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#1799 - Yannis Pappas

#1799 - Yannis Pappas

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[0] Joe Rogan podcast, checking out.

[1] The Joe Rogan Experience.

[2] Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

[3] Hello, Joe Rogan.

[4] When you moving to Texas?

[5] As soon as I can.

[6] Are you thinking about it?

[7] Absolutely.

[8] Really?

[9] I'm coming down.

[10] Yeah, I'll be here.

[11] That club's opening.

[12] I love Texas.

[13] I love Terry's barbecue.

[14] How fun was last night?

[15] Last night was a lot of fun at the Vulcan.

[16] Those shows are fucking great.

[17] We're doing those shows every week.

[18] Yeah.

[19] It's just an amazing place where you can fuck around and work out and write new shit and practice in front of live audiences.

[20] Yeah, they were an incredible audience, incredible show.

[21] It was nice.

[22] Green room's nice.

[23] Private bathroom.

[24] Push a coat in.

[25] That's nice.

[26] It's a win, win.

[27] Yeah, it's fun, man. Yeah.

[28] It's a unique situation to be at a, you know, like a comedy scene.

[29] There was always a comedy scene here, but now it's like, because of COVID, it got this new boost.

[30] And, you know, so many guys moved here, and now it's flour.

[31] And now it's like, it's different.

[32] It's got a different feel to it.

[33] Yeah, and it's not just comics, it's people.

[34] I mean, this place is growing and growing and growing.

[35] Every time I come here, it's like, it's like watching somebody who started working out and, like, you haven't seen him in a while.

[36] And you're like, wow, man, you're looking good.

[37] You're looking good.

[38] You shed a few pounds, you know?

[39] And by that, I mean, like, shed a few homeless people on the street.

[40] Like, they're less and less.

[41] That's the big move.

[42] We actually talked about that yesterday with Michael Schellenberger, a guy who's running for governor of California and the mayor Stephen Adler of Austin he had a plan and he fucking pulled it off he was like if I can fix this homeless problem if I can't fix this homeless problem by the time I leave office he goes it'll be a big failure he goes but I think I can do it it goes it's only a couple thousand people we think we can provide them housing we think we think we can get them help give them shelter you're always going to have some people that just want to live in the woods and a tent you're going to have some schizophrenics who think the government's kind of chip in their brain.

[43] It's always crazy people.

[44] But he managed to get all those tents off of Caesar Chavez, off of those main streets, off of downtown, and it's way better now.

[45] Way better.

[46] I used to work at a formerly homeless SRO.

[47] That's really like a, like other states should adopt that.

[48] New York City, they have this thing.

[49] It's called an SRO where it's like Section 8 housing so the government pays most of it, tries to employ them.

[50] There's caseworkers there.

[51] That's what I did.

[52] And that's great.

[53] It houses the homeless.

[54] They usually take like old hotels or sometimes I think they build buildings specifically for that.

[55] And then they live like they have their own room, a shared bathroom, and caseworkers on there.

[56] And, you know, it was fun.

[57] Did you do that fresh out of college?

[58] I did that.

[59] I did 9 -11 disasterally fresh out of college from 2002 to 2005.

[60] So that was like an ad hoc agency, Lutheran Social Services.

[61] So that was like a, that was my first foray in a social.

[62] work.

[63] And then I worked at an SRO for two years.

[64] So when you say disaster relief, like what does that entail?

[65] It was helping people who lost their livelihood, lost family members at 9 -11.

[66] You know, they were affected by it in some way.

[67] They were in the blast zone, the disaster zone.

[68] They had to be relocated.

[69] They lost their jobs.

[70] So we would like petition to FEMA to get them.

[71] It was called the Mortgage Rental Assistance Program.

[72] So we'd take their cases there.

[73] there was this combined charity called the Unmet Needs Table where, like, you would take a client and present the case, they lost this income or, you know, they lost the family members, so they lost this for assistance.

[74] So we were like their representative, and you would take their case.

[75] Their case would be approved for the Unmet Needs Table, and it was a bunch of charities that came together and they would sit.

[76] It would be like Catholic charities, Lutheran Social Service, and, you know, a bunch of charities, and they would dole out money and assistance.

[77] to people who were affected.

[78] There was a lot of people, particularly first responders, that were deeply affected by 9 -11 because of all the chemicals and the residue and the shit that was in the air because of the explosions and the collapsing of the buildings.

[79] Yeah.

[80] Did they ever provide them relief?

[81] I know John Stewart was actively campaigning for that.

[82] Remember, he was making...

[83] Which is crazy that that's an issue.

[84] 20 fucking years later that they're still talking about that.

[85] Yeah, I don't know.

[86] I don't know.

[87] I mean, when I got so burnt out from all that, I kind of just switched off after I was done.

[88] And what I was doing was, like, so close to the event.

[89] It was, like, right after.

[90] It was like, you know, I started, was the beginning of 2002.

[91] So it was mostly just, like, emergency assistance.

[92] Like, people were all, I remember my first day on the job, like, I'd never done social work.

[93] Whatever, the first, you know, I was 22, three or something.

[94] And first day on the job is, dude, he was a pastry chef at Windows on the World.

[95] And I met him.

[96] It was a new client.

[97] I met him in this little, like, cubby, you know, meeting room.

[98] And he started crying to me. You know, he was off that day in the survivor guilt.

[99] And, like, he lost all his friends.

[100] And I was just sitting there as a kid going, like, all right, man, you need a coffee or something?

[101] I didn't know what to do.

[102] Like, I was just not good at it yet.

[103] How old me?

[104] 23, something, 22, 23, yeah.

[105] Jesus.

[106] Yeah.

[107] And then, dude, when you do social work, they call it countertransference, I think, is the official term for it.

[108] We're like, if you're an empathetic person, like you start taking it home with you.

[109] Like you start, and that started happening to me. Like I would, because these people were like getting evicted, you know, they lost their job, but they worked at the Millennium Hotel, I think it was called, which was right across the street.

[110] I had a lot of clients that worked there.

[111] And then you go home and you start worrying about like, dude, I got to get this money from the M &E table.

[112] I got to get them the MRA program or else they're going to get evicted.

[113] You start, like, taking it on.

[114] And that's when I started having panic attacks.

[115] And that was a, you know, it was an interesting time.

[116] Well, I can only imagine.

[117] Of course you would take it.

[118] on or you would become numb if you did it too often and this is uh that's the dilemma the police officers face right i mean if you're dealing with domestic violence case after domestic violence case after homicide after murder suicide after you know over and over and over you're fucking seeing this shit every day all day like how do you not take some of it home with you you do i guess i mean if you unless you're a psychopath which is a real advantage in life it's a advantage of your CEO apparently.

[119] They say that's like one of the biggest character traits for successful CEOs.

[120] Yeah.

[121] Comics.

[122] Comics?

[123] Psychopaths?

[124] You think so?

[125] I mean, yeah, some.

[126] Sociopaths, psychopaths, narcissists.

[127] But don't you think they have to be good?

[128] Like, to be a good comic, you have to resonate with people in some way.

[129] You have to be at least somewhat compassion.

[130] All the good guys that we know, the guys who are good, none of them are sociopaths or psychopaths.

[131] Or if they are they really good at it.

[132] I mean, you know, if you think about it, we share our skill sets very similar to dictators you know we get up there we move crowds you know we get people to believe yeah i mean that kid used to crush i mean say what you want he was a headliner he was a fucking headliner yeah you try going up after him imagine having to go on after hitler yeah especially in germany yeah that's you know in his own town yeah he came up in tough rooms those those those beer those beer rooms he came up in bars yeah yeah it came up like a new york Yeah.

[133] Oh my god.

[134] He did.

[135] And he was on coke.

[136] Yeah, he was on all types of stuff.

[137] Coked up.

[138] They shot him full of testosterone and cocaine.

[139] Yeah.

[140] Sent him up there.

[141] I don't even, I wish I could speak German to really understand the impact of his words to get it, you know, from the actual language itself.

[142] Because if a guy was up there crushing like that in English, it would be very disturbing.

[143] Yeah.

[144] Especially if you knew that this guy was a totalitarian dictator who was going to leave.

[145] his people to a fucking disastrous war a war based around race and creating a master race I mean that's a fucking crazy dystopian terrifying thing that happened 80 years ago it's wild to think wild it's so recent man it's very recent and it really hits home with this Putin shit because now you know when you're seeing Putin invade Ukraine you're going oh this can happen again yeah this is a thing yeah this is a thing that people do occasionally yeah people people need to realize dictators they have a modus operandi they have a personality type they don't change right there's not like Putin's not like I'm good you know no you take Ukraine take Russia it's not like he said it many times he's like I want more I want the former glory of the USSR the worst thing that ever happened was the breakup of this thing and you know there's a perspective to be had that maybe what's preventing him from that is the NATO alliance I know it's going to get a lot of hate people saying like people love Putin now apparently do they really And there's a lot of people who are like, oh, yeah, we're provoking, we're provoking him by being on the border.

[146] It's like there's a bunch of countries that are on the border already.

[147] And it's like those countries join because they're scared of Russia.

[148] Russia has expanded.

[149] Ask Finnish people why they're, you know, which do they prefer the United States.

[150] You know, we're still the good guy here.

[151] Yeah.

[152] We're still the good guy.

[153] We are.

[154] The citizens.

[155] Our ideology is.

[156] But when you think about the stuff that our government is doing, I mean, how about, you know, don't get Dave Smith started about the war in Yemen.

[157] And you'll find out deep details about the illegal war in Yemen and the bombings and just how many people we fucking kill with drones.

[158] There was a chart that showed, and this is not, you know, an anti -American statement.

[159] But it's just like there's a thing about military.

[160] There's a thing about war and strategy.

[161] And this whole NATO thing and mixed with Putin, you know, the thing that they were worried about is the literal thing that he's doing.

[162] He's invading Ukraine and blowing up fucking apartment buildings and shooting missiles into cities and taking, over cities like it's kind of like I told you so it's like they were worried about him expanding his range of power and so they wanted to you know there's talk about them wanting to join NATO and wanting to join the EU and people like well that's provoking them but but isn't this like what they were worried about right like can you see him move in is it provoking him like look what he's doing he's doing exactly what we're fucking terrified of a guy like him doing yeah he knows we're not can invade because of the mutually assured destruction and also nobody ever invades Russia and gets out alive.

[163] Dude, I used to think it was mutually assured destruction until I talked to Mike Baker, who's a former CIA operative, and I use the word former in quotes, he told me that they have hypersonic weapons now.

[164] And he goes, this whole idea of mutually assured destruction was based on the concept that if we got word that Russia had launched its missiles, we would also launch our missiles.

[165] We had like 20 minutes to do so.

[166] And then we would, everybody get blown up.

[167] He goes, no. He goes, now these hypersonic missiles.

[168] Not only they move faster in the speed of sound, but you can't detect where they're going because they can change course in midair.

[169] So you're shooting it towards Chicago and it just hooks a left turn and lands in New York City.

[170] You have no idea where it's going or how to prepare it, and it's moving fast in the speed of sound.

[171] So all that shit that, I mean, I don't know if the Iron Dome that the Israelis have, I don't think that's capable of stopping hypersonic weapons, is it?

[172] I don't know.

[173] It sounds like the ways of missiles.

[174] It's like, all right, let's take a left here.

[175] This one's block.

[176] It can't keep up.

[177] It seems like the response time, you would have to have like a few seconds.

[178] I mean, you have, I don't know how, like, from the speed of sound, how long does it take to go from Moscow to Manhattan?

[179] Let's find that out.

[180] Let's just something more feasible.

[181] Moscow to Seattle.

[182] Like, Moscow to Seattle is a quick hop and a jump, right?

[183] But we got those two, right?

[184] We have supersonic.

[185] I don't think we do yet.

[186] Uh -oh.

[187] Allegedly.

[188] I don't think we do.

[189] Only China and Russia have them supposedly.

[190] That's not good.

[191] And they've been firing them, right?

[192] Yeah.

[193] Well, Putin launched one in Ukraine.

[194] Yeah.

[195] You know, just to make sure it works.

[196] Dictators be dictatoring.

[197] 27 times the speed of sound.

[198] Oh, my God.

[199] According to this article in the Seattle Times.

[200] Oh, my God.

[201] Yeah.

[202] 27 times the speed of sound is insane.

[203] How much time would it take for one of those missiles to hit Seattle?

[204] from Russia.

[205] I'm a guess.

[206] Let's guess.

[207] 15 seconds.

[208] I'm going to say 17 seconds, just we have two different answers.

[209] Because I have no idea.

[210] I'm just guessing.

[211] Me too.

[212] I mean, that many times fast and speed of sound.

[213] Trying to do the math on it.

[214] Well, just not coming up in the article that way.

[215] So the speed of sound is, it's like, that's mock one or whatever.

[216] It's 323 meters per second.

[217] When I type that in, times, you know, I'll try to get on the screen, times 27, it's in December, or claimed it could reach Mach 27, which is 20 ,500 miles per hour.

[218] Holy shit.

[219] That's a quick flight.

[220] Holy shit.

[221] So that's basically the whole world in an hour.

[222] Right?

[223] Am I right about that?

[224] Let me hit the distance from Moscow to Russia so we can see how long.

[225] I think that's right.

[226] You're asking the wrong.

[227] is 24 ,000 miles around, isn't it?

[228] Because it's 24 hours to spin for a whole cycle of a day.

[229] It's like you're looking at a fish -esque and what it's like to breathe.

[230] Yeah, but I'm a fish too.

[231] I'm a moron, too.

[232] I'm just guessing.

[233] I should just agree.

[234] Like, we're smart.

[235] Like, yeah, absolutely.

[236] But it depends on the elements, of course.

[237] While you're doing a podcast, you're juggling so many things in your head and trying to manage the conversation and then also do math.

[238] 8 ,365 kilometers.

[239] Okay.

[240] Okay.

[241] So if it's going 24...

[242] It's 33 ,000 kilometers.

[243] That's like a quarter of it.

[244] Oh, my God.

[245] 15 minutes?

[246] Is that the metric system kilometers?

[247] Yeah, yeah.

[248] So you have 15 minutes.

[249] Is there a Canadian we can ask?

[250] I don't know if that's right.

[251] 15 minutes seems...

[252] Well, whatever it is.

[253] It's quick.

[254] You don't have time.

[255] You don't have like an hour.

[256] Putin's strapped.

[257] He's strapped and so is China.

[258] Yeah.

[259] They're both strapped.

[260] Do they know Jiu -Jitsu, though?

[261] Oh, Putin does.

[262] He does.

[263] He does.

[264] Yeah, he's a legit black belt in judo.

[265] Because it may come to hand -to -hand.

[266] Who has more, like, dudes who are ready?

[267] Like, if it gets hand -to -hand.

[268] Well, I mean, it's a numbers game because Russians are hard fucking people.

[269] They are hard human beings.

[270] Some of the Russians that are fighting in the UFC right now are just dominating.

[271] There's so many guys from Dagestan that are crushing people.

[272] There's guys from all sort, that whole area, has a lot of fucking, one of the top guys right now is from Chechnya.

[273] This guy, Hamzot Shemayev.

[274] There's, you know, obviously Khabib Nirmagamanov who's the goat.

[275] He's from Dagestan.

[276] There's a ton of guys from Dagestan.

[277] And Russia always seems to have just like millions of people to throw at death during a war.

[278] That's the thing.

[279] Anytime you read about anything in history that has to do with Russian war, it's just like and a million Russians died.

[280] Yeah, we had a guy on the other day that was telling us they have a mobile crematorium.

[281] So they're just a just throwing their corpses into this incinerator as they, so there's no account of how many dead.

[282] They don't have a real good count because they're getting wiped out.

[283] Because what he's explaining to us was that the roads into Kiev, you have to take those roads.

[284] You can't go around because the ground is all mud right now.

[285] So if they took the tanks and all these armored vehicles off road, they would all get bogged down in the mud.

[286] So they see them coming.

[287] So these guys just stand on the side of the road and hide behind buildings and launch fucking missiles and rockets at these armored carriers and blow these things up left and right so these guys are dying but they're also killing a shitload of civilians too that's the horrible part that's why it's like the people of the world should demand like all right you want Dumbos and whatever the other region is and Crimea no civilians no more soldiers fighting no more kids dying it's Putin versus Biden that's it Well, we lose.

[288] No, we win, Duke.

[289] You got that wrong.

[290] How does Biden win?

[291] He's a white walker, dude.

[292] You don't watch Game of Thrones?

[293] Who you put your money on?

[294] John Snow or the dude who's from the dead?

[295] Can you imagine how they actually made leaders fight in the leader?

[296] We'd have a real problem.

[297] The mountain would be the king of the world from Game of Thrones.

[298] Yeah, or, yeah.

[299] He would be the king of the world.

[300] Yeah.

[301] He would be our king.

[302] Yeah.

[303] That's the way it should happen, though, right?

[304] Shouldn't it be just like a commissioned fight?

[305] Well, if we had to take, like, we don't have, like, who's the best person, the best representative of the United States?

[306] We'd have to use Francis Ingano.

[307] I mean, he's from Cameroon, but he is, like, at least officially, he's the UFC heavyweight champion and lives in America.

[308] Oh, yeah, you could do it.

[309] He fights for America.

[310] America, we claim, yeah.

[311] We'd have to.

[312] Hillary Clinton became a senator in New York.

[313] She was there like a day.

[314] That's true.

[315] Yeah, Angano's American now.

[316] He's American.

[317] You got skills, you're American.

[318] If you want to be here, you're American.

[319] No, no, we tighten him up, give him a nice bag.

[320] Yeah, we'd work on his accent a little bit.

[321] Sound like he's from Chicago.

[322] Keep that accent.

[323] Yeah.

[324] We take everybody here.

[325] We're America.

[326] Yeah.

[327] That's the thing about America, you can have an accent and be American.

[328] Yes.

[329] We're a melting pot.

[330] We should embrace his accent.

[331] Yeah, you're right, yeah.

[332] He's an amazing guy.

[333] You ever listen to his story?

[334] I just know that he's, I know he's not rich.

[335] I know he didn't come from rich as nobody is that good.

[336] Oh, way crazy than that.

[337] Way crazy than that.

[338] He made his way from Cameroon.

[339] to Morocco.

[340] It took 14 months.

[341] He basically did it on foot, hitching rides, paying people to take him across the desert.

[342] And then they would get in rafts and go from Morocco to Europe.

[343] And seven times he got arrested.

[344] And every time they would arrest you, they would drop you off in the desert, hoping you would die.

[345] So they take you deep into the desert, drop you off.

[346] And he made it back to the fucking border every single time.

[347] And the way he detailed it on my podcast, it was like this harrowing.

[348] long story that you can't believe is real but you know is real it's so crazy he's got like the life story of bane from Batman he's a superhero from a movie he's a he's a guy from a movie when you hear what he did he worked in a sand mine when he was 11 years old wow it's one of the reasons why he's so fucking strong I mean obviously he's 6 5 or 6 6 6 6 in incredible genetics but on top of that as a child worked in a fucking sand mine just digging sand as a small Oh boy, you're strengthening.

[349] Like, it's like a Conan scene.

[350] Yeah.

[351] When Conan was on the wheel in that movie, like pushing the wheel through the sand.

[352] That's our king.

[353] That, yeah.

[354] I think you just made a pretty good argument.

[355] Yeah, that's our king.

[356] Is he the baddest dude in the world?

[357] 100%.

[358] 100%.

[359] Like, there's nobody in the world that could take him.

[360] No, no one in the world in an MMA fight.

[361] You know, they're talking about him fighting Tyson Fury in a boxing match, which I fully support.

[362] Just because I want him to make a lot of money, but in an M .MA fight, he would murder Tyson Fury.

[363] It wouldn't last long.

[364] It wouldn't last long.

[365] He would kick his legs one or two times, and Tyson Fury would be incapacitated.

[366] He would clinch him up against the fence, elbow in the head.

[367] If he took him to the ground, like, whatever he did.

[368] Once it's in the MMA realm, everybody's fucked.

[369] You put him in a cage, everybody's fucked.

[370] Give him a five -minute round, everybody's fucked.

[371] He's going to crush everybody.

[372] He's too big, too strong.

[373] And he's because he's become.

[374] come clever and he's got really good coaching now like his fight against stepe meochich it's like the first fight he thought he was just going to knock him out and he lost a decision but the second fight he he showed composure and poise and and patience and a great game plan and just destroyed stepe stepe also made a mistake when he thought after he got up right he clipped him a little bit he thought he heard him he thought he heard him and he opened himself up yeah but that's just stepe you know Steppe's just a warrior.

[375] He's always looking for openings.

[376] He's, you're looking to turn the tide.

[377] But Francis is just too powerful.

[378] It's just like, it's also the difference between a guy who's like a natural 240, 235, 240, and a guy who's a natural 270.

[379] That's what Francis.

[380] Francis loses weight to make the, UFC has a heavyweight limit of 265.

[381] Yeah.

[382] And Francis loses weight to make 265.

[383] Natural.

[384] Yeah.

[385] But let's just say, Stepe did beat him once.

[386] So that does, that does speak to how tough a place.

[387] I mean, I'm playing there soon, and Cleveland looks a little like Cameroon right now.

[388] Well, it's also Croatians.

[389] Steve -Bay's got those fucking Croatian genes.

[390] Eastern European, yeah.

[391] He's an animal.

[392] That eastern block down there.

[393] But, you know, he's also, he's like, he's out of some fucking wars, man. And I think that first fight with Francis took a lot out of Steve Bay.

[394] I think it took a lot out of him.

[395] I think there's certain fights where guys really never going to be the same again after the fight.

[396] That's probably one of them.

[397] If I was fighting in Ganu, or if I was training someone to fight in Ganu, the first thing I would do is be like, don't read anything about him.

[398] I don't want you to know his story.

[399] My advice would just be like, cover your head up and let him hit you in the body.

[400] Yeah.

[401] Let it be over.

[402] Take that body shot and just fucking go down.

[403] Hope he doesn't finish you off with a hammer fist to the jaw where you have to drink out of a fucking straw for the next three months.

[404] Remember Peter McNeely when he fought?

[405] Mike Tyson He just ran at him He was like I'm gonna try this once And then he's just like Okay I'm going down That's it He clipped Tyson a couple of times Yeah I mean I was Tyson fresh out of the joint Yeah you just got to hope to get lucky With one swing And then you're going down There's no lucky with Tyson You ain't getting lucky Because he can get hit with a missile His head is so fucking thick Like his his jaw Is so thick His structure of his neck His neck is so thick Like he was such Like a shock absorber For punches Like Tyson got hit with bombs Even in the fight he lost to Buster Douglas, look at all many times he got hit before he went down.

[406] Same with Avander.

[407] Same with a vander.

[408] Yeah.

[409] Be it with big shots before he went down.

[410] Whereas most people would have been taken out by one of those.

[411] He takes a gang of them before.

[412] It's like he's like in a movie or in a video game rather when you get to the final boss.

[413] And you got to like do everything you can to beat that guy.

[414] It required so much.

[415] Yeah.

[416] He was like a freak show.

[417] of speed and power.

[418] Technique.

[419] The whole head movement.

[420] Yeah, everything.

[421] He would just come in on you and then that move.

[422] It was like that patented Tyson, what was it?

[423] Body shot and then uppercut.

[424] It was like, boom, boom.

[425] Yep, right to the body.

[426] You didn't even see the uppercut because it was below your eyes.

[427] And your body was still quivering from that body shot.

[428] Yeah.

[429] And also it's crazy, like just the amount of synchronicity, like how everything just worked out perfectly with him.

[430] I'm not perfectly, but you know, like when he was 13 years old, he's this kid who weighs 190 pounds at 13 years old, which is just insane.

[431] He was a tank, and he was relatively short for a heavyweight.

[432] He's only like 510, 511, and then he meets Custamato who had invented a specific style called the peekaboo style, which was criticized by a lot of people.

[433] They didn't think it was a good style where you keep your hands up like this and you're moving like that and a lot of bobbing and weaving, which was the perfect style for his body type.

[434] And Custamano literally had mastered that style, and it was basically his invention.

[435] Was Tyson like the one guy who really took that style to a championship?

[436] Oh, yeah.

[437] Well, I mean, the other guys had that style, and they did it, but Cuss had a lot of really great fighters.

[438] Like he had Floyd Patterson and Jose Torres.

[439] He had very good fighters that came out of his camp.

[440] but as he was an old man he meets this young prodigy that's Tyson yeah it was the perfect combination of a guy who's not just a man who knows so much about boxing who had been around forever but he was also a psychologist who was a hypnotist so like he was a master of psychological preparation and he would hypnotize Tyson when he was young and he would tell him you don't exist it's just the task the task the task exists.

