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[0] The Biden administration's prosecution of a Texas doctor who blew the whistle on transgender procedures being conducted on children in the state has sparked accusations of political and ideological persecution, and some lawmakers are now getting involved.
[1] In this episode, we talk with a U .S. congressman from the state of Texas, Republican Dan Crenshaw, about what actions he and his colleagues are taking on the issue of child transgender medical procedures and what they say is the weaponization of the federal government.
[2] I'm Daily Wire Editor -in -Chief John Bickley.
[3] It's Saturday, June 22nd, and this is an extra edition of Morning Wire.
[4] Joining us now is Republican Congressman Dan Crenshaw of Texas.
[5] Congressman, thank you so much for coming on.
[6] Let's start with the prosecution of Dr. Eton Heim.
[7] He worked at the Texas Children's Hospital in your district.
[8] He's being prosecuted after blowing the whistle on the hospital because it was continuing to perform transgender procedures on children, and that came even after the Texas AG said, that practice is dangerous.
[9] You believe this is a political prosecution.
[10] Why?
[11] Well, I believe it's political because it's such an unusual case for the DOJ and HHS.
[12] It's unusual to bring somebody up on criminal charges for HIPAA violations.
[13] And if you look at what they're really charging him with, it's a stretch to say it's even a HIPAA violation.
[14] So they're charging him for unlawful access to the database.
[15] But of course, he has access to that database.
[16] based to patient data.
[17] He did not release any personal information on those patients.
[18] He anonymized any data that he released.
[19] So you have to squint really hard to see this as a HIPAA violation and to justify federal agents arresting him for doing this.
[20] This is the kind of thing where you might think Texas Children's might have a civil case against him for it.
[21] And they go to the courts as such, and there might be a fine involved, right?
[22] That's what you would normally expect from this, but these are criminal charges being brought against him for accessing a database that he is a perfectly lawful access to.
[23] And of course, it's political because this is such a politicized topic.
[24] This is the topic of affirmative transgender care on minors.
[25] It's pretty contentious.
[26] I've noticed because I've introduced legislation in the Congress and watched my, even my most moderate, reasonable Democrats throw their hands up like crazy people and argue with me that it should be okay to do a double -emisecting 9 -12 -year -old girl just because she thinks she's a boy.
[27] So hyper -politicized.
[28] And we've seen the Biden administration prioritized this issue in a way that we've never seen another administration do.
[29] What do Republicans need to do if they want to counter the Democrat agenda on this?
[30] Conservatives need to fight back against it.
[31] Now, in Texas, we have.
[32] Now, shortly after this whistleblower blew the whistle on Texas Children's Hospital, Texas passed SB 14, which prohibits this practice entirely.
[33] Okay, then there was no question.
[34] After that, I think it can be said that all the hospitals in Texas stopped doing these procedures because it was made in law.
[35] Prior to that, and what Dr. Heim was referencing when he blew the whistle, was an opinion from the attorney general.
[36] So the attorney general issued an opinion, which is a fairly normal thing to do.
[37] saying, look, we've looked into this.
[38] Our interpretation of the law based on child abuse law says that you cannot do this practice.
[39] So hospitals are taking a risk at that point if they move forward because they could be prosecuted by the Attorney General because he's made it clear what the interpretation is of that law.
[40] And then again, shortly afterwards, the law was made extremely clear.
[41] You cannot do this in Texas.
[42] And then we have the Title IX changes from the Biden administration, which do directly address gender identity and make this something for all public funded educational programs.
[43] Yeah, that is another great example.
[44] And I have a new daughter now.
[45] She's nine months old.
[46] And God help the people that try to put a boy in whatever sport she wants to play.
[47] There's not enough wrath for them.
[48] We have to fight this.
[49] And the public is on our side.
[50] The public is on our side on all of these issues.
[51] You know, we saw Washington Post a survey some time ago that asked the public, Like, do you support puberty blockers or hormone therapy for minors for gender transition?
[52] They didn't even ask about surgeries, by the way.
[53] Just asked about those two things.
[54] 70 % said no. This practice of affirmative gender care is being rolled back in Europe.
[55] They're seeing that the data just doesn't add up.
[56] The recent systematic review by Dr. Cass from the UK really was the kind of the final nail in the coffin on this practice.
[57] it just showed after reviewing all of the data and all of the studies and all of the methodology behind each study, that this practice just doesn't come with any benefits, but it does come with enormous risk.
