Giant Bombcast 07-05-2011

[0] Everyone, it's Tuesday, July the 5th, 2011, and you are listening to the Giant Bombcast.

[1] I'm Ryan Davis.

[2] Joining me, Vinny Caravella.

[3] Hey!

[4] Jeff Gerstman.

[5] Hello, I'm here.

[6] And Brad Shoemaker.

[7] Huzzah!

[8] Wow, what a great 4th of July weekend, huh, you guys?

[9] That was crazy.

[10] That's so hungover.

[11] Oh, sunburnt and hungover and full of meat.

[12] Surprised I made it out of there alive.

[13] Me too.

[14] I'm a ghost.

[15] Vinny doesn't actually exist.

[16] That's how good his 4th of July weekend was.

[17] That's how you celebrate, motherfucker.

[18] So tell me about it.

[19] How was your...

[20] It was great.

[21] It was fantastic.

[22] We built a roller coaster and ran all the way through San Francisco on the roller coaster.

[23] It was pretty awesome.

[24] I don't think you're telling the truth.

[25] That sounds absurd and fantastical.

[26] Have you ever been a ghost?

[27] Oh, it was a ghost roller coaster.

[28] It was the great ghost coaster.

[29] Why?

[30] What did you do?

[31] It's my favorite peanut special.

[32] The Great Ghost Coaster.

[33] It's the 4th of July.

[34] Yeah, right.

[35] Exactly.

[36] Oh, how did you get the Great Ghost Coaster?

[37] Well, it's because you're not Christian.

[38] Damn you, Charles Schultz.

[39] A rock.

[40] Oh, Linus.

[41] Hey, do you know the true spirit of the Great Ghost Coaster?

[42] Let's move on.

[43] We've got limited time.

[44] Yeah.

[45] Because 4th of July is ending quickly.

[46] True enough.

[47] I have no idea what to talk about here, you guys.

[48] I'm out of stuff.

[49] I played the Uncharted multiplayer.

[50] I watched Brad play the Uncharted multiplayer.

[51] There we go.

[52] Let's talk about games.

[53] I saw a dude turn into spiders.

[54] Dude, you can turn into spiders.

[55] Wait, hold on.

[56] You guys actually were able to trigger the...

[57] We were not.

[58] Oh, you saw a dude do it.

[59] We had a ringer on our team.

[60] Oh, what was his name?

[61] Batsman.

[62] Oh, I saw Batsman.

[63] Most valuable player of the Uncharted 3.

[64] Quick look.

[65] Batsman was able to turn into spiders.

[66] So what is that...

[67] What?

[68] Dude, you turn into spiders.

[69] How do you turn into spiders?

[70] Press a button when it tells you to.

[71] Are you taking issue that this is canonical, like the series is going to some sort of high sci -fi fantasy?

[72] Well, maybe.

[73] I was thinking.

[74] Remember when you fought blue guys in the last one?

[75] Yeah, but fighting blue guys and turning into spiders are two totally different things.

[76] I had this discussion with Brad.

[77] Some ancient voodoo curse.

[78] Yeah, on the quick look, which was...

[79] I feel like that series never went into Hocus Pocus magic, right?

[80] It was always kind of like Scooby -Doo -ish where like, that looks magical.

[81] And then it's like, no, it's just mirrors or they eat a fruit or there's something kind of explains it.

[82] I wouldn't say that.

[83] Kind of.

[84] There were monsters in the first one.

[85] But they weren't monster monsters.

[86] They were like based in some kind of reality of like, well, you know, this radioactive fruit or whatever it was.

[87] I don't know.

[88] I don't know if I'd go.

[89] There's a healthy amount of mysticism.

[90] There is mysticism, but it's not.

[91] They don't explain it.

[92] Completely supernatural.

[93] It's not.

[94] But it's kind of.

[95] There's no ghost coaster.

[96] Yet.

[97] Yet.

[98] So I was thinking voodoo curses, yes.

[99] Like some kind of like, oh, like the curse of the whatever might turn you into like spiders, but then it won't actually be spiders.

[100] I don't know.

[101] It's like some kind of like Scooby -Doo style.

[102] Like, oh, like it was, you know, the spiders were there all the time and like Elaine just got abducted kind of thing.

[103] I'm also just happy to accept that as for the multiplayer mode, we decided to throw some crazy shit in there.

[104] Like, I don't need it to necessarily be like...

[105] And you just turn into spiders?

[106] Yeah.

[107] Like a carpet of spiders.

[108] And what does that do?

[109] Like a hundred spiders.

[110] They crawl in your mouth and your ears.

[111] What else is spiders?

