Local Hour: The Tua Stuff Is Weird, Huh?

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[21] I don't know, Chris, if you overheard some of what we were talking about around your father and his aging process and how it is that he becomes more and more discombobulated easily.

[22] throw jury duty into his week and you've screwed up his week in a way just the idea of him having to make a phone call to find out if he has jury duty will send his entire week off the rails he has a routine and part of that routine is not calling anyone monday at five o 'clock that's right not worrying about responsibilities and not knowing where he'll be Tuesday morning it's something that leaves him really scattered but when he left here yesterday he's not here today because he was indeed called for jury duty a I cannot wait to find out where that ended up.

[23] Stugats revealed to me that as he left the studio, your father was muttering under his breath saying that he hopes that some people don't come to his birthday party because he's invited more people than the boat can hold.

[24] I don't even know if that's true, but he's panicking about everything these days.

[25] This is actually good to hear because I can't.

[26] make it because I have a previous commitment that day and I haven't figured out how I could say that because we made like a big deal about wanting to be invited and then when I saw the date I'm like I can't I can't go so like I keep getting like little nudges via whatever the app is that like this invitation is from from Chris's mom yeah like I don't know well enough and I wanted to like reach out and be like hi Mrs. Cody like I have bad news for you like I have a work commitment that day I can't go to this party, but I don't know how to do that.

[27] You can just say that.

[28] I think she'll be fine.

[29] I caved in.

[30] You RSVPed correctly.

[31] I know.

[32] That was crazy.

[33] Plus one.

[34] Yeah, but you have to understand that him RSVP doesn't mean anything other than he'll take up the space if he doesn't show up.

[35] Someone won't be able to go in the event he doesn't show up.

[36] I just wanted the text to stop.

[37] I mean, I have to be honest.

[38] Your mom.

[39] Yes, I'll be there.

[40] I'll figure out my way out afterwards.

[41] My mom's been aggressively.

[42] RSVPing people.

[43] Yes.

[44] She's been, it's been too much and your father is genuinely concerned that he doesn't have a big enough boat.

[45] We're going to need a bigger boat like they said in jaws because he's invited.

[46] There are too many people invited.

[47] And yesterday, I didn't hear this part.

[48] Sugatz and Greg were talking privately in this room about people he hopes don't come.

[49] And I didn't over hear that conversation.

[50] That was the most private of the inner circle between Stugats and Greg Cody.

[51] I may have been one of them for all I know.

[52] I mean, when you have a boat that holds a certain amount of people and you've over -invited, you are hoping you have a list of people that you are banking on that will not show up to your birthday party.

[53] And so I ask Greg, that's got to stay between me and Greg.

[54] I mean, for now.

[55] But we know it's Chris's mom's coworkers.

[56] He said that on air.

[57] Not saying anything.

[58] I kind of want to go with my dad to jury duty today.

[59] Can we check in on him a few times and call him?

[60] I don't think you can't.

[61] We'll just call him from the waiting room.

[62] I don't know.

[63] I just like the idea of checking in on him.

[64] I think you can.

[65] I don't think they banned phones in there.

[66] I was on my phone the whole time I did jury duty.

[67] I'm on the invitation now.

[68] Stugats and you missed this and this is like a horrible decision by this company.

[69] There's a little button that says decide later for the RSVP.

[70] That's the one I clicked.

[71] Not a no. There's a decide later.

[72] I missed that.

[73] I was all over that one.

[74] Well, that's why she keeps aggressively sending you guys the text.

[75] You guys are all hitting snooze on our RSVP.

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[80] I know you all know this.

[81] I know I'm not.

[82] not going to be surprising anybody with what is an obvious observation that has been so for a while, but I think it bears noting nonetheless.

[83] The TWA stuff is weird, man. It's super strange the way everyone reacts around TWA.

[84] In the history of South Florida, for me, it's been LeBron polarizing, understood it.

[85] University of Miami football team polarizing controversial understood it and it's Tua don't understand it he is a fundamentally decent person the history of South Florida sports if it's Antoine Walker if it's Eddie Jones if it's Shemal Mashburn it's a bunch of people where the hope resides on ah is he good enough that part I get with Tua as he good enough is he good enough for me to dare to hope but he's not arrogant he's fundamentally decent.

