JRE MMA Show #22 with Bas Rutten

[0] Three, two, one.

[1] Boom!

[2] And we are live with El Guapo as he tries to navigate his phone with his left hand.

[3] What did you punch with your right hand?

[4] A table.

[5] A table that I was stronger than me. Yeah, this size table.

[6] Why did you punch a table?

[7] Okay, so I was in three states, in six days.

[8] I slept four hours per night.

[9] I just came from Chicago.

[10] And this whole thing, I had to get up at four.

[11] And then I had a shoot, a commercial shoot for my body action system, starting at 10, and this happened at 10 .30 p .m. So I was 12 and a half hours in, and I already said, okay, I'm not going to do it anymore because I couldn't retain information anymore.

[12] I had some lines, two lines to remember, you know, they were feeding me lines.

[13] I couldn't do it anymore.

[14] I said, I said, this is it.

[15] I stop.

[16] But then they said, yeah, but if you can do this little, okay, I'll try that one more time.

[17] And of course, you did it work, and I said, you know what, I throw out my gloves.

[18] And somehow, this is how stupid you are, you throw over your glove, and two seconds after I took it off, I hit the table somehow, I still needed to hit something, and I decided to do it without a glove instead of with a glove, a solid thing, guess what's going to lose?

[19] My pinky knuckle, and they incapacitate your entire arm for that, pretty much, I think, just for a pinky knuckle.

[20] They call it a boxing fredger.

[21] Yeah, these two are like, that's like the old school bringing us back to karate combat.

[22] Old school karate days, I would always recommend that you punch like this.

[23] You know what I did?

[24] And I know, and I was going to do that.

[25] But the amount of force I was using at this moment, I, I really fast in milliseconds and you had to go say it's better to spread out the impact even more because I was.

[26] Because you're hitting it so hard.

[27] Yeah, I knew I was going to bring the big one to if I would do it.

[28] Oh.

[29] Yeah.

[30] It was just one of those stupid things.

[31] You just lost your marbles.

[32] And five seconds because I hit, boom.

[33] They look at me. Everybody's freaking out.

[34] And I go, no, it's over.

[35] It's just, you know pain.

[36] I said, no pain.

[37] But it's broke.

[38] You said, how do you know?

[39] I said, trust me, I can feel it.

[40] So I was right away, I was calm again.

[41] Everything was good.

[42] Nobody died that night.

[43] I know.

[44] That right arm's been through hell.

[45] It's been.

[46] And you know, this for me to lose cool like that, that happens once every five years or so.

[47] But I get angry, I never get angry.

[48] I don't have that.

[49] Not that kind of anger.

[50] That I hit something.

[51] I mean, how old am I?

[52] Right.

[53] You seem to always be a happy guy.

[54] That's what I am.

[55] But I think it's also because I'm happy.

[56] So when it gets angry, that's what the fights.

[57] That's what always happens.

[58] I'm nice nice, nice, nice, nice, nice, nice.

[59] Try to defuse it.

[60] Then I realize, wait a minute.

[61] And then I'm asking them.

[62] I say, you're not, you don't think I'm afraid, right?

[63] I say, I'm doing this for you.

[64] I'm protecting you right now.

[65] That's why I don't want to fight.

[66] And at the moment you say that, you know, some of them call your bluff.

[67] And then because he did it for such a long time, yeah, then I'll make sure that.

[68] Boss smash.

[69] But those are the old boss days.

[70] Those old boss, there's no more, no more boss like this.

[71] I like that actually And I don't think it's a healthy buzz either How was your arm doing in terms of like the atrophy Is it growing back?

[72] You see the atrophies?

[73] It's definitely growing back though Yeah, it gets a little bit bigger now I have this new stuff that I'm trying I have it at home I need bacteriostatic water for it It's a peptide called BPC 157 Did you ever hear of that?

[74] Yeah, Ben Greenfield told me about that It's great for tendons and ligaments and stuff Yeah, even nerves and regrows apparently everything and rats.

[75] I mean, they regrow tendons, everything, and I'm going to try it.

[76] I'm going to try it locally here on the biceps, see what it does.

[77] As soon as I have the water.

[78] So it seems like the muscles are growing back, though, like slowly but surely, right?

[79] Yeah, but it's six years.

[80] Six years.

[81] Look at this.

[82] That's crazy.

[83] Yeah, it's, I go 25 pounds.

[84] I can do eight times now, bicep girls with the right.

[85] That's a lot better than it used to be, though.

[86] I couldn't do five pounds.

[87] Wow.

[88] Yeah, not once.

[89] Pat Militich is the same thing.

[90] Same thing.

[91] thing from his neck.

[92] You know what you want to hear how crazy Pat's injury was?

[93] Pat's disc had deteriorated so badly that his discs fused themselves.

[94] And he didn't realize that.

[95] That guy is a complete animal.

[96] He didn't even realize it.

[97] His discs fused themselves.

[98] He went to the doctor and they're like, well, we don't have to fuse it.

[99] It or he fused itself.

[100] Well, you can't, if you talk to him and he looks at you, it's like he hasn't fused neck, right?

[101] He's always like Batman.

[102] He's stiff.

[103] He looks to the side.

[104] You can't move.

[105] Yeah.

[106] So I guess.

[107] Fucking grappling, man. I know.

[108] They'll blame it on punching and kicking, but all the knees, injury, everything, my rib that was out, my loss, it's all wrestling.

[109] Yeah, it's grappling and wrestling.

[110] Wrestlers are all fucked up.

[111] We were talking about Kurt Engel yesterday, who's Olympic gold medalist, fantastic wrestler.

[112] I mean, he's got a neck that literally is like the size of my waist, but his neck is so fucked up.

[113] Both of his arms are tiny, and you can see the atrophy in his arms.

[114] It's like his arms don't match his neck.

[115] Oh, that sucks.

[116] And you can tell, like, I mean, obviously you know better than anybody about neck injuries, guys always like their arm shrink because they get atrophy.

[117] It cuts off the nerves.

[118] So with him, it's both ways then.

[119] Yeah, well, it looks, we should pull up that picture again, Jamie.

[120] See if you can find it.

[121] This is Rhonda Rousey's Instagram.

[122] You could see it.

[123] I saw him at the induction at the International Sports Hall of Fame.

[124] I was there for, Rhonda was there as well.

[125] And he was sitting first row, but he was wearing a suit, of course, so I couldn't tell.

[126] Yeah, well, he still looks like a tank.

[127] Yeah, he does.

[128] But his fucking neck is ridiculous.

[129] It's so big.

[130] But, like, look at this, what happened?

[131] That's us.

[132] That's great.

[133] See, look at his arms.

[134] Oh, wow, yeah.

[135] So the size of his neck?

[136] I mean, his neck, it looks like his arms should be as big as his fucking legs.

[137] Yeah.

[138] He just is, I mean, the guy's been through hell.

[139] But look at the fucking size of his neck.

[140] Have you seen a neck like that before?

[141] That shit's crazy.

[142] That might be the...

[143] muscle around it, I guess.

[144] Well, yeah, it's all fucked up.

[145] It's been fused and as yours, right?

[146] Yeah, for this fusion, front and back.

[147] Well, one splint, you know, that opens it up, and then the other ones are fusions.

[148] And I have a friend of mine who has five, and he can't move.

[149] Like, look, with me, I have mobility.

[150] He can't do this.

[151] He can't look to the side a little bit.

[152] Yeah, I was talking to a buddy of mine about a mutual friend of ours, and I didn't realize that he had done this, but he had went to Germany and got his whole back fused.

[153] his whole back is completely rock -solid fused.

[154] You know who has that too?

[155] Who?

[156] I was looking for him in the hospital, Don Fry.

[157] Don Frye has that too?

[158] Ten disc fusion.

[159] This guy died twice on the operating table.

[160] He had infections, the wots were broke, everything.

[161] Man, I was in his hospital.

[162] He lost a lot of weight.

[163] He had a big beard.

[164] And he said, check this out.

[165] He stood up.

[166] And from his butt crack all the way to above his shoulder blades, one big zipper oh 10 disk fusion how many disks are in your back probably 10 I don't know I have no clue we got to Google that that's fucking crazy how many do you think you're in there Jamie I 13 I go 15 16 16 so there's one disc hanging in there Jesus Take me One one disc It's got to go That's what they say with fusions If you have a fusion Then the discs below or above I'm going to be next they say because there's 33 oh wow it's not that bad then he's doing great that's only 10 fusions Eddie Bravo has an artificial disc they put artificial discs in now these articulating titanium discs I couldn't do that at the time yeah yeah it was in the early but Eddie's got no problem with it at all it moves great but that's what I mean for me I can't do it anymore maybe future you know with the the printing that they do now the 3 3 printing maybe they can make an exact copy of my spine and then they put it back in there it will be something but that's a scary imagine that they cut your spine out put a fucking titanium one in my my daughter my oldest daughter just told me my ex -wife she's going to have to do it at the lower back she's like two or three fusions they're going to need to do but she's going to do disc replacement as well yeah yeah yeah disc replacement is legit now you know what brawlio estima Brazilian jiu jizu black bow very famous jiu jiucii guy he's got one in his neck he was the first guy that I ever about it he he fucked his neck up really bad and then won the worlds with a fucked up neck and then right after the worlds went and got it operated on what where did he do it because he's from Brazil they did it in Brazil I think he did it in Europe because he lives in England Germany will be a that I would let the Germans look at my back they're really good they're far advanced yeah well you know we got really fucked up with during the Bush administration they they put a ban on all stem cell research you know they kind of like halted the brakes on funding stem cell research, which is really a shame, because now we're realizing stem, because they used to think that stem cells had to do with babies, like fetuses.

[167] They were thinking people were going to get abortions just so they could use the stem cells.

[168] But now they realize that mesenchymal stem cells and adult stem cells are some of the best.

[169] And one of the things they're doing in America now is sucking fat out of people, taking liposuction, and then using the stem cells from your own body to proliferate injured areas.

[170] I did it two weeks ago.

[171] for my knees.

[172] Did you?

[173] But yeah, I have no fat, though.

[174] So it had to take it out of my hip bone.

[175] You know, they drill a hole in there.

[176] They take the marrow.

[177] Yeah, they take the bone marrow.

[178] And it's unfortunate because in the fat, apparently have five times more the amount of stem cells than you have in the bone marrow.

[179] So people out there that are fat are pumped to hear that.

[180] They're like, yes.

[181] Oh, see?

[182] I told you.

[183] That's why I did it.

[184] Just if I ever get injured, I've got a store of medicine.

[185] That's why thank Gabby never got injured.

[186] Even if he did, he wouldn't know.

[187] Yeah.

[188] What does that guy do in these days?

[189] I have no clue.

[190] I know he wrote a book.

[191] There was the last time he had on the M .M .A. Oh, you guys had him on?

[192] Yeah, I mean, that's five years ago.

[193] That guy was a fucking character.

[194] I mean, if it wasn't for guys like Tank Abbott, I mean, there would have been no early days.

[195] Yeah.

[196] You know, I mean, you needed a guy like that.

[197] Yeah, you used to identify with him, right?

[198] So a lot of these crazy guys out there.

[199] So he can do it.

[200] I can do this.

[201] Yeah.

[202] That's what you need.

[203] Yeah, had a giant bell in.

[204] He would knock people dead.

[205] Yeah.

[206] He was like Roy Nelson only with no stamina.

[207] And no black belt.

[208] No black belt and juizzi.

[209] Well, Roy Nelson is a fucking complete anomaly, right?

[210] Yeah, he is.

[211] Why can't he lose weight?

[212] How is it possible that he trained so hard?

[213] I've seen this guy throw around like 130, 150 pounds.

[214] Cattlebells, like one arm swings, wring, wing, bing, like it's nothing.

[215] They go, you would lose weight, right?

[216] You would think.

[217] He would be a 185 pound phenom.

[218] Instead, he's a heavyweight.

[219] He's a big contender in Belmont.

[220] Maybe it's an implant.

[221] in the belly that he just wants to do that the Buddha belly implant you can just kick him and he doesn't even feel it he's wearing a chest pad you imagine someone did that I mean if girls get fake boobs let's think about this because girls do get fake boobs and they fight yeah you know girls have got I don't want to mention any names wink wink but we've seen it girls have had no boobs and all of a sudden they had boobs you can get fake boobs and still fight but what about a fake belly what about a guy that says I just like a belly I like looking good You know, if a guy had a fake belly, I was going to try to see if we're going to hit it to the back.

[222] So I make a hunchback out of him.

[223] See if you can move the belly with a hook to the back.

[224] Wow.

[225] Lower back.

[226] We never had one like that.

[227] Right.

[228] You know?

[229] I mean, the hunchback from Notre Dame, that's a high.

[230] Right.

[231] But no one, you never saw a hunchback from the bottom.

[232] Right.

[233] Like lower back.

[234] We can make that.

[235] Like a lumbar pad.

[236] We can work as a lumberjack.

[237] Yeah.

[238] Yeah, he sleeps all night and it works all day.

[239] Like, if you look at Roy Nelson, he's like the size of a really good middleweight.

[240] Yeah, no, he is.

[241] But meanwhile, the guy knocked out Czech Congo, knocked out Brendan Schaub, knocked out some big fucking heavyweights.

[242] Yeah.

[243] Knocked out mitrione.

[244] I mean, fucking...

[245] He's a animal.

[246] He knocked out a lot of people, man. Stapel Strauver, right?

[247] Also.

[248] Did he knock out seven years?

[249] I think it was.

[250] I do not.

[251] remember that fight.

[252] And the worst thing is it's with his right hand.

[253] So you would think that people are going to hill the left up.

[254] Yeah.

[255] But somehow he connects anyway.

[256] It's like wrong with the arm bars.

[257] You know, you know what's going to happen.

[258] You can't stop it.

[259] No, almost knocked out Overeign.

[260] Remember that?

[261] Yeah, yeah.

[262] He heard Overeign.

[263] Yep, Stefan's True.

[264] Bam.

[265] Jesus Christ.

[266] Crazy.

[267] Yeah.

[268] I mean, Roy's like six feet tall.

[269] Stefan's true, seven feet tall.

[270] I mean, fucking animal.

[271] Roy's an animal.

[272] And honestly, I mean, look at his gut right there.

[273] How much is that?

[274] He weighs about 250, right?

[275] He's, he, I'm not bullshitting.

[276] Yep.

[277] That is, he is 50 pounds overweight.

[278] And he's a world -class athlete.

[279] I mean, you cannot say that Roy Nelson is not a world -class fighter.

[280] He's absolutely a world -class fighter.

[281] And he's 50 pounds overweight.

[282] So you drop down 50 pounds.

[283] Now you're 200 pounds.

[284] You make 85.

[285] You cut weight.

[286] Everybody does that.

[287] Cut 15 pounds.

[288] You're 85.

[289] You're a world champion.

[290] You know, there's nothing, butter bean.

[291] You know, we were somewhere an Atlantic commissioner told me from all the boxes on the card, he had actually the best blood pressure and cholesterol.

[292] What?

[293] For real, he said, we were a shock that the guy is in a phenomenal shape.

[294] That's what he told us.

[295] That's insane.

[296] That's insane.

[297] Butterbean made him look like Jaya Rodriguez.

[298] Look at him.

[299] Jesus Christ, that actually looks good there His whole family He looks good there He looks exactly like that, I hear Go upper right -hand corner Yeah, that's what he looked like When he was at his worst Meanwhile, he's another guy Knocked dudes dead Man, he is so funny He had such a good time with him And there was a prince George In Canada he was there He's a player Is he?

[300] Oh yeah That's hilarious Very funny guy That's funny You know he's a fucking hell of a cook Apparently You can't tell I was watching a video of butter bean cooking some ribs And I was like, damn, that looks legit Like he had a smoker, he was cooking them in a smoker He broke the rule though Don't get high of your own supply So tell me about this karate combat thing you're doing We've seen the videos of it Yeah I like the fighting surface Fitting in a pit It's a great idea Oh did you watch it I mean what they do with the collars You know, when it's fighting, it's like a little reddish, and the Turks dark purple, when there's a break, you're going to run up that hill out of the pit.

[301] That's a little bit.

[302] But I like it a lot, yeah, because you can use the wall as well, that 45 angle degree there to jump up like Patters would do.

[303] You know, you can use it to put yourself to improve in the fight.

[304] So I think it's really great.

[305] I think the rules as well, they kept everything on distance, long shots, long punches, the hooks, the Moasichukis, you know, which are pretty, so they allow.

[306] hooks.

[307] They wanted to stay away from uppercuts, elbows, and knees just before the cutting, and they don't want to make it bloody.

[308] So they understand that, you know, you show everything is technique, of course, but for people who have been complaining, I mix out martial arts, I can't understand the ground, and some other arts out there too complicated.

[309] Well, this has been around for such a long time.

[310] Everybody knows karate.

[311] If you find out how many people did karate, I mean, when they grew up, look at this.

[312] It's a beautiful picture.

[313] The way it's filmed as well, if you the camera, this one camera that goes behind the people, it's almost like a movie.

