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[27] And so I was telling him, like, I down three armadillos before 8 .30, buddy.
[28] You can't sizzle my spring rolls.
[29] Three?
[30] Yeah.
[31] Oh, we're on live.
[32] Hey, guys, what's going on?
[33] Football energy.
[34] Football energy.
[35] Energy.
[36] You're back.
[37] A good round of football in the shipping container.
[38] Yay.
[39] I said I want a little bit more football energy in the shipping container.
[40] I walked in and they're reacting to game tape.
[41] And then I realized it was some college football game that Taylor and Mike played last week.
[42] Look, man. There's something going on because I typically don't care about people's video game exploits.
[43] And I've been obsessed, obsessed with you guys' college football.
[44] ball league on on uh which one several there's several the one that gave us the game of the century last week that one yeah i got a i got a huge game coming up oh i got to hit that guy back i got Notre Dame versus USC important you hit him back so you can play so we can yeah especially since i'm going i'm going to gainsville over the weekend oh yeah what's going on there the biggest the game of the century game for everything the game for for everything over there yeah blueprint game already it's kind of it's kind of weird because i'm in like a bunch of these and And there's one that means more to me, and, like, it's kind of a curious experience for me because everyone that is in that league treats it like it's a main thing.
[45] And for me, it's just a sidepiece.
[46] Like, I don't really care.
[47] I'm just, like, messing around trying new stuff with it.
[48] I'm going to look in the mirror here.
[49] This is my fault.
[50] We had great football energy, and I brought us back to video games.
[51] You did.
[52] You did.
[53] And I want to apologize to everyone for that, and that's on me. Let's go back to Gainesville, though.
[54] Or let's go to Gainesville, because that's where you're going on Saturday.
[55] I'm going tomorrow.
[56] driving up can i ask you a serious question i'm not i'm not trying to be funny here aren't expectations slowly killing you michael now i'm not talking about this game i'm talking about in life expectations yeah and i think i don't know if people have noticed it i've certainly noticed it in myself my approach to these things is way different it's almost like the more i get invested the more rational and pragmatic about these things i i try to get my expectations are i'm nervous This is a huge game for me personally, for my finances for this program, for the things that I care about deeply.
[57] And I don't buy all the nonsense that I understand why Miami's favored, but I don't buy all the nonsense that they're going to blow them out.
[58] I think there's going to be a tough one.
[59] I really do.
[60] And I'm nervous about it.
[61] And I do try to manage my expectations because over the last 20 years, say for a couple of outliers, this Miami program has never missed an opportunity to miss all the opportunities.
[62] So that is so true, Mike, but I will give you a little teaser for what's coming up later today on our first episode of Gen CFB of the college football season with Lucy.
[63] I picked Miami to win.
[64] Really?
[65] I did.
[66] Wow.
[67] I'm buying the hype.
[68] Spoiler.
[69] I want to talk to you a little bit about, like, because I listen, I sample everything that Metal Arc has to offer now once I found out that everyone's talking about me. And Lucy, I haven't come down on her on this stuff.
[70] No one did it you down in the episode.
[71] I'm just going to say that flatly right.
[72] It's all Taylor do one.
[73] Lucy thinks she can get away.
[74] Lucy is like a bona fide Miami hater.
[75] She hates Miami up and down.
[76] Hasn't actually ever said a positive thing about Miami.
[77] I know what God bless football does.
[78] Only Lucy does that.
[79] No, God bless football.
[80] No, he's going through the whole gamut.
[81] God bless football.
[82] Every time Miami loses, they have the opposing head coach who's victorious and to do a coincidence.
[83] Yeah, to just wave his hands as a parade procession walks by.
[84] Like, like, I understand what GBF is aspiring to, but I don't know how like, One of the founding principles of this podcast is just troll Mike.
[85] It seems a little flimsy.
[86] Lucy's the only woman at this entire network that hates Miami.
[87] So that's all on her.
[88] What I'm saying is, Jess, I find like, you!
[89] I hate that clip.
[90] So we kind of have, I like to think, correct me if I'm wrong.
[91] When it comes to our programs, I think we both understand where we're coming from and that we're totally in the tank.
[92] and it's almost like we've just totally foregone hating each other on this premise alone.
[93] Like, I know you're an Irish fan.
[94] I'm a Keynes fan.
[95] There's nothing that anyone can do to convince the other person.
[96] So I like to think that there's some mutual respect there.
[97] You know what?
[98] There's respect in knowing that there's nothing you can say and there's nothing I can say that will change the other person.
[99] So we don't even try.
[100] We don't even try.
[101] We don't even try.
[102] It's not fake at all.
[103] I respect that.
[104] I nod in a glance.
[105] and then you keep it moving.
[106] That's why I F with you on a very deep and profound level, Jess.
[107] Yeah.
[108] But I'm kind of encouraged to hear that you have good things to say about Miami, but this is all rat poison.
[109] We need some reverse rat poison because my nerves are going on.
[110] Maybe that's my plan all along.
