06 Oct 2020 – The Crisis of Clarity with Fr. Altman

[0] Welcome to the Bishop Strickland Hour.

[1] My name's Terry Barber with Virgin Most Powerful Radio.

[2] I'm really excited today because we have a special guest, Father James Altman, to join us here with the Bishop Strickland Hour.

[3] Bishop Strickland Hour.

[4] Bishop Strickland, welcome again for another hour.

[5] Thanks, Terry.

[6] Thank you for joining us.

[7] Father Altman, welcome to the Bishop Strickland Hour.

[8] Are you there?

[9] I am.

[10] I am.

[11] Thank you very much.

[12] I just am blessed to jock and blessed to be here.

[13] Well, Father, I will.

[14] we say I'm too blessed to be stressed.

[15] I'm too anointed to be disappointed.

[16] And if hope was money, I'd be a billionaire.

[17] Today, Father, I felt like doing some push -ups before the show because I'm excited.

[18] Now, I'm always excited.

[19] You'll notice that Terry has no enthusiasm.

[20] We have to kind of pump them off.

[21] Just give another cup of coffee.

[22] Yeah.

[23] Good thing I don't drink coffee, huh?

[24] Well, I just wanted to have the two of you together for a reason.

[25] I want to inspire people because we need strong leadership in our church, our bishops, our priests, are willing to speak the truth in charity with clarity.

[26] And so, Father Altman, you did a video that, for those who didn't see it, they can just go to your YouTube channel, I guess, and watch it.

[27] But Bishop Strickland actually tweeted that he had approved what you did.

[28] Father, I should say Bishop Strickland, can you tell us why you sent that tweet to Father Altman?

[29] Yes, we were talking about it just a moment ago.

[30] What really motivated me to take that step was Father Altman was talking about the very basic issue of the sanctity of life.

[31] That is intrinsic evil to take a human life, an innocent human life to just simply murder is intrinsically evil.

[32] There's no good reason.

[33] There's no acceptable reason where the circumstances can say, well, you can murder a person if you have these circumstances.

[34] It simply is a treasure from God that we can't take.

[35] That's what really, I mean, Father Altman and I could talk about some of the other issues he raised.

[36] We'd have different prudential judgments about some of those things and how do we handle the border issues and some of those things that have been broken for many, many years.

[37] But what really motivated me is we've got to recognize that taking a stance that up until birth, a child can be murdered in the womb.

[38] That's the stance that the party is taken.

[39] And that taking that stance takes them out of the conversation of civil discussion and civil discourse between political parties.

[40] It's a whole other level.

[41] It's like Nazi Germany in the USA in 2020.

[42] And people get all upset when you mention Nazi journey, but that's what it comes down to.

[43] Of course.

[44] Jewish people by Hitler and his Nazi regime were designated as not qualifying as human beings.

[45] That's exactly what is happening with the unborn.

[46] And we've got to speak up against it.

[47] I don't want to be like those Germans all those centuries or all those decades ago that didn't speak up.

[48] And they could have stopped Hitler if enough people had said, this is evil, this is horrible, but they were complacent.

[49] It's the same thing happening, the same dynamic.

[50] Most people don't believe it's really happening.

[51] Some people like to pretend, oh, well, that's just tissue or it's just a woman's body.

[52] It's not anymore the woman's body than one of the three of us men are part of somebody else's body.

[53] It's a different human being.

[54] scientifically we know that but people like to ignore the science when it's convenient and so obviously I get a little revved up I don't have to do push -ups I don't have to drink coffee as a shepherd of souls amen I promise we've talked about before I promise to guard the deposit of faith well someone if you were installed as pastor in the installation of a pastor it says the same thing to the priest, that they are to protect the deposit of faith.

[55] What is the deposit of faith?

[56] That we are created in the image and likeness of God, that human beings from conception to natural death are valuable.

[57] And we need to be protected from euthanasia, from abortion, from all the different threats to life that come along.

[58] But if you can't manage to be born into this world, then there's no issue.

[59] I've tweeted that.

[60] different ways before.

[61] There's no issue that really matters.

[62] You're dead and you don't worry about the right to good housing or the right to immigrate from one nation to another or the right to anything and you've been murdered.

[63] And for the society to simply say, this is a right that should be protected, the right to murder another person.

[64] That's a dangerous path to go down.

[65] And what I argue is why are we seeing so much violence, so much disrespect, disregard for human life?

[66] I believe it's rooted in, we as a nation have said, unborn life doesn't matter.

[67] So if that most innocent life can be threatened, then somebody just walking up and shooting another person for no good reason, you know, where's the rationale that, oh, that's wrong, but taking a scalpel to a child, oh, that's wrong.

[68] born yet it's just it to me it's so clear i get a little frustrated you can probably yeah i'm a little frustrated that people argue against it and then like father altman i mean they get all upset about the prudential judgment statements that he made that yeah you can have a different opinion about some of those things but what i spoke to was the sanctity of life and if we could get that right as a culture as a nation really worldwide now pretty much.

[69] If we could get that right, then yeah, we need to tackle other justice issues and in taking care of the poor.

