#932 - TJ Kirk

[0] Boom, bon, five, four, three, two, one.

[1] We're live here from the Valley with the artist, formerly known as the Amazing Atheist.

[2] Hello.

[3] Imagine if I just started talking like that, no explanation, I just kept it going for years.

[4] Everybody's like, one day he's going to drop it.

[5] I kind of dropped it a little.

[6] The Amazing Atheist, right?

[7] Yeah.

[8] I mean, I still use it.

[9] I oscillate.

[10] I'm kind of trying to transition to just using my real name.

[11] Well, the last time you were here, you talked about that, and that was, I think, two years ago.

[12] So this was a slow.

[13] It was a year and three months ago.

[14] Oh, that's it?

[15] Yeah.

[16] Really?

[17] Yeah.

[18] It was January of 2016.

[19] Why do I feel like it was so my memory?

[20] I don't know.

[21] You know what?

[22] You know that Dunbar's number thing where you can only fit so many people in your brain?

[23] Yeah.

[24] And there's definitely that going on in my head and then too much data.

[25] My hard drive is fucked.

[26] You know, if you get an old laptop and it keeps telling you, you'd have to delete some files because you're running out of space and that's my brain.

[27] Yeah, I mean, my brain is even worse because literally things like, things I knew yesterday, I don't know today anymore.

[28] Yeah.

[29] Like, my memory is dog shit.

[30] And you were just saying you haven't smoked pot in days.

[31] Yeah.

[32] Hmm.

[33] Not in days.

[34] Interesting.

[35] Days and days.

[36] Days and days and days.

[37] I fucked up and had an edible last night.

[38] I did this, there's a show that my friend Jeremiah Watkins has, and it's like a make -em -up show.

[39] They calls it stand -up on the spot where the audience will yell out, you know, fried broccoli, like whatever, and you just have to rant on broccoli, like what your thoughts are, try to get some comedy out of it.

[40] And occasionally, maybe one out of ten subjects, it will actually yield a real bit that will become a bit in your act.

[41] It's really kind of amazing when you put on the pressure like that.

[42] So I said, what a good time to test the deep end of the pool and find out what these speedweed edibles are all about.

[43] I fucked up.

[44] Yeah.

[45] Fucked up.

[46] My brother had a, like a panic attack on edibles just like a few days ago.

[47] My friend brought over some like pot brownies and he had one.

[48] He's not really used to edibles.

[49] Anyway, I go to bed.

[50] I'm laying down and watching.

[51] in like Star Trek Deep Space 9 or some shit.

[52] I get a knock on the door like, T .J. Hey, man, can you come out here for a minute?

[53] I'm like, okay.

[54] What the hell is this?

[55] I got out there, he's like, I'm really not feeling good man. I think I'm having a heart attack, dude.

[56] I'm like, dude, you're probably just having a panic attack because it's too much weed.

[57] Okay, have this, has this ever happened to you?

[58] Is this ever happened to you?

[59] I'm like, yeah.

[60] It's happened to me before.

[61] Just calm down.

[62] You know, your heart's racing.

[63] You feel disoriented and shit.

[64] And I thought I was calming him down.

[65] I spent like 30 minutes talking him down, but fine.

[66] You know, and he seemed like he was like, okay, yeah, yeah, I'm cool now.

[67] I'm cool now.

[68] And then just all of a sudden, like, no, I feel terrible.

[69] We got to go to the hospital.

[70] We got to go to the hospital, dude.

[71] I got to go to the fucking hospital.

[72] And I drove him over there.

[73] And I sat down in that, fucking hospital waiting room and they there was like this fucking ad for stanley steamer and there was this terrible jingle and i'm like it's like the worst jingle i've ever heard it's not going to get stuck in my head and now to this day call one 800 steamer stanley steamer you're certified cleaner i'll be in bed at night and that shit'll be in my head just over and over and over and over and over again yeah they have wizards that come up with those things Even the ones that suck.

[74] They just get in there, you know?

[75] Oh, yeah, it's a terrible one.

[76] And then he gets out.

[77] They gave him some fucking, um, add a van.

[78] You know, you can give him next time?

[79] Just give him some coffee.

[80] Coffee's like one of the best things.

[81] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[82] There's something about caffeine, apparently.

[83] The counteract the effects of marijuana.

[84] When you're, uh, really high, they say, just drink some coffee.

[85] I'll have to do that next time.

[86] Yeah.

[87] If that happens.

[88] Isn't that true?

[89] That is true, right?

[90] At an hot shower, I think, because that's right.

[91] Everyone's got their own fucking home remedy for this shit, I guess.

[92] But here's the thing, like, once you've done it a few times, you realize, well, what the panic attack is is essentially your brain taking an audit of all the things that are real and are real worries that you haven't been considering at all.

[93] And then they fly, well, you're going to die someday.

[94] Are you prepared?

[95] Like, what if it's tomorrow?

[96] Are you ready?

[97] Have you had a good life?

[98] Ah!

[99] What if someone close to you dies?

[100] You think you're going to be able to recover?

[101] Ah!

[102] You just start thinking like really crazy shit.

[103] And it just makes you aware of those things.

[104] And then once it wears off, you know, you reach that sort of neutral point again.

[105] Well, he's a hypochondriac to begin with.

[106] Oh, that's not good.

[107] You can't give guys like that weed.

[108] You should know better.

[109] Well, he's fine if he smokes it, but if he eats it, it's a different thing.

[110] It's different shit.

[111] It's totally different thing.

[112] So your podcast was the big podcast that kind of sunk Milo.

[113] It was kind of a combination of yours.

[114] And I remember it was yours.

[115] It was me watching him on your show that led us to ask about that.

[116] Because I saw him on your show, and he was like, God at the time.

[117] Because I remember at the time he was on our show, I told Paul, one of my co -hosts, like, Paul, this guy ain't no lightweight, and he's got a huge army of sick of fans right now.

[118] If you get into debate with him, if you lose, you're a total bitch.

[119] If you tie, you lose.

[120] If you win by a little, you lose.

[121] The only way you can actually beat him with his army of sycophants at this time is if you just demolish him.

[122] So don't even try.

[123] You were concerned about this?

[124] Like this is like something you planned out in advance?

[125] No, I mean, I wasn't really a plan.

[126] I just wanted to bring it up because I saw him on your show saying it.

[127] I'm like, that's very strange.

[128] I kind of knew where he was coming from.

[129] Sure.

[130] Because I knew that he had had experiences, like sexual experiences when he was younger.

[131] Yeah.

[132] And he was kind of, I think he was trying to trivialize them and turn them into humor.

[133] Yeah, I mean, you know, his way of dealing with it or whatever, you know, say like, oh, me and it was mutual between me and the priest.

[134] I was molested by a priest, but I was into it, so it was cool.

[135] Well, he's like, I was the predator.

[136] Yeah.

[137] Like, he seduced the priest, you know?

[138] Yeah.

[139] It's kind of hard for me to imagine a 13 -year -old boy, no matter how flamboyantly gay or sexually aggressive, you know, jump in the priest's bones or something.

[140] You know, well, I think it sort of gives you a better understanding of how this guy came to be who he is today and why he so relishes this role of being the contrarian and being this sort of very difficult to pigeonhole, gay man who's very conservative but yet believes in man -boy love.

[141] I mean, look, this is if you go back and you read old articles that he wrote for publication.

[142] that he worked for in the past.

[143] There was a lot of stuff like, we're going to take on bullying on Twitter, and we need to make a safe space for people online.

[144] This is Milo, and now he's, like, the biggest troll.

[145] Right.

[146] I mean, we talked about Milo last time I was on your show, and you told me you kind of put the seed in my brain like, eh, he's kind of like fake.

[147] And the more I've looked into it, the more I have to question whether or not that shit with the priest even happened to begin with.

[148] Yeah.

[149] Because I just don't, I don't know, I don't really trust the shit that comes out of his mouth in terms of, like, face value.

[150] Right.

[151] And I think a lot of times when Milo tries to make a point, he doesn't necessarily make it by directly saying it.

[152] He tries to make it through, like, performance art. Like when he went on Bill Maher.

[153] And, you know, he's doing this whole flamboyant gay conservative.

[154] thing because he wants the liberal Bill Maher audience to be like boo boo because it's like oh look what hypocrites they say they accept gays but the second you don't tow their line what they obviously like is people who tow their line not gay people right uh i think that was the point he was trying to make i thought it was funny too how bill mar the next day after um mylo's scandal broke was like i took him down it was he was he saying yeah it was like i took i took him down it's Dude, you compared it.

[155] You said he was the next Hitchens when he was on your show.

[156] Wait a minute.

[157] He really said he took him down.

[158] He said, I took him down.

[159] No. I took him down.

[160] Oh, he's a fool.

[161] That's such a foolish thing to think.

[162] You know, what I think is what Milo does a lot of it is performance art. Yeah.

[163] It's a lot of trolling, and it's a lot of very calculated stuff designed to sort of rile people up and get people active and get people to talk about him.

[164] I mean, that's the reason why he does this tour on colleges.

[165] I mean, why not do it in the lion's den if you want to get the roars?

[166] I mean, he's doing it like where he feels like this problem is the greatest.

[167] Oh, he wants to stir that pot, too, because he knows if he just does it in some club downtown, there's not going to be any protest, no one's going to give a shit.

[168] They'll still protest, I'm sure, but not, like, bringing it to their campus.

[169] It won't be like what happened at Berkeley.

[170] Yes, yeah, what happened at Berkeley?

[171] It was just fucking insane.

[172] What's really insane is that, was it the mayor of San Francisco that was applauding the protest?

[173] Like, hey, fuckface, there was $100 ,000 where the property.

[174] damage people are throwing chairs through Starbucks windows and lighten cop cars on fire this ain't good there's been articles on like the Huffington I almost made a video about this article on the Huffington Post actually that was basically like violence is as valid a reaction to Trump as anything that's like wow you're literally just advocating for violence and you think you're so enlightened yeah it's completely foolish it's like it goes and once things aren't going their way, it goes against everything they've stood before before.

[175] What about kindness?

[176] What about compassion?

[177] What about treating people with love?

[178] What about facts?

[179] Well, that's okay when they're in power.

[180] Exactly.

[181] That's okay when they're in power.

[182] Yeah.

[183] But when someone else is in power that they don't like, it all kind of goes out the way.

[184] Well, kind of goes both ways, though, doesn't it?

[185] Oh, yeah, it definitely does.

[186] I mean, remember when Obama was in office and there's people that were calling him a Muslim and they were talking about taking them out?

[187] I ain't fucking, I remember, I heard rednecks.

[188] I was living in Louisiana at the time he was elected.

[189] And I heard redneck say shit like, man, I can't wait for someone who was sad.

[190] This piece of shit.

[191] You know, there's like they were looking forward to it like you know not only did they think it was inevitable he'd be assassinated But it was like yeah, that's gonna be a good thing.

[192] That's gonna be a good day for America when Obama's finally killed and when they say things like that and you corner them you go okay.

[193] Well, what what's so bad about him?

[194] What about what drives you so nuts?

[195] He's a Kenyan.

[196] He's a socialist Socialist.

[197] Socialist muslim Muslim Kenyan communist secret Muslim I would love it if someone put Hold off socialism somewhere.

[198] Like there was one country, you can go, well, look, those guys are happy.

[199] I mean, those folks.

[200] If you look at socialism as like a gradient, then there's plenty of countries that are, that have like more or less.

[201] More socialist than we are.

[202] I don't think pure socialism is a good idea anymore than, like, pure capitalism.

[203] Like, oh, we just need laissez -faire, libertarian idea.

[204] Like, yeah, the markets will take care of everything.

[205] How many libertarians does it take to screw in a light bulb?

[206] None.

[207] The free market will take care of it.

[208] Yeah, well, those people get a little goofy.

[209] And you know, the most frustrating to me is the anarchists, the ones who want.

[210] Oh, God.

[211] No taxes, no cops.

[212] You know, nobody fixes the roads.

[213] Or worse, private police.

[214] Oh, that's even worse.

[215] Yeah, it's like, private police.

[216] Like, how does that work?

[217] You mean, everyone, if you're, if you have money, you just hire out your own justice?

[218] I mean...

[219] Hire out thugs.

[220] Does that really seem like they would be objective and in pursuit of, like, uh, Justice, it seems like they would just be your armed thugs that are going to meet out whatever form of justice you think is appropriate.

[221] Yeah, well, for sure, if they're working for you, that'd be an issue.

[222] If you're the big boss, and the big boss wants these laws enforced, you know, and then the big boss passes his own laws on his property, makes things different.

[223] It's like, it gets real weird when you're dealing with 350 million people.

[224] That's really a part of the problem.

[225] It's what the style of civilization that works well for one person is not what's preferred by another person.

[226] all those things combined with the whole antiquated voting system, the whole ridiculous electoral college system, we're never going to achieve like some sort of peace of mind.

[227] Super delegates in the Democratic Party.

[228] Those are the most ridiculous.

[229] Wait a minute.

[230] Hold on.

[231] You're a super delicate.

[232] So you can, how does that work?

[233] You can decide not to vote for the way the entire state voted.

[234] Yes, that's right.

[235] And we're leaving it up to them to make sure that Trump doesn't get in.

[236] gap you know like because the the people in power have always been afraid of the actual will of the people so anything they can do they want to safeguard like well if the people choose poorly you know we want to be able to stop that from happening yeah we have to those uninformed fools we can't leave them up to their own decisions in all fairness I've been around America and there are a lot of uninformed fools there's a few quite a few what do you think it's like half of us are uninformed fools I wouldn't even want to throw out a number but there's just a lot of people that are stupid.

[237] I mean, it's hard to know because, you know, you really almost don't know what someone really thinks until you sit down with them one by one or, you know, one on one and have a conversation.

[238] And even then.

[239] Well, you don't keep a real job, right?

[240] When was the last time you had a real job, a job, job?

[241] I worked it.

[242] I hop for two days.

[243] About 10 years ago.

[244] That's it.

[245] More than 10 years ago.

[246] And what have you been doing for the most part since then?

[247] YouTube.

[248] Yeah.

[249] See, if you can make a living doing something else in this day and age, you're removed from the grid.

[250] And if you're removed from the employer, employee grid, you get to see things in a different way.

[251] You go, well, this is all temporary.

[252] And, you know, everyone's working towards some future that really never comes.

[253] This is, like, the life that you're experiencing right now is life.

[254] Yeah.

[255] And most people are spending that time doing shit they don't want to do, and it fills up all their time.

[256] So then when it comes to government and it comes to, like, who's the way?

[257] leading the country, which direction is a country going into?

[258] How much time to people actually spend paying attention to it and actually spend really considering it?

[259] I mean, I've had, I've been at people's houses where I'll try to bring up, um, politics or politics or something like that.

[260] They get sick.

[261] And people are just like, we don't talk about that in this household.

[262] Ooh.

[263] It's like what?

[264] Really?

[265] You don't want to, I mean, like, even like, not even necessarily politics, we're just news.

[266] Like, yeah, do you hear about this thing that happened?

[267] I don't like news.

[268] It depresses me. Is this a woman?

[269] It sounds like a woman's voice.

[270] You had your southern voice, and this is a, this is the, that was a woman voice.

[271] Not in my house, woman.

[272] Not in my house.

[273] Yeah.

[274] We don't put up with that shit around here.

[275] We have ways that we allow you to communicate inside these borders.

[276] By the way, I did lose my IHop job by dumping pancakes on somebody.

[277] You did?

[278] Yeah.

[279] Who was it?

[280] It's fat fuck.

[281] You know what?

[282] But I went into the job and, and I was like, all right, look, I'm not good with people.

[283] Don't put me anywhere near front of house.

[284] I'm going to be in the kitchen I'm going to do I was living in Alabama at the time I was like 18 I had a 32 year old girlfriend Oh shit So I was like You were mature Yeah and she's like You know I was lazy around the house every day While she went and worked And eventually she's like You need to get a job And I'm like It's reasonable I guess Hey you were banging a 32 year old You should have been psyched Yeah Well I was at first But then when she said get a job I was like Yeah But I did.

[285] I'm like, all right, I'm going to try to make this work.

[286] So I went to I hop, and they're like, yeah, you just work the back.

[287] I'm like, okay, cool, I'll work the back.

[288] I'll just, I'll do dishes.

[289] I'll just turn my brain off and wash dishes.

[290] Right.

[291] And, you know, I'll learn to do the grill or whatever the fuck else.

[292] Second day I was there, they're like, we're short -staffed.

[293] We're going to need you to just take care of a few tables.

[294] I'm like, it's not a good idea.

[295] I'm not good with the public.

[296] I train you how to do it when they say their short stuff?

[297] They just sent you out there?

[298] They're just like, yeah, I mean, they told me like, yeah, you just, you know, write down their orders yeah just go out right out you know we know you're not going to be great at it whatever but go do it because we're short staff we need you everyone else in the kitchen is more vital than you are because they've all been here a long time so I went out and I took I waited on like three or four tables and there was this one fat fuck who maybe like I mean it had been a while this place was not well run the fact that they sent me out to fucking wait tables is evidence of that So it was like 15 minutes And he hadn't got his fucking Pancakes and breakfast and shit And he's like Where are my pancakes?

[299] I'm like, oh, I'll go check.

[300] You better.

[301] You better.

[302] You better.

[303] And that just rang in my head You know, like the same as that jingle.

[304] You better.

[305] You better.

[306] You better.

[307] You better.

[308] I'm like I don't recall you signing my fucking paychecks So I just went up to him with the panties.

[309] I just went up to him cake train I just dumped it in his lap and like there you go bitch I walked out that's all it took was you better and you know what I fucking I was I was out there in the parking lot for about seven hours because I didn't have a cell phone uh I didn't have a ride it wasn't seven hours more like four or five but I was just wandering around in a parking lot I couldn't even stay in the I hop parking lot because I didn't want anyone from there to come in but I just wandered around the parking lot of this shopping center for four hours waiting for my girlfriend to show up when she finally did i was just like yeah i quit didn't tell her the story just told her i quit and uh we broke up shortly after that i would imagine that wouldn't work out it didn't work out well you were 18 yeah i was young i was young and stupid you were young now i'm old and stupid you were antisocial slightly forced into a situation that you didn't desire i'm extremely antisocial in general are you yeah still to this day but that's interesting because you do youtube videos and you talk yeah And you talk with people on a podcast, which is pretty social.

[310] Yeah.

[311] I'm getting better at it.

[312] That's good.

[313] You know, I'm still not comfortable around strangers and shit.

[314] Yeah, you get uncomfortable when you do podcasts, like this one.

[315] Does this make you uncomfortable?

[316] Oh, yeah.

[317] You know, like a lot of people, when I guess they figured out I was coming on here again, I read a threat on the drunken peasants subreddit where people were talking about, yeah, you know, he's going to be on Joe Rogan again.

[318] And, you know, people were like, yeah, I liked last time, but I hope he's not so nervous this time.

[319] Uh -oh, you can't say that Because he's like, I'm like, oh shit Well, I was nervous last time Like, last time I did your show I came in here and I talked to you And then I left And I was like, I have no idea What the content of the conversation I just had was I don't remember I got here I don't remember a fucking word You were already baked out of your mind When I got here That's true too That was, I don't remember much What we talked about either But it was good That's where you're back Yeah, I mean I enjoyed it I've never been able to watch it, though.

[320] Yeah, I don't watch them.

[321] I can't watch it at all.

[322] I mean, usually I will watch everything that I'm in and just am in love with the sound of my own voice and obsessive and, you know, all that shit.

[323] But, like, this, this show I couldn't watch just because, like, I can't stay, like, I can't watch my CNN appearance either.

[324] What did you do CNN about?

[325] I went on CNN because they were doing, there was, like, a new poll out that showed that faith was on the decline in America, so they had me on there.

[326] But unfortunately, I was supposed to be on 30 minutes.

[327] unfortunately that was the day that fucking Ratzinger resigned or whatever so that it got preempted for that shit but I was on for about four minutes and I I had like an argument with William Lane Craig about statistics and you know who's William Lane Craig he's a Christian apologist piece of shit he's horrible he's just wretched you can watch him debate Hitchens and I think no he never debated Dawkins but you can watch him debate Hitchens Terrible stuff Yeah That sounds like not Not so good Just the name William Lane Craig It's like settle down buddy Here one minute Yeah why not just William Craig Why you gotta throw that lane in there Unless you're married to someone who's last name is Lane And that's always a disaster With hyphenated marriages That shit just seems like someone's Like that is an oil wrestling match And someone's gonna lose You guys are gonna lose It's not gonna work It's too much struggle for power there.

[328] That's true.

[329] Hyphenated names.

[330] Plus, what do you do if you have, what, I mean, what happens when it compounds, you know, like the kids are born, do they take the hyphenated name?

