MFM Minisode 277

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[1] Hello and welcome.

[2] So my favorite murder.

[3] This is the minisode.

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[11] Oh, yeah.

[12] Yeah, I can go.

[13] Do it.

[14] Okay.

[15] This is called That Was a Dumb Decision, a College Memoir.

[16] Oh, hell yeah.

[17] Hi, ladies.

[18] I've recently realized my storytelling skills are below average since my toddler tells me to stop talking 30 seconds in.

[19] But we will give this a go.

[20] Picky, picky.

[21] Okay, so I know, man, toddlers these days.

[22] Okay, so while in college, I lived on my own in a cute little duplex.

[23] It was a warm day, and I decided to write one of my papers outside on my laptop.

[24] As I'm typing, I notice a lady walking along the fence in my neighbor's yard looking at me. Thinking it was said neighbor, I waved.

[25] The woman then asked me, do you have a phone I could use.

[26] Clearly confused, I said, what?

[27] She then proceeded to slip between the wire fence towards me and immediately began telling me how her and her boyfriend had gotten a fight.

[28] The woman was distraught and shaking, and she had a bag of clothes and blood on her arms and wrists.

[29] I told her I was calling the police, but she said she'd already did, and that she had to get away from him.

[30] I handed her my phone to make a call, but no one answered.

[31] The woman then asked me if I could get her some water.

[32] I noticed she was sweating and could now tell that she had been running.

[33] I went inside my house leaving my screen door shut, but the main door opened.

[34] When I turned around from my refrigerator, she was standing inside my house.

[35] As I'm handing her the water, she asked if she could use the bathroom to wash off her arms.

[36] I pointed her in the direction and immediately armed myself with my expired pepper spray once the bathroom door was closed, just in case.

[37] I wonder what expired pepper spray is.

[38] It hurts even more, I would think.

[39] It just lightly seasons your eyes.

[40] I waited for her to return and then led her back out of my house.

[41] Unsure of what to do, I asked if she wanted to call anyone again.

[42] She did, no answer.

[43] The woman starts getting very nervous and starts crying about how he's going to find her walking along the road.

[44] She asked if I would consider dropping her off at a friend's house that was right up the street.

[45] Guilted and feeling sorry for her, I did.

[46] During the drive, she was ducked down in the passenger seat, wearing a cap low down to her eyes, and she told me to let her know if I saw an old red pickup truck because that was him.

[47] We arrived to her friend's house.

[48] She got out of the car and thanked me over and over again, and that was the end of it.

[49] Or so I thought.

[50] The next day, uh -huh, I went to class and I'm walking in with my group of friends when one of them said, Julie, don't you live behind that hospital?

[51] Did you see the alert about the inmate who escaped from there while they were checking on her baby?

[52] All caps.

[53] Yep, you guessed it.

[54] I gave the lady who escaped a ride.

[55] I asked her to show me the article, and sure enough, it was her.

[56] After having a full -on panic attack about how naive I was, I called the cops where I had to give a written statement and tell them where I dropped her off at.

[57] I also received a stern lecture about not giving strangers rides.

[58] Also, yes, they found her, and yes, this event happened before I listened to your podcast.

[59] Stay sexy and don't talk to strangers.

[60] Andrews, Julie.

[61] Oh, Julie.

[62] Mm -hmm.

[63] I would have done that if that was a person that I was dealing with and they were under threat like that with.

[64] I think the blood is the kicker.

[65] Yeah, I believed everything up until that point, you know?

[66] Like, yeah, help her get away.

[67] Yes.

[68] Do it you can.

[69] You're a good Samaritan until you're actually not.

[70] Until you're aiding and abetting.

[71] That's right.

[72] Oh, my.

[73] Well, also that just made me. me thinking, I know I've told the story multiple times on the show, so I won't go that far into it.

[74] But the time when I was taking diet pills slash straight up speed, so I would just kind of weirdly, like, walk around my house and smoke and watch black and white movies and talk on the phone.

[75] I was like a human phone tree.

[76] And I heard, I went back to put laundry in my roommate Dave's room, and I heard a noise outside.

[77] And I opened, it was like those old -fashioned flat windows.

[78] Oh, yeah.

[79] And I pull it open and there was the runaway drinking out of the hose.

[80] Oh, my God.

