59 - Live At The Wilbur

[0] This is exactly right.

[1] Hey, this is exciting.

[2] An all -new season of only murders in the building is coming to Hulu on August 27th.

[3] Steve Martin, Martin Short, and Selena Gomez are back as your favorite podcaster, detectives.

[4] But there's a mystery hanging over everyone.

[5] Who killed Saz?

[6] And were they really after Charles?

[7] Why would someone want to kill Charles?

[8] This season, murder hits close to home.

[9] With a threat against one of their own, the stakes are higher than ever.

[10] Plus, the gang is going to Hollywood to turn their podcast into a major movie.

[11] Amid the glitz and glamour of Los Angeles, more mysteries and twists arise.

[12] Who knows what will happen once the cameras start to roll?

[13] Get ready for the stariest season yet with Merrill Streep, Zach Alfinacus, Eugene Levy, Eva Longoria, Melissa McCarthy, DeVey, DeVey, Joy Randolph, Molly Shannon, and more.

[14] Only Martyrs in the Building, premieres August 27th, streaming only on Hulu.

[15] Goodbye.

[16] Do it!

[17] You have to do it.

[18] Oh, my God.

[19] This is terrifying.

[20] There's an orchestra pick Keeping you guys from us They never let you guys this close I know We had a...

[21] On all our other tour stops Hi Boston!

[22] I don't know if anyone's up there We're just waving at the roof Yeah No, they're there I thought you've flipped them off I just saw someone leave to go to the bathroom Oh yeah, yeah, yeah Or they couldn't handle it Nope Thought this was get out So they did And they did So they did Hi.

[23] Hi, everybody.

[24] Hey, hi.

[25] This is, thank you.

[26] Us too.

[27] This is a lot, this is a lot, and it's fucking right here.

[28] I know.

[29] I don't know why.

[30] It's not like we're ballerinas, we're so used to the orchestra, but, uh.

[31] It looks like, yeah, it's exciting.

[32] What were we going to talk?

[33] Well, first we do outfit show.

[34] Ready?

[35] Right.

[36] Yeah.

[37] Just take it around.

[38] Don't be afraid to do.

[39] take it around in a circle.

[40] I don't have pockets, but I had a tissue put in here because I have allergies earlier and it looked great and I lost it.

[41] Grandma?

[42] Always have four tissues up her sleeve, like the worst magician of all time.

[43] I need to do that.

[44] This is the dress that I wore, that I got in Chicago that I wore in our very first live show.

[45] Right.

[46] I mean, you don't have to scream for that.

[47] but I went schnapping yesterday and I picked out almost the exact same dress by the same person the whole thing, it's just like the sleeves were this much shorter and I was like, I'm just fucking wearing that old dress.

[48] Yep, I'm wearing a Jessica Simpson tonight, thank you.

[49] You don't have to be blonde to like bad fashion.

[50] I need to stop wearing dresses with any kind of flare because then I can't, well, in my mind I can't re -wear them.

[51] Oh.

[52] Because it's, you know what I mean?

[53] Like, I have, fuck it, I have 400 dresses.

[54] Yeah, it's just, well, you have enough to choose from, though.

[55] Yeah, but not black ones.

[56] I'm like, colors.

[57] And like, I'm like, what's her name from Three's Company?

[58] The neighbor.

[59] Chrissy.

[60] Oh, the slutty neighbor?

[61] Mrs. Roper.

[62] Oh, Mrs. Roper.

[63] Yeah, Mrs. Roper, the slutty, slut neighbor.

[64] No, in the later seasons, there was a slutty neighbor who wanted to fuck Jack constantly.

[65] Oh, please.

[66] And it was this, it used to, embarrass me as a child when he'd open the door and it'd be, what was her name, Janice?

[67] Lana.

[68] Lana.

[69] Is that correct?

[70] Or you're just yelling slut names?

[71] All the Lana's in here, but you kind of knew already.

[72] Jack would open the door and then she'd be like, hello Jack.

[73] And I'd be like, dial it back.

[74] They like it when you don't like them.

[75] I didn't know that because of TV shows from the 80s or it's like, here I am, take it.

[76] I'm like, wow.

[77] I also brought my only nice heels that I own that I wore one time almost a year ago at my wedding that still had like glitter on the upside down of them on the heel and then I got to I took him out of the hotel and I was like absolutely literally not I'm not doing this so I have flats on because what the fuck I'm not a fucking you're basically wearing those socks that you wear under slip on shoes right yeah and I'm sure they smell and they're like...

[78] You could slip another pair of shoes on top of those shoes if you felt like it.

[79] You just kind of blew my mind and now I'm like, oh, well I could wear them though because no one would know the difference.

[80] Exactly right.

[81] It wasn't a slam.

[82] My life is better.

[83] Especially because coming from this area where just a quick negative shout out to my sister Laura who after seeing us at the Oakland show which was our first stop on this tour yeah a shout out to Oakland she texted and said I thought the show is great, but you have to get rid of those tights you're wearing.

[84] What's what's wrong with your tights?

[85] This is what it is to have an older sister.

[86] So then I was like, I'm not if I'm going to get those are the tithes I'm like, whatever.

[87] And then of course, that's the first thing I bought yesterday.

[88] I was like, do you have any very sheer?

[89] My sister needs to see me in a sheer tight.

[90] Control top would be great.

[91] Control top.

[92] Whatever price.

[93] I'll pay whatever price.

[94] And so then that's what I did.

[95] Now I look like I look like an orphan child that's been in the ash bin that's not I do this isn't my jam at all so once I saw how sheer the tights were I was like well I'm not wearing heels now fuck everything I'm going to cloggedown right this tour is now called we don't give a shit about shoes my favorite murder story is there enough time to get that on the shirts Joe please Can we get, Stephen, can you go ahead and, go ahead, Stephen, and get him with us sometimes.

[96] He'll edit this, though, and that part will mean the world to him.

[97] Yeah.

[98] I texted him, and I was like, you know, we were like edits on this, and then I was like, hey, you know, we talk a lot of shit to you, and I just want to make sure you know that we're joking and it's funny because you're the most amazing fucking person.

[99] And we'll, but we'll die back if you like, if it's like hurting your feelings.

[100] He's like, no, I love it.

[101] Of course he was.

[102] Like, no, it's great.

[103] We had a really great bit going on the Lost episode, the Vancouver Lost episode, which just didn't get recorded for some reason.

[104] And the whole thing was, I think it was Vancouver.

[105] It was about how Stephen was hiding underneath the curtain, this tablecloth.

[106] Mixer.

[107] Sitting there with his mic.

[108] Super nerd.

[109] Oh, maybe one.

[110] There was a cat, and there was a random cat under there?

[111] Yes, there was just a cat he found in the alley, and he's just stroking his mustache listening to the live episode live.

[112] He really does that.

[113] Have you noticed?

[114] He does.

[115] He does this.

[116] He's a bit of a nervous now.

[117] So he does a little bit of this, you know, he has a little bit of this, which is like, he's halfway to one of these, like, whimsical facial hair guys.

[118] Yeah.

[119] Oh, let's talk about ice cream.

[120] Okay.

[121] Hard left turn?

[122] Yeah.

[123] Steven, ice cream.

[124] I want to shit on Stephen for at least ten minutes.

[125] Okay.

[126] Ice cream it is.

[127] We, so we got a gift backstage of ice cream.

[128] It says, hi, Karen and Georgia.

[129] Love the show.

[130] So I made you a flavor at my company.

[131] It's called Elvis want a cookie, bacon, banana bacon, peanut butter cookie, butter.