[331] Exactly.

[332] And then what if they meet and fall in love with someone else who has a hyphenated name?

[333] Do they then have like four last names with three hyphens in it, you know?

[334] It's like, does it just compound over time, like, until eventually everyone has every single last name, just hyphenated?

[335] That's true.

[336] If everybody was so greedy and wanted to be special the way those assholes do we would all have hyphenated names that would be a real problem maybe just get rid of the fucking uh name change shit and just argue about what the kids are going to be named i don't know how do you feel about people of changing their names like what if you just decided like i want to change my whole name i mean first and last i just want to become a new person my dad changed his name did he yeah did you have a crazy last name hard to pronounce no it wasn't that my grandfather look i'm thomas james kirk the third but i'm the first person and my family to have that name so what yeah what happened was my grandfather was named james vardeman kirk james kirk so when my dad was james vartiman kirk junior star trek came out at some point and he's james kirk so he's getting star trek jokes non -stop all the time finally he was in france and he ordered up some champagne to his room he was impressing a young woman and uh they're like oh we'll beam it right up sir and he's like fuck this name wow i got to get rid of this so when i was born um thomas james kirk the third because he knew he was changing his name to thomas james kirk junior but he didn't actually officially change it till after i was born so even though i'm the third i'm actually the first.

[337] Whoa.

[338] That's crazy.

[339] No one would ever guess that on a trivia test.

[340] Nope.

[341] You would sneak that one right through.

[342] That's annoying.

[343] That's like there's no one probably today that's named Rick James.

[344] Like anyone born after the Chappelle show, there's no fucking way anyone who saw the Chappelle show is naming their kid Rick James.

[345] If your last name's James, you're not going to name your boy Rick.

[346] Right?

[347] I mean, I don't know.

[348] Maybe some people are like, damn right.

[349] Rick James, I'm Rick James, bitch.

[350] That was a real problem with Chappelle's career.

[351] That Rick James bitch thing, people would yell it out at shows, just constantly yell it out.

[352] Like, white bros. Like, you know, the, you know the guy who would yell it.

[353] You could see him, you know?

[354] I'm Rick James, bitch, like, drunk.

[355] Rick James, bitch!

[356] Woo!

[357] Yeah.

[358] And people apparently just kept dealing at his shows.

[359] It was like a real problem for a while.

[360] You should have done like a, just be like Schwarzenegger.

[361] Just embrace it.

[362] You know, Schwarzenegger goes around.

[363] He always is using all, you're terminated and all this shit, you know.

[364] He just embraces it because he knows people just fucking get that shit in their head and they want to hear it.

[365] So he's like, fuck it, give it to him.

[366] Yeah, he did it on the new apprentice, right?

[367] Yeah.

[368] You're terminated.

[369] I never saw it.

[370] Did you see it?

[371] No, no, I didn't.

[372] I didn't even watch the old one.

[373] But he'll fucking go around like he'll do all of his little lines, I'll be back and all this shit.

[374] Yeah.

[375] You know, he doesn't care.

[376] No, he doesn't.

[377] trademark.

[378] That's his shit.

[379] He's not scared of it.

[380] I love the fucking, there was a rally where someone threw eggs at Arnold Schwarzenegger.

[381] They threw eggs out of him?

[382] Yeah, they threw eggs.

[383] He got on his suit and he's like, well, that's what's great about America, but they owe me some bacon.

[384] You know, it's like, what?

[385] You're so fucking smooth, Arnold.

[386] You should be president.

[387] They threw eggs at him.

[388] Yeah.

[389] People just looking for a reason to get mad.

[390] I'm pissed because Arnold, he's the problem in America.

[391] Arnold fucking Schwarzenegger.

[392] Was he a good governor?

[393] No. Was he a bad governor?

[394] No, not really.

[395] It was just half -assed?

[396] It was half -ass mediocre governor.

[397] Do you think it's almost impossible to jump in later in life without going through the river of politics first?

[398] House of card style?

[399] Trump's kind of done it.

[400] You're right.

[401] But has he?

[402] I mean, he's in, but I mean, is it going to work?

[403] You know what I mean?

[404] Like Arnold Schwarzenegger got in, too, like in the relationship to the same, you know, same two sort of situations.

[405] I mean, it works enough to where he's president.

[406] That's true.

[407] I mean, it worked that.

[408] well.

[409] I mean, his approval ratings are kind of dog shit, but they always were.

[410] But like when you say whether or not Arnold Schwarzenegger was a good governor.

[411] Yeah.

[412] I don't know.

[413] I don't really know enough about it.

[414] I would have to like really look into it.

[415] But yeah, I mean, uh, the big thing was that, uh, he, he tried to pass all these, um, um, I guess laws is not really the word I'm looking for, but I'll use that.

[416] He tried to pass all these like laws and, uh, they all failed at the ballot and people said he was done and he would just went out and like he went out and made a speech that almost gave you the impression like he'd been against them from the start like yes these terrible laws they are gone it's like okay you're the one who pushed them but whatever he was really smooth that just operating with crowds and just knew what to say knew the right attitude to strike but in terms of actually governing it was just mediocre he didn't really get much done legislatively but he didn't really he wasn't really a disaster either yeah well that's what I was thinking like I wonder how difficult it is to get things done like we'd only be guessing like sitting here on the outside and that guy that you were talking to like Obama's a piece of shit like that kind of a guy yeah like how much of it how much of it do you think he really grasps very little yeah I don't think anybody who's not doing it grasps how complex that system is well I mean you know you and I probably both know that the the more people you involve in any sort of endeavor or project the more difficult it becomes because you're managing all these different interests for sure so when you're you know president or governor or something like that you have so many people that you're supposed to be representing and they all have different ideas and they're they all have their own uh there's other legislators who have their agendas and shit so it's probably pretty difficult to get much of anything done could you imagine the stress of that job i mean just imagine Well, that's why Trump's been golfing so many times Just to try to relieve stress Yeah, I'm sure I mean like he criticized Obama for golfing too much And now Trump's like a big avid golfer I can't even imagine it I mean the guy's 70 years old too Like why would he even want to take this on With all that money and all that You know All that power already Like why would he Why would he want to be the president It just seems like Such a fucking hilarious job unless he really feels like he can fix things or he's really going to make a ton of money from it.

[417] I mean, this is a guy who plasteres his fucking name on buildings and shit, you know, so I think it's really just a matter for him of like, this is part of my legacy.

[418] You know, towards the end of my life, I was president of the United States.

[419] It's so weird.

[420] It's so weird.

[421] Because it's another version of what many people did with Obama in this weird way in that when Obama got into office, there was all these like really, really irrational people that said all kinds of crazy shit.

[422] And by the way, Trump was amongst them.

[423] He was a birther.

[424] Yeah, he was.

[425] Remember?

[426] For the longest time, he was convinced.

[427] Somebody convinced him.

[428] I don't know who convinced him.

[429] I don't know if he really relinquished it and realized he was wrong or if he still holds on to the idea.

[430] Did he ever really believe it, too?

[431] I don't know.

[432] You know, I don't know.

[433] But you know who started that whole birther thing?

[434] Hillary Clinton.

[435] Yeah, she did.

[436] That's right.

[437] That's Something that people forget.

[438] It was during the campaign between her and Obama when they were trying to get the nomination in 2008.

[439] Yeah.

[440] Yeah, she had, well, she had one of her little orgs send out materials that, you know, showed Obama in like the, like, he was wearing, like, some African Muslim garb shit because he went on a visit to some other kind of.

[441] You look at him, you know.

[442] He's Muslim.

[443] God.

[444] And, you know, and Trump just ran with that.

[445] Yeah.

[446] Or a lot of Republicans did, too, because, you know.

[447] Well, I guess that's just how they play politics.

[448] They have something like that.

[449] They just run with it.

[450] It's just so strange to see.

[451] Well, when you got a candidate named Barack Obama.

[452] I know.

[453] It's amazing.

[454] Hussein.

[455] Hussein Obama.

[456] Like Barack Hussein Obama.

[457] Hussein, isn't that the guy that, you know, ran Iraq and Obama?

[458] Isn't that similar to the name of the guy that crashed those planes into the towers?

[459] Yeah, somebody had a joke really good, well -worded.

[460] joke.

[461] I don't remember who it was, though.

[462] Might have been Tony Hinchcliffe.

[463] But the, I mean, it's just, this is almost a similar reaction.

[464] I don't mean it's less, it's more rational or less rational.

[465] What I mean is almost like the energy of the reaction, like the energy of the birthers and the guys who were convinced that he was some sort of undercover Muslim and then he was going to get into the White House and try to take America down from the inside, like that feeling that the amount of energy that way is mirrored now on the left, maybe even Maybe in past, I would say probably, I might not be right because I might not be remembering it perfectly, but I feel like the energy on the left of people getting mad at Trump is more powerful or more, there's more to it than the energy that I saw from people on the right that wanted Obama out of us.

[466] But it might just be my memory.

[467] You got to remember, too, there's like an age gap there.

[468] Yeah.

[469] Because, you know, most of the people who were talking this shit about Obama were pretty old.

[470] Right, right.

[471] And a lot of the people now that are pissed are really young.

[472] So they're more likely to take to the streets and, you know, smash things and hold up signs and, you know, act wild and shit.

[473] And mace people.

[474] Yeah, you know, and I remember when Bush took office, though, like when Bush was being inaugurated, I remember he was driving down to the White House during on inauguration day.

[475] And there were, you know, with Trump, the protesters kind of came the next day.

[476] But when Bush was inaugurated, the protesters were all there the day of.

[477] And, you know, Bush couldn't even do the little traditional walk down the last few blocks of the journey because there were so many protesters.

[478] Yeah.

[479] People were just throwing things at the fucking motorcade and shit.

[480] So, I mean, like, this is not unusual.

[481] But that was towards the end.

[482] No, that was the very beginning.

[483] What am I?

[484] Which one am I thinking of?

[485] Wasn't there one towards the very end that I think we're thinking of different ones?

[486] Okay.

[487] I think my memories fucked up.

[488] But I think there was one towards the end where they had planned on having him walk down some long stretch.

[489] Yeah.

[490] And they had to abandon it and get him into a car.

[491] Is that the same story?

[492] Yeah, well, I think that was both times.

[493] I think it was the first, but even during his first time, like, when he was just first being inaugurated president in 2000.

[494] So right after Clinton?

[495] Yeah.

[496] Like that inauguration was bad too.

[497] It was almost the same.

[498] Yeah, it was terrible.

[499] It was almost the same as what you see now because people had had this Democrat in power for eight years.

[500] And they thought like, yeah, and they thought gore's a shoe in because Clinton's popular.

[501] Just same as like Hillary's a shoe in because Obama's popular.

[502] Right.

[503] But, you know, a Republican ended up taking it and they just freaked out.

[504] And it seems like that always just happens.

[505] I mean, like this kind of like backlash, like it always is kind of sold to us as like, this is new.

[506] This is like, oh, wow, look at what's going on now.

[507] Isn't this crazy?

[508] What crazy times we live in.

[509] But I look back at my memories of the past, and it seems like this is pretty par for the course.

[510] I think you're right.

[511] Now that I'm thinking about it, it's almost like we go through these cycles.

[512] Yeah.

[513] And if a president gets past one cycle removed from his tenure, then people forgive him.

[514] They forget, and they change their opinion.

[515] Yeah.

[516] Like, Reagan.

[517] Like, man, when I was a kid, Reagan was a pariah.

[518] Like, people were so upset about Reagan.

[519] They were so upset, and there was the Contra versus Nicaragua trial that was on television with Oliver North.

[520] Yeah.

[521] And we were finding out on TV, like, whether or not the government had sold arms and lied about it.

[522] And then, you know, the whole Reagan thing, whether or not Reagan sold arms to Iran, the great Jimmy Tingle, hilarious stand -up comedian in Boston has this bit about it.

[523] Because that was when Reagan started claiming Alzheimer's, or when he claimed memory issues, which turned out to be true.

[524] I mean, he really did have memory issues, and he probably did at the time.

[525] But they asked him, did you sell arms to Iraq?

[526] He said, I don't know.

[527] And Jimmy Tangle's like, Mr. President, if you ever sell arms to people who hate us, jot it down.

[528] He's like, make a note.

[529] Put it on the refrigerator.

[530] Today I sold arms to people who hate me. You have to hear him say.

[531] I mean, you know, you have to realize, though, like, America's always been a huge arms dealer.

[532] I mean, we're constantly selling weapons.

[533] Oh, yeah.

[534] I mean, like, if he didn't remember why he did it, it's probably because there were just so many other transactions.

[535] I don't think the president personally gets involved too much in that sort of stuff.

[536] No, probably not.

[537] Our country sells weapons all over the place, and we continue to do that.

[538] Yeah.

[539] My point was there, like, eight years later, he was the great Ronald Reagan.

[540] Oh, yeah.

[541] Eight years later.

[542] Lionized.

[543] He goes through the Clinton administration.

[544] Everybody's done with Clinton, getting his dick sucked in the White House and all that craziness.

[545] And then as soon as that's over, people start reminiscing to Reagan.

[546] It's really interesting.

[547] It's really interesting how we do it.

[548] And so now Bush went through this period of being hated, and he's out of office that Obama goes through his period of being hated for eight years.

[549] And now that an even more unreasonable Republicans in office, people long to the Bush days.

[550] Oh, yeah.

[551] You notice they're trotting Bush out and doing it.

[552] interviews with him like hey remember this war criminal now he's okay he's he's uncle bush it's uncle bush here uncle bush gonna set you on his knee they um super impote what is that protest during the bush administration uh his inaugurations yeah yeah yep wow what is it saying fuck bush oh buck bush there's a couple of year or not my president things of course man of course so you know this is this is all so cyclic yeah it just happens over and over again and people think it's new and you know for some I think I guess it's it's the country just has a short memory Dude what a crazy show this is what a crazy show we're watching The battle to control the world Yeah political theater pageantry But you know like it's just I mean like I don't want to get into like you already had Alex Jones on the show So I can't really get into that level of territory, but I mean I do agree that these parties are constantly just working together and behind the scenes and that 90 % of the issues they agree on they just make a big spectacle of the little things they actually disagree on to you know distract us with a show you look america look look at us we're fighting we're fighting right how they stop paying attention okay now we make now we do the real deals who we're going to bomb who we're going to invade you know uh who we're going to sell weapons to whatever yeah it's probably definitely some of that i mean if they're all working together if you watch house cards do you watch house cards uh i watched the first season but when he started pushing uh people in front of trains and shit i was like spoiler alert sorry this is the beginning of season two i mean if they ain't seen it whatever listen man i'm only on season three oh okay i just got into it i've been binge watching it yeah look i really like kevin spacey's performance but it just got a little over the top for me yeah all right buddy well we all have different standards i guess so i'm sorry i'm Sorry.

[553] I'm not insulting the show.

[554] Isn't that a funny thing, though, like, if someone like something and you don't like it, it gets personal.

[555] Sometimes.

[556] Yeah, like, especially, like, music.

[557] Oh, yeah.

[558] It's like, you listen to that shit.

[559] This is really shit you listen to.

[560] Like, people get mad.

[561] Right?

[562] I can get mad, like, if someone's like, you know, I really like Beyonce or something, I'll be like.

[563] You get mad?

[564] What if you got in the car and someone's playing, like, some, like, electronic.

[565] And that like, Eh, eh, uh, uh, uh, uh, You know, like, uh, like, uh, like a villain in some sort of, uh, Colin Brothers movie.

[566] Yeah.

[567] Like, like, like, Big Lebowski villain.

[568] Remember those guys?

[569] I was, you know, I was, uh, I was in an Uber the other day where someone was playing like, it sounded like fucking elevator music.

[570] Like, it was like, he was just listening to the shit you hear in fucking elevators.

[571] And it was like a 45 minute drive.

[572] And I'm just like, oh my God.

[573] I mean, I can't say anything.

[574] It's his fucking car.

[575] But this is driving to be fucking up the wall.

[576] Could you bring it up to him?

[577] You allowed to bring it up?

[578] I mean, I'm sure I'm allowed to.

[579] I mean, there's nothing that's going to happen if I bring it up.

[580] But I mean, I just don't want to have that discussion.

[581] Like, hey, can you change your music because it's horrible to me and it's grading on my last nerve right now?

[582] You're supposed to.

[583] You get control of that music with the app.

[584] Wait a minute.

[585] I'm bad at dealing with people.

[586] With the app.

[587] Yeah, with Uber app, there's a button that connects to your Spotify.

[588] So they're supposed to offer you the ox cord when you get in the car.

[589] So you can control the music, which is double annoying for the driver, I would imagine.

[590] but yeah if they're supposed to like give you control really?

[591] Yeah wow see I've never I've never taken that right so you let them just I just let them do what they do with their shitty music I mean because I mean at the end of the day they're the ones who have to drive around in this fucking car all day and I'm just getting a ride so I feel like an asshole being like no I'm gonna pose my musical taste on you because I feel like it's their car whatever well it's definitely their car it's also what's weird is why's music suck to us and it's great to some people like what is that yeah what is it about a song that you go oh that's a fucking great song and someone else will go turn that off yeah yeah i don't know it's like it it kind of reminds me of something with food like people have different food preferences and shit i always wonder like i'm eating a pickle and you know i like it other people hate pickles so when they eat a pickle does it taste different to them than it does to me or Is it the same taste, but they just don't like that taste?

[592] Yeah.

[593] And I kind of wonder the same thing about the music thing.

[594] Yeah.

[595] I think for sure.

[596] I think it's probably a visual thing too.

[597] And not visual in terms of like taking account of space and mass, but visual an account of like what each individual image does for you, like how it looks to you.

[598] Yeah.

[599] Like the overall feeling it gives you.

[600] I think it's different for everybody.

[601] It just has to be.

[602] It has to be.

[603] I mean, what else would account for all the different.

[604] tastes.

[605] Yeah.

[606] The obvious different, especially music.

[607] But then there's like taste that you vary yourself.

[608] Like you ever catch yourself in some weird mix?

[609] Like you hit iPod shuffle or something like that and you catch some weird mix of songs that you like and they're like, wow, they just do not go together.

[610] These two are just really weird back to back.

[611] Yeah.

[612] You know, going back to the food thing, like, you know, there's certain foods you might like, but maybe together they're not so great.

[613] Oh yeah, for sure.

[614] And there's certain foods you would think would not be good together but are amazing like uh pineapple and anchovies see uh i don't i don't like either of those by themselves though dude on pizza pineapple anchovy pizza oh you're one of those pineapple on pizza people huh very rarely only with anchovies i'm not a hawaiian pizza guy yeah uh i don't even think hawaians are hawaiian pizza people who's who's getting that ham and i'm a i'm a big uh if it's canadian bacon why is it a hawaiian pizza that's a real good question Question, man. That's a super good question.

[615] Why is it?

[616] And how the fuck is that bacon?

[617] It's not.

[618] If you go to Canada and say, I want some bacon, they don't bring you that shit.

[619] Yeah, that's some, yeah, what is that?

[620] It's like a Belgium waffle.

[621] Why is it from Belgium?

[622] Is it a godda, is that a waffle?

[623] The fuck is up thing is, I went to Belgium.

[624] And I got a waffle there.

[625] And it's nothing like what they fucking say.

[626] You know, Belgian waffles here, they're like round and you eat it on a plate with syrup.

[627] They give you like, it's like street food there.

[628] You get like a little tiny fork and there's like a small wall.

[629] waffle it's not even round and they put whatever the fuck you want it's not just syrup they'll put like fresh strawberries and all kinds of shit on there and you just sit there and eat it with this little tiny ridiculous fork and it's totally different than what what's called a belgian waffle in america so it's like one of those um you ever go to one of those crepe stands yeah that's in the mall you know like they make you little crepes and waffles and stuff and they put nutella on them and a bunch different toppings i would say it's probably closer to that yeah that's goddamn delicious that's way better than a belgian waffle Fuck, yeah.

[630] But a Belgian waffle is easy to do.

[631] You know, put it in that mold.

[632] Yeah.

[633] Stamp that sucker down.

[634] Pull out that waffle.

[635] T .J. and Joe Rogan talk about waffles.

[636] It's important to talk about waffles.

[637] Waffle house, one of the best road foods ever.

[638] Because you can guarantee you're going to get the same thing pretty much everywhere.

[639] No one else can do hash browns that I like other than Waffle House.

[640] They do some goddamn good hash browns.

[641] They're putting crack in those fucking hash browns.

[642] The waffles are ridiculous.

[643] They're so good.

[644] And you see so much crazy shit at Waffle Houses, too.

[645] I was at a Waffle House and the service was terrible.

[646] I was in there for like an hour and a half, but goddamn the show was amazing because the cook and the one waitress hated each other and we're fighting the entire time.

