#982 - Honey Honey

[0] Rose because then we won't get shit -faced.

[1] No, I told Joe, and also it occurred to me, Joe probably has all this other shit.

[2] He's not going to have rosé.

[3] So we should show up with rosé?

[4] I definitely wouldn't have rosé.

[5] We're live.

[6] Rose A is not my thing, but I'm not an anti -Rose person.

[7] I'll drink a fucking peanut collada from the moment presents itself.

[8] How to go in there?

[9] You just enjoyed it, right?

[10] Yeah, it was good.

[11] It's a good summertime beverage.

[12] Would everybody like some Jack Daniels?

[13] It's single malt.

[14] Hold on.

[15] Single barrel.

[16] Let me chug this rosé first.

[17] What does that even mean?

[18] It's just in one.

[19] of those barrels.

[20] Oh, one barrel.

[21] One barrel.

[22] It's supposed to what?

[23] You move it around a bunch of barrels?

[24] Double barrel, yeah, you rebarle that shit.

[25] Like a fucking shotgun.

[26] Oh, my God.

[27] I've listened to Jimmy Hendrix Live machine gun.

[28] You know that song?

[29] Yeah, do you do -d -d -d -a -d -d -d -gag -jid.

[30] God damn, that's one of those songs where sometimes you hear it and you just go, oh, wow.

[31] Like, I've maybe been missing out on how good this fucking song is.

[32] Yeah, he's conjuring shit up.

[33] Doon -dun -dun -dun -dun.

[34] It's just so good Is it off that band of Gypsy's record?

[35] Exactly, yeah, it's all live.

[36] Yes, I almost just stopped myself from saying fuck and then I realized where we were.

[37] Yeah, thank God, right?

[38] You're not on the regular radio show.

[39] Have we ever fucked that one up on the real radio, on the censored radio?

[40] I don't know.

[41] But there's this song called The Power of Love.

[42] Sorry, I just want to keep talking about Jimmy Hendix.

[43] It's the fourth track that's fucking insane.

[44] I mean, all this stuff's insane, but there's this tone that he hits that just like carves a piece out of your soul.

[45] When I used to work with Phil Hartman, he told me a story about when he was at the whiskey.

[46] And I think he was a teenager still.

[47] I think Phil was like 18 or 19 or something.

[48] And he was working as like a stage hand.

[49] And his job was to hold up the speaker while Jimmy Hendrix was on stage because the stage was so small and the speaker was kind of rocking.

[50] So he had to stand there, stand there and hold up the speaker.

[51] Wow.

[52] He said Jimmy Hendricks was five feet in front of me. He said it was fucking incredible.

[53] When Hendricks was just sort of becoming Hendricks.

[54] So early.

[55] I don't know.

[56] That'd be like 1960.

[57] We could like a go back over when he died and when, you know, he would have been like 18 or 19.

[58] But I don't remember the exact age.

[59] He died in 1970.

[60] Okay.

[61] Really?

[62] Yeah, pretty sure.

[63] Look at you encyclopedia.

[64] I loved her.

[65] Ben Tanica.

[66] Hartman died in like, I think, 98.

[67] So whatever that was those 20 years before that So would have been like in the early 70s I guess Yeah That doesn't make sense actually I wish we could go back in time And experienced music Like in the 60s and 70s When it was just like everything was new You'd never heard anything like that before Right It was the first time they got real drugs Wait what were the demonic chords been We were talking about this the other day Back in like the is this like Renaissance time?

[68] It was like the 1600s There was cores, they thought to be demonic.

[69] Yeah, they were evil.

[70] Like, if they heard the shit we played today, it would be like, you'd be burned at the steak.

[71] Well, I think it's just a nine blowing.

[72] Oh, yeah, fuck that.

[73] He would have been toast.

[74] Well, just the beginning of voodoo child.

[75] Right.

[76] You know?

[77] You hear that?

[78] I never get sick of that.

[79] But that's kind of, well, you really stop and think about, like, there was a clear evolution, right?

[80] There was a bunch of shit going on.

[81] There was Chuck Barry, and there was Little Richard, and then there was Elvis, and there was all these rock and roll.

[82] guys and then all of a sudden there's this eruption out of that and it's led zeppelin yeah and it's the who and it's hendricks and it's like people that were just on a completely different level queen yeah queen in their prime but it's interesting like they all were driven like well zeppelin was all blues music they just they kind of stole a lot of shit they sold a lot of shit oh yeah that's fucked up isn't it no it's kind of part of the it's fucked up that they are dicks about him but it's not out of the ordinary, because all those dudes were just playing each other's songs anyway.

[83] That is a giant problem.

