Matthew McConaughey Returns

[0] Do I do this last time?

[1] Oh, maybe, but it's found to happen.

[2] Mr. Dax, hold on, let me just, hey, I'm going to get my body.

[3] Is he far?

[4] No, I was just getting my body.

[5] You know, he gets his body kind of right.

[6] He does a while to work with his body.

[7] Oh.

[8] You notice that right, the way he moves.

[9] Yeah, he does.

[10] Yeah, he does.

[11] Yeah, he gets himself like, he likes to be like this.

[12] Welcome, welcome, welcome to armchair expert with Mr. Dax's, Mrs. Monica.

[13] So I guess you know what guests we have on today.

[14] Dax, Mr. Dax, going to swing by the Matthew McConaughey show.

[15] Don't worry, guys.

[16] Don't worry.

[17] This comes up.

[18] I ask Matthew how he feels about my impersonation of him.

[19] So don't worry.

[20] Don't you worry.

[21] Don't you worry.

[22] This will be very satisfying in the end.

[23] Matthew McConaughey has an incredible event.

[24] he's putting on it's free it's a free event called the art of living with matthew mccaneh and special guests and he's putting it on with eight other folks and it's going to be a big buck t robins is involved t robs yep it's incredible so we get to have them back again and it delivered once again a fun rabbit hole with mr mccanahey he takes me on a spiritual ride when he's talking i noticed it was happening to you too getting sucked into the vortex i saw you like rolling on the river of what he was saying because I was on it too.

[25] Yeah.

[26] He'll take you places.

[27] In fact, he was taking me places and I was expecting to look over at you and see you skeptically not in it and I looked over and you were grooving and it was so clear.

[28] You were like nodding your head like in places I knew you might question otherwise.

[29] Like yes.

[30] Yes, I get it.

[31] Yes.

[32] Totally.

[33] Oh my God, what a fun ride he took us on.

[34] Please enjoy Matthew McConaughey.

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[38] He's an armchair expert.

[39] Hello.

[40] Yeah.

[41] Uh -huh.

[42] Take it in.

[43] How are we doing?

[44] Do y 'all play Werdle?

[45] Occasionally.

[46] Yeah, same.

[47] I kind of dropped off, but I was really into it.

[48] I have not dropped off of Wordle or Candy Crush.

[49] Oh, Candy Crush.

[50] Have you fucked with the math one?

[51] There's one that's math equations.

[52] Oh, really?

[53] I read Bill Gates loves it, so I'm like, I've got to check this out.

[54] And it's similar to Wordle.

[55] You've got to come up with the equation that would give you the answer, and you get five.

[56] It's called like Quirtle or something.

[57] My kids trying to get me on Foodell.

[58] What's that?

[59] It's like food, five -letter, you know, pasta.

[60] Oh.

[61] Where are you?

[62] at.

[63] I love this room.

[64] It's wood floor to ceiling.

[65] Gorgeous.

[66] Look, floor to ceiling in my office slash media room.

[67] You get a little background peek since I don't have it on portrait mode and that kind of thing.

[68] Do you have a pool back there?

[69] I see a little blue.

[70] I see some water or something blew out the sliding door.

[71] That's actually a pot.

[72] A potter pot for a potter plant.

[73] Oh, oh, oh, oh.

[74] Can I just say you look gorgeous?

[75] Oh, thank you, man. What do you have for breakfast?

[76] Shrooms, boomers.

[77] Yes.

[78] Had your apertures open.

[79] Get them pupils wide.

[80] Don't miss a thing.

[81] Hey.

[82] I love it.

[83] But you do, your fucking skin looks so hydrated and lovely.

[84] And I was going to ask you this later in the interview, but I am dying to know, A, how's aging going?

[85] What do you notice?

[86] Do you have a game plan?

[87] What do you do?

[88] Good question.

[89] And I hear you, man. It seems to me this agent thing, right?

[90] It's like, how do you do it graciously, but how do you deny it?

[91] And there's some awkward ways to deny it.

[92] We've all seen it.

[93] You're like going, oh, you shouldn't have taken two of those.

[94] Yep.

[95] Like Putin's face.

[96] You look at Putin's face and you're like, who, there's a jug.

[97] There's a jug of filler in there.

[98] Yeah.

[99] For instance, I blew both my knees out a couple years ago.

[100] And my son's 12, good athlete.

[101] It's obviously beating me in sports, right?

[102] And so I get surgery.

[103] They're better.

[104] but I'm not back to where I was, and he's still kind of beating me in a lot of things.

[105] But I chose to go, I'm not ready to accept that fact, Chad.

[106] So I went into hardcore rehab and really worked on my knees, got him back, and now it's arguable.

[107] Yeah.

[108] At least I'm back competing.

[109] He's better in some, but I'm still whooping him, so I wasn't ready to concede.

[110] Look, my hair, we've talked about that before.

[111] In 1999, I didn't have any of this, and I had a silver dollar bald on top.

[112] And I went like, go graciously, be all face.

[113] Hold out all that big be old face.

[114] Be all face.

[115] That's a great phrase.

[116] But I remember going, wait a minute, I'm not ready to go quietly into the night on this.

[117] You know, I considered like hair plugs.

[118] I was like, I don't want to do that.

[119] None of those look that good.

[120] So I found this topical treat.

[121] But I've talked about it meantime, Regenix.

[122] And I started working on it topically.

[123] And son of a bitch, I have better hairline now than I did 99.

[124] So I still use it daily.

[125] I'm not going to quit and see if it's all going to stick.

[126] And then what am I fight?

[127] Do I wish you had more energy in the afternoon?

[128] Do I wish you didn't have that little lull?

[129] I'm trying to get off coffee, even though it's the best in the morning.

[130] It steals energy from your afternoon.

[131] The other thing I do, which I'm told is specific, that is helpful that I've always done, is I average a nine and a half hour sleep a night.

[132] Okay, you're able to go a full nine and a half.

[133] You're not waking up nonstop to pee and stuff?

[134] One whiz in the night, and that's it.

[135] And you drop right back into your slumber when you hit the rack?

[136] Yeah.

[137] Okay, that might be a mental disqual.

[138] disposition.

[139] You don't get anxiety in the middle of the night.

[140] Do you wake up ruminating on ideas or concerns?

[141] I do good ideas, which is why I like to have a drink at night, too, just to slow the thoughts down, you know?

[142] I'm like, whoa, let's get those in half because that's what'll get me up is ideas.

[143] Or right now I got this freaking song stuck on my head.

[144] So every thought and every dream is going to the beat of that song.

[145] I know, la lay it back.

[146] I'm like, I love a song, but that's enough.

[147] Yeah, yeah.

[148] Slow it down and get a little orchestral thoughts.

[149] I'm on testosterone.

[150] Okay.

[151] How's that going?

[152] I love it.

[153] I started five years ago, and I got to say, five years ago, I was sincerely thinking, that was a good time.

[154] I liked show business.

[155] I think it might be time for me to relax and do my hobbies for the rest of my life.

[156] How much money do I have?

[157] How do I make this work?

[158] And harder to keep muscle on, all that kind of.

[159] stuff so i have a couple friends on it i tried it and honestly three months later this podcast was started i was in two different tv shows i'm hungry let's devour let's conquer i love the physical benefits but yeah i fucking love it so energy went up engagement what else the fire you know remember when you were 14 and you get your friend on the phone and be like let's meet in this field i'll bring matches you bring WD40 that hunger to get out and explore returned get down how's your hairline hairline's great so listen to this i was on propitia forever like you about 20 years ago i'm doing the pilot for punk i'm in a hotel room in Vegas i've never seen the back of my head there's mirrors everywhere i'm taking a shit right before i go on camera first time in my life on camera and i go oh oh what is that it's dicey back there was on propitia for i guess 20 years then i had humberman i had him on he's like stop taking that it's a dhd testosterone blocker use it topically just get off that and put a topical blocker on which i've switched to and that's working because that's what that propitial do it'll hold what you got and those little thin blondies will start to get a little darker root and become thicker yes so i've been off the propitia for like a year and a half and then I got all the dh t I want which is the best testosterone it doesn't convert to estrogen it's what you want so your dh t obviously for five years the residuals have been good for it you didn't go into the debit section anywhere and you're not buying credit from the future with it now in your opinion no but i'm open to the notion there will be some longevity concerns and i just really had the talk with myself do i want 30 years i enjoy or 35 i kind of want to be retired?

[160] Like, how am I evaluating life?

[161] No, I hear you.

[162] Because we're kind of hardwired to just think, like, you got to go as far as you can, but I don't know.

[163] This quantity race, I got real questions about it, man. We're all drinking the Kool -Aid on Moore's better.

[164] I've got a theory I'm working on now called the other 359, meaning there's 360 degrees, right?

[165] And the one lane is straight up.

[166] That's the vertical lane where all the traffic is.

[167] Quantities king.

[168] That's the definition of more.

[169] And all these other lanes, there's not near as much traffic, but they can give you much more quality.

[170] You can scale outward.

[171] You can dig your deeper roots downward.

[172] If the quantity we're chasing doesn't give us more quality of life, then we're using the wrong calculator.

[173] But we're told, highest number, tallest tower, that's it.

[174] Look, man, I'm not in a rush to get out of here.

[175] I'm not looking forward to death.

[176] I'd like to be around.

[177] But this obsession with the highest number, my buddy Dan Button, who does Blue Zones, has studied the people who live the longest.

[178] And the people that live the longest, don't try to live longer, they just forget to die.

[179] Right, right, right, right.

[180] My mom who's 91 and absolutely kicking ass just has zero stress.

[181] And that's part of her deal.

[182] She gets on me all the time.

[183] Why are you considering that?

[184] Why are you been so considerate?

[185] I was like, why you kind of top it out?

[186] And she's not a shallow person, but she's not even thinking about living long.

[187] She's just like, I haven't considered it.

[188] What are you talking about?

[189] I don't know.

[190] I haven't thought about it.

[191] Yeah, that's fascinating.

[192] Well, this kind of dovetails into what we're going to talk about, which is the story you're telling yourself about your life is very powerful, right?

[193] Way more powerful than we'd ever want to actually admit to ourselves.

[194] Because when you have a story, you only see evidence that confirms your story, right?

[195] You can't see the evidence that denies your story.

[196] True.

[197] And there is a great value.

[198] to denial if you truly commit to it.

[199] I was raised by that woman I was talking about to be resilient.

[200] You fall down, get up, dust yourself off, move on.

[201] I mean, come on.

[202] It's not broken.

[203] It's a bruise.

[204] About everything.

[205] I would say that's one of my top three values is resilience.

[206] At the same time, if you only are getting up and dust yourself off and denying anything else that gets your way, you're a repeat offender.

[207] You step in the same pile of shit every time around the corner and you get up and dust yourself off and say, I got to keep winning the race.

[208] When the ideal thing to do is go, hang on a second, I'm going to stop.

[209] I'm going to take a pause.

[210] Look over my shoulder and see why I keep stepping in that same pile of shit.

[211] So my next time around the bin, I can sidestep it.

[212] There's some evolution, right?

[213] Yes.

[214] And we do have to slow down in the race, what I call a yellow light, to get into that evolution, to make a different choice.

[215] I love what you're saying because it's the difference between being defeated by things.

[216] You don't want your child to be defeated by things.

[217] You don't want your child to be defeated by things.

[218] want to be defeated by things.

[219] But you also want to learn from the thing and avoid the thing, not just learn to ignore the thing.

[220] Right.

[221] We all suffer from both sides of that.

[222] I love the term yellow light, because it's the real life light choice.

[223] What do you do?

[224] It's saying caution, slow down.

[225] Do you heed its caution?

[226] And like, oh, I'm going to tap the brakes, gear down, because I need to take pause and look over my shoulder news in the door.

[227] Or, which we also need to do, sometimes to go, yellow light, caution.

[228] Fuck that.

[229] Petal.

[230] to the metal.

[231] I'm not giving it no credit, man. If you're running every yellow light, you're not evolving.

[232] But if you're slowing down to stop at every yellow light, it can be mental paralysis.

[233] You can sit there and be immobilized by your objectivity and your context and your over consideration.

[234] And all of a sudden, you're not the subject.

[235] I love help and education and counsel and have a lot of people that are in therapy.

[236] And I see it do well for them.

[237] But too much, we can become so hyper aware of, wait, what am I doing?

[238] How will it land?

[239] Is it being perceived as I hope it intended to be?

[240] All of a sudden, you're like, dude, just do it.

[241] It can lead to massive self -consciousness.

[242] And I think we'd all aspire to be really what you are to me is comfortable in our bodies and comfortably moving unself -consciously through the world.

[243] Trying to be.

[244] Did you watch Stutz?

[245] Stuts, no. Oh, my God, I'd love for you to watch it.

[246] It's a documentary on Netflix that Jonah Hill made about his therapist, Phil Stutz, this very famous psychiatrist.

[247] But he has some incredible takes on a lot of what you're saying.

[248] His point is, you have a shadow.

[249] We all do.

[250] It's maybe the most interesting part of ourselves.

[251] And that shadow's there telling us, don't try because you'll fail and get laughed at.

[252] And that all a human's real job in life is to nurture that shadow and keep stepping forward and keep creating, knowing it'll be imperfect, knowing there'll be failure, just moving, moving, moving in the face of that shadow.

