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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz XX

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[13] This is the Dan Levatore show with the Stucats podcast.

[14] Bad Day, Jessica did save me yesterday or try to save me. She worked hard to try to save me from the wrath of Jacksonville fans, and now the Florida Times Union has written about this.

[15] Because, in talking about the Super Bowl yesterday, I met nationally.

[16] I didn't mean regionally.

[17] Of course, the people of Jacksonville care about Jacksonville.

[18] I was saying that nationally no one cares about the Jacksonville Jags.

[19] And now the Florida Times Union says, I've woken a sleeping cat.

[20] Oh.

[21] You're doubling down too.

[22] Of course, it's done not on my watch.

[23] People of Jacksonville, Duval County, my people.

[24] Sambo Seli's still at my house waiting to be burned.

[25] If I had known that this conversation happened today or yesterday, I would have started burning it yesterday for all of your sins, Dan.

[26] Juju, careful with the lighter.

[27] The fire alarms are very sensitive around here.

[28] They are constantly going off.

[29] Dan, I tried to save you.

[30] I tried to save you, and I appreciate the writer of that story, acknowledging that I tried to save you.

[31] Jacksonville fans, they're not going to take that lightly.

[32] But I'm not wrong.

[33] That Jacksonville fans do care deeply, and no one outside of Jacksonville cares deeply about the Jacksonville Jacks.

[34] I mean, they have sort of become the de facto team of, like, Clemson fans, which is becoming a more and more powerful fan base as well.

[35] So I do have to disagree with you.

[36] Okay, well, they're, okay, so now they're Trevor Lawrence fans as well.

[37] All right, I'll give you Jacksonville and Clemson.

[38] I'll give you those two regions are where people would care deeply if Jacksonville made the Super Bowl.

[39] But that's it.

[40] That's all I'm giving you, Duval.

[41] That's all I'm giving you Florida Times Union.

[42] And don't threaten me again with you woke up a sleeping cat, Levitart.

[43] In your region, it smells different than other regions in the United States.

[44] It does.

[45] Jacksonville still smells bad.

[46] I've been there recently.

[47] It does.

[48] It Jackson, put it on the poll at Lebitard show.

[49] Does Jacksonville smell bad?

[50] Honestly, I've driven through Jacksonville several times in the last three years.

[51] It's one of the places you've got to drive through to get from Miami to New York.

[52] Never noticed a smell, but I will be rolling down my windows next time.

[53] Well, wait a minute.

[54] That's the reason you didn't notice to stop.

[55] It's not strong enough to see through the windows.

[56] It just smells like poop everywhere?

[57] I've never noticed.

[58] Have you been outside in Jacksonville with your windows open?

[59] No, we normally stop in St. Augustine or Amelia Island.

[60] Got to get a little coast trip in there.

[61] I wasn't going to say poop.

[62] I didn't know what the smell was.

[63] I was going to go closer to paper mills, but I don't know what paper mills smell like, and I do know what poop smells like, and it's closer to poop than it is to paper mills.

[64] Wait, you didn't say poop.

[65] Who said poop?

[66] Juju said poop.

[67] It doesn't matter who said what.

[68] Just get it on.

[69] And anyway, anyway, anyway.

[70] I'm sorry, Jackson.

[71] That doesn't sound like an apology at all.

[72] Getting back to what we were talking, about because I was surprised by your guys's reaction to the Kaepernick news where you were like, oh, well, it's something.

[73] And my reaction was, hey, you ruined his career.

[74] Well, he didn't ruin his career.

[75] Harbaugh.

[76] Harbaugh did?

[77] No, the NFL.

[78] Oh, yeah.

[79] The NFL ruined his career.

[80] And now you can get back in coaching.

[81] But we took your athletic prime at the greatest and most valuable position.

[82] I wasn't celebrating that.

[83] I was disappointed that it wasn't a backup job somewhere and that it was merely a coaching position.

[84] The idea that that would create an enthusiasm suggests to me a lowered bar on where it is that we should expect people to be treated fairly.

[85] No, but Dan, like the damage has been done, as you said, his athletic prime is over.

[86] And so this, while it feels like a small gesture, it is still way more than any other NFL franchises, even intimate, even whiffed about for him.

[87] And obviously Harbaugh and him have a relationship going back to their 49ers days, but still, like, like, that's not the only dude.

[88] Like, he had to wait for Harbaugh to come back from college in order for someone to pick up the phone.

[89] That's kind of crazy.

[90] I get what you're saying.

[91] It can never make up for what happened to him.

[92] But, like, man, let's be honest and let's be real.

[93] Like, it's miles better than anything, any other gesture anyone has done.

[94] I'm not saying if this sounded like I was in any way critical of Harbaugh here, I want that corrected.

[95] Yes, Harbaugh is extending to Colin Kaepernick something that no one else has extended.

[96] As recently as I don't know, I'm going to say a year and a half ago, was it the Ravens that were going to try and do a tryout and all of it was too hot for even, just a tryout was something that was too hot for everybody involved and so they didn't end up doing it.

[97] Or the NFL tried to do like a group workout and then Kaepernick didn't agree to certain specifications and the whole thing got new.