[132] Sorry, Karen, there's sugar in it, sad face.

[133] Oh, that's okay.

[134] I'm eating sugar again.

[135] Yeah.

[136] Yeah.

[137] Thanks, you guys.

[138] Stay sexy Jacqueline.

[139] And it's called the parlor ice cream.

[140] Have you guys been there?

[141] Jacqueline.

[142] Fucking good.

[143] Just really quick.

[144] Banana, bacon.

[145] Oh, I said it enough.

[146] Peanut butter cookie butter.

[147] That's what we ate backstage.

[148] That's why we're really excited to be here.

[149] Sugar!

[150] It's so good.

[151] It's so good.

[152] It is.

[153] It's named after my fucking cat, ma 'am.

[154] Bring us presents if you want us to talk about you.

[155] I'm reading the Elizabeth's smart autobiography called My Story.

[156] Did you say biography?

[157] Nope.

[158] Autobiography?

[159] She's all, well, here's the thing.

[160] That's an in -the -room joke.

[161] Nobody at home is going to get it.

[162] that if they listen to this.

[163] The black tell you writing her autobiography.

[164] Thank you.

[165] I'm riding in my car and why are they laughing?

[166] I feel left out.

[167] Now I'm angry at a podcast.

[168] I better take to social media and tell them exactly how I feel.

[169] Gosh, I wish they understood.

[170] Sorry, sorry.

[171] No, I don't care.

[172] Truly.

[173] Oh yeah, so if you ever want to not, if you ever want to feel bad about feeling bad about your life, and then just read the Elizabeth Smart story.

[174] The girl got kidnapped in Utah and, like, lived as this guy's wife as a kid.

[175] This whole time I thought you were talking about Elizabeth Short, the Black Dahlia.

[176] Missing something.

[177] Shit, you were.

[178] You were missing the fact that I didn't get what you were talking about.

[179] I thought I said the wrong thing.

[180] Word again for a thing.

[181] So I was like, yeah.

[182] Don't understand.

[183] Stephen, edit that out.

[184] Stephen, that never happened.

[185] Now do you think it's funny if it's the Black Dahlia writing her on the phone?

[186] You knew that was funnier than you were giving it.

[187] Yeah, and you look like her.

[188] I was totally in the wrong on that one.

[189] I'm so sorry.

[190] I'm so glad I clarified who she was.

[191] She got kidnapped, and she wrote her own story about it, and fuck, she is like, man, maybe it's because she's into God and stuff, but she's like, so strong.

[192] And it makes me like, okay, I'll talk to this guy if it's like going to make me not settle my couch and have anxiety all day about, like, about the vacuum.

[193] No. Well, don't you think it's like she's got a little perspective.

[194] Exactly.

[195] Yes.

[196] It comes.

[197] Those things come hand in hand.

[198] A little bit.

[199] So I'm going to steal some of hers.

[200] Yes.

[201] And then I'm going to use it to my advantage just to make money.

[202] Is that what that's for?

[203] Okay.

[204] That's what books are for.

[205] Hi.

[206] Plain ride.

[207] Guys, we have a thing to tell you.

[208] We upgraded to first class on the way out here.

[209] I'm sorry.

[210] I'm sorry, Mom.

[211] I know it's wrong.

[212] No, it's not.

[213] I flew my dad, coach, and I flew first class.

[214] I tell you where to sit now, Dad.

[215] It's my money.

[216] I can do what I don't know what I want with it.

[217] I gave him, I got an extra leg room, you know, the little, you know.

[218] He's fine.

[219] He's fine.

[220] He's had a great time.

[221] He's not here.

[222] We, on the other hand, had smoked pear yogurt tasters.

[223] Right when we sat down.

[224] Oh, my God.

[225] give you food.

[226] They give you food and it's so embarrassing because I so didn't know how to do it that I was like I'll have the smoked pair of yogurt taste or and they're like yeah everybody gets them.

[227] Great, I'm going to keep pretending that I know how this pod works.

[228] And then I got up to the bathroom and I made Karen face and then she goes, did you have the sandwich?

[229] And the sandwich thing and I was, yeah.

[230] It was, I'm sorry they did it right though because it was a biscuit, like breakfast sandwich on a biscuit with, right, with it's scrambled eggs, some kind of chicken patty sausage, and then pimento cheese.

[231] No, Aunt Carol, yes, I'm telling you.

[232] At first I was like, this is the worst Thanksgiving ever, and then I ate it, and I was like, you're geniuses.

[233] It's like those cheese, pub cheese.

[234] Yes.

[235] Oh, I would eat pub cheese for the rest of my way.

[236] Yeah.

[237] Oh, yeah.

[238] Should we sit down?

[239] Sure.

[240] Do you want to talk?

[241] What else do you want to say?

[242] I feel like there was one other thing, but it doesn't matter.

[243] Oh, oh, I remember when I went and brought you coffee, I went to Starbucks, I don't just, I'm not her assistant.

[244] I'm just going to note right now.

[245] I'm not Steven when we travel.

[246] I'm just a good person and was like...

[247] Again, he won't mind.

[248] Yeah.

[249] He's like, yeah, I get them caught.

[250] He brings Karen to Diet Coke every week we record.

[251] It's the key...

[252] Without even asking, I know.

[253] No. He steals it from his work.

[254] Don't tell them.

[255] Thanks, Luke Crate.

[256] Just kidding, Stephen.

[257] You can edit that.

[258] Edit that out, Stephen.

[259] Don't lose your job, Stephen, because we're not paying you enough yet.

[260] We will.

[261] Don't worry.

[262] He'll get some kind of massive cut in the end.

[263] We both die.

[264] He'll inherit the house or whatever.

[265] I think we've said a lot of that on the podcast.

[266] Like, if you don't get anything or you get everything, I don't remember.

[267] Anyways, so I'm a good person and brought you coffee.

[268] Yes.

[269] And then you open the door and I hand you the coffee and you're like, I have to finish my murder.

[270] And I was like, okay, bye.

[271] And I was like, okay, bye.

[272] And I was like, God, if someone in the fucking hallway heard that?

[273] Just some old lady stepping out to go to some kind of a museum or cemetery or whatever you guys have here.

[274] Georgia, just give me the coffee.

[275] I have to finish this murder.

[276] I can't tell people, like, the normal, really sweet, normal guy in the plane next to me, I was like, what are you doing in town?

[277] Which, you know, and I was like, I'm here for a shut thing.

[278] And I couldn't be like, I love murder.

[279] So it's like really normal guy.

[280] We laugh and laugh about murder.

[281] Love it.

[282] I have to finish my murder.

[283] I mean, I kind of wish someone would hear that.

[284] Okay, now should we sit down?

[285] Thank you.

[286] I know it's sitting as fun.

[287] Oh.

[288] That's better.

[289] Yeah, I don't know.

[290] My spanks, my spanks are fighting a losing battle.

[291] There's no like, it's very, we, we ask for specifically this setup, and I don't know why.

[292] Like, we're like, could you, could you, like, dangle us on a precipice for an hour?

[293] So that we just feel weird.

[294] I don't want it to be bigger than a quarter.

[295] Like, I don't want the table to be bigger than, what's a funny thing?

[296] Than me. Yeah.

[297] And my ass.

[298] I want any room to put things on it.

[299] I need to feel petite, so the table has to be Barbie -sized.

[300] Please.

[301] Please.

[302] And then let's get those chairs.

[303] Like, the first time we had these chairs, and I was wearing high heels, I was like, I'm going to fall off this chair.