[253] It's a great documentary on a lot of levels, not just because of Stuts, but because Jonah tries to make this about Stutz originally, and then it just is failing, and he acknowledges it's failing, and he recognizes it's going to have to be about him, and we're going to have to see Stutz work on him.

[254] It's brilliant, the honesty.

[255] And so Jonah talks about his shadow, and he's got a picture of his shadow, basically, You can see, when he was his most overweight, 12 -year -old self, so insecure, thought the world hated him.

[256] And Phil Stutz says, that little boy is the voice that's telling you not to do everything, right?

[257] And Jonah comes to recognize, he's looking at the picture and he says, man, I went and made it.

[258] I did it all.

[259] And I didn't bring him along for the ride.

[260] I didn't invite him to join me at the party.

[261] And I'm like, oh, isn't that what we all do?

[262] Reservation for one, please.

[263] Yeah, so it's like encouraging you to nurture the.

[264] that little, whatever Matthews, whatever day he got embarrassed and ashamed and got insecure, it's like invite that little boy hold his hand and bring them with you on this ride and keep them.

[265] Yeah, when I take these little solo trips off with myself, the first 10 days are fucking hell.

[266] Democratic dialogue is just I'm like sick of myself.

[267] And then about day 11 or 12, they usually have some sort of spiritual and physical purge that just happens.

[268] And I guess it's when I just get fed up and I realize, oh, well, you're the only motherfucker I'm stuck with.

[269] The only so much I can't choose to bring along or not.

[270] So we better fucking work figure out how to get along, man. What are we going to forgive and what are we going to say the buck stops here?

[271] I'm tired of that shit.

[272] But we're going forward together.

[273] So let's shake on it, you son of a bit.

[274] And then all of a sudden, I'm like, hey, come on, bro.

[275] Let's go.

[276] Let's do this.

[277] And then all of a sudden, Life becomes clear again or clearer, at least more, we start giggling at the right stuff.

[278] What's happening in the 10 days?

[279] Like, what are the pieces that you don't like?

[280] Can I guess?

[281] Yeah.

[282] I think for those first 10 days, you're like, you're so full of shit.

[283] Fraud, non -deserving, fucking imposter, cheater, liar.

[284] Yeah, talk a big game.

[285] I can look at you, man. Yeah.

[286] Oh, that's nice.

[287] Sounded real clever there, McCona, from the neck up.

[288] What about the rest, man?

[289] You got them all full, don't you?

[290] All that stuff.

[291] And then symbols.

[292] Oh, what are these symbols?

[293] This ring means this to me. This ring means this to me. You were here before you had these symbols.

[294] What are you doing, man?

[295] Strip them all off.

[296] Get back down to the old birthday suit, mammal that was born and go, for me, I call a child of God.

[297] That's it.

[298] Bam, bam.

[299] Mammal, here we go.

[300] I guess now I can go back and redefine.

[301] Why did I put on that wedding ring?

[302] Why does that M from McConaughey that my dad gave?

[303] is a ring.

[304] What does that mean?

[305] What does that American flag on my cat mean?

[306] What did these things mean?

[307] Boy, because you were kind of relying on them, you know?

[308] They were my proverbial red sports car of identity.

[309] The 300 ZX baby T -tops.

[310] We're leaning against it like the guy at the dance against the wall smoking cigarettes instead of being on the dance floor.

[311] Get the fuck off the wall, bro.

[312] So that's what that first 10 days is.

[313] Just getting the ego and check and seeing what's full of this, full of that.

[314] And I am not for getting rid of ego.

[315] I don't think that's the right path.

[316] I think we've got to have judgment for identity.

[317] But check it sometimes.

[318] Insecurities, failures, regrets, shame, embarrassment.

[319] And then something happens to day 11, 12, 13.

[320] The thing that made me go, oh, fuck, on day three, now made me go.

[321] Right, right, right, right.

[322] So I giggle at myself a little bit.

[323] At the end of the day, you kind of extend yourself the grace you would to any other human being.

[324] Right?

[325] You know, stress is a word that has such a bad name right now.

[326] And I think it's getting a bad name kind of unfairly.

[327] Having a little bit of stress means you give a shit.

[328] And what we're labeling stress, we're labeling stress.

[329] We're labeling everything stress these days.

[330] There's this child psychologist that talked with all these young men and women and we're like, what's your biggest problem?

[331] Not there like stress.

[332] And like, stress for what?

[333] And they're like, well, I don't have as good of grades as Joey.

[334] I don't have the shoes that Jane has.

[335] I don't, you know, look as good as something.

[336] He goes, that's not stress.

[337] That's envy.

[338] And soon as you relabeled it envy for the child.

[339] The child was like, oh, I can deal with that.

[340] I just didn't know how to deal with stress.

[341] Yeah.

[342] The guilt, I've done it.

[343] It sounds like a maybe similar.

[344] You don't offer yourself the gracious hand that you offer others is actually arrogant.

[345] Oh, sure.

[346] Yeah, that's great.

[347] And we got to watch that, you know?

[348] Yeah, because I guess in this inflated self -esteem and inflated ego comes with it, I should know better.

[349] Like maybe this other guy, I can extend the grace to say, yeah, know better or these situations led you to hear but now you know but for me i am so arrogant that i'm like you fucking know better every time this wasn't no accident you've never been involved in an accident and here's the other thing you do right right that's day 11 that's day 12 you're like yes i do and that's also human and i bogied again okay who are you jealous of because you're very self -aware I have a good hunch.

[350] You know exactly how I see you.

[351] I talk about you on this podcast all the time, by the way.

[352] Letterman was our guest yesterday.

[353] Letterman happens to say, oh, my favorite part of having Matt Damon on was I would make him do his McConaughey impersonation all the time.

[354] So then I say, oh, would you like to hear mine?

[355] I do one as well.

[356] So then I get some mileage out of that.

[357] And then we're just kind of expounding upon you.

[358] And I'm saying, and I believe it, I'm like, he is an enigma to me. This man looks so comfortable in his own skin.

[359] He seems to enjoy exactly where.

[360] he's landed in a way that seems so healthy.

[361] I'm jealous of it.

[362] There's just a comfort.

[363] So knowing that you know how I look at you and you know how a lot of people in America look at you, it would be hard for us to imagine that you are jealous of some people and I want to know who those people are.

[364] I'm probably not as jealous as I'm incapable of being.

[365] And I know it started as intellectual exercise of just when any jealousy or warn or envy popped up, I squashed it.

[366] Called it mortal hogwash.

[367] Well, it's a weakness, right?

[368] You and I are on the same path.

[369] I'm like, anytime I evaluate that I'm being weak, that's my full attention.

[370] So for me, jealousy represents a weakness, and I won't have it.

[371] I don't remember the last person that I was jealous of.

[372] I am jealous of people with traits of what I'm chasing to get to, the man I'm trying to become.

[373] Look, I'm jealous of my mom's lack of consideration and context and her absolute free will and just moving forward and being like, I don't understand me what you're hung up about, why you're feeling bad or guilty about that.

[374] Come on, don't get over it.

[375] And she's usually right.

[376] I'm jealous of people that don't seem to need accomplishment and achievement as much as I do to feel significant.

[377] I am jealous of myself when I don't need that achievement and accomplishment to feel significant.

[378] Because I'm in touch with my past.

[379] I have respect for what I've built to get here.

[380] When I'm spiritually sound, when I'm connected to my past, I don't have those bouts of insignificance.

[381] I'm midlife crisis, and I may be going through one right now.

[382] But I think so many of midlife crises are about when we don't respect what we've actually built to this point.

[383] Because for me, I know when things are going well, I have such a tendency to be like, oh, that's the mean.

[384] That's how it ought to be.

[385] That should be the line, which is false.

[386] No, when it's going well, you should be like, fuck, yeah, man, we're rolling now.

[387] Green lights are to run downhill.

[388] let's compound these assets because it ain't going to be like this all the time.

[389] But I have a tendency to go like, no, that should be the norm.

[390] So if something doesn't come away, all of a sudden, I have to realize, welcome to life, Podge.

[391] This is where most of the mean is.

[392] So I'll have bouts of insignificance if I don't get what I want or pull off what I want or maybe don't feel I'm relevant in the right way.

[393] I get jealous of people that have the full belief in themselves.

[394] Even in those times, they're playing the long game, man. They're like, no, this is a blip.

[395] Don't let self -confidence go down now because you went O for two.

[396] You know, that kind of thinking, just to remember, I get jealous of that of people that can live that way that you don't know if they've had a freaking worst day.

[397] You don't know if they just lost their ass financially or you don't know if they just had their best day in the biggest acquisition that I really respect and can lean to jealousy.

[398] I recently read the Washington biography by Ron.

[399] churnow could not recommend it enough it's phenomenal i didn't know shit about washington other than the obvious stuff but during the continental congress he's there with all the fathers right and they're spouting off all their genius wisdom and they're talking nonstop and what made everyone so obsessed with washington is he never opened his mouth and they were like this guy must be the smartest guy in the room he's the only one not trying to prove how smart he is and people just imbued onto him this quality of leadership in stalwart knowledge.

[400] He is so foreign to me. I'm like, I got to win you over.

[401] You're getting the platinum package when you meet me. I need the approval.

[402] I need you to think I'm smart.

[403] And I look at his character and I go like, my God, I could definitely stand to have a little more of that.

[404] Washington.

[405] Yeah.

[406] I know.

[407] I'm guilty of that too.

[408] Let's give herself a little credit to the old Best Foot Forward, full package.

[409] For instance, I'm told that sometimes people think I'm over -trusting.

[410] in my heart, I'm like, I'll go down on the sword for that one then.

[411] I believe that's an immortal value.

[412] Mortally, I get it.

[413] You better be wise, bro.

[414] Don't be a fool.

[415] And I've built enough stuff that I don't want to be a fool with stuff I've built and just let someone come pick my pocket.

[416] I get that.

[417] But I have seen when I give more trust to someone, it will create a like response.

[418] And all of a sudden, they will give me more trust.

[419] Did you learn that from someone or are you innately like that?

[420] No, that's been an innate feeling.

[421] And it can work for trust.

[422] It can work with respect.

[423] It can work with fairness.

[424] I just can work with being cool.

[425] And I see it.

[426] And I'm around big business and in politics as well.

[427] I've seen politicians and major business corporate CEOs get completely screwed over, written about or hoodwinked or pencil whip by someone they had Christmas with, man. Their families hung out together.

[428] And I'm like, don't you just want to get that son of a bitch in the dark alley?

[429] And they're like, oh, it's business or no, it's just politics.

[430] I'm not ready to shake hands with, ah, that's just the way it is.

[431] Ah, that's okay.

[432] No, no, no. I'd rather just be aware of you and not do business with you.

[433] This is what I can say.

[434] I'm working, a lot of us are, working our ass off to win the fair fights.

[435] The fair fights are hard enough to win if nobody cheats.

[436] Raising the best family you can, being the best spouse, having a career that you work hard at and you become competent at it and you become good at a skill.

[437] Those are fair fights that are hard to win.

[438] And man, these ones that come with I've already spiked the punch on howdy?

[439] You don't have you want to tell me, hey, this is the ring we're getting in, and no holds barred.

[440] That's a different game.

[441] I can click into that.

[442] But come on, it's hard enough to win the fair ones.

[443] And if I'm trying to win the fair ones and I want to fight it fair, and you're trying to fight them fair, if we're going to get together, we're going to do each other a service by not fucking over each other.

[444] Well, and you can kind of live with the results of that.

[445] People sleep well.

[446] Yeah, you can live with Best Man One.

[447] I can, but I don't think people are embarrassed like I wish some of us would be.

[448] I think people sleep just fine with the screw over.

[449] I see it catch a lot of people towards the end of their life when they do get some new perspective or they're looking back on their most affluent and mobile years.

[450] I do see regret come in and all of a sudden this sort of bend a knee, ask for forgiveness or whatever that is.

[451] But I've also seen people go all the way through and be like, That was a game.

[452] I played.

[453] I won.

[454] I didn't get rid the rules.

[455] Yeah.

[456] I wonder, because what gives me kind of peace of mind a lot of times is I'm not carrying a list of people who have fucked me over.

[457] When I go to sleep at night, that's actually doesn't really enter my mind.

[458] What enters my mind all the time is people I have fucked over.

[459] People who I have lied to.

[460] People who I have wronged.

[461] That is in me like a tattoo, right?

[462] And that's why I make commends or whatever, but I don't live with anyone else's mistakes.

[463] I live with mine and actually gives me comfort when I'm seeing someone who's fucked me over.

[464] I have the presence of mine a lot of times just go like, yeah, man, and I don't have to live with that.

[465] That's going to keep that dude up for life.

[466] That's the punishment.

[467] That's the immortal thinking right there.

[468] And I believe you're right.

[469] I don't think you can ever go wrong with that.

[470] That's long term, call it karma, call it spiritual, whatever you want to go.

[471] You're right on.

[472] The amount of places they have to go in this world and look over their shoulder because they've screwed to me people over.

[473] That's stress and anxiety in their life.

[474] That's lack of freedom, lack of green lights in their life.

[475] Sorry, you can have that.

[476] Yeah, yeah.

[477] Yeah.

