#390 - Mac Lethal

[0] The Joe Rogan experience.

[1] Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

[2] My friend, welcome.

[3] Thank you, man. MacLethel.

[4] It's an honor to be here.

[5] I really appreciate it.

[6] Rapper, author, all around cool guy, video maker.

[7] All sorts of shit.

[8] You're a bad motherfucker, dude.

[9] Jiu -Jitsu practitioner.

[10] That's a new.

[11] All the above.

[12] Yeah.

[13] How long you be doing that?

[14] I'm going on my third year.

[15] Are you enjoying it?

[16] Loving it.

[17] That's cool.

[18] Loving it.

[19] What's Jim?

[20] Give a shout out to your gym.

[21] Kansas City Brazilian Jiu -Jitsu, which is under the Hanata.

[22] Ocevarez Association and run by Black Belt Jason Bercher and then HDMMA which is run by Jason High who just won a fight last week Jason nice talented dude man that Kansas City is really fucking that's a cool town it's like one of the underrated cool towns very much so in fact the New York Post did an article on the top 10 places in the world that are underrated and it was number three because it's number one Istanbul Turkey get the fuck out of here that's ridiculous Kansas City should be number one yeah I agree America by default you get 50 extra points I agree yeah why because I'm rude I'm a rude American amazing barbecue is there friendly people a lot of fountains there's a lot of culture there jazz the barbecue is huge I watched an episode of Anthony Bourdain show where did he go where did he go do you remember I don't remember the name was it in a gas station I think one of them was yeah that's Oklahoma Joe's that's one of the most famous one very famous hey Brian can we kill this new TV because this is kind of freaking me out.

[23] It's almost like too much to the left.

[24] Too much distraction.

[25] What is that again?

[26] It's a 4K.

[27] It's a 4K TV.

[28] It's like four times a resolution of a 1080, you know, HD TV.

[29] And yeah, they're they have a code for if you want to get a 50 inch.

[30] Just type in Joe Rogan at 4K special .com.

[31] They get for $999.

[32] Beautiful.

[33] If you haven't seen it, they just sent it to us and we don't know how to use it yet, so it just plays this one 4K loop that they have.

[34] This, a amazing loop of high definition moving images, but it's all like Japanese girls in nature.

[35] And it's like it's too much short attention span from my ADD brain.

[36] And I fucking shut down.

[37] I agree.

[38] That last episode that we did, the whole time I just found myself staring off in this space.

[39] Yeah, it was freaking me out.

[40] I love the fact that 4K shit is becoming consumer stuff, though.

[41] Because once the cameras get in the hands of the people, we're going to be able to make our own fucking feature -length films that look like the shit at the movie theaters.

[42] Well, it's actually the weird, there's a weird thing that happens with video.

[43] as opposed to film that a lot of people don't like and that it makes you see everything you see the background you see the foreground like it's not like it's a weird kind of quality to watching it and people go it makes it look fake but honestly film looks fake that looks like real life right like the video thing looks like but we're just not used to that right and 4K and that kind of shit is going to be like super duper high definition detail and Galaxy Note 3 has 4K They just announced it It comes out in like two weeks Yeah we were just talking about that Weren't we talking about that on the podcast Yeah but we're going to be able to just go to like a show Film shit and put it on that TV Not only that Do it off of a phone Yeah That's ridiculous insane That's one problem with Apple man They're fucking slacken they're so far behind When it comes to screen size We're testing out new screen sizes What is it 2009 you fuck heads Are you crazy?

[44] Yeah they just jumped up They should have jumped up on all this 4k all this like letting allowing samsung and companies like this to come out with this kind of mind -blowing shit way in advance the style like actually they had a they had a fucking big thing that you would carry around with a stylist way back in the 90s do you remember that yeah what was that called like the apple cleef or something something really dumb like tiered i think it had like a name it wasn't like a mcintosh but like something along those lines and it was it was like they had a stylus Newton Newton yeah couldn't you like draw on it yeah yeah yeah I think yeah yeah I when I first came to Hollywood I was walking around with this executive he was showing me around Disney and he had one of those bad boys and he was so happy with it and I was like this is so awkward like you're carrying that around but it was pretty dope it was pretty Star Trek that's it right there and apparently it hooked to a keyboard, not a stylist, or you could attach a keyboard to it somehow or another.

[45] Wow, that looks badass.

[46] Yeah.

[47] Those are probably worth money today, right?

[48] Oh, yeah, yeah, I think that goes for, like, thousands, thousands of dards.

[49] Wow, for, like, just geeks, one of them, like, framed up in their house.

[50] Smelling them.

[51] I would just smell it for an hour.

[52] Do I have to, like, hide this logo?

[53] No, no, we, that stuff, that Cocoa Cafe, they send it to us.

[54] Oh, good.

[55] They're badass.

[56] The C2O and Coconut Cafe, those guys are Cocoa Cafe.

[57] Cocoa Cafe is dope because it's got a little bit of...

[58] Notice there's a rapper here.

[59] I've started to use rap colloquially.

[60] What are you like you're like Quentin Tarantino and black people?

[61] Exactly.

[62] Have you ever seen some of that?

[63] What?

[64] Quinn Tarantino talking to black people?

[65] No. Oh my goodness.

[66] What is it a YouTube thing?

[67] Yes.

[68] Quinn Tarantino, who is my favorite director.

[69] Mine too.

[70] He's my favorite artist.

[71] I mean, bottom line, artist.

[72] I'm not shitting on him in any way, shape, or form.

[73] But he's obviously a crazy person.

[74] And that's okay.

[75] Most of my best friends are crazy But his crazy manifests itself In the fact that he's some sort of a strange chameleon Like I heard him on the Howard Stern show And he almost sounded like he was gay It was weird, he was like effeminate And this is not saying Howard's gay I never would insult Howard Stern ever But he sounded like almost effeminate And then you hear him on The Jamie Fox show And all of a sudden he was black And I was like, this is really weird Because he's hanging out with Jamie Fox Doing radio with Jamie Fox and he's talking so black.

[76] I mean, so ridiculous.

[77] Well, this is, I'm going to show you an example.

[78] Oh, it's coming.

[79] Now, it's really uncomfortable.

[80] We're going to have to get, like, something we can show the contrast.

[81] So he's hanging out with these black people on a BET.

[82] What is the most famous line?

[83] Your favorite line from pop fiction?

[84] I think probably the most famous line is, I'm gonna get me evil on your ass.

[85] Big Rames says it.

[86] It gets way crazier.

[87] How pleasing your fans or pleasing the critics for you?

[88] Oh, interesting question actually.

[89] Did he like almost fuck it up?

[90] I want to please my fans.

[91] I don't want to please the critics that are my fans.

[92] The critics ain't my fans.

[93] I don't give a damn.

[94] I mean, he's making shit, right.

[95] That's amazing.

[96] It's insanity.

[97] When you're working with Quentin, you know that he see him do other interviews where he talks to regular media people, like on CNN or Fox News, and none of this ever comes out.

[98] Well, he almost broke character at first.

[99] He was kind of getting into his gay voice, and then he went, oh, oh, and it, like, it dropped a little deeper.

[100] Well, I think a guy who's that good at making movies, he's that good of capturing human drama.

[101] Right.

[102] He must be just like a sponge, you know.

[103] Like he just sits in the mirror and just goes through a roll of decks of characters probably.

[104] Could be.

[105] Yeah.

[106] But a better guy like that, it's hard for him to differentiate between, you know, who he is and who he's talking to.

[107] Didn't he grow up in Englewood, right?

[108] Did he really?

[109] Yeah, he grew up in the hood, to my knowledge.

[110] And his whole thing was when he was younger, there was a movie theater which he now owns.

[111] And I believe it's in Englewood and part of the, like a rundown part of Englewood.

[112] And all he did, his mom would just send him to the theater.

[113] And all he did was watch black exploitation films.

[114] When he was like six years old, over and.

[115] over so they just played kung fu movies and black exploitation films at this theater and that's all he did and that's why he like has co -opted that kind of style and it's very fascinating how he kind of regurgitates it into his films but he relates he on a very deep level relates to black people I believe I believe it I believe it and again his middle name is Jerome I can't pretend I'm not criticizing him I was obviously goofing on him but I completely understand that it's probably the very particular type of weirdness that you get by being so so like in tune to other people's behavior it's almost like he can't differentiate between himself and who he's talking to right if he's talking to someone he becomes like them right you know it's weird well there might be like it might even be a mechanism for him to process emotions or something like if that makes sense like maybe there was like a certain character in some of these old black exploitation films that when he would talk a certain way he felt like he could convey what he was feeling.

[116] So he would adopt that in order to do that himself.

[117] Right.

[118] It's almost like when he's talking to Howard Stern, like he was being like very submissive.

[119] Right.

[120] Because, you know, submissive to the king, you know, and then he was talking to Jamie Foxes, let him know, man. Let him know, dog.

[121] I'm one of the brothers, boy.

[122] So you know, whatever it is, it makes him that guy, you know, also makes him do that.

[123] I'm really concerned about him quitting, though.

[124] Because well, he recently stated that the way that they display films in movie theaters now is quote unquote television and public because they don't show film anymore.

[125] It's just all digital.

[126] And he says he did not sign up to do this and he's considering fucking quitting, just walking on the whole thing, which would be terrible.

[127] That would be a devastating blow to all of us and I don't even think people grasp that.

[128] That's interesting.

[129] So the medium is very important to him, not just...

[130] He still films in film.

[131] I mean, he uses tons of film, refuses to switch over, refuses to adapt.

[132] That's how he came up and they let him do it because they have to, because people see his movies still.

[133] I would wonder what his reasoning is.

[134] Film is a lot cheaper.

[135] Is that it?

[136] I thought it was more expensive.

[137] It was now, but now digital is cheaper.

[138] Really?

[139] Yeah.

[140] Or, I mean, wait, film's more cheaper because no one's using it, so it's cheaper too.

[141] But isn't it still very expensive to digitize all the film and go through that, like, arduous process of getting all the foot?

[142] Yeah, you would have to be.

[143] Yeah, it seems as it has to be.

[144] Yeah.

[145] I don't know.

[146] We had Davy on, he's doing, he did a, he used to be on that show that I did.

[147] And he's, they did something with Bones on.

[148] Yeah.

[149] And he did something with Bice.

[150] He did a short film that was in a Sundance.

[151] And they said that they used film because it was cheaper to film on nowadays than using like a really high -end digital camera.

[152] That's crazy.

[153] That's interesting.

[154] Yeah.

[155] Well, like we were saying, like, it definitely looks different.

[156] Like if you film, like, you could make a cool film with like really good actors, but do it on like one of those regular of VHS cameras.

[157] Oh, yeah.

[158] Fuck yeah.

[159] It's shit.

[160] Even if you had good angles.

[161] It would look too weird.

[162] It would look too Mexican soap opera.

[163] You know?

[164] Yeah.

[165] Like, it's a weird thing that's very difficult to describe when you watch, like, a Mexican soap opera.

[166] I don't watch many of those, but I will say that you like, you want that kind of glossy film look.

[167] It just, it conveys a different message.

[168] I don't know.

[169] Like those consumer camcorders, they're just, you know, everybody had one when they were a kid, And they tried to make fucking short films like me and my friends did.

[170] And they just looked like shit.

[171] You could never quite capture the life that you wanted to.

[172] It's also a weird thing that's kind of been established, that visual quality, the visual quality of film.

[173] It's like what we go to expect when we sit in the movie theater.

[174] We want to see a film.

[175] Right.

[176] Yeah, I'm getting into watching a lot of older movies lately.

[177] Yeah.

[178] Like I watched the Steve McQueen movie, Le Mans, the other day.

[179] I never seen Le Mans.

[180] Oh, man. It's really interesting because it's almost like a snapshot.

[181] shot of the time.

[182] It's not just a film.

[183] It's almost like it's a film that shows you how people lived back then, like how they walked around and acted because a lot of the movie, like the first 10 minutes of the movie has no dialogue.

[184] At least 10 minutes.

[185] What's the, like, what's the setup of the movie?

[186] Well, it's about race car drivers.

[187] Okay.

[188] Steve McQueen's a race car driver and there's another dude.

[189] Yeah, I don't want to say that I can't commit to saying I've seen it, but it sounds more familiar now.

[190] I couldn't finish it.

[191] I watched it for a little A lot of old films are hard to fucking finish, man. I give up on them.

[192] Like, I try to always be cool and be like, oh, I'm going to watch, you know, this fucking old 1972 French movie, and then I pop it in, and it's just, dude, five minutes in, asleep.

[193] I mean, there's something to be said about modern cinema.

[194] It's a little better, you know?

[195] Yeah, there's some interesting shit that was done.

[196] Like, I remember enjoying Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf, which is basically all, I think all takes place in one house.

[197] You know, it's just a conversation between a bunch of people.

[198] and that's like some old shit the hustler I'll still watch the hustler I'll still watch that I watch that again that's a good one though because I like billiards as well and in watching that that all take place and like how many hours do they play for the on the first fucking where they're the first confrontation like three days or something like that it's like almost two days yeah it's just there's something epic about it but it's that's a good one and a lot of those Paul Newman films are exceptions like HUD That's another one I like Cool Hand Luke That's another one Paul Newman was a bad motherfucker Very bad motherfucker He barely made any lemons Really?

[199] Yeah I mean think about the shitty movies That Paul Newman made I really can't I can't come up with one You know I can't come up with I don't I'm not familiar enough With his entire catalog I remember Stallone did that comedy movie With his mother Oh it was uh Girl Mama from the train Yeah Was that it?

[200] No no no no no this was What was it called This is gonna drive me be fucking nuts.

[201] And wasn't it the same woman that was in Golden Girls that played the old woman, but she had a brown hair?

[202] Oh, this is going to drive me nuts.

[203] I don't know.

[204] What are you, an old lady trivia person?

[205] How do you know that?

[206] I don't know.

[207] It seems like I remember.

[208] Okay, well, let's just look up, Stallone.

[209] Was it like a comedy film?

[210] Oscar.

[211] It was.

[212] It was Oscar.

[213] Oscar was one.

[214] That's the one that I'm thinking of.

[215] Yeah, well, he definitely had one called Oscar.

[216] That's not the one I was thinking.

[217] You were thinking of the through mama from the train one.

[218] But it wasn't throw mama from the train.

[219] The throw mama from the train was that old gross lady from like Goonies or something like that.

[220] Oh, the Fratelli.

[221] Or My Mom Will Shoot.

[222] Stop or my mom will shoot.

[223] Okay.

[224] So he did two comedies in a row.

[225] He did Oscar and then he did Stop or My Mom will shoot.

[226] That's how retarded people were in the 90s.

[227] They're like, you know what?

[228] Forget all these great comedians we have.

[229] We need to get Stallone up there.

[230] They just kept giving them money.

[231] My old lady trivia.

[232] Look at this.

[233] was the old lady Estelle Getty from golden girls with brown hair that's so crazy and look at him and he's like ma I can't believe what you're doing over there what are you doing ma with that gun can't even leave you alone for a second look at the look at his face man oh my I can't believe this look how little my gun is look at big yours is has it been confirmed or or like completely confirmed that he actually started out doing because that's a rumor.

[234] Oh, yeah, no, he did a movie.

[235] He did, like, a softcore movie.

[236] But was it like, oh, so it was softcore movie?

[237] Yeah, yeah.

[238] So he wasn't, like, laying pipe on film.

[239] I don't think so.

[240] All right.

[241] It might have been.

[242] Might have been laying pipe, but I'm pretty sure they didn't show it if he was.

[243] I think it was like an angle thing.

[244] Okay.

[245] And they wanted to sell it to him for a million dollars.

[246] He was like, it wouldn't give you 10 cents to that piece of shit.

[247] Ew.

[248] My mother's got a gun.

[249] She's fucking shoot you.

[250] He's like five, too.

[251] And then he, no, he's not.

[252] He's not?

[253] No, everybody says that.

[254] Everybody said it.

[255] People always say that about Tom Cruise.

[256] I met Stallone.

[257] Maybe he had some shit in his shoes, but I'm 5 '8, and he was taller than me. He was taller than...

[258] I thought he had to stand on a platform in Rocky.

[259] That's the other rumor.

[260] I don't know.

[261] When he fought Apollo Creed, they had him stand on a platform because he wasn't tired of.

[262] I don't think Carl Weathers is very tall.

[263] Really?

[264] No. They couldn't have had him stand on a platform because then you would see his feet.

[265] Because he was in a cage.

[266] But as far as...

[267] I mean, a ring, rather.

[268] To my knowledge, a lot of those shots...

[269] are from the waist up because of...

[270] Well, Carl Weathers is 6 -2.

[271] It's listed that he's 6 -2.

[272] And Stallone was...

[273] If I had a guess, I would say, 5 -11, 5 -10.

[274] But dudes wear lifts in their shoes.

[275] You never know.

[276] Right.

[277] Right.

[278] Isn't there a website called How Tall is Stallone?

[279] How tall is Stallone?

[280] What a website.

[281] How many hits they get a day?

[282] There's like a how tall is Arnold, like an Arnold Schwarzenegger.

[283] One of them, either Stallone, Tom Cruise, or Arnold Schwarzenegger has a website dedicated to finding out exactly how tall they are.

[284] It's probably Tom Cruise.

[285] Because Tom Cruise, when he did that movie with Brad Pitt, did have, like, a setup where he was like on an elevated floor, whereas they would walk their path, he would be height to height with Brad Pitt.

[286] Yeah.

[287] Well, he played, and I don't think that was necessary, but in his mind, the character had to be commensurate with Brad Pitt's character.

[288] Right.

[289] You know, Brad Pitt's character was tall.

[290] Interview with a vampire?

[291] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[292] Which was, you know, I thought, like, the best role he ever played.

[293] I think he was fucking amazing in that.

[294] Tom Cruise?

[295] Yeah.

[296] But Tom Cruise, he fucking nailed it.

[297] I mean, he's a great actor.

[298] He might do a lot of cheese movies.

[299] He's got some good ones, man. He's got some good ones.

[300] I really liked eyes wide shut.

[301] I'm one of the few fans of that movie.

[302] These are 10 pictures of Tom Cruise being tall, where they've had him on, like, you know, so he appears tall.

[303] I don't understand that.

[304] So they appears tall?

[305] Yeah, see, look, they have them appearing tall.

[306] He's 5 -7.

[307] She's actually 5 -8, and he's still taller than her almost.

[308] But how do they know he's five, seven?

[309] And how do they know that that's, that's not, he's not actually taller?

[310] Yeah, but see, I don't buy this.

[311] I don't either.

[312] I think this is bullshit.

[313] I got to be honest.

[314] Dude, go back to the one with, go back to the one with Phillips.

[315] With college humor.

[316] Phillips Seymour Hoffman is like 6 .3.

[317] Yeah, but he wasn't even in that one.

[318] Yeah, that's, it makes sense.

[319] Yeah, because he was in disguise.

[320] This is parody.

[321] Because it's, no, it's because it's Mission Impossible.

[322] He was in disguise.

[323] The last one was a joke.

[324] He went in disguise as Philip Seymour Hoffman in Mission Impossible?

[325] That was a mask that he ends up point off.

[326] I've never seen any of the Mission Impossible's with Tom Cruise.

[327] They're rough.

[328] Yeah.

[329] They're rough to watch.

[330] When you see a guy like Phillips See Hoffmore in him, you're like, man, really?

[331] Yeah.

[332] It sucks.

[333] He does too much of that shit, man, and he doesn't fucking have to.

[334] Well, I bet he does.

[335] But he's got a mortgage.

[336] You want to do his indie movies?

[337] They want to put him in every movie at this point.

[338] I mean, there's not a fucking movie where he doesn't have some sort of weird role, method -actory role, you know.

[339] He's awesome.

[340] He's the best.

[341] He played Truman Capote, and he's 6 '2, and Truman Capote was like 5 -5.

[342] Was he really?

[343] And he spent, as far as I know, he spent, I think, like, a year and a half, and never broke character.

[344] And his real life always talked like Truman Capote.

[345] That's so gross.

[346] Yeah, it's fucking awful.

[347] Those people need help.

[348] Yeah.

[349] That's like Daniel Day Lewis sleeping outside when he made Last of the Mohicans.

[350] He slept in a fucking tent.

[351] I don't know if that helped his performance, but whatever.

[352] Yeah, Daniel D. Lewis was a boxer for a whole year for when he played that Irish, the IRA guy.

[353] And he looked like, he looked like, he was a boxer.

[354] He looked like, he was the best as far as actors portraying boxers.

[355] It was the most accurate.

[356] Like non -boxers trying to cross over and, like, not Marky Mark or fucking Sylvester Stallone or anybody like that.

[357] Yeah, well, could they say that Marky Mark?

[358] Mark has some professional boxing experience, but there's a way that people throw punches when no one's ever punched them.

[359] Right.

[360] And there's a way that people throw punches when they've actually known how to box.

[361] And they're totally different.

[362] Right.

[363] The way that people throw punches, when they're not worried about being punched back, they have this open wide, I'm fucking going to kill you sort of thing.

[364] But whereas if you watch Daniel Day Lewis, he threw punches like a boxer.

[365] Like he's worried about getting punched back.