[98] The idea that everything around this person who didn't have any sort of problems before this would be so flammable that not only the prime of his career would be wrecked, but we'd sort of shrug at the idea, well, Jim Harbaugh is certainly brave, doing something no one else has done, just suggest to me that we've moved all of the lines on where fairness is.

[99] Has he said that he wants to coach?

[100] Right?

[101] Like, they offer him the job, but has he been trying to get a coaching job before?

[102] He's been saying he's still training to play, that he's been, getting ready for the league for the last six years.

[103] This has been super weird in a number of different ways.

[104] He was so scarred by everything that happened there that the way he decided to finally address it publicly.

[105] Think about if you've seen this a lot because where have you seen Kaepernick interviewed since all of this happened?

[106] No, he decided to do it with artistically, with a Netflix explanation that starred Nick Offerman as his father.

[107] He decided to do it instead of going into the way anyone else would have done this.

[108] What is rehabbing your image that didn't actually need rehabbing?

[109] Where does it start?

[110] An interview.

[111] You sit down and you give your side.

[112] We have still not heard from Kaepernick.

[113] Like we have not had him sit down and say any of what he thinks about anything.

[114] It's just reported here and reported there.

[115] And it's been so long that his athletic prime is now gone.

[116] And we're in a place where we're applauding the reduced standard after racism has ended in the end zone where they do their stencling and after the absurd day where Patrick Mahomes finally says what Kaepernick, what happened to him was wrong and then Godell says, hey, sorry, sorry about all of that.

[117] It still takes years after that to get to, how about a coach, an assistant coaching job, star quarterback?

[118] Let's look at all the other star quarterbacks who are as good as he is that have to accept an assistant coaching job that's offered to them by a friend.

[119] And by the way, Dan, the other thing that I found kind of suspicious is they offered him the job according to Jim Harbaugh and Colin is traveling but he's going to consider it.

[120] Why would Jim Harbaugh feel the need to let us know all that?

[121] Wouldn't they just go through the process?

[122] And at the end of it, say, hey, I offered it to Conn he didn't want to do it.

[123] Or hey, you know, guess what guys?

[124] I got you Colin Kaepernick back.

[125] Like, why would you say, hey guys, guess who I'm talking to?

[126] He's out of the country now, but he hasn't given us an answer yet.

[127] Yeah, there's a lot going on with this that like I'm trying to jog my own memory of some of it.

[128] It looks like Kaepernick did that GMA interview two years ago where he was saying that he still wanted to be back in the NFL and was still training for it.

[129] But I was going back to 2016 because I don't remember Jim Harbaugh always being very supportive of him.

[130] And I remember he made some comments like initially in 2016 that were like, I disagree with what he's doing.

[131] And like no one really had Colin Kaepernick's back at, especially at the head coaching level at that time.

[132] So, but I do think he then kind of went and like, like watch some of that back a few years later.

[133] So this is all, again, like I'm trying to like remember, but this is super complicated.

[134] It goes back like eight years now to what happened when and I'm figuring it out.

[135] Again, though, that's his athletic prime and it ended up getting chewed up by that.

[136] And that GMA interview was up as part of the promotion for what it is that he was doing for Netflix.

[137] You got to do one of those.

[138] It wasn't a long form interview where we get deep access to his thoughts.

[139] He's still kind of gun shy.

[140] He's got to say the right things before.

[141] they'll let him back into the league in any form they're going to expect from him some sort of public contrition for something that that he wasn't wrong about like expressing expressing his free rights to protest and he got banned from the league he got blacklisted and they ended his career i'm i'm surprised that all of you like i'm not forgiving on this one coaching job like no that's that's not quite enough that's not that's not that's That's not reparations.

[142] At this stage, though, at this stage.

[143] I agree.

[144] I'm with you 100%.

[145] But at this stage, they don't have a time machine.

[146] At this stage, what could they offer them?

[147] That would make it up.

[148] There's nothing they could offer.

[149] They could make it up.

[150] Much like while you can offer reparations to black people in this country for centuries of violence, institutionalized violence, it's never going to make up for it.

[151] It's a consolation or it's a start, it's a start, but it's never going to make up for slavery.

[152] You say what could they do?

[153] I think since they, like you said, why broadcasts and why publicize the fact that you offered a man a job?

[154] So if you're into that kind of gimmick, we'll bring him in for a quarterback session or competition for the summertime if you're just concerned with the gimmick of looking like you're helping him.

[155] When you say, I mean, at this stage, what can you do?

[156] The answer is outside of...

[157] of putting him in a uniform and allowing him to play the position, what you've done is simply unforgivable.

[158] Doesn't matter whether your commissioner apologizes for it.

[159] Doesn't matter if you give him a coaching job.

[160] You ended the prime of this man's career at the most valuable position.

[161] It can't be forgiven unless he's allowed a chance back to get at that position.

[162] There's just, there are no moves that are going to impress me. me here that aren't going to feel like PR.

[163] If they brought him in, let's say, for camp, and he's 36, he's going to be 37 in November.

[164] If they brought him in and he got beat out by someone else, which is conceivable.

