#2185 - Bob Gymlan

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[4] Pleasure to meet you, man. Pleasure to meet you, too.

[5] How'd you start doing this YouTube channel?

[6] I've always enjoyed doing, talking about those things because who doesn't?

[7] Right.

[8] And I was always kind of surprised at how shitty.

[9] They're usually talked about.

[10] I just saw the shooting star.

[11] There it goes, yeah.

[12] It'll trick you.

[13] Like, so often you see this type of content is like, is there a monster in the woods?

[14] Right.

[15] And it's like, that's not the question.

[16] The question is more complex than that.

[17] And I often don't see it brought up that way.

[18] There's something about these.

[19] Like today, I listen to the creepiest Bigfoot story one.

[20] That one that you had with the one where the guy wrote in the story about.

[21] about the burying stuff in the backyard?

[22] Yeah, that one.

[23] And there's something about those that, like, even if you don't believe in Bigfoot, because I don't necessarily believe in Bigfoot, there's something about it that's so compelling.

[24] There's something about things that you don't know out there in the woods that know, because you don't have an accurate, a real good account of everything that's in the forest.

[25] Of course.

[26] You know, you look out there, it's dark, and the mind is always looking, for some weirdness.

[27] The mind is always looking for something that other people don't know about or perhaps there's like a secret that the sheriffs know about that they don't share with everybody else.

[28] Like, why is that so, why does that resonate so much with people with Stephen King movies, like, or Stephen King books?

[29] It's like that kind of a thing.

[30] There's something about it that's, like, exciting.

[31] Right.

[32] I'm more of a Dean Coons fan than Stephen King.

[33] Oh, okay.

[34] Yeah, he's great too.

[35] Yeah.

[36] You don't like Stephen King?

[37] You're trying to throw shade?

[38] his politics ruined it for me that's the problem right his problem is his Twitter feed his Twitter feed's fucking brutal it's like dude stop right that's nuts these are like the goofiest low testosterone boomer takes I've ever heard on anything like stop it's very true but he's such a brilliant writer I also think uh he's a different guy because the car accident I think that was a big one you know when you get hit by a van that'll do it yeah shit He was really, really fucked up from that.

[39] And I also think it's getting off Coke.

[40] Getting off Coke and booze?

[41] That was the real Stephen King.

[42] I mean, I hate to advocate alcoholism and cocaine use because I don't think either one of them is good for you.

[43] But goddamn, they're good for writing books.

[44] They're good for artistry, that's for sure.

[45] There's something about his early stuff when he was off the rails.

[46] Like he said he doesn't even remember writing Kujo.

[47] Doesn't even remember it.

[48] It's my favorite book of his.

[49] It's a fucking great book.

[50] It's a fucking great book.

[51] so is the shining you know it's another one where he was like deep in the throes of addiction and just writing this fucking captivating book it just what he captured is there's this part of our mind that maybe we don't talk about too much where we always wonder if everybody really knows what's going on and maybe something could happen that people didn't expect couldn't imagine is real and yet you're confronted by it, you know, and that's like a lot of his stories.

[52] And you do a really good job of finding that.

[53] Also, you have a creepy voice.

[54] No disrespect.

[55] I mean, in a good way.

[56] Like, the way you tell the stories, you know, like, it's just something about it.

[57] It's like you're doing radio, man. You're doing radio with illustrations, but you're doing it on YouTube.

[58] Right.

[59] Well, that's actually why I chose the name, Bob Gimlin, because I, You know, Bob Gimlin's obviously the guy who was there when the Patterson footage was shot.

[60] Right.

[61] And it has, so my Google account or my YouTube account name, way before I started the channel, was Bob Gimlin.

[62] Oh.

[63] And my real name is Brian Gagne.

[64] And all I used YouTube for was Bigfoot content and, like, watching Bob Dylan Rips.

[65] I'm a huge fan of Bob Dylan.

[66] Oh, cool.

[67] So I thought Bob Gimlin was a cool name.

[68] And it kind of evokes back to, like, just kind of Rod Serling.

[69] A little bit, just like a slower pace.

[70] Because so much of the content in that was just like top ten creepiest sightings.

[71] It's like whatever.

[72] It's like I like to be a little more immersed.

[73] Yes.

[74] You do it like radio.

[75] You do it like old school radio, like creepy radio.

[76] Yeah.

[77] Like when they used to tell stories unlike, you know, people would sit, you know, before there was a television, people would sit around the radio.

[78] And they would listen.

[79] Like, that's where war are the world.

[80] It's that famous thing with H .G. Wells where he had a bunch of, you know, bunch of people believing that we're actually being invaded by Martians.

[81] You flee your state.

[82] Yeah.

[83] Yeah.

[84] So when did you start this channel?

[85] I think like nine years ago, 2016 maybe.

[86] And was at the beginning?

[87] Was it Bigfoot?

[88] Yeah.

[89] Have you ever had an encounter?

[90] Or is it just something that's been fascinating to you?

[91] It's just always been interesting.

[92] But so I think my talent, and I'm not even saying I'm talented, but my, what I have going for me is I am so.

[93] ready to believe that everything we know is BS, like, people don't know anything.

[94] They just don't.

[95] I mean, people know stuff, but so much of what has been in history books is already wrong.

[96] You know, so, like, have you ever seen a chimpanzee?

[97] Yes.

[98] Like, would it surprise you to learn that, like, oh, there's a smarter one, there's a faster one, there's a bigger one.

[99] Like, if someone, if a Bigfoot got hit by a bus tomorrow, like, I wouldn't be surprised.

[100] You wouldn't be?

[101] No, I will, I mean, I, yes.

[102] I would be terribly surprised.

[103] Really?

[104] Yes, yeah, I don't know if they're real, but I think they might be real.

[105] This is what I think.

[106] I have a very strange take on this, and I know it's going to sound super stupid to anybody who's like cynical, pragmatist, but just bear with me for a moment.

[107] I think the boundaries between this dimension and other ones are permeable, and I have a feeling things can cross through them.

[108] And I have a feeling we are like if an ant is, like I have a leaf cutter ants in my yard, pretty wild.

[109] So cool to watch them.

[110] It sucks because they kill all your trees.

[111] But so cool to watch this long train of these incredible little beings carrying around these giant pieces of leaf that they cut off.

[112] And they're all going into their little house.

[113] But you wave your hand over them.

[114] They have no fucking idea you're there.

[115] Like whatever senses they have, it does.

[116] does not seem to detect threats from things above.

[117] They don't seem to be worried.

[118] Right.

[119] You know, they don't perceive us.

[120] Well, they're mission -oriented.

[121] Yeah.

[122] And we are, too.

[123] So if something is happening that's beyond our mission, I think it's hard to perceive it.

[124] I think there's things that exist that are not perceivable.

[125] Oh, I'm one million percent in that camp, too.

[126] And I think there's heightened states of consciousness that people achieve under duress, extreme stress, fear.

[127] I think that's one of the reasons why a lot of them happen at night time.

[128] I think nighttime, it automatically fills people with a certain sense of anxiety and fear because you don't know what's out there, especially in the woods at nighttime.

[129] And I think in those times when your mind reaches this unusual chemical state, you occasionally can access these other realities.

[130] And I think that's where Bigfoot is real.

[131] I know it sounds goofy.

[132] I mean, that's...

[133] And I don't think you can go find it.

[134] That's why finding Bigfoot is on like season 80, and they haven't found shit.

[135] Yeah, well...

[136] But see, even if it was real, that I wouldn't expect them to find it either.

[137] No, that shows just goofery.

[138] Or even if it was flesh and blood.

[139] It's funny, you would say what you said, because when I first started my channel, I was very flesh and blood type.

[140] I thought it was a very real thing, like just a bear or anything else in the woods.

[141] But a lot of commenters said, though I appreciate Bob.

[142] take on that he will get to the woo -woo side or the spiritual side and I was like I am not and I'm like halfway there already but I don't think that I don't think that the spiritualism can be separated from anything how so what do you mean by that I mean we're we're spiritual beings and I think that we're interacting with like the force from Star Wars like I I believe reality is permeable to an extent the things that we see with our eyes and feel with our that we touch it's more than that it's a fraction it's a fraction of what's going on I think so too I think you know I think that's that's probably the source of whatever psychic phenomenon that is real that's not bullshit and just a bunch of people a bunch of hucksters robbing people I think there's some I think there's some sort of telepathic connection that people share occasionally.

[143] And I think it's an emerging aspect of human consciousness that will probably one day be as normal as hearing.

[144] I think we're just emerging from the primal.

[145] And I think also in the primal, they probably have it.

[146] They probably have it in a different way.

[147] Like animals are tuned in in a very bizarre way.

[148] They just know things sometimes.

[149] and you don't know why they know things because you're not even saying like my dog sometimes knows one we're going to go for a run right I just knows it I've always been fascinated by how animals so many animals seem to innately know that we can help them and I they shouldn't think that historically we are not the helper of animals right and like you know be it dolphins or seals or whatever or deer even deer yeah they're just like I'm hurt help and it's like shouldn't they be afraid of the predator Deer have tried to contact people to get one of their friends free from barbed wire.

[150] Yeah.

[151] There's something weird.

[152] There's something weird going on that is not just as simple as we're the dominant species.

[153] We have language.

[154] We figured out consciousness.

[155] We write books.

[156] No, I think there's another thing that we just don't.

[157] It's not there yet.

[158] You know, it's just like the original cavemen had some grunts, and those grunts became words.

[159] and now those words become huge libraries filled with books that people have written.

[160] And I think that's what's going on with human consciousness.

[161] And I think there's just got to be some reason why this Bigfoot thing has been going on for so goddamn long.

[162] I think it's an interdimensional existence.

[163] I think whatever that thing is, I think it comes back and forth.

[164] And that's why I don't find anything.

[165] Yeah.

[166] I mean, that's, as I said, I'm getting there.

[167] you're getting there getting there yeah i mean because as i said earlier like to me the flesh and blood ape hypothesis is not as impractical as everyone says well it used to be a real thing for sure the problem is the size of it you know you can't really hide a 10 foot gorilla why why because too many trail cams too many campers hikers hunters especially especially um well it's not like people don't see it people see it yeah hunters don't see them no no no but And my friends, I have a lot of friends that are like long -range backpack hunters.

[168] These guys would go 26, 27 miles into the forest with no access roads.

[169] They just hike out.

[170] But do hunters not see them or do hunters not say they saw it?

[171] No, I don't know.

[172] Anybody who's seen them.

[173] They'll tell you all kinds of other wild shit.

[174] But they would tell you if they saw it.

[175] None of them are, none of them believe that I'd know.

[176] But they are wary about animals.

[177] You know, there's real threats out there.

[178] there.

[179] There's grislies.

[180] There's wolves.

[181] There's mountain lions.

[182] Those are the things they're really worried about.

[183] And those are the things that they see.

[184] And I, you know, I've had friends that have had encounters with them.

[185] And even those encounters seem in some sort of weird way, spiritual.

[186] Like there's a weird connection with these predators and prey.

[187] I think opens up a part of us that we don't ever experience.

[188] You don't ever experience a thing that wants to eat you.

[189] And when you do, I think your biology is like, oh, you're remember this?

[190] And like a switch gets turned on and these genes that we've had inside of our body for hundreds of thousands of years of us running away from predators, they get ignited.

[191] And there's this bizarre connection.

[192] Have you ever looked in the eyes of a predator?

[193] I sure have.

[194] What have you seen?

[195] I worked at a zoo, Brookfield Zoo in Chicago for quite a few years.

[196] And so just this Christmas we went there and the lion was roaring going nuts and I have footage of this I can actually show you later but it was very close and it was roaring and it looked like it was going to pounce and I had no faith that that little barrier was enough and I've literally worked at the place and I know like there are fail safes and stuff that they can't get out but I was just like nope this is nuts because you know I love cats, big cats too and like do you have a cat I don't anymore but I've had cats Okay, like just watching them and now imagining that they are bigger than you.

[197] Oh, dude.

[198] It's so horrifying.

[199] I saw my first large mountain line two years ago.

[200] Oh, yeah?

[201] It was big, like about 170 plus pounds.

[202] And my friend Colton saw it under a tree.

[203] We were driving, luckily.

[204] We were inside the truck because it was only about 30 yards away.

[205] I would have shit my pants.

[206] If I saw this thing without a barrier between us, it was so big.

[207] It was so big and so terrible.

[208] It looked like a demon.

[209] Like when you lock eyes with that thing And again, I'm looking at it through a windshield And also binoculars So I had 10 power binoculars And I'm zoomed into its face And I'm seeing it like just looking right at me With this pumpkin head This big mandible muscles That go over the top of the skull It's like, oh Christ And again, I'm looking at it through a windshield And binoculars So I'm removed slightly From the actual force of the experience Of its eyeballs on me But if I was standing there just looking at it.

[210] I probably would have had a psychedelic experience.

[211] I probably would have tripped out.

[212] I probably would have gotten into shock.

[213] I saw a grizzly bear once in Alberta.

[214] I saw one of those, and not even a big one, about a six -foot grizzly bear.

[215] But it looks at you, I've seen black bears before.

[216] That was the first grizzly I saw in the wild, and they look right through you.

[217] Yeah, to me, I've only seen footage of grizzly bears, but every once in a while they have like this crackhead look where it's like they're doing that thing where they're looking to see what you got yeah like they're just like what can I take from this and that you can't do anything to stop them unless you have a gun yeah we had guns luckily we had shotguns but we when we were looking at it it looked like it's going to eat you it looks like am I going to eat you like it looked like couldn't care less if you live or die right like just all it's doing all day long is searching for something slow something with a limp something that fucks up something that leaves behind a kid something that you know dogs chained up to a tree whoops got one right and that's all it's doing all day long and it's just a big monster and if it didn't exist if a grizzly bear didn't exist and there was reports of this enormous dog -like creature that eats everything and can kill a moose and lives in the woods it would be way scarier than bigfoot yeah for sure well maybe oh Maybe not.

[218] A Codiak?

[219] Yeah, but...

[220] Codiac bear would be scarier than Bigfoot.

[221] Worse things can happen than be eaten.

[222] Oh, like the Come for Me Bigfoot books?

[223] Do you know about those books?

[224] No. Well, I...

[225] Yeah, obviously I've heard of them.

[226] There's a whole genre of erotica written about Bigfoot.

[227] Yeah, that's not my thing.

[228] Well, you're a man. It seems to be ladies like the...

[229] They like their stuff in writing.

[230] That's what they like.

[231] They like reading their pornography.

[232] Yeah, they also like monsters.

[233] Yes, yeah.

[234] Werewolves and vampires.

[235] Vampires.

[236] They like vampires that fall in love with them.

[237] Right.

[238] Yeah, he's going to eat everybody else, so not me. But you can change them.

[239] Yeah, he can change them.

[240] That's also why some crazy ladies like serial killers.

[241] Oh, yeah.

[242] Even serial killers that kill a bunch of women, they write to them.

[243] Like Richard Ramirez, the Nightstocker.

[244] Like, tons of women were writing to him in jail.

[245] Ted Bundy, too.

[246] Mm -hmm.

[247] Yeah.

[248] Strange.

[249] I'm a big fan of true crime, so I, you know, I don't, I'm not sexually aroused by it.

[250] Well, congratulations.

[251] That's a good thing.

[252] That is a very good thing.

[253] Yeah.

[254] But there, the thing about predators versus, like, Bigfoot or any of these things, like, there seems to be, the unknown animals, for whatever reason, are the ones that are most perplexing to us, the ones we're most fascinated by.

[255] Like, an orca, I think, is more fascinating than Bigfoot.

[256] Like, if Bigfoot was just gigantopithecus, it was just an enormous orangutan -looking creature that lived in the woods and was omnivorous and ate a bunch of stuff and tried to hide from people, it'd be kind of cool, but it wouldn't really be as cool as this insanely intelligent super dolphin that lives in the ocean and, you know, has this strong family bond and, you know...

[257] Teach their different styles of dispatching prey.

[258] Uh -huh.

[259] Yeah, teach them how.

[260] how to knock over ice shelves to get a seal to slide off.

[261] That seal footage is so tragic where it's waving it down.

[262] Yeah, it sucks for the seal.

[263] You're rooting for the seal, but...

[264] You're rooting for him, but you know he's doomed.

[265] I keep wondering, because you know how orcas are going after boats now?

[266] Yeah.

[267] None of them have, of the people that I'm aware of have successfully gotten in the water.

[268] So I keep wondering what they would do to the people.

[269] I don't think there's any record of them killing human beings other than human beings in, like, sea world.

[270] stuff like that but that's just would there be a record or it's a good question um there would if there were survivors and there's a lot of record of shark attacks obviously well those are don't listen i don't give any mind to those uh the records of shark attacks do you know well it is so hard to report a shark attack so like if i go swimming right and i leave my stuff on the beach and i someone calls the police they don't i didn't come home or whatever right and they find me mangled on the beach the next day, I had a cardiac event and then was scavenged by sharks.

[271] You think so?

[272] I'm positive.

[273] That's how the ISAF International Shark Attack File, it's very difficult for a shark attack victim to be reported.

[274] That's interesting.

[275] Do you think they do that so that they discourage people becoming vigilantes and going out and killing sharks?

[276] They're trying to make it seem like, I think it's legit, like a Jaws thing.

[277] They don't want to make it seem dangerous.

[278] Right.

[279] They don't want to make it seem like it's a bad place for tourists.

[280] Right.

[281] I would not go into the ocean where there are sharks.

[282] And I know that sounds nuts, but I wouldn't.

[283] It's not worth it.

[284] My buddy Duncan was in Hawaii, either just after I can't remember or just before a guy got killed by shark at the same resort that he was at.

[285] Some guy was swimming at a tiger sharks just took him out.

[286] No. I'm actually working on a shark attack video now.

[287] There's a lot of untrue.

[288] people talk about with sharks, I think, or maybe misunderstandings.

[289] They just caught a bull shark in Texas and a river.

[290] Yeah.

[291] They were real recently.

[292] And those are the scary ones.

