Randy Jackson

[0] Welcome, welcome, welcome.

[1] This is American Idol.

[2] Isn't that how the thing with it?

[3] I don't think they said welcome, welcome, welcome.

[4] No, I know.

[5] That was us, but then I transitioned into it.

[6] Yeah, yeah, that was good.

[7] This is American Idol.

[8] I'm joined by Miss Padman, Miss Monica Lily Padman.

[9] Miss Paula Abdul.

[10] The Paula to your...

[11] Am I the Simon in this mix?

[12] Well, yeah, because Randy's Randy.

[13] That's true.

[14] We're going to interview Randy Jackson.

[15] a world -renowned musician, a record producer, and an A &R executive, an author, a television producer, an entrepreneur, and founder of the Unify Health Labs.

[16] I came to love him on American Idol, for me for you, dog.

[17] Say it all the time still.

[18] And he has a new show, a revamp of Name That Tune, which I absolutely loved the earlier iterations of.

[19] So see Randy on Fox's Name That Tune on Wednesdays at 9 -8 Central.

[20] Please enjoy.

[21] Wait, I have to say something really important.

[22] Yeah, how cute you thought he was?

[23] Yes.

[24] Randy is the cutest, best guess we've ever had.

[25] Well, he is a shiny light bulb.

[26] He is.

[27] He's so positive and likable.

[28] It's insane.

[29] I loved him.

[30] For me, for you, dog, I really liked him.

[31] Yeah.

[32] I'm glad you paused me to say that.

[33] Please enjoy.

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[38] He's an object to.

[39] Oh, we need something like this, Monica.

[40] I like a look at that.

[41] Can you see what we got going on?

[42] It's really janky compared to your setup.

[43] Yeah, I don't know what's going on over there.

[44] There's a lot of really disturbing images behind you.

[45] It's distracting, isn't it?

[46] There's some military hardware on a poster, but it's covered by a soundboard.

[47] I'm getting very worried, man. I don't know I'm going to check my pulse.

[48] What part of town do you live in, Randy?

[49] I live over here in the Hollywood Hills, but the studio's right down here in Hollywood.

[50] Where you're shooting, name that tune?

[51] No, name that tune we shot in Australia.

[52] Get the fuck out of here.

[53] Yeah, bro, you should have come over, man. Oh, I want to.

[54] We have a colleague we work with who's in New Zealand.

[55] And every time we FaceTime him, he's strong.

[56] rolling down the street, no mask, he's on dates, he goes to the movies.

[57] It's like a superpower.

[58] Well, listen, we have to do two weeks of hardcore quarantine where you couldn't leave your hotel room.

[59] I mean, this is serious.

[60] Guards at your door, they're checking COVID every two days.

[61] They come with hazmat suits.

[62] You can't leave your room.

[63] Yeah.

[64] It's bizarre.

[65] I mean, if we did this in America, maybe my work, you know what I mean?

[66] Now, let me ask you, for somebody who works as much as you do.

[67] Having that two weeks imprisonment in the hotel, was it kind of dreamy?

[68] Did you recharge?

[69] I feel like this may have added a year to your life and you didn't even know it.

[70] You know what, Dax, man, I feel like, you know, I had to check in with myself and like, I thought, where am I?

[71] Am I here now?

[72] What do I want to do?

[73] What do I want to see in life?

[74] Today is the first day of the rest of my life, Dax.

[75] I believe that.

[76] What am I doing with my life?

[77] Am I happy with who and where I am?

[78] Yeah.

[79] Deep thoughts.

[80] It gave me deep thoughts, dude.

[81] I had to go inward, man. You know, the kind of stuff you and Monica could be doing always going in.

[82] I must say, it's the only way we could have shot this show with live audience, live band.

[83] You know, it's the only way we could have done it.

[84] Name that tune is back, Dax.

[85] Yes, it is.

[86] Now, I watched the teaser for it and how the fuck are people getting a song from one note?

[87] Honestly, so Monica's only 33.

[88] So there was a very famous show, name that tune, and you'd hear a portion of the song, and you'd have to guess it.

[89] Right, Randy?

[90] Monica, Dax and I are only a couple of years older than you.

[91] Oh, I know.

[92] Stop front, Monica.

[93] Stop front.

[94] Don't step to these young bucks.

[95] Exactly.

[96] Well, you know, listen, you're talking about the bitter note, the iconic bitter note round.

[97] So name that tune is back, a show from the 50s, that was just the iconic music guessing game show.

[98] So we got the opening rounds like, you know, the Spin Me Round, which we spin the wheel to pick categories, mix tape.

[99] We do a bunch of stuff like that.

[100] Then we get into Bitter Note.

[101] Like Dax would say, I could name that song in seven notes.

[102] Monica, you say I could name it in five.

[103] Then we get to the Golden Medley, which is the final round, which you hear this song, you got to name it, but you got 30 seconds to name seven songs.

[104] So you really got to know the name exactly.

[105] Really quick.

[106] I'm going to do an example for Monica.

[107] So Monica, I'm going to predict it.

[108] You can get a song in four notes.

[109] And I don't know anything about music.

[110] Randy, maybe there's more notes here.

[111] But just let's try it, okay?

[112] Doon, do, do, do.

[113] Can't touch this.

[114] Or a super freak.

[115] Which sample can't touch us.

[116] Tricky.

[117] It gets tricky probably with music.

[118] Also, I'm the worst to play this game.

[119] I'm really not.

[120] I thought it was super freak.

[121] I thought it was super freak.

[122] And it was.

[123] But see, here's the deal.

[124] You got to know the name exactly Oh It can't be you're a super freak I'm a super freak It's got to be the name exactly Oh God Like I'll show you how I would have failed that Randy hit me with those four notes That can you don't take home to mother Oh you would just Oh wow He went to the magic mic version of it That's the thing That's what makes it so fun Yeah the best part is is a lot of times when you're watching a game show, you don't get sucked in all that much because they're like in this crazy world, shit's flying around, buzzers, blah, blah, blah.

[125] But that thing, that very simple thing of hearing a little bit of a song and being with other people and everyone trying to get it, I feel like you would get sucked in really easy, just watching it.

[126] Like, it would feel very participatory.

[127] People at home, whether you realize it or not, you're playing along because you're trying to guess what song it is too.

[128] Yeah.

[129] Now, Jane Krakowski, she hosts it, And you are the musical director.

[130] Band leader, musical director, side banana.

[131] Whatever title you want, I'm going to give you, CEO of music.

[132] How about God?

[133] Music God.

[134] Music God.

[135] I hosted a game show for Fox last year.

[136] By the way, Rob Wade, wonderful guy.

[137] Let's just give him a shout out.

[138] Yes, I remember that show.

[139] We love Rob Wade.

[140] I hope you repurposed our wheel in your show because it was expensive.

[141] I would go on this emotional journey with these people, right, where they're either going to win a ton or they're going to lose a ton.

[142] And it was emotionally quite taxing.

[143] And I wonder if you being more on that piano, are you protected at all or do you go on the journey too?

[144] Jane and I went on all the journeys, Dax, as you know, because you see people play this thing.

[145] It gets so close and you want them to win so bad.

[146] Yeah, it's not our money, right?

[147] Yeah, it's not my money.

[148] It's not your money.

[149] You want them to get.

[150] It's not Monica's money.

[151] So you're like, come on, guys, you're so close.

[152] And so when somebody would win, oh, my God, Jane was crying.

[153] We're just all emotional because you pull for these guys and you see what it can mean to their life, how it could change their life.

[154] Somebody works as a clerk somewhere and they're only making X amount of dollars a year and this could be more money than they'll make in two years.

[155] Yeah, and people could own a home, right?

[156] They could like start a home.

[157] Dude, you got the $100 ,000 gram.

[158] pride you can win money in the other rounds.

[159] It's crazy, man. I had to fight the urge to offer them my paycheck.

[160] I remember pulling the producer aside me, like, let's go in on something here.

[161] This was heartbreaking.

[162] Let's see if we can put a little safety net under.

[163] Oh, my God, bro.

[164] That's funny, though, but that's what Jane and I felt.

[165] Yeah.

[166] So, Randy, you grew up in Baton Rouge, Louisiana.

[167] Dirty, dirty South, man. Come on, Dax.

[168] Where you from, man?

[169] Well, I'm from Detroit.

[170] So, I'm from The Dirty Sal.

[171] You are.

[172] You're from stanky Atlanta.

[173] Ooh, they put some stink on it.

[174] Yo, ATL, look at you.

[175] You could tell that, right, looking at her?

[176] You could feel the rhythm.

[177] Yeah, I could see that ATL right in it.

[178] That hot Lanna's just pouring out of every pore.

[179] But Randy, you know, I'm midway between you and Monica, and it hits me all at once.

[180] Like, holy shit, I talked on an old clunky phone and I fucking dialed it by rotating this thing.

[181] And it took six minutes to make a phone call.

[182] Like, wow, a lot's hands.

[183] happen in my life, right?

[184] Or the words that people just said out loud everywhere I went on the playground, what you called people.

[185] It's evolved so much.

[186] And when I think about you being born in Baton Rouge in 56, like you being a child in the 60s in the deep south, certainly you've witnessed an insane amount of change.

[187] Is that accurate?

[188] Dude, so much change.

[189] You know, I was talking to somebody the other day.

[190] My friend was asking me, so what were you think were the biggest changes of you now and then.

