138 - Live at the Red Rock Ballroom in Las Vegas

[0] This is exactly right.

[1] Hey, this is exciting.

[2] An all -new season of only murders in the building is coming to Hulu on August 27th.

[3] Steve Martin, Martin Short, and Selena Gomez are back as your favorite podcaster, detectives.

[4] But there's a mystery hanging over everyone.

[5] Who killed Saz?

[6] And were they really after Charles?

[7] Why would someone want to kill Charles?

[8] This season, murder hits close to home.

[9] With a threat against one of their own, the stakes are higher than ever.

[10] Plus, the gang is going to Hollywood to turn their podcast into a major movie.

[11] Amid the glitz and glamour of Los Angeles, more mysteries and twists arise.

[12] Who knows what will happen once the cameras start to roll?

[13] Get ready for the stariest season yet with Merrill Streep, Zach Alfinacus, Eugene Levy, Eva Longoria, Melissa McCarthy, DeVine, Joy Randolph, Molly Shannon, and more.

[14] Only murders in the building, premieres August 27th, streaming only on Hulu.

[15] Goodbye.

[16] What's up, Las Vegas?

[17] What the...

[18] Shit!

[19] Oh, my God.

[20] When was the last time this conference room had this many screaming people in it?

[21] Yeah, I'll tell you what.

[22] Last night, I'm much louder than Georgia.

[23] Much louder.

[24] Am I?

[25] Yes.

[26] Okay.

[27] What?

[28] Yes.

[29] I thought I thought I was way louder than it.

[30] I just thought you meant in life.

[31] Are you louder than me?

[32] No, that's a yes.

[33] Okay.

[34] I was going to say, it was super loud in here last night.

[35] They were selling time shares, and it was fucking nuts.

[36] It was like, they were the good ones.

[37] We bought them.

[38] Yeah.

[39] A couple of them.

[40] We bought a couple timeshires.

[41] Oh my God.

[42] You guys, how's it going?

[43] This is so exciting.

[44] This is our first show of 2018.

[45] Yeah.

[46] And nothing will live up to it.

[47] The screaming was incredible.

[48] And it's in a fully carpeted conference room.

[49] So it's more of an accomplishment what you guys are doing, making sound come out of basically a large one of those big cat apartment buildings but for people those people in the hallway are so confused as to what's going on in here they're like is this a Mormon thing what's happening you guys this is the best buffet it's a dollar 99 it's all waffles I think someone told the Red Rock casino that Beyonce was coming because we accidentally got it's not even a hotel room it's the nice I've never in my life I think we own this casino now the rooms that we're in what the fuck we're walking down the hallway we check in first yeah and then Karen is the first one to go to her room and we keep Vince and her walking still and then she picks her head out and goes what the fuck I thought it was mirrors when I look I swear to God I looked and I'm like cute mirrors and then I was like oh my God it's a whole room It's like marble, mirrors, be like an Egyptian pharaoh's dream come true, and it's nuts.

[50] Can we talk about the important thing, the bathrooms?

[51] Let me tell you about the bathrooms.

[52] Yes.

[53] It's one suite, two bedrooms.

[54] Four bathrooms.

[55] Four bathrooms.

[56] Two bathtubs.

[57] Per.

[58] Per.

[59] Heated, toilet, seats, and.

[60] Free that.

[61] Hot toilet seats.

[62] Hot toilet seats.

[63] Hot toilet seats.

[64] Hot ones.

[65] Yes, I am easily impressed.

[66] Well, Anne, I mean, I'm telling you, America needs to catch up on badees.

[67] Sorry, hold on, the girls in the front row are all saying hi.

[68] You're like fucking five minutes late and screaming high to each other, not to us.

[69] It's like, what the fuck is happening?

[70] Anyhow, bedaes, you guys, are insane.

[71] What the fuck?

[72] And then I...

[73] It's like a robot washing your ass.

[74] And then, so I call, I base time with my seven -year -old nephew to be like, he'll be interested in this, because he thinks I'm boring.

[75] Maybe he'll think I'm cool.

[76] And so I showed him around the place and all the incredible things.

[77] And oh, and the toilet, when you walk up to it, it opens on its own.

[78] Yeah.

[79] I'm like, this is like a fucking robot.

[80] This is so cool.

[81] I actually pulled it open.

[82] and it shut its...

[83] I'm not kidding.

[84] It scared the shit out of me. I was like, the toilet won't let me have it.

[85] It's like when you try to pump your own gas in certain places and you get like fine for it.

[86] But I want to take care of myself like I always have.

[87] Oregon says no. Can't do it.

[88] My nephew said, that's nice.

[89] Look at my house.

[90] And then he showed me the Minecraft game he was playing.

[91] He could not have given less of shit.

[92] That little asshole.

[93] Yeah.

[94] Well, I showed my sister, I sent her a bunch of pictures because that's her favorite thing.

[95] She likes it when we're in one normal hotel room with a nice bed and maybe a chair or a plant or something.

[96] That's exciting enough for her.

[97] And I just took this like five -minute video where I was like, in your face.

[98] You'll never see art like this again.

[99] A pool table, you stupid shit.

[100] It got really violent.

[101] But fun.

[102] But then I, then they, the doorbell rings, and it's the butler.

[103] I'm not joking.

[104] Wait, what?

[105] Are you guys mad?

[106] You don't get a butler?

[107] I got a butler.

[108] His name is John and he'll bring me anything I want.

[109] And he's here tonight.

[110] Get up here, you motherfucker.

[111] No, um, no, he's working for all the other high rollers and in better gamblers that are in this building right now.

[112] I don't think he works for the hotel.

[113] What?

[114] I think you just answered the door to us.

[115] I didn't get a butler.

[116] That's so, so.

[117] If you're going to try to creep into my room, please pretend to be a butler.

[118] It will work.

[119] Is he in your room right now?

[120] Is he waiting for you?

[121] Yeah, he just sits there.

[122] Okay.

[123] Can we get security?

[124] He basically showed me how to turn on the TV's.

[125] What?

[126] Yeah.

[127] Dude.

[128] Someone's getting fired, and it's Vince for not fucking getting the butler to come.

[129] And then here's Vince on the phone.

[130] I'm telling you, if they both don't get butlers, they will cancel the show.

[131] A podcast, a live podcast.

[132] I know you've never heard of it.

[133] Listen.

[134] There's two ladies.

[135] People like it.

[136] Wow.

[137] Podcast divas.

[138] That's who we are.

[139] Oh, God.

[140] I forgot.

[141] There's giant pictures of us.

[142] What?

[143] On the side there.

[144] Look.

[145] No. That's a bummer, huh?

[146] No. Can I tell you, the special guest tonight is the biggest Zid I've ever had in my fucking life.

[147] What's your hometown murder?

[148] I'm going to hold the mic right here the entire night.

[149] That's how you do it.

[150] If there was a close -up, it would look like Eileen Warnos in that crazy fucking photo.

[151] Like, that's my fucking Zit.

[152] What's your problem?

[153] What do you have going on?

[154] Are you the house photographer or you're someone's mom?

[155] Okay.

[156] She's just cute She's a sweet person That could have been a camera knife Of course the late people did nothing to help us Tell them about your foot Oh I sprained my ankle everybody Regular people like stuff like that That made me sick to my stomach Thank you I'm not wearing a brace normally I have like a little bit of a You know just from CVS a brace And I kind of just walk like I'm considering things see now.

[157] Just kind of like, mm -hmm, yeah, I see.

[158] I see.

[159] I saw when you got here.

[160] It's actually perfect for me because like this week in therapy we talked about me calming down with my impatience and need to go everywhere all the time immediately and freak the fuck out over everything, including in the airport, especially in the airport.

[161] So like, I have to slow down otherwise I'm an asshole.

[162] Just like, see, yeah, I'm like fucking speedwalking away.

[163] And I'm back there, go ahead, that's fine.

[164] That's fine.

[165] It's perfect timing.

[166] Oh, get my butler to pick me up.

[167] No big deal.

[168] No big deal.

[169] Oh, she got me on that one.

[170] Steven's not here.

[171] Oh, yeah, sorry.

[172] You don't even really like him that much.

[173] Don't fucking make it up.

[174] Now that sound I like.

[175] Can't explain it.

[176] He can't come on the road all the time.

[177] Yeah, he has my cats to watch.

[178] Yes.

[179] He has like 17 jobs.

[180] I mean, do you know how many emails you people send him?

[181] it's crazy you know what I was wondering do you think he like when he goes to my house when we're gone puts his mask mustache on every single like thing like touches the remote control with his mustache touches all the doorknobs with his mustache just be like if my mustache was here just a peek inside George's mind it sounds like what you need to do is set up a mustache nanny cam and catch that motherfucker in the act I think you're right I mean that's fine his DNA is all over my house then That's right.

[182] Moustache DNA?

[183] What if it's a fake mustache?

[184] I know it's a fake mustache.

[185] He's doing it for attention.

[186] Even that mustache.

[187] Now I have to stand like a horse because I have a sprained ankle.

[188] Did anyone else notice this?

[189] Oh, it looks casual.

[190] I'm a little Clyde's daily anyway, so I'm fine with it.

[191] Don't look at these screens, okay?

[192] Just look over here.

[193] Pretend those don't exist.

[194] I live through the 90s.

[195] Look at me. I lived I lived I don't like it I lived well this is my favorite murder the podcast Oh yeah Karen Kilgarra And that's your friend Georgia Hardstock right there This really sweet girl Who makes dresses in L .A. Name April just keeps fucking giving me her dresses Yeah she's smart Uh huh That's how you do business in L .A You just put the thing in the person's hand And then you're like Put this on sometime Oh, thank you, yes.

[196] Mine's from Target.

[197] 2999.

[198] And if any dress in the world should have pockets, it's this one, because it's practically a jumper.

[199] It's very childlike, and it has the 70s, you know, rank zip pull.

[200] Oh, that goes all the way to your belly button, doesn't it?

[201] I can do what I want right now.

[202] We could go a total after hours club style in here.

[203] I feel like...

[204] Right, Vegas?

[205] You're up for that.

[206] All the time.

[207] All the time.

[208] Then it starts raining from the ceiling.

[209] What the fuck?

[210] Vegas doesn't have rules, right?

[211] No. That's the whole thing.

[212] Yeah.

[213] No rules.

[214] When was the last time you were here?

[215] You were here when you saw Magic Mike.

[216] Oh, yeah, girl.

[217] I won't talk about the other casino that shows at, but oh, man. If you get a chance to watch it, it's the most romantic strip show you will ever see.

[218] much talent.

[219] What if we had told Stephen he could come, but he had to learn a magic mic like choreograph thing?

[220] And then he just went like this for half an hour.

[221] With his hat.

[222] They can't.

[223] No, we love him.

[224] We love him.

[225] My cats tolerate him.

[226] I swear, there's a bit, he put like a what do they call, what are the kids call them?

[227] Insta story?

[228] Insta story, for sure.

