Conan Must Go: Kai (Norway)

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[4] Hi, Kai.

[5] Welcome to Conan O 'Brien needs a fan.

[6] Hey, hey, everyone.

[7] Hello, Kai.

[8] How are you?

[9] I'm doing fine.

[10] How are you, Conan?

[11] I'm doing very well.

[12] Kai, first of all, tell me, where are you talking to us from?

[13] Where are you right now in the world?

[14] I'm calling from a small fishing village on the coast of Norway, on the islands of Lofoten called Egum.

[15] I'm sorry, it's called Flufluten?

[16] No, it's Lufuten.

[17] Oh, I'm sorry, how foolish of me. Lufluten.

[18] Lufluten.

[19] All right, you are, your name is Kai, and you're coming from Luflutin, Norway, yes?

[20] Lufuten.

[21] Lufuten.

[22] I think you're getting it.

[23] You're coming along, Kyle.

[24] That was nice.

[25] Kai, tell me a little bit about yourself.

[26] Who are you?

[27] Tell us about Kai.

[28] I am just the run of the old mill.

[29] fish farmer from Norway.

[30] I used to be a fisherman.

[31] I don't know if you've seen like the Discovery Channel's TV show Deadliest Catch.

[32] Yes.

[33] So you used to be a fisherman.

[34] You used to take fish from the sea, but now you're a fish farmer, which means that you are planting fish.

[35] In the ground?

[36] In the ground.

[37] Can you take fish seeds?

[38] In the ground.

[39] How does it work?

[40] It's funny because like the fishermen don't really like the fish farmers that much because they think it's cheating.

[41] But I just say to the fishermen, which I used to be myself, that why do you want to go out into the ocean and spend a lot of time searching for fish when you can just plant them there, feed them, and sell them when they get big.

[42] Yeah.

[43] That's true.

[44] And so how does that go over with the fishermen?

[45] Yeah, no, they're angry all the time.

[46] I think they're pretty angry when you say that.

[47] So you're fish farming, but that still means you get in a boat, yes?

[48] You get a boat and you go out and do you have an area where you raise these fish?

[49] Yeah, we have like these installations on the ocean called a fish cage.

[50] And like where I work, we have 10 of them.

[51] And there's about 500 ,000 salmon in these cages.

[52] And we go out on our catamaran every day and we like make sure it gets fed. We make sure like the temperatures are like the environment is right around them and stuff like that.

[53] Yeah.

[54] What do you feed the salmon?

[55] Oh, it's called...

[56] Go ahead.

[57] Yeah, it's something called pallets.

[58] It's like this.

[59] It's something like they have figured out the kind of food that it gets to like make them grow the most from what they eat.

[60] Right.

[61] So is it filled with lots of chemicals and stuff that will help on the fish?

[62] No, no chemicals.

[63] Like me, it's all natural.

[64] Okay.

[65] Oh, there we go.

[66] Oh, I don't know about you, Kai.

[67] rely on many chemicals to enhance things, if you know what I mean.

[68] And you will.

[69] Kai, you will.

[70] Kai, please, settle down, gang.

[71] Kai, do fish, would, if you fed salmon hamburger, would they eat it?

[72] Of course, we wouldn't.

[73] Good answer.

[74] I'm just curious, like, part of me thinks, wouldn't it be funny to feed salmon hamburger and then feed that to a pescatarian?

[75] And then when they're done, go, ha, ha.

[76] You just ain't a lot of hamburger.

[77] Fuck you.

[78] Wouldn't that be a fun prank?

[79] Yeah, that would be...

[80] Yeah, that would be hilarious.

[81] I'm writing it down as we speak.

[82] Tell me about what do you...

[83] Do you like your job?

[84] Do you like going out on the sea and working with these fish?

[85] Is that...

[86] What kind of life is that?

[87] And do you enjoy it?

[88] It's...

[89] It's amazing.