[111] I kind of feel like that's what's going on over here.
[112] That it's a big switcheroo that's coming down the pike.
[113] Yeah, and I kind of touched on this in the show earlier this week, but I'm like the pro -Paul Finebaum aspect, which I think is just utter BS.
[114] like Paul Feinbaum literally, literally said, it is now time for Miami to come back to the national conversation.
[115] Oh, thank you, gatekeeper.
[116] Yeah.
[117] I appreciate it.
[118] Now, now, now we're cool.
[119] You have permission now.
[120] Now we're cool.
[121] And don't think for a second I'm not on to you, which is you hate FSU.
[122] You want us back so you can hate FSU more.
[123] If I may, like, we do share a mutual sort of like the enemy of my enemy is my friend situation because the whole time you've been talking, Jeremy is now telling me all the scenarios for this weekend that help out UCF.
[124] And I think we can all confidently just say, Jeremy, shut up.
[125] What do you mean?
[126] I'm just wearing my 2017 national champion shirt on the show today because we debut against New Hampshire.
[127] If Florida beats Miami and then UCF beats Florida, that's better for UCF.
[128] I'm like, I mean, it certainly would be good.
[129] Look, that would be a good thing.
[130] But I have no rooting interest in this weekend.
[131] I just hope both teams have fun.
[132] You have an inside track to stay champ if you absorb See, that's what I'm talking about.
[133] Transitive property.
[134] And you know, we at UCF do love the transitive property.
[135] It's almost a program built on transit property.
[136] It is, literally.
[137] No one's, no one there is from there.
[138] Jeremy and I had a nice, calm, rational, sans hate conversation about Central Florida.
[139] I think that Central Florida...
[140] Don't call us Central Florida.
[141] UCF.
[142] Just UCF?
[143] Okay.
[144] I'm sorry.
[145] They've rebranded, Mike.
[146] I'm sorry.
[147] Not the Golden Knights, not Central Florida.
[148] The UCF Knights.
[149] Sincerely meant...
[150] Not the Florida Institute of Technology, right?
[151] Are they not the University of Central Florida?
[152] Yeah, but when it was like C .F. FLA or Central Florida on the bottom line, it always used to piss everybody off.
[153] So UCF, that's the branding.
[154] Any consideration to Orlando State?
[155] No. Oh, man. Although I do kind of like it.
[156] I kind of like that.
[157] I don't hate it.
[158] Orlando State.
[159] OSU.
[160] It happens.
[161] OSU.
[162] There's a San Diego State.
[163] There's a Bresso State.
[164] There's too many OSUs already.
[165] You do it as like in Disney.
[166] You do it like Mickey Voice.
[167] Oh.
[168] Yes.
[169] But then you could use an orange as your O. Yeah, as the O, yeah.
[170] I don't hate it.
[171] Or the Etcote ball.
[172] Oh, yeah.
[173] Or the Citronaut head.
[174] The NIL money from Disney.
[175] Oh.
[176] Someone do Kermit.
[177] I don't know why.
[178] Just someone do it.
[179] I think Roy's got a, like, a 6 out of 10, Kermit.
[180] Really?
[181] Yeah, you've gotten out of a suey nominee.
[182] Chris doesn't think so.
[183] He made fun of my committee.
[184] I mean, you were a suey nominee.
[185] I thought enough of it to put it in the nominee.
[186] It's an honor just to be nominated, Roy.
[187] It is.
[188] If I'm being real that day, three of us did Kermit, Tony's didn't make it.
[189] Wow.
[190] That's fine.
[191] I don't care.
[192] You know what?
[193] My problem is Zagaki didn't make it either, and I was a little hurt by that.
[194] The chorus of Zagakis, I thought I was going to hear yours, and I didn't hear it.
[195] Mine is so good.
[196] I don't need to be in the suey.
[197] Tony's is good.
[198] The suey's, if you don't know, the sues have been going on all week long.
[199] Today, we've got best musical performance, and that one is usually probably the most, contentious, right?
[200] Because people really get in their feelings about this one.
[201] Our songmakers, which is basically just Yeti Blanc and Andrew Streeter.
[202] And then there's a few other guys in there, but yeah, they want that to win.
[203] I'm team Taylor.
[204] Taylor.
[205] Taylor is going to win.
[206] Taylor.
[207] We worked really hard on that PEPA's.
[208] Was PEPA's nominated?
[209] The sad PEPA's.
[210] That was this past year?
[211] Damian Lillard.
[212] It was about a year ago.
[213] We can get to that whenever, by the way.
[214] Is any of the because Miami songs in there?
[215] I think we purposely kept them out.
[216] Yeah.
[217] We had so many nominations without them, and it's just like it's already too crowded.
[218] Yeah, okay.
[219] Dude, I'm telling you, I got a, we got to audit the whole suey nomination system because there are some things I'm told, oh yeah, that was before the cutoff last year.
[220] And then you tell me Taylor's song is in there.
[221] Which Taylor song are we talking about?
[222] The Sad Peppers.
[223] They're all good.
