Freakonomics Radio XX
[0] From APM, American Public Media and WNYC, this is Freakonomics Radio on Marketplace.
[1] Here's the host of Marketplace, Kai Risdahl.
[2] Time now for a little bit of Freakonomics Radio, that moment in the broadcast every couple of weeks where we talk to Stephen Dubner, the co -author of the books and the blog of the same name.
[3] It's the hidden side of everything this week in the spirit of the season.
[4] Dubner weaves a tale of charitable giving as only Freakonomics can do it.
[5] Today we begin in Australia with a story of Dick Smith.
[6] Dick Smith made a lot of money with his chain of electronics stores.
[7] Now, he says, he gives 20 % of his income to charity.
[8] He says Australians don't give nearly enough, so he started a campaign to convince them to give more.
[9] Now, I've written to Rupert.
[10] I know him.
[11] That's Rupert Murdoch he's talking about.
[12] And he's sort of made out to me that he does give some money away, but it's done confidentially.
[13] But talking to his staff, Rupert Murdoch's staff, they say, no, Dick, there is not a generous bone in his body.
[14] Smith continued with the gentle approach, hoping a bit of quiet persuasion, would make Australians open their wallets like the rich Americans you hear about so often.
[15] But I've not succeeded.
[16] I've completely failed.
[17] So now I'm going publicly and outing these people and at least embarrassing them, hoping that one will break ranks.
[18] and fulfill obligations of putting something back into society.
[19] As you can imagine, this shame game didn't sit so well with everyone.
[20] There have been articles.
[21] The article that I believe you're referring to was, is Dick Smith just a dead?
[22] Writer Matthew Beechie thinks this is a bad idea.
[23] I think he's stirring the pot a bit.
[24] It's too soon to say how well Smith's shaming routine will work.
[25] But it made me wonder, when it comes to charitable.
[26] giving.
[27] What does work?
[28] I asked someone who knows.
[29] I'm John List and I'm a professor at the University of Chicago and I focus on the economics of charity.
[30] All right.
[31] So let's say you're trying to raise money for, I don't know, a public radio station.
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[34] John List discovered that a good way to start raising money is by telling people that you put some of your own money in the pot already.
[35] You know, see, money.
[36] So what we found is that the more seed money that you had, not only induced more people to give, but those people actually gave more money.
[37] All right.
[38] So seed money works.
[39] What about the old matching gift trick?
[40] What the experts will tell you is that the larger the match is, the more effective or the more dollars you will raise.
[41] And that's just flat out false.
[42] What list found is that a one -to -one match does work well, but increasing the match to two to one or three to one doesn't do any additional good.
[43] But here's something that is worthwhile.
[44] Raffles.
[45] If you're serious about raising money, offer people a prize.
[46] And just by doing that, you end up increasing gifts by as much as 100%.
[47] And here's my favorite.
[48] It's called the once and done.
[49] It lets you opt out.
[50] It's giving the control of the relationship to the solicitie.
[51] Here's how it works.
[52] Since charities know it's annoying to constantly get solicitations in the mail, they give you a choice.
[53] If you send in some money today and then check a box opting out, will never bother you again.
[54] Given the once -and -done proposition, they not only give more money in that particular fundraising drive, but they do not check the box.
[55] and in future months, they end up giving more money than people who never received the once -and -done proposition.
[56] Since John List seems to know all the charity tricks that work, I asked him about Dick Smith, the Australian electronics mogul, and his shaming idea.
[57] You think that is a good strategy for fundraising, or is Dick Smith just as one Australian columnist put it just a f***ead?
[58] Well, I think the strategy is probably good in the short run, but I wonder in the long run if those millionaires or billionaires might flee the continent and seek refuge elsewhere.
[59] And then you have a short run gain, but a long run loss.
[60] I'm Stephen Dubner for Marketplace.
[61] For Economics Radio is the website, Dubner's back in a couple of weeks.