My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark XX
[0] This is exactly right.
[1] Hey, this is exciting.
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[4] But there's a mystery hanging over everyone.
[5] Who killed Saz?
[6] And were they really after Charles?
[7] Why would someone want to kill Charles?
[8] This season, murder hits close to home.
[9] With a threat against one of their own, the stakes are higher than ever.
[10] Plus, the gang is going to Hollywood to turn their podcast into a major movie.
[11] Amid the glitz and glamour of Los Angeles, more mysteries and twists arise.
[12] Who knows what will happen once the cameras start to roll?
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[14] Only Martyrs in the building, premieres August 27th, streaming only on Hulu.
[15] Goodbye.
[16] What's up, Orlando?
[17] Vince is so fired.
[18] He left his sunglasses up here.
[19] I honestly thought you like secretly brought them on stage.
[20] Like here's my hilarious joke.
[21] This is for Orlando.
[22] then straight up left his sunclosed.
[23] You're fired?
[24] Smaller meeting after this show.
[25] Fired, divorce, everything.
[26] I have to just tell you guys right now, the second wave of screaming.
[27] That hit a new high.
[28] I don't think we've heard that before.
[29] Fucking rock and roll at the heart Rock Cafe, everybody.
[30] They're screaming outside because there's a roller coaster, but it's really weird if you, like, don't think about that.
[31] There's just screaming outside.
[32] I'm going to admit something to you.
[33] Go ahead.
[34] We got out of the car to go into the back, you know, artist entrance.
[35] And I heard some distant screaming, and I was like, guys, guys, we'll see you in a second.
[36] And then it was like, oh, roller coaster goes, like that.
[37] Like that, I was just like, oh no, I've lost my mind.
[38] Already getting too big.
[39] I'm such an A already.
[40] You guys got us screaming, which is cool because Tampa got us an active serial killer.
[41] Yes, that was nice.
[42] You made up for it.
[43] What a gift.
[44] I mean.
[45] What an amazing on -brand gift for us.
[46] We were honored.
[47] Karen made a good point.
[48] Vince was like, if you guys, if you solve this and find the guy, you're going to be huge.
[49] Yes.
[50] Imagine.
[51] And then Karen was like, well, we haven't seen Stephen and the active serial killer in the same room at the same time.
[52] Let's just set him up for it and get the glory.
[53] I believe he's an active serial killer fucking mustacheing around.
[54] He's not here so we can say anything we want about him.
[55] Yes, say anything you want.
[56] He's just with my cats, so don't be too harsh.
[57] They wanted him to be under here so bad.
[58] Sorry.
[59] Sorry.
[60] Guys, welcome.
[61] This is my favorite runner.
[62] We're a podcast.
[63] Thank you.
[64] That's Karen Kilgaris.
[65] That's Georgia Hard Star.
[66] Thank you.
[67] Thank you.
[68] Remember what we did this afternoon?
[69] Oh, dude.
[70] So we had a drive here from Tampa and we had like a couple hours between when your hotel room, it kicks you out.
[71] and then let's see when to the next one.
[72] So we're like, what the fuck do we do?
[73] A, Waffle House.
[74] Waffle House, all the way of the place.
[75] It was my first time.
[76] Yeah.
[77] It was unbelievably regular.
[78] Yeah, which is good, because most of them are like, don't go there.
[79] Don't go there.
[80] You're going to regret it.
[81] I don't regret it.
[82] Here's the thing.
[83] Those biscuits, I had a biscuit without gravy on it, and I was like, is this fried?
[84] Because it was really thin, and it was filled with butter, or Crisco, or some butter -flavored Crisco.
[85] But it was really good.
[86] So then we ate.
[87] And then we went to, there's this town called Plant?
[88] Plant City.
[89] Plant City.
[90] Yeah.
[91] You love Plant City.
[92] So do we.
[93] We do, too.
[94] It was nuts.
[95] So we went to all these, like my dream, just a town full of antique malls.
[96] you know so much vintage temperware Georgia kept picking up bowls and going should I get this it's like yes it's perfect for flying a nice big bowl from 1964 but it has the classic pattern that I'll never find it in Los Angeles and then Karen had the great idea while we were wandering around she was like let's get a weird creepy present for whoever does the hometown murder tonight So then...
[97] It didn't happen.
[98] So then...
[99] Yeah, let it go.
[100] Let it go.
[101] Don't get connected to material things in this life that you have.
[102] But Georgia is immediately like, let's get a haunted picture.
[103] You know what I mean?
[104] Like something haunted.
[105] Let's get something awful.
[106] You'll be like, there you go.
[107] Now you have to keep it.
[108] Sorry.
[109] So we were like searching for a thing.
[110] And what about this?
[111] And just kept holding up weird shit.
[112] I found salt and pepper shaker.
[113] of two little children.
[114] On the back, because I couldn't figure out what it was.
[115] It was like they had big blue eyes, but then green heads, and they were holding their knees like this.
[116] And on the back it just said, melon children.
[117] Yeah, there was a lot of, like, the quaint, creepy racism that they had back then.
[118] They're just like, here's this funny thing.
[119] And now you're like, you can't do that anymore.
[120] You should take this out of the store, please.
[121] Yeah.
[122] And, like, I don't want a swastika memorabilia case.
[123] We passed this thing, and Georgia goes, first swastika like at the top of her lungs oh so good so good it's like a scavenger hug yeah on it so we found Karen found this gorgeous jewelry box okay so if you are from the 70s like myself um they had those jewelry boxes that like you open them up and then the ballerina flicks up on a spring and then it's like Talk about fucking haunted.
[124] It's like the scariest thing as a child where you're like, this is absolutely a murder soundtrack.
[125] It's like a ghost is absolutely making this happen.
[126] Yeah, for sure.
[127] Put on your rings, little girl.
[128] And forever!
[129] And then it was there like a movie where like if you're bad, you get trapped forever as the fucking ballerina?
[130] There is now.
[131] And then she gets close in the thing every night.
[132] Keep going.
[133] Tick, tick.
[134] Someone take dictation.
[135] That's amazing.
[136] It was this like gorgeous version.
[137] of it perfect condition ballerina everything was like gorgeous about it it was it was like it was way bigger than a normal one and you opened it and then things went out like that and then there was a bottom drawer everything was happening it was like from the 50s probably cream on the outside salmon panes salmon on the inside um like velvet untouched it looked like some old lady bought it for someone and was like fuck them and put it up in this closet and never gave it to anybody and then died.
[138] Right?
[139] Yeah, so it's just filled with hate.
[140] Which attracted me immediately.
[141] And I picked, and also it was way back, it was on the bottom shelf, way back.
[142] This is my fucking favorite experience in one of those kind of stores where I'm like, but what's this?
[143] So I open it to Georgia and then she's, we have to get it, and we're looking at it.
[144] And on the back in Boston gold, it said, Lady Buxton.
[145] It's from a company called Lady Buxton.
[146] Lady Buxton.
[147] Which we're naming our company.
[148] We're stealing that.
[149] We're changing the name of our company.
[150] There's no way that company's still in business.
[151] Or are they?
[152] Someone started crying in the front row just now.
[153] Sorry.
[154] No, I saw what happened.
[155] There was like probably left over from like, who played here last night, let's guess.
[156] Just Jay Giles Band?
[157] Yeah, Jay Giles Band.
[158] A piece of glitter.
[159] One piece left fell from the sky.
[160] Oh, then Katie Perry, right?
[161] Her lap.
[162] How big is it?
[163] Holy shit.
[164] Can I have that?
[165] Thank you.
[166] I feel like if we had that...
[167] Oh, that's not glitter, baby.
[168] That's a razor blade.
[169] If we had that jewelry box, she would get it.
[170] Oh.
[171] Oh, one for me?
[172] Ma 'am, please don't come toward the stage unless you're called up.
[173] Can you believe that shit?
[174] You did it exactly right.
[175] She's rushing the stage like a lunatic.
[176] I can't believe you.
[177] Karen.
[178] Oh, yes.
[179] you lick it?
[180] I thought about it, but I can't imagine what it's made of.
[181] Yes.
[182] Now we just get beamed the fuck up in his face to be with Heaven's Gate.
[183] We don't have to record this episode.
[184] It's going to go straight into Stephen's brain.
[185] This looks good.
[186] This is not to be a TV insider, but when I worked on Ellen, you do one giveaway where it's like, we're going to send this soldier and his wife on a cruise, and then they have confetti cannons that explode in the audience and out onto the stage and this for the next like 17 shows every once in a while this happens and I swear to God one time they got Oprah to come on that show which was a very big get because they both shows still existed on regular TV and at the very end Oprah was just like taking this huge Christ -like bow like you're welcome from my presence everyone and this piece of Confetti just went like this and landed on her head.
[187] Ellen was like, no. Or she was like, yeah.
[188] So awesome.
[189] Anyways.
[190] Anyhow.
[191] Lady Buckster.
[192] Refocus.
[193] Standing in line.
[194] It was really cheap.
[195] We're standing there like, we got our thing for the person.
[196] We have the best ideas.
[197] And then this woman comes up behind us, this real sweet, like, you know, really normal person.
[198] Like, so not from L .A. like a really nice normal woman she's like oh is that a lady bucks like what did she say she said oh I see I have that one back there that's it's very similar it's from my daughter and I have two other daughters I'm trying to get where did you find it and I was like it was on the bottom shelf I was doing a full body block of like bottom shelf don't worry about where I fucking found it lady she was like I still have mine from when I was in second grade I'm not fucking kidding she still has her and I'm trying to get a couple from and I found one over there.
[199] Did you see any others?
[200] Yeah.
[201] She was very...
[202] So Georgia looks at me and goes, let's give it to her.
[203] And I was like, what the fuck?
[204] She ignored me. She just ignored.