[224] Sad Peppos was after the heat got eliminated from this point.
[225] No, that was the Damien Loos.
[226] Taylor had nothing to do with Sad Peppas because musically, that was a, at a certain level.
[227] Taylor aspires to a level much lower, which is the charm in it.
[228] I think even he would concede.
[229] Bad is good when it comes to Taylor.
[230] And in some instances, with like the Mariner's song, for example, sometimes really bad can be really good.
[231] Oh, God, now there's controversy happening because now everyone's nervous that sad pepuses before the deadline.
[232] Blazers trade Damia Lillard to Bucks in Blockbuster Trade October 12th, 2023.
[233] Okay, we're good.
[234] The last thing we need in this category is more controversy, because as we know, people do stuff the ballot.
[235] There is some sort of concerted bot cheating thing going on.
[236] We have actually, we fixed this because we have done the opposite.
[237] You know, last year you could vote a million times.
[238] Now you have to like fill out a form just to vote once.
[239] And you know what?
[240] That's how it should be.
[241] One of the biggest things I've hated over the last few years, or maybe it's not 10 years almost, when NBA .com was like, yeah, just, you know, it used to be you have to fill out a form on NBA .com to vote for your all -stars.
[242] Now it's just like, hey, just tweet the guy's name.
[243] I'm like, what?
[244] That doesn't make any sense.
[245] So that's how we got Zaza -Pachulia almost being an all -star and stuff.
[246] I'm with voter reform.
[247] Thank you, I mean.
[248] IDs too.
[249] Now, that limited fake made it.
[250] With courage.
[251] Out of curiosity, because I express my displeasure, when people go vote for best dismissal, does it say Mike Ryan dismisses Mario Cristobal?
[252] I believe it does.
[253] That's really unfair to me. And also, I was getting, I did five hours on Kane's Insight.
[254] We did a great marathon to hype people up.
[255] I had five straight hours with no commercial breaks.
[256] And I kind of felt pretty good about my chances on getting Mario Cristobal on that show at the beginning of the week.
[257] And then something happened.
[258] And then my communication kind of went, no, no, no, no, don't come on.
[259] Don't come on me. This is what I was saying.
[260] I will not.
[261] You do things.
[262] Whoa.
[263] You do things without noticing.
[264] You do things without noticing how they'd impact it Just because you'd like to get your little laughs on the side Like, oh, this will annoy Mike I'm not here to help your side projects Oh, yeah No, it's that side projects, it's like, I deal with this person On a routine basis Yeah Let it help Mike, have you ever had to have a conversation with them Like, you know, it's just a dumb show that I do Don't listen to them Often and their reaction is usually what?
[265] I mean Let it out.
[266] Yeah, that's a reaction.
[267] You know what, I'm not doing myself any favors, because I think I've actually worked a lot on myself and my tone has been good.
[268] I'm slowing down when I speak about the University of Miami.
[269] I get emotional there when people kind of trying to josh me a little bit.
[270] I don't like that.
[271] I don't like getting joshed.
[272] You don't like in the chicken when the back of the ribs here when you're going up for a rebound.
[273] You know, man. But Mike, you know this, like when you say that, it just encourages the trolls more.
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[296] Stugats.
[297] Oh, my God.
[298] What a weird interaction.
[299] What?
[300] Wow.
[301] This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats.
[302] That clip.
[303] That clip in particular was, I was calm, level -headed, conceding every single criticism for three and a half hours.
[304] And Dan's like, give me more.
[305] Well, not every single criticism, because I believe that was the day that inexplicably, Lucy and I were both left off the Monday schedule after that game for reasons that still have not been explained to me. I had no influence over the schedule, but I would be lying if I said it, I wasn't happy about it.
[306] I mean, I loved it.
[307] I was dreading it.
[308] That talent email, that talent schedule, I was hovering over my email.
[309] I'm like, please, your God, no Lucy, no Jess.
[310] And I said jenga after it came in.
[311] Yatsy.
[312] I don't know.
[313] It's crazy.
[314] It's election season, and we're all getting a crazy ton of scam likely calls.
[315] If you would have told 14 -year -old me that I would just send a call that said caller ID scam likely straight to voicemail, my 14 -year -old self would be like, what are you doing?
[316] If you told 14 -year -old me that, I would be like, what's caller ID?
[317] That's true, too.
[318] Remember prank calls?
[319] Oh, my God.
[320] Turkey boys.
[321] The Simpsons would Bart calling Moe, Moe, Mo, Tavern, like, that's a bit that can't live anymore.
[322] You guys talk about stuff that doesn't age well and usually stuff that's canceled or whatever.
[323] Like, no, that's the stuff that doesn't age well.
[324] I can't show my kids how Bart will call because why doesn't Mo just know that it's coming from the Simpsons house?
[325] I bet we could prank call my dad right now.
[326] Could we?
[327] Can you not do a number that nobody?
[328] If it was a number that nobody...
[329] If it was a number that he didn't know, I don't know if that would like we could get him.
