Fearless with Jason Whitlock XX
[0] Welcome to Fearless with Jason Whitlock.
[1] I'm Jason Whitlock, your host.
[2] Happy Tuesday.
[3] Thank you for joining me. Awesome show planned for you today.
[4] We're going back at the Luka Doncic trade, but this time we're going to do it with a guest, Christopher Craterville, I believe is how he pronounces his last name, but we'll ask him when we bring him on here in a second.
[5] He's the guy that wrote the X thread that I read yesterday about...
[6] What's going on with the Dallas Mavericks and how this is a controlled demolition in order to pressure Dallas and Texas legislators to allow Miriam Adelson to build a casino attached to a new arena for the Dallas Mavericks.
[7] Anyway, if you missed yesterday's show, you'll hear it straight from the horse's mouth.
[8] Christopher laid out.
[9] Christopher's here as a guest.
[10] He's a longtime Dallas Mavericks fan.
[11] He's a Texas state litigator, I believe.
[12] And anyway, he's got a theory and a belief system about what's going on with the Dallas Mavericks, what's going on with Luka Doncic, why they made this trade and gave Luka away for Anthony Davis.
[13] It's a fascinating theory.
[14] We'll hear it straight from the horse's mouth.
[15] We got other things we'll cover as well because there's...
[16] A former minority owner of the Golden State Warriors, he responded to what Christopher's thread said and said that he sold his stake in the Golden State Warriors.
[17] Because he thinks there's going to be a rival NBA league and that this league is ripe for a rival because of shenanigans like what.
[18] Christopher laid out yesterday over X. So we're going to start there.
[19] There's other sports topics.
[20] We'll bring on Steve Kim and talk about those other sports topics.
[21] We'll get to Shamika Michelle, talk about some things going on in the political world.
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[44] All right, let's welcome in Christopher Crateville, a Texas state litigator who had the greatest theory I've heard.
[45] on what's really going on with the Dallas Mavericks.
[46] And so, Christopher, if you could start out by correcting me on how to pronounce your last name.
[47] No, it's a tough last name, Jason.
[48] First of all, thanks for having me on the show.
[49] It's a real privilege to be here.
[50] My last name is pronounced Craddaville, so you were pretty close.
[51] Craddaville.
[52] Craddaville, that's it.
[53] Feel free to call me Chris, please.
[54] Chris, Mr. Craddaville, the floor is yours.
[55] I walk people through it.
[56] but I wanted them to hear it from the horse's mouth.
[57] So let's start here.
[58] How long have you been in the Dallas area?
[59] How long have you been a Mavericks fan?
[60] And what compelled you to unpack all of this?
[61] Yeah, great question.
[62] I've lived in the Dallas area most of my life.
[63] I was at, with my now deceased father, the very first Mavericks game way back in 1980.
[64] I was six years old.
[65] You know, been a fan as long as the franchise has existed.
[66] And like a lot of people around the Dallas -Fort Worth area, I got the news about the Luka trade as I was going to bed on Saturday night about 1130 and really couldn't sleep that night.
[67] It almost felt like a death in the family.
[68] Right.
[69] I mean, as a Mavericks fan, I think I can speak for all Mavericks fans.
[70] We loved Luka.
[71] He was our guy.
[72] We embraced him.
[73] He came here as a boy, an 18 year old teenager, and he.
[74] Became a man here, got married, had a kid, led the team to two Western Conference finals, one NBA finals, was building something just incredible.
[75] And to pull the plug on that and to send him away, particularly for a, you know, a fairly, I think, from the perspective of most Mavericks fans, meager return was just crushing.
[76] And so after a sleepless Saturday night, Sunday morning, I got up and kind of put my thoughts on this together and put it out there on X, and it seemed to find a real audience, about 6 .3 million views in about 36 hours now.
[77] So people found the theory interesting, and the theory is this.
[78] The Luka trade is not explicable as a basketball move.
[79] Outside of Charles Barkley and Kendrick Perkins, virtually no one thinks this is a sound basketball move.
[80] To give away a 25 -year -old generational superstar who was headed in the right direction and had already taken you to the finals, that's never happened before, not in the history of the NBA.
[81] No player of Luka's caliber has ever been traded at...
[82] 25 years of age.
[83] It just doesn't happen.
[84] So if it doesn't happen and it doesn't make sense from a basketball perspective, what's really going on here?
[85] And that got me thinking about who now owns the Mavericks and what their stated goals are.
[86] It's the Adelson family, owners of the Sands Casino Corporation out of Las Vegas.
[87] And when they bought the team a year and a half ago from Mark Cuban, cuban and the adelson's were very up front that the goal here was to bring a destination resort casino to the dallas fort worth area it's sometimes been referred to as the venetian dallas and um you know they know how to build casinos they know how to operate profitable casinos they know how to make a lot of money in the casino gaming business and texas is the largest untapped market for casino gaming in the entire United States.
[88] So that's going to require a pretty heavy political lift.
[89] It's going to require changing the Texas Constitution, and that requires the Texas legislature to approve a constitutional amendment that then goes to the voters.
[90] And Jason, this is a little bit in the weeds, and I apologize for that.
[91] It gets into some fairly technical Texas political stuff that probably isn't a usual topic on a sports show.
[92] But the Texas legislature, unlike, say, the California legislature, it only meets once every other year.
[93] So for four months, every two years, the Texas legislature meets.
[94] And when it's done, it's done.
[95] And they don't come back for two more years.
[96] So there are these narrow windows where you can get things done.
[97] And for the last three sessions, the Adelson family and Sands Casinos has been really aggressively pushing a casino legalization bill in the Texas legislature.
[98] And they've done everything you can think of.
[99] They have hired.
[100] Legions of lobbyists, literally about 100 lobbyists in Austin to push for this.
[101] They are tremendous donors to Texas politicians.
[102] They are they are literally the largest donor to our governor, Greg Abbott.
[103] They are running commercials in your local newscast and local programs promoting the idea of destination resort casinos in Texas.
[104] But it's not going to happen in this current legislative session that started in January and ends in May. You know, the smart money in Austin is that that bill is not getting through.
[105] No way.
[106] And this will be the third session in a row where the Adelson family and Sands Casinos has gone all in on trying to get a casino bill through the Texas legislature.
[107] And it's still not happening.
[108] So they've tried the carrot.
[109] And when the carrot fails, what's left but the stick?
[110] So what stick do they have?
[111] Well, they bought the Mavericks to be the centerpiece, their new arena to be the centerpiece of this destination casino resort.
[112] And they can't, they can't, the Mavs are going to need a new arena by 2031.
[113] The American Airlines Center opened in 2000.
[114] Their lease expires in 2031.
[115] It's an aging facility.
[116] Cuban, when he owned the team, was...
[117] interested in getting a new arena done.
[118] And the Adelson's bought the team to get a new arena done just as part of a casino.
[119] So we're on the shot clock here.
[120] It's not happening in the 25 legislative session.
[121] So if it doesn't happen, casino legalization in the 27 or 29 legislative sessions, then the Adelson's whole plan has come unwound.
[122] And their stated reason for purchasing the Mavericks does Doesn't make any sense and is invalid.
[123] So they need a stick.
[124] They've tried the carrot.
[125] They've tried the carrot three legislative sessions in a row.
[126] And they've tried the biggest carrot they can find and it's not working.
[127] So now they need a big stick.
[128] What is that stick?
[129] Chris, hold for one second, Chris.
[130] I just want to make sure they they stated at the time that they bought the team from Mark Cuban that the primary goal.
[131] Was to build a new arena and put a casino attached to it or make a casino a part.
[132] They've been out of the closet about that goal.
[133] Absolutely.
[134] Primary vision.
[135] Absolutely.
[136] And Mr. Cuban as well.
[137] Even before he sold the team, Cuban was talking about this and he talked about SANS being a partner in this.
[138] And then, of course, he went ahead and took it to the next level by selling 75, 77 percent of the team to SANS or to the family that owns SANS.
[139] So I don't think, Jason, there's any ambiguity here.
[140] And so.
[141] And again, I want you to finish out your story, but I just want there's a few things that just pop into my head immediately.
