217 - Live at the Cobb Energy Performing Arts Centre in Atlanta (2018)

[0] This is exactly right.

[1] What'd you say?

[2] It's humongous.

[3] It's so loud.

[4] Oh my, really?

[5] Is this open air?

[6] It's funny.

[7] I was having lunch earlier and these two sweet girls sent me a cocktail over and I was like, thank you.

[8] I'll see you tonight.

[9] Are you going to be the drunk girls in the front?

[10] They're like, no, we're cheap.

[11] We bought tickets way up there.

[12] Oh, hi.

[13] Yeah.

[14] There's no need to guess.

[15] That's insane.

[16] Fucking live your life up there Listen to other podcasts while you're there Get shit done Catch up We're in Georgia And my name is Georgia You got it The Southern Hospitality I swear to God I mean this isn't We just got here So this is from last night in New Orleans But But, okay.

[17] I'm developing a weird stage personality, and she says stuff like that.

[18] Okay.

[19] No, but we got there.

[20] It was nighttime.

[21] They didn't have room service.

[22] I ordered from a restaurant called Daisy Dukes.

[23] God bless it.

[24] Just a small pair of jeans, fried.

[25] Fried jeans, side of okra.

[26] And it's also like, this is what you're not going to be able to be able to where when you get this fucking food.

[27] I saw that menu.

[28] Shit.

[29] When there's inside orders when chili cheese fries is listed in side orders.

[30] You know you're in fire.

[31] Fucking treat.

[32] Do you want to...

[33] Are you getting entire fried cod?

[34] Well, get some fucking chili cheese fries on the side.

[35] Treat yourself.

[36] So, I went down to get it and when I went back into the elevator, a guy walked into the elevator with me and he was laughing.

[37] and this, because he was walking like pig pen in this huge cloud of weed, like, and he gets in the elevator with me, he goes, man, it smells like weed around here, which of course made me laugh really hard.

[38] So then he saw that I wasn't a narc, and then he did one of my favorite checkouts of all time.

[39] he, because he started from the back.

[40] He goes, what's up, girl?

[41] No face at all.

[42] He didn't give a shit.

[43] He didn't care about all this work that I do.

[44] Here's what he cared about.

[45] You laughed at his joke.

[46] I laughed at his dumb fucking joke.

[47] And you have a butt.

[48] That's it.

[49] He could easily assume I was high as well.

[50] And he was like, I see that butt you got back there, girl.

[51] It was hilarious.

[52] So I called the police and I had him arrested on two counts.

[53] But how were the chili cheese fries?

[54] Oh my God.

[55] There was a strange...

[56] Everything in Norlands has a red shit sprinkled on it.

[57] And that's not for me. Do you know what I love about the South and places like this is that, because we're from Los Angeles where like everything is fucking gluten -free and vegan and you have to ask, is this vegetarian if you don't want it to be vegetarian?

[58] You have to ask and make sure this fucking meat on it.

[59] I need gluten in mine, please.

[60] I need gluten and I need protein in animal form.

[61] But here you, everything has meat, even if it's like, like I got cheese enchiladas at lunch, covered in meat sauce.

[62] Like that was the best.

[63] Like a bolognese on top of some enchiladas?

[64] Chili con porn.

[65] It was like any, you could just, see a girl or a guy, you know, either one, in Los Angeles, losing their shit that I didn't say on the menu that there's meat happening.

[66] I didn't realize I was going to be in a room with meat.

[67] Excuse me!

[68] This building is meat -free.

[69] It's my favorite.

[70] I love it.

[71] You know what?

[72] Now that I think about it, because I got collared greens in my room.

[73] Thank you.

[74] Yes, I should be applauded for that.

[75] Absolutely.

[76] I've earned it.

[77] and when it came it honestly looked like a side of ham with some greens in it.

[78] It really did.

[79] I'm super good.

[80] I'm fucking into it, dude.

[81] So much.

[82] Hamhawks in there.

[83] When I was at lunch, speaking of lunch, this is a lunch podcast.

[84] This is a lunch podcast.

[85] If it's anything.

[86] There was a dude.

[87] We were at the spins and I was sitting at the bar and there was like a couple over here that sat down and like they were not, they were from so much.

[88] where like houses are spread apart and their barn and their ranch i don't know the country yeah okay he i mean the look on his face when the woman serving him told that they didn't have like bud light miller light course light any fucking normal beer silent when she was like did you want something like he was so angry yes it was pretty amazing that might have been my dad because I swear to God we've left restaurants if they don't have Budweiser I swear to God and then she was like we have he's like give me a Corona and she was like okay we have Corona on draft or we have Corona extra in the bottle and he was so mad that he had to answer another fucking question he literally when she walked away he was just like I don't know why do I have to answer 40 questions for a beer it was my favorite thing was he bald with a mustache I swear to God my dad's here.

[89] Let's get into the family hour.

[90] You guys.

[91] Family stuff, guys.

[92] Stop talking about lunch.

[93] Stuff.

[94] And go to dinner.

[95] Brunch.

[96] Waffle House.

[97] Oh, fuck.

[98] You guys.

[99] Oh, yeah.

[100] This is how L .A. we are.

[101] You go, oh, we can't go there for brunch tomorrow.

[102] And I'm like, I don't think.

[103] This may have happened here, so I'm probably telling you.

[104] and we probably talked it on the podcast, but it's my favorite story to the point where if you've all heard it already, but there's only five people that haven't, I think it's worth telling.

[105] Did you hear the story about the guy that wants a Waffle House one night, and when he got in there, everyone was asleep.

[106] Everyone that worked there was asleep.

[107] So he made his own breakfast.

[108] That's the America I want back.

[109] Now we go political.

[110] Hey.

[111] No. Let's talk about our outfits.

[112] Great.

[113] You leave.

[114] You have to leave.

[115] Me?

[116] Yeah.

[117] Well, I'm only wearing 1970s and 80s dresses from now because there's just so much elastic happening in this fucking way.

[118] Yes, girl.

[119] Yes.

[120] Look at her manage.

[121] Ooh.

[122] Yes.

[123] Spin it.

[124] Look at her.

[125] Manage that office at IBM, girl.

[126] Yes.

[127] Get that phone treat together.

[128] Sorry.

[129] rolling calls.

[130] I can't talk right now.

[131] When I wear heels, I just feel like a little kid in my mom's heels and just want to do like yes.

[132] And then I got my never -ending story fucking pendant.

[133] So magical.

[134] How about you?

[135] Well.

[136] Turns out.

[137] No, no. Please.

[138] I hate unearned clapping.

[139] I have a dress that I brought on this one, this tour.

[140] that worked out great on the last leg, the Phoenix Vegas leg.

[141] Oh, dudes, that was insane.

[142] But in between, I washed it.

[143] So, last night, we were, like, standing on stage in New Orleans.

[144] And I was just like, this is shorter.

[145] Luckily, I had these insane quadruple ply spank's tights on.

[146] They were like, they were made of this.

[147] It was, like, wearing this tablecloth as tights.

[148] so nothing happened but as we were getting ready you know merely 10 minutes ago I was like not putting that dress on again I just I can't it's short enough so that I just kind of look like a toddler that wandered on stage with makeup on talk about like wearing your mom's outfit just like I have a dress on it's a romper but look how I don't want these shoes on anymore now.

[149] Take them off.

[150] No. I feel fucking fancy.

[151] It's fine.

[152] I feel fancy.

[153] I do.

[154] You're going to keep them?

[155] Yeah.

[156] What about at some point in the show you're allowed to stop everything?

[157] Uh -huh.

[158] And say, it's time for me to take these shoes off.

[159] Yeah.

[160] And when you do, someone wins $10 ,000.

[161] Oh my God!

[162] I did that at a show before.

[163] I took my shoes off, and then halfway through it felt really fucking weird and uncomfortable because I had bare feet on a stage.

[164] And I was like, whatever, creeps here?

[165] I know.

[166] This is wrong.

[167] Google search, Georgia Hard Stark Feet.

[168] It's a thing.

[169] It is a thing.

[170] If I took my shoes off on stage, it would look like a buffalo.

[171] I think that's the most accurate.