[441] He turned him into like a Terminator.

[442] A Terminator.

[443] Yeah, and he would, like, kill it all caught.

[444] Bro, he was a terminator.

[445] Dude, that photo, he was a mean -looking dude.

[446] I wanted to hand that photo of my milk money right there.

[447] I was like, take my wallet.

[448] And that's a young Tyson.

[449] That's a young Tyson when he, I think he's got an amateur t -shirt on, so he might have been fighting in the amateurs back then.

[450] He's a tough dude.

[451] Yeah, it doesn't even look like he was capable of smiling during that time.

[452] It's funny because I follow him now, and he's like the wisest guy.

[453] Like, he's always dropping gems.

[454] Well, he thinks, man. He's always contemplating, I mean, even back when he was fighting, he read a lot about, like, conquerors and, like, he and I got in this long discussion about Jenghis Khan.

[455] Like, he knows his real name, was his Temujin.

[456] He, like, he rattled off all this data on Genghis Khan.

[457] Like, he's read extensively on Alexander the Great and all these crazy conquerors.

[458] Like, that mindset, he, like, applied a lot of their historical writings and all the things that you learn about these.

[459] conquerors here applied that to his fighting it's amazing and i guess with customato kind of focused him and because where he's from uh brownsville i mean the tough upbringing he had like it makes me realize how much of life is to control your emotions because we're not we're not we're not we're not reasonable animals we have the capability of reason and being rational but we are emotional animals.

[460] Yeah.

[461] Our innate instincts are to be emotional.

[462] You have to learn logic and reason and to think you have to learn that.

[463] It's not innate.

[464] Well, we're primates.

[465] That's why we're prone to dictators because it's all emotion.

[466] They just appeal to your emotion.

[467] Well, it's all that, but it's also like if you look at primate cultures, there's always an alpha.

[468] There's a big silverback gorilla.

[469] There's always an alpha chimp that runs the entire pack of chimps.

[470] We always have like a great leader.

[471] Like, and throughout history, human beings have had trust.

[472] tribal leaders.

[473] You've had a leader of the tribe that was usually the oldest warrior, the strongest warrior who had experienced the most, and he would lead the young that were coming up and they would defend their tribe against invaders.

[474] That's part of our history.

[475] Do you think what's maybe going wrong in American with freedom is that because of advertising, because of marketing and how it controls America and how much they market to the youth, because That's the coveted demographic that we've sort of empowered the youth and now even boomers are pejorative and like, you know, you can use your, people use your age when you're older as like a pejorative.

[476] Like, you're old.

[477] But isn't it like, dude, yeah, I'm old.

[478] I know more shit than you.

[479] Yeah, but those people are idiots.

[480] People who do that, you're old.

[481] Well, I mean, actually, that's not true because sometimes people are old and they're stuck in their way.

[482] They're stuck in the way that they were, you know, they're stuck in the day.

[483] oh, back in my day, if you wanted to talk on the phone, you had to stay next to the cord.

[484] You know, like, there's some stupid shit like that, but there's, you know, there's different kinds of old people.

[485] There's old people that are wise, and they're old people that are young idiots that just survived.

[486] Good point.

[487] But the wise ones at least should be revered, no. There's got to be some sort of system where you revere experience.

[488] Yeah.

[489] But they have to have respect, too.

[490] Like, they have to respect the young.

[491] young people too.

[492] And that's a thing that sometimes people, when they get older, they automatically want respect from young people just because they've lived longer, which is stupid.

[493] There's old idiots, you know, there's old people that are just dumb as fuck.

[494] And they just manage, because we have a relatively cushy existence, you know, for most people, food's not hard to get, you know, a decent job where you can pay your rent, not that hard to get.

[495] This is like, this is a, this is a, time of unprecedented job opportunities.

[496] So many people have quit their jobs during the pandemic, which is really wild.

[497] Yeah.

[498] Because I don't know where they're getting their money.

[499] I don't know either.

[500] But yeah, it is, this is the most comfortable time to be allowed.

[501] The amenities of modernity are sweet.

[502] They're pretty sweet.

[503] You don't even have to, when you get food delivered to your house, you don't even have to look the guy in the eye.

[504] You just crack the door open and pull your food in like a prisoner in solitary confinement.

[505] So there's older folks that deserve deep respect.

[506] Like there's the Cornell West of the world that does.

[507] deserve deep respect.

[508] They've, they've experienced so much, and they're so wise, and they're older.

[509] And then there's old people that are just morons.

[510] You know, they're just morons that because of all these incredible inventions and the advances of society and medicine and the availability of food, they've managed to make it to 75.

[511] But they're a fucking dummy.

[512] They're a dumb 23 -year -old that just kept living.

[513] You know, there's a lot of that.

[514] Yeah.

[515] Like, you know, I used to have a bit about that, about old assholes were assholes when they're young.

[516] They just survived.

[517] Yeah.

[518] Like this idea like, you know, you show me respect.

[519] Like, you don't deserve respect just because you're old.

[520] Some people deserve respect.

[521] I have a theory too.

[522] I don't know.

[523] It's a little different though that nobody.

[524] You can't really tell who a person really is until they're old because that's when they show their true colors.

[525] Because it's easy to be nice and everything when you're young, hot, fuckable, able -bodied, you know.

[526] But like when you get older and you lose all that, if you're still cool, then you were really cool.

[527] Because a lot of people turn into like bitter dicks when, you know, they can't do all the things that they used to do.

[528] You know, you go to those old, I've spent a lot of time in nursing homes with my parents.

[529] And a lot of those people are dicks.

[530] And they were probably really cool when they were able -bodied and fuckable.

[531] Maybe.

[532] Maybe not.

[533] Maybe they always sucked.

[534] You know?

[535] I mean, it's, the thing about, like, getting older is, like, for the, the biggest shift is hot women.

[536] When a hot woman goes, a hot woman goes from being a hot 25 -year -old to being a completely unattractive, 60 year old Like no one wants to have sex with you Everybody wants to have sex Imagine if your personality was based Like a lot of these Instahos Like think about the fucking future That they're looking at Because if you look at them When they're 25 Like their entire existence Is about you know Videos of them doing squats from behind And you know Inspirational quotes and music And they're just flooded with attention Their inbox Must look like a tsunami of dicks Just flying at them Right?

[537] 80 fucking 5 ,000 miles an hour.

[538] It's seen in the Bible.

[539] Instead of frogs, it's just dicks raining out of the deck.

[540] I mean, if you're one of those gals that has like, you know, there's a bunch of those gals that have like millions of Instagram followers and they're just hot as the sun and just doing squats all day and deadlifts and great music and looking ahead all determined with their headphones on and just they absorb themselves in their phone all day long.

[541] It's like checking out how many people are paying attention to them, checking out how many likes they're getting, how many messages they're getting.

[542] When you go from that to 40 years later when you're 65, 40 years happens quick.

[543] Yeah.

[544] It really does.

[545] It doesn't seem like it happens quick because 40 years from now, like if you had to hold your breath, it seems like a long time.

[546] But time just keeps going.

[547] And after a while, you look back and you're 65.

[548] You're 65 and no one wants to fuck you.

[549] Well, I think some of that depends on culture.

[550] Because I've spent a lot of time in Miami.

[551] I lived down there for a year.

[552] those Latin women know how to keep it going.

[553] Well, J -Lo's a good example of that.

[554] Yeah, there's just something in that culture where they just keep that sexiness.

[555] Like, you'll see a grandma holding her grandkid, but she'll have the ass will be propped up.

[556] She'll be walking like a regal 20 -year -old.

[557] And the energy, like, I want to fuck her.

[558] Really?

[559] Even though she's 70, I want to fuck her.

[560] What's the oldest lady you would fuck?

[561] It depends on where.

[562] In Wisconsin, 40.

[563] and even then it'll be like yeah it'd be like yeah it just yeah I mean you know a lot of it would be weight based I think also how rude don't you know that body positive I just came from San Antonio so I mean what's it like down there it's hard to fit in that city how's so it's just people are big population is not huge but they're just big folks a lot of food a lot of food there Texas size and the people are big yeah they eat a lot and the people are a little big so it's kind of it's like a crowded airport even though there's not a lot of people I wonder if, like, there's an index that shows people's, like, body size in relationship to city, in relationship to how delicious their food is.

[564] I'm sure there's got to.

[565] It must be.

[566] There's got to be.

[567] Right?

[568] Texas Big is a thing for sure.

[569] Oh, God.

[570] Like, Terry Blacks, you go and have barbecue there?

[571] Like, if you do that multiple times a week, you're going to be a fat fuck.

[572] You're going to be a fat fuck.

[573] Do you think food because it becomes such a burden on the health care system and because, you know, heart attacks and cardiac problems?

[574] are such a big cause of death.

[575] Do you think there should be like some sort of system where you have to earn to order the right food?

[576] Like you go to get a burger and they punch up your name and they go, you're not, it's illegal for you.

[577] Well, that's what, the problem with that's, you're basically talking about like a social credit system and that's a digital currency system is what.

[578] More like a diet credit system.

[579] Yeah, but the problem is you're telling people what they can and can't do with their money.

[580] And ultimately, there's ways that the government is going to try to implement implement and I say the government.

[581] Let's just say the Chinese government.

[582] Chinese government has already implemented a social credit system and it's tied to digital currencies, tied to your currency.

[583] So what it means is like you could go to buy something and it'll say no, your social credit is too low for you to be able to purchase this whatever you want to watch.

[584] You won't be able to do it because you're fucked up or you talk badly about the government on Twitter.

[585] That is a real thing and that's a real concern.

[586] If you tied that to food and tied that they'll oh you can't buy that cheeseburger what if I'm fucking hungry like no I think you should have freedom and if your freedom is also the freedom to become a fat fuck and if you you have a burden on the health care system I think that it's on the government to try to educate people about the benefits of being healthy and not becoming a fat fuck and being alive to hang out with your grandchildren and you know and hang out with your wife and your golden years like that's that's what the burden should be on education not on punitive punishments like you You can't have a fucking cheeseburger.

[587] And who's telling me that?

[588] Chris Christie, is he going to tell me I can't have a cheeseburger?

[589] You know what I mean?

[590] No, he can't have a cheeseburger.

[591] Right, but you know what I'm saying?

[592] Like, who's going to be the person?

[593] Imagine if you have a fat governor.

[594] You could do it, dude.

[595] You're in shape A .F. Yeah, but if you see what I eat, like, a fucking, like three people.

[596] Yeah.

[597] I eat so much fucking food, dude.

[598] But you eat lean, you know, and you got to be doing something right.

[599] Well, I work out like a terrorist.

[600] Yeah.

[601] Like a terrorist.

[602] But it's also.

[603] That's pretty intense.

[604] I eat a lot of food, man. I mean, it's like, I'm a glutton.

[605] I'm a legit glutton.

[606] Like, I have to curb my tendencies to overeat.

[607] I eat a lot, too.

[608] I have to curb mine.

[609] Yeah.

[610] I mean, I'm kidding, but it does make for a tidy society.

[611] You have to admit to the Chinese, it's tidy over there.

[612] Yeah, but it doesn't.

[613] You throw a rapper on the ground, then you disappear.

[614] I mean, it works.

[615] It does work in that way.

[616] Yeah, it works that way.

[617] It's just not good for innovation.

[618] No. It's not good for creativity.

[619] It's not what, it's immoral.

[620] You got to have wild people that do wild.

[621] shit and then those crazy fucks they create fun things they create fun times fun experiences like you have to have a world where you have the freedom to create a joey diaz like that's you can't create a joey dyes in china right they would have killed him when he was like 20 right he would have never made it right or they would have made him emperor because they would just be like i got to hear this guy tell a story those kind of stuff you could gather a crowd i mean he could be dictator you know he started doing stand -up in prison he would uh they would uh they would would have a bad movie that would play.

[622] And they would say, Coco, get up there.

[623] And he would just go up there and start telling stories.

[624] Yeah.

[625] And that's literally how he started thinking about doing stand -up professional.

[626] He's made for it with that voice.

[627] Oh, man. He's just made for talking and entertaining, yeah.

[628] It's the most entertaining person I've ever met my life.

[629] He's just great.

[630] There's a lot of great comedians out there, and I don't think Joey's the best joke writer, but I think he's the funniest person.

[631] He's the funniest person that's ever lived, that I've ever met.

[632] Some people are just inherently funny.

[633] It's like their vehicle is funny They're funny He's just one of those guys He's just a funny dude It's a human cartoon Yeah And he's wise He's a wise guy man He's wise man You know you talk to him Joey Diaz thinks about things That are very wide Like there's a reason why He doesn't want a text message He goes I want to He goes I'm insecure I want to talk to you I want to know I want you to know I love you When I call you up I want to hear your voice I want to say some nice things to you I want you to say some nice things to me We'll talk Like it's like That's wise Because text messages are very impersonal.

[634] It's funny that I just picture him actually answering the phone for like credit like when you get because there's a lot of spam calls now when you give your number at like Banana Republic to get 10 % off I fall for every trick of that.

[635] He's got the blocker on it'll go straight to voice.

[636] Because I just picture him going making them have a conversation with him.

[637] He doesn't want to talk to Muts.

[638] He doesn't want to talk to just any shmow but he, when you're his friend, you're his friend for life.

[639] I do anything for that.

[640] Anything.

[641] I do anything for him.

[642] We need more wisdom though.

[643] You said he's wise and like democracy, do you think at a certain point it just kind of eats?

[644] It's like the representatives become things get so free.

[645] People get stupid and lazy.

[646] And then the representatives become an actual accurate reflection of the people.

[647] And then you start to think of people like Plato and the Republic.

[648] And you start to go, maybe we need like a wise guy, somebody who's tested from when he's young.

[649] And, you know, his piety is sort of investigated.

[650] and somebody like that to lead us as opposed to someone who's elected because the way people are elected like you know because Benjamin Franklin once said why one of my favorite quotes from history is like they asked him why he never ran for president he said just wanting the job would be suspect enough you know it's sort of like it's a moral flaw to be ambitious if because power corrupts and so is there something too like a reluctant leader that we should have you know I think that's really the only type of person that would be really great at the job was someone who's someone who's who did it reluctantly out of a feeling of service, like they wanted to correct something that was wrong.

[651] That's what the knuckleheads thought Trump was doing.

[652] Like all, that's why all that drain the swamp rhetoric worked because people like, yeah, he's gonna go in and clean it up, all those people that have a rudimentary understanding of how politics works and how our system works and a representative democracy works.

[653] And they all thought that he was gonna be the outsider that came in and cleaned everything up.

[654] And to a certain extent they were right, I mean, it showed that a person can do that who is not a career politician and actually win if they have enough resources and enough charisma and enough of a lot of things.

[655] A lot of pieces have to be in play.

[656] A lot of people have to be fed up with the system that's currently in place and just disgusted with the lack of choices and the same standard sort of politicians over and over again running into office.

[657] but he opened the door for someone who's maybe of that cloth but not a narcissist and not a crazy egomaniac but that's also one of the reasons why he was successful because they would say all these horrible things about him and he would just fucking just brush it off like he never aged a minute no every other president Biden has aged a thousand years in the first one year in office he looks like a walking dead man he looked like shit before he became president but he looks way worse now yeah i mean he's mumbling he can't get through sentences they keep walking back what he's saying you ever seen those compilations where biden is saying non -words yeah it's wild yeah it's like sounds like my 60 -month -old daughter sometimes trying to get words out yeah he's challenged like it's this real problem he's 80 right yes he's close yeah if he's not he's not he's 79 or 80 yeah what but but not trump man when he was in office he never fucking age and now he's doing these campaign speeches and he's funny like he says funny shit did you see what he said the other day about the climate he's always funny the John Kerry thing goes John Kerry's worried about the climate and he goes over the ocean's gonna rise a half of an inch over the next 500 fucking years and it's like Jesus Christ I think I saw him working that bit out at LOL I mean he's a comic the dude's a comic he's got he's got timing pretty soon we're gonna be see him like he's gonna call you and be like Joe can I work out I got a new 15.

[658] I'm about to tell my MAGA people.

[659] If a comic ran for president, like...

[660] Salinsky.

[661] Yeah, in Ukraine, sure.

[662] But if a comic ran for president in America, like, I think Schultz could pull it off.

[663] I think Schultz could be president someday.

[664] It would definitely be...

[665] He definitely would release his presidency in clips.

[666] Yes, for sure.

[667] It would be short.

[668] It would be short.

[669] He would have it down to...

[670] Turn your phone sideways.

[671] Yeah, turn your phone sideways for a second.

[672] This is why I'm running for president.

[673] Citizens of America.

[674] He'll have T -shirt guns and shit.

[675] You could do anything with a T -shirt gun.

[676] You ever see people at a basketball game when the T -shirt guns come out?

[677] Isn't it wild that people care?

[678] How many T -shirts do you need?

[679] If we took T -shirt guns right now to the Ukraine War and just shot them off, the soldiers would stop fighting to try to get the T -shirts.

[680] People do anything for a free T -shirt.

[681] It is weird that T -shirt thing is a, like, T -shirt guns a thing.

[682] It drives people.

[683] They love it.

[684] It's fun.

[685] It's fun.

[686] Everyone's like over here!

[687] It's fun.

[688] Yeah, it's fun.

[689] I mean, you think it's also a numbers game, right?

[690] If there's 15 ,000 people in a crowd and you're one of five people that catches a t -shirt, it's pretty sweet.

[691] It is sweet.

[692] You know, you know, you can be that one person.

[693] What do you think if we started thinking outside the box, though, for president?

[694] Because we're in a new era with a new level of technology that's changed the world so much.

[695] Like, shouldn't we start thinking about, like, shouldn't the president be someone who's a pro who can, like, overlooked but can.

[696] lead like a conjoined twins like we get like you know what I mean like who knows how to who better to teach us to get along than two people like trapped in the same body have you ever seen that 60 minutes where there's like those two sisters they have one body and two heads you ever see sigura's bit on that no it's rough what does he say it's rough it's hilarious but it's it's a tom to grow a bit you know it's fucking he goes I don't want to say it I feel bad yeah well I would go the other way and say like those two girls can teach us like how to get along yeah maybe but you know there's a lot of other things you have to be aware of you know there's it's like to be a real leader is almost impossible I think we we need like a council of elders of wise people that's what I think I think the idea of running the government with one person is so preposterous you know although it's obviously not one person they have a cabinet, they have a vice president, there's a law, you know, you have a legislative branches.

[697] Yeah, there's a lot of checks and balances in place.

[698] But it's still, it's a popularity contest.

[699] And every four years, a person is new on the job.

[700] And they have the, the hardest job in the world, and they just started.

[701] Like, it's like, well, this is the thing that, I mean, I can't imagine that it wasn't a factor that Biden is so incompetent, that it led Putin to be more bold in his approach with Ukraine.

[702] I can't imagine that the Afghanistan pull out, which was so disastrous and so poorly planned, and it looked so terrible on the world stage, I can't imagine that that didn't have an effect.

[703] Well, there's one thing it does show and that it does throw a wrench in the whole Trump was a Russian asset thing.

[704] Oh, yeah.

[705] Because if he was a Russian asset, that wouldn't the perfect time to invade have been when he was president because he wouldn't put these harsh sanctions on, he would sort of go easy on him.

[706] So that theory's kind of thrown out the window.

[707] Well, that theory has been disproven by facts.

[708] If you look at how that whole propaganda stream was trumped up, no pun intended, that was designed by propagandists.

[709] They were trying to promote a fake narrative that he was in cahoots with the Russians, that he was a Russian agent.

[710] I mean, you heard that from all these idiots on TV over and over and over again.

[711] And now that it's been proven and not be true, not only was it proven and not be true, but it was proven that the Hillary Clinton campaign was involved with that, and that they had even hacked into the Trump servers.

[712] They had hired people to hack into the servers, and they were trying to push this narrative that he was in cahoots with Russia.

[713] Yeah.

[714] I think they're all messy, all these people that you deal with Russia, you deal with China, there's a deal here and a deal there and there's money being passed around and it's like everyone's compromised at a certain point and I don't think you get to that position of power without being in some way compromised right your relationships yeah I mean the whole peed on the hooker thing was hilarious it was hilarious and far -fetched that that would be something they could black mail him with because Trump just seems like the type of guy be like yeah I peed on a hooker you know yeah it's what I did they peed on him I forget or he peed on him it's like yeah you should try he would probably go you should try it but it's one is He's not like a germ freak.

[715] They say he's a germ freak.

[716] Like, that's the last thing.

[717] He doesn't shake hands and things, yeah.

[718] Oh, he shakes hands.

[719] Oh, he does.

[720] Yeah, he shook my hand.

[721] By the way, he's got normal size hands.

[722] He does have normal sense.

[723] Yeah.

[724] He's just a big dude.

[725] I have pretty big hands.

[726] You got paws.

[727] His hands is, like, normal.

[728] Yeah.

[729] Like, I know when a guy has a tiny hand.

[730] Yeah.

[731] You know?

[732] Yeah.

[733] Yeah, he has a normal hand.

[734] Maybe he's just, he's, because he's a big dude, right?

[735] He's tall, so maybe they just look a little.

[736] Well, he's got a boxy suit on to hide his fat.

[737] Yeah.

[738] And so when you got a boxy suit on, all your appendages look little, they're hanging out of this big suit.

[739] Yeah, yeah.

[740] He always, yeah, that's why I always felt like Ice Cube, I feel like always wore a big shirt because I think he had sort of a pudgy.

[741] He was pudgy big.

[742] Yeah, you know, it makes you look less.

[743] I mean, if you're wearing tight clothes and you got a fat gut, it's not a good look.

[744] Yeah, you got to go black color.

[745] That's what I'm doing right now.

[746] Yeah, there you go.

[747] But it's like that was this narrative that, you know, they were shaming him for his little hands.

[748] Like, that's the weird thing about the left, too.

[749] is that you're not supposed to fat shame.

[750] It's supposed to be body positivity.

[751] It's supposed to mock people for things that they can't control unless they don't fit with your narrative.

[752] Like it was an opportunity to stand up to their own principles, and they violated it instantaneously.

[753] They're like, look at his little hands.

[754] Probably got a little dick.

[755] Right, right.

[756] That was the implication.

[757] Little hands are a little dick, and that's why he wants to be a dictator.

[758] Right.

[759] They did the same thing to Huckabee, Sanders.

[760] They just ripped her apart What did they do?

[761] They were talking about her looks Oh her looks Yeah Well that was I mean did they really I mean Michelle Wolf had a funny hilarious bit about her When she was doing The White House Correspondent speech Remember she did stand up And Trump was mocking her And all she said It's something about Her fucking smoky makeup She didn't make fun of her makeup Yeah it wasn't even that bad But I mean Not bad at all People did attack her looks Like from the left Well Yeah.

[762] I mean, if you're on us because they had eyes.

[763] Yeah, like Jen Saki.

[764] Yeah.

[765] She looks shrew.

[766] Yeah.

[767] She looks like someone who is like a teacher that you're like, oh, not this lady.

[768] Yeah.

[769] Like if you got a sub, a sub's two teacher and it's, oh, it's Mrs. Saki.

[770] Oh, great.

[771] You know?

[772] Yeah.

[773] Imagine that gig.

[774] What?

[775] Being a fucking White House press secretary.

[776] You just have to lie.

[777] Yeah.

[778] She looks like, uh, Jim Saki looks like the chick from the big Lobowski.

[779] Mr. Lobowski.

[780] With the red haircut.

[781] Wow.

[782] That was Julianne Moore in Big Lebowski.

[783] Oh, no, Julianne Moore is way hotter.

[784] I know, but the haircut and the red hair.

[785] I don't know.

[786] Julianne Moore was hot.

[787] That's not.

[788] You wouldn't throw in it, you know?

[789] At soccer?

[790] She's a Greek girl, too.

[791] Imagine the conversations you'd have to have before you got in bed with her?

[792] She'd have great stories.

[793] She'd make some up.

[794] You would have an argument with her, and she wouldn't even try to be accurate.

[795] She would just try to dance around the truth.

[796] We'll circle back to that.

[797] But what I'm trying to say, what the president means is like, when they have those speeches, It's not about truth.

[798] That's the most frustrating thing about that.

[799] Like when Peter Deucey from Fox says, well, the president said this.

[800] And this is like, well, I think you know, the president means this, and it's good for the world, and it's good for the...

[801] And it's just bullshit.

[802] And all they're trying to do is just make it sound good.

[803] That's all those speeches are.

[804] Just make it sound okay.

[805] Make it sound good.

[806] It's not about relaying information or facts or being accurate or transparent.

[807] It's just about sounding good enough to get out of that.

