The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz XX
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[12] Why are you listening to this show?
[13] The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Lebitard podcast.
[14] I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that.
[15] In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.
[16] I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there.
[17] That hasn't happened to you guys?
[18] I've done it.
[19] And now, Here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar.
[20] We're going to onboard David Samson and Adnan here, and they have a top five today that I already took issue with.
[21] We'll explain that in a moment, but Adnan is an Emmy Award winning host for MLB Network.
[22] David Samson hosts nothing personal, as baseball chaps, you all know that.
[23] So I'm going to start with a baseball question.
[24] And really something that's sad, which is Mike Trout.
[25] He's barely played.
[26] we this is one of the recognized as arguably his generation's greatest baseball player and we're seeing his body betray him.
[27] Is this is this a deal where a change of scenery will all of a sudden make him healthy?
[28] What is going on here with with Mike Trout, Adnan?
[29] We begin with you.
[30] Adnan, you're muted.
[31] Adnan, I'm going to take it right back and I'm going to begin with David now.
[32] David, you have the floor.
[33] Here's the problem with Mike Trout.
[34] It is no longer a situation where you say, oh, he's just injury prone, it's going to get better.
[35] He's played one game after the All -Star break in three of the last four seasons.
[36] Think about that.
[37] That would be a stat of the day.
[38] So we don't have to do it because I'll do it.
[39] Stad of the day, stat of the day.
[40] So where is this going?
[41] Where is this going with Mike Trout?
[42] If you were - It means that Mike Trout's now closer to Don Maddingly than he is to one of the best players who ever played.
[43] So give me the front office opinion.
[44] If you're doing an eval, let's say you have.
[45] have a different budget and you're approaching this much differently than you did from your time down here in South Florida.
[46] You guys were buyers occasionally.
[47] The Delgado move was a good one.
[48] You guys went forward occasionally.
[49] You criticized me for all the buys we did where we traded away prospects who ended up being good.
[50] Dude, let me tell you, my favorite era of Marlins' baseball were the few years after you won the World Series where you went for it.
[51] You made the La Ducca trade, the great trade with the Dodgers.
[52] You went after Delgado.
[53] You guys were competing for it, and that's all I really ever wanted from it.
[54] I gave you some credit there, but geez, all right, so I'm taking it so.
[55] Your show is called nothing personal.
[56] Remember Carlos Lee?
[57] I do remember it, and you guys, that was a good example.
[58] Like, I'm good with you guys going forward and failing.
[59] So, separate yourself from how you used to do business, because we just highlighted the success, you did a lot of sales and capitulated.
[60] So, let's say you're the Mariners, all right, a team that's right there.
[61] You got a good pitching staff.
[62] You definitely need a bat.
[63] And say this is next scene.
[64] season.
[65] How do you evaluate his talent like Mike Trout?
[66] You have his contract, obviously.
[67] But where do you project this player?
[68] You just mentioned Don Mattingly.
[69] And that would give you pause, certainly.
[70] Well, Don Maddenly was a certain Hall of Famer, except he just couldn't be healthy.
[71] He hurt his back.
[72] And I think about 213 million over six years.
[73] And I asked this question on nothing personal.
[74] I ask it of any baseball fan who loves baseball.
[75] Would you sign Mike Trout to 213 million over six years right now?
[76] Did you hear Ednanberg check his microphone?
[77] I apologize.
[78] David was making an excellent point.
[79] I just wanted to double tech, a little quiet, check, check, check.
[80] Okay, I am here as well.
[81] Listen, I'm with Simpson.
[82] He's Don Madeline now, man. Three -time MVP, and now you've got these injuries.
[83] You know, I guess he's a Hall of Famer because how many three -time MVPs are there.
[84] But to your point, Mike, last off -season, remember there was rumors, stuff being leaked out?
[85] David remembers this.
[86] The Angels basically saying, hey, we wouldn't be averse to trading, Mike, if he was open to that, but he has all the cards in his hand, like wink, wink, Mike.
[87] If you want to wave this thing, and everyone says, look at the Phillies.
[88] He's from Millville, New Jersey.
[89] He grew up at Phillies fans, South Jersey.
[90] We know Dave Dombrowski wants to buy, bye, bye, John Middleton.
[91] So the time to make a move for Mike Trout would have been a season ago for the Phillies.
[92] Now he's really damaged goods.
[93] Like, I feel horrible for Mike, and I feel horrible for the Angels.
[94] This guy has only played 48 % of games over the past four years going into this year, and he barely played this year.
[95] It's really frustrated.
[96] Did we just wake you up?
[97] Like, let's be honest here.
[98] You had the computer troubles.
[99] You battle through flam.
[100] Bedhead.
[101] It's not.
[102] The energy's there.
[103] Energy's there.
[104] But the flam is also there.
[105] What is you doing in the shower this morning?
[106] I have young kids up since.
[107] I've been up since seven, but I look disheveled.
[108] So I didn't just wake up.
[109] But I look like hell because I've been up since seven.
[110] I have young kids.
[111] And I've kicked them out.
[112] I'm in a hotel in Boston.
[113] I said, you guys have to stay outside here.
[114] I'm on the Dan Lebuttard show.
[115] But no, I did not just wake up.
[116] But I look like hell.
[117] They're just in the hallway.
[118] They're just wondering.
[119] Joking, coding.
[120] I came to my wife.
[121] They're down having breakfast.
[122] I'll show you the eggs.
[123] We got eggs over here.
[124] Let me see those eggs.
[125] Hotel eggs.
[126] It can't be.
[127] Great scrambled hotel.
[128] Ah, there we go.
[129] Got cheese on that?
[130] Fantastic.
[131] Before we get into the top five, which is top five motion picture soundtracks, which has already got me fired up, I want to talk to you about the 90s in general.
[132] I am revisiting the 90s right now, seeing some movies that I, it may be seen once in my or bits and pieces of.
[133] I hope you're going to say wild things, Mike, but go ahead.
[134] Dude, I'd watch Wild.
[135] I don't need a refresher course on Wild Things.
[136] Yeah, I burned Wild Things out through my most formative years.
[137] But I revisited films this week like Crimson Tide, which I gave five stars.
[138] That was an absolute banger of a movie.
[139] I watched Backdraft, which, you know, doesn't quite hold up, but it's got an unbelievable cast.
[140] And I started watching, because I wasn't aware of this, Backdraft 2, which was made in 2019, wasn't, there was a sequel in which many of the cast reprised their roles.
[141] So I'm just, I wanted to ask you generally, how do you feel about the 90s?
[142] Because if you look at the best picture nominees, you can make a very strong argument for the 90s being the golden age of cinema.
[143] Listen, the 70s for me, Mike, is the best ever to be specific.
