MFM Minisode 7

[0] This is exactly right.

[1] Hey, this is exciting.

[2] An all -new season of only murders in the building is coming to Hulu on August 27th.

[3] Steve Martin, Martin Short, and Selena Gomez are back as your favorite podcaster, detectives.

[4] But there's a mystery hanging over everyone.

[5] Who killed Saz?

[6] And were they really after Charles?

[7] Why would someone want to kill Charles?

[8] This season, murder hits close to home.

[9] With a threat against one of their own, the stakes are higher than ever.

[10] Plus, the gang is going to Hollywood to turn their podcast into a major movie.

[11] Amid the glitz and glamour of Los Angeles, more mysteries and twists arise.

[12] Who knows what will happen once the cameras start to roll?

[13] Get ready for the stariest season yet with Merrill Streep, Zach Alfinacus, Eugene Levy, Eva Longoria, Melissa McCarthy, DeVine, Joy Randolph, Molly Shannon, and more.

[14] Only Martyrs in the Building, premieres August 27th, streaming only on Hulu.

[15] Goodbye.

[16] Hey, Karen.

[17] Oh, hello, I didn't see you there.

[18] I was putting my mic up in kind of rock.

[19] and roll.

[20] I know, and you're touching it, and it really, like, as if you're, like, touching the face of a lover with your hands, like the side of.

[21] This mic is my lover.

[22] I'm going to kiss you.

[23] Can I kiss you?

[24] Can I kiss you?

[25] I'm just a girl standing in front of her mic.

[26] It's trying to tell my mic that I love it.

[27] How's it going?

[28] Hey, good.

[29] Welcome to everyone to my favorite murder minisode.

[30] What do you mean?

[31] You just kind of were talking like this a little bit.

[32] I realized that I'm talking to everyone.

[33] Oh, you got a little it.

[34] self -conscious?

[35] Probably.

[36] I think, yeah, my normal voice and my, and my, like, talky voice are not the same thing.

[37] Yeah.

[38] Yes.

[39] I find when I listen back to these episodes, my self -loathing is only growing exponentially, and so I have decided to try to stop doing that.

[40] Stop listening.

[41] Hating yourself or listening?

[42] Yeah.

[43] It's just too much.

[44] I don't need to listen in my own recorded voice bullshitting for hours at a time.

[45] Well, you're not bullshitting, but I also do you think as two people who have a lot of self -criticisms and over and over you know what's the thing hyper critical yeah that we don't we probably both even though every time I listen I'm like we're fucking great it definitely I'm left with a fun feeling at the end but I do spend a lot of time going like last episode of the full episode I cleared my throat 15 times in a row like a person with obsessive compulsive disorder so much so that it scared me while I was listening to it.

[46] That you have something wrong with your throat?

[47] Or brain, like whatever it is, that there's something wrong.

[48] Like a tick.

[49] Yes, exactly.

[50] Like a weird math teacher.

[51] And I just, the whole idea of that was set me off for the week.

[52] Let's stop listening.

[53] Let's stop recording.

[54] No, yeah, let's stop listening.

[55] So that was actually me projecting onto you because I was like, why are you doing your voice like that?

[56] But really, that's me trying to talk about my own self -consciousness.

[57] And, like, noticing things and thinking about them too much.

[58] Yes.

[59] And turning up the X -ray vision.

[60] It's just like, no, leave it alone.

[61] We're not listening anymore.

[62] Who gives a shit?

[63] I mean, you can give a shit, but you're wrong.

[64] But, like, a normal...

[65] About yourself.

[66] Give a shit knowing that you are wrong and flawed.

[67] probably more okay than you think.

[68] Yeah, and maybe it's just a little bit self -obsessed.

[69] And who gives a shit is that I mean it that way.

[70] No, we really are, and it's fine.

[71] Okay.

[72] Should we do this thing?

[73] Yeah, let's read some hometown murders.

[74] Yeah, we're in L .A. This is what you're supposed to be like here.

[75] So this is a mini -so.

[76] You guys send us all your hometown murders, which we love to my favorite murder at Gmail.

[77] And this is, we started doing mini episodes so we can just read them to you.