[304] Yeah.

[305] And now that we're five in, I've gotten okay used to it, but...

[306] We got to think of something.

[307] We got to think.

[308] Well, this is our first time with graphics.

[309] What do they call?

[310] Yeah, check it out.

[311] No one's had this before.

[312] Yeah, we've never done that.

[313] Go ahead, look at it.

[314] I didn't look at it before.

[315] Take it in.

[316] That's my name right there.

[317] That's my name right there.

[318] Oh, yeah.

[319] This is my favorite murder, by the way.

[320] I'm the other one.

[321] Why did I reach up in a dress like this?

[322] I was walking on the street.

[323] Tonight?

[324] Just tonight?

[325] Yeah, just tonight.

[326] Around the corner.

[327] I really was.

[328] And then I saw it like, and then I like saw the corner of my eye.

[329] Like I recognized the thing.

[330] and I looked up and it was the front of the thing with the projector on it.

[331] Well, you and me. I know.

[332] It was sold out really big.

[333] And so I went in the street and took a photo of it.

[334] I'm so excited.

[335] Thank you, by the way.

[336] Thank you for selling us out.

[337] Yeah.

[338] That's very nice.

[339] Thank you.

[340] Hasn't gotten old yet.

[341] Imagine if we were here on Theater Row and everybody, like, the Blue Man Group and everybody just pitied us, they were just like, did you hear they sold 15 tickets?

[342] Or just said not sold out.

[343] Super available.

[344] Right down in front.

[345] Buy one, get one free.

[346] Hey, this is exciting.

[347] An all new season of only murders in the building is coming to Hulu on August 27th.

[348] Steve Martin, Martin Short, and Selena Gomez are back as your favorite podcaster, detectives.

[349] But there's a mystery hanging over everyone.

[350] Who killed Saz?

[351] And were they really after Charles?

[352] Why would someone want to kill Charles?

[353] Charles.

[354] This season, murder hits close to home.

[355] With a threat against one of their own, the stakes are higher than ever.

[356] Plus, the gang is going to Hollywood to turn their podcast into a major movie.

[357] Amid the glitz and glamour of Los Angeles, more mysteries and twists arise.

[358] Who knows what'll happen once the cameras start to roll?

[359] Get ready for the stariest season yet with Merrill Streep, Zach Alfinacus, Eugene Levy, Eva Longoria, Melissa McCarthy, DeVine, Joy Randolph, Molly Shannon, and more.

[360] Only murders in the building, premieres August 27th.

[361] on Hulu.

[362] Goodbye.

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[380] Also, some people might be off count.

[381] This is the dumbest thing in the world.

[382] Our irresponsibility has become like a fun game for people.

[383] Or like our like total lack of really almost interest in our own project.

[384] But also when we were on the road, we switched it up one night and I swear to God, where were you?

[385] I think that might have been Seattle.

[386] People were not happy where they're like, it's Georgia's turn.

[387] We're like, okay.

[388] All righty I mean It's a joke Like we don't know It's nobody's turn It's everyone's turn Think about it It's everyone's turn It doesn't exist Fuck All of it Okay I'll go first This is the Welcome to my favorite murder Sorry sorry sorry Sorry sorry sorry sorry Sorry sorry sorry sorry No that was good That's Karen I'm George All right.

[389] This is the murder of Molly Bish.

[390] Oh.

[391] It's fucked up.

[392] Half of people are upset.

[393] Half of them are excited.

[394] No one's excited, excited.

[395] It's the same feeling I have where I go, I fucking seen this one four times.

[396] Tell me about it.

[397] Oh, I bet I know.

[398] I remember this part.

[399] Yes.

[400] All right.

[401] Well, I did some digging and I came up with some, I compiled some suspects.

[402] You solved the case?

[403] I solved the case.

[404] Okay, summer of 2000, Molly Bish is working as a lifeguard at Commons Pond in Warren.

[405] Who's from there?

[406] Nobody.

[407] Is Warren shitty?

[408] Everyone's like, ugh.

[409] Well, that's what she...

[410] Okay, so her mom is dropping her off at a shift for her lifeguard duty.

[411] And again, she's 16 years old.

[412] and the mom sees a mustached man in a white sedan in the parking lot of their life.

[413] No heckling, but that was really good.

[414] We usually don't let somebody down in the orchestra pit was like, Stephen?

[415] Composite.

[416] It might be Stephen.

[417] He really is shaping up to be a real sexual offender.

[418] Facial hair -wise.

[419] But that before Stephen gets it, please.

[420] The loveliest person in the world, but facial hair -wise, very suspicious.

[421] Oh, what a baby.

[422] He can never sit in a sedan ever again.

[423] You know how he loves sitting in sedans, too.

[424] He loves to go park in a parking lot.

[425] Yeah.

[426] Can't do it.

[427] Says it relaxes him.

[428] Okay.

[429] All right.

[430] The mom sees a mustachioed man in a white sedan in the parking lot of the beach area where Molly's post was located.

[431] And the mom was like, what the fuck the guy's shady?

[432] And so she waits till the guy drives away.

[433] And then the next day, you know, she hadn't thought of it.

[434] But the next day, she goes to drop her up, and she kind of does a little check and he's not there.

[435] So she's like, great, and leaves her.

[436] And we know that Molly made it to her lifeguard stand because a witness saw her at 10 .07 a .m., but by the time the first group of swimmers got to the beach around 10 .15, Molly was already gone, missing.

[437] Hours later, police contacted Molly's mom, informing her that no lifeguard had been on duty all day, which has to be a fucking awful call.

[438] And that Molly's belongings had been left unattended at her station.

[439] The only clue, like her flip -flops were there and everything, the only clue was that the first aid kit that was by the chair was open, and it made police speculate that someone had, someone asked Molly for assistance and was like, do you have a thing?

[440] And she went to look for it and then, you know.

[441] Ted Bundy style, like, oh, my arm is broken.

[442] Can you open your first aid kit?

[443] Totally.

[444] So the mom was like, this fucking creepy man was here yesterday and made me creep.

[445] creeped out and so Maggie the mom tells someone what he looks like and they draw a composite sketch of him and they say the man is the best lead and witnesses came forward and said that they saw a similar white car in the parking lot moments before Molly and the mom arrived the day Molly disappeared and so police produced a composite sketch oh you guys like that oh I didn't It's Stephen Ray Morris, Sr. I thought people were freaked out by the word composite sketch.

[446] I know.

[447] They like the way you pronounced it?

[448] Yeah, wrong.

[449] Crete.

[450] Oh, I don't want to see that guy anywhere.

[451] I know.

[452] I don't want to see that guy anywhere.

[453] I know.

[454] That's malice in the eyes.

[455] Yeah.

[456] That's what she said.

[457] He looked cocky, she said.

[458] Right?

[459] Okay.

[460] Sorry, hold on.

[461] I think the visual aids are really adding a huge element to this show.

[462] Why didn't...

[463] Whose idea?

[464] Was it you?

[465] I think it was Joe, our tour manager and Stephen.

[466] Joe and Stephen producing the shit out of the show.

[467] We're like, all we need is a tiny table in some uncomfortable chairs, and we're fine.

[468] Well, maybe people want to see things.

[469] We just need you to whittle down a normal -sized table and then get us really high cocktail chairs.

[470] I'll take care of the bad nylons.

[471] Whatever else you feel like doing, you can go ahead and do it.

[472] Great, great.

[473] Okay, then began what became the largest and most expensive search for a missing person ever undertaken in Massachusetts, but no clues were ever found.