[144] It's 1967 and 97, Bonnie and Clyde, the graduate, the first two godfathers, taxi driver, Main Streets, etc. But you're right, the 90s is outstanding because that was that great indie wave and you had Pulp Fiction and Fargo and Secrets and Lies and the Big Lobowski.
[145] And, like, filmmakers taking chances and students willing to do that.
[146] Now this era right now, it kind of reminds me the 80s.
[147] It's a lot of recycled movies and a lack of inspiration and superhero movies, et cetera.
[148] So 90s movies I have a real soft spot for me. Those are some of my favorite films.
[149] Magnolia back in 1999, Goodfellas in 1990.
[150] I'm sure David agrees with me. The 90s was a great decade.
[151] I can't imagine that you think the 80s were full of recycled movies.
[152] Just start and end with John Hughes, every one of those.
[153] those was original.
[154] Every one of those was all about what it is to grow up.
[155] And if you're an 80s child, I don't think you view the 80s as recycled at all.
[156] It was the sequel generation.
[157] You can ask anybody knows anything about movies.
[158] The 80s was when they had these big budget movies, blockbusters, they make one, two, look at Rocky, one, two, three, four.
[159] I mean, this was the era of the 80s of recycled sequels.
[160] The 90s was more original filmmaking, Miramax, and the rise of Harvey Weiss and, et cetera.
[161] We all know what Harvey off the field, horrible guy, but as far as Cinematically speaking, the 90s is a real boon.
[162] I can't believe you think the 80s was like a rich, fertile era.
[163] There's no way that was.
[164] You ask anybody, 70s and 90s, great.
[165] 80s, no. I've become a real admirer.
[166] I was when he was with us.
[167] Tony Scott tragically took his own life.
[168] I'm revisiting a lot of his films right now because I love generally the narratives that he established, especially with action movies.
[169] He found a way to make you care about characters in ways that action movies all too often miss the mark.
[170] I think Man on Fire is a premier example of how to get you invested in characters and still have a kick -ass action movie.
[171] Crimson Tide, when people recount all the great movies that Tony Scott did, I think should be possibly regarded at the very top of the heap because you have Tony Scott at the top of his game.
[172] You have Zimmer scoring at the top of his game.
[173] You have Danzel and Gene Hackman, who might be the most underrated actor of his generation because he didn't, The roles that he chose were interesting in that he never really wore prosthetics.
[174] He never really went for big historical academy cash grabs.
[175] We're talking Denzel or Hackman?
[176] We're talking about Hackman in particular because...
[177] Mississippi Burning?
[178] Yeah, Hackman generally in his career, avoided prosthetics, avoided going for roles that you would deem Oscar bait, and he still knocked it out of the park.
[179] And you had two actors that were playing off one another in spectacular ways.
[180] and I think it holds up, especially with everything in the news stream, and then I look back at the year that was 1995, and I saw on the 96 Academy Awards, Babe got nominated for Best Picture, which Babe is a fine movie.
[181] Crimson Tide did not.
[182] It seemed as though Crimson Tide kind of got left by the wayside as all these other movies.
[183] Braveheart won that year.
[184] I think Crimson Tide is actually better than Braveheart.
[185] Crimson Tide is an incredible movie.
[186] You should all rewatch it.
[187] I'm begging for you guys have a good opinion.
[188] A favorable opinion.
[189] I love this crusade towards Crimson.
[190] I get like this about movies.
[191] I get like this about heat.
[192] I get like this about collateral.
[193] When I find a movie that still resonates and connects and everything is great.
[194] He can't get out of Crimson Tide.
[195] Crimson Tide.
[196] You guys love it?
[197] Five stars?
[198] I happen to love Crimson Tide, but I do have it behind Braveheart.
[199] And although now looking back, I try not to watch Braveheart or think about Braveheart, but at the time, I had that well.
[200] I was not a babe fan personally.
[201] That'll do pick.
[202] I think it's because I'm kosher.
[203] Gene Hackman's best role, clearly, the birdcage.
[204] He was great.
[205] Gene Hackman was in a mid -90s heater.
[206] You have Denzel, like, realizing that, you know, like, I've gotten this, I've gotten the academy attention.
[207] Like, let me go for biggest movie star on the planet's at, see if that's achievable.
[208] And I think everybody did a bang -up job here.
[209] All right.
[210] So let's get to - You don't even mention no way out.
[211] Yeah, no way out, great.
[212] Listen, unforgiven, obviously.
[213] if we want to go, French connection, the conversation.
[214] I'll say this, Mike, for Crimson Tide.
[215] There's some incredible scenes of Denzel Hackman just shouting each other.
[216] Like, Hall of Fame shouting, Gene Hackman is A -plus.
[217] A lot of racial tension that by the end, well, throughout the movie is subtle, and then by the end becomes a little bit more overt.
[218] But I think you can make an argument in terms of, like, workplace dramas.
[219] This is a great film.
[220] There's a lot of great supporting cast.
[221] Gendolfini understands the assignment, and is seemingly, too excited for it.
[222] It's just a great, great film.
[223] All right, the top five's here.
[224] We'll begin with Samson.
[225] That's how we do it, right, Chris?
[226] We did.
[227] You.
[228] Yeah.
[229] This, I have a real bone to pick with this, and I'll say it on the front end.
[230] The soundtracks, the soundtrack has to be an original motion picture soundtrack.
[231] There are a lot of great soundtracks, especially in the 90s.
[232] Let me, let me get my argument off the ground.
[233] A preemptive crapping of our election before Samson, I've even spoken.
[234] Well, I, because I've made my own list because I was aware of the loopholes that you guys used.
[235] I love of preemptive crap.
[236] There's a, there's, I did it right before the show.
[237] Your, your soundtracks are more compilation albums.
[238] And I think an original motion picture soundtrack has to support the art, has to be created for the film itself.
[239] Original music meant to supplement the film.
[240] And now, you can get music from the time that helps supplement a movie, and that could be great.
[241] But I think for this discussion, you have to provide that caveat.
[242] And I think that you could have had a top five that was of top five original movie songs or soundtracks, that's great.
[243] But this top five is top five movie soundtracks.
[244] All right, David, let's get underway.
[245] But leave me enough time.
[246] Leave me the 40 seconds to do the OSTs.
[247] I'll go right through it and just tell you number five across the universe.
[248] Across the universe.
[249] It's Beatles songs, but it's sung.
[250] Wait a minute.
[251] This counts for you, Mike.
[252] It's sung by Jim Sturge.
[253] It's Nevin Rachel Wood.
[254] So I assume that counts.
[255] No, is it great?
[256] I love the movie, love the soundtrack, not an original motion picture soundtrack.
[257] These are Beatles songs.