[78] So that you someday will hear your own back at you.

[79] Yeah.

[80] Karen, you want to go first?

[81] Sure.

[82] Because I really like this one because the subject line is Kenosha's Bermuda Triangle of Murder.

[83] Kenosha, Wisconsin.

[84] My friend Bradford lives somewhere near there, or grew up somewhere near there.

[85] Didn't even know it was a place.

[86] What's that?

[87] Didn't even know it was a place.

[88] So listen to this.

[89] Hi, please.

[90] Oh.

[91] In parentheses, this thing kicks off with a parenthetical that says, Hi, please call me Nick.

[92] If you read aloud, do not use.

[93] last name, which is a great reminder, Nick, because I would have gone straight into all of your details.

[94] I'm new to the podcast.

[95] My cousin told me about it, and I'm totally hooked.

[96] I live in Wisconsin, and I always felt super weird about being fascinated by Jeffrey Dahmer.

[97] Now I know I'm a murderino.

[98] Yay.

[99] That's nice.

[100] I was raised in Kenosha, Wisconsin, and I was told this story about this awful area in town.

[101] Kenosha's murder alley is an unpaved strip of land running south from 64th Street between 20th and 21st Avenues.

[102] Two blocks away the downtown business district bustles with activity, but residents along the alley live with daily apprehension that is more akin to an excursion through the twilight zone.

[103] There's something strange out there in that alley.

[104] Coroner Thomas Dorff told the press in February 1981.

[105] Sort of a Bermuda Triangle of Murder, I'd say.

[106] Holy shit.

[107] What seems to be going on is unexplainable.

[108] This is all the quote.

[109] Lieutenant Rudy Blotz, that's the best name I've ever heard.

[110] Rudy Blots of the Kenosha Police Department was equally direct branding the alley a jinx or something.

[111] The happenings, quote unquote, include a string of seven grisly homicides between 1967 and 1981.

[112] They're savagery baffling locals who remark on Kenosha's relative freedom from violent crime.

[113] Three of these cases have been unsolved unrelated to one another.

[114] Oh my God.

[115] They're all unrelated.

[116] Three of them have been unrelated, but the grim geographical coincidence has authorities shaking their heads in confusion.

[117] The first alley murder occurred on February 9, 1967, when 17 -year -old Mary Caldenberg left her home on 64th Street to purchase a bottle of pop from the corner drugstore.

[118] Four days later, officers discovered her corpse in the back of a 1948 hearse parked at the city auto pound a mile from her house fully clothed except for her shoes which were removed and placed near the body Mary had been stabbed 12 times in the neck chest forehead and back the case remains unsolved 11 years later on January 30th 1978 Gerald Burnett 52 was found sprawled in a snowbank near his home at the mouth of the alley He had been beaten to death with a tire iron, killed in what police described as a robbery.

[119] Suspect Stephen Goss has been convicted and imprisoned for the crime.

[120] On May 27, 1979, 80 -year -old Herman Bosman was found beaten to death in his burning home on the alley's east side.

[121] Authorities speculate that the fire was set to destroy evidence of the murder, which remains unsolved at this writing.

[122] A month later, on June 23rd, Alice Alsner, age 18, was a month later.

[123] unearthed in a rose garden adjoining the alley.

[124] A jury convicted the property owner 23 -year -old Thomas Holt of raping the victim and strangling her with her own bresier.

[125] Holt was sentenced to die on January 26, 1981, news of a triple murder rocked the neighborhood's fragile peace.

[126] Victims Alice Eaton, John Aman, and Raphael Petrucci were found dead in Eaton's home adjoining the alley.

[127] Her grandson Robert Mc Roberts was a Rested and charged with the slaying, science fiction mere coincidence, whichever local officers and residents along the alley keep their personal opinions to themselves agreeing only that, quote, there's something going on out there.

[128] Keep up the podcast, stay sexy, don't get murdered, Nick.

[129] Whoa.

[130] I want to see a picture of the alley is so bad.

[131] That's crazy.

[132] That's so crazy.

[133] And you know it's bad news when the cop and the corner is like, we don't know.

[134] It's crazy.

[135] It's a mystery.

[136] It's the Twilight Zone.

