#167 - Aubrey Marcus

[0] The Joe Rogan Experience.

[1] Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

[2] Oh, I'll never get tired of hearing that.

[3] That was the coolest moment of my life as a professional broadcaster.

[4] What's that UFO sound, Brian?

[5] What are you trying to do to us?

[6] I don't know how to stop that thing.

[7] What is it?

[8] It'll go away after a while.

[9] It was some special effects that I was doing early on.

[10] It's the outro.

[11] Brian, it's not going away.

[12] Now it's just in your head.

[13] No. Come on, Brian.

[14] You've got to shut that off.

[15] Do you really not know how to shut that off?

[16] It's gone now.

[17] Does it just last until a slow beat?

[18] Now it's going to drive me crazy because I'm going to hear a beat every 30 seconds.

[19] I'm going to hear it in the background.

[20] A little constant distraction.

[21] That's not a good sound effect.

[22] Let's not use that one again.

[23] How about that?

[24] Freaking everybody out, man. There's a lot of people that listen to this podcast, man, and they're on some shit.

[25] They're very hearted.

[26] Yeah, man. You can't freak them out with fucking alien noises.

[27] Did you see that spaceship?

[28] It was on, I believe it was Engadget or Gizmodo, one of those gadget websites, where they were talking about there's all these photos of this crazy spacecraft that the government was driving on the back of a truck.

[29] Yeah, it was like through Kansas.

[30] I mean, who knows what the fuck it was?

[31] It could have been a weather balloon or a drone.

[32] They're all weather balloons, right?

[33] Well, they know that we're using drones now because a guy was arrested.

[34] It was a cattle dispute.

[35] And I mean, the only way this even makes sense is that someone must have insane money and hate this guy because the story doesn't make any sense.

[36] But they used a drone to determine that there was cows in this guy's property that weren't his and that he did not alert the other ranch that their cattle...

[37] had wandered onto his.

[38] And they used a drone to determine this.

[39] And I'm like, Jesus Christ.

[40] How does this other guy get that drone?

[41] Find out who that guy is and follow him.

[42] That guy who can call someone and say, hey, yeah, I'm having a cow problem with my asshole neighbor.

[43] Can I borrow one of those fucking drones?

[44] Can I borrow one of those predator things and search around this asshole's property?

[45] Holy shit, man. Is that like a crazy violation?

[46] And the only thing they could catch on him was that some cows had wandered over to his property?

[47] what the fuck man how many cows worth of money does it cost to hire a drone yeah sounds like an episode of american dad like you know what i mean like this guy's just abusing his power like i'll just take my drone over there that's exactly what it sounds like it sounds like south park or something yeah it's fucking completely ridiculous yeah they caught the guy with um i should look up the uh the actual full story uh drone use Cattle case?

[48] Does that sound right?

[49] Did you know Seth MacFarlane's up for a Grammy?

[50] He's against like Barbra Streisand right now because he has a music CD now.

[51] What?

[52] Yeah, like he's a, I don't know.

[53] He's like a singer.

[54] Cattle rustling family.

[55] Maybe my take on it is wrong because they're addressing them as a cattle rustling family.

[56] So they're saying that these people are stealing cattle, I guess.

[57] Armed with a search warrant, the Nelson County Sheriff Keith Janke went looking for six missing cows.

[58] Wow, really?

[59] That's it?

[60] Six cows?

[61] You use a fucking drone to find six cows?

[62] Wow, this is creepy.

[63] That's American data.

[64] There's some old laws against horse stealing and cattle thieves that are super harsh, just from the day they were made.

[65] But this is like the first.

[66] instances of this, right?

[67] Is this something that the Patriot Act allows for?

[68] It must be.

[69] Having drones?

[70] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[71] I'm not kidding.

[72] Damn.

[73] How else are we going to get fucked?

[74] We're going to have drones following us at Toys R Us?

[75] Well, you know, even worse, the NDAA that just passed, the National Defense Authorization Act, that's really scary because it allows them to treat the United States as a battlefield, and that means they can stop things with troops.

[76] They're going to use our military against American citizens.

[77] It's like a war against the people, like a civil war.

[78] It's really completely insane.

[79] And the indefinite detention, the fact that you don't have to have a warrant.

[80] If they think you're a threat, they can just detain you indefinitely.

[81] And you see John McCain out there supporting that.

[82] You're like, wow, man, you don't see where this is going to go?

[83] You really think that that should be allowed?

[84] You start to put the pieces of the puzzle together, Obama.

[85] authorizing 20 ,000 extra troops here for the domestic front.

[86] I think you sent a tweet out about that.

[87] So scary.

[88] You start to put the pieces together.

[89] It looks like they know some shit's going to go down and they're preparing for the instance in which it does, which is scary.

[90] It looks like the only way this would be getting passed, the only way this would be accepted by so many people and not enrage others is that they know there's going to be a massive civil unrest.

[91] They know there's going to be something nutty.

[92] Yeah, you get that feeling for sure.

[93] That's terrifying.

[94] It is terrifying.

[95] But as I thought about it too, I mean...

[96] Back in the days where you crushed rebellions, there's plenty of tyrannies that have crushed rebellions throughout history.

[97] There was always certain factors present.

[98] There was a lack of information able to circulate.

[99] They would close down those things.

[100] The government's hinting at different ways of trying to do that, but I don't think they'll ever be successful.

[101] The Internet's too prevalent.

[102] It's too powerful.

[103] As you've said, they'll build ways around it.

[104] They'll find ways to communicate.

[105] And then also, the people they were suppressing were generally not as well -armed as the people who are trying to suppress them.

[106] So they had an overwhelming force majeure of technological superiority in their arms.

[107] But this is a well -armed nation.

[108] And I just can't imagine that even our troops, the some that are brainwashed or not, would ever really want to take out their real guns against our citizens.

[109] But the citizens, when pushed hard enough...

[110] We're all armed.

[111] At a certain point where they're abusing our people, it could get really bad.

[112] I just can't imagine that it could get to that level.

[113] I can't imagine that it can either, but it really seems like they're preparing for it.

[114] When you see how things have slid in certain parts of this country, how far things have gone.

[115] Have you ever seen any of the documentaries on Detroit?

[116] They show you how bad it is there now.

[117] 47 % illiteracy rate.

[118] I mean, the functional literacy rate, 47%.

[119] That's half the people can't read.

[120] That's incredible.

[121] And these houses that are up for sale for like $1 ,000.

[122] $500, just abandoned building after abandoned building.

[123] It's like, wow.

[124] We know in our lifetime that this has all changed.

[125] We know.

[126] We know it's possible for things to go horribly wrong, completely fall apart.

[127] Yeah, I agree.

[128] I just think that final step that they're trying to prepare for is a step that's ultimately destined for failure.

[129] They won't be able to pull that trigger.

[130] It's kind of like in the nuclear age.

[131] There's a certain level of warfare that you just can't do.

[132] You know, like you can't get mass a group of people and attack another country that has a nuclear armament because they'll just use the nuke.

[133] Like you can't push the Americans too hard because we're all fucking armed.

[134] you know and we're all going to be able to communicate with each other like there's a certain boundary point where it's destined to fail so i think they have a weird strategy it's like they're preparing for something but the end game can't work like they can't push that final button where they put live rounds in the troops and start shooting us like we just will not allow that under any circumstance and that's what the founders in creating the second amendment i believe they had in mind was not to protect against our enemies but also against our own government misusing the power of the army it's funny how few people are willing to engage that idea you know willing to even even throw it out there that it's possible that there could be some sort of a massive civil war in this country and that literally we might have troops american troops fighting against americans Nobody wants to think that.

[135] Nobody wants to think that that's possible.

[136] You know, that's why when, you know, they talk about the Second Amendment, you know, allowing for an armed militia, right?

[137] Isn't that like part of the...

[138] Yeah, well -regulated militia.

[139] Yeah.

[140] And people go, what, you know, rise against the government?

[141] Just 10 years ago, that sounded like nonsense.

[142] That sounded like the stupidest thing in the world.

[143] Like, why the fuck would you do that?

[144] This is the greatest country on earth.

[145] But within the 10 years since 9 -11, the deterioration of what this country stood for...

[146] to me and to i think a lot of us it's just it's been on yeah it's been it's been used it's just like like what we're supposed like one of the reasons why everybody was so horrified after 9 -11 it's like People who don't pay that much attention to foreign politics, they don't know exactly what all the complaints are and what countries we're occupying, what sacred land we have fucking troops marching on every day.

[147] If they don't understand what the actual reason for someone being pissed off at us for, their view of the...

[148] The United States most likely is like really pretty rosy.

[149] Like we're the like the peacekeepers of the world.

[150] And yeah, Vietnam was a little shady, but we did fuck up Hitler.

[151] Okay.

[152] And Japan was ready to take over.

[153] We took care of that nonsense to the Russia.

[154] We bankrupt them bitches.

[155] All right.

[156] We're good.

[157] We got this.

[158] But you.

[159] you dig deeper and you pay more attention to it and you go, look at what could happen in 10 years.

[160] Look how it can just slide away from you in 10 years.

[161] Things like the Patriot Act, things like tapping into people's fucking cell phones on a regular basis with no warrants.

[162] And the fact that the Patriot Act was only used a handful of times for actual terrorist attacks, but was used hundreds and thousands of times for drugs.

[163] hundreds and thousands of times I forget the real number but it was just a ridiculous disproportionate number where the majority of the times they use the Patriot Act was for drugs that's what people yeah I mean if you allow that power it's going to be used in whatever means possible that's why you know preventing these things like that act that just passed is so vital because you give a lot You know, you let a law pass with one intention.

[164] Well, it doesn't really matter what the intentions are.

[165] Even the people trying to pass them may have those intentions.

[166] But ultimately, with that power enabled, the corruption is inevitable and it happens extremely fast.

[167] And that's even a...

[168] benevolent kind of view the other view is yeah we'll get it passed under these auspices and then we'll really use it to you know to do whatever their other their means are so the setup that they have now where the they're allowed to like come up with laws and then these few handful of motherfuckers that have gotten to the cool kids party they get to vote on everything that it goes through the senate and it goes through congress and they agree to it and then if the president doesn't veto it that's it it went through this you know x amount of people 300 million people are changed now and affected by this corrupt, stupid, fucking shitbag, unconstitutional idea that these fuckheads passed.

[169] And it's just somehow or another they're allowed to do that.

[170] That's a ridiculous form of government.

[171] That's ridiculous.

[172] Representative or not, that's stupid.

[173] That's a terrible way for really important shit to get introduced into our culture.

[174] And the fact that that is the way the system is set up, Ultimately, the whole thing needs to be radically overhauled.

[175] It's not like a little minor tweak.

[176] It needs to be radically overhauled because there's so much that gets done.

[177] And so much that sucks out there that's just – we just follow it because it's written somewhere and because everybody agreed to it at one point in time.

[178] But as we've gotten older and you get a much better grasp on how fucked up the world really is and how ridiculous some of the laws that are in place and what the actual origin of those laws are and the fact that they're actually based in real clear, measurable corruption.

[179] And it should be like a fuckload of people should be in jail is what it should be.

[180] But instead, it's just kind of like – It is the law.

[181] It's the way it is.

[182] It's on the paper.

[183] I think there's two ways to approach it.

[184] And I think one of the interesting things that we're going to do is there's two problems.

[185] One is what's wrong with currently the society that we're in and how to bridge that gap.

[186] But I think as important as anything is to just start fresh, take away all that momentum, all of those different people trained in the different ways, what you expect, and just...

[187] kind of start from scratch and say, if you could start from scratch, how could you set this up?

[188] Knowing what we know now and knowing the different pathways that history have already paved, how do you prevent these disasters?

[189] How do you prevent this corruption?

[190] How do you create a model that will create momentum going the other way?

[191] And then the question just becomes, how do you bridge these two situations?

[192] Is it possible?

[193] Is it possible to go from our current situation to the ideal situation?

[194] If so, how?

[195] And then kind of fill that in.

[196] Well, the real issue is financial.

[197] What do you do with all the money?

[198] Do you divvy it up?

[199] What do you do?

[200] And there's a lot of people out there that are at zero right now that would love that.

[201] They would love, like, everybody gets a fair shake, man. Everybody gets a fair piece, which is not supposed to be how it is.

[202] Everybody has the opportunity to go out and make money by whatever means you want to do it.

[203] And if your means are unsuccessful, it doesn't mean the system sucks.

[204] It means that for whatever reason, whether you're in a saturated environment or whether the job that you want is highly touted and it's one that everybody wants to get and there's a lot of competition, is that what it is?

[205] What is the reason ultimately?

[206] you're not able to do what you're doing.

[207] Because there's got to be a reason for it.

[208] Yes, the situation we're currently in economically sucks, but I think a lot of these dudes are just willing to lay down.

[209] A lot of these dudes are willing to go, it's rigged, the thing is rigged, man, I can't.

[210] And they're not even willing to try to figure out some way through it.

[211] We all know that at the beginning of, you know what I mean?

[212] I'm sure you must have felt this at points in your life, and I certainly felt it as a struggling comedian.

[213] There's points where you feel like you're not going to make it.

[214] You feel like this is a ridiculous pursuit.

[215] I'm a fucking failure.

[216] If I was doing that and then I thought, if I had these self -defeating thoughts and then I thought that the system was rigged, like if I was going to college to get some sort of a job in business, then I realized the system is rigged.

[217] defeating stage and then I'm marching around, that might not necessarily be the best move for you.

[218] Yeah, no, that's going to cause an end to the situation prematurely.

[219] I think people recognize that about any big giant movement is that they're not entirely pure.

[220] There's a lot of people that are in this Occupy movement that make a lot of fucking sense.

[221] There's a lot of people that are saying a lot of really important shit, and then there's a lot of crazy assholes.

[222] And there's a lot of people that pee themselves.

[223] Exactly.

[224] I read an interesting piece on that, and there's a Dutch economist, I think this guy, Habermas, and his point was that They're leading this almost anarchist movement without any set defined principles as a form of kind of.

[225] awareness for self -correction by the majority basically saying that there's nothing that they can say no bill no law no rule that will be respected enough to actually come out and say do this because the whole system is so corrupt and you know nepotistic and circular that somehow you know they would get that concession and then it would be over but by creating this kind of anarchist state where they're just in certain areas and they're just there they're causing people like us to to be more aware to heighten that sense of self awareness and self you know critical side side of things and may actually affect the majority to change in a much broader level than if they actually had demands and actually started to do it so yeah I mean you can criticize the people I mean I think I've said it before playing hacky sack out on the Austin City Hall you know it's not exactly going to inspire the most amount of people but it is going to cause people to talk about it and cause you know room for self -reflection and I think that kind of you know, anarchist protest almost, which is what it is, is effective in that way.

[226] Yeah, I think it definitely gets an energy out there.

[227] And that energy is most certainly interpreted with no question whatsoever.

[228] You know, everybody's mad.

[229] This is not good.

[230] We're not happy.

[231] And we're so unhappy that we're going to camp out in tents.

[232] It's really kind of ridiculous.

[233] And then it has to be, do we unite with these people and try to bring them all back?

[234] Or is it us against them?

[235] And when it becomes us against them, and then they start preparing for us against them with this NDAA passage, that's what it sounds like to me. It sounds like they're preparing for some sort of almost...

[236] military -style civil unrest in this country.

[237] Well, the pain is only just minor at this point, really.

[238] It's nothing.

[239] Look what's going on in Egypt, man. Did you see some of these beatings in Egypt?

[240] They're beating the fuck out of these protesters, man. I mean, beat them to death.

[241] It's horrendous, man. Horrendous shit.

[242] It's really, really hard to watch.

[243] These people running down the street, there are hundreds of them, and they encounter like one or two protesters and just club the fuck out of them.

[244] While they're unconscious, they're jumping on them and booting them in the head and cracking them full blast in the head.

[245] with batons while they're unconscious.

[246] This guy jumped on this woman.

[247] One guy was dragging her, and this guy jumped and stomped on her chest.

[248] She was a woman.

[249] She had a bra on.

[250] It was like a blue bra.

[251] She was skinny.

[252] And he just jumped up and stomped down on her chest.

[253] It is inhumane.

[254] It's horrific to watch.

[255] And that country right now is fucked.

[256] It's the new boss, same as the old boss.

[257] All of a sudden, this guy who had been running shit as a dictator for 20 plus years is gone.

[258] And who the fuck runs things?

[259] No, I do.

[260] No, I do.

[261] And then there's a jockeying, and there's just crazy lawlessness now.

[262] It's horrific to watch, man, when you see that, when you see these protesters getting beaten like that, man, the savagery involved.

[263] It's just like, man, you have no concern for their health or well -being.

[264] And people were running, shooting, just running and shooting guns, running forward towards these people, towards the protesters, and just shooting guns.

[265] I mean, they are not taking any bullshit.

[266] Where did you see that video?

[267] It's on YouTube, man. It's on YouTube.

[268] Because it's not graphic.

[269] You can't see any blood or anything.

[270] It's kind of shitty quality.

[271] What's up with shitty quality nowadays?

[272] I mean, come on.

[273] Yeah, right?

[274] They have some old -ass fucking Motorola cell phone.

[275] Yeah, I mean, that's what it was filmed on.

[276] I don't know what it was filmed on.

[277] Now you know where you drop those cell phones off in the boxes.

[278] It's like, donate your cell phones.

[279] That goes to Egypt.

[280] That goes to anywhere the world is fucked up.

[281] Yeah, I think the economic pain that we're kind of feeling, it's bad.

[282] I mean, definitely a lot of people are hurting, but it's not to Great Depression levels right now.

[283] You know, it's not even the levels that we've already seen happen before here in America.

[284] I think everybody recognizes that we are right now on a very unshaky foundation.

[285] Exactly, exactly.

[286] And when it gets worse, then, you know, the Occupy movement, I mean, what's going to cause...

[287] the people who are on the fringe to just come out in numbers.

[288] I think there'll be a kind of a tipping point effect where people are going to be like, fuck this.

[289] Fuck the corruption in the government.

[290] We need a new system.

[291] We need to stop spending money to bail out the banks.

[292] How would you ever convince the government to revamp the system and take away their power?

[293] You know, that's just like they would never do that.

[294] It takes an uprising like that.

[295] I mean, it takes it takes the people to cause the movement.

[296] And when has the government ever done shit without the people moving first?

[297] I mean, women's suffrage, for example, if women weren't marching around doing that thing, they may still not be able to vote.

[298] I mean, it takes the people rising up in order to change the government.

[299] It's the only fucking way because power is going to breed power.

[300] They're going to just keep the system status quo.

[301] I mean, maybe one or two examples where Lincoln abolished slavery, you know, on his own kind of before there was.

[302] massive upscale.

[303] But that was during a time of war.

[304] It had certain advantages, etc. There was a variety of different things involved in that.

[305] But it's always the people who demand something first that caused the government to change.

[306] And I think, you know, right now, people are talking in their talking voice.

[307] I think pretty soon they're going to have to start yelling.

[308] And I think that's ultimately what's going to happen to change.

[309] But before they start yelling, unfortunately, it has to hurt worse.

[310] And I think that's probably where we're heading, you know, is the more economic thing.

[311] Who would have ever thought this was going to be going down?

[312] Remember when you were younger, when Clinton was president?

[313] It looked like the world was just a rosy, fucking beautiful place to be.

[314] I miss that guy.

[315] Yeah, man. Just 10, 20 years.

[316] He was just a comfortable guy.

[317] What an amazing thing.

[318] In a comfortable time.

[319] In 20 years.

[320] 20 years, the world has just changed beyond recognition almost.

[321] But I think it's part of the natural cycle of things.

[322] I mean, things don't go in a steady curve.

[323] They have to go in these cycles.

[324] It gets way too far out of line, then it maybe goes back too far the other way.

[325] I mean, probably there'll be a point where the sentiments get too roused in the other direction.

[326] Like, wait, wait, wait a minute.

[327] We've got to have banks.

[328] We need to keep civilization together.

[329] We need credit cards.

[330] I don't want to be carrying gold bullion everywhere.

[331] Let's pull this shit together.

[332] God damn it.

[333] It's just, you know what we've got to get rid of?

[334] You've got to get rid of that stock market.

[335] I watched that fucking thing on TV.

[336] I sound like a grandpa.

[337] I watched that stock market.

[338] We've got to get rid of that.

[339] But I watched it on TV.

[340] I was watching something.

[341] on some financial report, and there's a ticker tape going on because it's like an alien program to me. The ticker tape's going on beneath it, and then this guy starts talking about a lack of confidence in this company and a confidence that there's a lot of confidence behind this company, and I'm watching these numbers spin.

[342] I'm like, this is insanity.

[343] These guys are like, there's like a virus, a virus of numbers, this horrible hurricane -like virus of numbers, and then there's a few people.

[344] there that sort of know how to decipher it they're pulling numbers out and seeing which way the waves are blowing i'm like what a wacky fucking system yeah based on confidence what based on how people feel about companies and shit and whether or not a new product just came out oh we're gonna buy buy apple buy buy and you can actually you know you can affect that somehow like what What are we basing any of our time on this wonky shit for?

[345] This is a ridiculous setup.

[346] The speculatory frenzy around stocks and these things is pretty outrageous.

[347] Really, it takes away from what originally the idea is, which is to own a share and interest in a company that you thought was going to make money and do things as a positive form of investment.

[348] When did it get completely wacky?

[349] Was it the Reagan administration?

[350] When were they allowed to have derivatives and stuff like that?

[351] Yeah, I think probably in the 80s.

[352] In the 80s?

