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Armchair Anonymous: Worst USA Trip

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard XX

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[0] Welcome, welcome, welcome to Armchair Anonymous.

[1] I'm Dan Rather, I'm joined by Dian's...

[2] Anonymous Padman.

[3] But you're going to call me Diane Sawyer?

[4] I was.

[5] Wow.

[6] Top of mine, because my Mike Nichols book, he's courting her right now in the book.

[7] Romance for the ages.

[8] Oh, God.

[9] A couple of fucking powerhouses.

[10] That's not a prompt powerhouses.

[11] Although...

[12] One day.

[13] Earmark that.

[14] Powerhouses.

[15] Tell us about a time that you are a powerhouse couple.

[16] No, we're not going to do that.

[17] Listen, this one is about worst trips to the U .S. of A, which was really fun because we got to talk to people from another country.

[18] International listeners.

[19] And these were so fun.

[20] One of them was so funny.

[21] Oh, my God.

[22] Yes.

[23] Yes, yes, yes.

[24] One of them's got some twists and turns.

[25] So funny.

[26] Great storyteller.

[27] This is a good batch.

[28] Everyone can listen.

[29] Yeah, I'm trying to think if there's any of the four that you can't listen to.

[30] No, you can listen to all of them.

[31] Okay.

[32] Right.

[33] There's no talks of first class lounge buffets gone sideways or anything like that.

[34] We should have said you can't listen to the fact check from a couple weeks ago or last week or whatever.

[35] The one we just did?

[36] Yeah.

[37] From next weekend last week.

[38] Yeah.

[39] Please enjoy this episode of Armchair Anonymous bad trips to the U .S. of A. All times.

[40] Come and go.

[41] Take them slow.

[42] I had a mo. Hello.

[43] Hi.

[44] You can hear us.

[45] I can hear you.

[46] Yes, can you hear me. Yes, I can.

[47] Maritz, where are you calling us from?

[48] Very close to Stuttgart, Germany.

[49] Oh.

[50] Okay.

[51] And are you German?

[52] I'm German, yes.

[53] Well, it's so nice to have you on the show.

[54] Yeah.

[55] We've never heard terrible trips to the U .S. Not hard to imagine how that could happen.

[56] We're excited and we're going to try not to be defensive.

[57] Yeah, we're going to try not to be defensive.

[58] that's good yeah thank you it's so surreal to see you because i hear you all the time but i'll start oh please we had twins in the beginning of 2018 and we're planning a parental leave to do a vacation in the u .s because my wife has family in georgia ding ding ding yes and we were planning on fly into miami and then a trip with a motor home on the west coast of florida to georgia and stay there with the family for a few days and then fly back.

[59] So we have the luxury in Germany to have parental leave.

[60] My wife had this month off.

[61] I had the month of it was November of 2018.

[62] So, Maritz, really quick, I love this plan that you're going to do some motorhoming in the U .S. Is that something that seems bizarrely American, this whole motorhome culture?

[63] Not at all.

[64] Actually, we own a motorhome.

[65] Oh, you do.

[66] Okay, in Germany you do.

[67] Yeah, we do.

[68] We just came back on.

[69] Saturday night from three weeks in France.

[70] So we are motorhome people.

[71] Oh, wonderful.

[72] But the great country of the U .S., which is vastly bigger than anything we have here, that was a kick for us.

[73] And so we thought, okay, let's try this.

[74] Should be good fun with the kids.

[75] So we had to book an hotel or an Airbnb before we can step on the motorhome just for two or three days.

[76] I think it's for the authorities so they can have an address to look for you.

[77] And so we went there from the airport and the flight was actually fine.

[78] We were a little nervous about the flight because the girls were then 10 months old.

[79] Oh, yeah.

[80] And two of them.

[81] Double the threat.

[82] But it was fine.

[83] We went to the Airbnb.

[84] We had our first day there just do a little shopping, settling in.

[85] And the plan was to go on the third day to go to the rental company, get the motor home, and then take off.

[86] So we were there the second night and the first daughter started vomiting all over the place.

[87] Oh, boy.

[88] It was really bad, actually.

[89] Then it kept happening.

[90] And then we were kind of concerned what to do.

[91] So we went to an urgent care center, which was nearby the place we stayed.

[92] They said, we don't really know, but with small kids, they could dehydrate.

[93] So it's better to get to the ER.

[94] So we said, okay, it was late at night, but what else would you do?

[95] So we went to the ER, classical ER stuff.

[96] We waited and waited and waited and then we got into a doctor's room and they were very nice, very patient.

[97] They said to us, she has very low vitals.

[98] So we have to do a few tests.

[99] We have to give her an IV.

[100] We have to monitor her overnight.

[101] So we said, okay, my wife stays with her.

[102] I'm going back to the Airbnb with the other one.

[103] That was the first day.

[104] So far, so good.

[105] Oh, God.

[106] Somewhere in between that, I called our insurance company because in Germany we have general health insurance.

[107] But if you go somewhere outside the EU, it's better if you have an extra health insurance, especially for the U .S., because the U .S. system is so different than the European systems.

[108] So we did that.

[109] We booked an insurance policy for this exact month beforehand.

[110] So I called them.

[111] They said, hmm, can't find your name.

[112] Oh, no. And I said, yes.

[113] I know we booked this because my wife is a very good planner.

[114] So I know we have that.

[115] She sent me a photo of the letter.

[116] This is the policy.

[117] This is the number.

[118] And they said, we can't find that.

[119] What?

[120] It was late at night in Germany then.

[121] So we said, okay, let's try something tomorrow.

[122] Me and the other kid, we went back to the hospital.

[123] The next day to visit, they said, yeah, they have to do some more tests because the vitals were going up and down.

[124] They were kind of concerned.

[125] And we were too, of course.

[126] And they said you have to test for diabetes because she can't keep the glucose level.

[127] That's going to take two or three days.

[128] And we said, okay, yeah, that's our first week canceled, I guess.

[129] But okay, maybe it works.

[130] This is awful.

[131] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[132] In another country in the hospital.

[133] And I'm so stressed about the insurance situation.

[134] Me too, me too.

[135] I think that's going to.

[136] Because it's not cheap to spend the night at the hospital, yeah.

[137] While we were visiting someone from the accounting from the hospital came up to a room very politely took me to the side and said, did you figure something out with your insurance company?

[138] I said, I'm trying to.

[139] We really have this.

[140] I showed her the letter, but it's in German, so she understandably didn't give a fuck.

[141] She told me, okay, if you want your wife and your daughter to stay, you have to do a down payment or something.

[142] I say, okay, I understand.

[143] Maybe I can get that back later with my insurance companies.

[144] I think it was the first thousand dollars.

[145] So this goes on for two or three days.

[146] They do a lot more tests.

[147] They have a lot more doctors.

[148] coming.

[149] Then they said with an insurance company, it doesn't really work, so you have to do another down payment.

[150] I said, okay, how high?

[151] What are we talking about?

[152] They said, we would like to see 5 ,000.

[153] Oh, God.

[154] Boy.

[155] Because of all the tests, and they were very nice.

[156] I'm not blaming them, and it was a great hospital we felt cared for, but it was kind of weird.

[157] Because in Germany, you have a card for your insurance, and that's all you know.

[158] That's all you give a hospital, and that's it.

[159] Right.

[160] They do all the rest.

[161] negotiating fees per day, yeah.

[162] And then paid $5 ,000.

[163] And then they said, okay, she's stable now.

[164] If you want to, you can take her home.

[165] All the while, I had to book another Airbnb because the one we stayed before had another renter.

[166] I picked the place somewhere I really didn't know where, but it was big enough.

[167] It was very expensive because it was last minute.