[137] Yeah.

[138] That's freaky.

[139] Instead of like, we're going to take care of this.

[140] It's not, it's like, it's explainable.

[141] No, they're like, nobody panic.

[142] They're just like, we don't fucking know what's going on.

[143] Yeah.

[144] That's, I love that one.

[145] That's good, that's good news.

[146] What do you got?

[147] Thank you for sending that.

[148] Nick.

[149] Yes, Nick.

[150] Well done.

[151] Okay.

[152] Mine is called, I wanted to buy this house until dot, dot, dot, dot.

[153] Disclosure, quadruple homicide.

[154] Oh, fuck.

[155] Okay, this is from Charlene.

[156] Okay.

[157] I'm just going to jump right into it.

[158] I first heard of my hometown murder a few years ago when I was house hunting.

[159] The town is Gaston, Oregon, no bigger than 600 people, and just on the outskirts of this town is a small community called Laurelwood.

[160] This is where the house I was interested in was, and where I later found out a quadruple murder took place.

[161] My parents told me the story, and no, I did not buy the house.

[162] It was 1977.

[163] My parents were in their teenage years.

[164] My dad worked at the local gas station, where one day dozens of bikers came in to fill up.

[165] They were members of the Hells Angels of California.

[166] I've heard of them.

[167] A week or so later, a quadruple murder took place in Laurelwood.

[168] The victims were a young mother, Margo Compton, her two six -year -old twin girls, and a family friend, Gary Sessler.

[169] Gary Sessler's fiancée was the first to happen upon the scene.

[170] She found her fiancée still alive, laying on the ground, holding the telephone, gurgling in his own blood.

[171] God.

[172] He died shortly after she found him, and she left to go get help.

[173] The police arrived and they found Gary Sistler, Margo Compton, and her twins all dead from gunshot wounds.

[174] The twins were wearing matching striped swimsuits and clutching matching teddy bears.

[175] Oh, that's horrible.

[176] Lying face down.

[177] They had each been shot behind the ears.

[178] Why?

[179] It was later found out that Margo Compton had moved into the small town from the California Bay area to escape her life of working in a brothel run by the hell's angels.

[180] She had recently testified against a Hell's Angel member for crimes involving prostitution rings.

[181] That's not good.

[182] That Hell's Angels member, Otis Buck Garrett, was convicted.

[183] And while in jail, he hired a hitman named Robert Bug Eye Bob McClure to find and kill Margo.

[184] Bug Eye Bob came for her.

[185] Oh, it looks like it.

[186] If the kills were successful, Bug Eye Bob would be initiated into Hell's Angels.

[187] Do you want to kill two children or do you want to be in Hell's Angels?

[188] Well, I need friends And I love motorcycles So, yeah, I guess I'll kill two children Just join the CD of the month club Just grow your beard and listen to Zizi Top You're a suck and loser Oops I just said that about a healthy I know, should we even be reading this?

[189] I don't think they're as strong these days No, no, no, I don't think they're violent I'm sorry, I'm sorry for being rude, Hilsaint Yeah He was accompanied by a fellow hitman named Benjamin Psycho Silva who made the trip to Oregon to carry out the murders.

[190] Also, the contract was not only to kill Margo but to make her watch her two girls be shot.

[191] That's first.

[192] Gary, the family French, just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

[193] This case went unsolved until 1994, only because of Bug Eye Bob while in prison, for who knows what, bragged a fellow inmates of his killings.

[194] Eventually him and Buck were convicted and given four life sentences.

[195] Psycho Silva was not charged because he was already in prison on death row for kidnapping, raping, and killing two college kids in the 80s.

[196] Oh, and on a side note, I just Googled Psycho Silva and his murder conviction was reversed in 2005.

[197] Oh, fuck.

[198] We're going to be murdered.

[199] I can't find any updates after that.

[200] What the fuck?

[201] Maybe you guys can do some research and follow up on this for a possible my favorite murder theme.

[202] No. Could be, duh.

[203] He is the killer, but conviction reversed.

[204] Yeah.

[205] So he's still out there.

[206] Let's tell everyone that.