[70] All of that comes out of the gospel.

[71] But if the people have been eliminated before they can even be born, they don't really worry about any of the beatitudes because they're not alive to have an attitude.

[72] Bishop Strickland, well said.

[73] Now, Father James Altman, you had a video that you really passionately similarly said something similar to what Bishop Strickland just said.

[74] But give me a question I have is your response to the bishop.

[75] And also, why did you do the video?

[76] Because you mentioned that earlier that you didn't think you'd have this kind of response.

[77] But what made you motivated to just tell it like it is regarding, especially the human life issue, unborn children?

[78] Sure.

[79] Yeah, good question.

[80] First of all, after it came out, there was, There was an immediate backlash from, I guess it would call it the left and indicative of who they are and what is the core of their being was the vileness that with which they reacted.

[81] It wasn't, well, I disagree.

[82] You know, I guess we're always going to disagree about something.

[83] It was a vile, vile attack.

[84] my administrator downstairs is a precious woman, a mother, and her brother's a bishop in Chile.

[85] And she keeps me in line.

[86] And I'm very blessed by that.

[87] In her grace, she would, she'd be getting these horrific phone calls from the left.

[88] And she would joke with me, she'd say, Father, I've learned some new words today.

[89] But I won't, I'm not going to say them because I can't repeat them.

[90] No, no. I saw that in the very few, very first few days when it appeared that we attacked the agenda of the left that they, well, you see it in the streets of the big cities.

[91] That is the way they react.

[92] It is always the case.

[93] So if that doesn't tell us all we need to know about how vile and despicable they are, you know, in their conduct, right?

[94] So you are what you do and you become what you practice.

[95] And that's what they've become.

[96] That's what they're practicing.

[97] I have a lot of sympathy for them.

[98] They're vileness but um so i wasn't prepared for that i didn't anticipate that kind of a response so in the midst of that so you're feeling kind of alone because because that was all i heard about and all the sudden bishop strickland comes out with that tweet and i have to tell you the i was over across the street after mass earlier in the day and was telling telling Christianers that my heroes, I think it's the top five heroes, we came with Cardinal Burke and then Archbishop Biganoe and the German Cardinal, who's so good, one of the Burroughs of the Dubia.

[99] And then Bishop Schneider, of course, and I mentioned Bishop Strickland because I've known of him in his glorious reputation for years.

[100] And then later that day, someone tweeted me his tweet.

[101] And I have to tell you, when you're alone, when you feel alone, and a hero, we, that words, the words that he used in his humility, that I don't, I guess to describe how I, when I get overwhelmed, I get, it's like you can't breathe and your eyes start to burn and you choke up, I guess is the phrase.

[102] and I can't thank you enough, Bishop, because you came, you served, you brought grace into my life at a very important time.

[103] Then what happened was the pendulum swung back the other way, and all of a sudden, Lyside has 66 ,000 signatures that they delivered to Bishop Callahan saying, you know, we support every word he said.

[104] And why not?

[105] Because, of course, you know, what Bishop was talking about in who we are, formed in the NIMs and likeness of God, of course that's as old as Genesis, but this isn't something that he and I are just, you know, well, we right ring radicals on this issue.

[106] Listen, it was chopping up a baby in the mother's womb, doing anything to that baby in the mother's room, since in Abraham's day was completely evil.

[107] We understood that.

[108] And then you go forward, of course, the Didicate, which was in the first hundred years.

[109] It was the first catechism of the apostles.

[110] And I think it's, I use it paragraph two, is it?

[111] We're just simply states with utter and complete clarity, you can't do.

[112] that to the unborn baby so that what he and i are saying today was one of the non -negotiables you can't mess with the baby you know he he beautifully used the word murder i think we can use that as a good description for that word i accurately used the word murder and it is murder and when you when you know exactly how that murder takes place how it's Bishop Strickland, I mean, Father James Altman, we've got to take a quick break.

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[135] Welcome back to the Bishop Strickland Hour.

[136] We have Father James Altman on the air with us.

[137] He was explaining for those who just tuned in how he felt when Bishop Strickland sent him a tweet that his friend sent to him, showing support for what he's doing.

[138] And so, Father James Altman, continue what you were saying before the break had to break up.

[139] I think I was leaving off with how they did okay.

[140] The Gatechism of the apostles specifically said, you cannot mess with the child in the womb.

[141] And Bishop Strickland, so, so, clearly called it murder, but when you even ponder how that is because, oh, you know, Stalin said one death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic, and we're getting a million babies murdered every year.

[142] But even that kind of just glosses, seems to gloss over too many people.

[143] When you look at the baby's body and how they go in in the most diabolical, tearing limb from limb, and then Then they do it in such a way as to sell body parts for more money.

[144] It's incomprehensibly.

[145] And they do $10 ,000 a Saturday because Saturday is the busy day.

[146] They do half of a half each, like there's 20 ,000 week roughly and half of them are on Saturday because that's when people are free and that's when they've got their Friday paycheck.

[147] And to say that we shouldn't be outraged about it is staggering to me. Listen, I can't be angry enough on screen, off screen, out in the street in my house.