[165] He's been out the game for seven years.

[166] No, at this point, he can't.

[167] But that's my point.

[168] It can't be expected.

[169] No, what they've done is, it's not correctable.

[170] Exactly.

[171] That's my point.

[172] But it's my point, too.

[173] No. Okay, so we agree.

[174] Who's point?

[175] is it?

[176] We did it.

[177] Take my hand.

[178] Agree to disagree?

[179] We don't.

[180] Agree to agree.

[181] Agree to agree.

[182] I'm still doing my research back here on what, who said what, when.

[183] You understand what I'm saying?

[184] If we both agree that it's not correctable, then there literally isn't anything that we can ever be positive about.

[185] There is almost other than a time machine.

[186] There's nothing that I can think of other than inventing a time machine that the NFL could possibly do so that in my mind I can forget and forgive what they've already done to him.

[187] If that NFL did have a time machine and went back.

[188] Do you think they would have done this all differently?

[189] Yeah, they wouldn't have ended segregation.

[190] They would have killed.

[191] No, too much.

[192] I don't think that they, if presented with the same circumstances, I don't think that they would know how to handle it any better because their instinct is to punish it.

[193] And they'd punish it then.

[194] And they're just better about hiding that they punish it now.

[195] They haven't actually changed.

[196] apologized without actually making some of the changes that you would have to make so that if that happened this season, if C .J. Stroud knelt.

[197] And by the way, if you want to criticize what Kaepernick was at the time, go look at some of the things that he did running and moving.

[198] And you would have said that that was in a playoff game unprecedented, what he did to beat Aaron Rogers in Green Bay.

[199] If that happened again today, it would play.

[200] out the same way again today.

[201] Because Jerry Jones isn't actually going to change how he thinks about things and Jerry Jones is the most powerful owner in the league surrounded by a whole lot of other owners in the league who are very good at how they protect that power.

[202] Dan, Larry David once said the central theme, the central really pillar of who we are at Seinfeld was the characters at the end of the episode cannot have learned anything or become better from their experience.

[203] Like they can do all these things And usually it's sitcoms like, well, I never really thought about like that.

[204] And then we have a nice ending.

[205] Larry said, we can't do that.

[206] The end of the episode, they need to be the same awful people they were at the beginning, right?

[207] Having learned nothing and grown absolutely zero as human beings.

[208] That's the NFL.

[209] Like, there is no learning.

[210] There is no progress.

[211] There is just, hey, what prints money?

[212] All right, keep the money printing and everything else be damned.

[213] I would say that there generally is learning if you're really and authentically sorry.

[214] But they're not really an authentic place.

[215] At the NFL?

[216] You think that's what I'm saying.

[217] The NFL doesn't, they learn how to make more money.

[218] That's about it.

[219] But over their decision made them more money.

[220] Their league is stronger than it's ever been.

[221] Goodell is making more money than he's ever made.

[222] Those owners are making more money than they ever made.

[223] So in order, I get in trouble at home with Valerie if my apologies aren't because I'm really sorry.

[224] Of course Like you've got to really be sorry It can't be you're sorry And then explain why you're not actually wrong About stuff Like you can't say Hey I'm sorry Jacksonville I'm sorry you smell like shit That kind of apology Exactly that's not the way to apologize I have learned since then How to apologize Jacksonville You smell close to shit I'm sorry Oh wait a man no no no Because these apologies are based on you being married now You apologize as a married man Just to get off the argument We're trying to move away from right now.

[225] What?

[226] That's a great point.

[227] That's what the NFL did.

[228] The old ball and chain.

[229] That's what the NFL.

[230] I did not say that.

[231] My wife.

[232] I'll just do whatever she says so I can sleep in the bed tonight.

[233] Exactly.

[234] That nag.

[235] And then I watch them.

[236] Wait, sorry, wrong voice.

[237] I always sleep in the bed no matter what.

[238] Exactly, Roy, you're agreeing with misogynist Bain?

[239] Well, up until the whole nag comment she said, between that.

[240] But that's in essence, with the NFL did it's like what can I do to make you shut up I'm sorry which by the way a settlement isn't exactly I'm sorry it's just here take this money shut up that like here go shopping that's what a settlement is well wait can you give me the massage is made saying that so I can clean it up go shopping come on dozy of a show today yeah save me very royce made very royce white of you wow let's talk about that shall we yeah Yes, we shall.

[241] We shall.

[242] Royce White, for those of you who do not know, is somebody who is an exceptional basketball player at Iowa State.

[243] He was.

[244] At Iowa State, he was an exceptional basketball player.

[245] And one of the reasons that he's probably not in the NBA is because he was just generally problematic.

[246] He would not want to travel.

[247] He cited mental health stuff a lot sooner than most people cited mental health stuff.

[248] And now he has said, among other things, as a politician who is gathering strength and I don't know where he is in politics, but he did win his district or whatever.

[249] He now says that women are too mouty.

[250] This is what he said yesterday.

[251] By the way, that's like every comment under our Instagram when they post a video of me. So his message may really resonate.

[252] Apparently he won his primary in Minnesota.