[207] I can't help but say in an Oprah voice, you got off on a technicality and you got off on a technicality.

[208] And that's my favorite hometown murder.

[209] Thanks for talking.

[210] M is for murder, Charlene.

[211] Shit.

[212] That's a good one.

[213] Fucked up, man. Is there anybody that tries to join the Hells Angels name like responsible Jim?

[214] That's all I could think of.

[215] They call him.

[216] They call him Jim the nice guy.

[217] The whispering man. Oh, that's just fucking...

[218] Jim, the kind of women.

[219] The male feminist.

[220] Jim the male feminist wants to join our motorcycle gang.

[221] Jim the Feminazzi Smith wants to...

[222] He'll get in your face about social issues.

[223] He makes a mean hot dish.

[224] That's rough.

[225] I know, man. Back in the 70s, Hills Angels were scary.

[226] It would be like they would just come to a town and everyone would be...

[227] I mean, that's what all those Charles Bronson movies are about.

[228] Yeah.

[229] He's like the lone sheriff.

[230] And then there's just like 50 motorcycle gang members there to raise hell.

[231] yeah I just don't think they're like that anymore well then mask came out and you saw the softer side was Cher and her boyfriend Sam Neal Sam wow it's not Sam Neal that guy's British I don't know anything about it I thought Stephen was making a Sam Neal face at me he was just enjoying the podcast sorry I'll read it I know you're good should we each two and more Hey this is exciting An all new season of only murders in the building is coming to Hulu on August 27th Steve Martin Martin shortened Selena Gomez are back as your favorite podcaster, detectives.

[232] But there's a mystery hanging over everyone.

[233] Who killed Saz?

[234] And were they really after Charles?

[235] Why would someone want to kill Charles?

[236] This season, murder hits close to home.

[237] With a threat against one of their own, the stakes are higher than ever.

[238] Plus, the gang is going to Hollywood to turn their podcast into a major movie.

[239] Amid the glitz and glamour of Los Angeles, more mysteries and twists arise.

[240] Who knows what will happen once the cameras start to roll?

[241] Get ready for the stariest season yet with Marilyn.

[242] Strip, Zach Alfinacus, Eugene Levy, Eva Longoria, Melissa McCarthy, Davey, Joy Randolph, Molly Shannon, and more.

[243] Only Martyrs in the Building, premieres August 27th, streaming only on Hulu.

[244] Goodbye.

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[246] Absolutely.

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[259] Speaking my language.

[260] Hi, ladies, first of all, I love you both, and I can totally tell your voices aboard.

[261] Oh, thank you.

[262] Good job, Jeannie.

[263] I know you get a lot of these, so hopefully my subject line caught your interest because this one's a doozy.

[264] It did.

[265] Good job.

[266] I went to an all -girls prep school named the Madeira School for High School in Virginia.

[267] That can't be right.

[268] Did they teach you how to write?

[269] It was everybody majored in redundancy.

[270] I'm sorry, we love you, thank you.

[271] We love you, we love you.

[272] From the moment I got there, I heard stories about the 14 -year -old girl who was murdered in the wood, so naturally, I did some research.

[273] She's a lifelong murderer, you know.

[274] First and foremost, the campus is on 376 acres of land.

[275] With the main campus using about 5 % of it, the unused portion is basically all wood.

[276] Here's your movie.

[277] We're in.

[278] This is scene one, right?

[279] Yeah.

[280] Fogs rolling in.

[281] All forest.

[282] All girls.

[283] All girls.

[284] and a monster and a dog.

[285] And then like, can there be like a strict teacher who in the end turns out to be the one that saves them all?

[286] Yes, like a Snape, a Snape, but a lady.

[287] Totally.

[288] You were thinking of a lady's name?

[289] Mrs. Snape's girlfriend.

[290] Anyways, on October 29th, 1973, 14 -year -old Natalia, her name was Tasha, parentheses.

[291] Semler was tortured and murdered by 23 -year -old John Gilrath in the woods on count.

[292] Oh, no. Tasha, who was a small five -foot -one 90 -pound girl, was walking from the school's chapel to lunch, so daytime, but never made it to the dining hall.

[293] Later that day, her family thought it was strange when she didn't come home from school.