[90] I think when I picture my life, I think if I get to stay within this field of work, I'm going to die happy, man, because it's such a free type of job, you know.

[91] We're just two, like, we're colleagues, but basically we're really good friends.

[92] Going out on a boat, doing our thing.

[93] We don't really have like supervisors hanging over us.

[94] It's like the ocean breeze.

[95] It's the weather.

[96] It's everything around that.

[97] And like at the end of day, when we.

[98] when we come in we can put a good honest day's work behind us you know it's interesting you say that because it sounds like you're a real man's man i am a real man yeah look at me no no but i'm saying without without kidding around you're this is you're going out on the sea to to make your way to make your living there's high winds it's very dramatic off norway and you're a real man doing this work yeah it's like an honest day's labor i'm kind of envious.

[99] Because I'm not envious because, Kai, what I do is very similar.

[100] No. I come out here.

[101] I don't know if the temperature in the podcast booth is going to be 71 or 72.

[102] I don't know if my, if the iced tea they got me is going to be completely unsweetened or have a little bit of sugar.

[103] So I, too, am battling the elements in my own way.

[104] Absolutely.

[105] I'm so happy that I'm up here in there.

[106] in the Arctic and not down there.

[107] It's, I'm, I'm so glad for that.

[108] What you just said.

[109] So, so, Kai, you're just very happy that you're, that you're you and not me. Is that what you're saying?

[110] Yeah.

[111] Yeah, that's sort of what I'm saying.

[112] I can't imagine being able to bear those problems.

[113] No. Well, you, you mentioned that you go out in the sea with someone else.

[114] Who is this?

[115] Is this a brother?

[116] Is it a friend?

[117] Who do you go out?

[118] Who's your colleague?

[119] Well, it's, uh, I would rather say that he's a colleague or like he's a buddy more than a colleague because we're such friends and his name is like in the region his name is pronounced god seaman and i was really nervous about saying that god seaman his name is guard seaman yeah that's yeah it's it's guard seaman and it's the perfect name for a guy who works in the ocean no it's not actually that would be Jack Fish or Billy Wave it's the perfect name for someone who wants to have a prison guard for a child yeah I mean guard seaman is not I don't think of as the perfect ocean going name does he does he tell people his name is guard seaman not if they're English no yeah he should switch it to Gus Jiz just saying if you tell him if he comes to like The United States, make sure he says Gus Jizz.

[120] You don't want people getting the wrong idea, okay?

[121] I'll be sure to tell him that tomorrow when he basically kicks my ass, yeah.

[122] All right, so your friend, Guard Seaman, aka Gus Jiz, he goes out on the boat with you every day.

[123] I would think two guys out on a relatively small boat on a vast ocean together.

[124] Do you guys ever, do you get along?

[125] I mean, because that would wear on me for a while.

[126] And I love, oh, wait a minute.

[127] I'm not just seeing who's in the booth with me. Well, no, what I'm saying is I do like you guys.

[128] I like, I'm not getting on a boat with you.

[129] I like Matt Goreley, and I like Sonom of Sessian.

[130] But if we were on a small boat together every day, we'd last maybe half an hour.

[131] No. How do you guys get along?

[132] Well, the thing is that to keep it fresh, we have installed this fun game we do when we're out in the ocean.

[133] we put on this local radio channel which is called Radio Retro so it plays like hits from the 60s to the 90s and we have it on full volume so when we're out working whenever there's a song comes on the first one to guess like the band's name or the title of the song gets a point and that's like the way we'd like to keep it fresh so it's a competition all throughout the day but you do that every day every day it's two of you bobbing in the water and then one of you shouts out it's the Archie's sugar sugar and you high -five each other that's what's keeping this together yeah when you say it like that you know yeah well don't make him don't make him question this it's all he's got no what I mean when I say it like that Kai that's what it is when you say it like that well and you guess the song and then you have to listen to the whole song yeah that's the best part Finn Lizzie boys are back in town You got another one.