[191] I said, bro, I was eating everything, fried, sugar, dusted and salt, tobacco like crazy.

[192] We never trusted a skinny chef.

[193] Now, I started my own health care line, Unify Health Labs with vitamins and stuff.

[194] Like, I've lost all this weight and got my body together.

[195] And people go like, were you used to eat like that?

[196] Yes, but I mean, I didn't know anything, bro.

[197] I didn't know that I didn't know.

[198] that I didn't know.

[199] Down there, they go, boy, you got that big belly.

[200] You know, you must be eating good.

[201] And I'm like, yeah, man. You'd have made it, Doc.

[202] You got that big belly.

[203] You drink a lot of beer, huh?

[204] Yeah, yeah.

[205] So now, I'm in California.

[206] I'm on this crazy health thing.

[207] I got vitamins.

[208] You know what I'm saying?

[209] Like, it's such a different life.

[210] Well, it's like you've lived different iterations of a life.

[211] But I guess what I was more referenced, seeing as when I see these black and white news footage videos of people spraying black people with fire hoses.

[212] Oh, yeah.

[213] That was mid -60s in Louisiana.

[214] I guess that's what I'm saying is you were a little boy and that was the climate.

[215] You know, it was so crazy.

[216] I don't remember it that well because I was young.

[217] I remember seeing all of this stuff and living through a lot of it and seeing the changes that it made.

[218] the more vivid memory I had as I was a kid, but seeing how Woodstock transformed that then young youth to take over America, to burn money, burn flags, burn bras, saying music is free, we're free, I don't care if we're all pumped up on drugs, this is the world we want to see and we want to live in.

[219] So I see that now when you see the marches, you see Black Lives Matter, you see how much it means to millennials, how much it means the people that are woke and saying, We ain't having this no more, man. We need something else.

[220] We're demanding change.

[221] So I was a part of that.

[222] You know, seeing H. Rapp Brown, who is this black militant leader, seeing fight to KKK.

[223] I mean, you know, all of that, what it reminded you of what we've gone through the last year so in this country.

[224] We've come far, but we still got a long -ass way to go.

[225] You know what I'm saying?

[226] I mean, let's just keep it real.

[227] Oh, yeah, yeah.

[228] Well, again, yeah, it's misleading because there's, so many layers of the oppression that it feels like I've said this on here many times like I grew up learning oh there was slavery that was abhorrent what a terrible thing but then old A blinking came through and we're good no slaves we fix that and then I come to learn about the suppression of the segregation the Jim Crow and you go oh oh oh wow okay so only one little element of it changed and there's all this other stuff and then you clean up some of that but then you're like oh no man still no generation of wealth redlining there's so much and yeah there's no slapping each other on the back yet but again big strides since you've been alive oh yeah you know as they say in the south which i'm sure probably monica heard this in a tl i don't know because look a lot of this that we're going through is about fear right fear of the person of the other color fear the person i don't know fear of everything the sand in the south the old South, the more things change, the more they should stay the same.

[229] That makes absolutely no sense.

[230] So if ever there was a paradox.

[231] Yeah, it wasn't good before.

[232] So why is it going to be good now?

[233] What are you talking about?

[234] Things were never great.

[235] They're getting better, but they were never great.

[236] So, you know, people are just afraid of change, you know what I mean?

[237] Sorry.

[238] I don't know if you heard that daddy, but my seven -year -old decided she was going to get involved.

[239] That made my day.

[240] That made my day.

[241] See, listen, we're keeping it real with Dax and Monica, y 'all.

[242] We've got kids coming in and out.

[243] Daddy's in the house.

[244] Hello, Daddy.

[245] If you think we're on the penthouse floor somewhere, well, you just found out we're not.

[246] No, no, no, no. I'm saying, are you my daddy?

[247] So what age do you start playing bass and why that instrument?

[248] I actually started playing drums first because my brother's a drummer.

[249] And I started playing guitar.

[250] Then I started playing bass.

[251] Then I started playing saxophone and piano.

[252] Then I went back to bass.

[253] But, you know, the bass just spoke to me. You know, bass is the real final frontier.

[254] You know, the bottom rules forever, Dax.

[255] You know that being from Detroit, man. Uh -huh.

[256] With all that Motor City, Motown, this, man. Come on, man. Absolutely.

[257] Now, that role, the bass player, generally speaking, you got to be the most eccentric member of the whole fucking band, right?

[258] Like, there's a great history of those guys just being the most out there dudes in the band.

[259] Of course, man. We're living our best life as Oprah says.

[260] Come on, Doc, me and you.

[261] Yo.

[262] So I hope that this shocks you.

[263] Fingers crossed, as I learned about you today, I learned that you potentially played on one of my favorite songs of all time, and I don't think you would have ever guessed this one of my favorite songs.

[264] But Elephants in Love, Jean -Luc Ponte, off of Fables, were you on that?

[265] Oh, my God.

[266] Look at you.

[267] Look at you.

[268] Look at you.

[269] Wow, Dax, you go deep, brother.

[270] I had no idea.

[271] I knew you went to UCLA and you graduated with honors for sure.

[272] My dad loved Jean -Luc Ponte, and I grew up listening to it.

[273] And elephants and love still in my top four songs of all time.

[274] And then I saw that you were on three John Luke Ponte albums early in your career.

[275] Yeah, I love John Luke, man. I mean, you know, I started being in bands and all that kind of Hendrick Zeppelin kind of stuff.

[276] but then, you know, doing the funk thing with James Brown kind of bands, but then I really delved deeper into jazz fusion, which to me is the ultimate expression for a musician.

[277] It's such a high degree of difficulty.

[278] It's like the Olympics of music, I call it, because you've got to be able to improvise, you've got to be able to read, you've got to be able to play anything, multi -rhythm, multi -time signatures.

[279] It's the ultimate prima music.

[280] This is why all the jazz guys, including John Coltrane, who became the greatest mentor to me ever, because this guy was ridiculous, all studied all of the Indian rhythms and raga's in modes because the degree of difficulty, and so Jean -Luc was in Mahavishina Orchestra with John McLaughlin, who later had Shakti, this group that he had, El Shankar and all these guys.

[281] He was just the ultimate musician, so it was a dream of mine.

[282] to go to the highest level, go there, try and throw down with the best of them, I was very fortunate to be there.

[283] I want to plead a little defense for Jazz Fusion because I think what happens, like when I tell people I love Stanley Clark or I love Pat Mathini or I love all these folks, it's unfortunately colored by adult contemporary, right?

[284] It's got, unfortunately, you say some of the best musicianship of all time.

[285] There's this element of improv, but the production, value is off the charts.

[286] It's like laser beam focused with every other element that's ever existed in jazz.

[287] And then the product is just like, it's a laser focused.

[288] Yeah, I mean, you know, it gets a bad rap.

[289] Once again, most things in life, if you look at them, it's out of fear.

[290] These are so many notes, so many polyrhythm, so complex, I don't understand it.

[291] It makes me scared.

[292] Can I just go back to listening to some simple pop song that's two chords at best when a melody that's four notes, because this I note.

[293] So the fear of that that I don't understand it or it makes me not cool because I don't understand or it makes me scared because I don't understand if they would just embrace it.

[294] But I think part of the problem with that is I think it's also the labels and how people have treated it throughout time.

[295] Miles Davis was a rock star because he gave you the rock star vibe.

[296] he gave you the outfits, the clothing, he was cool, he was bigger than life, saying I was supermodels, and he was everything that a Bowie or Hendricks or...

[297] Jimmy Hendricks on the trumpet.

[298] I mean, he was like a sex machine.

[299] Yeah.

[300] Exactly.

[301] But he's also the guy that started bebop.

[302] He transformed it.

[303] Now, what has happened?

[304] A lot of the jazz fusion guys, though.

[305] They themselves are great musicians, but not stars.

[306] Yeah.

[307] So they're wearing the button -up suit looked like they work at the bank like an insurance guy or some shit.

[308] I don't even know what's going on.

[309] Let me put on a suit.

[310] Whoa, that's going to make you a star.

[311] Whoa, I've never seen somebody wear a suit before.

[312] So Miles transcended that.

[313] So I think the guys have done this to themselves as well.

[314] Uh -huh.

[315] So I'm going to do one more nerdy thing.

[316] And Monaco will probably cut all this out because it'll be boring to everybody.

[317] but one guy I thought was going to break through in that Miles way, that Jimmy Hendrix way, is someone you worked with whom I love him.

[318] I've had him on is Van Hunt.

[319] Oh, we love Van Hunt.

[320] We love Van, man. Atlanta, Atlanta.

[321] He had that sexual power was just in every song.

[322] He just woke your groin up in a way that some of the greats have.

[323] Van is so great.

[324] He's still great.

[325] Van, what's up if you out there, man?

[326] Hollen us, dog.

[327] But, you know, he's from Dayton, Ohio.

[328] He grew up, like you grew up in Detroit, with all of that Motown, with all of the Shuggy Otis, with all of the Curtis Mayfields, the Marvin Gays.

[329] He grew up with the greats.

[330] So when you grow up with those greats and you take it all in, like Prince took it all in.

[331] Michael took it all in.

[332] They took in James Brown.

[333] They took in Sly and the Family Stone.

[334] They took in Hendricks.

[335] They took the Issa brothers.

[336] They took it all in.

[337] So when you take all of that in, as Van did, You write from the heart?

[338] Oh, my God.