[142] Is there a possibility that Mark Cuban sold them the team because he knew he didn't want to be the villainous owner that maybe had to use the team as the stick to force this to happen?
[143] And the Adelsons are perhaps more comfortable playing that villain role because I have a theory.
[144] If you're right, I think once everything's in place, Mark Cuban is going to return as majority owner of the Dallas Mavericks.
[145] And the Adelsons will be the bad guys that are sitting around collecting all their casino and gambling money.
[146] And they'll be perfectly fine being the bad guys while Mark could be the returning, conquering hero.
[147] That's a really interesting theory, Jason.
[148] I know Cuban is passionate about basketball and the Adelsons are passionate about casino gambling.
[149] So, you know, I could I could see that.
[150] And but I don't think there's any ambiguity about this.
[151] The Adelsons are here.
[152] Sands is here to build a casino resort with the new Mavericks Arena at its center.
[153] In fact, they.
[154] have put together a purchase of about 108 acres of land in Irving, Texas, which is suburban Dallas.
[155] It's actually the old Texas Stadium site where the Cowboys used to play.
[156] Now, Texas Stadium was demolished.
[157] 15 years ago, and that land and those parking lots that it used to use are ripe for development.
[158] And the Adelsons and Sands have purchased that 108 acres of land to be the site of the new arena and the destination casino resort.
[159] So they're putting their money where their mouth is.
[160] Not only did they buy the team, they bought some prime real estate to build their vision on.
[161] The problem is they can't build their vision.
[162] uh unless and until the texas legislature acts and the texas legislature didn't act in the 21 session it didn't act in the 23 session despite all the money and all the lobbying um they're not going to do it in the 25 session and the adelson's only have until 2031 to get this done so if they can't get it through in 27 or in 29 the whole plan in my view or at least they have to materially adjust the timeline on it.
[163] Let me ask this question.
[164] Why won't Texas lawmakers approve this?
[165] That's one.
[166] Just answer that.
[167] Why won't Texas approve this?
[168] I think that's a complicated answer.
[169] Texas is a conservative red state, and there are a lot of people, including our Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick, who is the president of the Senate and brings bills to the Texas Senate floor, who are just fundamentally opposed to gambling and don't want to see gambling expanded.
[170] That is a principled position that Lieutenant Governor Patrick and a lot of members of the legislature take, and they are not going to deviate.
[171] from that position.
[172] It's a moral position to them.
[173] So they are serious about that.
[174] That's part of the coalition that's against gambling.
[175] Also, there are some very, very large tribal casinos, Native American casinos right over the Red River in Oklahoma.
[176] Windstar and Choctaw.
[177] And I believe Windstar by square footage might be the largest casino in the United States.
[178] It's not as splashy as a Vegas casino, but it's huge.
[179] So the money the Adelsons are putting into Texas politics is offset by the money that the Native American tribal casinos put into Texas politics on the other side.
[180] You don't put a gargantuan casino in Thackerville, Oklahoma to service the popular of Thackerville.
[181] You put it there because it's the closest you can plant a casino to Dallas.
[182] Right now, that's there to service people from Dallas, Fort Worth.
[183] And if suddenly the Adelsons have the Venetian Dallas in Irving, Texas, five minutes from downtown Dallas, nobody's going to be driving an hour and a half to Thackerville, Oklahoma anymore.
[184] So it's existential for those tribal casinos.
[185] And they put a lot of money into Texas politics the other way against legalization of gambling.
[186] So you've got the holy cow, Chris.
[187] This is an episode of Yellowstone.
[188] Do you ever watch Yellowstone?
[189] This is an episode of Yellowstone.
[190] This is like a season of Yellowstone.
[191] You got the Native Americans again.
[192] It's all about follow the money.
[193] Yeah.
[194] All right.
[195] So how does dumping Luca help Miriam Adelson accomplish her goal?
[196] So they need a stick.
[197] And I believe that stick.
[198] is the threat to move the team to Las Vegas, where Sands is based and where Dr. Adelson lives and has long resided.
[199] That's where the company is.
[200] They know the gambling business.
[201] They are one of the preeminent companies and preeminent families in Las Vegas.
[202] So I don't believe they actually want to move the team.
[203] I think they want to build a casino arena in Dallas, Texas or suburban Dallas, Texas.
[204] But they need a threat to get this bill through the Texas legislature.
[205] And the threat is to move the team to Vegas, or at least not yet.
[206] That would be the threat in 27 or 29 in the legislative session then.
[207] If you don't approve this, we have no choice but to move the team.
[208] Now, nobody would take that threat seriously if the Mavs are riding high.
[209] You know, and the Mavs are riding high or were until 36 hours ago.
[210] They had a finals appearance last June.
[211] They'd been to two of the last three Western Conference finals.
[212] They had a generational superstar early in his career, 25 years old, and they'd built a really good roster around him.
[213] The Mavs were going to be a competitive franchise for the next decade, maybe longer.
[214] you know, barring catastrophic injury or something like that, they were in a position to have a decade -long run of success.
[215] And teams that are on a decade -long run of success do not move.
[216] They do not move because their arena is full.
[217] and their TV ratings are high, and their merchandise is selling, and people are wearing it, and they have plenty of season ticket subscribers, team riding high does not move.
[218] And even if they want to move, the NBA Board of Governors would say no to that.
[219] So people have said it's a little bit like the plot of the movie Major League.
[220] It is to an extent, but it's not about actually moving.
[221] It's about having a viable threat.
[222] So coming in in 27 or 29 to that legislative session, the Adelsons want to be in a position to say to the Texas legislature, you either OK gambling this time or we are taking the team to Vegas.
[223] And they don't want the legislatures who are they they are using that stick on to say, well, the NBA Board of Governors.
[224] will veto that.
[225] And you would never abandon the fourth largest, perhaps by then third largest media market in the country for Las Vegas, which is the 40th largest media market in the country.
[226] The NBA Board of Governors won't allow it.
[227] And that would be a pretty good argument in 2025.
[228] But if you skip ahead to 2029, four years hence, let's look at what the Mavericks core is now, right?
[229] It's Anthony Davis.
[230] about to be 32 years old.
[231] Everybody knows AD's injury history.
[232] It's not good.
[233] He's spent a lot of time, a lot of missed games over the years.
[234] He'll be 36 by that 29 legislative session.
[235] Kai, Klay Thompson, both on the bad side of 30.
[236] Klay Thompson's going to be out of basketball by the 2029 Texas legislative session.
[237] And Kai will be on the downside of his career by 2029 as well.
[238] So you're going to have a bad where its core has aged out.
[239] They'll be on the decline by 27, and they'll be gone or in profound decline by 29.
[240] Plus, the spirits of Mavericks fans like myself, day one fan, are broken right now.
[241] Our hearts are broken with losing Luka.
[242] I have no desire to watch a Mavericks game right now, much less to spend money to buy a ticket to go do it or to buy an AD jersey.
[243] I have no desire to do that, and I'm not alone in that.
[244] So you've got a depressed, dispirited fan base.
[245] You know, the headline on the Dallas Morning News yesterday, front page, as big as you can make a headline was, Luka was ours, right?
[246] And that's the sentiment around here.
[247] He was our guy.
[248] He was home growing.
[249] He's gone.
[250] The guys who are replacing him are all on the bad side of 30.
[251] The team is going to have a window of competitiveness, two or three years maybe.
[252] But after that, they're going to be in a place where an ownership group can point to declining season ticket sales, declining fan enthusiasm.
[253] instability in the local TV deal, the need for a new arena in 2031, perhaps the collapse of the political will to build that new arena.
[254] And they can make a legitimate threat to move.
[255] And at that point, your Texas legislators, what does every legislator want?
[256] They want to be reelected.
[257] How do you lose votes in a low turnout election?
[258] Well, you're the guy who lost the NBA franchise.
[259] You're the guy who ran the Mavericks out of town and chased them to Las Vegas.
[260] And there are a lot of apolitical people who probably don't normally vote in a primary election, might not vote in the general election in November, who are going to turn out to potentially vote against people who ran the Mavericks off.
[261] So that's, I think, the calculus that if you are armed with a viable threat to move, you suddenly have a That metaphorical gun that you can hold to the head of the Texas legislature and say, legalize gambling or we pull the trigger and the Mavs move.
