The Big Suey: We're All Pawns

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[16] Why are you listening to this show?

[17] The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Lebitard podcast.

[18] I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that.

[19] In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.

[20] I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there.

[21] That hasn't happened to you guys?

[22] I've done it.

[23] And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar.

[24] I would only consider doing this if the heat know about this ahead of time.

[25] Like, they're not surprised because five people from the Levitard show are walking in.

[26] We have good relationship with them.

[27] Greg, roll the dice.

[28] It says here if the event is more than 25 miles from the Casaya Center, mileage is to be paid by the client at the rate of 56 cents per mile.

[29] Boom.

[30] There you go.

[31] This tryout seems like it's 25 miles.

[32] Should Golden Oldies incur any miscellaneous expense, i .e. parking and or valet charges, it is the client's responsibility to cover such costs.

[33] What about hip replacements?

[34] Trips that require air travel will be arranged on a case -by -case basis, so they might be getting you some flight.

[35] Playoffs.

[36] Who's flying the Golden Oldies anywhere?

[37] I love this.

[38] All right, so it's settled.

[39] Do we have someone ready?

[40] I got a thumbs up from Carl, so that's all I need.

[41] Who's going with me?

[42] to insulate me. We'll figure that out.

[43] I want to know.

[44] Chris, you should have to go.

[45] I'm going to stay here.

[46] We'll figure it out.

[47] Do they just tell them the dance as a dancey drop kind of situation?

[48] Do they have to be routines?

[49] Greg, isn't that a thing from like the olden days?

[50] Like the dance 24 hour dance marathons and like the last couple's standing would win?

[51] Yeah, there used to be that.

[52] Do you ever go to one of those?

[53] There used to be that.

[54] Did you have them dancing until they dropped that?

[55] No, I'm not no. There used to be dance marathons.

[56] Jess is right.

[57] You guys' algorithms are all messed up.

[58] No, I was just saying, like, until you tap out or whatever.

[59] Tap out.

[60] Or do they give you routines?

[61] Is there a routine that you got to do?

[62] That's what I would like to know.

[63] What am I getting myself into here?

[64] What do I have to do?

[65] I'll keep reading.

[66] Well, it looked like on the flyer there was a prep session last week that we may have missed.

[67] So I fear that the other contestants will be showing up a little bit more prepared than Greg.

[68] Literally.

[69] I trust Greg, his ability to think on his feet and learn on the fly.

[70] This is, if anything, he's proven over the years that he's an adaptable human being, who you give him a set of circumstances, and he'll get used to it.

[71] I'm so happy this is happening.

[72] You have to guarantee me that there will be no media there.

[73] Well, you'll be there.

[74] If Airy odds are from NBC 6 is there and I'm on the 6 o 'clock news doing this, it will be mortifying.

[75] It's Will Manceau.

[76] Great name, Joyce.

[77] No, I can guarantee R .A. will be there.

[78] And Will Manzo.

[79] I will tip him off.

[80] No, please.

[81] please no don't you dare because Ari would show up he would and he's been tipped no Craig we should make a bargain if you go today he'd show up without being tipped now he might be 60 maybe he's dancing if you go today we'll do this deal on Dan's behalf Dan will do this when he turns 60 okay I'm gonna hold you to that next year yeah I like this next year deal this is the old wimpy from from Popeyes right I will gladly pay you for a burger today with two burgers tomorrow whatever I'll gladly give you two dollars tomorrow for a burger today yeah that's how it is good reference by I mean thank you Christopher you do have to promise me that the heat will be forewarned about this that we're not just going up I already I'm texting Jeremy right now he'll talk to his people you'll be fine hmm what if you're sure I don't want to disrespect that if the worst case they don't let you come.

[82] Like, we're not going to, if they say no, we will listen to them.

[83] You're not by doing it this way.

[84] You're honoring the trial.

[85] You're going.

[86] You're not demanding you make the team.

[87] You're going.

[88] You're on the team.

[89] The optics would have been bad if you did what I suggested, which is just bomb in and use your fame.

[90] But no, you're doing this the right way.

[91] Greg, you're showing that you put your pants on one leg at a time, just like everybody else.

[92] I don't, though.

[93] I put my pants on two legs at a time.

[94] Do you?

[95] Yeah, I do.

[96] Sitting down?

[97] You sit down and do it.

[98] No, I do.

[99] Yeah.

[100] Interesting.

[101] And one, it has to be exact.

[102] Right.

[103] One can't one leg, pant leg can't be leading by more than three inches.

[104] They have to be even the entire time.

[105] What if one leg gets caught in that thing with like the shorts?

[106] That happens.

[107] Yeah.

[108] Especially with a new pair of pants.

[109] So you start over?

[110] I had Christopher and Michael holding either side of the pants and then you from a platform above jumping down landing.

[111] That might work with the big fat -legged bib overalls or something.

[112] I've never worn a bib overall in my life.

[113] Really?

[114] Why not?

[115] My dad used to wear a bib Wild Bill?

[116] Yeah.

[117] No kidding.

[118] Oh, yeah.

[119] Wild Bib.

[120] You're okay?

[121] Oh, damn.

[122] That's a good laugh.

[123] Until he drops.

[124] Get it out.

[125] Wild Bibb.

