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MFM Minisode 52

MFM Minisode 52

My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark XX

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[0] This is exactly right.

[1] Hey, this is exciting.

[2] An all -new season of only murders in the building is coming to Hulu on August 27th.

[3] Steve Martin, Martin Short, and Selena Gomez are back as your favorite podcaster, detectives.

[4] But there's a mystery hanging over everyone.

[5] Who killed Saz?

[6] And were they really after Charles?

[7] Why would someone want to kill Charles?

[8] This season, murder hits close to home.

[9] With a threat against one of their own, the stakes are higher than ever.

[10] Plus, the gang is going to Hollywood to turn their podcast into a major movie.

[11] Amid the glitz and glamour of Los Angeles, more mysteries and twists arise.

[12] Who knows what will happen once the cameras start to roll?

[13] Get ready for the stariest season yet with Merrill Streep, Zach Alfinacus, Eugene Levy, Eva Longoria, Melissa McCarthy, DeVine, Joy Randolph, Molly Shannon, and more.

[14] Only murders in the building, premieres August 27th, streaming only on Hulu.

[15] Goodbye.

[16] Hi.

[17] Hello, and welcome.

[18] To my favorite murder.

[19] hometown minisode edition 2018 right where we read you back your stories from your hometowns or whatever something like that at this point it's just all over the place it's branched off into so many like the like the branches of a mighty oak it's gone in every direction you can send us you could send us a hometown about how you stick your razor blades into an old fashioned mirror thing in your bathroom, and they go into a wall.

[20] And we might read it.

[21] Because we're interested in that.

[22] Yeah.

[23] As well as hidden rooms.

[24] And as well as your cousin's best friend who was murdered.

[25] We want to know about the fucked up shit in your life.

[26] Right.

[27] To a degree.

[28] Are you ready for this one?

[29] I'm ready.

[30] Because the subject line is, you're right.

[31] If you walk your dog in the woods, you'll come across a dead body.

[32] No. Hello, ladies, parentheses, and Stephen.

[33] First of all, I have to say that I'm a huge fan of both of you.

[34] I knew it would happen to me the instant I moved to a small town and got a big dog.

[35] She gets a right into it.

[36] Or he.

[37] Hell, it's the beginning of every Law and Order episode ever.

[38] That's right.

[39] My husband and I started taking my 120 -pound dog.

[40] That's more than I weigh.

[41] Just kidding.

[42] That's not true.

[43] Why, that's more than I weigh.

[44] Yes.

[45] The dog's name is Groucho Barks, by the way.

[46] Amazing.

[47] Come on.

[48] Love it.

[49] That's made for Georgia.

[50] Yes.

[51] On lovely walks in the woods.

[52] The day it happened, it was a beautiful snowy New Year's Day.

[53] We decided to take the pup on a walk, pup on a walk up a back wooded trail.

[54] You lost Karen.

[55] What?

[56] You lost Karen already.

[57] That is, unless it's in New Finland, I wonder if it is.

[58] that leads to a local park.

[59] I'm just saying it's not a puppy.

[60] It's clearly a humongous.

[61] Right.

[62] Kind of dog is it?

[63] I need to know.

[64] Okay.

[65] This wooded trail runs parallel to the Missouri River and is beautiful and scenic.

[66] And right next to a scary ass shack that we dubbed the murder shack.

[67] How come everyone else gets shacks and we don't get them here in California?

[68] I think that the second there's a shack, someone throws in some linoleum and they're like, hey, rents $1 ,000, $1 ,800.

[69] $115.

[70] Get three roommates, move into this shack.

[71] Okay, we start off the walk as always, and after a fashion, we let the dog off a leash to stretch his dog legs.

[72] Wouldn't you know, old boy instantly leaves the path and runs on over to the murder shack.

[73] Being a couple of fools, we decided to follow him and embark on our own little Scooby -Doo adventure -style adventure.

[74] I round the corner to find my dog rooting around the remnants of a campfire.