[148] I cannot be angry enough about the vileness of taking that baby's life and chopping it to bits and then selling off the body parts besides.

[149] There is no human being.

[150] Father Altman, I know we both prayed about this and talked about it.

[151] And it really, people need to wake up to the evil.

[152] It is diabolical.

[153] it is evil and what the word that came to mind as you were speaking is our culture has monetized baby parts and it's a big industry and that's why a lot of people don't want it messed with because they're making big money i mean plain parenthood is admitted it on video and then the guy gets sued and all this garbage but the the reality is right there on video.

[154] We've got testimonies from everybody from Abby Johnson to many others that have thankfully converted from the evil.

[155] They've seen the evil that was happening.

[156] And literally, they're on a trade saying, okay, we've got to have, we've got to have the two legs, all the one leg's over here, the arms over there.

[157] We've got to put all the parts together because we don't want to leave one of those parts behind and get sued.

[158] I mean, that's what they're not even worried about the woman's health.

[159] They just don't want to get sued for having, And, you know, that's probably big bucks.

[160] You don't want to leave a arm there that can be sold or, you know, a great brain or, you know, it's just talking about, I mean, it's just diabolical as a word.

[161] Can you imagine one day, because it's going to happen to all of us, if you are actually, whether you're Catholic or Christian, if you, when you stand before our Lord and you have to say that, well, I thought it was okay.

[162] Because there is nobody, I was talking to Terry beforehand, and I said, and I don't believe for a minute that there isn't a single person in this country, no matter what side they're on, that doesn't understand that the Catholic Church thinks that's as evil as can be.

[163] And so there's going to be no excuse when they stand before our Lord.

[164] So then I say to myself, well, then do they even really believe in our Lord?

[165] Because if you did, you'd be slightly concerned about, well, air on the side of caution.

[166] And I don't think it's a baby, but if he does, if he does, and I stand before him one day, I better just maybe, it's like Pascal's Wager, right?

[167] You're going to try to err on the side of, well, I'm going to stand before him, and I don't want to be on the wrong side of this issue.

[168] So do they really believe there's a lot of pretenders.

[169] And they show up in churches of all denominations around this country, and they're pretending.

[170] Well, do you remember, do you remember Tiller the killer, right?

[171] That guy out in Kansas.

[172] So a guy comes in and he kills him, right?

[173] because he's been chopping up babies partial birth abortion the most wow no matter what else you say about what might be a clump of cells in there you pull the baby half out and slaughter it with your own hands anyway so this was a lutheran church right a one -off lutheran church of one of the 47 ,000 different animations the pastor gets up that weekend and he says to his people well george is in heaven today and heaven's a better place for it what kind of mentality but you someone who dares to call himself a christian could possibly say that tiller the killer is in heaven and heaven's better for it someone who thinks it's okay to put the people flew in from all over the country because he would pull that baby halfway out almost maybe 75 of the way out and snippets neck in just like that guy and was gosnell what a horrific film that was so so i don't know i think the key is people don't really believe they don't believe in hell because what you said And many people do interpret it really as the greatest charity.

[174] I mean, if you and I as pastors believe you keep walking down this path, you're going to be condemned to hell.

[175] That's where the Gaticism says.

[176] I mean, it's intrinsically evil.

[177] If you're doing intrinsically evil things, thankfully, God is the judge.

[178] We don't, the church has never declared anyone to be in hell.

[179] But we have declared these actions, but you in grave danger.

[180] The greatest charity is to warn somebody.

[181] I mean, this society is going off a cliff and to just sort of coast along and say, well, we don't want to disturb anyone because, you know, it might get scary if we tell them they're going off a cliff.

[182] That's the greatest charity is to tell the truth.

[183] Yes.

[184] Let me let me. Go ahead, father.

[185] When I was in high school or teaching the kids in high school, I taught them what I called the life lesson of the, the train trestle.

[186] Because when I was a boy, little boy, there was a train trestle in this very rural town.

[187] And it was a guy that seemed bigger than it is, but it seemed like about 50 feet anyway, down to the drive.

[188] So my parents say, do not go out and play on that train trestle because you're going to get distracted.

[189] You know, how you drop stones into the little trickle and see him go like that's what kids.

[190] That's what boys do.

[191] And you're not going to know that the 510 train is coming.

[192] And the next thing, you're going to be stuck out there in the middle, and here comes the train.

[193] So if you're standing on the side of the bank, and you see those boys out there playing, and you know it's like 505, and you know the 510 train is coming, you're not going to say, well, let me see.

[194] Let me see if I can have discourse with them, social discourse with, you know, it's probably a good idea to get off the trains.

[195] No, you're going to holler at them.

[196] Get off the train tussle before you get hit by the train.

[197] Well, same thing like Bishop Strickman was saying.

[198] If our souls are mortal danger from an intrinsic evil, and we don't even have the guts to say it's evil, much less tell a person who's involved in it.

[199] I mean, it's one of the spiritual works of mercy to admires the sinner and struck the ignorant.