[205] Vince was like, yeah.
[206] And I was like this.
[207] Anyway, could you guys finish up so we can get the lady boxed in?
[208] Georgia turns around and goes, you should have it.
[209] And the woman goes, oh no, no, no. Like she's giving her the fucking holy grail.
[210] Oh, no. And you just put it into her hands.
[211] Because you gave me a nod.
[212] I did, I did, I did.
[213] I don't want to seem like, I'm fucking amazing, but it was my idea.
[214] I broke.
[215] I did break at the end.
[216] And she goes, oh, no. We just immediately started walking away.
[217] She started crying.
[218] Wipes her eyes, and then we were all like, we're the best people in the fucking world.
[219] It was the best.
[220] So no one gets a surprise tonight, except for that lady.
[221] That lady gets surprised.
[222] Because we are good people.
[223] And then we were running scenarios of how she, She's a con woman, and that thing is worth like $700 on eBay, and she does that to everybody where she's like, they got the fucking Buxton.
[224] Let's see.
[225] I have daughters.
[226] That's it.
[227] I have daughters.
[228] And the woman who works, I was like, Judy, we told you you can't bother the other customers anymore.
[229] Judy's a pirate.
[230] Judy.
[231] Judy.
[232] Judy, you nut.
[233] I just want to mention someone was good enough.
[234] Edward, you made us cookies tonight.
[235] Thank you, Edward.
[236] They were delicious.
[237] Uh -huh.
[238] We got some cookies sent backstage.
[239] Yeah, you could have done it, too.
[240] But this is my favorite thing.
[241] He wrote a really nice card, and then he wrote, P .S., I almost got fired for writing, Stay Sexy, Don't Get Murdered, on our positivity board at work.
[242] Maybe they need to be more specific about what being positive means, because it's not the same thing for everyone.
[243] No, we're all different special snowflakes in this world, and everyone has a positivity angle.
[244] Yeah.
[245] Yeah.
[246] It's positive to not get murdered?
[247] I'm positive.
[248] I did not want to get murdered.
[249] murder.
[250] Yes, for sure.
[251] And then, like, now I'm obsessed with fine.
[252] Edward, where do you work?
[253] He works at the police station.
[254] Let him say...
[255] Oh, what?
[256] Where is it?
[257] Diagon Alliot Universal.
[258] Oh, my God.
[259] You are so lucky they didn't fucking put a bag over your head and pull you out and, like, dump you out over the county line.
[260] Oh, my God.
[261] They're gonna now.
[262] You're like...
[263] He tried to SSDGM Harry Potter.
[264] Everyone knows.
[265] Oh, I wrote down the word head wound right here.
[266] Oh, Jesus.
[267] Talk about a head wound.
[268] Talking about a...
[269] Talking about walking into our hotel lobby to fucking check in after our little drive.
[270] And the fucking kid has a straight up head wound in the lobby.
[271] He's fine, he's fine, he's fine, he's fine.
[272] Yeah, he was talking and walking and everything's okay.
[273] But bleeding.
[274] Fully bleeding down his face.
[275] We were just like walked past him and his mom screaming.
[276] at the father.
[277] I've never heard, I didn't know this was a real thing that people actually said to each other.
[278] She yelled to the dad who was just hanging out at the fucking front desk watching the mom freak out.
[279] Don't just stand there, do something!
[280] She actually said those words out loud.
[281] And the dad was like, they're getting ice.
[282] It was just like the most unhappy family.
[283] Perfect for vacation here in Orlando.
[284] They're fine.
[285] We were following them to get into the elevator and Karen goes, let's not get on the elevator with the rage family.
[286] And I was so bummed because I really wanted to get on the elevator with the rage family.
[287] Just hear what they have to say to each other.
[288] I am such a, like, denial -based Irish Catholic, where, like, you and your family could be strangling each other in front of me, and I'd be like, anyway, so what are your Thanksgiving plans?
[289] None of my business.
[290] The wall?
[291] You're interviewing the wall.
[292] I'm asking the wall, yeah.
[293] And then when they were getting on the elevator, we heard them say, well, this has been a disaster.
[294] That was the mother.
[295] Totally.
[296] It's been a disaster.
[297] Now let's go to Dygon Alley for Christ's sake.
[298] Well, they're all positive there.
[299] But everyone's positive.
[300] We'll get some positivity over there.
[301] Fucking lives.
[302] Finally.
[303] Oh, shit, guys.
[304] Also, when we got up, when I got upstairs, I immediately went back downstairs by a Diet Coke and right as I press the button for the elevator, this lady comes out of the stairwell.
[305] and she was kind of rad she had a huge eagle tattoo on her bicep where I was like who are you and she looks at me waiting for the other and she goes I wouldn't get in there we just got stuck I swear to God I'm like we have been here 15 fucking minutes and everything has happened yeah trouble follows us yes it does all the way to Orlando yay Hey.
[306] Get it, girl.
[307] Thank you.
[308] Oh, that's nice.
[309] Thank you.
[310] So much.
[311] That's what we do.
[312] Oh, should I make my excuse about my outfit?
[313] I really did want to...
[314] I have a new black dress that I wanted to wear.
[315] I guess subconsciously I didn't want to wear it.
[316] Because I forgot my tights in my car at the airport.
[317] I don't know how I did it.
[318] I didn't want to wear that.
[319] I didn't want to wear that dress.
[320] I guess I didn't.
[321] That's not true.
[322] You love it.
[323] I offered you my tights last night.
[324] I was like, I didn't shave my legs, but you can have them.
[325] I'll take them off for you.
[326] You've done it for me. Taking it for the team.
[327] I was just like, nah, nah, I'll just wear my pajamas.
[328] And I remembered I had diamond hoop earrings, and I was like, they'll do all the work.
[329] They draw the eye away.
[330] And your nails?
[331] All right.
[332] Listen, we work hard for you guys.
[333] Listen, look, it's so hard doing a live podcast.
[334] It's really...
[335] Traveling.
[336] That's not true.
[337] It's not true.
[338] Relying to your friends.
[339] This is so easy and lucky.
[340] Listen, I can't believe.
[341] I just want to know what he's thinking right now.
[342] This is my husband.
[343] He's the guy, he's our tour manager.
[344] He sets everything up.
[345] He gets shit done and taken care of, and we know it.
[346] And he does stuff so perfectly, we would be a fucking mess without him.
[347] And I just love that he left his sunglasses on the table.
[348] He made us this rug.
[349] He made us this rug.
[350] He works really hard.
[351] Yeah, he really does.
[352] He does.
[353] I think he got used at his dispensary, too.
[354] by the way.
[355] Anyway.
[356] Do you have those here?
[357] You don't get to sell pot.
[358] You do?
[359] There's yes as a no. Someone knows something that you guys don't know.
[360] They're not telling you.
[361] Some people are like, wait, you do?
[362] They have one.
[363] They have just the one dispensary?
[364] Just the one.
[365] Well, you guys got to get there and get some sunglasses.
[366] Come out to California.
[367] Those sunglasses are made of pot.
[368] Don't tell the TSA.
[369] I couldn't remember that for a second.
[370] Also, speaking of pot, you guys have a horse here that got a DUI or something.
[371] Am I getting that wrong?
[372] I actually looked a story up so I could see the lady.
[373] It's the best mugshot.
[374] If you look it up, it was in Lakeland, and she rode her horse.
[375] You know it.
[376] We're going to tell you your news seven days later.
[377] It's fun.
[378] She's writing down people call the cops because she's obviously drunk on a horse.
[379] Well, she's not staring the horse.
[380] The horse isn't going to be like, no, I'm not going to fucking walk off the road.
[381] The horse is just like, lady, it's your call.
[382] I'm going where you tell me to go.
[383] She's like, she was double over the limit.
[384] So it was a 0 .161.
[385] That's nothing.
[386] I could do that in fucking two hours.
[387] If you care, if you care, you can do it.
[388] That's the wrong message.
[389] But you've got to see her headshot.
[390] Headshot.
[391] I mean mugshot.
[392] We were even in L .A. for too long.
[393] She is my favorite actress.
[394] It was Blythe Danner.
[395] Isn't that crazy?
[396] No. What does she look like?
[397] It's one of those things, and you guys are familiar with this, where the hair is young and the face is old.
[398] Oh, that is the saddest description.
[399] Sarah's young faces.
[400] That's the saddest four words I've ever heard together.
[401] Well, because she had kind of, like, I think, an accidental ombre.
[402] You know what I mean?
[403] So, like, this part of her hair was one color, and then down here was a different one.
[404] Like, right here, her life got hard.
[405] Like, she was doing great six months ago when this part was here, and then some shit went down.
[406] Yeah.
[407] And dying her hair was no longer a priority.
[408] No. I've been there.
[409] I hope to God that woman isn't sitting in this audience with a single tear rolling down her cheek right now.
[410] Well, if she is, I hope her hair looks great.
[411] She deserves it.
[412] She went to the, after that, she was like, look, I'm going to get it together.
[413] I put my horse at risk.
[414] I'm going to the salon.
[415] We're going to get these roots strip bleached and have everything look the same.
[416] The secret to not looking like that is just to always have brown hair because then no one knows how bad your fucking month is going.
[417] Yeah.
[418] You know, it's true.
[419] What were you going to say?
[420] Well, that seemed judgmental.
[421] Sorry, everybody.
[422] Bye.
[423] This is a true crime podcast.
[424] Yes, that's right.
[425] It's a...
[426] Tell you that ahead of time.
[427] True crime with a touch of comedy.
[428] Yeah, but they're not...
[429] You know what I mean?
[430] They're like, we take them apart.
[431] You can put them back together.
[432] We're not doing that.
[433] Some people don't like it.
[434] Yeah.
[435] So...
[436] Say you're one of the...