[229] Him yelling, Elvis, Elvis, Elvis!

[230] Elvis!

[231] And my cat, well, I swear to God, my cat, Elvis is just like, walking by him.

[232] Disdain in a cat's walk.

[233] Have you ever seen that?

[234] It's magical.

[235] Fuck you, dad.

[236] Oh, I would like to quickly apologize for my hair.

[237] What's happening can't be explained except for that.

[238] I think you guys had a weather system come in while I was trying to straighten it real nice.

[239] And then other things started happening and it was just like, it just kept kind of like going out.

[240] It was like a Tesla coil.

[241] The ecstasy just hit, and he was like, I'm going to say this in a normal voice.

[242] It won't be that loud at all.

[243] It won't be jarring at all.

[244] It'll be smooth and cool.

[245] It's what she wants to hear while she's talking.

[246] Thank you.

[247] This is a true crime comedy and hair tutorial podcast.

[248] It doesn't look great It looks like The first time I used a curling iron When I was 13 And my sister wouldn't show me how to use it So I kept turning it the wrong direction It would do like the kink and then fall And I kept But see I brought a travel straightener Oh no So the actual like ironing Like the face of the straightening iron is the size of like a coffee stirr so I'm like trying to and I'm like just bending my hair to the left and right is what I did I just like went in it's going to get good I went in anyway when I opened the door George and went hi and that's when you know you have that hair is when your friends greet you in a way that they never have before I have no comment No, I love it's good.

[249] It's very like, um, you look like Sigourney Weaver and Ghostbusters.

[250] Fuck, yeah.

[251] Boom, boom, boom.

[252] But like, in the Zool part.

[253] Yeah, which is the good part.

[254] Yeah, not when she was some dumb working lady.

[255] Boring.

[256] No. There is no Karen, only Zool.

[257] Um, before.

[258] I'm the gatekeeper.

[259] But, you're the key master.

[260] I'm the key master.

[261] You're the key master.

[262] Okay.

[263] Got it.

[264] Um, before we sit down.

[265] Yes.

[266] I'll tell you about murder.

[267] We have a photo to show you guys.

[268] Oh, yeah.

[269] There's something exciting that happened today.

[270] You may have seen it on your TVs, but we had Stephen put together.

[271] Can you put that first picture up?

[272] Look.

[273] Oh, are you in chat?

[274] Out us.

[275] And always.

[276] Insane.

[277] You know the best, I mean, Stephen pulled pictures where people were holding up signs of shit that we've said, which is very self -serving.

[278] But there were tons of amazing ones.

[279] Yeah.

[280] My favorite is just this lady that was holding a sign that said TikTok, motherfucker.

[281] I'll take a moment to say and I think this is important to be clarified that there is a world of difference between masculinity and toxic masculinity and I don't want you know when people see that sign I had a friend of mine who let me know that he was very upset about toxic masculinity and he was kind of going on about it how accused he felt and all that And I was like, you do realize I was, I used that to describe John Wayne Gacy's dad, right?

[282] It was a very specific reference.

[283] You're not talking about fucking comedians who were a graphic artist during the day, whatever he was.

[284] You're talking about John Wayne Gacy's dad.

[285] Yes, exactly.

[286] This isn't just like someone who's rude to you in the cafe.

[287] He made a serial killer with his fucking hands and beer.

[288] But we're really stoked.

[289] We couldn't be marching today because we had to fly here, which is awesome.

[290] So it was really cool to see all that.

[291] And yay.

[292] Yes, it was very exciting.

[293] Hey, this is exciting.

[294] An all -new season of only murders in the building is coming to Hulu on August 27th.

[295] Steve Martin, Martin Short, and Selena Gomez are back as your favorite podcaster, detectives.

[296] But there's a mystery hanging over everyone.

[297] Who killed Saz?

[298] And were they really after Charles?

[299] Why would someone want to kill Charles?

[300] This season, murder hits close to home.

[301] With a threat against one of their own, the stakes are higher than ever.

[302] Plus, the gang is going to Hollywood to turn their podcast into a major movie.

[303] Amid the glitz and glamour of Los Angeles, more mysteries and twists arise.

[304] Who knows what will happen once the cameras start to roll?

[305] Get ready for the stariest season yet with Merrill Streep, Zach Alfinacus, Eugene Levy, Eva Longoria, Melissa McCarthy, DeVey, DeVine, Joy Randolph, Molly Shannon, and more.

[306] Only murders in the building, premieres August 27th, streaming only on who.

[307] Hulu.

[308] Goodbye.

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[328] Goodbye.

[329] Should we sit down and talk about murder?

[330] Do you want to?

[331] I'd love to.

[332] Look at these.

[333] Vegas.

[334] Horrible things have happened on this chain.

[335] You can't see the stains I can see.

[336] Oh, no. Stop us.

[337] Well, after tonight, they're going to be.

[338] gonna burn them after we get through.

[339] Is this you?

[340] Yes.

[341] Yeah, that's mine.

[342] These are yours.

[343] Mm -hmm.

[344] Oh, do you want to put a piece of tape down the center of the table?

[345] This is mine.

[346] Get your fucking thing away from me. Well, then that's mine.

[347] Someone released, we saw us on the plane when we were boarding and she goes, oh, you guys travel together.

[348] What if we fucking hated each other?

[349] We're like, we don't travel together.

[350] Right?

[351] as we come around the corner, I'm like, well, you can just shut your fucking up.

[352] Oh, hi.

[353] She made me walk three pace, like three people ahead of her.

[354] Wouldn't speak to me. When we arrived at the hotel, there was somebody that was going to come to this show that was also outside.

[355] She was going to go on the plane.

[356] Same girl?

[357] Same girl.

[358] Doubled up.

[359] Just got weird.

[360] Sorry.

[361] No. Well, you were talking on the phone because...

[362] I just wanted to explain to her.

[363] Yeah.

[364] I would have said hi, but I was on the horn.

[365] like a Hollywood Big Shot, except for I was talking to my neighbor, you can't yell at me. Why didn't you learn from this man?

[366] I mean, her, right?

[367] I know.

[368] My dog George, when I leave my house, when I take my suitcase with me, she knows I'm leaving for several days, and that's when she decides to climb the fence.

[369] like she's in a tough mudder competition.

[370] I'm not kidding.

[371] My side fence is eight feet tall.

[372] She's a fucking, what, elaborate?

[373] She's a lab hound.

[374] She's like a combo.

[375] So she's not like a little dog climbing at the fence.

[376] She's like, fucking arm, over, arms, up the fence.

[377] She had a big backpack on.

[378] Yeah.

[379] Threw that over the fence, threw her skateboard over the fence.

[380] Fucking jump the fence.

[381] Carabiners.

[382] Yeah.

[383] Out of here.

[384] But the reason I knew.

[385] No, because I rebuilt, this is kind of interesting.

[386] I rebuilt the other fence on the other side of my house because I thought she was getting out of that fence, had the whole thing rebuilt.

[387] Turns out, she's going on the other fence that's eight feet tall.

[388] And I was like, there's no way it's this fence.

[389] And my neighbor Rick, thank God, is a contractor.

[390] And he and I, I was like, do I need to fix this fence or that fence?

[391] He goes, it's got to be the other fence.

[392] Well, then he's standing in his driveway.

[393] No. And he sees George come up over the fence, flip herself into the hedge, roll down, and walk away.

[394] He witnessed it himself.

[395] What the fuck?

[396] He witnessed it.

[397] So then...

[398] I couldn't do that.

[399] I just leave.

[400] I can't get in.

[401] No, and that's like an extra, what, three inches or three feet for us?

[402] Yes.

[403] Right?

[404] Yeah.

[405] We're much taller than her.

[406] But so when Rick saw her do that, he came over and he goes, I've got a thing.

[407] I'll fix it for you.

[408] to rebuild a second fence.

[409] So he came over and leaned this piece of taller fence, but it was like from a work site or whatever.

[410] He leaned it up and then he put some cement on it.

[411] Well, today, while I was on the phone, it was my other neighbor.

[412] She got out again.

[413] She fucking double climbed like she's trying to get into the fucking FBI.

[414] She double climbed and got out.

[415] Amazing.

[416] Amazing.

[417] She's supposed to be a service dog, I think.

[418] Either that or my dog sitter is beating her with a chain while I'm gone.

[419] I feel so bad.

[420] No, it's funny.

[421] She would never do that.

[422] She likes dogs more than people.

[423] I feel bad for Frank, your other dog, who's left behind, because she's like, tiny.

[424] She's just like, well, fuck.

[425] Frank couldn't get over anything because his legs are this tall.

[426] You know, he was like scrabbling after trying to be like, I'll come next.

[427] George is like, come on, after me. And Frank's like, oh, I got it.

[428] No. Can you open?

[429] Wait, sorry.

[430] I just had a recovered memory.

[431] It's one of my favorite things I've ever witnessed.

[432] Okay.

[433] I was at a party in San Francisco in the 90s.

[434] Represent.

[435] And it was this big, weird house party.

[436] We didn't know the people whose house it was, so we were just like in the backyard.

[437] Crazy?

[438] No. I just saw a look past through your eyes.

[439] I was looking at you.

[440] to think, I was just wondering how close up that fucking camera was right now.

[441] I was trying to look past her head to be like, how horrible.

[442] Just, I'm like Charlie Brown's teacher right now, you're just not hearing a word, I'm saying.

[443] So, sorry.

[444] No, no, we're standing in the backyard of this huge Victorian house, this huge house party with kegs everywhere, right?

[445] And we're standing right next to the fence.

[446] And this is like a 12 -foot fence, wooden fence.

[447] And at one point, like, we're all just standing around like, this is a weird party.

[448] we don't know anyone, should we leave, and then someone runs out onto the back porch and goes, the cops are here!

[449] And a bunch of people, like, run, and these two girls that were standing right next to us like throw their drinks and jump and fucking, like, throw themselves up over this fence.

[450] Like, they jump, they grab it, they pull themselves and they scribble, scrabble with their legs and their feet, and they push themselves over.

[451] You hear one land.

[452] It's like sidewalk on the other side.

[453] You hear the other one land and then this dude of course classically walks up baked out of his mind and he walks up and there's a fucking latch who just opens classic that guy is still talking about that story that was his like best moment of his life which is fair if you're that guy and you can hear me right now please call me I would love to laugh about that again I told people that story so many times that people are always like oh that's nice And I'm like, you don't understand how hilarious it is.

[454] You're dressed up for a party.

[455] It would be me like this, like, yeah, so anyway.

[456] And you're, like, trying to be cute at a party.

[457] And then you're just fucking throw yourself over a fence.

[458] Like, did they have warrants out for their arrest or something?

[459] It would have been great if then he opened the fence, and on the other side they're getting arrested.

[460] The girls are getting arrested by the cops, too, like, hauled away.

[461] And there's just pounds of cocaine at their feet.

[462] Yeah.

[463] Why would you bring that much cocaine?