[168] That piled up as well.

[169] Oh, my God.

[170] As we now know, it wasn't the in the best neighborhood of Miami.

[171] We went there for the last time to pick them up.

[172] My daughter was feeling very much better and my wife was feeling okay.

[173] And we didn't really know what it was.

[174] It wasn't diabetes.

[175] It wasn't the regular kind of stuff.

[176] So they said it has to be a virus.

[177] Oh, my God.

[178] Turns out it was just a $90 ,000 virus.

[179] When we picked them up, the very nice and polite accountant came and said, okay, you're leaving.

[180] We didn't figure this out with your insurance company, which I tried all the time.

[181] tried and it didn't work.

[182] They said, if you want to leave, you have to pay another $3 ,000.

[183] Oh, yeah, yay.

[184] Of course, we want to leave.

[185] So, of course, credit card, $3 ,000.

[186] So you're at $9 ,000 so far.

[187] Yeah, about $9 ,000, yes.

[188] And then as we went to leave, I felt like, hmm, my stomach hurts now.

[189] Oh.

[190] This is not real.

[191] I go to the bathroom.

[192] Of course, I brought jacktile vomit all over the place.

[193] Oh, my God.

[194] I come out, my wife looks at me and says, no. I say yes.

[195] We won't stay there.

[196] A, it's a children's hospital.

[197] B, it's pretty expensive to be in the hospital.

[198] We're going back to the Airbnb place.

[199] We had to stop two times so I can puke on the shoulder of the highway.

[200] Oh, boy.

[201] It's kind of a blur, but my wife said it was four to five days as well.

[202] In the bad neighborhood?

[203] Yeah.

[204] I kind of felt better on day four of four.

[205] So I helped my wife put the kids down.

[206] I gave the second twin the formula and, of course, everything went out again.

[207] And this goes on for three or four days.

[208] No one's really healing.

[209] At this time, it was our plan to have another rental car and then just drive to her family and that's it.

[210] But then, of course, it was my wife's turn after that.

[211] So we were there three weeks.

[212] Oh, my God.

[213] No. Doing nothing but being in the hospital and being in the hospital and being in the.

[214] the Airbnb.

[215] Oh, my God.

[216] Oh, man. We were lucky because we have some friends in Miami, so they brought us food.

[217] They helped us where they could help without being too close to us.

[218] Yeah, you're using the word lucky loosely, but yes, that was nice of your friends.

[219] I don't know if you're lucky.

[220] And then we drove up to my wife's family, stayed there for a couple of days because we had our flight back to Germany.

[221] And then when we landed in Germany, a few weeks later, a big letter came from the hospital with the bill.

[222] So it was about $32 ,000 on top of the already...

[223] No. The nine.

[224] The nine that we already paid.

[225] Our insurance company told us in the end, they filed our form wrong.

[226] They should have done the month of November, but they filed the month of December.

[227] Oh, boy.

[228] They said it was our fault.

[229] There's no fault in their system whatsoever.

[230] So we didn't pay anything more than what we paid in the hospital directly.

[231] Yeah.

[232] And it went to our lawyer to a court somewhere.

[233] We don't know what they negotiated in the end.

[234] But that was our glorious paradigm to leave in the U .S. Oh, my Lord.

[235] That is such a nightmare.

[236] Terrible.

[237] Also, so stressful because for the first five days you think something's really wrong with your baby.

[238] And just when that passes, you go to a scary neighborhood.

[239] And then you stay there for another two weeks.

[240] And then you look at your credit card bill and then you get a real pop -out fright.

[241] Oh, that's real scary.

[242] Have you been back?

[243] Yeah, of course, many times.

[244] Oh, good.

[245] I feel like you need a redo of that vacation.

[246] Just think if you would have gone into it saying, I'm going to blow $9 ,000 on this trip.

[247] I'm going to get myself a big Class A motorhome.

[248] You could have gotten like a provost or a new home.

[249] I was too scared to add up all the things we paid because the motorhome I had to cancel, of course.

[250] It was last minute, so they didn't refund us.

[251] Very pricey.

[252] Yeah, you could have gone to the Maldives or something.

[253] thing probably for a couple weeks.

[254] Oh, wow.

[255] It's great meeting you, and we're very flattered that you're listening in Germany.

[256] This is delightful.

[257] Yeah, yeah, of course.

[258] It's eye -opening, and it's very entertaining.

[259] Thank you.

[260] Thank you.

[261] I really hope all your remaining trips here are much different.

[262] Whenever you're in Germany, let me know.

[263] Okay, lovely.

[264] We have great hospitals, and they're not depressed.

[265] And you got Porsche right down the road.

[266] Yes.

[267] Yes, that's worth the trip.

[268] All right, great meeting you.

[269] Oh, Peter Zane.

[270] Oh, yeah, I got snuck that in there.

[271] You must have been impressive that I didn't do any German before that.

[272] Yeah, I am.

[273] It took all my self -restraigned.

[274] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[275] I was tempted to ask him how much his pullover was.

[276] His pull -y.

[277] Oh, my God.

[278] Holy smokes.

[279] That is the nightmare of all nightmares.

[280] So it was just a stomach bug.

[281] Yes.

[282] And what shitty timing that they didn't all just get it at once, that they went one after another.

[283] I hope he was, is a drinker.

[284] Like, I hope he was able to drink his way through a lot of that.

[285] I didn't get that vibe.

[286] I didn't either.

[287] Hello?

[288] Oh, my God, is this real?

[289] Is this Nicolette?

[290] That's right.

[291] That's my name.

[292] Oh, welcome to the show.

[293] Thank you so much.

[294] I'm so excited.

[295] Where are you at?

[296] I'm from Melbourne, Australia.

[297] Oh, fine.

[298] This is so fun, because normally at the beginning of each of these, we ask, where are you at?

[299] And it's always like, Idaho.

[300] Yeah, boring.

[301] places.

[302] So this is so fun.

[303] Are you in Melbourne?

[304] I sure am.

[305] So it's currently 3 a .m. Oh, shit.

[306] Oh, my God.

[307] We didn't even think about that.

[308] Do you love Daniel Ricardo?

[309] Look, I'm not the biggest F1 fan, but I can appreciate him.

[310] He's awesome.

[311] He's gorgeous, right?

[312] He's so charming.

[313] Totally.

[314] Well, already meeting you and seeing how wonderfully cheerful you are, it breaks my heart already that you would have had a bad trip here, but I can't wait to hear how it went awry.

[315] Okay.

[316] So this happened in 2010, so quite a few years ago.

[317] And it was our first ever family overseas holiday.

[318] So I was with my parents and my two younger brothers.

[319] So I was 18 at the time.

[320] My brother, Dean, was 16.

[321] And my little brother, Jason, was about to turn 14.

[322] So we were so excited.

[323] And the main reason we were going was to visit family we had in Florida.

[324] Really quick.

[325] We've only talked to one other person for this prompt.

[326] And they two went to Florida.

[327] So already I'm a little, I'm already a little.

[328] I'm already a little.

[329] nervous about people making that their destination.

[330] Were you guys going to go to Orlando to Disney World?

[331] Funnily enough, they lived close to Orlando, but we went to Disneyland in L .A. instead.

[332] Oh.

[333] They go to Disney World all the time.

[334] They were a bit sick of it, to be honest.

[335] Sure.

[336] That's not where the story is set, actually.

[337] So the story happened in San Francisco.

[338] You traveled all over.

[339] You went to Florida, but then you went all over.

[340] Exactly right.

[341] So Florida was just one of the locations.

[342] We went to L .A. and then San Fran.

[343] When we arrived in and Fran, we were quite shocked by all the homeless people around.