[330] Star 67 does work.
[331] Like in terms of blocking it?
[332] I don't think it works for someone that's Star 67.
[333] We used to do Star 69 and it would not show, at least here.
[334] It would not show the caller ID.
[335] No, that Star 67.
[336] I thought Star 69 is called back when you don't know who called you.
[337] Yeah, which is.
[338] Star 69, it calls back the last number they're called to.
[339] Well, which is what you would do to counter the prank calls that you would receive when I was in high school.
[340] I mean, it was a glory day.
[341] He's a prank calling.
[342] The glory days.
[343] Everyone would try to Star 69, but people would start 67 on the front end and you can't actually get back.
[344] The person who came up with Star 69, were they just a deviant?
[345] Like, they could have chosen a lot of numbers.
[346] Mike, I need you to wax poetic.
[347] I need you to take us back to you in high school.
[348] The little music is playing in the back.
[349] Dung, dang dang dang dang dang.
[350] And, like, it was a great summer.
[351] We used to prank called, you know.
[352] I got pranked a lot in high school.
[353] This was becoming a surprise.
[354] By whom?
[355] Like, high school, because my dad was out of town a lot, a lot, like half the year.
[356] I was by myself in my own home.
[357] Did you answer the phone?
[358] Ruiz residence?
[359] No, I wouldn't do that.
[360] We had caller ID back then.
[361] But, no, I was, you know, people knew that I was alone at home.
[362] So they would either prank call or people would, like, do stuff to my house.
[363] Like, it was not, High school wasn't very fun for me. That would be a good movie series.
[364] Good movie, yeah.
[365] Yeah, if you did alone at home and people doing things to your house.
[366] Do you guys remember how, like, embarrassing it would be if you wanted to talk to your crush and you'd have to, like, call their house?
[367] Oh.
[368] And then the parents would answer, and you'd be like, um, is Joe home?
[369] Uh, that was actually my crush's name.
[370] May I speak to Joe, please?
[371] Yeah, and they'd be like, Who's calling?
[372] Okay, this is, you're 10.
[373] I remember beeping crushes.
[374] I remember, uh, the way that a euphanism for?
[375] No, you would beep them like...
[376] But what is the beep?
[377] 143.
[378] 143.
[379] 143.
[380] 5885.
[381] I would just do 8885.
[382] Yeah, no wait.
[383] What is it?
[384] No, 8005.
[385] Sorry, I can't spell what numbers.
[386] And then you sit on the bed with the landline and the cord and you twist it around and your little feet would be in the air.
[387] You'd be like, ooh.
[388] On your stomach?
[389] kicking your legs back behind you.
[390] The first conversation I ever had with my now wife was I thought she was cute.
[391] and I wanted to talk to her.
[392] Is Cynthia home?
[393] No, I hit her up via AIM.
[394] Oh, yeah.
[395] I shot my shot via AIME.
[396] But her away messages was on, showering, BRB.
[397] No, she had to accept the request.
[398] And I asked, like, what's the homework tonight?
[399] What's the homework?
[400] The other, boys.
[401] There was no Wednesday night homework.
[402] You know that.
[403] I went to a Christian school.
[404] There was no homework.
[405] We're married now.
[406] I have a child.
[407] I met someone in Key West who went to high school with you and your wife.
[408] Oh, yeah?
[409] Who?
[410] I don't remember.
[411] I don't think they told us their names.
[412] Okay.
[413] That's nice.
[414] So does it drive by like, hey, I went to school with Mike and Cynthia?
[415] No, it was like, hey, Smetty.
[416] Hey, Willow.
[417] And I was like, hey.
[418] Willow?
[419] Yeah, they knew Willow.
[420] Oh, oh, because I was like, I had a teacher named Willow and he got totally red -billed.
[421] He was like one of the cool guys.
[422] I don't know what happened.
[423] Well, I kind of know what happened.
[424] Facebook happened.
[425] Yeah, and then we chit -chatted for a while.
[426] And then we went back in our cell.
[427] Is there a possibility that he gave you his name and you don't remember it?
[428] Yeah.
[429] I think there's a sincere possibility that that's exactly what happened.
[430] happen there.
[431] There are so many beeper codes.
[432] Yeah.
[433] Like you can have full conversations.
[434] 911 was the big one.
[435] Yeah, call me right.
[436] Like 0563.
[437] Dude, do you guys don't leave me. It was up until recently doctors were still using that system.
[438] I think my father -in -law still has a beeper.
[439] Dude, I'm telling you, like, I did not get to experience it because, like, that was, in my day, if you had a pager, or if you ask your parents for a pager, they would say, the only people who need pagers are doctors and drug dealers.
[440] Which one are you?
[441] And I'm like, oh, that's the doctor.
[442] Sometimes they're the same thing.
[443] Remember two -way pagers?
[444] Like, oh, my gosh.
[445] Now I can aim on the go.
[446] Well, that was, that was what led to the sidekick, right?
[447] Eventually, the evolution of the two -way pager was like, what if I could also make phone calls with this?