[75] Instantly, the idea hits me that we might actually come upon a hungover, a homeless person who would be pretty pissed of us tramping through his stuff.

[76] I grab the dog leash, get him back up and the hell out of there when I see it.

[77] No. About six feet from me was a body of a man face down in the freshly fallen snow, arms by his side, feet twisted around some roots.

[78] I calmly asked my husband, who was looking into the window of the shack behind me if he has his phone on him, And could he please call the cops because that's a fucking body?

[79] Oh, my.

[80] It should be noted that at some point in my panic, I actually called out to the body in a shaky voice, Hello, sir, hello.

[81] I'm not exactly sure what I had meant to accomplish.

[82] I guess in my mind, I really wanted to make sure he was dead and not just sleeping in the snow.

[83] I don't know.

[84] I'd never come across a dead body before and wasn't exactly sure what to do.

[85] I figured I'd try the polite route.

[86] he didn't answer we make our way back down the trail i called the non -emergency police line a sweet lady answered the phone and made me repeat myself a few times a body yes ma 'am a body did you say a body before she asked me my information we only had to wait a few minutes before he slightly out of shape cop showed up and was visibly annoyed at having to walk through the woods in the snow he sighed loudly as he asked well how far is it after the affair he took down our information on i shit knew you not the back of a media com envelope ah small towns that must be like direct tv yeah um we never actually heard what happened to him because it was never in the local paper about a month later a dude in a bar with a police scanner had heard the whole ordeal i love it grassroots um apparently the poor man man was a known drug user was in and out of rehab in and out of jail and oh that's it they have since plowed down the murder shack stay sexy don't get murdered keep your dog on a leash and if you walk the dog in the woods you will find a body thanks for the fantastic podcast jamie oh my god that's so scary that's i mean even even if he tripped and fell and died in the snow it's horrifying yeah it's horrifying like the thing of like for people like us and we're like I'm gonna go in the woods I bet I'll find a body and then it actually happens totally different story has to be so jarring and like surreal and and frightening yeah I feel like very quickly after I realized that's what was happening I would be convinced that the killer was behind me that's why I was like non -emergency line I'd be like fuck and like running massive emergency line he's there.

[87] Yeah.

[88] I know.

[89] Holy shit.

[90] I know.

[91] Okay.

[92] Well, this one, I just want to read this really quick.

[93] You gotta hear this.

[94] Okay.

[95] Okay.

[96] So this is from a woman who wrote to us, she's saying of course not, she's leaving out any identifying details, redacting names in specific locations, and making certain she's not saying anything that isn't at least partially available as a public record regarding the decedent.

[97] This is a great start.

[98] Uh -huh.

[99] Okay.

[100] And and her background is a Chicago slash Chicago Land homicide investigator.

[101] Oh, hell yes.

[102] You ready for this?

[103] I am.

[104] Ladies, here we go.

[105] Seven years ago in the Chicagoland area, an adult female was found deceased underneath a fire escape in a private alley several miles from her home, covered loosely by a tarp anchored down at the corners with unspecified weighted objects.

[106] The deceased had no clothing from the waist down, no identification of personal effects on her person or on the scene, showed evidence of recent sexual assault compounded with evidence of chronic sexual abuse and multiple gunshot wounds to the head, torso, hands, and feet.

[107] Jesus Christ.

[108] The reporting party denied any disruption of the scene advising he, she had become aware of the deceased from approximately 15 feet away as wind lifted the edge of the tarp and then called 911.

[109] Fingerprints and DNA samples were volunteered and obtained from the, da -da -da -da -da, okay.

[110] So that person's in the clear?

[111] Yeah.

[112] So then she goes on to say, now to be less clinical, the woman I described was this bomb -ass chick and a close friend of mine for many years prior to the murder.

[113] Oh.

[114] She was soft -spoken and straight -edge, which is probably how she ended up involved with a man who had no qualms about taking advantage of her at every goddamn pass.

[115] He would rack up her credit cards, totaled her car twice, and the like.

[116] Worst of all, though, with a disclaimer that this isn't proven, I'm certain that he beat and abused her.

