02-21-25 Parkland Father Ryan Petty and Paul Markel for a mini AAR Roundtable

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[12] Greg in Dallas, Texas.

[13] How are you doing, my brother?

[14] Yeah, not too bad.

[15] The cold's still here.

[16] We're at 32.

[17] It's pretty cold.

[18] Well, thanks for that.

[19] It's been one of those days.

[20] I'm not in a good mood.

[21] Angry Mark might very well come out today.

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[28] Count them.

[29] Two and two.

[30] That sounds like we got a double hitter there.

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[32] Yeah.

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[46] Stay on that dump switch, Greg.

[47] I'm in a mood.

[48] I'm in a mood.

[49] All right.

[50] I'm warning you right now.

[51] I have no idea what's going to come out of my mouth today.

[52] Let's start with Paul Markle, student of the gun.

[53] How are you doing, brother?

[54] Oh, I'm great.

[55] I wanted to go on record that Mark is the one who always tells me to be FCC friendly.

[56] Yeah, yeah, he does.

[57] Reminds me. Put that on record.

[58] And it's also 39 degrees in the mountains.

[59] So am I warmer than you?

[60] You are.

[61] Oh, hold on a second.

[62] Hold on a second.

[63] Definitely warmer than Dallas.

[64] Yeah, I was looking at the stock market today.

[65] That didn't help my mood.

[66] Let's look at the weather today.

[67] It's 46 here today.

[68] Low of 17.

[69] Ouch.

[70] Yeah, 25 low tonight, 29 tomorrow.

[71] Sunday going into Sunday, 32, 38.

[72] Come on, Greg, man. Send us some weather.

[73] Would you please?

[74] Hey, bro, this is going to be the worst of it.

[75] You just got to get through it.

[76] Okay.

[77] Parkland dad, Ryan Petty, down in Florida, where I don't know what the weather is there, but I guarantee it's better than it is here.

[78] How you doing, Ryan?

[79] Welcome in.

[80] I'm doing well, Mark.

[81] Yeah, it's warmer here.

[82] I'm not going to say what it is because it just makes everybody mad at me. Go ahead.

[83] Just go there.

[84] All right.

[85] So I'm freezing, but it's 67.

[86] Paul, did you want to say anything before I get going here?

[87] No, we don't have any mosquitoes.

[88] Or alligators.

[89] Or alligators, right?

[90] That counts for something, no doubt about it.

[91] So, okay.

[92] All right.

[93] Well, it's Friday.

[94] Let's talk a little Kash Patel.

[95] And, Paul, I'm going to start with you.

[96] Kash Patel is going to come in to Washington with a wrecking ball.

[97] What do you expect to see from him?

[98] I don't.

[99] Quite frankly, I don't have any expectations because we've been, you know, when they say that you're on the floor, the only place direction you have to go is up.

[100] The only direction you have to go is up.

[101] Yeah, the only direction you have to go is up, you know, when you're in the basement.

[102] And I think that's where we are with the government right now.

[103] I mean, I guess it could have been worse, you know, if we got that moron and if they installed the moron as president.

[104] But I think just about anything he does is going to be good.

[105] And this continuous exposure, what I see every day, and I'm sure you guys are seeing it too, is that those who are our intellectual enemies are exposing themselves on a daily basis, on an hourly basis.

[106] I was going to say hourly is more like it.

[107] It's more accurate.

[108] By the minute.

[109] And that's great.

[110] I want them to.

[111] I want them to rail against this exposure of the largest.

[112] Can we say?

[113] that the United States government has probably committed the largest fraud in the history of mankind when it comes to dollars.

[114] I mean, when you add it up in the trillions, the trillions of dollars are fraud.

[115] Yeah, I think that's fair.

[116] I think that's fair.

[117] And I think cash is going to come in.

[118] Look, they're more scared.

[119] Ryan, jump in.

[120] They're more scared of Cash Patel, I think, than they are of Donald Trump right now.

[121] Would you agree with that?

[122] I do, because you've got Doge and Elon Musk over there exposing the grift that has been foisted upon the American taxpayer for decades now.

[123] It's getting exposed.

[124] It's becoming transparent.

[125] People are waking up and understanding what's been happening.

[126] And now you've got Kash Patel, who's...

