47 - Live at The Bell House

[0] This is exactly right.

[1] Hey, this is exciting.

[2] An all -new season of only murders in the building is coming to Hulu on August 27th.

[3] Steve Martin, Martin Short, and Selena Gomez are back as your favorite podcaster, detectives.

[4] But there's a mystery hanging over everyone.

[5] Who killed Saz?

[6] And were they really after Charles?

[7] Why would someone want to kill Charles?

[8] This season, murder hits close to home.

[9] With a threat against one of their own, the stakes are higher than ever.

[10] Plus, the gang is going to Hollywood to turn their podcast into a major movie.

[11] Amid the glitz and glamour of Los Angeles, more mysteries and twists arise.

[12] Who knows what will happen once the cameras start to roll?

[13] Get ready for the stariest season yet with Merrill Streep, Zach Alfinacus, Eugene Levy, Eva Longoria, Melissa McCarthy, DeVine, Joy Randolph, Molly Shannon, and more.

[14] Only Martyrs in the Building, premieres August 27th, streaming only on Hulu.

[15] Goodbye.

[16] This is our conference about global warming.

[17] It's not the problem you think it is.

[18] We're going to tell you, don't worry about the ice sheet disappearing.

[19] No, no, no. It's going to be better.

[20] You're going to die so much sooner than that happens.

[21] Who cares?

[22] The best is dying.

[23] About it.

[24] We're talking to each other and to Andrew here at the bellhouse about it.

[25] And here we are.

[26] We booked this gig ourselves.

[27] And so we did it.

[28] Yeah, we were like, it doesn't matter.

[29] We should do it probably.

[30] a small, intimate venue.

[31] We're really excited about this.

[32] We have a guest, a murderino story, or time.

[33] Yeah, that's right.

[34] And we might have a surprise guest later.

[35] But we don't know.

[36] What?

[37] That's not a surprise.

[38] Huge surprise later.

[39] Tom Cruise is a surprise.

[40] Oh, my God.

[41] Tom Cruise loves killing.

[42] You know he does.

[43] For sure.

[44] I bet the way, if Tom Cruise was a murderer, he would just bite people to death.

[45] You know he's got some fucking titanium teeth like hidden in there?

[46] I think next time we should ask for like wireless Janet Jackson mics so we can just really roam the stage as we clearly want, yeah do some black cat before we actually sit down.

[47] Can I get some murder in my mind?

[48] Anything.

[49] I would just want to show everybody I don't know if you know, but we were at Sephora earlier.

[50] Hence all the makeup on my face.

[51] I have so much lipstick on right now.

[52] Now, this is the closest I could get to the crown Elizabeth lip color.

[53] Thank you, very much.

[54] Thank you.

[55] I'm not going to tell you.

[56] Wow.

[57] I fucking hate that.

[58] It's mine.

[59] The fucking audacity?

[60] I'm kidding, you're sweet.

[61] I love you.

[62] Are you B -onkers or what?

[63] That's my friend Millie's saying, be -onkers.

[64] Hi, Millie.

[65] we actually were in Sephora a very crowded Brooklyn Sephora and I was squatted down putting every color of lip and eye thing I could on my face and Georgia had immediately broken off from me and begun to get a makeover and I at one point I crossed an aisle and there was just a woman doing this and Georgia's just standing there getting her face brush I actually kind of hated it because I was like what color about that?

[66] me and I want you to hand it to me I don't want you to use your fucking brushes that you've done every fucking person in the world for the past fucking 24 hours and like maybe put some alcohol on it and I'm like I just was like I'm breaking out yeah as we speak you pulled it off well I thought you were really enjoying yourself I just didn't hurt her feelings but I wanted to be like don't touch me with that fucking brush um well yeah at Sephora there's gonna be there's gonna be a germ issue for sure but also you know what I don't like is like they ask if they can help you and I do want a very specific kind of help yeah But I don't want, they always try to get you to let them do your fit.

[67] It's like, no, I just want to know the exact number of the top lip line.

[68] That's what I mean.

[69] She was like, well, first take your makeup off and then come over here and I'm like, no. Fuck.

[70] Get out of here.

[71] I know, I know.

[72] I was like, just put and put it on top, dude.

[73] Like, that's what I'm going to do.

[74] Anyways.

[75] So you broke off to have that happen to you.

[76] I was off by myself squatting.

[77] like a fucking weirdo and then I hear you know like when you're in a public place I don't know if you're like me in a public place if I hear someone go like blah blah blah I never think it's to me and she turned and gave me the she did one of these of like don't fucking you know like she didn't know I was talking about her no I just don't like shouting and the girl goes oh she just gave us a dirty look the girl who had been like I'm a huge fan of the podcast and I was like fuck you I'm looking at eye shadow right now But I just thought it was a teen shouting at a public place And I wanted to show them that that's not allowed And instead it was a girl who worked at Sephora Even better, a girl who worked at Sephora Who liked our podcast And like, how do you know that we are in person?

[78] Because of our lip colors She knows our shit It's crap It was super fun after I stopped being super bitchy to her I was just at dinner down the street and these two sweet girls at a table they weren't even obnoxious they were like, hey we're gonna go see a show in a minute and I was like, thank you and I was there.

[79] Is that you?

[80] Now they're fucking obnoxious.

[81] Everyone's here, everyone's watching.

[82] It's because I sugared them up because I bought them fucking chocolate cake.

[83] And I was like, what the fuck is wrong with you?

[84] I was like, send them some cake.

[85] And you like, do you know them?

[86] That's so Hollywood of you.

[87] Big timing it.

[88] I'll send you cake Ford $8 cake Yeah I can cake Eat the cake That's not a mic That's a beer Eat her cake Eat her cake Eat the cake She sends to you Guys anyhow We gotta go Live show corner Oh Karen It's fine It's fine You have a lifesaver This is just a mint in case I get worried later on It's weird Gotta have that shit with you we should have asked for some kind of a break point up there like what I was thinking private a private shelf sneeze area they couldn't see through so we could have all our secrets what if we have a fucking frame photo of Stephen and the cats up there is that weird would you imagine how great this Christmas would be sorry he actually is babysitting the cats I feel like every time we do a live show when he's babysitting the cats it's like how it should be that's right him away and us here we had drinking and all the glory and him doing the work like Cinderella yeah yes yes damon I'm gonna start calling him Steve from now on because he's so he's such a like if there's anywhere in the world he belongs it's like Brooklyn he's got the like he's got the like uneven hair and a tiny borderline Hitler mustache where I'm like that could be problematic if you lived anywhere else he's such a Stephen so calling him Steve Would be such a fucking insult?

[89] I love it.

[90] It's like, Steve.

[91] Fucking jean jacket much, Steve.

[92] Pick me up in your dad's truck, Steve.

[93] Oh, an angel.

[94] Oh, anyway.

[95] Annie Housel.

[96] It started snowing in New York.

[97] That's...

[98] Thanks, you guys.

[99] I had better hair earlier, but then the snow came.

[100] I have really cute coats that don't do anything.

[101] Georgia, when I met Georgia today, This is the first time we met.

[102] We met, and we really get along.

[103] I met her on the street corner, and she is wearing the thinnest...

[104] I think it's a coat that Jane Fonda wore in Clute.

[105] Like, it's just a very thin, body -shaping, top -colored coat.

[106] It's like, where in the world is Carmen San Diego coat, right?

[107] Yes, but with a smaller lapel.

[108] And I was like, are you dying in that coat?

[109] What do you do?

[110] She doesn't give a fuck, you guys.

[111] No, I do give a fuck.

[112] I just act like I don't.

[113] Oh.

[114] That's the secret to not giving a fuck.

[115] Oh, okay.

[116] You just feel it deep down inside?

[117] Yeah.

[118] What if we were already getting the light?

[119] End it now.

[120] You guys, fucking cut.

[121] You guys end on a high note.

[122] That's kind of low.

[123] Bye.

[124] We just kind of updated you on our day.

[125] Bye.

[126] And then we're going to leave.

[127] Oh, oh, I went to a bar on Friday night called the Vince.

[128] Where's Vince?

[129] What's it called?

[130] He's not even fucking here?

[131] Oh, God, he left your own show.

[132] Like, fucking husband?

[133] You have to get divorced.

[134] That's a bar.

[135] What?

[136] Mederros.

[137] Thank you.

[138] I don't know.

[139] That is not her husband.

[140] So I was at this bar.

[141] I think it was like in, like, Cable Hill.

[142] And it was like a kind of a divey bar called Maderas.

[143] And like we ends up sitting, like, talking to locals, which is like only a thing you do in Brooklyn.

[144] It was like the coolest people.

[145] And like the fucking old -timer, like alcoholic dude, who was so cool was into fucking serial killers and then this like couple comes in and you can tell that they've been there a lot but they're like cool and young and he was a fucking criminal defense attorney.

[146] What?

[147] He was cute little baby with like dimples and his fucking girlfriend who was like so cute like this cute little hipster was a fucking she was a forensic what is auditor?

[148] A what?

[149] A forensic auditor.

[150] She's fucking, she audits shit and then she does taxes for dead people?

[151] Yes.

[152] And then she's, and then she's, she's like, you're going to jail, you fucking bad, man. So a company is like, this guy's doing something wrong, and she comes in there and does the books.

[153] And I'm like, badass.

[154] Like, chicks are good at math.

[155] Fuck you.

[156] We're not.

[157] But like, fuck you.

[158] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[159] And so we're saying it to me. No, I mean, fuck you.

[160] What are Roman numerals?

[161] I don't know.

[162] No one knows.

[163] So it was just like the best.

[164] And they were so cool.

