A Pandemic-Proof Bubble?

[0] This is Mark Stein from Slovenia, number 77.

[1] This is Mark Stein, NBA reporter for the New York Times.

[2] I am courtside for first round NBA playoff game.

[3] No fans in the building apart from virtual fans on the video board.

[4] There's piped in crowd noise both in the arena and on television.

[5] So they've gone to great lengths to try to create some atmosphere in here.

[6] here in the NBA bubble.

[7] It's surreal, really.

[8] There's never been an NBA postseason like this.

[9] From the New York Times, I'm Michael Babaro.

[10] This is a daily.

[11] So the game just tipped off.

[12] Game is underway.

[13] Today.

[14] To finish its regular season and reach the playoffs this week, the NBA has undertaken a social and medical experiment, unlike anything.

[15] in the history of sports.

[16] My colleague, Mark Stein, on life inside the NBA bubble.

[17] It's Friday, August 21st.

[18] Mark, just to begin with, tell me where you are.

[19] I am at the Coronado Springs Resort at Walt Disney World in what is known as the NBA bubble.

[20] There's three hotels that house teams.

[21] And then I'm in the fourth hotel that houses the referees, the media, the game operations personnel, all the people who kind of make the bubble go.

[22] So this hotel room is where you now live.

[23] Yeah.

[24] Behind a big, heavy brown door in my 314 square foot hotel room.

[25] So, Mark, how did this grand experiment, this bubble?

[26] How did it come to be?

[27] Well, first you have to understand that this has been a very big.

[28] very difficult season for the NBA on a lot of fronts.

[29] As a Rockets fan, I'm very disappointed.

[30] As a Chinese, I feel very...

[31] In early October, as teams were heading to China for exhibition play.

[32] Friday, Darry, general manager of the Houston Rockets NBA team, tweeted, Fight for Freedom, Stand with Hong Kong.

[33] The general manager of the Houston Rockets, he posted in support of pro -democracy, protest, in Hong Kong.

[34] And big sponsors, like 10 cents, saying that they would suspend live streaming any of the Rockets game.

[35] So a lot of money's at stake.

[36] It became so costly and controversial for the league's business relationships in China.

[37] Adam Silver, the NBA commissioner, estimated the loss from that tweet to be in the hundreds of millions.

[38] Hundreds of millions, the league lost from one tweet.

[39] So after this very controversial start to the season, Heartbreaking news today, David Stern passing away at the age of 77.

[40] David Stern, its longtime former commissioner, died on January 1st.

[41] He was a marketing genius, just really grew our brand.

[42] And shortly after that, just within weeks.

[43] And we're following very tragic, very sad, breaking news.

[44] The NBA legend, Kobe Bryant, has died in a helicopter crash in the city of California.

[45] Was the Kobe Bryant tragedy, the helicopter crash that killed Kobe Bryant, his daughter, seven other people aboard.

[46] Brian had one of the biggest careers in NBA history, starring for two decades.

[47] His death was just an immeasurable loss for the league.

[48] Right.

[49] And as if all that was not enough, then the pandemic strikes.

[50] Right.

[51] So the NBA, it actually has an office in China.

[52] So league officials had been tracking the coronavirus pretty aggressively.

[53] And just to give you an idea of how quickly this thing did bring the league to a halt, on March 11th, it was announced that the Golden State Warriors and the Brooklyn Nets were going to play a game the next day without fans.

[54] And I was actually on a plane that night flying to San Francisco because I was assigned to cover that game, which would have been the first in NBA history without fans.

[55] That night, Rudy Gobert of the Utah Jazz, did positive for the coronavirus in Oklahoma City and the season was suspended.

[56] It happened that quick.

[57] Right.

[58] I remember this being one of the first data points for the whole country that the pandemic was going to be very serious and significant.

[59] Was there any thinking at that point, Mark, of, well, that's that.

[60] You know, coronavirus is here.

[61] No season.

[62] I guess we'll resume play when the pandemic is over.

[63] No question.

[64] In April and even in to there was great skepticism in all corners of the league that there just might not be a way to resurrect what's left of the 2019 season.

[65] But the reality is, like all businesses, there was great financial incentive for all parties in the league to find a way to bring this season to a conclusion.

[66] With no playoffs, the NBA would lose an estimated $1 billion in television revenue.

[67] Wow.

[68] And the way NBA finances work, it's a 50 -50 revenue split between the teams and its players.

[69] So if that $1 billion in revenue is lost, the players shoulder 50 % of that in lost salaries.

[70] Right.

[71] I mean, there's literally a billion reasons why everybody involved in the sport would want to make sure that they could keep playing.

[72] Right.

[73] So for all the financial incentive that all these parties had, it then becomes a question of how do you, you pull this off.