[344] It was really sad and we'd never experienced anything like that before.

[345] And one of the nights actually, mum and I were followed back to our hotel by a homeless man. So we were really scared.

[346] On one of the days, my parents had decided that we'd do a bus to us throughout the city to get our bearings and see all the main sites.

[347] This bus was like this big double -decker bus.

[348] So we didn't really have many of them where I'm from.

[349] So we were so excited.

[350] run, of course, to the very top, to the very front.

[351] We wanted the best seats in the house.

[352] On this particular day, it was quite overcast, a bit rainy, so we were the only ones at the top.

[353] Awesome.

[354] I was at the front with my brother, Dean, and then Jason was next to my mom.

[355] My dad was somewhere downstairs with the bus driver.

[356] Let's just call him Greg, just for the story.

[357] Really quick, are we calling your dad Greg or the bus driver, Greg?

[358] No, the bus driver.

[359] Okay, okay, Greg, the bus driver.

[360] Just want to be clear.

[361] Greg was like this 60 to 7 year old man. So lovely, super knowledgeable, knew all his stuff.

[362] He was doing a really good job of talking us through the sites.

[363] So as we're driving around, we're like coming across this bridge.

[364] So it looks like we're going to drive under this bridge, right?

[365] And I thought to myself, it looks a bit low.

[366] Oh, no. Clearly Greg knows what he's doing, right?

[367] Absolutely.

[368] You would imagine he does the same.

[369] route nonstop.

[370] Exactly right.

[371] Then we're getting closer and it's definitely too low.

[372] I duck.

[373] So does Dean.

[374] Jason ducks.

[375] My mom doesn't move.

[376] Oh.

[377] Mom stays still.

[378] Because she's an optimist or because she's not paying attention?

[379] Both.

[380] Let's just say.

[381] So Jason's turned and realized she's not moving.

[382] So he pulls her down.

[383] Unfortunately, it was a tad late.

[384] So on her way down, her head clips the side of the concrete bridge.

[385] Oh, my God.

[386] At the same time, there were these like side rails on the top of the bridge.

[387] They also collide with the bridge.

[388] And they snap backwards and snap off and cause like a jolt on the bus.

[389] So obviously Gregs realized that because he felt that jolt.

[390] And he stops and then reverses the bus.

[391] bus immediately.

[392] So we all get off.

[393] Mom's okay.

[394] She's a bit confused and days like what the heck just happened.

[395] It's more like a shot.

[396] Greg is catatonic.

[397] He's like, well, what did I just do?

[398] And he thinks he's going to end up in debtor's prison at this point, right?

[399] He's going to get sued.

[400] Yeah, yeah.

[401] He then says he normally only drives single story buses and they just so happen to give him a double story one today.

[402] Oh my God.

[403] I know.

[404] Oh, my God.

[405] Greg.

[406] I felt so bad for him.

[407] Like, He was so nice and it was awful.

[408] You could tell how horrible he felt.

[409] Oh my God, but also you all could have got decapitated.

[410] If we were facing the other way, yeah, it's not good.

[411] Oh my God.

[412] My dad takes mum to the hospital and my brothers and I go back to the hotel.

[413] So our hotel was in Union Square, so right in the center of everything.

[414] And we had no communication with my parents because my dad, of course, had the only phone.

[415] We hadn't heard from them all day.

[416] We didn't know what was happening with mom.

[417] And for some reason, we decided to watch a prison documentary as if we weren't stressed enough.

[418] Okay.

[419] And then we hear like a bit of a ruckus going on outside.

[420] So we take a look at the window and there's a SWAT team entering the hotel directly opposite out.

[421] Oh, exciting.

[422] My God.

[423] Okay, opposite yours, though, not your hotel, luckily.

[424] Not our hotel, just directly opposite us.

[425] So we literally closed the blinds.

[426] We ran to the bed.

[427] Like, we were too scared to move from then on.

[428] Yes.

[429] At this point were you thinking, like, wow, these shows that they send to Australia don't really represent what this country is all about.

[430] Pretty much.

[431] Yeah.

[432] Were you having, like, cognitive dissonance?

[433] Like, wait, this place is a war zone.

[434] Yeah, exactly.

[435] Mom and dad come back.

[436] She's fine.

[437] They've done all the relevant scans and stuff.

[438] She's got some questionable memory these days, though.

[439] Don't know if that's related.

[440] Oh, my God.

[441] Greg.

[442] Greg, I know.

[443] I hope Greg doesn't know.

[444] I hope he doesn't know.

[445] No, he already feels bad enough.

[446] He doesn't even know about the like residual yet.

[447] I know.

[448] And the tour company covered mom's medical expenses.

[449] So that was nice.

[450] And then they also gave her a $300 Macy's voucher.

[451] So they did something.

[452] Did you say a Macy's facial?

[453] Voucher.

[454] Voucher.

[455] Voucher.

[456] I thought you said Macy's facial.

[457] It's just like, because of the injury.

[458] Like, let's go get your skin back together.

[459] That's so random, Macy's gift card.

[460] Oh, that is.

[461] It makes me think someone in the office just had it.

[462] Yeah, for sure.

[463] Oh, true.

[464] Oh, no. Oh, God.

[465] I'm so glad you guys are okay because you hear those stories about someone putting their hand out.

[466] Ruthie's whole foot was ripped off, you know that?

[467] Right, but at least it wasn't.

[468] Yeah.

[469] But sometimes.

[470] It was, and they reattached it.

[471] Yeah.

[472] Sorry you had to hear that, Nicolette.

[473] No, that's okay.

[474] Just glad you're okay.

[475] Have you been back?

[476] Have you had a trip that redeemed all this?

[477] So I haven't been back to San Francisco.

[478] I don't think I'm king to go back there.

[479] That's a wrap on San Francisco.

[480] But I've been back twice now.

[481] Love the States.

[482] Awesome place.

[483] Okay.

[484] Because we almost lost you.

[485] Yeah.

[486] And I would not blame you for not wanting to come back here.

[487] I would think like this place is run by circus performers.

[488] It's also crazy because we're so.

[489] obsessed with suing.

[490] I know.

[491] It is weird that that happened.

[492] Totally agree.

[493] I guess you would presume that in such a litigious society, things would be safest here because people would be afraid.

[494] But I don't think that's the case.

[495] I think our incident rate of accidents is as high as anyone, maybe worse.

[496] Nicolette, I'm glad mom made it.

[497] She's good.

[498] Yeah.

[499] Do you like I said, mom?

[500] Yeah, I heard it.

[501] Yes.

[502] Erasing the progress I had made with the German guest.

[503] Can I just say, Dax, without a paddle, is literally one of our favorite movies ever.

[504] We watch it all the time.

[505] Oh, that makes me so happy.

[506] You know it was shot right next door to you in New Zealand.

[507] Have you toured New Zealand?

[508] I have.

[509] Yes, do any of those places look familiar, like Rotorua and the rivers?

[510] We went to Rotorua, and we were told that you guys filmed parts there, so it was so cool.

[511] Oh, that makes me so happy.

[512] And I love you both so much.

[513] Like, I listen to you guys almost every day.

[514] Thank you for doing this, and thank you for letting me have this opportunity.

[515] as well.

[516] Oh, so nice to meet you.

[517] Wonderful meeting you.

[518] Take care.

[519] Go back to sleep.

[520] I don't know.

[521] Thank you.

[522] Wow, 3 a .m. We did not even think about that.

[523] I didn't.

[524] They're all over the world.

[525] Yeah.

[526] There's no way we were been able to plan.

[527] We're such American exceptionalists.

[528] Well, we did this one slightly earlier to accommodate some people.

[529] Yeah.