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[497] What are we doing with acting, Matthew?

[498] Where are we at?

[499] What are we doing with acting?

[500] What are we doing?

[501] Well, the last few years, I had a really wonderful time getting rid of a lot of those filters that come with acting.

[502] Foursen enough to get a job.

[503] We're playing another character.

[504] Someone else's script, directed by someone else, lensed in a camera by someone else, edited by someone else, before our all expression is shared.

[505] The writing of the book got rid of four of those filters for me. There's a written word, so there's still one filter.

[506] I've really been working on checking in with, well, in the ultimate big picture, the big movie that's being made, which we are all the subject and the main character in, and action was called once when we were born, and cut will be called once when we leave this life.

[507] What are we doing?

[508] We're being recorded, at least in the hands of time.

[509] What am I doing?

[510] That's the challenge I've been putting on myself for the last few years, which has had me question a lot of new things about my own usefulness, about leadership, about legacy, about my kids, about fatherhood, about characters.

[511] I am now becoming more interested in actually going to play another character in a year TV show because all the last four years of culminating and, writing and getting these things together and getting more into some public service, now that I'm starting to dispatch those and get them organized and put them in front of me, it freed me up to go, the idea of going to act in the right role and the right kind of movie, film, or series right now sounds like an awesome vacation.

[512] I've been on the same journey, which is for the last five years, I do this.

[513] Really curious that I directed movies.

[514] It took me two years.

[515] My whole goal was I could let you in on my point of view.

[516] Oh, while I sit down in here and I do it real time and then it's out one second later, like if what I want to do is let you in on my point of view, this is certainly a quicker, more concise version of it.

[517] Without all those filters, too.

[518] Yes, and without the confinements of structure in three acts in 90 minutes and all these things.

[519] So liberating, so fulfilling that I go like, I don't even want to do that thing anymore.

[520] Yet weirdly, so five years of myself, and it sounds like for you, three years of yourself playing yourself, kind of like, Oh, yeah, I wouldn't mind playing someone else.

[521] I might be sick of myself.

[522] Like, it might actually be time to go be someone else.

[523] I know none of this time at all has been in vain.

[524] I would dare be arrogant enough to think any of it has.

[525] I'll be a different or improved actor in my own right after this last three years.

[526] I deliberately chose to go focus on some things I was talking about.

[527] And I have different perspectives.

[528] Do you think maybe you could re -end, enter it for process in that outcome in a way that you've never really entered it?

[529] Where I have is so much respect for the vocation of acting.

[530] I think I have a healthier relationship.

[531] I'm not looking at for my survival and my thrival.

[532] I think good acting emulates life.

[533] Real life's where this stuff comes from.

[534] I think I've experienced some real good life in this last few years in ways that I hadn't in a while.

[535] I've been more introverted to write a book as introversion.

[536] And the three years of COVID sort of was a forced monasticism on everybody in some version.

[537] I write my journal 24 -7s whenever something comes up, bam, right.

[538] And then I trust that, okay, I'm going to go look at this in a few years.

[539] And I'm going to trust there's going to be some themes in there.

[540] And I'm finding that out now.

[541] They're like, oh, yeah, you wrote what you wanted, but there's about eight different themes that you're trying out in life that you're trying to experiment with and see if they pay you back and how they were doing that is freedom up to go play a role that really turns me on in a sort of structured that's what's been so tough about the last few years for everybody we've all been in limbo to go up some structure we're like got a call time i got lines i got scenes i got a character and i know if i lay this down day to day hopefully i can put together performance and nope it'll be in something that'll be its own external piece of art with me as a character that sounds like a vacation right now well the reason i wondered if it would be more about process than outcome is that for me a it's not my identity anymore that was wild like really kind of unbuckling that as an identity was stronger than i guess i would have guessed almost like i feel like i left a cult in some weird way secondly i don't need it at all if i did it it'd be because i wanted to which means it's because i enjoyed the process and hanging with other folks i liked playing and fucking off in front of a camera I don't give a fuck if it comes out I don't care if it makes money I don't care if it leads to another job that's a freedom I've never done the thing with and that's certainly a freedom you have right now 15 years ago I didn't have the courage to believe that I didn't trust myself I thought oh if I think I don't need this then I'm going to half ass it and I've learned even if you say no this doesn't define me it's not my top priority I'm not going to work any less hard to get it done for my own self so now I trust myself with that You know, cool story on process.

[542] After I took a couple years off after doing nothing but rom -coms and getting offered nothing but rom -coms, I got all these dramas I wanted to do.

[543] And I was like, fuck the results, man. I'm going for the experience.

[544] But look at the results.

[545] I got more results.

[546] Yeah.

[547] I love the metaphor of like, you play golf?

[548] I've avoided it intentionally because I'm an addict, so no. Well, me too.

[549] Because five hours a day, that's not going to be good for my race.

[550] My wife's not having that, yeah.

[551] But golfers, right?

[552] Every offer knows if you're having a good round.

[553] Don't look at the scorecard to see how many under Ovi are on the 16th T -box.

[554] That's asking for a double bogey.

[555] Do your best rounds when you walk off the 18th green like you're going to the next T -box and you have to be reminded, oh, the round's over.

[556] The work that Jared Letto and I got to do in Dallas Pires Club, people think this is weird, but it was so much fun.

[557] You'll know this is an actor.

[558] Jared Letto and I met, actually met each other on the last day of shooting.

[559] They called rap and looked over to Jared Leto, who'd been playing Rayon, who had been treating like Rayon this whole time, and I went, hey, hey, McConaughey.

[560] And now he goes, there's, man, that was fun.

[561] We were so into the process, right?

[562] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[563] Oh, that's right.

[564] And then just had to go, hey, it's over.

[565] We went, oh, okay.

[566] It was so much fun.

[567] There's a vacation in loving the process.

[568] There's a vacation in behaving within the process, being the subject in the process and not necessarily sometimes going out and being so objective to go, wait, let me see.

[569] How am I doing is what I'm doing landing right?

[570] I don't know, man. I hadn't looked up.

[571] Just being the dude.

[572] Yeah, flow for three months.

[573] Yeah.

[574] All right.

[575] Well, on behalf of America, I'm ready for like a 10 -parter I can sink my teeth into.

[576] All right.

[577] I think we're all ready.

[578] Could you have, no, before I ask you that, how do you feel about second?

[579] I know they can be useful.

[580] I've seen them open up the aperture for people that needed apertures open up.

[581] I've seen people say it in ways where they're like all the tentacles in my brain are like this until I did them and everything connected for the first time.

[582] That was an Australian saying that.

[583] Yeah, I like that.

[584] Took me back to your vacation there.

[585] Yeah, my.

[586] Remember you had the weird house?

[587] You're like study a brother or whatever that was.

[588] A fucking weirdest story ever.

[589] That was a psychedelic.

[590] itself.

[591] Oh my God.

[592] They're not for everybody or for everyone all the time, I don't think.

[593] They're not for every Pisces.

[594] They're already fished.

[595] They already swim four -dimensionally.

[596] They need a little structure.

[597] But what are you?

[598] What are you?

[599] I'm Scorpio.

[600] So one could argue that the right psychedelic for me could be useful because I love a structure and a plan and like to be in control, right?

[601] I can say, oh, you know what?

[602] Oh, we open the walls and be able to swerve on the terms a little bit more.

[603] What can be great about any drug.

[604] And if you're going to talk about, we're talking about a natural psychedelic, is so many of these things, they're not a problem when you're on them.

[605] They're a problem when you're awful.

[606] The freedom of a volume on Friday night, you're so relaxed because you're having half as many thoughts.

[607] You have twice as much energy.

[608] The freedom that can come with someone that is dealing with some anxiety for that can be great on Friday night.

[609] But when it's not good is when you start to get a little twitchy on Tuesday, afternoon because you're overcompensating, you're like, now I'm having one and a half more thoughts than I had before.

[610] It's like with the coffee thing.

[611] It can buy energy from your afternoon.

[612] If it's buying energy from your future, that's when it can become a problem.

[613] So then you go, well, instead of your Friday night, give me one Tuesday and Friday.

[614] Then it's on this Thursday.

[615] Then it's all of a sudden sobriety is like, I can't function.

[616] And all of a sudden, you know, you're lining up with things, the drink, the this, that, and the other.

[617] And so the psychedelics, I've seen them be good for the right people.

[618] I've seen weed be very useful for some people.

[619] I know someone very close to me that if they don't have a toke of THC in the morning, by 9 .30 a .m., they have a sweat mark from their elbow to their bottom rib.

[620] Yeah, their nervous system is just, yeah.

[621] I've also seen people overdo it.

[622] Yeah, I've seen some lazy motherfuckers.

[623] Come on, bro.

[624] No, this is reality right in front of us, man. That's it.

[625] They'll make a straight line crooked.

[626] Water is wet, poured in the glass, drink it.

[627] That's it.

[628] Everything's not a bright idea.

[629] We don't need too many bright ideas.

[630] Okay.

[631] Were you shocked with how incredibly well Green Lights did?

[632] Like, we talked to you, I think, October 2020.

[633] So the book was just coming out.

[634] And then it spent 65 weeks on the bestseller list.

[635] It sold three million copies.

[636] It's the best selling celebrity memoir in 10 years.

[637] where even you like oh damn that's interesting oh hell yeah like oh did i hit a nerve how do you make sense of that kind of victory i know it's like it's its own process when you do a movie that works because it's so freaky why they work or they don't it's such a magic trick and so i'd imagine entering a whole new medium and then having this great success it might take a while to understand why it worked i'm still understanding still trying to understand why it worked and i'm going into which we'll chat about later with this art of living thing, doubling down on the next sort of crystallization of what was taken and digested and appreciated from the book, where Greenland's was an approach book, and narrowing down to more of the process.

[638] How do you make it tangible and transformational for individuals to really go, oh, I can measure that.

[639] Oh, I see that science to satisfaction.

[640] And that science can lead to an art of living.

[641] I've had so many people around the world come up to me. And you know how it is.

[642] Someone can come up and be a fan of some work you do.

[643] And they go, hey, man, love you and so -and -so.

[644] And you can be like, cool, high -five, appreciate it.

[645] And then those people that you're like, yeah, cool.

[646] And they go, they grab you by both shoulders and they square you up and they go, no. No, motherfucker.

[647] Listen to me. Yeah.

[648] It did this for me. And you go, cool.

[649] Wow.

[650] You got to fight the fraudulent feeling first, right?

[651] Here's where I'm now.

[652] About eight months ago, I went in and shook hands with fraud.

[653] I'm like, look, man, the more I read, the more I'm seeing, I'm plagiarizing.

[654] The more I read, I'm like, oh, I'm just reporting.

[655] Things that I think I intuit that are absolutely original.

[656] I'll go read and I go, that's been around for 2 ,000 years.

[657] I'll be like, okay, fine.

[658] You're messaging in a different way and good on you, McCona, go forward on that.

[659] So I've gotten over that fraudulent thing or at least shaking hands with going and, if it's fraudulent, so what?

[660] It's communicating.

[661] It's being understood in a different way.

[662] I got to tell you something really quick.

[663] I flew into Houston four months ago.

[664] I have a bus.

[665] it was being fixed in Nacadocious.

[666] So I fly into Houston, and my man picks me up from Ford Travel.

[667] He works at the motorhome company.

[668] He picks me up in Houston.

[669] That's a long drive to Nacadocious.

[670] So I'm getting to know this guy, Tile.

[671] And I don't know where he just goes, you do a show, right?

[672] You interview people?

[673] I go, yeah.

[674] He goes, you ever interview McConaughey?

[675] And I go, yeah, he goes, that book, Green Lights.

[676] Oh, my God.

[677] I never read a book like that.

[678] Matthew, he went on for 40 minutes about this book.

[679] This hit this motherfucker between the eyes.

[680] It was awesome.

[681] It was just out of absolute nowhere.

[682] It opened up his chest and fucking went right in.

[683] Well, thank you, Tile.

[684] I've gotten a bunch of those run -ins.

[685] People going, I saw myself in your stories or bringing up a certain prescribe or something.

[686] I go, man, I've really been working on.

[687] That one's really helped me take a risk.

[688] Here's what I've done the last six months.

[689] And I believe I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for your book.

[690] A lot of people saying they've taken risks they never took before.

[691] And then a lot of people still questioning, which is why I want to follow up on this, and I'm working on another book now.

[692] I'm not necessarily, it's not a green lights too, but it is a crystallization of some of the ideas.

[693] And it's also what we're going to do in this art of living event is people going, so I'm catching green lights, but how can I trust that it's the right green light?

[694] I'll say, like, you don't want battery powered green lights.

[695] You want solar powered green lights, right?

[696] The ones that give you residuals.

[697] And then people go, and you have it this yellow light, man. It's the most like life.

[698] Do I put the pedal to the metal and blow it?

[699] or when do I slow down?

[700] And again, that's an individual art, right?

[701] And then this red light thing, man, what do you mean?

[702] You know, I tell the story about my dad dying.

[703] It was a major red light, but had the major greenlight gift of me to cease acting like the man he taught me to be and start becoming the man in his absence because I didn't have him as a crutch.

[704] Some people will go, but dude, that's callous, man. You what do you mean?

[705] You're like brushing over it.

[706] You're denying the pain of your dad's death.