[86] The people in South Florida's history that have created this kind of stir tend to be the guys who are actually lightning rods.

[87] It's Alonzo Morning.

[88] He looks like he's going to spit at you at all times.

[89] This is a fundamentally decent human being.

[90] And the number of people that I heard from yesterday, Stugats, that I don't normally hear from, veteran NFL people, all of them surprised because they're like, oh, the quarterback never does that publicly.

[91] And that quarterback certainly doesn't do it.

[92] Right.

[93] And so there was genuine surprise among cynical NFL types that were all like, whoa, he really needed to get that off his chest about how poorly treated he was by Brian Flores.

[94] I'd like to give Chris some credit because I believe that his presence made too uncomfortable.

[95] Wow, thank you.

[96] Yeah, I agree.

[97] I really do.

[98] Yeah, I gave him a little hug, a little dapp right when he walked in.

[99] You're home here.

[100] This is a safe place.

[101] That's what he felt.

[102] Well done.

[103] A lot of this happening, with Coach Jason Brown of Last Chance You.

[104] Maybe the truth hurts to, and we've become so soft that these kids need sweet nothings whispered in their ears at an all -time high.

[105] Flores is a coach for men in the man's league.

[106] This is no longer that.

[107] A lot of people calling the guy who's risking brain injury soft.

[108] Are they forgetting he played for Nick Sabin?

[109] I know.

[110] He can't handle a tough coach.

[111] What's happening there?

[112] Like, what, how, how do any of you have the audacity to call someone who makes their living in professional football soft?

[113] Like, what, what am I, what has happened to the discourse on the internet that this is something that people feel is in any way reasonable?

[114] Because the amount of discourse and the amount of discord around this quarterback, it's not reasonable.

[115] Right.

[116] coaches are funny, Dan, and fans' reaction to how coaches coach is, to me, even funnier.

[117] But if you're a coach and you think you have 70 players and you could treat them all the same way, there's a blanket way to treat all your players, I got news for you.

[118] You're a bad coach.

[119] You have to learn what makes your players tick, what makes them thrive, what allows you to get the best out of a certain player, and you're hearing from a lot of old school guys because this is what coaches love.

[120] hey you have to go through some adversity hey you have to be yelled at no you don't no you don't because perhaps by doing that you won't get the best out of me if i come in every day you tell me how good i am you'll get the best out of me people are different people experience criticism different to it doesn't like it i would say that most people don't like criticism athletes are better at handling it than most because they come up through a pipeline of a whole bunch of coaches who are their failure all the time.

[121] So they're better.

[122] The athletes in my experience that I have met are much better at treating failure as learning than other people who are...

[123] The average person is much more sensitive to criticism than the average football player.

[124] Yeah, but not all...

[125] You can't make a blanket statement like that for all professional athletes.

[126] Some of them, they'll act like they like it.

[127] They'll act like they're okay with it.

[128] They want to fit in.

[129] They're a tough guy.

[130] I can take it.

[131] Coach is yelling at me, but no. Inside, Dan, some of them are hurting.

[132] They don't like it.

[133] They don't want it.

[134] It's not the way they want to be coached.

[135] I am not saying to you that there's a blanket I can throw over all athletes.

[136] I'm simply telling you that through the pipeline they come up with, they come up through.

[137] They either get tough or they get weeded out because the criticism is nonstop.

[138] It's everywhere.

[139] It's correction.

[140] It's filed under growth and improvement.

[141] I think they're actually better at taking criticism than being made fun of.

[142] Prime example being the ESPie Awards with Norm McDonald.

[143] Yes.

[144] Criticism is coaching.

[145] Like that's, we can file it however you want.

[146] There's no disputing that the coach of the Dolphins now is willing to behave like an ally.

[147] And Belichick doesn't have a job because he taught people like Flores how to behave that way without getting any of the results.

[148] because all those guys, Charlie Weiss, all of his disciples behaved that way.

[149] And Belichick's not working right now because somebody didn't trust him to do it that way.

[150] The part that was interesting to me is the need for the unburdening when everyone at Dolphin Camp knew all of that was so.

[151] They saw how it happened.

[152] And Stugats, I would say to you, anybody listening to this, you come out of college, you're a college kid, put in the furnace of here's the most difficult position in sports.

[153] Figure all of it out quickly.