[172] There's a hoofness to my feet.

[173] There's a winter untended.

[174] I'm always like, oh, shit, I got to bring these.

[175] somewhere.

[176] I got to get someone to do something, but I don't care.

[177] Well, Stephen should do your name.

[178] That's his new job.

[179] Nice one.

[180] Nice.

[181] Stephen, that's your new job.

[182] He's not here.

[183] He's probably listening at home.

[184] Oh, Stephen.

[185] He does nothing.

[186] My cats are not going to take care of themselves.

[187] So many photos.

[188] Today we even, um, Stephen and I decided, what houses the cats belong to in the Harry Potter world.

[189] Sorry.

[190] What's this again?

[191] Well, he sent me a photo of the three cats, and Doddy had this look in her face, and I was like, she's totally a Slytherin, and he was like, yeah.

[192] And Elvis is this, and Mimi's that.

[193] And it's like, it's true.

[194] You know what I mean?

[195] Elvis is Gryffindor.

[196] Yeah.

[197] Yeah.

[198] Of course he's fucking Grypenter.

[199] Mimi's Hufflepuff.

[200] Of course.

[201] It's just so obvious when you know your pets, they're like, well, these are the houses they're in.

[202] Totally.

[203] The feeling I have right now is the feeling that probably most of the younger people in this audience have when I talk about, like, the Dukes of Hazard or something.

[204] Where you're just like, I don't really know what any of this is.

[205] You didn't read it to your niece?

[206] I read the books.

[207] She read those herself.

[208] She wrote them.

[209] She wrote, oh, I'm sorry, my niece is J .K. Rowling.

[210] I should have started with that.

[211] No, no, I mean, I read the books, but I don't remember the personal qualities that it takes.

[212] I know Slytherin's evil.

[213] Yeah.

[214] And Gryffindor is what you want.

[215] Not evil, I'm sorry.

[216] Devious.

[217] Self -efficient.

[218] Blonde -haired, slick back.

[219] What the fuck?

[220] I can't remember the quiz.

[221] Sorry.

[222] He's not, Stephen's not here.

[223] We already told you that.

[224] Yeah, yeah.

[225] Told you that.

[226] Oh, did we tell you this is my favorite murder?

[227] That's what we That's what we missed That's Karen Kilgarev That's Georgia Heart Start And we are in Atlanta, George And you guys, you have a lot of murders Choices There's some cities we go to We're like, I couldn't find anything.

[228] What the fuck?

[229] Nope, not here.

[230] No No It was like we could have done a week long run here we're not do you want to sit down oh look at these what is this whole place futuristic is this the Starship Enterprise oh my gosh actually these chairs go with your dress really good do they do they do I look like I'm from the 70s future right like when I touch this boop it like something happens yes captain yes that's right that's your yes captain necklace.

[231] That's my, yes, Captain.

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[233] Absolutely.

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[252] Goodbye.

[253] Oh, I'm first tonight.

[254] Oh, are you?

[255] Oh, cool.

[256] Yeah.

[257] We've, uh, thank you.

[258] We've lost all track of who goes when, why.

[259] We tried to make up systems.

[260] You don't decide.

[261] We, we try to figure it out.

[262] we try to figure out what we should base it on if it's our experience, if it's your listening experience, none of it tracks, like none of it adds up.

[263] But we always yell at Stephen about it.

[264] Yeah, it's always Stephen's fault.

[265] And Steven's like, I don't know.

[266] I don't know the answer.

[267] You change the fucking rules every day.

[268] I'm trying to read 20 ,000 emails.

[269] And these cats are not going to Instagram themselves.

[270] I like in those Instagram stories there's always he's always saying some one weird little thing in the background You know what I mean?

[271] Elvis Elvis It's like you're seeing a cat Just sit there like lick its own hand And then you hear like A cat lick its own hand What if a cat Just had a hand Ugh What can you do One two, three, four, five Pee guys I'm a cat Here's my hair I just talked into the bottle of water I know what I expected it to work Did you?

[272] I really sold it Yeah Guys it's great Oh shit we should have brought our headset mics Oh man I wonder if those are wireless Like if he bought us the kind We could actually use in concert I don't think he did And can we tell you guys something?

[273] He hasn't set them up yet I don't think they work They're not real.

[274] I don't think they're real.

[275] I think they're candy.

[276] I think he bought them.

[277] We opened them.

[278] We loved them.

[279] We gave them to him and he returned them.

[280] Oh, my God.

[281] Steven.

[282] Yes.

[283] There is someone here that didn't want to come tonight but came anyway who has no fucking clue.

[284] Hates our guts.

[285] What's happening?

[286] Why anyone gives a shit?

[287] Who the fuck is Stephen?

[288] You there.

[289] Why are they so mean to him?

[290] I mean.

[291] You're being mean and you're just yelling Stephen.

[292] That's not a show.

[293] Is Stephen a cat?

[294] You hired a cat to sit your other cats.

[295] Dude.

[296] This smartest cat.

[297] That cat.

[298] He can open a bag of cat food.

[299] He can pour it.

[300] It's like when we were like nine and we got hired to babysit a baby.

[301] Yes.

[302] Because that's what happened in the 80s.

[303] So anyway, walk that half mile down to the Rutherford's house.

[304] Yeah.

[305] And take care of an infant.

[306] An infant.

[307] We're going to go drink for nine hours.

[308] See you at Christmas.

[309] Okay.

[310] Yeah, shh.

[311] Someone real bossy down in the middle.

[312] Well, okay.

[313] So in looking up these stories, and Stephen did send me, of course, like 20 insane choices where I was like, every single thing I looked at and then out of the blue my sister emailed me no message, no even message in the subject line of the email it was just this link and then I clicked it open and it was this article and it was an article from Mysterious Universe Yes, that's a good one yeah so I was like this is the shit and it turned out it is so most of the information I'm about to read you is from this article from Mysterious Universe that's written by Brett Swanser.

[314] And it is about the curse of Lake Lanier.

[315] Is it a, is the curse McMansions?

[316] Yes.

[317] It's the curse of living in a gorgeous, gorgeous lakeside community.

[318] Oh, is it the golf court?

[319] Is the golf course haunted?

[320] Yeah.

[321] Is that what it is?

[322] It's when you are cursed, the curse of the curse.

[323] of Lake Lanier, you have to golf for 90 years straight.

[324] Fuck, man. He's just golf and golf.

[325] Golf and golf.

[326] It's so crazy.

[327] I'm into it.

[328] So Stephen's like, I spent fucking three hours finding murders for you.

[329] And you didn't use what if you!

[330] That's right.

[331] And my sister cuts the line and is like, do this.

[332] I'm like, okay.

[333] Because she's my older sister and I'm forced to do everything she says.

[334] All right.

[335] That's right.

[336] So, I don't have to tell you guys, but I do have to tell you guys.

[337] tell the girl from California.

[338] Please.

[339] Just 45 minutes north.

[340] I forgot a tissue.

[341] Oh, do you, does anyone have a tissue for Georgia?

[342] Hopefully in the front row.

[343] Oh, my God, you're an angel baby.

[344] I forgot mine.

[345] Oh, I'll take both.

[346] I'll take both.

[347] Thank you guys so much.

[348] I just have to say that literally seven hands went up in the air.

[349] Listen, I'm working on it.

[350] Okay.

[351] And I was, it's just, it's a hard show.

[352] Hey, you're not alone.

[353] I know, thank you.

[354] Oh, God.

[355] Okay.

[356] I guess I have to start again.

[357] Sorry.

[358] 45 minutes, Nora.

[359] Okay.

[360] I'm here with you.

[361] Of Atlanta.

[362] Okay.

[363] Is the jewel of North Georgia?

[364] Is that true?

[365] I don't, that's, it's said that on a website.

[366] Everyone not from there is like, fuck, no. If you believe that Core's life.

[367] cans are jewels, then yes.

[368] Right?

[369] Girl, I know Lake Life.

[370] I know that Lake Life.

[371] Oh, yeah.

[372] You got to be filled to the brim with that Coors Light.

[373] Get out on your pontoon boat.

[374] Do your thing.

[375] It's 38 ,000 acres of water for boating, for swimming.