[117] She would never admit it was true, but all the warning signs were there, especially to someone trying to see them.

[118] When I got the news that she had been found murdered, I hadn't seen her in almost six months, and everything in me knew he had finally done it.

[119] Fast forward a few years, I had transferred to the homicide unit in the city where she had both lived and died.

[120] I was young and female with something to prove, which usually meant crazy late nights slamming red bulls at my desk.

[121] When my caseload was light, I'd sometimes take a little time to sift through old open files with fresh eyes.

[122] I could only resist pulling her jacket for so long.

[123] So one night I pulled it out and immediately found myself pouring over every detail, reading and rereading each statement and letting every hideous photo sear itself into my memory, confident that I could break through the pain and the horror.

[124] I might just be able to see something that would make the difference.

[125] By all accounts, it was a bang -up, it was bang -up police works with no stone left unturned that I could see.

[126] The investigators clearly honed in quickly on the boyfriend, but no physical evidence was uncovered that tied him.

[127] to it.

[128] Fast forward again now and working in my office late into the evening.

[129] Your shows are playing to fill the silence and I'm re -listening to episode number 58 specifically.

[130] Given my line of work, I have a fair share of ghosts that have taken up resonance in my head and sometimes my mind drifts back to my old cases when I'm not expecting it.

[131] It started while listening to Karen's Erickson twin story, bringing up the memory of two women I used to run on, I used to run on all the time as a street paramedic who undoubtedly had some some of that folly adieu weirdness going on and my memory gates accidentally clicked open at the end of that straight up banana stories there's a long exchange between you ladies that i'm calling phase two of this process this is cool yeah we're in it okay long as short of it georgia asks where is she now i'm scared and karen references how the detectives theories didn't line up then offers up that she thinks she should have done more recent more back end research but that she got cut up and the most fascinating parts because the mind just can't comprehend the craziness of the whole story.

[132] That resonated with me and started me down the line of thinking about this murder again.

[133] I've kept tabs on the boyfriend for years, but still no new answers.

[134] Have they gotten so caught up in this case that I'm missing the details?

[135] I need to nail this bitch to the wall.

[136] It's all too convoluted at this point.

[137] Okay.

[138] The episode continues to Georgia's story about Mel Ingotta, Ignatu, who sounds like a human garbage with such vicious, malignant narcissism he never thought anyone be smart.

[139] enough to figure him out.

[140] The similarities to her boyfriend were uncanny.

[141] This ignited my dormant white -hot rage that the case was never settled and I'd bargained with myself that I could take a few minutes to settle the fuck down.

[142] Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[143] So, okay, basically, she says she included that Mel goes, so this is the guy who killed his ex -girlfriend, but they couldn't, but, okay, she includes that Mel goes on to sell the house after he was acquitted, hires a carpet layer to replace the flooring only to find a floor vent with a plastic bag filled with jewelry and undeveloped film tape inside in the fucking ventilation system.

[144] So that was when he got acquitted of killing his girlfriend after that happened.

[145] They found her jewelry and photos of her being murdered inside the house in the ventilation system.

[146] Oh, right, right, right.

[147] Remember that one?

[148] Yes.

[149] It was like the next owner did?

[150] Yeah.

[151] Yeah, yeah.

[152] Okay.

[153] I had read the search reports from her house and his house probably 500 times and they were incredibly thorough, floors were torn up, thermal imaging cameras inside the walls and ceiling, search hounds even cracked sections of the driveway were evacuated to ensure that there weren't disturbed and resealed, squeaky clean.

[154] The furnace and water heaters were searched, but I didn't remember reading that the ducks were searched throughout the house.

[155] I was absolutely bristling.

[156] The boyfriend lived there until he was incarcerated for credit card fraud and identity theft, and the bank foreclosed on his house.

[157] They, the new people gave consent to search the house, acknowledging that they planned a demolition of the structure, got approval from the powers at B, scheduled technicians to be there the next morning, and made copies of the schematics.