[448] And then, voila, sidekick.
[449] And I had, you had instant mess, AOL instant messenger, you had MSN on it.
[450] You had all the different messaging apps, and you could also text with a cordy keyboard.
[451] Jeremy has a very important update for us, by the way.
[452] I did the research.
[453] I went back and looked at all of our talent schedules, and Jess and or Lucy had been on the schedule every single Monday since the first week of July until the University of Miami lost to Georgia Tech.
[454] I was very fortunate that day.
[455] It was the first Monday where neither of them was on the schedule for three months.
[456] Luck of the draw.
[457] Luck swung in your favor after it swung out of your favor.
[458] Mike, you are perhaps our most.
[459] degenerate gambler on the team, right?
[460] Is there someone here who's bigger than you?
[461] Allegedly.
[462] I want to say yeah, let's be careful.
[463] I'm not calling to degenerate.
[464] I'm a responsible gambler.
[465] Taylor's unit is oddly high.
[466] Yeah, Taylor, I like to gamble.
[467] I like to place bets.
[468] I like having action.
[469] Yeah, I'm not a junkie by any means.
[470] No, no. The gambles that I make are more professional in nature, but yeah, yes, I will concede that out of this unit, most certainly, I'm the biggest gambler.
[471] Well, because I've been hearing talk about your biggest NFL future bet to date.
[472] Yes.
[473] Now, this was also slightly spoiled that came to my attention.
[474] But I've never been a futures guy primarily because I don't bet that way and I kind of want the money.
[475] I don't want to stash money away waiting for something all season to come in.
[476] But this is the first time that I'm kind of changing my approach because I saw some value on the board.
[477] And so I placed a pretty heavy pop, multiple unit prop bet.
[478] on one specific rookie player to hit the over, over under on his receiving yard total.
[479] It's the biggest future bet I've ever made.
[480] Are you going to give us the name or is this hidden on purpose?
[481] I'm glad you asked.
[482] I was just doing radio.
[483] Marvin Harrison Jr. Oh, yeah.
[484] Marvin Harrison Jr. is over under set to 1 ,000 yards.
[485] If you find it at Drag King's Sportsbook, 1 ,000 .5, I smash that over.
[486] He's a tremendous player.
[487] I think he's going to just stroll into that lineup, be their number one wide receiver.
[488] He has a quarterback that's going to throw it.
[489] And plus, there are more games this year.
[490] A thousand yards isn't what it used to be.
[491] I think he easily cruises past this number.
[492] And if he doesn't, it would be like one of the biggest shocks of my life, because I rate him highly.
[493] The thing about it is, I just wonder, like, you're kind of, it's more about Kyler Murray than it is about Marvin Harris.
[494] No, no, no, no. No, I understand this Arizona team is going to be down a lot.
[495] they're going to be chucking it.
[496] That is a part of it.
[497] But this, for me, and Tony, I don't know if you feel the same way, this is entirely about Marvin Harrison Jr. I think he's a spectacular talent.
[498] He's one of the best wide receiver prospects that we've seen since Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase.
[499] He's incredible.
[500] Megatron, like his numbers and his, what his projections should be are incredible.
[501] The thing is, have you seen any of the action move on that line?
[502] Have you gone back and been like, oh, wait a second, it's kind of trickling up or down?
[503] I couldn't hear you because Jeremy was whispering in my ear something about UCF, so I apologize.
[504] That's not...
[505] Have you seen the line move?
[506] No, I haven't seen the line move, because I kind of said it and forget it.
[507] So I haven't seen the line move.
[508] I imagine this show has such influence that we will move this line.
[509] In fact, I feel like by speaking over the air right now, we are moving this line.
[510] It's minus 125 to beat Betty over in that.
[511] Look at that.
[512] It was minus 110.
[513] We already moved the line.
[514] You can hear the people rushing.
[515] to their apps right now nationwide watching us on the YouTube because they want to lock in this future.
[516] I also have a pretty good college football future that I feel good about, which is juicier because that minus 125, you're laying some Vig for a couple of months.
[517] You don't necessarily like that.
[518] You want some big juicy futures.
[519] And I think in college football, we're at a really interesting point.
[520] So Sharps, professional gamblers, guys that are really good at this.
[521] I've always heard that they research on college basketball like crazy, and they just pounce on the early season lines in college basketball, and over a two -week span, these guys essentially make their years, because it's a difficult sport to handicap.
[522] There's so much roster turnover, there's a lot of variables.
[523] No one really knows what a team is going to be.
[524] So if people really do their research, talk to the right folks, you can game the system.
[525] College football historically hasn't been that way.
[526] we see lines like this week Miami's favored by two and a half on the road according to draft king's sports book at Gainesville this is a heavy public line there the public is pumping up a road favorite that is not in the SEC a road favorite that for 15 years has lost almost every big game it's ever been outside of one beautiful night at Hard Rock Stadium against Jess's Irish so we always fail by principle I'm always like let me take that home dog that home SEC dog, Florida, are you kidding me?
