94 - Go Get Your Thing

[0] This is exactly right.

[1] Hey, this is exciting.

[2] An all -new season of only murders in the building is coming to Hulu on August 27th.

[3] Steve Martin, Martin Short, and Selena Gomez are back as your favorite podcaster, detectives.

[4] But there's a mystery hanging over everyone.

[5] Who killed Saz?

[6] And were they really after Charles?

[7] Why would someone want to kill Charles?

[8] This season, murder hits close to home.

[9] With a threat against one of their own, the stakes are higher than ever.

[10] Plus, the gang is going to Hollywood to turn their podcast into a major movie.

[11] Amid the glitz and glamour of Los Angeles, more mysteries and twists arise.

[12] Who knows what will happen once the cameras start to roll?

[13] Get ready for the stariest season yet with Merrill Streep, Zach Alfenakis, Eugene Levy, Eva Longoria, Melissa McCarthy, DeVine, Joy Randolph, Molly Shannon, and more.

[14] Only murders in the building, premieres August 27th, streaming only on Hulu.

[15] Goodbye.

[16] Hi!

[17] And welcome to my favorite murder.

[18] the apartment version yeah god forbid we ever do one of these god it's been so long it feels like i know doing like a regular episode you know what i feel like we've discovered in um touring this great nation of ours how me it's difficult to tour this great nation of ours and then come back and immediately start recording podcasts that's not an easy balance to strike it isn't it's a huge difference I think I'm more used to live shows now than I am to this sitting on my couch talking to each other.

[19] Yeah.

[20] And it's also we have to do a bunch of work to do those live shows and then when we come back we have to do a bunch of work to do this version of the show.

[21] Yeah.

[22] Complain, complain, complain.

[23] I mean, you just got to wonder, you know.

[24] It's so true.

[25] You just have to wonder.

[26] That's such a good point.

[27] And wait.

[28] And look and learn.

[29] Look, learn, listen.

[30] And again, wonder.

[31] the end.

[32] And then at the end of the day, you're just left wondering.

[33] You're, you bookend the day wondering and wondering.

[34] Yeah.

[35] But hopefully with like a childlike sense of wonder.

[36] Yeah, I think that's.

[37] And definitely while you watch the wonder years.

[38] I think that's important.

[39] Definitely.

[40] You have to do that.

[41] You have to have Kevin Arnold narrating your life.

[42] Please.

[43] Did I ever brag to you about the time that Fred Savage directed that a TV show I was working on.

[44] No. And he, I was so starstruck by him.

[45] And because he is Kevin Arnold, it's just like, that's who that person is.

[46] He will always be.

[47] And he looks, it's like, it's a grown -up Kevin Arnold.

[48] It's not an actor who's like, oh, yeah, it's fucking.

[49] It's not a version of Kevin Arnold.

[50] It's Kevin Arnold.

[51] And he sounds exactly the same.

[52] And he looks the same.

[53] And he couldn't be a nicer, more talented and more professional person.

[54] So he's the kind of person, and this is very rare in Hollywood, where if he's talking to somebody else and you're standing there, he'll turn and include you in the conversation, which the first time he did that because it was on two broke girls and I was working with Pat Walsh.

[55] So he and Pat Walsh are good friends.

[56] So I haven't you standing there.

[57] So then he just like turned, and it was like the bright shining light of Kevin Arnold was suddenly coming back my way.

[58] It was very upsetting.

[59] And I think I just made a difference.

[60] face and walked away because it was like I didn't realize how starstruck I would be yeah it didn't anyway I would have been too I would be I will be I'm gonna be positive when I meet him one day yeah and I would and I would and I will and I would and I will and I bet you he's used to it because it's one of those things of like there's a there's a generation of people yeah that he talked directly to like once a week totally it's fucking crazy shit this is the wonderment we're talking about yes exactly I finished Mind Hunter today, finally.

[61] And what's your end opinion?

[62] My end game is that I just wanted to be a show about the guy who plays Ed Kemper.

[63] I just want to watch Ed Kemper, the Ed Kemper character, live in love in prison.

[64] I just love the - Well, it would be an amazing show.

[65] I just love that guy.

[66] The guy who plays him is fucking pitch -perfect.

[67] What if he weren't pitch -perfect for?

[68] Is there a four yet?

[69] What if he can sing Acapella group ensemble?

[70] Humble bullshit goes back to college.

[71] He's like, I'm going back to college.

[72] Yes, I want to kill all the women around.

[73] Yes.

[74] But listen to my angelic voice.

[75] Maybe he starts an a cappella thing in prison.

[76] Yes.

[77] Brings everyone together.

[78] And that's how he begins to compete in the pitch perfect universe.

[79] Yes.

[80] And that's how he begins to heal from being a fucking psychopathic murderer piece of shit.

[81] And he finally proves wrong all of the theories that you cannot cure a psychopath.

[82] Right.

[83] Because you actually can cure a psychopath with a A cappella singing.

[84] That's all it takes.

[85] If you can, without any music, with your friends, sing boys to men, well, you're cured.

[86] You're human.

[87] There's hope for all of us, all of us psychopaths.

[88] So then three stars, five stars.

[89] I just, you know, you know me. I'm such a complainer.

[90] I liked so much about it.

[91] I liked a lot about it.

[92] Four stars?

[93] Three and a half stars.

[94] four stars okay what's how many out of how many 12 no an infinite amount so it could be free shit we don't know but four out of infinite is still very low yeah i don't know yeah i'd like to remind you of the wall that had a rainbow painted on it in an apartment that was just presented as like here's an apartment and this is how it's decorated when when the uh dr wendy what's her name was getting in a new apartment and kind of like starting her new life and they the real estate agent was like walking around that apartment they walk into a room and there's just a like really gross colored four colored rainbow painted on the wall that was like a z yeah i stopped and took a picture of that screen with my phone oh my god so good it's so good um i also want to say that the new season of someone knows something came out this week that's right and they fucking just threw them all up at once, which is like fun because then you're like, you can binge the shit.

[95] I'm going to listen to it.

[96] And it's a, I started listening.

[97] It's really good, of course.

[98] And it's about, um, two black teenagers in 1964 who were killed by the Ku Klux Klan in Mississippi and he's fucking going back to investigate it.

[99] Holy shit.

[100] Which is bananas and insane and so important and like fucking kudos to people to podcast like someone knows something in the fall line who are doing important, important work.

[101] yes unfortunately still fucking relevant to shit hell yeah yeah maybe more so yeah well also those guys i mean i actually don't know about the women who do fall line but the guy from someone knows something is a legit journalist yeah yeah he's a that's kind of what he does right so don't feel too bad oh that i oh i know i have no i know that i have nothing i can't come near that rainbow and touch it with my do anything important you could have you painted on your wall in a z pattern Can we talk about that someone from when we were in Florida last weekend doing our live shows where there was also an active serial killer while we were there.

[102] Someone gave us a game, a board game of Guess Who, the game, made into serial killers form.

[103] And it is fucking so cool.

[104] I want to cry.

[105] Yeah.

[106] It's on our Instagram.

[107] I've never actually seen anything but the side of this game because the second this girl pulled out this game.

[108] Georgia clasped onto it and never let it go.

[109] I didn't even ask.

[110] I feel at one point I was like, hey, we should play.

[111] And you're like, uh -huh.

[112] Like, it was just like your baby.

[113] But I have to say I'm too old for that.

[114] I've never played that game.

[115] But you've probably played it with like niece or nephew or whatever.

[116] I've never played that game.

[117] Well, we're going to play and you're going to love it.

[118] I can't wait to play it.

[119] I mean, I know about it.

[120] Yeah.

[121] Go to my favorite murder Instagram to see photos of it.

[122] It's all the like characters that it's like, does your character wear glasses Does your character eat the flesh of his victims?

[123] Like, it's just this flip, flip, flip.

[124] Yeah, it's always Albert Fish.

[125] The Papan sisters are in there.

[126] Ugh.

[127] You know, it's just like, is your character a murdery clown?

[128] No, put him down.

[129] It's just the best.

[130] It's so good.

[131] And it clearly, this girl put in so much work.

[132] Yeah.

[133] It's just, and it's clever.

[134] And so I think that we should play one game before every time you record from now on.

[135] Okay.

[136] Isn't that great?

[137] I just thought of that.

[138] That's great.

[139] And then we'll keep a running tally.

[140] yeah uh and then at the end whoever wins the most games gets $50 ,000 at the end of what at the end of this podcast run that just got real sad at the end of our lives oh god oh and it went on forever and they just wouldn't stop talking about it I mean they just kept talking about it um I would like to say this we uh I believe it was last week put up our ringtone oh yeah and It, I think Stephen immediately was number one.

[141] Yeah, it was somebody on the, on the Facebook posted it originally and was like, within 24 hours was number one.

[142] It was number one on the iTunes ringtone chart, which is fucking hilarious.

[143] And also Billboard.

[144] Did I tell you, Billboard Awards.

[145] What?

[146] I don't even know that was the thing.

[147] What else would it be number one on?

[148] I don't know.

[149] But I was just going to say, and then immediately there was a copycat.

[150] like marimba version right so i text we're in florida and i text stephen i'm like hey what is that did you do that stephen but of course you always forget that through a text it doesn't sound like that so it probably sounded like did you do this stephen did you do that and stephen was like it is not me and then i would got really sad where i'm like that was not a funny joke but um because stephen has written his own version of our we already have somebody to do versions of our theme song.

[151] We don't need other strangers who are doing or just basically do that to all.

[152] It's probably a robot who's working for the fucking Russian government, man. Listen, I'm going to get deep into conspiracy right now.

[153] And there's fucking stealing podcast songs written by Karen in 20 minutes on her fucking acoustic guitar.

[154] This is Putin at his worst.

[155] So what we would like, so Stephen's going to put people have actually tweeted about this and asked a lot about it.