[165] What is forensic about auditing, though?

[166] Well, forensic just means it's law.

[167] so it's one like I know I wanted there to be like a bone in a file or something I was like what is this part of a spine one heart plus one lung and six tap wounds equals the eight things you're going to jail motherfucker no it's just like I mean I felt bad for her she just has to sit in a room and do you know like like with her like calculator that seems fun don't feel bad for her they were but it was just like it was such a fucking it was great.

[168] You just got to have a real human experience.

[169] Yeah, with people who are obsessed with fucking deathy things.

[170] God bless.

[171] I know.

[172] I mean, that's us, right, everybody?

[173] Keep here.

[174] Murders here.

[175] And then we have a third person to present a murder, so we should bring her out now.

[176] Let's bring her out.

[177] She is our very good friend.

[178] You may have seen her on Girl Code.

[179] You may have seen her stand up all over the nation.

[180] You may have already pre -ordered her book.

[181] Oh, that's right.

[182] called Wed Wedellicious.

[183] An unfiltered guide to being a bride.

[184] I've done that.

[185] Have you guys been a bride?

[186] It's fucking terrifying and awful.

[187] What?

[188] I was just thinking about when I was, and I failed miserably soon after.

[189] Terrible and awful.

[190] Yeah.

[191] Hey, you guys.

[192] Why is that sad?

[193] Here's Jamie Lee.

[194] Jamie Lee.

[195] So, phony.

[196] Let's sit down.

[197] This is getting weird.

[198] I'm not supposed to be in the middle.

[199] Is this a guest to be in this?

[200] This is aggressive, this microphone.

[201] Okay.

[202] Isn't that angle that on down?

[203] It's a little bit in our faces.

[204] Let me go ahead and...

[205] Okay.

[206] I just bopped mine and it didn't move because that's not how Mike's work.

[207] Does this feel kind of like we're at South by Southwest?

[208] On a panel.

[209] Giving a panel about how CDs don't exist anymore.

[210] Guys, I brought you a gift.

[211] What?

[212] Yeah.

[213] Stop it.

[214] This is for both of you.

[215] What is it?

[216] You'll see.

[217] It's a kitten.

[218] What is a kitten?

[219] That's actually not far off.

[220] Um, so because Elvis, as he can't travel, he's at home because cats don't travel well.

[221] I got, I got you an Elvis understudy to bring with you on the road.

[222] Let's see it.

[223] It's Patsy, the podcast, El Pasn't she pluffy?

[224] Isn't she an Alpaca?

[225] Patsy.

[226] You know why?

[227] Do you know why she's named Patsy?

[228] No, why.

[229] Patsy, Jean -Beney Ramsey?

[230] Fuck, yeah.

[231] Or.

[232] mom bonnet ranzi that's not mom baney ram so you pack her with you and she'll bring you lots of luck and also get fur all over your clothes well alpaca her in our suitcases yeah i just like in her fur it's just like dashing in the light it's like the snow outside um i just like to tell a quick anecdote about when um so jamie lee and i sometimes take our dogs to the same dog park in los angeles and we ran into each other there, and she was asking me about this date, and this was a couple months ago, and said, because she was going to be in New York at the same time, and she was like, when is it?

[233] Because I don't want to go to that show.

[234] And I go, why don't you be the guest?

[235] And she goes, I wish I could explain.

[236] Sorry, that was really hard, but I wish I could explain her fucking one -direction reaction when I asked her to be the guest.

[237] It was the sweetest thing of all time.

[238] But then you texted me. And you were like, hey, is it cool if Jamie is the guest?

[239] I know, I already told her she's the guest.

[240] And I was like, of course.

[241] No, no, you were like, hey, how about Jamie Lee is the guest?

[242] I'm like, yes.

[243] And I'm like, good, because I already told her.

[244] Yeah, I already, I already asked it.

[245] Yeah, it was, thank fucking God.

[246] What if I was like, no?

[247] And here you are.

[248] Is this right?

[249] I don't know.

[250] I think super high.

[251] Oh, this feels good.

[252] Super high and tilted down like radio head?

[253] Should we?

[254] Let's get underneath it.

[255] Carver.

[256] Holy.

[257] Yes.

[258] I don't know what, I don't know how we, and what are we even.

[259] Everyone, listen.

[260] Oh, yeah, I like it up there.

[261] Everyone listening at home is like, what is happening right now?

[262] Listeners at home, you're missing nothing.

[263] There's a lot of mic work going on.

[264] Yeah.

[265] So who goes, who goes first in the situation?

[266] Let's make the guests go first.

[267] No, not fucking me. You go first.

[268] I don't know what I'm doing.

[269] Go first.

[270] Really?

[271] They're so nice.

[272] No, I will.

[273] Okay, guys.

[274] Are you going to be mad?

[275] am I going to be I'm like no and then afterwards I'm like Karen can I talk to for a minute in that really small bathroom back there should we do one of us and then Jamie and then I would love that sure okay yeah clearly I would love that just to get in the zone you know gotta warm up hey this is exciting an all new season of only murders in the building is coming to Hulu on August 27th Steve Martin Martin Short and Selena Gomez are back as your favorite podcaster detectives but there's a mystery hanging over everyone who killed saz and were they really after charles why would someone want to kill charles this season murder hits close to home with a threat against one of their own the stakes are higher than ever plus the gang is going to hollywood to turn their podcast into a major movie amid the glitz and glamour of los angeles more mysteries and twists arise who knows what'll happen once the cameras start to roll get ready for the stariest season yet with merrill streep zach alfenacus eugene levy eva longoria Melissa McCarthy, Devine, Joy Randolph, Molly Shannon, and more.

[276] Only Martyrs in the Building, premieres August 27th, streaming only on Hulu.

[277] Goodbye.

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[279] Absolutely.

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[298] Goodbye.

[299] I don't know who's rock, paper, scissors?

[300] Yeah.

[301] I don't know who goes first.

[302] Are you fucking super.

[303] I don't go first.

[304] No, no, no. I was just trying to think of who went first last time.

[305] Does anybody know who went first?

[306] I was like.

[307] Thank you.

[308] Thank you.

[309] My God.

[310] Okay.

[311] Can we get the notes last week's notes, please?

[312] Who's the secretary of this club?

[313] Could you read the minutes back, please?

[314] That's what I meant.

[315] You're not paying attention.

[316] This is something that we could have figured out while we were at Sephora.

[317] Why would we do that?

[318] No. Any other time that we've been here for the past 24?

[319] How charming was that, though?

[320] When we just like, didn't know?

[321] It's like, we don't even think about it.

[322] The torso killer.

[323] Move the alpaca.

[324] I don't give a fuck what you can see.

[325] Shut your mouth.

[326] Really?

[327] Get to talk.

[328] No talking.

[329] And now when I meet you afterwards, I'm going to get in your fucking face.

[330] There's no. Patsy fell over.

[331] Patsy died.

[332] When Karen is angry, Patsy falls over when you can't need you to stop fucking talking.

[333] Ask Patsy if she wants a cookie.

[334] It's going to be so disappointing and I'm going to get sick.

[335] No, no, she'll say something.

[336] Just ask her, yeah.

[337] Patsy, you want a cookie?

[338] Yes.

[339] Now I miss my cat.

[340] She's a lot more eloquent than your cat.

[341] I'm sorry.

[342] It's my cheat day.

[343] I'm not doing carbs right now, but I'll make an exception for you, girls.

[344] Thanks, Patsy's really high class.

[345] She's a little emo, but we're working through it.

[346] Wait, she's a little emu, but she's not anything.

[347] Oh, my God.

[348] I don't know if I'd be celebrating it like that.

[349] Severe douche chills.

[350] That was so good.

[351] And you fucking, you know, and you know.

[352] I'm sorry.

[353] Okay.

[354] Can I please talk about the torso killer?

[355] He's your fucking killer.

[356] And I want to tell you about him.

[357] So, um, there's a name, a man named Richard Francis Coddingham, and he did a little work in the 80s here in the New York City metropolitan area that I don't know if anybody knows about.

[358] I actually had never heard of him.

[359] And someone else, like in passing, a friend of him.

[360] of mine was like, have you ever heard of the torso killer?

[361] And I got all up in their face like, that's Cleveland, that's not going to help me. And then they were like, no, no, New York City had their own torso killer.

[362] And I was like, well, God bless America.

[363] And this took place primarily in 1980.

[364] And so I looked up on a website what was happening in 1980 that was different than 2016.

[365] And so I'll just list a couple things just to paint the picture, just to Just to set it up for you.

[366] Georgia was born.

[367] In 1980?

[368] Yeah.

[369] Oh, girl.

[370] You look good.

[371] Oh.

[372] Thank you.

[373] Thank you.

[374] That was a straight compliment.

[375] Oh, thank you.

[376] Let's see.

[377] Karen is using Patsy as a music stand.

[378] Patsy was used for years and years by John Ramp.

[379] Oh, yeah.

[380] Shit, girl.

[381] I don't know.

[382] That's right.

[383] I don't know.

[384] Anything can happen at the bell house.

[385] Could you imagine if John Ramsey walked on stage, right?

[386] That's our surprise guess is fucking John Ramsey.

[387] John Ramsey's here to tell his side of the story.

[388] Fucking flip the table.

[389] Fuck, dude.

[390] The torso killer.

[391] Go, go, go, go, go, yeah.

[392] In 1980, in New York, but also everywhere else, did you know there was no answering machines?

[393] Like, they had invented them, and corporate corporations would use them like rich people had them, but they weren't actually mass -marketed until 1984.

[394] Isn't that precious?

[395] It's so cute.

[396] So if you wanted to call somebody and they weren't home, the phone would just ring and ring and ring.