[127] I hope we'll take a similar wrecking ball to the FBI.

[128] Mark, you and I have had a number of conversations about the ineptitude and the wrong focus that the FBI has had.

[129] You know, the month, actually two weeks before Parkland, two weeks before my daughter was killed, the FBI was hosting a DEI event in the Miami field office.

[130] Instead of processing the two tips that they got that could have stopped Parkland from happening, they had a DEI event, which Christopher Wray was part of and came down for.

[131] And that's where the FBI's priority was.

[132] It wasn't on public safety.

[133] It wasn't on preventing needless, senseless violence.

[134] It wasn't on locking up maniacs.

[135] It was on making sure we had diversity hires at the FBI.

[136] And I'll never forgive the FBI for that.

[137] No, and nor should you.

[138] Guys, I hate all of them.

[139] I'm just going to come out and say it.

[140] When I see people like Swalwell stand up and lie to the camera, when I see any Democrat at this point stand up and lie to the camera, I just, honestly, I don't like the way I feel about it.

[141] I don't like feeling that way about it.

[142] But, Paul, you're spot on.

[143] It is the biggest fraud.

[144] ever perpetrated, you know, let's just keep it here in the U .S., certainly in the history of this nation.

[145] And I cannot imagine what our founders would be thinking if they were witness to this, what's been going on in Washington, D .C. Oh, I can't.

[146] There'd be a lot of oak trees with a lot of hemp hanging from them.

[147] Yeah, you're probably right.

[148] A lot of tar and feather buckets going on.

[149] A lot of hemp, a lot of oak trees.

[150] Yeah, it is.

[151] You know, Mark, I've got a shirt that I like to wear around, and it's a picture of George Washington on it.

[152] And next to it, it says, meat would have been stacking bodies by now.

[153] Yeah, I think, Paul, I've heard you say that before.

[154] Oh, yeah, our founders would have been, you know, they'd be like, what do you think the founders would have done?

[155] Like, I don't have to think about it because I studied history.

[156] I actually studied history, unlike most Americans.

[157] And I know what they would have been doing.

[158] You've got to put this in perspective, too.

[159] Before the formation of America, correct me if I'm wrong, every other nation on Earth until America was born was run by a dictator.

[160] Oh, yeah, they just had different names.

[161] Kings are, you know, whatever.

[162] Yeah, and what's happening is a travesty.

[163] And when you see, it's very difficult to look at people who you know have been fleecing.

[164] You individually, ladies and gentlemen, as a taxpayer, you individually as a taxpayer and the nation as a whole, and therefore the world, quite frankly, when you're the most powerful nation on Earth, it all rolls downhill.

[165] But the hatred I have for these people is just incredible at this point when they can stand and look at a camera and actually tell you that they're upset about the grift, that we're finding it.

[166] And I think, Ryan, that tells you everything you need to know.

[167] about the character of these people, the disease they suffer from mentally.

[168] They're all busted.

[169] And, again, that's why they fear Cash Patel.

[170] Cash is going to come in here and take care of business.

[171] And I don't think he's going to lay down, Ryan.

[172] I think he's going to go straight up gonads to the wall, I think.

[173] Yeah, and I think for Cash, fortunately, as with Donald Trump, the second term, right, it's personal.

[174] Look, Donald Trump loves this country.

[175] We know that.

[176] And he's going to do whatever he can to restore this republic to what it should be.

[177] And I and I have faith that he's going to do that.

[178] I think he's taking this term, the second term, very differently than he took the first term.

[179] I think he realizes that there are the folks like the Swalwells and the others that are there for the grift.

[180] I mean, just what public servant.

[181] It should be worth hundreds of millions of dollars after only having, you know, having a salary of, you know, $175 ,000 a year or whatever it is they have.

[182] None of it makes sense except for they figured out how to fleece the taxpayer and how to funnel dollars back into their pockets.

[183] For Cash Patel, I think it's personal because they came after him too.

[184] And no doubt about it, when we come back, we're going to continue the conversation on Friday.

[185] We've got a lot to cover with you.

[186] We'll get to as much of it as we can.

[187] That's usually the equation.

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[191] Welcome back to the show.

[192] Yeah, welcome back to the show indeed.

[193] Man, when it rains, it pours, Greg, in Dallas, Texas.