[530] I did notice.

[531] I was like, that's early.

[532] Yeah, we were mad with our exceptionalism.

[533] We were exceptionally mad about the start time.

[534] Oh, my God.

[535] Her mom definitely.

[536] could have been decapitated.

[537] To be totally honest with you, this might be controversial.

[538] I actually feel worse for Greg in this whole scenario, more than the mom.

[539] Like, if I get clunked in the head by a bridge, and then I don't have any brain damage, I go to the hospital, everything's groovy, versus I drove a vehicle into a bridge and injured a woman.

[540] I would be thinking about that for years.

[541] I guess I'm more sad about poor Greg.

[542] You don't think I should feel for Greg.

[543] Yeah, no. It's fine.

[544] You can.

[545] You can.

[546] You can.

[547] You can.

[548] Okay.

[549] We'll have space for all of it.

[550] Hello.

[551] Do I pronounce your name Koshik?

[552] Close enough, it's Kauschik.

[553] I was actually curious on how you guys are going to do that.

[554] Yeah, Kauschik.

[555] I like that.

[556] Where are you from?

[557] Originally, India from the southern part called Chennai.

[558] How close to that is Kerala?

[559] So we are basically Florida and Georgia.

[560] Nice.

[561] The southern east side is Laminado, which is a state.

[562] And the southern west is Kerala, which is another state.

[563] A lot of Padman's running around there?

[564] Yeah, shock wants to.

[565] Where are you at currently?

[566] Right now, living in Lone Star State in Dallas.

[567] Oh, no kidding.

[568] Just moved here a couple of months ago.

[569] From New York City.

[570] From New York City, okay.

[571] It's such a change.

[572] Oh, yeah, that's the culture shock for sure.

[573] It is.

[574] Pros and cons.

[575] More space.

[576] Yeah, have my own laundry unit.

[577] Okay.

[578] Boom.

[579] Have my own huge walk -in closet.

[580] Yes, that's good.

[581] A garage for car parking, too.

[582] Oh, my God.

[583] These are big, big improvements from New York.

[584] They're all house -related.

[585] But the food, far less options.

[586] Yeah.

[587] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[588] And the public transportation sucks, too.

[589] And easier to be brown in New York City than Dallas, or do you not feel the difference?

[590] There's a huge South Asian population in Dallas.

[591] Wonderful.

[592] Monica, maybe you should get a vacation home there.

[593] Okay, sure.

[594] To the point where wherever you go, I would say five or ten people are brown.

[595] Oh, no, that's wonderful.

[596] Was that a surprise to you, or did you expect that?

[597] Yeah, it was.

[598] I was expecting, like, a cowboy state.

[599] Like, oh, I'm going to come in here.

[600] All I'm going to see is people with hats, cowboy boots.

[601] Yeah, all the women would look like Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders, blonde hair, big boobs.

[602] I was excited for that, but not going to.

[603] Okay, tell us about your terrible trip to the U .S. Obviously, your concurrent trip isn't the one we're going to talk about.

[604] This was my first trip.

[605] So just to give you guys a background.

[606] This was my first trip to the U .S. and first trip by myself, too.

[607] I just turned 21.

[608] And this trip was not like a vacation.

[609] This was my trip that I am uprooting from India to come to the U .S. to do my master's degree.

[610] So basically, this was me moving to another country completely.

[611] Oh, boy.

[612] Okay.

[613] I got very lonely moving just from Michigan to California.

[614] I can't imagine what it's like to move around the world.

[615] It was a shock, but I'm here.

[616] And another thing is I'm a big dude.

[617] I am like, six foot five inches tall.

[618] Wow.

[619] You're seated so I can't really tell.

[620] That's very tall for an Indian person.

[621] I know.

[622] I've got that a lot.

[623] Yeah.

[624] It's not.

[625] I'm a lot.

[626] You were racist earlier and I'm not.

[627] Why that you would be so at home that half the people would be brown?

[628] Yeah.

[629] You didn't like that.

[630] Sorry.

[631] No, it's not good.

[632] Yeah, I've got that a lot.

[633] They would be like, oh, did you play basketball?

[634] I'm like, no, I grew up in India.

[635] We don't play basketball.

[636] We play cricket.

[637] Yeah, exactly.

[638] Right.

[639] My itinerary was to land at JFK and then take another flight from JFK to Daytona Beach, Florida.

[640] That's where I was going to go to school for.

[641] We're three for three on Florida.

[642] Yes.

[643] You're the third person we've talked to about worst U .S. trips and all three now have started in Florida.

[644] They have to do with Florida.

[645] Yeah, yeah.

[646] What school were you going to attend down there?

[647] It's called Embry Riddell Aronautical University.

[648] So I did my master's in aeronautical science.

[649] Aerospace.

[650] Yeah, baby.

[651] Yeah, that's what my bachelor's was.

[652] I was an aerospace engineer.

[653] Oh, wow.

[654] Cool.

[655] I had a a four -hour connection.

[656] I was excited that I was going to be in JFK in New York City, even though I knew I wasn't going to step out of the airport.

[657] It just felt good to be in New York.

[658] We landed and the captain announced saying there was some sort of security issue at JFK and we weren't going to go to the gate until we get the clearance.

[659] So we were just sat down on the tarmac.

[660] And then this was me traveling for 24 hours, tired, jet lagged and all of that.

[661] So I decided to take a nap.

[662] And I was woken up by people cheering and clapping.

[663] So I was like, okay, so we started moving.

[664] And with the captain announced, where are your seatballs, we're moving.

[665] We got to the gate.

[666] We got down.

[667] Again, all my excitement is back on now.

[668] Like, I'm going to JFK.

[669] As I stepped out of the aircraft onto the jet bridge, I saw a lot of security guards.

[670] This is not like just your regular cops.

[671] These were people with huge weapons with bulletproof vests on, helmets on.

[672] You can't even see their face.

[673] They were like fully suited.

[674] it up.

[675] SWAT team.

[676] Pretty much.

[677] But they had nothing written on it or anything.

[678] It was just completely black.

[679] Wow.

[680] So being so naive, I was like, okay, maybe this is how people are welcomed in the U .S. on an international flag.

[681] By special forces.

[682] Exactly.

[683] I'm like, oh, they want to make sure all of them who are coming down are intimidated.

[684] No, who's boss.

[685] Welcome, but we're boss.

[686] That's pretty much what I thought.

[687] One of the security guards, I don't even know what to call them.

[688] Let's just say guards.

[689] One of those guards asked us, there's an active gunman at the airport.

[690] Oh, my God.

[691] All of you guys kneel down.

[692] Oh, why did they let you guys off the plane?

[693] Being in aviation, I'm assuming the flight crews cannot be in the aircraft for certain number of hours.

[694] So they might have timed out that they should go to the gate.

[695] Yeah.

[696] That's what I'm assuming, knowing what I know now, but I don't know what happened there.

[697] Also perhaps just flights are continuing to land and they can't have airplanes not at the gates.

[698] Yeah, it's probably overcrowded.

[699] So we got there.

[700] Again, growing up in India, we have our own problems, but gun violence isn't one of those.

[701] So we weren't trained on what to do.

[702] So I had no clue whatsoever on what to do.

[703] I was so flustered.

[704] All my excitement freaking turned into fear.

[705] Okay, okay.

[706] The guard, again, goes, you guys have to lay down completely flat.

[707] I'm playing a lot of scenarios in my head.

[708] I kneel down and then hear somebody scream close to me. Oh.

[709] And my heart went out of the roof.

[710] I was like, okay, I'm going to die.

[711] I just moved out of my family and I'm going to die before even seeing New York.

[712] This is what I get for having ambitious dreams.