[81] I don't remember this.

[82] And she, oh, fuck.

[83] It was so scary.

[84] And I was by myself.

[85] Were you on the ground floor?

[86] Yes, it was like, it was the house.

[87] So she was right there.

[88] Right up the street from Yerenvince's old apartment.

[89] And so it was a regular house that you could walk into the backyard from the street.

[90] And she did and was drinking out of the hose.

[91] And so when I opened the window, she looked up at me and then ran.

[92] And I went out the back door and I was like, hey, hey, come back here.

[93] It's okay.

[94] Yeah.

[95] And she.

[96] did, she was like, please drive me out of the city, please drive me. And it was so upsetting.

[97] And basically, she had been like, she was getting jumped into a gang or something really fucked up.

[98] And I was like, there could be people waiting where this is just, I make the wrong move in this moment.

[99] And you're involved.

[100] Yes.

[101] So I had to come around to the front, sit on, there was like a front porch with a kind of alcove.

[102] Yeah.

[103] So I was like, sit here with your back to the thing.

[104] So no one can see you.

[105] and let me go make a phone call and stay here.

[106] Or you can make a phone call with my phone or whatever.

[107] And we ended up calling the Covenant House and they came to pick her up.

[108] I love Covenant House.

[109] That place is amazing.

[110] Yes.

[111] And that was because I had just seen a commercial where they had the phone number on the TV.

[112] That was the only reason I knew to call them.

[113] But I was like, this is a very young girl who shouldn't, like, who, I don't know if she can get far away enough to deal with this.

[114] I mean, that place is amazing.

[115] I had a tour of it once because I did like an event there.

[116] I went to an event there.

[117] And it's just the things they do for at -risk youth is incredible.

[118] But good for you, Karen.

[119] Thank you.

[120] Quick thinking.

[121] Thanks so much.

[122] The PSA was the only reason I knew it existed.

[123] Oh, wow.

[124] But then also I was like, you don't want to get involved.

[125] Now you're the person that whoever's chasing her.

[126] Now you're in the chase too.

[127] Like, let's end the chase here.

[128] Good for you.

[129] And get the authorities involved.

[130] It was crazy.

[131] And then my friend, it was the day before I think it was like some huge party we were about to have.

[132] Yeah.

[133] So my friend Pat Buckles was going to come and drop something off like, you know, one of those huge buckets you put it Kagan or something.

[134] She was coming over to drop off like party supplies and she sees the Covenant House van and all these people and the girl walk out.

[135] And she like walks up with these huge eyes like, I think you have a story to tell me. And I was like, oh, yeah, get in here.

[136] Holy shit.

[137] I don't.

[138] I feel like you've never told me that before.

[139] That's wild.

[140] It was really scary because everything was so surreal.

[141] It was just that mid -90s like...

[142] And suddenly you're in it.

[143] Like there's no being like by and go back in your house and pretend it's not happening.

[144] No. And also I have to judge, am I safe right now?

[145] Is this person going to, like what's happening here?

[146] Totally.

[147] Yeah.

[148] Good for you.

[149] Thanks for...

[150] Just let me give...

[151] Just do a little brag real quick.

[152] Okay.

[153] Here's my first email.

[154] The subject line is, everyone needs a grandparent story with a hometown robbery.

[155] So it just starts.

[156] My Brooklyn, New York -raised grandmother was a bank teller in our hometown of Bucks County, Pennsylvania.

[157] The local bank that she worked at was very secluded.

[158] Behind the bank was a field and nothing much on either side.

[159] So it was quite the target for bank robberies.

[160] On a cold Friday morning, she left her station to get a cup of coffee.

[161] While she was there, two men in masks and hood.

[162] came into the bank guns drawn.

[163] My grandma peaked in from the break room, saw what was going on, and got the hell out of there.

[164] Fucking love that so much.

[165] Later days.

[166] You don't have to hang out at a bank robbery, just because you're on the payroll.

[167] There's no camaraderie in bank robberies.

[168] No, no. Every man for himself, every grandma for themselves.

[169] Out the back door, she went looking for help once outside, realized that there was absolutely nowhere to go.

[170] She tried to get into a few cars to hide, found one, and then slumped in the passenger seat.

[171] While she was hiding, the bank robber started their escape while kidnapping the bank manager at gunpoint.