[74] And that's an even tougher question for a basketball league, probably than any other team sport you can name because you're indoors and face -to -face, very physical, close proximity for more than two hours.

[75] And that is something the NBA had to contemplate from the start.

[76] How do you bring everyone back in the middle of a pandemic in conditions that theoretically could promote the spread of the virus.

[77] So what the league did was it's been in pretty heavy consultation with government health officials and they reached the conclusion that the only way to try this was to construct a so -called bubble, a tightly controlled campus where the league governed everything.

[78] Who's allowed in?

[79] Who's allowed out?

[80] How and when they're allowed to move?

[81] to create a village that if everything went well, would at least give them a chance of keeping the virus out and get the season to the finish line.

[82] Right.

[83] And of course, once you settle on the bubble, you have to figure out where you're going to build the bubble.

[84] The league did get a lot of pitches from a lot of places, but pretty quickly the NBA zeroed in on two locales.

[85] Las Vegas, where the league, does a lot of business and the second option was Disney World and that owes greatly to the NBA's very deep relationship with Disney which owns ESPN so you have the business ties but you also have the layout of Disney World with all the requisite arenas to stage all these games but also hotel properties for the teams to stay, and all of this behind the same set of gates.

[86] And so the NBA chose Disney World.

[87] Mark, I'm curious how the NBA sold this to the players.

[88] This pitch doesn't sound all that appealing.

[89] Hey, we have this great idea, enter this bubble village, not just for days or weeks, but for months, a whole season, and we hope you don't get the virus.

[90] We can't promise you, you won't get the virus.

[91] That doesn't sound all that appealing.

[92] It was an undoubtedly tough sell.

[93] There's safety concerns.

[94] You know, families will not be allowed into the bubble until after the first round of the playoffs at the end of August.

[95] So you're asking players to go weeks without seeing anyone from their family.

[96] And then...

[97] Being a bystander is no longer acceptable.

[98] After the George Floyd killing and when protests took hold nationwide.

[99] You saw many NBA players taking part in these protests.

[100] And to do with it.

[101] No, if you don't speak up on these issues, you're part, you're just as bad.

[102] Jalen Brown of the Boston Celtics, Malcolm Brogden of the Indiana Pacers.

[103] We have a moment in time.

[104] People are going to look back.

[105] Our kids are going to look back at this and say, you are a part of that.

[106] There were so many players who really got involved at the forefront of the Black Lives Matter movement.

[107] Don't matter the color of your skin, where you from?

[108] I feel like justice will be served and changes will be made.

[109] You don't know the right side of the history, man. You know what?

[110] Black guys matter, baby.

[111] Let's go.

[112] And I think as time wore on, a majority of players basically came to the conclusion that by going to Walt Disney World and seizing upon the platform available, that that could actually amplify their message.

[113] Huh.

[114] That's really interesting.

[115] So in their minds, playing the sport, resuming the season would give them a bigger megaphone to talk about race, talk about police brutality.

[116] And so that becomes an incentive to revive the season.

[117] Ultimately, yes, that's where the majority of players, that's the place they ultimately reached.

[118] There's so much media coverage of the NBA.

[119] use the platform that a resumed NBA season would give by speaking out after games, after practices, to really broadcast their message.

[120] So with everyone on board, Mark, I wonder if you can set the scene for us of how this actually gets underway.

[121] Jay -1, I'm a trip to the bubble.

[122] The bubble, the bubble.

[123] So teams started arriving on July 7th.

[124] The top 22 teams in the league were invited to the restart.

[125] They arrived in shifts.

[126] Everybody got hell of bags.

[127] Literally going to live somewhere for three months.

[128] But basically, by the end of that week, you had more than 800 players, coaches, team staff members, ready to spill into the bubble.

[129] and embark on what's not only the most ambitious sporting experiment we've maybe ever seen in North American team sports, but also a grand social experiment as well.

[130] Hey, for one goal, though, we're in a championship, baby.

[131] We'll be right back.

[132] All right, let's see.

[133] How is that hotel bubbles look like?

[134] That's it?

[135] Oh my God.

[136] Lord help us.

[137] So Mark, take us inside of this bubble, Once the players arrive, what happens?

[138] This is my room.

[139] We got to stay in here to Saturday, 48 hours.

[140] The first thing is they had to get through their quarantines.

[141] First season.

[142] Game of Thrones, man. Started all over again.

[143] Basically, it required any player here to register two negative coronavirus tests, which took anywhere from 36 to 48 hours.

[144] I don't have a fork.

[145] Which was a new and widely.

[146] uncomfortable experience.

[147] Oh, maybe I'm supposed to use a lid as a spoon.