[158] At 7 .30 a .m., the team arrived at the house and started recamassing the house.

[159] This is the house of the ex -boyfriend, right?

[160] Yeah.

[161] With radio silence for hours on end, I was deflated and started to feel embarrassed that I had wasted everyone's time on a hunch after the first two hours, which only got worse.

[162] I reached the point of mentally drafting my apology letters and resignation when they called for the field supervisor after 5 .5 hours.

[163] Sure enough, they found a metal box attached to the ventilation system at an unspecified location in the house.

[164] It was photographed, processed, and when examined, had contents that had never been recovered that directly tied the suspect to the homicide.

[165] The investigation was revitalized, and I can't say any further how this is playing out and going to continue to unfold within the legal system, but I can't offer my personal opinion.

[166] That's a big fucking win.

[167] Thank you so much.

[168] ladies, this one goes out to you guys.

[169] Karen, your storytelling is essentially verbal portraiture and your insightful, relatable commentary on the mind's inability to see the forest through the trees when it's overwhelmed, offered a newfound clarity that laid the rock -solid foundation this case needed for its closure.

[170] What?

[171] Closure.

[172] Georgia, your research on the specific details you chose to include, coupled with your capacity to pull a person connection, engineer narrative of the lives of strangers, bridge the gap between these two unrelated cases.

[173] As a professional, I'm so appreciative for your help.

[174] As a person and as her grieving friend, I'm forever grateful from the bottom of my heart that she can rest now.

[175] Yours in cold case justice, A .B. Holy shit.

[176] Are you fucking kidding?

[177] And this was written a little while ago, so I want to follow up and be like, did you hear anything?

[178] Wow.

[179] What a fucking amazing thing.

[180] hear.

[181] Isn't that crazy?

[182] And then, oh my God.

[183] It's incredible.

[184] What a great story.

[185] I know.

[186] There was something there.

[187] I know.

[188] And there was all this shit that I was like, I can take that out.

[189] But then I like had to somehow.

[190] That was amazing.

[191] No, I wanted to hear every detail of that story.

[192] Okay.

[193] Oh my God.

[194] That's so great.

[195] Yeah.

[196] That was.

[197] Yeah.

[198] I mean, oh my God.

[199] A .B. Thank you so much for writing that.

[200] If you could give us a follow up, only if it's good news.

[201] Yeah.

[202] When you're legally allowed to.

[203] Right.

[204] But still, God, God, that's so satisfying.

[205] I know, right?

[206] So essentially what she's saying is me not entirely researching the story of the Erickson twins where Adrian, my friend, was like, yeah, did you see that interview that they did when I was like, wait, what?

[207] And she was like, oh, I immediately looked up.

[208] Oh, my God.

[209] There's videos of them, or at least one of them, I think, on YouTube.

[210] She was telling me about it.

[211] Plenty, plenty.

[212] I like to leave the door open so that you can then get involved in research in my story.

[213] It's a choose your own adventure.

[214] Exactly right.

[215] Karen, you know I'm all about vintage shopping.

[216] Absolutely.

[217] And when you say vintage, you mean when you physically drive to a store and actually purchase something with cash?

[218] Exactly.

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[221] That's right.

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[236] Goodbye.

[237] Hey, this is exciting.

[238] An all -new season of only murders in the building is coming to Hulu on August 27th.

[239] Steve Martin, Martin Short, and Selena Gomez are back as your favorite podcaster detectives.

[240] But there's a mystery hanging over everyone, who killed Saz, and where they're really after Charles?

[241] Why would someone want to kill Charles?

[242] This season murder hits close to home.

[243] With a threat against one of their own, the stakes are higher than ever.

[244] Plus, the gang is going to Hollywood to turn their podcast into a major movie.

[245] Amid the glitz and glamour of Los Angeles, more mysteries and twists arise.

[246] Who knows what'll happen once the cameras start to roll?

[247] Get ready for the stariest season yet with Merrill Streep, Zach Alfenakis, Eugene Levy, Eva Longoria, Melissa McCarthy, Davey, Joy, Randolph, Molly Shannon, and more.