[647] And it got to the point where she runs out, she's in the parking lot crying and he's like giving me free food.

[648] Don't report this and you got free food.

[649] Oh, Jesus.

[650] It's like, all right.

[651] Thanks.

[652] Went to another Waffle House and I was a, not really a kid, but like, you know, a teenager.

[653] The guy that ran that Waffle House was a fucking psycho.

[654] The cook?

[655] He would just yell at you.

[656] He came over to my table one time and he's like, this waitress is getting off soon.

[657] I think you guys need to go.

[658] Go pay your bill and go.

[659] Whoa.

[660] I'm like, okay.

[661] I mean, this is open 24 hours, right?

[662] Like, what?

[663] He's like, no, close it out because she's got to go.

[664] I guess she wants the tip before she leaves or whatever.

[665] So that was weird.

[666] One time a drunk came in there holding a bottle of wine or something.

[667] And he was just like, no, get that out of here.

[668] That's not allowed in here.

[669] Get out.

[670] Whoa.

[671] Just like very intense all the time.

[672] I think he was like a retired cop or something that was just didn't, I don't know, didn't get his pension or some shit.

[673] So he's at a Waffle House.

[674] Maybe he spent his pension on the Waffle House to make it big.

[675] I mean, he wasn't the owner.

[676] He's just the fucking cook.

[677] Oh.

[678] Just a cook who's, like, cantankerous and angry and would yell at you and attack you.

[679] Weird food places, man. Like, weird food places you travel in and you, for a brief period of time, enter into these people's worlds and watch them interact with each other.

[680] Iron skillet.

[681] I went to this Montana diner, this really small diner outside of Billings, Montana, with a few of my friends.

[682] And we pulled into this diner, and we had just got done hunting for, five days in the mountain so we were just we were dirty and it was it was like we were tired we just been camping this whole time we just got off of a boat and this guy had a like a big piece of cardboard like four by four like four feet by four feet cardboard with photos of all these different marines that he had propped up on like an easel board and on it had all the different soldiers that had died under like obama's watch and this one particular mission and he kept pointed out like these are these are 11 of our boys that died because of this president so -called president that he's not my president not my president you know yeah he got to that weird shit and he was coming over to the table and talking to us while like while we're there eating I'll never forget that guy it was just so bizarre like you had to go yep it's terrible yep it's terrible can we eat and leave like we're stuck while this guy like hovered over us with his lecture This PowerPoint presentation.

[683] I mean, he had, like, photos of these guys up on this thing and he wanted to talk to everybody about it.

[684] Yeah, I had a weird food experience in Colorado.

[685] I drove all the way from Columbus to Seattle when I was moving because we had, like, dogs and lizards and all kinds of shit.

[686] So we just decided to drive it.

[687] And, you know, to make kind of a road trip of it, we stopped off in Colorado for, like, a couple days.

[688] to check that out because I'd never been there.

[689] We're at the hotel restaurant.

[690] The waiter we had was fucking, like, the most bipolar fucking dude in history.

[691] Because we order this, you know, fruit and meat cheese tray or whatever, meat and cheese and, you know, some other shit.

[692] And there's some nuts on it.

[693] And somehow it comes up.

[694] My girlfriend has, like, nut allergies.

[695] Oh, no. And, you know, they're not severe.

[696] They're really mild, and she just avoids it by not eating those nuts.

[697] You know, if something touches them, they're fine.

[698] But this guy, he's over there like, why didn't you tell me she had a nut allergy?

[699] And we're just kind of like, uh -huh, this is not a joke.

[700] This is a serious matter.

[701] Don't laugh.

[702] We take this very seriously here.

[703] I'm not exaggerating this fucking guy either.

[704] Like, this is, like, he's like accosting us about this shit.

[705] And he's like, I don't even know if I should bring that out.

[706] I don't even know if I should bring that out now.

[707] And we're like, just, just bring it out.

[708] She just won't eat the nuts.

[709] And she's like, she cannot have anything from the tray.

[710] You understand?

[711] Oh, God.

[712] Nothing from the tray can she.

[713] And we're like, and he kept asking like, is it airborne?

[714] Is the nut allergy airborne?

[715] Some people have an airborne nut allergy.

[716] Sure.

[717] But she doesn't.

[718] And she told him that.

[719] And he's persistent.

[720] And he wouldn't, he'd like ask it, but not wait for the answer.

[721] And then he would come back.

[722] And he'd be totally pleasant, like, so you guys on the da -da -da -da.

[723] And then he'd leave, and he'd come back again, and he'd be crazy again.

[724] Like, she held up her glass, because he's, like, refilling, and her glass is kind of far away, so she, like, you know, holds it out.

[725] And he's like, put that back on the table.

[726] Put that back on the table.

[727] It's like, what?

[728] Whoa.

[729] You're a fucking psycho.

[730] That whole city, though, was high, strong as shit.

[731] Because I remember I went to a pot shop there, and the guy at the pot shop, he was like, First of all, I had to go to a waiting room, which is just weird, and, like, take a number, and then I was called into another room when I thought I was going to be able to buy weed, but instead, it was just another waiting room.

[732] And then I finally get to the fucking little broom closet where they keep their meager supply of fucking weed.

[733] And there's this guy behind the counter, and he no shit was like, what's it?

[734] I'm like, please, what?

[735] And then we had four people with us.

[736] He proceeds to do it to everybody.

[737] So, four times in a row, what's there?

[738] I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with you?

[739] Like, I smoke weed to, like, chill out and relax and shit, but you're just like, and he's bitching about how hard his job is there, too.

[740] He's like, man, I can't wait until we get off work so we can get really high.

[741] I mean, we're already high, but we're going to get real high.

[742] That guy gets to vote, too.

[743] And then there was a, when I was leaving that fucking place, there was like a syringe, like, on the floor of the fucking weed shop.

[744] I'm like, this fucking, this Colorado weed shit is a joke.

[745] I think it's way better in Washington.

[746] You just go into a fucking store like any other store and buy it.

[747] Well, I think what they're worried about more than anything is people robbing them.

[748] Maybe.

[749] That's probably why they make you go through steps, like step one and step two.

[750] Yeah.

[751] Phased introduction.

[752] Yeah, I mean, also they can isolate you from the outside.

[753] if they have cameras, the cameras are monitoring you.

[754] It probably makes people less likely to try to attempt an armed robbery.

[755] Who knows?

[756] But you can't arm robbed any fucking place.

[757] For sure.

[758] It's not like that's exclusive to weed shops.

[759] For sure.

[760] It's just a scary thing what they're doing where they're not allowing them to use credit cards.

[761] So they keep large chunks of cash around.

[762] I think they're trying to resolve that.

[763] I don't know if they have yet.

[764] But it was a giant issue for a long time because they would have to hire these, like, like mercenaries essentially you know guys who work for like blackwater and stuff like that to those kind of guys to carry the money around or to guard the people that are carrying the money around did you hear uh jeff sessions recently yeah saying that marijuana is uh just like it's it's destructive fucking drug that is almost as bad as heroin yeah he said that to it was it today or yesterday it was either today or yesterday or yesterday Yesterday that he said it.

[765] I saw it.

[766] It's hilarious that this guy is in charge of anything Only slightly less awful was his words only slightly less awful than heroin Someone is without a doubt if that's what he's expressing someone's without a doubt Influencing that like there's there's more than just his opinion here This is not these when these these they have these meetings when they're discussing policy Or they're discussing how they proceed like this isn't as simple as this one wacky dude's opinion and they leave him alone with his opinion and he has ultimate power.

[767] There's no way.

[768] There's a bunch of vested interest.

[769] There's a bunch of people that have tremendous amount of money at stake and would lose money if marijuana was legal.

[770] That is 100 % why that guy's doing it.

[771] Sure, but I mean, his personal opinion towards weed has always been really horrible.

[772] I'm sure it's been, but you can't lie like that.

[773] Like, that's just a fucking lie.

[774] Oh, yeah.

[775] You don't have any data to show that that's even remotely true.

[776] Heroin kills fuck loads of people.

[777] People, their bodies are ravaged by.

[778] Pot doesn't do a goddamn thing to you.

[779] It might make you a little loony.

[780] Yeah, just a, I mean, like, you know, it's not even comparable.

[781] No, and if you might be, they had schizophrenia exams where they looked at all the, the population and they said, you know, marijuana contributes to schizophrenia, and they were like, well, actually no, if you look at the number, it's always 1%.

[782] And if those 1 % are smoking pot or not smoking pot, it's still, the schizophrenia numbers have always been around 1%.

[783] Yeah, I mean, look, schizophrenia can be exacerbated by marijuana.

[784] I'm sure.

[785] But it's not, it doesn't cause it.

[786] Yeah, I think, I'm not a brain scientist, nor are you, are you?

[787] You know, I had, I've dealt with schizophrenic people.

[788] You know them, right?

[789] Yeah.

[790] Yeah, I've known a few.

[791] It's, um, I think it probably varies like any other kind of mental illness.

[792] But what pisses me off, though, more than even, like, the personal angle of like, I'm a pot smoker and this affects me personally.

[793] I mean, that does get my goat a little bit, but what really pisses me off is that, uh, Trump is Mr. Jobs.

[794] Yeah.

[795] This industry, this $7 billion recreational marijuana industry is employing like 100, 150 people part time and full time that are along some rung of the ladder of like, oh, well, you know, either they're working for the growers or they're doing the packaging or they're helping with the shipping.

[796] So this is like a huge job creator.

[797] Right.

[798] It's a huge moneymaker.

[799] this is what Trump ran on.

[800] Trump's like, I'm the jobs president.

[801] I'm going to bring jobs back.

[802] If they go after this industry, that's the exact opposite of bringing jobs back.

[803] That's shutting jobs down.

[804] Yeah.

[805] Well, it's shutting jobs down, though, with the kind of people that we don't really want around the first place.

[806] I mean, they can sort of surmise that people that are running pot shops are probably pretty left wing, you know, pretty quickly.

[807] Sure.

[808] And so you're making, almost you're making more money for your.

[809] opposition whereas the pharmaceutical companies they they they're nonpartisan don't forget the alcohol industry too that's true both of them the prison unions prison guard unions that's what's really crazy you find out that prison guard unions have worked to try to keep marijuana illegally like wow like what you're really saying is we want to extract money by putting people in cages that's what you really say well that's what you get when you do a private prison industry god damn it DJ I mean I've done videos about this fucking private prison industry it's crazy and you know, I'm always surprised by just how tepid the response is.

[810] People are like, eh, yeah, whatever, you know, prisoners, who gives a shit?

[811] It's like, yeah, but what about the fact that plenty of people don't belong to be there?

[812] What about the fact that these people who run these prison industries sponsor legislation to put more people in jail in a country that already has the disproportionately highest prison population of any country on the planet while claiming to be the fucking land of the free?

[813] Yeah, we put a fuckload of people in jail.

[814] Tons.

[815] I think, what is the statistic?

[816] some bananas thing about the percentage of people that the United States puts in jail as opposed to the rest of the world but the rest of the world kills people yeah I mean look they don't bother locking you up as much yeah in some other countries they just take out in the back and fucking shoot you in the head so you know you see that mass grave they just found no they found a mass grave in Mexico really really bad one apparently they've found as many 200 as many as 250 bodies cartels or yeah Yeah.

[817] Yeah.

[818] See if you can find that, Jamie.

[819] It's a creepy story, man, because some teachers found it.

[820] They were looking for something else, and I think they just found some bones, and they started digging in.

[821] And they've only done, like, an excavation of a certain percentage of the land, too, that they're looking at.

[822] And, like, it might be as much thousands.

[823] So there could be, like, extensive mass graves throughout the entire area.

[824] Sure.

[825] They didn't know this existed.

[826] Here it is.

[827] More than 250 human skulls found in Mexico.

[828] Jesus.

[829] Yeah, mass grave containing more than 250 human skulls was uncovered in central Mexico, most likely the victim of drug cartels over the years.

[830] Oh, Jesus.

[831] Either that or one very prolific serial killer.

[832] That's a guy who's really getting shit done.

[833] Yeah, this is terrifying, man. And it's really terrifying that this massive drug war is happening to fuel the illegal drug market over here.

[834] And it's happening with a country.

[835] that's connected to us.

[836] It's right there.

[837] We have this massive issue going on, right?

[838] Yeah.

[839] And.

[840] Well, why do you think the build -a -wall rhetoric is so effective?

[841] Of course, sure.

[842] But it's just even more, well, that's like, that's like the least effective option.

[843] No, it is.

[844] It's terrible.

[845] It's just, the best option would be to make it legal and regulate everything and to let adults do whatever the fuck they want to do.

[846] And if some asshole wants to take meth, let them take meth.

[847] Let him buy meth.

[848] He can buy Adderall already.

[849] A lot of these people who are doing these crazy drugs, they're only doing it because better drugs, aren't available, they can't find them, they're too expensive.

[850] Like, if you just legalize and regulate all these markets, which we know for a fact are going to exist no matter what, because people are just going to do fucking drugs, whether it's legal or it's not legal.

[851] Do you know the only variable, the only thing that I really worry about, though, is opiates.

[852] Because I feel like if you made opiates legal, if you made them more accessible, I just know way too many people have lost their lives on them.

[853] Yeah.

[854] I know way too many people that have taken them, and then they just, the whole thing got.

[855] real slippery and they just started fucking up at work and they were on them all the time and they got real foggy I mean look we live in a country full of obese people and you know I'm I'm pretty obese that's terrible for your health probably not quite as bad as severe opiate addiction nah it's not even close but you know like it leads to a whole plethora of health problems and look I mean like we live in a either we believe that people have the freedom to make their own choices about their own bodies or we don't right and to me You know, even if there is negative repercussions, like, there's negative repercussions to being pro -second amendment.

[856] You know, we do have more gun violence because of that.

[857] I still believe in the Second Amendment.

[858] I do believe in probably more regulation for it, but...

[859] Do you just fucked up right there, son?

[860] Yeah.

[861] You just open up the gates of hell.

[862] Open the gates of hell.

[863] You think you're smarter than the founding fathers?

[864] You're fucking...

[865] Were you going to update the Second Amendment?

[866] I mean, we've already updated...

[867] Goddamn Waffle House waiter?

[868] We've already updated plenty of aspects of the Constitution.

[869] Not officially, but, you know, like the privacy clause, that's just fucking gone.

[870] Yeah.

[871] So the Fourth Amendment is just, you know, it's basically null and void at this point.

[872] I don't want anybody doing heroin, but I don't think that it should be illegal.

[873] I just, I think that stuff, I bet in certain circumstances, under severe pain, certain opiates, especially like natural opiates, probably feel wonderful.

[874] If you have, like, a severe back pain, you can't rest and you take something like that.

[875] The real problem is those fucking pills get in people's DNA, man. They get attached to you in some terrifying way.

[876] Yeah.

[877] And people get into them more than almost anything I've ever seen.

[878] And they actually are like, you know, the gateway drug thing is kind of mocked because it's attributed to weed.

[879] But those pills usually are a gateway to, you know, begin injecting.

[880] If they don't inject, I mean, they'll inject if it works just as good and that's the only way they can get it.

[881] And that's what happened with a lot of people in Massachusetts.

[882] It was one of those episodes of Anthony Bourdain's show.

[883] He was out near, I forget what area of Massachusetts, but it was all about how many people had been devastated by heroin addiction and heroin overdoses.

[884] And a lot of it came out of the Oxycontin addictions.

[885] Yeah.

[886] They got the pills really easily.

[887] And then when it became less than they started clamping down the regulations and made it harder for people to get prescriptions.

[888] Then people turned to heroin because they were addicted to opiates.

[889] Right.

[890] Right.

[891] It was just a part of who they were at that point.

[892] And, you know, the whole country right now, I mean, like, because of there's a big opiate crisis, you know, they're trying to, doctors are not writing as many of these opiate prescriptions, and they're trying to make it harder to get.

[893] So a lot of more people are turning to heroin.

[894] So now we just have a heroin crisis.

[895] Yeah, and people don't know how much to take.

[896] They're overdosing and dying.

[897] It's so spooky.

[898] And if it was regulated, you know, these same people who are already addicted to it, who are already going to say.

[899] seek it out or are already going to find it.

[900] First of all, there's no stigma so they can actually go seek fucking treatment for it.

[901] You know, it's pretty, it's pretty difficult to admit you're a heroin addict when you're scared that you might go to fucking jail just for what you do.

[902] Well, they don't use the best stuff to get people off drugs anyway.

[903] Yeah.

[904] Supposedly, the most effective, and this is not from my personal experience, but the most effective drug to get people off drugs is that Ibogaine stuff.

[905] Ibegene, which is from the abogatory.

[906] And apparently it has a massive impact on people that are addicted to heroin and pills and alcoholics and things along those lines.

[907] Apparently that stuff just fucking knocks it right out of your system.

[908] Interesting.

[909] And yeah, and like really excellent rate of people staying off of it, an excellent percentage of people stay off of it permanently, as opposed to a lot of the other methods.

[910] It's hard for people to change their ways, you know, that people get into these little patterns and they get into these habits.

[911] And if one of those habits also is physically addicting.

[912] as well like heroin is or like pills are yeah it's just really hard for people to kick that shit it's terrifying to me man yeah i mean i understand kind of because i do smoke right how much do do you smoke uh you know uh at at the worst it was probably like two packs a day oh dude that's a lot and uh i've you know now it's probably like half a pack a day that's better i've been down though to as low as like three or four cigarettes a day why it's just like limit yourself to something like that?

[913] Because the only way I can actually do it is to get my girlfriend or my brother or somebody to dole them out to me because I don't have the willpower to just say I ain't going to do it.

[914] And then it puts a lot of stress on them to have to regulate it and me fucking bothering them and I'll I'll fucking deviously just like sneak out, go to the gas station, have like another pack so I'm smoking those four but I'm also secretly smoking like another four or five off somewhere else.

[915] Well that's ridiculous.

[916] Yeah, I'm terrible.

[917] Yeah, that's not good.

[918] Absolutely awful.

[919] Do you have a problem with that type of behavior?

[920] Oh, yeah.

[921] Accept it.

[922] No, no, no. I realize when I'm doing it, like, wow, I'm a total piece of shit for doing this.

[923] You know?

[924] But is it just the moment feels so good to suck on that cigarette?

[925] No, it's really not, because it's fucking horrible.

[926] Every time I smoke a cigarette, I'm like, why am I doing this?

[927] Huh.

[928] But what happens is there's that moment before, or more than a moment, like the lead -up to smoke a cigarette is like god damn that cigarette when i get it it's gonna be so fucking good really it's gonna make me feel just fine and all this and then i start smoking i'm like man this fucking sucks and then i put you know i'll smoke it or i'll smoke half of it and put it out or whatever and then you know next thing i know 30 minutes to an hour later it's like man that next cigarette i smoke it's gonna be so fucking nice oh okay so it's the feeling before this cigarette that you the anticipation and then the immediate reward is what?

[929] The immediate reward is like disappointment.

[930] Really?

[931] It's just like this sucks.

[932] This is, this doesn't taste good.

[933] This isn't really changing my brain chemistry in a significant enough way.

[934] It looks cool though.

[935] You know what?

[936] I'm a rebel.

[937] The visual element is nice.

[938] I like seeing the smoke just fucking climb up and shit.

[939] Yeah.

[940] That big fucking little stream of smoke and it curls around and gets bigger and does all those fucking little weird acrobatics and shit.

[941] But it does put you into a certain mindset if you're acknowledging that you're doing something absolutely ridiculous that's detrimental to your health you know it is.

[942] There's no debate.

[943] There's no debate is what it's terrible for.

[944] And you're like, I'm going to fuck.

[945] It's not even I don't give a fuck though.

[946] I'm just fucking stupid.

[947] I'm just like, wow, I'm just a fucking drone for this shit.

[948] It's a little bit of that, but it's a little bit of I want this cigarette in my body right now more than I want to be healthy later.

[949] Yeah, exactly.

[950] That's true.

[951] Because you're healthy enough to smoke it.

[952] Instant gratification.

[953] Instant.

[954] You're just given a little piece of yourself to death.

[955] Just a little piece.

[956] Let me take a little piece now.

[957] Here you go, death.

[958] Yeah, you're just going to give you a little bit of my life force.

[959] You just take that, and in exchange, I'll puff on this stupid stick of leaves.

[960] How much do you put in?

[961] How much do you take out?

[962] When you're smoking cigarettes, you're greedy.

[963] You take a lot out of your account.

[964] You're just digging into your account.

[965] And all of a sudden, you know, you go to the shop and you're like, yeah, can I get this on credit?

[966] And they're like, dude, you're out of credit.

[967] Oh, it's over.

[968] Damn.