[314] The one camera angle they had from above, I say, okay, we've got to stop with that one.

[315] That was the only one, but they did, they stopped.

[316] Then they have to the heads -up display that is also something that nobody had ever before.

[317] That environment is perfect.

[318] It's like a movie.

[319] That's how it should be.

[320] That's how MMA should be fought.

[321] It should be fought in open space.

[322] I feel like the cage is too much of a tool.

[323] Like you can use the cage.

[324] You're pin a guy to the cage and you could beat them up in the clinch like Randy Couturos used to do.

[325] You could use the cage and get back up if somebody takes you down.

[326] If you get taken down on this, you get taken down.

[327] Like that's it, you know?

[328] You're going to have to get up at skill, like real skill to see if you can get up.

[329] The only thing about this is if you were in the distance.

[330] If it was quite a distance away, it seems like, oh, you could throw guys?

[331] You can throw, and then once they hit the ground, you can't clinch, but the person on top who just threw you can rain down strikes for five seconds from a squatter position.

[332] You can't go down there.

[333] And I already saw fights getting finished like that.

[334] So it's a very effective technique.

[335] Why only five seconds?

[336] Because then they go back on their feet.

[337] They just want to keep everything short.

[338] And the more attractive for the audience, the better it is.

[339] It's like, for instance, now the knees are not in.

[340] But, you know, we were already talking about knees to the body.

[341] That could may be a really good thing, especially because takedowns are there.

[342] So now you can use it against the takedown.

[343] Is that a Bitcoin logo?

[344] Yes.

[345] Bitcoin is one of their sponsors.

[346] Really?

[347] Yep.

[348] Bitcoin blowing up.

[349] Now, can they leg kick?

[350] A leg kick below the knee.

[351] And I've been talking to them also.

[352] This is the good thing about this organization.

[353] That's why I really enjoyed working with them, is that they're open to suggestions.

[354] They're open to rule changes.

[355] We're going to just see what happens right now.

[356] And if the urge comes up, they say, yeah, we should add low kicks.

[357] Then we're going to start adding low kicks above the knee as well.

[358] Right now, they do it below the knee.

[359] Just like to do it in the UFC as well.

[360] Well, the UFC has above the UFC.

[361] Yeah, he has everything.

[362] But, I mean, we see it a lot in the UFC.

[363] see happening now those low because actually they break the bones right the fibula that will that will snap and with a low kick that won't happen it will just jam your leg and you're yeah well also you can condition the lower leg the same way you can condition the upper leg your upper leg gets used to taking a beating and some guys can just take low kicks yeah but not that low calf kick is debilitating it's annoying and especially if you do it just after like a front kick somebody gives you a front kick you tap it to the side and you immediately kick it so when the muscle is still relaxed, he'll go straight through.

[364] That's when something breaks.

[365] If you can't flex.

[366] Yeah, we've seen over the last few years, that's a devastating technique.

[367] Now, are they wearing shin pads?

[368] No, no shin pads, only these tiny gloves.

[369] You have them there in the back, so you can check them out with the lockecks.

[370] The stones where there's all been knockouts by strikes.

[371] I like the takedowns as well.

[372] That heads up display, it's really cool right now.

[373] It's the first one, whoever does that.

[374] It's a biometric, nutrition, training.

[375] You know, it's a DNA.

[376] based heads -up display that you can see while the fighters are busy you get a heart rate respiratory what they eat what they train before it's all going to start happening in two weeks it will become full circle and then the heads what is the biometric like when does that work they're wearing something they wear these little tiny things so you can see how fast they hit and what direction they head propelling you can pretty much see everything it's amazing and these clothes are awesome I mean they feel great they do feel great yep yeah There's a lot of padding.

[377] Yep.

[378] That's pretty padded.

[379] It's much more than a UFC glove, huh?

[380] It is.

[381] But you know what else, too?

[382] It seems like it gives you a curve to your hand, which is great, which is an issue with the UFC, is the constant poking.

[383] Like if you want to poke someone in the eye with this, you got to kind of, it's like the pride gloves, right?

[384] Yeah.

[385] The pride needs to have that curve to them, and we saw much less eye pokes in pride than we do in the UFC.

[386] You know, but I never got that anyway.

[387] In pancreas, we just open hand strikes.

[388] I never poked anybody in the head, right?

[389] So sometimes you have to think, is this?

[390] It's on purpose or not.

[391] For sure, some of it's on purpose, right?

[392] It's hard to differentiate how much of is on purpose.

[393] It really is, you know?

[394] I said it with John Jones at the time, but he is so calm, so relaxed, so everything.

[395] And then I go, like, that almost has to be then.

[396] Yeah, yeah, I know you've said that before.

[397] I should have worn that thing, right?

[398] That's what you were going to say?

[399] Yeah, I broke my hand.

[400] You could have punched, you could punch something pretty hard with this.

[401] I mean, this is, these are great pads.

[402] Yeah.

[403] Man, this is almost like a boxing glove.

[404] It's like a small amount of boxing glove.

[405] It's like it doesn't cover the whole area, but this is the same kind of pad.

[406] As you see, the side I got the, the tuki, you know, Mawashi Tuki, they're still, and you hit that officially with the side.

[407] What are you calling it?

[408] What is Mawashi?

[409] And the Tuki's a punch, so it comes from the side.

[410] It's a roundhouse punch.

[411] It's a long hook.

[412] Right.

[413] I just say that.

[414] But like this is more like a ridge hand, right?

[415] Yeah, yeah, close line.

[416] Yeah, right.

[417] So you're not punching with the knuckles.

[418] You're hitting with this part of your hand.

[419] Yeah, with that part of the hand.

[420] Like by the thumbbone.

[421] Yeah, but they...

[422] That's a good way to bust your shit up.

[423] I know, but that's why, you know, they keep it long and they make sure that you see the technique.

[424] Once you start doing short hooks, then it's going to be a different story.

[425] We're going to have very close.

[426] You're going to have knees and people are going to be confused again.

[427] Wait a minute.

[428] You can't throw hooks?

[429] You can't throw hooks?

[430] Long hooks.

[431] What does that mean?

[432] Like, if you're in close, you can't throw a short hook?

[433] No, not for the close distance.

[434] But then, think about this.

[435] Now you're close distance, you're going to have to remove yourself away.

[436] It's like a combination.

[437] I always tell my stones, right up a cut, right straight, or right up a cut and right straight to the body.

[438] If I give a right up a cat, I'm too close for the right straight.

[439] But that look, I step backwards with my right, and I right away.

[440] I create distance.

[441] Why limit punches?

[442] That seems silly.

[443] Because they want to keep it as close to karate as possible and as clean as possible.

[444] I get it, but a left hook, like a tight hook of a guy's right there and bam.

[445] Yeah, but then they say you could also throw a left elbow, you know, and they took that out as well.

[446] Yeah, so I think this is one of these things that you're simply going to have to get used to.

[447] And think about it with a fighter, it's more difficult for a fighter.

[448] So what do you do if a guy hits a guy with a short hook and knocks him out?

[449] I have no clue.

[450] Then the referee is going to step in.

[451] Well, if it's intentionally, of course, that's a problem.

[452] He's going to lose.

[453] It seems crazy.

[454] Well, how can you make someone lose from a short hook?

[455] That seems crazy.

[456] Talk, talk to them.

[457] All the fights that they had, all the fights that they had before now already, none of it happened.

[458] So I think they're pretty close.

[459] I think then the rules meaning they have a guy who's repeating it like three, four, five times in a row that do not do that.

[460] And plus these guys are karate practitioners.

[461] Right.

[462] See?

[463] So they're not even used to it.

[464] Yeah, but if they're karate practitioners in 2018, they don't want to punch.

[465] There's no, nobody's just karate anymore.

[466] I mean, everybody knows how to throw hooks and uppercuts and...

[467] But I think these rules are the closest rules to the 2020 Olympics.

[468] That's going to happen in Tokyo as well, right?

[469] Karate is going to come back in the Olympics.

[470] Is it?

[471] In the 2020?

[472] Yeah, in Tokyo.

[473] Really?

[474] Oh, because it's in Tokyo.

[475] And I think this is perfect.

[476] Like, Kyokishin?

[477] Like, what are they doing?

[478] It's probably Shodakan, right?

[479] That's the oldest form I would say on Okinawa, it started there.

[480] So are they doing, but that would be below the neck then.

[481] Like, you can kick to the head, but you can't punch the face.

[482] We're going to have to really figure out those.

[483] But that's why I love it with the gloves.

[484] They're probably going to be allowed to hit the face.

[485] Right, but not in the Olympics, right?

[486] I don't know.

[487] I don't know about that yet.

[488] Yeah, because Taekwondo, they took it out as well, right?

[489] And you're going to have the head gear in boxing.

[490] Now you're just optional now.

[491] I believe before I believe.

[492] Well, if it's the same glove, if they make it the same way, why would they...

[493] Are they willing to listen to you?

[494] Yes.

[495] Talk to these people.

[496] Oh, no, I'm already talking to them.

[497] That's the greatest thing.

[498] Why does your phone keep flashing?

[499] I'm a very popular guy.

[500] I think the people are constantly...

[501] Every time you get a text, you get your phone flashes, like the light flashes?

[502] Oh, I do that on the back because many times I have my phone like this, right?

[503] And now I can't hear it, but I can see it.

[504] Now a big light flash come.

[505] Text me. Text me, see what happens.

[506] I do that on purpose.

[507] I keep my phone flat on purpose.

[508] Like, leave me the fuck alone.

[509] I don't want to look at my phone every five seconds because it's flashing.

[510] Yeah.

[511] And, oh, and by the way, you see, that's what I'm looking.

[512] Hooks aren't penalties anymore.

[513] Oh, so they changed it.

[514] Thank you.

[515] Thank you very much.

[516] Because that seems silly.

[517] Yeah.

[518] You should be able to hook somebody.

[519] Just, I mean, it's a great punch.

[520] It's like, I mean, I understand if you want to eliminate elbows, glory took out elbows.

[521] You know, Bellator doesn't have elbows.

[522] belt or kickboxing rather but i think um punches it should be punches you know any anyone you want to punch yeah well back fist everything you can throw everything and you can do it's flying as well all the kicks are allowed you can also except for the low kick to the thigh but for the rest every kick every jumping kick everything is you know but that's that's again me talking and we'll go to see where this is going to listen to you bob yeah they got no they got they got got is they gonna love it come on i you're dutch i wonder how do they not have low kicks you're much yeah yeah That was the reason a lot of Dutch guys won.

[523] Remember all the way back here with the kickboxing?

[524] Fuck yeah.

[525] Ramon Decker's Rob Cayman.

[526] Rob Cayman.

[527] God damn, man. Because East Tyreol, remember that fight?

[528] Yeah, man. Yeah, those were the guys.

[529] Yeah.

[530] So, yeah, Matt, I'm looking forward to it.

[531] If you're nowhere on my, what is it, April 26th in Miami, they have the first show.

[532] I'm pretty sure they will live like.

[533] I'm out of town, unfortunately.

[534] April 26th in Miami, huh?

[535] That's the first show in America?

[536] Where were these other ones filmed?

[537] Overseas, they do, they do it everywhere.

[538] This will be the first show.

[539] It's free, guys.

[540] So do that as well.

[541] Also, what you can do, free.

[542] Free to watch.

[543] To be there or to watch it on television?

[544] You go to karate .com.

[545] There's a button where you can click, watch it live, and it's going to be streamed, but you also have an app.

[546] They have a really cool app because that app gives you the handsop display.

[547] You see, they're right at the top, watch life.

[548] Boom, that's where you click.

[549] Sign up for free streaming access to our next event.

[550] Don't have to do anything.

[551] nice so who's putting this together how do you know these people well they contacted me there's a whole bunch of guys to guy a lot of karate experts as well and they and i think their side with the 2020 olympics you know and i've been talking about this also for a while i said why is not anybody doing this we had chuck norris doing it right right for a while that league and i thought i thought that was cool and now this when i saw this with a bit i go man this i truly believe it's going to take up i think a lot of people got to enjoy this well i hope so I mean, I've been saying for the longest time that striking sports in America, like you got boxing and then nobody pays attention to the other shit.

[552] I mean, people barely pay attention to kickboxing.

[553] Yep.

[554] Just not nearly as popular.

[555] It doesn't, especially to me, I'm a giant fan of Muay.

[556] I mean, I love watching Muay, and I never understood why Muay wasn't more successfully in the United States.

[557] I know Lion Fight had some good traction, and they were doing pretty well, but I don't think they're on access TV anymore.

[558] They stopped, and I, you know, this is.

[559] The people are asking for it every time.

[560] They're complaining about mixed martial arts a lot of people because they don't understand what's going on on the ground.

[561] Now we finally have something, you know, tieboxing, and they're not watching it.

[562] And then glory has the best fighters on the planet.

[563] I mean, it's an unbelievable show.

[564] But not enough people watch it.

[565] Well, it's not mainstream enough in terms of like its exposure.

[566] I mean, you get it on UFC Fight Pass, which is amazing.

[567] And then you can get it on ESPN 3, which is only online.

[568] And sometimes ESPN 2.

[569] but you know I think I mean you look Rico Verhoeven and you see Jamal Ben Sadiq that fight holy shit and he said he was going to do it like that right at the end yeah and Ben Sadiq caught him too early and Ben Sadiq had knocked him out six years ago that was a fucking amazing fight if that was on television that fight was on TV and the end when Rico's pouring it on and Ben Sadiq collapses in the ropes and they're big giant fucking guys I mean that was an amazing fight Rico is incredible his cardio for a giant guy you know for a big and his technique and his distance is his ring strategy everything he's the complete guy and he's a young guy and super smart also is he like 29 yeah i think so it's like a corner right go to 39 as well yeah so i mean he's got a a long future ahead of you think of the amount of experience he has already how will pull up pull up riko verhoven glory heavyweight champion see how old he is i think he just had a birthday i think i think he turned 29 He's a fucking beast, man. Was it?

[570] Today, it turns 29.

[571] Happy birthday, Rico.

[572] Woo -boop.

[573] Yeah, I just don't understand.

[574] I really don't understand.

[575] I don't understand why that's not more popular.

[576] It's keeping it simple.

[577] And this now, even, you take the knees out, keep it a little bit more separate so that people can see the technique better.

[578] It's not better technique.

[579] You can see the technique better.

[580] I think we'll do a lot of good.

[581] Also, a lot of kids when they say, hey, mama, I want to watch Mix Martial Lats.

[582] When you're a very young kid, I don't think the parents are going to allow that.

[583] That's still that little, you know, they don't know.

[584] Karate?

[585] Oh, please, go.

[586] Watch.

[587] Did you see this crazy shit?

[588] They're talking about Connor McGregor fighting Floyd Mayweather with no shoes on in an MMA cage with MMA gloves.

[589] You can clinch, but no takedowns, no knees, no elbows, no kicks, no submissions.

[590] But the clinch.

[591] You can clinch.

[592] You can fight from the clinch.

[593] Yeah, but, you know, Maywein is an animal there also, you know, but still, come on, let a kick, one kick be illegal.

[594] The kick, it would end it.

[595] If he had kicks, that would be the difference.

[596] That's it.

[597] But Connor, even fighting from the clinch, you could tie him up, you could tie him up and hold on to him and hit him like Randy Couture style.

[598] You remember when Shane Carwin fought Frank Meir and tied him and just obliterated him with uppercuts, just boom boom but Shane was a monster but then again he chooses to stand there I don't think that Mayweather's going to choose to stand there if he gets grabbed he pops out he needs to he won't have a choice he's not like he pulls him to the knee and it gets neat in the face you see what I mean because he can clinch with him if he can clinch with them they're standing on the outside and Connor can grab a hold of him how's Maywe're going to shake him off he's not going to like if Connor decides to just wrap a hold of one of his arms just get him in an overhook and just start punching him in the face Floyd's fucked his whole thing is boxing his whole thing is boxing his shoulder rolls moves he's not going to be able to stop Connor from grabbing him Connor's a bigger stronger guy if he grabs Floyd by the back of the neck and holds him in place and punches him in the face Floyd's fucked I don't think he understands when you say the clinch is okay if you could strike from the clinch he's fucked I'll put my money on Connor all day if he can strike from the clinch Now, if they just have MMA fight with boxing gloves, or a boxing fight with MMA gloves, rather, that is a different thing.

[599] That's a different animal.

[600] I think Floyd's just so much better than M. That's what I thought that you meant.

[601] No, no, no. I mean, clinching.

[602] What I read, the only difference, they're not going to let him kick, they're not going to let them punch, not going to them elbow or knee or take down or submissions.

[603] But they'll let them clinch and punch from the clinch.

[604] Just that alone.

[605] That's a game changer.

[606] Just that alone.

[607] Yeah, I don't know.

[608] I'm going to have to see that because, you know, Floyd's going to know, they're going to work on that as well.

[609] He's going to work on those defense.

[610] He's an incredible athlete.

[611] I mean, there's only a few things.

[612] This is not like he's going to have to learn the whole game.

