#2186 - Ari Matti

[0] Joe Rogan podcast, checking out.

[1] The Joe Rogan Experience.

[2] Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

[3] Okay, we're up now.

[4] So what were you guys talking shop about?

[5] Explain.

[6] What was the question you asked, Jamie?

[7] Well, yeah, Jamie's going to fucking run a train on me. I felt that there was some controversy.

[8] There was some tension.

[9] There was a little tension in Europe.

[10] When we had a lovely dinner after your show, we went at it a little bit.

[11] And we had a little disagreement about compression technologies, pre -empts, cloud lifters, you know.

[12] What is your position?

[13] Well, my position is, well, okay.

[14] Hold on.

[15] He's coming from a different place, though, also.

[16] Okay.

[17] Yeah, very different.

[18] Let's just say, financially, we're coming from a very different place.

[19] But I tried to use the Shure SM7B.

[20] We actually got, for my podcast, shout out, here we are.

[21] It's Estonian.

[22] You're not going to, well, AI maybe.

[23] What did you just shout out?

[24] Doisi Zoyat.

[25] It means direct translation is pussy munchers.

[26] It's my podcast.

[27] Oh.

[28] Yeah.

[29] So is it in Estonian?

[30] Wow.

[31] Do you think Spotify will translate it to English?

[32] Maybe you'll be the first that goes the opposite way.

[33] Bro, if AI translate this podcast, I'm fucked, you know?

[34] Oh.

[35] Yeah, yeah.

[36] Oh, take it down.

[37] See, this is the thing.

[38] They're going to do that.

[39] I know.

[40] Spotify's going to do that with...

[41] But they don't get my charisma and timing down, though.

[42] No. Also, sense of humor, sarcasm.

[43] And when you translate, you sound like a Nazi.

[44] I will be a Nazi.

[45] That's the problem with satire and humor.

[46] And what is, for lack of a better term, it's called talking shit, okay?

[47] And this is what we do on podcast.

[48] This is what we do in the green room.

[49] This is what me and my friends love to do all the time, right?

[50] We do that all the time.

[51] We say things we don't mean because it's funny.

[52] we say things are inappropriate because it's funny and it is 100 % done with fun and the problem is today people like to take things and pretend you're saying something when that's not what you're saying yeah there's a funny comedian in Canada he's an American dude who moved to Vancouver he's Dean Archie he used to say off the record talk right it's shit talk we're not saying things that we mean we're saying things that are fun to say but what I was going to get to before we did is that the thing that Jamie told me about MS said well Tulsi Gabbard was the first person to tell me about it so I was talking about how great Tulsi Gabbard is about if you know you really wanted a great Democratic candidate that was a woman woman of color congresswoman for eight years served overseas in a medical unit twice that's where she got that gray streak in her hair she's like an exemplary human being she likes my kill Tony bits on Instagram so and they tried to say that I was talking about Kamala Harris.

[53] So they edited out of context.

[54] Dude, I've seen your edited videos with ads because...

[55] Yeah, there's a lot of AI ads that aren't really me. Because Estonia is in Eastern Europe and a Russian bot system in that country.

[56] It's crazy, right?

[57] Bro.

[58] It's crazy.

[59] I've seen fake podcasts where there's a guy on your podcast which never has happened.

[60] Right.

[61] And the guy has a sure SM7B.

[62] Not this mic stand, let's be honest.

[63] It's some shittier version.

[64] And the backdrop is similar, but you can tell it's not that podcast.

[65] Right.

[66] But you can do amazing things now with AI.

[67] You know, you could do it with video editing for sure.

[68] Like you could just have a guy splice in, him being in this chair, me being in that chair.

[69] And if you did it right and you spent your time on it, you could make it very convincing.

[70] And that's just the beginning, man. There's a podcast with me and Steve Jobs.

[71] I never met Steve Jobs.

[72] There's like, I think it's 40 minutes long.

[73] How long is the podcast with me and Steve Jobs?

[74] but it's a completely AI -generated podcast.

[75] It's just audio.

[76] But from what I've heard, it's, you can kind of tell, but it's getting close.

[77] It's getting to the point where you're not going to be able to tell.

[78] You know, when you hear enough computer -generated sentences, you're going to catch little glitches in the Matrix.

[79] You know, it's going to sound a little off.

[80] But you can only catch those glitches in the Matrix because you're a person who's also around technology, Internet, so you kind of kind of see the scam going on it's not a super visible scam it's like a oh i see it scam yeah so how long is it 20 minutes okay so it's just me let me hear some of it personality they seem to have a soul in a way and some people almost get religious about this stuff because it's so powerful and it means so much is that good if a company gets to the point where it's successfully doing a few things you don't have to try and do everything we're in the now of trying to cut the things we're doing so that we can concentrate on the few that are really high on our priority list because if you try to do too many things none of them get done well well that transition on a few and make sure the transition's quirky but even more importantly the sound is very different between where the environment that I'm talking in the environment he's talked for sure so either he's not in the room which I don't do I don't do Zoom calls they'll suck yeah or you know that's fake yeah it's only only two options an audio engineer just tweaked it for a two minutes, they could make it sound so much better.

[81] Oh, yeah, yeah, you could 100 % make it sound like, yeah, you could 100 % make it sound like we're in the same room, but they didn't.

[82] But this is also like how many months old?

[83] Yeah, that was two years ago.

[84] Oh, crazy.

[85] So what they have now is way better.

[86] It's way better.

[87] It's getting to the point where we're not going to know.

[88] For sure.

[89] We're not going to know what things are, what things are real.

[90] What you can generate, I'm sure you've seen these, the new Unreal.

[91] engine the most complicated video game engine what is it called engine five is that what it's called it's like this is spooky yeah it's so good it's spooky it looks like a damn movie like a real movie like in estonia the movie industry is moving really well and the government was financing for a while the building of like like a movie fucking i don't know factory or like a whole you know like a production studio which could bring more revenue to the country great idea but some it's been paused now and people are all like why isn't it making but I know exactly why it's paused because they're waiting to see how this AI thing plays out because let's be honest green screens and shit that might be like fax machines bro yeah it might be like Morse code yeah exactly and it happens like this well you saw that Tyler Perry shut down the plans to build this enormous studio.

[92] He's going to build an 800 million dollar production studio and he saw Sawyer.

[93] He's the guy who does all those Maeda movies.

[94] He's got a bunch of TV series.

[95] I thought he's that extreme makeover guy.

[96] Move that, bus.

[97] Remember that guy?

[98] That was my shit.

[99] No, he's he plays a lady in a bunch of famous movies.

[100] Yeah, yeah, he's that.

[101] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[102] So anyway, point Meida?

[103] Medea, that's right, sorry.

[104] The point is obviously super successful dude.

[105] and has this enormous, this is the Unreal 5 engine.

[106] He has this enormous production company that he's about to build.

[107] And he goes, he sees Sora, and he's like, what?

[108] You guys can do this now?

[109] You've got to see how that plays out.

[110] Dude, it's going to play out real strange.

[111] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[112] Because what you see already is, so this is the video game.

[113] This is hard.

[114] This looks pretty good.

[115] This is not as convincing as some of the other footage that I saw, the nighttime footage.

[116] or something about daytime footage that looks a little clunky or a little better.

[117] Well, there's more reflections.

[118] Yeah.

[119] I went to Red Band's place and tried the AI for the first time in my life.

[120] Oh, nuts.

[121] He was saying like he has a second life and they are happy with his girlfriend there and they're like living in a whole other world there.

[122] Well, Red Band's slightly insane.

[123] I know, but the way he was describing to me, I imagine it's like the Neo where I put the thing in and I'm happy now.

[124] But it was, dog, it was literally PlayStation 2 graphics.

[125] Whenever I want to nerd out about electronics, it's always redband.

[126] We always talk.

[127] We always talk about the newest phones or the newest this or this does that, that does this.

[128] Like, he's just a techno nerd.

[129] Yeah.

[130] He loves that shit.

[131] And he's already giving up on this life because he knows VR is here.

[132] That's such a red band move.

[133] Every time I tell him to eat something healthy.

[134] You know what?

[135] AI is taken over.

[136] I'm just going to get my brain teleported.

[137] Exactly.

[138] That's the ultimate leap, right?

[139] Imagine if they get to a point where they say, we can download your brain into a computer, but you will cease to exist right here right now, and you just have to assume that it's whatever consciousness is in your head is your life.

[140] And it's not just a faction of that consciousness being in a very particular state and time, that consciousness is being attached to this particular biological body in this particular place.

[141] Like, what makes you you?

[142] And if you take that shit out and stick it in a moment, machine, what kind of horrific existence is that?

[143] What's screaming into the abyss, unattached from a body, but trapped, trapped in a newly created computer dimension because you didn't get to go to heaven because you got trapped in a metal box.

[144] And maybe that's how the aliens contain souls.

[145] Maybe that's how they get them.

[146] Matrix was basically that whole.

[147] That's the thing.

[148] Get you to think that you can download your soul into a computer like, why?

[149] I'm going to live for.

[150] forever, going to download my soul into a computer.

[151] And what all you're doing is, you're so smart that you're stupid enough to think that technology is capable of recreating you as a whole, not just your consciousness, but what if your fingernails have memories, motherfucker?

[152] What if your whole, what if it all is a part of a system and disconnected from that system, your soul is just like, ah, just separated from.

[153] love forever.

[154] That was what I really liked in the Matrix franchise.

[155] Remember when they got out of the Matrix?

[156] They went to Zion.

[157] There was that scene where they were fucking and then there was that scene where they were dancing and the whole thing who's the fucking Morpheus was explaining that yeah, you're not feeling the things with your physical body in this Matrix world, you know?

[158] You're going through it's just the synapses are firing in the machine and I remember because I was like a teenager when I saw that movie and I remember that scene when they were fucking and I was like oh shit see that's the thing if you download your brain into a system and then they came back the world was shitty remember how shitty yeah Zion looked like race got terrible no beats like us in 50 years and then they were eating remember that food everything the body needs remember that culp yeah but I remember when they did that dancing scene I remember that like like inspiring a thought where I'm like how maybe even if there is a secondary fucking AI world that comes yeah yeah yeah they'll be rebellion see that's what I'm saying no no question whatsoever that's why I love when people go is AI gonna destroy stand -up comedy I always love to say that stand -up luckily is the art form that can comment on its own demise kind of you know like even if AI creates the perfect act the perfect ha ha ha laughs per minute there's gonna be you're gonna be able to comment on how fuck that is right yeah so 100 % And then on top of that, what we're really doing is we're performing for live audiences.

[159] So how's AI going to do that?

[160] Yeah, absolutely.

[161] There's a thing that happens when you see a singer on stage.

[162] Someone's got an incredible voice and you see him sing and that voice just echoes.

[163] Or someone like Gary Clark Jr. is playing guitar where you're in the room while they're hitting those keys.

[164] You're like, God damn.

[165] And then there's the story.

[166] It's not even only the technique and the incredible voice.

[167] It's also the history of his experience.

[168] I remember when I was like 19, I worked at a jazz bar.

[169] Didn't know shit about jazz.

[170] I don't know shit about music.

[171] I don't know how to play.

[172] Do you know how to play anything?

[173] No, I don't know how to play anything.

[174] Literally, I don't know how to draw or play.

[175] And like my hands just don't work like that.

[176] I tried guitar.

[177] It just doesn't happen.

[178] Dudes are just, and they're like, feel that.

[179] Nothing, this connection, nothing's happening.

[180] Interesting.

[181] But I remember working at that bar.

[182] there was a famous Estonian guy who was performing like an unplugged he was like a rock star and he was performing an unplugged version on the weekends you know and technically he sounded amazing he was an amazing guitar player but he was a young guy maybe only five years older than me technically perfect from the traditional training the school he had all the things and for me that sounds amazing right but then I remember we started having because it was turning we had blues nights on Tuesdays and the owner would fly out from America like New Orleans these 65 year old black dudes that live a rough life you can see from their face from the way they move it's been a rough life and the way they would sing maybe technically it wouldn't be sound as clean but what you would feel because I was bartending and I would look at the audiences and I would see them also you feel I feel it.

[183] Right.

[184] You can't explain.

[185] Dude, I don't know.

[186] Of course.

[187] Later, when I got to be friends some musicians there, they would explain.

[188] They would be like, no, no, no. That guy, the other guy was doing the basic A, B, C, D, D, D. He's doing a whole different shit right now.

[189] Right.

[190] So it's something that only the people that really know how to play recognize.

[191] Like stand up.

[192] Right.

[193] But I feel it.

[194] I think that's the case with everything, man. I really do.

[195] I think that's the case with everything.

[196] Everything.

[197] Especially art. I think everything.

[198] It's a true form of expression.

[199] You know, even like chess, I think games people play.

[200] I think it exists in everything, you know.

[201] Because I remember, I even remember when there was, remember peer to peer before Torrance?

[202] It was peer to peer.

[203] Sure.

[204] What did you guys have?

[205] Kaza, AIMESH.

[206] What did we have?

[207] What was that one?

[208] We had them all.

[209] Kazah, Aimesh, LimeWire.

[210] What was the one that everybody used?

[211] We started off a Napster and then we went into Kazah.

[212] Metallic, Koo, Napier, and Morpheus.

[213] Yeah, I remember the Napster days.

[214] Metallica Sue with Napster, you know?

[215] Oh, yeah, yeah, Lars Alwork was very upset.

[216] Yeah.

[217] And so was, I had Paul Stanley from Kiss on the podcast.

[218] He was just flat out saying those people were stealing.

[219] They're stealing money.

[220] You know, my position, it was very, I was like, okay, a bomb just went off.

[221] And you could either recognize you have a hole in the ship, or you can go full steam ahead with the original plan, and this motherfucker's going to sink.

[222] It's like that cartoon when Tom and.

[223] Jerry, when he's trying to dissip a shinking.

[224] The moment music becomes a digital piece of information that can be uploaded to a hard drive.

[225] The moment that happens, it's over.

[226] So if you don't realize that the war has been lost and devise some sort of monetization of streaming platform, make it simpler, quicker, faster than anybody else's, and then get it up there quick, because they should have done that the moment Napster came out.

[227] They should have hired, like, the best coders.

[228] And so, okay, there is no way you're stopping this.

[229] Like, the dam broke, water's coming through, and record sales are gone.

[230] Build boats.

[231] Record sales just went away.

[232] So quickly.

[233] Guys were making millions and millions of dollars from record sales.

[234] And then they'd go on tour.

[235] But even live touring was on a downslope because you didn't need to do that that much.

[236] Record sales was the bag.

[237] Right.

[238] That's why Madonna went back on tour.

[239] I mean, I don't know this, but that's why...

[240] She probably also wanted to say what's up.

[241] For sure.

[242] That bitch is now.

[243] For sure.

[244] She's still around.

[245] For sure.

[246] But there's a lot of bands that went back on tour for that very reason.

[247] Uh -huh.

[248] Yeah, for sure, definitely.

[249] Yeah, their revenue dried up.

[250] Which is crazy that one of the biggest entertainment businesses in the world lost all of its sales revenue from recordings.

[251] I mean, I don't know.

[252] It didn't lose all of it.

[253] I'm sure some people still buy some of them.

[254] But, like, the drop -off must have been crazy.

[255] Because it was, remember, it was all like, you guys had, not cassettes.

[256] What did you guys have, A -track?

[257] We had A -track first, and then we had cassettes, and then we had compact discs.

[258] Yeah, we only got cassettes, then it was CDs.

[259] So the format was always changing.

[260] And then it was the Blu -ray and the Microsoft, whatever format they had, battle.

[261] So there's always that battle of data.

[262] then for a while like USBs were tried you know they would sell small USBs but then just the internet was like physical yeah isn't that crazy and not only that it's way better like the imagine if YouTube was just a bunch of discs that you had to get dude how stupid that would be but then again that's a good example of how much things have changed is the fact that YouTube exists and that YouTube is not a stack of discs that you have to go to a library or a bookstore to get.

[263] Yeah.

[264] YouTube just exist instantaneously.

[265] But then again, there was that magic of fly.

[266] I feel lucky, at least, to have that childhood where I remember that my attention was actually not raped by technology that much, but I had to actually look forward to consuming something and work physical exertion to get it.

[267] Go to the DVD thing.

[268] You would read the back.

[269] You would look at the...

[270] It would put...

[271] There's a more, maybe, commitment to consumption.

[272] I think it's going to be very interesting when we look back on human beings.

[273] And I think we're in the middle of it right now, so we probably don't really objectively understand how much of an impact it's had on us.

[274] Because it's sort of trickled in slowly with just regular cell phones.

[275] And then, like, remember those sidekicks?

[276] People had the sidekicks that you could send texts on.

[277] It would go sideways.

[278] Remember?

[279] And we're like, wow, that's crazy.

[280] That was like next level.

[281] And then Blackberries, if you were fucking serious, if you're really getting some shit done, answering some emails, you had a Blackberry.

[282] And then when the iPhone came out, the whole game just fucking flipped on its head.

[283] And now all of a sudden, everyone's connected to everyone everywhere and everyone's anxious and freaking out.

[284] And I think that we grew up before that.

[285] And I'm older than you by far, so I grew up way before.

[286] How old are you now?

[287] 32.

[288] Yeah, so I'm 507.

[289] I'm almost 57 a few days.

[290] And you're also like, yeah, those very important years.

[291] That's the big transition years Because it was a series of factors That happened in my lifetime Number one answering machines Like what the fuck You could call someone and leave a message And you would come home And your answer machine light would be like a little dog Like if the red light was going on like Oh, someone loves me Someone loves me And you go listen to your messages And then it got to a point Where you could call your own phone And get your answering machine To play you your messages That was next level shit Okay Crazy technology, we couldn't believe it.

[292] You got to see caller ID, who's calling you?

[293] And then you get to call them back, Star 6 -9, what's up?

[294] And then, VHS tapes come along.

[295] Maybe not even and then.

[296] It was kind of along the same soup, because it all happened while I was in high school.

[297] So while I was in high school, there was probably answer machines before I was in high school, but I was aware of them in high school, then caller ID, and then VHS tapes.

[298] All that happened.

[299] So now all of a sudden, you could just get stuff and play it anytime you want to.

[300] too.

[301] So it changed, like, watching movies.

[302] You get positive if you had to take a leak.

[303] The whole thing changed.

[304] People started watching movies at home.

[305] Blockbuster became a giant thing.

[306] Nobody would have imagined blockbuster is going to go by -bye.

[307] Nobody.

[308] It was the thing.

[309] You go to Blockbuster on Friday night.

[310] You see what's the fucking latest movies.

[311] Oh, great.

[312] There's one left.

[313] Yeah, we had like a video planet.

[314] It was like the top five most making money fucking companies of in the country.

[315] Imagine.

[316] They just, they were on an ice cube.

[317] They were on an ice cube That's what I'm always wondering is what is the industry right now that doesn't even know.

[318] I think there's a lot of them.

[319] Oh, a lot of them.

[320] I think there's, I don't think it's a, I think AI is going to fuck up this system that we have going for us.

[321] I think that's why, that's part of the reason why there's a lot of scrambling and clamoring for power right now.

[322] Because I think people have a real understanding at the highest level that it's only, we only have so much more time.

[323] before this AI thing becomes one of the most enormous aspects of society and the power consumption that's gonna need is astronomical it's crazy they're literally building nuclear power plants for these fucking things and they're going full throttle and we're headed towards whatever this is and no one knows and I think that's one of the reasons why governments are trying to crack down on social media and trying to control it and stop people from saying things.