[808] with a win or at least a draw.

[809] Yeah.

[810] That's all it is.

[811] They're like lawyers for the president.

[812] Worse.

[813] Yeah.

[814] Worse because lawyers have to stick to facts.

[815] Well, do they?

[816] I mean, when they're coming, well, some things, they're quoting actual statistics and numbers and, I mean, they have dockets, right?

[817] So they have rather evidence.

[818] So they look at the evidence.

[819] Like, if the defense gets the evidence and the prosecution gets the evidence, you get to look at it.

[820] Like, that's not what the numbers are at all.

[821] Right.

[822] She can just lie.

[823] Right.

[824] She just bullshits about things.

[825] Right, right.

[826] She bullsheds about so many different things that are not true.

[827] She said that the vaccines were FDA approved, gold standard approved.

[828] No, they're not.

[829] They're not.

[830] It's emergency youth authorization.

[831] This is a lie.

[832] You're saying it on television.

[833] Everybody knows this.

[834] People are going to be able to look this up.

[835] There's a lot of those things that she did.

[836] It's just to make it sound good enough to get out of there with a W. Let me get out of there.

[837] Thank you.

[838] Bye.

[839] No more questions.

[840] Like, I got out of this one.

[841] I'm okay.

[842] Right.

[843] Johnny Cochran would be a good press secretary, though.

[844] He'd be a very good person.

[845] I mean, I don't think he sticks to the truth.

[846] You know, some lawyers do lie.

[847] Of course they do.

[848] Yeah, but the gloves did not fit.

[849] So, that is evidence.

[850] He put him on and he went, I couldn't have done it.

[851] Remember he went like this and shoved his hand out wide, tight leather gloves?

[852] That is a wild story.

[853] I'll never forget the day.

[854] Me and my girlfriend were sitting in front of the television in 1994.

[855] and we were watching the verdict, 94, 95, whatever it was, watching the verdict on television.

[856] And when they said, not guilty, she went like this.

[857] She was shocked.

[858] That's it.

[859] That's the moment.

[860] Yeah.

[861] Who's that other guy?

[862] What's this guy, the white guy?

[863] F .E. Bailey.

[864] They all died of cancer, right?

[865] Didn't they all die of cancer?

[866] I think...

[867] One of them.

[868] A couple of them are still up.

[869] Johnny Cochran had like a brain tumor, I think.

[870] Yeah.

[871] And he dropped.

[872] he was smooth though yeah man all those guys man imagine knowing you got that guy off when he cut his wife's head off of the fucking knife there's Kardashian that's the patriotard Kardashian that's the cuba gooding junior thing yeah cuba gooding junior just kept getting in trouble is he out of trouble now is he okay I don't know he kept coming after Cuba gooding junior what do he was getting very drunk and very handsy apparently at the very very very very least there's a lot of accusations yeah just dude was partying like way too hard in allegedly yeah in a very non -appropriate way in a very 1940s 50s where you could get away with it when you're a star probably deep into the 70s 70s yeah right 80s deep into like three years ago like like you imagine being like a Humphrey bogart type character in the uh you know the old days when a movie star was a new thing yeah like they if you go back before humphrey bow i guess like who's like the original movie star was it charlie chaplin like who would be the first big movie star buster keaton they're definitely one of the first because they were still silent movies then right like say let's say buster keaton no one knew how to be a movie star and all a sudden this guy was a movie star like there's no there's no data on how to do that right right Like now you can look at Will Smith and go, okay, don't smack comics.

[873] Don't go on.

[874] You're like, who knows how it's going to affect his career?

[875] Right.

[876] But it's probably not going to be good.

[877] Right.

[878] You know, you could see mistakes that famous people make and you go, oh, you don't want to do that.

[879] You don't want to be Alec Baldwin.

[880] You don't want to be this guy.

[881] You don't want to be that guy.

[882] And then you could kind of plan accordingly and learn from other people's mistakes.

[883] Because just the unchecked ego with that amount of adulation and attention and worship, Like, people worship stars, big movie stars.

[884] Like, when you, a guy like Buster Keaton or Charlie Chaplin or those early guys, they had no one to model them.

[885] Yeah.

[886] And, yeah, when you're that revered, it's hard to get the truth.

[887] Nobody, it's, everyone's scared to tell you.

[888] That's the, like, that's a problem with being king, right?

[889] Everyone's like, yeah, whatever you say is true, boss.

[890] Yeah, if you don't self -audit, if you don't look at your own bullshit, you have no way of knowing if you're that insulated from the rest of the world.

[891] kind of fucking terrifying it's not good it's not it's not a good position because it's a it's a bad position for analyzing data and as a human being you kind of constantly analyze how much of am i lying to myself am i bullshitting or people bullshitting me am i being rude and i think i'm justified but other people think it's terrible like let me look at this like i need to know where i'm coming from if you're that guy who shows up on the set and everyone's like mr smith can i get you a water mr. Smith which here's the latest script here's the thing you look amazing have you lost weight and they're just like everyone's kissing your ass because they all want a promotion they all want to be working with you forever they're gonna hitch their fucking caboose to your what's no the caboose is the engine in the caboose which one's the caboose the back really yeah hit your wagon I think it's hit your wagon of the horse yeah but like what is the front one called the engine what's the fucking what's the the motor what's the front of the plane or the front of the train if it's a Tesla It's a frunk.

[892] They call it a fronk, front trunk.

[893] Locomotive.

[894] Locomotive.

[895] Oh, really?

[896] But I thought that was the whole thing.

[897] Nope.

[898] The whole thing's called train.

[899] Oh, so the locomotive is the front part.

[900] Mm -hmm.

[901] Oh, I didn't know that.

[902] That's why the butts a caboose.

[903] Mm. But imagine if you're a person who's trying to hitch yourself to this rocket ship that is Elvis.

[904] You'll just say whatever.

[905] Elvis is like, I'm going to go to my room and do these pills.

[906] And you're like, that's good for you, boss.

[907] Yeah, I would do the same thing if I was you.

[908] I'm going to go eat these 10 cheeseburgers.

[909] That's great.

[910] Bro, they gave Elvis a black belt.

[911] Yeah.

[912] They gave Elvis a black belt and he used to do demonstrations in karate.

[913] With the big collar on.

[914] You ever see him do that?

[915] No. Oh, they're amazing.

[916] You never seen the Elvis karate demonstrations?

[917] No. Oh, Yonis.

[918] No. You see, Elvis, in my opinion, there's a cautionary tale in Elvis because he was the legit first rock star.

[919] The first rock star that was so big.

[920] And he wasn't in a band either.

[921] It was just Elvis, right?

[922] So it wasn't like John and Ringo and George could sit around and go, hey, what the fuck will we do it?

[923] And Paul McCartney chimes in and like, hey, guys, like, we got to fucking, we got to do acid.

[924] And that's what they did.

[925] Like, they were like, we got to find ourselves.

[926] Like, this is crazy.

[927] Like, our position, right?

[928] And so they started talking to gurus and they started doing psychedelics.

[929] And, I mean, that's the white album.

[930] And that's a lot of their later work that got really weird and like more artistic and experimental.

[931] mental.

[932] That was based on their, you know, trying to expand their consciousness and deal with this insane level of fame that they were at.

[933] But Elvis didn't have any of that.

[934] He just had the pills.

[935] Right.

[936] He would just take those pills and do karate.

[937] So he's doing karate and he did karate with the sunglasses on and he had the collared shirt on when he was doing karate.

[938] Look at this.

[939] And they would do demonstrations.

[940] Like, look at this.

[941] He's poking the eyes.

[942] Yeah.

[943] poking the neck and they would punch him and he would just don't go to work on the cane and so he would do this and he was trained by a legit guy Ed Parker who is like look at that these are terrible kicks bro that's terrible that's like me if I was fucking around if I was drunk pretending I did know karate that would look better than that that would be like me doing it but it's like the difference between like a legitimate black belt of 2022 and a legitimate black belt of, you know, 1971 is very different too.

[944] Like the level of martial arts is much, much higher now.

[945] But at the time, like Ed Parker was the Dawn and Elvis trained under Ed Parker.

[946] And there's like these demonstrations where like three or four guys were like pressing on Elvis's neck and he like walks towards him and they all fall down to the ground.

[947] And it's crazy.

[948] And he's sweaty because he's peeled up.

[949] He's like, man, it was amazing, right?

[950] It's amazing.

[951] They're all like falling down on the ground they weren't really no but there's a lot of those have you ever seen those you ever go to like a mcdojo or what is it no but i got a new rabbit hole to go down now mcdojo life yeah mcdojo life on instagram is this dude who uh puts up all of these fake martial arts videos all of his instagram feed is just there's so many of them out there man where guys like pretend like they're going to go attack you and just you like you do like your cheap power and they follow the ground but they're being serious like they really are pretending that it's really happening yeah and they're everywhere yeah Elvis was involved in that power of belief I guess right until you get in there with a wrestler who wants to shoot at the body and then that just changes everything they change everything really because they just tackle you yeah yeah they just tackle it when you go like that you get into your stance and all that shit they just shoot any any real martial artist like the real moitai guy would just kick your fucking legs out from under you try to do that cheap bullshit but there's a lot of people that believe that stuff they believe in that cheat touch, in that, you know, harnessing your inner energy.

[952] I've had people have conversations with me about it.

[953] I'm like, okay, okay, you think that's real?

[954] Why doesn't someone use in the UFC?

[955] You're like, it'd be too dangerous or too deadly.

[956] Also, it's not something that you would do for entertainment purposes.

[957] It's spiritual, it's like, okay, yeah.

[958] Show me one guy.

[959] Show me one guy that can do that against a trained martial artist just to prove its efficacy.

[960] Yeah, it doesn't exist.

[961] Yeah, because the MMA is like the, that's where the truth is, That's where the rubber hits the road.

[962] That's where the rubber hits the road, as they say.

[963] That's the real deal.

[964] Like you have an offer.

[965] Come show us how it works.

[966] We found out everything about what was bullshit in martial arts in 1993 when Hoyce Gracie who weighed 175 pounds strangled everybody.

[967] Yeah.

[968] And we're like, oh, look that.

[969] He did it fully clothed too.

[970] He wore his whole thing.

[971] Fucked everybody up in a jujitsu kimono.

[972] And when they could headbutt him too, right?

[973] They could poke him.

[974] They could fucking pull his hair.

[975] They could kick him in the nuts.

[976] Against some guys who were.

[977] probably taking roids too all of them so many of them were taking boards and if you saw hoist without a shirt on me he looks very fit but he was thin he was 175 pounds so he's 20 pounds less than me right and he's fighting against these giant dudes like huge wrestlers and huge sumo guys and all these fucking karate guys and he fucked everybody up and he he preferred if you were on top of him in in an advantageous position okay take me down yeah that's where he did He has no idea.

[978] Yeah, you have no idea what's happening here.

[979] And he used to take some head butts, too, like those...

[980] Oh, my God, the chemo fight, that was a crazy fight, because that was a perfect example of a gigantic, roided up dude, and hoist just fucking dragged him in a deep water and eventually armbard him.

[981] Yeah.

[982] I love the idea of that, like a dude who looks like he could be behind a counter of, like, a guitar world, could just fucking choke you out.

[983] He looks like a chef.

[984] Yeah, especially with the white d 'i, yeah.

[985] How would you like your steak, cool?

[986] Yeah, nobody looks more like a chef, though, than Tom Segura and Berg Kreischer.

[987] Every time I see a clip of their videos, if you put it on mute, it just looks like two chefs talk and shop.

[988] Oh, yeah.

[989] Those dudes got chef faces.

[990] Yeah, Bert has that chef who likes to party look.

[991] Yeah, he always, he just, I just imagine he has crocs on when I see him.

[992] I bet he definitely has flip flops on.

[993] For sure, flip flops.

[994] He wears flip flops in the winter.

[995] Yeah.

[996] It could be fucking Wisconsin in the winter, Bert's out there with flip flops on.

[997] People from Florida take it.

[998] Florida with him Florida he's a different kind of dude man he's just built different I've never seen a man drink as much as Bert on a regular basis like Tom and I were actually having a conversation about a couple days ago because I was a little worried because I'm watching these clips of Bert and I'm like him how big is he now and he's like he's 260 he goes he comes over my house we're gonna do a pod because you know they do a podcast and Tom has a studio out here in Austin so Bert flies in they do two bears one cave like they do it I think he flies in once a month and they they film like four or five of them.

[999] He goes, Bert stays in my house.

[1000] He goes, 10 o 'clock in the morning, he starts drinking.

[1001] He's doing shots.

[1002] He goes, he's drinking.

[1003] He's making margaritas.

[1004] I'm like, what?

[1005] He goes, he's drinking.

[1006] He goes, he's drinking all day.

[1007] He eats like a maniac.

[1008] He goes, I've never seen anything like it.

[1009] He goes, there's no restraint.

[1010] He has no restraint in, like, what he eats and what he wants to eat.

[1011] He just shoves it all in his mouth, and he tries to work out and work it off as much as he can, but he's a fucking animal.

[1012] He's an animal.

[1013] For a guy, if those are, if that's what he consumes, he looks pretty good considering.

[1014] No one can do it.

[1015] No one else can do it.

[1016] His, whatever his furnace is, that Bert, look at it.

[1017] Play this.

[1018] What is he saying?

[1019] What is on his head?

[1020] Oh, that's on the TV.

[1021] Play it anyway.

[1022] We'll give him some promotion.

[1023] Hold a comedy, what with violence and jokes.

[1024] I just want to make sure everyone knows that at my show at the Greek in Los Angeles.

[1025] No, but he's the master of, No jokes made about anyone's family other than my own.

[1026] Wait a minute, I got a great joke about your wife being a whore.

[1027] Let me hear it.

[1028] Hold on, she's not done.

[1029] Mark Norman will also be performing with me May 5th at the Greek.

[1030] You got that right.

[1031] It's a family affair.

[1032] I got a great joke about your wife being a whore.

[1033] Look at that guy.

[1034] Wait a minute, I got a great joke about your wife being a whore.

[1035] She blew me yesterday.

[1036] Perfect.

[1037] I got a great joke by your wife being a whore.

[1038] They got Will Smith and a loop in the background smacking Chris Rock.

[1039] That's a great show.

[1040] Go to see it.

[1041] Yeah, those two dudes are beasts.

[1042] May 5th, the Greek in Los Angeles, California.

[1043] He's an animal, man. He's a master of promoting his shows.

[1044] Oh, he's dedicated.

[1045] He does drone footage and shit.

[1046] Yeah.

[1047] Takes off his shirt for every one of them.

[1048] I did his podcast recently, and I was staying at Whitney Cummings House, and he gave me a seminary.

[1049] He was like, he's like, over there.

[1050] you know I was over there and he was like you know it'd be great he's like I'd love to see you use her house when she's not there and then plug you dates he's like getting her getting her bed yeah getting her bathtub you know your dogs in the bed with you yeah bring the dogs in dude I broke up a wicked dog fight at Whitney's house oh she's got those rescue dogs man dude it was bloody if I wasn't there it would have been bad they well she gets bit sometimes herself she got her ear bitten off she's got a lot yeah she's got bites all over yeah she had to get her ear put back on Whitney did yeah wow dog bitter fucking ear off yeah she's dedicated to those dogs she gets these rescue dogs and the dog didn't even mean to just nipped at her a little bit like it would a dog yeah you know because a lot of them are not they're not domesticated really that well yeah and just you know if dogs don't like each other just it is what it is it's hard to make them like each other she gets a bunch of pit bulls too yeah and I used to have pit bulls and the I love pit bulls I love them But they're not crazy about other dogs It's got to be They are not Not happy with other dogs It's bread Especially if other dogs talk shit Yeah It's like Mike Tyson in his prime They're like what the fuck did you just say Like they're ready to go to the death Right away And little dogs always talk shit Because that's what they got Because I feel bad for little That we bred them that little It's like that thing is still a wolf And has no idea how small it is And it sees another dog And it just wants to go And they're also a little insecure They're like the Joe Pesci of dogs And then fucking Well the thing Let's rip them up.

[1051] Pits is that they were bred for it.

[1052] They were literally bred for fighting.

[1053] So it's like there's genetics.

[1054] Genetics are interesting because I wonder how much of genetics are behavioral.

[1055] Because we think of genetics as only being like your physical characteristics and your tendency towards diseases and this and that.

[1056] And like, oh, your family's from Greece and these are the genetics.

[1057] But there's something that's passed on between parents that's mental.

[1058] Like there's something about mindset.

[1059] and like dogs for instance somehow or another dogs like you've met Marshall who's here today my dog like that dog the genetics of that dog is like this loving family dog who's so kind and so obedient and listens like if I tell him hey man come here like I could talk to him like a person dude do me a favor sit and he'll sit and I'll go you're such a good boy and he'll start wagging his tail and he'll come over I'll just lie down man I'm trying to do a show and he'll lie down and he'll just hang out like you could talk to him but i've had other dogs he'd be like fuck you yeah i'm not doing that like i'm i'm a wolf i'm out here wandering like you can't teach wolf shit do you know that yeah i had a friend who had a wolf he had three wolves as a pet he had wolf he had wolf dogs they're like part dog part wolf but mostly wolf no they're legal you can i don't think you can have a wolf dog can you he had them yeah he had three of them i mean this was early 2000s so you know 2001 2000s okay it was before me too so it was totally fine But those dogs aren't, they're not dogs, man, they're wolves.

[1060] They don't listen to shit.

[1061] I go, are they trained?

[1062] No. Okay, it's illegal to own a pure wolf.

[1063] They're classified as an endangered and regulated species while it's legal to own a 98, 98 % two percent wolf dog federally.

[1064] Many states, counties, and cities are outlawing all wolves and wolf dogs.

[1065] Any wolf or wolf dog found within these areas is immediately killed.

[1066] Yeah, I mean, they're, you know, You know, they're wolf.

[1067] They got wolf in there.

[1068] Yeah, if you have a 98 % wolf dog, you got a wolf, and that thing doesn't listen.

[1069] They don't listen.

[1070] And his dogs would get out, and one time they got out, and they went into, he lived on a ranch, and they went into the neighbor's ranch and slaughtered, like, I don't know, seven or eight sheep.

[1071] Wolfs be wolfing.

[1072] Yeah.

[1073] That's what they do.

[1074] That's what they do.

[1075] Dictators be dictatoring, and wolves be wolfing.

[1076] They couldn't help themselves.

[1077] Yeah.

[1078] Like, that's what they do.

[1079] Like, some dogs like to chase a ball.

[1080] wolves like to kill sheep They like to kill sheep They love it They're passionate about it They were covered in blood And they came back to his house He was like oh fucking Christ Yeah But you couldn't teach his shit Good time for them He was all upset And they were like what dude We were just partying We had a great time Yeah party It'd be like us swat mosquitoes Yeah just fun for them Normal That's what they do I can't believe sometimes When I look at like a Chihuahua Whatever it I imagine that that thing Shares like What is it?

[1081] 98 or 99 % of the same DNA as a wolf, that a wolf and that thing could fuck and make a dog is wild.

[1082] If you look at a male feminist and realize their ancestors were probably Vikings.

[1083] It's the same thing.

[1084] That's actually, that's a great analogy.

[1085] It's the same thing.

[1086] That's what's happening to men in this country.

[1087] They're being converted into pugs.

[1088] Yeah.

[1089] Is that a bit?

[1090] No, but it's really what it is.

[1091] That's real funny, though.

[1092] Because they all used to be.

[1093] wolves.

[1094] Every dog used to be a wolf.

[1095] Dude, that's a great bit.

[1096] I'm just saying that is a great bit.

[1097] But that is what's happening.

[1098] Yeah.

[1099] Right?

[1100] If you see certain men.

[1101] And it's also happening because of plastics in the water.

[1102] You know, I know Chris DeStefano was talking about this recently on his Instagram, but he's, he was incorrect about it.

[1103] He was saying that it makes you more, you have a more of a chance of getting cancer.

[1104] It's not that.

[1105] It's, um, he was talking about taints being smaller.

[1106] And this is a woman in Dr. Shanna Swan.

[1107] And what they found is that phallates.

[1108] which are a particular residue from plastics.

[1109] It's a chemical that comes from all of the petrochemical products that we use, plastics and things you microwave in and things you keep water in, they all leak thalates.

[1110] And these thalates, when applied to mammals, they've done these studies where they show that there's a direct correlation between thalates in their bloodstream and babies being born with smaller taints.

[1111] Is it true?

[1112] Yes, it is true.

[1113] True.

[1114] So it's the distance between your dick and your asshole.

[1115] In males, in mammals, it's one of the best ways to recognize whether a mammal is a male or a female.

[1116] Because you know, sometimes people see like hamsters or a puppy, it's hard to tell if it's a boy or a girl.

[1117] You've got to look at it real close, especially if it's a furry one.

[1118] The best way to tell is the taints, because taints and males are 50 to 100 % larger than taints on females.

[1119] But because of exposure to thalates, the taints are growing smaller and smaller.

[1120] The penis sizes are growing smaller and smaller.

[1121] Testicle sizes are growing smaller and smaller.

[1122] Sperm counts are dropping.

[1123] Fertility rates are dropping rapidly.

[1124] And it all has to do with plastic, which is a part of the modern world.

[1125] So just like the modern world of like throwing meat to these wolves and getting closer to the campfire led to the domestication of the wolf, which led to them slowly getting turned into collies, that's what's happening to humans.

[1126] We are literally not just because of our environment and our society and the, the, the, cushy nature of our existence in 2022, but also the introduction of petrochemical products is a direct correlation.

[1127] And this woman, Dr. Shanna Swanch, has his book called Countdown.

[1128] It's fucking terrifying.

[1129] Because she's basically saying that this data wasn't even really uncovered until was it like 2015, Jamie?

[1130] Yeah, it's new.

[1131] It's for sure new.

[1132] Very new.

[1133] This story I saw the other day.

[1134] Microplastics have been found in air, water, food, and now human blood.

[1135] Well, yeah, that's that's the thallates and it's also um plastics and also um different pesticides and different farming chemicals Mike wow scientists tested the blood of 22 anonymous donors and found microplastics in 80 % of them this is wild shit man because it's it's literally changing the hormonal profile and the reproductive systems of human beings yeah and making us weaker but we it's kind of pick your poison though right because like the The modern world makes you live longer, but...

[1136] Sort of, but you live like a bitch.

[1137] You live like a bitch, yeah.

[1138] Previous research had found we inhale and ingest enough microplastic pieces of plastic to create a credit card each week.

[1139] Holy shit.

[1140] But until now, scientists didn't know whether in those particles were entering the bloodstream.

[1141] Ingest enough microscopic pieces of plastic to create a credit card each week.

[1142] Yeah.

[1143] Holy fuck, man. Yeah.

[1144] It's a lot.

[1145] Holy fuck.

[1146] I clicked the thing.

[1147] It says there's about 2 ,000 tiny pieces of plastic each week that, equal the weight of a credit card.

[1148] But where's it coming from?

[1149] Most of it's coming.

[1150] It says making their way into our food, drinking water, and even air.

[1151] But it says it's on CNN.

[1152] They might be lying.

[1153] Do you shit it out or is it like becoming part of your body and is toxic?

[1154] No, it becomes part of your blood.

[1155] It gets in your bloodstream.

[1156] Brutal.

[1157] Well, this is the awareness of Michael Plastics and their impact of the environment is increasing.

[1158] This study has helped provide an accurate calculation of ingestion rates for the first time.

[1159] So pull up that woman's book, Dr. Shannon Swan.

[1160] I recommend everybody.

[1161] If you don't want to buy her book or get her audio book, please at least listen to her on the podcast because it's fucking wild.

[1162] So it's when she details the impact, the direct correlation between the invention of these petrochemical products and where we're at right now in terms of like sperm rates, taint sizes, testicle sizes, penis sizes.

[1163] And with women, it's miscarriage rates and rates of fertility.

[1164] Everything is getting affected by these plastics to the point where you know she's like you shouldn't use any of that stuff don't drink out of plastic bottles all that it's wild shit man it makes sense like it does make sense but it's it's terrifying that we didn't know about it until seven years ago yeah well that's what it seems like capitalism pushes something forward because it's uh cheap and efficient and it serves the bottom line and then we find out about the consequences like later because yeah the consequences are often inconvenience to the bottom line yeah And they try to suppress it for as long as possible.

[1165] Is there a way even to live without plastic in this age without completely revamping the entire society?

[1166] And that would probably take 100 years.

[1167] Don't they do, like, recyclable plastic?

[1168] They know how to make plastic out of potatoes and things like that now.

[1169] I don't know if it's specifically potatoes, but sometimes you'll see, like, this plastic was made from something.