[366] Looking for openings.

[367] His guard's tight.

[368] I wonder if he did some like intense sparring to get to that point.

[369] Oh, he did.

[370] He lived as a boxer for like a year.

[371] Dude, he's fucking nuts.

[372] Did he, like, did he, like, wake up at four in the morning and jog and drink eggs?

[373] He was an excellent, I don't think anybody really drinks eggs anymore.

[374] That's just another movie thing.

[375] I think that, I think you could get really sick.

[376] Yeah, you can get fucking salmonella from it, right?

[377] Salmon, I think.

[378] Yeah, you can do it.

[379] Yeah, there's a lot of fucking weird shit and eating raw animal flesh.

[380] Yeah, it's not a good idea.

[381] Yeah.

[382] Can you get chrachinosis?

[383] No, that's only from predators, right?

[384] Or scavengers?

[385] Is vegan cheese good for you?

[386] I had a lot of vegan cheese the other day, and it did not digest right.

[387] Like, it really fucked me up, man. Depends on who's making it and what they're using to make it with.

[388] I think a lot of them, when you have vegan cheese on things, they use that, what is it called, yeast, like a nutritional yeast, I think it's called?

[389] But I heard that stuff's not very good for you.

[390] Yeah, it came out like fireballs, like undigested fireballs of blob.

[391] It was like asteroids.

[392] Well, the rest, the best cheese for you, apparently.

[393] the easiest to digest is non -homogenized, non -pasteurized cheese that you get in Europe.

[394] They have a completely different kind of cheese because they don't have to pasteurize and homogenize their milk.

[395] So if you have cheese that's made with a raw milk, it's got a lot of different enzymes and different qualities to it.

[396] Apparently it tastes a lot better, too.

[397] Yeah, everything.

[398] How'd have you got a fucking cheese conversation.

[399] I know, we were talking about Daniel Day Lewis.

[400] Oh, he's drinking eggs.

[401] Yeah, you can't.

[402] Trichinosis, is a weird one.

[403] Trichinosis, 90 % of all cases of trichinosis come from people eating bear meat.

[404] I don't know what, what is.

[405] Trichinosis is what they always worry.

[406] You always worry about getting from pork.

[407] I've had trichinosis.

[408] You have, and you don't know what it was?

[409] They said it was Traveler's diarrhea.

[410] Is that the same thing?

[411] Oh, I don't think so.

[412] I was on my ass for like a week and a half.

[413] It was fucking awful.

[414] I had a brat worst and was, I'm not like exaggerating.

[415] Traveler's diarrhea.

[416] Yeah.

[417] See if it's chicken.

[418] Because if it is, I've had it And it's fucking miserable Did you have to go on PDO light?

[419] Yeah, when I was after after Actually, I got to the point where I checked myself into the hospital And they put me in an IV because I was so low on fluid Dude, no exaggeration I would go to the bathroom a hundred times a day I mean, it got to the point where I would just stay in there Because my body was trying to push it out I've been there, but not for a week It was four days, so fucking gnarly, man It was terrible Terrible I had to get like this very sensitive aloe vera toilet paper because I was just raw as hell.

[420] Here's what it is.

[421] T .D. or Traveler's diarrhea?

[422] You have T .D. Oh.

[423] Thank God you abbreviated it.

[424] I would have been offended by the word diarrhea.

[425] It's the most common illness affecting travelers.

[426] Each year between 20 to 50 % of international travelers and estimated 10 million persons develop diarrhea.

[427] The onset of TD usually occurs within the first week of travel, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, But high -risk destinations are developing countries, Latin America, Africa, the Middle East, and Asia.

[428] That's funny, the Middle East, I call it developing country.

[429] Is this from water?

[430] Or is this from the, like, the meat that they eat?

[431] It doesn't really say here.

[432] You still use toilet paper?

[433] I just use wet wipes.

[434] I don't use toilet paper to...

[435] Hope you don't flush those wet wipes.

[436] I do.

[437] Well, you're an idiot.

[438] These things are going to clog up your toilet.

[439] I know, we've talked about this, but I've been doing it for like 10 years, seven years.

[440] The other thing is I travel and tour a lot, so I can never think to get them.

[441] I always forget them if I do.

[442] I mean, I like them.

[443] I get it.

[444] You got to throw them away and not flush them.

[445] They feel much better.

[446] Yeah, I mean, if you're in a hotel and you don't give a fuck and you might be an asshole, flush them.

[447] But trust me, dude, they're going to come back to haunt you.

[448] Or whoever owns your house.

[449] That's the real problem.

[450] If you own your house, you're like, who cares?

[451] That'll, like, permanently damage the plumbing in your house, won't it?

[452] No, not necessarily.

[453] So you have a little trash can with all these stinky butt wipes next to your toilet?

[454] it's like a little litter box for you that's what it is oh it's a litter box for you lord have mercy um i have a bidet oh i clean my butt like a gentleman so i could probably put a garden house in there i'm gonna install one of those bidet toilets here i know i have one i just have to bring it in um what causes travelers diarrhea okay infectious agents are the primary cause bacterial endopathogens cause approximately 80 % of diseases of the cases most common causative agent isolated in country surveyed has been Oterooxygenic Asheratia coli A type of coli Yeah fuck those little assholes It's not fun I'm sure so how they get rid of it They throw some poison down the pipe Yeah they gave me some medicine and it cleared it out Did it jack your your intestinal flora for like a long time?

[455] I don't know what do you mean?

[456] What do you mean?

[457] When you Healthy people have a certain amount of like, see this shit I drink?

[458] This is kombucha?

[459] You ever had any of this?

[460] No, I've seen it.

[461] It's a probiotic drink, and it actually has live organisms that you're digesting, and live organisms like just in much in the same way that yogurt has acidophilus, which is a milk culture.

[462] Yeah, culture.

[463] When you have live bacteria that you ingest or probiotics, it actually helps fight off diseases.

[464] It can actually regulate your mood.

[465] It makes your immune system far strong.

[466] Really?

[467] Yeah.

[468] They say that the acidophilus bacteria, that the acidophilus flora, rather, actually fights off.

[469] Like, when you contact, like, something with your hands, the acidophilus flora is an aggressive flora.

[470] And it's on your skin, and it actually will keep other things from infecting you as easily.

[471] Do you think that's the next raw egg, though?

[472] Like, in, like, 10 years you're going to be like, yeah, he was drinking bacteria for a while.

[473] I mean.

[474] No. No, no, because your body's filled with bacteria.

[475] Yeah, but what are they?

[476] question.

[477] No, your whole body, your body needs bacteria for everything, needs bacteria for digestion, needs bacteria to, I mean, it's, you're an entire ecosystem of bacteria.

[478] There's more E. coli living in your gut than they've ever been people ever, and you have to have that.

[479] Not only do you have to have that, you have to have a series of different kinds of bacteria inside of you.

[480] So when you take antibiotics, if you take antibiotics on a long scale, like if you take some hardcore shit, they tell you you always take acidophilus when you're recovering from that.

[481] They want you to.

[482] to take in healthy bacteria and try to repopulate your gut.

[483] Like, we have this isolated idea of the human body that it's just a one, but it's an ecosystem.

[484] Like, your body relies on a bunch of different shit to stay alive in you.

[485] It's really weird.

[486] It's kind of weird.

[487] Yeah, it's very weird.

[488] But this stuff's big, this, this, uh, kombucha.

[489] And that regulates the intestinal floor.

[490] What keeps you've been getting sick, man. It's incredible how well it works to keep me from getting sick.

[491] I travel a lot and I almost never get sick.

[492] Yeah, so do I. I mean, I've, found that just washing my hands and taking multivitamist keeps me for getting sick, too.

[493] That's a big one.

[494] Washing the hands is a big.

[495] The hands are the worst, man, because you shake so many people's hands, as I'm sure you do with your fans and stuff, and you don't want to be a dick.

[496] And then the worst is if you, you know, rub your eye or your nose, it's you're fucked.

[497] Well, I also think it's good for your immune system to shake that many people's hands.

[498] Because you get all that bacteria on and gives your immune system something to do.

[499] I think your body gets used to being around other people.

[500] They've shown that people who grow up in in households where the parents are like really obsessed with cleaning, those kids, a lot of times develop allergies easier than kids who grow up in a house with like two cats and two dogs.

[501] And as usual, folks have done no testing on any of these theories that I'm throwing out there.

[502] I've heard them and they make sense to me. I think that it's true because there's a lot, I'm not sure if you've ever heard of research.

[503] There's a lot of third world countries that are below the equator that have a lot of people that are infected with hookworms and none of them have asthma or allergies and there was a guy that had this like debilitating asthma and he did research on it and found that hookworms if you're infected by hookworms will prevent asthma and he went to Malawi and walked through a fucking latrine and tried to infect himself with hookworms got infected and it cured his asthma and then he tried to start a company selling fucking hookworms to people you can what This was on this American life.

[504] It's one of the craziest things I've ever heard of him.

[505] That is hilarious.

[506] And he got shut down.

[507] He's not able to do it.

[508] You can totally fucking Google this.

[509] What is the negative aspects of having hookworm in your body?

[510] I'm not really sure.

[511] I mean, I don't know.

[512] Most people in third world countries just have them.

[513] They just, yeah, they're infected by them.

[514] But what you're saying is true because allergies and asthma aren't present in a lot of those countries.

[515] Like you can't find asthma in certain parts of South America and African countries.

[516] No, we went to Cameroon.

[517] That's right, Cameroon.

[518] Wow, that's fascinating.

[519] But it totally makes sense.

[520] Right.

[521] It totally makes, it really is.

[522] And a whole ecosystem you're carrying around in your shoes.

[523] Yeah, and you need those antibodies, and you need all that bacteria.

[524] Yeah.

[525] We've over -sterilized our country.

[526] Yeah, yeah, we certainly have.

[527] And, you know, people worried about their kids touching things, and you really need to touch things.

[528] You know, you need to get your body out there.

[529] I love that George Carlin bit where he talks about how he used to swim and shit.

[530] That's why he never got sick because they swim in...

[531] The Hudson?

[532] Yeah, the Hudson.

[533] They swam in raw sewage and shit, so they never got sick.

[534] Yeah, that's an amazing thing about New York.

[535] If you go around New York and, like, especially if you're in a helicopter or anything when you get to look down and see the water or look over the bridge, it's dirty as fuck.

[536] I mean, and no one is trying to fix it.

[537] No one is saying, like, what we really need to do is make this water crystal clear so our children can swim in it.

[538] They're like, it's never going to happen.

[539] Do kids still swimming in it?

[540] No, it's fucking terrible.

[541] I mean, I'm sure someone does some crazy kids, but it's really bad for you.

[542] Apparently, there's parts of Brooklyn where more oil has spilled off of Brooklyn than the Exxon Valdez.

[543] Let me, let me pull that up.

[544] Brooklyn, because it was an article that I was reading about yachters, toxic water.

[545] I think it was a vice thing.

[546] Sounds like something they would want to brag about, though.

[547] I don't think it's a brag thing It was a I can't find it That hookworm picture looks disturbing Isn't that skit?

[548] This is a hookworm's face Yeah they're evil as fuck They look like Something from the movie Alien Yeah Okay here it is His name was Jasper Lawrence And he's He infected himself with hookworms To treat severe allergies This is in the fucking news And it worked And it completely worked.

[549] So he tried to start a company and the FDA shut him down.

[550] That's so crazy.

[551] Yeah.

[552] The FDA classified his kits as pharmaceuticals and told him he was under investigation.

[553] He then fled the United States.

[554] Apparently, though, people that purchased the hookworms that came from his body were having trouble administering them.

[555] Because they would try to inject them into their veins.

[556] It was the only way to administer them.

[557] What?

[558] That's so nasty.

[559] Did you just put it in your butthole?

[560] We had this infectious disease expert on the Joe Rogan Questions Everything show, and he told me that people in, when you come to, like, tropical countries, he said everybody has something.

[561] Everybody's infected with something.

[562] He was explaining all these different diseases that we're not exactly sure about, like when they talk about toxoplasma and different parasites and all these different things.

[563] He's like 100 % of the people that live in these places are infected.

[564] with something there's no way to avoid it it's fucking yeah he's like that's the reality of being a human being in a tropical climate and i was like wow like you you can't get away from something there you just exist with it just because the climate is so conducive to incubating all the bacteria i wonder um i don't know you know i don't know i'm sure that's part of it i'm sure also it's got to be part of it that some of this stuff is passed on through mother and son or mother and daughter i would assume some of it you know i don't know i don't know how that works did they I mean, do things like pathogens, do they get passed on to children?

[565] Yeah, I imagine so.

[566] I have no idea.

[567] Weird fucking jungle diseases and shit.

[568] Terrifying, man. Yeah.

[569] I'm scared of the fucking jungle.

[570] Well, whenever you get hot, when you get hot and moist, what you get is competition.

[571] The reason why the jungle is so fucking scary is because there's so much life.

[572] Right.

[573] And when you get it at any place that has condensed life and just complete isolation from human like influence like no one's going in there and building shopping malls and there's no roads everywhere and you know trees aren't getting default I mean they're cutting down trees to log but what is what is forest is forest what is jungle is jungle there might be killing the jungle but once you actually get into the jungle the amount of competition in that jungle is insane there's fucking ants killing everything they have ants that march an army so strong can hear them walking they have all sorts of different army ants and poisonous ants and incredible amounts of toxic spiders and snakes and then there's course there's jaguars it's just incredibly dense oh it's crazy yeah so it's what you're dealing with in the rainforest is incredibly dense life like everything insect life reptile life animal life all of it like coalescing together and you just have an immense amount of competition when you have an immense amount of competition you're going to have diseases yeah You're going to have problems.

[574] You're going to have, you know, the amount of moisture there, the heat, the carcasses are going to rot and just, you know, all the things that feed off of carcasses and the diseases, infectious, airborne, do -da -da -da -da -da in the water.

[575] I mean, they have fucking, they have parasites that swim up your dick.

[576] I've heard about that.

[577] Yeah.

[578] And bite the shit out of you.

[579] You have to cover the head of your cock when you piss because they're attracted to urine.

[580] And they find, when you're in the water, if you try to pee in the water, they fucking.

[581] swim upstream.

[582] They find your piss, swim up through it.

[583] So they, they sense your piss and they go after you.

[584] Exactly.

[585] And they go up your pee hole.

[586] What's the fish?

[587] There's a fish that has human teeth.

[588] Have you seen this?

[589] Yes.

[590] And they'll bite your testicles off.

[591] Of course they will.

[592] Yeah.

[593] You ever seen that shit?

[594] The fucking, they have human fucking teeth, man. They look very human like.

[595] Yeah.

[596] It's fucking crazy.

[597] There was a monkey in a zoo.

[598] Was it in China that ripped off some baby's balls?

[599] Oh, man. Ripped off a eight months old.

[600] testicles for he's eating them.

[601] Oh, why the balls, man. Because he's a fucking cunty monkey.

[602] There was just a piece that he could grab and yank off.

[603] He probably's already yanked off people's balls.

[604] That's so...

[605] Is that real?

[606] Yes, that's real.

[607] That's so strange.

[608] Look, if you can find one, there's one where it actually shows them.

[609] There, yeah, look.

[610] Those teeth are better than some comics, I know.

[611] Look at the roof of its mouth.

[612] It has multiple layers of teeth.

[613] Oh, that's so freaky.

[614] And I want to say that they have found these in lakes in Illinois.

[615] because these were native to Massachusetts.

[616] Yeah, Massachusetts.

[617] What is the, what's the fish called?

[618] It's a P, what is, it begins with a P. That's so weird.

[619] Look at that photo.

[620] That's so fucking weird.

[621] Worst blowjob ever.

[622] Or best.

[623] Or best, yeah.

[624] Oh, why you creeps.

[625] What is it called, Brian?

[626] I want to say it's like a Peku fish.

[627] Sheepshed.

[628] Sheep's head.

[629] Sheep's head.

[630] Yeah.

[631] Yeah, that's what it said.

[632] Yeah, that's a sheep's head.

[633] It's also called a convict fish.

[634] I guess there's probably more than one fish that has human teeth.

[635] Oh, totally.

[636] Yeah.

[637] Did you see that volcano that they found in the middle of the Pacific?

[638] Pacu fish.

[639] Pacu, I think, is related to the piran.

[640] Is that different?

[641] Okay.

[642] I think it's like a cousin of the piranha.

[643] Oh, yeah, that's completely different.

[644] You're right.

[645] All right, sheepshed fish.

[646] Because Pacu is one of those fish that you can actually buy.

[647] and I remember when I had piranhas like you couldn't get it it was very hard to get them in a store but you get a Pacu in a store the what was I going to say oh the fucking volcano did you hear about that volcano they found in the middle of the Pacific they just found it the largest volcano ever discovered on earth and they believe in the entire solar system it's just in the middle of the Pacific it's this enormous volcano that's a big as New Mexico, and it's in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.

[648] Dude, that's fucking insane.

[649] And they didn't even know it existed.

[650] How the fuck did they not know?

[651] We don't know much about the bottom of the ocean apparently.

[652] Wow.

[653] Yeah.

[654] We still keep discovering shit about Earth.

[655] I mean, it's kind of a testament to how big and crazy these places.

[656] But a lot of people think we've seen everything, and we have it all tracked, and we fucking don't.

[657] Well, that's the argument for things like Bigfoot.

[658] But this is some real shit.

[659] Dude, Bigfoot is out there, whatever the hell that thing is out there.

[660] That's actually probably an argument against Bigfoot.

[661] It's that they can't find Bigfoot, but they can find this in the middle of the ocean.

[662] Actually, that's a terrible argument because this is so big.

[663] It dwarfs the previous record holder.

[664] Monoloa used to be the world's largest volcano.

[665] But this one, Monoloa is, oh, it's actually 25 % smaller than Olympus Mons on Mars, which is the biggest volcano.

[666] in Earth's solar system.

[667] So it's a little bit smaller.

[668] It's one of the largest in the solar system, but the largest on Earth.

[669] It's 400 miles wide and 2 .5 miles tall.

[670] It erupted for a few million years during the early Cretaceous period about 144 million years ago, but it's since been extinct.

[671] Wow.

[672] That's nuts.

[673] So it almost became another Hawaii, essentially.

[674] But it's even bigger than Hawaii.

[675] like a week ago maybe they're just trying to grow a new Japan real quick this might not be a bad idea using Kim Trails yeah send some fucking harp signals down to the bottom of the ocean try to crack that fucker to the top are you scared at all about that shit man I know this is supposed to be a conversation about rap in your book no no we don't got to we don't got to talk about rap or my book Are you scared of Fukushima?

[676] Dude I I the harp thing is that No no Fukushima man I don't know what Fukushima What is what is That's the nuclear disaster Japan.

[677] You're not aware of that?

[678] Last podcast, Joe, I was freaked out about it because we talked about it so much.

[679] But then all the shit that people sent me on Twitter, now I'm just like, oh, man, it's so, there's two sides of it.

[680] It's like, we dig, like, when did this, what, what did, I've been on tour.

[681] Is that, you didn't hear about the Japanese nuclear meltdown?

[682] How long ago is this?

[683] Are you serious?

[684] How long ago is this?

[685] This is like, people, we get so mad at you right now.

[686] Yeah, fuck another American, so obsessed with his own bullshit that doesn't understand one of the mass extinction events.

[687] this world has ever known.

[688] I know a lot about extinction events.

[689] I don't know what...

[690] Have you been watching Breaking Bad?

[691] I didn't see the last one, though.

[692] 2011, the tsunami in the earthquake.

[693] Right, sure.

[694] Sure, I know that.

[695] Fukushima power plants went down, and they didn't have a backup.

[696] And if you know how...

[697] I didn't know how nuclear worked until this, but the way it works is you have to keep those things cool.

[698] Nuclear power, apparently, is just a big fire that works and creates...

[699] steam, and the steam powers generators.

[700] Right.

[701] And they pour water into it, and that's why they're always near the water.

[702] The water is like, it hits the steam, or it hits the nuclear plant somehow or another, the fusion, the energy, heats up the water, and that powers the generators.

[703] Like, it's way more primitive than I thought it was.

[704] I thought it's somehow another extracting the energy from the nuclear power, and they put it into tubes or some shit, and then it comes into, I didn't know how it does.

[705] Well, when they do that, they have to keep these rods cool.

[706] They have to constantly keep them cool, this nuclear energy.

[707] And when the power goes out, they're fucked.

[708] They're really, really fucked.

[709] They had backup for like eight hours.

[710] They had, like, when the tsunami hit them, it killed their generator and it killed their backup generator.

[711] And so they couldn't cool it off.

[712] And once you can't cool it off, it's done.

[713] Like, you never can cool it off again.

[714] They don't know how to cool it off.

