68 - Q&T&A

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[15] Goodbye.

[16] Birthday.

[17] It's your birthday week.

[18] It's your birthday month.

[19] I love that we're traveling on my birthday.

[20] I know.

[21] that's the that's what we give up for this podcast what if i get the whole plane to sing happy birthday to you i will ache with this podcast you never talk to you again you know that's my sensitivity i cannot in a restaurant have anyone sing you happy birthday right no okay okay okay i didn't think so but i couldn't remember if it was like funny or horrifying for you well a plane would be bad because then you just have to sit there like a restaurant like what'd you say i think it'd be the best because it's them expected.

[22] Well, also, people hate your guts.

[23] It's like in a restaurant you can join in or not, but in a plane, then you're just trapped with fake fun.

[24] But, like, remember when we were at that restaurant in Portland, the turkey restaurant, and someone sang happy birthday and it was so fun.

[25] Oh, yeah.

[26] I always sing along.

[27] Do you sing along?

[28] Always.

[29] Always.

[30] It's, like, not, I mean, like, people I don't know.

[31] It's the most fun.

[32] It is.

[33] Like, you're so happy for them.

[34] Yes.

[35] They have friends or have loved one.

[36] That they're celebrating.

[37] that this is a good thing we're all in some way glad you're here or then it's just like a couple on a first date you're like one of them make it up to seem fun but it's their birthday and tell them or like is they that pathetic that they have to make up birthdays to be fun or is it a girlfriend who just got dumped and her friends with her and she's like you know what you deserve a candle i'm gonna fucking i'm gonna make you laugh i'm gonna get you free hot fudge that's how much i love you hey this is my favorite murder we started we're the true crime podcast that That's the question.

[38] What if we talk about other stuff?

[39] And also, that's the question.

[40] Mispronounce things in a weird way.

[41] It sounds like I'm a...

[42] That's her tagline.

[43] Hobo.

[44] I said it.

[45] This is the first, this is the first podcast episode slash transmission from the podcast nook of my new apartment.

[46] It's a loft.

[47] There's wrestling memorabilia everywhere because we watch wrestling name this place.

[48] we watch murder.

[49] That's what the We Watch Murder.

[50] That's what the Loft is called?

[51] Yeah.

[52] That's awesome.

[53] Because they record here.

[54] They get one wall of murder, of podcasting.

[55] Nope.

[56] Where am I?

[57] Wrestling memorabilia.

[58] And we get one and a half, very filled out, very full of gifts, murderino gifts to us.

[59] Yes.

[60] One of which we just got, and I'm so in love with, it's these like plush pillows, one for each of us.

[61] This girl got custom.

[62] fabric of squirrels and bunnies and foresty stuff and it's adorable but there's also murder scenes and like it's cartoon murder scenes and skulls and bones and like buried bodies yeah and strips of material let's say stay out of the forest it looks like you know police do not cross the line but it says stay out of the forest and they're amazing let's get her very cute shout out it's called uh she her name is maria and it's etzi .com and her name is kukk Kukalamaka.

[63] Kukalamakala?

[64] What's that?

[65] I don't know.

[66] You're right.

[67] I was just throwing it out there.

[68] That's right.

[69] Huh.

[70] It's K -O -O -K -L -A.

[71] M -A -M -A -K -A.

[72] I hope she's selling these because they're fucking incredible.

[73] And they're like, they're like legit.

[74] Well, and also they're on this for all the other people who have given us lovely gifts.

[75] Just know they're here.

[76] They're all around us right now.

[77] Somebody tweeted at me the other way the other day.

[78] Did your lava ball necklace make it back from the Fox Theater?

[79] which was like first the first leg of the tour way long ago and I would like to report to that person yes of course it did um it's not it's not in this loft it's somewhere in my kitchen but we all the stuff people give us we ship back and then we like sit in it it's gonna be once it's all up and I've finally dealt with it it's gonna be this place is going to be a fucking hoarder's nightmare of murder so good um so thanks for those thank you lovely gifts uh I don't Oh, so now we have to talk about casting Jean -Bene.

[80] Because you guys were like, I thought you were going to...

[81] Yeah.

[82] So here's what...

[83] I'll just do the quick version of the...

[84] What happened.

[85] We decide what we're going to do is do our first ever live watching podcast recording where together George and I watch casting Jean -Benei and comment on it as it goes and basically have that kind of experience.

[86] Hilarity ensues.

[87] Wouldn't that be hilarious and fun and just fascinating?

[88] Yeah.

[89] Turns out no. Um, I would say we got, well, it turned out that casting John Bonnet was not the thing we thought it was.

[90] It was a different thing.

[91] I would personally say it was a study on the, uh, strange personalities and behavior of actors.

[92] Yeah, that's close.

[93] There was a lot of, um, the desperation of the, of show business.

[94] There were a lot of other things happening besides just the story of Jean -Beney Ramsey's murder.

[95] Then maybe this will finally be the thing.

[96] that catapults me much like my favorite murder wasn't when we started it because we never uh yeah and it was a lot of opinions of people that i didn't care about their opinions it's their opinions seemed super made up yeah and as we all know no one likes to look in the mirror right so i was sitting there going you were fucking pissed lady shut your mouth you don't know anything about and then i was like oh damn it um so it was not i think we got to got 15, 20 minutes in and we just like looked at Stephen.

[97] We're like, turn it off.

[98] This is not.

[99] Because I couldn't, it wasn't even like I could riff about it.

[100] It was too weird.

[101] Lots of the things that were happening were visual.

[102] Yeah.

[103] Or feel like just bad vibes.

[104] And we were basically sitting there kind of shitting on normal people who are tricked into being in this documentary.

[105] I think in the beginning when we didn't realize what it was, we were like, this is funny and it's good.

[106] And like we were being really funny and riffy.

[107] And then it got kind of sad.

[108] And then we just, I realized we had both been sitting there in silence for five minutes.

[109] Yeah.

[110] And I was like, this is a, what do we do for this week's episode?

[111] Because this isn't fucking it.

[112] And so we put up a live, one of our favorite live episodes.

[113] One of our favorites that people had been asking for too.

[114] And we were going to put out anyways.

[115] We've built in a security system so that we can take artistic chances.

[116] But that was not one we should have ever.

[117] This week is one we're going to take and I feel like it's going to go well.

[118] This is a good one.

[119] Stephen, was this your idea?

[120] The Q &A episode?

[121] Yes.

[122] I think it was we all like...

[123] Was it Georgia?

[124] I'm sorry.

[125] No, no, no. It was...

[126] Such a brat.

[127] It was dang.

[128] I did it.

[129] The look on your face when I just looked over you right now, you were just like, ooh.

[130] I hate my...

[131] It was like, I hate myself.

[132] Why do I?

[133] Just let everyone have it.

[134] We can all enjoy it.

[135] And yet I...

[136] You don't think I do that all day long.

[137] That's all anyone.

[138] If you think of good ideas, you want credit for it.

[139] Such a fucking know it all.

[140] Sorry.

[141] It was George's idea.

[142] Thank you, Stephen's cheeks are all red, and now he feels a deep shame for something he had nothing to do.

[143] I stole it.

[144] Did you steal it?

[145] No, I, Stephen.

[146] No, you're good.

[147] Thank you.

[148] Steven, let her off the hook.

[149] Oh, I was just going to say, yeah, Q &A.

[150] It's going to be good.

[151] You are correct in your A. The Q is, never mind, go on.

[152] Well, I was just going to say, did you have something to say about John Bonnet?

[153] Look like you were going to pick up the mic.

[154] Oh, I was going to say, we ended up watching like 45 minutes of it.

[155] Oh, my God.

[156] Wow.

[157] So if you want to pay $1 ,000 to listen, to that give it to charity we don't need it but you can't also you know you're not allowed to you won't tell you what charity it is you're such a marketer you're such a like how do we take this thing and turn it into and i love it i'm a no it all and i'm a fucking marketer i'm a no at all i'm a non -marketer so pick one i mean there's all these lanes we can be in but here's the thing know it all's it's because we have experience being right and so it's you know what i mean you know why it's because we actually know it all.

[158] Everything.

[159] I mean, if there's anything, this podcast has proven is that we know everything.

[160] We know everything.

[161] Down to.

[162] A science.

[163] Someone tweeted and said, please make sure people understand that it is important to give, like, resuscitation.

[164] And, like, it was something where it was a person who had a lot of experience who was just like, you've basically told people they don't have to give rest.

[165] Oh, my God.

[166] Yeah.

[167] artificial respiration or whatever any of that is.

[168] She was like, there's a thing on the wall now when you just pull it up.

[169] Don't worry about it.

[170] You can pull the thing off the wall and there's a woman like, please no, that's not true at all.

[171] There's a blowhorn on the wall and if you just ram it in their face and blowhorn in their face, they're fine.

[172] You don't have to give CPR.

[173] You don't have to know CPR anymore.

[174] Okay, so, but something came out of the Jean -Beney episode.

[175] Yes, that's right, because we did take the time at the beginning to reveal each other's tramp stamps to each other which we promised yes thank god karen remembered that yeah so so we're actually going to play that back we're going to pretend we're not going to recreate it yeah so we're going to play you our reveal that we promised you of our tramp stamps go quickly tell everyone how and why and where and under what conditions you got your tramp stamp go oh yeah um i had my heart broken really bad for like the first big time ever I was like 19 and it was like ripped from my fucking chest and I just needed a distraction so badly I was so sad that I was just like I'm getting a fucking tattoo so I had my friend perfect solution you know what I mean I was just like I need something else to fucking focus on so I had my friend who had a bunch of tattoos take me to the tattoo artist in an orange county then he went to who ended up sucking and I got hearts on both my like upper flanks what do you use the word flank which is great and perfect if you can see that in your mind absolutely so it's two red hearts with a black little outline on them they're cute yeah it's almost like you like you accessorized yourself permanently yeah yeah yeah i don't mind them and i never see them i forget they're there and it totally worked it totally distracted me yeah that's great guys get a tattoo if you're sad yeah it's perfect what about you uh i just have a salmon that's I just have a picture of a salmon.