[84] If you're the guy who created the opening rift to stairway to heaven, it's about your song, and then you try to do it.

[85] Well, the other side of that spectrum is really fucked up, though, too, because now you're in this game where, like, if you play anything remotely sounds like that, you'll get sued.

[86] Right.

[87] And at this point, like, I mean, I don't rip off songs from other people, and we don't do that, but, like, you could make us, you could write a song, and then not know that it had a sense.

[88] similar thing, similar melody and somebody could come after you and that fucking blows.

[89] We were just talking about that bittersweet symphony song from the verve how they gave all their money to the Rolling Stones because the opening riff was too similar which is crazy.

[90] They took it's a sample isn't it?

[91] It might be.

[92] Yeah, it's kind of Andrew Lou Oldham produced the stones and did all this orchestrations for them and they just Oh, they just sampled it.

[93] How does that work though?

[94] That seems kind of crazy that you give it all the money.

[95] I don't mind you give them the money.

[96] I'm sure didn't give all of it.

[97] I mean, they had publishing on their actual song, right?

[98] Is that different?

[99] I don't know the facts.

[100] Is it different?

[101] Like, as a musician, do you feel like that feels different if someone just uses like, like if someone heard Ice Ice Baby, they knew it was under pressure, right?

[102] Right.

[103] I mean, it's almost like it's not hurting the original song.

[104] Well, it's almost like a collaboration at that point, because your song was inspired by another song, and obviously there's credit due for that.

[105] But it's just an interesting way that the pie gets cut up.

[106] Right.

[107] And the way people just tenaciously hold on to piece in this way that I don't know it really bums me out to be on I mean obviously you need to get paid and make a living but inspirationally speaking it just the barometer is just so like people just go so far off the course in order to get credit and money for things that it's just bullshit but I think it's so difficult you were just talking about that in there it's so difficult to have a career that keeps paying you if anybody has something that's close to the son you're just like I'm like, that's it, because that's the only way I'm going to be able to afford this house.

[108] The music business in particular, or I shouldn't say the music business, because I never really say the comedy business.

[109] I would say the comedy world.

[110] Because I think you guys are like the closest to big business in the way like your contracts are.

[111] You always hear like these nightmare contracts.

[112] We're like, Jesus.

[113] Like for us, we've never made money doing anything but performing.

[114] So no one ever like got a grip of the other stuff.

[115] Right.

[116] Like with musicians, you guys all made a lot of money selling actual albums back in the day.

[117] But I mean, musicians, the folks of the past.

[118] But I guess they always went through record labels.

[119] Yeah, but there's no money in it.

[120] There's no money.

[121] I mean, I should say like a few guys made money.

[122] Like, Dane Cook probably made a ton of money because he had the biggest selling comedy album of all time.

[123] This was like, is at least platinum.

[124] It might have went double platinum.

[125] Do you get paid as an actor at that point?

[126] or is it is it like he must have had a deal with the record company unless he released it himself some people can release their stuff themselves but I don't know how this is audio you mean this isn't like a live DVD okay no but as soon as it gets to be a live DVD there's two options one is you could pay for it all yourself pay for the filming and then sell it to whatever organization whether it's Netflix or what have you or Comedy Central you could do it that way what is this here we go two of them went platinum the first two they both went platinum yeah see that's a that's that's a that's huge sales 1 million 215 ,000 and 1 million 200 or 264 ,000 for the second one that's incredible like for like for like a stand -up comedian to sell that many albums he was a real and people actually bought them it was a number yeah that's funny I wonder what was number one um I don't know it's good question but 2003 with that you ask comedy number one and two He's number one and two.

[127] Look, he's right there, number one.

[128] No, yeah, but at the time.

[129] The second one.

[130] Yeah, that's 2003.

[131] That's the highest it ever got was number two.

[132] Oh.

[133] So someone outpeaked old day chart positions.

[134] Did Dave Chappelle do live, or audio?

[135] He didn't have records.

[136] So that was number one on the comedy charts?

[137] It was number one, period.

[138] Oh, okay.

[139] What the fuck would mean number two if his was number one?

[140] This one made the number four in the whole U .S. chart overall.

[141] Wow, that's crazy.

[142] That's huge.

[143] That's giant.

[144] So that's it Like I didn't make shit I mean I made some money When I had a record on Warner Brothers In 1999 Woo Good year It was a good year Is it like a space monkey thing?

[145] No that was called I'm gonna be dead someday That was my first thing And then And then The next one was Shiny Happy Jihad That was And then Talking Monkeys in space That was the one else We need to get our collection For the road travels Yeah I'll hook you guys up Hook that shit up, man. Get on the Spotify.