[324] And in the UK, they're arresting people for saying certain things.

[325] They're trying to, like, stop this thing from overwhelming them.

[326] And you can't.

[327] It's going to overwhelm all of us.

[328] It's not just going to overwhelm government.

[329] It's going to overwhelm civilization.

[330] And it's going to happen in a bunch of stages, just like it happened with us.

[331] Well, we got caller ID, we got answering machines, we got VHS tapes, and then we got computers, then we got online and then we got 144 then we got 56k and then you start seeing pictures show up like they download them nice and slow and then people got cable oh my god you get cable internet so people had cable internet where you could just like remember how many pixels born used to have like how may how low that was glorious fuck i remember i had a point when i was like like mom goes to store and you know how you ask which store so you know how much time you got in the bank and i remember like jacking off and just halfway through a video it's two dudes I just didn't the pixels it was just such shitty quality that's uncomfortable it was just very well didn't you know when they were both sucking each other's dicks yeah when there was a kid where is the girl yeah when is she coming in but it was like in a sauna in the dark and I saw the dudes like a hog hanging but he had a nice butt and it all looked did you ever flashed in the sauna by a dude we only go naked, you know that, right?

[332] Oh, in your country?

[333] Of course, and if you have pants on, that's creepy and that's weird.

[334] If you come with pants, we would have an issue.

[335] Really?

[336] Because it's weird.

[337] What are you hiding?

[338] What's the thing?

[339] Do you have a owner?

[340] Exactly.

[341] What's going on?

[342] Dude, just staring at my dick.

[343] I'd rather just go my underwear.

[344] We all stare at us dicks.

[345] I've seen...

[346] Good luck with that.

[347] Like, in the green room.

[348] In the green room, comedians were talking about how many dicks they've seen in their lifetime.

[349] And I remember they were saying, like, numbers.

[350] Bro, I've seen thousand thousand, I've seen 16 to 22 ,000 dicks.

[351] Do you think that's healthy?

[352] Yeah.

[353] Yeah, it's normal, you know?

[354] Normal shit.

[355] Normal shit.

[356] Just looking at dicks.

[357] And then sometimes I remember in high school we all shower.

[358] There was always one weird kid that would not shower with us and you make fun of them, show me. You know, what's going on?

[359] Why didn't you show us your dick, you know?

[360] That's funny.

[361] And then sometimes the shower would be a bit warm and it would get a little bit of a vein going there.

[362] You know, you get a little bit of a 25 %, dude.

[363] No, boy.

[364] And then you're lathering it down.

[365] Yeah.

[366] Oh, yeah, I'm trying to just fucking mentally just make it go away.

[367] Yeah, naked dudes in saunas is an odd thing.

[368] I only feel comfortable when it's naked.

[369] There was a, I used to be a member of 24 -hour fitness in Woodland Hills, California, and the guy who was the manager there was a cool guy.

[370] I used to talk to him all the time, my friend Eddie, and I used to live there, and he was the former manager of the West Hollywood one.

[371] So he goes, bro, the West Hollywood.

[372] with 24 -hour fitness he goes it was basically like a gay hookup spot that's all it was like these guys would just go ham just get after each other oh yeah and like you'd have to say hey don't do that but it's like you've got guys who want to fuck guys hanging out all working out together and getting sweaty yeah with like guy mentality yeah like come on let's do it here like yeah and they're doing it there and there's all guys that are gay there so they're like what are you going to do?

[373] And he was like, dude, it was crazy.

[374] He goes, I used to have to stop people from fucking in the sauna.

[375] The smell in the showers.

[376] I'm sure they don't do that anymore, folks.

[377] Yeah.

[378] I'm sure that's all been cleaned up.

[379] But back then, he was telling me it was bananas.

[380] I can imagine that 24 fitness still existing.

[381] And then this podcast is coming out, and there's just 800 gay dudes waiting.

[382] They're like, Joe Rogan, can you stop saying this is the suck and fuck spot?

[383] Make sure there is a, make sure it's the right gym.

[384] I don't want to, I don't want to slander anyone.

[385] But, um, there is a 24 -hour fitness, right?

[386] Because I know there's another one.

[387] There's another gym like that.

[388] And I used to actually work out at a gym that was in a gay neighborhood.

[389] I used to have a bit about it.

[390] I used to wear out at Gold's Gym on Cole.

[391] And it was in full -on West Hollywood, like, super gay gym.

[392] But it was really close to the studio where we film News Radio.

[393] So I just got a membership there.

[394] So I'd get off work and I'd go lift.

[395] And I'd just go live with these, like, hungry gay dudes these dudes were hungry man they like look at you and they're friendly nobody fucked with me nobody like no unwanted attention or anything like that but I didn't take a lot of showers there I remember there was an old guy at the gym it was right in the middle of Santa Monica Boulevard it's closed now oh good okay good good good it's closed okay so golds is the golds on coal is the one I'm talking about yeah that's the one that's not West Hollywood it's like East Hollywood yeah whatever it was it was gay yes but like men you know like big hairy muscular gay dudes looking for more of that so it's like yikes fucking men yeah it's like a wounded gazelle yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah just want to get to the river i remember there was an older guy in my gym and uh that was the first time i also experienced where it's like It's an old guy, you know.

[396] Right.

[397] I'm not threatened.

[398] I'm not threatened.

[399] But the look he had in his eyes just made me feel vulnerable for, you know, it's weird.

[400] Because he wanted to penetrate you.

[401] Because men have a certain.

[402] And I remember then I started thinking.

[403] And that was when I was younger.

[404] And that was the first time I started thinking on, oh, shit, that's how women feel plus the physical.

[405] Oh, yeah.

[406] Like, that's like Brock Lesnar looking at you like, you know.

[407] That's like a, you know.

[408] Dude, I have had gay guys hit on me that I could kill, and it made me uncomfortable.

[409] That guy.

[410] Like, it just gets to this like, hey, you know I'm not gay, so what are you doing?

[411] Exactly.

[412] You're just trying to make me uncomfortable.

[413] Exactly.

[414] And you get nervous.

[415] And this old guy would give me looks, and I would just feel, and it was the first time in my life.

[416] I'm just like, dude, I'm jacked.

[417] I'm doing fucking M .MA, but I'm feeling vulnerable.

[418] And then one point in the shower, this was like, You know when showers have the booths, you know, the separation booths, and it was me and him.

[419] So I go in the son, the gym is empty.

[420] I go in the sauna, I'm alone, and dix up, it's Dignation, you know, it's Estonia.

[421] So I'm in the sauna.

[422] I hear the shower door open, and in my head, I know, you know, in your head, you're like, there's other people at this gym, but let me bet, because I saw him looking at me, I go, let me bet.

[423] And you know it.

[424] He comes in, he sees one towel up, you know, so there's somebody in the sauna.

[425] Right.

[426] He comes to the sauna.

[427] I wait for him to go to the showers first, because I know if I go, the next booth over, this guy's joining.

[428] So he goes into the corner.

[429] I picked the opposite corner.

[430] And then at one point, I'm showering, and I just, it's that human thing.

[431] It's that human thing where you feel something is watching or something is a tension.

[432] And I look through the fucking all the separation boots They had a small gap That you can see through all of them And he's got shampoo And in the other end I just see his one eye like this And his dick in his hand He's not jacking off He's just holding on to it But something's going on He's getting ready He's warming up He's showing you that he's got a dick But then and he had this look Serious Yeah angry and I'm leaving the gym and I'm passing and I know the administrator girls working at the gym I passed them and in my head I'm thinking I just got like sexually assaulted actually no that's not assault don't be a baby yeah exactly see no he he made you feel creepy maybe feel creepy yeah so I feel I can't keep this in I turn around I go to the administrator I go hey and we're laughing about it I go this fucking old guy and then we wait and he takes like 40 to 50 minutes to come out of that sharp see what I think is he's shameful because oh yeah and he comes out his face is red he has a hoodie on and he's just ran out of the gym never came back I think it just that's that post nut yeah you know well he probably is embarrassed that he did it exactly again you know it's probably one of those things he's probably been kicked out of gyms before like he's like got an exit strategy yeah that's what he does he's a shower jerker yeah those exist that's why i don't like walking around naked okay like if you were a woman and uh you have your beautiful vagina uh and their co -edged showers would you be really be comfortable washing your butthole and your vagina in front of a bunch of men no of course not we we are gay guys are real and uh if your little booty hole and your little dick is out flopping around in front of them um to me as a person who doesn't want any of that I would imagine that I would not enjoy watching someone stare at my Johnson who wants to take a piece and suck on it.

[433] No, you know what I'm saying?

[434] Like, okay, we don't need to think about that.

[435] But I think we have just culturally.

[436] Men think that way.

[437] That's why you can't have men in a room with naked girls.

[438] We did that.

[439] In our culture, when I was a little kid, I saw grown pussy all the time in songs.

[440] This is why your country's so fucked up.

[441] You guys, you barely survive Viking wars, and then what's left over, you're just a bunch of fucking maniacal crazy people showing each other's pussies and dicks to each other.

[442] I feel like some things should be sacred.

[443] That's what I'm saying.

[444] Like, I have no problem with being around gay guys, but I don't think I should be showing them my cock.

[445] I don't think that's the right move.

[446] I also don't think ladies, as comfortable as you are naked, should be in a room full of men and just show your bare pull.

[447] That seems problematic.

[448] It seems like it's going to cause issues for you.

[449] Like, I wouldn't do that if I was you.

[450] You know, if you want to wear a bikini, great, everything's covered.

[451] Which is like, how funny is that?

[452] The bikini thing is hilarious, you know, that there's this little tiny little piece of cloth.

[453] Little tiny little piece.

[454] You're on Instagram, they have that little.

[455] Little Dorito.

[456] And you see, all I don't see is the actual episode.

[457] By the way, I like it.

[458] I'm not saying you shouldn't do it.

[459] Please don't stop wearing them.

[460] I think they're great.

[461] I like G -strings.

[462] I like girls with beautiful bodies expressing themselves, wearing whatever they want to wear.

[463] I'm just saying it's so different than shorts.

[464] Like if a dude wears Speedos, he's a freak, right?

[465] A dude in Speedos, unless you're in your fucking country.

[466] Exactly.

[467] But a dude in America and Speedos is a weirdo.

[468] Some dude in Speedos, that guy's a weirdo.

[469] If you don't have gobbles on, if you didn't come from a lot, long ass swim you fucking weirdo why you wearing speedos everybody wears shorts but ladies that's per christ that's estonia every every step that every every man i've ever seen growing up i've seen their dick that's inflammation in its human form that is true that is an inflamed body that's an inflamed body that's i wouldn't recommend that um but that that's what makes the g string funnier right the speedos that's what makes all of it funnier but it's just it's funny the different between like, okay, women's formal attire, right?

[470] So, not even formal, but like, say, a woman who's a presenter on television, right?

[471] Skirt, no problem.

[472] Bare toes, open -toed shoes, no problem at all.

[473] Have one of them ones that dangles off your foot a little bit, not all the way on?

[474] No one cares.

[475] Vagina curtain that covers about 12 inches from your waist down, that's fine.

[476] boobs all out pressed out together and pushed up and forward I love how that's formal no sleeves no sleeves bare eyes as much skin as you could possibly get without being naked and to be dressed on television and that's formal lipstick yeah they're always hot painted nails painted toenails everything's smooth and polished and shaved.

[477] That's fine.

[478] That's the news.

[479] This is totally fine.

[480] And that's formal, you know.

[481] Imagine if men in gym shorts and tank tops were giving the news, how fucking stupid it would look.

[482] Imagine if, like, all these people that you see on the news, imagine Don Lemon in his boxer shorts with tank top on, given the news.

[483] Yeah.

[484] Well, that's kind of what, like, a dress is.

[485] For sure.

[486] A dress with a skirt for those Fox News ladies.

[487] How is that different than me and like these shorts that I'm wearing right now in a tank top?

[488] How's it different?

[489] It's just less threatening maybe.

[490] And it's nice.

[491] It's nice.

[492] I don't want to discourage it.

[493] I just think how crazy is the difference between what men wear versus what women wear?

[494] We have a jacket on like it's cold out.

[495] We have a fucking vest and a tie and a shirt and all this shit and women can essentially be.

[496] almost naked.

[497] And you only assume they have underwear on.

[498] That might be a thrill if you don't have underwear on the news.

[499] Well, if she had underwear on, maybe you'd be able to see it through the garments on the outside.

[500] That would be terrible.

[501] That would ruin the look.

[502] Ruin the look.

[503] No one's going to look at my pussy.

[504] Have you ever had a girl like that?

[505] Did you go to a nightclub and they're not wearing underwear?

[506] I have not.

[507] I would imagine that's a wild lady.

[508] It's hot.

[509] That's yes I was one time Dancing with a girl And she told you No she grabbed my hand We were holding And she was you know Walking through the dance floor You know how chicks Just fucking push people Out of the way And then we get to the dance floor And she just pulls my arm And it's like oh Where is this And it's soaking Damn She's a wild one Wild one Viking babies That's what that is That's what is The survivors And she was Strong out there Survivors She was strong out there Of the massacres And she has She was living in Australia.

[510] She had one of those jeeps that has one of those fucking things up front that kills the kangaroos, you know?

[511] Whoa.

[512] We saw one of those in San Antonio right in front of the truck or the production trucks.

[513] You see that fucking crazy thing that guy had?

[514] Super tall.

[515] Over the top?

[516] Oh, because they're big.

[517] Because they're big.

[518] And it looks mad, Max.

[519] It looks like I'm up front.

[520] It looks crazy.

[521] And she had that Jeep.

[522] She had like horns.

[523] And then the balls hanging from the back, you know, the soft balls that they put in the back.

[524] They had that, and she was just a fucking wild one.

[525] Wow.

[526] They had a kangaroo shield in the front of her vehicle.

[527] Yeah, yeah.

[528] And this was like when I visited Australia, and in my head I was like, kangaroos are like cutie -patooties, but when you go to Australia, they'll tell them, like, we hate them, because they just keep jumping in front of cars.

[529] Well, they're everywhere now, too.

[530] They're fucking everywhere.

[531] They have a lot of kangaroos.

[532] It's a weird animal, man. It's a marsupial.

[533] Like, it's so strange.

[534] They have a pouch.

[535] They keep their babies in their skin.

[536] How'd they develop a backpack?

[537] It is the insaneest evolutionary.

[538] A little pouch.

[539] A bag.

[540] How does that, I mean, how does nature make you get a bag?

[541] That's so crazy.

[542] It's like one of the, out of all the animals, so like, where the fuck did that come from?

[543] Like, if you look at a deer and then you look at an elk, you go, oh, I kind of see.

[544] You look at a moose.

[545] You look at a caribou.

[546] You're like, oh, I can kind of see.

[547] And they're like, what's that?

[548] And why is it only in this one spot?

[549] And why does it jump like...

[550] Yo, is that an alien?

[551] What is that thing?

[552] Yeah.

[553] Why did it develop on Australia and nowhere else?

[554] What the fuck is that thing?

[555] And how come there's nothing that can kill it?

[556] And how come you stand on your tail and do like a stevo kick?

[557] And kick you.

[558] And do like a stevo kick.

[559] They kick you hard.

[560] Yeah.

[561] They fuck you up.

[562] They disembowl people, man. You got to be really careful with those fuckers.

[563] Oh, and they're...

[564] People die from the big ones.

[565] Are the big ones, the gray ones?

[566] The gray ones are the big one or the red one?

[567] Eddie Ift went over there and said, He was walking through a backyard, and there was like a six -foot -tall kangaroo.

[568] Jesus fucking Christ.

[569] He thought it was fake.

[570] He didn't know what it was.

[571] And his friend was screaming at him.

[572] Get, turn around.

[573] Get the fuck away from it.

[574] Jesus Christ.

[575] The red kangaroo.

[576] That's the big one?

[577] Dude, more soupial.

[578] That sounds like a fucking alien, too.

[579] 100 pounds.

[580] So you've got to think, a hundred pound thing that could run 43 miles an hour, and it could probably strangle you.

[581] Like those ones that are jacked?

[582] You ever see the one they, like choke out dogs?

[583] Of course, dude.

[584] Look at the fucking muscles on that thing.

[585] Of course, dude.

[586] What a freaky animal to have all over the place.

[587] But it just looks.

[588] Look at that one.

[589] I've seen all those pictures, by the way.

[590] That's one that went to my gym.

[591] That's Gold Gym.

[592] Look at that dude.

[593] This guy is...

[594] You know, he's just chilling.

[595] Flonting giant muscles.

[596] Look at the fucking guns on that, dude.

[597] What's up?

[598] Do you imagine getting in a scratching match with that thing with his giant claws?

[599] No, no, you're done.

[600] I mean...

[601] But they fuck you up, man. dangerous and they're all over the place but that was my question like what was supposed to be killing them because there's no like infestations of wild animals like that unless something disrupts the ecosystem huh you know because you don't usually usually there's a balance right like there's always going to be a balance between wolves and antelope and or wolves and bears wolves and deer because they're going to figure out who wins and if the wolves kill off too many of the deer then their population's going to drop they're going to run out of food and there's going to be like some sort of consequences and then their population drops down and then the deer population comes back a little bit nature has a way of balancing itself out in most environments until human beings step in and start fucking with things so my question is like what happened over in australia that that thing that one crazy animal becomes like hordes of them swarms of them like do you've Show some of those videos of the swarms of kangaroos just running.

[602] So these people are in their car, and you see just like, I don't even know what the number is.

[603] Yeah, and they're fast.

[604] They're fat, but it's also like, why are there so many of them?

[605] In any environment where there's something like this, there'd be something bigger that eats it.

[606] In every environment, there'd be a bear.

[607] There'd be something.

[608] I guess Australia has crocodiles, but I don't think they're doing such a good job of killing these things.

[609] Yeah, and natural predators are just like dog -like animals.

[610] Oh, maybe the thylacine.

[611] What the fuck is that?

[612] Okay.

[613] The Tasmanian tiger that went extinct.

[614] That's a native of Australia as well.

[615] They have that in Australia.

[616] But they should have to shoot so many kangaroos now.

[617] Where is that, Jamie?

[618] Tasmanian wolf and a dingo and a wedged -tailed eagle.

[619] Okay, so the humans probably killed all those animals.

[620] The humans probably killed all the dingoes.

[621] And what was the other animal?

[622] Wedged -tailed eagle.

[623] Makes sense.

[624] That's probably exactly what.

[625] it is.

[626] So, I bet.

[627] So the thylacine was Australia, though, right?

[628] And it says Tasmania.

[629] I just typed in marsupial natural predators, and Tasmanian wolf is the first one listed.

[630] Thylacine?

[631] Tasmanian wolf.

[632] Yeah, but the thylacine, the Tasmanian tiger.

[633] And then, yes, it says Tasmanian tiger before they were extinct and also humans.

[634] Was that ever in Australia?

[635] Am I making that up?

[636] I feel like that's in Australia.

[637] I mean, it definitely wasn't the movies as far as that.

[638] Right.

[639] That movie with, there's a good movie about a guy who goes to kill it.