[1170] I don't understand it.

[1171] It's egghead shit, but...

[1172] I don't know if they still use petrochemical products and making it out of potatoes.

[1173] I would imagine they do.

[1174] because they have machines.

[1175] Maybe it just doesn't get into the actual product, but, like, I know they can make hemp plastic.

[1176] Yeah.

[1177] And hemp plastic is actually biodegradable.

[1178] Yeah.

[1179] There's a lot of shit they can make off a hemp.

[1180] Hemp is a alien plant.

[1181] It's probably, like, just has to do with if it costs more or not, and then plastic is probably the cheaper way.

[1182] Well, we've been doing it this way for so long.

[1183] When do they start using plastics for, like, food and containers and shit?

[1184] It was probably like the 1950s.

[1185] Probably.

[1186] Good guess.

[1187] Yeah, when was like...

[1188] That's when all, like...

[1189] Remember when styrofoam was the big thing in the 80s?

[1190] And they were like, that shit's never going to end up out of the landfills.

[1191] We've got to stop using styrofoam.

[1192] Yeah.

[1193] Well, think about how many times you drank coffee out of a styrofoam cup.

[1194] Yeah.

[1195] You have hot liquid in that cup, for sure.

[1196] Some of that plastic is getting into your body.

[1197] Large -scale plastic production began in the early 50s.

[1198] There you go.

[1199] Good call, man. Yeah.

[1200] So from that, I probably remembered it.

[1201] But from then to now, you're talking about...

[1202] 70 -ish years, and in those 70 -ish years, most of what we use needs plastic.

[1203] Everything has plastic on it.

[1204] Here's the did you know fact on it.

[1205] It's a lot of plastic.

[1206] Humanists have produced 18 .2 trillion pounds of plastic, the equivalent of one billion elephants.

[1207] Since large -scale plastic production began in the early 1950s, nearly 80 % of that plastic is now in landfills.

[1208] Holy fuck.

[1209] By 2050, another 26 .5 trillion pounds will be a pretty much.

[1210] produce worldwide.

[1211] Plastic flowing in the world's oceans, rivers, and lakes will increase from 11 million metric tons in 2016 to 29 million metric tons annually in 2040, the equivalent of dumping 70 pounds of plastic waste along every foot of the world's coastline, according to the research from the Pew Charitable Trusts.

[1212] You can eat or breathe in about 2 ,000 tiny plastic particles each week.

[1213] My God.

[1214] Most are ingested from body.

[1215] bottled water and tap water.

[1216] Whoa, tap water is plastic?

[1217] Why is tap water?

[1218] I don't know.

[1219] But the crazy thing is like, this is like radically affecting our biology, and we didn't even know about it.

[1220] When that lady was on this podcast, I read the synopsis of her book, and I was like, wow, that would be interesting.

[1221] It was terrifying.

[1222] Like, I thought, like, what she was going to say was, I had no idea it was going to be that nuts.

[1223] That is crazy.

[1224] And that it was about taints.

[1225] And your taint is a great measure.

[1226] of like where you know how much thallates you were you came in contact with when you're in the womb if we keep going will they collide yeah it'd be a quakel yeah like a duck you'll just have like uh it'll be easier to fuck yourself i guess yeah sad yeah it's not good but that's i mean if you look at all the shit that's going on today we're like we need to save the taints movement to get this awareness that's I would like to look at Russian taints.

[1227] They're probably very long.

[1228] So the more masculine you are, the bigger your taint, essentially.

[1229] I don't know if that's the case, but it's a direct relationship to the exposure of thallies that it gets smaller.

[1230] I don't know if, like, you have a super long taint.

[1231] It's, like, more masculine.

[1232] But on average, male mammals have 50 % to 100 % larger taint than the female mammals.

[1233] Is there a correlation between dick's size and masculinity?

[1234] I would imagine there has to be.

[1235] Right?

[1236] I mean, we think of it that way.

[1237] way, right?

[1238] You think of like a masculine man having a big dick, yeah.

[1239] Right?

[1240] Yeah.

[1241] I don't know.

[1242] I'm, I'm just hoping there's not.

[1243] And the ancient Greeks that doesn't say much about what they were doing.

[1244] Well, you know, if you look at like the ancient Roman statues, they would make tiny dicks small on purpose because they felt like big dicks were like crude.

[1245] How did that happen?

[1246] How did that happen?

[1247] Some little dick dude made sculptures.

[1248] Telling you, man, you can, with a little charisma, you can get people to believe anything.

[1249] There was a vice article recently about how little dicks are making a comeback.

[1250] Like, what the fuck does that mean?

[1251] I'm on board.

[1252] According to who.

[1253] But that's another one of those clicky articles, those clickbait articles.

[1254] I think at this point it's safe to say there's too many journalists.

[1255] There's too many quote -unquote journalists.

[1256] Air quotes.

[1257] I saw this article about how some movie, what was it, the one with Sharon Stone, what was it, basic instinct.

[1258] It was an article now about how it was problematic back then.

[1259] and you could just see the ratio in the comments, people going like, shut the fuck up.

[1260] Like, maybe there's just too many of you guys at this point.

[1261] Like, this is not a story.

[1262] It's not just journalists.

[1263] It's the journalists that also consider themselves activists, like they're shaping culture and society with their writing and musings and that they're trying to push a narrative in that, you know, ultra -progressive, woke narrative.

[1264] They just, they won't stop with it.

[1265] They won't.

[1266] And I sent you that thing, Jamie, about the Will Smith thing that's in The Independent.

[1267] I sent it to the text message.

[1268] You showed it before the pod, yeah.

[1269] Yeah, Jimmy Dorr sent this to me. It's like, what the fuck are you even saying here?

[1270] It says, white outrage about Will Smith's slap is rooted in anti -blackness.

[1271] It's inequality in plain sight.

[1272] What?

[1273] And it's in the Guardian.

[1274] It's kind of depressing.

[1275] They just get sucked into wokeness, man. Yeah, it's just kind of like.

[1276] Performative pearl clutching.

[1277] Hey, no. That was violence.

[1278] If you think violence is cool, you need to tell me where that line ends.

[1279] Is it just slapping?

[1280] Can I kick someone in the face if I don't like what they say?

[1281] Like where does that end?

[1282] You just knew that this incident that was between two guys.

[1283] Also, they happen to both be African American.

[1284] At some point, they would be articles blaming white supremacy.

[1285] You're like, dude, I'm almost impressed by the leap in logic Where you're going like, dude, hats off Yeah, it's impressive That you're even going for it Well, it took a solid 48 hours for someone to concoct that Like they had to sit there You ever see that fucking There's a meme of a woman There's all these like calculations in the background She's trying to like ponder something That doesn't make sense You seen those?

[1286] That's them sitting there Like trying to figure out how to put this And make it white supremacy It's inequality in plain sight What the fuck are you saying?

[1287] The good thing about this is that it's getting so ridiculous now that I think a lot of people who are just like...

[1288] Casuals.

[1289] Casuals are starting to go like, all right, we're starting to see a lot of people's point that this is sort of...

[1290] It's out of control.

[1291] It's out of control.

[1292] Wouldn't you love if we had that guy on the podcast with us?

[1293] Please map this out for us.

[1294] Just you and me and that guy.

[1295] I want to see your astounding logic.

[1296] You'd be like, all right.

[1297] All right.

[1298] Now, you're going to have to use your imagination a little bit.

[1299] Pearl clutching.

[1300] Here's how it is.

[1301] Pearl clutching.

[1302] It happened in America.

[1303] Yeah.

[1304] And there's racism in the history of America.

[1305] It's rooted in racism.

[1306] America is founded on racism.

[1307] So if it happened in America and it's on television, which is racist.

[1308] Racist, yeah.

[1309] Yeah.

[1310] And the Academy Awards, which is Academy, oh, so white.

[1311] Yes.

[1312] Oscar's also white.

[1313] Yeah.

[1314] I always find the people who are lying always say the most irrelevant things.

[1315] And that's how you know they're lying.

[1316] It's just a bunch of irrelevant information around what's germane to what happened.

[1317] You know, that's how I, that's my bullshit detector.

[1318] I'm going like, you're speaking a lot about a lot of a tangential irrelevant shit.

[1319] You're full of shit.

[1320] Well, it's like one of those charts where it's like you're trying to get to the center.

[1321] The center is white racism.

[1322] And you start off with here, black man slaps other black man over a joke about a woman.

[1323] You know, misogyny is rooted in white supremacy.

[1324] Okay, let's go to that.

[1325] Outrage is on television, which is racist.

[1326] And it's all racism.

[1327] Somehow it finds its way back to old reliable.

[1328] Yeah, you can't let people just go around slapping people.

[1329] And you just, you just, that is, whether you think it's violence or not, it's violence.

[1330] It's violence.

[1331] It's violence.

[1332] It was violence that happened on TV.

[1333] Yeah.

[1334] It was violent.

[1335] I think comedians should stop hosting the Oscars.

[1336] So they just tank, because it's the only redeemable quality about that circle jerk.

[1337] Yeah.

[1338] The only reason why anyone tunes in is to hear Ricky Jervais or whatever, just, you know, bring it down to earth and have some fun with it.

[1339] Because otherwise, we're just sitting there watching the most boring, fake award show where studios pay for those awards.

[1340] Did they really win?

[1341] It's a matter of taste.

[1342] They don't even have a comedy category.

[1343] Go fuck yourself.

[1344] Yeah, go fuck yourself.

[1345] Well, can they even have a comedy?

[1346] category anymore.

[1347] We were talking about this the other day.

[1348] We were talking about all the great comedy movies, like stepbrothers and, you know, there's so many great movies.

[1349] Like, could you make that movie today?

[1350] You could not.

[1351] You couldn't make the office today.

[1352] No. I've read articles about friends being problematic.

[1353] I've read articles about everything being problematic.

[1354] You couldn't do anything today.

[1355] I think stand -up comedy and maybe even more so memes on the internet is the last bastion of comedy in this crazy era because memes one of the beautiful things about memes is they're not credited so you have no idea who made this hilarious meme and they just sent it out there and it's out there in the world yeah that's how you know you're living at a crazy time like that like mark twain had a pet you know was not his real name it was a pen name right a lot of people back then had pen names because they wanted to they were saying things that were sort of uh not accepted at the time and they didn't want the backlash so we're and that was a time when there was like slavery which is as backwards as you can get we're getting into a backwards time now if you want to say something true or make a real joke, you're going to have to hide behind some sort of anonymity.

[1356] It's getting bad.

[1357] It's getting weird.

[1358] It is getting weird.

[1359] It's getting really weird.

[1360] It's getting weird, but there's a lot of pushback now.

[1361] Like you saw the pushback with Chappelle where people like, no, no, no, fuck you.

[1362] Because like if the difference between the Chappelle thing with his last special was the best example of it, in my opinion, because you saw the difference between the way critics rated his performance.

[1363] So when they had the critics rating on Rotten Tomatoes, it was like, everybody hated it.

[1364] It was like 3 % on Rotten Tomatoes, and then the public rated it, and it was like 98%.

[1365] So I was like, okay, well, obviously, there's some sort of a divide.

[1366] There's a huge disconnect happening here.

[1367] Because the people that watched it, loved it, and the people that rated it because they rated it for these publications that are essentially run by activists, they decided didn't fit the narrative, and they hated it, and they said it was problematic.

[1368] It's crazy.

[1369] The disconnect is crazy.

[1370] And now with, like, Leah Thomas, you see how the people are like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, okay, this is getting crazy.

[1371] But the establishment is still going like, hey, this is fine, this is great.

[1372] What if Leah Thomas is just going undercover, like, 21 Jump Street?

[1373] To crack wholeness?

[1374] To just, or just doing some sort of gender research or to crack a corner.

[1375] Like, maybe it's like 21 Jump Street.

[1376] She's just going undercover as a woman to get, like, maybe there's some, you know, huge corruption going on in collegiate swimming and female cohesion swimming and she's just getting in there that would be good but what it is now is not good what it is now is assault on women's sports and the idea that anybody would think it's fair that someone who is number 462 as a man 4662 in the nation is number one as a woman a year later yeah and that's fair you don't think maybe it was her passion for swimming that got her to number one could be it's just an amazing woman or a change in diet could Could be.

[1377] Could be.

[1378] Maybe just becoming her true self.

[1379] I can't think of any other factor it could be.

[1380] I'm just going passion for swimming.

[1381] Maybe.

[1382] You're probably right.

[1383] But it's, that might be the woke straw that breaks society's camel back.

[1384] You're starting to see a lot of those now.

[1385] People are, women are so frustrated because if you, or parents, if your daughter is competing and they're competing against a trans woman, it's not fair.

[1386] It's just not fair.

[1387] No matter what anybody says.

[1388] There's this nonsense.

[1389] idea of like, well, there's outliers.

[1390] There's outliers, and then there's biological males.

[1391] Right.

[1392] That's beyond outliers.

[1393] There's always exceptions.

[1394] The ancient Greeks, you say there's no rule without an exception, but you can't define what it is based on the exceptions.

[1395] Well, it's interesting because in all other aspects of society, it's pretty much a given that, you know, a person can become trans and change their name, and we're all pretty accepting of it.

[1396] where people have the most pushback is in sports.

[1397] Right.

[1398] Athletic competition.

[1399] That's where the real pushback is.

[1400] Right.

[1401] Where people are like, hey, the fuck.

[1402] Right.

[1403] This is not fair.

[1404] This is clearly not fair.

[1405] There's a reason why we have a distinction between men and women's sports.

[1406] And it's ironic because the people on that side usually always champion equality and nobody having an advantage and, you know, the people who are maybe disenfranchised.

[1407] or less capable, should have an equal opportunity.

[1408] And by throwing someone like Leah Thomas in there, you're kind of, that's the opposite of that.

[1409] I think it's also probably terrible for the whole trans movement because it makes people more cynical about what the positive aspects of it are, and it makes people more, you know, less likely to accept it because they think of now they think of trans people and trans rights and they connect it to this athletic thing.

[1410] That's a great point.

[1411] Yeah, that's a, yeah.

[1412] It's probably making people more just trustful or more upset or less accepting.

[1413] People just go too extreme.

[1414] I mean, it's just such an obvious thing.

[1415] The advantage that anyone who's born biologically male, especially someone who transitions after puberty.

[1416] I mean, it's so obvious.

[1417] Otherwise, you would see a bunch of trans men, you know, women transitioning into men, competing on a division one level or in the NBA or NFL, which you'll never see.

[1418] And we all know why you'll never see that.

[1419] It's because men are bigger and stronger.

[1420] So why does that rule apply to trans men and not to trans women?

[1421] It's the same.

[1422] It's their biological men by nature, bigger, stronger, faster.

[1423] There will never be a trans man that will beat O'Dell Beckham Jr. in a route race.

[1424] Not only that, like you can't compete as a trans man. you can't compete if you're taking exogenous testosterone.

[1425] Like, they test you for that stuff.

[1426] They do these carbon isotope tests where they can test to see if you're taking.

[1427] Because testosterone, if you're taking it synthetically, like, it's actually made out from wild yams, believe it or not.

[1428] Wow.

[1429] Yeah.

[1430] That's how they synthesize artificial or exogenous testosterone.

[1431] It's not artificial.

[1432] It's real.

[1433] It's just, it's synthetic.

[1434] So they wouldn't even let them compete?

[1435] No. You can't compete.

[1436] you take testosterone.

[1437] Well, they should let them.

[1438] That's why men, they used to have exemptions in the UFC for men to take testosterone if you had low testosterone.

[1439] It was a testosterone use exemption.

[1440] But the TRT problem was that guys were taking enormous amounts of it, and they were fucking men up.

[1441] There's a direct correlation between the amount of testosterone you have physical performance, your ability to recover quicker, and also aggression and confidence.

[1442] These guys were getting juice to the tits and go out there and fucking.

[1443] people up and so then they came along and they regulated it and they said no more testosterone replacement and so then you saw these guys physiques melt and this is when you saw it came along you saw it came along and started testing everybody first they abandoned the TRT they wouldn't let people have exemptions and then once they did that then you saw it came along and started testing everybody for everything and then physique's just melted well I don't think they you should be allowed I guess that's great for guys but I think they should allow training men to try to compete because that'll be just hilarious.

[1444] The problem is what if a trans man just decides to juice up like a fucking werewolf.

[1445] God bless her him.

[1446] I mean if there is a trans man who can compete in the NBA or NFL I'm rooting for him.

[1447] Could you match?

[1448] I'm rooting for him.

[1449] Imagine if you got a female WNBA player and you taught her martial arts and juiced her up and had her fuck Francis and Gano up.

[1450] I want to see it.

[1451] Could you imagine?

[1452] I can't imagine it's 22.

[1453] There's a lot that I can't imagine.

[1454] Their clits grow.

[1455] You know that right.

[1456] They grow like a little dick I'm listening yeah when you take a lot of testosterone yeah for and you're female your clitoris grows easier to find yeah yeah I guess more meat to suck on yeah but would you be cool with sucking on a thumb -sized clit I got no problem with it okay yeah I got no problem with it I'm Greek I'm halfway there yeah I'm not gay but if I went to prison I'm pretty good at it you're open it's in the DNA no yeah I mean I got No problem with that.

[1457] So, like, you, if you took massive amounts for a long period of time, which the thing is, like, they do have examples of that with female bodybuilders.

[1458] Like, female bodybuilders, and it wrecks their body.

[1459] Like, they get ovarian cysts and all sorts of real problems, and they have to take D .H .T. Blockers.

[1460] Like, it's horrible for them.

[1461] At the very least, we can all admit that modernity has kind of created a lot of gray zones in sports because of supplements.

[1462] And so it is, there are things to address, right, regardless of the trans issue.

[1463] It's kind of like what people are taking, what they're not taking, and what's fair and not fair.

[1464] That's why this exists in the first place, right?

[1465] Because there is no real balanced playing field because not everybody starts out the same way genetically.

[1466] Right.

[1467] Some people are just born better athletes than others.

[1468] Some people are born taller.

[1469] Some people are born, they can run faster.

[1470] Some people are born physically stronger.

[1471] And then you have to take into consideration where did you grow up?

[1472] Like, do you have access to better food?

[1473] Do you have access to better coaching?

[1474] You have access to better recovery methods.

[1475] When you start competing and then you have, if you've got money, then you have access to all sorts of things so that you can't afford if you're poor.

[1476] Like, is that at it, how much of an advantage is it to have great vitamin supplementation and great food and, you know, recovery methods and regular massage and all these different things that people that are elite athletes are, that have access to?

[1477] So what would you think there's a good?

[1478] you propose is a good way to regulate it.

[1479] For trans people?

[1480] Or no, just...

[1481] Just taking trans people out of the case.

[1482] Just athletics.

[1483] Like, how would you regulate everyone's levels and what would you make it legal or legal?

[1484] I think that the real problem is going to come along when gene therapy gets introduced to athletes and it's probably already being introduced on a foreign level.

[1485] In other countries where it's not regulated the way we regulate things here, I guarantee you they're experimenting with gene therapy on a variety of athletes.

[1486] I could guarantee it.

[1487] I guarantee they're doing that.

[1488] And when they start doing that, and there's things that they are capable of doing, like there's some examples like there's gene editing that would make you have, there's a thing called myostatin inhibitors.

[1489] And myostatin is what regulates the muscle size of the body.

[1490] And once they introduce myelstatin inhibitors into the genetics of athletes, you're going to get supercharged athletes who are built like the Hulk.

[1491] like you've ever seen those cows that have a gene error and they have a it's a myostatin inhibitor that's in their genetics and they have enormous muscles like because their muscles don't get the signals stop growing at a specific point they just keep growing like the best example is whippets you know that dog a whip it yeah they're like a real thin dog right well in a small percentage of whippets they're born with this unusual gene that doesn't regulate myostatin and so myostatin is uh this uh this myostatin inhibitor that they have as a gene allows them to grow like that wow yeah so they like have you know i don't know four or five times the fucking muscle that's in a cow so see if you can get an article that explains what that was so that's a real cow it's a female cow with massive muscles and that's myelstatins okay here it goes, myostatin's, what do they mean for your herd?

[1492] Let's see what it says there.

[1493] Wow.

[1494] But this is a thing that think they're going to be able to do with humans, and there have been some humans that were born with this very rare genetic disorder.

[1495] Okay, the most obvious departure from normal in the phenotype of a double -muscled animals, the enlargement of the muscle, particularly in the rump or shoulder areas.

[1496] Okay, myelstatin, no, go to the top.

[1497] Mylstatin is a gene mutation that results in unregulated muscle growth or double -musling most commonly seen in beef breeds, such as British blue and limousine.

[1498] There are nine variants of the mutation that occur in differing levels of different breeds.

[1499] So this is with cows, but they have observed it in certain humans, like certain humans where we're born.

[1500] Increase susceptibility to respiratory disease probably due to increased demands on aerobic metabolic activity, increased meat tenderness, and yield.

[1501] These mutations do not operate in isolation, but in.

[1502] interact with other genes in ways that are, as yet, poorly understood.

[1503] It is often the case that one copy of the variant while increasing muscle mass may not bring with it any of the negative side effects mentioned above.

[1504] So the thing about it is, if they can introduce that into a large population of wrestlers, I mean, whatever country has that would dominate wrestling.

[1505] If they had great technique and elite athletes, like great genetics, and then they introduced this, and they just, had unregulated muscle growth, so they were, like, far stronger than anyone else.

[1506] Far more athletic, far more explosive.

[1507] Literally the Hulk.

[1508] You can make Hulk people.

[1509] They would be built like the Hulk and the Avengers.

[1510] And then maybe AI may play a role in the future too, right?

[1511] Like, if they, I mean, imagine if the neural link goes in your brain, and then you can telepathically know what the defender is, and then you've got to turn off your neural link, like, and you know, ah, that guy was secretly using his neural link or whatever.

[1512] Right, right.

[1513] Yeah.

[1514] It's going to get wild.

[1515] Or you could also maybe download every wrestling move that was ever invented.

[1516] And instead of training and, you know, doing it for years and years and breaking it down, you know, so that it's a part of your instincts, you could get it so that it's literally dialed into your neurosystem from a download.

[1517] The future is wild.

[1518] Wild.

[1519] Wild.

[1520] Yeah.

[1521] I mean, we are cave people.

[1522] We just don't know it.

[1523] We're literally Neanderthals.

[1524] We're just primitive man. We just think we're advanced because we have cell phones.

[1525] But we are still trapped in this monkey body.

[1526] This biologically similar monkey body to people who lived 10 ,000 years ago.

[1527] But 10 ,000 years from now, I think this body is going to be unrecognizable.

[1528] I think we are going to be freaks.

[1529] I think this, because you're not going to stop people from doing this in other countries.

[1530] And if we want to compete with them, if there's an athletic proving ground like the Olympics where countries are going to send their best and their brightest to compete against other countries to show national superiority, you're going to have people using these genetic editing tools and then everything else that gets invented that shows peak performance and shows that you can, you know, accelerate people past what the physical limitations of the normal human body are.

[1531] Could probably even be an advantage in comedy.

[1532] Oh, fuck yeah Dudes are just downloading stuff Oh yeah Yeah And you'd be smarter Like you'd know Like what really triggers people Yeah Once an AI comes along They can write great jokes Oh god Yeah We're fucked We're fucked I don't follow that dude Is that robot there tonight I'm not coming down But here's the thing Like could an AI ever recreate a Mitch Headberg Right Because Mitch Headberg's jokes Like even on paper They don't make sense They only make sense Coming out of him Yeah I don't think I think I don't think I don't think AI will be able to be as creative as humans because AI will never be able to enjoy drugs.

[1533] Drugs attribute, you can attribute a lot of creativity to drugs.

[1534] Yeah.

[1535] Will AI be able to like get high and just like think about shit?

[1536] Well maybe we, maybe AI can figure out what is the pathway that is traveled on in order for a drug to work?

[1537] Like what is the thought process?

[1538] Because AI is basically psychopaths.

[1539] Kind of, right?

[1540] Because they don't have emotions.

[1541] They don't have emotions around.

[1542] They're basically psychopaths.

[1543] They'll be able to do everything well, but they won't have that little magic that comes from our vulnerability and our insecurities that makes great art. Well, the thing about people like us, we grew up without the internet.

[1544] Yeah.

[1545] You know, when we were kids, we didn't have an iPad.

[1546] We didn't have an iPhone.

[1547] When you went to school, you couldn't just Google the homework and Google the, you know, the information and get the answers.

[1548] You had to read books.

[1549] You had to learn.

[1550] You had to talk to your friends.

[1551] You had to call them up.

[1552] I remember when they first came up with answer machines.

[1553] It was wild.