[464] Yeah.

[465] Just a little bit.

[466] Well, then it would be even more impressive that they hold.

[467] hold the cocaine over the fence along with our entire bodies.

[468] Anyways, listen, we could keep doing this for fucking all day.

[469] I want to.

[470] Just speculate about these two girls.

[471] Are you first?

[472] I am first.

[473] Okay.

[474] Thank you so much.

[475] Wait, hold on.

[476] Don't take that photo yet.

[477] I'm blowing my nose.

[478] No, no. Yeah.

[479] Same?

[480] Yeah.

[481] Because it's the same spot.

[482] We're like, nothing's changed.

[483] Giving the thumbs up doesn't matter.

[484] But did you see fucking our awesome security guard over here?

[485] be like, come at me. Don't be afraid to tackle her next time.

[486] She wants you to.

[487] She fucking mooseyed over like, I got this no matter what happens.

[488] That was awesome.

[489] What if my butler came and attacked you?

[490] I would definitely come back here.

[491] There is no butler.

[492] You guys, how do we tell her?

[493] There's no butler.

[494] Well, there hasn't been a butler around here for 25 eagles.

[495] I don't know what that accent is anymore.

[496] Thank you.

[497] What's the best about that is 25 years ago.

[498] It would have been like 1990.

[499] Why are they talking like that?

[500] In the great butler murder rampage of 1990, I don't know, what was it, three?

[501] Okay, go.

[502] So, here's the thing that I think both of us have started doing, especially when we're on the road because we have to write.

[503] It's like book report race, where we have to write like six murders.

[504] The great book report is our new TV show that we're pitching and nobody likes it.

[505] Nobody wants to watch it.

[506] Everyone's super stressed out about it.

[507] It's just us in our hotel rooms and our fucking robes, typing and Vince going, are you done with your story yet?

[508] I need your story.

[509] And meanwhile in the background, for some reason, the beginning of 60 minutes is playing.

[510] That's how I was new that my booker, like I had to finish that book report.

[511] Sunday night, 7 .30, you better finish your fucking homework.

[512] Okay.

[513] So in the middle of the murder I had, I was like, wait a second.

[514] I want to do Sigfied and Roy.

[515] Oh.

[516] They weren't murder?

[517] Are you changing the rules of this podcast?

[518] I seriously thought I was such a fucking genius for like four minutes.

[519] I was like, I'm going to fucking, I can't imagine when I say I'm doing sick, free, and worry what they're going to say.

[520] It's good.

[521] I'm, you know.

[522] It was, he was, hold on, it was Roy.

[523] No, I didn't.

[524] I just wrote down a couple factoids.

[525] Okay.

[526] Roy was bitten on the neck by Montecor, the White Tiger.

[527] Monty.

[528] And as he was being pulled away and taken to the University Medical Center, uh -uh.

[529] Right?

[530] Local references, gets them every time.

[531] I think they all work there to nurses.

[532] The whole hospital's empty right now?

[533] Shit, let's go rob the hospital.

[534] Rob a hospital.

[535] Just pills and then those weird water pitchers with the matching cup.

[536] I'd take like four of those.

[537] I don't know why.

[538] Um, okay.

[539] As Roy was getting loaded into the emergency room, the tiger bit his neck.

[540] No, wait, again?

[541] No, I'm saying.

[542] Oh.

[543] Got away from him.

[544] Roy said, down, down, tiger.

[545] Okay.

[546] Oh, he did?

[547] What is wrong with me?

[548] Oh, I fall for everything, because I stand for everything.

[549] Isn't that how it goes?

[550] I think that's the saying, yeah.

[551] Okay.

[552] I just wanted to get this great quote out.

[553] I found on Wikipedia.

[554] Okay.

[555] Because Roy said to everybody, as he was being wheeled away, Montecore is a great cat.

[556] Make sure no harm comes to Montecor.

[557] Roy was like, yeah, we've been waiting for this?

[558] It's not the fucking cats' fault.

[559] Okay.

[560] Everybody lived, and they retired seven years later.

[561] It was not that big of a deal.

[562] Including the tiger lived?

[563] The tiger lived, too.

[564] Oh, good, okay.

[565] No harm came to Montecore.

[566] It's pretty amazing.

[567] These are going to be my last words I hope I remember It's going to be so funny You better be there So I can be like What was that thing I was going to say?

[568] Something about Montaguez Noah And that's how I die No, Georgia And then I'll think That's what she really wanted It's just to yell at someone I know what she wants I knew how she really wanted to go I knew her better than she knew her so Sadly true So, actually, I'm going to do, for real, the murder of Gerard Souls, the Poodle King.

[569] What?

[570] There's a Poodle King?

[571] There is a Poodle King.

[572] And he worked right here in this great city of Las Vegas at the gorgeous and historic circus to circus casino.

[573] Been there.

[574] Have you been there?

[575] I have been on mushrooms there.

[576] That sounds like a fucking nightmare.

[577] Don't do it.

[578] It was a bad idea It was a bad 90s idea We were all wearing chokers We're like, this will be funny Oh, I was positive for so long That I was going to remain For the rest of my days In front of that carousel Oh yeah It felt like we were there for nine hours I was like God I want to leave the carousel area But everyone else seemed to like it But I was like I'm having a nervous breakdown Oh, my God.

[579] And then just went from there, every single place you turned.

[580] It was just like, oh, no, someone's flying.

[581] Oh, no, they're smoking.

[582] Like, it just...

[583] I went there when I was nine on mushrooms.

[584] Oh.

[585] And I had the same freak out.

[586] I was there when I was a kid.

[587] Why did my dad take us there?

[588] That's not fun for children.

[589] I don't understand.

[590] Was it Halloween?

[591] No. He wasn't trying to scare you?

[592] No. Oh, okay.

[593] I just remember there were so many of us and we had no money so there was like eight of us sleeping in a room with two beds and I slept on the floor Red Shag Carpening Circus Circus Ew, what'd you pick up from there?

[594] Closing time Time for me to go home Okay The entire source of the story I'm about to tell you is from one Vanity Fair article written by a woman named Megan Rose.

[595] And actually, she wrote this article so good that it ended up changing the verdict.

[596] What?

[597] Let's get into it, shall we?

[598] It's very, very fun.

[599] I was going to read you the title of this article, but it is a complete spoiler title.

[600] It basically tells you all the good stuff, right?

[601] Don't do it.

[602] So, okay, so on June, June 4th, 1992, when Gerard Jerry Souls doesn't show up at Circus Circus Casino for work, which is very unlike him, his boss goes to the RV park where he lives to investigate.

[603] Don't judge.

[604] Yeah.

[605] They're really nice inside.

[606] I know.

[607] I'm not kidding.

[608] My cousin lives in one, and you would never know that you were in a double wide.

[609] It's kind of my dream home.

[610] They're pretty cool.

[611] Yeah.

[612] And then very manageable.

[613] Not like this gorgeous palatial apartment I have upstairs tonight.

[614] That was too many messages in one.

[615] Okay.

[616] So when he knocks on the door, he can hear Jerry's poodles barking like crazy and he knows something's wrong because they're normally very well -behaved dogs.

[617] They don't bark.

[618] So he calls the Park Security Guard and they call the cops.

[619] And inside the trailer they find Jerry's Soul's belonging, scattered everywhere.

[620] The window shade's been pulled off the window.

[621] TVVCR cabinets empty.

[622] There's a blood -soaked mattress and a trail of blood leading back toward the bathroom.

[623] And they're in the bathroom.

[624] There's blood splattered everywhere.

[625] It's just insane.

[626] And Jerry Souls is laying naked with his throat slashed.

[627] He's been stabbed so many times that the coroner stopped counting at 35.

[628] But they believe it's over 100.

[629] Oh, my.

[630] God.

[631] And somebody put an orange towel on his face.

[632] He was 55 years old.

[633] So we'll tell you a little bit about Jerry Sol.

[634] So he was born 1935 in Canada, but he moved to Michigan in his childhood, and he grew up outside Detroit.

[635] And when he was a teenager, he grew up in a very devout Catholic family, but he still came out to his mom when he was a teenager, and his family totally supported him.

[636] Nice.

[637] Yeah.

[638] I thought in 195, holy fucking shit.

[639] So but his it was his lifelong dream since he was like 12 years old, he wanted to be in the circus.

[640] So when he wanted to be on the trapeze.

[641] So when he was 16, he left home to join the circus.

[642] And this is, so basically this is, I found as Stephen found his obituary it was insanely long this is the bridged version it was written by a woman named Helene Weaver and she says Gerard Solz who has been murdered at Las Vegas, Nevada was one of America's leading circus performers first as a trapeze artist and she spelled it Artiste and later with his celebrated dog troop poodles D. Perry Wait were they all on a trapeze together?

[643] No no no no fuck I got so excited you know do that shit like up until the like 90s right?

[644] No I think yeah they do but not that's the high wire oh the trapeze would be you lock a dog's legs onto me that's worse it'd be amazing he like throws the dog to be fucking incredible only cats could do that I am a poodle I am a poodle I just can't stop picturing I know it's a pretty good visual okay oh I think we do have some pictures Oh, am I in charge?

[645] Yeah.

[646] Check this shit out.

[647] Yeah.

[648] So he got famous because he could do this trick where he would go off the, like he would launch off the trapeze.

[649] I don't know the terminology.

[650] And then he would do a forward somersault and catch himself by his, he, by his, like, ankles on the trapeze.

[651] Like, d -da -da -da, and then be fine.

[652] That's amazing.

[653] Wearing like a cape.

[654] He looks incredible.

[655] Look at him.

[656] Living his best life.

[657] He was fucking doing it.

[658] So his heel -catching work as an aerialist was sensational, and together with his cool arrogance and electrifying personality, more than justified his billing as the star of stars on the high trapeze.

[659] So I guess he was like the fucking...

[660] I don't know why.

[661] I was going to say the Tom Cruise of the Trapecies.

[662] Uh -huh.

[663] I get it.

[664] I get it.

[665] My favorite star.

[666] So in his life, he had a number of falls, usually only in rehearsal, but in Belgium in early 1964, after a near fatal accident in front of a paying audience, he retired from the trapeze.

[667] He was next scene in the Clyde Beattie -Colex Brothers Circus in America.

[668] You know your favorite circus.

[669] The famous one.

[670] Clyde Beattie Colex.

[671] It was out by the nuclear power plant.

[672] For that circus, he did a plate spinning act.

[673] His career spanned four decades.

[674] He worked in everything from small shows to the Barnum Bailey Circus, the greatest show on Earth.

[675] By 1956, he was a center ring attraction with Clyde's big tenting circus.

[676] And four years later, he joined Ringling Brothers and Barnum and Bailey, in which he featured, he was a featured attraction until 1963.

[677] when he was sent to Moscow to appear in an American circus.

[678] He was an admirer of a British dog trainer named Victor Julian, and that's how he got his idea when he was doing the plate spinning.

[679] He was like, this sucks.

