#547 - Joe DeRosa

[0] There we go.

[1] The Joe Rogan experience.

[2] I like that chick.

[3] I messed up.

[4] Wow.

[5] That's the worst one ever.

[6] Congratulations.

[7] I didn't think you could fuck it up any more than that.

[8] I mean, it started off bad.

[9] The middle was bad.

[10] There was fucking two of them playing at the same time.

[11] It ended abruptly.

[12] Everything was wrong.

[13] Congratulations.

[14] If you did that in a movie, if you planned out the worst intro music for a podcast in a movie, you fucking...

[15] It sounded like you just took a random part out of like a primus.

[16] It sounded like a snippet from a primus song where it would have made sense in the whole picture but just the clip you're like it doesn't make sense yeah it's a kind of funny story that one of getting resolved but uh jamie called me the other day to tell me that one of my uh videos got taken down from the internet because someone used my words like my voice in a song and then copy wrote it so yeah they copyright my voice so when my voice the original version of that was online they put a copyright hit against me for my own voice christ that is unbelievable it was so hilarious i mean it got resolved like when i started tweeting about it like what the fuck man like this i don't know the details i don't know what the dude was thinking how he thought he could copyright my own voice what was the song it's like i don't know i didn't even listen to the song i heard the beginning of it where it sounds you know you there's a video that this guy um did uh called um american What is it called the American War Machine?

[17] American War Machine Paradigm shift on YouTube.

[18] Really cool guy.

[19] Met him in Vancouver.

[20] Very nice guy.

[21] Very talented guy too.

[22] Did this video.

[23] It's really cool.

[24] It's combining a bunch of rants with all this video of war stuff and stuff about U .S. history and how crazy the military industrial complex is.

[25] And the beginning of it is this rant that this guy took and put on his song.

[26] Then he copy wrote it.

[27] Like he didn't even change the fucking music that my friend Tosh had put on the thing.

[28] He didn't even change it.

[29] He just took that chunk, put it in his song, and then said, this is mine.

[30] It's like the shittiest version of buying a domain name to resell it.

[31] I own your domain name.

[32] Pepsi spice.

[33] Brian owned PepsiSpice .com.

[34] Do you remember when PepsiSpice came out?

[35] It's one of his best pranks ever.

[36] I swear to God, I thought it was one of the spice girls when you said that.

[37] I didn't know.

[38] What the fuck is Pepsi spice?

[39] Pepsi spice was this horrendous idea It's like someone decided to like let's make Pepsi But spicy Like a spicy Pepsi It was a Thanksgiving Pepsi It's for Thanksgiving So like yeah Is that still up?

[40] Is it up anywhere?

[41] Can you see all that stuff There's pieces of it God damn dude you gotta put that up in a blog You should put it up in a blog I think we shot it with a hard with a gun Oh did we when we blew up the hard drops So you So this is what he did I'll tell you the whole story He took PepsiSpice .com He bought the domain name Because this is in like What was it like 2000?

[42] It was a long time 10 years ago or something like It might have been earlier It might have been before a fearfair I don't think you were working for me man No I was just right when I moved here Okay Okay so this is what he did He bought Pepsispice .com before they did And then he started putting up a daily blog About how he's eating nothing but Pepsi spice And his health was rapidly deteriorating In these hysterical, cataclysmic ways.

[43] It was so funny, man. We were going to it every day, and the Pepsi Spice people were fucking shit in their pants.

[44] Like, what is this?

[45] And it was before anyone understood the Internet.

[46] No high -level executives in Pepsi or any of those major corporations, or very few of them, understood the Internet.

[47] If they did, they would have bought PepsiSpice .com way before they released it.

[48] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[49] But they didn't.

[50] So he puts this fucking blog up about him shitting blood and he's down to a whole.

[51] 120 pounds down.

[52] It's open.

[53] Yes, what were the things that you said?

[54] Do you remember?

[55] I remember I had open sores everywhere, and I was really good at Photoshop back then, so no one even knew that there was fake photoshop as much, you know?

[56] So I had, like, pictures of me with these big bloody things.

[57] I was hanging out with Lindsay Low Hand snorting mushrooms.

[58] Like, it was called Mokane, where we would, like, crush up mushrooms and snort.

[59] I love it.

[60] So, so ridiculous.

[61] Would you write the blog, like, if you were, like, the way a stranded island diary would read, Like day 36.

[62] Yeah, I did.

[63] It was just because it was after soup, that movie supersized me. So I pretty much just made it like this, like the seventh day.

[64] I'm starting to cough up with a lot of stomach acid and stuff like that.

[65] And then it just got worse and worse.

[66] And I think I ended up dying at the end.

[67] I never finished it because.

[68] Did they ever buy the domain from you?

[69] No, I owned it for a while.

[70] But then after a while you have a domain that no one even knows what Pepsi spices anymore.

[71] But yeah, like here's, So they never purchased it from you or told you to take it down?

[72] No, because they stopped selling Pepsi spice, so it didn't mean anything.

[73] Here's some of it that's insane.

[74] So I can't read it.

[75] It's all blurry on that.

[76] It's about doing mocan, and then it just finished my last two -liter.

[77] This guy has to get mochene for health reasons.

[78] It was really funny, man. That's really great.

[79] It was really funny, man. Oh, I got clogged armpits.

[80] That was right I couldn't sweat Yeah Oh that's great And it was believable Like nothing was too over the top at first It seemed so normal And then as his Journal got deeper and deeper It got more and more fucked up I love it It was really ridiculous That's incredible And it was a spicy It was a holiday spicy Not like a buffalo wings Yeah right It was like a cinnamony kind of a thing It was like you had too much ginger No, it was nasty.

[81] I hate spiced anything.

[82] I think spice rum is disgusting.

[83] Like, if I'm drinking with somebody in there like, I'll take a captain and Coke.

[84] I'm just like, get out of my face.

[85] You're fucking idiot.

[86] Well, what's that thing that you gave me the other day at the ice house?

[87] That super spicy liquor shot that we did?

[88] What the hell was that?

[89] Oh, fireball.

[90] Fireball.

[91] Disgusting.

[92] I kind of like it.

[93] It's great, and it's great because, you know, you take one before you hit the road, and it's like you helps your breath and everything.

[94] Yeah, yeah.

[95] I don't think so.

[96] Just keep some in the goal.

[97] compartment for you get pulled over I mean you know hold on a second officer yeah people think that like that stuff makes your breath taste good but basically anything that's alcohol makes your breath taste like shit because once it goes in your stomach your stomach is like what is this and that's when the disgusting breath comes up I don't like any of those like here's the weird part I love Yeagermeister Yeagermeister is my favorite shot on the planet earth Yeager bombs like the white trash that I truly am.

[98] Yeager bombs are my favorite shot on the planet.

[99] What do we have here right now, Jamie?

[100] Oh, please don't say...

[101] Let's do some shots.

[102] Oh, my God.

[103] I'm off the booze.

[104] Are you totally?

[105] 100 %?

[106] Not forever.

[107] I have fatty liver right now, so I had to stop drinking.

[108] All right, we won't do shots.

[109] God damn it.

[110] You guys can do one, though.

[111] Brian and I will do one shot.

[112] Oh, what?

[113] You do one.

[114] And you want to do one, Jamie?

[115] I'm going to really regret not doing this with you.

[116] No, you won't regret.

[117] In a week when I fall off the wagon.

[118] I should just drank with the guys last week.

[119] It's fatty liver.

[120] It means you have fat in your liver.

[121] How'd that happened?

[122] Probably from drinking and eating poorly for all these years.

[123] I mean, this is my, I'm in the, and I'm not in great shape.

[124] This is the best shape I've ever been in right now.

[125] Like, what you see.

[126] Why is it funny?

[127] Why are you laughing at the man?

[128] The fuck is making progress, and Brian's like, Bha!

[129] You call my primis!

[130] Yeah, this is the best shape I've ever been in, which isn't saying much.

[131] But, I mean, for you.

[132] years dude for years like my lifestyle was get completely shit face four or five nights a week go home get and i would do this night after night get like a double meat cheese steak doritos chocolate cake and a soda and literally lay in my bed wasted eating it and just pass out i would do that night after night after night i smoked you know it was it was just i think after a while you know i dabbled in the drugs here and there you know i think after a while just kind of a little bit a little bit catches up I'll try some Jameson, since it's got a bunch of signatures on it.

[133] Who signed on that thing?

[134] Courtesy and Bert.

[135] Oh, it's Chrysier brought it over.

[136] Yeah.

[137] There you go.

[138] He writes on the bottle so you know his hammer.

[139] It's getting you hammered.

[140] New York is kind of like that, though, right?

[141] New York is a place where a lot of people, Ari and I were talking about this last night.

[142] People go out after the shows and they drink.

[143] It's the fucking greatest.

[144] I miss it, dude.

[145] It was such an adventure, man. It was such an adventure.

[146] I remember having nights in New York.

[147] Where literally at like, you'd do a set, it'd be a Tuesday, and you'd do a set, you'd finish, it'd be like 9 .30, you'd be like, that's Tuesday, it's, there's nothing going on.

[148] This is, this is done.

[149] I'm going to go home.

[150] And then somebody would be like, hey, you know, though, I heard so -and -so might be having a little, do you want to just go over real quick and just check out what's happening, you know, across the, you know, across the way at the such and such bar?

[151] and you'd go over and the next thing you know dude it's 5 a .m. And there's been you know blow and whiskey and you're wasted and you're fucking a girl and it's the greatest man. Fuck that sounds good.

[152] It's the greatest.

[153] You're like where did this?

[154] I don't know and I want to do it now.

[155] You're just like where did this night come from?

[156] It's just that never happens in LA.

[157] Oh yes it does you need to hang around the comedy store.

[158] You fucking crazy?

[159] When does a wild night happen out here?

[160] You got to drive goddamn home every night.

[161] You can't...

[162] Oh, I see what you're saying.

[163] Yeah.

[164] Yeah, it's a different animal.

[165] And the bars close at two.

[166] Yeah.

[167] You know, it's...

[168] It's definitely a different animal.

[169] But, like, I mean, that was, like, the whole deal about the store was Coke, right?

[170] I mean, the Kinnison days...

[171] I talked to Maren again last night because Maren was at Ari's TV show taping.

[172] Ari's got a new TV show in Comedy Central called This Is Not Happening.

[173] And Maron did a story last night, and him and I talked again about the Kinnison days about doing blow with Kinnison to the point where he's not happening.

[174] heard voices in his head for a year Jesus Christ Jesus Christ What the fuck He was a young kid He was a young kid Hanging out of the store And he was partying with Kinnison And working at the store You know And that's the difference between And I'm not trying to shit on L .A But that's the difference between L .A. drugs and New York drugs New York drugs are like Wolf of Wall Street Hey, it's a fucking party We're at the beach We're going to the Hamptons We're at a bar Go home, pass out, get up hit your job tomorrow.

[175] LA drugs or it feels like River Phoenix there's a darkness there's a darkness to it it's something there's something like out here that feels much more like stripper fucking Cece DeVille you know CC DeVille he pulls out of poison reference do you know what I mean though yeah it's just something it's I don't know and I'm not I'm not doing a New York versus LA thing but like It's different, for sure.

[176] New York didn't feel like that.

[177] New York just felt way more just like, like, hey, it's in the neighborhood.

[178] Right.

[179] Fuck it.

[180] You know?

[181] I never lived in the city.

[182] So I didn't get that thing out of New York because when I first moved to New York, I needed a car because I was doing road gigs.

[183] And the only way I could make a living was to do the road.

[184] Like, I couldn't do the whole 15 shows in a night, like do a seven -minute spot here and then add up the $10, whatever the fuck you would get from each set.

[185] Because a lot, like, a tell used to do that.

[186] He would do 10, 15, sets a night all these little seven minute sets yeah and run all over the place and do it and just take cabs and stuff and that was life yeah but i i was getting these road gigs and that was the only way i was paying my money uh paying my uh bill so i lived in new rachel so for me i didn't do that that whole live in the city take cabs or take the subway everywhere oh shit i could totally get that though oh dude it was yeah it was just yeah new york new york like when you live i because i lived all over New York for nine years I started in Queens then I was up in Harlem You're in Harlem?

[187] Yeah You're in Harlem?

[188] Yeah Yeah Not because of Harlem Just because Talk to Daddy Talk to Daddy What do you want to know?

[189] I've bagged them all shapes and sizes Powerful Jaldarosa Look at that The kids getting around What's your favorite spot to live?

[190] I had a great time In every place I lived My least favorite was Queens, not because of Queens, but I had a fun time in Queens.

[191] I lived with Jay O 'Kerson out there, and it was fun, but we lived in like a very, he was, like, living with his baby's mother at the time, and they had a kid, and I was living with them, which was fine.

[192] It was actually very nice, but we were in a very, like, a very, like, sort of neighborhood -y suburban part of Queens.

[193] There wasn't anything you could, like, walk to or do.

[194] So that's the only reason I didn't like it.

[195] Harlem was fun, because it was my first time being on the island.

[196] And it was wild.

[197] I had these Irish neighbors, and I mean, any night of the week, you just knock on their door, and it, you know, and it's 4 a .m. And they're partying.

[198] Oh, dude, it was nuts.

[199] It was fucking crazy.

[200] The Irish Irish from Iran?

[201] They were so crazy.

[202] Rachel Feinstein, who's one of my close friends and a really funny comic and obviously Jewish, I brought her out one night with one of the Irish guys used to live next door to.

[203] And I'm like, you're going to love this guy.

[204] He's great.

[205] He's nuts.

[206] And we're hanging out for a while at this bar, and she comes over to me. She's like, okay, I'm going to go.

[207] And I go, why?

[208] She's like, your Irish friend is telling me that the numbers of the Holocaust were greatly exaggerated.

[209] Oh, God.

[210] Is he a Irish from Ireland?

[211] Oh, yeah.

[212] No. So, hi, the fucking Jews.

[213] There's a bunch of lies, a bunch of shite.

[214] He wasn't saying it like that.

[215] He wasn't saying it like, like, you fucking liars.

[216] There was somehow a strange sense of sympathy in his voice, as he was also saying he thought the numbers were exaggerated.

[217] But it was, the point is.

[218] that he was just a fucking lunatic.

[219] There was no filter on his brain.

[220] He wasn't saying it like, God damn it, I'm sick of hearing about it.

[221] It was just shit would just leak out of his mouth.

[222] You know, he was saying it like, have you ever really thought about it?

[223] Let's think about it.

[224] It's like, no, let's not think about it.

[225] Let's just not talk about it.

[226] That's one you can't fuck with.

[227] Some dude sent me this fucking email.

[228] Can you refute this video?

[229] Whenever someone sends you a YouTube video on anything, you got to go, okay, is there Is there other shit out there?

[230] Are there books?

[231] Have scientists look at this?

[232] Have scholars studied this?

[233] Like, you're sending me a YouTube video.

[234] You know, I'm going to listen to it.

[235] But since I'm not an expert on the Holocaust, I don't know what the fuck.

[236] Exactly.

[237] You know what's wrong in this video?

[238] But it was like they're talking about how different places couldn't be actually used for gas chambers and it was bullshit.

[239] They actually, a guy ruined his career because of this.

[240] I watched that documentary.

[241] That documentary is amazing.

[242] Fantastic documentary.

[243] It's called Dr. Death.

[244] Yeah.

[245] It's about this guy who was a, he was an engineer for these execution devices.

[246] And these, I don't know, let's, you know, Holocaust deniers, Holocaust revisionists, whatever you'd want to call them.

[247] I mean, I don't think they were denying the Holocaust, but they were saying that it was exaggerated.

[248] Yes.

[249] And this guy went over there, and because of these people, he gave this really fucked up, inaccurate, unscientific assessment of certain famous sites.

[250] where fucking hundreds of thousands of people documented were murdered and he was saying that it couldn't have happened and then it just his you know yeah he went to court over that yeah and then he lost his family it was his whole life it was it he was devastated it's not something you can be wrong about no no you don't want to roll the dice on the holocaust you know what I mean you know what's fucked yeah there's other holocaust that people don't even know about like the Armenian genocide right I didn't even know about the Armenian genocide there's a true story until I was in the octagon interviewing manny gamburian and i think you could tell by manny gamburian's name he might be armenian and man he's a you know great mma fighter and uh he's you know he's very proud to be from armenia and he was talking about the uh anniversary it was like he won on the anniversary of the armenian genocide he was talking about like like raising awareness for armenian genocide i was like i don't even know what this is and then i looked into it it this is fucking horrible horrible yeah i didn't know about that either embarrassing A million dead.

[251] I mean, it's just a terrible, terrible, terrible story.

[252] Yeah.

[253] I was driving, I live on the east side, and I was driving, I was writing on a TV show for a little while, and I was driving to work one morning, and I couldn't get to work because there was so much traffic, and I was just like, what the fuck is going on?

[254] It's 9 .45 a .m. on Hollywood Boulevard.

[255] Why is this so backed up?

[256] And then I saw people, like, walking around with these shirts on that said our wounds are still open.

[257] Whoa.

[258] And.

[259] And I feel like a real...

[260] I know I'm an asshole before I say this.

[261] I thought it was some kind of record release thing.

[262] And I was getting so mad.

[263] I thought like a rapper was having like a release day.

[264] And I was like, what the fuck is going on?

[265] Our wounds are still open.

[266] Our mouth are closed.

[267] Our fingers is moving.

[268] I rustle my toes.

[269] Oh, oh.

[270] My dick is pretty.

[271] My teeth is gold.

[272] You try to buy my album, but the shit's already sold out, son, freestyle, 2014, much love.

[273] Guess what?

[274] That's not what it was, dude.

[275] What was it?

[276] It was for the anniversary of the Armenian Genocide because I was driving through Little Armenia, and I didn't know.

[277] And then I got to work, and somebody was like, this is what this is.

[278] And I was like, oh, Jesus.

[279] I felt so bad, man. It's scary shit, man. When you hear about stuff like that, and you're like, wait a minute.

[280] That was 1915?

[281] 1915.

[282] Armenian civilians escorted by armed Ottoman soldiers are marched through to a prison in nearby Mesritch, present -day Alagurch, it's impossible to pronounce.

[283] 1915, between a million and 1 .5 million people were murdered.

[284] Wow.

[285] 24th of April, 1915.

[286] Now, do you think the other one stole?

[287] mentioned like this one for instance because they they are so small in size compared to the number of deaths with the jewish holocaust i don't know because jewish holocaust's like six million this is a one point five which it was a ton of people but i mean you know i don't know i wonder if that's why it gets they they all get so overshadowed it's a good question i mean um i don't look it's anytime it's that's a lot of fucking people 1 .5 million people i can't imagine how it could ever be overshadowed i just i'm ashamed that i learned about it while i was talking to somebody well that's that's even that's why i asked the question because it's like i don't even i can't justify in my head how something like that would get overshadowed other than i guess maybe this other one was so much bigger i don't know man maybe it's because the jews control the media jill the rose they know how to spread a story it's kind of like when like you know when phara faucet died but the michael jackson died in the same day.

[288] He got all the press.

[289] They died in the same day?

[290] They died like on the same day and Farrah Fossa got nothing.