[126] Wild Bib used to wear him for work purposes or just a fashion?

[127] Just for fun.

[128] Really?

[129] Sure.

[130] No shirt.

[131] Really?

[132] Oh, that's how you do it.

[133] No, he wore a shirt.

[134] Oh, yeah.

[135] Flannel.

[136] Straw hat.

[137] That's a chafing nipple nightmare.

[138] No shirt.

[139] Yeah, we don't like the no shirt look.

[140] or any circumstances.

[141] Ever?

[142] No. I shower with a shirt on.

[143] No, you know.

[144] No, I do.

[145] Get out of here.

[146] Yeah, I do.

[147] In your pool.

[148] Well, I wash my hair in my pool.

[149] Yeah.

[150] And then I'm usually shirtless, but not always.

[151] Then transition to the shower, put a shirt on.

[152] Nice fresh shirt.

[153] That's right.

[154] Take the shower, rest of the shower.

[155] Pants on, two legs at a time.

[156] What if you're the golden oldie that has to, like, lift up the shirt to show your belly?

[157] That ain't going to happen.

[158] No, wait, that is a move.

[159] That is a thing they do sometimes.

[160] You have such a marquee.

[161] belly button, though.

[162] You do?

[163] It's a draw.

[164] It seems like a mean nose the full routine.

[165] How well are you familiar with this?

[166] I've watched 8 billion Miami Heat games, and it feels like the Golden Oldies are at every game, even though I know that's not the case.

[167] Look, they are a well -oiled machine.

[168] Now, Greg, I'm going to tell you right now, it's the Miami Heat, so they don't like the blade of grass that sticks up the wrong way.

[169] They want everybody moving in unison.

[170] So you're going to have to show that you can conform a little.

[171] But there is a way to be a star within conformity.

[172] Don't let people tell you that that means you got to be bland and uniform.

[173] You can still pop while still going with the flow.

[174] I assume that the people auditioning today would be newcomers, right?

[175] Like their first -time auditioners.

[176] They probably make veterans re -audition, I would guess.

[177] That's what other cheer squads do.

[178] Do they?

[179] Yeah.

[180] Wait, do you get past the first cut at least or something?

[181] Like, there's got to be some.

[182] Wow.

[183] You don't know the first round by.

[184] So you made the team last year?

[185] You're starting from scratch this year?

[186] That doesn't seem right?

[187] That doesn't seem fair at all.

[188] I feel like there's politics involved in that, though.

[189] You know what I mean?

[190] Like, you have to try out, but...

[191] Guess who's good at politics?

[192] Who?

[193] Gregory Cody.

[194] Wow.

[195] GPC.

[196] Seven votes, baby.

[197] Greg, if you had to do, like, an audition to one song, and it was, like, your signature song and, like, your signature audition dance, what song would you choose?

[198] Maybe King of the Road.

[199] Wow.

[200] That's a good one.

[201] for sale or else.

[202] Dance to this.

[203] Room to left 50 cents.

[204] What are you dancing to this?

[205] I don't know what I'm...

[206] I don't have a dance move.

[207] It would seem that the music you liked is not necessarily dancing friendly.

[208] Oh, yes, it is.

[209] Thank you, Bill.

[210] No, it is.

[211] It is.

[212] I'm wrong.

[213] The waltz and the kind of ballroom dance.

[214] Does I listen to that, guys?

[215] He listens to stuff.

[216] Like, he's wearing a tits in the May Toll's shirt right now.

[217] To film it.

[218] He's got a tits of a tux.

[219] deeper catalog he's not listening to chamber music or it is true polka it is true he's a hip -hop fan he likes back like he's got rhythm why are you getting so defensive because he's kind of like it's just what you're presenting is what you're presenting is just not true sorry he likes LCD sound system he likes music with like some 808 north american scum you're welcome this is very exciting I mean you're You're going to be a golden oldie.

[220] We hope not.

[221] No, no. No, you have to try your best.

[222] Don't go out there and tank it.

[223] Don't tank it.

[224] Oh, if Greg's going up there, he's going to try his best.

[225] I mean, what's the point, right?

[226] How can we incentivize you to try your absolute best?

[227] What's an incentive you'd like?

[228] I wish I knew more about what I'm getting into.

[229] Like, am I just in a line kicking my leg with other oldies?

[230] Or am I doing a routine all by myself?

[231] Like just...

[232] Well, we've established that you don't like being all by yourself, right?

[233] You hide on the dance for is the way you put it.

[234] I think there's a way to make it work, though, with a dance troupe because they usually put the best dancers front and center.

[235] And as you move further to the back, those are the weaker dancers back there.

[236] So I'm going off all my golden oldies experience, watching all these Miami Heat games.

[237] So don't think that, like, hey, if I get on this team, they're going to put me front and center, and then I have to lead this thing.

[238] They hide you.

[239] So there are bad golden oldies.

[240] There are ones that are not as good as the best ones.

[241] The best ones are really good.

[242] That's reassuring.

[243] It's like bench players on an NBA team.

[244] Yeah.

[245] So the best ones are probably like former Rockettes at Radio City Musical.

[246] Or just people who love the art form.

[247] Yeah.

[248] You know.

[249] That ain't me, babe.

[250] You make your demands, Greg.

