#241 - James Bobo Fay

[0] Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

[1] Dude, that's a new one.

[2] I'm not sure I like it.

[3] That new fade out you do at the end, you crafty devil.

[4] That's a squatch trained dog, ladies and gentlemen.

[5] If you hear a dog or see a dog, if you're watching us on Ustream or Vimeo, you see a dog in the background, that is actually a squatch trained dog.

[6] And this is an official...

[7] Squatch Tracking.

[8] Squatch hat.

[9] This is a gone squatching hat.

[10] Can you sell these?

[11] Because if you don't, you should.

[12] Because they'll sell like fucking crazy.

[13] I blew it.

[14] I thought Animal Planet trademarked it.

[15] They thought I did.

[16] Oh, so nobody did?

[17] Did somebody else trademark it?

[18] Why some guy in Taiwan now.

[19] Oh, those sons of bitches.

[20] Just fucking sell it and make them sue you.

[21] Because everybody would want an official bobo gone squatching hat.

[22] They sold tens of thousands on Cafe Press.

[23] Cafe Press, though, like anybody could go on Cafe Press and pretty much like make your own shirt, though, right?

[24] Yeah.

[25] Last time I looked, there was like 670 websites.

[26] selling those hats.

[27] Oh, that's hilarious.

[28] I know.

[29] Dude, you've created, like, are you looking at your Twitter right now?

[30] I fucking, oh, sorry.

[31] I promised my buddy I had texted when it started because they're driving.

[32] Are you trying to text them right now?

[33] I just say it's on.

[34] It's on.

[35] When I was a little kid, I went camping with my parents.

[36] I was probably, like, six, and we were in Yosemite.

[37] And I met a dude who was a trapper.

[38] It gave me, like, some stinky fucking feet of, like, Almost he, like, killed, like, bobcats and stuff.

[39] But when you're six, it's fuck, it's badass.

[40] And you're like, whoa, this is cool.

[41] But, you know, that's when I got obsessed with Bigfoot was talking to this guy.

[42] Because he, he, uh, he, a hundred percent believed in Sasquatches.

[43] And he, I remember he was six, I was six years old when he told him this.

[44] He was just saying that the woods are so dense.

[45] There's no way everybody's been to every part of it.

[46] Yeah.

[47] There's no way.

[48] He's like, if you draw, if you fly over the Pacific Northwest, I guess that's the only time where you really get a true sense.

[49] of how dense it is because we kind of think of it like especially the Pacific Northwest we kind of think of it as like you know yeah there's Seattle and there's Portland there's some cities up there and I guess there's highways dude a giant chunk of that is just fucking dense rainforest oh yeah a lot people are not aware of that and that's where the that's the majority of sightings in America right um the most but what people trip on is they're all their continent wide they're worldwide.

[50] How is it possible that something could be kind of why and the only video footage available in 2012 is that shitty Patterson film?

[51] Whoa!

[52] Patterson, I think he's a fraud dude.

[53] No!

[54] What happened?

[55] Who is the camera?

[56] You think it's real?

[57] I was just with Bob Gimlin.

[58] That was a very emotional response.

[59] See that?

[60] If you were to sit your dad out of the table.

[61] No, I'm saying wasn't Patterson known to be a con man?

[62] Listen, I believe.

[63] I believe.

[64] believe firmly, Jane Goodall believes 100 % if there's a Sasquatch.

[65] I believe very firmly it's very possible.

[66] I think that if they found one, all of a sudden people would start, you know, it would make sense to people.

[67] There's all sorts of primates all over this planet.

[68] And they know that gigantopithecus lived with people in Asia, like, you know, thousands and thousands and thousands of years ago.

[69] And the real legit scientists that talk about Bigfoot say it's very possible that an animal came down with humans during the Bering Strait.

[70] But, you know, realized humans are cunts.

[71] They're a pain in the ass.

[72] They're fucking shoot you.

[73] They stab you.

[74] They make rugs on you.

[75] Let's hide.

[76] Exactly.

[77] Let's go hide in the woods.

[78] Show me a big animal that we don't kill out in the woods.

[79] It's true.

[80] But how, oh, we would definitely kill one for sure.

[81] Well, they have been killed.

[82] There's a guy who's on YouTube right now.

[83] I'm subscribed to the Bigfoot report on YouTube, you know, whenever the new video comes up.

[84] They'll send me an email.

[85] But there's a guy who claims he killed Bigfoot.

[86] He did.

[87] You really think so?

[88] I bought that camera because I got invited to go on the body recovery mission last year, and it's a real story.

[89] But where's the body?

[90] What happened was, I'll just give it rundown real quick.

[91] I'm actually friends of the guy.

[92] I thought I'd never be friends of the guy that shot a Squatch.

[93] He shot the baby, right?

[94] Yeah, he shot a Dole and a baby.

[95] First, what happened, they were doing, they were driving, they were doing a U -turn.

[96] They just saw a warden, and they were doing a U -turn, and they were doing a U -turn whip, and the Sierra Nevada was about 85.

[97] 500 feet and it was like Halloween I think or the day before Halloween.

[98] The Sierra Nevada's or in California?

[99] Where is it?

[100] The huge mountains like Tahoe?

[101] Right.

[102] All the way down like Curran County.

[103] What is it?

[104] Yeah they run from Curran County up to like Oregon border basically.

[105] Okay.

[106] And that's not that area though like Northern California.

[107] It's like 400 miles long and 50 miles wide.

[108] That's a big, big foot siding area right?

[109] Oh yeah, yeah.

[110] So this guy didn't believe in Bigfoot or anything.

[111] He's total redneck like kills it like likes to just kill shit out in the woods.

[112] Right.

[113] And the big adult came out with waving its hands and wiggling its fingers.

[114] They'll wave their hands and wiggle their fingers to show that they're not bears, we think.

[115] I mean, they're pretty smart.

[116] They're like people.

[117] So he draws a beat on.

[118] His buddy had just come back, this guy Jack had just come back from Iraq and Afghanistan combat vet.

[119] And like, he just was over seeing stuff shot.

[120] He's like, first he said, don't shoot it.

[121] It could be a person in a suit.

[122] And Cheston was looking through the scope and he's looking at it going, it's not a person.

[123] He could see it through the scope.

[124] It was a squatch.

[125] But it wasn't one of those big buff ones.

[126] it looked real frumpy kind of like saggy like wasn't sure if it was older or what so he started squeezing one off and when the thing realized he was going to pull the trigger because they were locking eyes he turned and he shot it through the ribs like lung shot and it dropped went down like to a sprinter position then got up and sprinted super fast stumbled once and then went crashing down this manzanita well they get out of the truck and they're walking on their trip they never even thought a big foot they're walking under their trip they're walking under their trip they're walking under their ripping balls like they just saw a huge thing they called it a monster shot it it ran off they're looking for the they heard it crash down on the brush this guy's a registered bear hunting guide so he said he could tell it you know that that was the sound it makes when it crashes well they got about 40 yards it was about 70 80 yards when he shot it they got about 40 yards there and right where the thing was around two identical twin babies like the size of like three or four year old kids but with way bigger heads came out came out of the brush and we're running around looking for like the parent and they were running back and forth he was going to shoot one of the babies right off the bat and his buddy wouldn't let him like kept yelling don't do it I'll kick your ass you shoot that thing don't shoot it things were running around for like 10 minutes they couldn't find the adult and they realized okay there's two babies and they were identical twins they'd run around they'd sniff the ground and look around on all fours like totally totally comfortable on all fours like quadruped you know just run around when they came near each other they'd get up on two legs and they'd come up face to face and he said they sound like two profoundly mute people talking, they go, um, like just real guttural sounds, but like he said, like a language, and they'd get back down, they were moving down, and they were working their way towards where they heard the body crash, and they realized well, shit, they thought it was, they shot the mom, so they're like, well, if we just shot the mom, and then daddy's probably around, like, this thing's eight foot, what they shot was probably eight foot tall, 600 pounds.

[127] So I think, well, shit's getting dark, we want to go here.

[128] And Jack and Justin split up, because they're covering different territory, and one of the little babies came, like, wow, that wall is and just stood on this rise we went to the spot with him we went like dr meldrum went and mine chinsky like the big name guys scientists we went out there when the snow melted the next summer are these the big name guys that believe in bigfuss oh yeah yeah well no believes for shit you can't see right well they know it exists well like people believe in jesus but i never found like a jesus hair or a jesus track or a jesus shit in the woods you know or or jesus kill the elk or anything but what have you found personally so you're saying let's go finish the story because this guy shot one of the babies.

[129] First of all, what a dick.

[130] I know.

[131] That's such a shit.

[132] He feels bad now, but I...

[133] I could even tell that story, you know?

[134] Yeah.

[135] Why the fuck would you shoot a baby?

[136] I know, dude.

[137] Well, he wanted to prove the story was real.

[138] He's just a redneck dude that kills shit for fun.

[139] Yeah.

[140] That kind of mindset.

[141] You know, he's not a bad dude.

[142] That's just how he was raised.

[143] And he's actually a smart dude when he gets to talk to him.

[144] Because he's just some dumb shit redneck.

[145] When you talk to the guy, he's pretty sharp.

[146] but why didn't he take a video why didn't they didn't have a camera he didn't have a cell phone with him i did you're pretty red now 2012 yeah this was october 2000 whatever 11 10 right how could you not have a cell phone i did i'm not as justifying what he did i'm just saying i watched this video my bullshit alarm went off oh no dude well i'll tell you i'll say what happened so he shot it and the thing it rolled down the hill he picked it up and looked and just watched it die in its hands and then he then his buddy kept started screaming at him he he he's not he started screaming at him he He said he stuck the body into this bush.

[147] They took off, got out of there, and they were on a hunting website, and one of our buddies, Derek Randall's, like, you know, talked to him on the website, whatever, like a chat room for hunters.

[148] He's like, I shot a couple.

[149] Kind of joke and said, how would you mount a big foot?

[150] And then he's all, no, I really did, I really did.

[151] He's all, dude, you look at that body.

[152] I'll give you a million dollars.

[153] Right, but all you have right now is just the guy with a story.

[154] No, no. He came back and brought, when he picked up the baby, it bled on his boot.

[155] So there's blood on the boot from the baby.

[156] when they went back out there and snowed like three and a half feet and they're digging six by six foot holes down through the snow they're out there for like i forget what he said like eight hours digging digging and then his bloodhound they found where they thought it was crash they found it and like there's like when it's like a mammal dives like how all the grease comes up the ass like it lays like a grease slick there and they found out there was it looked like a bear had fed on it because there was just torn up and there was actually some bear prints in the snow as they dug through they'd see like which does happen and animal that dies in the woods yeah yeah so they always say you know when was the last time you saw a dead deer in the woods they don't last very long right if they're there a couple of days something finds it oh yeah it starts getting torn up and then like rodents eat the bones porky pines eat the bones like whatever and so um where was that so they went back out there his bloodhound puppy found a chunk of meat and flesh he couldn't tell it looked it looked like the same colors he got and it was like uh like a I saw it's like grayish white with brown mixed in like kind of multicolored And it's weird coarse hair and it matches.

[157] And anyways, that is the catalyst of, I mean, the centerpiece of the DNA study is that piece of meat.

[158] That's the first one they got because it snowed right on it.

[159] That was the first whole.

[160] And what is it, have they done an analysis of it?

[161] They've mapped the whole genome.

[162] What is it?

[163] It's what the guys that are working on it called is a relic hominid.

[164] And it's not a giganticopithecus.

[165] Really?

[166] So they're 100 % convinced it's not a chimp.

[167] It's not any other kind of animal.

[168] Yeah.

[169] Word.

[170] No, no, word leaked out.

[171] Who is this guy that has done this study?

[172] It's a woman named Melba Ketchum.

[173] Uh -huh.

[174] And there's a lot of controversy around her.

[175] And there's some weird stuff about her for sure, like things she's done and said.

[176] She's crazy?

[177] No, I don't, no. She's a woman.

[178] She's a woman.

[179] There you go.

[180] I was glad you said that.

[181] How many cats does she own?

[182] How many crystals are around her neck?

[183] She's cool, but she's a, you know, genetic lab.

[184] It has a big genetic lab.

[185] She, anyway, she's well known.

[186] What's her, what's the issue that people have with her?

[187] Well, because.

[188] Because she had to come up with new, God, what they?

[189] I don't want to start talking too much detail.

[190] When I read it, I understand, I had people explain.

[191] A business scandal?

[192] Was it a...

[193] No, no, no. Well, I'll just say this.

[194] From that, now Oxford University is doing a study over in England.

[195] On the same...

[196] Well, I think they're getting some of that.

[197] I mean, I'm not sure because I hear stuff from different people.

[198] Uh -huh.

[199] And I was just with the guys that are running the DNA project this last week.

[200] Right.

[201] Last week.

[202] I just left them two days ago.

[203] and uh but um there's other labs that are do you have to like go through peer review and they have to like you give them a sample they do the same test but she had come up with these new techniques that hadn't been used before and and so the other labs that authenticate that then re -replicate the process and you have to replicate it twice each other lab and the word is is and like there's other scientists getting on board because words leaked around in the community of those type geneticists and stuff is that it's it's real like there's it's it's really close to human like whereas chimps and and gorillas have 98 .91 % the same amount of the same DNA we have these are 99 .5 99 .6 the samples from asia the yetis or 99 .4 to 99 .5 so what are the yety samples what were they proven to be uh well so that was the thing was that there's these genetic markers they're they're really similar to they're like a type of people like they're The whole, that evolutionary chain they have, you know, is way out of whack.

[204] I wasn't aware that there was this much conclusive evidence, though.

[205] I'd never read this before.

[206] Yeah, people.

[207] Do you talk about it on the show?

[208] You know what?

[209] It's so aggravating.

[210] It's real frustrating because we were like, you guys never put any real science in the show?

[211] They're like, yeah, and I used to get in fights to them.

[212] And I actually quit the show a bunch of times, like season one, like in between season one and season two.

[213] Really?

[214] Yeah.

[215] Yeah, I was, I was like, this isn't what I signed up for, you know, like some hokey -ass reality show.

[216] What was wrong?

[217] What would you sign up for?

[218] Well, like they wouldn't, like, we got some, you know, audio, we got some, we've got audio and stuff captured.

[219] And when you run through spectrograph, you can rule out, you can rule stuff out, you know, and a lot of times you'll get left with, the only thing that matches it would be like a, like a howler monkey or something or a gibbon.

[220] And then it goes out of range of that even.

[221] You know, my favorite story is less trout from surveillance.

[222] Survivor.

[223] Oh, yeah.

[224] Survivor man. That dude was in Alaska, and apparently he was on a remote island.

[225] And Alaska, for folks who don't know it, it's more than a thousand islands.

[226] Alaska has a fuckload of islands.

[227] It's temperate rainforests in the southeast.

[228] Yeah.

[229] Well, he was camping there.

[230] He was doing one of his survivor of things where he stays up all night and, you know, sleeps in a tent and makes his own food.

[231] I mean, it's really, the show's amazing.

[232] I love the guy.

[233] Anyway, he was in Alaska by himself, and he started hearing primate noises.

[234] He heard like, who, who, who, who.

[235] who, who, who, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho.

[236] Loud, something that didn't sound anything like a bear.

[237] He's like, this was, like, very distinct primate.

[238] And he said, then I started to make some movement.

[239] And when it realized that something was there, ran hard and fast through the woods.

[240] He goes, I don't know what it is, but it was big and it was heavy, and it ran through the woods, and it sounded like it was making primate noises.

[241] Oh, yeah.

[242] You know, to him, it was a real animal, and he suspects that it's probably big foot.

[243] You know, and he's a guy that goes to these really remote places and stays for days and days.

[244] And I think he's got it in his head how there could be an animal like that that lives completely outside of human contact.

[245] And even in 2012 is yet to be discovered.

[246] It's just this guy's story sounds like bullshit.

[247] I watched this story.

[248] I watched him talk.

[249] I watched him talk about shooting the thing that it was a baby.

[250] I was like, dude, you're an actor.

[251] This is nonsense.

[252] I don't, I didn't buy a word he was saying.

[253] He's taking a lot of grief, man. and he's not, and he's not making any money of it.

[254] Like, they're doing a book on it, and he's donated all of them.

[255] People are crazy.

[256] You know, check this out.

[257] When I took him out, when we went out there, Monkey loves, like, she's played with Bigfoot's before up in Bluff Creek.

[258] Yeah.

[259] I didn't actually see her playing with it, but I, it's the only daylight setting I ever had was the same day she was in the brush in that same spot, run around, and I can hear something huge running back and forth.

[260] Anyway, she gets excited.

[261] She got her ribs all broke by a bear when she was a puppy, and she hates them outlines.

[262] Wow.

[263] And where he said he stuck the baby's body, she, Like, you'll never hear her make a noise.

[264] She doesn't bark or anything.

[265] She might maybe playgrounds a little bit, but she doesn't bark.

[266] And the whole week we were up there.

[267] The only time anyone heard her to make any noise was when he said, yeah, I stuck it over that bush.

[268] And she was just walking around, sniffing.

[269] She went over that bush where he said he stuck the baby body.

[270] And she went crazy and started digging holes and, like, whining.

[271] Did you guys try to figure out if it was there to try to dig it out?

[272] Oh, yeah.

[273] We had cadet out, like, Dr. Melderman had set up for some cadaver dogs to the Smithsonian and stuff like that to come out.

[274] It was like a full, we had professional trackers.

[275] and the cadaver people we had two different sets of cadaver dogs they wouldn't do it because the funny part was was the lady had done search and rescue up in the mountains with the dogs too like body recoveries and she was certain that their saskatches live there and she didn't and it wasn't like I don't want to do it that's crazy I don't want to be involved in something that's not real she was like if it is Sasquatch and my dog picks up with that scent and tracks it it wouldn't ever track humans again they only track one thing those cadaver dogs really yeah that's what she's actually that's what the handler said to track a saskwash then they wouldn't work for humans anymore so but yeah but if you get a dog that was trained to track squatches you probably dog wouldn't live long if it caught up to him you think they would eat the dog they've they've been known to kill dogs like pretty frequently yeah really aggressive dogs even dogs that were just mind their own business they've killed them no shit yeah but dogs barking getting aggressive though people say they'll see them kick them do you know that is anyone that's had their dog killed oh yeah Squatch?