[134] Jizz.

[135] You win this round.

[136] Let's plant another salmon.

[137] What, okay, so you, I think, I worry about you too.

[138] I do.

[139] I worry about you and guard semen because I think you're on a small boat and I worry that you're going to come to blows at some point and you probably should be talking to like a couples counselor or someone like that who could because this system you're using now of guessing songs on the radio that's not going to see you through in the long run.

[140] How long have you been doing that?

[141] It sounds like they're doing just fine.

[142] I know, they're pals.

[143] Six months.

[144] Oh, yeah.

[145] Six months.

[146] Longer.

[147] No, no. Don't be fooled.

[148] How long have you been in the boat together?

[149] Um, three of those six months, yeah.

[150] Okay.

[151] Wait, basically.

[152] I promise you that you're basically saying this is relatively new.

[153] You and Guard Seaman are out there playing 20 questions about songs, hits from the 1960s off a transistor radio.

[154] I think this is, uh, I think you're going to need help in the long run because you're going to get on each other's nerves.

[155] You know that, right?

[156] Does you, do you ever get irritated with him?

[157] every day every day but then the Beatles let it be comes on and it's all fine yeah well that's a pretty hard one to guess isn't it he only says let it be 75 ,000 times and then he says by the way this is the Beatles in the song yeah I don't know so what does he do what does Gards seaman do that gets on your nerves oh yeah because like oh what doesn't he do that gets in my nerves it just exists Oh, he exists Okay Yeah, it's my Jordan Schlansky He went from being your friend To just being this guy That you clearly can't stand You guys This is rough Is Gards Seaman a real person Or you just have kind of a little Skatero out there Yeah, he's the volleyball I was just going to say He's Tom Hacks Do you see Gorge Seaman in the room right now?

[158] Why would you name him guard seaman?

[159] Yeah, what's he made of?

[160] Okay, settle down Let's get this on the right track here, gang.

[161] We're talking to Kai here.

[162] What does he do specifically that does, can you name me a couple of things that Guard Seaman does that bother you when you're out on the boat?

[163] Well, like, I'm kind of a bit more experienced than him when it comes to, like, basically, boats and, like, being out in the ocean because I'm a pretty experienced, you know, seafarer.

[164] Ferrer, yeah.

[165] And, like, when I try to shrunk.

[166] It's actually seafarer -r -r -r -r -r -r -wur -wur.

[167] But anyway, that's okay.

[168] You're new.

[169] Yeah.

[170] Go ahead.

[171] But, like, every time I try to showing something, like, when you, like, for instance, with the engines, I tell him something, and then he just immediately says, no. And I go, what?

[172] And then he goes, oh, yeah, probably.

[173] And that's every time, every time.

[174] Well, I have some advice.

[175] Don't start an improv group with him.

[176] Okay?

[177] That's the first thing you shouldn't do.

[178] Okay?

[179] That's not going to go very far.

[180] Second, it sounds like he doesn't respect your authority.

[181] No, he doesn't.

[182] It doesn't.

[183] Yeah.

[184] What do you think I should do to make him respect my authority?

[185] Kill him.

[186] Whoa.

[187] Whoa.

[188] No. Talented Mrs. Ripley over here.

[189] You're on the boat in the middle of the ocean.

[190] It's perfect.

[191] Bodies disappear.

[192] Are you stronger than he is?

[193] Oh, yeah.

[194] Oh, yeah.

[195] A lot stronger.

[196] Are you, you're a very strong guy, aren't you?

[197] The strongest.

[198] What do you mean the strongest?

[199] When you say you're the strongest, are you the strongest guy in your town, do you think?

[200] Oh, yeah, no, I'm just the strongest mentally that actually has the endurance to put out with them, yeah.

[201] Oh, okay, I see.

[202] How big is your town that you live in?