[291] Remember that?

[292] Poor Farrah.

[293] I know it's a trite parallel to draw.

[294] She didn't even fuck any kids.

[295] Allegedly.

[296] I know.

[297] I know.

[298] I'm not convinced he did still.

[299] I'm still not convinced he did.

[300] I have a theory.

[301] It's a very bad theory.

[302] I'm going to tell you right now.

[303] If you were Joe wrong, it's a moron, I agree with you.

[304] Okay, I'm on your side.

[305] I think I'm a moron too.

[306] But I think there's a possibility that he might have been what they call a Castrata.

[307] Do you know what a castrata is?

[308] Castrata music, I think I'm saying it right, is a type of music where they would castrate young boys.

[309] And they would castrate young boys so that they would sing this incredible pitch that didn't sound manly at all.

[310] It's very bizarre.

[311] It's very freaky.

[312] You can hear it online.

[313] Haven't we played it on the podcast before?

[314] Let's play some just for Derosis, because he's never heard it before.

[315] Okay.

[316] But there's a style of music that was created by castrating boys.

[317] Because when you remove their testicles, they don't produce testosterone, and they have this weird sort of, you know, it's this androgynous sort of sound to their voice.

[318] And it's feminine, but like a little bit masculine.

[319] And it's very similar to how Michael Jackson is.

[320] If you see Michael Jackson's brothers, they look manly as fuck.

[321] And they sound manly.

[322] Yeah, they sound manly.

[323] He stayed really slender.

[324] He stayed like a guy who had no testosterone.

[325] He didn't look like a man who had testosterone.

[326] He was Rick really slender.

[327] I think this is a great theory.

[328] It's not a bad theory.

[329] I think it might have happened to me, by the way.

[330] Well, it's also the thing about these men, or these, these, they're men now, but they say that they were molested by Michael Jackson.

[331] No one says he fucked them.

[332] No. It was all like weird touching stuff.

[333] Yeah.

[334] And I, I don't I don't think there was anything going on there.

[335] I think that's why he longed for childhood.

[336] I mean, it's a terrible theory.

[337] Again, I'll tell you right now.

[338] It's not backed by any facts.

[339] I don't think it's a terrible theory.

[340] But listen, this is a cast Strata.

[341] This is a long time ago, by the way.

[342] This is like, was it 19, early 1900s?

[343] These recordings, I mean, they don't do this anymore unless I don't know about it.

[344] But there's, there's something to Michael Jackson's voice when you listen to the way he would sing that, fuck, man, that doesn't sound like any guy I've ever heard.

[345] No, no, it's...

[346] Why?

[347] Tell him that it's human nature.

[348] Why?

[349] Why does she do in that way I tried to do thriller once at karaoke And I almost had a fucking aneurysm It's so high It's so like you can't Try to sing it Try to sing the course No without Tealer And no one's gonna save you from the beast About to strike But do it without doing the falsetto You didn't sing it in falsetto Just try I can't fucking sing anyway Okay here this is terrible Here we go because this is thrill I'm gonna save you're doing falsetto well I can't do anything else I can't sing I can't sing it's impossible it's impossible to hit those notes like it's dude it's past Getty Lee it's like way past Getty Lee well Getty Lee who I love still sounds like an odd man I love Rush but when you listen to like living in the limelight when he's singing that song he sounds like an odd man it doesn't sound like something that can't be achieved when you hear Michael Jackson saying you go something's going on here and I can't fucking put my finger on it it's not it's not male no yeah it sounds womanly well I mean it's it's and that's forever been the joke about him well I think I think there might be something to my stupid theory and I think it's because I have this connection with I have this like weird thing about him because I've always wanted to know like what makes a person want to stay a child because I've always been accused rightly so of being immature I'm very immature but it's almost on purpose right because that when I grew up I saw these people that were mature that were living these mature lives and they were fucking miserable man they suffered all day there was no reward they came home to a wife they hated they lived a shit life and a lot of them died young I just I saw it in front of me I didn't want to do this I tried to figure out every way I could to rebel against work.

[350] And I remember seeing like this guy and seeing Michael Jackson how brilliant he was, but how odd it was and how he always had like these amusement park rides at his house and invited little kids over.

[351] And I'm like what was wrong?

[352] It's beautiful that the guy wanted to help kids.

[353] It's beautiful that the guy always worked with these people that were sick and these kids that were dying.

[354] It is beautiful.

[355] But what was it that connected him so much to childlike things?

[356] Like why was he so childlike?

[357] Why did he never have, I mean, he had children, but they weren't really his children.

[358] They were white kids.

[359] They're fully white kids.

[360] If you look at him today, you can say, well, these didn't come from his DNA.

[361] They might have been his children, but...

[362] Yeah, it's very odd.

[363] It's very odd also how much his children are out of the limelight.

[364] There's no connection with them to Michael Jackson.

[365] No, none.

[366] None whatsoever.

[367] Which is good.

[368] I mean, they're just kids.

[369] They don't, you know, they don't deserve it.

[370] I do think it is good, but I mean, even like with other celebrities that attempted to keep the kid out of this spotlight like you know m &m doesn't aside from talking about her doesn't like put his daughter out there right uh and he's like staunchly opposed to it yet we all kind of know what she looks like we all know who she is like if you saw her the same thing with the cobane and corny loves kid um but michael jacks it's like i couldn't pick those kids out of a fucking lineup well that's good i hope that that's because the family sheltered the kids from all the crazy people that i mean you want to talk crazy people michael jackson was a star on a level that we can't even begin to comprehend no i mean this is a guy who couldn't leave the fucking house if he left the fucking house there would be a swarm of people yeah i you know i met a girl one more round sir let's do this again yes bryan you're going in be a pussy i knew a girl that uh that uh that new uh brittney spears whoa like In recent years, I mean.

[371] And she was, I was like, what's, what she like?

[372] And she goes, she goes, she's really down to earth.

[373] She goes, she's really cool considering, especially who she is.

[374] And she was like, dude, she literally can't go anywhere in the entire world without being known.

[375] Like, I can't even fathom that.

[376] Stanhope is buddies with Johnny Depp.

[377] Johnny Depp's a Stanhope fan.

[378] Johnny Depp contacted Stanhope about some project and got together and started hanging out with him in England.

[379] and he realized when they were hanging out I was like he goes Oh he can't go anywhere Like you can't he can't go anywhere He doesn't go anywhere He brings a chef over to his home When he was over at his house Um Not Keith Richards Who's in the Rolling Stones Keith Richards Mick Jagger The other one Who's the other one?

[380] Ron I don't know Who the fuck is in the Rolling Stones Who's the other guy Ron Wood?

[381] Is that his name?

[382] Shit What do we be retarded How do we not know Who's in the Rolling Stones?

[383] I'm trying to remember the drummer's name and I can't remember his name down i'm trying to okay rolling stones who's the fuck is in the rolling stones god isn't that funny you only remember keith richards i was never a big stones guy so i dare you yeah me neither i don't dare the bolt of you i love the logo though with the lips or the tongue or whatever the fuck even on their website they just expect you to know who the fuck everybody is yeah back in the day that was sex sexual as a kid growing up you're a weird kid i think the logos would stop me from getting into the logos where it stopped from me uh you know what i should shut the fuck up right here because I probably shouldn't even say what happened I was about I probably it's probably good okay Ron Wood that is his name um anyway the point is they were all hanging out and Stanhope realized oh Johnny Depp is too famous right he's gotten way too famous like and it apparently was from those Pirates of the Caribbean movies from there on out there's no more going to restaurants dude I when when Chappelle came back from Africa when he went when he like you know ran off from the TV show and everything and when he came back he went went on this tour and I toured with him and I know uh Dave isn't you know Johnny Depp but he's pretty fucking famous you know and uh he uh it was crazy man because we were doing these shows and I was opening for him for like two weeks and he'd literally just be like want to go the mall man and I'd be like yeah let's go and he'd be like all right let's go and literally I would walk to the mall with Dave Chappelle no security nothing and cars were screeching in the fucking streets.

[384] People were jumping out of their cars.

[385] They were running up to...

[386] We went to a foot locker in the mall.

[387] We had to leave through the back exit because so many people were flooding in because he was...

[388] The worst part was we went, a pack of people followed us to the hotel.

[389] Followed him.

[390] I was just there.

[391] But a pack of people like fucking dogs followed him to the hotel.

[392] They're all going, I'm Rich James, bitch.

[393] Yes.

[394] A bunch of white dudes A backward baseball hats on Yeah No, it was all like It was like a lot of like fat white guys I remember And uh And uh And uh They followed us there was like 30 people I'm not exaggerating We got to the hotel The the concierge at the hotel Had to literally hold the people back So we could get onto the hotel Or into the elevator And as the doors were shutting A guy got around the concierge's and ran up And literally put his phone Almost against Chappelle's face And go say something funny my friends on the phone say something funny and Dave just kind of stared at this guy and we got on the elevator and the door shut and I go dude I don't know how you didn't just lay that dude out man that was like the rudest thing I've ever seen anybody do to a person and he was just like what he gonna do man that's yeah that's kind of weird dude that's why he need to stay high when you're that famous yeah all day but he gave me the best advice ever uh that I I talk about this in my act a little bit.

[395] Like, I tell the story, but we were hanging out after, we did a show one night in Cleveland at this big amphitheater.

[396] And after the show, I'm talking to these two girls.

[397] And they're like, you're so funny.

[398] And I'm like, why don't you come back to the hotel, you know?

[399] Come hang out.

[400] Dave might stop by.

[401] You know, I was trying to say that.

[402] Yeah.

[403] Yeah, I was trying to pick up these chicks.

[404] He actually was going to stop by, though.

[405] But imagine if you were in the middle of Bonner and she heard Dave's voice, and she's like, get off me. Yeah, exactly.

[406] Yeah.

[407] Imagine if he's cock -blocking you by standing in the live room.

[408] I'm Rick James, bitch.

[409] Oh my God, is that him?

[410] Get out of me. Get out of me!

[411] I need to meet him!

[412] He's not going anywhere.

[413] I'll come in 30 seconds.

[414] He was an awesome...

[415] No, rape!

[416] He was an awesome wingman, because he was, he's married, and he was like a great dude about it.

[417] He was just like, you know, he would sit there and, like, talk to you, you know, with the chicks, and then, like, he'd peel off, and then you'd be there with the chicks.

[418] man it was fucking beautiful and the chicks would go you must be special oh dude well they also just saw you open for dude it was so oh look at you you're glowing oh dude it was really it was nice it was so happy it was nice it was really nice so i was sorry to these two girls after one of the shows in cleveland and uh and i'm like come back to the hotel and they're they're being wishy -washy and i'm like all right whatever and they take my number and i go backstage and i'm bitching to dave and the the tour bus driver about these chicks and i'm like you know they fucking just being on wishy -washy and I don't know this and I don't know it's just annoying just fucking hang out if you're gonna hang out and the bus driver goes Joe I'm gonna tell you what you need to do man you need to walk up to that girl look her dead in the eye and say do you want to suck my dick or not right and I was like terrible advice I was like okay and I was considering it for a second and then Chappelle goes don't do that shit man don't do it you're gonna fuck around Joe you're gonna get famous one of these days 10 years from now that bitch She'll be on hard copy going, Joe DeRosa told me to suck his dick in Cleveland once.

[419] Well, the reality is, even if that didn't happen, there's going to be a girl, if you get famous, that just remembers a story that never happened at all about Joe DeRosa telling her to suck your cock.

[420] Right.

[421] I've had fucking people tell me stories about me that absolutely didn't exist.

[422] That never happened.

[423] Really?

[424] I had fucking on the podcast.

[425] Remember Crash was telling a story about a, fight in New York that never took place about how I told this guy can you handle that guy I'll take the other two and I went over and kicked some guy in the head never happened none of it happened really he was like arguing with me that happened I'm like dude I'm telling you I didn't I haven't fought anybody since I haven't had a street fight since I was in high school all right I've avoided every single physical altercation outside of competition since high school so this never happened it's impossible that it happened that's a great like rumor though about you makes you sound like a killer It makes me sound like an asshole I don't think it makes you sound like an asshole It totally makes me sound like an asshole Listen whenever you see a bunch of people You're like, can you take that guy who take it Why when you just turn around and get the fuck out of there That's the smart move The smart guy walks out of there See I'm I'm a little Fucking wisp of grasp That can't fight at all Whisp of grass That's the most fucking The weakest thing you could ever be I'll stand up straight That's such funny descriptive A wisp of grass I remember seeing a tell once on stage, and there were three fat girls in the front row.

[426] Or no, I think it was two thing girls and a fat girl in the middle.

[427] And I don't remember why he said this to the fat girl, but it was something about how she didn't think she was fat.

[428] And he goes, oh, I know, right?

[429] Look at you sitting there like a little blade of grass.

[430] A little blade of grass.

[431] I think he's fat shaming.

[432] That's outlawed now.

[433] That's not cool, guys.

[434] On the internet, fat shaming is fine.

[435] fucking male hypocrisy slash patriarchy slash privilege slash keep going.

[436] But I, so I'm, I would love a story like that.

[437] I would, like, my point is, is I'm a pussy.

[438] I would love to be in a situation where I literally go, I can take this guy.

[439] Can you take that guy?

[440] I would just never be in that situation.

[441] Why do people make stuff up like that, things that never happened?

[442] I had a guy come up to me to party and he goes, my dentist played golf with you.

[443] And I go, no, no, it wasn't me. He goes, oh, yeah, you're the guy from Fear Factor.

[444] My dentist played golf with you.

[445] I go, dude, I've never played golf, ever.

[446] In my whole life, I've never played golf.

[447] It's probably that other Rogan, that sports newscaster, and it's just like, you know what I mean?

[448] He probably plays golf, Fred Rogan.

[449] Fred Rogan, yeah, it may be.

[450] It might be.

[451] But he was insisting.

[452] It was the Fear Factor guy.

[453] He was insisting.

[454] Yeah, I don't know, man. I don't know.

[455] If I ever reached your level, like, I'll be able to relate to these stories.

[456] I wish I had rumors floating around about me. I got nothing going on right now.

[457] There's rumors from high school that never happened that I talked to a friend who knew a friend of mine from high school, things that never happened.

[458] Like what?

[459] Just violent things, mostly violent things.

[460] Were you always this guy, like a cut fucking MMA type dude?

[461] Well, from high school on I did martial arts, like pretty religiously.

[462] That was my whole life from like 15 on.

[463] Am I crazy?

[464] Because I remember when I would see you, the news radio i don't remember you being jack like this though were you cut up like that there was a whole videos of me taking my shirt off i'd wrestle andy dick once and fucking remember that you probably find that yeah i wasn't as big i didn't really lift weights until i started doing jiu jitzu and i started doing jiu jitzu in 96 so that was when i started lifting weights and i started hanging out with eddie bravo my my good friend edie bravo my best friend like we're on 99 2000 somewhere around then and we started lifting weights pretty seriously right after that, because I started really getting into Jiu -Jitsu.

[465] And one of the things about Jiu -Jitsu is just protecting your joints and protecting your back and protecting your neck and all these different parts of your body.

[466] And that adding muscle to your body keeps you from getting injured.

[467] It's kind of important.

[468] Okay.

[469] And also it gives you more strength to execute moves.

[470] It's just like, Jiu -Jitsu is a very, very grueling activity, and the stronger you are, I mean, it's most important to be technical to understand the technique, but the stronger you are, the better.

[471] So I started lifting weights pretty seriously around then.

[472] So this is me when I didn't even lift weights.

[473] This was like...

[474] Was this from the show?

[475] This is from news radio, yeah.

[476] I like how I ask that.

[477] No, it's a real match between you and Andy Dick.

[478] That's what I looked like with no weightlifting at all.

[479] That was just kickboxing.

[480] Jesus.

[481] That was pretty good.

[482] It looks like somebody fell into my little.

[483] Tickle's name kicks my ass.

[484] Fights like I would.

[485] I was just about to say the same thing to you, Joe.

[486] All right, dude, that's it.

[487] Yeah, it is it.

[488] Tick, Tick.

[489] So stupid.

[490] Shut it off now.

[491] How dare you?

[492] So.

[493] I like that show.

[494] Yeah, that was like probably 1990.

[495] Well, Phil was alive.

[496] So it was before 90s.

[497] I think he was murdered in 98.

[498] So before that, it was probably 97, 96.

[499] So, no, there was no lifting weight back then.

[500] It was just kickboxing.

[501] Jesus, man, you were ripped, dude.

[502] You still are.

[503] You want to talk about it?

[504] Take your pencil.

[505] Do you even, I got nothing, I got nothing to add to it.

[506] It's nothing I have anything to say about.

[507] Well, I don't understand it.

[508] Like, I don't mean that in a derogatory way.

[509] No, I understand.

[510] That was my, I went down a different path, you know?

[511] Like, I don't understand.

[512] I have friends that do extreme sports.

[513] You know, like, they do, like, they jump bikes and shit like that.

[514] motorbikes and stuff like that and do flips and they're all busted up and like i know this dude eric apple his wrist is he broke his wrist so bad it's like an inch shorter it's like he's how all the ligaments and he went on from that to do mhm a fighting just crazy crazy people like jesus christ but that's that's how he grew up you know i i literally grew up doing martial arts competition so that was my i mean it made me a way more balanced person if that makes any sense i would have way more fucked up given my circumstances i needed something to throw all my energy in i just had so much angst and anxiety and insecurity i needed something and i found it in martial arts but it just happened to be the thing from me at that time so that's why you know it's not like it makes perfect sense it's not for everybody you know it can help you though if you're looking for something to do to give you some physical exercise and also it gives you a kind of understanding of your your body and fear i wish i had uh i wish i had been pushed in that direction at a younger age at a young age uh because i'm too old for it now and i how old you i'm 37 you're not too old for it i my friend's dad started doing jiu jitsu when he was 57 really got his black belt i think he was like 65 or 66 he got his black belt yeah maybe i should i don't know i i have such terrible anxiety and angst issues still and yeah i mean like therapy for it and stuff but what's like the main i mean if you wanted to talk about this but sure do you have a main fear a thing that fucks with you uh my fear of death is pretty uh tremendous pretty tremendous and and extremely irrational um it's it's almost crippling it's almost crippling wow have you done any psychedelics like heavy doses of mushrooms or heavy doses of yeah i don't know what heavy doses are but i mean i you know i've i took my share of mushrooms and acid through the years uh It'll open your hand and show me what's the biggest dose you've ever taken.

[515] You know, like...

[516] No, that's not good enough, son.

[517] You're showing me a little tiny, like, quarter size.

[518] You know, I remember tripping for, like, 11, 12 hours on acid, like, stuff like that.

[519] Well, I don't have any experience with acid, but I do have experience with mushrooms.

[520] And my experience is that there's a big difference between, like, a couple caps and stems and a fucking handful.

[521] Uh -huh.

[522] It's a handful.

[523] You want, like, five grams.

[524] Okay.

[525] Yeah.

[526] Yeah.

[527] When you do like those big trips, that's when you just go, it just obliterates your ego.

[528] And you go just deep into the realm of perception and of understanding your position in this great thing that you see in front of you and how much your position in this great thing, this great thing being the entire universe itself.