[146] How many albums you guys have now?

[147] Trace albums.

[148] But we just, we're releasing solo records this year.

[149] So it's been like a really interesting, like we're working together and separately.

[150] It's crazy.

[151] You guys keeping it together?

[152] You get weird with each other.

[153] All the time.

[154] All the time.

[155] Both, yeah.

[156] Both.

[157] But that is the way it is always, and possibly always will be.

[158] Do you think that is, I feel like as long as everyone's kind, it's unavoidable and it's like part of the process of dealing with people.

[159] It's like people get on each other's nerves.

[160] We definitely act like shitheads and then we have these moments of great communication.

[161] Well, that's the end goal.

[162] But I think I can say that our relationship has made my other relationships in my life so much better because you have to administer patience and listen and really just have, you know.

[163] It's hard for people, right?

[164] Yeah, well, you've got to learn how to be wrong, you know, and say you're sorry when you fuck up.

[165] Like, I'm sorry.

[166] I was wrong.

[167] I was stupid of me. I shouldn't have said that.

[168] It's also there's a balancing act that some people never achieve of listening to someone and thinking about what they're saying and then responding because of that or just saying what's on your mind.

[169] Like there's like this balancing act.

[170] Like sometimes you just want to say what's on your mind.

[171] Sometimes you have to like absorb what this person is saying to you and then you have to respect it and address it and try to figure out how as a person that cares about them what's the best way to get out what you're thinking.

[172] Sometimes you don't do that.

[173] And then you have to deal with emotions happening at the same goddamn time, which completely changed the way you could speak and move and, you know, I mean.

[174] Something that, just crack this.

[175] Yeah, I got a great therapist.

[176] I love her so much.

[177] And she, you know, accepting people is a huge deal.

[178] And just saying, hey, you and I have very different truths or like, you know, not you and I, but ever, you know, anyone.

[179] And when you're arguing with somebody or you're in disagreement, what is true to them could be completely.

[180] different to you but you know if you just fight that and keep fighting that you're going to be so fucked yeah and like there's no there's no peace involved in in that scenario so just like accepting your differences is it's half the battle how do we relay your message to the rest of the world and solve this fucking problem how do we just the world's worlds in conflict learn how to say you're sorry learn how to be wrong and then and then listen to each other for crying out loud I think that's so important I feel like people want to be right when you politics right now are just such a shit show and if I try to stay on board I just get so exhausted because it's never ending there's no there's no moment of of peace it's like okay now I'm gonna I'm gonna piss now you're gonna piss now I'm gonna piss and we're just gonna keep pissing and it just doesn't like I'd I'd I don't know.

[181] I'm really annoyed with all of that.

[182] I can't stand it.

[183] Did you see what that shit poster guy, Baked Alaska did?

[184] What he posted?

[185] He posted a tweet that somehow he was proud that the president was shit posting.

[186] Because you know what the president did?

[187] What Trump did?

[188] He took that meme.

[189] CNN of him.

[190] Slamming the guy with a CNN head.

[191] And this baked Alaska guy who's like a famous shit poster.

[192] Do you know what a shit poster is?

[193] They say, like, ridiculous shit in their memes, and they fuck with people and they get people upset.

[194] It's pretty funny stuff.

[195] I'm so honored to live in a country where I'm president's shit posting on Twitter.

[196] It really makes the world a better place.

[197] That's hilarious.

[198] Baked Alaska.

[199] It's fucking funny, man. He had the funniest meme about Alex Jones, and I didn't know it was his, and I posted it on my Instagram.

[200] Somebody sent it to me. I didn't know who it was, and I posted it, and then he got mad at me, and he said I was stealing jokes.

[201] But if I had known it was his, I definitely would have given him credit.

[202] it but the meme is hilarious it's hot it's him in the hot tub what's the one with a Alex Jones in a hot tub when everybody wants to chill but you're so woke you can't help drop truth bombs it's Alex Jones in a hot tub with sunglasses on it's just such a perfect meme for Alex that's a real art form the funny meme yeah oh it really is and it's not they're getting fucked do you want to talk about people getting fucked yeah the creators of the funny memes yeah I feel like there it is people try to relax But you're so woke You just happen to drop another truth bomb Look at him Look his sunglasses on I love Alex Dude he is red Oh yeah Well that might be a filter Instagram uses a lot of filters To make you look unhealthy It's Is there a lot of shaming With the meme stuff though now It's like if you start stealing people's memes You're a target You become well yeah But the problem is a lot of people Are still not aware Like there's a lot of people That have become famous Because they have websites And their pages get millions and millions and millions of followers and all they're doing is stealing people's memes.