[200] Well, then it's like that passage from Ezekiel, then we're in trouble too.

[201] Let me just ask a question because I think Father Bill Casey said, the most merciless thing we can do is let someone wallow in their sin.

[202] Now, that's what I'm hearing both of you saying, that we need to get the message out to our flock.

[203] We need to teach people, and bishops are to teach, govern and sanctify.

[204] I get that.

[205] Father, you're a pastor of your family.

[206] You're teaching people the faith.

[207] What's going on?

[208] What are we missing?

[209] Because I'm going to be honest, I've been doing this for 40 years involved with evangelization.

[210] And the message is not getting to Joe Sixpack in the pew because he's missing.

[211] the meaning and purpose of life he acts just like secular people no different they vote like secular people um first father jim i want to ask your take what can we do to change that the uh when i was in seminary you may have heard me say this before but we were admonished repeatedly to never have homily more than seven minutes and and i used to say well if your eternal salvation could be had on seven minutes a week then you're a better man than i am and so it's a pastor's duty is to i mean there's two parts of the holy sacrifice of the mass there's this part of the sacred scripture where you're supposed to then explain it all remember remember i think it was uh oh who was it was it ezra nehemi somebody's out there and it's like four hours worth of talking and the people were wrapped attention so so we have to teach and teach with authority the authority of the catholic church the unchanged and changeable truth and if we're not teaching i mean i just had a priest tell me about a week ago he's forbidden to use the word aborting because people are too sensitive.

[212] Well, what are you supposed to do with that?

[213] So I guess, and it's kind of funny because I thought when this whole thing started here a few months ago, I thought I was only teaching my own people that were watching my live stream because they wanted, they couldn't get in, we weren't allowed to let them into church.

[214] So they would watch it, they'd be like park along the roadway and watching on the Wi -Fi and then they would come in after church, eight at a time, could only have.

[215] have nine in there, and I was one of them, to receive Holy Communion, the bread of life, the real presence.

[216] So all of a sudden, I wasn't just teaching them.

[217] I was teaching quite a few more people.

[218] And that's how that, but so, so why, but then, so then in the universal thing that everybody's saying to me is, you've been starving for this.

[219] Nobody's saying this kind of stuff.

[220] I'm thinking, well, I thought we all said the same thing, but that's clearly, that's not the case.

[221] When you get a priest saying, well, I'm not even allowed to use the word.

[222] I've been ordered, to say the word when you have i'm sorry bishop but there's a there's a bishop in a neighboring state who said you if you preach more than five minutes i'm taking away your faculties well how about if we get somebody above him to say you know what any bishop that says something like that we're going to take away your faculties to be a bishop because how dare you restrict the the priest is supposed to teach the people that's you know when you say what was that at the act of ordination you get you receive the book of the gospel teach what you what you believe Well, yeah.

[223] And I really believe it is a crisis of faith.

[224] Like you said earlier, it's like I mean, I'm a bishop.

[225] And just because you're a bishop, just because you're a priest, just because you're a baptized Catholic is not some sort of reassurance that you're living the truth at all.

[226] And I think a lot of people are just sort of going through the motions.

[227] And what, What I want to emphasize is there isn't a person on the planet that isn't precious before God.

[228] Even the worst sinner, the worst abortionist, the worst politician that is just saying, kill, kill, kill, and we want to have the right to abort and infanticide is probably next down the road, God loves all of those people.

[229] But if we are supposed to live that love, then we're obligated as pastors to take.

[230] tell them the truth that's been revealed by Jesus Christ.

[231] We know in the gospel where he says, you know, people are amazed.

[232] They're amazed at his authority.

[233] Yes.

[234] You're not speaking in your name.

[235] I'm not speaking in my name.

[236] Joe Strickland doesn't know much except the Gaticism.

[237] The Gatechism is that the positive faith that is the voice of Jesus Christ in the world today.

[238] That's our obligation to teach it and to ignore a portion of it or basically, gloss over all of it, that is failing to answer.

[239] I mean, we both have to answer before God as well.

[240] And, you know, that's in my mind when I speak out on some of these things.

[241] I've got to guard the deposit of faith, just like I promised.

[242] And it, yeah, it gets people upset, but hopefully it wakes them up as well.

[243] Christ really taught the truth.

[244] Many people rejected Jesus.

[245] Christ, they crucified him for it.

[246] The martyrs through the ages, I love to say they didn't die for something.

[247] They kind of sort of maybe thought was good.

[248] They died because they knew the truth and the depths of their...

[249] They were willing to shed their blood.

[250] There's amazing.

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[263] We've got to.

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[271] It is not extra.

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[290] Welcome back to the Bishop Strickland Hour.

[291] My name's Terry Barber with Virgin Most Powerful radio.

[292] It's so beautiful to listen to Bishop Strickland and Father Jim Altman talking about our saving preciousness of life.

[293] And I just want to add something that the Vatican just came out and said, those who choose euthanasia cannot receive the sacraments.

[294] Bishop Strickland, Father Jim, this is the kind of clarity that I love to see coming out of the Vatican that just says what we've all known before, but sometimes we need to repeat it.