[258] It's more of a jukebox.
[259] So it has to be songs sung by people originally written like the dirty dancing soundtrack.
[260] The only one that counts is hungry eyes.
[261] David, I know your top five.
[262] You have a ton of jukebox musicals in there.
[263] It's just like doesn't count in my opinion.
[264] Doesn't count.
[265] He's going to hate our lists.
[266] I don't care.
[267] Number four, the big chill.
[268] Awesome.
[269] No, no. Give him a big.
[270] horn.
[271] Big Chill's awesome, David.
[272] Go ahead.
[273] There's only one horn.
[274] I'm not even going to defend it.
[275] I will defend number of how about.
[276] Incredible soundtrack.
[277] Number three is a movie called Harold and Maud.
[278] Harold and Maud is a movie with Ruth Gordon and a young boy whose name escapes me. Adnan, like, Bud, his name is Bud somebody.
[279] It's about an octogenarian in a relationship with a younger boy, not inappropriate.
[280] And the soundtrack is Cat Stevens.
[281] And it is a fantastic movie, fantastic soundtrack.
[282] Hal Ashby, the director, very underrated.
[283] Obviously, made a lot of great 70s films.
[284] It's a good call.
[285] Bud Cort.
[286] Bud Cort was his name.
[287] That's right.
[288] Not that old.
[289] Number two, this has original songs, Mike.
[290] So this wins Moulin Rouge.
[291] It's got some mashups, but it does have some songs written just for the movie.
[292] That's a jukebox musical.
[293] It's a jukebox music.
[294] They're singing smells like teen spirit.
[295] What are you doing?
[296] What about come what may?
[297] There are some original.
[298] There are some original songs on there, but largely that is.
[299] is what is referred to as a jukebox musical.
[300] I don't think that you can come up with the top five list of soundtracks that are all original songs, the entire soundtrack.
[301] David, David, like the most romantic part of the movie, they're singing Elton John's your song.
[302] I know, I love that.
[303] I watch that scene over and over again.
[304] Do the can can can.
[305] And number one, Jim Broadband, I love you.
[306] Number one, almost famous.
[307] That's not disputable.
[308] Stillwater, that's some original songs.
[309] Yes.
[310] But it's also derivative of the And there's plenty of songs that Cameron Crow was a fan of that's in there.
[311] So it's more of a compilation soundtrack, in my opinion.
[312] But anybody would suggest if you're doing just a catch -all for motion picture soundtracks, that would be up there in anybody's list.
[313] And it's a great film.
[314] It's my number one.
[315] It's your favorite movie.
[316] Yeah, it's your favorite movie ever.
[317] And I think it counts because it does have to the red shirt.
[318] I do not really crude up is just like in the only one that's in the focus.
[319] He's in the front.
[320] Yeah.
[321] All right.
[322] Let me 40 seconds, okay.
[323] I will, Mike.
[324] Don't worry.
[325] You're going to hate my list, too.
[326] Philips Seymour Hop and Lester Banks, all -time great.
[327] Number five, it's basically just one song when they play it over and over.
[328] Radio Rahim!
[329] It's do the right thing.
[330] Fight the power over and over the soundtrack.
[331] Blazing in 1989, the soundtrack, the anthem of the summer.
[332] David, great song, great soundtrack.
[333] Not known for its soundtrack, though.
[334] Number four, train spotting.
[335] Also not known for its soundtrack.
[336] It is.
[337] Iggy Pop right out of the gate.
[338] Lost for Life, Mike.
[339] I need like that's great great soundtrack.
[340] Loss for Life's not written for train spotting.
[341] Correct.
[342] but it is a great soundtrack, which I knew you'd back me up on.
[343] Lou Reed, also in the soundtrack.
[344] Number three, you're going to hate this one.
[345] This is a jukebox musical.
[346] I'll agree with that one.
[347] American graffiti.
[348] Great.
[349] Great, 60s, 70s music, awesome soundtrack.
[350] Number two, I'm completely with David.
[351] Motown for Life.
[352] Big Chill.
[353] Awesome.
[354] It loves the Motown.
[355] And number one, Mike's going to hate it.
[356] People are going to love it, though.
[357] I'm telling you right now.
[358] 30th anniversary, one of the great films of all time.
[359] A great soundtrack from Quentin Tarantino.
[360] It made Neil Diamond cool.
[361] Paul Fiction.
[362] Neil Diamond made Neil Diamond cool?
[363] All right.
[364] So just let's get that out of the way.
[365] The Red Sox made Neil Diamond cool.
[366] No, Neil Diamond was, saving Silverman might have made Neil Diamond cool.
[367] When you compare number ones here, it's clear that David won because almost famous is about that soundtrack.
[368] Pulp Fiction is not about that soundtrack.
[369] It just happens to have a few good songs.
[370] If all the chips are stuck together.
[371] It's one nacho if they're all stuck together.
[372] Mike, I need your list badly because I can't think of five movies that would qualify with your rules.
[373] So like non -Disney division.
[374] because we were having a big argument about how Phil Collins absolutely killed it with Tarzan and I decided that if I included Disney in this it would all be Disney soundtrack so that's a topic for another day before you give your list Mike I really hope you have one which is all just like orchestral music I mean it's all just Hans Zimmer's score I'll love it go ahead There are some like really good I should we'll do scores another day Number five Number five Greece Tell me more Tell me more I got chills They're multiplying They're multiplying So for number four this Cape Crusader had so many great soundtracks that I wore out when I was a kid.
[375] So I had to basically decide one Batman song, one Batman album to eliminate the genre.
[376] I was torn between Batman 89, Batman and Robin, but I settled on Batman Forever as the number four.
[377] Interesting, okay.
[378] Number three, super problematic.
[379] Let's not stay here, but Space Jam was an absolute.
[380] Peter!
[381] Peter!
[382] Number two, underrated, Black Panther, OST.
[383] And number one, Saturday Night Fever.
[384] Shame on you for now.
[385] Spacious watching.
[386] Get Richard Duthrine.
[387] Above the rim.
[388] Juice.
[389] A bottle of black and then Black Panthers.
[390] Wow.
[391] Above the rim, great one.
[392] Outta boy, Jujia.
[393] Summer's the best time to run the way you want.
[394] Dial it up with new challenges and programs and bring your workouts with you to make the most of outside sunny days.
[395] Stugats, guess what?
[396] What?
[397] You know what you can do with Peloton?
[398] What?
[399] Get the app.
[400] Go outside, ride a bike.
[401] Well, I thought you ride Peloton inside.
[402] Well, you do.
[403] You can ride Peloton inside if it's a rainy day or.
[404] or if it's cloud or you just don't want to get outside.
[405] Maybe it's too hot.
[406] It's summertime.