[529] How much of your position is distorted by your own ability to recognize.

[530] your surroundings and your need to survive and then your ego which comes into place and wants you to get laid wants you to be fed wants you to stay you know alive and competitive like all those variables they fuck with your your ability to understand the the true nature of reality and sometimes a real ego obliterating experience is what you need just to kind of put it in place see the problem is now for me and i i had some uh brushes with that in my time that i would do these heavier psychedelics but my problem is now is that my anxiety is such an issue that I wouldn't be able to handle it I can't even handle pot now I mean if I went into a hard trip like that I would start freaking out I turn two inward I'm a pretty lethargic guy so I've always been more of a fan of stimulants than then barbiturates and depressants which is what eventually pulled me away from marijuana because my problem with marijuana is I'll smoke it and I go deep into my head and it's bad.

[531] If I had smoked any weed before I came in here today, this would literally, I would be panicking right now.

[532] Right now.

[533] Because I feel, I feel a general anxiety just being here.

[534] Really?

[535] Yeah.

[536] Why?

[537] What is the general anxiety?

[538] Just anytime you're talking to people or that you're online?

[539] I have, I have, I definitely have, you know, self -esteem issues and, and, excuse me, issues about my own achievement and worth so when I do something like this for the first time I'm the first few times I am nervous because I'm like don't fuck it up don't fuck this up this is a guy you don't know because I don't really know you you know what I mean we know each other kind of but we're like I mean I consider you like a comrade a colleague a fellow comic every comic that I know that's a comic like You get sanctioned by Jimmy Norton or any of those guys.

[540] You're in.

[541] You can stay at my house.

[542] I don't even know you, but if you want to stay at my house, you can stay at my house.

[543] That's how I feel.

[544] Thank you.

[545] And I honestly feel the same way about you.

[546] And not because I've known you from TV for longer than we've known each other personally.

[547] Like I feel the same way.

[548] I feel like we're part of a fraternity.

[549] And not just because of comedy, but it's a little more specified for us, I think, because we're part of the O &A camp.

[550] And, you know, that's a special camp.

[551] It was a special camp to be a part of.

[552] it still is you know i don't know if they're ever going to sort that out but it's not the same i love jimmy and i love opi and they're great together and i listen to it all the time but god damn it i miss anthony it's it is it is a bummer it's a real bummer you know that's that's a well let me answer your yeah answer your question yeah sorry yeah um the um but uh but so i feel like you know every everything i do for instance right now in la And trust me, it's not a terrible anxiety right now.

[553] I was excited about this, too.

[554] Like, a lot of it is just excitement and interpreting the excitement.

[555] But, you know, I'm doing a part on a TV show right now that looks like it might last for a little while.

[556] I don't know yet because it's sort of episode to episode.

[557] But with something like that, like every time I do it, I'm like, don't fuck this up, dude.

[558] This is your, you don't, you know what I mean?

[559] And that's what I do.

[560] And it's terrible.

[561] It's a terrible, terrible anxiety.

[562] It doesn't prevent me from performing.

[563] It doesn't prevent me from delivering, but it's there.

[564] And it's the kind of thing where if something does go wrong, I have a very hard time just leaving it behind me and going, it was a bad day at work, dude.

[565] Let it go.

[566] You know, I did a charity event last night, and it wasn't a great show.

[567] And this was a huge step for me today.

[568] I woke up with anxiety about it at 4 .30 in the morning.

[569] Why'd you do this bit?

[570] Why'd you do that?

[571] And I was just like, dude, you didn't do anything wrong.

[572] You just weren't the best choice for that gig.

[573] That's it.

[574] It's okay.

[575] You didn't do anything wrong.

[576] And I think most people go down that road first, and my whole life I've never gone down that road first.

[577] I go down the blaming myself road first.

[578] Well, let me be honest with you then.

[579] I've had shows where I had a great set for 90 minutes, and I'll close badly or fuck up something, and I can't sleep.

[580] Yep.

[581] I'll wake up at the middle of the night, and I'm just in a hurricane.

[582] Yeah.

[583] A hurricane of anguish and being upset.

[584] But I think that's because I care.

[585] Yeah.

[586] It's because I care.

[587] Yeah.

[588] Because I don't want anybody leaving a show ever and feeling like, eh, I don't ever want.

[589] I know they paid money.

[590] That drives me fucking crazy.

[591] It's horrible.

[592] Babysitters, they planned it out.

[593] They saved their money for that.

[594] You know, I don't want anyone to ever think that I ever take that for granted, because that would drive me fucking crazy.

[595] If I went to see someone and I knew they didn't give a shame, it and they took it for granted, that's one of the worst things that performer can never do with their audience.

[596] Right.

[597] Disrespect their audience.

[598] Right.

[599] I brought this up before, but I'll bring it up again.

[600] It's what I called the Joe DiMaggio principle.

[601] Right.

[602] Because I remember this quote when I was a kid.

[603] Joe DiMaggio was like 40 years old, sliding into third base.

[604] And the guy on the other team goes, you know, why are you playing so hard?

[605] You're already in the Hall of Fame.

[606] And he goes, because someone out there is someone in the audience that hasn't seen Joe DiMaggio play, and I don't want to let him down.

[607] That's so great.

[608] Lori Kilmartin said once to me, years ago I was opening for her in Philadelphia and I said how do you how do you manage to go out and show the same enthusiasm every set because I noticed throughout the weekend that she was doing that and I was having a hard time with that at that point in my career and she said just think about it she's like you're a fan of comedy haven't you ever seen a comedian that makes you laugh so hard you want to fall over and I go yeah and she goes there's a chance somebody in the audience that's going to happen because of you tonight yeah so you should always have that in your head and that's that's the DiMaggio thing you just said you know what I mean it's a lot of times just a perception issue like how you deal with things like um i had a friend that came up to me once uh we were in um Vegas and uh I brought him to some fights and uh after the fights it gets pretty fucking crazy it's you know there's 18 ,000 people there and try to wake your way through the casino good luck you know you're gonna get stopped every five seconds and he was like does it get annoying I go well there's certain times where I have things that I have to do where I have to leave like I have to go to a show right or I have to meet someone for dinner I mean, I have to be there by X amount of time.

[609] I just have to say no. But for the most part, it's just a bunch of people being nice.

[610] Right.

[611] But my attitude about it is always that every time I meet someone, I reset.

[612] Because it's like, I don't ever think of it as like, oh, here's another person.

[613] Here's another person.

[614] Every time I meet someone, I reset.

[615] Right.

[616] So it's a total new experience because I know it's a new experience for them.

[617] And if I don't, I don't accept that, I can't always say yes.

[618] I can't always call your friend.

[619] I can't always fucking take picture.

[620] I have to go sometimes.

[621] Sometimes it's unavoidable.

[622] There's 100 people, and you've got to be out of there because you're supposed to be somewhere in five minutes.

[623] Right.

[624] I can't be late for a show.

[625] I can't be late for an interview or an appearance that I have to do or whatever the fuck that's obligated.

[626] Yeah, no, and I think that reset mentality is great.

[627] Like, you know, when I first started doing O &A, Burr told me years ago, he was like, listen, here's what you do.

[628] He goes, you're doing the show now.

[629] Guys are going to start coming out to see you.

[630] You sell your merch, you shake everybody's hand, and he goes, and talk and just talk he goes you know it sometimes you can't spend a lot of time with everybody but talk to everybody say hello and he was like and that's what you do dude like and and not that I would have done any different but him saying that really cemented it into my head he's a great guy yeah and I've seen him do it and I've always done it if there are fucking two people in the audience that wanted to see me and it was the the shittiest show of all time because there were 98 that didn't give a fuck about who I was and heckling or whatever I saw spend time with those two guys and talk to them.

[631] You know what I mean?

[632] And I talk to them like, you know what I mean?

[633] Like, like, I'm talking to you.

[634] Yeah, that's how it should be, you know?

[635] Burst said once something that I thought was really cool.

[636] He said, we were just talking about how everything's going really well for him and he's real happy.

[637] And he says, you know, I remember when I was a kid and I would, I'd go to see a band and then, you know, the new song sucked and I just wasn't into it, they put on a bad show, and I felt like they fucked me. And he goes, and I know that if people come out to see me, their fans, and I'm not going to fuck them.

[638] I'm not going to fuck them.

[639] I'm going to write hard.

[640] I'm going to work hard.

[641] I'm going to get out there and give it my best.

[642] I'm not going to, I don't want to fuck them.

[643] That's a great attitude.

[644] It is.

[645] It is.

[646] I mean, he works, he works so hard, and he gives his, he delivers to his fans what they deserve.

[647] I think everybody, excuse me, I think everybody, many comics do that but i think again like what was always special to me about or one of the things that was always special to me about being part of that o and a fraternity was that those comics all did that yeah everybody delivered you know everybody had the mentality of it's a new year i have to go back to the to that city again i better have a new hour or it better be the much much better version of last year's hour yeah you know because i'm about to tape it or whatever it is you know but uh and It was, Patrice was like that, obviously, Norton, you know, like these guys, you know, you know, burr, like they, that's what they, that's what they all did, you know?

[648] One of the great things about the Opie and Anthony show was that it was a hangout.

[649] Like, even if like Ricky Jervase came on or some big star came on, if you and I were on the show, we would still be on the show.

[650] Right.

[651] And he would sit in there and everybody knew to lay back and let someone talk or occasionally everybody would jump in.

[652] I mean, I mean, it was completely free form.

[653] Yeah.

[654] And because of that, there was a lot of ball busting.

[655] Like when Bobby Kelly's on, the guy gets fucking tortured.

[656] When Voss is on, he gets tortured.

[657] And because of that, like, getting tortured, like, everybody has to, like, mine their peas and cues and be on the ball.

[658] You've got to cover all your bases.

[659] It's the snake pit, man. Yeah, whereas if you do a lot of other radio shows, even big shows, it's one guest at a time.

[660] Right.

[661] You know, and you don't get tossed into, like, that sort of comedy seller table sort of scenario or, you know, the parking lot at the store.

[662] or, you know, the bar at the improv, like, is that...

[663] I always said when you went on O &A and it was a packed room, you know, when you walked in and it was DePaolo, Bobby, you know, or Burr and Patrice, or whoever, when it was a packed room on O &A, I always said it was like getting dropped into the...

[664] It was like in Raiders of the Lost Dark when he hits the ground in that fucking snake pit.

[665] And it's just like, you better, like, have your torch up and be ready because they are coming at you from every fucking direction.

[666] snakes i hate snakes yeah yeah asps very dangerous but it was also just fun you know it's like exciting to be in that room with voss and norton and everybody's like everyone's you know norton says something funny and voss will say something funny everybody's like chiming in and laughing and it's just it's so exciting it was it was those those times were the hardest times i've ever laughed in my life and i remember when i would have stints where i would quit drinking for a while and I'd say like how fuck am I going to have fun if I'm not going out drinking you know I would go oh that's right I laughed the hardest I ever did in my entire life at 645 in the morning the other day dead sober yeah because I was on opi and Anthony it's not a bagel yeah yeah watching bobo pull his fucking pubes out or whatever you know what I mean like literally crying laughing like to you couldn't breathe you know so it's like I was like okay it's possible it's possible to have sober fun obviously well hanging out with comedians i mean that's the one thing me and stanhope were talking once and he said uh i could quit comedy but i could never quit hanging out with comics that's a great way to put it yeah we were just laughing and fucking fucking around me and we're we're just being ridiculous and making each other howl and uh we were just both shaking our head and he goes i could never stop hanging out with comics uh that's great you know like he goes i don't fucking quit comedy i could quit comedy just stop her for me. Fuck it.

[667] I could just fucking smoke cigarettes and suck and drink beer and watch football.

[668] I could do that.

[669] He goes, but I don't want to stop hanging out with comedians because it's like, I think a guy like Stan O 'Ball so you get to a point where you realize I mean, yeah, it's fun to do shows and yeah, but nothing's going to change.

[670] You're not going to...

[671] Yeah.

[672] And the best thing about hanging out with comics to me is like, it's like the rings of hell.

[673] Because there's hanging out with comedians.

[674] Then there's hanging out with the comedians.

[675] That are, you know, that are in.

[676] That are the real comics, not just general comedians that are the pro guys or whatever and girls.

[677] Then it's the ring below that, which is like, these are the pros that are fucking cool, you know, that aren't egomaniacs or that.

[678] Then there's the ring under that where it's like, these are the pros that are ready to trash anything you want to talk about.

[679] Everybody on the other three levels would scoff at what we're about to say.

[680] Yeah.

[681] But we'll go after anything down here on this.

[682] on this little ring and it's the best yeah it's the best you know well there's an art form to saying fucked up shit yeah you know that you don't even necessarily really mean but especially when a bunch of comics are getting together and they're vibing off of each other there's that thing that we do where you'll i'll try to say something like tony the other day what the fuck did he say about joan rivers when joan rivers died oh if you hurry up you can still get in bed with i was supposed to do uh in bed with joan it was like she was doing a podcast Well, she would do it from her bed.

[683] Yeah.

[684] And I was scheduled to do it, and it got moved around, and I was waiting to reschedule it, and then she died.

[685] And it made me sad, because I was a huge fan.

[686] Yeah, me too.

[687] And Tony Hitchcliff goes, if you hurry up, you can still get in bed with her.

[688] It's not too late.

[689] She probably hasn't started rotting yet.

[690] Oh, my God.

[691] I don't think you said that, but do I do.

[692] You know, but you can't say that in normal company, but amongst comedians, you know, it was, to me, it made me feel good.

[693] good that he said that you know god you know what i'm saying it's yeah yeah it's hilarious yeah like ari and i were talking last night we went to canter's deli late after his uh thing we're we're driving home and he was talking about how he thinks it's good to interact with regular people because he goes i don't talk to anybody that's a comedian and i think i'm not getting a balanced perspective and he was like you know you do the sports commentary stuff where like you'll go a whole weekend where you don't do stand up and you talk to like athletes and you talk to like news people and stuff like that like that's probably good for you right and he goes because i'm all i'm talking to is psychos right who also you know they i could say something really fucked up and they're like yeah yeah yeah well yeah when we all right i feel like i'd learn this in therapy when somebody shares something with you you need to share back oh so you know that we're like on the level together so i'm going to tell you a fucked up thing i said but i was hanging out i don't even i feel bad bringing his name but but I was hanging out with Pete Holmes.

[694] Oh, you brought him in.

[695] And it was right after, it was right after Robin Williams.

[696] It was right after Robin Williams thing.

[697] Right after the Holocaust.

[698] And they were saying, they were saying it's an apparent suicide.

[699] They found him with the belt around his neck.

[700] And I was like, Pete, do you think he, you think it was a suicide?

[701] Do you think he was jacking it with the belt around his neck?

[702] And we just started laughing, going, apparent suicide always sounds way better in a newspaper, then definitely was jerking off with a belt around his neck.

[703] Yeah.

[704] In Robin's case, he cut his wrists too.

[705] Yeah, I know.

[706] That part hadn't come out yet.

[707] And, uh, yeah.

[708] You know, it was, I mean, there's a, there's a, I, there's a, I have a human side.

[709] I don't want to sound like a cunt.

[710] It's not a cunt.

[711] It's true.

[712] It's a human side.

[713] It's, it's, it's very sad to me that that happened.

[714] And I respect that that happened.

[715] And if I was related to him, I probably wouldn't want to hear a joke about it right now.

[716] But my point is, is like, you know, sometimes you're hanging out with comics and you can let those little thoughts out with them that I think a lot of people, a lot of other comics, if I was on nine out of ten other podcasts right now, I wouldn't have felt comfortable sharing that.

[717] But see, you shared the crazy Joan Rivers joke, right?

[718] And then I share that back.

[719] And it's like, here we are.

[720] We're in the fucking ninth ring together.

[721] And Joan Rivers or Robin Williams, I think, would understand why those jokes.

[722] were funny.

[723] I don't have the right to say this guy's name because I wasn't there when it happened, but a very famous comedian came over to a table of comics at the cellar.

[724] And right after Rob Williams died and went, he was a joke thief, right?

[725] Fuck him.

[726] Really?

[727] And walked away.

[728] And everybody was like, oh, shit.

[729] Jesus.

[730] Like, looked at everybody and went, he was a joke thief, right?

[731] Jesus.

[732] He was a joke thief, right?

[733] And everybody, like, nod their head.

[734] And he goes, fuck him.

[735] And walked away.

[736] Yeah, I don't, it wasn't there.

[737] So I don't know if it was funny.

[738] The guy's fucking hilarious, so I'm sure it was probably pretty funny when he said it.

[739] But that's a real thing, too, with people.

[740] That's a real thing where some guys never want to let that shit go.

[741] Yeah, no, that's a very real thing.

[742] Especially was your bit?

[743] Like, if you had a bit and all of a sudden it's on Letterman.

[744] Look, I'll tell you, you know, Mark's doing it.

[745] There's something to be said for that Don't Die with a Grudge thing.

[746] Yeah.

[747] But I also do think it's bullshit a lot of the time, you know?

[748] I mean, you watch that Ramon's documentary, end of the century.

[749] And they start talking to Johnny Ramon after Joey died.

[750] And they go, did you go visit him in the hospital?

[751] He goes, no. And they go, even when he was dying, you didn't go see him.

[752] You knew he was going to die.

[753] And he goes, no. If I was dying, I wouldn't want him to come see me. I don't like the guy.

[754] We don't like each other.

[755] And I was just like, you know what, man, in certain ways I tip my hat to that.

[756] It's like, yeah.

[757] Right.

[758] This is what it is, man. Like, let's not stroke ourselves here.

[759] There's levels.

[760] You know, there's levels.

[761] like there's some people that you have fallen out with where you could you could sort it out and there's some people you can't some people i don't want to be around because i just don't want to feel them i don't want to be in there i don't i think they're beyond my reach i agree on my hope their perception of reality is so different than mine that i you know i don't i don't want to hate anybody but i don't want to communicate with them either right well you know the like my mom taught me a great lesson about that sort of thing she said the opposite of hate isn't love the opposite of hate is indifference when you truly don't care about somebody that's that's how's love for me i'm sorry i'm sorry let me i phrased it wrong the opposite of love is in hate the opposite of love is indifference that's what it is excuse me so where's hate fit in there is it in the middle hate means you still care hate means you still love the person it's not the opposite because if you hate, if you hate, you're invested, you know, and I mean, I guess that investment doesn't necessitate love every time, but hate is investment.

[762] I'm spending my energy on you right now.

[763] I'm wasting my energy on you.

[764] You know, you're my ex -girlfriend.

[765] You did me wrong.

[766] It's two years later.

[767] I can't pick up a mop without yelling the word cunt at the ceiling because this is the fucking mop you bought when you lived here you know what i mean like that's that's not the opposite of love that's you're still invested there's part of you still in there somewhere that wishes everything was okay but indifference when you truly say i don't give a fuck if you live die breathe whatever like i'm i have no nothing in me for you you know to me that is that's why they say with these fucking twitter trolls you know i was arguing with people on twitter for the last two days and people are going, why are you going after them?

[768] Don't show them that you care.