[527] In that atmosphere, week one, a really heavy public road fave.
[528] But we're at a really interesting point and there's so much roster turnover now in college football that it's really difficult to handicap these week one lines.
[529] So for me, I'm just totally staying away because I've got enough action on this game already.
[530] I'm not betting on it because I'm by principle, I'm scared of the situation.
[531] Traditionally, I'm always on Florida in this spot.
[532] But you got to say that maybe the odds makers, they don't exactly know how to gauge week one lines.
[533] I love a good week one surprise, right?
[534] Like, for instance, oh, I don't know, making Georgia Tech 10 and a half point dogs.
[535] You know, who knows?
[536] I pounce all over that, and the line moved.
[537] Boston College opened as a plus 19 .5 point dog.
[538] I got them at 17 .5.
[539] They're now down to 15 .5.
[540] It may tumble even more.
[541] I like Boston College there.
[542] There's too many points.
[543] Another teaser for Gen CFB later, Florida State has the rare week one must -win game.
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[562] If Daniel Day Lewis did it, you'd be jerking off all over yourself.
[563] Oh, come on.
[564] Yeah, I would be.
[565] Aggressive description?
[566] I mean, what is it?
[567] What is that?
[568] I'm just saying.
[569] You know what?
[570] That's me. That's me. Daniel Day Lewis does something.
[571] I see that photo of Daniel Day Lewis looking like Lincoln before he's about to start filming Lincoln.
[572] And you know what I do?
[573] I mean, Stugats.
[574] I jerk off all over myself.
[575] That's what I do.
[576] Lincoln, who you outed the other day?
[577] Don't make this a rejoin.
[578] This is the Dan Lebatar show.
[579] So Mike, one of the things that you mentioned in your big futures bet was you're betting on Marvin Harrison Jr., obviously, a storied career at Ohio State.
[580] The bloodlines, you know who his father is.
[581] We shan't say his name.
[582] Try not to.
[583] But there is something, I'm not going to say untoward, but a little off surrounding Marvin Harrison, Jr. And I don't know if you guys know this.
[584] You can't buy his jersey.
[585] Not because it's sold out and it's the hottest ticket on the market or hottest jersey on the market.
[586] It's not being sold.
[587] You can't go to the team website and buy it.
[588] You can't even go to the team website and customize one.
[589] You'll say, okay, I'll make my own number 18 Harrison Jr. Jersey.
[590] You won't be allowed to do it on the website.
[591] And the reason for that is because fanatics that has the merchandising deal with the NFL in terms of selling merch they're currently embroiled in a lawsuit with Harrison Jr. and his father.
[592] That's where they messed up.
[593] That's where they messed up.
[594] So I've been workshopping a fanatics take for years that I've been afraid to share because fanatics is really powerful.
[595] They've gotten in the content game.
[596] They have partnerships everywhere.
[597] But also consumers, there's social media accounts out there, consumers have legitimate issues with this monopoly.
[598] fanatics has over the entire industry.
[599] I, for one, have been a victim of ordering several things from Fanatics, not getting what I ordered or getting it misprinted or having some mistakes.
[600] Like custom stuff?
[601] Not even custom stuff.
[602] Like, when I was Browns fan, I had a Nick Chub jersey where the number 24 was like over here.
[603] What?
[604] Yeah, it happens all the time with Fanatics.
[605] Like I said, there's websites dedicated to it.
[606] And the consumers are kind of holding the bag here, not just because the products have kind of been diminished, but also the creativity on championship merchandise, let's say.
[607] Fanatics is really kind of cookie cutter with some of their designs.
[608] Yes.
[609] And so they've taken over a lot of the uniform printing and people are upset with this.
[610] And I've wanted to share my frustration as Roy and I are big uniform guys.
[611] And I know he probably feels a certain way.
[612] I think both of our worries were a little bit alleviated with their NHL designs.
[613] We were worried about how that would go.
[614] As far as the championship merch or as far as the actual jerseys?
[615] No, the championship merch I think totally missed the mark.
[616] Their championship merch, I didn't buy any of those hats or any of the championship stuff.
[617] It wasn't appealing to me. It was all like, if you ask like early stage AI to design a championship shirt, this is what it would look like.
[618] It did nothing for me. But I think we're at a point right now where you have to be careful because, number one, Pablo Tori, he's joining us.
[619] He should find out about fanatics because a lot of these, a lot of these partnerships that they have with the leagues, they're invested in this company.
[620] There's equity there.
[621] Like, it's all kind of unseemly.
[622] So my endgame here, as I ramble on Spence, is if you actually have an issue with fanatics, if you yourself have been a victim of a misprinted jersey, and you want to root for the demise of fanatics, they put Marvin Harrison Jr.'s father in a lawsuit.
[623] So your time may come, because that is not something that you do if you want to keep on existing as you are.
[624] Certainly, if you want the arrow to continue pointing up, you do not.
[625] not sue Marvin Harrison Jr.'s father.
[626] You do not even say his name, let alone name that name in a lawsuit.