[474] Until late fall of 2002, a hunter is in the woods, and he sees a blue bathing suit on Whiskey Hill in Palmer.

[475] Anyone?

[476] Anyone?

[477] No. Cool.

[478] No, you can't cheer if you just recognize it.

[479] They're like, yeah, someone probably lives there.

[480] I've seen Palmer.

[481] Yeah, Emerson, Lakin, I love that boom.

[482] You rolled your eyes at your own reference just now.

[483] I do that.

[484] Jesus, that just came out of my mouth.

[485] That girl is something else.

[486] So the dude doesn't think anything of it, but he mentions it to his friend, and the friend is like, I'm, like, really smart, and I make the connection.

[487] He does it.

[488] His name is Tim McGu -Megu, nope.

[489] His name is Tim, and he makes the connection.

[490] We call him Tim Mickey.

[491] Tim Mickey, Mickey, Mickey G, Tim McG.

[492] The old sharp -eye Mick Timmy.

[493] That's what we call him.

[494] Yeah, all brainy -brain investigator.

[495] He contacts police.

[496] Whatever his name is, he contacts police.

[497] Then on June 9, 2003, day after my birthday, who gives a shit?

[498] Put it in your calendar.

[499] So it's two years after disappearing, Molly's body is found five miles from her family home.

[500] Yeah, so he had seen the blue bathing suit, and then fuck.

[501] There are three main suspects that I could find, and I'm going to list them in maybe they did it to, yeah, they totally did it, order.

[502] Yeah.

[503] So in 2007, a man named Robert Bruno, who's 54 is charged with an...

[504] It was like, that guy ran for Senate, and he was a Trump guy.

[505] I just thought I said it wrong again.

[506] That's what happened.

[507] That happened to us in Seattle.

[508] I fucking mentioned the detective that was investigating the Green River killer that Ted Bundy helped.

[509] I say the guy's name.

[510] The audience goes fucking berserk booing us.

[511] And I was like, well, that was a fun run.

[512] I guess we're not doing this anymore.

[513] He was some lunatic Republican, whatever.

[514] Yeah.

[515] I, there he is.

[516] I like that we're standing up like Victorian gentlemen for every fucking criminal that comes up.

[517] So Robert Bruno, he's 54.

[518] He looks like the sketch, kind of, right?

[519] Well, he's got those eyes.

[520] Jesus Christ.

[521] And a mustache.

[522] And this is when he's older, too, so it could be very different.

[523] So he had been charged with annoying, he's charged with annoying and accosting a person of the opposite sex she's like dude and assault with a dangerous weapon a car so was he like just pulling up and tapping her with the bumper I ever know hey hey hey what's going on actually yeah this chick is this young woman is running on Brumfield's little alum road and he keeps trying to pin her against the guardware with his car.

[524] Yeah, you can't pepper spray a car.

[525] I mean...

[526] What do you fucking do?

[527] But she got away, like a badass.

[528] I feel like that's really unfair.

[529] I know.

[530] Right?

[531] To try to pin someone with your car when they're just a jogger.

[532] That's when you have the least amount of clothes on.

[533] Yeah.

[534] Like at least...

[535] Yeah.

[536] At least get near enough that I could maybe pepper spray you.

[537] She got away.

[538] She got away.

[539] She got away.

[540] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[541] So the only connection that is known of is that Berno's brother lives about 3 .2 miles from where Molly was found.

[542] And he's fucking assaulting a woman.

[543] He had lived in the town of Agawam.

[544] Say it again, I'm sorry.

[545] So you fucking know that one, but you know the other ones are easy to fucking say.

[546] That's cool.

[547] Thank you.

[548] I'm truly embarrassed about that one.

[549] I mean, there's so many things to choose from.

[550] Why pick that?

[551] Please.

[552] I am from Southern California so hard.

[553] There's just no way.

[554] I find that what helps with the Boston accent is if you put your shoulders up and squint your eyes, like, Worcester.

[555] I don't know why.

[556] Can I say, too, that two of the nicest people on the street help me with something, that in L .A., they would have yelled at me for, I'd, like, dropped something, and, like, two people were like, hey, like, ran me down, and we're so...

[557] And I was being a fucking idiot and, like, looking at my phone, like, a dick.

[558] Like, it was totally me being...

[559] Anyways, they were really nice, so thanks, Boston.

[560] That was just a sidebar anecdote about something that happened?

[561] I just want to say how nice everyone is, even though they scream names at me. I thought you were going to be, like, how they came up to you with their accents or something.

[562] Oh, they had, yeah, they had, like, the best accents, too.

[563] Do it.

[564] No. Come on.

[565] I'm not going to offend them again.

[566] They don't care.

[567] They love it.

[568] You dropped your books.

[569] My mother saw you drop your books.

[570] Something like that?

[571] Theater school.

[572] Years and years of theater school.

[573] Maybe later.

[574] I'm sweating.

[575] 3 .2 miles from where Molly is found.

[576] He had lived in the town of Agawam.

[577] It's a call -and -repeat.

[578] Where 24 -year -old Lisa Zygart was...

[579] Fuck, man. Ziegert.

[580] I just wish you guys would all come to my house and I'll yell fucking names at you.

[581] It's Kilgariff with an A. It's flat A. Hard Stark.

[582] Fuck.

[583] Georgia.

[584] No, it's Georgia.

[585] Karen.

[586] It's really easy.

[587] You didn't get it wrong.

[588] I can't yell at you about that.

[589] Okay, so Lisa was abducted from her part -time job at a card shop on April 15th, 1992, and a gawam.

[590] She's doing it on purpose now.

[591] She's doing it for attention.

[592] I am.

[593] It's about 30 miles from Warren.

[594] It's Warren.

[595] Sorry.

[596] Now let her tell the story.

[597] I wish she wouldn't.

[598] Lisa's body was discovered in a wooded area four days.

[599] after she was abducted and she'd been stabbed to death.

[600] Poor baby, I know.

[601] We were just having so much fun.

[602] So, can we bring it back, fucking down?

[603] Let's bring it all the way down.

[604] A little alum road where Bruno attempted to accost the jogger is about five miles from Commons Pond where Molly was abducted.

[605] Yeah, and also...

[606] You're getting one of those things like, if it was a procedural, there would be like a pin with a piece of thread.

[607] And then someone making a circle with it.

[608] Yeah.

[609] No, if I were a professional, there'd be a fucking map right here.

[610] I mean, could you imagine a map with circles on it, red and green, whatnot?

[611] I was gonna.

[612] I really thought about it.

[613] Are you serious?

[614] Yeah.

[615] Like designing some kind of a map circle?

[616] Yeah, but, you know.

[617] You had to curl that hair.

[618] You know, this hair doesn't curl itself.

[619] Girl stuff.

[620] And then, oh, and also his mugshot resembles the person.

[621] the mother saw, and she said that the similarities between them are frightening, quote.

[622] All right.

[623] Suspect number two.

[624] In November 2011, Gerald Bassetoni, Gerald.

[625] Gerald.

[626] What is wrong with you?

[627] You're so sweaty.

[628] Let's get this dry clean.

[629] Take it out of my...

[630] Shit.

[631] How many dudes look this evil in this air?

[632] Like, it doesn't, but it does.

[633] Like, look at those eyes.

[634] Those eyes.

[635] Look at that pout, like the, that grimace, the mean.

[636] It's him.

[637] It's fucking him, huh?

[638] Also, those are the same eyes of every, like, 58 -year -old woman in Beverly Hills.

[639] That's what it looks like when you get plastic surgery.