[156] When is Stephen to post his versions.

[157] So we were like, Stephen, you now need to post your version so that if anybody's, if anybody isn't into the ridge, and they're like, hey, what about, what about some salsa aspect or whatever?

[158] Is there a salsa?

[159] I'm not sure.

[160] Can I get one that's influenced by the music of Selena?

[161] Well, yes, you can.

[162] Actually, yes, you can.

[163] And yes, you can.

[164] It's written by one Stephen.

[165] Ray.

[166] William.

[167] Ray.

[168] Did you not know about his confirmation name?

[169] The one you just made up.

[170] So Stephen's going to post his.

[171] Yeah.

[172] Say it.

[173] Yeah, I'm going to post mine.

[174] The Basanova one.

[175] God.

[176] Because the people have been asking about it.

[177] The Bosanova one's legit.

[178] You can listen.

[179] You can download them.

[180] They can be a ringtone for like your grandma or they can be your alarm clock ring in the morning.

[181] The Basanova, that's, you're exactly right.

[182] If you are ashamed to have a kind of like a bizarre pseudo country murder ballad, you can do a version of it that's just going to sound like.

[183] just some fun interstitial marimba music or whatever i just keep changing the style i mean the marimba one would be good too do you have that too uh well no i think the bootleg was copying that because it used the marimbo which i used in the boston fuck you putton somebody putton went after stephen's ass yeah that's right so get mad at it i think that makes us even angrier yeah because you don't go after step yeah we can fight i do dirty I get to.

[184] But Russians don't get to.

[185] No, no, no, no. So anyway, if you want that, when are you going to do it, Stephen?

[186] And when's it going to be up?

[187] Hopefully, maybe it won't.

[188] I don't know if it'll be up.

[189] This weekend, great.

[190] This weekend, yeah.

[191] Soon.

[192] So hold out if you want a version, hold out for Stephen's version.

[193] Please don't support the weird rip -off versions.

[194] And you'll be able to.

[195] No, it's so weird.

[196] But they don't know.

[197] People don't know.

[198] I don't know.

[199] Everyone's trying to make a buck.

[200] Tell me about it.

[201] Right?

[202] Speaking of, we have tickets last.

[203] for our Kansas City show nice transition thank you that it's a Kansas City late show on December 9th it's a Saturday hey Kansas City if you feel like coming come we'll see you there yeah was that did we add a second show yeah we added a second at late show okay all right so they're still available if you want to say you want to drive in from Minneapolis you know maybe you're free that weekend I don't know Karen's offering options give them a brunch option for Sunday morning Karen If, say, for example, you come in for the late show, you're totally free to stay for brunch the next day in that city.

[204] Have a nice brunch.

[205] God, that'd be nice for you.

[206] You love coffee.

[207] You love orange juice.

[208] You always talk about coffee and orange juice.

[209] It's an excuse to eat a Monte Cristo sandwich.

[210] Yes.

[211] Which my mom would always be like, well, we are at brunch.

[212] I'm going to get a Monte Cristo, which is a full -on deep -fried ham sandwich with jelly in it.

[213] And powdered sugar on top.

[214] And powder.

[215] It's like eating French toast.

[216] ham and like toast with jelly all at the same time.

[217] Don't eat them separately.

[218] Yeah.

[219] And privately.

[220] Many, Monique Gristow's a private sandwich.

[221] That's for the dark.

[222] That's for the dark.

[223] Have you watched anything lately?

[224] Because I got one.

[225] Tell me. Alias Grace.

[226] No. The Margaret Outwood one.

[227] What's that?

[228] The Margaret Atwood situation.

[229] Yes.

[230] I know I watched it's a great.

[231] I loved it.

[232] I did that thing, though, where I was binge watching it, so I would fall asleep and then have weird alias grace dreams and then be like, was that the episode or was I sleeping?

[233] Was there a giant frog in it?

[234] I don't know.

[235] And you won't either because no spoiler alerts, but I mean, spoilers, but I loved it.

[236] I thought it was super fascinating and it's really well made.

[237] Yeah, I recommend.

[238] Okay.

[239] I have one thing that I've been watching, but I'm going to save it for my thing that I love at the end of the show.

[240] Okay.

[241] Because it's different.

[242] It's weird.

[243] Perhaps I should have done the same.

[244] Save it.

[245] Save it.

[246] Save it.

[247] Cut it.

[248] Okay.

[249] Um, is that everything?

[250] I think so.

[251] Any corrections corners?

[252] Oh, I have a correction corner.

[253] That fact that people got upset with me that I said that putting your animal on Prozac was very L .A. They're like Hollywood.

[254] And they're like, I live in fucking, I don't know, Florida and my cat's on Prozac.

[255] Like, people were specifically telling me that, You know, which I appreciate.

[256] Do you?

[257] No, I don't.

[258] But I get, but I get it.

[259] There was a couple people in the VIP when we were in Florida.

[260] Thank you, by the way.

[261] I have to say, we had the best time in Florida.

[262] Yeah, we'd agree to.

[263] Tampa, Orlando, Fort Lauderdale.

[264] And everyone there was like, thanks for coming to Florida.

[265] Like, we were doing everybody a big favor.

[266] And we had, the shows were amazing.

[267] So much fun.

[268] Audiences were amazing.

[269] So good.

[270] We had the best time.

[271] And you guys get, you guys get a bum rat.

[272] What with all the, like, people eating each other's faces?

[273] Well, the murder, which is what we came for.

[274] Yes.

[275] So we were not surprised.

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[277] Absolutely.

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[296] Goodbye.

[297] Hey, this is exciting.

[298] An all new season of only murders in the building is coming to Hulu on August 27th.

[299] Steve Martin, Martin Short, and Selena Gomez are back as your favorite podcaster detectives.

[300] But there's a mystery hanging over everyone.

[301] who killed Saz?

[302] And were they really after Charles?

[303] Why would someone want to kill Charles?

[304] This season, murder hits close to home.

[305] With a threat against one of their own, the stakes are higher than ever.

[306] Plus, the gang is going to Hollywood to turn their podcast into a major movie.

[307] Amid the glitz and glamour of Los Angeles, more mysteries and twists arise.

[308] Who knows what will happen once the cameras start to roll?

[309] Get ready for the stariest season yet with Merrill Streep, Zach Alfenakis, Eugene Levy, Eva Longoria, Melissa McCarthy, Davey, Joy Randolph, Molly Shannon and more.

[310] Only murders in the building premieres August 27th, streaming only on Hulu.

[311] Goodbye.

[312] Now, who goes first?

[313] I went first.

[314] I went first in Fort Lauderdale, right?

[315] Okay.

[316] That's you then.

[317] It is.

[318] Here's the exciting surprise.

[319] I'm not sure if I've ever, if I've done this before.

[320] What?

[321] Yeah.

[322] How?

[323] I mean okay well it'll be if you don't know then I won't know I can't tell you how many times I have texted Stephen and been like sorry is this like it goes from like is Georgia doing this one when we're on the road yeah to then like have we ever done this one well I've done that before I've had to look it up because you just see the same name so many times over and over and you have to like look for details to remember which fucking piece of shit was the murderer that you're like looking for at this moment?

[324] Also, we talk about things sometimes without doing them, which is what I think I'm remembering on this one.

[325] Yeah.

[326] But I could be wrong.

[327] I'm excited.

[328] Let's just tell me. Let's do this.

[329] It's the bloody benders.

[330] Which ones are they?

[331] Tell, why don't you tell me?

[332] Okay.

[333] Well, then that's a very good sign.

[334] Yeah.

[335] Well, no, it's not because I have a terrible memory.

[336] Fuck.

[337] Okay, go.

[338] That's the most disappointed sigh.

[339] I wish I could be doing better right now.

[340] But I'm almost positive.

[341] I haven't.

[342] I just know that there's a really good dollop about it that I've heard.

[343] I have also that thing where all of my memories are starting to just bleed into each other where it's like, did I do the podcast myself or did I hear the dollop?

[344] Right.

[345] Right.

[346] Am I, I don't, I don't, I, that name sounds familiar, but I don't think we've done it.

[347] All right.

[348] I'll tell you about it.

[349] Tell me about it.

[350] Tell me about them.

[351] Let me tell you a little about how about.

[352] Um, and I actually at one point today, because I had part of it done, I called my sister because she wasn't doing anything.

[353] I'm like, can you please find me some articles that I can read like in the midst.

[354] So this was a real um this was a real 11th hour super special one.

[355] Um, uh, but one, the main spot that I got like to me the best information.

[356] It was from an article on a website called ranker, which I don't think we talk about that much.

[357] I love rankers so much.

[358] It is every time there's a ranker link that article will give me the biggest best chunk of information.

[359] Yep.

[360] it's so good I that's my late at night reading like 15 EMTs tell you their most gruesome fucking thing that ever happened to them or like it's just those crazy lists yeah and they have endless true crime shit and serial killer shit endless yeah endless and there's so the woman that wrote this article is named Kat McCalliffe and I'm positive that I've read her stuff on either also on Ranker or on other websites too so she wrote a couple of these articles about the bloody benders.

[361] So, um, so thank you, Kat Magala for the all the work you do enabling me to do much, much less work.

[362] Okay.

[363] So in 1870, a family of German immigrant homesteaders named the benders made their way by wagon to LeBet County, Kansas, and settled on 160 acre farm located directly, directly like on the Osage trail.

[364] A hundred percent.

[365] You've never done this.

[366] Really?

[367] A hundred percent.

[368] Okay.

[369] Thank God.

[370] Because this is one of my favorites, and I wanted to do it for a long time, and I don't know why I haven't.

[371] I guess I just never, I lost track of it.

[372] We lost track after college.

[373] Okay, good.

[374] That makes me happy.

[375] So first the men went out.

[376] So it was John Sr. And the son, John Jr., they went, and they built a barn, they built a cabin, they dug a well.