[262] And I don't know how the legislature reacts with that metaphorical gun to their head.
[263] But between the carrot, all the lobbying, all the political donations, the push for gambling and the stick.
[264] of that gun to the head, legalized gambling so we can build our destination resort casino arena or we leave.
[265] I think that something like that is how you might finally get gambling legalized in Texas.
[266] Chris, are you much of a football fan?
[267] I am.
[268] I am very much so.
[269] Cowboys fan, unfortunately.
[270] Until a week ago, we thought Brian Schottenheimer was bad news.
[271] Now that looks like good news in the Dallas market.
[272] Have you ever heard of Georgia Frontiare?
[273] Owner of the Rams.
[274] Took him to St. Louis?
[275] Yes.
[276] Yes.
[277] She had a running back.
[278] She had a 23 -year -old running back who had the greatest start to an NFL career of any running back in history.
[279] His name was Eric Dickerson.
[280] In three of his first four years, he finished second in the MVP voting.
[281] Three of his first four years.
[282] I think he lost to Joe Theismann, who won a Super Bowl.
[283] Then he lost to Dan Marino, who had that incredible start to his season in 84.
[284] And then in 1986, Dickerson lost to Lawrence Taylor, one of the greatest players in NFL history for the MVP.
[285] But Dickerson opened his career rushing for 1 ,800 yards as a rookie.
[286] 2 ,105 yards as a second -year player, which is still the most rushing yards in an NFL season.
[287] And then in his fourth season, rushed for 1 ,800 yards.
[288] And the Los Angeles Rams traded Eric Dickerson in 1987 to the Indianapolis Colts.
[289] And Rams fans were irate.
[290] They had their version of Luka Doncic.
[291] And you know what happened to the Rams?
[292] Eight years later, they moved to St. Louis.
[293] Absolutely.
[294] So we've seen this before.
[295] This is nothing new.
[296] And I don't, did you catch, I know we sent it to you, but, and I'm going to screw up Chamas' last name, Palapatua, I think, maybe his last name.
[297] It's even tougher than Credible.
[298] It's a tough last name.
[299] Yeah.
[300] Anyway, very popular guy.
[301] He's a member of that All In podcast with David Sachs.
[302] Really rich guy.
[303] He owned a piece of the Golden State Warriors, and he, responding to your thread, posted this on X yesterday.
[304] I sold my ownership in the Warriors last year, in part, because I was pretty sure competition for the NBA was coming, a la Live Golf versus the PGA.
[305] The speculated annex below, talking about what you wrote.
[306] only reinforced the likelihood that a group of well -heeled investors with $5 to $10 billion could quickly stand up a competitor to the NBA.
[307] After this trade, they may want to start with Luka and pay him his Supermax and get LeBron by making him the commissioner.
[308] I just, you've now got someone that used to own an NBA franchise who basically has legitimized your theory.
[309] And I think, like, the scales, have been off of sports fans' eyes, but they're really coming off sports fans' eyes, and they're starting to figure out, hey, none of this is really about us.
[310] This is all about the expansion of gambling and how can teams make more money, and the fans are the last thing to be thought about, and who cares if Dallas has a seven -year relationship with Luka Doncic?
[311] Who cares if he's in his prime?
[312] We got a casino we need to get built, and we're going to do it by any means necessary.
[313] And to me, to have your narrative legitimized by a former NBA owner has to, one, make you feel good, but also has to, one, make you feel like, hey, what I'm talking about is really real, and it's really the only explanation.
[314] I've heard a lot of different explanations about this Luka deal, and there will be all these broadcasters.
[315] tied to the NBA that will push all these, hey, Luka's fat.
[316] Hey, they were really fed up with Luka.
[317] Hey, this, but this is the only thing that makes sense in my view.
[318] And just if you want to comment on Chama's post on X or just tip your hat and take a bow for being the guy that opened everyone's eyes to what's really going on.
[319] Well, thank you for that, Jason.
[320] And I did feel very validated after I saw his post for a former NBA owner to weigh in and at least implicitly endorse or give some credence to my theory made me feel good on one level.
[321] But it also made me feel very bad on another level because I agree with you, Jason.
[322] It is tragic.
[323] What is.
[324] becoming of sports.
[325] It's not about the fans.
[326] It's not about the loyalties in the relationships with cities and the relationships with fan bases.
[327] It's just another business.
[328] And if if they can maximize profits by breaking the hearts of my 10 year old and my 14 year old love Luca, it was tough breaking this news to them.
[329] on on sunday morning when they got up they weren't out awake when it when it broke um and that same conversation was repeated all over all over texas on sunday morning and it's hard uh and i know sports are a business but there's always been a public component to that that business as well and i think the the very best owners the very best franchises uh treasure their relationship with their fan base, treasure their relationship with the city they represent.
[330] And they wear that city name on their jerseys, you know, with pride and they feel that connection.
[331] And if you just treat it as if you're an outsider and you come in and it's all about building a casino rather than, you know, the 50 year history of the Mavericks franchise in this city, that to me is just kind of sad and kind of tragic.
[332] But it is also reality.
[333] Chris, thank you so much for taking the time.
[334] We wish you well.
[335] Maybe you're the next Randy Galloway or Tim Kalashaw.
[336] Well, you flatter me. But we appreciate the insight.
[337] Thank you so much.
[338] We're going to keep it moving.
[339] We got Steve Kim coming around the corner.
[340] Steve will weigh in on this and a whole buffet of other sports topics.
[341] I think Windhorse just said that Luka Doncic, there's no guarantee that he's going to re -up.
[342] with the Lakers that, you know, he may not be all that pleased with going to L .A. This guy, I think he's Serbian, and, you know, Serbians tend to be Christian, and he probably liked being in Dallas.
[343] And, again, I'm not—Luka— I think likes to drink a little bit and certainly likes to eat just like me. I don't know how far along he is in his faith life, but I know Serbians tend to be Christian and that environment in Dallas is better than the environment in Los Angeles.
[344] And so he may not want the Los Angeles Lakers experience and may move on from the Lakers.
[345] That'll be interesting.
[346] We'll cover that.
[347] LeBron James or Kevin Durant?
[348] Who should the Warriors target and who would you prefer to see go to the Warriors?
[349] There's a lot of speculation about KD perhaps returning to the Warriors.
[350] There's some speculation about the Warriors trying to trade for LeBron James to make one more title run.
[351] Terrell Owens, we're going to talk about this as well.
[352] He believes in the Chiefs conspiracy theory.
[353] How about this?
[354] Myles Garrett.
[355] Great defensive player, great defensive end for the Cleveland Browns.
[356] He's had enough of Cleveland and has demanded to be traded.
[357] Cooper Cup, Rams wide receiver, is also on the trade block.
[358] I think both those guys, Miles Garrett and Cooper Cup to the Buffalo Bills, and now you've got a team that can really contend with the Kansas City Chiefs.
[359] Roger Goodell has doubled down on DEI, says the NFL is sticking with it.
[360] He also says there's going to be a flag football league for men and women.
[361] The NFL is going to sponsor.
[362] And Brady, Tom Brady and Snoop Dogg made a silly commercial about hate.
[363] So we're going to try to cover all that with Steve Kim.
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[393] It continues the mission of encouraging...
[394] each other to pursue holiness and the execution of the Great Commission by seeking alliance and fellowship with men who share our faith, values and commitment to obey our Lord and Savior.
[395] This year, we will emphasize the importance of finding joy and like mindedness in the subjugating of our own interest to the interest of God's kingdom.
[396] We have invited speakers and performers designed to inspire all of us to fulfill the law of Christ and bear one another's burdens.
[397] The world baits us.
[398] to adopt allies and allocate our support based on superficial characteristics such as skin color and sexual identity, but roll call.
[399] It reminds us every year that our allies are found in Christ.
[400] Our allies are found in this small remnant who is submitted to Jesus Christ.
[401] Make sure you're making plans to join us May 2nd and 3rd here in Nashville.
[402] I want to meet you.
[403] I want to shake your hand.
[404] I want you to meet and shake hands and hear from Tucker Carlson and Pastor Corey Brooks and Doug Wilson and Bishop McLaughlin and E .W. Jackson and Alan Jackson and Pastor Anthony Walker and me. All right, Steve Kim.