[397] All right.

[398] Also, there are pay phones everywhere, and they weren't as dirty as they are now.

[399] Here in New York, this subway was insanely scary.

[400] Oh, yeah.

[401] Um, you, they used tokens and, um, everybody had a knife.

[402] Uh, I believe Studio 54 was peaking.

[403] It was about to close, but it was like, peaking just to the point where it was like, all the people who still thought cocaine was good for you were having a great time.

[404] And then like New Year's Eve and it was like January 1st, 81 and they were just like, everybody's going to die.

[405] Yeah.

[406] Um, you could smoke anywhere.

[407] You could smoke inside of an, operating room.

[408] It was the best.

[409] There were a shit ton of mimes.

[410] Oh, no. All right, we're good.

[411] The mime was just so pissed off that he fucking that mime threw down his drink and fucking stormed out.

[412] He was just like, drink.

[413] How dare you talk about the quantity of mimes?

[414] No, there's just me. And of there was graffiti everywhere and there's litter everywhere and also there was a ton of murder.

[415] Just a shit time.

[416] Yes.

[417] Congratulations.

[418] So there was a man named Richard Francis Cottingham and he was 31 years old at this time.

[419] He was a computer operator and a valued employee of the Blue Cross Blue Shield in New York.

[420] It's not a plug.

[421] We're getting paid a shit ton of money by Blue Cross.

[422] To not talk about that.

[423] Blue Shield.

[424] He was married with three children, and he also raped, sodomized, killed, and mutilated six sex workers in New York and New Jersey.

[425] Congratulations.

[426] What a fun guy.

[427] Yeah.

[428] That was great storytelling.

[429] Just a sassy good time.

[430] So I read this article by a guy named Peter Voronski, and it seemed like he was a writer, but when he tells it, I mean, like, it's a great article, so obviously he's a talented writer, but he was talking about.

[431] At the time, he used to run film from Montreal, get it developed in New York City, and then take it back.

[432] And you can't just, like, send, they don't ever ship, like, movie, film like that.

[433] You have to have a guide do it so that nothing happens to the film.

[434] So he would come down with the film, and he would get a stipend to get a hotel room for the night and then go back.

[435] But, of course, he was, like, a young punk, so he didn't want to spend his money on a hotel room, so he would save the money and, like, eat, He would go to art openings and eat cheese and drink wine.

[436] Oh, yeah.

[437] And then get a hotel room in a really, really seedy hotel.

[438] And so this one time he did it, the film took longer than they expected.

[439] So he ended up getting kind of stuck in Hell's Kitchen.

[440] And it was...

[441] Back then?

[442] No. Yeah, right?

[443] No, thanks.

[444] There was a...

[445] It was a hotel on 10th Avenue in Hell's Kitchen.

[446] And he was standing at the elevator.

[447] one day and it was taking forever and he was getting kind of irritated when it finally opened there was just like this super bland guy who came out of the elevator holding a bag and the what why then because something's going to happen oh right okay I can tell something's going to happen got it got it um he comes out of the elevator and his bag touches peter vronsky on the leg and then but then the guy moves on he said he looked a little bit sweaty like he just been doing something, but he, other than that, he was kind of vague, and then he left.

[448] So Peter Vronsky goes up to the floor where his hotel room is going to be to check out just how horrible his stay is going to be, because he knows it's going to be bad.

[449] And when he gets up there, there are little pieces of, like, burned material in the air, and he can smell smoke.

[450] It smells like someone burnt hair or something.

[451] So, right?

[452] Yeah.

[453] Yep.

[454] So as he's walking down the hallway to get to his room, he now starts to see smoke in the hallway, and the smell is starting to get really bad, and you start to realize it's the smell of death.

[455] This is not just a normal fire.

[456] There's a dead body somewhere.

[457] And then, right then, the fire alarms go off.

[458] And what happened?

[459] I just looked at Jamie.

[460] I just feel like, oh.

[461] I just got chills.

[462] I'm just very interesting.

[463] He goes back downstairs and a room was on fire and when the firemen went in, they found two bodies, one on each of the single beds.

[464] And when one of the firemen picked the body up and pulled it out into the hallway to do CPR on it, no head, no hand.

[465] I think was going to happen.

[466] Wait, sorry, did you say no head, no hands?

[467] Is that what you said?

[468] Yes, no head, no hand.

[469] No fucking dental records, no fucking fingerprints.

[470] That's right.

[471] So he, a couple years later, when Richard Condiham gets caught and his picture is on the news, Peter Vronsky sees his picture and goes, that's the guy that passed me when he came out of the elevator.

[472] With a bag?

[473] With a bag with heads in it.

[474] And hands.

[475] Merry Christmas.

[476] Was it a nice bag?

[477] Was it to me?

[478] What's the large brown bag?

[479] What's the large brown bag?

[480] brown bag from Bloomingdale's oh yeah big brown bag big brown bag um so was it the sports sack was a goodwill guys I'm about to talk about the dead body okay sorry the those missing parts were never found but their clothes there was two sex workers whose clothes were found neatly folded and put into the bathtub along with their fancy boots and there was very little blood on the beds and there was very little blood in the room so they don't understand they don't understand the method at that point of what happened where it happened because it didn't seem possible that he could have gotten all of that taken care of in the room also how did he kill one person and then the other person doesn't make enough noise that somebody knows what's going on again they're in Hell's Kitchen So, through X -rays, they identify Dita Gadsari, who is a 23 -year -old sex worker from New Jersey, who is the mother of a four -month -old baby.

[481] Oh, no. And the other victim was in her late teens, and she has never been identified to this day.

[482] Oh, honey.

[483] Oh, my God.

[484] So, so.

[485] What fuck was that look?

[486] So six months later, six months later at the Seville Hotel.

[487] On 29th Street near Madison, he kills a 25 -year -old named Gene Rayner.

[488] And it was the same exact thing where they go in, they find the dead body, and this time, it's going to be bad.

[489] He cut off her breasts and put them on the headboard before he lit the room on fire.

[490] Now, I want to know, how bad is this hotel if it has a headboard?

[491] It can't be...

[492] It's got a booed board.

[493] It must be...

[494] Sorry, not sorry.

[495] I just...

[496] Whatever, I'm not going to say.

[497] I mean...

[498] So, now we're going to cut to the Hasbroke Heights Quality Inn.

[499] You guys have been there.

[500] The irony of quality in.

[501] Any time the word quality is in the title, it's stark opposite.

[502] It's like good enough in.

[503] Yeah.

[504] It's called bedbugs.

[505] Yeah.

[506] So the maid is vacuuming, as they are want to do.

[507] And when she goes to vacuum under the bed, it hits something.

[508] No. And when she lifts up the mattress, it is the disfigured corpse of 19 -year -old Valerie Street.

[509] Oh.

[510] Who's also a sex worker?

[511] So essentially, our boy, Richard Coddington, what he would do is pick up, prostitute, sex workers, and he would, oftentimes he would give him a date, rape drug, and they would wake up in the hotel with the tape on their mouth, and he, and handcuffed with their hands behind their back, and then basically he would torture them for hours at a time, and they were at these horrible hotels where people would be screaming and no one was doing anything.

[512] That's the craziest thing.

[513] That is, well, I mean, he, until he put the tape over their mouths, but he must have, like, the planning of it must have been that they drugged them long enough and then covered it.

[514] But you mind your business in those fucking hotels, right?

[515] That's exactly right.

[516] You don't want to point fingers when the three are pointing back at you.

[517] Do you remember the movie big when Tom Hanks becomes big and he goes and stays in the hotel for the first time and it's like a sad?

[518] He gets like super scared and sad.

[519] It was like Times Square.

[520] Always think it's totally Times Square.

[521] You're 12 and crying.

[522] And you're 12.

[523] But you're also a man. But you're a man boy.

[524] Okay.

[525] So his next victim was a, not a sex worker, sorry, it keeps saying prostitute in this article.

[526] It was a 26 -year -old radiologist named Marianne Carr, and they think that he knew her in real life in his weird other life in New Jersey.

[527] And she had basically died the same way, and she was found, like up against a chain link fence.

[528] So it was all kind of the same thing, but it turned out she was, she was just a nurse and a regular person in her town.

[529] Like how would he have found her and known her if he didn't already know her?

[530] Right.

[531] Right?

[532] Shut up.

[533] He wouldn't have, is what I'm saying.

[534] So then basically the way he gets caught, sorry, I should have left Sephora earlier and organized this part better.

[535] You can't find the thing.

[536] Oh, it's on this.

[537] The way he gets caught is, um...

[538] Wait for it?

[539] He takes...

[540] What?

[541] He said wait for it?

[542] He takes a girl back to the same quality in in Hasburg Heights where the body was found under the bed.

[543] And, um...

[544] But this time, he...

[545] There were reports of a woman screaming.

[546] Finally, someone was paying attention.

[547] Get it together.

[548] And, uh, they...

[549] When the cops come in, And there's a man trying to calmly walk out as if he doesn't, yeah, look, I'm just here at the Quality Inn, chilling.

[550] Just on vacay, the Quality Inn.

[551] I'd just like to come over here and just get my thoughts together at the QI.

[552] They have free Wi -Fi?

[553] Wi -Fi's not a thing yet.

[554] What are you talking about?

[555] It's not a thing.

[556] So basically the cops get him, and then when they go into the room, they find a girl handcuffed, hysterical, and she's been tortured for a long time.

[557] but there's finally a survivor that can tell everybody, this fucking motherfucker that you think is some normal guy that works at Blue Shield Blue Cross is actually this insane serial killer.