[376] Someone wrote drinking water.

[377] what makes it sound like you go there to just be like oh shit thank god we're here and then you go home yeah it's drinking water ew no no no you don't scoop it out right behind the guy that just fucking like swam through with zinc on his nose okay there's also hydroelectric power coming out of there there's a big dam got it it's an exciting place I don't know that much about it I'm really trying to sell it as if I'm An expert.

[378] Okay.

[379] And I am in the way that you are when you cut and paste things.

[380] Like, for instance, it has 8 million visitors annually.

[381] Wow.

[382] Yes.

[383] And it's also known to be the deadliest lake in Georgia.

[384] No way.

[385] Yes, way.

[386] Ooh, don't go there.

[387] Like, it's a really easy solution.

[388] Now, I read, so of course there's this amazing, mysterious universe article and then there was lots every time that i googled it there's one article that i found uh so fucking funny i believe it may have been in the atlanta journal constitution but someone went up there to be like you know the curse of lake lanare and there's a woman who oh i thought you said something to me it was my own voice oh shit it's kicking in it's the last show Tonight's the last show.

[389] Every time we do a show, we put acid in one of the bottled waters.

[390] Can you guys hear me talking?

[391] So the interview, the reporter talks to a lady who has a houseboat on the lake, and they're talking about everything, all of it, and she says, just because you buy a boat don't mean you get common sense with it.

[392] fucking truer words truer words so part of the reason it's the deadliest lake in Georgia is because it has it's the one that's most visited and because they make these speedboats now so there's fucking people filled with Keystone life that are jamming out and then there's like of course you know people trying to swim and families and all this stuff so it's like it's a very bad combination.

[393] There was also in the comment section of something they were like, they were talking about, yeah, it's like if you drank a six -pack and then just went driving.

[394] It's that, that's why the numbers are so high comparatively to other lakes, but also, it's not just that.

[395] Uh -oh.

[396] For this lake was not made by God.

[397] No?

[398] No. But by the will of man. Oh.

[399] And so it is an unnatural lake in every way.

[400] God is pissed.

[401] He's like, I fucking told you how many lakes she could have.

[402] I make the fucking legs.

[403] You don't get to just choose.

[404] I make the legs.

[405] Yes.

[406] You don't make the fucking legs.

[407] Yes.

[408] Well, Georgia says, yes, we do.

[409] Because those little, what looked like little islands are actually the peaks of the foothills that used to be in that area.

[410] Oh my gosh.

[411] That they flooded to make this lake.

[412] With our houses down there?

[413] Yeah, and they still are.

[414] That is my favorite thing in the fucking world.

[415] Right?

[416] Yes.

[417] There are ghost underwater ghost towns at the bottom of Lake Lanier.

[418] Right?

[419] Underwater houses.

[420] So your sinkholes are my underwater ghost town.

[421] Is that true?

[422] Like, I just want to start crying right now.

[423] And then swim through my tears to an underwater.

[424] our ghost town.

[425] Okay, then maybe we should, can we go to the next slide just so Georgia can see.

[426] Oh, God.

[427] That's what I want it.

[428] I don't think this is from Lake Lanier.

[429] I just love it.

[430] Maybe we're into Spanish style?

[431] It was, uh, there's a Mayan temple down there.

[432] Wow, Georgia.

[433] I didn't know you guys were so progressive back then.

[434] But I mean, this is the family you get, right?

[435] Definitely.

[436] had it in there as I had it on my document for so long and I was like God I have to figure out what that fucking building is and I would look it up and I would like click on the picture to like bring you to the website and then it'd be like sunken things from around the world I'm like no I think it might be in Mexico I'm not sure so but anyhow but picture that is a big red barn okay right it's more like that it was all farms yeah yeah It was, they had to move 250 families, they had to move 15 businesses, and they were all evacuated, but they left everything there.

[437] So they didn't evacuate it, and then like, now let's tear all these things down.

[438] So they say, if you were able to walk along the lake bottom and not kick up any silt, I don't think it's clear, but you would basically be walking through ghost town.

[439] Dream, my dream.

[440] a dream of life they didn't move the houses they didn't move any of the buildings it's all intact they didn't move the 20 cemeteries that are down they didn't move the cemeteries they claim to have moved the bodies oh but do we have paltureguise there hasn't been an underwater ghost town around here for 25 25 years is not that long ago.

[441] Yeah, I just realized that I've been saying 25 years and it's a short amount of time for the haunted minor to be referring to something.

[442] I've got to kill that character off.

[443] No, please.

[444] Never.

[445] Okay, so here's why people, here's why there's a lot of legend and a lot of storytelling around this lake.

[446] Because there are people who have almost drowned in the lake who talk about having felt unseen hands pulling them down.

[447] Under the water.

[448] Uh -huh.

[449] Locals talk of boats capsizing for no reason.

[450] Rogue waves kicking up out of nowhere.

[451] Don't put your finger in my water.

[452] I'm trying to give you the sensation of, here's you on a boat.

[453] I'm the rogue wave.

[454] No!

[455] Can I just tell you I've never seen Karen wash her hands before?

[456] I'm a walker.

[457] I'm not a washer.

[458] Okay, rogue waves.

[459] Rogue waves, kicking up out of nowhere.

[460] Yeah.

[461] Strong swimmers drowning who were close to shore in calm conditions.

[462] Don't like it.

[463] They don't talk about sobriety.

[464] Not to be that way about it.

[465] Yeah.

[466] There's an element.

[467] Often there are a couple elements left out of ghostly stories for fun.

[468] There was actually a really good, somebody, there's an anecdote in one of these articles about a guy, saying that he was sitting on the lake fishing and he was watching a duck that was just kind of floating by him swimming and all of a sudden the duck went underwater.

[469] Oh, no. He didn't stick his head underwater the way ducks stood like, oh, there's the thing I'm going to go dive under.

[470] He just got pulled underwater and never came back up.

[471] Oh, duck haunting.

[472] That's the most haunted duck in the state of Georgia.

[473] Okay.

[474] So near the Buford Dam, the water...

[475] Yeah, let's give the Buford Dam.

[476] It's the reason you have electricity, I'm assuming.

[477] I read one, two articles.

[478] The Buford Dam, the water is over 200 feet deep.

[479] The person, I think it was, I'll tell you, it was Dan Brown who was writing for the Gwinnett Citizen.

[480] He made...

[481] Gwinnett?

[482] Gwinnett.

[483] What if there was like seven more options of what that in pronunciation could be?

[484] You got it on the first guess.

[485] Guian it?

[486] No, I got on a second guess.

[487] Well.

[488] So he said to make, just to make that clear, it's, uh, that's as deep as the Statue of Liberty is tall.

[489] Whoa.

[490] Right?

[491] Fuck.

[492] I didn't realize 200 was that many.

[493] What?

[494] Does it ever scare you the idea of like swimming in a really deep place?

[495] Yes.

[496] some reason, even though it's like, you know what I mean?

[497] Well, and growing up, we went to a place called Blue Lake in California and up in Lake County where I learned all my lake lessons.

[498] And comparatively, a tiny lake, it was really small and we used to, from the cabin that we used to rent, we would swim down to a place called the Narrows, which was the bar.

[499] The only thing there was a bar at the end of the lake.

[500] But that was like a crazy swimmer, like someone would grow in a boat next to you and you just see how long you could swim, basically.

[501] That sounds chill.

[502] But, right?

[503] You can only play Clue so many times before you're like, okay, let's swim the entire leg.

[504] But a couple times while I was swimming, doing that, you'd just get this weird feeling, right?

[505] Okay, so now cut to, that's like when I was a teenager.

[506] Now cut to when I first moved to L .A., I was reading a book called Mysterious California.

[507] Self -published.

[508] And so they list all the places that are like weird or haunted in California.

[509] And as I'm reading, flip to, it says Blue Lake California.

[510] I'm like, what the fuck?

[511] Okay, they, it has a Loch Ness monster in it.

[512] What?

[513] That the entire town was, they were down where the Narrows bar is, the entire town, which was like 75 people, were there for 4th of July.

[514] And they had put fireworks out onto like a little, like, a float and had it a little bit offshore.