[293] They are.

[294] Those fuckers are super aggressive and they go into freshwater all the way up to Illinois.

[295] They found them in Illinois.

[296] Alton, yeah.

[297] So you're deep in this.

[298] So you think it's a Jaws thing.

[299] So they're just trying to not...

[300] What do you think ever happen with that Egyptian one?

[301] The Egyptian one's the craziest one.

[302] Do you ever see that footage?

[303] The guy's, like, screaming for his father.

[304] Yeah.

[305] Oh, that's brutal.

[306] Well, because, so, again, did you know that the shark that did that, like, paraded the head around?

[307] Yeah, like, and so that's one of the things that I said is misinformation.

[308] I hate that I'm using that word.

[309] Yeah, that word's been tainted.

[310] Yeah, the words been tainted.

[311] But, um, so they say it's, like, mistaken identity or, like, sharks attack because they're pissed.

[312] That's why they attack?

[313] Yes.

[314] They're not just hungry?

[315] Correct.

[316] I mean, I can't be certain, but that would be my opinion.

[317] Because do you remember, like, when we were, or I remember when I was a kid, I saw all these shark documentaries that they would show like the surfer and then a sea turtle or a seal side by side.

[318] Like from the bottom, these are, they don't look the same at all.

[319] No. And sharks are one big sensory organ.

[320] They know, and like, you know, where they hang out, they hang out at the bottom.

[321] They can, and then there's silhouetted by light from the top.

[322] They can see perfectly.

[323] They're in the water all their lives.

[324] They're one big sensory organ.

[325] They know what they're attacking.

[326] And I think they want people out of their water.

[327] Because that wasn't even a consumption with that guy.

[328] With the guy who was yelling Papa.

[329] Yeah.

[330] Whatever his name was.

[331] While a stand by me was playing in the background.

[332] And that woman, oh, my God.

[333] Oh, my God.

[334] It seems like a movie.

[335] Yeah.

[336] It does.

[337] And then, yeah, because, you know the part where it turns him underwater and his legs go up?

[338] Yeah.

[339] It took off his jaw.

[340] Because after that, he's, he's.

[341] He's gargling it.

[342] Oh.

[343] Yeah.

[344] And, uh...

[345] Popov's body was reportedly examined by forensic experts at a morgan Hergata who claimed he was disfigured and with many parts missing.

[346] The shark said to have torn his head off, disfigured his face and separated body parts that were retrieved from the sea.

[347] It's also reported the beast ripped apart his chest and eight parts of his abdomen and hands.

[348] See, that's not an attempt to predate in my opinion.

[349] Interesting.

[350] So you think that people get in the way of fish and seals and that's probably what the sharks actually want to eat and they, like, these assholes are flopping around and farting in the water and...

[351] Or she just had pops nearby?

[352] There's anything like that.

[353] There was also the story that I read about that particular attack where they were saying that some ranchers had dumped sheep carcasses.

[354] Did you hear about that?

[355] Yeah.

[356] I still don't think.

[357] think that that sharks know what they're biting because if a shark bite something hard it really damages them they know what they bite before they bite it and I I agree that sharks don't see us as food that we sometimes they do if they're desperate but I do not I think we're far for my deal because if they did eat us they would eat us all the time right all the time yeah so I think because like you know how great whites in California don't eat people right they only attack people because we're literally in the surf where seals like to be so we're in the way right and they know that seals probably don't like to play around where surfers are so they're like oh these things are here and i'm hungry if these things are gone and they know that if they come up and mangle someone the rest of people are going to be gone right it'll clear the area for a while right is this your own personal theory oh no um there's an amazing channel called sharks happen and it's so funny too because the guy he's not a marine biologist or anything his name is just Hal he's a machinist in Michigan and it's so funny because I fundamentally think he knows more about sharks than anyone that I've listened to and I think it's funny how some guy in Michigan is the expert that is funny no yeah like how are you getting your information bro he's good at he goes back on newspapers because you know to him all the marine biologists are just so full of it and And there is some of that.

[358] There really is.

[359] Because they will skew something so far to not blame the sharks.

[360] Really?

[361] Yeah.

[362] Like this kid, probably like 20 years ago now, had his leg ripped off by a bull shark, which is terrifying to think because it, like, clamped onto his calf, and then it in shallow water, and his leg came off not where it was bit.

[363] So it, like, ripped it off.

[364] Oh.

[365] And I can't recall his name, but that was not in the shark stats.

[366] as, that was in the shark stats as provoked because the kid was fishing earlier.

[367] Oh.

[368] So it's like, that's a provoked attack.

[369] It's like, so fishing is a provoked attack?

[370] Being in like a seven -year -old in knee -deep water after someone was fishing is a provoked attack.

[371] And that's not in the stats the same way.

[372] So like that's not in a shark attack thing.

[373] Oh, interesting.

[374] So there's shark attacks where there's no possible evidence of provocation.

[375] And then there's provoke shark attacks like, oh, you were asking for it?

[376] Correct.

[377] Wow.

[378] And that's the video I'm working on.

[379] I go through all the attacks in 2015, and I say like, okay, these are, I think it was like, I hope I'm not wrong about this, but like 11 or 12 attacks that they say are legit attacks because they were unprovoked.

[380] They were like random attacks.

[381] But then I talk about the other like 20 that were provoked attacks.

[382] And so when you see shark attack statistics, they only say unprovoked attacks?

[383] Correct.

[384] So they're trying to downplay a shark attack.

[385] And as I said, there are so many people who, like, just get found bitten up and, like, oh, they drowned.

[386] And they got scavenged because sharks are scavengers and sharks don't eat people.

[387] That's so crazy.

[388] Yeah.

[389] That's interesting.

[390] I never really thought about that.

[391] Yeah.

[392] The attacks are very skewed.

[393] It's very fascinating to me how our attitude about sharks changed with the whole shark fin soup thing.

[394] Like, all of a sudden, everybody wanted to protect sharks.

[395] Like, you shouldn't fish for sharks.

[396] Like, you shouldn't eat sharks because, you know, Maco sharks.

[397] has always been served in restaurants.

[398] I've had Mako shark a bunch times in restaurants.

[399] It's very good.

[400] It tastes like swordfish.

[401] But suddenly sharks were supposed to be protected.

[402] Like, Jesus, shouldn't we protect the fucking tuna?

[403] Like tuna delicious.

[404] They don't kill you.

[405] They're majestic, amazing creatures, and we've killed like 90 % of them in the ocean.

[406] No. I mean, fuck sharks.

[407] That's what I think.

[408] I mean, I love sharks.

[409] Me too, but fuck them.

[410] Yeah, I mean, they're assholes.

[411] Yeah, they can go fuck off.

[412] um there's an area in key west where uh people fish off the piers where you have to pull in your fish so fast because the waters are infested with sharks well that's a whole problem now with sharks because they're learning it's easier to pull it off our hooks yeah yeah makes sense sure they so they hang around piers for people to fish and then when someone catches a big one and it takes a while to get in like oh here we go dun dun dun dun dun dun dun it's uh there's an incredible video of uh this guy is pulling in a tuna and as he's pulling in a tuna this great white cuts the tuna in half have you seen that i have seen that have you know there have been people swallowed alive by great white sharks jeez no look they're they're real and if they weren't they would be the craziest monster ever we have this very bizarre thing with the human mind where we become accustomed to things you know we're accustomed to cell phones show cell phone to a guy in 1400s he thinks you're a wizard, you know?

[413] And we tell us, it's like, oh, that one sucks.

[414] You got a small phone.

[415] But there's something bizarre where we get accustomed to these insane creatures, like sharks.

[416] I often think that, because, you know, there are so many creatures right now that I would give anything to be able to see that are, you know, that are extinct.

[417] But there are probably so many alive right now that if they were extinct, I would wish I could see them.

[418] But I take them for granted that they're not extinct.

[419] Oh, yeah, for sure.

[420] The giraffe, I think, is one of them.

[421] Right.

[422] If I saw a giraffe, or like the fossil or skeleton of one, I'd be like, I wonder what that thing looked like.

[423] Well, I found out about your page because I saw the video about the 50 -foot crocodile in the Congo.

[424] And as a person who's, I've always been obsessed with crocodiles.

[425] I think they're, you know, one of the coolest animals that ever has existed and the fact that they're with us right now.

[426] and you get to see this insane creature that can go without eating for a year lays completely still in six inches of water and then explodes and pulls a zebra into the water they're just amazing they're amazing and they're so fucking big man there's so like that alligator that we have out there that you saw in the lobby that's 14 feet yeah that's not even a big alligator I mean it's a big alligator but it's not a big crocodile it's a little baby crocodile it's not a huge alligator no No. No, like, what is the biggest alligator there ever?

[427] I think it's 20 feet, right?

[428] 19 feet, 9 inches.

[429] Ah, okay.

[430] Is that a Florida alligator?

[431] I want to say it was Alabama.

[432] Really?

[433] No shit.

[434] Alabama, that's interesting.

[435] Yeah, like, it's all up in that whole area.

[436] Like Louisiana has a bunch of them.

[437] Texas has a bunch of northern Texas.

[438] It started to show alligators.

[439] There was a sighting yesterday, actually.

[440] There was a video that these guys took of these two alligators swimming in a lake.

[441] in northern Texas people are like what the fuck are they doing up here they're expanding when i was a kid i lived in gainsville florida from when i was 11 until i was 13 and uh gainsville had a lot of alligators uh it's like where the university of florida is and uh there's a place called um kind of what is it called lake alice i think it is and that's where the alligators used to be and i remember when i was there this lady she got her her little dog got eaten she's walking her little dog by the water and just jumped out of the water and snashed her dog and everybody was freaked out like what the fuck it ate her dog have you seen that footage of the alligator that grabs that woman's dog and then she tries to go on after it and it gives up the dog and takes her yeah that's pretty brutal very brutal yeah they target people yeah they don't target people as much as crocodiles do but they definitely do they eat people and they're everywhere no there's there's so many of them in florida they're just infested and they were protected when I was a kid.

[442] I know.

[443] There's this great clip I found a long time ago online about it's like from the 70s and it's this woman talking about like how this might be the last alligator we ever see because like they're trying to make it seem so endangered and it's like I don't think so.

[444] They thought they were and I wonder why.

[445] I wonder why they thought they were and I wonder what kind of an accurate accounting of the animals in the Everglades they had.

[446] I don't think we could.

[447] I mean with poison we probably could but I don't think there's any feasible way to exterminate alligators even if we tried which we weren't well certainly not now um i wonder if maybe the ecosystem was better in check before people came along like you know when you think about florida so right florida i think was the first ever city in the country is that correct i believe it's st augustine maybe yeah i think you're right so that's where you know that's where uh laba cabesa da vaca landed he landed in florida right was when he made his track across the country and so it's a long i mean there's hundreds of years of people live in there but cities don't really emerge like that kind of florida life when is that like when is miami emerge you know when is uh when when do when do when do you start seeing cities like the early 1900s what i mean no it's got to be earlier than that earlier than that, yeah.

[448] Well, it depends.

[449] I mean, modern.

[450] Right, but what does it look like?

[451] You know what I'm saying?

[452] Like, when does it start fucking with the habitat of the alligators?

[453] Because a lot of Miami, they actually filled in.

[454] Right.

[455] They got to drain the swamps.

[456] Right.

[457] Legitimately.

[458] And they had to, I don't know how the fuck they even did it, but that's the real concern about if the ocean level rises, like a lot of stuff super porous.

[459] It's just going to flood all that area.

[460] Yeah.

[461] But I wonder, like, how much of an impact.

[462] human beings had like maybe there was the Florida panther there was a lot of and then also back then there was no snakes right so right now not no snakes but no pythons burmese pythons which are invasive species that apparently there's two sources one of them is pets and the other one was there was a research center that got hit by a storm and they lost a bunch of pythons which is kind of hilarious and also nile crocodiles there's nile crocodiles in the ever Really?

[463] I didn't know that.

[464] Yeah, there's a breeding population, they'd think.

[465] Wow.

[466] They think they, well, they've already found several, and they have shoot -on -site orders for Nile Crocodiles.

[467] Sure.

[468] I've seen reports online, but unreliable, guys saying, really, they took her cattle.

[469] They're stealing cows.

[470] Yeah.

[471] I don't know if that's true, like a 16 -foot Nile crocodile stealing cattle.

[472] Could.

[473] It could.

[474] Certainly could.

[475] But I don't know if they ever got to be that big.

[476] And I do know that two that they captured shared the same genetics.

[477] So they were from very close genetic line, so they think they were related.

[478] Which is the first number I could find about extinction.

[479] Serious threat.

[480] Oh, come on.

[481] 100 ,000.

[482] Endiquin disrupting pesticides like DDT.

[483] That kind of makes sense.

[484] The other thing I read was more about hunting for leather.

[485] Okay.

[486] Yeah.

[487] It's up to 5 million now.

[488] Oh, that's so crazy.

[489] Five million.

[490] They say if there is a pond in full.

[491] Florida, there is likely an alligator in the pond.

[492] Likely.

[493] More likely than not.

[494] There's a giant reptile that's swimming around in the bottom of that thing and occasionally poking its eyeballs up and then dropping back down.

[495] Yeah.

[496] There is now, because of the pythons, 90 plus percent of all mammals in the Everglades are missing.

[497] Really?

[498] Yeah.

[499] Find out what the actual number is.

[500] I think it's higher than 90%.

[501] I think it might be 99%.

[502] like the sightings and the accounts of animals and the record of animals and when they when wildlife biologists go do a account and they try to like get an accurate assessment of like what the population numbers are it's down in some preposterous number and then snakes are everywhere it's the number one place for burmese pythons on earth yeah well invasive species have such an advantage because no one knows how to deal with them yeah and these fuckers are huge and you see how they're eating alligators now too yes I mean that would make sense but I'm sure plenty of them are getting eaten too 90 % decline of animals in the area due to pythons wow nuts um yeah they're eating alligators just like a famous photograph of an alligator that's inside a python's body and it burst yeah I have burst out yeah isn't that a cayman though uh do not know are there camans in um the Everglades no I'm I think just the picture I'm thinking of no there aren't but there's a picture I'm thinking.

[503] There might be actually Cayman, even though they're South American.

[504] Some asshole might have let them go.

[505] I should have said that to me. Not to you, the picture I was thinking of is a Kaman that busted out of an anaconda.

[506] Oh, okay.

[507] Yeah, I'm sure that happens, too.

[508] I think this one is different.

[509] This is in the Everglades, and it's a python and a smaller alligator.

[510] I think it's like, yeah, there it is.

[511] Oh, no, that's the one I was thinking of.

[512] There's a couple different ones, unless they're all the same.

[513] Oh, yeah, I'm sure there's a bunch.

[514] There's one up top that's eaten one.

[515] look at that one the one the image oh that's an alligator eating a python so they eat each other depending on who's bigger circle of life yeah depending on who's bigger jesus christ just the idea that that thing could swallow a fucking alligator so busy just so bizarre yeah that's another animal that if it didn't exist like a crocodile if it didn't exist you'd be like there's what what are you talking about like that's there's a 50 -foot giant reptile that's hiding in the water.

[516] And if you go out there, I eat you.

[517] So I'm also a dinosaur nerd.

[518] Mm. And are you familiar with the updated Ketsako 'uadl?

[519] No. So they found this trackway of now we know that they were competent quadrupeds.

[520] But this trackway, abruptly.

[521] So Kwezokwato was a real thing?

[522] The giant terosaurs.

[523] Kwezokwato is the Aztec god.

[524] You know, it's the wing serpent?

[525] I think that that's where they named the flying reptile off.

[526] Oh, okay.

[527] I didn't even know that there was an actual dinosaur named Quetzalquodal.

[528] Well, now you're making me nervous.

[529] Well, we don't know.

[530] The good thing is we have Jamie.

[531] I'm no expert.

[532] But I remember Quetzalquadal was this insane Aztec serpent.

[533] Okay, here it is.

[534] Look at that thing.

[535] So it's a winged reptile -like bird.

[536] But they found this trackway that, suddenly became much longer stride, which means it started sprinting.

[537] And if you look up Ketzel -Kuadl compared to a giraffe, they were like sprinting around.

[538] So they thought forever that they had to jump off something to make flight.

[539] But now we know that they were able to go fast enough to make their own flight.

[540] So this thing is, they're as big as giraffes.

[541] There's as big as giraffes they can fly and they're predatory.

[542] And it's believed that they're probably the only thing around that would have given Tyrannosaurus rex paws Whoa In a fight T -Rex could obviously win But imagine being able to sprint Because that spear would do some damage Wow Wow I didn't know that they called them Quetzal -coatl Wingspan of 40 feet Yeah quetzal coales The largest known animal To take this guy Few fossilized But known from only a few fossilized bones From West Texas Just how How such a massive animal got airborne has been mostly a matter of speculation, something it rocked forward on its wing tips like a vampire bat, or that it built up speed by running and flapping like an albatross, or that it didn't fly at all, but according to new research, the mammoth creature probably leaped jumping at least eight feet into the air before lifting off by sweeping its wings.

[543] Whoa.

[544] Yeah, so imagine like you're driving at that thing in a car, it could take off before you hit it, you know, I don't know.

[545] It's just nuts.

[546] Like, I'm sure you know about terror birds of course yes those are here yeah right and don't didn't they exist like what was the most recent when did how long ago did terror birds exist they existed with people no I don't think so no no I don't believe so I believe they were like I think it's millions yeah right now it says didn't exist with people last sets of terror birds extinct over 10 ,000 years ago oh possible for that one but this says there's no way humans could have ever met the terror birds.

[547] Why is that?

[548] Yeah.

[549] If it's 10 ,000 years ago, how could they say that?

[550] This is the research regarding the possibility of humans living aside them says that there are no way.

[551] So I don't know.

[552] Oh, I don't believe that.

[553] A researcher said it.

[554] Yeah, you don't know it, bitch.

[555] There's no way you know what happened 10 ,000 years ago.

[556] If they live 10 ,000 years ago and we live 10 ,000 years ago, it's open to speculation.