[407] Go outside.
[408] I record a lot from my office with you.
[409] And you've noticed it's sitting there, yet it hasn't been used.
[410] Well, now's the time.
[411] Summer's the best time to start.
[412] That push, Stugats.
[413] Right.
[414] Can we do it together?
[415] Not on the same bike, but we could join a class together.
[416] I used to do that.
[417] We used to do that.
[418] We used to have Guillemotan.
[419] I'd invite people.
[420] We'd all take a class together.
[421] Okay.
[422] So I think you're starting to get concerned about my health and my age, Billy.
[423] I sense that with you.
[424] We're beyond starting.
[425] Okay.
[426] Whatever road lies ahead.
[427] Your training starts here with Peloton Tread and Tread Plus.
[428] It's not just a bike, a treadmill, too.
[429] I'm going to go outside.
[430] I'm going to get in shape.
[431] I'm going to do it with Billy Gill.
[432] I want to be in your class.
[433] I want you to be my instructor.
[434] You don't want to spend more time with me. No, I can schedule a class and we can ride together.
[435] I won't be the instructor of the class.
[436] We can have Camila could be our instructor.
[437] I like the Grateful Dead class.
[438] My daughter, she uses the Peloton.
[439] She was on it once and an instructor who was playing Grateful Dead tunes.
[440] Let's do that.
[441] Okay.
[442] Why don't we go for a run?
[443] Outside, guided run.
[444] Peloton.
[445] Me and you, that's something we can do together.
[446] Okay.
[447] Turn on the app.
[448] Me and you, go outside.
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[451] All right.
[452] Don Lebertard.
[453] Dan is getting to his microphone real quick.
[454] Sorry about that.
[455] Thank you, Stugats.
[456] I appreciate it.
[457] My apologies.
[458] I had to run out for a moment.
[459] Stugats.
[460] Did you eat something?
[461] I did.
[462] I grabbed some turkey.
[463] You can hear it in my mouth.
[464] Yeah, you made it seem like you were doing something urgent and said you were just stuff.
[465] I was doing something urgent.
[466] I went upstairs and grabbed some turkey.
[467] And then I ran back down.
[468] here.
[469] I'm sorry that I'm late.
[470] It's very unprofessional.
[471] Why do you have an entire turkey leg in your pocket?
[472] I do.
[473] I walk around here like it's, uh, like it's Disney World with one giant piece of turkey at all times.
[474] This is the Dan Lebatar show with a Stugat.
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[478] So Mike, I want to get into basketball, Olympic basketball with you because you're wearing the hat.
[479] But I just gotten a text during the break from my buddy Warren and all it said was shower beers are amazing and then I turned back to this math that Tony was doing and speaking of amazing all right I want Tony to explain right but when you get to the part about how often you hang out or nights per week I want you to pause for me okay okay but give me the math on you figuring out how many shower beers you have had since and we're just going to keep it this way since you've turned 21 years old.
[480] Yes, of course, because you should, you can only drink after.
[481] Of course, even in the shower, the rules are you can only drink at 21.
[482] Exactly.
[483] So, prime going out years 21 to 27.
[484] So we're given a six -year sample here of going out.
[485] I feel like we could agree, though, normally college years are the biggest years of going out where you're going out multiple potential.
[486] In theory, but is he definitely?
[487] It's an outlier.
[488] Again, we do this for the average, not the outliers.
[489] So, 52 weeks in a year last time I checked.
[490] Right.
[491] We've got about two and a half night out per week.
[492] Pause.
[493] You're talking.
[494] First of all, every single week, that rule, you mean your weekend already booked?
[495] Every single week from 21 to 27, you're going out every single weekend and then one other night?
[496] Two and a half is key because Wednesday was boogies, Thursday was grow.
[497] Thank you.
[498] And then you had your weekends, too.
[499] Also, you had wing at Wednesdays at Flannies.
[500] Yes.
[501] Zero exception.
[502] Tumble week Tuesdays.
[503] Every single weekend.
[504] Wing it Wednesday counts as going out?
[505] All planning is going out.
[506] Because you're having beers.
[507] Yeah, you're slamming.
[508] Responsibly.
[509] You're counting going out as any social gathering where you're having a drink, not like going to a club.
[510] I'm with Jess.
[511] I think of pre -gaming as a major event, right?
[512] If I'm drinking in the shower, I better be staying out until 5 a. No, I'm not, I don't drink in the shower to pregame.
[513] I drink in the shower because I find that beer enjoyable.
[514] Okay.
[515] This is on the basis of pre -gaming.
[516] We fundamentally disagree on the premise of shower beers, and that that's fine.
[517] For the sake of Tony's argument, it's a pregame shower base.
[518] I do it because I like it.
[519] There's more math involved here, too, though.
[520] Tony likes it too.
[521] I'm getting in the weeds here, but Tony, is it 21 through 27 or stopping at 27?
[522] Stopping at 27.
[523] So 21 through 27.
[524] It's a same thing.
[525] Because if it's through 27, it's actually seven years.
[526] And you got an extra year there.
[527] If you do the middle.
[528] Okay, well, I did it to 27.
[529] Okay.
[530] So six years.
[531] Stopping at 20.
[532] Yeah.
[533] So we got six years somewhere here.
[534] Back out of the weeds.
[535] Your 26th Eve birthday where you turn 27 is the last night.
[536] right correct yeah so you're not born one years old right exactly although some some people consider like the nine months that you were in the womb hmm 52 weeks two and a half nights out per week again Friday Saturday but then you can also mix in a Thursday Wednesday Monday depending on what the situation was we minus two weeks out if you're sick right something else happens I love this you know like you have to have a buffer of two weeks where you're not at your A game going out right otherwise that's crazy exactly that's too much number for you 50 easier to multiply with.
[537] I don't know what that's supposed to mean.
[538] But so we've got an average of about, remember, 1 .25 shower beers per week.
[539] So not every time I'm going out, am I having a shower beer?
[540] Shout out to the squiggly equal signs.
[541] You don't see that many more times after like college.
[542] Exactly.
[543] I'm definitely paying attention.
[544] So 1 .25 shower beers per week on two and a half nights out per week.
[545] So we may not be having a shower beer every time we go out, but we're averaging about 1 .25 shower beers per week.
[546] So there are times, you're going to have more than one in the shower.
[547] No, that's half the time.
[548] Guys, if he goes out 2 .5 times a week and he's only having 1 .25 shower beers a week, that means half the time he goes out during the week he's having a shower beer.
[549] That's an incredible cadence, by the way.
[550] I look at a shower beer as a treat.
[551] This is something that only happens a handful of times.
[552] Let the subject turn to shower beers and all of a sudden a mathematician over there, Chris Cote.