[1554] He'd call somebody.

[1555] Yeah.

[1556] He'd leave a message.

[1557] Yeah.

[1558] And you would come home and you see that little red light flash.

[1559] You'd like, wow, somebody likes me. You'd press up a button.

[1560] And I go, hey, Joe, it's Janus.

[1561] You want to play later?

[1562] You get real disappointed if it was like, this is AT &T.

[1563] You're like, oh, I thought it was a friend.

[1564] Fuck off.

[1565] And then remember when you had caller ID.

[1566] Oh, yeah.

[1567] Caller ID came on.

[1568] You knew who was calling.

[1569] Then you started not picking up.

[1570] fucking guy.

[1571] Yeah.

[1572] Yeah.

[1573] That's what maybe when we first started isolating was caller ID.

[1574] People started maybe starting to withdraw more and more and more.

[1575] Or you get to be more selective, not talk to idiots.

[1576] Yeah.

[1577] See someone calling you like, yikes.

[1578] There was something cool about not knowing who it was, though.

[1579] Like a little surprise?

[1580] You know what the cool thing was the risky thing?

[1581] When you're calling and you had call, the beep that would come in, hold on, someone else's calling.

[1582] Yeah.

[1583] You had to take a chance.

[1584] Do you remember when you would, I don't know if you ever did this, but like if you were trying to get information from someone you had someone on the phone with the three -way and they didn't know the other person was there people did that a lot oh yeah yeah and it was silently listening you could do that with three -way when you could conference calling started oh yeah that's a sneaky movie yeah i never did that i did you do that in high school it happened someone was talking shit about somebody was talking shit be like i'm gonna put you out of phone you were gang it up on somebody be like gotcha bitch uh yeah yeah all that stuff and then i remember the first phone i had i had a phone in my car in the 80s.

[1585] Wow.

[1586] You're making money like that in the 80s.

[1587] No, I barely could afford it.

[1588] Yeah.

[1589] It wasn't really, it really shouldn't have had it.

[1590] But it did come into handy because I would get gigs because, like, Bill Blumenwright talks about it to this day.

[1591] You know, Bill Brummanwright, who owns a Wiltern in theater in Boston.

[1592] I know that.

[1593] I've known him forever.

[1594] And he goes, back in the 80s, you were the first guy to have a phone.

[1595] I could call you up and get you gigs.

[1596] Yeah.

[1597] Because, like, I'd be on the road.

[1598] if somebody canceled, like they got a flat tire, they got in a car accident, they couldn't make it.

[1599] He would be able to call me up and give me a gig.

[1600] And it happened like multiple times.

[1601] Was it like the size of a shoe?

[1602] It was connected to the car.

[1603] Yeah.

[1604] Because it was in the car.

[1605] It was like sitting in between the seats and you pick it up and talk on it.

[1606] Yeah.

[1607] Was the reception good and everything?

[1608] It was terrible.

[1609] It was terrible.

[1610] Yeah.

[1611] It was super expensive too.

[1612] Like if you were roaming, like if you drove, still in Massachusetts, you drove to a different part of the state, you got hit with roaming charges.

[1613] It was like a buck or something.

[1614] a minute or something crazy.

[1615] Yeah, I remember those days when, like, you couldn't call anyone in a different state because you get nailed in prices.

[1616] Well, you remember when they had long distance rates?

[1617] Yeah.

[1618] You would call someone in New York if you were living in California.

[1619] It was like, you could only talk for so long because it was fucking expensive.

[1620] Yeah, no. If you had a family member who went to California, New York, you just hoped they were okay.

[1621] Yeah.

[1622] You couldn't call and check on them.

[1623] If you, you know, unless you really love somebody, you were going to check on them.

[1624] If you didn't, you were like, you know You would actually monetize how much you would actually monetize how much you cared about them to call California.

[1625] You'd be like, is checking up on them worth $3 .99 a minute?

[1626] Yeah, it's not.

[1627] Yeah, so you'd send them a letter.

[1628] Yeah, I said a letter.

[1629] Are you good or things good?

[1630] Which is still the most amazing bargain that you can put a 25 cent stamp or whatever it was at the time.

[1631] And you would send a letter across the whole country.

[1632] Yeah.

[1633] Someone would deliver it for you.

[1634] Yeah.

[1635] Bring it to a guy in New Hampshire.

[1636] Yeah.

[1637] Yeah, that system was around for a while.

[1638] The post office is kind of fucking amazing.

[1639] Yeah.

[1640] The fact that that has existed for so long, you could just send things in the mail.

[1641] But now email is even more amazing.

[1642] Way better.

[1643] And what you're basically saying is that's going to happen in sports and everything else.

[1644] Like you're going to look at an athlete, but that dude's kind of like the post office now because this dude's got the neurolinking, he's taking this supplement, and can't compete anymore.

[1645] Well, once genetic editing comes into place, there's going to be no more exceptions.

[1646] you know, in the beginning, the problem is the haves and the have -nots would be further divided than they've ever been before.

[1647] And Elon was actually talking about this with the neuralink.

[1648] He was saying that one of the problems is going to be that the access to information is going to be so incredible for someone who has the neuralink in that their bandwidth, their ability to be productive is going to be so much greater.

[1649] They're going to get so far ahead.

[1650] So if they're competing in business, if you're competing in business, if you're competing in anything that requires you to, you know, your intellectual capacity, it's going to be greatly expanded.

[1651] And so people that are kind of making their way up and can't afford a newer link, you're never going to be able to compete with these fucking, like, guys like Bill Gates, they're immediately going to get a whole drilled in their fucking head and get that stuck in there.

[1652] All these like super competitive billionaire characters, they're going to accumulate insane amounts of wealth.

[1653] Right.

[1654] So do you think, since it's going to be this sort of potpourri of different levels, maybe just for the sake of argument what if we let trans athletes compete because then maybe nature kicks in and then women have to figure out a way to compete with the trans woman and maybe they evolve.

[1655] Maybe that's like would force women's athletics into being watchable.

[1656] How dare you.

[1657] I'm kidding.

[1658] I'm joking.

[1659] But you don't want that.

[1660] I love female tennis.

[1661] You don't want women to become men.

[1662] You want, you know.

[1663] But you know, whatever you want, it doesn't matter.

[1664] We're on a path, and it's not a path that cares about our sensibilities or our hopes for the future.

[1665] It's a path that seems obsessed with technological innovation.

[1666] You know, that's the thing that, like, you're not going to avoid that, man. Yeah, so that's what I'm saying.

[1667] Like, if you can't avoid it anyway, why not let it happen and then see how humans evolve?

[1668] Maybe that's, maybe that will be the impetus for women to become, like, imagine beating.

[1669] imagine being the woman who like legitimately beats a trans woman who was and I'll be specific with Leah Thomas because I think it's relevant she was a male swimmer a year ago right so it's real I mean that is different you have to admit like that is different from competing against somebody who transitioned prepubescent yeah all those factors yeah like yeah that's that's different yeah imagine being a woman who finally you know and now she has a target to to get better at like you know a lot of times if you don't have, you know, the competition breeds the evolution.

[1670] It's a breed's the, um, the motivation to want to.

[1671] Yeah, but what if that motivation is a woman has to turn into a man or has to adopt many of the characteristics of a man or has to accept some sort of genetic editing, some sort of genetic editing that allows her to keep her double X chromosomes, but has the physical capacity of a X, Y, of a male.

[1672] Well, maybe they'll be more chill to watch TV with, you know?

[1673] Maybe it's more chill to hang out with Maybe they won't want to just watch murder mysteries Yeah, maybe Bravo won't be fucking on as much I wonder if anybody's in a study What is this?

[1674] Her last race, she got eighth Of course she did But there was another transgender racer That got fifth Which is hilarious But when she got eighth I mean how many times Has she been like, listen, maybe I've got a fucking sandbag This one It doesn't make sense otherwise Maybe I need to slow it down Yeah, I mean she won when it mattered But then in some other race She was like, how come an eighth How come I haven't heard of the other one But she's breaking records.

[1675] It's not just that she's winning.

[1676] She's breaking records.

[1677] And she's breaking records as a biological male who allegedly still has a penis.

[1678] Well, which means there's some level of testosterone.

[1679] It's also that there's a guy, Derek Moreplates, More Dates .com who's got a YouTube video who breaks down, like, what the thresholds are for a trans athlete versus for a biological female.

[1680] And the testosterone thresholds for a trans athlete, I believe, are quite a bit.

[1681] higher than they are for the average biological female.

[1682] Right.

[1683] There's a lot of weird shit to it, but man, I think where this is all going, unfortunately, is cyborgs.

[1684] I think we're going to be cyborgs.

[1685] And I think we're going to be cyborgs quicker than we think.

[1686] I think it's going to happen very fast because I think if you look at the adoption of phones, like how quickly we adopted it.

[1687] From 2007, seven was the year.

[1688] where the iPhone came out and if you go before that like the the amount of phone use cell phone use from like 2000 to 2007 was like steady increasing but then iPhones came along now everybody has a fucking cell phone virtually everybody you meet 99 % of the people you meet have a phone and that was unthought of when I was a child that you'd everybody would have a phone they carry with them everywhere they go that's crazy so inside my lifetime what it means to be a human being in the modern world has radically changed because of a very small device that fits right in your pocket.

[1689] It changes everything.

[1690] And there's somehow or another so much power that you could use it all fucking day long.

[1691] Recognizes your face to unlock itself or your fingerprint.

[1692] How long before the next thing comes along that moves in a more, like think about human beings invented writing.

[1693] Then they invented the printing press.

[1694] Then they invented digital.

[1695] They invented digital photography and the ability to publish online.

[1696] They invented video and film and video flying through the air and cell phone signals.

[1697] Like, all these things are just radical changes and the ability to express yourself and the ability to access information.

[1698] Radical, radical changes.

[1699] The next thing that comes along, if it's Neurlink or if it's something similar, there's probably going to be a bunch of competing technologies, someone's going to figure out something that makes a super person.

[1700] And if that someone gets together with these biologists who work on these myostatin inhibitors and they figure out how to gene edit so you can fucking live 500 a thousand years and you've got some super intelligent Hulk creature who what you we used to think of as a human being it's not this is all inside probability right like this is like those cows and the whippets they're real things right the technology that exists we already have technology that is allowed a person who's paralyzed from the neck down to use his mind to control a cursor.

[1701] And you know the first thing he said?

[1702] I want a beer.

[1703] I saw that.

[1704] I saw that article, yeah.

[1705] So this guy, some crazy illness or something, right?

[1706] Wasn't it?

[1707] Yeah, he was paralyzed.

[1708] ALS?

[1709] So can't move, but can use his mind to move around a cursor and request a beer.

[1710] Yeah.

[1711] And so we know that you can communicate rudimentarily with your mind.

[1712] Yeah.

[1713] How long before you can do it person to person?

[1714] Yeah.

[1715] through some sort of a Bluetooth -type deal where you and I, instead of like airdroping pictures to each other, you know, you can send me a photo of your dick and I'll be like, ah, and we'll laugh.

[1716] It's just probably what humans will do.

[1717] Or, you know, you could send a video that you watch and I can watch it in my fucking head straight from your head.

[1718] Crazy.

[1719] That's coming, man. I mean, we think that's so crazy, but it's so crazy that you could get something on your phone where you can send me things like that.

[1720] Yeah.

[1721] It's probably not that far away, man. It's probably not that far away.

[1722] Maybe a decade, maybe two, maybe three, but that's going to be, like, that's nothing in the greater scheme of the world.

[1723] If you had to say now, you have to make a guess, from now to 30 years from now, how wild are the change is going to be?

[1724] Are they going to be kind of sort of wild, interesting, not much different, or are they going to be just exponentially more spectacular?

[1725] They've got to be the latter.

[1726] Yeah.

[1727] It's going to be the latter.

[1728] I mean, because if you put it into context like you just did from when you grew up to now, it's X, the growth is extreme.

[1729] So that obviously points to it's going to continue to be that.

[1730] It's not going to stop.

[1731] And we're obsessed with the newest stuff.

[1732] Like, I have an iPhone 13 here.

[1733] It works great.

[1734] But I can't wait for the iPhone 14.

[1735] Why?

[1736] I don't know.

[1737] I don't know.

[1738] It's not going to do anything any different.

[1739] I still have an iPhone 11.

[1740] One of my other phones is an iPhone 11.

[1741] It works great.

[1742] It works great.

[1743] I never had a problem with it.

[1744] I use it, I make phone calls, I said, the pictures are great, but I would never buy one now.

[1745] I want 14, give me 14.

[1746] And capitalism motivates that because it's like the new thing to make money, the new thing to make money.

[1747] And materialism, which is a weird fucking thing that human beings are attached to that other animals aren't.

[1748] Right.

[1749] I mean, like my dog, you know, I have a, my daughter's dog is with me right now for a little bit who's like a little chihuahua whip it mix, a little tiny fella.

[1750] And they compete over toys.

[1751] Like, they steal toys from each other.

[1752] But I think it's just like, like, there's like a weird.

[1753] sort of jealousy the dogs have.

[1754] They get jealous if the other dog's getting pet.

[1755] They come over, they want to get pet too.

[1756] It's like this weird thing.

[1757] But they don't accumulate stuff and say, I need more stuff.

[1758] And, like, we do that.

[1759] Like, there's people out there that buy sneakers.

[1760] They can't stop buying sneakers.

[1761] They've got closets full of sneakers.

[1762] Like, Everlast.

[1763] He's got, like, giant claws stacks and stacks.

[1764] Jamie's a fucking sneaker.

[1765] Don't they bury bones to come back and get them later, though?

[1766] Dogs, no. They try to eat the bones.

[1767] I thought that was, like, a thing from cartoons.

[1768] Get a real dog.

[1769] Stop listening to cartoons for dogs.

[1770] I'm saying that's fucking dogs don't bury bones Dogs eat them Yeah You ever see a dog Bury a bone?

[1771] No, they gna on them Yeah They bury stuff though They do Maybe some dogs Some dogs may But if you give a dog a bone They only bury it To eat it later They don't want to accumulate Like a yard full of bones They can bring their buddies over And show them off Like this is my fucking bone young Nice collection Look at that Look at this I got this one in the 70s When I first thought of collecting They resell them on a bone site For double the price Depending on the market It is the thing That they bury bones But I think one of the reasons why they bury bones is because it makes them more edible.

[1772] Like, that's why bears do it.

[1773] You know, bears bury bodies.

[1774] Like, if a bear kills a moose, they bury the moose.

[1775] Like smokes it, like an Arab in the desert with fish?

[1776] Yeah, you make it rot.

[1777] Yeah.

[1778] Yeah, because when you're an elk hunter and you hunt an animal and you shoot it and it goes down, like sometimes they'll run, and they'll run like maybe even 100, 200 yards.

[1779] So one of the things you do is you wait.

[1780] Like if you shoot an animal, even if you know it's a very lethal hit, you allow that animal to expire.

[1781] You don't want to bump it, and what bumping it is is scaring it, and then it gets an adrenaline rush, and then it can keep running, and then maybe you won't find it.

[1782] Interesting.

[1783] Like, sometimes they can run a mile when they would have just laid down and died right there.

[1784] But, you know, the biology of a wild animal that's constantly getting hunted by mountain lions and wolves and, like, there is zero chance they're going to survive.

[1785] Zero.

[1786] A hundred percent chance they're getting eaten.

[1787] 100 % Those fucking things are tough as shit So when they go down You gotta wait And sometimes when you wait Like you might sit there for Like a smart hunter Who's patient will sit there for a half hour 45 minutes You know where they went You see a trail There's a blood trail But you wait Let the animal peacefully expire Hopefully they're dead instantly But sometimes they're not So you let the animal peacefully expire And then you go there And when you go there You're following a blood trail And sometimes you follow a blood trail And you find your animal And it's buried and you got to get the fuck out of there quick because that means a grizzly bear has claimed your animal that means it went there when that thing went down and it probably ate some of it in just a few short minutes and then covered it covered it with dirt maybe not even eating it yet maybe plan on eating it later and then they'll cover it with dirt and then they'll back up and watch it and whoever is trying to come get it and you stumble along you think that's yours but that grizzly bear is different ideas is and it weighs 900 pounds and it's just sitting there hey man that's my fridge that and that's the last day of your life so when you're a hunter if you're hunting in places like montana montana has a big grizzly bear population for sure there's some other states that have grizzlies Wyoming has grizzlies they have a lot of grizzlies Colorado has there's some sightings of grizzlies and the sandwans and in fact my um my friend adam green tree has a video of what he is certain is a grizzly bear that he saw in Colorado.

[1788] He's like, there's isolated grizzly bears.

[1789] There's been sightings, and they think that some of them make it in and then leave.

[1790] But if you show up in Alaska and you shoot a moose, and you get to the moose and it's buried, you're fucked, like you're in a bad situation.

[1791] You got to get out of there.

[1792] Wow, I didn't know any of this.

[1793] In Wyoming, you have to give the animal to the bear.

[1794] Right.

[1795] If a bear finds your animal, like if you have an elk tag in Wyoming, make sure this is true.

[1796] I don't want to be lying.

[1797] I think this is true.

[1798] If you kill an animal in Wyoming and it's claimed by a grizzly, I believe you are required to leave that animal with the grizzly.

[1799] I don't think you're even allowed to scare it off.

[1800] Because you could scare it off?

[1801] Or not.

[1802] Right.

[1803] Or not.

[1804] Or he says, fuck you.

[1805] Or you might have to kill the grizzly.

[1806] And grizzlies are protected animals.

[1807] You can't hunt grizzly bears in the lower 48.

[1808] You can hunt them in Alaska, but there's no place in the United States where you can hunt grizzly bears in the lower 48, only in Alaska.

[1809] We're contributing to their demise, right, just by how much we keep populating and taking their hunting grounds?

[1810] It's somewhat for sure.

[1811] Wyoming has asked, but it's really they were wiped out a long time ago.

[1812] Wyoming's asked the federal government to remove grizzly bears in and around Yellowstone National Park.

[1813] from protection under the Endangered Species Act, the request that approved, which of approved could allow the animals to be hunted, the bear's recovery from as few as 136 animals when they were first protected as a threatened species in 1975 to more than a thousand today is a success story, the state argued in its petition.

[1814] So that's what they do, is they get an animal that it gets to a point where it's no longer endangered and then they want to manage it.

[1815] And this is where it gets really sketchy with wildlife agencies and then environmental activists.

[1816] Because the environmental activists will sue to make sure that they don't put like a hunting season on grizzly bears.

[1817] But then there's people that are wildlife biologists that are say, hey, we have too many bears.

[1818] We have a problem with too many bear interactions with humans.

[1819] We have a very low elk population now in these areas because there's so many bears that they're killing all the calves.

[1820] We have to manage the population.

[1821] Or we're going to have trouble.

[1822] Like this, it's a smart, science -based approach to managing wildlife.

[1823] But managing wildlife means killing them.

[1824] That's what it means.

[1825] Right, right.

[1826] So the idea of killing a grizzly bear is appurant to a lot of people in this country.

[1827] And they associate it with a trophy killing.

[1828] Like, you're only killing this thing to stand over at like a great hunter.

[1829] Like, you're not even eating it.

[1830] Right.

[1831] You're not even eating it.

[1832] Like, that's, but it's also, you have to manage them.

[1833] Because if you don't manage them, if you're one of those guys that shoots a moose and you walk up on that thing.

[1834] And it's buried.

[1835] That is not your moose anymore.

[1836] It's not your moose.

[1837] See if you can find a video of a bear burrowing a moose.

[1838] Woman jailed for getting too close to grizzly bear at Yellowstone Park.

[1839] Yeah, that's different because Yellowstone Park, everything is protected.

[1840] All the animals are protected.

[1841] That's not even really the wild.

[1842] It really is a park.

[1843] Yellowstone Park is so bizarre.

[1844] It's such, it's a beautiful place.

[1845] Have you been?

[1846] I haven't been, but there's one species that's not protected.

[1847] That's Gabby.

[1848] Petito, she was not protected in Yellowstone.

[1849] Oh, how dare you?

[1850] I'm just saying.

[1851] A lot of people get killed in those.

[1852] I think it's just like, you know, people kill animals illegally.

[1853] Within 100 yards, though, is what the thing was.

[1854] They called her harassment.

[1855] She was taking photos of it.

[1856] Yeah, you're not allowed to do that in Yellowstone Park.

[1857] But see, Yellowstone Park is not really the wild.

[1858] Like, there's people driving through in cars.

[1859] It is the wild, and that there's no one feeding these animals.

[1860] They're wild animals.

[1861] But they exist, like, no other wild animal.

[1862] Like, for instance, I took all these selfies with.

[1863] with elk that were over by the visitor station, I was in front of a fucking soda machine.

[1864] There was a soda machine I was buying a Diet Coke and I took a selfie of a bunch of elk just standing behind me, which they don't do in the wild.

[1865] They only do when they're in civilization.

[1866] Like if you're in like Evergreen Colorado, elk walk right down Main Street in the middle of all the cars.

[1867] It's crazy.

[1868] They all these photos of these things because they know what civilization is.

[1869] And they know there's very few predators there and they know no one shoots them there.

[1870] So they figure that out, so they'll go there.

[1871] So it's not totally wild.

[1872] It's like a weird combination of wild and a park, like a pet, like a fucking zoo.

[1873] Right, right.

[1874] They're not worried about you at all.

[1875] It's a crazy video.

[1876] A bear joins a wolf pack, and the wolf pack hunts this animal, and the bear just steals it from them.

[1877] And they let it happen.

[1878] Smart.

[1879] Wow.

[1880] Well, they don't have any saying the matter.

[1881] And they say they let them.

[1882] Yeah, that's a...

[1883] How wild it, wolves, man. Listen.

[1884] Do wolves ever win that battle, though, just by tiring the bear out, just like nipping at them?

[1885] Wolf scare bears off, sometimes, you know, especially if there's a lot of them and it becomes too uncomfortable for the bear.

[1886] But the thing about wolves is that they were almost completely eradicated from the United States until the 90s.

[1887] And then they brought wolves in over from Canada, which were bigger wolves.

[1888] They brought Canadian wolves.

[1889] Canadian wolves are like generally, there's a thing with mammals.

[1890] Like the colder the species is, I forget what this is called.

[1891] See if you can Google what this is called.

[1892] But the colder it is in their habitat, the larger they are.

[1893] That's why polar bears are some of the biggest bears.

[1894] Codiac brown bears are some of the biggest bears.

[1895] It's cold as fuck, and there's a lot of food.

[1896] That combination is they develop the biggest fucking animals.

[1897] It's part of that because they need body mass. Yes, that's the thing with the mammals.

[1898] So, like, for instance, like deer.

[1899] If you get a deer in Saskatchewan, like a big white -tailed deer, that's like 300 pounds.

[1900] A big white -tailed deer in Mexico Or in Texas A big white -tailed deer is like 150 pounds It's like half the size They're a totally different -looking animal They're like big, bulky, it's because of the cold And that's the same thing with the wolves Is it the same thing with Russians too Because they're big fucking Russians I bet Vikings, Vikings too Scandinavians Iceland They always winning the Strongman competitions Yeah these dudes are fucking big Like the mountain Yeah huge Huge giant humans Yeah maybe You gotta think those are the ones it survived that harsh climate they have to be hearty as fuck yeah special people i'm looking at there's no term for it but an article that's describing it mentions that while true with a lot of mammals it it's not necessarily true with like turtles snakes lizards reptiles there's like some right birds right it's true with mammals for some reason and with uh some lizards it's actually the opposite which is weird because when you bring lizards to an island unlike every other animal every other animal and you bring up to a small area, they get smaller.

[1901] Like, that's why we have pygmy elephants.

[1902] Pygmy elephants existed on island.

[1903] Even probably pygmies, like people that are in small group or smaller people.

[1904] Like that Isle of Florensis that had that, like, a little hobbit person, that's like a little island that dude was living on.

[1905] And a lot of animals when they live on islands are smaller, except reptiles.

[1906] Reptiles get bigger, like the Komodo dragons.

[1907] Camoto Islands, there's not a big place.

[1908] Right.

[1909] It's not fucking Australia.

[1910] Right.

[1911] And these things are giant.

[1912] The biggest fucking lizards on earth They live in this one place It's uh do you think humans the same thing Like I don't know I made the joke about the Russians but like I noticed when I lived in Miami I changed Like you just start dressing different The colors are lighter The buttons go down on your shirt more You want some air It's hot and fucking human And then you go back to New York next thing you know It's like sweatshirt And even your posture changes Like we really are We just adapt to our environments to some degree I wonder if that's true Like, what if that, like, warm, humid climates made people, like, more passionate and wanted to fuck more?