[276] Yeah, yeah.

[277] They see it?

[278] They see it happen?

[279] I talk with these natives.

[280] We were down squatching on the Hickory Apache Reservation in New Mexico, and they had one come up on the porch, and the female dog was, Pitbull was gardener puppy.

[281] She had, like, they were like four weeks, six -week -old puppies, and they're up on the sliding last door was morning.

[282] The kids were watching cartoons getting ready for school, eating breakfast, and the thing walked up on their porch, and the dog was snarling and snapping, and just walked up with its leg and just crushed it, broke its back.

[283] like crushed it and then stomped all the puppies and walked away whoa stomped a puppy so bigfoot's a douchebag i think they're like people yeah like some are total dicks and most them are all right now what is the most conclusive evidence you think it's that patterson footage because i think that footage is horseshit i think dude you're tripping i'm not i'm so wrong you're more wrong than you know do you know that that guy uh was arrested for writing a fake check to pay for the very camera that he used to finish that film that okay you're you're talking about greg long's book which is what i'm talking about which was a total and is it not true he was so um no he he he had some financial difficulties for sure bob gillan the guy that was driving him and the in the apache indian the tracker guy and the guy's a legend dude he's but there is one guy who has come out and said that it was a hoax and then he was a part of it right that guy's a liar total he's some drunk neighbor guy that used to hang out out with them that that um was roger and bob were real popular the roger patterson bob gillan they were like expert rodeo riders um bob gilinlin's the baddest dude you'll ever meet dude he was the number one ranked welter rate in the world when he got a serious car wreck ended his career he's in the rodeo hall of fame he's like the best tracker hunter he ever saw him the guys he's he's still out there like breaking horses and rope in and and what part did he play in this he was he was the guy he was the other guy there with with with roger they filmed it uh -huh roger patterson wasn't a con man no because i've read that he was a con man this guy put this he was arrested for writing bad checks yeah he because he was so impassioned with the project and like he knew that it was real and he was just thought he well his brother -in -law was supposed to be funding this stuff this guy al diatli was a millionaire up there and he kind he like you know it's like his brother -in -law like you know crazy roger running around whatever i think you know and he was his partner on this and then he was supposed to be putting funds in and like it didn't happen it wasn't like it wasn't like rogers's total con man he was like everyone people we've talked to there to say he's a good dude and he he purposely went there to try to find a big foot no he was there filming fresh tracks they were there to film the blue mountain trackway what does that mean there was some sets of tracks that people had found bigfoot tracks yeah there was two sets he was there to try to find big foot um at that time they were just looking for fresh tracks.

[284] I never thought they'd see it, especially in the day.

[285] Well, listen, man, nobody wants to believe Bigfoot more than me, but when I look at that video footage, it looks fake.

[286] Dude, you're tripping.

[287] It looks like a guy in a monkey suit.

[288] I'm just being honest.

[289] Pull it up, Brian.

[290] Pull it up.

[291] You're way off.

[292] I think you're tripping awesome.

[293] You think it's a real Bigfoot, Brian?

[294] I know it's real.

[295] I saw one in the daylight.

[296] Well, I'm not, listen, I'm not saying that Bigfoot's not real.

[297] I'm not saying that at all by any stretch of the imagination.

[298] Look, Jane Goodall believes Bigfoot's real.

[299] She said she believes 100 % that there is some undiscovered primate in the Pacific Northwest.

[300] I believe those words.

[301] Globally.

[302] Or exact words.

[303] What should I say that?

[304] Look up Bob Patterson, Bigfoot footage.

[305] Roger Patterson.

[306] Roderson.

[307] Put up Patterson Gimlin stabilized.

[308] Patterson Bigfoot footage, I'm sure.

[309] And put up stabilized because you want that.

[310] Oh, that's it.

[311] Oh, that shit's real as fuck.

[312] That's funny.

[313] Mexican border bigfoot footage.

[314] His Bigfoot in a sombrero and a fucking bag in a traffic.

[315] That's hilarious.

[316] We talked to a Border Patrol agent, though, that was tracking some illegals coming across and saw Bigfoot down the mountains down in Arizona.

[317] Really?

[318] Okay.

[319] Stable.

[320] Yeah, original footage.

[321] Okay, for one thing, when she's walking, if you can, see, that's not stabilized.

[322] Yeah, they're going to stabilize it in a second.

[323] That looks like a dude of a monkey suit.

[324] Dude, you're so off.

[325] The top expert guys in the world, like Chambers that made the, the um okay right let's see back a little bit more her foot they have a dull if you look at that casse they have a double ball foot and you can see it they just found this recently right there oh you just yeah you have to pause it you can't you had to pause it when she's picking her foot up it's her left foot going down and it's a total girl is that what they're saying oh dude big hair hitters big hairy ass tits listen I would love to believe that's a real big fat I really would but it looks like a dude in a monkey suit Nah, dude, it's way bigger than a human.

[326] Do they do the things that you guys do?

[327] That's one of the things I really enjoy about your show is that when someone has a video that they think it's Bigfoot, what they do is they send Bobo out, and Bobo's always bigger.

[328] Because you're a big dude, but you're always bigger than what they thought was Bigfoot.

[329] Except for coming up this season, one of the episodes coming up.

[330] Oh, really?

[331] It's way bigger than me. Well, they got smart, season two.

[332] They wizened up.

[333] You know a lot of those people just want to be on TV, right?

[334] on that show?

[335] No, a lot of them...

[336] You don't think a lot of those people with their stories?

[337] There was one guy, I remember.

[338] Some people, but most...

[339] What happens is we go there, right?

[340] Like, we have like a network all across the country, like Bigfoot researchers.

[341] There's like a lot of like academics, cops, like fishing game officials, like people that have seen them themselves and like they get into it.

[342] Have you seen it yourself?

[343] Yeah, yeah.

[344] When have you seen it?

[345] The last one I saw...

[346] That's funny, the guy just called me was with this guy, Jamie Jay.

[347] He was, you ever stepped me Black Hawk down?

[348] Yes.

[349] he was the real life dude the fifth group squad leader that um shot their way out like came out of that rescue house and came out and met up with them and then ran out front and shot his way out me and that guy were up there and it was where i'd saw the my only daylight setting was right on bluff creek where that was filmed the pg the paterson woman film was filmed really so you saw one there i saw what that's the one i when monkey was playing that day in the brush where i thought she was going to get killed earlier in that day the only reason i saw what she was staring at it was leaning out behind a tree and i saw it lean out behind a tree for like just that fat it just that just was gone.

[350] I walked up there and you can just smell that smell is one of the only times I really smelt that smell real thick you hear about because I haven't smelled that like people always talk about that smell but I've only smelled yeah they call them skunk apes yeah yeah we think it's like a like a secretion gland like they can like if they get agitated or scared or mad it'll seep out and like over millennia human brain is when that pheromone hits your brain it just caused a total fear reaction really yeah that's interesting so it's like you know what people of people don't realize is that like um the parts per million that a dog can smell of a person is very similar to what you can smell from a skunk right it's really interesting because you really think about how strong a skunk smell is that you're in your car with the windows rolled up and you're driving like oh fucking skunk and that's outside it's outside nowhere near you and it's just a little tiny squirt well a dog can smell a person like that right that is a trip man That's a wild thing to think of.

[351] And if we have a reaction to these things, some primordial reaction to these things, and that gland is just like a skunk gland, just like something that squirts out to us is like really distinct.

[352] Right.

[353] Probably all animals fear that smell.

[354] What was it like to you?

[355] What was the smell like if you could describe it?

[356] Is it possible?

[357] Yeah, I'll tell you this.

[358] I walked through it to another time where it was real thick, where it just walked in front of us, like we missed it by a minute.

[359] it's where it walked in a broad day across the meadow and uh hickory apache reservation i smelled it there too it was like you'd be like from here to the wall and you could walk through it and you just be like uh and like if there's no win right because both these times there was not win right then and it just hung so thick and it was like real musty like a musk and it was kind of sour kind of sewagey smell like wet like wet dog mix like bear like when a bear comes out in the spring when you smell smell bearers and they come out of hibernation like that kind of smell just a stinky animal fucking funk but thick and like nut and you would not when people because I didn't smell it for a long time I was around him a long time until I smelt one like I'd seen them and heard them around me before I'd ever smelled one what's the first time you saw one the first one I saw was of May 21st, 2001.

[360] Where?

[361] Up in Humbold, up in the Bald Hills.

[362] That's where you're from, right?

[363] I'm from down here originally, but I moved up there in the 80s.

[364] It's nice up there.

[365] Oh, yeah, it's beautiful.

[366] So I was with this cop and this probation officer guy, and then my buddy, I was all excited to go out of these guys, and I had, I just brought a Gen 2 Ukrainian Nightscope.

[367] That's when Night Vision and all that stuff was super expensive.

[368] It was like a real, nowadays it would just be a piece of crap.

[369] You probably buy one for $100.

[370] bucks but I never had one before so I was several like little cheap you know big five ones and I left it on the porch when I was packing my truck to go out we were going to go squatching for a week and uh my buddy drove it up to me we were only there 20 minutes and it's a long story dude no it's okay it's um well five nights before that I'd had my my first for sure like unambiguous saskwatching counter where it's scared still to this day it was scariest moment of my life like hour.

[371] You didn't see it.

[372] No, I didn't see them but I saw like when they ran at me when they bluff charged me there was like it was pitch black but like you can just see black on black moving like you know what I mean like you couldn't make out any form but it was just a big black couple black shapes like it was like there was gaps between the trees of starlight behind there was just like but there was so it was just like a black blur they ran on both sides of me I've been doing howls and growls and I've done them all the time and never I'd never had never had in hindsight when we were logging up there like probably about seven years earlier, six years earlier, further down that ridge line we'd been logging there one summer and they'd come around as much but I didn't realize what they were doing.

[373] I thought it was Indian.

[374] I thought it was pot grower Indian dudes up there because we were off the res and there'd be knocks and whistles in the morning and the Indian dudes wouldn't get out of the truck but like these dudes were like the baddest dudes on the res like no I'd fuck with these guys and like if someone was going to they'd be you know confront whoever like these dudes were gnarly burly Indian logger dudes and they just sit in the truck and knock it out until the sun came up because we'd be up there sharpening our saws and stuff getting ready and just kind of stretching a little bit and just getting ready for the day and they wouldn't get out of the truck with those whistles and knocks going to sit in the truck so I'd been around but didn't know it and uh this time it was they came I was doing howls and this thing came from the north and when you say you were doing house for folks who haven't seen the show you imitate like what you've heard in recordings and what you know right they believe are primate howls that they attribute to Bigfoot yeah so you can there's a bunch of those you can find on the internet and I was doing those and all of a sudden I thought I heard a wolf howling back or like a wolf cross hybrid my buddy you know everyone needs to have like a while back and seven eight's wolf with like a yeah and they don't listen to you at all yeah I thought it was one of those things and uh it was coming down the ridge and it kept then I go this made some weird sounds like almost like more coyote kind of sound but it sounded and then I'll just never forget it did kind of sounds sort of like mine but different it sounded way more primal and just gnarly and it just goes i just remember every hair in my body shut up and i just went holy shit i'm actually having a big foot encounter and the thing's been walking towards me at that point you've been walking at me for probably 20 minutes i could hear it coming closer and closer and it was just so loud i was carrying forever i was looking down over the clamoth river and um it just came and when it came into the tree I was sitting in this meadow, I was, like, there's a dirt road that runs along the top of the hill.

[375] Then the left side is Redwood National Parking.

[376] On the right side, it's Timberland.

[377] There's a few ranch in holdings, old family in holdings in there.

[378] And I was sitting up there and I was, this Indian woman, there's a little Indian village near this dirt road about 12 miles down.

[379] Said she'd saw one.

[380] And when I was talking about my cop buddy, John Freitas that day on the phone, he said, it was real, this is like cell phones and Humboldt back then.

[381] we're like real unless you're right in the middle of town didn't work too good and like i heard him say yeah may 21st you know well woman saw it run across the world right and i knew where she because we logged up in there i knew that whole area i knew exactly what he was talking about it was a big deer in elk meadow so i was like okay shit i know where that is and i was like jammed up there and i had the night scope i sat there and this thing came into the tree line like i started doing these crazy roars and screaming snapping trees and it was this thing was huge gnarly just I couldn't believe it.

[382] And when it came in the tree line to my right at my two o 'clock position, so what happens is like if this is the dirt road here, there's this meadow that's kind of crescent shape, half moon, there was a little timber stand here, brushing timber right here, and then there's a dirt road behind here.

[383] I was sitting on the other side of the road facing the meadow with my night scope sitting in this beach chair looking out this way.

[384] This thing came in here at my nine o 'clock.

[385] I was facing this way.

[386] This came in my nine o 'clock.

[387] And right when it did like this craziest roar and nap this tree from over here at 2 o 'clock was this gnarly power knock just crack they'll take a branch or something and just bash a tree or a stump or whatever we call them power knocks when they do that or wood knocks or light up it just this full gnarly power knock boom just to let you know they can do that of your head right that's what they're doing dude if they were ever going to kill anyone they would have killed me that night because or they're musicians yeah that's they have a really primitive band you know i've asked a lot of natives about that like because they come around tribal dances and stuff and so i've talked to you do Yeah, they'll kind of like, keep the noise down.

[388] What the fuck?

[389] They'll, like, kind of dig on it.

[390] They dig music, apparently.

[391] From whatever, they don't make any kind of music.

[392] What does, what did they sound like?

[393] Like, what does the howl sound like?

[394] The howl, God, dude.

[395] Can you leave us a version of the howl?

[396] My version?

[397] It only did mine once from what out, but it's kind of, should I do it?

[398] Yeah.

[399] How far should I get back?

[400] Yeah, like a little bit.

[401] Yeah, that's good.

[402] Like, like, hit a night making me loud.

[403] Wow.

[404] But I'd do it louder if we were outside.

[405] There was the videos that, or rather the audio recordings that some people have gotten of screams in the woods that they have identified as primate.

[406] Right.

[407] You know, where was that that they got those?

[408] Because it's pretty.

[409] All over the.

[410] Sounds like that.

[411] Missouri, Mississippi, Florida.

[412] How come nobody's got any pictures of them, man?

[413] They just, they're shitty pictures.

[414] And cameras don't work like the human eye, right?

[415] It's like your eye focus is so quick.

[416] And whenever you, because they're so used to getting shot at and they see a shoot at everything.

[417] I think, but I think they know what cameras are, but when they see something come up, they're just gone.

[418] Like, they're not sticking around.

[419] They're not going to sit there.

[420] But there is videos.

[421] There's a lot of videos of them, but we know people that have gotten them, but you can't tell it.

[422] It's just so shitty low quality, low res. Right.

[423] And they're almost always in the shadows.

[424] Like, it'll be bright outside.

[425] Then they're in the shadow.

[426] People aren't using high quality gear.

[427] Because if you hadn't personally had an encounter, at a certain point in time, you have to look at all these different people with their shitty photos and the things that don't that don't really look like a big foot right there's a lot of hoaxers and crazy people a lot of people right well most is for sure hoaxes almost all but isn't that annoying that you're dealing with you're in a business where half the people are full of shit let's say not not we're being nice no i think that's being nice i think people that are that people that research bigfoot no no not research bigfoot that have claimed have seen them i think i think i don't think half of them are I don't think they're, I don't, no way, because there's, I've talked to over 4 ,000 people that have seen them and maybe 100 or 200 were trying to bullshit me. Only 100 or 200, really?

[428] Because they, they, this is before I was on TV and stuff mostly, you know what I mean?

[429] Like, I'd just be talking about, you know, people in the community, like I've talked a couple of my professors when I was going to school, had seen them.

[430] We did, all kinds of people.

[431] We did this thing once, you said, you can't trust it.

[432] Once you put it on TV, like your show, you know, like, I see people that, you know, raise their hands.

[433] I'm like this motherfucker Oh, he's making this shit up Right Town Hall meetings Right When did you see a big foot I don't fucking They just Like you could tell some Some folks We'll just make shit up To get on camera And I did a show for CBS once It was called Game Show in my head And one of the things we did was We would show up somewhere Pretending to be a real news crew Uh huh And the assignment that the contestant had Was you have to get someone To agree to have seen something That they didn't actually see Right because your witness took off and it's a UFO sighting.

[434] So you have to get someone, tell them you're going to put them on the news and say, listen, you know, I was, we were about to film this guy.

[435] Do you think you could pretend that you had seen the UFO?

[436] Every fucking one of them said yes.

[437] It was crazy.

[438] But you could tell, though.

[439] You couldn't tell, man. When you watched the playback, you couldn't tell they were bullshit.

[440] It was no different than listening to people on your show talk about Bigfoot.

[441] You know, there is a different stuff because, you know, it's funny is a lot of, we do it a lot of law enforcement people because they go out to rural resists.

[442] residences like break -ins, like when they're stealing chickens or freezers, like breaking their food, steal chickens and shit.

[443] Whatever, yeah, they're omnivores.

[444] And a lot of cops watch our, the guy John Fred is the cop I was out before.

[445] He's certified federally to be a deception expert.

[446] He trains other law enforcement agencies.

[447] And we've heard like other police training agencies like when they teach them like deception, like what to look for when people are lying.

[448] And they watch our show for the witnesses, and they said they're surprised at how they aren't lying, almost all the ones they see over three -quartered.

[449] Really?

[450] Because I bet that guy sucks at that.

[451] No, no, other ones.

[452] Other cops, other people that instruct on that.

[453] I'm better at that shit than him.

[454] I could just see Roscoe, Pico.

[455] Yeah, I'm a trained, you know.

[456] I'm a trained expert.

[457] And the laws and the arts of deception.

[458] You ain't going to sneakie by me?

[459] The Duke boys?

[460] Like if that kind of, if that kind of officer said I was a trained professor.

[461] How many times have you been out on a show, though, where you're going, like, with the witnesses, and you go, man, I think this guy might be full of shit.

[462] Not, we just did, I can't, I can't tell you which ones haven't.

[463] I don't think none of the ones that we aired.

[464] And dude, if someone was pulling a prank, believe me, they'd be growing about it.

[465] It's not a pulling the prank, just they're crazy and they want a friend.

[466] Instead, they have a Bigfoot story.

[467] Yeah.