[112] I didn't get to do it myself, so I don't know exactly how you control it.

[113] Fun fact, you eat 10 ,000 spiders every year while you're asleep.

[114] Well, that's the average.

[115] Yeah.

[116] So some people are eating 9 ,999.

[117] That's not counting the ones that crawl in your ear, right?

[118] Or the ones that are drinking out of your eye.

[119] Oh, yeah.

[120] I'm going to crawl in a spider's ear and see how he likes it.

[121] Probably not very well.

[122] sing bad Beastie Boy lyrics.

[123] I think that sounds really dumb.

[124] Why?

[125] How is that anything but awesome?

[126] Nothing about that sounds awesome.

[127] It's pretty creepy.

[128] In the context of your third person multiplayer shooter.

[129] Who knows what else is in there?

[130] I guess.

[131] They're not putting all their cards on the table.

[132] It looked okay.

[133] It sounds super stupid.

[134] They hardly even look like spiders.

[135] It's like a carpet of like...

[136] the darkness that comes against you.

[137] What would you prefer?

[138] Like, you can unleash dogs after seven kills?

[139] You know, that's at least rooted.

[140] The dogs run in from...

[141] I gotta morph into a dog like the...

[142] How much better would it be if you did?

[143] What's my name video or anything like that.

[144] Keep talking.

[145] See?

[146] You're selling me on your super stupid game.

[147] You're not helping your case here.

[148] So Snoop Dogg stars in the next Call of Duty game.

[149] And it's got a really bad morph filter on it.

[150] It's actually the new...

[151] I don't know.

[152] I wouldn't worry about it too much either way.

[153] To be fair, that was the only ridiculous kill streak that I've seen in that beta.

[154] Isn't that almost worse then?

[155] That's not to say there aren't more.

[156] There's no way they're all in that beta.

[157] There's got to be other stuff.

[158] They're holding back.

[159] My fear is that there's just someone back in the audio going, fuck, I don't know.

[160] What if you could turn into spiders?

[161] That sounds good.

[162] Fine.

[163] Sure.

[164] Based on the rest of that beta, it is not as slapdash as that.

[165] All right.

[166] They're clearly putting a lot of work and effort and thought into how all this stuff is designed.

[167] It seemed fun.

[168] Yeah.

[169] They put a lot of thought into, like, I don't know, man, spiders?

[170] Scorpions, that's stupid.

[171] If I had to speculate, I'd say that they, like, created that, whatever that spider tech is.

[172] You see it in the trailer for, like, the singular set.

[173] You see it in the campaign.

[174] So, like, and it looks impressive the way that that stuff moves and just kind of, like, that group mentality.

[175] And I could, if I could speculate here, like, maybe it's like, all right, we have this awesome tech that we use these couple of times in the single player.

[176] Let's figure out some way to get this shit in the multiplayer because it looks so goddamn awesome.

[177] You turn into a flamethrower, and that's pretty cool.

[178] Well, just your arm.

[179] Because the tech was awesome.

[180] Really?

[181] No. See, it wasn't that you were on board?

[182] No, I think that would be even worse.

[183] I don't know.

[184] Jeff doesn't know what to believe anymore.

[185] I don't know what's real and what's not anymore.

[186] I know that I cannot turn into a spider, but I can fire a gun.

[187] And Nathan Drake seems like the sort of dude who would not turn into spiders.

[188] I can turn into spiders.

[189] Well, he said it's Nathan Drake.

[190] How do you know it's not pirate or treasure hunter?

[191] Treasure hunter.

[192] That's my favorite character.

[193] Treasure hunter is probably down with being a spider for a little while.

[194] Pirate definitely.

[195] Oh, yeah.

[196] Pirate all about turning into...

[197] So have you guys, have you played enough of that to, like, unlock any of the other, like, at least appearance stuff?

[198] There's so much to unlock.

[199] The unlocks for the appearance stuff is weird because...

[200] So you rank up with experience points.

[201] That's what gets you the gameplay relevant.

[202] What do they call it?

[203] Boosters and kickbacks.

[204] There's boosters, kickbacks.

[205] There's also weapon mods.

[206] You can buy boosters mid -game.

[207] There are cash -only boosters, yeah, that I think only last for one match.

[208] Dude, I don't know.

[209] There's so much going on.

[210] And then there's whatever the hot zone, the flash...

[211] Flash points.

[212] Power play.

[213] Power play.

[214] You get the crisping sleeve attachment for your weapon, and you can put the thing in there and just get the heat gun.

[215] Yeah, there's a lot of stuff going on.