[613] Yeah, but holding onto someone and punching them is such a different, it's just a completely different chapter.

[614] Yeah, but as soon as you hold on to somebody, it means you incapacitated your own arm as well.

[615] You don't have the defense there as well.

[616] So maybe I can start attacking him.

[617] Also, it's a one -hand fight.

[618] It's literally ice hockey.

[619] If you think about it, it's a grap, and they start hitting each other.

[620] Sort of, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[621] But smaller gloves, Connor will have more impact with his punches.

[622] That's true.

[623] And he's so much more used to fighting from the clinch like that, where you can hold and hit at the same time.

[624] I'm interested in that fight.

[625] What if about foot stomps?

[626] You know what?

[627] That's what last time I heard somebody say, the always super effective footstomps.

[628] Give me one fight that never got stopped with a footstom.

[629] Never.

[630] Ever!

[631] It's annoying.

[632] It's annoying.

[633] You ever fought, where somebody's foot stomped you?

[634] No. No, never.

[635] Did you ever footstomp anybody?

[636] No, no. I think I'm one of those guys who would do it back and that's why they didn't do it.

[637] Marco Hulas was like the first guy to introduce that, wasn't it?

[638] Yeah, yeah, you did that, yeah.

[639] Yeah, Marco foot stomped.

[640] You got a bunch of notes here, man. Yeah, I know, I do.

[641] I just spread out.

[642] This is one of my pet things.

[643] I'm throwing it out because, you know, going back to karate and with reading about it, all to get all the terms back.

[644] That's, you know, so that's why I'm going here.

[645] Like the Moashi Gears, we knew that Ura Boa Moashi Gears, Toby, Ura Mawashi Gear, all those kicks you see, but you should know this and you know this.

[646] You're just messing with me. A Taekwondo background.

[647] Oh, that's two.

[648] You got the Chuckys.

[649] Ooh, upchucky.

[650] Upchuggy.

[651] Do you chuggie.

[652] Yep, Chuggie.

[653] Yeah, we got the Chakis, we got the Gearys.

[654] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[655] So how many events are they going to do a year or this?

[656] It's a whole bunch.

[657] They're going to spread them out all over the place.

[658] For the people, what I would say here, It's just karate .com.

[659] What a great domain name, by the way, as well.

[660] Yeah, I think of that.

[661] Yeah, I was thinking the same thing.

[662] That must have been expensive as fuck.

[663] I think so, too.

[664] But they have it.

[665] Go there for all your favorite fighters.

[666] Check it out.

[667] Carati .com.

[668] Carati .com, yeah, that's a big one.

[669] That's a big thing to have.

[670] Yeah, I know.

[671] Holy shit.

[672] Who the fuck owns jujitsu .com?

[673] Jiujitsu .com.

[674] What a website that must be.

[675] To own that?

[676] Yeah, well, I think there's, There's other ones out there to give you even more Nakedgirls .com.

[677] That gives you a lot of money.

[678] That's a lot of money.

[679] Way more than Karatea .com, I think.

[680] Like Sex .com.

[681] Oh, that's crazy.

[682] Don't even click on it.

[683] You'll get a bunch of pop -ups and viruses and shit.

[684] A friend of mine does that.

[685] What is this, Jamie?

[686] Makeup .com sold for $2 million.

[687] Rodeo .com and Karate .com for $500 ,000 total.

[688] Ah.

[689] My body bought Nude.

[690] Dot com for $2 million.

[691] Three weeks later sold it for AIDS.

[692] Damn.

[693] Three weeks.

[694] That's what he does.

[695] buying domain domain names Yeah Smart Can you go back Can you imagine Go back in time Oh my God Like writing all the domain names down Yeah nobody even saw I think of this shit Come Didn't business .com Go for like 10 million bucks Something crazy You know who the fuck is I would have done business dot com I wouldn't give you a nickel For that shit Who fuck's going to businesscom What are you doing there?

[696] I'm gonna do business That's stupid If you're doing business You don't go looking At business .com That doesn't even make any sense That's a worthless fucking domain I bet that's a ghost town.

[697] I bet no one's going to business .com.

[698] What is it?

[699] Know your business.

[700] Grow your business.

[701] Fuck off.

[702] Do it different.

[703] No one's going to that thing.

[704] Do it, B -U -Z -N -I -S.

[705] Yeah, even that.

[706] No one's going to that.

[707] You go to that.

[708] You can't spell.

[709] Yeah, you're an idiot.

[710] Triple X. You go to that.

[711] It's a Nigerian scammer telling you you've won a bunch of money.

[712] It starts glowing up.

[713] You get a telephone call?

[714] Exactly.

[715] Yeah.

[716] So where did this?

[717] originate?

[718] What country started this?

[719] What karate?

[720] Japan.

[721] No, no, no, I mean this event.

[722] No clue.

[723] I'm going to meet these people face to face for the very first.

[724] No, no, no, because I've been doing commentary, and I met some people from the organization because I did some commentary over some fights together with Phoenix Carnivali.

[725] She's there also.

[726] She's great.

[727] She was doing a lot of stuff for a lion fight.

[728] I met her and her boyfriend in New York.

[729] Vic, yeah.

[730] Not this last UFC in New York, but in the past.

[731] I got her tickets for the UFC.

[732] She's excellent, really good.

[733] Post -fight interviews, and she's doing commentary with you.

[734] Yes.

[735] Perfect.

[736] Yep.

[737] She's very knowledgeable.

[738] Yeah, no, it was great.

[739] And we pulled it off right away, so that's why we met these people there.

[740] We did it in Long Island when I was filming there.

[741] Nice.

[742] And so now I'm going to see him in Miami.

[743] In Long Island as well?

[744] No, no, no. We just did it in my hotel.

[745] So you did commentary, like, watching it on screen?

[746] Is that what it was?

[747] Watching it on screen.

[748] Had some people coming in with special microphones, so we tuned it up, you know, That was exactly the same.

[749] You did that a bunch of times for pride, right?

[750] Where you were in America and you were doing commentary for events that were happening in Japan.

[751] Yeah.

[752] And they were live, we do the commentary right over it, live.

[753] What was that like?

[754] It was weird?

[755] No, it's not weird at all.

[756] But I hope that the speed was up to, you know, because if you see an arbor coming, that I never knew.

[757] I never rewatched it again to say, you know, when the arbar is happening, I say, he's setting up an arbar, you know.

[758] If that delay is five seconds or ten seconds, yeah, you have a problem.

[759] But I don't think it is because they stream it out.

[760] They shoot it out from the studio.

[761] So it's like you're watching the fights live.

[762] That's it.

[763] Wasn't there some that you guys did where the fights had already happened and you knew the results?

[764] Oh, I did that with Stephen Quattros.

[765] We did the first 10, I believe, Pride shows.

[766] You know, before 2000, it wasn't sent out on pay -per -view.

[767] Right, yeah, yeah.

[768] So they asked us to do those shows.

[769] Man, I remember sitting there in Holland, you were sitting with Red Bull.

[770] We had Stack.

[771] You remember those spills?

[772] Oh, yeah.

[773] Jesus Christ.

[774] We were like, shh, heart attack pills.

[775] Oh, we were, it was so funny.

[776] Quatos got so crazy.

[777] He's so hilarious when he gets in his zone, you know?

[778] He started suddenly, I'm watching a fight, and I hear, and I looked at the side, he's eating a green apple in front of the microphone.

[779] No, but this is because this is eight hours in, right?

[780] We're watching really boring stuff also.

[781] Oh, this was, by the way, this was not Pride.

[782] We did Pride, but then we did on top of that, we did another one as well.

[783] Pride we did here.

[784] That's what we did here in America with Bud Bruttsman.

[785] And the other show we did in Holland with all these old crazy Russian guys who had like an A and an E in the name.

[786] And the rest was V -P -S -T -R -M -Z.

[787] You know, I mean, I would call him the guy with the red hair or the guy with the red pants because I couldn't pronounce their names.

[788] Yeah, there's some guys in the UFC that when I read their names at the way -ins, I have to pause and try to put it together like some of them.

[789] It's hard.

[790] And you don't want to butcher them.

[791] And then you have these guys, like the fans, right?

[792] They say, oh, you butcher so -and -so his name.

[793] I say, what do you say?

[794] What do you say?

[795] Boss Rutten?

[796] Yeah, you just butcher my name, this is Bas Rutten.

[797] It's not Rudd.

[798] Is that how he's supposed to say?

[799] Yeah, it's not Ernest Oost.

[800] It's not Peter Ertz.

[801] You know, you see, I mean, if you really want to start.

[802] Dutch way.

[803] We asked Fader one time, what does your mother call you?

[804] He says, Fyodor.

[805] I said, we call you Fyodor.

[806] We did that on Pride.

[807] Everybody, you're butchering his name.

[808] His mom calls him like that.

[809] What we asked.

[810] Well, Morrow was the only one that would call him that.

[811] Morrow always called him Fyodor.

[812] Fyodor is very precise with that.

[813] Yeah, Morrow's excellent.

[814] Yeah, he really is.

[815] He's great at that.

[816] It's so nice to see him doing all those big -time boxing matches, too.

[817] Yeah.

[818] You know, he's a good guy.

[819] That guy, if you sit next to him, it's what men people say, oh, it's fake is this.

[820] Trust me, it's, that's what they say method.

[821] That is how he talks, Boss Fruits.

[822] Oh, he gets in his own bubble, and then, you know, if I look at him, I can Put my hand in front of his face.

[823] If he's in the zone, he doesn't see anything.

[824] He only sees the fight and he's going to town.

[825] And everybody steps away and just looks at him.

[826] No, he's designed for it.

[827] He's designed for that.

[828] Love it.

[829] He's doing WWE, too, right?

[830] Yeah, he's insane.

[831] He does everything.

[832] So he does WWE.

[833] He's doing Showtime boxing.

[834] Does he do any M .M .A. Oh, no. The Bellator.

[835] Does he still do that?

[836] I believe he did.

[837] I know Goldberg does a lot of the Bellator's now.

[838] So he does some of the Bellator's?

[839] I think so.

[840] I think the big shows probably.

[841] Because a lot of them Goldberg's doing now Yeah They got a whole crazy theme down And Jimmy's over at the UFC Jimmy's with us now I got him a gig at the UFC Nice Yeah we worked together for the first time The Saturday night It was great Yeah good He's a great guy He's a great guy He's fucking excellent He's an excellent commentate I tried to get the UFC to hire him Four years ago So for me to be there Saturday night Sitting next to Jimmy I was like look at this man We're hugging We did it We made it happen Here we are It was perfect too because we're friends is very easy in the commentary flowed very nice together you know we had a good time that's that's what happened also me and mauro yeah yeah yeah you know there's his friends and you try it out and they go and then it's just a conversation right well that's why me and goldberg worked so well for so long because we're so tight yeah so easy so easy but whatever the ufc and him didn't see eye to i for whatever reason it's a bummer yeah but i love annett too annick's a great guy Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a lot of good guys And what the fans should know Is that a play -by -play guy Doesn't need to know everything He doesn't need to know the techniques That's why we are the experts The caller guys Because I have so many people They say, oh, why don't you take Goldberg's plays?

[842] I'm a caller guy He's a play -by -play guy It's a complete different animal You know, and especially for TV If you got to go to commercials And do all that kind of stuff It's much harder The Anak and Goldberg Those guys are wizards at that stuff That is a hard job It's way harder than our job Our job of doing color We see the fight We call it We call it And we've been doing martial arts Our whole live We know what's happening So we see it We go oh that's a roundhouse kick Oh he's gonna get the triangle Oh he's getting out He's free he's out We're watching it in real time They have to prepare I mean they're preparing Everything like long and advance And practicing And going over Okay turn to page 7 You know beat 152 You got to introduce Monster Energy drink and they're stepping into the monster prep point.

[843] Screaming in the airs the whole time, you hear it?

[844] That's a fucking hard gig.

[845] It's a fucking hard gig.

[846] The coordination and traffic cop and making sure that everything runs smoothly.

[847] So Kenny, Kenny Rice, he's insane.

[848] He does 26 professional sports like at the highest level.

[849] I mean, he did a football.

[850] They never did it.

[851] My buddy calls me, he says, boss, how many times did you do football?

[852] So what do you mean?

[853] He says, he could be the best guy I've ever heard.

[854] I say, that is the first time.

[855] He's insane.

[856] Wow.

[857] When he came to the International Fight League, he never did mix martial arts.

[858] Same as with Morrow, never did mixed martial arts.

[859] But within two shows, it's insane.

[860] But they learn.

[861] Morrow got the DVD set.

[862] Kenny gets the DVD set.

[863] And they actually watch it.

[864] They start learning about it.

[865] Right.

[866] And then they get it, you know.

[867] And they leave, they ask you questions.

[868] Like, boss, what should he do?

[869] Yep.

[870] Boss, is he in trouble?

[871] You know, what's going on here?

[872] Yep.

[873] Yeah.

[874] Yeah.

[875] Are you still doing it for, it used to be World Combat League.

[876] I mean, no, what was the...

[877] World Series of Fighting.

[878] World Series of Fighting.

[879] And now it's Professional Fighters League.

[880] Are you still doing that?

[881] Yes, June.

[882] We're going to start.

[883] That's nice.

[884] And so they still have John.

[885] Is John Fitch and Bellator now?

[886] Oh, I don't know.

[887] I feel like Fitch might have just went to Bellator.

[888] That will be not a smart move because they're going to come at the million dollar price, right?

[889] If you win this season in every weight class, you're going to get a million dollars.

[890] Oh, really?

[891] Yeah.

[892] Oh, no kidding.

[893] So, yeah, that's going to be a nice little pulls.

[894] I don't think that John, if that's 100 % still in place, I think that John will stay.

[895] I don't know.

[896] I feel like John just went to Bellator.

[897] See if you Google John Fitch Bellator.

[898] I know Benson Henderson, Roger Huerta.

[899] Obviously, they have Rory McDonald, who he's, in my opinion, one of the best, if not the best, Walter Wade in the world.

[900] So that's a big deal for them to have him, as is Douglas Lima.

[901] Sassy.

[902] March 1, signed with Belator.

[903] March 1, signed with Belator.

[904] Oh, wow.

[905] I wonder if you knew.

[906] Cheddar.

[907] Yeah, yeah, that's true.

[908] He brought him some cheddar.

[909] That's true.

[910] He's got a big name, you know.

[911] Yeah.

[912] There it is.

[913] John Fitch signs at Bellator.

[914] Well, John's 40 years old now, right?

[915] How old is John?

[916] If you had a guess?

[917] February 24, it's a great day to be born.

[918] Is it?

[919] Yeah, it was born.

[920] Yeah.

[921] How old was you?

[922] 40, bam.

[923] 40, yeah.

[924] Look at me. I know shit.

[925] I've been watching John fight since he was in his 20s.

[926] That's crazy.

[927] Time flies, baby.

[928] I know.

[929] Fuck.

[930] If I go back.

[931] Crazy.

[932] Dude, I had a poster of you.

[933] From the first time you fought in the UFC, they gave me one of those posters and said the world's greatest martial artist.

[934] And it was you fighting for the UFC when you fought Tiyoshi Kosaka.

[935] Remember that?

[936] They asked me, I said, they messed up right that.

[937] I forgot a word.

[938] I told them specifically the world's greatest looking martial arts.

[939] But they forgot that word.

[940] Yeah, they were hyping it up big time.

[941] Yeah.

[942] Yeah, that was cool.

[943] What a time that was, Peretti.

[944] He came over to Japan at the time.

[945] I was fighting to check me out, and he said, they want you in the U .C., so can you come over there?

[946] You know, someone just said something online.

[947] Someone said something about me talking shit about John Perretti, which could not be further from the truth.

[948] Some guy left a comment on Twitter.

[949] I was like, you're out of your fucking mind.

[950] I never said a bad thing about that guy in my life.

[951] I love John Peretti.

[952] I used to love his commentary, even when people hated him.

[953] When we were saying things like, ride him like a pony.

[954] He was riding something like a pony.

[955] Right?

[956] He mounts him like a pony also.

[957] I always said he was great.

[958] He called it like he saw it.

[959] I mean, he fucking had a deep background of martial arts, world kickboxing champion, black belt and jujitsu.

[960] Oh, yeah.

[961] I love that guy.

[962] He knew everything.

[963] And he would say whatever he wanted to say.

[964] He doesn't care.

[965] Yeah, let's give a fuck.

[966] Politician stuff.

[967] Where do people get things sometimes?

[968] And then it becomes like some sort of a, weird rumor.

[969] I didn't respond to the guys.

[970] Like, you know, you should stop talking shit about John Perretti.

[971] I'm like, whenever?

[972] Whenever did I do that?

[973] You remember the boss with an invitation.

[974] We did that a long time ago.

[975] There's a lot of great fights.

[976] Nate Marquard, O2, men.

[977] I mean, Jens Polver, everybody was on those cuts.

[978] It was in Colorado, I think, 99, something around that time.

[979] There was one time we had a 16 -man tournament.

[980] You had to fight four times.