[295] And that's what I hear both of you doing, teaching nothing, not your personal opinion.

[296] Who cares?

[297] You're teaching what Christ is taught when it comes to morality.

[298] Now, Bishop Strickland, you were just talking, and I had to interrupt you because of the break.

[299] I want to let you finish your thought.

[300] Sorry about that, but we do have breaks.

[301] Go ahead.

[302] Remind me what my...

[303] Well, you were just talking about...

[304] I have the same problem.

[305] What?

[306] Yeah, you were just talking about the sacredness of life that we need to really stand up.

[307] And I guess my big question to you is to both of you is, I mean, you have your institute, Bishop Strickland, that you're teaching people the faith.

[308] People can all over the world can come to your diocese's website and get lots of resources.

[309] They can get resources from Virgin Most Power.

[310] with all of our recordings that people get.

[311] Father, Jim, you're teaching people the faith every.

[312] I've been watching you for months.

[313] And what can we do more?

[314] And then the other question I have for both of you is, and I'm going to be honest with you, there are people like, there's some Jesuits out there that Bishop Strickland, you've actually pointed out that why are they still going around the country teaching error when it comes to the morality on the faith?

[315] and I just want to ask you, Bishop Strickland, as a shepherd, as a layman, I would love to see more authority come out of the church to say that, you know, if you're going to be a dissenter, then you're going to be reprimanded because right now it seems like the guys that are teaching the church teachings of the faith are being reprimanded, and the guys that are dissenters are getting more affirmed by people in the church.

[316] Am I on to something or is that false?

[317] Yeah.

[318] You really speak about exactly what is obviously there.

[319] You get in trouble for teaching the truth because people, you know, don't want it.

[320] I think of Punch's Pilot before Christ, what is the truth?

[321] And then centuries later, I think of a movie where Jack Nicholson says, you can't handle the truth.

[322] That's my favorite love.

[323] Yes.

[324] Our world can't handle the truth.

[325] It should, but it can't.

[326] And I think one thing I want to point out, I love to be reminded of this when I celebrate baptisms, and I'm sure Father Altman can relate.

[327] When I talk at a baptism, it just, I love to hold the baby as I'm speaking.

[328] And in it, I'm always, I often remind people, in God's eyes, we are all simple children.

[329] We are all infants in comparison to the wonder of the universe and the wonder of God.

[330] He is beyond our understanding.

[331] So whether it's an 80 -year -old man or a eight -month -old in -the -womb baby or a one -year -old child, we are precious in his sight.

[332] And we are the greatest gift in the world.

[333] You know, we've all heard recently that, I mean, there even, I remember at one point, someone said that humanity was a virus on the planet.

[334] I saw that.

[335] Yeah.

[336] It's ridiculous.

[337] I mean, if we believe in God and it really does come down to, I think a lot of people will say they believe in God, but to really say, yes, I believe that this life is a passing flea.

[338] leading journey and we're destined.

[339] Our ultimate eternal home is with God in heaven.

[340] A lot of people just don't really buy that.

[341] And they certainly don't live as if they believe that.

[342] I'm sure, Father Altman, all three of us, Terry, I know you're a man of great faith.

[343] And through all this turmoil, it's really been since the really erupted in June of 2018.

[344] with all the another round of abuse, where does that come from?

[345] It comes from priests not really believing.

[346] I can't either they're totally insane and there may be some insanity there.

[347] I mean, what's the definition of insanity?

[348] But certainly they seem to be able to navigate life and act reasonably in most situations.

[349] But it is not reasonable for, I mean, I know for Father Altman, I've never, he's never been to a mass that I celebrated.

[350] I've never been to a mass that he celebrated.

[351] But I know from what he's saying, he knows that is a sacred moment that deserves great reverence and respect.

[352] And how do you just have evidence that some of these things have been perpetrated by priests?

[353] I mean, I'm a sinner.

[354] We all are.

[355] We go to confession.

[356] We try to purify our lives.

[357] We try to live virtuously.

[358] but I sin, and that's why I need to go back to confession.

[359] But for a priest to stand at the altar of Jesus Christ and be living a duplicitous life and abusing children or whatever's going on, that is, it's hard to fathom.

[360] And the only way I can even get an understanding of all that is that they don't really believe.

[361] They don't really believe.

[362] And I said that on the floor of the bishop's meeting.

[363] I remember a couple of meetings ago.

[364] Yep.

[365] Do we believe this or not?

[366] I believe it.

[367] I don't like a great theologian or a great scripture scholar.

[368] I'm not a great anything.

[369] Except maybe I'll, I'm working on being a great believer.

[370] Amen.

[371] Great believer in the deposit of faith.

[372] It's beautiful.

[373] It's joyful.

[374] It's life giving.

[375] It's hopeful.

[376] But people reject it because we're selfish.

[377] We're prideful.

[378] All of us are.

[379] And the world is promoting that prideful spirit in ways that are truly destructive.

[380] I mean, you mentioned this, the priest that I don't have to mention his name.

[381] Everybody knows who I'm talking about.

[382] Yeah, we do.