[515] And as they were there watching the fireworks go off.

[516] A large sea serpent brought its head up and looked at everyone on the shore and swam away.

[517] He fucking went like this.

[518] Double fucking...

[519] Get out of my lakes.

[520] Everyone off.

[521] They were like, keep it down.

[522] My serpent kids are sleeping.

[523] But they said there's parts of Blue Lake that can't be measured and that that's where I got my theory of underground lakes connecting and holding Brontosauri.

[524] you're saying that as if it's like you know this thing that's insane that I believe I wrote my thesis a couple years ago about how all lakes are connected underground and hold dinosaurs so what if it's not true I also would like to remind you this there might be a couple people in this audience right now who are going insane because there was a movie in 1999 starring Annette Benning and Robert Downey Jr. called In Dreams do you remember it.

[525] And it was about Annette Benning was psychic and she was psychically connecting to a serial killer and also having visions of a sunken underground town and it was because the things were happening sunk in underground town.

[526] Got it.

[527] I saw it in 1999.

[528] I was on a lot of drugs.

[529] But I highly recommended it so bad.

[530] And I think also Robert Downey Jr. was also on drugs at the time.

[531] Right.

[532] Check it out.

[533] Sorry, I should have taken that part off of this page.

[534] It's unnecessary.

[535] A thing that is down there for real, though, can we skip to the next one, is the looper speedway?

[536] So there's an entire racetrack that was very popular here in the, you know, 40s, I guess.

[537] Sure.

[538] And it's completely submerged, but there was a really...

[539] bad drought in 2007, I think.

[540] And the water came down and exposed the fucking looper speedway.

[541] Wow.

[542] Isn't that crazy?

[543] And you know all your favorites used to race on the looper speedway.

[544] Eddie Samples and Chester Barron out of Cornelia.

[545] That one is my favorite.

[546] Gober Sosabee.

[547] Oh, gober.

[548] Or Goober.

[549] There's not two O's.

[550] Goober's better, but it's spelled gober.

[551] Well, Sasa V, no matter what.

[552] Right.

[553] That's golden.

[554] And there's also a racer named, a woman named Sarah Christian, who actually used to win at that race track.

[555] Right?

[556] That's fun.

[557] That's a fun, feminist moment.

[558] There also are enormous catfish in this lake.

[559] Okay.

[560] Now, most lakes have stories of like, we had the biggest catfish.

[561] Everyone's freaking out.

[562] Here's the story for Lake Lanier.

[563] There's a chicken truck, a truck that's delivering live chickens.

[564] It goes off the road and into the lake.

[565] Oh, no. And...

[566] You're free!

[567] Right.

[568] When the divers go down to see if there's, I don't know, any survivors or check out the wreckage or whatever, they see...

[569] The story goes that they see catfish the size of 12 -year -old boys in a feeding friend.

[570] swallowing chickens hole.

[571] What the fuck?

[572] Those poor chickens are like, we're ducks now, yay!

[573] And then it's like Catfish.

[574] Your feed, baby.

[575] Shit, man. I love that.

[576] There was also a kind of similar story of divers that had to go down and inspect the dam.

[577] And when they got down there, they saw catfish the size of Volkswagen's is what they said.

[578] What?

[579] And both of those stories ended in the diver who was telling a story going, and I said I would never go into that lake again, or I'm like, this is the same story with different nouns, but still.

[580] Yeah.

[581] Page nine.

[582] Okay.

[583] So, one of the big legends and ghost stories about Lake Lanier is the Lady of the Lake.

[584] So in, and this is, this is, I'm just reading you from a mysterious universe because he did it, he did it right.

[585] So in April of 1958, a young woman who worked at Riverside Military Academy, her name was Delia Parker Young.

[586] And she and her friend, Susie Roberts, are going to go out on the town in Susie's 1954 Ford, and they never come back.

[587] So when they investigate it, they discover that they, Deely and Susie had visited a gas station that night and left without paying.

[588] Ladies.

[589] I mean, it's just a thing girls love to do.

[590] The only clue about where they were was a set of skid marks across the road that seemed to suggest that the car had skidded off linear bridge and into the lake below, but the divers who were brought into search for them couldn't find the car because it's bad visibility, water's murky, and there's tons and tons of sheared -off trees that are on the bottom of the lake.

[591] And the catfish.

[592] and the catfish, who stand guard over anything that falls into the lake.

[593] Got it.

[594] And they hide it with their arm like this.

[595] I haven't seen any.

[596] Probably, maybe over there.

[597] Chicken bones.

[598] So for 18 months, they couldn't find the women or the car in the lake.

[599] And then a fisherman named C .A. Simpson.

[600] he's just fishing one day and the body just rises to the top of the water that's not cool it is not cool so it was at the body of a young woman and she was missing two toes from the left foot and both hands it was never ascertained why the body was missing hands or toes or what the cause of death was and there was no way to identify her so she was buried in an unmarked grave in the Altavista Cemetery and it was not the fucking catfish.

[601] Shut up.

[602] It probably was the catfish.

[603] She's on your side, but she'll never let you know.

[604] Damn it.

[605] Certainly don't want you telling me about my own fucking story that's somebody else's.

[606] Okay.

[607] The body of Susie Roberts and her car are missing despite repeated searches until November of 1990.

[608] What?

[609] Yes.

[610] And they're expanding linear bridge, and the construction crews were dredging the bottom of the lake so they could put in the pillars for the bridge, and they uncover a rusted out Hulk of a 1954 Ford inside or the remains of a human body.

[611] These are my other, oh man, like not favorite, you know what I mean?

[612] Right.

[613] We use that word very loosely on this podcast.

[614] Oh, I love those stories so much.

[615] They break my heart.

[616] Why, because it was gone for years and years?

[617] So long.

[618] Yeah.

[619] Okay, go on.

[620] So the body was decomposed to the point of being unidentifiable, but there were belongings, a purse, rings, and a watch, so it was conclusively proven to be Susie Roberts.

[621] So in the light of this discovery, they realized the other body must have been Delia Parker Young, and they end up burying them side by side and changing her headstone, so it's not unidentified.

[622] So these deaths are what spawned the biggest legend of Lake Lanier, the Lady of the Lake.

[623] So people say that they have seen a ghostly young woman dressed in a blue dress missing her hands, walking up and down the length of Lanier Bridge.

[624] Can you imagine?

[625] You're just driving along?

[626] Yeah.

[627] Playing Tom Petty's American Girl.

[628] Yes.

[629] Right?

[630] That's how this scene always starts.

[631] What's that?

[632] Why is she?

[633] You shouldn't walk it now.

[634] Holy fucking.

[635] She's see -through.

[636] She's see -through.

[637] The ghost wears a blue dress.

[638] Delia Parker Young was wearing a blue dress the night that she disappeared.

[639] Oh, no. And the wandering lady has no hands.

[640] This one's creepier and worse, because it's real.

[641] That's over.

[642] Put it out of your mind.

[643] Now we're doing this.

[644] Please.

[645] Please keep up, balcony.

[646] They're here.

[647] It's fine.

[648] Okay.

[649] Okay.

[650] So this is the story of the death of Kelly Nash.

[651] So on January 5th, 2015, this just happened, 25 -year -old Buford man, Kelly Nash, went missing from his home.

[652] He had woken up in the middle of the night, like at 4 in the morning, he said to his girlfriend, I feel really sick, I think I have to go to the doctor, then they both went back to sleep.

[653] And when his girlfriend woke up at 7 .30 in the morning, Kelly wasn't there, and he hadn't taken his wallet, his ID, or his keys.

[654] So when When he hadn't come back by that night, his girlfriend called the police, and they discovered that a 9mm pistol was missing from the house, but nothing else was out of place and nothing else was missing.

[655] And there was a massive search launched, and friends, family, the police, they had cadaver dogs, they searched everywhere.

[656] There was a $50 ,000 reward for him.

[657] There was no trace of his whereabouts anywhere.

[658] And then a month later, his decomposed body was found by a fisherman.

[659] Please don't let it be C .A. Simpson.

[660] She is.

[661] Damn it.

[662] It's like he had finally gone back out on the lake.