[353] It got the wackiest because the markets were still...

[354] you know, pretty new in the 70s and things.

[355] I mean, but the stock market has had its nonsenses since the 1920s.

[356] I mean, you can read the father's remnants of the stock operator and see some of the same madness.

[357] But there were safeguards that were put in place after the big crash of the, whatever it was, the 20s, the Great Depression.

[358] There were safeguards that were put in place that were eventually dropped, right?

[359] Weren't there?

[360] Yeah, I mean, depending how much the market can drop in a certain day, basically limits.

[361] So it can go limit down.

[362] There's a lot of those things in different commodities.

[363] markets as well there'll be a limit to how far the price can move in one day but the thing is it that's just per day they don't limit it permanently because that would cause massive inefficiency so it just kind of curbs that initial panic like holy fuck we got to sell everything sell sell sell and then it drops way below where it needs to and then the margin calls kick in and then people you know lose all their money they're jumping out of buildings it's a mess at that point so they try to curb that it seems so ridiculous this buy buy buy sell sell sell it seems so ridiculous that a company could actually like go buy that like that could have any sense whatsoever in the world of business you know And still, but looking at these equity markets, they're way better off than the credit markets, than the debt markets.

[364] That's where all these problems are going.

[365] People swapping debt and derivatives and all of these things.

[366] And at least these are companies.

[367] At least ultimately, at the end of the day, you can poke a CEO in the chest and hold something, a service or a product that he created, that the company created.

[368] You know, all of these other debt pieces, what are they?

[369] They're just these numbers that are circulated in a variety of ways where everybody makes money.

[370] And if you lose money, guess what?

[371] You don't lose money because the government will bail you out.

[372] So how the fuck are they not going to do that?

[373] It's a no risk situation.

[374] You know, yeah, let's be super aggressive.

[375] Let's be super risky.

[376] We'll make a bunch of money on the way up.

[377] If we lose, no big deal.

[378] Uncle Sam will come in.

[379] They'll pay it all.

[380] I mean, how are we not expected for them to have it?

[381] That's why I think one of my biggest beefs with the Occupy Wall Street movement is...

[382] is it really should be Occupy Washington.

[383] I mean, you're telling these sharks that, hey, play this game.

[384] You can make all the money you want.

[385] And if you lose, we're going to bail you out.

[386] Well, whose fault is that?

[387] They're going to be sharks.

[388] Sharks are going to be sharks.

[389] These men are put in their positions for being greedy, for being the most aggressive of their class.

[390] And then we're expecting them to behave in these dramatically moral ways and not do it.

[391] No, it's not going to happen.

[392] If they have no...

[393] no room for failure at the end of the day, why the fuck wouldn't they do that?

[394] Has there ever been a stock market movie where they weren't really in it for the money and they were just kind of really cool guys and a lot of principles?

[395] Every stock market movie.

[396] I saw Tower Heist with Eddie Murphy and who the fuck is it?

[397] The other guy?

[398] Ben?

[399] Jesus Christ.

[400] Stiller.

[401] Jesus Christ.

[402] How did I blank on Ben Stiller?

[403] Hilarious fucking movie.

[404] But again, evil banker.

[405] You know?

[406] Evil stock market guy.

[407] Is there ever a nice stock market guy?

[408] Think about Boiler Room.

[409] Everyone's doing coke.

[410] Everyone's fucking crazy.

[411] They're all over the edge.

[412] Is there a stock market movie where everybody's really cool?

[413] It's a breed of animal.

[414] They go to work with pictures of their kids, Bible passages.

[415] It's like asking if there's a great white shark movie where the shark doesn't eat the fuck out of people.

[416] Of course he eats the fuck out of people.

[417] It's just the nature of the beast.

[418] There's some great stock guys.

[419] I've known a lot of them.

[420] Some great hedge fund managers.

[421] I've known a lot of them.

[422] them but you know ultimately they are super aggressive and they're going to take advantage of any market that they see there's a dude i used to do taekwondo with who became a stock market guy and i didn't see him for like a couple weeks and i saw him he was like he had a suit on and shit and i was like what are you doing man like what's going on with you and he's like dude i'm fucking selling stocks i'm fucking he was like this really aggressive psycho dude yeah and all of a sudden he was like really into this game of selling stocks but the way he was talking about i was like he was going to financial war every day and we're fucking bitches up bro, we got the fucking best team.

[423] Let me invest some of your money.

[424] Get the fuck out of here with this crazy asshole.

[425] No, I know.

[426] It's a silly system.

[427] It's weird.

[428] Show me your impersonation of a sad North Korean.

[429] No!

[430] Stomp your fist up and down.

[431] It's like the worst acting ever.

[432] Every time a camera's on, they're like, you are sad, no?

[433] You sad?

[434] They're all falling down.

[435] How depressing is that country, man?

[436] No tears.

[437] No tears.

[438] I saw a documentary the other day on that country, and this was right before he died.

[439] I was like, I watched this.

[440] It was showing how all the kids and people are blind.

[441] in North Korea.

[442] They're going blind because their diets are so bad that they're getting cataracts.

[443] And there was kids, just tons of kids with cataracts because of how poor their diet is.

[444] I mean, 40%, I think it was, 40 or 45 % of the children in North Korea are starving.

[445] dying because of starvation.

[446] If you're interested in any of this, go to Vice Guide for North Korea.

[447] Go to vice .com and check out the thing that they have up because they have a bunch of shit today including all this North Korean labor camp footage where they have all the slave footage.

[448] That's crazy.

[449] The whole country is around those slave camps.

[450] That's what makes the fear that makes all these people act this way.

[451] The slave camps.

[452] Yeah, the people have no power there.

[453] I mean, it's really amazing.

[454] When you see a dictatorship, it's horrific.

[455] It's the worst way a human being can be treated.

[456] But it's also quite impressive.

[457] It's really amazing that some guy is just allowed to just straight run shit.

[458] Like in Thailand, some American just got locked up in jail, I think for a year, for talking bad about the king.

[459] The king actually doesn't even run the country in Thailand, as far as I remember from when I was there.

[460] You can't talk shit about him, though.

[461] But there is a special rule about talking bad about the king.

[462] It's a weird situation where they have some kind of control on the verbiage towards the king, but he actually has not as much governmental power as the general other Thai leaders.

[463] I don't know what they have as far as a person.

[464] That's interesting.

[465] Apparently he's legitimately beloved.

[466] yes you know that they love the kid yeah it's not amazing it is wow yeah that's a strange place man that is do you think we're withdrawing our troops so we can send them to north korea Dude, we're not going to North Korea.

[467] There's no minerals in North Korea.

[468] There's no gold in North Korea.

[469] There's no oil in North Korea.

[470] Yeah, but there's a whole country of people that are kind of, I don't know, that's kind of Nazi shit, in my opinion.

[471] It is.

[472] Well, it's a communist dictatorship.

[473] It is 100 % like that.

[474] I mean, it's actually worse than Nazi.

[475] Right.

[476] I mean, I don't want to say worse.

[477] But you don't think Team America?

[478] It's the same exact vein of it.

[479] I mean, they're not out there causing genocide and attacking other nations.

[480] But, I mean, they're fucking, you know, that's a terrible...

[481] way to live.

[482] No doubt about it.

[483] They said that Kim Jong was the number one buyer of Hennessy.

[484] Number one single person that buys the most Hennessy.

[485] Do you almost think that...

[486] Imagine what kind of fucking rapper parties he must have had.

[487] The rappers are so mad about that right now.

[488] They're pissed.

[489] They're going to change that.

[490] Do you think maybe that we are planning...

[491] Did you make that up, by the way?

[492] No, it's 100 % true.

[493] I swear to fucking God.

[494] Look it up.

[495] I believe you.

[496] But do you think maybe that we poisoned Kim Jong to give him a heart attack?

[497] And do you think that we're planning all this to go to...

[498] in North Korea?

[499] No. He was an old dude.

[500] But it is kind of funny.

[501] If you want to be a conspiracy theorist and really start thinking about it and think about, you know, Gaddafi and, you know, Osama bin Laden and Kim Jong -il and Mubarak's gone.

[502] Think about all these people who have been moved, replaced, or died just really recently.

[503] It's like, have you ever seen General Anthony, what is his, no, Wesley Clark?

[504] Do you remember that guy that was running for president for a while?

[505] I think he's a general.

[506] Some badass army guy.

[507] And let me look it up so I can give him the right...

[508] It may just be part of this sign of the times of change that it's kind of sweeping over everybody.

[509] It seems like there's this tumultuous period as we're coming into this age that's causing change to happen at a more rapid rate.

[510] Brian, pull up the plan.

[511] I want you to pull up the plan according to General Wesley Clark.

[512] You can just Google Wesley Clark, General Wesley Clark, and this will come up in YouTube.

[513] But my point was this General Wesley Clark.

[514] actually in, I believe it was 2007, he predicted all of this.

[515] And he said, this is the plan.

[516] This is what they want to do.

[517] They're going to get rid of Gaddafi.

[518] They're going to go into this country.

[519] They're going to take over in Iraq.

[520] They're going to kill Saddam Hussein.

[521] I mean, he like literally spells it out.

[522] Everything that we did.

[523] About 10 days after 9 -11, I went through the Pentagon and I saw Secretary Rumsfeld.

[524] And Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz, I went downstairs just to say hello to some of the people on the joint staff who used to work for me. And one of the generals called me in.

[525] He said, sir, you've got to come in and talk to me a second.

[526] I said, well, you're too busy.

[527] He said, no, no. He says, we've made the decision we're going to war with Iraq.

[528] This was on or about the 20th of September.

[529] I said, we're going to war with Iraq.

[530] Why?

[531] He said, I don't know.

[532] He said, I guess they don't know what else to do.

[533] So I said, well, did they find some information connecting Saddam to al -Qaeda?

[534] He said, no, no. He says, there's nothing new that way.

[535] They just made the decision to go to war with Iraq.

[536] He said, I guess it's like we don't know what to do about terrorists, but we've got a good military and we can take down governments.

[537] So I came back to see him a few weeks later.

[538] and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan.

[539] I said, are we still going to war with Iraq?

[540] And he said, oh, it's worse than that.

[541] He said, he reached over on his desk, he picked up a piece of paper, and he said, I just got this down from upstairs, meaning the Secretary of Defense's office today, and he said, this is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off Iran.

[542] Go through the countries again?

[543] Well, starting with Iraq, then Syria and Lebanon, then Libya, then Somalia and Sudan, and then back to Iran.

[544] 2007.

[545] Wow.

[546] This is a General Wesley Clark.

[547] I mean, this is, you know, he's not a kook.

[548] Jesus Christ.

[549] But it's weird that he would...

[550] Is he still alive?

[551] If you know that, yeah.

[552] Well, I mean, I think, yeah, he's alive, man. But I mean, if you know that and you don't tell...

[553] you're probably much more likely to get killed.

[554] You know what I'm saying?

[555] You might be thinking about telling somebody that.

[556] Once it's out.

[557] Yeah, once it's out, it's out.

[558] And if they get you, it's almost obvious.

[559] But if you're like one of these dudes and you know some shit like that, you better get on a talk show, son.

[560] You know what I mean?

[561] If someone knows that you know that, I mean, I'm sure they wouldn't kill Wesley Clark because he's a fucking general.

[562] And on top of that, he's probably been a part of a bunch of shit.

[563] in his past that maybe he didn't agree with.

[564] It may have a combination to a lockbox with a lot worse secrets than that.

[565] Sure.

[566] It shows up unexplainably dead.

[567] Yeah, and look, nobody knows more about how the world really runs than high -ranking generals, period.

[568] They get pushed into situations where they absolutely know that they're doing it for a very specific reason.

[569] That Smedley Butler article that was written in the 1930s, War is a Racket.

[570] You know, amazing, amazing article.

[571] When you think about the fact that this guy wrote this in like, I think it was like 19 something, 1930 something.

[572] And you would say, you know, back then, man, there's no way people had figured it out.

[573] Back then, you know, people were, we weren't a corrupt country back then.

[574] Back then, all the wars were just.

[575] It was real bad people over there.

[576] Not according to this dude, man. This is a major, U .S. Marine Major General Smedley D. Butler.

[577] And it's a really brilliant, it was actually 1930.

[578] It was published in 1935, but he wrote it in 1930.

[579] It's called War is a Racket.

[580] And this guy...

[581] Had a career in the military and got out and just said, listen, this is how it goes.

[582] War is a racket.

[583] It always has been.

[584] It's possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious.

[585] It is the only one international in scope.

[586] It is the only one which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.

[587] A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to be to the majority of the people.

[588] Only a small inside group knows what it's about.

[589] It's conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the very many.

[590] Out of war, few people can make huge fortunes.

[591] And this is in 1930, this guy wrote that.

[592] Isn't that incredible?

[593] It's like, we've always sucked.

[594] We've always sucked.

[595] We've just been better at covering it up.

[596] If we had the internet in 1930, people would be like, why are we in Mexico?

[597] What's going on in Haiti?

[598] What are we doing in Cuba?

[599] There's probably some truth to that.

[600] So if we had to do it, we've talked about this, Joe.

[601] So if we had to start it all over, let's say some cataclysm happens, economic collapse happens, a situation where like -minded people are able to, before it happens, say, all right, look, listen, we got to...

[602] scope out North Dakota.

[603] This is going to be our spot.

[604] Let's go there.

[605] Is that the only way to do it?

[606] Or is it possible that the way to do it is to not have everything completely fall apart, but have everybody sort of come to some sort of an understanding?

[607] I would much rather have that.

[608] Absolutely.

[609] Maybe we could ease into a second economy by starting it off slowly.

[610] You don't have to use the entire U .S. currency.

[611] Maybe we can have an alternative currency that we all agree to.

[612] They tried that in the US.

[613] austria town of wergel during the great depression i think 1932 and it's a pretty interesting story the the currency had had two features one that it was commodities backed so it wasn't just backed by gold which is one way to do it but the problem with just a gold back is you're you know it's contingent on people actually liking gold still yeah you know then wanting gold at the someone's gonna wake up eventually the fuck is this gold like you can't eat it you can't you can't kill anybody with it you can't make hammers out of it yeah so you can make a catapult right so you gotta i mean obviously gold Yeah, it'd be a heavy something.

[614] It'd be a good weapon if you could catapult a giant gold ball.

[615] Fuck you up, man. But it ain't worth what it costs.

[616] The most ironic way to die is to be hit by a giant gold ball.

[617] I got pinballed.

[618] Well, you know the whole story about the Zechariah Stitchin story about why gold was valuable to ancient humans?

[619] Yeah.

[620] He believes that the Anunnaki who created the human out of the lower hominid and the alien genetics, they needed us to mine for gold.

[621] they needed gold in massive amounts to suspend in their atmosphere to protect their atmosphere.

[622] It sounds completely ridiculous, but when you really go back to how long people have been using gold, they were like nomads, man. What did you give a fuck about this little shiny...

[623] weird soft metal that you can't even make a tool out of.

[624] Aldous Huxley has a different theory that I think is actually pretty interesting as well.

[625] He says that the reason people like gold is because it approximates some of the shiny visions that you see under the psychedelic or mystic experience.

[626] So that's the reason why we like gems.

[627] That's the reason why we like gold.

[628] I mean now metal is everywhere.

[629] It's ubiquitous.

[630] But back then that was the only shiny shit that you found in the earth was metal that you mined.

[631] Right now we mass produce it so it's not that.

[632] you know mystical or beholding anymore but he says you know he's like why are we digging in the dirt to find these shiny pebbles still and he says it's because when you're on these kind of mescaline or dmt or these other experiences you see these multi -faceted you know you know colors and lights and shine you know that kind of makes sense to me but many more people have gotten into diamonds and rubies than have had psychedelic experiences right but we're all but we all know some knowledge of that realm you know and that's his that's his idea his basic concept is that your mind is just a filter and it symbolizes the things that you see so that you can walk around you do the normal daily stuff but when you remove that filter like through psychedelics or through of that starts to peer through and you see the colors in the way you know that they are in the void and the different aspects outside of our physical confines and that's what's so mystical about them and that's why we seek that even if we haven't seen it in psychedelics we know it and that's part of like you know part of our soul's knowledge or at least part of the collective mind at large well everyone's had a dream you know in any dream state is just might as well be a psychedelic experience.

[633] I mean, how many times have dream states just been like, you know, you're involved in something that is just completely ridiculous, makes no sense, and you're just kind of going with it, you know?

[634] I mean, that's like a lot of like really nutty, crazy dreams, right?

[635] That is like a psychedelic experience, and most likely even caused by psychedelic compounds in the brain.

[636] They don't totally understand how that works, man. They don't totally understand like why...

[637] dimethyltryptamine is in your brain and 5 -methoxy dimethyltryptamine and when is it actually released there's like theories that it's released in periods of high stress and there's some anecdotal evidence but they really have to develop these uh much more uh sensitive ways of determining like when the actual dmt is released during various stages of human activity because right now from what i understand one of the only ways to find out is when someone dies like does dmt flood the brain when they die well you have to like get in there like within seconds after they're dead and measure that shit you know within I mean when you you're body processes it.

[638] It's 10, 15 minutes and you're back to baseline.

[639] I mean, it's a, it's a really quick experience.

[640] So like when someone dies, if they get that blast, if that's what happens and you know, you have a psychedelic trip that like, whether it eases your, you know, your departure from the earth or whether it opens up some fucking gateway to something that's next, whatever the hell it is, it's gone pretty goddamn quickly.

[641] It's poof, you know, it's there and it's not.

[642] So they would have to like open your fucking head up real quick and get to that gland and then start.

[643] I'll start testing, I think.

[644] There's something to it, obviously.

[645] But what is it?

[646] I spent a long time telling that story about the jungle when I was down there and taking ayahuasca.

[647] And since then, I had a very deep psilocybin experience in contrast.

[648] And there is something particular about the DMT molecule that I'm convinced that's transcendentary to what, in the framework of the jungle when I was there.

[649] you know, causes you to go to different dimensions than even a psilocybin trip.

[650] I felt like there was the DMT molecule is some form of gateway that opens doors that you can't even get, you know, with other energy medicine, psychoactive compounds.

[651] There's something particularly special about that.

[652] And I couldn't help but feel that overwhelming feeling.

[653] I actually was able to, I saw a lot of the same kind of figures and a lot of things like trying to pull me up.

[654] That was a large part of my vision was these reaching down in and trying to pull me up into these higher levels.

[655] But the fuel wasn't there.

[656] I couldn't open that door, the same door that I went through back in the jungle.

[657] And maybe that has something to do with the shaman.

[658] Maybe it has to do with the other things.

[659] But I think it has to do with TNT itself.

[660] Totally different compound.

[661] Each one has their own specialty.

[662] I think that is a part of the compound of psilocybin.

[663] NN -dimethyltryptamine is actually a part of it.

[664] I think it's something like 4 -Fox4 -Oxy -NN -dimethyltryptamine.

[665] It's very closely related.

[666] Yeah, and it certainly is.

[667] But there was, I don't know, for whatever reason, there was some other special...

[668] Maybe you didn't have enough.

[669] Maybe not.

[670] How much did you have?

[671] It was probably two and a half grams made into some tea.

[672] Oh, that's not enough, son.

[673] But it was steeped.

[674] You got silly.

[675] Yeah, you got silly.

[676] That's not enough.

[677] You need five.

[678] Five is the magic number.

[679] Yeah.

[680] But I've taken a good amount of it.

[681] Brian did like seven recently.

[682] By mistake.

[683] The world disappeared on him for a little while.

[684] Yeah, yeah.

[685] There's different situations cause different results, but it's pretty remarkable.

[686] I haven't done DMT in several years, and it's been a couple because the last time I did it was the only time ever, ever.

[687] I mean, I've had a bunch of psychedelic experiences, but the last time I did DMT was the only time where I ever was not sure what was real imagination and fantasy for about two weeks for about two weeks the world itself like as i was driving seemed malleable Like it seemed like if I concentrated on car accidents, you know, I might wind up in a fucking car accident.

[688] You know, if I concentrate on it raining out, it might rain out.

[689] I mean, it sounded completely ridiculous.

[690] I didn't believe that I could make anything happen with my mind by any stretch of the imagination.

[691] But what I also didn't believe was that reality was 100 % real.

[692] Because what happens when you have a real mind -blowing fucking trip is, first of all, you get terrified that it's that close.

[693] then all you have to do is smoke that stuff, and it's right there.

[694] I can get there in 30 seconds, a minute, and I get to some impossible place.

[695] Like if you had to journey across the earth to get to some spot in Tibet where you look into the DMT realm, you have to climb through a fucking cave and repel, and you camp out there, and it takes days, and some people die like climbing Mount Everest.

[696] But if you get there, if you get to that spot, you look out and you see God.

[697] You look out and you see God.

[698] the most purest wisdom, the most knowledgeable love, the most sympathetic voice, the most knowledge that you could ever possibly imagine coming from something in a way that's not even language, like very difficult to describe, but so intense and humbling.

[699] Man, people would take trips to go to there.

[700] It would be, you know what I'm saying?

[701] Like if there was like a guy that you could go to that would give you this feeling.

[702] But essentially, there is.

[703] And if everyone knew, if it was legal and you could go to places where they could prescribe it, boy, would that change the world.

[704] I mean, would that change the world?

[705] Would that change the fucking world?

[706] If you've seen, if people have seen what you've seen, could you imagine?

[707] A totally different place.

[708] But if you brought that up, people say, like, you're a fucking crazy person.

[709] Like, what are you doing?

[710] You're going to give people drugs, the hallucinations, and they're going to, oh, that's going to make them a better person.