[383] I mentioned it.

[384] And he started that.

[385] He got mad.

[386] Well, he's come after me a few times.

[387] But just read the catechism.

[388] Read the letters of Paul.

[389] read the deposit of faith, read the Didicate, read the basic teachings, and unless you have a big eraser or a huge delete button, you just have to say, oh, yeah, that's what it says, okay, if we're going to just reach the conversation that says, okay, yes, the catechism says this, the word of God says this, but I don't believe it.

[390] And actually, I've heard statements by people that would support, Father James Martin, said the name.

[391] Oh, yeah, what we're talking about.

[392] We do.

[393] I've heard people that support that, and they basically say, oh, yes, this needs to be changed, whether it's the catechism, we need to change that wording because it's too judgmental.

[394] Well, if it's intrinsic evil, it needs to be kind of judgmental.

[395] Amen.

[396] Well, it could maybe sort of be wrong if you aren't sitting in the right direction.

[397] And, you know, it's wrong.

[398] Exactly.

[399] It's harmful to human beings.

[400] And I've had many people say that they appreciate me speaking up because they've gone down that harmful path.

[401] And by the grace of God, they've awakened to the harm they were doing themselves and others.

[402] And they waked up.

[403] God loves us all.

[404] That's why he's revealed his truth through his son.

[405] And we need to listen instead of saying, I want to do it my way.

[406] bunch of spoiled kids.

[407] And I include myself.

[408] I need to grow up.

[409] We all do.

[410] Father James, your response?

[411] So if I don't I don't understand how the unchanged and changeable truth can be interpreted can be changed by some of these modernists that think they have a better idea of God's rule, God's law, God's, which was all, like Bishop kept saying that God loves us.

[412] So he's only telling us stuff for our own good, like any parent would, right?

[413] And it's out of this love that he tells us these things.

[414] So for someone like James Martin or his ilk to lie to people about what the truth is.

[415] You know, you have to, when Bishop was saying that people must not have faith, then you see people like him, they truly don't believe.

[416] They don't have faith in the unchange, unchangeable truth.

[417] They're making it up as they go along.

[418] They think that it's pride, it's arrogance.

[419] But the thing is, however, whatever area of sin that's in all our lives, and we all are sinners, as Bishop said so eloquently, we all are, you know, St. John Paul, the second went to confession once a week and Father John Hardin went daily, if he could.

[420] So as we grow closer to God, we realize our own weakness, our own sinfulness.

[421] It's because we're broken.

[422] And how do you fix that?

[423] You fix it through healing.

[424] That's the whole point of the priest.

[425] When I was a lawyer, regularly, the incidence of child sexual abuse that you see in society is a thousand times worse than anything we ever saw in this scandal that the media has blown out of proportion to the rest of society it's one is too many in the church but one is too many out in society well when I when I as a lawyer I could stop the bleeding I could stop the wounding of children but I couldn't bring the healing grace of God to them and now as as a priest we can we can do this but that whether it's a child or whether it's an adult if there's a woundedness we can bring that healing to them i got um you know of course i did get a lot of like negative things in the mail as did the bishop and but i got some of the most profound profound uh i won't call them thank you so i would call them expressions from the heart of how whatever was said and a guy didn't see this coming it just happened but whatever was said brought that grace to them And if you speak the truth, that's where the grace.

[426] Grace does not come from the lie.

[427] It comes from the truth.

[428] And these people whose lives were literally changed, they came back to church or they were thinking of leaving the church and decided not to go.

[429] Like I can't tell you the number of non -Catholics who have written and express their interior, because truth speaks to the heart.

[430] So if we speak to truth, we bring healing.

[431] And one of the most beautiful, I'll just give you one example.

[432] I'm not sure if I'm pronouncing his name correctly, but he sent me...

[433] Hang on a second, Father, this is a good teaser.

[434] We've got to take a break, Rick, break.

[435] I want to hear this story about the man who sent that to you.

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[458] Welcome back to the Bishop Strickland Hour.

[459] I have Bishop Strickland here and Father James Altman.

[460] Father Altman, you are telling us a story from one of the people responding to your video.

[461] And please share that story now.

[462] Sure.

[463] Can I just ask a quick question?

[464] And that music we just heard, oh, God beyond all praise.

[465] Yes.

[466] Is that, can the people hear that too?

[467] Absolutely.

[468] Okay, because that is a song.

[469] They play at every one of our ordinations.

[470] And it lists our soul to heaven.

[471] That's why we use it.

[472] Yeah, wow.

[473] Anyway, so in that very first video, I think it was, I talked about how, about love to know love and serve God.

[474] And how I had to know somebody to love them.

[475] And then if I loved them, I would serve them.

[476] And I said, I don't love anybody in Borneo because I don't know anybody in Borneo.

[477] And since then, and I just got another email from Borneo yesterday.

[478] I now have family.

[479] My dear family extends even to Borneo.

[480] I had to look at it up on a map.

[481] I wasn't even sure where it was.

[482] I just said, I don't even know where that place is.

[483] That's why it seems to be far and distant.

