#1641 - Matty Matheson

[0] The Joe Rogan Podcast, checking out.

[1] The Joe Rogan Experience.

[2] Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

[3] Yeah.

[4] The first thing I say is it's a buttered.

[5] For you, for anybody else would be a real issue.

[6] For you, it's on brand.

[7] I'm on brand.

[8] Yeah, you're always on brand.

[9] I am a brand.

[10] Dude, speaking of on brand, you fuck this podcast up because you stepped in here with some Franklin's brisket.

[11] My God, sir.

[12] You made everybody, you put everybody in.

[13] into a sedated state.

[14] Franklin's Brisket, by the way, may I say, that was my first time eating it, and the fucking hype is real.

[15] The hype is real.

[16] It's a beautiful thing.

[17] Aaron, beautiful person, beautiful brisket.

[18] You're welcome.

[19] I'm trying to slow you down.

[20] Slow me down.

[21] I'm trying to slow you down a little bit.

[22] Bring you down to my level.

[23] I'm a slow guy.

[24] I like to move.

[25] I'm like a sea turtle.

[26] You got a lot of energy, though, dude.

[27] I got a lot of energy packed up in here.

[28] I watch your show.

[29] I'm like a sugar packet.

[30] I'm a fan of your program.

[31] I enjoy what you do.

[32] Cheers.

[33] Hey.

[34] To your health.

[35] To yours.

[36] That's hot.

[37] That's fucking hot.

[38] That is a boiling pot of fucking coffee.

[39] Got me. Coffee, boys.

[40] Okay.

[41] So the best brisket I've ever had up until today is Terry Blacks.

[42] Yeah.

[43] And Franklin's is just as good.

[44] It is not better.

[45] It is not better.

[46] It is amazing.

[47] I don't think there's better.

[48] I think we were talking about this.

[49] Better isn't always best.

[50] There's a level of barbecue, you're just like, holy fucking shit.

[51] Yep.

[52] And there's quite a few places like that.

[53] There's a lot of holy shits.

[54] There's a lot of holy shits, and I think there's a lot.

[55] Franklin's is holy shit.

[56] Franklin is holy shit.

[57] Franklin makes you want to, like, shit your pants, rub your feet.

[58] So juicy.

[59] Juicy.

[60] Crispy, the barking.

[61] Oh, my God.

[62] The rendered fat within the molecules.

[63] And I only had two pieces, but I'm like, burr.

[64] You're sleepy.

[65] Don't, we've got to bring you back.

[66] You've got to drink some of your, your hot fucking coffee pitch.

[67] This black, black rifle.

[68] That's a fucking shout out.

[69] That's a shout out.

[70] I just want to ask you a quick question.

[71] This is an easy question.

[72] Okay, Maddie.

[73] Have you ever listened to my podcast?

[74] No. I have a podcast called Powerful Truth Angels.

[75] No. Okay?

[76] I have a podcast called Powerful Truth Angels.

[77] The name's amazing.

[78] It's incredible.

[79] Do you have a T -shirt?

[80] I made it.

[81] This is our first one we've ever made.

[82] I sharpied it because I was like, I'm going on like the biggest.

[83] This is like the, what is it?

[84] The Oprah of Podcast.

[85] Broper.

[86] The Broper.

[87] The Broper.

[88] So I was just like, I need to wear a shirt because I have, I have a podcast with my co -host, Two -tone.

[89] And I just wanted to quickly, I know this is a big podcast.

[90] It's doing well.

[91] It's doing pretty good.

[92] It's doing well.

[93] And so I just wanted to take this chance to just.

[94] Shout out your own show.

[95] Shout out my own show, because I just thought that this is, you know, I'm trying.

[96] I won't talk about it again.

[97] Do I want a picture of you with the angel wings and maybe some sort of a weapon?

[98] Yeah, like a crossboat, bazooka.

[99] Grenade launcher.

[100] Yeah, grenade launcher.

[101] Flame laser eyes.

[102] And maybe some of them, um, the old school runner's goggles.

[103] Runner goggles.

[104] You know those, what the fucks is that guy's name?

[105] What Larry and Tyson?

[106] The Bosworth?

[107] Brian Bosworth.

[108] Remember he used to have those goggles from back in the day?

[109] Terminator goggles.

[110] The Terminator?

[111] Oh, like just like the little Oakley guys.

[112] Yeah, like, uh.

[113] Wind stripes.

[114] Tactical.

[115] Tactical.

[116] Like Roca tactical.

[117] Yeah.

[118] If you were, you know, shooting guns.

[119] If I was a tactical person shooting guns in the mountains.

[120] range and I would have those to protect me because anywhere I looked I'd be protected from the sun always a perfect pitch and temperature of color maybe like a yellow tint no no no no no no is he the guy in cold steel no what was his movie he was in like a biker movie wasn't he was a famous football player who blew his shoulder out look at that guy and then he became a movie star for like one movie the boss what a handsome bastard though huh oh my god look that chin I wish my dick was as nice as that Those right there.

[121] Those goggles.

[122] Dice Clay has some of those, too.

[123] Yeah, the dice, man. But those kind of goggles.

[124] Like you with those kind of goggles and a grenade launcher.

[125] Look at the flat top.

[126] A flat top's great.

[127] Did you ever have a flat top?

[128] I feel you were a flat top guy.

[129] Like a little one, like a crew cup.

[130] Crew cut.

[131] I had a crew cut.

[132] I never got it flat, though.

[133] No. Never truly flat.

[134] No. It takes a lot to go all the way flat.

[135] Yeah, it's a weird look.

[136] The flat top.

[137] I feel like black guys can pull it off really well.

[138] Chris Rock had a nice.

[139] He had a nice one, Chris Rock, great guy.

[140] Kid and Play.

[141] Remember, he had the real tall one.

[142] That's the biggest, that's the one, I feel.

[143] That is the one.

[144] Super high top.

[145] Oh, the super high tops.

[146] It's so nice.

[147] But the, you know, I'm glad you acknowledge Powerful Truth Angels.

[148] Are you a graffiti guy?

[149] Are you into graffiti?

[150] I enjoy it if it's consensual.

[151] Yes.

[152] I think there's a problem with graffiti.

[153] It's like, I have amazing art that I'm putting on your fucking building.

[154] Yes.

[155] Hey, dick.

[156] Don't fucking spray shirt on my house or my building or my building or my, alleyway.

[157] It's an asshole move.

[158] It's an asshole move.

[159] But sometimes they're super talented artists.

[160] Yes.

[161] So my partner, Alex, on the podcast, he's a, he's a, he's an iconic graffiti writer, like an OG Venice.

[162] Yeah, like an OG dude from Venice.

[163] And, uh, and that's all I want to say.

[164] Graffiti is, uh, you know, problematic because you're destroying property, but it is a beautiful art form.

[165] Yeah, if you have like an abandoned building and someone gives you the green light, fuck yeah.

[166] Go do it.

[167] Yeah.

[168] No, I think.

[169] I think there's a lot of really dope graffiti artists.

[170] They make amazing stuff.

[171] Wasn't there an issue where it wasn't really graffiti?

[172] It was more of a mural.

[173] Someone had painted a mural and then someone bought the building.

[174] I think it was in Brooklyn.

[175] And they just like, fuck this and they painted over.

[176] And everybody shit their pants.

[177] They're like, what the fuck?

[178] That was art. Yeah, it was art. That was art. You just took down the Picasso of the graffiti.

[179] But that's the question, right?

[180] If you buy a building and the building is covered with beautiful art, Are you obligated to keep it looking exactly the same?

[181] Because that doesn't seem very fucking American.

[182] No. I think you can do whatever you want when you buy a building.

[183] Yeah, just take a picture of it.

[184] And send it to a guy who made the art. Yeah, take a picture.

[185] NFT it.

[186] Treat it like it's a sandcastle.

[187] Good job, but when it rains.

[188] It's over.

[189] That's a wrap.

[190] Me buying the building is when the rain comes.

[191] I like the notepad.

[192] This is such a nice...

[193] I really am excited to be here.

[194] I'm excited to have you here.

[195] You know, and I want to say when I was a young kid and at the beginning of the UFC, My family were very into the UFC at the beginning.

[196] And they still are to this day.

[197] But me and my friends, it was amazing.

[198] My parents used to, we would watch them at the very beginning, like the Hoyst Gracie and the tanks and the early shit.

[199] Like you'd have like a 500 -pound sumo guy fighting a karate person that's 120 pounds.

[200] And we used to fight.

[201] My parents used to, like all of our parents' friends, they would have all the kids.

[202] And we would have to, after the UFC, we would all have to fight each other.

[203] It was like Battle Royal.

[204] And me and my two brothers, and then all of our friends would all.

[205] always be over there and we would have to fight each other after we were all ramped up my parents would just be all around drinking having a good time watching their kids beat the shit out of each other and that seems very Canadian yeah it was nice you know a 10 year old just fighting like a 16 year old and you're just like you know after watching you know hoist Gracie chokehold somebody I don't know do you may think maybe think that some of that early head trauma is responsible for your outrageous behavior I think there's there yeah there's just a lot of there's a lot of damage up here There's a lot of damage.

[206] There's a lot of shaken up.

[207] I'm like a bag of milk, you know, a Canadian bag.

[208] There's a lot of stuff inside and wants to get out, but it moves around.

[209] I think I've never had as a, I've never had a black eye in my life.

[210] Really?

[211] And never.

[212] And I've been in a lot of fights, and I've been punched in the face a million times.

[213] And for some reason, I've never had a black eye.

[214] That's pretty crazy.

[215] It is.

[216] And I remember one time a New Year's Eve party.

[217] I was hammered before, you know, this is early shit.

[218] And I got so drunk and I was so funny.

[219] And I started, I was like, I want a fucking black eye.

[220] And I told everyone at the party was allowed to punch me in the face as hard as they could.

[221] Jesus Christ.

[222] And I was like, line up?

[223] Line the fuck up, you losers?

[224] And I was like, you fucking losers.

[225] You fucking losers.

[226] You guys don't know how to punch.

[227] You can't punch.

[228] You can't punch me in the face.

[229] And I would like fucking fuck with them.

[230] And then I'd be like, punch me in the face.

[231] and then at the end of the night I had all these welts all over my face but nobody still got me clean in the face where I got the fucking black eye and I don't know why I'm just going I'm just jumping Joe we're jumping I'm fine with jumping we're gonna jump around for a little bit and I used to give my friends black eyes for their birthdays unbeknownst to them so I would sneak up if it was your birthday back in the day I would sneak up and fucking pop you in the fucking face and then you get a black eye for me for your birthday this is what happens when you grow up in the woods People get really bored The kids beat the shit out of each other In front of the parents while they're drunk You're asking people to punch you You punch them when they're not asking for it What is this?

[232] No, what's happening?

[233] Yes Sparring Look at that I almost did a backhand Look at the Well the problem is those fucking head gear They can't see shit with those head gears They can't see anything Look at that Oh my goodness Big overhand to kick to the groin Look at the see Spinning just spinning around like a top Look at that I think he felled out.

[234] Look at that, the spin kick and the back hand.

[235] See, these kids can't.

[236] Oh, they're going right to it.

[237] They can't hurt each other.

[238] They're not hitting hard.

[239] So they should take the fucking headgear off so they can at least see what they're doing.

[240] They should.

[241] Because they're not hitting hard.

[242] They should take everything off.

[243] They should bare knuckle.

[244] You can't hit hard enough.

[245] My son is five and I swear he could break my nose.

[246] Well, the thing about hitting all, like with the, you could poke someone in the eye.

[247] That could be real.

[248] Yes, that's bad.

[249] So I don't think they should take the gloves off, but they definitely should take the headgear off.

[250] Because those are like fucking 10 -ounce gloves.

[251] These kids weighed 20 pounds.

[252] They're not going to hurt each other with those.

[253] I love the running and the kick.

[254] That's like me fighting it now.

[255] Jesus Christ.

[256] That's how I would fight.

[257] That's good.

[258] Look at the guy laughing.

[259] Look at the dude.

[260] The dude who's the traitor is laughing.

[261] Oh my God.

[262] That's it.

[263] That's like, these kids are going to war.

[264] He's like, get up.

[265] Was he taunting up?

[266] Oh, my God.

[267] Get the fuck up.

[268] Look at that.

[269] Get the fuck up again.

[270] One more time.

[271] White helmets's fucking laying in work.

[272] Oh, white helmets's got some moves.

[273] He's got some moves.

[274] I like that spin that he does.

[275] Boom.

[276] He's got some talent.

[277] And he's shorter.

[278] Look at that guy.

[279] White helmet's my guy.

[280] Whoa!

[281] Look at it.

[282] That's perfect.

[283] It's a good time to learn because you can't hurt each other.

[284] And so you get accustomed to getting hit.

[285] Because as you get older and bigger and stronger and faster, it's scarier so you're hesitant and you don't learn as well.

[286] No. You don't take in a lot when you're older and you're stuck in your ways.

[287] and you're, I'm slower.

[288] I feel like I'm slower, but I have dad strength now.

[289] I feel the dad strength is real with the children.

[290] I have three kids now, and I'm just like...

[291] Well, if your kid's five, it's real.

[292] Yeah.

[293] They're little tiny people.

[294] And you've got to grab them, and Mac is a thick boy, and I got to grab him.

[295] He's like, I call him a stack of pancakes.

[296] He's got a big butt, too.

[297] And I grab him, and I'm like, what the fuck?

[298] Because he gets all ramped up, you know, and I got to pick him up, shaking like a bag of potatoes or something.

[299] Do you make him fight around drunk people?

[300] No, no, I don't, we keep everyone.

[301] No, I don't, I hate drunk people now.

[302] just like you're sober I'm sobs yeah when did you get sober Joe Joe Joe Joe when did I get sober this not a great question guys like you November 12 have a wonderful just this year no no 2000 what's like nine years ago um 2002 2000 9 years ago is 2012 I knew there was a two big JR with the mathematics let's go excuse me 12 yeah I'm like Two, nine years ago, you're like, two thousand, nineteen ninety seven.

[303] I'm living in the past.

[304] Yeah, no, like nine years ago, I had an intervention to stop the brutality that I was putting on to myself.

[305] What were you doing?

[306] What was your drug of choice?

[307] My drug, cocaine.

[308] I just wanted, I wanted everything.

[309] I was a garbage head.

[310] I would do MDMA.

[311] I would do shrooms.

[312] I would do acid.

[313] I would do it all at once.

[314] I would, yeah.

[315] Whiskey, a lot of whiskey.

[316] Make me thirsty.

[317] I could chug a 26 of whiskey in like two poles.

[318] Really?

[319] Oh, yeah.

[320] That's not a smart thing to do, though, right?

[321] We could agree.

[322] No, no, no. You drank, the second one isn't smart at like 7 a .m. But the first one at like midnight, when you do like 10, like you would drink.

[323] At the end, my drink of choice.

[324] So my drink of choice was a pint glass.

[325] So a 16 ounce pint full of ice filled with vodka and three limes.

[326] So then I would drink, though.

[327] until I was feeling like swirly real swirly so I drank like you know six seven eight of those then I'd be like let's have a beer crack a beer and I drink like fucking a lot of those and then I'd get into the whiskey and then but on the second vodka I'd probably do a couple bumpers and then I just start bumping and then I'm baged in and then I'm deep in the bag you're Hunter S Thompson you were doing I would want to not I would want to feel like my bones were out side of my body and I was like my I was like two people I was like my skin and the muscles and then the bones were over here and I was like buddy let's do a bump and then you're talking to your buddy and it's just your bones it's your skeleton so I would want to do everything I I'd want because I started early like I wanted the first time I did I started like early 12 yeah like grade eight was the first time I did acid whoa which is scary and my parents like uh what is that 13 Yeah, like 12, 13 13.

[328] So like I drank, the first drink I ever had, the first alcoholic beverage I ever had was Southern Comfort.

[329] And me and my friend Kylie got wasted in like grade 7 secretly.

[330] And then I started like smoking some smokes, stealing, you know, from the uncle's drawer, steal a pack of carton, a little carton of smokies.

[331] And then, you know, yeah, just worked my way up.

[332] Wow.

[333] Yeah, just work your way up.

[334] And every day?

[335] at the end yeah so like at the by the end of it you know like high school party boy you know like super party boy high school like you know uh fun fun my house was the hub my house was the hub my house was the hub my house was the open door policy in the neighborhood me and my brothers were like two years apart so we were like the full crew my older brother was a psychopath i was a psychopath my little brother was a psychopath so we're like the matheson brothers and so my house was and my parents are beautiful East Coast loving food on the table kind of family you know not like this like demonic psychotoxic shit we're a party to have everybody coming on our place was the place you know every Sunday there'd be you know football games on and barbecue and cooking and and but it would just be like you know everyone was there yeah and you know smoking weed and doing shrooms and acid and all that's fun stuff you know it's like the seven like days and confused you know And then Nine years ago in 2002 He decided He decided that's a wrap No So you know the journey The journey is so long You know Going to college Getting into like chef school Doing all that stuff Chef's party hard Chef's party hard I learned that from partying with Bourdain Yeah I bet He would go so hard Well it's just a maintenance thing and it's like a constant thing and it's just like you build it up and it's just part of the culture too well the thing about it Valhalla we want you to take care of you we want you to be in heaven we want you to our idea of hospitality is that you are 100 % taken care of we're feeding you grapes we're shoving meat into you we're shoving you know meat inside of you we're doing everything drink drink grapes the fallace you know whatever you need and and I think like that's the and you get caught up you do you really get caught it because it's every day where some most people go out and have a Saturday night on Saturday night we have Saturday night every night so it is one of those things where you can get lost you can get lost and you can get stuck into it you can get fucking you become kind of the the thing the monster a bit you know and And I am so obsessed with everybody having a good time, but sometimes my idea of what a good time is wasn't really the good time.

[336] You know, and I was so young, like when I opened my first restaurant, I was 26 when I opened my first restaurant.

[337] And in 27, when I opened my second one, so when we opened up parts in labor, it was crazy.

[338] Parts of labor was a giant old warehouse, big 14 -person tables, like a hall.

[339] And we would, it was insane.

[340] People like food reviewers didn't know what was happening because we were young, we were cool, we played really loud music, and we served really good food.

[341] And people just didn't know, you know, it's like one of those things where you like, and it was in a part of town that wasn't really built up yet.

[342] And it was just like, it was chaos.

[343] And, and my partners were chaos.

[344] And we all loved partying.

[345] And we all were like riding this wave.

[346] And the wave, sometimes you get fucking.

[347] barreled and I think it's this like but you keep going and you know and it is that pressure of making the best food that you can having the best experience for those people that are coming into your restaurant and at the same time party excuse me what's happening over there I'm getting like mucus from the coffee the coffee's like rattled my mucuses was it like were you wrapped up in the party because everyone's having a good time and you want to have a good time too was it a I was the last guy at the party kind of thing, you know, where it was just like, after about two years at parts in labor, it kind of died, the hype died down, and it was, you know, it was just kind of one of those things where it's just like every day we partied.

[348] It wasn't like, it was, and on the days off, all of our staff would party together.

[349] And, and it was just like one of those things.

[350] So at 29, I'm 39 now.

[351] So at 29, I had a heart attack, right?

[352] So I had a heart attack after about a three -day binge, no sleep, big fucking work, you know, just like 15 years.

[353] My whole life of being a maniac, being a psychopath, being like, I'll do anything on the table.

[354] Whatever's on the table, I'll do it.

[355] No problem.

[356] No questions asked.

[357] No, like, demons even.

[358] I just want to have, like literally, I just wanted to fucking get so fucked up.

[359] And I didn't even know why I wanted to get so fucked up.

[360] And then the heart attack happened.

[361] And it was like a crazy kind of moment.

[362] That was like a crazy thing because it happened like in my sleep.

[363] And I woke up.

[364] So it was like after I crashed after three days.

[365] So I'm at home and I wake up at like five in the morning.

[366] And it's after like a Saturday night shift.

[367] And I was like, I'm done.

[368] I haven't slept in three days.

[369] I'm just going to fucking bed.

[370] See ya.

[371] And I go home.

[372] And I wake up at like.

[373] 530 in the morning and I'm a big dude so I used to do this thing like if I was partying like really hard and I get like palpitations I would do this thing where I'm like doing like almost like jumping jacks and I would like cough out the palpitations that I would feel and I thought that was doing well I don't know if you do that when you're working out you feel your heart rate getting to where you feel like your heart's gonna explode but I used to do this like jumping jack thing and I'd be like at a party just shoveling cocaine in my face and I was gonna be like ha ha ha and like doing this thing and I was like what's he doing and I'm like I'm at the level now now I'm at like the good pace and uh like a fucking goddamn cheetah and and then I you know and then I woke up and I was like I think I'm going to have a heart attack what was it feeling like okay it was like an uncompromising vice grip on my heart so it was like this thing that was getting tighter and it wouldn't stop.

[374] If I moved or anything and I would stand up and I was like stretching and I was doing all these things.

[375] I was just, it's just clenching and it's getting tighter and it and it hurts like something I've never.

[376] And I'm like third degree burns, cut my tendons off, break my shit.

[377] Like I understand I'm covered in tattoos.

[378] I understand pain.

[379] I understand levels of pain.

[380] I understand, you know, all that kind of shit.

[381] And I was like, this is something I've never felt before.

[382] and this is something that I'm like I know my palpitations I know like you know like Coke boy fucking psycho shit and I'm just like this is not that this is like and I was like Trish take me to the hospital and Trish is like okay yeah it's go time and I'm like it's happening it's like we're having a kid I was like you got your your drug addict boyfriend like overnight hospital bag let's go like did she anticipate that this was eventually going to take place I don't know if you asked her maybe we were I was so in it take me to the hospital hospital.

[383] Like if I said to my wife, taking you to the hospital, she'd be like, why?

[384] Yeah.

[385] I would have to explain.

[386] I think I'm having a heart attack.

[387] She's going to like, what the fuck are you talking about?

[388] Exactly.

[389] I wore my drug use on my sleeves.

[390] So she was like, this is not outside of what's possible, let's go.

[391] She's like, you stupid piece of shit, let's go.

[392] Hospital.

[393] Don't die.

[394] Don't die.

[395] We're like three blocks away from the hospital, though, which is lucky.

[396] Shout to St. Joe's.

[397] So I go to the hospital and when they take your blood, so I walk in and they're like, into The ER, I think I'm going to have a heart attack.

[398] And they're like, what?

[399] What's happening?

[400] Okay, do you do this?

[401] Do you do this?

[402] And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[403] Let's go.

[404] Let's go.

[405] I'm having a heart attack here.

[406] And they fucking, so they take your bloods, your enzymes change.

[407] And they find broken glass.

[408] They're like, there's broken glass.

[409] There's elastic bands.

[410] There's fucking, there's tampons.

[411] There's tampons.

