this big fun Academy Ward and they put everything they can into and putting this dress on and then some guy or woman just gets to go I think it looks ugly.

[2019] Do you know why that exists though?

[2020] Because of people like Kanye West.

[2021] Because people their egos are so blown out of proportion you want to shoot them down.

[2022] They're so goofy.

[2023] So then you start looking at other people.

[2024] It's fun shooting him down.

[2025] Let me look around see who else is fucking flossing that I don't like and you start looking for them.

[2026] It's like we don't like people that think they're better than everybody else.

[2027] And when someone thinks they're better than everybody else, they are a justifiable target.

[2028] So then it becomes like a genre, like picking on people that are celebrities.

[2029] It becomes like a thing.

[2030] So then you start looking for all these other people that are successful.

[2031] And like, look at Michael Keith stupid fucking, yeah, Batman.

[2032] Oh, I'm sorry, you're not Batman anymore.

[2033] This fucking movie won the Academy Award, you cunt.

[2034] But that's death people.

[2035] There's a lot of really unbalanced, unhappy people.

[2036] And because of the internet and people making comments, unfortunately, it's like honking a car, You can do it in the safety of your car because you know it's unlikely that that guy is going to come over and actually have a physical confrontation.

[2037] I think comments to me are horn honkers.

[2038] They're just people honking.

[2039] They're sitting in their underwear at home, and they're just going to honk their little horn.

[2040] They're going to throw their little negativity out there.

[2041] I don't know what they get out of it, though.

[2042] Psychologically, what do you get out of just typing some mean -spirited bull crap?

[2043] I don't get it.

[2044] They don't get anything out of it, but they're not balanced people.

[2045] They're not thinking about what they get out of it.

[2046] They're not looking at their life objectively.

[2047] Like, what is the effort to reward ratio to what I'm accomplishing here, or am I accomplishing anything?

[2048] No, they just, what about me, Michael Keaton, a stupid fucking award speech?

[2049] You know, they go back to their shit -back job on Monday morning, some place that they hate where nobody likes them.

[2050] They go, see Michael Keaton?

[2051] How embarrassing?

[2052] Put this thing back in his pocket.

[2053] What a fucking little bit?

[2054] That's the world we live in.

[2055] And it's also the world where people have a voice that never had a voice before.

[2056] You used to have to earn your voice.

[2057] You know, if you were a great writer or a great critic, you were respected by all these people that went and they sought out your opinions on things.

[2058] And so when they read your opinion on something, it was like, oh, well, this guy is a very thoughtful, well -measured person.

[2059] And his opinion on blank will be interesting to read.

[2060] But now everybody gets to put their opinion off there.

[2061] Everybody can have an opinion about everything.

[2062] I think I like it, though.

[2063] I like it because I think it's ultimately balancing.

[2064] And I think that the cult of personality that comes along with celebrity, I think, is ridiculous.

[2065] And I think this chips it down.

[2066] It brings it back down.

[2067] Look, this is a weird time that we live in.

[2068] This is a time where someone can hack in a Jennifer Lawrence's phone and find pictures of her asshole and then put those on the internet.

[2069] That never existed before.

[2070] Well, listen, I do understand that, you know, it's a different thing.

[2071] And yes, now any Joe Blow can have a comment.

[2072] I'm cool with that, but I think there should be accountability.

[2073] I hate these trolls that hide behind fake names, and they're negative, and they're not...

[2074] If you want to be negative or positive, you should own who you are.

[2075] It should be you that should be held accountable.

[2076] The person that you're slamming should be able to confront you.

[2077] I think there...

[2078] Well, I don't know about that.

[2079] Do you really want to confront everybody?

[2080] If you're a person that's in the public eye, do you really want to confront all those different people that can talk to you?

[2081] You'll waste your entire life dealing with that person.

[2082] I don't know.

[2083] I'm not saying that you need to confront people who are being negative, but I'm saying that the person who wants to be negative out there, it should be that person's name.

[2084] Own your negativity.

[2085] Well, there's a little bit of that that's happening.

[2086] I mean, that's a Facebook thing.

[2087] You know, in Facebook, it's very difficult to have a fake name.

[2088] But I think that ultimately where this is leading is going to be this dissolving of all the boundaries between people.

[2089] People can reach you.

[2090] They can contact Brian Riegel where they never could before.