[558] So when they search Cottingham's home, they find a trophy room containing personal effects from several of the murdered sex workers.

[559] And he had actually been arrested twice in the early 70s that nobody knew, that that would never come up and so yeah he had personal things that connected him there was no way it couldn't have been him I feel like trophy rooms like if they're for serial killers or for fucking children they're like they suck either way yeah that's very true even if it's a legit trophy room like best bowler or whatever the fuck yeah it's like fucking stupid well I they're very connected like I think they they bring out the same thing in people like you're look look in my thing it's over yeah you did it already Yeah.

[560] Yeah.

[561] Okay to the chase.

[562] In May of 1981, he was convicted on 15 felony counts related to the murder of Valerie Street.

[563] And he drew a sentence of 173 to 197 years in prison.

[564] And then a year later, he was convicted on second degree murder charges for Marianne Carr, and that added another 20 years to his life.

[565] And that is how sentencing is fucking done.

[566] Sorry, just reading the last paragraph.

[567] Yep, it sure is.

[568] Oh.

[569] It totally, oh, there was just this list of, this is what he was indicted on.

[570] This is what the person read in court.

[571] Kidnapping.

[572] Attempted murder.

[573] Aggravated assault.

[574] Aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.

[575] Aggravated sexual assault while armed.

[576] Aggravated sexual assault while armed.

[577] Oh, the first one was raped, the second was sodomy, agorated a sexual assault while armed, that was fallatio, possession of a weapon, possession of controlled dangerous substances, sechobarbital, and ammo barbitol, or two and all, and possession of controlled dangerous substance, diazepam, or valium.

[578] In other words, he was the total package.

[579] Wow.

[580] That's Richard Cottington, Cottingham, the torso killer.

[581] Yay!

[582] Jamie, do you want to go?

[583] I would feel weird going last.

[584] Do you want to go last?

[585] Sure.

[586] Okay.

[587] Is that okay?

[588] Because I don't want to like, I don't want to like wrap it up.

[589] Like, because, and then Georgia goes.

[590] So let's have Jamie go last.

[591] Okay.

[592] Is that cool?

[593] Do it, yeah.

[594] Really cool?

[595] Totally.

[596] Okay.

[597] All right.

[598] And so, okay, I really, I really, this murder's really fucked up, but I got really scared that someone in here knows the victim.

[599] Oh.

[600] So I apologize.

[601] I just apologize constantly.

[602] That's basically what I do.

[603] Okay.

[604] So, Emmett St. Gann.

[605] Anyone?

[606] Anyone?

[607] No, okay, good.

[608] Like they're going to say.

[609] I mean, yeah.

[610] Oh, yeah, that's my aunt.

[611] Okay, so Emmett was born in Boston, and in 2003, she enrolled in the John J. Criminal, College of Criminal Justice, which is a SUNY College in Manhattan.

[612] They couldn't come up with anything more than John Jay Criminal Justice College.

[613] I don't know who he is.

[614] John J. Criminal Justice College.

[615] His name is my nobody's name.

[616] Let's name a college.

[617] So she was going to pursue, basically she's one of us.

[618] She was going to pursue a master's degree in criminal justice.

[619] So, like, immediately we won't have a drink with her and fucking hang out with her, right?

[620] She was one of the top 5 % of her class, and she was supposed to graduate in May 2006.

[621] And so in February 2006, she goes to celebrate her birthday.

[622] with her friend Claire, they go out, they're at a nightclub.

[623] It's always a friend, Claire.

[624] Claire, oh God.

[625] I'm not saying her last name on purpose because I feel fucking bad for this girl.

[626] I really do.

[627] She tried.

[628] She's fucking tried.

[629] So 3 .30, which by the way, this fucking 4 a .m. shit, like you can stay out till 4 a .m. And you know, fuck, no. What the fuck?

[630] That is a terrible idea.

[631] It is kind of around the witching hour.

[632] You've got to be careful.

[633] Like, stay as far away from dawn.

[634] as possible.

[635] You know what I mean?

[636] Part until 11 .45 and go home.

[637] Great.

[638] Great.

[639] But, you know, she's a baby.

[640] So they go to a nightclub to celebrate her birthday, and then Claire's like, let's get the fuck out of here.

[641] I called a cab.

[642] And then Emmett's like, I'm staying out.

[643] And they're like, I'm going to burp.

[644] Hold on.

[645] Then Emmett, thank you.

[646] No. Put it out, Georgia.

[647] Do you?

[648] It's terrible.

[649] I don't want this to be me. It also sounded like a kind of like a car if somebody wrote out a cartoon burp where it's like a bell, yeah like Tim the tool man Taylor it's me so like fucking Claire is like get in the fucking cab and it's like no bitch I'm staying out and like we've all done it we've all done it you always listen to Claire and at 350 Claire calls her and is like are you okay and and that's like I am going to this bar called the Falls at 4 a .m. You know this?

[650] I heard.

[651] That was a good stage whisper.

[652] So the next evening, they're like, where the fuck is Emmett?

[653] Like, she's fucking missing a shit.

[654] And so someone, an anonymous caller, calls the Brooklyn police and is like, I saw a fucking dead woman's body.

[655] Yeah.

[656] Does anyone know where Fountain Street and Spring Creek Park is?

[657] Nope.

[658] No, that was a vague whoop.

[659] And it turns out that it's fucking met St. Guian.

[660] Okay, you guys, this sucks.

[661] She's nude and wrapped in a comforter.

[662] Her fucking fingernails are broken, showing that she fought as fuck, which, like, get a girl.

[663] No. Hands and feet tied.

[664] Sock in her fucking mouth.

[665] Like, hair had been cut off.

[666] Yeah.

[667] Yes.

[668] Beaten, sexually assaulted.

[669] That was Vidal so soon.

[670] How dare!

[671] She's like, what kind of cut?

[672] The Rachel?

[673] The whole list, she's upset about the hair.

[674] Can I go on about how she was fucking murdered?

[675] I know, I know.

[676] This is the whole problem.

[677] And she died of exfixiation, and I don't even want to tell you about the fact that she had, it was because she had packing tape wrapped her on her poor sweet face.

[678] According to the forensic psychologist, the forensic psychologist said that the killer tried to dehumanize her completely.

[679] When you hide someone's face, it means that you don't want to see them as a human being.

[680] You want to pretend there's just an object.

[681] And hair cutting, too, I think, is part of that, right?

[682] Where it's like, it's something aggressively male to cut a woman's hair, which sounds so stupid, but like, I think when you're a fucking murderer, it's true.

[683] Yes, no?

[684] Yeah.

[685] Thoughts, feelings?

[686] Well, it's also a weird thing, because it's like, he's like, I want to murder humans.

[687] Yeah.

[688] I don't want to murder a human.

[689] It's like, what?

[690] Make you're mine.

[691] Yeah.

[692] Yeah.

[693] I want to murder humans, but I also like to cut hair.

[694] Okay, so the last time that Emmett had been seen, she was with one of the bouncers at this bar called the Falls, and this bartender had been asked to escort her out of this bar before closing, and then another bar, another bouncer saw her talking to her in front of the bar.

[695] So the dude, the fucking, the bouncer was an ex -con, had spent more than 12 years in prison for drug possession and robbery, and he was on parole, which means he shouldn't have gotten a fucking job being, but they didn't do any background checks on him.

[696] He wasn't a licensed security guard.

[697] Staying out past curfew was a parole violation.

[698] Like, he shouldn't have fucking been hired.

[699] Okay, but the dude who owned the fucking bar, his name was Dorian, he didn't want, he said that he had never, he didn't see her, he didn't know who she was.

[700] And later that he knew who she was and he said he didn't want to get involved because years earlier his father's bar had suffered poor publicity in lawsuits after a patron was murdered a different bar guess what fucking bar is guess what fucking murder is the one uptown the upper east side one Dorian murders the fucking preppy murder yeah the chances sorry wait guy that owns the falls Dorian's Red hand Red hand Right?

[701] Dorian's right hand Right?

[702] Which we've covered They're just yelling all kinds of stuff If you've listened to this for a little bit I've been to that bar Have you really?

[703] I have I was very sad there I don't hurt on me Anyways it's my own struggle Let's go back to the girl who died You should be glad about not getting hit on At that fucking bar Okay so the owner is the fucking same dude Yeah crazy right So the fucking the bouncer whose name now okay I'm going to say his name is Darrell Littlejohn his basement apartment is searched in Queens and carpet fibers are found that match her on the adhesive tape blood and skin matching Little John's DNA are found on the plastic ties and also from a snowbrush found next to the body.

[704] So like I don't know how he bled.

[705] I heard something about like a nosebleed, but I'm like why would you get a fucking nosebleed?

[706] Like, I don't understand how that happens.

[707] Yeah, you're like a murderer, but you're also like kind of a geek.

[708] You're like, no. Or co -kech.

[709] She scratched the shit out of your face.

[710] Oh, co -chid actually makes sense.

[711] Oh, yeah.

[712] It does make way more sense.

[713] If you're a bouncer, I'm so sorry bouncers, but, and especially like in 2006, you're fucking co -gid.

[714] Careful, careful.

[715] Hey!

[716] Okay, so whoa, whoa, da -da -da, a bunch of old shits found on the DNA.

[717] fucking matches as fuck, and then additional evidence, and they're like ping the fucking towers, which is like the new DNA, I feel like.

[718] You know what I'm saying?

[719] And then traces of GHB were found in her system, which is not a punk band.

[720] It's a date rape drug.

[721] So the fucking bar owner says, like, I don't know, I didn't see her.

[722] And then he later says he didn't want to get involved.