[437] people tonight.
[438] Keep it to yourself.
[439] We know.
[440] Don't worry.
[441] We know.
[442] We know.
[443] We know.
[444] We know.
[445] We know.
[446] We meet lots of people who are like, she brought me. Yeah.
[447] I never heard you guys before.
[448] You're pretty funny.
[449] That's what happened.
[450] No, everyone's the best.
[451] Um, should we sit down?
[452] Yeah.
[453] Yes, truly the best part.
[454] These are nice seats.
[455] Yeah.
[456] Cushy.
[457] my sweat towels here my um I'm gonna do this like my mom at Thanksgiving yeah my mom at Thanksgiving would get dressed in like a really nice outfit and then go downstairs to cook so then she always had this on her shoulder and she'd be like could you girls make one appetizer please could you girls the most disgusting rag no um then there's this wolf Van Halen used this rag very recently That's the sun.
[458] It's a deep cut.
[459] All right.
[460] Let's put everything.
[461] In order.
[462] The glitter goes here.
[463] That goes there.
[464] I left mine there.
[465] Okay, great.
[466] Here we go.
[467] That's yours.
[468] That's from Edward.
[469] This is my Kleenex.
[470] That is actually a napkin.
[471] All right.
[472] Who?
[473] It's me. It's me. Okay.
[474] Karen goes first.
[475] That's right.
[476] Thank you.
[477] Hey.
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[479] Absolutely.
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[497] Goodbye.
[498] Hey, this is exciting.
[499] An all -new season of only murders in the building is coming to Hulu on August 27th.
[500] Steve Martin, Martin Short, and Selena Gomez are back as your favorite podcaster, detectives.
[501] But there's a mystery hanging over everyone.
[502] Who killed Saz?
[503] And were they really after Charles?
[504] Why would someone want to kill Charles?
[505] This season, murder hits close to home.
[506] With a threat against one of their own, the stakes are higher than ever.
[507] Plus, the gang is going to Hollywood to turn their podcast into a major movie.
[508] Amid the glitz and glamour of Los Angeles, more mysteries and twists arise.
[509] Who knows what will happen once the cameras start to roll?
[510] Get ready for the stariest season yet with Merrill Streep, Zach Alfenakis, Eugene Levy, Eva Longoria, Melissa McCarthy, Devine, Joy Randolph, Molly Shannon, and more.
[511] Only Martyrs in the Building, premieres August 27th, streaming only on Hulu.
[512] Goodbye.
[513] It's hard when we are home from these shows, and people don't cheer us constantly for every single fucking thing we do.
[514] all day long.
[515] I have a hard time.
[516] How do we know if we're doing well or not?
[517] I'm like, I'll look around and be like, excuse me, I just sat down.
[518] Why is...
[519] How do I know if I'm supposed to the town or not?
[520] All right, so my murder tonight and my story I'm about to tell you is about a little lady named Judy Buenoano the Black Widow Killer.
[521] Love a good Black Widow.
[522] Bueno, probably.
[523] still still I said it the way I said it you pick those up and throw them away let's make it look nice I got most of my information you know when you go on YouTube to look up a serial killer you need to know information about and there's somebody that has posted a TV show as if it's their TV show so I think it was a guy it was something like it was some kind of a play on words where it looked like his name was like it was like kicker in the ass or something, but it was broken up, so it looked like a guy's name.
[524] It was great.
[525] Anyway, but he didn't make the show.
[526] I'm pretty sure it's a show called Women on Death Row.
[527] And the little thing up in the corner said, CI, but I've never heard of that channel before.
[528] So I don't know what was happening, but if you go on YouTube, that was where I got most of this information.
[529] Plus, there's a website called Crimemuseum .org.
[530] That's really good, that had a bunch of information about her, too.
[531] Okay.
[532] Okay, so Judy Bueno anio was born Judeus and Luelti on April 4th, 1943, in Quana, Texas.
[533] That's the shortest sentence with all the names I can't pronounce in it.
[534] Get those out of the way.
[535] Yeah, we started off strong.
[536] Okay, so her mother died when she was two.
[537] She and her brother Robert get sent to live with the grandma.
[538] A year later, the father remarries, brings them back.
[539] They now live in New Mexico.
[540] and she then has a whole childhood of abuse by the new stepmother and I guess there were five stepbrothers that were all dicks.
[541] So she has it bad.
[542] And then when she's 14, she snaps, throws hot grease on the stepbrothers and attacks the father and stepbrother.
[543] What the fuck?
[544] She fucking lost it.
[545] Remember the fact that you just cheered for Judy because you're going to regret that later.
[546] Do you think she had a thing like this and she was just like, you're dicks and just threw a thing in it?
[547] She was like, they were like, this bacon isn't crispy enough.
[548] And she's like, oh yeah?
[549] Let me put my towel down really quick.
[550] Okay.
[551] So she is sentenced to 60 days in a detention center and then she decides, well, I'm not going back home.
[552] So she goes to a girls reform school.
[553] She graduates from there.
[554] And then she studies to become nursing assistant.
[555] In 1961, when she's 18, she gives birth to her son Michael out of wedlock.
[556] She never says who the father is.
[557] And then the following year, she marries a guy named James Goodyear.
[558] He's an Air Force officer.
[559] They have two more kids, and then they all move to Orlando.
[560] Hey.
[561] She, in 1968, opened a place called the Conway Acres Child Care Center.
[562] Uh -oh.
[563] You guys went there?
[564] Was it fun?
[565] Did you ever, did everything taste like almonds?
[566] Because there's a poisoning aspect to this story.
[567] So her husband, James Goodyear, is sent to Vietnam.
[568] In 1979, he comes back from Vietnam, and in September of the same year, he starts to get really sick.
[569] He's vomiting.
[570] He's really weak.
[571] He can't get out of bed.
[572] He ends up being hospitalized.
[573] She goes and visits him, and the hospital sits by his bed every day.
[574] He ends up dying.
[575] Yeah So She gets his life insurance money As a widow will Then later on that year Her house catches on fire, burns all the way down She gets a little insurance money for that too Then she begins dating a man named Bobby Joe Morris And in 1977 he moves to Colorado So she packs up all her kids And she moves to Colorado and moves in with him within a year Bobby Joe is in the hospital dying of a mysterious illness that includes vomiting and being very weak you know that mystery it's just a weird mystery this was back when they didn't know what caused anything so when she would go visit him in the hospital she would bring him Hawaiian Punch from home in a container he just loves Hawaiian Punch Tupperware He loves Tupperware.
[576] Vintage Tupperware.
[577] I bet it was corn maze yellow.
[578] Yeah, she's like, to the nurse is like, he just has to have his Hawaiian punch from out of this specific container poured by me only.
[579] Don't drink any.
[580] Yeah.
[581] So in January of 1978, he dies of this illness.
[582] And none of the doctors have no idea what it is when they do the autopsy.
[583] Nothing shows up.
[584] Five days after he dies, she cashes three life insurance checks from all the policies she'd taken out on him a couple of months before he died.
[585] But everyone's like, wow, what a lucky coincidence.
[586] Congratulations, Judy.
[587] So she ends up buying a house in Whisper Bay.
[588] No?
[589] It's near Pensacola.
[590] and are you from Pensacola because you didn't know what Whisper Bay was so I think you might be fucking lying.
[591] Everyone from Whisper Bay is really quiet because Pensacola just won't stop screaming all the time.
[592] So they're like, we're a little, we specifically moved you because we don't like loud thing.
[593] Of course you don't know who's from Whisper Bay.
[594] They're snapping in their seats.
[595] Yes, Whisper Bay.
[596] Now, Judy changes her name legally to Judy Buono Anyo, which is Spanish for Goody, which you might remember, was her dead first husband's last name.
[597] Oh, creepy.
[598] Pretty creepy.
[599] Okay.
[600] So in June of 1979, her son, Michael, drops out of high school.
[601] He's like 17.
[602] He joins the army.
[603] and before he leaves to go to Fort Bennington he stops by her house oh sorry Fort Benning Georgia he stops by her house to visit her to say goodbye and she gives him some sort of some item that he eats or drinks perhaps a delicious cup of Hawaiian punch I'm not sure when he gets to Fort Benning he becomes gravely ill vomiting weakness what not he is found to have high levels of arsenic in his system.
[604] So his limbs begin to atrophy.
[605] This is one of the side effects, and he becomes paralyzed in his legs, and then he can't use his hands.
[606] So he has to wear braces on his legs, and he basically can't use his hands.
[607] So he's discharged from the army, and he moves back in with his mother.
[608] You know, so his mother can take care of him in his illness.
[609] I got a bad feeling about her.
[610] Do you?
[611] Yeah.
[612] Who, Judy?
[613] Judy.
[614] Um, so in May of 1980, the day he comes back from being discharged from the army with his paralysis and his illness, she plans a fishing trip.
[615] Okay.
[616] Same day.
[617] Think it through.
[618] No. If she's not going to, I'm not going to.
[619] Could you imagine you're like, even if it was just like you were a college and you came home because you got the flu and you like walk in the front door and your mom's like, here we go, car trip, let's go.
[620] You'd be like, what the fuck?
[621] She gets a canoe.
[622] They get a folding chair and strap him into the chair in the canoe.
[623] No. And Michael, the younger brother James, and Judy all go on a canoe fishing trip in the East River.
[624] That sounds like a bummer, even if you're at fucking top of your health game.
[625] You're feeling great.
[626] Fuck no. You took tons of vitamins and you're like, I don't want to get that fucking canoe.
[627] Yeah.
[628] We went on, I just remembered, we went on a canoe trip in the Russian River when I was like 10 years old, and it was our family and our next -door neighbor of the hospitals who are like our family.