[148] No. Who do I call about this?

[149] And what happens once these players pass these tests and are out of quarantine?

[150] Well, priority number one was getting back into basketball shape after a layoff of four plus months with no team activities.

[151] But even so, that's only going to consume three, four hours a day tops.

[152] it left a lot of downtime to fill and nowhere to go.

[153] Tell me about the rules that are in operation for the players inside the bubble.

[154] So after the agreement was struck between the NBA and the Players Association to come back, the league assembled a 113 page PDF full of rules and restrictions that would govern bubble life.

[155] For example, if a socially distance card game take a. place for players on any team, they were required to dispose of that deck of cards when the card game was over.

[156] If players wanted to play ping pong, they could play singles, but not doubles.

[157] But the two biggies in that 113 pages are the daily testing for everyone on campus because the league believes that with no vaccine, daily testing essentially operates as the closest thing it has to a vaccine, but also no contact with the outside world.

[158] And for the NBA, that's an absolute.

[159] So Rishon Holmes of the Sacramento Kings, he was ordered to go back to quarantine for an extra 10 days.

[160] And the reason why?

[161] Because he arranged a food delivery that was unauthorized and crossed a border to pick up that food delivery order, which he later revealed to be an order of chicken wings.

[162] And when the league found out, Holmes was subjected to an extra 10 days of quarantine all by himself in his room.

[163] And that was kind of a message sent to everyone about how serious the league was taking the restrictions they had put in place.

[164] That is a very costly set of wings.

[165] Costly in the extreme, because I promise you, you do not want to get set back for extra days in quarantine.

[166] I would also say, the sense I get from a lot of players is they feel a great responsibility to their teams.

[167] Nobody wants to get themselves in a position where they're not able to play in a playoff game because they broke the rules.

[168] And Mark, what about you?

[169] How long have you been there now?

[170] 40 days, but who's counting?

[171] And what has your non -player experience been like?

[172] As a member of the media, it's probably most accurate to say that I live in a bubble within the bubble because there's really only one square mile of campus that media members are allowed to visit.

[173] There's a groundhog day element to this for media members because every morning starts the same.

[174] Let's see if I can get this done.

[175] Going to my health app right now.

[176] The first thing you have to do, when you wake up, you have to record your temperature and your oxygen saturation readings.

[177] Those have to be entered into a league -issued health app.

[178] All right.

[179] I am connected.

[180] I'm at 97 .9, so that's a good reading.

[181] My oxygen saturation is also, as it should be.

[182] You can't go anywhere in the bubble without those readings being inputted into a league -issued magic band, which is a thick gray wristband that we all wear like a watch.

[183] And you have to scan everywhere, any entry point in the bubble.

[184] Now it's time to go get my test.

[185] How are you doing?

[186] Right here?

[187] Oh yeah, I got to do the band.

[188] Sorry.

[189] Let's see.

[190] Let's see, Mark.

[191] What this entails is...

[192] Are you feeling this morning?

[193] I'm all right.

[194] Three very shallow swabs of the throat and one shallow swab of each nostril.

[195] That's it.

[196] Thank you.

[197] Thank you.

[198] You too.

[199] We also have proximity sensors that have to be charged overnight and that we connect to our credentials because if you spend more than 10 seconds within six feet of someone, as long as their proximity sensor is charged.

[200] and your proximity sensor is charged, those alarms will start to chirp after 10 seconds.

[201] And that's...

[202] This is amazing.

[203] That's a frequent occurrence on bus rides.

[204] We have to take buses from where the media is staying to the game venues.

[205] And our proximity sensors tend to create quite a symphony of chirping.

[206] And this is also true at post -game interviews because there's no way at a post -game interview to maintain six feet of distance between all the reporters there trying to get as close to the players as we're allowed to get.

[207] So there's a lot of chirping going on.

[208] Have you found yourself at all tempted to bend the rules?

[209] I can't imagine.

[210] You haven't.

[211] It's a challenge.

[212] There are certainly times when temptation strikes.

[213] There was actually one time where I was going to cover an Orlando magic practice on a Sunday morning, and I was outside the magic's practice waiting for admittance.

[214] And I was near the Boston Celtics meal room where they were being served a glorious Sunday morning breakfast from a big hotel resort breakfast station.

[215] And as lunch was approaching and they started breaking down the breakfast station, there was this very inviting tub full of crispy bacon that was clearly being taken away to.

[216] be disposed of.

[217] And I must confess, the thought did cross my mind.

[218] Do I risk it all here?

[219] Do I try to sneak over there and get some of that for myself before they take it all away?

[220] But I behaved, I refrained, and I'm pretty good at following the rules.

[221] You're talking to a bacon lover.