[713] Are you starting to feel guilty?

[714] Like, oh, this is my punishment for wanting something.

[715] Pretty much.

[716] I'm not even kidding.

[717] At one point, I thought all my family is going to have to take care of my student loans now because I'm dead now.

[718] Oh, my God.

[719] Yeah, my immigrant guilty consciousness went out of the room.

[720] And again, all of this was playing in my head.

[721] And then I turned around, this poor old woman had.

[722] blood gushing out of her face.

[723] What?

[724] What?

[725] So what had happened was when I laid down flat, I had kicked her right behind me. And I had no idea I did that.

[726] Oh no, no. You went from the victim to the assailant.

[727] Imagine being a brown man with a beard at the airport with people with weapons right in front of you.

[728] Yes.

[729] Oh my gosh.

[730] Oh, no. This is awful.

[731] This is so dark to ask this.

[732] But do you think just because she was old, there was no resistance when your foot hit her face?

[733] It just kind of, yeah, that you didn't even notice.

[734] For all, it's what?

[735] She could be like a 40 -year -old looking like a 70 -year -old.

[736] I don't know.

[737] All right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[738] Yeah, white people age a little differently than brown people.

[739] Racist, okay.

[740] I can't say that.

[741] I said it.

[742] I said it.

[743] I said it.

[744] I only have one infraction.

[745] You have two.

[746] Yours is times four.

[747] I didn't know what to do.

[748] And then I was super scared.

[749] that I was not even just dead.

[750] Now I'm scared that they are not going to let me inside the U .S. They're going to detain me or send me back home because I accidentally broke somebody's face.

[751] You know, assaulted an elderly woman.

[752] Oh my God.

[753] And then I raved at the guard.

[754] I told them I accidentally hit this woman and they literally took that lady from where we were.

[755] And then that God asked me to lay down flat.

[756] Okay.

[757] That's nice.

[758] And again, we were still laying down flat for like 30 minutes.

[759] At that point, I'm assuming that God had other things to worry about than me actually.

[760] accidentally hitting somebody.

[761] Yeah, yeah.

[762] And that was the last time I saw that lady.

[763] And again, if she's listening now, I am extremely sorry.

[764] This was an intentional.

[765] Yeah.

[766] If you're listening and you were a part of an active shooter airport situation where you were then kicked in the nose and escorted off by special forces, this abolish is for you.

[767] Yeah, 100%.

[768] Oh, my God.

[769] And she, too, obviously, was returning from India.

[770] So she had been on a plane for 24 hours.

[771] It's not India.

[772] So the connection is from India to Abu Dhabi and Abu Dhabi to the U .S. So she could just be in Abu Dhabi or she might be taking another flight from another country.

[773] So I don't know.

[774] But I know she was white.

[775] Okay.

[776] That's helpful.

[777] Yeah.

[778] That limits, I guess it's down to 200 of the 300 million.

[779] The guard comes back and then says all of you guys are good to go.

[780] That said, no other communication.

[781] This was again 30, 40 minutes after.

[782] No communication on what happened with the gunman, what the scenario was, nothing.

[783] And I was also in a sense of shock that I was looking at him.

[784] He wasn't looking at me. But I was like, even me, after what I just did, I can go, walk away.

[785] I was shocked.

[786] You're like, this is a loosey -goosey country.

[787] You can come into the airport, active shooter.

[788] You can pick some people on the face.

[789] Coming from India, people usually scared that when you go through immigration, that immigration officer has all the rights to send you back home.

[790] So again, with my anxiety, I was like, okay, the guard had told that immigration officer that I did something.

[791] so I'm going to go through immigration and that immigration officer is going to catch me and then send me back home.

[792] Yeah, when you stepped up to the immigration and you were probably sweating bullets, they thought you probably keystered like a brick of heroin or something.

[793] Wow, but they let you in fine.

[794] They let me in fine.

[795] And did you feel like you really wanted to tell them like, just so you know I did kick a lady.

[796] Well, what if they said, what's your purpose on this visit?

[797] And you're like, I just wanted to break an old lady's nose so I guess I can go home.

[798] I'm ready to go.

[799] They have a mission accomplished.

[800] Wow.

[801] Oh my God.

[802] What an incredible story.

[803] And also, while all of this was happening, my family back in India, this is my first trip outside.

[804] So they're tracking my flight.

[805] They're trying to see where I was.

[806] If I made the connection or not, my parents are pretty tech savvy.

[807] So they tracked my flight on Google.

[808] It said my flight landed five hours ago, but I haven't communicated to them.

[809] So they are freaking the fuck out that I am lost.

[810] I am dead or something.

[811] And then they try to see what's going on in New York.

[812] And then they see that there's an active gunman there before I did all their worst nightmares letting their baby boy go.

[813] I know.

[814] And then they're texting all these family friends who are in the U .S. Like, oh, what's going on?

[815] What's going to happen?

[816] I put out that fire once I crossed immigration.

[817] I started Googling and then just talking to people around.

[818] I am not even kidding.

[819] There was no gunmen.

[820] I know this story, by the way.

[821] This was kind of a famous them shutting down JFK and there wasn't a gunman.

[822] Wait, then what they just thought?

[823] On that day, it was Olympics.

[824] And Usain Bolt was running his 100 meters, and he broke this 9 .81 world record.

[825] And then people are watching that at a bar, I'm assuming.

[826] And people were cheering and clapping.

[827] I don't know how or who heard it as a gunshot.

[828] And then one led to the other.

[829] Somebody mentioned they actually saw a gunman.

[830] And then this rumor, false news just spread out.

[831] And they shut down the whole airport.

[832] and there was stampede at different terminals and I was involved in that and I broke a poor lady's face.

[833] Oh, my God.

[834] Maybe they heard the starter pistol of Yusain Bolt taking off from the blocks.

[835] Or like a big clap.

[836] Some people clap really loud.

[837] Maybe someone broke their glass.

[838] They were such a big fan of him.

[839] Wow.

[840] You're so cute.

[841] Oh, thank you.

[842] And this whole 6 '5 thing, are you finding that the American gals love you here?

[843] The Dallas gals?

[844] I am madded now, but I had my fair.

[845] Okay, great.

[846] You had a fun time.

[847] Yeah, I lived in New York, too.

[848] Yeah.

[849] Sure, it's easy pickings over there.

[850] 12 million to pick from.

[851] Yeah, and there's a lot of sim moments in this story too.

[852] So my dad texted me on August 15th of this year, saying it's been seven years since you moved to the U .S. And then I was revisiting this moment.

[853] And then my wife sends me this prompt saying, worst trip to the U .S. You should put in on that day.

[854] Wow.

[855] And I put in that day.

[856] That is crazy.

[857] Very sim.

[858] Now, does just your wife listen to the show, or do you listen to the show as well?

[859] She was the one who introduced me to the show.

[860] I'm a big fan of Formula One, so she sent me the Daniel Ricardo episode.

[861] And then from that day, I have just been a big, huge fan.

[862] We listen to every episode together.

[863] Oh.

[864] And she's right here, if you guys want to say hi.

[865] Yes.

[866] She's my technical support.

[867] Hi.

[868] Hi.

[869] I am such a huge fan.

[870] I don't know if y 'all can hear me. Yes.

[871] And are you from Georgia or somewhere?

[872] Where are you from?

[873] I was born and raised in Texas.

[874] Texas.

[875] The great state of Texas.

[876] I'm from Austin, so I know you all love Austin.

[877] We sure do.

[878] Where'd you meet this babe?

[879] He's such a babe.

[880] I know, right?

[881] Yes.

[882] I told him that Dax would probably comment on how good looks at me is.

[883] Yes, and the whole six, five of it all?

