#831 - Byron Bowers

[0] Byron Bowers, ladies and gentlemen.

[1] Hey, what's going on?

[2] What's up, brother?

[3] Good see you, man. Thank you for having me. My pleasure.

[4] What's the latest and the greatest with Byron?

[5] You've been traveling all over the place, man. Check your Instagram out.

[6] Man, I just got back from the Dominican Republic a few days ago.

[7] And it was a very interesting experience.

[8] Yeah?

[9] Yeah.

[10] Like, anytime you go somewhere tropical, you're like, man, this place is beautiful.

[11] And then by that third day, you'd be like, like man this is this is horrible politics the way they treat people oh yeah so you see the balance of you know everything especially as a you know uh being from where i'm from and being black and what's going on i'm always in exotic places when cops are killing black people so who is you out of the situation and lets you see how you know fucked up things are for like Haitian people well yeah i mean pretty much every third world country deals with all kinds of fucked up shit.

[12] Yeah.

[13] Like, way worse than we have it here.

[14] It puts things into perspective.

[15] Like, I often think like, if United States wasn't established just a few hundred years ago, if that didn't happen, like, what would the world be like?

[16] Like, would most of the world be like a lot of these countries that you visit where you deal with insane police corruption?

[17] Like, I've had friends that have been pulled over in Mexico and, you know, the cops basically just straight up tell you.

[18] Like, do you want to get out of this?

[19] Give me some fucking money.

[20] Yeah.

[21] I think I had a situation like that, uh, coming through TSA, but I didn't realize until they let me go, but they held me for a long time.

[22] Where?

[23] Uh, in Dominican Republic, because I had on a button up shirt that's denim, like the one I'm wearing now.

[24] And they was like, take your jacket off.

[25] And I'm pre -check.

[26] So when you become pre -check, it's like a white privilege.

[27] And I'm like, I'm not taking off my, this is not a jacket.

[28] This is a jacket.

[29] This is a, a shirt.

[30] So in the Dominican Republic doing this?

[31] And I'm flogged on glasses and stuff and they was like, oh, okay, oh, it's a shirt, huh?

[32] Come through.

[33] And then as soon as I came through, they was like, this is your bag?

[34] And they started trying to take my cologne.

[35] Like, yeah, that's flammable.

[36] You can't take that on the plane.

[37] Or my umbrella.

[38] Yeah, you can't take umbrellas on the plane.

[39] That's a weapon, sorry.

[40] And they just held me there.

[41] And we just made eye contact with each other.

[42] I'm like, show me on the chart.

[43] That's all I kept saying.

[44] And then after a while, they was like, you know what?

[45] You could take it you know so after a while they just gave up yeah they gave up because i was like okay if i checked the bag can i take everything and they was like yeah so what i did i unloaded all my bags and start rearranging things so i could put it so i could check it right and you can make it back to america but once they saw me doing that and they saw how neat i was and like every time they touch someone i had to put it back a certain way they're like it's just going to be a waste of time for even us yeah but don't they have rules like we have rules as far as like like how many ounces of liquid and stuff like that you could take on a plane they do but it made it over there so that's why i was trying to get them to explain to me like why exactly yeah but it probably made it over there because the people that work at tsa over here are fucking barely paying attention well you know i take it everywhere i take it everywhere well how big is your uh cologne first of all cologne's stinky man we were in that shit i love i love it i know you disagree with cologne you know i disagree yeah you disagree It's a political point.

[46] I disagree with cologne.

[47] You're more alpha, though.

[48] You know what I mean?

[49] You could choke them out with your muscles, and I could choke them with the smell.

[50] Okay.

[51] I'm not exactly sure where to go with that.

[52] But so how big is the cologne that you bring on?

[53] Probably like three point something ounces.

[54] Okay, see, I think you could bring on like four ounces of liquid.

[55] Yeah.

[56] Isn't that how it works?

[57] Yep.

[58] You need a toiletry bag?

[59] Yeah, it was in a toiletry bag.

[60] Now, mind you, I went from Montreal, too.

[61] So I went from New York to Montreal.

[62] here to Dominican Republic so this same luggage has been like everywhere so what were you doing down Dominican Republic oh I met up with some friends of mine from college some African homeboys and I really hopped in on their trip because they visit the DR a lot and I wanted to see what it was like and I snorkeled a lot like I came back sore but yeah I did a lot of time in the water morning evening and like late afternoon well it's beautiful for that Yeah, that's one of the cool things about those tropical climates.

[63] The oceans down there are amazing.

[64] The ocean is amazing.

[65] Some of the reefs wasn't as, you know, not like when I was in Jamaica or when I, like, in Hawaii, where everything just comes alive and it looks like a city.

[66] But it definitely, you do feel like you landed on another planet to me and I'm flying, like I'm cruising over, you know, the terrain.

[67] You mean when you're swimming?

[68] When I swim, yeah.

[69] Anytime I snorke, like, is that other world experience to me. Yeah, man, I'm a big fan of the water, but the sharks fuck it up for me. Yeah.

[70] I'm just not in to getting eaten.

[71] Well, yeah, that's the thing why sometimes I keep looking around, like, especially if it's not a lot of things in the water.

[72] But I saw squid.

[73] That was the most beautiful thing I saw from this trip was just like 40 baby squid all lined up in a row.

[74] that looked like they'd just been born, you know, pooh, and they were just there.

[75] And I didn't even know they were squid.

[76] I thought it was like fish with interesting fans because it looked like, you know, like a lady just doing her dress like that.

[77] When I got close, I realized that I was at the tentacle part and I just locked eyes with them.

[78] And I was like, oh, this is the most beautiful thing.

[79] Do you know Duncan Truzzle?

[80] Yeah.

[81] Duncan has this new virtual reality thing.

[82] It's a virtual, it's called the H -TV vibe.

[83] and you put it on and you actually feel like you're underwater.

[84] They have this program because I think it's called Deep Blue or something like that, something blue, but you put it on and one of the reality programs that you put on is an ocean one, and you're standing at the bottom of this like ocean area and these fish swim by.

[85] And it's not 100 % realistic because the graphics aren't totally there.

[86] yet yeah but it's like 85 % realistic and that's amazing a whale pulls up to you and you get to look at the whale like you look in its eyes but like i don't know if you ever used any kind of virtual reality i'm pretty new to it too yeah but you get a full 360 degrees like you can look down you can look up you can look everywhere so this whale as it's in front of you you could choose different spots on the whale that you look at you can look at its eyes you can look at its tail it's fucking fascinating And it lets you know that, you know, within 100 years from now, probably not even, probably like 20.

[87] Within 20 years from now, oh, this is it?

[88] Is this the program?

[89] So this is it right here.

[90] So you stand there and you're looking around, like that dude's just looking around with these goggles on.

[91] Yeah.

[92] And this is what you're seeing.

[93] I mean, you're seeing it feels like the actual ocean.

[94] Yeah, that's basically what it looks and feel like, you know.

[95] Oh, that's beautiful right there.

[96] It's crazy that that's, what is it, like 79 % of the Earth or something like that?

[97] Yeah, when we looked it up the other day, it was over 70 % of the Earth is water, and 95 % of that is ocean water.

[98] That's amazing.

[99] It's almost like how they say our bodies are made up with the same.

[100] Not quite.

[101] I think a body's like 60%.

[102] They used to say it was like 90 % water.

[103] Find out what that is.

[104] I think the human body is actually only like 60%.

[105] water.

[106] Something like that?

[107] Maybe.

[108] But I've experienced virtual reality the one where you could just travel everywhere around the world.

[109] Sixty -five.

[110] Average human bodies between 50 and 65 % water averaging around 57 to 60%.

[111] Average percentage of water in infants is much higher, typically around 75 % to 78 % water.

[112] Huh.

[113] That makes sense.

[114] Dropping a 65 by one year of age.

[115] A little water balloons.

[116] It's probably why the skin gets crazy like the older we get the water is dropping in it the water's dropping in it yeah like they said the percentage goes down the older you get oh man you probably just drinking too much oh get wrinkles and stuff yeah that's actually collagen that's um that's the wrinkle thing is the elasticity of your skin gives out your body stops producing collagen correctly but you you can mitigate some of that with like moisture and you know like some people use creams and shit like that, but at the end of the day.

[117] Time wins.

[118] Time wins.

[119] I definitely use creams.

[120] I use creams.

[121] I use creams and cologne.

[122] Yeah, I leave a lotion.

[123] Yeah.

[124] All things that stink.

[125] All things.

[126] Well, I can't use, I can't use dyes and perfumes in my lotions.

[127] How come?

[128] It dries my skin and I'll make it break out.

[129] Perfumes in lotions, but you can wear Cologne.

[130] Yeah, I wear Cologne.

[131] Cologne lasts a certain amount of hours.

[132] And it lands on your skin, so, you know.

[133] Look at you.

[134] You're being a clone commercial.

[135] Yeah.

[136] It lands on your skin so dedicated.

[137] Have you always worn a clone?

[138] No. Well, once I got into it, my mom, like I was raised by my mom, like, all sense of smell was just so strong, you know, so it was always fragrance around.

[139] And to me, that's the first, like, that can alter your mindset or your mode, like, when you smell something good.

[140] Mm -hmm.

[141] Yeah.

[142] Yeah, it's an anchor.

[143] It can cause, like, a mental trigger.

[144] Yeah.

[145] brings you back to that place, like certain smells, like the smell of apple pie if your mom cooked apple pie or something like that, you could smell it and it'll immediately transport you back to that good place.

[146] Yeah.

[147] Or a bad place.

[148] Or bad place.

[149] Like, yeah.

[150] Like, I like, like, like, sexy smells.

[151] So I like to be reminded of something that's pleasant.

[152] Like, a woman walks by.

[153] Yeah.

[154] You know, so.

[155] I don't wear, like, hardcore masculine smell.

[156] I like the smell like a rose.

[157] You like to smell like a rose?

[158] I like to smell like something fresh like that.

[159] You know, I'm learning a lot about you, Byron.

[160] Like, yeah, it takes me two hours to pick out my fragrance, you know what?

[161] Hold on.

[162] It takes you two hours to pick out your fragrance.

[163] Is this in a day or like when you go to a fragrance store?

[164] When I went to the fragrance store.

[165] So you're that dude, just wandering around there touching this one.

[166] Yeah, smelling it, yeah.

[167] And if I don't get like a small, like a erection, like a little erection.

[168] A little erection.

[169] Yeah, like if it don't turn me on in a sense, then I just, It's not the one.

[170] Huh.

[171] But you know it, just like you know, like, when you feel the energy of a lady or, you know, whatever you attracted to, or the sound of a motor when it goes by, you know what I mean?

[172] Well, I'm with you on that.

[173] Yeah.

[174] Yeah, they've said that with engines, it actually, like, when you hear an engine revving, it actually raises men's testosterone.

[175] But why?

[176] I wonder why?

[177] It's like, I don't know.

[178] But anybody ever driven a car with pipes, which is rare in.

[179] California to have custom pipes but you think it's rare yeah to be like for as far as like loud and those fucking things are everywhere really yeah they crack down on them here it's not like in george like i'm from georgia where you can get a honda and put an open exhaust i have a quarter inch and take the stuff off yeah see that's stupid if you got a honda yeah you shouldn't do that if you have a four cylinder that's awful i did that before but my friend had a cobra mustang 68 And you can hear that car coming down the street But when you hear it In a real car with a real motor It's almost like a tiger growling or something Or it's just an energy you want to release When you press the gas Yeah You know So that it makes you It just does something to you What's little explosions?

[180] I mean it's control explosions essentially That's what an engine is right It's just the steel explosion container Yeah And all these pistons are in there And they're all firing I don't know I, as much as I know about cars, I really should know more about, like, how engines work.

[181] Like, I really don't know that much.

[182] I kind of know there's some, oh, you got to have a camshaft, and you got to have some cylinders, and there's spark plugs, and ignite some shit, and there's some fire explosions going off.

[183] I don't really know.

[184] No, you know more about me when it comes to cars.

[185] I know the simple, like fuel, air, and spark gets it going.

[186] That's it.

[187] Yeah.

[188] Yeah.

[189] The simplicity of it.

[190] But you got into cars, too.

[191] You know, I like them.

[192] I like them.

[193] I like them, but I can't get into a wheel displacement and, like, offsets and the correct suspension and the steering.

[194] You don't know about all that stuff?

[195] No. No?

[196] I just know what I like, like, body shapes and what it feels like.

[197] But don't you enjoy, like, what it feels like when you drive them?

[198] Yeah.

[199] Like, you have a nice car.

[200] When you drive that thing, like, you know, like, it has, like, a certain feel to the way, like, when you turn corners and stuff like that, is a certain responsiveness to it.

[201] Yeah, that's true.

[202] definitely know that, but it's not, I can't dial it in.

[203] I can't put that in a computer and be like, you know, like I need my suspension adjusted.

[204] Should I go with this?

[205] Coalover sale or this coalover set?

[206] Well, that's a beautiful thing about the internet, you know?

[207] Yeah.

[208] You have a BMW, so you can go to a BMW forum and then you can say, you know, what is the deal with this year three series?

[209] Like, what's the best suspension set up, you know, for handling?

[210] And some people like comfort, some people like hands.

[211] Some people like hands.

[212] Yeah.

[213] That's the real trade -off.

[214] It's because if you really want the car to sit flat around corners, it has to have a little more stiffness to it.

[215] You can feel everything a little bit more.

[216] And I feel that, and I like that.

[217] Like, I had a 9 -44, an 83, which to me ain't the best, but it was the best car of our own.

[218] Those Porsches are sweet, man. Yeah.

[219] Those are underrated cars.

[220] To be able to fill a car, to feel the road through this, like you're on a boat, it's amazing.

[221] A lot of cars don't give you that feeling.

[222] The boat feeling.

[223] Yeah, like, you know the street is uneven.

[224] When you drive it now, instead of just, no, Matt, the flattest, most paved street, you know, you could feel the wave in it.

[225] Oh, because you must have a pretty stiff suspension, right?

[226] Yeah, that car came like that, though.

[227] Yeah, well, those older cars were way more responsive.

[228] They were way lighter, too.

[229] Like, if you go to, like, the really older Porsches, like the old 9 -11s, like the long hood models, I think it was, like, 65 or 64, I think it was, to 73.

[230] Those models, they're really light.

[231] That's a 2 ,000 pound car a lot of times So you feel everything When you bump it around those things It feels more like a go cart You know And I was ignorant with mine Like I had to buy tires for it And they was like It's 83 And I'm like it's 150 horses I take it to the tire place They was like yeah You need these $150 tires And I'm like no fuck that This car has only got 150 horses Let's put some van tires on it You know And I bought two Like four brand new van tires What's a van tire?

[232] Like tires that would go on a van?

[233] Why would you do that?

[234] Because to me it's just a tire.

[235] Oh, that's ridiculous.

[236] Slid on the freeway a bunch of times, just stopping and wasn't used to not having ABS automatic brakes.

[237] And every time it stumped the brakes, you know, the car would slide on the freeway.

[238] But I would stop in enough distance to where it slide and not hit the car.

[239] So you had analog brakes?

[240] No, I didn't.

[241] I didn't have it.

[242] What kind of car was this?

[243] 9 -4 -4.

[244] Those didn't have analog breaks?

[245] Nope.

[246] Not an 83.

[247] That didn't come to like 86?

[248] Hmm.

[249] And you put van tires on.

[250] Jesus Christ, dude.

[251] That's a sacrilege.

[252] That's terrible.

[253] It was.

[254] It was.

[255] But you learn lessons, you know.

[256] You learn lessons.

[257] Anytime you work on your car is cool, but you learn your lessons.

[258] You learned about torque, applying torque to old cars and plastic pieces breaking.

[259] Yeah.

[260] And all type of stuff that, you know, anaphrie.

[261] tastes like what antifreeze tastes like yeah what you drink an antifreeze for you don't drink it but you having to be working on a leak or changing like something and it drips and it gets in your mouth oh i get it it is sweet it's like kool -ate almost does it really taste like kool -it yeah i have no idea it looks disgusting yeah antifreeze looks nasty it looks like like like nuclear fuel or something yeah so yeah you learn your lessons with cars you know why you still can those old ones yeah they're different you know you can actually work on them you can open up the hood there's stuff you can change you can swap out you can go to pet boys or whatever and buy a part new cars man you open up the hood it's just like a computer it's like opening up the back of a iMac or something yeah that's true you have no idea what the fuck's going on there and everything's connected to some sort of uh you know computer management system so yeah three three and the beamer it's three three what Three computers.

[262] Really?

[263] Yeah.

[264] The ignition switch, when you put the key in, talks to this module, reads the key code, and it talks back and allows a car to crank.

[265] But all that have to go through the main computer also.

[266] Wow.

[267] And I know that because I know coding and I study engineering to my senior year.

[268] And I had to snatch a remote start system, faulty remote start system out of the beamer when I got it.

[269] So I had to go under the dash and rewire everything.

[270] You did all that?

[271] Yeah.

[272] Wow, why did you do that?

[273] To take it out.

[274] But did you know what you were doing?

[275] What made you decide to embark on that?

[276] That seems like something I would want to take to a dealer.

[277] Well, I learned how to do install car stereos.

[278] Oh.

[279] My friend, when I was younger, he used to steal car radios, and he taught me. Three basic things to start a radio.

[280] It's like the cars.

[281] You know, power, ground.

[282] You could turn a radio on, and the remote wire, which makes it switch on and off.

[283] But you really don't need a remote wire to test a radio.

[284] Just like you got a jumpstart an engine, you know.

[285] But, you know, you start to learn a pattern of things.

[286] Just like the universe have patterns.

[287] When you learn combustion and stuff like that, the pattern is what's important to me. That makes sense?

[288] No. The universe has a pattern.

[289] Yeah, like the universe, because now I'm on a bigger pattern scale.

[290] you know what i mean but to me yeah the universe has a pattern the way it runs to me you know i mean when it comes to seasons and things like that the revolution of earth around the sun you know but uh stereos also have that pattern that's an interesting comparison well they definitely have like whenever you're dealing with electronics you have to have the power in the ground and then there's a bunch of other stuff that goes on i i installed some stereos when i was younger you know But they were easy back then.

[291] It wasn't that hard.

[292] You know, it wasn't that complicated.

[293] You'd get to everything pretty easily.

[294] Yeah.

[295] The dash pretty easily.

[296] Pull out the existing stereo.

[297] And you just have to figure out where the power is and where the wires connect.

[298] You tie everything up.

[299] It wasn't that hard.

[300] But I would never fuck with a new car.

[301] Like, you know, like a new Lexus or something like that, try to take stereo out of one of those things.

[302] It's more tough.

[303] But if I break it down to you like this.

[304] Coding and stuff is all if and statements.

[305] Right.

[306] If and.

[307] If ands.

[308] So if this go there, if that go here.

[309] One's and zeros.

[310] Right.

[311] If there's one, boom here.

[312] If it's zero boom here.

[313] Right.

[314] And it's just a bunch of that going on.

[315] Right.

[316] Computing at one time.

[317] That's the pattern.

[318] Right.

[319] You know.

[320] That's it.

[321] That's so simple.

[322] Yeah.

[323] Well, it's more complicated than that, right?

[324] There's a lot going on.

[325] But it's a bunch of those all in one.

[326] Well, it's amazing how well these cars work when you really think about it because, like, I have Alexa.

[327] and I have a key that is actually in my wallet.

[328] It's a credit card, and that's my key.

[329] So I don't ever take a key.

[330] I just get in my car, and it always knows it's me. I come near it.

[331] The light goes on near the side mirrors.

[332] Like the side mirrors have like an underside light.

[333] The light goes on, the handle illuminates, let you know you're there.

[334] It opens for you.

[335] You get in, you just press start and go.

[336] It's crazy how often it works.

[337] Like, it never fucks up.

[338] Yeah, and that's cool.

[339] It is cool, but it's, you know, it's, you know, just when you think about how many different things fail in terms of like electronics yeah you know like how many different people's iPhones start fucking up most cars especially when it comes to like your car German engineering or Japanese engineering something like that they're so fucking reliable I mean the amount of times that they actually do fuck up is people complain about it but it's pretty small yeah that's true well I was in school and I learned and studied in 95 when it came to Lexus and Honda the car were pretty much perfect so they had to add features so now have you noticed where everything is about the features and less about you know and it's a cycle of cars having more power and cars saving gas cars having more power that's just a pattern that's just going to happen but yeah it's all about the features now even with phones it's all about the features yeah well for sure I mean, with new cars, too, but it's like you have to have apps and all sorts of different things that your car can do.