[640] because they're trying to find it the last thylacine what the fuck is Willem Defoe it's a good movie so what it is an Australian native to Australian right okay so that there was that thing they you ever seen one they're freaky looking show the video of the last I thought thylacine was in that's a thylacine look at the mouth on that fucking thing look how big its mouth is isn't that insane it's like a horror movie look at this fucking mouth have you saw that thing opening its face at you It's a dog with a stripe and shit Yeah, it looks like a tiger It's a weird marsupial In fact Rare photos are the last I'm pretty sure they're marsupial as well So they think that thing might be still alive There might be limited numbers of them Well this isn't a Tasman That's not real Oh this is in color Oh they colorized it Oh okay Because I think the film is from like the 1930s But this is the last one And look they have it in a fucking box man Oh god zoos creep me out.

[641] We just get so comfortable with torturing some animal mentally.

[642] I understand, but can you bitches afford a larger piece of land, God damn it?

[643] Dude, this concrete.

[644] That's crazy.

[645] At the last of these things alive and you make it suffer in a small box with no pillow, there's nothing in there.

[646] I'm not a big zoo guy either.

[647] I hate them.

[648] Even as a kid, I remember, like, I just didn't.

[649] Yeah.

[650] I remember like, yeah, even just seeing, I remember seeing like a hippo in a zoo and All he has is a small, it's an Estonian zoo too.

[651] Yeah.

[652] And it's a small, like, just a dribble of water on his head.

[653] And he would just, just because they're all drugged out.

[654] And they would just do this, like, just.

[655] Because also, you know, the animal doesn't know.

[656] Dude, I was in Massachusetts once, and I was on my way home from, it was when I was driving limos.

[657] And I was coming down this highway, and I saw this really rinky -dink zoo.

[658] I think I was coming from New Hampshire I don't really remember But I remember it was a long drive And I had the rest of the day off So I said Fuck it I'm gonna go in this zoo And see what the fuck is going on in this zoo Just for funsies Because I was out there And I saw this polar bear I'll never forget this dude Just pacing Just pacing Just pacing Just pacing And I was like Oh my God he's in hell It's a horrible thing to watch man It's a horrible thing to watch because like that's a sentient being that's experiencing a very bizarre and prolonged suffering and a disconnection from it's kind there's no other bear with it it's just by itself by itself in this cement thing and while people stare at it something that would never happen in the real world he doesn't know what the fuck is happy because it's the wrong climate everything's wrong and he's like why is my shit all so shitty but henny he doesn't even know that he's in a totally wrong thing He probably's happy in Boston for like five months a year or four months of year.

[659] But even then, it's probably not cold enough for him.

[660] I mean, those fuckers, they're used to living in places where there's nothing but ice.

[661] But it's also like that thing of like they say that, oh yeah, but if you let him go, he would die.

[662] But that's also because you just, that's the - Well, you shouldn't have them in the first place.

[663] That's the matrix, the real world thing again, that animals also will have that thing where they're, if they're in the wild, I'm sure it's exactly like being in that matrix where in the zoo, yeah, you have all your food, all this stuff.

[664] stimulus, you're alive, but it's that you've got to get that stimulus.

[665] You're created to struggle, to hunt, to fucking...

[666] Right.

[667] Which is the...

[668] I mean, there's a lot of similarities in human beings.

[669] Absolutely.

[670] There's a lot of people that are zoo animals.

[671] It's like when you go to nature.

[672] Yeah.

[673] Like in Austin, because I do so much comedy, I'm also, I'm into cycling now, and sometimes I'll cycle out of the city, but every two weeks I have enough energy to do, like, a long cycle.

[674] and when I get to complete that's why I love Estonia too that it's silence in the woods that you have and you just feel because that's where for thousands of years we've been there that's where we've been in that silence with no and then you just feel rejuvenated immediately you know I love the sea I love the ocean I love woods I've always been a big and that's that's the same feeling you get you know it's just you feel it in your blood you know something's fucking it's raw Yeah, you're alive.

[675] It's uncomfortable, but it's raw.

[676] Yeah.

[677] Of course I want to be on Twitter in my farting and ordering Uber.

[678] Of course, I want to do that.

[679] That's the Matrix.

[680] That's the zoo.

[681] That's the matrix.

[682] It's the human zoo animal.

[683] And of course, outside is a fucking mosquito.

[684] There's a guy.

[685] Yeah.

[686] There's whatever, you know, you hear some fucking animal you don't know.

[687] I'm scared of fucking spiders, everything.

[688] The bomb goes off.

[689] You hear the first recoil.

[690] Yeah.

[691] You're out there when you hear it.

[692] Yeah.

[693] Then your feet start vibrating Boom They took Chicago Boom Jesus Christ Yeah That's what we have to look forward to The way this fucking Coofy place is being run Uh huh uh huh They're pushing us closer and closer to like Something So my luck that as soon as I come to America The fucking country collapses It's not collapsing But boy it's in a weird state of this strange struggle where people kind of forgot we're all supposed to be united and that's our strength and being divided the way we're being divided especially being divided by bullshit you know like you shouldn't be allowed to lie and you shouldn't be allowed to lie in a campaign ad and you shouldn't you shouldn't you shouldn't be allowed to use cGI to make your crowds look bigger like you shouldn't be allowed you shouldn't be allowed to do any of these things and we're allowing it And it's having this tremendous impact on the way people see the news.

[694] The news is so filtered.

[695] Everything in this country that's in mainstream news, you have to follow a certain set of rules in order to be able to get information out.

[696] And if you want to talk about the campaigns and if you want to talk about the war, and if you want to talk about what's going on in Ukraine and what's going on in Gaza, you have to have very specific narratives.

[697] And you're not allowed to deviate from that.

[698] at all and then that's what's giving you the news and so we're all like what the fuck is real and so anytime anything happens even when the president gets shot we're like was that even real like we don't think anything's real anymore and that's what primes us for the matrix when no one knows what anything's real anymore it's so much easier just slide right in Ari and fuck the world dude I'm in a secure apartment complex it's level five security there's bank vault doors that lock to make sure the marauders don't get in while you're connected.

[699] And you can just be free in this other world and ride around your dragon on Pandora.

[700] You know, you're fucking that blue lady with the hair.

[701] Remember they connected hairs with the dragon?

[702] Yeah.

[703] Wow.

[704] Yeah, that's what's going to happen.

[705] And we're going to give into it because we're making this world such a goddamn mess by not paying attention to what we're doing, not paying attention to the really important things.

[706] like don't let corporations tell you what's true they're not going to tell you what's true if they don't have to if they can get away and not tell you if they make more money if they don't tell you you can't have that that's not how you get your news they can't have that because it's just too easy to manipulate so easy to manipulate you know insiders trading is illegal but that's legal that's legal you can manipulate the news like what you can have certain companies can advertise on the news and then you'll never criticize those companies?

[707] That seems weird.

[708] That seems weird.

[709] Yeah, somebody was explaining how, isn't it crazy that how any politician that wants to get elected never mentions tobacco, alcohol, like never the, because of the bag.

[710] Yeah.

[711] You don't, you can't mention that shit.

[712] Which is crazy.

[713] You can kind of mention cigarettes because people are so stupid, they're going to smoke them anyway.

[714] It's just like, you can kind of get away with them.

[715] We should cigarettes, shit.

[716] terrible no one should smoke yeah yeah as soon as they could figure out like a spray like an inhaler they did they did outlawed those though excuse me they outlawed those a long time ago which is weird that allowed what cigarette ads or like oh sorry commercials yeah yeah on TV and radio did they still have them on the internet we've we haven't had tobacco or alcohol commercials for like 10 years now they used to only be in magazines and then your cigarette packs are so cool it's like a throwback to my childhood because it's like the red beautiful marble design in Europe and an Australian you know they have like the cancer on it and you have photos of like tumors and shit dead baby premature babies lung I'd like to see what else those people were doing 100 % 100 % they're blaming it on cigarettes that guy is probably all fucked up in a lot of different ways yeah 100 % but you mean you can criticize tobacco and no one only cares because people are going to keep smoking as long as it's legal it's like alcohol people are not going to stop drinking shut up they're not going to they want to drink they're having it out with friends have a cocktail clink salutes you know congratulations yay clink glasses they're not people like doing that they're not going to stop and part of the shit you want part of the excitement of the clink is the fact that it's bad a little bit come on a little bit that's the part of fun yeah it's a little bit yeah absolutely it's a little bit of uh let's have fun yeah and you know it's a good feeling When you're with friends and you have a couple of cocktails and you're laughing your ass off, like, dude, it's a good feeling.

[717] But you shouldn't do it every goddamn day.

[718] It shouldn't be your whole life.

[719] You shouldn't be drinking 12 hours a day every day.

[720] But that's why it's so exciting is that life is not infinite and you do take those small risks and that's what's so exciting.

[721] Also, people that do drink 20 hours a day, those people in your life, in your, in your, journey those people are examples where you can learn something without happening to actually do it yourself like you don't have to becoming alcoholic and ruin your life but you can see someone do it and say okay my stepdad was a bad one oh bad one of those were in the mornings he's because your system is you know your system is done in the mornings in the bathroom he would take two to three hours of like shitting the shitting and then just he you know because your body is just rejecting all this poison oh god so you hear him throw up every day every day and the violent you know there's no throw up left but it's just a heaving it's and then put on a suit put on a suit bloated as fuck put on a suit all happy puppy survive for eight hours and then he would i remember he would come home and as a child um he would come home and he would be in the car and just sit there in his car and i would see him sit there and as a child yeah As a child, you're like, oh, he's just taking a moment maybe.

[722] You don't understand that this guy is barely keeping it together.

[723] Yeah.

[724] Because he's about to go down a rabbit.

[725] And he's fighting the rabbit hole.

[726] Every day, he's just like, I don't want to.

[727] And then if you're drinking all the time, you're always tired.

[728] Small vodka bottles, small vodka bottles all the time.

[729] Get him quick.

[730] Like little airline ones?

[731] Yeah.

[732] And his hands, you know, when the sobriety starts coming.

[733] Ooh.

[734] It's a sketchy disease.

[735] It was bad.

[736] It was bad, yeah.

[737] But as a child, you're like, oh, my God, I never want to do that.

[738] But when you start getting gold.

[739] Was he ever happy when he was drunk?

[740] There was a tipping point.

[741] The way to become happy?

[742] No, it was like the first drink is always happy because your addiction is giving you all green lights.

[743] Right.

[744] When you have an addiction, the first hit of that substance, all your body is saying is less.

[745] It's all green lights, baby.

[746] this is the night this is the night yes let's fucking go because it's your it's your addiction yeah let's fucking rock and roll glass of whiskey but then you know as a child growing up in that environment there would always be that point where you see him on the couch and that look you know an alcoholic's look is you know the detachment of the soul yeah it's a dangerous look it's then it's time for you to go to your room you know and just fucking hang out there and wait for the storm to pass you know And it's like, um, and it was like, yeah, there was always that point of like, it's such a creepy fucking, and when you're a child, you're like, oh, don't do that.

[747] But when you start getting older, you also feel like, start feeling empathetic of like, you know, I don't know the life he lived as well, you know, substance abuse always works with trauma really well.

[748] They go hand to hand.

[749] So this guy's childhood, you know, the more I found out.

[750] Which is true, which is true.

[751] Because I hated him.

[752] I fucking hate, he was, uh, you know.

[753] if he's drinking heavily it also could be like family influenced like sometimes that's what I found out later behavior when you're young absolutely that's what I found out later that he was in a I thought I'm in a dark spot when he's home you know I had friends that became alcoholics that didn't necessarily have childhood trauma as much as they had childhood influence and then friends that kind of all went down a bad road and they were all like doing hard drugs and drinking a lot You know, it just becomes a part of the culture of your little community if you're hanging with a group of people that just likes to get fucked up all the time Yeah, it can I've seen it suck good people in like everybody wants to say that there's like some sort of a reason why you get sucked into it I have had friends that have nothing wrong in their life.

[754] They're happy people and they take oxies and they don't want to stop taking them Jesus they get injured something happens they take them they don't want to stop they feel good They don't want to stop.

[755] And essentially, oxycodone, we learned this recently, is what Hitler was taking during the war.

[756] They were giving him a form of oxycodone.

[757] That's these videos.

[758] We had this gentleman on the podcast the other day that, what was his name again?

[759] This book's right in front of you.

[760] Oh, here it is.

[761] Norman.

[762] Norman.

[763] Norman Oler, this is all about Hitler's drug use during World.

[764] World War II, but he was talking about that video, and he didn't think that video was real.

[765] I was like, why do you think that?

[766] Because he had a direct, like a line of history between when Hitler gets introduced to this one doctor and the drugs, this doctor's giving him.

[767] And that's the Olympic Games one.

[768] Yeah, so that's 36 that should be before all that stuff happened in his mind.

[769] But I'm of the opinion that Hitler, if you can get him to go on oxycodone a year from now, he's probably trying some shit that he didn't tell you about.

[770] That's what I would imagine.

[771] So the doctor, he's getting notes from the doctor who treated Hitler.

[772] How the fuck do we know how honest Hitler was with that doctor?

[773] He was probably already taking a bunch of shit.

[774] They already knew stuff was real.

[775] And when you're a leader, you don't want any of that information out there, you know, that you're fucking...

[776] Also, there was zero stigma when they first created meth.

[777] Oh, emphetamins.

[778] Yeah, and Norman was showing us this, what was it called, Pervedin?

[779] Is that the right name?

[780] So they had a literal brand of methamphetamine that they would sell in Germany.

[781] There's those commercials, you know, those German commercials.

[782] I've seen those.

[783] It's fucking crazy.

[784] They were all taking meth for productivity.

[785] Yeah, yeah.

[786] They were taking a low dose of meth, and they were given into the soldiers.

[787] So this Blitz book is insane because it's a story about how the Nazis were jacked up on meth, and they just went all the way through Poland in three days, and that they just never slept.

[788] They just kept marching.

[789] I used to have a bit that, you know, while Germany's were.

[790] testing with meth.

[791] You guys in America were testing with LSD, and I would have loved to see those two armies meet.

[792] By the way, no, that's another part of this thing.

[793] The Nazis were testing with LSD as well.

[794] They were running tests on the prisoners.

[795] They were running tests on concentration camp prisoners.

[796] Yeah.

[797] The test never came to fulfillment because the prison camps got liberated, but they were doing it.

[798] So they had record of them doing that with LSD.

[799] But meth is the perfect war drug.

[800] If you think of it, you just fucking get amped up and jump up.

[801] into a ditch with a bayonet.

[802] Right.

[803] You're going to go, you need some meth to have a bayonet.

[804] 100%.

[805] 100%.

[806] That's the right drug for a good soldier.

[807] Yeah.

[808] At the front of the line, and they had different dosages for different people.

[809] So if someone was in a tank, they get the most, they get the most meth.

[810] Because they're fucking, let's fucking go.

[811] That's the front of the line, you know?

[812] They're the ones are going to get attack first.

[813] So they have to be the most methed up.

[814] And who you put on LSD, the guy who plans the attack or something?

[815] Do you know that Was it Iraq or Afghanistan Where soldiers were listening to like death metal While they were operating tanks If you see Have you ever seen videos of dudes Like operating from inside of tanks It's death metal That's gonna be the craziest job The world has ever known You're in a giant metal box And you're moving it towards war And you're hoping that thing doesn't break You hope it doesn't break And leave you out there you're hoping that when it gets shot at or who knows the transmission fails and then you're out there in enemy territory while they're shooting missiles at you i've always thought like because the germans were the first ones with a tank with a panzer right that was correct right i don't know i think so i think so and i remember always thinking like imagine like being like a russian soldier or something and you're with like a bolt action rifle and you see that fucking but you hear a crack crack you don't even know what the fuck that is yeah and you're like a car but then you see and dude that feel clunk nothing cluck cluck clunk oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god a tank a tank what an insane idea it's basically what the scene is from walk by the western front's pretty oh pretty fucking badass yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah oh exactly this the first time they see the tank look at this fuck look at this imagine you can't stop them it's literally like seeing a transformer right now like if you would see they have no idea what to do and nobody told you right it's a good movie to watch yeah nobody i watch it it's an amazing movie i heard it's awesome i heard it's that's the new one right it's different from the book slightly but it's still it's a sad yeah well i'm sure there's no happy war movies yeah that's how you know no movies bullshit some american ones are fucking awesome black rock down jarhead Those are all fucking amazing, dude.

[816] The pink mist.

[817] Missing in action.

[818] I don't know.

[819] Chuck Norris.

[820] Oh, really?

[821] Goes back to Vietnam.

[822] Bring people back.

[823] The American made...

[824] Trollty kicks in the jungle with cowboy boots on.

[825] American movies made wars seem the coolest shit ever, you know?

[826] Not always.

[827] Saving Private Ryan certainly didn't.

[828] Yeah, fair.

[829] That was like...

[830] It was a good...

[831] It's a full metal jacket certainly didn't.

[832] Yeah.

[833] That's my favorite.

[834] That is a good.

[835] That's my favorite.

[836] I haven't watched that in all the war movies.

[837] I was too young when I saw it The apocalypse now Here it is This is missing in action Chuck Dorrish is What is he He's right around On an inflatable This is the America I grew up in They're all shooting out of A bitch you can't hit him He's Chuck Norris And so he just Spitting around I love that it's a boat And they're shooting at a boat And nothing happens It's a rubber boat They can't even come close To hit him And then they go chase after him Guess what's going to happen Well I'll tell you right now Chuck Norse Gonna fuck them up Because he's Chuck Norris So funny Oh my God, he jumps in like awkward, man. What the fucking machine?

[838] Look at him, look at him, look at him, look at him.

[839] Bitch, you didn't get chugnarles.

[840] Gah, ga, gah.

[841] I mean, these movies are amazing.

[842] Amazing.

[843] They're amazing because they're like, almost like you're watching a cartoon, you know.

[844] But then you can get, like, full metal jacket, which is, that's an intense, that's a totally different experience.

[845] Like, that's war, I think, in a much more realistic light.

[846] For sure.

[847] What those people experienced.

[848] Yeah, for sure.

[849] Can you imagine being a fucking kid back in the 60s when you didn't really have any way of knowing what the fuck was actually going on in Vietnam?

[850] And also, yeah, they're saying that the fucking end of the world's coming and you're on the last frontier.

[851] You know, you have no way to check it.

[852] And even questioning it would be in bad taste, you know.

[853] Yeah, you're not supposed to.

[854] And the people are labeled traitors like Muhammad Ali.

[855] That is true that the American troop.

[856] Oh, yeah, that's a crazy.

[857] Bro.

[858] Donofo killed this.

[859] too young i saw this too young because i didn't quite get it you know uh you should watch it again yeah i have to fucking great fucking dark i remember that scene when he was in the bathroom before he shot himself in the face with and he put his toe through the fucking yeah rifle yeah that is true that the american troops were much more because you've never been invaded so right at least our trauma that we heard from grandfathers and shed with swallows about like it was almost a heroic thing of standing up for your country whereas American maybe it's kind of like why are you going there and that trauma must be bad when you're coming back because they told you that it's you're the fucking you have to save the world basically well they were telling them that they had to fight the communists right and they told them that the communist North Korea had attacked a boat an American boat that never happened the Gulf of Tonkin incident Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[860] They just made up this story.

[861] So they made up this propaganda bullshit, and they created a false flag.

[862] And through that, they justified us going into war.

[863] And it went on for a long fucking time, and it didn't make any sense.

[864] And no one today thinks it made any sense.

[865] No one today thinks it makes a good idea, or it was a good idea, rather, unless you're some insane war lover.

[866] Anybody look at Vietnam?

[867] Well, Vietnam overall is a net positive, because here's what we got out of Vietnam.

[868] This is what came out of that.

[869] War.