[723] but a bunch of people were like he has ties his family has ties to Rudy Giuliani so a lot of people are like this is actually the killer but he's got it covered up and the other dude was being framed to protect Rudy Giuliani's family who was like running for shit at the time okay so don't say what it makes me feel like I'm fucking up don't say what okay we can hear every word I know we're really good okay all right they had gone poor publicity after the feckin' Dorian's red hand.

[724] And then...

[725] Okay, so he...

[726] Okay, so finally Dorian admits what he saw that night.

[727] And ready for a fucking piece of shit?

[728] Okay.

[729] He says there was a young lady sitting at the bar who didn't want to leave.

[730] I told her it was time to leave, and she said, I'll leave when I'm finished with my drink, says feckin and that, which is like, yes, girl.

[731] And then he says, either finish it or I'm going to pour it out.

[732] she finishes it.

[733] Then, he says she was just getting up to leave and I told Little John, Darrell Little John, to escort her out.

[734] Which is like, call a fucking cab.

[735] You've never done any fucking background check on this dude.

[736] Like you don't know who this person is and you're sending her out in the fucking world as a drunk person.

[737] Well, it's the bouncer, though.

[738] To them, they're just like send him out with a bouncer.

[739] Yeah.

[740] I mean, I would trust a bouncer.

[741] I would ask a bouncer to walk me to my car.

[742] Yes.

[743] That's what sucks about it.

[744] They're not drinking.

[745] They're fucking.

[746] big and nice.

[747] They've got broad shoulders.

[748] They're very cool.

[749] Trustworthy shoulders.

[750] They're fucking low key individuals that sit on stools.

[751] They don't want to be there.

[752] They have a little of lash light.

[753] They're like, a bunch of drunk dickheads that they have to fucking do it.

[754] Yes, I get it.

[755] So the other bouncer named Tim said that Emmett was slurring her words and that she had been slumped over at the bar.

[756] But then he was just like, bye, and like walked in the other direction.

[757] Like he just left them.

[758] And then, then Dorian said that he saw them, he saw a Met and Little John fighting outside.

[759] Okay, so he gets arrested, he gets fucking charged with all this shit.

[760] And then his defense attorney says that Dorian, the fucking bar owner, might have been the real killer.

[761] And that maybe Little John was fucking bringing women back to the club to like, as a thing.

[762] But, like, clearly not.

[763] Oh, so they, like, float a conspiracy?

[764] Yeah.

[765] Yeah.

[766] Because that doesn't seem unlikely with the other things I've heard about Dorian's red hand.

[767] Yeah, but he also said he told police that he'd been banged up after a quarrel with his girlfriend a couple days after her body was found.

[768] It's like, why are you beat up?

[769] Right?

[770] That's the first thing you look for.

[771] Yeah.

[772] Okay, so they never investigated him.

[773] Okay, so the bar closes his liquor license and Little John is sentenced to 25 years to life in prison.

[774] Okay, so the judge says not one of these people spared a thought to the wisdom of sending an intoxicated young woman out into the deserted streets of Manhattan at 4 a .m. If only one of them had the common decency to call a cab taxi, we might not have, when you might not be there here in this courtroom, which is like so fucking true, right?

[775] Like, you're responsible.

[776] It is true.

[777] It's super true.

[778] It's very, very true.

[779] True, true.

[780] If you're going to own a bar and not take responsibility for a fucking alone woman slumped at a bar and just send her out.

[781] Well, and the other thing is that it's that thing of like being overserved or did you drink too much?

[782] Like if you go to a bar, you have to be careful.

[783] And I think, I mean, it's just that thing of like you can't just trust the bouncer.

[784] You can't just trust that other people will take care of you.

[785] It would be not.

[786] nice, but it might not happen.

[787] And whether or not the bouncer just walks her out and lets her leave, like, he might not be a murderer, but he also, the bar owner, the bartender should be aware that she's being at least somewhat taken care of.

[788] And, yeah, she could be fucking drugged, and we don't know that.

[789] Like, it's so easy these days.

[790] Watch your drinks, you guys.

[791] You know, also the funny thing is, like, and these days then you're super drunk and they watch you get into an Uber, which is a car that a stranger is driving.

[792] Like, who knows who that fucking guy is?

[793] It's just organized hitchhiking.

[794] It's true.

[795] Where is this female -only Uber we've been promised?

[796] I keep hearing about it, and I fucking want it.

[797] Did you make that up?

[798] No, it's a thing.

[799] There's like a new, it's supposed to be like women driving women.

[800] Or like if you're a woman and you're with a dude, it's okay, but you have to be a woman.

[801] And it's women drivers, good night.

[802] Huh.

[803] Okay.

[804] I'm not, I need to get on that email chain.

[805] Well, you don't need to be because it's not, I've heard about it for two years and it's not happening.

[806] Oh, okay.

[807] But it should be.

[808] All right.

[809] So let that dream.

[810] Go?

[811] Let it go.

[812] Let it go.

[813] You're going to get.

[814] We're going to get.

[815] Okay.

[816] So then while he's being fucking arrested and tried, another woman comes forward because she sees his fucking face on TV and is like, that's the dude who fucking dress like a police officer, handcuff me and fucking sexually assaulted me. They linked the DNA.

[817] It was him.

[818] He was a fucking repeat sex assaulty.

[819] A serial rapist?

[820] Yep, there you go.

[821] Thank you.

[822] And then...

[823] It's like Joe Pesci and Home Alone, but, like, so much worse.

[824] Yeah, like, not charming.

[825] Sorry, I just watched that movie.

[826] It's very fresh on my brain.

[827] I'm just trying to tie it back to Christmas.

[828] You know what I mean?

[829] It's a holiday classic.

[830] Sorry, this is very serious.

[831] Another fucking woman's like, that dude fucking did that to me. And then...

[832] And she said that...

[833] This other woman said that he wrapped her face up almost exactly like he did to this poor fucking baby girl I meant.

[834] Okay, so the good news is that in 2007 New York enacted a law requiring security cameras at the entrances and exits of all the 200 nightclubs that held a cabaret license, which is so charming.

[835] Just like jazz hands.

[836] If you're doing jazz hands, you've got to get that camera.

[837] Using a stool as a prop.

[838] It almost makes you think like that they have clean bathrooms and you fucking know they don't you know like you can't call it a cabaret and it's like graffiti bathrooms with no fucking thing my parents my parents owned a rock club and they had something in Dallas Texas where I grew up and they had a thing called a dance hall license and I always thought it was so funny to call it a dance hall because it's like you a fucking guar you know like literally like spraying like fake semen and blood on the audience and it's like, we've got a dance hall.

[839] It's like, CBGD.

[840] It's a C -B -G -D -Han -Han -Houd.

[841] Sorry to say Seaman Hang -Out.

[842] No, we have to say it once every episode, or they just, it doesn't happen.

[843] So they have to have fucking videos, and the club owners agreed to a voluntary guidelines, so they scan all of the identifications, like they know who comes in and out, and they have to screen them for fucking weapons, which has never happened.

[844] me in my life when I've gone into it.

[845] Has that happening to you?

[846] I mean, we're going to get patted down all the time.

[847] Yeah.

[848] I really do.

[849] And they also have to provide more care in dealing with intoxicated female patrons who are alone, which is great.

[850] And then Boston did the same thing.

[851] And then also John Jay College of Criminal Justice.

[852] They started an emet Saint -Gion scholarship for second -year students at the college.

[853] And, yeah.

[854] And then they've also created a spirit of a Met Foundation intended to support education for underprivileged children.

[855] And then that motherfucker, Darrell Little John is in jail forever.

[856] Thank you.

[857] Prison forever.

[858] Thank you.

[859] That was a good ending.

[860] Thank you.

[861] That was a real upending.

[862] That's the shitty little John.

[863] Not the fun one that says, yeah.

[864] Little John.

[865] Isn't that what he does?

[866] Am I get it?

[867] Is that right?

[868] Yeah.

[869] It's not that one.

[870] It's not that one.

[871] okay guys all right man here we go I know thank you guys I really appreciate the support it's a lot of presh you know it's a lot of press you know it's a lot of press yeah I got these two experts um yeah I was sad and sarcastic it was 100 % not I you both told me that I should do you're like oh we're doing a show in New York so maybe do a New York murder and I didn't I just straight up was like no I do it I want I do what I want I'm Jamie Lee Because it's loose.

[872] I thought about the title of the podcast is my favorite murder.

[873] And I was like, oh, I'm going to be on it.

[874] So I want to do what is legitimately right now my very favorite murder.

[875] So without further ado, this is the murder of D .D. Blanchard.

[876] Yeah.

[877] Hey.

[878] So good.

[879] Oh, man. It gets so good.

[880] Okay.

[881] So on June 14th, 2015 in Springfield, Missouri, 48 -year -old D .D. was found dead in her home covered in stab wounds.

[882] Why, how?

[883] Who would do such a thing?

[884] I will let you know very shortly.

[885] Okay, so here's the deal.

[886] Dede Blanchard.

[887] She was described as a, quote, unquote, large, affable -looking person, which she reinforced by dressing in bright, cheerful colors.

[888] She had, this is a real fun detail.

[889] Do you ever think, sorry, but do you ever think about, I think about, I think my.

[890] greatest fear is to find out how people describe me. I never, ever want to know.

[891] I don't care.

[892] But God forbid.

[893] God for fucking bid.

[894] Large, affable, bright, cheery colors.

[895] I mean, I never leave the house again.

[896] If I heard that about myself, I'd be like, oh, please just murder me because I don't want to know that detail.

[897] Someone once told me in Junior High, like, what, who's, like, they said I had mousy brown hair.

[898] And it changed my fucking hair.