[176] Is it like a filet of salmon on a plate with like some parsley on it?

[177] It's some delicious brazed salmon.

[178] It's actually looks exactly like the sticker on the back of a fisherman's truck cab.

[179] You know, those, it's like, oh, here, I like fishing these specific kind of fish.

[180] It's based on that picture.

[181] Is it color or is it?

[182] Okay.

[183] Why did you get that?

[184] Alcoholism.

[185] And we...

[186] Why is salmon?

[187] I've told the story before, but the original plan was we were going to get public.

[188] Hogue Mahone tattooed on our asses.

[189] It was me and my two other alcoholic friends.

[190] What's that?

[191] Or I mean party friends.

[192] That's Gaelic for Kiss My Ass.

[193] So we thought we were drunk.

[194] We thought it would be very funny to get that tattooed on our ass.

[195] So we went to the tattoo parlor on sunset.

[196] That's not there anymore.

[197] And when we told the guy that was a plan, he refused to do it.

[198] He said it would look terrible.

[199] The words would have to be too big.

[200] Thank fucking God for him.

[201] But then my friends who also already had tattoos had backup like plan B's immediately right and I was just standing there still totally drunk and like I don't know and so I did like a thing that I thought would be kind of funny or like I can't really explain it it's just the perfect symbol of how I did everything in the 90s it's almost like a it's a fuck it tattoo yeah it's a who fucking cares about life tattoo it's a permanent fuck it which is what's stupid about it well it's on your back who sees it nobody and not me I mean, when you're walking away.

[202] Not me. Not me. I love the fact that you hate fish.

[203] Yeah, I can't eat it.

[204] You can't eat fish.

[205] Can't eat it?

[206] All right.

[207] Stephen, look away.

[208] We're going to show each other our trams.

[209] Karen, show me your salmon.

[210] It's not going to be good.

[211] Your salmon tail.

[212] It's not a whale tail.

[213] Let's see.

[214] Oh, wow.

[215] It's actually done really well.

[216] Is it?

[217] It's really light, too.

[218] Yes.

[219] It's like a shade.

[220] It's well shaded.

[221] I was expecting like a cartoon outline of it.

[222] Oh, no. No, no. It's actually done really well.

[223] Well, it's not as big as I thought it would be.

[224] He's wearing glasses.

[225] Yeah, he's got a cigar in his mouth.

[226] For me, it feels humongous, like the size of a palm of my hand.

[227] It's not, and honestly, and I'm not just, you don't need to do this, but if you wanted to get that removed, I bet it would take just a few sessions.

[228] I bet it would because it's not that.

[229] It just looks almost like veins, like strangely placed veins right now.

[230] It's really light.

[231] Okay, let's see yours.

[232] Mine isn't, and if I ever want to get removed, I just have to cut my flanks off.

[233] Oh.

[234] At least you have flanks.

[235] Yeah.

[236] about mud flaps?

[237] Oh, America.

[238] I wish you could see what I'm seeing right now.

[239] That's cute, right?

[240] It's such a 19 -year -old Georgia move.

[241] It's so good.

[242] I mean, it looks like two Mrs. Grossman stickers on either side of the above of your butt cheeks.

[243] That's so funny.

[244] Fuck it, man. Just kind of classic.

[245] Yeah, fuck it.

[246] Adrian, thank you for breaking my heart.

[247] Thank you for having a girlfriend the whole time you were dating me. Oh, Adrian.

[248] Thank you for ghosting me. Adrienne, what did you think was going to happen?

[249] And also, do you still feel that now, that human impact hangover that you left?

[250] Yeah.

[251] Do you feel it?

[252] We're friends on Facebook.

[253] I know.

[254] That's why I can't be on Facebook.

[255] I'm so much better than him.

[256] Now, I won.

[257] And you got the hearts to prove it.

[258] And I got the fucking hearts to prove it.

[259] The broken hearts and the butt hearts, the heart of your butt, you know?

[260] Yeah.

[261] So that's tattoo.

[262] Okay, we just had to, we had to get that cleared up.

[263] before we could give our full attention.

[264] We can't keep talking about it and then not do it.

[265] That's exactly right.

[266] Remember?

[267] Remember?

[268] And then, so something did come out.

[269] Good of.

[270] Yeah, we learned a little more about each other.

[271] We're just building that bridge of love.

[272] If you had to get another tattoo, what would it be?

[273] Your face?

[274] Next to the salmon.

[275] On the salmon.

[276] You're the salmon's birth mark, and it's all fate.

[277] it's like God's close up look God's own salmon I mean I feel like obligated to get a stay sexy don't get murdered tattoo you do I do but then what if it all goes to shit and I'm like reminded every day but like this ended in a fire well you'll be reminded every day anyway so you might as well like make it look like you have some sort of sense of humor about it that's true you can't and then if I get stay sexy don't get murder when it all goes to shit I can write I didn't stay sexy don't get murdered at the top of it they're all so they're so adjustable tattoos There's nothing more flexible than a tattoo.

[278] Oh, and then, oh, I wanted to read a corrections corner email.

[279] Yeah.

[280] Guess what I was wrong about stuff.

[281] This is Georgia, by the way.

[282] This is from, how do you say that name?

[283] Let's see.

[284] Shaloa?

[285] It's got to be better than that.

[286] Shiloh.

[287] Shit.

[288] You're right.

[289] How come I can't put letters and they're correct?

[290] Because you panic.

[291] I have.

[292] panic dyslexia is that thing?

[293] Don't you think?

[294] Like the second you look at it and it's not immediately recognizable, you're like, you're going to get it wrong.

[295] And then you don't let yourself.

[296] I also don't think that the, I do want to say that the name Chavon, the spelling is not fair.

[297] I think I've said that before.

[298] Anyways, you, the Irish name Chavon?

[299] Yeah.

[300] Have you said it's in spelling?

[301] It looks like Sayobon.

[302] It's not fair.

[303] It's insanity.

[304] But that's like a Gaelic.

[305] That's like a whole different language.

[306] As someone who can't read things, it's not fair.

[307] Yeah, that one's not fair.

[308] First of all, I wanted to thank you for sharing My Trice's tragic story.

[309] That's a couple episode back.

[310] That's My Trice Richardson.

[311] It's not great, but a horrible story.

[312] That's important.

[313] Okay, anyways, I think it's incredibly important for the public to be aware of such mishaps and encouraged law enforcement entities to learn from these tragedies.

[314] Both of the agencies mentioned in your story have been around for a long time and have both wonderful triumphs and shameful pieces to their history.

[315] My correction is to bring awareness that the LAPD and the L .A. County Sheriff's Department are not the same thing.

[316] Hi.

[317] Both are two enormous departments within the county of Los Angeles, and lots of people think that they are synonyms for each other.

[318] However, when referring to specific cases, especially when there was neglect or misuse of powers, it's important to hold the correct agency accountable.

[319] In your retelling of the story, you actually referred to both.

[320] However, this was entirely the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department case.

[321] LAPD was not involved whatsoever.

[322] Thank you, Stephen, for taking the time to read this.

[323] I only made the correction because I know that you have such a large audience and don't think that incorrect information, especially in such a turbulent social and political climate towards law enforcement should be perpetuated.

[324] True.

[325] A small additional correction, a law enforcement officer is never trained to shoot someone simply to injure them.

[326] For instance, hit them in the shoulder or the leg, said Georgia.

[327] He didn't write that.

[328] Or she didn't write that.

[329] I've said that.

[330] There are two, There are other tools at their disposal for less than lethal force, and the firearms only meant for one purpose.

[331] Wow.

[332] Interesting.

[333] If I can ever be of any help on any of these topics, please feel free to reach out.

[334] I think we needed this person in an entire episode.

[335] Yes, for sure.

[336] I am a forensic psychologist with a research background and police psychology, and I also have law enforcement experience.

[337] Keep up the amazing work, ladies.

[338] I love all that you do.

[339] Shiloh.

[340] Wow.

[341] Thank you so much for that.

[342] email.

[343] I mean, listen.

[344] You know what's embarrassing to me about that email is I have, as I've mentioned several times, a lot of relatives in the San Francisco Police Department.

[345] Right.

[346] But I also have had relatives that are sheriffs.

[347] So I feel like if anyone should have known that very big difference, I should have at least in some way.

[348] Should be the comedy writer?

[349] No. Why would you know that?

[350] I don't know.

[351] I just feel like that's something I kind of know back in the back of my mind.

[352] But I think it's because they were they do it in different areas so like if you were to tell me they were synonymous I would have been like oh yeah that makes sense to me that was a perfect email of telling us why we were wrong and also information that we do really need to know yeah I'm so happy to get those in the same way that when we were told that you don't say prostitute you say sex worker we have just completely tried never to do that again and I fucking correct people all the time in it in the most cocky way actually dad I corrected my dad the other way don't you feel like there's nothing better there's nothing more quickly that you do that with new information than turn around and use it on somebody else like that's my favorite thing oh the second i'm in it the second somebody says anything about the sheriff and the lapedia i'm going i'm sorry excuse me i don't mean to interrupt your dinner those are two different entities they're not synonymous and do i use that word um and it's because we know everything yes even even until we we learn it and then from there on.

[353] But then, yeah, but then we still know it.

[354] And time is a flat circle.

[355] So last week when we played our live episode from Indianapolis, is that right?

[356] And Karen's fucking fabulous murder, what was her name?

[357] Bell Gunniss.

[358] Bell Gunniss had a fucking thing in the newspaper asking for her husband that she was going to murder.

[359] And it said at the end, triflers need not apply.

[360] And we said to you guys at this show, that's our next shirt.