[981] And Polver actually lost in the finals to a guy who he, never heard from it.

[982] That was weird because Pulver became huge.

[983] Anyway, Ron Waterman is fighting this outer shape, out of big guy.

[984] And Peretti is the...

[985] Because I got Peretti as the matchmaker.

[986] Because I knew if I have Peretti as the referee.

[987] If I had a referee, everybody's going to come because they want to show off in front of the...

[988] UFC matchmaker.

[989] And then they're going to fight an out of thing.

[990] The boss with the invitation.

[991] So he's fighting, Ron, the Waterman and he goes to Ron Waterman and he says, listen, this guy doesn't have a lot of skills you know, don't go too hard.

[992] You know, could you please, don't do too crazy.

[993] So Ron takes him down right away.

[994] He's on top and he loads up and he goes very gentle, starts hitting him like a gentle giant, like really not hard and Paredi walks in, breaks it up and he says, okay, it's over.

[995] The big guy on bottoms jumps up and he gets in Paredi's face.

[996] The corner jumps over over at him Paredes face and they start yelling, yelling, and just bull, bull, crap, but everybody gets super aggressive.

[997] When Peretti goes suddenly, okay, okay, you want to fight?

[998] Yeah, okay.

[999] Okay, we restart the fight.

[1000] And they restart the fight, and he walks to Waterman, he says, do anything you want to do.

[1001] Oh, no. Oh, yeah.

[1002] Ron Waterman was a fucking gorilla.

[1003] He was a gorilla.

[1004] Dude, he takes that guy down.

[1005] He mounts him like a pony.

[1006] He starts hitting him, Peretti looking in the audience.

[1007] He's looking away Now the guy gets hit He gets mold Bong bong And he's looking into the audience Faraway And suddenly he looks back He goes Oh Oh I'm sorry break Rob Stop fighting The guy is all bashed up And he walks to the corner He says It's your fault You did this And then he walked up Yeah To early days To early days You could do that stuff Yeah man It was crazy times Remember when they had That one Just submission only thing And they had the Olympic wrestlers versus M .MA fighters and I think Matt.

[1008] Matt, Matt, you won by Hill Hook, right?

[1009] The first one.

[1010] The gold medal.

[1011] The gold medal.

[1012] Jackson?

[1013] I think he...

[1014] No, no, no, it was the other one.

[1015] Kenny Monday.

[1016] Kenny Monday.

[1017] Yeah, and Frank Shamrock fought Dan Henderson.

[1018] Zenoviyev was there?

[1019] Was Zinovian in that one, too?

[1020] Zinovian was a...

[1021] He was an animal.

[1022] He was in World...

[1023] What was it?

[1024] Extreme Combat.

[1025] That was it.

[1026] That was the Paradee show.

[1027] Yeah, he was the guy who tapped Mario.

[1028] Osbury.

[1029] And Peretti at the time already had weight classes.

[1030] Yeah.

[1031] He was far ahead of his time.

[1032] Look at Matt.

[1033] He was a fucking stud.

[1034] I know him like this.

[1035] Morrie Smith in his corner.

[1036] Yeah, that was...

[1037] Old days, man. The old days.

[1038] Yeah.

[1039] Yeah.

[1040] Play this.

[1041] This was interesting.

[1042] Because back then, these wrestlers thought to just be...

[1043] And Dan Gable was one of the guys that was doing commentary.

[1044] It was really fascinating.

[1045] Because Dan Gable thought that if you were on the bottom, you should be losing.

[1046] You know, they had that wrestler's mentality.

[1047] Well, you He took the guy down.

[1048] Look at that.

[1049] Baba Bowie!

[1050] That's hilarious.

[1051] Is that a perm?

[1052] Gary Delabate is the fucking ring card guy.

[1053] Look at that.

[1054] Kenny Monday.

[1055] Tank.

[1056] Olympic wrestler.

[1057] Kevin Jackson right behind him there.

[1058] Yeah.

[1059] So they go at it and he's got his knuckles up, which is weird, because they're not boxing.

[1060] So he's like trying to wrestle him.

[1061] And Matt Hume, barefoot, Kenny's wearing shoes.

[1062] Matt Hume, what a fucking martial artist that guy is.

[1063] Oh, super smart.

[1064] What a coach do.

[1065] Amazing.

[1066] Well, you see it now in what he's done with Mighty Mouse.

[1067] You know, I mean, you realize what depth of knowledge this guy has.

[1068] Not to take anything away from Mighty Mouse, of course, he's got a tremendous amount of knowledge, too.

[1069] But the fact that Matt Hume was able to take this guy, so he just drops down on purpose.

[1070] On purpose.

[1071] And now he's going to start working.

[1072] Oh, yes.

[1073] He went for it.

[1074] That's hilarious.

[1075] That's not a good thing against the guy who knows leg, like.

[1076] Not only that while you're wearing shoes.

[1077] That's what's really stupid about it.

[1078] It's going to do a to -hold?

[1079] Oh, yeah.

[1080] He's going to a to -a -to -hold.

[1081] That's it.

[1082] Vand -4 to -hold.

[1083] Tap, tap, tap.

[1084] Nice.

[1085] That was attacking the ankle and the knee.

[1086] That was both.

[1087] Because his knee was twisted up, too.

[1088] I saw John Lober in pancreas, but the toe -hold broke his shin bone.

[1089] Ooh.

[1090] Yeah.

[1091] I remember that Jason Delushia, I just walked into the arena.

[1092] I said, did he just broke his shinbone?

[1093] and he walked back and he looks at me because he's up next and he says what happened to the word ow he said to me because Lober just kept on fighting with a broken shit and you see the leg all flapping left there right and he jumps on his opponent he's another he's another forgotten guy a guy was an animal yeah he was the olden days the olden days there were some fucking crazy fights when you go back then and look at those olden days yeah I remember we were talking about Eve Edwards Eve Edwards He was on the podcast last week Oh and we were He was underground fighting And I remember it was a tank Ebert was there I remember that they In the British Okay so this is what happened The Atlantic Commission is there The police is there to check So John Lober goes into the cage With another guy with their jeans on And they start wrestling So the Atlantic Commission The police sees that And they think that is what's going to happen tonight They leave They lock the doors DJ comes on, he says, okay, they're gone.

[1094] We can fight, ladies and gentlemen.

[1095] Like, people from porn industry start throwing porn DVDs in the audience.

[1096] This was the wildest place, right?

[1097] So, Eve's fighting, and he's mounting this guy, and he sits next to the cage.

[1098] And I'm standing, I mean, I'm a food away from him, because I'm standing next to the cage, and the cage is raised.

[1099] And he's raining down straight, straight, straight, straight, straight, straight, and they go, Yves.

[1100] And he stops bouncing, and he looks at me, I say, Hook straights, dude, and he goes, hook straight out.

[1101] He knocked them out immediately.

[1102] Not only straight, he immediately listened, hook straight, knocked the guy out.

[1103] The old days.

[1104] Well, good days, though.

[1105] Yeah, man. Well, it's amazing to be a part of something that developed like that, because there's no other sport where you go back to 1993 and then look at it in 2018, and it's almost unrecognizable.

[1106] You know?

[1107] I mean, martial arts, mixed martial arts in particular, I mean, if you look at what martial arts were, It was a lot of great tieboxers back then, of course.

[1108] It was a lot of great kickboxers.

[1109] But the difference between the mixed martial arts from 93 to 2018, it's a totally different world.

[1110] That's a completely different world.

[1111] In the beginning, if you knew it all, you're going to win, you know.

[1112] But there wasn't anybody who knew it all back then.

[1113] Not a lot.

[1114] Yeah.

[1115] There was a few guys that had, you know, a good base of knowledge in some of the other sports, but mostly they were specialists.

[1116] They were either wrestler or karate guy.

[1117] One glove.

[1118] Yeah.

[1119] Art Jimerson.

[1120] Arch Emerson.

[1121] I remember Kent telling me about the event, they were in the back, and they thought that it was still going to be a work, you know, a lot of people.

[1122] And then the first fight went on, and it was Gordo against the sumo guy.

[1123] Oh, and he kicked his teeth into the crowd.

[1124] He said, boss, it got really great backstage.

[1125] So guys thought it was fake?

[1126] They thought at any moment still somebody could come in and say, hey, okay, you're going to have to lose, you're going to have to win.

[1127] And at that moment, that happened, everybody was like, oh, crap that.

[1128] I don't know.

[1129] I think there was...

[1130] Just a couple guys who didn't know.

[1131] Like that ninja guy that got beat up by Pat Smith.

[1132] Remember that guy?

[1133] He was like a ninjitsu guy.

[1134] Oh, yeah, but the pressure point guy.

[1135] Well, he did all this crazy shit.

[1136] Like in his, like, you know, they had the preparation reels.

[1137] They showed him.

[1138] They're preparing.

[1139] He's like, ah, pah, throwing guys out, hitting him with all this crazy shit.

[1140] And then he got in there with Pat Smith.

[1141] Yeah, he was a fucking badass kickboxer.

[1142] And Pat smashed him and they got on top of him.

[1143] Oh, five, six elbows his face.

[1144] That's where the blood comes back up, right?

[1145] Oh, it was horrible.

[1146] It was horrible.

[1147] And it was back in the day when they didn't just stop the fight.

[1148] Yeah, but that's the reason I didn't want to fight in the UFC in the first one.

[1149] And can't ask me, but I said, we'll never do that.

[1150] He said, why?

[1151] I said, I need a referee.

[1152] He says, everybody can, the guys who say, oh, I brought a die indication.

[1153] Okay, good luck with that.

[1154] Not me, dude.

[1155] I have a family.

[1156] I like my life very much.

[1157] I don't like to die.

[1158] You know, so I said, as soon as there's a referee who can actually step in, I would like to do it.

[1159] There was a referee that was there when you tapped to stop it.

[1160] But you had to tap.

[1161] But if you got knocked out, they just keep beating you up.

[1162] You know, and what John said, because when John drew the line was, I believe it was with Tank Abbott, Tank Abbott got beat up really bad.

[1163] He looked at the corner to throw the towel.

[1164] They turned his back to him.

[1165] Later on, when he went to them, they said, well, if we would have stopped it, tank was going to beat us up.

[1166] That's what he told us.

[1167] So that's why we didn't throw a towel.

[1168] And that's the moment he said, okay, I'm going to have to step in here because otherwise, someone's going to die.

[1169] Yeah, it could have easily happened in those early ones.

[1170] You know, the early UFCs?

[1171] The kick, the first gig from Girardotou.

[1172] Mm -hmm.

[1173] Well, how about Orlando Veet?

[1174] Oh, the elbows.

[1175] Well, not just that.

[1176] Well, oh, that's right.

[1177] Rembe, do you remember, Pardul on him?

[1178] Yeah, Remko took him down, got him in a scarf hole, and just elbowed him completely unconscious.

[1179] Boom, boom, boom, just kept hitting him while he was out.

[1180] But Orlando, like, was one of the first real, legit strikers.

[1181] Oh.

[1182] Like, I mean, fucking nasty moitai, powerful guy.

[1183] And not a big guy either, like 180 pounds.

[1184] It was crazy.

[1185] He had some wars.

[1186] I forgot there.

[1187] Hippolyte and Orlando Wheat.

[1188] I think they fought a whole bunch of times.

[1189] Moitai, with elbows.

[1190] If those guys were fighting in Holland and the Yapa, oh, look, I got good bombs now.

[1191] We were there, man. That was flying elbows.

[1192] I mean, from the clinchie, we'd jump up and then rain down elbows to the collar bones, to the top.

[1193] I mean, yeah, complete animal.

[1194] Hippolyte, too.

[1195] Because I went back and forth.

[1196] He would win, then wheat would win, and he would win constantly back and forth.

[1197] So that's why it was so interesting for us.

[1198] Yeah, if you're just getting into Muay Thai now and you're just hearing about it, the fucking day we live in today where you could just go on YouTube and find hours and out.

[1199] You could feel the rest of your life just watching amazing fights.

[1200] Really?

[1201] Yeah, you can't.

[1202] Fuck yeah.

[1203] Just find out about Giorgio Petrosian.

[1204] Just Google Giorgio Petrosian.

[1205] Who the fuck is that?

[1206] Who the fuck is that?

[1207] Who the fuck is that?

[1208] You go watch.

[1209] Giorgio, the doctor, baby.

[1210] Unreal.

[1211] Italian, there's only one effort from Italian, right?

[1212] Armenian, though.

[1213] Wow, yeah, yeah, you needed that.

[1214] Armenians are fucking crazy, man. That's a wild race of people.

[1215] But, you know, but he, okay, but the Italian side of him made him very calculated.

[1216] Technical.

[1217] Right?

[1218] Because Armenian would you think, okay, I'm going to go in here, I'm going to get you.

[1219] And he was very technical as well.

[1220] Well, it's just his mind.

[1221] I was his record at a time, like 54 and 0 or something, right?

[1222] Something insane.

[1223] Yeah, yeah.

[1224] He got knocked out in glory.

[1225] He fought that African guy.

[1226] Fuck, I'm trying to remember the homeboy.

[1227] He fought.

[1228] Somebody.

[1229] Ilungu?

[1230] Was that who knocked him out?

[1231] I forget who it was.

[1232] But Georgia was so good with angles and technique.

[1233] I mean, his technique was flawless.

[1234] And if you ever watch him drill, you recognize why he was so good.

[1235] I mean, he was so technical and precise in his drilling.

[1236] But you see what he's done?

[1237] doing he's punching right away watch steps to the side see he's moving while he is punching but he lands the punches with two feet on the floor still and then he moves that's that's perfect technique yeah perfect technique yeah he's he's someone to really watch like georgio petrosian who knocked him out see go to his uh it was a big upset it was in new york and it was when glory was promoting him as you know who he was and he just got caught he got caught by a fucking vicious striker Well, it was not a Dutch guy, right?

[1238] I think it was Daniel Elungu.

[1239] Andy Ristie.

[1240] Yeah, Andy Ristee, see, that's the Dutch guy, yeah.

[1241] That's who it was.

[1242] They got him.

[1243] Yeah, Ristey's a beast, too.

[1244] See, you can find that fight.

[1245] See, you find Andy Ristey versus...

[1246] Petrosion.

[1247] Georgia Petrosian.

[1248] Yeah.

[1249] That's who it was.

[1250] That's right.

[1251] Andy Ristey can crack, too.

[1252] He's dangerous.

[1253] Yeah, there it is.

[1254] Right in Madison Square Garden.

[1255] That was a big deal for them, man, to get in Madison Square Garden.

[1256] You know, like, to have that fight.

[1257] They invited Mayweather there, you remember?

[1258] I heard they paid him a bunch of money to be there.

[1259] Just to be there?

[1260] Yeah.

[1261] That's hilarious.

[1262] How much did you have to pay him to be there?

[1263] That's got to be a lot.

[1264] Yeah, and Ristie's, who is a great fighter in his own, but Ristie's a guy who's really good for a couple rounds, and he would fade.

[1265] And he lost, yeah, I forget who he lost, too, but he lost by TKO because he faded.

[1266] He faded in the last round.

[1267] It's the fast -to -witch fibers, you know?

[1268] Once you're explosive, you're really good in the first.

[1269] few rounds and you're going to have to really doges, make sure that you spread out all your powers.

[1270] But if your opponent is pushing it and is forcing you to brawl, yeah, you're going to run out of gas.

[1271] Yeah, I don't remember what it was that caught him.

[1272] I believe it was a punch.

[1273] I got kicking the nuts.

[1274] Yeah, with a little love tap.

[1275] Yeah.

[1276] I remember what happened here.

[1277] there's been so many good fights Glory like I said I'm a giant fan and I think it's one of the most underrated underrated organizations in all of combat sports and they have a great like a library of oh there it is left hand left hand boom caught them wow crazy crazy see George rewind that back for a second it didn't even look like that big of a shot look at this just perfect placement boom Like sort of a hook uppercut.

[1278] Yeah.

[1279] Like you stepped into it, switched to Southpaw.

[1280] Caught him with a left hand.

[1281] Falkaneh.

[1282] Who did, let me pull up Andy Ristie's.

[1283] I think, I don't want to, it wasn't trying to remember who beat him.

[1284] Somebody beat him where he was winning early on and then he faded as the fight went on.

[1285] That's a tricky thing for those super explosive guys, like a Connor McGregor, you know?

[1286] It is hard.

[1287] O'Tah trainer, buddy.

[1288] Yeah.

[1289] That's what I'm saying.

[1290] I'm just throwing it out there.

[1291] Oh, Von Rousmalin beat him, but I think Van Rouselan beat him by decision.

[1292] Oh, Kyo, that's it.

[1293] David Kira.

[1294] Yeah, Kira is an animal.

[1295] But also, Rousselmala is known for his stamina.

[1296] You know, his father was already, William.

[1297] You know, he was fighting when I was fighting.

[1298] And he's always coming forward.

[1299] And William was not the most technical guy, but dude, the guy had heart and stamina, and he would come for you.

[1300] And it's very hard to fight somebody who's constantly pushing you backwards.