[203] And some of them have been forced to credit people and some of them just sort of like that fat Jewish guy.

[204] He just sort of writes the person who created its name in the comment.

[205] He had in big trouble, though.

[206] He got in trouble, yeah.

[207] He got caught.

[208] How do you recover from that?

[209] You don't in my book.

[210] But it's the wild west.

[211] I mean, that's what it is.

[212] Yeah.

[213] It's like no one knew how, I mean, if you send me something, and it's really hilarious, you know and then like Eddie Bravo just sent me one on Bill Cosby I don't think I could share it but it's it's fucked up enough I could show it to you but he sends it to me and I'm like bah ha ha ha I don't know who the fuck came up with it you know it says you when you realize building a wall fucks your quailude supply oh my god oh that face did he make that I was going to say did Eddie make that he might have I don't know I have no idea Eddie does a lot of funny shit He might have made that himself But I don't know who made that You know what I mean?

[214] So like when something like that happens He sends it to me I might send it to Jamie Jamie might send it to Brendan Well when you make it can you put your Oh no Oh no He might have been Eddie might have made that That's gonna haunt my dreams But The point is like How dare you How does someone I mean so easy to make one of those But it's a really funny joke Like how does someone like claim that There's almost gonna be Can you put your stamp Like can you have like a watermark?

[215] Your icon, I guess.

[216] That seems annoying, though.

[217] You'd have to do that.

[218] All the shit is annoying.

[219] Yeah.

[220] But if you, like, if you, like, if you, like, if you, Ben had a Instagram page and you started putting up those memes, people would steal them.

[221] But if you made your own.

[222] If you just decided, you know, between, as an exercise, in between writing songs, I want to write some fucking joke memes.

[223] Yeah, I'll meme it for a little bit.

[224] Instagram.

[225] Yeah.

[226] I think I don't, I guess I just let it.

[227] I think I'd struggle with that.

[228] That's a tough one.

[229] Be an issue, right?

[230] You'd be like these motherfuckers.

[231] But you're already co -operers.

[232] opting other people's images anyway and a lot of the time you phrases and stuff like that it's almost like collage remember when you got in that little battle with uh mark merrin you guys got in a battle i got a twitter fight with mark mary was a little bit of a twitter argument over what mark merr by the way we'll argue with his own mom on twitter yeah what happened he said something about he he he said i don't know why this piss me off he said memes are our our culture the cancer of our culture's imagination oh that's not true shut that's fuck up and that's and i kind of sent him this Get out of Silver Lake, take a deep breath.

[233] Yeah, you don't know, like, because I was also reading this other shit.

[234] He had a great retort, though.

[235] You said, I don't think you know exactly what it means.

[236] Sorry, I jumped in.

[237] Do it, take it home.

[238] What did you say?

[239] No, he said, I sent back kind of like a similarly bitchy thing because I was reading about memes in a different context.

[240] And I was like, oh, it's actually not what memes means all the time, Mark.

[241] And he was like, I knew exactly what it memes.

[242] And I was like, fuck, that's really funny.

[243] Damn.

[244] But then he went on and kind of like drove it home.

[245] He called me a poetry assassin.

[246] I was narrow -minded, and I was like, dude, she'll be narrow -minded.

[247] Because you don't agree with his assessment of memes?

[248] Because I went back at him, I don't know.

[249] Wow, that means you had narrow -minded.

[250] We had some friends dropping in and being like, hey, honey, honey, you're great.

[251] That was a great moment because Vernon Reed for his man called Living Color chimed in and stood up.

[252] He stood up for us.

[253] I think we as human beings have to resist.

[254] Memes are the cancer cells and the cultural imagination.

[255] Oh, God.

[256] And by the way, you know what I hate about it the most?

[257] No capital letter, no period.

[258] No!

[259] You can't do that.

[260] We were on tour when this was happening.

[261] And we were like, I don't know.

[262] It's a cool man, but sorry, but you're wrong.

[263] So I'm like, I definitely can't claim any victory in that situation.

[264] No, I think we had to pull over.

[265] We had to pull over so we could figure out what to do.

[266] You might as well have a cigarette holder if you're writing that.

[267] You should have a black turtleneck and a cigarette holder.

[268] No, it's bullshit.

[269] I'm proud of you.

[270] You should be listening to jazz.

[271] You should be listening to jazz if you write that.

[272] I like jazz.

[273] What's wrong with jazz?

[274] Nothing.

[275] Jazz is great.

[276] But just some people that listen to jazz, just so people know they're listening to jazz, sure.

[277] You know that guy.

[278] You know that guy.

[279] Yeah.

[280] That's that guy.