[707] I'm like, no, I didn't shed any less tears.

[708] I don't feel any less of a gaping hole.

[709] It was no less of a crisis in pain by realizing that gift, I feel like I'm honoring him more.

[710] So I'm actually giving more credence to the life he lived.

[711] And credence to his no longer being here.

[712] And so I'm not for delusional optimism, but I'm also not for cynics either.

[713] I'm for skeptics.

[714] And I think true optimism is true realism.

[715] What the hell is we going to do?

[716] And so there is a gift in those red lights.

[717] part of it's trust in that they're there without being a fool, again, and brushing over and going, no, there is no crisis.

[718] No, and this is not a problem.

[719] And that's the questions that most people still have.

[720] When we interviewed you, you know, you tell this story that's very comical, but your mom and dad fighting and chucking a fucking bottle of ketchup or something, then there's a knife, and then there's lovemaking.

[721] And Monica and both were like, they're like, that's trauma.

[722] It's trauma.

[723] So it's what you're already talking about.

[724] It's like the nuance of life.

[725] I'm caught between processing, understanding what you've been through also being the hero in your story and not being a victim and being grateful ultimately for the things that have led to you being where you're at assuming you like where you're at so learning to do that but yeah that was one of my first things i'm like yeah this is a fun story but i don't know another kid in the same situation is pretty fucked up by that experience and i hear you let's unpack that and have some fun unpacking that for a second one thing that i think we all need to check in on more so and i know i do is appropriate expectations and this non -considered idea that we all believed were such an evolved species.

[726] And I actually think we think we're more evolved than we actually are.

[727] I think we prove it every day.

[728] So was my mom and dad a Candyland Roman?

[729] Hell no, it wasn't, man. There was blood drawn.

[730] And my mom at 91 right now is the first one to pick up her middle finger that goes like this from being broke a few times ago.

[731] It's exactly what I needed to communicate.

[732] I instigated every one of Now, I can look at her and go, well, you're out of your mind.

[733] But that's not my place.

[734] I can't tell her she was a victim if she's like, no, I was not.

[735] Yeah.

[736] When I say appropriate expectations, it's all love stories, right?

[737] A relationship with ourselves, the world, a person sitting to the right of you, your parents, your past, your future.

[738] It's all a love story.

[739] It's all a relationship.

[740] Well, love stories are tragic.

[741] Love stories have pain and loss.

[742] Real love stories, dude.

[743] My mom and dad were divorced twice, married three times.

[744] I don't know.

[745] am I being shallow by saying oh well love one three to two that's the math yeah so that gives me something to believe in and I don't judge my parents and how they treat each other because they were madly in love with each other people have appetites and indigestions man and they're allowed to enter into any contract they want I support it and they did and they wouldn't do it a different not one moment is it how I want my relationship to be with my wife no thank you you.

[746] No, I like a little bit more of a slow -moving river.

[747] I'm not looking for the tidal wave at every freaking turn like my mom and dad were.

[748] Yeah, yeah, Victoria Falls one morning.

[749] Shit, man. I'm like, gosh, damn.

[750] You know, but to this day, if I'm in there and we're sitting there last night, having a conversation around the table, and everybody's just getting along great, agreeing on stuff.

[751] And my mom can put up with this for about 15 minutes.

[752] And obviously, she's like, and everyone quit just, you know, rubbing each other off.

[753] Come on.

[754] Come on.

[755] Come on.

[756] She'll just throw a wrenching just to get everyone going, hey, she's got to see some contention, yeah.

[757] Yeah, she wants some action.

[758] It doesn't hurt her either.

[759] She's the person that you say, I'm sorry to.

[760] She's like, sorry for what?

[761] These civil disagreements without personally attacking someone is something we can all work on admitting, I think, that we're not as evolved as species as we like to think.

[762] I love that we're aspiring to be.

[763] But when we come down and mortally judge and condemn each other for being human, trying to work this riddle out, trying to learn how to do right, sometimes by screwing up first, without any forgiveness or without any repentance sometime on the person when I say, I think we need more embarrassment.

[764] We also need people that screw up to go, my bogey, man, my bad.

[765] And we as the person who were perpetrated against, have to make that choice.

[766] Is this just a character trait of this person?

[767] Because if it is, lock them, I'm not hanging out with them anymore.

[768] Or do I really believe that they repent that action and they want to go forward newly.

[769] If you choose the second, now we got a deeper, cooler connection with that person going forward.

[770] And we've built it up and we've evolved.

[771] So I didn't judge my mom and dad.

[772] Now, mind you, it's what I knew.

[773] Did they tell some white lies along the way?

[774] Did I know that when I was living in a trailer park with my dad, that mom and dad were in their second divorce?

[775] No, I thought mom was on an extended vacation in Florida.

[776] They didn't think I was old enough to understand they were in his divorced.

[777] I don't sit there and go, what didn't you tell me?

[778] to this day.

[779] I'm like, I guess I'm glad I didn't really know.

[780] How you synthesize your past, a lot of the times I think is determined by how much you like your present.

[781] And let's talk about art of living because I do imagine if you can get people to a spot in life that they like, that they're grateful for, that they're proud of, it can reverse engineer how they feel emotionally about all the stuff that preceded it.

[782] Now, if you're somewhere you absolutely hate and you don't know why the fuck this happened and why you landed here and why you're hopeless, then, yeah, everything before you's an explanation of why you're in that spot.

[783] But again, if you like where you're at, then the explanation's a good one.

[784] If you can get people to where they want to be, I think it can be a domino effect of how they feel about everything.

[785] I haven't ever thought of deconstructing it back from, if you're happy where you're at, you deal with your past better, but I'd like that.

[786] I'm free to speak on April 24th.

[787] Come on.

[788] Come on.

[789] The more popular narrative would be, if you're okay with your past, you're better with your present.

[790] And I think both those are true.

[791] I'm going to go to a baseline thing where people are going to go, there's nothing inspiring or transformed about that, but I do think it's where we all need to start.

[792] And you'll know about this.

[793] I think it's part of what AA teaches.

[794] We've got to start admitting more truth.

[795] I think we need to admit we're not as evolved as species as we like to think we are.

[796] I think we need to admit that we lie, that we are lied to, and we are selective about which lies we choose to believe.

[797] because how do they serve us?

[798] I think we need to admit some of this shit without judging.

[799] Not admit it and then look in the mirror and go, oh, I'm fucking horrible, man. No, no. Just admit it and go, yep, guilty.

[800] Yep, I've been drinking the Kool -Aid over there because it gave me a little identity and I needed an echo chamber of people that I could feel like were next to me, but I know it's kind of fucking have buyer's remorse.

[801] It doesn't really add up.

[802] I think we just admit these things without judging, without a condemnation of ourselves or others.

[803] And then we can look at each other and go, certain things that we maybe brushed off and said, oh, that doesn't matter.

[804] Like those people we were talking about that maybe it was sleep well at night by line and cheating steel, maybe they will be a little bit more embarrassed and going, I can admit I have been discalic and I don't really give a shit about how I win and I have screws of people, I'm like, God damn it.

[805] All right, I admit that.

[806] And I can only admit it if I know you're not going to come at me and go, as soon as you admit it, I'm getting you.

[807] Yes, yes, yes, yes.

[808] Admit it first, and we can clean the slate a little bit and start call on things like they are.

[809] We're sold every day that more is purely and only quantifiable.

[810] And that's the ticket, that's success.

[811] That's what you need to get if you want to be a winner, if you want to be more you.

[812] But that's not true.

[813] Does someone out there say, yeah, but if I'm having trouble paying my rent, it's really easy for you to say McConaughey, sitting there in your wooden office with the nice soon, I hear you.

[814] I'm not saying that, but there are ways to fill our bank account and our souls account.

[815] There are ultimately ways to deal with ourselves and each other that will always pay us back, that actually are truly the more selfish choice.

[816] If we can just grab a little bit more onto delayed gratification about making some choices today that will pay us back more tomorrow.

[817] Just make that little 5 % more investment.

[818] I'm not saying quit partying.

[819] I am saying if there's worlds full of milk drinkers and beer drinkers, if us beer drinkers get introduced to a glass of milk or a glass of water between beers, Sometimes we'll learn how to party with more people and party better for longer.

[820] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[821] And that's an investment.

[822] That's buying ourselves more pleasure.

[823] There are investments we can make ourselves.

[824] We define what is it more we really want?

[825] Yeah, I think finding the line of when something is giving and when it's taking, you've got to straddle that fucking line.

[826] Partying.

[827] For me, it took more than it gave.

[828] You admitted somewhere along the line that the debit in the proverbial hangover, was hurting you worse than you were gaining from the pleasure.

[829] It was a big net loss.

[830] You were incapable of drinking the milk.

[831] That's right.

[832] You literally had a limitation where you could not drink milk.

[833] I got no time for milk.

[834] But you admitted it.

[835] Yes, yes, yes, yes.

[836] But how did you admit it when you said this morning sucks more than last night was awesome, right?

[837] Well, in a true admission that they'll all be like this.

[838] That's really it.

[839] a long time you think, oh, that was an anomaly.

[840] Yeah, I really fucked up.

[841] Yeah, I've been asked not to drink at my friend Scott's house anymore.

[842] Oh, I really shouldn't driven that car.

[843] The door says so, but I'm not going to in the future.

[844] The real admission is, I'm always going in the future.

[845] Forget yesterday.

[846] It's just like, every time we do this, it's going to be Russian roulette.

[847] We don't know if we're coming home in 12 hours or four days.

[848] Did that uncertainty bug you enough?

[849] Or that certainty that it was going to be an uncertain mess of some form make you go, uh -uh, I want more certainty.

[850] Yeah, for me it was, if you drink, you will find cocaine within an hour.

[851] And when you find cocaine, you will not come home for three days.

[852] So connecting the result with the first beer, because the first beer anyone can talk themselves into.

[853] But I had to fully admit and weld together that for me, the first beer is three days of snorting cocaine and fucking a stranger and getting a fucking the MRI DNA fucking STD test before I came home.

[854] That's what one beer is in Dax's life.

[855] Period.

[856] End a story.

[857] That's what a beer is.

[858] Or did that beer cost at 7 .11?

[859] I mean, yeah, I could get the 22 a highlight for like a dollar 30.

[860] Wow.

[861] Somewhere there you admitted that.

[862] Yeah, accepted it.

[863] I will never do this right.

[864] That's why I've always watched you with just such fascination.

[865] First time I met you, I was like, I mean, I am so fascinated.

[866] I'm not envious of someone who can have a drink.

[867] Like, some people in AA are envious of like, I wish I could have a glass of wine.

[868] I don't.

[869] I wish I could fucking rage and then shut her down at three and be at work in the morning and not do coke.

[870] And from the outside, it appears that that is the version you have.

[871] If I go to the store and shop for a version, it'd be yours.

[872] I told you that when I met you.

[873] I ain't making A pluses on that.

[874] I don't live with a bee.

[875] I can say I've gotten better at picking my spots, knowing my zone.

[876] I'm pretty good if we're going to go off and it's going to be, you know, a big group of our friends and we're going to go to the ranch and it's going to be like, take the lid off.

[877] Pretty good about going, well, let's not just clear Monday.

[878] How about let's clear Tuesday till 4 p .m.?

[879] I'll get back on Sunday night.

[880] So I'll check out my back.

[881] Backside.

[882] Sure, sure.

[883] Then I also, on that proverbial Monday morning, we're going to have to bulldog it today, buddy.

[884] But I'm going to be there.

[885] I'm going to be sweating.

[886] And I'm not going to say those stupid words of, oh, I'm never going to drink again.

[887] Yes, you are.

[888] Show up.

[889] Bulldog it, because you'll feel better about that than sleeping through the appointment.

[890] I think for you, that is the backstop.

[891] So if you were to blow by that, that's the moment you would go, I got a problem.

[892] Yes.

[893] And even when we talked by that lake, my words were you have some constitution.

[894] You could do on Monday morning what I couldn't do, which is tough shit.

[895] This sucks, but we're going jogging and then we're going to be at work.

[896] And that's just the bed you made and you woke up.

[897] And so here we go.

[898] That's a certain constitution.

[899] Hard.

[900] Yeah.

[901] Okay.

[902] Let's talk about the Art of Living Live event, which is April 24th.

[903] You can get tickets at Art of Livingevent .com.

[904] living no gee you know it keep on living tell me about this event why did you decide to do it and let me just finish with one thought i had about green lights and you trying to figure out why it was successful my guess is you're probably learning from the people who love it why it's important i wouldn't have been able to tell you why people like this show start doing live shows take audience questions see how they're talking to us they're leading with their vulnerability they're leading with their failures, they're leading with their insecurities.

[905] I had to hear that a hundred times ago like, oh, duh, I guess that's why they like us.

[906] I don't know.

[907] I thought maybe it was the guess.

[908] It could have been it's funny.

[909] No, here it is.

[910] They're telling you it's vulnerability and flaws.

[911] They feel safe and seen.

[912] You had to have learned a bit about your book from the people who it impacted.

[913] 100%.

[914] People coming to me and say, oh man, I got the courage to understand that I'm writing my story here.

[915] My hands are on the wheel.

[916] And while fate is a fact in waiting, I have, have something to do with where I end up.

