#830 - Neal Brennan

[0] I got stories.

[1] I got that magnetic shit I did to my brain.

[2] Now, is it happening?

[3] It's happening right now.

[4] Crazy how it works out like that, right?

[5] Yeah.

[6] What were you just about to say?

[7] Magnetic shit?

[8] I was about to say I did some magnetic shit to my brain.

[9] What?

[10] Yeah, I feel like I'm your depression correspondent.

[11] Like, I go out and do crazy shit.

[12] I did that.

[13] All right, so it's called, I talked about it last time I was here.

[14] I was going to do it.

[15] I did ketamine.

[16] which I got to say I cannot recommend Really?

[17] Yeah I did three No actually I did six sessions Which was crazy did it But the side effects long term were My eyes burnt for straight up two to three months Every day Burnt like I needed drops constantly Like you stare at the sun burnt No like irritated Like you got something in them?

[18] Yeah more like that And I just felt like kind of groggy and out of it for a couple months.

[19] Really?

[20] Yeah.

[21] Then I did.

[22] Well, let's explain that, though, because we kind of glossed over it.

[23] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[24] Well, I talked about it last time I was here, but I did.

[25] Yeah.

[26] Yeah, because I got a lot of people.

[27] Did you talk about you were going to do it or you're?

[28] I don't, maybe I was going to do it.

[29] I think you had done it.

[30] Yeah, I had done it.

[31] And I was, it was still too early to tell.

[32] But I remember running into you in the hall, the comedy store, and you were super happy with it.

[33] It was amazing.

[34] The first time I did it, the first two sessions were great.

[35] And then after that, I kind of.

[36] kind of hit a plateau and and the the I just kind of felt like ugh just kind of like groggy for I'm not kidding like a couple months so the first session you did you get this positive benefit from it yeah the point in continuing uh you're because the the the treatment is six sessions the protocol yeah that's the protocol hmm so um hold on I think I have video of it too whoa I know I have video twitching and no it's not even that interesting you're just in a basically in like a hospital room right but and uh but the experience itself you said was full blown psychedelic straight up fucking 100 % tripping my tripping balls and this is all FDA approved uh it's FDA approved as an anesthetic right it's not FDA approved at actually you know what it's getting that I think it is there actually because otherwise it wouldn't be depression treatment.

[37] Off labels, tricky shit, isn't it?

[38] Yes, because there's no, they don't know.

[39] Yeah.

[40] Maybe.

[41] I mean, that's all of them in some ways, especially with antidepressants.

[42] It's all like, yeah, this might, this might could do something, maybe not.

[43] I like that there's stuff that they can do to you that is definitely beneficial, but it's just, you know, your insurance isn't going to cover it.

[44] If you have the cash, you can pay for it.

[45] Yeah, that's kind of the situation I was in where it's like, nobody was going to pay for it but if you want to roll the dice and i rolled the dice and i got to say but you do you think that if the initial treatments that you had the first couple that you really had good responses from if you just stopped there you'd have a different opinion of it i don't know that's the thing is if i just did it once it kind of felt like you ever do acid yes you know that like ping that like super clear feeling you get that's how i felt the day i saw you I did ask it for the first time, like, I want to say four months ago, five months ago.

[46] That's great.

[47] What did you think?

[48] Loved it.

[49] Yeah?

[50] You didn't find it too intense?

[51] No. Okay.

[52] Because it could be speedy as fuck.

[53] I'm so used to edibles and float tanks.

[54] Yeah.

[55] That I think it's very introspect.

[56] It was very clean.

[57] Like the idea behind it.

[58] Like the feeling behind it, the thought process behind it.

[59] I was like, ooh, this is like, it's a mind clarifier.

[60] It's like, you know, Bill Hicks used to call it a squeegee in your third eye, like mushrooms.

[61] It felt, it felt very clarifying, if that makes any sense.

[62] Yeah, but it makes total sense.

[63] I felt great.

[64] I felt really good.

[65] It felt really friendly.

[66] During?

[67] Yeah, man. You must have had good stuff because a lot of times it can be speedy, and it ends up feeling like mushrooms and I think maybe meth.

[68] Oh, combined.

[69] Yeah, so you end up with this just like intense fucking...

[70] It's not the goddamn problem is that it's illegal.

[71] Okay, you're getting weird versions of it.

[72] Here's the doctor putting the IV in my arm.

[73] Okay.

[74] Oh, Jesus.

[75] Can I say it?

[76] Yeah.

[77] Oh, Christ.

[78] Did you take this with the 1980s phone?

[79] No, that's just the way it's saved or whatever.

[80] Why is it saved so little?

[81] I don't know.

[82] This is a bit of all.

[83] Did it blow it up?

[84] No, I can't.

[85] All right.

[86] So this doctor is...

[87] He looked like Bob Shapiro, OJ's counsel.

[88] OJ's lead counsel.

[89] He can click the thing in the upper corner.

[90] So you just go into a regular doctor's office and sticks this thing in your arm.

[91] Sticks a thing in your arm and off you go.

[92] Now the doctor, has he tried it himself?

[93] He would not say, but he said it with a wink that he had.

[94] He was like, I won't comment either way on whether I've done it myself.

[95] Yeah, all those guys didn't want to keep it on the sneak tip.

[96] Yeah, but clearly he had.

[97] So, yeah, so I would say for the first session was amazing.

[98] That's when I saw you.

[99] And then after that, it got a little dicey.

[100] Now, what does it feel like when you're in?

[101] I was in a, it felt like I was in a pod.

[102] A pod.

[103] In like a small, it's a small world after all, like pod.

[104] I'm going into the pod now, crossing my arms.

[105] and like a little boat just going along through rooms and the rooms I would say were designed like kind of a bit like what's the uh clockwork orange but like the the milk bar thing a bit like white walls white breathing walls and yeah breathing I'd say they were breathing yeah they were inhaling and exhaling and but I was never freaked out And then there was like kind of digits on it like The Matrix.

[106] It had like a green hue to it.

[107] My biggest worry when I was in it was like, I'm so out of it.

[108] If there's an earthquake, I'm fucked.

[109] And I would get like wide shots of California.

[110] I would get like wide shots of California and think about like the hospital crumbling.

[111] And then I'm me trying to get out and going like, I can't go, man. You're not going to have to go without me. Give me 40 minutes.

[112] catch up to you guys.

[113] So that was my biggest worry.

[114] But for the most part, it was just like a fairly pleasant.

[115] I just couldn't get over the fact that this was happening in a doctor's office.

[116] Right.

[117] Just like a regular ass fucking doctor.

[118] Like literally waiting room with other physicians and their patients, old weirdos, shitty magazines, and then you go in and you trip your fucking head off.

[119] And so you're sitting in like a regular chair?

[120] You're sitting, it's a reclineable bed.

[121] Like a craftmatic type thing.

[122] Oh, yeah, it's real nice.

[123] They spared no wristments.

[124] So you're sitting in this craftmatic adjustable bed.

[125] You get the needle in the arm, and they leave it in there for how long?

[126] 40 minutes.

[127] 40 minutes.

[128] Now, if an earthquake happened, could you just pull the needle out of your arm?

[129] I was so out of it.

[130] I don't think I could have.

[131] I think once the drip happened, like, it's in you for a while.

[132] So once the drip happens, you probably have however long.

[133] I mean, it's a 40 -minute trip, apparently, but I don't know if it's based on one.

[134] if it's i don't know how much is going in at once now that stuff ketamine is weird because it's um it was a tranquilizer right for animals a veterinary yeah it's exactly that's a it's a horse tranquilizer and they use it as an anesthesia for humans yeah i've heard of that the guy was an anesthesiologist he was yeah don't they use that in wartime because it's easy to carry around i believe they have in wartime because you can use very small amounts and it puts people under You know what that sounds like?

[135] That sounds like a Joe Rogan fact.

[136] Yeah.

[137] I don't know for sure, but it sounds like yes.

[138] I think I'm pretty sure that's the case.

[139] I'm pretty sure I was listening to a podcast where they were talking about various forms of anesthesia and sort of the evolution of using anesthesia and that ketamine worked really good in the field because you could have a very small amount and you would put someone under pretty deeply.

[140] Yeah, I don't know what if it's local.

[141] Do you know what I mean?

[142] like, I don't know if you could have done surgery.

[143] It wasn't like I couldn't feel myself.

[144] Right, right.

[145] It was more like I had no interest in it.

[146] What do you got here?

[147] Following FDA approval in 1970?

[148] What did that?

[149] Ensthesia was first given to American soldiers during the Vietnam War.

[150] Oh, there you go.

[151] Yeah, there's a lot of shit on Reddit about it as an anti -depressant, as a treatment for depression.

[152] So for you, you heard about this how.

[153] I don't know.

[154] I want to say if you just Google depression treatments, it's probably page two, or alternative depression treatments is probably what I, what I googled.

[155] Now, we've had these conversations before you and I about depression and different treatments.

[156] How much exercise do you do?

[157] Did we talk about this before?

[158] Yeah, decent amount.

[159] I've run probably three, four days a week.

[160] That's pretty nice.

[161] Yeah.

[162] That's supposed to be one of the best things for depressions.

[163] Yeah.

[164] Cardio.

[165] But like I've never gotten a runner's high, if that makes sense.

[166] I think I have a shortage of dopamine in my brain just naturally like I just think I don't have a ton of dopamine like I don't Joy is not a thing I think I've ever experienced what I repeat joy is the thing that I don't think I've ever experienced I'll experience adrenaline rushes and like ego but I'll never be truly like joyous yeah it stinks it fucking stinks because it's something I'm I I believe in I just don't I I've accomplished things I've done you know what I mean but I never get this sense of like this real you know in very small doses extremely like micro doses so like let me put it into perspective like career -wise like yeah you had a nice comedy central special special they put a lot of hype behind it you did I watched he did really well got great response how'd you feel when all that was over I felt cool cool do you know what I mean like yeah exactly like all right good shit man keep going see what else Yeah.

[167] But I was never like, during Chappelle's show, I never got like, I'm the king of the world.

[168] You know what I mean?

[169] Never that sort of like huge, you know, something that would make you want to scream you feel so good.

[170] Right.

[171] Do you get that much?

[172] All the day.

[173] 24 -7.

[174] I just hold it in.

[175] Just trying not to scream.

[176] If you want to take a break, if you want to go up on the roof.

[177] I'm the worst guy to talk to this about because I don't really get depressed.

[178] I've been depressed before.

[179] But answer my question.

[180] The joy question.

[181] I'm joyful all the time.

[182] Are you really?

[183] So that wasn't a joke.

[184] You really are.

[185] No, I'm pretty happy.

[186] That's great.

[187] Here's a good news.

[188] You seem happy.

[189] Yeah.

[190] Like, I buy it.

[191] I'm not like this fucking Joe Rogan thinks he's happy.

[192] You seem happy.

[193] I have a lot of friends.

[194] Yeah.

[195] Like, that's a big part of it, you know?

[196] A lot of cool friends.

[197] I love, I love having a family.

[198] Love what I do.

[199] Yeah.

[200] Like my jobs.

[201] My day is filled with stuff I enjoy doing.

[202] Yep.

[203] You know, I mean, it's just fucking, I'm just lucky.

[204] Yeah.

[205] Super lucky.

[206] have many of the same things yeah i just don't feel that that sense of satisfaction you you have now has it varied have you had higher and lower feelings of satisfaction yeah i think when i'm working a lot i feel pretty satisfied oh okay um okay so accomplishments or task task and goal oriented yeah like i like it's satisfying to do a special or direct a commercial or or or or or or write a TV show or you know well i'll tell you one thing i say i'm filled with joy and i'm happy all the time when i'm not working or i'm not accomplishing anything or i'm not doing like if i get like real lazy i can get depressed somebody else told me that they said the very very joyous guy told me when he gets injured he just that takes it out of him again i've been injured a gang of times i've had a bunch of surgeries from um you know athletic injuries but um for me uh if i go into lulls, like if I'm not accomplishing things or in the past, I don't allow myself to get into those anymore because it's just not a good feeling.

[207] And even, it doesn't even necessarily have to be like a career, like, oriented thing, but I have to have things that I'm enjoying.

[208] Yeah.

[209] It could just be like I'm really into doing yoga.

[210] So I'm doing yoga every day.

[211] And it's, I do it.

[212] I get it done and now I feel great.

[213] Yeah.

[214] But if I'm not doing something, I, my brain for whatever reason, needs tasks.

[215] It needs stuff to do.

[216] It needs stuff to figure out.

[217] It needs like puzzles.

[218] Yeah.

[219] If I don't get that, I have a real issue.

[220] Yeah.

[221] Agreed.

[222] Do you like big long -term goals?

[223] Yes.

[224] It's just like, yeah, you do.

[225] Yeah.

[226] I tend to like micro thing.

[227] I like things.

[228] I like I like things that are doing like a week as opposed to something that's like yeah, whenever you're like I'm outlining a movie right now.

[229] I'm like yeah.

[230] But I don't, I wish it were more like.

[231] Bang bang.

[232] Yeah.

[233] Like I'm meeting about it tomorrow like specifically two.

[234] so to like kind of focus myself like you write a joke and then you go up to do it tonight and it kills yeah yeah oh that's okay that's something that that's joy that's pretty damn near joy yeah killing or just writing a joke writing a joke that it and it kills it's like that feeling man don't you wish you could give that to people who don't do stand -up yep i sure do i mean just like it's it i've i've had this conversation with people before that don't do stand -up and i'm like man, I wish I could tell you what it's like to crush in front of 5 ,000 people.

[235] It's like finding $100 ,000.

[236] Do you know what I mean?

[237] Yeah.

[238] That's how it feels.

[239] It feels like, oh, I just found $100 ,000.

[240] And you know what led me there?

[241] My personality and my experience.

[242] And your work ethic.

[243] And your work ethic.

[244] That's exactly right.

[245] That's a big part of it.

[246] You feel like, oh, this is so, it's so personal.

[247] Yeah.

[248] It feels like this could only, if it's a good joke, only you could have written it, you know?

[249] Well, even if other people could have written it, you wrote it.

[250] Like, this thing came out of the sky out of your...

[251] It chose you.

[252] Yeah.

[253] Yeah, it chose you.

[254] Yeah, whatever it is.

[255] So that I will say is like, that's a sense of euphoria.

[256] But I think in some ways I try to kind of contain it a little bit in that where I'm like, whoa, you know what I mean?

[257] Like, this thing, I don't know what to do with this feeling.

[258] Because it's the kind of thing where you just want to like go up and kiss women.

[259] Like, hey, foot of theirs, and smack people on the ass.

[260] And, like, I just fucking wrote a, I wrote a fucking closer.

[261] What the fuck did you?

[262] You know what I mean?

[263] Like, you just feel like a, like a musical.

[264] Tony Henscliffe had this new joke, and he did it.

[265] And he came off stage, like, right after he did it.

[266] And he was literally, like, like, fist pumping, like, you know?

[267] He was just so fired up because it killed.

[268] He was so fired up.

[269] It's like, he was, like, charged with electricity.

[270] Yeah.

[271] that's nice when you can allow yourself to just like yeah yeah and not and nobody gets you can do it in a way that no one gets jealous or feels like you're you're preening you got to hang out with better people no I don't but I we're hanging out with basically the same yeah but I'm saying like if that's the problem yeah you know and I've all been there before too like the like if where things are going well and you're hanging around someone and they get super weird and creepy with you and they withdraw you're like yeah yeah what do you just kind of like what do you want me to do you want me to fail well there's people that do definitely want you to fail but what they definitely want you to fail but what they definitely definitely don't want you to do is highlight the fact that they're not succeeding well yeah but that's what most people consider a lot of people consider your success they'll their failure yeah that's such a bizarre way of looking on it i know it's so common though like what evolutionary benefit does that have fine well finite resources yeah i think that's what it comes from right it just comes from their you know when people go ah there's enough jobs for everyone you and i both know no there's not no there's not there's enough jobs for talented people but if you don't feel like you're talented then you are fucking yeah panicked all the time and then it's a it's a self -fulfilling prophecy yeah because that sort of famine thinking yeah is really bad for progress yeah if you're a person who's really worried about other people getting things and you start thinking in a jealous manner about other people's success that fucks up your own ability to express yourself.

[272] Yeah.

[273] And that fucks up your ability to succeed.

[274] It depends on how it hits you.

[275] It can it can be a motivator, I believe.

[276] Sure.

[277] Definitely.

[278] Where you're like, fucking he got it.

[279] You know, I can't get whatever that is.

[280] But it's hard to, you got to kind of wrestle it into a positive way.

[281] Because if you get upset that somebody else got something, then usually it's a bitter motivator and it doesn't lend itself to success.

[282] But I've never, I don't think I've ever had something where I was like, that should have been mine do you know what I mean like one have you ever had that where it was like a job that you were like definitely when I was younger for sure what sorts of things were they I'm sure looking back there absurd yeah absurd things that I didn't deserve you know like someone else getting a television show or someone else headlining a certain place and it's for comics there really is not it's not a finite situation it's not like there's a limited amount of resources there's so many different clubs and there's so many different topics and there's so many different jobs I mean I think that's one of the reasons why comics are so ruthless when it comes to plagiarism because like say if you have a really unique idea and this idea is come to you from the universe and you're sketching it out and putting it together and some fucker comes in and sees this and says ah I can I can I've started looking at jokes as inventions and it's like you stole my fucking invention that's my invention dude like I don't My inventions are word inventions, or I did premise inventions or whatever.

[283] Like, so it's intellectual property.

[284] Yeah.

[285] Like, you know that that's mine.

[286] Mm -hmm.

[287] So to steal it is, is worse than plagiarism.

[288] It's like copyright infringement.

[289] It's like, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, uh, unforgivable.

[290] It also cuts in and creates that weird, competitive, finite resources mentality.

[291] It creates it.

[292] It creates like a mind fuck.

[293] Yeah.

[294] Because then all of a sudden you start thinking, like, oh, well, this is not like a community of like -minded people that are supporting each other.

[295] There's like some parasites in here.

[296] And there's some vampires that will come.

[297] It's people with different standards because we all more or less have, I don't know if it's learned in the comedy community or we all come into it with certain standards.

[298] But there is that thing of like there's an acceptable, you know what I mean?

[299] like it's almost like not closing with a super dirty joke if the person after you isn't a dirty comment you know what I mean like there's just certain you care about them yeah exactly yeah there's certain unwritten rules that you wonder like camaraderie yes yeah that you don't want to fuck people over and then when somebody else does some shit like that you're like wait a minute mm -hmm um but the way I thought of it it's like well I was right another one I mean obviously it's the worst and it's unforgivable but like I've had people steal shit from me yeah it's gonna happen but it all it It fucks up the best part about stand -up.

[300] Like last night at the store, I was hanging around with Stanhope and Michael Costa and all these guys.

[301] And we're just laughing and hanging around.

[302] There's a cool camaraderie.

[303] Michael Costa's been great lately.

[304] Michael Costa's been, like, hit a stride that, like, the kind of jokes he's writing are fucking great.

[305] Very funny guy.

[306] And really nice guy, too.

[307] Yeah, hilarious.

[308] Like, such a sweet guy.

[309] Yeah.

[310] But that place is filled with that kind of cool camaraderie.

[311] That's the point to me. Yeah.

[312] Do you know what I mean?

[313] Like, that's really, like, the fun of it.

[314] like what you've done with like your people and and other comics and like you like your group of the death's whatever you want to call but like but but that's the point of like that's my favorite part of it and it's there's no close second it's not money it's not it's literally like a vibe and it's connecting with somebody yeah I agree it's all hugs you know you go to the store on any given night it's all hugs it's all a bunch of guys that appreciate each other and girls you know people who are really funny get together and you that place right now is it's hotter than it's ever been last night Tuesday night sold out and just packed main room original room and belly room packed yeah it's crazy and by the way it should be yeah the shows are fucking bananas yeah the shows at this comedy store are fundraisers anywhere else in the world yeah yeah yeah but here it's just like yeah Ron White Joey Diaz Duncan Truzzle R's yeah I mean it's fucking crazy the lineups bang bang yeah you see killer after killer Ian Edwards like holy shit yeah jesselnick yeah oh my god all the time it's it's the lineups are amazing but it's also like the feel like man I think we are in a golden era yeah like it feels like wow we're really lucky to be here right now yeah yeah I mean yeah there's guys like you that almost like created it in a way like by going back to the store and by validating it and then you your fans go and then it's like a self -fulfilling thing but but yeah it definitely feels like I don't know what I feel like although did you watch the roast the roast battle yeah i thought it was fucking great i didn't watch on comedy central oh no i was in part of it i think was my in montreal no i was in the part that was in the belly room or they filmed oh they did a special that i didn't watch there's a five there's the five parts that they did from montreal and it was great it was great like the ralphie may yeah ralphi i thought i heard he took a beating he got yeah he saw his but again the thing with ral we saw his entire career flash in front of his eye uh but what do you expect when you're doing a roast it's like I know if I do a roast people are going to fucking kill me on Chappelle right repeatedly right of course so I'm now I'm just like all right let's judge this level of how hard you're going to hit me yeah so Ralphie got hit on a weight joke which is like wait in his divorce his family yeah yeah oh right that's hardcore yeah family like left him yeah so he's alone yeah he's fat yeah depressed yeah and then Someone just kept teeing off on him.

[315] Who was he roasting?

[316] Was it Mike Lawrence?

[317] Mike Lawrence, who won, is really funny.

[318] Yeah.

[319] He's a really funny, dude.

[320] But apparently, Ralphie just didn't take it so well.

[321] Yeah.

[322] Well, I'm happy to take a swing at him.

[323] Was it that close?

[324] It was like, you know, it had that, even on TV, it was that feeling of like, oh, I would, I could see this going, going a certain way.

[325] I don't want to do that.

[326] I don't want to say that to people.

[327] I don't want to say anything that's going to make something.

[328] I definitely don't want anybody saying that to me. It's going to make me feel like that.

[329] What's funny is there's a zoom in on Ralphie's face.

[330] And as you're watching it, you're like, did they zoom in or does I zoom in?

[331] Like, wait a minute.

[332] Did I imagine that zoom in or did they do that?

[333] Oh, Christ.

[334] That is a goddamn brutal show.

[335] Yeah.

[336] But good for comedy, man. Really good for comedy.

[337] Yeah, it's a good format.

[338] It's a cool format.

[339] They figured out a new format.

[340] Great joke writer format.

[341] Yeah.

[342] It's like it's fair.

[343] It's like literally just like head to head.

[344] And it rewards good jokes.