[769] Don't show them.

[770] And that's what, that's, yeah, yeah.

[771] Why am I showing them that I care?

[772] You know what I mean?

[773] Like, indifference is what pisses off a Twitter troll.

[774] Well, sometimes it's fun.

[775] Well, it is.

[776] I do think there's a gray area.

[777] And that's the gray area was where I was trying to exist.

[778] Because I didn't like what people were saying about a friend of mine on there.

[779] So I was trying to defend him.

[780] Yeah, I know what you're saying.

[781] I mean, there's times where it's worth your effort to communicate, and there's times where it's not.

[782] It's a matter of how much emotionally you get invested in debating someone that you don't even know.

[783] I mean, you might meet them.

[784] They might be a fucking complete idiot.

[785] There's no reason whatsoever to even communicate with them.

[786] Like, what's the point in getting all riled up and upset?

[787] You're not even involved with that person.

[788] You don't know that.

[789] You choose to be involved with them because of 140 characters that are on a page.

[790] You don't have to.

[791] You don't have to, you know?

[792] Yeah, there was a guy today that I stopped following that really came after me pretty hard that I considered, I wouldn't say a friend.

[793] We didn't hang out, but we were friendly.

[794] We were friendly, excuse me. And, you know, our knowing of each other started in a weird way.

[795] He was kind of like being a bit of a troll one day to me, and I really went after him because I was in a really bad mood.

[796] And then I ended up meeting him at a party a year later, and he came up and introduced himself, and he was like, hey, man, I was just joking.

[797] I'm sorry that that got out of hand, whatever.

[798] He ended up giving me a bag of weed.

[799] You know, he was really, really cool.

[800] and then we were cool and then like over these last two days he started tweeting me all this really fucking vicious shit about Andy Kindler and Andy's my friend and I was like dude I don't agree with you stop saying this shit to me and stop putting my name in the fucking tweets like like you and me ride together and like and now my my friend is going to see his name getting smeared and my name's in the tweet too and I'm just like dude you don't know what the fuck you're talking about stop and I was writing that back to him with both his and Andy's handle in the tweets and he just kept doing it and I was just like you know what dude fuck it I'm not doing this and I wrote it and other people chimed in we're saying the same dumb shit I just wrote to everybody that I'm arguing with right now on Twitter please stop following me I can't stand any of the shit you're saying right now I'm serious stop following me and they didn't and I was just like you know what fuck it and I just unfollowed this dude I'm like what I'm supposed to keep following a guy that's like waving his dick in my face?

[801] You know what I mean?

[802] Depends.

[803] And then he, you know, I wake up today at 4 .30 in the morning with anxiety from having a bad set at a fucking charity gig last night.

[804] And I check my Twitter, and there's like five tweets at me from this guy.

[805] You were never funny, you're a piece of shit, you're this guy.

[806] Who is this guy?

[807] I'll say his name.

[808] I don't, it's Fred from Brooklyn is his Twitter handle.

[809] Fred from Brooklyn.

[810] Is he comic?

[811] I don't know what he does.

[812] I think he has a podcast.

[813] He's not like a guy anybody knows except like some he's part of that.

[814] Don't put him up on the screen.

[815] Yeah, he's part of that O and A crew.

[816] Um, but like.

[817] So he just was trying to hurt your feelings.

[818] Yeah, it was like it was, it kind of made me sad to be honest because like he was doing it the way like a scorned lover does it.

[819] Like it's like, dude, two days ago you were telling me you love me and now you're, you're telling me I'm not funny.

[820] It's like you're just, you're just hurt.

[821] Your feelings were hurt.

[822] So it didn't upset me in that sense.

[823] And by the way, Fred, if you're hearing this, I'm not giving you attention because this got to me. I'm just mature enough to talk about this.

[824] And I don't give a fuck.

[825] I don't give a fuck.

[826] I can't get into all the goddamn head games of, don't say his name.

[827] That dude's typing right now with sweaty fingers.

[828] You know, it's just like, and it's like, and if you are listening to this, it's like, dude, I'm not even mad at you.

[829] It's like, you were saying a bunch of shit I didn't agree with.

[830] And I was like, all right, dude, I can't fuck with you anymore, man. He's writing, if you don't play Twitter by DeRos's rules, he'll fucking, he'll kill, blah, unfollow you, he's a fucking cunt.

[831] It's like, dude, weren't you one of the same guys that stood up for Anthony and were pissed off that he came under fire for his words?

[832] So you can attack other people when their words come under fire, but I can't, but nobody can criticize your word, you know what I mean?

[833] Like, how the fuck does that coin?

[834] Yeah, that's a real convenient fucking coin you're flipping there.

[835] You know what I mean?

[836] Hmm.

[837] But why worry about what his fucking hang -up is?

[838] Why spend so much energy on it?

[839] That's the real issue.

[840] Well, now we're back to the thing about the indifference.

[841] Yeah.

[842] I don't, it's not a lot of energy that I'm spending on it.

[843] It's just, I guess I'm just, I don't remember why we got into Twitter, but, but, oh, you were saying that, you know these people from the 140.

[844] Yeah.

[845] That's your only relationship to them.

[846] Yeah.

[847] You don't, you don't have to.

[848] dude he was somebody that i actually genuinely liked like as a dude and troubled troubled people well that's why i say i wasn't mad it was more just like it was like i feel bad man like i just feel bad for you dude like you you're reacting the way like a dumped girl reacts right now you know what i mean you know when someone says something like that to you it alleviates any responsibility you have for continuing to communicate with them like oh you're being a baby okay yeah like some like some people will do that and they'll expect you to fire back at them and they'll do it wanting you to fire back on it they want you to engage and that's where indifference comes in like you but this isn't indifference necessarily because we're kind of discussing it but you know it's it's important to recognize what you want to invest your energy in yes i agree a amount of hours in a day i agree i agree i just don't like like part i will say this my only emotional investment in that back and forth and like sending out a tweet that says please stop following me to anybody that feels this way.

[849] I want people like that out of my life.

[850] I don't want them coming to my shows.

[851] I don't want them around.

[852] And it's not because they said mean things about Andy Kindler.

[853] I can deal with somebody saying mean things about Andy Kindler.

[854] It's the reasons they were saying the mean things about Andy Kindler.

[855] They're pissed off because Andy Kinler addressed the Anthony situation at Montreal, and now it's we see blood and we attack and kill and it's fucking stupid it's mob mentality I don't agree with it I don't want people like that behind me in any way in any fucking way well you know Andy Kenler is a very progressive guy very smart guy and uh he you know if he met Anthony and he had a conversation with him maybe they would have a difference of opinion maybe they would argue I don't know but I respect them both yeah it's a tricky tricky situation where Anthony Coombe is situation for folks who don't know Anthony from Opie and Anthony was fired because he was in a situation another situation line situation I can't stop saying situation stuck in my head he was taking photographs late at night in Times Square some woman he took her photograph and she got mad at him she hit him yelling at him screaming at him and then he went on this rant about the African -American community about violence about all sorts of different things and he got fired for rant and uh you know if anybody pays any attention to him on the opian anthony show they know that he does that all the time that that style of communication is his thing but you can explain yourself way better on a radio show when you're going back and forth with people and you cite statistics and facts about the african -american community there's no doubt about it i mean there's no way to deny it there's a disparity in the amount of african -american people that are in prison there's disparity in the amount of African -American people that commit crime, but that could be attributed to a bunch of different things.

[856] Economic factors, the opportunities that they have as opposed to the opportunities of people that live in better neighborhoods have.

[857] There's a lot of shit going on there.

[858] It's a complex, nuanced discussion, and you're not going to have a complex nuanced discussion after you get punched in the face.

[859] You're just going to start screaming and yelling, and he should have just stayed off the air or stayed offline.

[860] What he should have done is talked about it on the radio show on Monday morning.

[861] expressed the whole story.

[862] So it's a sensitive issue.

[863] Very sensitive.

[864] And I think that you know, I'll be honest with you.

[865] This is the first time I've ever talked about this publicly to anybody.

[866] And when this all happened, I got a lot of shit online about not coming out and saying stand with aunt or defend aunt or whatever.

[867] Because I wanted to see the situation through before I said anything.

[868] And I don't, I didn't agree with the initial outburst on Twitter, but I thought to myself, okay, he was angry.

[869] It was fucked up.

[870] Let his blood fucking calm.

[871] Maybe he'll apologize or reword things or whatever.

[872] Also, too, I think if you're going to be somebody that complains about the problems in a community, you need to address those problems constructively and try to help offer solutions, not just yell from a hilltop about how fucked up it is and how you're pissed off about it.

[873] I don't think that helps anything.

[874] And that's, that kind of addressing of a problem is what makes people start saying, what's, what's going on with this guy?

[875] You know what I mean?

[876] It starts to sound like a very one -sided attack on something.

[877] Now, you can agree, or anybody could agree or disagree with that point, and we can even move beyond that point to this point, which is, after he went on that outper had that Twitter outburst so I was like okay that was unfortunate but let's see what he says now then he went on red eye and was like I'm not sorry I'm not sorry I'm not apologizing I am not sorry for what I did and I was like okay this is starting to get a little bit more complicated now and then after that I mean by the time he went on that like white nationalist radio show to like defend himself I was just like I don't know where this I didn't hear that well I saw online.

[878] Did you see a transcript or did you hear it?

[879] There was a part, there was part of a transcript of some stuff he said, but I found online because I was just kind of following the situation that he had gone on basically a white nationalist podcast or radio show or something.

[880] And it's like the guy, the host of the show is on Wikipedia.

[881] He's got a Wikipedia page and it was like, the Wikipedia page was like, this is a guy that has had like Holocaust deniers and shit on a show.

[882] Like your friend from Ireland?

[883] He wasn't my friend.

[884] He was my neighbor.

[885] And I didn't know he thought that until it came out that night.

[886] Oh, the Jews exonerated a bit, lad.

[887] Always after me a lucky charms.

[888] By the way, if that guy had a radio show, I wouldn't have gone on it.

[889] So, when I saw that, I mean, can you guys look it up?

[890] You know, I don't want to publicize any fucking white nationalists.

[891] Oh, okay, fair enough.

[892] So, anyway, so when I saw that, I was like, and saw some of Anthony's quotes from the show, I was like, this is getting fucked up.

[893] So do you think he just went off the deep end because he was angry and he was trying to publicize the whole situation, or do you think he's really racist?

[894] Like, what's your take on it?

[895] You know it probably as good as I know him.

[896] When it first happened, and I'm putting this disclaimer out before I say anything, I am fully aware of the, hellfire that I might face for not just saying I'm with the guy on this stuff.

[897] I'm fully aware of it.

[898] I've thought about this very long and very hard.

[899] I am aware of it.

[900] I'm not, you know, that, I'm just saying that.

[901] Anyway, the, when it first happened, I was like, this is really fucking unfortunate.

[902] And I want to believe that my friend fucked up.

[903] And I want to believe that my friend is, is going to redeem himself from this and the further it went down the road and finally for me the last final straw was the shit he was tweeting about the ferguson situation i was just like i can't unfollowed him on twitter i was like i can't do this man and that's not me saying fuck you kumia right that's me saying like dude you have the he has the absolute right to say whatever he wants to say i would never ever ever say somebody doesn't have the right to speak out loud about what they have to say but i also have the right to react to it and i also have the right to say if that's how you feel about this shit i disagree so strongly and this is such a this is such a to me an ethical and moral issue when it comes when you start dealing with race i don't know how we can pal around still you know what i mean because this is this is this is beyond like political differences to me you know it's like once it starts getting into racial stuff and i have to start thinking about what does it say to my black friends if i still hang out you know uh with a certain person i i you know it's it's a real fucking tight spot at that point and i also didn't agree with i also didn't agree with the whole thing where everybody was really on this like cancel your subscriptions thing and what and fuck opi and jim over fuck them out of a job let serious xm lose all this business?

[904] I mean, those guys were left in a really tough situation and they're making the best out of it.

[905] And for everybody that was behind Anthony to go, yeah, cancel your fucking subscription, well, now why are you fucking these people over?

[906] What did they do?

[907] They didn't do anything.

[908] And it just was such a messy thing.

[909] It was just such a messy thing.

[910] And everybody was saying this is a free speech issue.

[911] It's not a free speech issue.

[912] Speech is free.

[913] Freedom of speech is free.

[914] But it doesn't mean it comes without consequences.

[915] It works like a giant candy dish at your doctor's office.

[916] It's there for the taking.

[917] But if you don't handle it carefully or use with any responsibility, you're going to get sick and fuck yourself up a little bit.

[918] You've got to be careful.

[919] There are repercussions for free speech.

[920] Free speech just means you're allowed to say it.

[921] It doesn't mean nothing bad can happen afterwards.

[922] You know, and so when people, were talking about like i can't believe that they fired him it's like well whether you agree with him getting fired or not you can't believe that they fired him if you had a pizza shop and one of your top pizza makers was across the street saying that stuff and your customers could hear him you'd be like we get this fucking guy away from the pizza shop right now this is bad for pizza business so i don't see how serious xm's any different now again whether you agree with him getting fired or not is a different story, but to say we can't understand why he got fired, I just think it's such a close -minded one -sided way of looking at it.

[923] I think this, it was approached with zero gray area.

[924] Well, on one hand, I kind of appreciate their loyalty.

[925] Now that they want to stick up for Anthony and they want to do that, but there are real issues when you start discussing race that you have to take any consideration.

[926] And like, This Ferguson thing, you know, the Ferguson thing is a very unique situation because it's an incredibly impoverished community with a lot of fucking crime.

[927] A lot of crime and a lot of police brutality.

[928] Right.

[929] Like, it's just an awful place.

[930] It's awful.

[931] And it's not as simple as black people or white people.

[932] I, this is going to sound stupid.

[933] But I wish there was no race.

[934] I wish there was no color.

[935] I wish there was no differentiation other than your behavior.

[936] Because if that was the case, we would be able to look at behavior.

[937] Right.

[938] And we'd be able to look at all these people that are involved in tremendous amounts of crime.

[939] Okay, what are the variables there?

[940] What are the single parent households?

[941] What are the absentee parents?

[942] What are the kids that are growing up with drug addicts?

[943] What are the kids that are growing up with crime in their environment constantly?

[944] Right.

[945] You know, what a...

[946] Yeah.

[947] That's what's going on.

[948] It's not black people.

[949] I know fucking crazy white people.

[950] I grew up with a lot of poor white people.

[951] They were insane.

[952] They're just as goddamn dangerous as anybody.

[953] Well, there's nobody that's less dangerous when it comes to poverty and crime.

[954] You know, it's like you get poverty and crime and bad scenarios and then children potential that's growing up in this really distorted and fucked up way.

[955] You're going to get crazy people.

[956] Sure.

[957] People that grow up with crime, commit crime.

[958] People imitate their atmosphere.

[959] sure people who grow up in terrible environments it's very difficult to rise above and you can't just you can't just say it's a black thing or a white thing and just because it's in the black community more than it's in the white community look man you got to take into consideration that of hundred and fucking fifty years ago there was slavery okay and the great -grandchildren of those slaves are the what what you're dealing with today and that's that's a real and i'm not a fan of reparations or any of those ideas that a lot of of people banner back and forth, but I am a fan of what I would call social or civil engineering.

[960] Social engineering is probably not a bad idea to try to rejuvenate impoverished communities that are predominantly one race.

[961] I mean, it seems to me that those places are a trap.

[962] And if you're born in those places, whether it's poor white Irish people that are fucking criminals and meth heads, or whether it's black people that you grow up and your parents are in jail, you're being raised by your grandmother who sells crack, that's a terrible These are terrible environments that people are coming out of, and they're very commonplace.

[963] That's the real issue.

[964] The real issue is children that grow up in these environments and become really fucked up members of society.

[965] It has nothing to do with race.

[966] It just so happens that a lot of them are black.

[967] I agree.

[968] I agree.

[969] And that's why I think when statements start becoming things like that community is so quick to jump to violence and savages and statements like that, it's, it's, it's, it's, But on one hand, he's right.

[970] On one hand, he's right statistically.

[971] But the real question is, why are those communities more likely?

[972] And is it because they've been ignored?

[973] You know, as a society, we have a right, we have rather an obligation to take care of our community, right?

[974] But how far does our community extend?

[975] That's where it gets really problematic because our community, when we think about America as a community, it's 350 million people that stretches out thousands of miles.

[976] It's impossible to get everybody on board.

[977] Right.

[978] It's important.

[979] If we had a community and our community was 20 people and there was one guy who had no fucking money and who's doing a terrible job raising his kids and he was on drugs all the time and his kids were left alone.

[980] We would take that kid in.

[981] We would all take that kid in.

[982] Right.

[983] We all would.

[984] But we can't when there's a million kids like that.

[985] And then those kids grew up and they become adults and they were they were ignored and there's no love and there's just just disastrous circumstances that they're growing up.

[986] And that's what's wrong.

[987] I don't believe that it's a color issue.

[988] I believe it's an environmental issue.

[989] I think it's a genetic issue in that the genetics of the people that were in these fucked up environments.

[990] They're raising more people that are in these fucked up environments.

[991] It's epigenetics learning from your environment.

[992] That passes on to the next generation.

[993] But it's not a race thing.

[994] It's just an environmental thing.

[995] It could be white people that are in poor neighborhoods like those gypsies in England.

[996] Those people are goddamn savages.

[997] Those people that are driving around those caravans having bare -knuckle fights with each other, robbing everybody left and right.

[998] I have a friend.

[999] who they're good friends in England, they're from England, and they have good friends in England that had to abandon their home because gypsies moved into a park next to their house.

[1000] And when they have like these weird laws over there, when these gypsies show up, you know, they're not all bad, I'm sure, but these particular gypsies that moved next to them were bad.

[1001] They started robbing the neighborhood.

[1002] They started leaving their garbage everywhere.

[1003] They would dig holes and shit in them.

[1004] They would just chaos.

[1005] They would stay up late at night and drinking and screaming and fighting.

[1006] And it was just, and they couldn't get rid of them.

[1007] There's nothing they could do about them.

[1008] It had nothing to do with race.

[1009] Right.

[1010] It had everything to do with who are these fucking human beings.

[1011] There were white people.

[1012] And there were white people that were completely fucking out of control.

[1013] Right.

[1014] But if you took those same white people, raised them in a nice neighborhood, you raised them in Studio City, put them in a nice suit and have them walk into their BMW.

[1015] No one blink an eye, the same human being.

[1016] Right, right.

[1017] No, yeah.

[1018] I hear you.

[1019] I totally agree.

[1020] Can I go back to something you said earlier?

[1021] When you said, on the one hand, you admire their loyalty for going with him.

[1022] I think it's short -sighted, but I...

[1023] Here's my thing.

[1024] As far as I understood, it was about that show.

[1025] You know, I mean, the fan base, I mean, was about that show and about what that show stood for.

[1026] And to me, nothing about saying fuck you to two other guys and we're going to 100 % going to follow one guy was anything that that show stood for.

[1027] It showed zero unity to me. It just didn't.

[1028] It just didn't.

[1029] It's to throw two other dudes under a bus and go and have no consideration for the situation that they're left in.