[1913] If you think about, like, the way you think about, like, Cuba, like, romance and just fucking manly men and womenly women, like, think of these hot muggy places.

[1914] Yeah.

[1915] They're feel, like, a lot of machismo.

[1916] Yeah, they're warmer people, like, they're more emotional than you go up north.

[1917] Right.

[1918] And they're very cold and stoic and everything's cerebral.

[1919] Russians, who's more fucking cold -blooded than them?

[1920] They are there.

[1921] Right?

[1922] The Mongols back when those days.

[1923] Wow.

[1924] Yes, Scandinavians too, man. I've done comedy in Scandinavia and they clap.

[1925] Ha ha, ha.

[1926] Good joke.

[1927] Good joke.

[1928] Maybe.

[1929] Cerebral and they're inside most of the year.

[1930] Very little sunlight.

[1931] I think the environment has a giant's play on a lot of the aspects of what makes a person a person.

[1932] That's why at the end of the day, racism is kind of a stupid thing because homo sapiens sapiens, they look different because of the environment.

[1933] 100%.

[1934] It's all the same shit.

[1935] Yeah, it's stupid.

[1936] If you lived in a certain area over a certain amount of time, you would look a certain way.

[1937] I mean, it's just, that's what it is.

[1938] That's what it is.

[1939] It's the whole reason why we look different.

[1940] We're exactly, that's why we can have sex with each other and make babies.

[1941] Yeah, it's, like, other animals that, like, look similar, they can't just fuck each other.

[1942] Yeah.

[1943] You know, the diversity of human looks versus our actual, like, appearance is so, it's, or versus our actual genetics, is so different.

[1944] Like we look like a different thing If you saw Shaquille O 'Neil and Yonmi Park The lady who escaped North Korea Who's one of the most frail people I've ever met in my life But brave as fuck Brave as fuck and an incredible story And a brilliant woman But what you shake her hand It is like a small like match sticks She's so tiny And she didn't have any food when she was young I mean she's her all of her bones and everything She's very slight And then you saw Shaquille O 'Neal if you were from another planet and you had no idea what people are this is your first introduction to humans you would look at those two and go oh that's two different things yeah there's no way those two can have a baby yeah but they can they can somehow it would be fun to watch those two is it does he just plug her on and hold her in the him and the gymnast uh...

[1945] small balls that is insane like how would he yeah he's an enormous human and looks great by the way shack has been on a diet and he's been working out regularly And we look at pictures of them the other day.

[1946] He's got a six -pack now.

[1947] He's back, huh?

[1948] Dude, he looks fucking great.

[1949] Adjusted his diet, stopped eating bullshit.

[1950] He just decided to get in shape.

[1951] He was a destroyer.

[1952] Oh, my God.

[1953] He was playing, dude.

[1954] He would just guy that big with that speed and that power.

[1955] That's never been seen before.

[1956] If he had decided to be a UFC fighter instead of a basketball player, he'd be the heavyweight champion in the world.

[1957] Except he's too big for the heavyweight division.

[1958] The heavyweight division has a cap of 265 pounds.

[1959] Shaq ain't making 265, bro.

[1960] No, no. LeBron's barely making it.

[1961] Barely.

[1962] Barely.

[1963] Well, that's in Ghana.

[1964] You could cut down to it.

[1965] Looking Ngano.

[1966] I mean, that's one of the things about Inganu is he's one of the rare heavy weights who's a natural 270, 280.

[1967] And he cuts down to 265.

[1968] You'd have to, like, invent someone to fight Shaq.

[1969] You'd have to, like, build someone.

[1970] Or like the mountain.

[1971] Like, if the mountain got into MMA, you know, like, if he got into that early instead of becoming a strong man, He literally couldn't fight in the UFC.

[1972] He's too big.

[1973] He's more than 350 pounds now, and he's lost 100 pounds.

[1974] Are they going to ever create a super heavyweight division for guys like that big?

[1975] There is a super heavyweight division, but it's never been utilized in the UFC because there's not enough athletes.

[1976] There's not enough guys.

[1977] And, you know, they want fights to be exciting.

[1978] And, you know, the outliers like the Shaquille O 'Neils and the Thores from Game of Thrones, those are the ones who throw that into making a problem.

[1979] Yeah.

[1980] Because if the sport really did get to a point, I know, it's incredible.

[1981] It's incredible.

[1982] Shack was amazing.

[1983] 301 pounds with 10 % body fat.

[1984] Look at that.

[1985] That is amazing.

[1986] Bro, if he, and who knows, he might get back down without weight again.

[1987] But the point is, like, he's not going to get 265.

[1988] You're not going to ask a guy that's that lean and athletic to lose 35 pounds.

[1989] You can't do it.

[1990] It's too much weight.

[1991] But if they did get enough of those guys who really got into MMA, then you could see.

[1992] That would be the real heavyweight champion.

[1993] Because if you have, like, a Shaquille O 'Neal, who's, like, 310 pounds, solid muscle, and as good at basketball, that good at fighting.

[1994] Yeah.

[1995] Oh, my God.

[1996] How are you stopping that?

[1997] You can't.

[1998] It's too big.

[1999] No, you can't.

[2000] He's too big.

[2001] He's too big.

[2002] You need a grisly bear to fight him.

[2003] And he, you know, Shaq is a martial artist.

[2004] He's trained martial artist.

[2005] He trains constantly.

[2006] There's all these videos of him hitting pads and, like, grabbing guys in Muay -clinches and kneeing them in the body and knee and, you know.

[2007] knee in the pads while they're holding the pads, dude, you do not want none of that.

[2008] Right, no. None of that.

[2009] None of that.

[2010] There's no, maybe I could hit him first, uh -uh, there's none of that.

[2011] Yeah, those guys are just genetic freaks.

[2012] I recently, I had the opportunity to meet Gronk and Terrell Owens and the size of Gronk's hands.

[2013] I have a picture of it.

[2014] Dude, his hand looked like a catcher's mitt.

[2015] Like it was, I mean, he's six, six, six, seven anyway.

[2016] But there's something about, like, basketball and football players' hands.

[2017] It's like they have these little advantage.

[2018] My friend Marco is 6 '8.

[2019] His hands are, like, proportionate to his body, which are big.

[2020] But, I mean, Gronk's hands looked abnormally big.

[2021] And so did Terrell Owens' hands.

[2022] They looked like he was wearing, like, a Halloween costume.

[2023] It was insane.

[2024] Well, to be at the top of every sport, I think you need all sorts of things going on.

[2025] You need genetics, you need great coaching, you need mental fortitude, you need willpower, determination, and discipline.

[2026] You need all those things.

[2027] You can't have all those things but have little hands.

[2028] Like you're never going to beat those guys who are born with big hands.

[2029] Like you need the whole fucking, you need all the ingredients to make the perfect athlete soup.

[2030] But then you have those exceptions like a Lawrence Taylor or even Charles Barkley, guys like that.

[2031] Like Lawrence Taylor, there's stories about.

[2032] him where he would show up at the game he was a linebacker for the giants and probably maybe the best linebacker of all time he would show up and be like who are we playing where am i i mean he was like smoking crack he was drunk i mean he was like he didn't train at all and then he went on the he went on the field and he just was like a guided missile of destruction yeah there's guys like that it's just insane super athletes super athletes there's super athletes Bo Jackson Bo Jackson was a super athlete Who knows what changed about Bo Jackson's trajectory when he broke his hip because he was so powerful man He was so powerful He blew his own body out With his own momentum Like his own power He was just running He got tackled weird No he was running I think he was running And he just blew Like the force of his running Like ripped something I don't think that's true I think it was in the tackling I think as going down his hip dislocated I'm pretty sure there's a video of it right it's got of course there is got yeah this is it wow look how shitty the TVs were back that can't be it that's a VHS tape there was something about this is just footage of him I think oh is this when it says injury yeah this is it so right there it's when he goes down so right there it was a tackle yeah so in the going down the way he fell which didn't seem particularly brutal which just shows you how brutal football is because even regular tackles like that so on that one there's something that doesn't seem to anything like could have but it does I'm telling you man falling down is not good falling down with another super athlete dragging you down as you're running full clip so whatever happened he broke his hip yeah you're right and then they replaced his hip and you know knocks a fucking home run with a bad hip with a fake hip he was a great good baseball player too it's crazy you know he's a big time bow hunter is he now Yeah, he's very proficient, very good hunter.

[2033] And he's, the last I heard, he has to switch to a crossbow because his shoulders are so fucked up.

[2034] He can't pull his bow back anymore.

[2035] Football is rough, dude.

[2036] The worst one.

[2037] I think what football is the harshest?

[2038] It's like getting hit by a Mack truck.

[2039] And I have a show where we talk to athletes, and one of the questions I asked, like, two of them was like, is there a difference getting hit in the cold?

[2040] Like because those guys play in the They say when you get hit in the cold You can't explain to someone else What it feels like when you get hit In like zero degree weather in like Green Bay First of all the ground's hard Dude the sting of it is just like And the ground's hard Yeah The ground's frozen I mean those guys can't walk for like two days You think about it You're basically playing on a block of ice Like solid frozen ground And like Minnesota in the winter You know what that feels like It's concrete It's crazy So you're getting tacked on the concrete.

[2041] Yeah, and you're getting hit by another guy going, the speeds that they're going, the power that the force of is getting hit.

[2042] It's like a car accident on your body.

[2043] It is kind of crazy that they are playing when it's frozen, when the ground's frozen.

[2044] That is so bad for you.

[2045] Yeah.

[2046] It's basically like playing on cement.

[2047] Yeah.

[2048] And a lot of times it's not even grass.

[2049] It's like turf.

[2050] Oh, which is terrible for you, right?

[2051] Did you see Dion Sanders?

[2052] Was it Dion Sanders?

[2053] How did he get his toes removed?

[2054] Did he?

[2055] Yeah.

[2056] man. He had turf toe that was so bad from his years of playing.

[2057] His toes were all fucked up and broken and he had an operation on his toe to try to fix it.

[2058] And Dionne Sanders reveals how he had two toes amputated following foot surgery complications.

[2059] So he had foot surgery, right?

[2060] So they remove his big toe and one other toe because it was just all fucked up and broken.

[2061] And they tried to straighten it out.

[2062] And when they tried to straighten it out, apparently there was some sort of a blood issue where it started to die.

[2063] His toe started to turn black and they noticed it.

[2064] And then they were worried they were going to have to amputate.

[2065] They were going to have to amputate his foot, maybe even his leg.

[2066] So they got away with just amputating those toes.

[2067] But they had to amputate his big toe and the next toe over.

[2068] Damn.

[2069] It got dark quick, it said.

[2070] It's very scary shit.

[2071] Because necrosis, when that happens, following an injury, following a surgery, it's very, very dangerous because that's what leads to all sorts of stuff.

[2072] Like, you know, that kind of could lead to gangrene.

[2073] It could lead to those kind of diseases of, like, your body's not healing.

[2074] It's rotting.

[2075] And it's going to spread.

[2076] It could spread throughout your body and you could lose your leg.

[2077] You could lose your life.

[2078] Like, they were just trying to save his life.

[2079] And he was really worried they were going to have to amputate his leg.

[2080] It's crazy.

[2081] Like, staff infections work that way, right?

[2082] They just spread.

[2083] And they can't do anything.

[2084] But amputate.

[2085] Like, they have no. If it's too late, they catch it too late.

[2086] They have to amputate it.

[2087] Stop it.

[2088] Well, you could just die, you know, people die from staff all the time brian callan knew knew this lady and her and her husband um they were like into like natural foods and shit and natural healing like that kind of stuff and so she gets a staff infection and she doesn't do shit about it she's trying to like take herbs and stuff and he goes over the house and he didn't know about this he goes over the house and he's like what's what's wrong with her her gums were bleeding he goes what's wrong with her she's got a staff infection she's treating and he's like, oh my God, get her to a fucking hospital.

[2089] They get her to a hospital, but apparently it was too late.

[2090] Wow.

[2091] Ari Shafir and I were playing pool once.

[2092] We're playing pool.

[2093] I see Ari walking funny.

[2094] I go, why are you walking like that?

[2095] He goes, I got a spider bite.

[2096] We had been doing jiu -jitsu.

[2097] I bought Ari a year of jiu -jitsu as a Christmas gift, Hanukkah, whatever.

[2098] So we go to the sidelines.

[2099] I go, pull your pants up.

[2100] Like, let me see your knee.

[2101] He shows me his knee.

[2102] I go, dude, that's a staff infection.

[2103] I go, you got to go to the hospital right now.

[2104] I unscrew my cue.

[2105] And he goes, are you serious?

[2106] I go, we're going to the hospital right fucking now.

[2107] You've got to get that dealt with immediately.

[2108] You could die.

[2109] And he's like, why don't they fucking tell you about that?

[2110] I go, they should fucking tell you about that.

[2111] Like, it's not, there should be giant signs.

[2112] But they don't want to scare people off.

[2113] They want to have signs like, this is staff.

[2114] If you see this, go to a doctor immediately.

[2115] You need antibiotics, maybe even IV antibiotics.

[2116] So he got bit by a spider?

[2117] No, no, it wasn't a spider bite.

[2118] It was just a staff infection.

[2119] And how did he get it?

[2120] It was a spider bite.

[2121] How did he get the staff?

[2122] Jitsu.

[2123] so it's like because you get scraped you get scraped and it's like a common thing like there's certain gyms that are known for it like at one point in time in the Henzho Gracie school which is like one of the best jiu -jitsu clubs on the planet that's in New York City they were in the basement and the basement doesn't get any sunlight and a bunch of people were getting staff infections and they weren't they couldn't eradicate it they're cleaning the mats they still were getting staff the people like it was just sometimes it happens in gyms like a bunch of people get it and spreads through and it can fuck you up man so if you didn't catch that on Ari he would have been dead fucking dead yeah he'd been dead if he just kept going I mean I would assume eventually he would have gone to a hospital if he couldn't walk anymore and his whole leg turned black but I mean Ari would have waited that long wow I don't even know if he had I think he had sag insurance but can you tell like was did he have any of the symptoms besides no he was just limping I just you know we used to play pool a lot and he was limping around the table and I'm like what's going on and And then he showed it to me, and I was like, dude, we're going to the hospital.

[2124] And he was like, what?

[2125] Are you serious?

[2126] Yeah.

[2127] Your curiosity of saved Ari.

[2128] Could it, could have.

[2129] I mean, maybe he would have gone to the hospital anyway.

[2130] But it was bad, man. It was a big fat zit, like the size of a golf ball.

[2131] And it had a big white head on it.

[2132] And I was like, oh, dude.

[2133] I go, this is bad.

[2134] So that's what to look for?

[2135] There's that, but there's also like dots.

[2136] My friend Tate, we were, I had staff once.

[2137] I had staffed twice.

[2138] My friend Tate and I were at the airport We're waiting for our flight I had shorts on And I was like my leg cross like that And he was looking at my calf He goes, what's on your fucking calf?

[2139] I looked over There's like these little red spots all over I'm like I don't know Some shit He goes dude that's staff I go you think And he goes yeah He goes you need to get that checked out Like right away I was like that staff I go I thought staff He goes staff could look like that too He goes I think it's staff So I go right to the doctor They do a swab of it And the doctor was like Yeah that's staff She goes I'm going to give you A bunch of antibiotics and oral antibiotics, and if this doesn't work, we're going to have to put you on an IV.

[2140] I'm like, what?

[2141] And so they gave me these antibiotics that knocked me for a loop.

[2142] I am amazed that fighters fight when they're on antibiotics.

[2143] Because, like, Luke Rockhold, when he beat Chris Wyden, he was on antibiotics for staff.

[2144] When he won, when he beat him for the title, they drain you.

[2145] They make you so weak.

[2146] It's crazy how weak I felt.

[2147] Maybe it's just maybe I'm just a pussy, which for sure I am.

[2148] But I immediately was like tired, and I tried to work out.

[2149] I was like, oh, my God.

[2150] Like, this is what staff does for you?

[2151] Or this is what antibiotics do?

[2152] Fighting the staff, which means the staff is intense.

[2153] It's the staff's intense and the antibiotics are intense.

[2154] But antibiotics knock you for a loop.

[2155] Dude, staff is scary.

[2156] Scary.

[2157] That's scary.

[2158] And then there's Mercer, which is even scarier.

[2159] Which is, that's medication resistant staff.

[2160] And this MRSA is a lot of people catch it in hospitals when they have surgery.

[2161] And they have these, like, life -threatening infections because it's just ravaging your fucking body and it's resistant to the antibiotics.

[2162] So what are you do in that situation?

[2163] Dude, you stay in the hospital for a long -ass time.

[2164] I have a buddy of mine who had to get his knee operated on.

[2165] He got a MRSA on his knee.

[2166] They opened him up like a fish.

[2167] And they had to, like, go into the area and try to disinfect it and try to kill the infection.

[2168] It was horrible.

[2169] And he was in the hospital for a long time.

[2170] Wow.

[2171] A long time.

[2172] And he was an elite athlete, a Black Belt and Jiu -Jitsu.

[2173] Is it a virus or a bacteria?

[2174] It's bacteria.

[2175] Yeah.

[2176] And it's just trying to spread and live like everything.

[2177] It's trying to eat you, quick.

[2178] Trying to eat you.

[2179] And because of, you know, these medication -resistant strains that have come from medications because they figure out a pathway past the antibiotic.

[2180] And then they just get into people in hospitals.

[2181] Or, you know, you can catch it in other places too, but I know a bunch of people have gotten MRSA and they're fucked for a long time like months crazy scary dude's great life always finds a way no matter what form of life it'll just adapt it's wolves or bears or whatever whatever bacteria viruses see if you can find a video of a bear burying its kill because they they do bury their kill like a crocodile likes to take something they kill and stick it under a log let it rot just so it's easier to eat easier to eat yeah they just stuff it under they'll either eat chunks of it while they can right there but if it's too much work They'll just shove you under a rock and leave you there for a few days.

[2182] Will wolves ever come around and try to sniff out and battle the grizzly for the buried?

[2183] They'll try to scare them off.

[2184] They'll bark at them.

[2185] They'll come around them.

[2186] Because they can smell the carcass underneath the ground.

[2187] Wolves, one thing wolves definitely do is they scare mount lines off their food.

[2188] Like where places where wolves have increased in numbers, mountain lines have decreased in numbers.

[2189] And there's a direct correlation between the two because what happens is wolves kill the kittens.

[2190] So this is one that's burying.

[2191] He's burying this elk.

[2192] Dude.

[2193] Does he...

[2194] Oh, he just killed it.

[2195] He didn't bury it.

[2196] This is the...

[2197] 24 hours of this period.

[2198] It does it over the time, I think.

[2199] Oh, okay.

[2200] They found him chasing that thing.

[2201] They found him chasing it and killing it.

[2202] I think he's just...

[2203] He's just waiting for it to rot.

[2204] But see, that's what they'll do.

[2205] They'll just hang over their kill.

[2206] And look, he's going to kind of cover it up with dirt and leave it there.

[2207] And then And he's going to watch it from a distance.

[2208] That's going to be his territory now.

[2209] So if you killed that elk and you came over and it was covered in dirt like that, like right there.

[2210] See how that elk is covered in dirt?

[2211] Yeah.

[2212] That's the last shit you want to see.

[2213] The last shit you want to see is the elk you shot covered in dirt because you don't know which way to get out of there.

[2214] Yeah.

[2215] You might back up.

[2216] You go like, we got to get out of here.

[2217] And that bears behind you.

[2218] Or you might go left and that's where the bear is where you might go right.

[2219] So you're in the woods, right?

[2220] And you've got a 900 pound super predator.

[2221] that has claimed this animal that you shot and you're way too close to it.

[2222] And you have no idea where he is watching.

[2223] No idea.

[2224] Yeah.

[2225] And you might not be able to get a shot off as he's running at you.

[2226] Has that ever happened to you or know when you know?

[2227] Yes, people I know, yeah.

[2228] And what do they do?

[2229] They're just like, they just slowly back away?

[2230] My friend Steve Ronella and Remy Warren and Ryan Callahan, Janus Putelles, they were all on this trip in Alaska and the very same thing happened.

[2231] They shot an elk.

[2232] And what they did was, it was a long trek to their camp and elk is a huge animal so what they decided to do was late in the afternoon they said we're going to hang this elk or i think they they might have gutted it and left it but they were going to come back later so they come back later and they check and it hasn't been claimed they think they think it's fine but then they step in bear shit first clue and they're like okay is this fresh bear shit like what does this mean the elk hasn't been disturbed so they sit down and They're packing out the animal, they dress the animal, and they sit down and have lunch.

[2233] So they sit down and hair and launch, and they hear a noise, and they turn, and they see an 11 -foot bear sprinting full clip right at them.

[2234] Just makes a mad run into their camp, knocks guys flying.

[2235] Steve said this thing was gnashing its teeth 18 inches from his face.

[2236] Just runs by, gnashing its teeth, a giant bear.

[2237] He said it's so big, your whole body goes into reptilian mode.

[2238] You're in full shock.

[2239] You're frozen.

[2240] One guy winds up on its back.

[2241] This guy, Dirtmouth, in the middle of the scramble and the bear knocking these guys, he is on the bear's back for like a hundred feet as it's running down the hill.

[2242] Did he do that consciously or just happened in the melee?

[2243] Happened in the melee where he lands on this thing's back.

[2244] And then it runs off into the woods.

[2245] No one had a gun ready.

[2246] No one is prepared.

[2247] And then they stop and then they regroup and they try to figure out and they can hear it huffing at them through the woods.

[2248] Like it's thinking about making another charge and they got their rifles ready now.

[2249] And this is a monster movie.

[2250] Like a legitimate monster movie.

[2251] It's not just nature.

[2252] Did anyone get hurt from a...

[2253] No, they got so fortunate.

[2254] Wow.

[2255] They got so fortunate.

[2256] Did he make another charge?

[2257] They got how did they get out of it?

[2258] No, I think they yelled at it and they all had the rifles out and I think they got out of there.

[2259] I don't know if they left meat for the bear.

[2260] They might, pretty sure they left, like, at least the gut pile.

[2261] I don't think they went back a second time.

[2262] Yeah.

[2263] I don't remember, though.

[2264] But I remember it being a wild fucking story.

[2265] And Remy Warren tells it on my podcast and Steve Rinella tells it.

[2266] And I think maybe Steve just told them on, no, he told it on my podcast and on his podcast, on both.

[2267] But it's an extraordinary story because they're both really fucking smart and articulate guys.

[2268] and they encounter what is, you know, one of the most horrific predators you could ever stumble into, like a 900 -pound, 1 ,000 -pound bear.

[2269] And this one's 11 feet, because this is Alaska.

[2270] They're the biggest ones, because they have the most access to protein.

[2271] They're so big.

[2272] 11 feet.

[2273] So that was what I was saying about the wolves.

[2274] The wolf they brought down to Yellowstone were from Canada.

[2275] They're bigger wolves.

[2276] So.

[2277] I don't know if that's 100 % true.

[2278] Are they going to shrink, you think?

[2279] Because they're now in a different environment?

[2280] They'd probably shrink if they go to Arizona.

[2281] Right.

[2282] Over, like, generation after generations.

[2283] Right.

[2284] You know?

[2285] Right.

[2286] But, like, the red wolf that's on the East Coast, that's a smaller wolf.

[2287] And the gray wolf that used to live on the West Coast had all been eradicated by farmers.

[2288] What they would do is they would shoot an animal, and they would fill it full of strychnine.

[2289] Like, they would literally pump its veins full with strychnine right after they killed it and just leave it there.

[2290] And the wolves would find it, they would eat the carcass, and they would all die.

[2291] And they did that over and over and over again until they eradicated wolves from the West Coast until the 90s.

[2292] In the 90s, they decided to reintroduce him into Yellowstone.

[2293] It's interesting.

[2294] It's an interesting thing because throughout history, people have been terrified of wolves.

[2295] That's where the little red riding hood myth and, you know, three little pigs.

[2296] All that shit's, everyone's scared of wolves.

[2297] Because wolves used to eat people.

[2298] Yeah.

[2299] And the dogs, they think the best theory is right, that dogs evolve from gray wolves specifically.

[2300] Yeah.

[2301] Yeah.

[2302] And that, you know, we've always had this real weird relationship with them because they're beautiful and majestic.

[2303] But if, you know, you're a hiker and you go down the wrong path, wolves will fucking eat you.

[2304] Yeah, they don't, they look cool because they look like dogs.

[2305] The northwestern wolf, known by many, including as the McKenzie Valley wolf, the Canadian timber wolf and the Alaska Timberwolf is the largest wolf in the world with an average male weighing 137 pounds while the average female weighs 101 pounds.