[251] You tell them where you want to play.

[252] That's it.

[253] You know, I want this spot.

[254] If you make the teeth.

[255] Well, he's going to make it.

[256] But you got to try.

[257] I feel like I'm talking to my kid right now.

[258] Like, you can't just go in there with a defeatist attitude.

[259] You've got to go in there to try.

[260] Inherently, I am going to be embarrassed and embarrassed myself, but not willfully.

[261] Okay.

[262] Just by lack of dancing talent.

[263] Can we practice a little?

[264] Yeah.

[265] We've done this before, but let me see your belly by.

[266] Stand up.

[267] Get a little practice in.

[268] All right.

[269] For the audio audience.

[270] The only dance one I have is a signature.

[271] Yeah.

[272] That's a good one.

[273] Congratulations.

[274] Tail.

[275] That's good.

[276] Now drop it down low and twerk your little ass.

[277] Is there a sprinkler in there or anything?

[278] A little side to side.

[279] You know the sprinkler?

[280] Lawmower.

[281] That's good, man. You're fluid.

[282] Give us a kick.

[283] You've got a good gait.

[284] Well, no, no, don't give them all the goods right now.

[285] Got like a Michael Jackson kick in you or something?

[286] Don't give him the cow.

[287] What's the thing Snoop Dog does?

[288] Let's see.

[289] You don't want to see walk.

[290] Don't see walk.

[291] I think that's it.

[292] They do do that, though.

[293] They shouldn't.

[294] Well, guess what?

[295] Just try it.

[296] Go ahead, now.

[297] What?

[298] Keep going.

[299] Do the gritty.

[300] I'm out of moves.

[301] What is the thing?

[302] Do the gritty.

[303] I know you know how to do the gritty.

[304] Oh, that's a boy.

[305] All right.

[306] Greg, teach me how to doggie, Greg.

[307] Black Beetle's Challenge, go.

[308] I don't know how to do any of that stuff.

[309] What is the gritty?

[310] What is the gritty?

[311] What do you think it is?

[312] Why don't you do what you think it is and then we'll say yes or no?

[313] What?

[314] Is that it?

[315] That's the gritty.

[316] There you is the gritty.

[317] There you got.

[318] That's the gritty.

[319] That's actually not too far removed.

[320] So does your boy tell him, Greg.

[321] All spent.

[322] That's all my material.

[323] See, I don't have to audition now.

[324] Just send that tape to the Golden Ole organizer.

[325] Superman that O. So, before, what time is the audition?

[326] Noon.

[327] And it's across the street.

[328] It's not.

[329] It's in Pepper Pines.

[330] It's in another county.

[331] We're doing it, though.

[332] We're committed.

[333] I already see Danny with a backpack on.

[334] So he's got to leave.

[335] really fairly soon wow no Danny does always have a backpack what time do I have to be there 11 is when the registration starts but just leave now you're gonna leave after this segment and go well Greg should have someone register for him I think well hold on if it doesn't start till noon can I get there like 1155 that's a great question we want to get there around 11 15 1130 and we can like go check in with you set the vibe check it is important for you to politic also when you get there right you get there five minutes before then the other golden oldies think oh this man thinks he's above us.

[336] You need to go and shake some hands, maybe find out who the judges are.

[337] In the 11 o 'clock hour, maybe you and Jeremy can get the person who's judging this and we interview them and put a little pressure on him to just make you get on the team.

[338] That's a lot of work.

[339] I have an idea for you, Greg.

[340] Who does Chris have in the Keeper League?

[341] Because I heard the trade deadline got extended.

[342] So maybe if you go, you guys do a little...

[343] I got Chris Olave.

[344] I have...

[345] What the hell else do I have?

[346] Tyree Kill.

[347] It sounds like a hand lotion.

[348] Olave.

[349] Okay.

[350] You're right.

[351] Speaking of it.

[352] I have another song for you with Olave because of Puka Nakua.

[353] Yeah.

[354] I wanted you to do Olavee.

[355] Oh, lavee.

[356] Oh, lavee.

[357] Yeah, we can work that.

[358] I wish part of this trial was singing.

[359] You'd be a lot if it was.

[360] It could be.

[361] It could be.

[362] Olave.

[363] Now dance while you're doing that.

[364] I don't know.

[365] You got to dance.

[366] I can't do both.

[367] You can't do both.

[368] That one's an easy dance.

[369] You just have one hand on your chest.

[370] Oh, I like that.

[371] You kind of Christopher walking.

[372] There he goes.

[373] Now you've got to sing too.

[374] Oh, la 'le.

[375] I have no idea the words of that.

[376] That's the words.

[377] That's it.

[378] That's all I know about that song.

[379] There's a great Colombo episode where they're on a cruise.

[380] And the woman is singing the song while the murderer slips into the cabin and does the murder.

[381] It's a very good episode.

[382] The murderer slips?

[383] Does he go, Oh, lave?

[384] Oh, oh.

[385] No, the cruise singer sings Valari while the murderer slips into the room.

[386] Oh, yeah.

[387] You said slips.

[388] And then does the murder.

[389] Slip as in sneakily enters.

[390] Okay.

[391] I love the idea of my dad getting there ready to go, and they're like, sorry, sir, no boat shoes.