[680] So he remembered this dog trainer that he loved, this British dog trainer, so then he decided he was going to have a dog act.

[681] And so that's when he came up with Poodles de Perry, and he made all the calls.

[682] costumes for himself and for the dogs.

[683] Oh no, tell me. Is it happening?

[684] Can you believe you've never heard of Jerry's souls?

[685] I mean, and the poodles de Perry.

[686] I love that Stephen wrote.

[687] With poodles.

[688] With the shit.

[689] Thanks, Stephen.

[690] Look at them.

[691] I mean.

[692] With poodles and feathers.

[693] So basically, he gets a job at Circus Circus in 1992.

[694] And the height of Circus is great something.

[695] Hold it.

[696] No, that would be too early for me on my drug trip.

[697] I'd be amazing.

[698] I'm like, wait a second, I saw this.

[699] But basically on the second floor at Circus Circus, there's a stage and all day long until midnight they have circus acts performing for free.

[700] So they just have act after act and Jerry was like the hit of the show and people would on their way to in this article she says as they move along past to the 299 buffet that's what she is kind of you know it's a little elitist so his show featured 14 Pete Poodles hopping on their hind legs across the stage one would wear a poncho and a sombrero another had her dress attached to her front paws so that when she stood up, she did the Mulan Rouge can -can.

[701] Oh, he was sexualizing a total.

[702] I hope it was a girl.

[703] There was ones wearing three -foot -tall hats, giant hoop skirts, and then Jerry himself wore sequin tails matching bowtie, and all hand -stitched himself, as we said.

[704] So the problem was in his personal life, Jerry was having a really hard time.

[705] 55, his partner of decades had died a couple years before, and he, all the other performers, most of them lived in the casino's own RV park.

[706] That's kind of a common thing, I guess, here.

[707] But they wouldn't let him stay in their RV park, the Circus, Circus RV park, with the poodles.

[708] So he got banished to the Silver Nugget Camper Land, which we all know.

[709] Oh, less desirable.

[710] This is coming off.

[711] Oh, what's happening?

[712] I don't know.

[713] So is this my part of the table now?

[714] And that's your part?

[715] That's all you get.

[716] Gravity.

[717] Watch me. I'm going to yank this really fast.

[718] Okay, there we go.

[719] Everyone's good.

[720] Magic.

[721] Okay.

[722] So, the thing that Jerry started doing was he was, to make himself feel better, he would help other people.

[723] So if he saw people panhandling, and usually it was men, because he was lonely for male company.

[724] So he would give them money, ask them if they wanted to go to dinner, basically kind of try to help out.

[725] And that's how he meant a man named Fred Steeze.

[726] So basically Fred, he saw Fred was holding a will work for food sign.

[727] He was driving by in his truck.

[728] He said, I'll take you to dinner if you want.

[729] want to go to dinner with me. Fred's like sounds great.

[730] At dinner, you know, Jerry said, I'm a gay man. I'm, you know, like I'm, you know, interested in hanging out.

[731] Fred's like, sounds good to me. I like to hang out too.

[732] And then Fred was like, well, here's an interesting thing if you really do need work.

[733] I just fired my assistant.

[734] Apparently he had, he had an assistant that couldn't do the job.

[735] I don't, it wasn't in the article, so I don't know.

[736] I bet there's a lot of dog poop picking up in the said job.

[737] Poodle poop.

[738] Poodle poop.

[739] Diva poop.

[740] So, Jerry offered him the job, and he was like, that'd be amazing.

[741] It would help me so much.

[742] So they start working together, and then they actually start to have a relationship.

[743] So he trains him to be his assistant and learns the whole dog act.

[744] But then when they're ready to work at Circus Circus, like the HR department came and it was like, you need a work permit to be able to.

[745] work here and be Jerry's assistant.

[746] Well, Fred tells Jerry I'm actually living under an assumed name because I'm on the run.

[747] I'm in parole violation in Florida for what they called a hapless bank robbery, which I'd love to know.

[748] There's no details about it in the article.

[749] That's embarrassing.

[750] You know, you're just kind of a shitty bank robber.

[751] Like he walked in with a bag with dollar signs on it and then tripped and chipped his tooth.

[752] Started crying.

[753] So basically he says He says to Jerry I'm not going to be able to get a work permit And this isn't going to work out Thanks for everything You know, see later And then in the article it says Then he panhandled enough money For liquor and a speedball And hopped on a train How did they have that detail?

[754] It's just a fucking dream vacation So Fred Stee's had a really hard life himself He was abandoned by his mother when he was 10 he was in 37 different foster homes.

[755] Yeah, as a teen, he wandered into a hobo camp outside Phoenix, where an old -timer introduced him to riding the rails.

[756] So then he started doing that.

[757] And so, oh, we have a picture.

[758] This is, oh, that's everybody that's on the second floor that would do the second floor show at Circus, Circus.

[759] Look at child labor.

[760] See those kids?

[761] Tap dance.

[762] Janine, do it.

[763] Again.

[764] Again.

[765] And then those girls on the top, that's all they did is put one hand up.

[766] But they were really good.

[767] Man, look at those flat.

[768] Okay, don't.

[769] Oh, sorry.

[770] No, I don't even, I could just stare at that forever.

[771] I'm on mushrooms.

[772] I just want to stare at that.

[773] What?

[774] Yeah.

[775] You should have told me. Oh, no. So that's the hapless bank robber, Fred Stees.

[776] Okay.

[777] Um, okay.

[778] This is stressful to me. me. Okay.

[779] Do you want me to do it?

[780] Sure.

[781] Do you want to?

[782] Yeah.

[783] Okay.

[784] I'm going to yell photo when the photo.

[785] Okay.

[786] Now you're going to be stressed out.

[787] Okay.

[788] Okay.

[789] Okay.

[790] So then six days later, after Fred jumped the train, it was six days later that Jerry did show up for work at Circus Circus and his boss came and they found his body.

[791] So how many days, six?

[792] Six days.

[793] Oh, that's not a lot.

[794] It's not a lot.

[795] And when the detectives are investigating the crime scene, they find a letter that's from, it's sent to Fred Stee's, but it's at Jerry's address, and it's from the last guy that Fred had hitchhiked with and then eventually started a relationship with.

[796] And so that's how they, that's how they started to pinpoint that he was there.

[797] They called this guy, and that guy told the police that Fred had told them that the guy he lived with had been stuck, like a hundred times and so the second the police heard that he knew that bit of information they were like he did it we just have to go get him yeah um so uh they call fred stees they tell him he has to come back to Vegas so Fred's way of coming back to Vegas he's super drunk he jumps on a train going the wrong direction he ends up in Wisconsin oh that's Mount Vegas so when he gets there he realizes what he did so he steals a semi -truck, and he drives 30 hours straight through back to Vegas, and when he hits town, he immediately gets pulled over and arrested.

[798] Hmm, I mean, you know, he got from point A to point B. He, well, point A to point D. Right.

[799] Then.

[800] Visa V, B and C. Okay, so he tells them he has nothing to do with Jerry Sol's murder, that he would have never hurt him, that he really liked him, he considered him a close friend, and that he had been in New Plymouth, Idaho the whole time.

[801] But Fred basically, he would deny it just outright, and then the cops were getting angrier and yelling at him.

[802] The interrogation lasted five hours, and he changed his story.

[803] At first he said he had nothing to do with it.

[804] Then he claimed that Fred sexually attempted to tie him up and sexually assault him with The plunger, the police are like, they showed him the layout of the trailer, and they're like, it's physically impossible what you're saying he did.

[805] There's no room for that.

[806] Then he changes story again.

[807] Literally, it was aerodynamically impossible.

[808] So he changes his story again.

[809] He ends up changing it six times.

[810] But in the end, he just says he decided to rob Jerry last minute.

[811] And then Jerry woke up, and so he killed him.

[812] And that's the story he gives the cops.

[813] And so Fred Steece is arrested for the murder of Jerry Souls.

[814] So two years later, by the time the case gets to trial, Fred Stee's defense team, they've put together an extensive alibi.

[815] There's 14 witnesses, 10 items of documentary evidence, proving that Stice was nowhere near Souls trailer at the time of the murder.

[816] but at the time an ambitious young prosecution lawyer named William Keppert was assigned to the case and he knows that Stice did it so he wants to pull that alibi apart so he goes to Idaho and he finds witnesses who say that Stice used to use the alias Robert and that they heard him talking about having a brother so they find out that Fred Stice has a lookalike brother named Robert who lives in Texas.

[817] Yes, it's real.

[818] What the fuck?

[819] So they put it together, they come up with this theory.

[820] So here's the theory.

[821] Steece, it wasn't Fred Steece in Idaho, it was Robert, and it was all a plan to create this alibi, and the witnesses who thought they met Fred in Wyoming and Idaho, the two places he was seen, actually met his brother Robert.

[822] And the real Fred ran to Idaho after the murder and then met his brother there.

[823] But the only problem with this theory is that there was no evidence that proves that Robert Steece had been in Idaho.

[824] And it directly conflicted with the actual established timeline.

[825] And most importantly, it contradicted Stee's signed confession that it was this last -minute drunken decision to rob and then murder Jerry Solz.

[826] Since it could be proved that Fred Steece was in Wyoming on May 31st, that would mean that Steece would have had to set the alibi plan into motion three full days before that spur of the moment attack.

[827] But this theory presented to the court, plus the signed confession, was enough to get him convicted of murder and sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole.

[828] You might want to hold that.

[829] He spends 20 years in jail.

[830] Oh, that's a long time.

[831] And this whole time, his original defense attorney, a woman named Nancy Lemke, is fighting to get his case reviewed.

[832] She's sending it everywhere she can, like somebody has to do something.

[833] This guy didn't do it.

[834] And when they finally do get the case reviewed, they find evidence in the files that Fred Steece's name had been run through the system by Texas authorities on May 20, June 1st and June 4th, which that means it's usually when people are stopped by the police is when your name gets run, which would mean that Robert Steece was in Texas at the time of the prosecution at the time the prosecution argued he was impersonating his brother in Idaho.

[835] I'm sorry, they find evidence Robert Stice's name.

[836] Shit, it's confusing enough.

[837] But essentially, the lookalike brother is proven to be, in Texas at the time that he's supposedly being seen in Idaho and Wyoming.

[838] So they find this piece of information and the fact that it was suppressed by the prosecution.

[839] So they didn't tell anybody.

[840] So then they go talk to Robert, Fred's brother, and he tells the court under oath he hadn't seen Fred since he was nine years old.

[841] He had never been to Idaho or Wyoming.

[842] He didn't even know what Fred's birthday was or if he was still alive.

[843] So he had no contact or connection with his brother whatsoever.

[844] That's weird.

[845] So, in October of 2012, after 20 years in prison, a judge declares that Steece was innocent.

[846] They go back through all of the, everything, and there was nothing that put him in that mobile home at the time of the murder.

[847] Oh, my God.