[640] Nobody ever believes you're younger.

[641] That's some bloat right there.

[642] You just look like a potential murderer.

[643] That's some fucking, that's some hardcore naughty light bloat.

[644] happening right there.

[645] I think it's him.

[646] Look at them.

[647] Look at the, in the middle of his eyes, the brow furrow?

[648] Yeah.

[649] Dude.

[650] If I could do anything with computers, what I would do right now is an animated gift that draws on that mustache on that picture.

[651] Kind of real sketch.

[652] I love when they take the two, the real picture and the sketch, and they go, soop, and you're like, oh my God, but it's not him even.

[653] You can be convinced of anything.

[654] Yeah.

[655] You're just like, The picture's blended, and it makes him guilty.

[656] Gerald.

[657] His name's Gerald.

[658] It's Gerald, yeah.

[659] He was a confidential informant for the Eastern Hampton County Narcotic Task Force, which he's a narc.

[660] Like, that doesn't mean he's like a good guy.

[661] Like, he was like a fucking got arrested and was like, I'll tell you everything.

[662] He's a fucking rat.

[663] He was a sole pigeon.

[664] Is that it?

[665] Now I'm doing New York.

[666] It doesn't, and I've lost my...

[667] We'll be there tomorrow.

[668] We'll be there tomorrow.

[669] Where did I go?

[670] Okay, so he's a jerk, and he's named as a suspect by a private detective, and he's served a prison sentence for repeatedly raping a teenage girl in the 1990s.

[671] I know, who I think it was his girlfriend's best friend's daughter.

[672] He's a fucking creep piece of shit.

[673] Okay, so he had a criminal record dating back to 1980, and he He had been in the area where Molly Bish's body was found and resembles the sketch.

[674] And then...

[675] Who doesn't?

[676] I mean, I spent my photo up there.

[677] Steve, he attempted suicide in prison by slitting his own throat after newspaper articles identified him as a potential suspect.

[678] Wait.

[679] I know, guilty as fun.

[680] But he's already in jail?

[681] In jail for something unrelated.

[682] It comes out in the paper and they're like...

[683] And now he's a shame.

[684] Yeah, I think he's there for the...

[685] no now he's like oh shit I absolutely did it goodbye you know what I mean yeah and you also don't I don't think you like slit your own throat like that's not a chill like I'm gonna make it look like I want to die like that's not a no you're you're out you're out of there you're giving it your best shot yeah so but unrelated to the suicide he died in November 2014 so you're saying he did it well that's number two that's number two And then finally, don't like, don't make me decide yet.

[686] Okay.

[687] This is like the dating, the worst dating game.

[688] Ever?

[689] Do you want the weasel -eyed bachelor number one?

[690] Now you can take the sketch guy.

[691] You can take the guy who's sketched out, but then he'll kill you.

[692] All right.

[693] So in 2009, last suspect, a woman named Crystal Morrison, who's 50, she's a former, former Warren local who's now living in Florida, she makes a series of really weird calls to her sister, Bonnie.

[694] And in the calls, Crystal is whispering and would bring up the topic of murder and repeatedly asked the name of Bonnie's bird, which was Molly.

[695] Like in a really weird, like, oh, what's her bird's name?

[696] Oh.

[697] To make her keep saying it.

[698] Trying to give her some kind of signal.

[699] Yeah.

[700] And the sisters found, the crystals found dead.

[701] And Bonnie, the sister who was on the phone, was like, tells Massachusetts authorities about her sister's boyfriend who ends up getting convicted for the murder of Crystal, Bonnie tells him that Rodney, where did I put his name?

[702] Rodney, he had lived in, this guy had lived in Southbridge, Massachusetts, a few miles.

[703] Fuck, I keep getting freaked out.

[704] No, it's that guy.

[705] Someone's like, I live in South Bridge, too.

[706] It's got to be this guy.

[707] That's that guy.

[708] I don't know.

[709] I think the other, well, yeah, yeah.

[710] It's this guy.

[711] I wish we could see his photo.

[712] This is 2009, I think.

[713] I wish we could see him and...

[714] I wish he would put a bunch of walnuts in his cheeks, so he would match that guy.

[715] Then we'd know.

[716] That's how we'd know.

[717] Let's give him a facelift in jail.

[718] You guys will all fan together.

[719] Start a Kickstarter.

[720] I'm sorry, but this is our new show where we just are like, look at pictures.

[721] Where people gasped at us, we freak out, and then we all turn and look at the photos.

[722] forget over and over, like lunatics.

[723] Over and over.

[724] All right.

[725] So, this psychopath, so he lived in the area a few miles from the town of Warren where Molly disappeared for more than 20 years and moved to Florida a year after Molly was murdered.

[726] Red flag.

[727] Yeah.

[728] He was known to have access to a white car, similar to the one seen the day before Molly's disappearance, and was known to fish in Commons Pond and hunt in the wood.

[729] where Molly's body had been found.

[730] New the area.

[731] New the fucking area.

[732] Multiple areas.

[733] And it wasn't until 2013, a further connection between them, between Molly and Rodney appeared.

[734] Weeks before her disappearance, in Southbridge, Molly, who lives in Warren, she actually took the classes for the certification for her lifeguard certificate.

[735] Oh, his name is Rodney Stranger, by the way.

[736] like stranger, like making a murderous stranger.

[737] Just an L away.

[738] What?

[739] Oh, oh.

[740] What was your thing?

[741] Nothing.

[742] Sorry.

[743] So she's taking her certification for lifeguarding, and it's in Southbridge, where he lives.

[744] And so his house is just three -tenths of a mile from the place where she takes her classes, which I think is the YMCA.

[745] So, like, he probably goes things out there, too.

[746] And then it's speculated that the two maybe met.

[747] There's a local coffee shop where everyone hangs out, and she's really friendly, out going, her parents said, and so if he was like chatting her up and they were talking and he's like, so what are you doing in town?

[748] And she's like, oh, I'm going to be a lifeguard.

[749] Oh, what are you going to go?

[750] Where are you?

[751] Oh, I go to Commons Pond.

[752] I fish there.

[753] You know what I mean?

[754] Maybe I'll come visit, you know?

[755] And then he comes up to her lifeguard stand.

[756] He's like, hey, remember me?

[757] I need a band -aid.

[758] And she's like, okay, because she fucking trusts him.

[759] Oh, it's my good friend from the cafe with the huge mustache and the worst eyes I've ever seen.

[760] I better help him.

[761] Yeah.

[762] Man. Ugh.

[763] Yeah.

[764] Yeah, so she maybe told him that.

[765] Then in September of last year, so just September 2016, enhanced DNA testing, quote, became available in September of, like, the DNA that they had.

[766] So detectives wanted to test it.

[767] 24 pieces of evidence collected during the investigation, additional evidence that had never been tested.

[768] It hasn't been tested yet, and the sister said she had not been told, items will be tested, but it came from the pond where Molly was last seen.

[769] So here's Molly Bish, a photo of her.

[770] I know.

[771] I had that flannel, I think.

[772] I know all those pictures of her.

[773] You just know that girl.

[774] I know.

[775] It's just that like you went to high school with that girl.

[776] Look at her choker.

[777] She has a necklace, like a hemp necklace.

[778] Wait, is this 1997?

[779] 2000.

[780] She is like the same thing when you're in Massachusetts, right?