[468] Oh, we get, there's some of that for sure.

[469] But, you know, we don't put those people on the show.

[470] Like they might show clips from at the town hall But we don't go out to their spot with them And a lot of those guys that we go out with like They've already been vetted like several times Like local BFR investigators have gone there with the person Gone over the whole sighting Although we did have we just did one on the show Where we're pretty sure that we don't know for sure But we think the guy was, we're pretty sure the dude is a line You know Well if you guys are sure the guy was lying I bet he's fucking lying Yeah Yeah I'm like Moneymaker those You've seen the show right?

[471] Moneymaker's just real stares out of it like you know it's funny that it's his name first of all his real name is Matt Moneymaker that's hilarious his dad's a famous bankruptcy attorney here in Beverly Hills name Rich Moneymaker That's even funnier I know Rich Moneymaker The Bankruptcy Attorney I mean if you were going to have a Cohen Brothers movie And in it was going to be A plot line that involved a Bigfoot TV show you guys would be perfectly cast You know you Bobo the Sasquatch expert is always bigger than the video Matt Moneymaker, the guy's name is Moneymaker.

[472] That alone sounds like a character.

[473] It's awesome.

[474] How did you guys all get together?

[475] How did this show get started?

[476] I hooked up with Matt through, well, he runs the BFRO.

[477] I don't know if you ever looked at website.

[478] Bigfoot field researchers organization.

[479] It's got like 50 ,000 sightings on it, whatever.

[480] And it was real hard to get in back then.

[481] Like, you know, and I was just like whatever fisherman, logger guy didn't have any credentials or anything like that but I always went out and I knew a lot of the natives out there and I worked in the woods out there and I spent time out there and I talked to people and I just need the lay of the land so I hooked up with this guy John Fradis and then I was like a volunteer whatever with the BFR for a few years and then in 2003 they were filming that show Mysterious Encounters on Outdoor Left Network it was Matt and autumn I don't know if you ever saw it was just one season but Matt and autumn were on it then I was on like three episodes with them we were cruising around in Northern Cal and um I was just then he made me like a whatever investigate.

[482] You had to get, you know, you had to get through steps being an investigator.

[483] Like you had to know what you were talking about.

[484] And maybe now there's definitely people that are in the BFR or now.

[485] There's like several hundred people across the country.

[486] It's good because it's a broader net.

[487] But some of the people just don't have the woods experience.

[488] And like when they go out there, they don't, like people misidentify stuff all the time.

[489] Like, you know, a lot of the stuff I do in people, some of there are having Bigfoot action out there.

[490] You get out there and it's a bobcat and heat or there's a bar.

[491] Bartowl moved in, you know, and some barred owl making food.

[492] Yeah, it could be.

[493] Just stuff like, or bear or whatever.

[494] But I'll say this for all the times that people say they saw Bigfoot and it was a bear, I'll bet you there's way more times where people saw Bigfoot and go, I just saw a weird bear.

[495] Right.

[496] Because they brain came and processed Bigfoot.

[497] Especially before the 60s, there's my buddy Scott McLean lives right down here in Santa Monica.

[498] He's compiled that.

[499] He's putting a book out.

[500] And it's all like pre -1950 newspaper accounts.

[501] He's got like 1 ,500 of them.

[502] them from North America back to the 1700s of people reporting orangutans because it was before guerrillas were discovered.

[503] Then once the descriptions switched from orangutan to gorilla would be what they compare it to or a wild man. There's wild man stories like up in humble they call them the loggers call them since the 1800s wood apes and brush apes.

[504] There's a 130 something names up and down the west coast with monkey or ape in the name like monkey Creek, Ape Canyon, Monkey Ridge, ape Ridge, like they're all over the place.

[505] And they'd get that name because that's where the brush apes lived.

[506] Jesus, how fucking cool would it be if they actually got some real footage, some real honest to goodness, you can't fuck with it.

[507] At least iPhone 1 footage.

[508] Or captured one, or captured a Sasquatch, tracked one and dragged it out of the hood.

[509] There's footage.

[510] They won't release it.

[511] We just went there.

[512] We did an episode there.

[513] It won't release.

[514] No, it's a tribe.

[515] They got on a security camera behind the casino.

[516] What?

[517] And why won't they release it?

[518] Dude, it's super heavy.

[519] The squatch to the natives is...

[520] Listen, they were to do anything for money.

[521] Look what they did with these casinos.

[522] They'll take the money.

[523] They set up casinos down there.

[524] They just need to offer them some cash.

[525] No, dude, there's certain...

[526] Some tribes, there's a few tribes like that.

[527] Most of them, though, there's still old people in charge.

[528] like they listen to them about that kind of stuff like cultural stuff so the saskatch video if they that's their culture that you would never be able to release a video of it it's funny because uh i've talked to some some tribes where they said that that it's it signifies the end of the world if saskatch is brought in like captured what yeah it'd be like that's like their that life has gotten so crazy that someone caught a big foot or you know brought in a body whatever well now this guy who i think is full of shit who's telling us story about shooting the baby.

[529] Why wouldn't he just bring a piece of it with him?

[530] Why wouldn't he cut off a finger?

[531] If he's willing to kill one of these fucking things, like it's a dog or like it's a coyote or something?

[532] Or one of the he just take the blood to another blood DNA person or a piece of hair or something.

[533] Hack off its hand.

[534] Well, at that point, his buddy came over super pissed at him for shooting it.

[535] And then they were starting a trip because at this point getting really dark.

[536] And they're just going like, okay, there's got to be another big.

[537] It takes two to make babies.

[538] There's got to be another big one.

[539] and they definitely regret not bringing it because they could have brought the baby line weighed like 30 35 pounds that doesn't make any sense to me I don't believe him it sounds like horseshit it sounds like horseshit the guy doesn't have a photo of it he shoots a big foot and he's not going to bring something back there's no way you would bring nothing back but they map the genome of that of that flesh sample he brought in yeah but that's some shit they found there after the fact he didn't take it from the baby and bring it with him right yeah yeah there's no direct chain of custody but um dude you can't argue DNA well if you really do say that the DNA has been mapped and it is some new hominid.

[540] Yeah, but isn't the woman crazy that's the DNA?

[541] No, I didn't say that.

[542] Well, I mean that there's like at least some controversy about it.

[543] There's some controversy about it.

[544] If there's any controversy, just take it to like a like a regular DNA map.

[545] It's already like a known company.

[546] There is.

[547] There's other and the other labs are coming up to the same conclusions as her.

[548] What's her name?

[549] Melba.

[550] Melba.

[551] M -E -L -L -B -A -K -E -T -C -H -U -M.

[552] She has.

[553] I was like, I guess like DNA diagnostics down in Texas.

[554] But we just, we went to a genetic lab recently with some, um, some hair from that back when that whole thing that, you know, the video we told you about the video with a 10 foot, big foot walks up to the dumpster.

[555] The thing's about 10 foot.

[556] Yeah, where was this?

[557] Um, Oklahoma.

[558] And how good is the video?

[559] This is, it was, I never got to see it.

[560] But I know, I know, I know people that have seen it.

[561] You didn't get it to see it.

[562] Why haven't you gotten to see it?

[563] It's, it's, it's locked in the vault and the tribal chairman won't, won't, won't, won't anyone even see it anymore because what happened was word leaked out there was a bigfoot there was bigfoot and when you go to this place in Oklahoma it's what they travel the river routes they follow the rivers there's thick brush and bogs along the rivers and they travel that especially at night and this casino was near was near enough to that they'd come up there and they're they're real comfortable around natives because natives don't shoot out them very out it's rare for a native to shoot at a squash they respect they leave them alone they'll put out food for them and leave is what they do and they don't have any photos of them either Some have, up in Humbold, there was a family of some local Indians that shot footage just about from 400 yards away.

[564] And it's looking down, they were out scouting elk.

[565] And this thing, a female was feeding down in the bottom eating some kind of vegetated matter.

[566] I'm not sure whether it was eating something up.

[567] Like, it might have been some kind of root.

[568] And they filmed it for like 13, 14 minutes.

[569] But, you know, it's like 400 yards away with things.

[570] Probably about 7 foot tall and 400 pounds.

[571] So this woman, Ms. Ketchum, who's doing this study, she's apparently putting it up for peer review.

[572] Is that what's going on?

[573] Yeah.

[574] So she's made her conclusions.

[575] Yeah, her conclusions are done.

[576] The peer reviews going on right now.

[577] Oxford University is one of the labs that's in on the DNA study now.

[578] I can't say, I mean, it's their deal.

[579] I can't say what other labs are doing it, but you would know.

[580] names there's a there's a big public university one of the guys runs a genetic department's doing it and their initial results are they're blown away there's a picture of a big foot back it's the best picture I think that's fake is it fake I don't know I might not be I think it is what if big foots were born very big and they only like were big like one day and they grew really small right shut the fuck up now they grew backwards or something you just broke every person's brain who's listening to this thing they're not from or how dare you so your your first encounter came after you were already obsessed with bigfoot oh totally what became what started it off how did you become obsessed i told you my story i talked to a trapper and he told me it was real then i was right freaked out I saw the Patterson Gillen film like on some TV show when I was about five because I remember I just started kindergarten and I could get I could take books out at school at that point I was looking for Bigfoot books And it just caught you Like you just became obsessed with it Yeah and then I was Then I grew up down here I was a surfer and all that And you know skate punk And after high school I was going to I was doing it I was paled in outer canoes If you know those Hawaiian wine canoes, outriggers.

[581] Uh -huh.

[582] Yeah, I was racing those.

[583] And we were, like, the top team in the country and, you know, doing like world championships and all that stuff.

[584] So I stayed down here longer, but I was wanting to move up to Humble because I was in a surf and I liked big waves.

[585] And there was big foot and big surf up there.

[586] And I was like, man, places are killer.

[587] I'm going there.

[588] So I moved up there.

[589] Then I started, did some logging jobs and started meeting people in the community and worked with some natives and kind of got in more and more and just really started delving it.

[590] Like, if I heard about a report, I'd go check it out.

[591] talk to whoever I could.

[592] I'd have like Bigfoot shirts or hats I'd wear them and people come to me and go, believe in Bigfoot?

[593] You know, I'd say, yeah, and I'd say, yeah, I saw one one time.

[594] You know, it was crazy how many people.

[595] You got in rural areas, how many people.

[596] And it's, there's so many, there's so much hard data for them.

[597] Like, where you look where the sightings are, it's generally 90 % of, 90 % of the sightings, over 90 % of the sightings are, you can follow.

[598] It's like a, you look at it where there's 20 inches of rainfall or more.

[599] Like there's...

[600] That's where they live.

[601] Yeah, yeah.

[602] And there's, like, there's a bell curve where you'd see with a natural occurring animal for, like, foot size.

[603] What, oh, God, I should have brushed up on this stuff.

[604] You said to think about saying something's stupid on front of a camera when I'm doing Bigfoot stuff.

[605] But, uh...

[606] Well, there's a lot of data.

[607] You know, when you, when you, when you, as soon as you start saying you believe in Bigfoot, there's gonna, it's impossible to, you know, to have everybody take you seriously, right?

[608] You know, it's like...

[609] Fuck those people.

[610] They're, they're wrong.

[611] Well, eventually it's going to, if it, if it, if it's, is a real thing.

[612] Someone's going to get something conclusive, right?

[613] And they already have.

[614] Well, what's the most, what's the most conclusive thing besides the Patterson footage that I think is bullshit?

[615] Just the enormous amount of footprints that have been cast.

[616] For the folks on Ustream, he brought me a replica of the best footprint.

[617] And it's fucking awesome.

[618] If that really is from an animal, holy shit, is that thing big.

[619] Yeah.

[620] And actually, I got a copy of the hand.

[621] It left a knuckle mark, too, where it stepped up over a, um a like a four foot step up it went up and put its knuckles in the ground i got that out in the car too i can show you but see those little ridge patterns only living flesh leaves like those red a cut out foot or like a fiberglass mold would not leave that ridge pattern in that moisture right this all this stuff right here yeah yeah yeah yeah i mean any tracker i'll tell you that so this you think is a for sure legit big foot footprint oh yeah it's considered the best one it's it will the best one without clear dirt dermals, and that was cast by Deputy Hereford in Graves County, Washington.

[622] And when you say clear dermals for folks who don't know, that's one of the most conclusive pieces of evidence for the people, the scientific community that support the idea of a giant primate is dermal ridges that you have, like, similar to fingerprints.

[623] You know, you have those on the bottom of your foot.

[624] And these animals actually leave these in some of the tracks, which would be incredibly difficult to replicate.

[625] Dude, Jimmy Chilcutt, he taught the FBI labs in Quantico, Virginia, like when you go through the academy, he's the latent fingerprint expert, blah, blah, well, they were trying to see, like, when they found just a, like, a gun and a murder scene, there's prints on it, and, like, just no matches.

[626] He was the guy that he used for 15 years.

[627] He went around and fingerprinted and footprinted every primate he could in zoos, research labs, and printed thousands of gorillas running.

[628] tangings, monkeys, chimpanzees, blah, blah, gibbons.

[629] And so after all this time, it was because since they have a smaller gene pool and they don't interbreed, was the idea was they were trying to see, was there any pattern discernible like Asians or Africans or Europeans or Native Americans, like if they just found a gun with a fingerprint, was there any thing that would show what it's from, like what race at least it was?

[630] And the answer was no, but as a result of that study, he became the, the world's leading expert on primate.

[631] God, I'm going to say this wrong.

[632] God, Dermatoglyphics.

[633] Dermal ridges.

[634] Dermal ridges.

[635] Yeah.

[636] I get a little tongue.

[637] I get tied up on some of that stuff.

[638] But I can spell it.

[639] And so anyways, he's testified in court for like smuggling cases.

[640] You know, people bring it in and they'll say, no, this animal was born here.

[641] And he'll, he can go ahead and show the fingerprinted spot.

[642] And so he's studied the tracks.

[643] And he's, and this guy has put people away in over 400 capital cases.

[644] He was the expert witness on, is it where the, evidence was fingerprints and he went on on discovery channel and said I stake my professional reputation and name on that these are genuine there's an undiscovered primate leaving these tracks and people are saying like well you just opened up like you know yourself to like have like or all these 400 convictions you've gotten now the defense lawyers could say this guy's crazy what right and he goes I can prove it in court so he's not even worried about it and it hasn't he hasn't had to but he said he could.

[645] What's interesting to me is the idea that there could be an undiscovered animal and that someone someday is going to bring it in, just like they have with the big chimpanzee that was a legend in Congo.

[646] It's called a Bondo, actually.

[647] Bonobos are the little ones.

[648] They're like a cousin to a regular champion.

[649] They fuck a lot.

[650] They're the crazy horny ones.

[651] The Bondo apes are the, Right.

[652] Giant chimps.

[653] Or bilibi.

[654] Billy.

[655] Yeah, Billy.

[656] B -I -L -I, yeah.

[657] They're in a part of the Congo that's really, really fucking hard to get to.

[658] And since the 1900s, there were stories of these big giant gray chimps.

[659] And that was from the Michael Crichton movie, the Congo.

[660] They actually depicted these things in there, these big giant.

[661] And they'll walk bipedal sometimes.

[662] Yeah, yeah.

[663] They're called lion killers in the near time.

[664] Exactly, yeah.

[665] They have two words for chimps.

[666] They call them tree beaters or lion killer.

[667] And there's some chimps.

[668] They have photos of dead ones.

[669] I mean, these are real, legit, 100 % real primates that are still, like, very, very controversial.

[670] It's still, there's a lot of people that didn't know they existed until the 90s.

[671] Weren't sure until Carl Armand, who's a Swiss wildlife photographer, he got some evidence, some bones and some stuff, and then became obsessed with it and started going there.

[672] But he has camera -chap photos of them.

[673] Right.

[674] But not until the 2000s.

[675] Exactly, exactly.

[676] And he brought back some plaster of castes like those that weren't even as good as this.

[677] Right.

[678] And there's more evidence for Sasquatch than those, than those Billy Apes.

[679] Really?

[680] Well, well, there's actual real good photographs of these Billy Apes, though.

[681] Now there is.

[682] Now there is.

[683] But the point is that for the longest time, people were saying that this was bullshit.

[684] And now they know 100 % that this is real.

[685] And the Congo has people living in it.

[686] Right.

[687] There ain't nobody live in when these places.

[688] They're too much, so up in that area.

[689] They're just pushing in there now.

[690] There's still tons of virgin timber they're cutting down up there.

[691] Right.

[692] The Congo's so huge, too.

[693] It's another thing people don't realize.

[694] It's like literally almost as dense as the entire distance between California and New York.

[695] Like, there's that much Congo.

[696] Really?

[697] It's fucking enormous.

[698] I know it was that big.

[699] I might be wrong.

[700] Oh, not the country, but the Congo Bay.

[701] The Congo, the Congo River Bay.

[702] The jungle.

[703] The rain.

[704] Right, okay, they were talking about the country, but yeah, yeah, the Congo base.

[705] That animal being something that was mythological and now is a real thing.

[706] Does that give you guys hope?

[707] Does that, like, make Bigfoot people like, oh, yeah, see, bitch?

[708] There's some shit out there that you couldn't find.

[709] I used to be pretty militant, like, sometimes violent in my defense of the Sasquatch existence, but I don't even worry about it.

[710] I've seen them, and I know there's enough tissue samples in there now getting examined.

[711] There's so much going on.

[712] There's a lot of hair experts getting in on the hair because I'm not sure exactly what it is, but something about the platelets where they line up.

[713] They've gotten better microscopes or something.

[714] They can see them better.

[715] I'm not sure what it is, but these hair experts are getting really into the Sasquatch hair because it's unique.

[716] There's nothing that matches it.

[717] And there's the, there's just certain characteristics about Sasquatch trail.

[718] Like every sample that's legitimate that's handed in, it doesn't try to be horse or bear or whatever.

[719] but every sample gets turned in has these same characteristics and there's a there's a joint study going on like different experts in that field who are working around like from different countries even that are all examining these hairs and like marking these markers and and it's like they're real excited about it you know it's really going to be interesting when the skies are filled with drones and drones can take images of anything anywhere they want at any time and they just fucking send them over the Pacific Northwest They already kind of have that with everyone having cell phones.

[720] That's just the thing that I just don't understand.

[721] If there's so many people that see this and there's still no photos.