[557] For sure.

[558] It's open.

[559] This one says between 53 million and 18 ,000 years ago.

[560] Oh, how weird.

[561] What a fucking window?

[562] They're like, they don't know.

[563] Hey, man, you guys need to do some more work.

[564] Don't be making me fucking look stupid from a Google search.

[565] That's crazy.

[566] That's such a wide stretch.

[567] $53 million to $18 ,000?

[568] Well, if it is $18 ,000, people were here.

[569] For sure.

[570] They found footprints that are, I think, they're in the 22 ,000 years range.

[571] Yeah, I thought it went up even more recently than that.

[572] I think you're right.

[573] Yeah, I think you're right.

[574] And this is, like, what's thrown that Clovis first.

[575] hypothesis into a sort of a tailspin.

[576] Yeah, I suspect that there was a lot more civilization than we know about going on in North America, particularly, but everywhere else too.

[577] I think you're right.

[578] I think you're definitely right.

[579] And I think a lot of Native American people take offense to the Bering Strait hypothesis, you know, that people all came over here from Asia into the North American landmass through the Bering Land Bridge.

[580] a lot of Native Americans say that's a crock of shit Really?

[581] Yeah, they think that people were always here That think people had come from South America They existed in South America before They made it up through here The people lived here And that we really don't have an accurate account Like to say that I think the idea behind it is Native Americans If they really did come from Asia Well, they're just immigrants too Right and what they're saying is There's no real evidence of that And, in fact, the evidence of human beings being here is so far back before that, before even the Ice Age, that, and this is pretty clear with the footprints that they found, that there's other explanations to how humans got here.

[582] And perhaps, even though the problem is there's no other primates here, right?

[583] Like North America.

[584] Yeah, the humans didn't, as far as I know.

[585] Didn't evolve here.

[586] No. Right.

[587] Wasn't it only the caucuses in Africa, I believe?

[588] Mm -hmm.

[589] Yeah.

[590] And then also primates in South America.

[591] That gets weird because you have different monkeys.

[592] That's a big mystery in my opinion.

[593] Yeah.

[594] I mean, right now the best hypothesis is that primates came over on floating vegetation.

[595] What?

[596] Well, it made, so the distance was less, but not by a lot.

[597] Oh, so this is Pangae at times?

[598] No. I mean, there's still continents, but it was.

[599] But I mean, as it's like separating?

[600] Correct.

[601] And I don't know.

[602] That seems weird to me. How many monkeys are going to get on a raft?

[603] I mean, like if there's a hurricane and it's a bunch of them.

[604] But how many?

[605] How?

[606] Yeah.

[607] That would be nuts.

[608] That's crazy.

[609] I think North America only has one primate that was not believed to be invasive, which was Smilodectis, I think.

[610] So all the primates in South America are believed to be invasive?

[611] Well, I mean, depends on how you define invasive, but from the old world is what they're called.

[612] Old world versus New World Monkeys.

[613] Wow.

[614] there's so many mysteries right there's so many mysteries with the with human beings like when they settled here of you are you aware of uh there's a guy who's done a lot of research on that wall in montana do you know that wall in montana so there's a there's an ancient wall in montana that some people have tried to say is a natural rock formation and almost anybody looks at it goes you're out of your fucking mind.

[615] That's 100 % placed in stack stones.

[616] But the problem is, this ancient wall, look at that.

[617] I mean, shut the fuck up.

[618] How is that?

[619] Oh, yeah.

[620] Just shut the fuck up.

[621] Can I see the other, the original picture, Jamie?

[622] That one were, yeah.

[623] I mean, shut the fuck up.

[624] Someone stacked that, for sure.

[625] It's in a straight line.

[626] They're stacked on top of each other.

[627] They form fit together.

[628] They're placed the same height.

[629] They're carved and transported.

[630] Yeah, something was going on, right?

[631] So some ancient, ancient civilization had this, and I think it's several football fields long.

[632] I think it's really long.

[633] Like, I think what they've discovered versus how much more of it could be, because also a lot of it is covered in dirt.

[634] And if this thing is, you know, 25, 30 ,000 years old, who knows how long it is, how long it's been there.

[635] Like, who knows how deep it even goes?

[636] the sage wall that's what it is so what is that all about that was on private land and apparently originally it was covered in trees and they cleared the area and so initially people were thinking that it was some sort of a natural formation but as they cleared the area they're like wait a minute what is this so no explanation no civilization tied to that area especially one that's capable of moving monolithic stones In 1996, they found it.

[637] While hiking around the property one day, we discovered the sage wall.

[638] The wall is 275 feet long and 24 feet high, a jaw -dropping marvel.

[639] In order to make these boulder areas more accessible and highlight their beauty, we created a moderate two -mile trail system.

[640] Additional features of the trail include 400 -year -old Douglas fir trees, the spectacular views of the Ruby Valley 20 miles away, and the Highland Mountain Range sitting at 10 ,000.

[641] feet in elevation so this is it this is like high elevation covered in trees on a piece of private land that these people just hadn't noticed that they had this thing on there you know it's probably some massive ranch right in montana and then like okay what's what's this no explanations no one knows what it is and i love how people try to write things like that off oh that's just a natural formation well fuck you it is right you know it's not i know you don't have an explanation and this throws your whole understanding of human civilization in North America into the garbage pin.

[642] It really does throw it in the garbage bin because, like, what happened?

[643] What was going on there?

[644] What was his Vikings?

[645] Who fucking did this?

[646] Who did it and when?

[647] Well, I think a lot of people make the mistake of thinking of Native Americans as, like, one group.

[648] Right.

[649] Like people, I'm sure different groups came over many times and probably a lot longer than 20 ,000 years ago.

[650] They were before 20 ,000 years ago.

[651] Well, we're not exactly sure when people started traveling across the ocean.

[652] Like when did the Polynesians make it to Hawaii?

[653] I don't know.

[654] We really don't know.

[655] It's just guessing.

[656] You know, it's kind of guessing.

[657] What is the, do they have any sort of carbon dating on any of the material that's related to that stone wall where they have some sort of a rough estimation of its construction time?

[658] But, you know, just that one of the things that's interesting about the Bigfoot thing is that for whatever reason, Native American, tribes don't have a bunch of fake animals right they don't have a bunch of you know they don't have dragons and warwolves and shit but they do have bigfoot in not just one tribe but many many many tribes has a story of this this sort of man that lives in the woods right which makes you wonder it sure does yeah that like i said there's excuse me there's way too much going on here that to me Because it's so easy to laugh at.

[659] Like, how long have we been here, Europeans, you know?

[660] Right.

[661] And how long have we had the equipment to even find it?

[662] And I do think that if it is real, which is a big if, I do think it's being suppressed.

[663] Really?

[664] I do.

[665] So the government's hiding Bigfoot?

[666] Yeah.

[667] Really?

[668] Would that surprise you?

[669] Yeah.

[670] It would?

[671] Yeah, I think they're too stupid to hide Bigfoot.

[672] They're too stupid to do it well, which is why so many people believe in Bigfoot.

[673] Why would the government hide Bigfoot?

[674] What would be the motivation?

[675] If you were the government and you found Bigfoot and you know what?

[676] We've got to keep this from people.

[677] I think there might be something about them that, well, for the same reason, I think the wall is collapsing with UFO disclosure.

[678] I think people only recently are starting to believe that people can handle things.

[679] or the government is only recently starting to believe that people can handle things.

[680] That's why you think UFO disclosure is going on?

[681] Well, that and they can't contain it anymore.

[682] I don't share that opinion.

[683] Really?

[684] Yeah, I think they're covering for some very sophisticated drone technology.

[685] That's what I think.

[686] Oh, really?

[687] Yeah.

[688] Well, that's boring.

[689] Maybe.

[690] But I think it doesn't exclude UFOs.

[691] No. This is my perspective.

[692] This is, and again, I'm not married to this at all.

[693] This is just something that I have in my head.

[694] But I believe that human beings right now are capable of propulsions.

[695] I think we have drones that operate on a completely different propulsion system than standard, you know, rocket fuel, push, you know, fire pushes out the back and the thing goes forward very fast, like a jet engine.

[696] Bablazar shit?

[697] Yeah, Bobliz our shit.

[698] Exactly.

[699] I think they have that.

[700] out a way to engineer that.

[701] The question is where they get it, right?

[702] And that's where I think UFO's coming to play.

[703] So, like, you think that what was seen by the Nimitz is all ours?

[704] It could be, because it's where it would be.

[705] But then why would they disclose themselves?

[706] Well, I think they found it, and they reported it, and they did what they had to do.

[707] And they didn't really talk about it publicly for many years later.

[708] You know, there wasn't a big news story.

[709] I mean, when they, Commander David Fravor, when I spoke to him, and it was a, first of all, the guy is as rock solid a military man as you're ever going to talk to.

[710] Sure.

[711] Just buy the book, disciplined fighter pilot.

[712] Those guys are like detail oriented.

[713] They don't fuck around.

[714] This guy's not making up stories about other shit.

[715] And when he describes this thing and what they saw and then there's multiple pilots that see it.

[716] is a visual.

[717] They have video of this thing moving off at the same rate of speed.

[718] They have radar imagery that shows it goes from above 50 ,000 feet above sea level to like 50 in a second.

[719] They don't know how the fuck it did it.

[720] It goes to their cat point.

[721] So it leaves them once they see it and it jets off to this point, this predetermined coordinate where they were supposed to meet up as a part of their training run.

[722] So how the fuck does it know their cat point?

[723] Like what is and where it is, right?

[724] It's off the coast of San Diego.

[725] San Diego's big military area, right?

[726] And it's where they do testing.

[727] And it's where they were doing the training runs with those jets.

[728] That's why they saw it in the first place.

[729] If I was going to have a thing and I was going to test it and I was going to test it, I would want to know, like, what can we see?

[730] How much do our equipment show?

[731] What is our equipment show?

[732] Can we see these things?

[733] You know, Ryan Graves, who was another very reputable fighter jet pilot, he had his, encounters when they upgraded their technology in 2014.

[734] So they upgraded all the sensors that allow them to detect things in the sky.

[735] And when they did that, he started seeing these things.

[736] They're dead still at 120 knots.

[737] It makes no sense.

[738] They started seeing these things.

[739] I always fuck this up.

[740] It's a cube in a circle, right?

[741] Yes.

[742] Right.

[743] So it's a black cube inside some sort of a translucent circle that multiple, fighter pilots have reported and the idea of some sort of gravity distorting thing one of the one of the features of that they think would be it would look very strange like it would look very strange to you like what you see and if we have some sort of a gravity distorting drone that operates on a gravity propulsion system like somehow manipulates gravity so it can move at insane rates of speed I think that's where I would test it I test it where the military guys are I would test it in restricted airspace.

[744] I would test it in place.

[745] And I would say, okay, let's find out if these guys can see it now.

[746] Now we have new equipment, put the new equipment in their jets.

[747] Let's see if they could see these things.

[748] The concerning thing about that is if it was done by our own government.

[749] I worry that they're trying to set up for a false flag.

[750] Like a false UFO flag?

[751] Yeah.

[752] Like if...

[753] An alien invasion to lock down our rights?

[754] I mean, if they could stage it.

[755] Sure.

[756] Because, I mean, with what you're describing, no one would assume that that's human.

[757] Right.

[758] No one.

[759] No one except for people that have followed the Bob Bazaar story.

[760] Yeah.

[761] If they were back engineering that thing in 1989, as Bob says.

[762] That's true.

[763] It's a long time ago.

[764] It's a long time ago.

[765] You know, that is, that's a long time.

[766] And for them to have 35 plus years of working on that.

[767] So you've got to go back to how long did they have it?

[768] He said they've had it for decades.

[769] So, but I think what he was saying, back then was they really weren't making any progress.

[770] They were trying to figure it out.

[771] They kept bringing in new people to try to have fresh eyes.

[772] And that's why they brought him in.

[773] But they really don't fucking know.

[774] They said they didn't understand how it worked.

[775] And they were trying to get some sort of a working model of it.

[776] But they were able to operate it.

[777] And that's what he was able to observe.

[778] And that was one of the reasons why he got in trouble, allegedly, where when he got fired, he brought people.

[779] They said, listen, I'm not crazy.

[780] I mean, show you they have fucking UFOs I'm going to show you this that he brought the people yeah he brought people and those people all said the same thing they also and people have filmed it too they actually had to increase the restricted space around area 51 because people were going to a very particular vantage point and they were filming some of these things so there's footage of these bizarre crafts that seemed to be moving through the sky in a way that no conventional aircraft can do we don't really know what they are and we're assuming there's some kind of a drone or something But I think if you go to 1989 and they have those things, and then if you have all the money in the world, which they essentially do, they could print money, you have black ops projects, you have things that we, you know, because of national security interests, we have no idea what they're doing or how they're doing it.

[781] And then you get some of the best physicists in the world, some of the best propulsions experts in the world, and you throw an ungodly amount of money at this problem every year for 30 plus years.

[782] then you develop these things.

[783] And I think that's one of the reasons why they would probably keep it secret.

[784] Because I would imagine that money was moved around in probably an illegal way.

[785] I mean, without congressional oversight, there's no legal way to do it.

[786] Exactly, right?

[787] So if these guys were doing that and they were funding this secret military project that they kept from Congress, they kept from I mean who knows who's qualified to be able to see these things but if I had something like that I would that's the best cover story in the world we have observed crafts that are not from this world oh that explains everything that's insufficient to me to me too but it's fun it is fun both of them are fun and I think both of them listen the universe is fucking huge we exist we send things to other planets there is a rover right now on Mars, right?

[788] We send James Webb telescope into space.

[789] We send rockets.

[790] We do that.

[791] We do that.

[792] We would assume an advanced civilization would do that as well.

[793] Of course.

[794] And we would assume that if an advanced civilization was interested in studying something, we are some of the most fascinating creatures that have ever existed in our understanding on Earth.

[795] We're the most fascinating, by far.

[796] As weird as sharks are and all this other stuff is, we're the fucking weirdest.

[797] we're the weirdest and we're the craziest to study right and we're intelligent and also stupid you know we're capable of great things and also terrible things like we're a very very very bizarre creature and i think i would most certainly study us have you ever thought that maybe we were created by their specifications all the time me too yeah all the time yeah um that's the big mystery of the human brain size right that human brain size doubled over period of two million years.

[798] And there's a lot of coolest, like my favorite story is Terrence McKenna's.

[799] He had this theory.

[800] It's called the stoned ape theory.

[801] And it's about psilocybin.

[802] And that these chimpanzees and lower primates started experimenting with psilocybin.

[803] And then over the course of a couple of million years, they developed language, they developed disability to hunt better, fashion tools, more creativity, glossolalia, attaching sounds to objects.

[804] And that makes sense.

[805] Some sort of telepathy, increased visual acuity that does come from low -dose psilocybin use.

[806] That seems to me like that makes a lot of sense because it coincides with climate change.

[807] When McKenna did this whole theory about it, one of the things he talked about is that the exact time that the rainforest recede into grasslands because of this change in the climate is the time where these animals emerge, start walking on two legs, and then start eating mushrooms, he thinks.

[808] And then two million years later become people.

[809] Okay.

[810] Yeah.

[811] That's an interesting one.

[812] But the most interesting one is they came here.

[813] They saw us.

[814] We were like Australia Pythicus.

[815] We were some hairy creature that was kind of primate.

[816] Like maybe we even started using tools.

[817] And they said, let's fuck with that DNA.

[818] Let's make a labradoodle.

[819] I don't think people think big enough in regards to that kind of thing because if we had the technology to do what allegedly the aliens alleged aliens do we would be doing all sorts of crazy stuff all the time 100%.

[820] And I don't know.

[821] If we could introduce intelligent life into a planet, if there was life on a planet and we could introduce our DNA into these lower primates and make them more like us, You don't think we would do it?

[822] Yes.

[823] 100 %, right?

[824] Yeah, for sure.

[825] Yeah, I mean, we monkey with all kinds of things all the time.

[826] We're always messing around with creatures' DNA.

[827] I mean, there's a story that we talked about recently during World War I in Russia, where Russia was experimenting with hybridizing human beings and chimpanzees for soldiers.

[828] Orangotans, too.

[829] Yes.

[830] Didn't they, they got, they moved, they switched brains with an orangutan and a human.

[831] and I guess the human with the orangutan brain never regained consciousness, but evidently the human brain in the orangutan did regain consciousness.

[832] Really?

[833] Yeah.

[834] How did they do that?

[835] I don't know, but there's, I only know this from a Monster Quest.

[836] Is that real?

[837] Monster Quest might be a little full of shit.

[838] Although Monster Quest did bust one of the dumbest things that I used to believe.

[839] The dumbest.

[840] flying rods just the moths yeah it's just a visual artifact of cameras where the video cameras they catch these things moving fast close up and it leaves a trail and so there was this famous group of people that thought that there was these things that were flying around faster than we can see and that they were some sort of aliens that were amongst us that's orbs and ghost hunting to me A ghost is an interesting one What do you think about ghosts I would be very I don't know It's a tough one You know what I think?

[841] What do you think?

[842] You hear them from every culture That's what gives me pause This is not like something That's only with like Europeans And Christians and people that have a specific religious ideology This seems to be in almost every culture There's this concept of dead people that return right in some sort of a mysterious form i mean it's would be silly for a bigfoot person to say this but that could be part of the human condition you know certainly just no one wants to think that this is the end and i don't think this is the end but i do think ghosts are i mean why wouldn't a ghost be like hello because i think it's a memory sure i think when extreme things happen You know, when we're talking about the levels of reality being somewhat permeable, under extreme situations, what is more extreme than like a murder or a massacre?

[843] And those are the places where people tend to see ghosts, these horrific, I think the earth has a memory.

[844] And I think occasionally under the right circumstances with the right amount of anxiety, the right amount of distractions, and the heightened sense that you get from being in the dark.