[870] Okay, first of all, the culture shifted.

[871] That's how it needed to happen.

[872] Like, you couldn't even come up with justifications.

[873] Why would we go into this country and firebomb them and spray Agent Orange and who knows how many people come home with fucking cancer?

[874] Because you used a deforestation technique that's like this horrific chemical.

[875] It kills people.

[876] Mm -hmm.

[877] Crazy.

[878] It's nuts.

[879] It's nuts.

[880] And they did it because people back then didn't have any access to information.

[881] There was no way to know.

[882] There was no exposés showing that, you know, this is not a real attack.

[883] There's no reason for us to be over there.

[884] There's other things involved here that's causing people to want to send U .S. troops to Vietnam, and probably none of them good for you.

[885] Like, you really, as a United States citizen, that's why, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[886] Best served, the world be best served with you right here.

[887] Well, 100%.

[888] 100%.

[889] You need to go over there and firebama village because someone told you to you don't need to go over there and fucking climb into a tunnel and go and try to fight some Viet Cong guy in there this is insane why are you there makes no sense but they trick people and they did it for a long ass time it went on for years and so the fact that they can still pull it off today that they can still I mean who knows today like what we're going to look back on like we look at the Gulf of Tonkin incident or what we're going to look back on and realized that it had been manipulated so the event was real but the event was caused by a series of moves behind the scenes to ensure that war takes place and there's so much complication when it comes to these things because there's so much money being thrown around yeah and then at least today we have other outlets for information at least today you can kind of get a sense of how things are true or not true based on really intelligent people that you know that are online that are talking about them, and you go, no, it's actually this.

[890] Like, with that female boxer, like, that was a big one, right?

[891] Where everybody's like, okay, what is going on?

[892] Yeah.

[893] Is that a female?

[894] Is that a male?

[895] Is that someone has X, Y, chromosomes?

[896] I saw that information that it was the X, Y thing early, but it was just the Levine of that, that it's a man, just came a bit too strong.

[897] Because the both information came out pretty much.

[898] I would, in my sources, I would say I saw in similar time, where it was like, oh, it's a man, but then you just open another scroll a bit more, and then you see the X, Y, chromosome thingy, and then you're like, okay, but just the Levine of that attitude came on a bit strong.

[899] Well, X, Y, chromosome is a male.

[900] Yeah, yeah, it's that male, yeah, but the definition of, like, was, because I think the first reaction was that it's a man transitioning to a woman.

[901] Right, that's what people thought initially.

[902] And then they realized, no, this is someone who has a genetic issue.

[903] but the the the there was another there's a boxing committee that had in for i'm going to send you this jamie because this kind of makes it all make like a little bit more sense but it was essentially that um there's there's different versions of these kinds of diseases that people have and depending on those versions some of them they're just they're they go through male puberty and they have male frames and they're male.

[904] But when they're born, they have like some significant issues.

[905] Okay, so here it is.

[906] I found it and I'll send it to you, Jamie, but it's European vice president of the world boxing organization has come forward to confirm that Algerian boxer and Maine Kleefe is male.

[907] This person said he warned the Olympic committee about several male boxers in the women's category, but nothing was done.

[908] Who knows?

[909] You know, I don't, I don't have any direct information about whether that is a male or female.

[910] Let's just say that one -two slaps.

[911] The one -two's not bad, but also that person's lost before.

[912] Yeah.

[913] To female boxers.

[914] But here's the thing.

[915] But that doesn't mean that, like, there's a lot of girls out there, boys, that can kick your ass.

[916] Exactly.

[917] There are, you know.

[918] Get in the ring with a man of Nunes.

[919] Good luck, bitch.

[920] She'll fuck you up, and she's a woman, right?

[921] There's women that are really, really good, and this person might not be that good, but it seems like they went through male puberty, which should exclude you from competing as a woman.

[922] They look male, they have male frame, they have X, Y, chromosome.

[923] You're being told that you're a bigot for looking at very obvious what we have always considered biological representations, right?

[924] So, like, what is it in biology when something is a male human being?

[925] Do they have an X, X chromosome, or do they have an X, Y?

[926] They say, well, they have an X, Y. Well, we know that.

[927] But saying that makes you a bigot, which is insanity.

[928] As a sports commissioner, that's very black and white for me, at least a chromosomal issue.

[929] Well, that's what the enhanced games is thinking about doing.

[930] As a human, I do feel empathetic towards her, you know.

[931] It's just, it's a bit of a pickle.

[932] Yeah, but I don't necessarily know if that's a her.

[933] This is the problem.

[934] What they're saying, it's a male with a, sexually some developmental disease that they, or developmental issue, some genetic anomaly, something that happens to them.

[935] But they're going, they have testes, and they go through male puberty, and they don't have the ability to get pregnant.

[936] Yeah.

[937] I don't even know if they have ovaries.

[938] Do they have ovaries?

[939] I don't know.

[940] In this situation, I don't think they have eggs.

[941] I'm reading a version that CBS Sports put out where they talk to the International Olympics committee and the IBA?

[942] They're saying these tests are not legitimate tests.

[943] Yeah, I was going to bring this up too.

[944] They were saying that some people think that it's because the Soviets did them.

[945] They don't trust them.

[946] So the International Olympic Committee spokesperson, Mark Adams said in a press conference on Sunday, the tests themselves, the process of the test and the ad hoc nature of the test are not legitimate.

[947] The testing, the method of the testing, the idea of the testing, which happened kind of overnight.

[948] None of it is legitimate, and this does not deserve any response.

[949] Okay, that's By saying it's not legitimate Is a very weird thing I had read it came up after this event Where she beat an undefeated boxer And then people got Right Mad Right But did this person Let's Google this then Did this person, this boxer Did they take a chromosome test?

[950] Did you see that article that's on you?

[951] This article says that that originally Right here Originally, the test was kept confidential.

[952] Did not go on, did not undergo a testosterone examination, but were subject to a separate and recognized test whereby the specifics remained confidential.

[953] Then the next day, or like Monday, I don't know how many days later that was.

[954] Then they came out and said something different.

[955] These testing show they have a high level of testosterone.

[956] Kremlev said, like men, they have men's level of testosterone.

[957] We cannot go further in our investigation, whether they were born like men or some, changers intervene at the later stages and then that's where the IOC said what you read earlier where this tests are not legitimate right right but they're not saying why they're not legitimate this is what gives me pause when they just keep saying it's not legitimate the ad hoc nature of the tests are not legitimate you have to say when you're talking about a scientific test there's some test it's repeatable right so if you can test for X Y chromosome versus X X X chromosome do it tell me what there's results are.

[958] If you can test for testosterone, do it.

[959] Tell me what the results are.

[960] And if one says male, says X, Y, and the other one says high levels of testosterone, that's not a woman.

[961] Sports wise, yeah.

[962] Sports wise.

[963] Yeah.

[964] That one two slaps with those shoulders.

[965] But it's also, it's like, what are we doing?

[966] Like, why do we have women sports in the first place if you let, I mean, you could say that some people have a genetic anomaly, like that woman, she had X, X, X, Y. Right?

[967] She was like a legitimate hermaphrodite, I believe.

[968] Testosterone levels, not X, Y, chromosome, which is the pattern typically seen in men, are the key criteria of eligibility in Olympic events where the sports governing body has framed and approved rules.

[969] That's interesting.

[970] But it's the same thing with when like totally, I mean, genetic women start doing steroids.

[971] That's the whole thing about women's sports is the big problem.

[972] I remember like...

[973] Once they do it, they change their frame.

[974] I'm not making accusations, but Chris Cyborg.

[975] I remember was a big thing in Strike Force where it was the first time I saw where I was like, this is a big loophole in women's sports right now, especially combat sports because it's about doing actually physical damage.

[976] 100%.

[977] It's very visibly seen the difference.

[978] In other sports where it's reaction time and whatever tennis or whatever, you might make the argument of like just get better at the technique, you know.

[979] But in combat, it's very visible.

[980] Because it's not only about the body and whatever.

[981] It's literally people who are on testosterone has been proven harder to KO because you're just ramped up.

[982] Testosterone, it's literally like the caught particle in the sense of fucking sports.

[983] They've stopped some fighters from fighting because they tested so high.

[984] Absolutely.

[985] They're like, get out of here.

[986] This fucking guys.

[987] Yeah.

[988] I remember it was who failed.

[989] I remember it was Jelson and Alistair over him.

[990] They used to fail tests where it was like, like the number, it's like, there's the rage of 18 men coming at you right now.

[991] Well, that's Vitor Belford in his prime, right?

[992] Oh.

[993] The TRT Vitor days?

[994] Yeah, I only could be it in Brazil.

[995] I want to be home.

[996] Oh, sure.

[997] Like a demon, he would come at you.

[998] Like a demon.

[999] Yeah.

[1000] He would have those videos where he was like an elliptical machine.

[1001] The thing about this, too, it's like if they're saying they're testing for testosterone levels, how often are you doing that?

[1002] Because guess what?

[1003] It's easy to make your testosterone levels crash, real easy.

[1004] Well, the whole thing is always that it's, that testings.

[1005] Yeah.

[1006] You can, it's like pirating.

[1007] Right.

[1008] They're always a step ahead.

[1009] They're always.

[1010] But all you have to do to kill your testosterone levels are drink alcohol, eat shitty food, and don't get any sleep.

[1011] We just fucking live in the mountains of Dagestan and hope the connection flight is a bit late.

[1012] that's dude that's oh very interesting that you went to a training camp yeah they're the best wrestlers huh very interesting well they are the best wrestlers true but jacked yeah so is that what you're saying yeah yeah well I would imagine that if they knew for a fact that you couldn't get to the North Pole to do a drug test yeah there'd be a fucking MMA camp on the North ball yeah also I went to a camp in Thailand back in the day and I remember over there it was like not even a secret really I go to that camp and it's like American fighters would be there and everybody would know that that's why they're doing no no not everybody would know they'd be like fucking who it'd be like handing out shots at a bar who wants the syringe you know what are we doing and there's not dude these are all retards there are just smoking joints and sparring there's nobody doing like we need to So, it was like, no, fucking give me what you got.

[1013] And are these people like pros?

[1014] Semi -pro.

[1015] You know, you live in a Honda Civic and every once in a while you move back to your parents' place because it's the struggle.

[1016] Fighting's really hard.

[1017] It's hard, dude.

[1018] So you, so people don't know you, when did you start doing stand -up comedy and when were you fighting at the same time you were doing stand -up comedy?

[1019] Did they overlap?

[1020] There was a transitionary period.

[1021] And I started, okay, so this is my martial arts history.

[1022] Of course, as I mentioned, had a stepdad who was fucking crazy.

[1023] So there was that insecurity.

[1024] You know, there's that thing of like, I'm not saying that having a father who's maybe violent towards your mother is a bit better.

[1025] But I think there's a bit of a more evolutionary connection that a family dynamic can have.

[1026] Whereas if you're like a 12 to 13, 14 year old boy and a new guy, you're supposed to be.

[1027] to be the man of the house even though you're a child right you're support you're it's my sister and my mother and it's our dynamic and a new guy moves in and this retard is now and he's an alcoholic yeah so that creates obviously so you know a deep sadness in the house tension no dude i would still not my mom rift city my mom has always been rift city she was she was always having fun throughout all the darkness in our life we had a we had some rough periods you know wow but in my house it's always been fun city I would always it's always been my humor I would literally dude I would have points where it's me and my mother on fucking because we would let's leave the house during the night you know we just walk towards a my sister was a bit older so she moved out so we would just walk in the night towards the direction and she would try to call all her friends where to stay for the night because this ape is fucking going bananas back home and there would be we would be on the side walk, you know.

[1028] So what did you start out with?

[1029] What was the first martial arts?

[1030] And the next day I would go to school and still be fucking happy puppy just because, I don't know, that was how we came up, right?

[1031] So then there was this program called Kickass Martial Arts and it was Chris Crudelli, this guy.

[1032] Soul Patch, British guy.

[1033] He would travel the world.

[1034] And this was at a point where pride and UFC were happening but in traditional martial arts were still holding on Wing Chun was holding on Aikido was holding on Kung Fu was kind of going away you know but Chris Crudely had a program where he would travel the world and study these ancient there was like Tim Muck where it's like and seven years later you die of cancer you know all that shit and as a kid I'm like oh that's all I got to do move to Korea for two weeks study this fucking death touch and just come back and kill somebody, you know.

[1035] Yeah.

[1036] But then I remember I saw UFC, I saw a few pride vites from Fedor Emilienenko because he was Russian and he was a big prominent figure in the martial arts community, but I remember I saw Loto Machida Shogun the first one.

[1037] And in my head, because Machita looked like a traditional martial artist, you know, because he was half Asian or something, you know.

[1038] So in my head, I'm like, why doesn't he do the, why don't these people do the Chris Crudelli shit, you know?

[1039] fucking neutralize your opponent to a wrist lock.

[1040] Then I started watching Pride Wanderle Silva.

[1041] He's stomping people, holding onto the ropes, stomping.

[1042] And in my head, why doesn't he do the dim muck?

[1043] You know, hi!

[1044] And you fucking...

[1045] So then, I was maybe 15, 16, late, late.

[1046] When I was doing gymnastics and I was doing a bit of weightlifting and I saw dudes like wrestling, you know.

[1047] And I started thinking, like Gregor Roman, and I saw them like suplexed guys in fucking just suplexing each other and that's where the wheels start turning of like dude you're not going to wrist lock this guy you're not going to you know I'm not going to death touch this guy this guy's going to run through me so I joined a gym SPG subsidiary Jim Breit Michelson shout out my man he was a great mentor and a father figure at that time for me and I joined his gym and it was Jiu -Jitsu M. We did everything together you know and I had my first amateur fight like five months into into like doing it that's crazy that's crazy that's crazy did they make sure the person you fought didn't have a lot of experience either yes but he was like 34 oh no that's not fair and he went to war he was like a former military stood down a tank Jesus Christ but he was still amateur rules, but still MMA gloves fucking haymaker city, you know?

[1048] Right.

[1049] Was he good?

[1050] Yeah, he choked me to sleep.

[1051] I didn't tap.

[1052] I didn't tap.

[1053] Never tapped.

[1054] Never tapped.

[1055] I tried to tap.

[1056] I was too late.

[1057] But...

[1058] Yeah, I would not recommend that.

[1059] I would not recommend you getting your ass kick by someone who has a lot more experienced at five months in.

[1060] I always think you got to give...

[1061] I think we were the same experience in martial arts, but he was a man. Dude, I'm a suburban boy.

[1062] Was he, though?

[1063] Let me tell you something.

[1064] If he got to be how old, 30 -something, and he went to war, that dude's had training.

[1065] Yeah, I mean, it's not just five months of training.

[1066] Yeah, yeah, the fact.

[1067] Listen, that kind of guy is done a little bit here, a little bit there.

[1068] That kind of guy probably boxed a little when he was younger, did a little karate.

[1069] We were, such a small community that I still trained with him, I remember, and, yeah, boy, it was fine.

[1070] So he was nice to you?

[1071] After he choked his sleep?

[1072] No, before, I mean.

[1073] Oh, you train with him before?

[1074] Yeah, it was such a small community, you know.

[1075] So I wouldn't say the skill discrepancy was actually that big, but it was just when you go to war and you can be in a competition, I'm having a full -on panic attack.

[1076] Yeah.

[1077] You know, I'm fucking first time in a fucking hand -to -hand combat situation.

[1078] You're a kid, he's a man. This guy's just stared down a tank.

[1079] How old were you at the time?

[1080] 16.

[1081] Yeah, that's not fair.

[1082] Yeah.

[1083] And also like a pussy 16.

[1084] Another like a Pakistani 16 where it's like hair on my knuckles and I have two kids.

[1085] those are like the real dude whenever you would in those amateur circuits whenever it's like I don't know if Americans do that but like if you say you're fighting an American do you guys slip in that it's like it's Jerome you know you're going to just so you're ready it's going to be a bit of explosive opponent like in Estonia it's like if you're finding a Russian guy are you finding Ivan who's like me he's a Russian guy or are you fighting somebody whose names ends with a Mamatov it's a very different it's still Russian Yeah, mountain Russians.

[1086] We say from the hills.

[1087] Yeah, we always say from the hills.

[1088] Like, it's a bit of a, it's a bit of a different double leg that's going to come at you.

[1089] Dude, did you see that Corey Sanhagen, Umar, Nirmogamato fight?

[1090] Of course, of course.

[1091] Ooh, so high level.

[1092] I felt bad for Sanhagen.

[1093] He was wrestling so well, everything correctly.

[1094] It was everything, Sanhagen was cool.

[1095] He didn't get backed up into the corner too early.

[1096] He was keeping his distance.

[1097] He had good knees.

[1098] And good Jujit, what I liked about Sankan in that fight, he used Jiu Jitsu.

[1099] He used proper Jiu Jitsu.

[1100] And for the first two rounds, it's exactly like the Khabib thing.

[1101] The first two rounds, you can actually out -hustle, not out -hustle him, but you can just, you can be explosive enough to create those moments of Jiu -Jitsu where you can stay safe.

[1102] Right.

[1103] But that train just keeps coming.

[1104] The train keeps coming.

[1105] Just fucking keeps coming and mean.

[1106] And mean.

[1107] in Umar versus Khabib is that umar is his stand -up is his so dynamic his kicking is so dynamic it's so dangerous and quick you know like he throws head kicks off the front leg quick he throws things that are fast yeah he threw that front switch kick yeah not even a switch it was just he just slapped it out there yeah dude he's good he's fucking real good his striking was on point like everything was on point and he's more threatening wrestling very It's like it was a more potent combination of the skills that Corey has as well.

[1108] I mean, he's a, he's, Sanhagen's brilliant.

[1109] He's one of the best fighters in the sport, in my opinion.

[1110] Yeah.

[1111] So to see a guy like Umar beat him, you're like, wow, that's hot.

[1112] And to come on strong in the fourth and the fifth, that guy's, that guy's fucking good, man. Yeah, he's fucking good.

[1113] And him versus O'Malley would be wild, wild, or Marab.

[1114] Him versus Marab will be wild too.

[1115] Well, Marab and him I want to see more because Marab is also a bully.

[1116] He's a bully.

[1117] He's a bully.

[1118] He's made different.

[1119] He's made out of different stuff.

[1120] They say Marab trains hard, like right up to the fight.

[1121] But you can see that.

[1122] Right up to the fight.

[1123] You can see that.

[1124] Animal.

[1125] With a guy like that, you're always like, okay, how long can your joints hold out?

[1126] Exactly.

[1127] How long is it going to be before your back goes?

[1128] Because your will carry you through.

[1129] If the human body wasn't so goddamn friend, Agile cause like that would never get beat.

[1130] Never get beat.

[1131] That's the whole thing.

[1132] Like Kane Velasquez when his body started going?

[1133] Also Maraub's been dropped and hurt.

[1134] Oh, yeah.

[1135] I think it was Marlon Verra.

[1136] Maraise.

[1137] Bad.

[1138] Marlon Maraise.

[1139] Bad.

[1140] Had him really badly.

[1141] Bad.

[1142] And then he went out and stopped him in the next round.

[1143] Yeah, exactly.

[1144] Well, Marais had that thing where...

[1145] Poor bastard.

[1146] This guy feels so bad for him because he was so good.

[1147] So good.

[1148] But just, it's such a chaotic sport where a few bad...

[1149] Fights just can have such a tremendous impact to your fights that the next ones, you know.