[361] And guess what, it is?

[362] Yep.

[363] Let's do Birthday Corner.

[364] Oh, go to My Favorite Murder Shirts .com.

[365] I'm all over the place.

[366] I love it.

[367] Karen, when this comes out, you know, God willing, when this comes out.

[368] I could be dead soon, that's true.

[369] I was thinking more that the entire world will implode and there won't be a second.

[370] In two days, no way.

[371] And the grid off the grid, the grid will be down.

[372] That's going to take at least four more months.

[373] I'd say four days.

[374] So when this comes out on Thursday, we have, let's see, two days.

[375] Two days.

[376] We can make it in two days.

[377] Friday, we're fucked.

[378] But on Thursday, happy birthday.

[379] Thank you kindly.

[380] I'm so excited for you.

[381] We're going to be on tour.

[382] Yep.

[383] It's a dream birthday.

[384] I get to be in a hotel room, which I love.

[385] I get to go do shows for our fans, which is the most fun, the biggest, like, ego boost the most, best way to make a living.

[386] Oh, I thought you were being sarcastic about the hotel room.

[387] No, I could live in hotel rooms.

[388] There's nothing I love more.

[389] I thought you were going to get like real dark and deep of like, I'm going to be alone.

[390] No. Okay, you're happy.

[391] I'm going to be like, I'm going to be alone.

[392] I was like, Vince and I will take you to dinner.

[393] I was like, how much do you want to be the couple that's like?

[394] No. You just make out the whole time.

[395] Anyway, you guys, what TV shows do you like?

[396] I wish you had a show on your birthday.

[397] That would be so fun.

[398] Just travel.

[399] The best part about touring.

[400] I bring you a donut on stage on Friday at the D .C. show?

[401] Whichever one's first.

[402] Or do you not want a whole audience singing happy birthday to you?

[403] You probably do.

[404] Oh, I absolutely demand it.

[405] Okay, great.

[406] Stephen, what were you going to say?

[407] Happy birthday?

[408] Yeah, just happy birthday.

[409] Oh, thank you, Stephen.

[410] I'm pretty excited.

[411] I mean, at my age, you stop caring about birthdays.

[412] And I know that people say that.

[413] It's a real mom thing to say while you threw a dish towel over your shoulder.

[414] But you really just, you know.

[415] I think at 23, you stop.

[416] caring about birthdays unless you're really just unless you're really looking for something yeah really searching yeah yeah uh well that got dark yeah yeah hey let's get questions asked at us okay great that was our new idea of questions my my my it's a Q &A episode everybody get ready did you make any kind of keyboard music for the Q &A episode?

[417] I got two days.

[418] Yes, do you think you lay in like keyboard exciting music?

[419] Well, I just saw Guy Brannum, so I'm thinking about, you know, talk show, game show, so I got a...

[420] Okay, let's pause right here for Stephen to put his music in.

[421] Q &A music.

[422] Oh my God, Stephen, that was amazing.

[423] It's all teed up now.

[424] What if it's just a baby screaming?

[425] Just the Jeopardy theme.

[426] Oh, that's really good.

[427] With a baby screaming over it.

[428] That's perfect.

[429] So here's some stats.

[430] 400 emails in 3 .5 days.

[431] Wow.

[432] And yeah, that's the only stat, I guess.

[433] And the other stat is, is that the only stat words?

[434] So the first question I thought would be the most interesting is who thought of the name my favorite murder and what were the, oh, Jessica asked this.

[435] And what were the other name alternatives?

[436] Oh, never any other alternative.

[437] It came out real fast.

[438] From how I remember it, I was, I believe we were on the phone.

[439] No. We were, I thought we were at Cafe 101 in a booth.

[440] Well, that's very possible.

[441] You mean at our, like, that four hour?

[442] One of our, I think it was the one where I finally was like, can we make this a podcast?

[443] And I was like, meet me here.

[444] We're doing this.

[445] Okay.

[446] And then we like slowly came up with the idea.

[447] Not slowly.

[448] I think it was like pretty rapid.

[449] It was pretty fast.

[450] And then I think I went to pee and came back and you were like, what about this?

[451] Yeah.

[452] And then I was like, yes.

[453] And that was it.

[454] Yeah.

[455] There was never any.

[456] I remember the notebook I brought and I recently went to find the page of like notes I took and like what we could do.

[457] And there wasn't any because it was just like, okay, let's do that.

[458] Yes.

[459] I just remember you came out with the, it was like it was your idea to do it.

[460] And then it was you brought the hometown murder idea.

[461] so it was almost like it just went it was like watching something lay out in front of you where you're just like oh yeah this um i remember i remember pitching that but i for some reason i remember being on the phone but then i also remember absolutely could have been i mean who no really i would never argue it but i do remember that night going home and because i was i think i said verbally to you what if we'd had like a a kind of a dark true detective style theme and then i went home just to I just sat in my TV room and did what is now the actual theme one one take it was a one take kind of example it was supposed to be an example that's why the sound is so bad on it I wonder we still have the text I still have the um I still have the recording you sent me because it's in all the texts on on your iPhone yeah but I just want it's got to be in there somewhere of like how's a song and I think I was like great let's do it yeah think you recorded it after we recorded our first episode yes that's right because the first one didn't have anything right I don't no I think the first one we just needed to put it opening yeah all right is this interesting I don't know are you interested I'm interested I guess I am this is fun and do you know what I love talking about ourselves totally you know what this podcast is talking about ourselves totally yeah um if if you switch bodies freaky this is from Melissa yeah if you switched bodies freaky freaky Friday style for one day what would you do as the other person I would touch my big boobs.

[462] I'm not kidding.

[463] I'm sorry I'm touching your boobs.

[464] I just immediately was like, I'd have big boobs.

[465] I would start off with your most insane outfit, like your most, your most extreme vintage dress.

[466] I know which one it is.

[467] Pre -breakfast?

[468] And I would change my clothes 25 times that day.

[469] Because I have so many clothes.

[470] Because you have so many outfits and you have so many combinations and Georgia's this thing I call I have one shirt I call it my meeting shirt and every time we George and I have a meeting together I show up in the same shirt Georgia a lot of meetings lately too so it's kind of been like it's pretty hilarious and I'm like I am like what am I going to wing yep and I'm like should I leave now I'm already 50 minutes late but then Georgia rolls up in clothes that I'm like I remember people wearing that in 1982 like these outfits that are so rad and perfect yeah so I would do out I have a shopping addiction.

[471] It's a problem.

[472] No, but I did show up to therapy today.

[473] And, like, my favorite, like, sweater and my therapist almost started crying because she was like, I had that when I was in elementary school.

[474] You have so many clothes that I had in elementary school.

[475] It's hilarious.

[476] That means a lot to me. I love dressing.

[477] I love outfits.

[478] This is what happens when all you have is hand -me -downs when you're a kid from, like, boys, like your older cousin, boy cousins.

[479] You become a shopaholic and then just have all the clothes.

[480] Yeah.

[481] And the cutest.

[482] dresses.

[483] Thank you.

[484] I touch my boobs.

[485] Still, I would, oh, you know what I would do too?

[486] I would have cleavage.

[487] I'd learn what it was like for someone to talk at my boobs.

[488] You know how like girls are like he just stared right on my boobs and he's like, that's never happened to me. I think when you have big boobs, well, it just depends on the kind of person you are, but I've been the person that's like, you know, these are not the droids you're looking for.

[489] I'm sorry to objectify you.

[490] No, And I'm not, I'm sorry if I make me uncomfortable.

[491] It's okay.

[492] I'm just, I've had like, most basically an A cup my entire life.

[493] I've always wanted to be the kind of girl that like, oh, it's a special party.

[494] I'm going to put on, I'm going to put a pushup bra on and put on like this dress.

[495] But my boobs, like in that scenario, it looks rated X. It's like it looks, it looks like it looks like it's not for public consumption.

[496] I also have like a sadness around showing too much skin where it's like.

[497] like, why do I have to do this in society?

[498] Like, I definitely, when I'll try to wear a low -cut shirt, I get sad.

[499] Yeah.

[500] You know what I mean?

[501] Like, you feel like you feel like you have to.

[502] Yeah, like I feel objectified.

[503] Like, I'm doing to you right now.

[504] Congratulations.

[505] It's fun when your friend does it, though.

[506] Okay.

[507] It is, right?

[508] It's a compliment.

[509] So this is a question that we got from a lot of people.

[510] Oh.

[511] But I had a question about it because isn't the first episode technically your favorite murders?

[512] John Bona and the Sacramento's East Area rapist.

[513] Oh.

[514] Are those technically you're my favorite murders?

[515] We can ask that a lot when it's like, what is your favorite murder?

[516] And I just don't think there's an answer.

[517] No. So then my question is, has that changed since you've started doing this podcast, has like, has like your, what you would consider your favorites?

[518] Has it changed it all since you started?

[519] I would say it has changed because, um, it's this, it's the murder story, the best, thing that lays out as a story is become my favorite because when it's like a person that's say it's just like they killed a bunch of people in one day at the end like it's hard to make that have legs or be you know like you have to do a bunch of other research to pull that out in any way like there's a lot of murders people are like I wish you would do this that we just can't because there's not it's just this sad short story and there's no conclusion to it or like I've we've talked about this a couple times and there's been a couple people that tweeted but the Georgia Moses story who is the other little 12 year old girl who was murdered in my hometown who is black and so she was basically the like the it's the opposite of polyclass where polyclass it was a national news story and nobody's ever heard of Georgia Moses and when I went I told people I would do that story and when I went to research it every single part of it is so depressing she was so abandoned and not taken care of and the you know not supported in any way and no one helped her.

[520] No adults in her life seemed to help her.

[521] She was such a, it's just a sad a story that like I, you know, it's that kind of thing where then I just, I kind of avoid it because it's like, how do I present this in a way that doesn't want to make you just cry at the end?