[969] You fucked up your lungs, son.

[970] You burnt them off.

[971] Yeah.

[972] That's really kind of what it is, right?

[973] I agree.

[974] I don't have any argument with that analogy.

[975] I wouldn't say stop doing it if you don't feel like you need to.

[976] You know, I'm a, I went to my fucking doctor recently and they gave me a book and I haven't read it yet, but supposedly it's going to help.

[977] Cigarettes.

[978] Mike Lacey, who owns a comedy and magic club, his wife works with people that have terminal lung cancer.

[979] Yeah.

[980] And he was explaining how they die.

[981] Yeah.

[982] And he's explaining that you're essentially, you're drowning on your own fluid and that you're gasping for air as you leave this life.

[983] Yeah.

[984] And he goes, and people are in sheer horror and terror.

[985] And he said, this is not something you ever want to do.

[986] Maybe I should visit the fucking, uh, The smokers war or some shit.

[987] Man, maybe you should.

[988] The thing is, when they go bad, they go bad away from us.

[989] They go bad.

[990] They're in those hospitals somewhere, locked up in a room, and the nurses get to see them, and they'll tell you.

[991] The nurses are the ones you talk to if you want to find out how horrible it is to watch someone die from lung cancer.

[992] Yeah.

[993] But the way Mike Lacey was explaining it to Brian Redband, but meanwhile, it went right in there and right out there and fell on the ground.

[994] Yeah, you know That could happen Or I could get hit by a bus tomorrow So I might not live forever anyway Yeah Just too much Too much a desire to get that feel And it's also It's like a rebellious attitude That goes with it I don't give a fuck about my health Why do I give a fuck about it anything?

[995] Yeah I mean I do have problems Finding like things to be passionate about Or care about But I guess in some ways I've tried to cultivate that because you know like George Carlin and shit yeah like I loved that idea of yeah I'm just I'm an observer here like I'm not going to be part of this I'm just going to look at it from the outside and be detached from it and I've trying I've kind of tried to cultivate that in myself but I've also noticed like it's kind of hard to to draw upon my own passions the more I do that so I don't know if I need to find a happier medium or what but that's interesting so in your analysis of a subject like when you're doing these YouTube videos you're almost like an outsider looking in and you you feel like there's like there's like a good strategy to that maybe or a good uh I think it's creative I try to make it I guess I try to use it as like a thing to bolster objectivity like I don't want to be just saying what the crowd wants to hear right I don't want to be uh just saying things because I think like this is going to be the most entertaining or whatever like I want it to be like here's what I really fucking think about this right right and I think you have to have like some kind of a wall of detachment because you know people aren't always going to react well to it and shit too yeah that's a really good point you almost have to be in a sort of antisocial place because if you're too social with these people you won't judge them correctly I mean like look people are very worried about um especially lately about like advertising and shit influencing uh what people do and say yeah but like people don't really realize that it's it's it's really just as much of a danger to become beholden to the audience or to the the mob and to go along with here's here's what we really want to hear from you for sure and it's like well that might be what you want to hear but that's not what I'm gonna fucking say hey tj how about you stick to this yeah exactly stick to go back to your lane what's your lane bro yeah I mean I'm sure you sound like you've experienced this as well well probably well look there are a lot of people out there in this world and if you want to get opinions from every single one of them and consider them individually without meeting any of those people to me that's shitty data okay that's not good data if i know you i've talked to you if you tell me something and you're smart guy i'll consider i'll be okay well i know tj and tj if he's saying that he wouldn't be saying if you didn't believe it so i have to think about what he's saying and I'll have to go through my head and find out whether or not I agree with them.

[996] I'd have to, you know, objectively look at it.

[997] You could be talking to a million insane people.

[998] You really, there's no way you could individually react to each one of them.

[999] But you can get a sense of whether or not people are upset at you or not.

[1000] Oh, sure.

[1001] You can get a sense or whether or not logical people make sense, like that makes sense, feel like you've crossed a line.

[1002] Look, I've noticed this really weird shift in the zeitgeist in the last, like, year or so.

[1003] and it's kind of started with this whole fake news thing you know the left was saying Trump got in because of fake news and then Trump's saying oh the all the attacks against me are fake news and I've seen on YouTube like we used to do this K -Fabe stuff on our show K -Fabe is like wrestling talk for like you know fake you know the the the pageantry of it like we're just pretending drama and shit we used to do that all the time on my show the drunken peasants podcast suddenly people turned on it.

[1004] They're like, we don't want this anymore.

[1005] And it's, you know, and I got, I got shit because I did this, uh, sponsored ad for this app called Candid.

[1006] And people are like, you know, everything you say is bullshit because you did this sponsored spot for Candid and you're fucking a shill.

[1007] So we, we dismiss you.

[1008] And it's because everyone's on this big, fucking authenticity kick.

[1009] But they're not really actually skeptical, though.

[1010] They're, they're just, they just want a demagogue to spew like, here's what you are.

[1011] think is true.

[1012] I am here to validate all of your feelings and all of your opinions.

[1013] And a lot of these people seem to want me to be that, but I'm not that.

[1014] Yeah, they're going to want you to form to whatever their opinion of you is.

[1015] And if you deviate from that, there's going to be a certain amount of people that are going to be upset.

[1016] But it's up to you to figure out like what, the worst thing I think for any performer or artist is to get boxed into like kind of a fake thing like maybe a character that you do or something along those lines and then you can't get out of it Rick James bitch yeah well like yeah like Bobcat Goldwaite had the hardest time because he had that you know that character that he would do screaming and yelling Bobcat character and then he wanted to just eventually be Bob Goldweight and people like no fuck that man where's the Bobcat thing like it took him years to get away from that Love his films, by the way.

[1017] Oh, his films are great.

[1018] Did you see the Bigfoot movie?

[1019] No. Willow Creek.

[1020] It's a fucking horror movie.

[1021] It's really good.

[1022] Is it?

[1023] He did it like a Blair Witch Project type thing of these people up there, Sasquatch hunting.

[1024] Look, I don't want to say any more about it.

[1025] I'm pretty skeptical.

[1026] I'm like a big skeptic.

[1027] I don't believe in a lot of this stuff, but I'm really fascinated by things like Bigfoot and aliens and the Loch Ness Monster and the Flat Earth and the Hollow Earth and all this stuff.

[1028] don't believe in any of it in fact I think most of it's like totally fucking ridiculous but I find it really fascinating because I kind of view it as like almost like modern mythology you know you kind of see the genesis of how people talk you know people used to talk about like succubuses coming in in the night and you know stealing their essence and shit and seducing them yeah and you kind of see like the modern versions of that is like the alien that takes you up and a ship and shoves a probe up your ass or whatever ever yeah well I think alien the alien thing absolutely has something to do with dreaming 100 % because a giant percentage of these abduction events occur when someone's either napping or when someone's sleeping it's uh it's they're always unconscious yes sleep paralysis yeah well it's not even just that it's it's probably psychedelic compound compounds that are released in the brain during REM sleep the reason why you have these wacky fucking dreams I mean you have dreams that are insane.

[1029] They'll like a psychedelic trip.

[1030] Yeah.

[1031] Like imagination has control of the psychedelic chemicals of power your brain and runs you on a trip.

[1032] I mean, that's where it feels are.

[1033] Um, I had, uh, I don't really suffer from it too bad anymore, but like in, in the, my late teens and early 20s, I had really bad sleep paralysis.

[1034] Whoa.

[1035] And, uh, also, uh, accompanying that was, uh, I forget if it's called hypnipopic hallucinations or hypnagogic hallucinations.

[1036] But, um, I could tell you, right you know like uh i'll be laying in bed or i would be at the time and um i would kind of wake up but i i wouldn't be able to move my body and then you know and and aside from that you feel the overwhelming sense of like there's another presence here and it's ominous and you fucking uh if you have the hypnagogic hallucinations or the hypnipopic hallucinations there One is when you're hallucinate as you're going into sleep.

[1037] One is when you hallucinate as you're coming out.

[1038] I have the one where you hallucinate as you're coming out of sleep.

[1039] So I would wake up and probably the first time I happened I was 11 and I saw this robed figure like walk across my bedroom.

[1040] Whoa.

[1041] And then when I was 15, did it look like a real thing?

[1042] Oh yeah.

[1043] Like it looked totally real.

[1044] It didn't look like it was transparent or anything?

[1045] No, no. It just looked like.

[1046] with a row.

[1047] Yeah.

[1048] It didn't look like a dude because it was like four feet tall.

[1049] Oh, like a gnome.

[1050] Yeah.

[1051] I mean, I, I assumed it was like, because my uncle's a big UFO guy.

[1052] So I'm like, I saw an alien.

[1053] And at the time, I was convinced to that.

[1054] Later, I became more skeptical.

[1055] And when I was like 15, I woke up and I saw this fucking figure standing at the foot of my bed.

[1056] You ever seen the movie Dark City?

[1057] Yes.

[1058] It did that sleep thing from Dark City.

[1059] And I was like, okay.

[1060] And I went.

[1061] I went back to sleep.

[1062] Holy shit, dude.

[1063] I woke up the next morning.

[1064] I'm like, if that happens again, I'm going to fucking tackle this thing.

[1065] You sure that wasn't just a dream?

[1066] I'm pretty sure I was awake because the follow, two weeks later, I saw it again, and I did, like, I planned to do.

[1067] I fucking jumped up, and I tried to tackle it.

[1068] And it was, it just kind of disappeared in my arms when I got to it.

[1069] Dude.

[1070] And I was like, okay, well, that was, okay.

[1071] I was relieved, because I'm like, it was obviously a hallucination.

[1072] And I look up, and its fucking head is floating there.

[1073] And it just then this head vanishes Whoa But these are just hallucinations I mean Maybe Or maybe your fucking house is haunted son They're not interdimensional beings How do you know?

[1074] You sound so confident I've read pretty extensively about it Because like when that shit happens to you You want to know like what's going on here So when that shit happens And actually they can induce that state You know like They can put you into sleep paralysis And you'll feel the presence And you'll experience seeing things and all that stuff.

[1075] They can put you in that mindset.

[1076] It's a matter of electrically stimulating certain areas of the scalp, right?

[1077] Yeah.

[1078] Which is really fascinating, isn't it?

[1079] That they can actually target areas of the scalp and induce certain feelings and certain thoughts.

[1080] Yeah, we kind of delved into this last time we talked.

[1081] Yeah.

[1082] Yeah.

[1083] Consciousness and the afterlife and things of that nature.

[1084] I wonder, though, like, what would cause you to recall, like, an image from a really fucking cool movie like that and have it be, like, What weird combinations of things would cause, you know, like, when I was, something causes a hallucination to take a certain form?

[1085] Like, what is it?

[1086] Is it your insecurities and fears?

[1087] Is your, your, your, your nightmarish vision?

[1088] It's probably the same thing that leads you to have certain visions and dreams and things.

[1089] I mean, like, it's part of your memory and psychology, just manifest and imagination as well.

[1090] Yeah.

[1091] Like, there was a guy, I was reading about his experiences, and he would see the guy from the front of the Exorcist poster standing his room.

[1092] We'd see that silhouette holding the briefcase and shit and looking up at the building.

[1093] Dude, when I was a kid, that movie was fucking terrifying.

[1094] Like, if you could watch it today and never fully impact what it did to people like me, what year is that?

[1095] I want to say it was like 76.

[1096] Does that make sense?

[1097] Which means I was like nine years old.

[1098] Find out what year the Exorcist was.

[1099] What year was that?

[1100] I remember seeing the 25th anniversary, 73 is when I came out.

[1101] So I was younger than that.

[1102] Who the fuck let me watch that?

[1103] That was ridiculous, Mom.

[1104] Mom, how dare you?

[1105] But I remember being scared out of my fucking mind at this movie.

[1106] Yeah, there's the image right there.

[1107] That movie fucked with my head for years.

[1108] And I started thinking about demons and the idea of being possessed and what could happen.

[1109] Yeah.

[1110] You watch it today.

[1111] You'll laugh your ass off.

[1112] Oh, yeah.

[1113] I was watching that movie at my uncle's house and my mom came in the room.

[1114] And she's, like, really easily frightened and stuff.

[1115] And she just thought it was hilarious.

[1116] The Exorcist is hilarious.

[1117] I mean, it's funny by today's standard.

[1118] But, like, if you go watch it in the context, like, watch horror movies that came around around the same time and before it.

[1119] And it's like, okay, you can kind of see why this blew people's minds at the time.

[1120] Well, when it happened, when that movie came out, there had never been anything, like, on that level where a little cute little girl had becomes a demon and starts ramming across into her pussy.

[1121] Yeah.

[1122] Just fuck me father.

[1123] Fuck me father.

[1124] Slamming.

[1125] Was she saying fuck me Jesus?

[1126] What did she say?

[1127] I think she was just saying fuck me. I don't remember what she's saying.

[1128] Fuck me. Oh, Jesus Christ.

[1129] I like what she's like your mother sucks cocks in hell.

[1130] Yeah.

[1131] It was a beautiful moment in cinematic history.

[1132] I couldn't believe that that was actually in a movie that they said that in a movie.

[1133] Yeah, I mean like they would have trouble getting away with that fucking now.

[1134] Yeah.

[1135] Just given the age of the actress.

[1136] Oh, they wouldn't be allowed to.

[1137] It would be illegal now.

[1138] It would be illegal.

[1139] I mean, I don't know.

[1140] It didn't, it didn't, like, show anything.

[1141] But, yeah, it would probably be controversial, even if it was made.

[1142] Just making that little kid act like that.

[1143] Yeah.

[1144] Like, look at those pictures of her, like, when she was screaming and yelling.

[1145] First of all, that little kid was fucking terrifyingly good.

[1146] Oh, yeah.

[1147] And, you know, they, she was, they didn't, like, have much, well, like, care for her well -being or anything either.

[1148] Because, like, you know, that scene where she's spasming and flopping up and down.

[1149] They were doing that with wires.

[1150] and that fucked her back up for life.

[1151] Really?

[1152] Yeah.

[1153] Oh, man. Total disregard for her safety or well -being.

[1154] That fucked her back up for life when she was a little kid making his movie?

[1155] Yep.

[1156] Wow.

[1157] Like, what did it do to her back?

[1158] Do you know specifically?

[1159] I don't know.

[1160] It just gave her back issues.

[1161] I don't know if they were severe or what, but something got pulled or something got out of alignment.

[1162] Wow.

[1163] I mean, you saw how violently they had her flopping up and down on that bed.

[1164] Yeah, that's not good.

[1165] So, you know, the standards were different, I guess, at the time.

[1166] But I think most people should realize don't permanently injure a child just to get an effect you want in a movie.

[1167] My kids are watching this TV show.

[1168] It's like an old Disney show called Good Luck Charlie.

[1169] Yeah.

[1170] And Charlie's a little baby.

[1171] It's a baby baby.

[1172] It's the cutest little baby.

[1173] But it's a baby.

[1174] Yeah.

[1175] Like maybe a year old or maybe two at the most.

[1176] Like it's tiny little thing.

[1177] And that's the being character.

[1178] like you imagine like not only do you not get to choose whether or not you want to be famous want to be an actor because you're a fucking baby you can't even talk yet you're already on TV but the whole show's about you so you can't quit yeah and you know I was wondering like it when I'm watching movies like you see babies like crying and stuff and you know like how they make that baby cry they bite them does it seem ethical it doesn't really seem ethical it's definitely not ethical it's fucked up man like that's why when people are like uh made of that American Sniper movie for using that little shitty plastic baby that was obviously fake.

[1179] I'm like, whatever.

[1180] It's better than fucking having some real kid and getting it to cry and stuff and whatever.

[1181] I blame Clint Eastwood on that.

[1182] Like, you should have framed that better.

[1183] Just frame away from that.

[1184] You could have sold it better.

[1185] Yeah, you could have filmed that in a different way.

[1186] He films a lot of times in a very sort of traditional way.

[1187] He's a great director and everything like that.

[1188] But how the hell did he not see that rubber baby?

[1189] That looks so fake.

[1190] He's pretty old, you know, give him a little...

[1191] I guess, but doesn't he have somebody there with him in the editing room?

[1192] Going, um, sir, you sweat off.

[1193] That's a rubber baby.

[1194] It's pretty obvious.

[1195] Who's going to tell Dirty Harry that the scene doesn't work, dude?

[1196] I know.

[1197] I know.

[1198] I get it.

[1199] Remember when, uh, that whole movie was very...

[1200] That was a weird time when that movie came out.

[1201] That was like a movie where you had to say you liked it.

[1202] If you didn't say you liked it, you risked violence.

[1203] I just, I just said, uh, didn't see it, so.

[1204] I saw it.

[1205] I've seen it since then, but at the time.

[1206] I didn't watch it.

[1207] It just wasn't a very good movie.

[1208] No. A lot of people loved the movie, and to them it was really good.

[1209] To me, it was, there was like so much, and this is probably my personal bias of like being out here and being in Hollywood and knowing how writers work and knowing how, you know, like they've structured these things and how this, what kind of effect the studio wants to have on the audience for a big mainstream movie, you could feel like the heavy hand of Hollywood all over it.

[1210] Oh, yeah.

[1211] And you could feel like the way they were the wording, the things that he said, and just the whole thing was, like, so affected.

[1212] It's like, I'm not getting a good sense of what this guy's real life was like.

[1213] It was propaganda.

[1214] Yeah.

[1215] And then, you know, and then you find out about the Jesse Ventura thing where Jesse Ventura sued him because he made up some story about beating him up.

[1216] And apparently there was a few other stories that weren't true as well that were in that book.

[1217] That fucked Jesse Ventura's career up a little bit.

[1218] Still does.

[1219] He was just on.

[1220] He was talking about it.

[1221] It cost him over a million dollars in legal fees.

[1222] Yeah.

[1223] And he's been doing it for, what, four years now?

[1224] He got a judgment in his favor, but then they, they shiftily took it away somehow.

[1225] I forget the exact.

[1226] He lost an appeal.

[1227] Yeah.

[1228] It's not good.

[1229] The whole thing's not good.

[1230] Because he's a hero.

[1231] Well, it's really, it's a, you know, truth is truth.

[1232] And you can't just make stuff up about people.

[1233] And, you know, maybe he should have dropped the lawsuit when the guy.

[1234] died.

[1235] You know, maybe that would have been better for everybody.

[1236] But that's his decision.

[1237] He felt like he was wronged and he felt like he was going after the publishers.

[1238] When the legend becomes truth, print the legend.

[1239] Yeah.

[1240] But it's just, I think also you're dealing with the pressures of war being so alien to most people that when you and I, who have not been to war, sit around talking and debating about what it's like to be like the most decorated sniper ever.

[1241] or a guy who experiences that much action and sees that much death and really try to rationalize what goes in and out of their mind and like what their grasp on reality is like and then there's also the opportunity that this guy has if you're leaving the military and writing a book why not just make a bunch of crazy shit up and make it even better to sell more fucking books you know i mean it's very possible that someone would take that attitude like look i'm not going to tell you most of the truth anyway because it's not of your business and it's not of your business Some of it might be classified and some of it might be illegal for me to talk about.

[1242] But maybe I make up a bunch of crazy shit.

[1243] Sell some books.

[1244] Now I'm going to selling me stage my life.

[1245] Yeah, you know, and look, he was probably always doing that to some extent, you know, because, you know, you don't become the top American sniper unless you already have a preconceived notion of yourself as like, I'm this badass and I'm this great warrior and anything you can say to add to that you're going to say.

[1246] Well, I think maybe.

[1247] Or maybe you could just be a badass sniper, right?

[1248] Couldn't you just be just some dude who just excels?

[1249] Well, I mean, but you look at his character and the sort of stories that he's made up and shit.

[1250] And it's obvious that, you know, while he did have actual skills, he was also fond of embellishing the skills he did have to make himself even more legendary.

[1251] Yeah.

[1252] And why is the question, you know, because there are people that think that the horrors of war, like we talked about, bend the mind and bend perception and bend the way you look at reality.

[1253] in some people more severe ways than other people.

[1254] Sure.

[1255] It's a, the request or the task that we give young people where they go off to war at fucking 18 years of age, and we ship them off, get them to shoot people, and then come back and integrate and try to be a normal part of society.

[1256] And then with almost no education, almost no assistance, no help, no carrying them along, No, you know, you should be looking at them and talking them very carefully.

[1257] You've asked them to do a crazy thing.

[1258] Yeah, I mean, especially at the, you know, like 18 is around the time when I was just willing to dump, like, pancakes on some dude's lap because he fucking, you know, set a cross thing to me. So to take people at that age and mindset who haven't even really, I mean, I guess they've kind of reached the age of reason and stuff in the eyes of society, but, you know, they're not like fully formed adult.