[715] So essentially, they have this place that remains hot for hundreds of, hundreds of thousands of years it's contaminated and so they don't know and honestly that's a lot of it is theoretical they don't even know where it is right now because it's it's it's melted through its containment hole so it's going further and further into the earth oh jesus the whole thing it's it's mad no yeah now that yes i am scared about that that's fucking terrible and it's leaking millions and millions of gallons of radioactive water into the ocean they've showed a measurable increase in the radioactivity in fish right now they say it's within tolerable levels it's like 3 % increase in radioactive isotopes but it's dangerous it's fucking dangerous I've been eating mad fish lately just because I feel like one day I won't be able to you should eat it maybe you get superpowers you know that is some scary shit I feel like very inadequate as a human for not knowing about that but it's well you shouldn't feel inadequate but it's kind of shocking that no one's well you live in Kansas City no one's worried about fish You're worried about catfish Catch catfish I fucking hate catfish I don't know Is it those shows Where people reaching in And grabbing them with their hands Because when you grow up in Kansas City Everybody's always Let's go to the lake this weekend And we're gonna go And that's what you do Is you fucking go catfishing And they have fucking whiskers That they beat you with And if you hold them And they're just like pigs Well they're trying to stay alive I understand that I'm just saying I'm not a fan of them I'm not a fan of them Yeah catfish are delicious and you can catch them with your hands.

[716] Yeah, and then they beat you with their fucking whiskers.

[717] Those shows where they reach their hand into the mouth and grab them and pull them out of the lake, that is the most ridiculous shit ever.

[718] That's the best way to catch these fucking things.

[719] Would chloroform work on catfish?

[720] I don't think it would work underwater.

[721] No, I mean, yeah.

[722] The size of these fucking catfish they pull out with their hands, too.

[723] I mean, there's some, I don't know if you've ever seen, because you like, you know, legendary animals, There's like 400 pound catfish swimming through rivers and shit.

[724] You've ever seen some of these pictures of these like mega catfish?

[725] I mean, there's giant ones.

[726] Huge.

[727] They caught one recently.

[728] There was some world record one that caught in some other country.

[729] But someone put a video up on YouTube.

[730] And it seriously looked like the guy was pulling in a hippop.

[731] He caught it with a rod and reel.

[732] Pull it up.

[733] Pull up world record catfish caught, like the most recent one.

[734] It's insane.

[735] It looks like it's like eight, nine feet long.

[736] And it looks like a hippo.

[737] It literally looks like he's pulling in a hippopotamus.

[738] It's enormous.

[739] It's a catfish.

[740] Where was it?

[741] Where was...

[742] I don't know.

[743] Kazakhstan or some shit.

[744] I don't know.

[745] I have no idea.

[746] It's just a bunch of strange languages that I don't understand.

[747] Fuck catfish.

[748] That's something I do understand.

[749] Look at this one.

[750] That's probably Thailand.

[751] Thailand has a lot of giant ones.

[752] That's crazy.

[753] Yeah, but there's a video of a guy pulling one in on a Rod and Reel.

[754] Video of a guy pulling in the world record.

[755] Oh, there it is.

[756] These are just rivers.

[757] man. Your pools have been a particular source of concern.

[758] Tokyo electric power Why do you have two videos playing at the same time?

[759] I don't know.

[760] You have volume playing Tokyo power.

[761] We don't need to hear that music.

[762] Rann -na -na -na -na -ha -na - But it's really important mood music, man. You got to really look at that rod pulling, Jesus Christ.

[763] Scoot ahead so you can actually see the fish.

[764] It's way better.

[765] hearing you do it.

[766] This is not the fish.

[767] That's not the one.

[768] This is not the world record one.

[769] But it's pretty goddamn big.

[770] Look at the size of that fucking thing.

[771] He's pulling in with his hands.

[772] What the fuck?

[773] That's not even close, though.

[774] Look, he conveniently rested on his dick.

[775] Oh, I just happened to stick my dick in this catfish's mouth after conquering it.

[776] Look at that size of that.

[777] Yeah, did they call that a Kentucky kiss or what's that called?

[778] You know what's really fucked up?

[779] That's not even the craziest animal that lives in freshwater.

[780] You've ever seen an Alligator gar.

[781] A what?

[782] Alligator gar.

[783] No. Oh, dude, pull that up.

[784] There's videos of these people catching these things.

[785] They apparently live in some places in the south.

[786] Like Texas has lakes that have them.

[787] And these things are enormous.

[788] They grow like nine feet long.

[789] They look like dinosaurs.

[790] They look like swimming dinosaurs.

[791] Their teeth, they're like giant piranha.

[792] Their teeth are filled with these crazy fucking sharp teeth.

[793] And I think they eat them.

[794] I think they eat them like on swamp people.

[795] I think they smoke and they smoke them.

[796] But it's a crazy -looking dinosaur, evil, ancient fish.

[797] You got it?

[798] Look at this fucking thing.

[799] Fish.

[800] Does this somebody catching one?

[801] Yeah, people...

[802] Oh, this is more romantic.

[803] Yeah, what is with these fishermen with their fucking shitty music behind their fish videos?

[804] Wait do you see this thing?

[805] Well, that's not even that big of one.

[806] Kill that music, dude Stop Go to a Oh my God Look at that thing That's how I cuss out That's the Holy shit Show a good photo of one Because some of them like You'll see the teeth Oh Jesus Christ Oh Jesus Christ I mean that's a native American Freshwater fish Oh my God And it's probably been in this state For you know millions of years Oh my god Looked like that That is terrifying Yeah and they're huge I mean these things get enormous What's the world record alligator car let's find a whole big big yeah dude that photo that you said that you tweeted the other day with the mountain lion eating deer on the side of the road yeah mountlining ended a deer on the side of the road in Santa Monica right in the Santa Monica mountains like people were driving by and they passed it and like what the fuck you ever seen the video of the Komodo dragon eating the water buffalo yes that's like one of the best they measure from the alligator gar as the largest freshwater fish found in North America and measures between 8 and 10 feet fucking long.

[807] God damn it.

[808] If you pull up a photo that says World Record Alligator Gar, do that on Google image search.

[809] I mean thing, bro.

[810] Okay, Bing.

[811] You contrarian.

[812] I'm using Bing with my Windows phone.

[813] I give zero fucks.

[814] Look at this thing.

[815] This is one of the world record ones.

[816] Oh my God.

[817] Jesus.

[818] That's an alligator, brother.

[819] That's the world record alligator.

[820] Look at the picture that they just pulled up.

[821] Look at that, though.

[822] This just got captured last week.

[823] Oh, my God.

[824] Yeah.

[825] That's the world record alligator they just captured in Mississippi.

[826] That was in Mississippi?

[827] Yeah, not even world record.

[828] I believe it's just Mississippi record, right?

[829] Yep.

[830] Yeah, but what's crazy is the state record, they broke twice in a day.

[831] One person got one that was over 700, and someone else got one that was even larger than that.

[832] It was over 700 pounds.

[833] So two of them, a day that broke the previous state record.

[834] That's crazy.

[835] When I was a kid, I used to live in Florida.

[836] I lived in a place called Gainesville, and Gainesville has a late...

[837] I've played a show in Gainesville.

[838] This is a good college there.

[839] It's also where I think Ted Bundy did all is killing.

[840] Yeah.

[841] There was a lake called Lake Alice, and it was filled with alligators.

[842] Alligator's there all the time.

[843] We used to feed them.

[844] We used to throw marshmals in, and they would eat the marshmals.

[845] And occasionally people's dogs, like, someone would fuck up, but they'd be walking their dog too close to the water.

[846] They would just jump out, grab them, snap them up.

[847] I thought you made, like, you threw marshmallows and then occasionally somebody's dog.

[848] That's so fucking up.

[849] No. But they were scarce.

[850] Like, you weren't allowed to hunt them.

[851] They were like, they're a protected species.

[852] That's why they were telling us not to feed the marshmals at one point in time.

[853] They put up a sign because apparently the alligators had a hard time digesting the marshmallow.

[854] Like, they were concerned with the alligators, their population.

[855] But now, now they're everywhere.

[856] where they're just infested.

[857] They have these people on those swamp shows.

[858] You ever watch those swamp shows?

[859] They have like a 500 tag limit.

[860] So they can kill 500 of them in a fucking season.

[861] So they're just driving around the swamp, shooting rifles into the water, setting traps.

[862] Yeah, that's almost two a day.

[863] Jesus.

[864] Yeah.

[865] Well, I think, I don't know how long their season lasts.

[866] Oh, yeah.

[867] That's way more than two a day depending on how long the season lasts.

[868] I think they have a season.

[869] But like, you know, like some animals, when they get too crazy, the season thing and they just say you can do whatever the fuck you want like wild pigs in texas there's a thing that they put out today i was on my twitter that they hired uh a guy to start trapping them in the city of dallas that they have to start trapping wild hogs in the city of dallas i think because they're like a nuisance in their way into the city wild pigs in texas are so bad right now there's more than 11 million wild pigs in texas alone right now apparently have you ever been to south africa no okay so we did a tour in South Africa and we were driving from Cape Town to Johannesburg or driving no driving around Johannesburg and there is a guy uh pretty much every 20 miles or so that is employed by the state that walks around with a whip and he whips baboons off the street because they fuck with people's cars baboons are little fucking thugs man they will like they'll break into your car and and take all your CDs and break them and piss all over your car and fuck your shit up and just leave it there.

[870] They do it on purpose.

[871] So they pay a guy to walk around and whip baboons to keep them out of people's cars.

[872] Dude, they're goons.

[873] You know what's really weird about baboons?

[874] Is they're kind of like part dog.

[875] Right.

[876] They're like, you know, they're a primate, but they look kind of doglike.

[877] Like when they open up their mouth and they're like they bear their teeth or they're barking or something like that, they have like a dog face you know pull up a picture some baboons baboons teeth they're freaky looking fucking animals they're crazy man and they're everywhere that's not a baboon pull up a picture of baboon they have a real problem with them breaking into people's hotel rooms too like they've broken into like they figured out how to open sliding glass doors and shit and they'll break in a like if you leave them open they'll break in your hotel room just ransack your shit yeah they fuck your shit out look at it oh Oh, he's sticking his ass up against that kid's face.

[878] Yeah, they're, they're rude.

[879] They're smarter than people get some good ones that show baboon's teeth.

[880] Get something that shows baboon's teeth.

[881] They're freaky -looking animals, man. They're almost like a dog monkey hybrid.

[882] They're everywhere in South Africa.

[883] They're walking down the sidewalk.

[884] So if you're out for a jog or something, you might encounter a baboon.

[885] God damn, so what do they do about them?

[886] They try to have somebody come around and regulate them, but I don't think that they're completely successful.

[887] So, I don't know.

[888] I think you can scream at one or something and it'll run away from you, but...

[889] Maybe not, though, right?

[890] Maybe not.

[891] Some mayor in India recently got killed.

[892] Look at that thing.

[893] Some mayor got killed by a pack of monkeys, a mayor of a town in India.

[894] Dude, monkeys are fucking ruthless.

[895] Yeah, put up a couple more of those pictures.

[896] It's so weird that's a real animal, man. Look at their fucking teeth.

[897] but it's like very almost dog like you know it's primate like but it's long like wolf like or something yeah i'm so glad we don't have shit like that here i mean we have our art bears bears are scary bears are pretty bad did you hear about that event last week or it was two weeks ago where seven people got bitten by a bear yeah like what the fuck yeah in one day yeah bears are uh bears are pretty scary and they're huge too and and and fucking fast, so you can't outrun them.

[898] Oh.

[899] Yeah, recent, yeah, that's they pull their, that's real, too.

[900] They pull their lips back.

[901] Do they do that with their hands, or does it just pull back like that?

[902] No, it just does it.

[903] Jesus, man. It does it when they wide open their mouths.

[904] The scariest vagina ever.

[905] What a creepy -looking animal, man. Yeah, there was a couple of days, a couple -day period where seven people were mauled by bears in America.

[906] yeah they it's getting weird man it's getting really weird yeah yeah things are kind of nuts man i don't know i'm i'm just scared of shit like that and i guess in kansas city we don't really have to worry about stuff like that which is nice we don't have bears or you plan on staying there i don't know man i'm probably gonna have to move probably have to move out here because of some of the stuff that's going on um my wife definitely wants to move out here because of uh showbiz type stuff yeah your wife wants to get the fuck out of kansas city Yeah, she doesn't like it.

[907] I don't know.

[908] She was getting ready to move to England, and I kind of interrupted her plans and married her and put a baby in her.

[909] So now that stuff is going so well, she wants to go to either of the coast, but just not stay in Kansas City, which is something to consider because it's getting to the point where it's hard to do shit from there.

[910] You got to live in California.

[911] You got weather, weed, women.

[912] Oh, women, weather, weed, in and out burger.

[913] That's right.

[914] In an Out Burger is pretty nice.

[915] Even if you're gluten -free, you can get the protein style.

[916] Will they give it to you on two big slabs and lettuce?

[917] Yeah, she's gluten -free.

[918] She'd love that.

[919] It'll stink up your car, though, for days and days.

[920] That smell of in -and -out, it's impossible to get out of your car.

[921] It's weird.

[922] It's like, even if you clean your car up, you're like, where is it?

[923] How is it in here?

[924] You know?

[925] I ate in the box.

[926] You know, when I cleaned the box, I picked the box up, I threw in the garbage.

[927] You get in my car.

[928] It still smells like in and out.

[929] Do you like living out here?

[930] I mean, because you've lived quite a few places, right?

[931] You've bounced around.

[932] There's too many people.

[933] That's an issue.

[934] But the good thing about too many people is you get a lot of cool people because there's so many fucking people.

[935] And it's so there's a lot of creative people to live here.

[936] So like you can cultivate, like we've got a great group of friends now.

[937] And it's like all of our friends are comics and people that we know that are creative that live inside of L .A. And so in that sense, it's a great place to live.

[938] You can find a lot of interesting, cool people here.

[939] But the numbers are so big.

[940] when you're dealing with something like they think there's 20 million people in the greater Los Angeles area when you're dealing with numbers that are that big I think you sort of almost like you don't appreciate people as much I think they're overwhelming to you whereas if you go to a small town what I like about like driving in a place like Boulder or something like that is people wave to you like if you're passing on a road It's very hospitable in places like that that's the same with Kansas City is we're very friendly to each other there's less pressure Right.

[941] There's a real pressure that comes from volume of people.

[942] And I feel it on the highway, and I think it's responsible for road rage.

[943] Most road rage, you're not seeing road rage and empty roads.

[944] Road rage is like during traffic.

[945] There's road rage and empty roads, too.

[946] Yeah, well, that's just assholes, right?

[947] That was probably a bad example.

[948] Right.

[949] But my point being that there's, when you're less people that are clogging up the world, less, you know, you're not constantly being slowed down everywhere you go by a high volume of people, I think you appreciate them more.

[950] Do you feel that there's an overabundance of maybe kind of like what we were talking about before the show, not to say any names, but creative people that are getting in the way of maybe people that have a genuine voice?

[951] Oh, people that have figured out a way to exist in the system even though they suck?

[952] Yeah, yeah, and maybe are preventing other people that would otherwise have opportunities?

[953] I don't know.

[954] You know, we were talking about a specific example of a comedian that we know that sucks.

[955] that somehow another has carved out some sort of a small life in Hollywood while being incredibly bad I think those are rare I think most people that actually get through and you know you might not enjoy them you know like it might not be your style but like there's a lot of music that's not my style but other people fucking love it right and there's that weird pretentious thing where you go no it fucking sucks period it might suck to you but like to someone the Smiths are the greatest band ever.

[956] Yeah, a lot of people think that.

[957] Yeah, yeah.

[958] A lot of people think that.

[959] I don't like them.

[960] No, I don't either.

[961] My style.

[962] Never.

[963] But I appreciate that they obviously are great to those people.

[964] That's how it is.

[965] But then there's also other folks that get through as writers, and that's where it gets really weird.

[966] See, that's one of the reasons I would come here is to parlay what I'm doing into writing.

[967] Well, you're a funny writer, dude.

[968] You wouldn't have to worry about what we're describing.

[969] Right.

[970] What we're describing is people that somehow or know they get jobs, as writers that aren't funny at all.

[971] And I've seen it, man. I've seen it on large scale.

[972] And you know what happens?

[973] A lot of times it gets really weird.

[974] Like sitcom writers, they have teams.

[975] And so it'll be one guy who's the really funny guy and the other guy is the guy who bounces shit off who doesn't talk that much.

[976] But they work as a team because the one guy who's a really funny, creative guy is kind of dysfunctional and can't really do it on himself, can't type or something like that.

[977] And so they have like these two men teams and they're monsters.

[978] and it happens a lot where you have these two -man teams these guys start out together but there's one guy who's really talented I did this pilot way back in the day I had a development deal to do a show and there was these two guys that worked on a very successful sitcom and this guy branched off on his own separated from his partner and got this fucking deal and it was a giant deal it was millions of dollars I mean he was the guy and so the people that gave me this development deal wanted me to meet with him so I go into Homeboy's office first of all he's wearing bowling shoes which is a bad sign because those those bitches are not comfortable so it's one thing if you're wearing you know you like wearing uh high top converse and you're 90 years old uh you're eccentric you know but they're at least they're comfortable to wear yeah if you're wearing bowling shoes i assume you're trying to be wacky yeah and i get grossed out yeah you know so i was thinking this guy's this is a this is a weird sign and then he's just not funny like in talking to him He doesn't seem particularly interesting.

[979] He doesn't seem particularly sharp.

[980] There's like, there's nothing, I'm not, I mean, like, maybe he pours it all out in his writing.

[981] Maybe he's his bland guy.

[982] And when he writes, you're like, holy shit.

[983] Yeah.

[984] So they give me the script after this guy's done with it.

[985] And it is one of the worst pieces of shit I've ever read in my life.

[986] And the guy eventually faded away and disappeared.

[987] But for a long time, he was considered to be one of the best writers in Hollywood because he was a part of a team on a successful show.

[988] And then as he branched out, this gigantic development deal, you got this huge push in the beginning, and then he disappeared.

[989] Yeah, I've heard that people in Hollywood kind of fail upwards.

[990] They are a part of things that, and they just managed to make it to a certain point without ever really doing anything.

[991] I think that's kind of a cliche, you know.

[992] Is that more of a cliche?

[993] I think it's happened before, but it's a nepotism thing, people that are really good at networking in, like, show business, like as producers or, you know, as executives maybe more so.

[994] than anything else.

[995] But as far as like people that are producing, like writers or something like that, not really.

[996] See, my biggest fear is, and I can't talk about the network or anything, but this is obviously getting optioned into something and one of my biggest fears is being afflicted with shitty writers.

[997] Oh, it'll happen.

[998] Because my biggest, and I don't understand still, I cannot possibly grasp the logic why they won't let me write it because it's my shit.

[999] Who won't let you write it?

[1000] The people you're doing the deal with?

[1001] Everybody.

[1002] They're just going, no, will find you a writer.

[1003] And which is fine because maybe this particular person whoever they decide to choose or people will actually produce a teleplay that's amazing and take what years is here?

[1004] Teleplay.

[1005] It's on a fixing machine.

[1006] These are words that I've been hearing of late.

[1007] Teleplay.

[1008] But I'm also worried that then it's going to come back and it's going to be a piece of shit and it's going to take all the heart and soul that I put into it and just make it sterile.

[1009] It's very possible.

[1010] It is.

[1011] I haven't had good luck in trying to to turn things into TV shows.

[1012] It's hard.

[1013] It's also hard when you're dealing with...

[1014] It's a huge process when you're dealing with more than one person because you're dealing with more than one vision.

[1015] I mean, I found that even on the sci -fi show that I did, there was people that were saying, we should do it like this or we should do it like that.

[1016] And there's all these different points of view.

[1017] And a lot of times that fucks things up.

[1018] Like, Louis C .K. has the best deal ever.

[1019] Dude, the best deal.

[1020] Because his deal is basically, they said, we're not going to give you any money, but you can do whatever the fuck you want and we'll air it.

[1021] It's so, well, they give them money, but I mean, it was such a smart thing on their part to trust, like here you get a guy who's a comedic genius and you say, well, what do you do about this?

[1022] Well, you trust them.

[1023] You trust him to do something funny and you give them money.

[1024] I would love that.

[1025] Well, that's what you need.

[1026] I think, honestly, that's what everybody gets on the internet.

[1027] I mean, it really is what it is.

[1028] The things that have become successful from the internet, like your videos, are all things that you've created on your own and they found their audience.

[1029] And that's really what someone needs to understand.

[1030] Like, you got to be famous.

[1031] from the internet you got your i found out about you from your work from your mind then pushed out to the universe and you put it together you you filmed it like this pancake rap thing that everybody knows about here this is a pretty big one yeah yeah that shit looked like my breakfast i gotta remember to flip the motherfucker over after cooking it for 30 seconds ladies love me i got my okay everybody said to do another fast rap to this beat so i said okay but i'm gonna speed it up real real real real The whole damn bottle is gone and I'm challenging Buster Watsky and twister Any of you rap kids follow along come on cook with me now Are you getting drunk where you making thinking?

[1032] This took me because I probably did over 200 takes Because there's a particular part where I kept fucking the words up It's coming up in a second so it took me two nights I'm looking for another silly idiotical that he can beat up I wish that he was man enough to get inside the eye gun I'm kicking him in the Knoggin like I'm Leo to machita front kick to the face just by me throwing my feet up Winking at Rihanna baby please show at here I'm giving it to the man the cakes To do that, the pan of your fate is imminent, I'm in a minute, I'm in a minute, you got the root of smoke, the week of it, it's done.