[405] Thanks.
[406] All right, welcome back.
[407] Time for some Korean co -sale.
[408] Steve Kim, welcome back to the show.
[409] Steve, what did you think of Chris's explanation hearing it straight from the horse's mouth today?
[410] Nah.
[411] It's very obvious this is much more than just about sports or players and teams.
[412] The word that I would use is insidious.
[413] That again, it doesn't matter about the wins and losses, the championships, the cities, the tradition.
[414] And it certainly does not matter about the fans.
[415] And that truly is a shame because Jason, as I'm listening to this and last night I started talking about it, what have been some of the other trades?
[416] that really ripped the heart out of the fans.
[417] I mean, I fell for the guy when he had to tell his kids, like, kids, I got bad news.
[418] I mean, usually, like, the kids were probably thinking, oh, my God, we got to mow the lawn on a Sunday or take out the trash.
[419] No, it's even worse than that.
[420] You know that guy that you have the big fat head over and you bought all those 77 jerseys that you love?
[421] Yeah.
[422] We had to shoot Lassie.
[423] We had to shoot Old Yeller.
[424] He's gone.
[425] I mean, just think about...
[426] Think about this, Jason.
[427] I was thinking about all the trades in sports history, the major ones, or transactions that broke the heart of a community and a city.
[428] Bernie Kosar, when he got cut, because Bill Belichick said in 93 as a first -place team after a win, Bernie Kosar has diminishing skills, flat -out cut him.
[429] He was a local icon.
[430] The Wayne Gretzky trade in the summer of 88 broke the heart.
[431] I think, of all of Canada.
[432] And that owner, even after winning a Stanley Cup a few years later, I think his name was Peter Pocklington, was still a pariah, okay?
[433] The midnight massacre for New York Met fans of the 70s, June of 1977, when the beloved, terrific Tom Seaver got traded for a bunch of spare parts, that broke the will of the Mets.
[434] They didn't recover until the early to mid -80s.
[435] And then you had the Dickerson trade, where a young, crouching tiger in Montebello never really looked at sports ever again the same.
[436] Eric Dickerson, who, by the way, there is some context to it.
[437] He had held out a couple of times, and he also had hired Ken Norton as his agent one time.
[438] Not Don King, Ken Norton.
[439] So maybe Eric has a little bit of fault there.
[440] But here's the underlying thing, though, Jason.
[441] All of those were basically about sports and business tied in together.
[442] Teams want to get better.
[443] They want to get younger or they have a disgruntled player that just needs to be moved off.
[444] And you think, OK, we understand that.
[445] We get it.
[446] But this here is about billionaires trying to get more money.
[447] And again, I'm not one of those people that's trying to demonize billionaires.
[448] You know, to me, I believe in capitalism.
[449] But at a certain point, I get it.
[450] Sports is a business.
[451] But I still believe, naively, sports should still be, I don't know, about sports.
[452] What did you think of Chamath Palapatea?
[453] I hope I said that right.
[454] Anyway, he's a part of that All In podcast.
[455] He used to own a stake in the Warriors.
[456] He basically legitimized this whole theory.
[457] Like, this isn't far -fetched at all.
[458] And this is why a lot of people, and he makes the argument that there's going to be a competitor to the NBA very, very soon.
[459] I found all that very fascinating.
[460] I did.
[461] But Jason, I think there was a time in the place for an ABA back in the 70s.
[462] I get it.
[463] I read Loose Balls by Terry Pluto.
[464] Very entertaining book.
[465] I can understand why at a certain point in time.
[466] There were rival leagues.
[467] It's just my opinion in the 21st century, we don't need a USFL.
[468] It's not even wanted or an ABA.
[469] I barely think that there's an appetite right now for the NBA.
[470] Do you really think that all of them, most of America's raising their hands saying, yeah, we'd like to see a competitor to the NBA?
[471] I just don't see that.
[472] I just do not see the appetite.
[473] for more basketball at this moment?
[474] I don't know, Steve.
[475] I think I could formulate a version of professional basketball that would be superior to the version we have now.
[476] And it would involve tying some of the pay to wins and losses.
[477] You know, you've got to obviously get some key players on board.
[478] But, you know.
[479] Yeah, I think a different version of the NBA that de -emphasizes the three -pointer and has it incentivized for players to actually compete.
[480] Yeah, I think, again, will you ever topple the NBA?
[481] But will you draw enough attention to get one of the streaming services to pay for your league?
[482] Maybe.
[483] Yes, I think that's a possibility.
[484] Jason, I think there's a cultural problem here.
[485] The players are so...
[486] They are so entrenched in having guaranteed contracts, very soft leadership, no discipline.
[487] You allow guys like Ben Simmons to fester.
[488] You allow situations like Jimmy Butler to be created.
[489] Why would the players, think about this.
[490] If you're part of the labor, let's think about this.
[491] Let's put our Air Jordans on as a young man. If you're in your mid -20s and you're getting $30, $40, $50 million in guaranteed contracts, And you can complain and wind your way out of games in the name of load management.
[492] And then, I just love this one, mental health.
[493] And the coaches are on board because they're not allowed to even be disciplinarians.
[494] And then you have Adam Tinfoil, who really endorses all of it.
[495] And you still get your money.
[496] You don't have to win.
[497] There's no standards.
[498] And it's an easy, soft game.
[499] Jason, I'm going to admit something here.
[500] I wouldn't give that up.
[501] I wouldn't.
[502] It's human nature.
[503] You may be right.
[504] You may be right.
[505] And there is certainly that side of the argument.
[506] Let's keep it moving, Steve, to what's happening in the NBA right now.
[507] There's a lot of speculation about LeBron James and whether or not he should be trade bait.
[508] There's speculation the Warriors may have an interest in LeBron.
[509] Speculation the Warriors may have an interest in KD.
[510] If you had to choose, if you were the Warriors, who would you rather have, LeBron James or Kevin Durant?
[511] Here we go with that old gonorrhea or syphilis question.
[512] I was just pondering this early in the morning.
[513] There's no real great answer, but I guess one's better than the other.
[514] Jason, I think the answer is kind of easy.
[515] LeBron.
[516] LeBron does more overall in terms of the floor game.
[517] He's more durable.
[518] And LeBron, what's been the one knock on LeBron?
[519] What's been one of the knocks on LeBron?
[520] He doesn't really love the last two minutes of a game to shoot the big shot.
[521] Okay, well, you have Steph Curry.
[522] If you bring in Durant, who's not as durable, a little bit more frail, there still might be an issue in the last two minutes of a game.
[523] Who's going to take the last shot?
[524] I think LeBron would be more than willing to play the facilitator.
[525] the last three or four minutes of a close game and just say, hey, I'm just making the right basketball plays.
[526] So you combine that with the durability and still the overall production, I go with LeBron.
[527] It's easy.
[528] You go with Kevin Durant.
[529] Kevin Durant doesn't have a 19 -year -old son who wants to ride the coattails of his dad.
[530] That's not included.
[531] LeBron is the luggage.
[532] He's not bearing on the carry -on.
[533] No, this is about LeBron James.
[534] There is no carry -on.
[535] This ain't Southwest.
[536] You're not getting the free carry -on there.
[537] No, no. LeBron's the carry -on.
[538] You put Bronny in store.
[539] You check him in at the desk.
[540] No, you leave him at home at the babysitter.
[541] Okay, no, you're leaving that home with the babysitter is what you do.
[542] The Warriors are a serious basketball organization.
[543] They're not run by Jeannie Frey to bust.
[544] Come on, a little different.
[545] Look, you've already won a championship with Kevin Durant.
[546] He's familiar with the culture.
[547] He's familiar with Steve Kerr.
[548] He's familiar with Steph Curry and all that.
[549] Now, I'm sure Draymond Green would love to play with his.
[550] Role model, idol, LeBron James.
[551] But I would go with Kevin Durant.
[552] I want to leave basketball alone.
[553] It is Super Bowl week.
[554] And we have a new addition to the Chiefs conspiracy theory that the league is favoring the Chiefs.
[555] And it's from a Hall of Fame football player, Steve.
[556] A Hall of Fame football player, Terrell Owens.