[412] They're like, there's just a million little Ziploc bags inside of me. You know, I'm like the ocean.

[413] I'm the ocean.

[414] There's that much plastic inside of me. And, and, um, And they're like, you had a heart attack four hours ago.

[415] And I was like, yeah!

[416] And I was kind of like, sick.

[417] Okay, so I had a heart attack four hours ago and I'm still alive.

[418] So I'm good?

[419] And they're like, no, you're not good.

[420] And I was like, okay, so what do we do?

[421] And they're like, we're going to bring you to the ER and we're going to lay you down in a bed and you're going to calm down.

[422] I was like, okay, can I call my parents?

[423] And they're like, okay, call your parents.

[424] And I like went outside, like, how to smoke, you know?

[425] Of course you did.

[426] Yeah, like, I'm just like, I'm going to have a fucking smoke.

[427] go outside in the parking lot.

[428] I'm like, hey, mom, dad, I don't want to stress you guys out, but I think I had a heart attack.

[429] The doctor says I had a heart attack four hours ago.

[430] I'm walking around right now, so I feel pretty cool.

[431] But I feel relief, you know?

[432] What exactly is a heart attack?

[433] Like, what happens?

[434] So I had one of my valves just, like, closed up.

[435] Like, it's a matter?

[436] Literally, yeah, it's seized up.

[437] And, yeah, just seized up.

[438] You know what I know about heart attacks?

[439] What do you know?

[440] Richard Pryor.

[441] explaining about his heart attack during one of his specials?

[442] Oh my God That's literally about what I know about heart attacks That's it prior Him going He went thinking about that shit And you eat that port Yeah Well that's a thing I don't remember No I'm old I'm young I know prior Not that bit though Yeah well It's a good bit It's a classic bit Yeah I'd see it So what do they do When you go in for a heart attack Do they give you liquids In an IV form Yeah All of a sudden, I get laced up.

[443] I get, like, laced up.

[444] I get covered.

[445] I get all the patches on me. I get the IV.

[446] I get the thing.

[447] I'm in the hospital bed.

[448] Things start mellowing out.

[449] Things start clicking and really kind of settling.

[450] My adrenaline is going down.

[451] I start, you know, getting sad, start thinking about life.

[452] I put on my headphones, put on explosions in the sky.

[453] And I'm just like, it's Friday night lights in my head.

[454] And I'm just like, start crying.

[455] And then not a big crier.

[456] I'm not a crier.

[457] But in that moment, I didn't cry Like when my children were born I didn't cry I feel like I'm still There's too many broken pieces up there Do you have a heart attack song that brings you back To the moment when you had a heart attack?

[458] Maybe it just like explosions in the sky Just like Friday night lights The beginning of Friday night lights If I watch it Yeah If I watch Friday night lights for some reason It like triggers and I'm just like It makes me just want to party really It makes me Hard attacks make me think of audio slave For some reason Chris Cornell I would think like I am the highway You know that song?

[459] I am the highway highway I don't know I'm just expressing myself Jamie I don't have any understand I don't know why the fuck I think like this did he have a heart attack how to Chris Corny he's suicide suicide yeah it's sad it is sad the ultimate yeah super sad it's sad but the so we're in the bed we're in the bed you're all covered in it in electrodes and shit then I get up to my room and they're like you have to stay in the hospital for until your enzymes flip your cells or whatever flip back your white cells or whatever yeah could take five to ten days um i'm like okay cool whatever uh because in canada once again shout out to canada the one really cool thing health care so it's just like i'm in the hospital for end up like seven days and i get a i get a bill for six dollars because i had my A phone in my room.

[460] So I had like a phone, a live whatever, a fucking old school phone.

[461] And so I had to pay for the phone line.

[462] Wow.

[463] Yeah.

[464] They don't cover that.

[465] That's pretty tight.

[466] Yeah.

[467] That's nice.

[468] And so I'm in the hospital, hooked up to everything.

[469] The got to take my blood every two hours, 24 hours a day.

[470] And I'm fucking fat, covered in tattoos.

[471] So they have to find a vein.

[472] Yeah.

[473] It takes for, I'm getting, it's fucking, it sucks.

[474] But I get out.

[475] and, you know, I got to think about a lot of things.

[476] You know, I got to think about what I'm going to do.

[477] I got to think about who I am.

[478] I got to think about the scariest thing is, like, one of the scariest things is your identity.

[479] My identity was if you came to Toronto, you were going to come to parts and labor and party with me. If you were a chef, if you were like, you know, a cool celebrity, if you were like a thing, you would come to parts and labor and, like, party, you know, kind of thing.

[480] And I was so fixated on this, like, persona, this thing that I'm like this party boy.

[481] And it was really scared because I was like, am I really that, you know?

[482] Or am I really this genuine, like, am I this sweet little boy still?

[483] Like, am I this monster that I've kind of created?

[484] How do I get back to like this place of like sanity?

[485] How do I get back to this place of just realness?

[486] Like where I can be me people.

[487] like the fear of people not liking you is pretty heavy with most people you know and all of a sudden I was just like no one's going to like me no one's it's going to affect my restaurants it's going to affect my business it's going to affect my my contract with with fucking vice because I at the my very first thing I did with vice was a show called hangover cures where I would take a chef and get them as fucked up as possible then the next day that chef would have to cook me a hangover cure and so it was just like at the very beginning I was so afraid that it was my whole identity was drugs alcohol it was me and to separate that and to do the work and to get into fucking all the shit was very scary because it didn't even i didn't even get sober for two years after that wow so or a year after how long after the heart attack do you start partying again three it took about three months for me to like spruce my goose up enough to get nuts and that is the turning point when i i where i truly believe that i that i believe that turned into like a fucking full -blooded like addict because then all of a sudden I had an out you know I had a safe out you know I had the story I had the love of all my friends we're like Maddie we're with you you know so much beautiful support from all of my my crews deep and I was just like so much good love for my friends and then all of a sudden I started hiding going to different places different bars different little drug homes I like to call them you know A little -trap house.

[488] Yeah, little places.

[489] Little, little critter little homes.

[490] Is that a trap house?

[491] Trap house where you dance?

[492] Trap house.

[493] What happens in the trap house?

[494] Fuck chicks?

[495] Trap -it.

[496] What happens in trap houses?

[497] You can say it.

[498] The drug business happens.

[499] The business happens.

[500] And then you go to the other house to use it usually.

[501] Oh, okay, because you don't get high at the trap house.

[502] Just business.

[503] A, never get high on your own supply.

[504] Damn crack.

[505] Shut to biggie.

[506] The, um, you know, I think that's when I really was getting fucking crazy.

[507] And that's when I started turning, like...

[508] Less fun and more of an addict.

[509] Yeah, I got very violent.

[510] Really?

[511] Yeah, like, I got banned from our own nightclub.

[512] I got banned from like, you know, I got walked in on and I was trying to like rob pretty much this drug dealer.

[513] I was like, I swung on, like, I would be blackout drunk trying to fight my friends and, like, being like, You can't stop.

[514] Like, because people would try to stop me. They would, like, I would walk into a bar and, like, because I'm in the hospitality group.

[515] Like, you know, I'm in the crew.

[516] So it's just imagine, imagine, like, being a comedian and somebody gets almost like blacklisted, but we still love you.

[517] But you can't show up here.

[518] But we love you.

[519] You can do your comedy, like, buy yourself out in your car, but you can't come in here.

[520] Right?

[521] And I'm just like, well, I want to still go into the bar.

[522] I go to the bar every day.

[523] The bar is my, that's my safe place.

[524] You know, I want to go.

[525] go into the bar like let me in and everyone's like you're not dying here you're not dying at my fucking bar so then i had to start going to these like deeper darker places and push myself and and and before when i used to do drugs i never had to say fuck it in your head you know when you're about to jump and you got to be like fuck it let's go you know so those moments when you often have to be like you have to push yourself i was doing that with drugs where i'd be like i know now i know that I could die.

[526] Before my ego was like, you'll never die, Maddie.

[527] You're the fucking man. But now all of a sudden, my ego is a little bit shook.

[528] But my ego still is like, fuck you.

[529] You're going to keep doing this.

[530] And so I had to keep doing it, and I had to keep saying, fuck you to myself.

[531] So every time that I started doing drugs, I would be like, fuck it, let's go.

[532] And then that was the moment when I was just like, that's when shit got dark.

[533] And so there was like a year of that.

[534] And then my last time I ever drank, the last time I ever did any, like fucking anything was, you know, nine years ago, the weekend of November, whatever, 12th.

[535] And my friend was visiting from England, a chef, and we were doing a big dinner.

[536] And I got so fucking drunk.

[537] And I brought, I walked in Friday service, mid -service, didn't even show up for work.

[538] I took the chef out and was just like, you know, didn't tell anybody.

[539] I'm just like bringing my buddy around town, being a host.

[540] And I show up in all the partners were sitting at one of the chef's tables.

[541] So there was like in the big kitchen at parts in this warehouse, there was like three chef tables.

[542] So the VIPs, the homies, all the people got to sit in the chef tables.

[543] And all the partners were sitting there.

[544] And I walked in and they're like, what's up?

[545] You don't have to show up for work, bro?

[546] You get to do whatever you want to do kind of thing, like, what the fuck?

[547] and I was just like what the fuck do you want and I was just like what do you want your restaurant's packed this fucking look at this and I walked out into the middle of the dining room and I was like hey everybody who the fuck is having the best time ever and everyone was like and I looked at all the partners and I was like fuck you this is my crew this is my fucking world that didn't go well ego I was It's such a psychopathic young psycho.

[548] Well, those two things, booze and coke.

[549] I mean, they are the accentuators.

[550] I got a little peepee.

[551] I got a little peepee.

[552] I got to make it up somewhere, you know?

[553] Like, it's so hard to, you know, fill the void, you know.

[554] And I just, I found that with that.

[555] And then, you know, the next day, one of my partners was like, hey, let's meet for coffee.

[556] I want to fire you to your face.

[557] And I was just like, okay, yeah, fire me. You can't, like, I was just like, what are you going to do with your restaurant, bro?

[558] What are you going to do with all your restaurants?

[559] I'm the face of your company.

[560] I'm the guy.

[561] And I showed up.

[562] And he was like, meet me here.

[563] I'll pick you up.

[564] We're going to go for a coffee.

[565] I was like, okay, let's meet up.

[566] And I knew that I could manipulate and talk to him and, you know, be like, we're cool.

[567] You know, I won't do it again.

[568] Addict shit.

[569] Yeah.

[570] Addic shit.

[571] Yeah, just manipulate.

[572] Manipulate, manipulate, manipulate.

[573] And fucking.

[574] and he drives me and it's like oh my god he pulls up to like my homie's house who's like straight edge vegan warrior oh boy and I'm just like oh perfect and then like four of my dudes come out and I'm just like okay let's see what you fucking losers got to say you know let's hear what all my best friends got to say about me how much you love me and how much you care about me let's see what you fucking like losers got to say you know like instantly go going into like hating these people that are trying to like help me. And, you know, the veils that can come, when you sit down in front of your best friends, your true inner circle, the people you can't lie to, the people that you can't, there's no facade, there's no media, there's no nothing, it's you and your friends.

[575] And I sat down and I listened for like four hours.

[576] And, you know, in the next day, one of the guys there goes to me. meetings and he's like we're going to a meeting and so the next day i walked into a meeting and um you know the miracle happened and i a meeting yeah what what made you hit the switch you go from is everybody having a good fucking time to all right i'm done yeah because i think the lying within that four year four hour period that transitional period i that was my out i could stop lying because I was lying the lying is what really broke me about whether or not you were using where I was going where I was going the people I was hanging out with lying to Trish another thing I've been with Trish for like 21 years you know she's a fucking saint she's a hard -bodied Italian Irish woman she's fucking you know three home births she doesn't fuck around yikes she's she's fucking real deal bruh I'll birth the child right now who Jamie you got a baby in there let's go I'll birth you so the fucking I was like why isn't Tricia here and she's like she's out it's up to you she's got nothing left to say she's out it's up to you now and I was just like huh I don't like that and even now like I feel I can trigger that feeling of this is real this is it this is a time where I can stop this is a time where I can, I don't, I can stop, okay, I accept, you know, I accept that I'm, I, I, I, I have a, a chance and not ever having to lie.

[577] I have a chance, I don't have to do that again, you know, and, uh, you know, and then, and then a lot of hard work, a lot of years, a lot of listening, a lot of taking suggestions and doing things that other people say and listening, you know, a lot of suggestions were crucial the way I was living my life was not the way I should live my life the insanity doing things repeatedly thinking there's going to be a different outcome yeah insanity it's just amazing that you went from fuck everybody to one meeting and you're like okay yeah and that was it no more drinking no more drugs no no relapses that's it that's it that's incredible so you just you hit the shift I hit the shift you So you kind of knew you were going to have to get off the ride eventually.

[578] Well, yeah, because the thing is, is I'm not, I'm more good than bad in the ego, in the, you know.

[579] Yes.

[580] I'm more aware than unaware.

[581] I'm not a fucking idiot.

[582] Right.

[583] I have a nice life.

[584] I love my parents.

[585] I love my family.

[586] I love myself.

[587] Yeah.

[588] You know, I have a lot of things to live for.

[589] And, you know, that was the thing where I was just like, am I going to be?

[590] Be, you know, a loser.

[591] Right.

[592] Am I going to be, am I going to not have a job?

[593] Am I not going to, like, I don't come from money.

[594] Am I, I'm not going to be taking care.

[595] There's no one to take care of me. Right.

[596] I need to like figure my shit out.

[597] That was, that was a good run.

[598] You know, I was, I was, I was, high school, college, fucking, my entire career, everything I wanted to do.

[599] Perfect.

[600] I got to do everything my way and it ended up here.

[601] Almost dead, friendless, jobless, fucking, from the most popular cool dude, you know, in my head.

[602] To an almost dead guy.

[603] To an almost dead guy that nobody actually really liked anymore, too.

[604] Because you're so off the rails.

[605] Because I saw, you know, I wouldn't shower.

[606] I was a psychopath.

[607] We're the same clothes every day.

[608] Just like, ah, like maniac.

[609] So it was just like, nobody wants to be around that guy.

[610] So how did you deal with the shift in your identity?

[611] Because that's an issue for a lot of people.

[612] When they stop doing something, it's a big issue for fighter.

[613] When fighters retire from the sport, their identity is wrapped up in fight.

[614] That's why so many fighters make ill -advised comebacks later in their life.

[615] What did you do about your identity?

[616] Like, how did you release this hold that you had on this idea that you're this party animal?

[617] And that that was why you were, that was part of who you were.

[618] Well, I think the thing that helped me truly was shifting from a chef.

[619] It was at that perfect moment, shifting from one career to another.

[620] I was a chef I was a chef I was I only cared about chefs I didn't care about TV fuck you fuck anybody on TV Bourdain's you know cool but fuck everybody you know like I was like the punk chef guy where I was just like being on TV is for cooks like oh yeah you're gonna be on fucking food network go fuck yourself right you fucking losers you sell out yeah fucking yeah that whole thing and then and then vice at the exact same moment was doing a lot of food content And so was I. And so all of a sudden, that was that thing where all of a sudden I could leave that chef persona behind.

[621] All of a sudden, I'm just in front of a camera.

[622] And all of a sudden, the feelings I was getting wasn't from real people.

[623] It was actually from, like, you know, comments and being like, oh, people fuck with me. I can make content and people, it makes people happy.

[624] It fucks, you know, people fuck with what I'm doing.

[625] Yeah.

[626] And all of a sudden, I was just like, that.

[627] really helped me just be able to be myself.

[628] I took myself out of, I made a lot of different rules even where I wouldn't be in the restaurant past 10 o 'clock.

[629] So I would never even finish service.

[630] So service would finish at 11, but it was triggering for me for the first year.

[631] So like I would...

[632] Because that's when everybody partied.

[633] Well, at clean, like, okay, you know, we're last hour, big push.

[634] We're going fucking down.

[635] Let's fucking amp it up.

[636] Big, like, finish fucking strong shit.

[637] And then we scrubbed And as soon as we scrubbed down, everyone gets a beer.

[638] Saturday night, I would buy whatever, cocaine for everybody, whoever wants it.

[639] Here's cocaine, here's beers, let's go fucking party, boys, you know?

[640] And, you know, all of a sudden, I didn't have a crew.

[641] So did the other people stop partying as well?

[642] A lot of my cooks did.

[643] There was really, there was a lot of, at the beginning, there was a lot of solidarity.

[644] Oh, that's cool.

[645] And it was an interesting thing because all.

[646] Also, I'm kind of that last of this, like, you know, bro chef shit, like psychopathic dudes that, like, I'm like, I was tattooed because I was punk, not because I was a chef.

[647] You know, I didn't, all of a sudden there's, like, all these, like, cool chef bros, but I was like, I was like a hard -bodied, like, French trained chef.

[648] And fucking, you know, now everyone's running and jogging and running, I don't think people like saying jogging.

[649] But, you know, everyone's like being, like, active and eating well and doing meditation.

[650] And all this stuff.

[651] So I was like, my crew was like a transitional time too, right?

[652] Within the last 10 years, within the last, you know, seven to five years was a big transition.

[653] And just the mentality of chefs to be like, instead of like eating chocolate bars and smoking cigarettes and getting drunk and fucked up every day, we're going to meditate, jog or run and work out and be peaceful and like talk about like different books that help us and check in on each other.

[654] and all of a sudden there was like this big transition with me and our team and all that kind of stuff too even more so now it's a full like thing across our whole company about all that kind of stuff but you know there was like it was one of those things where we were just like it was kind of like maybe they're hiding it from me but there was definitely like we wouldn't drink at work anymore you know like nobody would drink online uh nobody out of respect for you yeah like it was like a thing like we got you chef that's nice yeah like it well it's like that thing where it's just like, you know, maybe they were doing all the drugs and party to, like, people please me. You know, maybe they didn't want to go as hard as, I was pushing everyone to be like, let's fucking go.

[655] We cook hard, we fucking show up for work, and we fucking party until 6 a .m. And then we're at work by 11 a .m. You know, like, that's not a sustainable anything.

[656] No. That's not sustainable.

[657] And I did that every day, you know, like, I did that, you know, five, six days a week for 15 years.

[658] You know, like, I went to bed at my bedtime, like, when Trish would start blowing.

[659] blowing my phone up was like 601.

[660] So like my bed, like I had to be home by six because then she would be like, okay, now you're getting like crispy, you know, from that 6 a .m. to like 8 a .m. is when you're like calling the drug dealer for the 15th time.

[661] And you're doing like the crispy shit then.

[662] So like my bedtime was like 6 a .m. So then I'd go home, sleep from 6 to like 10 .30 and then go to work.

[663] Four hours?

[664] Yeah, bro.

[665] Just a fucking rhino.

[666] That alone gave you a heart attack.

[667] Yeah, I guess so.

[668] Drink a lot of water, though.

[669] Well, that's good.

[670] Fucking shout out to water.

[671] Yeah, shout out to water.

[672] I like how that cancels things out.

[673] I drink water.

[674] Yay.

[675] But yeah, like, it is.

[676] As I asked him earlier, do you take vitamins?

[677] He's like, no, I trick a lot of water, though.

[678] One booger a day.

[679] One booger a day, just to make sure the immune system.

[680] Yeah, the immune system's rocking.

[681] So one booger a day.

[682] And then just fucking 16 liters of H2O.

[683] Well, it's good to drink water.

[684] I agree with that.

[685] We can find common ground.

[686] That's our common ground drinking water.

[687] Yeah, water's good for you.

[688] I like that, Joe.

[689] I think you need more than four hours sleep, but that's just my personal opinion.

[690] Well, now I go to bed at 9 .30 and wake up at like six.

[691] Oh, well, that's great.

[692] Yeah.

[693] Oh, that's really good.

[694] I'm like a 930, 10 o 'clock latest guy.

[695] Wow.

[696] So you're getting a solid, you know, nine -ish, eight and a half?

[697] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[698] Tuck in.

[699] I got my sleep apnea mask.

[700] Oh, yeah.

[701] Do you have the CPAP machine?

[702] Yeah, I got a CPAP machine, but then I don't use it half the time.

[703] It's too gnarly.

[704] I get up to pee like five times a night.

[705] because I'm such a great water drinker.

[706] So then, you know, yeah, putting the machine back on at, like, 4 a .m., it's not good.

[707] Yeah.

[708] But I sleep good.

[709] I sleep good.

[710] I'm happy, you know, Joe.

[711] This is a heavy story, man. It's a lot.

[712] But I love the fact that you realized, like, when your friends were all, like, you were like, fuck, what the fuck are you going to say?

[713] And then you're like, oh, I really, that is really it.

[714] Well, it says, like, you take the, you put so many veils on.

[715] You lie.

[716] You lie.

[717] You cheat.

[718] You fucking do everything.

[719] that you need to do to get whatever you need because you want it.

[720] I deserve it.

[721] Because the void filling.

[722] Yeah.

[723] You know, I need it.

[724] I deserve it.

[725] Fuck the world.

[726] Why do, why does he have that?

[727] I want that.

[728] Fuck.

[729] I'm not even going to do anything.

[730] I'm just going to go do coke with somebody I don't know for six hours.

[731] You know, like it's just like, what is that?

[732] And then when you're with your real friends and they're really being sweet and they're telling you like the real shit and you just take off the facade and you take off the facade.

[733] And then eventually you're like, there you are.

[734] there you are Peter you know Hook the movie Robin Williams great film and they're like there you are Peter But yeah I mean like people are fucking messy man It messy to be a person and you can get wrapped up in that kind of party in Yeah you know especially if you're involved in something like you were involved with where You are entertaining That's part of what you're doing is like you're the beast and then I became the gesture You know and then you become like that's the thing is like the party's over and you become become the fool you know and it's like that's the thing is like now I just want to have a thing like I just want my life to be normal yeah you know I just want to have my I want to go to work Monday to Friday I want to have weekends with my family and that's it you know like I want to because you got the best of both worlds like you had the experiences that you could talk about and you have these you have the chaos and your past oh but yet you still are having a good time best time yeah I get the best time This is like, and that's the thing is like, my identity is now I am me, you know?

[735] And it's like I finally get to just be.

[736] Be yourself.

[737] Be myself.

[738] And I'm like, I'm a weird, loudmouth kind of fucking spas.

[739] Yeah.

[740] And it's just like, you know, I got mad ADD and I just want to fucking like grab you.

[741] And like, I really want to feel your muscles right now.

[742] That's all I'm thinking about really.

[743] I want to be like, I want to feel his traps or his biceps.

[744] I want to just grab it and like, but that's my head.

[745] Right.

[746] And then I'm like talking about this vulnerable bullshit.

[747] And I'm just like, I'm going to grab his bicept in like two more hours.