[845] being afraid you can access these memories that's what I believe yeah I see but I mean the opposite argument to that is pretty obvious it's like just because your anxiety's up and because all those factors and because you know what's happened there you're more jumpy mm -hmm for sure and you see things that aren't there right but that does but if you see something that's not there does it really mean it's not there it doesn't necessarily right no I've always thought that because it's like if I say I saw a ghost and I actually didn't see it but in my brain I did Like, isn't that seeing a ghost?

[846] Right.

[847] Right.

[848] That's the argument that a lot of people have in terms of psychedelics.

[849] Like psychedelics, you contact God and you have this extreme spiritual experience where you're in contact with this all -knowing entity.

[850] And people say, oh, that's a hallucination.

[851] Okay.

[852] But it's the same experience as if you actually did contact God.

[853] Right.

[854] Like, whatever that thing is that you encounter in the psychedelic realm.

[855] let's say that that is a figment of your imagination.

[856] I'm willing to say that.

[857] But whatever that figment of your imagination creates, it creates the exact same experience as if you encountered some other extremely potent life form that exists in some strange form that it's not tangible.

[858] It's not like it doesn't register with you as something that it's not.

[859] a normal it's not like a mug of water you know it's a thing that doesn't exist in your reality and it's communicating with you it's exactly the same experience as if it's an imaginary thing or if it's a real thing right the experience is the same i think that's what happens with people with the ghost thing there's too many stories there's too many stories of ghosts from rational people and one of the places that has a crazy history of ghosts is the comedy store um i used to try to see ghosts at the comedy store.

[860] I would stay there late at night when everyone was gone.

[861] I'd like sit in the main room and just hope that a ghost would show up.

[862] Nothing ever did.

[863] But maybe as I was too needy.

[864] Maybe I was too tryhard.

[865] But there's something about like that club itself was Ciro's nightclub.

[866] So that club was owned by Bugsy Siegel in the gangster era of Los Angeles.

[867] And for sure people were murdered there.

[868] Like for fucking sure.

[869] Right.

[870] I mean those guys were killing people left and right.

[871] And if there's ever going to be a place where you're going to see the memory of some horrific experience that expresses itself in some sort of a spiritual form, some sort of a ghost -like wraith -type form, that's the place.

[872] And you didn't see anything?

[873] I didn't, but many people I know have.

[874] Many people I know have seen people walk through doors and they go into it.

[875] It's in an empty room.

[876] Like, who's that fucking guy?

[877] And they'll see it like at the end of a dark hallway.

[878] And then they open the door to the room.

[879] is completely empty.

[880] Yeah.

[881] Yeah, there's been a bunch of stories.

[882] A bunch of stories at the comedy store from really, like, reputable people.

[883] People that I know that aren't drunks, normal folks, and they tell you, and they look fucking terrified, and no one wants to believe them.

[884] There's a guy named Carl LeBoe.

[885] Carl LeBoe was a great comic who used to tour around with Sam Kinnison, and he got kicked out of his house, and I guess he was staying with his girl.

[886] friend and you know he's trying to make it as a comic and comics in the beginning they make no money of course a lot of them sleep in their cars like my friend tony slept in his car like a lot they're just they have a dream it's not like youtubeing it is except youtubeing has a more direct path to success with the youtube all you have to do is be you have this platform that is like the biggest video platform on earth and it's available to everybody right As much people complain about YouTube, I think YouTube is fucking amazing.

[887] I agree.

[888] And I think the real problems with YouTube is advertiser revenue and managing at scale.

[889] And then woke ideological crackheads that are running the helm, which is real, too.

[890] People are banning people for specific content that's completely legal.

[891] But outside of that, you have a path.

[892] If you get a video and it's like your video, you're here because I saw your crocodile video.

[893] And then bam, I want to talk to that guy.

[894] Why are you doing that?

[895] You know?

[896] I can't believe that's the video that you saw.

[897] Oh, yeah, man. That's how you get me, folks.

[898] Get me with a giant reptile video.

[899] There was no 50 -foot crocodile.

[900] You don't think so?

[901] No. Do you?

[902] Yeah.

[903] Oh, real?

[904] Yeah, I do.

[905] Head transplant has been successfully done on a monkey.

[906] Maverick neurosurge.

[907] Oh, this is a head transplant.

[908] Yeah, I've heard of that.

[909] So, yeah, it wasn't a brain.

[910] I went back through the Monster Quest episode.

[911] The one about the Soviet Union?

[912] Yeah, they were talking about a six, supposedly successful test where they transplanted a head from a monkey onto another monkey, and it, according to the doctor, regained consciousness, so they said it was a success.

[913] It wasn't, they didn't say you made.

[914] It died nine days later, and it was paralyzed the whole time.

[915] Yeah, it has to be paralyzed, right, because you can't reattach the spinal cord yet.

[916] Oh, that's cruel thing.

[917] Oh, super cruel.

[918] This one, which is, they're saying successful, happened somewhere else, and they killed it 20 hours later, but they said it, look at the picture, it's crazy.

[919] This guy also, I found another picture.

[920] He put a mouse head on the back of a rat, and I think it was staying alive.

[921] He's trying to figure out how to do head transplants, and he's testing it on all sorts of other stuff.

[922] Yo.

[923] Jurassic Park comes to mind.

[924] Yeah.

[925] Oh, yeah.

[926] Just because we can, should we?

[927] I mean, think about, like, then there will be a black market for, like, bodybuilders.

[928] Like, if I was some rich guy, I would pay money to.

[929] like have my head put on to a nice body.

[930] Right, to kidnap a bodybuilder, snatch up his body.

[931] I mean, I wouldn't, but you know what I'm saying.

[932] Right, but if you're like Bill Gates, right.

[933] I'm tired of being a pregnant man. I want to get a body of some super jacked fitness influencer on Instagram.

[934] Or what if it was like a closet full of clothes, only bodies?

[935] And it's like, what do I want to do today?

[936] Right.

[937] Well, one day, that's probably going to be the reality when they have synthetic bodies.

[938] The idea that we can't create a synthetic body to me seems kind of silly Because we've already created bladders They've used stem cells to recreate a woman's bladder Yeah, they took her own stem cells from her skin And constructed a bladder for her And then installed it inside of her body Okay I think she had bladder cancer or something like that And they had to remove her bladder So they built her a bladder That's nice Yeah, pretty sweet Yeah, right?

[939] It's also your own stem cells So your body's not going to reject it And you know they're looking at animals that regenerate, like there's certain reptiles that, you know, amphibians, they chop their legs off, they grow new legs, lobsters, a lot of animals do that.

[940] And so they're trying to figure out, like, what is that gene and how can we switch that on on people?

[941] So, like, people that have had their legs amputated, grow their legs back, which is fucking crazy.

[942] Yeah.

[943] Yeah.

[944] I think that's coming.

[945] They were about to do it to a guy in Russia, but he backed out after he got married and had a kid oh good for him they apparently had done it to corpses successfully they say corpses and they were going to this guy was down to do it well makes sense you mean even though he's paralyzed he has another option you know that with with neural ink and a lot of these new technologies they think that they're going to be able to send signals to your limbs and allow your limbs to bypass the severed spinal cord sure which is that's amazing all of it's crazy yeah but when you talk about Jurassic Park, are you aware of the mammoth project?

[946] Yeah.

[947] Did they manage to get the DNA?

[948] Yes.

[949] Okay.

[950] They're growing a mammoth.

[951] Like, it's actually happening.

[952] And when it does happen, we're going to figure out a way to visit it.

[953] No, these are American people.

[954] I believe so.

[955] I haven't met the guys yet.

[956] I don't know their nationality.

[957] I'm assuming.

[958] But they're out of Dallas, right?

[959] I think the thing was in New York.

[960] Whatever.

[961] Whatever.

[962] Whatever they're doing, they're going to bring back a mammoth.

[963] That's cool.

[964] It's wild.

[965] Yeah, I would love to see a mammoth.

[966] But how far do you go with that?

[967] Do you bring back a saber -tooth cat?

[968] What about an American lion, which was big as a fucking horse?

[969] Yeah.

[970] North American lion, a lot of people don't know, was larger than the lions that are in Africa.

[971] Yeah, they're two -thirds larger.

[972] Crazy.

[973] Yeah, that's...

[974] And that was right here.

[975] Yeah, it was right here.

[976] I have a, I don't know if you know this, but my, I did a video on the lines of Savo.

[977] Oh, I haven't seen that.

[978] Yeah.

[979] And then, that's the big video that the first video of mine that ever got traction of any kind.

[980] That's the ghost in the darkness story.

[981] Yeah, ghost and the darkness.

[982] I thought it was ghosts in the darkness for the last time.

[983] It's not.

[984] But then I did a second video where the lions were so badass that they died and went to hell and were really nasty in hell and got kicked out of hell.

[985] plopped out in dinosaur times.

[986] Oh.

[987] And then the video is about the Lions of Savo fighting a pack of Dynonicus.

[988] Ha!

[989] Yeah, and the Lions lost.

[990] But in reality, I think lions would beat a bunch of Dionycus.

[991] Who knows?

[992] You know, but I mean, that sounds like something the Romans probably would have put together when they were doing those Colosseum fights.

[993] No. But what this speaks to is what we were talking about earlier.

[994] Like, what happened to create human beings and what would we do if we could do those things.

[995] Well, we're showing what we would do.

[996] We're taking people's heads off, put them in other bodies.

[997] We're taking monkeys' heads off.

[998] We're putting a rat's head on the back of a mouse.

[999] We're doing all kinds of bizarre experiments.

[1000] And if they knew how to do it, instead of like we're kind of at the rudimentary stages of this kind of stuff, if they knew how to successfully implant their genetic material.

[1001] and hyper advance a lower primate and make it in a short period of time much smarter than any other primate on Earth, which is what we are.

[1002] We're so different than everything else that's remotely related to us.

[1003] The idea that somehow or another, we exist in this form and our ancient ancestors exist in the same form.

[1004] Like the really ancient ancestors, we branched off of a, we're like a cousin of a chimpanzee.

[1005] And we share a lot of their traits.

[1006] Yeah, they never found our chimpanzee -level ancestor.

[1007] Right, because it's on a fucking spaceship somewhere, bro.

[1008] Would that be surprising?

[1009] No, it would be, sure.

[1010] Yeah, it'd be crazy.

[1011] I wouldn't be surprised by that at all.

[1012] I wouldn't be, like, I can't believe this.

[1013] I wouldn't say that.

[1014] I would say, wow, so that's what it was.

[1015] So that's why we're so different.

[1016] Well, I was having a conversation with a woman yesterday, Sarah Amari Walker, who is a scientist, a physicist, and she was talking about a thing called assembly theory.

[1017] And what she was talking about, did I say her last name right?

[1018] What she was talking about was like what are the actual steps that are necessary in order for life to be created.

[1019] and evolve.

[1020] And if you think about human beings, we're the one animal on this planet that seems to have the same sort of impact as invasive species do.

[1021] Sure.

[1022] We swarm the whole planet.

[1023] We're fucking up everything and there's no answer to us.

[1024] Ah, see, but do you think humanity is something that needs an answer?

[1025] Well, there's no answer to us naturally, right?

[1026] Like there's nothing that keeps our population in check other than disease.

[1027] No, normal population control.

[1028] Like, so while the left is talking about, you know, humanity population going out of control, like, our population's crashing.

[1029] Sure.

[1030] Right.

[1031] What is it?

[1032] Asia crashed.

[1033] Europe and America are crashing now.

[1034] India's next to crash.

[1035] And Africa is the only one left to boom.

[1036] Right.

[1037] In terms of, like, Japan, like the children that are alive today, how many of them will ever have grandchildren?

[1038] Sure.

[1039] A very small percentage.

[1040] Yeah.

[1041] That's true.

[1042] Elon talks about that all the time.

[1043] Yeah.

[1044] I mean, because, like, you can look at it.

[1045] You can look at the charts.

[1046] Like, it's very clear, you know.

[1047] Right, but don't you think, so this is Nature's Balancing Act, right?

[1048] It has to happen.

[1049] It's not a matter of, like, it's going to.

[1050] It has to.

[1051] Those are the rules.

[1052] I think nature probably balanced us out when we develop cities, right?

[1053] Because what's the byproduct of cities?

[1054] One of the byproducts of cities is expensive to live there.

[1055] So a lot of times women get jobs.

[1056] And women don't want to give up their career to have a family, so they hold it off until much later.

[1057] And if they have a child at all, they have less kids than people who start having kids when they're 18 or 20.

[1058] Right.

[1059] And so this is sort of a function of having these extremely dense environments or people are stacked up with each other.

[1060] And then competition inside that city -like structure is intense and financial competition is intense.

[1061] and women engage in it as well, and it lowers the population.

[1062] That happens to almost all westernized societies, first world societies, they experience a drop in birth rate.

[1063] Right.

[1064] And it seems like that would be a natural feature of, like, high population areas.

[1065] Because it doesn't even matter what it is.

[1066] Like, for a deer, it's just the availability of grass.

[1067] Right.

[1068] You know, so I find it fascinating to think that humans are not, we're very different from animals.

[1069] but the rules still apply to us.

[1070] Right.

[1071] But we are animals, for sure.

[1072] Yeah.

[1073] But we also are invasive.

[1074] If a wild pig is invasive anywhere on earth, right?

[1075] That's true.

[1076] Then we're invasive.

[1077] Because we weren't there and then they were there and then we took over.

[1078] Yeah.

[1079] That's true.

[1080] And we're so different than every other animal in how much different we look from each other.

[1081] You know, the wide variety of sizes we have of people.

[1082] Yeah.

[1083] You know, it's just, it seems to me like, I've thought about that before, though.

[1084] Like, what if seven guerrillas that look exactly the same to us are all, like, hyper?

[1085] Like, what if, yeah, like, they might all look really differentiated to themselves?

[1086] I doubt it.

[1087] They look like gorillas.

[1088] I mean, just, like, look at what we see.

[1089] We see a gorilla.

[1090] But when you look at human beings, we're like dogs.

[1091] Yeah.

[1092] We vary, like, there's Carl over there, and then there's my dog, Marshall.

[1093] Marshall's a golden receiver.

[1094] Marshall, if Carl was a girl, or if Marshall was a girl.

[1095] girl and they could have a baby those two sort of like can he breed with someone we can find out we can find out he tries to fuck marshal he tries if marshall was a girl he tried to hump him marshall just gives up sometimes and carl's just biting on his face while he's lying on his back no he just gets tired of this little psychopath but the point is like they're the same species They're just a weird breed of that species, but they are the same thing.

[1096] Like, you could take a wolf and you could breed it with a dog.

[1097] You know, they all started off as wolves, and we manipulated them to the point where we have this incredible variety of shapes and sizes through manipulation.

[1098] Sure.

[1099] And that's what people look like.

[1100] I mean, that manipulation could be environmental, like the reason why people that move to Northern Europe develop very pale skin because their body has to act as sort of like a, like, like, like a solar reflector to create vitamin D because you don't get it like the way you would get it in Africa where we originally started.

[1101] So we're kind of like a manipulated animal in that regard.

[1102] At least our appearance.

[1103] And but that would make sense if somebody fucked with us.

[1104] Especially they made a bunch of different kinds.

[1105] Right.

[1106] You know?

[1107] You know, like initially, like the thought is the fun stuff is the Ananaki, right?

[1108] That's the fun one.

[1109] Sure.

[1110] But the Ononaki came here and they manipulated with humans.

[1111] Then you look at the Sumerian tablets and you see the images of the giant Anunaki guy who has the monkey person sitting on his lap with the tail.

[1112] Have you ever seen that one?

[1113] You never saw that?

[1114] No. Dude.

[1115] It's like a 5 ,000 -year -old tablet of this guy who is this enormous person with this beautiful garb on.

[1116] And he's got this person sitting on his lap, this small person with a tail.

[1117] What?

[1118] Yeah.

[1119] Oh, my goodness.

[1120] Oh, dude, if you've studied any of the ancient Sumerian tablets at all?

[1121] Honestly, that stuff, I'm like saving that for a rainy day.

[1122] Get into it.

[1123] Yeah.

[1124] Get into it.

[1125] Because the whole Zachariah Sitchin version of the Sumerian text is really, really interesting stuff.

[1126] Is that like, no, that wouldn't be where the Nephilim come in.

[1127] Yes.

[1128] Yeah, it is?

[1129] Yeah, yeah.

[1130] Their version of the Nephilim is the Ananaki.

[1131] The nephalum is those from heaven to earth came.

[1132] Nephilim were supposed to be giants, right?

[1133] This is the Ananaki.

[1134] They're much larger than human beings, and they did something, according to the Sumerian text, as translated by Zechari As Itchon.

[1135] Okay.

[1136] And this is why the symbol for medicine was always that...

[1137] Serpent.

[1138] Yeah, the two serpents, right?

[1139] That looks like a double helix DNA.

[1140] Oh.

[1141] It's exactly what it looks like.

[1142] And he, that's the connection that he makes with all this stuff.

[1143] And a lot of people disagree with him.

[1144] I should just point out, if you're interested in this stuff, there's a whole website called sitchen is wrong .com.

[1145] And I've read that too.

[1146] And it's interesting.

[1147] And I appreciate when people have varying opinions, right?

[1148] But there's, there's something about sitchen stuff that is very compelling to me. And one of the big reasons is there's a lot of mysteries about the understanding that, that the Sumerians had that sort of defies conventional logic like they had a detailed map of the solar system in you know 6 ,000 years ago in these clay tablets so they have the sun in the center and then they have all of our planets in the proper order in the proper not the exact size but this one's bigger than that one that one's bigger than this one and it's depicted on a clay tablet and you look at it and you look at it okay what the fuck is that but would you really need as advanced well yeah you would Oh, you would?

[1149] Yeah.

[1150] You need a telescope.

[1151] There's no other way.

[1152] Like, there's no way with the human eye you're going to see Uranus.

[1153] You don't see it.

[1154] There's no way you see Pluto.

[1155] You don't see them.

[1156] I mean, they...

[1157] Okay.

[1158] You're not going to see it.

[1159] They saw it.

[1160] You know, they had...

[1161] Like, show the...

[1162] Find the monkey one first.