[627] You do not do this.
[628] So if you, like me, have once opened up a package from that company been like, damn it, no, how can they keep getting away with this?
[629] They will soon not be able to.
[630] So if you don't know, basically they did an NIL deal with Harrison Jr. that was supposed to pay him a million bucks and he was supposed to sign 30 game jerseys.
[631] Harrison did sign this contract.
[632] Marvin Harrison, it's irrefutable.
[633] There was a Marvin Harrison signature on the deal.
[634] But not the one that they're suing, the problem is, right?
[635] Because Harrison said, quote, it is not an agreement between fanatics and me. I was never requested to, nor did I ever sign any document that personally obligated me to do anything concerning the binding term sheet.
[636] And so it's what...
[637] So how does a father get dragged into this mean?
[638] Well, the in the affidavit, David?
[639] It says that the father is the one that signed a term sheet and not Harrison Jr. And that's who their big beef is.
[640] But as a result, they basically froze all sale of his jerseys, which is crazy.
[641] Because I live in Arizona, and, like, it was a big deal that they got.
[642] As it should be.
[643] He's probably the most heralded draft pick they've had since Kyler Murray.
[644] And dare I say it, maybe a little bit more than Kyler Murray.
[645] The level of excitement.
[646] All the Harold were talking about it.
[647] Fitzgerald was probably number one.
[648] Yeah, pretty much.
[649] Fitzgerald.
[650] it's hard to say can't miss because especially with the quarterback position like Andrew Luck was Camp Miss and Andrew Luck while he having a good career he didn't exactly live up to those expectations Trevor Lawrence was another guy that's this is a camp miss prospect it's early for Trevor Lawrence but but there's but I mean he retired that was good no one had that in the card at the wide receiver position if you have one of these guys that are universally heralded by all the heralds all the heralds they usually live up they usually Absolutely.
[651] And this guy seems as close to can't miss of a prospect at that position as there can be.
[652] It's like who's created in a lab when you think about it.
[653] I mean, genetically, it kind of was.
[654] It's one of the greatest receivers ever that had a hand in it.
[655] The wide receivers coach for the Cardinals.
[656] But Junior's got so many better physical attributes than his father.
[657] His father, if you watched him play, you know, very thin.
[658] He would catch a ball go out of bounds because of his frame.
[659] Marvin Harrison does not, Marvin Harrison Jr. does not have that frame.
[660] He's faster.
[661] He's better across the board, which is crazy because Marvin Harrison, well, Marvin Harrison Jr.''s father was incredible, an incredible receiver.
[662] Yeah, the wide receivers coach for the Cardinals, Drew Terrell said, obviously he's more advancing that he's almost been groomed to do this since a young age.
[663] Almost as if.
[664] Since the first conversation I ever had with him in pre -draft, he's been a pro.
[665] He knows what the expectation is.
[666] He's very hard on himself.
[667] and knows what to expect of himself, ladies and gentlemen, this is like, this is, this is what front offices.
[668] I won't even say NFL front offices.
[669] This is what front offices beat off to.
[670] This is porn for them, right?
[671] Like when you give me someone who's like, this guy, son of a pro, and carries himself in the most professional way and his elite and talent and work ethic and all that stuff, yeah, I'm going to grab some Vaseline and some Kleenex.
[672] You mentioned that, But, like, if anybody has any concerns about Marvin Harrison Jr., it might actually be the father, right?
[673] Concerns?
[674] In what way?
[675] Because the father.
[676] Because the lawsuit?
[677] Do you remember when Marvin Harrison Jr.'s father was playing in the league?
[678] Because he never spoke.
[679] A mythology built around him and everyone, all the commentators, every Colts game, it was like a drinking game.
[680] Man, that is an absolute pro.
[681] You were your kid to grow up and be Marvin Harrison Jr.'s.
[682] Well, he didn't speak up until their first Super Bowl.
[683] That's when he began speaking.
[684] Well, other people started speaking.
[685] And then you realize, like, oh, this dude is tough.
[686] You don't want to cross this guy.
[687] Like, there's accounts out there on the Internet.
[688] I didn't see any of them.
[689] But I've heard rumblings of a slap at a Pro Bowl and far worse things out there.
[690] So you would, if I were a personnel person in the NFL, that would really be my only question about this prospect entering the league.
[691] like the bloodline, what's going on there?
[692] What can you clear up?
[693] So for out the gates, out the gates for his career, he's got this issue with a huge league partner in fanatics.
[694] And also, his father is now embroiled in this fanatics thing.
[695] It's kind of like, well, we were kind of concerned about your dad being involved.
[696] And you haven't even played a pro game yet.
[697] And your name is in headlines in a lawsuit with your father attached.
[698] that kind of confirms some of this stuff, doesn't it?
[699] I think the issue is, again, it goes back to what you started with, which is Fanatics, this monopoly of, look, if you want to wear this guy's jersey, you got to go through us.
[700] There is no other way to do this.
[701] And it's not like they're, it's a Nike jersey, but Fanatics is saying we control the pipeline.
