The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz XX
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[14] It would not appear Stugats that my assessment was wrong on the Tua thing because I'm getting a lot of texts already just with the one clip that we put out there from a lot of people in the industry that are surprised to hear Tua taking out Flores, the way that he did.
[15] We will play the entirety of that interview at the end of this.
[16] He was that kind of open throughout it.
[17] I don't think he didn't take anybody else out, but I will say that he's simply speaking with a confidence that we have not heard from him publicly before.
[18] Don't say that he doesn't take anyone out.
[19] Just like, guys, you cannot believe what else he said and who he took out.
[20] Who else he took out.
[21] Exactly, right.
[22] That's how you sell it.
[23] What are they saying about his teeth?
[24] So far, that controversy has not gotten off the ground.
[25] But I would like more information about Stugat and Chris, because one of my favorite parts of the Tua interview was him about four minutes in asking, why are these other two guys here?
[26] Are they going to say anything?
[27] He asked that?
[28] He did.
[29] He turned to Chris and Stugantz and are like, are they just here decoratively or are they going to ask me anything?
[30] Yeah, me. I'm here to be a decorative.
[31] Was the answer?
[32] You're a decoration.
[33] Did you ask something, Chris?
[34] I think, no. Dan was just like, yeah, they're going to jump in.
[35] No, I think I responded by saying something about him not remembering.
[36] Dan in the interview we did at Super Bowl Radio Row.
[37] Spoiler alert, that's one of the best parts of the interviews.
[38] Why did you bring that up?
[39] Stugats was sitting there hoping to be noticed by Tua drinking from his cup that had his name on it.
[40] He spent there four minutes just sort of trying to be seen noticed by Tua.
[41] I wanted to get to a couple of things here that are genuine curiosities for me today.
[42] Do you guys have an answer to the question?
[43] Before we get Stugats' explanation, which might be a simple one, you guys have noticed that Stugats seems to drive here in a different car every week.
[44] Yes.
[45] Got a clunker this week.
[46] Well, what is, before we get to the real answer on this.
[47] This hasn't been like a recent thing either.
[48] This has been several years long, Dan, dating back to like the Miami Garden Studios.
[49] Sugatz gets courtesy vehicles because his main car is always in the shop like no one I've ever seen before my entire life.
[50] I don't know the answer to the question I'm asking.
[51] I always assume it's just because the authorities are closing in.
[52] I think I know the answer.
[53] Because every time he tells me out, my daughter's in town.
[54] Yes.
[55] I think he has two cars, and then every time one of his daughters is in town, he somehow scams a dealer to give him a courtesy vehicle instead of actually having another car.
[56] I don't scam anyone.
[57] You know, we have two cars, and my daughters, they have not taken their cars to school yet.
[58] So we just have two cars.
[59] So when my daughters are home and they're both home right now at summertime, one goes back to school next week, we rent a car.
[60] That's what we do.
[61] It's just a rental car.
[62] That's it.
[63] I'm not scamming anyone.
[64] What is not taking their cars to school have to do with any?
[65] If anything, you'd have a surplus of cars.
[66] So the two cars are here.
[67] No, those two cars are here.
[68] We use those two cars.
[69] And when they take them up to school, we'll have to purchase new cars.
[70] But for now, we're renting when they come home, you know?
[71] I don't understand.
[72] I don't understand.
[73] I don't have four cars.
[74] You just said flat tire drinks.
[75] The two cars that we have at home right now, one is Rachel's.
[76] She'll take that up to school.
[77] What is Emmas?
[78] So you don't have any cars.
[79] I don't own a car.
[80] No. That's what it is.
[81] Yeah.
[82] Okay.
[83] Why wouldn't you lead with that?
[84] I mean, technically I own two cars, but they're Rachel and Emmas.
[85] And so me and Abby do not own cars, but we're getting around to it.
[86] I don't think you are.
[87] We'll buy them when we have to.
[88] But you're halfway through your daughter's college career and they still haven't taken their cars.
[89] What's going to change now?