[522] Yeah.

[523] I think the word favorite is so, I just, I love, I love the stories and the mysteries and the horrific circumstances behind it.

[524] in a way that means I fucking hate it so much that it makes me angry.

[525] So that's what you, I mean, it's just so hard to be like, Jean Bonnet is my favorite.

[526] Jean Bonnet is really interesting to me because I think that it's so diabolical and insane.

[527] And then I just, I don't know.

[528] There's no. There's too many categories, I think, to really pick one into also.

[529] I've answered that question differently every time we've been asked it.

[530] Me too.

[531] And then we get asked like, what was your first one that you were interested in?

[532] For me, it changes all the time.

[533] We're like, I'll remember a new one and be like, oh, yeah, I love.

[534] love that.

[535] I just remember this morning that when I was like 13, Jane's Addiction was my favorite band in the world.

[536] And I just remembered they had a song called Ted Just Admit it.

[537] That was about Ted Bundy, which made me look who the fuck is Ted Bundy and made me look into it.

[538] And it's just like, you just, what was your first?

[539] What was, I don't know, what's your favorite?

[540] Yeah, it's hard to remember those.

[541] Like, everybody has a million defining moments or a million like it.

[542] I mean, like, mine isn't even really a murder.

[543] I just remember how excited I got when I went to check out the Amityville horror book at my grammar school library and sister Rita Rose who was the oldest nun in the game still wearing a habit and she had like gnarled old fingers she looked like a character from a Stephen King novel oh my god and I went to check that book out and she was so angry at me but I was like it's in the school library like it's not my fault and I also checked it out multiple times but that was like a god I wonder if someone went to that school right now and found that book and Karen Killed Gareff's little name.

[544] I took a photo of it.

[545] Someone please go do that.

[546] But I mean, you know, being that it's my birthday, we'll just say, it was fucking over 30 years ago.

[547] Isn't that insane?

[548] It was so long ago.

[549] I bet it's still there.

[550] They don't rip those card catalog, dewy decimal shit out of the books.

[551] I wonder.

[552] Let's defacing it.

[553] I can get my friend Katie to go look because she works there.

[554] Katie.

[555] Do it.

[556] Go do it.

[557] What was the question?

[558] I think we're just done.

[559] That was great.

[560] You edit that.

[561] I'm not kidding.

[562] It was great.

[563] Mary, oh, sorry, Mary E -E -E -E -S, what's the best, worst reaction that you've gotten from somebody who doesn't share your love of true crime?

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[597] Goodbye.

[598] Well, I mean, there are those social media messages we get where it's like, woman of Satan, I'll kill you, or things like that, that we just immediately delete and report and don't pay attention to.

[599] what I did, which I know is a mistake, but it ended up making me feel really good, is I read the comments on a thing.

[600] We were in, we were on, the Washington Post, we had an interview, and which was so incredible on this past weekend, and it was amazing, and it's like legit, and my mom went, wapo, exclamation mark, and when I told her about it.

[601] And I started reading the comments, and there were all these people of like, how dare they, this and that?

[602] And every single one was was commented on by a fucking murderino very eloquently telling them why they were incorrect and why it was actually good and not in a dick way and it was just like we don't need we don't need to respond to those things because everyone's everyone's are there are bullies for us right and also the people that that stance of like the how dare you stance do you write to keith Morrison and say how dare you for reporting the crimes the murders that you do in a salacious way on 2020 or what I mean like it's are you bringing this to other people's doors I bet they're not I bet they are Keith call us let us know can you come hang out with us you're the only one that could answer that question Scotty asks how much money would you have to be paid to hitchhike across the country is that Scotty Landis I bet it is I think it was no Scottie's like because I want to take you on a hitchhiking and I want to he's a producer he's like that's my new show the new hitchhiking show where it shows real time how killed we get and scotty doesn't intervene when we're actually getting killed he just keeps smiling like great this is going to be a hit TV show uh I would I don't need money worked are we together I don't need money I think you can set the terms of it oh no you have to be alone and it has to be tonight no no we leave tonight and we have to do it alone no no so then, but the, well, the monetary answer then would be, I would, at minimum six million dollars.

[603] Oh, I was going to say a million.

[604] God, I'm cheap.

[605] I'm a cheap kill.

[606] Yeah, you got to get that money up there.

[607] What if, Karen, you had to say, you had to accept every ride that stopped.

[608] Like, you couldn't be like, no, pass.

[609] Well, then money would matter because I would definitely be dead.

[610] I mean, right?

[611] Like, oh my God.

[612] What?

[613] But also, I don't think people pick up hitchhikers anymore.

[614] No, I think.

[615] Well, but if you're a girl, I think it's different.

[616] That's true.

[617] But.

[618] If you're murderable.

[619] That's different.

[620] I mean, I think me and my big tits are pretty murderable.

[621] And I would definitely be wearing a V -neck t -shirt.

[622] Six million.

[623] Six million for care and a million for me because I have eight cuts.

[624] I'm cheaper.

[625] Also, I just hate the idea of having to get into other people's cars.

[626] Like, you know, when you get, like, at festivals you get picked up by some kid, it's his car and he's got weird shit hanging from the rearview mirror and stuff.

[627] Like, it's not like that's a dream even when they don't want to kill you.

[628] much less than when you're also feeling like you're in danger.

[629] I had an Uber the other day that it smelled like he had put his infected feet on every surface of the Uber on purpose.

[630] Did I already tell you this?

[631] No. On purpose that he had like singing as fucking nursery rhyme touched every, oh, anyways.

[632] But worse than that for me was why I kind of stopped taking Ubers after a while is because the cologne or whatever was happening, they were using either an air freshener or it was cologne but i would roll the windows and i'd be like the middle of the night and they'd be like are you are you hot what's do you need me to turn on the air conditioner and just be like i can't breathe stop it you and your axe body spray are bumming me out i don't it's too much it's a lot okay did we answer thanks scotty lantis for playing ball um since starting my favorite murder has anyone who's oh this is from debor i keep forgetting to put the names whatever uh since starting i'm kidding i'm kidding since starting my favorite murder has anyone who has been in your life for a long time told you a story that you never would have known if it wasn't for the podcast everyone for sure yeah everyone and or they mentioned it and now they tell you more details or they remember another one and they're like oh yeah yes definitely that's definitely happened and they they don't they're it's not weird when you ask them for more details right well but the best example is my cousin uh my cousins texting me on uh was it thanksgiving or christmas to tell me that my cousin marty who now a retired San Francisco policeman was there and found the fingerprint that broke the the Nightstocker case.

[633] And like they did they put it together over there because my cousins listen.

[634] Why would they ever tell you that?

[635] Yes.

[636] And he was like, I was like, I was yelling at him because I was like, how could you not?

[637] And he was like, I don't think anybody ever wants to talk about that.

[638] Like you're going to bring that up with your random cousin that you see once every year.

[639] Hey, you know what I did?

[640] I have, I just remember.

[641] I had saved the other day, like two weekends ago, I was with my family having, lunch and because of the, you know, we were talking about the podcast and my uncle who I see once every three years or something was like, oh yeah, I rented out my apartment to a mass murderer.

[642] And I was like, I'm sorry.

[643] And he and I don't, you know, he's, we don't really connect.

[644] And then we went and I was like, tell me everything and I have it on my phone recorded.

[645] Do you remember the name?

[646] Of my, of my uncle?

[647] No. No, you're all.

[648] Yes, I have it recorded and I feel like I should save it.

[649] Yeah, yeah, save it.

[650] It sounds amazing.

[651] You know, this sarin gas.

[652] In Japan?

[653] Mm -hmm.

[654] Yes.

[655] Mm -hmm.

[656] He was in that cult?

[657] No. Well.

[658] He rented it to that guy?

[659] He rented it to the head of that cult.

[660] No. Yep.

[661] The guy that...

[662] Yes.

[663] Should I just tell you or should I work?

[664] He's such a funny guy.

[665] I think I should save it and let him tell you.

[666] Okay, good.

[667] Yeah.

[668] We'll do that.

[669] Okay.

[670] So yes.

[671] The answer is yes.

[672] Amanda asks Would you ever have a pen as a pen pal with somebody in prison?

[673] No. Oh, what is that?

[674] Not what we're interested in?

[675] No, thanks.

[676] Amber asks, what are some movies that you watch as a kid that frightened you, but you're still nostalgic about?

[677] Paltregeist.

[678] Olltergeist.

[679] The best.

[680] Arachnophobia?

[681] Oh, poor Michael, I, for a while, was a baby, like when I was super broken it was right after I started having seizures so I couldn't drive and I kind of couldn't do anything and my friend Pat Buckles God bless her soul she was like come and babysit the kids and I'll pay you whatever she took my car so it was like she was paying me to be the babysitter and then she got to use my car cool it was perfect but anyway Michael at the time who's now like in his early 20s but he was like five at the time and we were hanging out one night in arachnophobia came on I was like do you want to watch this he's like yeah he's still had like a little boy accent like this is scary like that i it scared the shit out of him and pat called me later is like really arachnophobia and i was like oh my god i'm so sorry like i had to relearn how to be a normal person with children because i was like oh yeah you're right that's a spider's coming out of a shower head i didn't take a shower as a kid for years no for uh what i still don't take shine.

[682] All baby powder.

[683] What were here of movies?

[684] As a kid, um, I mean, the exorcist, we saw, I mean, mine are older, but we would always see those movies that got rerun on at night, late night.

[685] So like the trilogy of terror.

[686] It's not a movie, but it was a TV show called the trilogy of terror.

[687] And anybody that was little in the 70s can tell you that it was the scariest fucking thing in the world.

[688] And we watched it.

[689] It was me and my sister.