[194] Of course.

[195] It just does.

[196] A lousy day begets lousier day.

[197] And I don't mean from personal things, just a lot of crap going on.

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[206] Paul Markle, student of the gun.

[207] Welcome back in, brother.

[208] How you doing?

[209] Oh, just just dandy.

[210] Just dandy.

[211] Handy, dandy, peachy.

[212] Oh, yeah.

[213] Ryan Petty.

[214] Welcome back, Ryan.

[215] How are you, man?

[216] As well as can be expected, but I'm happy it's Friday.

[217] OK, so we knocked out a little bit of the FBI.

[218] And I think we're all in agreement here that cash is going to bring a wrecking ball.

[219] So having said that, let's move to ATF.

[220] 30 GOP senators, guys, have signed a letter asking or urging, asking.

[221] Urging is just asking a little bit more sternly.

[222] I want to see demand, but urging the ATF to rescind its regulatory gun controls implemented under Biden.

[223] Paul, I'm going to start with you.

[224] What are the odds that they will react?

[225] positively to 30 GOP senators urging them to rescind their regulatory gun controls that they put in place over the past four years.

[226] You think that's going to happen?

[227] You think the ATF is just going to go, okay?

[228] No. No, they're not going to willingly do anything.

[229] You need to start putting them in jail.

[230] You need to start charging people, and you need to take their money away.

[231] Take away their money, and then we should not, our senators, shouldn't go one day further without an investigation about the murder of the gentleman in Arkansas.

[232] I'm sorry, his name's escaping me right now.

[233] Yeah, the airport executive director there.

[234] Yeah.

[235] We're just going to let that go?

[236] We're going to let go that the federal government organized the just straight -up assassination of an American citizen over nothing?

[237] Well, we let Vegas go.

[238] We let Vegas go.

[239] If a sheriff would have done that.

[240] And this thing, as someone who is local law enforcement, I realized a long time ago that there's a big difference between feds and state and local.

[241] For instance, the murderers that killed Randy Weaver's son and his wife, they would have been in prison if they would have been municipal police officers.

[242] If they would have been sheriff's deputies, they would be in prison.

[243] But because they had federal badges, they got to walk free.

[244] Hey, they got gold watches.

[245] We can't pretend like we have a representative republic as a United States of America when federal agents can just fly around the country and kill citizens for nothing.

[246] Well, there's been no accountability.

[247] It's not just him.

[248] I mentioned Vegas, no accountability.

[249] I could go on down the list.

[250] I'd go Waco.

[251] You go Ruby Ridge.

[252] We can go to every one of the FFLs that had their licenses taken, their livelihoods destroyed because of the regulatory burdens put on them by a rogue ATF.

[253] Ryan, you're an FFL holder.

[254] You're very familiar with the shenanigans going on at that rogue agency.

[255] We're on that rogue agency, right?

[256] Okay.

[257] Ryan, look, here's the deal.

[258] We don't have an acting director right now for the ATF yet, so nothing is going to happen.

[259] They're going to ignore everything coming at them.

[260] And even if we do put in a quote -unquote 2A -friendly director of the ATF, which I feel certain Trump will eventually do, You've got career bureaucrats and bureaucrats in there that are just not going to move in the direction Trump wants to move, and they're proving that now in other agencies, Ryan.

[261] Why should we be optimistic?

[262] This is where I'm hoping maybe Cash jumps in or maybe Bondi jumps in and starts putting some teeth into this stuff and ending these people's careers, getting rid of them once and for all and jailing some of these people.

[263] Ryan.

[264] Look, let me give you a reason to be a little bit hopeful, Mark.

[265] I don't know if you saw this.

[266] It flashed this afternoon across my screen on Twitter, but the general counsel for the ATF, Pamela Hicks, she tweeted today, or as she put it out on Facebook or LinkedIn, one of those places, but she said, earlier today I was served official notice from the Attorney General of the United States.

[267] that I was being removed from my position as the chief counsel of ATF and my employment with the Department of Justice terminated.

[268] Pam Bondi looks like she's taking action against some of these rogue folks.

[269] And I'll guarantee this Pamela Hicks being the chief counsel at ATF.

[270] Nothing that they did in their regulatory schemes to try to.