[553] You're having 60 shower beers a year, give a take?
[554] So we're looking at, don't jump ahead.
[555] I've never had that many of my life.
[556] So we've got about 50 weeks per year that we're going out.
[557] Obviously, we minus the two weeks.
[558] So we're at 50 weeks per year at about two and a half nights out per week, right?
[559] Okay.
[560] Which gives us the possibility for 125 shower beers.
[561] Okay.
[562] We divide that by what we have an average of per week on beers, which is 1 .25 shower beers per week with 125 possibilities of shower beers.
[563] Why didn't you just multiply 50 by 1 .25?
[564] Yeah.
[565] Because I had to show.
[566] It doesn't have to look as impressive.
[567] Exactly.
[568] Thank you.
[569] It's a beautiful mind.
[570] It's not just two equations.
[571] I can't.
[572] You want me to put just 600?
[573] Is that what you want?
[574] You just wanted me to write 600?
[575] No, that's not how we do things.
[576] A man showing his work.
[577] Okay.
[578] Thank you, Chris.
[579] One, uh, a hundred and 25 shower beer possibilities to.
[580] SPBs.
[581] Yes.
[582] SPBs, thank you.
[583] Uh, 1 .25 shower beers per week equals about roughly 100 shower beers per year.
[584] Now we multiply 100 shower beers per year on average by six years that we did 21 to 27.
[585] We're looking at seven.
[586] if it's through 27.
[587] Yep.
[588] 600 shower beers over a six -year span.
[589] Again, that's not every time you're having a shower beer when you go out.
[590] That's 1 .25 shower beers per the 52 weeks per the six years.
[591] I'm a little confused because I thought we were going to you on why the shower beer just hits better.
[592] Hmm.
[593] How many calories in a middle of light?
[594] 95.
[595] Can we go back?
[596] How did you get the 100?
[597] Per 12.
[598] How many ounces?
[599] 12.
[600] Tony, where did 100 come from?
[601] Where did 100 come from?
[602] 100.
[603] Certainly less than premium regular beer.
[604] We divide 125 shower beer possibilities by the 1 .25 average shower beers per week, which gets us to 100 shower beers per year.
[605] Let's just agree that it's an approximation because some people just don't drink backwash.
[606] It's also approximately 57 ,600 calories you've taken in just in the shower.
[607] Yeah, but the shower is working some off because you've taken a hot shower here.
[608] Okay, 57 ,500.
[609] Again, it's a six -year span, though.
[610] If you have 1 .25 shower beers per week and you're drinking.
[611] 50 weeks of the year, that's 62 shower beer, is not 100.
[612] I'm trying to see what your math is.
[613] I don't get what you're mathing.
[614] I don't get that.
[615] Well, you said there's 52 weeks in a year, minus two weeks if you're sick or you're not going out.
[616] You average 1 .25 shower beers per week.
[617] Yeah, but see, here's where you're doing it wrong.
[618] You have to get the 50 weeks times your 2 .5 nights out per week.
[619] That gives you 125 shower beer possibilities, which then you average, right.
[620] Right.
[621] Which then you get 1 .25 and you subtract that.
[622] Why does it slap, though?
[623] Just because I think it's the mix of the heat from the shower, the coldness of the Miller light, and then the anticipation of more Miller lights post -shower that just gets you to a different place.
[624] I'll tell you why it hits differently because you're thinking about, hey, look, I can drink naked.
[625] And then maybe if I go out, maybe I'll get naked and drink there too.
[626] This is going to be awesome.
[627] Yeah.
[628] Well, well done.
[629] Thank you.
[630] The math checks out.
[631] So I'm going to retire this.
[632] Oh, Mathing over there.
[633] Thank you.
[634] I was really hoping we could quantify why it connects, but you did well.
[635] I can only state why it hits different.
[636] I do the math on how many we can have.
[637] Yeah, why it connects is more vibes.
[638] I do a little confused.
[639] I'm confused you.
[640] But 600, I mean, that's a big number.
[641] I wish he would have just ended with, bam.
[642] And then we could have transitioned right into the next time.
[643] We can transition right into bam.
[644] And, you know, I'm not Emerald.
[645] I think many people think that I'm, cooking, though.
[646] That I'm anti -BAM.
[647] And I understand that, because at times I've been like...
[648] You and Brian Winhorst, anti -Bam for life.
[649] I'm not anti -Bam.
[650] I just...
[651] Didn't Dan do something like that on PTI?
[652] Yeah, and it was like a whole thing with Emerald.
[653] Yes, that's exactly it.
[654] Wait, we got to get the camera on Chris because he did it better than Dan ever did.
[655] Right, ready?
[656] Camera on Chris.
[657] That was good.
[658] I think Bam is an exceptional international center.
[659] I think he's a great center regardless.
[660] My whole thing with BAM is not even a thing on BAM is like, I just want better talent around BAM because I think if you look at international basketball, you're seeing that he gets unlocked in ways.
[661] They're, the heat probably ask him to do too much and his teammates are a little bit too limited.
[662] So I'm not anti -BAM.
[663] I'm anti -not getting more help from BAM.
[664] I've heard you talk about like he's willing to let anyone be the guy.
[665] That's why everyone wants to be here.
[666] That's true.
[667] We've taken shots at him.
[668] Like, he's on this team of stars and I know it's a different style of play, but we got to give him his flowers.
[669] I do.
[670] And I think that these are fair criticisms in that I think a lot of alphas want to play in Miami, in part because BAM complements their skill set, and they know that they don't necessarily have to rip the team away from BAM.
[671] But on the international game, I think it actually gives my argument a little bit more steam in that if you put different type of players around them, better players around them, you get an even better BAM.
[672] And if you make BAM your third best player, as opposed to arguably your first best player, now you're cooking.
[673] Well, regardless of who's at fault, I'm not saying that you guys are responsible for the national discourse or perhaps international discourse about Bam out of bio.
[674] But it made me laugh when Brian Winhorse got into this conversation, that's why I mentioned it to him, where he was talking about the South Sudan team and how they're athletic and they've got these wings that, you know, your big guys are going to have to switch on to.
[675] And then he said somebody like Bam out of bio might not get playing time or as much playing time because the whole discussion being Jason Tatum didn't play last time.
[676] he will play this time.
[677] I'm a little confused by that, not to cut you off.
[678] No, please.
[679] But I think he's a, anytime I watch Joel Embed start, and it seems as though they've tried to force feed Joel Embed in the early going, I think out of the three bigs that are getting playing time on this team, Bam, Anthony Davis, and Joelle, he's the one least equipped for the international game.
[680] Joel.
[681] Yeah.
[682] And I'd rather see Bam and Anthony Davis, who I think is probably underrated in this discussion, get more PT.