[339] And I met Van because I'd signed this girl when I was doing A &R Columbia Records named Dionne Ferris, who was in Arrested Development, speaking of Atlanta.

[340] I feel personally that me musically, a lot of contemporaries and my friends musically, those of us that are woke about all kinds of music and love everything and love music, it's our responsibility to push it and pay it forward.

[341] So Arrested Development was a forward -thinking group like Outcasts, like Van Hunt, like all these things, saying, okay, where can I take it next from my experiences?

[342] Like probably that's what you and Monica are doing on your podcast.

[343] So how can I enlighten people in a different way, take them somewhere that they haven't been, turn them on the things that they haven't experienced, what part of this can I do being a woke individual?

[344] You know what I'm saying?

[345] So, Van, yo, man, hold it down.

[346] Let's get back in the lab, Van.

[347] Let's get cooked up, man. I think we would do really good on a road trip together, you and I, Randy.

[348] Do you like brand new heavies?

[349] Dude, come on.

[350] The girlfriend's singing in there from New Orleans is my girl in Dia Davenport.

[351] What are you told me?

[352] Dude, I love these are my peeps.

[353] These are my peeps, dude.

[354] Dax, you know what we should do?

[355] Let's do a show, a road trip.

[356] You and I get on a bus.

[357] Oh, I just got one.

[358] I just bought one.

[359] Dude, let's take your bus out.

[360] I'm in it.

[361] Dude, I'm just looking for a road dog.

[362] I got you, man. I got you, Dax.

[363] Come on.

[364] man. Randy and Dax take on Memphis.

[365] I want to know a little bit more about the Randy Jackson story because it's pretty interesting and I have some theories that I'm going to hit you with and I want to see what you think.

[366] But you became a very in demand, very accomplished studio musician in the 80s.

[367] I imagine you were in L .A. doing this.

[368] Well, San Francisco, 80s and 90s because, you know, I was living up in the Bay and Marin.

[369] I went up there to start this production company with Narda Michael Walden.

[370] And it's funny because he and I are now back.

[371] I'm back in Jersey.

[372] journey, and he's in journey with me now, the reformed journey.

[373] And we started making all these records as jazz fusion guys.

[374] We met at a Chuck Mangione show at the Santa Monica Civic.

[375] And feel so good?

[376] Yeah, man, exactly.

[377] And from there, it just grew, and we started this production company trying to make urban records.

[378] And then our first big hit was Freeway of Love for the late great Aretha Franklin, which brought Aretha back.

[379] Clive Davis, we happened on.

[380] Clive said, you guys did such a good job.

[381] I'm going to give you my next big talent.

[382] So we recorded a song called How Will I Know with the Great Whitney Houston?

[383] So that started a whole cavalcade of things happening.

[384] And from there, I mean, you know, I was already doing sessions.

[385] I had to pick up band with the Santana guys and the Journey guys.

[386] You know, I had bands with the Grateful Dead guys.

[387] Listen, let me say something here.

[388] Let me put a caveat here.

[389] I was living a very different, Randy, life at the time with so many inebrients.

[390] I guess I didn't realize what was going on at the time, or even if I was really there, I have to time there.

[391] Sure, sure, sure.

[392] But as I think back on it now, I'm like, yo, that was crazy.

[393] But maybe that's why I was doing so many inebrients, so I wouldn't know.

[394] So I don't know.

[395] I got cleaning sober about 17 years ago.

[396] Oh, you did?

[397] I didn't know that.

[398] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[399] I was 16 years sober.

[400] I relapsed this year on opiates, but I'm back.

[401] So I'm with you.

[402] I've been on the journey for like 17 years myself.

[403] Yeah, people help me make a change.

[404] Uh -huh, uh -huh.

[405] What I notice about that, all that work you did is that it doesn't seem like you had a singular goal.

[406] It seems like you had a love for all these things and you kind of let them take you wherever they took you.

[407] Is that fair to say?

[408] Dude, you hit it on the head.

[409] Open to all the possibilities.

[410] Not blocking any blessings.

[411] Love music.

[412] Just want to live my life through music.

[413] And love all kinds of music.

[414] Bluegrass, country, Zidico.

[415] I grew up with Zytoe.

[416] Yeah, you're on a Charlie Daniels album.

[417] I love Charlie.

[418] Dude, Charlie, listen, I mean, the late great Clarence Gate Mouth Brown and I toured when I was in his band.

[419] We toured with the Charlie Daniels band.

[420] That's devil came down.

[421] to Georgia.

[422] We played a lot of shows.

[423] Kinky Friedman was on the bill.

[424] Talk about a wild guy.

[425] But Kinky was pushing the envelope.

[426] I mean, I'm just saying it's like, God just love music, right?

[427] You give me a great song, some great talents, some interesting.

[428] I just love music.

[429] Okay, this is the juicy part I want to know.

[430] When I look at the list, it's insane.

[431] You've listed a ton of them, but Bob Dylan's in there.

[432] This is what I immediately thought of.

[433] You've been in the studio a hundred times with people who were young and at the peak of their powers, at the peak of their popularity, I have to imagine just given what I've seen on movie sets that you saw the most atrocious behavior conceivable and you at many times were a role player.

[434] So it's like you got to be sitting there with your base ready to be perfect when they say go.

[435] But now this singer, they may be fucking in the back.

[436] for two and a half hours, and then they may come out and say, this all sucks.

[437] I don't want to do this.

[438] This isn't right.

[439] How did you have the patience for that?

[440] What was that like?

[441] Am I right about you've seen some crazy shit?

[442] You're right about it.

[443] I've seen some wild insaneness.

[444] But you know, that comes with making great art, right?

[445] Because the first thing that they say, oh, he or she must be just bad shit crazy.

[446] But the art drives you to that because you have to be free enough to take it all in.

[447] That's why they need the inebrients to get away from themselves to escape.

[448] Like I remember Eddie Van Halen saying to me once, not so many years ago, God, I've never been in the studio or recorded anything, not being high out of my mind.

[449] Yeah.

[450] Yeah.

[451] It's a different experience.

[452] Can I hit you with my theory on that?

[453] Because you would know better than anyone.

[454] To bring something completely new and novel to music, to anything, what it tells me is that you see the world differently than all of your peers and everyone else walking around on planet earth.

[455] And so that's the great gift of it.

[456] But at the same time, that uniqueness is also isolating and you don't see the world as all your peers.

[457] That's why you have this gift.

[458] And the discomfort of that, I think, is what many musicians throughout history have had to treat with substances.

[459] Yeah.

[460] And you know, you hit it on the head again.

[461] acts.

[462] The truth also really is, and I say this is the artist all the time because I manage artists, been an artist myself, you know, got production companies, all this stuff, right?

[463] You have to be willing to go into the strongest win against all the hate in the world holding a cross that is struck by lightning nude.

[464] Are you able to do that and give zero beyond zero bucks?

[465] Are you able to do that?

[466] Are you that one?

[467] Because Mick Jagger had to eat crap like hell before he made it.

[468] Jimmy Hendricks had to go through hell.

[469] All the ones that you love, Bowie, in that time, are you kidding?

[470] To go through hell.

[471] Queen, all the things that you love, they had to go through hell.

[472] Don't forget, people hated them.

[473] Madonna, people hated her.

[474] She had to be so bold.

[475] That's why I give her all the problems.

[476] in the world.

[477] Anybody that's changed history in time, James Brown, I was watching, I got a feeling last night on YouTube, him dancing and moving.

[478] You've never seen anything like that, but you can see how he greatly influenced Prince and Michael Jackson.

[479] Because the hair, the suits, the short suits, how they fit, how he moved, how he moved with the mic.

[480] Dude, in order to be a winner, you've got to go against all the hate in the world and say, look, I'm getting this.

[481] I don't care what comes before me. I don't care what they're saying.

[482] I'm winning.

[483] That takes a spirit.

[484] So I always say stars are born.

[485] They're not made.

[486] All these TV shows, including us on Idol.

[487] They're not made.

[488] They are born.

[489] You're born with that certain conviction.

[490] Like, you know, you guys out there, me, Dax and Monica, we're born with that conviction.

[491] We know where G's up in this, you know what I'm saying?

[492] You know, Dax is helping us realize it again today, you know what I'm saying?

[493] But you've got to have that thing against all odds I'm winning.

[494] Delusion.

[495] Arrogance, yeah.

[496] In my case, arrogance, yeah.

[497] Think about all the greats.

[498] You've got to have it all.

[499] Think about sports athletes that people thought they'd never make it.

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[516] Well, I have to imagine that you witness this quite often.

[517] super talented session musicians watching someone who musically is not that talented but is a star in the resentment that that would create and how you could probably take yourself out with all that resentment.

[518] Dax, you're in a band.

[519] You know this stuff too well, dude.

[520] What are you doing, Doc?

[521] What are you doing, Dax?

[522] What are you doing?

[523] Let's get on that bus, man. No, I've just been in casts.

[524] Well, yeah.

[525] So the star beats everything.

[526] The star doesn't need to be the most talented.

[527] The star needs to be the most charismatic and the brightest star with the will of God.

[528] The star needs to be that one.

[529] The star's not always the most talented.

[530] Usually, if you look throughout history, you can find that in very small doses where the star takes all the boxes.

[531] You cut to the Mariah Carey's.

[532] the Whitney Houston's, the Springsteen, the Prince, the Michael Jackson, the Bowie.

[533] You cut to those, to the Zeppelins, but it's not that many of those.