[271] uh hurt legitimate ffls and and to go after legitimate uh law -abiding gun owners nothing that the atf did wasn't approved by you know by this pamela hicks so getting rid of somebody like pamela hicks and getting her off the payroll and getting her out of government is a step in the right direction it gives me a little bit of hope that they a understand the problem b they started to take names and three they're going to start firing I don't think I'm alone here in what I'm about to say, but I'm sick of holding on to hope, Paul.

[272] I'm ready to see some action.

[273] Now, I know Trump's been in office a month and he's been working at blazing speed, just, you know, lightning speed.

[274] I get it.

[275] I know he's got a full plate.

[276] And I'm hopeful that my wish to start holding some of these these very bad people accountable.

[277] And I don't mean civilly.

[278] I mean criminally eventually comes to fruition.

[279] And I'm hopeful that that will happen.

[280] And I feel much better about it with cash at the helm of FBI.

[281] But, you know, I'm ready.

[282] I'm ready to see it.

[283] And like I think millions of Americans, I don't think I'm alone in that.

[284] I'm ready for it yesterday.

[285] Right.

[286] You too.

[287] Well.

[288] My curiosity is, Pete, so why are all these scumbags that these scumbag liberals still in the United States, the ones who promised to leave?

[289] And weren't we flooded with tweets and this that all these federal employees that would refuse to work for Cash Patel, they're going to refuse to work for Donald Trump.

[290] They're all going to quit.

[291] Quit.

[292] Leave.

[293] Yeah.

[294] Well, it's customary, Ryan, as you know, for a president to come in and fire prosecutors.

[295] you know, from the other administration.

[296] That's customary.

[297] We see that.

[298] I don't know.

[299] I don't know that we'll ever go far enough, at least for my satisfaction, Ryan.

[300] And, you know, that's just me. But I don't know that we'll go far enough for that.

[301] Do you think we will?

[302] Hopefully one day soon, maybe we will see accountability from these scumbags who have wrecked this country.

[303] Yeah.

[304] I don't think they're ever going to go far enough, Mark, but I like this first move.

[305] What I would like to see also Pam Bondi do and the DOJ do is go back through her emails and find out if she broke the law.

[306] And if she did break the law in these schemes, then she should be prosecuted.

[307] All right, we'll be back right after this break.

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[309] We're talking with Paul Markle, student of the gun, and Parkland father Ryan Petty.

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[324] Ryan Petty down in Florida at 67 degrees.

[325] I love you, but I hate you, but I love you.

[326] You know what I mean.

[327] I'm sorry, Mark.

[328] I can't control the weather.

[329] I miss home.

[330] I do.

[331] I miss Florida.

[332] I really do.

[333] boarding up my house and all that stuff and fleeing anymore.

[334] I'm kind of tired.

[335] Paul Markle, student of the gun.

[336] How you doing, brother?

[337] I'm great.

[338] And you know what I don't miss about being in the South?

[339] What's that?

[340] I don't miss how everything molds and mildews and rusts.

[341] Yeah, I had that problem in a roof, in my roof not too long ago with that.

[342] Mold, mildew, rust.

[343] Yeah.

[344] That's because it's hot and humid, you know.

[345] That's right.

[346] It's dry up here.

[347] You can put stuff in your garage and it doesn't rot.

[348] Well, you know, you need some food supplies up there because you actually do have a ranch and you're kind of remote out there.

[349] So get some Heaven's Harvest food.

[350] We'll send you some.

[351] So, guys, Colorado.

[352] Now, I want to give you listeners just preface this.

[353] We're going to have Amanda Harden and possibly.

[354] One more guest joining us for a mini roundtable in the second hour of Sunday's broadcast coming up to talk about what is going on in Colorado.

[355] It is unbelievable.

[356] And I want to tie this to the assault weapons ban Fourth Circuit case today.

[357] It is now 435 on the East Coast.

[358] If you're listening to us live, if you're catching us on a delayed broadcast, the Supreme Court conference has already ended.

[359] So, Ryan, I want to take this to you first, and we'll circle back to use Jen Psaki's famous phrase to you, Paul.

[360] Ryan, I'm going to tie both of these together because the ban that is moving through Colorado is egregious, to say the least.