[90] So Rachel will take hers up this year.
[91] There was no need for her to have a car.
[92] Rachel will take hers up this year.
[93] Emma will not.
[94] because Emma is spending half the year abroad.
[95] She is going somewhere to study.
[96] Exciting.
[97] Why wouldn't you lead with, I don't have a car?
[98] It's a fair point, but Dan was asking, I was just explaining it's a rental car.
[99] But it's weird, though, that every week it's a different car, and it's many different weeks.
[100] Sometimes it's a big car, sometimes it's a small car, but it's never a car that I identify as Stugats' car.
[101] That's the part we haven't gotten to yet, is whose car are you driving today?
[102] Today's a rental car.
[103] Well, how long do you rent it for?
[104] I mean, we rent it until they go back.
[105] But what are they doing between the hours of, let's say, 7 a .m. and, you know, 2 p .m. when you get home, that you can't use the car.
[106] They're doing stuff.
[107] I don't know.
[108] They need a car.
[109] I mean, they're out training, you know, shopping, spending my money, doing things that, you know, smoking weed.
[110] I mean, I don't know what they're doing.
[111] This car is a downgrade, though.
[112] The one that's presently here looks like you rented a cheaper version of the car that you usually rent.
[113] There's nothing wrong with a Toyota Corolla.
[114] I got it on purpose.
[115] what I said was give me a smoking car because what happened is...
[116] I knew it.
[117] You rent these cars.
[118] I don't believe that's a thing you can ask for it.
[119] No, you can.
[120] You rent these cars, right?
[121] And they're fresh and they're new and there's a sign that says no smoking.
[122] And then I got busted because I had a cigarette one.
[123] And it was $450.
[124] Oh, yeah.
[125] And Abby was so mad at me. So now when I walk in, I just say, hey, give me a clunker 60 ,000 miles that has white stains all over the window.
[126] I mean, that's what I want because that means I could smoke at it.
[127] That's the tell for smokers.
[128] I don't understand your economic knowledge in that you're constantly renting cars at a rate that would cost more than just leasing a car.
[129] That's fair.
[130] I mean, we've thought about that.
[131] What is the white stuff?
[132] It's like the ashes.
[133] You hold a cigarette out of the window.
[134] The ashes go against the, you know, the black plastic.
[135] Have you ever seen at the airport when they have those little leprosy cages for the smokers?
[136] Oh, yeah.
[137] How those windows get a bunch of colors on.
[138] them, that's what it is.
[139] I always smirk when I go by those rooms.
[140] Yeah.
[141] I have a feeling of superiority that I never have because I'm not superior to anybody.
[142] As you're wheezing coughing.
[143] I know, but when I go by the smoking room...
[144] There's people in that room who are in better shape than you are.
[145] I know they are, but they're still pathetic.
[146] You know, they're on their...
[147] I know.
[148] It feels pathetic, I can tell you.
[149] Yeah, it does.
[150] If you go into one of those smoking rooms, right?
[151] Like, a lot of them are like outdoor rooms, right?
[152] So, like, you walk in and it's like, it's open air, right?
[153] If you go into...
[154] Yeah, some of them are.
[155] If you go into that, you're still technically in the airport, but you're outside.
[156] So, like, if I were to land in Denver, for example, right, and then I step outside, inside, into the smoking room, but I have a connecting flight where I don't actually leave the Denver airport.
[157] Can I say I've been in Denver?
[158] That's true.
[159] I have seen in Miami's International Airport, one of the worst airports in the history of flight in aviation history, what I believe to be is a bar that has an open air space above.
[160] It's still there, Dana.
[161] So that some of the smoke gets.
[162] out and the windows are slightly less white with whatever cancerous gick.
[163] It's no Nathan's, but I mean...
[164] Yeah.
[165] It's foul.
[166] Put it on the poll, please, Juju, at Lebitard Show.
[167] Do you feel an air of superiority when you walk past the smokers lounge in the airport?
[168] But why you're coughing, I mean...
[169] You know, well, how long did you read this car force, you guys?