[345] They laugh at the, it's like Madison Square Garden.

[346] They say people know basketball there.

[347] Like NBA players say people know basketball.

[348] Like they know that's how it feels at the roast battle.

[349] Like people know comedy and they reward high level of difficulty jokes.

[350] Yes.

[351] I agree.

[352] And also I think one of the things that roast battle is really good for comedy is it's pushing the boundaries of acceptable jokes.

[353] Yeah.

[354] And this is a weird time where people are fucking, you know, this whole idea about punching up and there's so much horseshit involved in like what is and is not acceptable and stand up today.

[355] Yeah.

[356] And it's it's a bunch of people that are trying to control behavior and thinking.

[357] Right.

[358] And that just doesn't fly in that world.

[359] It's the pushback.

[360] Like what roast battle is is the pushback to this PC era that we're in right now.

[361] If they could prove to me that joking leads to.

[362] action, I would pay more attention.

[363] Do you know what I mean?

[364] But it doesn't.

[365] I know.

[366] But if they could say, yeah, Hitler made a lot of jokes about invading Austria.

[367] He used to do tons of bits about Austria.

[368] And then eventually he brought the hammer down.

[369] Like, if you could prove some sort of, some sort of, you know, the A and B, A plus B equals C, then yeah, then it's like, okay, I agree.

[370] But you also know that racism and all that shit is like it ain't about joking it's about like a lot of times it's about poverty it's the class it's so many other things that aren't that aren't necessarily comedy yeah and and even a poverty of ideas i mean it's a it's a thought process poverty it's poor thinking yeah i mean that's what racism really is and what jokes are is like you know that there's a certain about of racism and you play on it and there's a there's a wink as you're doing it right like in a joke form right and there's some racist shit that people can say to each other in that joke battle or the roast battle that is fucking hilarious yes yeah there were black people can't swim to i mean there were 9 -11 off the out of the fucking tons of 9 -11 jokes george Perez and saratiana were roasting and saratiana was roasting him about seratiana is insanely good at that shit she's amazing like one of those things where it's like someone can talk real fast or something where you're like I didn't even know you could do this shit like she's like double jointed or something like wait what you can do Sarah you can do the splits all right it comes off even crazier because she's so sweet yeah and she's got this smiling pretty face which I believe yes you know what I mean like there is no hatred in her in her roast no no but she knows she knows where the soft spots are yeah and that's where she sticks the blade yeah and did she came in second she almost she just kind of ran out of steam like she just ran it was they'd write a lot of jokes oh yeah man it's brutal um so yeah but she she she sarah congrats to sarah i don't know so hinchcliff did it with a suit of armor on yes and would have won but fucked up his last joke maybe it was really close and his last joke was a clanker i think his first joke and his last joke but hinchcliffe's good at that shit too oh he's really good at it yeah hinchcliff is mean he knows how to get after it certain guys you can tell he means what he said he's up there he's doing a documentary he's not he's doing a documentary about his thoughts it's not a lot of like there's art to it but it's like oh this is all based on a true story yeah well i'm just happy that comedy central is taken that's a big chance and they've they've taken quite a few big chances recently like i think with ari shafo uh arre shafir show this is not happening yeah that was a big chance and that show is really racy really out there some of the stories are fucking completely outrageous so they've got that and then they're taking chances with this as well and it's you know it's off the beaten path this is a new thing there this is not like another guy's doing a talk show oh great you know i think they're following the sort of what's working live yes and smartly going how do we televise it because i because the truth about comedy central is the ratings are so bad at this point that they relative to what they were that I think they're like it's Kent Alterman just going like I like that let's do that right and leaving shows on that are not particularly highly rated because he likes it if they do that though I think that's the right way to go if they just find what people actually enjoy that like LA right now has a comedy scene a big comedy scene yeah and roast battle is one of the highlights of the comedy scenes everybody goes to see it man last night there's a fucking line like Rose Bell started at midnight.

[371] I got there at 10, and the line was already around the fucking outside of the patio the store.

[372] Yeah.

[373] All waiting to get in.

[374] Yeah.

[375] Because I think people didn't know about it until, like, this week, literally the TV show.

[376] Because of the show.

[377] Yeah.

[378] That definitely an impact.

[379] But it's cool to see.

[380] It's cool.

[381] That's great.

[382] It's fair.

[383] Yeah.

[384] It's what it is.

[385] It's like, okay, this is fucking, there's a little goddamn justice right here.

[386] Like a funny thing that people were doing live.

[387] And I think, like, famous people judges helps.

[388] But, like, for the most part, it's.

[389] It's just, it's funny to watch.

[390] It's fun to watch these people go head to head.

[391] I heard the Whoopi Goldberg was awful.

[392] She was just like...

[393] Why are you making that face?

[394] Yeah, I would agree.

[395] Whoopi was never like a comic.

[396] Do you know what I mean?

[397] Well, Whoopi was a comic, but it wasn't really real.

[398] Not like a club comic.

[399] She did it?

[400] Yeah, but to me, she did that one woman show, which was in a theater, was not stand -up, and then she did comic relief, where she did.

[401] She was doing a monologue with two other dudes.

[402] I'm pretty sure she did comedy clubs, too.

[403] Okay, maybe.

[404] I'm pretty sure I saw her.

[405] Sometimes, Joe, things pass you by.

[406] And certain shit, it's like you kind of...

[407] Well, when she was going back and forth with Jessenek, and she said, I have Oscars...

[408] Yeah, she's like, all the shit I got, and Jessinick was like a bunch of shit from the 80s, which is like...

[409] Well, that doesn't make you funny either.

[410] Oh, exactly.

[411] It's like, yeah, you brought a...

[412] You brought an Oscar to a comedy show.

[413] Not only that, it's the opposite of being funny.

[414] Like, talking about your accomplishments is the opposite of like a good comeback.

[415] Yeah.

[416] Like somebody said that they were an argument with somebody and the person goes, I have a million dollars.

[417] It's like, okay, buy your way out of this fucking conversation.

[418] Well, if someone calls you a loser, you fucking loser and you're like, well, I'm actually one.

[419] Yeah, there are, no, I'm not saying you should never.

[420] bringing up bringing up having a million dollars like if someone says you broke bitch you broke motherfucker yeah you can't be like I actually have a lot of money yeah so you can't say that yeah there are certain things in which I've succeeded so yeah so you know but the store's been it's fucking it's cool it's magical again yeah well not even that again like I've been there on and off for 20 plus years it's never been as good as it is now no and it's because it's the right way it's Adam's booking good people he's not booking he's not booking like viruses you know what I mean he's not booking people that when you're on the show with him you're like how the fuck am I only getting two spots or how am I only getting four spots and this guy's getting whatever like where you see a guy that just kind of is a bummer comedically like that has no merit that has no merit whatsoever comedically they used to have that because I think there was just a lot of people left over from like the 80s yeah there was some weird a lot of legacy acts yeah that's a good way to put it yeah yeah but now there's like there's young people coming up that are really funny there's guys like Ron White who really established who love hanging out there now Ron's there all the time yeah and it's cool he's like a part of the community now yeah you're there a lot Burr's there a lot jessonick's there a lot Dave when he's in town yes Chappelle Louie and that back bar too god damn we were at the back bar last and I'm like how fun is this place just makes you feel like tingly when you're there yeah you do yeah it feels like you're in a movie about this time yeah yeah yeah it's fucking awesome yeah so so I did the I did that so the ketamine I will say I will I will say I cannot recommend but you recommended for one session I look ketamine as a drug is interesting as fuck the thing that I felt the day I saw you may just been that LSD hangover -like feeling that hangover of like the where you're not hung over but you're not yourself you feel like that that like high -pitched clarity right that like squeak so I can't but beyond that it just became now I complained to the guy and he said you're the only person who's ever felt like this um the the foggass yeah the the the and a little nausea as well um how great of those balls by awesome yeah amazing um this is a wad workout of the day i think they call it wad supernova this is the tiny one there's a little one the big one is actually even better yeah but you stick it on your back yeah sit now oh yeah you can use them on your head ever no oh my head dude you got shit in your head you got muscles in your head you don't even know bro you got muscles you don't even know about bro bro my head is yoked uh bro you got everybody knows that about you my fucking head is ripped i bet you have like weird shit up there um so so yeah so i did the ketamine didn't can't recommend it uh then i tried something called tms which is short for transcranial magnetic stimulation joe i've got a video and it's going to be full frame oh yeah how do i send it uh yeah that's probably the best way oh okay hold on um so uh i've been really interested in this idea of this idea of of stimulation the outside of your brain.

[421] I have to listen to a radio lab podcast called 9 volt nirvana.

[422] Is that the memory one?

[423] No, it's one where they're talking about skill acquisition.

[424] Okay, yeah, that's what I mean.

[425] With the sharpshooter.

[426] Yes.

[427] This is too big to send you.

[428] Oh.

[429] Can we, but if you send it through Google, it'll go to Google Drive.

[430] Oh, yeah, you're right to him with the password.

[431] All right.

[432] All right.

[433] Thank you.

[434] Guys got a mussely head.

[435] Yo, my fucking head.

[436] He knows things.

[437] My head is powerlifting.

[438] I remember when I was a kid, they did this cat scan on marvelous Marvin Hagler.

[439] Marvin Hagler, who was one of the greatest boxers of all time, had very large muscles around his temples, like, extraordinarily large.

[440] Like, not just a little bit bigger than everybody else's, but like two or three times larger than the average person.

[441] Like, essentially he has headier.

[442] You could see, he had veins.

[443] Yeah, he had, like, thick veins.

[444] I remember.

[445] He had head gear.

[446] He essentially had muscle head gear around his temples, like in the side of his head.

[447] And they were like, what in the fuck?

[448] And they didn't know if this was something that was developed from years of biting down on a mouthpiece.

[449] And there's a lot of guys that did a bunch of different exercises for their jaw itself.

[450] Like I remember Jerry Cooney had a thing that he put in his mouth.

[451] It was like a thick rubber cable that had like electrical tape.

[452] wrapped around it and he would bite down on it and he would like you're like lifting weights with his jaw is that shit doesn't make you fear the guy a little bit more like he'll use fucking tape bro he don't give a fuck he's chewing on tape bro lifting weights with his head um all right let me so guys would they were actually lifting weights with their jaw which makes sense i mean you you could power lift with your jaw some guys chewed gum too that was another thing they would do they'd get like a stack of bazooka like that that bubble gum that turns into cement After you chew it for a couple minutes, and they just take that shit.

[453] And which totally makes sense because if your jaw is loose and weak, and if you look at guys with big jaws, like a guy like a Mark Hunt or something like that, David Tula.

[454] A ball on your jaw, you're going to fucking, you're not going to believe how strong, how, like, rough and, like, I have a knot in my jaw right now.

[455] Suck a lot of cock?

[456] Just for, well, not a ton, but enough to get by.

[457] You got to do what you got to do.

[458] You know what I mean?

[459] I want spots.

[460] Whenever I get a massage and then they work your head, I get so excited.

[461] I'm like, yeah, I rub my head.

[462] It feels so good.

[463] My daughter was rubbing my head the other day.

[464] She's like, does this feel good?

[465] I said, actually, that feels really good.

[466] Yeah.

[467] And you immediately become an eight -year -old boy.

[468] Really?

[469] What are you doing?

[470] Oh, my head.

[471] It feels so good to rub my head.

[472] Yeah, it feels good.

[473] It's an area like your feet.

[474] Like, it feels good to get your feet rubbed.

[475] It feels good to get your hands rubbed.

[476] You ever get your hands massage?

[477] Yeah.

[478] You would think that hand's not going to feel good.

[479] Like, you shake someone's hand.

[480] It doesn't feel anything.

[481] But if someone who, like, rubs your hand, they start pulling your fingers and make them pop and stuff, and then they massage your palms and the tips of your fingers and all the little connective muscles and all the tissue in between the fingers.

[482] It feels great.

[483] Yeah.

[484] I need to get a massage.

[485] I haven't gotten a massaging forever.

[486] Really?

[487] You strike me as a guy that would get a massage three years.

[488] I used to get them all the time.

[489] She's been too busy.

[490] It's been a month at least.

[491] Yeah, maybe more.

[492] Maybe two months.

[493] I used to get them all the time.

[494] But I get them, the one I get, I get a guy who does a lot of rolfing.

[495] He uses a metal bar on me. He gets it into my muscle?

[496] My nose.

[497] Yeah.

[498] That's what, rolfing, they go up, apparently they go up your sinuses.

[499] No, I've never seen it.

[500] Bro, they fuck with your brain, bro.

[501] Yo, bro, they massage your fucking brain, bro.

[502] Bro, I'm saying.

[503] Yeah, you can, rolfing, they're supposed to go, all that shit.

[504] Whoa.

[505] Your sinus.

[506] yeah all right coming in coming it's me nervous um yeah so this this TMS thing transcranial magnetic stimulation covered by Blue Cross huh yeah uh so yeah that's what like it's it's it was really really good like I for a lot of my life I felt like I had a all right I had like a I had like a thing like a it almost felt like a metal weight like a bit of like five pound weight on my upper left forehead my left and then so I went to this whoa dude that sound is like an MRI sound yeah that's what it is it is yes it's basically the same exact magnet as an MRI well it's just glued to your head yeah they put it on your head it's pretty simple the first time they measure it they have to get to like the exact spot there's another video where my finger is pulsing that you'll enjoy and what is it doing to you like what's the benefit uh it's basically magnetizing and electrifying a it's waking up basically dead uh synapses according to them really yeah so it's it's waking up dead synapses and uh waking up dead waking them up so they're dormant uh that's what they say um you don't even look into it you're like go ahead shoot me out yeah what is it can i do care me and this at the same time i mean i don't have have kids, man. So I'm like, yeah, I don't give a shit.

[507] Whatever, whatever it's going to cost me, I'm happy to do it.

[508] If you had kids, you think you wouldn't do it?

[509] I think if I had kids, I'd be, like, you know, sort of more, more cautious about it.

[510] Really?

[511] Yeah.

[512] Probably.

[513] Because I'm, I'm not, like, I'm not, like, uh, I do research.

[514] It's also vague anyway, the research.

[515] It's also, like, we think it does this.

[516] Most antidepressants, they know, they think they know what's happening, they don't actually know.

[517] Yeah, that's a weird one.

[518] Yeah.

[519] When you think about how many people are prescribed these things and then there's not really a direct understanding of how it impacts each person, like they'll tell you, hey, we'll try this medication and if it doesn't work, we'll try another one.

[520] Yeah.

[521] Does this one work for you?

[522] We'll just cycle through it.

[523] And how do you know if it's working for you or if you're having a good time in your life and so you're feeling better because maybe you start a new relationship and a new job and it's going well and hey it just everything seems pretty good dude i was on medications that made me nauseous for a year and a half before i was like you know what i literally thought i was nauseous because i was eating too many lifesavers not even fucking kidding literally i was like i got to take it easy on these lifsavers because every night i throw up on the way to the laugh factory and then i realize like you know neal you're taking a pretty high dosage of zolov you might want to just take it down a notch.

[524] That Zolov stuff is supposed to be really weird for your discerning of what matters and what doesn't matter.

[525] Like, it's hard to, I've never done it, so it's hard for me to describe it, but the people that I've talked to that have done it said, one of the issues that they had with it is nothing had, the bad things didn't feel bad anymore, but the good things didn't feel good either.

[526] Well, that's the thing with a lot of antidepressants, is they raise the floor.

[527] And, And they also lower the ceiling.

[528] So that it narrows your band of experience, basically.

[529] Which, but if you're severely depressed, it can be very, like, like ketamine, apparently, is a lifesaver truly for, they may start administering it in, in emergency rooms for suicide cases.

[530] Really?

[531] Yeah, because it does, it's a drug.

[532] I mean, it's a, it's a hallucinogens.

[533] So, you know hallucinogens will make you, like, see things differently.

[534] So they're starting to, at least they're talking about administering it as a, as a sort of almost like a, whatever that drug is that you can do, almost like an epipent for, for, for suicide victims or suicide.

[535] Thought thinkers.

[536] Thinkers.

[537] Yeah.

[538] About to do it.

[539] So yeah.

[540] So the TMS transcranial magnetic stimulation, half an hour of that, of that debt, that debt, dead, dead, dead, dead.

[541] that that doesn't feel like much feels like a like a shitty woodpecker like a fucking sleepy woodpecker is sort of going at your head but you're not like hey get out of here well you're just kind of like okay okay how much longer and you just sit there and watch TV and how many times you do it I do it 40 times four zero four zero times half an hour and how deep are you in right now I'm done I finished it 40 yeah I did all 40 in the fall Wow.

[542] And I'm telling you, it lasted.

[543] And you can go back for, for, like, sort of pick -me -ups whenever you feel like you need it.

[544] So I'm telling you, like, this is the thing that has worked best for me. Better than ketamine.

[545] Way, better than Zoloff.

[546] Really?

[547] I was on, what's an SSRI, a strategic, selective serenotone, re -uptake inhibitor.

[548] And went off it.

[549] I did this magnet shit.

[550] So you're off everything?

[551] Yeah.

[552] Wow.

[553] And you feel great.

[554] Yeah.

[555] Just no joy.

[556] Well, no joy.

[557] But that's not what's...

[558] If you never had it, you didn't lose nothing.

[559] I just look at you.

[560] You guys have fun.

[561] I'll be over here with no joy.

[562] Yeah, but I'm not miserable.

[563] And I'm not also, there's no physical manifestation.

[564] That's the biggest thing.

[565] The head thing, the feeling like there was a plate on my head.

[566] Mm -hmm.

[567] Getting rid of that was really, really, really great.

[568] So when you say like a plate on your head, like there was a pressure?

[569] Yeah, I have a little weight, a little weight and a little pressure.

[570] Did you get nervous?

[571] There were something in there?

[572] No, because there were times where I'd go off of antidepressants and I'd have my jaw muscles and muscles in my temple would be so tight that I'd need to use like a massager on them.

[573] So I knew that there was all, it was all sort of connected.

[574] You got your ding on.

[575] Is that?

[576] Yeah.

[577] Pretty sure.

[578] Bro, is that my ding?

[579] Unless it's me. Might have been your ding, bro.

[580] Might be me, bro.

[581] Yep.

[582] Yeah, it was your ding.

[583] Fuck, how dare you.

[584] So, so that was a big one.

[585] That was really helpful.

[586] Then I did, I was in New York for a couple months, did that show three mics, which I think I talked to the premise.

[587] Yeah, you told me, but say it on here.

[588] So the premise is, on stage, I put three mics, equidistant, apart from each other.

[589] one is for stand up one is for one liners that i just couldn't fit anywhere and then one is for true sort of emotional confessiony type shit talking about depression talking about uh shit with my dad um like the sort of the i won't spoil the surprise but pretty heavy shit between me and my dad when he died or right before he died and and then the and then the and then the second monologue is about um kind of about like celebrity and and and dealing with with having a partner and then breaking up and become my own guy and all that shit um so it's basically like it ends up being probably 40 minutes of stand up 45 of stand up and a half hour of true stories and then five minutes of one -liners and did you do it after you had completed your treatment i did it yes i did it after yeah and in the middle of it i actually stopped taking everything In the middle of recording or practicing?

[590] In the middle of, no, in the middle of the run.

[591] I had a eight -week run, I think, in New York.

[592] And I stopped everything in the middle of it.

[593] Not like suddenly, just like, I don't think I need it.

[594] Wow.

[595] Yeah.

[596] Now, what's the difference when you get off medication?

[597] What was the difference in the way your brain was functioning?

[598] I can almost tell how well my brain's functioning.

[599] If I'm not depressed or not slowed down by depression, my associations are much quicker like if you're just like the most simplest thing of like that guy looks like so and so like sort of a little roast like a little like what is that shirt fucking looks like the kind of shirt you like if I'm not depressed I can think of those quickly if I'm depressed there are times where I'd get depression would affect my memory where I couldn't remember the test I would always do in my head is there's a guy who directed gone with a win the Wizard of Oz back to back.

[600] Yeah.

[601] And I would try to remember his name.

[602] His name's Victor Fleming.

[603] But if I was depressed, I couldn't remember it.

[604] Like, it affects your fucking...

[605] Do you think it's a resource thing?

[606] Like, your brain is so concentrating on the depression and feeling like shit that just doesn't have the resources?

[607] I think it...

[608] I tend to think it's more a dead synapse thing.

[609] Hmm.

[610] And I think it's a...

[611] I think it's an energy...

[612] I think depression is a lack of energy.

[613] the brain.

[614] And maybe you're right.

[615] Maybe it is, it's all going to one place, but that's my own personal interpretation of it.

[616] Well, that makes sense in that way, in that definition, that aerobic exercise would benefit people that have depression because they say that it's particularly running and long form aerobic exercise.

[617] It does something to stimulate brain growth.

[618] Yeah.

[619] And brain function.

[620] They also say like, if you want to remember something, there was a thing last week or two weeks ago about memory where if you want to you should study then exercise hmm and you'll you'll have a better memory mm that makes sense you'll you'll you'll remember the shit you had you you're you uh studied for me there's nothing like physically writing something down with a pen yeah I think there's something to that too yeah like where you see because it is like two senses mm -hmm you're hearing it in your head it's three you're hearing it in your head you're seeing it with your eyes and you're actually physically forming the thoughts yeah and I actually do say the words out too when I write something down like a slave say it like a slave you'll write it down you go like and then like an illiterate person you'll be like and then slave I was like a slave actually weren't allowed to write uh like and then I went to the store that's that slave no reading no writing you're trying to keep them from getting smart well I had the thought yesterday black people probably didn't wear eyeglasses until they didn't they weren't they couldn't there was no do you know what I mean like right nobody tested them certainly not bifocals yeah yeah they weren't being tested for vision yeah it's you think about it for a second and you you can only all you can do is do a loud exhale yeah we've been talking about perspective recently a lot it's come up a few times about how insane like yesterday we're talking about slavery we're talking about the Confederate war the Civil War rather than the Confederate flag and we We were just talking about how insane it is that slavery was 1865, it was abolished.

[621] Like, that is, that's, that's a week ago.

[622] Yeah.

[623] And you also think it ended immediately, it didn't fucking end immediately.

[624] No. It ended like, hey, see you're, hey, guys, we're going to, it's like at the club where they turn the lights on.

[625] There's still people, there's stragglers, there's people that don't want to leave.

[626] There was also, then it just shifted over to sharecropping, which was like, yeah, it's subsistence farming.

[627] You can, you're still going to live here.

[628] A lot of people were sharecroppers.