[722] And then and there's photos.

[723] And like the hair and the blood and everything like that.

[724] I know that it doesn't take that long for it to get, you know, for them to say, you know, this is dear blood.

[725] This is so -and -so blood.

[726] This is so -and -so blood.

[727] But if they're all saying that it's unknown, then why have they, has there been multiple agencies that have like put out reports about?

[728] this or is there any you know what the fuck you're talking about son like like like like if there's been so many blood samples and and hair samples and they're all being tested and they can't find out what this blood is because they could it doesn't take that long for them to take blood and go this is deer blood you know right so so if they're all saying like hey we don't know what this blood is have they been giving out like statements or press reports or you know stuff about this is there is there information out there about them saying we don't know what this blood is yeah there is but you think you understand is like the science world is so political and so backstabbing and so and they're so afraid to like do something unconventional because you just get barred in the field that they're real reticent to like do stuff like that but there are there are something that have like dr farrenbach and some others that have and there's others that look at it and they won't there's a lot of people that work in the big foot field anonymously like other scientists that collaborate with them that just don't want to deal with any ridicule or not get promoted or whatever it may be yeah watch a documentary where a doctor some sort of a professor at the university was talking about um the fact that even though he supports bigfoot he does it very reluctantly uh he supports the idea that bigfoot exists it goes because quite honestly until one's discovered until there's conclusive proof he says it's just a point of ridicule it's just one of those things You're talking about Dr. Meldrum at Idaho State?

[729] I don't know where he's from.

[730] Yeah, yeah.

[731] And he's a genius.

[732] He's written like four books on foot anatomy, how humans have gone from quadri - how, like, back, you know, evolution, how we went from quadrupede to bipedal.

[733] He's like the foremost expert guy in the world on that.

[734] And he was actually one of the guys at the body recovery site with us when we went up in there.

[735] And he believes that, he believes the shooter story also.

[736] He was there.

[737] Like everyone that believes that guy?

[738] Yeah, everyone that was there, that that's or that week came away believing him why did he bring something back it's silly i'll tell you later off the air okay all right well there's some sort of a secret ladies and gentlemen and i can't share with you it might be the answer to this whole crazy puzzle it just would answer yeah some a little bit well they were they were they were pounding beers and they just saw that warden guy and they didn't want to like they were they had a drive to get back to camp and they had it they the dude was afraid to get like a DUI or something because they're you know I don't ever run in the woods like you know just drinking beers driving around right out the track whatever Jesus Christ and those are the guys that shot a bigfoot baby I know well only the one guy did the other guy was anti the whole time and other than that like what is a what is a good piece of evidence that someone could look at Freeman footage Freeman footage that's I'm convinced that's real Freeman footage what is Freeman footage Paul Freeman was a, he was a, the Mill Creek watershed up in the blue mountains of northeast Oregon and southeast Washington.

[739] There's a huge area, like a lot of municipalities have their own water districts, and they'll own like, you know, tens of thousands of acres of watershed land.

[740] And you're not allowed up in there because it's a water supply.

[741] They don't want, like, diesel in it or anything.

[742] And he was the patrol guy up in there, and he was seeing Bigfoot's finding their tracks and actually seeing him in the daylight up there.

[743] So he started carrying a video camera, and he got footage of that.

[744] And I'm 100 % convinced that's real.

[745] Brian, pull that shit up.

[746] Freeman Bigfoot footage.

[747] This is from the 90s?

[748] Yeah, and then he has another clip that he wouldn't, he died.

[749] He got diabetes and died young about 15 years ago.

[750] But he has another clip where he falls down and starts screaming kind of crying.

[751] He gets bluff charge for one.

[752] He gets it real close to the big male comes up out of like full guerrilla style charge.

[753] And he got footage of it.

[754] He never released it because he looks so bad in it.

[755] got you know piss his pants or something like literally saw something in the woods look at that and those tracks were authenticated can't see much up there here I hear the brush popping and stuff oh there you go I keep watching get up here yeah it's pretty from watching these videos like whenever I I think if I'm potentially filming a big foot, I never take the camera off of it.

[756] Oh, no one thing, when it cost got up there.

[757] It probably dropped on the ground.

[758] I just wonder.

[759] Does he see it again, or is that it?

[760] I don't think so.

[761] Oh, is that it?

[762] What makes you convince if that's real?

[763] Just like the size of it and the way it moves.

[764] People went back up there and said it was well over seven and a half feet tall.

[765] I don't know where the comparison video is for it, but.

[766] People did go up there.

[767] And then right after that, they ended up clear -cutting that whole thing and putting like a campground right there.

[768] They were actually staking it out.

[769] There's like some ribbons.

[770] You can see that flag tying on a couple of the trees.

[771] It was marked for being turned into a campground.

[772] That to me looks way better than the Wright - Patterson, or the Wright - Patterson Air Force.

[773] Roger Patterson footage, just because it's not as clear.

[774] The other thing about the Patterson film is you're seeing, the copies you're seen on TV or like every time they make a clone copy it loses like 30 % up to 30 % resolution for the crystal on the out.

[775] The original Patterson, the original footage piece, which no one knows where it is now probably Alda Attlee has it, is really clear.

[776] Clear than that.

[777] Oh, what you see on TV a lot of, like Nat Geo did a good digitization of it and they've shown that, that's like the clearest version you can get now.

[778] But like the stuff you'd see on TV back on the day, that would be all blurry.

[779] It wasn't, the original is not blurry.

[780] Who's this guy, Bob Hieronymus that says that he was the gorilla?

[781] Dushbag, alcoholic guy.

[782] Just a liar.

[783] Gimlin's neighbor.

[784] It's like, dude, okay, you know what, the whole Kennedy assassination's over?

[785] I'm the one that shot Kennedy.

[786] It was me. You know, case closed.

[787] So he's just some crazy dude is trying to take credit.

[788] He's not crazy.

[789] He's just...

[790] Asshole.

[791] It's just kind of a...

[792] It's pretty dicky move.

[793] If it really was a Bigfoot, if it really was a big foot, if it really was.

[794] a video of a live Sasquatch and this motherfucker's running around pretending that he was a part of a hoax.

[795] Well, he's, there's a this guy, if you're into this, you can look it up.

[796] Roger Knight wrote, I forget what it's called.

[797] He wrote like a 74 page thing where he interviewed Hieronymus and went through and tore apart his story.

[798] He's made like five different statements about how the costume was constructed.

[799] Well, Gimlin said that it was possible that it was a hoax.

[800] He said, now he was older.

[801] He says, I was totally convinced no one could fool me. And of course I'm an older man now and I think there could have been the possibility of a hoax but it would have had to have been really well planned by Roger that's what he said he's I just I've talked to him but I was just with Bob this weekend he's the radest I swear to he's he was he was one of the first guys were out of evil can evil he was like a daredevil guy like he's just a rad guy and salt to the earth and we were asking him about that and he said you know the way the questioning was going he was just getting badgered badgered with it he said Like there's always a possibility you could be hooks, but he's like, I know what I saw the thing was I was looking at eye level for my horse.

[802] When they rode there, there's B -roll footage where, you know, they ride the horse next to the tracks and the horse prints are not going as deep as those footprints.

[803] Really?

[804] Yeah.

[805] What do you think these fucking things eat?

[806] Everything.

[807] Everything of bear eats.

[808] They're omnivores.

[809] They, you know, they obviously have a high caloric intake to be that big.

[810] and you know so in the wintertime they probably eat more meats like they'll hunt deer elk they'll even hunt bear black bear they hunt them yeah yeah they use tools do they use weapons sometimes like we've seen like some evidence where they've where the elk they'll flesh deer elk out of a meadow they'll come running it'll take the same routes every time and one'll be on the like one will roar at one side like hunters just said they've been up you know bow hunters creeping up on on a little herd in a meadow or something and also they'll just god awful roar scream come from one side they all run to the other side and they're whack you know and you're seeing like where they'll just take a club and as the deer go running by just clubbing the front legs and shatter their front legs and then go over and break they'll break the neck when they kill them they break the neck so they kill them with objects they use tools they use like a log or something I think most times they use their bare hands they're that big they can kill a deal with their bare hands oh easy easy they'll pick them up they'll take a full -grown elk and sling it over their shoulder and walk off with it.

[811] Jesus Christ.

[812] Like, I've heard so many stories like, dude, not people are like trying to bullshit me, like, you know, just people tell them what they saw.

[813] And, you know, obviously there's some people that you can go, that guy's full of shit or whatever, but I'm talking like, genuine people that you're talking and just going, like, this guy's not shit in me. And you hear these stories, and I've never seen him kill it.

[814] I've only seen one really moving good, and I was at night, was on the hickory again, the Hickory Apache Reservation.

[815] How many times have you seen Bigfoot?

[816] Probably a half dozen, but only one time.

[817] in the daylight and I didn't see it.

[818] It was just standing there and I turned my head and it was gone and I didn't see it again.

[819] That's when I smelt real good and then the one at Hickory I saw in 2004 it came, we had all these infrared cameras and set point at the tree line and it walked across the South Alpha Field and came into our camp everyone was down the fire.

[820] It was kind of a spread out camp.

[821] We were at the Chief of Police for the who's the courting for all law enforcement on the Hickory Apache Res and we were on his property and no one's this dude was a badass.

[822] He got in trouble for being a little to you know he you know beat the shit out of people he like he couldn't couldn't prove some guy broken some old lady's house you know it's a res everyone knows what's going on everyone this guy's on meth whatever you know he's stealing and if he couldn't prove like if he couldn't catch the guy he would just take him outside and beat the shit out I'm like one of those guys so no one's coming up this guy's ranch he was the very and ranch then it was a continental divide behind there and it went for like 25 miles of the next set of houses and this thing came from the continental divide side came walking up and I didn't see it walk up I wasn't aware of it until we had this guy who was a special forces colonel and the special forces not the guy I was with when I saw the one of the envelope at night and I thought it was him dressed all in black and just weren't because it was blow freezing where like 9 ,000 feet and I thought it was him all bundled it up wearing like a parker I wasn't sure but it just it was all black I was going what's you doing because I could hear fingernails up and down the side of a tent like that fabric just with fingernails and that fabric sound nylon and it was going around the tent and it got over to the front where the it was our bait tent where we were keeping all the food we were putting out for bait was that and it was it was kneeling down I'm like why and it looked like it was because it walked can I get up for a second and show you yeah I was watching it for a while and I had night vision or I had night vision around my neck and I didn't because you didn't want to be like the creep like get caught staring at someone through night vision at night you know right so I didn't even look I thought it was just a one of us I mean it walked like a man except for it um it was walking like a man but it looked like he looked like he was looking on the ground for something but I but I think it was was in hindsight knowing how carefully they're about where they step not to step where they leave they're real conscious not to leave tracks like that for the most part and it was I think it was looking where it was stepping so it wouldn't step in something and leave a print but it was just walking like this so it needs to step in like mud or something like that to leave uh...

[823] well it was walking it walked like this a little time but walking a man they would kneel down like just get on one knee like that and mess around at the front of the tent and they went over to this tent where the only girl that was Canada was going to her tent it's hard for people to hear you when you say this it was going back and forth and I watched it for about five minutes and the moon was coming there's almost a full I can't remember the exact man and it was walking and then the moon was just about to hit the field it was an old alfalfa field this guy had and he would plant it but the deer and elk were so thick up there he just gave up and let them and eat it he just quit farming and there's just alfalfa growing for like 100 acres and so this thing walked back across the field as the moonlight was coming down and just walked real fast so I thought it was the colonel I go back down to camp and I was going and they were like was that you throwing rocks pebbles at us there was pebbles being thrown down by the guys they thought it was me and like you know if you're a squat you don't screw like you don't do like hey that's fool this guy or you just don't do shit like that if you're out or you'll get banned you don't want to go out there.

[824] If you're a squatcher is that what you said?

[825] Yeah, the verb I thought you went, I thought you were saying if you were a squatch, like saying.

[826] Oh no, if you're a squatter.

[827] They throw rocks at people?

[828] Oh yeah, dude.

[829] Yeah.

[830] Totally.

[831] Yeah, so I'll just finish real quick.

[832] It walked away and I go back down there and everyone's there.

[833] Had this guy that was bigger than me, go to stand by the tent.

[834] I went back to my original position.

[835] He was walking around the tents and I didn't, you know, something's seven foot or like six and a half foot.

[836] It's not real clear.

[837] Like, I didn't, I wasn't, I hadn't made mental notes how exactly big these tents were, and if someone was walking around how big they'd look in scale.

[838] So, but when I saw this guy was about six, five or so down there walking around the tent, he was just dwarfed by this thing.

[839] I mean, it wasn't that much taller, maybe like, you know, six, nine, seven foot, but just the bull, it was just easily twice the way to him or more, easily, at least.

[840] Where'd this thing go?

[841] It walked back and just walked straight across the meadow, and the moonlight, just as it walked past the moon popped up and started hitting that whole area and it just went back in the woods and my dad who was a total skeptic he came out there just camp for a week and they had like a father -son trip he actually heard him like talking and not right then but then a night before that he'd heard them talking like a couple of them up there and they were actually talking they do like this jibbri you ever heard the Sierra sounds no I got in the car I'll burn you a copy these guys got hours of recordings and the Sierra Nevada's of them jabbering away.

[842] Those things are being translated by military translators right now.

[843] There's a breakthrough on that front, too.

[844] There's all kinds of breakthroughs going down right now.

[845] So this sound that they make, was it anything like what this other guy was talking about?

[846] The guy who says he shot a baby says they were like mumbling, like almost like death.

[847] Yeah, he said they sound like they were profoundly deaf.

[848] I've heard him do this a few times.

[849] And it sounds like to me, what it sounded like to me was kind of like maybe like, A monkey trying to talk Chinese, something like that, you know?

[850] That's funny.

[851] A monkey trying to talk Chinese.

[852] Yeah, but like more grumbly, though, like more, and I've heard the low mumble.

[853] They mumble, like, so the idea is that they have a language or they just...

[854] Yeah, yeah, yeah, all the natives, any, you talk to any native anyone, they'll tell you, yeah, they have language.

[855] And they can understand certain words we say.

[856] They can understand certain words we're saying.

[857] But we don't have a video of one of these things.

[858] We don't have...

[859] Dude, the Patterson Giblin, the Freeman.

[860] Yeah, but they could be bullshit.

[861] No, okay, Freeman, I'm not so sure, but I can tell you for, yeah, there's been, and there's other breakthroughs going down on the Patterson Gillen film.

[862] What is the breakthroughs?

[863] They've actually found some of the original trees that were back behind.

[864] There's been so much regrowth that these guys, this guy, he's the State Park Ranger, like the Ranger cop up there for Humboldt Redwoods, him, Robert Letterman, and then another guy, Steve Strupert, the guy owns Bigfoot books there in Willow Creek, spent two years going out there and going over the site and finding and they've actually found some of the original trees that are obscured you can't see them from the creek pit anymore because it's been it's been 43 years or whatever 45 and um they're all grown up and uh they found trees in the background they're in the original pg film so we're going to go in there and uh with all this like 3D laser scanning stuff they're going to be able to get three -dimensional a three -dimensional view of the whole of the whole creek go back in plug in the PG film like overlay it and they'll get a three dimensional to like a half inch how big the how big the subject in the film is well what if it's only 510 then what do you do if it's only 510 I don't know I just don't see that happening I don't know I trust Bob you know because Bob Gimlin's a really good friend of mine he was right but he himself said but you said that he was badgered yeah but he'll tell you you'd love this guy.

[865] You would love to hang out this guy.

[866] I bet I would.

[867] I mean, I believe him.

[868] I'm not saying he's full of shit, but there's been a lot He says no way.

[869] He said there's no way.

[870] He said it had to be over 500 pounds.

[871] And this guy's expert Hunter and he's like watching the muscles move.

[872] There's like nine different muscle limits you can see in the video.

[873] Yeah, but isn't that possible you just put some fake muscles on it?

[874] Dude, the guy, Chambers that made, it made, back in the 60s when that was made said he could not do that.

[875] He could not, he went to his death and said, because there was always a rumor that he did it.

[876] And he was just like, nope, I never did it.

[877] He goes, I wish I could have done that.

[878] And you're talking about two cowboys, dude.

[879] Roger was like unemployed at the time.

[880] Come up with, make, and Roger did buy a costume from, I think his name was Philip, his name was Morris out in North Carolina.

[881] He made a gorilla suit.

[882] And dude, it's a shitty $400 gorilla suit.

[883] It was for recreations in his documentary.

[884] And that's not the suit that he wore in the, so anyways, there's, there's controversy around it for sure, but there's always people look in they're like I just wish there was some better shit oh we all do and you know there's some footage that's going to be coming out that's in conjunction with the DNA study it's called the Kentucky footage and I've only seen part of it but people that have seen it say it's it's the real deal there's a face shot how many do you think are alive if you had a if you had a guess well we're going to start getting some hard evidence on that due to the DNA samples but I would say there can't people say there's got to be at least 2 ,000 just to have as many as there are around in North America and you're talking Canada and Canada's big too I'd say my guess would be probably 4 to 6 ,000 in North America how the fuck are there 4 to 6 ,000 things and no one has a good show yeah that's what I'm saying because for one thing dude you're shit you're looking at some giant 8 man your shit in your past people freeze or like where do they sleep you think do they make caves they they definitely go to caves in extreme weather really cold real hot native state where we live they use these there's there'll be fires in southern humble and smoke pops out in southern Oregon you know 150 miles away these caves are all connected oh really yeah it's the biggest cave complex in the world that's but that wouldn't explain everywhere but that's pretty badass I didn't know about that yeah you're talking on the side of your mic yeah thanks okay I didn't know about that that's interesting yeah so they sleep in caves they all the natives tell us that they bury their dead in caves will like pile it with rocks just put big rocks no man could move and in play places where no machinery is going to go either and they'll just cover the cave up there's we need to find out where the fuck those caves are dig them up and find some bigfoot bones that's what we were going to do with those cadaver dogs because we knew like um if that was the male that was shot um because the the rumor going around is it was a the mom but the DNA shows it was a male was the father hmm so maybe it was a grandpa so or grandpa whatever old and fucked up hunched over no muscle tone we'll see we'll see so And it was, if we could have got those, I'm sure, I can't imagine them, it was as big as you said it was, I couldn't see them carrying it more than a mile or two, you know, from there and then finally, and there was cliffs down the back side, there was other cave entrances around, and they know that area like no one else, and who knows where they put it, but I can't imagine them carrying a 600 -pound carcass not far.