[170] Airport should have eating rooms, you know, where you walk by in the...
[171] They're called restaurants.
[172] No, no, I'm not.
[173] I'm not.
[174] talking about a dedicated eating room would be akin to the smoking room.
[175] Some nice tables.
[176] Where it's a bunch of like, quite frankly, corpulent people.
[177] Yes.
[178] Comfy chairs.
[179] Stuffing their face.
[180] That's good advice.
[181] Get restaurants.
[182] What?
[183] I like that.
[184] No, I mean, eating rooms.
[185] You know, because one thing you hate...
[186] Eating rooms.
[187] I hate people eating when they shouldn't be eating.
[188] You know, like you're in a supermarket.
[189] People are eating grapes as they're walking through the store, cheating the market.
[190] Put it on the poll, Juju, at Lebitard Show.
[191] Do you eat some grapes as you're walking through the supermarket.
[192] No, but in the airport now, you get a bag of food.
[193] You come back to your seat.
[194] You're waiting in the area, you know, the gated area.
[195] And, you know, you take out the food.
[196] It's a Burger King chicken sandwich.
[197] And you open the wrapping up right, you know, in the seat right next to you.
[198] You're taking up someone else's seat.
[199] It's inefficient.
[200] An eating room would be great for everyone.
[201] Everyone wins.
[202] I don't want to see anybody else eat.
[203] Even in a restaurant, who looks at other people eating.
[204] It's just tasteful to see other people eat.
[205] The food court eating area.
[206] They have these guys.
[207] We're a bunch of places.
[208] Surrounding all the restaurants.
[209] A bunch of tables.
[210] No privacy.
[211] Greg, would you like one of those like in the dark dining experiences?
[212] How dark is it?
[213] No, they turn out the lights completely.
[214] You're just there.
[215] You go on a date or whatever, and then it's pitch black, and then you're just eating in the dark.
[216] I'll tell you one thing.
[217] I don't need light.
[218] I know where my mouth is.
[219] I don't need a light.
[220] I don't need a map.
[221] You know, I know how to eat.
[222] I can eat with my eyes closed.
[223] I mean, come on now.
[224] Roy, why did you come in limping today?
[225] I'm 40 years old, Dan, and I've fallen off.
[226] on the whole exercise thing so yes I am actually 40 you turned 40?
[227] Happy birthday Roy we should have celebrated this like that happened and July to him I don't care good luck I didn't realize it was the big 4 oh though yeah and I've fallen off on the old exercise routine so Anneed and I have decided that it's time for me to get healthy and last week I like how you put it in notice her name decided that I need to stop gambling so much at the poker tables I have to stop going to the poker tables as much and that was a collective decision by Anita and I exactly now correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Ani like a big runner doesn't she do like marathons and such yes she is and that's how we got started on the whole exercise thing we ended up running you're fun dude yeah how far do you run We were supposed to run two miles.
[228] I probably ran two blocks.
[229] At least he did it at a nice time to be running.
[230] Why are you limping?
[231] Because I'm sore, Billy.
[232] Because he's 40.
[233] And I'm 40.
[234] Two blocks.
[235] Two blocks.
[236] That's my kind of distance running.
[237] Tua, as you've never heard him.
[238] Next.
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[240] It smells like football.
[241] I forgot what he smelled like.
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[273] All right, we got to go back out there.
[274] That was big.
[275] Wake him up.
[276] Uh -oh.
[277] He doesn't want, he doesn't want to be bothering anymore.
[278] And now it's getting tense because he didn't need that as a result.
[279] He needs something that happens.
[280] You can see it.
[281] Mother Ethel.
[282] Can we bother?
[283] Are we bothering you right now?
[284] Turn on your microphone.
[285] My microphone's on.
[286] Stugats.
[287] Paint the scene.
[288] The paint the scene is I got to go to work.
[289] Good night.
[290] This is the Dan Lebatar show with the Stugats.
[291] I'm getting bashed right now because I got to come and do this.
[292] And guys, guys' routines are getting messed up.