[848] Yeah.

[849] So, but they wouldn't be, because he had already been, found guilty and gone to jail they wouldn't they wouldn't retry him they I mean they wouldn't just say that he was innocent they wouldn't just let him go they made him sign the Alford plea which is the thing that says that you're convicted but you say you're innocent and then you can get out of jail and that way nobody you're not allowed to sue and none of the people who withheld evidence or were tricky in any way get in trouble.

[850] That's fucked up.

[851] So, uh, I think I'm drinking your water.

[852] Anyways.

[853] Well, I guess I quit.

[854] Sorry, yeah.

[855] Okay, so basically then, and so he, but Fred Steece is in jail.

[856] He's like, I'll sign the fucking Alfred play.

[857] Get me out of here.

[858] I'm good with it.

[859] So he does it.

[860] He gets out of jail.

[861] But, of course, he can't get a job everywhere he goes.

[862] He's a convicted felon.

[863] So that's when our friend, Megan, Rose, wrote this article for Van B. Fair.

[864] And then in November of 2017, the Nevada Board of Pardons and Commissions granted Fred a full pardon delivering a clear rebuke to the Las Vegas prosecutors who refused to recognize his innocence.

[865] And Nevada Supreme Court Justice Lydia Stiglitch said, let there be no. residual stain on his record.

[866] But a sad footnote to this, Jerry Sol's sister, Kathy Nurse Nasry, who was so angry at Fred Stee's, during the entire court case, went to him and wept and asked for his forgiveness and said she was so sorry.

[867] She has a whole shrine in her house, because she still lives back in Detroit, of all of her brother's amazing accomplishments in the circus and being this insane, amazing trapeze artists and dog trainer and, you know, incredible entertainer for years and years.

[868] And she also still has his silver ring.

[869] And in this article it says it's stained with blood and she wonders if the killer's DNA is on it and if anyone cares.

[870] Oh, man. And that's the unsolved supposedly murder of Jared Souls.

[871] It's kind of fun, kind of depressing.

[872] Fuck, that's crazy.

[873] How have we never heard of that?

[874] Okay, I'm going to listen.

[875] Okay.

[876] Okay, now I'm going to get comfortable.

[877] You get comfortable.

[878] You take the tablecloth.

[879] I don't think that.

[880] Oh, that's him.

[881] That's Fred's T's dead.

[882] We got out of jail.

[883] Okay.

[884] Take the ceremonial tablecloth.

[885] Okay.

[886] I am going to tell you about a murder.

[887] Okay.

[888] Sounds good.

[889] We love true crime.

[890] This is the murder of Ted Binion.

[891] So Stephen will send us like, here's a list of ideas of murders you can do and send us each separate ones.

[892] And I had already found this one that I wanted to do.

[893] And I was like, can I do this one?

[894] He's like, I send it to Karen.

[895] What do I do?

[896] And I'm like, tell her she can't fucking have it.

[897] Did he email you?

[898] Soon we're only going to be talking through Stephen.

[899] Well, tell her, I said, maybe I want it.

[900] No, I still hadn't even looked at his email when he texted me. He's like, um, so Binions is out, okay?

[901] I was like, I don't know what you're talking about.

[902] Please don't bother me at home, Steve.

[903] He climbs your gate and he's like, hey, I just want to let you know.

[904] He climbs the gate from the outside.

[905] George climbs from the inside.

[906] They Snapchat each other's faces.

[907] Is Snapchat still I don't think so.

[908] I don't think so either.

[909] I think it imploded.

[910] Oh, okay.

[911] So, where was I?

[912] So this story is so convoluted and insane and weird that I, like, my brain doesn't wrap around it and to me I'm like, I don't really know exactly what happened, so you'll have to tell me what you think.

[913] Oh, I'll tell you.

[914] I'll tell you.

[915] Okay, I'm counting.

[916] on it.

[917] Okay.

[918] All right.

[919] So Benny Binion was a gambling icon and kind of a mob dude who lived in Dallas and he fled from the Texas government to Las Vegas to open the horseshoe casino in downtown Las Vegas in 1951.

[920] Yeah.

[921] I have lost a lot of money at that exact casino.

[922] I would love to steal an ashtray from the horseshoe casino.

[923] I bet they have a horseshoe on them.

[924] Yeah.

[925] Do you like horseshoes?

[926] I just like old ashtrays.

[927] Is it because you're a Clydesdale and a smoker?

[928] A lot of Clydesdale's are really bad smokers.

[929] All of us.

[930] So many of us.

[931] It is my, like, when we stay downtown, that's where we go to gamble.

[932] They have a fucking Buffalo machine.

[933] If you guys see one here, go play it.

[934] Buffalo.

[935] It's my favorite.

[936] Georgia loves Buffalo.

[937] I'm a real, I'm a real, I'm a real, uh, sucker for Willy Wonka.

[938] I just want to watch a movie and give my money away.

[939] And Willie Wonka helps me do that.

[940] Okay, so here's what Benny Binion looks like.

[941] Fucking, what's up?

[942] Yeah.

[943] Is that a buffalo?

[944] He is a fucking old -timer.

[945] You know you wanted to drink with him, right?

[946] I just, my heart is singing right now.

[947] He parties.

[948] Yeah, yeah, totally parties.

[949] He's the guy, he does cigarette and drink in one hand.

[950] Oh, that's good.

[951] It's all this.

[952] He can do it.

[953] It's all individually.

[954] He chews on a cigar, makes it all wet, gross.

[955] Toothpits.

[956] Maybe just keeps a tiny, like a smaller than normal piece of gum right in the front.

[957] Counts money.

[958] He counts money while looking around and smiling at people.

[959] He licks his finger while he's counting money, but he doesn't get sick.

[960] That's like magic to me. No money can make.

[961] make Benny Binion sick.

[962] No. Never has.

[963] Proven fact.

[964] Okay.

[965] I love you.

[966] Okay, so he comes here to escape from those guys in Dallas.

[967] He, it's like one of the most profitable casinos.

[968] He totally changes the way fucking casinos work.

[969] He's like a total badass baller.

[970] Everyone loves him.

[971] He's like the dude.

[972] And he wears feather boas apparently, so fuck yes.

[973] But he was eventually convicted of tax.

[974] Tax evasion, long history, it's actually really interesting.

[975] He's a fucking fascinating dude.

[976] So he...

[977] You love tax law.

[978] No, I mean, he's interesting.

[979] This tax evasion court case is amazing.

[980] Oh, I read every piece of paper about it.

[981] He got the transcripts.

[982] So his sons take over the business of the horseshoe.

[983] His son, Ted, who's only 21 at the time, and his son, Jack, take over.

[984] Jack becomes president of the horseshoe.

[985] I guess he's kind of like a boring dude in the back of.

[986] you know, counting money without licking his finger.

[987] Yes, he has the green visor, he's got the Carter on his sleeve.

[988] Yes.

[989] He's from the 1850s.

[990] Right.

[991] Right.

[992] So they don't let him out on the floor.

[993] But Ted is like super cool.

[994] He becomes a casino manager.

[995] He's the face of the horseshoe.

[996] Ted's the 21 -year -old?

[997] Ted's the 21 -year -old.

[998] Sorry, it's like this late 50s, early 60s?

[999] You know, I couldn't tell.

[1000] I kept looking for dates, but none of them seemed right.

[1001] We're eventually going to get to the late 90s.

[1002] So just strike that question.

[1003] Bear with me. It's a valid fucking question that I had, too.

[1004] I'm just saying if you think about your YouTube stars of today, imagine if one of them had their own casino.

[1005] It would be bad.

[1006] That would be an asshole child.

[1007] Right.

[1008] Just picture it.

[1009] No, this guy, okay, so let me tell you about him.

[1010] You like him.

[1011] Yeah.

[1012] He's a good guy.

[1013] Okay.

[1014] Would I like him?

[1015] Yes.

[1016] So, he's basically a younger version of his fucking pimp -ass dad.

[1017] Oh.

[1018] Can I say pimp?

[1019] You did.

[1020] I know.

[1021] That's really not you.

[1022] I know.

[1023] I didn't know what to say.

[1024] That's Vegas, baby?

[1025] Let it out.

[1026] Okay.

[1027] Younger version.

[1028] Or at least he tried to be.

[1029] He basically grew up in the casino.

[1030] He learned the trade as a preteen from his father and some in like casino players.

[1031] He learned it all.

[1032] By the time he was 18, he had been in the casino business his whole life.

[1033] Someone said that Benny told me that Ted was the best in the business.

[1034] So he's like a businessman.

[1035] He dresses like his dad in boots and cowboy hat.

[1036] Tucks a pistol in his jeans.

[1037] What?

[1038] And he drove a pickup truck with his dog, Princess, riding shotgun.

[1039] Aww.

[1040] Yeah.

[1041] He drove it right into the casino.

[1042] He was always ready for fun.

[1043] He was super likable.

[1044] Also a junkie.

[1045] A junkie?

[1046] Yeah.

[1047] A gambling junkie?

[1048] No. A drug addict.

[1049] The word junkie is also a junkie.

[1050] problematic.

[1051] Okay.

[1052] He had moved from pot to opium to LSD and finally black tar heroin was his drug of choice.

[1053] But somehow he fucking ran this like huge crazy business.

[1054] Well yeah, I think he probably built up a tolerance.

[1055] Yeah.

[1056] So it all got real normal to him that he was like.

[1057] It's crazy.

[1058] I mean.

[1059] Black tar heroin.

[1060] Sorry.

[1061] I've had two cups of coffee and I can barely fucking read.

[1062] Like what?

[1063] For real.

[1064] I had two cups of coffee.

[1065] I'm sweating like a lunatic.

[1066] Me too.

[1067] Okay, good.

[1068] I thought it was...

[1069] It's the lights.

[1070] Okay.

[1071] So for the next 30 years, Ted's the face of the horseshoe becomes well known as the host of their famous poker tournaments.

[1072] He loved living the high life, partying, schmoozing with high -profile guests, and flirting with hot ladies.

[1073] One such lady, I can't remember what photo I put up next.

[1074] I don't remember.

[1075] Roll those dice.

[1076] Yeah.

[1077] What if it's just a funny meme?

[1078] One such woman was Sandy Murphy, aka the Irish Venus.

[1079] Oh, hello.

[1080] So they had met in 1995, well, she was working at Cheetahs.

[1081] Yes.

[1082] The exotic dancing place.

[1083] So wait, is Cheetah's like a chain like Ben -Agins?

[1084] I guess so.

[1085] I guess so.

[1086] Yeah, I didn't realize.

[1087] And it's topless, right?

[1088] I believe topless, yes.

[1089] At the very least.

[1090] Okay.

[1091] It's all tank tops and tube tops.

[1092] It's old -fashioned.

[1093] That's where Ted like to hang out and do his business and take his meetings and stuff.

[1094] Sure.

[1095] You know.

[1096] It's easier to concentrate there.

[1097] You do that too, right?