[216] Yeah, if you can't tell, it's a little hard to parse all of the stuff that's happening in that beta.

[217] Plus, there's a lot of Uncharted TV playing the entire time.

[218] Yeah, right.

[219] So is that just, like, pre -recorded?

[220] Because I was trying to figure out if that was just, like, okay, are they just looping trailers?

[221] Right now it's just trailers.

[222] Or am I actually, like, watching other people play?

[223] No, no, no. It's all trailer stuff.

[224] But you can see after it comes out, maybe they message the multiplayer community with that stuff.

[225] Maybe they start a weekly show talking about multiplayer Uncharted.

[226] Yep.

[227] Like, guess what, guys?

[228] Two hours a week.

[229] You were right.

[230] The spiders thing was weird.

[231] We're taking it out.

[232] They're not taking it out.

[233] Check out what's new in Uncharted Con. Coming in 2012.

[234] Now you can turn into spiders.

[235] So, yeah, there's also...

[236] The appearance stuff is what you were asking me. Yes.

[237] So all the stuff that affects the way you play just comes as you rank up and buy it with money.

[238] But the appearance of locks...

[239] In -game money.

[240] Yes.

[241] Okay.

[242] But the appearance unlocks are actually tied to these random treasure drops that happen.

[243] Okay.

[244] There's like, at least in the beta, there's like two dozen little treasure sets.

[245] You mean like trench style?

[246] Kind of.

[247] It'll just appear somewhere?

[248] It's like you need to collect a Byzantine coin.

[249] Yeah, it's like there's a three -item historical currency set that is like three different, like here's an Aztec coin and then here's this other, yeah, like he said, Byzantine coin or whatever.

[250] And you have to randomly find those three things to unlock whatever that set gets you.

[251] I haven't figured out any kind of rhyme or reason to how you get those things other than they just kind of randomly drop off people.

[252] Or in levels.

[253] It's a weird...

[254] So it's not even necessarily associated with kills?

[255] It might be?

[256] I don't know.

[257] It seemed like sometimes the treasures were proccing when you would kill a guy, maybe.

[258] Those were medals.

[259] Like when they would drop or whatever.

[260] The medals are what to get you the kill streak.

[261] But it seemed like treasure would also come.

[262] I don't know.

[263] Sometimes.

[264] But sometimes it's in a randomly spawning chest on the map.

[265] Man, I don't know.

[266] There's a lot to keep up with.

[267] There's a level...

[268] There's a ton of shit going on in this beta, it sounds like.

[269] Yeah, but it was super fun.

[270] It all seems really well put together.

[271] There was a multi -stage level, I think it was the airfield, right?

[272] Yes.

[273] Where it begins stage one of that, part one of that level is the cargo plane is on the infinite runway while trucks are pulling up to it.

[274] What about infinite?

[275] I never saw it take off.

[276] It took off.

[277] It took off.

[278] I never saw it take off.

[279] It takes off.

[280] It faded black and said plane took off.

[281] If you've seen, I think they put out some footage of like Drake.

[282] in a jeep trying to chase a plane as it's taking off and he jumps on the landing gear.

[283] That's a level.

[284] They turned that into a multiplayer map.

[285] So dudes are in jeeps.

[286] Crazy.

[287] Spawning in the jeeps.

[288] Yeah.

[289] One team is like spawning in these jeeps and they're not stationary.

[290] That sounds like the most fucking incredible thing I've ever heard.

[291] The jeeps are not matching speed with the plane.

[292] They're like sort of getting closer and then falling back a little bit.

[293] So you gotta hop from jeep to jeep and dudes are in the plane.

[294] So you're not actually driving jeeps.

[295] You're just jumping from...

[296] You're fighting.

[297] You're like taking cover down in the bed of this pickup and like shooting at guys.

[298] So it's just like a mountain.

[299] of spiders are driving the Jeep.

[300] Is there an AI dude driving the Jeep?

[301] I never see it.

[302] The windows are tinted.

[303] I mean, it's basically just moving platforms if you want to be reductive about it.

[304] So they're not like open...

[305] Well, they are.

[306] They're, like, sort of pickup -y.

[307] Like, you can jump behind the cab.

[308] Okay, so there's a cab.

[309] Yeah, like a pickup truck.

[310] Okay, okay.

[311] You're having firefights from the back of these Jeeps.

[312] Pickup trucks are not Jeeps.

[313] Yeah, that's true.

[314] That's true.

[315] There are other Jeeps, like, around the side of the plane.

[316] Are they Jeeps or are they trucks?

[317] They're both.

[318] We need to lock this down, man. I think they're, like, pickup -y trucks.