[293] Yeah.
[294] Coming in hitting the simulator.
[295] We are doing these interviews.
[296] in their golf sailing.
[297] Wait, they're mad because we're occupying their golf space.
[298] Yes, during the break, yeah, before.
[299] We're here with Tuatunga Viloa, and I wanted to start with you by apologizing to you because I botched our last interview from the Super Bowl, so I wanted to start there.
[300] Oh, you're good.
[301] What do you mean you botched it?
[302] Oh, I was just asking you one too many concussion question.
[303] It was right after.
[304] He made it uncomfortable.
[305] You were sitting next to me and Billy.
[306] We were at, we were at Radio Row with you.
[307] He made it uncomfortable.
[308] He stopped talking.
[309] We started talking, and the interview Oh, I appreciate the apology.
[310] I don't remember that.
[311] Okay, well, good.
[312] I appreciate that.
[313] Does it?
[314] I feel better.
[315] He doesn't remember Dan, though.
[316] I mean, I don't remember that you guys did that.
[317] You look great.
[318] Now that could go both ways.
[319] I don't remember.
[320] All right.
[321] I could go both ways, so I don't know.
[322] I was genuinely worried about you, though, at the time.
[323] As I imagine, a lot of people, not just in South Florida all over, were, but I won't drown this interview.
[324] in that.
[325] You seem in interviews that I've seen, because you and I, right when you came out of the league, we did something, we did a long -form interview.
[326] Do you're one of that?
[327] No. Dude, I mean, it said that so long ago.
[328] I'm like, it was on stage.
[329] It was at the Super Bowl, but you seem like a different human being from then.
[330] You were coming out of college and you've just grown with whatever the trials and tribulations of the last few years have been.
[331] Like, you've, it's been nice, to watch your growth publicly into somebody who seems vocally more confident than he was then because you were just a college kid.
[332] You were just coming out of college.
[333] Yeah.
[334] It was and it was different for sure.
[335] That was two kids ago.
[336] That was a wife ago.
[337] Like all of that.
[338] And then you take into consideration like all the things that for me personally that I've had to go through the first couple years with the coaching staff then and then now with the coaching staff that we have, It's just been a whirlwind and there's been a lot of growth from year two and then on to going on to year five now in that sense.
[339] I've never seen an athlete like you in South Florida in terms of being polarizing when I don't understand why you're polarizing.
[340] Oh, I don't understand why, but it's kind of fun.
[341] It's kind of fun.
[342] It's funny.
[343] Wait, you enjoy that?
[344] Oh, it's funny because I can't control any of that.
[345] But the cool thing about it is like you're being talked about.
[346] whether it's good or bad, that's hilarious.
[347] You said this.
[348] That's hilarious.
[349] Like, whether it's good or bad, I mean, I don't, I don't care whether you have something good or something bad.
[350] You know, everyone's entitled to their own opinion about someone.
[351] And, I mean, I just don't understand, too, myself, why it's so polarizing.
[352] Like, okay, if he can't do this, we say he can't do this, then he does it.
[353] Okay, wait, what is something else?
[354] We got to, okay, yeah, no, he can't do that, but he sucks at that.
[355] No, but he actually did that.
[356] No, but no way.
[357] Wait, wait, wait.
[358] No, wait, wait.
[359] Dude, but remember two years ago, dude, he, so it's, I have to apologize.
[360] I'm the master of doing that.
[361] So, like, and I've done it to you probably.
[362] So I'm sorry, too.
[363] But that's okay, because that's essentially what, what analysts or that's what, that's what the job asks of you guys to do, right?
[364] So does it, does it bother me?
[365] No, because I'm not on TikTok.
[366] I'm not on Vine.
[367] I'm on YouTube shorts.
[368] So if I'll run through through one of those, yeah, I'm, you know, I'll see it, but I'm not on Instagram.
[369] Instagram.
[370] I don't run my Instagram account, my, like, my Twitter account.
[371] Like, I don't run any of that.
[372] So I'm not on it to see it.
[373] Yeah, but it makes life easier.