[884] I had no idea.

[885] Thanks, I'm boosting my ego, Dax.

[886] It's so funny because Indian people are known to be short.

[887] Exactly.

[888] And I'm 5 '7, which is pretty tall for an Indian woman.

[889] And so my family has always.

[890] he's been like, you're never going to find a husband that's taller than you.

[891] And I brought him home.

[892] So it was great.

[893] If you procreate, you might have the first Indian power forward in the NBA.

[894] Or WNBA.

[895] Yes.

[896] Great, great.

[897] Either or would work.

[898] But yes, this could be a real.

[899] Or just a giant.

[900] First Indian giant.

[901] First Indian giant.

[902] That could be.

[903] I'm sure there's been.

[904] Nope.

[905] I mean, we're going back, the Indus Valley.

[906] We're talking 6 ,000 years ago.

[907] They had to have produced a giant.

[908] Nope.

[909] No?

[910] Okay.

[911] I know there was one who was participating in the WWE, who was like seven foot five or something.

[912] Oh, and there's also a very famous Indian bodybuilder.

[913] He was in one of my bodybuilding documentaries.

[914] And he was not eating beef, which is most of these bodybuilders are eating six, seven pounds of beef a day.

[915] So it was harder for him.

[916] And I'm a vegetarian, too.

[917] It's not slowed down your growth at all.

[918] Yeah.

[919] Well, it's so nice meeting both of you.

[920] Thanks so much for that incredible story.

[921] Same here.

[922] Thank you so much.

[923] Take care of you guys.

[924] Bye.

[925] Okay.

[926] Be well.

[927] Oh, my God, I love them.

[928] Oh, my God.

[929] Those are some cute Indian people.

[930] Third time.

[931] That was a third time.

[932] They're just people, Monica.

[933] I'm allowed, Dax.

[934] This is the thing you don't understand.

[935] You have to play by the exact rules I do or you're a racist.

[936] You feel like you can do what I do.

[937] Oh, that was so funny.

[938] He was a great storyteller.

[939] Absolutely.

[940] What a left turn.

[941] You already have an A -plus story in that there's an active shooter at JFC.

[942] And then you fucking karate kick.

[943] He heard a scream, and it was because he kicked the old lady.

[944] And it scared him.

[945] He was the victim of his own assault.

[946] God.

[947] Thinking about my dad coming here, and it's like exciting.

[948] The only thing you and I and Robbie have to compare it to is coming to California, but that's got to be like one tenth of the fantasy.

[949] You know what American culture is.

[950] It's just so different.

[951] Here's Jessica.

[952] The parents.

[953] I cannot imagine.

[954] Can you even imagine them at home.

[955] Your parents.

[956] Yeah.

[957] And they're one step removed.

[958] Exactly.

[959] Hello.

[960] We don't see you.

[961] Hang on.

[962] I'm just going to see that one little recording part.

[963] Are you New Zealandy?

[964] I'm in New Zealand.

[965] Yeah.

[966] Kiwi Nation.

[967] Oh, hello.

[968] Now we can see you.

[969] What time is it there, Jessica?

[970] Oh, my gosh.

[971] It's 607 a .m. Oh, that's dreadful.

[972] Thank you for waking up.

[973] so early.

[974] It's fine.

[975] I'm an early bird.

[976] Oh, okay.

[977] Great.

[978] Okay.

[979] Do you know David?

[980] We have to ask.

[981] Do you know David Ferrier?

[982] Listen, I actually used to work where he worked.

[983] No. I'm in Auckland and I used to work at the same network that he used to work at.

[984] I was in sales.

[985] He's obviously, was a cool guy, a journalist, so I didn't really have anything to do with him.

[986] And he's also got face blindness.

[987] Yeah.

[988] I'm going to be honest with you, because I asked him, he does not have female body blindness.

[989] Oh, okay.

[990] Uh -huh.

[991] So I I think he can remember people's figures.

[992] Okay, good.

[993] I was 25, so I was kind of a little bit more top -notch than maybe he recognized.

[994] So, Jessica, you had an ill -fated trip to the U .S.?

[995] I was nervous this week because I was thinking, well, it's not a really terrible story, but it was a crazy story for our first experience in arriving in the States.

[996] Just to set the scene, this is in 2014, my husband and I were on our honeymoon.

[997] We hadn't left the country really, apart from Australia and Fiji, which is three hours away from us.

[998] the culture is pretty similar.

[999] So we went in a little bit naive about, I guess, the bigness.

[1000] That is the USA.

[1001] Yeah, yeah.

[1002] So we were flying into L .A. We arrived at 6 a .m., and it was dead quiet.

[1003] Okay.

[1004] We went really fast through customs.

[1005] We came out through the other side, and I thought, okay, there's going to be taxis lined up.

[1006] There's going to be everything waiting for us.

[1007] And then literally, there was nothing.

[1008] Is that normal?

[1009] None of that's normal.

[1010] Normally, it's quite busy.

[1011] Normally it takes forever to get.

[1012] L .A.'s border is the worst of all the airports I've landed in.

[1013] This is all weird.

[1014] We were just looking around being like, okay, well, how do we get to our hotel here?

[1015] Keep in mind, Uber was relatively new, I think, and especially in New Zealand.

[1016] We're a little bit of a late adopters.

[1017] We're walking around looking for how we could get out of this airport.

[1018] We just go find a phone book and literally, I don't know where this man appears.

[1019] He's in a nice soap.

[1020] Uh -oh.

[1021] And he says, are you guys looking for a ride?

[1022] Oh, no. And we said, oh, my gosh, we are.

[1023] and he says, oh, I'm a driver.

[1024] I have my car in the car park.

[1025] Would you like a ride?

[1026] We had been traveling for about 17 hours, I think, by this point, and we just thought, that sounds great.

[1027] Trusting Kiwis, you know, when I'm at home, if someone said they were a taxi driver and offered me right, I wouldn't question it, right?

[1028] I would just go, yeah, there's no real need to query the intention.

[1029] Oh, God, America.

[1030] He has a big escalade.

[1031] So I think the truth is he is a driver in some capacity.

[1032] Yes, this is what they do sometimes.

[1033] They're there on a run.

[1034] they dropped someone off.

[1035] They're like, hey, I could probably pick up another $60 bucks before I get my next call.

[1036] Yeah, $60 would have been lovely.

[1037] Uh -oh.

[1038] We jump in the car, get all our stuff in.

[1039] He says, where are you guys going?

[1040] We say, West Hollywood was staying at the standard.

[1041] We start driving out of the airport, and he says, by the way, you're really lucky.

[1042] This used to be Michael Jackson's personal car that I drove him around in.

[1043] Wait, what?

[1044] And my husband's a big MJ fan, and he was like, what?

[1045] And we were like, wow, that's so cool.

[1046] It's already happening.

[1047] You're coming to Hollywood.

[1048] You're already sitting where Michael Jackson sat.

[1049] This is perfect.

[1050] We're thinking, whoa, we've scored, right?

[1051] Yes, yes.

[1052] And he's saying, yeah, yeah, I drove him for years and years.

[1053] And here, take a look at this video.

[1054] Oh, oh.

[1055] So we think, oh, you see, this is when we got swarmed by the paparazzi and we were stuck in a car park.

[1056] Now, I thought we'd be seeing a video from the inside of a car, right?

[1057] Right.

[1058] That would make sense.

[1059] Yeah.

[1060] He, however, passes us a phone.

[1061] It's a TMZ video of a car being.

[1062] warmed.

[1063] Michael Jackson is in the car, but he is definitely not the driver.

[1064] Oh, okay.

[1065] And you can tell.

[1066] You could tell.