[1259] minds yet it's like hey you're you're pretty much still a kid in a lot of ways go overseas and kill some other people's uh fucking kids let's just see what happens yeah let's try over there and blow some brains out oh you blew out more brains than anyone else you're a hero you're great that's a weird way of looking at it but that's that's what it is yeah you know when you're asking someone to do something before they're a certain age like you're you have a certain amount of authority over a 17 year old or an 18 year old when you give him a gun and tell them that they're supposed to do it they believe they're supposed to do it because you're older and you tell them that they're supposed to do it so the reason why 40 year old guys don't sign up for the army because when a guy's 40 might have a family of his own might have a life of his own he's like wait wait wait wait wait why the fuck we going over there what are these guys done to us hold on hold on when are we charging at dawn okay what's the plan like you're going to ask questions so not going to just trust you at face value and that's no good.

[1260] It's terrible.

[1261] When you want soldiers, you want someone who just listens.

[1262] Yeah.

[1263] Who are you listening to, though?

[1264] Like, who are you listening to and why you listen to that guy?

[1265] And what, how did you get into this situation?

[1266] Well, they don't think about that.

[1267] They're fucking 18.

[1268] It's just asking people to go from that to regular life.

[1269] It's such a bizarre request.

[1270] Yeah, my stepdad tried to get me to join the, uh, the military when I was younger because he's like, he saw me and like, your life has no direction.

[1271] You know what you need?

[1272] Military.

[1273] I thought about doing it.

[1274] I didn't really give it much thought.

[1275] I went to the recruiting office and let them give me a sales pitch.

[1276] Did you?

[1277] Yeah.

[1278] Oh, so you went that far.

[1279] I never went into a recruiting office.

[1280] Thank God.

[1281] I took a little aptitude test and they're like, you could be, you know, military intelligence.

[1282] I'm like, eh.

[1283] But I heard that a lot of times they sucker you in with that, like you're going to be military intelligence, but then if you don't cut it there, like, well, you didn't cut it.

[1284] You're a grunt now.

[1285] Yeah, I have heard that.

[1286] I've heard that recruiters will bullshit you and, you know, tell you they're going to get you some cool job inside the military and then once you get in there they give you to a fuck the job they were thinking about giving you in the first place you know yeah they don't it's not like a college where you you know yeah you get to choose your major and all this yeah there's none of that no they'll decide in many ways it's like it's it's sort of communist in a way you know you get paid very little you work very hard everything is for company yeah you know it's really kind of weird yeah well america has a a strange relationship with that sort of collectivism when you think about it that way like it has to probably be that way in order for you to function together as soldiers in war yeah i mean i don't think you i don't think you really want a unit where everyone's constantly questioning orders and you know like no i mean as much as we we kind of place value on that like you know it's good to think for yourself and it's good to question things um if you're trying to be an effective military it's it's that's not what's good what's good is you do what you're fucking told exactly so that's probably why they use 18 year olds to begin with but The problem is, you know, even if we're going to accept the reality that that's how it has to be, there has to be more oversight about where are we going to send these people, what reasons have to be in place for us to send these people.

[1287] And, you know, we're still in Iraq.

[1288] We're still in Afghanistan.

[1289] Obama, during his presidency, bombed seven countries with drone strikes.

[1290] By the way, I don't know if you've ever seen the report that, like, 90 % of drone strikes didn't kill their intended targets.

[1291] Yeah, 90 % civilian casualties.

[1292] Yeah, you know, so terribly ineffectual, like, why, our country is, like, spreading bad will across the world, especially in the Middle East, which is, like, a hotbed of fucking crazy fucks anyway.

[1293] Just doing it that way in general, robots flying from the sky, like, you got to, you got to make sure those things work.

[1294] Like, if you get to just, you can't be that off where you're killing, I mean, it was in the high 80%, wasn't it last time we checked?

[1295] what the civilian casualty rate was, unintended casualties for drone strikes.

[1296] Yeah, you know, like, if you have any weapon that has like 10 % effectiveness at killing its target, you know, like that's not a good weapon, that's a piece of shit.

[1297] It's just, but we're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, but listen, this way we don't have to send soldiers and we just fly it in and we just shoot the missiles and we get the fuck out of there.

[1298] Like, that's really what they're saying.

[1299] I mean, I can see the appeal of that, but make sure the technology is there.

[1300] In a way, it might be like the most racist way to kill people.

[1301] Yeah.

[1302] We're not even willing to risk our own lives to kill you.

[1303] We're just going to kill you from afar.

[1304] And we're not as concerned about killing civilians because no one's there doing it because we're all the way in Nevada with a fucking Xbox controller.

[1305] Yeah.

[1306] And everyone we're killing is just some brown Muslim people, so it's okay.

[1307] Okay.

[1308] Nearly 90 % of the people killed in airstrikes were not the intended targets.

[1309] You know, and some of these still might have been bad people.

[1310] I mean, they're hanging around with fucking, you know, terrorists and shit.

[1311] Some of them were.

[1312] I mean, we saw in the Yemen raid that plenty of those victims were kids.

[1313] Is there footage of a drone, like watching a drone shoot down something?

[1314] Is there?

[1315] I want to see what it looks like.

[1316] See if you could pull up a video.

[1317] Is it from the drone's point of view, or is it people seeing the drone?

[1318] Usually you'll see it from the drone perspective.

[1319] I would like to see what it looks like.

[1320] Like a drone launch something.

[1321] If you were on the ground, you saw a drone, launched something in the distance.

[1322] Here we go.

[1323] Just, yeah.

[1324] Yeah, that's what it usually is.

[1325] Like, so dehumanized.

[1326] Boom, boom, boom.

[1327] You're dead.

[1328] Insane, too.

[1329] I mean, the way it takes people out.

[1330] Just some dudes walking down the street.

[1331] And then they empty into that.

[1332] Look at that.

[1333] I got he's moved.

[1334] Oh, my God.

[1335] You imagine that?

[1336] Just walking down the street.

[1337] Do -da -do -do -do.

[1338] Boom, you're dead.

[1339] Fucking fireball of death consumes you.

[1340] instantly oh man incinerated off the face of the fucking earth well that WikiLeaks one the first one yeah you see I'm trying to get away and shit collateral murder remember they called collateral murder yeah put that video out and you get to see like how they're reacting to gunning these people down the street and they find out it's the wrong people yeah it's like whoops yeah like wow and that this got out and it shouldn't have gotten out.

[1341] You know, that's the, that was the big WikiLeaks rub, right?

[1342] They shouldn't have released that.

[1343] We shouldn't know.

[1344] Yeah, we shouldn't know when our tax dollars fund the murder of civilians.

[1345] The accidental unintended murder of a guy with a camera that you thought was a gun.

[1346] Yeah, but when you see the statistic that 90 % of these strikes are killing the wrong people, I mean, you know, I mean, like, it's happening all the time.

[1347] But isn't it crazy how shit their optics are that they can't tell the difference between a rifle and a camera at distance?

[1348] Yeah, and it's not even just the optics, too.

[1349] It's just bad intelligence.

[1350] Like, they'll just, because they don't have to actually risk any troops, they'll just be like, someone says like, yeah, I think he's at this house.

[1351] Oh, okay.

[1352] Boom, boom, boom.

[1353] Yeah, that's true, right?

[1354] If they were on the ground, they wouldn't treat it that way.

[1355] If they were on the ground, then we saw people on the ground.

[1356] They were walking down the street and they saw the photographer with the camera.

[1357] they probably wouldn't treat it.

[1358] There's no way they would just open fire and gun everybody down as soon as they saw the people.

[1359] Yeah.

[1360] So you just gun everybody down that you run into on your way to the bad guys, the suspected bad guys?

[1361] But when you have that level of detachment where it's like, oh, this is like a fucking video game.

[1362] Oops, I killed some civilians.

[1363] Okay, we'll deduct some points from the scoreboard.

[1364] Yeah, because if you were on the ground and the same thing happened, wouldn't you be judged differently?

[1365] Like, if you were on the ground and you were moving down the street and you saw a bunch of people in front of you and one guy had a camera and you just gunned them all down the women the kids everybody in front of them yeah and you're like well you know hey they shouldn't have been out here with their kids and uh i didn't think that was a camera well that's essentially is that exactly what the guy said from the helicopter right yeah but it's different it's different because there's a level of detachment there's that wall of separation that wall of separation is kind of fucked oh it's terrible it's scary 90 % 90 so let's just keep doing it that way then for sure well we're going to there's nothing we can do about it uh look this what i'm when i'm when i talk about when i talk about the collusion between the democrats and the republicans this is the kind of shit i'm talking about this doesn't stop military stuff yeah like yeah this stuff doesn't seem to stop whether it's d or r right this military this american empire that we're trying to maintain across the globe that keeps happening that's actually a very good point because that stays consistent and then the battle over transgender bathroom take front page of the news and then but the war aspect of it stays consistent the drone aspect stays consistent if it doesn't ramp up and it looks like it's ramping up a little bit with Trump right maybe I think that remains to be seen yeah does it Obama's been pretty Obama was pretty bad about it I mean for sure he was extremely violent drone strikes increased under him now some of that's just because the technology improved well there's a lot of things about him that were so confusing the drone strikes is just one of them how about the attacks on whistleblower Like whatever happened to what you said in in your shit like you had that hope and change website like the whole thing was gonna you're gonna offer protection to whistleblowers Well, you have like one of the biggest whistleblowers in the history of the world Yeah the idea of transparency too that was like a big thing he yeah transparency transparency transparency but then you prosecute whistleblowers who revealed the legal activities of the government That's why when Trump was like he wire tapped Trump Tower.

[1366] I'm like so what he wiretapped America the NSA was right and still a Liz, like just gathering everyone's text messages, everyone's phone calls, archiving that shit in a big server somewhere.

[1367] So hasn't he walked that back, though?

[1368] Hasn't he said now that he doesn't think that it was a wiretap, that it was like something else?

[1369] Yeah, sure.

[1370] But I mean, like, the point is that all the phones are fucking tapped now.

[1371] Of course.

[1372] So what does it matter?

[1373] Yeah.

[1374] That information's already there.

[1375] And, you know, the crazy thing is that not only is it there for those agencies, but it's there for anyone who can hack into those agencies to get.

[1376] And you know, if the CIA, the NSA developed it, the CIA, we now know, has its own version of it.

[1377] I wonder how many private companies have their own version of this fucking server.

[1378] Yeah, when we found out that the CIA has their own version of it, but it was like, what?

[1379] Them two?

[1380] Dun, da, damn.

[1381] Well, they're even worse than the NSA.

[1382] How do you know?

[1383] Well, I mean, I guess I can't say with certainty they're worse, but the NSA's never been involved as far as I know.

[1384] in toppling the democratically elected leaders of other countries and installing puppets that are good for American business interests.

[1385] The CIA has?

[1386] Yes.

[1387] Numerous times.

[1388] Yeah, the idea of them all being able to listen to anybody's telephone calls, regardless of whether or not you're a terrorist, regardless of whether or not you're a felon, regardless of whether or not you're the nicest person of all time.

[1389] They're like, yep, let me just check.

[1390] Yep, you're still the nicest guy of all time.

[1391] Yeah, and they're using it for, I mean, it's not just being used for terrorism.

[1392] I mean, they're using it for their drug war as well.

[1393] Yeah, yeah.

[1394] Well, it's, the drug war is going to have to ramp up if this marijuana legalization keeps kicking in.

[1395] They're going to have to figure out some other way to arrest people.

[1396] They have to keep the same jobs.

[1397] I mean, they have a lot of jobs.

[1398] They're going to have to justify.

[1399] I mean, Jeff Sessions could come to the pot shops like where I live, and I guess there's pot shops around here, too.

[1400] And they could fucking raid them.

[1401] They could shut them down.

[1402] Yeah, they could.

[1403] legally.

[1404] Yeah, because it's still illegal under federal law.

[1405] Obama chose not to do that.

[1406] He chose to respect the will of the states, but the Trump administration is at least signaling that it's not going to.

[1407] Because of Sessions, you think, because of appointing him?

[1408] I don't think it's just because of Sessions.

[1409] I think Sessions is where he is partially because they want to do this crackdown.

[1410] That's interesting.

[1411] You might be right.

[1412] We'll have to find out about that, but the crackdown is not going to go well.

[1413] It's a terrible idea.

[1414] You let the genie out of the bottle.

[1415] You gave people their freedom.

[1416] That will be the death of the power of the Trump administration if they actually go through with something so stupid.

[1417] It would be stupid economically as well.

[1418] Oh yeah.

[1419] It would show, I mean, you want to talk about transparency.

[1420] It'll show really clearly who your loyalty is to.

[1421] That it's not to the will of the people, that it's to these companies that are benefiting from keeping marijuana illegal, period.

[1422] That's it.

[1423] And then we'd have to figure out a marijuana coalition.

[1424] We've got to figure out a way, like, there are fucking a hundred million of us, I guarantee you in this country, a hundred million people that smoke pot.

[1425] That's a lot of fucking people and that number's going to grow.

[1426] It's a third of the country.

[1427] Yeah, and it's going to grow, the more things are, people like, I can't believe Robben really believe the 100 million people's smoked pot.

[1428] You fucking idiot.

[1429] You fucking waste product pot.

[1430] There's a lot of fucking people.

[1431] I might have made that number up.

[1432] I just would say I did.

[1433] I fucking, I mean, I believe it.

[1434] I believe it's probably at least close because even when I was living down south and I was hanging out with conservatives who love Trump, they smoked a little weed.

[1435] Yeah, they're smoking weed.

[1436] Yeah.

[1437] Not a little weed.

[1438] They're smoking weed like crazy.

[1439] It's fun.

[1440] It's fun to get high.

[1441] It's nothing wrong with it.

[1442] The only thing that's wrong with it is the fact that it's been buttoned down into our brain deep, deep in our memory through propaganda that it's bad for you.

[1443] That's it.

[1444] Yeah.

[1445] If you looked at the actual effects it has on you, like we were talking about schizophrenics and blaming marijuana on schizophrenia, but it still seems across the board to be 1%.

[1446] It's the same thing with dummies and lazy people When dummies and lazy people find out about pot It ruins the idea of it for other people They're, oh, well look, it's associated with this loudmouth dummy His loud mouth fucking lazy person Never gets anything done, he's always broke, he's always asking for money That's a pot head.

[1447] Potheads don't get shit done, don't be a pot head And then you get that in your head and you're just run with it Well, there's plenty of potheads that are really industrious and hard work And it's, you know, a lot of them You can't attribute something that was always part of someone's personality and say, well, marijuana caused that.

[1448] Exactly.

[1449] It doesn't totally change the nature of a person.

[1450] It's not that powerful of a fucking drug.

[1451] Nor does coffee.

[1452] No. Nor does alcohol.

[1453] Nor do cigarettes for that matter.

[1454] Exactly.

[1455] Well, alcohol can change some people.

[1456] That's true.

[1457] It was a bad example.

[1458] Canada's justice system is crumbling, and as cannabis raids continue.

[1459] So, they've been busting all these fucking pot places.

[1460] I thought you guys had your social justice warrior president, and everybody was going to get to pick their own gender pronouns.

[1461] And now you're a raiding pot places.

[1462] Okay, look at this.

[1463] 6 ,500 cases in provincial court could be soon dropped due to delays, including 38 for homicide or attempted murder.

[1464] One terrible case last year, a man named Kenneth Williamson was convicted of raping a minor over 100 times, but because of lengthy delays in taking his case to trial, his conviction was overturned.

[1465] Wait, is that so they could prosecute more marijuana?

[1466] No, this is just saying, that they are, their, their system is in such crisis and this marijuana case where they're arresting all these people for marijuana, it's insane because their justice system is already in the crisis.

[1467] So it says, considering the justice system crisis, cannabis should obviously be the lowest priority for police and the courts, but it's not.

[1468] Not only are police launching more raids against suspensaries than ever before, but ridiculous charges for small -scale cannabis crimes are continuing.

[1469] From coast to coast.

[1470] So they have a justice system that's so broken that they can't even convict people who raped minors a hundred times.

[1471] They can't take them to trial.

[1472] I mean, they're...

[1473] But it's that broken, but they're still trying to fucking catch people for smoking weed and just raiding dispensaries and shit like that?

[1474] What a waste of fucking time.

[1475] If I had a guess, I would say it's some sort of compartmentalism in that like the drug people aren't, they don't go after the other crimes and they don't have to.

[1476] do with it, you know, and then there's a legal system that's backed up, but to put more people into the legal system just because you have to somehow or another justify the position that you're in, a cop, of a DEA cop, whatever they're called up there, that's fucking crazy.

[1477] You've got a broken system.

[1478] You're praying on people.

[1479] You're locking people up putting in a cave.

[1480] If you want to impress us, then convict that fucking rapist.

[1481] Don't, don't fucking prosecute people who are smoking weed.

[1482] For sure.

[1483] And by By the way, what you're doing right now seems like a crime.

[1484] You're locking people up in a cage for a plant that everybody on the planet knows is not bad for you.

[1485] So if you just decide that because of some fucking bullshit thing that's written on paper, that you should be able to go against all the science that's available today, all the common sense and the will of the people, and you should be able to go into people's houses, go into people's businesses, arrest them, take all their money, take all their pot.

[1486] That's a crime.

[1487] That sounds like a crime.

[1488] It sounds like you're using your position and you're using it to just mark one up on the scoreboard.

[1489] You know, we got some convictions today, good, solid ones.

[1490] A bunch of dopers.

[1491] Caught us a bunch of dopers.

[1492] Had to let that crazed pedophile go.

[1493] But we got all the dope heads.

[1494] Got them all.

[1495] The real scourge of society.

[1496] That guy fucked 100 kids, but you know what he didn't?

[1497] He didn't fuck them over by giving a pot.

[1498] Yeah.

[1499] At least he wasn't smoking no weed.

[1500] Because those kids are going to remember what he did to them.

[1501] It's not going to damage their memory.

[1502] Yeah.

[1503] Like that goddamn part.

[1504] They're going to remember it.

[1505] They're going to remember it explicitly.

[1506] Jesus Christ.

[1507] It's just I can't believe that in this day and age, that shit is still going on.

[1508] It just seems like, and Canada, I thought with this Trudeau guy was going to be more progressive than ever, which Canadians are complaining about it like crazy.

[1509] And, you know, I've had Jordan Peterson on the podcast.

[1510] And he hates what's going on now with this push towards being like as open mind.

[1511] minded as possible with all these accepting of the gender pronouns and that you're going to have to start putting people, you're going to have to start processing cases through the Human Rights Council because if you don't use a person's proper gender pronoun, it could literally be considered a crime.

[1512] I think all that stuff on the left when it goes way far.

[1513] It gets really crazy, but it's probably a good thing to balance out the stuff on the right.

[1514] And people figure out some sort of comfortable medium.

[1515] But he's not being that at all.

[1516] he's not if he if the president is allowing this to go on he's not being this progressive president he's just not if he's only going to be progressive towards transgender pronouns and whatever other ridiculous laws that they're swamped with this is this is just a terrible precedent to set allowing them to lock people up for pot in 2017 is a fucking criminal waste of resources yeah a criminal waste of manpower a criminal a criminal a criminal a Criminal intrusion on the freedom of those people that you're locking up.

[1517] Criminal on the disruption that you're putting into their lives and the money that you're taking away from them for trading.

[1518] And out of your economy as well.

[1519] Yes, and fucking your economy up.

[1520] And these people are trading in something that is very valuable to the community and to the human beings that consume it.

[1521] Yeah, you know, I'm a, I consider myself probably more liberal than I am conservative.

[1522] but when I see the priorities of liberals being identity politics, shit, gender pronouns and stuff, and then so much of the real issues, like, just get ignored like this.

[1523] Yeah.

[1524] That makes me hesitant to even say, like, I'm a liberal or I'm more left -wing than right -wing or whatever because I'm just like your priorities are totally fucked.

[1525] They're totally out of order.

[1526] You know, apparently in Canada, they're fighting all these fucking politically correct.

[1527] identity politics battles but they can't deal with the the pot issue they're gonna their police raids against pot dispensaries are actually up and they're trying to charge people with petty fucking weed smoking crimes and this is a thing that people always go on about like it's because it's pot it seems like it's not a big issue it's like it's not we got bigger fish to fry yeah well you know T. T .J. Okay I don't know if you've been paying attention to the stock market okay T. T .J. Do you know about the war in Afghanistan T. Yeah.

[1528] Okay.

[1529] We got problems.

[1530] Real problems.

[1531] This fucking pot thing.

[1532] You goddamn pot heads.

[1533] If it's not for your pot, oh, why do I do it?

[1534] But it's not that.

[1535] And this is what people have to realize.

[1536] It's about personal freedom.