[340] Yeah.

[341] But those older cars, the one of the, with the interesting thing is how long some of them last.

[342] Like, I have a friend of them who has a Lexus who has a million miles on it.

[343] It's a million miles.

[344] Is it a GS -300?

[345] I don't remember what model it is.

[346] It's one of the older, bigger ones.

[347] Yeah, the big one.

[348] Yeah, that's the one that's supposed to be an asset car.

[349] Asset car.

[350] Yeah, like it's going to appreciate.

[351] Really?

[352] Because, yeah, you know, the foreign cars are just now, like, starting to appreciate versus the old American cars.

[353] Well, you mean foreign, like, Japanese.

[354] Because, like, German cars have always kind of appreciated, right?

[355] Like, Porsches.

[356] Well, yeah, Porsches and stuff like that.

[357] But as far as, like, the little, like, yeah, Japanese cars and, like, the Lexus.

[358] Well, you know what's really appreciating now, it's kind of interesting, is those old Nissan skylines.

[359] Yeah.

[360] The ones that became the GTRs.

[361] Yeah.

[362] You know, you look at the GTR now, it's very different looking.

[363] It's a very spaceship looking, but the older ones are kind of like more retro and kind of cool looking.

[364] But the oldest ones now are starting to become like really valuable.

[365] Yeah, like the early 90s and in late 80s.

[366] Yeah, it's just hard to find one that's not molested because a lot of people took them and they did shit to the fenders and they fucked with this and fucked with that.

[367] Yeah, I just told a chick about that the other day.

[368] We was talking about cars and I was like, yeah, it's hard to find something.

[369] If you could find one that's not been molested, she was like, what?

[370] And I had explained to what molested was and what retard was and what tranny is.

[371] What retard?

[372] Yeah.

[373] For a car?

[374] Yeah.

[375] Like when it don't turn over, it's like when it don't move forward, like something's holding it back.

[376] Uh -huh.

[377] Yeah.

[378] You call that a retard?

[379] Yeah, it's a retard.

[380] Like, if you try to turn the car and it won't turn over.

[381] Oh, it's like retarded.

[382] Like it's slow.

[383] Yeah.

[384] Like, it won't turn.

[385] Oh, okay.

[386] And it's mostly using like the European.

[387] Hands use it most of the time.

[388] Do they really?

[389] Do they use it as a standard term?

[390] Yeah, like if you read some of the blogs and stuff, it's like, you know, it's amazing.

[391] Do you read blogs on cars?

[392] Yeah, like when I, because I work on my car myself.

[393] So, yeah, anytime you're trying to diagnose a problem, it's more reading than actually going out to figure out what it is.

[394] That's interesting.

[395] So you read all that kind of stuff, but you don't read up about like suspensions or different tire offsets or anything.

[396] that or no how come i don't know i think uh i don't i really never really uh what they call soup the car up or modified it too much you know so everything i get i usually just ride basic and i can have fun with that because i'm not a high -end horsepower guy i just need it to be quick and like turn and handle well and i just live dangerously within that you know you live dangerously yeah within those parameters yeah Well, those cars, like, you know, you have a BMW 3 series.

[397] Like, those cars, they handle great anyway.

[398] Like, my friend Eddie bought one of those a few years back, and he had before that, like, an old shitty Bronco.

[399] And when he got that BMW 3 series, he was like, oh, my God, man. He goes, I like driving now.

[400] He goes, I never knew that driving was actually fun.

[401] Yeah.

[402] Like, I would go, he would go, he goes, I would take Mulholland just for fun.

[403] Like, just decide, I'm going to take it this way.

[404] Yeah.

[405] even though it's longer, just go, you know.

[406] I was in Topanga, like, last month with the car.

[407] A road is a warp now.

[408] It was pure warped.

[409] Your rotors are warped?

[410] My road is a warped.

[411] From what?

[412] From just breaking and, like, just driving fast.

[413] On Topanga?

[414] On Topanga.

[415] How many times did you do it?

[416] That day, just, I was filming something, like a documentary, and I went hard that day.

[417] But it was already warped before I went that day.

[418] You were filming a documentary in your car?

[419] Yeah.

[420] What are you doing?

[421] Somebody was, you know, doing a documentary on creating how comedians create content.

[422] And I was showing them, like, how I get inspired and what gets me in the mood.

[423] And the car is one of those things, you know.

[424] Because when you talk about, like, a set, you're talking about engineering, so kind of, you know, and putting things together.

[425] A comedy set?

[426] Yeah.

[427] And just the balance between the left and right brain, the logic side and the creative side.

[428] and the balance between the two because my style is basically that balance, you know?

[429] Oh, you don't know?

[430] Well, I'm trying to get so you get this by driving, is that what you're saying?

[431] Yeah, I mean, driving is something that's beautiful.

[432] I took them to a junkyard also because the death of a car and the rebirth of parts when you need it.

[433] You know, the life and death, the yin and yang of that.

[434] And I took them to Topanga Canyon because I did acid in Topanga.

[435] and it's a good place to acid yeah so at one part kind of an original though a lot of acid going on tapanga yeah so when you when you out there you got nature right and then when you turn to the street you have all these sports cars you know which is beautiful you got a man -made creation that also has life to it i see how you look at me yeah i'm just trying to follow you yeah i get it i get so we filmed and i took traction control off and It was four of us in that little car, and we just slid around a corner, and those guys were scared, you know.

[436] Yeah, you're sliding on a residential street.

[437] They should be kind of nervous.

[438] They was a little nervous, and I was a little nervous, but that would make it fun, you know.

[439] We did that together.

[440] Yeah, that's tricky, though, because that's kind of a lot of people driving Topanga.

[441] Yeah, and that's what adds to the edginess of it, just like my set, you know.

[442] It's that line.

[443] You could call that edginess.

[444] Or irresponsible on public roads.

[445] You could call that.

[446] Yeah, but I don't, you know, once you get into that, that's like trying to figure out the offset of a tire, you know what I mean?

[447] What do you mean?

[448] Those little details.

[449] Little details of what's fucking dangerous in it?

[450] That's not a little detail.

[451] When you slide in sideways on a residential road?

[452] You think that's a little detail?

[453] Yeah.

[454] That could be the difference between, you know, man, that was close in.

[455] like somebody called 9 -1 -1 you know uh yeah that's irresponsible right isn't it no no it's fine it's edge no worries just edgy yeah just a little sliding around losing control your car in public roads no big deal it's like when you we would be at high school at parties and like a gun would come out oh jesus and you thought the party was fun but when that pistol came out that's when real excitement happens in high school dudes are pulling guns out in your parties?

[456] Yeah.

[457] Like, a party wasn't good unless the cops showed up.

[458] Jesus Christ.

[459] So, yeah, if the cops didn't show up, it was all right.

[460] And so when guns were getting pulled out, what were they getting pulled out for?

[461] People probably was arguing about something.

[462] How many times did you see this?

[463] Not a lot of times.

[464] It's just what happened.

[465] It's just what happened regularly.

[466] Like, you know, at the nightclubs, when you start going to nightclubs, these things were happening, you know?

[467] Yeah, what do you think about all this shit lately?

[468] It's seems like every couple of days there's some sort of a mass shooting well the the problem with being a black guy from those areas in your 30s that's just what happens you know I mean so um but in your 20s any man really to me in the 20s is more fight is like that military like we're not going to take this yada yada yada but you know and I can imagine like I'd be imagine sometimes I look at in the funny way like to my grandma this is nothing you know what I mean?

[469] because they were like hanging people and throw them over the bridge in the county where she's from and shoot them with shotguns for fun so this is like you know to me and her mind she's like oh they need an excuse now who was doing this what do you mean like they were throwing people hanging people over a bridge and shooting them for fun yeah because I'm from the south so things are a little you know a little old school sometimes it's not that long ago when certain things happened you know like Jim Crow and like these things aren't that old like you still hear the stories you're you're you're brought up uh I don't know I want to say racist but you brought up to like these people are the enemy you know or be careful when you're on their side of town or like they say you might not come back home when you leave the house so what you're talking about is white people doing fucked up shit to black people like this was something that was so common that it was just talked about all the time.

[470] Yeah, yeah.

[471] And you still had nice people, you know.

[472] It's an honesty in it that I don't see anywhere else because when I got out here, people act like racism didn't exist.

[473] And it affected comedy, like, three years ago, you know.

[474] Who the fuck was acting like racism didn't exist?

[475] People would be like, oh, it's not, come on, it's not that bad at all.

[476] Who is saying that?

[477] People would say that.

[478] It's not that bad?

[479] Yeah, like, those, like, we don't.

[480] Well, people love to say that it does no. racism because Obama's black.

[481] That's hilarious.

[482] That's one of my favorite ones.

[483] Yeah, like, people, and I was like, well, I'm still shell -shock, but my situation is different because I was treated unfair within my own community.

[484] Then I left my community, you know, like, I had the whole light -skinned dark, my sister light skin, fair skin, I'm dark skin, you know.

[485] So you were treated poorly within your own community because your skin's too dark?

[486] Well, I was, because of that one thing and, you know, single mother being looked upon differently and we're in the Bible belt so it's a lot of like not having nice clothes and bullying right and then I got sent to a white school while I was spat at my first year you know I mean so to me it was like this whole this whole world is crazy you know yeah that's a weird thing isn't it the the racism inside the black community between light skin and dark skin people well it is until you go to like brazil and you see um or they all Brazilian and see the racism amongst Brazilians or you know you I start hanging out with other cultures and start seeing the separation within other cultures and saying that what I call a pattern of it's just a human behavior well there's definitely a pattern in human behavior trying to find groups that they belong to and then alienating isolating themselves yeah from the other groups yeah that's a that's unfortunate thing that people do when they do it The feminist thing to me is separating men from women and then you got the you know the gays and then you got what's going on between the black people and the cops you know what I mean which is two groups that are opposing each other more so now than ever so you think feminism is separating men from women that's what they're doing I think it's a slight shifting of especially with the guys, you know what I mean?

[487] Oh, male feminists?

[488] Male feminists and...

[489] Male feminists are barely real.

[490] It's weird.

[491] It's a weird situation, you know?

[492] I need to just park this joint, keep up with you.

[493] Male feminists, they're seriously barely real.

[494] They're barely real.

[495] There's a very tiny percentage of men that are actually male feminists.

[496] The smallest percentage are actually, like, adhere to those ideologies.

[497] The vast majority are doing what's called virtue -saciously.

[498] signaling.

[499] Michael Shermer's got the best expression.

[500] I wonder if that's his expression.

[501] I see it everywhere.

[502] I see it more often now than ever before, I think, since he's been on this podcast.

[503] But what they're doing is just trying to make everybody think that they're amazing.

[504] They're so virtuous, they're so ethical and so moral, and so open -minded and fair in their thinking that they've, you know, they identify as a feminist.

[505] But most of it is guys that just can't get any pussy.

[506] Well, I thought I was a true I thought I was a true feminist, but I was talking to this young lady about how beautiful women are, and I was like, they like, I like to be in place with beautiful women.

[507] They like cars.

[508] What's one is?

[509] I'm good.

[510] I'm good.

[511] You sure?

[512] Yeah.

[513] And she was like, you objectify women.

[514] And I was like, well, I guess I objectify women in it, you know?

[515] You see that thing?

[516] Jamie, you see the thing I tweeted the other day from Cosmo, Cosmopolitan magazine, side -by -side cover.

[517] It was a retweet from the amazing atheist.

[518] Ha, ha, weed.

[519] Side -by -side cover.

[520] One of them was like men who objectify women are the effing worst.

[521] And then in the very next cover, it showed, see if it's identifying men's bulges during the Olympics.

[522] Yeah.

[523] It's hilarious.

[524] That's hypocrites.

[525] Look at that.

[526] Confirmed.

[527] Confirmed.

[528] Men who objectify women are effing horrible.

[529] 36 Summer Olympic Bulges that deserve gold And it's just guys' abs with their You know Speedos looking at their cocks It's hilarious People are fucking hilarious I agree And I feel like You know when I talk I try to be a truthful as possible But I only learn through my ignorance You know what I mean You only learn Well I don't say only learn through my ignorance But you learn a lot from shit that you didn't know From messing up You know what I mean?

[530] Yeah or yeah Or not knowing Yeah I mean, I think there's a, I think feminism and all these things, this is like a giant scale, right?

[531] Yeah.

[532] And then there's, there's feminism that totally makes sense to me. I think there's a lot of women that, um, they do get treated unfairly.

[533] They work with assholes who just want to fuck them or want to treat them like shit because they're a woman or they have power over them and they know they can pull some stuff on them that they can't pull on men.

[534] I think that's a, that's a hundred percent.

[535] And I think there's a lot of women that are awesome.

[536] They're cool, they're creative, they're funny, they're powerful.

[537] And, you know, to call it feminism or whatever it is, they're just awesome humans.

[538] Yeah, that's true.

[539] And they happen to be women.

[540] You know, so I think, like, in some ways, the idea of feminism is to recognize those women for what they are, just awesome human beings.

[541] And to sort of shield them and protect them against a lot of sexism, a lot of misogyny.

[542] A lot of shit that gets directed in their direction.

[543] And I know it's real.

[544] I've seen it.

[545] It's 100 % real.

[546] Yeah, that's true.

[547] There's a lot of sexism.

[548] Just like anybody that would say to you that there's no racism.

[549] That is fucking preposterous.

[550] Of course there's racism.

[551] There's racism amongst black people against other black people.

[552] Yeah, I experienced that.

[553] I think there's just ignorance, just foolish people.

[554] And I think in a lot of ways, it's not even the people's fault.

[555] A lot of what we are is a measurement of who our parents were, who their parents were.

[556] the neighborhoods that we lived in, the people that we were exposed to, and the think process, the thought process that surrounds these areas is super difficult to escape.

[557] Yeah.

[558] You know, it's just really hard for people to think outside of the box.

[559] It's easier now because you might live in a bad neighborhood with a bunch of silly people that don't think very well, but you have access to the Internet now.

[560] So now you can start to take any other ideas and consider those ideas and say, well, maybe these fucking people around me are assholes.

[561] Well, the problem with the Internet is, and I got friends and family that don't have the thought of going to the Internet, you know.

[562] That's the problem with the Internet?

[563] Oh, not the Internet, but with, you know, that situation, you know, yeah.

[564] So if I have a conversation with somebody and I was like, why don't you just Google it?

[565] And they're like, what?

[566] I'm asking you.

[567] Yeah, you're hanging around with silly people.

[568] It's 2016.

[569] This is just people I'm related to, you know what I mean?

[570] Yeah.

[571] There's nothing you can do about that.

[572] No, but it's got to, like, you've got to leave them behind.

[573] It's tough, though.

[574] It's tough, it's tough, man. I mean, I have left, but I realized once I left home, the only person that's educated or the person who thought outside the box is gone.

[575] You were the only person that was thinking outside the box.

[576] For the most part, yeah.

[577] Yeah.

[578] Well, what do they think about you being like this sort of subversive comedian, you know?

[579] You're this, like, open -minded, free speaking dude who says wild shit on stage, you know?

[580] They don't get it.

[581] Do they think you're funny?

[582] No. To be honest.

[583] No. I'm here to tell them they're wrong.

[584] No, they don't.

[585] You're very funny.

[586] You can just tell them by the look in their face when they see it.

[587] It's not what they, it's not world star hip hop.

[588] Yeah.

[589] Is that what they're expecting?

[590] Yeah, that's what they found funny.

[591] Look at this dude who gets slapped, you know.

[592] Oh, okay.

[593] Yeah, so it's just a different, I've socially, economically, mentally crossed over you know right but it happened so long ago that so you feel like you can't relate sometimes when talking to them well in a sense but the thing you know there's things you find interesting they might not find interesting yeah and there's always the thing in the black community when they was like how desegregation ruined the black community because it took the doctors and lawyers out of the community but them niggas don't want to hang around the niggas them doctors ain't trying to sit around motherfuckers that drink alcohol all day you know what I mean and they're trying to talk about how to invest and what percentage the bank returns versus you know IRA or something like that so I understand why these things happen now why people move out yeah you know but that's the journey that I'm on and then I try to go back and explain those things you know There's amazing aspects to all sorts of different ethnicities, different parts of the world, different groups of humans.

[594] There's like amazing aspects of their culture that they have that is going to be weird if all that stuff gets lost.

[595] But I think ultimately what human beings eventually are going to have to figure out is the only things that matter are like, I mean, it's really like basically, straight Martin Luther King, Jr. Yeah.

[596] Judge a man by the content of his character or a woman.

[597] Who are you?

[598] Yeah.

[599] Like who, but we can identify each other so easily by what we look like or where we're from.

[600] It's so easy.

[601] So so many people are like so proud of being from a certain part of the world.

[602] And in some place, I think, in some ways I think it's kind of cool, like Armenians.

[603] Yeah.

[604] Talk some shit about Armenian for Armenians.

[605] They'll smack the fuck out of you.

[606] They don't play, man. They're fucking loyal to that.

[607] even live there anymore man that's like being someone who's really into being American and living in South America you know if you talk shit if you talk to shit to an expat like that lives in South America you know if you're like man America is shit yeah America's fucked up it's ruined the world he's like yeah that's where I'm here is where I'm here bitch yeah I got the fuck out I got the fuck out because I didn't want to deal with it anymore that you can't like there's something cool about that these people that come over here and they they're unapologetically like one of things I like about Armenians.

[608] I don't mean to, I'm not picking on them.

[609] I'm complimenting them.

[610] They're unapologetically masculine.

[611] Yeah, that's true.

[612] Those dudes will wear fucking wife beaters, tank tops with gold chains hanging down.

[613] It's hilarious.

[614] They're like, they rock it's so old school.

[615] Yeah.

[616] I like it in a lot of ways.

[617] Walk with the chest out or yeah.

[618] Yeah, they look like they look through you sometimes.

[619] See, I don't want to lose that because I think there's something cool about what that, that, that community represents i don't want to lose that i don't think you you lose it um i hope not well i mean i'm from a situation like i got african friends and when we met they had to sneak me in their home um because i'm not african right really yeah because you're from america yeah what part of africa are they from Nigeria okay it's funny like saying saying someone's african it's like do you know how fucking big africa is yeah that is true there's so many different countries in it I was, I think it was Zimibia.

[620] I was watching some documentary about Zimibia last night.

[621] I think it's Zimibia.

[622] Namibia, Nambia, maybe Namibia, extremely underpopulated.

[623] It's enormous.

[624] It's like bigger than Texas by like one quarter, which is Texas is fucking huge.

[625] That's huge.

[626] So this country is bigger than Texas by more than one quarter.

[627] And I think it only has like two million people in it.

[628] And they were, they were showing the little, this one village that they visited, how little rainfall there was.

[629] They had one inch of rain in three years.

[630] It's crazy, man. When you look into how these people live, like, I like watching documentaries that highlight human beings that just easily could be you or me, easily.

[631] If just this happened and that happened and our mother gave birth in this weird part of the world.

[632] And they're just people, man. They're waving.

[633] These kids are real playful.

[634] waving to everybody they're waving to the camera they're so excited that the camera people are there to film this and they're out there cooking and it's so dry it's so dry you know you're looking at them like where are they getting their water where's the fucking water there's no water this is crazy they had a um on this uh documentary they had a problem it was a show it's actually called uncharted it's this guy named jim shocky and he travels all over the world and he's a professional hunter and he visits these communities a lot of times he's helping people like he had to they had to take out some crocodiles and it become addicted to eating people or accustomed to eating people in this one they had to stop a hyena that was killing all their livestock this hyena would come in and just mangled their livestock and uh they had to get up in the middle of the night and then drive there super early in the morning before the sun came up to observe this hyena because he would only be there for like a few moments in the early early morning and then we'd bolt but it looks like a werewolf like this werewolf that's tearing apart this cow and i'm watching this and i'm like you mad these people are living in these little houses near this this fucking thing is out there just mangling their cows they have no water it's dry as fuck it's so fascinating man anyway that is a country in africa yeah of course there's other countries that are tropical there's other country it means africa's it is insane how big that place is i haven't even been i was going to go this summer but i found out that you have to take malaria shots and i'm like i'm not giving malaria medication to my kids fuck that just fuck yeah those things shots i'm not a fan of uh the malaria ones are supposed to be particularly abrasive on your body and just i don't want to see my kids walking around poison just because i thought it would be cool to go see an elephant in its natural environment Take a picture I can't lift my arms I mean I think it would be fucking cool to say for sure Yeah Africa The Africans I met was so real But they broke down the The white man wolf theory to me The white man wolf Yeah What's that?