[253] He's running for a GOP Senate seat.

[254] Yes.

[255] Okay.

[256] So this is someone with zero experience in politics whatsoever.

[257] He's running against the, well, he's won the Republican primary, and he's going to be running against the incumbent Amy Global Car.

[258] But to clean up some of the things that you said, because then, I don't know if you know this.

[259] Royce White was literally my last act working for the Phoenix Suns in terms of scouting, not only basketball, but also the intel, the background, and everything.

[260] When all of Iowa State staff was telling our front office, he's great, he doesn't have any problems.

[261] I was the one of the like, that's not what I'm hearing.

[262] And so he was the forerunner for all the mental health conversation we've had in sports.

[263] He does have an anxiety problem.

[264] It did cause him great levels of anxiety to fly.

[265] At the time, the research I did show that he got on most trips.

[266] A couple of them were the anxiety went too high, but he would take something, he would get on the trip, and that wasn't a problem.

[267] The biggest issue was, yes, he does have anxiety issues and other mental health issues, but he was what we'd like to, to call, like, a guy who's smart enough to know when I can use that as an excuse to either, A, do something I didn't want to do, or B, basically flip the power dynamic in any situation.

[268] And so a lot of kind of difficulties as far as someone being coachable.

[269] And at the end of the day, like my assessment was, he's a good player, but given all of these difficulties, not worth it.

[270] Not worth it.

[271] All things being equal.

[272] Not worth it.

[273] I'm not going to do all of this for my ninth guy.

[274] So, and that was, I thought, a very kind of basic assessment, right?

[275] Over the years, he flamed out very quickly from the NBA because that stuff doesn't fly when you're not good enough.

[276] And over the years, he's become more and more radicalized, especially post -COVID, right?

[277] Really crazy kind of right -wing, a lot of stuff that's kind of offensive and problematic.

[278] He was on Steve Bannon's show.

[279] So, no, we're leading up to this, right?

[280] I'm just saying this is a process.

[281] So we get to now, he's decided to enter politics, right?

[282] Run as a Republican.

[283] Wins the primary as a Republican candidate for this Senate seat.

[284] And then he goes on Steve Bannon's show.

[285] Do we have the sound or should I read the quote?

[286] No, the sound's not any good.

[287] They talked over each other a bunch.

[288] But, I mean, I gave you, there's not a lot more than women are too mouthy.

[289] I don't think that.

[290] Oh, Dan.

[291] You got a building up to this.

[292] He says, quote, well, look, let's just be frank.

[293] Women have become too mouthy.

[294] That's the black man in the room.

[295] I'll say that.

[296] What?

[297] That is a direct quote.

[298] So it is staggering on so many levels that, A, that could be what he perceives to be a party line.

[299] Right?

[300] Like, that's him kind of thinking, hey, I'm speaking to my base.

[301] He's on Steve Bannon show.

[302] He's clearly not talking to us.

[303] He's talking to his base.

[304] And the idea that the Republican base is these women, little lippy haven't they become, right?

[305] That they become basically Adam McKay's character that we pranked Greg Cody with a couple of years ago.

[306] That's staggering.

[307] And to me, I really wonder, this is the part where I feel like it's missing in most of the discourse, right, when it comes to politics.

[308] I really don't care who you vote for like you vote Republican, you vote Democrat.

[309] But what I crave in American politics right now is that when someone says something like this, you could be like, I'm a registered Republican, I vote Republican, that guy's a dumbass.

[310] You don't say that.

[311] That doesn't represent who I am.

[312] But everyone seems to be so lockstep in whatever.

[313] If someone's on my team said it, then I guess we got a ride out.

[314] What the fuck does that have to do with him being black?

[315] That's a great.

[316] That's a black man. I'll say it.

[317] I will tell you guys that whether it's Kaepernick or Royce White, you do see clearly.

[318] I hope that you see clearly, whether it's immigrants or others or transgender issues or just about anywhere where these divisions are making an appearance.

[319] In this case, Royce White as a man does not want women to have the equality.

[320] of being as mouthy as he's always been and continues to be this always ends up in the same place where it's some kind of other that's not in power asking for equality and then being told no by the gender in this case that has more of the power it's the answers always no capernick what you just don't want to be treated brutally by police no sorry we're going to end six years of your career here in your prime.

[321] Women, you want to speak freely and have the power that men do?

[322] No, we're not going to allow it.

[323] Get back in the kitchen.

[324] You're not allowed abortions and rights to your own body.

[325] We have rights that you do not.

[326] And when you ask for the equality, the answer again and again is no. Listen up, folks.

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[357] This is the Dan Lebatar show With the Stugats That's right It's Thursday Thunder And it's brought to you By our friends at Draft Kings Stay tuned because you're going to hear What Draft Kings has to offer All throughout the show Draft Kings The Crown is yours Juju what do we got?

[358] Man, last week Yet another two for three I am getting sick and tired of being sick and tired And as I say Send me your screenshots of your bet fail, and I got you.

[359] But this week, we are going straight to the top, baby.

[360] The W is back, and so are we.

[361] You got to dig it.