[885] Right, but you got to assume, too, that you remember that movie Grizzly Man. Did you see that movie?

[886] Oh, yeah, I love it.

[887] Great movie.

[888] Where the dude, they shot a grizzly.

[889] When they came back, just, I think it was a couple months later, there was nothing left.

[890] Little tiny pieces of bone, you know, I mean, even a 600 -pound Sasquatch or something, if you left the bone behind in the jungle or in the woods, rather, it's not going to last for long.

[891] No. This is all ecosystem, a whole cycle set up.

[892] Like people say, well, where's the dead ones?

[893] Well, where's the dead mountain lions?

[894] Right.

[895] We know there's mountain lions, okay?

[896] And mountain lions live way closer to people in civilization.

[897] I mean, they're like at the edge.

[898] They killed a mountain line in Santa Monica a couple months ago.

[899] There was a mountain line sodding in my neighborhood a couple weeks ago.

[900] There's mountain lines.

[901] You know?

[902] The tiger that got loose up off the 101.

[903] That's 600 pound orange tiger run.

[904] It ran loose for three and a half weeks in a six by two and a half mile stretch of, you know, up there.

[905] They had helicopters they brought in the six best track.

[906] They brought in the six best track teams for fishing game with their dogs in all of California came in.

[907] But it was raining, it was winter, I don't know if it was raining.

[908] Uh -huh.

[909] But they looked for that Bengal tiger for three weeks right there off the freeway, and, you know, between Malibu and the valley, and couldn't find it until it walked up to somebody's backyard and was staring at a poodle.

[910] Dude, what a fucking terrifying look that must have been.

[911] Looking for a giant Bengal tiger that hasn't eaten in a week.

[912] Right.

[913] Or two weeks or whatever the hell it is.

[914] And it's wandering around.

[915] So every corner you turn, that might be it.

[916] Every time you go down a back alley, that might be it.

[917] Dude, we were just in a tiger preserve and Sumatra looking for the Arang Pindek.

[918] That's a, that's a different sort of.

[919] Totally different.

[920] Totally different.

[921] Smaller.

[922] Way smaller.

[923] Yeah.

[924] And they're not related.

[925] I don't think.

[926] Well, you know, we're all related at some point.

[927] And is there evidence of this thing?

[928] Oh, dude, that is like that's the, that's the, that, of all cryptids, that's the one that all scientists agree is, dude, the lady that runs the UN program down there for like wildlife survey.

[929] She's seen it three times.

[930] Really?

[931] Yeah.

[932] And what does she say it is?

[933] It's some kind of upright orangutan that walks on two feet.

[934] It's about a meter tall or so, but up to like 200, like maybe three, three and a half feet tall, about 200 pounds, ball of muscle.

[935] Whoa.

[936] Yeah.

[937] And so we were out there at night and we couldn't, like, we couldn't get any of the locals.

[938] Go out, the porters.

[939] They were scared of death because those tigers, they're man -eaters.

[940] They eat man. The tigers, yeah.

[941] Yeah, we were out there at night looking for a ring, Pendex.

[942] And they, so you guys went out at night in the tiger preserve.

[943] You did?

[944] Yeah.

[945] Jesus fucking Christ.

[946] What were you thinking?

[947] That's crazy.

[948] I was thinking it's going to take Moneymaker.

[949] Do you think it was going to get him first?

[950] I was hoping.

[951] Why?

[952] Is he the slow one?

[953] Slower than me. Slower than you.

[954] Yeah, everybody's slow compared to a tiger man. You know, they said, I said, well, we're in a big group.

[955] Like, the last guy got out here like the month before, whatever.

[956] They were walking in a group.

[957] They went out a group of 15 people, and it jumped right in the middle of land.

[958] A guy crushed his skull, ran off with the guy dead.

[959] Well, you know what he did once.

[960] I used to do a bit about it in my act there was a boat and I forget how many guys were in the boat but this tiger swam out to the boat three times killed three fucking people before it got tired of doing it swam out climbed in the boat killed a guy dragged his body ashore jump back in the water swam out to the boat killed another guy and they're just rowing like a motherfucker trying to get away from this thing they just got bored just one night yeah just one day they hunt those boats I mean, those are those illegal wood guys, and they get eaten all the time.

[961] They could swim like a motherfucker.

[962] I did not know that they could swim like that.

[963] They're the aquatic cat.

[964] That's a scary animal, man. They're nother than polar bears.

[965] Yeah, they're right up there.

[966] Yeah.

[967] The thing about polar bears, though, is they did just start eating you.

[968] Right.

[969] They don't kill you first.

[970] A tiger at least has the good grace to crush your windpipe and then take you out quick.

[971] Polar bears eat you dick first.

[972] Right.

[973] They just start chewing on any part.

[974] part they can hold down, just like a salmon.

[975] Yeah.

[976] You were saying something crazy before that you have to leave salmon out for Sasquatches in some places.

[977] They throw rocks at people.

[978] Yeah.

[979] Like, when you talk to the native, my thing was always going to the tribes and talking like as many elders as I could.

[980] Right.

[981] Most of them, it's changing now more and more.

[982] A lot of the elders that talk to me now say the kids today are like they're all in a hip -hop, like NBA, like don't give a shit about any of the traditions or the stories or the knowledge and they just want to be like, they want to be.

[983] Westernized.

[984] And so they'll, they said they would never tell me. They were told, never tell white people, but they'll tell me because I'm respectful to the subject and I'm into it and I'm listening.

[985] So, but what you hear is you'll hear all these things like when my grandma was around, they used to do this or they used to do that.

[986] But the one thing that they still do up and down the whole Pacific coast, from California to Alaska is the native, you talked to any of those net poles when they put the gill nuts across the rivers, when they pull the nets, and if they don't put a salmon up on the bank, on the other bank for the squatch, it'll come down and throw rocks at them or pull the net in and take all the fish.

[987] Well, what they should do then is do that and then bring cameras.

[988] Don't leave them in a salmon and bring cameras and boom, you got Sasquatch.

[989] It seems like they bait them.

[990] They want them to get this food.

[991] It's an offering, right?

[992] But they almost never see them take it.

[993] They'll only take it when you're not there.

[994] Well, set up cameras.

[995] Set up some cameras, leave a fish.

[996] That seems like the easiest way in the world.

[997] They're Jedi.

[998] man like they it's so crazy we don't know this is the electromagnetic field around things they pick up on but they are hip to a lot of but they have walked in front of game cameras before and stuff so they have yeah we just there's some game cam photos out there really yeah what do that work what i're gonna find those uh game camera photos i might even have one this guy might have just sent me one another day I might have one on my phone yeah bigfoot was one of the first things that google pulled up isn't that funny game camera photos bigfoot was one the very first things.

[999] You know why?

[1000] Google knows I'm a retard.

[1001] Dude, it says you're a smart guy.

[1002] Oh, this one that's totally fake as fuck.

[1003] Well, most of them are, we just saw, I don't think this one's on the internet yet.

[1004] This guy has it.

[1005] Wow, this one's trippy.

[1006] This one looks like a monkey.

[1007] It's like a four, like something on four legs.

[1008] That's fake.

[1009] It's fake?

[1010] Yeah.

[1011] No, they have to walk on two legs or they're not real.

[1012] They're not legit.

[1013] Oh, no, they go on four sometimes for sure.

[1014] They'll knuckle walk, especially the young ones yeah some of these look really fake god which ones do you discern whether they're fake or real um god i wish i could get a hold of cliff and have them send you one right now the lot of the best ones dude people don't you'd be surprised you most people aren't looking for fame and fortune like with this the most of the stuff that gets caught oh the magoyan we went to the magoyan rim dude you know you talk about you know the pacific northwest the fifth largest pine forest in north america's in Arizona.

[1015] Really?

[1016] The McGowan Rim, that's where this is.

[1017] This might have even been the video we did now.

[1018] What are you slowing down to a quarter speed?

[1019] What is this?

[1020] I don't see shit.

[1021] It's hard when we take something from YouTube, though, and put on a monitor and blow it up.

[1022] I'm not even sure of that video is.

[1023] Well, yeah, all the footage that's with Bigfoot, none of it's in like the HD or anything like that.

[1024] It's always like this, you know, really low quality.

[1025] How convenient.

[1026] You know what's funny, dude, is that the best DNA sample from Asia came from Destination Truth.

[1027] You know that TV show, Destination Truth?

[1028] Yeah.

[1029] It's kind of hokey, whatever.

[1030] Yeah.

[1031] You know, they just aired it, I think, the Vietnam episode.

[1032] And our team's going to go there because the thing ran past the cameraman at the base camp, ran right by him on the side, like a big eight -footer.

[1033] And they got four good footprint cast because it stepped in mud in a couple spots.

[1034] and uh really yeah they got d and that's the this is destination truth yeah the vietnam i think it just aired like last night or the night before or something i don't know i was on i was up in the mountains so i wasn't and it's a bigfoot it's a vietnamese one they call them rock apes so the the nonvets call them rock apes because they did you ever read about that the vietnamese bigfoot no i've never heard uh rock apes oh did you talk to um in those old lurp guys or any of those old uh non like the ford ranger guys and the You know, behind the enemy lines guys, or even guys just regular army guys, when they were up in the northeast, like in the Hmong territory, the rocks would throw apes out of them.

[1035] They'd call them rock apes.

[1036] They'd throw rocks out of them.

[1037] They found several footprints, and they also caught something on thermal imaging that might have been a bipedal creature.

[1038] It says, however, in the end, Gates couldn't be sure that they found evidence of Batututut.

[1039] Is that what they say it?

[1040] I don't know how they say it.

[1041] Batututut, which led...

[1042] some viewers to vent their frustrations on Twitter.

[1043] Well, people vent their frustrations on Twitter no matter what you do.

[1044] I don't even want to read Twitter after all the what -ifs that we've thrown in today on the Bigfoot front.

[1045] Just read the smart people.

[1046] I don't have a smart filter.

[1047] I need a smart filter for Twitter.

[1048] No, the idiots, they should have their say too, as long as they're not cunts.

[1049] Right?

[1050] I honestly don't, I don't read any reviews.

[1051] I don't read, I don't look at any of those Bigfoot websites.

[1052] I don't...

[1053] Really?

[1054] How come?

[1055] It's just, you know, it's like, you know...

[1056] You must get tired of people saying that you're crazy.

[1057] Bigfoot's fake.

[1058] Because, like, I said that I was going to talk to you about this today because all my life, like I said, I've read so many books on Bigfoot.

[1059] I've watched so many documentaries.

[1060] I've always been fascinated by it.

[1061] Immediately people are like, fucking Bigfoot's fake.

[1062] Fucking Bigfoot's fake.

[1063] Like, no, you don't know Bigfoot's fake.

[1064] You just a dick.

[1065] you want everything to be negative you fuck right you know it's like when people say well I think that this is my theory it's like like I've said this thing for like you know over 30 years and spent 25 years looking in the field actively and I mean I know they're real I've seen them for myself I heard them I've talked to thousands of people that have seen them that are legitimate I mean I've seen them myself I know they're real and so when people go well I think this and I have something happening like they just thought of it in five minutes and it's like well that's like me going to some like you know, astrophysicist guy that's in a lab with a giant telescope looking up 30 foot telescope looking at the stars studying, you know, he's got a PhD in astronomy and I go, I think the moon's made a cheese.

[1066] That's what I think.

[1067] That's like when people come to me and talk about they think about Bigfoot, they know what the fuck they're talking about.

[1068] Yeah, it's one of those things, man. It's one of those things where I would imagine it would get really annoying if that was your life's dedication.

[1069] I can say I believe in Bigfoot and people call me an idiot.

[1070] I'm like, whatever.

[1071] I'm fucking close to fear factor.

[1072] I'm the fucking stand -up comedian.

[1073] You know, there's a lot of evidence.

[1074] I'm probably an idiot.

[1075] The Bigfoot thing is just one little piece of the puzzle.

[1076] That shows you're smart, though, really.

[1077] Well, I leave everything open.

[1078] You know, I leave open the possibility.

[1079] There's a lot of things that I leave open.

[1080] Probably ridiculous.

[1081] But that's, to me, that one makes sense.

[1082] There's just too many people that have seen something.

[1083] If one of them is true, it's real.

[1084] There's too many different names for it in Native American languages.

[1085] I believe there's more than a hundred different names.

[1086] There's like 508 categorized for North America.

[1087] Yeah.

[1088] What's that?

[1089] There's not that many things that they believe that aren't real.

[1090] You know, they have like, you know, they pray to certain gods that, you know, like their rain gods and fire gods and all that kind of shit.

[1091] But they don't have like things that aren't real.

[1092] They don't have too many like.

[1093] Or they're spirit animals.

[1094] Yeah.

[1095] And Bigfoot's in both worlds.

[1096] Bigfoot's the one at, well, some of them have, like...

[1097] They think it's a real animal, though.

[1098] But, yeah, it's real.

[1099] They're not...

[1100] Dude, no native will tell you they're an animal.

[1101] They're a type of people.

[1102] So they think it's just a sub...

[1103] They say it's a tribe.

[1104] A tribe.

[1105] Wow, they think of it as a tribe.

[1106] Oh, yeah.

[1107] You know what?

[1108] We were just in Australia with the aboriginals.

[1109] Those guys blew my mind, and they have so much knowledge about these things.

[1110] So they have them in Australia?

[1111] Oh, yeah.

[1112] How the fuck did they get to Australia?

[1113] We got our...

[1114] How did the Bigfoot get to Australia?

[1115] They're not sure.

[1116] The aboriginals all say they were there when they got there 50 ,000 years ago.

[1117] So the Bigfoot's are good at avoiding people on every continent.

[1118] It's not like one group of Bigfoot's.

[1119] It's a retard race.

[1120] You know, they see them in the summer way north where it's daylight all day long, like way northern Canada and stuff.

[1121] They'll see them like in small like outpost villages, like native villages.

[1122] They'll come in because they'll go to the garbage in the middle of the day and it's like why don't you guys film they just they just don't what why would they just not that doesn't make any sense in 2012 that you would see the kids there's a lot of kids now say they're you know because of our show too like more kids are in it like they're like oh you know like hey we're going to try to film it but these people just don't what do you mean they just don't that's crazy how could you is it's just is it what's that is it crazy have you guys spend any time on it don't think it is Brian no I don't think it's crazy what do you think you know they're busy looking for this thing hunting it they don't wouldn't carry a camera around for that one second no these people aren't looking for big foot these people live there Brian are you playing devil's advocate I just I just know yeah I was just kidding to me I just can't believe that that one person doesn't have like one of those go cams on those HD go cams that cost $89 or something like that has fucking crazy if it happened it's going to technology is catching up to the squash for sure yeah it's going to be the drones that catch them I'd I don't know, dude.

[1123] So do you believe that they're all over the country?

[1124] You believe they're in.

[1125] I know they are.

[1126] I've personally heard them.

[1127] I've personally heard them in Oregon, Washington, California, Alaska, Florida, Kentucky.

[1128] Florida.

[1129] Yeah, the skunkie.

[1130] Really?

[1131] In Florida.

[1132] Yeah, New York.

[1133] Sure, that's just not a Cuban.

[1134] How dare you.

[1135] Ozzy Gion over here.

[1136] Well, they have started seeing mountain lines in Florida again.

[1137] Oh, you know, just another reason, like, government.

[1138] doesn't want to acknowledge Bigfoot is, there's a few reasons government doesn't want to do, but everywhere we go, when we go these places, they say there's no mountain lions here, but they're here, you know, you keep hearing that, until one gets hit by, or someone who gets shoots one.

[1139] Well, one got shot one recently in Ottawa.

[1140] They thought they had been extinct in Canada or in that part of Canada for more than, since then 1800s.

[1141] Right.

[1142] That was the last sighting that they had and they shot a big one, man. They're spread out, they don't want to do, they shot one in Connecticut.

[1143] Yeah, how about that?

[1144] But you have to have a management plan and it costs million, these states are all strapped you have to have a management plan they don't want to acknowledge that's why they say we don't have them because they don't want to have to deal with them but with bigfoot i think it was more just it what's really going to be interesting when it comes out they're real here soon is to be the whole mind like i think there's going to be like a lot of phd students write papers on this and like psychiatrists and psychologists are going to write books and this and on how these things there's all this evidence and stories and just everything right there in front of you and people refuse to acknowledge it well i I think one of the reasons why they refused to acknowledge is what we've talked about before.

[1145] There's so many people that fake UFO stories.

[1146] There's so many people that fake UFO stories.

[1147] And people are fucking crazy.

[1148] And there's a lot of people out there.

[1149] How a lot of people fake bigfoot stories really?

[1150] You don't think so?

[1151] I think anything cryptic, man. I think lockness, anything UFO, anything bigfoot.

[1152] I think ghosts, there's a lot of people that are full of shit when it comes to those stories.

[1153] Because those are like fun stories to bring up.

[1154] You know, like if people say they saw a crocodile, I generally, genuinely believe them.

[1155] When you start saying you saw some shit that's in the cryptic realm, man, you might have seen it, but it also might be that you're one of those crazy fox that likes to pretend you saw something awesome.

[1156] You talk to those people long enough, but it comes to a parent, that's what's going on.

[1157] See, I wish I was on your show then, because I'm way better at that than most people.

[1158] I'm really good at sniffing out bullshit.

[1159] Really good.

[1160] We're getting ready to jump the shark here probably pretty soon because we're running out of videos to look at, and they're talking about having celebrities come on.

[1161] Dude, I'll come on.

[1162] We got a lot.

[1163] I'll come on and just let me come on and screen your guests.

[1164] I go, this guy's crazy.

[1165] That'd be awesome.

[1166] This guy's full of shit.

[1167] They'd be screaming at me. Like, dude, you're not telling the truth.

[1168] I know when people are telling the truth.

[1169] I smell them.

[1170] It's weird.

[1171] I've always been good at knowing crazy people.

[1172] So if you bring me in front of a crazy dude and he tells you a Bigfoot story, I'm going to tell you he's full of shit.

[1173] Well, yeah.

[1174] So, I mean, I don't believe everything I hear.