[1098] So Sandy is beautiful.

[1099] She's 28 years younger than Ted.

[1100] She had come to Las Vegas from Bellflower in Los Angeles.

[1101] You know that hub of sin.

[1102] Oh, the city?

[1103] Bellflower?

[1104] Oh, I thought Bellflower was another strip club that I was supposed to know about.

[1105] Is that a good one?

[1106] Are they all awesome?

[1107] Bellflower is all it's goth and mod.

[1108] Stripping.

[1109] It's hard to tell.

[1110] So, like, you can read stories about her that, you know, they make her to be this sexy sex queen.

[1111] It's like looking for money and then in her thing, she's like, I lost all my money and I needed money, so I'm hot and I went and worked to Cheetahs.

[1112] It's like, you know, you can't tell.

[1113] I mean, look.

[1114] Look, listen.

[1115] Listen, but I like when they list things like that, like they were after money.

[1116] Aren't we all fucking after money on the daily?

[1117] Yeah, yeah.

[1118] Please.

[1119] They make her, you know, it's like one of those things where like in the 48 hours on ID they show like probably like a pole dancing person from like the knees down.

[1120] You know, just to show you what the gritty seedy underlight, underbelly, Two weird dudes that are like, oh.

[1121] Yeah.

[1122] Like they've never seen legs before.

[1123] And it's like, ooh.

[1124] Legs.

[1125] This was, she was bad.

[1126] But it's like, you should just need it too many.

[1127] Let me all.

[1128] Okay.

[1129] This might be the photo, I think it is, which will make you laugh.

[1130] No, that's not it.

[1131] Okay.

[1132] That's Ted Vinyin.

[1133] That's the fucking black tar heroin addict?

[1134] Uh -huh.

[1135] Oh my God, I love him.

[1136] Apparently he was like a really, everyone loved him.

[1137] was a gregarious, you know, gregarious.

[1138] Friends.

[1139] You gave up halfway through on gregarious?

[1140] I was like, don't know what that's what that means.

[1141] He just doesn't look like anyone I ever did heroin with.

[1142] That's what's freaking me out.

[1143] Does he look like someone who would wear a fucking feather boa and a hat like his dad?

[1144] Well, that's who he was.

[1145] Okay.

[1146] Oh, sorry.

[1147] Got to take him away from you.

[1148] Okay.

[1149] Sandy, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[1150] Okay.

[1151] So, shortly after they met, right after Ted's wife and kid move out of his house, or their house, Sandy moves in with Ted, and she, like, starts racking up credit card bills, averaging with $5 ,500 is the number I saw.

[1152] Expensive jewelry, plastic surgery, European vacations, all paid for by Ted, which is like, well, he's got the money, let him pay for her shit.

[1153] Isn't, if he wants?

[1154] Isn't that what casinos are all about?

[1155] Yeah.

[1156] Okay.

[1157] Just like spending and wasting and stuff, smoking, heroin.

[1158] That's funny.

[1159] They both love to party all night, sleep all day, which who fucking doesn't?

[1160] And, okay, here's the photo that I think you're going to enjoy.

[1161] This is from They're Made for TV movie.

[1162] Oh.

[1163] Are you ready?

[1164] Who do you think she played her?

[1165] Well, if she's the Irish Venus, Irish Venus.

[1166] You're already on the wrong track.

[1167] Okay.

[1168] Because it's so Diane Carroll or what?

[1169] Mina Savari Matthew Modin Also totally addicted to black tar here Let's spread that rumor Yeah, I'm going to I'll tweet it out tonight So this is the kind of idea Let me tell you about this movie real quick This movie is called Sex and Lies and Sin City Let me read you a quick blur from it I'm sorry, that title is easily the laziest piece of writing I've ever heard.

[1170] No, no, no. The movie seems like the laziest piece of writing.

[1171] Someone wrote about it, shot in New Mexico for what looks like jackpots off penny slots.

[1172] The fact -based story, as depicted, isn't trashy enough to qualify as a guilty pleasure.

[1173] Oh!

[1174] That's the worst, when they're not bad enough to be fun.

[1175] Yeah.

[1176] Yeah.

[1177] Sorry, guys.

[1178] That's them.

[1179] Look, listen.

[1180] Everybody's good.

[1181] You've got to make those made for TV movies sometime.

[1182] Okay.

[1183] Maudine's laughing now with the stranger things, cash, stacking up.

[1184] According to Texas Monthly, our favorite news magazine in the world, the story by Gary Cartwright, according to all this shit, she was famous for her big mouth, and she called Ted Old and Ugly and told people openly that she was sticking around just for the money.

[1185] But other friends, the couple attested to seeing Sandy with bruises on her face and a clump of hair missing once.

[1186] And that she told a friend that Binion had beaten her.

[1187] Binion's gardener said she took a lot of crap from him.

[1188] Oh.

[1189] Man, on the gardener nose?

[1190] That guy's outside the house.

[1191] Not inside.

[1192] No. After one particularly big fight, Ted bought her a Mercedes worth $97 ,000.

[1193] What?

[1194] That's almost $100 ,000.

[1195] What kind of...

[1196] What does...

[1197] What the fuck?

[1198] Does it have a CD player or something?

[1199] I don't know.

[1200] What if it looks like our hotel room upstairs?

[1201] That's just the car that you drive?

[1202] In March 1998.

[1203] Finally, we have a date.

[1204] Okay, here we are.

[1205] We're in 1998.

[1206] Karen's living the high life.

[1207] Loving it.

[1208] I'm graduating high school.

[1209] 28.

[1210] On speed.

[1211] Freaking out.

[1212] Can't sleep.

[1213] Can't stop drinking.

[1214] Panicking, but pretending like I'm having a great.

[1215] time.

[1216] Plaid miniskirt, black combat boots, red.

[1217] I have a photo of it, right?

[1218] No, what if I did?

[1219] If you did, it would be me with the tiniest eyebrows, like clara bow eyebrows.

[1220] Me too.

[1221] Right?

[1222] You pluck them all out when you're on speed.

[1223] My eyelids never touched my irises.

[1224] It was always like, hi, what's up?

[1225] I was always really angry about nothing.

[1226] 98 she took us there after the Nevada Gaming Commission finds out that Ted is associating with Chicago mobster his name's Fat Herbie Blitstein What?

[1227] Say it again I'm sure I got that Fat Erbie Herbie Herbie with a K?

[1228] Herbie Herbie Herbie with a date Like the love bug Yeah got it Blitzstein Fat Herbie Blitsteen Which I'm like, go juice.

[1229] Yeah.

[1230] Fat Herbie Blitzstein.

[1231] I bet he was fun.

[1232] I hope he was super skinny.

[1233] One of those ones?

[1234] They find out that Ted's hanging out with him.

[1235] So the Nevada Gaming Commission is like your older sister that tells on you.

[1236] And it's like a super big bummer.

[1237] And you're like, what?

[1238] That they voted unanimously to provoke, permanently revoked Ted's gaming license.

[1239] he's the first he's the first person to lose his license from violating a Nevada regulation that bans gaming license holders from associating with known criminals Oh I mean Who amongst us is not a criminal She likes it Yeah Had it Sick of it Commission these games for fuck's sake Sorry Can we get some regulation?

[1240] I know.

[1241] Right?

[1242] Yep.

[1243] I'll do it for you because you're telling your story.

[1244] Oh, you don't have to do that.

[1245] I will.

[1246] It'll be fun.

[1247] Thank you.

[1248] That's very nice.

[1249] But, but, but, but, do the license.

[1250] His ties are now...

[1251] Uh -huh.

[1252] I get a little, too.

[1253] Oh, okay.

[1254] On the back end.

[1255] It's making your hair do this, like, amazing thing.

[1256] Okay.

[1257] Ties are severed from the family business.

[1258] They're like, pack up all your shit in the basement of the horses shit.

[1259] get the fuck out of here, you can't be in here.

[1260] So he takes all his crazy fucking silver collection estimated to be worth anywhere from $7 to $14 million fucking dollars.

[1261] He collects silver.

[1262] Yeah.

[1263] My dad's like, do it.

[1264] That's my dad's like apocalypse plan.

[1265] Invest in silver.

[1266] It's a good idea.

[1267] Copper wire is also a great thing to strip.

[1268] If you ever see it anywhere, just pull it down and put it in your car.

[1269] I've heard that.

[1270] For later, for after when the bomb hits.

[1271] You'll know.

[1272] You'll find someone to sell it to.

[1273] At this point, Sandy and Ted's relationship is starting to sour.

[1274] Ted had lost his gaming license, and after that, his drug addiction got fucking worse.

[1275] Probably as bored as fuck at home, right?

[1276] We've all been there.

[1277] We just didn't do...

[1278] Just can't stop.

[1279] Yeah.

[1280] So he, needing to find a new place to store his silver, since he had a GTFO out of there, he enlisted the help of a dude.

[1281] named Rick Tavish, who owned a trucking company who Sandy had met recently.

[1282] And there's just like so much information about this dude and like it's so hard to find the exact fucking details of him.

[1283] Sounds like he was a bad guy.

[1284] He's described as regularly handsome, a financially troubled contractor from Montana with a criminal record that included convictions for aggravated assault and cocaine dealing.

[1285] It's like the dating show.

[1286] Your eyes turn into hearts.

[1287] Contestant number one.

[1288] He's perfectly terrible for me. I think there's a photo of him.

[1289] Yes.

[1290] That's them.

[1291] So that's Sandy and that's Rick.

[1292] That's fucking Will Ferrell, if I've ever seen him.

[1293] Do not, do not try to tell me. But, but, but, owned a trucking company.

[1294] Okay.

[1295] So, okay.

[1296] He's soon confiding to friends that he was, quote, here's this fucking romantic.

[1297] He's clearly a romantic.

[1298] Laying the pipe to Binion's girlfriend.

[1299] Oh.

[1300] Okay.

[1301] I have another recovered memory.

[1302] Great.

[1303] There was a stand -up comedian.

[1304] I first started stand -up in Sacramento.

[1305] Please tell me who it is.

[1306] No, I can't even remember his name.

[1307] Okay, good.

[1308] He's a nobody.

[1309] I don't think he ever, I don't think he flourished.

[1310] You don't think he succeeded.

[1311] I don't know.

[1312] But he had a map and he had pins in the map and then next to the pin it would say LP.

[1313] No. And that's everywhere in the United States he had laid pipes.

[1314] No!

[1315] This is my world.

[1316] I've been in it since I was 20.

[1317] It's so upsetting.

[1318] I never got better.

[1319] Are we sure he didn't mean take a shit?

[1320] That's what I thought it meant.

[1321] The first time I saw the map I thought he had put a pin everywhere he had taken a shit across the United States.

[1322] And I was like, that's weird and not something to brag about.

[1323] And then I think it was someone like Blank Patch or somebody who was like, Karen, laying pipe means making love with a woman.

[1324] And I was like, oh, I've got to get out of this business.