[629] And my dad, who is six foot forward, probably 280 pounds, and my cousin Cheryl's husband at the time, Mike, who was even bigger than my dad, they were like best friends and are like, we're going to get in our own canoe and bring beer, you know, like our time.
[630] They flipped over in that canoe.
[631] I'm not kidding, like probably 30 times.
[632] Because we were going, it was supposed to be like this lazy canoe trip down the river, just every five minutes.
[633] It was like, gong, and all their shit would go everywhere, and they'd laugh, and they'd stand up and drink a beer, whatever.
[634] That sounds kind of awesome.
[635] It was fucking hilarious.
[636] Well, we finally get to the end of the trip to turn the canoes back in, and they turn the canoe to the side, and it says, like, max weight 300 pounds.
[637] Those idiots.
[638] Just a little family fun sidebar before we go back into the horror show that is this family.
[639] Okay.
[640] So at one point, the canoe tips over.
[641] And some fishermen find James and Judy treading water and, like, trying to hold on to the canoe.
[642] And Judy tells them, my son Michael has braces on his legs and he went down and we can't find him.
[643] Right?
[644] So they find Michael's body a quarter of a mile down the river.
[645] Because he had braced on his arms and legs, so he basically sunk right to the bottom.
[646] So Judy tells the cops, she tells them, one story was the fishing line got caught in trees.
[647] One story was they hit a log, a log bumped them and knocked the canoe over a floating log.
[648] And then one story was, there was a snake in the canoe.
[649] It's like...
[650] Could have been all three at the same time.
[651] I mean, could you imagine?
[652] A snake -filled log hits your fishing line.
[653] All right.
[654] The younger son, James, says he has...
[655] no memory of the incident because he was knocked out when the thing happened and unconscious.
[656] So it turns out Michael having been in the Army has a $20 ,000 life insurance policy purely from just being in the Army.
[657] There wasn't just the Army life insurance policy, there were several other on her son.
[658] So she collects all of that money and she goes and opens a beauty salon called Fingers and Faces.
[659] Are you fucking kidding me?
[660] Yeah.
[661] I'm pretty.
[662] Make me pretty.
[663] Make my fingers and faces pretty, please.
[664] I have ten fingers and four faces.
[665] Can someone help me?
[666] Fingers and faces.
[667] That's the kind of place if I saw it, I would take a picture of it and try to think of a good tweet about it.
[668] Fingers and faces.
[669] Okay.
[670] Like concentrate on one of those things.
[671] Yeah, they're not a nail salon, a facial place, never the twain shall meet.
[672] Like, can you imagine you're there trying to get a facial with like cucumbers on your eyes and then not like nail polish smell wafs in?
[673] It's like, relax.
[674] We're peeling off the top three layers of your facial skin.
[675] Okay.
[676] In the meantime, there's some people out there that are like, I like fingers and faces.
[677] Oh, do you have photos, by the way?
[678] We can show photos.
[679] No. Okay, good.
[680] I mean, not yet.
[681] Oh, okay, great.
[682] Okay.
[683] Sorry.
[684] She starts dating a local business man named John Gentry.
[685] So in October of 1982, I mean, they said she had a really magnetic personality, of course, clearly.
[686] She can get any man and poison any man she wants.
[687] He was a local businessman?
[688] Was it called toes and decolage?
[689] Yes.
[690] Toes and elbow?
[691] Toes and neck?
[692] His business was shaving men's neck beards off in the 70s.
[693] And pedicure and promising your feet.
[694] And just being like, you're going to wear those bergen stocks.
[695] You've got to get rid of that heel shit.
[696] Gross.
[697] So they were a match made in heaven.
[698] None of this is true.
[699] He probably did taxes.
[700] Okay.
[701] So in October of 1982, Judy, as you do when you start dating someone, convinces John that they should take out life insurance policies on each other.
[702] Oh, you know, that next step, that romantic next step.
[703] Yeah.
[704] You date, you fuck.
[705] you take out life insurance policies on each other.
[706] Boom.
[707] I mean, come on.
[708] That's how it is.
[709] Let's get real.
[710] Then she tries to start, she gives him special vitamins that she said are going to be very good for him.
[711] They're citrus -based, as most things are here in Florida.
[712] And, you know, there's nothing wrong with him, but she's like, it looks like you need some vitamins.
[713] So, of course, he starts taking them, starts vomiting, feeling weak, the whole thing.
[714] So he stops taking them.
[715] and this infuriates her.
[716] These are all good signs that you're getting poisoned.
[717] Yeah.
[718] You're just like, so you're mad about the vitamins?
[719] Or is it something else?
[720] No, it's the vitamins.
[721] So on June 25th, 1983, she tells John that she's pregnant and she insists that they get married, which I think has something to do with the life insurance policy.
[722] It's fun to insist that you get married to someone.
[723] Yeah.
[724] It's so romantic.
[725] I know.
[726] that insistence.
[727] I demand that you love me forever.
[728] Okay, so the same night, she's hosting a party for an employee at Fingers and Faces.
[729] I think it was someone that specialized in faces.
[730] It was the face side of the business.
[731] And all the fingers people sat on one side of the room and the face people saw on the other, they're really catty.
[732] But she tells John that he should drive his own car to the party.
[733] and park in a very specific parking spot.
[734] Okay.
[735] And he's like, sounds good.
[736] I don't question you in any way.
[737] And thanks for those vitamins, Judy.
[738] Oh, God.
[739] So at the end of the night, she says, on the way home, will you stop by the liquor store and get some champagne and bring it home for us?
[740] And he's like, sure, no problem.
[741] And on his drive to the liquor store, his car explodes.
[742] But he survives.
[743] Uh -huh.
[744] Uh, you, I don't have a picture of this car.
[745] Uh, I should, but...
[746] Bring it, explain it to us.
[747] Okay, I'm gonna, I'll draw, I'll paint you a picture.
[748] That's what I meant.
[749] These early, these early, one of those early 80s cars that looks like it's a rectangle with two things cut out, right?
[750] Like how a child would draw a car.
[751] Yeah, exactly.
[752] Uh -uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, there's no curve in any way.
[753] This is before the Ford Taurus when everything was still real boxy.
[754] And I think it's, like, kind of a creamy yellow color.
[755] Absolutely.
[756] Bucking, what are they?
[757] Bucket seats.
[758] Sunflower.
[759] It's sunflower color.
[760] Bucket seats.
[761] Bench seats, thank you.
[762] That's the confetti lady.
[763] She knows everything.
[764] Okay, so, and the entire back.
[765] So it turned out there were five sticks of dynamite in the trunk that were connected with copper wire to the rear light.
[766] So the first time he fucking put on those brakes, the back of the car exploded five.
[767] pieces of dynamite worth.
[768] Where do you even buy dynamite?
[769] Acme, I think, right?
[770] Oh, everyone knows.
[771] Oh, I'm the idiot.
[772] She also got a couple anvils, but that was for later when he actually got home.
[773] And then, of course, just a big black spot she was going to put down on the ground and fall in, too.
[774] I could keep making Roadrunner references forever, everybody.
[775] Abandoned child.
[776] I was raised by TV.
[777] Okay.
[778] So, of course, the cops, since he survives, are like, hey, do you know anyone who wants to kill you?
[779] And he's like, no, this is nuts.
[780] Although, we did have a vitamin incident at our house a couple months ago.
[781] So they start looking into it, and they get the vitamins that she had been giving him.
[782] And it turns out there's paraformaldehyde in the vitamins.
[783] which is the chemical that you use at nail salons to clean the instruments.
[784] Ooh, that blue shit?
[785] Fingers.
[786] Faces.
[787] The blue shes, like barbersall stuff?
[788] I don't know.
[789] Whatever.
[790] Whatever pair of formaldehyde is.
[791] I don't know.
[792] I should have looked it up, I'm sorry.
[793] You shouldn't have.
[794] I said, yeah.
[795] Good one.
[796] Listen, look.
[797] Thank you so much.
[798] Okay, then they find out that when Judy and John had their romantic life insurance policy takeout session, she had secretly behind his back raised his limit to $500 ,000.
[799] What?
[800] Yeah.
[801] So then he was like, huh, maybe things aren't as they seem.
[802] So the cops then have like probable cause, I guess, to get a warrant and search the house, and they find there is copper wire in the teenage son's room, James, that match the copper wiring that hook the T &T up to the rearview lines.
[803] I'm sorry, but that is just the...
[804] I mean, not car bombs are bad, but that is fucking hilarious.
[805] We're just like, gassing it, gassing it.
[806] Oh, maybe I'll break.
[807] No, I don't have to.
[808] It's like, oh, I just wish I could have seen it.
[809] In the cartoon way, not in a real person way.
[810] Okay, so they also find out that Judy had made plans to go on a world cruise, and John was not invited.
[811] no ticket for John so they're like this doesn't seem great so in July of 1983 Judy is arrested for attempted murder as is her teenage son but he is later acquitted at trial and because this is so fucking nuts it raises suspicions about the 1 ,000 other dead people in her life so they start exhuming bodies and it turns out her son Michael had also had arsenic in his system, and James Goodyear had arsenic in his system, and Bobby Joe Morris had arsenic in his system.
[812] Heavy doses that it was described as.
[813] So then she's charged with their murders also.
[814] So the first trial was for her son, Michael.
[815] And in court, the prosecutors actually show how, based on the things that got dumped out of the canoe, where basically all the stuff, in the canoe was dumped out where James and Judy were treading water and holding onto the canoe, but where Michael's body was, there was nothing.
[816] So it couldn't have tipped where he was found.
[817] So basically they dumped him out of the canoe and then rode away and then staged the accident.
[818] Wow, you can tell all that?
[819] Yeah, by floating bags filled with, like, fucking Cheetos and stuff.
[820] Because they kept all the stuff around them.
[821] Yeah.
[822] Yeah.
[823] Weird.