[1301] And that's what he was doing as well with him.

[1302] 100 % makes him run out of gas.

[1303] Yeah.

[1304] Von Rousmalin's an animal.

[1305] It's just like there's such an amazing pool of talent in glory.

[1306] It's just an amazing organization to watch.

[1307] There's so much talent.

[1308] And I don't know why it's not catching on because...

[1309] Nobody sees it.

[1310] Yeah, but K -1, you would think, okay, all these people at least are going to watch his rabbit.

[1311] You love it.

[1312] I love it.

[1313] But the average person, go to fucking 7 -Eleven and go, hey, man, what do you think of Robin Von Mooseball?

[1314] What the fuck are you talking about, man?

[1315] You're trying to sell something?

[1316] Yeah, yeah, that's true.

[1317] You go somewhere and say, what do you think about Connor McGregor?

[1318] Oh, he's really good when he fights buses.

[1319] You know, people will say crazy.

[1320] They know, right?

[1321] The UFC is very mainstream.

[1322] Glory right now is still very fringe, unfortunately.

[1323] Yeah, it would have been greater for them, better if the UFC had a channel, a TV channel, like the WWE.

[1324] They were going to do that for a while.

[1325] That will be great because then, you see, Glory will catch on for sure.

[1326] This right.

[1327] I don't know how many people have fight past.

[1328] Do you know that a number?

[1329] I do not know the number.

[1330] I know they're very happy.

[1331] They make a lot of money, but I don't know the number.

[1332] You know, UFC came real close back in the day to buying a channel.

[1333] But now I doubt they would do that because they spent so much money to buy the UFC.

[1334] I don't think they could just go buy.

[1335] You know, you want to buy a TV channel.

[1336] That's hundreds of millions of dollars.

[1337] Channel one is still available.

[1338] I don't know.

[1339] I never see anything on anything.

[1340] I will get channel number one.

[1341] That's the same as a new Baltimore movie I would double one That's what I would do I'm 001 instead of 007 He's the savage guy I'm the first Yeah those are Yeah I'm number one I'm the original What those When you go back to like Those Those channels Like when people were adding channels When was the last time You heard of a new channel Like the last new channel Like the last new channel is like vice Like the vice channel And that was like Wasn't that Maxim?

[1342] Didn't they buy Maxim or some shit?

[1343] It's too, I think.

[1344] They usually just switch.

[1345] They switch the name.

[1346] Like radio stations, they switch formats pretty much.

[1347] Right, like Paramount.

[1348] The Paramount Network used to be Spike TV.

[1349] Now it's Paramount.

[1350] Yeah.

[1351] Well, look, man, I'm just happy there's some combat sports on TV.

[1352] I'm happy that Bellator is still around.

[1353] You know, people would say, like, oh, you know, you're in competition with Bellator.

[1354] I'm like, I'm not in competition.

[1355] I'm not in competition with that.

[1356] I like it.

[1357] I want them to be around.

[1358] I support it.

[1359] I support all of them.

[1360] I wish there was more.

[1361] I wish there was more organizations.

[1362] It's good for everybody.

[1363] Fuck, yeah.

[1364] I want to get better.

[1365] Yep.

[1366] It really should.

[1367] But I really wish there was one big moitai organization.

[1368] That's what I wish.

[1369] I wish.

[1370] Glory was Muay Thai.

[1371] So use elbows and use the real full rules.

[1372] Elbows, knees, clinch, the whole deal.

[1373] Let them do everything.

[1374] Fight moitai style.

[1375] It's the best style for stand -up fighting, you know, and then put it on TV.

[1376] Otherwise have to do one.

[1377] You have glory elbow.

[1378] Right?

[1379] I mean, you have special rules.

[1380] Like they did it in Holland, because Thai boxing day didn't.

[1381] not do with elbows, but in special events like he bullied and wheat, what I was just talking about, they added the elbows.

[1382] Oh, no shit.

[1383] They didn't use elbows in some of the events?

[1384] No, no. They did everything except the elbows.

[1385] You know, that would be one fight on the cart.

[1386] Right.

[1387] They would do that.

[1388] Well, when you see some guys fight, like John Wayne Parr or like, here's a perfect, Nathan Corbett, perfect example, his whole thing was elbows.

[1389] And then he would fight in glory and they'd take the elbows away from him.

[1390] Well, he's, I mean, he's obviously very good at all aspects of.

[1391] fighting, but he's, you know, now he can't use one of his best weapons.

[1392] I was taking the headbutts out in the UFC with Coleman.

[1393] Yeah.

[1394] That was his thing.

[1395] Remember trapping both arms?

[1396] And then just go dong -d -dunk -dunk.

[1397] Yeah, dude, you couldn't stop it.

[1398] Yeah.

[1399] Yeah, when Mark Coleman was in his prime, headbutts were a real weapon.

[1400] Yeah.

[1401] Did you headbut anybody ever?

[1402] No. No, no, no. I'll put my face in their face.

[1403] Do you know if somebody loads up, I'll right away go with my forehead into his face.

[1404] I will keep the distance close the whole time.

[1405] I'll make sure my forehead is in front of your face.

[1406] Right.

[1407] You're not going to, oh, I wait with it.

[1408] If they load up, that's the fun part, right?

[1409] If they do this.

[1410] And then at the last moment, you just lean over.

[1411] So they had bought themselves in the face, top of your head.

[1412] That's awful.

[1413] Yeah.

[1414] It works, though.

[1415] I would think that he will be distracted for a moment.

[1416] Oh, for sure.

[1417] Did you watch UFC Saturday night?

[1418] No, I did not.

[1419] How dare you?

[1420] I was flying all over the place.

[1421] How dare you?

[1422] to go to another show, not a fight show, an award show.

[1423] There's this guy that fought on the undercard, Zabit, Magomed Sharipov.

[1424] Holy shit is this guy.

[1425] And how many times did you rehearse his name?

[1426] Many.

[1427] I fucked it up at the Wands.

[1428] They were saying, just call him Zabit.

[1429] Just Zabit.

[1430] And I'm like, no, no, no, I can get it.

[1431] Yeah, yeah.

[1432] Mowman Sharipov.

[1433] He's fucking phenomenal.

[1434] An animal?

[1435] He's one of Mark Henry's guys down in New Jersey.

[1436] Okay, that's good.

[1437] I like my county.

[1438] From Dagestan.

[1439] Okay, yeah.

[1440] Where there's just something in the water over there.

[1441] They just create animals.

[1442] They train with bears, right?

[1443] But this guy is tall and skinny.

[1444] And he fought Kyle Bokniak.

[1445] And this kid, Kyle Bokniak, like, he was shorter, had a hard time getting in on him.

[1446] And Zabid had more skill in terms of more techniques and more things that he could do.

[1447] But goddamn, Bokniak is a fucking animal.

[1448] is a savage because he was there at every second of this fight trying to win never gave up never quit and then at the end of the fight the very end of the fight in the third and final round the last minute of the fight he's pouring it on and he's got Zabit up against the cage he's screaming at him he's got fucking blood coming out of his mouth he's chasing after him this is the end of the fight was him standing in front oh this is the uh they're showing some highlights oh there's all highlights yeah yeah but Zabit that guy is fucking talented.

[1449] What is his record?

[1450] I think he's undefeated.

[1451] That's good.

[1452] He might have one loss maybe early in his career.

[1453] I feel like he's 15 and 0, though, I think.

[1454] See if you can find his record.

[1455] Does it say?

[1456] I'm showing you that.

[1457] Oh, this is the end.

[1458] So the end of the fight, and I'm telling you, Bokkniak is getting his ass kicked the whole fight.

[1459] Look at this, the end.

[1460] Stand it right in front of him, hands down, fucking teeing off.

[1461] Holloway.

[1462] The whole crowd going crazy.

[1463] And then this is my favorite part.

[1464] It ends, the buzzer goes off, and look, fucking hugs.

[1465] Yeah, I love that.

[1466] And they walk around the ring.

[1467] And I'm telling you, there was not a person in the fucking Barclay Center that was sitting down.

[1468] Everybody stood up and went crazy.

[1469] Me too.

[1470] I was standing up.

[1471] The only time during the whole night, I stood up, and I was clapping.

[1472] You have to.

[1473] Oh.

[1474] You know, if they give it you all, there's nothing cooler than that.

[1475] You know, that's what Holloway, when you make that line, you know, he drew the line.

[1476] Oh, yeah.

[1477] Oh, man. and it became a thing now.

[1478] Yeah, 15 and 1, I was right.

[1479] How's my memory, son?

[1480] You are so good.

[1481] Zabit.

[1482] Try saying that name.

[1483] Look, it, show, pull that.

[1484] Okay, Zabit, Magumet de Shapiro.

[1485] Sharipov.

[1486] Sharipov.

[1487] Magumet Sharipov.

[1488] Magumet Sharipov.

[1489] It's a fucking animal, man. Zabit, Magumajarip.

[1490] Very, very talented.

[1491] And Mark Henry was telling me about this kid a long time ago.

[1492] And he was telling me, he goes, I got a world champion.

[1493] He goes, this guy's going to be a world champion.

[1494] I was like, wow.

[1495] And Mark Henry tells you that?

[1496] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1497] No, that's probably going to happen.

[1498] Yep.

[1499] I mean, he's got, there's a good fight coming up with, he is, who is, Marlon Marys is fighting, who fuck is he fighting.

[1500] I love him.

[1501] Good day.

[1502] Great food work, man. God damn it.

[1503] I'm trying to remember who he's fighting.

[1504] I see his face right in front of me. Frankie, go to the UFC, bantamweight division.

[1505] Frankie Rivera, Jesus Christ That's what he's fighting Now I remember, yeah He was another animal A guy who beat Uriot Faber There is more of course Jimmy Rivera Why I say Frankie Rivera Jimmy is an animal Yeah Oh man he can head I'm confused There's too many ease Too many ease in this world Jimmy Rivera Who beat He beat a bunch of good guys You should have stopped At 1101 Or 15 in 1 Oh I remember Yeah you were ahead And right away You messed up Fucked it up Yeah Yeah, Jimmy Rivera.

[1506] He's an interesting guy, too, because he's one of those Tiger Shulman guys.

[1507] Yeah, I was just going to say, yeah.

[1508] Yeah, when I was a kid, when I was living in New York, there was a bunch of Tiger Shulman karate places, but they were always like karate schools.

[1509] We thought of them as like, you know, like a chain.

[1510] It's like a chain.

[1511] But they developed legit MMA fighters.

[1512] It's like credit to that guy, Tiger Shulman, because he really embraced MMA.

[1513] And they really developed some real top -level talent.

[1514] Well, once you're open -minded and you know that evolution is there, you know, look at Bruce Lee.

[1515] The book, The Tower of Yit Kundo, you'll find toeholds, helukes, inverted helix, knee bars.

[1516] I mean, you name it.

[1517] Everything is in that freaking book.

[1518] It's amazing.

[1519] Yeah, I remember Game of Death.

[1520] Was it a Game of Death or Enter the Dragon?

[1521] The opening with the crucifix kind of thing that he was doing for Bono?

[1522] Crazy, right?

[1523] I was going to have escaped that.

[1524] He could have breached that, you know?

[1525] For sure.

[1526] But it was there.

[1527] But that's like, you know, some pro wrestling moves.

[1528] You know, you see him, you go, hmm, that wouldn't really work.

[1529] Because if he's flexible in his neck.

[1530] Yeah.

[1531] Plus the adrenaline will make you extra flexible.

[1532] Trust me, you're not going to feel the stretch.

[1533] What did you think about that crazy shit with Connor McGregor throwing the dolly at the bus?

[1534] You know, I'm giving Connor a lot of passes, and the only reason I'm giving him a lot of passes is the same as Mike Tyson.

[1535] It's like, you know, you're getting a lot of money.

[1536] You have the wrong people around you.

[1537] Everybody's a yeas seer.

[1538] You know, if somebody says, hey, you know what, we should, we should throw something against the bus.

[1539] The whole gang is going to, yeah, let's do that.

[1540] Sounds great idea.

[1541] You know, I think he just got caught up in the moment, you know, be him.

[1542] Try to be him.

[1543] He can't go anywhere.

[1544] He can't pump gas.

[1545] He can't do it.

[1546] Everybody recognizes he's got a lot of pressure on him.

[1547] I think he just has to figure himself out, and it's going to be okay.

[1548] Deep down inside, he's a good guy.

[1549] And I like him.

[1550] And away with his family and his wife and everything that he does, I hope he never loses that because that made him love him.

[1551] Yeah, but he's looking at it this way.

[1552] Ray Borg was on that bus And he got his eyes cut He got corneal abrasions Because kind of threw that dolly at the bus And I mean who knows what's going to happen To Ray's eyes See if you can find an update on that Ray Borg's condition Because he was the most One who suffered the most serious injury Michael Kiesa got cut On his head But I think he's okay I think those are just cuts And he'll be fine But Ray Borg that you get a corneal abrasion That's really serious But what I was going to say Is imagine if the rolls were reversed Imagine if Connor was on the bus And Ray Borg threw a fucking thing Here, UFC Ray Borg yesterday showed a cut Below his eye It's in his eyeball Oh, Connor McGur attacking a bus He had a number of other MMA stars He and another A number of other MMA stars are seated on So yeah So he's got He's got some serious Ray Borg's only 24 You know I'm What I was afraid of Is that somebody's going to zoom Just like having with Russell Crow We remember when you hit the guy With the telephone in his face they had to settle it for like six or eight million dollars because otherwise it was going to go to court and if it goes to court he's got a felony can never fight in America again.

[1553] That means for Russell Crow could have never done a movie in America again.

[1554] So he had to settle with the guy and he had to give him that money.

[1555] That's a lot of money.

[1556] That guy's probably bawling right now.

[1557] It's probably right now sitting on a beach somewhere and drinking a margarita.

[1558] Go Russell Crowe!

[1559] Well, it depends if he never had money.

[1560] It's probably gone, right?

[1561] We know how to go.

[1562] Taxes.

[1563] You've got to blow my fucking fantasy.

[1564] I had a beautiful fantasy this guy.

[1565] with his feet up, on the beach, Pinacolada, something with an umbrella in it.

[1566] Yeah, and it's all gone now, and now he's cleaning, making shoes shine, and then it's to make his money still in paradise because he couldn't buy a ticket back.

[1567] What I was going to say is, imagine if the roles were reversed.

[1568] Imagine it was Ray Borg through the dolly and it cut Connor McGregor's eyes.

[1569] Oh, listen, I'm not saying that it's good.

[1570] No, no, no. First of all, he didn't do it on purpose, but I understand what you're saying.

[1571] I'm just saying, I'm looking at not Connor McGregor.

[1572] I look at what happened to him the last two years.

[1573] And that's a lot to deal with, you know?

[1574] And I think he has to sort that out.

[1575] And I think the picture this morning with his baby and his wife was there, you could tell on his face that there was something like he was like ashamed.

[1576] Watch the picture, you know.

[1577] I've seen it.

[1578] I've seen it.

[1579] So you can tell.

[1580] He might go to jail.

[1581] It's entirely possible that they might put him in jail.

[1582] Yeah, that would be not good.

[1583] And because if it's a felony, he's going to have a problem getting into America, right?

[1584] Oh, yeah.

[1585] But that's what I mean.

[1586] It's a very dangerous...

[1587] So, I mean, what do they do here?

[1588] For his career.

[1589] If he, he's got to settle.

[1590] So if he settles with Michael Kieser, who already filed a lawsuit against him, or he already filed some sort of a complaint, or charges something.

[1591] So him and Ray Borg for certain is going to do the same thing.

[1592] So those two were cut.

[1593] Everybody else on the bus.

[1594] Every other fighter on the bus could sue for emotional damage.

[1595] Oh, yeah.

[1596] They can.

[1597] Including Rose.

[1598] Thug Rose was going to pull out of the fight.

[1599] She was really considering pulling it out of the fight because she was so shucking up.

[1600] You know, I do like that he, at least because when he talked to day and a day, he didn't apologize, but he apologized for all the people who were on board, right?

[1601] He said, no, for the fighters, I'm so sorry.

[1602] So I'm happy he did that, you know.

[1603] But it's something he can't turn back, and you can make it right.

[1604] Well, you can.

[1605] You can try to make it right, like a band -aid on a wound.

[1606] But, you know, to give him all hell, I would say, give the guy a little space, and then hopefully he'll figure it out.

[1607] and he'll settle it with those guys.

[1608] Some would say that the only way for him to really learn is to face consequences for his actions.

[1609] And then if you just keep giving him space, he's going to just keep pushing them needle and he's going to keep doing more fucked up things like this.

[1610] No, but that will happen now, right?

[1611] He's going to go, he's going to have to pay.

[1612] He's going to have to pay 100 % guarantee.

[1613] He wants to settle.

[1614] He doesn't want to go to court.

[1615] Look, he's got $100 million and he made from that fight.

[1616] Yeah, but does he still?

[1617] And with the taxes and everything off and with everything he's buying and all, you know what I mean?

[1618] Okay, let's say he's got $30 million left.