[635] Like you're not full -blooded You're not African no more You're a white man's wolf You like their pet Oh that's you That you would be the white man's wolf That's why I'm in the low In the community You're black people saying No we're not African Americans because they consider themselves African -Americans Yeah, I had a buddy in mind I went to Africa Another black guy He was telling me the same thing He's like, dude He goes, don't ever call yourself An African -American He goes, because you go over there He goes, they don't like you He goes, they don't like you They don't want to see you And they're jealous And they get angry at you And they want to fuck you up And I go, really?

[636] Yeah, he goes, Don't ever think you're going back to Africa No But it's weird Because you see people Holding up the fist And all this other stuff But we're so far removed I consider us a group of people that you know the things have happened in our past so we're afraid of that but we don't know how future looks either well it seems cool to have this idea that there's africa and it's like like fucking narnia or like it's like uh it's like the the blue people that lived in um the fucking avatar what was that planet the planet they lived on i forgot the name of it those trees were beautiful yeah it's like it reminded me of unobtainium Pandorum?

[637] Pandora?

[638] Pandora.

[639] Yeah.

[640] Pandora?

[641] Pandora.

[642] Pandora.

[643] Pandora.

[644] Yeah.

[645] Like the app.

[646] That's hilarious.

[647] But I remember, like, the way people would think of Native American life.

[648] Like, it's really similar.

[649] They would think they'd have this idyllic existence.

[650] It was beautiful.

[651] They lived in harmony with nature.

[652] They only killed what they needed.

[653] And there's no war.

[654] Like, I've had, like, bizarre conversation with hippies about North America, about Native Americans.

[655] Yeah.

[656] And not that I'm anti -Native American, I'm by far the opposite.

[657] I think it is insanely cool that this place was populated just a few hundred years ago by people that were essentially living the way people lived tens of thousands of years ago.

[658] Yeah, that's true.

[659] And they were successful at it.

[660] They didn't even have horses, man. They didn't have horses until European settlers.

[661] A lot of people don't realize.

[662] What's even more fucking weird about that is that horses actually evolved in North America.

[663] Horses started in North America and made their way to Africa on land masses and became zebras for the course of millions of years.

[664] This is one of the weirdest things about Plains Indians and horses is that they didn't really have them.

[665] But there's some belief, this is all from this guy, Dan Flores, who's a...

[666] I guess he would call it an environmental historian.

[667] I think that's what he's called.

[668] But I'm reading one of his books on coyotes.

[669] But when he was talking about North America, that they had almost like almost like a myth about horses.

[670] Like it's possible that at one point in time, they had domesticated horses somewhere in North America, like, you know, tens of thousands of years ago.

[671] But this is all like pre -Ease Age, Ice Age hits, ice age thaws out, like a lot.

[672] A lot of shit has gone down here.

[673] But those people, they did not live in avatar existence, is my point.

[674] Like, Native Americans would go to war with each other.

[675] They'd fucking kill each other.

[676] They'd do horrible things.

[677] The ones in the Great Lakes area, they did a lot of cannibalism.

[678] Yeah.

[679] The Nes Perce, I think, the name of the Indian they were talking about.

[680] They would, like, kill their enemies and shit.

[681] They would find trappers and kill them and eat them.

[682] Yeah.

[683] You know, like, it was not this beautiful world.

[684] But AIDS do the same thing, but I think it's just a matter of resources, right?

[685] That's how I look at it like...

[686] Sure.

[687] Yeah.

[688] It's also the same reason why racism exists.

[689] It's like people get in this us versus them thing where they want these people, whoever these people are.

[690] They want, you know, they want everybody has to be on this team and fuck everybody else.

[691] Because that's the only way they feel like they can survive.

[692] Yeah.

[693] That's the old way, you know?

[694] But what's interesting to me, I think, is that in this day and age, that old way is just melting.

[695] in front of our eyes because people understand each other.

[696] How many white people have black lives movement hashtaged on their fucking Twitter page?

[697] A fuckload, man. How many people today are racist and compared to 100 years ago?

[698] It's probably radically lower.

[699] It's amazing like how white women want to fuck black dudes because of this thing.

[700] So in a way it's not for nothing.

[701] You know what it's like to?

[702] It's like you're a first liner.

[703] You're a first responder.

[704] Like the 9 -11 Fireman, they got mad pussy after 9 -11.

[705] Yeah.

[706] Those guys were superstars.

[707] Girls would just fuck firemen.

[708] For real.

[709] Especially if a girl worked in a building that was close to where the towers went down, those guys were goddamn heroes.

[710] All their hero genes fired up.

[711] I wonder if that's what makes men want to do it in the first place.

[712] They know that women are going to think they're heroes and fuck them.

[713] I think so.

[714] I think guys, like, want to be the alpha, you know, in a certain...

[715] I found my place to be an alpha, you know what I mean?

[716] So if I was a black guy, I would probably play up racism big time, just for white pussy however you can play it up it's girl it's chicks that that told me yeah you just want to make out with black they feel there's nothing they could do so they just want to make out with black there's nothing they could do they feel like they feel so whatever about what's happening oh that they want to just make out with black just to make it you know contribute somehow and I was like you know well there's a few videos that have come out this year to just every where everybody's got to go okay Well, now Give me an excuse now Explain it now There's a few that's like the one that the guy Got shot in his car Reaching for his wallet With his wife and kid in the car Tell me these things don't exist Because everybody was like Ah, that's how they said it went down But you know the guy probably said something Or he went and reached for something Or maybe he had a record Maybe they knew this guy was a dangerous No Nope Nope Nope Just a dude complying, reaching for his wallet, and gets unloaded on by some fucking psycho, some stressed out PTSD'd, who knows what the fuck is going on on that guy's head.

[717] You know, one of the things I thought was interesting, they had this video online recently that I saw, it was, they took this guy who was an active, he was a big time detractor of the police, who was talking about how horrible the police are.

[718] And they invited him to go through, like, one of their police training safety courses.

[719] Yeah.

[720] And what they do is they, you're supposed to determine when to shoot or when you can get shot, when someone can be a threat, when you have to shoot them.

[721] It was fucking amazing.

[722] It's amazing to watch because this guy in just a few of these scenarios started freaking out.

[723] Like, he got shot in a couple of them.

[724] And when they shoot you, they shoot at the ground in front of you with a blank.

[725] Like, like, so he had to realize.

[726] that this is how quick a cop can get shot by a psycho.

[727] Yeah.

[728] And so there's different times where he got pulled over, where he pulled someone over, or where he was handling this one guy in a parking lot.

[729] Yeah.

[730] And the guy went behind the car real quick and then came out and shot him within a second.

[731] You know, he's like, sir, can I see some identification, sir?

[732] Yeah, man, hey, man, I'm just working.

[733] Dude, I'm just getting my stuff here.

[734] And he goes in the back and pulls out a gun and shoots him.

[735] He's like, this happened.

[736] This is an actual scenario.

[737] Yeah.

[738] This has happened.

[739] It's probably happened a hundred times.

[740] A bunch of times.

[741] Yeah.

[742] So they have to, they are always fucking like this, man. They're always like, and you know how people are.

[743] Some people like, oh my God, we're almost out of gas.

[744] Oh my God, we're almost out of gas.

[745] We're almost out of gas.

[746] What are we going to do?

[747] What are we going to do?

[748] And you're like, will you shut the fuck up?

[749] If we get out of gas, we'll walk to a goddamn gas station.

[750] It'll take us 20 minutes.

[751] We'll get some gas.

[752] We'll come back.

[753] Don't cry.

[754] Jesus Christ.

[755] Yeah, I mean, yeah, I know somebody talked to a cop and they said that when how they started working and then 11 years later.

[756] Oh, yeah.

[757] Going into those areas where these things always happen.

[758] And after years and years, it just wears on you.

[759] For sure.

[760] And I know from the area, just me growing up in situations, you know what I mean?

[761] Yeah.

[762] I wouldn't want to go back.

[763] I barely go back there, you know.

[764] So, but it do give you nerves, your nerves heightened.

[765] It naturally kicks in.

[766] 100%.

[767] You know, and like, yeah.

[768] And some people can't handle those nerves.

[769] Mm -mm.

[770] You learn how to breathe quietly.

[771] You don't know, like somebody, you can walk down.

[772] the street and somebody can pull a little pistol out on you and those things those i've been driving down the street with my ex lady and she was talking and i was like get down because i saw a guy draw on a corner and shoot across the street at another guy oh jesus and as a gun went up we drove under the the the the fire right it was long it was long oh my god and as it went up we went under oh my god we got the second shot off and i drove and i was like man that was crazy like i'm guy like we made it like get up we made it that was crazy and she's like you can call the police and I was like for what and she liked to tell what happened and I was like no I don't want to be and that's how crazy is the way you don't even want to be involved because you got to go to the cops and I end up calling the police and um there's like can you describe the victim I was like white t -shirt blue jeans that's all I said and they was like was he black and they was just a long pause it was a long pause And they were like, sir, is he black?

[773] And I was like, man, you know that nigga's black.

[774] I just hono phone up.

[775] I just hono the phone up, man. It felt weird, but yeah, because I realized, yeah, like, yeah, it's just weird things that happen.

[776] But it's interesting what goes on because, like, I met guys who shot at people before and shot people.

[777] So if you hear anything about my set, you know, I know both sides.

[778] You know what I mean?

[779] So it's just interesting.

[780] Out of a dude you know that shot people, how many of them got caught?

[781] One.

[782] Oh, my God.

[783] One, because he ended up shooting my best friend's sister and a baby.

[784] And a passion crime.

[785] Oh, Jesus.

[786] And his last words to me was, he was weird.

[787] I was leaving the house one night.

[788] He was in a project.

[789] You know, he played, you know, play cars and shit.

[790] Like, I don't really went into that like that.

[791] But I remember leaving, and he was just on the steps, and he looked up at me. And he's like, hey, man, he was like, you're smart.

[792] You got a chance to get out of here.

[793] And it was one of those weird moments, you know.

[794] And he was like, man, just keep doing you.

[795] No matter how weird or whatever, people say, you all just keep doing you type situation.

[796] He's like, I love you.

[797] And I don't use love like that.

[798] So I was just like, all right.

[799] You know, yeah, all right.

[800] And then I left.

[801] And then that was my last time, Sam.

[802] you know how long after that did he do the crime probably like a week or two because I was out of town and I got back and it was just yeah there's war zones that's a war zone I mean when you're in an area that has a lot of shootings so much so that you drive under a car and you don't even want to call the cops you know like if you saw something like that in Beverly Hills if you were an average person who's like a successful accountant yeah who has a nice home in Beverly Hills and you're driving to your house and someone shoots over your car fucking for sure you're calling the police right because it's rare yeah doesn't happen there very often that is if you think how many people die during wartime every year how many find this out Jamie how many I wonder if this is possible to know I was gonna say how many shootings occur in Iraq and Afghanistan how many military involved exchanges of firearms and then compare it to how many people get killed in America every day from gunfire and you know everybody's like well is this a gun right tissue I don't no just not just looking at what's happening like looking at where they're like super dangerous spots and and in the mindset and the lack of the so -called lack of resources people think they have yeah um yeah i see it all when you say lack of resource you mean no hope for the future or just fear base or i got to eat you know i mean like the power company don't care that you know you all love each other and you're trying to go get better your life exactly um and sometimes your lady your girl don't even want to hear that either i think that is a big part of what keeps these communities exactly the same way you know there's a dude named eddie wong he's a chef and an author and he's done a bunch of cool shit and he's a funny dude he's got a show on vice and he brought up this idea of universal basis basic income and he's like you know just giving people enough money every year so they live you know like you don't have to worry about your bills you know everything's paid for yeah everything after that you have to work for and I remember thinking that is fucking ridiculous you can't give people think people are gonna get fucking lazy they're just not that is not that's not gonna work yeah but now the more I think about it the more I think of that might be like the best way to curb crime, to curb need, to curb people doing things at a total desperation, to curb a certain amount of despair that some people feel.

[803] And then from there, it might be like a jumpstart for people pursuing other ideas that might successfully contribute to the economy.

[804] I don't know enough about the economy to really comment.

[805] I'm just reading a bunch of different things that a bunch of people have said about it.

[806] And I'm like, wow.

[807] So it might actually make sense.

[808] in terms of law enforcement, in terms of unemployment, like all sorts of different things where you would have to factor in like where the money would come from.

[809] And I was like, wow, it's kind of counterintuitive.

[810] But once you look into it, you're like, look, how many of these people that are super desperate and don't have money for bills, there's no jobs?

[811] How many those people would relax a lot if they got X amount of dollars a year?

[812] Like, whatever it is, they could survive.

[813] I know, like, with myself, I'm like, I'm going to run.

[814] people that make money now and they like money is not important but I'm like you made it to the mountain top already you know what I mean you made a certain income but when you surviving you don't have time to feel things you don't have time to be philosophical to involve yeah or to feel like I'm sad you know I mean like or these things like I even look at my mom differently now because she had at one point lost their children you know and she had to get them back and she raised that's in survival mode.

[815] So she never thought of reading a self -help book or learn how the money managed to do all those things.

[816] You know what I mean?

[817] And me and my sister at a place, now we could do those things, you know?

[818] We could talk about, you know, how we feel or even look back and see where we went wrong.

[819] And that's just a luxury that, you know.

[820] I should what you're saying.

[821] A mother who was a father, a mother, a woman who becomes a guy and take those roles on.

[822] It does something to her emotionally.

[823] you know what I mean?

[824] You know, so when her kids is gone now, she might have a chance to grow and see what things went wrong if she doesn't feel it's too late.

[825] Right.

[826] Yeah.

[827] When in survival mode, and I try to tell people that who try to talk about these issues but never been in the situation before and feel the need to go out and see why people get out and don't look back or they try to help people and people concentrate on other things, the reason why.

[828] Yeah.

[829] That, yeah, the survival mode is very primal.

[830] You know, the law, the law don't matter in survival mode or, yeah, you can take things.

[831] You can run up in the store and take things because you're just that hungry, you know what I mean?

[832] Yeah.

[833] So, yeah, I've seen and been a part of all these things.

[834] You like clothes.

[835] You want luxury stuff to the point that you would take it.

[836] You know, go to a mall and take a polo shirt.

[837] Yeah.

[838] You know what I mean?

[839] you know so yeah yeah survival mode is a place that most people have no idea right most people are just guessing me included just guessing well it's people that is in a situation even worse than mine and um yeah you see what it it does the people and after a while they kind of like it they might make six figures but they still go to the projects because it's exciting it's exciting one and two they can't communicate with people who've been making 100 ,000 their whole life or grew up in that situation well you know that's a big thing with people that go to war people that have been to war they for some reason even though it was awful and they saw friends die it was the best time of their life yeah it's like there's something about living knowing that any moment you could be dead that makes the live moments the moments when you're not dead more special and then you come back here and everything's sort of muted yeah it's toned down you know i think that's why a lot of rich people they start if they don't have any meaning in their life they don't have a thing that they're really into they just start buying shit they just start collecting houses and boats and they're just trying to figure out there's got to be something exciting to do here there's got to be something yeah you know well once i started making like 30 000 a year doing stand -up it changed me because i came i wasn't invited car thing and built everything up from there.

[840] You living out of the car?

[841] You were doing that?

[842] Yeah, for like a couple of weeks, you know, but...

[843] Everybody's got a cool story that makes it.

[844] Yeah.

[845] You might make it then.

[846] I know a lot of people, like Rhonda Rousey, she had a cool living out of car story.

[847] Oh, man. That was a very interesting interview.

[848] A lot of people...

[849] Very emotional, you know?

[850] Yeah, man. A lot of people had to live in at your car.

[851] Yeah, but to me, that's kind of normal for L .A., but I figured, I think I made it, part of me think I made when I graduated from college, because I was a first graduate from college.

[852] And I was like, I got to unlearn everything I was taught now.

[853] How so?

[854] Because it's institutionalized thinking.

[855] To me, there's no difference between...

[856] You mean the university?

[857] Yeah, there's no difference between college and prison sometimes to me. What?

[858] It's way different.

[859] You can quit college.

[860] Well, yeah, you can't.

[861] You can't.

[862] That's true.

[863] But, you know, both get money for how many occupants they have.

[864] Right.

[865] I look at those stats and they teach you a certain...

[866] It's a society within both, you know?

[867] Then even the military, because I went to Afghanistan.

[868] 13 days.

[869] I think colleges are incredibly important, but I think that like all things, when the world around them evolves quicker than they do, it creates issues.

[870] And I think a lot of what you're seeing, like I've talked to some kids who go to school that are taking these classes from ridiculous left -wing professors who are basically communists, you know, and there's a lot of them.

[871] It's not just a few.

[872] And this left -wing thinking is like super.

[873] uber prevalent on campus to the point where it's like distorting kids versions and views of the world and it's it's trickle down it's the students it's the faculty there's a there's a lot going on it's ultimately a lot of it is like the people at the very top of it all it's really kind of fascinating because those people are shaping people's minds yeah and they're involved in a lot of ways from what like comes out of that in a cultural sense but there's a lot of backlash because that too there's a lot of people that are going to those schools and now are reading online accounts of what these professors do.

[874] And a lot of these professors have zero experience in the world itself.

[875] They just live in academia.

[876] They get the degree.

[877] They go from getting a degree to teaching and they teach and they just, they don't enter the world.

[878] So they live in this world of these sort of esoteric ideas or these philosophies that they would like to be real, but might not necessarily be real.

[879] and they teach kids I was kind of fortunate in that because I like I test I took some weird tests in elementary school that sent me to these schools upper middle class high school they just figured out you're smart yeah but it alienated me from my community my class like my we got bused to a school so everybody in my apartment complex got on the busing with the school and then we got separated to where it was like five black people in this class and when we would go to lunch we have to walk on different sides of the hall and everybody my neighbor would just mush me coming through the hall and stuff.

[880] So things started to happen then.

[881] How could they not see that coming?

[882] That almost seems like one of those government experiments, like a psychological Tuskegee experiment.

[883] You know what I mean?

[884] In a sense, but what happened was by the time, like my professors were like rich millionaires because they taught the subject that they did well in.

[885] Right.

[886] you know what I would say like a comedy comedian I mean a comedy class except that that teacher made it right you know I mean um so they write books and shit they write their own books they got millions you know they're doing this because they want to you know they retired already I think my stat teacher retired at 30 you know I mean 30 yeah he wrote his own book and I didn't like that because I couldn't steal his book you couldn't steal it uh -uh why not because he wrote his own book.

[887] So we had to buy it from him and he downloaded it somehow.

[888] Oh, that's interesting.

[889] So he sold you his own.

[890] He had to sell his books every time of class.

[891] He taught, ooh, that's tricky.

[892] So I went to college, my freshman year, and then had books because in high school, they provided books.

[893] And I didn't know you needed books.

[894] So I made money to buy a book, and they got book buy -back programs.

[895] But they give you 25 % of what the books worth.

[896] Right.

[897] And I just couldn't get into that.

[898] So I had to steal books, and I would sell the books at 50%.

[899] You would steal them and sell them?

[900] Yeah.

[901] And would you steal a physical copy of the book?

[902] Where would you get them?

[903] From the bookstore.

[904] Just snag them from the bookstore?

[905] Yeah, because the thing that the alarm they had, or the alarm, and it's funny because the engineering book school, but it never was hooked up properly.

[906] Ah!

[907] So, and I was thin enough just to put it in my waistband and walk out.

[908] This is all very alleged.

[909] Never really happened.

[910] Yeah, it's never really happened.

[911] You know what I mean?

[912] This is just fiction for a podcast.

[913] If I was to write a book, though, this is how it would be done.

[914] Right.

[915] But I didn't do it like on massive.

[916] I didn't do massive because I know what grand theft is.

[917] Right.

[918] You know what I mean?

[919] So it's only a few people that I supplied.

[920] And it's easy.

[921] You buy you getting it for 50 % and then you can have that money back at the end of the semester.

[922] Yeah.

[923] That's a good deal.

[924] Yeah, that's a pretty good deal.

[925] Win -win.

[926] Except stealing The stealing part But I allegedly Might have gotten College books that way too Really?

[927] A lot of them Super common Well today kids can just Download most things Right Yeah that's true It must be really hard For them to sell their books now Because kids could just go To get to like a bit torrent Because especially if there's like A college course That's in a major university Most likely someone's gonna upload it To a torrent Right?