[58] And that's a really big problem.
[59] It's huge long -term physiological changes.
[60] And if we can't even point to any benefits from doing so, then we've got a real problem on our hands.
[61] Indeed.
[62] I want to talk about some of the actions you've taken related to this.
[63] So first, you sent a letter to Attorney General Merrick Garland in Health and Human Services Secretary Javier Becerra demanding all documents regarding the prosecution of Heim.
[64] In the letter, you say the prosecutor did not even review the evidence before considering him a target.
[65] Is that true?
[66] That's true as far as we know.
[67] So that's from Dr. Heim's lawyers.
[68] And I don't think they would make that claim if they didn't have some sort of proof about it.
[69] Again, showing how politicized this is.
[70] I mean, they see a case like this.
[71] They say, let's go.
[72] Let's go.
[73] Boom, boom, boom.
[74] They start shooting in the air and hooping and hollering and driving off into the sunset.
[75] So that's yet another reason we think this is politicized.
[76] This kind of thing should not be done lightly.
[77] Do you expect Garland to actually cooperate?
[78] He's been pretty uncooperative so far with Congress.
[79] Do you feel like he's going to stonewall again?
[80] Absolutely.
[81] I don't expect real answers to this.
[82] They're going to come back and claim.
[83] If they even bother to respond, they'll come back and claim.
[84] They'll come back and claim.
[85] that it's an active investigation and that they can't be possibly sharing records or any information about it.
[86] So another piece of legislation I have, which I think would be quite helpful in this, and I've been urging the speaker to take it up because it's already passed out of our committee.
[87] My legislation would actually prohibit funding the children's hospitals around the nation.
[88] Pribit funding specifically for GME, which is graduate medical education, which basically funds their residencies.
[89] It's a federal program that helps fund residences in hospitals.
[90] Good program we all like, but I don't think you should have access to that kind of federal money if you are engaging in child abuse and bullying parents into transitioning their kids.
[91] And again, the public is well behind us on this.
[92] So I want to have that debate on the floor and get that moving.
[93] And that would block funds from going to that program if you did that if you promoted transgender treatments and procedures for children.
[94] Right.
[95] Your access to that federal money would be contingent on whether or not you perform those kind of procedures.
[96] Final question.
[97] We've seen quite a few seemingly political prosecutions by government agencies against Trump and many of his attorneys, John Eastman, Rudy Giuliani, and even peaceful pro -life objectors.
[98] What do you make of what Jim Jordan calls a weaponized government?
[99] Well, look, I mean, we even created a subcommittee on Jordan's Judiciary Committee to deal with this called the Weaponization of Government Select Committee.
[100] So obviously it's something we take seriously as Republicans, and we're not crazy.
[101] Look, I'm the first call out my own side when people are overreacting or going down some rabbit holes.
[102] They shouldn't go down.
[103] But this isn't really one of them.
[104] There is a list of these prosecutions, and they are out of the ordinary.
[105] We obviously just talked about this one, which is simply out of the ordinary.
[106] Anything wildly out of the ordinary in the court of law?
[107] You should be looked at with some skepticism, and you should note that there might be political bias.
[108] there.
[109] The charges against Trump.
[110] I still haven't heard one real good lawyer actually come out and say, no, these are actually real charges.
[111] You know, these are, somebody else might get charged with this kind of thing.
[112] Nobody has said that.
[113] Everybody knows they're bogus.
[114] And the list goes on and on.
[115] And it's ironic because the Democrats are constantly wringing their hands and clutching their pearls.
[116] They're probably donated to them by rich people at Hollywood.
[117] And they're constantly bringing their hands about, you know, the threats to democracy.
[118] Well, one of the greatest threats to democracy is the upending of the sanctity of our judicial system.
[119] You know, if you don't believe that you can get a fair shot in the court of law, you do start to lose your democracy.
[120] That's a huge part of our social contract, of our nation's fabric that holds us together, this idea that there's due process, that if you make the right arguments and you show, show the right evidence that you can prevail, if that turns out not to be the case, you've got a very, very serious problem on your hands, just from a basic civics perspective.
[121] Well, a very troubling prospect, no doubt.
[122] Congressman, thank you so much for joining us.
[123] Yeah, I appreciate it.
[124] Thanks for having it.
[125] That was Congressman Dan Crenshaw, and this has been an extra edition of Morning Wire.