[1150] Well, the Sohuda fight, man, the first round, he was lighting Henry up.

[1151] Lighting him up.

[1152] Where I was like, if this guy can keep this up for five rounds, Henry's going to get stopped.

[1153] No bad.

[1154] Henry just came on in the second round like an animal and beat the shit out of him.

[1155] He closed the distance and made it ugly.

[1156] He had one in PFL too with that left hook and that switch kick.

[1157] Ah!

[1158] Yeah.

[1159] He killed Alderman Sterling.

[1160] Oh, yeah, man. Bad.

[1161] He KOed Al Jemaine bad.

[1162] Went for a switch kick to the body.

[1163] Algeman shot in the knee.

[1164] But then once he lost to Henry, he started losing to a lot of folks.

[1165] A lot.

[1166] And now it's like...

[1167] There was the...

[1168] San Hagen dropped in with a wheel kick.

[1169] Remember that?

[1170] Yeah.

[1171] That was a bad one, too.

[1172] Yeah, that was a bad one.

[1173] Right to the tempo.

[1174] Yeah.

[1175] That just shows the skill diversity that guy has.

[1176] He could do everything.

[1177] San Hagan's so good.

[1178] Everything.

[1179] So to watch Umar beat him and like, God damn, Umar's the truth.

[1180] He's the truth.

[1181] it's like those guys in that part of the world yeah and they're so frustrating because it's not like an incredible thing that they're doing you know if you watch somebody like Conan McGregor who has that fucking death touch it's such a spectic it's such like oh my god this guy just has the power right but these guys just out hustle you out grind you and they keep coming they keep annoying and bully and mean but then you got guys like Islam that could do everything.

[1182] And Umar, this is the difference.

[1183] Yeah, right?

[1184] Like, Islam is scary standing up.

[1185] Like in the beginning of his career, he was really good at wrestling, not as good at standing up, but now he's just as good at standing up.

[1186] When you can KO Volkinovsky like that, you know, and then you choke out Dustin Poirier like that, like that, like that guy, he's got, that's the full thing, right?

[1187] He can head kick you.

[1188] He could strike with you and knock.

[1189] You knocked out glaced teabout with one shot standing yeah he can knock you out like legitimately and he could still strangle you and he can still smother you like it's the perfect combination but it's like that is such a crazy strategy it's like you're outmanning every guy you fight his outgrapling him out striking him most people like try to be like a specialist exactly but they're like the full marauder the full marauder man yeah i think if you wanted to like really think about like who's the most complete fighter.

[1190] You got to, you say like Max Holloway, Ilya, but Islam Makachev, you got to put it at the top of the.

[1191] They're the most complete.

[1192] He could KO you with a head kick.

[1193] Just like John Jones, if John Jones is active.

[1194] Let's not forget the one true God.

[1195] John Jones, that's my boy.

[1196] The problem with John is...

[1197] This is the most dangerous man who've ever lived.

[1198] Unfortunately, that shoulder injury and then the uncertainty about moving up in the heavyweight, like how is he going to deal with guys like France?

[1199] which was always the big fight.

[1200] That was the big fight.

[1201] That was the fight that slipped between our fingers.

[1202] It was the Fador, Brock Lesnar, all over again.

[1203] That was the big one that slipped through our fingers.

[1204] That was the fight.

[1205] Because, you know, the question is, would Francis be able to keep John off of him?

[1206] Exactly.

[1207] You know, and would John be able to avoid the big strike standing?

[1208] Exactly.

[1209] You know, there's a difference in size.

[1210] That's pretty significant.

[1211] Significant.

[1212] Even when John was getting big, it's a different kind of big.

[1213] You know, it's like the 265 that Francis carries around, that's a natural, lean 265.

[1214] I mean, it's a co -what was it, cobalt mining or some shit?

[1215] No, sand mines.

[1216] Sand mines, yeah.

[1217] That's a different A little different guy.

[1218] That dude's power is extraordinary.

[1219] Especially with them little gloves on, you cannot get clipped by that guy.

[1220] You cannot get clipped by that guy.

[1221] So the question is, would John be able to get a hold of Francis?

[1222] Would Francis be able to keep John off of him?

[1223] If Francis can keep John off of him, would Francis be able to stop those leg kicks?

[1224] Because John's sidekicks this shit out of people's knees and it'll fucking scare you because it makes your leg hyper -extend and blow your knee out.

[1225] Mean.

[1226] It's mean.

[1227] I loved John Jones when he was mean.

[1228] Glover DeSera with that with that overhook.

[1229] Remember that overhook that he had on the shoulder?

[1230] Yeah, man. Yeah.

[1231] Mean.

[1232] Elbows.

[1233] How about Tiago?

[1234] Tiago had to get two knee surgeries.

[1235] Both knees were blown apart.

[1236] As soon as he goes out.

[1237] Put him to sleep, just dropped him.

[1238] Yeah.

[1239] Well, his run in the light heavyweight division.

[1240] vision was unprecedented.

[1241] Nothing, nothing like it.

[1242] Literally created for human combat.

[1243] His body looked insane.

[1244] Small torso with limbs coming out.

[1245] It looked insane.

[1246] If you saw his silhouette looks insane.

[1247] Right.

[1248] And how small as calves are.

[1249] Yeah.

[1250] But yet, tremendous strength.

[1251] And strong.

[1252] And the best guy ever at, like, utilizing distance.

[1253] Strong mentally, for sure.

[1254] Mentally.

[1255] And clever.

[1256] Yeah, we just have to see him back.

[1257] apparently they're trying to do that thing it's supposed to be in Madison Square Garden right is that announced officially young Jamie John Jones versus Steepay Medes Square Garden November so there's being talked about also no respect to Steepa but I don't want to see that fight that badly as I want to see you know I feel like you gotta give Steepay one more shot okay I feel like the guy's been strung around for this long if you want to respect the history and the lineage of the UFC heavyweight championship you're right he's the most accomplished UFC heavyweight of all time he defended the title more than anybody and you know he stopped Daniel Cormier he's a legit fucking killer he stopped a lot of like very very good people he stopped junior Delsontos he also won francis yeah he beat francis the first fight and he heard him the second time yeah um but the second time it was a different francis he's like one of the scariest chaos I've ever seen in my life in the apex yeah being there live was incredible oh you were alive oh yeah so there was like a hundred people in that place when he followed up with the hammerfish to the neck area and that thud bro that left hook was and it was like when stepe was trying to like capitalize on a shot he landed it's one of those victories where me and the boys were on the couch and it's not a woo it's a just a yeah yeah it's a oh yeah it's a oh yeah yeah it's a oh yeah Because also you know how much damage Steepa has taken in his career.

[1258] Jesus Christ.

[1259] And Steepa hurts him.

[1260] There it is.

[1261] He hit him with that left hook and really hurt him there.

[1262] Yeah, yeah.

[1263] But Steepa also hurts him.

[1264] Steve also hurts him.

[1265] Look at this.

[1266] Bing!

[1267] And now Steeper goes, oh.

[1268] And he thought he had it.

[1269] So he moved in.

[1270] The neck.

[1271] Aye, aye, aye.

[1272] He thought he had him when he landed that right hand.

[1273] Christ, my Lord.

[1274] So apparently he's gained a bunch of muscle.

[1275] Steepay has.

[1276] He's been lifting a lot.

[1277] and you know he hasn't fought in two years thank god i'm doing comedy yeah thank god but for me when i look at an older fighter like stepe who's a legend i say that's kind of what i want i want a guy to take a long time off in between a bad chaos and then you know no one's more disciplined than that guy he's a very disciplined dedicated fighter that's why he was the most successful ufc heavyweight champion ever he's also 40 something years old right 42 i think even okay so you got to if you just look realistically at natural athletes when they get to that age you have concerns like how much of their performance do they have left like and it varies but it does last longer as a heavyweight absolutely heavy weights they can because it doesn't the nervous system doesn't need to be as a rapid fire as in a like a bantam weight yeah like 42 year old bantam weight's kind of done but george foreman won the heavyweight title at 45 absolutely so uh bernard hopkins yeah but bernard was a freak I just feel like as a fan and as a person who respects the sport, you've got to give Steep A's shot.

[1278] Okay.

[1279] Yeah, yeah.

[1280] Especially when he was supposed to fight John and then John tore his shoulder.

[1281] See, with me, it's just like if, if, uh, it's a classic thing of it's the mean quote that Don King used to have that.

[1282] Why he, when they asked him why he was like ripping off Mike Tyson, he was like, you got to keep the lion hungry, you know?

[1283] Oh, God.

[1284] Imagine that's your justification for stealing money.

[1285] I know, I know.

[1286] But Mike Tyson fought six times that year, so.

[1287] that's true right that's true but that is for some of those guys that that's what not some it's as soon as because you know I was a big Connor guy SBG the lineage we had a connection you know and as soon as Connor started getting rich I was in you know as soon as John Jones got rich all of us I'm at home let me guess never gonna see you I don't think that's what happened with John with John there was a bunch of other factors true lifestyle like absolutely and that's why that steep a fight is also exhilarating of like the traditional family guy in the gym the and then the other guy who's wagon the greatest psycho that's ever and i love it dude when he went to Vegas to get his hall of fame uh induction and just disappeared into the night um i like uh the aspinol how many milligrams are those uh threes can i have one Yeah, this is athletic nicotine, it's another company.

[1288] Somebody gave me an 8 milligram yesterday.

[1289] Oh, that's too much.

[1290] I was having a panic attack at 2 a. That's too ridiculous.

[1291] That's too ridiculous.

[1292] I'm saying a panic attack at 2 a. I've cut my consumption quite a bit.

[1293] I like that fight.

[1294] I think John Jones and Tom Aspinall is an interesting fight.

[1295] But if we just have...

[1296] Tom is a big, fast heavyweight.

[1297] He's a fucking powerhouse man. And he's big.

[1298] He's big as shit.

[1299] Big as shit.

[1300] If you look at fights where...

[1301] John has had difficulty some of them have been like really elite strikers like he had some difficulty with Liota Machita before he got a first round Machida he had some difficulty with Dominic Reyes absolutely Dominic Reyes some people even thought he he lost that fight absolutely even Diago no not Silva Santos that's the guy who would kick both his knees out yeah but that was a split decision yeah and even there Diego was even though Diego was hectic and and temperamental in his exchange is not like a refined striker.

[1302] But he's just super dangerous.

[1303] It created problems for Jones, too.

[1304] That fucking sledgehammer that that dude has tattooed on his chest.

[1305] That's for real.

[1306] That's how hard he hits.

[1307] Dude had a sledgehammer tattooed on his tits.

[1308] It's amazing.

[1309] But that dude was scary.

[1310] But also with Aspinel and Jones, you know, every time people say, dude, watching him and Cyril Gahn, in all respect to Cyril Gahn, but he never felt anything.

[1311] It was a made -up guillotine even, just on the cage.

[1312] He just was like, check this shit out.

[1313] Yeah, but as long as he gets a hold of your neck and he's doubling you up in that position where he can press his chest on your head, with a guy like John with his kind of squeeze, that's horrific.

[1314] A guy like serial gun that's only been grappling for like five years, you're going to get strangled.

[1315] It's just that even with John Jones, you know, the heavyweight division has always been a shallow division due to the reason of people being just that.

[1316] Sure.

[1317] That size of humans, there's a very small percentage.

[1318] Including heavyweight boxing.

[1319] 100%.

[1320] Did you see that guy, Bacoli, knockout Jared Anderson?

[1321] Holy shit, that Bacoli guy's terrified.

[1322] Holy shit.

[1323] Holy shit.

[1324] I'd heard about him from sparring sessions.

[1325] That was the first fight I saw, yeah.

[1326] Yeah, me too.

[1327] I watched the highlight reel of him on YouTube, but I'm not the biggest.

[1328] Like, I don't know all the fighters that are fighting.

[1329] I know a bunch, but I know like maybe 30 % of boxing.

[1330] where I was compared to what I know about MMA.

[1331] So I had heard about this guy from an article saying that he, like, no one wants to spar him.

[1332] And then I was like, how come?

[1333] And then I watched him fight and I'm like, oh, well, that's why.

[1334] Jesus Christ, he's 285 pounds.

[1335] He's six foot six, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1336] Two hundred and eighty -five pounds and takes a fucking tremendous shot.

[1337] And a lot of people thought, this kid, Jared Anderson, he's only 24, and he's still very talented.

[1338] But look at this fucking - Jesus Christ.

[1339] Bro, that was round one.

[1340] Okay, he dropped him in round one But then he hit him with this sneaky ass uppercut A lot of his beat shorts on with pockets Watch this uppercut Look at this uppercut dude I mean my god This guy's like casually like beating the shit out of him This guy is so big And I heard like people are terrified To spar with this cat Like they don't want to fucking spar with this dude You bring this guy into spar you And he's just beating the fuck out of you And he could take an insane shot He took like a three piece there too Like it was nothing like it was nothing He just moves his head a little bit.

[1341] A little bit.

[1342] A little bit when he's getting hit.

[1343] He rolls it a little bit.

[1344] But the really good boxers, the guys who spar, look at that uppercut, that sneaky left uppercut, he keeps hitting him with.

[1345] Look at that one he hits him with.

[1346] Also, he wasn't exactly in and out of distance, you know what I'm saying?

[1347] Just stands right in front of you.

[1348] And he was a parallel legs, so he can hit with both arms.

[1349] He's much bigger, right?

[1350] He's 40 pounds bigger than this dude.

[1351] And he's fucking dangerous and shit, man. Look at that right hand, man. How beautiful is it, too.

[1352] But it's like skillful.

[1353] It's skillful fluid punching, but from a tank.

[1354] He's that panzer.

[1355] Yeah, skillful.

[1356] Yeah, exactly.

[1357] And he's a crazy knockout power, and he's a vicious body puncher, too, man. I watched some of his highlights of some of his other fights tonight.

[1358] I went down to Rabbit Hole.

[1359] Vicious body puncher, too.

[1360] It's terrifying.

[1361] He just walks towards you just beats your ass.

[1362] You can't hurt him.

[1363] Crazy.

[1364] It's like a member of Frances Nogano and who's that South African amazing?

[1365] no he's not south african you're thinking about jarzino rosenstrike rosentrike yeah he just stormed no it was literally not even a proper punch it was francis just walked towards him like this yeah just winging winging nuclear bombs and one of them caught him boom out cold and another one on the way down boom yeah well that's the kind of power that francis has it's just crazy it's crazy that's why i always love combat sports so much is that um it's that there's a lot of sports like tennis where a lot of money plays a big role in the in the in the sport you know it's it's a rich sport a lot of so a lot of money a lot of a lot of business a lot of politics enters into the sport soccer is like that basketball is like lots of politics but like combat sports is like a dude from yeah like a sand mine right just somewhere in the world yep to starts K -Oing people and within I mean Connor McGregor a guy who's a fucking a pipe not an engineer but he was some blue -collar job there's also people that if they do something first and then get into fighting like there's a lot of guys that are like power lifters or cross -fit guys NFL players I think a big one that's going to be that we'll see is people gymnastics because especially guys who do the rings and things Like, think about how much more armed dexterity and strength those guys have.

[1366] Imagine that guy getting your neck, you know?

[1367] Imagine a guy like that who's a black belt and jiu -jitsu with that kind of crazy strength to be able to hold yourself up in the air like that.

[1368] I did maybe three, four years of gymnastics before I started.

[1369] Did it help you?

[1370] Oh, absolutely.

[1371] That's why that's when I started wrestling, because wrestlers, Gregor -Romer wrestles, two gymnastics.

[1372] They all do flips and shit.

[1373] Right.

[1374] So that's when I started watching them practice.

[1375] And I was doing gymnastics.

[1376] And I remember when I started Jiu -Jitsu, I remember just even my get -ups from positions and my where I'm strong, the positions where I could be strong, were much more different than a guy who's like in the gym all the time, bench -boxing.

[1377] Right, right, right, right.

[1378] Yeah.

[1379] For sure, you have much better control your body.

[1380] One of the things you found out of Tenth Planet was with Richie and Gio Martinez was breakdancers.

[1381] Oh, absolutely.

[1382] That's gymnastics.

[1383] Totally.

[1384] That's gymnastics.

[1385] Totally.

[1386] When those guys started training, everybody was like, whoa.

[1387] and so Eddie started learning breakdancing moves He's like Eddie's the best He'll like, what do we got to do?

[1388] What do we got to do?

[1389] Show me how to break dance Because like those guys can do all that crazy shit Where they can spin around on one hand Like so they can do like a lotus in the air They can do a handstand Then they put their legs in the lotus position And they can stand on one hand And hop around on one hand bananas So that kind of control of your body And that kind of strength like directly Those guys really got very well they also trained really hard But they got very good at Jiu -Jitsu very quick Yeah.

[1390] My party trick used to be a backflip at an nightclub.

[1391] No slippery shoes for you, bro.

[1392] Just whip it out.

[1393] You can't have them slippery.

[1394] Oh, yeah, yeah.

[1395] When I see men wear those shoes, I'm like, do you hate traction?

[1396] Dude, with my...

[1397] When I buy jeans, when I go to stores, the clerks will always think I'm insane because I'll practice checking for a bit.

[1398] Just check a kick.

[1399] You know what you need?

[1400] You need a pair of origin jeans.

[1401] Oh, the stretchy ones?

[1402] The most light stretchy.

[1403] Combat ready.

[1404] basically pajamas.

[1405] They're basically pajamas.

[1406] They feel like sweatpants.

[1407] But do they look pretty, though?

[1408] Yeah, let me show you.

[1409] Go to the origin website.

[1410] All America made, everything, threads, everything.

[1411] Manufactured in America, everything, 100%.

[1412] Buttons, everything.

[1413] All made in America.

[1414] This is Jaco Willings Company.

[1415] I have a shirt sometimes, too, when I feel just a nice shirt, but it's tight.

[1416] I go, what if I need to pull guard?

[1417] They look like regular pants.

[1418] They look like, yeah.

[1419] If you need to pull guard in these, dude, you could fucking train in these.

[1420] I could literally kick the bag in these, and I'm not I'm not bullshitting.

[1421] You can throw headkicks in these.

[1422] They're like pajamas, but they look like jeans.

[1423] $129.

[1424] That's $110 outside of my budget.

[1425] I'll get your pair.

[1426] Just text me what your sizes.

[1427] I'll get your pair.

[1428] They're the shit.

[1429] There's a bunch of different companies that sell stuff like that.

[1430] I really like barbell jeans.

[1431] They do that.

[1432] They sell those.

[1433] I've heard of those.

[1434] Rev Town are my favorite.

[1435] RevTown is like the best cut.

[1436] Those are the ones.

[1437] wore in the special.

[1438] Those are RevTown jeans when I did the special.

[1439] They're super stretchy.

[1440] They're like, you can stretch out in them.

[1441] But by far, the most comfortable with the origin ones.

[1442] The origins, they nailed it.

[1443] Because it's the most loose.

[1444] Like, you don't, the other ones are like really free moving, but they're pants.

[1445] Chuck Doris Action Jeans.

[1446] Look at that picture!

[1447] 20 bucks, that's my budget.

[1448] When I talked about that in my special, people were like, what, Chuck Norris Action Jeans.

[1449] Like, they were a real thing when I was a kid.

[1450] They had a gusset in the crotch.

[1451] Look those slippery shoes.

[1452] Yeah, he's got the slippery shoes.

[1453] Chuck didn't give a fuck about traction.

[1454] Chuck wasn't worried about it.