[711] Well, the driving, another theory from Huxley is that the driving force behind all religion was seeking that kind of transcendental place.

[712] And people got to it through a variety of different means.

[713] He said, you know, all the chanting that you find in these mystical traditions, that raises the CO2 level because you end up breathing out more than you breathe in.

[714] when you're doing, unless you're a highly trained singer, you know, and you're expert.

[715] But most of these ecstatic chanting and yelling and all that is designed to raise that CO2 level.

[716] You breathe out more than you breathe in?

[717] How is that even possible?

[718] Just, well, in a normal breath.

[719] That defies all science.

[720] It doesn't seem like that's possible.

[721] There's no more air.

[722] Well, bro, I'm breathing now more than I'm breathing in.

[723] I'm taking air through my dickhole, son.

[724] Sounds like a rapper made that one up.

[725] Air comes through my dickhole, fills up my lungs from the bottom, yo.

[726] Well, anyway, that's how we put it.

[727] There's some ways in which you're ready.

[728] People say shit like that, man. It drives me nuts.

[729] And then you repeat it accidentally.

[730] not thinking about it.

[731] And then, you know, someone else has to come along and go, wait a minute, man, what the fuck did you just say?

[732] And then he'd go, yeah, what the fuck did I just say?

[733] God damn it.

[734] I'm just repeating some stupid shit.

[735] Somebody told me in martial arts that was always a problem.

[736] That's always a problem.

[737] Well, that could be the wrong way to go about it.

[738] But either case, he's saying that was one mild example of raising the CO2 levels.

[739] There's certain breathing exercises that certainly do that.

[740] So that does something to the air.

[741] You know, it's more carbon dioxide.

[742] So that ends up reducing that, what he calls the cerebral reducing valve that is what...

[743] keeps everything symbolized.

[744] Because that vision, what you're talking about, you're saying it's right there.

[745] It's right there because it's around us all the time.

[746] And that's why when you take something or smoke DMT, you get to it instantly.

[747] You don't have to travel to it because it's there all the time.

[748] Sort of, but isn't it possible that it's also perturbing your mind and giving your mind an excess of chemicals to deal with so it distorts your visual perception of the world?

[749] I mean, it seems to me that you have to look at every single possibility.

[750] And you have to look at the possibility that if the brain produces all these different chemicals at varying doses and we believe that it varies the doses based on stress levels wow there might be something to that there might be something to this possibility that there's a gateway but there's also a possibility that you're just getting fucked up on some wacky drug and seeing some nutty shit and it's so humbling because you don't expect it that when you come back you have like all these rationalizations and all this you know this either way if you believe it it can make you a great person It's like a lot of religions, man. I don't think there's anything wrong in Christianity.

[751] I mean, if it works for you, it works for you.

[752] I know people that it works for them, and it actually does make them a better person.

[753] And if you believe in it, it can work.

[754] It can make you a better person.

[755] And if you believe that your psychedelic experience was truly connecting with the divine, well, that can make you a better person.

[756] But it could also be your system is just...

[757] over flooded by some shit that's not supposed to be there in rocket fuel doses you know just a wash and like usually what it gets a sip of it's at the bottom of a river of you know this crazy fucking fluid.

[758] So that's, I think, that's actually, I think, a more accepted theory than Hudson's, which is that you're actually taking away your filter instead of adding something else.

[759] And he goes on to talk about, you know, probably more convincing arguments than the chanting argument, basically that there was a famous saint, the curé d 'Ars, this French saint, and he used to say that when he would flagellate himself, God would deny him nothing, and he would have access to that mystical level.

[760] That was a popular thing, right?

[761] Yeah, yeah.

[762] For people who don't know, that means you beat the fuck out of yourself.

[763] So you would do it, you know, so these long periods.

[764] Reached in and...

[765] hold a fart out or something.

[766] Oh, flatulence you're thinking of.

[767] No, flagellate is like, they used like a little whip, didn't they?

[768] A whip with either knotted leather or actual barbs on it and it would cause their back to bleed.

[769] Yeah, they would tear themselves apart.

[770] In the era before soap, that would cause, you know, first of all, the actual beating would cause a lot of adrenaline to rush through your body and histamines to rush through your body as this was going on.

[771] That in combination with the fasting that was very popular, obviously Lent, winter was kind of a forced fast and with the flagellation that caused...

[772] You know, in the era before soap, those would almost always fester.

[773] So there would be all these decomposing protein in your system.

[774] It would basically reduce your, you know, your cerebral capacity to the point where you could enter psychedelic trance states and actually commune, you know, with God underneath.

[775] Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[776] Break that shit down again.

[777] So you're saying because they were dirty, stinky people that didn't wash that good.

[778] So they didn't like scrub off the outside layer of skin, that somehow they're penetrating that would change their state?

[779] Well, this is in combination with a variety of things.

[780] So basically, the brain needs vitamins and nutrients to function normally.

[781] You go through these long periods of fasting.

[782] That was one way to reach the mystical experience.

[783] 40 days of fasting, you're basically denying your brain of all the glucose, all the vitamins necessary to function optimally.

[784] And that's when a lot of these people had visions.

[785] Well, the reason they had visions, according to Huxley, was because...

[786] Because the brain was just not able to function as its normal symbolizing cerebral nature that it does to make us all survive.

[787] So you were able to take in more of the capital M mind at large, which we call the collective now, because of the lack of vitamins.

[788] And he was saying also the flagellation usually used in conjunction with that.

[789] So you got your brain.

[790] basically running on very little little you know just trying to hang in there and then you beat yourself and then at that point you know you got you got adrenaline you got histamines and then you got festering wounds on your back that are causing more you know more kind of toxins to your brain so at that point your brain just kind of shuts off and it allows more of that mystical experience to come through wow so you beat the fuck out of yourself to achieve enlightenment after you starve yourself For a month or so.

[791] Can you imagine farts before soap?

[792] But that's how important seeking that mystical experience was to these people.

[793] They were willing to do that.

[794] How did they find out about it, though?

[795] Someone must have beat someone.

[796] Someone said, thank you for starving me and beating the fuck out of me because I learned a lot about myself.

[797] Maybe.

[798] Well, the winter was basically a forced fast.

[799] They had hardly any vitamin C during the winter.

[800] They were only able to store a certain amount of things.

[801] And then Lent, coming off winter, was also a time that caused a lot of these visions.

[802] come.

[803] And at that point, yeah, somebody maybe got taken to the whip.

[804] I mean, whipping was a common way to treat any kind of petty offense.

[805] Someone gets whipped after three months of fasting for winter, 40 days of Lent, and they get whipped.

[806] They very well may see God.

[807] And that was Huxley's idea.

[808] But he said, now at the state that we know about psychedelics, trying to get to the mystical state through that reason is like burning a house down to cook a pig.

[809] It's like you don't need to do that anymore.

[810] You can go out and you can find these tools.

[811] that were placed here on the earth to help get you to that experience.

[812] That's really amazing, and I'd never heard that before.

[813] I'd never heard that before about the flagellation and the starving.

[814] It totally makes sense.

[815] Yeah, it's interesting.

[816] But it's a crazy possibility.

[817] I've always wondered why the fuck they beat the shit out of themselves.

[818] I just figured it's like Jerry Sandusky.

[819] Like, they hate themselves.

[820] You know, do you hear one of the things that Jerry Sandusky said in one of the interviews?

[821] He said he wished he was dead.

[822] You know, he was talking to this woman.

[823] The woman was asking him, like, why he touched her son.

[824] And he said, I didn't.

[825] mean it to be that way i wish i was dead wow wow you know like that's like these guys beat themselves whips with fucking barbs that's a person who hates himself right well the guilt the guilt that was fostered by the beliefs in the time i mean would cause people to hate themselves they'd have this constant sense of gnawing guilt that they couldn't get rid of so how do you get rid of guilt well somebody has to punish you if nobody else is going to do it so you punish yourself isn't it amazing how the human mind can be programmed like that with religion or with nationalism, whether it's North Korea or whether it's the fucking Inquisition, it's amazing, really.

[826] It's amazing that human beings can all fall into a pattern.

[827] The pattern just has to be really clear and enforced and scare the fuck out of a few people while it's being enforced.

[828] And then, boom, it spreads.

[829] It's really amazing.

[830] We're so weird.

[831] We're capable of such brilliance and such beauty, but we're also so fucking dumb.

[832] We're so easy to trick.

[833] We're so easy to program and make act completely ridiculous and absurd.

[834] It's so easy.

[835] Well, I think there's a couple things that are going on there.

[836] I think there's a certain amount of people who are very easily programmable.

[837] And I've read some figures and estimations that there's 20 % of the population, like a hypnotist who brings a bunch of people up on stage.

[838] Those certain people are very susceptible to suggestions.

[839] I have to bring this up because people think I'm a dummy.

[840] I've got a bunch of tweets from people that were like, fuck you, stupid.

[841] Comedy hypnotists aren't real.

[842] I know you don't think they're real because guess what?

[843] I didn't think they're real either.

[844] When I first saw a comedy show at Stitches Comedy Club in Boston, I saw Frank Santos, the R -rated hypnotist, and I said, this is bullshit.

[845] This is so fucking stupid.

[846] This is bullshit.

[847] But it's not bullshit.

[848] It just wouldn't work on you.

[849] You, the skeptical person that's like, this is bullshit.

[850] Generally, you're probably fairly intelligent.

[851] It's not going to work on you.

[852] But if you're one of those dudes with a 9 -volt brain, there's a lot of people out there like that.

[853] You can hypnotize them.

[854] It doesn't seem like it should work.

[855] It seems completely preposterous to you or to me or to you because we couldn't be hypnotized like that.

[856] But to that dude, it's absolutely possible.

[857] And that's amazing.

[858] It's almost like there's people set up around us and we have the cheat codes for them.

[859] And you throw them into God mode.

[860] You know, like literally, like people can be hacked.

[861] That's amazing.

[862] And people know that, have been taking advantage of that.

[863] So there's that factor.

[864] There's this 20%, let's say, of people that can be basically hypnotized.

[865] They're basically walking somnambulists, you know, like able to be hypnotized easily.

[866] Is it a biological thing?

[867] I think so.

[868] I think it's just the way that their mind works in a certain way.

[869] And I don't think it's necessarily a lack of intelligence.

[870] It's just a certain circuitry that their mind works on where they're...

[871] that it goes I don't know well definitely a lack of objective reasoning sure sure that critical part of the mind is probably getting steered around for a certain you know because that hardly rational individual but their you know their emotional intelligence might be off the charts you know like they might be able to be very you know, insightful as far as, you know, their intuition and what they're able to see.

[872] But certainly there's some critical aspect that they're able to just circumvent and shut off completely.

[873] And that's, I think, obvious.

[874] But once you get that majority, let's say that 20 percent.

[875] Human beings are naturally creatures, social creatures.

[876] So if you start to see a majority, like if you start to see a bunch of people running, you're going to start jogging the same direction and be like, oh shit, I don't know why I'm jogging, but these people are fucking going and I'm out of here.

[877] So I think that's part of what happens.

[878] They get a certain minority convinced, hypnotized basically to some nonsense.

[879] And then everybody else is like, oh shit, look at all these people.

[880] They can't all be wrong.

[881] And then they hop on board as well.

[882] It's amazing.

[883] We have to fix the design.

[884] of the human body.

[885] You know, I've been saying this on stage for years, that we've got to stop having sex have to do with making babies.

[886] That's ridiculous.

[887] It should be way harder to make babies, and it should be based, you know, on...

[888] You should have to, like...

[889] Do something together.

[890] Maybe go do something.

[891] Go somewhere together.

[892] Go through a ceremony together, and then you make a baby.

[893] Or abortions have to be easier.

[894] It has to be an app on your phone.

[895] The problem with abortion is the abortion idea, it's like you've got to catch it quick.

[896] You catch it quick, and it doesn't count.

[897] It's like, well, are you sure?

[898] Is it that it doesn't count, or is it like stepping on an ant?

[899] If I step on an ant in my house, nine times out of ten, I don't even clean it up.

[900] If I step on a mouse, I've got to clean it up.

[901] You know, and basically if a mouse is the size of an ant, I wouldn't give a fuck.

[902] There's something about when things get bigger that they start becoming real.

[903] That's crazy.

[904] There's a lot of holes in that argument.

[905] It's a weird sort of an acceptance of what's essentially killing a life.

[906] If you let it go, it is going to be another person.

[907] So what you decide, and I'm not saying you shouldn't have the right to choose because you absolutely shouldn't, and I don't want to be the one that tells you what to do with your body.

[908] Don't get me wrong, but as a philosophical argument of what it is and when.

[909] does it start and when is it life?

[910] How about we just figure out a way to completely prevent it unless you want it?

[911] That seems much smarter.

[912] We should be doing that to kids at a really early age.

[913] I'm not saying we should neuter them, but we should fucking get them on birth control lickety split.

[914] Gummy bear.

[915] Give them a chance to get out of high school.

[916] When you're in high school and you're boning and you're raw dogging it and you're barely pulling out on time, that is the best time to make a person like your body's ready to go your body's young and fresh and you've got bitches are their eggs are falling into their socks you know there's so many eggs man they're ready to drop it's so easy to have a baby then and that's just the most ridiculous thing ever you know that we're set up the same way that we were set up back when it was really hard to stay alive you know our biological setup is set up Back when we didn't have houses.

[917] We were out there sleeping under the stars.

[918] One guy had to stay awake with a stick.

[919] And then we're wandering around chasing after these animals because we have to follow the herd.

[920] Otherwise we'll starve to death.

[921] God damn, man. What a shit design.

[922] The whole world has changed and we're the same.

[923] That's what's really fucked up.

[924] We and our little fucking interesting minds have figured out a way to manipulate the earth so radically that we've polluted the ocean and fucked up the air and left big fucking giant spots where no one can go for 100 ,000 years.

[925] There's a gang of them where we drop nuclear bombs just to fucking see what would happen.

[926] We had to get rid of nuclear waste.

[927] We've done this like that.

[928] We've done it so quickly.

[929] It's really amazing.

[930] But we're the same animal that we were 50 ,000 years ago, 100 ,000 years ago.

[931] That's creating so many of the problems.

[932] I mean, I think the...

[933] The guy Malthus is a, you know, politician and, you know, economist.

[934] And he basically said food production increases arithmetically and, you know, population increases geometrically.

[935] So that ultimately, you know, the way things are going, we see this in all these third world countries, you know, reproduction is far outpaced, you know, the amount of food supply and the things.

[936] And this happens at various periods in history.

[937] And so either nature is going to take care of it, either in one fell swoop through a giant famine or through disease or through the other.

[938] kind of overpopulation effects, then nature will kind of auto -correct these mistakes.

[939] Or you have to take different methods of contraception very seriously and start teaching that at an early age and putting that in people's minds from the start.

[940] And I think that's one area where we're terrible at.

[941] We don't want to talk about fucking with kids.

[942] We're still preaching abstinence, which is nonsense.

[943] That Michelle Bachman is hilarious.

[944] It is amazing that that broad is still running for president.

[945] It is amazing with her big gay husband when they run around and tell everybody not to have sex.

[946] I mean, it is really fucking funny, man. Somebody's got to follow that dude around.

[947] I mean, I can't.

[948] You know, I started paying attention to the polls.

[949] And, you know, when Ron Paul, especially when Ron Paul's ahead in Iowa right now, he's got the lead.

[950] He's number one in Iowa.

[951] And everybody's shitting their pants.

[952] But that Michelle Bachman broad, she's still in it, man. She's still in it.

[953] She's in it to win it.

[954] She's, I can't believe it.

[955] I would have thought, doesn't everybody know she's a fucking loon?

[956] Like, hasn't that been?

[957] figured out yet have you seen her husband have you seen him talk like that guy can't hold it in flowers come out of his asshole when he farts i mean he's a guy if he threw his hands up randomly in the air Glitter would just magically come out of the air.

[958] Whether it came from his skin or came from the universe recognizing the gayness that he exudes that needs to be glorified in glitter.

[959] He can create glitter.

[960] He can create glitter.

[961] He's a fucking peacock, man. He's hilarious.

[962] He's one of the gayest people to ever walk the face of the planet.

[963] At least he looks like he is.

[964] And she's running around.

[965] talking about gay marriage, and they have a Pray the Gay Away sort of a clinic where they all get together.

[966] One guy did an expose on their Pray the Gay Away clinic, and there was a guy behind him.

[967] Somehow or another, they do this thing where they all get together and they hold on to each other.

[968] And he says, the guy behind him clearly has a hard on.

[969] He's like, what the fuck are you doing, man?

[970] And these people are running for president, man. It's amazing.

[971] But she's got a lot of people that think that she can win.

[972] I mean, not enough to actually win, I don't think, unless everybody else fucks up bad.

[973] But the problem is they keep fucking up.

[974] Everybody keeps fucking up.

[975] Rick Perry is still in it, but it's just cursory at this point.

[976] It's like, what is he doing?

[977] Come on, dude.

[978] Everybody knows you're an idiot.

[979] You're done, man. You fucking can't talk.

[980] You forget shit.

[981] George Bush was way better, and people were offended by how dumb he was.

[982] Rick Perry is really fucking stupid.

[983] George Bush was better than this guy, like way better at talking.

[984] I mean, he seemed like he wasn't an intellectual, but he seemed like, especially back when he was running for governor, it seems like he put some fucking words together.

[985] This guy's an embarrassment.

[986] So it's like, who else?

[987] There's no one left.

[988] Mitt Romney and fucking the other guy with the big head.

[989] It's got to be Ron Paul.

[990] Yeah, but really?

[991] I mean, they got to let that happen?

[992] I doubt it.

[993] I doubt it.

[994] But Newt Gingrich, how hilarious is that?

[995] That's like somebody's, you know what that would be like?

[996] If Newt Gingrich would be president, it'd be like if you dated this girl and she was a cunt and her dad was a cuntier cunt, that's Newt Gingrich.

[997] You know, like if you dated a girl and she was just a fucking, she was nagging and paying the ass and then you had to go over and meet her parents and her dad is like, you better be nice to my daughter.

[998] I'll tell you that right now.

[999] I don't take any bullshit from kids.

[1000] You know?

[1001] Yeah.

[1002] You've got to deal with your dad.

[1003] He's a monster.

[1004] He's like someone's dad.

[1005] He's a monster.

[1006] Where does glitter go?

[1007] You never throw glitter away, is it?

[1008] Like, are we breathing in glitter?

[1009] Are we starting to become glitter?

[1010] It depends on where you live, Brian.

[1011] Because you have glitter on you right now.

[1012] You don't even know it.

[1013] And it's like, where does that go, though?

[1014] Does it go to glitter?

[1015] Do you see glitter?

[1016] Yeah.

[1017] Does it just fall on the ground?

[1018] It goes to strip clubs, naturally.

[1019] Where do you see glitter?

[1020] It's on your face, right below your eyes.

[1021] It's probably from my little ones.

[1022] When you have little ones and they have glitter, we're always playing with glitter.

[1023] It's always like glue and glitter.

[1024] They're always making things.

[1025] Where does it go?

[1026] It gets thrown away, I guess.

[1027] Yeah, but we're probably breeding glitter anyway.

[1028] Yeah, you might be going to die from glitter, Brian.

[1029] Don't worry about that shit.

[1030] To go back to the point that you were talking about sex earlier, because I thought about this a lot in building a society, and some of the solutions that people had to...

[1031] to the population growth problem was actually teaching a form of Tantra, which is where you withhold your seed when you're having sex.

[1032] I ain't even trying to hear about that.

[1033] In all fairness, I gave it a go, right?

[1034] Right.

[1035] And it's pretty interesting, the dynamics.

[1036] Now, I don't think I would try this personally very often, but if you created a system where you actually taught sex, and this was one of the ways you could do it.

[1037] How is Tantra any better than the pull -out method?

[1038] trust people to drive cars you know that feeling that you get it doesn't matter if you're having sex or if you're you know if you're masturbating whatever you get that feeling after you're done that's just kind of a bummer any way you look at it really it's kind of like Yeah, a little bit.

[1039] It's way better with sex than masturbating.

[1040] Like if you're using a flashlight, the feeling is like 10 times.

[1041] But even when you're having sex, it's like sometimes there's that kind of really cool, like glowy feeling afterward, I guess.

[1042] You know, I understand that.

[1043] But it kind of allows you to keep, first of all, it allows you to keep doing it like indefinitely for like a long period of time.

[1044] So you can just go to the point of climax and then you cool off, you chill out, you hang out.

[1045] And after, you know, after you do that with the person, it's not like, yeah, go get cleaned up.

[1046] We're going to.

[1047] you know, sort something else out.

[1048] You're like still in the mindset.

[1049] So you can stretch it out for these long periods of time.

[1050] It sounds like you're blue balling yourself to death, son.

[1051] You could basically occupy a massive amount of time having sex.

[1052] And it's pretty, it's pretty fun.

[1053] What if the chick gets all dry?

[1054] He's like, motherfucker, will you just come?

[1055] Jesus Christ.

[1056] You just peace out for a little while.

[1057] But I mean, that was one of the ideas that they taught.

[1058] I mean, obviously contraception is super important.

[1059] But, you know, just teaching different methods.

[1060] is going to be vitally important.

[1061] I don't think we should teach them tantra.

[1062] Fuck all day.

[1063] This is what I want you to do.

[1064] Hold on to your lows and fuck all day.

[1065] But imagine how much more entertaining that is than just fucking for five minutes and then that's it.

[1066] That's all you're done.

[1067] You get to stretch out something that's enormously enjoyable.