[781] no you have to deal with it we have microphones she slammed you out of my fucking mouth that's my new laugh it's so charming isn't it neat yeah so hopefully they'll test that DNA and we'll get an update on this case and then Rodney Stringer who's clearly the fucking killer should we make a friendly wager on it I bet you $2 ,000 it's not no I'm just kidding I was like that's a lot of first class what it's one that's one that's one way let's all go to the the jail cell where he's in right now fucking beat it out of him what we're not a lot of saying noah shit like that oh because then they're like she incited people to oh there's 3 ,000 people even no there's not Stephen don't let me get arrested edit out any arrest or problem that I call it my life.

[782] Yeah, I saw that one, her mom is on one special that's heartbreaking.

[783] Because her mom, you know, you know, worked so hard to find her and was so active and it's very sad.

[784] There's also one of the, it's like the worst funny thing of all time.

[785] Do you guys know what I'm talking about?

[786] It's a news, it's a local news report and they are talking about this case, but when they go to put up that guy's picture Stranger, it's a picture of a hamster instead.

[787] What?

[788] I was not expecting that.

[789] It is so funny, terrible because the reporter, it's very sad and seriousness.

[790] It's well into the case.

[791] Who did that?

[792] Some fuck up in like the graphics department was like then we do the hamster story and it's like no, no, no, no. Thank God we don't have that yet.

[793] Yeah, arts are fucking spot on.

[794] I thought you were going to say it was like, it was the like vacation photos from the newscaster.

[795] No, that's worse.

[796] You have to look it up because it's hilarious, terrible.

[797] But also here's how I'm, you know, my early murderina, the first time somebody showed me that it was like in a writer's room.

[798] And instead of laughing at the hamster, I was like, I know the Molly Bish case.

[799] And then that's what I wanted to talk about.

[800] Just like that's actually an incredibly sad case because...

[801] I know.

[802] I hate when people like casually bring something up that has...

[803] But they don't even care about murder.

[804] And then you're like, oh, you know that it's crazy about that case?

[805] Is that this happened?

[806] And then they're like, oh, hey.

[807] Like, don't start it.

[808] You don't want to hear it.

[809] Vince was trying to help me find, like, a murder for New York.

[810] And then I was like, oh, that case is cool because...

[811] And then he was just like, I'm just giving you name.

[812] He was like, please stop telling me about bodies being found in fucking drums.

[813] Not like, you know.

[814] That's a...

[815] Oh, dear.

[816] That's a for, better, for worse.

[817] He agreed to bodies and drums.

[818] Listen, I have to watch wrestling sometimes.

[819] Yeah, that's right.

[820] That's love.

[821] Give and take.

[822] Murder wrestling.

[823] All right, you ready for this one?

[824] Yeah.

[825] Yeah.

[826] I got all of this off of a blog called I Did It for Jody.

[827] Have you read that?

[828] I've never seen it before.

[829] And it's a person that told this story really well, so most of this is fucking straight up.

[830] Plagiarism.

[831] But it's a really good true crime blog.

[832] Yeah.

[833] You should have a shout -out.

[834] So shout -out and full apologies.

[835] Don't sue me. I changed every fourth word.

[836] Okay.

[837] This is the case Boston's notorious case of the giggler.

[838] Do you know the giggler?

[839] Gigler.

[840] In California, we call them the giggler.

[841] All right.

[842] Like, they made that up for people who, to they can tell they're not from around here.

[843] That's right, it's a test.

[844] Yeah.

[845] We're like, there's actually no gigglea.

[846] At 1 .30 in the morning on June 13th, 1969, a call came through to the Boston PD switchboard, and the voice on the other line said, my dear, at the corner of Washington, that's the only I can't really do it Boston is really is truly the hardest accent you can tell yes you should be very proud of that high fives all around there's nothing worse than when a movie is set in Boston and there are people who are bad actors in that movie thank you Boston don't worry we don't think that fucking any of these people sound like that well also it's just like get fucking Matt Damon if you can't get somebody that can do the act.

[847] I'm sure they have actors in Boston.

[848] There's so many Afflecks that want to be in this business.

[849] Pull them in.

[850] Get him in there.

[851] No, I know, right?

[852] We all have opinions, everybody.

[853] So the guy on the other line at the Boston P .D. switchboard says, my dear, at the corner of Washington, I'm not trying to be in a movie right now.

[854] The corner of Washington and Neeland Streets in a construction site, there'll be a man down in the water dead.

[855] Then he identified himself as the giggler, cackled like a maniac, and hung up.

[856] Oh, can you imagine, like, having to go home that night after taking that call?

[857] And be like, I talk to the biggest nerd in Boston tonight.

[858] You're not going to fucking name yourself.

[859] Yes, he must have, like, loved Batman or something.

[860] I'd be like, I want to kill people, but I'm also super nerd.

[861] You just heard from the giggler.

[862] It's so hard to fake laugh anyway.

[863] It's hard to giggle.

[864] Yeah.

[865] And also you're a man. How would you do it?

[866] That sounds right.

[867] I bet she was not so much scared as she was so, so sad for him.

[868] So when the police arrived at that location, which is a square in the middle of a place, called, these guys know it, I don't know, Georgia.

[869] If you know it, it's called the combat zone.

[870] So it's a dirty, dirty, dirty place here in Boston.

[871] I bet it's not anymore.

[872] And then it fucking turns into a strip show.

[873] Uh -uh, uh, uh, uh -huh, uh -huh, uh -huh, uh -huh.

[874] Why would it?

[875] Take.

[876] Stephen crawls out in a gold lemay bikini bottom.

[877] Go, go.

[878] No touching, no touching.

[879] I don't know why we're stripping all of a sudden.

[880] Fuck, we're in the comments.

[881] combat zone, dude.

[882] Got it.

[883] All right.

[884] That changes my whole experience.

[885] So somewhere nearby here, they find a dead man who is submerged with his skull crushed in a water -filled ditch.

[886] So this man, his name was Joe Breen, and according to his friends, he had spent his last night on earth drinking at a bar called the novelty.

[887] I doubt.

[888] This place is...

[889] You're in it!

[890] Let's all go there after the show.

[891] I would because what he did on this last night on earth was drink beer and play shuffleboard.

[892] Whoa.

[893] That's all I need.

[894] I'm sorry, that's a pretty fucking good way to go out.

[895] Natty lights and shuffleboard.

[896] Yeah.

[897] It would have been nicer if he just dropped dead at the shuffleboard area.

[898] Or not.

[899] or maybe not at all and lived in full life everybody or whatever all right uh that's what tore us apart that was a lot that's insanely rude look we're in the combat zone baby it's rough it's rough in here it's one -sided compliments and shit okay so his friends say that um at the novelty is where Joe Breen met a chubby, dark -haired stranger who he continued to play shuffleboard with after his friends were like, no, let's go across the street to that other bar.

[900] And then when the bars closed, Joe's friends came back to the novelty to get him, but found that neither he nor his new friend were there anymore.

[901] And one of the guys that were in Joe's group of friends was a cop.

[902] And so after Joe's body was found this guy went back to the novelty for like night after night for like a month to see if he could see the guy again but the guy never showed up again.

[903] So six months later on December 26th 9 -year -old Kenneth Martin is reported missing.

[904] Uh -huh.

[905] He was last seen near South Station.

[906] Oh?

[907] Oh, is that good?

[908] People are like, oh, that's Tony.

[909] He must have been rich.

[910] South Station's bad.

[911] Okay.

[912] Well, that's appropriate because terrible things happened there.

[913] And I'm going to tell you what they are.

[914] On January 6th, an anonymous tipster calls and says that Kenneth Martin's body can be found in one of the tunnels beneath South Station.

[915] But he didn't announce himself or laugh.