[2306] Yeah, so those are the biggest wolves But I think the ones that we had in North America Were probably pretty similar but smaller But either way, you know You don't want a 90 -pound wolf fucking you up either They're amazing predators They can snap moose bones with their teeth Just to suck the marrow out It's amazing that we've created dogs That can fuck up wolves Have we though?

[2307] Yeah, there's dogs that can fuck up wolves What dogs?

[2308] Those, the mount, what are they called?

[2309] There's a few breeds that they use to fuck wolves up So do they have like wolfes up?

[2310] fights?

[2311] I think they do but I think they just have them for protection against wolves and they fuck wolves up.

[2312] Yeah there's like we've created these big dogs.

[2313] Kangles can grow to 145 pounds and up to 33 inches tall surpassing most of their massive dog breeds like Great Danes.

[2314] Wow I didn't even know this thing was a real animal.

[2315] Yeah.

[2316] Today in Turkey and increasingly in the United States the viciously protective dogs are known and celebrated as wolf fighters.

[2317] Whoa let me see a video these dogs.

[2318] Yeah look there's 13.

[2319] dog breeds that can kill wolves.

[2320] Wow.

[2321] Wolves and protect your house.

[2322] Holy shit.

[2323] Click on that.

[2324] Dogs are just the most incredible animal.

[2325] Oh, there's that Caucasian shepherd dog.

[2326] You ever seen that thing?

[2327] No. That thing looks like that werewolf I have outside.

[2328] I'd like to see one of those.

[2329] Bro.

[2330] I'd cane Corso's two.

[2331] What the size of that thing?

[2332] It's like a shack of dogs.

[2333] Look at the size of that thing.

[2334] It is so big.

[2335] Do that picture with that lady, the first picture that you had.

[2336] Bro.

[2337] There's definitely a perspective thing like a guy holding a fish in front of them.

[2338] But either way, that is a preposterous photo.

[2339] Look at that one right there, which she's right now.

[2340] That's real, yeah.

[2341] Oh my god, look at the size of this thing.

[2342] Damn.

[2343] That's a 200 -pound dog.

[2344] So that dog can fuck up a wolf, I guess.

[2345] You know, if you can make a dog to be an English bulldog that can't walk and can't breathe right, you can make a dog that can kill a wolf.

[2346] The thing, I think you could probably kill a wolf, but a pack of wolves, I think the pack of wolf will win on, yeah.

[2347] Yeah, pack of course.

[2348] You don't want to fuck with them.

[2349] Well, there's so much different than any other predator like that in that they operate as a unit and they think.

[2350] And they set traps for animals.

[2351] Like, wolves will funnel animals through the bottom of a canyon and they'll be waiting on the other side.

[2352] And they'll be waiting from the tops.

[2353] They can come down and the animals can't get away.

[2354] Like, they'll chase them into an area.

[2355] They'll corral them.

[2356] Smart.

[2357] They're smart and they know they all have roles and somehow and another they know what their roles are Yeah, it's like a good basketball team.

[2358] Yeah This is one look at what is that thing?

[2359] Oh my god, that's a real animal?

[2360] Mm -hmm.

[2361] What is that?

[2362] A combing door and that could kill a wolf?

[2363] That's what it said Wow Made the list.

[2364] Well, I guess the wolf can't kill it.

[2365] How do you get to its body?

[2366] It's a fucking mop.

[2367] Look at that mop.

[2368] That's crazy.

[2369] Imagine taking that thing out in the Texas summer?

[2370] Yeah.

[2371] He would just drop dead.

[2372] Look, he can't even see his face.

[2373] Bro, that is a wild animal.

[2374] That seems like a Jurassic Park creature.

[2375] That doesn't seem like a real animal.

[2376] Doesn't that seem like a fantasy animal?

[2377] Yeah.

[2378] Like it would talk in a movie.

[2379] What?

[2380] It looks like if it was laying down and its head was down, you wouldn't even know it's a dog.

[2381] That's real?

[2382] Hungarian sheep dog.

[2383] Oh, my God.

[2384] That is so crazy.

[2385] Look at that thing laying there.

[2386] Looks like spaghetti.

[2387] It's a bath mat.

[2388] That's a real dog right there?

[2389] That's insane No, that's actual bath mat I can't be a real dog I guess their dog name for a lot It goes viral for swimming video Wow Oh, that's a dog out of the pool Wow That dog's like Gracie It doesn't look like you can fuck you up But it'll fuck you out Isn't that crazy?

[2390] Poodles can be nasty The big ass pootles They just look cute And they make them with the crazy haircuts Yeah You know it's a nasty dog That a lot of people think isn't Is a Dalmatian is a nasty dog They use those to protect the horses The old school they were used to protect horses that would go to fires and they're nasty.

[2391] A lot of people get Dalmatians because they're pretty and they look great and they're beautiful but they're nasty dogs down there about Dalmatians.

[2392] Yeah.

[2393] I've heard they bite people.

[2394] Yeah.

[2395] And then there was a thing after, not that they all of them bite people, like there's been some instances.

[2396] There's a thing after 101 Dalmatians where people thought, oh, that's a cute dog.

[2397] Right.

[2398] They went and got a dumb.

[2399] No, it's not.

[2400] My kid is dead.

[2401] Well, huskies bite people I know that Huskies look like wolves Yeah I mean I don't think Huskies are wolves I'm not stupid But how close do they look like They look like It looks like a it looks like a wolf It looks so close It's like a wolf It's like a wolf yeah So German Shepherds look very wolf -like too Oh yeah So the Belgian Malamans A lot of those long Like that's so close Yeah I mean it's clearly a husky But man it looks a lot like a wolf Looks like a hot wolf Yeah, like a well -groomed wolf I mean they definitely look different Right it looks more softened It doesn't look quite as terrifying Not even close to as terrifying But they really look fucking similar Like how closely related are huskies to wolves Find that out Like how many Can they follow like are Is a pug more removed From a wolf than a husky?

[2402] Like, how does it work?

[2403] For sure.

[2404] Yeah, for sure.

[2405] There's certain dogs that are closer, without a doubt.

[2406] A pug is obviously not as close as a dog.

[2407] But can they measure it?

[2408] I'm sure they can.

[2409] Yeah, I'm sure.

[2410] But how do they measure it if they're all at one point in time, wolves?

[2411] Maybe they look at the DNA somehow.

[2412] Right, I wonder what it is that makes a husky look so much more like a wolf.

[2413] Anything?

[2414] Getting into it, they were, it looks like they might have been bred in the 30.

[2415] He was the first American Kennel Club Formula Recognized the Siberian Husky in 1930.

[2416] Oh, wow.

[2417] Yeah, maybe they just breed them down less.

[2418] It's just like they stop it.

[2419] And they go, all right, we want something vicious.

[2420] And then it, you know, something strong that does a job or whatever it is.

[2421] And it's closer to a wolf than a pug that just kind of sits around where they keep breeding it down, breeding it down, it just gets farther and farther away from the original thing.

[2422] I was listening to a radio lab podcast.

[2423] They were talking about how they did this really quickly with foxes.

[2424] They had foxes and the foxes had like, you know, They had them kept in cages.

[2425] And if you got near the fox, if it growled at any of the scientists, they would shoot it and kill it.

[2426] So all the ones that expressed any sort of aggression towards people they killed.

[2427] And then they slowly started feeding these things and taking care of these things.

[2428] And over time, and not that many generations, their ears started to flop, their snouts started to shorten.

[2429] They became more soft -looking and less intimidating looking.

[2430] It changed what these foxes looked like in a short amount of time.

[2431] It's crazy.

[2432] Yeah, I don't remember how long the demonstration was or how long the experimentation was.

[2433] But you could probably not do that with any other animal.

[2434] I remember reading once that the dogs have this unique, malleable gene that no other species, no other animal has, and that's why we're able to kind of tailor them for jobs in generations because of this specific malleable gene.

[2435] I mean, I don't know what it's called, but it's something unique to canines.

[2436] I think this is true that there's also something about dog's eyes that dogs possess an ability to express emotion with their eyes that wolves don't.

[2437] See if that's true.

[2438] Because I'm pretty sure that's true that I had read that or heard that that dogs have a, you know, a dog can look at you and they express things with their eyes.

[2439] Wolves just look at you all the time like this.

[2440] Wolves just, they don't have that ability to express emotion with their eyes.

[2441] Right.

[2442] Yeah, the puppy dog face, the puppy dog eyes.

[2443] Oh, okay.

[2444] What does it say?

[2445] I'm trying to get to the article about it.

[2446] Oh, so that's what they call it, a puppy dog eyes?

[2447] I'm trying to see if it's just about a wolf not doing it.

[2448] Yeah.

[2449] It's a special muscle that dogs did develop, though, over time that didn't exist.

[2450] Yeah, it says this facial muscle.

[2451] That's fucking wild.

[2452] Many people's hearts that does not exist in wolves, the ancestor of dogs.

[2453] Wow.

[2454] It's a muscle.

[2455] And just to let us know that, you know, you love me. Yeah.

[2456] My dog, Marshall, he definitely got that shit.

[2457] Oh, hell yeah.

[2458] He looks right at you.

[2459] Yeah, he's a loving dog.

[2460] He's a sweetie.

[2461] I love when they try to figure what you're doing and they turn their head.

[2462] They're like, what is it?

[2463] What is he saying to me?

[2464] I used to have a dog and when I would say to her, do you want to go for a walk?

[2465] Yeah.

[2466] Want to go for a walk?

[2467] Yeah, they can jump off, a tail start wagging.

[2468] Go for a walk?

[2469] Oh, yeah, I want to go for.

[2470] Are we going for a fucking walk?

[2471] Fuck, yeah.

[2472] They get pumped about everything.

[2473] I think also endorphins are released in both animals, like the relationship between.

[2474] Oh, yeah.

[2475] and dogs that they're good for you because the interaction releases of both species release endorphins.

[2476] I mean, I make fun of it, but there's a reality of an emotional support dog.

[2477] Like, dogs give you, they give you a good feeling, like a drug.

[2478] There's love.

[2479] There's love in dogs.

[2480] When I come home and there's no one in the house but my dog, I'm like, what's up?

[2481] Dog is pumped.

[2482] Yeah, I'm like, what's up?

[2483] You know, and then I'll take them out to pee.

[2484] We'll hang out outside a little bit.

[2485] will play like he's so happy to see you i've never had a dog that's like more connected to people than that dog that marshall yeah he's so connected to people he loves everybody he said what's up to everybody in that room he's like what's up what's up and he does the route and then he comes back and does it again dude he was in this room he would be doing that he'd be over by jamie hi if he was a comic he'd do great in the business he's a great networker be amazing network yeah he's just a love sponge my friend mike said that this what they call what he calls golden retrievers their love sponges yeah and then but there's other animals that are just fucking not that agreeable you know and you need those animals for like certain tasks like if you're going to fight off wolves Marshall is not your huckle no that's not that's he'd fight on shit what's so yeah they're like why you dude's not acting chill I remember a dog bit him once when we were running and it was weird it was a yellow lab there was a yellow lab that was like a bad dog that lived on our street.

[2486] And so I'm running down the hills with Marshall, and then this guy comes with the yellow lab, and he doesn't have control of the dog.

[2487] And he, the dog just runs up to Marshall and bites him.

[2488] And I have to run over and break it up, and I'm breaking it up.

[2489] And Marshall's like, what the hell?

[2490] Like, this is his look.

[2491] Like, what?

[2492] I can't even.

[2493] Like, he didn't fight back at all.

[2494] He didn't fight back at all.

[2495] He didn't know what to do.

[2496] And he was only, like, one at the time.

[2497] He was a puppy still.

[2498] But it was like, what the fuck?

[2499] Like, he'd never imagine that someone would bite him.

[2500] Yeah.

[2501] Like, I'm your friend.

[2502] Yeah.

[2503] I'd come here to say hi.

[2504] Yeah.

[2505] Did he change after that?

[2506] Did he get, like, insecure around dogs, or did it make him?

[2507] No, no, I mean, I was a little more careful with him after that, you know.

[2508] And, like, in certain areas where I knew that there's people on the trails, I would put him on a leash.

[2509] Yeah.

[2510] You know, but most of the time we would run this one area, it was, like, kind of, like, precarious terrain.

[2511] And I was, like, the only one running it most of the time with Marshall.

[2512] It's amazing how dogs just either like each other or don't, and they figure it out quick, and it kind of doesn't change.

[2513] They're kind of like women in that way.

[2514] Well, some dogs just don't like other dogs.

[2515] Yeah, and they know immediately from a smell or something.

[2516] They don't like other dogs at all, like any dog that they don't like.

[2517] No, but even just with personality, it's just sometimes two dogs don't get along, and somehow they know when they meet, and it's like, it doesn't go away.

[2518] Well, some dogs don't like people, like certain people.

[2519] Like, they'll like you.

[2520] They come on high, and then someone else walk in the room like, ooh, this motherfucker.

[2521] I'm like, bro, that dog doesn't like you.

[2522] They could just decide not to like a person.

[2523] Yeah, I wonder why.

[2524] I wonder what it is.

[2525] I bet they can smell weirdness.

[2526] Yeah.

[2527] I bet if you are scared of the dog, I bet the dog catches those vibes and maybe you seem erratic, like you might do something stupid.

[2528] Right.

[2529] And the dog's like, oh, look at this dumb motherfucker.

[2530] Yeah.

[2531] Like, and the dog's staring at you and it's like, oh, he doesn't like you.

[2532] No, he's worried about you.

[2533] Right.

[2534] You might do something dumb.

[2535] Like, he's a protector.

[2536] Right.

[2537] So if a dog is around its owner and then a person walks over that's, like, super nervous.

[2538] The dog probably thinks, oh, this guy's going to jack my owner.

[2539] You know?

[2540] Right.

[2541] They probably can smell shit that we can't even imagine.

[2542] Right.

[2543] Their noses are so much more sensitive than ours.

[2544] It's like a superpower.

[2545] It's insane.

[2546] They can smell for like a mile away.

[2547] They can.

[2548] Yeah.

[2549] They have insane noses, but you're ready for this?

[2550] A bear's nose is like nine times stronger.

[2551] I believe it.

[2552] Yeah.

[2553] A bear's nose is like one of the most preposterous things in all of nature.

[2554] They can smell shit way better than a bloodhound can.

[2555] Wow.

[2556] They can smell people like a, uh, 800 yards away.

[2557] Wow.

[2558] There's been videos of guys on hills like spying on these bears with binoculars and they feel wind at the back of their neck so the wind is behind them and then the bear just goes like that with his nose and runs.

[2559] Crazy.

[2560] Do you think the...

[2561] Eight football fields.

[2562] Crazy.

[2563] Do you think the dogs are like in touch, like that gut feeling we have is the same instinct that all animals have like a dog has but we just...

[2564] Because the gut always ends up being right for the most part.

[2565] Sometimes, yeah.

[2566] I had a Finnish friend who once explained it to me as like, always listen to your gut because that's millions of years of survival instinct from all your ancestors beyond when they were human.

[2567] Like that feeling, that's what that is.

[2568] And I was like, oh, that's a cool way to describe what that gut feeling is.

[2569] There's got to be some of that.

[2570] There's going to be something to that.

[2571] They say the gut is also like when people talk about like feeling things like with their heart, like when you, you know, like you trust your heart like that kind, like your heart has a bunch of neurons in it like that i think it has the sec didn't we google this or like the second most amount of neurons in the body something like that i'm like the heart does do in the stomach too so they all have neurons and so it's like trust your heart trust your gut i think those things those sayings come from a real thing like maybe you could feel certain things and maybe we're like less connected to it because we've gotten used to cities and supermarkets and all the shit that we deal with today that's kind of softened us and turn this into human pugs.

[2572] But I bet those instincts are still there in like times of danger.

[2573] Right, right.

[2574] They pop up.

[2575] Okay, here it is.

[2576] The human gut is lined with more than 100 million nerve cells.

[2577] It's practically a brain unto itself.

[2578] And indeed, the gut actually talks to the brain, releasing hormones into the bloodstream that over the course of about 10 minutes tell us how hungry it is or that we shouldn't have eaten an entire pizza.

[2579] Well, that's wild.

[2580] So actually, there is some science behind what you feel in your gut.

[2581] gut and also those expressions um yeah dr amore in 1991 discovered that the heart has its little brain or intrinsic cardiac nervous system this heart brain is composed of approximately 40 ,000 neurons that are alike neurons in the brain meaning that the heart has its own nervous system wild I did not know that at all that's crazy that's crazy so there's some actual trust your heart trust your gut yeah yeah there's something to that like something to that so imagine that but now imagine that with like a wolf imagine what they can sense they probably sense so many things they probably sense anger they probably sense like heightened awareness calmness where you're they probably can tell like what you're going to do before you do it yeah it's probably one of the reasons why they can communicate with each other yeah they're probably like signaling their intent through smells like when they see a moose and they're hungry, they probably signaled their intent through smells.

[2582] They probably signaled their intent either to chase the moose or to be one of the ones that sneaks up behind it when you are chasing it towards it, they probably figure it out through smells.

[2583] Right.

[2584] Because they're not talking, right?

[2585] They're sneaky.

[2586] I wonder if like prehistoric man is better at reading people probably because it meant the survival of their tribe.

[2587] So like they could probably, they were probably much more in touch with that to be like oh this dude is weak or this dude's a character this dude's two -faced or whatever for sure right i mean if you're your your survival relied on you being able to tell what a person is capable or not capable of fairly quickly they're probably more tuned in much more they had is if they weren't maybe like psychopaths and psychopaths would have propagated more and like maybe it would be because like if you're in a tribe back then if you're you're You were, like, all out for yourself.

[2588] Right.

[2589] It was probably bad for the tribe.

[2590] Oh, yeah, definitely, right?

[2591] And so they probably sniffed you out and were like, fuck you, and then the psychopath had to go.

[2592] Yeah, like, if a tribe found out that someone was hoarding food or taking more than their own share.

[2593] Yeah, or just being, like, nefarious or manipulative, like, trying to sew division.

[2594] Try to kill the chief because they want to be the chief?

[2595] They want to be the chief.

[2596] They probably sniffed that shit out.

[2597] I mean, do you imagine how many coup attempts have there been on chiefs and tribes?

[2598] Yeah.

[2599] It's like almost nobody would make it to the end of their reign without someone trying to take them out.

[2600] Nobody.

[2601] Nobody.

[2602] It's not human nature to.

[2603] It's human nature to try to do it, yeah.

[2604] Yeah, for sure.

[2605] They probably had, you know, over time it probably evolved.

[2606] I need an advisor.

[2607] I need this because they took out that dude.

[2608] And then maybe the tribe, like the chief has a bunch of wives.

[2609] Yeah.

[2610] And one of the guys starts secretly banging the wife.

[2611] Yeah.

[2612] Because the chief can't fuck all of them.

[2613] Yeah, no. Because, like, you know, some of those guys that have, like, a gang of wives.

[2614] Yeah.

[2615] So people are like, fucking him.

[2616] Why does he have so many wives?

[2617] Yeah.

[2618] Isn't that funny that's one of the cult leaders and occult?

[2619] Always.

[2620] Always.

[2621] They always.

[2622] Fucking a lot of women is always part of what their religion somehow.

[2623] Yeah, any cult.

[2624] I mean, anything where someone's going to be the top dog.

[2625] You know, they say that was what was going on in the Catholic Church before they made them be.

[2626] celibate that priests used to be banging everybody they were rock stars so that came later where they made them marriage yeah celibacy was introduced to the catholic church and i think part of it was because they had too much influence and too much power they were probably fucking everybody i didn't know that i thought they started as that they couldn't marry take yourself back to the time before the bible was translated like into a bunch of different languages like before martin luther If you had the Bible It was in Latin You had to be able to read Latin How many people knew Latin Right So it was like a protected priest class They knew how to do this And you were the literal Messenger of God Right You were pious and they probably fucked Everybody Right If you were in charge Like preachers do Right Those evangelists We used assume those guys fuck a lot Yeah they do You know they all day You know they do Like during that Jim Baker scandal Of course he fucks They always do Cozy Fox.

[2627] There's always, but one of my favorites...

[2628] It's a rock star.

[2629] Yeah, what of my favorite story?

[2630] Yeah, like, dude, Joel Olstein is a star.

[2631] Star.

[2632] He plays arenas.

[2633] A star.

[2634] Yeah, dude is a star.

[2635] Beautiful hair.

[2636] He's got...

[2637] Looks fantastic.

[2638] He looks fantastic.

[2639] Nice suits.

[2640] Yeah.

[2641] My favorite is that story recently where they found like 600 grand or something in the bathroom of the church.

[2642] Did you hear about that?

[2643] I did hear about that.

[2644] Yeah, I love that story.

[2645] Was that his church?

[2646] That was his church.

[2647] He's got money buried in the walls.

[2648] Yeah, he got money buried in the walls.

[2649] Just in the wall.

[2650] They come for him.

[2651] What year was celipacy introduced into the Catholic Church?

[2652] It's a long, long time ago.

[2653] Like, at first it said a thousand years ago, basically, but now I'm seeing the first written mandate requiring priests to become chaste came in AD 304.

[2654] AD 304.

[2655] So the year 304.

[2656] That's when they got tired of priest fucking everybody.

[2657] That's the only explanation.

[2658] Priests, they mutated in a weird way after that.

[2659] Like COVID.

[2660] Not good.

[2661] Yeah, they mutated it a bad way.

[2662] Mutated to be a worst virus.

[2663] Imagine any other religion.

[2664] Because COVID, I mean COVID, the Catholic Church, the reason why they're allowed to get away with what they get away with, because they've been around so long.

[2665] Here's a quote from Paul in his first letter to the Corinthians.

[2666] Recommend celibacy for women.

[2667] To the unmarried and the widows, I say that it is well for them to remain single as I do.

[2668] But if they cannot exercise self -control, they should marry.

[2669] for it is better to marry than be a flame with passion whoa imagine how they thought about things back then but that is women that's telling women but that's in the Bible just telling women to be you know don't be a ho you know all religions it's written by insecure dudes like hey ladies don't be a flame with passion don't enjoy sex at all you're there for your dude imagine how wild people must have fucked back then too a flame with passion flame with passion You know, they were wilder people.

[2670] Yeah, but we really did oppress women's sexuality till recently, I mean, like...

[2671] Of course.

[2672] Look at what's happening in other parts of the world right now.

[2673] The places where women are still getting their clits cut off.

[2674] Yeah.

[2675] Yeah.

[2676] I mean, like they recently, like, are trying to understand their orgasms, like the last hundred years or 50 years or whatever it is, like women's liberation, like, they're understanding the power, they have multiple orgasms.

[2677] I mean, you could really enjoy sex if you're a woman.

[2678] when do you think women more than men what do you think it was like back then do you think there it was probably commonplace rape was probably commonplace beatings were probably commonplace yeah yeah there were I mean my grandfather this is a true story my grandfather was born on a small island that used to be called imbros which is now Turkish it's got a Turkish name but during the Ottoman Empire there was like a local Sultan I guess they had like these viceroys that were set up around the Ottoman Empire that kind of controlled the region like Pontius Pilate was in the Roman Empire and he was known for like raping kids so my great -grandparents sent him to Egypt because they didn't want him to be raped by the Sultan and he never returned he never saw his family again he grew up in Egypt and then from Egypt he came to America but that's a true story so that was his life story I mean that's what he had to deal with back then that was during the Ottoman Empire when Greeks were a slave Wow.

[2679] So I think a great portion.

[2680] History is just full of brutality.

[2681] Brutality.

[2682] Brutality.

[2683] You know, in Russia, it's still legal to hit your wife?

[2684] I didn't know that.

[2685] Domestic violence is not against the law.

[2686] Make sure that's true.

[2687] Make sure that's true.

[2688] Yeah, it's just...

[2689] I wish people in America would realize that more.

[2690] Like, you know, the real flaw in freedom and the real irony to the American amount you when you complain is that you're allowed to complain, which means you have it good.

[2691] Yeah.

[2692] That's sort of the oxymoron of it all.

[2693] Like you're complaining a lot because you feel like something's wrong.

[2694] But that you're able to complain is an indication of how good you have it.

[2695] Because try to bring up those complaints to King Z or whoever the fuck and you just disappear.

[2696] Yeah.

[2697] They'll cut you in half in front of your kids.

[2698] So what does it say?

[2699] January 2017 lawmakers voted 30 to 3 to decriminal.

[2700] Certain forms of domestic violence under the new law first -time offenses that did not reach that did not result rather in serious bodily harm Carrying a maximum fine of 30 ,000 rubles Up to 15 days administrative arrest or up to 120 hours of community service Wow They decriminalized domestic violence in 2017 That was just a few years ago.