[748] But it's just like, I think, you know, but I get to be me. I get to get a DM from you being like, hey, come on the show.

[749] And I'm like, what world am I living in?

[750] You know?

[751] And I'm just like, I'm like, still my brain is like, I live on a farm in Ridgeway, Ontario.

[752] You know?

[753] I'm like, I'm out here with my kids.

[754] And it's like, I'm so disconnected actually from, you know.

[755] Should we say how you do it, how you get over here?

[756] Or should we not say that?

[757] Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, everything is cool.

[758] No, no, no, no, everything's cool.

[759] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[760] You can talk about it.

[761] Because Canada's fucked right now.

[762] Canada's juiced.

[763] They're so locked down, and I don't understand why they think that's good.

[764] I don't understand why they think that's the solution.

[765] Yeah.

[766] You know, I mean, we're dealing with an American weird spots, right?

[767] Like, America has states, and each state has a different approach.

[768] And Florida's got one approach, and California has another.

[769] Opposite size of the country.

[770] Like, literally polar opposite side.

[771] of the ideologies.

[772] And Florida's doing fucking way better.

[773] I was just in Florida, and it's like nothing's happening.

[774] Like, maybe you'll get sick, maybe you won't.

[775] But we're out here with no masks on.

[776] 15 ,000 people in a fucking arena for the UFC fights.

[777] It was madness.

[778] It was powerful.

[779] It was really good.

[780] But I'm like, hey, guys, take your vitamin D, sleep, drink water.

[781] Let's go.

[782] Let's go.

[783] You can't do Canada.

[784] You can't do what you're doing where you have fucking Gestapo pulling people over for your papers.

[785] Why are you out?

[786] Why are you out of the house?

[787] doing a lot of...

[788] There's a cold floating around.

[789] Why are you out of the house?

[790] There is a lot of, you know...

[791] Overreaction?

[792] There's a lot of overreaction.

[793] There's a government, like, you know, shout out to Doug Ford.

[794] You're a piece of shit, you know?

[795] He's the brother of the guy that died, the coke guy.

[796] He was my favorite.

[797] Dude, he was my hero.

[798] I was like, that's the...

[799] There's so many people.

[800] Rob, Rob Ford.

[801] You know, rest of peace, baby.

[802] Dude, Rob Ford, but it's just like, that's the guy I'm like, that's the guy I wanted to party with.

[803] I was like, I want to party with that guy.

[804] I want to do crap.

[805] And, like, smoke crack with that guy.

[806] Yeah.

[807] Remember when he was coked up talking about how he was like Mike Tyson and he'd knock a motherfucker out?

[808] I was like, that is such coke talk.

[809] He has, he didn't even have big forearms.

[810] He couldn't knock anybody out.

[811] He was just like a big jelly bean.

[812] Or is it?

[813] Or is it?

[814] What is it?

[815] What is it?

[816] I think more shoulders.

[817] More shoulder than forearm?

[818] Yeah.

[819] Tommy Herons had big shoulders.

[820] He didn't really have big forearms.

[821] Well, they were farms are relatively large.

[822] I'm getting hot, Joe.

[823] I'm getting hot.

[824] Show that shirt, bro.

[825] Powerful Truth Angels.

[826] I mean, I just.

[827] pencil drawing one pencil i guarantee you someone listening to this show is going to create you some fine art that will represent this podcast when did you start the podcast um you got the ac the uh the uh big dog sweating well this coffee this what is it what's it what's it black rifle black rifle coffee this thing is fucking this thing is fucking rinkled that's making my foreskin fucking wrinkle up Evan hayfer and Matt best hey god bless the um yeah the podcast we started the podcast me in two tone I don't know, like two years ago?

[828] How often you're doing the YouTube shows?

[829] Okay, so the YouTube shows are great.

[830] We're doing, I have like three different little studios now.

[831] And I'm doing, when I get back from this trip, I'm going to start doing a weekly, a new cooking show.

[832] And just a dash is like, I've only made like 24 episodes.

[833] That's expensive.

[834] You know, I pay all my dudes, like, well, and that is expensive to do just a dash.

[835] We're trying to figure out some funding.

[836] What's the difference between?

[837] I don't know what the names of any of my.

[838] I just find you and then I watch your videos.

[839] That's good.

[840] That's okay.

[841] I love watching cooking videos as weird as that sounds.

[842] I don't like cooking television shows for the most part.

[843] Other than Bordane.

[844] I really got into him with Bordane and I'm like, okay, no, I don't really like cooking shows.

[845] But Bordane, he was a human person.

[846] He was a human person.

[847] He's like, I don't care where you come from, what your story is, fucking tell me. He was, uh, yeah.

[848] He was people's people's.

[849] He was a very unusual dude.

[850] I really enjoyed hanging out with him.

[851] I can imagine.

[852] I was so afraid of meeting him.

[853] Me too.

[854] I was, and I never did.

[855] And I'm happy that I, because I was so, you never met him?

[856] I never met him.

[857] And I even, anytime he came to Toronto, I would make sure that I didn't go.

[858] Because, I don't know.

[859] I was just, I was like, I'm going to fucking ruin it.

[860] Yeah.

[861] I'm going to walk up there and be like, hey, Tony, let's do a bag of.

[862] You know, I wouldn't have done the thing that he makes fun of.

[863] Exactly.

[864] Because I was too young and too fucking psycho.

[865] And too intermeaning him.

[866] Yeah.

[867] Where I was just like, I can't meet him because I'll fucking kook it.

[868] Yeah, I was, I got super, like, starstruck when I met him.

[869] Don't have a few people that have met.

[870] Not that often.

[871] You're star struck right now.

[872] Occasionally, occasionally, like, if I meet a rock star, like, when I met Stephen Tyler, I was like, I can't believe that's really him.

[873] David Lee Roth weirded me out.

[874] I was like, this is really daily rock.

[875] That's him, his face.

[876] But he's so fucking cool.

[877] He's so easy to hang with.

[878] You know, David Lee Roth doesn't even have a phone.

[879] He has a lady that is, like, his handler, and you have to contact.

[880] the lady and the lady will drop Dave off and she will say let me know if there's anything wrong or it's like a baby it's crazy like Dave did I don't even know if you had a wallet I paid for dinner I don't know if he had a wallet he just he just there's no way hangs he doesn't he just hangs and he's that's a good vibe though but he's the nicest most easy going he's always laughing yeah I was like because when I was a kid my sister's boyfriend had a Van Halen license plate right it was like V -H -N -H -H -L -E -L -L or something like that like we were Van Halen fanatics in high school so for you know from running with the devil to like all the sudden I'm hanging out with David Lee Roth like dude it's just it was too strange there's some gods it's very strange but meeting Bourdain was an odd one and then becoming his friend was an odd one and like text each I text him about stuff and ask him questions like if I was going to a plague I went to Japan yeah yeah I was in Japan I was like where the best sushi places he gave me like some suggest he would always give me like detailed suggestions of where to go and this is the spot and go there and yeah and I ate with him a gang at times because his ex -wife was a UFC fanatic and so I met him at the UFC Vegas she was jujitsu too right yeah Tavia she's she's a beast she's really talented um you know just really cool period but so she was really into the UFC and then he got really into the UFC too and so he started coming to some of the UFCs came to some of my comedy shows we hung out we came buddies I did his television show and then you know where did you do is which We went pheasant hunting in Montana.

[881] That's nice.

[882] And that's when I realized how hard he goes.

[883] Yeah.

[884] Because we were out there in the middle of the woods camping.

[885] And this motherfucker was just pounding.

[886] I brought a vape pet.

[887] We were getting blasted on weed.

[888] And he just kept drinking, kept going.

[889] I'm like, you can drink it forever.

[890] Like, that's the thing is I could drink forever.

[891] Yeah.

[892] I could drink, like, forever, you know, just days.

[893] Like, not stopping.

[894] And I think it's just like that's the thing is you just, you can't stop because then that's when the machine breaks.

[895] down you know well that is the thing about alcohol too right you got to keep it lubed well no the alcohol and benzos and alcohol the only thing that really or one of the rare things really kill you if you jump off them that's what they say about Amy Winehouse right right she died from withdrawals yeah yeah this is benzodiazepines and and alcohol apparently the most common for people to die from withdrawal like heroin apparently just makes you really sick it feels like shit but it doesn't kill you No, it's when you stop.

[896] Or it doesn't always kill you.

[897] Yeah, like, that's the thing.

[898] It's so scary.

[899] And that's the thing, too.

[900] I think most people, like, if I do stop, there's repercussions, too.

[901] So what happened when you did stop?

[902] Nothing.

[903] Killed it.

[904] Yeah.

[905] I wasn't doing opiates.

[906] I wasn't doing anything.

[907] Yeah, but alcohol.

[908] But alcohol alone.

[909] I just, I don't know.

[910] I didn't really.

[911] Did you get the DTs?

[912] No. I was just kind of like, I'm like a fucking giant baby moose.

[913] You know?

[914] Like, I was just like, I was just like, I was just like, I. I'm like, I don't know.

[915] I broke my foot literally in like four places like six weeks ago.

[916] And I'm just, I had a cast on and everything.

[917] I'm walking around like a fucking freak.

[918] And I'm just like, I don't know.

[919] It's like one of those things.

[920] I feel like I heal differently or something.

[921] Like I just, I'm just like.

[922] Maybe if you lost weight, you'd be a real athlete.

[923] Well, if I, let me tell you something, Joe.

[924] Tell me something, please.

[925] Let me tell you something about losing weight, my big man. Okay.

[926] One day I'm going to get there.

[927] Why don't you go with action Bronson?

[928] You know, well, Bronson is such a. He impressed the fuck out of me. He did it He did the damn thing He lost 1 30 so far And he's going to keep going Of course Well now he's going to tune Now he's going to tune Now that's the thing is like It's so sweet Truly Like he gave me a call We've had our differences Over the years and stuff like that And then he gave me You're squabbled We had like small squabbles We had some squabs But I think it was just like You know Too many cooks in the kitchen With Vice And I think it was just like There was a lot of different little things, you know?

[929] And, but he gave me a shout, and I was watch, like, it was crazy.

[930] Like, he started popping up, and I was just like, he's doing it.

[931] And I was just like, he's fucking doing it.

[932] And I think it's like, you know, it's very.

[933] Like, I even hit him up, like, when his book came out, I, like, hit him up.

[934] And I was just like, hey, man, like, we have the same publisher, too.

[935] And I was just like, congratulations on Publication Day, like, you know, third book, big one.

[936] And this one's, like, meaningful, you know?

[937] Sure, your other books are, but I was like, this one's, like, a. real one, you know?

[938] And, you know, it's just very inspiring.

[939] But I think the thing, so this is addict brain, ego.

[940] Now, during the pandemic, I had to figure out how to take care of my family.

[941] So I've been trying to figure out, and these are excuses, how to figure out how to truly take care of my family.

[942] Because when the pandemic hit, I was only playing defense with my work.

[943] I was flying around the world, just getting checks, collecting checks.

[944] Maddie Madison, come here to Australia.

[945] Mani Madison, come here.

[946] Come here.

[947] Come here.

[948] Come here.

[949] Pandemic hit.

[950] I had, you know, six months of booked out travel, paid, fucking dialed, like here's my year, half a year, gone instantly.

[951] Then lost, you know, a lot of stuff.

[952] I had to, and then I was just like, wait, I'm a fucking tool.

[953] I'm a gadget.

[954] There's no way that this is fucking going down like this.

[955] So I had to figure out how to make my own money.

[956] And so then that's when I transitioned back into restaurants.

[957] So with Maker Pizza, I was just a consultant.

[958] Now I'm a partner, but for the last five years, I was just a consultant.

[959] So I was like, I don't even have a fucking restaurant.

[960] I'm this chef traveling around the world being a chef.

[961] I'm not a chef.

[962] A chef isn't a fucking MD.

[963] You're not a fucking doctor.

[964] A chef is a person that trains other cooks how to fucking cook.

[965] If you're in front of your team, you're a chef.

[966] If you walk outside, I don't believe you.

[967] Like, you're not a chef, you're just a person.

[968] You know, chefs aren't these fucking monolithic things.

[969] You have to be in action.

[970] Yeah, I strongly believe that.

[971] Like, if you were in a kitchen, you're a chef.

[972] If you are leading a team, teaching them how to cut better, sharpen their knives, cut vegetables, take care of things, build stocks, build dishes, understand the ergonomics of a dish, then you're a chef.

[973] But I was just like, I'm not anything now because I'm only as good as my last paycheck.

[974] So I'm just like, there's no more paychecks.

[975] So I had to, was like, you know, I had some restaurant partners.

[976] And I was like, we're going to activate.

[977] We're going to build out some things.

[978] We're going to build out some concepts.

[979] We're going to start doing some shit.

[980] And we went into action and we started doing those things.

[981] And it's taken up a lot of time and a lot of mental capacity.

[982] And I believe after this footbreaking that I truly, I have this gym that I built in my barn.

[983] And it's a great gym.

[984] I got the TRX, I got squat racks, I got the kettle bells, I got the fucking balls, I got the fucking bands, I got all this shit in my barn.

[985] And, you know, I just got out of my boot like two weeks ago, and my main concern shortly is going to be that next level.

[986] Because it's just like right now, I had to figure out, you know, I'm not the rock.

[987] You know, 5 a .m. wake up.

[988] I got my reg.

[989] To build a new routine that I've never had a routine.

[990] I've been a fat kind of kid.

[991] my whole life.

[992] You know, I played sports in high school, fucking lacrosse and shit.

[993] But it was like never like, I was never like an athlete athlete.

[994] You know, I was always like a fatter.

[995] I was like the fat brother.

[996] My brother, abs, big dick.

[997] Way to go, Steve.

[998] My younger brother, like bigger than me, fucking massive, strong motherfucker, 20 ,000 steps a day, psychopath, concrete backpack, walking around the fucking neighborhood like a psychopath.

[999] My brother's fucking ripped.

[1000] Me?

[1001] I was always the fat kid.

[1002] So I always have that ego too where I fucking fuck them.

[1003] They just, they're DNA is better than mine.

[1004] So I fought with, you know, being the fat kid, fought with being this, you know, whatever, just being this shape, you know.

[1005] And now I've built to a level where I feel comfortable with my team that I can start focusing my energy and time more on, you know, my physical self, which will help my mental self, which will now help everything else.

[1006] So I think I think I'm trying to, like, build my own Swiss clock of my Maddie world, and right now I had to set up a financial foundation of businesses, which I have, and now I'm going, and I have my home with my family taken care of, and now I can kind of start tending to Maddie a little bit.

[1007] Does that make sense?

[1008] Yes.

[1009] Long journey of words to get until you're going to lose weight.

[1010] Yeah, Joe.

[1011] I get it.

[1012] I get it.

[1013] You know, I've never worked out a day in my, like, look at this pumps.

[1014] I got pump up.

[1015] ups.

[1016] You want to arm wrestle?

[1017] What do you, like, what do you, I think I need to, you know, Joe, I would like to lose weight.

[1018] But I also think it's like, fuck, I know that my cardiologist, my cardiologist, I don't have high blood pressure, I don't have high cholesterol.

[1019] That's amazing.

[1020] It's incredible.

[1021] I don't understand it.

[1022] And my cardiologist was like, I'm the best cardiologist in the country.

[1023] You don't need me. Yeah, but it's Canada.

[1024] Yeah, okay.

[1025] What does it mean?

[1026] They're fucking brilliant.

[1027] They get paid slave labor.

[1028] No, they get paid hundreds of millions.

[1029] You get paid loonies.

[1030] They get hundreds of millions of loonies.

[1031] She definitely has a range rover.

[1032] She's doing fine.

[1033] You know?

[1034] Yeah, dude, when I, it was so funny.

[1035] The thing about health care in America versus Canada, perfect example.

[1036] I break my foot in L .A. I break my foot in L .A. I break three metatarsals on the top of my foot.

[1037] How'd you break it?

[1038] Slipped off a curb.

[1039] And I like, my foot got stuck.

[1040] almost like on the curb and I like the way that I compressed or fell it like snapped the three metatarsus so it's like because in LA the curbs are high because of the water like in Canada our curbs are shorter so my my my my my agility my my agility we have great drainage sandy soil and my my my my I was like literally it was a stupidest thing I fell down like a baby I was like a turtle laying in the middle of fucking Melrose I was like Melrose and Myrtle and I was like at my homie.

[1041] You do not want to be hurt on Melrose these days either.

[1042] It's like a Mad Max movie.

[1043] Dude, it's crazy out there right now.

[1044] Isn't it weird?

[1045] Dude.

[1046] I did a photo show.

[1047] I'm doing this thing and I had to do a photo shirt.

[1048] They wanted to do it just on Hollywood Boulevard.

[1049] And I was just like, yeah, let's go.

[1050] Let's do it.

[1051] And it was like.

[1052] You might as well be on Skid Row.

[1053] Yeah.

[1054] It's there, but it's, fuck, whatever.

[1055] So you broke your foot.

[1056] So I broke my foot, Joe.

[1057] So all this gym that you have set up, you have used it, but you set it up.

[1058] It's the beef barn.

[1059] Eventually, it's the beef barn.

[1060] Are you going to get a trainer?

[1061] That's what you should do.

[1062] So I have some, I have so many beautiful people around me, so many knowledgeable people around me. And that's the thing, I'm friends with, like, because of, like, Pat from, like, Ruka and, like, I have access to so many amazing athletes now that, like, they're all, like, let us know, anytime.

[1063] And, you know, I just got to, I got to mentally get to that place.

[1064] Just do it.

[1065] Listen, there's all this jabber, jabber, jabber.

[1066] Jabber and too much about it.

[1067] I know this is the same thing.

[1068] I said it was excuses, Joe.

[1069] I know.

[1070] I know.

[1071] You did say it.

[1072] I said it.

[1073] I'll excuse you all day.

[1074] I know you will.

[1075] I think we could help you.

[1076] I think we can make this push happen.

[1077] Okay.

[1078] You're going to produce.

[1079] I want to do a movie.

[1080] No. Okay.

[1081] I'm busy.

[1082] I'm busy.

[1083] I'm not producing any movies.

[1084] Don't produce a movie.

[1085] I'm not doing shit.

[1086] I'm just going to do work.

[1087] Anytime anybody says, I want to do something with you.

[1088] No. I'm not doing shit.

[1089] Hunt.

[1090] Anything more than I'm already doing What I'm doing is exactly what I'm doing I have three jobs I don't need any more things Three jobs is a lot.

[1091] That's a lot of stuff It's a lot of stuff One of them is pretty easy Yeah, you know Which one's the easy one?

[1092] UFC UFC's the easy one That's pretty easy because I just have to watch fights Is there any kind of like The prep or like you know everybody Watching fights There's too many fighters now I can't know everybody So what I do is leading up to fights now I'll watch everybody that's all on the card, I'll watch some event they've been in and something that they're really good at.

[1093] So you have something to talk about?

[1094] Yeah.

[1095] The kicks or their punches or something.

[1096] I want to be able to watch, like maybe they have a tendency, maybe they have something that they're really good at and something.

[1097] Like some guys like Alexi Oli Nick, he's like a really good grappler, but not the best striker, like more plotting.

[1098] Right.

[1099] So you see, oh, he's fighting this guy who gets very light on his feet.

[1100] It's going to be a problem.

[1101] And I sort of piece together what I think would be like situations that could possibly occur in a fight and what to look for.

[1102] And that UFC that just happened, special UFC, right?

[1103] Am I crazy?

[1104] Was that like just a special UFC?

[1105] It was special in every way.

[1106] It was special in that it had been a year since we had a full crowd.

[1107] And so literally the first fight, these two girls were getting ready to walk to the octagon.

[1108] The lights went down.

[1109] And it was probably only like 25 % capacity at that time.

[1110] They hadn't all showed up yet because it was early.

[1111] It was like the first fight was like 6 p .m. as soon as the lights went down everybody went fucking madhouse just yeah I took my headphones off and I looked around and we were like whoa and me and John Annick and Daniel Cormier are looking at each other like boys this is crazy and we took a photo there's a photo that's on my Instagram of John Annick Megan O 'Levy me and Daniel Cormier right before the fight started we were so happy we're like beaming It was just like it felt so great Because we had been calling fights over the past year But we had been doing it with no audience at the Apex Center Like there We were so happy there Like look at Megan Look at that smile We were so happy It's just you know That's the pay -per -view crew And we also we could do this We could hug each other And when we did the pre -fight stuff We're talking about the bouts that are coming up We're standing next to each other Because before at the APEC Center We were like separated and I couldn't interview the fighters inside the octagon.

[1112] It was all so weird.

[1113] So you go from that to Florida.

[1114] Florida's like, COVID is a rumor.

[1115] COVID's a rumor.

[1116] Right, right.

[1117] They're like, yeah.

[1118] It is what it is.

[1119] They'll figure it out.

[1120] But I think their approach is healthier than California that acts like it's a demon and you have to be protected by the governor.

[1121] Right.

[1122] You know, like in this fucking guy who doesn't protect himself, doesn't even follow the rules, the guy who gets busted eating at the French laundry, indoors you know and lies about we were outdoors with the Teddy Cruz motherfucker going to Mexico little Cancun brah yeah but that's not that bad yeah that guy was just trying to get away because the fucking state was frozen yeah like I get it maybe he should suffer with everybody else you should have suffered a little bit but that's not as bad yeah that's not as bad as telling people not to eat outside or not to eat indoors and you eat indoors wear a mask in between bites of food he was telling people do that So, it's like, California's approach is way worse than Florida's approach, and Florida's approach is way better than Canada's approach, too.

[1123] Canada's approach is ridiculous.

[1124] They're arresting people for going to church.

[1125] They're 200 cops showing up.

[1126] That thing was crazy.

[1127] That's insane.

[1128] It is, like, it's so sad because there's just, like, what do we do?

[1129] Like, we're, it's so tough, because we are, like, we want to take care of our staff at our businesses, and we want to, like, no one goes into our buildings.

[1130] like no one like we all wear our masks we do everything that we can do and it's just like for how long and for how long do we have to do this for if you're a government then show us the real plan of getting to a place that's not what they're there for yeah they've never been there for telling you whether or not you can work you know why because they don't lose any money that money keeps going that doesn't have any effect on them whatsoever it doesn't have any effect on them whatsoever if everyone's out of work.

[1131] If everyone's business crumples, they get the exact same amount in their paycheck.

[1132] That's what's happening in California.

[1133] Right.

[1134] You know, and this is like the difference between, unfortunately, because I'm liberal, but this is a difference between the way Republican states handle things versus Democrat states.

[1135] Democrat states are just lock everyone down.

[1136] We have to protect you.

[1137] You can't go anywhere.

[1138] You can't open up.

[1139] You can't do this.

[1140] And Florida was the most reasonable, believe it or not.