[362] So first leg, I'm going with my dog, beat Natasha Cloud.

[363] 11 .5 points tonight, I'm going over, dog.

[364] She's going against the Chicago Sky, and Andrew Reese and Kennedy Carter.

[365] They bring the best out of the other guards.

[366] So I'm going with her tonight, over 11 point feesies.

[367] He has been very strong in winning more than he loses, but we keep putting him in three -team parlays, three -leg parlays.

[368] The one that lost last time is Noah Lyles in the qualifier against a Japanese guy in a foe hawk.

[369] Like, what are we doing?

[370] Exactly.

[371] Like, how does that happen?

[372] In retrospect, Juju, you wish you had that one back, don't you?

[373] I do, brother.

[374] Oh, my God, I was trying to defend this brother early in the week.

[375] Oh, don't get me started.

[376] He is the Joker of the Year still.

[377] But the second leg of the Thursday Thunder, Big Mama Steph tonight.

[378] Stephanie Dawson, 1 .5 three -pointers, I think she's going over tonight.

[379] She's going against the Minnesota Lynx, the Fisa Collier and the crew.

[380] I think the links might get the better of them tonight, but Big Mama Steph going to make it rain yet again.

[381] Again, I will tell you that Juju puts great care into these.

[382] It's not like all those other farted out against the spread.

[383] Yesterday we gave you the Giants over the Braves.

[384] The Braves won 13 to 12, 13 to 2.

[385] 13 to 2.

[386] We got it totally wrong.

[387] Yeah, 13 to 12 would have been fine.

[388] That would have been a good game.

[389] Just a bit outside.

[390] And for the last leg, I'm going to New York.

[391] Excuse me. Sto York.

[392] They got the L .A. sports coming in town tonight.

[393] And my little sister, Rakea Jackson, been watching the Olympics.

[394] She's been dripping in the ball between her legs, watching the Olympics, watching them get go.

[395] She's like, okay, I can't wait for them to get back because we got Stewie and Sab on our schedule tonight.

[396] So I think she's going to take advantage of that spotlight in NYC tonight, Daddy.

[397] And I'm going over 11 .5 points from Rakea Jackson.

[398] Put your hoods up, ladies and gentlemen.

[399] All right, all WNBA bets.

[400] You guys seem around Juju to be a little bit scared.

[401] I've noticed that Tony and Jessica have been in their phones a lot, and they've been like worried about stuff all day today.

[402] I mean, Dan, we are dealing with the fallout of a hacking scandal right now.

[403] I don't know if you saw this report from the LA Times, but 2 .9 billion full name, date of birth, address, social security number, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, hacked allegedly by hackers somewhere on the dark web.

[404] That includes people from the U .S., Canada, and the U .K., I believe.

[405] They got Social Security?

[406] 2 .9 billion doesn't even make sense.

[407] Like that amount of people doesn't even make sense.

[408] How do you have 2 .9 billion Social Security numbers being lifted?

[409] Also, at this point, what do you want me to do?

[410] What do you want me to do, Dan?

[411] They got my Social Security.

[412] We lived through a pandemic, through 9 -11, through wars.

[413] Monkeypox now.

[414] Through monkey pox, through economic downturns, through recessions, through depressions, all these different things.

[415] What do you want me to do?

[416] They took my shit, okay?

[417] All right, what do you want me to do now?

[418] Tony, I think I have.

[419] a solution.

[420] This is actually the best thing that could have happened.

[421] You know why?

[422] Because there are so many other better targets than us now.

[423] Like it used to be like, damn, they got my stuff and then they're going to use my credit, whatever.

[424] There's so many more people with better credit than me. There's so many more people with way more money than me. Go, like, there's so many people who have drawn the ire of population way worse than I have.

[425] Go get those guys hackers.

[426] You think Bezos' SSN is out there somewhere?

[427] There's no way.

[428] Absolutely.

[429] They got everybody.

[430] He doesn't even have one.

[431] Trump?

[432] Everybody does.

[433] Brad Pitt Social Security number over there.

[434] Brad Pitt?

[435] I will tell you that as we talk about this, I don't know, you know, we have seen that Bezos has feasted on our need for convenience.

[436] And I will tell you that if you have your identity stolen, I think you underestimate what an enormous inconvenience that is to try and get it back.

[437] if you tell me someone if hackers have my social security number i i can't do anything i'm helpless and you might you're right philosophically to say well i can't uh i can't be spending all my time fearing what i can't control what the hell am i going to do but i would be scared that uh that someone that with nefarious intent had all of my information one of my like most boomer qualities is when people like when especially companies ask for my social security number to sign up for like internet service or something like I will not give it to them because why do you need that I don't understand like it's not a form of ID but all of these brands like all these companies just want all of your personal data now and they're the ones like ticket master they're the ones that are getting hacked and then it's getting leaked to the dark web constantly and so whenever anyone asked for my social I'm like let me give you a call which I mean it makes me sound ancient but what are we doing very boomer but also if somebody's going to buy a house under my name game, good.

[438] I can't buy a house here anyway.