[1067] It was a completely different person.

[1068] So he says, you know, look at me there.

[1069] I'm stuck in the car.

[1070] We can't get out.

[1071] We were there for an hour, like, tells us a elaborate story.

[1072] And my husband and I look and he took in each other like, he's not right.

[1073] Or he's had massive facial reconstructive surgery.

[1074] Everything was different.

[1075] Okay.

[1076] Change his skin color, maybe.

[1077] Ethnicity.

[1078] Everything was different.

[1079] Right, right.

[1080] A full reboot.

[1081] Page one rewrite.

[1082] Okay.

[1083] But Michael Jackson did change the color of skin.

[1084] That's right.

[1085] He already had a reboot.

[1086] We decide, just sort of like telepathically, we're going to go along with this because we're now locked in this car.

[1087] So we just nod and say, okay, great.

[1088] We've got all our bags in the boot or trunk.

[1089] We don't want to risk losing everything for our six -week trip.

[1090] I then asked, how far is it to Hollywood?

[1091] And he says, oh, we're not going to Hollywood.

[1092] It's far too early for you to check in.

[1093] And I said, we can just drop our bags and go for breakfast.

[1094] And he says, no, no, no, no. We're only only one Malibu now.

[1095] I'm going to take you on a big tour.

[1096] No. Oh, no, no, no, no. Oh, my God.

[1097] We say, oh, we don't need that.

[1098] We're really tired.

[1099] We just want to go to the hotel.

[1100] He said, oh, this is the perfect time.

[1101] There's no traffic.

[1102] You're not going to get out to Malibu any other way.

[1103] And my husband goes, how much more is this going to cost us?

[1104] Because we hadn't even really talked about price.

[1105] And he goes, don't even worry about it.

[1106] You're new to the country.

[1107] We're going to drive around.

[1108] Oh, my God.

[1109] I have so much anxiety.

[1110] We head to Malibu, and on the way there, he says, listen, let me pass you my personal photographs of my time with Michael.

[1111] Also, my time was Slash.

[1112] I was his driver from Guns and Roses.

[1113] I used to babysit his kids.

[1114] You can look through that album.

[1115] And then we think, maybe he just looks different, because if he's got a personal album, he passes us a clear file.

[1116] And within that, a magazine cutouts of Michael Jackson, magazine cutouts of Slash.

[1117] This is very scary.

[1118] Yes.

[1119] This is a crazy person.

[1120] My husband and I are just staring at each other like, oh, my God, what have we done?

[1121] Like, what is going to happen here?

[1122] And I start getting quite panic.

[1123] I'm a bit of an overthinker.

[1124] I jump to the worst.

[1125] I think, we're going to be killed.

[1126] Yeah.

[1127] We're going to be a headline.

[1128] First time travelers killed an hour within arriving in L .A. Murdered by Michael Jackson's maybe driver.

[1129] Oh.

[1130] Did you know about 911?

[1131] Yes.

[1132] Okay.

[1133] But I didn't want to escalate anything prematurely.

[1134] I was just writing about this.

[1135] So when you're in these situations where, well, especially like, violent ones, you would think you'd be like, oh my God, this is terrible.

[1136] I'm getting shoved around.

[1137] But really, your brain goes, thank God I'm not getting hit.

[1138] So I just got to prevent this from escalating to getting hit.

[1139] And if you're getting hit, you go, we just can't get choked to death.

[1140] You would just immediately.

[1141] You level it.

[1142] Yes.

[1143] It was so weird how my husband and I were communicating in a way without words of just sort of looking at each other and going, we are just appeasing this situation.

[1144] We're just going to nod along because really I felt like my life depended on it.

[1145] He felt like we're going to get robbed, right?

[1146] So he didn't really ever feel physically threatened where I thought we did.

[1147] You know, we play along with the photos, which are literally magazine cutouts.

[1148] Oh, jeez.

[1149] It may be a signed headshot from Slash, but I feel like you don't have to have worked for Slash to get assigned headshot.

[1150] No. And we pull up in this, I guess it's a driveway.

[1151] It's sandy.

[1152] It's a bit dusty.

[1153] And he says, look, there's a walkway straight down there.

[1154] Walk down there.

[1155] And you'll be at Suzanne Somers.

[1156] house.

[1157] And it's kind of apparent to me he's got quite an obsession in the 90s.

[1158] I was just going to say he is stuck in the 90s.

[1159] By the way, you're in Malibu.

[1160] Like Leonardo DiCaprio's there, but he's taking you to Suzanne Summers.

[1161] I was like, oh, step by step.

[1162] Okay, I remember that show.

[1163] It's like one of those things where, if I was watching someone do this, I would be saying, why are you going to walk down that track?

[1164] Also, then now you can get out.

[1165] Yeah.

[1166] So we think, we can get out, because we can't open it from the inside.

[1167] So he lets us out, and we just start walking.

[1168] I catch up to my husband, I'm like, what are we doing?

[1169] How do we get out of this situation?

[1170] And he says, all our stuff's in the back.

[1171] I don't know.

[1172] Like, do we just cut our losses?

[1173] And we're having this little back and forth.

[1174] And then I hear him in the background say, easy money, easy money.

[1175] And he's spoken to someone that he can see, but we can't see.

[1176] And that is a moment where I go, I'm going to get shot in the head.

[1177] I just panic.

[1178] And I stop.

[1179] And I say, I don't care about Suzanne Summers.

[1180] And the guy says, okay.

[1181] I don't care about Susan.

[1182] disrespect to Suzanne, but just in that moment, that's not what you care about.

[1183] She's lovely.

[1184] I just said, I have to get to the car.

[1185] So I turn around and start going back, and my husband catches something.

[1186] He's like, what are you doing?

[1187] He's going to kill us.

[1188] He just said, easy money.

[1189] And he says, he's not going to kill us.

[1190] Calm down.

[1191] The man is waiting back by the car at this point.

[1192] And I said, I just want to get to the hotel.

[1193] This is really far out of where we're meant to be.

[1194] This feels strange.

[1195] And he's like, okay, okay, calmed out.

[1196] Like, you're lame.

[1197] Yeah, it's you.

[1198] Yeah, like now I'm the crazy weird girl.

[1199] Yeah.

[1200] We get back in the car because really there's not much.

[1201] other choice, right?

[1202] I guess there is, but at the time, there's not much other choice.

[1203] Yeah, I've had my little irrational moment of like, I'm going to die and then I've calmed down that I haven't died.

[1204] So we get back in the car, we start driving.

[1205] And he says, but you know what?

[1206] We're so close to Mel Gibson's house.

[1207] And my husband goes, no, mate, take us to the hotel.

[1208] And he says, but you can see the big cross from the passion of the Christ.

[1209] Apparently on his front lawn, there was a big giant cross.

[1210] Yeah, I think he even has his own church up there somewhere.

[1211] Yeah.

[1212] Something like that.

[1213] and he doesn't listen, he drives us all the way up there and then he says, okay, now we'll go to Hollywood.

[1214] I'm like, oh my God, thank God.

[1215] So we drive into Hollywood and then he fakes a phone call.

[1216] And no, it's fake.

[1217] The phone does not ring, it does not light up.

[1218] He just picks it up and he goes, hey, Michael.

[1219] And I think, oh my God, he thinks Michael's alive.

[1220] Oh, my God.

[1221] Oh, my God.

[1222] He goes, no problem, no problem.

[1223] I can drop that off.

[1224] Just one side of conversation we can hear.

[1225] There's no other voice coming through.

[1226] He hangs out and I go, So, was that Michael Jackson?

[1227] Just like testing the lunacy.

[1228] He goes, no, Michael Bolton.

[1229] So he's pulled in another 90s preference.