[629] I read a book called Some of my best friends are black Which seems ironic that I would read that book But it's about integration Right because some of your best friends are black Yeah ironic But it's about integration I should say And it's written by a guy named Tanner Colby Who's gonna, it's an insanely white name That's about as white as it gets Literally off the charts Like if you were going to build a white name It would be Tanner Colby He's always wearing a golf shirt No he might as well be But he really went deep into integration.

[630] What was interesting was, I highly recommend the book, but he said, when you think about integration, your resistance, you go, yeah, white people didn't want it.

[631] Black people didn't want it either.

[632] Black people are like, we don't want to hang out with those motherfuckers.

[633] Like, these, like, black people didn't trust white people any more than white people trusted them.

[634] Like, it was a mutual suspicion.

[635] At least black people had a case.

[636] White people had no case.

[637] Other than I think white people, a lot of racism is basically white people fearing Carmic Retribution.

[638] I think when, I think fear of black people is like, there's a karma coming at me. Like, it's almost like too black.

[639] And you think like, if they did something to me, I kind of have it coming historically.

[640] So let me just kind of like ease.

[641] Even if you don't have it coming, they can make the argument.

[642] Yeah.

[643] And it's not a long argument and it's a good argument.

[644] So that was interesting, and again, I think I've talked about it.

[645] Maybe I haven't talked about it here.

[646] One of the biggest proponents of integration and ending redlining, you know about redlining?

[647] Redlining was a thing where banks would only give loans to people who lived, they would circle lines on maps.

[648] They'd circle neighborhoods and go, if you live in that neighborhood, you can't get a loan.

[649] And guess whose neighborhoods they circle, black people.

[650] So black people couldn't move.

[651] and the biggest, the guy who ended it was Mitt Romney's dad.

[652] Well, how about, yeah, well, how about Baltimore?

[653] Where Baltimore, they had literal areas of the town where they would not sell to black people.

[654] Yeah, that's still, they can't, you can't, unless, what do you have, cash?

[655] You can't move.

[656] They literally can't fucking move.

[657] You could buy within that neighborhood, but you just, for the most part, couldn't get loans no matter what you did.

[658] And isn't it ironic that in a lot of those neighborhoods, the saving grace, financially is white people gentrifying the neighborhoods and making them like super rich again yeah that's the saving grace and that's saving grace for people that were lucky enough to buy right which has happened more that's happened a fairly good amount but it's not for the neighborhood yeah for the renters it's right it's they're getting pushed out yeah so it's like look you wanted the neighborhood to be worth something again yeah yeah but we can't afford it yeah and people are buying up these houses and redoing them and then selling them for shit loads of money well benson her which was always like this horrible neighborhood.

[659] Bensonhurst is like over that's going through this wave of gentrification now.

[660] Oh, Brooklyn's going through it.

[661] Like the entire borough is going through it.

[662] Except like the poor, the poor Italian neighborhoods are pretty much the same.

[663] Hmm.

[664] But, but yeah, like the whole.

[665] Bedstai.

[666] Yeah.

[667] Bedstye, Fort Greene.

[668] Like Bensonhurst.

[669] And those those into those those those, those are the ones that we always associated with like that deep Italian racism.

[670] Spike Lee, racism.

[671] The baseball bat racism.

[672] Yeah, exactly.

[673] Spike, the wife -beater baseball bat.

[674] Real good Italian racism.

[675] Good, real Italian with sauce.

[676] Yeah.

[677] With the fucking ragu.

[678] The real stuff.

[679] Yeah.

[680] With man a goat.

[681] Did you ever do stand -up in those areas?

[682] I did stand -up in Bensonhurst once.

[683] No. Yeah, there was a gig out there.

[684] God, I'm trying to remember where it was.

[685] But it was, I mean, I might as well have been a spot.

[686] in a Spike Lee movie.

[687] Yeah, I'm sure, did they like you?

[688] I think at the time they did.

[689] Did you...

[690] It's hard to remember.

[691] Play it up.

[692] Did you...

[693] Not like you play it up, but did it feel like...

[694] Well, you could pass for Italian.

[695] Are you Italian?

[696] I am Italian.

[697] Oh, there you go.

[698] That's why you pass for it.

[699] I'm...

[700] I have one quarter Irish, but most of it is Italian.

[701] Yeah, you seem Italian.

[702] Like, you look Italian.

[703] I mean, that the nicest possible way, why, Joe.

[704] Well, when I went to Italy recently, I was like, okay.

[705] Now I see what's going on.

[706] Those are some talking motherfuckers, huh?

[707] Oh, yeah.

[708] They talk up a story.

[709] But what was interesting is my driver, we got a cab, and the driver was fucking hilarious.

[710] And not intentionally, hilarious in that this guy could not stop staring at women.

[711] He would, like, hit the brakes to look at them better.

[712] Oh, look at the, oh, geez.

[713] Catcalling was invented by Italian dudes, basically.

[714] They're pigs.

[715] I mean, in the most beautiful way.

[716] Like, it's kind of, like, hilarious that this guy, I mean, he knew he wasn't going to get to fuck these women.

[717] But in his mind, like, you had to slow down.

[718] You're gonna stick your head out the window.

[719] Hey, look this fucking girl with the fucking thing.

[720] Yeah.

[721] Yeah, and they whistle and they, hey, mama, bumina.

[722] But they're so, they so stare.

[723] They're like staring at these women.

[724] There's this framed poster that I have on my wall at home.

[725] It's an American girl in Italy.

[726] And all the dudes are whistling in the background.

[727] And they're grabbing their dicks.

[728] Yeah, the best.

[729] And it's like 1954.

[730] And I remember looking at that when I was a kid thinking, wow, this lady in this photo is probably like, 100 years old now, right?

[731] Or dead, more likely dead.

[732] But, like, these guys, like, this isn't, this isn't, like, something they learn from watching the Sopranos.

[733] Like, here it is.

[734] This is the photo.

[735] Yeah, no, I know it well.

[736] Absolutely.

[737] That guy grabbing his dick.

[738] And look at the old man who's got his arms inside, the jacket.

[739] The jacket's just thrown over his shoulders.

[740] Uh -huh.

[741] This is a fucking good over here.

[742] A couple guys sharing a nice, a nice vesp on the right side.

[743] The guy in the scooter.

[744] By the way, I'm fucking poor of this.

[745] Not the finest broad we've ever seen, either.

[746] Well, it's hard to tell because she's got this look in her face like, oh, my God.

[747] Yeah.

[748] Oh, my God.

[749] Yeah, I guess.

[750] I guess it's all relative.

[751] Yeah.

[752] But it's just that it's a girl by herself walking past his cafe and all these pigs.

[753] There is this weird thing in their harassment, which is like a maternal respect to it.

[754] You know what I mean?

[755] It's like, I, you're beautiful like my mama.

[756] So that's like That's like built into it Whereas American harassment doesn't really have that Whereas Italian harassment There's a certain little fucking Little maternal like Hey mama my sweet mama Because those guys There was a big thing a few years ago In 60 minutes Where Italian guys don't move out So it'll be in their mid 30s And their moms don't want them to move out They don't want to move out They're like I don't I may not get married No one can compare it to mama This is Italian guys in Italy Italian guys in Italy yeah But that's always been an issue Italian guys in the East Coast too That live in America Yeah Yeah well they got it from From their From would you ever live in Italy Do you think?

[757] Go on Fuck that place Go on No no Well first of all I can't speak Italian And I don't have enough time I mean I just didn't Not really interested Second of all Did you like the lifestyle Though I guess my question I loved being there I love it I don't need to like live somewhere to experience it for a week or so.

[758] I think we were there for eight days.

[759] It's beautiful, man. Like, we went to the Malfi Coast.

[760] Holy shit, is that pretty?

[761] Yeah.

[762] Pretty.

[763] And I think the Vatican, the Vatican is a life -changing experience.

[764] Go on.

[765] Why do you say that?

[766] It's immense.

[767] Oh, it's hilarious.

[768] First of all, they have a 4 ,000 -year -old obelisk in the center of the town.

[769] Yeah.

[770] I mean, you look at some of the artifacts and some of the stuff that they've collected there.

[771] There's so much shit there that it's just laying around.

[772] Stuff that would be under two inch thick glass in America.

[773] You could walk up and touch it.

[774] Their, like, new shit would be our oldest shit.

[775] It's amazing.

[776] Yeah.

[777] And it's amazing.

[778] There was a church.

[779] I remember in Rome, I used to go there pretty often because I was dating a girl to live there.

[780] That's a long distance relationship.

[781] Yeah, that sure is.

[782] It wasn't that serious, Joe.

[783] But, no, I remember she used to wear dating and air quotes.

[784] Yeah, I don't know how it was like this.

[785] I knew a girl.

[786] I knew a girl.

[787] We were dating.

[788] Yeah, I knew a girl over in Rome, and, no, she just telling me, yeah, they have a piece of Jesus' cross.

[789] And it was, like, believable.

[790] Do you know what I mean?

[791] Like, I don't even think they made a big deal out of it.

[792] Like, there weren't a ton of signs about it.

[793] Like, that would be, like, a huge attraction.

[794] That would be, like, the number one attraction in certain states in America.

[795] Well, there's a church in Ethiopia that is purported to contain the lost, Ark of the Covenant.

[796] And they know where the church, and they have the Ark of the Covenant?

[797] Well, this is what it's weird.

[798] The people that guard this church, they all have like cataracts and shit.

[799] And it's a very strange thing.

[800] This is all from Graham Hancock's book where it's one of the first things that got him into this idea of like lost civilizations and that the idea that people had come up with like some pretty high level of sophistication in in their societies, but then the societies would crumble, either due to natural disasters or war or whatever, and then they would have to sort of rebuild civilization.

[801] But he was investigating this one church in Ethiopia where the people that guard this church in Ethiopia, it's like a very specific sect, and they won't allow anyone to get into the sacred areas of it.

[802] And the speculation was that somewhere inside that church is the lost Ark of the Covenant and that the reason why these people have cataracts and the reason why these people have all these issues like health issues, it could possibly be that what's in that lost Ark of the Covenant is some sort of a toxic element, whether it's nuclear or whether it's chemical or whether it would stand to reason if you watch the end of the Lost Ark. That makes those guys faces melt, right?

[803] Sure does.

[804] I don't know what could be substantiated, if anything, about that.

[805] Make your face melt unless you close your eyes, you know, like one of those things.

[806] Or, well, look, if someone came up with some sort of a nuclear reactor, you know, there was a kid that got arrested.

[807] I'm going to close my eyes if there's a nuclear blast and just hope for the best.

[808] That's a move.

[809] It's like when Bugs Bunny would jump out of an airplane right before it hit the ground.

[810] That's exactly right.

[811] But there was a kid that they found, I forget where he was.

[812] but he was building a nuclear reactor in his fucking backyard.

[813] I want to say he was 17.

[814] Yeah.

[815] And someone found it, somehow or another they found it.

[816] They're like, um, what the fuck are you doing?

[817] Yeah.

[818] But if this kid can do that in 2016, the idea is if there was some sort of super highly advanced lost civilization that had reached an incredible level of sophistication when it came to, you know, the ability to manipulate matter and possibly even come up with some sort of a reactor and that that was what the Ark of the Covenant was.

[819] That's why it was so sacred and fascinating because they realized it had an immense power.

[820] But that power was probably like some sort of a small reactor.

[821] That would be cool, I hope.

[822] Wouldn't that be cool?

[823] Be crazy if they found it being true.

[824] Well, they know for sure that they've found batteries.

[825] They found batteries in Baghdad and I believe in some of the ancient Egyptian sites that what it is is a very ancient sort of method of creating a battery.

[826] That's 100 % confirmed.

[827] That I believe.

[828] Yeah, and that's confirmed.

[829] They know that they did come up with something and they, you know, they figured out a way to use that battery.

[830] There it is right there.

[831] That's the Baghdad battery.

[832] Oh, yeah, that makes sense.

[833] How old?

[834] That's old as fuck.

[835] I want to say, I want to say it's at least three or four thousand years old.

[836] Find out how old that fucker is.

[837] Let's guess.

[838] I say it's four thousand years old.

[839] Three thousand.

[840] I'm going to go three.

[841] I'm going to go two.

[842] Two?

[843] Two thousand?

[844] Hmm.

[845] Let's see.

[846] What does it say?

[847] No?

[848] Well, they must be able to carbon date it, right?

[849] 1930.

[850] They found it in the 1930s?

[851] Hmm.

[852] So did say how old it is?

[853] That's all I want to know.

[854] Yeah.

[855] Speculation?

[856] What is it?

[857] Speculation.

[858] Some believe.

[859] That it was, hmm, doesn't say age, supporting elements, battery, hypothesis, nothing?

[860] See if you can find it.

[861] But see if you can find, actually, before you see if you can find that, see if you can find the thing about the guys who guard the Ark of the Covenant in Ethiopia.

[862] Because apparently these monks that guard it, they all have fucked up eyes.

[863] That was one of the things that Graham Hancock thought was like super disturbing when he started investigating it.

[864] He was like, why these guys have all cataracts and shit?

[865] What's happening?

[866] But if somebody can come up with a battery, obviously there's a big step between a battery and some sort of a reactor.

[867] But if this kid in his fucking backyard is building a reactor, who knows?

[868] They had enough, a high level of sophistication.

[869] They had a high enough level of sophistication where they were able to construct the pyramid.

[870] Look at the great pyramid.

[871] It's an incredible piece of engineering.

[872] 2 ,300 ,000 stones.

[873] All cut so precisely, you can't get a razor blade in between the rocks.

[874] I mean, especially if you look in, like, the king's chamber.

[875] How high up at the pyramid do you think you needed to be to get pussy?

[876] Do you know what I mean?

[877] Like, is there stairs?

[878] No, but I'm saying in terms of, no, in terms of like what you did, what your position was.

[879] Oh, that's another one.

[880] I'm on the pitch.

[881] I got an office on the eighth floor of the pyramid.

[882] I don't want to hear this.

[883] My office is up at the point.

[884] No, but do you know what I mean?

[885] So, like, if you worked on the...

[886] Builders probably didn't.

[887] That probably...

[888] Although, I don't know how, what the...

[889] If jobs were considered a big deal back then.

[890] They used to think they were slaves.

[891] They don't think they're slaves anymore.

[892] They stopped thinking they were slaves about a decade ago, I think.

[893] When they uncovered some of the little camps that the people used to live in, and by the food that they were eating, and by the quality of the clothes and the plates, they think they were skilled workers.

[894] They don't think they were slaves.

[895] And which makes sense, because you're talking about something.

[896] that if you two million three hundred thousand stones i think the way they described it was if you cut in place 10 stones a day it would take you 664 years yeah so how long do they think it took they weigh between two and 80 tons they don't know they don't know how long it took but they know that it was constructed somewhere in the neighborhood of 2 500 bc based on carbon dating so they don't even know who exactly which pharaoh built it like this they're They get real weird with, like, what they go on in terms of, like, what's the evidence that someone made this?

[897] Or, like, one of them is the Sphinx, the way they decided to attribute the Sphinx to one guy where there's a passage that it says that he, it came to him in a dream that if he uncovered the Sphinx, that he would be the Pharaoh.

[898] He would become the Pharaoh of Egypt, if he uncovered it.

[899] and so the speculation by the people that are sort of backdating history is that the sphinx could have entirely been covered in sand it could be incredibly ancient because when Napoleon found it it was covered in sand when when people found it in the 1800s is actually photographs of it before they had dug it out and excavated it actual is the thing is the thing supposedly it's true somebody fucked the nose up yeah whether it was Napoleon or one of his crew that's I don't know if they know that for sure i know they do know that the nose and the face are different from the original nose and face the original face they think was an was a lion well that's amazing like just people's love of faces like there's a human you've ever heard i feel like i've talked about it where there was a they they put uh monkeys it's like it's a it's a defense of like star power and charisma they put uh monkeys in in a lab they gave them the option of um Unlimited, cherry -flavored juicy juice, or they could watch video of the leader of their pack.

[900] And they chose watching video of the leader of the pack.

[901] Wow.

[902] Yeah.

[903] It's this thing in human beings, like needing kind of gods, needing some sort of pillar or needing something to like...

[904] It also speaks to just charisma.

[905] Isn't it possible also, though, that what they really need...

[906] needed is to get the fuck out of that cage and that the leader of their pack on a video maybe like let them know like maybe someone's going to let me out of here maybe just pay attention maybe yeah but that's also something to like there's something about certain people you just like watching hmm like there's a certain element it's charisma charm whatever you want to say like certain people that you see them and you're like it's the definition of charisma is you want to say yes before you know what the question is and and monkey these monkeys got it joe they got back they got this they got this they got the eight factor oh yeah they fucking got that thing they got this thing well that that that sort of makes sense when you think about kings and pharaohs and the fact that there's always been this alpha character there's always been this one ruler for pretty much every civilization every single city every single state, every single country, always has that one charismatic leader that stands in front of the people and lifts his hands up and everybody cheers.

[907] Well, that's the thing that people underestimate, and I don't think we should talk about Trump for a long time, but that's, he's got a lot of charisma.

[908] Say what you want about the guy, he's got a ton of charisma.

[909] He's got a weird kind of charisma.

[910] Yeah.

[911] He's got like this mean guy charisma where you want him to like you, so you say things that you don't even believe.

[912] Yeah, because you want him to like think that you're on.

[913] on his side so he won't come after you.

[914] It's like a bully charisma.

[915] Yeah, that's absolutely right.

[916] But it's charisma nonetheless.

[917] Like that's the, and that's the thing about stars and movie stars and stuff like that is like, you're watching this guy, you watch Denzel Washington waiting for him to snap.

[918] He never does, but you can tell he's going to.

[919] He just doesn't.

[920] It's like Robert Downey Jr. I feel like with Robert Downey Jr., you're watching a guy not do cocaine.

[921] Yeah.

[922] He wants to do everything in him wants to do cocaine.

[923] So you're watching a guy not actively not do cocaine from second to second.

[924] That's such a good analysis.

[925] Yeah.

[926] That's so true.

[927] You're just watching this guy, this thing, this car accident that never happens.

[928] Yeah, you're watching a guy struggle slightly with sobriety.

[929] Yes.

[930] You're watching a guy almost, you see it on him.

[931] It's kinetic.

[932] He's just got a little bit of uncourt.

[933] And that little bit allows him to be like snarky and weird and get away with it.

[934] Yeah, because Daddy didn't get his medicine.

[935] Wow.

[936] But you could almost do that with a lot of dramatic stars.

[937] Comedy stars less so.

[938] But there's something about Tom Cruise that's that.

[939] Oh, yeah, for sure, right?

[940] Like, you're just watching.

[941] I don't know if he's, he's not going to snap.

[942] He's almost going to, like, fly away or something.

[943] Well, he'll snap if you talk about, like, psychiatric drugs.

[944] Yeah.

[945] Like, he would snap.

[946] Shields.

[947] Yeah.

[948] Matt Lauer.

[949] You're glib, Matt.

[950] That was amazing.

[951] That was a perfect example of why really big time movie stars should not have podcasts.

[952] You're 100 % right.

[953] You're absolutely right.

[954] But it's also a testament to his charisma that he said that and we're still like, ah, fuck it.

[955] We need him.

[956] I need him to be a movie star more than I need him to agree with me about religion yeah he bounced back but what's really interesting is what he bounces back on like he's most successful is these wackadoo fucking science fiction movies that's where he's done the best since that the the day after tomorrow thing or the whatever that one was yeah whatever the edge of tomorrow beginning what is it there's two of them he did two of them he did two he did like one the mission impossible are the ones that those are his brit and butter at this point yeah that too yeah that's true but that's true but that's That Ed to Tomorrow movie was a good movie.

[957] Fucking very good.

[958] Yeah.

[959] You know, it was a really good movie, and I don't know if you're...

[960] Deadpool.

[961] Do you see Deadpool?

[962] Yes.

[963] I couldn't fucking believe how much I love Deadpool.

[964] I saw it on an airplane.

[965] Me too.

[966] And it kept cutting out, and it was still excellent.

[967] Yes.

[968] Like, I'm not going to say it was perfect, but there were some...

[969] Moment to moment, it was as good a movie as I can remember.

[970] Yeah, for a superhero movie, that's probably as good as it gets.

[971] Yeah, I totally agree.

[972] Yeah, that was a really good movie.

[973] Yeah, it was very, very...

[974] pleased with that movie because I had no expectations yeah and at the end he still gets to bang the girl so there you go the way they bang that banging montage was great and then him putting up a picture what's his name fucking his face yeah it's just like that's really fun like it's like where they let writers write well mm -hmm like yeah just that's a funny idea so we'll just do that well I saw Ghostbusters I didn't see it and I like which I feel awful about there's some funny shit in Ghostbusters.

[975] Like, overall, it's not a good movie.

[976] It's just not a good movie.

[977] But they did some funny shit.

[978] They came up with some funny.

[979] And I almost want to know, like, man, what could this have been if you let whoever came up with all that funny shit?

[980] Just make a movie out of it.

[981] Were they scenes or were they, was it dialogue?

[982] Scenes and dialogue.

[983] There was scenes in, it was such a combination of things that movie.

[984] And it so had the feeling of the hands of the producers and the executives.

[985] It's so had a feeling.

[986] Well, that's what you, you, in some ways, the thing I liked about Deadpool was I was watching it going, the producers of this movie did a good job where they were like, this moment doesn't work, make it work.

[987] Right.

[988] They like micromanaged.

[989] Like, I worked on Chris Rock's movie, top five a little bit, like for a couple, I just consulted for a couple weeks.

[990] And the producers, this guy named Scott Rudin, who's like a famous producer.

[991] And what I couldn't believe was the level of detail that guy was worried about.

[992] It was he busted Chris's balls for a year about the script, literally made him rewrite and rewrite and rewrite and rewrite and rewrite and rewrite and then on set, the guy was worried about shirts and buttons and that's what I realized like, okay, these Deadpool producers, whereas it feels like maybe on Ghostbusters it got, you got to get, you have to get lucky too with studio where they, they, they, you all haven't agreed to set of, of what's good.

[993] And then you build the movie from there.

[994] Well, it's also, there's a problem that the movie had a very clear agenda to be a pro -woman movie.

[995] Which it gets, I mean, there's nothing wrong with being pro -woman, but if that's what you're trying to do.

[996] It's like, it's a goofy, it's not a theme for a movie, a comedy movie.

[997] Well, all the men are buffoons.

[998] They're not just buffoons.

[999] They're cartoonishly retarded.

[1000] Yeah.