[917] I can have two hands on my wheel.

[918] And it doesn't guarantee that you have a bottomless tank of gas.

[919] You can be in the left lane cruising the whole time.

[920] No, it doesn't guarantee that.

[921] You're going to be able to swerve.

[922] You're going to need to exit.

[923] You're going to need to refill the tank.

[924] You're going to need to do maintenance along the way.

[925] You may get a flat tire.

[926] All these are part of it.

[927] Right now, we're coming out of the last four years of the disruption of COVID, where we were all forced into a limbo.

[928] And right now, we seem to be coming out, where the fog's kind of lifting a little bit.

[929] We have a further side of projection, line of sight.

[930] People are wondering, what's my next solid step going forward?

[931] Can I trust a step that after one step, there might be a second solid footing?

[932] I heard a lot of that from people saying that's what they got from green lights, but that's also I heard that's what they wanted more of.

[933] Talk to me about the steps.

[934] Show me the tools.

[935] I see you in it and I saw me in your story, but can you give me a day -to -day?

[936] Actionable steps.

[937] Yeah, man. Yeah.

[938] So that's what Dean and Tony Robbins came to me going, look, we really appreciate.

[939] green lights and what you were storying and selling and preaching in here.

[940] We think it's really good.

[941] You interested McConaughey and getting under the hood of this and talking about the process where people can go, oh, that's an actual tool.

[942] And I was like, yes, please.

[943] So that's what we're going to do on the 24th is we're going to get into the practicalities, the construction of greenlights and how you can really utilize them in your life daily.

[944] We have a new day of renegotiating how we go forward.

[945] What are the things that we can take from our past before COVID years and stuff?

[946] What are the things we can take from our past that are tried, true, and tested that we're going like, no, don't forgive those.

[947] Those need to stick with you.

[948] What are the things that we learned in the last few years of limbo when we couldn't trust a plan to follow through more than three days out, if that?

[949] Well, now that we can make a plan out there and we're being asked to trust others a little more, we're also being asked to trust herself a little bit more.

[950] And that's scary.

[951] I think life's 16 lanes with room to swerve.

[952] We just got to pick out our general direction.

[953] There's many ways, many past that same destination.

[954] So I believe in writing the headlines first and living in a story towards that headline, very rarely does the headline say the same once I get there?

[955] But I do like it as a general North Star.

[956] We can engineer satisfaction in our life.

[957] And then also the art comes in, which is different from the science.

[958] And that's kind of like knowledge to wisdom.

[959] The art's individual.

[960] But you've got to have the science to the satisfaction before you get to the art of our living.

[961] And that comes after.

[962] Let's go over some things that work, some habits and some choices that works, admit some things that we just know we're true and we know our lives.

[963] Let's call it what it is.

[964] And start going forward.

[965] Yeah.

[966] And A .A. that step, you know, is the fourth step, a personal, Fearless Moral Inventory.

[967] And the analogy and why it's called an inventory, which is great, is like, you're a business.

[968] A business cannot be run if we don't know what's in stock.

[969] What's in stock?

[970] What do we got on the shelves?

[971] What do we sell it?

[972] What can we commit to selling?

[973] Go in the warehouse, the fucking clipboard, and find out what we got.

[974] What's rotten?

[975] What do we got throw out?

[976] To do that inventory is hard.

[977] It is.

[978] It is.

[979] Like what we see.

[980] We don't like seeing what we're out of stock with.

[981] We don't like seeing what our shelves are filled with.

[982] ain't sold and ain't paid us back anything for years.

[983] We're like, why am I letting that take up all that shelf space still?

[984] And I'm unworthy of love because of all this.

[985] And so I got to hide all this and deny all this.

[986] And we're so lovable when people say, oh, man, half that shelf is rotten as fuck.

[987] You should have seen the condition of these products when I took a peek.

[988] We love that.

[989] And we're afraid to admit it because we're told the world will go, na -na -n -n -na -da -boo -boo.

[990] And what do we learn?

[991] That those people that do that, they're on the sidelines hooting and hollering for a reason.

[992] But to real bros, the real sisters, are the ones going, me too.

[993] No shit.

[994] Let's clean this up.

[995] Yeah, yeah.

[996] Here's a mop.

[997] This worked great with my thing.

[998] Who's Dean?

[999] I know Tony Robbins.

[1000] I love that doc.

[1001] I'm not your guru.

[1002] That's kind of my only exposure to him.

[1003] Who's Dean?

[1004] Dean Gratioz is his business partner.

[1005] Oh, okay.

[1006] So they work together.

[1007] Yeah, they work together.

[1008] And it'll be a, Us three, Trent Shelton, Mary Furlayo.

[1009] Are they on Tony's team?

[1010] Are they separate kind of social scientists and people?

[1011] Separate.

[1012] Okay, so it's a four -hour event and it's free.

[1013] It's free.

[1014] Just tune in, work out some of this damn riddle.

[1015] We're all in.

[1016] So you guys will be somewhere live and it's going to be telecast over the web.

[1017] Are there people there that will be assisting in workshopping some of the principles in front of us?

[1018] I don't know how many people are going to be workshopping other than the five of us.

[1019] I mean, there's obviously going to be dispatch where they're going to be calling in questions from viewers and things like that to be going over things.

[1020] Oh, cool.

[1021] It's interactive with the people watching it.

[1022] Yeah.

[1023] So I've never done one of these before.

[1024] Are you nervous?

[1025] No. Actually, I'm freaking excited, man. I will be nervous on the day.

[1026] I got some smart people there with me that want to be there for the right reasons and dig what I was able to put out in green lights.

[1027] And so you and I could go for hours, you know, and so be there four hours is going to be easy.

[1028] one day you and I are going to find ourselves in a canoe.

[1029] Just mark my words.

[1030] We'll have all the answers when we get off that river.

[1031] I want to be on that canoe.

[1032] I'll be there if you'll be there, man. Oh, absolutely.

[1033] Any day of the week.

[1034] Oh, I have one quick question before we go.

[1035] I really want people to check this out.

[1036] If you love, dude, three million people read Greenlight.

[1037] It's so impressive.

[1038] Obviously, as we talked about, you stumbled upon a truth.

[1039] And it really spoke to a bunch of people.

[1040] And I think it likely spoke to a lot of people that needed speaking to that maybe weren't in the market for that, that weren't in search of this.

[1041] It came in a nice candy coating, and they found something that had some protein in it.

[1042] And I think that's the coolest thing about the book.

[1043] I bet a lot of people just picked it up to hear some fun stories from you.

[1044] And all of a sudden, we're thinking a week later, huh, that stuck with me. So I love that.

[1045] And I think it's cool that you're building on it.

[1046] And I hope a lot of people go to arteliving event .com.

[1047] figure out how to watch this live on April 24th, 9 a .m. Pacific time, four hours.

[1048] It's going to be a party.

[1049] I hope everyone checks it out.

[1050] How do you feel about all the people that do impersonations of you?

[1051] I posted an Instagram video and I tagged you.

[1052] And my thought was, he's not going to see this.

[1053] And then another part of me was like, he might see this.

[1054] How does he feel about people doing impersonations of him?

[1055] I like the good ones.

[1056] Okay, great.

[1057] So who does the good ones?

[1058] Obviously, I don't think I've seen them all.

[1059] There's a couple of guys that I keep getting my friend simmed this stuff, they go, oh, the check the set, this guy does a good.

[1060] I'm like, that's pretty fucking good.

[1061] Damon does do a good one.

[1062] Some have the lilt right, but they nip it a little short.

[1063] I don't think that mine audibly is all that spot on.

[1064] That's not what I think I can do.

[1065] But I do think I can get on your wavelength.

[1066] Come on.

[1067] This is really indulgent, but here we go.

[1068] Yes.

[1069] I was in Sedona.

[1070] and I climbed up into this vortex, and I felt you.

[1071] And then I just started talking the camera as if I were you.

[1072] And I just really felt like, you know what?

[1073] I've got the rhythm right here.

[1074] I know what would be coming out of his mouth.

[1075] It wasn't really about how the impression sounded.

[1076] Well, God damn, look who it is.

[1077] What's going on out there?

[1078] I'm just up here in Sedona, the center of this vortex.

[1079] It's getting on that energy.

[1080] Gobbling it all up.

[1081] what is it what is that energy i'll tell you what it is cause a big bang because your daddy phone low with your mama make you all right that power is supreme well i'm out here concentrating it funneling it focusing it to fuel my tank so i'll get to that next plane okay make the big guy shake his hand say how you doing thanks for having me I was very proud of that.

[1082] You know where so much does it comes from?

[1083] My middle brother, I'll call him.

[1084] And he'll go, hey, what's up, little brother?

[1085] And I go, and I might just go, man, oh, man, we need some rain, man. Oh, man, that ain't right.

[1086] Oh, I mean, no, man, you walk outside and it's like the St. Augustine.

[1087] He's like walking on stale, stale pringles, man. You'll just go for like 25 minutes on our monologue.

[1088] and then go, all right, talk to you later, buddy, and hang up.

[1089] And I'm calling back.

[1090] Dude, I called you.

[1091] We have the same older brother.

[1092] Win and doubt, spell it out.

[1093] There'll be in the middle of talk and it'll say, you know, because it really what it is, it is about the wow you, you know?

[1094] And he's like, do you spell you?

[1095] Oh, that's great.

[1096] Well, anyways, I wanted to run that bike because I hope you know, if you ever stumble across it, it is me, absolutely a daughter.

[1097] enjoying you and enjoying when I can channel the spiritual energy that you have at your fingertips.

[1098] I love it.

[1099] Love it, man. Thank you.

[1100] That's a good one.

[1101] And I appreciate it.

[1102] I feel, I don't know, complimented or something.

[1103] You should.

[1104] You absolutely should.

[1105] I've not taken it as well when people do an impersonation of me. A, I'm like, whoa, that's what I say.

[1106] I feel made fun of.

[1107] So I don't ever feel honored.

[1108] So I want to make it crystal clear.

[1109] I am honoring and flattering you because you're radical.

[1110] Well, McConaughey, good luck.

[1111] I hope everyone checks out the Art of Living, April 24th.

[1112] Go check it out, Art of Livingevent .com.

[1113] And we'll talk again.

[1114] You're going to write another book.

[1115] Anytime.

[1116] Appreciate it.

[1117] Keep on.

[1118] You got it.

[1119] You know that.

[1120] Keep on, keep on.

[1121] All right, brother.

[1122] We'll talk again.

[1123] Stay tuned for more armchair expert, if you dare.

[1124] And now my favorite part of the show, the fact check with my soulmate Monica Padman.

[1125] Welcome home.

[1126] Welcome home yourself.

[1127] You were on a much bigger voyage than me. You crossed the Pacific.

[1128] I did.

[1129] Tell me. Tell me where did you go?

[1130] I went to.

[1131] Hawaii.

[1132] Hawaii.

[1133] With the pod minus some crucial members.

[1134] You, Kristen, Laura Matt were missing, which was sad.

[1135] Of course, I posted it, and of course, someone's like, I don't mean to start rumors, but I think something's going on.

[1136] Dax and Kristen aren't there.

[1137] Well, I can tell everyone exactly what's going on there.

[1138] The pod vacations are so fun.

[1139] There's so much fun.

[1140] They're particularly fun for the kids and the adults.

[1141] Sure.

[1142] The kids are all playing together, and then the adults are getting to play spades and do whatever and fuck off.

[1143] Those were so fun, but then Kristen and I both had a moment last year where we're like, they're so fun, but we're not with the kids.

[1144] enough.

[1145] And you've got however many family vacations before they're out of the house.

[1146] Totally.

[1147] And so we got to mix it up.

[1148] Yeah.

[1149] Pod one, not just the four of us, and so on.

[1150] So that was really, that's, that was the big scandal that was going on is that we wanted to be around our kids.

[1151] Yeah.

[1152] A lot of face time.

[1153] Which was a little, you know, it sounds great on paper.

[1154] But then once you get there.

[1155] Yeah.

[1156] It's a lot of days with.

[1157] And I really isolated.

[1158] it, being with either of them for indefinitely is fine.

[1159] Yeah.

[1160] What gets to you is when they fight.

[1161] Yeah.

[1162] That's what really takes it down a notch.

[1163] Unlike you in Hawaii, open air spread out, fresh breezes, ocean spray.

[1164] Sunsets.

[1165] We were in a snowy environment inside of a house.

[1166] Yeah.

[1167] Interesting choice.

[1168] Yeah, it was just kind of the opposite.

[1169] I did think about you because we've had a horrible, Los Angeles winter.

[1170] I mean, despicable.

[1171] Yeah, probably the worst on record.

[1172] Snow, actual snow here.

[1173] Yeah, Los Angeles, snow.

[1174] Hail storms.

[1175] Hales.

[1176] Rain 60 of the last 90 days.

[1177] So I did think, oh, no, they're going to not get like a respite from that.

[1178] Right.

[1179] They're doubling down in the snow.

[1180] We did double down.

[1181] And the kids wanted snow.

[1182] That's what drove it.

[1183] Sure.

[1184] And that was fun for a couple days.

[1185] Yeah, yeah.

[1186] Snowballs.

[1187] Yep, there was some rolling big clumps of snow.

[1188] There was some sledding.