[1537] It's about a person telling you what you can't do and enforcing it to the point of putting you in a fucking cage.

[1538] And that thing, which had been an accepted part of civilization for thousands of years and is today accepted.

[1539] It's an accepted part of civilization right now.

[1540] But there's just these people that don't engage in it, that don't understand it, and that feel like they have the right to go and lock people up for it.

[1541] You know, when the Trump administration started signaling that they were going to take on weed or that they were thinking about it, at least, that it was on the table.

[1542] So stupid.

[1543] At that point, I made a video where I was basically, it was like making all the cases why this is terrible.

[1544] This is a bad idea.

[1545] You know, I made the economics argument.

[1546] I made the personal freedom argument I made you know I pointed out the tremendous amount of revenue this is generating for the states that have legalized it and a huge part of the response was just like yeah oh yeah of course he goes after Trump when Trump goes after his precious weed yeah that's when he cares that's the only thing that got him to care it's like fucking junkie I made fucking so many cogent arguments that hold water about the economic and personal liberty ramifications of something like this.

[1547] And all you want to focus on is my personal usage of this fucking substance.

[1548] It's bullshit.

[1549] You bet it's a good thing to talk about because it'll get you talking about it like right now.

[1550] Sure.

[1551] It'll get you.

[1552] It'll poke at you.

[1553] They know.

[1554] Because they know that people like you and I really do enjoy our marijuana.

[1555] And when you try to take away the pot, we really do get upset.

[1556] Yeah.

[1557] I mean, it was like kind of the, like, I was kind of like on the give Trump a chance bandwagon until they started signaling this stuff.

[1558] So that's really why I got shit.

[1559] It's a very, very foolish thing to try to step in in 2017 with all the science and all the information and the public opinion and to say that marijuana is something that can get you locked up, get you locked up.

[1560] But it's almost as bad as heroin for fuck's sake.

[1561] He's so stupid.

[1562] That's a silly man. That guy needs a pot brownie more than anything in this life.

[1563] He just needs just a quarter.

[1564] Just give him a quarter.

[1565] Let him sit there and let him think about his grandchildren.

[1566] Let him think about fishing and let him think about just napping in the sun.

[1567] and going to meet the good Lord in a few years.

[1568] You don't have much time left, motherfucker.

[1569] You want to ruin it for potheads?

[1570] You're barely alive.

[1571] Your hair's white.

[1572] Your posture's bad, and you're standing there lying.

[1573] You're lying on television about heroin and pot being like really close.

[1574] That's a crazy person who doesn't know what pot does.

[1575] You're talking about pot.

[1576] You obviously have no idea what it's like.

[1577] It's like a person who's colorblind describing some sort of a kaleidoscope.

[1578] You don't know what you're even talking about.

[1579] Like, for a guy like him, if you want to have, a person who's talking about individual experiences.

[1580] They should have had, like if you're talking about someone who's talking about the effects of a chemical and whether or not it should be legal, they should have had some sort of experience with that chemical.

[1581] They should know what it's doing.

[1582] They should understand it, especially if it's safe, something like marijuana.

[1583] So for you to talk about it and to have these ridiculous, you can't invest one evening in a safe environment.

[1584] They'll do it in a laboratory or a hospital somewhere, pat up the rooms, and give you a pod cookie.

[1585] And then put Pink Floyd's The Wall on.

[1586] Just someone, tell this fucking guy what it really is, because he's just talking out of his ass.

[1587] Yeah.

[1588] I mean, I don't know if this is just apocryphal or if this is an actual story, but I remember there being something about him saying that he thought the KKK were good guys until he found out they smoked weed.

[1589] No, that was, I think that was wrongly attributed to him.

[1590] Okay.

[1591] And that, not only that, there has been evidence that he's done many things for civil rights.

[1592] I'd read that, too.

[1593] But I think that's, it just might be the case of people being overzealous and trying to paint.

[1594] I mean, you could find things I'm sure that you've said or that I've said.

[1595] If you take them completely out of context, you could paint a very different opinion.

[1596] Definitely.

[1597] It's fucking very hard to form an opinion of someone, like a legitimate opinion of someone without actually knowing them.

[1598] Yeah.

[1599] But you can have an opinion.

[1600] It's not that hard when they go out and say that.

[1601] that pot is nearly as dangerous as heroin because at that person at that point you're just like this person is either delusional or is willfully deceptive right and the most important part about it is it's not just a person it's a person with an extreme amount of power yeah it's a person a very dangerous position of enforcing laws and you go okay well will you think that that's crazy that's not true that's not true like it just drives me nuts because I think it helps people I really don't I really do I really do think it's probably one of the best elements in terms of a happy, healthy society, staying grounded and being like a little more kind.

[1602] I think it gives you a certain percentage more of kindness.

[1603] Yeah, I mean, I've definitely seen it make people more empathetic, more tolerant towards one another.

[1604] I've seen people who have anxiety that it helps.

[1605] I've seen people who have anxiety that it exacerbates their anxiety too.

[1606] The edibles do for sure.

[1607] Like the story I told about my brother at the beginning of the show, But by and large, I know a lot of people with, like, bad anxiety who smoke weed and it makes them feel better.

[1608] It makes it feel more comfortable in social situations.

[1609] You know what it does too, bro?

[1610] It makes you fucking talk about weed.

[1611] Yeah.

[1612] How come you guys keep talking about weed?

[1613] I get it.

[1614] You like weed.

[1615] Enough already, bro.

[1616] I can read that now.

[1617] I can read it in the comments.

[1618] It's there.

[1619] It's already there.

[1620] Someone's typing it up right now.

[1621] Stop talking about weed.

[1622] I'm going to get them.

[1623] I know T. I know T. I'm going to get them.

[1624] Don't talk about this.

[1625] Talk about this.

[1626] Suck it.

[1627] Feel the burn, you motherfucker.

[1628] Well, if you don't want us to talk about weed, then tell Jeff Sessions to stop signaling he's going after it.

[1629] Jeff Sessions needs to get high on mushrooms.

[1630] Get that guy in a nice room with velvet curtains and some gentle Jefferson airplane from the 1960s.

[1631] Real low candlelight.

[1632] Put some black light posters on the wall.

[1633] You don't need that.

[1634] He needs the black light.

[1635] I want him just sit there and stare at a poster and watch it change shapes and colors.

[1636] bunch of times and like, whoa.

[1637] Yeah, you know what we do?

[1638] We do black light posters.

[1639] There he is.

[1640] But only, only, uh, it's hard to imagine that fucker on shrooms.

[1641] No, it's not.

[1642] Easy.

[1643] I see him wearing like an African garb.

[1644] Oh, yeah.

[1645] Like, uh, like some sort of macramee beads around his neck and shit.

[1646] But all the posters in the wall, they're all that Bruce Lee poster from Enter the Dragon with the blood across his chest.

[1647] Wah!

[1648] That's the greatest velvet poster of all time.

[1649] It's the ultimate trailer park kung fu master poster.

[1650] Oh, yeah.

[1651] Have that motherfucker up.

[1652] Have him watch that.

[1653] Watch all the things it turns into.

[1654] Yeah.

[1655] Poor old guy.

[1656] He's going to go to his grave without trying mushrooms.

[1657] It's going to go to his grave thinking weed is as bad as heroin.

[1658] Maybe he took mushrooms and that was the revelation he had.

[1659] Wow.

[1660] Marijuana is almost as bad as heroin is.

[1661] It's so stupid because it doesn't kill you.

[1662] And it's actually better for a lot of people, for pain, than even heroin is.

[1663] Especially edible pot.

[1664] Edible pot is supposed to be really good for people that have.

[1665] chronic pain.

[1666] Just a massive reducer of information.

[1667] But you can function on it, especially physiologically you can function.

[1668] Like if you do something you already know how to do and you're high on pot, especially like pot edibles, doesn't have any like performance, like decreasing elements to it.

[1669] It doesn't decrease your performance.

[1670] In fact, a lot of people do it right before they do jiu -jitsu because they think it increases their performance.

[1671] I've known people who I've known people who get high before they go workout because they're like, yeah, you know, it's going to keep me more focused and, you know, especially if you're smoking like a strong sativa strain.

[1672] It might give them a little energy burst.

[1673] Yeah, you feel it, man. You feel like the fibers of your muscles.

[1674] It's great before yoga.

[1675] Ooh.

[1676] Yeah, I mean, I don't really do a lot of, like, physical activities that much.

[1677] But, like, if I'm going to do, like, stretching or something, it's nice to be high and just, like, you know.

[1678] Because your muscles are way more relaxed and stuff.

[1679] You're able to get, you have, like, flexibility you don't really have if you're just.

[1680] don't hold sober and all your tension is still there and it feels really good like when you're stretching your high it feels like oh you're supposed to be doing this you should do this more often dude like you just have a better accounting of what the signals your body sending you because i think when you're when you're sober you know you can try to think about all your different areas and tune into the body and all the the various points of contact where the elbows meet the forearm and think about all the muscle tissue but you'd have to like really go through it, like step by step and be really conscious of what you're doing.

[1681] When you smoke pot, it's just there for you.

[1682] I really enjoyed watching you fight with Stephen Crowder about this, by the way.

[1683] Oh, he's a silly boy when it comes to pot.

[1684] He's a silly boy overall.

[1685] I've had some dealings with him.

[1686] The pot thing is interesting, though.

[1687] He didn't want to even debate it.

[1688] Like when we were pulling up the information, he thought I was being a bully, because we were pulling up things that showed contrary to what he was saying about car accidents.

[1689] I've since looked into it.

[1690] And the American Automobile Association has some statistics where they think that it's increasing.

[1691] There's an increased number of people that have marijuana in their system when they have the car accidents.

[1692] But the real problem with that is there might be just as much of an increase in those people smoking marijuana in that area.

[1693] It might not be related to the accident.

[1694] Just because it's connected to the accident, doesn't mean it caused the accident.

[1695] If you're going to make the car accident argument, too, you know, you've got to realize alcohol is causing way more.

[1696] traffic accidents than weed is.

[1697] Well, that was what they were talking about.

[1698] There's in these places, there's a lot of the places where people are smoking pot.

[1699] There's a decrease, a decrease in DUI fatalities.

[1700] There's a decrease in violent crimes.

[1701] There's quite a few different statistics to look at, but Colorado seems to be saying there's a decrease in these car accidents and in DUI -related incidents.

[1702] You know, Stephen Crowder wanted to sue me, too.

[1703] Why do you want to sue you?

[1704] He wanted to sue me. We were on the same network for a while on YouTube and it was called polypop and the guy that was like my assigned I forget what the position's called the the fucking facilitator or whatever the fuck he had the same one as I did and he told me you know that video you made about Stephen Crowder and that that shit because he got in a fight with some union guy on footage and he was like oh yeah attacked by this union thug and I looked at the footage and I'm like wait a minute this guy gets up from the ground, he's facing away from you.

[1705] It looked like someone pushed him from behind.

[1706] Did you see the whole video?

[1707] Yeah.

[1708] Well, the beginning of it, the guy threw a punch out of him.

[1709] Well, the guy was on the fucking ground.

[1710] At one point.

[1711] Yeah, but you don't really see what happens with him.

[1712] You see the guy throw a punch at him first.

[1713] I'm very familiar with the video.

[1714] I don't know.

[1715] I don't, I looked at it.

[1716] The guy's in his face.

[1717] Can we maybe see the video?

[1718] The guy's in his face.

[1719] The guy comes close to him.

[1720] They get into some sort of a grappling situation.

[1721] where the guy, like, physically manhandles him.

[1722] All right, hold on.

[1723] This is on Crowder's channel.

[1724] I want to see the, there's like an un -edited version of this somewhere.

[1725] But you can see the full altercation when it does happen.

[1726] Let's take a look.

[1727] Even on Crowder's channel.

[1728] Like, scroll ahead a little bit.

[1729] I want to get to, I'll tell you what, that's the guy.

[1730] That's the guy who hits him.

[1731] Oh, wait.

[1732] The guy's telling him the back to fuck up.

[1733] So he puts his hand up and backs the fuck up.

[1734] That's the guy that fights him right there.

[1735] The guy with the mustache.

[1736] Which guy?

[1737] The mustache, dude.

[1738] Oh, this guy.

[1739] You see that?

[1740] Uh -huh.

[1741] Like, we don't, there's like a missing piece of footage there.

[1742] Hmm.

[1743] But in the footage I saw, you don't see that guy attack him first.

[1744] You see that guy get up from being on the ground on his stomach.

[1745] Oh, I see what you're saying.

[1746] So something happened.

[1747] And so what I was thinking is, did Stephen Crowder push this guy?

[1748] I don't know.

[1749] Because you don't, there's no footage on there.

[1750] But I surmised, based on what I looked at in the footage, that this guy was maybe pushed and then got up and then started whaling on Crowder.

[1751] Hmm, interesting.

[1752] And I put that out there, and here's the interesting thing.

[1753] He said he was going to sue me for what I said about it.

[1754] He then later went to court, and a judge looked at the footage and kind of came to the same conclusion I did and said, I don't think that this went down the way you're saying, based on the footage I see.

[1755] He lost that court case, and then he had to drop any sort of idea of a lawsuit against me because a judge had already ruled that the tape was bullshit, didn't really show what he thought it said.

[1756] shit.

[1757] There's also instances where I challenged him to debates back in the day, not recently, but he would never acknowledge me. I mean, one time he did send his like little brother after me. His brother?

[1758] Yeah.

[1759] Like, I don't know if it was his younger brother or his older brother.

[1760] I think it was his little brother was like, you're a fucking faggot or whatever.

[1761] I'm like, why won't your brother debate me?

[1762] Because we were at the time on the same network.

[1763] You're saying he sent him after you physically?

[1764] No, no. Just on Twitter.

[1765] Oh, okay.

[1766] You got to specify that.

[1767] I'm sorry.

[1768] I'm thinking two dudes are looking at each other outside a bar.

[1769] He didn't come.

[1770] He didn't come and to fucking fuck me up or anything.

[1771] He's just talking shit on Twitter.

[1772] So he'd talk shit on Twitter.

[1773] You sure that's Stephen's brother?

[1774] It was.

[1775] Okay.

[1776] Yeah, it was Stephen's brother.

[1777] But Stephen himself has never taught.

[1778] I made several videos about him.

[1779] Maybe not several, like three.

[1780] But he's never confronted me. Polypop tried to get us to do a debate at the time.

[1781] He wouldn't do it.

[1782] That seems weird.

[1783] And it's weird because he's Mr. Like, I'm going to go, like, he just trolled Jank Ugar the other day, you know?

[1784] I thought that was funny.

[1785] His impression of Jank Yugar is fucking funny It is pretty spot on The one that he did When he played Anna and Jank back and forth I didn't see that Oh fucking pull it up He'll let us use it Look I like Stephen Crowder I do I really do I think he's a good guy I just He's like he's a little bit Heavy on the right wing He gets a little silly Yeah But he does some funny shit like this And when he crashed Jenk's thing Like The saddest thing was how Jank was responding to it Like he didn't have any sense of humor about it Well, Jenk obviously takes himself very seriously for some reason.

[1786] They didn't mean any AR -47s.

[1787] Do the research.

[1788] That's absolutely correct.

[1789] We'll have it listed at GEOCity.

[1790] Yes, I agree with you, Jank.

[1791] So fucking much.

[1792] That's absolutely right.

[1793] When you use the F word, you know it's real talk.

[1794] I said, fuck.

[1795] So we have a bunch of people who are.

[1796] Anyway, you could see it online.

[1797] At one point, he's pouring bacon grease down his mouth.

[1798] I just thought it was funny.

[1799] I think it was pretty funny.

[1800] it's it's look dude i i recently be able to make fun of yourself i recently sat down uh we did this we went and watched a bunch of young turks videos so we could put out this special drunken peasants versus the young turks uh video we we shot about five hours of us watching young turks videos and just tearing them apart and one of the things i noticed is what jank will do and and watch for this if you're ever watching his shit uh he'll have his panel say something that's like super crazy left wing like someone will say it like anna will say it or one of the stephen o or whatever whoever he's got on ben makowitz whatever they'll say something that's real far left wing and then it'll cut to jank and jank will have more of like a a moderate left wing opinion and then it'll go back to them and they'll immediately capitulate to jank like oh yeah jank you're you're what you're saying is way more sensible than what i said a second ago and i just saw that pattern recurring over and over and over again.

[1801] So I don't know if that's like by design or if they're just, they feel like the need to capitulate to him because they're, they'd be scared of him or something.

[1802] Yeah.

[1803] Or, uh, or what?

[1804] There's definitely a lot of emotions going on there too.

[1805] There's a lot of emotion in the way they describe things.

[1806] And some people, I think, at least initially connected to that, but then they see where it gets problematic.

[1807] If you're dealing with any, like, really serious issue and you want to debate just the facts, like, and have your ducks in a row.

[1808] The wool over my eyes was the Harris debate, of course, like most people.

[1809] Exactly.

[1810] That was like the first, like, major chink in the jank Ugar armor.

[1811] I never know how to pronounce his first name.

[1812] So when you said it that way, I was like, you kind of...

[1813] I think it's pronounced a jank.

[1814] Chank in the jank Uyghur.

[1815] Chink in the jank.

[1816] There we go.

[1817] I think he's a good guy.

[1818] I like talking to him, too.

[1819] I just think people handle certain types of confrontation and disagreements, and they don't handle them the best way they could.

[1820] and then those things escalate and they compound and then it becomes who you are and then you're defending who you are and then you're always trying to argue with people about who you are and what you've done and like that's when you're gone yeah that's when you're over the top it's like we've done this we've done that and we've done this we've done that like hey you're talking about shit that's happening in the world that's all you're doing that's all any of us are doing it's all anybody's doing unless you're out there digging wells in the Congo with Justin Wren what you're doing is you're talking about shit yeah So if you got a bunch of people listening to you talk about shit, it's just talking about shit.

[1821] At the end of the day, you don't get any extra points because more people are listening or more people are watching.

[1822] Your point isn't more valid.

[1823] Your point still has to stand up in the marketplace of ideas.

[1824] Yeah.

[1825] And yours is just as valid as his.

[1826] It's just as valid as mine.

[1827] If the delivery system is a bigger delivery system, it doesn't mean that, like, everybody has to stop and take you into account because you've had more success in this market.

[1828] Yeah.

[1829] That's a crazy way of looking at shit.

[1830] Sure.

[1831] And when him and Alex Jones battle back and forth between who gets the most viewers and who has the mother like, holy shit, this is ridiculous.

[1832] Like what, did you see when Alex went on to the stage at South by Southwest?

[1833] Is that what it was, South by Southwest?

[1834] I think so.

[1835] Yeah, last year.

[1836] It's hilarious.

[1837] Oh, yeah.

[1838] That was one of the greatest trollings of all time.

[1839] But Jen got so mad.

[1840] He's screaming and yelling on.

[1841] You fucking dumb ass!

[1842] We oppose Saudi Arabia.

[1843] That little weasel Jimmy Dorr spitting on fucking Alex Jones, dude.

[1844] You know what's unfortunate?

[1845] That guy, Jimmy Dorr does some good stuff.

[1846] Yeah.

[1847] I've seen some of his stuff, too.

[1848] This is a really good...

[1849] He's put some really good videos up.

[1850] He's done some really good work.

[1851] Yeah.

[1852] People aren't perfect.

[1853] I don't really care for him, but...

[1854] But you recognize that some of the stuff's really good, right?

[1855] I've never seen the stuff that's good.

[1856] Maybe it's out there.

[1857] I haven't seen it.

[1858] I've seen it make some good points.

[1859] Very good points.

[1860] You know, he, when he was covering the whole Milo thing, he played a very deceptive version of the Milo clip, and he credited us basically as a podcast and talked about us as like, we're doing this podcast from a basement somewhere or something.

[1861] Meanwhile, isn't it funny that a podcast like yours, which gets hundreds of thousands of dollars, I'm sure, right?

[1862] Like, if it was more than that, he would have to say the name of the podcast, right?

[1863] like if he was on the Adam Carolla show he would say the Adam Carolla show sure because it's yours even though he knows what it's like like I'm not going to give these guys credit and you know a lot of the media did that to us I was I was there was like transcripts of the Milo episode where it was like and then unknown host said this it's like fuck you I'm not in a bunker what you guys can't just look it up aren't you supposed to be like journalists can't you figure out what the fuck the podcast was and I saw ones that it I contributed stuff to me, but then had stuff of yours, where they didn't even, I didn't know that you guys had them on.

[1864] I thought that all the shit was coming from my podcast, because I got a text message from my friend Chris McGuire informing me of all of it.

[1865] And so I went and I said, well, this isn't even my podcast.

[1866] And then I realized like, oh, he was on your podcast too.

[1867] And they combined the two different things.