[374] Right?
[375] It doesn't have to deal with that.
[376] Yeah, no, for sure.
[377] But I think, I don't know.
[378] I just think a lot of people get caught up in, in that world.
[379] And it just takes a lot out of people.
[380] I've seen it firsthand.
[381] Not just for myself, because it has taken a lot out of me for myself.
[382] Because I've had Instagram and whatnot would be on it, like in college and and whatnot than when I came into the league, that was sort of the change for me where it's like, whoa, this is a different world, dude.
[383] And if I continue to like live in the world of, okay, what these people are saying about me and then I get in my own head about that and I try to go out and prove to them like, no, I can, I can, I can.
[384] Well, that's not how this game works.
[385] Like, I don't think that's how life works, right?
[386] Like who you are is who you are and how you go about things, that's just what makes you you.
[387] And so you start, start to change for what other people want you to do.
[388] I mean, it just messes up, messes everything up for you just daily because then you go to sleep and you lay your head down in night knowing that's not you, that, that's just not me. So I would say there's been growth a lot there and it's really been the past, what, four and a half, five years, you know, with social media and whatnot.
[389] The heat of the position though, the growth that you've had over the last couple of years of your strength.
[390] You are stronger.
[391] You're obviously someone who has the backing of an organization and a coaching staff.
[392] The person I met three or four years ago wasn't this forceful about go bleep yourself.
[393] I don't care what any of you think about anything.
[394] Yeah.
[395] Well, I don't think he was mature at the point yet.
[396] Now, would I go and tell that that kid anything indifferent, you know, to think that I would be in this position?
[397] Like, no, I don't.
[398] I would tell him, like, dude, you, whatever you're doing, go through it.
[399] You got to go through that in order to get to where you're at now.
[400] Like, that's just life, right?
[401] You continue to learn.
[402] You continue to take the mistakes with the success and how you are from that.
[403] Like, that's just what it is.
[404] Like, you know, you live with that.
[405] The mistakes, you live with that.
[406] Like, that's just life.
[407] I think once you start to have the perspective of it's not as bad as it seems and it's never as good as it seems, I think then you can start to really find out the quality of, okay, that was a really good mistake.
[408] Whereas, okay, last time, like, if it were any other time, I made that mistake, I would have been so into my head, like, into my head.
[409] Like, I couldn't get out.
[410] And now I'm so worried about that.
[411] I can't even focus on the next plays.
[412] I can't even focus on the next drives.
[413] So kind of taking that mentality of perspective, you know.
[414] Where and how did that get learned though.
[415] That had to be hard with a coach before that perhaps didn't believe in you the way that this one does.
[416] But I think that's where you get that opportunity to really understand the difference, right?
[417] You have someone that doesn't believe in you and you see how you are.
[418] Then you have someone that does believe in you and then you can see the growth there.
[419] Like, I understand how I was a couple years ago, even last year.
[420] Like, I'm not the same person I was last year.
[421] Next year, I won't be the same person I am because you're ever growing, you're ever evolving.
[422] And if not, then, you know, there's, you sort of speculate on if there's anything more to life than just that.
[423] Because if you're not growing, you know, you're getting worse or, you know, it's obviously going in the opposite direction.
[424] You're not allowed to be stagnant at your position in this job.
[425] I've wondered this for a while.
[426] With Tarik Hill and Jalen Waddle, if let's say you're like, you know, right before half, time, Waddle's got like seven catches and Tariq only has one.
[427] Does Tariq start getting in your ear about, hey, he's got never?
[428] Nope.
[429] How about Waddle?
[430] Nope.
[431] Really?
[432] What about River?
[433] Probably.
[434] No, I think we've, I think we've all established a good enough relationship to really, to really know, like, okay, like last year, we were in a way really trying to have.
[435] help re -get to that 200 or 2 ,000 yard mark.
[436] I mean, it wasn't, it wasn't like we were trying to hide that, right?
[437] That was pretty obvious, you know, trying to feed them the ball and whatnot.