[1001] Like Chris, whatever the fuck's name is Thor.

[1002] Thor is so retarded, it doesn't even make sense.

[1003] Yeah, he's so fucking stupid.

[1004] It doesn't make sense, but they keep him around because he's beautiful and that's like the joke.

[1005] Well, that's a funny, but I like these revenge jokes where it's like, so you're just going to do what men did.

[1006] How long is this going to last?

[1007] Like, what's the next, which is easy for a man to say.

[1008] Like, hey, do something else, honey, but like, but it just feels like there's got to be like a next, a next, uh, there's a lot of like retribution right now.

[1009] That's a lot of what Twitter is.

[1010] It just wasn't believable.

[1011] A lot of what Twitter is how it's.

[1012] It's a lot of.

[1013] It's a lot of.

[1014] It's a lot of.

[1015] It's a lot of.

[1016] It's a lot of.

[1017] It's a lot of.

[1018] It's a lot of.

[1019] It's a lot of.

[1020] It's a lot of.

[1021] It's a lot of.

[1022] It's a lot of.

[1023] It's a lot of people it's like digital lynch mobs of people and that are rightly so they'll go after people for saying something fucked up about race like they went up to Justin Timber like a few weeks ago because he said something more all the same and then it's like but what you can't say that and it just becomes this mob of people and it's purely about racial revenge as far as I'm concerned well it's it's definitely about people having the opportunity to shit on somebody and have people that didn't have the opportunity to before yeah and now they have it via they it's like they have social cachet and they have social power and they use it for the same bullshit that white people used it for well it's not even just black people doing it's a lot of white people call women any any any yeah any sort of marginalized group whether it's poor any like literally any group but this movie like this is there's a bunch of problems of the movie.

[1024] But this, the, the fact that all the men in the movie were ridiculous, all the men in this movie were buffoons, all the men in the movie, like they, like Bill Murray gets fucking killed in it, spoiler alert.

[1025] Yeah.

[1026] I mean, it, it's weird.

[1027] It's weird.

[1028] It's like, it's an agenda -driven movie more than they wrote something.

[1029] They figured, well, it'll work if you do this or it'll work if you do that.

[1030] Like, they didn't even have romantic interests in the movie because men were just so retarded Yeah Like the women didn't have boyfriends They didn't have husbands They didn't have Like they had Chris Helmsworth Yeah But that's it And he was just eye candy Well the thing I always tell people is When you're writing about a specific gent Like for a long time Women in comedy Women in comedy movies were Props or they were like Andy McDowell Always used to be like the love interest Andy McDowell And she was always just like this warm sort of like vaguely disapproving it's either like you're disapproving of the guy or you're approving to a fault because that's if you're if there's a movie about a certain uh gender which is it was usually men the women in their lives for the plot to advance they'd either have to be for the plot or against the plot right so then women started complaining like well you see us as these binary goofy things and obviously women in life are more complex than that so so now women are starting to get their own movies and it's about groups of women you see it's it's a writing problem it's you're in a trap where the men and bridesmaids were goofy as fuck it was an irish cop in Milwaukee tell me more because i've never seen that my fucking whole life a guy who's just like and bridesmaids is a fucking masterpiece for the most part just that part i was kind of like wait so he's a cop and he's got an endless uh uh uh appetite for wig and even though she's not interested and was a shit and was dicky to him but he's still he'll take her back whatever uh and it becomes about he's basically the only man in the movie and it's kind of a goofy part and it's once because it's about a group of women and that's just the purpose that men have in that plot you know what i mean but they but they always they people take it as like this a sexism thing and i just take it as like a screenwriting thing well it is that definitely but one of the problems that people have found when they're talking about this movie is that you can't criticize it because if you criticize it you're sexist and no it's not it's not a good piece of art yeah there you go it's not really well done yeah but but there's moments in it who did who did bridesmaids that i'm talking about it's like it's same guy who did it he's done well whatever he's done it twice now but like i think he knows he's a really good writer like he knows you can you it's hard to write because it's never been i i always tell me less than I go, show me a good example of a movie about a group of guys where the woman isn't just, even in Deadpool, she's a prop to the, but they make fun of it.

[1031] She's a stripper, she's in love with him unconditionally, even though his face turns into a monster, she still wants them to eat her pussy.

[1032] And they make fun of it, yeah, they make fun of it in a funny way, like their meet up, their meat cute, and then they think about, like, how damage they both are.

[1033] That was like perfect to me, because it was brief, and it's like, the thing they always complain about when you're developing movies.

[1034] It's like, I don't buy this couple.

[1035] It's like, yeah, it's a fucking movie.

[1036] Right.

[1037] Sorry.

[1038] Like, I don't buy a lot of real couples.

[1039] Well, not only that.

[1040] They have to spell it all out in two hours.

[1041] Yeah, and they have to meet and fall in love within five minutes.

[1042] Well, there's a lot more in a relationship than that.

[1043] Yeah, yeah, we can't show you all that other shit.

[1044] Yeah.

[1045] Because that takes hours.

[1046] Yes.

[1047] Days and weeks and months and you fuck.

[1048] That is correct.

[1049] The sad thing about the movie, the Ghostbusters movie, is there's some stuff in it that was really clever.

[1050] There was funny stuff.

[1051] and in the beginning I was enjoying it I was like you know what I bet people are not giving this thing a fair shake and then as it got on and I was like oh they just this is just so clunky yeah there's parts of it they were just so clumsy and just poorly I gotta see it because every single one of those women are fucking home run hitters yeah Melissa McCarthy is fucking funny man she's funny she's funny Christian wig which one's she She was in bridesmaids I don't know I don't know what she was She's the Auburn -haired woman Yeah Yeah And Leslie's a fucking monster She's she's handicapped in it They give her some clunky lines Yeah And then And the girl from S &L Kate McKinnon is really really fun She was really funny in it Yeah She was very funny in it Look it's not that bad I mean I didn't hate it I went to see it my kids They enjoyed it But there was was, there were some moments I laughed pretty hard.

[1052] Great.

[1053] But most of it not.

[1054] Yeah, it's hard to make funny movies, man. And, you know, it's like, at the end, the way they wrap it up, you're like, oh, Christ, get the fuck out of here.

[1055] It's like, it's so clumsy.

[1056] Oh, it's just so awkward.

[1057] Somebody told me there were no stakes in the movie.

[1058] It was just like, yeah, there's ghosts, and we're going to fight them.

[1059] Yeah.

[1060] And we got them.

[1061] Yeah.

[1062] Yeah.

[1063] It was weird.

[1064] It's hot fucking I mean It's hard to do a movie It's really hard It's like really A big budget A big budget movie A big budget with a legacy And a release date Yeah and if they just If there was no Ghostbusters Before it There had never been a Ghostbuster movie And this was the first ever Ghostbuster movie There would not We wouldn't be talking about Ghostbusters It would be different Yeah Well it maybe people would Enjoy it more And maybe they wouldn't be So handicapped Because they had to Sort of connect with the legacy and tie all these loose ends in and they can they can kind of do it any way they want but that's that's really a part whenever you're trying to redo an old movie even if you do a great job like remember Jason Statham redid the mechanic like dude I didn't know that was remake a fucking Charles Bronson movie you didn't know?

[1065] Oh I didn't even know that no oh my god Charles Bronson and that handsome fella from those 70s who went crazy oh god damn it what is his name No, that was another one.

[1066] What is his name?

[1067] Charles Bronson in The Mechanic.

[1068] What is the other?

[1069] He was this really handsome actor who became like a crazy alcoholic.

[1070] He was really huge.

[1071] Jan Michael Vincent?

[1072] I was going to get to Nick Nelson, but he would have been the next one.

[1073] He was really huge back then.

[1074] Like he was beautiful man. That's a goddamn frame right there.

[1075] Look at that hair and those tombstones in the back?

[1076] Bronson.

[1077] Bronson's long of all -time favorites.

[1078] He was great.

[1079] It's what we call graphic right there, Joe.

[1080] Yes, perfect.

[1081] And by the way, no video.

[1082] That's film, ladies and gentlemen.

[1083] That's organic.

[1084] It's American.

[1085] Back then, when they would do a movie like this, too, I mean, like, you didn't get that many movies every week.

[1086] It's not like today.

[1087] Jan Michael Vincent played his protege, and Charles Bronson was a hitman.

[1088] You saw this in the theater?

[1089] TV.

[1090] I think I saw it on television the first time.

[1091] It was 1972.

[1092] I don't think I've ever seen a Charles Brownson movie.

[1093] So they're just all revenge movies, right?

[1094] Who the fuck are you?

[1095] This is not a revenge movie necessarily.

[1096] I mean, in some ways it kind of is.

[1097] But death wish is a revenge movie, right?

[1098] Yes.

[1099] Death Wish was a white man's dream.

[1100] The white man is going to go out.

[1101] They raped his daughter or something, a bunch of dark skin people?

[1102] I don't remember exactly what the premise behind it was.

[1103] I don't know who that guy is, but I like it.

[1104] He's interesting.

[1105] But Charles Bronson and Jan Michael Vincent, they had this movie, you know, which was a classic movie at the time.

[1106] And then it was redone with Jason Statham.

[1107] And this other guy who is a really good actor.

[1108] Ben Foster.

[1109] That's his name?

[1110] Ben Foster.

[1111] Who was in that movie 30 Days of Night.

[1112] Did you ever see that movie?

[1113] No, I didn't see that, but he was good in another movie with Woody Harrelson.

[1114] yeah about about Iraq yes I know what you're talking about I don't remember the name he's great in everything that fucking guy he's he's such a good actor there he is all creepy looking um so he played the the Jan Michael Vincent character which is an interesting sort of twist on things it wasn't a bad movie it was a pretty good movie I enjoyed it like as far as like a mindless action movie yeah but you're redoing a fucking Charles Brunton movie man as soon as you try to redo a Charles Bronson movie Do you have any desire for remakes?

[1115] I'm never like oh thank God the remake in it because I just would rather watch the original Yeah Because it contains everything I want Which is the actual movie And then the memories I have of it I like when they remade the Hulk Because they kept doing it like over and over and over again I'm like maybe they'll get it right That's just a funny fucking guy trying a bit That's never going to work But they did it with Eric Banna That was shit That was the super emotional one right That was the Yang Lee one That was like very emotional Yes I got to say I didn't really like The last Avengers Or not the first Avengers Because it just seemed like Like they just It spent the whole movie Just like hey you guys want to Hey you got to come fight And they'd be like No I don't want to No you gotta come Alright I'll come And then they had a big fight at the end But the Hulk one was especially shitty I saw the Avengers Right after I saw Ex Machina Which was one of my all time favorite movies X Machina was very good yeah Incredible So I saw that one week and then I saw the Avengers the next week and I was like this is shit this clunky yeah yeah but homeboy played a way better Hulk what the fuck's his name mark ruffalo ruffalo and then ed Norton did it too or Ed Norton was in the original no he did the second one what is the Holtz deal he just doesn't want to fight he's very strong but he's not interested no is a scientist the scientist was doing an experiment he was exposed to massive levels of gamma radiation, and when he gets angry, you don't want to know him when he's angry.

[1116] I understand.

[1117] I don't want.

[1118] I'm not interested in that, yes.

[1119] Plus, he's angry all the time.

[1120] That's Mark Ruffalo.

[1121] He's seizing.

[1122] Oh, is that true?

[1123] That's the secret.

[1124] Oh, got it.

[1125] Yeah.

[1126] So he's a rageaholic.

[1127] Yeah.

[1128] He just keeps it together and he's, but at any moment, he can just let it go.

[1129] And when he decides to let it go, and he can't control it?

[1130] Because why isn't it just one of these things?

[1131] Like, in the Avengers, it seemed like they were like, hey, come help us with this specific guy.

[1132] And he did.

[1133] Tough to get him to pay attention.

[1134] But that's the premise, right?

[1135] You can't, he can't guide it because it just seems like, hey, Hulk come.

[1136] And he's like, but I don't, you guys are going to make me get angry.

[1137] It seems like a small price to pay.

[1138] Like, yeah, fucking get a little bit angry, guy.

[1139] You're going to need you to save the world, you save the world, you fucking selfish animal.

[1140] Well, when they go to find him the first time he's in, like, Bangladesh, like, working his poverty He was in, yeah, he was in, like, at a, like, a, remember, Save the Children type of place.

[1141] Yes, yes.

[1142] Yeah.

[1143] I feel like I've given money to support whatever the Hulk is working.

[1144] Whatever Dr. Bruce Banner's working.

[1145] And they come and get him with fucking rifles drawn and everything like that.

[1146] Like, didn't you realize, like, you can't do that.

[1147] Like, that violates the whole premise of what he is.

[1148] All he has to do is get mad.

[1149] Just read the dossier.

[1150] Yeah.

[1151] You don't have anything but guns?

[1152] How are you going to stop them?

[1153] Yeah.

[1154] They're like, don't move.

[1155] And like, oh, Jesus, you got me. Yeah.

[1156] You know, you don't have, don't move.

[1157] Oh, don't move, really?

[1158] Don't move?

[1159] What if I fucking move?

[1160] What if I fucking...

[1161] What are they going to do?

[1162] They're going to shoot him before he moves?

[1163] They can't do anything.

[1164] If you have bad news for the Hulk, wait until just the right moment to tell him.

[1165] So you just run you that.

[1166] And also, your wife fucking somebody, and then you're fucking run off.

[1167] Well, maybe that would be the way that you would get him to stop being the Hulk.

[1168] Just give him ecstasy.

[1169] Oh, that's funny.

[1170] Yeah.

[1171] Yeah, just, that's the new treatment for the Hulk.

[1172] Just keep them on very micro doses of ecstasy all day long.

[1173] I know a ketamine guy if you need that.

[1174] I also am a little mad that Loufriigno is not involved because he, to me, was the ultimate Hulk with the ripped jorts, the ripped jeans shorts.

[1175] That is always going to be the problem with the Hulk is how the fuck are those pants still on?

[1176] Yeah, it should be a dick flapping.

[1177] Oh, for sure.

[1178] Mark, look, I can't even wear pants from someone who weighs 20 pounds less than me. Yeah, look at them.

[1179] Just to add to the 70s this brown corduroys.

[1180] That's how we used to do it back then, Joey.

[1181] Brown fucking quarteroys.

[1182] Well, it was supposed to be purple.

[1183] The Hulk always had purple pants.

[1184] Oh, that's interesting.

[1185] For whatever weird fucking, see, it's blue jeans.

[1186] Okay.

[1187] But if you go to the Hulk, like the cartoon Hulk, you'll see that he always had purple pants.

[1188] Green and purple are a better mix than green and brown.

[1189] Watch the Hulk's pants, P -A -N -T -S.

[1190] You've watched pumping iron, right?

[1191] Look at that, see.

[1192] Oh, he's purple.

[1193] Yeah.

[1194] What the fuck is that?

[1195] Yeah, I've seen pumping iron.

[1196] You see the new one, Generation Iron?

[1197] No. No. Good?

[1198] It's on Netflix.

[1199] Yeah?

[1200] It's a banger.

[1201] Really?

[1202] It's a banger.

[1203] It's also got one of my favorite moments in a documentary ever, which if you want to bring it up, and you don't laugh at this, then you're not yourself.

[1204] This is like an alien test.

[1205] Like, no, this is Joe Rogan.

[1206] I believe it's Joe Rogan.

[1207] If you laugh at this.

[1208] Well, now you're setting it up.

[1209] It's a weighted moment.

[1210] There's, I know.

[1211] Is that good?

[1212] It's that good.

[1213] It's the funniest moment I've ever seen in a documentary.

[1214] Really?

[1215] Yes.

[1216] Are you going to spoiler it?

[1217] No, I'm not going to spoil it.

[1218] Should we play it?

[1219] Yeah, if you bring it up on Netflix, I will show you where it is.

[1220] Might not be able to do that.

[1221] It's 54 minutes in.

[1222] I recommend this clip a lot.

[1223] Don't you think the clip is probably on YouTube if it's that strong?

[1224] Maybe.

[1225] What is the...

[1226] Look up Generation Iron Horse.

[1227] Generation Iron Horse scene.

[1228] Separate words.

[1229] interesting i stand by it so is it uh just a new film it's basically yeah it's a new film about bodybuilding all right back it up back it up back it up pause it pause it okay oh fuck you gotta hear the guy set it up go all the way to the back of the clip i don't think it's long enough if you show and if you show me another one the guy talks about you see what it is uh -huh guy riding a horse right if you go back uh to And the thing is He talked about how he never gets injured Okay He's literally talking about I never get injured People say I get injured I wasn't even a real injury And now The past two injuries I've had Well, we're in the gym They were outside the gym So I haven't been hurting the gym Since 2003 Come on Let's go Oh shit The horse is bucking them Oh Son of a bitch Oh The horse just decided enough.

[1230] Yeah, the horse has had enough of him talking about never being injured.

[1231] He's talking about not getting injured and the horse throws him off the fucking horse.

[1232] It's such fucking poetry to me. And he lands hard.

[1233] He lands hard and says, oh, Jesus, as he lands.

[1234] He's so big.

[1235] You would think that guy's like, well, I guess he's kind of protecting a little bit all that muscle.

[1236] Do you see that car accident sculpture?

[1237] Yes.

[1238] Yeah, that's right up rally yeah well explain what you're talking about there's a there was an art installation a so made a sculpture of what the human body would need to look like to withstand a car accident to evolve in order to be able to withstand car accidents and i don't know how the fuck they figure this out though that's one of the weird things i was like why their arm so skinny like that's one one image of it there's because there's nothing important in the arms yeah bones though you're to protect your To protect your brain and your heart.

[1239] Is that what it is?

[1240] Yeah.

[1241] Why does it have nipples?

[1242] Like, what are all those nipples all over the ribcage?

[1243] I think those are like padding.

[1244] Maybe those are nipples.

[1245] Whatever it is.

[1246] Those are like when you first get nipples when you're like when you're What is all that stuff?

[1247] All those weird things?

[1248] What are those things?

[1249] Ridges?

[1250] Isn't it funny that what we look at today when we see a person, we think it's normal?

[1251] Yeah.

[1252] Yeah.

[1253] It's just what we're used to.

[1254] It's just what happened.

[1255] It's just what we are.

[1256] I mean, people are fucking weird looking.

[1257] By the way, they didn't do this guy any favors with the facial hair and the haircut.

[1258] Yeah, it's a weird goatee.

[1259] Like, why?

[1260] Like, he looks extra monkeyish.

[1261] It looks very odd.

[1262] It's really disgusting.

[1263] Yeah, it's a weird choice.

[1264] And also, like, the line to heaven down to his pecker.

[1265] That hair line.

[1266] Yeah.

[1267] It's a weird, weird hair trail.

[1268] Like, what is going on there?

[1269] it looks like a constellation or something like some outer space ship or like a galaxy or like a Tesla coil yeah radiating air yeah it's uh I don't I guess do you have a Tesla you don't no I do not oh you made the observation or maybe it was you or Burr made the observation what if there's a power outage yeah well that's there's that for sure but I drove one for a day and I was shocked at how quick the battery went down oh really yeah I drove I drove from here to my house, to the improv, to my house to here again, and it was more than half dead.

[1270] And how many miles, was it, 80, 100?

[1271] That's not even 60.

[1272] That's too bad.

[1273] Yeah, I mean, maybe 70, 80, maximum, maximum 80, and it was more than half dead.

[1274] So, like, when they say you can go 300 miles without a charge or what are they saying, 250, 250 miles?

[1275] that's under like ideal conditions on the highway 65 miles an hour drafting behind a fucking semi you know it's not like stop and go traffic it's not it's not uh you know just it's not speeding up slowing down yeah it's not lights it's not ready it's not ready i think it's ready i think it's i mean depending on how far you need to go that's half full is still pretty good well sure you could use the average personally drives 35 miles a day yeah I mean, for sure you could use it as a daily driver if you could plug it in every night.

[1276] But it's not ready for me to adopt.

[1277] It's just too limited.

[1278] The fact that it takes so long to recharge, like you can charge in for a certain amount of time, it'll give you like 80 % or the idea that maybe they could swap batteries, you pull into a place, and they take your batteries out and give you new batteries.

[1279] But then you've got to trust that they're connecting the batteries right.

[1280] You've got to trust that the batteries are good.

[1281] You've got to trust who had the batteries before, to anybody drop them or crunch.

[1282] Am, are they going to light my fucking car on fire now?

[1283] Because that was one of the issues they were having with people in the room.

[1284] The Chevy Volt, I have, and there's been no...

[1285] I get 300 miles a gallon.

[1286] I've got...

[1287] That's a hybrid, though, right?

[1288] Yeah.

[1289] What the Tesla's, when they first came out, were developing issues where the underbody would get hit by rocks and would start fires.

[1290] And then, do you remember the Fisker?

[1291] Fisker karma?

[1292] Yeah.

[1293] Do you know how that would killed that thing?

[1294] No, what happened.

[1295] Remember that big storm that hit the East Coast?

[1296] There was a big storm that hit the East Coast.

[1297] East Coast.

[1298] The sandy one?

[1299] Yeah, I think that was a couple years back.

[1300] Destroyed a lot of houses in Long Island.

[1301] Yeah, that was Hurricane Sandy.

[1302] They hit a port.

[1303] The storm hit a port where these things were parked.

[1304] And apparently when they get up to like door height and water, they explode.

[1305] Look at this.

[1306] This is the, see that?

[1307] See all those fires going on over there in the distance across the river?

[1308] That's the transformer.

[1309] That's not the cars.

[1310] That's the transformer.

[1311] That's the transformer on the East Village.

[1312] Is this a different video?

[1313] It's a sendy con ed explosion.

[1314] Oh, you got the wrong?

[1315] But there's one that's like this.

[1316] It's pretty similar.

[1317] Find the video of the...

[1318] Hurricane Sandy fires.

[1319] Maybe I'm wrong.

[1320] Maybe they don't have a video of it.

[1321] See if you can find it.

[1322] Anyway, point being, those things, when you get them wet, they blow up, which is not good.

[1323] No, it's not great.

[1324] People don't like that.

[1325] So that company went under.

[1326] Yeah, I have a vault.

[1327] It's been great.

[1328] That's a good move.

[1329] Like a hybrid is a really good move.

[1330] Because you get like gas and electricity and you can kind of run on both.

[1331] 40 electricity, every charge.

[1332] And I can charge it in four hours for a full charge.

[1333] And pickup's good, drives good.

[1334] I'm not like, I never really need.

[1335] I'm like, the only time I'm using pickup is when I'm driving like a dickhead.