[557] Let's listen to Terrell Owens.
[558] explain why he buys into the Chiefs conspiracy.
[559] I'm not, I wouldn't count those guys out.
[560] Like I said, and with the refs.
[561] I just, honestly, I just, with all the calls.
[562] What do you mean when you say the refs?
[563] I've been talking about the refs.
[564] I've been talking about the refs too.
[565] They think he's acting like they can't hear.
[566] Bro, it's crazy.
[567] Because I played the game and I'm watching the game and I'm looking at all these calls that they're just, that's benefiting.
[568] The Kansas City Chiefs.
[569] Look at the game before against the Texans.
[570] Bro, like, you know, Mahomes is smart.
[571] He dinking around.
[572] He causing the flag.
[573] You know what I mean?
[574] He's getting the benefit.
[575] He didn't even get hit.
[576] 15 -yard flag.
[577] The guy, Will Anderson, barely hit him.
[578] That can stop the momentum of the game.
[579] At that point in time, the Houston Texans were in the game.
[580] Those calls right there advances them, gives them extra downs.
[581] it changed the whole complexity of the game.
[582] Do you think there's been going on all season with Kansas City or just as recently with the referees?
[583] You can even go back to the last couple of Super Bowl, even when the Niners played the Super Bowl.
[584] Look at all the holding calls.
[585] If you watch that tape, bro, it was crazy.
[586] They were getting clotheslined, and they were not calling it.
[587] It is blatant calls that were missed, like obvious.
[588] That's the word I've been looking for, blatant.
[589] Shit, it's blatant, man. Bro, it's blatant and obvious.
[590] It's unreal.
[591] And I've never thought, again, I've texted him.
[592] I'm like, I never thought I would say that I thought games were rigged or, you know, somebody got, you know, some plays.
[593] It is unreal at the amount of calls that are not called against the Kansas City Chiefs that are called against everybody else.
[594] Is this T .O. stirring up controversy and just trying to draw attention to himself or is he standing on some firm ground here?
[595] Who can make a provocative statement?
[596] He can.
[597] And I agree with him.
[598] Let's be honest about it, Jason.
[599] We've talked about the referees.
[600] Everyone does.
[601] And when we now look at the Super Bowl or preview any Chiefs game, do we not, in the back of our minds, if not just flat out blatantly say, and the officiating, we don't talk about it?
[602] Let's be honest.
[603] There are times in boxing, and I've covered a few boxing matches, with certain big money fighters who are the house fighters.
[604] We always say, yeah, but the judging, anytime there's a close decision, we know who's getting the close rounds.
[605] And guess what?
[606] Lo and behold, most of the times, the A -side fighter who has the money and the promotion behind him, they always seem to win a close 115 -113 decision.
[607] There is a preponderance of evidence.
[608] Okay, and I'm not saying the games are fixed or that officials are on the take.
[609] but there is a preponderance of evidence that suggests that the Chiefs seem to get favorable officiating.
[610] Can we not at least admit that?
[611] Yes and no. Yes and no. It's like being on a craps table.
[612] You'll go on a good run, and then you'll go on a bad run, and the Chiefs are on a good run of calls that perhaps some of them favor them, but it's just...
[613] A good run?
[614] A good four -year run.
[615] A good run.
[616] It's been a marathon.
[617] They haven't hit Heartbreak Hill yet.
[618] They're not Rosie Ruiz.
[619] A good run.
[620] Okay.
[621] Carl Lewis went on a good run.
[622] I can't defend it.
[623] I'm a Chiefs fan, but I can't defend it.
[624] And all the other things that are going on in pro sports that we've been talking about the past two days.
[625] it does legitimize this conversation.
[626] But it's just kind of shocking to hear a Hall of Famer like Terrell Owens, but he's really not saying anything much different than what Troy Aikman said.
[627] Like, hey, this stuff's got to be addressed because there is a credibility issue right now in the NFL as it relates to the Chiefs and just officiating overall.
[628] Let me move on from that because I'm...
[629] Tiny bit uncomfortable because Chiefs win the Super Bowl.
[630] I want to be able to just celebrate it with a clear conscience.
[631] Let me move on to Myles Garrett.
[632] Best defensive player in the NFL, quite possibly.
[633] He and T .J. Watt, I think, would be the two contenders for that.
[634] Myles Garrett, the reigning NFL Defensive Player of the Year, wrote a letter, posted it on social media about how, hey, man, I didn't get in the NFL to...
[635] go to Canton, Ohio, and be a Hall of Fame player.
[636] I joined this to win Super Bowls and chase championships.
[637] I think that's kind of convenient to say at this point because he does look like he's certainly going to be a Hall of Fame football player, so he's got that wrapped up.
[638] And now with whatever's left of his career as a peak, peak pass rusher and defender, he wants to spend it chasing championships.
[639] What's interesting is he doesn't think he can do it in Cleveland.
[640] Because look at the Washington Commanders.
[641] Look at, you know, you can turn a team around in one year if the chips fall your way.
[642] But obviously they got the Deshaun Watson thing hanging over their head.
[643] Anyway, do you blame Myles Garrett for wanting out of Cleveland?
[644] No, I really don't.
[645] And I actually believe if you're the Browns and you know in the heart of hearts, we are more than just a quarterback away or a couple of pieces.
[646] I believe he has to become your Herschel Walker.
[647] He is your most bankable, reliable commodity that could bring multiple high draft choices and maybe a starter.
[648] Cleveland has to be honest with themselves.
[649] They are a long ways away from being a contender, right?
[650] So look, Miles Garrett is headed to the can.
[651] He's got a gold jacket waiting for him.
[652] But now he's on the second half of his career and he's thinking, I want to put some jewelry on my finger.
[653] I want to play some meaningful games.
[654] in mid -January and beyond.
[655] So there are times when a divorce actually benefits both sides.
[656] I mean, let's go back to the Herschel Walker trade.
[657] Jimmy Johnson looked and he said, oh my God, we're terrible.
[658] So I could either draft my way and it's a five -year process, or if I trade Herschel Walker to the Vikings and I get all of this and draft choices, I could expedite that process.
[659] Well, I would have made that trade.
[660] Even in hindsight, it looks even better.
[661] If you're the Browns, you have to understand one thing.
[662] If you keep Myles Garrett, who's still an elite player, are you really guaranteed to win seven, even seven, eight, nine games next year?
[663] No, you're not.
[664] So that moves us to the next question.
[665] Who should target Myles Garrett?
[666] I think there's one team in particular.
[667] The Buffalo Bills, who should go after Miles Garrett.
[668] Yeah, the Buffalo Bills, they have Josh Allen in peak playing condition right now, and they have to win a Super Bowl in the next year or two, or Sean McDermott and everybody that runs that organization will potentially have wasted this peak performance play from Josh Allen.
[669] They need a superstar playmaker on the other side, no different than they had Jim Kelly, a quarterback, and they had Bruce Smith and Cornelius Bennett on the other side.
[670] They had Thurman Thomas.
[671] Josh Allen's out there basically all by himself, the lone superstar.
[672] They need a playmaker on the defensive side of the ball.
[673] If I were them, I would give up two first -round picks.
[674] Not bad.
[675] You pair him with Greg Russo.
[676] That's a dynamic.
[677] duo up front.
[678] I have another team, though, and again, I'd have to look at the salary cap situation and the health of this guy that was knocked out last year, that was on his way to winning defensive MVP, Detroit Lions.
[679] You want to talk about a team that has some capital, that has a lot of quality players.
[680] They're going to draft relatively late, and again, Hutchinson is still a guy.
[681] If he's 95 % of what we thought he was going to be, he's still elite.
[682] Maybe they feel, okay, get him and Aleem McNeil healthy.
[683] We don't need up front.
[684] help but Buffalo sounds good but I also think that maybe their main focus is getting a number one receiver but if I'm Detroit and I saw that there was a lack of pass rush that got that defense absolutely shredded by Jaden Daniels I kind of look at what it's going to cost me because look these windows can close very quickly in the National Football League Steve this is why we call you the Korean Cosell and not the Korean Bill Tobin or who's Bill Polian.
[685] We don't call you the Korean.
[686] Yeah, we don't call you the Korean, you know, general manager.