[1068] Isn't there a comfortable medium?

[1069] Yeah, maybe.

[1070] Yeah, fuck her and then take her out to dinner.

[1071] And always do it in that order.

[1072] You know, the worst is when you see a guy who takes a girl out to a comedy club and you know he hasn't fucked her yet.

[1073] And she's all mouthy and shit and yelling shit out.

[1074] And you're like, why is this?

[1075] I'll tell you why.

[1076] Because you didn't fuck her.

[1077] You didn't fuck her before you leave.

[1078] And that's true shit.

[1079] If you gorilla fuck a girl before you leave the house, first of all, she's not trying to draw an extra attention.

[1080] Her genetics tell her.

[1081] She's already gotten fucked today.

[1082] Chill out.

[1083] You don't need any extraordinary amount of attention.

[1084] Don't need any extraordinary love.

[1085] Settle the fuck down.

[1086] But if you don't fuck them and then you take them out into the wild and they're pumping out all those someone's going to fuck me tonight hormones.

[1087] And it might be you.

[1088] Hopefully it's you.

[1089] But if she's a crazy bitch, she's trying to see if there's another offer out there.

[1090] She's like, maybe, maybe I'm not even going to stay with him.

[1091] Who knows?

[1092] I'm funnier than him.

[1093] A lot of those effects are not only evening dependent, but whole relationship dependent.

[1094] Girls who just never properly.

[1095] Yeah, never probably got fucked.

[1096] Biologically fucked, yeah.

[1097] Yeah, or never been with a man. I mean, how many girls have you ever met that date really weak dudes because they're terrified of being in a situation where a man controls them?

[1098] Because either a man was abusive earlier in their life or they had a bad father relationship or stepfather relationship.

[1099] There's something where they shy away from any strong man, where they're literally forced to be the man in the relationship.

[1100] I mean, I know girls that are...

[1101] constantly involved in like beta men, like guys with like real issues that can never get it together.

[1102] They're always fucking falling behind on their bills.

[1103] They're always, you know, and these girls are always like nagging at them to get their shit together.

[1104] And it's this weird relationship, man, where the woman makes more of the money and the woman pays for the car and he has to borrow it from her when he wants to go out.

[1105] And it's like.

[1106] wow, it's such a clear situation to everybody else.

[1107] You see on the outside, you're like, look, this is not good.

[1108] This is fucking completely unnatural, dude.

[1109] There's a reason why she's yelling at you.

[1110] Hey, man, we're all equal.

[1111] We're all even.

[1112] It's all the same.

[1113] Who cares, man?

[1114] She makes the money.

[1115] I help out around the house.

[1116] Get the fuck out of here.

[1117] There's no way you're fucking her correctly.

[1118] You gotta fuck her like you have all the money.

[1119] That's the only way you're supposed to fuck them.

[1120] You're supposed to fuck them like you have all the money.

[1121] Daddy's gonna take care of everything.

[1122] You can't say that.

[1123] She's like daddy can't even take care of his own fucking car bill.

[1124] Oh bitch make my dick go limp and shit gets ugly.

[1125] There's some definite demasculinizing movement that has caused a whole crop of males to be pretty ineffectual I think when it comes I think a lot of it is because women have to take care of themselves and they don't want to hear your bullshit and then men want those women to like them so they become emasculated or demasculated divorce divorce is brutal that chops away a guy living with your mom at a small age you know also oh just with your mom yeah I lived with my mom and my sister it turned you into a little gay boy yeah I got to fuck with a real doll.

[1126] Well, it's not a real doll, but it's better than a real doll last night.

[1127] We had this Santa roast at Death Squad where we just roasted Sam Tripoli dressed up as Santa Claus and everyone.

[1128] And this company is called Synthetix .com.

[1129] Whoa, I'm looking at that picture.

[1130] Holy shit.

[1131] Yeah, he's this guy and his girlfriend.

[1132] Spell it.

[1133] Synthetix, S -Y -N?

[1134] S -I -N -T -H -E -T -I.

[1135] dot com and it's just him and his wife and he does everything by hand and he just sculpts these beautiful fucking like real dog type things and it would have been so perfect I wish like him and Fleshlight would team up because he has like a part of like these vaginas that you can take out and clean and stuff like that and they're kind of like Fleshlight ish but I could just imagine him putting a real flashlight in that thing because it felt real.

[1136] It looked real.

[1137] And it was so weird seeing Sam Tripoli.

[1138] Like, after the show was done, we just were all hanging out.

[1139] And Sam was just sitting there staring at it like a little kid looking at boobs for his first time.

[1140] And that's what the reaction to everybody that was looking at these things.

[1141] I didn't fuck one of these.

[1142] No. We just had a couple at the Christmas party.

[1143] How much did they cost?

[1144] About 5 ,000.

[1145] Dude, it's amazing how life like this is.

[1146] The boobs feel real.

[1147] You open up the mouth.

[1148] I mean, it's...

[1149] It's creepy when you're looking at it.

[1150] It's awesome.

[1151] This is amazing how realistic it looks.

[1152] I'm really shocked.

[1153] Yeah.

[1154] And here's me and Jade and Cole.

[1155] We were just raping this one girl.

[1156] A fake one.

[1157] Yeah, because it's cool because you just pull down her pants and look at her butthole and stuff.

[1158] And her butthole comes out so you can put new kinds of buttholes in and stuff.

[1159] It's really weird.

[1160] Wow, they have a bunch of different models.

[1161] This is crazy.

[1162] And it's cool because I got to talk to him and it's like, how do you design them?

[1163] And he's like, well, this girl started off with a photo of Megan Fox and then we took the body using this famous...

[1164] They just crushed that website.

[1165] Oh, really?

[1166] Yeah, I feel bad.

[1167] Just like that, we crushed it.

[1168] I can't even get on it anymore.

[1169] I love doing that, though.

[1170] That's fun.

[1171] I love when that happens.

[1172] But he said, if you want to do a podcast at the Ice House, you'll bring a couple of bodies so we can play around with it and we can meet them.

[1173] Yeah, tell them to get with the Fleshlight people and come up with a better cooter.

[1174] How do you clean that thing out, man?

[1175] It's not like the Fleshlight where you unscrew the bottom of it.

[1176] Well, the parts that you fuck up have like this...

[1177] pull out kind of like a flashlight and you know like a drawer on a refrigerator yeah and like the butthole comes out the next level is going to be hooking that up to a computer program where you get like some artificial intelligence he said he said he wants to take the uh put the iphone dock in the neck of it so you can talk to siri through the iphone what or through them and she'd be like hello you know whatever well you could get you could get it to the point where it was like a sexual training device yeah apparently they're going to come out with some sort of an app Apple device where Siri communicates to your phone through like something that you wear.

[1178] So you'll be doing like almost everything through Siri.

[1179] You know, this is the idea to it.

[1180] Like you'll press a button and say, Siri, what emails do I have?

[1181] And Siri, you know, as Siri gets more and more advanced.

[1182] So when whatever's in your pocket, you'll be doing everything through voice recognition software.

[1183] So Siri's going to control the robots of destruction.

[1184] So Siri will control the fuck robot.

[1185] Well, hopefully fuck first, then destruct later.

[1186] Once we realize that we're fucking their robot daughters, that's when they're going to come after us.

[1187] One thing that was funny is that his version of the pussy part, which was kind of fleshlight -ish.

[1188] Not good enough?

[1189] No, it was definitely, you could see the quality of fleshlight.

[1190] It was a billion times better.

[1191] What is it in the softness of it?

[1192] I think it uses maybe a close similar kind of material with it.

[1193] But what was different about his is that he actually, his wife or girlfriend, painted the lips a different color, kind of beat them up a little, kind of made it really realistic.

[1194] Like an old whore.

[1195] Yeah.

[1196] Like the makeup.

[1197] job they had an arm tattoo also just catching dick for decades bam bam just the entryway is all skidded like fucking like when a plane keeps coming in for a landing yeah exactly it's just skid elbowy it's like skid marks on a on a fucking pool table fear factor was awesome last night man it was really interesting to see that the the two muscle guys like there was two guys on the show like the big buff like ripped guys had such a hard time early on i was like wow those two little gay guys just beat these little muscle that's not a way to be man that's not i mean they were saying that they're agile and they move well but the bottom line is you're carrying around a bunch of unnecessary muscle that's not aiding you in your frame the way you move it requires a lot of fuel you get really tired really easily like those guys that have like when you see a guy that has extraordinary amount of muscle on them look to someone who like does jiu -jitsu or someone who does MMA you look at that guy and go how long can you last yeah you can't last all I have to do is grab a hold of you all you have to do is engage a guy like that in a fight engage him in a fight get a hold of him I mean they could be really explosive all that muscle he could really have a powerful punch you have to be like really careful but if you can get past that and somehow or another manage to get a hold of him and and you know just hang on just make him struggle to get off you and in 10 -15 seconds he's at 30 percent of what he was 15 seconds ago like literally it's amazing like there are like guys like that are always like One good exertion away from the heart fucking exploding in their chest, right?

[1198] It's like they have a computer like a Celeron 300 processor and they got it jacked up to 425 You're not supposed to be carrying around that much weight man. You're just not it's not natural It's really hard to do like you got to put a bunch of shit in your system to make yourself carry that much weight and Most of those guys are not athletic.

[1199] You know here's a question about the show.

[1200] I I don't know if you can answer this if if I caught on something but is there a uh did the Do you guys say like, hey, you guys need to just make fun of each other?

[1201] Because that chick last night was just like, you're ugly.

[1202] Your face is gross.

[1203] That's just fucking crazy.

[1204] Well, that other girl talked some shit about her eyelashes first.

[1205] The other girl opened up the gates of hell.

[1206] But once she realized, she didn't want to fuck with that girl because that black chick was mean and she was getting in her face about it.

[1207] You're so ugly.

[1208] I can't believe you're talking about my eyelashes.

[1209] You're so ugly.

[1210] She was like, you look like the evil stepsister.

[1211] I'm surprised there's not more Jerry Springer shit on that show.

[1212] Well, we keep it to a minimum.

[1213] We showed very little of that argument, but that argument was a big argument.

[1214] Oh, really?

[1215] That shit went on for a while.

[1216] I had to calm them down.

[1217] I was like, hey, come on.

[1218] Listen, you guys are saying some mean shit.

[1219] No, I shouldn't say you guys, because it was just the girl.

[1220] Because once Tonika started talking shit...

[1221] The other girl, shut the fuck up quick.

[1222] How she treated her own husband.

[1223] Well, again, the fucking water seeks its own level.

[1224] It's like we were talking about.

[1225] That's not the kind of behavior that you want to hear or I want to hear in a girl.

[1226] But for some dudes, they seek that out.

[1227] And I get it, man. I don't know if you remember the other day.

[1228] Esther gave us a bunch of those drinks, those fruit drinks.

[1229] And I had one the other day because she left one over in the fridge.

[1230] And it was an orange.

[1231] pineapple or something like that and i was drinking it and suddenly in my mouth a bug like uh like uh you know the lightning bugs what those look like the ones that aren't lightning bugs but look exactly like a lightning bug so it got in the juice it was in the juice and i was just pouring out and right there i was like about to puke like i was like i couldn't even imagine drinking a whole fucking milkshake of that shit impossible for me so yeah you wouldn't be a good candidate no and heights impossible for me Never.

[1232] You don't like to move that much.

[1233] Yeah.

[1234] So that's not good for you either.

[1235] Sleep factor, I'm on.

[1236] Fear factor, no. Sleep factor.

[1237] When you, I hate to be morose though, but when you see people get sick and you see people that are unhealthy, do you ever stop and think, man, eventually I'm going to have to quit smoking cigarettes and actually get my body in some sort of shape?

[1238] Does that ever come up?

[1239] Or are you just going to ride that bitch until the wheels fall off?

[1240] Or are you not thinking about it until something breaks on you?

[1241] Yeah, probably more of that.

[1242] I'm probably more Ralphie Maying it.

[1243] And then I'm going to be like, no more marijuana for me. I'm only eating cottage cheese.

[1244] You're just going to wait until something breaks and then you'll get super healthy.

[1245] Diet -wise, Weight Watchers, you know...

[1246] I know you don't believe this, but diet -wise, I eat really healthy, and I'm constantly, like, doing, like, juicing and making some of that.

[1247] I believe you eat some healthy things.

[1248] But then I definitely, you know, I'll have, like, an Olive Garden here or there or something like that where I'll just, you know, fuck.

[1249] I'm just eating, like, shit.

[1250] Pasta.

[1251] Yeah, or going crazy.

[1252] But for the most part, if you look at my refrigerator, it's all, like...

[1253] It's kind of like your refrigerator for the most part.

[1254] Really?

[1255] Yeah.

[1256] I mean I don't eat much though.

[1257] That's the problem.

[1258] Like last night I ate my first meal at 1 a .m. Oh, that's not good.

[1259] So your metabolism is all fucked up and you're drinking coffee during the day too?

[1260] I drink coffee and that pretty much makes me not hungry for a good five hours.

[1261] Yeah.

[1262] I think an important concept even applies to the muscle men and applies to everybody.

[1263] I actually wrote about it on the Onnit blog.

[1264] It's called Are You Fit Enough to Survive?

[1265] And I think there's an important concept in there like take away all of the… normal rules.

[1266] Let's go back to a primitive state where you have to chase food for a while, maybe run after them a few days, and you have to do certain explosive movements in a fight against an animal or another.

[1267] Before I answer your question, just take a look at that shit right there.

[1268] There you go, you're answering, motherfucker.

[1269] You're going to fall off the car first.

[1270] There's a certain amount of physicality that I think is necessary to maintain a proper mental balance.

[1271] For some folks, yes.

[1272] For other folks, I think some people are adverse to physical activity.

[1273] It reminds them of fucking gym class or whatever, and they don't like it.

[1274] But I think that, especially for men, that haunts part of their physical psyche to know that they wouldn't, on a basic primal level, be fit enough to survive in a situation where there weren't all these rules and supermarkets and laws to kind of break them down.

[1275] Unless they have mad ass burgers.

[1276] And they don't know what the fuck is going on.

[1277] They're just sitting around counting numbers.

[1278] I think everyone's bodies are totally designed different because you work out.

[1279] You feel good when you work out.

[1280] I work out.

[1281] I fucking hate it.

[1282] I've always hated it.

[1283] Even when I was a kid, I hate it.

[1284] You smoke a pack of cigarettes a day.

[1285] You eat dog shit all day.

[1286] Yeah, but even when I was a kid, even in gym class, even anything, I hate it.

[1287] Well, yeah, I think you're...

[1288] But you enjoy it.

[1289] Yes.

[1290] Well, we're very different, Brian.

[1291] I don't know if you figured that out yet.

[1292] Especially body -wise, man. I don't know how much.

[1293] I mean, look, I know that the way I'm built is a lot of it is genetics because my mom's built like me. My mom is short and wide.

[1294] My mom's built like a bulldog, man. She's not a petite lady by any stretch of the imagination.

[1295] She has these big -ass wide feet, and they're always breaking shoes.

[1296] She has all these problems with her feet because her feet were always way too wide for women's shoes.

[1297] It's good if you want, like, a sturdy, brick -carrying Sicilian.

[1298] You know, that's what my mom's probably, her genetics are really good for, carrying heavy shit around, like, back in the homeland.

[1299] But that's, like, I got those genetics.

[1300] It's real clear that if I don't work out, I don't trust myself.

[1301] I don't like the way I resolve issues.

[1302] I don't like how quick my temper is.

[1303] I don't like it.

[1304] See, that shit doesn't happen for me at all.

[1305] But then there's the nature versus nurture thing because I know a certain amount of it is biological, but a certain amount of it is also I've been feeding my body this adrenaline energy explosion.

[1306] My body from the time I was a small boy has been exploding on things, just smashing things.

[1307] When your body grows up like that and it sort of like engineers itself to perform under those balance loads, you know, under those extreme loads rather, then when it builds up for that and then when there's no load, there's no release, there's no explosion, there's no sprints, there's no smash, smash, smash.

[1308] All of a sudden you just got all this smash juice and it's not going anywhere and somebody cuts you off in traffic.

[1309] Fuck you!

[1310] I'll fucking spew my smash juice on you!

[1311] You know, I mean, there's a lot of people that you see in traffic.

[1312] man, and they're fucking freaking out and going off on someone.

[1313] A lot of those people just need a physical thing.

[1314] They need a physical thing to keep their body in balance.

[1315] The body is not even.

[1316] Everybody's different.

[1317] But for a lot of us, we're not getting nearly as much smash out as the body requires.

[1318] I really think it's everybody.

[1319] I really think everybody can benefit from it.

[1320] The human organism was designed for activity, not for sitting in front of a computer for nine hours, sitting in front of driving home and then sitting and watching TV.

[1321] We're not designed that way.

[1322] We're designed to be active.

[1323] And so to compensate, we have to create particularly intense one -hour sessions often because we are going to be sitting the rest of the time.

[1324] It's just the nature of how our jobs are.

[1325] But that physical release, I think, is important, not just for the body.

[1326] Obviously, the health benefits of the body are immense, but for the mind as well.

[1327] You know what I've been doing, man?

[1328] I've been doing light workouts throughout the day.

[1329] Instead of just one big fucking crazy workout a day, I had a back issue.

[1330] I kept getting the same muscle pull in my back.

[1331] I would let it get like three -quarters of the way healed and then jump back into jiu -jitsu class and fuck it up again.

[1332] So I had to take like a certain amount of time off.

[1333] And when I took time off, I found out there's a lot of shit that I could still do that wasn't fucking with me. So I did it like easily.

[1334] So I said, let me just – today I'm just going to do a couple sets of chin -ups and a couple sets of dips and that's it.

[1335] Let's see if that fucks with my back.

[1336] No, it doesn't.

[1337] Well, let me try it tomorrow.

[1338] I'm going to just do a – and then I started doing all these things like throughout the day.

[1339] I would do it like several times a day where I would do just a few – middle bell exercises.

[1340] And I found that I was getting less sore, but I was getting strength gains.

[1341] Because when I was doing it over the course of a few months, I was noticing that when I do these little smaller workouts, a friend of mine told me that he got the best results on his chin -ups when he would just, he installed a chin -up bar in his house, and every day, he would just do 10 chin -ups.

[1342] Every day.

[1343] Not that hard.

[1344] 10's easy.

[1345] One, two, three, do 10, and he's done.

[1346] But he did it every day.

[1347] And then he said, after a while, I could do 20.

[1348] And he goes, crazy.

[1349] It's just...

[1350] It's like your body just gets strong at doing that.

[1351] And there was never a day where he did it to failure.

[1352] He just did it to 10.

[1353] But you do it every day and your body goes, all right, we need these fucking ligaments, need more blood.

[1354] We need to thicken this forearm up.

[1355] And then next thing you know, it was almost like no pain but gain.

[1356] Those body weight workouts, a lot of people have had a lot of success with that.

[1357] I think it was Herschel Walker that did just a ridiculous amount of push -ups.

[1358] A lot of people say that Herschel Walker also lifted weights and he lies about it.

[1359] I don't know if that's true.

[1360] I don't want to discredit him.

[1361] But I do want to put that out there that I did read a lot of crazy shit that he said.

[1362] Like he only drinks like a cup of soup and a fucking loaf of – a couple pieces of bread and a salad.

[1363] That's all he eats.

[1364] And he'll eat once a day.

[1365] And you're like, okay, where's all that mass coming from then?

[1366] There's got to be numbers involved here.

[1367] There's got to be – something has to come in to fill that.

[1368] That doesn't even make any sense.

[1369] And apparently he wants people to think of himself as what he is.

[1370] He takes a lot of pride in being an athletic freak.

[1371] I mean, whatever the fuck he's doing and eating and whatever weights he's lifting.

[1372] The guy's 48 years old, and he's in amazing monster shape.

[1373] I mean, he's still like a real super athlete.

[1374] But he had like, I believe it was trauma -induced multiple personality disorder.

[1375] I believe it was trauma -induced.

[1376] I mean, from all the years of playing football, he had a lot of issues.

[1377] And I believe he wrote a book about that.

[1378] So who knows how much he remembers.

[1379] There might be one.

[1380] Herschel's just eating steak all day and fucking doing squats.

[1381] It's not Herschel, it's Herman.

[1382] Yeah, that's Herschel Dose.

[1383] Somebody's working out, I'll tell you that.

[1384] He obviously does the push -ups and the sit -ups and everything else too, but the guy's just...

[1385] He's just one of those dudes that's just in monster, monster shape, man. If he ever got into MMA when he got into football, if it was around back then, he might have been an all -time great.

[1386] It's tough to stop.

[1387] Oh, my God.

[1388] We haven't really seen that yet.

[1389] We haven't really seen a guy who's like a super...

[1390] We're seeing it in Jon Jones.

[1391] In Jon Jones, we're seeing it.

[1392] But before Jon Jones, we're never seeing some guy who just can learn shit really fast, and he's ridiculously strong, and it seems like he's just...

[1393] just has an advantage over everyone he faces.

[1394] When Jon Jones grabbed Lyoto Machida in that fucking standing guillotine, you just knew Lyoto was not getting out.

[1395] His strength, his ability to manipulate bodies, it's really freaky to watch, man. He's got some crazy ant strength.

[1396] When you see an ant pick things up effortlessly, an ant picks up a leaf, and it's like, how the fuck is that ant just picking up that thing?

[1397] If you look at the relation to its body, My God, it did it effortlessly.

[1398] More impressive to me was his Ryan Bader fight.

[1399] I mean, Bader's a badass.