[663] Yeah.

[664] After 40 years of like, I can't.

[665] It's...

[666] Okay, this is what's super creepy, though.

[667] Kelly Nash was found wearing his pajama pants and the T -shirt that he wore to bed that night.

[668] And he had a single gunshot wound in his head, but there was no other trauma on the body.

[669] no sign of any kind of fight or anything at all and the crime was never solved and no one could figure out why he would get up in the middle of the night how he ended up there whether it was suicide or if it was foul play scary yeah and then this is the last one and it is another unsolved case and it's Hannah True Love's murderer so that's the way to heckle is to apologize immediately afterwards.

[670] She yelled, go bitch!

[671] Sorry.

[672] We'll talk about it later.

[673] In August of 2012, a man walking through the woods near Lanier Lake Club Apartments found the body of 16 -year -old Hannah Trulog who stabbed to death only hundreds of yards from her home.

[674] Her mother reported her missing that night before when she didn't come back from her friend's house.

[675] And the police interviewed everybody, her friends, everybody that lived in the apartment complex.

[676] And no one had seen anything.

[677] The only lead that they got was there was a man in a silver four -door car that had been seen around the apartment complex around the time that Hannah disappeared.

[678] And in the days before her death, she had been tweeting things.

[679] She tweeted that she thought she had a stalker.

[680] She tweeted that she had to get out of this apartment complex.

[681] And then she tweeted so scared.

[682] The police say that when they looked into those tweets, asked her friends and family about them, They say that it turned out to just be teenage drama stuff.

[683] Uh -uh.

[684] Uh, I mean, not that I, the policemen in this article that I read, there was a couple who's so dedicated, so dedicated to finding out who killed her, he keeps a PlayStation on his desk because that was the way that she, uh, communicated.

[685] And when I read that, the first, of course, reaction is like, no, it is not fucking drama.

[686] and if somebody tweets that they think they have a stalker, there's a reason for that.

[687] But also, you know, you have to give people the benefit of the doubt if they're professionals and they look into something, hopefully.

[688] But her father said that she made no mention of being under duress and didn't seem any different in the days before her death.

[689] But she lived with her mother at that apartment complex.

[690] So maybe he didn't know her day to day as well.

[691] So the case is still open.

[692] The fifth anniversary of her murder, the police, which was last year last summer in August the police once again renewed the search, told everybody because they were saying enough time has passed now where people who may have been covering for someone at the time or knew something that they thought they couldn't say, you could have had of falling out of that person, there's all these things like if you know anything at all there's reward money and they want any information that they can so they're still looking for it and they, especially want to know if anyone knows anything about the man in the silver Ford or a car.

[693] Oh my God, scary.

[694] And that is the curse and the scariness of Lake Lanier.

[695] Oh my God.

[696] Yeah.

[697] We're never going there.

[698] Sorry.

[699] I booked a trip for us.

[700] We're staying at an Airbnb.

[701] It's underwater.

[702] It's quaint as fuck.

[703] Wow, that's terrifying.

[704] I know.

[705] It's crazy.

[706] Places are haunted and I hate it.

[707] Okay.

[708] Also, wear a life jacket when you go boating.

[709] I know it's nerdy, but Jesus Christ.

[710] Yeah.

[711] I read so many terrible, like, deaths and children.

[712] And, you know, it's like drunk people and families.

[713] Fucking, everybody just converging in the worst way.

[714] No, stay home, everyone.

[715] Again, I have to tell people to stop doing outdoor activities.

[716] Indoor Indoor It's the best It's the safest Place you can be Oh my God tidal wave Wouldn't that be fun Okay And I Okay so my story Is old -timey Okay And It takes place In a place where I know there was a Murderino meetup today A big one Make in Georgia Oh We saw the photos of the cupcakes, they looked fucking delicious.

[717] Your baseball shirts, they hope you brought us one.

[718] Great job, everybody.

[719] There you go.

[720] Only like five of them came, the rest are just so drunk.

[721] You go for me and yell it really loud.

[722] Did you see there was a car full of murderinas on their way here and they got in a hit -and -run car accident?

[723] What?

[724] Are they here?

[725] They're fine, they're fine, they're fine.

[726] They're just like, they're fine, they're fine.

[727] So you just hit that car and fucking drove away?

[728] That's awful.

[729] Everyone was, I was laughing about it, not realizing that people were, like, because I know they're fine, and everyone's like, oh my God, no, they're fine.

[730] I think, there they are.

[731] No, they're here.

[732] Yeah, yeah, they're here.

[733] They weren't sure if they could make it.

[734] They all have neck braces on.

[735] Yay!

[736] True crime is the best.

[737] All right, Macon, Georgia.

[738] It's about 85.

[739] Okay, well, let me tell you, this is the story.

[740] of Anget Lyle's murderous.

[741] A murderous.

[742] Great.

[743] Okay, so Megan Georgia is about 85 miles south of Atlanta.

[744] Oh, other direction.

[745] Mm -hmm.

[746] Is it the jewel of the south?

[747] It's the heart of Georgia.

[748] Oh.

[749] Girl.

[750] You got the jewels.

[751] I got the heart.

[752] Yeah.

[753] And together, there's a heart in jewels.

[754] I don't know.

[755] I'm never going to be able.

[756] What's her name?

[757] The one that makes, that shitty necklace every year at Christmas.

[758] Jacqueline, whatever.

[759] This is my heart.

[760] Just one of you, just one.

[761] Just one.

[762] Just one person say it.

[763] Jane Seymour.

[764] Jane Seymour.

[765] Somebody's from the theater over here.

[766] Jane Seymour.

[767] So, all right.

[768] Anjet Donovan.

[769] This table is something else.

[770] They got this off a school bus.

[771] We just need it for one night.

[772] Steven, fix the fucking table down there.

[773] Tighten the shit down, Stephen.

[774] Can you, please?

[775] So in 1925, she's born, reasonably well off in Macon.

[776] I think if I were from Georgia, I would say it better.

[777] I think you're supposed to be more like chill Macon.

[778] You know what I mean?

[779] I watched an episode of City Confidential about it, and you know, she just sounds drunk as fuck.

[780] That guy is Paul Winfield.

[781] He's so drunk.

[782] He's so.

[783] in the town of making good.

[784] Will you the steamy nuts become a quiet deal?

[785] You're like, sir, get a cup of coffee before you record this.

[786] Legendary actor.

[787] Oh, little Richard is from Macon George.

[788] Oh, hell yeah.

[789] Otis writing.

[790] A lot of incredible musicians are from there.

[791] Anyways, 1925, reasonably well off.

[792] She's well educated, well -liked, but she has a reputation as getting what she wants through charm manipulation.

[793] We're like, what is the problem?

[794] Why is this a problem?

[795] You know what I mean?

[796] Yeah, yeah.

[797] Get it, girl.

[798] Get it.

[799] But she's terrible.

[800] Okay.

[801] As you'll soon find out.

[802] In 1947, she marries a man named Ben Lyles.

[803] He had fought in the Army during World War II, and his family owns a family restaurant called Lyles, and so she goes to work at the family restaurant, Anjet.

[804] She turns out to have a real talent in the business.

[805] The clientele love her because she's super social and fun.

[806] Everyone adores her.

[807] They have two daughters, Marsha born in 1948, Carla born in 1951.

[808] So it turns out, so professional life going awesome.

[809] She fucking loves working at this diner.

[810] Oh, we have a photo of her.

[811] Can we see the first photo of Annette?

[812] Nope.

[813] That's your, is that your lady?

[814] She also died in the lake.

[815] We didn't have time.

[816] Sorry.

[817] Oh, I forget.

[818] We get stuck into the border.

[819] This next one is of Hannah, true love, so it's going to be sad.

[820] Okay, we're going to go back for a minute.

[821] That's Hannah.

[822] Oh, cutie.

[823] Okay, then the next one is of a murderous woman.

[824] There she is.

[825] Hey, good eyebrows.

[826] Good eyebrows for the 90s.

[827] Okay, look at that fucking hair.

[828] That's a strong lip.

[829] That's a strong lip.

[830] What if, okay.

[831] Wait, she's bad?