[1175] People go, you guys believe everything you hear on there.

[1176] It's like, well, most witnesses we're dealing with have already been vetted.

[1177] You had this one show where there was this one, obviously gay guy who's like.

[1178] Oh, Nick.

[1179] Yeah.

[1180] Who's like, I saw, it was right here.

[1181] The Bigfoot was right.

[1182] I'm like, bitch, you didn't see nothing.

[1183] No, no, that guy.

[1184] He's just trying to drag some dudes into the woods and hope somebody stumbles on your dick.

[1185] That guy was a wildlife biologist.

[1186] Is he?

[1187] Oh, good for him.

[1188] He's full of shit, too.

[1189] No. I don't think so.

[1190] No, no. I totally believe that guy.

[1191] He seemed like he was making it up as he went along to me. No, he was a great, dude.

[1192] He was great.

[1193] Yeah.

[1194] Yeah, he, so you firmly believe that that guy saw a Bigfoot.

[1195] Yeah, we spent.

[1196] Where was his camera?

[1197] this son of a bitch we were with that guy for a week like he was our like local guide right and he showed us around and um he was he was fun you'd love that guy he's hilarious but um he was our guide for a week so we were with the guy for a week and matt knew the guy for several years already he'd been on different expeditions around the country with him and he'd never he's you know and usually when people start telling those stories like more will come up and it changes right right his story is just the same all the way through it So he wrote it down.

[1198] He's smart.

[1199] He's good job.

[1200] He did well.

[1201] I'm not saying.

[1202] I don't know.

[1203] He might be the one guy that's telling the truth, right?

[1204] The one guy that we're all sure is lying.

[1205] We'll see if you think he is, too.

[1206] This season?

[1207] I'm sure I'll think he's lying.

[1208] If you think he's lying, I think almost everybody's lying.

[1209] Dude?

[1210] Yeah, most people.

[1211] You know, I think if you lived out in the woods and you lived in a rural community where there are Bigfoot's around and you've talked to so many people that, like, Dude, I like Bigfoot so much.

[1212] I thought of getting, uh, buying land in the Pacific Northwest.

[1213] just to live in the summers with hope of seeing a big...

[1214] Dude, I know...

[1215] That's how fucking stupid I am.

[1216] I know the place it's for sale right now.

[1217] Really?

[1218] Yeah.

[1219] Where is it?

[1220] You selling real estate now?

[1221] No, no, no. Bigfoot sighting spots.

[1222] That would be a good move, dude.

[1223] I'm talking to the guy about trying to buy it right now.

[1224] If you went and you bought real estate in heavy bigfoot areas and set up...

[1225] That's the plan.

[1226] That's the plan.

[1227] That's the plan.

[1228] Yeah, man. If you live, like, somewhere in the Pacific Northwest in an area there's heavy -duty bigfoot sightings, just fucking set up cameras.

[1229] everywhere everywhere and every day you go and check those cameras you got to set well that's that's what the olympic project is going on right now they actually one of the one of the best pieces of DNA from the Olympic project is this weird looking bigfoot they got pictures of it comes up and sniff the camera and licked it and they got saliva off the camera Olympic project yeah do they have these photos online can you see the photos of it I think so liking it so where did they take this saliva like they shipped it next day they brought it to a psychic prime no we have we have yeah We, we, you know, there's a lot of, there's a lot of cops involved in this, and we have, like, protocol we follow for collecting DNA evidence.

[1230] Because you guys would laugh about this.

[1231] I used to, I was on this crazy Squatch adventure, like, probably 2002, 2001, 2002.

[1232] And this thing, this guy bought property.

[1233] They've been abandoned for 11 years, and the squashes were living on the property.

[1234] And they didn't like him moving, and all this stuff happened.

[1235] But they, um, they, uh, they were, they were, they, they were, they'd find these huge scats in the woods and the woods.

[1236] on the property like giant like giant human shit's like you know it'd be like a foot high and 18 inches across at the base like big thick like two inch cables and I'd collect them and bring him down with the fishing game and drop up like check out this bigfoot you know scat you know can you guys DNA test it you know what can you do blah blah and then my buddy got a job at the fishing game like a couple years later about him all dude whatever happened to my samples he's like what you talk about all dude I brought all these bigfoot scat samples and I brought in some hair a couple times this and then he's like dude they told me out some crazy guy that brings it bear shit and drops it off they throw it away they never even looked at it oh that's funny they were probably like yeah yeah yeah we're gonna check on it for you it was like that very unprofessional that you pay for something you think that they have to give you some kind of results yeah they should really be checking they pay for it motherfuckers god damn tax dollars did he glue hair on his chest just for this big foot episode or no he's a savage you're a very good catcher Brian's an animal um it's a The Olympic Project says they have the research is in the Olympic Mountain Range in Washington State.

[1237] The Olympic Project is a comprehensive, systematic camera trap program consisting of 50 -plus cameras placed along predatory travel routes through the Olympic Mountains.

[1238] Our primary focus is to obtain a series of crystal clear photographs of Sasquatch in their natural environment.

[1239] So so far it says they haven't gotten anything.

[1240] Is that what it says?

[1241] Yeah, they have footprints.

[1242] They don't have any.

[1243] No, no, there's, they, see, everyone had to sign NDA.

[1244] about the DNA so that could be why that's not on there but I've seen the photos you didn't like I looked at I thought I was a sock puppet when I first looked at it but the DNA came back legit yeah this doesn't say here that they have anything it doesn't no doesn't not on their website dude I'll call the guy Derek they have bears and dears it's cool looking oh they've worn they've won all the game camp photos ever like the there's those big contests every like 5 ,000 first place that's fucking badass man they've got some awesome photos.

[1245] They do have a lot of great wildlife photos.

[1246] You see the mountain lions stock on the buck and the buck doesn't see it?

[1247] Yeah.

[1248] They went first plaza last year with that one.

[1249] It's really cool, man. They show this mountain lion walking through the snow too.

[1250] And they're a bunch of bears, including bears standing upright, which is pretty fucking cool.

[1251] Bears getting really close to the trap.

[1252] Coyotes, elk.

[1253] I mean, their camera trap photos make me want to buy some land and set up camera traps.

[1254] They'll be badass just to see different shit every day.

[1255] And the other problem with those...

[1256] Huge elk.

[1257] Yeah, oh, dude, that's, yeah.

[1258] A mountain line got right up to the camera.

[1259] Oh, shit.

[1260] See, they look, dude, they notice it.

[1261] Like, animals, if you look at most of the pictures, like, they'll be looking at the camera, at least on the second shot.

[1262] They'll, that infrared flash goes off, they look.

[1263] And, dude, there's been a lot of cameras.

[1264] The squatches, they'll break them.

[1265] They'll turn, flip them around backwards.

[1266] I put a camera traps from, I was, they walked into a camp one night I was in, and I had the cameras all hidden, like, in tall grass and stuff, and they were all pushed down, but all were pushed down so that the lens was facing the ground wow these can't folks you should just check it out just go to the olympic project dot com just to look at the actual real animals the bobcats the wildlife no fucking bigfoot though they got they got a they got a photo of elk fucking some elks paused right in front of the camera and fucked this is amazing hey can you put it back up on that one i can see yeah put up an olympic project this is a amazing the The photos are amazing, man, but no Bigfoot, man. They got a bear look in the camera.

[1267] There's a two shot.

[1268] There's two shots of a squatch coming up to the camera real close.

[1269] But it must not be on the way.

[1270] You don't know, I'll call Derek when we're done and have them.

[1271] Well, there's one that says bear gets close to the camera.

[1272] They don't, I don't see shit up here that's, uh, that says, that even says it's a big foot.

[1273] You know, I don't think it's up there just because of the NDA.

[1274] Here, I got it right here.

[1275] Yeah, there it is.

[1276] That's it.

[1277] Yeah, scroll down.

[1278] The photos are awesome, man. it's really cool they're saying that's a squatch right there what that mountain line looking fat no no down the next one down that's a squatch wait where's the one where you can see its whole arm and eyeball and stuff the creature reappears so wait go back up oh there that one yeah okay they've done all this analyzation on that and that hair pattern the strietian patterns on that and the the the the that's like seven that thing's like seven feet off the ground so it could be a bear right no bears don't get over six 66 would be the top like a trophy bear they don't what kind of bear black bears there's only black only black bears like a producer guy a 6 6 is like about as big as a black bear gets 6 foot's huge for a black bear Brian which uh which page did you look at Olympic project .com possible squatch sightings possible squash sightings it's on the menu yeah but did you guys patent the word squatch because I had never heard it I should have is that you did you come up with it um I know Scott Harriet you never know that guy is a comedian Scott what's his name Harriet no he wasn't like big time or anything but I know he did a documentary called squatching but I never heard anyone say it before I said it Randy Licky man this is or like I was the first bullshit yeah well can't see shit I agree I'm not too impressed but sons of bitches but do that but animal experts have looked at it and the hair doesn't match and the yeah but how could you I mean, you can't tell, like, an animal X or a pet co?

[1279] This is the problem.

[1280] The problem is, it's blurry as fuck.

[1281] Their best shit is blurry as fuck.

[1282] Well, because it's set, the camera's set to take pictures like 30 feet away, not a foot.

[1283] But their photo gallery is amazing, man. Yeah, yeah.

[1284] I don't care if it's set to take 30.

[1285] There should be a photo, man. There should be a photo one of these fucking things.

[1286] There'll be one comment.

[1287] I hope so, man. It's frustrating, dude.

[1288] It's really frustrating.

[1289] It must be.

[1290] What if they found out that it wasn't real?

[1291] What did you found out you've been duped?

[1292] See, that is.

[1293] There's no way you got duped.

[1294] There's no, I'm not worried about that at all.

[1295] So what you saw was so conclusive that you're 100 % sure.

[1296] Why didn't you have a camera one of those 12 times?

[1297] I did, but it was the only one I saw on the daylight I didn't because my, my shit got ripped off.

[1298] Like when you.

[1299] So conveniently.

[1300] Leave your truck.

[1301] Well, not that day.

[1302] The big foot psychically knew that your camera wasn't present.

[1303] Imagine if they're so sensitive.

[1304] If I would have had a camera, I wouldn't have a picture.

[1305] You think so?

[1306] I wouldn't have.

[1307] It was only there for, it was less.

[1308] I saw it for like literally like half a second.

[1309] It was just gone.

[1310] Once Google goggles comes out.

[1311] People need to go hiking for Sasquatch.

[1312] People are, there's people wearing those now, like those little...

[1313] Go -pros.

[1314] Yeah, well, not even, they have smaller ones, even like little spy ones.

[1315] Right.

[1316] Yeah, but those ones suck.

[1317] The resolutions suck.

[1318] The GoPro's are like HD, so it's like...

[1319] No, people are using GoPro.

[1320] People are mounting helmets.

[1321] Yeah, they have to.

[1322] Someone, this is, it's going to get ridiculous.

[1323] Oh, there's a new footage we think is real of a squatch down on the side of the road that some hillbillies got with a GoPro.

[1324] Really?

[1325] Yeah.

[1326] New footage.

[1327] Maybe if you look up from like two or three weeks ago, it's down on the side of the road, It's up in Canada somewhere.

[1328] New Bigfoot footage.

[1329] What would you look up on YouTube?

[1330] Canadian Bigfoot, maybe GoPro.

[1331] A lot of sightings come from Canada, Canada.

[1332] Oh, yeah, yeah.

[1333] And like, you know, if crazy, if it was just crazy people reporting them, there'd be just as many settings in Hawaii, right?

[1334] Right.

[1335] Or Rhode Island.

[1336] Well, not really.

[1337] Yeah, if there was not enough place for them behind the one.

[1338] In 1900 or 1850, everyone knew what a unicorn was, and no one knew what a Bigfoot was.

[1339] but you can find hundreds and hundreds of newspaper clippings about people seeing a giant ape.

[1340] There's no people saying they saw a unicorn.

[1341] Right.

[1342] Yeah.

[1343] Yeah, it's always the same thing, right?

[1344] Yeah.

[1345] And it follows the same patterns.

[1346] Like, when we were in Australia, like we'd always heard that Yauis were different than, that's what they call them, the aboriginals in Australia call them Yauys.

[1347] We'd always heard Yauys were different than Bigfoots.

[1348] When we were down there, we found out they're Bigfoots, man. I mean, the way they act, we heard the best stuff we recorded was in australia you think they're exactly the same i don't know about that but the the action the patterns all that was the same did you have photos of anything that you got in australia like what is what you're saying all the patterns are the behavioral patterns and and what people describe is there's a little like you know maybe the difference between like a like a european gray wolf and a north american grill you know what i mean like same genus and all that but But again, there's a lot of photos of wolves.

[1349] Yeah, but they did the biggest, the biggest, they did a three -year study on wolverines.

[1350] All those wolverines you see on shows are in wildlife parks.

[1351] They've been like babies that were captured when their mother got killed or whatever.

[1352] But they did a three -year study, millions of dollars spent on this.

[1353] And the only footage they got was from like four to five hundred yards away on a snowfield of a wolvering going away.

[1354] And that was a well -equipped, professionally funded, looking for a known.

[1355] animal, and they got one clip in three years.

[1356] That's pretty crazy.

[1357] Yeah, it's like snow leopards.

[1358] They didn't get any footage of snow lepers until like 2007.

[1359] Do you think that people just underestimate the amount of actual forest there is in this country?

[1360] It doesn't you don't need a million acres of forest for a squatch to hide.

[1361] Well, you think you would because otherwise people would run into it.

[1362] People run into them all the time.

[1363] They're seeing all, it's just not that, you guys expect to be in the paper.

[1364] I need a fucking photo.

[1365] Just one.

[1366] Just one.

[1367] I can't find any of this.

[1368] I've been with squatchers and stuff that it said like, yeah, I had my camera around my neck or I was holding it and I saw it and it looked at me and they just shit their pants and froze.

[1369] And even after the thing was gone, they didn't even take a picture until it was gone.

[1370] Yeah, I'm looking at this Canadian, the new Canadian bigfoot footage.

[1371] Is it the one on the side of the road?

[1372] It's down on the side, stand down like below the, below.

[1373] He's like walking through a trail.

[1374] No, no, this thing's just, it's just a car drives by and it's down on the side of the road, just down there.

[1375] Oh, really?

[1376] No, this one's different.

[1377] This one's a dude walking through the wall.

[1378] And when I say hillbilly, I don't mean any negative connotation of that.

[1379] To me, it's like a compliment.

[1380] Hillbilly's a compliment?

[1381] I say redneck and hillbilly.

[1382] I don't mean anything bad by it at all.

[1383] Well, a lot of rednecks do like being rednecks.

[1384] Yeah, but hillbillies don't like being called hillbillies usually.

[1385] No?

[1386] No, I found that out the hard way.

[1387] Well, this, why, they tried to fight you?

[1388] Doos get mad at him?

[1389] Yeah, they'd get offended.

[1390] Like, one of the witnesses got really mad that I, you know, I was just joking around.

[1391] I'm like, man, that's some hillbilly shit there, you know, and he got real offended.

[1392] And it was like...

[1393] Well, he's probably crazy.

[1394] That's why he's making up a Bigfoot story.

[1395] And getting offended.

[1396] Here we go.

[1397] A son of a bitch.

[1398] Here's the original video is over an hour long.

[1399] So what were they doing?

[1400] They were driving around.

[1401] Yeah, this one.

[1402] It's real quick.

[1403] It's either a dude...

[1404] It's either a racist video.

[1405] Where is this thing?

[1406] Down the right, right in the...

[1407] Right in the...

[1408] Right there.

[1409] Highlight it for us?

[1410] Oh, wow.

[1411] What?

[1412] Why am I not seeing it?

[1413] You don't, gee, see where the shadow starts?

[1414] It's right in front of the first shot.

[1415] Right there.

[1416] See?

[1417] Really?

[1418] But what's weird.

[1419] Stop, if you go one more, a couple more frames, it's really clear.

[1420] Right there.

[1421] But that photo they just showed, oddly enough, was like a million times better resolution.

[1422] Yeah, that looks fake as fuck.

[1423] How is that so good?

[1424] Then this.

[1425] which is on that is kind of weird but it seems like it seems like a trick of light and shadows to me really yeah because it seems like it's well maybe it's because of the resolution of the video it could be we're going to go check it out see how it's on the side right there yeah like right that's the clearest frame of their own video they went back later and filmed it and it's not there or it's not there so it's either a man in a suit or a squash I think and then these guys released this video this would have been right here.

[1426] Yeah, that's so clear.

[1427] And that's, I mean, this is the same, same footage that they're, you know.

[1428] Listen, man, that's some shadows.

[1429] I can save you some money.

[1430] Don't go on that trip.

[1431] Do we got to go look at something.

[1432] Yeah, how many sightings do you guys get like a month that they ask you to investigate?

[1433] Oh, well, there's like, I'm not going to wade through all this shit.

[1434] Like, we get every video.

[1435] Like, they have a whole production team that just all I do is scour the internet.

[1436] Every day there's a new video.

[1437] Do you worry now that the show's a hit that people might start faking it?

[1438] Oh, totally.

[1439] Yeah.

[1440] We already are, we're getting that.

[1441] You must be right.

[1442] But I mean, we've been doing this B -Clip, Matt had all been doing this like 20 years.

[1443] We're pretty good at filtering people out pretty quick.

[1444] Like, we caught one guy hoaxing in the Ohio episode.

[1445] Really?

[1446] Wasn't it?

[1447] Brian's from a lot.

[1448] So blame him.

[1449] And they don't want us to see a lot of stuff ahead of time.

[1450] Like they want us to be surprised when we see it.

[1451] Right.

[1452] Well, we all know it just because we're in the Bigfoot community.

[1453] but you know I didn't see that video before and I'm looking at it on a monitor this big and then when you see it on home like on a big high -deaf TV and you're going you were fooled by that video at the beginning you know it's like well I just saw it on a black and white monitor like you know five -inch monitor or something but it was a guy you know and in a clip cliff bust him clip straight up called the guy a liar really right then the guy started like trembling and tearing up and stuff so he's a faker in a bitch yeah how dare you sir with your fake big footage.

[1454] Listen, man, I really want to believe.

[1455] I really do.

[1456] And I might be a little bit more skeptical than you, but I hold out hope.

[1457] I really, uh, it's not a matter to believe in it's to know right.