[534] So people get it confused.

[535] They don't understand the star, but remember, the star knows that they're always going to be hated on.

[536] That fuels them even more.

[537] Hate me, I love it.

[538] I'm going to kill.

[539] I'm going to get it.

[540] You know what I'm saying?

[541] use that as fuel.

[542] You know, you just kept evolving to all these different levels.

[543] Like you're a band director for the tour of Mariah.

[544] You're producing now, you know, you're writing, you're producing, you end up in A &R.

[545] So how did you avoid not thinking, oh, well, shit, these dumbasses are the ones that are to get in this?

[546] What was your own little mantra that kept you so flexible and positive and not resentful?

[547] Honestly, I think by the grace of God, I realized early on, in my life?

[548] Sort of what my role was going to be, and I just started to more fulfill it than anything else.

[549] I realized I was a team player and a band guy.

[550] We all tried to be solo stars.

[551] I realized that's not what I really wanted, and I wasn't that, but I could be a great part of a great band in a great situation.

[552] And I also realized that maybe I had a little different vision to spot the star, accept the star, try and help the star blow up, because that's what a producer's supposed to do.

[553] Yeah.

[554] I realized what that was and I just leaned into it.

[555] Not thinking I need to be at the very front, but I can be at the front with the front guys.

[556] But if you had to rank, if I said, Randy, I'm going to give you two hours before you die to do any one of the 26 jobs you do.

[557] What one are you doing?

[558] Are you going on stage with your bass?

[559] Of course.

[560] Okay.

[561] Okay, good, good, good.

[562] Taking the music to the people and seeing the people.

[563] Yeah.

[564] It's great to play those small clubs so you can look in the faces of people, see how and if the music is affecting them and what you're doing because one of my greatest times in life is being in Journey back in the day and being on stage at a festival and there's 150 ,000 people and every person in the crowd singing the lyrics to that song, I go, thank you God, I finally made it, because you took the time to learn every lyric, every nuance.

[565] This music meant that much to you.

[566] This is the reason we all do it.

[567] So to get that back from the people, not from the critics, not from the sales, not from any of that.

[568] Directly from the people means you've touched people.

[569] You've really done what it's about.

[570] You know what I mean?

[571] You've helped somebody's life.

[572] They love that lyric so much.

[573] They identify with it so much that they took the time to completely ingested and remember it.

[574] Whoa.

[575] Yeah, and you're doing virtually a synchronized dance with 150 ,000 people.

[576] Like, the symmetry of that has got to be electric.

[577] It is crazy, bro.

[578] And, like, I remember I had tears streaming down my face.

[579] And I was like, wow, this is it.

[580] This is what it's all about.

[581] So to get that rush and that high, dude, it's unbelievable.

[582] Yeah.

[583] So this is what drives, these people to do it.

[584] So when a lot of stars that are the sincere ones, because there's a lot of ones, they're not sincere too, like anything else.

[585] But to get that sincerity where they say the fans is what drives them, that's really the truth.

[586] Because you can only buy so much stuff, you can only make and spend so much money, you can only love so many different people.

[587] Yeah.

[588] But that thing that you get from that crowd, that you go, this is why I'm really here.

[589] Because, you know, what's your purpose as an artist?

[590] What's the purpose?

[591] Music is the sue, the savages, and all of us.

[592] Yeah, that moment is dead pure, and then everything that's built off of it is questionable.

[593] That moment is, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[594] Now, another interesting career turn for you or just jog in the road is becoming an ANR person at both Columbia and MCA.

[595] And I wondered, what got you into that?

[596] While I was in Journey and doing sessions up in the Bay, I had moved down to L .A. because I was doing a lot of sessions down here.

[597] I think within a three -month span, I was working on, and I'm not just blowing names out.

[598] I was working on Dylan, Springsteen, Elton John, Billy Joel, Lino Richie, and I became a session guy.

[599] You know, session guys show up at different studios, different sessions.

[600] Sometimes you do three, four day, playing on whatever.

[601] know, you make it work.

[602] And I remember, I said, you know, I'm a band guy.

[603] I'm a guy from Louisiana.

[604] I thought I wanted to do this.

[605] It's not my soul, right?

[606] I mean, I can do it and I love it and thank God.

[607] I can do it.

[608] I'm so blessed.

[609] But I said to myself, I need to preserve my love for music somehow.

[610] I've got to figure this out.

[611] Because if I keep going like this, just going from session to session, I'm going to start not to love music as much as I do.

[612] You're like the Maytag, man, coming in, fix the dryer.

[613] Right.

[614] What bass do you want me play?

[615] There's eight over there.

[616] You pick it in whatever color.

[617] I mean, whatever.

[618] So I hated A &R people before this because I thought they were the blame for the good music and the blame for the 90 % of the bad music, which is 10 % good still on the radio and it's 90 % bad.

[619] Right.

[620] Still the A &R guys make these records, sign these people.

[621] I still don't like A &R people.

[622] And I was one.

[623] Right.

[624] So buddy my was working at Columbia said, man, you should try A &R, man. Look, you know, I'm trying to get more musicians in the game.

[625] And I thought to myself, wow, real musicians, record producers, songwriters doing A &R.

[626] Wow, maybe this is the way it started back in the day with the great guys that signed all the great stuff because it sounds weird to me, but a musician that knows music, a writer -producer doing A &R.

[627] No, it makes too much sense to be in the business.

[628] Oh, no. So I decided to jump in and do it.

[629] And I realized that these A &R people, still today, people can spot talent sometimes, but they don't know how to make it go.

[630] So you need to be able to have the right phone book to hire the right people to know who to hire to make it go.

[631] So it's not just going on TikTok or YouTube or Instagram or whatever social media thing of your choice.

[632] oh, this person's talented.

[633] Do you know how to bring that to life?

[634] Whoa, that's the art. Yeah.

[635] So I learned where the community was faltering and where I could be of service and help.

[636] So that made me happy to know that I could actually help to build it and try and help it become realized.

[637] And that's how I got into it.

[638] Yeah, and so you were doing that when Idol came around, yeah?

[639] Yeah, but like everything else, I've been doing that now for 13 years or so.

[640] I was getting burnt out on the A &R thing because doing A &R, if you're doing it correctly, which I don't know how many people are doing it correctly.

[641] As I say, I don't know.

[642] I don't know what's going on now.

[643] It's a little foggy to me. I don't think things are going the right way.

[644] But anyway, you have to be able to future cast.

[645] If I sign you and Monica today, a year from now, which is early when that record comes out, I got to know if the marketplace is going to be able to bear what you, doing and what we're creating.

[646] I got to set up, marketing, promotion, publicity.

[647] I got to set it up.

[648] So this is why you see labels signing things from big Spotify numbers or any social numbers, because it's already made.

[649] So they're just putting their names on it, trying to get it higher.

[650] But they didn't have to start it from scratch.

[651] And my day, you've got to start it from scratch.

[652] Yeah, it's flipped, huh?

[653] So it's done like a 180.

[654] I don't know if that's good or bad.

[655] But that's what it is.

[656] Yeah.

[657] So when Idle came around, I'm curious, we could do six hours on Idol.

[658] We're not going to do that.

[659] We love Idol.

[660] That's where I came to know you.

[661] I just want to know your expectations versus what it was.

[662] Well, when it came to Idol, what's really interesting is I was just about done with doing A &R.

[663] I saw the curvature of what was happening.

[664] We would put acts on TV, Mary J. Blige Blanche, Blink 182 when I was at MCA, which costs a lot to put acts on TV more than people even think.

[665] and we saw not the sales spikes be in the same numbers.

[666] So I saw that changing.

[667] The Leno's, the Letterman's, were not the same.

[668] They weren't driving numbers anymore.

[669] So remember, as you study the marketplace, you see the curvature of what's happening.

[670] So the real leaders out there today are studying what's going to be next.

[671] What's after Spotify?

[672] What's after TikTok?

[673] What's coming next?

[674] So those are the real leaders, right?

[675] So I said, you know, I'm a little bored with this.

[676] I think there's got to be a different way to break acts and do music.

[677] Agent friend of mine, Jeff Frasco at CAA, said, hey, you know Simon Fuller's got this crazy show in the UK.

[678] Your boy, another ANR guy, Simon Cowles on, and it's funny.

[679] I said, would you ever entertain doing this show?

[680] I go, yeah, I don't know, music shows on TV like Corny, you know, because like, I do NR.

[681] I'm cool, man. Yeah, right, right, right.

[682] You got street cred, yeah.

[683] Yeah, don't bust my cool with these corning shows.

[684] So I said, you know what?

[685] I watched it and I was laughing because Kyle was giving it to them between the teeth like you suck this whole thing and I was laughing because I knew him so he came over and he and I sat at the four seasons up by the pool in L .A. here and talked about and we were laughing, talked about what it could do on the A &R side because he was an A &R guy in the UK and you know what I said to myself, I said listen I need to change anyway I may as well take a leap of faith and see what happens.

[686] It's either going to win or lose, but I feel like it's the right way to go.

[687] You know, that real guttural, intuitive, instinctual thing.

[688] That's why I signed on.

[689] It's one of the top five cultural phenomena in the last 20 years, right?

[690] I mean, there is a point where you guys are on, and it's like, it's approaching Super Bowl number.

[691] It's just like the biggest show on TV by such a landslide where you just like, holy smokes, this is like nothing I've ever experienced.