[377] And then the mother, Elvira, who was also known as Kate, and then the sister.

[378] named daughter named Kate.

[379] Elvira.

[380] Like Kate Jr. Kate Jr. Kate Jr. Kate and Kate Jr. Elvira or Kate, senior.

[381] Yeah, they're very similar.

[382] They arrived in 1871.

[383] And they bought livestock.

[384] They had like a farm.

[385] There was an orchard that was on the property.

[386] And so basically they, the cabin that they built was pretty big.

[387] So it became the Bender Inn.

[388] And so the front of the cabin was a general store.

[389] and like the inn and then it was divided by the canvas that they put over their covered wagon they took it off their covered wagon and then they put it up to serve as the divider between their private rooms and then the store and the rustic you know you'd see that on HGTV now I'd love to pull down this canvas and just open up this space so we could see right into the orchard see the lice canvas Can we get that down?

[390] The smallpox canvas?

[391] Could we cut some circular holes?

[392] I think circular would be an amazing shape to see in this canvas.

[393] And then, of course, the lice.

[394] It'd be lovely to see the lice.

[395] I'd love to see the lice backlit so that I can see the patterns that they're making in the canvas.

[396] Beautiful.

[397] Okay, so they all basically, they're pitching and they're like, we're going to have this place and it's this stopover.

[398] So at the time, of course, there were, it's, you know, it's the late, mid to late 19th century America.

[399] So there's all these, they're moving.

[400] Trails.

[401] And they're telling people you can come settle here.

[402] And then you can also, on your way, you can go out to the west.

[403] Yeah.

[404] Hey, we own this piece of land now, everyone.

[405] Exactly.

[406] Go get your thing.

[407] I'm sure there's all kinds of details that people who care about history.

[408] No, I think go get your thing.

[409] go get your thing who sums it up pretty much exactly go get your thing said a man in charge and everyone went thank you yeah so they got their thing yeah they were like i fought in the civil war fuck this shit i'm out of here i want to go to california i want to get my own thing surf smoke weed yeah so the osage trail was one of the ways people went out to west went out west and so the benders saw that that was an opportunity they could build this spot and have this i keep calling it a stop over.

[410] There's a better word for it.

[411] I don't know what it is.

[412] But basically they could get provisions there and spend the night or just get their stuff and go, but it would be like this central spot.

[413] Also, the daughter Kate claimed to be a psychic and a spiritualist who could talk with the dead.

[414] So the locals that became a word of mouth thing where then the locals were also coming there just to, you know, tell their grandfather they love them and stuff like that.

[415] Or ask where they hid the key to the to the safe.

[416] To the horse.

[417] Yes.

[418] The horse won't start.

[419] Please.

[420] Ask your father.

[421] And I was like thinking, why would people travel to go get like their palm red or whatever?

[422] It's like, because there's no TV.

[423] There's nothing.

[424] Nothing to do but fuck and get your palm red.

[425] And then read that old Bible.

[426] Someone brought in their wagon with them.

[427] And also stare at the lice canvas.

[428] So this place kind of became a place to be.

[429] I think of it as the Wendy's on the five.

[430] Yeah.

[431] That's by the split P. Anderson's.

[432] But also is attached to a like convenience store gas station and has a subway.

[433] Exactly.

[434] So if you don't want to do fast food.

[435] Some people in the car don't want to eat fast food ever.

[436] Ugh.

[437] But hey, everyone's got.

[438] Then also if you need gummy bears, it's there.

[439] They're all there.

[440] Yeah.

[441] well the bender started that okay let's attribute it to okay it was their thing that was kind of their jam okay um so uh uh oh okay i said they all work there right yeah okay i said i actually wrote the sentence this was the time of great expansion what the fuck what am i even talking about i don't know if that's true or not i know nothing about it it probably was i mean i think it was generally Listen, our great nation was growing.

[442] It's the Oregon Trail was happening.

[443] The video game, the Oregon Trail was happening at the time.

[444] Kids were playing the Oregon Trail in libraries across the nation.

[445] Dysentery everywhere, you know.

[446] Don't forget the Donner Party was in there somewhere.

[447] Go in and get your jelly beans.

[448] Go.

[449] This is your time.

[450] To the, yeah.

[451] Sasparilla.

[452] Sasparilla.

[453] The end.

[454] Goodbye.

[455] Oh, so.

[456] The thing about this, obviously, here's what I do know for a fact.

[457] Okay, tell me. That a lot of, there was obviously tons of immigrants in America, as we do.

[458] So a lot of these travelers had already come off a boat.

[459] They'd already been traveling.

[460] And they were like, we got to go get that big chunk of land, the government said we could have or however they were going to do it.

[461] And they were basically like, get in there and get through.

[462] So they didn't have, you know, maybe they had their immediate family, but that was it.

[463] So if people were traveling, they weren't expected back anywhere.

[464] No one was like, whoa, you didn't hit your mark.

[465] You didn't, you said you were coming on the 28th.

[466] And how would you even know?

[467] Call Western Union.

[468] Exactly.

[469] You send a letter in seven months later, it somehow finds someone.

[470] So the, this helped the vendors because the vendors were not what they seemed to be.

[471] Were they bloody?

[472] They were the bloody, bloody, bloody benders.

[473] It might just be one bloody, but, um.

[474] Well, now it's two.

[475] I love to goose it.

[476] So, um, when people stop.

[477] along the way, they tended to disappear when they stayed at the bender end.

[478] And a lot of people didn't notice because there were just these people that were passing through.

[479] Yeah.

[480] But someone did notice when a man named George Lanchet, I'm going to pronounce it French, but it could be launcher.

[481] But I'm going to say George Lanchet and his infant daughter stopped at the Bender Inn.

[482] They were on their way to Ohio.

[483] They were from Kansas and they never returned home.

[484] And their neighbor, Dr. Henry, William Henry York, was a prominent doctor.

[485] And he immediately noticed when they didn't come back when George said he was coming back.

[486] And he set out to go find them.

[487] But he did the brilliant thing that you always do before you're about to go do something, especially by yourself.

[488] You tell a bunch of fucking people what you're doing and where you're going and why.

[489] You communicate.

[490] So Dr. William Henry York was a prominent doctor.

[491] he had a brother who was a colonel, Colonel Ed York, and his other brother, Alexander York, was a senator.

[492] So he informed the superstar York brothers.

[493] He was like, hey, I'm going to try to go find my neighbor.

[494] Something weird has happened that he didn't come back.

[495] So then when Dr. William Henry York didn't come back, the superstar brothers were like something really where it's happening.

[496] So the colonel, Ed York, got a posse of 50 soldiers.

[497] to come with him and they just started searching every single homestead along the Osage trail because they were like this is fucked yeah and um when they got to the bender in it was March 28th 1873 and um the colonel explained to the benders that he was looking for his brother and the benders told him yes his brother did stay there but then he left and there's a probably a good chance that he had a run in with some of the Native Americans nearby.

[498] And they, so the colonel left, they continued searching on, but as they asked more people around, they started hearing these stories of fucked up shit that was happening to people at the benders.

[499] So there was a woman that told them a story of getting chased out of the bender in with knives.

[500] Oh my gosh.

[501] And then upon hearing that, he was like, we're going back there.

[502] Right.

[503] So they go back and they have another conversation.

[504] with them if you I highly recommend listening to the the dollup because Dave did so much fucking research yeah it's so hilarious and the there's a whole standoff that happens when they go back when they go back to reject because the first pass is like oh it's just this nice family yeah you would never think twice about you know the son the daughter everyone's sweet and kind when they go back it's the vibe is a little bit different and the colonel knows he can't just arrest them he has to have proof he has to have a warrant to search the house whatever so he's like yeah i'm going to be back well they go to get that warrant and when they come back the benders are gone the whole cabin is empty and when they go into the house the cabin to search it they first notice there's absolutely nothing inside then the smell hits and it is a smell that's so bad and they they finally realize it's coming from this trap door oh dear And it's so bad, they open the trapdoor and no one can stay inside the cabin.

[505] Oh, my God.

[506] They end up having to take the cabin off its foundation so they can look in the cellar.

[507] Oh, my God.

[508] Because no one could do it.

[509] And when they see into the cellar, the cellar floor is covered in congealed blood.

[510] Ew.

[511] I bet it's so hot out in the middle of there, too, right?

[512] Probably.

[513] Ew.

[514] So gross.

[515] So then they know something bad is going to happen.

[516] and they're like, everyone's freaking out, but there's no bodies, there's no body parts or anything down there.

[517] It's just congealed blood.

[518] It's just congealed blood.

[519] So they're like, holy shit.

[520] Yeah.

[521] So the colonel goes up, and now I'm going to, now I'm going to just tell a little white lie because this is how I pictured in my mind, but I do not.

[522] I don't even think there's very many hills in Kansas, so it's probably not how I picture it.

[523] But he basically went and got like a bird's eye view somehow of the land.

[524] So either he went up on a little hill.

[525] is how I like to picture it and like look down on it or he just kind of got got back a bit and he noticed drone he got a drone he got a drone out he got a drone which was just a hawk um and he noticed that there were depressions in the apple orchard soil oh dear right I thought of your pig people dude my pig people no stone unturned that's one of the ways that they find clandestine graves is those And they say there's only certain times of day when you can tell where the shadow's going if there's a depression in the soil.

[526] Crazy.

[527] Like if you look at it at sunset, you can see that the shadows are fucked up and there's a depression.

[528] Yeah, it's really cool.

[529] No, I love it.

[530] That's all I thought of when I got to that part where I'm like, I wonder if either he had so much experience being a colonel that he had seen stuff like that before or if it just like hit him of like, that's not right.

[531] Right.

[532] Either way, they took metal rods and they started poking the earth in the orchard.

[533] It's stinky.

[534] And there was some, obviously, there was some ground that was hard and solid and then they would come upon really soft ground.