[690] We were probably like seven and nine then my cousin stevie was like 13 and then hit our older cousins were like in their 15 16 whatever we all watched it together with the all the parents were out to dinner and it's the one where it has a little the last one is this little doll and I believe it's Karen black is the person who owns the doll and it's like someone gave it to her uh from a you know they brought it back from some different country and she gets up to take a shower and the doll that's like this tall sitting there and it has a thing around its neck, a necklace that says, never take this off.

[691] And then the necklace drops off and the doll comes to life.

[692] And it has a little knife and it just tries to kill her.

[693] And it's, it freaked us all out so bad that like that night we spent the night at my Aunt Jeans and my cousin's TV got up in the middle of the night screaming.

[694] Oh my God.

[695] Like it was a whole event in our family.

[696] I mean, well, we don't even need movies.

[697] We need all.

[698] The news was like, horrifying and they were like kids gather around yeah and look at all these horrific things happening we're about to eat in or check this shit out check this shit out i was just watching unself mysteries the other night and it's like the the song the theme song makes me want to cry yes and then um what was the one that was like twilight zone but it was newer it was called unex what was it stephen uh amazing story yes yes they had some really fucking and like all the ghost shit scared the shit out of me when i was a kid I think on amazing, were amazing stories based on true stories?

[699] Or was it just fiction?

[700] Because I feel like that was the one.

[701] It was either the reboot of Twilight Zone or it was amazing stories where there was a woman, a man picks his wife up after she has been attacked.

[702] He picks her up from the hospital.

[703] Remember that?

[704] And as they're driving home, she goes, that's him.

[705] That's the man. And she freaks out.

[706] He gets out, kills him, gets back in, and then she does it.

[707] She just keeps doing it the whole ride home.

[708] And suddenly he realizes he's killed the wrong man. Is that a, I think that's a Twilight Zone.

[709] But it was a new one.

[710] Oh, oh, you're right.

[711] Like it was modern.

[712] Yeah, it wasn't the old.

[713] It was great.

[714] You know, who will know was Joe De Rosa, who was a Twilight Zone expert.

[715] Do you know, so Joe DeRosa, he and Pat Walsh have a podcast that we've talked about called, what is it called?

[716] We'll see you in hell.

[717] And I've met Joe DeRosa's mom and she's got this accent, like Jerseyish accent.

[718] She's like, well, when I was, I would make Joe at six years old watch these whole.

[719] She's obsessed with horror movies.

[720] She was just talking about how she'd make Joe.

[721] I didn't want to watch him alone.

[722] So you'd make your five and six -year -old kid watch them with you.

[723] And it's like, oh, I get Joe so much better now.

[724] Yeah.

[725] Because he had to watch, had to watch these movies with his mommy.

[726] Joe.

[727] Okay, sorry.

[728] Go on.

[729] Not sorry.

[730] Why am I sorry?

[731] No, never sorry.

[732] Julia asks, what would your dream job in the true crime field be?

[733] Like if you could be in the true crime Like I guess Hmm Going through of Crime scene Analyst Is that a thing?

[734] Can I go for people shit?

[735] Yes That's all I want Crime scene analyst Sounds almost definitely like a real thing I want to go to the estate sale Of someone who got killed with the intent of finding out why they got killed.

[736] She's going to be a detective.

[737] Thank you.

[738] Oh my God.

[739] I want to be a detective.

[740] You want to be a detective.

[741] Yeah.

[742] Like a straight up, I don't, like, you know.

[743] Yes.

[744] I don't need a fancy fucking office.

[745] Title?

[746] Money.

[747] I'm trying to think.

[748] I feel like I would want to do something in the lab where they test things where people are waiting to see what the thing is.

[749] Really?

[750] Yeah, like, I like the idea of being at Ground Zero when you find out this is definitely his blood, it's not his blood.

[751] One of those things.

[752] That's cool.

[753] I don't, that's, that seems clean and I want to get disgusting.

[754] Right.

[755] I want to get disgusting except for I want it to be like fictionally disgusting, where it's interesting disgusting as opposed to regular bummer disgusting.

[756] I imagine the first time.

[757] I see the real, really what it is, I would change my mind.

[758] But I did find out that an ex -boyfriend was, worked at a morgue and would pick up the bodies.

[759] And I was fucking pissed that he got to do that after breaking my heart, that he got to then be something fucking cool and I didn't.

[760] Yeah.

[761] Did he appreciate it?

[762] Did he know that it was?

[763] I think he didn't, yeah.

[764] Matt Myra also worked it for a funeral home.

[765] He did.

[766] He, I listened to his, um, I think he was on Crabfeast and he told the story.

[767] It was, I mean, amazing stories.

[768] But I feel like I don't even know enough about any of it to know what my favorite thing would be.

[769] But I think, uh, the person who gets to call the lead detective to say, we got him, sunny, or whatever.

[770] I want to be a podcast, a true crime podcaster.

[771] Oh, I don't think you're going to, I don't think that's going to work out.

[772] That's not a job.

[773] so I've been told is it getting harder to find stories for the podcast no not in the least oh my god there's we have too many I have too many that I'm excited about yeah the hard thing is actually for me finding them for live shows suddenly the work the work of putting it together in a cohesive accurate condensed way it's just like that that's going to please people and having that consciousness of it and all the I think it's just the self -consciousness for live shows of all of it is that's what's hard for me yeah it's very hard it's hard but for me it's hard but rewarding and I enjoy it for our for the podcast but live shows is hard because you have you want to do it somewhere near the town you're doing it at least I want and then I realize that there's certain topics that you should I shouldn't be covering in the live shows so you don't want to do a bunch of child murders because then you get silence and that makes me self -conscious and weird So that part is hard for me. So when I do find one, I get really excited.

[774] But I don't have mine for this weekend.

[775] And it's Tuesday.

[776] Oh, God, we have so much time.

[777] Because it's so hard.

[778] Yeah, but now we're tour manager as my husband.

[779] And he's like, are you done?

[780] Do you need to do it?

[781] Georgia.

[782] No, we're not going out to eat.

[783] Well, then he's fired.

[784] We simply don't have to deal with that.

[785] He's fired from being my husband because he can still be the tour manager.

[786] That's right.

[787] Oh, and that was from me. Sarah.

[788] Thanks, Sarah.

[789] Hi, Sarah.

[790] And then, Allie asks, she's been dying to know after minisow 25, did you two go to Barnes & Noble and get mechanical pencils in a day planner?

[791] We did.

[792] We sure did.

[793] I couldn't wait.

[794] And so I went and got a day planner by myself.

[795] Right.

[796] Then we met up at Barnes & Noble to look to, and then George was like, well, let's go look at day planners.

[797] And then I was like, oh, I got one of any.

[798] but um but then we did that then we ate a bunch of sushi uh and we just had a good old time at the americana yeah that's it glendales grove that's that made well they love us what's up made well also sorry made well but then the j crew that's across from the made well at the grove is starting to feel very competitive because i went into the made well at the grove sorry this is i mean this is asshole corner but i went into the made well at the grove and the girl gave me a discount and we had a nice chat and then I got a tweet later that day that was like we like you better at the J crew across the street coming yeah it was really hilarious can I do asshole corner real quick and last night when I was at the fucking mecca of hipsterville of the Trader Joe's and Silver Lake and one of the Trader Joe's workers who was like I feel like they're on another plane of like coolness somehow maybe it's because I filled out an application for Trader Joe's and they never hired me because I can't math so it's like yeah yeah you think you're better than me but she was stocking salads and she turns to me and just goes you know that's the thing and I was just I almost started crying and I think I I think I overdid it because she was just like great and like walked away because I almost started crying and she's like this isn't what I wanted from telling her this yes yeah yeah we get we have nice fans yeah um over to go oh eve asks a stat I've heard slash seen slash right over the years is that there are approximately 87 active serial killers in the U .S. right now.

[799] Do you think this is accurate?

[800] Too high, too low?

[801] I just read an article that said there were 40.

[802] I know.

[803] I've seen lower like 30 to 40.

[804] But I mean...

[805] That's too many.

[806] Also, they don't know.

[807] It's all conjecture.

[808] So it's like, we think it's this.

[809] But then when the Killingfield series was on, it made it seem like there were 500 active serial killers.

[810] I mean, it was like, there's tons.

[811] A number I'm more interested in is how many clandestine graves are there?

[812] Like right now, caring you're sitting in front of a tapestry of a beautiful forest and it's like whenever and when we were driving uh we were on a road trip to a locate to do a live show and I was staring at the window and looking at the fields and all I could think of was how many dead bodies are buried out there yeah because there's got to be so many so serial killers I don't know yeah but dead bodies that's what you want to know yeah yeah it's it's an interesting there's a really good um I believe it's in the Sandman series by Neil Gaiman, but if I'm wrong, man, are people going to be mad at me?

[813] But there was one of the comic books and the whole thing was about how all the serial killers were meeting up at a motel for the, did you read that one?

[814] For the serial killer convention they were having.

[815] That wasn't American gods, was it?

[816] No. Oh, that was all the gods.

[817] Because it's called American fucking.

[818] Yes.

[819] Similar feel, but I'm pretty sure it was Sandman.

[820] And it was so, I think about that all the time.

[821] We're like, do they know each other?

[822] I bet they hate each other.

[823] Yeah, I mean, yeah, because they want to be the.

[824] Yeah.

[825] I bet they're like, they're not doing it right.

[826] Yeah.

[827] Jordan asks, so my husband got me this Bluetooth whistle thing that should I blow it, a text with help in my GPS location is sent to three of my contacts.

[828] It keeps updating with my GPS until I check in and verify I'm fine.

[829] My question is, what do you think about this kind of technology?

[830] Would you guys carry one?

[831] And do you think it'll be common in the future?

[832] What if it just picked?

[833] whatever it was like a roulette of whatever contacts and it was like your ex -boyfriend and some guy you met at a fucking someone that you used to work with that you do not talk to anymore I'm sorry what help I the first thing I thought of like I love the idea of that but if in my hands like this weekend I was at the Bridgetown Comedy Festival super fun great I must have lost my glasses five times and a couple of the times they were in my pocket and I was just like in the second I thought they were gone I I was freaking out and, like, I left him at the last place.