[1030] You know?

[1031] I understand if you want to have consideration for the position Anthony's in.

[1032] Not saying they shouldn't have had consideration.

[1033] I'm saying, but to have zero consideration for the other two and go, fuck it, we're out of here.

[1034] Cancel subscription.

[1035] That's the thing I didn't agree with that.

[1036] It just felt like it felt like mob mentality to me. I see what you're saying, but in their defense, I think what they were trying to do was there was only one way to force their hand.

[1037] And the way wasn't to sit back.

[1038] The way was to cancel subscriptions until Sirius brought Anthony back as they wanted the show as a whole.

[1039] So their idea wasn't to fuck Jimmy and Opie.

[1040] Their idea was to cancel Sirius because it would force their hand and make them bring back Anthony.

[1041] Prove a point.

[1042] Yeah.

[1043] That was the only thing that they could do.

[1044] And if you wanted to bring back Anthony, way to act but i never felt now look i might be wrong how else could they have acted just hey guys this is this is fucking unfortunate and nobody listens to that and will to economics that will will listen to we'll also subscribe to this thing over here now do you know what i mean because look now i might be wrong about this but as far as i could see it was never painted in the light of of we're leaving and will be back if you rehire him it was fuck him we're done we're done that two days later Anthony was like I'm starting my own show it was and then and for a week two weeks those subscription cancellations were coming in so it never to me once came across as we're doing this now as a walkout as a strike and if you guys do the what we think is the right thing we'll bring him back it struck me very immediately as like he's out the door he's starting his own thing these people are continually jumping ship and I just think that kind of sucks for the other two guys and I'm I realize I'm not speaking for them right now I don't know how they feel about it and I don't mean to talk out of turn no I know I know what you're saying but I see what you're saying but I think for them I can totally understand why they wanted a boycott because I think for them that was the only way to voice their opinion in a way with a company be forced to listen if the company had 50 ,000 people can't say this subscriptions because anthony coomia got fired and then everybody said oh my shit we just lost X amount of revenue um can we get anthony to apologize and bring him back boom he's back on the show right and he wouldn't have apologized though well um no but i think there could have been a way to i don't think an apology was as necessary or as an explanation and a discussion you know i think if they had a discussion of the issue on monday he could have said the exact same things that he said in those tweets but said them and it's very different to hear someone say something talk about being punched by in the face by someone in the African -American community.

[1045] See, but look, I got to take another position, too, because I don't think you should have been taking a picture of that chick without her permission.

[1046] I don't think it's cool to be, if you're a woman, and this is going to, I'm not a white knight here, okay, but hear me out.

[1047] If you're a woman and some fucking dude on the street is pointing a camera at you and taking pictures, that shit's creepy.

[1048] And maybe dudes don't think that way because they think they're innocent, they're just capturing, they would prefer to be anonymous.

[1049] I'm just capturing the city.

[1050] I just love taking photographs.

[1051] I think it's a beautiful city.

[1052] It's interesting.

[1053] It's fascinating.

[1054] I like taking pictures of cabs.

[1055] I don't get their permission.

[1056] This is a person.

[1057] They're just happening walking down the street.

[1058] I'm going to take a picture of them.

[1059] I disagree with that.

[1060] I think, especially in the case of a man, taking a photograph of a woman, men are traditionally the pursuers.

[1061] I mean, we're liars if we pretend that there's anything other than that going on.

[1062] Yeah, women pursue sometimes.

[1063] But most creepers are dudes.

[1064] And when a dude is taking photographs, if I was a chick, I would immediately assume that he was a creeper.

[1065] So in my opinion, this woman was, it was probably, I don't know what the fuck was said.

[1066] See, so I mean, I'm even commenting out of school.

[1067] Well, that's the tough part is it becomes like the Watergate tapes.

[1068] There's like this missing 20 minutes sort of thing.

[1069] Well, this missing all minutes.

[1070] We don't have any time.

[1071] Right.

[1072] We have zero words.

[1073] Right, exactly.

[1074] So, I mean, it's, it literally goes from I was taking a picture to I got hit in the face and called white motherfucker.

[1075] This is how I, you know, I feel like this about the Zimmerman case too.

[1076] You know, everybody was like, oh, you know, this is a clear -cut case.

[1077] That guy was a piece of shit, and, you know, George Zimmerman's an awful person, and that kid, you know, he should have been, or then there's other people that said, that kid was a punk, he was beating him up, and he should have shot him.

[1078] Right.

[1079] My take was always like, what would have happened if someone who was cooler and they talked to that kid?

[1080] What would have happened with someone who understands people better?

[1081] What would, I mean, what if the whole scenario had played out where it was a dude who's really good at communicating with people and very respectful and said to the kid, how you doing today?

[1082] brother, everything good?

[1083] And the kids said everything's good, man. You know, what are you up to?

[1084] You know, I mean, who knows?

[1085] Maybe the kids say, just head back from the store, man. All right, keep pool, stay dry.

[1086] And who knows?

[1087] It's, it's, you know what I'm saying?

[1088] Exactly, exactly.

[1089] A fucking dork like George Zimmerman might have caused that altercation just by being a social fuckhead.

[1090] Well, I think if you, yeah, I mean, I thought, I certainly thought so.

[1091] I went, I went, I was open -minded to the point of going, I understand that the guy had his suspicions raised or whatever.

[1092] But then when you listen to those cell phone calls and he's like chasing the guy around the neighbor, it was so painfully obvious to me that here's a guy that just wants to be a hero.

[1093] Here's a wannabe cop that wants to be a hero and shit got out of hand.

[1094] He bit off more than he could chew.

[1095] He got his fucking ass kicked by a kid and he ended up killing somebody over it.

[1096] You know, and like somehow slid through that self -defense loophole because, you know, how old was Trayvon?

[1097] 16, got on top of him and...

[1098] Was beating his ass.

[1099] Yeah, it was beaten his ass.

[1100] But, you know, look, it's like the Ferguson thing.

[1101] Those two, all anybody was talking about was the video of the guy, the defenders of the cop, all they were talking about was the guy, you know, shoving the guy in the convenience store and stealing the cigar or whatever it was.

[1102] Right.

[1103] hands were up when he was shot you know so now regardless of this weird phantom gunfire shot that happened when the cop was in the car whatever weird fucking altercation thing happened there whether it was that dude's fault or the cop whatever regardless of any of that the guy is getting chased the cop is chasing him if he's got his fucking hands up you're a cop dude at that point that's it you don't shoot a you don't shoot a dude to death you just don't well the guy who was the cop that shot him was also a guy that was a part of another band of cops that was so fucked up.

[1104] They had so many complaints about them that they disbanded the whole department.

[1105] And then he got hired by Ferguson.

[1106] Yeah, it's, he had a history of that kind of abuse.

[1107] Yeah, yeah.

[1108] And, you know, it's so, you know, to, unless you don't want to talk about this anymore, but like, you know, to, again, with the Coomia thing, you know, look, at the end of the day with Anthony, And this is why when I saw the Ferguson tweets, I was like, oh, that's it.

[1109] I can't, you know, because when you see him, I don't want to get into what he was tweeting.

[1110] But, like, the point is, is that I didn't, I harshly didn't agree with it.

[1111] Well, I think he's a bit like, you know, I mean, I don't want to cast him in a bad like because he's my friend, but I think he's a bit like your friend that's a spurned lover.

[1112] I mean, I think there's a little bit of that, of that he's fired by this company.

[1113] He's like, yeah, fuck you, I'm going to go even deeper with it now.

[1114] I'm getting even more crazy with it now.

[1115] I don't give a fuck.

[1116] No, yeah.

[1117] You know what I'm saying?

[1118] No, he is.

[1119] And it's, it's, I got to say, man, like, at the end of the day, the whole thing just makes me sad.

[1120] And I know at probably deep in his core, Anthony doesn't really give a fuck about what I think.

[1121] We were friends.

[1122] And, you know, like, we used to hang out.

[1123] I was bummed out, man. I was bummed out that I felt like I got to a point with a friend where I was like, I don't think I can hang out with this guy anymore.

[1124] And it really bummed me out.

[1125] But did you talk to him in person?

[1126] I texted him twice.

[1127] What did he say?

[1128] He didn't respond to the first one.

[1129] The second one he responded to me. The second text I sent, I was a little pissed, honestly, that I didn't get a response from the first one.

[1130] And I texted him a second time, like two weeks later.

[1131] And I said, hey, man, I don't know if you got my other text.

[1132] But the first text was just like, hey, man, you know, I know you're going through some shit right now.

[1133] I'm sorry that you're in a tough position.

[1134] and I just want you to know I had great times in the studio with you, and I wish you well, man. Like, I felt like I could say that much to a guy, even though I didn't agree with the shit that came out of his mouth.

[1135] I could say that much to him.

[1136] I owe a lot of my career to Opie and Anthony and Jimmy.

[1137] So that was the first text.

[1138] I didn't hear back from him.

[1139] And I was like, okay, fine.

[1140] And then two weeks later, I texted him again.

[1141] I said, hey, man, I don't know if you got my other text, but there's some guy online writing fake retweets of me saying, saying really nasty shit about you i go i'm not that those aren't my tweets that's not me and then he responded to that one he was like hey man i always knew we were cool don't worry about it da da da da and i was like oh cool man like you know let's have a beer at some point because in my head i was like this was still before the red eye clip or at least i saw the red eye clip and and i was still thinking like this will turn around this will turn around that's what i just kept thinking.

[1142] And after that, I started seeing all the other stuff.

[1143] And that's when I started to be like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[1144] And I'll be honest, man, like what really bummed me out one day was was he like kind of, he knew I was getting a lot of shit online because his name was in the tweets and he never once told these people to leave me the fuck alone.

[1145] But don't you think that he was, first of all, this was a national story.

[1146] Okay, this is a huge story.

[1147] Don't you think that he was probably completely overwhelmed and may very well have been ignoring his at replies because they were overwhelming he said nice things about burr he said nice things about bobby kelly he said nice there's other comics i don't remember he said nice things about me said nice things about you ignored you uh well he doesn't yeah i'm not important enough i'm not important enough seriously that's you think that's it or is it just like here's why i think that's what it is here's why i think that's what it is.

[1148] Because not only did he not help get some of the fucking heat off of me, and there was a lot of it, when he finally did address me on Twitter, as people like Colin Quinn, and who's the guy from the vice guy?

[1149] What's his name?

[1150] Which vice guy?

[1151] God damn.

[1152] Shane?

[1153] Shane Smith?

[1154] Not Shane.

[1155] The guy that left Vice, with the beard.

[1156] Oh, the guy who got in trouble recently for uh talking about transsexuals probably Gavin's Gavin yeah Gavin and Colin Quinn were getting tweets like hey would you please come do my new show I'll send a car for you ha ha ha DM me come do my show please my tweet in the midst by the way by the way Anthony tweeting them you sound like a spurn lover now do you feel that no I'm just I'm just A lot of spurn lover talk today.

[1157] By the way, by the way, some of my I guess anger about the situation is when you're sitting at your aunt's funeral who was like a second mother to you and your phone keeps buzzing because you're getting tweets like you're a talentless selfish shitbag cunt stick up for Coomia.

[1158] Okay, well you need to take those fucking at replies off your fucking notifications.

[1159] You don't have your phone buzz when people tweet you.

[1160] What are you an amateur?

[1161] Right, but maybe.

[1162] Doug Benson.

[1163] But my point is, is like there was some there was some personal stuff in there because I was like, I was like, I'm getting shit for not This guy's gonna give a fuck about me Obviously, like he's doing whatever he wants Why am I being held?

[1164] Maybe he's just overwhelmed man So, I mean, you gotta talk to a guy Before you form an opinion, in my opinion Well, this was the tweet I got This was the tweet I got Okay Hey, fuckhead From you?

[1165] From Anthony Hey fuckhead Are you gonna do my show when you're in New York That's the tweet I got When he knew there was bullshit going on online Then he calls me out in front of everybody like you're on the spot douche let's go dance are you coming on or not and i responded you know i'm 10 % black right because i thought that was fucking funny right and nothing nothing okay not a favorite not a reply nothing very personal she shouldn't have aired it out in this matter why you got all worked up i'm not worked up but this is all just an interpersonal situation we were talking about like a more complex issue of racism and you know the what he said now and then it became all about him not being nice to you no no no i don't did kind of no no no little it seems like you're taking twitter a way too seriously awesome i mean whenever i have a problem with twitter i either ban user doesn't ignore it or anything like that but it seems like you take your very uh or do you do you in your personal life before twitter and everything do you do getting a lot of confrontations with people no no i don't i don't I used to.

[1166] I don't a lot in my personal life.

[1167] I used to.

[1168] I used to be bad about confrontation.

[1169] I used to.

[1170] But the only reason I'm bringing in any personal stuff is because you were asking me when I said he doesn't give a fuck about me. You know, like...

[1171] You got to talk to the guy, man. You got to talk to him.

[1172] Sometimes, you know, sometimes people are busy, man. And when he said, fuck face or whatever he says, like, hey, fuck face, are you going to do my show or whatever he said?

[1173] Do you think maybe he was just like, hey, fuckface?

[1174] What are you going to do my show?

[1175] Yeah, that sounds like a text I might get from Bruce.

[1176] Ryan.

[1177] Yeah, because it seems like you in your head were reading it like, hey, fuck face.

[1178] Yeah, I don't under, you were all worked up.

[1179] I mean, let's build it up.

[1180] You were all worked up.

[1181] Your aunt died.

[1182] You're at the funeral.

[1183] Your phone's busy.

[1184] Busing.

[1185] People are calling you a con. It's possible.

[1186] It still doesn't change the fact that I wouldn't do the show.

[1187] I mean, because...

[1188] You wouldn't do it because of that?

[1189] No, because of the stuff he's said.

[1190] Yeah, but didn't you...

[1191] I would do it, even though I don't agree with what he said because he's my friend.

[1192] And if we disagreed, I'd like to disagree with them on air.

[1193] Like, you know, people that I'm friends with have a...

[1194] opinions i don't agree with and sometimes i've had opinions that are off base and someone has sort of explained things to me in a way that's made me think about things in a different way i don't i don't know if anthony's capable of being reached like that but you know sometimes you can i always communicate with someone and say something that opens their eyes i always in the beginning of this whole situation i absolutely thought that he was and i have lost the hope of that and i feel like at this point for me to act like it, it's like I'm like, see, I feel like if I say this, it sounds like I'm judging you and I don't mean to be judging you right now.

[1195] Like, but I feel like if I were to go on his show, it would make it, it would, unless it was under the guise of, Joe, come on and we'll debate race.

[1196] And it's like, okay, then I could go on and hey, doesn't matter what this guy thinks, I'm allowed to do this.

[1197] But if I went on the show and let's say we didn't get around to debating race, now I'm sitting and we're just laughing and yuck it to me that looks like i'm giving a stamp of approval you know and i i can't it's like you know it's okay i could i could understand your opinion i mean um my uh friendship with him is uh it's pretty deep i i've really enjoyed doing that show and i have a lot of respect for him and i probably don't agree with them on a lot of issues when it comes to race especially because because i have i have these opinions about things being much much more complicated than simply black people do this white people do that i don't think it's that i think it's a poverty it's an economic it's a cultural issue it's an issue with people get stuck they're stuck in bad neighborhoods they're stuck in economic situations and i think we probably both agree with that yeah and anthony um has some very good points about the reality of statistics in these communities i think it's a much more complex issue but sure his his um issue is that people want to deny those realistic statistics.

[1198] The reality of those statistics is undeniable, in my opinion.

[1199] I just think that there's more to it than simply the statistics.

[1200] Sure.

[1201] And I think that society as a whole has done a really shitty job at taking care of the lowest social and economic rung of the latter.

[1202] I think people have ignored it because it's convenient because they don't have to do anything about it.

[1203] Yeah.

[1204] Yeah.

[1205] But, you know, a lot of people accuse you of socialism if you say things like that.

[1206] I've, you know, someone call me a socialist today because of that.

[1207] I'm like, you know, Look, if you think taking care of poor babies is socialism, yeah, I'm a socialist.

[1208] But, yeah.

[1209] Well, you know what I mean?

[1210] I mean, it's just like, they didn't fucking ask to be born a ghetto, man. And if you can't feel that, you know, you don't have any remorse or, you know, any compassion for people that are born in terrible situations.

[1211] To me, that's a mark against you as a human being.

[1212] I agree with that.

[1213] I totally agree with that, which is why.

[1214] so why wouldn't you just have a discussion with him about it like to try to figure out how do you have a discussion with a guy that doesn't return your text oh okay more it doesn't get back to you okay but if he did but if he did would you still you know what I'm saying like if he did would you have that conversation because you just said that you thought it would give like him a stamp of approval no no no no no that's not that's what I said was I said I would go on I would absolutely go on his show if the purpose was to discuss race I wouldn't go on the show If that wasn't preset that we were going to do that, because if we didn't get around to discussing race, then we're just having a good time to get.

[1215] You know what I mean?

[1216] And it's just not cool to me. But, you know, I just, look, now here's the thing.

[1217] Here's the thing.

[1218] And again, I want to, well, let me just say this to defend myself a little bit.

[1219] I am not sore about the way he treated me. I'm not upset.

[1220] Say butt hurt.

[1221] Yeah, I'm not butt hurt.

[1222] Thank you.

[1223] I'm not my my ass my little assy poo doesn't hurt um I like like and I'm not trying to and I'm in no way trying to air a grievance a personal grievance right now on your show about this in any fucking way okay I only went into that stuff because you were when I started talking about I don't think he really cares what I think um I had a I had a friendship with the guy um you know when I reached out and tried to get to a deeper place with him about this and discuss maybe have a discussion or whatever about this let's grab a beer by let's grab a beer never received a response you know I didn't get the okay let's stop right here because this really is very personal this is you know this is not about the issue itself it's between you and him and your relationship and I don't know what the fuck it is but I think what they should have done from the beginning is say we're going to ride our contract out when that bitch is over going to go on the internet.

[1224] Do the Opian Anthony show when our contract is out.

[1225] I mean, I don't even know if they can say that, but their contract is out in like October.

[1226] They might already be planning that.

[1227] I hope they are.

[1228] Because I think that the reality of satellite radio is, it's awesome because it's in your car.

[1229] It's way better than terrestrial radio.

[1230] You got Howard Stern.

[1231] You got Opie and Anthony.

[1232] You got all these radio stations that have, you know, have great music on them.

[1233] You can find channels.

[1234] You can find, you know, I love classic vinyl.

[1235] It's great.

[1236] I love listening to satellite radio but you have to listen to what they want you to listen to it i don't listen to it i have it in my car most of the time i listen to podcasts right most of the time i'm listening to hardcore history or radio lab or you know any of our friends podcast that's what i do most of the time i don't i don't i just think it's an archaic way to get programming it's this idea that you have to listen to what's on when it's on that's great if you happen to be flipping through the channels or you turn on your car and Opie and Anthony comes on or the Anthony and Jimmy show, whatever they call it now, or Opie and Jimmy, when it comes on and it's an interesting interview, it's great.

[1237] Right.

[1238] But sometimes you just want to listen to what you want to listen to.