[439] So if maybe they can buy a house for me, then I can just sue them or like take it over there and be like, all right, I got a house in Manhattan, Kansas, baby.

[440] Airbnb, me and you, 50 -50 split.

[441] I'll look the other way.

[442] I don't care.

[443] I'll look the other way.

[444] We can split the profit.

[445] Just tell me who you are.

[446] We can make happen.

[447] This is one of the places where it is, one of the many, where it is that I get left behind.

[448] I don't know where I was when information became the currency that was as valuable and as sought after and coveted as any other because when you get all the control and all the money and all the information, Tony, we're all going to feel like peasants who are helpless under Google's thumb and Apple's thumb because I don't know if you guys have read it all about artificial intelligence.

[449] There are certainly enough things out there to read about that will make you scared.

[450] But the way that all of these giant outfits get artificial intelligent is by having a whole bunch of slave -like workers inputting human beings, inputting all of that information so that eventually all of us will become slaves to the information age bosses that have all the money, all the power, and all of our information.

[451] To bring us back to reality for a second, what you can do, Tony, you can do a credit freeze.

[452] So if someone tries to open a credit card account with your name, you'll get credit karma.

[453] I'll see if they opened up a Snoopy bank account.

[454] Okay, whatever.

[455] Disney account or whatever they do.

[456] I mean.

[457] Make a Circuit City credit card with my name on it.

[458] I'm like, okay.

[459] Ask Mike about the time someone stole his identity.

[460] No, no. I've filed taxes.

[461] I know.

[462] People, that is a terrible thing.

[463] I know a couple people that have happened to and you have to go through huge, length just to get back exactly what you were like to begin at zero again it's awful it's terrible but also what do you want me to do this is a great platform for as you know what joe biden's got how many months left in term run on the platform well till january january so oh yeah six i was at the beach this weekend it might be seven it's five it's math we're really good at it Let's not do this again.

[464] Let's not do this again.

[465] You know the national championship games on inauguration day?

[466] What the hell?

[467] I thought that was crazy too.

[468] The football season so long.

[469] It starts next weekend and it goes until inauguration day.

[470] We have a new president.

[471] That's crazy.

[472] January 20th or 21st this year?

[473] 21st, 20th.

[474] Why are both of those so late?

[475] Well, because of the new 12 team playoff.

[476] So the season is that's why inauguration day is so late.

[477] Then I take it back a little bit.

[478] Enaceration Day has always been like the third Monday of January or something like that.

[479] I don't know.

[480] I don't remember anything.

[481] All right.

[482] I told you.

[483] My long -term memory, it's shot.

[484] All right.

[485] Bad Day, Jessica is going to have to leave the premises here for a little bit.

[486] Sorry for being the only one in this segment who knew anything.

[487] What is that supposed to mean?

[488] We've got a major penalty.

[489] Five minutes.

[490] Deerailing.

[491] You did your best, Jess.

[492] I have been asking for a while here.

[493] for somebody to get me the gas bag of the week.

[494] They generally fail, and so I'm going to have to do it myself now.

[495] Give me the gas bag of the week intro, please.

[496] Gas bag of the week.

[497] Now, unfortunately, this is dated, and I came across it because I got a TikTok that made me legitimately laugh as a snapshot of what our show is.

[498] The gas bag of the week is Chris Cody's father, Greg Cody, want you guys to listen to this because it came across my screen and it was just so perfectly show in so many ways loudly wrong that it made me feel like this is what we should be aspiring to on gas bag of the week this is greg cody okay talking about the dolphins before last season and just completely certain that the dolphins were going to win the super bowl i mean i could i could talk for the whole show about why they're a better team and why they're better than buffalo A couple of reasons, Artau is going to stay healthy all year.

[499] He's going to play all 17 games.

[500] Okay, very good.

[501] He's not going to miss a single game.

[502] Vic Fangio is the god, the lowercase G there, no offense to anybody.

[503] He's the god of defensive coordinators, and they're ready to do it, man. Mike McDaniel digging in to his second season.

[504] He's familiar now.

[505] He's more comfortable.

[506] Yep.

[507] They're, man, they're ready.

[508] They're ready.

[509] Dolphins haven't been to a Super Bowl in almost 40 years since Dam Marino's 1984, and they're ready.

[510] They're going to do it.

[511] And you know it, by the way.

[512] I have to say that because what I'm saying, what I'm saying is more than just my opinion, you can etch it in stone, bring it to a tablet, put it on your back like your Moses, walk into a bank and deposit that tablet.

[513] Because I'm talking the truth here.

[514] I'm spitting it.

[515] Damn right.

[516] This coffee.

[517] And you know it.

[518] And you know it.

[519] It's crazy.

[520] They didn't win a playoff game.

[521] He still thinks, feels and acts as if he got it right.

[522] Best offense in the league.

[523] I mean, it's close.

[524] No, that's not close.

[525] Not winning a playoff game is not etched and stone deposited at the bank.

[526] I would like to see your father try to go to the bank and deposit a tablet.

[527] I feel like he comes from a time when that's how money was deposited.

[528] I like the Flintstones.

[529] Juju went and I thought for a second like, you have the tablet ready?