[1189] Oh, that's fun.

[1190] It was fun.

[1191] But also some complaining because they were at elevation.

[1192] And they're like, how can't I read?

[1193] They were like, annoyed.

[1194] I couldn't breathe in their miniature lungs.

[1195] Did you give them electrolytes?

[1196] Oh, yeah, so many.

[1197] Okay.

[1198] Yeah.

[1199] Okay, so what were the highlights of Hawaii?

[1200] It was just very chill.

[1201] It was.

[1202] It was relaxing.

[1203] Very relaxing.

[1204] We're at one of our favorite hotels.

[1205] Yes.

[1206] Yeah, I love that hotel.

[1207] That hotel is magic.

[1208] I'll shout it out.

[1209] Four seasons.

[1210] Awahu.

[1211] Yeah.

[1212] Quinalini.

[1213] Coalina.

[1214] Coalina.

[1215] Coalina.

[1216] It is.

[1217] Papua and your Kooooey.

[1218] Okay, we figured it out.

[1219] Oh, you did?

[1220] The mystery was solved?

[1221] Yes.

[1222] Okay.

[1223] It's Kakua and your Mahalo or something like that.

[1224] Not Papua?

[1225] No. Or Papui?

[1226] No. But Brian was there and he too heard it.

[1227] He's the one that said it's Kakua in your Mahalo.

[1228] Oh, he's in your mahalo.

[1229] I don't know if it's in your mahalo, but it's, the words are cuckua and mahalo.

[1230] Okay, and we know mahalo.

[1231] I think the whole thing was like, thank you for your patience or something.

[1232] Oh, that makes sense because it was at the airport.

[1233] Yes.

[1234] And that's a place you need great patience.

[1235] Yes.

[1236] He clarified that.

[1237] So when we were Googling cuckooee and your poohy, that was never going to find any results.

[1238] They should add it, though.

[1239] Yes.

[1240] It's such a nice hotel.

[1241] It is.

[1242] I did just say this about the Commodore Perry and Austin, which I love so much, and is one of my favorites.

[1243] So I feel like I can't say this is also one of my favorites, but it is.

[1244] Yeah, I don't know about capping favorites.

[1245] Yeah.

[1246] In fact, oh, you would love this.

[1247] Lincoln was taking the Slytherin, the house selection test.

[1248] Oh, yeah.

[1249] We have to take it every year or so to check in.

[1250] To double check.

[1251] Well, she was taking it.

[1252] And then she started asking us questions.

[1253] There was a lot of like, what's your favorite movie genre, documentary action, you know, blah, blah, blah.

[1254] And I was like, I don't like these questions because you like them all.

[1255] Do I like Pulp Fiction more or Fog of War?

[1256] Yeah.

[1257] I like them both.

[1258] And then I was just thinking we're so inclined to try to rank everything.

[1259] Yeah, we are.

[1260] And I think it's probably like an outgrowth of our own status obsession.

[1261] So we are obsessed with our own personal status So then anything in our worldview We start ranking as well into status But it's just pointless Like I like documentaries and I love the wire But it's kind of good to know favorites In some ways because it gets you excited Like I know that that's a favorite So I'm already excited for next year To go back to a favorite hotel Oh right, right, right, right.

[1262] Yes, yes But I'm just saying I'm arguing for like multiple favorite.

[1263] Yeah, I like that.

[1264] The tier system, as we've talked about.

[1265] As Mindy says, yes, yes.

[1266] She says, best friend is a tier, not a person.

[1267] Yeah, it's really clever.

[1268] She was in Hawaii.

[1269] No. Not at our Hawaii.

[1270] Oh.

[1271] But I saw on Instagram.

[1272] Yeah.

[1273] No, there couldn't have been.

[1274] But she was in, I saw on Instagram.

[1275] She was in Hawaii.

[1276] And then I kept looking around for her.

[1277] I was trying to figure out where she was based on the pictures.

[1278] I thought maybe Turtle Bay.

[1279] But no. Kauai or Maui or...

[1280] By the end, she posted a picture and it had a location tag Maui.

[1281] Oh, okay.

[1282] It had a look...

[1283] She just put a descriptor up top?

[1284] Just Maui.

[1285] Okay, okay, right, right.

[1286] So she was probably at the original...

[1287] Four Seasons.

[1288] Well, the original White Lotus location.

[1289] Yeah, Four Seasons.

[1290] One of the pictures, she had a wristband.

[1291] And she was with her kids, I think.

[1292] Okay.

[1293] So I didn't know if she went to Four Seasons because she might have gone to more kid -friendly place.

[1294] Right, sure.

[1295] Of course.

[1296] I had to do a lot of thinking about it, you know?

[1297] And did you have the Matt Damon thing where you thought you were going to bump into her all the time until you found out Maui?

[1298] I was hoping.

[1299] You were hoping.

[1300] You were looking around.

[1301] Wait, it was Maui, Mindy, Mindy Maui.

[1302] It's like a Barbie doll.

[1303] Mindy Maui.

[1304] Mindy Malie.

[1305] Oh, my God.

[1306] The new Barbie.

[1307] For God, I'll remember.

[1308] But, yeah, it was just very lovely.

[1309] Any gossip from the pod.

[1310] I missed.

[1311] I saw Eric and Molly yesterday.

[1312] Oh, you did?

[1313] Yeah, Lincoln desperately wanted to see Dahlia.

[1314] That was another thing.

[1315] Oh.

[1316] You know, they wanted to...

[1317] I know.

[1318] After a few days, they wanted to play.

[1319] I understand.

[1320] Yeah.

[1321] I haven't cracked this code yet.

[1322] I don't know what the ratio is for family time and then party time.

[1323] But at any rate, yeah, Lincoln very much want to see Dali.

[1324] And I believe Dahlia really wanted to see Lincoln.

[1325] Anyways, I was trying to get gossip out of them.

[1326] Yeah.

[1327] And what happened in this week I missed?

[1328] I know.

[1329] And you wouldn't get too drunk and fall over into a table.

[1330] No. There was nothing to, like we were walking out, Eric and I in the airport, and it was like, no drama.

[1331] No drama.

[1332] There's not even like mini drama.

[1333] Probably because I wasn't there.

[1334] I probably caused all the drama.

[1335] That is not it.

[1336] That's not it at all.

[1337] It just was like, it was just relaxed.

[1338] What was your sleep schedule while you were there?

[1339] Were you getting tons of Zs?

[1340] Medium Zs.

[1341] Aziz.

[1342] Not time.

[1343] Oh, Zs?

[1344] Do you get tons of Zs or Aziz?

[1345] I did okay.

[1346] You did.

[1347] I didn't do great.

[1348] I mean, time change in Hawaii is so...

[1349] It's on your side.

[1350] I do love it.

[1351] Yeah.

[1352] Because I like West Coast versus East Coast, you know.

[1353] Sure, yeah.

[1354] And this is that times three.

[1355] Yes.

[1356] So it was really exciting.

[1357] Times one, yeah.

[1358] Well, it was three hours.

[1359] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1360] It was like 11 a .m. And it was two, but it was 11.

[1361] I had so many hours.

[1362] left.

[1363] Yeah.

[1364] And if you sleep in till 10, you're up at 7 a .m. I know.

[1365] That's crazy.

[1366] So the first couple nights or mornings are so nice because you wake up so early.

[1367] I worked out two times in the gym.

[1368] Waits?

[1369] Treadmill.

[1370] Treadmill.

[1371] And then a little weights.

[1372] You did?

[1373] What exercises?

[1374] Squats.

[1375] Oh, real kidding.

[1376] Yeah, that's what I do if I'm going to do weights.

[1377] I didn't know that.

[1378] Yeah.

[1379] You can I ask, is that enough questions about the squats?

[1380] No, you can ask me. I don't do very many.

[1381] Do you have a bar on your back?

[1382] Are you just doing body weight squats?

[1383] I use a dumbbell.

[1384] Okay.

[1385] And then I squat and then I lift the dumbbell.

[1386] Drop it on the floor.

[1387] No, I like, you know, I'm holding two hands.

[1388] What you just mind was that you then let it fall on yourself.

[1389] No, two hands.

[1390] I just don't want to do it right now, but I like lift it, you know?

[1391] Oh, so you squat and then you come up and then you do a military press above your head.

[1392] Full body.

[1393] Yeah.

[1394] I'm just going to check that we're still recording.

[1395] Yeah, of course we are.

[1396] Oh, few.

[1397] No problem.

[1398] Few.

[1399] Okay, so while you were in the gym working out.

[1400] Just two days.

[1401] Okay, this reminds me, this is, I remembered what I was going to say.

[1402] Oh, wonderful.

[1403] Molly, are for Molly.

[1404] Yeah.

[1405] She knows every, like she will always run into someone she knows.

[1406] It's crazy.

[1407] Yeah.

[1408] She's a connector.

[1409] Yeah, super connector.

[1410] Super connector.

[1411] Sorry.

[1412] S .C. She, remember, she went to the Taylor's Swip concert in Vegas and saw someone she knew, but right behind her.

[1413] Like, that's crazy.

[1414] Same seats virtually.

[1415] Yeah.

[1416] This is her life.

[1417] So we get off the airplane immediately.

[1418] Like upon landing, she sees somebody she knows.

[1419] Uh -huh.

[1420] It's like, oh, my God.

[1421] And then multiple times throughout the trip.

[1422] What?

[1423] I know.

[1424] And at first.

[1425] Not the same people.

[1426] Just kept bumping into people.

[1427] Yes.

[1428] And at first, I was fully like, something's crazy.

[1429] Some stinks.

[1430] But then I remembered, oh, yeah.

[1431] If you live in L .A. Yeah, and you're, and you are of means.

[1432] It's spring break.

[1433] It's spring break.

[1434] And if you're of means, and your circle is of means.

[1435] Yes.

[1436] You're going to run in.

[1437] It's like my Florida.

[1438] Yes.

[1439] Yes, exactly.

[1440] It's like one of those things where it's like everything, the puzzle pieces come together.

[1441] Right.

[1442] Beautiful mind.

[1443] Because I'd never been to Hawaii before living here.

[1444] Of course.

[1445] That's not East Coast.

[1446] It's ridiculous.

[1447] Yeah, it's ridiculous.

[1448] The pipe dream.

[1449] Hawaii, that's something from an episode of Brady Bunch.

[1450] I know.

[1451] So that was interesting.

[1452] And then I thought, yeah, I guess this is the Panama City, but not Panama City because Panama City is so shitty.

[1453] Well, sorry.

[1454] We love it.

[1455] I mean, I had the best spring breaks ever there.

[1456] Yo, did you do multiple?

[1457] Yeah, in college we did multiple.

[1458] Oh, my God.

[1459] But everyone in like in the summers, I would go with my friends, only with my family didn't do beaches.

[1460] Right, yeah.

[1461] But you'd see people you knew because, of course, that's where everyone went.

[1462] Yes, yes.

[1463] Fun.

[1464] High school?

[1465] In high school, people went.

[1466] but I didn't.

[1467] I went skiing.

[1468] You went skiing, right.

[1469] And you also took a trip to the Smoky Mountains.

[1470] Gatlinburg.

[1471] That was...

[1472] Gatlinburg.

[1473] That was calling it.

[1474] Oh, my God, ding, ding, ding.

[1475] Yeah.

[1476] I said, apparently I flippantly said something about Gatlinburg being maybe boring or something.

[1477] Oh, sure.

[1478] And a lot of people in the comments were upset.

[1479] So first and foremost, my apologies to Gatlinberg.

[1480] I've not been there.

[1481] Then someone suggested, I think he was thinking of Gettysburg.

[1482] And guess what?

[1483] I think they might be right.

[1484] You were?

[1485] I don't know.

[1486] It all sounds civil warry, doesn't it?

[1487] Gatlinburg, Gettysburg.

[1488] Yeah.

[1489] The Gettysburg Address, that's a thing we learned in school.

[1490] Yep, that's a Lincoln thing.

[1491] Yeah.

[1492] No, I think you were thinking of Gatlinburg.

[1493] It is boring.

[1494] Okay.

[1495] Well, I've never been.

[1496] There was all kinds of fun things that were listed that you could do there.

[1497] And it turns out it's a really fun place.

[1498] So if you've got the time and you got the extra cash, go to Gatlinberg.

[1499] I was wrong and confused.

[1500] beautiful place Okay, yeah So Florida Florida Dot dot East Coast Dot dot dot dot Hawaii West Coast What?

[1501] Are you talking about time changes still?

[1502] Are the dots time zones?

[1503] No analogies Oh oh oh oh okay Okay Okay Dot dot is not correct I guess I should have said Is to as Uh huh Panama City is to Atlanta as Hawaii is to west side of Los Angeles.

[1504] Yeah.

[1505] Let's be honest.

[1506] Yeah, exactly.

[1507] Wow.

[1508] Okay.

[1509] Oh, I saw a post that your romantic massage therapist is visiting.

[1510] Yes.

[1511] Wow.

[1512] He's going to have a residency.

[1513] Is it a pop -up or a residency?

[1514] He's doing a pop -up.

[1515] No, he's doing a pop -up.

[1516] Okay, where at?

[1517] In your apartment?

[1518] I wish.

[1519] In Encino.

[1520] Oh, interesting.

[1521] Okay.