[154] And also your coach isn't on your side.

[155] And your offensive line is the worst one.

[156] In football and your receivers have the worst separation in the league.

[157] That will wreck a David Carr before he gets started.

[158] A number one draft pick gets ruined because the offensive line can't block.

[159] The receivers can't get any separation.

[160] And next thing you know, his confidence is totally shot.

[161] And if you don't have confidence, you cannot play that position.

[162] It cannot be played well without confidence.

[163] And in his case, he didn't have the back.

[164] of his own owner.

[165] And a lot of people took issue with that.

[166] Like, hey, if you get to take out Flores, take out your owner, he didn't believe in you either.

[167] I feel like it needs to be said.

[168] It helps to have encouragement and have a nice working environment.

[169] It also helps to have Tyree Kill.

[170] You could believe in your quarterback and also, if Tom Brady's potentially available, try to get Tom Brady.

[171] To Sean Watson as well.

[172] Well, I mean, they were upgrades at the time.

[173] The owner didn't do the daily barrage of confidential.

[174] sucking, Stugats, where the quarterback is giving voice to, imagine you get up every morning and you don't actually want to go into where it is you're going because you don't feel supported.

[175] Oh, no, I understand that, Dan.

[176] I'm just giving you some of the reaction to, you know, what people heard yesterday.

[177] And they're like, hey, if you're going to take out him, take out your owner.

[178] He was going after Deshawn Watson and Tom Brady.

[179] I don't think, who's saying that?

[180] Chris Canney, I mean.

[181] You're just, what are you doing?

[182] Evan Cohen.

[183] Okay, so a show that you were listening to, it was on all the shows that.

[184] This is a thing that ended up spreading, and Armando Salgaro writes, Tua taking everyone behind the curtain and admitting something well chronicled that Brian Flores was not for him and actually was against him to the point of wanting him replaced, will make some, perhaps even the quarterback, feel good about a painful chapter.

[185] But how does this unburdening help the 2024 Dolphins?

[186] The open road ahead is more important than the wreck behind.

[187] Only way bringing this up could help the 2024 Dolphins is if Tua approves his rough time with flow made him somehow stronger, which is what difficult life experiences often do for people.

[188] Regular season is less than three weeks away.

[189] Make everything about that not three years ago.

[190] Tua knows what he's doing when he answers that question that way.

[191] He's lived in this pool of lightning for long enough that he knows what's going to happen when he calls Brian Flores a terrible person.

[192] He knows that Brian Flores is today going to have to answer questions about that in Minnesota.

[193] He needed, I would say, pop psychology's got somewhere in growing up with the contract and the safety of job security, if not the safety of your physical health and a sport that can leave you concussed, he wanted to shoot across the league.

[194] I'm here now, and I don't keep my mouth closed if something's bothering me. We were surprised last year when he went after Ryan Clark in a press conference, right?

[195] Because he doesn't do that.

[196] He knows what he's doing when he sits next to Chris Cody in those tight shorts.

[197] Comfortable.

[198] Nice shorts, by that.

[199] I'm wearing him today.

[200] He's the one who reveals himself.

[201] Wash him.

[202] Again?

[203] You're wearing the shorts again?

[204] They were in my hamper.

[205] Are those Viori?

[206] Yeah, they are, actually.

[207] Nice.

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[222] Don Lebertard.

[223] All right, we got to go back out there.

[224] That was big.

[225] Wake him up.

[226] Uh -oh.

[227] He doesn't want to be bothered anymore.

[228] Now it's getting tense because he didn't need that as a result.

[229] He needs something that happens.

[230] You can see it.

[231] Mother Ethel.

[232] Can we bother?

[233] Are we bothering you right now?

[234] Turn on your microphone, Greg.

[235] My microphone's on.

[236] Stugats.

[237] Paint the scene.

[238] The paint the scene is I've got to go to work.

[239] Good night.

[240] This is the Dan Lebatar show with the Stugats.

[241] A lot of compliments on your short shorts?

[242] Those are not short shorts.

[243] I would expecting to be outside.

[244] I know you want to mention slacks.

[245] He told us the night before we were inside.

[246] When does Dan know exactly where we're going to be?

[247] I sent you pictures of where we were going to be.

[248] I saw those slacks of like, hey, we could be here.