[1163] Did you find it?

[1164] I was looking for...

[1165] I'm not exactly sure what I was looking for for that one.

[1166] Sumerian tablet, Anunaki, with monkey person on his life.

[1167] lap.

[1168] I wasn't getting what I thought you wanted.

[1169] Well, I know you can find the solar system one, so find that one quick, just so I could show it to him.

[1170] So this is a giant mystery as to what this meant and how they knew this.

[1171] So this is like in between two photos of these Ananaki, or two images of these Ananakis.

[1172] So it has the sun, and it has all of our planets.

[1173] And it has all of our planets, not in the corrects.

[1174] size, obviously, because Jupiter is so much larger than Earth, but in this one's bigger than that one, that one's bigger than this one.

[1175] It's like a visual representation as much as you can in a small area like that.

[1176] But some of their tablets were just absolutely fascinating.

[1177] No, but how cool is that, though?

[1178] I know.

[1179] So these people were writing about the story of humanity, and they're writing it down on these clay tablets and it it seems to be some bizarre story of visitors a lot of them have wings like that one that shows the eagle sure like what's that all about who's that fucking guy raw I think yeah but also wouldn't that represent some sort of a spaceship like something that can actually fly if you the only thing that you saw that could fly were birds right and you were trying to represent something as something that flies you would you know yeah didn't uh in the bible or the uh the jewish bible the talmud uh cloud cloud get translated to oh no what was it the shield got translated to cloud with the pillar with the pillar of fire hmm i believe there was that that led the Israelites out of the desert wasn't something like that oh no but that makes sense i could have i said i wasn't going to talk about anything that i wasn't sure about.

[1180] No, that's what this show's all about.

[1181] Yeah, just being full of it.

[1182] I could have swore that it was like, there was a, in the Bible, it says the pillar of fire and a cloud, and that's what the Israelites followed out of the desert.

[1183] It could be.

[1184] I've read that the more pragmatic translation is actually shield, and it wasn't cloud.

[1185] Huh.

[1186] Here it is.

[1187] The pillars are said to God of the Israelites through the desert during the exodus from Egypt.

[1188] The pillar of cloud provided a visible God for the Israel.

[1189] relides during the day, while the pillar of fire lit their way by night.

[1190] Yeah, so evidently, it wasn't a cloud but a shield, and like what would a shield look like?

[1191] Hmm.

[1192] Like that, we would call that a saucer.

[1193] Right.

[1194] Huh.

[1195] Well, then there's the Ezekiel story in the Bible, which seems very much like some sort of a UFO encounter, like the way you would describe a UFO encounter.

[1196] If there's nothing that flew and you didn't understand what advanced technology.

[1197] would be if you saw it.

[1198] The Vimana's in the ancient Hindu text.

[1199] I mean, there's just so many.

[1200] There's so much of it.

[1201] Yeah, there's so much of that stuff.

[1202] And again, if life is out there everywhere in the universe, it kind of makes sense that someone would visit us as we're emerging, as life as becoming more and more intelligent over the course of millions and millions years and they find this one particular animal that's very similar to what they used to be at one point in time and they just say let's speed this along yeah i think we would do that i know we would if we found a plant filled with monkeys you don't think we'd take a few of them and shoot our stuff into it like let's see let's just it'll be fun it might also be a feature of the universe that that's what intelligent life ultimately does which is why we want a monkey around with these monkeys in the first place and take their heads and putting on other bodies Yeah, so I think that different planets, in order to meet the requirements of life, would actually be quite similar.

[1203] That's just a theory I have.

[1204] It's a common theory.

[1205] Well, yeah.

[1206] Yeah, so people say, like, why are aliens, like, carbon life forms?

[1207] Like, well, that's what works.

[1208] Right, right.

[1209] Because they could be anything.

[1210] Not only that, that's ubiquitous, right?

[1211] Right.

[1212] Like, bursting stars create carbon.

[1213] Mm -hmm.

[1214] This is, carbon -based life exists here.

[1215] Why wouldn't exist everywhere else where there's stars everywhere else?

[1216] Right.

[1217] It seems to be that, like, we don't find solar systems that have something completely different than a planet.

[1218] You know, everything that we found outside of our solar system seems to behave in a similar manner.

[1219] We look at galaxies.

[1220] They seem to behave in a similar manner.

[1221] They seem to look similar.

[1222] They're of different sizes and the like, but they're pretty similar.

[1223] They're these circular spiral things.

[1224] It makes sense that if that exists.

[1225] everywhere, probably carbon -based life exists everywhere, too.

[1226] It's probably a feature of these solar systems.

[1227] Correct.

[1228] That's what I would say, too.

[1229] Yeah.

[1230] And then there's probably, like, if you are growing a garden in your backyard, you know when you planted the tomatoes.

[1231] You got like a little thing on it, 722 planted tomatoes, you know?

[1232] No. So then you check on them.

[1233] And then other tomatoes you planted like a couple of weeks later, like, oh, those won't be doing time.

[1234] So if you were planting humans on a planet, you'd go, Well, they need a couple million years before they get their shit together, but they've started to develop nuclear bombs.

[1235] And that's why they hang out over nuke bases.

[1236] Yeah.

[1237] Or they're foreign governments showing us that they have advanced technology and they can hover over our nuclear bases.

[1238] I think there's some of that going on too.

[1239] Yeah, but there's so many, like, oh, that fellow who, I can't recall his name, but he's like the most popular video on Greer's channel, Richard Greer.

[1240] Stephen Greer?

[1241] Stephen Greer.

[1242] Yeah.

[1243] He was like the guy who would discredit you if you saw a UFO.

[1244] He told a story about how...

[1245] Alan Hopkins, that are you talking about?

[1246] I believe so.

[1247] From Project Blue Book?

[1248] Yes.

[1249] Yeah.

[1250] Well, actually, I don't know.

[1251] Well, Alan Hopkins was the guy who was hired to debunk UFO silos.

[1252] No, it's not him.

[1253] He was...

[1254] And then he later became a believer.

[1255] So he studied...

[1256] He worked for Project Blue Book for...

[1257] couple decades and was sent out to like oh we saw this and he would go swamp gas and then after the his career is over then he came public with everything so it's saying I think UFOs are real I think we really are being visited yeah well J. Allen Heineck Heineck yeah yeah what did I say Hopkins oh different J. Allen Heineck I was not thinking of Heineck it's this guy was like a self -admitted deep state stooge like he was the type of guy that would go out and discredit you if you saw something oh he would discredit you personally yes okay um so he would turn you into a fool right so if you went to stephen greer's channel and looked at the most popular video on it you would find it but he talks for like two hours about everything he knows and it's nuts absolutely bonkers find that guy and i really i believe you believe him you believe him you want to believe him right this stuff seems so much more uh likely than the alternative which is nothing oh there's no life out there yeah it's not it's not Because we don't even know what they are.

[1258] I mean, I'm not even saying they're extraterrestrial, really.

[1259] Not only that, but so much more likely that they would want to visit us.

[1260] Oh, I mean, yes.

[1261] Yeah.

[1262] So let's get back to the crocodile.

[1263] How come you don't believe?

[1264] Why would you believe, I mean, 50 -foot crocodile?

[1265] Sure.

[1266] They just keep getting bigger.

[1267] They don't, though.

[1268] How big do they get?

[1269] I don't know crocodiles.

[1270] Right.

[1271] So here's the thing.

[1272] What we know about crocodiles now are crocodiles after guns.

[1273] So guns change everything.

[1274] So that alligator out there that you saw in our lobby, that's 80 years old.

[1275] Yeah.

[1276] 80 years old and a gun killed that alligator.

[1277] So guns get introduced in the 1800s and then explorers start going through the Congo in the 1800s.

[1278] And they start shooting crocodiles.

[1279] They shoot a lot of crocodiles.

[1280] In fact, a friend of mine actually got hired to go to the Congo.

[1281] Was it the Congo?

[1282] Where it?

[1283] Jim Shockey.

[1284] What part did he go to?

[1285] I forget.

[1286] But he went to Africa.

[1287] He's a hunter.

[1288] And they hired him to shoot crocodiles.

[1289] Because so many people in this village, he went to this village.

[1290] He said it was so heartbreaking.

[1291] Like, this guy's missing an arm.

[1292] This person's missing a leg.

[1293] They have bites taken out of him.

[1294] And while he was there, a woman got taken out.

[1295] Like, while he was there, a woman was washing clothes and a crocodile snatched her and dragged her into the water.

[1296] Yeah.

[1297] And when human beings start bringing guns, the whole ecosystem changes, right?

[1298] So these 50 -foot things that have been apex predators just sunning themselves on the shore.

[1299] Now some guy lines up a shot from the beach or from a boat, rather, and just takes it out.

[1300] And they're shooting all these different crocodiles.

[1301] And so doing this over the course of, you know, 50, 60 years, all the big ones are dead.

[1302] Yeah.

[1303] And it takes fucking forever for a crocodile.

[1304] become a 50 -foot crocodile, and they don't die.

[1305] Yeah, but they just stay alive.

[1306] Like, they only die when they, when something happens to them.

[1307] But there's one crocodile in a reserve in South Africa who was born in like 1890 or something, and he's only like 17 feet long.

[1308] Right.

[1309] So you think that's because this environment wasn't big enough?

[1310] I think it's because he's born 1890, not 1790.

[1311] Oh.

[1312] So they don't die.

[1313] Okay.

[1314] So if a crocodile is living in the Congo, okay, the Congo is rich.

[1315] with life.

[1316] There's life everywhere.

[1317] And certain animals have to cross these rivers.

[1318] And that's just a fucking meal train.

[1319] You know, you've seen those animals, wildebeest trying to make it across the river and then the crocs show up and just start snatching them.

[1320] I mean, some of them make it through and some of them die.

[1321] And that's just how it's always been.

[1322] And so they've had enormous amounts of food forever.

[1323] And if they've lived for hundreds and hundreds of years, those things would just continue to grow.

[1324] It doesn't seem outside the realm of possibility for something to be twice as big as the biggest one that they've spotted.

[1325] Yeah, but that's long.

[1326] So, like, Great White Sharks were pretty sure that they get to 22 .5 feet, and then they get fatter.

[1327] Right.

[1328] So, 50 feet is really big.

[1329] Megadons.

[1330] Yeah, but that's a different thing.

[1331] Right.

[1332] But it was also a giant fucking shark.

[1333] Yes.

[1334] I think it's possible there's certain subspecies of crocodiles Just like there is like Caymans Like there's different subspecies of Caymans Even or crocodiles rather even in the Amazon There's big ones that get to be like 16 feet long And there's small ones that get killed by Jaguars all the time You know those are cool I think that Bigfoot is more likely to be real than a 50 foot crocodile So you think these people that have these depictions of it being as big or bigger than their boat, they're just exaggerating?

[1335] Yeah.

[1336] I do.

[1337] But not in a malicious or even a lying way.

[1338] Probably just freaked out of the size of the goddamn thing.

[1339] I even freaked out, just like it was giant.

[1340] Right.

[1341] And then they exaggerate over time.

[1342] Like it was probably 30 feet maybe.

[1343] But like twice as big, bigger, more than twice as big as the biggest ever, is pretty nuts.

[1344] It is nuts, but occasionally animals do have mutations that makes them much larger.

[1345] And you see that with humans.

[1346] like the biggest human ever was like nine feet tall wasn't he but not 12 right yeah right true right not double the size right but he also was dealing with gravity yes and like the real problems with being a gigantic human with all the bad bone problems what is that that's the world's oldest crocodile yeah henry jesus how old's henry they caught him in 1903 Jesus Caught him in 1903 How crazy is that They caught him over a hundred years ago When I was working on the video I don't know why this Occurred to me But he was born roughly the same time As Adolf Hitler He's a man -eating crock Yeah He's killed a lot of people Nile crock yeah So this guy's just hanging out with him What the fuck is wrong with this dude He's just assuming that the thing's not hungry How crazy are people That we want to sit right next to a goddamn giant monster like that.

[1347] Look at the size of that thing.

[1348] I just can't imagine why anybody would stand next to that.

[1349] Can't you stand really far away and just film it?

[1350] That's how I feel about surfing.

[1351] 700 kilos that puts in like 1 ,500 pounds or so.

[1352] Jesus.

[1353] 1 ,500, 1 ,500.

[1354] They're so cool, too.

[1355] Like, look at that face, the way all the teeth, like, integrate with the gums.

[1356] And when you know that this thing, so it's captured in 1903, when was it born, right?

[1357] I think it was about 15 years old when they captured him.

[1358] That is so crazy.

[1359] So this thing's somewhere around 135 years old.

[1360] This guy's just grabbing its dick.

[1361] Look at it.

[1362] He's like, hey, bro.

[1363] To compare that giant crock that always pops up on a golf course in Florida is known to be about 10 to 12 feet and 1 ,000 pounds.

[1364] Yeah, that's an alligator.

[1365] I know, it's like 15 plus feet and 1500 pounds.

[1366] Like I said, the one that's out there is 14 feet.

[1367] Yeah, I was.

[1368] I was really surprised to learn how much smaller, even when the size or when the length is similar, how much less heavy alligators are.

[1369] Oh, yeah, they're twice as heavy.

[1370] Yeah, crocodiles, rather, are twice as heavy.

[1371] They are so dense and they're so aggressive.

[1372] Have you ever seen when they have, yeah, it turns towards them?

[1373] Like, that guy could just get taken out like that.

[1374] But they drown.

[1375] That's how crocodiles kill.

[1376] Because they get too big, right?

[1377] No, I'm saying.

[1378] Oh, how they kill people.

[1379] Yeah.

[1380] So, like, a crocodile like that would, if you couldn't drag you to water.

[1381] Isn't that nuts that, like, their actual method is drowning?

[1382] Yeah.

[1383] Well, they can hold their breath forever.

[1384] Right.

[1385] So they're just like, I know you can't.

[1386] Right, because, like, their teeth are just meant for holding.

[1387] Yeah.

[1388] It's their teeth aren't meant for chopping or chomping or anything.

[1389] Have you seen the one where the crocodile takes a pig and snaps it and half with like a shake of his leg and chokes down the leg?

[1390] No. Have you seen the one where the crocodile just, like, rolls and rips its friend's leg off for no reason?

[1391] And the friend doesn't even flinch.

[1392] It's just like, what the fuck, dude?

[1393] Yeah.

[1394] Yeah.

[1395] Yeah, the lady was feeding them, right?

[1396] Mm -hmm.

[1397] And he just, what do you got here, Jeremy?

[1398] Oh, yeah, here it is.

[1399] Look at that.

[1400] Oh, my gosh.

[1401] It just snaps that pig in half.

[1402] Yeah.

[1403] With a quick little fling of its neck.

[1404] Sure did.

[1405] Oh, that's my own Instagram.

[1406] Watch this.

[1407] Snap.

[1408] Like, there's nothing.

[1409] No. Just wanted a bite -sized chunk.

[1410] No big deal.

[1411] Just an animal that's been around for how many millions of years?

[1412] I know we're strayed, but this is the guy you're talking about.

[1413] Richard Doty.

[1414] Okay.

[1415] Spread disinformation about UFOs on behalf of the Air Force office.

[1416] of special investigations.

[1417] So that's the guy.

[1418] Yeah.

[1419] So his job was to make you look like an idiot if you believe in UFOs.

[1420] Now, why do you think they would do that?

[1421] To discredit people.

[1422] But why?

[1423] Why would they want to discredit people?

[1424] Man, you are, I don't know, I guess, to keep their secrets.

[1425] What secrets?

[1426] All right, then keep your secrets.

[1427] So you think that they know something about UFOs.

[1428] They don't want people to believe these things are real.

[1429] They want to discourage people coming forward.

[1430] So they mock them.

[1431] They turn them into fools.

[1432] This guy's job is to discredit all the stories and make the person look like a crazy person, gaslight everybody.

[1433] And it's because they don't want people to know what they know.

[1434] I would imagine that the truth is worse.

[1435] Well, yes, but because what they know is really, really bad.

[1436] What do you think they think?

[1437] What do you think they know?

[1438] Do you subscribe to the Babazar Vessels of Souls idea?

[1439] I'm unfamiliar with that.

[1440] Oh, you didn't know that one?

[1441] No. So I know Kathy Turner, a Dr. Kathy Turner, who wrote taken into the fringe and masquerade of angels.

[1442] And she said the only thing that's consistent throughout all abduction reports is that the aliens are fascinated with the concept of the soul.

[1443] So I assume that works into whatever you're talking about with Babazar.

[1444] Bob Lazar said one of the more bizarre things that he found out when he was working at Area S4 was that they had this like very thick sort of document on all that they knew so far about aliens.

[1445] And one of the things was it went back to religion.

[1446] See if you can find Bob Lazar talking about it, so I don't butcher this.

[1447] but I believe what he was saying was that they think of us as containers for souls.

[1448] Now let's imagine, before we show the Bob Lazar thing, let's imagine how that would happen.

[1449] Now let's imagine that human beings, we are biological life, and so therefore we have what we call a soul, and then we create digital life.

[1450] and maybe, maybe this digital life, maybe artificial creations are what we're seeing in these gray aliens.

[1451] Maybe they are some sort of hybrid or some sort of creation that's outside of evolutions, outside of natural adaptation.

[1452] And they look at us as the source, like they can't breed anymore.

[1453] maybe for them to exist maybe they need an actual soul and to think of us as a farm for souls yeah i really do think that we're a farm of some kind to them because it's funny because people always say like they hang out over uh nuke sites so that we don't bomb ourselves and it's like sure but not from a compassion standpoint it's like if the farmer doesn't protect his cow because he wants it to find some sort of spiritual thing.

[1454] And that's why I take issue with like Stephen Greer and all those people who are like, you just need to expand your consciousness and then you see it.

[1455] It's like that's a pretty, I feel like that's what they want you to think.

[1456] Did you find the Bob Lazar thing?

[1457] Here, listen to him to talk about this because it's pretty crazy.

[1458] Yeah, the only hardcore thing is that there is an extremely classified document dealing with religion and it's about that second period.