[687] You know, you're not a great general manager.
[688] You're a great broadcaster, not a great general manager.
[689] Listen, listen.
[690] You have Aiden Hutchinson.
[691] He's still on his rookie contract.
[692] And you're going to sign Miles Garrett.
[693] Hold on.
[694] You're going to sign Miles Garrett.
[695] Now that could potentially interfere.
[696] You're potentially going to interfere with what you'll be able to pay Aiden Hutchinson and what you'll be able to commit to Aiden Hutchinson.
[697] I just don't think you just can't have two defensive ends like that.
[698] Now, could maybe a Joey Bosa become available and you add him to the Detroit Lions, a guy with an injury history, but who still.
[699] can perform at a high level, yes.
[700] But Miles Garrett, the guy at the top of the profession, when you think Aiden Hutchinson is going to trend to be just the same caliber of player as Miles Garrett, I just don't think you could have them on the same team.
[701] This would be like the Tampa Bay Buccaneers saying, yeah, we're going to sign John Randall to play alongside Warren Sapp.
[702] No, you're not.
[703] You're not going to do that.
[704] You said the key phrase, rookie contract.
[705] Look, it's not like you're paying each guy $45 million.
[706] One guy's on his rookie deal.
[707] And just the pass rush is so valuable today.
[708] It's the second most valuable commodity probably behind throwing the football.
[709] It's to disrupt the guys.
[710] It's going to be fixed.
[711] It's going to be fixed next year with Aiden Hutchinson.
[712] We hope.
[713] You have your solution.
[714] Why is it a hope?
[715] Why are you calling it a hope?
[716] Because we don't know what version of Hutch is coming back.
[717] We are making an assumption.
[718] You're acting like he's a wide receiver.
[719] This is like Tyreek Hill coming off a knee injury or whatever.
[720] No, this is a defensive end.
[721] He's going to be perfectly fine.
[722] I'm just saying, if I'm Brad Holmes, I'm going to be bold here.
[723] I trust Brad Holmes.
[724] He knows what he's doing.
[725] Thank God Brad Holmes doesn't trust you.
[726] Let me move to who the Buffalo Bills should target as a wide receiver.
[727] Cooper Cup.
[728] He's on the trading block with the Los Angeles Rams.
[729] They're moving on from Cooper Cup.
[730] I still think there's tread on Cooper Cup's tires, and I think he would be a great fit for Josh Allen and Buffalo.
[731] You get Cooper Cup.
[732] and you get Myles Garrett, and now you got something that you can carry in the Arrowhead, or you can invite, do they still call it the Arrowhead Stadium?
[733] Or you can invite the Chiefs into your place, and now you have the pieces, a pass rush piece to bother Patrick Mahomes, and a number one or number 1 .5 type receiver that can help Josh Allen.
[734] I would love to see the Bills get Cooper Cup.
[735] Not the worst idea.
[736] My only question is, how much does he have left in the tank?
[737] It's clear that the Rams thought Puka Nakua is now the number one receiver.
[738] I had an idea based on their success with older receivers on the tail end.
[739] I would love to see Cup give it a shot with Andy Reid and Mahomes.
[740] Cup's strength is being able to play all over the field.
[741] He's not just a slot receiver or an outside receiver.
[742] He is the queen on the chessboard that can run every route when he's healthy.
[743] That is the key.
[744] But if you put him in Buffalo, you have Shakir at the slot.
[745] You have James Cook at running back.
[746] Can he stay healthy for 17 weeks and be that clear number one primary receiver that is missing for Josh Allen?
[747] That's the question.
[748] A lot of miles on that odometer.
[749] He's more of a one and a half.
[750] He's more of a one and a half.
[751] But I do like your idea of adding an exciting white to the Kansas City Chiefs at the receiver position.
[752] Doing that again.
[753] Oh, jeez.
[754] I do kind of like that.
[755] That wouldn't be bad, adding that to the receiving room.
[756] Let me move on to Roger Goodell.
[757] Roger Goodell was asked about DEI.
[758] Donald Trump, Elon Musk, our new regime at the White House and in government, they're on the attack against diversity, equity, inclusion.
[759] Roger Goodell, a lot of major corporations from Target, a bunch of places have all backed away from DEI, but not Roger Goodell in the NFL.
[760] Here's the commissioner telling reporters that DEI makes us better at player club.
[761] Well, I think I've said it before, Jared, but listen, we got into diversity efforts because we felt it was the right thing for the National Football League.
[762] And we're going to continue to those efforts because we've not only convinced ourselves, I think we've proven ourselves that it does make the NFL better.
[763] So we're not in this because it's a trend to get in or a trend to get out of it.
[764] Our efforts are fundamental in trying to attract the best possible talent into the National Football League, both on and off the field, as I said previously.
[765] And we see that.
[766] We see how it's benefited the National Football League.
[767] And so I think we'll continue those efforts.
[768] I think it's also clearly a reflection of our fan base and our communities and our players.
[769] I wish he would point it to the example of the clear proof.
[770] Hey, here's where DEI has made us better.
[771] I wish he had pointed to that.
[772] And so I would say, oh, okay.
[773] He's saying officiating has really improved because of DEI.
[774] We've added more women and minorities to officiating.
[775] And look how much better we're doing with officiating.
[776] If he had said that, give me something tangible rather than just platitudes and...
[777] Hey, you know, I'm pretty sure that was Jared Bell, formerly of USA Today, or maybe still with USA Today.
[778] He's covered the NFL for a long time, asking that question.
[779] A black reporter.
[780] I need to check.
[781] Was Jim Trotter, you know, the commissioner does his press conference.
[782] I missed that.
[783] Was he there as well?
[784] Yeah.
[785] That would have been the ironic thing to say, we love DEI, Jim Trotter, except in the newsroom and we got rid of you.
[786] I mean, that became like the yearly tradition, right?
[787] Here's the reality.
[788] The DEI, in my view, America has spoken, is very un -American, very un -American.
[789] So here's the issue.
[790] Do all the DEI initiatives you want.
[791] Put all the slogans you want in the back of the end zone.
[792] Put it on the 50 -yard line.
[793] Nobody cares.
[794] We're at that point now in American society.
[795] We either are ignoring it or we have an incredible amount of apathy towards it.
[796] And as I've said before, Jason, you can have a platform.
[797] That's great.
[798] We can choose to ignore it.
[799] You can have a message.
[800] We can choose to disagree with it.
[801] But no longer do we have to pander and pretend that we give about whatever you're saying.
[802] And you're right.
[803] I will believe in DEI and it making National Football League better when we start having some Asian wide receivers and not just kickers, okay?
[804] That's when I'll believe in DEI.
[805] Have an Asian cornerback, and then I'll be all aboard.
[806] I just want to see proof.
[807] That it works.
[808] And yes, I mean, I know that some people get nice jobs and titles from it, but the proof that it works just isn't there.
[809] Handing out jobs based on a color code and based on who's sleeping with who or who you're sexually attracted to.
[810] Show me that it works.
[811] I just, you know, has there been some great female coach that put some team over the top?
[812] I don't know.
[813] I haven't been a witness to that.
[814] Any of these female referees, have they done anything great?
[815] Did they make some call?
[816] They can only referee in one spot, it appears.
[817] Tell me how this makes the NFL better.
[818] He doesn't have that kind of proof.
[819] It's just some kind of woke initiative that virtue signals and you get to feel good about yourself.
[820] Hey, we did something for the Negroes.
[821] When really you've done something mostly for white women and gays and lesbians.
[822] But this is the commission.
[823] You got a final thought on this or I got one more.
[824] Based on those comments and what happened yesterday, Al Sharpton will now be watching a Super Bowl on Sunday.
[825] Hey, this is according to my guy over at Front Office Sports, Michael McCarthy.
[826] NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell has stated.
[827] During his State of the League speech in New Orleans, Goodell says the league is exploring creating professional flag football leagues for both men and women.
[828] And so this both thing, and I tried to get to the bottom of this, are these separate leagues for men and women or are they trying to do a co -ed league for men and women?
[829] But can't answer that right at the moment.
[830] I think it's separate leagues for men and women.
[831] Do we need flag football sponsored by the NFL?