[702] Dude, that's my main overall issue.
[703] When, like why can't I go to Nike town and buy a Marvin Harrison group?
[704] Because Nike has outsourced the manufacturing of this stuff to Fanatics.
[705] It has a Nike swoosh on it, but that is just for brand appeal.
[706] This is a fanatics product.
[707] And you look at the entire sports landscape.
[708] Everything is like this way.
[709] And that is not a fair marketplace.
[710] Someone should look into it.
[711] Somebody should find out.
[712] Somebody should look into it.
[713] Somebody should find out.
[714] Especially when all these partnerships, they kind of have equity in this.
[715] You can understand why what Fanatics promises to all these leagues is.
[716] is you don't have to worry about any of the costs.
[717] We cover them, and don't worry about the standard.
[718] We got the quality control on lock.
[719] But the quality control, as far as me as a consumer, a lover of uniforms and sports merchandise, I think it's pretty irrefutable over the last few years.
[720] The quality is dipped.
[721] I mean, pretty strongly, it's dipped.
[722] Like, this is not, in terms of the sports timeline, I don't think we've ever had a worst merchandise setup in terms of quality, but also, in terms of convenience, it's never been better.
[723] Fanatics is a great website.
[724] It's super easy to get stuff shipped to your home.
[725] They have great deals.
[726] You apply the promo code.
[727] I've been there.
[728] I have nowhere else to go, though.
[729] They are monopolizing the entire industry.
[730] Marvin Harrison, Jr., to get back at Fanatics, should just wear a blank jersey.
[731] Instead of the jersey that they give him, he creates his own jersey.
[732] He doesn't get his jerseys from a lot.
[733] I don't think he can do that.
[734] I'm saying, by the way, this is the workaround that people have been doing.
[735] They begin number 18 Cardinals jerseys with Harrison Jr. one word.
[736] Like, they took away the space between the N and the J. I'm saying, if you're an Arizona Cardinals fan, you want Marvin Harrison Jersey, just by number 18, Harrison 2.
[737] Harrison the second, right?
[738] Like, it's ways around this, ladies and gentlemen.
[739] Harrison with two ends.
[740] Yeah.
[741] It's not like, because there's...
[742] M .Harrison.
[743] Harrison is a common surname, so it's not like they can tell people who want to buy customized jerseys.
[744] Sorry, your name is not allowed.
[745] This is America, Jack.
[746] Thank you.
[747] If my last name is Harrison, and I want a Cardinals jersey because I'm a Cardinals fan, there's literally dozens of us here in the greater Phoenix area that support dozens of us, Harrisons, that support this team.
[748] There's a lot more than dozens.
[749] Whose favorite number is number 18?
[750] I used to live on Harrison Court.
[751] I want an ode to my old street name, man. Harrison can also be a first name.
[752] Not a great first name, but it can be.
[753] Harrison Barnes, big Cardinals fan.
[754] Harrison Ford.
[755] Harrison Ford, too.
[756] Harrison Smith.
[757] Who's Harrison Smith?
[758] Safety.
[759] Is he a good golfer?
[760] Is he potential sneaky Hall of Famer?
[761] Yeah.
[762] Sneaky Hall of Fame career Harrison Smith is that.
[763] In that, it's, you had to ask who is that.
[764] So it's sneaky in that way.
[765] I like, I like the idea of like they're locking up the Hall of Fame and then you're, like, what was that?
[766] And then Harrison Smith's like, nothing, boss, I've been here.
[767] I don't know.
[768] I'll keep my eye on you.
[769] He's sneaky in the way that you didn't know who he was.
[770] and also if I lined up a bunch of people and said one of these guys is Harrison Smith, I think you'd struggle to figure out if he were even white or black.
[771] Dude, that happened to me yesterday with Robert Craycraft, what's Cray Crabb?
[772] River.
[773] River.
[774] And I was like, Bob.
[775] You fool for going with a conventional first name.
[776] His first name is River.
[777] Could not, yeah, I could not tell you.
[778] But I also feel like once you find out someone's name is River, you remember that their name's River.
[779] No, not really.
[780] That kind of thing.
[781] That one sticks with you.
[782] Walking Phoenix's older brother.
[783] That's how I call it.
[784] I'm going to work on top five rivers in sports.
[785] In the interview, we do, Stugats does top five bodies of water.
[786] Oh, really?
[787] Did anybody do Nile Diggs?
[788] Oh, no, we just did, like, Stugats did, like, canals, ocean.
[789] He didn't do, like, athletes that cano bodies of water?
[790] Nile Dix.
[791] We were ranking.
[792] Well, he didn't have his laptop in front of him where he can Google all this stuff.
[793] Stugats had canals, like, really high.
[794] Really?
[795] I was like, what?
[796] Oh, I love a good canal.
[797] Suez?
[798] Why do you love a good canal?
[799] I haven't thought this bit out, buddy.
[800] I just love a good canal.
[801] and you're supposed to keep it moving.
[802] Don't press me on this.
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