[928] But it wasn't torrent I went to school When Napster dropped So we was a group Oh shit That pushed all that forward.

[929] I remember Napster.

[930] Yeah.

[931] I remember the crazy argument about Napster.

[932] I remember I had to sit back and go, I remember very clearly when that Metallica guy got involved.

[933] Lars Ulrich got involved and he was, you know, saying that this is stealing and he was going crazy and freaking out.

[934] I remember literally sitting back because I was listening to it on serious satellite radio, I think it was at the time or something.

[935] I was listening to something on my car.

[936] What year was that?

[937] Like, what year was Napster?

[938] Oh, 2.

[939] Was there even serious satellite radio?

[940] Am I imagine this?

[941] It might have been the radio.

[942] Actual radio.

[943] XM was right around that same time, I think.

[944] It might have been, whoever it was out here.

[945] It might have been Howard Stern.

[946] I was listening to something.

[947] And they were talking about it.

[948] And I remember thinking, just stepping back and going, whoa, this is a new thing.

[949] Like, people have figured out how to get stuff for free online that normally would be like 20 bucks or 10 bucks or whatever the fuck it is.

[950] And I remember thinking, Whoa, this is a new door that just opened up.

[951] I remember, like, sitting back in my chair.

[952] I was in my car.

[953] I remember the fucking parking lot.

[954] I was going to buy dog food.

[955] And I was listening to this.

[956] And I remember I sat back and I went, oh, man, this is a moment.

[957] Yeah.

[958] This is a real moment in our culture.

[959] Well, before then, look, our dorms didn't even have the Internet.

[960] Right?

[961] You didn't have the Internet?

[962] You still had to go to the computer lab.

[963] So check this out.

[964] Check this out.

[965] This was the hustle.

[966] We met two white guys.

[967] One guy broke his foot when he was young And his dad gave him an old computer And he started working a little car game And from that he learned programming Right And he said we can get him access to a computer lab He can supply our rooms With the internet Because they were wired but it wasn't hooked up So he can get the numbers And if and statements and make the thing communicate with one another So a few of us in the dorms had internet Whoa, you got hacked the dorm.

[968] It's like an episode of MASH.

[969] And this is the problem with learning how to learn how to hustle and survival mode.

[970] You learn how to get stuff for free, but you don't learn how to monetize it all the time.

[971] But what we did was we started selling like CDs and stuff like that.

[972] You know what I mean?

[973] So you download stuff and then sell CDs?

[974] Because nobody had laptops or nothing like that.

[975] Oh, wow.

[976] Yeah.

[977] A friend of mine called a crazy story.

[978] We're going to look back on this.

[979] This is like those people when the camera first got invented.

[980] Yeah.

[981] Well, yeah, we stood around for four hours and he painted us.

[982] And be like, what?

[983] I mean, this is literally what that's like.

[984] This is what happens, man. And I think two, I think a year or two earlier, I was in the crack game a little bit.

[985] You were in the crack game?

[986] A little bit.

[987] Like six months.

[988] That should be a meme.

[989] I was in the crack game a little bit.

[990] But this thing was new.

[991] This thing was a new hustle.

[992] Because more people love music.

[993] Yeah, when did the crack game open up?

[994] That was 80.

[995] The 80s.

[996] Something.

[997] That was when everything became, they blamed everything on crack.

[998] Yeah, it was.

[999] They literally blamed everything on crack.

[1000] The epidemic.

[1001] Like, all white people were terrified of crack.

[1002] They thought that for sure.

[1003] For sure.

[1004] You want some of those?

[1005] What's that?

[1006] I know you're looking at it.

[1007] Oh, wow.

[1008] So, bite the top off of it and pour in your drink.

[1009] You'll get smarter.

[1010] It affected me in the 90s, mid -90s.

[1011] How so?

[1012] With my father and my aunt.

[1013] The sea of deterioration of people and families, like full on.

[1014] Somebody you look up to just, you know.

[1015] It was a way for people to get Coke way easier, right?

[1016] Yeah.

[1017] That's basically what it is.

[1018] Get the same high for a short amount of, for cheaper, you know what I mean?

[1019] Five, ten dollars.

[1020] But it has a different effect.

[1021] It must have some sort of a different effect because people say that the crack thing, like after you do it, it's like really good in the beginning and then it's not so good after a while.

[1022] But that same with Coke?

[1023] I think you're still chasing that.

[1024] I haven't did Coke yet.

[1025] Ever?

[1026] No. You say yet, though.

[1027] You're leaving the possibility open.

[1028] Bauer is ready to party.

[1029] You know, everything I've done, I do it for experiment with it.

[1030] Right.

[1031] And I, to understand addiction and learn, like, comedy.

[1032] It makes me so happy that I don't have to lean on anything for any emotional thing.

[1033] Right.

[1034] So when I do it, it's just to see what it's like, right?

[1035] So, like, when I did shrooms, you know, that was, I was there documenting the experience.

[1036] And then I would go back into it and I can go out.

[1037] Being self -aware mentally.

[1038] Almost like from an engineering perspective, you're trying to, like, back -engineer what's going on when you're doing these drugs.

[1039] Try to figure it out.

[1040] Let me write this stuff down.

[1041] Then I'll go back and look at it.

[1042] I didn't try to figure out how I got there.

[1043] Well, even when I got in the crack business, it was like, let's see what makes you so powerful.

[1044] I remember having it in my hand, like, let's see what makes you so powerful.

[1045] You were saying that to the crack itself?

[1046] What did it say?

[1047] I'll show you.

[1048] Basically, because when it ended, it was a loaf of me. When I stopped selling, it was a loaf of you?

[1049] It was a load for me. Because I didn't know that the person who sells it is addicted just as much as the user.

[1050] Because you're addicted to selling it The power, the money When you walk in the building People know who you are And people, the control you have over people I'm like, this is what white power feels like That's it It was a guy who ran into a store Got some clothes And brought it back Because he didn't have any money That's a powerful thing You know Right Yeah People are sucking your dick, you know and stuff like that.

[1051] Wait a minute, how is it equate to a guy getting some clothes and bringing them back?

[1052] What, how what?

[1053] The power?

[1054] Yeah.

[1055] Because they don't, there's nothing they would normally do.

[1056] You can make somebody do that, you know what mean?

[1057] So I look at it like if I was and I could think like a one percent because I got a business, I was educated in business, so they give you a Republican mindset.

[1058] So if I was in control of a society, right?

[1059] And I had a group of poor people and I controlled a resources.

[1060] And this happened on the street with drugs, too.

[1061] That's why a drug deal to get robbed.

[1062] If I control the resources, I can allow it to go out or I can not allow it to go out.

[1063] I can control the price point.

[1064] And if you can't afford it, you know what I mean?

[1065] Then it's like, okay, let's see what else you could do to get this thing that you want.

[1066] So you were getting addicted to the power of like controlling these people, of having these people dependent upon you, you would show up, you would be important, you'd be making money doing something that's kind of dangerous.

[1067] There's like a bunch of different things going on.

[1068] Well, I think I did it enough to see it, but I didn't do it long enough to get full out.

[1069] I think probably like six months or like a semester or two.

[1070] How'd you get out of it?

[1071] I had, it was at one point I had, I got proposition to take control over this town.

[1072] And it was at a point consciously where I was at a private college.

[1073] I lived a triple life.

[1074] I had basketball scholarship.

[1075] I had classes that I was feeling.

[1076] It was a religious college.

[1077] I had white friends, and then I would go to the black community and hustle at night.

[1078] There's a lot of stuff to do, you know what I mean?

[1079] And, like, at one point, I was shot at, I was hanging with my white friends, and they didn't know what the fuck was going on.

[1080] You got shot at with your white friends?

[1081] Yeah, because they wanted to buy weed, but guess where they had to go to get weed in this other place, you know what I mean?

[1082] Yeah, so, and that person, allegedly his uncle worked for me. This is the first allegedly of the night ladies and gentlemen.

[1083] Yeah, all this is alleged.

[1084] You know what I mean?

[1085] So I remember it was a pharmaceutical company in that town that made a lot of money and I remember standing outside face to face with it and I was like, this is a setup, we'll never win.

[1086] This is where all the money is right here and it's pharmaceutical company.

[1087] It's legal, you know?

[1088] And I met a guy who was addicted to crack and he owned a pharmaceutical company.

[1089] and CVS bought them out for like $1 .5, $1 .8 million.

[1090] And you know where all that money went, you know.

[1091] And these things made me be like, and then the fact I was getting angry because I'm realizing how unfair life is.

[1092] Because now I mean black people who grandparents were in the college.

[1093] You know what I mean?

[1094] And during that time, they would do like brown paper bag tests to see if he was allowed to go to school within the black community.

[1095] They would put a brown paper bag up to you, and if you was lighter than that, you know, you could go to school and stuff.

[1096] What?

[1097] Yeah.

[1098] Who did this?

[1099] This was like certain HBSUs, you know, black universities and stuff like that.

[1100] I know they would do that just to get in a fraternity, you know?

[1101] Really?

[1102] Yeah, you can research this stuff.

[1103] A brown paper bag is so white.

[1104] I know, man. You telling me, look at me. You know what I mean?

[1105] So the anger started to come, and then you're in the streets hustling, and I don't think I had the mentality.

[1106] It got to one point I knew that if I crossed the line, like if I would harm somebody in a very bad way, there's no coming back from that.

[1107] And I don't think I was ready to make that decision.

[1108] But I do know the guy when I left, he went on to build that part of town and finished.

[1109] It was just two of us at the time, but it became a crew of six, and each made 13 -5 a week take home.

[1110] Wow.

[1111] By the time they hit five, six.

[1112] and seven years.

[1113] But by the time I link back up with him, he was the only one left.

[1114] Alive.

[1115] Alive or not in jail.

[1116] And, you know, religion saved him.

[1117] Really?

[1118] So he pulled out because religion, the rest from were gone?

[1119] Yeah.

[1120] But I just saw, the way my mind worked, I just saw stuff early.

[1121] You know, I just put the pieces together early.

[1122] Right.

[1123] Well, that's a skill.

[1124] That's a skill that a lot of people have to learn.

[1125] And you learn it by watching, either you do your own fuck -ups or you watch a lot of people fuck up around you.

[1126] Like if you talk to the children of alcoholics, they rarely drink.

[1127] I shouldn't say rarely.

[1128] What I should say is I run into a lot of people who were the children of alcoholics who realized like fuck that noise.

[1129] And they realize growing up with unreliable parents.

[1130] Yeah.

[1131] And fucked up and those people, you know, there's like proof positive.

[1132] You don't have to actually go through the mistake to learn yourself.

[1133] But once I learned, hate drug dealers no more, but until then I did, because one knocked my dad eye out, and I heard he climbed the flagpole for fun, because he didn't have no money.

[1134] But before then, this was a guy that raised me who managed to we live in a small bedroom apartment, two bedroom apartment to him amassing a five bedroom house and cars and boats, because he was just that smart and good, and I've seen it all disappeared, you know what I mean?

[1135] what I call like king a king falling or something like that right right so I just wanted to see like the other part of that and I would be in the crack like how I was asking people's parents about how do their kids feel about this and they you know no no no you know I want to talk about that right now like I'm like so even during that time I'm still like gathering information and just you know well what's most insidious about crack is that it affects poor neighborhoods in general in black neighborhoods in particular.

[1136] Like that's a one of the weirder drugs because there was crack in poor white neighborhoods.

[1137] Like there was an area called Lowell in Massachusetts that had a big problem.

[1138] I think it was crack or was it heroin?

[1139] But there's a lot of, there was crack neighborhoods for sure.

[1140] I know, I know poor white people that smoked crack, but it seems way more prevalent in black communities.

[1141] And I always wonder, like, what is, um, what's the need that's being met when, when a, when a drug provides a certain type of sensation, like what is the need that's being met that is uniquely, uh, attracts it to certain neighborhoods?

[1142] I don't know that.

[1143] I really don't know.

[1144] I know it was cheap for certain, it wasn't cheap where we was doing it at.

[1145] That's what made it so profitable.

[1146] But do you think that it's because of all these pressures that you were talking about?

[1147] Like you're, you're talking about this despair.

[1148] You're talking about how it just feels like you can't get.

[1149] out you're stuck in this this bad place with all this danger and violence and just a constant fucking pressure of that i think so i think i look at what my aunt and dad the type of people they are personality wise very friendly and them being in a bible belt where you're taught you got to behave a certain way but they are real like horny people and they like the fuck it's true you know what mean they do you know so um just being confined you know growing up with you two parents I hear my friend be like they have to they had pressure that I didn't have like I didn't have a curfew or nothing you know but I was just a good kid I was still they would call me a square when I was younger I didn't partake anything but I would be out I'd be like it'll be like right there and I see it but just instinctively I knew better but I see people who came up a certain way with certain values even my friends they had to live with that for a while right well I had the freedom them to be like, no, I'm going to do this.

[1150] So you had the forethought or the foresight to see where this could all be a problem, and then you got proven correct.

[1151] So you got to see all these other people fuck up doing all these things.

[1152] Yeah, well, I noticed like, oh, my grandmother and granite are snuff cigarette people.

[1153] Snuff?

[1154] That stuff's so weird.

[1155] Yeah, my grandmothers.

[1156] Explain that shit for people who don't even know what snuff is.

[1157] Snuff is like a powder form of tobacco.

[1158] almost like chewing tobacco is what the dudes did and snuff is what the women did it's a powder for them they still put in their mouth and they got a spit cup and they'll always be like oh you know as a kid go grab my spit cup you watch a lady just spit and this beautiful ass spit cup they get a paper towel and put it at the bottom so they'll make a noise you remember that was like a big deal in the wild west they'd have spatoons yeah remember that i saw one at the movies at the The capital to the capital in Sacramento, and they got those spit things.

[1159] I used to work with this dude.

[1160] He was a stuntman on Fear Factor.

[1161] His name's Perry.

[1162] Perry's crazy.

[1163] He used to swallow his tobacco juice.

[1164] Oh, that's gangster.

[1165] Because he said he was working on movie sets so often that he couldn't spit.

[1166] He couldn't carry around his cup and spit, so he started just swallowing his tobacco juice, and then got used to it.

[1167] The most I've drank, the most I've drank, the most I've drank and did tobacco.

[1168] I did tobacco before.

[1169] You drank tobacco?

[1170] No, I drank alcohol and did tobacco because I used to do focus groups.

[1171] My Nigerian friends, they put me on.

[1172] So they'll give you $50, $75, $200 to drink and taste it and give your opinion on it, right?

[1173] Right.

[1174] But if you, because my name is Byron Bowers, which can be Byron Powers, which could be Brian Bowers, I could do focus groups in one day.

[1175] So you just change your name a little bit?

[1176] Change name, put on a different shirt.

[1177] This is this income for, like this is the hustles that we had to, like in college to me, college is where poor people learn white -collar crimes and stuff, right?

[1178] So I had to do tobacco and they never would do it.

[1179] Some people and I would do it.

[1180] And then they would be in the tobacco meeting, like, it would be like me and the redneck white guys.

[1181] They all like, yeah, man, this one tastes a little more like, look at the citrus flavor pops more in there.

[1182] You know, and I'm in there just lit, eyes red.

[1183] Like, I'm in there, just chewing my, hanging out of my mouth.

[1184] I can't even spit right.

[1185] What is the feeling of doing chewing tobacco when you don't do it?

[1186] What's it do to you?

[1187] In that group, I think it's like, the equivalent to, like, you just get, like, a weird buzz feeling.

[1188] Like, you're just real, like, your eyes are red.

[1189] They say it's really good to write on.

[1190] They say, like, nicotine is one of the best things to write on.

[1191] It's like a more, it's like an alertness.

[1192] Alert.

[1193] Like if I eat chocolate or drink coffee Like my heart explode I just started doing this You know what I mean So it's like an alert version of that But you still like happy And stuff at the same time Like as if you want alcohol It's like you buzzed in a way So it's better Better than coffee It's more of a drunk Feeling in coffee Huh To me From chewing tobacco Yeah This is like the loose leaf stuff Or is it like That skulls stuff that you would have to, when you're watching people do it, and then you're like doing this, and you don't even know how to spit, so they don't know, like, pu, and you like, it looks so nasty.

[1194] Yeah.

[1195] And I saw this one fucking dude who was doing public service announcements, he was going to colleges and high schools, rather, and grammar schools, and he was missing most of his lower jaw.

[1196] He got jaw cancer from doing chewing tobacco.

[1197] Yeah.

[1198] I think he was a baseball player.

[1199] He used to be this, like, strapping, handsome jazz.

[1200] gentlemen.

[1201] And then as time went on, the cancer ate his jaw away.

[1202] It stings to me. It stings to me. It's like a stronger experiment feeling.

[1203] And if you don't know how to do it right, it gets all in yours.

[1204] Well, how many people actually get cancer from that stuff?

[1205] I don't know, man. It seems like there's a lot of people that do that stuff, right?

[1206] They don't got no electronic version now?

[1207] Like they got any cigarettes?

[1208] No, no, no, no, no. Well, I mean, I apparently, according to people that smoke cigarettes, e -cigarettes just don't give you the same rush.

[1209] I'm going to believe that.

[1210] They don't give you that kick.

[1211] At the end of the day to me, but it's still smoke going inside your lungs?

[1212] Yes, it's still smoke going inside your lungs, but it's not.

[1213] Those e -cigarettes are vapor.

[1214] It's actually a liquid tobacco.

[1215] Okay.

[1216] And then it vaporizes the liquid tobacco, and some sort of particles have to be in the air.

[1217] but it's attached to vapor.

[1218] It's a different experience than the cold, I mean, the hot, you know, smoke from fire.

[1219] It's like those cars that burn with hydrogen or something that evaporates in the air.

[1220] Hydrogen turns into air, yeah, when you burn it, you know.

[1221] Okay.

[1222] Or is it turned to water?

[1223] Some water.

[1224] Is it oxygen or water?

[1225] Some hydrogen burning hydrogen turn into oxygen or is it turning to water?

[1226] Why don't know water comes out?

[1227] I'm asking Jamie to Google five things at the time.

[1228] need a goddamn assistant um but yeah yeah but cigarettes man they do give you a weird rush i don't smoke cigarettes but i've had hits of people's cigarettes before just to see what it feels like like tony hitchcliff gave me a pull off a cigarette the other night right before i went on stage it gives you like a rush it gives you like uh yeah your your mind fires up and he's like dude be careful you can get addicted to these things i'm like i am not getting addicted to your fucking cigarette just relax i'm just going to take one puff of a cigarette that's a feel about stuff like um certain things like when i told my mom i did acid and i told people in the self i do acid they think don't you know what happened to your father why would you go down the same path oh god they think it's the same path i'm trying to live you know what i mean trying to see things different i understand what he went through but and also i came back as moses also so that didn't help excuse me what i came back like what you mean you came back i met god Oh, after you did ask.

[1229] These are the instructions.

[1230] Everything's going to be okay.

[1231] I've seen life, I've seen death, I time traveled.

[1232] Yeah, that sounds pretty trippy.

[1233] They're like, God damn it, Byron.

[1234] You went nutty.

[1235] Not around with those white people.

[1236] But that adds on to the fact they already think I went nutty for graduating saying, I'm going to do stand -up.

[1237] So they were right.

[1238] Then it's like it's confirming.

[1239] What?

[1240] They're confirming that they were right.

[1241] Oh, well, yeah.

[1242] in a sense.

[1243] They already think, you're nuts.

[1244] This guy's already he's out there.

[1245] I don't know what he's doing.

[1246] Doing acid.

[1247] It's getting crazy.

[1248] He's telling jokes.

[1249] He's telling jokes.

[1250] I got introduced like, yeah, this is my nephew who graduated from college, the one who said he's going to go tell jokes.

[1251] Like it's a joke?

[1252] Yeah, I got introduced his dad.

[1253] Tell him how much Kevin Hart makes.

[1254] Hmm?

[1255] I said, tell those people how much Kevin Hart makes.

[1256] Oh, yeah, this was before Kevin.

[1257] It was before Kevin.

[1258] Tell them how much Jamie Fox made.

[1259] Tell him how much, I mean, fill in the blank.

[1260] Go to, Martin Lawrence, working way up.

[1261] A million different fucking comedians.

[1262] Graduated from college is a less likely scenario than if you're actually funny, making a lot of money doing standard.

[1263] Yeah.

[1264] You know?