[535] Oh, my God.

[536] So the first time they did that, they started digging and almost immediately they found the body of Dr. William York.

[537] Oh.

[538] He was barely, he was barely down in the ground.

[539] Wow.

[540] So they uncover him and then they start uncovering other bodies.

[541] Holy shit.

[542] And they end up finding eight buried bodies in the orchard alone.

[543] Wow.

[544] But some of the graves are so deep that they, like, that they're like, they're realizing, oh, there could be tons of people buried out here and we just wouldn't know it because they could have buried 10 people in one grave this deep.

[545] They also found a father and daughter in a single grave.

[546] and there was no injuries on the girl except for she had a broken arm, but other than that, nothing, and they think they buried her alive.

[547] Oh, no. And put the dead body of her father on top of her.

[548] Oh, no, no. Yeah, just to really, um, just to really bum you out.

[549] So, um, let's see.

[550] So based on the injuries of the dead bodies that they dug up, they put together the story of, what they figured the benders were doing okay so they would have somebody that would be check into the inn and then that night it would they would come to dinner at the dinner table and they would always seat that person at the head of the table with their back the guests back to the canvas divider oh my god the canvas that looks so pretty the gorgeous lice canvas oh no so at some point um and i like to picture that they get them nice and drunk so they're having a real good time what do they have mead what do they drink back then back then i would say it's some kind of a beer right yeah blood cellar beer yeah okay um so at some point in the dinner either john senior or john junior not not not a virea senior or kate junior goes behind the canvas and hits them in the head with a hammer Knocks them out And then Kate slits their throat The little girl or the mom?

[551] The girl.

[552] Kate Jr. Why does she do it?

[553] That was her jam?

[554] No. I'm not sure why they think she did it.

[555] Maybe, I mean, maybe it was something about the mother that she couldn't do it or whatever.

[556] Like she was a strong one.

[557] But then they had this trap door.

[558] So they would just drop the dead body down the trap door into the cellar.

[559] And so that that was all gone and away.

[560] And so that basically they could do that and get away with it.

[561] And there could be people in the general store.

[562] There could be people in the inn.

[563] And they could like just get rid of these people.

[564] And then they would rob them.

[565] And they would get, you know, a lot of these people had stuck all their stuff in their covered wagon.

[566] Yeah.

[567] And they had everything that they owned and had tons of money on them and tons of valuables on them.

[568] And the benders just took it all.

[569] But they also noted.

[570] that there were some people that they only got a dollar off of or $10.

[571] So they said this was actually like a serial killing family because sometimes they just did it to do it.

[572] Wow.

[573] Yeah.

[574] Because it wouldn't be, it wouldn't even make sense to kill a person who just had four bucks in their pocket.

[575] It was like it would actually draw attention and not be the best idea, but they did it anyway.

[576] So.

[577] Buckers.

[578] Right?

[579] At the time, Senator York, the other fancy brother, offered a $1 ,000 reward.

[580] for the bender's arrest, which is the equivalent today of $20 ,000.

[581] Holy shit.

[582] And then the governor of Kansas put up a $2 ,000 reward, so $40 ,000.

[583] Oh, my God.

[584] But despite all the reward money, the benders were never caught.

[585] They were never seen again.

[586] What?

[587] They were, they went, they disappeared.

[588] No. Yes.

[589] Now, there was all kinds of people who said they saw them places that gave weird information.

[590] There were people who confessed to being the benders.

[591] Um, it was, you know, it was like a huge story, but they themselves were never found.

[592] Jesus.

[593] There was a story that there was a boat in Mexico that, uh, was out at sea in the Gulf of Mexico and a balloon, a hot air balloon crashed onto the deck of the boat.

[594] What the fuck?

[595] And the benders were inside.

[596] And, uh, and Elvira John Sr. and Kate all died in the crash.

[597] Josh, John Jr. survived and did a deathbed confession of where the benders, we killed all these people, my father made, or whoever he was, that John Sr. was a hot air balloon maker in Germany.

[598] And he's been making this hot air balloon for our escape.

[599] And that's like that's how he got there.

[600] No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You lost me about about.

[601] What?

[602] No. That balloon perfectly landed, crash landed onto the bow of a boat.

[603] Onto three murderous members of a family.

[604] It's like, I think, I think that's how Wizard of Oz started.

[605] It is, it's, they, shut up.

[606] They took, well, that's from the Wizard of Oz.

[607] I mean, there is that part.

[608] Remember?

[609] There were men in my town.

[610] No. Oh, no. He's, remember he's going to leave, it's the end.

[611] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[612] Oh, shit.

[613] Yeah.

[614] He's going to leave and then she's like, I'm not going with you.

[615] And like, and then tap your shoes together.

[616] And tap your shoes and then kill travelers.

[617] Wow.

[618] And then kill travelers.

[619] Anyway, that's just like a story somebody had, which is kind of genius.

[620] But ultimately, what they ended up finding out after all of it, there were no official papers that proved that they were actually a family.

[621] So what it is believed is that Elvira a .k .a. Kate Sr. and Kate Jr. were mother and daughter.

[622] John Sr. was not related to anybody by blood.

[623] John Jr. was not related to anybody by blood.

[624] And they think, actually, Kate Jr. and John Jr. were husband and wife, common law.

[625] Oh.

[626] And that they were all, they were basically a gang of thugs.

[627] That got together.

[628] That got together.

[629] And we're like, if we pretend we're a family, people will trust us.

[630] Totally.

[631] We can't just be four randos that are sitting in a cabin going like, coming by oats from us.

[632] But if we're like, come to the Bender family in, people would be like, oh, thank God.

[633] Yeah.

[634] Biscuits and a good conversation with the benders.

[635] And so they, that it was like a scam from the setup.

[636] Where do you think they went?

[637] You know what's so cool is that someone listening, I bet right now is related to the vendors.

[638] Yes.

[639] And knows way more good stuff.

[640] Or doesn't know anything.

[641] Oh, is just like slowly realizing?

[642] Yeah.

[643] Or like someone and they'll never know.

[644] it's like someone's great great great not that great great great aunt is elvira yes or great grandparents are john and kate who just were like plus eight they went out of eight kids all at once in indiana yeah let's see i think that oh the other rumor was that elvira um elvira had as many as five husbands before the bender in you know event and all of them died by blunt force trauma to the head but that is hot goss and i think also unproven but that was just basically like they you know people try you love a black widow i love a black widow you love a vintage black widow there's something so it's almost like women were so oppressed that some women busted out in a way that, like, they just went bad shit crazy.

[645] Yeah.

[646] Where it's like, oh, you're going to oppress me. Watch how I kill everybody.

[647] Yeah.

[648] And get away with it in that way of like, she's so sweet.

[649] She's so nice.

[650] No one ever expected.

[651] I never suspected.

[652] Suspected.

[653] Suspected.

[654] Suspect.

[655] Or expected.

[656] You know, it's a true crime podcast.

[657] And I don't know the words of suspect.

[658] All in all, the bloody benders were believed to have killed at least a dozen people.

[659] possibly over 20 oh my god yeah and that is it what if okay what what if hH homes i feel like hH homes must be involved in this somewhere he was friends with them he knew them yes it's a similar thing they have it they have an end they have a place where people come and stay yes what if i don't know if the timeline matches up i think it does this because this is about 10 years before age homes hH homes is john jr yes he is and he got a taste for it we solved it he was like Like, he was watching Kate slit the throats.

[660] He was, you know, he was hit in the back of the head, but on the other side of the canvas.

[661] He's like, I got to get more of a first person.

[662] Yeah.

[663] This is fun, but I'd like to do something a little crazier.

[664] And a little nicer.

[665] Cabins are, this is a trashy.

[666] Yeah.

[667] Let's do a hotel.

[668] Oh, also, they call, they, people took the cabin apart by hand.

[669] Uh -huh.

[670] And I think they, they think kept, kept it for, you know.

[671] Do we know where it is?

[672] we visit it can we spend the night there yes it's now called hell's acre and they can we camp on the ground i don't think so because they say it's haunted no that you could still do it though well but it's totally cleared they think there's bodies out there that they know what we're about and they've like ghost shows have gone there well we're we're going for a live show right to have it in to put on a live show in the center of hell's acre uh -huh well great i'll see you'll see you after yeah okay that's them dude that's great i know i never i didn't know that thank fucking god no what a night that's why i was like oh i i wish i knew this for a fact but like these days when i'm 80 % sure or something it immediately drops to 30 % sure yeah i just kind of don't know anything anymore So you know that we have, someone made us a Wikipedia, and I think it lists each episode.

[673] Is that true, Stephen?

[674] It's shaking his head, yes.

[675] He knows.

[676] It's, they list every episode and what each, what, so you can control F and put in Bender.

[677] Did it come up?

[678] No, then you've never done the goddamn Bender's.

[679] Well, hell yes.

[680] I know I had to do it because I was like, have I done this murder once?

[681] It's nice that we're getting to that point.

[682] I mean, like, it's exciting that this has gone on long enough that we're in this area.

[683] Yeah, I mean, until we play our last.

[684] game of guess who this is going to go on for a long fucking time and we're not going to remember this shit we're going to be little old ladies being like did I ever do Theodore Bundy now Stephen I am interested in Theodore Bundy what about him um great thank you thank you that was great mine is a murderous family too is it kind of it's a couple yeah all right like a month or two ago someone on one of the platforms said you guys should watch this movie called Hounds of Love.

[685] Okay.

[686] And I'd never heard of it.

[687] It's an Australian movie, like a thriller.

[688] And I was like, I was alone, Vince was out.

[689] I was like, I'm just going to fucking watch it.

[690] Put it on, get it on Amazon.

[691] And then my mind was fucking blown.

[692] Shit.

[693] The most, it's, okay, here, let's do this.

[694] It is loosely, they say loosely, but it is very, very, not loosely based on this crime.