[438] We all have a good enough relationship off the field to where Jalen can come up to me at any point, even in the games and whatnot, and tell me like, like, bro, I'm not, I'm not messing with this.
[439] Like, you, like, I need some shine too, you know, and I can go up to Mike and say, hey, like, we need some more plays for X, you know, in this drive or throughout this game.
[440] And we, like, RIC would be cool with that.
[441] Well, the cool thing about it was, like, Jalen knew, like, we were trying to do that for RIC.
[442] And he wasn't really, like, he's like, dude, I'm just here to support, like, whatever I can do, like, if I get the ball, I'm making the best out of that opportunity and whatnot.
[443] So, like, those guys, I mean, they make it easy, but they're, they are tough.
[444] That doesn't mean they're easy, you know, to have conversations with because they are unique in their own sense of personalities as well.
[445] Were you getting any access to what everybody was saying about your value this offseason?
[446] What was the contract negotiation for you like?
[447] Were you able to separate yourself and say this is business?
[448] Or were you at some point saying, I should be valued by these people at X amount?
[449] Yeah.
[450] Well, it was tough for me because for me, who you are as a person, regardless if it's business, if it's not business.
[451] That's how you are every time, right?
[452] You can't go from being the nicest person to being an asshole, like when it comes to business.
[453] Like to me, you're either a really nice person a good amount of times and you know how to talk to people, or you're an asshole that's trying to pretend to be a nice person.
[454] Like, there's just no personality of being nice and then being an asshole and then being an asshole and then trying to be nice.
[455] I just think who you are, like, if you're going to be an asshole, okay, noted.
[456] Like, that's normally who you are, like, essentially.
[457] Yeah, don't get me wrong.
[458] Can nice people, you know, get going?
[459] Sure, but within business, you got to know how to talk to people.
[460] You got to know how emotional intelligence works.
[461] You got to know all of that.
[462] You got to know how to deal with people, how to maneuver through things, and do it the right way.
[463] For me, it would have been hard for me to have been involved a lot within the process of that because I didn't want any of what they had to say to be told to me and my guys what they had to say to them.
[464] So it was like, hey, I'm out of this.
[465] You guys go in there, you guys go talk about this.
[466] Let me know when this thing is done.
[467] It was long, for sure, it was long, but it's not like you're saying, hey, can we get two dollars here?
[468] Like no, it's, it's, A million dollars is a lot, let alone how much I just got paid.
[469] So, you know, that's why I think it took along.
[470] It's not as easy as saying, like, hey, yeah, can you just send me $5 through Venmo?
[471] Did you ever think it was not going to get done?
[472] I didn't not think that it was, yeah, because I've had a good amount of conversations with Stephen Ross about it.
[473] That'll do it.
[474] Yeah.
[475] Is there anything that you'll still go cheap on?
[476] Cheap on?
[477] You know, like, you know, I'm still going Bogo at Publix.
[478] Like, you know, now with the new deal.
[479] Oh, no, brother.
[480] I'm done the same, brother.
[481] Yeah?
[482] Yeah, I mean, I don't see why you would go shopping anywhere else, you know?
[483] The Bogo is strong.
[484] When I see Bogo, it's like, I'll take three of these.
[485] But you're not looking for discounts or anything like that.
[486] Oh, I'm still like, too, come on.
[487] You mean an example of you still being.
[488] That's a great coupons.
[489] Dude, you're going on like, what, DoorDash or something?
[490] Yeah.
[491] Like, dude, give me the 50 % off.
[492] Oh, you don't do the $2 .99 for the $2 .99 for the.
[493] The quick.
[494] Like, dude, go to Uber.
[495] Dude.
[496] The marketplace?
[497] Like, you just, okay, I don't know.
[498] Oh, buy one, get one free?
[499] Okay, you get that.
[500] Like, dude.
[501] I mean.
[502] I don't like it when it's like, buy seven and get three.
[503] It's like, just be bogo or don't be bogo.
[504] Like, I don't like this like, buy six and you get forward.
[505] You're always going Uber premium.