[1265] Like, now you're at the point.

[1266] People be like, this is all you do?

[1267] And I'm like, yeah.

[1268] And they're like, oh, snap.

[1269] They realize now that you're doing well.

[1270] I was in Dominican Republic.

[1271] And they was like, what you do?

[1272] I was like, I talk to people for a living.

[1273] And they were like, that's all?

[1274] I was like, yeah.

[1275] They're like, man. Well, sort it.

[1276] You got to write some shit down.

[1277] You got to figure out what's funny about what you're about to say.

[1278] It's a little more complicated than that.

[1279] But, yeah, at the end of the day, that's all it is.

[1280] I call it communication.

[1281] That's all.

[1282] Yeah.

[1283] You know, at this level, the level I'm at.

[1284] It's interesting now because I'm in a weird space as far as stand -up.

[1285] Weird space?

[1286] To me?

[1287] How so?

[1288] Not as far as the show business, should I say?

[1289] Show business.

[1290] How so?

[1291] Because it's a place in show business where art meets the business part you know what I mean and that's when it gets interesting that's when the fight begins of like you know do what platforms can this be allowed on or okay you're going to put me on a show with five people I want to do a show with just myself you know and those things or you got agents now and you asked them to book you and then you don't hear from them for five months you know so that was that weird part of just learning that part of the show business navigating the waters of sharks yeah it's funny daniel tosh and i were at the improv name drop watch me uh we're at the improv the other night and uh there was this one dude was a manager it's kind of a shifty character and uh daniel came over and he was like that guy gets me the creeps and i tell him i go you know that guy said to me once he said to me you're the one that got away and he said dude he said the same fucking thing to me and then Tosh even tweeted it to me with a bunch of S's at the end of it like yeah it's there's gonna be those guys but if you find someone that's good you know you develop a good relationship with a good agent and a good manager it's like everything else man you can come to Hollywood and meet a bunch of crazy actors or you can meet a bunch of artists you know you can meet a bunch of people that are completely out of their fucking mind, full of shit, doing meth, doing Adderall all day, promising you the world, never delivering shit.

[1292] Or you can meet some of the people that you and I know from the comedy store.

[1293] Yeah.

[1294] Like, you're in a family.

[1295] Like, you're part of the comedy store, family, right?

[1296] Yeah, that's true.

[1297] You go down there, and there's so many of us.

[1298] I mean, I hate to keep bringing it up, but that's, it's a goddamn love fest at that place, you know?

[1299] It's very interesting.

[1300] It's beautiful, right?

[1301] People are like, oh, that's a weird, the energy is bad.

[1302] Not anymore.

[1303] I'm like, it's a frat.

[1304] away, you know, and this is a thing.

[1305] It's a different place for sure than it's ever been before, but there's no bad energy at the comedy store.

[1306] That's a goddamn hug fest.

[1307] Well, I felt a little something when I first went there.

[1308] That's probably uncomfortable.

[1309] You know what brought me to the store, honestly?

[1310] Because I started in the urban rooms, and they didn't want to book me because it was too far.

[1311] It was too experimental, my style.

[1312] So, I was like, I'm going to try to get in the comedy store.

[1313] And I was like, I broke in the clubs before I know how tough it is or whatever and they're like they can't go there they don't let black comics in they're racist and I was like they racist I was like man I've been dealing with racism my whole life that's easy that's a mental thing and that's what I did but do you think the comedy store was racist that's what I heard who said that like a lot of black comics were saying that when I got here I bet they weren't that funny well it's a different you know it's a different style first off and racism is mental like You know, to me, Hollywood is racist.

[1314] You go in a room to be like too light, too dark, too tall, too short, too fat.

[1315] But then it's sexist, then it's, uh, ageist, then it's, it's, uh, sizesist.

[1316] Like, if they, they don't like fat people.

[1317] There's a lot of things that Hollywood is, but it's because they're trying to fill apart.

[1318] Yeah.

[1319] They have an idea in their head of what it's going to be.

[1320] And I'm like, if you let that get to you, I had went through so much mentally, I was like, that ain't going to stop.

[1321] That's nothing.

[1322] But, yeah, but still, if they were racist, they were still, hire you like it's not but the comedy store is is they get a lot of pressure to be more you know this more diverse more i i know i've seen it i've talked to them about it yeah but what they try to do is just book the funniest people that's what they always try to do just before the guy was booking it was fucking crazy but in his idea he's probably thought he was doing the right thing he did well that's how i made it through that you know so everything else yeah yeah you know so everything else was I sat there and listened to the talks and you let it you could let it affect you or you can or you could be like fuck it well people don't know that that stopped like well like two years ago that guy stopped working there yeah and from then on it's become a completely different environment it's insane now it's so much better and I'm glad I'm a part of it uh like as far as making the cut because the talent as far what people got going on I still feel like a regular comic compared to what the people that I'm on stage with now.

[1323] And that says something about me, how I feel confident -wise, but it also let me know, like, you know, I got to get, you know, whatever else I need to get done, done.

[1324] You know what I mean?

[1325] Like, I should be, like, a monster big boy.

[1326] I feel like I should be a monster big boy.

[1327] A monster big boy?

[1328] Amongst the big boys, you know what I mean?

[1329] I get it.

[1330] Amongst the big boys.

[1331] Because after a while, you do rooms and you're the funniest person in the room, and that can make you cocky but then one night somebody don't show up or somebody don't want to follow Joe Rogan and you have to follow Joe Rogan and then you learn what season is on a different level and you can't cheat your way of being seasoned in anything you know you gotta put your time in you gotta put your time in yeah yeah and that's one of the things the comedy store has always been very good at yeah giving guys opportunities because of the fact that also there's a bunch of people on it at night there might be, you know, how many people on an average lineup is like 13 or 14 12?

[1332] 12?

[1333] 12?

[1334] So 12 people doing 15 minute sets and the show goes on all night.

[1335] So you're going to get some opportunities if you're a young guy or a young girl to go on like right after Chris Delia or right after a Joey Diaz or Ron White.

[1336] You get a chance to see these people take these tough spots after they just watched you go on after Ron White, you're going on after someone these people love they love that guy they come to see him they're excited when he's there they're all googly -eyed that was their time there's a bunch if Ron White's at the comedy store there's a good chance that a bunch of people in the audience came there specifically to see him so if you go on right after him yeah you have to introduce them to the world of Byron Bowers you know it takes a little time you got to like ease them in you got to relax them and now you know Ron's gone I know he's only here for 15 minutes but he's gone and now i'm going to come up and it's it's a very very unique environment in that sense because it gives us a chance to also see how other people do that and also see i mean you're going to get a chance to see 12 different people's styles if you sit there the whole night yeah that's true it's so much difference in their style and so funny so much i mean big difference in you who's really funny and a guy like michael costa who's already really funny or uh as well all really funny But when you look at the two of you guys together, what you both have in common is that you both have like, like, oh, this really cool potential.

[1337] And you might see that 10 times that night.

[1338] So, you know.

[1339] And it's weird because Tommy told me this.

[1340] He was like, look, we started you in the belly.

[1341] We're going to put you in a late.

[1342] Now, he broke the whole thing down for me. He's like, your stuff is regional, right?

[1343] He's like, well, I'm going to put you up in front of these international people at 2 o 'clock in the morning.

[1344] And I was like, what?

[1345] And what happened was I started learning how to communicate.

[1346] what I thought was funny versus tell jokes.

[1347] Right.

[1348] And then he said by the time we put you in the main room with these guys to do theaters, you will learn how to perform in front of a group of people between $220 ,000.

[1349] Yeah.

[1350] By the time you master these rooms.

[1351] So he, and to me, like, regardless of, I listen to what people say he told to them, but he didn't have those conversations with me. He just made it, it just prolonged what I thought I was ready for.

[1352] But by the time I got to the main room and I'm used to doing these intimate or altie rooms and I'm performing behind like you or Louis and I'm seeing like oh this is a broader audience and I got to perform I got to walk the stage I got to I can't do it like I've been doing it in the OR.

[1353] Right.

[1354] I got to up the ante and it made me grow as a comic and I tell people now like yeah you perform in the main room at midnight you're going to be just as strong as somebody who does it at 8 o 'clock by the time it's all over and when you go to another club and you get an 8 o 'clock spot, boom, you're going to kill it.

[1355] Yeah.

[1356] It's like running with weights on.

[1357] Yeah.

[1358] For sure.

[1359] I just tape C -So for this HBO.

[1360] I was at Just for Lab and I did that gala show they have there.

[1361] And we had to do a warm -up show.

[1362] And my warm up was so strong, I had to close the taping.

[1363] You know?

[1364] I had to close the taping.

[1365] What do you mean?

[1366] Because they had me like up at a certain time.

[1367] Oh, you had to close the show.

[1368] Yeah, I had to close the taping.

[1369] And I didn't want to close the taping.

[1370] But in their mind, they was like, no, you're strong enough to do this.

[1371] You know what I mean?

[1372] And my first time with the Montreal, I went up first doing my audition.

[1373] Montreal Comedy Festival.

[1374] Yeah, the first time I did the callback that got me to Montreal, I went up first and I didn't want to go up first.

[1375] But the set was so strong, it affected the next three comedians after me. Because people were just staring at them.

[1376] And when you do content, like you guys.

[1377] But did it affect them?

[1378] them or did they just not be that good?

[1379] Well, that's a lot of what it is, right?

[1380] It's like when someone sees you kill, one of the big things that happens, and one of the beautiful things about the comedy store, about what you're talking about going on after all these different people that are killing, is you learn how to relax.

[1381] There's a lot of it, what happens is when a guy has to go on after someone that's really strong, is that they panic.

[1382] And when they panic, they can't even be themselves, which is not as funny as that guy.

[1383] Yeah, that's true.

[1384] I used to feel, that was a big thing that happened to me. I would always go on after There's a ton of guys that are going after But one of the ones who I'd always bomb after It was Martin Lawrence He was just too good back then He was too good and too famous and too popular And he would do like 45 minutes And then I would do whatever Like 15 minutes after him Yeah And I always bombed But I always that was the spot that I got And I realized like a bunch of things I would hear my own jokes come out And knew they were not good Like I didn't think they were good Yeah So I realized like okay I've got to like change pretty much everything about my approach because what I'm doing is I got comfortable I found like a little area that I could sort of write and perform in these are these the jokes that I've sort of got and try to work with and I didn't try to expand enough and when you get stuck into a situation where you have to kind of duke it out for survival it makes you reassess like why is all this bad like what's going wrong like what am I people don't like doing that because if you do everybody wants to think they're a finished product right that's like that's the comfort zone Right?

[1385] Everybody wants to stay inside their comfort zone.

[1386] This is it.

[1387] I'm good.

[1388] I'm pretty happy with the way things are.

[1389] Like, okay.

[1390] But if you do that, like, it's going to take too long.

[1391] Like, if you really want to get, you want to be like a Martin Lawrence, like, you're not going to do it by being comfortable.

[1392] It's just not going to happen.

[1393] Yeah, that's true.

[1394] That's why I came up to you that night.

[1395] I had the following one was like, yo, there was some heavy weights right there.

[1396] You know what I mean?

[1397] Off alone, just content.

[1398] Like, yeah, just the content and life experiences and saying, I'm learning.

[1399] And like, okay, if I tell these stories about my dad's schizophrenia and stuff, they don't even have to be the funniest.

[1400] They're just so interesting.

[1401] They hold weight that if a funny guy come up and talk about relationships, people are still going to be like, man, that last shit was crazy.

[1402] But when I started doing that, people weren't just coming up to me saying, you're funny no more.

[1403] They were just like, man, I know what that's like because my aunt is paranoid schizophrenic.

[1404] and to me that's the universe saying aha now you on to something but that only comes through failure to me like you improve through failure like the light bulb was invented through failure you know what I mean not through getting it right the first time it took 10 ,000 times for that thing to get perfect you know so yeah I think also I think a big part of what you just said that's important is you were talking about the way it feels when you're listening to it that it's not like your standard relationship stuff that it's something that's in in some ways more more enticing right it's an interesting subject like oh schizophrenia hmm like there's something there's weight to it right yeah it's honest it's honest like my my black lives matter stuff is honest and it's not going to get me liked by people but it's how I feel you know I mean and it's and it's it's it's even to me it's a little messed up how I feel about the situation but it's honest at the moment how I feel about this How do you feel about it?

[1405] Can you talk about it?

[1406] Well I can but to me not The worst part of me about the video is that He got shot in front Of a Toyota Camry And I'm like that's how shallow I am If it was me I would have found A bends or something to crawl near Just because I know it's going to look good Because I'm about to go viral And I want to look good before I get turned into a hashtag Because that's what the police are doing Is turning niggas in the hashtags And I turned to somebody to look white.

[1407] I was like, you know the average lifespan for young black man, 25, but hashtags live forever.

[1408] So it's the thing about fear, death, and shallowness, and, like, that's the complexity of, like, my bits.

[1409] But I have to admit, and that's a true how I really felt, you know, and when he hit the car, and I was like, oh, that the car was bouncing.

[1410] I'm like, look at the suspension on that.

[1411] But that's what makes it funny the people.

[1412] You know what I mean?

[1413] That's what makes it fun of the people.

[1414] But I have to learn to, you know, as artists, really.

[1415] learn and you do this you learn to let go of those things but the more work i don't get the more honest i become because you don't you stop really trying to fit in and you don't care if they're trying to book a nice black guy no more you get pad you take another jacket off you take another shirt off you just up there with no shirt on like look i'm in my thirtes i got wrinkles right here now but i never got laid more in my life you know like it's just honest like uh and it's something relieving it's something whatever from a kid who was quiet growing up and held everything in it's such a release into being able to put this stuff out yeah that's probably something a lot of people don't understand right do you feel a lot of people don't understand that like that where you're coming from is not just where you are now but it's where you started out yeah and you you're taking particular joy in your freedom it's it's particularly unusual the way you're expressing yourself.

[1416] Yeah, and it's being it's that vulnerability that people talk about.

[1417] But as you grow, as I grow as a person, my comedy has grown.

[1418] Yeah, it's got to happen.

[1419] It doesn't happen.

[1420] I read something in the day on Jen Kirkman, and I was talking about, she was talking about comedy is one of those things that you actually do get better at when you get older, and it's one of those things, a rare thing for women, too, that they're still like a 40 -year -old woman, doesn't have a lot of opportunity as an actress you know i mean kind of play some mom roles and stuff like that as far as like to lead something but a 40 -year -old comic like a lot of them are just kind of getting started yeah that's true like look at sarah silverman she's better now than ever man and she's like what is she like 46 or something like that she's fine she like everything like attractive and sexing is with a woman like it just it's it just grows on it's not it's not it's not the way you look is what you carry yourself and the way you move when you talk so you're trying to say you're a fan sending out the bat signal no i mean i told her that before but i look at like i'm talking about like all women now you know what you told her that before yeah i told her this is attractive looking woman you know i mean like i've been in the green room with her respected the boundaries you know i mean not stared at her when she looked down in her notebook and working her bits but she's very nice person too yeah she's nice she's nice outside of it don't get all like yeah no for sure for sure she's real friendly too she's uh and by the way i'm talking about all women with that ladies you like if you have self -esteem problems like we all do and don't think oh because your hair doesn't look a certain way it's all there but it kind of comes when you stop giving the fuck you know you mean sexiness yeah in some ways yeah because people that are like super nervous about everything every aspect about them they get they're draining they're exhausting because you know that there's a lot going on there there's too much chaos doesn't allow you to be comfortable when someone's comfortable in their own skin and they don't give a fuck like it's like oh i kind of like being around you yeah you relax me you let me know that it's okay to not give a fuck that's what that's like the benefit of the true not give a fuck people true not give a fuck people make you appreciate things better women say i look sexy now and it's like who are they why they line you i don't know why they line there's something some energy they feel and i don't believe them because of me i'm still that kid look you're talented guy that's what it is My mom's still that kid with the scar on his face And the cricket teeth, you know Well, you're a handsome black gentleman And you're funny as shit Do I smell good, though, Joe?

[1421] You smell like roses?

[1422] That's what I hear But, you know, I mean, talent is a big thing too, right?

[1423] Yeah You see a lot of talented people And all sorts of different businesses Even like businessmen Like a businessman is a well She's just after him for his money Maybe, you know, maybe that guy has that Really beautiful wife because they're just after him for his money or maybe they're attracted to his talent for being successful like there's a little bit of that too it's not just the money yeah like i don't think women would be as attracted to a guy who just won the lottery and got 500 million dollars as they would to some guy who's some media mogul who started his own business built it up into an empire and now has 500 million dollars that's true those guys are different like they have that wizard air about them like this guy you know like a certain type of like Elon Musk do you know how much pussy Elon Musk must have to beat away from him yeah how many girls are just bombing on him just constantly because he's a super genius multi -billionaire with several successful businesses he invented fucking PayPal he's built his own cars that run on electricity he's making a fucking rocket ship to go to the moon he's making a hyperloop that's going to go to San Francisco in 30 seconds or whatever the fuck and I'm still questioning I looked at his stock today I still question I get well a part of me like this is going to be like the neck of general electric that's what I'm telling people in my mind the thing he's going to do with energy you know he's doing that with everything he's a super winner there's certain guys that are just super winners and he seems to come without any of the baggage that most super winners come with you know there's a lot of baggage that most of these like crazy entrepreneur type characters they're also geniuses come with he doesn't seem to he's like remarkably stable for someone who's that fucking smart and successful he's like a goddamn alien that guy it's weird because I hear chicks talk about the Silicon Valley guys who made money now and it's like it's like they said yeah they nerds but now they got money and power So they act like that When you see them out They're 10 women You know what I mean Kissing all on their neck And acting like The guys who used to beat them up The jocks You know I mean They get bullied But if you look at the Warren Buffett And the Bill Gates And the guys We were just like Yeah this is my lady right here Spend all my other time Working on algorithm But it's a new day now You know Warren Buffett still lives In the same fucking house In Omaha Yeah Me and Hannibal was In that neighborhood Did you see his house?

[1424] Nope Nope, but we Airbnb'd a property and they stared at us.

[1425] When you Airbnb be a property in that community and you have to have a cookout at 5 o 'clock in the morning, you're going to get some stairs the next day.

[1426] You had a cookout at 5 o 'clock in the morning?

[1427] Yeah, a show after party and then...

[1428] Was it like, were you making a lot of noise or something?

[1429] I don't think so.

[1430] Just the average noise that, you know, people make after they leave the club.

[1431] That's pretty loud.

[1432] You know, stumbling around.

[1433] Five o 'clock in the morning, that shit, would be annoying as far?

[1434] Have you lived next door to that house?

[1435] And, you know, you're trying to get some sleep?

[1436] I think so, probably.

[1437] I mean, the house across the street had three volvos in the driveway.

[1438] I was like, ooh, that's a lot of safety.

[1439] Yeah, it's a lot of white people.

[1440] That's too much safety.

[1441] They must be furious at you for waking them out.

[1442] I don't know if we woke them up, but the grill was outside.

[1443] So they could smell it.

[1444] Yeah.

[1445] They had Chile and bass, and we came with an appetite, you know.

[1446] But don't you think that that was probably pretty loud?

[1447] Like, how loud were you guys?

[1448] I don't think it was that loud, but I fell asleep.

[1449] Oh.

[1450] But it was, we did turn people away, though.

[1451] You know?

[1452] How many people were there?

[1453] I don't think it would probably be like five or seven, but more came, but.

[1454] That's chaos.

[1455] Five or seven people that are awake at five o 'clock in the morning.

[1456] Those people were probably lit up, loud as fuck, barbecuing, doesn't bother you?

[1457] I slept well.

[1458] I don't bother me, but at the same time, I don't, if I look at it from my neighborhood, in my Latin neighborhoods I live in, and they bring that.

[1459] bouncy castle over and they play the myriace at 5 o 'clock in the morning, which happens.

[1460] I'd be like, oh, okay, I get it.

[1461] I get it.

[1462] I get it.

[1463] I don't hate on them, though.

[1464] Right, but that's the neighborhood that you chose to live in.

[1465] Yeah.

[1466] Right?

[1467] That's what they do.

[1468] Like, you're saying you live in a Mexican neighborhood?

[1469] Yeah.

[1470] Mexican people have some fucking parties.

[1471] They got roosters in my neighborhood.

[1472] You just got a deal.

[1473] They go off at 5 a .m., 3 a .m. in the morning.

[1474] Dude, my gardener had the son of one of my dogs, my gardener's friend of mine.