[203] It's a small fishing village that's, we're approximately 50 people here.

[204] Oh, my God.

[205] Wait, you live in a village of 50 people, and then you choose a job where you go out with one person every day and isolate yourself?

[206] Yeah.

[207] What are you running?

[208] from what what did you do in your past 50 people live in your in the town of scloob andubin 50 people live there nobody in this village really uses like the internet or like social media or anything and here i am talking to like the biggest star in america and that's just so you hold on you you really don't get out you you really don't get out much guy because i mean like sola has a best selling book and everything and i'll remind you who you're talking to Let me ask you about your personal life.

[209] How's that going?

[210] You have a special person in your life?

[211] Guard seaman.

[212] Wait a minute.

[213] Okay.

[214] What's the dating?

[215] I mean, you live in a town.

[216] You're a good -looking manly mankind.

[217] I would think there would be limited opportunities in a town of 50 people.

[218] Is that true?

[219] Yeah.

[220] The thing is that, like, I couldn't really date anyone out here because we're all related.

[221] But about half an hour's drive, you come to a town that's slightly bigger.

[222] But even though it's slightly bigger, we're still in like the population is so that you know everybody.

[223] And for me to stand out, it's, yeah.

[224] Do you have a plan to meet somebody?

[225] Do you have a, is there a way where you are that you could go and possibly enter?

[226] a dating scene.

[227] I haven't really ever had a girlfriend and I'm not really sure how you get one of those.

[228] Well, you've come to the right person.

[229] Oh, no. No, my, in America I have quite the reputation with the ladies, so I will happily Well, no, I didn't say what kind of reputation.

[230] All right.

[231] Did I?

[232] No. Lots of restraining orders.

[233] Cease and desist.

[234] but would you like to meet somebody?

[235] Is that something you're interested in?

[236] Yeah, of course.

[237] Who wants to go through life alone?

[238] Well, Matt.

[239] Many years.

[240] Many years.

[241] And look what it did for me. Do you think I could be of any help to you in this area?

[242] What if you and I, what if I was your wingman?

[243] Do you think I would be of help to you?

[244] Or give me your opinion?

[245] I think if you were my wingman, I think I probably have to.

[246] to move to an even more secluded area.

[247] You're wrong, Kai.

[248] You're wrong.

[249] I could do great things for you, Kai.

[250] I could fix your relationship with guard seamen, and I could get you into a real dating pool where there are as many as two people you're not related to.

[251] Yeah, but, okay, have you ever been to Norway yourself?

[252] I have been to Norway, and you may know this, because it was a huge deal at the time, but I was there.

[253] I went to Oslo and I was the host at a big variety show that honored the winner of the Nobel Peace Prize.

[254] That must have swept through your area like a cyclone.

[255] Conan O 'Brien hits Norway.

[256] We probably didn't have television at the time so I wouldn't really know much about it.

[257] It was two months ago.

[258] It was a couple of years ago.

[259] I forget when exactly.

[260] Yeah, I saw an interview of you And, like, what I remember from you was that you were angry that these two 10 -year -olds were living at the same hotel as you had got all the recognition.

[261] Yeah, yeah.

[262] There was a pop duo of two 10 -year -olds.

[263] What?

[264] There were a big deal.

[265] And it was really hilarious because when I would walk outside my hotel, all the young girls were screaming, you know, Sluden, doodin, where is Sluden and Duton?

[266] And I was, you know, what are my chopped liver?

[267] ever?

[268] And it really did take me down to size.

[269] Boy, but they were quite the pop duo.

[270] I don't know where they are now.

[271] I think they've been imprisoned.

[272] Those two pop stars.

[273] I think it was two brothers.

[274] Sluden and Duden.

[275] Yeah, Sluden and Duden.

[276] And Marcus and Martinez.

[277] Oh, that's it.

[278] Marcus and Martinez.

[279] Are they still a big deal over there?