[1336] Right.

[1337] You know what I mean?

[1338] So it's like I try not to drive like that.

[1339] But if I'm cutting people off and doing shit like that, then you need, yeah, I need pickup because I'm an asshole.

[1340] Right.

[1341] But for the most part, I don't need pickup, like, day to day.

[1342] You can only go so fast.

[1343] Well, one of the cool things about a Tesla is the idea of driverless driving.

[1344] That is fucking amazing.

[1345] And I don't blame Tesla at all for the guy dying recently, the one, the autopilot one.

[1346] I think they've determined that autopilot didn't have anything to do with that.

[1347] He was watching Harry Potter.

[1348] He was?

[1349] Yeah.

[1350] It was proven.

[1351] It was still playing.

[1352] It was like Greg Geraldo's joke about rap.

[1353] rappers, watching porn, and they get into an accident, and they're on the side of the road, and the porn is still playing.

[1354] Rappers watching porn?

[1355] I think it was rappers.

[1356] It was people having, everyone on cribs had monitors in their cars.

[1357] Oh, right, right, in their cars.

[1358] And he was talking about if you got into an accident and you're dying, and it's still playing fucking dumb shit on your monitor.

[1359] It's still playing porn?

[1360] Yeah, I think it was porn.

[1361] There was a guy who got killed in Michigan.

[1362] He was jerking off while he was driving, his car flipped.

[1363] He was jerking off to his phone.

[1364] Just wait, man. Yeah, he can't wait.

[1365] His car flipped and he died, and he died with his pants down.

[1366] His phone was still playing the porn when they pulled his lifeless body from the wreckage.

[1367] That's a long clip, by the way.

[1368] More than a dozen Fisker Karma hybrids caught fire and exploded.

[1369] No video, just pictures, I guess.

[1370] So we're wrong.

[1371] So we have false memories.

[1372] God damn it.

[1373] That's what happened with Trump on 9 -11.

[1374] Yes, he was, didn't he help?

[1375] Saw Celebrators.

[1376] Oh, yeah.

[1377] In New Jersey.

[1378] Saw him all the way across the river.

[1379] yeah well some people must have celebrated so what uh i don't think anybody was so i mean i don't think anybody in jersey i'm sure people were like yes but i don't think people were going outside and fucking who knows because that'll get you popped maybe back then they didn't know well no one i mean that's a fucking chaotic moment to be able to predict what's going to happen yeah who did it yeah exactly who knows what was going on then they they didn't know when that first happened yeah i mean they could have been instead of celebrating they could have been just going what Oh, that's crazy.

[1380] Well, you know what's funny is I think when I think I saw it happen, but I was in Paris and I saw like someone said like, I am very sorry what happened to your country?

[1381] And I was like, what are you talking about?

[1382] Like, did the World Trade Center?

[1383] And I'm like, what?

[1384] And then I ran to a monitor and saw some, but in my head, I saw it live.

[1385] But I just didn't.

[1386] Right.

[1387] Do you know what I mean?

[1388] Like that's the faultiness of memories, which is creepy that you can't, it's like, You say shit with absolutely no certainty at this point.

[1389] Memories are very bad.

[1390] Yeah.

[1391] And I have some super clear memories that I can verify, but I've also got a lot of fuzzy ones.

[1392] And the problem is when people start attaching all sorts of emotions and all sorts of different things to memories.

[1393] And then they start distorting them and then repeating the distortion of the memory until that becomes the memory.

[1394] And then in their mind, like there's people that have been involved in business.

[1395] deals and they think that they were so wronged and everything went so terrible and this piece of shit and then my wife left me and then when you break down to them no no no no that didn't happen at all this is what happened like they don't want to hear the real and those are people i think that are a little bit crazy i'm talking about you ever be arguing with your wife and you're like i didn't say that and then you think like did i say that um like especially if you're barely paying attention that's the key long -term relationship keys just got to be able to hit the fade button that they do is that you think that's helpful they drown out and do you think she realizes it what you think she knows that I don't know what you're talking about what you said what you say yeah yeah you just fade out but that's exactly the kind of conversations you start having like what what did you just say what I just lost everything what did you say yeah I said so then we're going to light it all on fire what yeah okay now I have to pay attention yeah what do you got to light on fire who's going to light what on fire yeah but that's the thing about relationships it's all kind of important but none of it's that important in retrospect hindsight but in the day on the second of it's sometimes yeah the most nonsensical thing could be so important yeah yeah so important you have many daughters well my situation is pretty comfortable and easy to manage but i have some friends that have some bad relationships with their wives and it's basically when they get together it's just who's going to win today's wrestling match yeah how many how many people do you know with with marriages that you envy Let's say you weren't married.

[1396] That's a good question.

[1397] Not many.

[1398] Because that's the thing.

[1399] It's like, not many.

[1400] It's, you know.

[1401] Most of them are, it looks, especially from the outside, it looks like way too much work.

[1402] Yeah.

[1403] And it looks like disastrous happenings once it breaks off, which is different than a boyfriend, If a guy and a girl are dating and they just decide to call it off, like this isn't working.

[1404] Yeah.

[1405] That's it.

[1406] Yeah.

[1407] There's very little cleanup.

[1408] Yeah.

[1409] that's it.

[1410] Yeah.

[1411] But if you are some man or some woman even, like a woman who makes a shitload of money and she has a husband's kind of a layabout and then...

[1412] That's starting to happen by the way.

[1413] Fuck, yeah, it is.

[1414] Yeah.

[1415] And then all of a sudden this dude wants a ton of alimony.

[1416] Yeah.

[1417] Like, whew.

[1418] Yeah.

[1419] Like, Jesus Christ.

[1420] And this woman who doesn't even like this guy anymore has to pay him, you know, 10 % or 15 % of her salary every week.

[1421] And she's just like, I can't even believe this.

[1422] like that is always been the case with men and women with the man having to pay the woman it's always it's been alimony's been around forever right child support alimony but now that it's in more and more cases becoming the woman paying the man like talk to rosanne bar about how much he had to pay tom arnold and you're like what yeah this is it's legal it's legalized stealing mixed in with prostitution it's long it's a long con prostitution yeah in in many ways ways and it's involving the legal system and the banks and as soon as there's a system that's set up where people are profiting off that system good luck prying it from their fucking hands yeah and that's the political system that we have right now but it's also the marriage system like if you've talked to someone who's gone through horrific divorces and had to deal with the financial implications or complications it gets insane well that's what buddy mine is like my wife the sad thing is the deal she's going to get, I offered her two years ago, but she's just dragging it out.

[1423] They want to drag it out because it costs your money and legal fees too.

[1424] That's right.

[1425] And you're still connected to them and they're punishing you if you want to get the divorce.

[1426] Even if you don't want to get the divorce.

[1427] There's a reason why they want to get divorce.

[1428] They're mad at you for some shit.

[1429] My friend has to pay his ex -wife for the rest of her life.

[1430] And he has a new wife.

[1431] He has a family.

[1432] He's got kids.

[1433] She doesn't have a new husband, though.

[1434] No. If she has a new husband, then the money cuts off.

[1435] So he has to pay her hundreds of thousands of dollars every single year for the rest of her life.

[1436] It's almost like he fucked her so hard she can't work anymore.

[1437] Yeah.

[1438] Like that's what the court's saying.

[1439] That's what the court was.

[1440] Well, that's what it is.

[1441] It's like how feeble were, I guess, I guess societally, like women had it so much worse in the 70s when these laws were made.

[1442] But it seems like there needs to be some kind of correction.

[1443] You can't have it so that if a guy is married to a woman, he has been not married to her more than he has been married to her.

[1444] He was married to her for like 12 years.

[1445] He's been divorced for like 14, but it doesn't matter.

[1446] He still owes all that money.

[1447] Like because they broke up, he has to pay her because they went past 12 years being married or whatever the number was.

[1448] He has to pay her for the rest of her time on earth.

[1449] like he he might not have any relationship to her he is responsible for her survival forever and not just survival but living really well like that's i guess the question is how important were the women who got these laws passed meaning what do you think you're doing that is entitling you to this money and this goes for men now too because it's like well how good of a husband are you that you deserve half of her income forever Clearly, you weren't that good because shit didn't work.

[1450] Right.

[1451] So there should be a penalty right there.

[1452] There's not.

[1453] I don't think they usually get half forever.

[1454] Or whatever.

[1455] But they get a giant chunk.

[1456] Yeah, a chunk and then a stipend.

[1457] Yeah, they get a monthly payment.

[1458] It's just strange that someone could, like people meet each other and then it doesn't work out anymore.

[1459] They like each other.

[1460] They spend time.

[1461] Then they don't want to spend time.

[1462] And when they don't want to spend time to all of a sudden legally obligate them to send money.

[1463] Like this is not, we're not talking about.

[1464] Someone who by virtue of their relationship could no longer move her body.

[1465] You know, like if a man and a woman gets together, the man has to pay because once a man starts fucking a woman, they eventually go paralyzed.

[1466] It's just how it works.

[1467] I mean, if that was the case.

[1468] Yeah, if that was the case, well, yeah, you have to take responsibility for having sex because the man does something to the woman's body.

[1469] By the way, guys would still claim.

[1470] Like, I didn't even, that wasn't even me, man. Other guys were fucking harder.

[1471] You think I'm the only one.

[1472] You think I could even fuck a woman in fucking into a vegetable.

[1473] Yeah.

[1474] it's it's stealing but it's also like you're cornering a person and forcing them to just get thrust into this weird legal system so this weird legal system it's pulling like as this thing is spiraling down the legal system is pulling money out of it so there's this there's this guy who's earning all this money he works you know 12 hours every day he's constantly hustling and doing deal and this and that, and he's putting it all together.

[1475] And while he's getting divorced to this woman, they're going through the court system.

[1476] And the court system in this two -year fight is spinning this whole thing back and forth, and you need to get more, ma 'am, because you have to consider his earning potentials can increase over the next few years.

[1477] And it wouldn't have happened if you weren't around.

[1478] I mean, your stability and the relationship is part of the reason why he had the confidence to pursue these business deals, and you should be compensated for it.

[1479] Well, that's what I wonder, who were these wonderful people?

[1480] Lawyers.

[1481] Lawyers.

[1482] No, I know, but who was the woman that they could hold up as like, well, you did this, therefore, blah, blah, blah.

[1483] Like, what was my testimony?

[1484] My theory is that, well, first of all, you know, lawyers, a lot of them get a percentage.

[1485] Yeah.

[1486] So I think there's that.

[1487] I think there's...

[1488] Also, and they make the laws.

[1489] Yeah.

[1490] Well, they definitely...

[1491] Or argue the laws, for sure.

[1492] There's a strong benefit to there being an extreme financial consequence for getting divorced.

[1493] A strong benefit to the people that profit from taking people to divorce court.

[1494] So, and by the way, that benefit doesn't exist like the other way.

[1495] Like, if your lawyer saves you a fuckload of money, he doesn't get a percentage of what he saves you.

[1496] Yeah.

[1497] But if the lawyer on the other side, if they can figure out a way to get the court to rob you, like, and you've got to give your wife $50 million or something like that.

[1498] Like, that lawyer gets a chunk of that.

[1499] Like, he gets paid if he's successful.

[1500] They're incentivized for the lot of money.

[1501] Right, to attack the rich guy, to attack the man or the rich woman, the Roseanne Barr situation.

[1502] But that's the way they get the money.

[1503] They don't get the money if you don't get penalized.

[1504] Like if you go into the case, scot -free, and, you know, and go, I'm not paying that bitch, shit.

[1505] This relationship's over.

[1506] And the jury says, we agree.

[1507] Mr. Brennan, you can walk.

[1508] And so you're like, that's right, bitch.

[1509] All you're doing is going to pay your lawyer's hourly rates.

[1510] And they have no, there's no financial benefit to getting this done quickly.

[1511] Yeah.

[1512] The financial benefit is to drag this fucking thing on for two years and then let you know, hey, we got out of it.

[1513] You know, and then you realize, like, oh, my God.

[1514] It's like mandatory minimum sentencing.

[1515] Exactly.

[1516] There's nothing they can really do unless you have a pre -up or you can do a, get a litigator to, or like a whatever the, where they sort of a mediator.

[1517] I think you can get pay less than normal with the mediator this also here's another situation like someone was talking to me about like the Donald Sterling type sugar daddy situation like and they were saying that it's awful that you know these men get preyed upon by these vicious women I'm like if you don't know that that girl is fucking you because you're rich if you have a hundred billion dollars and you're 90 years old and this girl girl tells you she loves you and she's with you all the time she's acting perfect you don't know that she wants that money and by the way if she's fucking you she deserves a lot of money at least as much as you're going to at least half if you're a don't sterling type character and you've got some 25 year old super hot stripper that you're laying pipe to you got to pay her a lot because what she's doing is first of all very difficult to do yeah she's pretending to be attracted to you and You're disgusting.

[1518] And...

[1519] It's acting and basically surgery.

[1520] It's the worst parts of acting and surgery.

[1521] And it's super valuable to you.

[1522] Like if you're that old rich guy and you have a 25 -year -old wife.

[1523] You can get anything on earth except young girls.

[1524] You got to pay.

[1525] Literally, you can get anything you want.

[1526] Like, Lamborghinis cost less.

[1527] They're more accessible to you than a young girl that's actually attracted to you.

[1528] A young girl that's actually attracted to you.

[1529] doesn't exist.

[1530] They're unicorns.

[1531] It's a leprechaun.

[1532] Yes.

[1533] Mythical creatures.

[1534] They do not exist.

[1535] Only in your imagination do they exist.

[1536] But if you keep her like constantly like covered in diamonds and furs and whatever the fuck she needs and crocodile skin purses and Chinese named shoes and whatever the fuck you need.

[1537] Do you believe that it is possible to be legitimately attracted to a Donald Sterlington?

[1538] I think there are women with big enough father issues that like yeah I'm legitimately attracted to him like I would be a 20 year old I would never say that any like anything when it comes to attraction is impossible yes exactly because there's chubby chasers there's people that are into weird shit man it's people that are into weird shit and there's a lot of women that find like older men hot they like the idea yeah like some white -haired old dude laying dick into him whoa who knows man yeah I'm yeah I I'm, yeah, people like weird shit.

[1539] People like furries.

[1540] There's a lot of people that are really into being a furry.

[1541] I also have no problem with, with, uh, with prostitution on its face.

[1542] Like, I don't have a, like, why do, what do I care?

[1543] Why is it okay to get a massage?

[1544] It's not okay to get a hand job.

[1545] Right.

[1546] Exactly.

[1547] It's too good.

[1548] Yeah.

[1549] Well, it's, we're regulating sex like we're puritans.

[1550] Yeah.

[1551] It's, it's preposterous.

[1552] But it's also, you, you have to think if it was legal, would it encourage or would it discourage the sex trade like in terms of like you have to worry about like sex slaves and some you know that's those are real issues well and it's an issue that's completely unresolved because people on both sides of it claim they're right and they both seem to have a good argument and then also the the argument is like isn't it possible that there's a big fucking difference between a sex slave and a woman who like maybe she's like a young girl living in New York City the rent's really high she decides to fuck some rich guys for money like why is that worse than working at Denny's?

[1553] Yeah, exactly.

[1554] Why is it worse?

[1555] I would go a step further, which is, let's say it is an emotional problem.

[1556] She was molested.

[1557] She wants to over it.

[1558] She gets treated, whatever.

[1559] That's no different than the reason most people I know are in showbiz.

[1560] And I don't see anyone picketing that.

[1561] That's true.

[1562] It's based on an emotional stunt.

[1563] Right.

[1564] Why is it sex?

[1565] Why sex the only thing that you can't, take money for.

[1566] Because Jesus?

[1567] That's really why.

[1568] Because Jesus.

[1569] Come on, and that's a weird thing that sex is the only thing that you can't take money for ever.

[1570] You can't take money for it.

[1571] Yeah.

[1572] But you can.

[1573] You just got to be slick about it.

[1574] You can't.

[1575] Yeah.

[1576] Well, they dress it up.

[1577] Well, like if a girl's your, uh, sugar baby.

[1578] Yeah.

[1579] If a girl's your, uh, sugar baby.

[1580] Yeah.

[1581] Is it a sugar baby?

[1582] Sugar baby?

[1583] No, sugar would be they would pay.

[1584] So sugar daddy and sugar baby is your baby.

[1585] Is that what it is?

[1586] Yeah.

[1587] Um, okay.

[1588] So, whatever the girl's name, whatever you would call her, if she's dating some super billionaire type Richard Branson type character and he just gives her a salary, like, what if she's got a salary?

[1589] It's like, look, baby, you get $5 ,000 a week to just go crazy with, you give you a credit card, it's got $50 ,000 limit, here's your fucking Bentley, here's the keys, you're all set.

[1590] Woo!

[1591] She's on the payroll.

[1592] Is that a prostitute?

[1593] I don't, Roger Ailes, the guy at Fox News, had that on staff, yeah.

[1594] And it was an open secret.

[1595] How many did you have?

[1596] He had one.

[1597] But then he would just harass everybody else.

[1598] Really?

[1599] Yeah, she was on staff for years.

[1600] She was a researcher.

[1601] Researcher.

[1602] Yeah.

[1603] Maybe she was a research.

[1604] I'm sure she must have done something worthwhile.

[1605] Yeah, definitely.

[1606] At least something.

[1607] Something of write up a memo or something.

[1608] Is that a business partner?

[1609] Or is that a prostitute?

[1610] Well, that's the thing of, like, this thing of sex.

[1611] If you look at sex as this holy sacrament, then, it is, uh, if you look at every ejaculation as the holy sacrament, which the church would have you believe and then they get into government and they make laws, whatever, uh, then it's not legal.

[1612] But if you look at it like, uh, a milking or even a teeth cleaning or a haircut or anything that you need, any service that you need fairly regularly, uh, then it's, then all, all laws are like nonsense for the most part.

[1613] Isn't part of the problem too?

[1614] is the immediately accessible nature of the sex is troublesome to some people because if you have a relationship with someone who's basically fucking you for your money like at least you have this relationship with them and you hang out with them for long periods of time.

[1615] You have to spend time with them.

[1616] There's a lot of time that's not having sex.

[1617] So you actually have to be like friends with them in some sort of a way.

[1618] But the sex for money thing, you just show up and you go, yeah, I'd like to pay for sex and then you go and you have the sex and you're like, here's your money.

[1619] money thanks bye like the people have a problem with the brevity of it like well he's not even entangled here yes too transactional it's not it's it's it's it's it's against god to their mind it goes against god it's like that's not what god god wants you to sit there and be bored yeah and go on a drive and help listen to their you they listen to your stupid stories you listen to their stupid stories you bore the fuck out of each other you comfort each other those the rules yeah that's how we do things that's the fucking rules yeah you can't just be going in there all willy -nilly getting paid money for sex yeah it's too it's it's like to and and i guess because sex can create life you know the other thing is the pill is pretty new man that's true too you know abortion and the pill are both pretty new and the laws haven't really caught up well it's just you shouldn't be able to tell people what they can or can't do with their body that doesn't hurt anybody other than them.

[1620] Yeah.

[1621] Like you can't tell someone that they can't play rugby.

[1622] You can't say, no, you can't play rugby because rugby, they run into each other and you're going to get hurt.

[1623] What do you think is going to happen in the NFL?

[1624] I don't know enough about it.

[1625] Yeah.

[1626] But what I do know is that there's a lot of people that have some serious fucking brain damage from playing football.

[1627] Yeah.

[1628] There's no doubt about it.

[1629] I've met people that have played for it that are pretty open about it.

[1630] And then I met like Michael Irvin.

[1631] I don't know what issue.

[1632] he suffered from it but that guy is sharp as attack he's sharp as attack when you talk to him well he offset it with cocaine is that what it is balance it out i don't know now but yeah super so no a lot of intelligent analytical guy like a lot of them are very smart it's but it's an it's a late onset thing for a lot of guys yeah no for sure i was talking to a guy who who plays and he was saying like i said some about he plays whatever and he and he goes yeah he's like it's not that hard he goes on on it's offense you have to remember more shit he goes but there are times on defense where I'll black out and not know what's going on and you just keep playing which is like Jesus yeah it's like all right so is the blackout from memory or from stress it's from impact it's from impact yeah cranial impact and I it sounds like that's all of them he didn't say it like he said it completely like conversational he didn't say it like oh right a problem mister oh man well i think they're used to so much trauma yeah they're used to running at each other full clip yeah we don't think of it as being the most violent sport because i think of mMA as being more violent because you're actually trying to hit the person that's the goal is try to hurt them with your hands or your feet but it's not nearly as powerful someone running into you like someone running into you is that's a crazy amount of force into your head with their head that i think that's where the league may be headed is no helmets sometimes they go flying through the air like you see guys get clipped and spin and they spin or they disgravitate they like take you're like somebody just knocked a 200 plus pound man through the air like a pillow yeah like that that's a car accident yeah that guy just get hit by a truck he got hit by a 300 pound truck every play i think someone died I'm not even getting.

[1633] When I watch, when you watch it, you go, oh, that guy's dead.

[1634] He's definitely dead.

[1635] I know I'd be dead if that happened to me. But it goes to that weird thing where they have powerful, more powerful fucking mandibles and weird muscles.

[1636] Like, I think they build up a tolerance.

[1637] I don't know about all that.

[1638] I think after a while they all just go down.

[1639] What is this?

[1640] Oh, my God.

[1641] Yeah.

[1642] Jesus, car.

[1643] Look, they're running at each other.

[1644] running.

[1645] Here comes another guy.

[1646] Look out.

[1647] Right.

[1648] Boom.

[1649] Boom.

[1650] Oh, that was just a good play.

[1651] That's nothing.

[1652] That was an excellent play.

[1653] Oh, that was good.

[1654] But look, but there's something dope about it, right?

[1655] Like this guy.

[1656] Oh, my God.

[1657] He took a hard hit there and he kept going.

[1658] It's completely elemental.

[1659] It's the most basic instinct in the world.

[1660] It's like running from a scary thing.

[1661] Yeah.

[1662] That's true.

[1663] There's that, there's that element of it that works.

[1664] It's so primal that you're like, God, it's so exciting.

[1665] it's oh yeah that guy got lamb -baseded yeah there's something about you're running from someone who's trying to harm you as well like it's the most basic yeah primal shit yeah primal the monster the lion the whatever's coming to get you and then there's the warfare element like the the ground warfare of like capturing the taking the hill or whatever it's just i get why it works i think they just got to get rid of the helmets it's amazingly difficult to maneuver your body the way these guys are doing.