[2701] Yeah Jesus that's that's basically given a green light to a pimp slap.

[2702] To what Will Smith did to Chris Rock, that is not a crime to do to your wife in Russia.

[2703] Yeah.

[2704] Chris Rock should have fucking hit him back.

[2705] He should have jumped on his back as soon as he turned his back like that.

[2706] That just gets filtered him through an MMA brain.

[2707] 100%.

[2708] You don't, listen, man, here's the reality.

[2709] You don't slap a man in the face and then turn your back and walk away unless you should have never slapped that man in the first place.

[2710] Because you're only slapping a guy who you know can't slap you back.

[2711] I slapped him, yeah.

[2712] It's the only reason why he slapped him and then turned his back and walked with it.

[2713] Look, if he slapped him and then stood his ground and waited for a return and was ready to go to war, that's one thing.

[2714] When you slap a man, you turn around and go back to your seat, that is a sure sign you should not slap that man. It's not fair.

[2715] I just had this image of a movie like the karate kid where Chris Rock just shows up in Austin, he's like, hey, Joe.

[2716] You know?

[2717] Yeah!

[2718] Trade me!

[2719] I was thinking to my friends last time, I was like, imagine if Chris Rock had just a year of solid jiu -jitsu training under his belt.

[2720] and as soon as As soon as Will Smith turns his back He just leaps And takes his back And just squeezes Will out Before the fuck Before the security guards can get to him Will Smith goes out Wipes that smirk off Will Smith's face Listen apparently they worked it out Like I read that they talked And Will Smith made a statement And Chris Rock even apologized And apparently they talked backstage And worked it out Which is the best I don't think Will Smith should go to jail I don't think any of that stuff should happen And I don't think they should take away his Academy Award.

[2721] I think he knows it was a foolish act.

[2722] Everybody else knows.

[2723] And I think it's one of those learning experiences for the world.

[2724] It's like a teachable moment, right?

[2725] Like the whole world can see that we put stars and celebrities up on pedestals, but they're just human beings.

[2726] And sometimes human beings get pushed to the point where they do something irrational.

[2727] Right.

[2728] And that's what he did.

[2729] He just did something totally irrational that he's completely embarrassed by.

[2730] Right.

[2731] Good.

[2732] Now we know.

[2733] Well, you know, that's what you give for marrying a woman with a headshot.

[2734] That's not real.

[2735] Bobby Kelly told me a long time ago No headshots Don't marry a woman with a headshot I mean there's two egos You know There's two egos and Yeah but it works in some cases Some cases it does work If you meet the perfect woman And she has a headshot Who cares?

[2736] Yeah it's like look at Tom Seguer and Christina Positsky That works There's a few examples Bonnie McFarlane and Rich Voss Totally works That works And it works off each other Those guys are hilarious They are hilarious hilarious together Hilarious Steve Corell and Nancy Walls I think are both comics.

[2737] There's plenty of examples.

[2738] Yeah, yeah.

[2739] I'm kidding.

[2740] Plenty of examples.

[2741] Natasha Legerro and Mosha Casher.

[2742] Great example.

[2743] It works out in some cases.

[2744] Yes, it does.

[2745] But, you know...

[2746] It can be problematic.

[2747] Yeah.

[2748] Comedians can be hard to be friends.

[2749] I mean, these comedians that neither of us can be friends with.

[2750] Yeah.

[2751] You know, you're too much.

[2752] He's just like, some of them, you know, like you say hi to him.

[2753] You try to be civil when you see them, but they don't really have any friends.

[2754] Right.

[2755] Those are weird guys, man. How do you deal with friendship now?

[2756] Like, how do you deal with friendship now?

[2757] you you're in such a year like do you have to be you have to vet more like how does it like what's your barometer how do you measure like who you like and who you don't is it a gut feeling is it more this a little bit of a gut feeling is talking to people and getting to know them but you know I have a lot of really good friends already right that helps do you feel like you old do you get the less friends you need because I find that I feel like there's that but there's like the less acquaintances you need because you want to spend more time with your really good friends like if I hang out with one of my friends you know I'm hanging out with them for hours.

[2758] Right.

[2759] We're going to do a show together maybe.

[2760] We're going to get some dinner together.

[2761] We're hanging out for hours and laughing.

[2762] Like, it's just, there's so many things I like to do.

[2763] I have so much, so many interests.

[2764] I don't have time to be spending time with people that I'm not really interested in talking to.

[2765] So there's no room.

[2766] Yeah.

[2767] It's like, I have a lot of friends.

[2768] And also as you get older, do you think there's some subconscious realization that there's just less time available?

[2769] So I want to make the most.

[2770] Because time is actually more value.

[2771] than money right it's the only thing you can't get back yeah time and health yeah health is the most valuable thing well the health gives you time yes it helps me you know you can appreciate your time because you're not suffering um yeah I don't man the way I manage it is like the way I manage everything I just be myself and you know there's there's all kinds of cool people that you know or just regular folks it's they get they do get weirded out when they made a famous person but after a while to get used to it yeah you know well you got comic vibe even the first time i met you was like you know it was intimidating first time doing the show but like a few people mentioned i remember shultz saying that like after he did it the first he's like he's a comic man and then when i came in the first i felt that way i was like yeah there's a certain down -to -earthness that comics had because we kind of need it have to have it have to have it or else you're kind of disconnected from what you need to do is your job yeah your job is to connect to people yeah like to connecting people in a real way like they gotta really know that like you're smiling at them you're laughing we're both having a good time together yeah because that's really what comedy is is sort of like a bond between the audience and the comic on this thing we share in common which is like this tough life with struggle and uncertainty and mortality and yeah we're trying to like emotionally feel better about it that's i cut comics so much more breaks than i cut anybody else i give them so much because i know you're nuts and i give them all the room you know but i also let them know like look i'm a comic too i'm your friend yeah like i love comedy i love comedians and i'm that's our tribe our tribe is comedians and there's not that many of us the real number it's probably a thousand worldwide the real number of like a real legitimate professional comedian that can go up and do an hour right and kill and has like maybe a following and can tour clubs and theaters and then colleges and what and then you get to like big theaters and arenas right you get to a re how many of those are Not many.

[2772] Arenas, not many.

[2773] Not many.

[2774] Not many for theaters.

[2775] Is there 50?

[2776] 100?

[2777] Maybe 100?

[2778] Probably less, man. Right.

[2779] So in this country, I mean, you know, I've talked about it with many comics.

[2780] Like, how many guys in this country would you recommend your friend go see?

[2781] Right.

[2782] When you put it that way, it's not that many.

[2783] 200?

[2784] Yeah.

[2785] 200 guys, maybe, if you really wrote them all out?

[2786] Yeah.

[2787] It's not a lot of humans.

[2788] I say 200 guys.

[2789] There's a lot of girls in there too.

[2790] A lot of very funny girls.

[2791] I would, I mean, 200 humans.

[2792] But it's not that many There's a million doctors in this country There's a lot of occupations It's a very small tribe Of people that are comics And so if you're a comic And you don't like other comics Like you're missing out on the whole fucking point stupid Yeah You know you get rude to other comics You don't like when other comics succeed You don't like other people being funny You try to downplay how good they are Or why they're successful Like shut up Yeah that's a real unfortunate part other business.

[2793] Maybe that's kind of lessons as the business has changed, but then kind of cancel culture came in where comics started going after other comics.

[2794] That's my pet, Levi.

[2795] Those are good comics, though.

[2796] Not in a jokeful way, but when they really, like, morally indicting someone, I hate like, if you can break balls about something, make jokes about something, but someone's like morally indicting someone and it's a comic to another comic, I find that disturbing.

[2797] It's very disturbing, and it's always from comics that aren't that good.

[2798] Always.

[2799] It's not the best.

[2800] of the best doing that.

[2801] It's always these mediocre shitheads that want up doing that.

[2802] It's true.

[2803] Generally people that think they deserve more attention than they get.

[2804] And they relish the opportunity to take someone down a notch.

[2805] And they relish the opportunity to virtue signal and let all the people that follow them know that they're on the right side of history and this and that.

[2806] Blah.

[2807] Yeah, it's bullshit.

[2808] Yeah.

[2809] And by the way, now go kill.

[2810] Oh, you can't kill.

[2811] So this is more important.

[2812] Your activism is more important in your comedy?

[2813] Well, that's probably why they're doing it.

[2814] That's what happens, man. They get to this.

[2815] point where they're really more of an activist than a comedian like okay stop you're just not that good like it's hard to do it's hard to do just face what's going on you're not that good at this thing that's hard to do yeah and also this era there's no excuse i i feel like there's no excuse like even if i never had another ounce of success i would never blame anything or anyone because the opportunities are there for anyone with the internet you can do whatever you want you can put your content up whatever it is you want to try to do you got a chance to build your own thing and You really do.

[2816] Who would trade this era for any other era?

[2817] This is the most free.

[2818] To be a comic, it's the most free, accessible time that has ever existed at all.

[2819] And it's also a little fun.

[2820] I like the cancer culture.

[2821] It makes comedy a little dangerous.

[2822] It's fun.

[2823] Yeah, it's fun.

[2824] Ari had that great quote.

[2825] He said, comedy's dangerous again.

[2826] It's true.

[2827] You get in a room, you're like, hey, you guys are sensitive.

[2828] But let me play with that a little bit.

[2829] No, I couldn't agree more.

[2830] And I think there's also, this is strength in the relationship that comedians have with each other.

[2831] Because before we used to be competitors, like maybe you and I would show up in the green room for a casting audition for a television show.

[2832] We're both reading for the part of Paul.

[2833] Like, oh, fuck, you're reading for Paul, too?

[2834] Now my friend is my competition.

[2835] So you hopefully, you know, I hope you bomb.

[2836] I hope you go in there and choke dick.

[2837] It's like that scene in Batman where the Joker just breaks the stick and goes, you guys fight it out.

[2838] And it's like that's what comedy was back then.

[2839] Yeah.

[2840] There's only a certain amount of spots.

[2841] The only certain amount of spots, and everybody had this goal, and the big goal was to get a sitcom, because that was like the honeypot.

[2842] They're like Jerry Seinfeld got and Roseanne got, but then the internet came along and we instead became assets to each other.

[2843] So, like, I have this podcast, you're on my podcast.

[2844] Yeah.

[2845] Like, it helps you, but it helps me too.

[2846] Yeah.

[2847] Because you're a funny guy and you're a smart guy, and we're going to have a fun conversation, and all the people that are on the treadmill right now are enjoying this.

[2848] So that's why it's an asset to each other.

[2849] Like, it helps promote you, but it also helps my show.

[2850] And also, people know that if I have people on, it's because I like them and they're interesting and they're funny.

[2851] And so then the audience trusts me more because I keep introducing to more interesting funny people.

[2852] They go, oh, he's got good taste in comics.

[2853] Right, right.

[2854] This is like we all, we can promote each other now because it's not like your shows on Tuesday at 8 p .m. And so is mine.

[2855] No, you fucking shows on whenever the fuck you want.

[2856] Take a shit and on a plane.

[2857] Your shows on whenever anybody wants to see it.

[2858] So is mine.

[2859] And there's enough people.

[2860] Right.

[2861] This famine mentality went away with the internet because we all became assets to each other.

[2862] That's such a great way to describe it.

[2863] That's a perfect breakdown.

[2864] It's amazing.

[2865] I never thought about like as an asset.

[2866] We did become assets to each other.

[2867] Yeah, we became the opposite of a competitor.

[2868] Yeah.

[2869] We became comrades.

[2870] Yeah.

[2871] And then as like the podcast community grew, we all found out about these other great podcasts because of each other.

[2872] Yeah.

[2873] So you find out about two bears, one cave because they were on, you know, skip, Tank or they were on this or your podcast or Schultzes and with Akash or and everybody's sort of networking but they're networking and not like NBC we've got some wacky contract we can't get out of right it's a a natural network right like it's an organic network of friends right that just like to bust balls and have fun and talk shit and they always tell each other oh hey yannis has a new Netflix special out you know fucking mark norman just put his new shit out on YouTube Shane Gillis has a new thing like everybody does that yeah we all do that for each other All of us.

[2874] Yeah.

[2875] So it's changed that mentality that some of these older, cunty comedians still have.

[2876] They still have this competitive thing where anybody who does well is somehow another taking from them.

[2877] Well, I guess, a lot of people have a misunderstanding of what survival of the fittest means.

[2878] It doesn't actually mean the strongest survives.

[2879] It means the one who adapts best to change when the environment change survives.

[2880] And often sometimes it'll be the weakest from the previous environment who with the change with accepting the change becomes the strongest in the new environment that's actually what survival of the fittest means well we don't need one fittest anymore that's the thing it could be survival of community those who adapt to this change and that mentality those who have adapted to that mentality are going to flourish because that's what the environment is now right that's the fittest yeah you fit the environment best right yeah not just like you've more endurance and strength no you've adapted and it's also it's more fun this way like totally come on we did a show last night it is so much fun so much fun and we do we do all these things together whether we do podcasts together or shows together it's always like the same vibe yeah when when comics are around like I do this show now with Norman Shane Gillers Ari and me we call it Protect Our Parks because one time we were all baked as fucking Ari couldn't shut up about this park that they were gonna get rid of in New York we gotta protect this park and so Shane starts I'm ragged on them and saying that we're going to call the podcast Protect Our Parks.

[2881] So we've literally changed the name of the, like our chat group is called Protect Our Parks.

[2882] That's hilarious.

[2883] And the four of us together, get together, we get obliterated.

[2884] We get high as fuck and drunk.

[2885] And we just talk shit for hours.

[2886] And it's always the same vibe.

[2887] Right.

[2888] Just fun.

[2889] Just comics.

[2890] Yeah.

[2891] Shooting the shit.

[2892] Yeah.

[2893] And it's also cool that comics can recommend out of the comics because who do you trust more?

[2894] Right.

[2895] Comics recommend people who are good.

[2896] Yeah.

[2897] Yeah, I have a few people recommend people, and they're New York guys, and I call Ari.

[2898] It was like, whoa.

[2899] And I'm going, okay, say no more, champ.

[2900] Yeah, but it's a great time for comedy, too, because I don't think there's ever been more really funny up -and -comers.

[2901] You know, more people that are, they don't have to go through all the hurdles that they can put a thing up on YouTube, like you were saying.

[2902] They could put a thing up on Instagram, and it could become viral, and they become famous for it.

[2903] You know, I mean, there's so many people that have, like, Angela Johnson with her, uh, the Vietnamese nail salon bit.

[2904] That fucking bit blew her up, one bit.

[2905] Yeah.

[2906] I remember I was in San Jose and I was doing the improv and she was doing a giant ass theater.

[2907] She had like a YouTube video that just blew her up and like, wow.

[2908] Yeah.

[2909] She had a billboard.

[2910] So she's got a fucking billboard?

[2911] Yeah.

[2912] Yeah.

[2913] You know, standups don't have the monopoly on funny anymore that we used to because the internet's opened it up to whoever wants to make videos, podcasts, whatever it is.

[2914] So a lot of guys end up having a, funny video channel.

[2915] Oh, yeah.

[2916] Yeah.

[2917] I mean, they do stand up later.

[2918] They're not as good, but they can become good.

[2919] They just keep doing it.

[2920] A lot of those YouTube guys and girls.

[2921] And if they keep doing it, they will.

[2922] Well, you know, look, when the best versions of taking advantage of this new art form is Kyle Dunnigan and Kurt Metzger.

[2923] Oh, he's the funniest dude in the world.

[2924] The two of them together is Batman and Robin.

[2925] Kurt's just amazing writer.

[2926] And Kyle Dunnigan, dude.

[2927] That's everything you need to know about where to find you're funny now.

[2928] I was like, that dude's not on SNL, so it's like, what?

[2929] Well, you watch his Biden stuff?

[2930] He's the funniest fucking dude.

[2931] He crap.

[2932] Kyle Dunnigan, I go there, I cry.

[2933] He did that Michael Jackson one.

[2934] Teeth -he -he -he.

[2935] Yes.

[2936] Me and my wife were watched that.

[2937] I was fucking crying, dude.

[2938] You know, they took that one down, I think, from Instagram.

[2939] Of course, they took it down from Instagram.

[2940] I think they left it up on Twitter, but they took it down from Instagram.

[2941] It is, like, gut funny.

[2942] Gut funny.

[2943] Have you seen the Nancy Pelosi one?

[2944] Yes.

[2945] Or if she has skeleton hands, she rubs them together and starts a fire.

[2946] It's so funny.

[2947] Those face swaps are so good.

[2948] He's such a good, talented impressionist, too.

[2949] Oh, he's amazing.

[2950] And there's also like a lot of comedy in the impressions.

[2951] It's not like just accurate.

[2952] It's also like comedic.

[2953] Oh, the two of them together are such an amazing combination because Metzger is one of the most underrated writers and comics.

[2954] He's a guy, and he'll readily admit this, that he kind of fucked up because he got into the writing circuit.

[2955] And he, even though he's a great comic, people don't know him for that enough because he spent so much time just writing and working on shows that he's a great writer and he's still a great comic, but he didn't do the road.

[2956] Didn't have a lot of stuff that's out there where people can go see him and they know that he's, but he's a brilliant comic.

[2957] In New York.

[2958] In a brilliant dude.

[2959] Oh, yeah.

[2960] In New York, Kurt was like one of the guys everyone talked about.

[2961] He's an animal as a stand -up.

[2962] Like, Kurt was known in the New York scene as like, he's a beast.

[2963] He's a great comic.

[2964] But unfortunately, right now at least, people don't know that enough.

[2965] And maybe it's good that we're talking about it right now.

[2966] But the two of them together on that fucking show are a ruthless combination.

[2967] Dude, sometimes you have that chemistry with someone that's just you can't explain.

[2968] It's just magical.

[2969] And I hope those two dudes continue to ride that out because that's hard to achieve.

[2970] And when it happens, I should just keep it going.

[2971] It doesn't get enough attention.

[2972] It's one of those gems, those rare gems on earth where it's like, God, people don't know about this enough.

[2973] And it's like David Tell.

[2974] Yeah, David Tell, yeah.

[2975] Like, there's people that don't know enough about how good David tells.

[2976] Oh, he's so funny.

[2977] He might be the best comic alive.

[2978] Yeah, he had this.

[2979] Might be the best comic alive.

[2980] What joke was it?

[2981] I mean, I was dying.

[2982] He goes, you know that when a woman's riding you and she comes off, up off your dick, or as I like to call it, catching air, he goes, the distance between how far she came up and where your dick is is how big she wishes your dick was.

[2983] So fucking funny He always has new shit Yeah, he's just a prolific animal He's an animal Yeah, he's like a stand -up savant Yeah He wears the same clothes every night Yeah Never changes his appearance Same kind of baseball hat Murders every night He looks like he's robbing a bank Every night you see him He's got like an outfit on He's about to go get money from a teller Chain smoking with a mask below his chin He always has that mask Like below his chin Even on stage Yeah Yeah He wears a mask below his chin on stage.

[2984] It's hilarious.

[2985] I love them.

[2986] And I love you too, man. Thank you, man. That's it.

[2987] Thanks for doing this.

[2988] Tell everybody how to find you on social media.

[2989] Yeah, just Janus Pappas on all social media is my podcast, Long Days with Janus Pappas.

[2990] Please check it out.

[2991] And my special is on Amazon.

[2992] Oh, before we stop, didn't, what was going on where you were getting episodes deleted?

[2993] Yeah.

[2994] Oh, YouTube?

[2995] What was that?

[2996] YouTube.

[2997] What were they doing?

[2998] Yeah.

[2999] So the podcast, Long Days, I was doing these episodes.

[3000] I put them up.

[3001] And, um, on YouTube and then YouTube took one down right I appealed it they denied the appeal and then like two weeks later they took an episode down from like four to six months ago I can't remember how it was like when I started the podcast because it's fairly new I've only been doing it for a year and um and so I kept appealing and trying to find out like what did I do and went through all these hoops you probably you making talking about it probably is what overturned one of them they overturned one because then i finally got to human review and they were like yeah i was on because some fan time coded what i said at the moments that they finally told me why it got uh taken down like they right they told me these are the problematic time codes but they were nonsense it was fucking nonsense that's what we read the comedy we read the the the code we read those time codes we read like what the transcript of it was yeah it didn't make any sense doesn't make any sense it wasn't even remotely offensive i mean it's great one one was a joke about the gay Pride Parade and it was like me I was like you know I we all support gay rights I was like but can we please move the gay pride parade tonight so I can explain gay rights to my daughter I mean I don't want to see your asshole before noon yeah you know so it's just making a joke about the gay pride being a little naked and it's during the day yeah I don't care if you're gay or straight during the day we're having brunch I don't want to see your fucking asshole why is that offensive gay guys were messaging me on Twitter talking about how funny they thought well yeah one gay guy I remember message he goes he goes not only do I think it's funny he's like it's kind of true he was saying it he's like and I'm a gay guy yeah so I've seen guys with G strings and and those letters what are those called spats what are those things called that like horse guys wear chaps Jamie knows G strings and chaps yeah running running down Santa Monica during the gay pride parade yeah it's like all right dude like wide open asshole yeah I mean just because you know come on dude we can't have any type parade if you it's not appropriate I don't care what your sexuality is a string cover You're covering your hairy asshole.

[3002] It's just not appropriate.

[3003] It's not.

[3004] But it's just a joke.

[3005] Yeah.

[3006] So they banned that episode and they gave you a strike.

[3007] Well, that's what they said the time code was for.

[3008] I don't know if it's something else I said in the episode.

[3009] The other, I don't know if it was that episode or another episode.

[3010] I was making fun of Justin Bieber.

[3011] So I don't know.

[3012] What did you say about Justin Bieber?

[3013] I said that I said that I would love to be a fly on the wall at the Baldwin Thanksgiving dinner when he comes over to Stephen Baldwin's house.

[3014] and then I acted out Steve because Stephen Baldwin's like really right wing you know it's real funny Super Christian Yeah super Christian super right wing So I just had him calling like Justin Bieber Like asking him like come on man You transition like you used to be a woman You know because he just kind of looks kind of feminine And just the conversations they would have Like you guys are coming from that cuck town You know Stephen Stephen Ballwood just talking about L .A. Whether you got my daughter living over there And you know cucktown so it's going to just joking around Joking around And about Alec being there and then Alec and Stephen going at it.

[3015] Like, that family's fun because you follow Billy Baldwin.

[3016] He's like crazy woke.

[3017] Is he really?

[3018] Yeah, Billy Baldwin's like left wing, left wing.

[3019] And then Stephen is like crazy right wing.

[3020] Wow.

[3021] And then you got Alec who's like pretends to be left wing.

[3022] So, and then you got Justin Bieber's now in that family.

[3023] It's just a funny family dinner.

[3024] And they got you for that.

[3025] But all these things are just you commenting on stuff.

[3026] It's just comedy.

[3027] And talking shit.

[3028] Yeah, just talking shit.

[3029] This is a scary thing about.

[3030] YouTube is that you don't know what's going to be the thing that triggers you getting a strike and you can only get three strikes and they'll remove your channel you don't and I'm I was talking about all things that happen that are in reality and we're just joking it's just talking around just fucking just fucking shit I'm like like there's got to be a way to label your channels like this is comedy look if you don't like like what's this thing like you don't like something you get it banned right what the hell is that right what the fuck is that right like is Putin are you Putin but But they think they're shaping culture.

[3031] That's what's interesting.

[3032] They think by denying...

[3033] Yeah, Putin thinks he's doing that too.

[3034] Denying certain things that they think are toxic, certain opinions they think are toxic.

[3035] Even toxic comedy.

[3036] Like, how can you speak on behalf of what other people like?

[3037] It's crazy.

[3038] Well, it's a problem with limiting free speech.

[3039] Yeah.

[3040] When you limit free speech, you make it subjective.

[3041] Like, what is acceptable and what's not?

[3042] And a lot of times it's based on what other people think people should do and say instead of what, you know, just allowing a person to be themselves.

[3043] Yeah, I mean, those are the tenets of facts.

[3044] People like people talking shit about things.

[3045] Yeah, so people just talk and having fun.

[3046] Fun lesson.

[3047] And people have different tastes.

[3048] I mean, comedians are actually only barometer that exists for you to know if you're free.

[3049] I mean, if comics weren't crossing the line or how would you know you're free?

[3050] You wouldn't.

[3051] That's the only real barometer out there that kind of lets you know that freedom is still happening.

[3052] Here, here.

[3053] Yonis Poppice, ladies and gentlemen.

[3054] Bye, everybody.

[3055] Bye.