[222] So I very much appreciate this lure, this temptation you're describing.

[223] But with all these rules in place, all these monitoring systems, all this enforcement, and in your case, self -restraint, how effectively has all of this worked inside the bubble?

[224] The NBA would tell you that so far, their expectations have been exceeded.

[225] They're cautiously optimistic that this ambitious plan is working.

[226] Teams started getting here on July 7th.

[227] Actual games began on July 30th.

[228] The playoffs began Monday, August 17th, and players obviously are not wearing masks on the floor.

[229] They're playing basketball as they normally would in very close proximity, sweating all over each other, and the league to this point has returned no confirmed positive tests.

[230] So so far, more than 40 days in, it's working.

[231] I have to say that that's pretty astonishing.

[232] It is surprising.

[233] But I think it also, those numbers reinforce what the NBA believe, that if you didn't take the extreme measures that they've taken, there was no chance at establishing a record like that.

[234] But Mark, do you feel like people inside the bubble, especially the players and the staff and the coaches, the people this is really designed to protect, do you find them grappling with this question of essentially the kind of elite nature of this separateness that they have created?

[235] I mean, because outside of that bubble, especially in the state of Florida and beyond, is a world of tremendous suffering in this moment and exposure to this virus and in high transmission rates and inside is this truly sealed off protected zone of very wealthy athletes.

[236] I don't think there's any question that for the league, there is an optics component here that is uncomfortable.

[237] I can't really speak for the players, but I know I feel it personally.

[238] When I landed here on July 12th, Florida had just recorded a single -day state record for positive cases.

[239] And then as a reporter, I'm being ushered inside a bubble So for me, getting tested every day, it is a little bit uncomfortable on some levels.

[240] And this does come at a great expense for the NBA.

[241] The latest estimate I received was $180 million for the league to operate the campus.

[242] And not every organization in the world is in position to spend that kind of money to do that.

[243] Right.

[244] I mean, not at all.

[245] I think it's pretty fitting that we keep calling this the bubble.

[246] It is a bubble.

[247] And it's very fitting that this was constructed inside the magical kingdom because there is something kind of fantasy -like about what you're describing.

[248] And it does not feel replicable for the rest of us.

[249] It feels like something that can be done only by a highly profitable sport and very well -off athletes.

[250] Yeah, it's really the NBA's version of, It's a small world.

[251] It's unprecedented.

[252] It's historic.

[253] And that's why as a journalist who's covered this league for almost 30 years, I had to be here to see it.

[254] But when you look at it critically, it also hits home.

[255] What a dire state this country is in.

[256] And the lengths that the NBA has to go to, just to get to the finish line of this season, You know, I have a 17 -year -old and a 14 -year -old, and it's quite clear that there isn't going to be a magical bubble that can be created to get them back in their classrooms this fall.

[257] And that's a realization that being here hits you every day.

[258] This village that the NBA has built, it's not something that can be readily duplicated.

[259] It's not something that's going to be available to the masses.

[260] that so badly need it.

[261] Moremark, thank you very much, and we'll see you whenever it is you leave the bubble.

[262] Thanks for having me. The first round of the NBA playoffs will continue today, with four games scheduled inside of the bubble.

[263] We'll be right back.

[264] Here's what else you need to know today.

[265] On Thursday, federal officials arrested Steve Bannon, a former top advisor to President Trump and the architect of his 2016 election victory on charges of stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars from donors.

[266] Those donors believed that they were funding the president's signature initiative of building a wall along the U .S. border with Mexico.

[267] Instead, according to the charges, Bannon used much of the money for personal expenses.

[268] becoming the elitist Trump advisor to be charged with a crime.

[269] And...

[270] Good evening.

[271] Ella Baker, a giant of the civil rights movement, left us with this wisdom.

[272] Give people light.

[273] And they will find the way.

[274] Give people light.

[275] Those are words for our time.

[276] The current president has cloaked American darkness for much too long.

[277] long.

[278] Too much anger.

[279] Too much fear.

[280] Too much division.

[281] During the fourth and final night of the Democratic National Convention, Joe Biden formally accepted his party's nomination for president, promising to end what he described as a dark and deadly chapter in American history.

[282] Here and now, I give you my word.

[283] If you entrust me with the presidency, I will draw on the best of us, not the worst.

[284] I'll be an ally of the light, not the darkness.

[285] Biden said he was prepared for a presidency that would confront four crises, a virus widespread unemployment, a racial reckoning, and climate change at once, and pledged to restore honor and decency to the White House.

[286] You know, American history tells us, that it's been in our darkest moments that we've made our greatest progress, that we found the light.

[287] And this dark woman, I believe we're poised to make great progress again.

[288] That we can find the light once more.

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