[1666] Yeah.

[1667] Did you watch the OJ documentary?

[1668] No. One of the big takeaways is how good OJ was at football.

[1669] Because you forget, I'm not old enough to remember OJ playing football.

[1670] So I heard he ran for 2 ,000 yards, but one of the episode, it's five parts.

[1671] One of the parts that's basically just about that, about how nice he was at football.

[1672] Wow.

[1673] And he did it in 14 games, and, like, he was, like, it's crazy.

[1674] Well, you know, one of his doctors said that if he had to rerun the trial today, he would bring up CTE.

[1675] Yeah.

[1676] Which is, that's a weird thing to do because then they would have to admit that he actually did it because the trial.

[1677] Yeah.

[1678] Yeah, but can you let, yeah, then they have to make a law about that.

[1679] Well, it's weird, too, because we all know he's in jail for those murders.

[1680] Yeah.

[1681] They didn't call it that.

[1682] They're not calling it.

[1683] No. No, they found a loophole and they're like, yeah.

[1684] I don't see any reason.

[1685] He's in jail for souvenirs.

[1686] He's in jail for...

[1687] That's a really...

[1688] The fifth part, if you've got to watch it, by the way, like, you...

[1689] I demand it.

[1690] Okay.

[1691] I absolutely demand it.

[1692] Because it recontextualized something that you think you know everything about.

[1693] Right.

[1694] And it talks to Mark Furman.

[1695] Mark Furman's justification for not being racist is...

[1696] I'm not racist.

[1697] When I was out on the street, if somebody wanted to go, with me, I'd fight him straight up.

[1698] And that's his reasoning.

[1699] Like, so therefore, therefore, I'm not racist.

[1700] Where you're just like, woo?

[1701] But at the same time, you actually, I kind of like Mark Furman after watching the movie.

[1702] Really?

[1703] Kind of.

[1704] Like, I, like, meaning I understood his, he makes sense to himself.

[1705] You know what I mean?

[1706] Like, you see his lodging, you know, all right, I know why he thinks the way he thinks.

[1707] Um, but, uh, not like I'm a fan of the guy, but you know what I mean?

[1708] Um, I hear you.

[1709] I know what you're saying.

[1710] But, yeah, like, it's an amazing movie.

[1711] And could you, could, if they did say it was CTE, then we kind of have a loss of the book.

[1712] It's like temporary insanity.

[1713] Right.

[1714] Well, not really.

[1715] You'd have to, you'd have to really quantify what kind of an effect C .T. had on him.

[1716] Like, you'd have to be able to figure it out.

[1717] Like, is it responsible for you going, man, I don't know.

[1718] Should I and take that from, man, I'm thinking about doing this too.

[1719] Or is it completely responsible?

[1720] Like how much of the CTE is responsible for your decision -making process?

[1721] Yeah.

[1722] Well, there are guys that say they black out, behaviorally.

[1723] They black out.

[1724] And you have to believe them.

[1725] You know, you have to think that there's, for sure, going to be some severe neurological implications of getting smashed in the head over and over again by big, gigantic dudes like that.

[1726] And CTE suffering.

[1727] You must have got a bunch of concussions, right?

[1728] For sure.

[1729] Yeah.

[1730] What were the vomiting and groginess and all that shit?

[1731] I don't know.

[1732] I do remember sparring sessions, just sparring sessions, where I got my bell rang and I'd go home and lay in bed and my fucking head would be throbbing and aching, just boom, boom, boom, just sitting there.

[1733] Every heartbeat.

[1734] And you're thinking, what am I doing with my brain?

[1735] That's what I was thinking.

[1736] Yeah.

[1737] Like, there's not even any money in this.

[1738] I'm like, I'm getting punched in the head all the time.

[1739] Yeah.

[1740] Because I was doing a lot of sparring.

[1741] and wearing headgear no no god no why headgear i couldn't see kicks coming i didn't like headgear headgear's weird when you throw in kicks what other guys wear them guys wear them i mean a lot of ufc fighters wear them a lot of people don't i i had a problem with them i tried to wear the ones that were there's a bar that goes across your face to protect your nose yeah that's the worst you can't see shit i had to for me i had to go like the mike tyson style which is one that mike tyson used to where a lot of his face was exposed.

[1742] A lot of people kind of criticized it because they said that he was more open to cuts.

[1743] And there's a reason why they had those big cheek.

[1744] But you can't see left and right, like peripherals.

[1745] Like if you're sparring a guy and he throws like real wide stuff on you, especially kicks, guys who sneak kicks around your shoulder.

[1746] Like you literally don't see them until they're on your neck.

[1747] Yeah.

[1748] And it's not good.

[1749] I didn't like it.

[1750] I'd rather get hit with no head gear on.

[1751] Well, then you have a chance.

[1752] Yeah.

[1753] I feel like I can move with it better.

[1754] You're still in a bad spot, but the real issue is cuts because a lot of guys get cut and sparring.

[1755] You might collide heads.

[1756] You might an elbow or something like that.

[1757] And when that does happen, the problem is then it could delay a fight.

[1758] And if you're an MMA fighter and you're training for it, it's probably pretty smart to wear head gear.

[1759] But it doesn't really protect your head that much.

[1760] In fact, there's an argument that it acts as more of a fulcrum point because the head gear makes your head larger.

[1761] So you can like the weight and everything.

[1762] it actually can make your head move more.

[1763] Well, it's funny what happens to your brain, which is it just goes flying against your skull.

[1764] There's nothing technical about it.

[1765] It just goes like, boon -y -sh.

[1766] Yeah, and it can't maintain signal why that's going on.

[1767] It can't maintain order.

[1768] And especially if you get hit in the base of your head, like one of the scariest kicks that you can get hit with that a lot of guys get hit with is neck kicks.

[1769] You get necked.

[1770] and when you get neck kicked guys go down like they got shot because of what gets hurt it just shuts your brain off oh it's like this thing the juggler punch thing no it's the shin slams basically against the base of your skull it's like really the back of the head the shin is basically a switchblade yeah it's on your leg here Google this Ernesto Hooste KOs Maurice Smith Morris Smith was a good friend of mine And he's a former UFC heavyweight champion Former World Muay Thai fighter More a moytai champion He's a bad motherfucker But he fought this guy who's Just one of the greatest of all time Ernesto Hoost And he got caught with a kick to his neck And I knew like how tough Maurice is And I knew how good of a fighter he is So when you see a guy who's at the level that Maurice is Watch this Boop See how he threw that over the top of his head It's like the top of his spine Yeah and he just shut Got Maurice off.

[1771] Look at this.

[1772] He slides on the outside and he lifts his head up.

[1773] It lifts his foot up rather and goes over the shoulder or Maurice doesn't even see it coming until it's already too late and it hits the back of his head.

[1774] It's crazy.

[1775] And that's his foot, which isn't even that hard.

[1776] Well, it's still hard.

[1777] Ernesto Hoose's foot.

[1778] But it could be way worse.

[1779] You're right.

[1780] If it was a little bit further back, then it would be a shin.

[1781] Yeah.

[1782] It's over.

[1783] But a lot of guys knock guys out dead cold.

[1784] Well, that's an elite.

[1785] You can't.

[1786] punch the back of the head in boxing, right?

[1787] But you can kick guys, and when you land, it oftentimes lands in the back of the head and no one ever thinks there's anything wrong with it.

[1788] It's real weird.

[1789] It's a super gray area.

[1790] So you can't punch an MMA, you cannot punch the back of the neck and head, but you can kick.

[1791] Exactly.

[1792] That's very odd.

[1793] It's so odd.

[1794] Well, it's an issue with kickboxing as well, because some of the best techniques land on the back of the head.

[1795] Like, here's another one that does all the time, too, wheel kicks.

[1796] Like someone will throw a wheel kick.

[1797] It's like a spinning heel kick, and they'll can.

[1798] catch a guy, boom, right on the back of the head.

[1799] It happens all the time.

[1800] And it's technically, it's an illegal place to hit someone.

[1801] But because head kicks are like, that's sort of like the ultimate striking weapon.

[1802] Like if you knock someone out, like knocking someone out with a head kick, it's like the ultimate striking weapon.

[1803] Because it's everything we always wanted to see in karate movies.

[1804] You know, so because of that is so encouraged to like, whoosh, the guy just knocked him, he kicked him in the head.

[1805] Holy shit.

[1806] But because it's so encouraged, we don't think about the implications of kicking someone in the back of the head, which is probably way worse than punching someone to the back of the head.

[1807] Yeah.

[1808] But it happens all the time in kickboxing and all the time in MMA.

[1809] It's one of those weird things where nobody wants to talk about it, but everybody knows it's the case.

[1810] You're kicking a guy in a totally illegal spot, but you're not trying to.

[1811] And you're fighters acknowledge how double the standard?

[1812] They all know it.

[1813] They all know it for sure.

[1814] Everybody knows it, especially everybody who's been hit by one of those or hit and hit somebody with one of those.

[1815] You know where you're hitting them.

[1816] A lot of times you're hitting the back of the head.

[1817] Where can you punch if someone, you can punch all the back?

[1818] All over the body, you can punch the legs.

[1819] You can't punch the groin.

[1820] But you can punch somebody in the ass.

[1821] You can punch in the back?

[1822] You can punch them in the back.

[1823] You can't punch them in the back.

[1824] You cannot punch above the shoulders.

[1825] Or you can't elbow strike the spine.

[1826] There's some weird rules.

[1827] They're actually, we were talking about this yesterday.

[1828] Jamie and I looked up.

[1829] Jamie said they came up with some new rules.

[1830] And one of them involves knees to the head to a downed opponent.

[1831] now a downed opponent means you have to have both hands down on the mat and your palm has to be flat you can't have just one if you have one hand up they can knee you in the face so that's not a downed opponent because there's a lot of people that were criticizing this this downed opponent thing because people were sort of what they would call gaming the system where you would lean down you just touch your hand on the ground like as if it's safe and then the guy can't hit you So that's how you're getting out of exchanging.

[1832] Got it.

[1833] Instead of you're totally capable of standing up or totally capable of covering up.

[1834] You can make your choice.

[1835] Like you got to this position or he got you to this position.

[1836] It's advantageous for him.

[1837] It feels like a fairly standard position.

[1838] Yeah.

[1839] It happens all the time.

[1840] But the issue becomes if you are incapable of getting out of the way, should you be able to knee a guy in the head?

[1841] Because some guys, like when they're down like that, it's like, well, that's a devastating maneuver to knee a guy in a head when they're in that position.

[1842] Yeah.

[1843] So they, for good reason, they wanted to decide when it should be legal, because there's other organizations where you could do crazy stuff like stomping people.

[1844] You can stomp people, like stomp their head in certain organizations.

[1845] That was a big one in pride.

[1846] You could soccer kick guys and stomp them.

[1847] But oddly enough, they didn't allow elbows on the ground.

[1848] They felt elbows in the ground were barbaric or something.

[1849] They had a line.

[1850] Yeah, that's everybody's good.

[1851] People are so crazy with their lines that they draw.

[1852] Can I pee real quick?

[1853] Fuck, yeah.

[1854] It's the Joe Rogan.

[1855] Where I have to go to the bathroom.

[1856] You drinking that delicious Pellegrino.

[1857] I've gotten into bubbly water lately, Jamie.

[1858] I hate to admit it.

[1859] I like sparkling water now.

[1860] I just think there's no nutritional benefits.

[1861] I had it in my head that regular water was better for you.

[1862] Was that your thing?

[1863] The Keepers of the Ark or the Covenant, I found I looked up.

[1864] I found something where it said that there was a report of one of them having milky cataracts.

[1865] in a description, but it's not all of them from what I'm reading.

[1866] God damn it, Graham Hancock.

[1867] Christians in Ethiopia have long claimed to have the Ark of the Covenant, a reporter investigated.

[1868] Go down to the very last chapter.

[1869] Or the very last paragraph, rather.

[1870] Let's see what the fuck they said.

[1871] Yeah.

[1872] See, that's the thing about these things.

[1873] The final moments of any search, I could not judge whether the Ark of the Covenant truly rested inside the nondescript chapel, perhaps Menelik's traveling companions did take it and spirited home to Ethiopia.

[1874] Perhaps its origins here stem from the tail spun by, so nothing.

[1875] He's got no evidence.

[1876] Yeah, there was apparently also a storm and leaky roof that was going to make a move it in 2012, but I didn't find anything that said that, whether it was seen or not.

[1877] And that the battery, the Baghdad battery, was supposedly also not a battery.

[1878] They think it was used for electroplating statues with gold and silver.

[1879] Oh, that makes sense.

[1880] So there was a little bit of a charge in there, but not enough to be power or something, yeah.

[1881] Oh, so it's just a way they kind of made paint?

[1882] Yeah, sort of.

[1883] They would cover stuff.

[1884] So I think the hypothesis is they would spin it in there, and it would create a bond to the stone or whatever they were.

[1885] That makes sense.

[1886] So that's the way they would use it on statues and stuff?

[1887] That's fucking amazing.

[1888] God damn.

[1889] It was so cool when you think of how these people had to use their little monkey brain.

[1890] to invent the first wheel or to invent pottery like the people that I mean when did they figure out pottery if you had a guess let's guess what do you think 5 ,000 BC not far after fire not far after fire they just figured out they get hardened stuff yeah stuff probably just accidentally let's Google it I say 5 ,000 BC no that doesn't make any sense because like Coomron or not Coomron Sumer Sumer was before that 6 ,000 and 4 ,000 This is like potter's wheel though Oh oh okay This potter's wheel was invented In Mesopotamia Sometime in between 6 ,000 and 4 ,000 Does that say 4 ,000 not 4 ,000 BC Ubaid, Ubaid period You guys going over ancient inventions What's going on?

[1891] We're trying to figure out When they invented pottery Oh that has to be a long has time ago We were looking at the Baghdad battery That we were looking at earlier Apparently Jamie found out that it might have been used to electroplate gold, like that it created a small charge, but really wasn't a battery.

[1892] It was just used to make almost like electric paint.

[1893] And then we're trying to figure, well, I was like, how fucking cool is that?

[1894] Like how crazy were the first people, the first monkey people from like a million years ago, wherever it was it, figured out how to make a flint knife, you know?

[1895] And the first people that figured out pottery, they figured out how to roll dirt and light it on fire.

[1896] There's a cool, Duncan brought it up his last appearance, not as the most recent one.

[1897] There's a cool YouTube channel of a guy that does this.

[1898] He makes tons of different experiments in trying out primitive technologies and processes.

[1899] He doesn't talk at all.

[1900] I'm going to look it up so I can find out what it's called, but he just made a really cool one where he pulled little pieces of metal out of iron ore. And he invented this way to get his flame hotter using some sort of thing, and he shows you he makes the whole thing.

[1901] It's really, really cool.

[1902] It's just amazing when you think of how long ago it was it felt well we don't even know what it was that someone first invented pottery that potter's wheel was at least 6 ,000 or at least 4 ,000 BC.

[1903] There's also the idea that people invented it and it just never got out before that you know what I mean?

[1904] 2 ,000 years earlier maybe somebody invented and then he just never no one ever leaves that village.

[1905] Yeah, that definitely could be it.

[1906] So what is this gentleman doing?

[1907] It's called primitive technology is the YouTube channel, so it shows him make, he's making a forge blower.

[1908] What's funny is he has cave hands.

[1909] You know what I mean?

[1910] He looks like the original.

[1911] This dude is one of, there's a bunch of people now that are experts in ancient ways of living.

[1912] Like ancient archery and ancient, like, house building and shit.

[1913] It's really weird.

[1914] Well, there's something that I was going to say, you met.

[1915] meditate at all?

[1916] Yeah, well, sort of.

[1917] In the tank, I do.

[1918] Um, so I went on a, uh, seven day silent meditation retreat.

[1919] Whoa.

[1920] Yeah.

[1921] It's no talking for seven days.

[1922] No talk.

[1923] Well, it ended up being like, we talked, uh, for three minutes starting day three.

[1924] We'd talk for three minutes a day.

[1925] Whoa.

[1926] On day three.

[1927] But I got to say it was at, on the first day, I'm not kidding.

[1928] I fucking cried.

[1929] Oh my God.

[1930] Because, dude, no talking, no television, no computer, no phone.

[1931] What?

[1932] Here's the worst part.

[1933] No reading, no writing.

[1934] What?

[1935] Just meditating and like eating and whatever and being like being in this village thing.

[1936] Whoa.

[1937] But this video is fucking really cool.

[1938] This video is dope as fuck.

[1939] This guy made these, like made like a little furnace blower out of this pottery.

[1940] thing with a wheel inside of it that he would spin and it would blow air.

[1941] With a fan.

[1942] A fan inside of it.

[1943] Yeah.

[1944] It's like it got like a handmade fan and he does it by moving it around with his fingers and now he's like making a rope and a twine so he could pull it probably like a bow.

[1945] Yeah.

[1946] And what he's been able to do with it is stoke this fire up in this incredible way.

[1947] I mean it's just blazing.

[1948] And it's all from the wind that he's blowing into it with this crazy invention and this is some shit that people did what thousands of years ago or something yeah they were cool to watch some problems solve all these things he just keeps happening like his first early videos he makes this hut that's behind him and it's just out of nowhere he's just in the middle of the forest and he goes and he makes his little bricks and he heats him up in a kiln he made and he started with no fire and yeah he's built all this stuff it's pretty cool to watch this is wild though he's doing all with clay and shit there's a bunch oh it's diarrhea what is don't eat that what the fuck is he making man it's getting the carbon and putting it in with the iron ore and he puts it in the in the oh that's right he's going to make metal yeah yeah this is insane this is insane is he making coal what's he making yeah he's gonna make metal this is how people did it man it's what's what's really crazy is someone had to figure out how to take all the elements that are involved the camera's about to catch on fire I know right this is this is wild it looks like fake fire it does looks like some cg i fire this is all cia bullshit this is preparing us for the uh zombie apocalypse they're teaching us when the grid goes down how to make our own fire uh yeah so silent meditation retreat so wake up at uh so day one i cried cried straight up cried wow from like it's it feels like you're dead You can't talk to anyone you know.

[1949] Wow.

[1950] And you can't get online.

[1951] You can't read.

[1952] You literally are like an apparition.

[1953] You're just walking around like a ghost.

[1954] And but day three and four were two of the best days of my life.

[1955] Really?

[1956] Yeah.

[1957] Because all you're doing is meditating and meditation brings on like just stimulates your brain, makes you happy.

[1958] Like proven.

[1959] Like monks take MRIs and they just look like they don't stress.

[1960] They have high, incredibly low levels of cortisol.

[1961] and very high levels of positive chemicals.

[1962] So I would meditate nine hours a day.

[1963] Wow.

[1964] Yeah, and you just end up like...

[1965] And the other thing I would do, because I couldn't...

[1966] No one could talk and I didn't really need to talk to anybody.

[1967] I would smile all day.

[1968] So if you smile all day, it tricks your brain into thinking you're happy because your brain doesn't know, like, if your muscles are just...

[1969] They go, oh, I guess we're happy.

[1970] So everybody acts happy.

[1971] It can work backward.

[1972] They go in, Paul Eichmann, wrote a book.

[1973] But it was, yeah, it was an amazing experience.

[1974] Amazing.

[1975] And what I realized is I came away with, like, I'm so overstimulated at home with podcast, television shows, computers, fucking phones, texting, constantly, that it's made me really cut back on everything in a way that's very, very positive, I think.

[1976] Wow.

[1977] Yeah.

[1978] because dude I wake up I don't most people wake up and you immediately like mainline information or technology like right like I used to do when I smoke cigarettes I would wake up and have four cigarettes and drink coffee and just like shock my body and I feel like I really would have awful and I feel like that's what I do now or what I used to do with technology just like constantly turn my phone on text go on New York Times go on this thing going on go on Reddit go on all these places and it wasn't making it was just stressing me out.

[1979] Yeah, it doesn't make you feel good.

[1980] Yeah, but that's hard.

[1981] Isn't that weird?

[1982] Yeah.

[1983] This thing that we all do constantly, we're acknowledged, like, it doesn't make me feel good.

[1984] Yeah, we need discipline.

[1985] Yeah.

[1986] That's a big, big factor in managing the electronic world is discipline.

[1987] The discipline to not watch too much television.

[1988] Yep.

[1989] Discipline to not fuck around your phone too much.

[1990] The discipline did not play games too much.

[1991] You can, you can get lurched in.

[1992] Yeah.

[1993] Lurched.

[1994] sure we know what you meant it's not yeah it's not really a right word it's it's probably not ultimately beneficial right right i mean like certain amount of access to it is really good yeah but it's so addictive we should have like one person like a responsible guy like will you look up like the world should have that where it's like hey look up when when so -and -so was invented but for the most part we can just communicate because that's the thing that's another one of those things where you talk about what because I look up what action makes people happy.

[1995] Communication real connection community volunteering makes people happier which I'm like in the Big Brothers program and it's like it's not bad it hasn't given me a spike or anything a spike of adrenaline or good feelings of like not even adrenaline of like serotonin and but really connecting with people is that may be what you like about doing the show because I always find that I enjoy doing this show and people are like it's so long I'm like yeah I know it's long but I don't know there's something about just like sitting here and just like stare at each other and like what else do you think do you think that here's what I think yeah well and there's something about it for listeners probably too yeah well it's so long form that you get everybody gets real relaxed yeah and you get to It becomes more of the way I listen to it.

[1996] Like, a lot of guys do it this way now.

[1997] Ari does it this way.

[1998] A lot of guys do it.

[1999] They just let it go as long as it goes.

[2000] Yeah.

[2001] And when you do that, like conversations, they evolve.

[2002] They move around.

[2003] They get deeper.

[2004] They get lighter.

[2005] They get silly.

[2006] Yeah.

[2007] There's no, it's not organized.

[2008] And I like listening to people talk.

[2009] Yeah.

[2010] Well, you like ideas.

[2011] Yeah.

[2012] So you like to hear, like, what's your idea?

[2013] That's not a good idea.

[2014] or that is a good idea yeah you gotta be super flexible with your ideas i've gotten way better at that since i started doing a podcast way better at trying to figure out like what is it about an idea that i disagree with and how much of it is that i had a different idea than that idea in my head yeah preconceived notion how much of that is how i'm affected yeah by the disagreement or the uh it's called motivated reasoning yeah that's Ooh, that's a perfect way of describing it.

[2015] That's exactly what it is, right?

[2016] That's super common, man, for all of us.