[361] It essentially bans, well, an entire class or classes of semi -automatic firearms, including many handguns that are in absolute common use.

[362] Now, here's how we tie this together.

[363] We are hopeful that we will find out on Monday, maybe the latest on Tuesday, the absolute latest Wednesday.

[364] I think we'll know Monday, quite frankly.

[365] That's been the MO over the last four conferences here with the Supreme Court.

[366] But I feel pretty good that the Supreme Court is going to wind up taking the Maryland Fourth Circuit case.

[367] That ties into Colorado because it deals with gun bans of commonly owned firearms.

[368] Of course, in this case, assault weapons.

[369] But that is what Colorado is describing, including the pistols using the descriptions that they're currently using, which will make it if they take it, we feel confident, Ryan, that we will win the case.

[370] It won't happen overnight.

[371] But Paulus in Colorado has designs on furthering his political career.

[372] So if he knows the Supreme Court is going to take that Fourth Circuit case, is he smart enough to understand, well, I'm not going to sign this gun ban if I want to run for Senate or higher office down the road, including president?

[373] Is he smart enough to figure that out?

[374] And do you see the tie in that I'm referring to here between the Snopes case, which.

[375] independently has nothing to do with Colorado, but you see how it does.

[376] Am I on the right track here, do you think?

[377] Well, I hope you are.

[378] I'm not a lawyer, and I don't follow the Supreme Court that closely, but we're getting legislatures across the various judicial districts in the country.

[379] that are way out of line from where they should be, we know, from Bruin, right, and just common sense, first of all.

[380] And it's very likely that we're going to see different districts with different rulings, and the Supreme Court's going to have to go.

[381] It's almost as if they're waiting for this sort of to brew and boil over, and then they'll take the case.

[382] Now, I wish they'd take the cases now and just say, you guys didn't.

[383] Maybe I'm just impatient, but maybe you didn't understand this with Bruin.

[384] This stuff is all unconstitutional.

[385] Stop doing this nonsense.

[386] But I understand the judiciary works differently, and they'll sort of wait until it all percolates up.

[387] And then at some point, I'm hopeful they'll take the case and make it definitive.

[388] But that won't stop the gun grabbers.

[389] from trying everything they can.

[390] This is never going to stop until the people of Colorado and the people of Maryland and everywhere else stop electing these clowns.

[391] Paul?

[392] Yeah, amen to that.

[393] And we need to start, we have to have a hard conversation with ourselves.

[394] Is the United States Constitution the, quote, supreme law of the land?

[395] Is it or is it not?

[396] And there are some people in the Democrat Party that apparently don't believe that it is.

[397] Now, they believe that it is when they want to hold on to it or when they want to use it as a hammer to club their opponents.

[398] But the fact of the matter is, when you have legislators who are plotting and scheming to circumvent or to violate, let's just go ahead and say violate, the actual law, they know what the law is.

[399] And their plot or their plan is to violate the law.

[400] How are they not we were not holding people responsible.

[401] See, that's that is why all this nonsense happens, because it goes right back to the ATF and the FBI.

[402] You know, let's face facts, you know, for the for Waco, for Ruby Ridge, it was the ATF and the FBI holding hands as they killed American citizens.

[403] We don't hold people responsible.

[404] We don't hold them responsible for their behavior.

[405] And when we don't hold these people in Congress, Senate, the governor seats, they're not held responsible.

[406] They're like, well, we can just do whatever we want.

[407] No, you can't.

[408] Now, going to the larger, broader problem that we have is that the Democrat Party discovered a long time ago, if they can pile a bunch of of their sycophants up into major metropolitan areas that they can control the states.

[409] The larger problem is the fact that what we have is a, basically going back to 1775, we have taxation without representation.

[410] Look at Illinois, look at Michigan, look at Colorado.

[411] The people in western Colorado, northern Colorado, even southern down, you know, like formerly Mexico, Colorado, generally are very conservative type people.

[412] And their state has been stolen from them by criminals in the greater Denver area, you know, Denver, Boulder area.

[413] There's basically two counties that control all of Colorado.

[414] We can't pretend to have representative, you know, Republicanism when you have like Cook County.

[415] Cook County basically rules Illinois.

[416] And everybody knows it.

[417] They're like, well, what are we supposed to do?