[280] They've really dabbed over the years.

[281] They've really what?

[282] They've become more and more anonymous over the years.

[283] One is playing soccer.

[284] and I don't know where the other one is.

[285] No one does.

[286] I think they're both one.

[287] Wait, one is playing soccer and the police don't know the whereabouts of the other one?

[288] No one knows.

[289] Careful you don't find something in the water.

[290] He changed his name to guard semen.

[291] Yeah.

[292] Fish farming with you.

[293] Yeah.

[294] How do you know that Martinez of Marcus and Martinez isn't guard semen?

[295] Let me ask you this.

[296] Anytime a Martin and Martinez song comes on the radio, does guard semen always get that one?

[297] Yeah, he gets it immediately.

[298] And he says, and I wrote that one.

[299] I mean, Martinez wrote that one.

[300] What a mustache I've got.

[301] Wow.

[302] Well, where do you live in town?

[303] Do you live in an apartment?

[304] Do you live in a house?

[305] No, actually, I bought like the house I grew up in.

[306] Oh.

[307] And I got a pretty sweet deal on it, too.

[308] Well, I should hope so.

[309] I would love it if you, what did you screw it over your parents?

[310] I got a pretty sweet deal.

[311] They didn't know what hit them.

[312] I muscled him out.

[313] How did you, you bought the house from your mother, your father?

[314] What happened?

[315] My father, because he was, he was, he has moved to another place.

[316] And I, I asked him instead of the house.

[317] He was tired of all the crowds.

[318] I wanted to get away from his whole family of 50 people.

[319] So he, he wanted to move on.

[320] And so what did he, what did he, you bought the house from him?

[321] Yeah, because I was living, I wanted to move.

[322] back to my hometown and I asked him like instead of the house just standing here and decaying maybe I could buy it for a reduced price and use the extra money to like freshen it up and so that when my siblings and my father wanted to come for a vacation they get like a more fresh and more styled house and yeah are you good at you are you good at home repair are you one of those guys that knows how to fix things up and make it look nice kind of but like uh uh I need help with most of the stuff.

[323] I can do some of it, but yeah.

[324] Well, what's guard semen doing?

[325] Yeah.

[326] I'm sorry, please.

[327] Gus Jiz.

[328] Sorry, Sam Pooge.

[329] Well, I just want to get back to the boat for a second.

[330] You're out on the boat.

[331] The wind is blowing through your hair.

[332] The salt spray is hitting your beard, your Nordic beard.

[333] You know, guard semen is in the back, probably screwing up the engine.

[334] But you must feel in those moments like you're really living life, you know?

[335] Is that what it feels like?

[336] Yeah, it's like it's just an unmatched feeling.

[337] Like you have the vast open oceans.

[338] You have like the climate we have here.

[339] It's windy.

[340] It's cold and you feel like you're really doing something that like has been in Norwegian traditions for ages, you know, because the Vikings were also doing that.

[341] were out in the ocean, they had like, they didn't have any engines, but like they had the same feeling that we have today.

[342] Just we have a bit more modernized equipment around us.

[343] No, but it's basically, basically, Kai, you are, I'm not even kidding here, you are a modern day Viking, you're part of a tradition that goes back thousands of years, you're out on the sea, you're a man's man, and you are creating, finding food, nature's bounty from the cold, briny deep, off the coast of Norway.

[344] This sounds fantastic.

[345] This sounds like something I would want to experience because look at me. I am in a booth.

[346] On doctor's orders, I don't go outside much.

[347] I live a very sheltered life.

[348] What you're doing sounds so exciting to me. Do you think that seems that way?

[349] Because look, you're wearing this Norwegian jacket too.

[350] Yeah, yeah.

[351] My wife got this to me. Totally coincidence.

[352] And I wore this today not even knowing who I was going to be talking to, but it's cold in L .A. right now.

[353] It's a chilling 66 degrees.

[354] Yeah.