[1400] He's a great wrestler, strong dude.

[1401] He beast fucks dudes.

[1402] He just throws them around.

[1403] It was impressive.

[1404] Nobody's ever even had him on his back.

[1405] I mean, has anybody?

[1406] Has everybody had?

[1407] Have you ever seen him in his guard?

[1408] At least Liotta hit him a couple times good.

[1409] He did.

[1410] That was the first time I saw that.

[1411] He could take a shot.

[1412] He took some hard shots.

[1413] Yeah, but you know what?

[1414] How about he figured out Liotta's striking?

[1415] How about that, man?

[1416] He had one tough round, and then he came back in the second round, cracked him, got him to the ground.

[1417] He cracked him with the fucking heart out.

[1418] elbow, or a punch, it was a punch or an elbow?

[1419] Well, the first one was like a left hook, I think, as Lyoto was coming in.

[1420] Cracked him and then got him to the ground, smashed him with an elbow, and that was basically all she wrote.

[1421] It was one elbow, Lyoto got up and he was dizzy.

[1422] I mean, he really said he couldn't focus, he couldn't see well, and then John got a hold of that neck.

[1423] You know, it's like, that could be, Herschel Walker could have been like one of those guys.

[1424] You know, he could, you know, there are guys out there, you know, the human body, as we were talking about before, they're not equal.

[1425] They're just not.

[1426] And some of them were getting better and better and better, you know?

[1427] Yeah.

[1428] And back in the day, someone like John Jones would have, you know, a few thousand babies because they'd be on some, you know, the top warrior in some marauding force.

[1429] You know, I read a stat that Genghis Khan, they found a certain DNA in his Y chromosome.

[1430] And Genghis Khan is related to 0 .5 % of the world's population.

[1431] Holy shit.

[1432] 0 .5%.

[1433] It's like 8 % of all the Asiatic people, but 0 .5 % of the entire world.

[1434] Yeah.

[1435] Just the amount of people that he had sex with and his descendants had sex with because the Kublai Khan then went into power and he ran the Chinese dynasty.

[1436] But that kind of effect, we won't ever see anything like that.

[1437] Will Chamberlain, 10%.

[1438] 10 % of America is Will Chamberlain's DNA.

[1439] It's crazy.

[1440] But there was something to be said.

[1441] How many people do you think Genghis Khan fucked?

[1442] He didn't even have Viagra back then.

[1443] He just did it on pure hate.

[1444] Just a hate dick.

[1445] He was planning inside.

[1446] I mean, he was trying to have...

[1447] There was no pulling out for Genghis Khan.

[1448] Yeah, he must have just shot loads in it all day.

[1449] Isn't it amazing that that's how people rolled back then?

[1450] They just made as many kids as they could.

[1451] Well, I mean, not everybody, but Genghis Khan and his boys.

[1452] We're just assuming, right?

[1453] This might be slanderous.

[1454] Pussies must be so disgusting back then.

[1455] They got the DNA test for Genghis in particular.

[1456] It probably didn't smell good.

[1457] But I think there's something to be said for that kind of phenomenon.

[1458] Because nowadays, the best...

[1459] I mean, Genghis Khan was not only physically...

[1460] unbeatable as he rose up to the tribes in the Mongol you know step in the plateau nobody could defeat him he won all his tribal battles but then as a military mastermind he was brilliant as far as what he did kind of revolutionized a lot of the theories of warfare so very intelligent very physically capable and by his you know sexual encounters, at least the genetics part.

[1461] I mean, fatherhood was a whole other issue.

[1462] And, you know, the humanity involved in all the race.

[1463] I'm sure he was a great father.

[1464] But as far as, yeah.

[1465] Probably better off than him not being home.

[1466] But as far as genetically.

[1467] And this is how strict clubs were invented.

[1468] As far as genetically advancing, you know, the genetic race probably played some positive part in that.

[1469] And that'll never happen again.

[1470] Like the geniuses of our world, like the most amazing people who could.

[1471] genetically speaking purely you know advance the human race they're not having a thousand babies anymore they're not even having ten they're having one or two you know but really probably what would be beneficial would be if they had you know tons of babies i mean that would really actually further the human race that's about the principle of sexual selection As it happens in the animal kingdom, that's how it works.

[1472] The biggest, smartest, baddest lion has the most babies.

[1473] It doesn't happen in man. It seems that as we approach some sort of a symbiotic relationship with computers and technology that's inescapable, the power of the physical becomes less important.

[1474] Sure, so it should be the smartest person.

[1475] The smartest people have to get that pussy.

[1476] The people who have the power now aren't the physically strongest.

[1477] They're the smartest.

[1478] They get the money.

[1479] You listen to Al Pacino.

[1480] First you get the money.

[1481] Then you get the power.

[1482] Then you get the women.

[1483] He didn't say women.

[1484] He said pussy, bro.

[1485] Don't ever clean that up.

[1486] Don't ever clean it up.

[1487] But you get the money.

[1488] Then you get the power.

[1489] Then you get the pussy.

[1490] What movie was that?

[1491] Scarface?

[1492] Scarface.

[1493] Didn't he say you get the pussy?

[1494] Or bitches.

[1495] I can't remember.

[1496] I've only seen that once and I've never seen it.

[1497] Then you get the bitches?

[1498] I don't usually like watching the Italian movies.

[1499] Did you say Italian movies?

[1500] Yeah, I don't really like the Italian movies too much.

[1501] Oh, Brian.

[1502] Oh, Brian.

[1503] Yeah, obviously, the smart people are not getting to breed at the same rate as Genghis Khan did, but...

[1504] I think people in general are just much smarter and much more aware and much more in tune than ever before.

[1505] But as far as super geniuses, the biological race over the technological race, it seems to me the technological is so fucking far ahead of the biological that it's almost ridiculous to assume that the biological is ever going to catch up, whether it's through natural selection or not.

[1506] It just seems like technology in the short amount of time that it's been around has achieved so much momentum and so much innovation.

[1507] It's gone so many generations and models greater than what it was when it was first introduced that it seems like inevitable that that's going to be the big tip -off.

[1508] It's going to be a technological innovation sort of a thing that changes everything.

[1509] And that the idea that the human body is going to get good enough to catch up to that, I think that's ridiculous.

[1510] I think what's going to happen is there's going to be some sort of a large -scale genetic engineering of the human body.

[1511] We're too late.

[1512] We're too late for the sexual collection to work.

[1513] We're going to be super people, bro.

[1514] We're going to be Thor.

[1515] gonna have the ability to fly but you're also creating I mean a lot of this Technology is moved by genius people, outliers a lot of the time.

[1516] We're closing down the possibilities for that genius -to -genius mating that would naturally occur to create.

[1517] That's okay because a genius can just shoot a load into a cup and make a million new people from it.

[1518] That's true.

[1519] That's true.

[1520] Maybe that's the direction it goes.

[1521] Eventually, when we figure out how the body is actually created, how organs are created and we figure out the ability to replicate them, we're going to be able to figure out the way to make a super body.

[1522] through some sort of a genetic manipulation to a person that already exists in a certain form, like in fucking Captain America, when they lock him into that tube and they zap him with all that blue shit and then ba -boom, he comes out a super person.

[1523] I mean, that's not too far away.

[1524] Don't you think that seems to me like it would be way easier to do than it would be to send picture through the air?

[1525] and have it go to someone else in Australia or China or something like that, that seems to me way more...

[1526] impossible, then you can improve a biological unit.

[1527] We understand cells.

[1528] We understand cell division.

[1529] We understand the mitochondria, the power plants of the cells.

[1530] We understand genetics.

[1531] We've sort of mapped out the human genome.

[1532] Our understanding increases, and I shouldn't say are because it's people far smarter than you or I, but those people, the people at the head of it, their understanding increases every single year.

[1533] Their data grows.

[1534] Their abilities grow.

[1535] It's going to reach some point.

[1536] Really, it seems obvious that in the future it's going to reach some point where they're going to be able to make a fucking superhuman.

[1537] Yeah, well then the moral and spiritual implications as far as whether that's a good thing or not a good thing come into play.

[1538] Yeah, it's like who the fuck...

[1539] A lot of movies have explored it.

[1540] Well, why is there a good thing at all?

[1541] Why is there a bad thing?

[1542] Why does the universe have that even as an option?

[1543] Well, it seems that you have to have it in order to inspire movement.

[1544] It's almost like you have to have tyranny to really...

[1545] come up with freedom.

[1546] You have to have people pushing you down.

[1547] Resistance from the opposite.

[1548] Yeah, exactly.

[1549] It seems...

[1550] Why else would the universe have evil?

[1551] I mean, all this stuff that exists, terrible feelings, horrible things you see, atrocities, the guy in Brooklyn who lit the woman on fire in the elevator, why do these even exist?

[1552] Why does the universe have this as an option?

[1553] If this does seem to be some sort of a mechanism or a program that's moving towards a very specific idea, or a goal, something specific is going to, there's something going on.

[1554] There's a process that the human being is involved in.

[1555] Just like bees making a beehive.

[1556] We're involved in some really super complicated process.

[1557] I think that, I agree with that, but I think that there's, you know, that's kind of looking at a kind of a linear curve of progress.

[1558] And I think there's some things missing from our evolution.

[1559] And I think our spiritual base has gotten thrown way off.

[1560] And I don't know if it's just the momentum of the religions.

[1561] Do you think it's possible that that's natural?

[1562] Do you think it's possible that this lack of connection to the spiritual was almost necessary to create this technological...

[1563] fucking bizarro world that we live in with no conscience and no thinking about the future and no planning.

[1564] It's almost like you need a disconnect.

[1565] In order for this thing to arise out of the human animal, we need to become some sort of a technological zombie that just creates and goes forth and does its bidding.

[1566] Does the bidding of the technology.

[1567] Much like those fucking mushrooms.

[1568] I think it's a cordyceps mushroom that gets inside the fucking ant's head and makes them explode.

[1569] The moth, actually.

[1570] But does it to ants, too, right?

[1571] Isn't there fungus that grows it?

[1572] There's different fungus.

[1573] That's really what it's like.

[1574] We're infected with technology.

[1575] It's almost like technology is what's keeping us from recognizing all these other spiritual realms and keeping us pushing forth in a certain direction.

[1576] Because if you think about it, without any technology whatsoever, they would never be able to stop mushrooms.

[1577] They would never be able to stop pot.

[1578] They wouldn't know where anything is.

[1579] They wouldn't be able to arrest you.

[1580] They wouldn't be able to put you in jail.

[1581] They wouldn't be able to make laws.

[1582] They wouldn't be able to communicate.

[1583] They wouldn't have the news.

[1584] There would be nothing.

[1585] There would be nothing.

[1586] So it would be impossible.

[1587] So technology allows people to be suppressed.

[1588] As much as it gives them freedom, it also allows people to be suppressed and stay zombies and keep on the task.

[1589] Keep on the task.

[1590] I wonder, man. I mean, everything else is natural.

[1591] We look at wolves.

[1592] Wolves is whatever fucked up thing they do where they push the beta male out and he's going to starve to death.

[1593] We look at it's horrible, but we also know that it's natural.

[1594] And it happens over and over and over and over again.

[1595] And there's, of course, a bunch of different scenarios that can take place.

[1596] There's a lot of different things that can happen.

[1597] But ultimately, they're moving in the same sort of a natural direction every time.

[1598] How did we not know that our lives are not exactly the same way, just far more complex and intertwined?

[1599] And we're aware of it.

[1600] So it gives us this illusion that somehow or another this is just a random series of events.

[1601] Yeah, I mean...

[1602] Obviously, that's certainly a possibility.

[1603] But I think that I do strongly believe that there were certain situations in which key people in the wrong moments and key movements in society kind of debilitated this natural spiritual flourishing that should have grown in conjunction with the technology.

[1604] Maybe technology was always destined to outpace it a little bit.

[1605] Maybe it's your job to illuminate people.

[1606] Maybe that's why you're here.

[1607] You ever thought about that?

[1608] Like this conversation is getting heard by hundreds of thousands of people.

[1609] That's like a little.

[1610] tiny spark, a little ha -choo that gets into the fucking bloodstream of the world, a little virus that spreads out there.

[1611] I think that is part of the movement for change right now.

[1612] I think we're out of balance as a society, and I think as a world, and I think we have to get back into it.

[1613] It probably is.

[1614] Our indignation is natural.

[1615] All the reaction is natural.

[1616] Me wearing a Ron Paul shirt is natural.

[1617] It's all natural.

[1618] It's a push into a certain direction, and then that's the natural moat.

[1619] you know, mode of response.

[1620] That's what it's supposed to do.

[1621] And I think it has to happen.

[1622] I mean, I think a lot of laws have to change.

[1623] Things have to be dropped.

[1624] I mean, we have shortcuts to get there.

[1625] That's the fucked up thing.

[1626] And these shortcuts grow naturally all over the world.

[1627] And they just happen to be illegal.

[1628] And we got to change that.

[1629] And we got to give people the shortcuts, but also the foundation behind it.

[1630] I mean, having somebody just saying, yeah, take mushrooms, go willy -nilly.

[1631] It's like telling someone to go into the deep jungle and not saying, hey, you got to bring mosquito repellent.

[1632] You got to bring this.

[1633] It's like saying, here's some scuba equipment.

[1634] Figure that shit out.

[1635] Yeah.

[1636] That's not a good idea either.

[1637] There's these structures in place and the shamans have had it figured out.

[1638] It's thousands of years of lineage of teaching and how to explore these realms.

[1639] Like you say, scuba gear is the perfect analogy.

[1640] Don't go deep water diving unless you know exactly what you're doing.

[1641] But if you do, you can get to these realms that give you direct access.

[1642] to god and and the reason why religions have you know pushed against that if you have direct access to the all to the universe to god whatever name you want to put on it then you don't need the priests and if you don't need the priests they have no power you know so all of these religions came up putting intermediaries in place so that they could develop these massive power structures using guilt and different mechanisms to control the people and it's uh i think we got off course and now Here's a chance to correct.

[1643] Well, that was John Marco Allegro's thoughts for the whole creation of the Bible in the first place, that it's suppression of information, that the original stories were hidden in these little tales in the Bible with all these little hidden clues, but that really what it was all about was psychedelic mushrooms, that these people were just trying to preserve this information when they were captured by the Romans.

[1644] It's fascinating if that is the root of it all.

[1645] The root of it all, just a few people trying to keep this experience, this connection to something else going, whether it's real or not, whether it's real or imagined.

[1646] Like I said, Christianity may be not real, but fucking helps you for sure.

[1647] Well, if something's going on, if it's fake, and yet it still helps.

[1648] I know a lot of people, believe it or not, they believe, and because they believe, they become better, their life's been enriched.

[1649] So that's an effective tool.

[1650] Sure.

[1651] Well, I mean, you also have to think, obviously there needs to be a place for that, and Christianity can fill it, but is it the best tool to fill that void?

[1652] Could there not be a better one to develop?

[1653] Sure.

[1654] The difference between a lot of people say, why would you talk bad about someone's ideas when it comes to Christianity, but yet you espouse all these ridiculous ideas when it comes to drugs?

[1655] Well, first of all, it's not all drugs, it's psychedelics, and second of all, Just try one.

[1656] Just take a deep mushroom trip and tell me there's not something going on.

[1657] It's really one of those things where it's a repeatable experience.

[1658] Anyone can do it.

[1659] You really can.

[1660] And then you'll understand what the fuss is all about because it's not as simple as a hallucination.

[1661] It's not.

[1662] There's definitely some perturbing of your visual senses, your perceptions of the world.

[1663] But then there's also a voice and there's a conversation with something that seems outerworldly that's communicating with you in some sort of a telepathic way.

[1664] And there's always a deep insight into how your life works and a really clear illumination of all the issues that you've got going on.

[1665] which is like, why would there be an experience that's both humbling and enlightening and guiding?

[1666] And why would there be that?

[1667] Is it just your imagination?

[1668] Really, is it that simple?

[1669] Is it that sample or is this how a life form communicates?

[1670] Well, I mean, there's two ways to look at it.

[1671] Yeah, there's the what is actually happening way, but then there's the simple pragmatic effect of how it affects people who take it.

[1672] And overwhelmingly, the people who have taken these with the right intent in the right setting have these mystical experiences that change their life for the positive.

[1673] So whatever you're accessing, pragmatically, it's a positive benefit.

[1674] It feels this.

[1675] void to find the mystic.

[1676] Obviously, myself and you believe that there is something else out there that you're accessing, for sure, and the traditions do as well.

[1677] But either way, just on a purely pragmatic approach, it's having positive benefit on a human's life.

[1678] Huge positive benefit, studyable.

[1679] Johns Hopkins University did that recent magic mushroom study that they did, improved long -term psychological health.

[1680] I mean, this is a legit university.

[1681] They're coming to this conclusion after doing tests on people.

[1682] The point there is they say they found a sweet spot where we can optimize the positive persistence.

[1683] and effects and avoid some of the fear and anxiety that can occur and be quite disruptive, says lead author Roland Griffiths, professor of behavioral biology at Hopkins.

[1684] So what he's essentially saying is what everyone's been saying.

[1685] You need a shaman.

[1686] A shaman doesn't just, like, throw you out into the fucking woods, but gives you the correct dose and allows you to achieve this state of oneness.

[1687] You know, whatever it is, this state.

[1688] Let's just call it bliss.

[1689] So we take out all the woo -woo.

[1690] Let's just call it this state of enhancement.

[1691] experience that is a psychedelic bliss.

[1692] It's bliss mixed with self -reflection.

[1693] Yes.

[1694] And critical self -reflection.

[1695] Intense.

[1696] Very fair.

[1697] Very fair, honest, and uncomfortable at times.

[1698] Sure.

[1699] And that's a hallmark of all psychedelic experiences is the personal reflection.

[1700] And eating marijuana.

[1701] Eating marijuana is one of the most personal reflecting things you can do.

[1702] That's why a lot of people hate it.

[1703] They hate when they go too deep.

[1704] When they fuck up and eat a brownie and like, you bitch.

[1705] And then they sit down and freak out about the fucking world as much as you think.

[1706] you're looking at the whole thing, I bet you're not looking at it all because you can't.

[1707] In order to get in your fucking car and get on the 405 every day and drive into downtown LA, the only way you can do that every day is if you compartmentalize your thinking.

[1708] And if you're thinking about the very structure of the universe, you're thinking about...

[1709] You get subatomic particles.

[1710] You start thinking about waves and string theory and craziness and what is cells and biology and the different organisms that live in your body and the healthy bacteria you consume and yogurt and fucking acidophilus.

[1711] What's going on here?

[1712] You can't.

[1713] There's not enough room for that.

[1714] You can't process all that shit.

[1715] So you've got to put your blinders on.

[1716] But then you eat that brownie.

[1717] It all just blasts into focus.

[1718] You feel your heartbeat.

[1719] It seems weird.

[1720] It seems tired.

[1721] The best analogy I heard was that taking psychedelics is like a banquet for the spirit.

[1722] It takes a while to prepare.

[1723] It's very rich.

[1724] It takes some time to digest.

[1725] You can't do that every day.

[1726] And what fills the void, eating dinner in this analogy, is meditation and just doing a little bit.

[1727] It could be yoga.

[1728] It could be 10 minutes in your house.

[1729] But actually finding that point of...

[1730] stillness in our lives that's dinner and then the banquet is when you get to really go into the void and bring back some knowledge and some different experience but i think that would be the one thing if we could create one rule and if i could say i had omnipotent power the one rule would be that there would be some you know shamanistic tradition that had a coming of age custom ceremony in an in the world in which when you came of age as a society you know you had a psychedelic mystical experience with a trained guide, with your peers and with your elders, and had this community experience, even if it was only just one.

[1731] So you got to experience and taste that something else that's wholly other than just yourself and kind of transcend your own ego, even for one evening.

[1732] And I think that would make single -handedly the most difference as far as change in society.

[1733] That one coming -of -age ritual in which they got to experience that, I think that would be it.

[1734] Unless someone made it like...

[1735] boot camp now you are a warrior and you fucking take your sword and go out in the world and try to fucking cut down your kingdom yeah no it couldn't be like that but the shamans don't you know they never And I wouldn't say never.

[1736] Obviously, there's different shamans.

[1737] But the tradition is not in that.

[1738] It's in transcending the ego.

[1739] And a lot of those kind of warmongering mentalities is very ego -driven.

[1740] Like, I will stomp you because I am strong.

[1741] You know, you don't get that from the psychedelic experience.

[1742] I mean, you could get that from certain mushroom experience.

[1743] Well, didn't the Norsemen?

[1744] Yeah.

[1745] They got it from Amanita Muscaria.

[1746] They would go berserker.

[1747] Yeah, you can certainly channel it into some very invincible, aggressive states.

[1748] Especially if that's like your reality.

[1749] I mean, that's what you, you know, you're.

[1750] You want Odin to guide you to victory, man. Your reality is not, there are no vacation homes for the fucking Vikings.

[1751] There is no Disneyland resort that you can take the kids.

[1752] It's about cutting people's heads off before they cut your heads off.

[1753] It's about storming the beaches and taking all the women.

[1754] That's what he wants, some mushrooms, to help him out with this.

[1755] There is no other way to live.

[1756] Were there any pacifist Vikings?

[1757] No, they didn't survive.

[1758] Conscientious, objective Vikings.

[1759] They didn't make babies.

[1760] None of that going on back then, bitch.

[1761] You're there for one reason, to make little baby Brock Lesnar's.

[1762] Yeah.

[1763] That's it.

[1764] That was the goal, yeah.