[418] We can't change Cook County.

[419] Well, then you're in a position where you have no representation.

[420] You're paying taxes to these criminals and they're controlling you.

[421] Until we have what's going to essentially be an electoral college for the states.

[422] Oh, yeah.

[423] That's what you got.

[424] Oregon wants to separate.

[425] Eastern Oregon wants to separate.

[426] Eastern Washington wants to separate.

[427] Idaho is open to it.

[428] These are ongoing, live, real conversations that are getting involved in legislative bodies in Idaho.

[429] They have already signaled that they're okay with that.

[430] And you're absolutely correct, because obviously that's why we have an electoral college.

[431] But guys, let me tell you how sick this country is.

[432] This Luigi...

[433] Mangione lunatic clown murderer had an entire gaggle of supporters at his court hearing today outside supporting this man. These are sick people, period.

[434] When we come back from the break, I want to talk about something that's going to lead into where we go into the next segment.

[435] And I also want to talk a little bit about the movement afoot in North Carolina right now that appears to be getting some pretty solid legs.

[436] on constitutional carry.

[437] And I'll bring you up to speed with a conversation I had with A .W .R. Hawkins on his podcast earlier today.

[438] And we'll go all the way back to 1987 in Florida to do that.

[439] And we'll get some thoughts from both Ryan and Paul as we move forward.

[440] Armed American Radio's Daily Defense continues.

[441] One more segment to go on a Friday.

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[451] Now, back to the show.

[452] Back to the show indeed.

[453] Mark Walters filling you a prescription for freedom today on what has been a bizarre Friday.

[454] That's all I can tell you.

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[474] We're going to close out a Friday with this segment with Paul Markle and Ryan Petty.

[475] Paul, let me go back to you quickly.

[476] There's a movement afoot in North Carolina that I was mentioning in the previous segment to bring...

[477] constitutional carry to that state.

[478] Part of the conversation I had with AWR Hawkins today on his podcast was a lot of fun.

[479] I usually interview him for the last 10, 12 years, and it was fun to be interviewed by AWR.

[480] We're not rookies at this together.

[481] And we got involved in the conversation that goes back to 1987 to Florida.

[482] And I kind of made the comparison.

[483] I think it's a good analogy.

[484] I feel, and I really do feel, as much as I hate to admit this, that the country had to suffer through those four years of Biden to get where we're at right now.

[485] If Trump had walked back in for a second term, imagine with the lawfare they were going after him, they wouldn't have tried.

[486] They would have impeached him multiple times.

[487] Who knows what they would have done.

[488] They wanted him out, they wanted him dead, and they would stop at nothing.

[489] And we would likely have a Democrat in office right now.

[490] So where I'm going with this is that whole collective relief.

[491] We look over our shoulders and go, man, what in the world just happened?

[492] So if we go back to 1987, keeping that in mind, to when Florida put in the permit structure that is widely regarded as what gave us the permit structure going forward, but it took years for all of the states to finally jump in line.

[493] Now you have 50 states that have some permit process in place, all of them.

[494] Whether they honor that, like Hawaii or other states that make it difficult to get it, at least the permit structure is in place, Jersey, etc. Bruin helped stifle a lot of that, a lot of the problems that people had with that.

[495] So here now, you have the constitutional carry movement that moved at warp speed compared.

[496] And the reason I mentioned the whole Biden thing is we had to go through that to feel the pain.

[497] We had to go through that infringement.

[498] of permit process, I believe, looking back in hindsight, which is always high definition in the rearview mirror, to get to where we're at with constitutional carry.

[499] Now, here we are with North Carolina poised to become the 30th constitutional carry state.

[500] How do you see that going forward?

[501] compared to what we had to go through to get permits that took so many years.

[502] Is it possible?

[503] Is it going to require another Supreme Court victory before we finally bring states like New York, Illinois, California, Washington, and just name any state behind the blue wall into the mix that they finally recognize our right to bear arms without a permit trying to stay in my seat today?

[504] No, I think we're just about at max capacity when it comes to states that are going to affirm.

[505] And, you know, North Carolina, if they could just get rid of these little grubby, money -grubbing sheriffs in their state there.

[506] North Carolina is not a gimme.

[507] Let's make that clear.

[508] It's not a gimme.