[2017] And I think that having conversations on a podcast with a variety of different people that have a variety of different opinions has been really interesting because I get to challenge my own opinions.

[2018] Like, well, where are my opinions coming from?

[2019] Yeah.

[2020] Have they been really vetted out?

[2021] Yeah.

[2022] Or are they just some, like, convenient stuff that I've held on to because.

[2023] Yeah.

[2024] Well, yeah, you have the shelving built.

[2025] You have all the shit.

[2026] You have like, yeah, I got the T -shirt.

[2027] I got the old thing.

[2028] I got the right adapter I don't want to get that's exactly right yeah yeah but yet so it is this this that was what I learned like the the walking around not having to talk to people yeah was cool in that there was no pressure and it was also like the least sexual environment I've ever been in because everyone just looks like they have the flu basically people are struggling did they have rules could people hook up uh it was discouraged it I also would say, like, everyone, I didn't have a roommate, but, like, you're in, like, Olympic -style dorms, like, where you have a roommate and there's, like, eight rooms in each floor.

[2029] It was like a summer camp, basically, where you did nothing.

[2030] It seriously would be kind of hot, though.

[2031] It would, like, having been there.

[2032] Guy and a gal, both single, both can't talk.

[2033] Yeah.

[2034] Having been there, though, it runs counter to what you're going for.

[2035] You're, like, really, it's fucking interesting where you go, like, you're like, you're, like, you really see what's inside because I was trying to think of what it was like like I was like basketball camp was like no basketball camp we had TV VCRs and talked the entire time this was like nothing it's like nothing you've ever done you and then we would talk and then they would do a talk every night about some theme some Buddhist theme and then the next day you would you would talk in a group about that and what I found was I didn't even really want to talk it's like fuck it I've come far let me see how long I can not like let me just see what but you see what's in there and you see like what your brain does you see what you're interested in you see what you remember any recall my recall was really good because your brains what I realized with the with the all the technology is you I would create chaos in my head with somebody voices and sounds and noises that I couldn't even I couldn't remember shit because it was like I can't to get back there.

[2036] I can't even get through all this garbage to like the file that I'm looking for.

[2037] Um, so if I couldn't remember something, I'd be like, just hang out.

[2038] It'll come.

[2039] And it would always come.

[2040] Um, but that was the, the thing of like, I don't listen to the radio when I'm in my car now, which is odd.

[2041] So I just drive like a fucking old man. Whoa.

[2042] Just literally just me and fucking me and silence.

[2043] Just to limit the amount of signals.

[2044] Yeah.

[2045] And it's not easy, but yeah.

[2046] I got a buddy My own lives in Australia, rather, I want to say Alaska for some reason.

[2047] He lives in Australia and he takes these trips out to the bush where he goes out camping and he'll be gone for like eight, nine days.

[2048] Or he won't see people for like nine days.

[2049] And he said that when he comes back, oftentimes it feels really weird to talk to people.

[2050] Like I almost like forgot how to talk to people where it's been nothing but him alone with his thoughts with no cell phone service for like eight or nine days.

[2051] yeah it's really worthwhile because what i also realized is that i was like with all the signal and all the all the noise and everything is is i was upsetting myself do you know what i mean like it's like no i don't need this much and i would just overload myself like no this is we're in the golden age of information and i can access any fucking video and look at the godfather and fucking scarface and all the shit and it's like no you need to slow down man like that's not that's kind of my temperament but at the same time my my nervous system was like screaming hmm like you got to chill out wow yeah but i don't smoke weed or anything like that so i don't have any way to to separate yeah or to like to quiet my nervous system i mean i have antidepress and stuff like that or but but meditation really helps and since i've been back i've meditated pretty much every day since, which is really, for like three months, which is really, I've missed a few days, but it's definitely like an entrenched part of my life now that I miss if I don't do it.

[2052] Time for reflection is very important to avoid getting stuck with momentum, right?

[2053] When you have the momentum of your life, like, and you just kind of let things keep playing out and just adjusting along the fly, that separation to step back and look at it.

[2054] It's so critical.

[2055] It's so important.

[2056] And it's so hard to do because I think once things start going in your life, whether it's obligations or financial responsibilities or whatever things that you're working on that are occupying all of your time, they become so much a part of your thought process and you consider them to be like of primary importance because this is like, I have to pay these bills.

[2057] Hey, this I have to deal with this shit.

[2058] I have to, this is what's going on.

[2059] that they, they sort of overwhelm cognitive reasoning.

[2060] They overwhelm perspective.

[2061] Well, you don't have the opportunity to step back and go, hey, you're not here for that long.

[2062] You have a limited amount of time here.

[2063] Yeah, that's what it was like, oh, so I died.

[2064] Like, what was this like?

[2065] It was a bit like the Mark Twain thing, like, of like seeing your own funeral of like, oh, wow, I was away for a week.

[2066] I got I had the automatic email thing and I knew so people knew I wasn't around but I only got like 50 emails it wasn't like an ungodly amount of emails right uh I got maybe 10 texts which all manageable you know like it's not like oh I was I was so missed the world needs me it's like no we can all duck out Obama can duck out it's probably in Martha's Vineyard right now he's reachable but he's not like working working when he does that Like, how much do you think he works while he's doing one of those trips like that?

[2067] I'm going to bet three hours.

[2068] Three hours.

[2069] Yeah.

[2070] I bet in the morning and then again in the afternoon.

[2071] It's just a random guess.

[2072] That's a completely uneducated.

[2073] It's based on fucking nothing.

[2074] I think people are going to miss that guy so much.

[2075] Oh.

[2076] They're going to miss that guy so much.

[2077] You can't even quantify how much they're going to miss him.

[2078] He kept it together in the face of overwhelming criticism, which is really interesting.

[2079] Like the way he handled it without a hint.

[2080] of bitterness yeah or or anger he's a fascinating guy in that way he's a very very measured guy yeah he's nothing if not measured like that's the he's half everything yeah and i think the one of the good things about having a guy like that one of the most important things like you can criticize him you could you're with him you're not with him but having a guy like that sets the tone for the way we think about ourselves and he was a nice guy who's in articulate guy.

[2081] He was warm and friendly.

[2082] I believed him.

[2083] Yeah.

[2084] That's the tone.

[2085] Whether or not he was really like that 24 -7, I don't fucking know, man. It seems like he was.

[2086] But he's setting the tone with his behavior.

[2087] Yeah.

[2088] That's what people are most terrified of by something like Trump becoming president.

[2089] They're worried that there's a lot of people that are like super aggressive.

[2090] Yeah.

[2091] And that like having like an insulting person.

[2092] president who yeah i'm i'm thinking about whether i agree with you about whether obama raised the discourse because it it got coarser and he got yelled at and you lie and all that stuff he made people worse in some ways toward him uh how much you think he does and talk radio and internet and talk radio got worse in the last eight years which could just be natural it may have been worse without him yeah yeah it's it's not as simple because it is like it did get worse but i think the thing that you said it's really worthwhile is like the level -headedness of that dude yeah and like a really measured kind -hearted guy see it's hard for me to discern how much of the hate he gets is from his policy from where the just the current state of the united states is yeah in the eyes of ourselves the world financially resources jobs all that stuff and then how How much of that, how much of it is racism?

[2093] Yeah.

[2094] How much of it is, um, how much of it is, um, how much of it is, um, how much of it is, um, how much of it is, uh, criticism that he's always had that by trying to be accommodating to everybody, he really gets nothing done.

[2095] Yeah.

[2096] You know, I don't know.

[2097] I don't understand it.

[2098] I'm, it's, it's, it's way too complicated for me to dive into without losing it.

[2099] The hatred thing that I point out always is I think it's probably half 50 % racism and 50 % percent, Republicans fucking hate Democrats.

[2100] they fucking hate them So that's two presidents in a row That they've said were not legitimate It's so crazy Because they did the same thing with Clinton Where they tried to indict him pretty much from day one And investigate the fuck out of him and his wife Well do you remember that And I should say Republicans versus I should say Republican politicians Because I can't say You know I can't speak for all people Sorry Donald Trump is a birther Oh right no I know He was the big proponent of it Yeah he was saying he's from Kenya Yeah.

[2101] Yeah.

[2102] He's, and he's only down by three.

[2103] I mean, he kept saying it too.

[2104] He kept going all in.

[2105] Remember they released the birth certificate and everything?

[2106] Like, this is a forgery.

[2107] It's a goddamn forgery.

[2108] Yeah.

[2109] He had all these reasons to believe all it's a forgery.

[2110] Yeah.

[2111] He has people in Hawaii investigating.

[2112] How hilarious is it, though, that people would be worried if he wasn't born in the right spot?

[2113] uh well that speaks to people's uh movie suspicion they want to believe that there's a manchurian candidate there's a pod and there's a cell here hates america yeah yeah as jesus is my witness he hates america and it feels good amendment to be abolished yes and it feels good to play the victim yeah that's the thing people also forget it's like no it feels fucking really good to go like he's out to get us and he doesn't believe what I believe it's like no he's a fucking boring ass he I believe he I believe he's a boy I think that's the worst thing you say about him religiously otherwise he's a he's Christian at least so the idea that if he's a Muslim he's a awful Muslim and he knows another about it bacon see what happens yeah yeah I'm sure yeah exactly it's like bring garlic to the vampire house that's right I don't know man I just I don't think anybody's ever going to be able to do that job.

[2114] I think that job is a ridiculous job.

[2115] And I think that at the very least, he moved some social issues in a way, like during his time, I feel like people were more tolerant in a lot of ways.

[2116] Like, it opened up a lot of social issues.

[2117] Yeah.

[2118] That I don't think would have been addressed with a less measured, more easily accessible.

[2119] Well, he truly is like progressive, where it's like, yeah, like I'm a progressive politicians so I want things to evolve but then there's like the fucking Ed Snowden shit well that's the thing it's he's super authoritarian and some with drones and Snowden shit like that leaks they were worse about leaks than Bush was yeah but here's the thing about drones right was that happening anyway was that just going to happen anyway and is it because he's in office I mean how much of effect does he have on what the heads of military decide to do and not do with things like drones.

[2120] How much of an effect do you think, like personally he has on that?

[2121] I feel like a lot.

[2122] Did you watch the CIA thing on Showtime?

[2123] It was like the last seven heads of the CIA.

[2124] They, documentary about them?

[2125] No. It's fucking good.

[2126] But it talks about, yeah, it's like seven or eight, Michael Hayden, a bunch of one of these guys.

[2127] And they talk about having, Leon Panetta, they talk about having a guy in sight on video live and having to decide whether it's go time Jesus Christ the spy masters CIA and Cross heroes wow yeah good huh yeah really good crazy job man it's super duper like you know right wingy it's like it's it is very pro death and pro you know pro fire fire all weapons we got the weapons let's use them type thing but it's interesting that everybody pretty much that's involved at the highest level in in military is i mean there's a a giant percentage of them that are probably conservative right yeah right you think so i think so i feel like it's 80 % even though i'm making that up yeah i would say i agree with your made -up quote thank you it's a good number i would agree with that don't you think here's an interesting one What percentage of merchandise do women buy in America?

[2128] Percentage of all merchandise in America?

[2129] 40 %?

[2130] 80%.

[2131] Oh my God.

[2132] Isn't that fucking insane?

[2133] It's amazing.

[2134] Yeah.

[2135] 80 % of merchandise is purchased by women.

[2136] Wow.

[2137] I don't even know what...

[2138] I've known that for months now and I still don't know what to make.

[2139] That's incredible.

[2140] Yeah.

[2141] I just Googled it said 85%.

[2142] Oh my God, they're winning.

[2143] They're winning.

[2144] yeah and they mark but they market i guess they market to men to get their women to say hey buy this for me i don't know what um because men wouldn't would have men buy like video games deodorant yeah shoes yeah shoes james's really in shoes wow that's a big number that's a big fucking number that seems like almost like it's trying to in some way replicate something that exists in the wild Go on.

[2145] You know what I'm saying?

[2146] This is a classic Rogan.

[2147] Why are the numbers so strongly in the camp of women buying shit?

[2148] Why?

[2149] What is...

[2150] It's got to come from the gather thing.

[2151] It's got to come from the gather thing.

[2152] They want to collect stuff.

[2153] Yeah.

[2154] It's like the same leftover echoing urge that made them pick wild apricots.

[2155] Yeah.

[2156] And we want to go and hunt.

[2157] I bet percentage of men hunting is at least 80.

[2158] yeah there's a lot of men um i don't know what the number of women would be go ahead and google there's a bunch of women they do it but a lot of women do it and and they turn it into a career how come because if you can be like a personality a hunting personality and you're a woman that's like a legitimate career path like there's a bunch of them if you're decent look in and you can shoot nice for the bow yeah yeah yeah yeah and um it also allows men and women to watch their hunting shows together okay I like when the girl wins she's always right yeah this says the same thing for motorsports says that they agree that women racers bring fans out to the game 74 % of males and 62 % of females agree that women racers bring fans out to the games hmm interesting well that's some underdog shit I think it's the woman among I mean I think it's like Like the girls who race in NASCAR?

[2159] What's her in, Danica Patrick?

[2160] They go like, Danica Patrick is so hot.

[2161] And you're like, ah, she's all right.

[2162] She's like a, you know, we'll give her a six and a half, seven out of ten.

[2163] That's hilarious.

[2164] Yeah, like I can't say that she is like a, you know, but it is definitely like more.

[2165] It's the thing that you notice.

[2166] Yeah, it's super odd, right?

[2167] It's super odd for a woman to want to do that.

[2168] But normal.

[2169] I mean, it's nothing wrong with it But for a woman to want to race like Formula One Or something like that Oh, there's a, oh, she's great looking It's a pretty good, pretty gal I like how you say that the right way Oh, she's Miss Hawaiian Tropic Oh, see, these are all race car drivers These women, Jesus Wow, that's gangster Courtney Forth, it's a good name That sounds so porn Yeah Daily, all right, that's a good picture, David Okay.

[2170] But you have to be like a wild person to be a race car driver.

[2171] Go on.

[2172] Do you think it's a characterological thing?

[2173] I wonder.

[2174] It's so risky and it's so rewarding, I would guess, in a sense of like a sensory perception sense.

[2175] Yeah.

[2176] Like the more.

[2177] Well, yeah.

[2178] You want to talk about upsetting your nervous system.

[2179] Yeah.

[2180] I'm like, ah, yeah.

[2181] And the consequences are terrible if you fuck up.

[2182] You know, car accidents at 150 miles an hour.

[2183] are not cute.

[2184] Horrific, too.

[2185] When you see people get spun around, they could fucking crash and fires.

[2186] Yeah, and like, it explodes like flex and you're like, was that a foot I just saw?

[2187] Dude.

[2188] But having said that, high, high rate of mortality, like, I'm sorry, low rate of mortality.

[2189] Like, they actually survive way more than you think.

[2190] Where you go, oh, that's another one of those, like, dead.

[2191] Dead, you're dead.

[2192] Those people are dead and they're fine.

[2193] Have you been seeing these people that put these balloons around their bodies and get hit by bowls?

[2194] I haven't.

[2195] We've got to show you this.

[2196] I'm looking forward to it very much.

[2197] This is a recurring theme on this show.

[2198] It's almost like one of those top 40 morning radio zoo shows where they have those weekly gags.

[2199] One of our weekly gags is, show one of the guests, the people with the balloons on that get hit by the bulls.

[2200] and this is my take on it I don't think people realize how vulnerable they are this is a oh this is a different one oh okay cool this is a different one and look they got a rodeo clown and everything they're trying to rope oh this guy he's going after the guy who doesn't have a suit on oh he got flipped oh he got jackson oh my god this is even more horrific so this is obviously something went wrong because the bull They still seem pretty happy to be in there.

[2201] They're not leaving.

[2202] Oh, my God.

[2203] The guys who are willing...

[2204] I like that's interesting about...

[2205] It's an interesting metaphor about bowls and a temper tantrum.

[2206] They go after the guy, even though they're just mad that their balls are tied up.

[2207] But they're like, well, fuck it.

[2208] I'm in a bad mood anyway.

[2209] This is the better one.

[2210] This is the one that we were talking about.

[2211] this one looks like it's first of all definitely looks like it's taking place in Mexico right second of all these these uh cushions these guys have they're just not big enough they only go from the waist up yeah you want to cover your dick I think that's a yeah yeah you're gonna you're gonna see some carnage watch this because the the bull gets loose and when the bull gets loose these fuckers in this thing I think they just have this this stupid plan that they're going to be fine you gotta back it up a little because the guy had already got jacked.

[2212] Yeah, but he got jacked before that.

[2213] Right there.

[2214] Boom.

[2215] So they let the bull out.

[2216] The bull sees these assholes walking around with these giant jellyfish balloons.

[2217] Look at him.

[2218] I mean, he goes flying.

[2219] He gets gourd on the ground.

[2220] He gets run over.

[2221] I mean, this guy gets fucking jacked.

[2222] They never really fuck with the horses, though, huh?

[2223] No, they don't fuck with horses.

[2224] Even the bulls know, like, yeah, I don't want to.

[2225] want to fuck with that.

[2226] Well, they don't, I think they don't seem to think, or they don't recognize them as a threat.

[2227] The horses do anything.

[2228] They think people are cuts.

[2229] Oh, they just don't like people, right?

[2230] Yeah, I think, I think, because of the cows.

[2231] Come on, cow.

[2232] I think cows have always realized that, uh, people want to eat them.

[2233] Look at that.

[2234] Boom.

[2235] Boom.

[2236] I mean, if a cow sees a person, what are the odds, boom, that that's going to be a bad thing.

[2237] The odds are pretty goddamn strong.

[2238] Yeah, nothing good is going to happen.

[2239] Like, oh, good.

[2240] They might squeeze your tits for a couple of years and then shoot you in the head.

[2241] But for sure, one day they're going to shoot you in the head.

[2242] Do you think it's naturally ingrained, though?

[2243] I don't think Calus is like an enemy.

[2244] And you can't pass that on genetically, I don't think.

[2245] Do you know what a scrub bowl is?

[2246] No, tell me. Scrub bowl are animals that until like the last X amount of years used to be domestic cattle, but then they get loose and they live in the countryside.

[2247] And this is something that happens often in Australia, where they're not necessarily like the same strain anymore as like a strain of cattle that you would use for like beef or, you know, like that you would bring to market.

[2248] They have different, they have different genetics now because they've been wild for so long and they're not like an Angus cow.

[2249] Right.

[2250] So if you have Angus cows and this thing shows up and starts fucking your, your cattle, you got a problem.

[2251] You get some weird cross breed of a cow that might not be like the best for eating.

[2252] Right.

[2253] But these things, they live wild in the bush in Australia.

[2254] And in Australia, there's no predators.

[2255] They have like, you know, small things like dingoes and stuff like that.

[2256] But they're never taking out a bull.

[2257] They would need a lion or something like that to kill one of these things.

[2258] And they get cool looking.

[2259] Like they look different.

[2260] They don't look like a cow anymore.

[2261] They start looking more and more primitive.

[2262] in some weird way.

[2263] They start looking more like an animal that you would see in Africa or something.

[2264] It's really fascinating, man. Like, here's some of the photos.

[2265] Like, look at that.

[2266] It looks like, Africa, a long time ago.

[2267] Yeah, that was a different animal.

[2268] But if you just Google scrub bull, is that what it is?

[2269] Okay, like that one in the upper left -hand corner is a perfect example.

[2270] Like, that is not really, obviously, that's a cow, right?

[2271] It's a bull.

[2272] But that looks way different than the average bull that you see either at the rodeo.

[2273] I'm looking at his balls back there, right?

[2274] Huge ball, son.

[2275] That's a package, son.

[2276] Yeah.

[2277] Huge balls, giant antlers, or horns, rather.

[2278] And his face and just the way his body's built, it's different.

[2279] He's a wild animal.

[2280] And he's living the way they're supposed to be, and that's why he looks like a wild animal.

[2281] And you know what else?

[2282] He's fine.

[2283] He's doing great.

[2284] They're super aggressive, though.

[2285] There's some of the most dangerous things to run across if you're out in the bush, as it were.

[2286] I don't see what you mean.

[2287] That's another one of the most dangerous things.

[2288] What is that?

[2289] It's a buffalo.

[2290] I don't know if that's...

[2291] Will they ram cars?

[2292] Oh, yeah.

[2293] Hey, has there been like a lot of animal chasing...

[2294] You saw the tiger eating the lady last week.

[2295] In Beijing.

[2296] That was pretty wild.

[2297] But a lot of like giraffes chasing cars and shit.

[2298] Have you seen some of these videos?

[2299] No. Look at giraffe chase his...

[2300] Chase his...

[2301] Listen, it only makes sense.

[2302] Hauling ass, by the way.

[2303] It only makes sense.

[2304] Yeah.

[2305] They're tired of our shit.

[2306] Here you go.

[2307] Oh, I've seen this.

[2308] Yeah.

[2309] That is crazy.

[2310] Look at the strides on this motherfucker.

[2311] I know, they're shit in their pants.

[2312] Look at it running behind them.

[2313] You know, they would hit you with their head, too.

[2314] Oh, my God.

[2315] Look, it's right behind you.

[2316] It's like you were saying about the neck whip thing.

[2317] Oh, my God.

[2318] This is terrifying.

[2319] I think he comes around a corner.

[2320] Again?

[2321] I think he does.

[2322] I don't know if this is the right one.

[2323] Oh, my God.

[2324] What do you think it would do to those people just start smacking him with his head?

[2325] Yeah, whip his neck at them.

[2326] It's really dangerous.

[2327] You've got to think of how big his head is, man. Have you ever seen them fight?

[2328] It's so cool.

[2329] Yeah.

[2330] It's really painful.

[2331] I mean, like, in terms of animal shit, like that's one of those things where you're like, I don't know, guys.

[2332] It is one of the weirdest.

[2333] I don't mind biting, but that's like really fucking odd.

[2334] It's one of the weirdest.

[2335] It's one of the weirdest.

[2336] And you want to talk about a concussion.

[2337] Oh, yeah.

[2338] Like, they must just be evolved or have really small brains or very tightly packed brains.

[2339] Well, you know, sheep can slam into each other, like, super hard.

[2340] But their brains are literally connected to their head different than ours are.

[2341] They're like, they've evolved to absorbed impact.

[2342] Yeah.

[2343] I would assume Rams are, too.

[2344] Yeah.