[2091] people can reach someone and make fun of their celebrity speech their acceptance speech people can do things they can get closer to you than they've ever been able to do so before and i think ultimately the good thing about that is things like podcasts um and things like that they couldn't have existed before they they they take down this like boundary between people expressing themselves and that expression being reached by other people you know if someone has really funny tweets they're really funny twitter person that those really funny tweets can get spread around and all of a sudden they have a hundred thousand followers there's a lot of people like that they're just regular folks at regular jobs but they're really funny and so this this this just by quality just by people their their ideas resonating with people they have a vehicle that never existed before so it doesn't always have to be negative i think it's just so many people are disenchanted and they just don't like life and they're just depressed and they don't like their existence and so they're looking to like shit on people and spread negativity as much as possible.

[2092] But what it shows is just that this vehicle exists.

[2093] And it doesn't just exist for that.

[2094] It exists for positivity, too.

[2095] And it's just, it's just people aren't aware.

[2096] This is a new thing man. This is something that we're navigating for the first time in human history.

[2097] And this has never existed before.

[2098] The ability to leave a YouTube comment, the ability to have a fake Twitter handle that's just an egg that they can shit all over Brian Regan after a show.

[2099] Yeah, you don't say hypnotizing?

[2100] is real, you ass hole.

[2101] How do you think I lost fucking 50 pounds of Westmugging?

[2102] I mean, that's just, that's, it's a symptom of this new age that we live in, that this stage where technology as it's advancing, it's advanced to this completely new realm that never existed before, where the ability to communicate with people is unprecedented.

[2103] The ability to reach people is unprecedented, and we're navigating it.

[2104] We don't know, we don't know how to manage it yet.

[2105] And there's a lot of people that You know, they're not thinking about what the impact of their words are.

[2106] They're just being idiots.

[2107] And they're, you know, they're not that thoughtful.

[2108] They're not really considering it.

[2109] This is a part of the weird world that we're living in, the world of connectivity.

[2110] And it's going to get crazier and crazier.

[2111] This is just one step.

[2112] This is just one step.

[2113] There's going to be a time in the future where I believe we're going to be able to communicate, not just with words on a screen, but with someone, people are going to be able to express feelings to you.

[2114] You're going to be able to expect emotions to you without even knowing you, without being around you.

[2115] Things are going to get real weird over the next few years.

[2116] Real weird.

[2117] They're not going to slow down.

[2118] They're going to speed up.

[2119] We're not going to move to log cabins and start chopping our own firewood.

[2120] It's going to get weirder and weirder.

[2121] Good night, everybody.

[2122] Brian Regan, ladies and gentlemen.

[2123] Brian Regan Comic on Twitter.

[2124] Where's your show this weekend?

[2125] I'm at the Dolby Theater in L .A. this Saturday night.

[2126] What time is this show?

[2127] 8 p .m. That's the same time as the UFC.

[2128] There's a UFC in LA at the Staples Center.

[2129] Well, I'm not saying this, man. I mean, people are going to see you.

[2130] They could DVR the UFC.

[2131] Yeah.

[2132] Brought up the UFC.

[2133] Either way.

[2134] The Dolby Theater, ladies and gentlemen, that's the place to be on Saturday night.

[2135] Fuck the UFC.

[2136] I said it.

[2137] I worked for them.

[2138] I'll be there.

[2139] Dolby Theater Saturday Night on Twitter.

[2140] Brian Regan Comic, do you talk to people on Twitter?

[2141] Do you interact with the folks?

[2142] from your conversation I might need to adjust my way of doing it right now it's been it's been kind of one -sided I don't tweet a lot but it's just me tweeting out but you don't usually like read the tweets and then respond no no I probably smarter it's probably smart way to do it my way's probably ridiculous no I just tweet out and then and then go make a milkshake here's what's important you're fucking hilarious you're a great guy it's always a pleasure to hang out with you always a pleasure to have you on the podcast Very kind.

[2143] Never seen Brian Regan live.

[2144] Please go check him out.

[2145] He's fucking absolutely one of the best in the country.

[2146] You're very nice.

[2147] Thank you so much, too.

[2148] Brian Regan, ladies and gentlemen, Dolby Theater, Los Angeles, California, Saturday night.

[2149] Be there.

[2150] Good night.

[2151] See you.