The Daily XX
[0] We are recording.
[1] Okay.
[2] Hi, Rick.
[3] Sam, nice to see you.
[4] Rick Steve's one of my favorite people on the planet.
[5] Sam, nice to hear from you again.
[6] We had a good conversation a while ago, and now it's a whole different world.
[7] Yeah, so I profiled you.
[8] My profile of you came out in the New York Times Magazine last year, and part of the reason I wanted to call and talk to you was you and I are supposed to be hanging out.
[9] That's right.
[10] It was one of the last things I deleted from my calendar.
[11] I'm Sam Anderson, and I'm a staff writer for the New York Times Magazine.
[12] And last year, I wrote a profile of the travel guru, Rick Steves.
[13] Hi, I'm Rick Steves.
[14] For many travelers, the quintessence of Spain is found here, Andalusia.
[15] So Rick Steves, for anyone who doesn't know, he's really an evangelist of travel.
[16] Today, like Turkey in general, gazeliot is Muslim.
[17] The power of Rick Steves is that this is not just a business for him.
[18] It's a whole life philosophy.
[19] Akkavit, what does that mean?
[20] It means the more tough life.
[21] And it tastes like that when it goes for the herring.
[22] Okay, well, this is the learner's dose here, but I'll give it a go.
[23] He wants to empower average everyday Americans who might not otherwise leave the country to get out of their comfort zone and go explore the world.
[24] They give an insight into a people who in a thousand years have evolved from fearsome, marauding Vikings to people like me. And I've been thinking about a moment.
[25] a lot since we've all been hunkered down because here's a guy who's in constant motion.
[26] He just thrives on moving from one place to the next.
[27] He's always traveling and suddenly the entire world is shut down.
[28] It's like a switch was flipped and his whole life mission is just canceled.
[29] All these dreams that have been dashed are actually put on hold so I was wondering what does Rick Steves do with his time and maybe an even bigger question.
[30] If Rick Steves can't travel, then who is Rick Steves?
[31] There was nothing on my calendar.
[32] It was just a complete blank slate for my future.
[33] Wow.
[34] So what have you been doing day by day instead of hanging around with me?
[35] Well, the big part of my life is a part that was always squeezed away by my workaholism, and that's just enjoying being alive in this privileged little world.
[36] I've got a nice place in Edmonds, half hour north of Seattle.
[37] I've got a view of the mountains.
[38] It seems like the volume of the birds have been cranked up.
[39] When I step out of the morning, there's less traffic and more bird sound.
[40] And I've been thinking about dusting off old passions.
[41] I got out my trumpet, and the valves hadn't wiggled for literally decades.
[42] And I could still play the trumpet, which is fun.
[43] I didn't even know you played the trumpet.
[44] I thought I knew everything about you.
[45] I like to keep a few things to pull out later.
[46] What other elements of life have you been finding yourself enjoying?
[47] I mean, it sounds ridiculous, but I have never cooked in my whole life.
[48] I have never cut into an onion in my entire life.
[49] What?
[50] I had never really made pasta until now.
[51] Oh, my gosh.
[52] I've had a bad attitude about it.
[53] I've always, you know, I've been at parties and people put on a, on a, on a, what do you call it a, um, bib or what was that, yeah, apron?
[54] An apron, yeah.
[55] Yeah, that's called an apron.
[56] They put it on an apron and they're everybody having a good time, convivial, slicing, you know, mushrooms in the kitchen.
[57] And I just was awkward and I would just go to the living room and I'd sit there alone with my gyps and dip, you know.
[58] Uh, and now I'm realizing what I've missed.
[59] Wow.
[60] It's like somebody just told me there's a whole new word.
[61] world out there.
[62] You can do something more than go out to eat, bring home, you know, leftovers and make picnics.
[63] So, I mean, that's just a delight.
[64] So you're really expanding your horizons.
[65] Yeah, well, you know, I'm learning to travel without, without any airplane tickets.
[66] Wow.
[67] This is a huge change.
[68] It's a great thing.
[69] But I have to be mindful that I'm really privileged.
[70] And I hope that, you know, when people think about this, they think about it mindful of the fact that it hits a lot of people who don't have the ability to weather it as well as we do pretty brutally.
[71] But one way or another, we'll get through this.
[72] I guess one of my big hopes, Sam, is that social distancing doesn't become the norm.
[73] I just love the way the French kiss each other on the cheek.
[74] I love a nice high five when I get to the top of a little peak in Switzerland.
[75] And you want to sit next to a stranger and share your French fries in an English pub.
[76] I think one of the great pleasures that you provide people all the time is the fun of traveling vicariously.
[77] And I remember people telling me that you often get letters from prisoners saying that even in prison, people watch your show and feel like they're out in the world.
[78] And so I wonder if that aspect of your teaching is even more powerful now, if you've heard anything from people about that.
[79] I actually have, because one of my themes lately is this virus can stop our travel plans, but it cannot stop our travel dreams.
[80] We're not in business to make money right now.
[81] Our mission is to keep people's travel dreams alive and to give people something positive.
[82] We just a couple days ago designed Rick Steve's Europe bingo.
[83] where the cards have all of the little goofy clichés that show up in almost every one of my shows.
[84] And we've made that available.
[85] And you can turn it into a drinking game if you want, but it's just...
[86] Okay, okay, hold on, wait.
[87] What are the key triggers in the Rick Steve's travel drinking game?
[88] Oh, well, it's a bingo board, so you've got all of your...
[89] If I use alliteration...