[2345] that's that's insane those wild desert like big horn sheep like I don't like it oh my god this is crazy like what a strange trait to develop to have neck fighting they're fighting like two snakes oh my god they beat the fuck out of each other too see if you can find a good video of big horn sheep headbutton each other because these fucking things they have the giant like battering rams that grow out of their heads and they like raise up and crash into each other and the sound sounds like a rifle going off yeah and they do it in the mountains oh these things these fucking things Look at it.

[2346] Antlers on that thing.

[2347] Look at this.

[2348] Boom.

[2349] Jesus.

[2350] Boom.

[2351] And decided to during 10.

[2352] Oh my God.

[2353] Yeah, we don't have to listen to what that guy's saying.

[2354] He's just talking about snow on the ground and this sheep are going after it.

[2355] It's crazy how hard they headbutt each other.

[2356] Boom.

[2357] Is that what was the audio was from or was it from something else?

[2358] It's weird audio.

[2359] But they evolved to do this.

[2360] It's just such a strange trait.

[2361] Look at this.

[2362] Oh my god, play that back.

[2363] Yeah.

[2364] That's a rifle.

[2365] Oh, they're getting rid of the fuck, I think.

[2366] Boy, they're so weird.

[2367] These things are straight out of Star Wars.

[2368] They really are.

[2369] Yeah.

[2370] I mean, look at this fucking animal.

[2371] Any kind of natural defense is always interesting, a shell or a horn.

[2372] Yeah.

[2373] Oh, these things are dope as fuck, man. You know, they have brought them back to a lot of environments now.

[2374] They've transplanted them all throughout the West.

[2375] It's kind of interesting.

[2376] They did it.

[2377] They brought them to a bunch of different states.

[2378] They took, like, viable males and females, and they installed them in these areas and monitored.

[2379] They're gross.

[2380] Are they indigenous to, are they indigenous to states?

[2381] They used to be?

[2382] Yes, they are, but they used to be in more areas.

[2383] They used to have a wider territory.

[2384] But what happened was, I guess, after World War, or after Civil War, rather, there were a bunch of people that were market hunters.

[2385] And, you know, the same type of people that shot all the buffalo for the hides and all that jazz.

[2386] They did that with a lot of animals all throughout the entire West.

[2387] And they, you know, potentially wiped out or got close to having them wiped out.

[2388] like a bunch of different big game species like elk and deer and it took a while to bring all those things back so what a lot of these conservation organizations are doing is like taking these things and dropping them off into the mountain some places and then monitoring them and making sure their population survive but it's it's a fucking way too cool of an animal to not figure out how to bring back you gotta bring it back dude I've seen them in the wild they're fucking cool they're cool looking and they seem like their nature is okay despite the headbutting.

[2389] Oh, no, they're just chilling.

[2390] They just don't want that dude to fuck their girls.

[2391] Yeah.

[2392] It's like, come on, bro.

[2393] Yeah, we understand it.

[2394] Yeah, as far as, like, violence goes, it's, like, probably, like, the nicest violence.

[2395] I mean, to us, it would suck if they headbutted us, but but it doesn't seem to bother them.

[2396] But I also would promise you that NFL players watch that and are like, yeah.

[2397] We get after that.

[2398] Yeah, like, before games and shit.

[2399] Maybe you have NFL players have to evolve to develop a connection to their brain like a Rams.

[2400] They need to, I think it's going to be a while.

[2401] It's going to take a few decades.

[2402] You hearing that helicopter, by the way?

[2403] Mm -hmm.

[2404] Still going on.

[2405] There was some sort of a gas leak a few miles away.

[2406] Some shit went down.

[2407] Still going down.

[2408] Still going down.

[2409] Yeah, watching those things headbutt each other just makes you weirded out as to how the different ways that things evolve, but they're all a kind of life.

[2410] Like how strong the differences between an octopus that can get out of the whole the size of a quarter and squeeze its whole body through and that thing that slams its head into one of the other competing males raises up on its back legs and comes crashing forth and they don't even budge man yeah they collide with each other it sounds like a gun went off and they just stare at each other they're like okay such a cool animal they have giant nuts huge that this is based on firsthand option yeah yeah yeah it was pointed out to be by this guy, Steve Ronella.

[2411] It's amazing, you know, when you think I don't see a lot of dicks day to day?

[2412] You see so many dicks, like, on animals and dogs, it's crazy.

[2413] Yeah.

[2414] And we just, like, are fine with animal dicks.

[2415] It's true.

[2416] But human dicks, we have laws about.

[2417] Hmm.

[2418] But we are living in a playground of fucking animal cock.

[2419] Well, you know what I think?

[2420] I think people are supposed to live, I think, like, naturally.

[2421] Like, we're inclined to live, we're inclined to live in a place where you don't need to do anything as far as clothing.

[2422] If you go back to, like, the people that are the indigenous people in the Amazon that are chilling and drinking ayahuasca and going fishing and growing their own vegetables, they're basically naked.

[2423] Yeah.

[2424] Right?

[2425] They've probably been like that forever.

[2426] They're walking around barefoot.

[2427] I think as soon as you put on clothes, as soon as you can manipulate your environment and live in a spot where you normally wouldn't be able to live, but you figured out fire.

[2428] Like, say, Phoenix.

[2429] Oh, yeah, perfect example.

[2430] Perfect example.

[2431] My friend Mike Goldberg lives out there, and he likes it.

[2432] He just goes from one air -condition room to another air -condition room.

[2433] Work out in an air -conditioned gym.

[2434] Yeah.

[2435] Go home to an air -conditioned house.

[2436] Most cities in America are either way too, like, how did you put it with this cold or how do you put up with this heat?

[2437] I wonder if that could, like, adversely affect your health if you're only breathing, like, air -conditioned air all the time.

[2438] Oh, yeah.

[2439] Yeah, like mortality rates.

[2440] Yeah, I wonder.

[2441] Probably not, though, because old people go to Florida.

[2442] And they go to it.

[2443] Yeah, they thrive.

[2444] It seems to put a couple of years on them.

[2445] Yeah.

[2446] I think struggling with your environment, yeah.

[2447] Yeah, people are less likely to die of, I think, I can fuck with heat.

[2448] I could take Phoenix way over, like, Minnesota.

[2449] Yeah, a lot of people feel that way.

[2450] Like, the negative aspects of heat is you just have to turn the air conditioning.

[2451] The negative aspects of that cold is like nothing's happening.

[2452] You might get shut down.

[2453] The fucking power might go out.

[2454] You might have to light your couch on fire to stay alive.

[2455] Yes.

[2456] Whereas I feel like I could withstand 130 degrees when I had water.

[2457] Uh -huh.

[2458] Yeah.

[2459] Like here's all that you would have to have.

[2460] You'd have to have two things happen at the same time.

[2461] A pandemic epidemic as far as like a disease and power going out.

[2462] You'd have to have those two things happen in the winter.

[2463] And the people that are supposed to.

[2464] turn the power back on, they're not going to go to work.

[2465] There's some kind of an evil flu.

[2466] If you get near people and they sneeze on you, you're going to be dead within 24 hours.

[2467] Like, that's all possible.

[2468] Yeah.

[2469] That can happen.

[2470] And if that does happen and the power grid stays down during the winter in some place and they can't figure out how to get people to go out there and fix it and...

[2471] Yeah.

[2472] Whereas what's the stats on heat?

[2473] Can you look up the stats on heat?

[2474] It's so hot when the air conditioning doesn't work done.

[2475] It's true.

[2476] After it's five hours.

[2477] It's fine, man. It's fine, though.

[2478] It's true.

[2479] 100 degrees.

[2480] Oh, no, you're 100 % right.

[2481] But you can sit in the shade, you can lay in the pool.

[2482] It's hot in here if it's 80.

[2483] Yep.

[2484] You can sweat.

[2485] You sweat.

[2486] It's a natural thing.

[2487] There's no, you have no natural defenses against cold.

[2488] Sound like a pussy, Jamie.

[2489] You know what you sound like, Jamie?

[2490] You sound like a no good pussy.

[2491] I went through a week with no power in the middle of like an ice storm.

[2492] And we survived it.

[2493] You can put on layers and get warm.

[2494] You can start a fire.

[2495] If you want to get cold, you can't get cold once it's 100.

[2496] I've seen that argument.

[2497] My buddy has that argument.

[2498] It makes sense.

[2499] But I don't mind super -duper hotness, though.

[2500] I just don't mind it.

[2501] Like, my body likes it better.

[2502] Do they?

[2503] Yeah.

[2504] Well, I think everybody's body is certainly different.

[2505] I mean, you'd have to wonder, you know, if they believe that there's certain people that have diets that would better suit them because their ancestors came from a certain part of the world.

[2506] Like, that's a theory.

[2507] I think that kind of makes sense that people would have different temperature requirements as well what makes them feel like it works Yeah I think it stands to reason It's like I don't have good circulation I just think that people In being able to manipulate the environment The way we can We will There's too many of us We couldn't stay in all the good spots We can't all just live in Costa Rica We can't live in San Diego Yeah exactly In fact people don't even really want to live in San Diego And it's there now San Diego is here Yeah but San Diego is amazing No I know that's but they still are like It's perfect climate and people are like no I would even say San Diego is not warm enough for me Really?

[2508] I like LA heat Wow yeah you know what This is a lot of cool people in San Diego I've always enjoyed hanging out with people in San Diego I think it's a it's an interesting combination between like military And like surfers Yeah they're not a very stressed out group No San Diego people I think it's a really good city I think it's a really good city.

[2509] I think San Diego is like probably one of my favorite, definitely one of my favorite cities in California.

[2510] And La Jollaia has the most ticklish audiences.

[2511] Ticklish?

[2512] That's what I said when it crowd's like so good.

[2513] You're like, oh, you guys are just ticklish.

[2514] Well, that club is awesome.

[2515] Yeah.

[2516] The La Jolla store.

[2517] Yeah.

[2518] I think I want to do that the next time I go back there.

[2519] You should, what do you do, theaters there?

[2520] Yeah, I've been doing theaters there.

[2521] But, uh, I did a Laughing Skull in Atlanta last week.

[2522] Oh, yeah, that's really good, huh?

[2523] Dude, it was so fun.

[2524] Yeah.

[2525] And it made me think, like, I got to, you know, I got to do more little places as well.

[2526] How'd you end up doing a laughing skull?

[2527] Because I wanted to do a small spot because I did the tabernacle there last time I was there.

[2528] Yeah.

[2529] And I want to fuck around and come up with some new stuff.

[2530] And I've got some stuff I'm working on.

[2531] And I just knew it would be like real intimate, real, real, uh, real tight little crowd.

[2532] It's only like 80 people.

[2533] It's so cool.

[2534] What'd you charge?

[2535] 20 bucks or something?

[2536] I don't know.

[2537] Nothing crazy.

[2538] Yeah.

[2539] But the, um.

[2540] But it wasn't like, uh, $100 ticket, gold circles.

[2541] You know, it's comedy club prices.

[2542] It's a comedy club.

[2543] Comedy clubs are, they're so important, and a lot of people that, like, get to theaters.

[2544] Yeah.

[2545] And they get to that theater stage, they never want to give back to the comedy clubs.

[2546] They always have this, like, weird adversarial relationship with club owners.

[2547] But I'm always like, look, nobody's perfect here.

[2548] But if it wasn't for these people that are willing to open a comedy club, crazy assholes like you and me wouldn't have any place to work.

[2549] We're not going to make our own club, right?

[2550] Like, God's, like, that are awesome, like, Bob Fisher owns the Ice House.

[2551] Like, he's such a sweetheart of a guy that it, like, it doesn't just benefit you to do it because it's a good thing financially to help him and help that club.

[2552] But it's, he's, like, you need people like that.

[2553] Yeah.

[2554] Like, this is the only way we ever get to work.

[2555] Same with, like, Comedy and Magic Club.

[2556] Oh, Mike Lacey.

[2557] He's the salt of the earth.

[2558] He's the sweetest guy.

[2559] one of the nicest people that's ever walked the face of this planet.

[2560] Yeah.

[2561] Agreed.

[2562] Yeah, man. Look, and all this shit, Jamie Massada takes a lot of heat, but think about all the charitable stuff that Jamie Massada's done.

[2563] Yeah, absolutely.

[2564] Jamie Mousada's done a lot of great stuff.

[2565] Yeah.

[2566] He really has.

[2567] And he continues to work with a lot of underprivileged children, and he does a lot of different...

[2568] Yeah, I got to do comedy camp on Saturday.

[2569] Yeah, he's a good dude.

[2570] Jamie, Jamie's a good dude.

[2571] And we need all these folks.

[2572] You know, we need all these folks.

[2573] And they need us.

[2574] And it's like, it's, but there's something that happens when people, uh, I think definitely happens when you don't get the respect you think that you deserve early on, you know, as comics?

[2575] Yeah, for a club.

[2576] Well, yeah, but those offers are pretty like, yeah, 1500?

[2577] Like, they're really shitty.

[2578] Sometimes.

[2579] And then they go like, well, you haven't done anything.

[2580] It's like the negotiation thing.

[2581] It's hard to forget that shit.

[2582] It is.

[2583] And it does become this thing of like, it forces you as a comic to go like, well, when I, get the chance to fuck you you're gonna get fucked exactly the same way you're fucking me now and they do it to and they fucked pretty much everyone and they develop this uh connection in their head the club owners that all the club owners are adversarial with each other no with you yeah like this is these they're all your adversary yeah you you're the comic those are the club owners they're trying to fuck you yeah they're all pieces of shit yeah they should give you your fucking money yeah it should be happy you there yeah opposite sides of the aisle yep absolutely Absolutely.

[2584] It's like the weirdest relationship.

[2585] But if there was no comedy clubs, dude, we, we would be fucked.

[2586] We're so lucky that those goddamn things exploded in the 80s.

[2587] Yeah.

[2588] Like, when, think about like the Lenny Bruce days.

[2589] When he first started out, he used to have to emcee for, like, fans, yeah.

[2590] Yeah, he used to like have to go on, you do your stand -up in between.

[2591] Or something along those lines.

[2592] Like, there was no comedy clubs.

[2593] Like, they, that's a really recent thing in terms of, like, the last.

[2594] hundred years.

[2595] Well, I was explaining to a buddy of mine about the how comedy has become so necessary and I think it's partially because of the news in that in that when the news started every news division like lost money and but you had in order to get a license you had to have a good news division and then in the 80s they deregulated it and then news uh became a profit center for networks and and good journalism basically went out the window so guys like john stewart and guys like michael moore and guys like chris rock and guys that were like political and had tv shows became almost like the function of um of news programs before this and i was explained to him he was like oh okay because i was i was explaining to someone like how john came how his rise to power and colbert and all these people because there's no all right you can't and now the internet you can get at least like redid or or like there's a lot of shitty websites with like quote unquote news on them but but for a long time you couldn't get it was just there was a vacuum of like there's no big objective opinion or john oliver on hbio where he'll do these deep dives into because no one else is going to do them because there's no money in them allegedly they'd rather do something sensational uh like the dumbest thing or the the the the the the the most recent dumb thing Trump said, and there's no, like, there's a premium on objective truth, or at least funnily subjective truth.

[2596] Joe Rogan, your thoughts.

[2597] This is a weird time.

[2598] It's a weird time when it comes to trying to disassemble the way we've got this bizarre system set up, the way we got it structured.

[2599] Like, we're getting older, you know, and as we get older, we realize, well, we're just going to pass on this stupid system to the people that are coming next.

[2600] We haven't fixed anything.

[2601] That's the one of those...

[2602] Well, the thing is, I almost don't even know how to fix the shit.

[2603] Oh, yeah.

[2604] Look, it's a real good question.

[2605] Yeah.

[2606] But there's an entanglement problem.

[2607] Yeah.

[2608] It's like we were talking about earlier when we were talking about different ways that people are making money.

[2609] Like, there's so much money to be made.

[2610] We were talking about it in divorce courts.

[2611] Yeah.

[2612] But think about how much money there is to be made in keeping this system of government exactly the same way it is right now.

[2613] There's so many jobs that are dependent upon it.

[2614] Like, even if we think that it's a ridiculous idea, we need to abolish the whole thing and start from scratch, what do we do with all those people that are working for it?

[2615] Well, the other thing I was thinking is, is people, like, the thing that I do like about the Trump movement is people just going like, no, the system's broken, and it doesn't work for, it doesn't work for people anymore because everybody's bought and paid for.

[2616] everybody in Congress lobbying is pays literally lobbyist right laws so people and people don't like it and they don't know how to stop it right so you've got people I've got a system people go well do you know anyone that you think would run for office no do you know what I mean and as much as it's like because it's a weird job and I don't know anyone who's just like that ideologically driven and could navigate the way it is now so as much as I'm like well they're going to change we're to shake the system up To what?

[2617] But it's not just that.

[2618] Stop and think about what it is.

[2619] It's like to elect a leader for someone to campaign and tell you that they would make the best leader.

[2620] Like all throughout history, the people that are proclaiming themselves to be the ones that you should follow are almost always the ones you should never follow.

[2621] Exactly.

[2622] Right.

[2623] So when someone is proclaiming themselves to be capable of leading this land and I am going to be your king and I will take you to the highest heights, right but I don't even think kings needed to do that right well I don't think they got a chance to do that you'd have to kill a king you'd have to be a usurper yeah but this is essentially the same model right that they're doing when they're running for president even though we know that that's not the kind of personality trait that you would want from a leader you would want someone who's who's not in any way promoting of themselves yeah a selflessly you want a selfless person who does this thing that's incredibly self -interested.

[2624] And they would have to figure out how to fairly monitor this society that we live in, how to fairly, when do you decide when do you put people in jail?

[2625] When do you decide, do we throw all the old rules out and completely look at them all with new facts and new ideas?

[2626] Yeah.

[2627] Do we just, is it, like, there's a lot of weird drug arguments where there's certain drugs that are legal that are way more dangerous than certain drugs that are illegal.

[2628] And then you look at this money trail behind all that.

[2629] Like, okay, how can you guys still do this?

[2630] Yeah.

[2631] Like, how can you still do this?

[2632] Like, we should make things legal that the scientists agree should be legal.

[2633] Right.

[2634] And then everything else is dangerous.

[2635] We should figure out how to regulate it.

[2636] But you can't decide.

[2637] Like, why is everybody deciding based on, like, ancient information?

[2638] Right.

[2639] It doesn't make any sense anymore.

[2640] Because it's a democratically elected government.

[2641] And, but again, it attracts the wrong kinds of people.

[2642] It's, you know, like Churchill or somebody said, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the, it's the best of all the bad systems.

[2643] Yeah, for sure.

[2644] Obama released or exonerated a bunch of drug war victims today.

[2645] How many was it?

[2646] How many was it?

[2647] I think it's a few hundred.

[2648] Yeah, I think it's like 300, something like that?

[2649] Yeah, which is...

[2650] Yeah, and you know what I hope he said to him?

[2651] Like, if you fuck up, you're fucking me, basically.

[2652] Who knows what kind of damage is done when someone's in jail for a long period of time?

[2653] guy can't vote can't get most jobs right uh yeah it's like a very very fucked up system no how does that work do you an ex -felon if the the president you have rights you clean oh yeah i don't know if you're exonerated i don't know does that make you uh pardoned he's been touched by magic you've been touched by magic the president has magic he can tell the court that they have to let people out of jail how old is that wacky idea.

[2654] That might be the wackiest of all the wacky old shit.

[2655] You can decide that the guy who killed people should get free.

[2656] Yeah.

[2657] Because you're the king.

[2658] Hinkley went free the other day.

[2659] See that?

[2660] What?

[2661] Yeah.

[2662] He's out on the streets man. He might be listening to us as we speak.

[2663] What?

[2664] John Hinkley.

[2665] The one who shot Reagan?

[2666] Yeah.

[2667] Holy shit.

[2668] They let him free?

[2669] Yeah.

[2670] They're trying to get Obama Q. After 35 years.

[2671] Who was he trying to show?

[2672] Wow.

[2673] He was trying to impress Jody Foster that's right message he was it turns out you were barking up the wrong tree friend she don't like dudes hey bro you don't know about that um actually she's out the right guy with the right dick got old i'm sorry get a spot right lunatic with the right dick brought it back um brought her back to the land of the heteroes i got to get out of here jojo let's get the fuck out of here but i did want to tell the people that i will be uh in chicago and and and uh and Madison, Wisconsin, the 18th and 19th.

[2674] Go to three mics .com.

[2675] Where is it?

[2676] What do you do in Chicago?

[2677] I'm doing three mics.

[2678] Three, about me. Oh, the Thalia, the Thalia Theater?

[2679] Thalia Theater.

[2680] Chicago's got a lot of cool little theaters.

[2681] Yeah, it's cool.

[2682] And the Madison, I'm doing the Majestic.

[2683] And then I'm shooting three mics in Los Angeles, September 9th.

[2684] Don't have a venue yet.

[2685] The majestic theater in Madison, Wisconsin?

[2686] That's a dope spot.

[2687] Yeah.

[2688] So you don't change shirts or anything, do you?

[2689] No, same shirt.

[2690] Imagine if you had wardrobe changes.

[2691] Yeah, it would be pretty great.

[2692] A costume on.

[2693] So, yeah, so three mics, September 9th in L .A., go to three mics .com, or follow me on Twitter.

[2694] I'll update it in 18th in Madison of August and 19th of August in Chicago.

[2695] I hopefully delved enough into that magnetic treatment for depression.

[2696] Yeah, look it up if you're interested, because it's, It's really, really, it was very, nothing has been more helpful to me in my entire career of depression.

[2697] Is it available to everybody?

[2698] Yeah, it's on a test thing.

[2699] Yeah, you can look it up.

[2700] Like I said, it's covered by Blue Cross, so it's a really impressive.

[2701] Yeah, it's a hugely helpful, and the numbers are really good.

[2702] There's a new one also called, like, I want to call like, Theta Burst or Alpha Burst, CMT.

[2703] But they're using the CMT shit for tons of, like you were saying about that radio lab, like, they're using it for, tons of different brain areas and it's and it's really effective so i and i say that having experienced it firsthand it's kind of crazy we're juicing our brains up with electricity and firing them up who gets hers yeah good we're gonna have magneto helmets one day for sure right like the x -men dude they put that helmet on and all the magnets and he would float through the air yeah we're gonna have those fucking things just let we just got to make it to the to we're gonna make it past our our failing bodies but once we get there i think one of these cranial helmets if they had a cranial helmet that came up with that had all these electrodes just constantly zapping your brain while you're walking around with it on yeah see your life clear yes yes um you're a good boy joe everybody knows it you're a good man as well yeah yeah good to see buddy nice talk always enjoy our conversations yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i'm gonna yeah yeah yeah