[172] Holy shit.

[173] What's the getaway car, you ask?

[174] The exact car my grandma's hiding in.

[175] Oh, no. No. To know my 4 -11 spunky grandma is to know that she loves her jewels.

[176] She has gold diamond rings on every finger, gold chains, earrings, you name it.

[177] Grandma's love jewelry.

[178] They fucking love it.

[179] They do.

[180] While in hiding, she now realizes this might be problematic and tries to hide her hands in her sleeves.

[181] The robbers now see my grandma in the car and they point the gun at her head.

[182] My grandma could only think that she wasn't going to live to see my ninth birthday, which was two days from this incident.

[183] They told her to get out of the car and that she wouldn't get hurt.

[184] They let my grandma go, but took the bank manager with them.

[185] Thankfully, they let her out a few miles away once they realized there was no dye packs in the stolen money.

[186] My grandmother was terrified to go back into the bank because she didn't know if her co -workers were alive or dead.

[187] A man pulled into the bank not knowing what had just gone down, and my grandma made him go into the bank with her to check on everyone.

[188] The poor guy who was just stopping in for penny wrappers had to stay for the rest of the day to answer police questions.

[189] Just got to run a quick errand and then I'll be home for the rest of the afternoon.

[190] It'll be fine.

[191] Nope.

[192] You have to come and testify about a crime you were not there for.

[193] Oh my God.

[194] Fast forward.

[195] to March of 2020.

[196] The world was on the verge of a pandemic.

[197] My grandma was giving every ounce of herself to caring for my grandfather who was losing his battle with cancer.

[198] After 55 and a half years of marriage, Papa passed away.

[199] While this was happening, I was realizing that my marriage of only three months wasn't turning out the way I'd hoped.

[200] When my now ex -husband started to become verbally abusive, I packed up my dog, left and asked grandma if we could live with her.

[201] Without hesitation, she said yes.

[202] The two of us were simultaneously going through the worst periods of our lives, but but we had each other.

[203] Now fully in quarantine and trying to find a bright spot, we made Thursday nights martini night at home.

[204] Grandma's!

[205] I fucking love this.

[206] Because grandparents know how to get through shit and that's with spirits.

[207] Liquor.

[208] Dark and light.

[209] That's right.

[210] My grandparents previously frequented the local watering hole on Thursdays so in honor of Papa, we made it something to look forward to each week.

[211] I'm a fabulous bartender and grandma was happy to oblige my skills.

[212] And then in parentheses, it says, what else did we have to do?

[213] It was a fucking pandemic.

[214] Two years later, we're still roommates and my grandma may love my dog more than me. I cannot help but think that if things had gone differently all those years ago, I wouldn't know my grandma the way I do after the countless martinis we've shared together.

[215] Stay sexy.

[216] And as grandma would say, everything happens for a reason, Corinne.

[217] Oh, my God.

[218] Isn't it the best?

[219] I'm thinking of my grandmas.

[220] And that would, that would totally happen.

[221] with them.

[222] Yeah, totally.

[223] Oh, my God.

[224] Isn't it funny, though, that she's like, she tries to make an escape and ends up putting herself directly in the line of fire.

[225] It's like, that, that went poorly.

[226] Of all the cars.

[227] Of all the cars.

[228] And of course it's unlocked.

[229] Yeah.

[230] Oh, my God.

[231] That was it beautiful.

[232] Also, why don't they, what shitty bank robbers, there's no getaway driver?

[233] Like, you just went and parked?

[234] What the fuck?

[235] Open the car, turn it on.

[236] Yeah.

[237] Small potatoes.

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[258] Goodbye.

[259] This one's called the Christmas gift that keeps on giving.

[260] Just starts.

[261] Ladies!

[262] You asked for hometowns involving weird and wonderful holiday gifts at some point in our lives.

[263] We did, yeah.

[264] So I had to share this.

[265] gem with you.

[266] My dad's side of the family always did a white elephant style gift exchange at Christmas every year and many people would contribute gifts that were just this side of inappropriate or off color.

[267] Well, it was the early 90s and an urban outfitters had just opened in our town.

[268] While shopping there with my mom one day, she was delighted to find penis pasta.

[269] That's right, pasta shaped like dicks.