[832] Yeah, we don't like her.

[833] Okay, okay, okay.

[834] All right.

[835] But I do, though.

[836] So, home life's not going great.

[837] Ben had a hard time in the war.

[838] He had a throat, he had picked up a throat infection that turned into rheumatic fever, as it did back then.

[839] It was just like, oh, you have a little thing?

[840] You're fucked.

[841] Dying.

[842] Dying.

[843] Dying.

[844] So it left him unable to work.

[845] He was in a lot of pain.

[846] He had a veteran's pension, but he, you know, he was.

[847] He also was really irritable and drank a lot, and he gambled.

[848] So he got so many debts that he decided to sell the family restaurant in 1951 out of fucking the blue, like didn't tell anyone, including NJet.

[849] Sold it for $2 ,500.

[850] $2 ,500.

[851] Which was like not a lot, even then.

[852] And she was like, fuck this shit.

[853] I'm still on her side.

[854] So she's fucking pissed off.

[855] They argue all the time.

[856] And so in December of 1951, Ben gets super fucking ill. The doctors don't know what's wrong with him.

[857] They can't figure it out.

[858] It wasn't the rheumatic fever, and they weren't sure what was wrong with him.

[859] He had nosebleeds and convulsions.

[860] He had to be hospitalized.

[861] He goes into a coma.

[862] The doctors think it's encephalitis, but it's too late for any treatment.

[863] He dies on January, 19, or January 25th.

[864] 1951.

[865] He's out of the pitch.

[866] That's how, that was...

[867] Have you ever said that before?

[868] Never.

[869] Never, ever in my life.

[870] Same time.

[871] Don't end the word picture.

[872] Oh my God, he's out of the pitch.

[873] Yeah.

[874] So, with Ben Zeph, Anjet, she's forced to move out of her house that they lived in back in her home with her parents, with her two daughters.

[875] She gets a job working at a new restaurant.

[876] She's fucking works her ass off for years and saves every penny.

[877] So finally in April, 195, she has enough money to buy back La Restaurant.

[878] Wow.

[879] It's not French.

[880] Yes.

[881] I don't know why I said that either.

[882] It's Lyle's Diner.

[883] Yeah.

[884] But she's like, fuck the shit.

[885] I'm changing the name to Ann Jets.

[886] That's right.

[887] So far, we like her.

[888] Right?

[889] So she, but she, okay, so you know how he sold it for $2 ,500?

[890] She bought it $12 ,000.

[891] So she changes the name to Ann Jets, and it quickly becomes one of the most popular lunch spots in Macon.

[892] The food is typical Southern Fair, but people love her friendliness and outgoing personality.

[893] And let's see here, da -da -da -da -da.

[894] Okay, so she would, it was said that she was an headstrong woman who would stretch the boundaries of acceptable behavior in the small Southern town.

[895] Yes.

[896] and that meant she would like pull her skirt up slightly.

[897] Right, right.

[898] Well, she drove flashy cars, dressed in the newest styles.

[899] And she was flirtatious.

[900] So, you know.

[901] Kill her.

[902] And was rumored to be hooking up with dudes in the community, but there's no evidence of that.

[903] So soon her restaurant's fucking jumping.

[904] She hires her mother -in -law, Ben's mom, to Julia, to work in the restaurant with her.

[905] And there's an airport nearby, and so it becomes really, the restaurant becomes popular with pilots, and she meets one of them named Joe Gabbert.

[906] Everyone calls them Buddy.

[907] They hit it off, they start dating, and in June of 1955, they go off on a holiday, and then they come back, and they're like, guess what, we got married?

[908] So she's got another husband.

[909] Good for her.

[910] Yes.

[911] She loves marriage up there.

[912] Sweet.

[913] Her new marriage seems super happy.

[914] And, da -da -da -da -da, okay.

[915] Lots of gossip.

[916] And, okay.

[917] Then everyone's also like, she's kind of into some weird, magic -y, like voodoo -y things, maybe.

[918] I love her.

[919] When is the other shoe going to drop?

[920] Oh, wait, I forgot to get a story that had murder in it.

[921] You're just reading me the script of practical magic.

[922] You're just like, oh.

[923] That's weird.

[924] Steven, what the fuck?

[925] She looks exactly like Sandra Bullock.

[926] Okay, so she's, uh, so so she would make her friends and relatives come with her to fortune tellers at fairs and would often, her staff said that she would be in the back of the restaurant lighting colored candles and whispering to them when she thought no one was around.

[927] Can you imagine walking in the candle?

[928] Isn't that what a lot of people do in church, though?

[929] Like, what's the fucking problem?

[930] Sorry.

[931] Just make those candles white, and that's Catholic Church for you.

[932] Oh, we have a photo of Anjets.

[933] Of a Catholic church.

[934] Restaurant.

[935] There's another photo of Anjet's restaurant.

[936] We can just hang out.

[937] Yeah, we'll see it.

[938] We'll see them.

[939] They're just accessing the file.

[940] here we go here we are look at it cute cute is in it cute I do love hanging out in diners I mean like it would be super fun to own a diner yeah I do too in October 1955 buddy her husband her new husband goes in the hospital for a minor operation on his wrist and when he returns home he develops a rash and fever hmm fever gets worse the rash spreads all over his body he's back in the hospital doctors again don't know what the fuck is wrong with him We all know what the fuck is wrong with him, right?

[941] It's whisper candles.

[942] He's dying of whisper candles.

[943] He fucking dies on December 2nd, leaving Anjet a widow again.

[944] Second husband down.

[945] Doctors wanted to do an autopsy, but Anjet refuses to grant permission, saying that Buddy wouldn't have wanted one, which, like, fair enough, I wouldn't either.

[946] She's like, it's against my whispering religion.

[947] Within a few months, she has...

[948] had legally changed her name back to Liles and started dating another pilot and had collected buddies pretty hefty life insurance policy that paid out, when it paid out, she bought a house for herself and her daughters and a fancy new car.

[949] And of course, everyone in Macon was like, oh, something's up with this crazy chick.

[950] They all, you know, whispered.

[951] Tons of whispering in Macon.

[952] But apparently she didn't care, which is like good for her.

[953] Well, sociopaths don't care that much.

[954] Right.

[955] That's right.

[956] So then, so Julia Lyles, the mother -in -law moves into the house as well to take care of the daughters while Ann Jett's at work.

[957] But the two women didn't really like each other that much, you know.

[958] Uh -oh.

[959] Mm -hmm.

[960] Oh, my God, in 1957, Julia becomes ill. Let's see.

[961] Okay.

[962] But then she found vomiting blood.

[963] Uh -huh.

[964] And it had to be hospitalized.

[965] Anjeth was a frequent visitor.

[966] everyone, like, praises her because she just, like, takes, is with her at the hospital all the time, brings her food from the restaurant, all this stuff.

[967] What?

[968] Just, oh, just vats of rat poison with melted cheese on top?

[969] Then, uh, Julia dies on September 29th, 1957.

[970] Fucking, that's three people.

[971] That's three.

[972] Uh -huh.

[973] Shortly after Julia's death, Annette, uh, is like, oh, by the way, here's Julia's will that she had always refused to make and I convinced her to do one.

[974] Here it is.

[975] And I keep it in my low garter and pull it all the way out.

[976] You know.

[977] So it left a third of her estate to her daughter, Julia's daughter, other son.

[978] What?

[979] And then a third to Angette and the reigning third to the granddaughters.

[980] So that's like two -thirds to to Anjet.

[981] Let's add that math up right now.

[982] It fits.

[983] And another third.

[984] To me. So Friends have started, okay, here's the way it gets a bummer and you'll hate her.

[985] Okay.

[986] So Friends start noticing that Anjet is being aggressive towards her nine -year -old daughter, Marcia.

[987] Uh -oh.

[988] See, I was trying to, I was wondering because I was like, are there these Black Widow women who are like weird poisoners who can raised children normally.

[989] Nope, but then kill adults.

[990] It didn't seem to track, but that's what I was hoping for in my mind.

[991] Yeah, don't.

[992] Sorry to let you down.

[993] I'm going to let go of that idea.