[692] You're right.

[693] We're getting 32 million people an episode twice a week.

[694] So, 64 million people a week.

[695] That's insane.

[696] So, but here's the thing that people don't know.

[697] It was TikTok before TikTok in an even better way.

[698] Because you saw somebody perform.

[699] They built an audience that you could then track and go to and look at the followers.

[700] So you see somebody come on.

[701] They all of a sudden, they're in the top 10 on the show.

[702] They got 7 million followers.

[703] You can market and promote to them.

[704] And they can see you week in, week out as we try and tell the audience at home what's right with them, what's wrong with them, what they need to work on.

[705] So it was the A &R process completely unfolded and what people still miss today, Dax and Monica.

[706] Kyle and I were A &R guys.

[707] We weren't just celebrities judging a show.

[708] Yeah, right.

[709] This is what we did for our living, like me doing A &R, being a musician, a producer, a manager doing A &R?

[710] No, it makes too much sense.

[711] Being on a reality show by developing talent, being an A &R guy, makes too much sense.

[712] So you see all these celebrities on these shows selling whatever, love all of them, they're all my friends, I'm happy and proud, great, they're doing an amazing job.

[713] But they're not A &R people.

[714] Say, our hope was to find somebody that would still keep us cool and represent us and say, yo, we found this undiscovered talent, Kelly Clarkson, and she's blowing up, yo.

[715] So we still know what we're doing.

[716] We're just doing A &R on TV now.

[717] We're not just doing it and nothing happens to these people.

[718] Carrie Underwood became a superstar.

[719] I mean, you know, Jennifer Hudson, I mean, you know, Fantasia, I mean, these people became superstar.

[720] You did too, though.

[721] I just want to say, like, I don't know.

[722] There's not been too many historic light switches that flipped as it did for you, right?

[723] I mean, you go from general anonymity to third.

[724] 35 million people know your full name.

[725] I mean, that's got to be crazy.

[726] When you start walking around town and you're like, oh, my goodness, well, one in eight people know my name.

[727] Yeah, dude, it was such a life change.

[728] But you know what?

[729] It happened for me later in life so I could better deal with it.

[730] Yeah, yeah.

[731] You weren't ready for that ever before.

[732] I was ready for it, but I was on 25 ,000 inebrients.

[733] That's what I'm saying.

[734] Had you been given the opportunity in the 80s, you would have fucked it up.

[735] Yeah, and I mean, look, I was on stage with Journey, and, I mean, I had a lot of fans and stuff, but it was in a different sort of cone.

[736] It wasn't this worldwide cone like that, you know what I'm saying?

[737] So, yeah, it was a trip, dude.

[738] It was a trip.

[739] But, I mean, thank God we discovered some talent, and it all worked.

[740] But, you know, I laugh at when I see these shows sometimes because as an ANR person or a manager a writer -producer, when someone would walk through the door, 40 boxes would go down by their head, and Kyle and I were just ticking them off one by one.

[741] Eyes too close together, knock, need, shy, needs a hair, makeover, needs a wig, needs their ears fixed.

[742] You know, and you just...

[743] No, no, no, but I'm saying.

[744] That's how it was.

[745] Yeah.

[746] This is what you do.

[747] Yeah.

[748] It might not be pretty, but it's...

[749] As my friend Kenny Ortega, met.

[750] People know it from high school musical and Michael Jackson, everything else.

[751] Kenny Ortega's real.

[752] And he would always say, Bob Fossey said to him, if you don't walk in here with it, you ain't got it.

[753] So when Fossie would see dancers walk in and go, leave.

[754] What do you mean I haven't danced?

[755] You ain't got it.

[756] You didn't walk in.

[757] Wow.

[758] Man, cut throat.

[759] No, but you know what I'm saying.

[760] Oh, yeah.

[761] There's a marketplace reality and you guys were in charge of figuring out who would be selling in the marketplace.

[762] And as true great A &R people, you're figuring out how to fix it, what needs to be fixed, they sing four or five notes, you go good low register, high register, shit, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[763] Who do I call for the songs?

[764] Who do I call to produce it?

[765] You've already decided in your head the whole thing.

[766] Yeah.

[767] And so all you're doing is testing theories, ticking them off saying, okay, that didn't work.

[768] Let me try this.

[769] That didn't work.

[770] Or is there ever a time someone came in and you were like, there's no way.

[771] But then you were wrong.

[772] They sang and they blew you away and then they won.

[773] Very seldom because, as I say, we were A &R guys.

[774] It's what we did for a living, for years.

[775] So sometimes you say, listen, Carrie Underwood, you're very shy.

[776] You just need to start to believe in yourself.

[777] You've got this.

[778] So you can see the turn and you're saying things to them.

[779] We would say things to them to try and get them, to give them the insight, if they could turn it on themselves.

[780] That's part of the whole thing.

[781] But, you know, you knew she had that talent.

[782] You could hear from the first couple of notes.

[783] Monag, you could sing two notes to me right now and I go, eh, yeah.

[784] Do it, Monica.

[785] Sing some notes right now, girl.

[786] I've been trying to make her.

[787] I've been trying to make her sing on here for three years.

[788] I won't even sing for Daxon.

[789] I'm definitely not seeing for Randy Jackson.

[790] And I would sing for an hour for you, and I can't sing, but I would love to.

[791] Yeah, but Dax, we're going to fix you up on the bus, man. On tour, we're Dax and Randy.

[792] There'll be one of those moments where, like, if I drop the mic yet, I keep singing, and we all realize it's on a CD.

[793] I have one other American Idol question, which is just, for me, who's pretty codependent, I don't really want to hurt anyone's feelings.

[794] It must have been so lovely to have Simon there just knowing, like, well, he'll say everything fucking shitty, and then I can come in with some support and some rebuild.

[795] Was that beautiful cover fire to have?

[796] Well, I tell you what's really funny about the show.

[797] Paula, whom I had known forever, whom I loved dearly.

[798] I didn't know Seacrest or Dunkelman who started the first season with us.

[799] But the team that formed, unbeknownst to us, was the complete perfect mixture.

[800] Yeah.

[801] Paula had to be there to make me and Simon work.

[802] We had to be there to make her work, to make Ryan work.

[803] It was such the perfect storm none of us knew.

[804] Lightning just struck.

[805] We got incredibly lucky.

[806] incredibly blessed.

[807] So I see other shows try and copy that.

[808] You can't copy it.

[809] It has to be born of itself.

[810] It has to be natural.

[811] You can't force chemistry like that.

[812] Yeah.

[813] And again, the geometry of it.

[814] Like everyone's playing their own specific note and it's coming together.

[815] You can't really manufacture that.

[816] It's funny.

[817] I'm thinking now, I learned this when I was making my vitamins.

[818] the first thing that we made this part of this multi -GI -5, I said, listen, I'm going to take it because if it ain't working for me, I don't want to sell it to nobody.

[819] Well, I'm glad you bring that up.

[820] That's my last question for you.

[821] I'm curious what prompted you to really start focusing on your health, because it started apparently, like, in the first year of American Idol.

[822] And my theory was maybe this.

[823] If you're ambitious and you're a hustler and those things are being fulfilled that you can be so focused on it that there's no space to even think about your health.

[824] Your priorities are just this hustle and you don't ever stop and think like, well, great, if I get all this shit and I can't walk upstairs or I don't feel good, what's the point?

[825] Is that fair?

[826] It's strange.

[827] Truthfully, what it was is that I was probably more depressed than I knew.

[828] I was living a sedentary lifestyle.

[829] And remember, emotions are the key to probably great life in managing them.

[830] So we eat our feelings.

[831] We exercise our feelings.

[832] Anything in excess that we're doing running, sex, eating, shopping.

[833] Anything in excess means that there's trouble brewing right there.

[834] So I developed type 2 diabetes.

[835] So I went and got gastric bypass because it helped me tremendously and helped me lose some weight.

[836] But I noticed after a couple of years, it started creeping back on because you don't just do the crazy surgery, lose the weight, and it just stays off forever.

[837] So I go, okay, I got to get it together.

[838] So all the nutritionists, all the doctors, everything people have been saying to me, I need to finally do that.

[839] What if they're right?

[840] No wonder they all say the same thing, duh.

[841] It's another one of those duh moments, like a musician doing ANR, duh, an ANR person doing a job.

[842] judging talent show.

[843] Duh.

[844] Makes too much sense.

[845] Yeah.

[846] So, you see, we got a theme going here, guys.

[847] So I said, okay, I looked at my countertop and I had 100 different bottles of vitamins.

[848] Anything you see on TV, somebody says, well, you need D3, where you need K1, where you need B1.

[849] I said to myself, I'm now confused.

[850] I'm so confused.

[851] I don't know what the hell I'm doing.

[852] And if I'm in it and this is my life and I'm trying to live the best of it, these people probably don't know either.

[853] So that's what prompted me to get on this journey to try and figure it out.

[854] I went through dietitians.

[855] In fact, the nutritionists helped me tremendously.

[856] I had a bunch of team of doctors that I've seen for this Unify Health Labs.

[857] I just went in, man. I went in to try and solve my own puzzles, take it all myself for a year.

[858] to make sure did what I said it was going to do and help me, and then said, okay, cool.

[859] Because I didn't want to be those fake -out, douchey guys or girls that are making the stuff, never using it.

[860] So that's what really got me to go in because I wanted to figure out a way, keep the weight off, eat healthy.