[530] Then I realized, no, it's just that column that Greg wrote years and years ago.

[531] Trade Marino Collins.

[532] Yes, the unthinkable, a marino trade.

[533] He still defends that.

[534] That is excellent work by Greg Cody digging in on something and being that wrong and doesn't feel like he's wrong somehow.

[535] How was that possible?

[536] Do you realize what a magic trick McDaniel pulled off in making the offense so much fun that people feel like they won the Super Bowl even though they didn't win a playoff game?

[537] Last year did, I mean, it's as good as I felt as a Dolphins fan, and we didn't win a playoffs.

[538] game.

[539] It's crazy.

[540] But like, let's be honest.

[541] I always get into this with NBA fans.

[542] Like, when you root for a bad team, like, I'm sorry.

[543] You don't get to be like, we didn't win it.

[544] Like, you had a good year.

[545] Houston last year in the NBA.

[546] You should be ecstatic as a Rockets fan.

[547] You had a great year for your standards for where you've been the last few years.

[548] And so for the Dolphins, if you're a Dolphins fans, absolutely you should be happy about last season.

[549] For the first time ever, or in a long time, you feel like you got your quarterback.

[550] you have the best if not the best wide receiver in the game pretty much right he's right it wasn't he voted the best player in the game the best player in the game by the players like and you got a coach that everyone's like yeah he's pretty smart why y 'all mad because they didn't win a playoff game well no it's not just that though i would say to you that part of the issue with all of this which is super interesting to me if you're going to keep focusing and obsessing on money and the salary cap is that was their best window they had two cheaper than Mahomes.

[551] Now Mahomes makes less than Tua and you still got to go through those guys.

[552] You've had Mahomes' receiver the last two years and you can't get through those guys and now they're also built in a way that they have more value at quarterback than you do.

[553] You had the quarterback value advantage.

[554] You don't have that anymore either.

[555] And still that team that you're trying to go through.

[556] So I understand that you're hopeful but that was your best shot.

[557] I got to be honest, if you're in the AFC right now, it's like being in the East in the 90s.

[558] Like, your hope is that maybe Mahomes retires or spray his ankle or something.

[559] But, like, if he's healthy, like, I don't care how much what your salary cap situation is.

[560] Is that your McConaug again?

[561] That's been the AFC for, like, the last 20 years.

[562] It's like, I hope this is the season Tom Brady, like, you know, sprains his knee or something.

[563] And then it happened in the Steelers won the Super Bowl that year.

[564] Yeah, it can't, it can happen, but the probabilities are, that that was their best shot.

[565] The best window is when you've got the quarterback at value.

[566] I hope our video and technical equipment work well enough so that we can bring you that to an interview at some point during his career.

[567] I want to close the loop on something with the mean that we talked about last Friday.

[568] It was not Raygun.

[569] We talked about it on Friday the day before the U .S. women's national team gold medal game against Brazil in which they won, one to zero.

[570] But while we were talking about this, we brought up that the U .S. men's national team was in the process of potentially making a hire for their new manager.

[571] And there are reports out today that they are going to hire Maricio Ponchitino.

[572] Pochitino, thank you.

[573] Is that the person that Mike Ryan said was a, quote, career loser on Friday's show?

[574] Absolutely the dude that Mike Ryan called a career loser, which again, I would point to the U .S. men's national team soccer.

[575] In the same way I point to the Dolphins, like, who the hell are you to all of a sudden have like, he's a career loser like you should be happy to have that career loser that is a massive step up of what you've had for the last however umpteen years here and so hey man baby steps guess what news flash where's my camera that's not working you're not going to win the world cup anyway USA it's there's nothing that can happen in the next two years there's not a single manager in the world you can hire that can get you to a world cup final let alone win the whole thing So how about you just embrace the journey?

[576] Embrace the process.

[577] Let Maurizio Pachiti, you know, come in here, sprinkle his little European magic, and maybe, just maybe you guys can be competitive and not be out here embarrassing yourselves like you always do.

[578] Expectations are a hell of a thing, because going into the Olympics, I thought if U .S. women's soccer team wins one knockout stage game, like, I'll be happy.

[579] Like, that's quite a turnaround for them.

[580] Like, good for them.

[581] And then they go on to go in the gold medal match with their former Chelsea manager as their new manager.

[582] And they win.

[583] And I'm like, well, of course we won.

[584] We're the greatest team ever.

[585] And meanwhile, like two weeks prior, I was like, I hope we win all our group stage games.

[586] It's just a funny place to be for both of these teams, like the different sides of the coin, the men's team has such different expectations on them.

[587] So when they hire their former Chelsea manager to be their new manager, it's like, like you said, win a knockout stage game in a World Cup and you're going to be the hero for.

[588] Forever.

[589] Yeah, just make it out of the group stage.

[590] Also, to your point about expectations, well, Nick Saban agrees with you, because that's the number one thing that's destroying young quarterbacks in the NFL, according to Nick Saban.

[591] Expectations.

[592] From the first episode, did you watch the second episode of Hard Knows?

[593] It was so boring, Jess.

[594] I know.

[595] It was so incredibly boring.