[1522] I think he got like a, he's doing like a home share or like a swap.

[1523] Oh, okay, Airbnb.

[1524] Oh, a swap.

[1525] House swap.

[1526] He'll be here in all of September and like a week into October, but he might add dates because.

[1527] He's already booked.

[1528] Yeah.

[1529] Oh, my God.

[1530] You think arm cherries.

[1531] Yeah.

[1532] He's very thankful.

[1533] Oh, good.

[1534] You're going to get a very special thank you, massage.

[1535] Yeah.

[1536] Oh, wow.

[1537] He said, of course, he'll make time for us.

[1538] Yeah, I'm sure he'll make all his evenings.

[1539] Are you going to get one?

[1540] Yeah, totally.

[1541] Okay, good.

[1542] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1543] We were discussing this, Molly and I, we were like, who of the boys are going to get it?

[1544] Obviously, Dax.

[1545] I said Charlie, yes.

[1546] Right.

[1547] And I said, I think that's it.

[1548] Yeah, so interesting.

[1549] Can you walk me through?

[1550] Mm -hmm.

[1551] Yeah, yeah.

[1552] Well, you, for a million reasons, but for, First and foremost, the story.

[1553] Oh, that's a good point.

[1554] Like, you need to go, because you need to understand.

[1555] I need to have an opinion when he comes up.

[1556] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1557] Charlie, I felt, was a no -brainer because I just think he's not, this is weird.

[1558] I just, like, don't think he'd be uncomfortable at all.

[1559] Mm -hmm.

[1560] Mm -hmm.

[1561] Maybe it's just, like, because he's so comfortable with his body.

[1562] His body's so nice.

[1563] That he, oh, I got it.

[1564] So it's kind of like anyone that would be a. appreciating it, great.

[1565] Maybe.

[1566] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1567] Maybe there's something like that.

[1568] Yeah, and then mine was, I'm just a purve, right?

[1569] Like, whatever.

[1570] Yeah, you just want to like, what's going to happen?

[1571] Yeah, like, scared and titillated.

[1572] But I was thinking, like, what if he starts massaging my lower stomach?

[1573] He might.

[1574] Because that's part of his thing, right?

[1575] Well, I don't know how he is with men.

[1576] That's the whole thing we have to figure out.

[1577] We do.

[1578] Because he only takes men by appointment.

[1579] I mean like by like Well how does that differ It takes walkins from women No you're right No but I mean he Or by request or something Oh okay You gotta go You gotta know somebody Yeah Okay Yeah I think he prefers women Well It sounds pretty Yeah I'm pretty sure That's the preference Well also I think he prefers women Because he's so intuitive Intuitive right He's just tuned in I think maybe he thinks men Will be more reluctant And I think that's right Sure, sure, sure.

[1580] Yeah, men, some percentage of men are very nervous of men are touching them.

[1581] Right, exactly.

[1582] Yeah, yeah.

[1583] So that chance.

[1584] It's funny, I've had a barrage of experiences.

[1585] So, first of foremost, I've had a massage by men a bunch of times, probably a dozen times.

[1586] I'm totally fine with it.

[1587] And often when it's happening, I think, well, this is the way to go.

[1588] They're so much heavier and stronger, let's just say, in general.

[1589] Yeah.

[1590] So they can really fuck you up in a good way.

[1591] But I also can acknowledge I was one time at Burke Williams and there was a man massage and he was huge.

[1592] He was like a big burly man. And he had so much arm hair.

[1593] And when he was doing my back and using his forearms, I could just feel so much man hair.

[1594] And I didn't like that.

[1595] That was for me. I was like, I don't want to feel a man's hairy arms on my back.

[1596] I get that.

[1597] What I really don't like in a massage is when.

[1598] like they're doing something with one hand and the other hand's just like accidentally touching you oh okay haphazardly touching you yeah like it's not supposed it's not thoughtful yeah i don't like that you don't like i'd always move my leg a little bit if it's if it if it's getting brushed on accident i don't like that right makes you uncomp like hair on arms is to dax as limp unintentional hand is to dot dot yeah monica that's right yeah so I got a massage on this trip it was nice but from a boy or girl it was for it was a girl it was for a girl it was for a girl by a girl for a girl so I guess guys keep your eyes peeled for the next round if he decides to stay yes because sounds like it might be a permanent pop -up with the amount of clientele I'm excited and nervous for him because I think people will be coming with the expect of making love you know a little bit he doesn't want to you know like he takes it really seriously i know i'm sorry i even brought that up but i have to imagine some people you can want to guys but you're not gonna because he takes it seriously it's his art yeah charlie made a good point about it he said he can't cross a line because it is so sensual like that's part of it yes really like you know If even the tiniest line was crossed, it would immediately...

[1599] Well, it's like a big trust exercise.

[1600] Yes, yes.

[1601] It would make it bad and nasty.

[1602] So, no need to worry about that.

[1603] Or, sorry to disappoint you.

[1604] Either way.

[1605] Or it might happen.

[1606] No, it's not going to happen.

[1607] It's not going to happen.

[1608] Anyway, so when you were talking about deciding what movies were your favorite, categories, documentary.

[1609] documentary.

[1610] I watched a really interesting doc.

[1611] Which one?

[1612] MH370.

[1613] Have you watched it yet?

[1614] No, what's that?

[1615] Oh, is that the airplane one?

[1616] Yes.

[1617] Okay, I started it and I...

[1618] You didn't like it?

[1619] I must have been distracted.

[1620] It starts a little slow, right?

[1621] Yeah.

[1622] Maybe I got my phone out, whatever.

[1623] I didn't stick with it.

[1624] Oh, no. I didn't dislike it, but you love it?

[1625] Well, I just, it's crazy.

[1626] I mean, of course I knew this plane vanished.

[1627] Yeah.

[1628] But this was 2014.

[1629] We don't know what happened.

[1630] Really?

[1631] They didn't find pieces or anything?

[1632] There's one piece that they found sort of recently.

[1633] Uh -huh.

[1634] But there's some controversy about whether it is part of that.

[1635] I mean, I think it is because other planes would have known.

[1636] But it's a small piece.

[1637] This is a Boeing 777.

[1638] This is a Boeing 777.

[1639] 777.

[1640] Cool.

[1641] They kept saying on the dock, because these are all people who know, they kept calling it a Boeing triple seven.

[1642] I don't think I'm cool enough for that.

[1643] I think you are.

[1644] Okay.

[1645] So Boeing triple seven.

[1646] Oh, nice.

[1647] So it was a big boy.

[1648] Yeah.

[1649] And that's the whole, it's this huge ass plane, 239 people.

[1650] Ooh.

[1651] And nothing?

[1652] Come on.

[1653] It's weird.

[1654] The ocean's big and unforgiving.

[1655] I know.

[1656] But they felt like they could locate ish where potentially.

[1657] Eventually, it would have, depending on these different theories, and they, you know, they scoured.

[1658] They didn't see anything.

[1659] It's a big ocean.

[1660] That big for a full plane?

[1661] Yes.

[1662] That's never happened.

[1663] It's never happened?

[1664] I don't think.

[1665] Besides Amelia Earhart.

[1666] Oh, my gosh.

[1667] I know.

[1668] Maybe they're in the same place.

[1669] It was sad.

[1670] All these family members.

[1671] Uh -huh.

[1672] And I mean this kindly.

[1673] They start believing in stuff that I. I think is implausible.

[1674] And I understand that, like, this one guy, his wife and children.

[1675] Ooh.

[1676] I mean, you have no choice but to go crazy.

[1677] Yeah.

[1678] If you have no answers and it's your family, like, oh, so sad.

[1679] Yeah.

[1680] But I want you to watch it because there's three theories.

[1681] Okay.

[1682] And you want me to vote on because you believe in one.

[1683] Well, there's two that I think are absolutely ridiculous.

[1684] One that I think is so ridiculous.

[1685] Okay.

[1686] Another is a little more plausible.

[1687] Okay.

[1688] And then the third is very plausible, which is the captain.

[1689] Went crazy.

[1690] Yeah.

[1691] Yeah, I think someone who had seen it told me that they thought the captain went crazy.

[1692] Yeah.

[1693] Was it Eric?

[1694] Yep.

[1695] Because we all watch, well, sort of.

[1696] So Charlie watched it on the plane.

[1697] What a gangster.

[1698] That is.

[1699] That's bold.

[1700] So bold.

[1701] Even if you're fine with watching it, you've got to imagine.

[1702] that the people next to you don't want to see that exactly he was watching on the plane to hawaii then eric watched it while in hawaii okay where were you watching it during your massage no i watched it when i got home thank god i'm so glad i didn't watch it right before because you would have hated that flight home across the big ocean and we had a weird moment on the plane right when we were about to land it like went back up yeah did not like it you had to come back around again for another landing?

[1703] Yes.

[1704] You did.

[1705] Oh, yeah.

[1706] That's spooky.

[1707] And I had to circle.

[1708] And I was staring out the window.

[1709] And I thought, because I was in first class.

[1710] Oh, of course.

[1711] I know that.

[1712] And everyone else was not.

[1713] No one else was.

[1714] Yeah, of course.

[1715] So then I thought, what do I do?

[1716] Do I go back there and tell one of them to come up?

[1717] Like, I didn't know what to do.

[1718] Uh -huh.

[1719] And I didn't know what they were thinking back there.

[1720] If they could even see because they're in code.

[1721] Like, like.

[1722] I don't know what you can see in coach.

[1723] And then I thought, what would happen would be Ryan and Eric?

[1724] Because Charlie wasn't on the plane.

[1725] Oh, because they had left earlier?

[1726] They left later.

[1727] So I thought, I guess Ryan and Eric will come together or like, because in my head, it was he's going crazy, the captain.

[1728] Oh, right, because, okay.

[1729] So I guess I need Ryan to, like, restrain.

[1730] And then Eric knows how to fly plane.

[1731] bless you maca it's not me bless your heart not me bless you though thank you did it cross your mind oh what if this crashes and only the people in first are saying or vice versa or you're penalized for your opulence and only coach lives I hadn't thought about that at all I would have gone probably straight really really you know I thought wow if we all die that would probably be sad for Dax and Kristen a lot of us dead the most devastating thing world got to go to eight funerals yeah it's a lot of like scheduling yeah yeah we'd be like a page one rewrite we'd have to start completely from scratch yeah well you'd have Charlie and Erica wouldn't have a podcast anymore that's yeah that's true make an unfortunate call to Spotify or you could do a spin off on grieving yeah loss exactly huge armchair depression oh wow Oh, AD?

[1732] Yeah.

[1733] Well, anyway, that didn't happen.

[1734] Thank God.

[1735] But it was weird.

[1736] I did not like it.

[1737] And if I had watched that thing, absolutely not.

[1738] A mess.

[1739] Yeah.

[1740] So I got home and I was on Hawaii time, so I had time to watch TV.

[1741] Uh -huh.

[1742] Yeah.

[1743] I turned it on.

[1744] And four minutes in, I was like, this was a horrible idea.

[1745] By the way, I kind of regret picking this time because for you, it was probably so early.

[1746] Did you have a hard time waking up at by 10?

[1747] No, I had therapy at 9.

[1748] Oh, wow.

[1749] Wow.

[1750] Okay.

[1751] Was it hard to wake up?

[1752] Yeah.

[1753] It was.

[1754] Okay.

[1755] Are you a sweepie?

[1756] But I had to do it for her.

[1757] Yeah.

[1758] For her.

[1759] Because I rescheduled a few times.

[1760] So I don't think I gave it my all.

[1761] Your therapy?

[1762] Yeah.

[1763] Oh, you kind of phoned it in.

[1764] Like I would forget words.

[1765] Yeah.

[1766] Like I'd start talking and then halfway through it, I wouldn't really remember.

[1767] Did she say at any point, are you feeling okay?

[1768] No. Okay, good.

[1769] So then it wasn't bad.

[1770] I did say at the beginning, I'm a little on, I'm still on Hawaii time.

[1771] I'm on Hawaii time.

[1772] I'm on island time.

[1773] Yeah, exactly.

[1774] It was still good.

[1775] It was still good.

[1776] Even if you're like half checked out, therapy is still good.

[1777] Yeah.

[1778] It's better than not.

[1779] Uh -huh.

[1780] So three theories.

[1781] So you should watch.

[1782] I'll watch for sure.

[1783] But like I also felt if the captain didn't go crazy, everyone thinks that and he's dead and so sad.

[1784] He's got a family presumably.

[1785] I don't like it.

[1786] And he seems normal.

[1787] But you never know.

[1788] People snap.

[1789] You don't know.

[1790] But if you got to end it, let's just keep it to yourself.

[1791] Right.

[1792] That's the part I don't.

[1793] That's really diabol.

[1794] Especially because the theory around him going nuts is not a, it's not like a terrorist act.

[1795] Right.

[1796] It's just like a murder -suicide thing.

[1797] Yes.

[1798] Which I don't understand that because what's the point?

[1799] Obviously, terrorism's horrible.

[1800] But in their head, there's like a point.

[1801] They're making a statement.

[1802] Okay, here's a crazy thing.

[1803] Maybe this was addressed in the program.

[1804] Yeah.

[1805] Did he get an insurance policy if he died at work?