[861] That's why I laughed with my friend the other day when we're talking about eating in the South.

[862] The reference started.

[863] At Mardi Gras time, there's this thing called the King Cake.

[864] there's every sort of cake and pie in this cake.

[865] This is like the densest, thickest, sweetest cake for me. And you're like, we're like, bro, remember when we used to eat that king cake?

[866] We got like a gallon in the middle of this.

[867] Like, you know, what the hell were we thinking?

[868] We didn't know, you know what I mean?

[869] Yeah, you don't know.

[870] Again, the goals that we all generally have, they're not like, I want to feel the best.

[871] It's I want to get this job.

[872] I want to make this money.

[873] I want to buy this car.

[874] I want to live in this house, and none of it's really like, how am I going to feel in any one of those situations?

[875] And I'll tell you something else, just to go back to Idol for a second.

[876] And this also helped me to lead to my weight loss journey.

[877] Kyle and I would always say this.

[878] If you're going to dish it out, you've got to be willing to get it back.

[879] That's why all of these other shows, everybody's so nice to the contestants.

[880] It just wasn't your day to day.

[881] Sam, sorry.

[882] Okay.

[883] We were like raw and honest.

[884] That's also what made it great.

[885] I'm going to tell you what I think is good.

[886] I'm going to tell you what I think is bad.

[887] I ain't rolling no punches here.

[888] But we said, if you dish it out, you've got to be willing to get it back.

[889] So if I say that was terrible and come at you with some kind of thing that I think is just being truthful, you might take it as an insult.

[890] So people will come on to the show and they'll be like, well, I think what was the girl's name?

[891] Tamika, whatever her name was.

[892] She said, well, Randy, you're fat.

[893] I go, yeah, I got mirrors in my house.

[894] I know that.

[895] You know what I'm saying, though?

[896] But you know what I'm saying?

[897] That kind of guttural honesty?

[898] Yeah.

[899] Yo, you don't see that on TV today, man. You don't see that stuff.

[900] Yeah.

[901] People are afraid of that.

[902] Let me just sugarcoat everything.

[903] Yeah.

[904] So are we telling the truth?

[905] No wonder nobody from these shows of winning or doing anything with the rest of their lives.

[906] Nobody's being honest with them.

[907] Yeah.

[908] Yeah.

[909] Can I cut you a little break on the King Cake?

[910] because...

[911] You love it.

[912] Well, the more you ate of it, the more chance you were going to get the king.

[913] So you kind of had to eat as many pieces as possible.

[914] You're incentivized to finish it.

[915] Yeah, yeah.

[916] I know, but still.

[917] That's a good point, Monica.

[918] By design, you're incentivized to find that king.

[919] Get the king.

[920] Monica, you got to agree with me on something.

[921] The stores in the South, even the department stores, Publix in Atlanta, or whatever.

[922] Publics, yep.

[923] You've never seen sweets like sweets there.

[924] out here is not as sweet.

[925] Oh, for sure.

[926] It is crazy.

[927] The fried, the salt, the reason we don't trust a skinny chef in Louisiana, you don't want to see condiments on the table.

[928] It means the chef didn't taste the food.

[929] That's what we do.

[930] You're supposed to taste this damn food before you severed to me, knowing it's salty enough, hot enough.

[931] If you didn't do that, this is terrible food.

[932] In fact, I wouldn't trust a restaurant where there was any food left.

[933] The chef should have eaten it all because it was so damn good.

[934] Every time you're going minutes ago, no, he ate it all again.

[935] I go, fuck, I'm going to eat here once.

[936] I bet it's incredible.

[937] What I'm saying, man. Not this stuff out here in L .A. where people, you want no salt, no butter, no onions.

[938] Well, everyone's leaving with to -go bags because no one could get through it.

[939] Yeah.

[940] I don't see any to -go bags in the South.

[941] No. Okay, so Randy, name that tune, is out January 6, 9 p .m. on Fox.

[942] We get to see you play, which is very exciting.

[943] Yes.

[944] And we get to see Jane interact with everyone.

[945] She's phenomenal.

[946] We're huge fans.

[947] Jane is amazing.

[948] I think this is going to be awesome for you for Fox, and I'm so excited to see it.

[949] So I hope everyone checks it out January 6th on Fox at 9 p .m. Well, listen, Dax.

[950] Yeah.

[951] You've got to promise me one thing.

[952] I can do it.

[953] If we ever do a celebrity version of name that tune, you got to come on and play, dog.

[954] Come on, man. Oh, absolutely.

[955] I give myself a four on the drums.

[956] I'm a four out of ten, so I can play.

[957] I can play.

[958] I love that.

[959] In fact, I know one I could do that would trigger someone.

[960] Um -ch, um -ch, um -ch, um -ch, um.

[961] It's, we're not going to take it.

[962] That drum beat is so specific by Twisted Sister.

[963] Yeah.

[964] I think if I hit people with just a few of that, we could get them there.

[965] What is, um, chab, boom, boom, boom, ch.

[966] We're not gonna take it.

[967] It's no, we're not going to take it.

[968] You think you can do something with that auto tune?

[969] Now it's Monica.

[970] Monica, start the bus.

[971] Get it idle and get everything up to temperature.

[972] Monica's driving and people are jumping out of the way.

[973] It could be exciting.

[974] Randy, you've always been so sweet when I've bumped into you in real life.

[975] You walk the talk and we thank you so much for being on.

[976] I hope everyone watch his name that tune.

[977] Thanks, brother.

[978] All right.

[979] We'll see you.

[980] I'll bump into you.

[981] and then we'll do something that combines my automotive knowledge and your A &R knowledge and we'll blow the lid off.

[982] Dude, let's go, Dax.

[983] Come on, man. I appreciate you guys.

[984] Thank you.

[985] All right.

[986] Be well.

[987] Happy New Year.

[988] Peace, guys.

[989] Stay tuned for more armchair expert, if you dare.

[990] And now my favorite part of the show, the fact check with my soulmate Monica Padman.

[991] I know you hate when I ask you who's attractive and stuff.

[992] for good reason, but I don't think you would be hesitant to say cutest guest for you.

[993] I love Randy.

[994] You do.

[995] It was so fun watching you during the interview.

[996] You just had a glee.

[997] He's so shiny and likable.

[998] Positive.

[999] Positive.

[1000] Just lovely energy.

[1001] I could not believe it.

[1002] A plus on the energy for Randy.

[1003] God, I really liked him.

[1004] Should we tell people really quick that I stupidly, when the first time I saw the email that was like, hey, we're adding Randy Jackson to the schedule.

[1005] For some reason in my head, I had filed that as we were interviewing Alan Jackson.

[1006] Country star.

[1007] Yeah, and so for like a week and a half, I was like, wait on yonder on the chat of hoochie, you get tired than a hoochie coochie.

[1008] We laid rubber on the Georgia Asheville.

[1009] Got a little crazy, but we never got caught.

[1010] And I was really prepared to talk to him about the hooch.

[1011] Yeah.

[1012] The hoocher from your home state.

[1013] My home state, ding, ding, ding.

[1014] What a week for my home state.

[1015] Big week for your home state.

[1016] Came through.

[1017] Came through down, rolled right down the, no, rolled right down the hooch.

[1018] That's right.

[1019] Right down the hoochie.

[1020] Anyways, it wasn't Allen.

[1021] You know, my elementary school is called Chad Hucci Elementary.

[1022] Oh, it is?

[1023] Yeah.

[1024] Well, you know, I love that song.

[1025] But I was glad it was Randy.

[1026] Yeah.

[1027] Well, I like both.

[1028] And I was, it's not like I was disappointed it was Randy.

[1029] It just, what a mix up for me. When I looked at the schedule like two days before, I'm like, oh, I'm already set for this interview way down yonder but that would have been the whole interview i'm yeah seems like we dodged a bullet there i would have sang it to him six or seven times you would have poked your eyes out with a needle speaking of singing randy wanted me to sing and i didn't do it you could be a star right now and you're not i have some regrets i do some regrets you should yeah i regret that there hasn't been to my knowledge there hasn't been an indian american pop star this you could like blaze a whole new trail oh my god you know what that is definitely never a job i wanted pop star yeah like you know like everyone like wants to be like us uh pop star rock star and never for me brittney spears yeah never for me me neither i don't know if it's that i never wanted to or i just knew immediately that wasn't a job for me so i never even entertained the fantasy like i can't sing so i'm but in a band though well i played drums in a band but it was just about fucking with my buddies the band was named cowbell was Aaron in it yeah of course he played the cowbell because he can't play an instrument oh my god I mean he since learned to play the drums but at that time he could only play the cowbell who sang uh I think Aaron Tyrell wow yeah it was a terrible band but we had fun we played um a Metallica cover for whom the bell tolls but we changed it to for whom the cowbell Oh, my God.

[1030] We did one show.

[1031] It was really fun.

[1032] It was all the, or all the songs about cowbell?

[1033] Yeah, we changed all of them to cowbell.

[1034] Like, ring my cowbell?

[1035] Not that one because that, that's a disco song, right?

[1036] Yeah, but you could have made a year.

[1037] You can ring my cow.

[1038] Well, also, this was before the cowbell sketch, I want to be very clear.

[1039] What's that?

[1040] The famous cowbell sketch from Will Farrell on Saturday Night Live.

[1041] You know what this song needs more cowbell?

[1042] And it's a very famous sketch.

[1043] You would know what if you saw it.