[1619] Yeah.

[1620] Let's say he's got $30 million.

[1621] million left.

[1622] Taxes, all that of the jazz, what you really get versus what they say you get.

[1623] There's a lot going on there, right?

[1624] Yeah.

[1625] Training expenses, bought a house, bought a couple of Bentleys.

[1626] He's going to give out a few million here.

[1627] This is going to cost him a few million.

[1628] That's what?

[1629] Minimilar, but if you look at Russell Crowe, the whole thing.

[1630] Plus, if they really were going to do this Floyd Mayweather thing, they're not going to be able to do it now.

[1631] Yep.

[1632] I mean, if he gets arrested, or he is arrested, but if he gets convicted and they wind up putting him in jail.

[1633] It's entirely like.

[1634] I mean, he's got charged with assault, mischief, a few other different things.

[1635] Even a felony charges there, right?

[1636] Yeah.

[1637] I mean, it's entirely possible that there could be some real serious consequences for this.

[1638] And if they really were going to do that, but how many people would pay to see that Mayweather fight in the Octagon?

[1639] You know, but it gives a little bit of stupid rules.

[1640] It comes from the Mayweather fight.

[1641] It's like almost Inoki when he fought Ali, right?

[1642] Just before they said, no more kicks above the way.

[1643] No more kicks above the waist, yeah, no knees, no grappling techniques.

[1644] I mean, they shot changing the walls just an hour or two hours before, so.

[1645] So what would you like to see them fight?

[1646] If they fight MMA.

[1647] In the clinch, do it with knees, knees and elbows.

[1648] Connor will kill him.

[1649] I know, but that's what I want to see.

[1650] I want Conner to win.

[1651] I mean, even if there's no grappling, Connor will kill him, just with kicks.

[1652] Just give him kicks.

[1653] He'll take his legs out.

[1654] Just low kicks, even.

[1655] Just low kicks.

[1656] Yeah, he'll take his legs out.

[1657] All he'd have to do is just fight.

[1658] Do you remember when Rick Rufus fought that tie guy, and the tie guy just kept his hands out, this and just kick the shit out of his legs.

[1659] That's all Connor would have to do.

[1660] He wouldn't even have to box them.

[1661] Just keep his hands out like this.

[1662] Wack!

[1663] Wack!

[1664] A couple of those and you see Floyd limping around.

[1665] The next thing you know the head kick's coming.

[1666] Boom.

[1667] Yeah, okay.

[1668] But let's say the head kick is not allowed.

[1669] Let's say they do the rules like Antonio Inoki versus Ali.

[1670] You know?

[1671] We can stop him with leg kicks.

[1672] Just stop him with low kicks.

[1673] I would do low kicks.

[1674] That will be a good one, you know?

[1675] So he's in the next two weeks, every time he goes to the restroom, he's going to go, oh darn.

[1676] It's hurting.

[1677] Two weeks.

[1678] That leg, look at the leg from Aldo when he gets Uriah Faber.

[1679] Is that the craziest leg you've ever seen?

[1680] Well, Uriah was taking pictures when he was going into the hyperbaric chamber to try to heal up the leg, and his leg was giant purple blotch.

[1681] Like, it was twice the size of his other leg.

[1682] Yeah, Google that.

[1683] That people freak out.

[1684] Uriah Faber's leg after Jose Aaldo fight.

[1685] Yeah, who's Aldo going to fight?

[1686] He's fighting someone.

[1687] Oh, Jeremy Stevens.

[1688] Ooh.

[1689] Oyo, yo, yo.

[1690] That's a tough fight Look at his leg Oh my god That is fucking crazy That is fucking First of all Your riah Faber is a goddamn animal On this I could not believe Because it started Early in the fight already And he just kept hanging in there Yeah he wouldn't give up He wouldn't give up I mean it's amazing Amazing that he made it to the end of the round Or the end of the fight Yeah I mean Aldo was just taking that leg out and then I remember I was interviewing Yariah after the fight he could barely stand up he could barely just talk he was in such pain but respect for that guy that guy is tough and shit that is pain at that moment the next day yeah and when Jimmy Rivera when Jimmy Rivera beat Yariah he beat him with that low leg kick he fucked up Yariah's leg a lot of times that happens with guys they get that low leg kick and then the nerves give out and their foot doesn't work right that happens to a bunch of guys they get hit with that low leg kick and then their nerves just stop working right.

[1691] Yeah, I think that's a more dangerous kick almost than a low kick, you know, because you actually can break a bone there with the kick.

[1692] Sure, especially if you hit the thick part of your shin against that little what is it, the fibula, there's the tibia and the fibula.

[1693] Yeah, the fibula is a little tiny thing.

[1694] Yeah, that'll snap.

[1695] That's not designed for kicks.

[1696] No, you can push it.

[1697] We've got a shitty design.

[1698] The human bones are, that's a shit design.

[1699] That's a shit design for a guy who punches as hard as you And it's crazy, yeah.

[1700] You know, I should have, I shouldn't have taken off the glove.

[1701] Definitely shouldn't have, because these gloves are fucking awesome, man. These gloves are good.

[1702] I mean, the only thing about these gloves is they may be too good.

[1703] Like, there's a lot of padding there.

[1704] That's very thick.

[1705] Like, especially with a knuckles car, like right here, that is thick as shit.

[1706] That's like a solid inch plus of padding, maybe even more.

[1707] Yeah.

[1708] I mean, I like it.

[1709] It's a very even cushion, right?

[1710] Yeah.

[1711] You don't see that a lot.

[1712] Sometimes you push straight through, but this is really...

[1713] Well, certainly protect your hands and even protect your hands better than the UFC gloves.

[1714] I think pride gloves are the best for MMA.

[1715] They were big, though, but it was cool.

[1716] Yeah, they curved, so the hands weren't open, even with the thumb.

[1717] Yeah, and it didn't stop the grappling.

[1718] If you're a smart guy and you're creative, have you ever thought about redesigning boxing or MMA gloves?

[1719] No. Making something where people don't poke each other, you just think...

[1720] Yeah, no. I think people just simply not...

[1721] Why would you have your hands open?

[1722] I mean, you should, as a fighter, if it's your profession, you should be able not to poke somebody's eye.

[1723] Come on now.

[1724] What do you think about this proposition?

[1725] Because a lot of people have been talking about this, me included, every time you do a foul, whether it's an eye poke or a low kick to the nuts, you get a point taken away.

[1726] Whether you meant to do it or not.

[1727] You grab the fence, point taken away.

[1728] So this way there's no warnings, and you never do it because you're always worried.

[1729] Well, you're going to get paralyzed a lot in the beginning.

[1730] But once you realize that everybody's going to get paralyzed, you'll stop.

[1731] So it is, you know.

[1732] It's like giving a penalized.

[1733] It's a life or a death penalty.

[1734] That will stop that disease for 90 % as well.

[1735] Just get rid of them.

[1736] Yeah.

[1737] I think they should stop with the cage.

[1738] I think the cage is a bad environment.

[1739] I think it's too easy for guys to trap people up against the cage.

[1740] It's hard for people to see.

[1741] It's hard for the audience to see.

[1742] I don't think there's a benefit in the cage.

[1743] I think the cage was fun in the beginning because it was crazy.

[1744] Like, you can't leave.

[1745] You're trapped in the cage.

[1746] But no one wants to leave.

[1747] They want to fight, right?

[1748] So if they're going to fight, that's not the best environment for fighting.

[1749] The best environment for fighting is like an open area.

[1750] The area that, you know, Karate Combat has, that's a nice area because...

[1751] See everything.

[1752] Plus, you know, with the walls, I like the walls, because you can't lean against them.

[1753] You do that, you're on your back.

[1754] You're grounded opponent.

[1755] You know, because they pull you back to the ground.

[1756] Because Karate Combat, when you're against the wall, you're not grounded.

[1757] But if they pull you once you're on your back on the ground, you are and you can get hit.

[1758] Yeah, so you can't get.

[1759] away.

[1760] You can't run away.

[1761] It's not like you can run out into the audience.

[1762] You would have to go up that ramp.

[1763] But you're contained in the area, but you're not trapped up against a wall like you are with the UFC, with the cage.

[1764] They were going to do a bit all the way in the beginning, right?

[1765] When they were talking about it with Emilius.

[1766] Wait a minute.

[1767] Didn't Frank Shamrock?

[1768] Didn't Frank Shamrock do that?

[1769] Frank Shamrock had something that he did.

[1770] Did he call it shootbox?

[1771] Frank Shamrock shootbox?

[1772] I feel like Frank Shamrock did something like this, where he had, and then Bob Marowitz came back and did something called Yamah pit fighting.

[1773] Yeah, I remember that.

[1774] That was kind of similar to that, too.

[1775] That was something like that, yeah.

[1776] Yeah.

[1777] But that was in the cage, too, wasn't it?

[1778] Our David came to us to promote arm wrestling where you could hit your opponent.

[1779] Oh, that's right.

[1780] That's right.

[1781] Your arms were tied up and dudes were wailing each other.

[1782] Oh, my God, that was the most ridiculous shit ever.

[1783] I forgot about that one I forgot about that one Guys had their arms taped up Taped together And then they were punched each other in the head What the fuck was that called Extreme arm wrestling or something?

[1784] I have no clue I mean any name is good for that That shit was so stupid Didn't a couple of MMA fighters Get involved in that too?

[1785] I'm pretty sure You know if they were not On the list somewhere What is this?

[1786] What is it called?

[1787] Oh here we go Yeah they tape each other their arm up yeah x arm extreme so they tape their arms together he's got a glove too oh my god the soon as you let go of that thing that you're holding in order you know then you don't have that balance you have to if you're right -handed you're going to have to put your oh they kick too oh my god this is so stupid this is so why don't they simply push him down and win the fight like that right this is so fucking stupid this isn't this is a fight with the bartender tied up like that.

[1788] That the bartenders behind the bar, your arm is somehow tied, and you're going to have to fight.

[1789] This is so stupid.

[1790] I want to see some of this.

[1791] X arm.

[1792] That's what it was called.

[1793] A new sport is born.

[1794] Yeah, not really.

[1795] Yeah, I'm getting crazy.

[1796] I'm throwing kicks.

[1797] Incredible athletes.

[1798] Ready, set.

[1799] Go, I'm going to punch you in your fucking head.

[1800] Now, how do you win?

[1801] Do you win by...

[1802] Look at an arm bar.

[1803] Oh, my God.

[1804] You can do an arm bar on the table?

[1805] That shit's ridiculous.

[1806] That is so ridiculous.

[1807] Wait a minute.

[1808] He's onto something.

[1809] This is so stupid.

[1810] The kicks.

[1811] Oh, my God.

[1812] Oh, they stopped it.

[1813] But meanwhile, they're tied up.

[1814] Pin his arm.

[1815] You pin his arm, you win?

[1816] Wait a minute.

[1817] Or knock him out.

[1818] This is so fucking stupid.

[1819] So why don't they just pin him right away so you don't get hit?

[1820] Look at this.

[1821] Doom, doomed.

[1822] Should you imagine if you put...

[1823] Dad, the fucking X -Arms.

[1824] Is that guy in the audience?

[1825] Yeah.

[1826] I gave up...

[1827] I used to be a fan of the UFC, but they fucked me over.

[1828] They fucked me over.

[1829] I don't like it anymore.

[1830] I'm a ball about X -arm.

[1831] I thought those are safety glasses.

[1832] The ref has, like...

[1833] It should, just in case blood comes spraying into his eyes.

[1834] Spit and shit.

[1835] That's a camera?

[1836] It's a camera.

[1837] It's a ref camera.

[1838] Oh, my God.

[1839] It's so dumb.

[1840] That is so...

[1841] I hope that is it.

[1842] So fucking dumb.

[1843] Oh, my God.

[1844] I forgot about this.

[1845] I'm so glad you brought this.

[1846] I'm so glad you brought this out.

[1847] Oh, that guy got chaos.

[1848] He's out.

[1849] And he's hanging on to him.

[1850] Hey, I got him.

[1851] He's out cold.

[1852] Untie me from this dead man. I did it to a training partner one time.

[1853] That's so fucking stupid.

[1854] What'd you do?

[1855] To a training partner, I was very angry.

[1856] More angry than you were at the desk?

[1857] You know what?

[1858] He had a fight in two weeks and he said this weekend my friend's going to go to Vegas for a bachelor party.

[1859] You think I should go.

[1860] And I go, you're asking me for advice.

[1861] Yeah, I said, no, don't go.

[1862] It's going to go wrong.

[1863] You do drugs, you go drunk, you do everything.

[1864] Of course it went wrong.

[1865] He did go.

[1866] So now I'm angry because he had a fight going on.

[1867] And I said, he wanted to train on.

[1868] He was back on Saturday on Sunday.

[1869] He wanted to train.

[1870] I said, no, let's do Monday.

[1871] Give you an extra day rest.

[1872] But now I came in and this time I, you know, normally I never want to knock somebody out, but I want to knock him out just now.

[1873] Because you couldn't fight anyway already with a young, angry boss.

[1874] Angry boss.

[1875] No, you didn't listen.

[1876] And now you got to fight and you're constantly complaining about you're losing.

[1877] You know, I mean, it has a reason And this was one of the reason This was the moment for him to get a lesson So I think first punch I threw But an incredible heart And I remember I hit him and I almost didn't feel the impact So you know that I hit him with a loose neck So to say, went straight through And I remember him falling over the rope And I grab my stuff And I walked to my car, my car It was in the garage, we're in the garage And the ring was in there It was the front of mine place And I walked over to my car And while I walked over, I looked back and he was still hanging.

[1878] There was no movement whatsoever.

[1879] And I got started to get worried because now he was out already for like two minutes, no movement whatsoever.

[1880] So I get in my car, and then I drive by, and he still does no move.

[1881] Is somebody taking care of him?

[1882] I got out of the car because I wanted to take care of him.

[1883] And as soon as I started walking, he started twitching.

[1884] So I got in my car and I drove off.

[1885] Oh, Jesus.

[1886] That's ridiculous.

[1887] Yeah.

[1888] Yeah, but I was off for a long time.

[1889] Did he fight?

[1890] He fought and he lost.

[1891] Well, of course he lost.

[1892] You knocked him out two weeks ago.

[1893] No, no, no. He was losing already, and it was every time it was somebody else's thing and say, maybe you shop, stop smoking weed for a while.

[1894] Maybe that's going to help.

[1895] What about that?

[1896] Maybe that would help.

[1897] So if you wake up in the morning and you smoke a bong and you do that all day long and you keep doing it, I mean, maybe that's the reason, right?

[1898] You're not getting really to your potential.

[1899] It could be a factor.

[1900] Unless you Nick Diaz.

[1901] Yeah.

[1902] Doesn't seem to affect him.

[1903] There's always exemptions.

[1904] Yeah, he's a really good.

[1905] exemption.

[1906] I mean, when people think about pot -eds, you think about someone who's lazy and you think about people that have bad endurance.

[1907] You would think you'd be lazy.

[1908] But Nick Diaz has phenomenal endurance.

[1909] I mean, he does triathlons.

[1910] Do you know he swam from Alcatraz five times?

[1911] I said two times.

[1912] And he corrected me. He goes, no, bro, five times.

[1913] I'm like, five fucking times in the shark infested waters of San Francisco.

[1914] But there were also, they said it was a lot of, you know, it was not as bad as what they let the prisoners know, of course.

[1915] It was all a...

[1916] Well, it's just because athletes are just so much better now.

[1917] But if you didn't swim, it's not like they'll let them prepare in prison.

[1918] Like, do laps in the pool.

[1919] Like, those guys, they didn't have any endurance.

[1920] No, they didn't have a little pool either, right?

[1921] I'm thinking, how can you practice swimming?

[1922] You can't.

[1923] But it's a hard one.

[1924] That's a hard one.

[1925] I'm sure some of them made it.

[1926] There's a couple guys did attempt to swim back from Alcatraz.

[1927] And one guy, they found his clothes on the beach and they never found him.

[1928] And they assumed that he got eaten by a shark or some shit and drowned and they just found his clothes.

[1929] But it's entirely possible the guy swam all the way.

[1930] If he was a fucking real animal could swam all the way, took his clothes off and went, fuck you, I'm out of here.

[1931] Back then, they didn't have no database.

[1932] He's laughing right now.

[1933] He's listening to this podcast.

[1934] He goes, we're good.

[1935] That was me. Col him.

[1936] You got a call in number?

[1937] I got three.

[1938] Yeah, I mean, I think nobody, I don't think they know of anybody who definitely successfully made it.

[1939] But today, people do it all the time.

[1940] It's like all those triathlete endurance assholes, those serious animals, those guys who do like triathlons, ultra -marathons, those motherfuckers, they have ridiculous cardio.

[1941] Oh, but there's a woman also, like a 90 -year -old woman who did it.

[1942] Really?

[1943] I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1944] 90 -year -old.

[1945] Yeah, yeah, she's also from Alcatraz.

[1946] Jesus Christ.

[1947] Did you go to Alcatast?

[1948] You did, right?