[249] There's also an outside tent.

[250] I saw pictures of an outside tented area.

[251] Chris has a point.

[252] It is camp.

[253] You know, you've got to go with a campy feel, campy look.

[254] He doesn't have a point.

[255] I mean, Dan sent us a picture the night before.

[256] It was inside.

[257] It was air condition.

[258] There were couches.

[259] It's exactly where we were sitting.

[260] I knew Jalen Phillips was going to show up with short shorts.

[261] So I was kind of doing a thing.

[262] And if you think the Tua thing made a lot of news, wait until you hear River Craycraft.

[263] Oh, my God.

[264] What happened with you and your support system when you were maligned and dragged internationally yesterday for being on the couch in a way that was less than flattering?

[265] I actually got a bunch of text from people just being like, hey, man, I watched the whole interview, and you were good in it.

[266] You helped out.

[267] I felt like yesterday we drew a lot of attention to how awkward I looked in my shorts, and I added some value to the interview if you watched the whole thing.

[268] You did.

[269] Thank you.

[270] This is the support that you got from all over the Internet.

[271] My friends just being like, you did good.

[272] You brought good energy there.

[273] But everyone agreed.

[274] The takeaway was whoever put you in the middle, you just set you up to lose.

[275] It's a bad spot.

[276] It doesn't matter if you're hanging out with friends, whether you're doing an interview, there's never a situation where the middle of a couch is the spot to be.

[277] Listen, Dan, when you're guys like me and Chris, we're not the stars of the show.

[278] You're the star of the show.

[279] It says the Dan Lebitard show, according to the Dan Lebitard show.

[280] What you need is a few close friends.

[281] She's just sending you a text acknowledging that you were there.

[282] Thank you.

[283] that you did something, that you asked a question, that you made somebody smile.

[284] You need it.

[285] I needed it.

[286] Chris Cody left that interview lamenting to me via text.

[287] I really fell flat when I asked him to play the air guitar.

[288] That question didn't go anywhere.

[289] That part, yeah.

[290] Because he didn't have his regular guitar.

[291] So what do you do?

[292] You say, hey, if you don't have your regular guitar, play some air guitar for us.

[293] And it was as awkward as you can imagine.

[294] So people are mad at Tua for being honest.

[295] And I also didn't realize Brian Flores has so many fans.

[296] fans in the sports media and across the world.

[297] I had no idea because people are concerned about Brian Flores and the campaign smear that Tua laid on him yesterday.

[298] It's ridiculous.

[299] Do you guys not think this is weird?

[300] The whole thing is weird.

[301] Can you just observe it from all of your different angles?

[302] Jessica, Roy, Billy.

[303] Like, do you not think it's strange the way people react to this quarterback?

[304] Unreasonable.

[305] Yeah, you know, I've learned people are going to people.

[306] There was people, peopling.

[307] It's what happens.

[308] He's a lightning rod.

[309] Well, also kind of not really saying much.

[310] I mean, he said it in this interview.

[311] But before that, he was like very just.

[312] But why?

[313] He doesn't understand it, and I don't understand it.

[314] Is it just, can you give me a better?

[315] He's never one of playoff game?

[316] Can you give me a better theory than this one?

[317] Something more reasonable than what I'm about to say.

[318] Eddie Jones, Jamal Mashburn, Antoine Walker.

[319] These were players that were criticized, and at least in part, because there were really high hopes.

[320] Zoh, too, Alonzo Morning, really high hopes, and you were always questioning whether those players were good enough to beat Michael Jordan.

[321] And they weren't, and you knew they weren't, and so that was part of the polarization combined with their personalities.

[322] In this case, the dolphins have a season of hope for the first time this century, because they have a good offense he's the centerpiece of that but you still wonder would he look like that if I injured Tyreek Hill for six games and you wonder it even though he's done okay when Tyree Kill hasn't been out there well that's the thing is that he's done just enough to keep everyone still wondering and not 100 % sure one way or another like usually by this point in someone's career because there was hype around to him people were tanking for Tua until he got hurt and then he dropped He obviously wasn't the number one pick.

[323] He fell to the dolphins at five or whatever it was, right?

[324] So people wanted him to either be great or not be great, and he's been good enough so far, but you don't know why he's been good enough.

[325] Is it him?