[683] Which if you asked people who just watched any of Team USA or even just no international basketball at all and know how Joel Embed plays, if you would have started with the Premas that there's going to be more South Sudanese players, wings that need to be defended, immediately you have to think Joel Embed is the guy of the bigs who's not going to get the minutes.
[684] The fact that Brian Winhorse, who knows more basketball than most people will ever know, he saying, bam, would be the guy to sit, is mind -boggling to think that that is what the national opinion of him is when he is most suited to do that and frankly the best of those three bigs to do so.
[685] We totally agree.
[686] I'd like to get Juju and Tony's thoughts on this because they know ball.
[687] Juju, what is your experience in watching Joel M. Bid and understanding that you're more of a Celtics fan anyways, and I've heard you, but on the international game specifically with Joel M. Bid, it seems as though he tries to lean on some stuff that he does in the NBA.
[688] It's not necessarily working out for him.
[689] You see defenders that are better equipped for the international game, really taking advantage of the lack of three seconds.
[690] And I think that it kind of sticks out in the international game, whatever golf is there in the NBA, perceived golf, between Joelle and Bam and Anthony Davis, it's not there in the international game.
[691] That's at least what my eyes are telling me. For sure.
[692] I think that his style of play combined with his injuries that he has right now that he's fighting through.
[693] It just doesn't make sense for him to be here at all.
[694] I think someone like Paolo Bancaro or just someone younger with fresh legs and just gold in their eyes, you dig me?
[695] It would have been a better option, but it is, it looks goofy at times in the international game because referees ain't falling for that man. You look crazy as hell falling out with this little man in your arm.
[696] You feel what you think, Tony?
[697] I think that there's, it's okay to have some players more suitable for an international game than an NBA game.
[698] That's the reason.
[699] You don't think so, is he?
[700] I think so.
[701] I think Joelle is more suited for the NBA and what the NBA brings as far as a game style than he does internationally.
[702] He looks too big.
[703] He looks just in the middle of the lane.
[704] He doesn't move enough.
[705] He doesn't move enough.
[706] That's the thing.
[707] The Sixers have a very specific bill to have Joelle as their centerpiece.
[708] Team USA has 19 killers on them that can get a bucket at any second.
[709] Joel's just kind of clogged in the lane, always in the middle.
[710] Somebody's trying to drive and he's just kind of there like, excuse me, sorry, where do I go?
[711] By the way, the U .S. several times in recent history have gotten specialists that don't make all -star teams but show up on international basketball teams specific to certain roles.
[712] But as it work with a big?
[713] Like Joelle?
[714] The thing that sticks out specifically about Joel outside of everything that we've outlined is they're force -feeding them in the early going and get them in rhythm.
[715] And I kind of harken back to my experience watching soccer.
[716] in that you have an athlete that had a choice to make.
[717] And it almost seems, although I don't think the international basketball is this competitive.
[718] Like you almost made a promise to Joel Embed that if he picked the United States, he would start, you would feed him the ball.
[719] Because I see that in soccer all the time, that if someone chose United States over Germany, they're on that team sheet.
[720] They're one of the first names.
[721] They're going to get the opportunities here because that's sort of the recruiting promise that you made.
[722] Kind of like college basketball promises, college football, promises.
[723] I just thought that Team USA and basketball would be above that because everyone's entering it with the same amount of ego.
[724] Maybe I'm naive for having that approach to it.
[725] I think to Tony's point, the idea of there being specialists that is okay for the Olympic team, I think it makes all the sense in the world.
[726] There are enough rule changes between the NBA and international game to make it a different enough game that you don't just throw all the best NBA players in there.
[727] Like you mentioned about Joe L .M .B. not moving enough.
[728] That is the international game, man, there's not very many people just, unless it's on a major switch or something and it's obvious, that just dump it in and go to work.
[729] And so I think, yeah, you can do that without insulting the players.
[730] It could be the best player in the NBA, just maybe doesn't work for Team USA.
[731] It's why Mello was so good, right?
[732] Like, he could get his game in the international game and be an all -star, superstar at the Olympic and international level, where, again, he was great in the NBA at what he did, but he could flow so much easier when there was more motion.
[733] It just feels like Joel stuck in the mud.
[734] I would rather see a guy like Jared Allen, for example.
[735] He has this trim body up and down the court, and he can knock them balls off of the rim like in national play.
[736] Yeah.
[737] Are you saying specifically that you wouldn't even have him beat on the roster?
[738] Because that's a take.
[739] Yeah, I wouldn't have him on the roster.
[740] If I'm the coaches, why have him beat on the roster?
[741] He's shown you, like, he's been through so much over the past couple of months from the cerebral palsy to just the knee injury.
[742] Brough, rest up.
[743] You got PG -13 coming on the way, and the process should be trusted.
[744] You mentioned the differences in the games, and I feel like I was just getting accustomed to how the WMBA reps were using the whistle this season and then now I'm watching the Olympics and I don't know what the hell's going on.
[745] It is so physical but even watching yesterday it's sort of a similar conversation to the women's game like the U .S. is really good because Brianna Stewart and Naja Wilson run the floor and they're super fast and long and like they can kind of just play ahead of everyone else and so it's giving them the advantage there but I do not envy any coach that has to manage a roster with this many superstars on it.
[746] It's happening with men and women fans getting really upset.
[747] They're not seeing their favorite player play.
[748] They're not getting enough minutes.
[749] They're not getting enough time to get in rhythm.
[750] So they're just not shooting well to right off the bat and then they're on the bench.
[751] Like, man, that has to be a really hard position to be in if you're a coach because you want to win the game, but you want to keep players, you know, healthy and you want to keep people energized for the next round.
[752] But at the same time, you're managing egos.
[753] You're managing minutes.
[754] Like, it just seems like a complete, like, mental game right now.
[755] I also don't want to just harp on Joelle M. Bede.
[756] I think it's a style thing with Bigman 2004.
[757] Tim Duncan.
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[792] Well, I don't know what the secondary ticket market is in Paris.
[793] I would love the opportunity to watch Team USA play meaningful games.
[794] I really wish GameTime were available for that.
[795] Thankfully, here in the United States, game time is available.
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[809] Mike, if I ever went to any of the Stanley Cup finals games and my answers have been pretty consistent.
[810] No, I went to one last year they lost.
[811] This year I didn't go, but boy, my buddy Mike Scher spent a pretty penny on games five and seven, and I tell them that story real quick.
[812] Yeah, I'm just now seeing the gravity of what I did.
[813] And, you know, we'll make it to years end.
[814] But, you know, Christmas.
[815] Yeah, but thankfully I knew I had the best deals with game time there.
[816] But one of the things that I did during that Stanley Cup run was I consumed every bit of content that I could about hockey, the tremendous.