[392] Good.

[393] And then I'm disqualified from auditioning.

[394] He's don't make marks.

[395] That's the boat war.

[396] We have time to get your shoes.

[397] I'll do it barefoot.

[398] I'll dance barefoot.

[399] I don't care.

[400] Problem solves.

[401] What's going on on the Great Cody show this week?

[402] We have Mario Cristobal on the Miami Hurricanes football coach He's unusually candid It's very good interview Interview cuts out 20 minutes in Just because my dad Doesn't have a proper Zoom Yeah And then we finished the interview on the phone It was weird We the father -son Olympics are coming to a crescendo Wow And we are trying to settle on a final tiebreaker Oh there was a tie -five Yeah it's 5 -5 We need a tie -breaker I have a vote online.

[403] The categories are put -put -put -go.

[404] This is a new and unimproved Dan Levitar show with the Stugas.

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[407] It smells like football.

[408] I forgot what they smelled like.

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[414] Don Lebatard.

[415] And then that Stapert through him 25 and 2.

[416] Oh, there's a brand new kid in town out of BYU.

[417] Stugats.

[418] They call them boo.

[419] This is the Dan Lebatar show with the Stugats.

[420] For those of you tuning in live right now, you just turned on.

[421] on the YouTube live stream or wherever you're catching us.

[422] And you're saying, wait a second, it's a Greg Cody Tuesday.

[423] Where's Greg Cody?

[424] We sent him.

[425] He's actually, he just left.

[426] He's on assignment.

[427] We sent him on assignment to go try out for the golden old.

[428] He's complaining like, where is this place?

[429] You had to drag him out of here.

[430] He's just like, wait, I've got to bring my stuff.

[431] I'm not coming back.

[432] I'm like, Dad, this is in pines.

[433] He's going to fit him perfectly.

[434] Can you imagine the back in my day?

[435] material he's going to get out of that just being around other people no is he going to be like the young whippersnapper there or oh is he the young one no he's 70 in 60s the age I can't believe you reveal the age I mean we've talked about it we knew he was 69 we made jokes about it yeah nice or maybe that was just me I just me jess has been making jokes I feel less certain now that that was on air so we await to hear word from Greg Cody up there of how that process is going.

[436] A little bit later today, we've got two suey categories.

[437] Chris, one of them is the best back in my day.

[438] Yep, because I thought my dad would be here.

[439] I didn't think we were sending him to try out.

[440] He did one this year?

[441] We had enough.

[442] Honestly, there was 10 this year.

[443] 10 total.

[444] Which if you think about it, it's not that much.

[445] It's like one every five weeks.

[446] But weren't like two of them AI?

[447] It's less than one a month.

[448] I ended up cutting two of them.

[449] so like there's eight nominated wow so I don't remember about I don't think they're AI ones are we gonna listen to the full back in my days no I I abbreviate them yeah man it's it's curate it's about 13 minutes of back in my days we have coming up later in the show what's the other suey best mistake well worst mistake oh boy that's how we call it are you best known for I think it's dismissal I think Dan owns the mistake category I bring it strong this year really I bring it strong this year are there any better than Vince Will Fork or was that That was that one.

[450] That was uncomfortable last year.

[451] That's not nominated this year.

[452] Dan, Dan usually dominates this conference.

[453] And Dan brings it this year, but I give him a fight for his money.

[454] Fight for his money.

[455] Did I say that?

[456] Did I not say that?

[457] I don't know if you said that.

[458] I'm not going to lie.

[459] I watched.

[460] Yeah, run for his money.

[461] There's another one.

[462] Fight for his life.

[463] I mean.

[464] We'll add that for him.

[465] If you did that on purpose, it would have been great.

[466] I thought you were.

[467] I did.

[468] I watched the best dismissal suey category yesterday, and my honest to God reaction was, I need to get better at dismissals because I wasn't nominated for a single one and I was just listening to Billy and Stugatz just crush it and Mike honestly Mike that was unfair swearing at Mario Cristoball for not kneeling it down was a moment hold up hold on bullshit I did not do that that was after an entire show of you guys brow beating me put us there in that moment I knew you'd hate that yeah I did unfair I did thanks and it was like minutes removed for me asking for Mario Cristobal to do so back.

[469] Jess, I think we're friends.

[470] As a friend, I would say, don't worry about the dismissals.

[471] Career -wise, better not to get into the dismissal game.

[472] I mean, it's worked out well for me. No, until it does it.

[473] You're on the right path.

[474] I had the same thought as you also.

[475] Keep it straight and narrow.

[476] Yeah, Chris, just as like a governor from here on out, if you're like, that's really going to upset Mike, don't do it.

[477] Just like, don't.

[478] Don't put me in that spot.

[479] Just don't.

[480] But if you know what's going to annoy me, don't do that.

[481] I will say.

[482] I'm not Dan.

[483] I'm not anybody.

[484] Like, just, I'm asking, please, don't.

[485] Wait, Mike, are you saying that in the history of the show, we're approaching the 20th year?

[486] You have never done something knowingly that was going to piss someone off?

[487] No, no, no, I have.

[488] And if I were actually doing that in that moment, by all means, frame it that way.

[489] But to frame it inaccurately is just total b -hundred on their show's words.