[1455] He was trying to pivot on you, son.

[1456] I used to work as a bouncer in a club where there was an outfit for the security, too.

[1457] And dress shoes, dress pants, red, suspenders.

[1458] And like a fully, like a tux, what's the tuxedo shirt, like a color shirt, stiff.

[1459] And I remember the whole time being like, I'm going to rip these pants as soon as I even do it.

[1460] anything.

[1461] Not only that, but someone with a collar on, if you have a collar, if you have like a shirt with a collar, that is a weapon against you that's on your neck.

[1462] Like, why do you have that?

[1463] That seems so crazy.

[1464] If you're in a position where you think you might have to defend yourself, you should be wearing something that tears away from your body fairly easily around the upper body and the lower body, it better give you some movement.

[1465] Yeah.

[1466] You can't have any time.

[1467] And you better have some goddamn traction on the bottom of your souls.

[1468] You can't have some slippery as.

[1469] And the floor is a nightclub for it.

[1470] are all fucking slippery doodle.

[1471] All polished, slippery, and beer and shit spilled everywhere.

[1472] Every fight I would see would literally be the first guy throwing the bunch, whippy!

[1473] Yep.

[1474] And they're all on the ground.

[1475] And then people are kicking you in the head with boots on.

[1476] Yeah, fuck that.

[1477] Fuck that.

[1478] Fuck that.

[1479] Yeah.

[1480] Fuck getting in fights.

[1481] You know, that's the other thing.

[1482] People always say, if I could fight, I'd fucking be fucking everybody.

[1483] I'm like, no, you wouldn't.

[1484] You'd be dead.

[1485] I punched one person in my lifetime working there.

[1486] Just one person.

[1487] Most of the time, I would grab them, tried to get him in a hold they would calm down and one time it was so kept this was this big fucking guy and he opened with a front kick a well hip over fat dude like 40 years old but he threw a legit front kick yeah and immediately I knew I'm not gonna I'm not gonna just grab him that's a crazy thing to open with yeah I get a hold of that and I throw an overhand immediately break my thumb to this day Oh, no. Immediately.

[1488] Overhand straight to his temple, and I feel all my hand.

[1489] It's done.

[1490] It's done.

[1491] Did the guy get hurt?

[1492] No. Not a dent.

[1493] Not a dent.

[1494] You know how he left the nightclub?

[1495] How?

[1496] He dragged his wife by her hair.

[1497] Jesus.

[1498] Like a, and left the club into the night.

[1499] Maybe that's what she likes.

[1500] She likes for the good, go to bars, fuck a bunch of people up and then drag her away and let's go, baby.

[1501] And she just rides them.

[1502] And then we went.

[1503] Chokes him.

[1504] and then we went to court from that incident oh my god did he get sued or did you sue them I think it was the the nightclub suing him not suing but so whatever settlement or I mean it's still people got hurt so it's still some sort of an investigation or something but I had to testify in court and he had to do like a formal apology they do that here too right where you have to like stand up in court and do a formal and he had to me and the other bar I was the only security working that night, of course.

[1505] That's classic nightclub, 200 people only guy, 19 -year -old kid.

[1506] Cool.

[1507] Yeah, great.

[1508] With a bartender who's gay.

[1509] So we had to be, and he had to apologize, he goes, he goes, gentlemen, I'm sorry.

[1510] And you know how he showed up to court?

[1511] He was just all swollen up, not from that fight.

[1512] This was months later, so he's just living that lifestyle.

[1513] This is out there wrong.

[1514] Yeah, he was just showed up in court and was like, I'm sorry, gentlemen.

[1515] and just goes into the day...

[1516] Maybe the cops beat his ass.

[1517] Maybe, but he just came to go and I remember all of us being like, Jesus Christ, this Mongoloid.

[1518] Some dudes like to fight.

[1519] That's a very unfortunate thing that you enjoy.

[1520] See, that was another thing that when I went to all these self -defense class, I used to go to one wing churn, you know.

[1521] And there would be a master who said, you know, sparring is not real -life combat.

[1522] In real -life combat, I hurt you, I kill you, you know.

[1523] And I'm like, interesting.

[1524] But I would already go to Jiu -Jitsu although I've been in my head like, you know this instructor shows up he's got a belly button that has hair in it and it's a little floppy and I'm like, I reckon if I'm low kick you you're going to feel something and that was a big problem you know with self -defense courses and me and Prit, the Jiu -Jitsu guy we actually used to go to a couple of youth camps where there was troublesome youth who got into fights and we would do demonstrations where do you know in the 90s in Eastern Europe there was a rise in people getting stabbed because people would think that you take this course on you know you take a course every Sunday where they teach you somebody had to actually with an eye ha!

[1525] I remember my friend telling me like if you hadn't attacked me with a knife you're more dangerous to yourself than you are to me because he believed in this system and then all these retards would be in fucking Latvia or something and you're with your girl and some crack cat comes up at you and you're scarved up here you go baby and you see your fucking blood on your hands and in that and that's always what I learned from immediately I was like from those street from working as a bouncer is that yeah I'm comfortable in a sparring environment mouth guard on and we're friends even though you're trying to take my head off I'm in a comfortable environment where I know if I go out it's over you know if I could hurt if you hurt me with a middle kick but there's men out there who go to bars, they get gacked up and they just brawl.

[1526] Those are men who are comfortable in the chaos of a bar, you know.

[1527] Also, probably not making good decisions at any stage of their life.

[1528] See, that's what I'm saying, is that even though I might be a Jiu -Jitsu guy, this guy's going to bite my ear, he's going to, you know.

[1529] You don't want to fight people, period.

[1530] So that's when I really put together all those self -defense.

[1531] And me and Prit would go to youth camps and we would, he would like, he would like, he would like crankle up a plastic bottle and he would be like okay Ari do all the cool moves that we've that they all teach you know like hi ha behind the back grab the knife you know and then he would just you know I would like grab his wrist and then he would just pull the knife away and he's like at that point you have a deep cut in your arm you'd be fucked and he would look at those kids and go so you guys think that if you see your white flesh like a rose open up in your palm you think you're going to look at that and go okay fucking get the pose.

[1532] No, that's an instant panic attack, survival instinct, you know.

[1533] She has video recently.

[1534] I don't want to see if it's really bad.

[1535] Is that a knife fight?

[1536] I'm a very...

[1537] No, no. It's almost describing exactly what you're saying, like, this guy gets his leg cut really bad.

[1538] Oh, I did see that.

[1539] Don't show it to me. Don't show it to me. It's horrible.

[1540] It's horrible.

[1541] They're beating up this kid and the kid pulls a knife out and slices his thigh open, almost to the bone.

[1542] Like where it opens up like a flap.

[1543] Dude, I got to pee so bad.

[1544] Let's be right back.

[1545] We'll be right back.

[1546] And we're back.

[1547] Doesn't it feel so good?

[1548] There's a feeling that when you have to pee, that, like, you have, like, 30 % of your mind is available.

[1549] 70 % is like, don't piss your pants.

[1550] And you're talking about wrist locks.

[1551] I'm like, right?

[1552] Got to get it.

[1553] I can't take it.

[1554] Woo.

[1555] I had to pee, too, but I was just like, I'm going to piss my pants on this.

[1556] No, we did it.

[1557] We held it together.

[1558] We held it together.

[1559] Hey, thank you for being there Saturday night.

[1560] It was a lot of fun.

[1561] Oh.

[1562] And Friday night, too.

[1563] By the way, I have to say.

[1564] Dude, watching you do that live special is amazing to just watch you.

[1565] Dude, me and Ron White were in the green room when you were on stage, and we were like, thank God.

[1566] We're just chilling.

[1567] You know, in common...

[1568] Because it's scary.

[1569] It's scary.

[1570] Yeah.

[1571] But then again, and here's another point that I have to say that, do you know how crazy it is that you have, okay, one of the biggest podcast in the world, but you're an actual practitioner of an art form that, Only 10 years ago was not even stand -up comedy wasn't even the main form of comedy.

[1572] There was sketch comedy improv.

[1573] Movies.

[1574] Movies.

[1575] Stand -up was a subsidiary art form of comedy, like a small genre.

[1576] Right.

[1577] And that you with now your platform and your voice are a practitioner.

[1578] You could, this is how lucky we as comedians are to have a guy who's an action.

[1579] practicing comedian.

[1580] You could also be like a famous guy and just live in the shadows, show up at a club, every two months be a superstar.

[1581] Because you're talented and funny enough.

[1582] Do a good set.

[1583] You know, people go home.

[1584] That was great.

[1585] That was Joe Rogan because he saw, because people come out to see you, they'll have a good experience.

[1586] But you're a guy, you're riding bits.

[1587] You're like coming to the club, your own club, of course.

[1588] You're coming to the club.

[1589] and you're writing you're working on it you're fixing it and how lucky we are to have a guy who's an actual you could be like a piece of shit asshole you could absolutely yeah but it wouldn't work we would never been able to do what we're doing and what we're doing is really good for me too it's one of the reasons why like I think we're all benefiting greatly from that place we're all benefiting from the vibe of it nobody's benefited more than me I've benefited more than you yeah we're both benefiting dude it's all good dude it's all for everybody it's all we're all getting something out of it and it's we're all getting something in it together too that's the cool part about it we're all like you know asana always says that that's one of the things that door guys say when one of them gets a gig they say we up dude they're so supportive because i also did i auditioned for adam i auditioned for adam i got into the club the the the like proper way i didn't i wasn't some fucking made guy nobody knew who you were Yeah, and whenever I get some opportunity, like this right now, they're all, like, so cheering for me, you know?

[1590] It's very supportive, because they also know that that all the stuff that's happening to you can happen to them.

[1591] All the stuff that's happening right now to William Montgomery could happen to you.

[1592] Amazing.

[1593] All the stuff that's happening to David Lucas and Cam Patterson and all these guys, these Hans Kim.

[1594] Hans Kim selling out weekends everywhere.

[1595] He's killing it.

[1596] And he's doing great.

[1597] His act is tight.

[1598] He's got some funny shit, man. He's got some funny shit.

[1599] He works at it.

[1600] That kid has spreadsheets and shit.

[1601] He's going over his material on fucking Google Docs.

[1602] Also, dude, every fucking week there's another guy in that club that I'm like, who's this?

[1603] And then, dude, Tyler Fisher.

[1604] Yep.

[1605] Oh, my God.

[1606] He's hilarious.

[1607] Bro, that bit he does about being a cop for the petos.

[1608] Bro.

[1609] How funny is that bit?

[1610] I showed it to the door guys.

[1611] I filmed myself behind the curtain at Fat Man having to follow Tyler.

[1612] I filmed my own face and the applause that he's getting.

[1613] me being like this.

[1614] And I always riff with Tyler.

[1615] I go, hey Tyler, how about we keep five characters today?

[1616] He has a fool because he has characters, impressions.

[1617] He goes to the crowd.

[1618] He uses the stage.

[1619] Liners, jokes, anecdotes, callbacks.

[1620] Everything is tight.

[1621] Yeah, it's tight, and he's got so much energy, enthusiasm.

[1622] And that guy was having a hard time.

[1623] He was telling the podcast that, like, he got dropped by his agent because they couldn't handle any more white, straight men.

[1624] Like, do you don't think Do you guys, are you in the talent business?

[1625] You don't see how talented that fucking guy is?

[1626] But, you know, it's like this weird thing that we're all a part of.

[1627] Well, I was to just, I mean, think of my storyline.

[1628] Eighth of December, I'm in London, the UK.

[1629] I went to London a couple of years ago, had a great time because I was doing the open mic circuit.

[1630] But this time I went back as a headliner wanting to maybe move up in the industry.

[1631] Two months, nothing's happening, struggling.

[1632] Just because I went to New York, same thing.

[1633] It was just because I didn't really have a connection.

[1634] Nobody really knew me. And I'm also not a guy who's great at showing up at the park.

[1635] I don't do coke.

[1636] I hang, but I only talk bits.

[1637] And I would go to like, let's say a New York, like a comedy seller.

[1638] and there's like 20 guys with backpacks and tripods all waiting to talk to the manager, you know.

[1639] And when I see that, I always feel like, I don't want to be another asshole.

[1640] You know, hello, I'm the guy, you know.

[1641] So I just felt like on every audition I had, when you audition in London, that's also, good, shout out to Adam Igett.

[1642] Do you know how crazy that is that he watches Sunday, Monday?

[1643] He watches everybody.

[1644] Yeah.

[1645] You can be on the street.

[1646] a guy and you get to be in front of the probably the most important talent scout and he watches them and he gives you and if you do a good job he'll give you a spot that's when he's really good at it he's he's really good at he really understands comedy he he understands comedy he gets it he he sees voices he wants uh he was he was he was on a show with norm mcdonald like they were co -hosts insane his best friend yeah yeah he adam's awesome and he was one of the first He was the first guy that I got when I was deciding to do this.

[1647] He was number one.

[1648] So I remember when Sam, like, and then, yeah, so 8th of December, I fly over to Austin on 9th of December.

[1649] I have nothing's going on.

[1650] Sam, Talent is in town just by accident in Austin.

[1651] And he came to Estonia to visit me. We only talked online before that.

[1652] And he goes, yeah, sure, I'll get you a spot.

[1653] But I didn't want to bother him, so I'm still signing up outside.

[1654] And then Sam goes, where are you?

[1655] Adam's looking for you.

[1656] And I go, oh, shit, I go to the security.

[1657] You know, the Avengers are out there.

[1658] I got to be like, hey, guys.

[1659] I go like, hey guys.

[1660] And they're all here in my accent.

[1661] They're like, what the fuck.

[1662] Yeah, you got to get somebody.

[1663] Sam comes out.

[1664] I do my set.

[1665] And even before my set, I see Adam Eaget.

[1666] And I'm like, oh, that's the Adam Eaget.

[1667] Because I read about him in, no, Brody, Stephen, Brody Stevens in his special, always says Adam Eaget, like seven times.

[1668] So I remember that name.

[1669] Atomigot.

[1670] Atomigit.

[1671] Trying to hold me down.

[1672] this is my shot and he would and he's back there and I'm like oh shit he actually dude I'm 12 years into this and to see a talent manager or scout or whatever to actually watch your set is actually rare well the story with me and Adam is Adam was he used to work at the Tempe improv and that's why I met him and he was always a great guy and then he came over to L .A. and started working at the comedy store when I had left.

[1673] So I had left after the Carlos Mincea thing, I was gone for seven years.

[1674] So I was doing the improv.

[1675] I was doing the ice house.

[1676] I was doing other clubs.

[1677] And so then he came and met me. I think it was like 2014.

[1678] Yeah, 2014.

[1679] So seven years after 2007 now.

[1680] And I was like, come on.

[1681] I'm the talent coordinator now.

[1682] They got rid of the other guy.

[1683] And I was like, oh, I don't know, man. I don't know if I want to go back.

[1684] It's just like, I just felt so fucked.

[1685] over it.

[1686] The whole thing was so gross.

[1687] It was like, fuck that place.

[1688] But then Ari was doing a special there.

[1689] So I -Arts your fear?

[1690] Yeah, I knew I had to be there.

[1691] So I had to go back.

[1692] So I went back Monday night before Ari or whatever night, um, Roast Battle was at.

[1693] And I sat in the audience at Roast Battle.

[1694] It was insane.

[1695] It was insane.

[1696] Um, Jeff Ross said this was like my first time of the club in seven years and like it was, that was a cool feeling, like to be like, I felt comfortable there again.

[1697] And then, um, um, I've watched Ari special.

[1698] I have to be there for Ari.

[1699] I'm like, this is, this is not just Ari's first big special on Comedy Central, but it's also Ari, my friend, who I knew who was a doorman.

[1700] Okay, when I was on, I guess I was on either news radio or Fear Factor.

[1701] I don't know what TV show was on at the time I met Ari.

[1702] It might have been Fear Factor.

[1703] But, like, all of a sudden, I'm hanging out with this kid, this young kid just starting out, and then we become friends, and he goes on the road with me, and we, work together we do podcast together and then all of a sudden all these years later he's got his own fucking comedy central special and he's got his own comedy central tv show which is one of the reasons why they gave me a special and he's filming it in the fucking ohr i'm like i have to be there i had to be there and so then i came back and said i was there all the time then i just started going like every day i was there all the time well yeah we heard about it on the podcast all the time i just went back full on and then adam and i started talking and one of the things we started to talking, I was like, what do you want, do you want to do?

[1704] He felt, you know, like a little bit underpaid and there's a lot.

[1705] I go, what do you want to do?

[1706] Like, what would, like, what would be the ideal way to open up a club?

[1707] We would start talking about what to do.

[1708] We would start talking about what is, what is really important.

[1709] What's really important is, like, a talent coordinator is, a lot of times it's just the manager picking headliners to come in for the weekend.

[1710] Or some insane girlfriend of the owner.

[1711] Yeah, so this is the difference.

[1712] The difference is I think in, I think there's probably different kinds of classifications for what kind of clubs they are.

[1713] Our club is a development club.

[1714] Absolutely.

[1715] It's not just a club for great headliners like when Colin Quinn is here or Dice is here.

[1716] It's a club for developing.

[1717] So we said, okay, how many nights a week should we have open mic night?

[1718] And we said, two.

[1719] Let's do Sunday and Monday.

[1720] So two nights full open mic night.

[1721] And then it was Adam's idea to have door people audition with their act.

[1722] And I was like, you know what?

[1723] door guys fucked off so much at the comedy store they were so bad at doing certain things they were scamming money and getting people to bribe them which we've had we've had that too but that's normal right you know you got to yeah these are comedians dude yeah wild people but the door people at the mothership are so much better than any of the door people at the comedy store and I think part of it is because there is this ethic there that we're all the same thing.

[1724] We're all together.

[1725] We're all the same.

[1726] We're all hang out together at Mincy's Bar.

[1727] We're all the exact same thing.

[1728] Just some of us have been doing it 30 years.

[1729] Some of us have been doing it 12 years.

[1730] Some of us been doing it five years.

[1731] Some of us moved here because they did a few open mic nights is the only thing they ever loved in their life.

[1732] It's the only thing they ever wanted to do in their life.

[1733] They're like, God damn it, I want to be in Austin.

[1734] And then they moved there and they got a job there.

[1735] And their act is what gets them the job.

[1736] And if you could string together a few minutes and you You could show that you could get those sparks going and make a little campfire.

[1737] Okay, let's see how much better you get at making campfires.

[1738] Let's see.

[1739] Let's see what you can do.

[1740] And that's the difference between that club and everywhere else.

[1741] And it all goes all the way up to the very top, whether it's Shane or Tony or anybody who's working on their act and working on new stuff.

[1742] You see them.

[1743] You see Brian Simpson constantly.

[1744] Ron White, sharper than he's ever been.

[1745] Assassin.

[1746] He's a thousand years old.

[1747] Dude, Ron White was born before there was feet.

[1748] People still had fins.

[1749] He's an animal.

[1750] He's better than he's ever been before.

[1751] Yeah, we were driving to your special in San Antonio.

[1752] He picked me up from my house, and I'm like, I'm in the car with Ron White.

[1753] And he's just talking about DMT doing 90 miles an hour all the way sideways.

[1754] She's like, Ari, there's another world out there.

[1755] I'm like, we're doing 90 in this one, though.

[1756] Ron's in the simulation, for sure.

[1757] But also, like I was saying about you, he also, you might think that this guy will come to the club and be a superstar.

[1758] No, he comes in and works on his act, talks about bits.