[695] Okay.

[696] On this murderous couple from Australia.

[697] And I wanted to do this couple when we were in Australia, but I ended up not doing them.

[698] So when I watched this movie, I kind of knew some of the details.

[699] Oh, okay.

[700] And the movie is incredible because the acting is so fucking good, but I swear to God, if you are faint of heart, you're not going to like this movie.

[701] Vince would have fucking, if you're not into true crime, hardcore, you're not going to like this movie.

[702] Because it's so upsetting.

[703] It's upsetting and so realistic.

[704] And but it was, it's like one of the favorite movies I've watched because it's so good.

[705] Like Vince would have been like, this is troubling.

[706] I can't watch this.

[707] And I'd be like, yeah, me too.

[708] It's very troubling.

[709] But really, I would have been like, I can't wait to watch.

[710] It's so good.

[711] Okay.

[712] It is very troubling.

[713] Oh, I'm really disturbed by this.

[714] This is wrong.

[715] This is wrong.

[716] And then he goes to bed and I like put it on.

[717] So that movie's called Hounds of Love.

[718] Watch it after I tell you about this.

[719] Okay.

[720] About what it is based on, even though the director said it's not or the writer said it's not the more house murders okay everyone in perth australia's like fuck yes right now nice okay perth perth sorry we didn't come there perth again our apologies all a problem we'll be we'll be there one day someday someday okay let's start on november 10th 1986 so this takes place in the 80s 86 a fucking crazy hysterical barely dressed 17 year old girl in this suburb of perth runs into a vacuum cleaner shop and begs the shop owner to call the police that she had just been raped and she had been kidnapped and had just escaped.

[721] Whoa.

[722] When police got there, she said she'd been abducted at 9th point by a couple who had taken her back to their house and raped her and held her captive.

[723] The police are fucking like bullshit, skeptical at her.

[724] They pass her up to one of their most inexperienced police members.

[725] So it's Constable Laura Hancock's first day on the job.

[726] No!

[727] No!

[728] She's 22 years old.

[729] Oh, no. This is her first statement she's ever taken.

[730] Holy shit.

[731] They take this seven history, not historical, like this 17 year old girl to her who has a story and they say to her, hey, this, you need to take notes on this to write her up for lying for making up a story.

[732] Like they don't believe it at all.

[733] And they're like, here you go, constable fucking Laura Hancock.

[734] Do some paperwork.

[735] Do some paperwork.

[736] Get this chick off of out of here.

[737] Oh.

[738] Um, so Miss Laura Hancock, of course, or Constable Laura Hancock, of course, is a female and has empathy.

[739] So she was like, hang on a minute.

[740] There's a lot of details about this.

[741] And she is too, and she's telling it too emotionally, but like emphatically that this isn't fake.

[742] Yeah.

[743] She describes getting a lift from a couple while walking home the night before.

[744] Um, they put the knife to her and they chain her in their home in, on Morehouse Street.

[745] and she had escaped in the morning by breaking through a window and running.

[746] And this ends the four -week killing spree at the hands of a couple that left four other women dead.

[747] Oh, my God.

[748] Okay, so let's go.

[749] Let's talk about the fucking motherfucking shitty -ass couple, these assholes.

[750] David Bernie, it's the Bernies.

[751] David Bernie is born February 16th, 1951.

[752] He's the eldest of five children, super dysfunctional family.

[753] The parent, his parents go to ask the priest for permission to get married.

[754] And the priest is like, I don't think that this can lead to anything good.

[755] His parents say that about his parents getting married.

[756] Oh, my God.

[757] He grows up in a suburb of Perth.

[758] There's rumors that the family, the mom's super promiscuous.

[759] There's alcoholism.

[760] There's incest going on.

[761] The house is filthy.

[762] The kids have no supervision.

[763] The mother has a mental age of 14.

[764] Oh, no. Really fucked up family life.

[765] Don't feel bad for him.

[766] He's a murderer.

[767] Okay.

[768] That's right.

[769] Catherine Harrison, she's also born in 1951.

[770] She's two years old when her mother, Doreen, dies, giving birth to her brother.

[771] Brother also dies the baby.

[772] Father can't cope, so he sends her to live with her maternal grandparents.

[773] At 10, she gets sent back to her father.

[774] It's just a really, her whole childhood is fucked up.

[775] Yeah, just basically adults letting her know that she's kind of not welcome anywhere.

[776] not welcome not wanted her mom is dead oh so both of these people you know normally i would be much more sympathetic to these poor children being raised in this awful way of course i would but i've been studying what they've done for you know a while now and yeah you just can't yeah you can't you can't okay by 14 david and katherine are in a relationship they lived in the same town they started doing petty crimes together, and Catherine eventually gets caught and sent to prison, and she breaks free from David, who was, by all accounts, really controlling.

[777] And so they had had this tumultuous relationship.

[778] By her 21st birthday, she's married to the son of the family she's a housekeeper for.

[779] I bet they loved that.

[780] I know, right?

[781] That family.

[782] Yeah, I think they were a well -to -do family.

[783] That's like the plot of 1 ,000 Downton Abbey's.

[784] Like, what?

[785] You're marrying the maid?

[786] Exactly.

[787] By the time David's an adolescent, he'd been convicted of several crimes.

[788] He had attempted a rape on an elderly woman and spent time in and out of prison.

[789] In his early 20s, he marries his wife and they have a daughter.

[790] Catherine has seven children with the housekeeper dude guy.

[791] They have seven kids.

[792] Sorry, I was going to say that's old school Irish Catholic.

[793] Right.

[794] That's a lot of kids.

[795] Her first son, though, as a baby, is struck and killed by a car.

[796] in front of her.

[797] No. Yeah.

[798] In their like driveway.

[799] No. So if she's already fucking crazy, she's got to be out of her mind by that point.

[800] I mean, hell yes.

[801] So in 1985, Catherine, abandons her husband and six children and goes to live with David.

[802] They get back together.

[803] Wow.

[804] At this point.

[805] I mean, I have to say, when you were talking about being 14 and doing crimes together, I got a little like, oh, like there is something to that that I can see would be really bonding and very exciting.

[806] Well, what's really crazy about this, and there's so many aspects of it that don't make sense when you look at serial killers.

[807] And one of them is like, if these two people hadn't been together with these things have happened.

[808] Yes.

[809] And I think, and so they kind of, it's like they were made for each other because they were both fucking awful.

[810] Yeah.

[811] You know?

[812] Yes.

[813] And, yeah.

[814] Yeah.

[815] It's like when you meet someone and you both hate the same people.

[816] yeah only like times a thousand and then you kill those people yes and then then then you make a list you write it down you both agree yeah all right okay so katherine and david they're in their adults now they get back together they move in together they're like we're we're it's you and me we're bonnie and clide all that bullshit do you have any idea where they remet like it was it just did they pass in the grocery store yeah you got a wonder i want to know really i know that i couldn't find that anywhere was there some kind of a dating video dating service in their town he was his first wife he was cheating on her constantly and he even put an ad in the paper saying bored husband looking for sex because he was a crazy sex addicts like kind of um perverted and you know was just needing to bone all the fucking time yeah the the marriage broke up when he had their 16 -year -old babysitter move into the house to sleep with him.

[817] Dude.

[818] And his wife was like, get the fuck out of here.

[819] His wife's like, you know what?

[820] Yeah.

[821] This plus all that laundry I have to do.

[822] I'm done.

[823] Go bye.

[824] The romance is gone.

[825] So these are some fucked up characters to begin with.

[826] So Catherine moves in with David.

[827] She changes her last name to Bernie, even though they didn't get married.

[828] They moved into a house in Willa, in Perth, southwest, on a street called Moorhouse.

[829] So that's why it's the Moor House murders.

[830] For more than a year after getting together, David and Catherine, okay, David looks like, you know, Julia Louise Riefus's husband in Veep, the tall, skinny guy with a tall, long nose?

[831] I do.

[832] What's his name?

[833] The actor?

[834] Dave Pasquazzi.

[835] How do you?

[836] Because I know him in real life.

[837] Do you?

[838] Yes.

[839] I was in a pilot with him long, long ago.

[840] You know every famous person.

[841] It's crazy.

[842] If you hang around this domedown long enough, you meet everyone.

[843] He looks exactly like him.

[844] Perfect.

[845] It is so uncanny.

[846] I want to show you a photo right now.

[847] Yes, I have to see one.

[848] And then, so that's what he looks like.

[849] And Catherine looks like if Juliette Louis was normal.

[850] oh god for a second i was going to be like is this some kind of a vapory view juliet louis okay juliet louis the actress and musician if she were a basic bitch like normal looking like 80s you know beige wearing person like bad shirts yeah okay that's what she would look like exciting and the actors in the movie hounds of love look exactly like them here she karen steven's showing karen a photo right now am i right yes but i have to say oh my god that's so funny which part the well first of all the juliet lewis woman is is looks like she's a pretty hot leaded hard to grab a life like yeah it does not moisturize no but did you ever see district nine yeah the actor or chappie or any of those south um um south african chatea copely is that his name Jesus, you too?

[851] Oh, my God.

[852] We're going to go to a trivia night.

[853] I think that guy looks like him.

[854] Yeah, I can see that for sure.

[855] It's that.

[856] It's just this like long, prominent nose, just like jaw line, really thin, wiry, like, he was a mechanic.

[857] So he looks, has a mechanic sinewy body.

[858] Yep.

[859] I get it.

[860] I get it.

[861] Yeah.

[862] Oh, my God.

[863] But also this guy's, David Bernie's eyes.

[864] Dead.

[865] frightening.

[866] Yeah, hers, too.

[867] If you see her, like, they both are clear, clear sociopaths.

[868] And you'll find out more so when I tell you what they did.

[869] Okay.

[870] All right.

[871] That was fun.

[872] All right.

[873] Hollywood Corner.