[1239] Sure.

[1240] And it would be great if I could say, oh, look, Joe DeRose is on Joey Diaz's podcast.

[1241] Let me just press play on that.

[1242] Sure.

[1243] And I have like a whole, or I could go listen to Arnold Schwarzenegger on the nerdist or this and that or, you know, whatever.

[1244] Sure.

[1245] That I think is the future.

[1246] And I think that's the present also.

[1247] And I think that once that's readily available in all cars at all times, the idea of them working for satellite radio will be kind of silly.

[1248] Like, why would you choose to have a boss?

[1249] What is the difference between the distribution method of satellite radio and the internet?

[1250] I'll tell you what the difference is.

[1251] There is a difference.

[1252] Satellite radio is more restrictive.

[1253] Well, yeah.

[1254] More restrictive.

[1255] It's more advertising.

[1256] You don't get as much of a piece of it.

[1257] And you've got this massive overhead because you're attached to this gigantic company that's totally unnecessary.

[1258] And you can get fired apparently.

[1259] You can get fired for talking.

[1260] And you have to rent this giant fucking building.

[1261] You mean, there's a fucking floor.

[1262] You have to show ID, go up to the, whatever floor it is.

[1263] It's way the fuck up there.

[1264] There's all this money that's being spent where, look at this fucking place.

[1265] This reaches the same amount of people, or more, really.

[1266] This show reaches more than most satellite radio shows.

[1267] And we do it from a fucking office park.

[1268] It's a joke.

[1269] I know.

[1270] The future is the distribution method is changing.

[1271] And the distribution method, I think it's being tested by these sort of situations where you find that he could be fired for something totally unrelated to the show.

[1272] It's not like they went on the show, and he said something that the company can't, like, he went on the show and said something totally racist, and the company's like, you can't say that on our show, you're fired.

[1273] No, he said it on his own Twitter.

[1274] You know, the very least, they should have had some form of a debate with the guy.

[1275] But I think there's more to it than that, and I think when you talk about this white nationalist radio station that he went on, I think there's a little bit of that there, too.

[1276] There might have been more too behind the scenes.

[1277] Well, but, and this is, and I'm no way retreading or trying to beat a dead horse here.

[1278] But this is why I'm saying, I'm not trying to be personal.

[1279] I agree with everything you're saying, but I'm saying how, I feel like, I almost felt like he wasn't that open to having the discussion.

[1280] Maybe it wasn't.

[1281] So it's like, how can you, on the one hand, everybody, and this is what's drive me nuts about like this sort of blind, like, like, I know what's going to happen.

[1282] I'm going to leave here.

[1283] I'm going to get a flood of tweets tonight.

[1284] You know why?

[1285] You know why you're going to?

[1286] Because I'm saying this.

[1287] Because you're freaking out.

[1288] And because they know they can make your phone buzz.

[1289] I don't.

[1290] I'm going to shut that part off.

[1291] You should have shut off already.

[1292] How much has it gone off while the show's on?

[1293] A lot crazy.

[1294] I got a confession to make.

[1295] I lied.

[1296] I don't have my Twitter alerts on my phone.

[1297] I went outside during the funeral to get some air and I checked my Twitter and then I saw all the stuff.

[1298] Oh, dare you.

[1299] But I was trying to just get through the goddamn.

[1300] What was the last story?

[1301] It used to be on your phone.

[1302] Oh, it was just, I used.

[1303] years.

[1304] That's a big lie.

[1305] Yeah, it was a big lie.

[1306] I glad you owned up to that.

[1307] Good for you.

[1308] But that's, and it doesn't, I mean, I guess, yeah, to a certain extent, it does bother me that I'll get some of these tweets and whatever.

[1309] But that to me is what bothers me about the whole discussion is because I feel like everybody's going, it should have been more open -minded.

[1310] It should have been more open -minded.

[1311] It's like, okay, well, I can speak from the place of somebody that was trying to approach it more open -minded.

[1312] And I felt like I didn't, there wasn't an option to do that.

[1313] I felt like that wasn't there.

[1314] Well, it's just because of your relationship with Anthony.

[1315] Well, I mean, well, no, I also mean like just in the public discussion forums, like, the second you don't, you didn't, not you, but anybody, generally.

[1316] The second you didn't hashtag stand with aunt or come out and say something, you were a traitor and a piece of shit.

[1317] And it's like, well, that's not open -minded discussion either.

[1318] But you're talking about the pests?

[1319] Why are you looking for open -mind discussion?

[1320] The people are savages.

[1321] Yeah, they are.

[1322] They are.

[1323] I don't know.

[1324] I guess I always think that because the shit heels are more prone to write stuff or voice the negative opinion than the positive people are to voice the positive, it seems like the majority voice is that sort of negative voice sometimes.

[1325] Well, they're more likely to fester and they're more likely to get crazy about it.

[1326] and obsess about it.

[1327] Like, I retweeted this one dude the other day about something, and I saw him going back and forth with people for 13 hours.

[1328] Yeah, that's nuts.

[1329] I retweeted him, and he just was battling people all day.

[1330] It became his life.

[1331] I mean, it was every minute for 13 hours, this guy was going back with people.

[1332] There's folks like that out there, and you have to realize you can get caught into their web of psychosis.

[1333] I was going to, sorry, I was going to say something off topic.

[1334] No, go ahead.

[1335] you want to talk about anxiety sure do you do you know this is we're getting into this this is beautiful man i mean i think it is i like how raw this discussion is do you know the surge the full body surge of anxiety i felt when you were like let's stop there this is getting way too personal this is really dude oh my god it felt like i stuck my finger in a light socket oh i'm sorry no no no don't be sorry i just felt like we were beating on the same path over and over again it was getting to be like you know he fucking didn't call me you know no i didn't mean it like that i was i was saying when you were saying why didn't you have a discussion i was saying i tried to and that was my attempt to and i didn't get a response so i don't know what else to do right um but then i knew you took it the other way because what you said and then i went right back to the beginning don't fuck this up first time on rogan's podcast rogan doesn't like you you went down this room dude i like you felt like i put my finger in an electric socket no well get it out of there go get a bandaid the uh i just i'm just being a hundred percent honest no i know what you're saying but it's you know it's a complex subject it's tricky also too i want to you know i'm not i'll talk about myself as openly as i'll talk about anybody else like you know i'll beat my i'll beat on myself as much as i never go after you well yeah it's uh look man people fuck up and they say things that are wrong they say things they don't mean the real question is did he say things that he doesn't mean, did he say, was he upset, or is that what he really feels?

[1336] And if that's the case, then it becomes a real issue.

[1337] Because if that's the case, if he denies that there's some complexities to it, but I don't, my interactions with him, my communication with him has not been that.

[1338] My community complications with him has been there is a real problem in those communities, but it's not his fault.

[1339] And he's what he deals with is the PC denial of these real problems in that community.

[1340] I agree with that.

[1341] I agree with that.

[1342] And that was always how it seemed to be, at least at the times when I was in the studio and stuff and would hear it.

[1343] And when we hung out, I mean, dude, this is a dude.

[1344] I can't stress this enough.

[1345] I'm bummed about the whole thing, first and foremost, because this is a dude I used to have a great fucking time with.

[1346] We would drink.

[1347] Dude, I had so much fun with him.

[1348] And it never got heavy, ever, ever, ever, ever.

[1349] So like, the, uh, when I, when the discussions of this stuff would come up on the show, when it, when you're, when you're, you're, in the room, it sounded a little more to me like what you're saying, like he's addressing that there was this problem.

[1350] But then there was also the times where he would get real mad on the air.

[1351] And even in those times, you're like, okay, he just got a little hot today and that's not that big of a deal.

[1352] But then when all these things happened after the show, or after he was fired from the show, that's when it started to feel kind of like weird to me, where I was like, okay, well, was all that anger coming from a different place, you know, or Or, I don't know, man. The radio show thing fucked me up.

[1353] The white nationalist thing fucked me up.

[1354] Yeah, well, that'll do it.

[1355] I mean, I don't know what, you know, I don't know how to take that.

[1356] Yeah, I know how to take it.

[1357] Yeah, that's lighting someone's house on fire.

[1358] I mean, that's like, you break up with someone, you fucking burn all the records.

[1359] It's so crazy to me that I almost feel like it, I'm like, maybe somebody's going to write later tonight and be like, that's not true.

[1360] That was a made up thing.

[1361] I don't fucking know.

[1362] Maybe he was drinking.

[1363] Maybe he was, who knows?

[1364] Who knows?

[1365] I don't know.

[1366] I would have to communicate with him.

[1367] I would have to pay attention to what he actually said on that show.

[1368] I didn't see it.

[1369] I didn't listen to it.

[1370] But the fact that he went on a white national show is not good.

[1371] You know, like, isn't it funny?

[1372] You know, this is a funny thing, man, because, you know, I've been going back and forth with people because of something I said the other day on a podcast about John Jones, where I said that I think that a lot of the hate that John Jones gets, it's possible that some of it.

[1373] might be because of racism i said i wonder if some of it might be because of racism those are my exact words and people were you know said like there's headlines of things said white guilt you know rogan thinks that you know this is it's all because of racism and it's such as a hot button topic right you know if you bring it up in any form at all you bring up racism in any form at all right people just immediately it's just a it's a weird topic it's a tough subject which is why I think if you're going to address problems in a community, you have to also address potential solutions.

[1374] I don't, and I don't think that happens often in the race discussion.

[1375] I think the race discussion is almost always two sides attacking one, one side on a hard, blind attack and another side on a hard blind defense.

[1376] But there's like double standards, and here's one of them.

[1377] The heavyweight champion of the world is a dude named Kane Velasquez, awesome fire, great guy.

[1378] Boxing?

[1379] Heavyweight?

[1380] UFC.

[1381] UFC heavyweight champion.

[1382] And he has brown pride tattooed across his chest because he's Mexican.

[1383] Brown pride.

[1384] Could you imagine if there was a white guy who was the heavy if Brock Lesnar won the heavyweight title and then got white pride tattooed across his chest?

[1385] Yeah, but here's the difference.

[1386] To me, here's the difference for that argument.

[1387] Brown pride never meant the same thing as white pride.

[1388] White pride has always been synonymous with white power.

[1389] Always.

[1390] Those two terms have never not been linked to one another.

[1391] So you put white pride out there.

[1392] It sounds like white power.

[1393] People start going down that road and they're like, what the fuck is this guy all about?

[1394] Brown pride?

[1395] When it's like, hey, man, I'm from a suppressed people, or oppressed people, excuse me. And hey, man, I'm proud of who I am.

[1396] Nobody would have a problem with a white guy where it said Italian pride or Irish pride.

[1397] That's true.

[1398] Nobody would have a problem with that.

[1399] That's very true.

[1400] That's very true.

[1401] It's overall white would be an issue.

[1402] But that's true.

[1403] If someone had Irish pride written on their chest, like of Colin McGregor, Connor McGregor, rather, had Irish pride on his back.

[1404] He's a famous Irish fighter.

[1405] Nobody would give a fuck.

[1406] No. That's true.

[1407] Nobody would care at all.

[1408] He's a proud Irishman.

[1409] There's nothing wrong with that.

[1410] He says he's a proud Irishman.

[1411] Yeah, I mean it's...

[1412] English pride would be fine.

[1413] Fine.

[1414] Anyone?

[1415] Polish?

[1416] German.

[1417] Maybe not German.

[1418] German would be a real issue.

[1419] I'd be like, what are you proud about?

[1420] Exactly.

[1421] Our engineering, our cars.

[1422] Okay, okay.

[1423] Okay, cool.

[1424] Military accomplishments aside.

[1425] Yeah, no, it's, it's, I mean, this whole, dude, it goes back to the thing you said about certain communities having to deal with certain setbacks, right?

[1426] I'm not putting words in your mouth here.

[1427] That's essentially what you said.

[1428] Certain communities have had certain setbacks.

[1429] The white community as a whole has not faced too many setbacks.

[1430] It's just a fact.

[1431] Most of global tyranny, violence, genocide, whatever, has a big chunk of it has been perpetuated by white people.

[1432] And white people have pretty much prevailed in the majority in most of the societies that they have ever existed in.

[1433] Not saying there aren't poor white people.

[1434] I don't agree with that whole white people problems, bullshit.

[1435] You know, I'm not saying that white people can't have a hard time.

[1436] And I'm not saying that there aren't people that aren't white that are as well off or way better off than a lot of white people.

[1437] Right.

[1438] But if you want to speak in generalities of race, white has had the least amount of headaches.

[1439] So it's tough when the people that have had the least amount of setbacks and the least amount of headaches stand to the side and go stop your complaining stop your complaining because then it starts to be like well fuck you man fuck you that's like somebody going you know joe you know man you oh did you take jiu jitsu when you were a kid because your upbringing was so bad oh stop fucking what i mean then you want to be like hey fuck you you don't know anything about my fucking upbringing i probably wouldn't handle it that way but go ahead But I'm saying it would feel disrespectful if I spoke to you that way.

[1440] I don't think the comparison is like a martial arts comparison because, yeah, I think the race issue is a bigger issue.

[1441] Of course it's bigger.

[1442] It's darker, it's more fucked up.

[1443] And racism to me is one of the, it's one of the most unfortunate aspects of humanity.

[1444] This idea of just seeing someone basing it on all the data that you've accumulated in the amount of years you've been alive, all the bad experiences you've had with white people or black people, whatever it is that you have a racism towards, and then automatically assuming that this person who you have no interaction with whatsoever is negative based on that.

[1445] It's just so limiting and it's so unfortunate.

[1446] It's one of the most unfortunate aspects of being a person, so I can never support it.

[1447] But I think it's a complex subject for debate.

[1448] It's a very complex subject.

[1449] There's a lot going on there.

[1450] And anybody that pretends it isn't, whether it's Anthony or whether it's on the progressive side, you know who whichever side has a non nuanced opinion on and i think it's yeah i service to a complex topic i have a i have a real problem when the topic is addressed uh with with the with the um the approach of stop your belly achin yeah that's just people fucking with you know it's this simple do you know what i mean it's this simple guys slavery get over it i mean i've heard people say that i've heard people say slavery get over it i've heard jewish people say oh i'm sick of hearing this we were in the holocaust and it's like you guys were and that's fucking terrible but at the same time guys jesus i'm not saying all jewish people say that but like i've heard jewish people say that about black people i've heard black people say we don't give a fuck about the holocaust it's not just white people is my point or you know or the classic stereotypical white people doing this it comes from all sides You know, Italian people and Irish people will say it, oh, big deal, we were in the ghettos when we first came here.

[1451] It's like, yeah, but it's just, everybody's got their different run through this, and there's a snowball effect that happens, and it's, it's complicated.

[1452] Yeah, no, it's definitely complicated, you know?

[1453] Yeah.

[1454] So, I mean, it would be nice if we could just judge people on who sucks and then figure out why they suck.

[1455] But you know what, man?

[1456] I wonder if it's even fucking possible to ever work it out.

[1457] I kind of feel like to the day humans stop until the day we become something else.

[1458] I just don't see how there's ever going to be a universal group of people that gets it right.

[1459] Like where any culture ever completely gets it right where there's no fuckheads, there's no jealousy, there's no bullshit, there's no insecurity or nonsense or.

[1460] think other countries on the planet have a shot at it really i don't think this one has who's got a shot at iceland or something like that yeah yeah like somewhere there's only a hundred people yeah yeah i think canada might have a shot you know like they do better than us i'll tell you that yeah i think other countries might have a shot at complete harmony amongst people of any color whatever it will never happen here it will never happen here this country is built on a disgusting foundation.

[1461] There are too many skeletons in the closet.

[1462] There's too much dirt, too much pain.

[1463] It's built on, it's just built on too much pain and turmoil and deceit and whatever.

[1464] And it's like when you start something like that, when you start the practice like that, steal the land, steal the people so we can prosper.

[1465] How could it ever bounce back?

[1466] Because that just will continue and continue and continue and snowball and snowball and snowball until you have these seemingly unfixable problems, seemingly unfixable.

[1467] And I don't say that to take hope away from anybody that's in a dire situation.

[1468] I think all these things are able to be risen above on an individual level.

[1469] On an individual level.

[1470] On individual levels.

[1471] But I mean, for God's sakes, it's like we have, you look at the situations in the inner cities because of all these different factors that we're talking about and how it began and how it got to where it is now and everything.

[1472] It's like, how could you ever, in a million years, rectify that?

[1473] All right, let me tell you this.

[1474] What if you're the president?

[1475] Yep.

[1476] President DeRosa.

[1477] All of a sudden they say, we've decided to, you know, start electing stand -up comedians.

[1478] They have good philosophical points.

[1479] Like, what would you do?

[1480] What would you do to try to fix shit?

[1481] Do you have any answers?

[1482] or you just look at it and go, it's all fucked up?

[1483] Do you ever, like, go past, it's all fucked up?

[1484] Do you ever, like, see if I was going to do something about it, what would I do?

[1485] I have a very hard time seeing past.

[1486] Yeah, this would be my one suggestion.

[1487] It would be strive for individual success.

[1488] Strive for individual success.

[1489] Because when you try, everybody, everybody.

[1490] I think, just by default.

[1491] I don't know what it is.

[1492] I guess it's just survival tactics or whatever.

[1493] We all sort of have that run with the pack mentality.

[1494] You know, it's like when you're growing up, no matter what kind of neighbor do you live in, whether it's a suburb or the projects or in a fucking country dirt road, on a country dirt road.

[1495] Excuse me. There's always the one kid that's maybe going places, and that one kid always gets the same advice.

[1496] You want to go anywhere?

[1497] Better stop hanging around with these fucking knuckleheads that you're running around with, because these guys are going to hold you back.

[1498] Why?

[1499] Because for some reason, in anybody's community, the mentality, the notion is to stick together.

[1500] If you leave, that means you think you're better.

[1501] That means you think you're different.

[1502] Dude, it happened to me, and I'm from the fucking suburbs.

[1503] So it's not just a, it's not just the thing you hear about in rap songs when guys are talking about people in the projects trying to hold them back.

[1504] It's a thing that happens all over.

[1505] So if I was the president, I were the president, I would say to people, strive for independent success, stop worrying about what's happening to the people.

[1506] I'm not saying like in a callous way to fuck the people around you.

[1507] Be concerned about your community, but strive for independent success because you're not going to be able to fix the problem from within.

[1508] You have to get out and fix it from the outside.

[1509] And if enough people can get out and start to assist from the outside, then there's a chance.

[1510] There's a chance of fixing this.

[1511] There's a chance.

[1512] He's trying to break up the neighborhood.

[1513] That's what I heard.

[1514] Just fucking Doros is trying to break up the neighborhood.

[1515] I was laughing what Ron, from Ron and Fez about it, like, like, Philly.

[1516] And he's like, you know, like, we were just laughing about, like, when, like, trying to get out of Philly and, like, the suburbs around Philly and stuff.

[1517] And, like, guys just being like, where are you going?

[1518] We got, we got these sandwiches, you know, like, you know what I mean?

[1519] And it's like, we were laughing, because it's just like, yeah.

[1520] Yeah, I like, I would have people be so fucking passive, aggressive, aggressive with.