[1325] I've got to go lay some pipe.

[1326] I'll be right back.

[1327] That's like an obvious one.

[1328] You're going to the bathroom.

[1329] I'm seeing this girl.

[1330] We've started to lay pipe.

[1331] I just think there's something there.

[1332] I think it's real.

[1333] The pipe laying is so, there's miles of it.

[1334] It's all copper.

[1335] It's amazing.

[1336] It's copper wire everywhere.

[1337] So he's clearly sucks.

[1338] And then also telling her that he's also telling his friends, he's using her to advance his plan to steal the bulk of Ted's fortune, including the silver, etc. So when Ted has to get a new place to hide his shit, he hires Rick to help construct a new vault.

[1339] It's a concrete bunker 12 feet deep built on the desert floor on a desert floor on a piece of property he owned in Parup.

[1340] I don't know.

[1341] I'm just saying what I think they're saying.

[1342] Parra.

[1343] Kaming it at me four times.

[1344] I do know it's 60 miles west of Las Vegas.

[1345] Can you imagine?

[1346] The after party's there tonight.

[1347] We're going to have a rave.

[1348] We drive out there to parup.

[1349] Lace and pipe.

[1350] I had no choice.

[1351] It's the thing we were talking about two minutes ago.

[1352] It's called a callback.

[1353] I'm stuck.

[1354] I'm stuck in this.

[1355] So the bunker, which sounds awesome, contained tons of silver bullion, horseshoe casino chips, paper currency, and more than 100 ,000 rare coins, including Carson City, silver dollars, many in mint condition.

[1356] I don't know what that means.

[1357] Really nice.

[1358] Not mint, but Carson's...

[1359] I know what mint means.

[1360] I mean, I understand that you wouldn't think I did based on my track record.

[1361] It was just a sentence construction, that's all.

[1362] Came at the end.

[1363] Estimated to be worth up to $14 million in this fucking vault.

[1364] And so the only people who had the combination are Ted and this fucking bad guy, Rick.

[1365] Bad Will Ferrell.

[1366] Bad Will Ferrell.

[1367] So Bad Will Ferrell becomes a regular visitor at the Bidion household.

[1368] He said he fell in love with Sandy.

[1369] Days after the treasure is sealed in this underground bunker, Ted revises his will.

[1370] The bulk of his estate is $30 million worth it.

[1371] worth that I was going to go to his daughter deleted the name as a bunch of people and bequeath Sandy $300 ,000 Oh, that's a slap in the face because he already has a $100 ,000 car that's a lot of fucking money though No, it is a lot of money.

[1372] It's not enough Well I think what she wants She wants to be living that you know silver bullion life Right, right?

[1373] Oh but also his home and all of its contents Oh that's weird you think his daughter would like want to fucking keepsake Maybe it was all like a daffodil yellow or something she could handle.

[1374] She remade the whole thing.

[1375] It's like marble flooring and stuff.

[1376] I don't know.

[1377] What's nice?

[1378] Marble kind of tops?

[1379] Yeah.

[1380] Marble's nice.

[1381] To make sure.

[1382] Sandy.

[1383] What are you talking about?

[1384] I don't know.

[1385] I'm really, I feel like my brain is, okay.

[1386] And then.

[1387] So by this time, though, and maybe this is why, the relationship had started to go real shitty.

[1388] Sandy and Ted's left in separate rooms.

[1389] and Sandy barely hit her affair with Rick.

[1390] So on September 17th, 1998, six months after losing his gaming license, Sandy calls the police saying, my husband is stopped breathing, and then the connection was lost.

[1391] Paramedics found Ted Binion in his den lying on a yoga mat, empty bottle of Xanax besides him, dead.

[1392] The autopsy and toxicology report showed that he had died of a lethal dosage combination of Xanax and heroin.

[1393] with traces of Valium.

[1394] Yay.

[1395] Wow.

[1396] That's so many drugs.

[1397] Someone just went, Woo!

[1398] Keep an eye on her security.

[1399] Just a little one?

[1400] Yeah.

[1401] Come on.

[1402] The day before, Binion had himself purchased 12 pieces of tar heroin from a street drug dealer and had earlier gotten a prescription from his next -door neighbor, a doctor for Xanax, and had gotten it himself.

[1403] So he had purchased all those drugs on his own.

[1404] So they thought that maybe it was an accidental overdose or on purpose.

[1405] But Las Vegas homicide detectives thought that the scene looked stage.

[1406] His body didn't show typical signs of a drug overdose.

[1407] Also, his stomach contained heroin, and that police thought that an addict nor suicide would take heroin.

[1408] You don't eat heroin, right?

[1409] You do not eat heroin.

[1410] It's not like pot.

[1411] You can't make heroin brownies.

[1412] Someone in the audience is like, actually you can.

[1413] I mean, I didn't know that.

[1414] I mean, I wouldn't have tried it, but...

[1415] I just feel like, I mean, eating it isn't the ideal way to take heroin.

[1416] If you, if you want to shoot it into your eye, that's good, but...

[1417] No!

[1418] But eating it won't work.

[1419] Okay.

[1420] So then, yeah, like, that's really suspicious, right?

[1421] I think so.

[1422] Okay.

[1423] So, what prosecutors ended up believing is that Rick and Ted...

[1424] Rick restrained Ted with handcuffs or thumb cuffs while Sandy mixed...

[1425] I know.

[1426] Is that real?

[1427] It was in the article.

[1428] I didn't make it up.

[1429] We need to get a pair of thumb cups and see how, if they really work.

[1430] I can't even picture it.

[1431] It seems like a dumb party game that if it happened at a party I was at, I would get really mad.

[1432] I don't think they would have picked you for the jury after this day.

[1433] They're like, how do you feel about thumb coughs?

[1434] Is that that fucking game that people?

[1435] People keep playing.

[1436] Ma 'am, we're going to need you to...

[1437] Ma 'am, you're dismissed from society.

[1438] So then they said that Sandy mixed up the heroin and stuff in a glass and forced him to drink it, and then that he was smothered.

[1439] So this is the fucking weirdest thing I've ever seen.

[1440] The wine glass disappeared.

[1441] They could never find that wine glass, but prosecutors have a videotape filmed the following day of the crime scene, you know.

[1442] And I guess it shows Sandy removing a wine glass from the kitchen counter and dropping it into her handbag.

[1443] On the police tape.

[1444] Yes, and I was like, is this real?

[1445] Because I only saw it in one article, and I couldn't find the video, and it's just like, well, then clearly.

[1446] And she did it like, do, do, do, do, do, do, do.

[1447] She did that with her mouth as she took the one glass away.

[1448] She has, like, a mask on.

[1449] A black and white striped shirt.

[1450] It's all tiptoes.

[1451] Plink, plink, plink, plink, plink, plink, plink, plink, plink, blink, blink.

[1452] The camera's pointed elsewhere.

[1453] But also, wouldn't.

[1454] videotape cop be like, pardon me, you're not allowed to do that.

[1455] I'm pretty sure.

[1456] Yeah, lots of questions on that.

[1457] It might not be even real, but I had to include it because, wow, great visual.

[1458] Just kind of like...

[1459] Also, like, smash immediately in your purse.

[1460] You'd have to get, like, a very specific purse.

[1461] But, okay, so I guess a large amount of cash in jewelry we were missing from the house, a $300 ,000 collection of rare coins and currency that Ted had kept in his den were gone.

[1462] And two days after Ted Binion was found dead, Sheriff's deputies found Rick Tabish, fucking Will Ferrell, and two other men unearthing the silver from the vault, like also with eye masks on fucking tiptoes.

[1463] They, two days later?

[1464] Just hold on the vault for fucking six months.

[1465] And they were like, no, he told us to do it, but he was arrested and then he was bailed out by Sandy with a Mercedes -Benz 500 S .L. Convertible and five pieces of jewelry as collateral.

[1466] Oh.

[1467] That are probably worth more than something.

[1468] Yeah, a lot.

[1469] The Binion Estate hired a private investigator because nobody believed that he had done it on purpose or even on accident.

[1470] And so he turned up a trail of cellular phone conversations and secret meetings between Rick and Sandy as well as evidence that they had told people about the plot to kill Ted.

[1471] So they were like blibbby blab and all over town.

[1472] Oh, guys.

[1473] Yeah.

[1474] But it wasn't until about 10 months later in June of 1999, when I turned 19, after it was a special day.

[1475] Just describe one outfit.

[1476] I did it.

[1477] I wore like low -rise, like old man pants.

[1478] Okay.

[1479] That like went down to the hip real low with like one of those belts that has the buck that you like, you know, like a buckley belt.

[1480] Yeah, yeah.

[1481] Crop top.

[1482] Okay.

[1483] Real tiny.

[1484] Just like super skinny.

[1485] I wore a dog, a cat collar with rhinestones, burrets.

[1486] Very like, um...

[1487] Homeless?

[1488] No. Is that that picture where you're, it's like from below and it's like really long?

[1489] That's her.

[1490] You looked pretty cool.

[1491] Thank you.

[1492] Ninety -nine I had stopped drinking and I was just mad all the time.

[1493] But then...

[1494] 10 months.

[1495] The coroner changes Ted's cause of death from suicide to homicide.

[1496] Sandy and Ricker arrested in charge with murder and conspiracy to commit murder and or robbery.

[1497] The prosecution was purely circumstantial, relying heavily on the testimony of pathologist Michael M. Baden.

[1498] He testified the two small red lesions on Ted's chest indicated, he ready for this, but he had died as a result of burking.

[1499] Do you know what burking in?

[1500] Oh, no. I did not.

[1501] need to know what this was.

[1502] It's a technique in which one person obstructs the victim's nose and mouth while the other person sits on their chest to suffocate them.

[1503] My sister did that to me every day after school.

[1504] What's it called when they dangle spit over your face and you turn away and then it goes into your fucking ear?

[1505] Sorry, it's not about me. But isn't it?

[1506] Burking owes its name to William Burke, who along with the partner used the method.

[1507] The partner was like, why couldn't it be called fucking Thomasing, or whatever his last name was?

[1508] Smithing.

[1509] Why didn't I get it?

[1510] Yeah.

[1511] They used the method to kill women in the 19th century Scotland so the corpses could be sold for dissection.

[1512] Oh, Burke and Hair.

[1513] Yeah.

[1514] Yeah, yeah.

[1515] You're so smart.

[1516] Herring.

[1517] That doesn't have the same ring.

[1518] I agree with them.

[1519] I've heard those people of those people.

[1520] shit.

[1521] Okay, so he's killed in a really kind of weird, like they think it's going to be, no one's going to catch on to it.

[1522] That's what the prosecutors are saying.

[1523] Yeah.

[1524] Another key witness attorney James Brown, I know, testified that Binion called him the day before his death to change the terms of his will.

[1525] He said that, quote, he said, quote, take Sandy out of the will if she doesn't kill me tonight.

[1526] If I'm dead, you'll know what happened.

[1527] Wow.