[270] Yeah, we know what penis pasta is.

[271] What else could it be?

[272] Disgusting.

[273] I was probably eight or nine.

[274] I was just mortified that my mom was standing there in public cackling at this box of X -rated macaroni.

[275] She bought it with the idea that it would be her contribution to the gift exchange that year.

[276] Everyone in the family got a kick out of it, and lo and behold, the next year, someone re -gifted it in the exchange and a tradition was born.

[277] Yes.

[278] The annual penis pasta present.

[279] This is a fun family.

[280] After about eight years of this, my mom was once again the recipient of said pasta and decided she'd had enough of the long -running joke.

[281] One day, my very prude, very Christian, homeschooled neighbor friend came over to hang out.

[282] As we opened the door before my mom could see who it was, she shouted from the kitchen, Hope you're hungry for some penis pasta.

[283] Yes, she decided it was simply time to cook and eat this erotic pantry item.

[284] We didn't let anything go to waste in our house.

[285] I wanted to die.

[286] My friend looked absolutely horrified and needless to say, we didn't hang out too much after that.

[287] Stay sexy and don't cook naughty food, A. It's like exactly what Christian people think that the heathens down the street are doing.

[288] That's so true.

[289] Playing right into that.

[290] Oh, my God.

[291] That would have been great if she had like invited her for dinner and she had to sit in front of a bowl of penis pasta and be like, I'm not hungry.

[292] Eat it.

[293] No, eat it.

[294] Eat it.

[295] You're going to hell.

[296] How old, like, how long does dry pasta last?

[297] Not eight years, I can imagine.

[298] Eight years.

[299] That is stale pasta, stale penis pasta.

[300] And also, I think novelty pastas, I don't think they're being made for deliciousness in the first place.

[301] No. There's no Italian grandma's recipe.

[302] Ovening of penis pasta.

[303] So crazy.

[304] Okay.

[305] This one's kind of amazing, but also illegal.

[306] So we're not endorsing it and we're not saying this is right.

[307] We're just reading where our listeners send us.

[308] Yeah.

[309] That's the agreement.

[310] Yeah.

[311] Hi, I'm FMCrew.

[312] I've been getting caught up on your whole catalog the past few months and have been debating back and forth on what to send in for a hometown.

[313] I've worked with someone who arrested Stephen Avery, went to school with a son of a convicted killer, and my grandpa should probably be in prison for arson.

[314] an insurance fraud.

[315] And then in parentheses, it says, Yay, therapy.

[316] So true.

[317] This deck is loaded.

[318] I finally decided to tell you about my awesome mom and the time she saved us from her abusive asshole husband.

[319] And then cue the Dixie Chick's song, Earle's got to die.

[320] My mom had me at 17, and since it was the 80s, decided to marry a friend of a friend who was just getting out of prison.

[321] She was 20 at the time.

[322] And then in parentheses, it says, Drugs, am I right?

[323] Unsurprisingly, the relationship quickly turned abusive once he was out of prison and moved in with us.

[324] I was in pre -K, so no more than three or four years old, but I remember them fighting, and even then I could tell it was bad.

[325] My mom, who undoubtedly was just trying to find love and stability for herself and me, when she married the guy, decided she was done for good when she'd caught him cheating.

[326] You see, assholes still had regular pee tests as a condition of his parole.

[327] So one morning, as he was getting ready to head to his P .O .'s office, my mom slipped a hit of speed into his coffee.

[328] He peed hot and went back to jail, and she got an annulment.

[329] Holy fuck.

[330] Right.

[331] My mom got remarried again when I was nine, and he adopted me. I gained a father and a sister and a little girl's happily ever after.

[332] My dad was truly the best man I've ever known, and after 22 years of marriage to my mother, he passed.

[333] passed away in 2015 from cancer.

[334] It's not been an easy life for my mom and I, but her determination to give me a better life than what she had has paid off.

[335] And I'm a fierce and proud woman raising my own daughter to be even more fiercely feminist.

[336] Stay sexy ladies and don't be afraid to spike your abuser's coffee and get his ass thrown back into the clank, love C. Oh, my God.

[337] Look, listen.

[338] Like, you don't know what other people are going through, you know?

[339] Also, here's the thing.

[340] If you think that's unjust to the man, don't hit people.