[1141] This is how you know the world we're living in the upside down where everybody's like, Florida is great.

[1142] Florida's the best.

[1143] They killed it.

[1144] Everyone should just do what Florida's doing then.

[1145] That's rock.

[1146] Florida was a joke.

[1147] Florida was a choke just two years ago.

[1148] Nobody wanted to be in Florida.

[1149] You know, I just don't want to, it's one of those things.

[1150] I'm still such a, like, you know, I do want to just do the nicest thing.

[1151] Like, in my mind, I'm like, well, what's the easiest nicest thing?

[1152] And I just want to, like, if we're just going to wear masks, then wear masks.

[1153] I don't know.

[1154] Like, that's the thing is, like, I am a little bit just like, I want to make sure people are safe.

[1155] Locking down, I don't think locking down does anything.

[1156] It's worse.

[1157] It makes things worse.

[1158] You know why?

[1159] Because people go inside.

[1160] They go inside.

[1161] They're trapped inside and that's where it spreads.

[1162] That's not good for people.

[1163] And I just don't think it's good for humans.

[1164] It's not good for your mental health and that's not good.

[1165] That's not good for immune system.

[1166] And, you know, again, there's no fucking instruction on telling people how to get healthier because that's what's significant.

[1167] The only thing they've done is giving us a fucking mask.

[1168] So if all we've given a mask is I'm like, it's one of those things where it's just like if you go, out of your house then, the variable is there.

[1169] It doesn't matter how many interactions or how many things, if you've chosen to leave your house and leave a quarantine situation, then that's your decision to fucking rock.

[1170] And I just think it's just like, the thing about it is, is we just don't, it's still so early and it's so stupid and it's fucked up and it's like...

[1171] You've got to give people personal freedom.

[1172] You can't take that away from them.

[1173] Because then you're not you're not what we signed up for.

[1174] What we signed up is elected officials who represent the people.

[1175] You're not supposed to run the people and tell the people they can't work.

[1176] And if you're saying you're doing it to protect them, and it turns out not only does it not protect them, but it's less effective than letting them be free and you don't course correct and you don't adjust, then you're a piece of shit and we have to take you out of office.

[1177] That's what's happening in California.

[1178] That's why they're recalling the governor in California.

[1179] Are they getting them out of there?

[1180] They're recalling them.

[1181] Get them out of there.

[1182] There's another election.

[1183] He'll probably wind up winning People are eating inside again now?

[1184] They are now because he's being recalled.

[1185] He opened everything up.

[1186] He's like, he lists it.

[1187] He's like, everybody wants it, let's go.

[1188] They're not showing the COVID science anymore.

[1189] They're not showing the numbers anymore because the numbers wouldn't be enough to indicate that they should open everything back up again.

[1190] But when the governor's getting recalled, he's got to turn the fucking economy around.

[1191] That's when things change.

[1192] I just don't understand them, man. I don't understand them because it doesn't make sense.

[1193] What was the tipping point for you to be like, I'm moving my family.

[1194] Like, I'm moving the thing.

[1195] I saw where it was going.

[1196] Yeah.

[1197] I was like, they're telling us, first of all, they told us we're going to lock down for two weeks.

[1198] And I'm like, well, that's really reasonable.

[1199] Everybody will stay home for two weeks.

[1200] Right.

[1201] But then after two weeks, it's like, we're going to keep going.

[1202] And then it kept going.

[1203] It just kept going.

[1204] And nothing ever opened.

[1205] And then they were saying, you can't go outside without a mask, which didn't make any sense.

[1206] Because ultraviolet rays kill COVID.

[1207] Right.

[1208] Like, it doesn't make any sense.

[1209] You shouldn't be able to run outside without a mask on.

[1210] Like, you're, you're treating.

[1211] it like it's a demon you're not treated like it's a virus right and then it's just I saw how other states were handling it I'm like well they're much more reasonable they believe in personal freedom and they also take into account the fact that people have businesses you can't just let people's business go under because you tell them they can't work you got to give people the option people need to decide for themselves and then once we got the numbers in in terms of like what the disease was actually doing right unfortunately Maddie 78 % of the people that are in the hospital from COVID are overweight.

[1212] That's the number one thing.

[1213] The number one morbidity factor is obesity.

[1214] It's number one.

[1215] They don't say shit about that because they don't want a fat change.

[1216] Isn't everybody obese?

[1217] No, not everyone.

[1218] Oh.

[1219] There's a lot of people that are not obese.

[1220] Okay.

[1221] The other, you know, 30%.

[1222] Yeah.

[1223] Okay.

[1224] Well, 30 %.

[1225] It's 20%.

[1226] 20 %.

[1227] 28%.

[1228] It's not a lot of people telling people to lose weight and be healthy, but they are telling you to stay home and be scared and be scared thing is not good the internet's not good the fucking doom scrolling's not good the mental health is a real like the sadness the cloud of sadness oh my god the suicides the cloud of sadness is not great and it and it's not yeah there's a lot of and there's a lot of despair we're not unprecedented times we're just in unprecedented times we're in unprecedented times and there's a bunch of different ways to handle it but the thing that drives me crazy and that drove me crazy and got me out of California, as I was looking at the way some states were handling it.

[1229] And I was like, that makes more sense.

[1230] And I was looking at how California was handling it the way you want to live.

[1231] Well, they were doing it in a more effective way because their case numbers were lower, but they had more freedom and the economies were way better in those states.

[1232] So even though people were catching COVID everywhere, every fucking state had COVID, right?

[1233] In the states where they were open, the businesses were staying open.

[1234] And there wasn't a significant difference in terms of like these states, the businesses are open, but look, way more people are dying.

[1235] That wasn't the case.

[1236] Yeah, yeah.

[1237] In fact, Florida has less deaths.

[1238] Let's go Florida.

[1239] They have less deaths.

[1240] They have less COVID, and they have more old people.

[1241] It doesn't make any sense.

[1242] If you look at it statistically, but they have hot weather and they have sun.

[1243] And so they're outside.

[1244] They've got the UV.

[1245] And it's better for you for vitamin D as well.

[1246] There you go.

[1247] Vitamin D is important.

[1248] It's fucking huge.

[1249] It's a hormone, man. I love it.

[1250] It's huge.

[1251] I like sun tanning.

[1252] Well, that's guaranteed.

[1253] That's good for you.

[1254] Do you like sun tanning?

[1255] Do you sun tanning?

[1256] Do you sun tanning?

[1257] I go outside.

[1258] You go outside.

[1259] You go outside.

[1260] Sun tanning's like jogging, I feel.

[1261] If I lay down, I'm sleeping.

[1262] Yeah.

[1263] You only lay down when you sleep.

[1264] Yeah.

[1265] Go from there.

[1266] I'm just like, that's it.

[1267] Oh my God.

[1268] The good thing is I can sleep anywhere.

[1269] I can sleep on a moving train.

[1270] I'll just lie down and I pass out.

[1271] I can fall asleep instantly anywhere, but maybe that's just because of the gravity pulling my soul.

[1272] The, um...

[1273] But I'm saying I don't suntan, no. No. No. sun tan when I garden.

[1274] If I go to the, like, if I'm on vacation, I'm at the beach, I'll have a couple of margaritas.

[1275] Where is Joe vacation?

[1276] I enjoy Hawaii.

[1277] That's my favorite place.

[1278] Which island?

[1279] I like all of them, but I like Lanai because no one's there.

[1280] Right.

[1281] And you can bow hunt at night.

[1282] So you know what we do?

[1283] Night vision?

[1284] No, no, not at night in the afternoon.

[1285] Okay.

[1286] Because it's windier then.

[1287] It's easier because you're sneaking up on these Axis deer, which are very wily.

[1288] They ruffle your noise.

[1289] Yes.

[1290] Yes.

[1291] Axis deer are super fucking tuned in because they evolved to get away from tigers.

[1292] Yes.

[1293] They're the fastest deer I've ever seen in my life.

[1294] The Axis dears is the ones where you went hunting with the man -eater guy or the meat -eater?

[1295] No, no, no, no. That's Steve Ronella.

[1296] Yeah, I didn't go hunting for Axis deer with him.

[1297] No?

[1298] No, I've been hunting with him before for white -tailed deer.

[1299] Okay.

[1300] Where was one when you were in like a mountain range?

[1301] Like a little mountain, like a hilly kind of almost looked like deserty.

[1302] Oh, that was Nevada.

[1303] Nevada.

[1304] Yeah, we were in Nevada.

[1305] But was not Axis deer or am I crazy?

[1306] No, no, that was mule deer.

[1307] Mule deer.

[1308] Yeah.

[1309] Axis deer are, there's, they're roaming around Texas, the ones that didn't die from the freeze off.

[1310] Right.

[1311] Like, I know a guy whose friend owns a ranch and he had 2 ,000 Axis deer freeze to death.

[1312] Wow.

[1313] It just stacks of deer.

[1314] 2 ,000.

[1315] That's like a concert full of deer.

[1316] Yeah.

[1317] That's a big, that's a lot of dead deer.

[1318] You just put that in a freezer and then you butcher them up?

[1319] I don't know how they handled it.

[1320] I imagine they did that.

[1321] I would hope so, too, because Axis deer are really delicious.

[1322] I bet.

[1323] But anyway, Lanai's great because we would go and you could stay at the four season.

[1324] seasons and then in the late afternoon you go on bow hunt we just do it in the morning but the thing about it in the morning is like it's so quiet in the morning it's it's hard you yeah i've been successful in the morning i bet you're stealthy yeah you have to be take your shoes off you take your shoes off how nice is the first time i went to i went to awahu the the grass on the feet was so nice it is nice and um the i i still want to do uh some wild boar hunting there i really want to do wild boar hunting here's the spot right here all son texas john hessy that dude who was here earlier yeah yeah john hensy was telling me that between houston and i forget what other spot it's apparently like this insane wild boar area where they mostly hunt them uh night with night vision goggles and rifles dude i remember my dad had a fucking VHS tape called ferocious tuskers and it was a it was a bowing knife wild boar hunting video.

[1325] Oh, so the dogs, so the dogs bite them.

[1326] And, like, they would, like, climb into, like, their burrows or whatever, their dens or whatever.

[1327] And it was this, like, it was so scary.

[1328] And it was, like, there's, like, a bunch of, like, little freaks running around.

[1329] But it was, like, a VHS tape that we used to watch.

[1330] It was, like, the wildest thing.

[1331] But I think, like, the, man, cooking that, I cooked a wild boar over some coals for a bunch of surfers.

[1332] And it was, like, incredible.

[1333] Like, cooking right on the, like, pipeline.

[1334] We should do something.

[1335] We'll film something like that for your show.

[1336] I don't do stuff.

[1337] I don't do stuff.

[1338] I'm busy.

[1339] I have six jobs.

[1340] I have six jobs.

[1341] That's what you just said.

[1342] What do you mean?

[1343] You just asked me to do something?

[1344] For your show.

[1345] Okay.

[1346] I said for your show.

[1347] Okay, for my show.

[1348] That's what I said.

[1349] Okay.

[1350] I thought you wanted to, you were picking me a new show.

[1351] I think he said for our show.

[1352] No, no, no, for your show.

[1353] Joe and Maddie.

[1354] No, you have a cooking show?

[1355] Yeah.

[1356] Well, how about we get a wild boar and cook it for your show?

[1357] That's all I'm saying.

[1358] Okay.

[1359] You got so agro on me. Well, no, because I asked you about the movie and then you came at me, Joe.

[1360] I don't even think you asked me about a movie.

[1361] I think you talked to me about a movie and I said, I say, no, not a movie like a mini -series, like transitional, me doing like different martial arts.

[1362] And then I lose weight.

[1363] It's like a, you know, a documentary on me becoming whatever.

[1364] Who cares?

[1365] Just work in silence.

[1366] Just work in silence.

[1367] Get up early, set the alarm, write down a list of things that you do.

[1368] Burpees.

[1369] I hate burpees.

[1370] You don't have to do those.

[1371] I don't want to do burpees.

[1372] You don't have to do those.

[1373] I like doing Bulgarian split squats.

[1374] I'm a Bulgarian split guy guy.

[1375] Okay.

[1376] I like doing deadlifts.

[1377] I like doing a lot of towel work with grip strength.

[1378] Okay.

[1379] I like doing, I'm like a, I have a good friend.

[1380] Shout to Ben.

[1381] Do so.

[1382] He does a lot of like breath work and like resistance training and just like holds and stuff like that.

[1383] Like really intense buddy stuff.

[1384] You know, if you just do like some cardio with a movie on, here's the thing, man. I got a Peloton.

[1385] I bought the Peloton.

[1386] Palatons are great.

[1387] They're great.

[1388] Can I get another one?

[1389] Those are so good.

[1390] They used to be a sponsor back in the day.

[1391] They used to be.

[1392] That's about the old studio.

[1393] Wow.

[1394] The thing about Pelotons is so great is you're going along with people.

[1395] Like you're watching a video and you're going along with actual people.

[1396] Yeah, they're just talking about like X -Y stuff.

[1397] It's incredible.

[1398] Well, they're fucking getting after it and you're getting after it with them and you get carried up in the momentum.

[1399] Super effective.

[1400] I was eating a pizza watching my roommate do it.

[1401] You can't.

[1402] That doesn't help.

[1403] But one thing that does help is watch a movie and get on like an elliptical and just put a movie on.

[1404] Just put a movie on a predator?

[1405] Yeah.

[1406] Put a movie on that's enjoyable.

[1407] Crank it up loud, so you hear it over the sound of your voice.

[1408] You just get on an elliptical and watch the movie.

[1409] It's a great way.

[1410] The elliptical is great, right?

[1411] Fuck, yeah.

[1412] I love the elliptical.

[1413] It's a so low impact.

[1414] I love an assault bike.

[1415] Yeah.

[1416] Love an assault bike.

[1417] I love a salt bike.

[1418] But the salt bikes are not casual, and they're really loud.

[1419] It's hard to watch movies.

[1420] I like 30 seconds.

[1421] Oh, bursts?

[1422] Yeah.

[1423] I do bursts.

[1424] Yeah, I do tabatas.

[1425] See, I've started and stopped.

[1426] I would say truly, like, four times.

[1427] So maybe it's like the attic thing.

[1428] Like, you just need to just decide.

[1429] No, I think.

[1430] I honestly.

[1431] honestly, I'm mentally getting there where I got the, I'm like, there's no other excuses now.

[1432] The thing about it is you can talk about it to the end of time and that's what people love to do.

[1433] You just have to do it.

[1434] The only difference between doing it and not doing it is doing it, Joe.

[1435] Holy shit, that should be on a fortune cooking.

[1436] It's a, it's a good saying.

[1437] That's a being a meme.

[1438] It's a meme thing.

[1439] On someone's a meme page.

[1440] Do you have a meme page?

[1441] I bet there's a Joe Rogan Me page.

[1442] There's all the page.

[1443] How many different pages are there for Joe?

[1444] There's a lot of fake ones.

[1445] I'm not like fake losers But I'm just saying that like just for activity It's when you watch a movie With an electrical machine or something like that It's like it's not even happening No, you're just there In the movie and you're doing Just walking 40 minutes of exercise Walking's great Walking's great Breathing Movies getting jazzed up Sometimes you get excited about Like if you watch John Wick That's my favorite to watch He's breaking arms He's the new Steven Seagull right He's shooting people more He's more shooting people Yeah he does break a few arms I like I love a Stephen Seagull arm break, like an elbow break or like he's always just snap it.

[1446] Yeah, like that shit's the best.

[1447] Oh, dude, above the law.

[1448] That's still a great fucking movie.

[1449] Go back and watch Above the law.

[1450] Is that the way where Sharon Stone was in it?

[1451] Hot as the sun?

[1452] Back in the early days of Sharon Stone.

[1453] Wasn't she in that?

[1454] What was the movie?

[1455] What was the movie where she moved her legs?

[1456] Wasn't Sharon Stone in that?

[1457] Sharon Stone's still so hot.

[1458] Pam Greer?

[1459] Is it above the law?

[1460] But Sharon Stone was in one of those movies.

[1461] She was in one of the early Stephen Seagal.

[1462] movies and she was Mark for Death Perfect film Hot is the sun This early day Like a hot sweet Chili Heat Cheeto Wasn't it Sharon Stone Because she was a small character Yeah Stephen Sagar was the shit And she was the She was a new one She was just his Hot, hot And in Hollywood New to Hollywood There she is Oh Back in the Dizzy son He's out there Doing Aikido And she's looking spicy She's looking spicy Is he's looking spicy Is he real?

[1463] He's very good at Akito.

[1464] He's very good at Akito.

[1465] Not a lot of Akito going on nowadays?

[1466] Listen, Akito is good if no one knows anything.

[1467] Right.

[1468] The other guy doesn't know shit and you know Akito, it's good.

[1469] Yeah.

[1470] But the reality of Akito is it's designed to disarm someone with a sword.

[1471] It was an art for, like when you're a samurai.

[1472] Right.

[1473] And the sand like this.

[1474] Let's see your samurai.

[1475] This is me a Motto Musashi.

[1476] Motto Musashi.

[1477] He's a face.

[1478] famous Japanese samurai from the 1400s.

[1479] Okay.

[1480] He killed 62 men in one -on -one combat.

[1481] Yeah.

[1482] And he wrote a book called Go Rindosho, the Book of Five Rings.

[1483] Wow.

[1484] And it's all about strategy.

[1485] And I read it when I was a kid.

[1486] Yeah.

[1487] I was obsessed with this guy when I was a kid, because when I was fighting, I was always looking for something to give me some sort of a psychological edge.

[1488] Right.

[1489] And his book was all the book on.

[1490] I was like, who better to teach you about psychology of fighting that again?

[1491] a guy who beat 60 men in fucking sword fights and wrote about it.

[1492] Those were strong swords.

[1493] Well, he wrote about it in a really fascinating way.

[1494] His approach was that in order to be a great sword fighter, in order to be a great samurai, you have to be balanced.

[1495] You have to be an artist.

[1496] You have to be great at calligraphy.

[1497] You have to get at poetry.

[1498] You have to have all your shit together.

[1499] You can't be all ego.

[1500] The five ranks.

[1501] Yeah.

[1502] His thing was, and this is one thing that he said.

[1503] said that I always bring up that applies to everything I think in life once you understand the way broadly you see it in all things right and he felt like doing all those things in some way it was like cross training for life yeah like doing art and swordsmanship and and learning I love that all these different things yeah so it wasn't like you would think you just got to be the meanest fastest baddest motherfucker right that's he beat all these people his approach was not like that you need to know how to like trim a tree or grow a flower You had to be in control of your ego.

[1504] You had to be artistic, and you had to be in control of you in all ways, not just in the hard way, but in the soft way.

[1505] You had to be able to be outside of yourself.

[1506] That's incredible.

[1507] Yeah, so that was, that's my dog.

[1508] Yeah, that's a good dog to have.

[1509] Well, I've always been obsessed by Japanese culture, period, but his, his book was just like a massive influence on me when I was a kid.

[1510] What did I bring that up?

[1511] What was I talking about before?

[1512] above the law Steven Seagal from Steven Seagal to somebody who's killed 62 people Well Ikeido was designed for Like a samurai was in a sword fight Right And the sword would go flying And the guy was coming at you with a sword You had to be able to take his energy And use it against him That was the idea of Iquito Iquito is not really designed to be the best One -on -one fight style Like that's why the Japanese had karate And judo and jujitsu That was what they used all those arts for Aikido was pretty much specifically designed.

[1513] The art of taking away a weapon.

[1514] Yes, it was designed to disarm someone.

[1515] But Stephen Segal was a legit Akito master.

[1516] Like absolutely 100 % legit.

[1517] In fact, he was the first American to run a dojo in Japan.

[1518] Wow.

[1519] Speaks fluent Japanese.

[1520] And if you look at the, yeah, man. I didn't know that.

[1521] I think it's Michael Eisner or one of those guys, decided to make him a superstar and to put him into movies and make him a star.

[1522] Did he start, like, doing, like, the stunt stuff first?

[1523] No, he just did above the law.

[1524] Above the law was his first movie.

[1525] He came out of nowhere.

[1526] You ever see him run?

[1527] No. What do you mean?

[1528] The way he runs is the weird.

[1529] Does he have, like, little, he does, like, a thing?

[1530] He's the weirdest fucking run.

[1531] People make fun of his running.

[1532] It's a good running.

[1533] Well, he's a tall guy.

[1534] It's like a Will Ferrell could do a good running.

[1535] Oh, he's like, it looks like he's running.

[1536] Oh, fuck.

[1537] What's his arms doing?

[1538] I don't know.

[1539] Exactly.

[1540] What's happening?

[1541] Is that good for his arms?

[1542] Well, it's not the worst running, but there's something about the shortness of the movement.

[1543] But I think it's because he's so used to using his arms for Aikido.

[1544] He keeps them tight.

[1545] There's just a weirdness to the way he runs.

[1546] He looks like he's rowing.

[1547] Yeah, he does this.

[1548] Look, he does that.

[1549] He's doing Noonchucks.

[1550] But I think he's like revving up the end point.

[1551] There's a whole YouTube video.

[1552] It's like a speedwalker.

[1553] You're totally right.

[1554] He runs like a speedwalker.

[1555] Look at him running up the hill.

[1556] Dude, hiking?

[1557] Well, he's got little baby steps.

[1558] For a guy with such long legs, he takes a little baby steps.

[1559] A lot of little fast steps go.

[1560] Yes.

[1561] Yeah.

[1562] But as an Akito master, pull up video of him doing Akito in Japan in the 1980s.

[1563] Oh, my God.

[1564] Yeah.

[1565] What about like stick fighting and like that broo, like Jekundo stuff?

[1566] Eskima.

[1567] Kali.

[1568] Yeah, that's legit.

[1569] I mean, it's certainly there's certain.

[1570] Have you done any like weapon fighting stuff?

[1571] I've learned how to do it in classes of someone's talking.

[1572] me how to do like some sort of callie and a screen but not I'm you know I'm a white belt of that stuff I don't really know much about it and you are you're like with jujitsu you're like full black belt I have a black belt in ghi jujitsu and I have a black belt in no ghi jiu jutsu right I have a black belt in the ghee and Eddie Bravo with no guy okay cool I had a black belt in Taekwondo I took to that I took to that I was a kid I gave up it's good for kids like the little kids throwing kicks and punch together I want to get my kid into that I bought him like a punch ball like a a punch thing Mac loves it he puts the boxing gloves on okay 93 great here we go perfect so this is right before he became famous or it might have been like right around when he was and this is in Japan yes this is in Japan and I'm telling you dude if you watch any kind of like legitimate I keto demonstration he has as good as any you'll ever see he's absolutely legit I love it see the thing is like most of this shit is not gonna work in the real world right it looks like these look like those videos of those people just like doing the flip This isn't the best one.

[1573] There's some from his dojo.