[1528] Right.

[1529] So clearly, the jury found Murphy and Tabish, Sandy and Rick, guilty of first -degree murder and a conspires ring to seal silver bullion.

[1530] Jesus.

[1531] Conspiring?

[1532] Conspicerring.

[1533] You know.

[1534] They're making it spicy.

[1535] They were spicing up.

[1536] You make a plan while you're listening to the spice girls.

[1537] Exactly.

[1538] Okay.

[1539] So at 28 years old, Sandy was sentenced to at least 22 years in prison on 12 counts.

[1540] the judge said she had committed quote the ultimate betrayal which they should have called up made for TV movie that that you're exactly right the ultimate betrayal is an amazing title yeah I'm sure it's taken but you know what so is sex and lies and in the video tape wasn't Matthew Odine in that sex lies and videotape?

[1541] Yeah James Spader thank you James Spader Gene Shalett's here, everybody.

[1542] Oh, shit.

[1543] Rick was sentenced to 25 years to life, but in 2003, so more than three years after her conviction, the Nevada Supreme Court ruled that the trial was unfair because Judge Bonaventure, cool name, had made two errors.

[1544] First, he had included an unrelated charge in the trial.

[1545] Okay, so basically Rick Tabish had tortured a businessman to get him to, like, work in his business.

[1546] which is fun.

[1547] That's one way to do it.

[1548] And he allowed, so basically they were tried together, but she was trying, he was being tried for other stuff at the same time, so they shouldn't have been tried together is what they were arguing.

[1549] And then also that our friend James Brown's statement about the will, they couldn't say that because the jury should have been considered as an offering insight and dominion state of mind and not evidence as Sandy wanting him dead, something like that.

[1550] It's not, yeah, him saying it doesn't mean it's going to happen.

[1551] Right.

[1552] So, and then as for the Burking testimony, several experts are called to testify that the marks on his chest were probably just dermatitis or even skin cancer or even a burn from a cigarette rather than buttons being pressed into the skin.

[1553] So then, on November 23, 2004, the jury acquitted Sandy and Rick of the murder.

[1554] Wow.

[1555] Rick stayed in prison on extortion charges until 2010.

[1556] where he remained looking like our friend Will Ferrell.

[1557] And he's here tonight, ladies and gentlemen.

[1558] My goodness.

[1559] Okay.

[1560] So, they're out.

[1561] So Ted Binion had millions in and around his Las Vegas home, all of which went, he hid fucking money everywhere.

[1562] Trazier?

[1563] Trazier.

[1564] All of which went missing after his death.

[1565] It's rumored to be buried on the property under all.

[1566] mounds in the front and backyards.

[1567] And that's it.

[1568] That's the story of the murder of Ted Binion.

[1569] Oh, my God.

[1570] There are so many things to love in that story.

[1571] But the fact that he went out having buried money is, it makes me love him more than I've ever loved anyone in my family.

[1572] That's the best.

[1573] Yeah.

[1574] He's like, enjoy yourself for in the next 50 years.

[1575] Trying to find my de bloons.

[1576] Have fun with it.

[1577] Fucking love it.

[1578] Yeah.

[1579] Pinions.

[1580] Have fun with your murder.

[1581] Binions.

[1582] All right.

[1583] Do we have time for a...

[1584] I think we do.

[1585] I think we should start 2018 fresh.

[1586] Are you sure?

[1587] Yeah.

[1588] Too much pressure?

[1589] Yeah, way too much pressure.

[1590] Okay, well, we're going to just tell you a couple.

[1591] And I know a lot of you know this already.

[1592] It's yelling won't help.

[1593] Here's a couple rules.

[1594] You can't be so drunk that you can't tell your own story.

[1595] Buzzed is fine, but you have to be able to deliver.

[1596] It's good when it's local.

[1597] People want to hear about stuff that's happening.

[1598] Nevada.

[1599] We don't care.

[1600] God, that, your voice, I hope you're in the theater because your voice was clear as a bell.

[1601] It was amazing.

[1602] Karen's going to pick.

[1603] Are there any other rules?

[1604] No. It's fucking killer.

[1605] Can we have the lights come up just a tiny bit, if that's possible?

[1606] Karen's picking, so I have nothing to be in the blue shirt.

[1607] Yes.

[1608] Blue, yeah, yeah.

[1609] There's this.

[1610] Thank you.

[1611] That's good with the lights.

[1612] Oh, my God.

[1613] Look how big this room is.

[1614] Who is it?

[1615] Where?

[1616] That way.

[1617] To this.

[1618] Don't bring a bunch of fucking people.

[1619] Just get up here.

[1620] Jesus.

[1621] Do you see this?

[1622] Come on.

[1623] You guys.

[1624] What did you see?

[1625] I didn't see the person.

[1626] She's over there.

[1627] Hi.

[1628] I'm not sure.

[1629] Oh, here we go.

[1630] Sorry, what's your name?

[1631] Sarah and.

[1632] Brenda.

[1633] Yes.

[1634] Oh, she's the painting.

[1635] Then go.

[1636] Okay.

[1637] What's your story?

[1638] Oh my God.

[1639] Where are you from?

[1640] We are from the state of Jefferson, if anyone knows where that is.

[1641] In California.

[1642] Okay.

[1643] In a small town called Wairika.

[1644] Hometown murder is none other than your favorite Jody Eris.

[1645] Jody?

[1646] Oh, shit is right.

[1647] Because she, we're from a kind of large family.

[1648] We have four brothers, three of which have had sexual relations with one or more of the, oh, two.

[1649] Two.

[1650] Two.

[1651] Two.

[1652] Of the a four.

[1653] Two of the Aries?

[1654] Oh my God.

[1655] Tell the story because you actually wrote the hometown.

[1656] The email.

[1657] The email.

[1658] Okay.

[1659] You know more than I do.

[1660] I can't believe.

[1661] I cannot believe this is happening right now.

[1662] This is so surreal.

[1663] So stand up and tell everybody your name.

[1664] My name is Brenda.

[1665] About Jody.

[1666] Okay.

[1667] Dated Jody.

[1668] If you watch.

[1669] the trial of Jody, she talked about how she wanted Travis to come back to Waireka and they were going to go up to this area in Wyrka called Greenhorn.

[1670] Well, we lived right next to Greenhorn and she actually did that shit with our brother.

[1671] Wow.

[1672] Yes.

[1673] Like obsessive like stalking and all that.

[1674] Just teenage, they were dating, they were teenagers, they would take a blanket camera go hiking up on the trails of Greenhorn they would go up there and do that do what specifically sexual stuff probably fingering like she wanted Travis to do but so that was her pattern was like doing that thing and then after they broke up she was still very much infatuated with our brother she would go out of her way to see him, talk to him, whatever.

[1675] Okay.

[1676] Is now married to her cousin.

[1677] Wow.

[1678] For beautiful children together.

[1679] It's a small town.

[1680] Another brother.

[1681] Tony is two years older than Buzz.

[1682] He's kind of a dirtbag.

[1683] There were several girls that both Buzz and Tony slept with.

[1684] Oh, man. And I think that was part of the reason like Jody connected with Tony because she wanted to make Buzz jealous, that kind of thing.

[1685] That, you know, after high school, after teenage years.

[1686] 2008.

[1687] Jody moved away from Wairika.

[1688] She was doing the whole, she had met, actually she met Travis here in Las Vegas in 2006.

[1689] So it kind of comes full circle.

[1690] But 2008, she's moving from Las Vegas, you know, Mesa, Arizona.

[1691] She's kind of going all over, but she always comes back to Wairika to see her family.

[1692] And our brother, Joel, he has, he's a tattoo artist.

[1693] He has a tattoo shop right next to a restaurant that Jody's parents have.

[1694] there in Wairika.

[1695] And they become acquaintances, talk to each other.

[1696] Jody's very drawn to Joel because of the history with our family, and because he's artistic.

[1697] But Joel never screwed Jody ever.

[1698] I swear, he didn't.

[1699] But she did start dating his roommate.

[1700] And this was literally during the time where she was coming back and forth and actually the roommate was asked to testify or give a statement.

[1701] All those pictures of Jody were, you know, she's here in Wyrika and da -da -da, like, the roommate was on those.

[1702] Oh, God.

[1703] Yeah.

[1704] Like, that's how close it was.

[1705] But anyway.

[1706] So, Jody.

[1707] And my other brother.

[1708] So, Jody.

[1709] Will you get there?

[1710] She comes to Wai Rika.

[1711] the roommate and Joel and Jody go they're hanging out they go to the one bar in Wyrika and for some reason Jody is very much gravitated towards our brother and she was going to stay the night at their apartment that they shared and Joel's like oh okay are you going to stay blah blah blah and she's like no I have to go back to Arizona I have to go to a funeral Whoa.

[1712] Yeah.

[1713] Well, she says, I have to go back to a funeral because my really good friend, he was just murdered.

[1714] Oh, my God.

[1715] And, of course, Joel, he's like, whoa, wow.

[1716] Oh, my gosh, I'm so sorry.

[1717] Like, that's horrible, you know.

[1718] And she's like, yeah, he was brutally murdered.

[1719] She gives graphic details of he was stabbed.

[1720] They think it was somebody he knew, blah, blah, blah.

[1721] blah.

[1722] I had to give DNA.

[1723] The police questioned me. I just got back from being interrogated.

[1724] And of course, my brother, he's like, are you a suspect?

[1725] And she's like, no. They're just, you know, talking to everybody who, you know, close friends, blah, blah, blah.

[1726] And my brother, he's like, oh my gosh, I'm just so sorry, you know, and she's like, ah, you know, I don't want to talk about it anymore.

[1727] and so she starts dancing and she's like I want to sing karaoke and he's like okay and so she gets up Jody fucking go to her funeral for her good friend Travis and she gets up and she sings Patsy Klein crazy she fucking sings crazy and my two weeks later she was arrested in Waerica, California.

[1728] He lives in that house.

[1729] My sister -in -law is her cousin.

[1730] It's fucking small town, Wyrika.

[1731] Thank you very much.

[1732] You hate that girl.

[1733] That was amazing.

[1734] I got a monster.

[1735] Just fucking, that was some high -level sister smack -talking.

[1736] You don't want to be the ex -girlfriend.

[1737] That was fun.

[1738] This was fun.

[1739] The first show of our 2018 tour, we're so fucking lucky.

[1740] Oh, my God.

[1741] I'm doing this so much, but the idea that, We put tickets on sale and then they sell out so fast people get angry at us is the most exciting thing that's ever happened in our lives.

[1742] Thank you so much for getting the tickets, for waiting, for, you know, spending lots of money and everything.

[1743] We are so, so grateful that this podcast gets to bring us here with you guys.

[1744] The live shows are the most fun.

[1745] So thanks for being a part of it tonight, you guys.

[1746] And thank you for screaming for the longest, any audience, has ever screamed for us at Las Vegas.

[1747] Stay sexy.

[1748] And Joe!