[1759] Yeah, we hang out.

[1760] Having a panic attack just like I am.

[1761] And he loves when a bit bombs, he comes back, well, that fucking didn't work at all.

[1762] At all.

[1763] And he's like, try to explain to us by this bit bombed.

[1764] He comes to the group, he goes, that fucking sucked.

[1765] Yeah, yeah, they weren't my favorite.

[1766] He was, he's two things.

[1767] One, he's the reason why I moved here because he was the first guy.

[1768] He was here before the pandemic.

[1769] But he's from Texas.

[1770] Yes.

[1771] So he moved here.

[1772] Like, I was like, where are you been?

[1773] Because I knew he still had his house in Beverly Hills.

[1774] I'm going to get rid of my house in Beverly Hills.

[1775] I'm going to live down here in Texas.

[1776] And so he, he said it was center of the country.

[1777] You could travel anywhere.

[1778] And I was like, damn, maybe.

[1779] But I'm like, I can't live there.

[1780] Because I was always wanting to get the fuck out of L .A., but I can't leave the store.

[1781] But once they shut the store down, I was like, Oh, all right.

[1782] What the fuck am I here for?

[1783] The crime?

[1784] Like, what am I here for?

[1785] I'm not here for the store.

[1786] And you're not doing movies?

[1787] Yeah, I don't want my youngest kids to grow up in this place.

[1788] It seems like it's getting worse.

[1789] And I also felt like there's better places to be.

[1790] And so when we all came out here together, it's like we all, especially like when we first started talking about the developing of the club, it was the whole idea.

[1791] It was like, let's do it our way.

[1792] Let's do it the right way.

[1793] As opposed to doing it as a business, let's do it as like, what are you trying to do?

[1794] You're just trying to make the best club possible.

[1795] Okay, well, then do that.

[1796] And then the business stuff, put that aside.

[1797] You got to stop, don't think about maximizing profits because there's only one shareholder.

[1798] So let's just do it the right way.

[1799] And the right way is the comedians get most of the money.

[1800] The right way is you bring the best people in.

[1801] The right way is you develop talent.

[1802] The right way is you have a show like Kill Tony that sets this tone for the entire car.

[1803] comedy universe, it sets the tone.

[1804] And then guys like you can get on that stage, crack some fucking great bits.

[1805] Yeah.

[1806] And then bam.

[1807] It's crazy.

[1808] You're off to the races.

[1809] And I kind of feel like, because I'm a big book, I've read everything about the comedy story, everything about the history of the industry, late night wars, David Letterman moving, Johnny Carson moving from New York to the Burbank.

[1810] Okay.

[1811] I know everything.

[1812] And I kind of feel like I'm living the gold rush that was in the 80s and 90s in comedy store.

[1813] I kind of feel like I'm living that right now.

[1814] This one's crazier.

[1815] Well, yeah.

[1816] This one's crazier because this one people are doing arenas.

[1817] I mean, we're doing Kill Tony this weekend in Madison Square Garden.

[1818] There's two nights.

[1819] Two nights in New York City.

[1820] Sold out Madison Square Garden.

[1821] This is Tony's and Red Band's coming out party.

[1822] This is like, this is the big deal.

[1823] This is the big deal.

[1824] They sold this out quick.

[1825] Quick.

[1826] You know, and it's a beautiful thing to see.

[1827] It's a beautiful thing to see everybody flourishing.

[1828] And this idea that we had actually work It's actually coming to fruition You know Amazing, yeah It's crazy, yeah And to have you guys To have you, Tony and Ron There when I was filming that thing Also So the green room Was just like regular green room Regular ass green room Right?

[1829] So we're used to hanging out Having fun laughing Being fun And just like being silly together So we're all being silly So I was just super loose But then also There was that moment where Me and you were in your green room and both of us were in our notebooks for about 20 minutes just in silence and remember after thinking like holy shit see this is what it's all about yeah we're just writing bits and just you got to work at it man and sometimes we don't you know sometimes we don't and one of the things that really made me think a lot about this the live thing it's like first of all i said no when my manager called me said do a live special i thought fuck that i don't do that and then i was i was i was got off the phone with her.

[1830] I was driving.

[1831] And I was like, why did I say no?

[1832] Like, why is such a pussy?

[1833] Oh, because you're scared.

[1834] You're scared of doing it live.

[1835] And I was like, oh, why are you scared to doing it live?

[1836] Like, what is it about?

[1837] Like, you do everything live.

[1838] Like, you do UFC live.

[1839] Podcasts are essentially, you know, they're recorded, but you're just freewheeling, right?

[1840] So why can't you do that live?

[1841] Like, just prepare better.

[1842] Just prepare more.

[1843] So I was preparing way more.

[1844] Oh, yeah.

[1845] Watching you develop that hour was insane.

[1846] You were working.

[1847] Dude, also, I've never seen you off.

[1848] I've seen you in the green room, maybe in a different mood than the other night.

[1849] Dude, when you go on stage, it's Rock City every fucking night.

[1850] It's crazy to watch.

[1851] Well, I've just been preparing this set for quite a while.

[1852] You know, I thought I was going to do a special in August of 2020.

[1853] That was the plan, because I had done a 2018.

[1854] So I did 2016, it was triggered, and then my next Netflix special was 2018.

[1855] That was strange times, and I was going to do one in 2020 and call it Sacred Clown.

[1856] and it was based on the Lakota Hayoka was the person in the tribe that made fun of everything because if you couldn't make fun of anything it was bullshit they had like a spiritual person in their tribe their goal was to make fun of everything it was a sacred clown and so I was like that's perfect because that's what it is you're just talking shit and making fun of things and you should be able to do that about everything and everything you can't make fun of is most likely bullshit well that's your comedy club dude I love that you called your comedy rooms after the two nuclear bombs But that already shows There's no rules There's no rules It's over And I was worried about that at first I was like God, this is so disrespectful But that's perfect That's letting you know There are no rules Do you know one of the reasons why I decided To definitely call it that?

[1857] Why?

[1858] Because I told it to Louis CK And he went Ah I go that's it It asks me that And also it's part of UFO folklore One of the main reasons Why I wanted to have them Because I knew I had two rooms And I knew there was two bombs And it was after those two nuclear bombs were dropped that they started.

[1859] Kenneth Arnold had his sightings.

[1860] Roswell, New Mexico had that big siding.

[1861] All the big events of UFO folklore happen after the bomb.

[1862] And the idea is that these interdimensional beings, they go, okay, these fucking crazy territorial apes have now developed nuclear bombs.

[1863] This could be very dangerous.

[1864] Because if these idiots arm themselves, as we have right now, to the point where they can blow up the whole world like many, many times over, they might do it, let's like, let's make sure everything's cool.

[1865] And so that's when all the UFO started.

[1866] So for the comedy mothership, with this UFO -based thing, we kind of had to have those as the name because that's what, that's what sends out the signal.

[1867] Yeah.

[1868] Those bombs, fat man and little boy, those bombs are this, that's what, if you believe, and I love to believe, I don't 100 % believe, but I kind of love to believe, I love to at least talk about it.

[1869] If you believe that we were visited multiple times by alien life, and a lot of it happened after 1947, makes sense.

[1870] Well, yeah, if the universe is infinite and there's a higher species out there, you would look at Earth and you'd be interested.

[1871] 100%.

[1872] And then who knows what happened in Roswell was, so the bombs were 45, Roswell was 47.

[1873] Who knows what really happened at Roswell?

[1874] But they do know that whatever they did, they took that wreckage and they flew it in two separate jets to write Patterson Air Force Base because they didn't, if one of the jets went down, wanted to make sure they still had the wreckage.

[1875] They put it in two different sheds.

[1876] That's how important this shit was, whatever the fuck it was.

[1877] Bob.

[1878] Bob.

[1879] Bob.

[1880] Who had that crazy story.

[1881] I just remember one story where he told that there were like multiple doors open and for an like, it was an act because they were separated or something where he was working on.

[1882] And by accident he like saw the spaceship like through the doors.

[1883] And I remember being like, holy shit.

[1884] Well, he saw, when he went in to see it for the first time, it had an American flag sticker on it.

[1885] And his first inclination was, oh.

[1886] Oh, this is why people keep seeing these things.

[1887] These are ours.

[1888] But then the way it's described...

[1889] Now, who knows if it's true?

[1890] Yeah, who knows?

[1891] But I love to believe it is.

[1892] And the way he describes it is, like, they essentially brought him in and said, tell me what this is.

[1893] Figure this out.

[1894] How does this work?

[1895] What is it?

[1896] And they really never did.

[1897] They kind of got a working understanding of it, but it based on some element that was only theoretical at the time, now been proven by one of the particle colliders.

[1898] They created this particle.

[1899] particle collider right yeah the one in switzerland yeah that's where it is right that's the creating black holes yeah that's one they worried about i was gonna make a black hole that shoot sure i remember i did like mushrooms for the first time and started reading about it i'm like great they're fucking those super nerds are going to kill us all but they but they did discover that this element that uh bob lazar theorized exists but then what i've heard is like they already knew that that was going to be an element so him saying that there's a lot of of things like the Higgs boson, there's a lot of things that they knew existed, but they needed to get proof of it through the particle colliders.

[1900] And so a lot of people aren't that impressed with that, but he said they had a stable isotope.

[1901] They had a stable version of this element, and this is what powered this generator.

[1902] And this stable version of this element would sit inside of this container, and it would be bombarded with radiation, and it would somehow or another manipulate gravity.

[1903] it's the wildest story ever the most fun story ever yeah but um he essentially said they had they were trying for years to try to figure out how to reproduce it and they they they couldn't figure out how it worked they did a bunch of different things one guy died apparently trying to cut into it holy shit yeah that was a guy before him apparently yeah then and then there was the the wackies thing of alls that we talked about this yesterday that they said that his they had a big thing on religion and one of the things that they said that they look at us as containers Yeah, and it's like that religion was here So that we don't damage what's inside the container The religion was put here To give people rules and regulations So they could fall so they don't destroy their souls So like they're just harvesting our souls Yeah And making sure our souls don't go robin Because we'll be just sucking and fucking and sucking Right, no imagine that If that's what happens That's how they trick you into downloading Your brain into a computer That's it, that's the end result They're just trying to get that soul And then you are just trapped And that's what hell really is just stuck on a hard drive with nothing there.

[1904] Imagine living your whole life being paralyzed, but you don't need food or water, but you're lying on the floor of an empty office building.

[1905] That's you inside a computer forever.

[1906] In the void.

[1907] And they don't download anybody else under your hard drive either.

[1908] Because if they have other people on that hard drive, it'll ruin the hard drive.

[1909] We can't have your code and my code mixing together.

[1910] Oh, come on here.

[1911] Yeah, we're in a weird time, my brother.

[1912] We're in a weird time because The reason why comedy As you were saying earlier Is like This kind of comedy It's like the most prevalent comedy Because the only one you could actually be free and do You can't make Tropic Thunder anymore You can't make You know There's a lot There'll be a movie It's a pendulum you know Culture is always a pendulum There'll be some dude They'll be the new Andrew Dice Clay They'll be the new Tropic Thunder They'll be the new Super Bad I hope so Yeah 100 % Because that's some So.

[1913] Because as soon as, as soon as something is like 51 % of a popular opinion, the 49 % becomes cool.

[1914] The rebellion comes cool.

[1915] Yeah, but it won't even be popular opinion.

[1916] The popular opinion is almost 100 % that they would want tropics on.

[1917] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1918] That's true.

[1919] You know, the real popular opinion amongst people who go to see those films.

[1920] Let me say it that way.

[1921] Because popular opinion amongst people who don't go see super bad, what difference does it make?

[1922] But the people that do go see those movies and do enjoy those movies would go to see one right now most of them but there's always but but but yeah but and that's why i always be there's so much fun in rebellion and breaking the rules and the more i always thought i think the stronger a line is the more power you have of crossing it you know right right right also i just don't think the line is real i think the line is a small very vocal minority of people and the majority of people know what jokes are yeah but You can't finance these things anymore.

[1923] But then again, if it's all no rules and no, like, if you don't get a reaction, then it doesn't have any power, you know.

[1924] It's like when Tony, we were just talking in the green room, when Tony Hinchcliffe said fagget on Netflix at the Tom Brady roast.

[1925] Right.

[1926] That's like, if you're a culture nerd, that's like a cultural moment.

[1927] Right.

[1928] We call him a Confederate fag.

[1929] Yeah.

[1930] Because he's saying something that unanimously five years ago was a valid.

[1931] line yeah but now the lines moved it doesn't even move but people dance around the line and it gives it power because if you create a line you're going to create people who are going to dance around it give them and that's yeah but no they don't we didn't agree to the line that's why but the thing is like that line only existed in corporate controlled media and existed in like virtue signaling internet people but that's the power of the release right you know but that line didn't exist amongst friends oh that's why off the record talk yeah real shit That line never existed.

[1932] Retard was on the table.

[1933] Oh, Richard has never left the table.

[1934] Never left the table, especially in quiet company when you're alone.

[1935] Yeah, what's going on with your brother?

[1936] Dude, he's fucking retarded.

[1937] I can't, I can't talk to him.

[1938] He doesn't listen.

[1939] That's normal talk.

[1940] Normal talk.

[1941] We know what that means.

[1942] And the idea that we're supposed to back off these words because a select minority of very vocal people who are like super sensitive and probably medicated, like, no, no, don't listen.

[1943] Like, no. No. Don't listen.

[1944] Like, no. Don't watch that movie.

[1945] No, don't go to see that stand -up.

[1946] You don't have to like everything.

[1947] There's a lot I don't like that other people love.

[1948] And guess what?

[1949] I'm fine with that.

[1950] I like it.

[1951] I like the fact there's a variety of different human beings.

[1952] It's a fun part of being a human.

[1953] Yeah.

[1954] It's fun.

[1955] Yeah.

[1956] And, you know, that's the beauty of true diversity.

[1957] You know, like one of the things that's great about the club is the lineup is actually very diverse, but not because we wanted it to be.

[1958] be diverse.

[1959] We wanted people who are really good.

[1960] Killers.

[1961] And they come in all fucking sizes and shapes.

[1962] Wire cameraman.

[1963] Yeah, fat gay guys, small fucking porn addicts.

[1964] They're all over the place.

[1965] They're all over the place.

[1966] Everybody's different.

[1967] And that's good.

[1968] That's good for everybody.

[1969] And it's like we speak this language.

[1970] We're here for this art form.

[1971] Everything else is fine.

[1972] Like you just be a nice person.

[1973] Be nice to us.

[1974] We're nice to us.

[1975] We're nice to.

[1976] you get nice to each other we're all going to grow from this experience we're all going to be better people because of this we're all going to be better members of a community we're creating a community also there are nights at the little boy because of the yonder banks and stuff i'll say some stuff yeah you get a little wild that i know is not leaving this room right and the release you see in the people where they're laughing so hard there's like a 40 year old guy with his wife and he's like i can't believe this european fuck He's saying this this is not okay, but that's so fun.

[1977] Right, but then there's a lot of people that are laughing really hard.

[1978] No, no, no, that's why he, but he's also laughing because it's not okay.

[1979] But it is okay.

[1980] It is okay.

[1981] It is okay here.

[1982] It should be okay everywhere.

[1983] It's okay in private company, right?

[1984] Oh, absolutely.

[1985] Off the record talk.

[1986] Off the record talk.

[1987] Yeah.

[1988] It should be okay.

[1989] And this art form requires that you do that.

[1990] It does.

[1991] It doesn't require you have to do it.

[1992] There's guys like, you know, Brian Regan, who are brilliant.

[1993] Jim Gaffigan, brilliant.

[1994] Brilliant.

[1995] Gaffigan's brilliant.

[1996] You never have to worry about him offending you.

[1997] He never have to worry about him offending you, right?

[1998] His stuff is squeaking clean.

[1999] Perfect example.

[2000] Nate's genius.

[2001] Genius, brilliant.

[2002] You can talk about table.

[2003] Squeaky clean.

[2004] Yeah.

[2005] Those guys have always existed and those guys are us too.

[2006] It's fine.

[2007] It's like no one dislikes Sebastian.

[2008] You know, everyone loves Sebastian.

[2009] He was just at the club last night.

[2010] Yeah, I brought him up.

[2011] Amazing.

[2012] He's the best.

[2013] He's the nicest guy too.

[2014] I love him.

[2015] He talks about his mole infestation.

[2016] And how he wants to cook.

[2017] This is like cook a steak.

[2018] You ever get a guy?

[2019] He's awesome.

[2020] He's obviously just got a message for one of my friends.

[2021] They said they saw him at the club last night and he was brilliant.

[2022] But like the point is like everybody's different.

[2023] That's great.

[2024] That's great.

[2025] Boy, girl, gay, straight.

[2026] Everybody.

[2027] There's a bunch.

[2028] All you have to do is be good.

[2029] That's it.

[2030] And you don't get any browning points for your group if you're not good.

[2031] Okay?

[2032] Okay.

[2033] If you want to come on just because you're a this or that, guess what?

[2034] There's no room for that.

[2035] You have to be good.

[2036] All the festivals, comedy festival.

[2037] I was a big festival circle because that was where you could get up back in the day.

[2038] Australia, Edinburgh, JFL.

[2039] They're falling apart because they didn't listen to the ripples of laughter.

[2040] Well, they're doing a different thing.

[2041] Here's the problem.

[2042] The people that are doing the festival themselves are not usually like working stand -up comedians.

[2043] Yeah.

[2044] So they're people that exist in the ecosystem that aren't creating the thing, right?

[2045] So they know what they like.

[2046] They might know what they, and they might also apply their own personal politics to their decisions about what kind of comedy they want to see.

[2047] It's also, is it their personal politics or is it the politics that they think people are going to gravitate to?

[2048] You know?

[2049] I think it's both because I think primarily in show business people are indoctrinated into the cult of leftism.

[2050] It's almost universal in show business, except for a lot of musicians to kind of keep it undercover.

[2051] But a lot of actors have to keep it undercover, too.

[2052] Like conservative actors just keep their mouth shut, like Chris Cratt type dudes.

[2053] They get in trouble every time they talk about Jesus.

[2054] John Cena talking in Chinese.

[2055] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[2056] Well, that was different.

[2057] That was a little bit of an apology.

[2058] I didn't do that a bit in my act.

[2059] But the whole thing about it is that, you know, you've got to let people express themselves.

[2060] however they are however whatever whatever what are you you know Tyler Fisher is very different than David Lucas right David Luke is very different than Ron White everyone has to be able to express themselves in whatever form they find themselves in going through this life the best possible way they can that's what we're sad now to do but that's like that jazz thing that I was talking about is the resonation of the feelings of the story that you're expressing that people gravitate to and when you start putting a bullshit agenda out there exactly I see it a hundred I see it and that the the anti -bullshit is that green room because the green room was so fun that you go on stage from there with those good vibes like I oftentimes I'm like sad that I have to shut my phone off you know I'm like sad I got to go guys and I'm like I'm sad that I have to leave our fun club house sometimes I'm sad that I have to go on stage I know I'm sorry that I have to go on stage I'm not really but I want to continue the conversation I know I'm going to have a great time on stage I'm looking forward to it but I want to continue the conversation you know and then having you you guys in the green room with me when I filmed the special was huge man it was huge because it really was like I always feel this like I went camping with Brian Callan once we went to we went on a deer hunt and I was like this is going to be crazy we're going to go to Montana it's going to be freezing it's going to be five degrees outside we're going to be sleeping on the frozen ground we're going to go hunt some mule deer in the mountains you want to do it he's like fuck yeah so we did it but I was like if you and I are together it'll be fun to matter where we are like Brian and I could be hanging out in some shitty motel in the middle of us Saskatchewan just laughing our asses off because we're friends and we've been friends forever and so we can have fun together so no matter how chaotic the situation is when you have friends with you it changes what the situation is so even though that was a live show in front of who knows how many fucking people watching live on Netflix I was hanging out with you guys it was normal normal show so I just kept myself a normal show mind and just went on stage it was very cool to learn like watch you from the side and be like, yeah, you're just doing another set.