[899] Right.

[900] Yeah.

[901] Hence the fucking boss.

[902] You can't have mousy hair You can't have mousy I don't understand that descriptor What does that even mean?

[903] Well, the bitch who told me That someone said that Clearly was a fucking count Is what that means That's what it means That's what it means Here's another horrifying detail She had curly brown hair She liked to hold back with ribbons Oh Like cheer squad Yeah like she's at the Renfair But every day woven throughout her braid crown.

[904] Eating a turkey leg.

[905] Okay.

[906] could, so D .D. could make friends quickly and inspire deep devotion in people.

[907] She did not have a job, but instead served as a full -time caretaker for her daughter, Gypsy Rose, who was her disabled teenage daughter.

[908] So she didn't have a job.

[909] She was just a caretaker for Gypsy Rose.

[910] I'm busy.

[911] That's what she said.

[912] I would just like to say that when I was little, my grandmother, who apparently was a flapper, used to, if we, I was kind of a nudist when I was young, so I'd, like, get out of the bathtub and I would just run around the house.

[913] I thought it was really funny, and everyone would yell and chase me, and it was a good way to get attention.

[914] And my grandmother, any time I did something like that, my grandmother would go, look at you, it's Gypsy Rose Lee, because she was a famous stripper.

[915] Yes, the musical Tisie was about.

[916] She was a 1920s vaudeville star turned stripper, and she was also the inspiration for the broad.

[917] Broadway show, Gypsy.

[918] Fun fact.

[919] Didi didn't even know.

[920] She just liked the name Gypsy Rose.

[921] No. She didn't even know that she's like, oh, my stripper daughter, no. She didn't even know.

[922] She didn't even know.

[923] She just was like, those words go together well.

[924] So that's like naming your daughter like Tani on the pole.

[925] I mean, like, that's a stripper name.

[926] I just think on the pole is a really beautiful.

[927] That is a gorgeous name.

[928] On the pole.

[929] On the pole.

[930] Okay, so that's D .D. Blanchard, our murder victim.

[931] Her daughter, Gypsy Rose, let me tell you a little bit about her.

[932] She was small, frail, and pale for a 19 -year -old.

[933] She wore big glasses, was confined to a wheelchair, had a feeding tube, no hair, was missing several teeth, and spoke with a childlike voice.

[934] Okay, I know.

[935] Hold on.

[936] So if you asked D .D. What was wrong with her daughter?

[937] She would list off lots of ailments.

[938] Chromosomal.

[939] Chromosomal.

[940] That is a word.

[941] Chromosomal defects.

[942] I have those.

[943] I don't know what that means, but okay.

[944] Chromosomal defects, muscular dystrophy, epilepsy, eye problems, and also gypsy had leukemia as a toddler.

[945] Okay.

[946] So, D .D. Dee Dee said that Gypsy had, quote, unquote, the mind of a seven -year -old, and that's why she was homeschooled for her whole life, because she would not thrive in a normal public school setting.

[947] I mean, that's all of us, am I wrong?

[948] Yeah.

[949] I know, I'm like, who's well -adjusted?

[950] Who thrives at public school?

[951] Yeah.

[952] No one.

[953] So they were in Springfield, Missouri, and like everyone else around them in the neighborhood, Dedy and Gypsy's house had been built by Habitat for Humanity.

[954] it had amenities for gypsy such as a ramp up to the door a jacuzzi tub to help with gypsy's muscles and this is a weird detail since gypsy was too sick to ever go out D -D would project movies on the side of the house for other people in the neighborhood to come and see and then she would charge a small fee because she was like it's cheaper than a multiplex and then those that the proceeds would go to gypsy's treatments.

[955] She charged a small fee for the movie, but the popcorn was still $14.

[956] She's like, it's still $5 .000 DeSani.

[957] I hope that's okay.

[958] It's very worth it.

[959] It's very delicious water.

[960] Can I pay for that jacuzzi?

[961] Because that sounds fucking nice.

[962] I know.

[963] okay, so D .D. had told one of the neighbors a woman named Amy, I'm sorry, guys, I'm like, can't speak.

[964] Okay.

[965] A woman named Amy Pinniger that she and Gypsy moved from Louisiana to Springfield, Missouri, because back in Louisiana, Gypsy's grandfather would put cigarettes out on her and that Gypsy's dad was no longer in the picture because he was an alcoholic disaster.

[966] So all of the neighbors felt terrible for them, totally sympathized, empathized, love them, and thought they were like the sweetest people they had ever met and wanted to do anything they could to help the family, which is why...

[967] Red flag.

[968] On June 14th, 2015, it was such a shock when a post went up under D .D. and Gypsy shared Facebook account.

[969] Oh, what?

[970] I mean, what do we do?

[971] What do?

[972] We're sharing Facebook?

[973] Fuck.

[974] No. Disgusting.

[975] Get your own.

[976] Red flags.

[977] Get your goddamn home.

[978] Problems.

[979] Serious ones.

[980] Okay, so a post went up on the Facebook that was very alarming.

[981] It said, The bitch is dead.

[982] caps, okay?

[983] Okay, so then friends...

[984] Which bitch!

[985] Okay, friends began to comment, obviously.

[986] They were like, we've never heard you talk like that, gypsy.

[987] I guess they just assumed it's gypsy.

[988] They're like, we've never heard you talk like that.

[989] Oh my God, you must have been hacked.

[990] Maybe we should call the police.

[991] As comments flooded the page, another post went up.

[992] Okay, it said, and I quote, I fucking slash that fat pig and raped her sweet innocent daughter.

[993] Her screen was so fucking loud L -O -L -L.

[994] By the way fucking was spelled F -U -C -K -E -N which honestly stresses me out more than the content.

[995] It's not okay.

[996] Unless you're mad at someone...

[997] Yeah, named Ken. It's not chicken.

[998] Then it makes sense.

[999] Fucking.

[1000] It's not fucking.

[1001] Just fried fucking.

[1002] Anyways, okay, so a few hours later, the police got a search warrant and they went in the house and they found D -D -Blandshard, face down on her bed, covered in stab wounds, and concluded that she had been dead for several days.

[1003] And Gypsy was missing, okay?

[1004] And all of the neighbors thought Gypsy was likely dead, too, because without the care of her mother, how could she even function?

[1005] Like, she's so dependent on her mother's care.

[1006] There's no way that she could survive on her own.

[1007] Okay.

[1008] But then, remember our friend Amy Penninger, the neighbor, well, her daughter, Alia, had some info.

[1009] She was like a big sister to Gypsy.

[1010] But unfortunately, they were rarely alone together, as Gypsy's mother was always by her side and very overprotective.

[1011] So, when Gypsy wanted to have real talk and confide in Aaliyah, it was through a secret Facebook account under the name Emma Rose.

[1012] And Aaliyah told the cops that Gypsy had met a guy named Nicholas Gotajon on a Christian singles site.

[1013] Quality men.

[1014] I'm kidding.

[1015] Probably are.

[1016] There's so many things I want to talk about.

[1017] Oh, I know.

[1018] This case is so loaded.

[1019] This is insanely problematic episode.

[1020] Just every direction is problematic.

[1021] Okay, so she met Nicholas Goda John on a crystal, I'm sorry, guys.

[1022] On her crystal net -site.

[1023] I had like half a Red Bull vodka, and I'm like, woo!

[1024] Okay.

[1025] On a Christian single site, she'd been communicating with him for two years and was totally in love with him.

[1026] Okay, but here's the thing.

[1027] Let's hear it.

[1028] I'm just saying, and maybe this is sour grapes, but it's like, so she's bald doesn't have teeth and lives with her mother and shares her mother's Facebook can but she can get a boyfriend.

[1029] I'm just saying, sorry, I'm sorry.

[1030] Sour grapes.

[1031] But I'm also like, two years, like, do you fucking two weeks, dude?

[1032] I know.

[1033] Like, let's fucking meet up.

[1034] All right, go ahead, sorry.

[1035] No, I had it even worse thought, which I'm going to say.

[1036] Which is she's missing teeth, which is probably great for blowjohns.

[1037] Anyway, Jamie Leah at gmail .com, go ahead and say.

[1038] I don't know, that's true.

[1039] So smooth.

[1040] Ah, I can't stop.

[1041] Okay, let's keep going.

[1042] Okay, so, okay, so the police put a trace on those Facebook posts, and the IP address linked to Nicholas go to John's house in Wisconsin.

[1043] The police went there, and it was a quick surrender.

[1044] Nicholas came out of the house, and Gypsy walked out after him.

[1045] Not wheeled out.

[1046] What's so many?

[1047] It's a Christian dating satin.

[1048] Fish.

[1049] But those fish don't have feed, because evolution ain't real.

[1050] It's not real.

[1051] Okay.

[1052] All right.

[1053] So it turned out, guys, that in fact, Gypsy hadn't used a wheelchair from the moment she left her house a few days earlier.

[1054] She didn't need a fucking wheelchair.

[1055] She could walk just fine.

[1056] There was nothing wrong with her muscles, and she had no medication or oxygen tank.

[1057] She's fine.

[1058] Her head had simply been shaved all of her life to make her appear ill. It was all a fraud, she told the police.

[1059] All of it.

[1060] Every last bit, her mother had made her do it.

[1061] Dedei Blanchard had Munchausen by proxy.

[1062] Oh, yeah.

[1063] Classic, classic Disney.

[1064] Just how Munchausen.

[1065] They're not the best.

[1066] I wrote here, Munchausen by proxy is the cheaper clothing line by designer proxy.

[1067] Proxy is at Barney's.

[1068] Munchausen is at Coles.

[1069] He's cracking up at her own hilarious junk.