[1033] To do that, like, it, and it just got to the point where I had to just start hammering screwdrivers, like half and half orange juice and vodka, because I kept fucking that part of up.

[1034] That makes it better?

[1035] Screwdrivers makes it better.

[1036] No, it made it worse.

[1037] That was the problem.

[1038] I was just frustrated.

[1039] That's like micromachini.

[1040] Here's another one.

[1041] Here's another one.

[1042] Danny DeVita one.

[1043] I belittal literally a better.

[1044] You battling anybody with a betty you're ahead of you like bitter, badda, I'm a hit you with an automobile.

[1045] Every bada bada bada bada boom I'm the king bad I got to go get up into when I'm in a man That's amazing God damn dude That must be so hard to do live It's it's As long as I get proper vocal In warmups Warmups then I'll be fine Like if I just try to go out there and do that It's not happening I mean it's it's you got a stretch Like you know before you train Jitsu or something You got 20 30 minutes of warming up It's that similar concept I do that now before shows I make sure I have conversations before shows Do you ever do, like, scales and, uh -huh?

[1046] Yeah, I go, oh, uh -huh.

[1047] Yeah.

[1048] But I also stretch my mouth out.

[1049] Yeah, you have to.

[1050] You have to.

[1051] And it's a lot of stretching my tongue and my cheeks out and talking and make the one, the crucial thing is making sure I'm extremely hydrated.

[1052] Because that'll make my mouth very, uh, kind of juicy and lubricated.

[1053] Juicy and lubricated.

[1054] Yeah, dog, keep talking.

[1055] I get my pants off.

[1056] But I found that the internet is, um, You know, in particular, like, what Google is doing right now trying to destroy network TV with Google Fiber.

[1057] I found a couple years ago, and where this is all from, where Bennett is coming from, is that we're kind of all as artists taking control back.

[1058] And, you know, like you do with this podcast, what I do with my videos, what I did with my blog, and we create all this shit that they, you know, the suits will try to take and repackage for networks.

[1059] I think that the thing with Louie is they let one through that didn't have to go through the filter of all the executives and the suits.

[1060] And that's why it's so fucking awesome.

[1061] It's because they said, all right, we're just going to let this guy do it.

[1062] Well, look at what you're doing, right?

[1063] And look at, how would you have done that if you had a bunch of people telling you what to do?

[1064] I wouldn't.

[1065] I couldn't.

[1066] Even if I had one person telling me what to do.

[1067] I mean, I like the autonomy.

[1068] And I think that's why there's so many voices that are emerging because we're getting these like, singular very creative versus or voices that are come you know what you do perfect example well this podcast would have never been like this if we had a producer or a network there was no like is there a funnier way that we could say that could we say that use some more g rated words advertisers aren't going to like when use the flesh using the flesh light you know or this motherfucker just just having him hang around right can we get the james franco instead yeah well they would be like you know know like we've we've done studies and oh that's well that's one of the things like in one of the projects I have is as I'm very certain that it's going to have to go through a fucking focus group and I've never I've never had that happen to anything I've ever done it's weird it's weird focus groups are strange I mean what is like you've had what are like some of the comments that you get I mean you get like very bizarre fucked up comments no quite quite honestly if something's good they like it I mean that's that's the reality of focus People don't like it.

[1069] They don't, they like to say, well, you know, fuck a focus group.

[1070] But if you got a good product, the focus group is most likely going to like it.

[1071] You know, it's the problem is you shouldn't have to do it that way.

[1072] You should, the way you develop a show, it's like the way you develop anything.

[1073] It's like you create it, you put it out there, you get feedback, you work it and tweak it and you continue.

[1074] And when you start out, it's not going to be the same thing it is a year from now or six months from now.

[1075] You're going to get it together.

[1076] Like for me, there's like a whole process from the beginning.

[1077] beginning of coming up with a bit, and then what the bit actually becomes in six months.

[1078] And if I had to judge it, based on the first time I ever did it on stage, it would probably, most bits would probably never make it.

[1079] Absolutely.

[1080] They would die off.

[1081] They're just not ready.

[1082] And when you're on a television show, everybody wants the beginning product to be the final product.

[1083] And it's not.

[1084] It takes fucking fair up.

[1085] Go watch the first episode of The Sopranos.

[1086] It was a comedy.

[1087] It was a comedy.

[1088] It was a slapstick over -the -top comedy where Eadie follows.

[1089] had a fucking machine gun and her daughter was trying to climb into the window at night.

[1090] She's out there with an AK -47 pointing it at her.

[1091] Yeah, because Meadow was trying to sneak back.

[1092] She had snuck out of the house.

[1093] Exactly.

[1094] It was a joke.

[1095] It was a hilarious, like, loopy, over -the -top mob show.

[1096] And then it became this intense, incredible drama and one of the most realistic shows in human history.

[1097] But it didn't start out like that.

[1098] It's weird to see shows kind of take that evolution.

[1099] I think that, like, eastbound and down has done that.

[1100] That went from a very funny comedy And now it's kind of like this Drama show Is drama deers Have you seen any of the recent season I have only well I can't I like that guy I think he's fucking awesome But I can only watch that show In like short Right Well the second season And in particular The third season Dude it was a fucking romantic comedy It was What are we doing?

[1101] Brian's distracting us Oh okay I was seeing the scene from Supranas Joey Diaz Oh he's in it It was in the Sopranos He was on Mad TV Yeah Yeah Stuff Um Um, yeah, look, I think it's hard to get someone to be willing to let you do your thing and put it on TV, but that's the only way it's ever going to be your thing.

[1102] You have to, you just have to, it's something you have to go through.

[1103] It's just hard to do it on a place like FX, but you could do it on Vimeo, you know, you could do it on YouTube.

[1104] When, that's the beautiful thing about the internet.

[1105] And that's why you're here.

[1106] Yeah, no, that is why I'm here.

[1107] That's also why you're there.

[1108] That's why you're there.

[1109] You're representing you.

[1110] You're representing MacLethal.

[1111] I mean, you here.

[1112] boom you made it there it is everybody likes it oh good here i am the guy who does that well we want to change all that we want to throw in a bunch of other people that you don't even know and get a bunch of guys that have a totally different sensibility and listen we know how to make some shitty tv shows we've done it in the past and we would like to take your amazing original idea and turn into a piece of shit that you're going to pull your fucking hair out and we're going to give you nine writers yes and and they're all dickheads have you seen this Joe what is it he makes a Kanye West song out of nothing but like hair oh you haven't seen this thing it's great Yeah.

[1113] He loops it.

[1114] Dana White followed me on Twitter because of this.

[1115] This took like a week.

[1116] What looper do you use, by the?

[1117] That is the fucking Roland 606 loop machine.

[1118] It has infinite loops.

[1119] And then I have one where I use my phone, which is a program called Everyday Looper.

[1120] And you're doing all this by just pressing the loop machine and making noises with a hairdryer and for people who are listening to this at home going, what the fuck am I listening to?

[1121] You have to see it.

[1122] This is a niggas in Paris by Kanye and Jay Z. I don't know how to say that there.

[1123] Check it out, uh.

[1124] You know I'm bald so hard that my whole head's shiny, so it's easy to find me. What's rogue game to a motherfucker like me?

[1125] Could you please remind me?

[1126] Balls so hard that shit's gray.

[1127] Gotta sweep all the hair in the trash again.

[1128] Gotta buzz it, gotta keep it really short.

[1129] I'm looking like Chloe Kardashian.

[1130] See, I'm a bald badass like Dana White.

[1131] When I roll up on your bitchy ass and a slick pre -ass, and I fight you when I'm high as fuck like I'm Nick Diaz and never get rehab.

[1132] I'm getting cinematic with it.

[1133] Anybody want to try to fuck.

[1134] What is me?

[1135] You did another one where you looped where you were making noises like with your mouth.

[1136] With the phone.

[1137] That's the one I talk about.

[1138] I mentioned your name.

[1139] Yeah, that's how I saw.

[1140] Getting your mind so open like I'm Joe Rogan.

[1141] I used this program called Everyday Looper and I probably made this guy fucking half a million.

[1142] And you did it with your phone.

[1143] Yeah, I did it with this.

[1144] This is the program right here.

[1145] Wow.

[1146] And it just infinitely loops.

[1147] And basically I used this thing called Apogee where I could plug it into my phone and record an acoustic guitar and then I made a lot of noises with my mouth and just looped them whistled harmonized with the whistle and then and then I did a song over it and I just have found that in 2013 it's it's not enough um especially if you're not going to get radio play and you're not going to get on MTV if you want to stand out you have to use new forms of making songs use technology um you know hair products whatever it is you have to do things that are pushing the envelope.

[1148] And we've already done everything.

[1149] We've already written every song we can possibly write with all the instruments that we have.

[1150] So what I'm trying to do is incorporate pancakes or incorporate my iPhone or incorporate hair products.

[1151] Whatever it is, it's going to push the envelope and make it stand out a little bit more.

[1152] Yeah, this is it right here, right?

[1153] Yeah, this is it.

[1154] The guy that mates this everyday looper program has to owe me fucking $250 ,000 for how many of these I sold for him.

[1155] Dickhead.

[1156] And so you make this, and that's all you have to do is do that once, and then it loops.

[1157] Then it loops, then I add another one to it.

[1158] And you can stack them over top of each other, too, in this program.

[1159] So it can go up to, like...

[1160] It's so bad ass.

[1161] And you're doing all this in real time.

[1162] Yeah, and then I harmonize right here.

[1163] Hey, yo.

[1164] And I might suck at guitar, but at least I've never protested a dead soldier's funeral, uh.

[1165] And yeah, I'm losing my hair, but at least I've never judged a woman for thinking that another woman's beautiful.

[1166] And sometimes, and I mean sometimes, I might even text message while I drive.

[1167] Woo!

[1168] But I've never thanked God when a precious five -year -old child was shot and died.

[1169] Uh -uh.

[1170] What's it to you?

[1171] You got something so sick.

[1172] Just bust into a nutty cuckoo It's so ugly brutal Hey, this was about what This was when Sandy Hook happened Because I'm from Kansas City So I'm 20 minutes away from Topeka, Kansas Where the Westboro Baptist Church is And we've experienced for our whole lives The Phelps family, the Roper family Always protesting You know, like if a soldier dies in Afghanistan And they have a funeral for him They will protest it and say that God is the reason that it happened because America is a fag enabling country.

[1173] So Sandy Hook happened and all the children were executed and they were going to go out there and protest the fucking candlelight vigil for all the children that were shot in that tragedy.

[1174] So I made a song, but see, I'm very stern and austere.

[1175] And I don't like to make songs if I feel I'm benefiting off of a tragedy.

[1176] It has to be completely genuine.

[1177] And this is just, I was getting ready to have a baby in two months.

[1178] So it was just something that I really connected with.

[1179] And I kind of had that idea laying around of using my phone and the whistle and the guitar.

[1180] So then I just put the lyrics over it.

[1181] And I actually, one of the greatest accomplishments of that song is I met and I'm now friends with Megan Phelps Roper, who is the most outspoken of the Westboro Baptist Church up until about a year ago, where she decided that she no longer agreed.

[1182] with the ideals she was indoctrinated with and left the church and is now exiled from the church.

[1183] So she was the most vocal?

[1184] She was like their social media person that would be on Twitter.

[1185] She argued with Kevin Smith a lot on Twitter and made a lot of YouTube videos and websites to promote the Westboro Baptist Church and everything they stand for.

[1186] So what happened?

[1187] How did she snap out of it?

[1188] There's a very long and interesting article.

[1189] I can't remember the website that it is, but she explains that.

[1190] She hit a ceiling at one point and realized that her family does not have exclusive rights to decide what is and isn't right or wrong.

[1191] And her whole thing is she just feels like they represent hate and they don't represent love and that she just kind of grew up and realized she was indoctrinated as a child.

[1192] Wow, that's a fascinating case.

[1193] Yeah.

[1194] That would be an interesting documentary.

[1195] She wrote me, oh, totally.

[1196] And she wrote me a very, very long email that said, I just wanted to know.

[1197] know if you would forgive me and I wanted to apologize to you for anything that I ever said and she never said anything about me but she saw that video and and just said it hit home and I miss my family a lot and I've been exiled by them and we've developed a friendship um over it and now she's on kind of a mission to find out who she is and what she thinks and what she feels but she knows she doesn't agree with the family but they don't if you leave their their ideals they fucking exile you she hasn't talked to any of her family in like a year wow well she's lucky fuck them yeah no fuck them but just the idea that you could grow up in an environment like that and be indoctrinated into that thinking is very real there's children right now that if they're protesting which i'm sure that they are have signs that say you know american troops dying is a blessing from god because america is a fag enabling country yeah it's all um have you seen jesus camp Love it.

[1198] That takes place in Independence, Missouri, which is 20 minutes the opposite way.

[1199] That lady that speaks in tongues, the fucking, the weird chick that has the camp, I don't remember what her name is, she has the curly hair, she's kind of frumpy, and she'll randomly start going, and speaking in tongues, she's in Independence, Missouri.

[1200] That's right up the street.

[1201] We have the biggest population of evangelists in where I live, and that's maybe one of the reasons why I stay, because I'm not around a bunch of, like, progressive creatives I'm around against very volatile non -tolerant people intolerant people and that's why you stay it's maybe one of the reasons because I feel like it fuels some of the stuff that I do and I'm in a different environment than a lot of musicians and writers are so it gives you a different perspective it gives me a different perspective yeah that sounds like a nice excuse for staying and you're like look there's some good things about it yeah cheap rent yeah cheap rent clean Water and the power of evangelists.

[1202] Yeah.

[1203] Well, I think because of the internet, we've talked about this on the show many times before that I think there's pockets of cool people all over the place everywhere.

[1204] Because of the internet.

[1205] Yeah, everywhere.

[1206] Yeah, didn't you see.

[1207] It really starts with what kids are exposed to.

[1208] Kids are exposed to this.

[1209] They stay in the neighborhood.

[1210] They grow up, become parents.

[1211] What were they exposed to as they're developing as they're becoming a human being?

[1212] What made them think that this is something to aspire to?

[1213] If you grew up around a bunch of Fred Phelps type characters, you can really fuck your perspective.

[1214] sure but nowadays you're getting so much more input you're getting like this woman i'm sure had a lot of it had to be fueled by her media appearances and the feedback that she got from that but a lot of it had to be fueled by the internet itself yeah absolutely small town kids all over across america that get to listen to podcast now and read blogs and get to watch documentaries on their computer and be turned on to something on twitter where they never would have had oh before they were so isolated and all they heard was the ideals that were shoved down their throats constantly So I think that it's a great thing for just the evolution of the youth mind because they're going to be able to break away a lot earlier.

[1215] Like when we came, I came up in a fucking Presbyterian family.

[1216] My parents were religious and I didn't leave the faith and stop believing until I was 23 when I lost my mom.

[1217] And I think that forced me to confront the idea of death.

[1218] And I realized I wasn't afraid of it.

[1219] And it sent me on this whole spiritual journey where I realized.

[1220] How old are you now?

[1221] I'm 32.

[1222] So this is nine years.

[1223] Yeah, nine years ago.

[1224] This was nine years ago as of three days ago, September 7th, 2004.

[1225] And up until that point, I was blindly faithful.

[1226] I just believed because that's what you do in Kansas.

[1227] That's what you do.

[1228] You go to church and you believe in Jesus and atheists are weird Satan worshippers.

[1229] And so I feel.

[1230] Yeah.

[1231] So then I lost my mother and I think what that forced me to do.

[1232] And this is, we didn't have a whole lot of internet access for the information that we do now, but what it forced me to do was just confront the idea that religion exists solely predicated upon the idea that people are afraid of death and no longer existing.

[1233] And because we have no ability to explain what has happened up until this point.

[1234] And, you know, history becomes very murky the further you go back.

[1235] So, fascinating.

[1236] Yeah.

[1237] Now, Presbyterian, what exactly does that?

[1238] I, you know what?

[1239] I don't know.

[1240] We have in Kansas City, we have a van.

[1241] Evangelists, Methodists, Lutherans, Presbyterians, Catholics, no Muslims, no Muslims, no Buddhists, none of that shit.

[1242] All Jesus, lots of Jesus, huge churches, huge places for Jesus.

[1243] I grew, I was Catholic until I was in first grade.

[1244] So what happened in first grade?

[1245] They cured me. They cured me of Catholicism.

[1246] I went to first grade Catholic school, and it was just so crazy.

[1247] I knew that that was all bullshit.

[1248] I knew they were all out of their mind.

[1249] I didn't want to have anything to do with Catholicism.

[1250] politicism.

[1251] Before that, my parents broke up when I was a little kid, and I was very insecure when I was like five, my parents broke up.

[1252] And we were still living in New Jersey at the time.

[1253] All of a sudden, we were in an apartment.

[1254] We weren't living with my dad anymore.

[1255] My dad was really violent.

[1256] It was like, there was a lot going on that was really bad.

[1257] And so I was really religious as a small boy.

[1258] I thought that God was going to take care of everything, and that would be the secret.

[1259] It would be if God would take care of everything.

[1260] I don't know who else was telling me that, probably my grandmother or something.

[1261] Well, I went to Catholic school.

[1262] Our Lady of Chesterhova was the name of the place.

[1263] And it was so fucking nasty and joyless.

[1264] And they were so evil that I knew it was bullshit.

[1265] I knew it was all lies.

[1266] This woman, who was the nun, was such a fucking wretched cunt.

[1267] She helped me so much.

[1268] And just giving me no way out of it.

[1269] It was no way but to abandon it.

[1270] She was so nasty and shitty, and I just got to see the machine underneath what she was promoting.

[1271] So did you become an atheist in first grade?

[1272] No, I would never say I was an atheist.

[1273] I'm not an atheist today.

[1274] What I am, I like the term agnostic, but what I am is a person who hasn't died yet.

[1275] And I think anybody who hasn't died yet is just talking shit about what comes next.

[1276] That's a very, very good way of looking at it.

[1277] Especially if you've done mushrooms.

[1278] If you've done psychedelics...

[1279] I've done a lot of mushrooms.

[1280] If you've done psychedelics, if you've done dimethyptamine especially.

[1281] I have definitely done dimethylptamine too once.

[1282] It gives me at least the idea...

[1283] And I'm not saying that...

[1284] Here's an important point about psychedelics.

[1285] It's not necessarily real.

[1286] Like, what you're seeing when you're having a psychedelic experience, it doesn't mean you went to another dimension, even though it feels like another dimension.

[1287] It doesn't mean you're talking to intelligent entities that give you the secret of life and the secret of happiness.

[1288] doesn't mean that.

[1289] But whether or not you really are or are not traveling to other dimensions when you're on psychedelics, the experience is exactly the same.

[1290] So it really is as if, whether or not it's true, but it is as if you are traveling to another dimension and interacting with intelligent beings and intelligent beings that give you truth and honesty and see through all your bullshit and see through your behavior and can explain how to live the life and a happy way to you.

[1291] And if you listen to them, it actually works.

[1292] It doesn't mean it's not a figment of your imagination.

[1293] It might be.

[1294] But the point is that even if it really is just your imagination, there's no difference in the actual experience itself than if it was really happening.

[1295] You can't experience is the same.

[1296] But do you think that because when people talk about like when I smoked DMT the one time that I did and it was spellbinding, I mean fucking, when you talk about going to another dimension, you really do.

[1297] do.

[1298] And I don't think it's, it's like a figment of your imagination.

[1299] I just think you enter parts of your consciousness that you are unable to access unless you're, unless you do hallucinogens.

[1300] It's all speculation.

[1301] I've, I've come to the understanding that there's a lot of people that try to define psychedelic experiences and they try to say, well, this is what's happening.

[1302] And some, a lot of them are like really intelligent people who are sort of skeptics and they're kind of debunking the psychedelic experience.

[1303] And I, I've come to the realization that No one knows.

[1304] No one knows and no one will know.

[1305] Unless we have a much, much, much deeper understanding of the actual human mind and consciousness itself, when they start having the ability to transport consciousness into other external devices like an artificial body or something like that, things that people like Ray Kurzweb, believe we're going to be able to do someday, then maybe they'll have a deeper understanding of what exactly the psychedelic experience is.

[1306] But until right now, what we know is there's some chemicals.

[1307] They go into some, they pass through the brain blood barrier and then this really unpredictable pattern of images and experiences and feelings come up and we don't really know what it is but we do know that those experiences also happen when you're about to die we know that those experiences happen in you know people that are going through near death experiences right it's like sort of the same i've always wondered if that's what a near death experience was is maybe the body thought it was going to shut down permanently and released all the DMT and then maybe revived so but you still get to experience that could be I've always thought of that.

[1308] Like, what if you shoot yourself in the head?

[1309] If you shoot yourself in the head, is that, like, you don't get a chance to go to the next level?

[1310] Blast it all out of your head.

[1311] Or is it so good that it recognizes as the bullet hits your skull, it just bursts out.

[1312] It's just like a blink.

[1313] Yeah, that's fucking amazing.