[294] And her parents, so it was, you didn't stay there.

[295] It was like you'd go home.

[296] So you'd go to school in the woods and then come home.

[297] So it wasn't a boarding school.

[298] It was like a...

[299] It was just four girls.

[300] Yeah.

[301] Okay.

[302] Later that day, her family thought it was strange.

[303] She didn't come home from school.

[304] Her parents called the headmistress, her friends, etc. Mrs. Sneat.

[305] But they didn't panic.

[306] They called Mrs. Snape on her red phone on her desk.

[307] But didn't panic since bad things rarely happen in northern Virginia at the time.

[308] Yeah, it was the 70s.

[309] As dinner time came and went, and they started to worry and called the police who didn't think much of it and kind of wrote it off.

[310] Run away.

[311] Yeah, teenager being rebellious.

[312] They didn't start investigating until several hours later, and we all know that typically the first few hours that a person is missing are the most critical.

[313] the police arrived that was in the email the police arrived on campus at around 9 p .m. she was missing since before lunch hello also in the email they found her bike and backpack near the woods but it had rained heavily making it very difficult for dogs to track her scent so instead of looking any further they called the search off because that's totally normal idiots tosh's parents obviously weren't ready to give up so the following morning around 6 a .m. Tosh's father went to the campus with her beloved golden retriever, Tilly.

[314] No, Tilly.

[315] Within minutes of arriving, Tilly found Tish's body.

[316] Tilly did it.

[317] Tilly found her.

[318] Do you think Tilly was so scarred from that?

[319] Yes.

[320] I do.

[321] A scarred golden retriever.

[322] Oh, what is worse?

[323] We have to, we have to stop recording.

[324] Should we take a break?

[325] It's so awful.

[326] Oh, no, Tilly.

[327] his body was found beaten, bruised, scraped and naked from the waist down by her father and dog.

[328] That's the two worst people who could find her.

[329] Her hands were tied so tightly by blanket scraps that they were black from lack of circulation.

[330] She was tied to a tree.

[331] Oh, this is awful.

[332] They also found a gag stuffed in her mouth.

[333] She had puncture wounds on her back and chest, apparently from a screwdriver.

[334] The wounds along with multiple cuts and bruises on her face indicated she had forced to endure prolonged.

[335] torture.

[336] This is horrible.

[337] She bled profusely, died from shock exposure and fatigue after being outside, and tortured for over 10 hours in 30 degree weather.

[338] So they would have found her?

[339] Um, yes, it looks like it.

[340] Yeah.

[341] Holy shit.

[342] Reports indicated that she had not been raped, but that there were open wounds on her ankles from trying to escape the ties.

[343] She was just 400 feet behind the chapel.

[344] Oh my God.

[345] John Gilrath was almost seven feet tall.

[346] What the fuck?

[347] And 200 pounds.

[348] Oh, no. And had been convicted of seven sex -related incidents prior to attacking Tasha.

[349] How many does it take?

[350] Sounds like eight.

[351] He also previously abducted and molested another 14 -year -old girl from Madera for over two hours.

[352] Originally, he was sentenced over 50 years in prison for this last crime, but was released with a sentence suspended on the condition that he go to a mental institution.

[353] Not even a year later, he was given.

[354] outpatient status.

[355] What the fuck?

[356] On the 29th of October, he returned to Madera to prove that he had suppressed his irresistible impulses to attack girls.

[357] After Tasha's murder, John Gilrath, was convicted and sentenced to 50 years.

[358] Tasha's parents testified.

[359] Fifty, that means he could get out still.

[360] Nope, because he died in December of 2009.

[361] Wow, that's so recent.

[362] Um, and she said she's not sure if he died in jail or what, but he's gone.

[363] Stay sexy, don't get murdered and also make sure your pets know your scent just in case.

[364] K -by Jeannie.

[365] Mimi, would you find me?

[366] She's like, after my naps.

[367] She's like, I don't even know where I am half the time.

[368] That was.

[369] Oh, my God.

[370] Crazy bummer intense, but also awesome and how awful it was.

[371] That's a crazy story that we would never have heard.

[372] Seven feet.