[834] I would start walking back to places, the whole nine yards.

[835] But so that being said, what I mean is I have that thing of like, I'm going to be sending help to people and never meaning it after a while.

[836] Just like the fable, everyone's like, it's just her thing where she touches it all the time, but actually I'm at the bottom of a well, you know, it's going to backfire on.

[837] Well, eventually we'll know.

[838] Eventually after three days of, have you heard from Karen?

[839] Yeah, but the way I am of like flage.

[840] laking on people in late, it's going to be like three months later.

[841] You're like, should we check on Karen?

[842] Oh, she might be mad at me or whatever.

[843] It just like never come over.

[844] I almost got you for your birthday.

[845] It was this like journal notebook and it just said on the front, uh, excuses for why I can't go out.

[846] But I didn't.

[847] So true.

[848] I mean, dude, I need that too.

[849] I mean.

[850] I was like, do I have a stomach ailment?

[851] Like this weekend was great because I was trying to do a fake, not a. real fast.

[852] And I was like, I can just tell everyone that I can't go out and they'll get it because we're in L .A. Yes, that's right.

[853] That's a classic.

[854] And then I had a pretzel.

[855] That pretzel looked so good.

[856] Georgia texted me the pretzel, the picture of the pretzel that was breaking her fast.

[857] And I wanted to reach through the phone and grab it away from her.

[858] The York and Highland Park.

[859] And as I was walking back to my car, Vince and I were walking across the crosswalk and this couple.

[860] And one of them is like a model, like one of the most beautiful women.

[861] And she said, hi Georgia and I was like I absolutely don't know anyone who looks like that and I said hi like I not hi I said hi but I then she tweeted at me was like I said hi to you I'm a fan of the podcast and I was like I know because I would have known that I know a model oh it's my model friend Gloria model friend yes tangent I also I also the first thing I said when I got here was like that pretzel looks amazing it will I just was like like oh my god so it was so big you had it it looked like a cartoon pretzel yes that's right york and highland park shout out yeah well done on your pretzel game um elissa asks do you think you guys could get away with murder no no i don't think no i would leave my glasses there leopold and lobe shout out for real i would confess yeah i think i just couldn't carry that around with me. No, no, no. That's even considering it makes me feel guilty.

[862] Like, everything about it is so terrible.

[863] I just, I can't, you know, I wouldn't get away with it because I don't think, because in my mind, I would think I couldn't get away with it.

[864] So I would just go insane and I would probably kill myself and leave a note.

[865] I just couldn't do it.

[866] Yeah.

[867] But then you'd already killed somebody else.

[868] So then it was just like, it would just be a total wipe.

[869] Yeah.

[870] Just no one.

[871] No, nobody.

[872] Everybody loses.

[873] Yeah.

[874] I, I did once know a person who was not related.

[875] to me, or in my friend circle or whatever, it was like somebody else's somebody.

[876] And they were such an awful person to be around, such an awful person that I was like, in my mind, I was like, I could poison that person.

[877] It would never get back to me because I have no connection.

[878] And I know it would be a solution for a lot of people's lives.

[879] But, you know.

[880] That's the thing I think is you can't have any ties.

[881] You can't have any ties, but you'll still have ties.

[882] Because in this day and age, with the everything is traceable there's no perfect crime you can't do it and DNA there's no I mean there's no thing that doesn't tie you back even poison it's like well they can trace why where people bought this poison yes there's no way there's no way also don't kill people also yeah this then in me killing this person I think is so terrible makes me worse than that person right so right end of thought process listen stop it don't get life insurance balls stop it okay Charlotte asks if you had a chance to go back and be involved in an investigation of any serial killer or unsolved case which one would it be and why?

[883] Oh, like can we listen, I know you didn't write this Stephen but I want some clarity like from the beginning let's say don't look at that paper tell Stephen you're answering this from the beginning I'm going to say yeah you hit the ground running your like first call well jean benet i'd say zodiac oh i just recently rew and i talked about it but rewatched that movie at sin of family oh cool it's such a good movie it's so perfectly made a new a new serial killer movie right i know yep what is it is it the one about the the british guy i don't know i someone told me about it and i got so excited i think i wrote it in my calendar i think my friend carlos who is like We've been friends for a long time, but as soon as I started this, he found out about this podcast, he just sends me shit all the time about, like, murder.

[884] The best.

[885] And he sent me the trailer.

[886] I haven't seen it, but, uh, we watched it together, didn't we?

[887] Probably.

[888] I bet we did.

[889] Okay.

[890] So you're probably the person I'm talking about when I say someone told me about it.

[891] We're great.

[892] I mean, our worlds are just combining.

[893] I think we saw each other every day last week.

[894] I really did.

[895] Like, not even, just as like, and I was probably wearing a new vintage dress in every single one.

[896] And I was wearing my same meeting shirt every single day.

[897] Okay, that's a great one.

[898] Yeah.

[899] That's a hard one, because I feel like John Bonnet is easy.

[900] It's obvious.

[901] But Zodiac is clues and shit.

[902] Oh, sorry.

[903] I meant Zodiac with Mark Ruffalo.

[904] I just would like to be around him doing some very honorable and noble police work.

[905] Fair enough.

[906] In the 70s of San Francisco.

[907] Let's see.

[908] I think we're winding down.

[909] Mm -mm.

[910] more i love talking about myself uh if you were an inmate on death row julia asks um this is the same julia as before she can ask that fried chicken you want your final meal right chicken i knew that was i fucking i love those photos i do too that oh man there was a girl the girl who got so drunk at one of our shows that she vomited and crawled out and crawled out fucking who was lovely just fist in the air to you girl turned out to be a lovely girl, had done a dinner party of last meals.

[911] And I think she, like, bought 14 buckets of KFC, you know, like did the whole thing.

[912] Serving that stuff up.

[913] I mean, what would you do?

[914] Because I could go eat KFC right now if I wanted to.

[915] I'd fucking hate myself.

[916] But sorry, are you saying you would do just full only fried chicken?

[917] Oh, gosh, no. Or a full KFC, like, buffet.

[918] Yeah.

[919] Okay.

[920] Which, remember when we were driving?

[921] to Philadelphia and they had a KFC buffet restaurant.

[922] Yes, that's right.

[923] My dream.

[924] Anyways, what would you be?

[925] Let's see.

[926] I mean, I guess it would have to do my, what I call my quote -unquote special occasion foods that I eat constantly, pretending that it's my birthday all the time, which is like mac and cheese.

[927] From where?

[928] Like it has to be a place.

[929] Or just like a kind.

[930] Is there like like?

[931] I guess like, um shit i'm trying to think of like where's a plate like a soul food restaurant mac and cheese um probably i guess like a soul because fried chicken i guess you're right soul food would like those baked beans that kind of stuff but also i was going to say um mac and cheese at one of those soft pretzels with the cheese dip yeah something like that now my mouth's just watering and it's gross i'm hungry i'm glad this is ending um what was i oh um A waffle, chicken and waffles.

[932] Well, oh, I was going to say, we have a little road trip this weekend on our tour, and there is a White Castle.

[933] Yes.

[934] As far as Vince is concerned, or says.

[935] Yeah.

[936] And I've never been to an actual White Castle restaurant.

[937] I've had them frozen so many drunk times.

[938] Yeah.

[939] And I'm really excited to go to a real hot out of the bag.

[940] We neither of us as California girls have ever had that experience.

[941] Never.

[942] Of White Castle out of the bag.

[943] hoping there's a waffle house but I'm not sure if there is but either way we're going to get our white castle we're getting our white castle it's exciting um Lauren asks just curious to know what your thoughts are on making a murderer I loved it I watched it I think that was near the beginning of us of this podcast because I watched it I started it at seven o 'clock at night and stayed up all night and watched it through the night and into the next morning and then I remember telling you about it after I did that yeah I just couldn't stop watching it It was an incredible, incredible show.

[944] Yeah.

[945] With people who seemed like they were from central casting of either inept or totally corrupt politician types.

[946] It was amazing.

[947] And then I went to and you were supposed to come to the Strand and Sturm and Drang.

[948] What was it?

[949] Strand and Dean.

[950] Yeah.

[951] Like they had a Q &A or like a talkie times.

[952] Yes.

[953] It was great.

[954] They're fucking bad ass motherfuckers.

[955] Yeah.

[956] Yeah, it was great.

[957] This question comes from City Life Office.

[958] Uh -oh.

[959] Uh -oh.

[960] You're serving us with their papers through Stephen.

[961] You're under arrest.

[962] It's all been a ruse.

[963] City Life Office asks, what does a day in the life of Karen and Georgia look like?

[964] Oh, God.

[965] Tell me your, you want to tell me your day today?

[966] We get up out of our bunk beds.

[967] Georgia slips into a vintage dress.

[968] I put my meeting shirt on.

[969] A house dress.

[970] Karen loses her fucking mind because I'm in a house dress.

[971] I panicked, even though it's eight in the morning.

[972] I woke up late and went to therapy.

[973] I screamed at a chair for the first time.

[974] Interesting.

[975] In a role -playing situation?

[976] How'd it feel?

[977] Hard.

[978] It was really hard.

[979] Cry a lot.

[980] Because it felt stupid or it was hard emotionally.

[981] It felt stupid, but it was really hard emotionally.

[982] And I fucking bald, which I don't do in therapy.

[983] Yeah, you got to get that stuff out.

[984] It felt good.

[985] I thought I have a ton of anger.

[986] anger, I'm just keeping inside of me. Hello, and welcome to my world.

[987] Do you do?

[988] Have you ever done that?

[989] I've never done it for.

[990] I don't keep it inside me. No, because I don't have a problem expressing anger or crying at all.