[1574] This is just a demonstration.

[1575] These people are like five foot versus like a six five guy.

[1576] Well, it's, you know, traditionally Japanese folks are thought to be like a smaller stature.

[1577] Right.

[1578] Except for a few, there's a few odd guys that are really giant.

[1579] Right.

[1580] But he's just throwing this dude around, like clothes lining him and shit.

[1581] But I'm telling you, he's a legit Akito master.

[1582] Right, right.

[1583] And I mean, he's a silly man in a lot of ways.

[1584] Right.

[1585] A lot of his stuff is silly.

[1586] but when it goes to his...

[1587] Okay, here he is.

[1588] Now, this is him...

[1589] And that's his master?

[1590] This is him in his dojo in Japan.

[1591] See, he's significantly younger here.

[1592] This is all...

[1593] It looks like it's like the 1630s or something.

[1594] Well, someone probably fucked with it to try to make it look.

[1595] Look at that.

[1596] Like, all that shit.

[1597] This is all legit stuff.

[1598] He's like, come at me, come at me. Yeah, see?

[1599] Okay, so that's a thing.

[1600] That's a thing.

[1601] But see how he just did that?

[1602] The guy came out of with a knife and he disarmed him.

[1603] That is the whole purpose of Aikido, right?

[1604] Right, right there.

[1605] That was what Aikido was designed for.

[1606] And this is legit.

[1607] Like the way he's doing it, this is legit.

[1608] This is about as legit an application of Aikido as you'll ever going to see.

[1609] Because that is literally exactly what it's designed for.

[1610] And he is masterful at it.

[1611] What is the oldest martial art?

[1612] They don't really know.

[1613] Maybe Kung Fu, they don't really know.

[1614] You know, it's so hard to see because it's like, you know, there's some ancient drawings of people doing some sort of kicking and punching.

[1615] And China is probably the birthplace of most martial arts.

[1616] Because it's probably the oldest culture.

[1617] But Japan refined it.

[1618] Japan took, like, it goes to the levels.

[1619] And Japan with Jiu -Jitsu is maybe before Brazilian Jiu -Jitsu?

[1620] Yes, 100%.

[1621] No, no. Okay, so it did start in Japan.

[1622] Count Maeda came to Brazil in the early 1900s, and he taught Carlos and Ilio Gracie.

[1623] They took Jiu -Jitsu, they took Jiu -Jitsu and turned it to Brazilian Jiu -Jitsu.

[1624] They refined it.

[1625] and made it much more about leverage and much more about technique.

[1626] And they concentrated more in the ground.

[1627] Like Japanese jiu -jitsu has a lot of throws in it.

[1628] It's almost like it's like Niwaza from judo, which is like the ground fighting of judo.

[1629] Right, right.

[1630] But the Brazilians took jiu -jitsu to a whole new place.

[1631] And they completely changed the art form.

[1632] But they learned it from Japanese, from Count Maeda, and there's a guy named Kimura who came to Japan.

[1633] The Camara.

[1634] Yeah, it came from Japan.

[1635] And that's where it came from.

[1636] That submission came from him using that submission, Ilya, and breaking his arm.

[1637] Wow.

[1638] Yeah, you can watch the match.

[1639] It's a black and white match from the early 1900s.

[1640] Crazy.

[1641] Where Kimora, who was much bigger than Alio.

[1642] See, Ilya was a small guy.

[1643] He was like 147 pounds.

[1644] Okay.

[1645] And he was, you know, going against these guys that were like 200 pounds.

[1646] Wow.

[1647] And he had to use, like, leverage, and you had to wait until they get tired.

[1648] He would wear them out and then eventually catch them in submissions.

[1649] That was his thing.

[1650] That was his thing.

[1651] But it's like martial arts have gone through this crazy evolution.

[1652] And then Thailand, they had a totally different evolution.

[1653] Like, they figured out kicking the legs.

[1654] And they figured out a much more effective style of kickboxing.

[1655] And then they figured out a style where they gambled on it.

[1656] So they had all these people in the ring.

[1657] And then they had everyone around.

[1658] They would be like making bets.

[1659] Louis -Tai is banana town.

[1660] It's bananas, man. It's wild.

[1661] Carnage?

[1662] Do you know fucking carnage?

[1663] Oh, yeah.

[1664] Corbett.

[1665] Nathan Corbett.

[1666] Yeah.

[1667] So you can just say his nickname.

[1668] and I know him.

[1669] I'm just like carnage.

[1670] You know carnage, Nate?

[1671] Psychopath.

[1672] Making Corbett's a bad motherfucker.

[1673] Dude, I met him once again, like, through the Ruka dudes, and it's just like, like, watching his highlight reel.

[1674] Like, I'm sitting with this guy.

[1675] So, once again, I love that I don't really know too much so that you can meet people on these genuine kind of play, like, you know, these good starting grounds.

[1676] So I'm like, first time I went to Hawaii, I cooked for everybody for Ruka and surfers and MMA people and, like, all these people are there.

[1677] I'm like, I don't know who anybody is.

[1678] I don't know who Kelly Slater is.

[1679] I don't know who fucking...

[1680] Shout out to my boy, Kelly.

[1681] There you go.

[1682] Bring him to the ranch.

[1683] Get me on a 14.

[1684] I need a sup or something.

[1685] Bring me to the ranch, okay?

[1686] What ranch?

[1687] Doesn't he have the surf ranch?

[1688] Oh, okay.

[1689] Oh, any ranch.

[1690] I'll go to any ranch.

[1691] I thought we were back to the wild pigs.

[1692] Anyway, I'll bring the wild pig to the surf ranch.

[1693] Anyway, but I'm like sitting across, anyway, we're after, whatever, we're just literally just hanging out.

[1694] And I'm just like, like, what do you do?

[1695] And I'm just like, I love, because I was like, I love going to Australia.

[1696] I've been to Australia like seven times, got a big, you know, a good crew down there.

[1697] And he's just like, oh, man, he's like, I'm like a Muay Thai kickboxer.

[1698] I was like, oh, crazy.

[1699] I was like, oh, yeah, your face is kind of, okay.

[1700] Got some scars.

[1701] Yeah, I was just like, okay.

[1702] Nose is a little busted up.

[1703] And he was just like, yeah, check on my little highlight reel.

[1704] Yeah, he cuts a lot of guys up.

[1705] Brough, his elbows?

[1706] Oh, yeah, that was his famous for.

[1707] He fought in glory for a bit, but the thing about glory is they don't allow elbows.

[1708] Man, it is so vicious.

[1709] And I'm like sitting across the table from this guy and I like watch this thing and you're just like, oh, you're an 11 -time world champion sitting across from me talking about bullshit.

[1710] And I was just like, and I was just like, oh, you're a psychopath.

[1711] Well, he's a competitor.

[1712] Yeah, he's a champion.

[1713] He's a champion.

[1714] Well, champions are.

[1715] Most of them are psychos.

[1716] Yeah, right?

[1717] In a good way.

[1718] Like I remember at a young age, my dad teaching us how to like box a little bit and fight.

[1719] And I remember he always would say he's like punched to like through.

[1720] the face.

[1721] He's like, you want to punch, like, you want to, like, extend through the face.

[1722] Yeah.

[1723] Like, punch, he's like, think about, like, punching the back of their head.

[1724] Yeah.

[1725] And, uh, you know, shout out to Big Steve, but, uh.

[1726] That's what Camaro Usman did to Horamazvedal this weekend.

[1727] I mean, he punched through his face.

[1728] It was a perfect example that.

[1729] The chin into the shoulder.

[1730] He put him to sleep.

[1731] He put him to sleep.

[1732] But, but the way he hit him, he went through him.

[1733] Yes.

[1734] I mean, that was, that was, that was probably, that's a freight train.

[1735] The probably, that was probably the best one punch knockout I've ever seen in my life.

[1736] Was that the first strike?

[1737] No. No, no, no. It was the second round.

[1738] It was the second round.

[1739] Yeah, I think.

[1740] I was in bed.

[1741] I was in bed.

[1742] Yeah.

[1743] But the thing?

[1744] It was a perfect punch.

[1745] Like, the, if you wanted to Google, the perfect punch.

[1746] That is the perfect punch.

[1747] That is the perfect punch.

[1748] And then what about Rose?

[1749] Rose's kick.

[1750] It's a perfect kick.

[1751] Perfect kick.

[1752] Perfect kick.

[1753] Didn't see it coming, landed right in the jaw.

[1754] Put her out.

[1755] First round early in the fight.

[1756] And not only that, a woman in that lady, Jean -Wei -Lie.

[1757] who's thought to be the most durable and physically aggressive girl in the sport.

[1758] She's a monster.

[1759] Right.

[1760] You ever watch that lady train?

[1761] No. Oh, my God.

[1762] You want to feel lazy?

[1763] Watch Jean -Wei Lee train.

[1764] Yes.

[1765] It's like, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot.

[1766] All day.

[1767] Oh, my God.

[1768] I mean, just the intensity and the physicality, like, she's so strong and aggressive.

[1769] Yeah.

[1770] She's all sine you.

[1771] For Rose to kick her in the face like that.

[1772] That interview in Rose, after the fight, was the first time I ever openly crossed.

[1773] while I was interviewing somebody like tears were coming down my face I couldn't stop it like it's real Rose is special she's special Rose is special she's a super sweet person too she is I couldn't believe it she's one of those people that like she followed me on Instagram like years ago and I DM'd her and I was just like why do you like sometimes I'm like amazed I'm just like why do you like is this like you or is this like a thing and she was like I love your videos you make me laugh me and my husband like love watching your videos I was just like crazy I'm just like, this is amazing.

[1774] Do you have imposter syndrome sometimes?

[1775] We don't believe it.

[1776] 100 % every day.

[1777] Are you kidding me?

[1778] I do too.

[1779] Every day.

[1780] Why am I here?

[1781] Yeah.

[1782] Why are you here?

[1783] Why am I here?

[1784] Why are we all here?

[1785] I don't know.

[1786] When you DM'd me, I was in a quarantine situation getting back into Canada.

[1787] And I'm laying in my bed and you DM me, it was like about midnight, my time.

[1788] And I'm just, I got back from L .A. And I was like, I was so stoked.

[1789] I did Tiger Belly, I did Whiskey Ginger.

[1790] And I was just like, man, I'm fucking doing like big podcast And I'm like everyone like I'm friends with these dudes now And I'm like I'm so stoked Santino's been such a good friend And Bobby is such a fucking homie I love both those guys And Santino's here tomorrow Dude incredible comic Incredible person He is a great friend I love him to death Fucking funny He's really funny He's fucking He's fucking I really like watching him Fucking do stand up And when I got that DM I was like What?

[1791] Huh?

[1792] And it is like one of those things where you're like, huh, crazy.

[1793] And then I'm like getting pumped up, like coming down here.

[1794] I'm like, I'm like, okay, I'm like, I'm like, it's like, you know, you're getting ready for like a fight.

[1795] You're like, I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that.

[1796] And then I'm going to say this joke.

[1797] And then I'm going to rub them up.

[1798] And then I'm going to like, I'm going to like get him to fucking talk about like my podcast on his podcast.

[1799] And then I'm going to do all these things.

[1800] And I'm like, I'm fucking, I'm going to talk about how I did jujitsu once.

[1801] And we'll get there.

[1802] And I got tired out.

[1803] The shrimps.

[1804] The shrimps got me. Just doing shrimps was like tough on the big dog Did you shrimp on the ground?

[1805] I was doing shrimps on the ground And I was just like I was in Philly I was in Philly with some dudes You know Mark Vetri in those guys Out in Philly Italian chef, great chef He just became a black belt With precision out there And He's teaching you how to shrimp Well we were doing like a chef conference With like a bunch of like a chef conference But like an event Alex's lemonade stand Oh okay So we were doing like a big cancer For Kids thing And he was a little It was like, hey, open call.

[1806] Anybody that wants to come do Jiu -Jitsu, we do it every morning.

[1807] And I was just like, okay, I'll go like 6 a .m. Like, I want to try this.

[1808] And I went, and we took, it was so funny.

[1809] I was just like, warm up, I was dusted.

[1810] And then I got a ghee on.

[1811] The ghee barely fits me because obviously they don't have any large geese because they're all in shape.

[1812] And then the one guy, it was so funny, there was no bell set fit me. So the one guy had this big purple belt.

[1813] And he gave me like a purple belt.

[1814] And so we took a photo after the thing.

[1815] And my Instagram was like, you're a purple belt.

[1816] We knew it, Maddie.

[1817] And they're like, and so many people were just like, oh, my God.

[1818] They're like, and then some people were like, there's no way this got some purple belt.

[1819] And like it was this like, and then I was just like, I'm not a purple belt, okay, anybody?

[1820] But I did jiu -jitsu there.

[1821] But Alex, who do I do the pod?

[1822] He just became a blue belt.

[1823] And he's doing it at the undefeated gym in L .A. Oh, nice.

[1824] And so he just got his blue belt, and we were talking about imposter syndrome.

[1825] He was just like, because we always make fun.

[1826] He always says he's a tough white belt.

[1827] And so he's like, but now I'm a shit blue belt, you know?

[1828] So it's like, it's always like that humbling moment and there's always like that moment in time where you're like, I don't, why do I deserve that?

[1829] He's like, I should have worked hard.

[1830] I should be a better white belt to get that blue belt, actually.

[1831] He's like, I could still work harder at being a white belt to get that blue.

[1832] And I think like that is the thing where most of the time, like my brain is always saying no, why do you have this?

[1833] Why do you have, you know, restaurants?

[1834] Why do you have this?

[1835] Why do you have books?

[1836] Why do you have all this bullshit?

[1837] You don't deserve this.

[1838] You're a fucking loser.

[1839] And I'm just like, I'm not a loser!

[1840] Shut!

[1841] I'm not a fucking loser.

[1842] I've got to pump my own brakes, man. Or pump my own tires.

[1843] Whatever the fuck I'm pumping.

[1844] But it's just like...

[1845] Your gas?

[1846] I'm all gas, baby.

[1847] Pump your gas.

[1848] I'm pumping my fucking...

[1849] I'm a rev up.

[1850] I'm going to rev up.

[1851] You want to rev up?

[1852] Let's get some more fucking black rifle.

[1853] I think we are revved up.

[1854] We're revved up.

[1855] What's going on, Joe?

[1856] How are you today?

[1857] I'm good.

[1858] I think that's the reason why you have that, yeah, sure, thank you.

[1859] I think the reason why you have that feeling, that imposter syndrome, most sane people that become successful do have that.

[1860] Right.

[1861] You know, because it doesn't make sense, especially like when you're young, you'd ever thought you'd be successful, and then all of a sudden you are, and you're like, is this even real?

[1862] I remember I wanted to get to a financial point where I didn't want to check my bank app to fill up my gas.

[1863] That was a big moment in my life Me and Greg Fitzsimmons You know Greg Fitzsimmons?

[1864] I don't hilarious stand -up comic We started out together And one of the things we always talked about Was that one day we would get to a place Where we could pay our bills with comedy That's all we wanted to do We want to be professionals Yeah I just imagine you didn't have to have a regular job You could just pay your bills with comedy Oh I remember thinking that Well comedy you don't even get paid Right until you're like what A headline?

[1865] Do you get paid for five minutes?

[1866] Yeah Well you get a little bit Depending on which club it is You know, it depends on where you're at.

[1867] Like, clubs in New York, they'll have people do shorter sets and clubs in L .A. Sometimes you do 15, so you make like 25 bucks at the comedy store if you do 15.

[1868] But if you do, like, it's incredible.

[1869] It's ridiculous, yeah.

[1870] Buck a minute.

[1871] Buck 25 a minute, right?

[1872] You know, there's a different.

[1873] To go up there and just die on stage.

[1874] It's a different thing because it's a place where, like, the comedy store in L .A. was always our gym.

[1875] It's a place where we worked out.

[1876] So it wasn't really about making money.

[1877] We'd make our money on the road.

[1878] Right.

[1879] But when you go on the road.

[1880] you know if you're lucky you'll you get a guy who's a headliner he'll take you with him on the road so like say if you're starting out and you're a host or an opening act someone will take you with them and then they'll let you they'll say hey just do 10 minutes and then bring up the middle act and then you'll get to watch the middle act and go someday someday I'll be the middle act and then one day you're the middle act and you watch the headliner and like someday and then someday one day you're the headliner and then one day people are actually coming to see you and one day they introduce you and people cheer and you're like what is this real the chair It's crazy, right?

[1881] It's bizarre.

[1882] Dude, I, what, two years ago?

[1883] Two years ago, I guess now, I started doing like a spoken word tour.

[1884] Oh, boy.

[1885] Or Dane did a lot of those.

[1886] He loved doing those.

[1887] Once again, very afraid to go to those.

[1888] You know?

[1889] I was like, I'm going to, yeah, fuck.

[1890] He is such a beauty.

[1891] And, you know, I was like, I'm going to go on stage, and I wanted to start doing tours.

[1892] And nobody even knew what the fuck they were.

[1893] and I started in like small bars and by the end of like I did about 50 shows in a year and it was great like it went from like 200 people which is still amazing no openers no nothing nobody people thought I was going to do like cooking demos and I went on stage and did like a spoken word for about an hour and a half wow did you plan it out no really first night was the first night I spoke on stage no planning no fucking notes How many people in the audience?

[1894] 200?

[1895] Wow.

[1896] Maybe more.

[1897] Probably more.

[1898] It was sold out.

[1899] The whole thing was sold out.

[1900] It was just the smaller venues.

[1901] We started at small venues to amp up.

[1902] What does it feel like?

[1903] How did you start?

[1904] I was just like, I walked out.

[1905] I was like, you fucking, like, I just started like chirping the crowd a little bit and like working the crowd and me like, where the fuck are you from?

[1906] I'm like, I'm in, my first show was in Boston in this like little dive bar.

[1907] And it was so incredible.

[1908] I was just like, what the fuck is out with Boston?

[1909] You guys are fucking all racist.

[1910] You're fucking.

[1911] Losers.

[1912] You all sound like you're from Southie.

[1913] I was just like, whatever, making jokes.

[1914] And I was just like, and then I was just like, okay, who thought I was going to cook?

[1915] And everyone's like, that.

[1916] And I'm like, why would I cook, you stupid fucks?

[1917] Why would I cook?

[1918] What am I going to do?

[1919] Come on stage you make an omelet and share it with everybody?

[1920] I was like, no, we're here to fucking, I'm here to fucking figure out what the fuck I'm doing here.

[1921] And I honestly, like, we built out by like show three, I had a solid hour and a half.

[1922] Really?

[1923] And I just started, and then I started doing it.

[1924] And the big, I think I did like a 2 ,000 cap room.

[1925] And it was like crazy.

[1926] Wow.

[1927] And I was just like, this is so wild.

[1928] I was like, with no prep.

[1929] And I was like, this is great.

[1930] And I had a three -month tour booked.

[1931] One of the, part of the six months I had booked was I had a three -month world tour booked.

[1932] Wow.

[1933] So I was doing.

[1934] So you're just going to do this kind of stuff, but do it all over the place.

[1935] Yeah.

[1936] Well, I did Australia.

[1937] I did New Zealand.

[1938] I did, you know...

[1939] Now, when you do 2 ,000 seats, do you have it prepared?

[1940] Like, the stories you're going to tell, the things you're going to talk about?

[1941] No. We're going on stage and I just start talking.

[1942] That's so ridiculous.

[1943] I have a baseline that I work on, and I go on and off.

[1944] I have tangents that I can run off of, and I've built out this timeline of my life, and I tell these stories throughout my life.

[1945] If you just tell the drug stories, I feel like...

[1946] Bro, I have this one story that's incredible where we stole $16 ,000 from my parents which they had some my dad was an entrepreneur at one point so we had a lot of money and then so I stole some money we gave it to my friend who drove to Vancouver bought a pound of cocaine then a uncut brick one pound of cocaine how much does that cost it was $16 ,000 that's it at that time this is like 2000 give her more more more I was just to say it's about $16 ,000 yeah it's about $16 ,000 yeah he's like it's about $16 ,000 have you done coke you've never done cocaine that's incredible because I find it very fascinating to me people that haven't done cocaine that's incredible have you never no see I think that that it's an interesting thing to me for some reason because I'm just like weird you never wanted to fucking like crack it when I was in high school yeah when I was in high school one of my best friends had a cousin that had a real problem right and I watched him fall apart from coke It scares you.

[1947] And I had a couple other people around me that also had coke problems.

[1948] And I was back then, like, super straight edge.

[1949] Yeah.

[1950] Like, I'm going to be a winner.

[1951] I'm going to get my shit together.

[1952] Like, my biggest fear, my biggest fear in life was being a loser.

[1953] Yeah.

[1954] My number one.

[1955] The only reason why I went to college.

[1956] Yeah.

[1957] So the people didn't feel like I was a loser.

[1958] Stay home.

[1959] Stay home guy.

[1960] I'm going to stay home for a summer.

[1961] I'm going to take a year off.

[1962] I did take a year off.

[1963] Same thing.

[1964] I took a year off and that was a humiliating year.

[1965] Whenever I would run in a friend.

[1966] Yeah, you were a loser for that year.

[1967] That was the only year.

[1968] they well I was a loser after that too because I was broke even though I was like if I had to explain to people like what are you doing I travel around the country kicking people in the face yeah there was no money in that I was broke I'm getting paid nothing to go and fight people no health insurance and I was kicking people in the face for fun that was my number one and then I was like okay I got to figure out what to do with my life but that fear of not being a loser was why I never did coke because I saw this guy lose his life he lost lost his life he lost his weight got real skinny and pale and him and his girlfriend and just probably wasn't doing too much coke he's probably doing little meth and stuff too there was no math back then no oh yeah those the 80s yeah yeah nobody had math in the 80s unless they didn't weren't telling anybody yet i don't know there's something around of the 90s they definitely had pills yeah people had amphetamines for sure but i don't think they had crystal no the uh yeah drugs are bad but the uh okay okay but i had this bit about fucking about the pound of coke i'm sorry interrupted you no no joe we never Okay.

[1969] There's a pound.

[1970] We got a pound of cocaine.

[1971] What does it look like?

[1972] How big is a pound of coke?

[1973] It's like a movie.

[1974] It's like a thing.

[1975] We had this like fucking Like a movie scene.

[1976] Yeah, it is.

[1977] It's like a pack of fucking shit.

[1978] So he had to go buy it.

[1979] Then he had to drive back.

[1980] And it was back when we had fucking flip phones.

[1981] So like T9 texting and fucking razor Motorola's and fucking shit.

[1982] And so nobody could communicate.

[1983] Still even with that communication was very shit.

[1984] And so we were like text us every day.

[1985] It's a four day.

[1986] It's a four day.

[1987] drive back from Vancouver.

[1988] So, Texas every fucking day.