[319] Pickup -y trucks.

[320] I mean, there's one giant truck.

[321] It's, like, a cargo truck.

[322] And then there's smaller vehicles.

[323] Whatever.

[324] But it was cool.

[325] Yeah.

[326] It's a way for them to get, like, some of that.

[327] The over -the -top scripted action set piece stuff from the campaign into the multiplayer.

[328] It's different.

[329] That's insane.

[330] That sounds awesome.

[331] It looks super impressive.

[332] It's really exciting.

[333] Yeah, absolutely.

[334] So the other team is just trying to hole up in the plane?

[335] Yeah, they're in the plane.

[336] They spawn in the cargo area of the plane.

[337] And there's a side door.

[338] The cargo ramp is down, so they have a line of sight to the jeeps and stuff.

[339] They should probably roll that up.

[340] I just thought it would be a good idea.

[341] Like, we could just close this, and then we don't have to worry about those guys in these Jeeps or trucks or wherever the fuck they're in.

[342] And then, I guess, so then the plane took off, we assume.

[343] Yeah, and then it moves on.

[344] They told us the plane took off.

[345] And then it kind of moves on to, like, a stationary, just like you're fighting in an airfield and stuff.

[346] Okay, so that's, like, not the full...

[347] That's not the full map.

[348] Okay.

[349] It's sort of like a...

[350] So you start with that part and then transition into...

[351] But I couldn't tell if it was time -limited or if, like, the other team was...

[352] This was in Team Deathmatch, so I guess they weren't going for an objective or anything, but...

[353] Oh, you know, the other thing was, so there's a three -team Deathmatch.

[354] Oh, yeah, there's, like...

[355] Which was kind of cool.

[356] I'm going to blow anybody's mind here.

[357] Next level.

[358] Three -team deathmatch.

[359] But it was only pairs of two.

[360] Yeah, it's actually, the teams are pairs, and there's like a buddy system you can spawn on your teammate and stuff like that.

[361] I saw some of that in some of the other modes of the...

[362] Yeah.

[363] Yeah.

[364] Yeah, that was fun.

[365] I liked the dynamic of that, like, two -on -two -on -two.

[366] Well, you were with Batman.

[367] That's true.

[368] I was playing with Batman.

[369] You had your ringer?

[370] Can't knock Batman.

[371] Is he just a guy that you just randomly...

[372] He was killing it.

[373] You just randomly got into the game?

[374] Yeah, we match made into the six players, and he ended up on my team.

[375] This isn't some inside man at Naughty Dog.

[376] No, not at all.

[377] I don't think so.

[378] But I couldn't have been more pleased, because there was no way I was going to get the spiders myself.

[379] Getting the killstreaks is really hard.

[380] At least that one, because it's the highest level one in the beta.

[381] I played one match of that game the first day that they put it out last week, and just got smoked.

[382] It worked, because it does feel a lot like the Uncharted 2.

[383] multiplayer, a lot of those same ideas still apply, so if you've been playing a lot of that, you're going to come into this with a fair amount of skill.

[384] You can transition easily.

[385] I mean, some of the controls are different, like square melees for them, and a lot of games it's reload.

[386] I was meleeing a lot when I wanted to reload and stuff, but yeah, there's people out there at level 30 already.

[387] And then we hit the replay editor, and then we broke the game.

[388] Don't stress the cinematic mode too hard.

[389] We tried to find the guy turning into spiders again, and we killed it.

[390] That was the end of the quick look.

[391] That was the end of the quick look.

[392] They've got tarantulas at the San Francisco Zoo right now.

[393] I saw that.

[394] Through Labor Day.

[395] I'm not going there.

[396] Don't go to the zoo.

[397] No. It's not even an exhibit.

[398] There's just tarantulas right there.

[399] A tarantula is not, they're not poisonous, right?

[400] Oh, yeah.

[401] Are they?

[402] Oh, yeah.

[403] They can be.

[404] Some of them.

[405] Yeah, I think like some.

[406] But not like, usually not like.

[407] Like Black Widow style.

[408] No, no. Not like very dangerously.

[409] It's more fucking.

[410] For bugs.

[411] Beasting -y kind of.

[412] Like Daddy Long Legs.

[413] Isn't that the most poisonous spider?

[414] That sounds like an urban legend.

[415] I've always wondered.

[416] Oh, like they're the most poisonous, but they can't actually...

[417] The fangs are too soft to pierce your skin.

[418] That's what I always wondered.

[419] It sounds like some bullshit.

[420] Yep.

[421] I bet it is.

[422] It sounds like some bull...

[423] I don't want to hear about that.