[326] Is it Tyree Kill?

[327] Is it Mike McDaniel?

[328] I don't know.

[329] So I think people at this point are just frustrated because there's no answer right now as to who's right and who's wrong.

[330] And people want to be right or wrong, and you still don't know, is to a good or is he not good, and who wins this right or wrong battle.

[331] And we're like four years in now, and people are tired of this battle.

[332] So anything that happens, they want to either pounds on him and say, I was right, he sucks or I was right.

[333] He's the best quarterback ever.

[334] And he gives you just enough to have both camps still wondering what the answer is.

[335] And it was the same case at Alabama, right?

[336] Like, he came in surrounded by so much talent.

[337] We saw so much Tua on national TV after he throws a touchdown to win a national championship game in which he didn't even start.

[338] And so there's all of this feeling of, oh, Tua's propped up by all this talent.

[339] And now I think people feel the same with the Dolphins.

[340] He's the reason Jalen Hertz had to transfer to Oklahoma.

[341] That's right.

[342] I mean, think about that.

[343] The thing that he did, though, that wasn't there before is statistically the way we measure these things, no matter who's responsible for it.

[344] When he was throwing the ball last season, he was doing so quicker and more decisively than any quarterback in the league.

[345] And he was doing it in all top five offensive stats that if I didn't give you the name and just showed you the numbers, you'd be like, that's a great quarterback.

[346] If I'm just showing you the numbers, you'd be like, I have no doubt about what this quarterback is.

[347] This isn't even Brock Purdy.

[348] This is a quarterback.

[349] You draft a quarterback top five, and those are the numbers you get.

[350] That's a quarterback who's a franchise quarterback.

[351] Well, yeah, and he led the league in passing.

[352] It was a down year in terms of yardage and leading league in passing, but you have the out which the people that want to discredit him in, well, it was Tyree Kill.

[353] Well, look at the weapons he has.

[354] He's just throwing it short.

[355] Tyree Kill then gets all of the yak there.

[356] That's what the excuses are for everyone.

[357] That's not empirically true, though, on Tyreek Hill.

[358] I mean, facts don't matter anymore.

[359] It's just whatever people want to say is the argument that they're going to make.

[360] And then, Tua, in a sense, doesn't help himself in the interview, which is like one of the stranger admissions, which didn't get as much play, which was, yeah, we were just trying to get Tyreek 2 ,000 yards, which is like, oh, okay, but like, also we should be trying to win a playoff game if we're the Dolphins, not just getting Tyreek Hill 2 ,000 yards.

[361] But Dan is talking about why he's so polarizing.

[362] you don't get this reaction with Jordan Love.

[363] He just signed the same contract.

[364] I mean, and the body of work is not what two is this.

[365] He had eight games.

[366] No one said a word when Jordan Love signed that contract.

[367] In fact, they praised the Packers.

[368] Good job.

[369] But Jordan Love also wasn't playing for the first couple years of his career because he was sitting behind Aaron Rogers.

[370] So there was lots of questions of Jordan Love.

[371] Even last year at the start of the season, I think there were questions of Jordan Love.

[372] And then he became one of the best quarterbacks in football for the second half.

[373] And now he gets the deal.

[374] And now you have to see who actually is, George.

[375] But if you're trying to find out what the difference is, it's that Jordan Love went to Dallas and beat the Cowboys on the road and playoffs, right?

[376] That's it.

[377] And when he's out of the pocket on defense, you're terrified.

[378] He makes plays.

[379] And when Tua's out of the pocket, you're like, this is going to probably work out well for us on defense.

[380] To the Tewa and Tyree Kill point also, like you saw a point in last year's season where while Tira, or while Tua is, you know, leading the league in passing and he's up there in all those numbers, the conversation is, is Tireke Hill the MVP of the league?

[381] It wasn't even is Tua.

[382] There was a point.

[383] where it's like, well, Tua is maybe in the mix for MVP, and then it became, well, Tyree Hill is the MVP of the Dolphins.

[384] Can I ask you guys about the psychology of this part, you would acknowledge to me, given the specific set of circumstances that had him contemplating retirement and his mother telling him that he should retire, that Tua has gotten pretty good at decisive risk versus reward in all aspects of his life.

[385] the choice to do this yesterday with what it invites Stugats.