[994] She called her daughter Marcia a Lyle's looking son of a bitch.

[995] Her own fucking daughter!

[996] In front of people.

[997] Lyle's looking like you look like your father?

[998] Yeah.

[999] I know.

[1000] I know.

[1001] Fuck.

[1002] So in March 1958, Marsha becomes sick with a cough and complains of a headache.

[1003] And Jett gives her the traditional country remedy for a fussy child, which sounds like...

[1004] Poison.

[1005] A spoonful of sugar with whiskey poured over it, which is like, sign me up.

[1006] Everyone here is like, my mom wasn't a bad person.

[1007] This is the...

[1008] I wish my mom had given me that.

[1009] Do I?

[1010] No. But it's still, but it makes Marsha vomit, and a few days later, she's hospitalized.

[1011] Anjet brought her fruit drinks and tea, but they only seem to make her worse.

[1012] And it was around now that people are getting very suspicious of Anjet Liles.

[1013] Four N. Uh -huh.

[1014] After three, after a couple weeks, Anjit, while her daughter is in the hospital, begins making funeral arrangements for her.

[1015] While she's still alive.

[1016] Uh -huh.

[1017] Yeah, somebody should have flagged that one.

[1018] She's horrible.

[1019] And she, like, takes flowers from the room and is like, oh, we'll use these for the funeral.

[1020] No, not out loud.

[1021] Yeah.

[1022] No. Okay.

[1023] Is there, like, a gate check at a funeral home where they're like, so they'll have the body shipped over tomorrow?

[1024] No, no, no. Not dead yet, but still, I like the silver casket.

[1025] Like, did they know to call the police on that, or did they?

[1026] No. Fuck.

[1027] And also, she didn't know to not say it?

[1028] I don't know.

[1029] She'd gotten away with it three other times.

[1030] It's really horrible.

[1031] It's crazy.

[1032] Nine -year -old Marcia dies on the 5th of April.

[1033] Fuck.

[1034] I know.

[1035] She's autopsy, though, and the coroner couldn't find any obvious signs for her kidneys failing, but a few days later, he received an anonymous letter, which later turns out to be from someone who worked at the restaurant and she had been speaking to Anjets so she said this person who worked at the restaurant had spoke to Anjet's maid and maid was like gosh we keep running out of ant poison No, fuck fuck just over coffee what are you running out of?

[1036] Saying that it was to deal with the infestation at the restaurant but the employee's like there's no fucking rat infestation yeah you get shut down for that yeah well not then probably right that was back when it was supported it's like every restaurant has a couple of rats come on it's good for you it's protein a lot of that kind of stuff the coroner sends a bottle of poison along with samples of marshes hair and kidneys to the state lab for investigation and gives Ann Jett a fucking jingle on the phone or is it like this back then no no no no no I think we're in the 50s aren't we we're doing this rotary Yeah, it's this.

[1037] It could be on the wall like this.

[1038] Yeah, yeah.

[1039] And it's a big, like...

[1040] And then you have it like that, and you're mixing something like this.

[1041] It's rat poison.

[1042] It's the long cord, so you can go all the way into the back bedroom if you need to.

[1043] That's true.

[1044] In my day, okay.

[1045] Doot, do, do, do.

[1046] Okay, the corner tells Anjet that he's worried that Marcia might have accidentally drunk poison.

[1047] And Anjette comes to see him.

[1048] I'm sure she goes, oh, runs over, with a bottle of ant poison and her younger daughter, Carla, there.

[1049] Carla tells the doctor a story about Marcia and her playing the doctor.

[1050] And then she says that she had given her sister, fed her rat poisoning.

[1051] So she made her fucking daughter tell this story about how she fed it to her.

[1052] It was her fault.

[1053] Yeah.

[1054] So, then, okay, at this point, Julia, Buddy, and Ben all are exempted.

[1055] are like, uh -uh.

[1056] And all three are autopsied and show signs of arsenic as does Marsh's autopsy a month after Marcia's death Anjet, who's 32 now, is arrested and arraigned on four counts of murder.

[1057] So let's take a look at her.

[1058] I think we have one at the courthouse.

[1059] At age 32.

[1060] She's 32.

[1061] Whoa.

[1062] How you like those eyebrows?

[1063] Girl.

[1064] That's a hard 32, right?

[1065] Damn.

[1066] Look.

[1067] Again, with the hair.

[1068] I have a, and I know this is wrong to say, but I'm feeling a renewed confidence.

[1069] I'm not kidding.

[1070] I might wear that dress tomorrow night.

[1071] I swear to God.

[1072] Is that what happens when you handle arsenic too much?

[1073] When you have a murderous heart?

[1074] Girl.

[1075] In the heart of Georgia?

[1076] Oh man, the names of like the city confidential and like, like, the articles that like they like you know murder is served that all has to do with the restaurant or whatever you know what I mean like it's just all ridiculous take out murder I don't know it's really ridiculous it's lovely take out murder you know what I mean can I place an order for murder I don't know yes yes I'll have a side of murder would you like some murder on there yeah sprinkle a little whatever you get it could I have my murder on this side.

[1077] Hold the murder.

[1078] We could do this for hours.

[1079] And it would be equally bad the whole time.

[1080] Eventually we'd get to a good one, probably.

[1081] I think so.

[1082] After like 15 more.

[1083] So she's arrested for all...

[1084] Murder on the grill.

[1085] No. You're only clapping because I yelled it.

[1086] That's how you got to clap.

[1087] Did you notice that I very sadly covered up bottle and you stuck your entire fucking hand inside of.

[1088] I'm going to put this so...

[1089] It's not that I don't love you?

[1090] I'm just going to make sure I don't ever touch that again.

[1091] I'm just kind of a germapho.

[1092] Okay.

[1093] But she's only indicted for trial for the murder of Marcia, her daughter.

[1094] But the arraignment allowed that prosecution could bring in evidence related to the other three deaths as evidence of her like system and what she did.

[1095] So even though she wasn't getting tried for those hadn't been convicted.

[1096] for those.

[1097] I feel like that wouldn't fly today, you know, but fuck it, this chick is a fucking cunt.

[1098] It turns out she's reading a quote from the judge.

[1099] It's a different time.

[1100] Okay, the newspapers go out of their fucking minds because of the, quote, glamorous platinum -haired widow.

[1101] What's this?

[1102] Uh -huh.

[1103] Yeah, especially when, okay, so when police through her house, they discover, quote, voodoo paraphernalia, including candles, written spells, potions, powders, and roots.

[1104] Like, I don't know, you know, roots into the ground?

[1105] You mean these?

[1106] No. Deep gray roots.

[1107] So she's into some fucking wick and shit.

[1108] And her trial starts in October of 1958.

[1109] Her defense is that she tries to blame it on, oh, that she tries initially to blame the murder of her two husbands on her mother -in -law and it says she did it her mother -in -law killed her two husbands yeah her own son and then her other husband yeah and then the maid was like this is not fucking like the maid was like uh -uh yeah so basically her it was blonde to shit so the jury takes an hour to declare her guilty recommends against mercy and she's sentenced to die in the electric chair for the murder of her daughter.

[1110] Fuck.

[1111] Wow.

[1112] Yeah.

[1113] I think that's fair.

[1114] Yeah.

[1115] But she's eventually granted a stay of execution because they were like, well, we can't kill a white woman.

[1116] It was like, you know what I mean?

[1117] We can't put a white woman to death.

[1118] Yeah.

[1119] But they did start planning her funeral.

[1120] And so...

[1121] But she would have been the first white woman executed in Georgia's history.

[1122] Wow.

[1123] But she wasn't.

[1124] A sanity...

[1125] That's not sanitary.

[1126] That sanity commission examines her and they decide that she's schizophrenic.

[1127] So that means she couldn't be executed.

[1128] I feel like they were just like, we really don't want to do this.

[1129] So she's transferred to the Central State Hospital.

[1130] So she's there for the next 18 years.

[1131] She becomes well known to other inmates for telling fortunes with playing cards.

[1132] and she dies of a heart attack in 1977 at 52 years old.

[1133] Wow.

[1134] But they fucking bury her in the same plot where her daughter and her first husband.