[1070] This is why she was like, can we have Jamie Leanne?

[1071] I was like, fuck you out.

[1072] We got Jamie Lee as a guest.

[1073] Do you put on this shirt and you're like, I don't know, I feel kind of sad.

[1074] And the shirt is poisoning you slowly.

[1075] I feel like I want to hurt my baby when I wear this.

[1076] This shirt is making me feel crazy.

[1077] Munch hasn't been proxies.

[1078] Just a quick sentence.

[1079] MBP is a mental health problem in which a caregiver makes up or causes illness in a person under his or her care.

[1080] and it is a form of child abuse God, I'm so sorry, child abuse or elder abuse.

[1081] Okay, so the couple posted to Facebook because Gypsy felt guilty and she wanted the police to find her mother's body sooner.

[1082] Jipsy was in the closet while Nicholas was stabbing her and Gypsy also reportedly tried to clean up some of the blood with baby wipes after the killing.

[1083] The cleanuping, the cleanuping of the blood is what I was going to say.

[1084] Yes.

[1085] It's such a weird like you're going to kill someone, why would you...

[1086] Cleaning it up is such a personal thing, right?

[1087] Yeah.

[1088] Like that means you're caretaking.

[1089] Yes, and also with baby wipes.

[1090] That's just...

[1091] Oh, yeah.

[1092] So inefficient.

[1093] And also, it's stupid.

[1094] I mean, it's just stupid.

[1095] It's stupid.

[1096] It's stupid.

[1097] I mean, come on.

[1098] We all know Bronny is the quicker period.

[1099] That was a plug.

[1100] She'll be at the stress factory in October.

[1101] I don't know why that makes you that.

[1102] Okay.

[1103] Right.

[1104] So, Okay, so sentencing.

[1105] Nick Go to John is still awaiting a trial, but Gypsy pled guilty to second -degree murder as Nick is the one who did the stabbing.

[1106] Did he admit to that?

[1107] Did we know if he's like, yeah, he did.

[1108] No, he did.

[1109] He admitted to it, yeah.

[1110] And she is eligible for parole in seven years.

[1111] And here she?

[1112] Rolls out, then stands up.

[1113] Oh, my God.

[1114] Her favorite munch house.

[1115] Oh, my God.

[1116] She's like Jean Wilder.

[1117] and Willie Wonka.

[1118] She just like does a flip.

[1119] She's like, I have a chocolate fountain.

[1120] So, okay, so just to clue you guys in, a gypsy had been texting with Nicholas for years.

[1121] They had been communicating through this, like, secret account.

[1122] And the crazy thing is Nick had no history of violence.

[1123] The only thing he did have on his record was he was caught masturbating in McDonald's in 2013.

[1124] We all do.

[1125] It's no big deal.

[1126] But I mean, I get it.

[1127] Those fries make me horny to.

[1128] That's never been caught.

[1129] It's the only different.

[1130] I'm sorry, you know, when the McRub comes back.

[1131] Oh, wait, go ahead, go ahead.

[1132] It's a reason to celebrate the McRig.

[1133] I actually, I just want to say, I don't know if he was masturbating, but he was definitely watching porn in McDonald's.

[1134] Sorry, what's this?

[1135] That's very different.

[1136] It's almost worse.

[1137] Yeah.

[1138] You're just like, this is my chosen entertainment.

[1139] It's like, finish the job, Nick.

[1140] Anyways.

[1141] So how did D .D. scam everybody for so long?

[1142] It's pretty interesting.

[1143] People are stupid.

[1144] I mean, seriously.

[1145] D .D. did work for a little bit as a nurse's aide, so she had a knack for remembering medical terminology and spitting it back.

[1146] Not only does she fool doctors, though, she also fooled charities.

[1147] They got free flights from a violentier.

[1148] Volunteer.

[1149] Fuck.

[1150] What is happening to my mouth in my brain?

[1151] It's normal.

[1152] A volunteer pilot's organization.

[1153] They also stayed at a lodge for cancer patients, and I don't know what that is.

[1154] Lorano McDonald, I don't know.

[1155] It's like a lodge.

[1156] And then also got free trips to Disney World.

[1157] Here's where it gets fucking real dark, guys.

[1158] The abuse that Gypsy incurred over her life, here are some of the things.

[1159] Her mother made her do.

[1160] Her mother had her salivary glands injected with Botox, then removed them because her mother complained that she drooled too much.

[1161] She also had her eyes operated on because of quote -unquote weakness.

[1162] She had a feeding tube implanted.

[1163] And the reason that she was missing teeth was because her mother made her take seizure medication and it made her teeth fall out.

[1164] That she didn't need.

[1165] She didn't need anything.

[1166] She's perfectly healthy.

[1167] So there were two instances, well, there was probably more than two instances, but there were two that I researched of doctors being like, what's going on here?

[1168] But then nothing came to fruition, which is very sad.

[1169] In 2007, a pediatric neurologist named Dr. Flasterstein.

[1170] That's racist.

[1171] Bullshit.

[1172] Asked Gypsy to stand up, and she did with no problem.

[1173] And then he told D .D. like, oh, she should be walking.

[1174] But then he didn't report it as abuse.

[1175] But he was suspicious, and now he's apparently, like, very mad at himself for never reporting it, because he was kind of on to it.

[1176] Damn, you, flaster scene, he says every night.

[1177] He can't look himself in the flustered.

[1178] Flustered, okay, stop talking, Jamie.

[1179] Keep talking, Jamie.

[1180] Okay, in 2009, someone made an anonymous call to the Springfield police.

[1181] department to do a quote unquote wellness check on gypsy where the police said oh so the police went to the house and they spoke to ddie and they're like why are there so many different names and addresses for you and gypsy because they dd would frequently change her first name her last name i think it was like i read something where it was like sometimes she'd be like claudine and then she'd be like d and then she was dd like she was always kind of making these small tweaks to her first and last name i feel like that call was coming from inside the house uh yeah and Deity said that the reason she did that was because she was trying to avoid an abusive ex -husband.

[1182] More on that in just a minute.

[1183] Didi changed her, oh, I already said that.

[1184] Okay, cool.

[1185] So this is what else is, this is fucking crazy.

[1186] So when Gypsy went to prison, she told the police she was only 19, but she was actually 23.

[1187] So, like, she didn't even know what was real and what was being fed to her through a tube.

[1188] Sorry.

[1189] All right, we're fine.

[1190] Anyways, thank you one lone clap.

[1191] It's Dee -Dee.

[1192] There she is.

[1193] Holy shit.

[1194] Yeah, okay, so she didn't know her own age because of her mother's disgusting brainwashing.

[1195] Okay, also, Gypsy's father, his name's Rod.

[1196] Rod was not a psycho -alcoholic deadbeat.

[1197] He always sent $1 ,200 a month, child support for Gypsy and visited on occasion.

[1198] He had his own family and he still was in touch with them and trying to help them.

[1199] I didn't write this down so I just want to say for Corrections Corner there might be some corrections.

[1200] So Rod impregnated D .D. When he was only, I believe, 17 years old and she was like 24.

[1201] And so he was just like I don't love you.

[1202] I'm sorry and I'm sorry I got you pregnant.

[1203] And like it was just kind of this mistake and then they ended up breaking up and then she ended up having the baby and like he moved on and had his own family but he still was like paying for her like he wasn't not assuming responsibility I don't fully know the ins and outs of Rod and the relationship with the family but I do know that financially he was paying what he needed to pay well cool so um this is where it gets this is actually how it kind of becomes um there's a sort of a nice ending to this story yeah I mean I mean Relatively speaking, don't cream your pants, hold on.

[1204] So, Gypsy, I know, I've never said that out loud and I just did now.

[1205] It's first time for everything.

[1206] So Gypsy in prison is actually, she claims that she is feeling freer than she ever did under her mother's care.

[1207] Dude, you're not fucking in a wheelchair for fix.

[1208] Yeah, your mom's not standing behind you all the time.

[1209] Right.

[1210] So Michelle Dean is a journalist, and she wrote this, really amazing article about this story for BuzzFeed, and she went to visit Gypsy in prison and said that she speaks beautifully.

[1211] She is very eloquent.

[1212] She is not quote -unquote slow in the least.

[1213] And this was a quote from, well, I guess Gypsy told this to Michelle.

[1214] Michelle said, she wants people to know that this wasn't a situation where a girl killed her mom to be with her boyfriend.

[1215] This was a situation of a girl trying to escape abuse.

[1216] In prison, she's hoping to all sorts of programs and to help people.

[1217] She wants to write a book to help others in her situation.

[1218] It's called Orange is the New Black.

[1219] Yeah.

[1220] And then this is the last quote from Gypsy.

[1221] I think she, referring to D .D., her mom.

[1222] I think she would have been the perfect mom for someone that was actually sick.

[1223] But I'm not sick.

[1224] There's that big difference.

[1225] Oh, can I just tell you one last thing?

[1226] Please do.

[1227] So I just started looking.

[1228] I tried to find, like, YouTube clips of different neighbors and stuff being like outraged and one woman had like one of those like Nancy Grace level like thick accents where she's like oh my god you know she literally because all the neighbors were so blindsided they were like what what's happening she's not sick I thought this girl was sick and then one of the girls goes her name is not blanchard it's blanchard she added the e she just wants her movie night money back I feel yeah that's right that's a woman who paid too much for the neighborhood movie.

[1229] That's hilarious.

[1230] That was great, Jamie.

[1231] Awesome.

[1232] That shit.

[1233] Should we bring out our special...

[1234] Yeah, we have some very special guest for you right now from last podcast on the lap.

[1235] Tell us your hometown murder.