[386] It's so much easier to be quiet.

[387] It's so much easier to not say anything that could be a headline for any reason.

[388] It's what every other quarterback does.

[389] It's why veteran NFL people I do not normally hear from were like, holy shit, I can't believe that position and that dude said that.

[390] If he's good at risk versus reward, do you know how seething the rage has to be about how he feels about what Brian Flores did to him for him to choose that risk, Stugat?

[391] Because the only reward is he gets it off his chest.

[392] There are no other rewards.

[393] What are the other rewards?

[394] There are none as far as I could see, but that's a valuable reward to get that off your chest.

[395] He's been holding that inside for a long time.

[396] I know people at Dolphins Camp will say, hey, we knew about this.

[397] He doesn't have to say it publicly.

[398] Stugatsi hasn't for years.

[399] But it probably felt good for him to say it publicly, which is, to me, there's value there for him.

[400] Well, in the off season, he proved Brian Flores wrong by signing the deal, right?

[401] Like, you had the guy that didn't believe in him that said you don't belong, and he finally signed the deal.

[402] So he finally, even with all the people questioning around him, in a sense, proved him wrong.

[403] And, like, it's not a huge risky move for him because there'll be a little bit of, you know, talking about it yesterday and today.

[404] maybe, you know, they'll ask Brian Flores, whatever.

[405] But, like, Brian Flores isn't at the top of his career right now.

[406] Like, he's a coordinator.

[407] Brian Flores isn't at the top of his game.

[408] They're not going to play the Vikings.

[409] So he had a chance to take a shot at someone who was not a good person to him in his view, and he took it.

[410] But it's not a big risky play, because what are the actual consequences of it?

[411] The reason I say it's a risk is because other quarterbacks aren't doing it because they invite.

[412] This was, Mike McDaniel was being asked about this yesterday.

[413] He's like, I'm laser focused on this thing.

[414] Like, it's all that distraction.

[415] action bullshit because we need to feed the content machine in August because football's around the corner and YouTube wants to charge you $700 for the NFL Sunday ticket.

[416] That's ridiculous.

[417] I'm telling you, I'm thinking about going back to old school, you know, in terms of consumption of football, Dan, where I just get the CBS game of the week.

[418] I get the Fox game of the week.

[419] The old bunny ears.

[420] Oh, I love it.

[421] Whatever game I get, I get.

[422] I mean, that's it.

[423] You don't want that.

[424] You're so full of shit.

[425] As if that happened to you, you'd be like, oh, this is great.

[426] Great.

[427] You would never get the Jets.

[428] Saints Falcons at 4 o 'clock, great.

[429] You get every Dolphin get.

[430] Football game in 10 years.

[431] You hear what you're saying anymore.

[432] 345 Dexon Drem Commercial.

[433] It's high budget.

[434] To save money, you guys are criticizing me. He's calling me a liar.

[435] Rent a different car every week.

[436] That's not true either.

[437] Can you guys give me some more information on this Gostin, chairless, the former first round pick in football, a very large man who was on a flight to Ireland and allegedly urinated on someone and the flight had to go back to Boston, which is really terrible for everyone involved, that they would have to watch this former first round pick, 330 -something pounds, wander around, hit a passenger allegedly, urinate on another passenger, and they're like, turn it around, let's get that flight back from Ireland back to Boston.

[438] Is there a way they can, like, vote?

[439] Like, all right, passengers, what do you think?

[440] Are we turning around here?

[441] Like, what if I spit on someone?

[442] Is it any bodily fluid?

[443] Like, I feel like if I'm a passenger, seven rows back, I'm like, I'm cool with keep going.

[444] That's actually a fair question.

[445] But who's going to, like, jurisdictionally, when you're in Ireland, who's going to then, you don't want to arrest someone in another country?

[446] I don't know.

[447] It just seems like a mess.

[448] Although it's the airport.

[449] I don't know.

[450] Stand up in front of the plane, say sorry to everyone.

[451] This is a substantive crime.

[452] This is going to come with a great.

[453] deal of headaches for Gostin Cherillus, if I'm pronouncing his name correctly, I want to ask the question because he's blaming sleep medication that he had not tried before.

[454] And I've talked about this before.

[455] Many years ago, probably 20 years ago, somebody got up during a flight and was so drunk that they took a crap on the service cart.