[1989] Four days with a pound coke.

[1990] In his car door.

[1991] In his car door.

[1992] So he's like, unscrewed his car door, put the, you know, duct tape it in.

[1993] Oh, my God.

[1994] And it's me and my friends in college.

[1995] We all got this like, whatever.

[1996] There's like, was he going the speed limit?

[1997] Well, this is the best thing.

[1998] So like, on the last day, he texts us.

[1999] And he's like, I'm leaving Thunder Bay.

[2000] Thunder Bay is about 18 hours from Toronto.

[2001] So it's northern, most northern part.

[2002] It borders like Winnipeg.

[2003] And it's like the northern.

[2004] part of fucking Ontario 18 hour drive home and we're like it's coming home and we're all like cheerleaders we're like let's go let's go boys boys you know like just like we're all just like let's go and then and I the amazing thing was all of a sudden we're all getting ramped up we're like tomorrow it's going to be here it's going to be here fucking tomorrow we're all fucking dropping out of college this is the going to be the greatest decision of our lives we're just about a pound of cocaine we're going to but the idea was to sell it because we're going to make like 30 ,000 We, you know, we step on it like three times, sell little baggies.

[2005] We're going to make, we're going to get rich, you know?

[2006] And he texted us just got pulled over.

[2007] And we're just like, what the fuck are you talking about?

[2008] And I was just like, we're going to have to kill him.

[2009] We're going to, like, instantly I'm just like, we're going to have to kill him.

[2010] If he says my name or if he says, we're going to have to kill our friend.

[2011] He's going to rat on us.

[2012] He's not strong enough.

[2013] He's not mentally strong enough to get the fuzz off his back.

[2014] And he's like, I just got pulled over.

[2015] Then we're like, okay, nobody text them because then they'll have our numbers and we're like, why did he even text us?

[2016] We're like, fuck.

[2017] We're all like, do we like boil our phones?

[2018] What do we do here?

[2019] Jesus Christ.

[2020] Then all of said, he's like, he calls our old roommate Dougie.

[2021] And fucking, he literally's like, dude, I got pulled over and there was like a snowstorm kind of and my windshield wiper flew off and I was using my arm driving like half the speed limit.

[2022] And I got pulled over because the cop is now going to drive me. to a, like a garage so I can fix my windshield wiper.

[2023] Good cop.

[2024] And I was just like, hey, okay, okay.

[2025] He still got the cocaine in the car.

[2026] He's like, cocaine's great.

[2027] Just following this police officer to a garage to fix my windshield wiper.

[2028] And I was like, why don't you just pull over?

[2029] The windshield wiper's gone.

[2030] You got the pound of cocaine.

[2031] Why don't you bring it back to the fucking, get off the road.

[2032] You know?

[2033] It's a snowstorm driving a 94 Camry.

[2034] Like, what the fuck is going on?

[2035] You know?

[2036] Like, it's just like one of those things.

[2037] And I was just like, when he showed up we had this plan we were going to have his name like football painted on our bodies and we were going to be standing out because where his parking spot was his name his name was Dustin did you have enough people yeah we were going to have a welcoming party so we were going to have Dustin and we were all we were on the second floor of this building right out at Islington and Dixon shout out to fucking Rexdale and we're fucking we were all going to line up and then he called us about the cops and all this stuff, and we were all going to have Dustin and he showed up and it was the craziest.

[2038] We did all the cocaine in about two weeks and we didn't sell any of it and none of us left and I'm like if you in culinary school so like everyone's pretty crispy, you know?

[2039] Like at that point you're just like and it's pure cocaine so you can like sleep on it?

[2040] What is it like to do pure cocaine?

[2041] It was that so we broke off this little piece and I could still remember it like I remember everybody that was there You know I won't say their names because one of them works at the airport so I remember man and he broke off a piece and we took it and we it was like a rock and he just took it and like hit it on the table and it just dust fell And we made like fresh lines out of that and we just did it and we were like It was like it was a movie.

[2042] It was like euphoric.

[2043] It was like this is a drug see this is a drug see this is a drug.

[2044] The shit we're doing with like, with like laxatives and fucking stepped on 10 times.

[2045] That's not a thing.

[2046] This fresh cocaine, that's nice.

[2047] That's what it should be.

[2048] That's what it should be legal.

[2049] Yes.

[2050] Pure cocaine.

[2051] Legal.

[2052] It should be legal.

[2053] All drugs should be legal.

[2054] All drugs.

[2055] Drugs are perfect.

[2056] Humans are the fuck -ups.

[2057] But the problem is when you're getting something they call it cocaine and it's really a bunch other shit like fentanylis.

[2058] Yeah, fentanyl, fentanyl, fucking baby.

[2059] Most of the time I'm just shitting.

[2060] If I look at a dollar bill, I'll take a shit you know like it's just like man I can smell like that's all why do they put laxatives in it I don't know because I think you can snort it and it like burns your nose kind of like I don't know because okay doesn't really burn your nose either I don't fucking no man yeah just yeah there we go that's the big yeah it's just white it right it's the same consistency they put vitamins sometimes too right yeah they're assholes they're assholes and if you they do anything test it right you know because like even like even like even if you know take it and like fucking freebase it or anything it just turns to glue most the time or like even like you get like chunky you can get like chunky shitty coke and like sometimes I would take like a micro a plate put in the microwave and heat it up then you pour the coke on there and it'll dry it out kind of make it more crisper and nicer to sniff this is too much information this is a lot of people watch this eh yeah it's a few stop my mom's gonna be like what the fuck are you talking about pure cocaine she's like Maddie she would be like you're so sweet you figured it out anyways my Joni's so sweet shout to Joni love Joni she's the best fucking ace a pound of cocaine would land you in jail for a long time I feel so yeah yeah because they would assume that you're selling it they would not just doing it like a bunch of college students not just for personal use it's personal use but it's good that you didn't step on it that's good you maintain your integrity well yeah that's the thing well it's just like because I wasn't a drug dealer but it was like I lived with a couple drug dealers so and then we just it was so good that we were just like this is crazy we have like like the supply we're like this will last us like a year you know it no it lasted it has literally two weeks and then i get a phone call from my fucking my dean my head chef and he calls me and i was just like who's this number and i answer it and he's like mattie and i was like yeah and he's like this is chef and i was like chef who like what's chef he's like whatever his name was and i was just like oh my god chef hey how are you doing he's like what's going on on you haven't been to school in fucking two weeks and I was like we got a pound of Coke yeah and I kind of was just like you know I'm mentally fragile right now chef and and I don't really have anything no fucking real breakfast in me anymore and I you know is there any way that I can just come back I've had a rough little couple weeks and you know I like how can I get back in the program and he's like you know we really like you you've done really well up into this point he's like come in and talk to us I'm going to have all our chefs here and we're going to assess And you came in like Ray Leota and Goodfell's looking for the helicopter Just like so Yeah Imagine me like just fucking Thinking I'm looking like real chill and professional Just showed up having showered in like two weeks Just like headshot eyes What's going on?

[2061] Yeah just like haven't been outside A sheen of sweat over your whole body Oh mama me Man I just smell like chemicals I smell like bleach I just smell like cum and bleach Fucking so gross And I walk in all my chefs were there and I was just like and they're like so what explained to us and I was like okay here's the deal we bought a pound of cocaine they're like excuse me I was like me and my roommates bought a pound of cocaine and we've done it all it's all gone and they're like excuse me and I was just like chefs I need to come back to work my parents you know, I need to finish this program.

[2062] And they're like, you are telling us that you, and how many people?

[2063] And I was like, there's like a core group of four.

[2064] And then, you know, sporadically up to maybe seven.

[2065] We kept it tight.

[2066] And they were like, Maddie?

[2067] And I was like, chefs.

[2068] And they're like, you're going to be a good chef one day.

[2069] I was just like, what?

[2070] And they're like, you don't lie to us.

[2071] And I was just like, I'm not lying.

[2072] And I was just like, they're like, you were lying?

[2073] Oh, yeah.

[2074] They were just like, what are you talking about?

[2075] And I was just like, well, okay, well, fuck it.

[2076] You know, fuck it.

[2077] And I was just like, well, I want to be a chef.

[2078] You know, I got the chef whites here.

[2079] I'm fucking, you know, how good.

[2080] Like, you could see me. I fucked up for two weeks.

[2081] Like, let me back in.

[2082] I'll rock.

[2083] You know?

[2084] No questions asked.

[2085] I'm like, because you, they lock the door at quarter to 8 a .m. So you have to be there at seven.

[2086] You have to be a half hour early to like your fucking cooking class or they lock you out.

[2087] And so.

[2088] They're like, okay, you miss one day, you're out.

[2089] And then literally, I was like, no problem.

[2090] And they're like, we're going to let you back in.

[2091] This is unheard of.

[2092] And stop long.

[2093] Like, they're just like so sweet.

[2094] And I was just like, and I had a good relationship with them.

[2095] And I was like, it was like a very interesting cooking, you know, situation.

[2096] And I was just like, okay, like, I'm in.

[2097] I want to be a chef.

[2098] Like, because they were like, do you want to be a chef?

[2099] Because if you don't, like, fuck off.

[2100] Right.

[2101] And I was like, I want to be a chef.

[2102] want to go work in French restaurants.

[2103] I want to, you know, I want to work on my skills.

[2104] There's nothing else for me. This makes me feel happy.

[2105] I am lucky that I have found something that I can do.

[2106] I wasn't good at lacrosse.

[2107] I wasn't good at skateboarding.

[2108] I wasn't good at fucking anything.

[2109] Now, I wasn't good at anything in high school.

[2110] And now in college, I get fucking like 90s because I can fucking debone a quail and make a borderlays.

[2111] I can make Hollandeys.

[2112] I can make a stock.

[2113] I'm not an idiot.

[2114] I can hold the line.

[2115] I don't fall during service.

[2116] And you enjoy it.

[2117] And I love it.

[2118] Cooking is I love it.

[2119] I love it.

[2120] You can tell.

[2121] That's one the things about your videos.

[2122] It's very infectious.

[2123] When people love what they're doing, it's very infectious.

[2124] Because you can't, I'm not an act.

[2125] Like the thing too is like I'm not an actor.

[2126] You know, like I don't know how to be anything but this.

[2127] Like I'm just a fucking, I'm this.

[2128] You know?

[2129] And I was just like, I want to be a chef.

[2130] I'm gonna be a chef and and they're like okay and it was amazing because like literally i get back you know i'm like i go back to school you know take a shower brush my teeth you know get ready and shave my face and um and then like two weeks later it's almost like the end of the year too and i fucking i just drop out to go on tour with like a metal band when my buddy's like metal band and i like drop out and then like my punk because i was like you know when you're i feel like i got caught by doing drugs but then me being like punk I was like all my friends like death metal band is touring Canada they're like do you want to come with us I was like yeah okay that makes sense I don't need a piece of paper I don't need my diploma to say that I'm a chef I learned everything what I'm going to learn in the last two weeks of this course and so I ended up actually dropping out and I felt like it's one of those things where I was just like you know I never talked to those chefs again I never saw it like who sees their college student or you know who sees their teachers from college really And then years down the line, it's so incredible.

[2131] My chef, chef Anthony, I'll say his first name, but chef Anthony fucking hit me up on Facebook.

[2132] He's this big Irish fucking red motherfucker, big Michelin psychopath.

[2133] And he was just like, he like, whatever, he like Facebooked me or messaged me on Facebook when I still had like Facebook.

[2134] And he was just like, I'm really proud of you.

[2135] he's like you you have multiple restaurants like you fucking pulled it out this is incredible he's like i remember who you were and he's like to see your rise like in the city is like really incredible he's like there's no other chefs from your graduating class not that you graduated but there was he's like you're the one he's like just think of that like all of the chefs in that class in that in that fucking whatever that was you know whatever you call it a class or whatever there's like you are the one and I was just like that's so crazy he's like there's no other chefs he's like you are the only chef from that program so no one else became a chef no they all just go into the they go into the thing and they get burnt or they get pushed out or you know like it's a tough thing it's tough it's like I'm a tough white belt how long does it take to become a black belt not that I'm a you know it is what it's like I'm more like a business person now like I'm not like technically I'm not the best chef but I'm definitely like I have that well -roundedness I understand most chefs most great chefs are just great chefs they're not great operators or they're not great business people and a lot of chefs also aren't really like they don't own the business right it's kind of ironic what made you big was not just your cooking skills but was this big personality and this big personality which is originally connected to drugs and partying and then you know that kind of like got you in the door yeah well it it wasn't many doors I couldn't walk through, you know?

[2136] There wasn't many doors that I, like, you know, I either kicked them down or I was welcomed with, you know, open arms, but it's still like...

[2137] It is interesting that no one else from the class made it.

[2138] Yeah, like, and I don't even mean that to it.

[2139] Because I'm a firm believer of, like, going to school, and I think going to school taught me that I liked school.

[2140] I hated high school.

[2141] I didn't like math or science or gym or whatever, English.

[2142] You didn't like doing things you didn't like to do.

[2143] No, I was a very, fuck you guy.

[2144] A lot of kids is that they don't find a thing.

[2145] They think that they're never going to be good in anything because they're not good at school, because they're not interested in school.

[2146] And then they find something that they're interested in.

[2147] They go, oh, that's not what it is.

[2148] I'm not a loser.

[2149] I just don't like what I'm doing.

[2150] And most people don't use the tools that you learned in high school.

[2151] Like, high school is mostly just a social experiment.

[2152] You know, for like building, keeping kids away from their parents and like doing stuff and building social fucking, you know, awareness kind of.

[2153] But I think it's just like, like the amount of things that, I don't know, like I think the thing that clicked with my, with going to cooking school was I realized what self -esteem was.

[2154] I never felt self -esteem like that before where all of a sudden, if I did, if I showed up with my clean chef whites and I did what the chef said and I did my mezon place and I cooked a dish and I did everything to fucking the spec of what was put to me, I get a good grain.

[2155] I was a 50 percentile student.

[2156] I was always just, what do I have to do to pass?

[2157] I was very much like, and I was funny enough in high school that I could work with my teachers on, what do I have to do to just get through this shit?

[2158] I'm not going to be a mathematician.

[2159] I'm not going to be a teacher.

[2160] I'm not going to be fucking anything that's going on in this fucking room, you know?

[2161] And I think a lot of teachers even were like, well, you know, I was one of those kids that they're like, okay, good luck with whatever the fuck you're going to be doing too, you know?

[2162] Because I was a verbal, you know, I was like an asshole, and I wasn't afraid to say fuck you to somebody or be like, yeah send me to the office okay cool thank you or like fight with my vice principals and like all that kind of stuff like I was like in the office every day you know like a fun person yeah yeah I remember when I switched because I got kicked out of my first high school for fighting and my older brother was a fighter too so they're like we're not dealing with another Matheson you got to get the fuck out of here so then I went to a Catholic high school and I remember like the first week I walked during like morning prayer I like was just like bada and just like walked out of the room because I saw like my homie walking down the hallway and I was like yeah what's up and I like just left during prayer and I like the teacher like almost like choke slammed me and I was just like what's happening and they're like it's morning prayer and I was just like no I saw my butt like I was just like Catholic school was just another whole thing because I was like I was brought up I was brought Mormon really so I was brought Mormon your family's Mormon well my family's Mormon but we're all excommunicated what happened my dad got us all taken out of the thing so it was just like we were like deep.

[2163] We were deep and then when we moved provinces the church wasn't good here in Ontario.

[2164] So in Nova Scotia, big fellowship, Mormon world, you know?

[2165] Then my dad was like a high deacon or whatever the fuck it was.

[2166] We always like sat next to like the bishop's family, like front row shit because it's all like the families whoever's like up on the stage or whatever like the family sit in the front rows and shit.

[2167] And so then when we moved to Ontario I fucking, you know, like when we were about 12, 13, right around like that time when we started all of a sudden doing like drugs and drinking is when we stopped going to the church.

[2168] Because that's maybe a part of it too, right?

[2169] Where like we were like, I never had a Coca -Cola.

[2170] I never saw a PG -rated movie.

[2171] We only watched G -rated.

[2172] Really?

[2173] I never saw The Simpsons until I was, you know, like things like that.

[2174] Like we were allowed.

[2175] So once you got excommunicated from the church, they just.

[2176] Well, we, we.

[2177] We took ourselves, my dad, I don't know if excommunicates the right word.

[2178] Left the church.

[2179] When we left the church, but because they have so much information on you and your family, like, fucking family tree stuff, like, it takes a long time to actually get your, like, your shit out of there.

[2180] What do you mean?

[2181] Like, you're, like, I think they just have, like, a lot of information on you and your families, and they do a lot of ancestral stuff, right?

[2182] So I think they do, like, a lot of, and you know, the pen, you got to give all it.

[2183] Like, even, like, I would get $2 a week for my allowance, and I'd have to give 10 % to the church.

[2184] So we would all, be my brothers, we would have to take our nickels or whatever, our dimes.

[2185] And we'd have to give our 10 % to the church.

[2186] Really?

[2187] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[2188] So that was training, like, just think, like that training of like giving the church the money from day one and all that kind of shit.

[2189] So it was just like, and then, you know, my parents are like, they were young and it's great.

[2190] They were like the young, the young couple that got knocked on and my dad was like, come on in, like, drink a, like, you want a beer?

[2191] And all of a sudden my dad was just like, and it was one of those things where I was like, I'm like, why?

[2192] You know, we were so, like, you, like, when I found that out later on, I was like, you literally just like somebody knocked on the, you let a missionary in here?

[2193] You know, like, where it's like so funny.

[2194] How old were you when you were asking him that question?

[2195] Like later, like in my 20s?

[2196] Yeah.

[2197] Like when I had like some balls to like, you know, dads are so scary.

[2198] So I was just like, you know, like when I. Huh?

[2199] Yeah, just why.

[2200] You're asking him why.

[2201] Yeah, just like some, like where I was just like, you know, like he would come visit me in college and we'd go have like lunch, you know?

[2202] My dad would drive up to the city and, you know, having those fathers.

[2203] son kind of conversations like, hey, like, this was kind of crazy back then.

[2204] Or like, why was this?

[2205] Or like, you know, like, why, you know, why were we never allowed to like sleep over at other kids' houses or like, you know, like things like little small things that I don't think are, you know, crazy.

[2206] But I think it's definitely like one of those things that like, you know, never having like a Coca -Cola and then all of a sudden I'm like doing acid.

[2207] You know, I'm all gas.

[2208] You know?

[2209] Like it's just like, I was like, oh, cool.

[2210] We're not Mormons anymore.

[2211] Let's do some blotter acid.

[2212] Sometimes that's what triggers it, right?

[2213] It's the repression.

[2214] There's so much repression, and then all of a sudden they take the reins off you.

[2215] Well, and the idea of heaven just like, at a young age, I strongly felt like there was no heaven.

[2216] And I strongly felt, I didn't believe it from a young age because I also, and there's three levels of heaven in the Mormon, in the Mormon, or in the book of Mormon, right?

[2217] There's like the celestial, the fucking whatever, and the whatever.

[2218] So I was this like, there's three levels of heaven?

[2219] There's like three levels of heaven.

[2220] There's tears.

[2221] There's tears, right?

[2222] So the thing that I was, I was a klepto as a kid.

[2223] I would walk into, like, you know, a little store and, like, grab a little thing.

[2224] Like, I remember, I stole a jackknife once from, like, this, like, you know, hardware store.

[2225] Like, I would just, like, take things, you know, a little klepto.

[2226] And in my head, at a very young age, I was like, I'm never going to be eternal with my parents.

[2227] At a very young age.

[2228] I was like, my parents are like, you know, they did the whole thing with the underwear and they're married forever.

[2229] Underwear is wild.

[2230] I think they had to give it back or they had to get rid of it.

[2231] it.

[2232] I don't know.

[2233] Let's FaceTime Steve and be like, what the fuck?

[2234] Did you have to give the underwear back then?

[2235] I still don't understand like they have information on you.

[2236] Like, why, is that make it hard to leave because they tell you, hey, we know things about you?

[2237] No, I don't think it's like weird, like that kind of stuff.

[2238] I just think it was like just to get our shit out to be like stricken of the books.

[2239] Right, so you don't have to pay them every week and you don't have to.

[2240] Pence or I think it's called Pence but I think it's like once again there's probably a lot of Mormons watching this that are being like, Maddie doesn't know shit and I don't know shit okay I don't know shit I just lived it right but I just think it is I remember it was just one of those things where I remember my dad and my sister it was crazy because she had a child out of wedlock she's gonna love that I say this but she had like a child out of wedlock and so that was like a thing where I think it was like I don't even know I think there was like a thing where she got like a piece of paper saying she had to go in front of like a tribunal oh boy and like you know explain herself or she was getting excommunity.

[2241] I still forget it's kind of fuzzy but I think it was like one of those things where I remember when the missionaries showed up and it was almost like they served her papers or some shit and I remember my older brother almost like beat the shit out of these missionaries.

[2242] It was like get the fuck out of you know one of those kind of things like get off our porch get the fuck out of here.

[2243] Serving you papers you violated I don't know.

[2244] Religious fucked I hate like that's the thing is like I don't like a lot of well that is the wackiest religion it's the wackiest right?

[2245] I know I was Of course I'm a part of it.

[2246] It's like, other than Scientology.

[2247] I was baptized.

[2248] It's the wackiest one.

[2249] It's the wackiest one, right?

[2250] They know the guy who made it up and he was a con man. We used to go.

[2251] We used to go to the hill where he found the Book of Mormon, and they used to redo the event, and we would visit the jail where he was, like, murdered.

[2252] How old was he when they killed him?

[2253] In his 20s?

[2254] That's in that wild.

[2255] John Smith, right?

[2256] John Smith?

[2257] Joseph.

[2258] Joseph Smith.

[2259] He invented it when he was 14.

[2260] years old.

[2261] Let's go.

[2262] That's incredible.

[2263] That's like now.

[2264] That's like a TikToker.

[2265] You know, everyone just follows TikTok.

[2266] Same shit.

[2267] Well, I just can't imagine a 14 year old that's not full of shit.

[2268] Yeah.

[2269] You know, like a 14 year old that tells you a story like that and everybody's like, wow.

[2270] He's like, you've met angels?

[2271] Wow.

[2272] Where do they like?

[2273] They were beautiful.

[2274] You have golden tablets.

[2275] I love a golden tablet.

[2276] With the last work of Jesus.

[2277] Jesus.

[2278] There was a guy that was a. Angels.

[2279] I love an angel.

[2280] A Mormon.

[2281] he was a higher up in the church and he was a wealthy Mormon guy and he decided he was going to do this is back before 23 and me way back in the day he was going to sequence the DNA of Native Americans to prove they were the lost tribe of Israel to prove that the book of Mormon was correct turns out no no false yeah it turns out they're from Siberia really yeah full circle well it's like the world when the world was all together well they always thought that, you know, scientists and archaeologists thought that people came down from the Bering Strait, the Bering Landmass.