[824] Yes.
[825] So she's convicted of the murder of her son Michael on March 31st, 1984.
[826] And then in October, she goes to trial for the attempted murder of her boyfriend, John Gentry.
[827] She's convicted of that murder.
[828] Her third trial begins a year later.
[829] And for this, she's facing the death penalty for the 1971 murder of her first husband, James Goodyear, by arsenic poisoning.
[830] On November 26, 1985, she's found guilty of that murder, and she's sentenced to die in the electric chair.
[831] Shit.
[832] So, of course, she denies ever having anything to do with any of these deaths.
[833] It's just a series of terrible coincidences.
[834] Fingers, Fingers, faces.
[835] Fingers' faces crossed.
[836] Yes.
[837] Cross your fingers across your face, that everything turns out good.
[838] So she never says anything when she's on death row.
[839] But 12 years into her sentence, she decides to grant an interview to a local newswoman named Sue Straw.
[840] You know, Sue, she's good.
[841] Because Sue was a customer at Judy's nail salon.
[842] Oh, my God.
[843] And things is.
[844] Sue.
[845] And Sue says in this show that I'm watching, she was like, even then, I could not see her as a murderer.
[846] Because she said she was just so soft.
[847] And then I was like, God damn it, Sue.
[848] She's a sociopath.
[849] That's the whole game.
[850] They're going to act like the thing that you you wouldn't suspect.
[851] You know who killed people?
[852] Soft people.
[853] Yeah.
[854] They kill people too.
[855] That's right.
[856] It's better to act soft than everyone's like, her, she's such a lady with her beautiful fingers and her gorgeous face.
[857] But then they have this clip of that interview.
[858] Uh -oh.
[859] And when Sue brings up the charge that Judy had dumped her own paralyzed son out of a fucking canoe and drowned him, she goes from talking like this of, this has been very hard for me. and she's kind of like one of these ladies.
[860] And then Sue's like, yeah, but how about that canoe thing?
[861] And she's like, and who said that?
[862] What witness said that?
[863] No witness said that.
[864] The prosecution said.
[865] And she like turns into the fucking wicked witch of the east so quickly.
[866] It's scary.
[867] It's like one of those teachers where like they're nice to the class and then you do some weird thing and they're like, get over there.
[868] And you're just like, holy shit.
[869] You can watch it.
[870] It's real good.
[871] And then the reaction shot of Sue Straw, she's like this.
[872] My face in my fingers.
[873] Okay, so then on March 30th, 1988, Judy Buonoano is put to death in the electric chair.
[874] She's a second woman in Florida state history to have been put to death in the electric chair.
[875] Her last meal, oh dear.
[876] This is going to, for me, not to minimize the insane human loss in this story, but for me, this is one of the most upsetting.
[877] parts of the story.
[878] Her last meal was a salad of broccoli, tomato, and asparagus.
[879] Go fuck yourself.
[880] Fuck you, Judy.
[881] That's not a fucking salad to begin with.
[882] Yeah.
[883] That's an array of gross things that nobody wants to eat.
[884] Asparagus?
[885] Like, what?
[886] You're just going to chew on a bunch of asparagus for an hour?
[887] Oh, and she had hot tea.
[888] Fuck off.
[889] Good.
[890] my natural enemy, this woman.
[891] And she also told a reporter she was looking forward to seeing the face of Jesus.
[892] Uh -oh, Judy, bad news.
[893] It don't work like that, baby.
[894] She was actually seeing the fingers of the devil.
[895] In reality, not the face of Jesus.
[896] Jesus was like, uh -oh.
[897] I'm not going to be there for you.
[898] She told, and I don't know if it was Suez -Draw or a another reporter, but she did tell a reporter before it happened, obviously before it happened, but like a while before when she was asked, she said her final words are going to be via condios.
[899] But on the actual day, when she got walked to the chair, and they asked her if she had any final words, she said, no, sir.
[900] Now here's a poem written by Julie.
[901] Bueno Anyo.
[902] Ready?
[903] Oh, everyone close your eyes.
[904] Everyone close your eyes.
[905] I just want to soak this in.
[906] Masks by Judy Buono Anno.
[907] Are you closing your eyes?
[908] Close your eyes.
[909] Don't be fooled by me. Don't be fooled by the face I wear.
[910] For I wear a thousand masks.
[911] Masks I'm afraid to take off and none of them are me. Pretending is an art that's second nature to me. But don't be fooled.
[912] For God's sake, don't be fooled.
[913] Wow.
[914] That's Judy Bueno Ono.
[915] Everybody.
[916] That's okay, do it.
[917] Do it.
[918] Not there.
[919] Is that her?
[920] Oh my gosh.
[921] She's like, bitch, please.
[922] Look at her.
[923] She's like, seriously, go fuck yourself if you think I'm guilty.
[924] She's like hot tea and vegetables, motherfucker.
[925] Oh, I love tomatoes so much.
[926] Tomatoes.
[927] Wait, I think there might be one more.
[928] There's also really good footage of her glaring at when we're Witnesses would come up and testify against her.
[929] She would be glaring at them.
[930] She's got, she is very small eyebrows and in kind of beady eyes.
[931] Oh.
[932] That's what she looked like when Sue Strah interviewed her much later on.
[933] I see her snapping.
[934] Bye, Judy.
[935] Bye, Judy.
[936] Good one.
[937] I love this.
[938] I know.
[939] Thank you.
[940] These are fun.
[941] We're firing Stephen and hiring these little clicker.
[942] We're not really going to do that.
[943] That was great.
[944] Thank you for that.
[945] Thank you for that.
[946] It's all Judy.
[947] Judy, Judy, Judy.
[948] All right.
[949] This is Ladies' Night.
[950] Oh.
[951] Y 'all ready for your girl, Eileen Warnos?
[952] I feel like it's very important to say right now for the employees of the Hard Rock Cafe and any any partners or loved ones that are here that have never listened.
[953] We are not cheering for a serial killer.
[954] That's not what's happening.
[955] This screaming except for Whisper County this is not for murder.
[956] No. It's about knowing about her.
[957] Yeah.
[958] It's about staying up at night and scaring the living shit out of yourself reading about what you did and finally you're not alone while you're going to be hearing about it.
[959] it.
[960] Yeah.
[961] This is one of those, oh, this was from January 2nd, 1992 when I stayed up all fucking night after watching Dateline because of this murder.
[962] I saw her picture and I stopped plucking my eyebrows.
[963] There's just a lot of emotional connection.
[964] Yeah.
[965] Okay.
[966] All right.
[967] This is a rough run because on one hand, you have, as a female, you have so much empathy for her until she starts really murdering people and then it's gone.
[968] So it's a tricky, it's a tricky situation.
[969] As life is.
[970] It is.
[971] So between November 1989 and November 1990, Eileen Warnos killed seven men along the highways of Central Florida.
[972] Let's, but let's start in Rochester, Michigan, though.
[973] Okay.
[974] So she's born, Ely Mornos is born in Rochester, Michigan, February, 1956.
[975] Her mom, Diane, was 14 years old when she gets married to the dad.
[976] They have a son named Keith when she's 15.
[977] Eileen when she's 16.
[978] Can you fucking imagine?
[979] Think of yourself when you are 14 years old, having a fucking baby.
[980] I could barely handle Doritos.
[981] I couldn't manage them alone.
[982] I had to have them taken out of my hand.
[983] I still have to take these away from me to Vince when I'm eating something.
[984] And at 14.
[985] Ugh.
[986] Yeah.
[987] All right.
[988] So that's where we're starting.
[989] It's hard.
[990] Okay.
[991] We're starting there.
[992] Let's fucking do it.
[993] Oh, do you want to see a photo of her when she's a beautiful little girl?
[994] I know.
[995] Isn't she pretty?
[996] Oh.
[997] It's so fucking dark.
[998] Yeah.
[999] Thank you lighting person.
[1000] I know.
[1001] Someone's on it.
[1002] Like paying attention.
[1003] I love that.
[1004] Well, we are at the hard rock fucking cafe.
[1005] I know.
[1006] They're like, yeah, we do this every night.
[1007] This isn't the last resort bar.
[1008] We'll get to that later.
[1009] Oh, shit.
[1010] No offense, because I want to go party at the last resort bar.
[1011] So bad.
[1012] Okay, Eileen's father, let's hear about him.
[1013] Two months before Eileen is born, he's incarcerated.
[1014] He's diagnosed a schizophrenic, later convicted of raping and kidnapping a seven -year -old girl.
[1015] Don't worry, he hangs himself in prison when she's 12 years old.
[1016] she never meets him.
[1017] Oh, my God.
[1018] I know.
[1019] It's weird.
[1020] Again, they're not clapping about, you know.
[1021] January, 1960, when Eileen's almost four years old, the mom, Diane, abandons them, the kids, leaves them with their grandparents.
[1022] They legally adopt her.
[1023] And I think it's one of those situations where she didn't know that until she was older.
[1024] Eileen, so a lot of this stuff is everyone in her past is dead, all the men that she killed.
[1025] can't say exactly what happens.
[1026] So it's all based on her own story.
[1027] So we don't know completely what's true, but there is a lot of cooperation based on the kids she grew up with.
[1028] So she says that her alcoholic grandfather sexually assaulted her, beat her when she was a child.
[1029] And by age 11, she starts engaging in sexual activities in exchange for cigarettes and drugs and food.
[1030] She also engages in sexual activities with her brother Yeah And then so they would hang out All the burnouts would hang out And I'm sure you had a place like this in Sacramento Because I fucking had a place like this in Irvine, California So the pits And it was like in the forest The fucking like just the gross area Where the like the burnouts would hang out You know what I mean?
[1031] Yes, did you have one of those?
[1032] Can I tell you?