[1314] One thing I will say about psychedelic experiences, and I've heard you talk about this before, is invariably they always take me and guide me and hold me over any issues that I have in my life, and it's like a fucking giant magnifying glass.

[1315] The last time I ate mushrooms was about three years ago, and I had some issues going on with, I felt like I wasn't working hard enough and I wasn't treating some of my friends and contemporaries with enough respect, and I ate mushrooms, and within like 10 minutes, it was on an empty stomach.

[1316] I was having terrible fucking panic attack.

[1317] And, you know, some people call it a bad trip, but I think it's actually a good experience because it was necessary and therapeutic for me. invariably this happens and if I have no issues going on I don't necessarily feel that way so it's it's good for for those things I agree totally that that uncomfortable feeling is very important to me it's terrible when it's actually happening but it's such a growth experience when it's when you go through it and when it's done it's it's like getting off of a roller coaster you just kind of feel euphoric and relaxed and and you come out with a different piece of mind and and I've always I've any time I've ever done them I found any issues in my life that I had I could resolve in a healthier way or at least had a better perspective on them yeah those uncomfortable moments it's almost like you know you have a subconscious and it just sort of gets filled your subconscious gets filled with this one bullshit thing that it's like and then once you kill off the consciousness and enter into the psychedelic state it's like look man we got a backlog a bullshit that you've been saving up here and this warehouse what do you want to do with it and you're like oh i didn't know it was all there well i have a friend that was very heavily for seven eight years addicted to oxycontin and tried to kick 30 40 different times didn't work so he went down to saint kits and did ibogaine therapy and what i've heard about ibogaine in comparison to even DMT or acid is it fucking digs excavates everything that you have from when you were a child even everything that you have the deepest darkest shit that you have buried covered in cobwebs and it brings it all out and it resets your body and people will come away not only not addicted to painkillers but he stopped smoking cigarettes stopped drinking caffeinated beverages stopped eating any artificial sweetener or corn syrup and just experienced a very terribly painful memories from his child Childhood and it almost cleansed him out entirely and that's what iBogaine does is it essentially Resets your entire existence on a physical mental and emotional level and so many people are you know Of course it's illegal here, but so many people are being saved from opiates and and other addictive substances with it.

[1318] Yeah, it's really kind of stupid.

[1319] It's not just kind of stupid.

[1320] It's an incredibly stupid that it's illegal and it's incredibly infantile this this country that we live in is really trapped.

[1321] We are absolutely trapped by money and we're trapped by influence of the people with money that want to continue making money so they've stopped a bunch of things from being available and psychedelics being a big one because they're so consciousness changing and they can affect the they can affect so much of the system whether it be financial whether it be political governmental when you incorporate something that can radically change consciousness almost instantly Like your friend immediately kicks cigarettes, kicks oxies, becomes this different person.

[1322] Those type of radical shifts, you apply them to a population.

[1323] And the number one issue that you're going to have is you're not going to be able to lie to those people as easily anymore.

[1324] When people are lying to themselves, they're easy to lie to.

[1325] And as soon as they're not lying to themselves anymore, they'll recognize when you're lying to them.

[1326] You know, I'm really good at spotting bullshit artists.

[1327] And one of the reasons I'm really good at spotting bullshit artists is because I don't bullshit.

[1328] I try to be very nice I try to be as nice as I can as much as I can I really do put a lot of effort into that but I'm not hearing it if you're full of shit you're not helping yourself you're not helping me I'm not trying to be mean to you but I'm just saying that's nonsense you know it's nonsense and I know it's nonsense let's just stop right here that's probably why you like psychedelics because they don't tolerate bullshit there's no bullshit at all there's no bullshit in the pot brownie bro pot brownie is a psychedelic as far as I'm concerned they are psychedelic dude the first thing time I ever ate a pot brownie, it was one of those like ignorant experiences where you eat one and you're like, you know, an hour goes by and you're just kind of like, eh, this is kind of mellow.

[1329] So you eat another one.

[1330] And then two, three hours later, your fucking eyes are dilating it.

[1331] I puked.

[1332] I mean, it was, I mean, you trip.

[1333] I mean, you trip.

[1334] Bottom line, you fucking trip.

[1335] You trip.

[1336] It's a real, it's a real psychoactive substance.

[1337] We've talked about adenosium on the show before.

[1338] But in the interest of people that have never heard it before, there's a, there's a chemical called 11 hydroxymetabolite.

[1339] It's produced by your liver.

[1340] when you eat pot.

[1341] It's five times more psychoactive than THC.

[1342] It's a completely different experience and it's not available to you psychoactively when you smoke it.

[1343] So that's why, like I've given brownies to people before and they go, dude, this was fucking laced, man. There's something else in here, man. No, that is what it happens.

[1344] That is what happens when you get a hold of an edible marijuana product.

[1345] My dad is 70 years old and hadn't smoked weed or anything since the 60s.

[1346] And within the last three or four months, My stepmom is having a lot of nerve pain in her back, and she asked, they asked if I could acquire some marijuana for them, so I got him a little bit to smoke, and they enjoyed it.

[1347] And his friend that he plays acoustic guitar with, they smoked one night, and to return the favor, he gave my dad some cookies.

[1348] And my dad ate a cookie, and my stepmom ate a cookie, and it was the most fucking disastrous experience.

[1349] Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do.

[1350] Phone call at 2 in the morning.

[1351] Just like you need to come save us Come take us to the hospital I mean it was awful And I was like what did you do We ate pot cookies You're fine Go to sleep It'll eventually fade Just go over there and give him a hug Where was he?

[1352] Is he driving distance from you?

[1353] Yeah he's driving distance from me Go give him a hug He's all right He's all right That's when you break out the fake thing Like just drink a cup of milk And within 30 minutes Everything will be fine Like if they almost trick them I have heard those before Like I've heard coffee that coffee is one of the best at killing pot brownie uh buzz i heard zanix i wouldn't fuck with that zanx that sounds like there's not enough like literature i don't think i would add that because i know that um people have done m ao inhibitors uh and they've taken them with iawaska to like try to up the effects or with mushrooms or uh different things to try to up the effects and it's disastrous yeah like chemical, pharmaceutical, MAO inhibitors, because, you know, ayahuasca is a combination of orally active DMT, which becomes orally active because of this thing called harmin, which is an MAO inhibitor.

[1354] It's really an incredible chemical concoction that they figured out how to do in the Amazon, where they take the leaves of one plant and the vine of another and they combine the two of them because monoamine oxidase, which is MAO, kills DMT in the gut.

[1355] So when you eat it, normally it gets squash before it ever gets into your blood system.

[1356] But this stuff is an M .A .O. inhibitor.

[1357] So it...

[1358] Oh, so when you eat it, it...

[1359] Yeah.

[1360] So people have tried to fuck around and go, oh, hey, you know, my mom's on M .A .O. inhibitors for X disease, whatever.

[1361] I'll just take those with it.

[1362] And apparently, it's like the worst experience you could ever have in your life.

[1363] Like, it erases your memory of how to, like, move your toes and shit like that.

[1364] Like, it can really fuck with you.

[1365] So I wouldn't fuck with Xanax and pot brownies.

[1366] unless you really know what you're doing.

[1367] I wouldn't fuck with Xanax in general.

[1368] That is a severely dangerous drug.

[1369] That, I mean, there is, you know, anything that will kill you if you withdraw from it.

[1370] I mean, it, you know.

[1371] My wife has a friend.

[1372] It's very religious and very anti -drug.

[1373] Would not do drugs.

[1374] Christian scientists.

[1375] We don't even drink, Mormon.

[1376] We don't even drink.

[1377] And takes Xanax every night.

[1378] What?

[1379] Exactly.

[1380] Like, my wife will be having conversations with her.

[1381] and the bitch will just drift off into like blah blah talk and there's just and she's like hello are you there like what's going on over there oh no you know nothing just took xanax isn't zanics what they they prescribe to people that have a fear of flying you know yes yeah my sister takes it before flying yeah well domerer takes it every day yeah that's right yeah dom has a zanx issue he takes it every day Like recreationally or a little bit of both?

[1382] I'm sure he's got some sort of a prescription, but he likes to booze with it too.

[1383] That shit is, you know, that's even more dangerous than like opiates or meth because if you quit those two abruptly, any benzodiazepine, I think it's benzodiazepine is how you say it?

[1384] Yeah.

[1385] X, Klonopin, shit like that.

[1386] If you quit those two abruptly, your body will shut down.

[1387] Yeah, what the fuck, man. And they're everywhere.

[1388] Yeah, and they're like one of the most prescribed drugs.

[1389] Yeah.

[1390] All the popular drugs, you know, Adderall, oxy, Xanax, these are the things, they're the absolute worst for you, but they're the most popular.

[1391] Yeah, those are the ones.

[1392] Those are bringing all the money in.

[1393] And that's why Ibo Gain is illegal, because if people start taking ibogaine, they're going to stop taking all those other drugs.

[1394] Well, it's also because they don't even want to open up the dialogue for Schedule 1 substances.

[1395] Right.

[1396] Any of these drugs that were made illegal during the sweeping psychedelic legislative legislative.

[1397] legislative acts of 1970.

[1398] That's when the psychedelic drug laws were passed.

[1399] They were just trying to stop the hippie movement.

[1400] They were like trying to squash everything.

[1401] So they made everything illegal.

[1402] A lot of people don't realize that before 1970, acid was legal.

[1403] Mushrooms were legal.

[1404] You could get a hold of these things.

[1405] Before 1970?

[1406] 1970.

[1407] Wow.

[1408] Yeah, let's pull it up.

[1409] Psychedelic Drug Act of 1970.

[1410] Deltic Drug Act.

[1411] That'd be so.

[1412] awesome if it was legal well it would change the world and it did change the world and there's a reason why if you go and listen to buddy holly and then you listen to jimmy hendricks you know you're you're only dealing with a 10 year difference and it might as well be a billion you know i mean listen to voodoo child and listen to love love me do and uh and realize that this is you're just you're you're dealing with just a few not the love love me do isn't a great song but the early beetle stuff it's like so simplistic it's so different you know and then listen to the white album, you know, listen to some of the shit that they did once they were obviously tripping, you know?

[1413] Yeah, no. It came in through the bathroom window.

[1414] I mean, they had some just really varying, strange tunes.

[1415] They developed this different sort of sound, and I think it changed pop culture, it changed human beings.

[1416] We went from this father knows best society to you know, to the freak brothers.

[1417] I mean, it really, like, it opened up all these weird doors that they were absolutely terrified.

[1418] Yeah, classically, substances like that make better music and then in certain cases when artists sober up their music always suffers in a prime example i'm not trying to shit on him but im and m used to be on a lot of like drugs and mushrooms and made like some amazing shit and then he sobered up and he started becoming like a fucking long distance runner or something and now it's just like sterile i'm sorry have you heard his new song yeah he phoned that one in i think there's an issue um with human beings uh where there's a wild recklessness that enables a certain amount of creativity to happen.

[1419] And then you also get a bunch of success.

[1420] And then you lock yourself in and you separate yourself from society and you become more disconnected.

[1421] And then you sort of like hide from people even more.

[1422] And then the extent of your social experiences shifts.

[1423] Things become very different.

[1424] Like it happens with a lot of rich comics.

[1425] Their social experiences shift.

[1426] And then they take less chances and, you know, something that you really have to like, fight off.

[1427] Yeah, they become much more comfortable and surround themselves with people that are going to validate maybe, you know, shittier, not fleshed out material.

[1428] Yeah, what was this, Brian?

[1429] I saw this on the board.

[1430] Oh, yeah, this is the other this is the, what was he doing?

[1431] What was this like two nights ago?

[1432] Was he bored?

[1433] Yeah, he was trolling.

[1434] I think he's yeah, that's what I've heard.

[1435] He just was like making faces the whole time.

[1436] That seems like something I would do.

[1437] Yeah, it does.

[1438] You know, when we announced on the UFC, they announced once that Rhonda Rousey and Misha Tate were going to be the coaches.

[1439] It was Katzangana originally but she got injured and they announced it on TV and I was making all these crazy faces and so many people thought I was, I was being disrespectful that I didn't, I mean he just decided to put it into that frame and decided that what I was like, I was like what, women, what do you, like that was my point of view, which wasn't at all.

[1440] It was women and men together.

[1441] First of all, it was like, whoa, Ronda Rousey is and a host and then it was like wait a minute women and men are going to be in the house together that's fucking crazy yeah like that was what i was saying but people just decide that you know a facial expression is you know you make the best facial expressions i told somebody online that if they somebody took off your last tv show they just took all the times you made like those crazy eyes you know and stuff if they edited it all into one video of just you making eyes it would be the coolest video in the road those people that that believed in the things that i was mocking got so mad at me from facial expressions.

[1442] What were you mind?

[1443] Everything.

[1444] That's the problem with doing that show.

[1445] I really enjoyed doing that show, and then sci -fi was really awesome to work with.

[1446] They're great people, and I really like those guys.

[1447] But the real problem with doing that show is it's, unless you're talking about a real subject, like transhumanism, like the idea of technology replacing human bodies and things along those lines, or infectious diseases, something that was real that we actually could study, then you're talking in the same type of people.

[1448] These really nutty white guys who believe in a bunch of nutty shit that is probably pretty easily disproven.

[1449] If it's not easily disproven, it's at the very least marginalized fairly quickly.

[1450] Like, there's things that cannot be disproven like alien life, which I believe in.

[1451] Chorus.

[1452] I mean, I think you kind of be stupid.

[1453] Not only do I believe in it, just because a lot of people think that I didn't believe in it from doing that show.

[1454] They were like, you know, oh, you fucking, you think you're above it.

[1455] You don't even believe in aliens.

[1456] You know how stupid that is.

[1457] Like, that's not true at all.

[1458] I absolutely believe that there could be alien life out there.

[1459] I absolutely believe it's most likely alien life.

[1460] In fact, Neil de Gras Tyson, when he was explaining infinity, and this was such a mind fuck, but he said infinity is so enormous that not only has everything on Earth in his exact order has happened on another planet somewhere else in the universe, but it's happened an infinite number of times in the exact order.

[1461] That's how big infinity is.

[1462] then infinity literally has no end.

[1463] So if it can happen here, and if these words, these stumbles, these ums, these you, these have taken place in the exact same order, the exact same movements of my hand.

[1464] There's been an incarnation of this podcast and this conference.

[1465] Right now I'm touching, I'm touching my fingernails together for no reason whatsoever.

[1466] I've done that somewhere else in the universe at the exact same time.

[1467] That is fucking insane.

[1468] Yeah, that's how big infinity is.

[1469] It's so big that eventually it overlaps.

[1470] and it happens again, the exact pattern of what's happening now.

[1471] Not only that, it happens an infinite number of times.

[1472] That's fucking crazy.

[1473] Because I've heard that podcast, and the one that I thought was nuts was when he talks about if you go through a black hole and then you watch the fucking universe slowly that one's a little crazier.

[1474] All of it's crazy.

[1475] Well, there's the thing that these quantum guys are saying now is that inside every black hole is potentially a whole other universe and that what a black hole may be is the doorway to another universe.

[1476] And these other universes might have completely different laws of physics.

[1477] They might be completely, and they might be exactly the same.

[1478] It might just be a fractal thing where inside every black hole is another universe with hundreds of billions of galaxies and inside each one of them is another black hole.

[1479] They found out, like, I think it was the beginning of the 21st century or close to it.

[1480] They found out that inside every, when you look at a galaxy, the center of every galaxy has a supermassive black hole that's like, I think it's one half of one percent of the entire mass of the galaxy.

[1481] So the bigger the galaxy, the bigger the black hole.

[1482] They exist in every single galaxy.

[1483] And they were like, well, this is madness.

[1484] Like, we didn't even know this before.

[1485] And now we have to figure out why it's there.

[1486] And so the most recent theory, and they back it up with that crazy goodwill hunting math where they have a chalkboard.

[1487] It ends and with fucking pinatas on the top of them.

[1488] You're like, I don't even know what the fuck you're drawing.

[1489] But they say that that's what their calculations have sort of revealed.

[1490] It's that most likely every galaxy has a gateway to another universe.

[1491] inside of it.

[1492] Now, come on, man. Everybody knows that the Earth is only 7 ,000 years old.

[1493] Of course.

[1494] That's what you're growing up around, right?

[1495] 100%.

[1496] And I'm talking like family members, and I have had this discussion where they say, you know, no, it's about 6 ,900 something years old.

[1497] Humans are fucking older than that, but that's what they believe.

[1498] They believe.

[1499] It's called Young Earth.

[1500] Young Earth Christians.

[1501] They believe in a young earth.

[1502] Yeah, unbelievable, right?

[1503] Absolutely.

[1504] What the fuck man did you moreronic man there's um there's this a recent discovery that they just found um uh i want to say somewhere in south america they're like drilling for i put it on my twitter i'll try to see if i could find it real quick but they found these armadilloes that are the size of cars they found these things that were living like just you know just a few you know a few thousand years ago 14 20 000 years ago plus they found all this crazy shit that they didn't even know existed.

[1505] All these fossils.

[1506] And this is just one exploratory drilling where they were trying to get to find out if there's like oil or something somewhere.

[1507] And they're like, holy shit.

[1508] I think a lot more of that is going to happen.

[1509] I mean, what?

[1510] Three days ago, like you were saying, the biggest volcano in the solar system was discovered.

[1511] So you have to wonder what else is going to be found.

[1512] Yeah.

[1513] We said it was not as big as the one on Mars, but like super big, like really close.

[1514] Jesus Christ.

[1515] Yeah.

[1516] So imagine knowing all this.

[1517] and having the will to have this type of infinite imagination for what the universe is and then being told that Earth is 7 ,000 years old and to get your clothes on because we're going to Sunday school.

[1518] I mean, that's what it's like living there.

[1519] Yeah, and the thing is that all those people, they can be cured too.

[1520] All those, if you separated them all and got the mall, here it is, Venezuela is Jurassic Park.

[1521] If you took all those people and gave them psychedelic experience, and brought them around people that they trusted that were, you know, that had been experienced and removed from it and someone who could tell them, listen, man, you've just, you've fallen into a bad pattern.

[1522] Right.

[1523] You're wrong.

[1524] You're wrong.

[1525] God doesn't hate fags.

[1526] You know, there's no such thing as a fag.

[1527] It's like there's gay people, this stray people, as humans, and everybody has like a different, there's a reason why your hair's red and this guy's hair is black.

[1528] It's just genetics.

[1529] It's a roll of the dice.

[1530] Sometimes they turn out gay.

[1531] There's nothing wrong with it.

[1532] Right.

[1533] Like, what?

[1534] What?

[1535] The Earth is apparently 4.

[1536] Whatever billion years old.

[1537] You're wrong about that.

[1538] It's been around forever.

[1539] And we've been here for, I think, one 18 ,000th of a percentage for as long as Earth has been around, human beings have existed.

[1540] That's how fucking short we've been here.

[1541] Yeah, when you ever see those science shows, will they show you the history of the Earth?

[1542] Oh, my God.

[1543] We're like right here.

[1544] And then there's, you know, the Triassic area and all these other eras.

[1545] I mean, we're like a few thousand years.

[1546] But we're changing everything in that small amount of time.

[1547] We're sucking all the fish out.

[1548] 7 ,000 years, man. Yeah, it's nuts.

[1549] So 7 ,000 years of what, human civilization?

[1550] That's what they think.

[1551] They think that, you know, a talking snake in a fucking tree and a woman and a man who ate an apple.

[1552] And then there was, you know, the best part about the Bible, I'm not sure how many times you've read it.

[1553] But we have Adam and Eve and Kane and Abel and then it jumps like a couple hundred years.

[1554] And it never explains all the fucking incest that had to have happened in order to get to that point.

[1555] Because if you start with two people who have children, I mean, how else are they going to breed humans?

[1556] Yeah, I used to have a whole bit about Adam and Eve.

[1557] Did you?

[1558] Yeah.

[1559] The idea is just pretty silly.

[1560] Yeah.

[1561] And I think that having a son in February is what has made me go, okay, maybe we should get out of here.

[1562] Because I went through it and I know how it affected me, but I'm not sure if I want him.

[1563] to be exposed to some of the shit that I was exposed to.

[1564] Yeah, that's the process of becoming a parent.

[1565] You want to start nerf in the world.

[1566] Protecting your kids from things that made you awesome.

[1567] GTFO, man. Brian, pull this up because there's a bunch of crazy photographs.

[1568] It says, out of the oil emerges Venezuela's Jurassic Park.

[1569] Yeah.

[1570] Yeah, that's it.

[1571] I mean, this is a really small sample that these guys pulled up.

[1572] These paleontologists have found treasures rivaling.

[1573] the bountiful oil, a giant armadillo the size of a Volkswagon, a crocodile, bigger than a bus, and a saber -toothed tiger.

[1574] Oil company surveys of the soil have uncovered a trove of fossils dating from 14 ,000 to 370 million years ago.

[1575] Many of the 12 ,000 recorded specimens from the different areas are now kept in a tiny office of the Venezuelan Institute for Scientific Research.

[1576] This is incredible.