[490] Oh, wait, being framed inaccurately, that should be a sui category.

[491] Since that's what we do is give full context on all these mistakes.

[492] You know what you did.

[493] You know what you did.

[494] Don't pretend like you don't know what you did.

[495] I thought I knew you ripping Cristobal would be funny.

[496] Yeah, but I didn't.

[497] I will say this.

[498] Oh, you!

[499] Is that it?

[500] Out the gates, you had me saying F you, and you make it seem like I'm just saying to Mario Cristobal F you.

[501] I didn't do that.

[502] You didn't?

[503] I'm legitimately asking.

[504] Now I'm very confused.

[505] Do we replay the tape?

[506] I didn't.

[507] I didn't.

[508] And you guys know that.

[509] It sounded like you.

[510] Yeah, it did.

[511] Did someone say something to you?

[512] Did, like, what happened?

[513] Guys, you guys think it's all cute.

[514] Mike, I'll say this.

[515] I was happy.

[516] I was happy that it was included because it reminded me to talk about my Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets one more time.

[517] How you like them jackets?

[518] Huh?

[519] Making people money?

[520] Making them mean proud.

[521] Was there any part of you that wanted to go to Dublin for this game?

[522] I mean?

[523] Go to Dublin?

[524] Why not?

[525] Now you've got too far.

[526] No, no, no, no, no. No, you know, I'm, look, I go to one game a year.

[527] I've got to mentally prepare myself because as you guys know I'm a super fan who most of the year masquerades as someone who doesn't give a shit so in order for that one day a year where I have to actually project as my true self my true super fan self I've got to prep for that I've got to do a little bit of homework I've got to do a little research and then I go and I got to be surrounded with my friends that I went to college with because they provide me with a lot of the research and information in order for me to present as a super fan I truly am before I go back to being the fraud that I am for that 364 days a year.

[528] Speaking of frauds.

[529] Yeah, thanks.

[530] The U .S. Open's about to start.

[531] It is.

[532] It started.

[533] Or it started.

[534] Yep, started.

[535] Sure.

[536] There you go.

[537] Frauds.

[538] I'll tell you.

[539] And Yonix Center, the world number one, is playing despite testing positive for an anabolic steroid.

[540] For more on this, we go to our tennis correspondent, Michael Ryan Ruiz.

[541] This was a massive scandal.

[542] It's got a lot of players upset, and a lot of players are upset because of a double standard.

[543] Now, there is precedent for players being suspended for a long time when they have this amount in their system.

[544] Now, to be clear, this was explained to me via Andy Roddick's podcast.

[545] The amount that was found in his system was less than a grain of salt.

[546] And the defense, so God's correct me if I'm wrong, is while receiving treatment on a table, Center had an open wound and one of the creams used as a topical cream got into his bloodstream and it had a band substance and his trainer was using that cream to treat something on his own body and it's like allegedly like seeped through Yonix in her skin and so then he tested for this like infatessimally small amount of this band which is in the like the Italian version of Neosportin right it has this anabolic steroid in it right but all this being said on the surface and how we're presenting it, oh, okay, that's good for a sinner.

[547] Like, this seems unfair if he were to be banned, and the ruling was he's allowed to continue to play.

[548] However, it seems unfair if you're buying his story.

[549] It seems unfair if you're buying his story.

[550] There's a lot of circumstantial evidence that would suggest a lot of injuries that kind of correspond with some of the symptoms that go along with this ban substance, and a lot of former players that have been dinged for similar amounts, wondering why the double standard.

[551] It's interesting.

[552] I mean, and then he did the thing.

[553] So I had no idea what they were putting on my body, which I highly doubt.

[554] I'm skeptical about that.

[555] And then he fired the two people who have been with him the entire time while he's risen to number one in the world.

[556] He fired two people who are a big part of his team.

[557] That part I found very, very odd.

[558] By the way, he had his case go before a panel of three independent experts, two of whom were unaware of his identity.

[559] but they didn't even know who they were judging, and they found the explanation plausible that the trainer had some on his hands, and then they went into the wound, and then later on in the treatment session.

[560] But I'm with Stugats, like, hey, man, all right, my bad, like, it's literally a microscopic amount.

[561] You're going to fire me?

[562] Well, that's what he tested positive for, a microscopic amount, and there are people out there on the Internet, the arising.

[563] Well, there are masking agents that could be at play, that this is the amount that they found but it may not be the amount in their system also leading to more circumstantial evidence is Yonix Sinners rise to prominence to be the world number one, the present number one seed in this.

[564] He's had a really good year.

[565] It's not like he came out of nowhere this was a prospect that people had high hopes.

[566] He was building, yeah.

[567] But he really turned it on probably ahead of where most people projected him at this point.

[568] So you have this guy really ascend, you have injuries and circumstantial evidence mounting and you have the fact that you have precedent with other tennis players at being punished for similar amounts and you wonder why is sinner allowed to do this but you do have to credit as you did an independent court two of which didn't have any idea who he was decided that he wasn't guilty of purposefully doing this i like the idea by the way real quick so that the two that didn't know who he was it wasn't that it was a blind taste test or whatever it was just like so this is yonick sinners sample and like who the f is yonick sinner yeah it's like great Cody, like, I don't pay attention.

[569] They were tennis fans.