[1033] Well it's Petaluma And we called it the third rock and it was this, there was a hill behind like a convalesan hospital, you'd pull into the parking lot and then you'd walk up this hill for like a half a mile.
[1034] And then there was just a rock that we'd all go sit on and drink like fucking keystone light or whatever.
[1035] Well, it turned out and I never put it together.
[1036] The rock was in, I could see my house from the rock.
[1037] I could see like my parents watching TV from there, but it was like, I would say, half a mile away.
[1038] finally one time my sister goes yeah we can hear you guys every word you guys say out there because there's nothing between the rock and my parents' house so we'd be out there just like hugging voices carry and they heard they knew exactly what we were doing and they knew exactly what we were talking about the entire time that's so smart it's kind of genius I mean not on our part no so stupid you get home and your mom's like I know you were eating Dorita And you had to have them taken away from you, Karen?
[1039] That's actually when I got caught smoking clothes.
[1040] Yeah, because I was so goth.
[1041] Because you smelled like a fucking spice cabinet?
[1042] Yeah, she's like, hey, hey Christmas ham, what's up?
[1043] But she came in, she did the classic, you know, psychiatric nurse move on me. She held up the clothes that she found in my pocket when she was doing the laundry.
[1044] and she goes, you can smoke these if you want, but they put glass in them and they cut your lungs, which is a fucking straight -up lie, but I never smoked a clove again after that.
[1045] It's not fun when your mom's like, go ahead, I'm doing shit, what you fucking do.
[1046] Like, oh, well, I was doing this stuff.
[1047] She cared.
[1048] She cared.
[1049] She wanted you to quit.
[1050] Okay, so she'd hang out with them.
[1051] She said that she, you know, there was a lot of sexual activity going on, and she was raped, and later people from the town in this documentary I was watching said that she was treated very badly oh here's a photo of her at like 14 years old which is like oh she kind of looks like me when I was that age like the skinny kind of awkward nerd I know okay did she have her own boat what?
[1052] Life really suck but she did have her own boat lucky 1970 At age 14, she gets pregnant, possibly by a friend of the family, an older man. She gives birth to a boy in a home for unwed mothers, and the child's place for adoption.
[1053] Goodbye.
[1054] Sorry, you said she was 14?
[1055] Yeah.
[1056] Just like her mom.
[1057] Yeah.
[1058] That's insane.
[1059] A few months later, she drops out of school.
[1060] Her grandmother dies.
[1061] Her grandfather kicks her out of the house.
[1062] So she's supporting herself as a sex worker, lives in the woods for a while, and hits the fucking road at 16, hitchhikes around the country for five years.
[1063] Where's that baby?
[1064] Adopted.
[1065] Oh, good, good.
[1066] And I don't, yeah.
[1067] She ends up eventually in 1976 in Daytona Beach, Florida.
[1068] Here she is.
[1069] Okay.
[1070] She meets a 69 -year -old Yacht Club president named Louis Grants Fell.
[1071] She marries him.
[1072] I think she's 22 at this time.
[1073] She's 22.
[1074] He's 69.
[1075] That's fine.
[1076] no they're just they're just grossed out by this what is it something december romance oh may December yeah yeah yeah they don't like love it turns out apparently not um so but she's still getting in confrontation she's kind of a brawler she's she's had it totally shit all their life yeah and all she knows is hitchhiking and fucking staying alive yeah uh so they get they're fighting all the time she kind of loses it all the time she has these like bursts of anger, and she eventually hits him with his own cane.
[1077] Oh.
[1078] And he gets a restraining order against her.
[1079] Their marriage is annulled after only nine weeks.
[1080] I'm just picturing Anna Nicole Smith's wedding picture.
[1081] But slightly different...
[1082] Yes, that's exactly what it's like.
[1083] Right?
[1084] Picture Anna Nicole Smith a little methier.
[1085] Okay.
[1086] He's a little bit younger.
[1087] Kind of like snazzy, you know, he's got his yachting cap on.
[1088] He's kind of rich.
[1089] Okay.
[1090] So it's Thirst and Halville Third?
[1091] Yes.
[1092] And Meth Anna Nicole Smith.
[1093] Horrifying.
[1094] It's not nice.
[1095] It's not funny at all.
[1096] Okay, so then her brother, Keith, dies of throat cancer.
[1097] Devastating to her.
[1098] They're actually really close.
[1099] He was kind of, yeah, it's weird.
[1100] It's a weird relationship, obviously.
[1101] Oh, probably.
[1102] Same brother?
[1103] Yeah.
[1104] Yeah.
[1105] Then her grandfather dies from her parent suicide, so she's on her fucking own.
[1106] Yeah.
[1107] After her divorce, she has tons of run -ins with the law.
[1108] She's arrested for drunk driving, Florida prison, for armed robbery.
[1109] She robs a liquor store in a bikini.
[1110] The inspiration for the film Spring Breakers.
[1111] There you go.
[1112] She does it in a bikini.
[1113] She gets the fuck out, drives away, her car breaks down, down the road.
[1114] She gets caught.
[1115] She, I know that she ends up being a very bad person, but she also has the worst fucking luck of all time.
[1116] it sounds like.
[1117] She is not mentally stable.
[1118] Bikini paroled in 1983 returns to sex work.
[1119] Around 1986, she meets what would become really the love of her life, 24 -year -old Tirea Moore.
[1120] They meet at a Daytona Beach gay bar.
[1121] She's a hotel maid.
[1122] In the movie, Monster, she's played by Christina Ricci.
[1123] She does not look like Christina Ricci.
[1124] That was a stretch.
[1125] Even when they cut all of Christina Ricci's hair off, she does not look like Christina Ricci.
[1126] But she's like a cute young thing.
[1127] You know what I mean?
[1128] Youth gives everyone good looks.
[1129] They meet, and Tyra's a lesbian.
[1130] And weirdly, Eileen's not really a lesbian.
[1131] She just finally has someone who loves her for who she is.
[1132] She wants to be loved, for Christ's sake.
[1133] She has someone who wants to stick by her.
[1134] She has someone she can take care of.
[1135] It almost seems like that's what she always needed.
[1136] She had relationships with men in the past were all disastrous, et cetera, et cetera.
[1137] They go home that night together, and they move in together.
[1138] And Eileen is really controlling over her, so she makes her quit her job, and she said she's going to earn money with sex work to take care of her.
[1139] And Tyra didn't approve of it, but you know what I mean.
[1140] Okay.
[1141] So there's a book called Dear Dawn, Wernos, in her own words.
[1142] So this chick, Don Botkins, was her best friend from when she was a teen.
[1143] teenager.
[1144] And when Eileen ends up in prison, she just sends her like four letters a day of like, it's crazy stuff, but they published a book about it.
[1145] So she says to Dawn that when she was in a gay relationship, she starts getting triggered by all these awful things that are happening to them because it's Florida in the mid -80s, lesbians, you know.
[1146] Not allowed.
[1147] Not allowed.
[1148] So they say like one of the neighbors kills their pets because they're lesbians living together and she said it fueled the fire within they couldn't find a place to live no one would let them live there together and if they did they'd like raise their rent really high because they were lesbians so Eileen feels like she has to hustle she carries a gun with her and she's just really unstable she starts hitchhiking and she starts stealing from people Okay, so this is when our first murder takes place.
[1149] November 30th, 1989, in Clearwater, Richard Mallory, he's a 51 -year -old electronics for a Pam man. He picks Eileen up outside of Tampa.
[1150] She's just hitchhiking.
[1151] Then she propositions him.
[1152] He agrees they pull off the road, and they drink and talk until dawn, which is so weird.
[1153] And again, this is all based on her.
[1154] It's telling what happened, obviously, we don't know.
[1155] Eventually, she shoots him four times in the chest in the back.
[1156] She takes his money, hides him in the woods under a carpet, and takes his car back to Tyra.
[1157] She tells Tyra that she killed the student and took his car.
[1158] Tyra's like, I didn't believe her.
[1159] So she says.
[1160] I mean, no. Tells her she doesn't believe her.
[1161] Then two weeks later, Richard's body is found in a wooded area in and I wrote this phonetically, Valusia County.
[1162] Now, isn't Volusia in the Middle East somewhere?
[1163] After a six -month break after killing Richard Mallory, on June 1st, 1990, the body of David Spears, a 43 -year -old construction worker in Winter Garden, is found...
[1164] There's a lot of cities here.
[1165] Get ready to cheer for your city.
[1166] Or any city you've ever heard of.
[1167] He's found nude along Florida State Road 19 in Citrus County.
[1168] He's been shot six times.
[1169] Then June 6th, 1990, Charles Karskadden, he's 40, part -time rodeo workers' bodies found in Pascow County.
[1170] He's been shot nine times with a 22.
[1171] 1990, Peter Symes leaves Jupiter, Florida for Arkansas.
[1172] He is 65 retired merchant seamen who devoted much of his time to Christian outreach ministry.
[1173] on July 4th, 1990, his car is found in Orange Springs, Florida.
[1174] And then so Tyra and Eileen are seen abandoning his car.
[1175] And after they accidentally get in a car accident...
[1176] Oh, again?
[1177] She has so much car trouble.
[1178] Making a car accident.
[1179] Like, people are like, hey, can we help you?
[1180] And they're like, nope, and just run into the fucking wilderness because they're like, this car below.
[1181] She prized the license plate out with their bare fucking hands and they book it from this car.
[1182] And the family's just standing there.
[1183] Ma 'am?
[1184] Ma 'am.
[1185] Are you okay?
[1186] Yeah.
[1187] Fuck.
[1188] Yeah.
[1189] And so they're like, well, here's what she looked like.
[1190] And at this point they're like, we don't know why all these men are turning up dead with the same gun.
[1191] They kind of know there's a serial killer at this point going on.
[1192] So they find out the car has come from this guy who went missing.