[874] Hollywood Corner.

[875] So they get back together and they start fucking feeding their crazy sexual fantasies that they have about rape and murder that the two of them both have.

[876] And they start reading books about how to commit the perfect murder, what they could do.

[877] They even call around town to find out where they could leave a car of one of their, if they find a victim and have to like abandon a car, where can they leave it the longest without being detected?

[878] And it turns out it's actually at the fucking police station.

[879] What?

[880] Which they end up doing with this their first victim.

[881] What?

[882] Okay.

[883] On October 6th, 1986, 22 -year -old Mary Nielsen, she's studying psychology at a university.

[884] She goes to the Bruny's house because, She had needed to buy tires, went to the mechanic place where David Bernie worked, and he was like, oh, you know, actually, I have some tires.

[885] I can sell you for on the cheap.

[886] They're just at my house.

[887] You just need to come there.

[888] And she's like great.

[889] She's a student.

[890] She's trying to save money.

[891] No. No, never.

[892] Yes.

[893] Tires belong in a tire shop.

[894] Yeah.

[895] Yes.

[896] In a stack.

[897] Yeah.

[898] In front of the tire shop.

[899] You sit in the air conditioned fucking office and read.

[900] And you read of an old highlights magazine while you wait.

[901] just wait and you wait and they get everything gets done on the promises yeah the end the end uh so she goes to the house to get the tires he immediately gags her chains her to the bed and rapes her while katherine watches and takes notes what yeah so katherine is in on this completely yeah she's taken to uh glan eagles national park which was their dumping around and And as she begs for her life, she's raped and strangled with a nylon cord.

[902] And when she's dead, he stabs her knowing it would speed up decomposition because they had read about it in the murder books.

[903] Fuck.

[904] So they're just animals?

[905] They're monsters.

[906] Yeah.

[907] And they were planning on, planning this.

[908] They're organized monsters.

[909] They're organized monsters.

[910] This first, Mary Nielsen, their first victim kind of just happened by circumstance.

[911] but as we'll see that's not what happened next yeah um so it was just an active opportunity and they just wanted to get away with the perfect murder so um so their their actual plan though is that the sun sets and they go hunting for victims in the car they scope out the streets any woman who was alone they would offer a ride and it's a fucking nice looking young couple who's like hi do you need a ride you know it's that that thing and they They do it so perfectly in the movie Hounds of Love that you, it's, the movie is so realistic.

[912] It's creepy.

[913] So, sorry, what years that movie from?

[914] Is it recent?

[915] Yeah, it's in the past year or two.

[916] Oh, okay.

[917] Um, I think.

[918] So, but it looks like the 80s.

[919] It's like, it's such a good movie.

[920] But, but, but, but, all right.

[921] So they would, they would, uh, two weeks later, they were cruising looking for their next victim.

[922] They spot a 15 year old high school student, Susanna Candy.

[923] as she's hitchhiking along Stirling Highway and Claremont.

[924] So within seconds of getting into the car with this nice couple, and in the movie, they even had a baby seat in the backseat, which is like, I don't know if that's really what happened, but there's a knife to her throat and her hands are bound.

[925] She's taken back to the house.

[926] She's gagged, chained to the bed, and raped.

[927] Then they force Susanna to send letters to her family, assuring them that she's all right, but of course the family doesn't believe it and fears for her life yeah after they finish raping susanna katherine burney uh gets into bed with them and they rape her together he tries to strangle her with a nylon cord but she becomes hysterical this is really fucked up by the way i should be started with no no no i mean but it i think it's that it is that thing of a complicit wife to a serial killer to a serial rapist is so beyond the pale it's just so odd and so hard to comprehend in any way and the only way i was able to even wrap my mind around what how and what was this movie right so i think i i didn't think i was planning on doing this the murder even though i had read about it until i saw this movie and it it was yeah it just made sense in a way that was so troubling yeah and it also is the thing of like so many times i've wanted to do the girl in the box the story of the woman who is and she was also kidnapped by a husband wife who's the wife was you know obviously abused and and like yeah it was not the same brainwashed and everything well that's what's so interesting about this one is i don't think that that's the case at all and of course they try to make it seem that way later but that's not these two people were equally uh complicit yeah because that's not who she was really right but it's just the idea of you these assumptions that that we've all made culturally a man by himself is dangerous a man and a woman are fine.

[928] A baby seat clears the decks.

[929] Like all those things that are just like, no, no, no. Yeah.

[930] Yeah.

[931] Okay.

[932] Totally.

[933] So they force sleeping pills.

[934] They force her to take sleeping pills.

[935] And once she's asleep, David puts a cord around her neck and tells Catherine to prove her undying love for him by strangling her.

[936] Yeah.

[937] That's how you do it.

[938] Yeah.

[939] Yeah.

[940] Which she does.

[941] Wow.

[942] I know.

[943] They bury her near the grave of Mary Nielsen in the forest as well.

[944] On November 1st, 31 -year -old Nolene Patterson had run out of gas on her way home from her job as a bar manager at a golf club.

[945] She's standing by the side of the road when they drive up, the Bernie's drive up.

[946] She gets inside the car.

[947] And so here's a creepy fucking thing.

[948] They had a code for when a girl got in the car if they thought she was a good victim.

[949] Catherine was the one who decided if she was a good victim or not, if she was okay with, you know, because it was, if she was okay bringing this one home.

[950] Yeah.

[951] It was almost like, you can cheat on me if I choose the person.

[952] It's almost like she thought of it as cheating on her.

[953] I know.

[954] So she would say to David, I've got the munchies.

[955] And David would say, yeah, I've got the munchies too.

[956] That was their code word.

[957] Yeah.

[958] And so they held a knife to her throat and tied her up and told her not to move.

[959] She's taken back to Morehouse Street.

[960] David repeatedly rapes her.

[961] They had originally decided to murder her that same night, which was kind of what they did.

[962] But David kept her prisoner in the house for three days because there were signs that he had developed an emotional attachment to her.

[963] Because she was this really fucking smart, you know, 31 -year -old woman who was like going to play them against each other and make David fall for her.

[964] Yes.

[965] And that's how she was going to escape.

[966] That was her plan.

[967] But unfortunately, Catherine got super fucking jealous, held a knife to her throat and gave an ultimatum that David has to kill her or she's going to kill herself.

[968] That Catherine's going to kill herself?

[969] Catherine's going to kill herself if David didn't kill Nolene.

[970] Whoa.

[971] I bet that was an unpleasant scene to watch in that movie.

[972] It's insane.

[973] It's fucking insane.

[974] Oh, yeah.

[975] Okay.

[976] So he forces her to, Deline to take an overdose of sleeping pose.

[977] and strangles her while she's asleep.

[978] They take her body of the forest, but they bury it away from the other victims because he had some emotional attachment to her.

[979] Yeah, that's fucking weird.

[980] I know.

[981] All right.

[982] Then on November 5th, they abducted 21 -year -old Denise Brown as she's waiting for a bus on Sterling Highway.

[983] She accepts a ride, and at knife point, she's taken to the house, chained to the bed again and raped.

[984] they take her into the forest David assaults her again and they stab her in the neck they go to bury her in a shallow grave but she's not dead and Denise sits up in the grave what the fuck oh my God hold on saying I know I'm doing my nervous laughing I'm doing my nervous reading because like suddenly I'm realizing how I mean I'm not realizing But, you know, you're in this thing and you're like, this is like, this fucking, this is like living hell.

[985] But also when we were in Australia, this, I didn't know it from the Morehouse Murders, but so many people from Perth were like, my mom was so, it's David Bernie's boss.

[986] Or there was all these people that had, they would just mention the Bernies, like my sister went to the school that bloop.

[987] Remember that?

[988] It was constantly being referenced.

[989] Yeah.

[990] I didn't know what anyone was talking about.

[991] Yeah, I don't remember.

[992] That's crazy.

[993] But we just knew it was like there was a good murder And we just didn't know about it And I had read about it a little bit But I had so many details wrong And I remember picturing in my head Of what it looked like and what happened And it's so wrong from what really was going on Yes But that detail is If it were in a movie You'd be like, you're going crazy Like let's not be Let's not turn it into like full horror movie But that's exactly what this is And then yes what happened They killed her They grab an axe and cut her head off?

[994] No, and just hit her in the head with the axe to kill her.

[995] But they say that this is kind of where Catherine broke a little bit.

[996] The brutality of this part is, I mean, fucking stabbing someone like, that's not bad enough.

[997] But so this is just like, yeah, it would cut through the reality.

[998] It's just a next level insanity.

[999] Okay.

[1000] Okay.

[1001] So no more people dying.

[1002] Okay.

[1003] All right.

[1004] Agreed.

[1005] Okay.

[1006] Let's go.

[1007] Now we do our cooking podcast.

[1008] Just a clean transition into recipes.

[1009] Stir the congealed blood into the cellar.

[1010] Into the cellar.

[1011] Oh, meal.

[1012] Yeah, into the cellar.

[1013] Okay.

[1014] So let's get to fucking Kate Moyer.

[1015] She's a badass.

[1016] She's a 17 -year -old free spirit.

[1017] She drops out of high school.

[1018] She's a model.

[1019] She's this gorgeous.

[1020] There's all these videos.

[1021] Oh, there's this really great true crime show called Murder Uncovered in episode one.

[1022] is about her so there's all these videos she is the one from the beginning of the story that escaped okay all right good so she's this fucking cool shit badass woman um on november 10th nineteen eighty six she accepts a ride around the corner from her house after a night of drinking with friends but she's this nice couple picks her up and she's like yeah give me a ride the rest of the home yeah they get to her house she goes to open the door there's no door handle that thing but they take her to the house and they say oh you need to roll down the window or use the door handle whatever and she goes to do that one and there's no door handle like they were fucking toying with her and at that point he pulls out a fucking knife and holds it to her neck and they drive away and they tie her up um they take her to their house and they hang out with her in the living room and smoke a joint with her and talk to her and ask her all these questions they play music and they make her strip and dance to get ready to never hear the song again the same way and it's been in my fucking head since I found out what song it was.