[373] My father's six foot four.

[374] And he is a very large man. And 200 pounds is like big.

[375] No, I guess not that big.

[376] For someone seven feet tall, it's actually, he's like a rate.

[377] He's like a big skinny monster in the woods.

[378] That's so scary.

[379] All right.

[380] You got one?

[381] You got a palisor?

[382] Can you deal with it?

[383] No, I have another murder story.

[384] That was, yeah.

[385] It seems like this theme has really painted us into a corner in terms of the thing.

[386] Should we change the name of the podcast about rainbows or something?

[387] Yes.

[388] It's called Rainbow Time with Karen and Georgia.

[389] We should start like an after the podcast where we just talk about the best thing.

[390] that have ever happened.

[391] That's actually a great idea.

[392] At the end of us, we're going to tell each other one thing that made us really happy this week.

[393] Okay.

[394] Okay, good.

[395] All right.

[396] Until then I'm going to cry silently away from my microphone.

[397] Okay.

[398] This is just called hometown murder by Kelly.

[399] Hi, I recently discovered your podcast and needless to say, I'm obsessed.

[400] You ladies are my murder soul sisters.

[401] I live in Lakewood, Colorado, where I grew up.

[402] When I was about six years old, a little boy, you ready for this?

[403] Yeah.

[404] Here we go.

[405] I was brutally raped and murdered in the green belt where we used to spend endless summer days playing, swimming, catching snakes, etc. Jacob McKnight was the same age as me and went to a neighboring elementary school.

[406] My brother knew his older brother.

[407] They played sports and stuff.

[408] Anyways, Jacob was tagging along with his older brother and his friends one day down at the green belt.

[409] The story goes, they were giving him a hard time and he was younger.

[410] You know the deal.

[411] Older brother being a dick and whatnot.

[412] They ended up leaving him behind and took off on their bikes.

[413] A man approached Jacob, allegedly this.

[414] this dude chin, C -H -I -N, and offered to help him get home.

[415] He took him to the 7 -E -E -E -E -E -L -E -E -E -L -E -E -E -V -E -C -E -E -L -E -E -E -V -E -E -L -E -E -V -E -E -L -E -E -L -E -E -E -V -E -E -V -E -E -V -E -E -L -E -E -V -E -E -MMorial -E -E -Morialized Jacob, and was later vandalized.

[416] they never solved the case.

[417] It remains cold to this day.

[418] Whoa.

[419] Anyway, this still haunts me to this day.

[420] I have a little boy of my own now and I can tell you he will never ride his bike alone or with friends until he's like 37.

[421] Oh, how fucked up is his brother for the rest of his life?

[422] That's the first thing I thought of.

[423] The decisions you make as a kid that you should not be having to make.

[424] Yeah.

[425] Because you shouldn't be out by yourself.

[426] No. And it's good that I, it's good that people are helicopter parents now.

[427] Yeah.

[428] Because when you're out on your own and you're eight and your brother's six, you're going to make the wrong decision.

[429] Totally.

[430] Always.

[431] You don't, I mean, unless you, it's hit home as it was when we got old, like, in the, later, like in the 80s.

[432] And so, like, stranger danger.

[433] Don't talk to strangers.

[434] Like, don't.

[435] If someone says they know your parent, they don't know your parent.

[436] Yeah.

[437] We didn't, they didn't know that before, like, what, 85 or something?

[438] No. Oh, I mean, like, pockets of people knew it.

[439] But yeah, on the whole, it was like, no, just walk around and people try to offer you a ride, you know, just play it as it lays, just figure out.

[440] Adults are authority figures and you need to say yes, sir, and yes, ma 'am, and do what adults tell you to do.

[441] That's the one thing I have to say, I'm so grateful that my mom, my mom had two alcoholic parents, and she was an only child.

[442] So she basically raised herself, and so she was super, from a very early age, made sure my sister and I both understood adults were not authority figures.