[248] Only murders in the building, premieres August 27th, streaming only on Hulu.

[249] Goodbye.

[250] This is unsolved murder in my hometown.

[251] Hi, Karen and Georgia.

[252] I live in a large town in North Carolina called Kernersville.

[253] There haven't been any murders here, and this is the only unsolved one.

[254] Okay.

[255] So there have been some.

[256] So the murder of Kathy, Goff Kennedy, happened in October of 1994.

[257] Kathy, her husband, and her two kids had been living in this apartment for only three weeks.

[258] Her husband went on a fishing trip the night of and Kathy was left home alone with her daughters, 11 -month -old and 3 -year -old for the night.

[259] Someone knocked on the door and strangled and stabbed Kathy with a knife from her own apartment.

[260] Thankfully, the kids were unharmed and still in the apartment.

[261] Her grandmother found Kathy the next morning.

[262] Oh, that's so terrible.

[263] The murder still hasn't been found.

[264] A $22 ,000 reward has been offered for information leading to the arrest of Kathy Gough Kennedy's murder.

[265] The creepy thing about this case is that 22 years after her death on New Year's Eve, their house burned down.

[266] The only thing that was untouched by the fire was a picture of Kathy in her wedding dress.

[267] Thanks so much for an amazing podcast.

[268] I listen to it almost every day.

[269] I have made my dad listen to it also.

[270] He always comments on how much you guys say fuck.

[271] Every parent hates us for that reason.

[272] parentheses don't worry he loves listening love Kim oh my god it's so creepy did the husband do it I mean when I ever hear of a thing like that where it's like they moved in three weeks ago I'm like oh like the person came back for what they thought still lived there oh you know what I mean yeah and also then if it's 22 years later and it's an apartment and it burns down what was the husband still living He couldn't have lived in the apartment where his wife was brutally murdered.

[273] Well, he must have.

[274] Unless her picture just happens to fucking be there.

[275] Or somebody lit it on fire and then threw that picture on the top of it because it was unburned.

[276] No. Untouched by the fire.

[277] That's what said.

[278] Yeah, but I think he lived there then.

[279] But how got...

[280] Really?

[281] I would never.

[282] Yeah, that makes me think it's mistaken identity when it's like that close to when they moved in.

[283] You know what I mean?

[284] Yeah.

[285] But then again, they knew that the husband.

[286] wasn't there.

[287] It's just, yeah, because they just moved in.

[288] It's so horrible.

[289] Yeah.

[290] We'll send your stories, you guys.

[291] Yeah, we love to hear your hometowns.

[292] My favorite murder, Gmail.

[293] Please let us know if we help you solve a major, a homicide in a large American city.

[294] We want full credit for that.

[295] We would love, anytime you want to give us credit for you doing your job great, we would love to have it.

[296] Yeah, anytime you want to give us credit for some fucking.

[297] And last minute research we did.

[298] Yeah.

[299] Compared to, like, some people really dig in and read books and stuff.

[300] No, we don't do that.

[301] As I like to say it, we're not trying to be 48 hours.

[302] We just want to retell you a 48 hours we saw that we liked.

[303] Exactly.

[304] That's really, oh, speaking of which, just really quick, I was, there was a nice survived marathon that I started watching, even though I've seen every single one of them.

[305] And I know every single one of them.

[306] And here comes our friend, Jennifer Maury.

[307] Yes.

[308] telling hers and I don't it's so stupid how proud I am to have met her yeah did you start crying a little bit because she tells that story so good like that's part of why it's so compelling is there's some people where you're like you shouldn't have been on this show yeah it's too it's too new for you or too close but she just tells it so like amazingly yeah so good um anyway send us your stories.

[309] My favorite murder at Gmail.

[310] We love it.

[311] Thank you guys for listening.

[312] Stay sexy.

[313] And don't get murdered.

[314] Elvis.

[315] One cookie?

[316] Good boy.

[317] That's a yes.

[318] Good boy.