[1044] And every time he hits a cowbell, his belly comes out of the bottom of his shirt more and more.

[1045] Christopher Walken is the producer and he keeps coming in.

[1046] He's like, you know what this song needs more cowbell?

[1047] And then they bring them back out.

[1048] And then the whole song is just Cowbell.

[1049] It's one of the best sketches of all time.

[1050] But our band Cowbell predated that sketch.

[1051] Do you think you influenced it?

[1052] Oh, and can I tell you what?

[1053] But we had merch.

[1054] You did?

[1055] It was a pentagram with Elsie the cow's face in the pentagram.

[1056] So it looked like Slayer, but with Elsie the cow.

[1057] Oh, my goodness.

[1058] Really good merch.

[1059] Good merch.

[1060] Aaron Tyrell all the way.

[1061] He was a genius at that stuff.

[1062] Aaron Tyrell is not best friend Aaron Weekly.

[1063] No, and in fact, I don't know what I've said it on here.

[1064] But the group primarily was Aaron Weekly, Aaron GoWatch, and Aaron Tyrell.

[1065] So obviously everyone there is just Weekly Tyrell Go Watch.

[1066] one that gets called Aaron back in Michigan.

[1067] I mean, I'm kind of surprised the name of the band wasn't just Aaron.

[1068] Aaron's in a D?

[1069] Just Aaron.

[1070] But I was in a...

[1071] I know, but you'd have to sacrifice...

[1072] Oh, for the greater good of Arons?

[1073] Fuck them.

[1074] I was already on number three to one.

[1075] You should feel bad for me. The band should be called the Daxes.

[1076] Oh, God.

[1077] The Dax bells.

[1078] Oh, God.

[1079] Oh, gosh.

[1080] Too bad rage.

[1081] Do you know who this impersonation is?

[1082] Oh, gosh.

[1083] Oh, Gors.

[1084] Smookey.

[1085] Snoopy.

[1086] Goofy.

[1087] Oh.

[1088] He says gorsh instead of gosh.

[1089] That's good.

[1090] That does sound like him.

[1091] Oh, gorse.

[1092] Ding, ding, ding.

[1093] This is kind of like name that tune.

[1094] But in this case, it's impressions.

[1095] Yeah, name that actor or character.

[1096] Name that character.

[1097] Do another.

[1098] Okay, close your eyes.

[1099] How's an asshole like mom getting such a great kitchen?

[1100] Okay, you have to do different ones.

[1101] I've been doing one that you haven't heard.

[1102] Oh, okay.

[1103] Okay.

[1104] So I went down to the park and cleaned it up Navy SEAL style.

[1105] When I won the election, I proceeded to the hotel where I drank four bottles of Dom Parignon.

[1106] Not Trump.

[1107] No. Kristen's dad?

[1108] No. Jesse Ventura.

[1109] Oh, I'm not.

[1110] Yeah.

[1111] You're not well -versed in Jesse Ventura.

[1112] I'm not good at this.

[1113] Just like I would be very bad at named that tune.

[1114] Can we try one more just to see you?

[1115] Okay.

[1116] I'll do one that's like generic.

[1117] that I don't do well, but that I think you would get.

[1118] Okay.

[1119] Let me think who that would be.

[1120] What was it saying?

[1121] My hair, my hair.

[1122] Elvis?

[1123] No. Okay.

[1124] I got moves.

[1125] They're electrifying.

[1126] Yeah.

[1127] You had it?

[1128] Travolta.

[1129] My hair, my hair.

[1130] The Greece guy.

[1131] It was like a 40 % good impersonation, but he's so distinct that you can.

[1132] get it yeah and the words you picked were helpful yeah were dialogue cues yeah so if you didn't get the impression you'd get it from the dialogue can you do a female one yes okay okay Drew Barrymore is that who was oh I could do that one can here wait what was the name of the whale no biscuit the whale shit I if I can remember the name of the whale from the movie Kristen did with her oh no don't Go over there.

[1133] I'm going to do another one.

[1134] It's going to be hard, though, to not give it away with the words she uses.

[1135] Okay.

[1136] I can see.

[1137] That's bad.

[1138] Oh, Sarah Palin.

[1139] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1140] Oh, I can do Audrey Heprin.

[1141] Please support the animal shelter.

[1142] Don't stop.

[1143] That's how she sounded.

[1144] In those commercials, and then stand -up comedians would say she sounded like a car starting.

[1145] Wait, Audrey Hepburn?

[1146] Or Catherine, whoever did the SPCC commercials.

[1147] I never heard that.

[1148] There's no way Audrey Hepburn sounded like that.

[1149] She was like the most elegant woman alive.

[1150] Let's see if I can.

[1151] Audrey Hepburn dog commercials.

[1152] Please support.

[1153] I'm going to do some further research.

[1154] I don't want to eat up all over time.

[1155] I don't think it's her.

[1156] Let me do Catherine Heparin.

[1157] Catherine Heparin commercials.

[1158] 13 million kids are dying year in and year out.

[1159] 35 ,000 a day.

[1160] That's terrifying.

[1161] Okay.

[1162] It's up to each of us to reach them for hunger and disease kills one more.

[1163] No, yours is bad and offensive.

[1164] Smithers Here's this bad and offensive I'm not saying anything mean about her I'm just saying this is the facts This is what her voice sounds like I have no judgment on it It's a great voice obviously he was in commercials Oh wow All right Okay By the way I think that was a that was an easy example Like it got worse Catherine Haffron commercials Oh God okay Enough Okay, okay.

[1165] I just, I think there's one that really isolates what I was.

[1166] It's not true.

[1167] No, I found it fun.

[1168] I find everything fun.

[1169] When you open the door and go out and they say, good morning, Seth, good morning.

[1170] Oh, God.

[1171] Good morning, Ms. I have to really card my face because I got to put my teeth out when I do.

[1172] Good morning, Mrs. Evers.

[1173] You got to admit.

[1174] And I wasn't off on the impersonation.

[1175] You are.

[1176] I mean, it's extreme.

[1177] Well, all impersonations are.

[1178] Okay, you're right.

[1179] Sorry, Mrs. Hepburn.

[1180] Hepburn.

[1181] Yeah, you're saying.

[1182] I want to put the R before.

[1183] Hepburn.

[1184] Yeah, you do want to put it before.

[1185] Hepburn.

[1186] That's a. Hepburn.

[1187] Yeah, Hepburn.

[1188] It's a rough last name, too.

[1189] But, boy, they overcame it.

[1190] They were both such beauties.

[1191] Beauties.

[1192] Beautiful voices, too.

[1193] What?

[1194] You're next.

[1195] Okay.

[1196] Okay.

[1197] Okay.

[1198] Remember when I told you the part that's hard is when I won't stop.

[1199] Yeah.

[1200] You want me to do another one?

[1201] No. No, a different one.

[1202] Okay, fine.

[1203] One more.

[1204] Okay.

[1205] Um, not gonna do.

[1206] Ryan Hansen as David Spade as George Bush.

[1207] Not David Spade is Dana Carvey.

[1208] Ryan Hansen is David Carvey as George Bush Sr. Oh, things are off the rails.

[1209] Okay.

[1210] Okay, so Randall.

[1211] Oh, that's me. Randall, that's your mental name in case people don't know.

[1212] Randall Shepard.

[1213] I would have a different career, don't you think, if I was Randall Shepard?

[1214] I'd be more in, like, Westerns and stuff.

[1215] Yeah.

[1216] Put your hands together for Randall Shepard, and I ride in on a horse.

[1217] I do see that.

[1218] Howdy, ladies and gentlemen?

[1219] Okay, all right.

[1220] But you would be putting that on because you're not a cowboy.

[1221] So then it becomes like you're kind of a milly -vanilly, like you're living a fake life.

[1222] But then, no. where it's real anymore exactly like i've i've lived up to the name dax like you name me dax so i had to act like this if you name me randall i probably would have been into roping this is why naming is so scary it is if you name your kid adolph expect the worst probably don't name them well clearly but expect the worst yeah that's what's always rough in those coors commercials like they try to give you the history of coors and it's like our founding father william adolf core and you're like oh leave out the eight oh yeah it's hard to get past it was hard to get past um barraq's middle name hussein that's why because of um fucking saddam hussein yeah that was rough one of the like world bad guys had his middle name didn't bother me i mean he overcame it which is impressive again just like katherine and ah and yeah they all have this in abri haprim heparum okay name that tune he said 50s and 60s Name that tune Oh, the original show Mm -hmm 1952 There's been so many iterations of it I bet It's a great concept It was on radio at first Oh, I believe that Yeah My mother was one years old When that came out 1952 December She was one's years old In three months Wow When are she remembers Let's ask Let's get her on the phone Rall Isn't it so weird To think of your mom as a ones years old it is yeah yeah it's very to think of your parents as babies i know we're watching this show i hate susy and the lead has a child you know and it did make me think like oh all my peers is junior high students they're just individual people and then they become moms but nothing magical happens they're just the kid still yeah i mean i know that's a dumb observation but i was thinking about it a lot watching it's like your cool friend who's a parent who's a parent is just still the cool friend.

[1223] But then now they have this other role that's supposed to be done so well.

[1224] Yeah.

[1225] I guess what I'm saying is there's no such thing as a mom or a dad.

[1226] Is that point?

[1227] Do you understand what I'm saying?

[1228] Yeah.

[1229] Like you don't go change your identity because you have a kid.