[916] this time I bet he felt stupid about the first time so he was like I'm not doing that anymore it stuck anyway so the police went down there it took two days to locate Kenneth's body and he was lying under a canvas tarp he had been strangled to death and the twine was still around his neck and but there were no signs of sexual assault it turns out that Kenneth Martin had worked at the South Station bowling alley is that Still there?

[917] Don't you think it should be?

[918] I bet it's one of those like the old -fashioned ones.

[919] I had the small little balls and you know to put the pins.

[920] Yes, it was.

[921] What are you yelling?

[922] Candlepin, candle pit.

[923] Candlepin.

[924] Southern California doesn't have that.

[925] We've got the biggest pins in the world.

[926] It was one of those because he, Kenneth's job was to reset those pins.

[927] He made a little money.

[928] Resetting the pins at the shitty station bowling alley.

[929] Fuck, man. But the good part about that was, because he worked there, everybody else that worked there knew him.

[930] And so they saw him when he, they basically saw the last person that was with him.

[931] And that was Kenneth Harrison.

[932] 31, an unemployed cook who, look.

[933] Oh, fuck.

[934] I knew somehow.

[935] Oh, he doesn't look chill.

[936] That is.

[937] He looks like John Lenin got punched in the face a bunch Yeah Yeah he's the Beatle where they were like You know we're probably not going to do this that much anymore So I don't think we need keyboards But we want your brother George He can stay He's doing he's great Yeah so So, this guy basically sleeps in unoccupied, like, offices and spaces in South Station, which I hear is great.

[938] It's an up -and -coming area now.

[939] Those offices go for 3 ,500 a month.

[940] They call them lofts now.

[941] So, oh, I lost my place.

[942] I can't believe he hand wrote this.

[943] I know.

[944] This is such a bad idea.

[945] This looks like fucking.

[946] quills.

[947] Like, it's like I'm a lunatic inside of an asylum.

[948] Like, and then the man took the child.

[949] Jesus Christ, what is my life?

[950] Okay.

[951] First close.

[952] Oh, I wrote, that's why I was so lost, because I just randomly wrote, good eye, bowling alley, dude.

[953] Don't cut.

[954] Stop it, Karen.

[955] Okay.

[956] Um, I said, he'd been at the bowling alley long enough to know that if you see a 31 -year -old cook and a nine -year -old boy paling around together and you're nodded at a Magic the Gathering, Gathering.

[957] Then why don't you go ahead and call the police?

[958] And that's what they did.

[959] Ooh.

[960] Whatever it takes.

[961] I know they're like, there's no way she's attacking Magic the Gathering.

[962] She threw down.

[963] She doesn't give a thought.

[964] She's more of a World of Warcraft kind of girl.

[965] I don't know if those aren't even close to each other.

[966] Turns out when the cops went to talk to Kenneth Harrison, he had the day before jumped on a train to Providence, Rhode Island.

[967] Hi.

[968] Is that a fun train trip?

[969] Yeah.

[970] It's close because never mind.

[971] What?

[972] I met some nice murderinos when I was having lunch earlier and they told me where at Rhode Island and it's like, oh, so did you guys come in for the day or like fly in?

[973] And they're like, it's like an hour away.

[974] Would you take a boat or a train?

[975] Yeah.

[976] very nice about it though.

[977] Where we live, it takes seven hours to get anywhere else.

[978] Like in the city, in the same city.

[979] In that one city.

[980] Don't come in LA.

[981] Los Angeles and Boston are so different.

[982] Thank you.

[983] Oh, no, you're getting one.

[984] Well, it's from the, probably the ladies at the bar.

[985] Oh, I see.

[986] They're the ones who talk to about Providence, Rhode Island.

[987] Yeah.

[988] I like to picture that it's like a soap dish thing where you're going up to people being like, where's Providence, Rhode Island?

[989] Do you listen to podcasts?

[990] Like, it's clearly a girl that's coming to the show.

[991] You can just tell, you know?

[992] Yeah, you see a shirt.

[993] Yeah, he has pins on.

[994] I know you're coming.

[995] All right, so the police bring...

[996] Oh, he's gone.

[997] The police bring Kenneth Harrison back to Boston and they interrogate him.

[998] And Kenneth tells police that he was...

[999] He was sitting in an office and he was suddenly struck with the urge to kill.

[1000] And that's when Kenneth, rolled on by and he has no memory of it because he was blackout drunk he claims that he woke up down in the tunnels next to the dead body he covered it with the canvas and left because he said oh he he called it in and then he left because he felt bad and then the cops were like oh really is that your story and then Kenneth Harrison said Well, as long as I'm here, I might as well tell you about a few more.

[1001] Whoa.

[1002] Because I'm the giggler.

[1003] So, two and a half years earlier, while he was, this is fucked up.

[1004] We've been having a nice time so far.

[1005] It's about to get really not that great.

[1006] While he was working as a cab driver, he saw six -year -old Lucy Palm Maron.

[1007] She's going to come up in a second.

[1008] Well, I mean, yeah.

[1009] So he sees her walking.

[1010] This is that thing, too.

[1011] She's six years old walking to the store to get candy.

[1012] Six, six years old.

[1013] Because it's the 60s.

[1014] She's this big.

[1015] Because it's the 90s even.

[1016] Get out of here.

[1017] I don't want to see you till the sun goes down, Lucy.

[1018] Go.

[1019] Go play.

[1020] Fucking go walk around the south side of Boston.

[1021] Yeah.

[1022] World of Warcraft isn't invented yet.

[1023] Go play.

[1024] Just go.

[1025] So he is in his cab.

[1026] He offers her a ride, and she gets in, he's friendly enough, she gets in willingly.

[1027] They drive around the neighborhood for a bit, and then he parks the cab on a bridge overlooking Fort Point Channel, which is this site of the Boston Tea Party, Georgia.

[1028] You'll be tested later on that.

[1029] What's that?

[1030] I just didn't even know to begin with.

[1031] Thanks.

[1032] Everyone's so pissed.

[1033] I know what it is.

[1034] It's hard.

[1035] It's hard to be vulnerable.

[1036] So they get out of the cab, and he encourages her to get on his back because he's going to give her a piggyback ride.

[1037] No. And then he tells the police he was again struck with that urge to kill.

[1038] And so instead of putting her up on his shoulders, which is not a piggyback ride, but it's how the thing was real.

[1039] so I just have to copy and paste as I see it.

[1040] He, instead of lifting her to put her on his shoulders, he just throws her off the page.

[1041] Oh, fuck.

[1042] Yeah.

[1043] Get out.

[1044] So five weeks later, Lucy's body is found on May 24th, but since there was no one witness, it was the middle of the day, nobody witnessed it happening, her death was ruled accidental.

[1045] And then on November 26, 1968, while walking across that same bridge, he spots 75 -year -old Clover Parker, an old lady who had been slipping on the ice and had a cane.

[1046] Clover.

[1047] And he, yeah, yeah, he walked over to help her.

[1048] No. And was, again, struck with the urge to kill.

[1049] And so he punched her in the face a couple of times.

[1050] And then threw her off the bridge.

[1051] again in broad daylight.

[1052] What the fuck?

[1053] What is the situation with this bridge?

[1054] Is there a bunch of trees nearby?

[1055] Why am I asking?

[1056] Why am I asking?

[1057] Do you think anyone's on their first date right now?

[1058] And one person was like, what do you want to do?

[1059] And she's like, I want to go to this thing.

[1060] You want to come?

[1061] I really want you to like the thing I like.