[1577] A strong smell of, look at that guy holding that fucking skull this is amazing a strong smell of oil fills the room as this guy opens a drawer of a filing cabin to reveal the tar -stained femur of a giant six -ton mastodon from 25 ,000 years ago i got one tattooed on my hand how big is six tons that's 18 that's 18000 yeah 18000 12 000 12 000 pounds yeah the ton is 2 000 pound yeah 12 000 pound animal oh my god how big is that?

[1578] How big is a 12 ,000?

[1579] How makes a regular elephant?

[1580] How many tons is a regular elephant?

[1581] Maybe a couple?

[1582] I don't know.

[1583] Maybe more than that, right?

[1584] You think?

[1585] Big, big ass elephant?

[1586] I don't know.

[1587] I should probably look that up.

[1588] But this is pretty incredible stuff.

[1589] Because this is not like they went digging looking for fossils.

[1590] They're looking for oil and they're finding this shit.

[1591] It's amazing.

[1592] Really, really, really, really, really amazing.

[1593] What's also lacking is a reliable indication that man hunted the me fauna that we're finding and lacking also are human fossils which is really interesting it's about twice the size by the way that mastodon is about the twice the size of a of a elephant of a big African elephant yeah they're about six tons so like a king fucking African elephant is six tons and they were just walking around they were just wandering around well you know then you think about like megosaurus or or how many fucking tons did those way You know megasaurus?

[1594] What's a megasaurus?

[1595] The megasaurus is like the giant fucking version of the Tyrannosaurus.

[1596] Hold on, I'm going to tell you how much of these ways.

[1597] Jesus.

[1598] A giant Tyrannosaurus.

[1599] Well, yeah, but they were like way bigger.

[1600] Hold on, I'm going to tell you.

[1601] I think they believed that what was going on was that at one point in time, the Earth had a different oxygen level than it has today.

[1602] Like during the Jurassic period before the meteor impact, it was a much richer, dense environment.

[1603] and I think it made it easier for animals to grow big and also easier for them to move around.

[1604] That makes sense.

[1605] That's a megasaurus.

[1606] I don't think that's it.

[1607] Yep, that's it.

[1608] No, here.

[1609] Megasaurus.

[1610] Is that a new one?

[1611] Yeah, he eats through color.

[1612] Megalosaurus, sorry.

[1613] Megalosaurus.

[1614] Yeah.

[1615] You know, another weird thing about dinosaurs, man, is that we only find, like, what made a fossil.

[1616] When you really stop and think about how difficult it is to actually make a fossil, especially in an area where something is eating everything.

[1617] I mean, if you're living in the ancient dinosaur days, how long did a body sit around before somebody fucking chewed it down?

[1618] Oh, fuck yeah.

[1619] And shit it out.

[1620] Like, you have to die in a mudslide in order to be preserved.

[1621] Like, everything just got eaten.

[1622] Those cunty dinosaurs.

[1623] I mean, nature is so good at, like, figuring out how to get rid of bodies.

[1624] Have you ever seen those videos of what happens when an elephant dies in Africa?

[1625] No. It's incredible.

[1626] It's incredible.

[1627] How quick.

[1628] If they have time -lapse videos of hyenas eating an elephant and how quick it just becomes nothing.

[1629] It's like a couple of days.

[1630] A huge ass elephant.

[1631] Okay, here you go.

[1632] The biggest, this is Argentinosaurus.

[1633] Now, this is the biggest dinosaur ever, biggest documented dinosaur ever, 120 feet from head to tail.

[1634] Wow.

[1635] And weighed 100 tons.

[1636] Jesus Christ.

[1637] 100 fucking tons.

[1638] God damn.

[1639] that's insane just one vertebrae of an argentinosaurus is over four feet thick can you imagine the poos one vertebrae is four feet thick four feet thick that's this wide that's a vertebrae yeah four feet thick a vertebrae holy shit it's amazing that those things were around for hundreds of millions of years too that's what what's the most amazing thing is we think of earth and we think of us we can't even imagine an earth without us yeah no earth is is like we've just got here yeah just got here time i'm gonna pull up time lapse videos look at that fucking thing man oh my god is that one of the yeah there's a silence silence because even though this is an audio podcast we're staring at dinosaur pictures by the way we're 12 what did you say you 32 i'm 46 we're little children we're we're we're grown -up little children.

[1640] Pull up time -lapse video, elephant devoured in seconds.

[1641] High -powered, high -speed time -lapse shows seven days of animals feeding on an elephant carcass.

[1642] It's fucking crazy.

[1643] In seven days, it's gone.

[1644] And that's an elephant.

[1645] And that's Africa.

[1646] That's not even dinosaurs.

[1647] You know, dinosaurs, compare a hyena to a dinosaur.

[1648] I mean, shit.

[1649] T -Rex, they believe, was most likely actually a scavenger.

[1650] Yeah, I've heard that.

[1651] I've heard that T -Rex was a scavenger.

[1652] They don't know that though for a fact They're still trying to figure it out Because they also have to take into consideration the fact That the bodies could move differently then Because the oxygen level was different The problem they have with it is they look at the body of that thing And they go how fucking big is that And they're also trying to figure out how it walked Because they have that they there's other speculations That they would walk through rivers And they would use the tail to balance their large You know their heads were fucking huge So they would walk through rivers and then they would go to the land and scavenge.

[1653] Did you pull up that video?

[1654] Yeah.

[1655] Look at how quick these things.

[1656] Look at that's a leopard.

[1657] Leopard.

[1658] This is over seven days.

[1659] They're a leopard, right?

[1660] Jaguar's South American.

[1661] Leopard's African.

[1662] Aren't jaguar's black, too?

[1663] I think some of them are.

[1664] I think some of them are actually, they have spots.

[1665] Oh, my God.

[1666] Jesus Christ.

[1667] That's a hyena.

[1668] Yeah, that's a hyena.

[1669] Hyenas go to war, dude.

[1670] Hyenas are monsters.

[1671] They're scary fucking animals.

[1672] Have you seen the video of the fucking animals?

[1673] pack a hyenas fighting the lions and the one where the hyena starts like barking and and stop right the whole gang shows up there's a there's a there's a hyena that's getting bested by a couple of lions yes so you know you've seen that it goes to the male lion shows up yeah the giant one who kills hyenas well then the fucking hyena goes and starts barking and like 40 hyenas come from the mountains and then they go and fuck these lions up yeah fascinating man they they fucked up the female lines and there's this one male line that's enormous that they have like a nickname for him, you know, he who comes with thunder or some crazy shit like that, and he comes in and just fucks up all these hyenas and kills them and snaps their backs and shit.

[1674] Have you ever seen the video of the, this is one of my favorite YouTube, I'm sure you've seen this, but it's the, the bees that get addicted to alcohol.

[1675] Yeah.

[1676] And then the worker bees will rip their legs off so they can no longer be a part of the hive.

[1677] Yeah.

[1678] Yeah.

[1679] How nice is that?

[1680] Yeah, very nuts.

[1681] Fuck the wild.

[1682] That's all I have to say.

[1683] Fuck all that.

[1684] Fuck all that.

[1685] that shit.

[1686] Pull up lions versus hyenas.

[1687] It's the very first video.

[1688] This is a confrontation between two eternal African enemies.

[1689] See, when I was a kid, I used to think hyenas were like nice, like dogs.

[1690] Like you could go up and pet one.

[1691] They're so evil.

[1692] There's a story of a woman who was she was a trainer.

[1693] She would train hyenas.

[1694] And one day, she got a limp.

[1695] She like twisted her ankle.

[1696] And these hyenas that had been listening to her and following her directions, couldn't resist and just dove on her grabbed the hold of her calf and clamped down on her took a chunk off of her they when they find if they see you're limping they literally can't help themselves they can't help it they can't help it that's what their instincts are for they're the cleanup crew this isn't a good video this isn't the one we wanted yeah there's one um that has uh the the actual confrontation yeah lions versus hyena is a terrible fight that's it yeah that's it yeah they uh that's a hard world man it's a hard fucking scrabble world living out there with lions and hyenas, but my point being is that we're not really totally sure of how many different animals were alive.

[1697] We only have what got trapped in mud.

[1698] We have a good amount of those over the course of hundreds of millions of years of dinosaurs, but it's very possible that a few slip through and just were eaten.

[1699] Well, the craziest thing to think is that 99 % of all documented animals are extinct now in history.

[1700] That's incredible.

[1701] It is incredible.

[1702] Or that up to a hundred different species alone go extinct per day in the rainforest.

[1703] Because there's so many different pods of the rainforest where just an isolated species could be living like a mutant grasshopper or something.

[1704] And they go extinct every single day.

[1705] Yeah.

[1706] When they find something like this crazy Venezuelan Jurassic Park type thing and they find all these new animals, it's like you really have to wonder how many of these have not been found.

[1707] I mean, how many, they found that Hobbit guy just a few years ago.

[1708] Yeah.

[1709] In the early 2000s, I believe it was.

[1710] What is that?

[1711] Lucy, is that what that was?

[1712] No, no, no, no, no. Lucy was an actual ancient hominid that was like the ancestor to man. This is a completely different branch of the primate tree.

[1713] These is like these humanoid, these little hobbit things.

[1714] They live on this place called the Island of Flores.

[1715] And as recently, as 14 ,000 years ago, these motherfuckers existed.

[1716] They were three foot tall, tiny people.

[1717] They used stone tools.

[1718] They had like little tiny brains and little tiny bodies, but they looked fairly human -like.

[1719] Yeah, they were like little hobby people.

[1720] And they were, there were a real animal that lived alongside human beings through most of our history.

[1721] Jesus Christ.

[1722] They might even still be alive.

[1723] That's what's interesting.

[1724] Well, see, you know, what I don't know.

[1725] It was 10 years ago, maybe, or maybe not even that long, where the helicopter over the Amazon found that small tribe of people that had, Turned out to be a hoax.

[1726] That was a hoax?

[1727] Yeah, the one they were painted, red.

[1728] You're fucking with me. That was a hoax?

[1729] No, no, yeah, it was a hoax.

[1730] Oh, Jesus Christ.

[1731] That's terrible.

[1732] I love that.

[1733] I loved that.

[1734] I loved that story, too.

[1735] Yeah, me too.

[1736] Where they were, like, holding the, they were trying to shoot their arrows at the helicopter.

[1737] That was that Universal Studios.

[1738] Oh, Jesus.

[1739] No, it wasn't a universal studios, but it was a hoax.

[1740] I don't know why they hoaxed it.

[1741] Why?

[1742] I don't know.

[1743] That sucks.

[1744] Let's find out Amazon, uh, Amazon.

[1745] I didn't realize that was a hoax.

[1746] Most.

[1747] Googled show ever.

[1748] I can't believe that...

[1749] I don't know Fukushima and what is it?

[1750] Fuku and Amazon hoax?

[1751] Yeah, there's a lot of shit you don't know, son.

[1752] Damn, man. Get on that.

[1753] Fake, uncontacted Amazon tribe is a hoax.

[1754] Oh!

[1755] Turns out it's not entirely true.

[1756] The photographer that took the picture, Jose Carlos has admitted that the tribe has in fact been known about since 1910.

[1757] He created the hoax in order to call attention to the dangers of the logging industry okay okay but still okay so let's say that it is true that they've only been known about since 1910 still real and and that still means that there's certain things that we probably have no idea are alive right now i mean even other forms of you know smaller forms of humans or uh people that are further back in the evolutionary tree yeah you know I mean there could be a small island with those little fucking habit people like you were saying that's what they're saying is that this uh homo florian That's the actual animal, the actual human being that existed.

[1758] It was three feet tall, and they lived off the island of Flores in Indonesia.

[1759] Well, there's an animal that, or a thing that they call the Orang Pendeck that these locals have been describing for decades.

[1760] And it's exactly like this Hobbit thing, little three -foot -tall human being, that until when they discovered this, I think they discovered it in like, I want to say like 2003 or something.

[1761] Two studies.

[1762] Okay, 2005 and 2007.

[1763] So it's really fucking recent.

[1764] And up until then, they thought this Orang Pendeck was just bullshit.

[1765] But the Orang Pendek now, they think, might be this homo Florianist that's living in very small, isolated numbers and hiding from people.

[1766] Because if it's smart enough to be using tools and you're dealing with the jungle, this thing might actually be still alive.

[1767] Any relation to Bigfoot?

[1768] Yes, this is a cousin.

[1769] This is a really sad cousin because Bigfoot can play basketball and all he could do is be a jockey.

[1770] It's, yeah, these, they actually, okay, Sumatra is where they find it.

[1771] I don't think it's, I think it's very possible that this thing is real.

[1772] The animal has allegedly been seed and documented for at least 100 years by forest tribes, local villagers, Dutch colonists, Western scientists and travelers.

[1773] Consensus among witnesses is that the animal is a ground -dwelling bipedal primate that is covered in short fur and stands between 30 and 60 inches tall.

[1774] It's basically the same size.

[1775] Orang Pendek is what it's called.

[1776] I mean, knowing that this animal used to be real, as recently as 14 ,000 years ago, and lived alongside human beings, really makes me wonder.

[1777] It's kind of fascinating.

[1778] and again it's completely fascinating 2005 that's a blink ago that's even that's you know so recent there's so much shit we don't know about what was here it's kind of weird when you stop and think about it you live your life and you're just kind of going on momentum momentum going to school graduating having a family doing your thing and then all around you is this world that has sort of been established and you have this idea of what it is and oh you know there used to be the pilgrims and they came here and When you really start getting the big picture of how recently we got here, how much change has taken place, how 200, 300 years ago, there was fucking nobody here.

[1779] Nobody.

[1780] No cities, no nothing.

[1781] And then you realize 200 years ago is just two lifetimes in a row.

[1782] Two lifetimes in a row ago, there's fucking slavery, there's people riding around on wagon trains and shit, 200 years before that, nothing.

[1783] So in four lifetimes, zero.

[1784] American Indians, they didn't even have horses back then.

[1785] A lot of the American Indians before the Europeans came, they were fucking just complete, like nomadic, tribal people, bows and arrows, wandering around, persistent hunting sometimes.

[1786] It's madness.

[1787] And what's even more maddenating is thinking about a lifetime from now what's going to happen.

[1788] I mean, it's fucking sky net, man, total recall.

[1789] Like, that's where it's going.

[1790] I feel it coming sometimes.

[1791] Yeah, so do I. I feel it coming when I get high.

[1792] I know that sounds so stupid.

[1793] But no, but I'm serious.

[1794] I get, there's a feeling I get sometimes.

[1795] I'm going to try to say this in a way that's going to make as much sense as possible.

[1796] But there's a feeling I get sometimes when I get really high and I start contemplating things, especially if I get in a tank.

[1797] I get this feeling like something's coming.

[1798] I get this feeling like we're going, like as a society, as a culture, we're going to be overwhelmed by a new version of what we're experiencing now, a new version of technology that's shaping our lives right now.

[1799] but a virgin that's so immersive and so that it drags us into it and makes us become a part of it so deeply that we may never have a life like this again and sometimes I really like take into account the life that we do live that you can just shut off your phone that you can just get in your car, turn the radio off and just hear the engine as you drive up Mahal and do whatever the fuck that might be gone there might be a time where Mac lethal can never disappear that you will always be tracked I mean you will always someone will always know where you are you will always be in touch you will always be connected you'll be always on you know that is 100 % it's coming yeah that's coming that freaks me out man that freaks me out yeah that's um but i think it's inevitable but it still freaks me out i mean no i mean i think i think we're closer to it than probably most people do i mean i think they could probably do that we could probably do some variation of that now well i think you and i may be a little more in tune to it because we spent so much time using the internet.

[1800] Both benefited from it, being shocked by it, but seeing just the experiences, the amount of shit that you interact with because the internet is so different than our parents.

[1801] It's so hard to...

[1802] Because they had no access to...

[1803] We have access to everything at the snap of a finger.

[1804] And there's this perception that the world has gotten worse and is a darker, more exploitative place.

[1805] And I don't necessarily believe that's true.

[1806] I just believe that we're exposed to every facet, every artery of the world now.

[1807] And we just now see how sick of a place it is.

[1808] And it's made us hyper -connected to everything that's always happened here.

[1809] And when our parents were here and before the Internet, they didn't have that type of access.

[1810] They lived in more of a Pleasantville type of bubble.

[1811] Yeah.

[1812] And it's terrifying and fascinating equally.

[1813] Well, I have a love -hate relationship with what's going on right now with our cultural.

[1814] as far as the influence of very aggressive, progressive people, whether it is feminist, like radical feminism, or whether it's, you know, veganism, or I'll make fun of that stuff a lot, but there's a part of me that recognizes that what we're seeing with, whether it's radical feminism or, you know, fighting against transphobia or fighting against homophobia or any of these things, what we're seeing is a culture that's become a way, of the imbalances in a way that's never been possible before.

[1815] There's a level of communication that's never been possible before.

[1816] Massive communities of online people who are, whether they're progressive or feminist or, you know, anti -transphobic or transgender supportive, they've formed like these aggressive communities that sometimes are a bit misguided in their approach for attacking people for beliefs that they believe, whether it's humor or whatever they feel like doesn't, like I've read this blog, where this one person was like, um, attacking all transphobic humor online.

[1817] And then I'm, and I, part of me was like, okay, I see what she's doing or, you know, she's trying to, um, expose what she feels is gross behavior.

[1818] But she's exposing it and she's saying humor and she's saying that it's lazy and it's this and that.

[1819] And that's when I got to go, well, okay, look, everybody's funny.

[1820] You know, I'm funny.

[1821] I, I, my head, I don't have any hair on it.

[1822] I used to.

[1823] I shaved it.

[1824] I have a scar in the back of my head for where I had a hair transplant operation where they take the hair and they put it.

[1825] It's stupid.

[1826] Wait, wait, wait, what?

[1827] I had hair transplant.

[1828] You had hair transplant.

[1829] Yeah, like in the 90s.

[1830] So where they take, and then they...

[1831] Slice out of the back of your head, like a piece of meat, and then they take the hairs and they just put them in there one at a time.

[1832] Yeah, they do like individual plugs.

[1833] It's ridiculous.

[1834] So wait, wait, wait, wait, what?

[1835] How did that work?

[1836] It doesn't.

[1837] It doesn't work very well.

[1838] I mean, it works.

[1839] A little.

[1840] I had hair, obviously, but it was starting to fall out still.

[1841] Like, the other hair was starting to fall out.

[1842] Really?

[1843] Really?

[1844] Now, now I'm left with these, what I described it as like taking a bunch of healthy people, move them to a neighborhood where everyone's dying.

[1845] Stupid idea.

[1846] So it's, they eventually die too.

[1847] No, no, no, they don't die.

[1848] They stay permanently because they're the hairs from the back of your head.

[1849] The hairs from the back of your head are genetically programmed to stay.

[1850] That's why when dudes go bald, they still have that like weird thing at the back of their head.

[1851] And that's where the logic comes from where they can move that here and keep.

[1852] So, but why doesn't, I don't understand why it doesn't work?

[1853] It does work.

[1854] It just doesn't work good enough.

[1855] It's not good enough.

[1856] The rest of the hair wants to fall out.

[1857] was using rogain for that and i was using propitia before but propecia kill my dicker really sure killed my dicker son yeah didn't kill my dicky but it didn't make my dicky as happy did you ever try nioxin this is what i had yeah that's it works kind of it puts little i i found that nioxin because i have male pattern baldness too i just wear a hat and grow it out back here so it looks like i'm full of shit but it it it gave me little baby hairs like it thickened it a little bit but they weren't real hairs they're if it's going it's gone if it's going if it's going it's going it's out of here you can do some stuff to keep it on but man it's tough action and uh i always tell people that the back of my head is a public service announcement like if you could look at my scar and you could go do you want one of those stupid things that there is to remind you don't do what i did and i'm happy like this i like having a shaved head it's it's very liberating to me yeah no it's nice is it true that anderson's sylva's hair will not grow or is that him trolling did he really burn all his hair off of his head with a hair product when he was 20 years old I have no idea I never even heard that before no he says he says he doesn't shave his head he says he burnt all his hair off oh he might be trolling he trolls a lot I know he trolls a lot he said you know he has step Steven Seagal on his camp now he's going to bring in Chuck Norris I saw that not that Chuck Norris isn't an excellent martial artist and was a legit world champion and if I was going to take martial arts instruction from people I fucking for sure would take martial arts instruction from Chuck Norris John Jack Machado oh yeah he's a black belt under John John John.

[1858] He's badass then.

[1859] How do you feel?

[1860] What do you think about Wydenman Silva, too?

[1861] I don't know.

[1862] My point, what I was getting at before that, is we got really sidetracked.

[1863] Sorry, sorry.

[1864] But I would be happy to talk about me with you.

[1865] My point is, I make fun of myself.

[1866] You know, I make fun of everybody.

[1867] And if you're, you're going to call someone transphobic because they make fun of certain trannies.

[1868] There's a fucking guy who's 50 years old, a 6 '5, who's playing women's college basketball.

[1869] If you don't make fun of that, you're an asshole, okay?

[1870] And if he doesn't realize that he looks ridiculous being a 6' 5, 50 -year -year -old man, competing with 18 -year -old girls and pretending he's a girl.

[1871] Or, you know, being a female now, I understand that.

[1872] But the fact that you get a reset, he did all his college credits.