[484] Well, here's an example of how through this grace is speaking the truth, your family actually grows.

[485] And when I say dear family, if I don't love them, everywhere, everyone, what am I even doing in a church?

[486] What am I even?

[487] That's why I don't get why the priests aren't speaking up, some of them.

[488] I mean, some are.

[489] I've gotten incredible comments from some of them that if I love somebody, the greatest love I could give them is to bring the grace of truth to them.

[490] And sometimes, I read so many beautiful.

[491] beautiful letters.

[492] Even today, there's one city down there that's at the top of the stack that I have to answer.

[493] And this isn't this, what I'm about to tell you is an example.

[494] One of those things that says, yeah, this is why we do what we do, because we spread grace and love of our dear family.

[495] So there's a person, I'm not even quite sure how to spell his name, but I know he's kind of famous.

[496] And his name is Joseph.

[497] And I'll spell it for you, S -C -I -M -B -R -A.

[498] He's from out there in California.

[499] I know him.

[500] I know Siambra.

[501] I know him.

[502] Yeah.

[503] He was a former homosexual.

[504] Porn.

[505] He wrote, he was abused as a child.

[506] That's right.

[507] In a verbal way.

[508] And he wrote me a handwritten letter.

[509] Okay, in their handwritten, okay, I pay special attention.

[510] Yes.

[511] An amazing letter.

[512] I won't say what he said is private from him to me. Sure.

[513] And he sent me his book, which now I just, you know, when it's over there.

[514] There it is.

[515] I have it.

[516] There we go.

[517] Yes.

[518] Even sent me a copy of his book because you get you these big yellow envelopes saying, what is this?

[519] And so it's at the top of my reading file, which I hope to get too soon.

[520] Yeah.

[521] Anyway, it was deeply moving to me that someone, unlike James Martin, who incited evil.

[522] And he tried to say he didn't.

[523] He did.

[524] And his minions, here's somebody that.

[525] wrote a deeply meaningful letter to me. And if he listens to your show, he's been on our show many times.

[526] Well, tell him I said, I will.

[527] Or I guess I can tell him.

[528] Thank you.

[529] Father, you just used the L word, love.

[530] Amen.

[531] That's one of the most misunderstood.

[532] I mean, the people really believe in God.

[533] Yeah.

[534] They believe the concept of good and evil, heaven and hell.

[535] But the whole issue of love and what love really is willing the good of the other is is so lost love is a feeling oh they love each other but they're taking each other to hell amen but they love each other so we've got to be nice to them and we can't say anything about what they're doing because they love each other and i mean here in these texts i i love to spell it or pronounce it love l you because that's really what it is it isn't God is love.

[536] And in English, we're so limited because we try to cram everything into those four letters instead of having the different nuances that Greek or Latin or other languages have.

[537] Even the romance languages, they're different ideas expressed by different kinds of love.

[538] For us in English, it's all love.

[539] And people don't know what it is.

[540] The idea of the sacrificial love of the Son of God is so far.

[541] beyond people that when they say they love each other, they, they really don't.

[542] And I think we have to really be aware of that.

[543] I want to speak to the election that's coming up because that's really what, in a lot of ways, from what I remember of your video, Father Altman, and one thing, I loved it when you're talking about, if you know God and you love God, you've got, there's certain consequences.

[544] There's certain truths that have to guide you.

[545] With this election, I think it needs to be very clear that God loves every politician, every person, everyone that's involved in this election, God loves them really beyond our imagining.

[546] And we need to love each other.

[547] But real love is not just saying, well, that you're a. opinion.

[548] Certainly, there are things that are your opinion.

[549] I mean, God didn't tell us we have to wear a certain color all the time or, you know, there are zillions of things in life that are prudential judgments.

[550] And that's one of the beauties of this nation is people have the freedom to choose, whether they want to live in a tiny house or a larger house or what it looks like, what color they paint it.

[551] We're not a nation.

[552] that says, you've got to use this color only.

[553] I mean, that isn't human.

[554] Some societies get into that and they basically tell people everything.

[555] And from top down, that's what I'm afraid we're moving more and more to really with any of the parties.

[556] It's more and more top down.

[557] And we've lost the basic concept of subsidiarity where Father Altman is a man and Joe Strickland is a man and Terry Barber as a man, we have to decide in our own heart, forming our conscience, what is right, what kind of life do I want to live?

[558] That is the first point of subsidiarity.

[559] Then it expands beyond that.

[560] We're living in a world.

[561] It is a world now, not just the nation, but worldwide.

[562] It's like, you know, a lot of people dream of this huge global entity that just controls everything and tells us you can drive here and you can live there and you can eat that and you can spend your money this way.

[563] That isn't human, much less what this beautiful nation is founded on, but a lot of people are wanting to move it in that direction.

[564] I think what I wanted to emphasize is that every person involved is precious in the eyes of God, is valuable, is is sacred and it's because of that that Father Altman and I and in the ministry of the radio that Terry Barber is involved in.

[565] That's why we have to speak up.

[566] Amen.

[567] Because God loves.

[568] Not because we're after this evil and we hate people that do this and that.