[1765] I think mushrooms in particular allow you, you know, I believe that there's kind of two energetic forces out there.

[1766] And they're not good and they're not evil.

[1767] One's just, you know, you can call it the dark or then call it the light.

[1768] But one's more really the primal side of life.

[1769] It's that kill or be killed.

[1770] It's that kind of savage animal dominant side.

[1771] And that has a certain energy that has some destruction elements to it.

[1772] But it's all, like you said, it's all part of the same thing.

[1773] And some people know.

[1774] Some people don't have it.

[1775] And some people are really.

[1776] purely intellectual.

[1777] They're not connected to the physical, but their intellectual is off the fucking charts.

[1778] I think that's also a part of this big, crazy puzzle.

[1779] There's a you, and there's a me, and there's a Brian.

[1780] It's like that old song.

[1781] It takes every kind of people.

[1782] It sounds so stupid and ridiculous and simple, but it really does.

[1783] In order to accomplish this greater goal, this bizarre, multicultural, uber -complex civilization, it really does require almost every conceivable personality all working together.

[1784] I agree, but I still think that people should strive for internal balance.

[1785] I think that leads to the biggest happiness.

[1786] Sure, especially if you're pulled towards that, if you feel like it's missing in your life.

[1787] And for a lot of people, that is the case.

[1788] A lot of people are very unhappy.

[1789] A lot of people do not feel fulfilled.

[1790] I feel very lucky that everything I enjoyed...

[1791] that I do in my life, I enjoy these things.

[1792] I enjoy every podcast I do.

[1793] I enjoy all of my friends.

[1794] Except Saturdays.

[1795] Saturdays kind of sucked, but that wasn't your fault.

[1796] Shit happened, man. You can't get Daryl Wright and a porn star in one room and expect fucking sparks.

[1797] And if you can figure out a way to do that, to find whatever it is you do that you really get satisfaction with, whether it's carpentry or whether it's painting pictures or whatever the fuck it is, that really is one of the most important things.

[1798] And then no cunts.

[1799] Have a no cunt rule.

[1800] Just no cunts.

[1801] Don't be a cunt.

[1802] Just stop it.

[1803] People get mad at me on the message board because I keep fucking pinking people and banning people.

[1804] The way my message board is set up on...

[1805] Joe Rogan .net, is there's a bunch of moderators, all of them I know personally, or at least I know them online, and they're all really cool.

[1806] And they don't want you being a douchebag.

[1807] It's really simple.

[1808] If you act too annoying, you're trying too fucking hard, you stumble in, piss off people, you get cunty.

[1809] You just get moved to the stupid room.

[1810] In the stupid room, you get a pink name, and now everybody knows you fucked up.

[1811] You either acted like an asshole, or you were rude, or you got annoying, whatever the fuck it is.

[1812] You're not being cool.

[1813] You're not enhancing things.

[1814] And for some reason, people think that you're supposed to, by giving them free speech, you allow them into your little cyber room.

[1815] You allow them to be cunts.

[1816] People have mistaken free speech for, you can be a cunt with no repercussions.

[1817] What about free speech?

[1818] It's like, this isn't speech.

[1819] You're just cunty.

[1820] You're allowed to talk, but I don't have to listen.

[1821] I shut you off.

[1822] I don't want you around.

[1823] Do you not understand that you're an unpleasant vibe?

[1824] No one's stopping you from starting your own message board.

[1825] No one's starting you.

[1826] But what they're saying is, in a cyber home, you're not welcome anymore because you're annoying because you come over and you bring a bad vibe.

[1827] And people, for whatever fucking reason, because they're so entitled with this sense of anonymity.

[1828] and this...

[1829] This unnatural way of behaving that people have because there's no social repercussions.

[1830] The norm is to be cunty.

[1831] The norm is to say bitchy shit that would make me tell you to get the fuck out of my party.

[1832] And you think you could just do that.

[1833] And they think they could just do it and get away with it.

[1834] And you're an asshole if you call them out.

[1835] Like, dude, just stop talking about me. Stop being a dick.

[1836] Go away.

[1837] Bye -bye.

[1838] Imagine having a party.

[1839] And some guy comes over and just criticizes everything you're saying and says you're half retarded and some of your ideas.

[1840] Okay, get out of my fucking house, dude.

[1841] Just go.

[1842] They don't get it, man. They don't get it.

[1843] There's other ways to communicate, you fuck.

[1844] And you're thinking that there's only one way because you've been doing it this way for so fucking long, you actually feel entitled to be a cunt.

[1845] Treat it like it's a house.

[1846] Would you come over to someone's house and you're meeting them and would you communicate with them like that?

[1847] If you would, I would kick you out.

[1848] It's really that simple.

[1849] Don't think you can come into my cyber house and not get kicked out for being annoying.

[1850] Don't make me buble you.

[1851] Oh, shit.

[1852] I just did.

[1853] Have you been buble -ed?

[1854] Is there an update?

[1855] Nothing.

[1856] I haven't seen anything.

[1857] I haven't seen anything.

[1858] They call that buble denial.

[1859] Dude, I haven't seen a goddamn thing.

[1860] It's true.

[1861] Do I say it night live?

[1862] No, I don't watch it.

[1863] You watched Fear Factor last night?

[1864] I watched that.

[1865] You saw buble 32 times.

[1866] I had to tweet it.

[1867] I was tweeting live.

[1868] Oh, yeah.

[1869] I was wondering if you were doing that.

[1870] Yeah, yeah.

[1871] Yeah, I told them I would do it.

[1872] Oh, that's cool.

[1873] It's fun, but I can't give away spoilers.

[1874] Right.

[1875] I have to make sure that everything I'm saying is like, you know, no spoilers.

[1876] Yeah.

[1877] Just got to protect information from the people.

[1878] You were watching East Coast time.

[1879] How the fuck?

[1880] Is that because you have DirecTV?

[1881] Yo, I just know shit, though, yo.

[1882] Dog, I know people.

[1883] I know to hook that shit up.

[1884] I see.

[1885] I wanted to bring something out while...

[1886] Aubrey's here.

[1887] And yes, his name used to be Chris.

[1888] If you go back and go, man, there used to be a podcast where there was a guy that looked just like that.

[1889] No second thoughts, huh?

[1890] It's actually finally gotten to the point where Chris sounds weird to me. Really?

[1891] It's not that many people that can pull off changing their fucking name and having us not make fun of it.

[1892] We had to make fun of it a little.

[1893] I guess you got a little of it.

[1894] But it ain't that bad.

[1895] I still get a few of them.

[1896] Hey, who's that girl Aubrey?

[1897] Especially in Texas, I would imagine.

[1898] Yeah.

[1899] You're named Aubrey.

[1900] Yeah.

[1901] Do you ever wear beaded bracelets?

[1902] Do you ever do that?

[1903] No, not usually.

[1904] I do have some.

[1905] You call yourself Aubrey and you have like wooden beads.

[1906] He has those shells, that shell necklace.

[1907] Oh, the shell necklace.

[1908] Isn't that a John Heffron joke?

[1909] Is it?

[1910] I don't know.

[1911] Hey, I wanted to talk because, you know, obviously we know each other originally from the fleshlight.

[1912] A lot of people might not know that.

[1913] And then we're sort of in business together and on it and making Alpha Brain and Shroom Tech Sport.

[1914] By the way, I love that fucking shroom type.

[1915] That stuff's the shit before jiu -jitsu.

[1916] It's great for working out.

[1917] Is there B12 in that too?

[1918] There is.

[1919] How much B12?

[1920] Methylcobalamin, there's like 2 ,000 micrograms in there.

[1921] That's a lot.

[1922] But the methylcobalamin is a different type of B12 than the cyanocobalamin.

[1923] Cyanocobalamin actually creates a molecule of cyanide when it's released into the body.

[1924] But methylcobalamin is called methyl B12.

[1925] A lot healthier for the body and a lot better.

[1926] But a lot of people take, you know.

[1927] Like an athlete that gets an injection, that's tens of thousands of micrograms of B12.

[1928] So it's water -soluble, releases any excess, just releases through urine.

[1929] So the body will utilize what it can and then just pee out the rest.

[1930] And the cordyceps mushroom was first used by Chinese athletes?

[1931] Is that who they figured it out first?

[1932] Yeah, first used by Chinese.

[1933] But they figured it out 2 ,000 years ago.

[1934] Cordyceps, you know.

[1935] The herdsmen in northern Tibet and China, they're in extremely high altitudes.

[1936] And up there in those altitudes, the herds and the people get very sluggish.

[1937] And they noticed that when a certain type of mushroom was available and on the ground and the herds would eat it, the herds would become particularly active and they would be moving around.

[1938] They'd have more endurance.

[1939] They'd be able to push them harder and they'd be playing more.

[1940] And so back in the day, that was your biggest cue if you were just a person kind of looking around.

[1941] So they took a look at these and they tried them themselves and found the same results.

[1942] And what we know now is that the cordyceps mushroom, it's actually a symbiont to the ghost moth, which is the host for the mushroom.

[1943] And what they believe that it does is the same thing that it does in people.

[1944] and in other animals that ingest it, it increases the oxygen utilization and cellular energy of the animal, of the moth itself, to allow the moth in this extremely high altitude plane to be able to fly better, to be able to fly longer, and actually survive and adapt.

[1945] And then when the moth dies, the cordyceps mushroom actually springs out of it.

[1946] And so the first people to discover it in form of like real athletic competition was Coach Ma and the Chinese Olympic team.

[1947] So if you take.

[1948] Shroom tech and then you die are mushrooms gonna grow your fucking head.

[1949] I'm serious Is it like those those those ants it's like those ants and fucking in the in the is it the Amazon whatever jungle it is where those those ants get infected by spores and then those spores Explode out of their fucking head and contaminate the other ants.

[1950] These are dead and dried Otherwise, you know, it could be possible.

[1951] No, it really these are dead and dried and take well if they're dead and dried then what is the the benefit?

[1952] Where's the benefit coming from it's still coming from what's inside?

[1953] the mushroom.

[1954] There's a lot of available raw adenosine, which is what is an important factor in the ATP -ADP cycle.

[1955] So don't go growing your own cordyceps mushroom and just eating them bitches.

[1956] The digestive system will kill all that anyways.

[1957] But it doesn't on ants.

[1958] It's a different mushroom for ants.

[1959] Cordyceps is only found in the high regions of Tibet and China.

[1960] And it was actually the most expensive nutritional compound in the world for a while.

[1961] It was getting up to over $20 ,000 a kilo of cordyceps mushroom at some point.

[1962] Is it because it's really hard to grow?

[1963] It's impossible to grow, really, until they could only wild cultivate it from these moths.

[1964] It was very difficult until Aloha Nutritional, the company that we get it from, Dr. John Holliday, he made some real advances in medicine that allowed him to...

[1965] cultivate it in a competitive substrate that allows the cordyceps to grow and be very effective in a in a cultivated state otherwise they had to yeah explain the competitive aspect of it because that's really fucking fascinating yeah so they grow it in like a brown rice kind of compote substrate and what they found is that mushrooms have to compete for a variety of things when they come upon a log or any kind of different environment when they're in depending on what's out there they will put out anti -competition compounds, which actually both strengthen their own species and also eliminate the other species.

[1966] So if there's a bunch of bacteria, they'll excrete certain things to thwart the bacteria that's trying to get at the decomposing log.

[1967] But if there's other mushrooms, there's certain anti -competition compounds available in those mushrooms that's going to allow the mushroom to actually thrive.

[1968] And some of those anti -competition compounds are some of the bioactive compounds that are found in the mushrooms.

[1969] Wow, that's fucking badass.

[1970] So by putting them in a competitive environment, it makes them stronger.

[1971] So in the cordyceps, you get more raw adenosine.

[1972] And the oxygen utilization is another really cool thing.

[1973] And that's very easy to test, actually, because you can actually take a mask.

[1974] And the oxygen level is normally 20%.

[1975] And you breathe it out at 13%.

[1976] And then you put the mask on.

[1977] And after taking cordyceps for two weeks, you'll come out.

[1978] And the oxygen you intake is still at 20%.

[1979] But you're breathing out at 8%.

[1980] which was one of the studies that they showed.

[1981] So that's a 50 % increase, roughly 40 % increase.

[1982] That seems like everybody would have to take it then.

[1983] Is that really possible?

[1984] That seems like too high.

[1985] I don't notice it that high.

[1986] I don't feel like it's that high when I take it.

[1987] I don't feel like I have 50 % more endurance.

[1988] Well, that's just oxygen utilization, though.

[1989] That's not endurance.

[1990] It's not measuring the actual endurance capacity.

[1991] So an oxygen utilization should be a huge part of that, though, no?

[1992] It should be a big part.

[1993] And that study's been out.

[1994] It's actually posted on the site.

[1995] Other studies have shown varying different degrees, but always oxygen.

[1996] utilization is a key and also adenosine um providing you know increased atp synthesis versus adp the biggest uh boost that i ever got endurance was when i had my nose fixed because my nose was all fucked up and broken inside i couldn't get any air through it i was a mouth breather and then once i uh got my nose fixed i was like literally like i got a 20 bump in my cardio big difference it's amazing you know that was the the most amazing obvious uh thing that i realized but this is a fucking close second When I have like real hard workouts, man, you know, especially like jujitsu class, like, you know, I rolled for the first time in a while last night and I rolled like...

[1997] you know, deep into the class.

[1998] Like a lot of times, you know, you go five or six guys and you just don't want to do it anymore.

[1999] You're just done.

[2000] But this like gets me one extra roll.

[2001] I feel like it's not easy, but it gets me one extra roll.

[2002] And at the end of it where I'm like, wow, I feel like I feel all right.

[2003] It's a hundred percent gives you a boost, but it doesn't give me that cracked out Red Bull.

[2004] There's no, there's no stimulants in it.

[2005] So surrounding the cordyceps, which is providing cellular energy versus glandular energy.

[2006] Glandular energy is basically tricking your body to.

[2007] release adrenaline.

[2008] That's what caffeine and all these things are doing.

[2009] You're basically releasing more adrenaline.

[2010] So you feel like you have energy, but your actual cells, which are still using the ATP cycle to produce energy, don't have any extra energy.

[2011] So you push harder because you think you have more energy.

[2012] And you crush your adrenals.

[2013] And you crush your adrenals.

[2014] Kevin James was told by his doctor he had to stop drinking coffee.

[2015] Yeah.

[2016] He's killing his adrenals.

[2017] Yeah, it's just pushing that button over and over again until the button just doesn't have as much to give.

[2018] The button just turns to a leathery sack.

[2019] Yeah, this is operating on a totally different mechanism.

[2020] And that's why you get that kind of physical burst.

[2021] It's subtler than people.

[2022] People who are used to taking it, oh, explode.

[2023] They might be like, oh, this shit sucks.

[2024] That's a good question.

[2025] I wanted to ask you about this.

[2026] I like that Jack 3D.

[2027] I like that stuff before it worked out.

[2028] Can I take the two of them together?

[2029] Absolutely.

[2030] There's no negative repercussions doing that?

[2031] They're doing completely different things.

[2032] Jack 3D makes you fucking, you just feel like you got some energy too.

[2033] That stuff's good.

[2034] And by the way, we have no affiliation with Jack 3D.

[2035] Use whichever nitric oxide supplement you enjoy.

[2036] of mine told me about Jack3D.

[2037] He's like, dude, I like this stuff.

[2038] When I started taking it, I was like...

[2039] Is it good for you?

[2040] Give you a little boost.

[2041] Yeah.

[2042] You know what else is great too?

[2043] Beta -alanine.

[2044] Beta -alanine, Dr. Uless told me about this.

[2045] Ulyss is a famous sports doctor.

[2046] And he said this is one of the few things that he's noticed over the past few years, supplements that he finds to be really legit as far as muscle building, muscle recovery.

[2047] He's found that he makes big gains with this stuff or quicker gains than he's used to.

[2048] And he's pretty in tune with his body.

[2049] That's another thing about this shroom tech stuff.

[2050] I think you have to be in tune with your body.

[2051] And when people ask me, hey, what should I buy?

[2052] Should I buy that shroom tech stuff?

[2053] Do you work out?

[2054] How hard do you work out?

[2055] If you don't work out really hard, save your money.

[2056] Wouldn't it be nice just for the energy, Busso, instead of having Starbucks every day?

[2057] If you're using Starbucks every day and you want that kind of energy, it's different kind of energy.

[2058] Once you start working out, that's when you really start to feel it.

[2059] Yeah, I get that Starbucks.

[2060] When you get a grande coffee at Starbucks and you two sips in and you fucking love everything.

[2061] Fuck yeah, I want to go fucking paint my car.

[2062] You get almost like a meth.

[2063] crank sort of a like really excited feeling to it you don't ever get that with shroom tech trenta oh my god that's 30 ounces yeah that's the size of your stomach dude you're gonna die i'll do one of those a day that's gonna jack your whole system man Sleep Tech.

[2064] Yeah, you must be massively addicted to that.

[2065] The other Shroom Tech product, though, everybody should definitely consider taking it.

[2066] Shroom Tech Immune.

[2067] Yeah, Shroom Tech Immune.

[2068] And what is the difference?

[2069] What's the stuff in Shroom Tech Immune?

[2070] A whole different set of mushrooms.

[2071] So from Aloha Medicinals, Dr. John Holliday, his kind of flagship product is this product called IO Immune, which takes certain elements of these mushrooms that he grows together in the substrate.

[2072] It's actually a very specific part of it, and they're called triple right -hand helix polysaccharide beta -glucan.

[2073] And what these particular mushrooms do, and they're present in chaga mushrooms in particularly strong quantities.

[2074] I take that.

[2075] And what they do is they actually trigger an innate response from the immune system.

[2076] So in the body's natural immune system.

[2077] The gut is responsible for a lot of the natural killer cells that actually fight all the pathogens and entering bacteria, viruses, cancer cells that are shed.

[2078] And what happens at an early age for us is with all the antibiotics that are in our water and that we take, we end up killing scores of these probiotic bacteria in our stomach.

[2079] They are no longer available to create the amount of immune cells that can go attack any invading pathogens that get us sick all the time.

[2080] So we're at a natural disadvantage.

[2081] And they've done a ton of studies on this IO immune.

[2082] They're using it in...

[2083] At the same time as cancer patients getting treatment for chemotherapy, at the same time that hepatitis B patients are getting treatment with lamivudine, which is a prescribed pharmaceutical viral therapy, and having dramatically positive results in combination with other treatments because it's raising the body's natural immune system.

[2084] And how it does it is these triple right -hand beta -glucan polysaccharide molecules, which are unique to these mushrooms.

[2085] They are recognized by the body as foreign elements.

[2086] And so the body mounts up their charge of innate and natural killers, these T -cells and different killer cells.

[2087] and basically builds an army to deal with this that's actually a benign threat.

[2088] So there's a cardboard army coming at them, and they have 100 nukes.

[2089] Yeah, exactly, exactly.

[2090] That's crazy.

[2091] So they're mounting, they're rallying, and they're creating more immune cells that are capable of handling actual threats.

[2092] And is that taxing on your system at all?

[2093] No. The system is supposed to have more natural killer cells in it naturally, innately.

[2094] And as I was mentioning, I think you might have been rummaging, you know, doing something.

[2095] But what happens is when the gut...

[2096] It's all that probiotic bacteria gets killed from all the antibiotics in our different foods.

[2097] We eat water and different drugs.

[2098] They're not able to produce an adequate quantity.

[2099] So we're actually at an immune deficit naturally.

[2100] Do antibiotics actually make it from a cow into your body when you eat a cow?

[2101] There's a lot of people who believe so.

[2102] Has that been proven?

[2103] I don't know if it's been proven.

[2104] That's kind of a...

[2105] But that's kind of the theory that goes on.

[2106] And I'd have to do some more research.

[2107] I would say it makes sense if you drink water with, you know, they say that there's stuff in the water.

[2108] But everybody hasn't taken courses of heavy antibiotics.

[2109] All of us have.

[2110] And when you do that, you kill the probiotics.

[2111] And what moves in instead in its place is yeast.

[2112] And the analogy that I use, it's like once you get crabgrass in your lawn, you know, you can sprinkle more seed like by taking kind of probiotics.

[2113] You can sprinkle more seed over the lawn, but it's not going to kill the crabgrass.

[2114] They take it up and occupy that.

[2115] spot so we're operating you know our natural immune cell producers are not there in the quantity that they should be that they used to be and so you know really taking these particular mushroom uh stimulators is one way that we can actually build our army back up so it can fight off not only the little things the little colds the little flus the little stuff that we just kind of deal with but also you know a lot of the big things start small you know different cells shed different mutated mated cells and a dendritic cell should be around to just say, oh, that thing's fucked up.

[2116] I'm going to eat that.

[2117] But a lot of times that doesn't happen just because we don't have the available immune innate response to challenge that.

[2118] So shrimp tech immune combines that patented, you know, that proprietary compound IO immune, which has been well studied in a bunch of the studies, combines it with chaga mushroom, which is also another great mushroom that has a lot of the same triple right hand helix beta glucans.

[2119] It also has ethyleneic acid, which comes actually from the birch tree in which it is found.

[2120] So wild heart.

[2121] harvested chaga is actually better for you than cultivated chaga there was a dude who had uh some whole video he's pushing chaga this is when i first started doing it some crazy guys tattooed all over his whole body with some weird like different inks and shit so it's a mushroom specialist but he had one he had a chaga mushroom that he's holding up and it's like this big fucking crazy looking thing man it doesn't look like a mushroom it looks weird man it looks like a hunk of a log or something right yeah it's a weird looking mushroom it is yeah grows you know only on the birch tree naturally in a while you know Mushrooms are closer to animals than they are to plants.