[1873] He played all his college sports as a male.

[1874] But then when you change gender, you get a reset and you're allowed to go in with zero.

[1875] That's overly progressive.

[1876] It's overly progressive.

[1877] And my opinions on there's a woman that has been competing as an MMA fighter.

[1878] They live for a man. Live there's a man for 30 years.

[1879] It's total bullshit.

[1880] Yeah, because his, it's body.

[1881] is the fuck it's a man's body well not only that there's changes there's an there's absolute changes that take place but the the science that everyone's like trying to quote like the the really super progressive people are like you know there's good science to support that you know you really become a woman you lose your bone density no there's not there's not only that there's the amount of science that you are getting is all coming from either transgender doctors or people who are involved in the transgender procedure or monitoring what happens to a person there's never been a documented study of taking a male athlete.

[1882] It's been a male for 30 plus years, comparing the skills that they learned as a male, by the way, with a completely different muscle structure, completely different bone structure.

[1883] The mechanical frame is different.

[1884] The shape of the torso is different.

[1885] The wideness of the shoulders, the size of the hands, the hips, and the reaction time.

[1886] The big one is the reaction time.

[1887] And this is one that I don't hear people quoting.

[1888] There's been a 10 % studied, studied 10 % variation between men and females.

[1889] Men have a 10 % quicker reaction time.

[1890] When it comes to striking, that is a big deal.

[1891] That is a gigantic deal.

[1892] That might be the difference between Roy Jones Jr. being the top of the world and Roy Jones Jr. getting knocked down.

[1893] 10 % is big.

[1894] And, you know, but in talking about this, I became transphobic to a lot of these super ultra -progressive people.

[1895] And that's why I say that I have this love -hate relationship with this idea.

[1896] Because I think the love is I am all for everyone being able to be themselves.

[1897] I'm all for you being whatever you want to be, whether it's transgender or gay or, you know, cross -dressing.

[1898] I have a friend who works with a cross -dresser, and he's not gay, but he at work is a woman, and when he goes home, he changes, and he goes home, and he becomes a man again, and he has a family and everything.

[1899] He doesn't want to have a sex change operation, but he wants to wear women's clothes at work, and he wants to be referred to as a woman.

[1900] and so they don't you know they work for a big company and it's a gigantic corporation and they allow it it's a very progressive company and I think that's badass who gives a shit if a guy wants to wear a dress you know I want to wear a purse I wish I could wear a fucking purse but you know I get mocked I think I think the love -hate relationship that I'm talking about is that people are realizing that they do have a say because of this new electronic media because of the fact that you can post a blow that you know starts a debate and and exposes people to these ideas like here's one of them that's been coming up a lot recently and it's that having sex with a drunk person is rape and it's it's uh it's there i mean they're if you're so if you're sober not necessarily so if you're drunk and another person's drunk so which one is guilty then both so you're it's you're raping double rape oh my god listen i'm not joking around man it's It's an inch, but here's what I love about it, okay?

[1901] What I love about it is, I don't necessarily agree with it.

[1902] And why I don't, like, there's a, there's a man named Michael Shermer.

[1903] Michael Shermer is a very famous skeptic.

[1904] And he's being charged by this other guy, who's just radical, male feminist.

[1905] He's being charged with rape in his blog.

[1906] He says that he has taken advantage.

[1907] And the language is very strange that this guy uses to describe the situation, where he says, and he doesn't even told to him, it was told to someone else and then told to him.

[1908] so it's all very sketch.

[1909] But the language is that Michael Schumer got her into a position where she was unable to consent and then had sex with her.

[1910] I don't know exactly what that means.

[1911] What they're implying by all the other corroborating stories is that he likes to get women drunk.

[1912] And there was another woman who said that she met him at a party and he kept her wine glass full and she got drunker than she ever used to and she was really embarrassed by that.

[1913] And somehow or another she blames him for the fact that she got drunk.

[1914] But they're trying to isolate a pattern that this guy does, which is apparently get women drunk and have sex with them.

[1915] And my point is, first of all, there's a broad spectrum of what is drunk.

[1916] And if you say that having sex with anyone who's drunk is rape, what if they have one drink and they're kind of tipsy and they get horny and they love you and they're attracted to you?

[1917] Is that still rape?

[1918] Like, that's bananas.

[1919] If it's two drinks, okay, if it's six shots and a beer and you're fucking 100 pounds, Yes.

[1920] I would say that's rape.

[1921] Like if you're sober and that person's fucked up and you go, hey, don't worry about it.

[1922] Just lie down here.

[1923] Whoa, why are your pants coming off?

[1924] Hey.

[1925] Why is my dick in your mouth?

[1926] You still consider that rape?

[1927] That's rape.

[1928] Yeah.

[1929] If you're sober and you're taking advantage of someone who's unconscious, that's fucking.

[1930] Well, yeah, no, that's right.

[1931] If they're unconscious.

[1932] Yeah.

[1933] They're lying on the bed blacking out and you're taking their pants off.

[1934] I think that's rape.

[1935] But I think it's hard to quantify, you know, if they have six shots in a beer, if they have a, alcohol tolerance that's through the roof.

[1936] I mean, how do you, how do you discern between what's what their alcohol tolerance is and how much they can handle?

[1937] It's a good point.

[1938] It's a good point.

[1939] The idea is that after a certain point, you're impaired.

[1940] You're impaired, period.

[1941] And for you to take advantage of that person in that state that's akin to rape.

[1942] And what is interesting about this is even though I don't agree with that's the blanket statement is that they've forced the debate now.

[1943] And they've forced this really age old problem.

[1944] of creepy dudes getting women drugged and then having sex with them, which is fucking rape.

[1945] How many people have you talked to that are female that think their drink got mickeyed?

[1946] I've been a part of it.

[1947] I've seen it happen to a date.

[1948] I took a girl out.

[1949] It was one of my shows, one of my old shows when I was about 22 years old.

[1950] A girl that I was with, a guy approached her and gave her a drink and she was talking to him and she ended up on her ass.

[1951] I mean, couldn't think.

[1952] couldn't see straight, couldn't stand up straight, and it drove me, and I had no idea what was going on with her, but within like a matter of 15 minutes, completely fucking inebriated, unable to speak, had to carry her home, woke up the next day, had no idea what happened, she got fucking roofied.

[1953] Yeah, it got fucking roofied.

[1954] It does, and it's terrifying.

[1955] It's not just roofies, it's GHB, they slip GHB into people's drinks and it conks them out.

[1956] It happens all the time, all over the world, and it's sort of a thing that we know about but isn't discussed that often.

[1957] And what I like about what these radical feminists have done is they've opened up this conversation.

[1958] And now people are talking about it and they're debating it, whether or not it's true.

[1959] Well, is that rape?

[1960] That's rape?

[1961] No, that's not rape.

[1962] And in that argument, they force the dialogue, which I think is brilliant.

[1963] And it's a legit dialogue and it's an important subject because there are people that do drug people and take advantage of people.

[1964] But to call anytime two consenting adults have a few drinks together and then have sex, to call that rape, I think is fucking crazy.

[1965] Yeah, I mean, like, my wife and I will get a little tipsy together, and am I raping my wife?

[1966] Dude, this woman on Twitter literally had a campaign and a blog post about it saying that people are sad on Twitter when they found out that they're rapists because they disagreed with her.

[1967] This blanket statement of any time, like even if it's your spouse, why do that if they can't consent.

[1968] And what she's saying is if you're drunk, you can't consent.

[1969] It's a fascinating argument.

[1970] I don't agree with it, but it's fascinating that it's made people angry.

[1971] It's started this debate.

[1972] It's got people talking.

[1973] And that puts the energy on this very real issue.

[1974] But another guy had an incredible point.

[1975] Like, how could it possibly be that that's the only time where you're not responsible for your actions is sex?

[1976] If I get you drunk and then you decide to get in a car and drive home, is it my responsibility?

[1977] If you come over my house and we're both the same age, we drink wine together and you get in your car and you slam into a tree, did I force you to drive drunk?

[1978] If you're a man?

[1979] No. If you're a woman, did I?

[1980] No. Well, well, how does, if we're both drinking and then sex is involved?

[1981] How are we not both responsible for, you know, this situation?

[1982] Is it considered aiding and abetting?

[1983] I got in trouble when I was 17 years old.

[1984] I got adjudicated of two felonies, which is basically means I was 17 and not old enough to be convicted of them.

[1985] And we were at a party on the first night of spring break at a house.

[1986] party with a bunch of my friends.

[1987] I went to an alternative school, so they were a little more edgy, like, Mexican and black gangster kids, and we were all there, and there was a car on the driveway, and a girl came into the party and said, there's two skinheads outside in this car.

[1988] So 15, 16 of these dudes went outside and surrounded this car, and about four metal TPX bats came out of this garage, and they beat all the windows out of the car, jumped on the windshield, cracked it got the guys out beat the shit out of them with bats with bats now here's where it gets fucked up so there was some like SWAT team test mission going on about two blocks away and they heard what was going on so we're all standing there watching these kids beat the ever living fuck out of these skinheads and I don't even know if they were skinheads but all of a sudden like 20 -30 cops roll up in bulletproof vests with fucking black fatigues on and machine guns and shit well here's what's fucked up.

[1989] I never laid a single finger on any of these kids and I got in trouble because I had a cell phone in my pocket and I didn't call the cops and they called it aiding and abetting.

[1990] And that's the same fucking logic.

[1991] And I, I never understood because our argument was, well, if I would have pulled my phone out to call the police, maybe one of the kids with the bats, what bat would have hurt me or hit me. You know, it's very convoluted and fucked up.

[1992] And I don't think that's the same logic.

[1993] Because, um, You can't be responsible for keeping track of how many drinks and other adult has, especially at a party.

[1994] If someone's having a party in your house and you're all drinking together, and maybe you might not even know, but Mike had some whiskey and you didn't see him, and he got fucked up, and you thought he only had one glass of wine, you'd be fine.

[1995] I don't think that's aiding and abetting.

[1996] I think if you're in a bar, I think it becomes an issue.

[1997] But I think my point was if you see that they're drunk and then they get into a vehicle and you don't proactively try to prevent them or try to keep them there.

[1998] That's an interesting question.

[1999] I wonder what your responsibility is if they're coming from your house.

[2000] Yeah.

[2001] You might have some responsibility if you actually gave them the alcohol.

[2002] But I disagree with it.

[2003] That's where I draw issue with it.

[2004] Because there has to be at some point people have to have personal accountability.

[2005] Absolutely.

[2006] Personal responsibility for all adults, not just because you're a woman, you get to skirt it.

[2007] No pun intended.

[2008] Because the fact that you're a woman, it's not, that doesn't make any sense to me. If you're at a party and you have some drinks with someone and someone keeps pouring you drinks and then you try to accuse them of getting you drunker than you normally would and you use that as sort of a corroboration that this guy likes to get women drunk, like man, you've made some fucking crazy leaps there.

[2009] Yeah.

[2010] It sounds to me like a guy's offering you drinks, which you apparently said yes to because you like drinking.

[2011] Exactly.

[2012] Like there's some madness there.

[2013] There's some madness.

[2014] But it does.

[2015] the thing I like about it, it does open up this debate of people being fucking creepy and drugging people and treating them as less than human so that they can just shoot loads into them.

[2016] So you like, as long as all of these issues have an open and somewhat passionate dialogue going on, that's more what you're interested in.

[2017] It does, they don't though.

[2018] That's what's interesting.

[2019] These progressive blogs, the free -thinking blog this guy puts it on, they stifle even civil debates so quickly and harshly.

[2020] Anybody who thinks that this Michael Shermer guy is being unfairly accused and he doesn't have his day in court.

[2021] And what about his point of view?

[2022] You're supposed to be skeptical.

[2023] And yet you've taken this secondhand account of a situation and posting it as evidence without talking to the other person.

[2024] And everyone knows that personal experiences and the memories of personal experiences are extremely inaccurate.

[2025] Not only that, there's a lot that happens when people sober up.

[2026] They start attaching a bunch of remorse and all kinds of other shit to things.

[2027] And sometimes people have a psychological ailment where it forces them to cause other.

[2028] people or blame other people right for their own shortcomings there's a lot we all know a lot of people to do that yes and so you have to take into account all those things when you are using a personal account of a situation i've learned that the hard way i've backed people up before and then found out that they're probably full of shit you know later on like you're like oh well why didn't you fucking tell me that like you didn't you left that out man so this guy i think fucked up in doing this in a big way but he did open the debate and it did the debate is being, like, really passionately argued.

[2029] I think he's also fucking up and showing why he did it in the first place by stifling any civil discourse on his own blog, calling them trolls and saying they're too stupid to enter into this debate.

[2030] And it's also to add hominine attacks on anybody who has even a civil disagreement.

[2031] I mean, the people that they've shown, like a couple people have made videos of this, showing how ridiculous the banning of people that disagree with no disrespectful language at all, just banned, you know, from this guy's board.

[2032] Everyone is like super ultra supportive.

[2033] And then I've looked on other boards and it's entirely the opposite.

[2034] Everyone is completely skeptical of this and saying that this is white knight horseshit to the extreme and that this guy's an attention whore and this is not skeptical.

[2035] This is not, there's nothing skeptical or free thinking about this.

[2036] And that this is, this is also a problem with blogging about something is that you're not getting a dialogue.

[2037] You're getting one person who gets to express themselves in a rambling, verbose way.

[2038] Whereas if you're having a dialogue, someone can have a statement and someone can say, well, that's not true because of this.

[2039] And then we go, oh, I thought that.

[2040] No, no, this was actually the case.

[2041] And now you've got a dialogue where you're trying to reenact the information as it actually took place.

[2042] You're dealing with multiple parties.

[2043] That's the only way to get a really accurate assessment of what happened and even then it's skewed people they they'll one person will be more passionate they'll they'll be better at describing things the other person and maybe their memory's not as good and it's it's it's hard it's hard to recreate a situation completely accurately and you don't do it in a third -hand account on a fucking blog you just don't you don't get and to pretend that you do is asinine and it shows me that you're using your fucking ego and your your ego has been involved in this discussion Your ego to the point where you want your point to be absolutely correct and inarguable.

[2044] And that's bullshit.

[2045] But that's 99 % of blogging.

[2046] Yeah, but it shouldn't be that way when you're talking about a guy who's an ed.

[2047] He's a guy's a professor.

[2048] The guy's a professor and the, I mean, the blog is called free thinking.

[2049] I mean, it's like, it's so silly.

[2050] It's like everything that free thinking isn't.

[2051] It's like, here, you just failed an intelligence test in a massive, massive way.

[2052] Because you think, and the arguments are so strange.

[2053] One of them I saw, I've seen several, this one.

[2054] theme that keeps repeating itself over and over again is that even if this guy's unjustly shamed like it may be necessary to protect women to unnecessarily shame people who are innocent and i saw that and i said that's crazy thinking because it's never necessary to unnecessarily shame somebody that's not you don't you don't like throw out that's like witch trial shit you know you don't throw out accusations of witchcraft unnecessarily right so that you find the necessary witches and abolish them from your community.

[2055] Like, you're, that's no, never.

[2056] It's never okay to unnecessarily accuse someone of something they didn't do.

[2057] So if they get unduly or unjustly accused, it's okay if a few women are safe.

[2058] No, it's not.

[2059] It's a massive injustice against one person who is unjustly accused of a crime that he absolutely didn't commit.

[2060] I'm not saying that he did or he didn't, but that's a possibility as well.

[2061] And it's not being considered at all by any of these people.

[2062] And they're basing it on personal accounts and the guy's creepy and this and that.

[2063] Maybe he is.

[2064] He may very well be But as a person who calls yourself free thinking You have a responsibility An absolute responsibility to be objective about this idea And you're not being objective about it You're looking at it through this massive progressive ideological standpoint Fucking crazy man Yeah it's interesting But I like it What I like about it is not that this guy is being unjustly accused What I like about it is that we're having these really interesting dialogues now that I don't think took place on a large scale before and I find it along with all the other things that are shaping human culture because of the internet I find it all to be really I just say it's also pretentious to say it's so stimulating but it is kind of stimulating it's stimulating it's fascinating and it's all like bubbling up around us and changing at a rate that I don't think we're even recognizing man I think the rate is so rapid and so massive since 93, 94 whenever the internet became popular?

[2065] It's the Wild West, man. It's crazyness.

[2066] Yeah.

[2067] I mean, everybody has a platform and everybody has a voice and the ability to do it in a different or original way.

[2068] And it's all about if they can draw the attention to themselves.

[2069] Yeah.

[2070] It's redistributing the power of who has a voice and who doesn't.

[2071] And it's the fucking Wild West all over again.

[2072] The roaring 20s of the digital era.

[2073] That's what I've been calling it.

[2074] Yeah.

[2075] That's how it feels to me. Yeah, man. It's like it's new, it's uncharted, and it's alive.

[2076] It's electric.

[2077] And all these different people, whether I agree with them or not, whether I think they're flawed or not, and a lot of them are flawed, and I'm flawed too.

[2078] But this input and these new ideas that are encouraging all this debate and all this discussion, I think it's amazing.

[2079] I think it's one of the most amazing events in our entire history.

[2080] The history of our culture.

[2081] I think it's our crowning achievement as far as, I mean, honestly.

[2082] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[2083] I think it's, we're dealing with one of the most unique times in human history.

[2084] Sure.

[2085] And it's just sort of snuck up on us.

[2086] And Mac Lethal, you're a part of it, bitch.

[2087] I love it, man. You are, right?

[2088] All those YouTube people with their crazy edits, they couldn't, like, there are major record labels that would pay, that look at my YouTube channel as just an invaluable resource.

[2089] That would pay millions of dollars to be able to get the amount of subscribers I have because they can't do it because people aren't interested in them.

[2090] People aren't interested in these huge record labels or these huge entities that that produce you know homogenized generic music anymore and it's it's really rebellious and like for example russell simmons just launched a youtube channel called all deaf digital and he's essentially throwing millions of dollars all over the place to try to beef up his internet presence and be a part of this and i don't think he's going to be very successful doing it Why?

[2091] How come?

[2092] He's, I mean, he's just out of touch.

[2093] You know, his time was in the 80s and the early 90s when he could promote in New York City and wheat paste flyers and posters to walls and throw parties.

[2094] And he doesn't understand the Internet and how it works.

[2095] And, you know, the Internet requires a lot of humility and patience and constantly evolving and constantly engaging in dialogue, creative dialogue, being full.

[2096] Freethinking and I don't think that people like that understand that.

[2097] That's interesting.

[2098] There's a lot of people that are trying to capitalize off of YouTube right now because YouTube and Google have launched Google Fiber.

[2099] Do you guys have a Google Fiber out here?

[2100] Do we have a fat 100 megabyte up and down per second connect that we had to have installed like a high speed business line?

[2101] Yeah, it's dope.

[2102] So I think Google Fiber is a thousand megabytes a second, right?

[2103] Is it a thousand megabytes?

[2104] a second.

[2105] I think so.

[2106] It's a thousand megabytes a second.

[2107] Well, here's what they did.

[2108] There's a place called Wyandotte County in Kansas City.

[2109] And it's like this kind of like white trash, lower middle class area of Kansas.

[2110] It's a very odd place for them to do this.

[2111] But this is where they've beta tested Google Fiber.

[2112] And everybody in the county has it.

[2113] And essentially what they're doing is for $150 a month, they connect their fiber cable to your house.

[2114] you get a thousand megabyte per second up and down, you get 700 something original YouTube channels that are directly accessible by your television, and then you get all the network TV channels and a phone.

[2115] And essentially what they're trying to do is topple over network TV.

[2116] So about a year ago, Google threw like $70 billion at like 700, 800 different people to create original content on YouTube.

[2117] Farrell William, CNN, all these different people got these billion dollar investments and they said make us new content make us content that is going to shut down cable TV and that's what everybody's doing right now so it's a fucking very fascinating and very exciting time I'm waiting for someone to come along and do like a Game of Thrones online oh that's gonna happen it's gotta right especially because we're gonna have 4K accessibility now I mean on your phone on your phone you're gonna be able to use your Samsung Galaxy and fucking film Game of Thrones season five.

[2118] I mean, it's on.

[2119] Yeah.

[2120] It's on.

[2121] And that's what I love about all of this.

[2122] When I was coming up, I knew that I was maybe a little too weird, maybe a little too different to ever have a song on the radio.

[2123] I don't have the sex appeal that some of these, you know, prepy douchebag rappers have, or I'm not edgy enough or whatever it is.

[2124] So I always knew I was going to have to connect with people one by one and build my own empire.

[2125] And in the late 90s, this was just.

[2126] creating my own music at my house, sending off $1 ,000, getting a thousand CDs, manufactured, and selling them out of the trunk of my car, and one by one, building my own fan base.

[2127] Then, as the 2000s progressed and the internet got bigger, I realized people are getting online to listen to and find out about new music.

[2128] So I jumped on that shit a long fucking time ago, never sought out trying to make a radio single, never tried to get on a major record label.