[569] It's because God loves us.

[570] We've got to tell them this is what our loving God has revealed to us.

[571] And it's, you know, like I said earlier, it's so self -evident to me. I'm not very effective at trying to convince people.

[572] I'm not a good apologist because I just can't imagine how people can believe some of these things that are being promoted more and more in society.

[573] And it's destructive to the human person individually.

[574] It's destructive to the family.

[575] And when it's destructive, the person and the family, it destructive to the community, community to the city and to the nation.

[576] It all expands from there.

[577] If we're devaluing the individual person, that is undermining everything we do.

[578] Well, so Bishop Strickland, I'm going to put you on the spot.

[579] I've done that before with Father James Altman.

[580] Is he the kind of priest you'd welcome into your diocese if he had the opportunity?

[581] That's my question.

[582] I'm putting you right on the spot.

[583] Absolutely.

[584] They need him in Wisconsin, and I hope he flourishes there for until he doesn't need to retire.

[585] He needs to just die in the sudden.

[586] Amen.

[587] I love it.

[588] I love it.

[589] That's what I say too.

[590] He would be absolutely welcome here, and I'm blessed to have many priests that are maybe not speaking in exactly the same way because our flocks are different, but many priests who appreciated his speaking up and are trying to do their best to do the same thing with their flock.

[591] So he'd be absolutely welcome here.

[592] I hope my priests would be welcome there.

[593] We need to be more unified.

[594] Amen.

[595] That's what I would point out.

[596] I've been accused of dividing and, oh, you know, you're creating division.

[597] I want to say very clearly, I am not creating division.

[598] Nope.

[599] Yet division is there.

[600] There's sad division in the church and the body of Christ among priests, among bishops.

[601] All across the board, there is division.

[602] but the truth is never going to create division except for dividing it from the falsehood.

[603] But that, if we're living the truth, will be more and more united, more united than ever.

[604] The scriptures say that, you know, the blessing for those who live and dwell in unity.

[605] And that's what Christ prays for.

[606] I mean, the body of Christ is divided enough from one denomination to another.

[607] Sadly, it's divided even within the Catholic Church.

[608] But real unity doesn't come at the price of sacrificing the truth.

[609] Amen.

[610] Well said.

[611] Father James Altman, your final thoughts before we get a blessing from the bishop.

[612] Sure.

[613] So, you know, as we look around at the world around us and all that's happening, especially as it relates to this election, you know, I wondered to myself, how much more evidence will it take to convince people that God, God's love is the answer.

[614] They just don't seem to know this.

[615] You know that as Bishop said, God absolutely loves us all.

[616] It's never a question that God loves us.

[617] He loves every one of us, the worst sinners among us.

[618] He loved Judas.

[619] He called him my friend in the garden.

[620] The question is never whether God loves us is whether we love them back, but we won't love them if we don't know him.

[621] And so many people don't know him, but I think there's a little culpability going on there.

[622] Jesus said that if you love me, this is how we know if we love it.

[623] He said, you know, John 14, 15 and John 1514, that beautiful testament at the last supper said, if you love me, you'll keep my commandments.

[624] So if people are keeping the commandments, then they are.

[625] It's because they love them, and that's because they do know them.

[626] And it's just that so many people don't know them.

[627] And I don't, you know, Bishop and I can talk to them are blue in the face.

[628] But if they won't listen, there's none so deaf as those who will not hear.

[629] So I hope that the evidence that comes through all that the terror in our country and destruction, I hope that that actually moves their hearts to healing and to come to know God's love.

[630] Because once you do, these questions resolve themselves.

[631] They're not issues anymore because you love.

[632] Another one that's said in today's gospel is who is the family of Jesus or his mother and brothers, those who hear the word of God and act on it.

[633] That's another way of saying, those who live the loving commandments of God.

[634] Wow, let me just finish with this.

[635] If you pray well, you'll live well.

[636] If you live well, you'll die well.

[637] If you die well, all will be well.

[638] Bishop Strickland, how about a final blessing?

[639] The Lord be with you.

[640] And with your spirit.

[641] Almighty God, we ask your blessing for everyone listening that if they've heard challenging words, that their hearts will be open to truth.

[642] that all of us may be converted more and more deeply to the truth and to the wonder of God's profound love for us all.

[643] And we ask this blessing, in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.

[644] Amen.

[645] Thanks again.

[646] God love you.

[647] Full Sheen ahead.

[648] Thank Faustina's prayer for priests.

[649] Oh, my Jesus, I beg thee on behalf of the whole church, grant it love and the light of thy spirit, and give power to the words of priests so that hardened, hearts might be brought to repentance and return to thee, O Lord.

[650] Lord, give us holy priests, thou thyself maintain them in holiness.

[651] O divine and great high priest, may the power of thy mercy accompany them everywhere and protect them from the devil's traps and snares, which are continually being set for the souls of priests.

[652] May the power of thy mercy, O Lord, shatter and bring to naught all that might tarnish the sanctity of priests for thou canst do all things amen virgin most powerful pray for us virgin most powerful radio sharing the gospel with clarity and charity