[1193] So they have their photos and the drawings in the paper at this point.
[1194] And they get Eileen's fingerprints off the car, which were on file, because she got in so much trouble before.
[1195] Remember the bikini thing?
[1196] I sure do.
[1197] So they're looking for her at this point.
[1198] So then she kills Troy Burris.
[1199] He's 50 years old sausage salesman from Ocala?
[1200] Ocala.
[1201] What they say?
[1202] Ocala.
[1203] You were able to get Ocala out of that?
[1204] Because I knew it was one of the...
[1205] two things.
[1206] Okay.
[1207] And I knew that I was probably going to get it wrong.
[1208] They should put accents over these vowels that are so important.
[1209] I mean, it would be nice.
[1210] And then on July, so he, on 31st, 1990, he's reported missing.
[1211] And then on August 4th, 1990, his body is found in a wooded area along State Road 19 in Marion County.
[1212] He's been shot twice.
[1213] Charles Dick Humphrey, 56, September 11th, 1990, retired U .S. Air Force made former state child abuse investigator.
[1214] Oh.
[1215] And former chief of police on September 12th, 1990, his bodies found in Marion County.
[1216] He's fully clothed, had been shot six times in the head and torso, and his cars later found in Suwannee County.
[1217] No. Seems like you did it right.
[1218] Or not enough people care.
[1219] They're like, just say what you want.
[1220] We don't like that place that much anyways.
[1221] Walter Antonio, age 62, he's a trucker, security guard police reservist November 19th, 1990.
[1222] His nearly nude body is found near a remote logging road in Dixie County.
[1223] He'd been shot four times.
[1224] Five days later, his car is found as well.
[1225] So, then, finally, they're like looking for her.
[1226] They track her down to a biker bar in Port Orange called the Last Resort.
[1227] Yelped it.
[1228] Still there.
[1229] For real?
[1230] Oh, hell yeah.
[1231] And there's a picture on the wall that said, like, Eileen Warnes had her last beer here.
[1232] Like, they're into it.
[1233] After party.
[1234] You guys in?
[1235] That's kind of nice.
[1236] There's a bar somewhere that's like us.
[1237] A whole bar full of drunks that's just like, they were like, check this shit out.
[1238] Are you freaking out?
[1239] I'm freaking out.
[1240] Let's all freak out.
[1241] It's so good.
[1242] Yeah.
[1243] Okay, so they grab her, they find Tyra, who at this point was like, I'm getting the fuck out of here and went gone back home.
[1244] She, they find her and they're like, listen, we don't think you did anything, so you need to get a confession and we won't prosecute you.
[1245] So she's like, all right, calls are, like, have all these calls from the fucking motel.
[1246] Finally, Elaine's like, I'll confess so you don't get in trouble for it.
[1247] But she did help, right?
[1248] It was like aiding and abetting?
[1249] She, I think that she said she only knew about the one that, the first one, and she didn't believe Eileen.
[1250] She didn't believe the other 18.
[1251] She says Eileen did them on her own, never told her about them.
[1252] Oh, okay.
[1253] She was just getting cars and money.
[1254] That's all she knew about.
[1255] She thought she was stealing them.
[1256] But wasn't she there when they ran into the woods after they got into the car accident?
[1257] Yeah, but she said this car is stolen.
[1258] We've got to get the fuck out here.
[1259] Oh, okay.
[1260] You know what I mean?
[1261] Okay.
[1262] I just die and don't buy it.
[1263] Okay.
[1264] Yeah.
[1265] Okay.
[1266] So Eileen ends up confessing to all the murders in detail, but she, along with the help of her defense, claims they were all in self -defense that all the men had attacked her and tried to rape her and kill her.
[1267] Except she shot them six to nine times.
[1268] Yeah.
[1269] And a lot of them were clothed.
[1270] There was no, I don't know.
[1271] Yeah.
[1272] Okay.
[1273] Yeah.
[1274] All right.
[1275] So then the fucking trial blows up.
[1276] Do you remember it?
[1277] Yes.
[1278] It got huge, right?
[1279] and people are trying to make money left and write off for books and movies.
[1280] Even like some of the cops are like trying to get movie deals out of it.
[1281] And then this woman named Arlene Prail, she's like, I just saw her on TV and I knew she was innocent and I don't know if she's Southern.
[1282] And I needed to be friends with her.
[1283] Yeah, it's the best voice.
[1284] Yeah.
[1285] I just knew in my heart that Jesus, you know, whatever.
[1286] And she's like, and I needed to know her.
[1287] And I think they had money.
[1288] so she was going to help her with, but she's like, and I wanted to talk to her, but the only way they could get into prison to talk to her was if you were related to her.
[1289] So she and her husband adopts her.
[1290] What the fuck?
[1291] Can I tell you how excited I was when I heard that today in the hotel?
[1292] Yes.
[1293] I was just like, they're going to love that part.
[1294] Adops her.
[1295] And this woman, not surprisingly, turns out to be a fucking crazy person and ends up making like 15, $50 ,000 off of like, wants to do like an art show to like put up all of Eileen's drawings and stuff is selling all the shit to the media and Eileen later is like, fuck that bitch.
[1296] It's almost like a bad version of the blind side.
[1297] Oh yeah.
[1298] It's like if the blind side was a fucked up super dark like, oh it sucks.
[1299] Bless her heart.
[1300] Bless her heart though.
[1301] Okay, so So, Eileen, and you see these videos of her, and there's just, she's clearly a million different people.
[1302] She's so crazy sometimes and so sympathetic and sad sometimes.
[1303] She takes the psychopathy checklist test thing, which if you get 30 points, you're legally a psychopath, or whatever, and she gets 32.
[1304] Yes.
[1305] She passed.
[1306] She fucking nailed that shit.
[1307] She passed the test.
[1308] Eileen, it's the first time that you succeeded in your life.
[1309] They didn't like that.
[1310] They really did.
[1311] Whose fucking side are you on?
[1312] It turned on you, man. You're right, you're right.
[1313] She is diagnosed with borderline and antisocial personality disorder and her love of her life, Tyra, ends up testifying against her.
[1314] Yeah, which she just liked, I don't think she, realized that she was turning on her like that, so yeah.
[1315] And then she gets sentenced to sentence to death, convicted in 19 -degree murder, sentenced to death, says to the jury as they're walking out, I hope you all get raped.
[1316] Oh my God.
[1317] Yeah.
[1318] You can't say that.
[1319] No. That's fucking horrible.
[1320] Yeah.
[1321] And she says that when they convict her and then the next day they have to go back in for sentencing.
[1322] And she's like, shirt.
[1323] Probably like, have you noticed the borderline thing?
[1324] That's what happened yesterday.
[1325] Today I'm fine.
[1326] Don't be mad about that rape thing, okay, guys?
[1327] Because I was just upset.
[1328] I take it back.
[1329] I'm really...
[1330] I can be that way sometimes.
[1331] That's like when you, like, stand up at a table and tell people off and walk out, and then you're like, I'm sorry, I didn't get my purse.
[1332] I left my purse on the chair.
[1333] Have you done that?
[1334] Oh, Eileen.
[1335] I know.
[1336] Come on.
[1337] Stop it.
[1338] Stop it.
[1339] Stop it.
[1340] That's cheap comedy, and I don't want you to support me in it.
[1341] Please.
[1342] Horrifying.
[1343] So after almost 20 years in solitary lockdown, on July 1st, 2001, at the age...
[1344] Okay, when she was convicted, she was 36 years old.
[1345] Hi, that's a year younger.
[1346] than me. If you see these photos of her, you're like, damn.
[1347] That could be my adopted mother.
[1348] Fuck.
[1349] Okay.
[1350] Did she do meth and stuff?
[1351] No, really?
[1352] Oh, yeah.
[1353] She was an extreme alcoholic.
[1354] She says a lot of these things were done in blackouts, alcoholic, yeah, math -y -math, all the things.
[1355] I got to say, though, as a blackout alcoholic, I didn't get anything done.
[1356] So, the idea that you'd be like, propositioning a guy, getting him to then pull over, have some drinks and taco, but shoot him seven fucking times.
[1357] Like, drag him to the woods, yeah.
[1358] Wrap him in a rug.
[1359] That's not happening.
[1360] Okay, that's nice to hear because I always thought like maybe I'm just a bad blackout drunk.
[1361] No. Because I don't black out often, but if I do, it's because I fell the fuck asleep.
[1362] Yeah.
[1363] Is that blacking out?
[1364] With like a weird taco on your chest or something, or you're just like, oh, I wanted to have that at the time.
[1365] And now it's gross.
[1366] Just a taco from Jack in the Box, I guess is what I'm thinking.
[1367] weird taco.
[1368] Not a good taco.
[1369] Like, not a, you didn't go to the taco truck and get a good taco.
[1370] You were just like, oh, and they got that.
[1371] Or the one that they have now with the egg is the taco.
[1372] That's a weird taco.
[1373] What is it?
[1374] It's like a fucking, I just, I keep spitting.
[1375] I spit so much this whole time.
[1376] It's like an, you don't want to know.
[1377] What?
[1378] It's like an egg, like a, let's say a hard, or a fried egg.
[1379] And then they used a fried egg as a taco show.
[1380] What for?
[1381] For breakfast, Taco.
[1382] I don't understand.
[1383] I've only seen photos.
[1384] Is Taco Bell, I think?
[1385] Is this like a, it's Taco Bell?
[1386] Yeah, it's like their breakfast.
[1387] Taco Bell cannot make eggs.
[1388] That should not be legal.
[1389] That shouldn't, they can't handle that.
[1390] Whenever you see like an egg in like, when it's not scrambled, you're like, oh, it's a real egg.
[1391] I know this, where this came from.
[1392] Like, what did they do to that egg to make it look like it's in a real thing?