[2282] But there was also people that lived here as well.

[2283] Yeah.

[2284] You know, there's, see, there's a lot of confusion about that.

[2285] They're not really exactly sure.

[2286] They think for sure some people came here by boat, but they don't know when.

[2287] They don't know how long ago.

[2288] The Anglos.

[2289] No, not even the Anglos, man. For the Anglos.

[2290] Pacific Islanders were traveling thousands of years ago.

[2291] Right, right.

[2292] And they think maybe some of them made it here.

[2293] and they think that for sure some people came across the Bering Landmass, and they think, you know, some people might have come up from South America, like the Olmex and, you know, and all, they don't know.

[2294] They don't know.

[2295] They don't know how long people have been here.

[2296] There's a lot of guessing.

[2297] There is.

[2298] I appreciate the guessing.

[2299] They can prove like a, like there was a guy, what is it, Kennewickman?

[2300] Kennewick, man. Is that it?

[2301] There was a guy that they found, they found a body that had a spear tip.

[2302] or an arrowhead in the bones like fused into the bone and so they knew that this guy had been killed there right and they knew that he'd been killed by a I think it was a Clovis point wow but I think they did they carbon dated his body back to like 5 ,000 plus years ago and so they're like trying to figure out like was this oh that was the thing about this okay this where I heard about this this was on the meat eater podcast Steve Rennell's podcast right and they had um thought that he was was an Anglo -Saxon.

[2303] They thought that he was a white man based on his bone structure, which is nonsense.

[2304] Right, yeah.

[2305] It doesn't work like that.

[2306] And so as they, you know, started to do some examinations on his DNA, they found out, no, he was, in fact, of Native American ancestry.

[2307] But they don't know, they really don't know, like, when people got here, there's a lot of guessing, you know, until they find, that's what happens with paleontology, like, they'll find an old bone.

[2308] And they'll go, well, here's a human bone.

[2309] Now we push it back to 12 ,600 years.

[2310] Okay, now we found a new one.

[2311] Now we push it back to 14 ,000 years.

[2312] I love that.

[2313] It's wild shit.

[2314] It is wild shit.

[2315] Do you think they're going to know when they come?

[2316] What's going on with the aliens?

[2317] Well, let me fill me in.

[2318] Okay?

[2319] I want to know, because I have a funny story about aliens.

[2320] Oh, I love to hear it.

[2321] Okay.

[2322] On my wedding day, it was incredible.

[2323] We found this, we had all those like lanterns, and we had a bunch of people, and we lit them on fire and we put up the orbs, right?

[2324] And they float.

[2325] You know, about two weeks after our wedding, there's this viral video in Canada of an alien invasion.

[2326] And it's this little, little group of people.

[2327] Maybe they're in trailers.

[2328] Maybe they're not.

[2329] Maybe they're on math Maybe and they are Freaking out of the invasion that's happening right now And there's video and it's like come on There's more there's more there's more there's more and it's literally like you know 20 miles down the road from where we were Right and so it's your stuff just Vicer wrote an article about it like all this stuff was happening about this alien invasion and this video and I had to be like I emailed like the editor and I was just like hey I honestly think that this is for my wedding and it was like this incredible like thing where and they took it down on their Facebook because it went viral it was like this huge thing where people were like what is this like what are all these orbs like they're floating over and it was like this incredible thing where we were like in forever like our family is just like remember the aliens that came to your wedding and floated down the because you just put them up it's just like lighting trash on fire and letting it go are they um it's just like a candle inside of it?

[2330] Yeah, it's like one of those like little like tea light things.

[2331] And the heat from the thing and it's just like this orb.

[2332] But they flew forever.

[2333] And we were on the water.

[2334] We were in like Port Dover and so it blew it down the fuck it.

[2335] It just like the wind picked it up.

[2336] There's no danger of that causing a forest fire?

[2337] No. No?

[2338] No. Never.

[2339] But it's a candle that's floating.

[2340] Yeah.

[2341] Anywhere.

[2342] Yeah.

[2343] Like a bundle of pine needles.

[2344] No, there's no bundle of pine needles in Canada.

[2345] It's all wet.

[2346] We're moistered.

[2347] We're well moistered all the time yeah all the time but you have fires up there you do have fires up there some places like up north kind of but not really nothing to like really speak it's not a problem okay yeah we can you know a bunch of white privileged losers put setting fire bombs up into the sky yeah no problem but the fucking but aliens I'm interested I'm I'm genuinely because I'm like obviously there's like it's ignorant right to think that there isn't stuff out there am I crazy something this happening very soon isn't the Pentagon releasing something Didn't they have some sort of a press release scheduled?

[2348] The 180 -day thing?

[2349] No, there's something that's scheduled very soon that Jeremy Corbell was discussing because they just released.

[2350] Excuse me. I got a cough button now.

[2351] Watch.

[2352] It actually says cough.

[2353] Yes, it's real, which is great, because I used to cough.

[2354] I used to clear my throat into the mic, and people got super annoyed.

[2355] But there's been quite a few sightings that they've confirmed that the people, Pentagon's confirmed the Navy's confirmed like we yeah this is real real footage we don't know what the fuck it is we have no idea this did you see the pyramids there's these floating pyramids floating things I haven't seen it this is a reason when there's these there's a cluster of them but there's three of them that they got on video they're floating above this installation they have no idea what the fuck they are incredible they don't know how they're operating they don't know what they are so you're thinking like if we can't handle COVID we're going to really good against the aliens?

[2356] Well, that's what we're built for.

[2357] We're built for extraterrestrial problems.

[2358] No, we're fucked, man. There's no where we're going to handle it.

[2359] We're feeble, right?

[2360] Or we're fragile?

[2361] We're fragile.

[2362] We're bags of milk.

[2363] We're not just fragile physically.

[2364] More importantly, we're fragile in terms of our ability to overcome adversity.

[2365] Our ability to handle things and keep our composure.

[2366] Look, a bad cold, which is essentially where coronavirus is, it's terrible cold.

[2367] Kills a lot of people, but yeah.

[2368] It killed people.

[2369] It really exposed people's health problems more than anything right right that was ever the average person that died from COVID had 2 .6 morbidities okay so that means more than two and a half other problems whether it's a heart disease right cancer and that's and then COVID and then COVID killed them right but that's a it's not that it's not that we have a hard time with that it's just that we fell apart in terms of the way we communicate with each other like people went into a a panic.

[2370] You know, people, people started attacking people and becoming way more negative online.

[2371] And also, their identity and their time was way more wrapped up in having these Twitter battles.

[2372] People were Twitter battling with each other.

[2373] It's a lot.

[2374] Rather than, like, trying to establish some sense of community, getting your life in order, getting your health in order, and using this time, like some people, like Action Bronson use this time to lose 130 pounds and become a fitness fanatic you know and some people use this time like you did to build your businesses up and some people didn't do shit and some people just freaked out at the internet and some people just paralyzed they got more and more fearful and more and more paranoid and more and more angry and more and more and more aggressive and it's just weird and I think if something like the aliens came the only good thing that would come out of it is we'd realize how foolish, a lot of the arguments, a lot of the anger that we have are.

[2375] Well, it goes away once the big dogs come down.

[2376] All of a sudden, they roll up.

[2377] Is Will Smith here to help us?

[2378] I think Will needs his own help.

[2379] He needs help.

[2380] He needs help.

[2381] He's good at content.

[2382] Is he making a lot of...

[2383] I feel he makes a lot of content.

[2384] I bet he's making content right now.

[2385] But our real problem is that we don't know how to think and we don't know how to talk and we don't know how to communicate.

[2386] And so many people are just dumb and lazy.

[2387] Right.

[2388] And they're hoping that someone else is going to clean up the mess.

[2389] They're hoping that someone else is going to come along.

[2390] And then there's the reality of just getting hundreds of millions of people fed and heat and air conditioning and infrastructure.

[2391] Yeah, well here, yeah.

[2392] You know, like it is one of those things.

[2393] We're just not prepared for whatever.

[2394] Like, we're so used to being in our own, you know, worlds.

[2395] We have a narrow window that we can operate in.

[2396] And anything that goes outside of that narrow window, we fall apart.

[2397] Do you think, like, laser weaponry would help us?

[2398] Or do you think bullets would, like, nothing will help us?

[2399] This is going to be, like, us showing up in tanks and dealing with chimps.

[2400] Right.

[2401] Like, what are a chimp's going to do?

[2402] We roll up in tanks.

[2403] They're not going to do a goddamn thing.

[2404] They just go like this.

[2405] That's going to be what it's like if they come here.

[2406] If they decide.

[2407] Do you think they like us?

[2408] Pentagon UFO report.

[2409] They acknowledge the reality whistleblower says.

[2410] Louis Elizondo on blockbuster documents on UFOs.

[2411] Yeah, this is the show the video of the fucking CV.

[2412] What is it?

[2413] Is this the pyramids?

[2414] Yeah, these are these things that are flying the sky.

[2415] Yeah, they're flying.

[2416] See this three of them?

[2417] They were flying and these guys filmed it.

[2418] What was it over?

[2419] It was over something.

[2420] It was some Navy footage, but they're using night vision.

[2421] They're filming it through a cell phone.

[2422] They have no idea what these things are.

[2423] and they're just floating and flying around through, you know, they're obviously controlled.

[2424] They have some sort of a, they're piloted or, you know, a drone or something.

[2425] Like this is like, that should be triggering to some extent of like what's going on.

[2426] Like I'm sure they've been like preparing some kind of like.

[2427] They don't know what to do.

[2428] They don't know what to do.

[2429] They don't know what to do.

[2430] If you talk to anybody that's actually in the government, they'll tell you.

[2431] Yeah.

[2432] They don't know what to do.

[2433] They're like, we're cooked.

[2434] Because these things are moving.

[2435] I interviewed this guy as the most compelling.

[2436] story.

[2437] His name is Commander David Fravor.

[2438] Right.

[2439] And he was in 2004, which was 80 years ago, right?

[2440] Right.

[2441] That's my math.

[2442] No, 76.

[2443] 2004, it was off of the coast.

[2444] That's four years ago.

[2445] It was off the coast of San Diego.

[2446] And he encountered this thing.

[2447] They saw this thing that it looked like there was a ship underwater.

[2448] And so as they closed in on this, they saw this thing that was about the size of this room, like 20 feet, 30 feet long, something like that.

[2449] And it was shaped like a and it was somehow intelligently controlled.

[2450] It faced them and it blocked their radar, which is technically an act of war.

[2451] Right.

[2452] And then it moved off at such an insane rate of speed that they couldn't watch it.

[2453] And then it went to their...

[2454] They had an established destination point that they were eventually going to go to that was 30 miles away.

[2455] And this tick -tac thing flew to that spot.

[2456] So they took their information.

[2457] Yeah.

[2458] It was like, you're going here, I go there.

[2459] It went directly there, but it got there in a second, 30 miles away.

[2460] It went from 80 ,000 feet above sea level to one foot in less than a second.

[2461] They have no idea how fast because the radar blips like one second.

[2462] In that time, it went from 80 ,000 feet to one feet above sea level.

[2463] They don't know what it is.

[2464] There's so many different UFOs, right?

[2465] Well, I think this is a place where they go.

[2466] They're like, what's going down here with these idiots?

[2467] I used to do a joke that I think Earth, I think Earth is the Tijuana of outer space.

[2468] Right.

[2469] I think they come here when they're fucked up and they want to see a show.

[2470] They're like, what are those crazy pink monkeys with bang sticks up to?

[2471] Yeah, yes, yes.

[2472] And they come down here and they watch us be stupid.

[2473] They love it.

[2474] They're like, wait, give them social media.

[2475] Give them social media.

[2476] I think they're probably aware that we're on the verge of destroying Earth.

[2477] We could, at any given moment, with the wrong set of decisions and the wrong set of circumstances, we could blow up the Earth.

[2478] Yeah, we shouldn't blow up the earth.

[2479] The earth is great.

[2480] It's a pretty fucking awesome spot.

[2481] It's a great spot.

[2482] We've got to stop some things.

[2483] There's also...

[2484] We need a lot of people to do small little things.

[2485] There's also the wackiest theory.

[2486] The wackiest theory is that we are the product of accelerated evolution.

[2487] That's the wackiest theory.

[2488] Because they came down here, you know, whether it's Australia, Pithicus or some of the lower primates, and they intervened and did some genetic experiments and created us.

[2489] Now, one of the reasons why that's so interesting is because scientists...

[2490] recently just came out and admitted that they've made human monkey hybrid embryos.

[2491] Yes.

[2492] So these are real things that they've done.

[2493] And they said they did it under the guise of harvesting organs because we need organs so they're going to make these human monkey.

[2494] Just organ donors.

[2495] Yeah, exactly.

[2496] It's like KFC making chickens with like five legs.

[2497] Yeah, but if you're going to have an organ that a grown adult can use, you've got to make a grown adult.

[2498] That means you've got to make a grown adult monkey human hybrid so that you could take its liver out and you're like, what?

[2499] That's one, this seems like a lot for a liver.

[2500] I don't know how to cost, like, $100 ,000 to break your arm in, like, America?

[2501] Like, what, like, how much is that liver?

[2502] How much is the super monkey?

[2503] It's quite expensive, but that's, maybe they can make it cheaper if there are a lot of hybrid monkey people.

[2504] But the thing is, like, what if it's a human, what if it gets out?

[2505] Like, what if it's a human, what if it gets out, like, elitably?

[2506] What if it gets a gun?

[2507] Yes.

[2508] You know, these monkey, human hybrids go straight planet of the apes on us.

[2509] Like, the idea of us interfering with lower animals sounds arrogant and crazy.

[2510] So when we think about someone doing that to us, like an animal, like some being from another planet, coming down here and introducing its DNA into ours into what we used to be, into lower primates, and creating a person, sounds so arrogant and crazy.

[2511] Yeah.

[2512] But then you think of what we're actually doing with humans and monkeys.

[2513] Why aren't we?

[2514] We're doing that.

[2515] Clonage.

[2516] That is the oldest theory about the missing link with human beings.

[2517] They're just like somebody came down, put a needle in.

[2518] Yeah.

[2519] In fact, that was like one of the big, that was one of the big theories that this guy, Zechariah Sitchin, he used to write about.

[2520] Zechariah Sitchin is a guy who wrote, he wrote a bunch of books on the Sumerian text.

[2521] The Sumerian text is the oldest known, you know, it's Cuneiform, some of the oldest known written language.

[2522] And it's really fascinating shit because they had the double helix of DNA.

[2523] They drew that in their depictions for medicine.

[2524] You never seen that, you know, the thing when they have the two snakes that represents medicine?

[2525] Yeah, he believed that that was representing the double helix of DNA.

[2526] And there's images of that in a lot of their ancient stuff.

[2527] There's images of these gigantic beings that are holding these weird little monkey people on their lap.

[2528] There's a lot of evidence.

[2529] Well, it's not evidence.

[2530] It's just drawing.

[2531] Right.

[2532] You know, it could have been just someone making a comic book six thousand years ago.

[2533] But it could be they were trying to tell a story.

[2534] And they also had a detailed depiction of the solar system with all of the, this is six thousand years ago, right?

[2535] When a lot of people thought the world was flat.

[2536] They had it, and they do today too, some people.

[2537] I enjoy watching people explain that stuff.

[2538] That's amazing.

[2539] But they had a detailed depiction of the solar system six thousand years ago with the sun and all the planets, including Pluto.

[2540] And we didn't know about Pluto until 1930, right?

[2541] somewhere around then.

[2542] They knew Pluto.

[2543] They drew it.

[2544] They had a depiction of all the planets.

[2545] Jupiter, Mars, Saturn, Venus.

[2546] We can see it.

[2547] See if you find the original.

[2548] The depictions of...

[2549] So what they think, what this guy, Zechariah Sitchin and his believers think, is that they were trying to tell this story of how some beings came from another planet, manipulated human DNA.

[2550] Look at that.

[2551] Ah, look at that.

[2552] That's pretty wild.

[2553] So this is from, there's the sun and there's all the planets, and that one planet all the way over to the right in between them, they think that is this planet that they all came from.

[2554] It's called Nibiru.

[2555] And their story, again, this is Zechariah Sitchin's story, is that Nibiru was on an elliptical orbit, and every 3 ,600 years, it would come near Earth.

[2556] and they would come around and hop off and see what the fuck we're up to and then go back out.

[2557] See if you could find the depiction of ancient Sumerians with monkey people, monkey people hybrid because there's these weird clay tablets that show this like godlike creature with this little human type person with a tail.

[2558] But the person has a tail.

[2559] Which one?

[2560] That's an animal.

[2561] animal that's a good question there's so many they had a lot of wild shit they got so many things you know it's it's hard what is that that's a good one see you need that that's something you can have i don't think that's from uh sumer but it's fucking cool whatever it is find out what that is and let's get that for the studio look at that there's a better one bro look at that where's that from ancient aliens wow that's fucking killer that other one though what is that one right there that's the one i need for the studio what is that i don't think it is i think it is i think it's a I think it's a sculpture, an actual sculpture.

[2562] Get a bookmark, here's a better idea.

[2563] Get a bookmark of that and take that image and make it a photo on metal and put it in a studio, right?

[2564] Come on, son.

[2565] Yeah, but the actual thing's probably 7 ,000 years old.

[2566] We'd have to steal it.

[2567] We'd have to steal it.

[2568] We'd have the technology.

[2569] We'd have the technology.

[2570] We'd have to hire Daniel Craig to sneak in through the ceiling.

[2571] Daniel Craig!

[2572] Oh, my goodness.

[2573] I love Daniel Craig.

[2574] He's in good shape.

[2575] He's in very good shape.

[2576] He's the best James Bond of all time, agreed?

[2577] I believe so.

[2578] Come on.

[2579] There's no belief.

[2580] Well, I think he's the only one that seems.

[2581] Well, Connery, no?

[2582] Connery's no good.

[2583] No, not.

[2584] I think he's the best one where he's like the realist.

[2585] But it's like when Elvis was doing karate.

[2586] Yeah.

[2587] It's like, okay.

[2588] You know?

[2589] Yeah.

[2590] I think Daniel Craig is the realist.

[2591] Who's the new one?

[2592] Who's the new one?

[2593] They don't know yet.

[2594] They don't know.

[2595] Someone said Daniel Ratcliffe, the Harry Potter.

[2596] Harry Potter is.

[2597] Oh, that wouldn't be horrible.

[2598] that's what I'm that's fake news but I mean not that he's horrible it's like that can't be after Daniel Craig Daniel Craig looks like a straight up killer like you believe that he was an assassin but that's the thing double seven has to be able to kill yes you have to be yes especially in this modern age I want to go into a casino and like a magic door beautiful women talk to me you know like a guy with the tinfoil teeth and the hat weapon bladed hat that's what's up yeah imagine my secret agent are you a secret agent no That seems like a lot of work, and it would be really annoying, and you'd hardly sleep.

[2599] There's no sleep.

[2600] Then you'd have to be on sleep meds, and those aren't really good for you.

[2601] Get a body pillow, travel with a body pillow, just to sleep well?

[2602] How about those ones where your arm goes in a tunnel?

[2603] Oh, I need an arm tunnel.

[2604] Just like, do you know, you see those things?

[2605] No, I need one.

[2606] I sleep like, yeah.

[2607] I feel I sleep like that.

[2608] Cuddling with someone, because it's like the idea is that it protects your shoulder.

[2609] Oh, that's good.

[2610] Because you sleep.

[2611] Do you sleep like that?

[2612] How do you sleep?

[2613] Do you sleep just sleep?

[2614] You lay down.

[2615] No, I don't lay on my side.

[2616] Your side sleeper?

[2617] I get a sleep apnea if I sleep on my back.

[2618] Yeah, I snore.

[2619] How many times have you had your nose broken?

[2620] Oh, yeah.

[2621] Yeah, but I've had it fixed.

[2622] You've had it fixed.

[2623] Works great.

[2624] Breathing.

[2625] Not until I was 40.

[2626] Right.

[2627] When I was younger, I mean, I broke it so many times.

[2628] It was basically useless.

[2629] But then when I got it fixed, it was like the world changed for me. Yeah.

[2630] I tell everybody, if you have a deviated septim, if your nose is fucked up.

[2631] Oh, my God, get it fixed.

[2632] My nose is good.

[2633] All that coke cleaned it out.

[2634] And I didn't burn through it somehow.

[2635] That's amazing.

[2636] Breath work is important, right?

[2637] Oh, yeah.

[2638] You know Brian McKenzie?

[2639] Do you know him?

[2640] No. Brian McKenzie?

[2641] He's a breath guy.

[2642] What do you got, Jamie?

[2643] Oh.

[2644] I thought you said something.

[2645] I was so, I was like.

[2646] Trying to find that monkey person thing?

[2647] I think it's a depiction of the monkey king from Bali.

[2648] No, no, no, no, no. I know that one, too.

[2649] It's, um, looked for.

[2650] I found a different one that looked similar but different.

[2651] Oh, that's pretty.

[2652] That is pretty.

[2653] That is pretty.

[2654] That monkey king is fucking dope as shit.

[2655] But it's not that.

[2656] That's a different thing.

[2657] The monkey king's tight.

[2658] Fuck, that monkey king is bad ass.

[2659] What's that one in the lower right corner?

[2660] With the red?

[2661] The lower right.

[2662] Yeah.

[2663] Oh, wow.

[2664] There we go.

[2665] That's a monkey king mask.

[2666] That's pretty tight.

[2667] No, that's not, it is Anunaki.

[2668] Just Google.

[2669] I was trying to find out what this thing was.

[2670] Oh, okay.

[2671] I found a different picture, but it's also said it was like an Anonaki Monkey hybrid.

[2672] Oh.

[2673] Yeah.

[2674] No, no, no. No, there's, that's, that's, that looks very modern to me. If you can just Google clay tablet, Anunaki with Monkey.

[2675] So this website took me. Pinterest?

[2676] Just, just Google Clay tablet.

[2677] Let's look at how to retile your kitchen on Pinterest.

[2678] Sumerian tablet, right, right, Sumerian tablet.

[2679] Anunaki Oh yeah Let's save it Oh what is this site Ancient astronauts Wow, let's go Africa is woke Oh okay Ananaki Ancient Mesopotamia Mesopotamia?

[2680] Mesopotamia?

[2681] Mesopotamia seems nice It's just a bunch of articles though So I said I think If I could go If you can go back in time anywhere Any place and see what it was like like to live back then, where would you go?

[2682] Joe?

[2683] That's a good question.

[2684] I would love, I don't know.

[2685] I'm always so fixated on like Braveheart and like Highlander and just like Claymore shit and just being like, I just want to be like, I want to be like, I want to paint my face wear a kilt and like chuck a claymore at somebody.