[1459] Bob Laser on humans and religion they're going to use yeah the only hardcore thing is that there is an extremely classified document dealing with religion and it's about that period but why would there be any classified material dealing with religion i want to go back to the religion thing i want you to say it's just it's so it's so far out it's all right your objection has been noted okay what does it say I want to go back to the religion thing I want you to say it's just it's so it's so far out it's all right your objection has been noted okay what does it say that were containers that's how that's how supposedly the alien flick has that we are nothing but containers containers oh containers maybe containers and sold you can come up with whatever theory you want but we're containers and that's how we're mentioned in the documents um that religion was specifically created so we had some rules and regulations for the soul purpose and not damaging the container yeah yikes i didn't think of it that way yeah that you can actually damage your soul yeah but it is almost like every holy text has that well it does make sense too because if if what is in religion right the idea is like to save your soul you have to abide by certain rules you have to be good to each other you have to live a just life all these things are laid out so you don't damage the energy that is inside you and turn it evil see it could be more pragmatic than that though if someone is going to inherit your soul they don't want it bog down with bad habits right yeah well they don't want it to be evil they wanted to have negative energy attached to it and the karma of killing a bunch of people right who wants dick cheney soul you know the aliens like you could have that dude remember when he shot someone and then the guy apologized Yeah.

[1460] Isn't that nuts?

[1461] You know how gangster that is?

[1462] Yeah.

[1463] You shoot a guy in a face and the dude's like, yeah, I look like a bird.

[1464] Don't worry about it.

[1465] I look like a dude.

[1466] Can you, what is with, is there any way to you that we're not being gaslit, like to hell by Kamala Harris?

[1467] In what way?

[1468] Like, wasn't she like a joke even among Democrats?

[1469] Uh -huh.

[1470] Like 10 seconds ago?

[1471] Like literally.

[1472] Like a day ago.

[1473] Yep.

[1474] And now it's like, the country's rallying around.

[1475] I know.

[1476] Yeah.

[1477] What?

[1478] I don't know.

[1479] I don't even.

[1480] Yeah, we're so easily manipulated, and they're all doing it in lockstep.

[1481] Yeah, no doubt about it.

[1482] There's no doubt about it.

[1483] She was, she polled as the least popular vice president of all time.

[1484] She is, you know, I had dinner with a friend of mine recently who actually knows her.

[1485] He says she's very smart.

[1486] But when she gets in front of a camera, she locks up and she's just not good at communicating.

[1487] And she tries to go off script, and she, you know, whenever you're talking in front of a large, group of people, there's a bizarre stress and pressure that really constricts your ability to communicate.

[1488] I'm aware.

[1489] Yeah.

[1490] As of the last few minutes.

[1491] Yeah.

[1492] It's weird.

[1493] And this is just you and me, right?

[1494] It's just you and me. And now imagine you and me, but we're in front of 15 ,000 people that are hanging on our every word and you're kind of free -balling and maybe you really haven't even done the research.

[1495] Like someone's asking you how you're going to fix the economy, you're right?

[1496] And then you have some not, well, the problem is, everybody needs my word.

[1497] money because the bills and we're working on that like what well you can that's so obvious when you know the passage of time is significant and the significance of the passage of time is significant because of the passage of time exactly yeah so that's someone who is basically like a kid in the fifth grade who's writing a book report but they haven't read the book that's every time i see her on camera that's all i can think is that she's the kid who didn't do her homework right because it just has that vibe did you see the clip of her talking about how how dare we wish merry christmas to people No. Yeah, she does this bizarre, like, rant about how we shouldn't be wishing Merry Christmas to anyone.

[1498] Is this when she was a senator?

[1499] I don't know.

[1500] It's recent.

[1501] It's recent.

[1502] Yeah.

[1503] It's so strange that, like, that was her, like, that's the only time I've seen her passionate about anything on camera.

[1504] Come on, really?

[1505] Oh, I haven't seen that.

[1506] I've seen the one she's telling that people need to be woke.

[1507] Everyone needs to be more woke.

[1508] Oh, yeah.

[1509] Be more woke.

[1510] You should figure out who's the wokenest and try to be the wokenest, but she's, whatever, everyone's to be more woke.

[1511] She's, like, laughing.

[1512] It's like, what the fuck.

[1513] And when we all.

[1514] all sing happy tunes and sing Merry Christmas and wish each other Merry Christmas.

[1515] These children are not going to have a Merry Christmas.

[1516] How dare we speak Merry Christmas?

[1517] How dare we?

[1518] Merry Christmas, everyone.

[1519] She invoked Greta Thunberg a little bit there.

[1520] Oh, that's so nutty.

[1521] How dare we?

[1522] How dare you?

[1523] Yeah, no, we're definitely being gaslit.

[1524] And not only that, here's the big one.

[1525] right she wasn't elected right she was uh appointed vice president and then the they didn't do primaries they had no primaries for joe biden and now all of a sudden she is the nominee because he's stepping away and so then they bring in her and they bring in this other guy who's radical from minnesota that's the vice president who um he he believes a lot of wild things one of them is transgender surgery for people who are under 13.

[1526] Another one is abortion up until nine months.

[1527] Ooh.

[1528] Obviously, there's reasons why people medically would, like, if the woman's life is in danger, if the child has something wrong, it's not going to live, there's reasons why they choose to do things like that.

[1529] But that stuff scares the fuck out of people.

[1530] He changed the Minnesota state flag to make it look like the Somali flag.

[1531] Yeah.

[1532] Oh.

[1533] You haven't seen that?

[1534] No. Show that video.

[1535] So the video of him taking down the Minnesota flag and he replaced it with the new flag.

[1536] That looks a lot like the Somali flag.

[1537] Wow.

[1538] Minnesota has a huge population of Somalis in it.

[1539] Well, isn't what's her face?

[1540] Yes.

[1541] Yeah.

[1542] But there's a video of him doing it.

[1543] Man. Well, okay.

[1544] Well, let's see.

[1545] the video but they did change the Minnesota State flag correct sometimes the false yeah that's the problem with like fact checkers some of these fact checkers are completely full of shit like you're just trying to debunk something especially now when there's all this scrutiny being paid attention to what this guy's done yeah what have you what's the the false stuff Jamie it's not the flag itself yeah I'm I mean I typed in I was just trying to even get to it a whole the stories are popping up.

[1546] I'll just show you this.

[1547] Like, no, he didn't give them a Somali flag.

[1548] No, he didn't change.

[1549] It resembles Somali.

[1550] False Somali state flag.

[1551] Okay, but what does it look like now?

[1552] So I was trying to get to.

[1553] Okay.

[1554] On the left is a Somali flag.

[1555] On the right is the Minnesota state flag.

[1556] Okay.

[1557] Same color as Somali flag, a white star, a different white star in it, like the Somali flag, very different than the original Minnesota flag.

[1558] And there's the video down below that.

[1559] That's when he changes it out.

[1560] So he takes out the state flag oh hold on a second wait a minute turn the volume up please so you hear him say that all right ready whoa wait a minute so he gets the flag picks it up moves it out of the way and replaces it look at this there that's better is it why is that better I don't know why why do you care what the flag looks like first of all and why do you get to change the flag how crazy is that the governor gets to change the flag?

[1561] Like, who else is involved in that decision to change the flag?

[1562] Is that what happened?

[1563] I don't know.

[1564] Usually it's a big, it's a big event that let people pick, you know.

[1565] Right.

[1566] No, we have a bunch of people that's a high population of Somalis in your state.

[1567] I would imagine they would want to try to get that flag a little closer to home.

[1568] Yeah.

[1569] The worst incident of fact -checking was the quid pro quo, prid quo Joe clip where Biden brags about that time that he withheld a billion dollars of aid to Ukraine so they fire a prosecutor to fire a prosecutor that we now know his son worked for and if you and if you type that in Snopes or whatever would tell you just like oh that didn't happen Biden there was no quid pro quo and Biden didn't want the prosecutor fired that is because he didn't know that his son worked for Burisma at the time and it's like how can you just say that's fake and like it's scary to me that people will read that and be like, oh, it's fake.

[1570] It's like, no, look at it, like, with your eyes.

[1571] Yeah, fact checkers are fucking dangerous, and it's really, it's really, I mean, what you're seeing is kind of treason.

[1572] That's, it's kind of what it is.

[1573] If you're seeing that kind of fact checking, you're lying.

[1574] You're lying and you're intentionally misrepresenting facts, and you're doing so because you want a specific result politically.

[1575] Right.

[1576] And it should be illegal.

[1577] I agree.

[1578] Especially if people think of you as a fact checker.

[1579] you know and what does that mean what does it mean to be a fact checker the problem with facts is a lot of them are very subjective and you can find one small inconsistency or one the you could phrase a question in a certain way and have your answer false in a different way because you're you're just finding some nitpicky way to look at things i've seen a lot of that to the point we're like that's not fact checked at all you guys just fucking you're gaslighting it's just pure gaslighting that's this is what it says who's picked the new flag.

[1580] State emblems, redesigned commission, tasked with choosing the new flag and seal made its final selections this week, and the new design will debut next year.

[1581] It follows four months of meetings, many spirited debates and 2 ,500 submissions from the public sharing their ideas for the new symbols.

[1582] This is why they changed it.

[1583] He said it was problematic.

[1584] Problematic.

[1585] Oh, I love that term.

[1586] Our current flag is problematic.

[1587] I think we all know that.

[1588] We've evolved from a more diverse state, evolved into a more diverse state, and I think it's more reflective of that.

[1589] Okay, what was the original flag?

[1590] There was concern with the scene depicted on the old flag, which many found offensive.

[1591] First adopted in 1957, the flag showed a white settler, tilling land as an indigenous man rides horseback.

[1592] Indigenous members of the state emblem redesign commission said it was harmful to their communities and promoted the erasure of their people from the land.

[1593] What?

[1594] Well, can I see what it looks like?

[1595] Show me the original...

[1596] Just get a photo of the original Minnesota flag.

[1597] Okay, click on that.

[1598] Let's see what it looked like.

[1599] Okay.

[1600] So there's a Native American on horseback.

[1601] I see it, though.

[1602] And then there's a farmer tilling the land a Native American on horseback.

[1603] Is that problematic because Native Americans didn't really ride horses and people didn't really till the land?

[1604] Like, I don't understand what...

[1605] That's a big controversy about that, actually.

[1606] Yeah.

[1607] Whether or not horses, how long horses have been in North America?

[1608] Well, horses originated in North America.

[1609] What?

[1610] Yeah, horses originated in North America, including zebras.

[1611] All them originated in North America.

[1612] Then they were wiped out, and they had been introduced into Asia and Africa and all these other continents, and then reintroduced back to America.

[1613] Right.

[1614] I meant, like, when people rode them.

[1615] Correct.

[1616] Right.

[1617] Because a lot of people are saying that First Nations people, had horses for a lot longer than Europeans had been in America?

[1618] Certainly possible.

[1619] There's certainly different segments, different North American tribes that were much better, including right here where we are, the Comanche.

[1620] The Comanchee were notoriously good at raising horses, and it was part of how fierce they were.

[1621] They had so many horses.

[1622] They rode them so well, and they could ride sideways and shoot arrows underneath the horse's neck.

[1623] But I don't know why that's so problematic.

[1624] You've got to replace it with something that looks a horse.

[1625] whole lot like a Somali flag.

[1626] The idea it doesn't look like a Somali flag is kind of crazy.

[1627] I mean, it's, it does.

[1628] It does.

[1629] It certainly does.

[1630] It's certainly the same color.

[1631] It certainly also has a white star.

[1632] It's just a different white star.

[1633] Yeah.

[1634] So it's like, you know, the flag doesn't bother me that much.

[1635] If the people in Minnesota like it, like who cares?

[1636] It's just a star and some colors.

[1637] The real problem is when you hear discussions of things that are like openly Marxist, philosophies when you hear talk about equal outcomes and you know and not just equal opportunity but that we all need to arrive at the same place equal outcome talk there's only one way they can do that and it's by forcing you well it's by everyone having nothing yeah that's the only way to have things totally equal because you can't have everyone have everything that's impossible right there's no way there's not enough resources and so for equal distribution that has to be enforced by law So that has to be enforced by the government, and the government generally does not have equal.

[1638] They have much more than you.

[1639] And that's Fidel Castro in Cuba.

[1640] That's North Korea.

[1641] That's virtually every communist country that's ever existed.

[1642] You have a military dictatorship that decides what you can and can't do with your time.

[1643] And all under the guise of making it better for everyone.

[1644] And that's exactly what they did to North Korea.

[1645] When they took over people's farms, they said, we're going to take over the farm so that everybody has food.

[1646] Yay, good.

[1647] Now everyone's starving.

[1648] And the government has all the food.

[1649] And if you kill a cow, they'll kill you.

[1650] Yeah, it's nuts.

[1651] It's nuts that people don't learn from history.

[1652] And it's nuts that people who subscribe to this leftist ideology have this very distorted version of humans and how capitalism works and what's the benefits of it.

[1653] I think there's a lot of parts of progressive ideology and philosophy that could be applied to society to make things better.

[1654] I think if we funded more things the same way we fund.

[1655] the fire department, the police force, these are kind of socialist things, right?

[1656] Everybody gets access to the fire department.

[1657] It's a part of being in the community.

[1658] We all pay for it.

[1659] Education is that way, but it should be much more funded, right?

[1660] It should be much more prestigious, much more, much better trained teachers, a more esteemed position.

[1661] I feel the same way about law enforcement.

[1662] They should be much more respected, much better trained.

[1663] We should put much more resources into that and have them be integral and a part of the community.

[1664] And for the safety of the community, not the bad guys who come in to pull you over because you rolled through a fucking stoplight, you know, that kind of shit.

[1665] Right.

[1666] And I think the problem is these people that have this idea of equal outcome, this is the worst version of all these leftist ideologies.

[1667] The worst version is open borders, everybody should have everything, and then equal distribution of it.

[1668] And then what always comes with that is they unarm the citizens.

[1669] And if they don't unarmed the citizens, you can't get away with any of this stuff.

[1670] But as soon as you have no one has guns other than the police, everybody is forced to comply.

[1671] And if the army and the police are the only ones that get to tell you what to do and they take orders from the government.

[1672] And the government is a communist dictatorship, you're fucked.

[1673] And that has never been more evident than in all the versions of it that you can see in current world politics now where a government has been taken.

[1674] taking over by a communist regime.

[1675] It's always bad.

[1676] It never turns out good.

[1677] Not a single fucking time.

[1678] People starve.

[1679] It gets horrible.

[1680] You know, there's just terrible government overreach.

[1681] You're seeing it now in England where people getting arrested for tweets.

[1682] England, you know, people talk about Soviet Russia, like how bad Russia is in terms of cracking down on thought police and cracking down on bad.

[1683] tweets and things like that.

[1684] I think the statistics are, I think England in the last, I think there's something like 4 ,000 people have been arrested in England for thought crimes where they've said things online that people find to be a hateful thing or a problematic thing.

[1685] And I think it's only 200 in Russia.

[1686] Oh, wow.

[1687] Yeah.

[1688] That says a lot.

[1689] Yeah.

[1690] Maybe in Russia they're too scared to do it at all could be yeah but the fact that they're comfortable with finding people who've said something that they disagree with them putting them in a fucking cage in england in 2024 is really wild yeah especially they're they're saying you get arrested just for retweeting something and who's to here's the problem with that even if you say yeah well people shouldn't tweet hateful hateful things i agree they shouldn't but who's to decide what is a hateful thing that's the problem that's the problem it's very subjective and it still shouldn't be a crime and And in our lifetime, we've seen that get moved, right?

[1691] So it used to be if a guy thought he was a woman and his name was Doug, and you grew up with Doug, and all of a sudden Doug wants to be called Debbie, if you call him Doug, it's no big deal.

[1692] Like, yeah, maybe you're being rude to call him Doug, but it's not a hate crime, okay?

[1693] Well, now a lot of people think it's a hate crime, and that got you banned from Twitter for life.

[1694] So if you dead named someone on the old Twitter, you were banned for life.

[1695] dead name, not even making up a name.

[1696] You can call them an idiot.

[1697] You can call someone an idiot.

[1698] Okay, forget about a man in a dress.

[1699] Maybe that's a problem.

[1700] But if you call a regular guy an idiot, you stupid fuck, fine, no problem.

[1701] But if you call Doug Doug, you will get banned for life.

[1702] Okay, that's the new hate speech.

[1703] That's crazy.

[1704] Now, if that keeps going, that didn't exist before.

[1705] If that keeps going, maybe you can go to jail for calling him Doug.

[1706] Maybe they think it's okay to put you in jail because you violated their hate speech laws.

[1707] That's how nutty things can get.

[1708] And you've also seen during COVID how ridiculous people get with cracking down and enforcing laws like that.

[1709] You know, you saw it in Australia, people getting arrested for being outside without a mask on.

[1710] Which is like the opposite of what you should be doing.

[1711] Exactly.

[1712] I mean, you should be outside, is what I'm saying.

[1713] Right.

[1714] You should be outside and you should have a mask on.

[1715] It's nonsense.

[1716] It doesn't work.

[1717] There's no evidence whatsoever that it's effective.

[1718] I thought it was funny how many people, like the mask was never intended to be protection for you.

[1719] Right.

[1720] It was to protect others around you.

[1721] But like I saw so many people.

[1722] putting it on like a shield.

[1723] It's like it doesn't, it's not a. Not only that, it's, you're using surgical masks.

[1724] Those are designed to keep people from spitting into open wounds.

[1725] Right.

[1726] Dropping particles out of their mouth into people's surgeries.

[1727] No. We're so susceptible to manipulation.

[1728] And that's what's really scary about the time that we're living in because we have so much access to information, but yet so many people are willing to put the blinders on and go full steam ahead with whatever their team wants.