[1806] say is if I want to kill myself, the last thing I want to do is go to work before I kill myself.

[1807] Yeah, but I think it's like, let me just do this yard work and then I'll do it.

[1808] Or let me just do this eight -hour job I don't want to do.

[1809] That seems weird unless you no, they didn't on the job paid out better to your family.

[1810] They didn't talk about that.

[1811] So my guess is, they should have introduced that.

[1812] Is it too late for a fourth episode?

[1813] Let's go back.

[1814] Let's go back.

[1815] I'll watch it, but I'm also going to make a fourth episode.

[1816] Oh, I didn't, can I tell you?

[1817] one thing that's kind of, I think, fun.

[1818] Yeah.

[1819] So on this trip to Big Bear, very little to do, we decided to show the girl's parenthood.

[1820] Oh, my God.

[1821] Which I have not watched in 13 years.

[1822] It's such a good show.

[1823] I, as soon as they showed Craig T. Nelson, I was inconsolably sobbing.

[1824] You were?

[1825] Oh, like, couldn't handle it.

[1826] You missed it so much?

[1827] Yes, I missed him so much.

[1828] much.

[1829] I thought I was thinking about how beautiful and special he is and how lucky I was.

[1830] And then they show that stupid little Beebe's face, May, or their chubby little young face.

[1831] Yeah.

[1832] And crying all over again.

[1833] Then the show itself, A, I was so inside of it.

[1834] I couldn't really view it in a way of you would.

[1835] So A, the time.

[1836] So I forgot everything that happens.

[1837] So I know what's going to happen maybe i vaguely remember what i did yeah and then also i didn't have children when that show was on yeah oh yeah so i was the first three episodes i was crying completely uncontrollably for like a full hour at a time i felt so much gratitude that's like just the um floodgate of gratitude yeah so lucky i don't have regret because like i like i I was aware of it while it was happening.

[1838] You know, a lot of people say they miss things.

[1839] Like, I heard Seinfeld on Stern saying, like, he basically missed the experience of Seinfeld because he was so concentrated on it being good or the ratings or this or that.

[1840] Yeah.

[1841] So I was very present for it.

[1842] Yeah.

[1843] Even with that, I think the amount of gratitude and what a sweet period of time it was that's gone.

[1844] Yeah.

[1845] But boy, did I. And by the way, this sounds so gross to say, I think, because I'm on the show.

[1846] I loved it.

[1847] The show is so good, Monica.

[1848] I know, I've been telling you.

[1849] I know.

[1850] It's incredible.

[1851] The pilot is so hard to make a good pilot.

[1852] I know.

[1853] Especially when you're introducing 13 characters.

[1854] And it's a fucking, the first episode, the banger.

[1855] Tommy Shlami, great job.

[1856] And then straight into Larry Trilling.

[1857] Oh, man, I was a mess.

[1858] So now we're, I think we're on episode like 12 or something.

[1859] We watch it at night now and it's so fun for me to watch.

[1860] Oh, my God.

[1861] My hair is so out of control on that show.

[1862] It's insane.

[1863] I can't believe no one's...

[1864] What do you mean?

[1865] I'm sure they tried to tell me. No, it's just long.

[1866] It's so long and like, it needs to be style.

[1867] No. It's just a big sheet of hair.

[1868] It looks...

[1869] I feel like it's good for the character.

[1870] This is a Easter egg.

[1871] Oh, it is?

[1872] Oh, it is.

[1873] For an upcoming guest.

[1874] By the way, that was part of, I think, why it was on front of mine, as you say.

[1875] Yeah.

[1876] At front of mine.

[1877] Top of mine.

[1878] Pop, okay, and they'll never get it.

[1879] Triple seven, big boy in the sky.

[1880] Fowing, Triple seven.

[1881] Ritter.

[1882] Oh, my God.

[1883] Is that the first season?

[1884] Yes, Mr. Sear.

[1885] Oh, my God.

[1886] Holy shit.

[1887] So charming.

[1888] The mouse.

[1889] When he's looking at her, I'm like, kiss me, Jason.

[1890] Kiss me, Monheer.

[1891] What's your, Missus is, no. Not Aaron.

[1892] and you're massage therapist.

[1893] Oh, Laurent.

[1894] Lauren.

[1895] Kiss me, Laurent.

[1896] Oh, my God.

[1897] I just couldn't believe the amount of charm that Jason Ridder has.

[1898] Everyone in that show is very charming.

[1899] And Peter's so great.

[1900] So great.

[1901] And the girls love, they love Lauren's character in May. That whole storyline.

[1902] What a show.

[1903] All right.

[1904] McConaughey, Fess.

[1905] Yeah.

[1906] Now, the math, wordle.

[1907] Oh, right.

[1908] Yeah.

[1909] What's that called?

[1910] Nerdle.

[1911] Nurtle.

[1912] Yeah.

[1913] Okay.

[1914] Have you played that one?

[1915] No. I like it.

[1916] It's good.

[1917] I'll be bad at that.

[1918] It's not that hard.

[1919] Really?

[1920] But you have to be fast.

[1921] No, not at all.

[1922] Same thing you get like seven guesses or whatever, the premise of word -old -olds.

[1923] Yep.

[1924] Doesn't sound like my strong suit.

[1925] But Bill Gates loves it.

[1926] I know.

[1927] It is his strong suit.

[1928] We have to get good at it if we want to hang out with him.

[1929] Okay, fine.

[1930] That's enough.

[1931] I'll do it.

[1932] Okay, does Putin have filler?

[1933] Oh, I can answer that.

[1934] Well, yeah, you said it.

[1935] Yeah, he's got about a gallon.

[1936] Yeah.

[1937] Upwards of a gallon.

[1938] A Sydney cosmetic doctor has called out Putin for having, quote, too much filler.

[1939] Quote too much.

[1940] Like, that's a medical diagnosis.

[1941] Yeah.

[1942] They said botched cosmetic work.

[1943] Okay.

[1944] Well, look, he's, it's hard to be sympathetic to Putin, but he's this aging man who is, is trading on.

[1945] Oh, yeah.

[1946] Oh, wow, it's bigger than I thought.

[1947] The face has gotten twice the width.

[1948] It's really big.

[1949] He's this aging man who's trying to project a image of virility and strength.

[1950] Yes.

[1951] He's ruling with an iron fist.

[1952] Yep.

[1953] But he's like everyone else, myself included, he's just withering away and getting old and decrepit.

[1954] He occasionally does these workout.

[1955] But he's ever seen his workout video?

[1956] Anytime I see one, I send it to Charlie.

[1957] He works out extra fast.

[1958] Like, and I think he's trying to show the people's like, this is not, not.

[1959] There isn't enough weight for me. So his reps are way too fast.

[1960] It looks absurd like it's in fast forward.

[1961] Oh, my God.

[1962] And the filler's bouncing around and the jug.

[1963] Oh.

[1964] Mm -hmm.

[1965] He's trying his hardest to seem, you know, potent.

[1966] Even monsters have filler.

[1967] That's right.

[1968] That's a children's book.

[1969] Is it?

[1970] I mean, it could be.

[1971] It should be.

[1972] Yeah.

[1973] Even monsters have filler.

[1974] Okay.

[1975] So he says he's a Scorpio.

[1976] Putin calls himself?

[1977] No, no, no, I'm sorry.

[1978] Matthew McConaughey.

[1979] I've moved on.

[1980] Oh, okay.

[1981] He's a Scorpio?

[1982] Yes, and I wanted to read some traits about Scorpio's.

[1983] Oh, let's find out.

[1984] Let's see if this tracks.

[1985] Scorpio traits and personality explained.

[1986] Water element.

[1987] Hmm.

[1988] Along with cancer and Pisces.

[1989] Okay.

[1990] Scorpios are strong, enigmatic, independent characters who crackle with an intensity and charisma that makes them unignorable.

[1991] That's...

[1992] On brand.

[1993] Really good.

[1994] For all of that power, though, they often remain unknowable to others because they guard themselves in their private lives fiercely.

[1995] Hmm.

[1996] Huh.

[1997] Ooh, you can bet there's something juicy going on under the wraps, though, because Scorpio's like extremes, challenges, danger, and darkness.

[1998] That sounds really on point.

[1999] It does.

[2000] And actually, you know, he is both an open book and he's guarded.

[2001] Scorpios are loyal, smart, shrewd, and stoic.

[2002] They stand by their beliefs, and they don't crave anyone else's approval.

[2003] Oh, wow.

[2004] What a state of being.

[2005] Right.

[2006] Okay.

[2007] Now, that's from Cosmo.

[2008] Hold on.

[2009] I'm going to go to co -star.

[2010] Okay.

[2011] Our favorite.

[2012] To cross -check?

[2013] Yeah.

[2014] And let's just check in on ours, you know?

[2015] Sure.

[2016] The newest one, this was from Adago.

[2017] Breaking the rules.

[2018] Okay.

[2019] Breaking the rules for you, Capricorn.

[2020] starts a business selling their old college essays to students Fine It's not like a It's not a bull's eye Didn't send a shivers up my spine No PQs Virgo breaking the rules Accidentally cut in line one time And we'll never forget it A little closer Closer, closer Okay Kristen cancer Breaking the Rules says I love you on the first date Oh that's good Okay, Matthew, Scorpio, Peaks at people's diaries when left alone in their rooms.

[2021] Whoa.

[2022] I know.

[2023] Predatorial.

[2024] Okay, here's another.

[2025] Oh, okay, this is, this one's good.

[2026] Okay, ready?

[2027] Desperately wants you to notice.

[2028] Oh, no. I'm afraid of this one.

[2029] No, yours is, I think yours is right and good.

[2030] Okay.

[2031] Desperately wants you to notice Capricorn, how goddamn hard they're trying.

[2032] Oh, okay.

[2033] Yeah.

[2034] Yeah.

[2035] Okay, but get ready for this.

[2036] Okay.

[2037] Virgo.

[2038] V. The silent, invisible work they do to keep everyone around them afloat.

[2039] Oh, yes, yes, yes.

[2040] So spot on.

[2041] That's a good one.

[2042] Okay.

[2043] Cancer, desperately wants you to notice the subtext beneath what they're actually saying.

[2044] Fine, fine.

[2045] Ish, fine.

[2046] Desperately wants you to notice, Scorpio, literally nothing.

[2047] Wow.

[2048] Again, back to the doesn't need approval, apparently.

[2049] Okay.

[2050] Well, I can't recommend co -star enough.

[2051] Yes, yeah, I like it.

[2052] It's gotten me to believe in astrology.

[2053] It hooked you.

[2054] Yeah.

[2055] That was it.

[2056] That was it.

[2057] Yeah.

[2058] Okay, I wasn't a very fact, have you won.

[2059] No. No, it wasn't.

[2060] But he's a hoot.

[2061] He delivers.

[2062] Yeah, I love him.

[2063] Such a character.

[2064] He is.

[2065] I want to watch.

[2066] him and Russell Brand have a conversation.

[2067] What would be fun about that is they have opposite tempos.

[2068] Russell Brand's talking so fast.

[2069] McConaughey's taking his sweet time.

[2070] So much time.

[2071] He is.

[2072] Tom's on your side.

[2073] Shake hands with it.

[2074] And by the day and have a glass of lemonade with it as your friend.

[2075] Sit down and snuggle with time.

[2076] Oh.

[2077] You got all day.

[2078] It's a lazy afternoon of time.

[2079] Oh, my God.

[2080] Well, anyways, he's so fun.

[2081] fun.

[2082] Welcome home.

[2083] I'm so excited to be back.

[2084] Me too.

[2085] Back at it.

[2086] I really miss our job when we're not doing it.

[2087] Me too.

[2088] I mean like insanely amount.

[2089] Do you think if I did die in that plane crash and then in 10 years you listened back like you did for parenthood?

[2090] You'd pride like you cried.

[2091] Probably kill myself, yeah.

[2092] Okay.

[2093] That's good.

[2094] Yeah, for sure.

[2095] Absolutely.

[2096] Because I'm a little jealous of that story.

[2097] Oh, you are.

[2098] I mean, not, I mean, I'm really, I get it because it's the best show ever.

[2099] So I'm imagine that the experience was so good.

[2100] Yeah, but like it's identical to this one, which is like, you and I know this is the gift of all gifts.

[2101] And we do experience it.

[2102] I don't think we ever take it for granted.

[2103] And I think we're very present in our gratitude for it.

[2104] Yeah.

[2105] Yet in 15 years, yeah.

[2106] It's going to be like 10x mind blowing.

[2107] Yeah.

[2108] I just know it will, just like parenthood was.

[2109] Right.

[2110] It's like, oh, you just don't end up on a show like that.

[2111] Yeah.

[2112] You don't like everyone you work with like you're in love with everyone you work with yeah it's so nice yeah so we have that too okay you're gonna find yourself looking at a picture of wabiwob and you're gonna fucking start choking sobbing and you're gonna go he was the sweetest little rascal that anyone ever was well i hope he's still with us yeah this is whatever post okay this is 50 years from now yeah yeah exactly i'm a hundred I think it won't be quite a hundred yet, 98.

[2113] Yeah, and by then we'll be living to 200, so.

[2114] Oh, yeah.

[2115] Awesome.

[2116] I'm going to get back at it.

[2117] Can't wait.

[2118] All right, I love you.

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