[2122] Yeah.

[2123] Yeah, it's a very interesting species.

[2124] It's a weird fucking thing.

[2125] It's been around forever.

[2126] The biggest organism in the world is a mushroom colony that lives in the Pacific Northwest.

[2127] Amanita bulbosa, I think, is the species name of that colony.

[2128] Is that what it is?

[2129] It covers 37 acres.

[2130] Yeah, it's a giant organism that is in the ground.

[2131] It's really nuts.

[2132] It is.

[2133] Could you imagine a 37 -acre being?

[2134] I mean, you could take chunks of it and make other beings.

[2135] You can import them other places.

[2136] But essentially, it's one sort of a being.

[2137] And it's like a network.

[2138] If mushrooms really do have intelligence, like when you eat...

[2139] There's a lot of people that believe that plants have a certain intelligence.

[2140] They just don't have the ability to communicate.

[2141] But if these mushrooms have somehow an ability to communicate because they're all connected like that and they have this intelligence, they can communicate with each other.

[2142] That's some incredible information superhighway that's in the forest up there.

[2143] It sounds very Avatar, but it's very possible.

[2144] Yeah, it does.

[2145] But look, Avatar is based on a lot of hippy -dippy, woo -woo ideas about the intelligence of plants.

[2146] But I've talked to people.

[2147] I have to research whether or not it's real.

[2148] But plants can tell when they're around certain persons who have harmed them.

[2149] If someone comes along and chops a fucking plant with an ax and that person is near the plant, you can register it on the plant.

[2150] don't know there's some interesting studies on music influencing the growth of plants like death metal versus classical real classical music yeah there's some really interesting studies on that how nobody likes even plants even plants they they live in dirt and they survive on cow but they have better taste than than death metal yeah something about that energy The alpha brain is a very fucking polarizing subject I found on the internet.

[2151] It's a fascinating thing, man. Nootropics, you know, we've been talking about nootropics on my message board for like the longest time.

[2152] And I've been experimenting with them for years.

[2153] But until we started getting in the business of actually selling them, I didn't realize how cunty people can be about these things.

[2154] But one of the criticisms, and I think there's some legitimacy to this, is the way it's marketed.

[2155] And one of the things is...

[2156] And it's not on purpose, I don't think.

[2157] I think the way you set it up was you're just trying to be enthusiastic about it.

[2158] And the problem – somebody once said that – I forget where I wrote this.

[2159] I believe I read it today.

[2160] It might have been on the message board.

[2161] But it was about a first impression that it's very difficult to take that back.

[2162] And once you create something and you put something out there and people get an idea of who you are, it's very difficult for them to correct that and normalize.

[2163] So you have to be really careful what your initial first thing is.

[2164] And one of the things that we got criticized with is this guy, Steve Novella, I don't know, some super smart dude.

[2165] Do you know what university he's from?

[2166] I thought it was Yale, maybe.

[2167] Perhaps Yale University.

[2168] He doesn't say, but essentially he's criticizing the way that it's marketed, the way that the studies were put out there.

[2169] Yeah, and I think looking at that criticism, and any variety of criticism, You have to just learn and adapt and get better from it.

[2170] And I think he you know, I think he has a very skeptical mindset, which I think in a lot of avenues is very positive.

[2171] But I think, you know, it can be overdone.

[2172] He actually runs a few shows called, you know, the skeptic, some skeptic hour or some variety of different things.

[2173] So he has that kind of framework in mind.

[2174] But, you know, some of his criticisms are fair, you know, really.

[2175] And what, you know, taking that criticism and, you know, a lot of criticism from the board that even if it's very negatively put, applying that.

[2176] has helped i believe you know us to become better at least myself as a person to become better as far as marketing that and you know there's certain areas that you got to shore up and you got to be tighter and you got to be better and really try and present information so that just people have as much information as possible can make educated decisions i mean the the many people who take alpha brain and have had amazing results you know that is you know that will be evidence for for a lot of people to give it a try.

[2177] And if they don't like it, then they can get their money back.

[2178] And they don't even have to send the bottle back in.

[2179] We'll give you your money back on your first bottle without even sending it in.

[2180] Some people have.

[2181] A lot of people have experienced positive results.

[2182] I personally experience positive results.

[2183] I use it every day.

[2184] I enjoy it.

[2185] I think it makes a difference.

[2186] When I don't take it, I feel it.

[2187] It's not a huge difference, but it's something.

[2188] It's a clarity.

[2189] I believe in it 100%.

[2190] Just like with the cordyceps mushroom supplement, I work out a lot.

[2191] I eat really healthy.

[2192] I know for the most part what's going on with my body, and I can feel differences.

[2193] I know when I'm tired because of not enough sleep, too much work, whatever.

[2194] I know when things are in sync, and when things are in sync and I've taken AlphaBrain, I feel a boost.

[2195] I feel a difference.

[2196] But other people know.

[2197] Other people, not only do they not feel something, they get sick.

[2198] I've talked to people online, and there's too many of them to ignore it, but they say it made them feel like shit.

[2199] What is that?

[2200] I think there's a certain sensitivity to Perseus serrata, which is creating an acetylcholine boost.

[2201] you know that's something that that we're addressing in in future formulas it's not it'll actually make somebody feel potentially and and this is our only you know this is our best estimation of what's happening but it seems like the case when they take too big of a dose uh the acetylcholine levels get too you get basically too high and it causes i tell people take one take one start off with one yeah it's best to be conservative i mean this is with food or without food what do you how do you recommend it i like a light meal especially if you're on uh especially if you're on taking one you know maybe a very not a completely dead empty stomach but you should if you pile it on to a giant cheeseburger you know you got so much stuff going on it's going to be very difficult and it might just get is it does it enhance its absorption using food No, it just enhances its tolerability to a certain degree.

[2202] See, it doesn't bother me at all.

[2203] I take it on an empty stomach.

[2204] Yeah, I do too.

[2205] I do too.

[2206] But it's, you know, some people that may actually enhance the effects.

[2207] So until you get kind of comfortable with it, I think definitely best to be conservative and best to take some breaks too.

[2208] You know, start with one, see how you feel, and you don't have to take it every day.

[2209] What percentage of people do you think have an insensitivity to it?

[2210] It's a very small percentage.

[2211] Very small percentage.

[2212] I mean, overwhelmingly, the response has been positive.

[2213] people all those people you know contact us for for their money back we give them their money back and it's a very very small percent i mean our that rate i would have to say is less than you know one out of every 200 but you know that it is it is definitely a bummer and it's something we want to address and at least especially by telling people to start conservative with their dosage and then taking a look at um at the huperzia serrata and we actually have you know have some things in mind for the proper you know proper balances of c huperzia serrata to gpc choline to make sure that those are going to be better tolerated throughout the future of alpha brain so You know, hopefully just like I said, you know, you learn and you try and improve and be the best product for everybody.

[2214] I think for some people, you know, it won't work.

[2215] And for some people, they may not they may have an adverse reaction.

[2216] But, you know, the overwhelming majority is spoken very positively.

[2217] And it's you know, it's great to hear that feedback from.

[2218] from their product.

[2219] There's one of the dudes who's on the message board.

[2220] His name is James MMA, very bright guy.

[2221] And he's one of the skeptics or critics.

[2222] And you had a conversation with him about, he'd asked you, how it works, improving cognitive function, like what the fuck it does.

[2223] And you said basically that alpha brain is designed to provide the precursors and raw nutrients necessary to raise levels of important neurotransmitters such as acetylcholine, dopamine, and GABA.

[2224] Now, how is that done?

[2225] What's the mechanism that allows it to raise these levels of these important neurotransmitters?

[2226] Well, it just depends on which neurotransmitter you're talking about.

[2227] But if you're talking about acetylcholine, we come at that in two fronts.

[2228] The GPC choline is one of the raw nutrients involved in the production of acetylcholine.

[2229] So by providing more of the raw ingredient, it allows the body to produce more.

[2230] And then huperziocerata is coming at a different angle.

[2231] That's actually inhibiting the amount of acetylcholine that the body breaks down.

[2232] So it's providing...

[2233] more acetylcholine from a kind of a different angle by actually creating a surplus of what you currently have rather than the GPC choline, which is creating more raw material to provide the acetylcholine.

[2234] And the other neurotransmitters fall more along the lines of the GPC choline, where you're just providing the raw nutrients to allow the body to take the steps to produce those raw nutrients and turn those into the neurotransmitters.

[2235] And this is actually another thing.

[2236] the foundation of the new mood formula, which is providing, you know, there's four major neurotransmitters as identified by Dr. Braverman.

[2237] And the other one is serotonin.

[2238] And 5 -HTP is the direct precursor to serotonin.

[2239] In the same way in that product, by providing the raw nutrient that the body then converts into serotonin, you create a surplus of serotonin without having to take any other kind of prescription drugs.

[2240] And there's actually a cool study on that front to illustrate the point.

[2241] There's actually been a bit more research on the serotonin effect because of the massive amounts of SSRI and prescription drugs in that field.

[2242] There's been a good amount of study done on 5 -HTP.

[2243] Dr. Poldinger had a...

[2244] study in 1991, where he compared 5 -HTP to fluvoxamine, which is a SSRI.

[2245] And the study showed that the...

[2246] What does SSRI stand for?

[2247] Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor.

[2248] And that's like Zoloft and Prozac.

[2249] Yep.

[2250] Paxanol.

[2251] Yep.

[2252] And basically it showed that the...

[2253] 5 -HTP dosage, which was 100 milligrams a few times a day, was equal to the fluvoxamine in efficacy, but far outpasted as far as tolerance, just because the body was able to go through its natural process and create more of its serotonin.

[2254] And the study turned out extremely positively.

[2255] The problem is that there's no patent available on 5 -HTP.

[2256] So everybody can go out and get it.

[2257] They can buy our product.

[2258] They can buy anybody else's product and get those similar effects.

[2259] I found out about 5 -HTP.

[2260] htp for my friend neil brennan and neil told me he's on it and he loves it it makes him feel good but neil's also on an antidepressant well his doctor told him to get off the 5 htp and stay on the antidepressant because he said taking the 5 htp is like taking a second antidepressant so i said to him i was like whoa have you ever thought about just taking the 5 htp is that possible because it seems like that might be the better move than to have to get a prescription for some shit and like you get 5 htp at a fucking gnc store or in the middle of Omaha, Nebraska, just show up and get, I mean, you could be on the road.

[2261] It's not like you're saddled down to a fucking pharmacy and you need to have your doctor call in a prescription during business hours.

[2262] That's annoying.

[2263] Dr. Poldinger's study shows a lot of those ancillary benefits of not taking a prescription drug versus taking the natural drug.

[2264] You can look up the results of the study.

[2265] Does it have the same effect for everybody?

[2266] 5 -HTP for everybody boosts serotonin?

[2267] It does.

[2268] Yeah, it definitely boosts serotonin.

[2269] I mean, how can you say something for everybody?

[2270] But in the people studied, in the many studies that they've done, 5 -HTP has shown a dramatic improvement in those serotonin -dependent issues.

[2271] And the new mood is mixed with L -tryptophan as well.

[2272] Yeah, L -tryptophan.

[2273] So the chain reaction goes L -tryptophan converts to 5 -HTP, and then 5 -HTP converts to 5 -HT, which is actually serotonin.

[2274] If you ingested pure 5 -HTP, 5 -HT, the body would destroy it and it wouldn't get anywhere.

[2275] But following it through the chain, the body's able to do that, especially with the help of vitamin B6, pyridoxine.

[2276] It's able to kind of complete that chain reaction of L -tryptophan to becoming 5 -HTP to becoming serotonin.

[2277] So New Mood is pretty unique in that it has both L -tryptophan and 5 -HTP as well as the catalyst vitamin B6.

[2278] So while I'd love to study this in the future, the theory behind it being that we're creating both more immediate transition between the 5 -HTP to 5 -HT and then a longer term transition between the L -tryptophan to the 5 -HTP to the 5 -HT.

[2279] So kind of providing a further spectrum along the chain.

[2280] And then we also combine it with a bunch of anxiolytic herbs, herbs that kind of relax you.

[2281] you know help you help with insomnia one of our herbs valerian actually has a similar study the study done by dr poldinger is comparing it to um an over -the -counter and not an over prescription drug called oxipasm which is in the same category of a benzo it's a benzo it's the same category as xanax and it compared valerian to oxypazin with the similar results to the 5 -htp study being that valerian had the same anxiolytic insomnia reducing effects but without the negative side effects of that so that's another powerful herb in the combination and a few others as well just to kind of ease your body into a state of relaxation and positive neurotransmitter boosting fundamentals Homeboy had another question, and this was the same dude, this James MMA guy.

[2282] I think he had a really good point about he's saying that your claim is that alpha brain enhances memory focus, mental speed, and mental drive.

[2283] And he said, can we rename mental drive to motivation?

[2284] First of all, mental drive is like, God, how subjective is that?

[2285] Who can say how you're driven?

[2286] Even if it gives you clarity, does it actually drive you?

[2287] Right?

[2288] Sure.

[2289] So he's saying, would you say that those four are all of what Alpha Brain is supposed to do?

[2290] Is there other effects of which you want your product to claim?

[2291] Okay, then I'd like to hear them as well.

[2292] All right, now he's kind of being nitpicky.

[2293] Well, the dream effect is something that a lot of our...

[2294] you know the takers really enjoy and that's caused by you know i think i mentioned this in the last time but that's caused by acetylcholine being the regulator of the rem state so with more acetylcholine you have a deeper and broader rem state and rem being the dream state you're able to access longer periods of that dreaming unconsciousness for you know so to speak and also have more of a chance of you know turning those dreams lucid because of the breadth of the dream state that you're in and also waking up during one of those states in which you will remember your dreams a lot better than if you wake up during one of the really deep slow wave non -dreaming sleeps is this theoretical or is this actually been proven As far as waking up during REM sleep, they've proven that dreams happen during REM sleep.

[2295] Right, that's what I mean.

[2296] And they've proven that when you wake up during an REM sleep, you're more likely to remember your dreams than when you wake up during slow wave.

[2297] And how does acetylcholine play into that, though?

[2298] Was it proven it has an effect on dreams?

[2299] Well, it's just that's kind of your cycles are regulated by the brain unconsciously as it goes through.

[2300] And acetylcholine is...

[2301] They found one of the triggers for actually triggering the slow wave versus REM versus interface one or two, whatever that is.

[2302] Acetylcholine is the trigger that actually triggers the length of REM sleep that you have.

[2303] So if you have more acetylcholine available, it's going to trigger a longer and deeper REM sleep.

[2304] So should you take alpha brain at night to enhance your sleep?

[2305] Does that make sense or is that bullshit?

[2306] Because a lot of people say it makes them buzzy.

[2307] yeah i wouldn't take it at night i don't think you need to take it at night i think if you take it during the day your levels are still going to be enhanced for for quite a while.

[2308] So I don't like to take it at night.

[2309] The latest I'll take it would be around three, four o 'clock, because there is a kind of a stimulatory effect from the acetylcholine as well.

[2310] And REM is not the deepest, you know, part of your sleep.

[2311] It's actually one of the lighter parts.

[2312] It's not.

[2313] So it will, you know, I do like to take it a little bit earlier.

[2314] I still get that dream kind of the wild dream boost where I'm, you know, like the other night where I was pulling a hammerhead shark out of a swimming pool and doing a variety of different crazy things.

[2315] I still get that boost taking it early in the day and I think a lot of people will as well but i would recommend that more than anything and then taking something like the new mood you would take that at night to kind of relax you and still make sure you're getting the most out of the restorative parts of your sleep as well to me it seems like well my dreams aren't so cool when i'm tired when i'm really beat down i've been doing a lot of traveling they don't they don't hit me with this big you know really uh bizarre realistic style of dreams but when i'm really well rested and i'm taking the alpha brain that's when i notice the really freaky dreams yeah that's when like they're like they're like so They're so durable.

[2316] Like in the middle of the dream, you wake up knowing that you're in the dream and somehow you stay in the dream.

[2317] I definitely find that more when I'm well -rested, when I'm healthy.

[2318] I guess then you're...

[2319] calmer i guess i don't know what it is well when you're when you're drawn down that is needy when you're sleeping yeah your body might be pushing you into more deeper restorative kind of physically restorative sleep when you're in that kind of rundown state in which case you aren't having even with the alpha brain present you aren't having that kind of length of rem and breadth of rem sleep So one of the things this guy is saying is sometimes, just as something I do know via my own studies in neuroscience, the vast majority of people do not have a particular deficiency in acetylcholine, dopamine, or GABA.

[2320] Well, there's certainly different theories on that.

[2321] I mean, I think in the optimal state of being with perfect diet, perfect sleep, good health, good workouts, and all of that, probably you're optimally functioning.

[2322] Does that mean that going above optimal functioning is okay from time to time and actually has some benefit and value?

[2323] I believe it does.

[2324] I believe you can, even if you are naturally healthy at a baseline, we're not kind of trying to cover a deficiency.

[2325] We're not trying to cure a disease.

[2326] We're trying to give people a feeling, a boost.

[2327] that can help them, you know, function and maneuver and accomplish their goals, whatever varied they may be.

[2328] So, you know, I think that, A, I do think that a lot of people are a little bit run down.

[2329] And I know I rely on Dr. Braverman of the Princeton Brain Bio Lab.

[2330] He did a lot of work there and he's doing a lot of active work now.

[2331] as the basis for kind of my thinking on this.

[2332] But he did a bunch of tests on me and I'm a fairly healthy dude.

[2333] I eat well and I do my best to stay in shape.

[2334] But all of my levels of neurotransmitters were actually depressed below.

[2335] And before I went to see him, I'd been doing a little, you know, doing a little partying.

[2336] He was in New York.

[2337] So I saw some buddies in New York, went out to the bars.

[2338] And, you know, it made sense to me that my neurotransmitters were functioning at a lower level at that point because I could feel it.

[2339] I was kind of cloudy, kind of groggy.

[2340] And he pointed to that in all of the myriad tests he did.

[2341] We did tests over five days, blood tests and different cognitive tests and different things and found that.

[2342] And I think a lot of people operate on that just by the lifestyles that they live.

[2343] They operate in this state where they're under a lot of stress and they're under a lot of different...

[2344] uh you know different things like caffeine and alcohol and these things that are causing adrenaline and different different functionality to happen so that there are more people who have at least temporary deficiencies in a lot of these neurotransmitters and then for the people who don't you know getting this extra boost might just be a little bit over the top well how many people actually get them get it actually tested.

[2345] That's why I get uncomfortable when someone says that the majority of people don't have a particular deficiency in acetylcholine.

[2346] The majority of people aren't tested for acetylcholine deficiencies.

[2347] Or anything.

[2348] The majority of people aren't tested for fucking vitamin B. How many people get blood work to check their vitamin levels?

[2349] Very few.

[2350] Isn't that the only way to tell?

[2351] It is.

[2352] And actually with vitamin D, they're finding massive deficiencies when they're actually doing large -scale testing on that.

[2353] So it is very hard to tell.

[2354] So someone saying that, that's a bullshit thing to say.

[2355] Right.

[2356] Right.

[2357] I mean, but there are certainly a lot of healthy people and they may have adequate levels, but it still doesn't invalidate the point of having an alpha brain.

[2358] I still do think that you can feel even better.

[2359] I mean, these are nutrients that are going to drive you in a certain direction.

[2360] So there's kind of both sides of the coin there, I guess, depending on how you look at it.

[2361] And here's the subtle yet cunty.

[2362] Last question that he has.

[2363] I'm curious as to why it took so long to answer this question, given that you answered questions before and I asked this one, before I asked this one and questions after, when it should be the easiest question for you to answer.

[2364] That's a cunty question, sir.

[2365] That belays, that exposes your cunty nature.

[2366] That is, and his fucking photo of, who is that guy?

[2367] What's that guy's name?

[2368] The author.

[2369] No, looks like Ben Stiller.

[2370] Sam something.

[2371] Letters to a Christian Nation.

[2372] What the fuck's the guy's name?

[2373] But he's got an intellectual.

[2374] You know, I certainly, I appreciate all the challenges that people have.

[2375] I think it's, you know, it's good to think about all these things.

[2376] And, you know, as much criticism as I get personally and as on it gets, I think ultimately if you take kind of, you know, what you may call the crunchiness out of it, there's this kind of like real.

[2377] reflection on yourself that you can take a gaze at it's like fighters who you know either you either train with people who all love you and care about you you go with savages that want to kill you and you know take your head off well you'll learn more from the savages you know you'll learn how to you'll learn different things about yourself holes in your game and weaknesses so uh you know i think actually and even talking to you it's not an easy thing to learn but learning to just take the meat of the criticism and try and not take the barbs of it, so to speak.

[2378] Right.

[2379] Well, it's hard.

[2380] I know you kind of created a lot of what the website is, but I go to the website and there's certain stuff I look at.

[2381] I'll go, this is a little fucking markety.

[2382] You know what I mean?

[2383] I will.

[2384] We'll go over it.

[2385] We'll go over it.

[2386] Because I don't personally think it needs to be that way.

[2387] I think the product stands on its own and I think the subject is very interesting.

[2388] And what I always tell people on the program is just look into Nootropics.

[2389] I mean, that's one of the reasons why I wanted to have you address some of the shit that's been said and let people know there's no evidence whatsoever that any of this stuff is dangerous, right?

[2390] No. What happened to Roll On and Roll Off?