[832] Is this Pro Bowl thing actually working?
[833] Is it working?
[834] I don't know.
[835] Can I go back, Lambert?
[836] Isn't that what they have every Sunday for 17 weeks?
[837] Okay, that's what sending it to me. I would actually like to see.
[838] Look, I don't care.
[839] I could just choose to ignore this.
[840] But I would like to see co -ed.
[841] I, it would actually be interesting to see women try to compete with men because flat football, you're still going to have people running into each other here and there, those mesh routes.
[842] Oh man, you're going to get some collisions.
[843] And so let's see if a woman could actually even play flag football.
[844] Cause I remember a couple of years ago, you talked about that young lady that supposedly was a college football safety.
[845] And I'm thinking, you know, for her own safety, I hope she never plays.
[846] I don't think she ever did, but.
[847] I don't know.
[848] You know, flag football, I've actually seen it played at the international level.
[849] The NFL Network a couple of years ago, they showed some tournament.
[850] And this is what's going to surprise you.
[851] Our American team got absolutely blown out by Team Mexico.
[852] It was females.
[853] I mean, those senoritas were running like some dig routes.
[854] They dusted our women.
[855] I couldn't believe it.
[856] To that, I said, orale, en viva.
[857] But yeah, it is what it is.
[858] So you actually, did you watch or you just saw the score?
[859] No, no, I actually was curious.
[860] There was nothing else on.
[861] So I said, okay, I'll watch this for about an hour.
[862] It's kind of my background noise as I was going through the computer.
[863] And look, there's actually plays or systems that work now and there's actually tournaments.
[864] And I was actually stunned by how much better the women's Mexican national team was better than the Americans.
[865] It was a sad day, sad day for us Patriots.
[866] Better catch them early.
[867] That must have been a young team because we know that the senioritas actually get a little hip start expanding a little bit later.
[868] So I'm sure there was.
[869] Oh, gee.
[870] You went all Charles Barkley.
[871] You went all Charles Barkley and San Antonio there.
[872] Yes, I did.
[873] Yes, I did.
[874] Steve, finally here.
[875] Tom Brady and Snoop Doggy Dog.
[876] They've combined for a video.
[877] I don't know if you can feel it out there in L .A., but we certainly felt it here in Nashville.
[878] This commercial that Tom Brady and Snoop Dogg put out, it's really decreased the level of hatred in Nashville.
[879] I'm sure you can feel the same thing out in Los Angeles.
[880] Let's play the clip.
[881] I hate you because we from different neighborhoods.
[882] I hate you because you look different.
[883] I hate you because I don't understand you.
[884] I hate you because people I know hate you.
[885] I hate you because I think you hate me. Because I need someone to blame.
[886] Because you talk different.
[887] Because you act different.
[888] Because you're just different.
[889] Man, I hate that things are so bad that we have to do a commercial about it.
[890] Me too.
[891] So powerful coming from Snoop, a crip, an unrepentant crip who, you know, has promoted Crips and Bloods, fighting each other to death.
[892] Snoop who threatened violence against Gayle King because she said something Snoop didn't like about Kobe Bryant.
[893] Snoop is the perfect spokesman.
[894] to end hate because he's never dabbled in it.
[895] He's always been a force of positive energy.
[896] Even when he was accused of murder, it wasn't about hate.
[897] That was a total self -defense deal and he was exonerated.
[898] And his music is just a celebration of positivity.
[899] It doesn't promote hatred.
[900] And, you know, the thought of Snoop as a crip hating someone because they're from a different neighborhood never crossed my mind.
[901] Your thoughts.
[902] Yeah, he used to hate people for having the wrong color bandana.
[903] I don't even know what to say.
[904] I guess like Snoop has been one of the more interesting characters.
[905] I mean, here's a guy just literally not too long ago said we shouldn't talk to Trump supporters.
[906] We should hate them.
[907] We should do ill things to them.
[908] calling other people sellout Coon, Uncle Tom, you know, all of the things that they always say.
[909] The next thing you know, the guy is performing for him and his supporters.
[910] I've always thought Snoop was a fascinating guy because I thought he was very fraudulent in a lot of ways.
[911] He's not one of my favorite rappers.
[912] Even being from L .A., I've never really particularly enjoyed his music, to be honest with you.
[913] And as time goes on...
[914] I have conflicted mixed thoughts about the impact of NWA and the whole genre of music that came out from our area.
[915] But Snoop.
[916] Oh, you mean niggas with attitude?
[917] Well, you said it not me. Are you talking about niggas with attitude?
[918] I'm talking about West Coast hip hop.
[919] I'm talking about West Coast hip hop.
[920] A beacon of positivity.
[921] They didn't hate anyone.
[922] They loved Jerry Heller.
[923] What are you talking about?
[924] Well, one of them loved Jerry Heller.
[925] Easy E loved Jerry Heller.
[926] The rest kind of, they kind of broke up from that.
[927] But I don't know what to say about Snoop.
[928] Nothing about him to me is anything that I would take seriously because I don't know how authentic.
[929] In fact, I do know how authentic he is.
[930] Not much.
[931] And I ask this in somewhat seriousness.
[932] If you're Tom Brady, And it seems like Tom Brady will do anything for a check.
[933] But it's like, what's he thinking?
[934] Yeah, me and Snoop Dogg, a crip, we're going to put together a commercial about hatred and about stopping hatred.
[935] Again, it's just like, hey, Tom, they're paying you $37 million a year to broadcast football games.
[936] You made $300 million in the NFL.
[937] Do you really need to?
[938] take this check or do this?
[939] Maybe he didn't even get paid.
[940] Do you really need to do this commercial with Snoop Dogg?
[941] This isn't going to land well.
[942] Where's Tom's discernment in this?
[943] I guess he's the same guy that let his wife hang out with that personal trainer for years.
[944] Where's the discernment?
[945] That's all I'm asking.
[946] Yeah, look, I'll just leave it at this.
[947] This is a worse moment for him than Deflategate.
[948] It really is.
[949] I just wonder, has he gotten to a point where he thinks he just can't say no?
[950] Does he need more money?
[951] The announcing thing is not working out for him.
[952] He's not a natural.
[953] I'm not saying he can't get better.
[954] I don't think he was completely terrible, but he wasn't Tony Romo or Greg Olson.
[955] I'll tell you that much.
[956] And that I really think I remember this like three, four years ago during that very interesting time in American society.
[957] When all of those celebrities and A -listers said, I'm responsible.
[958] It's my fault.
[959] No, it's my fault.
[960] It's my fault.
[961] I'm to blame.
[962] And everyone's like, give me a break.
[963] Basically, Tom is now just one step away from ugly crying like Selena Gomez.
[964] He really, Tom, please stop.
[965] Stop for your own good.
[966] You know what?
[967] This is the latest rendition of.
[968] Self -destruction.
[969] You're headed for self -destruction.
[970] Self -destruction.
[971] Or maybe it's...
[972] Remember the West Coast?
[973] We're all in the same gang?
[974] Yeah, we're all in the same gang.
[975] Which they really weren't.
[976] They were shooting them up bang -bang.
[977] They were not in the same gang, trust me. All right.
[978] Steve, great job as always.
[979] Thank you so much.
[980] We got to keep it moving.
[981] We're going to move on to Shamika Michelle.
[982] Talk a little.
[983] The Democrats held a little gathering panel discussion hosted by MSNBC.
[984] Some bald headed woman named Simone.
[985] And I think Jonathan Capehart was there for the Alphabet Mafia.
[986] And Jen Psaki, the redheaded priestess, was there as well.
[987] And man, did it spin off the rails.
[988] We'll play a clip and me and Shamika will talk about it next.
[989] All right, welcome back.
[990] Time for Shamika Michelle.
[991] Shamika, the Democrats had a little gathering.
[992] I'm not sure where.
[993] Maybe Washington, D .C., I would guess.
[994] That's probably where the crew of MSNBC hangs out.
[995] But, man, it did not go well.
[996] It was really, really, really crazy and chaotic.
[997] Let's let's show you a compilation of what this forum moderated by his woman's name, Simone Sanders or Simone something.
[998] Is it is Sanders last name?
[999] Simone, Jen Psaki, one other person.