[443] and we didn't have to listen to adults and if anyone ever made us feel uncomfortable like she laid the groundwork of all that stuff super early she was also a psychiatric nurse but she had she like being a person who had to like fend for herself essentially in all of life she always shit and was like that you don't need to do this if an adult ever yells at you or raises their voice you leave you call me you like that you don't have to take shit from people especially adults Yeah, I always liked, someone, I think, wrote recently somewhere on Facebook, I'm sorry, I'm not giving you any credit, or I saw this somewhere that a parent says to their kid, there is no reason for an adult to ask a child for help.

[444] Yes.

[445] So if a guy comes to ask you to help him find his dog or to help him, look for anything, or he needs, there's children do not get asked for help by adults.

[446] No. So don't ever fall for that.

[447] Or your mom needs you, let me come, let me help you, you know, let me take you to her.

[448] I like that we're saying this as if a six -year -olds are listening to listen to me, your mommy would never Yeah, so kids get raped all the time Oh no It's so dark It's so dark But I think of my nephew and I'm like he would never be alone No He would never Those times are over It's kind of a beautiful thing Yeah Those times are over where it's like Yeah people realize There's plenty of very sick people in this world and you have to like your kids aren't just to be turned loose into the field.

[449] But it's so crazy because do you think about like if I saw a six year old walking alone down a street I would be like get in the fucking car like you can't be walking alone but then they're always like don't get in the car of people and then they would pull a gun on you because they'd be like ma 'am it simply isn't done and then you go to prison did I ever tell you that story of when I was driving in Silver Lake and I was driving it was night time along Griffith Park Boulevard kind of behind Hyperion Dark, it's dark over there.

[450] Dark.

[451] Yeah, not a lot of street lights.

[452] And I saw a little kid, he probably was like nine years old running up the street.

[453] And he, as I was driving, it was kind of slow because it was like there's a bunch of stop sign.

[454] He looked into the car and was looking into the car.

[455] So I stopped and rolled the window and I go, are you okay?

[456] And then he stopped running and goes, oh, yeah, sorry.

[457] And then like ran up a driveway.

[458] But I think he maybe thought it was like his friend's mom or I don't know what it was.

[459] But there was this four second period of time where I'm like, like this child is being pursued and I need to get him into this car.

[460] Good for you, Karen.

[461] Thank you very much.

[462] You're a great person and you're beautiful and you have a button nose.

[463] Look how small this nose.

[464] That is a goddamn button.

[465] I want to sew that on my coat.

[466] It should be on a teddy bear's jacket.

[467] It is just.

[468] And how do you get past TSA with those sharp cheekbones?

[469] How do they let you into, you know, on an airplane with those.

[470] weapons of mass destruction.

[471] That's right.

[472] We ended, we ended on it up now.

[473] We did it.

[474] What made you happy this week?

[475] Oh, uh, all, I think all the, all the messages from people who have had the back and sciatic problems that I had last episode, yep, or the episode before, they, everyone was so nice and offered so many solutions and were so, it was just like this really nice outpouring of people who were cool.

[476] That's very cool.

[477] It was very, very, it made me feel like I was in a community.

[478] You are.

[479] I am.

[480] It's very cool.

[481] It's very cool.

[482] It's very cool.

[483] people who are like genuinely concerned and want to go, oh, I have a trick for that or I can solve this for you.

[484] I've experienced this thing.

[485] It sucks.

[486] Here's a solution.

[487] Yeah.

[488] Not like, not a bunch of no at all.

[489] It was just like, I want you to not feel like shit.

[490] Yeah.

[491] It was great.

[492] There was a couple things I read that were contradictory information though where I was starting get stressed out for it.

[493] No, no, no, no. I was like, don't ice it.

[494] Don't heat it.

[495] Oh, every single one was, I wanted to write down like how it was just, but there were doctors and people who were writing in and they were like, don't do this.

[496] do that and I say listen to them but yeah there was a lot of contradictory shit and so I kind of just did all of it smart I don't feel better I get really nervous when I see like when someone writes I'm like I'm actually a doctor I'm actually a lawyer yeah I'm just like ooh sorry please don't look over here I don't trust doctors and lawyers anymore if you're listening with this shit why is filling your head with this absolute crap we don't want people like you we want people who are in menial jobs who are bored go to your go to your charity events.

[497] Go stand around in your tuxedos.

[498] Be doctors.

[499] We don't want you.