[341] Yeah.

[342] Maybe don't hit people.

[343] He wouldn't have gone to prison for beating her.

[344] But he, you know what I mean?

[345] That's right.

[346] Which is horrible.

[347] Also, he was beating her in front of her toddler.

[348] Right.

[349] This is not a person.

[350] Right.

[351] I mean, anyway.

[352] Not for me to judge.

[353] Just a story I'm reading.

[354] Amazing.

[355] Amazing.

[356] These are some heavy hitters this week.

[357] Yeah, they are.

[358] Okay, this one's called Lethargic Baby Who Doesn't Know Anything About Anything Saves the Day.

[359] I already love it.

[360] Hi, MFM Crew and Fur Children.

[361] You asked for stories about badass parents who saved the day, so I thought you might like a story about a badass baby who saved the day.

[362] A couple of years ago, I was eating dinner with my parents and my boyfriend.

[363] When out of the blue, my dad turned to my boyfriend and asked, Do you want to hear a story about how he saved his mom's life when he was a baby?

[364] I was like, what?

[365] This is the first time my parents met my boyfriend, a total stranger to them.

[366] And this was the first time I was hearing this story after 40 -plus years of life.

[367] Thanks.

[368] My parents and I came to the U .S. as refugees from Vietnam in 1975 when I was 15 months old.

[369] My father was in the South Vietnamese Air Force, and the city of Saigon was about to fall.

[370] My dad evacuated my mom, me, and my aunts to a local air base as there were but bunkers there and heavy bombing and shelling was about to begin.

[371] The plan was to fly out of the country to Thailand and then to Guam.

[372] However, because of the heavy constant shelling, my mom and my aunts were trapped in the bunker for a while as it was unsafe to leave the bunker with bombs being dropped everywhere.

[373] Also, I was very sick at the time.

[374] I was throwing up constantly and crying.

[375] My mom and my aunts were told that we'd be taking off as soon as the bombing seemed to be easing off.

[376] Finally, the bombing stopped.

[377] My mom prepared to run outside to retrieve our laundry from the clothesline.

[378] And she handed my sick, useless baby self to my aunt.

[379] Right as my mom reached the door, I began to vomit.

[380] I began projectile vomiting everywhere like a fucked up baby Yoda.

[381] My aunt started screaming and my mom turned around right as a bomb fell directly on the clothesline.

[382] Had I not vomited at that moment, my mom would have been.

[383] standing directly where the bomb had fell, which destroyed everything.

[384] We were later able to board the plane and flee to Thailand and eventually to the U .S. I have vomited many times since under many different circumstances and situations and due to many, many, many different reasons.

[385] But I don't think my vomit has saved anyone's life again.

[386] We'll see.

[387] Stay sexy, support all refugees, and no more fucking war.

[388] And then it's like Bobo the badass baby.

[389] Holy shit.

[390] Epic, right?

[391] I love it so much.

[392] I also love that such a dad move.

[393] It's like you're kind of trying to, it feels like the dad is trying to kind of boost them up a little bit.

[394] You know what I mean?

[395] It's like to the boyfriend, like, you will never believe what they were like when they were a baby.

[396] But then also embarrass them.

[397] Right.

[398] But how do you never hear a story about yourself like that?

[399] It's why, I mean, that sounds like a very traumatizing time.

[400] So maybe they didn't like to talk about the past.

[401] But you got to.

[402] Yeah, it took a while to see the silver lining of projectile vomiting.

[403] Right.

[404] Or maybe there's like an awkward silence with the boyfriend at dinner.

[405] And they're like, we got to fill this.

[406] Okay, here you go.

[407] This is what the minisodes are all about, is reading you hometowns that you can then, if you're in an awkward social situation, retell stories.

[408] Yeah.

[409] Please try to credit people if you can.

[410] Yeah.

[411] Or if you need to lie.

[412] and say it's your story.

[413] Just get out of that awkward situation.

[414] That's the goal.

[415] Any means necessary.

[416] By any means necessary.

[417] Or start projecta vomiting.

[418] I mean, also it's like that baby got a vibe.

[419] Let's just be honest.

[420] Yeah.

[421] That baby's tapped in.

[422] Bo -bo.

[423] It couldn't yell, mom, stop.

[424] It just came out differently.