[509] You got these money -grubbing sheriffs.

[510] They're like, well, we're not going to get the money for the permits now.

[511] Your job is not to make money and tax.

[512] Your job is not to take the people's rights and hold them hostage and extort money out of them.

[513] That's not your job.

[514] I know you think it is, but it's not your job.

[515] And until we change the narrative, we have to change the narrative that permits are extortion.

[516] End of story.

[517] If it's a right, then you don't have to pay for it.

[518] You can't say out of one side of your mouth, oh, yeah, we're support.

[519] You know, you get these guys, these.

[520] These money -grubbing sheriffs in places like, and it's not just North Carolina, but a lot of them have stepped up and they're like, I don't support this.

[521] And I notice they never say, well, it'll keep guns out of criminals' hands.

[522] Like, the permit system doesn't keep guns out of criminals' hands.

[523] It keeps money in your hand.

[524] And you like money, don't you?

[525] Yeah.

[526] But we have to confront them with the fact that, hey, do you believe it's right?

[527] I do.

[528] I support the Second Amendment.

[529] But I think you have to pay for it.

[530] Then it's not a right.

[531] Then it's a privilege.

[532] It's a privilege.

[533] Greg in Dallas, this conversation came up a few weeks ago.

[534] Was it Alabama where the sheriff?

[535] Yeah.

[536] Was all pissed off because he was going to lose his money.

[537] Several sheriffs in Alabama.

[538] In Alabama.

[539] Ryan Petty, you guys have a fight on your hands down there with open carry.

[540] How do you see this playing out?

[541] Keeping in mind, again, it's easy to look back in the rearview mirror.

[542] I hate that it took so long to get the permit structure in place, but that was all we had to work with at the time.

[543] We're moving past that.

[544] North Carolina is not a gimme.

[545] It's not.

[546] It's not a guarantee.

[547] But at least it's a step in the right direction.

[548] And as much as I hate to admit this because, like every absolutist out there, I want it all now.

[549] Realistically, that's not going to happen.

[550] Do you see, or how do you see, I should say, Getting constitutional carry where the Second Amendment is my permit.

[551] Keep and bear arms.

[552] How do we get there and do it quickly, not have to wait like we did with Florida after 1987?

[553] Yeah, it seems to be a process, Mark.

[554] I'd love for it.

[555] You know, I'd love for the state legislatures to just recognize.

[556] to Paul's earlier comment that the Constitution of the Bill of Rights reigns supreme in the United States, and we will pass no laws that will infringe on that.

[557] And that includes charging somebody for the right to carry a firearm, to bear arms, right?

[558] And so the process we're going through right now seems to be pulling a lot of people, including legislators, governors, and Paul's exactly right.

[559] Many sheriffs who have gotten used to and like the power that they hold over their communities to be able to say, yes, you can carry a firearm or no, you can't carry a firearm, regardless of whether or not you've been charged with a crime and convicted of a crime, more importantly.

[560] And so it seems to be that just bit by bit, what we're seeing here in Florida is exactly an example of that.

[561] First, it's the shall carry, and now we've got what we call constitutional carry.

[562] And soon, I think in Florida, we'll have open carry.

[563] But it's a process, and I think it requires...

[564] So unfortunately, convincing a lot of folks who have a stake in the power grab or in the money grab, it takes convincing them that they do not have the constitutional authority to do the things that they have previously been doing.

[565] And hopefully we can put a stop to that.

[566] Paul, I'm going to give you the last word.

[567] We've only got a few seconds.

[568] Make it really quick.

[569] But how stupid are the Democrats?

[570] Kamala Harris and Pete Bootygig are frontrunners for 28 in the latest polls.

[571] We can only hope.

[572] We can only hope.

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[579] Ryan Petty, thank you for being here.

[580] Paul Markle, student of the gun, thank you for being here.

[581] And Greg, I didn't need the dump switch, came close a couple times, but no big deal.

[582] Friday day is over.

[583] Can't wait for Sunday's MonsterCast.

[584] We're going to be talking about Colorado.

[585] Lots going on on that show as well.

[586] Enjoy your weekend, everybody.

[587] Stay safe.

[588] Remember, carry on, carry off, and carry absolutely ever, never, ever, ever leave your cave without your club.

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