[1868] I even saw people say, like, he was on Joe Rogan's Drunken Peasants podcast.

[1869] It's like, wow, people are supposed to trust you for fucking information.

[1870] You're supposed to be a fucking credible source.

[1871] You can't even get this basic shit, right?

[1872] The media is a fucking joke.

[1873] Well, the media now is.

[1874] It's a total fucking joke.

[1875] There's like a few places where you can still trust.

[1876] Like where?

[1877] I'm hoping you were out of the answer to that.

[1878] Because you know what?

[1879] People come to me all the time and they're like, TJ, what news media outlet do you trust?

[1880] I'm like, none of them.

[1881] I don't trust a single goddamn fucking thing any of these institutions have.

[1882] to say whatever Megan Kelly has to say I'm listening oh Megan I'm in Megan you're right about everything Megan that's what I like like ice princesses yeah I don't know why like a mean like a mean and smart really I'm like no I'm like no but I'm fascinated by people who must you know some people you know they're perfect structure perfect bone structure steely blue eyes and peck will be dressed talking about guns and the war and crime and poverty and pot and prison we'll be right back you know the fucking bitch i really hated back in the day was uh nancy grace oh she's the worst she's hideous she's still the worst she's horrible and like that that moral indignation that she has over everything like everything is always like you oh my gods i cannot believe you know i hate that i hope that constant i'm indignant about everything in the world and i'm this great moral judge here to fucking tell people what's really what another dead baby in florida oh she's a monster remember when she went after those duke lacrosse kids yep the fake rape case and then never apologized no why would she she's perfect in fact she probably still thinks those kids did it imagine that imagine imagine imagine being those kids and going what in the fuck we didn't do that oh nancy grace shut up nancy grace that's not the truth.

[1883] Those boys are terrible.

[1884] She's made her entire career off of exploiting the worst human beings in their worst case scenarios and then putting it on TV and getting everybody outraged.

[1885] Yep.

[1886] Like the outrage machine.

[1887] Taught mom.

[1888] She was the one who was chasing that lady down that killed her kid.

[1889] Casey Anthony, remember that?

[1890] That was her big bloodhound moment.

[1891] Nancy Grace renews her criticism of Totman.

[1892] Who the fuck is Tot Mom?

[1893] I'm renewing.

[1894] She's that lady that killed her kid.

[1895] Oh, okay.

[1896] Yeah.

[1897] Oh, so it's Casey Anthony.

[1898] Casey Anthony.

[1899] I've never heard her called Tot Mom before.

[1900] Yeah, that's who she calls her.

[1901] Tot Mom.

[1902] I try to avoid experiencing Nancy Grace on any level.

[1903] Did you ever see her debate with two chains?

[1904] No. They debated about pot.

[1905] Two chains and Nancy Grace were debating about pot on TV.

[1906] It was the most ridiculous shit ever.

[1907] Two chains?

[1908] I might have actually seen that now that you mention it.

[1909] Why, yeah, just, why they let two chains do it?

[1910] Because she probably thought he was a soft target, that she could just steamroll, dude.

[1911] Yeah, if you're going to do that with her, you'd need to be in the room, too.

[1912] You can't be on that split screen.

[1913] They talk over you.

[1914] You barely hear them.

[1915] There's a delay.

[1916] It's confusing.

[1917] They know what the fuck they're doing.

[1918] Those split screen things are weird.

[1919] You have something in your ear and they're talking to you and you don't see them.

[1920] You're staring right out of camera.

[1921] Dude, yeah.

[1922] You're not looking at them.

[1923] Yeah, when I was on CNN, like, not only that, but, like, I was in a huge.

[1924] gigantic room and the camera was like 30 feet away yeah so I'm looking at this camera that's like in the distance like talking to nothing it there's a fucking earpiece in my ear that keeps falling out mm and it's designed that way man it's designed to well first of all for convenience for them for the people that are filming yeah but also like the best way to get a good reaction out of the guest is put the guests under pressure put them under pressure put them in some weird situation and have some smooth talking Tucker, Tucker Carson type character.

[1925] Oh, dude, Tucker.

[1926] Tucker.

[1927] Tucker.

[1928] I'm really disappointed he didn't stick with the bow tie.

[1929] I was hoping.

[1930] I am too.

[1931] But you know what?

[1932] It seems like his ratings are better, so maybe the bow tie was fucking him up.

[1933] But like, I remember, like, I love how every fucking answer anyone gives to him on his show.

[1934] He always does this, like.

[1935] Yeah.

[1936] Hmm.

[1937] Yeah.

[1938] Yeah.

[1939] Always has this, like, perplexed.

[1940] Like, what?

[1941] Yeah.

[1942] He's an interesting guy.

[1943] he's sort of taking this middleman Republican approach, sort of the middle, you know, like more reasonable, more and more towards the middle.

[1944] Well, can I understand your position?

[1945] Like, let me go over your position one more time, please.

[1946] Like, he's sort of semi -mocking, but clearly on the right.

[1947] Oh, yeah.

[1948] And the great thing, too, is that he's kind of brought that internet strain of conservatism over to Fox News.

[1949] Because, like, you know, Bill O 'Reilly and Sean Hannity, they're not tapped into that shit.

[1950] Right, right, right.

[1951] But Tucker is, and it's clear.

[1952] Right, right, right.

[1953] So he's basically appealing to probably a younger conservative demographic, I would imagine, than Hannity and O 'Reilly get.

[1954] He's appealing to the people that have seen one too many Alex Jones videos.

[1955] Where they've gotten to that one point, they're like, I can't do this anymore.

[1956] I can't do this anymore.

[1957] And then they go over to Tucker.

[1958] Like a kid So what was it No more conspiracies What was it like having him on here By the way Alex Jones It was a dream come true Like sitting face to face And actually listen to him talk Well I've been friends with him For a long time Right I've known that guy since 1999 I think Okay It was fun It was fun for me But it was also something like For the longest time People thought I was avoiding having him on For some reason And he kept saying Well I try to get a hold To Joe Rogan Everytime him in town But he blows me off He was always texting the wrong number he's always like he didn't get or he'd get a hold to me that day and I'm like dude I already have a podcast schedule I can't do it today well I'll be back soon when I'm back we'll figure it out we'll figure it out and then he would go on his show Joe Rogan's been avoiding me I've been trying to get in there to give out this information it's very important maybe he's scared maybe he's been threatened the government's threatened him he won't open up about Bigfoot I believe Joe Rogan did experience Bigfoot he saw he was there in the woods now Alex doesn't really believe in Bigfoot I guess who knows what he's got important fish to fry I know he believes he seems to believe in demons these days oh yeah well they are demons they are they're all demons from hell all of them they're damned they're damned I'm sorry and if you're a red thing where he does he you apologize yeah the apology the apology compilation excuse me it's amazing I will stomp your head in excuse me I got a this is a Christian family show I'm a Christian and I apologize he's just such a fucking awesome guy To me, he's awesome.

[1959] He's like a boundless source of entertainment.

[1960] And if you knew him, man, like if you, me, and him went out, we went to a bar, we had a couple of drinks, we would have a great fucking time.

[1961] I'm telling you, he's a nice guy.

[1962] He's a real nice guy.

[1963] And he would start telling you, well, to bury him, they've been putting barium in the water.

[1964] And you're like, what?

[1965] You want another beer?

[1966] I'm telling you, he's a great guy.

[1967] But I understand that people are upset that he has the president's ear.

[1968] Maybe the president's like me. Maybe the president just thinks he's awesome.

[1969] wants to listen to crazy stories.

[1970] Trump's just like, yeah, bear him into water.

[1971] It sounds great.

[1972] Interdimensional child molesters are coming in through the cigarette smoke.

[1973] Cigarettes with the 599 chemicals are designed to let the gates of hell come loose.

[1974] And the interdimensional child molesters come in.

[1975] He just will go on and on and on and on.

[1976] I love the interdimensional child molester thing because it's like they have interdimensional travel capabilities and they're like immediate thing.

[1977] Like what do we use this for?

[1978] I know.

[1979] What's bad kids?

[1980] We'll rape kids in other dimensions.

[1981] You know, like, what?

[1982] Well, they're always...

[1983] Is that really the best application of that fucking technology?

[1984] They're always, like, the archetypes of, like, when you get into the really hardcore conspiracy theorists, the archetypes are always, like, very satanic.

[1985] The archetypes are always, like, eugenics, like, they want to kill off a massive amount of the population, engineering a master race.

[1986] Like, there's, like, keeping all the medicine and the resources for the elites, killing off everyone else preparing to get off this planet because they know it's doomed because Nibiru's coming it's all this like apocalyptic shit it's really fascinating because it like so much of it revolves around these these like and then they sell supplements and survival kits well that's what he does yeah nobody sells him better than Jim Baker he sells him his furniture have you seen that video he sells them as toilets dude have you seen him sell it like you know after he says after the bonus bucket is empty you can use it as a toilet.

[1987] Oh, so like when you're out there in the woods, yeah.

[1988] No, well, there's not going to be modern plumbing after the apocalypse.

[1989] People don't even know how bad shit smells because most of the time you don't really smell it.

[1990] You smell it watered down.

[1991] Plop logs.

[1992] When you take a shit in the woods, that's when you really go, oh, Jesus Christ.

[1993] And at least then you're outside with all that air and a nice stiff breeze.

[1994] But if you take a shit in a room in a bucket, it's going to smell so horrible you will start gagging and throwing up you'll be so disgusted not to mention you'd have to actually eat their supposedly fucking five years worth of disgusting macaroni and cheese or mashed potatoes to actually get the bucket empty enough to shit in it that's true so i mean like look at that that's jim baker's bowl and look are any of these fucking old fucks gonna live long enough to even they are who cares if they survive the apocalypse they're fucking probably not even going to survive this demo for fuck's sake what you don't know is we are all batting down the hatches and waiting for Jesus' return.

[1995] Okay, the slop that was in the bucket and the slop they're putting in their mouths is not the same.

[1996] Oh, you think there's a different?

[1997] It does not look the same.

[1998] There's just like a rice pudding, maybe?

[1999] It looks like a fine risotto.

[2000] It's a risotto, yeah.

[2001] Look at those poor people in the audience.

[2002] Forget about being so fucking stupid that you watch it on TV because it's just on.

[2003] But imagine being so fucking stupid.

[2004] Like, you said, I really think, we're going to go to see the sermon today and take the bus into the town.

[2005] to go and sit in the audience and listen to Pastor Jim.

[2006] I think they offer them free food.

[2007] I think they tell them like, yeah, you get a free meal if you come in here.

[2008] That's all they need, a free meal?

[2009] They're like, ooh, sweet, free food.

[2010] Well, they're probably excited to be on television as well.

[2011] A lot of them have books.

[2012] They have books open.

[2013] Pack that up, look.

[2014] But don't they have, like, books in their hands?

[2015] Probably those same books you see on the stage.

[2016] Probably just passing them out.

[2017] Get them to try to fucking buy this bonus bucket shit.

[2018] Yeah, look, they've got, like, notes.

[2019] People are taking notes.

[2020] This is important stuff What's important Well okay If I'll eat one plate Of that risotto a day I could be underground For 50 years I've got willpower I got a Hawaiian shirt on Look at these fucking people They're taking notes Like this is like really important stuff That Jim Baker's talking about I just love that this guy keeps on keeping on Oh yeah You know He's like the Energizer Bunny dude Yeah no one's talking to Jessica Hahn these days Okay No one even cares about her anymore look at him He looks smooth as fuck He's got that sleek white hair He's got a cute little beard Look at him He's thin Looks healthy He's passionate Yeah He's got the drive He's got the energy He's got this hot little piece of ass Behind him in the green shirt Yeah look at her It's fun Trashy If you watch this shit sometimes You'll see them like Openly argue on the show But like it'll be like Very like Restrained like I remember one time He was like talk about Marijuana or something and he's like you used to smoke marijuana in your college days didn't she?

[2021] And she's like oh yeah and then you know this picture of smoking pot and taking dick like a champ oh yeah right I mean she does have that vibe doesn't she for sure strong strong trophy wife vibe going on especially for someone that guy's age well we found out from the Jessica Hahn days that that dude was a partier he liked a party that's his deal he likes to talk about the lord and he maybe even believes it but But after that shit's done, whoa, let's party.

[2022] He's time to fuck.

[2023] Yeah, that's what Christianity's all about forgiveness, y 'all.

[2024] Yeah, listen, man. Just get forgiven the next day.

[2025] It's a beautiful thing.

[2026] He's got a good market.

[2027] He's got it locked in.

[2028] Who's that Joel Olstein guy?

[2029] Is that his name?

[2030] Yeah, Joel Olstein.

[2031] That guy, he does arenas, man. That guy does the same place where we do the UFC.

[2032] He was coming the next day or the next week.

[2033] I was like, that's crazy.

[2034] He fills the fucking arena.

[2035] It's that like prosperity doctrine shit.

[2036] Look at those people.

[2037] Maybe I'm in the wrong business Yeah, I've thought about it before I'm like, man How much don't I have to know about Jesus Talk about him on stage?

[2038] Not a whole lot I was thinking like, oh, I could fucking spin this yarn About like I used to be this YouTube atheist Yeah, dude, you should totally do that And now I'm redeemed and And I found Jesus And yeah, I'll do it all nice and conservative And shit And I'll be like, yeah, I found Jesus To turn my life around, I was depressed Well, stop right there, stop right there No one's gonna believe you You'd change your fucking accent To a mocking Southern accent Well, you know, obviously.

[2039] You can't do that for you, but let's just run through how we would have you do it.

[2040] Okay.

[2041] If we're going to reinvent you.

[2042] Like I just say, the country, rather, moves so far into conservatism that it's dangerous being an atheist.

[2043] It's dangerous being a liberal.

[2044] And you've got a certain amount of financial requirements now.

[2045] You've got a mortgage, you know, maybe you've got a car payment.

[2046] You're like, well, fuck, man, I need to get this money to keep coming in.

[2047] I know what I'm going to do.

[2048] I'm going to reinvent myself.

[2049] And it'll be a performance art piece that I do for a few years where I become a conservative.

[2050] Come a conservative Christian.

[2051] Give my life over to Jesus.

[2052] What would be the event that we would need to talk about?

[2053] Like, we would have to describe an event that motivated you to make the big change.

[2054] Oh, shit.

[2055] It had to be something that I could fake easily, but seems credible and believable.

[2056] Like maybe a little baby heart attack.

[2057] Oh, yeah, that's true.

[2058] Yeah, you're a little overweight.

[2059] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[2060] I could just be like, I had my heart attack and I could even fucking, maybe I could spin some kind of like near -death yarn or some shit.

[2061] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[2062] like you blacked out like something happened you had like a little minor heart attack and your leg stopped working you blacked out and I saw I was in a tunnel and I saw the light yeah and I felt like a presence and energy mm -hmm a love that I'd never experienced before what did what did what was the initial reaction to this love in this experience oh um hmm I think uh should we should we should we go the hell route should we go like I saw you know I was cast out of this place and I went to Hell, or is that too over the top?

[2063] Here's my take on things.

[2064] Yeah.

[2065] This is what I believe.

[2066] I believe you're allowed to talk about God all day long, but as soon as you talk about the devil, only a select group of people are going to hear you.

[2067] That's true.

[2068] If you talk about your experience with God.

[2069] Because more people believe in God than believe in the devil.

[2070] Oh, fuck yeah.

[2071] Not only that, it's culturally acceptable to describe a belief in a higher power.

[2072] If you don't even say God, you get away with it like for 90 % of the people.

[2073] Oh, yeah, that's true.

[2074] All you have to do is say, I'm spiritual, I'm non -denominational.

[2075] but I'm spiritual and ultimately I believe in a higher power.

[2076] I just think it's very possible that something I leave the option open.

[2077] I heard like the seven planets fucking thing like what's that they say uh it's like a it's like a reincarnation trope where you're like you go through like seven stages of life where like the first you're I think humans are like second or third on the list but eventually like in your seventh life you become like a being of uh well I mean I mean you're.

[2078] it's not necessarily your seventh because you're you're like repeatedly attempting so you become like an enlightened being yeah like if you're if you're if you're if you're if you're if you're a shitty human being you might get sent back or you might just be a human being again but eventually you get reincarnated as like an immortal being of of a pure enlightenment and just one with the cosmos and all that shit like a dali lama yeah you could do like a like a you put you pedal that new age shit right because they they like set it on like seven different planets too like you go from one planet to the next as you progress up the ladder of fucking enlightenment?

[2079] All of us.

[2080] But what is this?

[2081] What religion is this one?

[2082] I don't know.

[2083] It's just some crazy shit I heard one time.

[2084] But I could roll with that.

[2085] Seven planets.

[2086] Yeah, you have seven times to reinvent yourself.

[2087] And I'm totally, I'm totally, I have my shit together now.

[2088] I'm 500 years old, but I'm totally together.

[2089] Finally, I can say I'm whole.

[2090] Nope.

[2091] Then you ascend.

[2092] Then you ascend.

[2093] You ascend to enlightenment to the seventh planet where you live out the rest of your existence in pure love and joy.

[2094] If we just had you talking on CNN again and they would go, well, what inspired you to make this decision after all your years of atheism YouTube videos to become a Christian?

[2095] And now that you are a Christian, are you going to take those videos down?

[2096] No, I'm going to leave them up so people can see that I really was this atheist.

[2097] I really did give credence to these atheist beliefs.

[2098] But now I've just, I've, I've rejected that all.

[2099] And in fact, I'm going to go through all my old videos and rebut them and show where I was wrong and explain why I was wrong.

[2100] So stay tuned for that.

[2101] Oh, genius.

[2102] I love it.

[2103] And you can also say, you know, what's really ironic is I did Joe Rogan's podcast and we joked around about this happening and then it did happen.

[2104] It is so crazy.

[2105] No, you just fucked this whole plan because it's all public.

[2106] No, no, no, it's not because it's going to your belief in the Lord is so powerful.

[2107] Despite the fact you talked about faking it, you're going to talk about it in the exact same way because it actually did happen.

[2108] It's almost like God was like, oh, you think you're so smart, TJ?

[2109] Well, I'll show you.

[2110] I'll show you and I'll have the exact same scenario play itself out and I will show myself to you and I will touch your heart.

[2111] Yeah, there you go.

[2112] And the Lord did.

[2113] He touched my heart, T .J. Just a few, a scant few years later, he touched my heart.

[2114] How much think Joel Olstein clears in one day?

[2115] We could look at his net worth or something.

[2116] That's probably scary.

[2117] What's that?

[2118] It's got to be.

[2119] I want to know.

[2120] Supposed what it's worth?

[2121] 56 million.

[2122] No worth.

[2123] He lives in a $10 million house.

[2124] Nice.

[2125] It's a good little scam he's got going.

[2126] It's probably more.

[2127] Hashtag ballin.

[2128] Hashtag ballin for Jesus.

[2129] That's incredible.

[2130] Now, how does one justify that?

[2131] We had this guy on Will McCaskill who runs this organization called Effective Altruism.

[2132] He donates all of his income above $35 ,000.

[2133] So he gets to $35 ,000.

[2134] he keeps that everything else he donates yeah that's like a real holy man yeah a lot of ways meanwhile jolstein 56 million dollar net worth 10 million dollar house he comes home and his gold underwear well look he's kind of smart because he's he's he's built prosperity into his doctrine because what he peddles is like if you if you're good and god loves you god wants you to be successful and prosperous right now there's nothing in christian doctrine actually back that up like Christians are persecuted and God does not give them an easy life.

[2135] They get crucified upside down and they get persecuted by authorities and all sorts of stuff.

[2136] But he's figured out some way to spin it like, if you love God and God loves you, then God wants you to be successful.

[2137] So basically all his money in his houses and his prosperity, that's all, that's God gave that to me. And that's part of my faith.

[2138] Yeah, but you asked for it, bitch.

[2139] You asked for money.

[2140] The people paid.

[2141] They paid to hear the word of God, hearing it through you.

[2142] God didn't get involved at any point.

[2143] What happens if somebody really charismatic who's really smart decides to play that as a scam?

[2144] I mean, it's happened a bunch of times start history.

[2145] Yeah, but like someone who's like a really good actor, like a Denzel Washington.

[2146] Denzel Washington becomes a religious icon.

[2147] Dude, could you imagine if Denzel Washington out of nowhere had some of religious epiphany or faked it and then decided to go on like television and had like a very powerful message for people and then started making YouTube videos and then started preaching in arenas people would oh my god you would leave there your life would be changed denzel washington you think of denzel washington from like training day like the kind of fucking power that guy can deliver if he could deliver a sermon like that joel olstein would just jump off a building he would watch that and go what the fuck business am i in now joel olstein would be like his opening act if anything you know You'd be a road hack.