[1062] Yeah.

[1063] And they're like, this state's over.

[1064] Yeah.

[1065] The one person's all, after this, we're going to go back and we're going to have some drinks.

[1066] And the other person's like already texting their friend.

[1067] like you have to fucking come get me at the Wilbur right now.

[1068] Why did you set me up with her?

[1069] What the fuck?

[1070] Who is this?

[1071] That's fine.

[1072] The bruising on her face, the beating was mistaken for post -mortem injuries, and so again, it was ruled in accidental death.

[1073] No. Then seven months later is when he met up with Joe Breen and beat him to death with the rock.

[1074] He had hit him in the head with a rock.

[1075] But then in his confession, he wasn't done because then he rolled it all the way back to January 28th, 1966, which was the date of the Paramount Hotel Fire.

[1076] That was a well -known hobo hotel here in the combat zone.

[1077] We don't say hobo anymore.

[1078] You can't say it?

[1079] No. Hobo's bad?

[1080] Hobo's bad.

[1081] No, it's not.

[1082] Is it a train worker?

[1083] train track you can say whatever you can say whatever you fucking know it's uh I just I don't know that's what I heard really yeah all right you know that anybody can type anything into that machine right I mean they can just do whatever they want whoever Jody is she she didn't know yet Jody didn't know it's Jody Foster I did it for Jody Foster it's the Mark David Chapman quote when he gets oh yeah wait what It's a reference.

[1084] Oh, okay.

[1085] Oh.

[1086] Transient.

[1087] No, I'm scared of pictures coming up.

[1088] Jody Foster, picture.

[1089] Hobo with a big fucking line through it.

[1090] Jesus.

[1091] A transient hotel for people who did not have homes or money or people that loved him.

[1092] So it was very much sadder than it normally had to be.

[1093] If you're just picturing a hobo with a little stick on his shoulder and fucking patches on his knees.

[1094] I guess.

[1095] We cope in all these different ways.

[1096] You can't tell people to cope differently.

[1097] If it's pre -1990s, you can call him hobo.

[1098] I just decided.

[1099] This is 66.

[1100] Yeah, so you're good.

[1101] The height of hobo action.

[1102] All right.

[1103] We'll stop.

[1104] We'll stop.

[1105] So he basically, 50 people were injured, 11 people died in this fire, and it was decided that it was because of a gas leak until Kenneth Harrison explained that he set that hotel on fire.

[1106] Because he wanted to watch it burn.

[1107] What?

[1108] So, he was tried for Kenneth Martin's murder first, and he was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole.

[1109] And then just to get it all taken care of all together, his lawyers struck a deal so that in exchange for him pleading guilty to second -degree murder in each case, each of the other cases, he was given three life sentences with the possibility of parole to run concurrently with the one where there was.

[1110] no fucking way he was getting out.

[1111] So it was all just kind of like, do you want this, Kenneth?

[1112] Okay.

[1113] Can you imagine like that's his best bet?

[1114] Yeah.

[1115] Like, they're not talking around.

[1116] Yeah.

[1117] He's like, could I also have stickers?

[1118] No, sorry.

[1119] Stickers are only for the good boys.

[1120] All right, so then he was sentenced to hard labor at Walpole State Prison.

[1121] Ooh.

[1122] You guys, some are there?

[1123] There's just a row of.

[1124] dudes in like orange jumpsuits chained together.

[1125] They're just like, fuck.

[1126] My favorite murder, the prison tour.

[1127] Yeah.

[1128] Oh, dude.

[1129] The idea machine.

[1130] You wouldn't believe the shit that comes out of her mouth.

[1131] We wouldn't be able to call them dicklicks and stuff, though.

[1132] No, I know.

[1133] They'd get mad.

[1134] One person at the time I say shit correctly, and then it's golden.

[1135] The rest is Worcester.

[1136] I bet you, I bet the prisoners wouldn't care.

[1137] You said Worcester.

[1138] Yeah, they would.

[1139] They would.

[1140] They would the most.

[1141] And they'd try to strangle us because of it.

[1142] So instead of going to Walpole, they send him to Bridgewater State Hospital for the mentally insane, for the criminally insane.

[1143] Now, I have to tell you, in our next show, we're doing different murders tonight.

[1144] Yeah.

[1145] And I know, right?

[1146] And I don't know what the problem is with that.

[1147] It's just, we're changing eyes variety.

[1148] But, um, they're not as good, don't worry.

[1149] Bridgewater State Hospital plays into so many crimes here.

[1150] It's, they send everybody there.

[1151] Terrible.

[1152] It's terrible.

[1153] Get the buck in there.

[1154] Yeah, get in there.

[1155] Well, you can't.

[1156] There's a, there's a really upsetting documentary called the Titty Cut Follies, and it's about, it's hard to find.

[1157] They pulled it because it was an infringement of people's privacy, but this guy went in and made a documentary about life inside this, this state prison.

[1158] Oh, is that way Geraldo would be?

[1159] ever went to that?

[1160] No, that was the one that was in Staten Island.

[1161] Yeah.

[1162] But similar, I bet you that probably gave Carl to the idea because it was this thing where they went in of like, oh, this is, every year they do a talent show at, it's Bridgewater, right?

[1163] At Bridgewater State Prison, they do a talent show.

[1164] And so they were like, we're going to go film that, but of course what they were really filming is this fucking, the way people are treated and how awful it was and dehumanizing and everything.

[1165] So, just thought I throw that movie recommendation out for you.

[1166] If you have a, you know, fun weekend plant, throw that one in there, just to see man's inhumanity to man. So Kenneth Harrison stayed at Bridgewater for 20 years, and then in April of 1989, they told him that he was scheduled to be, finally be transferred.

[1167] They gave him a nice 20 -year holding period.

[1168] And then they said, you're going to get transferred to the state prison.

[1169] So he OD'd on his antidepressants.

[1170] Oh, you can do that?

[1171] Yeah, I guess so.

[1172] If you save him up.

[1173] You have to save up a ton.

[1174] Your tongue them into your...

[1175] You gum them?

[1176] You gum them.

[1177] Yeah.

[1178] Or you go ahead and maybe you armpit them.

[1179] Right.

[1180] There's all these ways.

[1181] Yeah.

[1182] And then the person who wrote, I did it for Jody, made a very hilarious joke about the great irony of the giggler dying of antidepressant overdose.

[1183] Oh my God.

[1184] That is amazing.

[1185] And I had to tell you that it's a very strong person, a very strong stand of a comedian that doesn't just rip that joke off and say it as her own.

[1186] I wanted to really bad, I can't.

[1187] Karen, we're proud of you.

[1188] Yeah, applaud me. Applaud me. That is amazing.

[1189] For not being a dick.

[1190] Applaud me for stealing.

[1191] That might be the best closer of any murder we've ever talked about.

[1192] Of the irony of that juxtaposition.

[1193] Gorgeous.

[1194] Love it.

[1195] They're coming for you for a bridge water.

[1196] Do we have time for a...

[1197] Do we?

[1198] To the people?

[1199] One guy's like, no, this date sucks.

[1200] Do we have, can you look over there and see if they're telling us yes or no?

[1201] I mean, we can do whatever the fuck.

[1202] Oh, they're saying no. They're saying, I guess I should have looked before I asked.

[1203] We should have looked first.

[1204] That's what, that's our lesson.

[1205] No, a guy yelling, whoa, yo, yo, yo, wait isn't going to work out here at this show, my friend.

[1206] That's simply not happening.

[1207] We'd love for you to stay sexy.

[1208] And don't get.