[1393] It's fucking sawdust that's dyed white.
[1394] or something.
[1395] How many people are going to die because of eggs at Taco Bell?
[1396] Like thousands and thousands.
[1397] We're like, oh, we forgot to put those ones in the refrigerator.
[1398] For nine months.
[1399] Now they're babies.
[1400] We thought they kept.
[1401] We thought they kept.
[1402] Okay.
[1403] Shit.
[1404] We should, I feel like from now on at the top of the show, we should go over any new fast food that I haven't heard of.
[1405] Because my mind is fucking blunt.
[1406] right now.
[1407] Yesterday, when we were in Tampa, and I was telling Karen, you've been there, you have an active serial killer, so.
[1408] I was telling Karen and everyone else here, the audience, about a murder that happened in Lando Lakes, and Karen lost her fucking mind.
[1409] I didn't know that was a real place where the butter came from.
[1410] I became legitimately starstruck by a city that produces is butter.
[1411] I'm not putting you down because I didn't know until I was doing my research and I was like, what?
[1412] That's crazy.
[1413] It's just, oh, God bless it.
[1414] There are good things that happen in this world also.
[1415] It's just nice to remember that there's a lake filled with butter somewhere in Florida.
[1416] I love that.
[1417] I love that.
[1418] Put that on the positivity board.
[1419] Put it on the positivity board next time.
[1420] That won't get you fired.
[1421] Probably.
[1422] Don't forget Landa Lakes, everybody.
[1423] Edward, get in here now.
[1424] Stop using the positivity board.
[1425] It was Edward.
[1426] Yeah.
[1427] Good.
[1428] So, after almost 20 years, solitary fucking lockdown.
[1429] That's awful.
[1430] Yeah, writing done crazy fucking letters for four days, four times a day.
[1431] And these are bananas letters.
[1432] Sometimes they're coherent, sometimes they're not.
[1433] It's really fucking sad.
[1434] Like, for a moment, I hadn't really read about a lot of this And for a moment, I felt really bad for her.
[1435] And then I was like, oh, wait a minute.
[1436] She fucking killed a bunch of people in cold blood for no fucking reason.
[1437] Yeah.
[1438] Got it.
[1439] And, okay, at the age of 45, she goes up to the state and is like, can we stop it with the mandated appeals?
[1440] And can you just kill me?
[1441] No. She's like, I'm sick of all the fucking taxpayer money going to this.
[1442] It's bullshit.
[1443] And they were like, hey, remember when you said you wanted us to be raped?
[1444] The answer's no. Well, she was like, people, every time that I get, that the appeals get overturned, some fucking big wig politician gets like his bump because he fucking, you know, keeps her in, and that's the guy who's hard on crime.
[1445] And like, she's kind of over it and crazy.
[1446] Yeah, clearly.
[1447] So she says, look, bros, the murders weren't self -defense.
[1448] I fucking killed them because I robbed them and I didn't want any witnesses.
[1449] So they're like, okay, let's do it.
[1450] And so, I'm paraphrasing.
[1451] At the case you were like, what happened to our legal system?
[1452] Well, and because that in and of itself could be a lie.
[1453] I mean, like, it's such a great area.
[1454] And she took it back later, but.
[1455] Yeah, no, I don't know how to feel about her.
[1456] I know.
[1457] The age of 46 years old, October 9th, 2002, she is put to death.
[1458] She said on the stand that when she's doing this thing I kill again I have hate crawling through my system And that's it, 2002 Goodbye, that's Eileen, your girl Eileen Warnow Wow She had it real bad, but there's lots of people that have it real bad That's the thing That is the thing Yeah Who wants a jewelry box?
[1459] We don't have one We have time for a quick hometown We do too tell them the rules there's rules they're really quick let's just do some rules really quick it would be nice if you're if the hometown that you have is from Florida that's it's just more fun right because then other people can yell at whatever city you name it's good if you're not so drunk that you lose your own place in your own story but that's up to you and you can't read off paper those are the rules so with that in mind it's George's night to pick.
[1460] Torture them.
[1461] Okay.
[1462] You're right there.
[1463] Vince.
[1464] Vince is right over there.
[1465] Here, bring him his sunglasses.
[1466] How are you going to get out?
[1467] Yeah, just come over this.
[1468] Oh, can she climb over the two here?
[1469] Oh, my God.
[1470] Yeah, save some time.
[1471] Yes, I love this.
[1472] Yes.
[1473] Right down there.
[1474] Thank you.
[1475] Thank you for that.
[1476] I saw her face when you went, you can't be that.
[1477] She was raising her hand.
[1478] Then you go, you can't be that drunk.
[1479] And she goes, that's me. Like, she got so excited that she wasn't that drunk.
[1480] I'm right on the verge.
[1481] Where'd she go?
[1482] Uh -oh.
[1483] Vince is like, go get my sunglasses.
[1484] So much pressure.
[1485] Where'd she go?
[1486] There she comes.
[1487] She's partying.
[1488] She's partying backstage.
[1489] Uh -oh.
[1490] Come on, honey.
[1491] Get up.
[1492] Kristen.
[1493] This is Kristen.
[1494] Come over here.
[1495] Stand on the magic rug.
[1496] Okay.
[1497] Yeah.
[1498] Here we go.
[1499] Where are you from?
[1500] Here, Orlando.
[1501] Orlando.
[1502] Yeah.
[1503] Okay, so this one is about my mom's best friend when she was like 20, 21.
[1504] She went over to her best friend Catherine's house because they were planning her wedding because she was engaged, Catherine.
[1505] She was engaged to this guy named Keith.
[1506] And when they went over there, Catherine was missing because she had, I guess, to get hair dye or something, but she never came back.
[1507] She's, cops come, and they have family.
[1508] her body in the trunk of the car she's been beaten and stabbed and it turns out I'm gonna make it pretty short it turns out that her her fiance Catherine's fiance Keith's best friend Danny actually really hated Catherine and was in love with Keith oh shit yes this is a new one yeah yeah and it turns but it gets you Even better.
[1509] Well, not better.
[1510] Worse, worse, worse, better.
[1511] You guys get it.
[1512] Definitely worse.
[1513] Definitely worse.
[1514] Yeah, definitely worse.
[1515] Well, it turns out that he used to like make, our, Danny used to make fun of Catherine all the time, because apparently we find out what happens.
[1516] Yeah.
[1517] But he also used to call her the lazy pig.
[1518] Like, he would call her a lazy pig all the time.
[1519] That's not a fun.
[1520] They found her car behind a restaurant called the lazy pig.
[1521] No. Is that here in Orlando or was?
[1522] Not any longer, but yes, it was.
[1523] What kind of restaurant was it?
[1524] I'm going to go with barbecue.
[1525] I don't know.
[1526] Makes sense.
[1527] That's good deduction.
[1528] But yeah, he did that on purpose, like to send a...
[1529] No, it was a total message sent.
[1530] They actually did not find out it was him until a really long time after.
[1531] With Jeff Ashton, he was part of the Casey Anthony.
[1532] Oh, yeah, yeah.
[1533] He started a whole cold case thing in Orlando, and she was actually the very first cold case that they solved.
[1534] Wow.
[1535] So it wasn't until a long time after, but we got our guy.
[1536] How many years was it?
[1537] I want to say probably a good 15.
[1538] Oh, wow.
[1539] Because this happened in the early 70s, and they didn't find out to, like, more towards the late 80s.
[1540] Can you imagine this whole time your friend's like, Keith's, like, fucking crying and his friends helping him, and then it turned out the BMI with, oh, my God.
[1541] Oh, yeah, because he was, like you said, he was consoling and everything and...
[1542] What a creep, fuck.
[1543] And it was, like, definitely, like, a passion murder, like...
[1544] And what was her name?
[1545] Catherine.
[1546] Her name was Catherine.
[1547] Oh, honey.
[1548] Which is what really matters.
[1549] Yeah, exactly.
[1550] Wow, that's, that was horrifying.
[1551] Yeah, the lazy pig part is what creeps me out.
[1552] Lazy pig is the fucking worst.
[1553] Yeah.
[1554] Oh, man, you would have loved that jewelry box.
[1555] I feel bad now.
[1556] Oh, shit.
[1557] Someone in there, like, I don't want those shit.
[1558] And then it's like, she would love it.
[1559] This is pretty cool.
[1560] I'm good with this.
[1561] Okay, yay.
[1562] Yes.
[1563] Kristen, we give her Vince's sunglasses as a guest.
[1564] It's awesome.
[1565] Yeah, wow.
[1566] Well done.
[1567] Lazy pig.
[1568] Keep your eyes peeled for the friend of the boyfriend that's a dick to you.
[1569] Yes.
[1570] There's always something.
[1571] Boys, don't let your friends be dicks to your girlfriends.
[1572] And mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be cowboys.
[1573] I would say that's more important.
[1574] That's a better.
[1575] Don't you think?
[1576] Fuck.
[1577] I mean that.
[1578] Thank you.
[1579] Incredible show.
[1580] Thank you so much for that was not the state that I didn't want to go to.
[1581] I wanted to come here because you guys just have so many murders.
[1582] Yeah, I mean so excited.
[1583] It's crazy.
[1584] The choices.
[1585] It was an embarrassment of riches.
[1586] Yeah.
[1587] Oh, now you guys have to let Kristen sit down.
[1588] But as she passes, tell her what a great job she did.
[1589] Great job.
[1590] We appreciate you guys all being here, mostly because you are enabling us to have this be our only job, which is for.
[1591] fucking nuts and a dream come true.
[1592] We're so lucky.
[1593] Thank you guys for supporting us through this whole insane fucking thing that's been happening.
[1594] It's crazy.
[1595] And thank you for being here with us and stay sexy.
[1596] And don't!