[570] But this is a big -time scandal, and there was a lot of, a lot of tennis players weighing in, and you have the U .S. Open going on right now, and he is the number one seat.

[571] So it is a massive scandal in the world of tennis.

[572] It gets down, I think, this is the interesting part of the story.

[573] If you're the number one tennis player in the world, if you're a professional athlete, aren't you aware of everything that's being put in and on your body?

[574] Are you telling me Sinner didn't realize this until he tested positive?

[575] He didn't know what they were putting on his body?

[576] I do think that you trust your trainers to adhere to guidelines.

[577] You're also asking him to not only know what's on the topical cream, every ingredient that goes into that and if it's against the rules.

[578] But also to know, we don't know like what the – I don't know what the wound looked like on his leg.

[579] possible that he didn't know that he even had a wound on his leg.

[580] Sure.

[581] But don't you think there's a conversation between player and team?

[582] Guys, here's the band's substance list.

[583] Don't put any of this on my body.

[584] That never happens?

[585] Well, by the excuse, it was it wasn't even going on his body.

[586] The trainer himself was treating himself.

[587] And then this got into his system because there was some residue.

[588] Again, it was smaller than a grain of salt.

[589] The idea is that the guy was working on something else, hadn't washed his hands properly or whatever, and and then started working.

[590] Secondhand smoke.

[591] Yeah, a little bit of that.

[592] A lot of this kind of falls into that tainted meat plausibility.

[593] Tainting meat, two my favorite words.

[594] There are trace amounts in this, and it's a believable thing.

[595] So people are wondering, like, is this going to be the new tainted meat excuse?

[596] This is the new my dog ate my homework, right?

[597] Like, oh, my trainer didn't wash his hands.

[598] I guess then.

[599] I'd never heard this excuse before, and maybe the first time that I heard tainted meat, I kind of had a similar reaction.

[600] Like, I didn't know that was possible.

[601] Oh, okay, I guess.

[602] And then everyone had tainted meat stories.

[603] So I don't know if everyone's going to have open wound stories going forward.

[604] The other thing is this an anabolic steroid that's in this Italian neospore.

[605] And apparently this steroid is an over -the -counter drug in Italy.

[606] It's not, you know, it's very readily available.

[607] So it's not like they went to some shady back alley guy to get this thing.

[608] And Cinner is Italian.

[609] And Cinner is Italian, despite a name that doesn't track.

[610] That's why I wanted to make that clear to the audience because Yonix Center doesn't seem like an Italian name.

[611] I also, isn't part of the controversy, like the, they didn't make this public until after the appeal and everything had been settled, and a lot of tennis fans are irritated and annoyed, and a lot of players are annoyed, that they just found out about this, even though it happened in March, I would say?

[612] That is probably the biggest reason as to why, because now all of this seems far too convenient for Yonix Center, And the double standard isn't just in the punishment, but it was how the secrecy was upheld.

[613] Like, you can start seeing where the mind gravitates towards conspiracy theories.

[614] New number one, we just made a brand new superstar.

[615] We're losing all these stars in the men's game.

[616] And almost immediately, you have guys like Sinner and Alcaraz, they ascend to just pick up the slack almost immediately.

[617] That's how you do it.

[618] And it's awfully convenient in the eyes of many.

[619] Now, Stugats, I got some quotes for you here from several people.

[620] First of all, it's from Dennis Chappalov, a Canadian player who was scheduled to play in the first round on Monday, where he played yesterday.

[621] Different rules for different players.

[622] I understand why he would say that.

[623] I think that.

[624] Nick Curios, we all know and love Nick Curios, Miami Heat fan.

[625] Ridiculous, whether it was accidental or planned.

[626] You get tested twice with a banned substance.

[627] You should be gone for two years.

[628] What, two years?

[629] I like the Nick Curio's dismissal here.

[630] And then this is from Sinner himself.

[631] Obviously, it's been a very tough moment for me and my team.

[632] It still is.

[633] It's quite fresh everything.

[634] I also know who is my friend and who is not my friend now.

[635] Because my friends know I would never do that.

[636] Stugats, do you like Curios' is extreme dismissal?

[637] Sedano -esque, if I may. Remember when he tried to ban Rudy Gaubert for causing COVID?

[638] Yeah, for life.

[639] Yeah.

[640] Or do you like Yannick sinners saying, hey, at least now I know who's on my side and who's not?

[641] I think when you're sinner, that's one of the things you have to say because you're trying to convince everyone that you had no idea.

[642] This was an accident.

[643] So you have to say, that's one of the staple things you say.

[644] It's kind of like a hot take, right?

[645] Yeah.

[646] One of the things you have to say is you should be ashamed of yourself or he had the audacity, right?

[647] Those are keys to hot takes.

[648] That's the key.

[649] That's a counter.

[650] Yes, yes.

[651] Okay.

[652] What Sinner is doing there is one of the keys to, hey, I did it, but I didn't do it.

[653] You know what I'm saying?

[654] So I like Curios, because I do think, first off, the rules should be the same for every player.

[655] They really should be.

[656] Those kind of rules, okay?

[657] Within a team, if one quarterback could fall asleep during the quarterback session and the backup can't and the backup gets, you know, gets waived if he falls asleep, I understand those rules being different.