[1000] Yeah, the the the anyway, the Alphabet Mafia rep, Jonathan Capehart.
[1001] Let's play the clip.
[1002] Fight on when your government is doing you wrong.
[1003] You fight on, oh, you fight on.
[1004] Hey, I am speaking, and I would love your attention.
[1005] There is a black woman at this podium, and I deserve your attention.
[1006] Sorry I was late.
[1007] I got pulled over for a DEI on my way over.
[1008] We need a big tent.
[1009] You do not.
[1010] Pardon me. Thank you all so much.
[1011] No, I'm sorry.
[1012] Everyone, please.
[1013] We cannot.
[1014] I am going to.
[1015] I am going to ask.
[1016] I am going to.
[1017] I am going to ask if the audience would please give us an opportunity to ask the questions.
[1018] And if you are not going to give us an opportunity to ask the questions, we are going to simply ask you to leave.
[1019] If anyone else feels the need to disrupt, please stand up and do it right now.
[1020] Yeah, I want to give you your opportunity Excuse me excuse me excuse me security, please If you take the time to watch the full thing and watch the Simone, the bald -headed woman, try to lead this deal with Jonathan Capehart, the little she -man, playing the back.
[1021] It's like they have no man to take control of this situation.
[1022] They've put a bald -headed woman in charge, and then the little she -man, and then the red -headed priestess, Jen Psaki.
[1023] It was...
[1024] Chaotic.
[1025] It made me go, holy cow.
[1026] You know, the woman we played singing at the beginning, she wanted to be the head of the DNC, and she was asked to provide an opening statement, and she went into song.
[1027] And this seemed like a Saturday Night Live skit, and instead it's the Democratic Party.
[1028] It's funny, but it's not funny because this party somehow represents Half of America and half of America is comfortable with these this group of clowns representing them.
[1029] And most black people support the Democrat Party.
[1030] And we know it's what, like 90 percent of black women that support the Democrat Party.
[1031] So if fat black women are the most delusional, I would say ball.
[1032] Black women have to be second in command.
[1033] You know, this it was a joke, Jason.
[1034] When I saw the woman start out singing, I fall out laughing every time I see it, because what what are you doing?
[1035] How is this part of you leading an entire committee?
[1036] I thought it was really funny, but it just shows that they haven't learned anything from this election.
[1037] They keep saying that it was because she was a woman.
[1038] So it's misogyny.
[1039] or it's race because she was a so -called black woman.
[1040] No, it's the theatrics that you all have with your party, the foolishness, the 72 genders, you know, not knowing what a woman is.
[1041] All of this is why you all are losing.
[1042] And it's so funny to me because Trump has been in office, what, two weeks?
[1043] And I'm seeing them say, oh, you know, you all were tricked.
[1044] The price of eggs haven't gone down.
[1045] It's been two weeks.
[1046] You all allowed things to be the way they were for four years.
[1047] Please don't come in thinking in two weeks things would be changed.
[1048] So it's just ridiculous that they haven't learned anything.
[1049] But I'm actually grateful.
[1050] I hope they stay on this path so that we can get J .D. Vance in in 2028.
[1051] I want them to keep being delusional, which if we keep saying that black women are the backbone of the Democrat Party, They're going to keep being delusional and things are just going to get worse.
[1052] I hope they don't change.
[1053] I hope they don't see the light.
[1054] And I hope we can just keep enjoying the clowns in the circus.
[1055] The highlight moment for me was the woman.
[1056] I'm talking.
[1057] A black woman is talking.
[1058] And she thought that that expression, that shouting of that would make everybody.
[1059] Democrats, stop what you're doing.
[1060] Stop the chaos.
[1061] A black woman is talking.
[1062] She thinks there's so much reverence for her skin color and her vagina that like, oh, this will make people calm down and shut up.
[1063] I just need to announce that I'm black and have a vagina.
[1064] And this is what she thinks about her party and who they think that they worship and respect the most.
[1065] someone with black skin and a vagina.
[1066] It's not good for the Democrat brand.
[1067] It's not good for, I just don't know how people that claim to have some, because again, the first black woman starts out basically singing a song of protest that kind of sounds like a hymn and it sounds kind of churchy.
[1068] And I'm sure she thinks she's one of the most devout Christians.
[1069] in the world, and I know many Democrats think that they can support this kind of lunacy, the idolatry of skin color, the idolatry of sexual identity, the idolatry of child sacrifice through abortion.
[1070] You can do all that and you're still in great state.
[1071] I'm still the most Christian person on the planet.
[1072] The delusion.
[1073] of the backbone of their party and the people that, I just wonder what Jen, what do you think Jen Psaki was sitting there thinking as she watched all the, and again, many of the people shouting from the audience were white folks, but I just wonder what Jen Psaki was sitting there thinking about, like, is this, can we really build something here?
[1074] You know.
[1075] As a black person, I'm used to chaos and loud and women talking over everybody and women talking to me. I'm very used to that.
[1076] I just wonder.
[1077] And look, Jen Psaki is a feminist, so she's probably used to it, too, and thinks it's appropriate.
[1078] But anyway, the redheaded priest is I just I was just what does she think?
[1079] What does she think is going on here?
[1080] You know, I would love to be a fly on the wall just to see what she's saying in her.
[1081] in her home behind closed doors, talking to her friends.
[1082] I would think if she has any ounce of sense that she's saying, I totally screwed up.
[1083] I messed up here.
[1084] But it's like, you know, for most women, there's no apology.
[1085] There's no roundabout, you know, no turn, you know, turn around.
[1086] She's going to just keep going until it's her own demise because she actually left.
[1087] kind of, you know, so to speak, our side to go to that side.
[1088] And now she's there and now she's completely engulfed in it.
[1089] She's not going to be able to get out.
[1090] She will probably just continue on until she has to retire and maybe put out some type of memoir or a book to just say how ridiculous she felt and how she just couldn't turn around.
[1091] You know, it's funny to me, especially when you say she was the woman was shouting.
[1092] There's a black woman up here.
[1093] Well, why is it always a black woman with somebody else's hair?
[1094] You know, you never can say there's a black woman and it's completely just you being in your natural glory.
[1095] If you're so confident and comfortable, give them their hair back.
[1096] You know, at least I have to say Simone says, well, maybe I can't grow my own, but I'm definitely not going to wear somebody else's.
[1097] So I have to give her kudos for that because they sit up there looking so crazy in somebody else's hair.
[1098] Yet they have the nerve to always say white women want to be them.
[1099] It is just so funny to me, Jason.
[1100] I love watching it.
[1101] I could probably just pop me some popcorn and watch.
[1102] all day because it's such a circus.
[1103] And I miss Ringling Brothers and Barnum and Bailey Circus.
[1104] I miss it.
[1105] So I just watch the Democrat Party and the black women and say, you know, this is great.
[1106] This is great entertainment.
[1107] I love it.
[1108] Shabika, that was great entertainment and I loved it.
[1109] But I'm so glad we had this time together.
[1110] Now it's time to move on.
[1111] Before we go, there was a black woman in the chat.
[1112] Actually, he had a black man's name, I guess.
[1113] But yesterday he insinuated that I was lying about Tina Knowles.
[1114] being in my IG story.
[1115] So Justin said he was going to have the proof up today.
[1116] I just want to let them know.
[1117] You may be used to your woman lying to you or some woman lying to you, but I have no reason to lie, sweetheart.
[1118] I'm not her.
[1119] Now I can rest.
[1120] So that's Beyonce's mama up in your IG.
[1121] Yes.
[1122] There we go.
[1123] I don't understand why anybody would think that you would lie.
[1124] You've never lied on this show.
[1125] I've never met anyone that keeps it more transparent and real.
[1126] Maybe he should read your book.
[1127] Maybe.
[1128] And he wouldn't have these type questions.
[1129] Anyway, thank you, Shamika.
[1130] Great job.
[1131] Thank you.
[1132] We'll see you tomorrow.
[1133] We'll play tomorrow, and we'll see you tomorrow.
[1134] Countdown coming off the breakdown Standing in line for freedom Looking for a breakout Feeling like a standoff Nothing in line like freedom Came in like a fighter Striking like a ladder Making all these moves for freedom I want freedom I just want, I want to be, I just want.