[2061] And also you're, you were so well prepared that you were like the perfect guy to do that life special, you know.

[2062] You've got to prepare in a different way.

[2063] It's like, there's the thing about archery, okay?

[2064] Like if you, say if you're proficient at 50 yards, you can hit a bullseye on a regular basis at 50 yards.

[2065] You really should be hunting at about 25 yards.

[2066] Because at 25 yards, you're shaking, you've got adrenaline there's anxiety maybe this is a new thing you know there's a wild hog moving 50 yards away from you and you're drawn on you're like oh my god is this really happening like you probably shouldn't be shooting at 50 yards if you want to shoot at 50 yards you should be really proficient at 100 yards and you should have a bunch of shots already under your belt so that you are accustomed to this experience so with comedy I was like okay I know I've done a bunch of live shows but I can't just go up on stage like this is a regular live show.

[2067] Like I've done a bunch of shows in front of a live audience.

[2068] This is going to be a way different pressure.

[2069] And if I don't agree to that in my mind, and if I don't address that in my mind, and over -preparation.

[2070] You let that tiny window of doubt open.

[2071] And the little demon of doubt will sneak in and steal your confidence and fuck with your head and give you anxiety and make you start thinking about, what if you bomb?

[2072] What if you forget the jokes?

[2073] What if you forget what place you're at?

[2074] What if you forget the line?

[2075] What if you forget the punchline?

[2076] What about that new punchline?

[2077] You're going to do it.

[2078] You could mind fuck yourself.

[2079] Or you could just super over -prepared.

[2080] So I super over -prepared.

[2081] I listened to recordings.

[2082] I watched videos.

[2083] I wrote for like, I prepared for like five hours the day of the show.

[2084] I never left my computer.

[2085] That's how I always feel about writing and writing during the day about comedies.

[2086] People always go like, oh, you just write an act.

[2087] And I go, to be honest.

[2088] 99 % of the shit I write the end up actually working on stage.

[2089] Most bits still click on stage, but I can't, I have to give an energy out to the universe that, listen, I'm preparing for this.

[2090] Just so I know that I'm ready, you know, when I go on stage.

[2091] And even though you can't exactly say that I'm writing the perfect set and it's going to go as I wrote it, but the energy that I put out in the universe that I'm preparing.

[2092] Yeah, it's also, it's not, that's not the process.

[2093] The process is you write it exactly as you're going to say it because you really need to say it in front of an audience to know how to say it.

[2094] Exactly.

[2095] And you need to say, hear it for yourself too.

[2096] And you need to actually, the whole thing is it's a framework for you being in the moment talking about that thing, right?

[2097] And if you can, like, if you can set that framework up well on a piece of paper or on a computer screen, that's great.

[2098] But then you review it and then you keep tweaking it and you keep fucking with it.

[2099] But also if I don't write, I just feel.

[2100] feel like I'm, why am I not working hard at this?

[2101] And that gives me anxiety of being like, because I remember the first lesson in martial arts that I had.

[2102] The first lesson in my life, we have compulsory military service in Estonia, which I didn't do.

[2103] I regret it.

[2104] The only reason I didn't do it is I did sports and guys who went to do the military service.

[2105] They ate shit food, got back, injuries, came back, and they lost a year in their athletic life.

[2106] And a year, as you know, in an athletic version, that's huge.

[2107] So I didn't do that.

[2108] I regretted that.

[2109] But the first lesson I got through martial arts was that why I wasn't successful in mixed martial arts wasn't because I'm physically not, I wasn't talented.

[2110] But the reason I wasn't successful was because I always thought about I wanted the accolades.

[2111] I wanted to be the cool guy who gets the head kick, kisses the girl.

[2112] Right.

[2113] And it's cool.

[2114] You didn't want to deliver.

[2115] I didn't want to.

[2116] During, like, Jiu -Jitsu classes, when my, when Brit is talking about arm bar defense, I'd be daydreaming about what song am I going to come out to.

[2117] That's hilarious.

[2118] You're a showman.

[2119] And I would go, it's just boring, dude.

[2120] I want to go spar.

[2121] So I would go to Thai boxing clubs and spar and have fun with my friends.

[2122] I would build a fake ring in our gym, and we would do all the cool stuff that we wanted to do.

[2123] And then I remember maybe a year later, There was this, there was a, there's a nerdy guy who started the same year as me. Nerdy, not physically, not gifted at all.

[2124] A year later, I spar with him and he, this fucking nerd is fucking me up with a jab.

[2125] But that's because he gave, he had mat time.

[2126] We always call, in resting this expression called mat time.

[2127] Sure.

[2128] Oh, you can be amazing and talented and a fucking beast.

[2129] But if I do 400 hours and you do 22, No matter at the end of the day, I'm going to get you because I have mad time.

[2130] Especially with Jiu -Jitsu.

[2131] Especially.

[2132] But it's also how much energy are you putting towards a thing?

[2133] Exactly.

[2134] That's really what it is.

[2135] And it wasn't that.

[2136] And that's what I learned about the whole thing.

[2137] I was like, yeah, he was putting energy into the universe and committing to something.

[2138] Yeah.

[2139] And putting that out there.

[2140] And even though...

[2141] It's also you're looking for a result and he's involved in the process.

[2142] you have to trust the process that's the process of writing exactly and this is one thing I tell comics all the time they always say I write on stage I'm like bro I do too I do too we all do especially when you do bottom of the barrel you always write on stage you're fucking around I fuck around all the time it's fun to fuck around all the time it's fun to fuck around most of my bits come like this sometimes they do but also you can write yeah it doesn't hurt you to write it doesn't hurt you no and me preparing for this live special maybe really concentrate on like tightening up segways I didn't want anything to be clunky.

[2143] I wanted to really make sure that I had it fucking polished down.

[2144] Jerry Seinfeld had a great quote where he goes like that a comedian told him, yeah, I write on stage.

[2145] He said, I'll see you in 20 years.

[2146] Look, you can write on stage.

[2147] There was a great article that was out.

[2148] It was about Jerry Seinfeld and Chris Rock.

[2149] I think it was in Fortune magazine.

[2150] See if you could find it.

[2151] But it was, essentially they were saying Chris Rock said this best.

[2152] The guy was going, you know, what do you do during the day.

[2153] He goes, I don't do nothing, but I do open mics every night.

[2154] And he said, during the day is where you make your money.

[2155] At night is when you collect it.

[2156] Wow.

[2157] Look at that.

[2158] You collect your money at night, but you make it during the day.

[2159] So true.

[2160] Because the performance is just a byproduct.

[2161] It's a great article.

[2162] And it's the perfect mindset, especially coming from a guy like Chris, who's, you know, put out bigger and blacker.

[2163] And was the other one that was like, is two great ones when he first come.

[2164] And then, fuck.

[2165] What was the other one?

[2166] Bring the pain.

[2167] Bring the pain.

[2168] Those two are some of the greatest comedy specials in the history of the world.

[2169] In the history.

[2170] And that guy, man, like, listen to him.

[2171] Whatever the fuck he asked.

[2172] He used to come to the comedy store, and he had a very unique strategy.

[2173] He would come to the comedy store with premises and, like, ideas that he had, but he did not have them worked out.

[2174] And he would just eat shit.

[2175] Like, try to eat.

[2176] Like, try.

[2177] Like, let there be, like, let there be, like, some blank spots.

[2178] Let there be some dead air And force himself To come up with the funny and find the funny And then you see it revised the next night And you see it revised That was what they said about prior They said prior would show up At Tuesday With a bunch of ideas For bits And they would bomb And then on Wednesday They might bomb a little less And then on Thursday They would start kicking And then Friday came along And he was in the maid room murdering With some shit that he came up with On Tuesday day.

[2179] But that's because those guys aren't scared to stare down the bull.

[2180] Right, right.

[2181] Because a lot of guys get their first 20 and they're so scared of letting it go because it was so hard.

[2182] So hard.

[2183] And it's hard.

[2184] People always say, oh, it's hard to be an open micrower.

[2185] No, bro.

[2186] It's hard to be Chris Rock.

[2187] It's hard to be an open micer too.

[2188] No, it is.

[2189] But what I mean is that Chris Rock may be harder to be an open micrer because you don't know what the path is.

[2190] Like, you don't even know how to get funny.

[2191] But what I mean by that is that is that the old.

[2192] Open micer, when you started coming, how many guys did you know who were so much funnier than you, just because they played poker without chips on the table, they would show up on their terms, go on their favorite room, do their favorite material, they would have a couple of drinks.

[2193] But they would then disappear.

[2194] And then when they get the weekend and it's Thursday, you've got to be funny at 8 o 'clock.

[2195] Friday you've got to be funny at 7 and 10.

[2196] They would kind of fall apart because they're only playing poker by their rules when they're comfortable with their friends in their favorite rooms but can you be a professional five times a week also when you feel uncomfortable going to this new place and then you know you have to do a long time do you have the stamina to keep that party mind going on for 45, 50 minutes a lot of free balling a lot of free balling free ballin's fine if you're doing 15 minutes you don't worry about it yeah yeah that's what I'm saying it's on your terms it's different thing It's on your terms, you know?

[2197] Yeah, well, I think if you're going to prepare for a special, you have to do a lot of hours.

[2198] I don't really think you could get away with, unless you're a guy who does a lot of non -sequiters, maybe you could piece together like three or four sets and then put them together for one night.

[2199] Because if you know how they go, you could do that, like if you're working in New York City.

[2200] But there's no substitute for those long -ass sets, man. Yeah, absolutely.

[2201] And there's different types of comedians that have a different process.

[2202] Absolutely.

[2203] There's no right way of doing it.

[2204] But are you staring down the bull of your own fears, you know?

[2205] Right.

[2206] Whereas some guys maybe might not benefit from writing during the day.

[2207] I get that.

[2208] But are you maybe overlooking some...

[2209] No, no, no, no. Everybody benefits from writing.

[2210] Yeah, that's what I think.

[2211] I don't believe that.

[2212] I don't believe that.

[2213] I believe even the greats.

[2214] Even the greats who don't do it, if they did it, they'd be even better.

[2215] And I think that because of my own personal experience with writing a lot.

[2216] Absolutely.

[2217] When I started, I remember that was exactly the murderers around me, who were a bit ahead of me, During the day, they would all have these talks and they would all be like, what is the path and the energy and what the, you know, what is the comedy?

[2218] What is it?

[2219] But the whole time, I'm just writing basic hacky anecdotes, because I'm fucking two years in, of course, I'm writing basic hockey anecdotes.

[2220] But I remember from sports, because they all came from either fucking bars or artistic or theater.

[2221] I came from sports where it's like, no, no, show up for practice.

[2222] I don't go to fuck.

[2223] If it's your off day, listen, if your leg hurts, don't kick as hard, but just be there.

[2224] Be cognitively in the process.

[2225] You're putting energy into the universe.

[2226] And the way the universe has always worked is if you put energy out, something's coming back.

[2227] There's never, I've never known a comedian who has been working hard honestly for 10 years and hasn't made it.

[2228] I've never known a guy.

[2229] If they have it, if they have the spark.

[2230] But there have been some people that somehow another snuck through and somebody.

[2231] bizarre way that are still there.

[2232] Yeah, but even that is a true testament of if you just fucking...

[2233] Right, but what...

[2234] Yeah, but we can talk about that later.

[2235] That's not important to be negative.

[2236] But yeah, you're right.

[2237] It's like if you...

[2238] I always say to people that are funny at all.

[2239] Like, if you do an open mic night and you make me laugh.

[2240] I'm like, you have the hardest part down.

[2241] You're funny.

[2242] So true.

[2243] Now just keep going.

[2244] Now just keep working at it.

[2245] And the more time you spend working on it in every realm, whether the more sets you do, the more recordings you listen to, the more writing, you sit in front of your notepad.

[2246] Yeah, write, sit down, come up with ideas, mess around, mess around, like, go over some of your old notes.

[2247] You should have old notes.

[2248] You should, I have, like, an orphan baby folder.

[2249] So, like, they're orphan jokes of mine.

[2250] You know, the thing about writing, they always say, kill your babies, you know, like, for editing.

[2251] It's hard for writers, or hard for anybody who's a creative person.

[2252] They create something, you don't want to let it go.

[2253] I have, like, a whole folder of orphan babies, and I'll go back to that folder every now and then.

[2254] Every once in a month.

[2255] Maybe I need to talk about that again.

[2256] Yeah.

[2257] Maybe I find a new way.

[2258] And so you always have like some fertile land to till.

[2259] And that's only from writing.

[2260] If you don't write, then you're just stuck with what's in your mind right now.

[2261] And what's in your mind right now is probably pretty good.

[2262] A lot of guys do very well with what's their mind right now, especially they do a lot of sets.

[2263] But you're really better off if you also spend some more time working on the ideas in silence by yourself.

[2264] Just sit there.

[2265] Sit there and every now and then you come up with some of my best lines.

[2266] I've come up with that way.

[2267] Exactly.

[2268] Just out of nowhere And then the most magical Dude I had that At the Little Boy on Tuesday We're doing bottom of the barrel Where I pull out a subject And There's like a shelf in my mind That was there I put that topic there Seven, eight years ago Ah And then you remember it I just put it there And I never even thought about it Because it was so stupid It wasn't even And then it comes out of bottom of the barrel Like a little gift from the universe Then I go to the green room I write it out go straight to fat man murder yeah that's the beautiful thing about that place it's it really is a true place where you can develop I'm taking a couple weeks off but I'll be back yeah yeah dude it's crazy I need to just relax a little you know the first time I saw you was in Australia I know yeah we're talking about that comics lounge Melbourne one of the door guys Tim was a good friend of mine and he writes me during the day hey Tony Hinchcliff and this was when I told you this was when Tony this was fucking eight years ago he was already good but he wasn't the heel that he is now the guy but he had that spark because when he opened for you in the theater I remember he opened with Melbourne Australia lots of white people what is this heaven and Melbourne is a super liberal the theater the release yeah yeah yeah there needs to be attention for there to be released.

[2269] And I remember my friend Tim writes me and he goes, oh, Joe Rogan and they're coming to.

[2270] And he was another guy's, it was like an Australian guy's show or something.

[2271] You know, that's his headlining show.

[2272] And he was big in Australia, but not like pack out the club, half papered, older people.

[2273] You know, it was like a regular crowd, I would say.

[2274] Nothing superstar, rock star shit.

[2275] Right.

[2276] And all the open micers, all me, everybody.

[2277] gets back into the room to watch you because you're our first famous guy that we've seen drop into that club and in our head you know how open my we're all haters dude we're all like let's see this American guy bomb you know because we're all haters at that point you know open mic oh yeah I was a hitter yeah what do you think dude I'm getting two minutes at this club what the fuck am I you know so we're all like oh how's this and you come they go from America and this was you had the Jorgon experience he was I think on you just went from you stream to YouTube it It was big in the comedy community.

[2278] But in Australia, pop culture, not that big.

[2279] You were the fear factor guy, I would say.

[2280] Just looking at the crowd what they thought of you.

[2281] And you get a polite, nothing like it would be today.

[2282] You get a polite applause.

[2283] And you go out there and it was your triggered set.

[2284] You did so clever, too.

[2285] You did the opener of your hour and the closer, right?

[2286] Because I saw you in the next day in the theater.

[2287] Dude, you were murdering so hard when you had that Kim Kardashian bit, when you're climbing on a stool, you're kicking off the heels.

[2288] Sweat was dripping, because it was summer in Australia.

[2289] Sweat was dripping down, I remember.

[2290] And all of us, like comics in the back are like, this is not a crowd that for who Kim Kardashian is a prevalent pop figure, but your bit was so, so good that it transcends the reference.

[2291] You know, it's like me as a young kid watching Dave Chappelle doing crack baby.

[2292] I'm an Estonian white kid in a suburb.

[2293] What do I know about the corner and the projects?

[2294] I've never seen a black person.

[2295] But he's literally never.

[2296] But his talent transcends the reference.

[2297] And I remember you were murdering so hard.

[2298] And that's when I was like, holy fuck.

[2299] Because we all thought you're just like a famous guy who just does stand up on the side.

[2300] And we were like, no, this guy's a murderer.

[2301] And I remember that poor headliner, I mean, rest in peace.

[2302] And you were like slamming.

[2303] Well, thanks, brother.

[2304] Yeah, that was right when I was about to film triggered.

[2305] Yeah, that shit was tight.

[2306] That shit was tight.

[2307] And then I remember somebody comes back to me. They know I smoke weed.

[2308] They go, Mr. Rogan needs weed.

[2309] And in my head, I'm like, didn't we hang out on this little balcony area, a little fire escape?

[2310] So let me tell you about this balcony.

[2311] Hey, we got to go, man. Sorry, I got to wrap this up.

[2312] Let's wrap it up.

[2313] Let's wrap it up with this.

[2314] Okay.

[2315] So you're on the balcony.

[2316] And I get the weed and I tell my friend Tim, see, I'm cool.

[2317] I'm not going to talk and everybody tried to talk to you there.

[2318] I'm just going to give you a fist bump on the weed.

[2319] I go, I have the weed.

[2320] Tim grabs the weed, turns around and just walks away.

[2321] And in my head, I'm like, I wish I could have just given you a fist bump, you know.

[2322] But now, nine years later, fuck you, Tim.

[2323] Fuck you, Tim.

[2324] You hate her?

[2325] You took his weed.

[2326] Yeah, that was fun.

[2327] It's cool.

[2328] It's always cool to go to a different country and see the scene.

[2329] And Melbourne had a pretty good scene.

[2330] And then you murder in the theater.

[2331] 7 a .m. I see you at the UFC.

[2332] Holyholme, Ronda, Rousey, amazing K .O. Dude, I go back to bed.

[2333] I wake up.

[2334] You're already in L .A. talking to a scientist engaged.

[2335] I'm like, this guy fucking.

[2336] That was like a crazy weekend, you know.

[2337] Yeah, it's a wild life.

[2338] anyway again thank you my brother thank you for being at the club thanks for being an awesome guy it's great having you around thank you so much flourish and if people get a chance to see you live don't miss it a r is a real killer thank you 12 years in and it's beautiful to see you there man and thank you very much for being there Friday and Saturday night you fucking heard that it meant a lot to me it really did thank you all you guys uh Ron and Tony too like that meant so much to me because it was like I was at home it was like we're home no matter where we go the club's amazing thank you so much I'll tell everybody your Instagrams.

[2339] They could find you.

[2340] So Ari Maddie comedy, R -E -M -A -T -I comedy and Instagram, easiest way.

[2341] You have a website?

[2342] Building one.

[2343] Building one?

[2344] I have an old one, Ari Mati .com.

[2345] But if you go to the Instagram, all my dates are there.

[2346] All right.

[2347] Beautiful.

[2348] Thank you so much.

[2349] My pleasure.

[2350] Bye everybody.

[2351] Bye.