[991] I'm right there on the edge at all times of any emotion that you could name, willing to serve it up with a, just a little bit of glaze on the top.

[992] We'll get ready for cunt, screamy Georgia.

[993] Is that your new phase?

[994] She's coming up.

[995] Yeah.

[996] It's happening.

[997] I want the world to know.

[998] I'll back you up, girl.

[999] That she's fucking pissed off of shit.

[1000] I get you.

[1001] Mom, you dicked me over.

[1002] I'll back you up, girl.

[1003] You guys scream it out.

[1004] My therapist was so happy.

[1005] Like I could see, she was on the edge of her comfy sofa chair.

[1006] Yeah.

[1007] And she was like, honest, like cheering.

[1008] And I was like, oh, I'm doing this right, finally after two and a half years of therapy.

[1009] What did you do today?

[1010] She broke you open.

[1011] She broke me open.

[1012] Well, and just so you know.

[1013] Cadbury cream egg.

[1014] I would.

[1015] then you got your stuff all over there all over that chair um i was raised in a household of yellers and confronters always so to me it's not only i mean i get upset when i know i when i know i'm going to upset other people or when other people are upset um which then makes me need to get mad so that you don't get to have your feelings but i still get to do my thing, preemptively, like, shielding yourself from what's about, not even shielding yourself, just like, preparing for it.

[1016] Oh.

[1017] Recoil maybe, whatever.

[1018] It just all becomes a thing.

[1019] But, like, my dad, just saying that, because in our family, my dad would answer the phone yelling so that when people would be like, is Karen there, I'd be like, hold on a second.

[1020] And then I would pick up the phone and almost, like, eight out of ten times, my friends would go, are you in trouble?

[1021] And I'd be like, no, what are you talking about?

[1022] Because the volume and the like emotion level in our house was always at eight.

[1023] So you must have a lot of tension.

[1024] Yeah.

[1025] Oh, yes.

[1026] I have more than my fair share of tension.

[1027] And also that kind of like being criticized when you're criticized all the time or like teased all the time, then you have a sensitivity that doesn't make sense.

[1028] It'll come out and it doesn't make sense to people when it's because it's kind of like a lifelong raw nerve.

[1029] It's like a very random one.

[1030] And then if you touch it, good night.

[1031] Good night.

[1032] You're like a fucking mosquito thing.

[1033] And there's malaria.

[1034] And you get the malaria.

[1035] And the mosquito catches on fire.

[1036] It's exciting.

[1037] Mine is a timidness.

[1038] So I say, you don't get to fucking see my anger.

[1039] I'm going to put it inside me and get gastrointestinal issues because of my anger.

[1040] Because of my anger, who's inside of me?

[1041] Yeah.

[1042] Yeah.

[1043] I think that's very common with.

[1044] women yeah because it's not certainly not feminine considered typically feminine or in any way attractive to be when i got home from therapy i had to say to vince is it okay that i'm mad at you like over this thing yeah like i couldn't even be mad at him i had to make sure it was okay well it's very scary yeah there's a great book called the dance of anger not to be totally weird doing it no we need this is a thing well this is a book i read and it's because it's this amazing breakdown of how people who are angry or use anger what they're actually doing and because it's very intimidating and it's very shocking a lot of times and if you if you do it correctly you can really control people with your emotions to a point well my mom did that for sure yeah so you kind of it's just like that would happen in my house is like if you had a complaint people would just yell you down with their bigger complaint or if you were angry they were angrier about something else so it was just like you could never really have the floor because that was a very threatening thing to have a problem with like the system.

[1045] It was like unjustified or your anger was compounded because they wouldn't listen to it.

[1046] Yes.

[1047] It wasn't justified.

[1048] Your anger wasn't justified in someone else's eyes.

[1049] Never.

[1050] And also it was always, I was the dramatic one.

[1051] So it was like no matter what I was doing, I was being overdramatic.

[1052] So yeah, that's insanely frustrating.

[1053] What's the call?

[1054] Oh, it's called the dance of anger.

[1055] And it's basically like when angry people, shut you down it's the perfect way to get people to stop doing whatever they're doing because you're intimidating them but if you can get through that and not be intimidated you can get that angry person to actually break open because you paint yourself into a corner when you're like the angry shouter reactor and you don't ever get to learn and grow and all this and actually like communicate what the real problem is well you show me that too where it's like when I've gotten angry with you it's like what's what's really going on and I want to be like nothing you fucked up and then it's like oh well I'm into I feel sad and intimidated over this thing and I'm panicking and it's like oh my god it's really scary to be vulnerable it's horrible it's horrible that worked um and it's easier to be angry because that's the first it's just like the thing that shoots up first you go with that maybe double down on it and then you're free and clear because everyone backs away yeah but then for me and it's even harder than at that point to come back and be like well well No, yeah, you can't.

[1056] There's no, I mean, talk about, like, rigidity and, like, you really have to then.

[1057] It's like, it's like 90s stand -up comedy where all we did was go like, that person sucks, that person sucks.

[1058] And then suddenly you're like, well, then everyone's my enemy.

[1059] Like, doesn't make sense.

[1060] It doesn't.

[1061] Everyone's just trying.

[1062] Why do they suck?

[1063] Yeah.

[1064] And also really because what you're saying is I suck.

[1065] Yeah.

[1066] Crying today was really helpful.

[1067] And I'm really excited to go in my closet and put a chair in the corner and scream at it.

[1068] I can't wait.

[1069] That's good.

[1070] It's going to be great.

[1071] That's, you've got your, like, your elbows deep in the good stuff right now.

[1072] This is the first time she's been like, here we go.

[1073] And I'm like, why have I been paying you for the past two years when you should have to tell me to scream and fucking cry?

[1074] Because it takes, that's the thing about therapy.

[1075] Like, I remember in like year seven with my therapist going, ooh, I feel like we just chip something off.

[1076] And she's like, that's right.

[1077] Like, we're just chipping away a calcified wall of bad ideas that we're pretty soon we're going to get to a door.

[1078] And then I'm going to be too scared to open that door.

[1079] What was so funny to me is last week, you and I were having dinner at a place.

[1080] And then I was like, yeah, I think I'm going to go to every other week with my therapist.

[1081] I think I'm good right now.

[1082] And then later I was like, yeah, my therapist said to me that next week we're going to get into the deep mom stuff.

[1083] And you were like, so you're going to go see her every other week, huh?

[1084] And it was like so obvious.

[1085] I was like, I can't deal with that.

[1086] I'm going to go not see her anymore.

[1087] And that made me be like, maybe don't not go see her every other week.

[1088] Maybe you really fucking need to get into the shit now.

[1089] Sorry, I caught you.

[1090] You fucking cock blocked me so hard.

[1091] I'm not seeing my therapist.

[1092] Thank you.

[1093] Thank you.

[1094] You're welcome.

[1095] It was really great today.

[1096] You're welcome.

[1097] That makes me very happy to hear.

[1098] That's good.

[1099] So that's basically how our days go.

[1100] Oh, yeah.

[1101] If that's not what we're doing, it's what we're talking about.

[1102] Therapy is life, man. Really?

[1103] And also, what I told Georgia at one point, I can't remember we got into a fight about some dumb thing.

[1104] And then after when we had a great.

[1105] talk about it.

[1106] The thing I love the most is that we always have the best talks.

[1107] We get further along.

[1108] It makes me so happy.

[1109] And it makes me happy to be friends with you.

[1110] Thank you.

[1111] Me too.

[1112] But growing and learning.

[1113] We really are.

[1114] And at one point, I told Georgia, I go, right?

[1115] At this point, I feel like I'm being paid to maintain a good relationship with you.

[1116] Like, that's all we have to do.

[1117] That's what this podcast is, is making sure that, what if, like, nobody listens and it was just our therapist feeding into, like, they were all the Twitter people and they were all the like people buying tickets to the shows and just giving away for free being like god they're learning so much finally what great therapists that are really dedicated to us totally that would be amazing what we're going to say you're going to say that we're being paid to oh no just that joke of like that that's and also I my therapist actually said that to me she's like if you can make this relationship with georgia work you can make any relationship work which is of course after you get a divorce you become convinced that you just simply can't do it And so why try and why go back to, you know, a ground zero type situation and be like, oh, I guess I'll do this again and fuck it up again and be bad at this again.

[1118] And maybe eight months or in five years, it'll fucking implode.

[1119] Yeah.

[1120] It could actually work with the right temperament.

[1121] And the, it's like a resilience, a quality of resilience and a quality of being willing to say, I made a mistake, can we fix it?

[1122] Yeah.

[1123] that's all yeah you know what we're all human that's right uh that was really beautiful thank you Stephen kept putting the microphone when he thought it was over and then we just kept going can I interrupt you guys please stop keep this going Stephen was like I wasn't can you guys I'm not recording we've got so many more questions um should we end on that and play jesse's murder or is there a really good one that you wanted to end with there's one good one to end way.

[1124] Okay.

[1125] Okay.

[1126] Um, and then one note because people were asking what my favorite murder was, and it's Selena from episode 32.

[1127] That's right.

[1128] That was my favorite murder.

[1129] Because you remember it as a child, right?

[1130] Yeah, it had, it had that same kind of impact when, when people talk about that thing where you saw on the TV or, and you grew up in a Mexican American family.

[1131] Yes, exactly.

[1132] Yeah.

[1133] And so you, it's just something you talked about all the time.

[1134] So, yeah.

[1135] Well, and it's so shocking.

[1136] It's so, I think about that one a lot too, where it's just so unnecessary and so tragic that, And so surprising the way it happened.

[1137] It wasn't a, you know, a male, rabid male fan.

[1138] It was just this insanely mentally ill woman.

[1139] And it's so unnecessary and sad.

[1140] Yeah.