[817] NHL playoffs, and one of the, two of the shows that I would turn to were 32 thoughts and the Jeff Merrick show, Jeff Merrick, a part of both, essentially co -hosting 32 thoughts with L .A. Friedman, a tremendous reporter on the NHL site.
[818] He's basically woge for the NHL.
[819] Jeff Merrick, even keeled host, has covered the sport for so many years, and a lot of hockey fans, like myself and Roy, were bummed to hear this news.
[820] What was weird about the separation of Jeff Merrick and Sportsnet, because these shows are no longer going new existence.
[821] exist with Jeff Merrick on them.
[822] Certainly it'd be tough for the Jeff Merrick show to continue without Jeff Merrick.
[823] We had a lot more questions than answers, and it was very strange.
[824] And some reporters got to digging, and Roy read up on it.
[825] And so, Roy, I'm coming to you here to explain to me the very latest development on one of the more beloved characters that covers hockey.
[826] All right.
[827] So we found out that Jeff Merrick was tipping the picks at the NHHO draft, and apparently in Nevada, they actually have sports books now dedicated to the NHO.
[828] draft, he sent the tip picks to a friend of it.
[829] His name is Mark Seidel who has a scouting service, and Seidel went to Twitter to correctly predict these draft picks.
[830] So the NHL went to the Nevada Gaming Control Board, and they both had separate investigations into the matter.
[831] And then we noticed between the NHO draft and last week that Jeff Merrick's content has slowly disappeared up until finally, sports net decided the part ways with Joe Merrick because he was giving proprietary information to somebody outside of the company.
[832] So it depends on how you view these things.
[833] Didn't Schefter do this or somebody?
[834] So, like, you could say that, well, it seems as though there was a lot more, there was a lot more lead time.
[835] That's where I initially like landed on this.
[836] I'm like, so we're, we're penalizing Jeff Merrick for doing something that we celebrate, depending on how you view those things as spoilers.
[837] but things that Woj and Shams and Shepter do routinely.
[838] But this investigation suggests that you have the gambling element here in which the NHL.
[839] I certainly understand why they have to be more buttoned up here.
[840] But this also seems distinctly Canadian.
[841] That's what I was.
[842] Yeah, well, beyond the scenes with any drafts, the league tells the production truck who the pick's going to be from the team before they announce it to the audience so they can get the graphics ready, the video are ready, the information about the player ready.
[843] But we're talking about a lot more lead time, so much so that someone was able to actually win money on this inside information.
[844] So, especially with someone of Jeff's reputation, there's a lot of integrity there.
[845] They said that Jeff Merrick did not stand to having a financial gain from it.
[846] And is it clear as to whether or not he knew that this information that he was giving would be used specific to gambling?
[847] No, it's not.
[848] And Jeff hasn't really been speaking about any of this.
[849] Oh, he's been buttoned up.
[850] He hasn't said he went on a social media.
[851] he did not say anything on social media about it, up until when he said, hey, I'm leaving sports stuff.
[852] Yeah, where my mind went to is, like, how would this story go if this was one of the more prominent NBA writers?
[853] Because I actually think that they could survive something like this.
[854] Now, ESPN has its own sports book, and we're in a very murky place.
[855] They're league partners.
[856] When you add the gambling aspect of this, I understand how it's further complicated.
[857] I do hope, just because I'm a fan of his, that Jeff not only has an opportunity to explain himself, because I do think that there's a difference as to whether or not he knew that the information that he was getting was going to be used like this.
[858] And even if he did, I think he's still the type of person that deserves a second chance because I'm pro second chances.
[859] Also, selfishly, I was a huge fan of his work, and I would hate to see that go.
[860] They essentially broke up a Canadian cornheiser and Wilbon here with Free and Merrick, and we lose because of this whole very unfortunate situation.
[861] Thanks for cleaning that up.
[862] And speaking of cleaning things up, I want to circle back to a really polarizing segment that I'm not necessarily proud of that we had about Cocoa Golf earlier this week.
[863] No, Cocoa Golf, not a great Olympics for the co -flagbearer, unfortunate there.
[864] I think Serena Williams really changed a lot of the math when it comes to women's tennis unfairly.
[865] Women's tennis in particular has always generally been, unless there's a goat atop of it, very difficult to predict, in part because the matches are shorter.
[866] but you have a lot of Grand Slam winners that are relative flashes in the pan.
[867] You don't have someone atop the sport like you had with Serena, but because Serena existed, everyone was looking for the next Serena.
[868] We've done this a couple of times, and we don't pay attention to how many times someone stumbles with that.
[869] And it's a lot of pressure that we're putting on these athletes in a sport that is relatively way more random than it is on the men's side.
[870] So, Izzy, let's circle back to the Coco thing that we were talking about.
[871] And I just want to say on the front end, I kind of feel like the general point that I was trying to make was missing.
[872] That's my bat because I didn't communicate it and it became more of like a meltdown in sports.
[873] And I thought that my opinion came off a little dissenting when it was more of a mainstream idea.
[874] Basically, the point that I was trying to make and I sincerely failed in doing so was.
[875] Basically, I know that my daughter's going to face hardships when she plays sports.
[876] I know that there are going to be hormonal things that she gets older.
[877] They're going to be frustrations.
[878] They're going to be outsized reactions.
[879] I don't want this to be a data point fresh in her mind that if she encounters a hardship for a four -year -old, a hardship could be, no, we're not going to go to Chuckie Cheese right now, that a 10 -minute breakdown saying this always happens to me, because Coco did it, isn't an inexperience that you should borrow from.
[880] So I really miss the mark in being able to do that.
[881] and I really have my regrets in saying, like, things like you guys don't really have children here.
[882] But I think that is a contributing factor as to how, like, that message was missed because I was working under the assumption that that was assumed.
[883] So first of all, when we're talking about women's sports, don't say hormonal.
[884] Don't bring up first.
[885] Don't be one of the first things you bring up first.
[886] No, no. I'm just going to be jumped all over.
[887] Yeah, no. I know what you mean.
[888] I understand that.
[889] I mean, like, with a four -year -old, I know that my daughter is going to change.
[890] There are both things that we can control.
[891] It could be a boy or a girl.
[892] They could control their emotions, whatever.
[893] You want to talk about.
[894] I get that, I get that.
[895] All right, fair enough.
[896] But the part about, like, I'm taking sports out of it.
[897] And I said this the other day.
[898] I felt like you, me, and Jess, the other day, were almost having two or three different conversations because I'm taking the sports out of it.
[899] And all I'm saying is, as a father, and I have a bunch of nieces and nephews, I've raised kids that aren't even mine.