[1521] me and and you know like it took years and then like when I started to find a little bit of success in the business people that I was friends with would say things to me like fuck you dude oh mr. fucking comedians back in town and it's like this is just shit people do wherever you live they don't always do that though there's a lot of people that don't do that but I know there's a little bit of that crabs in a bucket shit going on the east coast Yes.

[1522] East Coast more so, I think, and I, we've talked about this before, but I believe it's because they're the children of immigrants that, like, almost everyone on the East Coast is the grandfathers or the great -grandfathers came over from Europe or some other country, landed on the East Coast and stayed there.

[1523] Whereas by the time people got to the West Coast, they're a bit more progressive, people more wanderlust, more people like looking for different options.

[1524] See, I don't totally agree.

[1525] I think it happens here in a very different way.

[1526] How does it happen here?

[1527] I think here there's a, there's a massive, I'd say almost bleeding heart, liberal mentality.

[1528] And at least from what I've experienced here, as being somebody who needs to sort of assimilate into this system that's here.

[1529] You know what I mean?

[1530] like I'm not to a point in my life where I can kind of just go off and do my own thing and and be okay like I still need to like meet the right people and and kind of work my way into the system and all that stuff and familiarize myself with them and I find that there is a very very very like I said almost bleeding heart mentality here and it feels it feels like the same thing to me except in the other direction where it's like don't go against the pack don't say that.

[1531] Don't you dare say that because...

[1532] Let me just clarify.

[1533] You're talking about show business.

[1534] Well, in my L .A. experience, but I think the city itself, I think the Cal at least Southern California, I think there's a certain common mentality that exists here.

[1535] Like, hey, you can't act that way.

[1536] That's too edgy, meaning on edge, not meaning you're saying edgy things.

[1537] But you're, the majority of the people that you're communicating with are show business people, though, right?

[1538] Probably, yeah.

[1539] The problem with the show business that you're communicating, came with you talking about like people on television and things along those lines is that there's a lot of people trying to get people to hire them for things trying to get people to cast them in shows trying to get people to give them deals trying to get people to like them right and the way to get people to like them is to subscribe to whatever popular opinions these people subscribe to and in show business it's almost universally liberal and that's one of the things that people like charlton Heston or John Voight or Clint Eastwood have always complained about.

[1540] These are the rare Hollywood conservatives because everyone in Hollywood's liberal.

[1541] And I think that there's some valid discussion to that, but I think it's also the nature of the beast itself where you want people to like you.

[1542] You want people to accept you.

[1543] And there's a lot of fake fucks out here because of that.

[1544] Because the business itself, it sort of rewards fakery.

[1545] It rewards conformity.

[1546] And the conformity a lot of it is this sort of left wing liberal thinking so and what i'm what i'm saying is and i agree with you that's how they get work and i agree with you uh what i'm saying is though i think that mentality exists everywhere it can sure that i want people to like me you're it's it's survival it's survival it's it's yeah you know i think it was a like there's a car in line where he says species first in first interest is always survival uh so like you know i think I just think that's a thing everywhere.

[1547] It's why whenever any one of us is at a party and we're outnumbered in opinion, whether it's a political discussion or a fucking discussion about people think Katie Perry's the best, whatever.

[1548] That's when you just have to just walk away.

[1549] Well, sure.

[1550] But the best what?

[1551] She's got great tense.

[1552] We're done.

[1553] We're basically done now.

[1554] But you won't walk away, sure.

[1555] But I'm saying like most of us feel that you tense up and you go, I don't want to say I don't really like Katie Perry's tits because now everybody in the room's going to be like, what the fuck are you talking about, dude?

[1556] Do you see what I'm saying?

[1557] Like, I just, I don't know.

[1558] It might be putting too fine a point on it, sorry.

[1559] Yeah, I know what you're saying, though.

[1560] I know what you're saying.

[1561] There's definitely a strong urge to conform.

[1562] It's part of being a human being.

[1563] And yeah, you're right.

[1564] It's part of like the only way you can ensure your survival is that you're a part of a group.

[1565] I mean, that's ingrained in our DNA because at one point in time, that's how we survived when marauding tribes.

[1566] come into our villages you had to stay united as a united front and i think there's it's a stronger urge in these places where you know like in philly in places along those lines where you know these communities stay intact whereas in l .a there's more wandering l .a everyone's transient they came here from another place they move around and i don't think it's the same thing but there's definitely like brian posted that thing up i don't know if you saw it but they they did a twitter map of hate speech east coast to west coast and racial yeah and homophobic yeah look at it and it looks at it Look at it.

[1567] It's overwhelmingly east coast.

[1568] Yeah.

[1569] Okay.

[1570] Okay.

[1571] And I personally, is just my own theory.

[1572] It's probably like Michael Jackson doesn't have any balls theory.

[1573] It's probably sucks.

[1574] But I think that a lot of that has to do with the spread of immigration and that my own experience with immigrants.

[1575] My grandparents were immigrants on both sides.

[1576] And I grew up in, you know, New Jersey and then in Boston.

[1577] And I grew up around a lot of immigrants, people that, you know, were children of immigrants or grandchildren of immigrants.

[1578] And I think that That's a lot of what happens.

[1579] I think there's just a trap, you know, and it's not as bad as a trap that's in the impoverished black communities, but it's still a very similar trap.

[1580] Sure.

[1581] As far as a behavioral trap.

[1582] Sure.

[1583] People are fucking strange, man, because it took a lot of work to get to 2014 with all the rhinos and lions and fucking poisonous bugs and all the shit that's out there that could fuck you up.

[1584] Sure.

[1585] It took a long time and a lot of work for us to get to where we are today with lava lamps and laptops.

[1586] and shit you know we had to we had to get our way through a lot of things we had to stay protected while we innovate you know here's a crazy thing i just totally off subject but i think we've beaten this to death anyway um they found a huge underground reservoir recently that holds three times as much water as the earth's oceans yeah how is that possible it's well this is on it's on fucking nova okay this is a pbs website that has this this is it's unbelievable this is an unbelievable discovery.

[1587] It's a study that was published in Science magazine that Earth's water may have been there all along, oozing out gradually from the rock deep in the crust that was pressed up by intense heat and pressure below the surface.

[1588] Because a lot of our theories about how Earth became so covered in water was that was comets.

[1589] When you see a comet streaking across the sky, what you're seeing is melting ice.

[1590] You're seeing enormous, you know, miles wide chunks of ice that are flying through space.

[1591] And the trail, the tail of the comet is actually ice being, you know, evaporating as these things fly through the air.

[1592] So this is this new study that they have found this water in these subterranean, I don't know how it, I don't understand it.

[1593] It's called subterranean wood woodite ringwoodite R -I -N -G -W -O -O -D -I -T -E I don't know what that means A deep blue mineral chemically similar to Peridot P -E -R -I -D -O -T A green mineral often used in jewelry And that it's been found In meteorites And this ringwoodite came from the transition Zone between the upper and lower mantle About 400 million miles 400 miles below the earth's surface.

[1594] It's about 15 % of the weight of this stuff turned out to be water.

[1595] And if a lot of this, it says if a lot of this water -heavy mineral existed underground, scientists reasoned there might be enough water to explain where Earth's oceans came from.

[1596] And so then they started doing these studies and tried to figure this out, and they found this insane amount of water below the Earth's surface.

[1597] Okay.

[1598] This is incredible.

[1599] What are they going to do with the water?

[1600] I don't know.

[1601] I don't know.

[1602] The layer holds three times as much water as all the Earth's oceans combined.

[1603] It's incredible.

[1604] So it reduced the, um, this right now people think that the Earth is 96 % water.

[1605] All the, or 96 % of the water is in the ocean.

[1606] Now they're saying it's only 24 % of the water on Earth is in the ocean.

[1607] Really?

[1608] Yeah.

[1609] Is there, I wonder if there's any life in that water.

[1610] I don't think so because I think what they're saying by this, they're saying this, they're saying this, ring woodite stuff it's that water is compressed in this minerals in these minerals see it's this is the exact way they word it obviously i'm an idiot but bear with me northwestern university professor who led the study found water in subterranean ringwoodite a deep blue mineral chemically similar to peridot a green mineral often used in jewelry until a sample turned up in 2008 in a diamond coughed up from a volcano, Ringwoodite had only been found in meteorites.

[1611] The Ringwoodite came from the transition zone, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[1612] If a lot of this water -heavy mineral existed underground, so this water -heavy mineral is what contains all this water.

[1613] So I don't know if they can get it out of the water.

[1614] See, it sounds like, you know, you would hear that and you would say, oh, there's like rivers under the ocean.

[1615] I don't think they're saying that.

[1616] I think what they're saying is this water -heavy mineral is so dense in the earth's under the earth's mantle that the amount of water in it is much more than the amount that's in the oceans really yeah that's amazing well they're learned you know they're learning shit about the earth just the earth the thing we live on they're learning things every day it's there's all the data's not in yet it's a it's i find it incredibly overwhelming like you know we just had that really long discussion about race and how complicated and how deep that all is and that's just a discussion pertaining to people in just this country yeah not even the people of the entire world and now we're into a discussion about how we're learning about the actual earth and now there's three times more water here than we thought there well whatever it is and it's so fucking over like that discussion into that news piece it's i literally have the same feeling i had when I was at the Grand Canyon and I was like I don't even exist this is like you know what I mean like I've never felt more like a speck of dust right now there I'm I'm completely overwhelmed I really mean that well then they can keep finding these Goldilocks planets these planets in the Goldilocks zone that are they're capable of supporting the same type of life that exists on earth I mean scientists say that life can exist in a bunch of different ways and they never they never thought before like they're finding life in these volcanic vents deep deep deep in the ocean where they never thought that any being could survive the extreme temperatures.

[1617] You know, they're essentially like living off lava and the ocean floor.

[1618] And these vents are giving birth to these weird kind of life forms.

[1619] What are the life forms like down there?

[1620] Some fucking creepy things, some creepy plant life and weird animal life.

[1621] But they found a new type of mushroom that was recent.

[1622] It's a recent study.

[1623] New mushroom that defies classification.

[1624] It's a new type of life, and they just found it.

[1625] But with the lava animal thing, when you say animal life, do you mean literally animal life?

[1626] Well, you know, microscopic things that are alive.

[1627] Like this deep sea mushroom that they found.

[1628] This is a new one that they found.

[1629] This is off of the BBC Science and Environment page.

[1630] There's a mushroom -shaped sea animal discovered off an Australian coast that has defied classification in a tree of life.

[1631] so this is a new type of life form that they've found this is fucking crazy shit man you know finding something like this is extremely rare it's maybe only happened four times in the last 100 years they're saying they don't know what it is they're like what the fuck is this stuff it's like it's not quite a plant that's fucking wild Jesus Christ that's literally Star Trek shit like when there would be plants with like mouths and eyes that might be the beginning of something like that Well, you know, if you think about plants like Venus fly traps and shit like that, where they have carnivorous plants, like, at what point is a plant an animal?

[1632] I mean, when plants start fucking closing it on flies and eating them, I get it, it's a plant, but that's a predator.

[1633] Things lays traps, and it actually has action.

[1634] It moves.

[1635] I always wanted one of those.

[1636] Those are dope.

[1637] Do you have one?

[1638] No, but I should get them.

[1639] Now that I bring it up.

[1640] I had one.

[1641] I had one.

[1642] I had one that died.

[1643] I remember what happened.

[1644] And what do you do?

[1645] You have to buy, like, flies to feed it?

[1646] Yeah, you have to have a shitty house.

[1647] Otherwise, you'd be in rude.

[1648] It's like you wouldn't have a cat and not have cat food.

[1649] You know, if you have a Venus fly chop, you can't just fucking water it.

[1650] You've got to throw some flies in there.

[1651] I wonder what you do.

[1652] Do you buy dead flies?

[1653] Yeah, you probably buy dead flies to feed it or some kind of like larva to feed it?

[1654] You'd have to hope that somebody left a window open otherwise.

[1655] But how cool would that be?

[1656] I'm such a jacket.

[1657] I keep looking at the fucking screen and then it...

[1658] Yeah, that's why I tell people...

[1659] That's why I've been asking to shut these off.

[1660] There's a plant that's a plant that eats rats Get the fuck out of here I'm not kidding I'm not kidding No there's a plant I believe it's in the Amazon It captures rats It captures rats Yeah it eats mice Yeah um Google it Brian Rat eating plant There's a video on wimp .com Don't play the video Because otherwise we'll get another fucking strike against us on YouTube What do you mean It's so bizarre Every time we play videos or things It's like there's all these weird Is it supposed to be fair use Like when you're discussing something online It fits the boundaries of fair use The definition of fair use But people can still dispute it Right It's fair use And then they put a hold on your YouTube video And if it goes against you You get a certain amount of them They can pull your videos down It's just fucking stupid But it is stupid There is a plant It's a carnivorous plant It eats frogs It eats mice It eats all kinds of different shit Really?

[1661] Yeah, if you just Google it.

[1662] It's called, here's a fucking name and a half, right?

[1663] Ew, is that it?

[1664] It's called, yeah, it's called Nepenthis Atenboroughghi.

[1665] Is it possible that you could put it up on the screen and not put it on the screen where the people at home see it?

[1666] Can you do that?

[1667] Meaning we watch it, but they can't see it?

[1668] Yeah.

[1669] Yeah, hold on it.

[1670] Yeah, this just, if you want to Google it, folks, just Google Plant It Eats Rats.

[1671] That's what I did.

[1672] It's fucking incredible.

[1673] I swear to God, I thought you were yelling at him for a second, and I got super uncomfortable.

[1674] What do you mean?

[1675] For a second?

[1676] When you went, is it possible for you?

[1677] And I thought you were going to be like, is it possible for you not to fucking keep switching the screen?

[1678] I thought that's what you were going to deal.

[1679] And I was like, oh, Jesus, I don't want to see this happen.

[1680] You're full with anxiety today, dude.

[1681] I am.

[1682] I am.

[1683] You get a lot of massages?

[1684] No, I get no massages.

[1685] You should get massages every day.

[1686] You should smoke weed every day.

[1687] Smoke weed every day.

[1688] I don't, no, dude, if I, if I, you know, dude, if I, Look at this rat eating plant, man. The folks at home can't see this?

[1689] What are they seeing?

[1690] Just us?

[1691] Your logo.

[1692] Okay, good.

[1693] So this is the fucking plant.

[1694] I guess it's growing here.

[1695] Is that what's going on here?

[1696] Yeah, this is it growing up.

[1697] So it gets to a certain size.

[1698] And when it gets to a certain size, it's completely carnivorous.

[1699] It eats frogs, mice.

[1700] It captures them.

[1701] It opens up, like, this thing.

[1702] I believe it has, like, a sweet fermented smell to it.

[1703] And these things go in it because they think this is, like, some food in there.

[1704] And then it jacks them.

[1705] Is that a snake?

[1706] Or is that...

[1707] No. That's...

[1708] It's like tentacles or whatever the fuck it is.

[1709] Jesus Christ.

[1710] This is literally like little shop of horror shit.

[1711] Yeah, it is.

[1712] It's like invasion of the body snatchers type shit.

[1713] That thing is fucking nasty looking.

[1714] It's enormous, too.

[1715] That's the weird thing about it.

[1716] It's an enormous, enormous thing.

[1717] That literally looks like a Star Trek plant.

[1718] Mm -hmm.

[1719] Yeah, you would think that would be like from...

[1720] avatar or something like that right but it is a real thing thank you for having a more recent reference than star trek that's my that was the best sci -fi i'm terrible sometimes with references i want to do now is it going to show a rat go into it yeah yeah it would eventually show uh something go into it i forget i've seen this video but there's a bunch of videos of them online um these are uh they're fairly recent discoveries too i don't think they discovered it until the two thousands yeah here it is may 2010 the end of International Institute for Species Exploration at Arizona State University selected this plant as one of the top 10 new species described in 2009.

[1721] So in 2009, they started finding that this thing is a real plant.

[1722] I don't understand how we didn't know about a plant till 2009.

[1723] Oh, there's a lot of plants we still don't know about in the Amazon.

[1724] That's incredible to me. Well, the Amazon is so fucking big.

[1725] You know, when you, if there was a weird distortion thing when you look at any sort of a map, you know, Like, have you ever seen, like, a realistic interpretation of the size of continents?

[1726] Uh, no. Yeah, see if, uh, you could find that, Brian, realistic.

[1727] I'm learning a lot today.

[1728] Yeah, realistic size of continents.

[1729] Do you just read this shit, like, constantly?

[1730] Yeah, I got problems, man. No, I don't, I'm not criticizing.

[1731] No, but I do.

[1732] I have problems.

[1733] Um, it's not a problem.

[1734] I'm envious of your knowledge of all this stuff.

[1735] I really wish that I had, uh, I don't know anything about sports.

[1736] I know nothing about sports.

[1737] I asked you before if that guy was the boxing champion that you mentioned.

[1738] Oh, Kane Velasquez.

[1739] Yeah, I didn't even know that.

[1740] The, uh, I, I wish I knew.

[1741] I find this stuff so interesting, and yet I never remember to read any of it.

[1742] And then I start to try to look it up and I can't remember.

[1743] Look, look how fucking big Africa is.

[1744] You can fit a whole United States in there and a China and in India and Italy.

[1745] Like, that...

[1746] I did everything in Africa.

[1747] But, but how the maps were drawn for...

[1748] reasons it just appears smaller yeah holy shit yeah it's crazy and that's just that's the the rainforests in the Congo and the African rainforests but there's also the South American rainforests they're massive the rainforests in Brazil and Peru and down there I mean there's so many plants and that's one of the reason why these pharmaceutical companies keep going down there to try to explore and find out new plants that can provide you know new drugs and good reasons for for cancer medications and cured diseases and things along those lines.

[1749] And also, there's some of them that they're using for, like, they're trying to do research on this ant as an ant called the bullet ant, one of the most painful stings in the world.

[1750] But it doesn't just sting you.

[1751] Oh, not the bullet ant.

[1752] Caps your ass.

[1753] It really fucks you up.

[1754] That one fucks you up.

[1755] They're using that.

[1756] They're trying to use that for something else.

[1757] I got it confused.

[1758] It's actually the Brazilian wandering spider.

[1759] I was going to bring up.

[1760] The Brazilian wandering spider, so it's so fucked up.

[1761] It stings you, it's in the jungle of Brazil, it stings you and gives you an unbelievably painful erection to the point where if you survive, where a lot of people don't, if you survive, your dick is broken forever.

[1762] It'll never work it again.

[1763] It redlines your dick.

[1764] And it works in the same sort of way like Viagra works, where it gives you nitric oxide.

[1765] It produces some massive amount of nitric oxide in your body.

[1766] so all of your muscles become incredibly painful like just just massive agony like think of like your whole body just redlined all the time and your dick your dick's hard as fuck and it breaks it breaks your dick but you don't orgasm like no during this process ever again me maybe stuck your finger up your ass while it was going down you might be able to pull something off it's not make it gross wouldn't be happy coming it'll be the last one yeah the uh that's fucked up What's that thing called?

[1767] It's called the Brazilian wandering spider.