[1141] And at that point of the double tragedy or the extended tragedy of that she was just about to potentially cross over and kind of become this, I don't know, a symbol of Latin American or whatever, Mexican American star that was like, suddenly it's like these are here's another kind of music that you can get into and listen to and here like she was just she was basically on that train of everybody knowing her wonderful person too yeah sorry stephen um so this is this question i had to print out the email for it uh because it's sort of a hometown as well the uh headline is would you marry a serial killer's son um hello karen georgia stephen and fur babies uh love the podcast you hold a special place in my heart i'm really curious to know what each of you would do in this situation a relative of mine met the love of her life and after a whirlwind of romance he sat her down for a serious chat he said that he would love to have a future with her but before they went any further she needed to know that his father was in jail for killing and dismembering a large number of sex workers oh no my relative decided to stay with her man and they are now married with children I guess the next thing to do is decide when to tell her children about their grandfather before they can discover it online for themselves, if they choose.

[1142] What would you do?

[1143] Oh, well, I would definitely continue a relationship with that person.

[1144] They're not responsible for their father's actions and the fact that they understood the severity of it enough to sit them before it was very, you know, before they were in deep, let them know because understanding that that's a choice someone would make that's very mature and I would never hold that against someone yeah I would I would never hold that against anybody and it's that they're actually a victim as well like it's not there's anything it would just be like how difficult that would be for a person it would almost I feel like I would like to think I would have even more empathy for that person because they had gone through such a serious life challenge and their relationship And I mean, everything about that would be so hard for that person.

[1145] I would just feel such deep sadness and empathy for them that it would almost be the opposite of like I wouldn't break up with them.

[1146] Never.

[1147] And as for the kids, I feel like he slowly introduced like, you know, as they understand what grandmas and grandpas are.

[1148] And what about dad's dad?

[1149] Where's dad?

[1150] You know, you say he did a very bad thing and he's in jail.

[1151] He's in prison forever for it.

[1152] Or, you know, and you slowly let them know.

[1153] You slowly give more information to them.

[1154] Yeah.

[1155] Because I realize this, and it's weird that I've never said this before, and I, in no way, was holding it back.

[1156] I just kind of mentally, like, rediscovered it recently.

[1157] But my mother's father died when she was 21, so I never knew him.

[1158] But I found out when I was a full -grown adult, I think probably in my late 20s, my dad told me, he was stabbed to death in a bar fight.

[1159] holy shit and that's how he died that's how he died but we were always told he died of a heart attack and so it wasn't until much much later and I didn't like I didn't know anything about it but I only recently realized where I'm like oh actually Isn't that funny when it's your own thing you don't it's my own thing but I also don't I have no connection to it except to know like my mother never spoke about it and she never like for the story she kind of put out there was like he just died of a heart attack like don't worry about it and she didn't like him because he was a really bad alcoholic and he had, you know, he had a lot of problems.

[1160] Wow.

[1161] So it was almost just like that's the side of the family you don't talk about as much.

[1162] Tragedy.

[1163] I know, it's not weird.

[1164] I don't know if it's my story to tell but I'll just say that Vince's grandfather he never met who was a police officer who died in the line of duty and so the grandfather he grew up with was his step grandfather and it's just this like they didn't talk about it either.

[1165] Yeah.

[1166] I feel like, more people than you would know.

[1167] Yeah.

[1168] Like if you ask people like about the tragedies in their family, you'd be shocked how many have humongous ones that they just simply don't discuss.

[1169] Because they've grown up with it as a secret or as a thing and nobody will discuss it with them or them wanting to know more about it is they're a bad person for wanting to know more about it.

[1170] They're opening wounds or they're.

[1171] Yeah.

[1172] Like it's very, it's too sensitive.

[1173] Yeah.

[1174] It's interesting.

[1175] It is interesting.

[1176] That's a good question.

[1177] Hope.

[1178] Good luck with that.

[1179] Everyone.

[1180] That was it?

[1181] Yep.

[1182] That's the Q &A.

[1183] Wow.

[1184] That was fun.

[1185] That was fun.

[1186] I mean, yeah.

[1187] I like, let's just change the podcast.

[1188] That took questions for us.

[1189] You guys, thanks for sending 400 questions in.

[1190] Oh, my God.

[1191] In such a short time.

[1192] We'll do it again sometime and get, for sure.

[1193] Get other ones.

[1194] Stephen, thank you for going through all of those.

[1195] Were there a lot of weird ones?

[1196] No, I mean, yeah.

[1197] These were some great questions that I liked.

[1198] Thank you.

[1199] Good job.

[1200] Those were really good stuff.

[1201] Yeah, those were really good.

[1202] Thank you.

[1203] We have a quick hometown that I, this is a murder.

[1204] I've always, I saw this one years ago on like a date line or some stuff that I couldn't do because it was kind of one of those small ones.

[1205] But then I found out when I met Vince, that Vince's, one of Vince's best friends, Jesse Pop, was directly connected to this murder.

[1206] Wow.

[1207] Yeah.

[1208] And so Jesse Pop, fucking hilarious comedian.

[1209] He just came out with his new album called I'm the Best, which is so funny if you know, Jesse Pop that that's, it's just so hilarious.

[1210] It's him in a robocop costume drunk at a bar.

[1211] That he actually really wore to a Halloween party at a bar.

[1212] But he's like, got a solo cup and he's drunk.

[1213] He's just such a funny person.

[1214] And I watched the live taping of this comedy album and my fucking God, he's, one of the best joke writers I've ever heard.

[1215] He's among the comedy community he's known as one of the best stand -ups there is.

[1216] Yeah.

[1217] So it's an album worth buying.

[1218] Yes, for sure.

[1219] I'm the best.

[1220] It's on iTunes and all the places you buy stuff.

[1221] And so here is Jesse Pops hometown.

[1222] Wait a let me put it on speaker.

[1223] Okay.

[1224] This is my hometown murder.

[1225] About six, seven years ago, I was living in New York and I ran out of money so I went back home to Michigan.

[1226] And we got a job at the locals, Apple Orchard there.

[1227] I was just kind of like, you know, ride the tractor and, you know, doing shit you can do when you don't know how to farm.

[1228] And there was just one kid there, and I talked to him a few times, and he kind of, I mean, he just struck me as a little squirrely, nothing too crazy.

[1229] And then I asked a few people about people just like shooting the shit.

[1230] I was like, so, like, that's up of this kid.

[1231] There, I go, he's nice and all this.

[1232] And it didn't really stick in my mind.

[1233] And then, you know, I saved up some money.

[1234] Went back to New York.

[1235] And then a year later, this kid got arrested for murdering his mom.

[1236] Oh, that's real crazy.

[1237] And then it turns out what was going on is she, the mom, was schizophrenic and bipolar and also very, very religious, and wasn't taking her medicine because she thought it was sorcery.

[1238] And she had gotten so far gone.

[1239] She was, like, stashing knives in her headboard.

[1240] it, but for, like, tracking devices in the bloodstream and all this.

[1241] And then also, the dad had started stepping out, and there's also, like, a little before the murder, she'd been arrested for strangling this kid because he was trying to get her to take her medicine, and then also he had a younger sister, who the mom was homeschooling still for some reason, so there's a lot going on, and even all the news.

[1242] They'd be, like, you know, the perfect family, which is not what was going on.

[1243] Anyway, this was a very brisly scene, I guess, where no one broke in, no signs of force and took a two -by -four and basically bashed her head open a bunch of times and then took a knife and stabbed her in the throat a bunch of times and there was blood and stuff.

[1244] And this kid said that he had been, his alibi was that he had been planting bushes for a neighbor lady, which turned out not to be true.

[1245] and then he punched into work and his hands were all fucked up and he told people it was for moving pallets which moving pallets doesn't really get your hands the way that his work so he got arrested and he got convicted because you know people were spending him and saying there's no way he did it could be so nice but he got arrested and he's going to do at least I think 20 or 30 years or something and take the medicine and don't kill your mom.

[1246] Nice.

[1247] That's exactly right, Jesse.

[1248] Take your medicine and don't kill your mom.

[1249] Please.

[1250] The other thing he didn't mention in that the apple orchard was his sister, Jesse's sister's apple orchard.

[1251] Oh, wow.

[1252] Yeah, and I've been there, Spicer's and I had a fucking apple cider donut in Michigan.

[1253] Oh, my God.

[1254] The best.

[1255] This took me there in Michigan and it was amazing.

[1256] That's so intense.

[1257] Did you ever see the like 20, 20 or 48 hours about that one?

[1258] The story sounds familiar, but absolutely.

[1259] I was listening to him tell it.

[1260] I was like, is it familiar because he's told it to me before.

[1261] Because sometimes he'll wear the Spicer's Apple Orchard T -shirt.

[1262] Yeah.

[1263] I'm like, is he an ironic hipster?

[1264] And he's like, no, I used to fucking work here.

[1265] Wow.

[1266] That was a great way to end a really fun question.

[1267] Wow.

[1268] Next, next mini -sode hometown murder, I'll play my uncle's Oh, yeah, that's awesome.

[1269] Gas situation.

[1270] Amazing.

[1271] I know.

[1272] I love it.

[1273] Thanks, Jesse.

[1274] that Jesse Pop by his album I'm the best I'm the best Vince Averill my husband put it out on his record label what's his record label called?

[1275] It's called capsule records what if I fucking didn't know I know I was like oh no as slow motion of like think of the t -shirt I cut this well that was awesome thank you Stephen for that doing that yeah and thank you guys for sending in those questions oh it's so much fun stay sexy and don't get murdered.

[1276] Bye.

[1277] Elvis, you're sitting right here.

[1278] Do you want a cookie?

[1279] He said it right.

[1280] He poked his head into the microphone.

[1281] He leaned up like a voiceover actor and meowed into the microphone.

[1282] You're the best.

[1283] Good job, Bobby.

[1284] Bye.

[1285] That's amazing.

[1286] That was hilarious.

[1287] It's my time to shine.