[2148] Like the shitty opening band that no one cares about.

[2149] Yeah, if you got like a real actor, like a real powerful actor to go up there and do it.

[2150] In a real, I mean, there's like a guy like Leonardo DiCaprio.

[2151] Like Leonardo DiCaprio, the problem with Leo is he's too handsome and he gets too much pussy.

[2152] You're not going to take him seriously.

[2153] You're just not.

[2154] He's just got too much money.

[2155] He's always bawling all over the world.

[2156] He's on yachts with models.

[2157] Too much money.

[2158] I'm sorry.

[2159] But if we could get past that.

[2160] If somehow or another, we could get past that.

[2161] Like, if that guy settled down, he had a wife, and he had a kid, and then he had some religious epiphany, and then he really got close to the Lord, and he was really, like, gathering up the scripture, and then he started fucking preaching.

[2162] You really want this to happen.

[2163] I can sense it, and you like, oh, yeah, yeah, soon.

[2164] You know the expression, politics is for people that suck at showbiz.

[2165] Yeah.

[2166] It's for ugly people that suck at showbiz.

[2167] And that's essentially what religion is.

[2168] I mean, it's another form of showbiz.

[2169] So, I mean, what you're doing is by doing it that way, the only way you do it that way is you have to put on a performance.

[2170] If you're going to stand in front of all those people and talk about what the Lord does to me, like, whether you have passion for it or not, that is an orchestrated performance.

[2171] It's an art form.

[2172] You're disant, you're riling people's sensibilities up and stimulating their minds.

[2173] It's fucking weird.

[2174] It's a fucking weird way to worship.

[2175] You know, it's very weird.

[2176] You pay a bunch of money to get in a arena.

[2177] And some con man screams and yells about the Lord and pretends that he could read people's minds and heal the sick Those motherfuckers that touch people Yeah Wiggle they're there.

[2178] Oh, you're deaf.

[2179] I'll wiggle my finger in your ear and now you can hear it's a miracle I can hear And then they're rushed off real quick, you know like by a deaf person or formerly deaf person What's really creepy when the I don't forget which one?

[2180] Which guy got busted with the earpiece?

[2181] I remember the preacher?

[2182] They exposed him on one of those shows a James Randy that fucking set up that operation where you could hear his wife talking to him and telling him about people.

[2183] All these healer guys, this Benny Hinn type dudes.

[2184] And that didn't destroy his career either.

[2185] He kept going.

[2186] Why?

[2187] Those people aren't reading.

[2188] Just keep going.

[2189] Peter Popoff was the other thing.

[2190] Peter Popoff.

[2191] I didn't know who that guy was.

[2192] There's so many of them, though.

[2193] I guess that's the way they make a living.

[2194] Yeah, it's a nice little racket they got going.

[2195] We were talking about doing it for you.

[2196] I think you could do it though You could fucking nail it You know you could do it Any of us could do it You could really do it though I could really do it Yeah Because I got the whole atheist angle I can play like I used to be this way But now I've seen the light The former amazing atheist Now an amazing Christian Ding I can see the title now Yeah I have to get some like teeth whitener And Dude you can cut my hair Just cut your hair short You'd be fine Cut the hair a little shorter Yeah Find yourself a nice Christian gal dress up a nice That's what it would be Hot Christian pussy That's what took you over to the top Oh yeah I can even tell them that Like look I just noticed that the Christian pussy Is just way higher caliber or so It's way better They're freaks They're all suppressed And when you finally get them alone They think Jesus isn't looking Yeah And that's why I decided to convert Imagine if like it took a few years And then you admit it Look I'm just gonna be real with y 'all I converted because Christian pussy is the best pussy.

[2197] It's like, it's not even close.

[2198] You know it.

[2199] Come on.

[2200] Why are lying?

[2201] You got to believe in Jesus when you just know, I mean, you know, you fuck an atheist pussy or a pagan pussy or whatever, and you're like, all right, I guess this is okay.

[2202] But you hit that Christian pussy, and you just feel the might of God touching your cock.

[2203] It's almost like Jesus himself is giving you a hand job.

[2204] Can you imagine if there was a belief system that changed the way your pussy felt, like if you knew that the girl didn't believe in Jesus when you had sex, like, oh, it was all wishy wash you down there.

[2205] No, no structure.

[2206] Like, we were talking about this the other day about wild pigs, that when wild pigs get loose, like you take a domestic pig, and when they get loose, their body morphs, their snout grows, their hair gets thicker, their tusks grow longer.

[2207] Imagine if, like, when a woman really believed in Jesus, if she really believed in God, her pussy would just tighten down like a fist, and you would realize it when you, when you were fucking, like, wow, the Lord is inside of her.

[2208] This is a girl I should come inside of.

[2209] because I should make babies with her, because the Lord is in her.

[2210] She really believes in the Lord.

[2211] The Lord resides within this cunt.

[2212] Maybe you could tell.

[2213] Maybe you could tell by having sex with them.

[2214] Imagine that?

[2215] And the guys would cry, I've never been with a girl who believed in the Lord.

[2216] Every girl I believed, every girl I believed believed in the Lord.

[2217] I was having sex with her.

[2218] It was like, just taking my dick in a bucket of jello.

[2219] There was nothing.

[2220] There was nothing.

[2221] There's no hope.

[2222] There's no future.

[2223] And there's this guy holding his wife's hand like a death.

[2224] grip.

[2225] She's got this Christian smile in her eyes.

[2226] And you know, our pussy's a vice grip.

[2227] Yeah.

[2228] Just a ball -milking vice grip.

[2229] Industrial suction power.

[2230] It's clamped down.

[2231] Imagine?

[2232] I think there would be a lot more Christians.

[2233] Yes.

[2234] You know?

[2235] That would be something that would definitely get people on the side of Christianity.

[2236] That's one of the weirder things about Islam is like the more radical sex of it and the more the deeper that people get into it when they want to cover up the entire woman like cover everything can't even see her can't even see her when she goes out cover it up and the idea is like if you don't cover up then you know men are just going to be like totally rape crazy like oh my god they must they must really like the fuck yeah I mean they you know like they I don't know how how how true statistically it is but you know They say that, like, the rape is a big problem when they go to these Western countries, these refugees and shit.

[2237] Oh, they're probably not used to seeing all these short shorts.

[2238] Oh, my God, it's like a fucking buffet, a pussy around here.

[2239] Don't you think that any country that has been around for as long, like any part of the world, really, where civilization has existed in for a long, long, long time?

[2240] It's very difficult to get those people off their old ways, you know, and when you're dealing with a place like the Middle East, like Iraq is the oldest, They think that like Sumer, which is where Iraq is, as far as we know, that's the oldest civilization we're currently totally aware of, right?

[2241] Six thousand years ago, there was people living in there and they had mathematics, they had agriculture, it was really advanced civilization for the time.

[2242] And the people that are there today in a lot of ways, I mean, these people have come in and people have left, but a lot of the fucking energy and the ideas in that culture are still in some way connected to this six thousand years.

[2243] year old culture.

[2244] We're still kind of fucked in this country because we're connected to the Puritans.

[2245] We're connected to the pilgrims that landed.

[2246] I mean, all these people that came over here seeking religious freedom and they were super religious and super puritanical in their belief systems.

[2247] Well, remember, it wasn't just the Puritans that were saying here.

[2248] It was kind of like the Puritans were sent.

[2249] Well, the Puritans came here to escape religious persecution.

[2250] And then a lot of the dregs of their society were sent here like, get the fuck out of here.

[2251] Go over there.

[2252] Yep.

[2253] Go colonize the new world.

[2254] Form a new life for yourself there.

[2255] That's my family.

[2256] Well, you know, that's what I'm saying, like, but if you really look at it, that's like the flips, I mean, you can kind of even look at America today and still see like, oh, here's the, here's where the Puritan element comes in, and here's where the degenerate scum -fuck element comes in, and then you got America.

[2257] Right, right.

[2258] Yeah.

[2259] It's a, look, anytime you start a fresh country, it's a goddamn gamble and a bunch of people are going to come over here, and you're not going to get the best stuff.

[2260] But look at Australia.

[2261] Australia was started as a prison colony.

[2262] It's one of my favorite places to visit.

[2263] The people were fantastic.

[2264] Never been there.

[2265] Oh, man, you'd love it.

[2266] Fucking Melbourne is amazing.

[2267] It's amazing.

[2268] One of the best cities I've ever been to.

[2269] The people are so cool.

[2270] It's like a cool San Francisco type vibe with a weird accent.

[2271] Not weird to them, obviously.

[2272] Fucking nicest people in the world.

[2273] There's so few of them.

[2274] They have it so much better over there.

[2275] Because there's as many as there is in the L .A. area in their entire fucking country.

[2276] Yeah?

[2277] What?

[2278] What I do?

[2279] that's a lot of fucking people man oh you just like we're like I just because I'm thinking about that it's like how ridiculously overpopulated we are oh yeah the second I land in L .A. like you go why there's like a weird vibe instantly like I just feel like way more guarded here and stuff because there's like a sense of like like a faint whiff of like violence that's always in the air here like you can just feel like the tensions that exist right and I notice people are like a lot of people aren't here are super apologetic all the time for like the slightest thing.

[2280] I think it's just because they all feel it like there's like kind of a powder keg here that could just explode at any time.

[2281] Or maybe they're just polite, TJ?

[2282] No, they're not.

[2283] Like what are people who are super apologetic about?

[2284] Well, look, like I was, first thing happened to me when I walked out of the airport was this guy, he's doing his suitcase and he hits my foot with it.

[2285] And he says he's sorry, he's like, oh, I'm so sorry.

[2286] But he keeps pulling it.

[2287] Like, you know, so he's not really changing what he's doing.

[2288] He's just giving me an apology for it so I won't get mad about it, basically.

[2289] Oh, I see.

[2290] So he didn't stop what he's doing and readjust and try to not hit your foot.

[2291] Yeah.

[2292] I mean, I just got out of the way at that point.

[2293] But, you know, it's like people around here, they try to like defuse.

[2294] Put a sorry over things to diffuse any possible.

[2295] Like, well, if I say sorry, then, you know, people won't be as piss.

[2296] And everyone's kind of stepping each other's toes here because it's so crowded.

[2297] There's so many fucking people.

[2298] There's so many different cultures trying to coexist.

[2299] you know in one place like even you know when i'm from seattle and shit like the area i live in has got like a lot of Asians there and stuff but like you don't really feel that sense of like the clash going on right or like there's tensions between these different groups of people because the attitude that they have like in the northwest uh at least the parts of it i live in are just kind of like people just kind of really don't give a shit about each other and there's sort of like an air of like detached like yeah you know i'll be somewhat friendly and shit but we're not all gonna fucking we're not gonna exchange all these niceties and shit and it's very like brusque attitude and people are you speaking for the entire area yes you're you their spokesperson I am their spokesperson I've found them in Seattle to be very friendly well I don't live exactly in Seattle so so maybe so maybe I am well I mean there's a lot like I said there's a lot of Asians there they tend to be brusk I feel like racism here comes oh yeah especially against Eskimos I don't fucking put up with that Inuit shit Yeah, I like Pacific Northwest.

[2300] I think it's, there's a unique, unique connection with nature when you get rained on all the time.

[2301] Yeah.

[2302] And everything's green as fuck.

[2303] Oh, yeah.

[2304] I think you guys have a better connection with nature.

[2305] Like, I have some friends that live in Ballard, and we went to, there's a park over there.

[2306] You know, and they have kids that are my kids age.

[2307] We all went to the park and we're hanging out there.

[2308] And we're like, God damn, everything is so green.

[2309] I was like, you guys are not just used to this.

[2310] Like, this is like normal for you, right?

[2311] Yeah.

[2312] And it was a rare day where it was like, soon.

[2313] super sunny and warm, and I was like, okay, if this was like this all the time, do you know this place would be so fucking crowded?

[2314] Like, your relationship that you have with nature is what keeps people away, but it also enhances, in my opinion, the way the people that live there look at things.

[2315] I think they're more grounded.

[2316] Yeah, like, I'm not really one who, like, focuses a lot on, like, the physical beauty of an area, but, like, I love just driving through, like, over a bridge or something.

[2317] in the Seattle area and just seeing all the fucking hills and all the trees and all the water and everything just looks really like serene and picturesque and beautiful even though you know there's a shit ton of people there.

[2318] Like there's a giant pot, like in LA it's like there's the sun and everything, but you just, it just looks like a fucking, when you fly in LA, it's just like a big grid of fucking lights and shit.

[2319] There's not much of, uh, of nature left for you to be like, Well, this is a flat patch of desert, too, that they slapped all these stupid buildings up on.

[2320] If it wasn't for this, it'd be, like, chaparral and fucking tumbleweeds and dirt.

[2321] But what Seattle also has is you guys have the ocean and the mountains all just jammed up on top of you, too.

[2322] Like, you can get to Mount Rainier from Seattle in, what is it, like 70 minutes?

[2323] Something like that?

[2324] I think it might be a little longer, but it's not very long.

[2325] Maybe an hour and a half, two hours at the most, because we were up there bigfoot squatching.

[2326] We were squatching, me and Dunkett Truzzle, and we drove down.

[2327] from there from Mount Rainier to a hotel in the mainland in the regular area.

[2328] So it was close enough that like within two hours or whatever it was we could be in the middle of this incredible rainforest and then go right back down and then you're looking at the ocean right there too.

[2329] It's just so fucking vibrant.

[2330] And look it's like where I live I feel like I'm in the middle of the fucking woods but I can drive five minutes and be in a downtown area.

[2331] Right.

[2332] It's just crazy.

[2333] Yeah, it is crazy.

[2334] You can't really get that in L .A. No, and you have a good amount of people up there, too.

[2335] Like, what is Seattle's population?

[2336] Like, 5 million or something?

[2337] Of the entire metropolitan area?

[2338] I think it's something like that.

[2339] I wouldn't know offhand, but...

[2340] Find out what it is, young Jamie.

[2341] I'm going to guess it's like 5 million, which I think you should put a cap on.

[2342] Don't let anybody move until people die.

[2343] Dude, like, even when I moved there...

[2344] Less than 5 million?

[2345] How many?

[2346] Sidious says it's only 650 ,000.

[2347] Yeah, but you got to look at the Seattle metropolitan area, though.

[2348] That's a good number, though.

[2349] six hundred fifty thousand that's beautiful but even when I moved there like when I told people 2 .7 million 3 .7 that ain't shit that's beautiful yeah you know but like even when I moved there like people are already kind of like I could sense like people being like more people yeah people always do that though man yeah they're like no we're good it's just like you said you know like try to try to stop anyone new from coming yeah greedy fucks it's like fuck you got a great spot if you if you wanted to go more hippie though would you go Portland Uh, no I don't know I've never really been to Portland Sweet spot I'm actually planning on going to Portland To see your A concert you're doing there Are you doing it?

[2350] Yeah, I'm like 20th of February or something Don't buy tickets Of April You didn't buy tickets, did you?

[2351] I don't know I'll hook it up Yeah I got a lot of people coming Okay, how many people Uh Six or seven I can make that happen All right cool But that spot is Portland To me is like There's a few, there's like a handful of places that I would live outside of L .A. Like Seattle, Seattle, Seattle, for sure, Portland, for sure.

[2352] Denver, Austin, Texas.

[2353] And then it would get weird.

[2354] Then we get weird after that.

[2355] Everything else would get like, man, maybe I could do it.

[2356] But outside of Denver or Boulder, when I say Denver, I really mean Colorado.

[2357] Like, I could live in Aspen, too.

[2358] I love, I love Colorado.

[2359] When I was trying to escape Ohio, like, we all sat down.

[2360] We were trying to all come to a consensus about where to move to, and like, a lot of those places were considered.

[2361] Like, we were tossed around Austin, we were tossed around L .A., we were tossing around Portland, and we were tossed around Seattle.

[2362] So it's kind of pretty similar, the places where we would live.

[2363] Those are the only places.

[2364] Because I was not happy living in Columbus, Ohio.

[2365] Yeah, well, there's a lot of great people in Columbus.

[2366] Sure.

[2367] But that winter could suck my dick.

[2368] Yeah, we were done with it.

[2369] Fuck you.

[2370] Giant mountains of fucking snow just piling on us.

[2371] I mean, I mean, Duncan Dressel, I'm texting them every day.

[2372] Fuck New York City because another blizzard just hit, you know, and I'm like, fuck you and fuck New York because Duncan just moved there.

[2373] I'm like, why'd you leave me, bitch?

[2374] You left me and went to a stupid spot that snows in the middle of goddamn March.

[2375] It's deep.

[2376] We're deep in to March, right?

[2377] What is it like the 16th or something?

[2378] 15th?

[2379] Fuck out of here.

[2380] Pant be snowing.

[2381] That's too late.

[2382] It's no more snow.

[2383] No, stop it.

[2384] It's not allowed to snow anymore.

[2385] Fuck this.

[2386] You get jammed in there for a couple of days.

[2387] But even that, like, I think New York is a weird combination of, weather in extreme population.

[2388] I think when you get that weather there's good things like what Seattle has is like a good amount of weather.

[2389] Like it gets rain but it only snows like a couple of days a year if that.

[2390] Like it only gets below 302.

[2391] We had actually a pretty weirdly heavy snowstorm this year.

[2392] Yeah I saw that.

[2393] But that was very unusual for the area.

[2394] Yeah.

[2395] During the winter it's more like just constant cold dreary rainy but I'm okay with that.

[2396] Like I walk out in the sun in L .A. here and I'm like, fuck this shit.

[2397] I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, look how white I am.

[2398] Look at this.

[2399] I mean, I don't, I don't want that.

[2400] Well, I love the overcast skies.

[2401] I love the rain.

[2402] Do you have reasons to be depressed?

[2403] I mean, I don't, I don't need a reason to be depressed.

[2404] I'll be depressed no matter where the fuck I am.

[2405] My surroundings might as well at least, uh, reflect it.

[2406] Um, you get used to the weather out here.

[2407] You get used to the sun, but I'll tell you one time I lived, I used to live in Palmdale.

[2408] Oh, did you?

[2409] So I kind of, I kind of understand the climate That place is a bit methy.

[2410] Palmdale gets a bit methy.

[2411] It gets a bit methy and in and outy.

[2412] There's a lot of in and outs out there.

[2413] It seems like the main food source might be in and out, and then quite methy.

[2414] Yeah.

[2415] I just remember, you know, I remember living out there and seeing like the, you know, it's just like, we want to live near L .A., but, you know, we don't really want to pay L .A. prices, so.

[2416] Exactly.

[2417] Palmdale.

[2418] And they just have to commute every day for an hour.

[2419] Which, if you see it in the morning, I drove up there once real early in the morning.

[2420] I was driving up towards Bakersfield and it was like, boy, I want to say like before dawn, so it was about 5 .30 in the morning and the amount of people coming towards L .A. from way past Bakersfield was fucking stunning.

[2421] Like, stunning.

[2422] Like, I really had no idea.

[2423] And it's people that can't afford housing in L .A. And so they commute and they commute and they have to get up really early in the morning to do it because at 5 .30 in the fucking morning it's bumper -to -bumper traffic Yeah, on the five.

[2424] It's nuts, man. Like, you ain't never seen anything like it.

[2425] When you just go, oh my God, like this is something that I didn't realize it was an issue.

[2426] All those people that can't afford to live in L .A. and they drive down.

[2427] And it's a lot of fucking people that live out there and drive down here for work a lot.

[2428] They should just build it.

[2429] They should put in some high -speed rail and just fucking...

[2430] Well, they're talking about doing more affordable housing along the way for people to just establish these artificial communities.

[2431] But there's a lot of resistance to that.

[2432] People that live in that area don't.

[2433] want those areas developed who the fuck knows now we're developers now we're talking we're talking developing we talked about we talked about we talked about jesus we talked about waffles does anything we should talk about land development same thing we should take back what we said today i thought i don't feel bad i feel i feel pretty good i feel pretty good about it i'm not i don't feel like there's anything that was said that needs to be like oh we we better revoke that before people take it the wrong way or some shit people definitely are going to fuck them there's nothing you can do about that.

[2434] Nope.

[2435] But it is what it is.

[2436] If people want to see your YouTube videos, your channel is still the amazing atheist.

[2437] That's right.

[2438] Or they can check out my podcast, Drunken Peasance.

[2439] And that is the podcast.

[2440] No matter what Bill Maher says, your podcast is essentially the podcast that sunk Milo.

[2441] That is correct.

[2442] It wasn't mine.

[2443] I mean, well, Milo sunk Milo more than anyone else did.

[2444] But thanks, dude.

[2445] Let's do this more often.

[2446] All right.

[2447] Thank you.

[2448] Thank you for having me. Bye, everybody.

[2449] See you.