[1230] He and Kenny G are having breakfast and he needs his attache case.

[1231] He says, Michael Bolton, I drive for him sometimes.

[1232] He's left his passport in the car.

[1233] And he says, and you know what, I've just had a good idea.

[1234] We're not going to go to the hotel yet.

[1235] We're going to go to the Hollywood Cemetery where all the, stars are buried.

[1236] And you will be buried there too.

[1237] And I thought, this is maybe where we actually die.

[1238] At this point, my husband's getting quite agitated and he's like, just take us to the hotel.

[1239] He might have said a few other things as well, but he was just getting quite agitated.

[1240] I was so anxious.

[1241] And he says, but this is your only opportunity.

[1242] You're in Michael Jackson's car.

[1243] Only celebrity plates are allowed in that cemetery.

[1244] Oh, my God.

[1245] It's an invisible gate.

[1246] Invisible gate.

[1247] Yeah.

[1248] As you drive in, only if you have number plates, that a celebrity, you're allowed access.

[1249] We get to the cemetery.

[1250] We were just so over this, so tired, so hungry, so airplane, yucky, you know, just wanted to get out of the car.

[1251] I remember this.

[1252] My husband doesn't remember, but I remember him going, beep, beep.

[1253] Like, making a beep with his mouth, as if he was getting this special access.

[1254] No, no, no. It had scanned the plates and access was granted.

[1255] However, at this point, people are up and on their morning walks and stuff like that.

[1256] And there are other people around that cemetery.

[1257] And he's driving through.

[1258] And then he gets a bit disheartened because we're not amazed.

[1259] And we feel his mood shift.

[1260] And that's when I get a lot more anxious.

[1261] And so I flip into people pleaser.

[1262] Wow.

[1263] Oh, my gosh.

[1264] Is that Marilyn Monroe's feeling that I need to pick his spirits up in order for us to kind of get out of the situation.

[1265] Look, I know I'm one.

[1266] tracked mind.

[1267] Everything goes through my filter and I always think this, but I have to say, my guess is this guy was high when he got you and his high is starting to fade and he's turning agitated.

[1268] Because the whole thing feels very fucking druggy right up to this point.

[1269] And the fact that now he's turning feels right.

[1270] It feels more than druggy because of the like cutouts.

[1271] I feel like this more than just drugs.

[1272] Yes, agreed.

[1273] But the idea in his mind and he was able to sell it is so positive that we're going to Malibu, that we're going to Malibu.

[1274] That part is what feels very druggie.

[1275] Like, yeah, who gives us?

[1276] Let's go to Malibu.

[1277] Like, we're in this car.

[1278] Let's do this.

[1279] Maybe to your point, he's coming down or something.

[1280] And he says, fine.

[1281] Let's go to your hotel.

[1282] He pulls up by the standard.

[1283] He doesn't go all the way out.

[1284] And he just says, okay, guys, that's going to be $500.

[1285] Oh, my God.

[1286] That's pretty much all the cash that we have gotten out to have the first part of our trap.

[1287] My husband goes, for what?

[1288] And he says, I just gave you an exclusive tour.

[1289] You went to Malibu.

[1290] You went to Mel Gibson's.

[1291] You had the chance to see Suzanne Summers' house.

[1292] You went to have exclusive access to the Hollywood Cemetery.

[1293] And you're a Michael Jackson's car.

[1294] I've shown you my personal photographs of Michael Jackson.

[1295] This is a tour that not everyone can get.

[1296] And we pay him the money.

[1297] Yeah.

[1298] At that point, you're like, I'd pay a million dollars to be out of this situation.

[1299] Just to get out of the situation.

[1300] And he pulls out closer to the hotel at this point.

[1301] He unloads us all.

[1302] He like peels off.

[1303] We're left standing there with our bags.

[1304] Just sort of like, what happened?

[1305] This bell boy comes over like a real L .A. long hair.

[1306] Like, hey, wow, you came.

[1307] I think he called it a town car.

[1308] Are you in a town car?

[1309] Something like that.

[1310] And we tell him the story.

[1311] And he just goes, oh, dude, you should have got an Uber.

[1312] Oh, my God.

[1313] Thanks, bro.

[1314] I just was like, is this what America is now the whole trip.

[1315] We were so on guard.

[1316] We didn't really trust anyone.

[1317] We ubered everywhere.

[1318] We didn't get taxis.

[1319] We had to have it on the app.

[1320] In my hindsight, I wonder if he just really saw us coming.

[1321] He maybe does this hustle.

[1322] He believes that people will believe these are his personal photos.

[1323] He gets you a little bit scared enough that you're not going to really like fight up against him and then he gets a really good payday.

[1324] Or to your point, he was a bit high and thought this could be quite fun and he could make some money.

[1325] Well, I mean, the fact that he was kind of Hanging around the international terminal is a little telling that it's probably a scam.

[1326] I think it's a hustle that he does.

[1327] I mean, he has an escalate.

[1328] We lost Jessica.

[1329] Oh, no. I think I've lost you.

[1330] You get to say goodbye.

[1331] Boy, sad we lost Jessica right at the moment we were concluding, but we did get the entire story.

[1332] Oh, my God.

[1333] She started off by saying this isn't that bad, but just crazy.

[1334] But that is bad.

[1335] Yes, yes, yes.

[1336] Full -blown scammed.

[1337] Oh, man. I've been in many of those.

[1338] You have?

[1339] Yes, when you go downtown to buy drugs, you end up with people on weird trips and you're like, what is happening?

[1340] Why are we going to this house?

[1341] When is the person going to show up with this or that?

[1342] Yeah, I mean, that's a tricky thing because you know you're entering a situation where people don't have all their wits.

[1343] Yes.

[1344] But in general, if you ask anyone downtown at 3 a .m. for drugs, odds are they two are a drug addict.

[1345] So they're like, yeah, this is going to be my way of getting for.

[1346] free drugs.

[1347] And they're saying, yes, I know a guy, but they might really need to check four or five different places.

[1348] They're just as lost as you are.

[1349] Yeah.

[1350] I guess I mean, if you know you're in the drug game, I guess you know, you're expecting some, uh, craziness.

[1351] Yes, true, true.

[1352] But wow, but not her.

[1353] No, no. She's landed bright and early at LAX.

[1354] The hustle's one thing.

[1355] That feels kind of standard, to be honest, like getting this car, it's off the books.

[1356] It's the Michael Jackson.

[1357] Exactly.

[1358] It's the photo.

[1359] in the car, it's Suzanne Summer.

[1360] Well, it's one thing if they just drive you to the place and then say it's $500.

[1361] Because that's the normal scam.

[1362] But to take you all over the fucking city, say, beep, beep, you have special access to this invisible gate.

[1363] Yes, and then the cutouts.

[1364] There's almost like a weird, like, stalkery piece.

[1365] Like, maybe he does believe that he was friends with them.

[1366] Yeah.

[1367] Oh, boy.

[1368] I hope he's not operating a town car anymore.

[1369] Me too.

[1370] In L .A. Those were really good stories.

[1371] They really were.

[1372] On behalf of everyone here in this wonderful country, I love, the United States, we do apologize for these visits you four had.

[1373] But keep coming.

[1374] Keep on coming.

[1375] All right.

[1376] Love you.

[1377] Do you want to sing a tune or something?

[1378] I want to sing a tune or something?

[1379] Oh.

[1380] Okay, great.

[1381] We don't have a thing song for this new show, so here I go, go, go.

[1382] We're going to ask some random questions.

[1383] Getting with the help of our cherries, we'll get some suggestions.

[1384] On the flyer rhymed dish, on the flyer rhymed dish, enjoy.