[1475] Yeah.

[1476] and he's cool as fuck doesn't speak very much english but he's cool as fuck he's got like a hundred fucking roosters a hundred of them yeah in his yard his yard is like like a chicken fighting ring chicken fighting is different man it's funny like you tell people that you know somebody that fights dogs yeah and they look at you like what a monster yeah horrible person because dogs are really complex and they love you and they give you unconditional love and for you to violate that and making them fight each other is fucked up.

[1477] I get it.

[1478] I agree with it 100%.

[1479] I'm not saying that.

[1480] But you tell people that you know somebody fights chickens and they go, really?

[1481] Like, they don't even get grossed out.

[1482] I mean, there's some super vegans who probably get really pissed off or animal rights activists, but the average person doesn't give a fuck about a chicken.

[1483] And if those chickens are fucking each other up with spurs on, they put like razor blades on their back feet.

[1484] Yeah.

[1485] And they cut each other up.

[1486] I noticed that.

[1487] I saw a tape before Vic went down of a recruitment training tape and that was my first time seeing the animals electrocuted and how do you breed them and stuff like that.

[1488] This was a real tape that was going around the hood because people was fighting these animals and I know people that executed dogs that I'm closely friends with you know what I mean and it's very you know interesting situation but once again you talk about people who was like Oh, we was treated worse than that, you know.

[1489] Right.

[1490] It's still that innately that's in you, but it's shocking when people come out against dogs like that.

[1491] And that's why you have certain communities like, what?

[1492] We get shot by the cops or, you know, and all this other stuff.

[1493] Well, there's certain communities where dog fighting is super normal, too.

[1494] That's what I'm saying.

[1495] Like, it's normal.

[1496] It wasn't a...

[1497] But I don't mean normal in that.

[1498] It's, like, less offensive than how the adult human beings are treated in that neighborhood.

[1499] I mean, it's a part of the culture.

[1500] Yeah, that's what I mean.

[1501] Yeah.

[1502] In the South, right?

[1503] Yeah, yeah.

[1504] I know a dude who had like 30 dogs.

[1505] He used to keep 30 dogs in his yard.

[1506] He's a professional pool player.

[1507] He had a big -ass yard down in, I think he was in Kentucky.

[1508] And he, he, he was part of what he gambled on.

[1509] He had dogs that they would, they had trained and they would fight him.

[1510] You know, and the person that I am right now looks at that and goes, well that that's a fucking terrible thing to do like why would you do that like that that should be absolutely illegal but him whatever his life was like him growing up in wherever he grew up yeah that was a normal thing so I uh I absolutely judge him I absolutely judge anybody that does that but I understand yeah it's weird like and to me I think understanding comes from me personally like if we could really assess our sales and look at all our deigness and accept our deigness right for how bad like that we could possibly do some real fucked up things right then it will make us judge each other less and then a conversation could be had to try to understand but yeah it's certain things that you see that you accept depending on where you you are you know i mean yeah and well in a lot of ways then what you're saying is like those those principles of life and those things that you're talking about like these different patterns that you see in electronics or in the universe you kind of see that in life you see that in comedy too right like exactly what you were talking about in comedy like having go through things making mistakes making things like really obvious and then realizing whoa i got to look at this for what it really is versus people who look at things through a distorted perception like most of the people that you know that have distorted perceptions of their own abilities or distorted perceptions of their own life or where they fit in in the world, those are the people that don't progress because they're not looking at themselves.

[1511] They're not taking these assessments of themselves accurately, so they're not moving forward.

[1512] They stay where they're at because they think that where they're at with whatever they're trying to do is good enough or it's perfect or is better than it really is.

[1513] That's true.

[1514] But, yeah, and what I learned from my last, my asset trip, that the one you saw me the day after is that the in art and our genes because I saw an idea or I saw conception what I told you it moves everything forward like art moves everything forward and the gene like you have a child or you have an idea that moves the culture or the human species and everything continues to evolve and move forward.

[1515] And without those things, we would, we continue to make the same mistakes so we're stuck with certain things, you know?

[1516] Yeah, we're fueled by these things that we create, whether they're innovation or whether they're a piece of art, a movie, you know?

[1517] We were fueled by these things.

[1518] And sometimes in a negative way.

[1519] I mean, how many people have you met that act like a movie?

[1520] Like, they think, they say things like they're in a movie.

[1521] Oh, yeah, a bunch of people.

[1522] I know a dude who got into a fight.

[1523] another dude and as they were scrapping like as they're about to fight he goes tonight we dine in hell he yelled that out at him and the dude told me i'm like are you fucking serious he's like yeah he really he really said that to me oh that's hilarious and the guy was like what did you fucking say tonight we dine in hell and so they get in a fight and the guy who didn't say that turned out to be a really good wrestler so the whole thing was a disaster for the other guy well that guy did dine in hell the guy who said that dined in hell that night well not I mean, it's just, he thought he was in a fucking movie or something.

[1524] I mean, he was drunk, too.

[1525] There's a lot going on, right?

[1526] Oh, that's amazing.

[1527] But it's just that movies create these scenarios in people's minds that they almost want to reinvent in the real world if a similar situation presents itself, you know?

[1528] Yeah.

[1529] You really think you could say something that fucking stupid?

[1530] I mean, I would.

[1531] I've said some things before that sound poetic.

[1532] You know what I mean?

[1533] And, you know, especially the throes of passion, you know?

[1534] The throes of passion.

[1535] Passion by Byron.

[1536] Oh, that even sounds poetic, you know what I mean?

[1537] That should be the tile of your first Netflix special, The Throws of Passion by Byron Bowers.

[1538] And you're just sitting there with your legs crossed with, like, some nice slippers on in front of a fire.

[1539] That's what I call it now.

[1540] Reading a book.

[1541] That's what I call it now.

[1542] I don't even say fucking no more.

[1543] I call it, because I feel I do something a little more, you know, a little more different.

[1544] I don't call it creative.

[1545] There's a lot more involved.

[1546] Yeah, it's a little more, there's a little more passion involved.

[1547] So you're trying to separate yourself?

[1548] Like your branding, your style of fucking.

[1549] Well, I want to do that.

[1550] That'll be interesting.

[1551] That's a lot of fucking right there.

[1552] Well, you think about how many different kinds of music there is.

[1553] There's only one kind of fucking, you know?

[1554] Like, music is a style of expressing what's going on inside your mind, your imagination.

[1555] So is fucking in a lot of ways.

[1556] We should have, like, different classifications for fucking.

[1557] I mean, we kind of do.

[1558] We have basic bitch fucking.

[1559] We just like missionary little kisses.

[1560] Corrilla fucking.

[1561] guerrilla fucking yeah that's very important you need a couch you gotta stuff them in the corner of the couch that's what guerrilla fucking's about you got to grab a whole of things you gotta be able some traction you might want to keep your shoes on you got you need some traction i got this nike rope that's leather well and i and i pulled it out on this young lady and i jesus i put it around her neck like a like it would a puppy like a leash and she was like what are you doing And I was like...

[1562] That's the exact right thing to ask.

[1563] And I was like, I'll show you.

[1564] I was like, I'll show you.

[1565] Get up and try to move when she got to try to move.

[1566] Oh, Jesus.

[1567] Did she like that?

[1568] But yeah, she liked it.

[1569] And it turned her on.

[1570] And then to the fact where she wanted around her neck and I put it around her neck.

[1571] And the more I, you know, pulled...

[1572] It's a white girl, right?

[1573] I don't want to say.

[1574] Yeah, for sure.

[1575] Got to be.

[1576] You know what I mean?

[1577] Yeah, definitely.

[1578] Jewish probably.

[1579] You know what I mean?

[1580] So.

[1581] Super liberal.

[1582] Jews and blacks.

[1583] Now, so as I'm pulling it, she got more turned on.

[1584] Whoa.

[1585] And then she died.

[1586] So she started licking my thing.

[1587] And I got to the part.

[1588] Because I'm a skinny d - You started licking your arm?

[1589] I'm a skinny dude.

[1590] So my wrist was shaking like this.

[1591] And in my mind, I was like, this ain't me. You know, and then I just let the ropes go.

[1592] Hmm.

[1593] Followed your instincts.

[1594] Your instincts were to not kill her.

[1595] That's good.

[1596] Oh, she wasn't going to die.

[1597] I don't think I'm that strong.

[1598] I think you could definitely kill someone with a belt around their neck.

[1599] No, it was a leather rope.

[1600] Well, that's kind of like the same thing, isn't it?

[1601] Leather rope, a belt?

[1602] What kind of leather?

[1603] Very good, very good leather, you know what I mean?

[1604] Very good leather.

[1605] It seems like you could definitely kill somebody with a rope around the neck.

[1606] It would hurt if you hit them with the leather, you know.

[1607] Well, then you can kill them.

[1608] If you could, like, pull hard enough, you could kill somebody with any kind of, like, thin wire.

[1609] I think I could probably kill someone with a boot lace.

[1610] That's probably true.

[1611] I'm pretty sure I could.

[1612] That's probably a true.

[1613] Be careful out there, people.

[1614] If I got a good grip on it, yeah.

[1615] It's not hard.

[1616] The human neck is real vulnerable.

[1617] You know, the weird part about that is having a condomal, you know, and then doing it at the same time.

[1618] That's hilarious.

[1619] Like, what part of this is safe?

[1620] Like, that's hilarious.

[1621] She's got ligature marks on her neck.

[1622] But STD.

[1623] She didn't get AIDS, but she still died.

[1624] STD free.

[1625] Yeah, rough sex is fucking strange, man You gotta be real careful with that Because if you do weird shit And beat each other up And the girl goes to the cops, you're fucked Yeah, especially not the same race And that's when black people would be like I told you, I told you I was reading about this thing in Toronto There was this judge in Toronto That sentenced this man He was convicted of rape and he had consensual sex in his opinion with this woman and this woman had sent them these text messages saying, you know, come on over, let's have some savage sex and this and that.

[1626] And then afterwards, when he broke up with her, she decided, or after they had a bunch of these experiences, I forget how it works.

[1627] Yeah.

[1628] Either way, she lied to the judge and to the court about sending those texts because she had deleted them, but then they somehow, another, recovered them.

[1629] And they found out that she lied about that.

[1630] And she lied about a few other things, too.

[1631] But the judge started quoting all this feminist theory and quoting different feminist writers and wound up getting this guy convicted, which is beyond a reasonable doubt.

[1632] Like, as soon as someone says, I did not send him a text asking him for sex.

[1633] And then you find out they did, in fact, send that text asking them for sex and it deleted.

[1634] Well, then you've got reasonable doubt.

[1635] Like, instantaneously, you have doubt because you have to go, okay.

[1636] What about the rest of this stuff you're telling me isn't true.

[1637] And I'm not saying that he didn't force her to give him a blowjob or that he did.

[1638] I don't know.

[1639] I wasn't there.

[1640] He doesn't, the judge doesn't know either.

[1641] Yeah.

[1642] But in my opinion, you instantaneously have to have reasonable doubt when you find out that someone's willing to lie about certain aspects of what happened.

[1643] Yeah.

[1644] So I was watching this and I was listening to this, this woman from, what is that, was that conservative website?

[1645] the blaze or something like that is that Glenn Beck thing is that it is that the blaze she did this breakdown of it and I was like God it's so it's so dangerous when you get involved with crazy people you're sticking your dick and crazy people like you don't you don't really know what's going to happen like you're you there choking that girl with a rope and she's licking your arm like where's this going to escalate to you know you can oh easy a Volvo and a house of kids you know The only place to go Or She doesn't know that you've been snipped And you don't tell her That you can't get her pregnant So you keep pumping loads into her And you got to keep ramping up the sex And so now she's wearing a helmet You're fucking driving her through a wall Oh, that'll be interesting right there But you're doing that to make her happy But you really don't like it at all?

[1646] Yeah, both of you are confused She thinks it makes you happy but you think it makes her happy and you're just giving her CTE and throwing her head through wallboard I mean someone has for sure putting a helmet on and someone fucked them from behind and slammed their head through a wall that's 100 % right that's definitely happened I think so what are you looking up Jamie?

[1647] I was looking up this case but I stumbled across something I haven't seen before did you know Canadian lawyers have to wear an outfit like this thank God so you know they're ridiculous I looked up Canadian lawyers and they're all wearing it all the lawyers have to dress like that that's hilarious oh my goodness look at this fucking outfit they have on they might as well be working at like one of those reenactment restaurants like medieval times that's a that's hilarious that's why none of them was smart they got wigs too they'll they are barristers wow male barristers make more than double they're female um what does it say there it's dot dot dot what does it say do the female have to wear wigs too Not, that's just wrong.

[1648] That's a very good question.

[1649] That would be bullshit.

[1650] Oh, their female colleagues.

[1651] Male barristers with their ridiculous wigs.

[1652] That is goddamn hilarious.

[1653] Wow.

[1654] That's in Australia, though.

[1655] That you just pulled up?

[1656] Still, there's parts of the world.

[1657] It makes you wonder, like, what would happen if the United States had been formed?

[1658] There's parts of the world that are still wearing wigs.

[1659] When they're doing their law stuff.

[1660] Ooh, she's hot as fuck.

[1661] Well, the outfits just changed.

[1662] Classic portrait of a woman in Canadian law.

[1663] She don't have to wear a wig, but the outfit looks better on her.

[1664] You want her to visit you in jail?

[1665] No. She tells you, I'm sorry.

[1666] I didn't mean to convict you, and I'm going to work to get you out.

[1667] She don't have no oatmeal.

[1668] She better not, she better come in a different outfit.

[1669] In jail, you have to bring in oatmeal?

[1670] Yes, I mean, she looked like she would carry some Quaker State.

[1671] What's it called?

[1672] Wait, Quaker State is old.

[1673] Quaker State.

[1674] Quaker oats Yeah Yeah There's like some That's a funny one right Like what the fuck does pilgrims have to do with oats Did they grow the oats Is that what the deal is?

[1675] He's a Quaker It's not a pilgrim right Propaganda Quaker Oats That's like That's like saying I'm gonna buy Mormon Granola Right You imagine how many people Would buy Scientology flakes Oh that'll be dope Right I mean that's exactly what it is They're clear How about Catholic Chris That's my morning cereal.

[1676] I enjoy Catholic crisp.

[1677] Everybody eat out the same bowl.

[1678] Yeah, how can, what is Quaker Oats?

[1679] It's religious cereal?

[1680] What?

[1681] What the fuck does the Quaker have to do anything?

[1682] They didn't give a fuck about Quakers.

[1683] Quakers were so innocuous that they were willing to use them as props.

[1684] It's like the way they sell Klondike bars with polar bears.

[1685] They used a Quaker.

[1686] It just says a prop.

[1687] That was the first.

[1688] That was the first.

[1689] Right?

[1690] That's hilarious.

[1691] Don't you think that's what they did?

[1692] That do makes sense.

[1693] Totally.

[1694] I bet Quakers have fucking zero interest in Quaker Oats.

[1695] I bet they don't get paid.

[1696] I bet they get fucked over on the commissions.

[1697] I bet the Quaker Oats Company keeps all the money.

[1698] Pepsi owns it now.

[1699] There you go.

[1700] Wow.

[1701] Those Quakers are out there going, what the fuck?

[1702] This is ours.

[1703] This is our shit.

[1704] This is our outfit.

[1705] But you look at that outfit and you go, that's some wholesome oats.

[1706] I bet that oats doesn't even swear.

[1707] That oats doesn't drink.

[1708] That oats makes its own butter.

[1709] That oats lives in a nice.

[1710] nostalgic way in a field and they plow with a fucking like a regular mechanical plow and they do everything old school wow right my grandmother was telling about the cotton gin last time i uh went to see she like 90s on the way out you tell me about this we were in the back of the comedy store yeah it was interesting so she wasn't alive when the cotton gym was created her mother these are the stories she heard my grandmother was alive i was like what drugs did y 'all do when you were young and she said aspirin just came out.

[1711] So that's what that was the thing, you know what I mean?

[1712] You mean people took Aspen for recreation?

[1713] No, she was just like, that was just the thing outside of like, you know, homegrown, because they was formers.

[1714] My grandmother was like the, remind me of the help, the movie The Hill, you know.

[1715] The Hills?

[1716] The Help.

[1717] The Help?

[1718] Yeah.

[1719] I don't know that movie.

[1720] It's like, it's about the, uh, that black lady who raised the white family type thing.

[1721] What movie's that?

[1722] The Help.

[1723] Is that a recent movie?

[1724] Yeah.

[1725] Yeah.

[1726] Really?

[1727] um who was in it who was in it who's whoopi goldberg white family raised where weppy goldberg hilarity ensues emma stone was in it uh here's a picture what fucking movie is this the hell I have no idea what this movie is so my grandmother so those two black women raised those two white women well in a sense in like the relationship that happened like I went to one of my grandmother's birthday part I think when she was like 80 and there was a white family there And I was like, who are these people?

[1728] And my family's like, that's the family.

[1729] There's your grandmother help you the nanny for.

[1730] And they remain close because of, you know, she helped raise these young ladies.

[1731] You know what I mean?

[1732] Man, they fly my mom, my grandmother out to Philly to spend time with them and stuff like that.

[1733] Oh.

[1734] And it's an interesting, you know, situation.

[1735] So just to hear these stories and, you know, my grandmother telling me about, when the cotton gin and she broke it down like yeah we'll take the cotton and take the seeds out and let it go and people were amazed by this they're just watching it like oh like that was the thing that people looked at like how people look at computers like oh man what we're going to do now like the napster revelation yeah like what are we going to do for work like this thing is here to put us out of work and yeah how people do a day is working got like she said once slavery in it and people had to get paid how somebody I don't know if it was her father somebody did a job and they gave him a dime you know wow so now you're not getting lodging or food or nothing like that you got to earn a wage and you get like a dime like for doing like some heavy you know things and this is blowing my mind amongst everything else that's going on you know in the world you know what's crazy That person living that life and making a dime and living in a modern, a semi -modern to us, you know, modern in its context, society, is doing so much better than someone who was born 200 years before that.

[1736] Yeah.

[1737] And so much better than someone, you know, any time prior to that.

[1738] So check this out.

[1739] My grandmother's 90.

[1740] So the women on her side of family are longer.

[1741] My grandmother's mother died at 107.

[1742] So between them, too, you got over it.

[1743] You know, you got like over 200 years.

[1744] That's incredible.

[1745] So, uh, it's just an interesting time frame.

[1746] You know, when you, when we look back at people that lived like a couple hundred years ago, we think to ourselves like, fuck that.

[1747] Yeah.

[1748] You know, especially if you were a slave or if you, look, even if you were a free person living in America in 1810.

[1749] Let's just go to 1810.

[1750] Just a regular person.

[1751] Like, you and I don't want to do that.

[1752] You don't want to go back.

[1753] to that fucking life like good lord good luck getting fresh milk good luck finding vegetables in most cities like good luck like getting everything delivered to you they didn't even have cars yet man well this is a bit this is a good thing i since i live i was born in athens my first six years in athens is a small town where uGA is you've been in athens before so everything i ate vegetable -wise was grown you know in that area in the yard in the backyard that's amazing they're the the The grapes were on the vine.

[1754] The tomatoes came out the ground.

[1755] The chickens, you know, my grandfather hauled chicken.

[1756] So the eggs came out of the backyard.

[1757] Wow.

[1758] We were hunting dogs.

[1759] He shot deer.

[1760] We were fish on Saturdays, cut the fish, heads off, get the skin off, and then fry them in the yard.

[1761] He took the grapes from the vines and made wine.

[1762] And if he caught abundance of fish, he would keep enough for the family.

[1763] And all the neighbors traded food.

[1764] food.

[1765] So my first six years is like, when you know, when you eight or ten, they put a pellet gun in your hand, you work your way up to the hunting rifles.

[1766] Um, so that's what I left when I moved to the city.

[1767] That's interesting.

[1768] So I was a country, so vegetables and everything tasted good.

[1769] You know, you get the corn off the stalk and then grandma was, and corn was yellow.

[1770] It was like a lighter color.

[1771] It was like a whitest color.

[1772] She made cream corn from scratch um the preserves it was your jelly was made um the the rabbits the squirrel the pecans fell out of the tree you start you hunger you just go outside any time and grab food you grab two peanuts put squeezing with your hand you got a snack you know and that's that was the first like six years like food was there wow beans you put them you get a bucket you open them you You run your thumb through them, which I didn't like none of that, but that's what it was.

[1773] Well, there's something beautiful about that, right?