[1949] Yeah, when I was a kid.

[1950] It was cool, right?

[1951] Yeah, it's pretty cool.

[1952] You know, to go to Al Capone, Sal and to see all that stuff?

[1953] It's weird.

[1954] The movie, The Rock.

[1955] Remember that?

[1956] That's right.

[1957] That was a badass movie.

[1958] Clint Eastwood, right?

[1959] No, no, no. What's his name?

[1960] He's an escape from Alcatraz.

[1961] He plays Frank Morris.

[1962] Which one is the Rock?

[1963] The Rock.

[1964] Nick Cage?

[1965] Nicholas Cage.

[1966] Yeah, that's it.

[1967] That's a different.

[1968] That's right.

[1969] Escape from Alcatraz.

[1970] Anthony Hopkins.

[1971] Yeah.

[1972] Those guys, they escape.

[1973] No, no, no. What's his name?

[1974] They played James Bond.

[1975] James Bond.

[1976] George, Sean Connery.

[1977] Sean Connery.

[1978] Sean Connery.

[1979] He's also such a badass guy.

[1980] Yeah, I always love Sean Connery.

[1981] My favorite interview is him with Barbara Walters.

[1982] We was talking about smacking women.

[1983] Oh, I was just going to say that.

[1984] They need a smack.

[1985] Sometimes they don't listen.

[1986] You let them have the last word, and that's not enough.

[1987] And they need more and more.

[1988] And you just have to just take your hand and smack them.

[1989] Yeah, there it is.

[1990] Escape from Alcatraz.

[1991] Clint, motherfucking Eastwood.

[1992] That's an escape, yeah.

[1993] Yeah.

[1994] So I don't think anybody, like, definitely escaped and made it across the ocean.

[1995] I don't think, like, there's one guy that they caught in San Francisco.

[1996] They're still on the FBI's wanted list, but they're assumed drowned.

[1997] They're still on the FBI's most wanted list.

[1998] And what year was it they escaped?

[1999] 62.

[2000] Oh, wow.

[2001] They might be alive.

[2002] They might be still alive.

[2003] Wow.

[2004] Those three guys escaped?

[2005] Yeah.

[2006] Look at those creeps.

[2007] And they never got found.

[2008] I don't know.

[2009] Wow.

[2010] Probably drowned.

[2011] Man, if you hear us, call us.

[2012] I'll tell you what I did That will be a story I made it Made across that ocean Google the 90 -year -old lady Who made it That's insane You know what If they would still be alive They should write a book Right And then just before they died They say here This is how I escaped Alcatraz The money proceeds Goes to the family Wherever you live Yeah Yeah Or just write a novel And go Whank oink This is all fiction Yeah yeah Like OJ Simpson If I did it Did you see the interview where he kind of like...

[2013] It says that he did?

[2014] I saw that.

[2015] I didn't see it.

[2016] Oh, yeah, it's freaky.

[2017] You know, you hear him saying.

[2018] Because sometimes he forgets he doesn't talk in the third person.

[2019] Sometimes he talks.

[2020] And then he took this, suddenly he made this really weird karate stands like he knew karate.

[2021] And then it's quiet.

[2022] He says, oh, of course, you know, that will be in my mind.

[2023] You know, he would correct himself every time.

[2024] Yeah.

[2025] He took a karate pose.

[2026] It's weird that he's out there roaming around.

[2027] now.

[2028] Yeah.

[2029] Ladies?

[2030] He's available.

[2031] Oh, I'm sure.

[2032] There's a lot of crazy bitches out there.

[2033] Apparently that Parkland shooter, that kid that killed all those kids in Florida, he just gets fan mail all day long, they say.

[2034] Ghosts want to marry him.

[2035] Girls want to marry him.

[2036] Yeah.

[2037] That was the thing with Richard Ramirez, the night stalker.

[2038] He just got tons of marriage requests.

[2039] There's a lot of girls who want to marry psychos.

[2040] Yeah.

[2041] It's so strange.

[2042] It's, yeah, something really bad happened to them when we're young, I guess you know i mean otherwise how do you get there how do you get to a spot like that i don't know yeah some people man it's weird we need bigger penalties for things that's what we need well i like that what you said you know no more warning boom do it one time i think actually it's a good at it for fights yeah yeah for fights i think i pokes well here's the thing even if you didn't mean to do it the other guy got poked in the eye and that's a significant impact and it could affect their vision and we know many fights that have changed changed the course of the fight like travis Brown, Matt Mitrione.

[2043] Mitrione's winning the fight.

[2044] He gets eye -poked by Travis Brown.

[2045] Then he winds up getting beaten up and stopped.

[2046] It was a big moment in the fight, and it came from an eye -poke.

[2047] Those kind of situations happen.

[2048] And even if they're by accident, it doesn't matter.

[2049] They happen.

[2050] And when they happen, that's a giant impact.

[2051] And that giant impact should be penalized.

[2052] Yep.

[2053] Because that guy can't see now.

[2054] It's like looking like this.

[2055] I got the stabbed in my end in pro wrestling.

[2056] And you literally, what they say, you see three people.

[2057] Yeah.

[2058] I couldn't focus.

[2059] The referee goes fight.

[2060] I can't see anything.

[2061] Is this in Japan?

[2062] Yeah, it was pro wrestling.

[2063] He said, fight, fight.

[2064] I don't care, I'll fight, but.

[2065] They do some hard pro wrestling in Japan sometimes, right?

[2066] It's strong style, they call it.

[2067] So that's why it's so good for the mixed martial artist because they use real submission moves.

[2068] If you go here to the WWE, you know, you see moves and they tap on things that are not even moves sometimes.

[2069] Right.

[2070] So, you know, it's easier.

[2071] A bunch of WWE guys got mad at me because I was analyzing the figure four toehold.

[2072] And I was saying the other guy is actually.

[2073] in a better position.

[2074] The guy who's getting the toe hold has a heel hook right here.

[2075] Just reach over, grab a hold of that shit.

[2076] You got it.

[2077] People were mad at me. WWE guys were so mad.

[2078] For telling the truth.

[2079] They were saying that I'm somehow another diminishing their thing.

[2080] You guys just did WrestleMania last night.

[2081] It was the biggest fucking thing on TV.

[2082] It's not diminishing it.

[2083] But you can't get mad if someone's pointing out reality.

[2084] It is reality, you know what, if they say, I'm, I think they're amazing guys.

[2085] Yeah, they're athletes.

[2086] I mean, I was almost about to sign for them a long time ago, but I thought I was going to get away with like 20, 30 shows.

[2087] No, no, no. The minute was 220 shows a year?

[2088] Yeah, that's without the traveling.

[2089] So I go, you know, and these guys take bumps every single night.

[2090] Can you imagine?

[2091] And that's 220 shows, you know.

[2092] If you look at the Stone Cold Steve Austin, all these guys, the Rock, Dwayne Jones, all these guys, they did way.

[2093] more a year.

[2094] They did two shows in one night, they say.

[2095] They were going from town to town.

[2096] That's a crazy life.

[2097] Stone called Steve Austin eating raw potatoes because had no more money.

[2098] Raw potatoes eating in the car, driving from event to event.

[2099] Because he had no money?

[2100] He had no money at that time.

[2101] He was building himself up.

[2102] He was eating raw potatoes?

[2103] He was raw potatoes, yeah.

[2104] What does a raw potato taste like?

[2105] I don't know.

[2106] It's like a raw potato, I guess.

[2107] Not good.

[2108] A little bitter.

[2109] Remember when Ken Shamrock was the world's most dangerous man?

[2110] Remember he did it?

[2111] Just jacked.

[2112] He was so jacked back then.

[2113] It was ridiculous.

[2114] Remember how big he got?

[2115] Holy shit, he got big.

[2116] Yeah.

[2117] He was like 260 pounds.

[2118] Oh, it was fucking huge.

[2119] It's an unbelievably tough way to make a living.

[2120] Unbelievable tough.

[2121] Yeah.

[2122] What is this?

[2123] The star just here to retire yesterday.

[2124] She got kicked in the back at a house show and snapped her neck.

[2125] What's a house show?

[2126] Like a non -televised show.

[2127] Wow.

[2128] One of the 220 shows they have to do.

[2129] like not in L .A., like whenever, Kansas, on a Wednesday night.

[2130] Whoa.

[2131] Very injury prone, man, because it's constantly, constantly, it's really amazing.

[2132] All the falls, all these things are real.

[2133] So people can say whatever they want.

[2134] Yeah, and people say, oh, pro -westing is fake.

[2135] Yeah, so is acting.

[2136] Right, let's be honest there.

[2137] Well, you got one of your worst injuries from stunts.

[2138] That's it.

[2139] Yeah, the Suns of Anarchy, right?

[2140] No, lights out, the show on FX.

[2141] You remember?

[2142] That was Holt McAllenny.

[2143] If you, by the way, you want to talk to him, he's the lead guy in Mind Hunter in that TV show.

[2144] What is Mind Hunter?

[2145] Mind Hunter.

[2146] You didn't see your Netflix?

[2147] Oh, that's that show about serial killers, right?

[2148] Oh, no kidding.

[2149] Yeah.

[2150] Yeah, I mean, look, man, what they have to do is one of the hardest jobs in all show business.

[2151] 220 shows a year getting slammed and knocked around like that.

[2152] It's one of the hardest jobs in show business.

[2153] But you're a tough guy.

[2154] Don't be such a pussy if someone says that a figure four leglock doesn't work.

[2155] Don't talk about that's the skin is very thin just very thin I don't understand Instead of thinking of constructive criticism Yeah I got nothing but respect for them Yeah but relax Should be able to take jokes You can't tell jokes anymore I was on inside MMA right I'm telling at the rep up And I didn't even know this was the wrap up I don't even remember I said this So I'm busy and I said yeah right hook Right Hook knockout we see highlights And I tell Kenny Rice I said man And right hook knockout I said I love to see it that is so underused, the right hook.

[2156] I said, you should really practice that.

[2157] So Kenny says to me, how do you practice that?

[2158] I said, well, if you're married, you said, hey, honey, can you come over here for a second?

[2159] And right away, I'm looking in the camera, and I say, I'm kidding, of course, right?

[2160] And I'm literally saying it because I know there's always people, but I started laughing.

[2161] It's a joke.

[2162] I don't even remember me saying this.

[2163] On my Facebook, I had this, you know, feminist organization attacking me that I couldn't say that I would hit my wife.

[2164] And I go, I didn't say, I went through the whole show, and I go, where did I say it?

[2165] And it was literally the last 20 seconds where I said it.

[2166] And two seconds later, I said, I'm just kidding.

[2167] It's a joke.

[2168] You could never do that.

[2169] You know, but people are so thin skin.

[2170] You can't do anything anymore.

[2171] These were the same people when they asked me, what did I enjoy the most of women fighting?

[2172] I thought I'd make a joke.

[2173] I said, the weigh -ins, right?

[2174] I thought it was funny to say because they're in the bikinis.

[2175] Right.

[2176] Yep.

[2177] Same feminist organization.

[2178] And we're in this business that you can do.

[2179] And I told him, I said, if you're in the MMA business, I say, get out.

[2180] Because they all think like me. They just don't say it.

[2181] On the nice end.

[2182] Right?

[2183] On the nice end, they think like you.

[2184] Yeah, yeah.

[2185] On the dark end.

[2186] Oh, they go like, you know what I would do at this moment with the girl like that.

[2187] That's how bad it is.

[2188] Do you ever see Derek Lewis's Instagram?

[2189] Oh.

[2190] Derek Lewis has the most fucking hilarious Instagram.

[2191] He's really pushing it, though, right?

[2192] He's pushing it.

[2193] He pushes it as far as pushing it.

[2194] You see the shit that he did with Rhonda Rousey?

[2195] After he knocked out Travis Brown.

[2196] After he knocked out Travis Brown.

[2197] I mean, he knocked out her boyfriend.

[2198] And he's got, or now her husband.

[2199] And he's got all these videos of him like...

[2200] Oh, Mr. Teed, like in Rocky?

[2201] He's doing that?

[2202] His face and he's, you know, they put his face on someone else's body and Rhonda's face on someone else's body.

[2203] It's like he's fucking crazy.

[2204] Whoa.

[2205] He's crazy.

[2206] He's funny, though.

[2207] He's hilarious.

[2208] He's hilarious.

[2209] I like it.

[2210] His Instagram page is fucking hilarious.

[2211] But I'm always like, what?

[2212] How long is it going to take?

[2213] for someone to find that page and just go over his archives and go, what in the fuck?

[2214] Like, you can't do this, man?

[2215] No, it is, yeah.

[2216] Because it's obviously he's joking around.

[2217] He's a very funny guy before you saw it after.

[2218] Oh, Derek is fucking funny, man. Who is he fighting next?

[2219] I don't know, but everything is good.

[2220] He's always posting ridiculous videos or people do stupid shit.

[2221] Like, if you just go to his, his, it's Almost, oh, is he have a, what's going on with his hand?

[2222] What does it get out on there?

[2223] Damn, that shit hurts.

[2224] I have a fourth metacarpal fracture.

[2225] Oh, February 21st.

[2226] All right, well, he ain't fighting anybody anytime soon.

[2227] Oh, they're digging in there.

[2228] What are they doing?

[2229] Oh, they're extracting.

[2230] Yeah, they're pulling out the pus.

[2231] Ugh.

[2232] Get in there, son.

[2233] Pull that pus out.

[2234] Yeah.

[2235] Yeah, they did it one time.

[2236] To me one time.

[2237] I was in Japan, and Dan Henderson stands next to me, was at the table eating, and he says, where's the heat coming from?

[2238] I go, what do you mean?

[2239] And he feels with his arm, and my arm was infected, and it was streaming out heat.

[2240] And he goes, dude, you've got a staph infection, but this is really bad.

[2241] You got to, I'll do it when I'm home.

[2242] He says, no, no, no, you got to go to the hospital right now.

[2243] This is very bad.

[2244] I went to the hospital in Japan.

[2245] They put it in a syringe, like this big, giant syringe.

[2246] They start pulling out stuff.

[2247] It was like the green goblet, that liquid, that green liquid, completely clear.

[2248] Not one little sliver of slime or whatever in it, completely clear.

[2249] Like the doctor was pulling it out and he goes, oh, he'll start talking to all the other doctors, and they came running over.

[2250] And they said, they pulled it out.

[2251] It was a whole thick syringe.

[2252] He filled up with green clear stuff.

[2253] Whoa.

[2254] Weird, right?

[2255] Very weird.

[2256] Would they give you some serious antibiotics?

[2257] Serious antibiotics, yeah, yeah.

[2258] Do you have to stay in Japan?

[2259] With Damon Perry, you remember when I...

[2260] Sure.

[2261] We did that show, and I was laying on the bar.

[2262] I was, I was acting like I was drunk, and everybody said, dude, that was unbelievable.

[2263] That was how sick I was.

[2264] So I acted like I was drunk, and I was sweating, but I was from the real sickness.

[2265] I was literally between takes, laying on the...

[2266] On the desk.

[2267] Wow.

[2268] And we go, and I go, oh, ra, ro, right, and I did the take, and then I would fall back again.

[2269] Wow.

[2270] Yeah, I was destroyed.

[2271] Did you fly home with that?

[2272] Yeah, but it was two days later.

[2273] I started feeling much better than the next day.

[2274] Did they give me oral antibiotics or IV?

[2275] Oral and IV.

[2276] In the hospital?

[2277] Yeah.

[2278] Staff infection scares a shit out of me, man. You can lose something.

[2279] You remember the staff from Kevin, Rettledon?

[2280] He had holes.

[2281] A hole in his arm area.

[2282] Oh, yeah, here underneath.

[2283] Yeah.

[2284] Like a snuff box, you know?

[2285] Like the tobacco thing, you could hide it in there.

[2286] You could literally push it in there.

[2287] You could see his muscles.

[2288] Yeah.

[2289] And all his tendons and everything in there.

[2290] It was fucking crazy.

[2291] Kevin Redelman's staff.

[2292] Yeah, he's got one of the most famous staff infections ever.

[2293] It's horrible.

[2294] Animal, this guy.

[2295] My friend Ari and I, my Ari, I was taking jiu -jitsu for a while.

[2296] We were playing pool, and I noticed him walking around the pool table.

[2297] He's limping.

[2298] And I go, what's going on with you, man?

[2299] He goes, I think I got a spider bite on my knee.

[2300] Look at that.

[2301] Look at that.

[2302] God, damn, that's crazy.

[2303] That is so crazy.

[2304] That's, like, systemic when it's that bad.

[2305] Yeah.

[2306] When it's that deep in your body.

[2307] So I looked at Ari, I go, What?

[2308] I go, you got a spider bite.

[2309] I go, let me see your knee.

[2310] And he pulls his pants leg up.

[2311] And I go, dude, you have staff infection.

[2312] Listen to me right now.

[2313] You got to go to the hospital immediately.

[2314] And he goes, what?

[2315] It was a big deal.

[2316] I go, no, no, no. This could kill you.

[2317] I go, you have a real bad staff infection.