[1135] Yeah, so let's go graffiti that grave.

[1136] Hey, eh, uh -uh.

[1137] Nope, this is a comedy fictional podcast where no suggestions are, no suggestions are real.

[1138] Steven, don't you dare cut that out.

[1139] Don't you send the message across the world.

[1140] And that is murderous Anjet Donovan letters.

[1141] Wow, that is great.

[1142] Thank you.

[1143] Thank you.

[1144] She did not give a single fuck.

[1145] Do we have time?

[1146] In the bad way.

[1147] No. She was a terrible person.

[1148] Do we have time can I hit, do we have time for me to hit myself in the face with a microphone?

[1149] Okay, even before we stand up.

[1150] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1151] Because this is important.

[1152] We have some crucial rules that we need to lay down.

[1153] They're for your own good.

[1154] You have to remember that if you come up here to tell your hometown, everyone else in the audience who didn't get picked is going to hate you.

[1155] This is crucial.

[1156] So you better be good.

[1157] You have to be really good.

[1158] You have to know the names.

[1159] Don't be nervous.

[1160] You can't be nervous.

[1161] Can't be drunk.

[1162] Well, you can be buzzed.

[1163] You have to be able to follow your own story.

[1164] what are the other ones it should be local Georgia somewhere in and around yeah in and around you know just have fun with it yeah have fun with it it's easy it's no big deal at all natural fun all right come on you're gonna do it are you gonna do it?

[1165] I got this you got it I'm a teacher I got this oh she's a teacher it's Gina everybody hey this is Gina you've got this sorry really quick we're just gonna ask you a couple questions Okay.

[1166] Where are you from?

[1167] I am from South Carolina, but I live in Atlanta now.

[1168] She's a transplant.

[1169] It happens all the time.

[1170] What do you teach?

[1171] Well, I'm not a reading specialist, so I'm not really a teacher anymore, but I teach reading.

[1172] So if you have dyslexia, you help kids learn how to do it.

[1173] Nice.

[1174] Specialized.

[1175] Yeah, that's how you make that money.

[1176] Good.

[1177] That good money.

[1178] Yeah, girl.

[1179] That education money.

[1180] That's right.

[1181] Do you have a second job?

[1182] Just more teaching?

[1183] Given the ACTs on Saturdays, tutoring kids.

[1184] You're just dedicated, I love it.

[1185] I'm just trying to say, as my sister is a teacher, these are such teacher earrings.

[1186] I can't even explain it to you.

[1187] So I had to match.

[1188] Oh, yeah.

[1189] There's a pink cat nose.

[1190] So I had to wear bright pink earrings to match the pink cat nose.

[1191] That's right.

[1192] And I had pink lipstick on earlier.

[1193] What's your last name?

[1194] Page.

[1195] Like a page in a book.

[1196] Miss Paige.

[1197] I'll let you tell your story.

[1198] Yeah, go ahead.

[1199] So I went to a small women's college, not the one in Atlanta, one in Virginia, I'm sorry.

[1200] Small women's college in Virginia called Randolph -Macon.

[1201] And, oh my God, they're serious?

[1202] Okay.

[1203] Not now, not now, not now.

[1204] We'll look later.

[1205] We hate college.

[1206] So I went to this tiny women's college in Virginia called Randolph -Macon, and in the 70s, there was, so in the 70s, there were still curfews.

[1207] And when one night at curfew, someone's roommate didn't come back.

[1208] And so they were like, okay, what's going on?

[1209] Like, who is, everybody find out where your roommate's been.

[1210] So this one girl finds out where her roommate's been.

[1211] Nobody can find her.

[1212] Everybody's searching.

[1213] And they find her body on the boiler in a back building called Martin.

[1214] You know what?

[1215] I can't hear anything.

[1216] I'm sorry, there's a science building.

[1217] And they find her body on a boiler in the boiler room.

[1218] oh so everybody's like one no it's okay i've told it a million times um it's our legend this so you open up at dinners so really quick you guys I mean kind of yes yes um so they like shut down the campus and it turns out that this woman she was also the Hellman's mayonnaise heiress just as an aside that's not an aside when you said find her name I like tried to Google her name all quick Because I was like, oh shit, what is her name?

[1219] Maureen Helman, obviously.

[1220] We've got her patty mayonnaise.

[1221] Okay.

[1222] So apparently she had been like, we, our school was surrounded by a red brick wall.

[1223] And she had like walked off the Redbrook wall and she was, it was the 70s.

[1224] So she was wearing clogs.

[1225] And so she's like, she's like clomp, clomp, clomp in down to what was a restaurant that now, but it was the post office.

[1226] she's like, clomp, calm, calm down there.

[1227] And apparently the sound of it is driving someone crazy.

[1228] And this guy who had just gone out of a mental institution killed her and threw her body on the boiler.

[1229] And the way they found it is when they had to be like, whose roommate isn't here.

[1230] Wow.

[1231] And so whoever's roommate wasn't there was the girl whose roommate was dead.

[1232] And my first year roommate, her mom went there at the time.

[1233] And they said that they heard like a really loud scream.

[1234] But they were just like, oh, it's just people joshing around, whatever.

[1235] No. No, women's college.

[1236] It was not.

[1237] It was not.

[1238] Did they catch the guy?

[1239] Mm -hmm.

[1240] And he's, okay.

[1241] And it was just a one -off because he was mad at clogs.

[1242] Yeah, he just really, that fashion, he would be really mad right now because they're so back.

[1243] Yeah, they are back.

[1244] Yeah, they're really hard.

[1245] I'm never wearing myself.

[1246] I'm comfortable, so.

[1247] I wear them all the time.

[1248] Me too, dance goes.

[1249] Right?

[1250] Yeah.

[1251] Up top.

[1252] I'm a teacher.

[1253] Yeah.

[1254] So.

[1255] That was great.

[1256] Oh, my God, amazing.

[1257] That's how it's done.

[1258] That's how it's...

[1259] I want to say hi to my best friend, Kendall.

[1260] She's not here.

[1261] Okay.

[1262] But she's the one who told me about you guys.

[1263] Oh, thank you, Kendall.

[1264] And so that's why I'm here.

[1265] Good work.

[1266] Yay.

[1267] And none of us in here are ever going to eat mayonnaise the same way again.

[1268] I'm going to start checking into hotels as the Hellman's mayonnaise eras.

[1269] Might want to bump me up to the presidential suite.

[1270] Oh, we have special guests here tonight.

[1271] Oh, yeah.

[1272] Have you seen?

[1273] Did you know?

[1274] You guys are really into true crime podcasting.

[1275] Yeah.

[1276] In a way, in a way that makes us look really bad.

[1277] Because you actually do research.

[1278] They're real.

[1279] You produce it.

[1280] It's fucking good.

[1281] It's important topics.

[1282] Very important.

[1283] So we want to just give a shout out.

[1284] I'm not sure.

[1285] where they're sitting but we we Laura and Brooke from the fall line are here yes but we stand up where are they where you stand up is just so we can say hi to these guys they're right back we want everyone to stand amazing podcast you guys are incredible and also fucking pain Lindsay is here from the land of where is here I'm fan girling I know it's so fucking cool so we really respect you guys and it's incredible what you do and we're really we're embarrassed for you that you have to be in the same category as us so thank you I bet when they do live shows it's so quiet but Atlanta thank you so much for having us yeah this was so amazing you guys wow wow I know it's so crazy so crazy listen we started this podcast two years ago because George and I had one really long great conversation about true crime that we enjoyed ourselves and Georgia was like let's just record it see what happens in her apartment believe it was 900 degrees that day and two years later we're fucking here with you guys in Atlanta doing this so we just want to say how grateful we are for your support how amazing we think you are for the community that you are building yourselves, all murderinos and the way you guys are joining up and helping each other out and connecting and making friends is so beautiful to us and amazing.

[1286] We're just like, we're just fucking around and you guys are doing some amazing work, so.

[1287] We're honored to be a part of it, and so thank you guys so much.

[1288] It's very, very cool.

[1289] Thank you.

[1290] Thank you.

[1291] Thank you.

[1292] And stay sexy.

[1293] And Joe!

[1294] Bye you guys.