[1774] At this point, yeah, at this point, because they're overcharging for that stuff now.

[1775] But farming is not easy, but they made it look easy.

[1776] Well, it's large scale.

[1777] Everybody could do it like that.

[1778] You'd have to have small populations of people with good pieces of land.

[1779] Like, you know, I'm sure your grandfather had a, have some.

[1780] My grandfather had a similar situation in New Jersey.

[1781] He had a pretty good size backyard, and it was all garden.

[1782] He had his area where he would drive to his driveway, and then everything to the right of the driveway was all sticks in the ground and tomato plants, and my grandfather grew everything.

[1783] And they turned their tomatoes into tomato sauce.

[1784] My grandmother made homemade tomato sauce, and like all of his vegetables, he would grow everything that he would eat all year would be like in that garden.

[1785] That was a normal thing for the immigrants, you know, for people who grew, who came here from other parts of the world where, you know, you had to have a supply of food where you lived.

[1786] I mean, it only makes sense.

[1787] We figured out a way to truck things in people have, you know.

[1788] Once we start trucking things in, nobody grows anything anymore.

[1789] I heard a story about people like, my uncle and his friend, I have him money, and they put $300 together and bought a goat and ate off that goat, you know.

[1790] Smart.

[1791] Yeah, they fed it a little bit, and they ate off of it for like a month.

[1792] Yeah, if you kill a goat in your yard, though, and people find that, down about it.

[1793] This is my friend, I don't need to say his name, but my Gardner guy that I was talking about earlier.

[1794] Yeah.

[1795] He, uh, well, his name's Jose.

[1796] It's not like you don't know, you don't know which Jose it is.

[1797] I'm like, I don't want to give away his identity.

[1798] And it's probably Jose Gaseko.

[1799] No, no, no. But this, uh, he, uh, he got a goat.

[1800] And, uh, him and, uh, his, his friends killed it in the yard and uh, butchered it.

[1801] And then they had a cookout.

[1802] And, uh, the neighbor, complained apparently and he didn't understand like he was like what do you like what's bothering you about this like what is he didn't like he literally didn't understand he's like it's safe it's healthy like this is an animal I know I know where the meat's coming from you know he's trying to explain this to me and it's broken English he's like I know where this animal's meat comes from like why would anybody have a problem with that if you you buy meat yourself I don't know like he didn't understand you know he came from Mexico he did just did not understand where someone have a problem with him killing a goat in a yard.

[1803] It's like, of course I killed the goat in the yard.

[1804] Where do you want me to kill it?

[1805] Yeah.

[1806] It didn't make sense to him.

[1807] They're like, you can't kill a goat in the yard.

[1808] He's like, where the fuck do you kill your goat?

[1809] And they're like, you don't kill your goat.

[1810] Yeah, it's strange.

[1811] Like, where do you get your meat?

[1812] You go to the store.

[1813] He's like, well, but you don't know where that fucking meat even came from.

[1814] And his idea, that was alien.

[1815] It's the logic, man, of how things happen.

[1816] It's weird.

[1817] And you, like, yeah, if you talk to older people, you understand, like, struggle.

[1818] You know, and what people, you know, actually went through and on the good part.

[1819] Like, you know, my grandma told me about the first dryer she had.

[1820] Whoa.

[1821] And my grandmother is like, you know, don't use it once a month.

[1822] Once a month.

[1823] Yeah, don't, because they, you know, it's better to dry the linen in the sun.

[1824] It's still better to dry your clothes in the sun because the sun kills bacteria.

[1825] Really?

[1826] That's why you want to, if you look at how to tie it.

[1827] When they say, how do you take care of denim and keep it from fading?

[1828] They'd be like, wet it and hang it in the sun because the sun kills the bacteria and gets rid of the smell.

[1829] Wait a minute.

[1830] Genes fade because of bacteria?

[1831] No, you want to clean your jeans because it might get smells.

[1832] And when you break it in jeans, you really don't wash them like that.

[1833] You know, you wear them just like everyday type stuff.

[1834] And the dye and the denim fades and the cotton shrinks and all that if you wash it.

[1835] So you hang them in the sun.

[1836] you know to keep it from shrinking the keeping from shrinking yeah it was it was heat though that was doing that just the water and then the evaporation from the extreme heat the extreme heat that's what makes them shrink right yeah but if you're hanging in the sun you still the sun still kills some of the bacteria and stuff it makes sense but if you ever dry if you ever like we don't do it here but I did something when I had to stay in the country home and you wash like a sheet or a shirt and you're hanging in the sun and let the air hit it and it's just the freshness of the smell, you know.

[1837] And what was smart about this place, they put the lemon trees near the hanging place, so now your clothes got a lemon smell to it.

[1838] Right.

[1839] Because the wind that comes through.

[1840] That makes sense.

[1841] Yeah.

[1842] That actually makes sense.

[1843] But if you're in a city and it's polluted.

[1844] Yeah, that's different.

[1845] That's different.

[1846] Yeah, your clothes might smell funky.

[1847] Like, that's the weirdest thing to me is when people around people who smoke cigarettes, how strong the smell is in their clothes.

[1848] They're strong.

[1849] Like, I never realized it until I would come home from back when you could smoke in clubs.

[1850] It was a big thing in comedy clubs, man. I mean, everybody smoked.

[1851] It was just constant.

[1852] You would go to a bar, everybody smoked.

[1853] You would go to comedy clubs, everybody smoked.

[1854] And I remember not realizing what I smelled like, and then taking a shower, and then picking up my clothes and be like, what the fuck?

[1855] Yeah.

[1856] Like they stunk It smells bad That is a weird thing man That people have something That gives them cancer It makes everyone around them stink Like not even me I wasn't even smoking But being around those people Made me stink And people are like Who cares I need my smokes I used to smell like gasoline When I had the 944 Because they had a hairline crack in the gas tank.

[1857] Oh, yeah.

[1858] So if you fill it all the way up, the fumes are getting the car.

[1859] My barracuda, I used to have to drive with the window open.

[1860] Fucking terrible smoking fumes and shit we're getting in that car.

[1861] Oh, it's the worst smell.

[1862] I remember that car.

[1863] I met you, and I asked you about that car, and you really broke it down.

[1864] Kind of what...

[1865] And it was like, oh, it's a real old -school car.

[1866] Like, the problems that people I know have were old schools.

[1867] That car was built to look great.

[1868] That was problem with that car the suspension the setup and everything was very low it was very low to the ground because it was so low to the ground it would bottom out on things it wasn't it didn't handle very well because it wasn't designed for that it was just designed to be like a really low car like it was tubbed so the back the back area where the back seat is was all cut out and then the frame was welded and bent up so that the wheel tucked deep into the back wheel well it looks great but it's stupid as fuck I watched it being made and you know I learn with my friends who got old school cars once you start you just can't modify one thing with certain cars you know especially when it comes with like suspension and wheels and not doing the brakes well you know what they do now that's really interesting they do these different companies have suspensions and frames that they build for these old cars because that's one of the problems of those old cars you're like the suspension and the frames are just so whack like you don't have fully independent suspension The way it's all set up is so old school.

[1869] So they have some upgrades, and that can definitely enhance the way these cars perform.

[1870] But now they do, certain companies like Art Morrison, they take a suspension, and they build a frame and a suspension.

[1871] Say if you're going to build, like, a 1969 Mustang, they would build a frame and suspension for the 69 Mustang.

[1872] And then you take the old body and you bolt it down to this modern frame and suspension.

[1873] You have a car that performs infinitely better than the original car.

[1874] It's going to be way stiffer.

[1875] It's way better designed.

[1876] And then they have all these suspension improvements.

[1877] Now they've figured out a way to make suspensions that adjust the way a modern car does.

[1878] So it adjusts constantly, like, thousands of times a second.

[1879] It's like if you're driving a car, like you say like you get a brand new BMW 7 series.

[1880] Those things are smooth as a baby's ass.

[1881] Just, ooh, you drive them are so comfortable, man. And one of the reasons why they're so comfortable is the suspension is constantly adjusting.

[1882] It's constantly adjusting to whether it's bumpy outside or smooth.

[1883] And every bump that it hits, it calibrates what it needs to do to adjust for this impact, and you get this incredibly stabilized ride.

[1884] I'm doing a shitty job of explaining.

[1885] There's a lot of people right now that are car experts like, you don't know shit about cars.

[1886] That makes sense.

[1887] I know enough to kind of butcher that.

[1888] but this uh they've known now they know how to do that with old school cars so they can take that 1969 Mustang yeah and put a similar type of computerized suspension arrangement in it where it's constantly adjusting to the um the the the um the sustain they're also figuring out uh how to do an unlock brakes on old cars they haven't figured out totally yet that's tough that's a little bit of a struggle my uh a friend of mine he he bills and says sales cars, but he knows exactly which ones he liked, like the 71 Chaville.

[1889] Oh, yeah.

[1890] He had the 68 Cobra, which I drove, and that was two cars that scary I drove.

[1891] The 68 Cobra Mustang, which he put 10 ,000 into the motor, and it was like over 500 horses.

[1892] And if it rained a little bit, for me, it had a Kenny Bell blower on it.

[1893] Oh, God.

[1894] And that was my first experience with a supercharger, and how hype they are.

[1895] It's like, you can lose control of that car.

[1896] Easy.

[1897] And a viper.

[1898] Oh, Jesus.

[1899] Yeah, I drove a viper before.

[1900] Dude, I drove one of those ones.

[1901] I rented one.

[1902] I was valet.

[1903] I got lucky.

[1904] And just in Idol, that car goes.

[1905] It just goes.

[1906] Oh, yeah.

[1907] Oh, you've seen the new ones?

[1908] Yeah, I saw a new one.

[1909] They have, pull this up.

[1910] They have this new viper.

[1911] Viper AR or something, I think it's called.

[1912] I think that's what it's called.

[1913] Attack.

[1914] They have like an attack mode.

[1915] This thing is fucking insane.

[1916] It's basically a. race car that you could buy.

[1917] But what they're doing with these Vipers is they're bringing them to these race tracks and it just breaks every record.

[1918] Every race track they take it on, this thing breaks records and it looks ridiculous.

[1919] Even in curves or just straight away?

[1920] Oh, fuck yeah, curves.

[1921] It's got giant tires on it.

[1922] The tires are super wide and it's got more than 600 horsepower.

[1923] What does it call, Jamie?

[1924] ACR.

[1925] ACR.

[1926] That's it.

[1927] You've got to look at this thing.

[1928] The deep bevels in the hood.

[1929] Look at that thing.

[1930] Get the fuck out of here.

[1931] Are you kidding me?

[1932] It's supposed to be just a fucking preposterous automobile.

[1933] And you could buy that at a store.

[1934] I mean, it has ground effects that come right out of a race car.

[1935] Yeah.

[1936] But this thing is insane.

[1937] When people review it, when they review it, that's like you in Tapan Canyon, going sideways.

[1938] Why not far?

[1939] It was just a little bit.

[1940] You know, if you go a little bit, that's just long enough.

[1941] Yes.

[1942] Less than a second is long.

[1943] long enough oh for fun yeah to you know it's a great road keep play some more that shit don't shut it off you know it's a great road to um to go to there's a road off of um the two Chris but Chris yeah yeah the I know what you talk about I don't know the name of it it's a road off the two but it's um like if you take the 210 yeah and uh you head towards like Pasadena and you go up into the mountains yeah you know there's this crazy a bad And in roads.

[1944] Well, you might not have anybody out there except maybe like a dude on a motorcycle.

[1945] And everything's like turningy and twisty.

[1946] They do a lot of testing out there.

[1947] If you go out there, you'll see like mules, like a car that they cover it.

[1948] Like they would take this car and then they would cover it over with like graphics and maybe even some plastic or something so you couldn't tell what it looked like.

[1949] I've seen that before.

[1950] It's kind of dope.

[1951] Look at that thing.

[1952] Jesus Christ.

[1953] Yeah, they're trying to get me to go up to, somebody's trying to get me to go up to the Crest Highway up there off the two and one.

[1954] It's fun.

[1955] Go up there.

[1956] Go up there with your car.

[1957] Because you don't even have to drive fast to have a good time up there.

[1958] But I don't drive fast on any of them.

[1959] If there's a car from me, I might slow up and wait for it to go by.

[1960] But I'm doing like 40, 40, which is a lot.

[1961] That's down a double for what you're supposed to do.

[1962] Yeah.

[1963] Well, with a car like this, you wouldn't be doing that.

[1964] You'd be going a lot faster.

[1965] That's the problem with these cars as opposed to like an old car.

[1966] Like, say if you got like an old BMW, you know what I really like?

[1967] 2002.

[1968] Yeah, I love those.

[1969] They're cool, man. Man. And they're little and they're boxy.

[1970] But when you drive those things, apparently you feel everything.

[1971] They're so small.

[1972] I'll see this.

[1973] See if you could pull up the smoking tire 2 -0 -0 -2.

[1974] Some dude had a souped -up one.

[1975] And not even souped up like he put a giant engine.

[1976] It was just like a really well -done version of that engine.

[1977] But he's driving around in it.

[1978] I met Matt before.

[1979] Matt Farrow?

[1980] Yeah, he came to come in the club twice.

[1981] Yeah, he's a big.

[1982] comedy fan yeah he's a good dude he's he's a real good dude and he fucking loves cars so this is uh give me some volume on this this is uh he's what i really like about him too is he's like a regular dude like yeah he's not trying to pretend to be some super professional presenter he's just a guy who knows a fuckload about cars and really loves him look at this thing man what year is that jamie properly from what I can see So this 2002 No No that's the name of the car Jamie You think that car is for 2002 Doesn't say what year I was running to They've swapped the interior For this Lux package Which is only available in Europe Let's um Let's scoot ahead so you can hear what it feels like when he's driving this thing Yeah Here we go The M10 is an interesting motor Because on the one hand, it was sort of BMW's corporate engine at the time, but it actually made its way all the way up to Formula One.

[1983] And they would use these used seasoned M10 blocks to build their crazy turbo Formula One engines.

[1984] And there's a really neat documentary about the history of the M10 engine.

[1985] Okay.

[1986] See, that's what I'm saying.

[1987] This dude is a serious geek when it comes to cars.

[1988] So it really knows his shit, though.

[1989] You know what I like when he's in the car?

[1990] car with a person who built the car.

[1991] How much time and money you put in it?

[1992] Like, man, I put all this time and his money and his energy in it.

[1993] And he was like, that's the prettiest, pretty.

[1994] You're not going to find another car like this.

[1995] And he was about to drive it.

[1996] And he'll take off.

[1997] He'll like, the brakes are a little squishy and the suspension is a little off.

[1998] But it's got a nice little pull to it.

[1999] It's like, he just started out with the disc, like just diss it off the top.

[2000] He just is honest.

[2001] Yeah.

[2002] That's what I like about it.

[2003] Jamie?

[2004] 66 to 77.

[2005] Dope little car, man. A little fucking beer can, though.

[2006] You know, I had a chance, a pleasure to meet, and I used to try to, I used to drive around downtown in my 9 -44 and see if I could find him in night.

[2007] Magnus?

[2008] Yeah, Magnus.

[2009] Yeah.

[2010] I had a pleasure meeting.

[2011] Somebody was trying to get rid of a 9 -28, and we went over there and he showed us around.

[2012] Oh, yeah?

[2013] No, he's a real friendly guy.

[2014] Yeah.

[2015] His place is amazing, too.

[2016] Those old, he's so many old Porsches.

[2017] Yeah.

[2018] I think he's got, like, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.

[2019] He's probably got at least 10 of them.

[2020] No, it's more, I counted like 17, just in the main room.

[2021] And he got some more like the 9 -4s and 914s off the side.

[2022] He's got a bunch of turbos too.

[2023] Yeah.

[2024] Quite a few turbos now.

[2025] He really got into a turbo phase where he's buying like those 9 -30 turbos.

[2026] Yeah, he's an interesting character, man, because his love of, oh, I see that, his crash, he fucked up.

[2027] Oh, boom.

[2028] Shit.

[2029] Yeah, that was really dumb.

[2030] you got a little silly wow he plowed into the back or the side of his car into the back of a giant it looks like a car carrier yeah just that's why you're not supposed to drive like that Byron it's not supposed to go sideways on public roads I wasn't that side I just my ass wiggled a little bit I caught it his cars are all like pretty reasonably horsepowered up too Magnus's car is like he doesn't have anything like really crazy but Sharkworks gave him one of their cars to drive around for a little and uh shark works made an 800 horsepower GT2 and Magnus painted it like a different paint scheme you know he likes those crazy paint schemes I got a picture with that one Oh that GT2?

[2031] That's that was sitting outside Yeah um that car is scared the fuck out of me I drove that car Oh for real scared the fuck out of me it's one of the few cars where I drove it once I was like I'm good I'm like This is too much I see yours And I'm like I'm good I just want to stock You know I like naturally aspirated Because the way it pulls At the same time It's like taking Like a nice little breather in There it is right there Yeah I saw that car That car is so fast It just doesn't even make any sense This thing's a riot Look back up See downhill With the gravity assist See he's he's taking in around some corners here.

[2032] Actually, this is the exact same road where I took it.

[2033] I was there at this time.

[2034] I was there with them when they were doing this.

[2035] But this car is too fast.

[2036] It's too fast.

[2037] I mean, it's not maybe too fast for a race car driver, but too fast for a guy like me. Because it's just, you don't, like, one of the cool things about, like, that 2002 is you get to ring the engine out.

[2038] There's a lot of range where you can drive it.

[2039] You know, you rev it up, and that's where you get your power and you can go plenty fast in it.

[2040] But the handling of those cars a lot of times it's connected to the lightness and the whole, all the feel of the car is coming from the fact that it's not, there's not a lot there.

[2041] This car is a totally different experience.

[2042] This car is like all about managing the pedal because if you stomp on the pedal, that fucking thing is going spinning.

[2043] It's way too powerful.

[2044] But, you know, it's one of those things where they keep coming up with new and improve cars every year cars get faster and faster and faster especially performance cars they've broken the three second barrier a lot of cars you could buy today go zero to 60 in less than three seconds there's a gang of them I want to drive a Bugatti or sit in one dude not drive it but just sit in one that might as well be a spaceship the uh those Veyrons yeah those are ridiculous the um yeah my homework he built he built this 69 Shelby, the 68 got damaged, so the insurance had to cut him a check, and he spent that money and built a 69 that I haven't drove, and he don't drive it as much because it's worth a lot of money.

[2045] Look at that, 1 ,200 horsepower.

[2046] That's a lot.

[2047] That's ridiculous.

[2048] That's a ridiculous car.

[2049] I saw one of those the other day in Beverly Hills.

[2050] Someone was bawling.

[2051] Was it the The yellow and black one?

[2052] No. What color was it?

[2053] I don't remember what color.

[2054] I want to say it was white, but it had Arab license plates on it, which is really interesting.

[2055] Oh, yeah.

[2056] They're getting these cars and these super rich dudes from Saudi Arabia.

[2057] Yeah.

[2058] They bring them over for Saudi summer.

[2059] See, that's what's going on right now.

[2060] Where we are is hot as fuck.

[2061] Where they live, it's way hard.

[2062] Where they live, it's like 150 fucking degrees or something nutty.

[2063] and so they come over here when they've got crazy oil money they come over here and they bring that um they bring these cars with their plates that are registered to those other places and they drive them around and they get away with it because they're super rich there's nothing dude did you see that shit that happened where these guys were racing in beverly hills they were racing with a Ferrari and a gt3 a Porsche gt3 and they were fucking racing on a residential street in in beverly hills was flying through fucking red lights.

[2064] And the neighbors saw them do it.

[2065] So the neighbors all were fucking furious.

[2066] They're all standing outside on their street, holding up their cameras, and filming these guys, right?

[2067] Here it is right here.

[2068] Look, this guy's got them.

[2069] Oh, it's a Ferrari.

[2070] It looks like, I don't know which version.

[2071] But in the GT3, I mean, these guys are flying down residential roads.

[2072] You got two things run at the same time, buddy.

[2073] You got two windows running But So while these guys are doing this The neighbors are aware of it So they start Filming Because they probably do See everybody And then so this car fucking Start smoking The guy's engine started smoking And he pulled it into his driveway But look at everybody Standing out here With their fucking cameras They all realize Like oh my god This guy is a piece of shit No one cop inside That's crazy to me But it's so funny Everybody's like World Star.

[2074] That car's going to blow up.

[2075] Everybody's assuming that car is going to explode.