[456] That's a thing that happened.

[457] And we talked about it on this show saying, how drunk do you have to be to do something like that in front of?

[458] of people, urinating on a passenger, on a flight, when there are these kinds of consequences, I do think sleep medication can do that.

[459] I do, I want to give this.

[460] Make you wake up and urinate on people?

[461] I want to give this person the benefit of the doubt.

[462] I do believe sleep medication, if you get the wrong one, can alter you, but I doubt very much that anyone listening to this is willing to extend that kind of benefit of the doubt to the urinator.

[463] You never been really sleepy and gotten up and kind of walked into the wrong room and gone to pee before?

[464] You've done this?

[465] I mean, I'm not saying how hammered for you.

[466] But I've got some friends that, you know, similar scenarios.

[467] I know someone that's done this.

[468] They like sleptwalked and peed in their closet.

[469] I think it was like my uncle.

[470] I have a friend that once peed on a computer keyboard who was so hammered.

[471] My daughter peed on me yesterday, but it's because my mother -in -law put a water diaper on her instead of a regular diaper so the pee goes right through.

[472] Those water diapers.

[473] What?

[474] Water diaper?

[475] I don't know what this is.

[476] is basically, you don't know what I water, you have a child.

[477] Feels counterintuitive.

[478] So the water diaper, basically, if you pee in the water diaper, like the peepee goes in the pool, but it catches the poop.

[479] Because then it doesn't have little gels or whatever that absorb the peepee when you go peepee.

[480] So like, if you go in the pool with a regular diaper, those gels then become like full of water.

[481] It would absorb the whole pool.

[482] Exactly right.

[483] So, and then your pool has no water.

[484] I have noticed in my parenting years that when you, when you're having a pool day with a big group of kids, there are just two ways of thinking.

[485] Like some parents lean into, you.

[486] You know, You can pee in the pool.

[487] And some parents are like, you get out of that pool and you tell me when you have to pee.

[488] And if you, if those conflict, like my daughter, I'm going to be honest.

[489] You can tell by looking at me. We're teaching pee in the pool.

[490] Right in the pool.

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[512] Don Lebatard.

[513] Cheaters never prosper.

[514] Stugats.

[515] I ain't cheating.

[516] This is the Dan Lebatar show with a Stugat.

[517] We were about to start with Stugats' day late weekend observation, but Billy piped into my headset with some breaking news.

[518] He is saying that Nick Wright is making a formal public play right now for the top spot in all of debate television because he has dared to go where no person has gone before this offseason.

[519] he has a top five list of the quarterbacks with the most pressure on the list.

[520] I went there three weeks ago, I mean.

[521] Yeah, but you're not.

[522] Well, here's the thing.

[523] You know how there's Stevens A -list that he does every day?

[524] And then there's Mad Dog's A -list.

[525] So apparently Nick Wright has a segment where it's called Nick Wright.

[526] Or it's called Nick makes a list.

[527] So Nick also has an A -list that he makes.

[528] And his list today is top five quarterbacks under the most pressure this season, according to Nick.

[529] Can you hold on for a second?

[530] If I must.

[531] Yes, just for a second, just because you mentioned Mad Dog, and he was railing against the Mets for having the Hock to a girl throw out the first pitch.

[532] We're going to flow in a girl there who, you know, went on a YouTube thing and in magazines telling you how to, you know, do a sexual function.

[533] Really?

[534] That's what we're going to do.

[535] Have you seen the video?

[536] On camp day, on camp day at a day game at Shea Stadium.

[537] She wouldn't know Tommy A .G. from Jerry Coosman.

[538] Yeah, we're going to let us flow out the first pitch.

[539] That's what?

[540] That's not the.

[541] Nobody's going to watch the Mets and the A's because she's throwing out the first pitch.

[542] This idea that she's going to bring new eyeballs to sets.

[543] John, what non -baseball fan is going to tune in after she throws the pitch to watch the A's and the Mets on a Thursday day in August?

[544] They're not doing that.

[545] So the idea that somehow, some way you expose your team to a new audience is a bunch of nonsense.

[546] If you're in Nashville, Tennessee, or if you're a country, music star, and you haven't caught the baseball bug yet, you're not going to catch it because she flows out the first pitch with a team that's 30 under 500 in Oakland and a team that's 500 when you're the Mets.