[506] You're not Ubering below the premium, are you?
[507] Oh.
[508] Priority.
[509] So you are up first.
[510] You're not getting one of those Miami cars that smell like feet and cheese.
[511] Jesus, I have a driver.
[512] No, I'll, I drive, no, we, I drive myself.
[513] I'm driving myself around.
[514] The only time is that, that we, we like get a driver.
[515] Me and Anna get a driver is normally when it's like a little later dinner in Miami just because of how far that is from, like, Fort Lauderdale area.
[516] And so it's like, okay, we're probably going to be full and a little tired after we eat.
[517] So probably just going to want to relax.
[518] And so that's, that's normally when we'd get a driver.
[519] but I'm driving myself everywhere.
[520] When you sign the contract, did you make some sort of ridiculous purchase for you or your family?
[521] No. I haven't made a ridiculous purchase.
[522] Has that first direct deposit hit yet?
[523] Like with the new amount where you're like, whoa.
[524] Well, he's still under the old deal, right?
[525] Oh, that's how old.
[526] Yeah.
[527] The signing bone.
[528] That one, that thing clears on that first one.
[529] Whoa.
[530] There's something.
[531] There's something.
[532] There's something.
[533] A little money.
[534] But we haven't, yeah, we have.
[535] haven't uh we haven't gotten anything um we've said too much really yeah no we're just a little invasive i mean we didn't say enough yeah let's say more well it was unusual to see you on the sidelines with a microphone you were clearly a bullion you were effervescent you were really happy and you were vocal about those are some huge words what did you just say happy you were happy thank you i appreciate that whoa it was like a champagne a champagne bottle opening you were out there Show me the money seemed to be a little bit out of character for you.
[536] Oh, show me the money.
[537] Well, the reason that came out was because somebody, somebody dared me that I wouldn't do it.
[538] So that's why I did show me the money.
[539] Classic Rahim.
[540] Who dared you?
[541] Who did it?
[542] Come on.
[543] Classic Rahim, huh?
[544] What do you think?
[545] Tyreek?
[546] No?
[547] Tyreek sounds like, it sounds like my person.
[548] To be honest with you.
[549] Wado?
[550] Okay.
[551] No, it wasn't them.
[552] It wasn't.
[553] I'll keep going.
[554] Were you surprised Sabin, Stop Cojic?
[555] I was, actually.
[556] Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was.
[557] But I played, so after he ended up retiring, I maybe played golf with him, maybe like a month or two after.
[558] Who's giving strokes there?
[559] He was giving me strokes.
[560] Wow.
[561] He's a good little player, I guess.
[562] But you are surprised.
[563] But I feel like I'm a sandbagger, though.
[564] I know I am.
[565] But, you can ask Sabin about that, that, that, that, That was hilarious.
[566] Okay, but you were surprised.
[567] What were we playing for?
[568] How much a hole?
[569] It wasn't that much.
[570] Like, yeah, it wasn't that much.
[571] You ever take you on the boat and, like, throw you around on the raft?
[572] Well, he did when we were in Tuscaloosa, but we had the whole conversation, like, you know, about, hey, why, why did you retire this and that?
[573] And he gave the host spiel, and I thought it was, I thought it was crazy.
[574] Like, I told him, I would have thought he would have died coaching at the university.
[575] University of Alabama, but, you know, I had, I guess not.
[576] Was there anyone in your family a couple of years ago urging you to retire, telling you we're worried about you?
[577] Yeah, I would say for sure, especially with what happened with the concussions and whatnot.
[578] But we went and seen a doctor, got to go see the doctor and whatnot, got to get all the information that I needed to hear from him on whether it was a good idea or whether it and a good idea, and got to sit down with them, and I basically told them what I wanted to do.
[579] Who was the most vocal in your family telling you?
[580] Why don't we just stop this?
[581] I love you too much.
[582] Football's too dangerous.
[583] It's just dangerous.
[584] It wasn't too vocal, but it was just brought up, like, here and there.