[2391] Well, it's been kind of become a new mood.

[2392] New mood has taken over the rollover and has become a better product.

[2393] That's another part, the partying aspect.

[2394] People don't really like it.

[2395] Those are the origins of this experiment.

[2396] People, for whatever reason, you can't be a serious person.

[2397] So rollover is now pretty much the shroom tech or new mood.

[2398] And then what's roll on now?

[2399] Anything?

[2400] Roll on kind of got divided into two aspects.

[2401] It was trying to do too many things at once.

[2402] the shroom tech sport provides that kind of energy element and then the shroom tech immune provides the health element that was missed that was the second component so that's kind of been divided into two right the real problem is um a lot of people automatically assume that people are full of shit and uh when you have anything that they can criticize anything any any weakness in the link that they can point to and go oh he sells fucking alpha nails you know hey let me see your nails he doesn't have alpha nails It's totally normal.

[2403] I mean, come on, man. Alpha Nails is like a Saturday Night Live sketch.

[2404] Well, you know how that developed.

[2405] A lot of fighters wear nail polish.

[2406] A lot of fighters wear nail polish.

[2407] One of my best friends is Roger Huerta, and we were talking about it.

[2408] All of these fighters still have to go to that Sally Jensen aisle in the supermarket and buy those dainty little nail polishes.

[2409] Well, they don't really need nail polish.

[2410] They don't, but they can do it, so they do do it.

[2411] That's if they're fancy.

[2412] That's it.

[2413] Well, there are some benefits.

[2414] Some of the fighters say that they put it on their toes because if they've been stomped in the toe and their nail is going to fall off, it'll hide that potential damage.

[2415] Some people just say it.

[2416] i don't know there's a few practical reasons also that there it prevents chipping and kind of uh your nail from breaking coming apart and having really well it's kind of like putting a coat of glue over the top of your yeah i think that's why uh frank trig started using and they used to call him twinkle toes trig because he would paint up his nails to protect them.

[2417] They could use clear coat, but they don't use clear coat.

[2418] They use paint because why the fuck not?

[2419] Because they're fighters and anybody who says that they're gay or not.

[2420] But it's something that we kind of developed as a different alternative for that.

[2421] But it's funny.

[2422] People get pretty serious about criticizing all variety.

[2423] Here's some beautiful dopiness right here.

[2424] Just cuntiness.

[2425] This guy's talking about alpha brain.

[2426] He goes, if you're under 35 and you take it, you're effectively throwing your perfectly balanced neurotransmitter levels out of balance.

[2427] Hmm.

[2428] I wonder if that's in capital the reason why some people say it makes them sick or it doesn't work.

[2429] Ugh.

[2430] Just the sick, typical business tactics that virtually everyone in the industry uses.

[2431] Like you.

[2432] Dumb fuck.

[2433] Are you not listening to any of this, you fucking shithead?

[2434] There's some people it can benefit, stupid.

[2435] And if you don't like it, you don't have to focus on it.

[2436] If it's not your thing, you don't have to get into it.

[2437] But people are looking for something to point a finger on.

[2438] There's a lot of people out there that are looking to be empowered by criticizing.

[2439] Be empowered by pointing a finger.

[2440] If you don't like it, don't buy it, stupid.

[2441] And if you're under 35 and you take it.

[2442] Oh, because you've done extensive studies.

[2443] You know the exact time when people need it.

[2444] Shut up, stupid.

[2445] You're just being a cunt.

[2446] I was well under 35 when I was studied and certainly not a, not a large candidate for it.

[2447] And I was shown to be deficient in a variety of these neurotransmitters.

[2448] And I was, I promise I was, you know, as, as healthy or healthier than a good amount of people.

[2449] So will we ever see on it in stores?

[2450] Like, absolutely.

[2451] We're working on trying to get my dad on it.

[2452] Yeah.

[2453] We'll send it to him, man. I said sell it to him.

[2454] I meant send it to him.

[2455] We'll sell it to him.

[2456] Let's do that.

[2457] Get your dad's money, bro.

[2458] You used to keep on going rogue, Gary.

[2459] Dad used to come up with the money, bro.

[2460] Come on, daddy.

[2461] They'll always be the advantage of buying it directly from us because we'll be able to honor that money -back guarantee.

[2462] It'll be up to the stores if you buy it in the stores.

[2463] You need to get that on Amazon, man. Amazon's just so easy nowadays.

[2464] Like with food items, any of the grocery items, you can have it so it sets every month just to automatically send you certain items like I did with coconut.

[2465] water and stuff like that it's so nice it's like gifts every Joe I'm sorry what Brian is that you are you there anyway what do you want to talk about nothing okay good I got a fucking I got a message board filled with idiots This, why I think borrowing other comedians' jokes on stage is okay.

[2466] I should pink this guy just because it's so fucking stupid.

[2467] Either he's trolling.

[2468] First of all, I know this will be controversial, but hear me out.

[2469] I think it's okay to borrow other comedians' material because stand -up comedy is a performance art. He does it in all caps.

[2470] Why is it when idiots want to make a point and they think it's profound, they put it in all caps?

[2471] Oh, it's a performance art. Shut up, stupid.

[2472] It's a stealing joke.

[2473] It's that simple.

[2474] He's got a thing about Dennis Leary, about talking about how great Dennis Leary is.

[2475] I could hardly handle your message board anymore.

[2476] I could hardly handle Twitter anymore.

[2477] Some guy on Twitter the other day asked my girlfriend if she would like to be kidnapped and raped for a couple days.

[2478] Well, what do you think, bro?

[2479] You put it out there in the podcast.

[2480] What do you expect?

[2481] No, no, no. This is a guy that doesn't know about me or anything.

[2482] This is just a creepy guy because he does it to a lot of girls.

[2483] And you look at his Twitter and he's just like this angry, like, man, what if I drive up?

[2484] Maybe he's waiting for a chick to say, yeah, come fucking rape the shit out of me, son.

[2485] Wouldn't it be cool to have your own internet?

[2486] It's a friends list of your internet.

[2487] Well, that's sort of what it is on Twitter.

[2488] When you block somebody, you find shitheads, you block them.

[2489] of what it is with the message board.

[2490] When shitheads pop up, you block them.

[2491] What bothers me, man, is just the numbers on the message board are so great at this point.

[2492] It's gotten to such a crazy point where there's over 6 million posts on this fucking board.

[2493] 5 ,798 ,000.

[2494] That's crazy.

[2495] That's so many people.

[2496] It's so hard to keep track of everybody.

[2497] What you've got to do is just weed out the cunts.

[2498] When you find weeds in your grass, just pull them out and pluck them.

[2499] There's so many of them, and there's so many trolls.

[2500] There's so many people that are just doing it for reactions.

[2501] Even my friends, like Anon.

[2502] He trolls all the time.

[2503] And I just look at the arguments that he presents, and they're just so ridiculous.

[2504] But then he'll be in a fucking 30 -page argument, you know, 30 pages of people biting his troll.

[2505] I love that.

[2506] That's good stuff.

[2507] It's so stupid.

[2508] If you're in on it, it's great.

[2509] It's a waste, sort of, but it's a massive waste.

[2510] Maybe we should have a no -troll zone where you're not allowed to troll.

[2511] But it's also an intelligence.

[2512] Troll just tests a lot of people.

[2513] Because some trolls are so fucking obvious when people are jumping on them, you're like, God, really?

[2514] Like the one with the guy who just talked about comedian stealing.

[2515] Either he's an idiot or that's a successful troll.

[2516] He got us to talk about it.

[2517] Right.

[2518] People love that for whatever fucking reason.

[2519] All these dingbats out there love just getting someone's reaction.

[2520] I win.

[2521] You responded.

[2522] I guess I win.

[2523] What a weird way to win.

[2524] Just be a massively annoying cunt until someone calls you out on it and then...

[2525] then you go pwned.

[2526] What a ridiculous game you're playing where it's impossible for you to lose.

[2527] All you have to do is just be really annoying until someone calls you on it, and then you're a winner.

[2528] Talk about setting the bar low, man. I mean, is that like the lowest bar ever?

[2529] All you have to do is be enough of a shithead that somebody points it out, and then you're a winner.

[2530] Everybody's going to have to be their own fucking name soon.

[2531] That's going to fix everything.

[2532] That's one of the things with Twitter that somebody pointed out that's a really good point.

[2533] I said, most people on Twitter, look at your fucking name.

[2534] Boom, there's your name.

[2535] Most people have Joshua, blah, blah, blah.

[2536] They have their fucking name on their Twitter page.

[2537] Somehow Facebook just added my fucking phone number.

[2538] I didn't put my phone number on my Facebook.

[2539] And the other day, somebody's like, why do you have your real phone number on your Facebook page?

[2540] And I'm like, are you fucking serious?

[2541] And it's like my app or my iPhone must have done it or something.

[2542] Wow.

[2543] You might want to check that shit, man, because I didn't do it.

[2544] I don't have my phone on anything.

[2545] That's ridiculous, though.

[2546] Yeah.

[2547] And then like this Twitter shit, like the location, it's set to default like on the other day.

[2548] And I'm like, great.

[2549] I just told everybody where I live.

[2550] Yeah.

[2551] You know, remember I got hacked.

[2552] My Twitter got hacked and they were saying something about join a contest, win an iPad 2.

[2553] They got Lady Gaga.

[2554] Lady Gaga sent out a tweet to like 100 million people, whoever the fuck she's got on her Twitter page, about an iPad 2.

[2555] Wow.

[2556] Because apparently Lady Gaga does her own Twitter, and everybody likes to know that, which I do too.

[2557] I'm not comparing myself to Lady Gaga.

[2558] No one can compare to you, Joe.

[2559] No one can compare to Gaga.

[2560] They can do that somehow or another.

[2561] They get into your account.

[2562] I don't know what you have to do, but there must be some legal way they're doing it because it can't be as simple as they get your password because they don't seem to be sending a bunch of other shit out with it.

[2563] It's just this one tweet that keeps repeating about sign up for an iPad 2.

[2564] That seems the one that everybody gets ganked with.

[2565] Well, that's a money market thing.

[2566] They probably just have the most machines.

[2567] pointed at hacking and how do they do that how are they getting are they getting your past password generators probably is that what it is full -time see the password generators and you click on a link and you're not logged in and you log in by mistake like a Someone hits you with like a keystroke tracker or some other more devious virus like that.

[2568] But usually it's just kind of password generators.

[2569] That's why having complicated passwords are important.

[2570] Are those that common keystroke generators?

[2571] Like is that what happens?

[2572] Like say if someone, if you get a virus, what will happen is like if you go to somewhere and use a credit card, it'll like store that information.

[2573] Oh, yeah.

[2574] Yeah, it records everything you do.

[2575] Kind of like that droid shit.

[2576] IQ client, whatever it was.

[2577] Yeah.

[2578] Have you seen that shit?

[2579] They found out there was some sort of, what is it, IQ client?

[2580] Is that what it is?

[2581] ICQ client.

[2582] There was a program they found running in the background of droids that was storing every single stroke that you made, every number that you dialed, every word that you sent a text message, and sending it to a database somewhere.

[2583] That's no good.

[2584] Yeah, and there's some giant class action lawsuit, man. It's nuts, man. Yeah, you got to watch out for these different things as technology expands.

[2585] But I don't know.

[2586] It's difficult to fight.

[2587] Yeah, except you have to at least be in it a little.

[2588] I was talking to my sister yesterday because she's like, should I get an iPhone?

[2589] I'm like, yes, just get an iPhone.

[2590] They're like, well, T -Mobile is saying I could have this free MyTouch 3G or whatever.

[2591] I'm like, seriously, get off of T -Mobile, go to Verizon, get an iPhone or whatever.

[2592] She's like, are you sure?

[2593] And then she's like asking me these other questions about technology.

[2594] Some people love droids, though.

[2595] Yeah, yeah, I know.

[2596] Is that okay?

[2597] Yeah, yeah.

[2598] But she was asking me these other questions of technology around her house.

[2599] And she goes, how much would I have to pay just to get Wi -Fi in my house?

[2600] Is it like $70, $80?

[2601] I'm like, what?

[2602] And she's like, she thought you had to pay $80 a month just for Wi -Fi.

[2603] And so I had to explain to her how no Wi -Fi is just a box that hooks up to your internet that you already have.

[2604] And so for, what, 10 years?

[2605] She hasn't had Wi -Fi because she thought it was like $70 a month.

[2606] Why didn't she ask somebody?

[2607] I don't know.

[2608] I don't know.

[2609] I don't know, man. That's just a thing on your sister.

[2610] I don't think you could use that.

[2611] No, I mean, but there's a lot of people that are like that that refuse.

[2612] Yeah, refuse to.

[2613] And my sister's younger than me. I'm like, you should be more of a computer than me. Hip to this shit.

[2614] Yeah.

[2615] You're totally out of it.

[2616] She hasn't had a smartphone.

[2617] She's still on a flip phone, you know?

[2618] Wow.

[2619] And it's just like, come on, you're a younger girl.

[2620] Well, some people don't want any more distractions in their life.

[2621] They don't want to be able to watch TV on their phone.

[2622] Right.

[2623] For some people, it's porn.

[2624] Some dudes have a problem with porn on their phone.

[2625] I was reading about this.

[2626] Like, guys have, like, fucking gigs of porn on their phone.

[2627] Esther has porn on their phone.

[2628] Really?

[2629] Yeah, she used to.

[2630] Ew.

[2631] Sometimes it's grosser when it's a girl, especially the little one like Esther.

[2632] Just thinking about her, just shoving things in there.

[2633] So as we bring this fucking odd podcast home, we never really did figure out a way to fix this situation.

[2634] We flirted with it, but we didn't drive at all.

[2635] We danced around it and we just gave it, ew.

[2636] We gave it the date that's looking around for another person to take care of it.

[2637] Yeah, well.

[2638] I think the number one thing that's going to happen is some of the people that are in power have to slowly die off.

[2639] They have to get old and pass on.

[2640] And then the young people have to move into a position of power where they kind of grow up with the Internet and they grow up with a better understanding of how they're perceived and how the world works and how things don't have to be as greedy and fucked up and corrupt as they are.

[2641] Halliburton didn't have to make that much money.

[2642] Enron didn't have to make that much money.

[2643] So much of what happened didn't have to happen.

[2644] So much of the money that changed hands.

[2645] and so much of the transactions that transpired, they weren't necessary.

[2646] It got too crazy.

[2647] And I think...

[2648] the upcoming generations will see that that will be historical i think we're seeing it now and i think that you know this this talk of the return of quetzalcoatl the new type of man that's gonna change things i think really what that may be is just the movement and i think we're all part of that that kind of new person that's arriving that new consciousness that's creating itself and i think there will be leaders that will emerge from that movement but the movement itself is what's key and i think all of us who are you know playing our our part kind of expanding you know what we're open to in our beliefs and both riding that balance between skepticism and an open mind you know have to be you have to have both and you have to have have that kind of truth seeking aspect to yourself to know you know find the ways between that sylla and cherybdis of of the skepticism and the you know too open and naivete and and find where the truth lies and i think that's uh that's going to be the key key trait of what we need to do here going forward.

[2649] And that's going to create the movement that will inspire the leaders, hopefully.

[2650] I just hope it stays together in some form.

[2651] I hope we don't have to rebuild civilization because that would fucking suck.

[2652] Because I live around too many dummies.

[2653] There's just too many dummies out there to just rely on the people that are at hand right now and have some sort of an even vote and have everything work right.

[2654] It's just we're not prepared.

[2655] We're like little children tossed into the woods.

[2656] Right?

[2657] We're not prepared to be running shit.

[2658] God damn it.

[2659] Kids keep it together to a certain extent, people.

[2660] Gradual would be better than severe.

[2661] Yes, we don't need anything fucking traumatic.

[2662] But the more we do preemptively, like the more you go out there and push aggressively now, the better that's going to be.

[2663] If we just kind of let things happen, that snowball comes crashing hard.

[2664] But if we're out there pushing now, like we're doing here on the podcast, playing our small part, everybody else playing their small part, open their consciousness, open their friend's consciousness, and find that truth, then...

[2665] Hopefully, it'll fall a little less hard when it actually comes to Crash.

[2666] Listen, Aubrey, you got a lot of haters on my message board.

[2667] One of the reasons is because you changed your fucking name to Aubrey.

[2668] The other is because you're a little bit too handsome, and dudes don't like that.

[2669] It makes them uncomfortable.

[2670] Then there's all the marketing stuff, but people always ask me, why am I involved with you?

[2671] Why am I involved with this?

[2672] Because I know you, and I know you're a really good dude.

[2673] You're 100 % legit.

[2674] The reason why I'm involved with you is because you're that guy.

[2675] You're 100 % legit.

[2676] A lot of people are skeptical, and I totally understand that.

[2677] I give you the stamp.

[2678] I give you a stamp of approval.

[2679] You're an exceptional human being.

[2680] I appreciate it.

[2681] Every time we talk on the podcast, I enjoy the fuck out of it.

[2682] I enjoy hanging out with you.

[2683] It's always cool.

[2684] Thank you to everybody for tuning in.

[2685] We appreciate you, even the fucking haters.

[2686] As we said, without you, we would not have that harsh, brutal criticism that sometimes makes you really see things from...

[2687] A different perspective.

[2688] Thank you to The Fleshlight.

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[2694] It's legit.

[2695] I know you're going to masturbate.

[2696] You know you're going to masturbate.

[2697] I didn't say that that smoothly, but we know what the fuck I'm trying to cross.

[2698] Thank you to Onnit .com, O -N -N -I -T.

[2699] If you go to JoeRogan .net, click on that link for AlphaBrain, enter in the code name Rogan, get 10 % off, or don't.

[2700] Do you not understand?

[2701] Our life is not dependent on you following it.

[2702] You don't have to listen to me. Don't get crazy, though.

[2703] Don't get upset.

[2704] Settle down.

[2705] If you're interested in nootropics, please Google them, read up on them, educate yourself.

[2706] If you can't afford what we're selling, but you're interested, buy the shit in bulk and make your own.

[2707] Copy our formula.

[2708] We really don't care.

[2709] And if you don't like it and you buy it from us, you get a 100 % money back guarantee.

[2710] We can't make it easier, bitches.

[2711] It's impossible to make it easier.

[2712] I'm trying to make it as easy as possible, you fuck.

[2713] Settle down.

[2714] Keep it together, bitches.

[2715] We're all in this together.

[2716] And shit has just started.

[2717] to get strange ice house this friday the 23rd right we're doing a show and this will be our second anniversary we are number one on the comedy section of itunes right now praise odin thank you to everybody who tunes in and you know the the thing about the itunes that's the most satisfying to us is that everybody told us that you shouldn't have your shit on Stitcher, you shouldn't have your shit on Ustream, you shouldn't have your shit on Vimeo, because then it'll affect your iTunes numbers.

[2718] The fact that we have the number one podcast in the comedy section of iTunes on top of all that other stuff that we do, having it out there in the app, having it as an RSS feed, just means that you guys are enjoying it, and that means the fucking world to me, and I could not be happier.

[2719] We love doing it, we're never going to stop doing it, and we're never going to start charging money for it.

[2720] It's always going to be free.

[2721] Thank you, bitches.

[2722] We love you, and we'll see you soon.

[2723] Listen to the Josh Gross interview.

[2724] People have to know.

[2725] Josh Gross, is that his name?

[2726] From ESPN.

[2727] We just released that episode yesterday on the Death Squad label.

[2728] It's very interesting.

[2729] We talked to him a little bit about how he can't say that he smokes weed and that he fucked up when he released the information for The Ultimate Fighter.

[2730] Which I think that's just stupid.

[2731] I agree that's a spoiler move.

[2732] That's like going, hey, Bambi's mom died.

[2733] Come on.

[2734] Don't be like...

[2735] Yeah, there's a fine line between a journalist and a spoiler.

[2736] Yeah, I don't know.

[2737] I see where his point of view is.

[2738] I disagree with it, though, as far as that goes.

[2739] I don't want to know the fucking results.

[2740] Like I told you, I could find out who won.

[2741] I could find out who won every season.

[2742] I go through the whole process like everybody else does.

[2743] you sneak peeking bitches.

[2744] All right, this podcast is fucking over.

[2745] Thank you very much.

[2746] We already did that.

[2747] Did we?

[2748] Yeah, we did it.

[2749] No, I didn't know fleshlight.

[2750] I thought you were on it.

[2751] No, we did both of them, bro.

[2752] You're out of it, man. You need some alpha brain.

[2753] You need some memory fucking electrodes or some shock therapy.

[2754] I've been eating my fleshlights and fucking my alpha brains by mistake.

[2755] Oh, one notification for those who couldn't get the product in Europe.

[2756] We're coming up with a formula that's going to be able to cross all the different borders.

[2757] What is the holdup in Europe?

[2758] Where is it illegal?

[2759] Different random things.

[2760] Some of it's even vitamin B6 is illegal in a couple of places.

[2761] Really?

[2762] Ireland, vitamin B6, they don't want you healthy, lad.

[2763] They want to keep you in a dark and fucking pale and angry and drunk and fucking your government.

[2764] Fucking get in there, asshole.

[2765] Thank you very much.

[2766] That was the worst Irish accent I think I've ever done.

[2767] We'll have some out here for you.

[2768] Partial Gaelic, and there was a little Australian thrown in there.

[2769] Fucking show's over.

[2770] Good night.

[2771] Good night, everybody.

[2772] Bye.

[2773] Love you.

[2774] See you.

[2775] See you soon.

[2776] Goodbye, everybody.

[2777] Much love.