[1230] People are people, but we look at moms and dads as if they're supposed to be this perfect thing.

[1231] We would never think our friends should be perfect.

[1232] Right, right, right, right.

[1233] You mean if you're a kid?

[1234] Yeah, like the kind of.

[1235] concept of mom and dad.

[1236] Yes, this is true.

[1237] Are not human concepts.

[1238] They're like fairy tale concepts.

[1239] Yeah, they're supposed to be perfect.

[1240] And your dad's just a dude who paled around with some people and then he had kids.

[1241] Same guy.

[1242] My dad?

[1243] Yeah, Ashok.

[1244] He didn't.

[1245] He's just always been a dad.

[1246] Ashok, Randall, Padman.

[1247] Okay.

[1248] You said that Spin the Wheel Wheel was really expensive.

[1249] Do you know how expensive it was?

[1250] I don't.

[1251] Did you ask Andrew Glassman?

[1252] I don't know him.

[1253] I don't know.

[1254] I want it to, but I don't know him.

[1255] You should host a game show for him.

[1256] I would love to.

[1257] Oh, you'd be great at it.

[1258] I think I would get too into it.

[1259] That's the dream.

[1260] Oh.

[1261] They want you to get too into it.

[1262] Really?

[1263] Yeah.

[1264] And you'd be a boss because you're so bossy.

[1265] Yeah.

[1266] And you get to shove everyone around.

[1267] Go over here now.

[1268] No, you're supposed to be doing this.

[1269] Spin that thing, you know?

[1270] Oh, I would love to tell people to spin that thing.

[1271] Mm -hmm.

[1272] Okay, so TBD on how expensive the wheel is.

[1273] Well, can you text him right now?

[1274] Sure.

[1275] I wonder if he wants that info out there, but yeah, I'll ask him.

[1276] I'll dictate live so you know the exact question.

[1277] I love Andrew Glassman.

[1278] He is such a sweet.

[1279] Maybe the best boss I ever had.

[1280] Hi, sweet friend, comma, feel free to not give me this information, comma, but I'm in the middle of a fact check.

[1281] And I told Randy Jackson that our wheel cost a fortune, comma, pun intended, period.

[1282] Am I allowed to know how much that fucker cost to construct, question mark?

[1283] I hope he's a quick response.

[1284] He will be.

[1285] Okay, well, we'll keep going while we wait to hear.

[1286] Yeah, please hold while I connect that call.

[1287] But in the meantime, oh, I got another one I can do for you.

[1288] If you want to close your eyes.

[1289] Okay.

[1290] I knew this farm, Dave.

[1291] He had a pig.

[1292] He used to go over to this guy's house, and sometimes he'd be playing with the pig.

[1293] And, well, Dave.

[1294] Jay Leno.

[1295] It does sound a lot like Jay Leno.

[1296] Leno.

[1297] It's Norman McDonald.

[1298] I sometimes do a better.

[1299] Oh, I sometimes do a better Norm McDonald.

[1300] That wasn't very good.

[1301] All right.

[1302] Now, close your eyes.

[1303] Okay.

[1304] Welcome to the Tonight Show.

[1305] Um, um, come look at my cars.

[1306] I got a lot of cars.

[1307] Okay.

[1308] Say Mike Tyson.

[1309] Oh, gosh.

[1310] No. I'm putting an end to this.

[1311] Okay.

[1312] I've got a response from Andrew Glassman.

[1313] By the team that built the London an eye it was more than a million dollars wow wow wow wow it was huge it was um four or five stories there was only two sound stages in all of la that could accommodate this wheel and luckily it was that my favorite one yeah the closest one to your house yeah well one of so you said the idol was one of the top five cultural phenomenons so i just thought it would be interesting to see what thought were the top pop culture moments of the past decades since that were in a new decade.

[1314] Okay.

[1315] In 2010, Lady Gaga wears a dress made of meat at the MTV Video Music Awards.

[1316] Very memorable.

[1317] 2010 to 2019 Beyonce becomes Beyonce.

[1318] That's interesting.

[1319] Yeah.

[1320] This feels like a very arbitrary list, but please continue.

[1321] It's from Forbes.

[1322] Oh, okay.

[1323] 2011, Game of Thrones premieres on HBO.

[1324] I'd go with that.

[1325] Okay.

[1326] I can get behind it.

[1327] Oh, this one for sure.

[1328] 2011, Prince William and Kate Middleton get married.

[1329] Royals, the crown.

[1330] Ding, ding, ding.

[1331] 2011, 50 Shades of Grey is released.

[1332] That was a big pop culture.

[1333] Oh, 2011 Harry Potter ends.

[1334] You haven't been happy since, have you?

[1335] No. 10 years.

[1336] Oh, this 2012 girls premieres on H -N -H -N.

[1337] B .O. Okay.

[1338] 2013, Netflix releases House of Cards.

[1339] Uh -oh.

[1340] 2013 Prince George is born.

[1341] No. I mean, these aren't real.

[1342] 2013, Miley Cyrus twerkes on stage with Robin Thick at the 2013 MTV Music Awards.

[1343] That was.

[1344] There was memorable.

[1345] Video music awards.

[1346] Oh, 2014, Ellen DeGeneres takes an epic Oscar selfie.

[1347] Oh, right.

[1348] I remember that.

[1349] That was a big deal.

[1350] I was, are you in it?

[1351] I think I was there.

[1352] Is Cooper, Cooper, is in it?

[1353] Yeah, I was there.

[1354] We were, that's the night that Brad Pitt told me he liked hit and run.

[1355] Brad is in this picture.

[1356] It has Bradley Cooper, Jennifer Lawrence, Merrill Streep, Julia Roberts, Brad Pitt, Kevin Spacey.

[1357] Uh -oh.

[1358] Oopsies.

[1359] And some people I can't.

[1360] Harvey Weinstein.

[1361] I don't think so.

[1362] But that's definitely in here.

[1363] Although I guess it wouldn't be pop culture, but 2014 serial debuts as a podcast.

[1364] Oh, that's how our friendship really to hold.

[1365] 2014, Kim Kardashian appears on the cover of paper.

[1366] Do you remember this?

[1367] Oh, sure.

[1368] It does look familiar.

[1369] Really oiled up.

[1370] Oh, 2015, Hamilton opens on Broadway.

[1371] Oh, sure.

[1372] That's a good one.

[1373] 2015, Bruce Jenner comes out as Caitlin Jenner on the cover of Vanity Fair.

[1374] Okay.

[1375] Ding, ding.

[1376] 2016 Leonardo DiCaprio wins an Oscar okay that's a little I mean cool he deserves it but right but is that whatever I don't 2017 Donald Trump becomes a president of the United States yeah he did I remember that 2017 La La Land slash Moonlight Oscar mishap no that was kind of memorable in I mean that's that's that doesn't belong on there yeah 2017 Harvey Weinstein is accused of sexual abuse by multiple women.

[1377] There we go.

[1378] There it is.

[1379] There it is.

[1380] 2018, Prince Harry and Megan Markle get married, the crown royals, ding, ding, ding.

[1381] Is that the fourth thing about the royal family on this list?

[1382] 2018, Kim Kardashian and Kanye West visit the White House separately.

[1383] Okay, so that's two.

[1384] They have two.

[1385] Now there's a race between the royals and Kardashian.

[1386] Ooh.

[1387] No, well, will we include Caitlin Jenner?

[1388] Oh, yeah.

[1389] They're tied.

[1390] Tide.

[1391] We got a two -way tie.

[1392] The Kardashian family versus the royal family.

[1393] Yes, right.

[1394] 2019 college admission scandal.

[1395] Oh, that was hot.

[1396] That was hot.

[1397] Ew.

[1398] 2010 to 2019 celebrity deaths?

[1399] Hmm.

[1400] Let's skip that.

[1401] Am I on there?

[1402] Oh, that's all.

[1403] I guess the crown and the crown are tied.

[1404] I guess so.

[1405] There's something kind of poetic about that.

[1406] The Kardashians are our royals in some.

[1407] way.

[1408] Yeah, I'm not even going to expound on it, the similarities, but I could.

[1409] Yeah.

[1410] But I understand from Kristen that Kim is a really nice person who is sincerely dedicated to prison reform and exonerating wrongly convicted criminals.

[1411] Yes.

[1412] And I think Kristen wanted to implore her to help on something, and I guess she got back to her in like two seconds and really helped.

[1413] So, yeah, so I got no, I can't really say anything.

[1414] No. By the way, obviously, I love the Royals.

[1415] I love the Crown.

[1416] I'm not, I'm not, I'm making a bad parallel, but I am making one that we've heightened people.

[1417] Yeah.

[1418] Mm -hmm.

[1419] Mm -hmm.

[1420] Yeah, Kim Kardashian on Letterman's show is a really good interview.

[1421] I got to watch that.

[1422] I really enjoyed it.

[1423] Oh, see you in.

[1424] How long is it?

[1425] I'll be right back.

[1426] An hour.

[1427] Okay.

[1428] Okay, Dax is back.

[1429] Oh, we're back.

[1430] That was great.

[1431] Great rack.

[1432] Thank you.

[1433] Thank you.

[1434] That's all.

[1435] Well, that was great.

[1436] We learned a lot.

[1437] We learned a lot.

[1438] And I don't agree with much of what we learned.

[1439] Surprise.

[1440] Ding, ding, ding.

[1441] All right.

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