[547] That's not going to happen.

[548] Roy, what are you laughing about?

[549] She wouldn't know Tommy Agee, but Jerry Cushman.

[550] Well, he's right about that.

[551] And he also, like, listen, his point was made when he said Camp Day.

[552] That was a great point.

[553] I didn't realize that when we watched the clip originally.

[554] If there's a stadium full of kids there, that's awkward.

[555] I think I read that she was there, like, on behalf of, like, a pet adoption thing that she's, like, working with to get pets adopted.

[556] By the way, can I just say this about her?

[557] One incredible that we're still talking about her, like, a month and a half in.

[558] Like, everybody thought, like, she has 15 minutes of fame if she waited way too long to capitalize.

[559] The fact that this is still going on is incredible.

[560] Two, she seems like a great friend because I don't know what her brunette friend's name is, but her brunette friend that was in the video with her originally is at all of these things with her.

[561] Bad job by her that no one knows what her name is, but she's in the back.

[562] background of absolutely everything that Haley is doing running around.

[563] She threw out the first pitch to her brunette friend.

[564] It wasn't even she threw out the first pitch to Mr. Met, miss met, whatever.

[565] She threw it out to her friend, and her friend is everywhere with her, but she's the one that's not capitalizing because no one knows her name.

[566] I would read a long essay of why we call her Hawk to a girl and not Hawk to a woman, because she is 22 years old.

[567] Yes, it's totally fair.

[568] This is something that we're guilty of.

[569] Like more than 1 ,500 words.

[570] 6 ,000 at least.

[571] 6 ,000.

[572] Yes.

[573] The cut, get on this.

[574] All four years.

[575] Hock to a woman is the correct way to say that.

[576] Hot to a lady.

[577] Well done, Roy.

[578] Number five, Josh Allen.

[579] Really?

[580] Turn out that, I wrote it down.

[581] I wrote that down.

[582] Wait, so you've got your own list?

[583] Okay, so you agree with Nick Wright that you have...

[584] I wrote Josh, yeah.

[585] But you have it number three there?

[586] No particular order.

[587] I mean, I just wrote down five names.

[588] Number four.

[589] Jalen Hertz Oh my God Look at He's got it at number five Weird thing to get excited about Number three Tua You didn't have two on your list Nick wrong Number two Brock Purdy Yeah Someone's above Brock Purdy Stugats has Purdy No particular one No particular order Number one Billy Aaron Rogers Oh A curveball Huh.

[590] That is a good one.

[591] I couldn't party that one.

[592] Can I get the sound of Sal Likata also going after the Hocktua woman?

[593] The Yankees have Aaron Judge and one Soto.

[594] Breaking Records.

[595] Ruth Mado Hocktua.

[596] Come on, bro.

[597] I can't take it anymore.

[598] Ridiculous.

[599] And then you wonder why fans get so ticked off and upset.

[600] It's embarrassing.

[601] Is it the biggest deal on the world?

[602] No, absolutely.

[603] Does it mean anything on the field?

[604] No, but that's the problem.

[605] The product on the field isn't good enough, and you're coming up with these silly gimmicks that are laughing stock.

[606] It's a joke.

[607] Hock Tua.

[608] I think I just want to talk about this the rest of the show.

[609] Classic Stugats move there of just getting done with a rant.

[610] Hock Tua.

[611] You have to stick the landing.

[612] Just saying the name again.

[613] He's learned from the best.

[614] That's how you stick the landing right there.

[615] That is a great job.

[616] Sit back, take phone calls, get a 20 share.

[617] I mean, I love it.

[618] Good job, I sell.

[619] He really needs to not be that angry about every single thing.

[620] There needs to be a dial gauge on that.

[621] Like, turn it down to nine once in a while, Sal.

[622] Dan, you can't ask for a gas bag of the week sounds every week and then be like, these guys are too angry.

[623] I don't get gas bag of the week sounds.

[624] That was a submission.

[625] Gas bag.

[626] No, that's, that's, I don't get a gas bag.

[627] Congrats, there were two.

[628] That was great.

[629] Do we now vote for a favorite or how does it?

[630] this word?

[631] We've never had two before.

[632] We have had two before.

[633] We rarely have one, but we have had two before.