[1023] Wait, can I guess?

[1024] It's 86.

[1025] Thank you.

[1026] Beds are burning by.

[1027] I'm trying to think of Australian bands.

[1028] Is it, you know, how do we sleep on the bed?

[1029] It's a good guess, but no. It's in that.

[1030] Men at work?

[1031] No. I don't know if they're Australian.

[1032] Okay.

[1033] They probably are.

[1034] Rock set?

[1035] No. What's that Roxette song?

[1036] That one?

[1037] No. Want me to sing it for you?

[1038] I don't think I should.

[1039] Do it.

[1040] I'm going to say it to you and you'll sing it.

[1041] Okay.

[1042] It's Romeo and Juliet by Dyer Straits.

[1043] Oh, no. Wait a second.

[1044] Sing a little.

[1045] Juliet.

[1046] Banish from the start.

[1047] No, that's not right.

[1048] Hold on.

[1049] Steven, hold on.

[1050] I'm going to play it.

[1051] Can I play it?

[1052] Yeah.

[1053] Oh, I don't think so.

[1054] I don't think we can either.

[1055] You don't know it?

[1056] Let me play it for you.

[1057] We're going to pause.

[1058] I just need a tiny bit more.

[1059] I don't know anymore and I'm embarrassed of my voice.

[1060] Okay, I'm going to play it for you.

[1061] We're going to pause.

[1062] So, yeah, that was a song.

[1063] And I've just been, I've had it stuck in my head the past couple weeks and it's been real troubling.

[1064] It's also so creepy because, like, those lyrics where it's like, hey, let's give it a try.

[1065] It's a love song.

[1066] It's very romantic, quote, unquote.

[1067] It's so creepy.

[1068] There's something about that.

[1069] It's just so eerie to me. These people were fucking nuts.

[1070] These people were fucking nuts.

[1071] Nut cases.

[1072] Nut cases.

[1073] All right.

[1074] So they like smoke weed with her and hang out with her.

[1075] And she says to them, are you guys going to kill me?

[1076] And they said, we'll just rape you if you're good.

[1077] If you're good, we'll just rape you.

[1078] Jesus.

[1079] Which, of course, it wasn't fucking true.

[1080] So David holds a knife to her throat and forces her to call her mom.

[1081] She says and assure her mom that she had too much to drink.

[1082] and was staying at a friend's house.

[1083] Can you imagine, like, on the phone with your mom being like, I've said this to you before, but things like that make me go, we have to set up a code word where if you hear me say this word in a conversation like that, something else is going on.

[1084] I actually made this plan with my friend Holly Gardner when we were 13 years old.

[1085] Oh, my God, what was it?

[1086] And it was like, I can't remember why something had happened where it was like either home invasion had been in the news or some kind of thing, and I was like, it was some stupid thing where like we have to make up a code if we ever say this.

[1087] It was some kind of like school books.

[1088] It was something about homework or books or something.

[1089] But it was like in the movie, the girl has to write a letter and there's a code in it that she puts in there.

[1090] Really?

[1091] Yeah, it's fucking cool.

[1092] So.

[1093] Was it a pre -agreed code or she just put it in hoping that they would find out?

[1094] She put it in hoping that they would find out.

[1095] I like the idea of a pre -agreed.

[1096] Okay.

[1097] What about stay sexy, don't get murdered?

[1098] If we ever say that to each other.

[1099] Steven's kidnapped us and made us make a podcast for, you'd be like 90 episodes.

[1100] I know that you're trying to get me to call my family as a cover for your murder of me. Right.

[1101] But real quick, do you mind if I talk about a podcast with my family member?

[1102] It's what we always do.

[1103] Okay.

[1104] If we ever say, I don't know.

[1105] Use the word suburbanites.

[1106] Okay.

[1107] If the word suburbanites comes out of any of our mouths, Stephen.

[1108] I would never say that word normally.

[1109] Okay.

[1110] We would never say that word.

[1111] It's suburbanites.

[1112] If Suburbanites comes into the picture, it's code red.

[1113] Okay.

[1114] Something bad's happening.

[1115] Hey, I'm at these Suburbanites' house and like that.

[1116] I'm trying, I'm practicing.

[1117] No, you need to figure out a way to fit that word in.

[1118] Hey, I got drunk.

[1119] I'm staying at my suburbanite friend's house.

[1120] It doesn't work.

[1121] It doesn't work.

[1122] That really stands out.

[1123] It doesn't work.

[1124] What if we say, if we ever say, chow instead of bye?

[1125] Shit, so you save it up until the very end.

[1126] Oh, shit, yeah.

[1127] No, but I mean, that's fine.

[1128] Or what about, Ola, if we say Ola, when we're, like, saying hello.

[1129] Ola, Karen, I'm just going to stay the night at my friend's house.

[1130] Ola.

[1131] Ketal.

[1132] Okay, done.

[1133] We'll figure this out.

[1134] Yeah.

[1135] Let's all just have a code word, though.

[1136] Okay.

[1137] Dyer Straits.

[1138] Blah, blah, blah.

[1139] That's right.

[1140] I'm going to a dire straits concert.

[1141] Right.

[1142] And I'm in dire straits.

[1143] And I am seriously in dire straits.

[1144] da da da da da up okay then she's forced to dance with them then she's forced to sleep in the couple's bed while handcuffed to David so they rape her Catherine joins in she starts screaming at one point and they come in and they say the sleeping arrangements have changed and they bring her into their bed together they handcuff her ankle to David's he tries to make her take sleeping pills she hides them in her mouth and then tucks them into the mattress while they're sleeping because she's like, I know that if I fall asleep here, I'm going to die.

[1145] Yeah.

[1146] She was on fucking point.

[1147] And she said, this is like her first interview ever.

[1148] And she seems so normal.

[1149] It's scary.

[1150] Like she seems amazing.

[1151] She says she knew she had like a 200 to one chance of surviving, but she was going to do whatever she could to make it happen.

[1152] Hell yes.

[1153] That's the mental place you need to be in.

[1154] She was there.

[1155] And you know what?

[1156] She started fucking.

[1157] doing.

[1158] She was like, no one's going to believe me that I was in this house.

[1159] She watched them take her clothes and bag them up so that they wouldn't leave anything behind when they got rid of the evidence.

[1160] She knew that's what they were doing in her mind.

[1161] So she said, I'm going to leave evidence here.

[1162] So someone knows I was here.

[1163] So she starts fucking hiding shit in the house.

[1164] She makes little drawings and hides them in the mattress.

[1165] She takes the pills and hides them there.

[1166] She puts a lipstick in this like weird spot just to prove that she was there and like her name and everything on a little piece of paper.

[1167] Brilliant.

[1168] Yeah.

[1169] I lost.

[1170] my thing but but hold on okay where was i hold on sorry insert page numbers i'm telling i did i did and now i don't remember what page i was on and i don't know where i put them all right so the day after she was kidnapped the next day david leaves her work and katherine goes to the door because someone comes to the door for a drug dealer for a drug deal and they think so Catherine forgets to chain Kate up she just pushes her in the room and says stay in this room and they think that maybe in her mind was so fucked up from the last murder that she just wasn't thinking straight or wasn't on her game yeah and Kate realizes this is a fucking chance to escape so she finds a window she breaks the lock on it pushes out the window jumps out of the window hits her head on the concrete on the way down and starts fucking booking it down the street knocking on doors no one's answering she jumps a fence and a fucking dog taxer in someone's yard gets the fuck out, keeps running sees her like a vacuum cleaner store with a man in a suit out front and runs to him and she says I was hysterical I'm barefoot wearing my black leggings a black singlet and knickers she says to him help I've been raped please take me inside and call the police and she's afraid that Catherine's going to come after her.

[1171] So she says, if a woman comes here and says, I had a fight with her and I'm her daughter, don't believe her.

[1172] I've been raped.

[1173] Shit.

[1174] And so she's brought to the police station and she's handed off to our friend Constable Laura Hancock, our 22 year old friend who's never taken a statement before and handed off to her because they don't believe her.

[1175] They told her to write her up for making a false report.

[1176] But Laura's hearing her story, hearing these crazy details including how shot like the shine and the numbers on the fucking chains that she was locked up in what color robe David was wearing what color robe she had to wear all these details and she keeps going up to her outside to her like her captain and being like I don't think she's lying she's telling me this and this and this and they're like she's lying go back in get more information finally Kate says the couple had been using pseudonyms the whole time but she had seen their names on the medicine bottle and the name was David Bernie oh she's Then they believed her because he had a crazy fucking record.

[1177] Yes.

[1178] So then they were like, oh, shit.

[1179] So she, um, police go to the house and, uh, in, they find the stuff Kate stashed, proving she was there.

[1180] And the movie they made her watch when they had been smoking pot.

[1181] It was in the VCR.

[1182] It was fucking Rambo and the dire straits cassette in the stereo.

[1183] So like everything is there.

[1184] Uh, and they find, her hidden trinkets as well.

[1185] So David and Catherine are arrested and interrogated and just of detectives were about to give up on him.

[1186] You know, it was going to be a he said, she said bullshit thing.

[1187] Detective Sergeant Vince Kadditch says, look, it's getting dark.

[1188] Just tell us where they're buried.

[1189] And David says, okay.

[1190] And he takes them to where the graves are.

[1191] So like as a Holy Mary, he says that.

[1192] Just tell.

[1193] It's getting dark.

[1194] Just tell us.

[1195] Oh, my God.

[1196] Brilliant.

[1197] Yeah.