[658] But these are general rules to the sport.

[659] Right.

[660] And so I am with Curios that if he indeed tested positive, and he did, he should be suspended for longer.

[661] Yes.

[662] Wow.

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[686] Don Lebertard.

[687] You have some hot takes today.

[688] Joe Chestnuts of fraud.

[689] Oh, he's on fire.

[690] He called Connor McDavid overrated before the show.

[691] What the hell was that, Greg?

[692] Yeah, no. I love it.

[693] Stugats.

[694] Roy, let me explain it to you.

[695] And not that you need to, you know more about hockey.

[696] And this is coming from a guy that's watched Connor play six times.

[697] Right.

[698] If that.

[699] This is the Dan Lebatar show with the Stugats.

[700] We have the Rahim Moster interview that's coming up a little bit later.

[701] So before we do that, just to tee this conversation up, this Dolphins as conversation, Billy, you want the media to stop doing what with regards to the Dolphins.

[702] What I want them to start to, just like, let's drop the Brian Flores to a thing if we can.

[703] Like, we got that.

[704] You mean the thing that this show started?

[705] Yeah, the problem that we started, let's kind of put that to rest if we can.

[706] Because I feel like now every time to a talk, they just ask him like follow -ups on Brian Flores.

[707] But isn't this our, like we ran with the full week?

[708] No, it's 100%.

[709] And now we're telling people it's too much.

[710] I'm just saying, like, you know, let's not continue this distraction that we ourselves caused.

[711] Because yesterday, they asked Tua, like, follow -ups because then Brian Flores commented.

[712] So then, like, in a perfect world, it's like, okay, well, that's the end of that.

[713] But then the journalist decided to journalism, and now they're doing follow -ups and two, and I feel like this is going to be continuing to be a thing.

[714] So here's what Tua had to say yesterday.

[715] You mentioned in your comments to Dan how he was highly critical of you through that process.

[716] And yet there was, I think, somewhat of a surprise that he made the change when he did.

[717] Why do you think that change to bench Brian and insert you happen if he was so down on you?

[718] That's a great question.

[719] I'm not going to answer that truthfully right now, but I think I know why, but I won't, you know, I won't speculate or give anyone any speculations on that.

[720] You know, whatever, you know, you want to create to think, think that.

[721] But other than that, I think that'll just stay here with the organization.

[722] So he did learn his lesson a little bit.

[723] He is done telling the truth.

[724] That does seem like he's like, I saw what happened last time I was really honest.

[725] So I'm just going to not this time.

[726] Do you see the body language difference?

[727] With you guys, arm around Chris, legs sprawl.

[728] If I was there playing with my drawstrings, he would have answered that question.

[729] It was a comfy couch, too.

[730] I mean, he was all stiff.

[731] I guess it kind of diffused it, but there are ways to answer that question to further ensure that you won't be asked similar questions.

[732] That door is still open.

[733] Yeah, but that's not our fault.

[734] That's his.

[735] No, that's what I'm saying.

[736] He left the door open.

[737] Well, ultimately it's our fault for starting the problem.

[738] For asking a question?

[739] He went into that interview within 10 -tane to that question, honestly.

[740] Right, but Billy, you're saying you want journalists to stop asking him about this.

[741] Correct, yes.

[742] I want journalism to stop in this case.

[743] I get a chance to end it right there.

[744] Let's just focus on the football season that's about to start please.

[745] Why do you, why is that?

[746] Why do you what's the, this is interesting?

[747] No, no, no. What's interesting is winning a playoff game.

[748] None of this nonsense.

[749] You don't want any distractions.

[750] No distractions.

[751] Let's put those blinders on.

[752] Let's get focused up on this season.

[753] Right.

[754] If the dolphins don't play well, are you going to blame Dan?

[755] Ooh.

[756] Yes.

[757] Oh, that feels like a no -brainer.

[758] It's got it's got to be Dan's fault.

[759] You know, while I know it's Dan's fault, because the question asked, they didn't say on the Dan Levitart show or in that interview.

[760] It said when Dan, there's one name.

[761] Like it's Selena.

[762] Here's the chair.

[763] Salina?

[764] Here's the, Gomez.

[765] Here's the issue that's confusing is, according to Stephen A, Dan was a Dolphins plant, right?

[766] Yes.

[767] So if Dan was a Dolphins plan in this situation, do we blame Dan or do we blame someone from within the Dolphins organization for throwing off this season?

[768] So is Dan, hold on, wait, is Dan a pawn in a grander scheme?

[769] That's what I'm wondering.

[770] And who is it?

[771] Who planted him?

[772] Who planted him?

[773] Roger Goodell.

[774] I thought we did that the whole thing.

[775] It all started with the Josh Norman hunt.

[776] But if you believe what Stephen A is saying, I think, Billy, this is the way it goes down.

[777] Someone from the dolphins or two his camp would have to reach out to Dan.

[778] That's the way it would work.

[779] I think we have this all backwards.

[780] Remember when David Sampson said that the thing he hated the most when he was the president of the Marlins was when the other teams in South Florida were successful?

[781] Do we think that Pat Riley has now infiltrated Dan's brain to get the dolphins to be worse so that people will be excited about the heat again.

[782] This is a great theory.