[1768] And so these pharmaceutical companies are trying to figure out how to make that the new, like, super Viagra.

[1769] How to take, not that they need it.

[1770] Like, doesn't Viagra work?

[1771] Can't they just move on?

[1772] And the reason is, it's like they want to have something that's new.

[1773] You know, it's like there's competing forces.

[1774] Like, there's Viagra, then there's...

[1775] Seales came along.

[1776] We last longer.

[1777] And then, you know, there's other ones...

[1778] We don't give you as much of a headache.

[1779] And then there's this one and that one.

[1780] And they're always trying to find some new one, but they're trying to figure out a way to use this evil fucking murderous spiders venom and get your dick hard with it it's like that old it's like that old leery joke about cocaine or crack he's like only this is the only country where cocaine wouldn't be fast enough somebody needed something faster but that's how it is with those with those penis drugs it's like how much fucking stronger and faster does this need to get how much harder does that your dick need to be it's an unnatural yeah erection i don't mean just because it's caused unnaturally I mean, the type of erection you get from it is fucking unnatural.

[1781] That's great.

[1782] You know?

[1783] Well, it's also if you found that, like, say if they found that, they've isolated components in plants that can give you that, what else is out there?

[1784] Is there something out there that makes kids grow taller?

[1785] Is there something out there that cures autism?

[1786] Is there something out there that makes your hair grow back?

[1787] Is there something out there that, you know, there's so many hundreds of thousands of plants that are undiscovered?

[1788] I mean, there's just areas where they just don't go.

[1789] people don't get to the density of the rainforest is just so incredible i'm i'm i'm absolutely amazed that this spider the wandering spider can do this to you and scientists are forget like that it's even stronger than viagra but like that scientists are like let's fuck with that let's see what we can get out of it you know what i mean like it's just no leave that thing alone it's the worst thing in the world leave it alone don't try to unless you're going to try to make some kind of bio weapon with it you know what i mean like leave it the fuck alone yeah it's one of the worst um apparently one of the worst stings you can ever get one of the most toxic venoms that uh they've ever discovered a lot of people die from it too that sounds horrible what a terrible world that's one of the things i don't like about the west coast is like there's a much higher concentration of like poisonous spiders and shit out here that was never a thing on the east coast but i saw like i had a black widow in my house one day and i was just like what the fuck twice now in my house i've killed spiders that have like clear spots on their tail or not tail but you know what i mean the the butt part whatever that's called what's that one of them was a fucking black widow it had a big fucking dot on its back a red big red thing on it was red or white i can't remember which black widow which the black widow is but whatever it is it was that yeah they fuck with i mean they don't fuck with you you you have to like get near them and scare them for them to sting you but they're goddamn everywhere out here yeah oh dude Black widows are all over the place.

[1790] My back porch is literally, you can find 20 of them and just sitting down.

[1791] They're everywhere.

[1792] I have so much trees and spider webs.

[1793] And what sucks is at night I'll go out and have a cigarette and I've walked through so many spider webs.

[1794] I'm surprised that I...

[1795] Did you ever get bit by one?

[1796] I probably.

[1797] I have to have it.

[1798] Isn't a black widow, like, very poisonous?

[1799] I think the brown widow is...

[1800] I don't know.

[1801] I know one of them's more poisonous than the other.

[1802] My ex -girlfriend's dog actually died from getting...

[1803] Bitten by one of the windows.

[1804] Jesus Christ.

[1805] Are we allowed to go to the bathroom on this show?

[1806] Yeah, go pee, man. Go pee.

[1807] We'll talk about phones where you're going.

[1808] Like, as you're talking about the hardest dick of all time, I have like a piss -boater.

[1809] He's going to jack off in there.

[1810] I got to think he is.

[1811] Look at them.

[1812] He's excited.

[1813] It's going to jack off to alleviate anxiety.

[1814] Did you check out the new iPhones and the new watch and all that stuff?

[1815] Yeah, they look pretty cool.

[1816] Did you hear about the Macworld staff got almost all of them got laid off today?

[1817] They had to work like crazy covering the launch of the new.

[1818] phones and then today like everybody got laid off the biggest apple news day of the year and they laid off like almost the entire staff well it's so i mean that's that's ridiculous but it's amazing that they even lasted this long you know right i mean because it's a magazine yeah i mean what's magazines are so pointless you have to print it yeah by time you buy mac world right now it's not talking about the new iPhones it's not talking about all the news in the last month even probably it's okay it's going away what they're saying is macworld .com will still continue but macworld print is gone it's it economic reality of running a print publication you know what they should do bring back silent movies i heard they're making a comeback do you guys know how to make smoke signals sell smoke signals yeah they're going away why is everybody sad it sucks that those folks lost their jobs but they should just trans they what they should have done is just transition those writers into the macworld dot com thing they should have worked on it they were valuable employees And, you know, everybody's pissed off.

[1819] A lot of people are pissed off because they made these people work really hard and go crazy to, you know, to launch this new product and to cover the launch.

[1820] And that, you know, these people have this grueling day of marathon iPhone coverage.

[1821] And then they fired them.

[1822] They're also, we're geeking the fuck out.

[1823] They're like, dude, we're at the Apple event.

[1824] This is so cool.

[1825] Let's take pictures and call it a job.

[1826] Yeah, there's always going to be a little of that, right?

[1827] It's going to be a little of that.

[1828] What I find interesting is the new payment plans that they're introducing with this new iPhone where you're pretty much not going to have a credit card anymore.

[1829] You're not going to have your bank cards anymore.

[1830] You're just waving your phones, and it's sending out a unique number to the cash register.

[1831] It's almost like how it's bitcoins are, where it's interesting.

[1832] But does it have to work where the people at the cash register have to have a device to pick it up?

[1833] Is that what it is?

[1834] Yeah.

[1835] Do they have that already for Androids?

[1836] I don't know.

[1837] But before the launch, Apple is working with all the biggest credit card companies like, you know, Chase and Capital One and all that.

[1838] So a lot of big stores already have it.

[1839] I know, like, there is versions of it that existed already.

[1840] Like, when I pay at Starbucks, I use my phone, you know, but it scans it.

[1841] This is inside the phone.

[1842] I think it's called Near Frequency NFS or something like that where it sends out a, signal.

[1843] It's actually like a little local radio based.

[1844] I wonder like if it has a limit.

[1845] Can you buy a car like that?

[1846] Could you go to a Ford dealership and pick up a Mustang?

[1847] You'll have your credit card.

[1848] Your AMX, American Express, black or whatever you have.

[1849] Wow.

[1850] You would have it on your phone.

[1851] That would be dope as fuck to buy a car with your phone.

[1852] Yeah.

[1853] I don't even know why I want to buy a car with my phone.

[1854] But I want to buy a car with my phone.

[1855] That seems so ridiculous.

[1856] So they're 4 .7 inches and 5 .5 inches is the new iPhone?

[1857] Yeah.

[1858] It's Congratulations, you finally caught up, you're fucking idiots.

[1859] Should have done that a million years ago.

[1860] Jesus Christ, they're fucking iPads.

[1861] They've advanced the sync technology, which is nice with that, like, pass it off feature.

[1862] Put that back up to Brian?

[1863] Yeah, I'm going to try to find a better...

[1864] So the 4 .7 inch...

[1865] This is what?

[1866] 4 inches?

[1867] The 5S?

[1868] 4 inches?

[1869] Yes.

[1870] And I have a Samsung Galaxy S5, which is only...

[1871] It's 5 inches.

[1872] Yeah.

[1873] That's 5 .5, I believe.

[1874] That's fucking giant.

[1875] That's as big as what I had I used to have the note Which was like 5 -7 I think Right yeah Somewhere on then I think the galaxy's 5 -5 or 53 It's bigger than the new iPhone I did a comparison The galaxy's bigger The note or the Well both The galaxy S5 Well the galaxy is bigger Than the regular iPhone 6 The iPhone 6 extra large Or whatever the fuck it's called Deluxe I think is either the same size As the galaxy or a little bigger Put that up again so I can see it.

[1876] Yeah, I'm trying to...

[1877] Find better ones.

[1878] But I did a side -by -side with the regular new iPhone 6 in the Galaxy S -5.

[1879] Well, the good thing about the big one is that it's supposed to have two hours more of battery life.

[1880] Yeah, the battery's way better for some reason on...

[1881] Motherfuckers.

[1882] They always get you with the big one.

[1883] Well, but, you know, they've been saying this for every fucking iPhone that comes out.

[1884] They go, the battery's better now, and no, it's not.

[1885] It's never been better once.

[1886] It is better.

[1887] The issue is that you have more need for juice because you have 4G LTE and 3G and you know Wi -Fi and all that stuff things are more intensive like programs games they just use more juice so the batteries are better but it depends on what you're using them for but they never break it down like that they always go like this new one they go this new battery 11 hours of video watching time it's like yeah no that's what you said the last two phones and it's never that.

[1888] And then when you complain, they go, well, see, because you're Bluetooth, fuck you, Apple.

[1889] There's a lot of reasons.

[1890] One of the biggest reasons is if you don't have good service in your house and it's always searching for signals and stuff like that.

[1891] Wi -Fi and all that stuff is the thing that drains you out.

[1892] Because you'll have your Wi -Fi on your phone and then you'll go to Chili's and so the whole time it's like trying to search for Wi -Fi, you don't even realize that it's just draining your battery.

[1893] It's amazing what just simple like turning on airplane mode or does to your, you know, or Yeah, that's true.

[1894] Turning off Wi -Fi, turning off Bluetooth, turning off, you know.

[1895] Yeah, some people turn off 4G, right?

[1896] Yeah.

[1897] That's dumb.

[1898] What about your cunts?

[1899] It's terrible.

[1900] If you try to go online with 3G now, you're so spoiled.

[1901] Aubrey, my friend Aubrey has a Tesla.

[1902] It's fucking dope.

[1903] It's the most ridiculous car.

[1904] Those crazy electric cars.

[1905] And is this the phone?

[1906] Yeah.

[1907] He has a crazy electric car, and they're not We're not showing that where we get pulled, are we?

[1908] No, no, it's just...

[1909] Just for us?

[1910] Yeah.

[1911] His Tesla, his car has a giant screen, man. This huge screen.

[1912] It's like a laptop, like a...

[1913] Bigger than a laptop.

[1914] It's like an iMac that's in the middle of the console.

[1915] And that's where everything is.

[1916] It doesn't have any buttons.

[1917] Everything is all touchscreen on this thing, and you talk to it.

[1918] Like, he could say, play Joe DeRosa comedy.

[1919] And it'll go to Spotify.

[1920] And it'll go, why?

[1921] I'm going to come over there and hug you Like we were in the car And he said Come up with a you know say anything I go Arctic Monkeys So he goes play Arctic Monkeys It goes finds it on Spotify Brings up a list of songs He presses play and starts playing an Arctic Monkeys song But it's 3G And I was like where's the 4G bitch You ain't got it no 4G up in this motherfucker That's no G is like It's kind of slow Oh, geez, no G. What's that?

[1922] Here's the, it's talking about the new camera that's in the iPhone, but here's interesting, the new payment thing.

[1923] Check us out.

[1924] With iPhone 6, we're introducing Apple Pay.

[1925] Hmm.

[1926] Fast, easy, secure.

[1927] Mobile payments.

[1928] I don't think this pay thing is a great idea.

[1929] I think it's awesome, man, you can pay with your dick.

[1930] Because if you use your thumb for thumb recognition, you can use your dick for dick recognition.

[1931] You'll find the unique pattern on your skin of your cock, and then you could buy things with your cock.

[1932] Listen, it's, it's, it's, it's not hear me. No, I heard you.

[1933] I've been rubbing my dick on my phone for years.

[1934] No, but I think's bad about it.

[1935] I remember years ago, Burgo's, uh, he goes, they're moving in all the phone, dude.

[1936] They're moving it all the fucking phone.

[1937] And then the second, the government decides they want to shut you down, boom, you're done.

[1938] Because it's all the, and it's happening now.

[1939] I used to be like, you're nuts.

[1940] What are you talking about?

[1941] And now it's finally happening.

[1942] It's like your life is on that fucking phone.

[1943] Your life.

[1944] But you choose to put your life on that phone.

[1945] I mean, there's a lot of things on that phone.

[1946] But, you know, if you want, you can do whatever you want, man. You don't have to jump along.

[1947] You could be that guy that lives up in fucking Big Bear.

[1948] You got a cabin somewhere and you chop your own wood and you got a water well that you get all your water.

[1949] You could be that guy if you really wanted to.

[1950] You just have to move towards that.

[1951] You got to jump along, dude.

[1952] Jump along?

[1953] You got to.

[1954] You said you don't have to jump along.

[1955] You got to jump along.

[1956] belong.

[1957] Do you want to watch?

[1958] Look at the watch.

[1959] No. They're fucking retarded.

[1960] I think it's stupid.

[1961] I think it's if it catches on like the iPhone did, everyone has it.

[1962] It's going to make so much more sense because being able to just go like to your wrist, be like, get me directions, you know, talk to your wrist or there's also this interesting technology in it.

[1963] If you have a phone on, Joe, or if you have a wrist on and you're my contacts, I can send you private messages just to your like, hey, check out the chick going through the door right now or send you like a quick drawing of something you only you would have to use it for creeping on people it won't be suspicious at all as you're staring at your watch and your lips are moving I like that it works with like a winder thing like it doesn't have a touchscreen the winder thing is how they use it that little thing is a handle yeah the knob on the side is it's going to be interesting though because it seems like that's you know could cause also problems if you hit it in it's You know, sends a phone call.

[1964] Starts fucking looking for directions to the moon.

[1965] Directions on your wrist that are tiny.

[1966] It just doesn't seem convenient to me. That seems goofy.

[1967] But I like the heart rate monitor thing.

[1968] Oh, it's got different bands, too?

[1969] It's got three different models.

[1970] There's actually a gold one, which is rumored to me maybe even over thousands of dollars.

[1971] Oh, yeah.

[1972] And they have a sport edition, which is like a rubber, like more.

[1973] Show me the diamond -encrusted one for rappers.

[1974] Is there a diamond -encrusted one for rappers?

[1975] No. Not yet.

[1976] I'm going to get into that business tomorrow.

[1977] Call my account.

[1978] Put all the money in diamonds and watches.

[1979] Yeah, I don't know, man. I just think it's just kind of pointless.

[1980] I love how they use an English guy to sell it.

[1981] You know why?

[1982] Because you can't use a guy from New York.

[1983] Check out this gold edition.

[1984] The metallurgists have developed to be up to twice as hard as standard gold.

[1985] They developed to be up to twice as hard as, you know, standard gold.

[1986] You can't have that.

[1987] Nobody would trust him.

[1988] Yeah, you see it.

[1989] You have to have some guy from another land.

[1990] Well, maybe they're different in this other land called England.

[1991] I want to hear one of them sell this product.

[1992] It sounds much more respectable.

[1993] I see that knob breaking a lot.

[1994] That's the next broken iPhone.

[1995] You think so?

[1996] Broken knob here.

[1997] Stop working?

[1998] Yeah.

[1999] Could be.

[2000] I mean, the one thing about Apple is they're pretty good about testing shit pretty rigorously before they release it.

[2001] I guess the biggest problem is seven.

[2002] but the biggest problem is is that the battery they're not happy with because right now supposedly it's rumored the battery lasts about a day and they want it you know days right and when they say a day does that mean a day with you using it right or a day with a regular normal person who has a job using it yeah and they say a day on the iPhones too and it's nowhere never fucking near it i'm going to make the best point that anybody it's impossible has made about this okay right now on this show Okay.

[2003] Here's why that's a dumb idea.

[2004] The new iPhone has a significantly bigger screen for a fucking reason.

[2005] This is a completely tiny, completely inconvenient screen.

[2006] Who the fuck wants that?

[2007] Everybody wants a device that's easier to use.

[2008] And I don't see how this is...

[2009] This is like when they did the iPod Nano and they tried to put it all on the screen and it was too fucking small.

[2010] I'll tell you why.

[2011] This is as easy as it is.

[2012] You have your phone in your pocket.

[2013] You're talking to somebody.

[2014] You have a little vibrate on your hand.

[2015] You look down, Joe's calling me. Is it vibrating in your pocket?

[2016] No, no. Or does it vibrate too?

[2017] It's got, it has, you could turn on both if you want.

[2018] What if a girl's giving you a hand job and you feel your dick vibrate?

[2019] And then she starts looking at a wrist and she wants to stop.

[2020] That'll be annoying.

[2021] Somebody else is texting her, cock blocking you.

[2022] I mean, this is what I'm talking about.

[2023] Nobody thinks ahead.

[2024] I'm thinking ahead.

[2025] We had a time.

[2026] Yeah, we got five minutes.

[2027] Oh, okay.

[2028] Joe DeRosa, this was fun.

[2029] What was this about?

[2030] six, seven hours?

[2031] Three hours.

[2032] We did three hours.

[2033] Was it a full three?

[2034] Yeah.

[2035] I had a great time.

[2036] It was fun, man. I felt like it was all different types of things were happening today.

[2037] Yeah, I hope we alleviated any anxiety that might have come up.

[2038] Oh, that's me, dude.

[2039] That's all me. That's not you.

[2040] I hope it didn't escalate it.

[2041] Every social interaction for me is Vietnam.

[2042] I'm taking this home with me. This is going to be an all night thing.

[2043] Don't worry about it.

[2044] Do a set tonight.

[2045] Are you working?

[2046] when you're in town?

[2047] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[2048] Everybody's being very nice to me. Okay, cool.

[2049] You know, the Death Squad guys have welcomed me with open arms, which I'm very appreciative for.

[2050] Thank you guys.

[2051] Where can people find you this weekend?

[2052] Are you in town?

[2053] Are you working?

[2054] Tomorrow, I don't even know.

[2055] I'm just doing spots around town this weekend, but if I'm going to plug something, I really would like to plug my new album, mistakes were made, the B -Sides on iTunes and Amazon, 10 bucks.

[2056] What's that available?

[2057] It's available now.

[2058] Double -length album of rarities from the last seven years.

[2059] Oh, nice.

[2060] And then my podcast, which you can get on my website or on iTunes.

[2061] It's called Down with Joe DeRosa.

[2062] I'd love to have more people come and listen.

[2063] I talk about one topic for an hour, well, one topic for an hour, usually by myself.

[2064] Excellent.

[2065] And all that stuff, I'll retweet that right now.

[2066] I'm retweeting it right now.

[2067] Thanks, buddy.

[2068] And that the site is Joe DeRosa Comedy?

[2069] Jodoroza Comedy .com.

[2070] You can find all this stuff there.

[2071] That's also his tweet.

[2072] Twitter, Joe DeRosa Comedy, and thanks, brother.

[2073] That was fun, man. Thank you very much.

[2074] Thank you.

[2075] I had a blast.

[2076] Thank you so much.

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[2096] And that's it.

[2097] Much love, big kiss.

[2098] See you soon.

[2099] Ice House is sold out this weekend.

[2100] So you snoozed.

[2101] There's a thunder pussy you can go there.

[2102] Oh, thunder pussy's there as well.

[2103] Friday night.

[2104] See you.

[2105] Big kiss.