[1729] you know like there was this ridiculous video the other comics for Kamala oh did you see that i know what i saw white men for Kamala was that it there's a dude's white dudes white dudes this is all organized by the way and there was a twitch streamer like one of the big time twitch streamers one of the big guys who read out what they were offering him they were offering him money to uh advocate for kamala harris online he's like i am not fucking doing this and so he's like reading this thing where they're they're offering money they're looking money they're literally paying for astroturfing.

[1730] The most egregious thing I've seen recently, you know, after everything of the past eight years, nine years, it's hard to get pissed off genuinely anymore.

[1731] But is now all the left people saying that Trump is afraid to debate Trump, or that Trump is afraid to debate Kamala.

[1732] And I saw this meme of Trump is like the cowardly lion.

[1733] Everyone's like, he's never going to show up.

[1734] It's like you said the exact same thing about Biden, the exact same thing.

[1735] And Trump went in there and just like.

[1736] Yeah, like it was, oh man, the guy who got shot in the face like two days ago and said fight, fight, fight, is scared to debate Kamala.

[1737] Yeah, it seems ridiculous.

[1738] But, you know, that's just what they do.

[1739] That's politics.

[1740] They do it on the left.

[1741] They do it on the right.

[1742] They gaslight you.

[1743] They manipulate you.

[1744] They promote narratives.

[1745] And the only one is not doing that is Robert F. Kennedy Jr. You a fan?

[1746] Yeah, I am a fan.

[1747] Yeah, he's the only one that makes sense to me. He's the only one that he doesn't attack people.

[1748] He attacks actions.

[1749] and ideas, but he's much more reasonable and intelligent.

[1750] I mean, the guy was an environmental attorney and cleaned up the East River.

[1751] He's a legitimate guy.

[1752] You know, before anybody started calling him an anti -vaxxer, which I thought he was.

[1753] I thought he was just nut, this, like, conspiracy theorist nut until I read his book.

[1754] I read the real Anthony Fauci, and I'm like, what is, how much of this is real?

[1755] Because if it's all real, this is fucking insane, and we live in a world.

[1756] where we're being manipulated by these health organizations that are being paid by the pharmaceutical drug interests.

[1757] And these pharmaceutical drug companies are pumping these products out into the population and telling us that we need them and then making insane amounts of money.

[1758] And then also the government is in on it.

[1759] And also they share a patent with Moderna.

[1760] And also they share profits.

[1761] And there's $700 million.

[1762] $700, $700, I mean, however much money was made, whatever the number is that these guys made off of these products.

[1763] Like, this is all of it is fucking crazy.

[1764] There's the revolving door between the CDC and the FDA and then these pharmaceutical drug companies.

[1765] So the people that make the regulations then go on to have these cushy jobs with the pharmaceutical drug corporations.

[1766] It's like, oh, nothing to see here.

[1767] It's like it's open.

[1768] It's right out in the open.

[1769] Right.

[1770] And when he talks about all that stuff in his book, you're just like, what the fuck, man?

[1771] If this wasn't true, he would be sued.

[1772] Yeah.

[1773] So it seems to be true.

[1774] Yeah.

[1775] And it's a scary thing because people don't want to talk about it because they don't want to be attacked.

[1776] You know, they don't want to be called an anti -vaxxer.

[1777] That's a big one.

[1778] Right.

[1779] You know.

[1780] It cracked me up how a lot of the people on the right started to despise the vaccine.

[1781] And then Trump at the same time was like, it's my vaccine, you guys.

[1782] And then he got kind of confused.

[1783] It's one of the rare times in politics that Trump, like, didn't seem sure of his course.

[1784] well I think he was proud of getting it out there warp speed yeah and he was proud that they did it we had the vaccine it was a good vaccine I don't think he knows you know I think he took it which is crazy too because the guy survived COVID he got COVID before the vaccine was developed and then he still took the vaccine which is like literally illogical like it flies in the face of science and what we understand about the immune system no but you know there's a video of Anthony Fauci from many years ago on a talk show saying someone got the flu, should they get a flu shot?

[1785] No, because if you survive the disease, if you recover from disease, you have the best protection.

[1786] He's like literally saying that.

[1787] Right.

[1788] And then, of course, that was throwing out the window when they wanted to vaccinate everybody.

[1789] Well, plus, it's not a vaccine.

[1790] Right.

[1791] A vaccine is a flu shot.

[1792] It's the equivalent of a flu shot because a vaccine means you can't get it.

[1793] Well, it's even more weird because it's MRNA, right?

[1794] So it's like this messenger RNA, it's basically gene therapy.

[1795] Like you're tricking your body into creating these antibodies.

[1796] Right.

[1797] And you're also doing a bunch of damage to some people.

[1798] Yeah.

[1799] Which is also their gaslighting about how many people are vaccine injured.

[1800] I fucking know a bunch of them.

[1801] We all do.

[1802] Yeah.

[1803] We all know somebody who got fucked up by that stuff.

[1804] It's all crazy.

[1805] What's up?

[1806] And looking into the people arrested for tweets in England thing?

[1807] Yeah.

[1808] It's a very confusing story.

[1809] So it says 3 ,395 arrests been made by 29 U .K. police forces for Section 27, or Section 127 offenses, which is used for cases of online abuse.

[1810] According to the article, 1 ,6 people were subsequently charged.

[1811] Section 127 offenses cover harassment that takes place via electronic communications network and is not limited to social media posts.

[1812] Harassment via email or other forms of online communication can also fall under this.

[1813] definition.

[1814] So this video is going around recently of the lady arresting that guy.

[1815] And this is going back to a discussion that Constantine Kizen was having on a YouTube video.

[1816] Right.

[1817] From before COVID though.

[1818] So this was all from like 2017.

[1819] Yeah, but they've been doing it for a while, yeah.

[1820] That's what I'm looking up and trying to find like I can't find any updated information that says that this is still continuing to happen except for three guys are recently arrested for like, like the Leeds riots because they were posting violent stuff on Twitter or something like that.

[1821] I know there was one guy who's posting stickers.

[1822] He got arrested for posting stickers that they said we're offensive.

[1823] It's just we take for granted what we have with the First Amendment, freedom of speech.

[1824] Yeah.

[1825] Freedom of speech is gigantic.

[1826] There's only one way you find out what's right.

[1827] You got to let people talk.

[1828] And you've got to let people, even like on X, say the wrong things or say offensive things.

[1829] you find those people you don't like them block them you don't like it don't listen don't read don't read what they're saying you know it's disturbing it is very it's very to me when i really became like hyper aware of it was um post october 7th when you see so much anti -semitism it's just like blatant out in the open and often incorrect and ignorant anti -semitism not not just like wow look at all these jewish people that are the head of these banks look at all these jewish people that are running short show business, but just ruthless, nasty anti -Semitism out in the open, and then people agreeing with it out in the open, like, ugh, like, this is crazy.

[1830] Well, it's because it's coming from one protected class to another, is how I see that.

[1831] Because, I mean, like, you know, obviously if that was a stance of the right, it would be immediately called out as evil as it is.

[1832] Right, right, it's not, right?

[1833] It's the stance of the left, which is fascinating.

[1834] That's why those, when those heads of universities were getting grilled, and they were talking about whether or not saying death to the Jews is harassment at MIT or at Harvard, rather, and she was saying, well, if it's actionable.

[1835] So, you're saying you actually, you got to wait until they do it?

[1836] You got to wait until they commit genocide before it's a problem.

[1837] Yeah.

[1838] That's pretty nuts.

[1839] It's nuts.

[1840] Yeah, it's nuts.

[1841] but it's also, it's like, you know, this is the consequences of having these rigid ideologies where you think that your side has to be correct and the other side is incorrect.

[1842] And if you think, you know, free, free Palestine, this is what we're into.

[1843] So, like, the people that are the most radical that are pushing that the furthest, like the Antifa of that organization are the death of the Jews people.

[1844] They're the ones that are going to take, like, remember during the George Ford riots and the Antifa riots, like people on the left sided with violent.

[1845] mobs and tried to gaslight you on what they did.

[1846] They said they're mostly peaceful demonstrations.

[1847] As the camera's panning around trying not to get something engulfed in flames.

[1848] Yeah, it's crazy.

[1849] That's gaslighting.

[1850] But the reason why is because those are the people that are going to crack heads and get things done for our side.

[1851] That's the implication.

[1852] The implication is we are on the left and the most violent and aggressive people on the left, they're going to push the envelope.

[1853] They're going to get things done.

[1854] So they're mostly doing good.

[1855] They're mostly peaceful.

[1856] Yeah, well, I think that shame of is that, like, I don't know, BLM, like, now it's pretty well understood that they were legit a scam.

[1857] Yeah, they made a lot of money, they bought a lot of real estate.

[1858] They bought, like, six mansions and a bunch of cars, and then they disbanded, you know?

[1859] Yeah.

[1860] And it's sad.

[1861] Like, have you seen the exterminator footage?

[1862] There was this exterminator, white guy, literally got handcuffed and shot by the police on camera in a hotel.

[1863] For what?

[1864] So he...

[1865] Oh, you mean the guy that's in Phoenix?

[1866] I don't know where it was.

[1867] he's crawling along the hallway and the guy tells his pants are dropping down and the cop shoots him no i don't think so this is a guy who he had like he was an exterminator and he had a pellet gun and he was putting it yeah that that's it yeah it's in a hotel yeah yeah it's in a hotel i just i remember that and like that's one of the most disturbing uh -huh what i'm trying to say is that if you're trying to solve the problem of police overstep looking at it through a racial lens isn't going to solve it because that's not the problem right because it happens to white people it happens still a lot of people right so you can't just blanket statement with it saying that it's about one particular group well i think it was one of those moments in history where one thing sets off and there's a bunch of tension that's like at the surface racial tension and then one thing sets it off and then there's this narrative and then there's through social media you get all these examples that you see over and over and over again of white cops shooting black people.

[1868] Yeah.

[1869] And so people have it in their mind that black people are unjustly harassed and are attacked more than anyone else.

[1870] And that's why that professor at Harvard who released that study showing that there is not a difference, there's not a disparity, racial disparity in the way black people are assaulted or are shot by cops versus white people.

[1871] And people attacked him.

[1872] right because they don't want their narratives destroyed the problem is bad cops right of course that's the problem and the problem is sociopaths that become police officers this problem is cops with PTSD the problem is just like you can have you can have bad anything in any walk of life you can have a bad doctor you can have a bad football coach you can have a bad cop and the bad cops are a real fucking problem they wind up shooting people that shouldn't be shot they they're they're fucking crazy they've lost their soul you know the aliens wouldn't want them as a container.

[1873] No, they wouldn't.

[1874] No. The alien thing is crazy if that's, if what we're talking about when we talk about, like, save our souls, like, that we think about having, like, your essence is negative and evil.

[1875] And that negative evil essence, they're trying to minimize the amount of those.

[1876] Like, if your crop has, like, a disease, if, like, some sort of a thing is.

[1877] some fungus is growing on your crop you're going to destroy most of the crop like what do we have to do to protect the crop when we give the crop religion let's let's keep these mind viruses from destroying us let's keep you know war at a minimum let's keep these people from doing things that are unethical and immoral because they actually do damage the thing that we need the most that's inside of it right have you ever had any sort of an alien experience yeah actually Um, my roommate and I, this was at, uh, my college, Ripin College, uh, we were on this place, uh, like, that's basically just a balcony.

[1878] And we just saw, it was like 3 a .m. We were, uh, drank a lot that night and we're having our last cigarette at the night.

[1879] And we just saw one triangle with red dots appear way in the distance.

[1880] And it was by a radio tower.

[1881] which I only mentioned because it's easy to say then you saw the radio tower.

[1882] If it's like, no, the radio tower was clear.

[1883] And then we watched it for like two minutes and then another one appeared right next to it.

[1884] And then they both disappeared.

[1885] And it wasn't really a big deal at the time.

[1886] And it still isn't now.

[1887] But it was something.

[1888] Man, it was really something.

[1889] When you say it wasn't a big deal, what do you mean?

[1890] Like, we weren't like agitated.

[1891] Like, you know, it wasn't like it was more just like, that's nuts like it it wasn't well you're probably a little drunk still too right yeah oh yeah yeah yeah but you all saw the same thing oh yeah how many guys just two of us and uh it was very far away did anybody else see it was there any other reports not that i know of i never looked into it and so it was very far away and how did it move didn't move we just hovered we know i don't know if the first one appeared or not um or if i was always there but like i think he saw it first and I looked and I was like, what is that?

[1892] Because it was dark, but you couldn't see stars behind it.

[1893] You know, so, like, there was obviously something in between the three red lights.

[1894] And then the second one appeared overlapping it.

[1895] So, like, in front of it.

[1896] And then they both just disappeared.

[1897] Yeah.

[1898] Just blinked out of existence?

[1899] We didn't see them leave.

[1900] So just you were staring at it and all of a sudden it was gone?

[1901] Correct.

[1902] And did you both say, oh, shit, it's gone?

[1903] I don't even remember.

[1904] Wow It was something though I have it I have photos of it On an old blackberry Really?

[1905] Yeah But how blurry are they Very blurry They just look like nothing What's the best photo Of a UFO It's ever been taken I mean I don't know There's a bunch of old ones From like the 1960s I think They think are straight horse shit Yeah There's this one guy Who kept encountering them And it looks like Hubcaps and stuff That he's thrown in the sky No. It could have been that, I don't know, I don't know specifics of photos.

[1906] Did you ever see the Mexico City footage?

[1907] I don't even know why.

[1908] That made me think of signs, the movie.

[1909] Yeah.

[1910] It's my favorite movie of all time.

[1911] It's a good movie.

[1912] The Mexico City UFO footage is interesting because it's in Mexico City and you see this thing flying and you see it like in the distance as it's going past these buildings.

[1913] And you're like, what the fuck is that?

[1914] And it's seen by thousands and thousands of people.

[1915] I would imagine that.

[1916] the best one is the Phoenix lights that's kind of yeah clearest UFO photo ever taken was hidden from the public for three decades the Calvin photograph taken by two hikers in the Scottish highlands the pictures handed over to the Ministry of Defense and was hidden from the public for more than three decades the unbelievable images show a diamond shaped object hovering in the sky hmm it looks like a saucer it looks like it's just pointing at the top like doesn't it look like it would be circular why do they think it's diamond shaped oh okay that way it looks diamond shaped is that a photo that's the photo holy crap yeah wild huh that is very wild yeah it does look like it'd be circular I mean it's hard to say what the fuck that is go back to that other one with this I think that the top one is like enhanced there's some descriptions about it and eyewitnesses that saw it too I was trying to read what it said.

[1917] This right here says there's something fishy here.

[1918] I didn't get to it.

[1919] Right.

[1920] It says it hovered for 10 minutes, shot upwards, which is right before.

[1921] Before disappearing.

[1922] Negatives of the picture dubbed the Calveen photographer originally handed over Scotland's daily record newspaper who in turn passed them to the Ministry of Defense.

[1923] However, they were never shown to the public.

[1924] After decades of research photos uncovered by academic and journalist Dr. David Clark.

[1925] Dr. Clark reached out to, Clark is spelled in two different ways right there.

[1926] This website might suck.

[1927] See, he's got an E in the first one, and then afterwards is no E. As the story goes, that Dr. Clark reached out to Craig Lindsay, former Royal Air Force Press Officer, who had kept a copy of the photo after the story was looked into back in the 90s.

[1928] Lindsay even kept the original envelope containing their carving photos in his possession.

[1929] Hmm That's the dude That dude looks like you might sell you a bad car For instance An astronomer's left a maze by a UFO Caught flying across the moon What the fuck's that?

[1930] Click on that Okay So he's looking at through a telescope What's you see?

[1931] Did you see that?

[1932] What?

[1933] I did see that Oh yeah Happened fast Right I mean there's a lot of space Between his telescope and the moon Yeah that could be satellites right It says not the ISS.

[1934] Okay.

[1935] Maybe it's another satellite.

[1936] Or?

[1937] Or.

[1938] Maybe it's UFO.

[1939] Aliens.

[1940] Yeah.

[1941] Or UFOs.

[1942] UFO.

[1943] UAPs.

[1944] Yeah.

[1945] Why did they change that?

[1946] Did UFO have a stink to it?

[1947] I think it was so Hillary Clinton had a sound bite.

[1948] Really?

[1949] Do you remember when she was the one who announced it?

[1950] Oh.

[1951] That they changed the name?

[1952] Yeah.

[1953] She was the first one to do it.

[1954] Have you seen that clip where she's like, UAPs, actually?

[1955] No. I haven't.

[1956] All of it's weird.

[1957] It is weird.

[1958] It's a waste of time, you know, because if there's no real evidence in front of you, you're just sitting around here spinning your wheels, having stupid conversations about it.

[1959] Oh, what happened?

[1960] What's that one about?

[1961] Hillary's not promising to tell the truth about UFOs back in 2016.

[1962] She was just trying to get elected.

[1963] Maybe if she won, she would have told us.

[1964] There was Charlemagne The God You think she smells like sulfur?

[1965] I do No, I don't Have you seen the remake The Alex Jones remake of that song?

[1966] Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah That's like the best thing I've ever seen.

[1967] It's amazing, yeah, it's amazing When he goes on that rant And they turn it into a song Yeah, yeah It's easy to get very cynical About our world now It is terrible I think that's also a feature of this whole UFO thing is that people want the UFOs to come and save us because they think we're fucked.

[1968] I think that extraterrestrials, if they exist, are evil.

[1969] Really?

[1970] I do.

[1971] Really?

[1972] Well, I mean, if you look at the lion's share of abduction reports, they're all really nasty.

[1973] Yeah, there's always an anal probe and weird being paralyzed on an operating table.

[1974] Yeah.

[1975] But also it's like you've got to imagine the, fear that a person would have it's it's not evil in terms of like they don't get killed right so they get released they get returned but they have this terrifying and frightening experience so you got to imagine that just being taking aboard a UFO even if they're being kind to you would be fucking horrific you'd be so scared that you would kind of assume that they were negative right well according to dr. Carla Turner so she she has three rules or ten rules about UFO abductions the first one is that we don't actually know what they are.