[2129] I've had major record label deal offers in the past couple of years that have turned down because the money isn't good enough but I always knew that a humble brag was that a humble brag sorry about that let me take that back it's all right humble bags are okay okay fine part of life fine yeah they were on my dick so I just always knew that independent music with the internet when Sean Parker created Napster and we realized found out that they could take a very heavy, big -sized wave file and compress it down to a three or four megabyte MP3.

[2130] That was the death of the music business as we knew it then.

[2131] There was no way record stores were going to stay open.

[2132] There was no way records and CDs were going to sell like they used to.

[2133] And it was only a matter of time before the internet got more exposure, got faster.

[2134] People got on new computers and could download music.

[2135] And once that happened, it changed the game, completely revolutionized it.

[2136] So all these major record labels and all these huge platinum selling artists were completely shut down and then people like me had a lane.

[2137] And while we're not as big as, you know, some of these huge artists, Backstreet Boys or whoever the fuck, people like a mortal technique who I know you've had on here or me, we're able to use things like YouTube to directly connect to our fans.

[2138] And that's what's so exciting about Google Fiber is it's making it even better.

[2139] We're going to be able to put money into the shit that we do and have fucking big.

[2140] semi -decent productions and we don't have to rely on any major record label, any television network, anything.

[2141] It's fucking Wild West, man. Yeah.

[2142] It's amazing.

[2143] Yeah, well, we're getting legitimate sponsors now.

[2144] We're getting like real companies and stamps .com and legal Zoom and shit like that.

[2145] They don't have a choice.

[2146] Where else are they going to go?

[2147] Well, not only that.

[2148] We refuse to do like a real commercial.

[2149] Like, I don't really read it.

[2150] I just sort of say, I say their points, but I say it the way I want to do it.

[2151] And I only do it in the beginning.

[2152] I won't interrupt.

[2153] any of the podcast.

[2154] They wanted to stop.

[2155] Like, there's a lot of guys that are doing it now.

[2156] They're doing it like a TV show.

[2157] They stop every 15 minutes.

[2158] Hey, that's an interesting point, MacLethal.

[2159] You know what else is interesting?

[2160] Stamps .com.

[2161] If you have a business, and they're doing it that way.

[2162] And I don't want to do it that way.

[2163] Well, you don't have to.

[2164] We don't have to because we didn't.

[2165] And because it sort of became something very popular without that.

[2166] Yeah.

[2167] And as long as you have the people paying attention, that's all that matters.

[2168] Yeah.

[2169] You're directly connected to them and you don't need them.

[2170] You just don't need them.

[2171] That's what I've used YouTube and Facebook and Twitter to do is just get my weird music out there and my weird blogs out there and a lot of people like them.

[2172] And that's what's so fucking cool about it.

[2173] Yeah, I liked them.

[2174] Thank you.

[2175] Very cool about it.

[2176] Yeah.

[2177] I mean, I appreciate it.

[2178] We're both a part of that sort of thing where people found something that they just liked.

[2179] I've done a lot of different things, whether it's Fear Factor or News Radio or the UFC or what have you, but I don't really use any of those things to promote this podcast.

[2180] I never have.

[2181] This podcast sort of kind of found itself pretty organically.

[2182] And that just, you know, I don't, I don't know how it happened.

[2183] It just sort of happened.

[2184] Do you feel that from your days on Fear Factor to now that you've had several stages of reimagining your image or maybe the people, you've exposed yourself in different platforms so people learned more about who you are?

[2185] Because when I used to see you on Fear Factor, I would have never guessed that you would, fucking get in an isolation tank and take four grams of mushrooms and think about, you know, all of us having a collective conscious or something.

[2186] But then the more I learned about you through YouTube because you were on YouTube real early and I would just see these videos and be like, dude, this dude is dope and he's into like some cerebral shit.

[2187] And do you feel like this has helped people understand you better as a person?

[2188] Well, tell me, explain me better.

[2189] I mean, everyone loves to pigeonhole and if I didn't know me, I would certainly pigeonhole me. Sure, yeah, that happens.

[2190] fucking meathead douchebag making people eat bugs i wouldn't want to listen to me talk about anything philosophical or anything that i think of but one of the things about doing something like a fear factor where you you gain financial freedom is you also gain the freedom to speak your mind because you're not worried about the repercussions i always had stand -up comedy and i made money on fear factor and then i've always had the ufc i don't have to worry about speaking my mind and that has allowed me to to to have to have some freedom, and then doing a podcast allowed me to have a platform where I get to express myself.

[2191] People fucking, whatever weirdness, and no one's perfect, you know, everyone has flaws, everyone has, we change from day to day depending upon our stress level and what emotional shit we're dealing with, our personal life, our business life, or, you know, what have you.

[2192] We vary.

[2193] We all have a lot of variation in our behavior.

[2194] But when you talk to someone or you hear someone talk for hours and hours and hours and hours over the course of X amount of years you get an idea of who the fuck they are you really do you really do get they can't hide you can't hide three hours a day every fucking day you're going to expose yourself and in in that I think there's never been a vehicle ever that's allowed people to get to know people like they can off of the internet like they can from podcasts it's never existed and before artists used to be almost flawless that you you couldn't see their flaws and people gravitated towards that and now it's almost like people are more drawn towards people that do have flaws that they sometimes disagree with it's like an elevated version of what a rock star used to be because a rock star used to be this ethereal creative sexual being that there could do no wrong but i think that we elevated beyond that and now people want to know that this motherfucker might say some shit that i'm going to disagree with sooner like louis how he can't stop eating and he's chubby and a little out of shape and balding but that's what people gravitate towards now it's an it's like the anti image and it that's fucking amazing to me that's what i love about all this shit is that we're going above and beyond what people treat as people uh people worship or idolize we're taking it to a different level and connecting on a much more intimate and personal level absolutely that's a really good point i think the idolization and the rock star analogy is perfect because we always thought they could do no wrong that they are so perfect and we always thought like oh my god you're starstruck when you meet them i can't i'm not worthy i'm not worthy and then you realize somewhere along the line that that's just a person and when you are exposed to all a person's flaws and ups and downs and you realize there's a there's a very empowering thing to other people about i love talking about when i was a loser i think it's really important.

[2195] I talk about like all the times I was a pussy or scared or didn't have any courage or was social anxiety or you know just just really had no self -esteem.

[2196] I think it's super important to talk about those times so that people can realize like oh this isn't a guy who was successful always and always been confident and always he's different than me. I can't relate to that kind of thinking.

[2197] No, I used to get nervous talking to the bank teller.

[2198] I'd get tongue tied going to the bank, you know, especially when I was broke.

[2199] I was depositing a $50 check or something like that.

[2200] I'd get nervous.

[2201] I'd legitimately nervous.

[2202] No, I think that that's maybe one of the things is as a rap artist, people have connected to my shit because I all talk about, you know, my insecurities are all become vulnerable.

[2203] And I'm a rapper when that's not supposed to happen in rap music.

[2204] But you're a white rapper.

[2205] Yeah, that too.

[2206] You got a little more flexibility there.

[2207] I know.

[2208] I know.

[2209] Yeah, I think it's beautiful.

[2210] It's again, like everything else.

[2211] It's sort of exposing things in a way that it's never been possible before.

[2212] Oh, this is the Charlie Sheen one.

[2213] What is the Charlie Sheen one?

[2214] This is the best drug known demand.

[2215] Winning.

[2216] Check it out.

[2217] I'm Charlie Sheen.

[2218] Got cocaine jaw.

[2219] Fuck Brie Olsen.

[2220] Did the whole thing well.

[2221] I get two million every episode that's modest for my pay.

[2222] I got a fire -reeling fists and a dinners DNA.

[2223] Fuck A -A.

[2224] Fuck anybody with cancer.

[2225] Fuck porn stars.

[2226] Fuck dancers.

[2227] You call me an addict and I'll just smile, dream on punk bitch.

[2228] I'm the real Ricky Wild Thing Vaugh.

[2229] My line's polar.

[2230] It's the ninth inning.

[2231] You're bipolar.

[2232] I'm by winning.

[2233] Banging seven grand rocks tear my chest apart and you will see that I have three extra hearts doing 75 pounds of Yale every night that's love.

[2234] I win here and I win there.

[2235] Doing 75 pounds of Yale every night that's love.

[2236] I got tiger blood.

[2237] Charlie Sheen, Charlie Sheen.

[2238] Five foot nine with a heart on clean.

[2239] Blinked his eyes and he cured AIDS.

[2240] His women in cocaine are pure grade.

[2241] Okay, Charlie Sheen.

[2242] I got to get that guy on.

[2243] Yes.

[2244] Especially now that he's sort of like leveled out.

[2245] I saw him on Dr. Oz the other day.

[2246] I might be time.

[2247] Fuck Dr. Oz.

[2248] What do you mean Lebed Oz?

[2249] He was looking for...

[2250] How dare you?

[2251] No, no, no, no. I'm not there.

[2252] Let me hear.

[2253] Dr. Oz was going to have me on his show because his people enjoyed my pancake rap.

[2254] I also did a chickfilet rap.

[2255] When Chick -fil -A had that whole anti -gay thing, whatever.

[2256] I did a rap video where I remade a chick -fil -a sandwich and used the recipe so people didn't have to go to Chick -fil -A and support their anti -gay causes.

[2257] So they hit me up and they were like, we love your food, your food wraps.

[2258] We would love to have you on here.

[2259] to make like a strawberry banana smoothie or something healthy and promote healthy eating and do like a cool fast wrap and you know we'll fly you out you'll do it for free because it's great exposure and you'll love it and you're excited about this and I'm like okay yeah that's great so we book all this travel and get ready to do this and then they cancel it because of text from Bennett and because they were just like we don't want to be affiliated with that well explain text from Bennett because text from Bennett is fucking hilarious why they have a problem with text from Bennett I'm quoted on your book cover, right?

[2260] Yeah, it just says hilarious.

[2261] Perfect.

[2262] Hilarious, that's what I say.

[2263] I just said it again.

[2264] To explain text from Bennett to people.

[2265] Text from Bennett is a blog about my cousin, who is a 17 -year -old Crip.

[2266] Wigger Crip that's illiterate that sends me text messages that are accidentally genius.

[2267] And it's a real dude.

[2268] It's a real dude.

[2269] I wasn't even sure if it was a real dude.

[2270] Here's the thing about text from Bennett is, oh, that's Mercedes.

[2271] That's his girlfriend.

[2272] Bennett just broke my Drake CD.

[2273] Can you burn me another copy?

[2274] He says Drake color coordinates his outfit to match his bowl of fruit loops.

[2275] That's his girlfriend.

[2276] Pull up.

[2277] Pull up Bennett himself.

[2278] I hate my girlfriend Mercedes.

[2279] Here, these are all, well, is a Drake CD, keep going.

[2280] I'll tell you, oh, this is a, keep going.

[2281] We'll find a good one.

[2282] Okay, well, listen, the point is, your cousin, your cousin Bennett?

[2283] Yes.

[2284] Is he get a piece of all this?

[2285] Yes.

[2286] He does?

[2287] Yes.

[2288] How do you like What do you do with them?

[2289] Do you get them fucked up on Mad Dog 2020 And tell him hey Want you send me a text bitch You're right We worked it out for my aunt His mother I take care of I take care of his aunt instead of him Oh he worked it out with you that way Yeah I worked it out with him that way It was your cure call Yeah So he was willing to do that Yeah Huh I have a choice So Because here's the deal I said here I'm gonna write a book About this blog That has blown up, unbeknownst to you.

[2290] That's a real book.

[2291] So I'm going to write, well, this is a real book that it came out on Tuesday.

[2292] It's a novel.

[2293] Yeah, it's a fucking novel.

[2294] It's a, and it's Simon and Schuster released it.

[2295] It's in fucking bookstores right now.

[2296] It just came out.

[2297] And I got to tell the recount of, recount the summer where they came to live with me. And a network, which I can't say, has expressed serious interest into optioning it.

[2298] How gross is that statement?

[2299] You just went Hollywood on us.

[2300] I didn't mean to go.

[2301] has expressed serious interest.

[2302] I'm sorry.

[2303] I'm sorry.

[2304] We're back in that Kevin Bacon movie.

[2305] God damn it.

[2306] Did you see that Kevin Macon movie about, what was that movie called?

[2307] It's a great fucking movie.

[2308] Flightliners is a good movie.

[2309] No, that's not it.

[2310] It's a Kevin Bacon movie about Hollywood.

[2311] What is it called?

[2312] I'm not know.

[2313] I don't be stupid.

[2314] Just try to find it.

[2315] Kevin Bacon movie about Hollywood.

[2316] Yeah.

[2317] You should use two hands because I am, and I can do it quicker than you.

[2318] Yeah, but I have left hand on editing cameras.

[2319] Oh, you can stop that for a moment.

[2320] I can't find the name of it but it was a really good movie and it's the movie where Terry Hatcher looked the hottest Terry Hatcher was so ridiculously hot back then that a girl that I was dating actually got mad that I said she was hot which I always find to be The big picture?

[2321] Yes, the big picture It's a great movie it's a great movie about Hollywood about how it's all and they would say that strong interest in optioning I didn't I didn't mean it like that He's like, you're a director.

[2322] That's funny.

[2323] Mike R. Waiter is a director, too, aren't you, Mike?

[2324] And, like, when he applies for a job as a server at a restaurant, it's like the idea is that everybody is trying to, you know, make it in show business.

[2325] But Terry Hatcher was so hot in that movie.

[2326] And someone said, how hot was his chick?

[2327] I go from a 1 to 10, 10 being Terry Hatcher in that movie.

[2328] And what is it?

[2329] A big picture?

[2330] I go, that's about as hot as a human being has ever been.

[2331] And my girlfriend goes, you, you know.

[2332] I'm like, whoa.

[2333] You want to pretend you're hotter than Terry Hatcher?

[2334] Go right ahead.

[2335] You know?

[2336] So in the book, get mad at me. She actually got mad at me. It's like, wow, this one's not going to last.

[2337] The book is basically a, it's about my cousin and his illiterate text messages, but it goes above and beyond that.

[2338] Hardworking Kansas City rapper, Matt Reedville has a problem, and his name is Bennett.

[2339] Oh, God, who wrote that?

[2340] Yeah, I don't know.

[2341] And his name is Bennett.

[2342] You should have approval of all that shit, dude.

[2343] Yeah, I wish I did.

[2344] Those crackheads, they get a hold of it and confuse the shit out of everything.

[2345] It's hilarious.

[2346] Hey, that was quick.

[2347] There's a Twitter handle for it, too, right?

[2348] Is it text from Bennett?

[2349] Yeah, it's text from with no O. Are you still up on that?

[2350] The Twitter, the thing that is, it's big on Tumblr.

[2351] It's big on Tumblr.

[2352] Yeah, text from Bennett.

[2353] How come there's no O?

[2354] Not enough characters.

[2355] What?

[2356] Yeah, Twitter wouldn't allow it.

[2357] Hmm.

[2358] It's way bigger on...

[2359] I don't want to do a humble brag again.

[2360] It has a bigger presence on Tumblr because it's just pictures of the text messages.

[2361] I can't have a hard time filing here.

[2362] Oh, Tex S, the S from Bennett.

[2363] Oh, did I?

[2364] Fucked it up.

[2365] Text from Bennett, right?

[2366] Yeah, text from Bennett.

[2367] Oh, I'm following it.

[2368] Of course I am.

[2369] Yeah, these are funny, man. They're really funny.

[2370] And I didn't know that it was a real guy.

[2371] I thought you were just bullshitting.

[2372] First, I thought this Bennett guy was, like, a real guy.

[2373] And then I thought it was, oh, it's a character that someone created.

[2374] And then to hear you say that it's actually your cousin.

[2375] What if your cousin dies?

[2376] Oh, he will at some point.

[2377] It's like shit my dad says.

[2378] Like, you've got to keep your dad alive, you know, in order to keep that empire going.

[2379] Yeah, I think that it's going to be done now because he knows about it and only text messages me to ask if any girls have hit me up to have sex with him.

[2380] He wants to get gropeys.

[2381] That's hilarious.

[2382] It's probably done.

[2383] This book is kind of exiting that, and we're going to see if there's other, you know, platinorms I can put it on, but it's pretty much done.

[2384] Well, that's awesome that you did the first thing, all you.

[2385] That's going to be most likely the best representation of this is what you just did in this book.

[2386] So if anybody wants to buy it, it's Simon & Schuster, text from Bennett.

[2387] It's available on Amazon.

[2388] Do you have an audio version of it, an audible?

[2389] Oh, man. I'm hoping that.

[2390] we get to do that do you think that your your cousin would read it i'm that's that would be fingers crossed that would be the shit yes that would be so good yes i think it'd be i think it'd be bigger than than this i think it'd be hilarious it would be the best if you could actually just get them to read just only get him to read off all the text and then you do all the stuff in between and that would be awesome just give him a day's work sit down in a studio i would love that get him in xbox or something no you don't want to distract him no no no No, no, that's a gift.

[2391] Oh, as a gift?

[2392] No, you got to pay him.

[2393] He did a jujitsu class once.

[2394] Really?

[2395] Yeah.

[2396] How's a meth -ed -out 16 -year -old candle jujitsu?

[2397] He puked.

[2398] Yeah, boy.

[2399] That's the thing, man. Meth has.

[2400] They have zero cardio.

[2401] They just can't hang out.

[2402] None.

[2403] Even if they're on meth, it gets them.

[2404] Have you ever seen someone, like a guy who thinks he's in shape and then they go to a jitzu class and you watch?

[2405] Yeah, it happens all the time.

[2406] It's amazing, isn't it?

[2407] It happens all the time.

[2408] That's sometimes me, if I'm on the road for too long.

[2409] I'm like, oh, I'm back in jujitsu, and then I'd get out there, and my endurance is like, like, you know, 30 % what it was.

[2410] Yeah, it sucks.

[2411] Get yourself some true in tech sports, son.

[2412] Power you up.

[2413] I don't know.

[2414] What is that?

[2415] I'll give you some before we leave.

[2416] This podcast is basically over, but you're awesome.

[2417] You are too, man. And your videos are awesome.

[2418] I appreciate that.

[2419] I'm so happy that guys like you exist, that you've figured out a way to do this, that you've put it all out there.

[2420] You've got a great message.

[2421] You're a cool motherfucker and much success.

[2422] Much love and much respect, man. Thank you.

[2423] him follow him on twitter mac lethal on twitter and text r f r m bennett uh is uh the the information that uh you can uh you can get if you uh want to be uh want to read the text if you want to buy the book it's available on simon and chuster and whenever this tv show thing manifests itself we'll have you back man thank you man promote the fuck out of that as well all right thank you everybody for tuning in thanks to uh squarespace dot com use the code word joe and the number nine altogether Joe nine and save yourself 20 % for a limited time offer thanks to onit .com use the code rogan and save 10 % off any and all supplements we'll be back tomorrow with the great and talented duncan trussle and then thursday with the wonderful and beautiful david cho so we got a fat week you fucking freaks next week we got tom segura we're going to get on mat fulltron we're going to expose the world to some some new bad motherfuckers that are on the rise and much love much love to everybody thank you everybody came out to the ontario improv thank you everybody on twitter and facebook and all that shit and just keep pushing out that love folks oh oh push it out can i get can i do one more yeah can i do one more thing yes i have a q and a at 430 at some fucking bookstore in l .a and i've got to tell people and i have a show tonight at whiskey a go -go what nice madness tonight tonight what time uh probably like Nine, nine.

[2424] We might go.

[2425] I might go.

[2426] I might go, man. Let me find out what the fuck I have to do tonight.

[2427] God damn it.

[2428] Shit just got crazy.

[2429] I just booked the Ontario improv.

[2430] I'm starting to do one of the things that happened with doing this TV show.

[2431] I haven't been doing as much stand -up as I should.

[2432] And I had one rusty set this weekend, Saturday night, late show.

[2433] Book soup.

[2434] Sorry.

[2435] Book soup is what the club is?

[2436] Yeah, no, that's the bookstore.

[2437] Where's it at?

[2438] It's, where's it at, Bradley?

[2439] Hold on.

[2440] I'll find out.

[2441] Book Soup, L .A. It's coming.

[2442] Yeah, it's Book Soup.

[2443] I'm going there right now doing a Q &A and signing books.

[2444] It's on 8818 -1 -8 Sunset Boulevard, West Hollywood, California.

[2445] And the number's 3109 -3110 if you want to call them and say nice to -rate me. I don't know, what the fuck you're going to do.

[2446] So anyway, the Ontario Improv, I just booked it because I'm trying to do way more stand -up now.

[2447] I had a great fucking time in Brea.

[2448] Every show except the late show Saturday night was a little slippery.

[2449] So if you went to that show, my apologies.

[2450] So I'm trying about a bunch of new shit and sometimes it gets tangled up.

[2451] But I just booked Ontario Improv, October 4th, 5th, and 6th for the weekend.

[2452] Tommy Suger is going to be with me on the 4th and the 5th, and then the 6th.

[2453] I don't know who I'm going to have a book.

[2454] So it's pretty last minute.

[2455] So Ontario Improv, it's all on my Twitter, which is Joe Rogan.

[2456] And we'll see you guys tomorrow with Duncan Truzzle.

[2457] That's it.

[2458] A big E and a hug and a kiss to y 'all.

[2459] Thank you.