[1458] I wish I, I wish I shared your enthusiasm.

[1459] It'd be fun.

[1460] I'd be out there with you.

[1461] You're enthusiastic.

[1462] I'm very enthusiastic.

[1463] I hope it's real.

[1464] I just feel like there's a lot of fucking a lot of fuckery of foot.

[1465] But you know what I feel like, but yeah, but it's, but if any of it's real, then it's real.

[1466] Well, if one of them is real, then it's real.

[1467] Well, yours is real, right?

[1468] So you're yeah so it is real well if you've seen it yeah what you've seen is an unfuckery you know more than anybody which is probably why you're so crazy about doing it well i'm saying you know is more than the average person for sure um and even more than the average person researching it because you've seen it right how many researchers haven't seen anything does it has the chick on the show ever seen anything she seems to be the most skeptical she sorry what's her name Renee Renee yeah she saw something up in the Olympic peninsula when she where the Olympic project is where I just got back this weekend um she saw something she doesn't say what it was she said it it looked like it was tall and it was and there was like an arm like an arm and she she's like well it could have been a bear walking upright or it could have been a bear that was just starting to drop down as it was running like picking up speed on two legs getting ready to drop down and and but it she probably saw a squatch she's the most skeptical out of the group would you agree yeah that's her job too i mean there's been times where she was like holy shit that was a squash and they're like you can't say that you know like oh they tell her she can't say that well we're in oregon when we recorded those ones do that they do they they tell you what you're supposed to what role you're supposed to play in the show and she plays the skeptic role no well just when we were in oregon she was like when it happened she was like oh my god that had to like that had to be a squash it had to be a squash like look you can't you know you got why couldn't why they say she can't say that because then i guess like you know then she wouldn't be taken credible i'm probably gonna get totally in trouble for having said that.

[1469] Really?

[1470] Like, probably.

[1471] Yeah, well, they don't, well, they say, I've never been a part of a reality show like that.

[1472] She represents all the people at home that are skeptical.

[1473] That's her job is to represent them.

[1474] Like, what would they say?

[1475] Like, the person thinks it's all bullshit.

[1476] What would they, she's supposed to ask the question that that person is thinking?

[1477] What did she, when she was seeing something?

[1478] What did she see that made her so convinced?

[1479] She didn't see.

[1480] What did?

[1481] She heard.

[1482] Heard.

[1483] What did she hear?

[1484] Dude, we heard two squatches calling back and forth up in Malala River in Oregon.

[1485] And it's, it's, the episode but dude it was if you've ever heard of murphy's law murphy's law is nothing squatcher's law like what squatchers law if something's going to go wrong right when it happens it will like your battery dies or whatever like just whatever it may be happens right when we've got a call from the network going camera be whatever isn't working there's no all the tape you send us is blank we get this call we're out in the woods and like when it finally came through someone had come back from camp like the messages come in earlier that day and they're like you got to check the camera right now and check the audio like there's nothing synced up all and it just turned out the editor was totally blowing it but we stopped all filming he was you know putting the camera back in a playback mode to see what he had the sound guy was checking his stuff I had a parabolic dish that wasn't part of their stuff I had a parabolic to record and it was going from like it would clear up and get really cold then it would like kind of cloud back up and then get a little bit warmer so I had like five layers on I was taking off a layer because I was burning up and I had the parabolic that were in pitch black I put the parabolic on the brush and these things started screaming and I got my jet I had like my jet uh whatever my thermal I'm pulling off over my head right when this happens and we're everyone's like holy shit like you know what at first happened we were like no way and then by the time we got up and then the sound was coming between me and the camera guys like the whole crew is between me so I had the parabolic dish here and all it picked up was just these guys you know ripping open velcro like uncovering stuff and because it had been raining on and off guys going no way talk and so you can't hear any nothing comes through the parabolic.

[1486] I mean, it's like people go, and then we hear stuff everyone at homes, this is what I want them to put more effort into this is capturing what we hear.

[1487] Like we were a lapel mics that are made to block out all sound except for us talking.

[1488] Right, exactly.

[1489] They don't pick up screams in the distance.

[1490] They're designed not to.

[1491] Yeah.

[1492] So, but we do have a guy that's going out with us now that has the parabolic and he's, you know, but you have to be pointed like, if it's coming from right there and you're pointed here, you might not get it.

[1493] Right.

[1494] Like you got to be pointed right at it.

[1495] And we don't have the best.

[1496] last year for that it's kind of hokey do you know like when you hear something in the woods too it's kind of weird things echo off of trees and stuff it's hard to pinpoint exactly where it's coming from right totally like my ear um like i was you know big time in a surfing for a long time and oh you got that surfer yeah so like a bone grows in your ear yeah yeah and it's worse on my left ear and uh they fix that with surgery yeah they can i got to get it done but my hearing's really good though but it's like but it's my ear will cluck because the cavity is so small can clog up easy so sometimes it's clogged and whatever it's like but they should always show us going is that a squash or something like that and they never show like where we go like you know after we hear it again going oh that was a coy or that was a bear or whatever it was so you feel like they they edited hokey they try to make it a little bit about season one they did and I thought season two they did a good job and season three we'll see how they do that I mean season two the editors did a great job I thought that show got way better how many seasons have you done so far This is the third one?

[1497] We shot three.

[1498] They've shown two seasons.

[1499] We just finished the third, like 10 more episodes.

[1500] We just got picked up for seasons four and five.

[1501] We start next month.

[1502] So they're going to start airing season three in the fall.

[1503] We'll already be pumping in episodes for four.

[1504] And so they're going to air like seven and a half months straight every Sunday a new episode.

[1505] That's awesome.

[1506] So when you go out there, like how many, like if you take 100 trips, how many trips do you hear something or see some footprint or something?

[1507] um uh it seems to go in ways like i mean i haven't seen a squash since 2007 so i haven't seen anything for five years being out there a lot damn that's got to be frustrating yeah but from two thousand well is there every time i never i never i don't tell this story i don't count it because it was just so frustrating but my buddy and i bart we got foot it we know we know we got some but it's such an old school kind of shitty thermal it's just this big blurry heat thing you can't you can't prove anything that we know like all the sounds that were with it what happened it was a squash I was walking back out of the same place and I was big rainstorm and Cliff they got to show up me the other guy Cliff he had this guy Wallet he invented the ACDC adapter he's just like billionaire guy that was funding us buying us equipment and clip had just fried his recording unit like a $1 ,500 unit in the rain and while I told us like hey you guys can't be keep blown because he grew up poor even though he's like a billionaire guy still he grew up you know he's frugal guy like hey you guys can't be frying stuff out in the rain if it's rain and just put the stuff away you know so I was walking back out and to run the thermal you have a waterproof flap you have to open that stick in a cord that goes to a recording unit because now we have built in recorders with the thermal but then we did and I was walking back out and I got back down where we'd seen it three weeks before and it hadn't been a peep all that usually all the action happens way back up where I was coming from and I had walked a few miles and my truck was parked right off the right off the highway next to some houses and the thing ran it was just down behind my truck and if I had filmed it it would be clear cut like no it was way tall in the back of my truck I mean I have a shell that's about this high and it was above the shell so when I filmed it well I didn't film it when I looked at it right when I pulled my therm out of my pocket I'm looking at it and there's water big water drops coming down it so it like went blurry really quick what I was looking at but you could see it for a second and it just ran up the driveway and i never tell that story because everyone's like you had a recording in it and you didn't record it like you know blah blah blah that's got to be frustrating as fuck dude dude it that was like did you ever get tired of people saying that you're crazy no one says that no one when you talk to regular folks or you just like firmly embedded in the saskwatch i know i know i'm right i know i'm right i don't care what they say i know they're right to me it's like people going you're crazy that you know that the The sun goes around the earth.

[1508] So for you, it's just a matter of time.

[1509] I know it's coming out.

[1510] I know it's going to come out.

[1511] Like, all the stuff going on, there's no way.

[1512] And I mean, people talk about how there's not better footage.

[1513] Well, look who's trying to get the footage.

[1514] It's guys like me, you know, like running out Sony hand camcorders.

[1515] And it's not professionals.

[1516] And it's hard to get equipment back to where these things are.

[1517] If you're really talking about deep wood.

[1518] Oh, yeah, batteries.

[1519] Like all that kind of stuff, like generators.

[1520] How long do you stay out there when you do like a camp, when you go squatching?

[1521] like me and cliff did a two month or one time two months not deep but we'd come back and supply up that was like that was the long as we went straight two months so what you would go back like how often to civilization to get supplies oh whenever we wanted like at least once a week but you're just camping out there for two months yeah yeah Jesus Christ and then home home for like a couple weeks I went fishing did you get anything when you were out there for two months filmed nothing nothing no cliff took a year something cliff lived in long beach as a school teacher and i was like dude you know all these tv companies been calling me we're gonna we're gonna get a show going just quit your job come up we'll go squatch and just quit your job slayer house we'll go squatch him for a year and he did wow and we were out for like brian was ready to do that right now we spent like seven months of that year i think about it we did about seven months of that year out in the woods seven months out we had thermals and we'd drive at night you know we'd drive these roads real slow we had it pretty wired like to get good like and uh we thought it was going to be game over because i'd heard him so many times around me come up and growl and snap branches and stop their feet walking around two feet and stuff like that that i just thought with a thermal it's going to be give us a week left but it's two weeks max right and it's not the case at all like they they they i think they're they've been shot at so many times that even when it's pitch black they still are always taking that evasive action.

[1522] Do you think they can see in the dark?

[1523] Oh yeah.

[1524] I know they can.

[1525] They can definitely see in the dark.

[1526] So they're nocturnal creatures?

[1527] For the most part.

[1528] They're, they'll come out on the day too.

[1529] Like, you know, you've never seen their eyes up close though, right?

[1530] You see some.

[1531] The one I see in their eye, the one I saw in the daylight, the eye, it was the way the sun was coming down.

[1532] Its eye was so deep set and its brow was out so far.

[1533] I couldn't see that.

[1534] I remember that was one thing that struck me because it was that quick.

[1535] But the one thing I remember really clearly was, the hair was real shiny.

[1536] It was super skinny it was the arm was it's skinny this one was all the ones i seen at night were bulky except where i saw one about your size like well it was about 510 it looked like like a high school linebacker or something like 510 220 something like that so it was that adolescence a child yeah yeah yeah and uh but the the big ones i saw were all bulk like bulky and you know these are all you know through night vision or thermal from far away need a lot of fucking food they would think it would do a lot of damage and leave shits everywhere well they've been seen shit in like flowing water and in late like they're conscious about hiding their scat like really they just don't shit in the trail so you think they're like smart enough to know the people are a threat actively avoid people they are kind of people they're kind of people well I mean that foot's a footprint of a fucking human no no there's there's total difference you know what I mean I mean it's like it's built the big toe down the little toe yeah I mean not a gorilla for sure it looks like a giant human footprint superficially it looks like a human yeah well there's nothing else like that in the primary world that has a foot like that us and and well that's another interesting thing that came to like recently scientifically over the last decade they found that I think they call him homo florencis from yeah floreansis is that it oh god Cliff's gonna kill me he's always telling me how to say it right because I've always said it wrong when I read it I'd say it my head yeah wrong Florisiances okay well what it is folks that it's really like a hobbit like a real hobbit that really did exist and may even eight eight people it might there's a lot of evidence that they're still there really yeah well this this thing uh they found bones recently within the last decade and um really fascinating stuff they absolutely know that a very small type of human being existed and it was really like a it's not like a dwarf or like a mutation or uh you know a genetic screw up or any anything like that.

[1537] It's a whole species, a different, completely different species of human being that, um, they called the florist man or two.

[1538] They, but it's like a, they called it like a modern day hobbit.

[1539] And it's, it's amazing.

[1540] I mean, this is something that was mythological up until just a few years ago.

[1541] And now fact, scientific fact, they know for sure this existed.

[1542] This is a real small animal.

[1543] And where do they think this thing still lives?

[1544] Um, well, maybe the Cape York Peninsula of Australia, like the Straits of Torres, through their.

[1545] like between Australia and going up into Asia there's reports to them on islands up in there to this day and then in the 80s um a really respect he was a missionary to the aboriginals up in the cape york peninsula that goes up in austral that big point that goes up there's only like one road that goes around up there it's just empty and he was up there like visiting these real remote villages and he got a pack of them came up on him and what he described that that he had a forensic artist draw what he saw back then and it matches exactly what the reconstructions are from the remains they found in Flores Island.

[1546] Wow.

[1547] The Flores Man. Like it's a, um, how many do they think live up there?

[1548] They don't know.

[1549] And they don't even know if they're still.

[1550] Like the aboriginal say they haven't seen them.

[1551] They say they're still around, but they haven't seen him in a while.

[1552] Well, they say they haven't seen him.

[1553] We didn't talk to him and seen him within 10 years, but they're supposedly up in those islands up and they're still.

[1554] And like there's another type of big foot up in those.

[1555] We talked to this guy.

[1556] He's on Australia brought, he's like their version of like, uh, like, public radio down in Australia the Australian Broadcasting Corporation he's the naturalist for them like he identifies calls this and that he's a PhD he saw one in Papua New Guinea at like 9 ,000 feet doing a bird survey for the UN back in the 70s I mean so like they're seen like they're they're seen in islands too which is pretty trippy and well in 2004 if you ask any anthropologists how many how many hominids like us you know like homo branch like homo rectus well was alive 30 ,000 years ago, the answer would have been two, Neanderthal Homo sapien.

[1557] And now it's four.

[1558] You notice that the Hobbits?

[1559] And then they found that new kind of Neanderthal, like what are they called Desanova Man?

[1560] Or the one up in Russia they found two years ago.

[1561] And they got the DNA out of a giant knucklebone.

[1562] The knucklebone's like twice as big as a human.

[1563] And they got DNA out of that.

[1564] So now there's four hominid species that are known.

[1565] And when Squatch comes out, and from talking to people that I know that were part of the DNA study, is that it's not a tree it's not the homo sapien like how humans came the homo branch isn't a tree it's a very bushy plant it's it's a lot of lateral a lot of crossing and what the DNA shows is that there's five types of homin species in us there wasn't these clean breaks coming down through like right like most people are part Neanderthal most white people especially everyone that's It's not, like, Europeans.

[1566] They said that one MMA fighter, is Arlowski maybe?

[1567] It's 10%.

[1568] What, really?

[1569] Yeah, there's some.

[1570] Where'd you hear that?

[1571] God, who was I talking to?

[1572] It was some of those, part of that genetics say, but they've, they've got, they've got people 12 % people.

[1573] I think I would have heard that.

[1574] There's people in 12 % DNA, 12 % Neanderthals?

[1575] 12 % Neanderthal DNA in people like in, in, you know, like that area above Mongolia, Far East Russia.

[1576] Really?

[1577] Yeah, they've found...

[1578] If you're European, you're at least two percent.

[1579] Like, you have at least two percent Neanderthal.

[1580] Did you, have you seen that footage that's been going around the internet recently?

[1581] We talked about it on yesterday's podcast.

[1582] The Neanderthal and, like, Portugal, Spain.

[1583] Like the one picture that's sitting there on a rock looking over?

[1584] No, the Neanderthal that looks like a gorilla, besides the guy's idea that they weren't, they didn't look like us.

[1585] They had black skin like a gorilla and they were really scary and muscular, and they were.

[1586] fed on people and they were like a super predator he's already got that that theory's been refuted yeah yeah but it's fascinating there's a picture dude there's a picture of a possible neonatal just taken like last week that's up on the internet have you seen that no well dr meldron like he's impressed with it he doesn't authenticate it but he they think there might still be neanderthals oh yeah you haven't heard that no oh dude who thinks they might be neanderthals a lot of scientists over in in russia for one I don't see anything about his DNA and China's um they're launching um well they have Yaron over in China we're probably going to go over there we're probably going to go to Russia and China and check that stuff out on the show in China in China they have an animal they set aside a whole national park form recently what yeah Y -R -E -N and what is this thing supposedly it's like a Yeti a Yeti so it's in the Himalayas as of Tibet they just range out and I remember like that some of the best photos were uh from the Himalayas of footprints and a shipping photo and there was a scalp dude I can I know that whole story inside and out yeah whatever happened that scalp that they had found did they ever figure out what that thing is well for the monks uh Peter Burns stole some of this stuff he's still live up in Oregon he's about 85 86 he was an event he was on those original expeditions in the 50s.

[1587] He's still involved in Bigfoot research.

[1588] But there's two stories, and I'm not sure how they crossed, but they replaced the stuff that was out that people could look at with goat skins and just sewed it like the Yeti, but they actually kept the Yeti the Yeti scalp in like a sacred box.

[1589] And the other story is that, you know who's a big part of this was Jimmy God, you know, Mr. Smith goes to Washington.

[1590] Jimmy Stewart.

[1591] Oh, really?

[1592] It's big for.

[1593] Jimmy Stewart's looking for Sasquatch.

[1594] Hi, about here, looking for us.

[1595] He was a Hugh Axnitch, by the way.

[1596] He was a what?

[1597] Hughack snitch.

[1598] What is that?

[1599] House on American Affairs Committee when they blackballed all the people in Hollywood.

[1600] Yeah, he was a guy that ratted out all the guys in all.

[1601] Anyways.

[1602] Whoa, what a dick.

[1603] He was a full -on, like, anti -evolutionary, like, uh, really?

[1604] Creationist.

[1605] Oh.

[1606] It's because I'm on the air of the throne.

[1607] And he, uh, and it's, God made big for it.

[1608] There's a, there's a book coming out about detailing how he was buying these remains that it would come out of Asia.

[1609] Like he bought like, uh, uh, chaginopithecus stuff.

[1610] He bought other stuff and you'd have it destroyed.

[1611] What?

[1612] Jimmy Stewart did that?

[1613] And part of the theory, you know the Minnesota, you know the Minnesota, you know the Minnesota ice man?

[1614] You know the Minnesota ice man that block ice?

[1615] Oh yeah, yeah.

[1616] The guy, um, like that's a, that was, what they called him the name.

[1617] Um, Well, Minnesota Iceman is the most common.

[1618] Look, hey, punch that up.

[1619] Can you punch that up?

[1620] Minnesota Iceman.

[1621] There's a lot, like, they think that was a, well, the stories either got shot in Vietnam or in Russia.