[425] It's like, what will stop my mom?

[426] Oh, right.

[427] Exorcist barf.

[428] Okay, the subject line of my last story is Organ Transplant Story will make Karen cry.

[429] Oh, I love it.

[430] So let's just see.

[431] Okay.

[432] Hi, all, I just listened to episode 318 about the shooting of Nicholas Green, and you all ask for organ transplant stories.

[433] I have one that gives all the good feelings.

[434] My brother -in -law grew up in Western Kentucky, and this is technically his hometown story, but I'm telling it.

[435] When I first read that sentence, I read it like sibling style.

[436] I'm telling it.

[437] I'm telling it.

[438] He went on to go to Western Kentucky University with one of his best friends.

[439] When they were 19, his best friend was killed by a drunk driver.

[440] His death was extremely hard on my brother who had to continue through college without his childhood best friend by his side.

[441] Flash forward 20 years and my brother -in -law is in a Lowe's halfway across the state living in a new city.

[442] He walks up to the paint station to get some paint mixed and the Lowe's worker turns around.

[443] My brother takes a step back.

[444] Pinned to the employee's Lowe's vest, he's a picture of his late best friend at 19, exactly as my brother remembered him.

[445] Oh, my God.

[446] After gathering his breath, he asks the employee why he has a picture of his friend pinned to his vest.

[447] Now it's time for the Lowe's employee to lose his breath.

[448] He quietly says to my brother -in -law, I have his heart.

[449] I'm going to cry.

[450] Mm -hmm.

[451] Oh, my God.

[452] Yeah.

[453] Right?

[454] My brother -in -law lost it right there in Lowe's.

[455] He'd never known who his friend's organs went to after he passed.

[456] He hugged the man and sat with him for 30 minutes, talking about his friend.

[457] My brother's friend had saved this man's life.

[458] And in his honor, the man kept a picture pinned to his vest, even 20 years after his passing.

[459] Oh, my God.

[460] If the man didn't have this picture, my brother would have never known that he was standing so close to his late friend's heart.

[461] Yeah, like, what are the chances?

[462] What are the fucking chances?

[463] Not in the same hometown, like not in the same place.

[464] Yeah.

[465] He would have gone about his day as any other day.

[466] God, that is really weird to think about.

[467] Yeah.

[468] He would have never seen the good that came from such a tragedy.

[469] My brother still gets teary when telling this story to us and others, so I had to share it with you all.

[470] I'm teary.

[471] It worked.

[472] Yeah, me too.

[473] That worked good.

[474] Organ transplants stories are incredible to me. I'm not a religious person, but something about having someone else's original parts in you makes me believe a part of their soul, stays with you.

[475] I think that's true too.

[476] I think so too.

[477] It makes death a little more bearable if they live on in others.

[478] So sign up to be an organ donor.

[479] Thank you Karen and Georgia for everything you do.

[480] E, she, her.

[481] Oh my fucking God.

[482] Can you imagine how weird that would be?

[483] That is beautiful.

[484] Like sometimes life doesn't suck.

[485] There are these little moments where you're like, hey, everything in the world is on fire, but they're still good.

[486] some people, you know?

[487] And there's still little moments of magic in the world.

[488] It's the thing my therapist says, which was you can always be surprised.

[489] You have to remember that you are not a fortune teller.

[490] You don't know anything for sure.

[491] And there's plenty out there that can surprise you.

[492] You can always be surprised.

[493] That's so true.

[494] Yeah.

[495] Nice batch.

[496] Good grouping.

[497] Amazing batch.

[498] Send us to your stories.

[499] whatever you want them to be.

[500] And also, if you want to hear one more story from each of us, it'll be there in the fan cult.

[501] And there's a ton of those back cataloged, too.

[502] So you can listen all those if you want for a long drive or whatever the fuck.

[503] Yeah, plan ahead, you know, be a part of those things early and often.

[504] Yeah.

[505] And also stay sexy.

[506] And don't get murdered.

[507] Goodbye.

[508] Elvis, do you want a cookie?

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[510] Our senior producer is Hannah Kyle Crichton.

[511] Our producer is Alejandra Keck.

[512] This episode was engineered and mixed by Stephen Ray Morris.

[513] Our researchers are Gemma Harris and Haley Gray.

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