[2686] You know, and just be like live in the mud.

[2687] Freedom.

[2688] Yeah, just run around.

[2689] Yeah.

[2690] And just like run around the high.

[2691] I think, like, that kind of stuff would be interesting.

[2692] And I'm like, I want to just, like, get my friends together and we're just like, we're going to fight the British.

[2693] We're going to free our country, maybe that kind of stuff.

[2694] Where it seems simpler.

[2695] Like, that kind of war seems like simple.

[2696] You know, a battle's like every six months.

[2697] You've got to walk, you know, a thousand miles, you know, and you just chill out and relax.

[2698] And then you're like, okay, there's 300 of us, four or five hundred of us.

[2699] We're going to fight a thousand of you.

[2700] You guys got got more arrows, but we're going to run.

[2701] We can run fast.

[2702] He got it planned out Yeah I'm just got to go back to Braveheart I'm pretty much I'm just like Braveheart Yeah Braveheart I don't know I think that would be Like why not Like we have all the technology in the world Let's go back to like What was the world Just before Facebook Yeah Where would you go Where would you?

[2703] I think I would go To one or two things Either I would go Ancient Egypt And see what it was like When they were Building the Pyramins Like what was civilization like because we lost so much of that when they burned the Aztec stuff yeah well the Mayans I would definitely go and the Aztes I would check that out but you know people were there and they have some pretty detailed depictions of those people back then like when Cortez came and the Spaniards came and yeah I would go to I think I would I think if I had to choose one it would be ancient Egypt but if I had to choose another one I think I might want to be I want to see what it was like when the settlers first encountered the Native Americans when they were making their way across North America.

[2704] Yeah, yeah.

[2705] Like when they first got to Texas and they met the Comanche.

[2706] Right, right.

[2707] I would love to see what it was like back then.

[2708] These people were just riding around on horseback shooting Buffalo and then all of some of these pale -faced motherfuckers show up.

[2709] Like, what was that like?

[2710] What the fuck?

[2711] What was the first encounters like between these settlers?

[2712] Did you love hostiles?

[2713] That movie Hostiles?

[2714] I didn't see it, I don't think.

[2715] No?

[2716] No, wasn't that?

[2717] Recent?

[2718] Yeah, dude, it's amazing.

[2719] like, um, it's about, you know, like two adversaries, kind of like, um, one, one chief is going to be brought back to his, uh, what was this?

[2720] What year is this?

[2721] Dude, dude, 2007.

[2722] No shit.

[2723] Christian Bale.

[2724] Oh yeah, dude.

[2725] This movie is incredible.

[2726] So, so, so, you know, West, uh, Studi here, he's like, you know, some, some, like, iconic warrior.

[2727] And then versus, you know, uh, Christian Bale's character.

[2728] and it's about them bring he has cancer so the chief has cancer and it's about being like I'm gonna die anyways my I have no fight left I want to just be on my land when I die I want to die in my home and that woman's in it what's her name Rosamond Pike she's really good too she's like gone girl she's great and everything yeah gone girl yeah she was also in I care a lot yeah did you see I care a lot no fucking crazy what's the one with the Ben Affleck movie too she's the one who kills him yeah gone girl okay she doesn't kill him right no no she fucks with kills a bunch of other people yeah she's good in that she's crazy as fuck yeah yeah she's like the new sure and stuff yeah but like more intense more intense yeah she's and i care a lot and she plays a psycho in that movie too she plays a great psycho this movie she she's like she's crushed because her family gets murdered they get murdered by by um you know some native americans and and And then they find, that troop find her when they're bringing back the chief.

[2729] They come across her who's like shook holding her like, you know, shot baby still.

[2730] It's so heavy.

[2731] But that movie is like just slow rolling, like it's two old kind of warriors coming to terms and like fighting the war at the end.

[2732] But they have to return like one warrior has to return this chief to, you know, or a soldier I shouldn't say, but like a soldier returning a chief to his land that they just had this great war, you know, the.

[2733] horrible fucking war but it's just like you know like it's a great movie hostiles hostiles because i know that you're really into all that yeah i'm in native american stuff yeah i'm just into ancient civilizations i'm into ancient egypt i mean ancient africa those people would hate us right yeah they wouldn't those ancient like like you fucking slops like what are you idiots doing you're shit all over the place and ruining the earth and and they're not doing good everywhere you go eat vegetables polluting just make gold necklaces and have nice times Yeah, I don't know.

[2734] I just would have loved to have seen what their culture was like.

[2735] Because we just, we just guess about that, you know, thousands and thousands of years ago making these insane structures just to hold up today.

[2736] Yeah, just hundreds of thousands of people just building these pyramids, pulling the stones.

[2737] Stonehenge.

[2738] Where do they come from?

[2739] Where did they come from?

[2740] Stonehenge is crazy, but it's not as crazy.

[2741] No. Like what?

[2742] That's just a couple rocks.

[2743] The Great Pyrene of Geese has 2 ,300 ,000 stones.

[2744] And they came, they didn't come from there.

[2745] Some of them were from hundreds of miles away.

[2746] The ones inside the king's chamber, they're huge.

[2747] Have you been to the pyramids?

[2748] No. You've never been in the mirror?

[2749] No, the closest I've been to is I've seen the Mayan temples at Cheechan Nica.

[2750] That was pretty wild.

[2751] That's pretty wild.

[2752] Like, you just imagine what it was like just being around these structures when they were filled with people, these people running this.

[2753] Navigating that life back then, like in that space.

[2754] Yeah, they were living in this society where their buildings where there were, uh, aligned to constellations like they were so tuned into the stars that they that's how they had there was earth and then the sky right sky must have been magnificent but you could see everything there was no light yeah you know there was no light you could see everything the canvas was there let me ask you something okay where was like the scariest place where did you feel like in the world traveling around where was the place where you were like this most scared for a person who can take care of himself you know like where was a place like where you're traveling like this is sketchy this is like a place where i'm like shit like you know like where was the place where you felt most scared well the scariest place is always the woods yeah because you're so vulnerable like you know if you encounter a bear or a mountain lion or you know that's the scariest yeah but it's also in some ways like the most humbling and peaceful and and and enchanting right there's something about the purity of nature where nature doesn't give a fuck what your plans are.

[2755] No. Like when you're out there on a mountain top and you're out looking out, part of what's amazing about it is the humbling of yourself that comes about.

[2756] You gain this intense humility because you're around this inescapable beauty.

[2757] And also the vast spance of ground and the mountains.

[2758] And then you're looking out there in this elk or fighting to the death and the mountain lines right in a jack -um and then a bear's waiting to scare the mountain line off the catch and just too much it's scary it's why you just you feel so vulnerable but it's also ironically the most beautiful and like the most welcoming have you gone have you hunted alone like have you done the thing where you're like I'm gonna go out there alone and like do like a weekend no I've never done that no is that crazy town that's crazy town I have a bunch of friends who do it all the time like my buddy Shane Dorian he's a big wave surfer he loves going on those solo hunts.

[2759] He'll just go on, like pack a shit, go in.

[2760] Yeah, he brings a satellite phone in case he breaks his leg.

[2761] Right.

[2762] And then he'll go out there and that's something you really have to think about.

[2763] He's out there.

[2764] You're fucking dead.

[2765] Oh my gosh.

[2766] You know?

[2767] And if they can't find you by the time your phone runs out of battery, you're dead.

[2768] You're not getting out.

[2769] No, you're dead.

[2770] And something's going to eat you.

[2771] And now they're reintroducing wolves into places like Colorado and Montana.

[2772] Get them back in there.

[2773] Let's bring them back.

[2774] And so then you're dead even quicker.

[2775] Yeah, the wolves scare me. We've got lots of coyotes.

[2776] We have big coyotes where I am, and they're like, it's not like L .A. coyotes.

[2777] These are, like, big, like...

[2778] They're eating moose and shit.

[2779] They're eating some, some mooses and some deers.

[2780] Like, the other day, we found, like, a whole carcass, like, a half -eaten carcass of, like, a whole deer in our front yard.

[2781] So we got, you know, whatever, a couple acres.

[2782] Yeah.

[2783] And we got about six acres of, like, forest on our property.

[2784] Attached to other people's forest and stuff like that.

[2785] And there's so many...

[2786] It was incredible.

[2787] Like, Mac was just, like, running around our front yard.

[2788] It was like, started, like, screaming.

[2789] Like, wow, wow, check this out.

[2790] Like, he was so stoked.

[2791] He was like, check this out.

[2792] He's like, can I touch it?

[2793] I was like, whoa, what's going on?

[2794] And then all of a sudden, I got closer.

[2795] I was like, no, don't touch this.

[2796] I was just like, do not touch this.

[2797] And it was just like a fucking, we didn't hear anything or anything.

[2798] We just like, it was just like they ate.

[2799] It was incredible.

[2800] Like, they still hadn't eaten one of the legs.

[2801] And it was so weird because it was still snowy out too.

[2802] So this is like, you know, about a month ago when they were still snow and it was crazy because I I'm watching looking at the you know the half -eaten deer and I'm like there's no blood anywhere and I was just like where was this taken down and then so now I was like mac we got to find like the blood he's like what's the blood I was like well when when animals are eaten or when we cut ourselves or whatever even like when you get a paper cut you know the blood that comes out it's like yeah I was like well when this is when this was eaten by these the coyotes there would be a lot of blood somewhere so there's going to be a lot of blood on on the snow.

[2803] So let's walk around the property.

[2804] And so we were like walking around and it was like my daughter, my wife and my son and we're just like cruising around.

[2805] And then Trish was the first, she's like, it's over here.

[2806] And then there's just like all the fur, all the blood.

[2807] And Mack was so interested.

[2808] It's so crazy.

[2809] He's five.

[2810] And he's so obsessed with eyes and if people are alive or dead.

[2811] Like if he was to meet you, he's like, are you alive?

[2812] And you're just like, oh, I'm alive.

[2813] But he's just He's like, have you ever died?

[2814] And it's like, he's so, like, kids are so funny with the shit that they say.

[2815] And he'll just be like, he's like, let me see your eyes.

[2816] He's like, you got a lot of blood in your, because he's obsessed with like these blood vessels.

[2817] Like he'll always be like, take a closer, you know, you can just keep zooming in on your phone.

[2818] He's like, I'll zoom in on his eyes.

[2819] And he's like, let me look, let me look.

[2820] And he's like, oh.

[2821] And he just like loves, like, it's so weird what kids love and what they're interested in.

[2822] It's so interesting in them learning things too, right?

[2823] Well, the thing, too, is like, we're bringing them up.

[2824] It's funny because, like, my wife is Italian, Irish, right?

[2825] And so her mother, very religious, you know?

[2826] And none of our kids are baptized.

[2827] We're not bringing them up with any kind of religion whatsoever.

[2828] And it's an interesting thing because, like, he'll watch, like, TV shows, and they'll mention, like, things about God.

[2829] Or I'll say, like, oh, my God, or whatever.

[2830] I'll say things like that.

[2831] And he's just like, what is all that?

[2832] And I was just like, well, some people believe in that there's, like, a higher power and, like, there's, like, a soul, and there's all these kind of things.

[2833] And I was just, like, you know, it's an interesting thing to talk to, like, young kids about that because they really soak it up, right?

[2834] And I'm just, like, learning, like, not to talk too much about stuff, some stuff, but, like, but, like, the, Tricia, she loves talking about everything with them.

[2835] That's such a, it's so interesting to see her, like, really engage and, like, describe, like, what, like, murder is.

[2836] Or describe, like, you're watching something.

[2837] He's, like, what is that?

[2838] And, like, Tricia will be like, well, that's when, like, somebody, like, like, kill somebody.

[2839] and they didn't like them and then they killed them and it's not good to kill anybody though and you're just like what's happening it's crazy is like he's only been alive for five years yeah just think about yourself five years ago you're basically the same guy yeah you know there's not much difference from me five years ago and me today no you know it's but a five year old kid five years ago he didn't know jack shit and now he's asking you about eyes and are you dead yeah you know he's like putting it all together yeah that's wild it is like I just love like the I don't know they're so funny kids like I'm just like I really enjoy like just hanging out with like you know like it's one of those things where I was just like I always knew that I like wanted kids and like wanted this stuff but I was just like I don't know how it will fit in with my you know whole thing right like it's such a different thing where like you're your own individual your relationship with your wife and your partner and then like your children and how does that all work and like Louis CK gave me some real good advice once about that he said just let it change you yeah It's wisdom in a sentence.

[2840] Just let it change you.

[2841] Yeah.

[2842] And I'm like, yeah.

[2843] That's what happens, too.

[2844] It just changes you.

[2845] It's a wave.

[2846] But it's like you were talking about before where you're trying to hold on to your identity of being a partier.

[2847] Yeah.

[2848] You know, that that was your identity.

[2849] You know, there's a lot of people that have this idea of who they are, and then all of a sudden they have children, and then they change.

[2850] It changes you.

[2851] And it has to.

[2852] It makes you, like, so hard and so soft at the same time.

[2853] You know what's really sad when it doesn't change you?

[2854] Yeah.

[2855] Because I know guys that doesn't change them.

[2856] And those guys are sad.

[2857] And they drift away from their family.

[2858] They get divorced.

[2859] They don't raise their kids.

[2860] And it's just like there's a disconnect for them that is just unimaginable.

[2861] Yeah, it's unimaginable.

[2862] I can't imagine not loving the kids.

[2863] It's like it is a crazy thing because it's like the craziest thing too, now that we're just talking about kids.

[2864] But it's just like one of the things that makes me crazy or not crazy, But the growth of the love and the connection, because it's like one of the, I said, I mentioned that earlier where it's just like when, and we did very intense home births, beautiful, very lucky to have like, you know, no breaches or no nothing and they were very, you know, trished at all the work.

[2865] What do you do if there is a breach if you do in a home pregnancy?

[2866] Do you just get into hospital quick?

[2867] Yeah, like we have like one midwife and we did a dula for the first one and then we literally didn't have anybody.

[2868] It was just like me and the mid -wife for Rizzo and Ozzy.

[2869] And then, so, yeah, if something goes down, then you just call the EMS.

[2870] And then you have a thing set up.

[2871] When you're close to the hospital still?

[2872] No, well, at the farm, we're like 45 minutes.

[2873] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[2874] Fuck that.

[2875] What if, like, the obelical cord's wrapped?

[2876] Fucking.

[2877] Unwrap it?

[2878] Unwrap it.

[2879] Get in there with your fists?

[2880] I'll fucking, I'll fucking do anything.

[2881] I'll take it out.

[2882] But the, da, da, yeah, fucking kids.

[2883] But the thing that I was trying to say is that the, you know, like the magic of television and, like, our brains are like, the second it comes out, you have this an eternal love.

[2884] Where you do have that eternal love, but the love really grows.

[2885] Where, like, instantly, I felt very, like, connect.

[2886] I was like, oh, my God, this is a baby.

[2887] And it's like one of those things where it was so weird, like, you have to teach yourself to, because I grew up, I didn't really have pets.

[2888] So I'm like, I was like, oh, my God, I have to, like, what's the name of the kid?

[2889] Like, for the first few days, I was like, what the name is our kid?

[2890] again, MacArthur?

[2891] Okay, MacArthur, you know?

[2892] Like, I was just, like, had to, like, get into this thing of, like, naming a child and, like, being like, it was just such a, it's such an interesting, ongoing thing where you're like, now Mac is, is such a fucking, you know, powerhouse.

[2893] But it is.

[2894] It feels surreal, too, right?

[2895] Oh, my God.

[2896] It doesn't feel real.

[2897] Like, even to this day, you know, I'll talk to my 12 -year -old.

[2898] We'll have a little conversation.

[2899] I'm like, are you fucking real?

[2900] Yeah.

[2901] Like, are you really come out of some, my DNA?

[2902] And, dude.

[2903] How's that possible?

[2904] Yeah, it's possible.

[2905] Talking and laughing.

[2906] And then they exhibit personality traits that are real similar to yours.

[2907] And you're like, wow.

[2908] Oh, my God.

[2909] This is nuts.

[2910] My son, my parents are like, it is eerie, how Mac is like you.

[2911] He is a fireball.

[2912] And he's so sweet.

[2913] And he's so, like, it's just like one of those things.

[2914] Keep him away from Coke.

[2915] Yeah, I know.

[2916] Well, everyone's on their own path, too.

[2917] Like, because I was so, I was just like, you know, I've put so many, like, intentions into just being like, I just hope he doesn't have that, like, addict blood.

[2918] And I'm like, like, he's got all my blood he's me this guy's a psychopath i was just like hopefully you know we we just give them the tools to to be able to make the right decisions you know yeah like that's the thing is like i'm not caught up and like you know i i like i'm like i'm like i want my kid to be this and i want my kid to be a good person that can make good decisions good like i think that's the best you can do you just want your kids to be happy human beings you know and they don't have the saddest thing is when someone has expectations for their children that aren't their children's hopes yeah and dreams and they forced them on their kids ruins both it poises the well on both and it it fucks up the relationship to yeah i've seen it with with friends where their dads are upset at them because they're not living the life that the dad wanted for them i came motherfucker you know like you're my dad you're not you don't own me you're not my owner yeah i didn't ask to be here yeah i didn't ask you here bro you got to let your kids be who the fuck they are man yeah and you can't help them too much either no you got to you got to stay away you got to let them find their own little path.

[2919] Well, that's the thing.

[2920] Because if you do, you know, you hold their hand too much, not good.

[2921] I even said, I was like, Tresh, I really want you to know, like 19, they're out.

[2922] They're out of the house.

[2923] Like, it's when they're - Go buy your own Coke.

[2924] Yeah.

[2925] Go, go crash your own cars.

[2926] Do whatever you want to do, but get out of here.

[2927] Because I was just like, that's my biggest thing.

[2928] It's like, I want them to live their life.

[2929] I want them to make mistakes.

[2930] I want them to fall down.

[2931] I want them to be able to learn how to pick themselves back up.

[2932] I want, like, where it says, like, I come from, you know, we make a lot of mistakes you know and there was no one there I had a lot of beautiful support mentally but like there's no like financial support from my family or anything like that really you know so you're going to stay up there in Canada what if they lock down harder what if they keep going the rest of the world's free I don't know like fuck my farm's pretty tight I got enough land like fuck I grow vegetables it's pretty fucking tight like it's pretty cool dude I'm like so like that's sufficient yeah I'm so like I can grow enough vegetables to feed my family all year around.

[2933] Do you have animals up there too?

[2934] Not yet.

[2935] You gonna?

[2936] I don't know.

[2937] It's a lot of responsibility.

[2938] A couple of my time.

[2939] Yeah, just like one bison?

[2940] I don't have that much property.

[2941] A couple bison's are sick of them.

[2942] You have a couple bison, then you can feed those fuckers.

[2943] You could eat one of them for two years.

[2944] Dude, a bison is so incredible.

[2945] I fucking did a show where we went to a bison ranch.

[2946] And we got to ride four -wheelers alongside like a herd.

[2947] And it is thunderous.

[2948] Oh, yeah.

[2949] To ride on these four -wheelers with his bison rancher and it was like the most beautiful thing ever and all of a sudden he was just like just you got to stay they will come at you because you're a moving target too Right so like there's even a threatening yeah well it's just like you're a machine they know that you're not a bison and but but riding along it was like 250 bison Oh my God and like he was like check this out he's like just follow me and he and I was like okay and he's like getting closer and he starts going faster and all of a sudden They just start running and start running.

[2950] And then all of a sudden he's like, and he fucking has this big noise -making thing and he lets it off.

[2951] And all of a sudden it's like, and they're going, they can run like 60 miles an hour almost.

[2952] Holy shit.

[2953] And so it's just like, it's so fat.

[2954] Like I have to like reef on the four -wheeler to like keep up with these bison, this pack of bison or herd of bison.

[2955] And it was like the most intense.

[2956] Why do you keep saying bison?

[2957] Bison.

[2958] Bison?

[2959] Bison.

[2960] Bison.

[2961] I say bison.

[2962] There's no E -Y -E in there I'm from Canada What do you say I'm a bagel guy too Oh boy you got problems Baggle?

[2963] I say bagel I'm a bagel guy It's a fucking bagel man I know it's bagel I said the exact same way You get a bat I'm a milk I'm a milk You put your bag You put your bag You buy three of them out of fucking time Milk Milk?

[2964] Milk?

[2965] Milk?

[2966] Milk?

[2967] I don't know I got like a speech impediments You don't have a speech.

[2968] There's no A's?

[2969] No, take off, A. Fucking A. Fuck it.

[2970] Get fucking straight.

[2971] Fuck.

[2972] Well, dude, we're at the three hour mark.

[2973] Believe it or not.

[2974] This is three hours?

[2975] Yeah, we did three hours.

[2976] I have to piss so bad.

[2977] I know you, I can tell.

[2978] I see you're shifting around.

[2979] My little fucking pecker is just bursting.

[2980] My foreskin's like tied up.

[2981] Oh, my God.

[2982] This is a lot of fun, man. Joe Rogan, I've been experienced.

[2983] Is that what they say at the end?

[2984] No, but now that you did, I hope nobody else does.

[2985] Dude, we talked about it, dude.

[2986] We talked about a lot of shit.

[2987] I appreciate it.

[2988] I enjoyed it very much.

[2989] Hey, thank you.

[2990] And I appreciate you, man. You're a good dude.

[2991] You're a fun guy.

[2992] Thank you.

[2993] And tell everybody how they can listen to powerful truth angels and how they could see your YouTube stuff and all your jazz.

[2994] Well, you know, you can go to Maddie Matheson.

[2995] I think just Google Maddie Madison and YouTube, subscribe, like, fucking, you know.

[2996] Is that on YouTube as well?

[2997] Powerful Truth Angels?

[2998] Yeah.

[2999] It's its own page.

[3000] We almost got 10 ,000.

[3001] No, we just beat.

[3002] Yeah, we're over 10 ,000 subscribers, Joe.

[3003] Congratulations.

[3004] Yeah, we're going to get a plaque soon, probably.

[3005] Yeah, I'm doing really well, actually, Joe, so thank you so much.

[3006] Yeah, I don't know how to find me. Google me. I don't fucking.

[3007] I'm the worst plugger.

[3008] I'm the anti -plugger.

[3009] I don't get a fuck.

[3010] I'll plug you because I think you're awesome.

[3011] I really do enjoy your shows.

[3012] I enjoy your cooking.

[3013] I enjoy your enthusiasm, personality.

[3014] You're fun dude, man. I really enjoy.

[3015] Well, do this again.

[3016] We'll do it again.

[3017] We'll do it again.

[3018] We'll come back soon.

[3019] We'll do it again.

[3020] We'll come back soon.

[3021] We'll do it live.

[3022] I'm fucking, let's go.

[3023] Woo!