[2076] So they're filming it.

[2077] So this guy was driving his car so fast and so hard that it caught on fire.

[2078] I'll never buy a fucking Ferrari, by the way.

[2079] My people should not be designing things.

[2080] I saw a 9 -18 with the Dubai plates on it.

[2081] Yes.

[2082] And they had the nerve to put the silver metallic paint on it.

[2083] So not only bought an expensive car.

[2084] they put the real like made the car look chrome oh i've seen that justin bieber had one of those he had a chrome fisker uh how do i know that why because i'm friends of jamie jamie tells me these things the cops and shout out to the cops in uh beverly hills because they're nice you know i was coming through there a part fell off my my my porch that holds the alternator and the in the serpentine belt together so the car would just lose power right so i'm riding through beverly hills i was going to the summit uh there's a place on my hull and drive i was staying there and um i'm in beverly here with no lights on just driving up the street and um cops pull us over and turn off the car i can't turn off the car why not because it's not gonna come back home but turn it off they was like what let me explain till you what's going on there's a piece of me i'm trying to explain to them the mechanics they was like no i was like i was get out the car and you can do whatever you need to do to me but if this car cuts off here it's going to be here and uh i had my my african home boy who i just went to d r with me right and uh he was like hey officer what's going on he's like i'm going to show you how powerful this thing is that i do and he's like look i work for the r s uh worked for the government i i work for the national government rs yeah yeah yeah he's like i got the irs you know what's saying the IRS they should have shot them on sight so everybody's afraid of the IRS yeah they're terrified so he pulled the badge out yada yada yada yada and then he was like okay you free to go and I was in somebody shrubs and uh you know there was a cop right there he was like sir you don't have to be so close in like in the bushes and I remember looking and I'm looking at him like but sometimes it's fun having your face in the bush and I smiled and he was just like he's like just step away just go they never get my jokes you know what I mean well there's tents and uh so they're pulling people over no lights they can't shut their car off they don't know what kind of crazy shit you're doing yeah that's true I mean you pull up to a dude there's two dudes one of them's from the from Africa who works for the IRS the other one's a comedian with some weird jokes their cars running they can't they can't shut the car off there's something to talk about in the office right but a lot of shit could be going on here like whenever you deal with someone who won't they don't have their lights on that's weird Like, okay, why is this guy not have his fucking lights on?

[2085] And then you deal with another thing, you won't shut his car off.

[2086] What?

[2087] What's going on?

[2088] Like, there's a bunch of shit that's supposed to happen.

[2089] One, you're supposed to have your lights on, you get pulled over, you shut your car off, you show your ID.

[2090] Everything is supposed to go according to plan.

[2091] So you're throwing in all these new loopholes.

[2092] It's an improv game we're doing.

[2093] No lights, okay?

[2094] Why aren't you have lights?

[2095] I can't.

[2096] Doesn't work.

[2097] Alternator, got an issue.

[2098] All right, shut your car off.

[2099] I can't, shut a car off.

[2100] It stays here.

[2101] I'm going to tell you some true stuff.

[2102] When I moved here, I had a Honda Prelude.

[2103] I put a timer belt in it, fourth generation drove it here.

[2104] I used to get pulled over it all the time, black on black.

[2105] I lived in Englewood, and I realized, like, all the time, I get my car search, put in the back of the police cars, and I talked to a cop, and he told me about proximity and how criminals operate, and when they wake up, they get descriptions in the morning, and if you fit that description, they're going to profile you.

[2106] And that's when I realized, like, oh, I'm living in the wrong neighborhood, driving the wrong vehicle.

[2107] So when I got the 9 -44, I get what I call corporate old white man colors that champagne or that boring gray and I just drive and now I have really no problems you know what I mean that's what I that's the things like how my mind works sometimes to figure out that pattern and be like okay if this is what it's getting pulled over and stuff then I need to you know I don't know if it's the survival in you or what it's like I have to shift and some people really be like I don't feel like I should shift like that but I'm like you know the cops The cops would be like slow down.

[2108] I missed up in the...

[2109] I was doing 60 on Franklin one time.

[2110] Just enjoying my life.

[2111] You know what I mean?

[2112] There's white women jogging and everything down the street.

[2113] I'm like, this ain't bad.

[2114] You know, life is great.

[2115] I tell jokes.

[2116] And the cops were just like, sir, can you slow down?

[2117] And I remember putting my hand out of the window.

[2118] Like, no problem, officer.

[2119] And that was it.

[2120] And I was like, this is amazing right here.

[2121] But I also experienced another white privilege thing when I had an accident in the 9 -44 and it was the Latino people and a guy got out of the car the cop showed up and I was sitting on the car the old white guy he was like sir is this your car I was like yes sir he was like okay everything's gonna be okay and then he went he lit into the Mexican people to where I got uncomfortable to what I almost said something to the who's yelling at the Mexican people assuming they were going over like this ain't regulation and where's the paperwork for this and asking them all the time let me see your ID when did you get this And me coming from Georgia, I'm used to seeing black people tree but no other culture.

[2122] So I almost stepped in, but something was like, hold on, don't, and I remember sitting on the car like, damn, feeling guilty like, this is white, white guilt feels like.

[2123] But I'm still on the other side, right?

[2124] Right.

[2125] So I'm just letting it ride.

[2126] Like, you know.

[2127] That's funny.

[2128] But like I said before, it's like, when you're in that place where you see, see different stuff it shapes you somehow it gets that understanding like I think with a lot of cops something can happen to where they pull over so many people that are illegal immigrants they start getting upset they start getting upset of it and they treat it like disproportionately you know I've seen a lot of fucking people that are driving illegally in Los Angeles that's true I got rear -ended by a dude that's right I remember that yeah this dude is no driver's license but I know a lot of white people who are driving illegally and they don't worry about it because yeah nothing happens oh you do if you get pulled over though if they find out if a cop finds out you're driving illegally you're in trouble yeah for sure everybody no matter who you are if they find out they'll tell your car but the odds are you getting pulled over is kind of slim um yes the odds are greater if you are black or if you're Mexican of getting pulled over I would say that's probably definitely true cut to me getting out the car like this and he's like no not you and you like oh I was just I was just stretching, you know.

[2129] Yeah.

[2130] But, you know, it's what it is to me, you know what I mean?

[2131] Look, I wouldn't want to be a fucking cop.

[2132] Oh, no. No, I think, me, honestly, I think their job is too nerve -wrecking.

[2133] For the regular person.

[2134] I think so, too.

[2135] And they don't make enough money to go through the mental part of it.

[2136] Exactly.

[2137] It affects their relationships and their family life.

[2138] Suicides.

[2139] Yeah.

[2140] A lot of cops commit suicide.

[2141] A lot of cops feel despair.

[2142] It's a crazy job.

[2143] It's a crazy job, you know?

[2144] Yeah.

[2145] Like, yeah.

[2146] They got to go.

[2147] Like I said, they got a reputation.

[2148] Cops have almost a reputation now of a black man. To where it's like, they like, people look at them like.

[2149] People prejudiced against cops.

[2150] And it's like, oh, to me it's like, oh, shit.

[2151] It's true.

[2152] This is ironic.

[2153] And they have to go in those situations.

[2154] They have to go to the hood with that reputation.

[2155] Yep.

[2156] with that outfit on and that's a scary thing yeah I mean if your outfit is being represented by people that doing fucked up things like those videos that we were talking about earlier yeah that's your outfit that's the team you're on so you have to go and you know that these people are gonna see you look at you and know that you represent that team that they've been watching on these videos and I'm from a place where the cops look like you so the cops that treated you fucked up look like you that's even dark well they were dirty so it's a different ball game you know mean yeah um but that's what it is it's so much that isn't understood outside of the videos that are being do you think there's a way on stage that you can relay a lot of this stuff that you're talking about so i feel like um if you could figure out a way to make humor out of the difference between your background growing up and what you're experiencing now and just your own your own unique perspective yeah I'm talking I'm slowly talking about it yeah like you can ask Tosh when I worked with Tosh my opening joke I walk on stage and be like not all black lives matter some niggas should die and that's a shot just in 30 seconds I'll get a applause break in 30 seconds at the tense time of that and by that I'm telling them I explain the story of the protest when traffic is being held up and I'm driving with my gas light on yeah and I'm like I just don't, if this, my car dies, I'm a hostage in the situation I don't want to be in.

[2157] And then feeling sorry for that black guy who's stuck in traffic and don't know why.

[2158] And every white person looking at him.

[2159] And he's like, this ain't got nothing to do with me. I'm just on my way to Orange County.

[2160] So I can fuck this white girl.

[2161] That was the bit.

[2162] But all of us based on truth.

[2163] Right.

[2164] You know what I mean?

[2165] On truth.

[2166] I felt like when those Black Lives Matter protesters were shutting down highways, I'm like, fucking white people.

[2167] It was white people that are trying too hard to be down with Black Lives Matter so they took it to the highway and shut down the highway so I knew this one dude who's like a super super lefty guy and he was a part of the Black Lives Matter shutting down highways and I was like what are you doing man out in Berkeley super super liberal crazy people it is a hierarchy of black people just like a hardack of white people and me and Jamar neighbors we say some shit like you know real niggas don't go fuck about black issues which is true because they're in survival mode you know I mean you know so things like you know education and shit like that don't really matter who even to me like I didn't talk about politics going on so I really don't care about politics that's how I feel about it like I still got a grind either way do you care at all like when you when you're looking at Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump like what's your thought you just don't think about it I think I think and I said it's before before everything got crazy Trump got crazy I understand sometimes where he's coming from through educational purposes I understand Republican mindset you know what I mean Right Because I was taught to export businesses And stuff like that You know all that makes sense to me But I don't think I think this part is for ratings I see it as a show And I think I think Trump is like a character I definitely think they want everybody to vote for Hillary I think they're going to lead people that way like you leave water to go down a certain ravine and then Hillary is going to make because their personality ain't the best.

[2168] It ain't like a Barack Obama.

[2169] People be like, I like this lady.

[2170] But I think once she get in, she's going to be in too kind.

[2171] Her personnel is terrible.

[2172] Well, you know, I think she's going to make some adjustments on the low that's going to really fuck up people.

[2173] She does things that make me super nervous, too.

[2174] There's a thing of, you ever see the video of her where she was talking about Gaddafi?

[2175] She was laughing about how, I think she says, we came, we saw, he died.

[2176] Yeah.

[2177] And it was like off camera.

[2178] Like, I don't think she realized that she was being filmed or this is just not her behaving.

[2179] Like, I'm going to play it for you.

[2180] This, this.

[2181] We came, we saw, he died.

[2182] Yes, we came, we saw, he died.

[2183] What is basically.

[2184] And she's also looking off at someone else, like.

[2185] for their approval.

[2186] She's not even looking at the woman she's talking to necessarily.

[2187] It's just, that's a weird thing to joke about the enormity, the magnitude of assassinating a foreign leader, whether he's a dictator or not.

[2188] Like, there's a lot going on there.

[2189] You are overthrowing the ruler of a government, even though he's a terrible rule.

[2190] And you are now opening up that government and those people that were being suppressed by that government, you are opening them up to the turmoil of establishing a new leader.

[2191] That's true.

[2192] And that's where it is right now.

[2193] So when you see someone who is running for president and they are joking around about a scenario that has taken place that they were a part of, she was a part of, and that scenario is now directly connected to horrific tragedies and this chaos, that is an ISIS stronghold now.

[2194] Libya is an ISIS stronghold.

[2195] so i yeah that that that that situation is not not um yeah i can't discuss that on Libya yeah yeah what's none of those things are good you know whenever you have a brutal dictator like iraq yeah saddam hussein it's not good when the world is entertaining brutal dictators there's a brutal dictator that's in charge of these people they're they're you know it's not fair it's dangerous yeah and we have to interact with this person in some way I love a country where it's a curfew and I think that's going to happen here but I just love a country where it was a curfew for women at a certain time and they would if a chick was out by herself they just put her straight in the van what yeah and if a dude was out and his lights wasn't right and he's on a motorbike the cop got on the back with him and rode him with it to jail he had to take the cop to jail Whoa.

[2196] So, yeah, there's certain things like, you know, that is like, wow, that I see, like, it happened here.

[2197] And as far as, like, that video, to me, that's how people power act.

[2198] When I say, like, real, like, rich or successful, powerful people like that and poor people, I always tell people they don't give a fuck.

[2199] The people in the middle are the ones that's timid and, like, we should do this for animals and that.

[2200] But those people and poor people, like, if you listen to their jokes, they don't give a fuck.

[2201] just like guys I met who talked about man I shot three times man I shot the first time didn't go through and he started hobbling I was like oh shit and the gun jammed I got nervous like these are the stories so I had the ability to sit with both and just hear the and it ain't you know my comment is based on this too so I gotta be like one of these people too you know talking to somebody's murdered someone with a gun and it's laughing and joking around about it's got to be fucked up but it's like this guy didn't die but he did get hit you know right But you hear it's like somebody telling this story and they tell her how bad it was because you know they live it.

[2202] And it was over something simple.

[2203] Like, I told you next time I see you that this was going to go down, you know what I mean?

[2204] Right.

[2205] And it just went down, you know, over something simple.

[2206] But I always say like the people like that at the top and people at the bottom don't go, well, fuck.

[2207] And that's, and if you look at the politics now, you got Trump and you got their supporters, some rednecks and shit that people say they don't like those are like top and bottom people and pattern -wise but I think yeah if Hillary get in I think they're trying to lure everybody her way and then she's going on the low sign some document that's really going to fuck people up down the line those are my predictions why do you think she's going to do that you know how you find out you know how you find out later on like oh man that document that president signed three years ago fuck people up right oh yeah you know I mean there's a lot of those yeah so I think it's going to be something like that.

[2208] Well, she's gotten away with so much already.

[2209] That's what I'm saying.

[2210] She's gotten away with so much already.

[2211] The idea that she's going to stop once she gets in office is ridiculous.

[2212] Because she broke so many fucking laws with her email server, all the lies that she told about Benghazi all throughout her career.

[2213] There's like, there's many websites to document all the times they've caught her lying about like pretty important issues.

[2214] The idea that she's going to stop doing that once she becomes president is crazy.

[2215] She's gotten away with it.

[2216] She lies is when she talks about getting caught in lies.

[2217] Yeah.

[2218] Like when she talked about the FBI, having this long interview with her about her email server, there's a direct video that shows, like, the direct comparison between what she said and what he said.

[2219] What she said and what he said.

[2220] It's horrible.

[2221] It's horrible to watch.

[2222] Like, how is this person even qualified to run for office?

[2223] Forget about the fact that everybody wants a woman to be the new president.

[2224] I get it.

[2225] be fun for everybody yeah let's let's do it this is not the one it's fun for six months into that new car smell gone well this is she's not the one this is not the one you don't want this I mean the only thing good is that she's a long -term politician yeah so she understands the business the only thing bad is that she's a long -term politician she knows the business yeah so the both things are bad she know the business yeah you're right you said it right sucks and people understand it is a business you know I mean they mostly get caught up in it exactly but I definitely think uh i think people like we all should we can find a better way to do things better i'm hoping and not put power in like church and government and these things it's just hard it's got such a stranglehold yeah the idea that you have to register as either a democrat or republican to vote on the primaries the primaries decide which candidate is going to represent these parties it's a charade it's never been more obvious that it's a charade and i fully never learned learned because i look i look at the a picture in a pattern.

[2226] So, you know.

[2227] Well, Byron, we're going to come back in four years and we'll see if you're right about Hillary Clinton if she fucked up.

[2228] Because you remember just a little while ago?

[2229] Everybody was saying that Hillary Clinton, that the FBI was going to drop some bombshell and that more information was going to come out about the horrible things that she's involved with and she's done.

[2230] And then she's going to probably be indicted and then she's going to wind up pulling out.

[2231] She's not going to be running for president.

[2232] That was like the big rumors just a few months ago.

[2233] Now, Trump has got.

[2234] gotten so fucked up.

[2235] He's done so much stupid shit and said so much stupid shit.

[2236] And now, like, the Harvard Republican Club for the first time in over 100 years is coming out against the nominee.

[2237] There's, like, a bunch of different prominent politicians that have come out against him.

[2238] Like, you don't remember that.

[2239] Usually, by the time someone gets to a point where they're running for president, they're the Republican nominee, whether it's Mitt Romney or anyone else, like, they're kind of embraced, you know, like, okay, we've got the nominee, everything.

[2240] things in order, let's move forward.

[2241] That's not happening now.

[2242] Even with the election, just a couple of months away, people are freaking out, and they've got to go, we can't have this guy.

[2243] This guy can't be our guy.

[2244] Well, what happened in DR, they got a lady, you know, in charge, and it was some sneaky stuff like that, but when she got in, she started doing the curfews, and she took the Haitians and kicked them out.

[2245] You know, she gave them to be fair, she was like, you got this amount of money, you can stay.

[2246] But Yeah, so it got, and guys were showing me scars that allowed them to stay into, in the DR.

[2247] So, yeah, it got real for me over there because I finally talked to these dudes that used to be kids asked for money, and now they're adults asking for money.

[2248] Like, what's going on?

[2249] And they start breaking it down, like, yeah, to see a group of people just, like, kicked out of a country like that.

[2250] And it's like, man, maybe we should be glad we're lost tribe, but that could easily be, you know, It can always be worse, for sure.

[2251] Yeah, yeah.

[2252] And they look up to us.

[2253] It was like, you know, it was like, regardless of what happening, I know, there's got a lot of black people getting killed by the cops, but you still got a chance to be something.

[2254] And I couldn't even say nothing like.

[2255] And meanwhile, North Korea looks up to them.

[2256] North Korea, you know, at least they don't have to deal with dear leader.

[2257] They don't have to cry for hours and hours when his dad died.

[2258] If they don't cry correctly, they get put in jail for six months and forced to work in labor camps.

[2259] They have labor camps in North Korea where people are literally starving in death and they sick dogs on them and the dogs eat them.

[2260] I mean, this is Game of Thrones type shit and it's going on right now.

[2261] This guy who, he grew up in a slave camp.

[2262] He was a child of someone who was convicted of some sort of a crime and forced to work in these slave camps.

[2263] Grew up in his camp, did not know the rest of the world, did not know that there was a whole world out there and somehow another escaped.

[2264] But he talked about Turner's, own family in like they they had them they have everybody narcan on everybody turned his whole family in his description of the different levels of torture and treatment like different levels of slavery yeah like what you're capable of doing when you're almost dead what you're capable of doing like they have it like classified like what jobs you get dependent upon how how close you are to death fucking terrible man it's crazy like you yeah you hear these stories you meet people that's like one six degrees away from that yeah you know that's what's crazy is that you're It's 2016, and where we're living here in Los Angeles is super progressive, at the front line of culture.

[2265] We feel like, well, hey, everything's looking up.

[2266] Everything's getting great.

[2267] Not if you're in North Korea.

[2268] You've fucked up.

[2269] The world fucked you, and you got a, this is where you came out into the world.

[2270] That's your spot.

[2271] Or Namibia, what we were talking about before, an inch of rainfall in three years.

[2272] You're like, fuck.

[2273] Thirsty.

[2274] Fuck.

[2275] You got all that Kool -Aid and only the interwater coming.

[2276] If they even get Kool -Aid over there.

[2277] I don't think they get Kool -Aid.

[2278] No. They're fine.

[2279] It's not my mind processing.

[2280] They're starving.

[2281] That's, uh, there's not a lot of food there.

[2282] All that peanut butter they're eating and they can't.

[2283] I don't think so.

[2284] Okay.

[2285] They shoot animals and shit.

[2286] That's all they can do.

[2287] Byron Bowers, ladies and gentlemen.

[2288] Hey, this has been amazing, man. I'm glad we did this.

[2289] It was cool.

[2290] And, uh, check out Byron if you're ever in Los Angeles or if you're ever anywhere he's performing.

[2291] He's fucking hilarious.

[2292] What's you?

[2293] You got a website?

[2294] Byron BowersLive .com.

[2295] Uh, Twitter, Facebook.

[2296] at Byron Bowers, Snapchat, Byron Bowers live.

[2297] Instagram.

[2298] Instagram, Byron Bowers.

[2299] Love Instagram.

[2300] Me too.

[2301] All right.

[2302] Beautiful.

[2303] Thank y 'all.

[2304] Thanks, brother.

[2305] It's been fun.

[2306] Yay.

[2307] Have a good, whatever.

[2308] Whatever we doing.

[2309] Three hours.