[783] This is how inside jobs happen.

[784] We're looking in the wrong place.

[785] We're looking at the dolphins.

[786] We should be looking at the heat.

[787] Wow.

[788] And he's known to carry water for the Miami Heat.

[789] That's what point.

[790] Unbelievable.

[791] I just blew this thing open.

[792] Right in front of us the whole time.

[793] It was another off season where they struck out.

[794] You feel like the end of the usual suspects where he's looking at all the stuff on the bulletin board?

[795] No one's talking about how the heat.

[796] Struiter got away.

[797] It's amazing.

[798] Now we're just sending my.

[799] dad there.

[800] Number one dolphins guy is going to the heat.

[801] Did we put him in a losing spot?

[802] I kind of feel like, no, quite the opposite.

[803] He's in a position of power now.

[804] All right, I feel better now.

[805] Yeah, but he's also a pawn.

[806] The spot's irrelevant.

[807] It's just a, just look over here.

[808] Look over here.

[809] We're all ponds.

[810] Don't you see?

[811] We're all in this.

[812] Pond stars.

[813] Are we all pawns?

[814] Did the heat put that thing on my social media so I would see it so that I would send my, like, now I'm feeling like I'm being played.

[815] Who gave you the drawstrings?

[816] Damn it.

[817] It's like a gift on the Miami.

[818] The bald guy from security.

[819] Can I be chungly?

[820] Bernie was in this studio a few months ago.

[821] Which Bernie?

[822] Mascot.

[823] What other one did you think I was talking?

[824] I'm in too deep.

[825] I've already said too much.

[826] I've already said too much.

[827] There's another Bernie.

[828] Pat Riley was inside Bernie and whispered his instructions to dance.

[829] So there'd be no paper trail, no text trail.

[830] I thought it was odd that he had Gucci loafers on.

[831] Yeah.

[832] Parmally?

[833] This is all making sense now.

[834] You're going to go into Buffalo with Bernie Palmerly.

[835] I miss Greg.

[836] Wow, it's all coming together, folks.

[837] This is crazy.

[838] Mike, I have, there's no way to transition out of that, but I have an uncomfortable amount of money on the hurricanes this weekend.

[839] Don't put that on me. For just this game, don't put that on me. I think I've been...

[840] No, you sold me. You did.

[841] You keep saying that I've sold you.

[842] I think I've been like super chilling.

[843] I actually think Saturday's going to be a close game.

[844] Mike's made me nervous for UM on this because he's talked about how it's like the most important game in history.

[845] Like, I'm not even a diehard U .M fan and I'm nervous for you.

[846] By the way, I saw an interview with Steve Spurrier hit YouTube and he said that this is the most important Gators game since 1988.

[847] Oh, classic old ball coach.

[848] I mean...

[849] No, but Mike, I am not.

[850] nervous because combination, okay, you have sold me on Cam Ward, you have sold me on how good the offseason has been.

[851] I'm just saying, you've told me they're talented.

[852] Yeah, I mean, Cam Ward's a proven commodity.

[853] I don't need to tell you how good Cam Ward is.

[854] You watch them at Washington State.

[855] And it's been a good offseason in talent acquisition.

[856] A lot of people have, they've been the popular pick to win the ACC.

[857] Greg McElroy, I think, does a great job with his podcast, very insightful.

[858] He picked the canes to win the ACC.

[859] Yeah, there's a lot of hype But what I would say is, there's a heavy public road favorite, and two years ago, granted, they had an NFL quarterback under center.

[860] Billy Napier beat a Utah program that was humming because of that atmosphere.

[861] It's one of the best atmospheres in college sports.

[862] It's great.

[863] The longer that Florida is in that game, say Damien Martinez runs 60 yards first nap, then we're good, right?

[864] But you give that crowd a reason to believe, and no Miami players have really experienced that atmosphere as a college.

[865] collective as a unit, this is quite the jump up for a team that has been disappointing over the last few years.

[866] And by the way, a team and a program that has never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

[867] They have, anytime there's been like six seasons over the last 20 years where they've entered a season with lofty expectations and been a vogue top 10 pick.

[868] And they always disappoint.

[869] 2017, they were a miraculous team, kind of a bit of a fraud, but no one had high expectations for that.

[870] So they always find a way to disappoint.

[871] If I weren't so close to it, the money that you do just on principle, the bet that you place is the home dog Florida in this spot.

[872] Stugats, you said you made a massive bet.

[873] How massive of a bet did you make?

[874] A lot of money.

[875] You don't ask someone that.

[876] No. It's Keynes minus two on the road.

[877] It's a combination of, I do believe in what Mike is saying about the Kane's roster, and I don't believe in Napier or the Florida Gators.

[878] That's fair.

[879] That's fair.

[880] I think they have a lot of question marks on the right side of their line.

[881] I think Mertz is probably underrated.

[882] He's been a good quarterback for them and he plays within the offense, probably a little conservative, but that'll play.

[883] If they make mistakes, then the momentum can get running.

[884] But I think that everything about this Miami hurricane season really hinges on that game at Florida because the schedule certainly opens up for Miami if they win this one.

[885] Mike, I got November 2nd circled on my calendar.

[886] Miami versus Duke, Mani Diaz revenge game.

[887] Wow.