[500] What's the best thing that happened to you this week or a good thing?

[501] You know what?

[502] To be totally honest, there was a thing that happened at work that it was just a tiny moment between me and another writer and I felt bad at how I reacted in the moment.

[503] I wish that I'd just been neutral the whole time, but I had like a little someone kind of sassed me and I sass them back.

[504] someone who I consider a good friend.

[505] Your sasses hurt sometimes.

[506] Yeah, I can be super, yeah.

[507] You're good at it.

[508] You know well.

[509] It comes out and it's like I was raised to sass at Defcom 5 and most people are barely at like a point too.

[510] And our fucking self -esteem are like a negative.

[511] We're all just these fragile eggs.

[512] Go on.

[513] So it was a moment that passed and it wasn't that big of a deal.

[514] But when I woke up the next morning, I was like, I need to say.

[515] something.

[516] I need to do something that I was irresponsible.

[517] I felt just bad.

[518] And the next night, he apologized to all of us in front of everybody.

[519] And it was one of the bravest, coolest, most mature.

[520] Like, I can't tell you how it went from me going like, oh, I have this bad feeling.

[521] And maybe I just need to ignore my bad feeling to like, oh, I work with true adults and fully developed people.

[522] he felt guilty about the incident as well.

[523] Yes.

[524] And so he apologized.

[525] Didn't, didn't like just set it at the table where it happened.

[526] Man, that is vulnerable as fuck.

[527] It's vulnerable.

[528] It's very strong and it's incredibly mature.

[529] And I just I swear to God like when we left, we walked out together and I just said that meant the world to me. Like that was amazing and I felt terrible and, you know, whatever.

[530] But it was like, it's that kind of thing of when you see other people act good, then it gives you permission to do the same thing.

[531] Definitely.

[532] And I feel like that's, that's leadership.

[533] Like, that's, he did a thing that was such a leadership move that I couldn't, I just respect so much where it's like, it's so hard when you do something, even if he had never said a word about it, no one, none of us would have.

[534] It was not a big deal.

[535] It truly wasn't a big deal.

[536] It was fully tonal.

[537] It doesn't matter the thing happened.

[538] It matters so much.

[539] It's not a negative, there's not like a negative repot.

[540] It's like, uh, what's the word?

[541] Yeah.

[542] It was neutral, but he then elevated it to this better point.

[543] Yes.

[544] We're just to express like, I wish I hadn't done that or whatever, which I was just, I don't know.

[545] I love your lives being vulnerable.

[546] It makes your interactions and your connections with people so much more meaningful.

[547] And immediately apologize if you think you're in the wrong.

[548] Just do it.

[549] It will feel so much better.

[550] Like that idea, and it's a great irony that I'm the one saying this right now because this is the hardest thing in the world for me. but to be able to just drop your story and drop your act and just go, oh, I'm really sorry I did that.

[551] Or I'm really, I, you know, like to say what you really feel as opposed to standing behind an argument that actually doesn't matter, like, in 10 years, you would have never remembered the argument, but you remember how awful you felt.

[552] Yeah.

[553] And it was that kind of like, it wasn't just like an apology.

[554] It was like a moment that elevated all of us.

[555] It was beautiful.

[556] It was wonderful.

[557] I'm happy for you.

[558] Thanks.

[559] That was kind of private, but I didn't see.

[560] anybody's name.

[561] Yeah.

[562] And we don't know what happened.

[563] And I know it's a he just because you said him.

[564] And hey, man, that's this business.

[565] You know, oh, am I wrong?

[566] Am I?

[567] Are you wrong?

[568] Are we wrong?

[569] Are we wrong?

[570] Um, hey, we're not.

[571] Hey, thanks for listening.

[572] We're never wrong.

[573] Hey, nope.

[574] We're doing it right again.

[575] There we go.

[576] Yay.

[577] Thanks for listening to the minisode.

[578] Go to my favorite murder all over the internet.

[579] Find us.

[580] And, uh, stay sexy.

[581] Don't get get murdered.

[582] Elvis.

[583] You want a mini cookie?

[584] That was a mini meow.

[585] I was a no. No. No, I know.

[586] I'm good tonight.