[2318] It was in like a fucking big whitehead.

[2319] I was like, go to the hospital right now.

[2320] He's like, you serious?

[2321] I unscrewed my cue.

[2322] I go, dude, we're done.

[2323] I go, you got to go to the hospital.

[2324] I'll take you.

[2325] You want to go to the hospital right then and there.

[2326] And they're like, holy shit, buddy.

[2327] They hooked him up with that.

[2328] And he got it again, I think, afterwards.

[2329] Like, sometimes it can relapse when you get it bad.

[2330] When you get it in your system and you don't, like, completely get it out of your system, sometimes it can come back.

[2331] A friend of mine had this blood poisoning.

[2332] Yeah.

[2333] From a low kick, it was all his leg, there was fluids in it.

[2334] And this little, like a pinky thick purple line started going up on his body.

[2335] Like towards the heart?

[2336] Oh, yeah.

[2337] You got to see that leg.

[2338] I mean, they went in there.

[2339] They stapled it close with like 34 of those staples.

[2340] Oh, his whole thigh.

[2341] He's got this scar.

[2342] Crazy scar.

[2343] Yeah.

[2344] From low kicks.

[2345] From low kicks.

[2346] That's nuts.

[2347] Didn't treat it.

[2348] Man. You know, it just kept on working and something went wrong and becomes in a faction.

[2349] Yeah, starts clotted.

[2350] No one has that.

[2351] You see how I did that?

[2352] Clotting.

[2353] I see.

[2354] I didn't deal with your fingers.

[2355] I like that.

[2356] I like that.

[2357] That's fast.

[2358] What do you think, I need to ask you about some certain shit?

[2359] Like, what do you think about the John Jones situation?

[2360] like with John Jones testing positive, but saying it was a tainted supplement.

[2361] What did you think about all that?

[2362] I think, okay, I'll go back all the way back when you could do pretty much anything you wanted, right?

[2363] Right.

[2364] I brought my own bread, own food, everything to Japan.

[2365] If I would go to a hall, I would bring my own water.

[2366] I wouldn't drink the water they had there.

[2367] I heard all the war stories and fighting in foreign countries that they might taint it or do something.

[2368] Make sure.

[2369] Every product that you take as a professional athlete is your responsibility.

[2370] You know, so once that happens, and I thought that tainted supplement wasn't that the same tainted supplement as Joel Romero had?

[2371] I believe it was that same tainted room.

[2372] And they have the same manager?

[2373] So their manager didn't say, hey, wait a minute, Joel Romero, maybe you shouldn't take this because I don't know 100 % here.

[2374] I'm just talking.

[2375] Anyway, even if that's not the case, as a manager you would say, I think from now on, you should buy only products that are on a list and you don't do anything else anymore, just to make sure.

[2376] because people, you know, where the smoke is fine.

[2377] That's what people think.

[2378] It's always like, I've got to fortune.

[2379] I was very happy with Joel Romero when he brought a product.

[2380] I said, that's the first guy who actually does that.

[2381] They took the product, got it off the market because it was in there, and he was clear.

[2382] They said, okay, finally.

[2383] I would have done that.

[2384] Tim Means did the same thing.

[2385] Tim Means tested positive.

[2386] And he found it also?

[2387] They found it on the shelf.

[2388] They did an independent test of it, and they said, yep, it's in this stuff.

[2389] That's a real common thing.

[2390] A lot of baseball players have tested positive for the exact same thing that John.

[2391] tested for apparently it's in a bunch of different supplements but you get it in trace elements or trace amounts you know you're not getting like big amounts and a lot of it comes from they take the same vats in you know china wherever they make that shit and they'll make some steroids and then they'll fucking clean it out but do a shitty job of cleaning out and then they'll make some creatine in there it's like the gluten -free products you know because sometimes they use a machine that you have product with gluten in there and then it's tainted it's like that yeah it definitely can be it definitely can be you know i've heard a bunch of crazy stories one of the the craziest one was they think that cocaine sometimes they cut with creatine and creatine is often infected with this steroid that it's often tainted because you're you know you're getting cheap creatine from china and they use creatine to cut cocaine with i got a good idea don't do cocaine if you're a fighter wait a minute that's just crazy boss you're just crazy that doesn't even make sense don't do cocaine when can he come back when it come back joe i don't know i don't think think they've done his hearing yet oh man what a talent what a waste i you know they did the california hearing but i think the nevada state athletic commission and usada i think that's in april sometime i think it's this i really hope we're going to see him soon i really hope he turns his life right i truly i truly he's the best yeah he's the best i mean the impact that he can have on on on kids and on everything yeah going out as if he trains for four it fights four more years yeah just beat everybody and then go out i think he can still do it too i think he can still come back and maybe, you know, hope, look, it's clear.

[2392] One thing is clear from his test is that whatever he took was a tiny trace amount, and it must have been accidental, must have been.

[2393] This is according to Jeff Novitsky, because if you look at right before that test, he tests negative, he test positive for the tiniest amount, and then he test negative again right afterwards.

[2394] Yeah, you see.

[2395] It's a tiny, tiny amount, so it has to be an accident, and it definitely didn't have any performance enhancing benefit.

[2396] The levels that he took, they're talking about trace amounts.

[2397] But you see, this is where comes in play what he did before, and that's why he's getting penalized now.

[2398] You see, so you're always responsible for your actions.

[2399] That's what's happening now.

[2400] I mean, it cost him his title, too, which is so crazy.

[2401] I know, but you know, if somebody has the chance to do it back, what a comeback that would be.

[2402] I think he can do it.

[2403] I mean, you think about his victory over Daniel Kormier, the way he did it, that left high kick and then puts it out on the ground.

[2404] The way he set it up, the entire fight he was setting it up.

[2405] And I think that when he came back and before the last break, that they said, okay, now you can let it fly.

[2406] I think you set him up enough.

[2407] I love that man, making a pattern and then breaking the pattern.

[2408] I love that style of fighting.

[2409] Yeah, yeah.

[2410] No, man, I mean, he's such a talent.

[2411] I mean, and just, but isn't it funny how some of those guys that are so talented are also so self -destructive?

[2412] It's so common.

[2413] It's because, oh, no, no, but it's not only that.

[2414] It's talented, and because the talented propels them up in the limelight, and suddenly they become somebody.

[2415] And it's like I said with Conner, you got all the yay say, nobody says no to you.

[2416] And if you have that constantly 24 -7 around you, yeah, you start becoming, you think you're God.

[2417] You can start doing things that other people can.

[2418] And you can.

[2419] That's the worst part.

[2420] I mean, you look, I mean, that he didn't go to jail?

[2421] Think about it what he did, right?

[2422] Hitting the woman, and then the drugs out of the car, and the woman was pregnant and she was injured.

[2423] I mean, that's a serious thing.

[2424] A normal person would have been in jail.

[2425] Right.

[2426] So, and with the money situation and how he changed suddenly with Cormié, when they were, you know, where they're filming them at the interview, and they kept it rolling and they didn't know they were rolling.

[2427] And he starts, hey, how much money you have?

[2428] I got so much more money.

[2429] I got this.

[2430] I got this.

[2431] And I go, dude, what are you doing?

[2432] What is...

[2433] It's a weird thing to say.

[2434] But then again, you think he was the youngest champion also.

[2435] Yeah, ever.

[2436] Right?

[2437] I mean, the guy is young.

[2438] I mean, I was an idiot.

[2439] I was an idiot when I started at 28.

[2440] I was still a grown up.

[2441] I was completely crazy.

[2442] So that's why I never blame people because I know I was an complete idiot.

[2443] Right.

[2444] Well, you have a great perspective on it because of that.

[2445] Yeah.

[2446] Yeah, you've been there.

[2447] You know what it's like.

[2448] And you were a fucking wild man, and now you're very calm, except for when you occasionally punch a table.

[2449] Yeah, 13 hours is too long for a commercial shoot.

[2450] Don't do that.

[2451] I know what that's like, though.

[2452] They keep on wanting you do it again.

[2453] You get angry.

[2454] Like, fuck.

[2455] Yeah.

[2456] No, it's an ego thing, too, because they said it's fine, but because they say it would be, you know, now it's in my head.

[2457] I go, I just want to do it for them.

[2458] So I don't feel as bad as I go away, man. Right.

[2459] Right.

[2460] It's just pushing it.

[2461] It's just saying no a little sooner.

[2462] That's the trick.

[2463] Do you miss inside MMA?

[2464] Yeah, I do.

[2465] I never, and I told this always, when I had the show, there's never been a show when we were, it mentioned today, it was Friday I had to film.

[2466] Never, ever I thought, I wish I could stay home tonight.

[2467] I always wanted to go and meet whoever was there or whoever was there.

[2468] I love that show.

[2469] It was great.

[2470] You saw the new talent.

[2471] That's where Connor McGregor comes in and it was just starting and interviewing him.

[2472] It's great.

[2473] You see the old guys, you know, Don Frye in and Coleman.

[2474] It was great.

[2475] It was a fun show.

[2476] What happened with it?

[2477] I think just numbers.

[2478] I think it's, you know, nowadays with everything streaming, you can, you know, there is no breaking news for us.

[2479] Oh, it has to happen on Friday.

[2480] Some should come along and reboot it and give you a show and just do it online where anybody can get a hold of it.

[2481] Do it on YouTube.

[2482] Yeah, but then also do it every day.

[2483] Make it, you can compete with a short or get MRA week.

[2484] You can because that's happening now.

[2485] Yeah.

[2486] So you need a show a live show.

[2487] It like a podcast, but you need to do it every day.

[2488] Yeah.

[2489] Or when there's breaking news.

[2490] Yeah.

[2491] Well, every day is, I mean, fuck, man. If you did it every day, it would just take off.

[2492] If somebody just figured out how to do it and got you into a studio.

[2493] Yeah, but you know what?

[2494] We're waiting, first of all, for the Kevin Can Wait.

[2495] If that goes to the third season, I'm going to have to have that.

[2496] Then I got 11 shows with the Professional Fighters League.

[2497] I just started karate combat, you know, so I'm good.

[2498] I would like to keep the free time free.

[2499] Are you a regular on Kevin Can Wait?

[2500] Yeah.

[2501] Well, I'm a regular on the show, but not a regular of the show.

[2502] That would be, if this goes to a third season, I become the cast bumper.

[2503] Oh.

[2504] Then it will be there.

[2505] What do you play on the show?

[2506] His neighbor.

[2507] Like last year, I existed 16 or 17 episodes.

[2508] Oh, that's awesome.

[2509] The crazy guy, Rudger from Holland.

[2510] You know, he's not the smartest guy, not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

[2511] It's very funny.

[2512] That's fucking great.

[2513] Yeah.

[2514] That's so cool that Kevin did that.

[2515] That's very cool.

[2516] And it happened because once inside MMA stopped, he said, now you can find.

[2517] do an appearance on a show because they were filmed Friday nights in front of a live audience so I could never be on a show so I did a guest appearance the writers liked it they got me back and then I did two more show three four shows the first season at the end and then he called me said dude they love you they want you for next year so I go that's also awesome I said this 21 years ago I believe against George Gross when he interviewed me for Sherdog was just started Sherdock 21 years ago and my dream job he asked me about and long story short my dream job will be to work in an America's sitcom I said and he said you don't want to fight I said no I did all that I just want to make people laugh look at you there wow that's hilarious it's so funny what a what a life that is man a sitcom everybody's happy yeah it's such a good time I did that shit for five years yep yeah it's interesting what happened with we're going to Reboot it?

[2518] What was it?

[2519] Which point?

[2520] Factor, Fear Factor?

[2521] They did reboot it with ludicrous.

[2522] Oh, so they didn't...

[2523] No, I wasn't going to do it.

[2524] Oh, yeah.

[2525] You're too busy too, right?

[2526] I'm too busy.

[2527] I don't want...

[2528] Almost got into a fight, remember that?

[2529] Oh, on Fear Factor.

[2530] Yeah.

[2531] Some silly guy.

[2532] Poor fuck.

[2533] Yeah, crazy people.

[2534] Yeah, that's the problem with a reality show is you're dealing with all these wacky people that are trying to get famous.

[2535] Whereas you're on a sitcom you're dealing with the other people that you're working with on a daily basis.

[2536] When I was on news radio, you know, we were like a weird little dysfunctional family.

[2537] You know, that's what happens in those sitcom sets.

[2538] You get very close to each other, you know?

[2539] It's a great job, man. It really is.

[2540] It's a great job if it's funny.

[2541] You know, I'm laughing the whole time.

[2542] If people would have a camera on me, if I'm laying in bed going over the script, I mean, it's all, I didn't realize that almost everything they say is funny.

[2543] You don't catch that when you're watching.

[2544] But that's why the reruns are so good.

[2545] Every time you see new jokes.

[2546] Right.

[2547] But pretty much everything is tied in together.

[2548] If every single line, you go, my God, this comes back from that scene before.

[2549] It's all tied in.

[2550] People don't realize what a good stand -up comedian, Kevin is, too.

[2551] Yeah.

[2552] He's a very, very good writer.

[2553] He's a very, very good writer.

[2554] Very funny guy.

[2555] Yeah, a lot of fun.

[2556] He just doesn't have enough stand -up specials out where people don't appreciate how good he really is.

[2557] Yeah, he's going to do for the Netflix now.

[2558] I know, I know, yeah.

[2559] I'm happy.

[2560] Yeah.

[2561] I think you already filmed it.

[2562] Did you already filmed?

[2563] I think so, too.

[2564] I went to a few because once we were there, he started, you know, going to some, stand -up places to start practicing because he was out for a little bit and now boom we started out together we have the same manager and I got him hooked up with my manager back in like fucking 1993 or some shit I don't even remember what year it was when Kevin and I were buddies in New York I remember you used roommates right also no we never lived together but we were just like we were friends we were both like in our early early 20s we were just starting out.

[2565] Yeah, but he told me that he used to watch a pancreas with you.

[2566] Yeah.

[2567] And that's how he knew me. Yeah.

[2568] And so when I came to America, I had this management right away calling this.

[2569] Hey, he wants to meet you.

[2570] So that was cool.

[2571] That is cool.

[2572] Yeah, Kevin used to watch all that shit with me. We used to watch pancreas and the early K -1 fights and everything, man. Yeah.

[2573] Yeah.

[2574] Kevin is a fucking serious martial artist, too.

[2575] People have no clue.

[2576] Yeah.

[2577] He gets hit, man. He's got fucking power.

[2578] This is a cool thing.

[2579] Wait, we're shooting.

[2580] Here comes the boom.

[2581] He, at the end, with Christoph Sosynski, when he lifts him up for the arm bar, right?

[2582] So the scene is coming, and they bring in a crane with a cable because it needs to be controlled, of course, for the film.

[2583] So he's asking, he says, oh, by the way, can I have your attention?

[2584] So all these extras are there.

[2585] And he says, Christoph, lay down.

[2586] So Christopher puts him in an arm bar.

[2587] He lifts Christop up above his head, puts him back, lifts him up above his head, brings him back, does it three times in a row.

[2588] He says, did you see that?

[2589] I just want to bring it out there so people can see because now the cable comes in.

[2590] Otherwise, everybody says that I can't do it.

[2591] And everybody was like, what?

[2592] He just did that.

[2593] He just did it three times in a row.

[2594] He's a gorilla.

[2595] And his speed and his punches.

[2596] If you see him, that's not sped up.

[2597] No. Here comes the boom.

[2598] I mean, the way he's hitting what he's doing.

[2599] The very first time I was training him, I remember coming home and telling my, if she says, and I say, man, he's a big guy, but, dude, he listens to every little thing I say, and he will do it immediately.

[2600] I mean, his mind -body connection is really good.

[2601] It is really good.

[2602] And eye coordination as well as a really good goal for two.

[2603] Yeah, he's a good dude.

[2604] I've known that guy forever.

[2605] All right, boss.

[2606] Hi.

[2607] I think we should wrap this up.

[2608] So karate .com, if anybody wants to go, karate combat.

[2609] And you said April 26th in Miami.

[2610] In Miami.

[2611] And you could stream it live on karate .com.

[2612] For free.

[2613] Give them your email address.

[2614] Boom.

[2615] And they hook it up.

[2616] And it should be fun.

[2617] And these guys, where are the athletes coming from?

[2618] All over the world, that's the greatest thing.

[2619] And if you have any, you know, contact these people, you know, because they listen to the fans.

[2620] So if you say, hey, man, please, are you thinking about the low kicks?

[2621] I heard on Joe Rogan that we're talking about, you know, and maybe watch a few fights and see what you think.

[2622] And once you think, hey, yeah, it should be added.

[2623] Start emailing him.

[2624] Just talk about it because they throw it in the group, they listen to the people, and then let's see what happens.

[2625] Well, I'm seeing a lot of six -pack, so I'm very impressed already.

[2626] They look good.

[2627] Boss Rootin, ladies and gentlemen.

[2628] Thank you, sir.

[2629] Always a pleasure, my brother.

[2630] Godspeed.

[2631] Godspeed to you as well.