[1622] It got shot above the eye.

[1623] And this guy is writing a book.

[1624] I know the guy that's writing the book.

[1625] He's, you know, a professor guy.

[1626] And supposedly there's a lot of evidence.

[1627] Jimmy Stewart bought that and had it destroyed.

[1628] What?

[1629] Yeah.

[1630] I'm thinking of the wrong thing.

[1631] I'm thinking of the, it wasn't Minnesota.

[1632] I'm thinking of the guy.

[1633] found in the glacier the ancient oh yeah yeah that guy yeah he was a straight person yeah this Minnesota ice man it's all like arm over its heads it's frozen in a block of ice and they showed it all over and then says it's a hoax so wow that probably what is that Wikipedia usually I say it's a hoax my dad uh Wikipedia yeah is a hoax wow it's just saying it's a hoax period history Well, no, look up the photos.

[1634] Bernal Hoveman's, who was like one of the top anthropologists in the world, studied that thing pretty close, and he staked his whole reputation, and it was real.

[1635] And what did he say it was?

[1636] I thought I was a Neanderthal that had been shot, like I recently shot Neanderthal.

[1637] That's it right there?

[1638] That's the face, yeah.

[1639] Because the power went out one time, and it started the ice started melting that it was in, and they said a distinct, rotten.

[1640] meat, odor, smell was coming out, like rotten flesh.

[1641] Now, what do they think if they think that the end of torts are real?

[1642] They just went away from it.

[1643] There's the body.

[1644] That looks like a five -year -old drew it.

[1645] Yeah.

[1646] Is that a drawing?

[1647] Yeah, that's a totally a drawing because, like, look at the...

[1648] Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's just showing you what it looks like.

[1649] Had, like, exaggerated sized hands and...

[1650] Huh.

[1651] Feet.

[1652] Where's their photos?

[1653] Is there a photo?

[1654] There's photos.

[1655] I don't know where the...

[1656] Yeah, there's photos.

[1657] There's, like, video of it and everything i mean i don't know where that it's all out and jimmy stewart had that destroyed well i don't know i mean that's just this guy that's what people he's talked to that's what he's heard well if we learned anything on the show it's fuck jimmy stewart i think we learned that hey easy i just strongly believe in jesus and don't believe in bigfoot i don't know man he thought it would shake people's faith in god if evolution was proven true what a silly bitch it's all fox magic joe well you know how does that shake your belief in god even if the bible was 100 % bullshit it shouldn't shake your belief it's possible that there could be a god but it's also possible that people are full of shit and that story sucks right that's like simple mathematics right and that if we apply to bigfoot means that there's a certain percentage of those bigfoot stories that are bullshit but I hope they're real I hope I hope there's a percentage that are real and that maybe soon we get something.

[1658] Give me something.

[1659] A fucking photo, a dead one.

[1660] What about the DNA?

[1661] If it comes out that it's true, yeah.

[1662] I mean, if it's peer -review study, Pruse.

[1663] Right.

[1664] Proofs conclusive.

[1665] That's the thing that's driving me crazy is like it should be out by now, at least, you know, it doesn't take that long to tell you what it is.

[1666] Well, it is when it's a new species and there's no type specimen.

[1667] If they had a type specimen, it would be easy.

[1668] Well, when you have a type specimen for deer or bear, it's real quick.

[1669] So when there's no type specimen, specimen, it takes a long time to do the DNA.

[1670] And when there's all kinds of markers showing homo sapien.

[1671] And people have these misperception of what DNA and how DNA works due to those TV shows.

[1672] CSI and shit.

[1673] Yeah.

[1674] I mean, that stuff.

[1675] If you're talking about a cryptid species, that has nothing to do.

[1676] I mean, those guys will, you got three billion genomes in your DNA strand.

[1677] And when they go to court, they just have to line up like seven, seven of those, like certain markers to get a conviction.

[1678] Right.

[1679] So, I mean, it's like...

[1680] Wow.

[1681] It's, when you're talking on $3 billion, and there had been all...

[1682] I thought there was like 30.

[1683] If you watch those shows, it looks like there's like...

[1684] Well, they can line up as many as they want, but they don't line up 30 of them.

[1685] Oh, right, right.

[1686] That's what it looks like.

[1687] But they don't line up all three billion.

[1688] They go to certain sections and line up those sections.

[1689] And what happened was with that, with the guy that sample he brought in the shooter, there's like, so there'd be strands with like 2 .9 billion in there, but a gap right here and a gap right here.

[1690] But you could line up other DNA.

[1691] samples and those gaps would fill in they'd all line up but then none of them were complete then he brought on the first complete one so now they just have to go to the peer review process and other people have to find the same conclusions that this woman yeah it's it's already happened what is the criticism about this woman again you never really got to that I've never met her in person I don't want a bad and I have people that I really respect and know that are smart people professional are working with her and really like her and I talk to other people are like dude she's shady so who knows right i don't i don't know i don't know her personally now when does uh the show uh when does uh season two has it or season three season two's over season three they just said sometime in the fall probably like sweeps week or something they're gonna air because you're still air in episodes they'll still like show em in repeats right i don't know popular show yeah it's real well right because it's like the second most popular in animal planet history didn't it didn't uh south park parody you guys yeah fuckers did they get you dude they fuck because we were all laughing like waiting for it and we all love South Park and like the producers that were going to show like comedians stand up comedians and stuff and like they love this show and there's money maker and fuck so we thought what we thought it was going to be was because we saw like we saw some little clip that it came out way earlier someone got a hold of somehow of it showed them like dressed up like us like wearing backpacks and stuff right and we thought for sure they were going to have Cartman play money maker you know because he he's like carbon and moneymaker like the same guy like Jimmy Stewart surrey and that's pretty good so then they made they made clip and Matt like normal and then they made me this fucking short retard that like is all scared like it was the most like they didn't get it I'm like this little short retard that is scared like I can't talk I don't talk all that great but so they got you the worst Oh, dude, I'm the only guy They slaughtered me Have you seen the episode?

[1692] No, I haven't seen it Brian told me it's awesome I try to find a clip of it I get Cartman hi Dude, we talked about the show On the podcast so many times That people will yell it During comedy shows Have you gone squatching yet?

[1693] Oh really?

[1694] Yeah, people thought You don't have this very squatchy area Have you seen the memes of you Were like, it was like What's a meme?

[1695] A meme is like an internet photo That they add Lel words to and then it gets passed on so many times.

[1696] You know, like a meme would be there's a photo of you.

[1697] Or like, here's a perfect example.

[1698] You know, George Osuclos from ancient aliens.

[1699] There's a photo of him.

[1700] It says, I'm not saying it was aliens, but it was aliens.

[1701] Right.

[1702] It's like, it's always one of those type things.

[1703] There's only one answer, aliens.

[1704] And it would be the same photo, but like with different, you know, text.

[1705] But there's awesome ones of you where it's like, that's a tree.

[1706] this seems squatchy see if you can find them Brian they're in the Rogan board thread for this I was throwing squawchy pull one up if you can I mean I would say squatchy lot but I started saying it even more when I found out it was a drinking game on college campuses kids watch our show and every time we say squatch or squashy they drink you're gonna kill somebody I'd say it like four times to this sentence like you can tell this place is squashy you look around a squash could cave through here and squatched over there and like just to try to give them alcohol poisoning There was a drinking game for the UFC If someone got rocked I said he's rocked And people would drink There's a bunch of other things too So if you're playing along at home Oh I'm looking at this photo This monkey this fake Thing it looks fake as fuck dude Oh you know my My cousin Donnie says He knows he's the little Italian guy with a thick Boston accent That worked with a Subaru dealer in Santa Monica Do you remember him?

[1707] A Subaru dealer in Santa Monica Did I look at a car there or something?

[1708] Yeah he sold or never sold me a Subaru I don't know he said he knew or maybe it was from the playboy you ever go to the Playboy mansion once I hosted the marijuana policy project thing there so I was there once there was a marijuana policy project had a thing at the mansion it was it's like they rented out you know so it's like everybody's like wow oh right and they're like they hire like a couple chicks to go around but like strippers that don't even playmates right it's a fucking yeah it's a sausage factory it's all dude it's like right right Where's the girls?

[1709] I know he's been up there.

[1710] Funny the memes of him?

[1711] Check this out.

[1712] This is how they portrayed.

[1713] Big foot field researchers are going to see.

[1714] Would you stop scaring, everyone, with your dumbass myth.

[1715] People thought Atlantis was a myth, Cal. But I was just there.

[1716] I've explored the depths of Atlantis, and now I'm about to prove a new species exists.

[1717] I'm a little James Cameron.

[1718] These people aren't going to prove anything.

[1719] To believe any of this, you either have to be a liar or stupid.

[1720] These are professional people who go around track.

[1721] Sasquatches, Kyle.

[1722] They aren't liars and they aren't stupid.

[1723] Look at its trajectory.

[1724] It heads directly to the right.

[1725] It can't be human.

[1726] It's too low to the ground.

[1727] What do you think, Bobo?

[1728] Bobo thinks scary.

[1729] I'm thinking a Sasquatch.

[1730] It's not big enough to be a squatch.

[1731] So it's a baby squat?

[1732] That's what I'm thinking.

[1733] I've already done my research, boys.

[1734] What you're looking at there is a jupacabra.

[1735] Jupac?

[1736] It's like a Sasquatch, only more elusive, more ferocious, and a little more greedy.

[1737] Oh, jupacaba, that's how scary That's you Makes total sense If we rule out a human And a baby Sasquatch Jupacra's all we really have left Well, I guess that's it You're gonna have to allow only me Into the Easter egg hunt, sir I'm the only one qualified That must be That must be awesome to have that I mean that to me as a South Park fan I would faint Yeah man they fucking parodied your show That's a huge It's not really you though It's just a character The real you has represent the Bigfoot community quite well today.

[1738] Yeah, right.

[1739] Thanks very much for the Gone Squatching hat.

[1740] This is pretty fucking dope.

[1741] If they did me, I would be a gay cat.

[1742] That's what you'd be.

[1743] Probably, right?

[1744] That's a stage love even.

[1745] You didn't get to the good part, though, because I got Cartman high.

[1746] You got Cartman high?

[1747] I turned Cartman into a Jew.

[1748] Really?

[1749] Yeah.

[1750] I'll check out the rest of it.

[1751] Yeah, it goes on South Park Studios.

[1752] They have all the episodes, and the episode is called Jubercarra or whatever.

[1753] Juibokabra?

[1754] Do you pack?

[1755] I'll just spell it out J -E -W -P -A -C -A -C -A -C -A -B -R -A it's season 16 Jupacabra Yeah, like a Chupacabra but a Jew That's what I was figuring it was Fucking God bless South Park They're the best man No one's consistently put out funny shit Oh dude But why they heckle Fuck they hammered me He's like Well dude look at your You're fucking on a Bigfoot show I mean You're kidding me But all of them They all looked retarded Look that's what South Park does They went after you a little harder but come on man I don't should be an honor and all that it's an honor and you're on a bigfoot show man look and that should you highly respected not made fun up when big foot when you get something solid man then the tide will change you're gonna come in they're gonna have a fucking float for you in downtown L .A there'll be a big parade you're right we found a real Bigfoot and you and money maker and and they could put all this stuff back in of Renee saying I think it's Squatch because then well now we know a squatches.

[1756] She doesn't always that.

[1757] She did that when we were in Oregon.

[1758] They should have left that shit in.

[1759] Authenticity.

[1760] Yeah, she says, she still says, she goes, I don't know what it was.

[1761] We got to get her on the podcast, too.

[1762] I got to find out what makes her tick.

[1763] Is that bad?

[1764] Dude, I think you guys have a good time.

[1765] What's wrong?

[1766] Nothing.

[1767] Sounds like she's poison.

[1768] You're going to get some, Joe.

[1769] No, you're not.

[1770] She's one of those.

[1771] I see what you're saying.

[1772] I would have a good time if I was a woman.

[1773] She's a scissors.

[1774] It's up.

[1775] Good.

[1776] She would have a good time with me. Mr. Garrison would have a shot.

[1777] Well, even if she wasn't gay, hanging out with you guys in the woods, chasing Bigfoot would turn you gay.

[1778] They'll be the first thing to go lesbian.

[1779] I got to explain to the tooth, this fucking tweaker.

[1780] Loss a tooth?

[1781] This tweaker lady came run out to me with like four little rug rats, like all lice -infested kids.

[1782] It was like, I think it was the first of the month or something, you know, they just got their checks.

[1783] Right.

[1784] She was at like the canned food store, you know, a dened can store, like cheap stuff, whatever I was walking by.

[1785] Oh, we're big fans.

[1786] are big fans and she hand me this like just this look like the Simpsons Evil baby like Unibra and all that.

[1787] Uh -huh.

[1788] Like frowning and she hands me this like kid like two or three years old.

[1789] She's all, take a picture of your kids and like I'm like hey and I'm like hey and I'm like, hey buddy, smile up with the camera and he just looked at me and looked at me and smiled and he just looks at me and knocked my tooth out.

[1790] A baby headbutted you and knocked a toothless.

[1791] Oh like a toddler.

[1792] Whoa.

[1793] Dude.

[1794] I find that harder to believe than Bigfoot.

[1795] Well it was already, it was a I got hit in the face with a surfboard there.

[1796] Oh, it was already loose?

[1797] Well, it had been capped.

[1798] I went to Tijuana, dude.

[1799] I got this deal.

[1800] You got a cap, Captain Tijuana?

[1801] I got a bunch of dental working Tijuana.

[1802] Really?

[1803] Dude, my dentist was off the hook.

[1804] He's like this crazy old.

[1805] He wasn't crazy.

[1806] He's kind of like the world's most interesting man, but he looked like a short, fat Mexican, Roy Orbison.

[1807] Like the thick black Mexican Roy Orbison.

[1808] Like the thick glasses.

[1809] He's funny.

[1810] He just had a liver transplant like six months earlier.

[1811] and I was his first.

[1812] Oh, dude.

[1813] Do you want to do you got a minute?

[1814] Yeah.

[1815] So I'm going down, I was going on like this like legitimate clinic down in T .J. that people go to, the one next to the police station.

[1816] And, uh, because, like, they wanted like 20 grand.

[1817] I'd been hitting the face with crab blocks and surfboards and pool cue, stuff like that.

[1818] And so I'd always crack teeth and stuff so I was going to get them all fixed.

[1819] They want like 23 grand in the States.

[1820] So I'm going down there, I stop and see my buddies.

[1821] He's Mexican dude.

[1822] He's all, oh, my fiance's uncle is a dentist's.

[1823] down there he's got like yeah it's a cheaper clinic you know it's just like like there's like there's like there like the first day you know he hadn't been practicing because he's got a liver transplant he used to be a partier and uh we go down there and like we're doing all this work and after the second day i'm in the chair for like eight hours he's like we got to look at pretty girl he's a total horn dog he's like almost 70s his little short chubby he's like hitting on every girl he's pretty he's cool he's funny he's interesting and whatever and he's hitting on all these chicks he's like so he takes this giant strip bar called like the hong kong cafe or something you never heard of that no it's like three stories it's like one of those uh it's like grind house or something you think when you want it's like full narco place like you know full indiana one yeah it's three stories it's got like big hot tubs now are you wearing a gone squatching hat while you're wandering around this place i don't know what i was wearing but i'm just probably dressed like i am now i want to picture you in a gone squatching hat if i don't if you don't mind all right And the dude, he disappears.

[1824] Like, I didn't know, like, I thought, I mean, apparently every girl in there was like a hooker, and you can just get a girl and whatever.

[1825] Well, he splits and we're waiting.

[1826] And we had a plan of, anyone got to separate for a reason we were going to meet at the truck back at 9 o 'clock or whatever it was.

[1827] 8 .30.

[1828] You know, we'd meet at the truck.

[1829] It was just a couple blocks away.

[1830] Well, you know, it's 8 .30.

[1831] We don't see the guy anywhere at the place.

[1832] We leave.

[1833] We go back to the truck.

[1834] He's not there.

[1835] Then we wait for, like, two hours.

[1836] My buddy's, like, in going to school to be in.

[1837] nurse so he had to get back head class like seven words oh dude i can't wait for the guy all night fuck i don't know where he is you know he's he's mexican he speaks spanish you know he's probably all right but he just had a liver transplant six months earlier and he got a couple margaritas so like we weren't chis christ and so we go back to the state because we were just going to cross the border every day and he never comes home and the family thinks i kidnapped him that i'm part of a kidnapping because they looked at me and thought like sketchy and so i'm getting accused of kidnapping this old man so he never came home no so we're like you know like I was starting to get nervous you know they're like it was what'd you do with them like accusing me like you know over the phone oh wow and um I was like I was saying well I just got and I was covering for the guy you know going like well I don't want to say the guy split with a hooker you know right you know his wife's all upset I'm just like I don't know where you know we were in a Mexican restaurant I wanted some bro I was drinking I had all those you know pain pills that day I was getting whatever like the shots and stuff I said I was kind of groggy and you know I just was walking for some bro then I came I didn't even know what what restaurant was I walked for like four or five blocks got lost so I totally covered for the guy and the next day he shows up and he's like and the family's like where were you know I don't know what story he told him but you know he just said that I left him in a restaurant luckily he said something like that too that was close enough so he was so stoked and at this point he's not a very he's a cool guy to go party with but he's not a very good dentist and at this point he's not a very good dentist no well he's all right he wasn't terrible but um so he uh he goes He goes, Bobo, I thank you so much to, I'll give you half off the rest of your dental work because I'm not going to get any more dental work from this country.

[1838] I'm like, half off, fuck yeah.

[1839] So you said, well, fuck it as long as it's cheap.

[1840] Yeah.

[1841] Oh, shit.

[1842] What does that noise, bro?

[1843] My computer's going crazy.

[1844] What do you mean it's going crazy?

[1845] Shitty music of that.

[1846] Yeah, what is that music?

[1847] That's the universe telling us to wrap this podcast up.

[1848] Uh -huh.

[1849] Let's just wrap this podcast.

[1850] up.

[1851] Mexican dude sounds badass.

[1852] What the fuck are you playing?

[1853] Is that like fake rage against the machine?

[1854] Turn the volume down, bro.

[1855] Thank you very much.

[1856] My whole life I've been fascinated by Bigfoot.