[900] You expecting your daughter to be perfectly formed as she goes along, regardless of who she learns it, from is naive.
[901] She's going to learn bad habits, bad behavior, bad from somebody.
[902] It could be anybody.
[903] As a parent, if I'm watching her potentially learn that from somebody who even if it's somebody that she thinks is somebody that she should look up to, I'm glad I'm there.
[904] I'm glad I'm there because I want her to see it.
[905] I want her to learn from it.
[906] And even if you're saying at this age, she can't handle all that, fine.
[907] Maybe she takes it, downloads it, and it comes out back in the future and you can be like, ha ha, I know where this is coming from.
[908] I was there.
[909] I watched that happen.
[910] So you have more knowledge as a parent on what your daughter is going through, what she's seen and what she's experienced.
[911] If you shield her from Coco, she might see it in school from somebody else where you don't even have the fortune, the good fortune of being there to know how she took that in.
[912] Understood all good points.
[913] And I would say that I think I'd surprise you with how well equipped I am for very difficult conversations and random questions that a four -year -old would ask.
[914] I said that to you.
[915] I said that.
[916] I said to you the day, I said if that's what your experience is and that's what you believe, you and your daughter are prepared for at the moment, fine.
[917] I'm not opposed to that.
[918] What I'm saying is you're speaking for, in general, and I feel like that is probably a little too strong from yourself.
[919] So here's where my point missed the mark in that you explain that to me, and I think where you're missing the mark is I know all those things.
[920] Okay.
[921] I know that there are certain things I can't control.
[922] I know that there are things that could affect my daughter's behavior and how she reacts to things that I'm going to have to react to in real time.
[923] There are also things that I can control.
[924] For example, there was this YouTube show that she was watching on YouTube kids where I didn't like how the children were speaking to the parents in this.
[925] And I started seeing her behavior replicate that of what she was seeing there.
[926] So I'm not suggesting, Coco is not a catch -all.
[927] But Coco is a data point that in that moment, I could have manipulated.
[928] in that moment my thought process was like let me let me establish a diversionary tactic here because not unlike this YouTube show that I saw where I didn't like how the parents were talking to the kids I don't want to have a very recent example where my daughter sees this reaction and because she is for and because she recognizes Coco may replicate that behavior because in a world fill the things that I cannot control this is one instance in which as a parent I'm I had decisions to make.
[929] And I thought I navigated it well.
[930] And where I aired was I was explaining my thought process instead of actually really trying to detail how I dealt with it, which was I played with slime.
[931] But this is, this is to Jess's point.
[932] I'd like to hear her opinion on this part.
[933] This isn't Cocoa Golf's fault.
[934] There's a difference between sport and a produced show that is aimed for kids.
[935] Cocoa Golf is not out there thinking, I have to think about the four -year -olds out there.
[936] She might think about it afterward.
[937] Yeah, she might think about it other times.
[938] But at the time, that is not her at the moment responsibility.
[939] I don't think I have anything to add.
[940] We were on the same page with it, and you said the other day that, yeah, like, she had a bad day.
[941] Athletes have, you know, bad moments sometimes, and I agreed with you, and I thought we kind of, like, we're on the same page with that.
[942] And it's not her responsibility to be a good role model as she's playing a game.
[943] No. Because she's thinking that there's a kid somewhere watching her.
[944] like there's just all of these assumptions about women and female athletes that get made all the time that they're supposed to be role models and they're supposed to look pretty and look feminine and it's the same conversation we had earlier today about boxing is that you make all of these assumptions about what women are supposed to be and then when they go out there and compete and people don't like what they see because it doesn't fit their ideals of what is supposed to be happening everyone gets angry and mad at it yeah i wasn't i wasn't angry or mad and like you say at me with angry Nicholas Cage face.
[945] Well, because I think there was something that Jess said in particular that maybe my daughter isn't ready for sport and my daughter celebrates sports.
[946] My daughter actively participates in them, has tremendous relationships with athletes.
[947] Mike, we have trouble in sports.
[948] As adults, we don't know how to handle it sometimes.
[949] Yeah, but I would say like in a vacuum, outsized reaction and not a dissenting opinion, especially when in other variations of that sport, you're really.
[950] reaction can shape potentially the decision there.
[951] It wasn't about that.
[952] And if you watched in that moment, it was clear that it was about other things there.
[953] So while I appreciate everybody's perspective, and I think I bridge some gaps here, because we coded like we're on the same page, which kind of alludes that I'm on a different page.
[954] I think we're all on the same page.
[955] We're all seeing everybody's perspective.
[956] We're having different conversations.
[957] You can have a conversation about the difficulties of parenting and not start the conversation by saying Cocoa Gough effed up and I had to hold my kid to the side for not watching it.
[958] I agree.
[959] If someone said that, I would understand that.
[960] I didn't.
[961] I just explained a situation that I ran into as a parent in a rare instance thought I could control a situation and you disagreed.
[962] But you called her a bad role model and that was where he started arguing.
[963] No, Jess, I didn't.
[964] You did.
[965] No, Jess, I didn't.
[966] In fact, you invoked role model.
[967] In fact, what I thought was, in fact, you see some, All right.
[968] So, my, Jess, I understand the role model conversation.
[969] And I thought that I had a pretty good response in that it's convenient for us to pick and choose when someone is a role model.
[970] Because I think Coco, in moments with my daughter where she hit an autograph ball to her, was very cognizant of being a role model.
[971] And I understand to project that onto any athlete.
[972] And this is not a woman thing, even though I'm not ignoring that as part of the discussion.
[973] It's impossible to uphold that standard.
[974] People, it's impossible for me to uphold that standard.
[975] I check my behavior around my daughter all the time because it's something that I can control.
[976] This was an instance in a world full of things that I can't control that I felt like I could.
[977] And so I ran a diversionary tactic because as with any four -year -old, as many people will know, as you may know with your nieces and nephews, they replicate behavior almost instantly sometimes.
[978] And that was a behavior in that moment that I did not want my daughter replicator.
[979] I am telling you, as I said that day, as I'm saying today, I am not saying that that was a bad.
[980] choice by you and I'm not disagreeing with you that that is what most parents would do but in Jess's defense as I sat here listening to you whether or not you said the word role model that's what came across and what you were saying no I probably said a role model there right so we're just trying to get that there are no infallible role models there and I understand that and I understand that this is a moment in time where I could spend this into a positive and what I'm saying is there's a lot of fatigue with that the world is throwing stuff at us constantly And whether you're controlling something that's on a YouTube algorithm or trying to run a diversionary tactic with slime, there are certain things that you can control.
[981] And in that moment, I wasn't prepared to explain to my daughter as to why Cocoa Goff had an outsized 10 -minute breakdown that anyone in the sport would tell you was outsized.
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