[1236] Hey, guys.

[1237] Hey, Hail Satan.

[1238] It's so nice to be here.

[1239] So my hometown murder, I'm from Woodhaven, Queens, New York City.

[1240] And I was obsessed with the Zodiac copy killer, Eddie Seda, which was in 1990, he shot a bunch of people, and then he shot a bunch of people again in 1993, and basically he got, he personally was upset with the Zodiac killer, and what happened was that he was, his sister had a bit of the downs, and he got really mad because she was hanging out with a bunch of drug dealers, and he got mad, he shot her in the ass, and she lived, and this is true, and ever since then, he got mad at people that he considered to be disrespectables, that's what he called him in his head, and then he would shoot people.

[1241] He wanted to shoot a person for every sign of the Zodiac, and then he wrote letters to the cops, and then when he got caught, it was because he licked all the stamps on his letters.

[1242] So he is currently in jail.

[1243] He got caught for the same reason George Costanza's wife died, although that was an envelope, not quite the stamp, but I think a similar image.

[1244] Similar image.

[1245] Or, you know, lick whatever the hell it is.

[1246] Very cool.

[1247] Yeah, that's a good wrap -up.

[1248] Yeah, he didn't.

[1249] He wasn't as successful as the first Zodiac killer.

[1250] absolutely not.

[1251] Oh, not at all.

[1252] Because success, in my mind, for a killer is not getting caught.

[1253] Oh, the most successful killer is probably in this room.

[1254] Oh, my, well, she just rose her, raised her hand.

[1255] It could possibly be your grandfather.

[1256] Well, Amanda, his grandfather was a part of the German army during 1945.

[1257] Finn's grandfather was a Nazi.

[1258] It's fine, though.

[1259] That is true, but he was just a very good, nationally love Germany.

[1260] All right.

[1261] A guy does what he's got to do in the early 40s.

[1262] My grandmother is just the best.

[1263] Peter, do you have a hometown?

[1264] All right.

[1265] Well, this is not quite my hometown.

[1266] I'm from Stevens Point, Wisconsin, and certainly we have a lot of trash and murders that happen there, but nobody cares.

[1267] Green Bay, Wisconsin, go pack.

[1268] They won today.

[1269] Hello.

[1270] All right.

[1271] Anyone from Wisconsin here?

[1272] No. No. Absolutely not.

[1273] And they won't admit it if they are, because they don't want to be singled out.

[1274] Thin and educated, then.

[1275] Very good to know here.

[1276] All right.

[1277] So there's this guy.

[1278] His name was Keith Kutzka.

[1279] And he murdered this dude who worked at the Green Bay Paper Mill.

[1280] And the fact that he worked at the Green Bay Paper Mill, that should be the saddest thing in your life.

[1281] That seems like a Hardy Boys book.

[1282] The Green Bay Paper Mill.

[1283] Oh, my God.

[1284] Yeah.

[1285] That's when you spit confetti out of your asshole in another person's face.

[1286] I always love to play Green Bay Party Mill.

[1287] And no one knows what's that?

[1288] I'll be like, and I'll show you.

[1289] But of course you have to eat the confetti So it takes about four hours Yes, yes A confetti casserole It's a long process So this guy was murdered His name is Tim Monfills By this guy Keith Kutzka Okay And the reason he was killed Was because Keith had some electrical problems Around his house And he worked at the same paper mill So he tried to steal a 10 to 15 foot They never clarify what the footage is It's 10 to 15 So I'm going to say it's a 12 .5 I think that's a good estimate That's fine I'm just going to happen And so he arrested So this Keith guy tried to steal it, and he walked out with the electrical rope, you know, and then this Tom guy ratted him out, and then wouldn't you believe it, they murdered him.

[1290] No way.

[1291] They did.

[1292] I cannot believe that.

[1293] And they wrapped a 45 -pound weight around his neck, which is too much for a neck to hold.

[1294] That's a lot of weight for a neck.

[1295] And they put him into the paper mill pole, okay?

[1296] That's where they put him.

[1297] So they put him in there.

[1298] It was five other guys.

[1299] You know what?

[1300] They were fat.

[1301] Was he alive when that was happening?

[1302] Well, they said he died of suffocation and drowning, so yes.

[1303] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1304] But that's just how you make paper in Wisconsin.

[1305] Absolutely.

[1306] Well, that's kind of the funny thing, Henry.

[1307] They didn't find him for two days.

[1308] And that paper mill was fully functional.

[1309] Which means there are two days of paper that were just covered in Tom Monfield's blood.

[1310] I could actually just see your grandfather.

[1311] smiling as he signs his will thinking that it's that paper.

[1312] My grandfather didn't have a will.

[1313] He wasn't allowed to have documents after a certain time there.

[1314] But you know, everyone says, oh, why go to Uruguay?

[1315] The weather, you fucking idiot.

[1316] Because the weather is amazing.

[1317] You know what?

[1318] I always say this.

[1319] You know, my grandfather, my father is a German immigrant and my father survived the Holocaust.

[1320] It helped that he was in charge.

[1321] My grandfather, but it was tough for him.

[1322] And I interviewed my grandmother And World War II was difficult on her.

[1323] They lost all their money.

[1324] Yeah, that must have been terrible for her.

[1325] That's four fucking people.

[1326] Oh, yeah.

[1327] Terrible for the wives of the soldiers.

[1328] That's it.

[1329] But anyway, kind of a funny little thing with Tom Monfields.

[1330] Everyone loved him, mostly his parents.

[1331] And they said his father worked at the paper mill for 36 years.

[1332] He had resigned or had retired a month before this.

[1333] So he could have been there for his kid, but he got lazy, I guess.

[1334] and they said Tom should have been a comedian because he was always making people laugh and instead of a bicycle as a kid he got a unicycle so he deserved it so everybody you, every douchebag you see going around fucking Williamsburg on a unicycle probably killed someone no no that's Tom the guy who was killed he wrote a unicycle Marcus do you have a fucking I do I do mine is the suitcase killer of Lubbock Texans Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1335] This guy's name was Rosendo Rodriguez.

[1336] He murdered a prostitute one night and put her body in a suitcase.

[1337] Sex worker, sex worker, thanks, yes, yeah.

[1338] What's that?

[1339] Sex worker.

[1340] Sex worker.

[1341] Yes, he prostitute a bad term.

[1342] It is, it is, yes.

[1343] Huh.

[1344] He murdered a sex worker one night and put her body into a suitcase, through the suitcase in the landfill.

[1345] and she was found a couple days later.

[1346] The only thing he forgot to do was take the tag off of the suitcase.

[1347] Very interesting.

[1348] So they quickly traced the tag back to the local Walmart where he had been caught on video paying for the suitcase and a pair of rubber gloves with his debit card.

[1349] I do love the idea that he passed by a JCPenney's, passed by a Target.

[1350] I know I can get a deal over at the Walmart.

[1351] I'm not paying...

[1352] prizes for the suitcase.

[1353] The Walmart in Lubbock, Texas is the only place that is open 24 hours.

[1354] So he made the right decision there.

[1355] I thought you meant when he left the tag on that it said his name and address in his city.

[1356] I really enjoyed that mistake of like, well, I'm just going to throw her body out here with this old bag.

[1357] Oh, dang.

[1358] Turns out I've been to Peru recently as well.

[1359] Isn't that nice?

[1360] I want to know what fucking hobo was looking through the landfill and was like, I know hobo's a bad word.

[1361] I'm fucking kidding.

[1362] I swear to God.

[1363] Was looking through the land.

[1364] Hobo, you can't say hobo.

[1365] You can't say hobo?

[1366] Oh, it's true.

[1367] Who's right to describe Henry's father?

[1368] Honestly, when it comes down to it, I think a homeless man would love to be called a hobo because that name's got a character.

[1369] Yeah, it's like a train writer.

[1370] Hobo sounds like Soho.

[1371] It's very she.

[1372] Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1373] I'm a no home person.

[1374] That's a good way.

[1375] That's very nice.

[1376] Yeah, they caught this guy, and they found out that they actually sold a cold case.

[1377] You'll love this.

[1378] There was a two -year -old cold case with this girl, this 17 -year -old girl, called Joanna Rogers that people have been looking for forever.

[1379] He actually, during his confession, he, in exchange for getting the death penalty taken off at the table, he told them that he could tell them the location of Joanna Rogers.

[1380] They found her.

[1381] When he went to trial, he put her in a plea and not guilty.

[1382] They said, fuck you, you're getting a chair, and he's sitting on death row right now.

[1383] Isn't that something?

[1384] Sometimes it works.

[1385] Hell yeah.

[1386] Fuck yeah, dude.

[1387] All right, that's it.

[1388] Thanks, you guys.

[1389] Well, thank you.

[1390] Thank you so much.

[1391] Thank you.

[1392] Thank you very much.

[1393] We love you.

[1394] It's me, Jamie again.

[1395] As mentioned earlier, I did write a book.

[1396] It's my first book.

[1397] And it's called Weddiculous, an unfiltered guide to bring.

[1398] I think you said Wedilicious, which I love.

[1399] No, I was like, should I have called it that?

[1400] But it's called Whediculous.

[1401] It's an unfiltered guide to being a bride.

[1402] And it is available for pre -order now, and it comes out on December 27th.

[1403] But if you could like pre -order it and give it to all your friends who are getting engaged or are planning a wedding right now.

[1404] I know you know people like that.

[1405] If it's not yourself, it's someone you know.

[1406] Pre -order sales count towards the first week of sales, which counts towards getting on the New York Times.

[1407] Oh, my God.

[1408] Now, stay sexy.

[1409] Don't get murder.