[585] Like, you know, I don't think you should continue to play and whatnot, but we'll always support what you want to do.
[586] And it's more so like my mom.
[587] Yeah.
[588] And I get it.
[589] Like, you know, I mean, I've got kids too now, and it's like, you can understand why the mothers are the way they are.
[590] Is playing guitar the most romantic thing you do?
[591] Playing guitar?
[592] Who said I can play the guitar?
[593] Well, I've seen, I think on Hard Knocks, we saw some strung in.
[594] I've heard a little birdie.
[595] I have some sources.
[596] We were told you might have one here that you bring.
[597] Well, first of all, there was some social media clip of you playing something.
[598] Was it during Hard Knocks or something?
[599] You've been out there with your guitar.
[600] Are you denying your guitar playing?
[601] Are you denying your romance?
[602] No. I'm not a romantic guy.
[603] The romance part I was assuming.
[604] I just know you to be a guitar player.
[605] He's denying playing the guitar is what he's doing.
[606] I don't think he's doing that.
[607] Yeah, dude, I love playing the guitar.
[608] You broke him down.
[609] Investigative journal.
[610] What's your go -to tune when you're playing guitar?
[611] Honestly, I don't really have like a go -to tune.
[612] It's just picking up the feeling of picking up the guitar and then going through like the sequences of chords and then what sounds nice when you're finger picking and whatnot.
[613] How's your air guitar?
[614] It's like playing the bass.
[615] Slaping the bass.
[616] You are doing that.
[617] When you take us over the last couple of years, is there one game that you look at that brings back the memories of being happiest, of just being the happiest you've been playing football as a dolphin.
[618] The Broncos game.
[619] Is it the Broncos game?
[620] I mean, that Ravens' fourth quarter was pretty good.
[621] And I would say the last two years have been, have just been life -changing for me. Just within the fact of the support that I've had from Mike, from our quarterback room with Bev, and then just the support that I've had with my teammates, a lot of them being vocal.
[622] And then obviously the first year that Mike's been here was, you know, he sort of took like big a big step of being vocal and he he didn't really know like he's just telling me like dude i believe in you this and that but like he's taking a big chance with what he's saying right like we only have the past two years of what i put on tape and it's like dude yeah like you can throw these intermediate routes but like we haven't seen in much long balls or we haven't seen this and that and for him to have done that and then you know i'm i mean we've had we've had a winning season every every season but it's just like getting to the big games and like what we do in the big games that's been essentially what we've what we've been honing on last year and and this year let's make sure Kansas City has to come here this year dude you in for that I'm in for that are we all in for that I mean my gosh dude that was unbelievable yeah were you surprised that Mike McDaniel told us that you're the most accurate quarterback he had ever had probably not I would say probably not.
[623] No. Can you explain to us, last question before we get you out, can you explain to us the difference in practical terms between having a coach who did believe in you the way that he did and the difference between that and what was happening with Flores?
[624] Yeah.
[625] Well, to put it in simplest terms, if you woke up every morning and I told you, you sucked at what you did that you don't.
[626] don't belong doing what you do, that you shouldn't be here, that this guy should be here, that you haven't earned this right, and then you have somebody else come in and tell you, dude, you are the best fit for this.
[627] Like, you are accurate, you are the best, whatever, you are this, you are that.
[628] Like, how would it make you feel listening to one or the other?
[629] You see what I'm saying?
[630] And then you hear it, you hear it, regardless of what it is, the good or the bad.
[631] and you hear it more and more, you start to actually believe that.
[632] I don't care who you are.
[633] You can be the president of the United States.
[634] You have a terrible person that's telling you things that you don't want to hear or that you probably shouldn't be hearing.
[635] You're going to start to believe that about yourself.
[636] And so that's sort of like what ended up happening.
[637] And it was, I mean, it's basically been, what, two years of training that out of, not just me, but a couple of the guys as well that have been here since.
[638] since my rookie year all the way till now.
[639] It's been great to see your success.
[640] Great to see someone as fundamentally decent as you are rewarded.
[641] So thank you for all of your work down here.