[1976] So aliens are extra -terrestrial or carbon or terrestrial, aliens, interdimensional or something else entirely.

[1977] And the second rule is that they lie about their origin.

[1978] And because they've given lots of places and none of them panned out apparently.

[1979] And then the third rule is that they're full of shit and that they have total control.

[1980] over the abductee.

[1981] So, like, you only remember what you want or what they wanted you to remember.

[1982] And, like, it's nuts because, so she was like a doctor of language, nothing to do with aliens or anything, until in 1991 they let her remember that she's been abducted all her life.

[1983] Whoa.

[1984] Yeah.

[1985] And then, strangely enough, same thing happened to her husband.

[1986] He remembered that he'd been abducted all of his life.

[1987] And evidently, they told her something, like, why do you?

[1988] you think you guys married each other.

[1989] And the implication was that it was just convenient for the aliens.

[1990] Whoa.

[1991] I know.

[1992] And it's so weird because, like, you can watch her lectures.

[1993] They're mostly blacklisted, but there are ways to find them even on YouTube.

[1994] And...

[1995] Does she seem rational?

[1996] She seems so rational.

[1997] And she just has this sweet, she's not old, but kind of an old lady voice.

[1998] And she talked extensively about how all these abductees have terrible traumas left from it, even if they have positive memories of the abductions.

[1999] Right, just because the subconscious probably has.

[2000] Correct.

[2001] And that a lot of them have terrible issues of cancer, and then she dies of cancer everywhere in 1998.

[2002] Oh.

[2003] Yeah.

[2004] I only discovered her a little while ago, and it was very disturbing stuff, like really disturbing stuff.

[2005] Wow.

[2006] Tucker Carlson seems to believe they're, they've always been here.

[2007] He doesn't think they're coming here from another planet.

[2008] I think that that might be more likely.

[2009] He thinks that they're in the Bible, that this is something that's a feature of human history, that people have always discussed, like, these beings, these things that are with us, and that somehow another, they're able to evade our detection on a regular basis, however that is.

[2010] But he thinks they're like angels and devils.

[2011] Well, I'm sure that's the words we used for them.

[2012] I mean, have you read the angel description?

[2013] Like it's a wheel with 16 eyes or something?

[2014] That's Ezekiel.

[2015] Yeah.

[2016] Like that's a bizarre way to describe an angel.

[2017] Yeah.

[2018] I don't know what he's describing.

[2019] I think he's describing a craft.

[2020] And by eyes, he means like censors or something.

[2021] Like the translation got wonky.

[2022] That's the problem, right?

[2023] The problem is the translations.

[2024] First of all, you have to think that a lot of those stories were told for hundreds, if not thousands of years before they were ever written down.

[2025] Sure.

[2026] And then they're told.

[2027] and written down in Aramaic they're written down in ancient Hebrew and then they're translated they're translated to Greek Roman or Latin rather they're translated to English French German a lot is lost I mean a lot is lost you translate Russian to English today right you know like if you see a Russian I see a Russian post sometimes on Twitter and I'll hit translate and I'm like oh look at wacky it kind of puts it together you know it kind of puts it together in a wacky way and that's common that is but that's a language that we're well aware of millions of people speak Russian millions of people speak English this is the best we could do right and still the telephone game yeah still so now imagine a time with no science no real understanding of what you know the forces they're at work in terms of like natural selection and all the different things space and all the things that we're aware of today the things that we do know and imagine these people are writing down these stories about the origins of humanity and the origins of mankind.

[2028] And I think there's some truth to what they're writing.

[2029] There's something to it.

[2030] I've always said that about the Big Bang.

[2031] Like the beginning of the Bible was, in the beginning there was light.

[2032] Boy, that sounds a lot like a Big Bang.

[2033] Sure does.

[2034] What is that?

[2035] If I was going to tell you the story of the Big Bang and then you told other people for like a thousand years and then finally somebody writes it down, what do you think that would look like?

[2036] Probably in the beginning there was light, you know?

[2037] What is it?

[2038] They say, theologians need many miracles, creation, or evolution, Richard Dawkins type people, only need one.

[2039] Yeah.

[2040] The Big Bang.

[2041] Yeah.

[2042] How did it happen?

[2043] Oh.

[2044] But it just did.

[2045] Yeah.

[2046] And it created everything that we see.

[2047] Like, okay.

[2048] And doesn't Sir Roger Penrose, doesn't he believe that that wasn't the beginning of the universe now?

[2049] I think Roger Penrose has a completely different theory about that now, which is fascinating.

[2050] Yeah, my brain's not big enough for that stuff.

[2051] I don't think anyone's is.

[2052] That's part of the problem.

[2053] Well, but, like, I acknowledge it, and I don't, so I don't even care.

[2054] Right.

[2055] Like, that doesn't interest me. Like, I'm too fascinated by the smaller level.

[2056] I don't need the overarching giant one.

[2057] I need it all.

[2058] You need it all.

[2059] I mean, I'm just, it's all interesting to think about.

[2060] It's like, occasionally I want to ponder.

[2061] How does this thing just expand to some insane point and then come back?

[2062] What was before the Big Bang?

[2063] the theory of Roger Penrose.

[2064] Attempt to answer the question what was before the Big Bang led last year's Nobel Prize winner Roger Penrose to an interesting cosmological concept in which our universe is just one link in an endless chain of predecessors and descendants.

[2065] I mean, why not?

[2066] Why not?

[2067] If there is a Big Bang, why not a series of them?

[2068] Why not an infinite number of different possibilities that these things could play out in?

[2069] I mean, it's all theoretical, though.

[2070] Right.

[2071] part of the problem.

[2072] So like none of it, I don't know, it doesn't mean anything.

[2073] Right, in terms of your real world.

[2074] Right.

[2075] Well, I mean, it does, everything mean something.

[2076] Yeah, I mean something.

[2077] But you're, yeah, I mean, you're basically just spinning your wheels, just like you're spinning your wheels thinking about aliens.

[2078] It's like, we're just kind of spinning our wheels.

[2079] That's true.

[2080] Yeah.

[2081] That's true.

[2082] Until we're not.

[2083] Yeah.

[2084] Until they go.

[2085] That's the other theories that they're giving us a slow trickle of disclosure.

[2086] Yeah, but why would they care?

[2087] So that we're accustomed to it.

[2088] So civilization doesn't collapse.

[2089] So the stock market doesn't crash so that we don't, you know, click off World War III.

[2090] Did you mean humans are giving us a slow trip?

[2091] Yes, that's what I mean.

[2092] Yeah, no, that's fair.

[2093] Yeah, that's, I mean, um, have you ever read any of Diana Posulka's work?

[2094] Very interesting.

[2095] And she's a religious scholar and her, her, um, take on this is very similar to like a lot of what Tucker Carlson saying.

[2096] And one of the things that she said with talking to people that, uh, especially Gary Nolan from Stanford, these people that have examined materials that these materials like whatever the fuck this stuff is made out of is not something that we make we can't make it or if we did make it it would cost hundreds of billions of dollars or some whatever the number is some insane amount of money to create these composites whatever this some sort of whatever their metallurgy examinations of this stuff is and that they describe these things as donations these crashed crafts that like a donation like that they these race, this race of super intelligent beings, hey, figure this out.

[2097] Like, you know, you leave a 57 Camaro in the fucking, or a 57 Chevy in a parking lot somewhere.

[2098] And then people stumble upon and go, what is this?

[2099] What is it?

[2100] What's that?

[2101] Is it a tire?

[2102] Oh, if you get wheels and tires, oh, I can you get it to roll.

[2103] Right.

[2104] Oh, the engine fires.

[2105] It spins this thing that is the transmission and it causes the wheels to the, we can make one of these.

[2106] And that's what they do.

[2107] And this is the Bob Lazar thing.

[2108] Like Bob Lazar said that one of the, in this, all these classified documents that related to these UFOs, he said one of them, they said, was from an archaeological dig.

[2109] That's the problem, right?

[2110] It's all nonsense.

[2111] We're sitting here just wasting time.

[2112] We could be very productive with our lives.

[2113] Yeah.

[2114] Instead of we're talking about UFOs.

[2115] Yeah.

[2116] I mean, you're doing all right, I think.

[2117] What else are you making videos about?

[2118] Anything interesting you got coming up?

[2119] I'm doing sharks because sharks are cool.

[2120] Who doesn't love sharks?

[2121] I'm doing a dream.

[2122] A dream one?

[2123] Yeah, about a dream I had.

[2124] Lanky gray aliens, but I finished that one already.

[2125] Yeah, I saw that one today.

[2126] Yeah.

[2127] Do you watch it?

[2128] Yeah.

[2129] Oh.

[2130] Is that your dream?

[2131] Yeah, that was me. So you've had this recurring dream of Lanky Gray aliens?

[2132] No, lanky gray aliens are just, like, a figment of my imagination and my, like, you know, bogeymen that kids have that's, like, just in your liminal, is that the word liminal?

[2133] Subliminal?

[2134] No. A liminal space.

[2135] Oh, okay.

[2136] Like, if there's, like, did you have a basement when you were a kid?

[2137] Yes.

[2138] Okay.

[2139] Did you ever have to, like, turn the switch off somewhere and then go up the stairs?

[2140] No. Okay, well, I had that.

[2141] And then, like, when it's the fear of what, where you can.

[2142] can't see right and i think everyone has a distinct thing that their brain imagines that's pretty terrifying mine were always lanky gray aliens but if it's always this one thing yeah isn't that weird if you wonder if these people are saying that their memories are erased and then you do have an encounter or you do have a a sighting of a thing i i so i never gave that any thought whatsoever until i saw uh gary nolan's that's his name right nolan his speech or his talk on like new channel seven news or something and he described this electric feeling that he experienced um after something uh this is how you connect is what he said and that's literally the only thing of that entire video that ever that made me like oh because i remember that i had this weird weird ass dream about a gray and then after that dream i was just like i remember feeling very electric that i am not saying that i had an alien encounter i'm not i'm truly not But that did give me pause.

[2143] Excuse me. I keep burping.

[2144] It's really embarrassing.

[2145] But it's interesting to me that these things always happen while people are sleeping or they always happen at night.

[2146] Which is when the dream state happens.

[2147] And like, so what is the dream state?

[2148] Dreams are bizarre.

[2149] Like, we have this very realistic thing that we're experiencing that we don't really understand.

[2150] And we sort of just accept that we have this wild, imaginary experience that seems realistic.

[2151] And you wake up, you're like, oh, my God, you can't believe this dream.

[2152] I had so nutty like what is that like what is this thing this different than any other sort of imaginary thing that you experience in your life all the imaginary things that you experience in your life are like they're easily written off for the most part but dreams seem hyper realistic sometimes they sure do and you have to remember oh this is a dream I had one last night where I woke up and I was like oh that's a dream like what the fuck is that about how weird they seem like real experiences while they're happening right and if you're having dreams that seem like real experiences and they're recurring and they're involving extraterrestrials and you've had this sighting and there is this understanding that they could manipulate what you remember and don't remember you can kind of mind -fuck yourself into thinking you're getting abducted that's why i don't think i was because to think because to think that you were or to think that you have been abducted is I feel like, I don't, it's strange, like, because I don't, like, I don't feel like I've been abducted.

[2153] Like, I don't feel like a weirdo.

[2154] I feel like you've been abducted.

[2155] Do you?

[2156] I don't know.

[2157] It's just fun to say.

[2158] It is.

[2159] It is.

[2160] But, yeah, I don't know.

[2161] That wasn't, it.

[2162] So, if there are people who are, like, suggestable and think they've been abducted, right?

[2163] Then what I am describing is a good case study in that.

[2164] I think that's a factor for sure.

[2165] Yeah.

[2166] Well, that's a factor, too, with memories.

[2167] Like, people can place memories.

[2168] into a person.

[2169] Right.

[2170] And also, people can distort their own memories over time and then have this, like, very rigid memory of a thing, and you have it completely wrong.

[2171] That's very common, I'd imagine.

[2172] Very common, right?

[2173] Which is why the mind is such a bizarre thing in the first place, because it's how you formulate your view of reality, but it lies to you.

[2174] Right.

[2175] Well, but they're hopefully useful lies.

[2176] Yeah, hopefully, but sometimes not, you know?

[2177] Sometimes people have a very bad version of themselves.

[2178] from memories like they're maybe they have a lot of self -hate or a lot of self -doubt and then they connect these memories to themselves and they distort themselves and make themselves even worse right yeah so hopefully it's I mean hopefully it's beneficial but sometimes it's not well it has to exist from an evolutionary perspective I'd imagine that I mean that serves a purpose that's not random probably right if you if you're remembering yourself is doing something obnoxious or stupid that's because the essence of you doing that is true And now you're ideally supposed to over -correct or supposed to correct that.

[2179] Right, right.

[2180] It's a lesson that you can learn from that.

[2181] Right.

[2182] Yeah.

[2183] But you're right.

[2184] If it just may cripples you emotionally, it doesn't do any good.

[2185] Well, it's just fascinating that this animal, this calculating animal, it's like constantly forming images of what's real and what's not real.

[2186] And, you know, and what it is and it's looking at itself in some sort of a strange way and trying to examine how it fits into the world.

[2187] Which is impossible for it to do.

[2188] So it's like an exercise of torture Yeah And yet we all engage in it Constantly Yeah Any other things you're working on Before we wrap this up?

[2189] No I'm Trying to get a book published Oh yeah?

[2190] On what?

[2191] It's a novel So everyone All my subscribers would hate it I don't think so I do Why do they don't hate it Because it's not about Bigfoot or anything What's it about?

[2192] Well It's a, it's high fantasy.

[2193] High fantasy?

[2194] High fantasy.

[2195] What does that mean?

[2196] Wizards.

[2197] Oh.

[2198] Knights.

[2199] Lord of the Rings type stuff.

[2200] That sounds fun.

[2201] People love that shit.

[2202] Yeah.

[2203] But there are two protagonists who are gay because I am gay.

[2204] So there's that.

[2205] And I think, I don't think that'll, I sent.

[2206] There's plenty of gay people.

[2207] Yeah.

[2208] There's plenty of people that don't care if someone's gay.

[2209] Why would that be bad?

[2210] I don't look at it all negative Yeah, maybe Look, man, it sounds like fun Look, people love those kind of fantasy Type books and Think about the Hobbit, Lord of the Rings No, I am aware Game of Thrones Like people love that shit All the agents, they want magical realism Magical realism What is that?

[2211] That'd be like Twilight Like when magic Ingrains in the real world Oh, that's interesting Magical Real Which is an oxymoron So instead of a fantasy world like Lord of the Rings they want it in the modern world a realistic modern world but with magic correct fuck them even though none of the big sellers of all time are that way well a few of them are but isn't that funny yeah like just the weird gatekeepers it's almost like you should write it on your own and not even talk about it right and then get it to where you're done with it and then just try to pitch it right well don't let anybody I have been pitching it oh you have are you done oh yeah I'm done and I've got it proofread by I paid for an editor and all that good stuff.

[2212] Oh, wow.

[2213] So you self -published the whole thing?

[2214] No, it's not published.

[2215] Self -wrote the whole thing and did it all yourself without a deal.

[2216] Yes, correct.

[2217] I mean, a lot of times people get contracted.

[2218] Yeah, no. But, like, I gave up because it was like every day I was getting an email back from someone telling me my kid was ugly.

[2219] And I couldn't do it, and it was just too depressing.

[2220] Well, maybe you should self -publish.

[2221] Like, there's a lot of people publish things just on Amazon, right?

[2222] I have pride.

[2223] Oh, you need to be with a legit publisher?

[2224] I do.

[2225] I would rather wait.

[2226] I'm actually very young by publishing standards.

[2227] How old are you?

[2228] 33.

[2229] Oh, wow.

[2230] So you've been doing this YouTube page for a long -ass time.

[2231] So you were like 21, 22?

[2232] Yeah.

[2233] Wow.

[2234] Yeah.

[2235] That's cool, man. Yeah, it is cool.

[2236] And I had other jobs most of the time.

[2237] I only recently started doing the channel full -time.

[2238] Oh, so now it's your full -time gig?

[2239] How recent?

[2240] Like two years ago.

[2241] So you basically, like, get ad revenue and stuff like that, so many.

[2242] Well, it's very good, dude.

[2243] It's fun.

[2244] It's really fun.

[2245] Like I said, it makes me feel like old -timey radio, you know, like I'm hearing the spooky store.

[2246] I've listened to quite a few of them actually in my car, you know, where it's just like you have all the animations and like the Bigfoot one I listened to in my car.

[2247] Yeah.

[2248] The one where I was reaching in and hitting the light switch and the laugh.

[2249] It's fun.

[2250] That is.

[2251] It's fun stuff, man. Scary.

[2252] Tell everybody your YouTube channel so they could find you.

[2253] My channel name is Bob Gimlin, B -O -B -G -Y -M -L -A -N.

[2254] And do you have Instagram or?

[2255] No, nothing?

[2256] No, and I don't want it either.

[2257] Good for you.

[2258] No. Good for you, man. That's rare amongst young people.

[2259] I just want to make my videos and that's it.

[2260] Good.

[2261] Don't read the comments either.

[2262] I do.

[2263] It's, I do all the time.

[2264] It's so depressing.

[2265] You don't need to read them.

[2266] How many subscribers do you have now?

[2267] I think 239.

[2268] Yeah, once you get over 100 ,000, you got to stop reading them.

[2269] Yeah.

[2270] Too many humans.

[2271] Too many opinions.

[2272] Too many crazy people.

[2273] Too many mind viruses that can get into your head.

[2274] They get you.

[2275] I enjoy it, though.

[2276] I think your channel's very good.

[2277] It's very interesting.

[2278] I like your calm voice through the whole thing.

[2279] Yeah.

[2280] It's really good, dude.

[2281] Good stuff.

[2282] So thanks for being here.

[2283] Appreciate it.

[2284] Good luck.

[2285] Best luck in the future.

[2286] Thank you.

[2287] And good luck with your book.

[2288] Thank you.

[2289] All right.

[2290] Bye, everybody.

[2291] Bye.