[1198] later when Catherine's asked okay let's see all right so they are both sentenced to four terms of life imprisonment they're required to serve 20 years before being eligible for parole when asked why she had done it Catherine said because I wanted to see how strong I was within my inner self I didn't feel a thing it was like I expected I was prepared to follow him to the end of the earth and do anything to see that his desires were satisfied.

[1199] She was a female.

[1200] Females hurt and destroy males.

[1201] That's why she did it.

[1202] Killed.

[1203] Oh, like on behalf of males, she was killing females.

[1204] She didn't feel anything like all females were fucked up.

[1205] So after 19 years in prison, David Bernie is found dead in his cell.

[1206] On October 7, 2005, he hanged himself from an air vent using a length of cord.

[1207] Do you think?

[1208] I think he hanged himself?

[1209] Yeah.

[1210] I think he was really depressed and he hanged himself.

[1211] Huh.

[1212] And then he was 55 years old after her fourth bid for parole was declined in 2016.

[1213] Sorry, wait, Catherine's fourth bid for parole declined in 2016 just last year.

[1214] And our friend Badass Kate over here has a campaign to end Western Australian's laws that automatically put convicts up for parole every three years because she's not even asking for parole.

[1215] They just keep putting her up.

[1216] Right.

[1217] That's just it's like, it's like a computer's doing it, basically.

[1218] So there's speculation, of course, that the Bernie is responsible for a couple of their disappearances, including Sharon Renwick in May, 1986, and Barbara Western in June, 1986.

[1219] And based on what the evidence they talk about in the documentary, I absolutely think that they were responsible for those two disappearances.

[1220] And then there's also the disappearance of Lisa Mott in 1980, and it looks like that was David's doing for sure.

[1221] I mean, there's just no way.

[1222] It wasn't.

[1223] So that's the Morehouse murders.

[1224] Holy shit, dude.

[1225] I went dark.

[1226] That was crazy.

[1227] They're all horrible.

[1228] But, I mean, that was like, it's so funny.

[1229] It makes so much sense now why so many people brought up the burnees to us.

[1230] Because it was a normal suburb, and it was a normal suburb.

[1231] a normal couple that everyone thought was just, you know, and you look deep into it and there's so many fucked up points to it.

[1232] There's so many creepy details and, you know, you can't judge a book by its cover.

[1233] Yeah.

[1234] God.

[1235] It's so fucked up.

[1236] And you can't judge a book by the baby seat in the back seat.

[1237] Yeah.

[1238] Exactly.

[1239] It's just this thing of not understanding how, how, you can't understand how one person would do it to begin with.

[1240] Ted Bundy, I can't understand how.

[1241] I can't how anyone would do what he did.

[1242] And then you see these two people, and it's almost more manipulative and more sinister.

[1243] And it's...

[1244] Yeah, that's, well, it like doubles everything.

[1245] Because then it's just like, how did you get another individual to be as fucked up as you?

[1246] And to go into this with you.

[1247] And then what does that mean about your relationship?

[1248] And yeah, it's all that.

[1249] It's just so beyond beyond.

[1250] Yeah.

[1251] amazing yeah so weird not being at a live show isn't it what's that so weird not being at a live show isn't it where's our applause stephen clap for us how do we know when it ends even how dare you if there's not applause we don't know we're just penning a cat i don't know if this is over yeah now we're all bummed out uh no now we have to do one positive thing oh yeah that's right what's yours okay so mine is um i am so obsessed with it it's our new like everyone now needs to go watch it because that we're all in a fucking low place because of that story so now it's like the bobs burger thing yes now go turn on go to netflix and turn on big mouth it's it's nick crawl and john milaney's new cartoon coming of age but fucking dark and hilarious it is so fucking good i want to cry vincent i were watching it and we're just amazed the whole time oh that's great it's so good that's great yeah i definitely have that pause when people that I know and love and admire have something come out I have I do like a three month pause on it yeah and I just wait to hear what people say because I get nervous I'm afraid if people's thing is bad yeah then it if it is or here it might be that I just go I just pretend it never existed right and I don't have to like have an opinion one way or the other I completely understand I vetted it for you it is so sweet and so good and so wonderful I believe it because Nick Krull is truly one of the funniest people Nick Krill is so funny and then she's proved to me like he can't do anything fucking wrong.

[1252] No, he just knows what he's doing.

[1253] He is so good.

[1254] This show is darling.

[1255] It's a darling while also being like weirdly dark and funny.

[1256] It's just great.

[1257] That's great.

[1258] Yeah, watch it.

[1259] I watched a movie on the flight home from Florida, which was kind of a beast.

[1260] That was like a six hour flight.

[1261] Yeah.

[1262] That we took.

[1263] So I was like, when I do that, I'm always like, okay, that means three movies.

[1264] Yeah.

[1265] I can do three movies.

[1266] I do it at fucking every day.

[1267] I lay on the couch and watch nine movies.

[1268] And you don't have dogs bothering you the whole time, too.

[1269] A little peace and quiet.

[1270] Maybe some fun strangers that are going to get into an argument.

[1271] Snacks?

[1272] Who knows?

[1273] Yeah, snacks.

[1274] You know what my new thing these days is, and I don't know why?

[1275] This is how insane I am.

[1276] When they come around and offer snacks on flights, I'm always like, no, thank you.

[1277] I'll eat the worst shit in the world privately.

[1278] Oh, you just don't want them to know that you're...

[1279] I just try to pretend like I'm some kind of an island.

[1280] Like, drink?

[1281] No, thank you.

[1282] No, thank you.

[1283] I need nothing.

[1284] I do bought water.

[1285] Do you want some pretzels?

[1286] No. I'm not reliant on your snacks and beverages.

[1287] I do not need you.

[1288] I am self -sufficient in my movie.

[1289] So crazy.

[1290] But that's not my thing.

[1291] Okay.

[1292] I want it to be.

[1293] That's not my good point.

[1294] Is my independence from plain snacks?

[1295] That's it.

[1296] That makes me happy.

[1297] I will say this, not to do a commercial for JetBlue in any way.

[1298] We neither hear nor there about them, except that weird thing they had where they had a little.

[1299] They trust you to get your own snacks.

[1300] You can walk up to where the bathroom is, and across from the bathroom, there is a refrigerator with every drink in it, and then a like a weird cupboard with a ton of snacks in it.

[1301] It's like you're an adult and you can fucking police yourself and you're not going to jam a bunch of cheese it bags into your purse.

[1302] Because everyone can see you.

[1303] Right.

[1304] It's brilliantly placed.

[1305] So it's like when I went to get, I was like, oh, I want to see what they have.

[1306] But then I noticed that you would have to open the door to look and see.

[1307] see what the snacks were?

[1308] Well, I ate cookies.

[1309] Did you?

[1310] Were they good?

[1311] Yeah.

[1312] No, they're fine.

[1313] Is that what makes you happy?

[1314] I brought a ginger ale.

[1315] No. I brought it back to my seat, and then I watched this movie that my friend had told me was good.

[1316] My friend Molly told me was good already, but it's the Jeremy Runner, Elizabeth Merrick O 'Lson movie called Wind River, and it's about a murder that takes place on a Native American reservation.

[1317] oh and it is so well done and it is a female writer director and it should be getting way more press and way more attention yeah um i think it did really good at festivals and that's how like it like popped in the first place and why it's like on a jet blue yeah it's really interesting elizabeth olson is one of the greater actors of her generation did you ever see martha marcy may marlene that movie.

[1318] If you haven't seen that movie, you got it.

[1319] It's about a girl that just left a cult.

[1320] Oh, I'm missing out.

[1321] It's great.

[1322] That's from like probably four, five years ago maybe.

[1323] But this one, Wind River is this incredible, it's a murder mystery thing.

[1324] But then really it kind of unfolds into this thing.

[1325] And at the end, it does one of those like true facts go up onto the screen.

[1326] And Native American women go missing around reservations constantly.

[1327] and there are no reports about it.

[1328] Oh, my God.

[1329] Ever, anywhere, ever.

[1330] Yeah.

[1331] No one looks into it.

[1332] No one makes, no one investigates it.

[1333] And so whatever happens on this land, whoever's there and whatever they do, young women go missing or women go missing.

[1334] And they just don't, no one does anything about it.

[1335] Yeah.

[1336] And it was very upsetting.

[1337] Like the story itself is good and very emotional.

[1338] It's really well told and well written.

[1339] But then that factoid at the end, that's like, this is kind of why we make.

[1340] this movie is so upsetting it's a thing we kind of know we know in general yeah but to know that specifically about like indigenous people of america yeah yeah is insanely fucked up and i just i encourage everybody to kind of take it all in and and go look into it okay and because that woman is really really talented who put all that whole thing together and then watch big mouth so you stop crying exactly like take that in yeah get the full weight once again of underrepresented people.

[1341] The marginalized people.

[1342] And then Big Mouth, Big Mouth at the end of it.

[1343] I don't watch Big Mouth.

[1344] I just know that there's tons of like in that show.

[1345] There's tons of stuff about him like because it's basically him in puberty.

[1346] It's so good.

[1347] Puckin.

[1348] Maya Rudolph, her character, I can't, I can't give it away.

[1349] It's a hormone monster.

[1350] It's so fucking good.

[1351] I want to cry.

[1352] It's so good.

[1353] Oh, I can't.

[1354] wait to watch it.

[1355] Everything about it is beautiful.

[1356] Okay.

[1357] I love it.

[1358] Thanks for listening, you guys.

[1359] Guys, thanks for being here with us once again.

[1360] Once again, and we appreciate it, and you guys are the best.

[1361] Thank you for everything.

[1362] Thank you.

[1363] And just from us to you, stay sexy.

[1364] And don't get murdered.

[1365] Bye.

[1366] Elvis!

[1367] Elvis!

[1368] Wait.

[1369] Dottie?

[1370] Elvis show her how.

[1371] Elvis, want cookie?

[1372] Elvis, one cookie?

[1373] Daddy?

[1374] What cookie?

[1375] Wow.