[355] Careful.

[356] So I put this on.

[357] No, but what you're doing sounds, I'm very envious of what you're doing.

[358] And I want you to answer this honestly, Kai.

[359] You've watched a lot of my videos and you've listened to my podcast.

[360] How do you think I would do in your little boat on the raging seas off the coast of Norway?

[361] How would I size up?

[362] Would I do okay?

[363] Be honest.

[364] Why'd you have to say Be honest What do you talk?

[365] I do want you to be on it Be honest, how would I do?

[366] I mean, you got some musical knowledge or you would beat us at that thing.

[367] No, I don't mean with the contest.

[368] I don't mean with the contest.

[369] Yes, I would actually probably do pretty well at the contest.

[370] I know my music.

[371] Especially 60s and 70s, I'd kill it.

[372] Once you get into the late.

[373] 80s.

[374] That stuff's shit.

[375] Listen, my point is, I would like to know how I size up as a man in that situation.

[376] And I would like to know what you think.

[377] You know, I think it would be such a new and cool experience for you that I think you would probably kill it.

[378] And give me a couple of days.

[379] I would have taught you how to drive a boat properly, how to work the engines.

[380] I would have, no, not a couple of days.

[381] I would need.

[382] I like to try and get the gist of things in about half an hour.

[383] Do you mean he'd kill it or just get killed?

[384] Yeah.

[385] Yeah, I'm talking about the salmon.

[386] He would probably cost a mass death and he'd hope he had jobs.

[387] You know, Kai, you're underestimating me. I am a very, first of all, I believe I have some Viking blood.

[388] You know, my people come from Ireland.

[389] I have red hair.

[390] And there's a good chance that I am a Viking descent.

[391] What if, when I get in that little boat and I'm off the coast of Norway, way, you see that I really am in my element, that my DNA, which for thousands of years has been That's like saying a toy poodle is a wolf.

[392] There's some wolf -like qualities in a toy poodle.

[393] Have you ever seen one really when you offer it a little treat?

[394] You see its eyes turn red.

[395] yeah a Viking is to you like a lion is to a little pretty kitty too little tiny kitty cat Kai they're wrong and you're wrong I'm a badass and I could prove to I'm a badass okay yeah Conan you're the Rolls Royce of Vikings I'm sorry but I love it I'm the car no one drives anymore a Viking yeah expensive I'm the expensive, unreliable Viking that no one has...

[396] The ultimate empty gesture.

[397] No one's had anything to do with since about 1972.

[398] Wow.

[399] Okay.

[400] Well, listen, Kai, very cool talking to you.

[401] And I'm not kidding.

[402] I am very intrigued by your life.

[403] I think there's a part of everybody, especially those of us who live in Los Angeles in our stupid little bubble who thinks, how would I measure up?

[404] How would I measure up if I really had to be out there tested by the elements with a true manly man?

[405] I don't know how I would do and there's part of me that's curious.

[406] Yeah, but you're welcome to come and try and I'll reach you with open arms.

[407] Well, you'll spot me coming a while away because I'll be the first person that you don't immediately know from town that you've seen since birth.

[408] Driving up in a Rolls Royce.

[409] Yeah, exactly.

[410] A Rolls Royce This is how I roll Kai, it's an honor to talk to you Give my best to guard seaman Yeah, same to you Conan Dream come true Thank you so much And please my best to everybody And Sluden -Dudin And I do hope our paths Cross one day Because I'd like to test myself On the high seas I really would You sort of kind of know the name of the town So maybe it will all I have to do is hit Norway and say which way is abensklobun and I think there's an 80 % chance they point me in your direction okay yeah actually all I have to do is say where's kai and they'll go oh or guard seaman yeah or guard seaman yeah thanks kai hey kai it was really nice talking to you and I do hope our paths cross you seem like a very cool guy yeah same same thank you so much take care bye bye bye needs a fan.

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