[596] I felt ashamed that this episode had the Hard Knocks brand on it.

[597] They should have called it soft knocks or medium -sized knocks.

[598] No Knox.

[599] Knockless.

[600] I did like.

[601] Okay, so we mentioned it, I think yesterday, but Hard Knocks was late to upload on Max, which was, I think on press.

[602] I don't know if it's ever happened.

[603] We can relate to that.

[604] But it did.

[605] I don't think we've ever missed a Max delivery window.

[606] Max always gets our stuff on time.

[607] We should ask Taylor.

[608] I don't know if that's true.

[609] Power is a different story, but keep going, Jesse.

[610] I don't know what I was saying.

[611] Yep.

[612] That's what happened sometimes.

[613] Yep.

[614] I'm familiar with how that happens.

[615] I watched the first half of the episode yesterday as I was getting ready.

[616] And it just didn't capture my attention the same way the first episode did with the whole storyline of Jonathan Owens going to France to see Simone Biles and Cole Benedict, the Canadian guy, having the bald eagle speedo on singing in front of everyone.

[617] And then at the end he gets hurt.

[618] Oh my God, the storylines.

[619] But yeah, episode two.

[620] So I'll tell you the highlights of episode two.

[621] Jonathan Owens comes back.

[622] They actually paid for footage of Simone Biles.

[623] And I was like, that's cost you $8 billion.

[624] I would have rather you send a cameraman with Jonathan Owens just had it trained on him reacting in the crowd.

[625] That would have been more meaningful to the story and a lot more cost -efficient.

[626] The other thing was the wide receiver rookie whose name escapes me. Roma Dunzee.

[627] Worst song ever.

[628] He sang Kiss -Kiss.

[629] Oh, I thought it.

[630] Kiss -Kiss.

[631] Yeah, he's saying Kiss -Kiss.

[632] With T. Payne and Chris Brown, which, by the way, I watched the video of T. Payne explaining that the original lyrics were a lot raunchier, more risque, and Chris Brown's manager was like, you're going to ruin his image and his brand.

[633] And so that's why they changed it to kiss, kiss.

[634] What was it before?

[635] It's like, something about like thick thighs and big, yeah.

[636] Like, I was like, oh, wow, that would have been a bigger hit than what it was.

[637] What would be your rookie karaoke song if you were an NFL player?

[638] Like, I'm Amin al -Hasson, my signing bone.

[639] is like $2 million.

[640] Jessica, as luck would have it, I actually had to sing a song at training camp when I was a rookie, even though I'd been there for a year, but they told me your rookie status has not expired until the first regular season game of the new season.

[641] So they made me sing, and because one of the coaches, shout out to my guy, Phil Weber, decided that I looked like Sammy Davis Jr. They made me sing the...

[642] I know.

[643] It was, well, you know, Phil wasn't known for his great lookalikes, okay?

[644] They made me sing the Candy Man by Sammy Davis Jr. Shibwang, wang.

[645] They thought you looked like Sammy Davis Jr.?

[646] Not they.

[647] It was Phil Weber and Alvin Gentry.

[648] And I think Alvin didn't believe it.

[649] He just went along with the joke because it was funny.

[650] And did you do it well?

[651] Can I see it?

[652] I had to sing in front of a restaurant full of people who were not with us.

[653] All right.

[654] Well, let me see.

[655] Let me hear his McConaughey so people can hear just how bad, I mean, can can be when trying to impersonate people.

[656] So his McConaughey is not any good.

[657] I did hear a little Sammy Davis Jr. in there, though.

[658] Let's see if we can get that song for a mean now and see if he can summon the Candyman and Sammy Davis Jr. Because that is a fairly easy impersonation to do as far as impersonations go.

[659] I'm not saying I'm not saying impersonations are easy in general.

[660] I'm just saying, Sammy, like Christopher Walkin, Sammy is easier than most.

[661] Please tell me you sang it like Tommy Davidson.

[662] Well, here's the problem, Roy.

[663] At that point, I had never heard the song.

[664] Oh.

[665] So I was like, I don't know the song, so I'm not singing it.

[666] And you know what these assholes did?

[667] Someone came out like, we got the lyrics printed out.

[668] I'm like, oh, come on, man. I think you need to at this point do a little Candyman as Sammy Davis Jr. Do you not?

[669] Can I hear a little?

[670] Oh, okay.

[671] To the Candyman The Candyman Oh, the Candyman can Okay, okay Sounds like it, kill the music All right We'll kill the music All right, here we go Who can take the sunrise Sprinkle it would do Cover it with chocolate And a miracle of zoo The Candyman Oh, the Candyman can Candyman How did it go over?

[672] How did it go over?

[673] over at camp?

[674] They booed and laughed and threw things.

[675] Oh, man. Same man seemed him out there.

[676] I'm trying to remember who.

[677] Alando Tucker was a rookie.

[678] And I can't remember what he had to sing.

[679] And DJ Strawberry, Dall Strawberry's son was another rookie.

[680] He had to sing something.

[681] Wait, can we go back like two minutes so I can just say the rat pack?

[682] All right, continue.

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