[281] So I just remember there's this great, you said Little Richard and Jimmy Hendricks before.

[282] Yeah.

[283] Jimmy Hendrix was in Little Richard's band.

[284] Do you know that?

[285] Oh, yeah.

[286] I forgot about that.

[287] Before he was, you know, what he was.

[288] I think I read that.

[289] And there's this great fucking interview with Little Richard talking about Jimmy Hendrix.

[290] Just high as a kite.

[291] It's amazing.

[292] And also, how about it?

[293] Jerry Lee Lewis.

[294] Jerry Lee Lewis fucking killed.

[295] How many wives?

[296] Oh, my God.

[297] Didn't he kill a couple of them?

[298] He said, he made my toe go up my boot.

[299] What?

[300] Heroin.

[301] He's a guy.

[302] It's the only problem that some people have been put in the dipper and pulled back on the world.

[303] Whoa.

[304] That's what the answer is.

[305] Jesus, Little Richard's amazing.

[306] That's what to answer.

[307] You got to be placed into the dipper and pulled back down on the world.

[308] And then men will see your Good works and glorify God Jehovah.

[309] Jimmy Hendricks could play that rock and roll.

[310] I used to be singing rock and going to be gone.

[311] He'd have that thing just romping and tumping all up under my toes.

[312] At time, he used to make my big toe shoot up in my boot.

[313] He did it so good.

[314] He gave it all to you.

[315] Love him so much.

[316] And that's what you want.

[317] You want it all and none.

[318] Can I just pause this right here?

[319] own.

[320] Little Rich is what every gay man should aspire to.

[321] Just be so fucking fabulous that you are undeniable.

[322] So good.

[323] And Freddie Mercury, we were talking about him earlier.

[324] You've seen those, it's like mid -70s shit.

[325] And it blows my mind.

[326] I haven't seen anything.

[327] Because the dude doesn't know.

[328] He looks like Lord Farquod, if that means anything, to anybody.

[329] But he's tall, and he's got this skin -tight white suit.

[330] And his mid -70s, and he's gay, and his dick is just like, boom.

[331] Like, you can just see his dick.

[332] He doesn't give a fuck.

[333] And he's present.

[334] If you do that now, you'd be done.

[335] You can't do that.

[336] Yes, you can.

[337] No, you can't do that.

[338] Who is up on stage with their dick hanging out?

[339] Was it actually hanging out?

[340] Literally, you're just like, oh, there's his dick.

[341] No, it wasn't like...

[342] Like outside of his pants, you're saying?

[343] No. Yeah.

[344] Okay, dude, you're not doing a good job with this.

[345] Here, let me clear this out.

[346] It doesn't need to be outside.

[347] It's a transparent material.

[348] Oh, really?

[349] I'm like a stocking?

[350] If Justin Timberlake did that, it would be all fucking over.

[351] If you're listening, you should do this.

[352] You should do it.

[353] See what happens.

[354] Express yourself.

[355] See what happened.

[356] His feet moving fast.

[357] Some of us want to know.

[358] No, but I just thought it was crazy that it was so different that people were somehow except, you know, just.

[359] So is it panty hose?

[360] Like, what is he?

[361] He's got this, like, skin -tight body suit.

[362] Right, and what color is it?

[363] White.

[364] But how did it make you feel?

[365] Pure white.

[366] I was fascinated.

[367] So you're looking at his dick like as if he was wearing, like, tight underwear, right?

[368] It's beyond that.

[369] You know what I'm saying?

[370] Is it pictures?

[371] You can make up, it's a live DVD.

[372] What about, like, what about stuff like that?

[373] Like what?

[374] But that's a movie about people stripping.

[375] This is a live concert in front of people.

[376] Anybody can fucking go.

[377] And the dude just like, bam.

[378] Dick out.

[379] Yeah.

[380] It just shocked me, no, Sean.

[381] And inspired.

[382] Do you remember those old Led Zeppelin pictures?

[383] How is this going to affect your solo record released this fall?

[384] Remember those old, those old Led Zeppelin pictures where Robert would have his hog tucked up on side of his leg?

[385] I mean, you can't lie about that.

[386] You can't fake that.

[387] Everybody would know.

[388] Yeah, but when you wear underwear, he doesn't show like that.

[389] and he probably got hard before the photo.

[390] That is a talent in and of itself, let alone the voice of an angel.

[391] Well, if you just put a rubber band around your cock and balls right before you do it.

[392] Like, look at them there.

[393] That's insane.

[394] That looks like, that looks uncomfortable.

[395] Like how do you walk with that?

[396] Definitely was.

[397] You walk, cock out.

[398] Yeah, that's right.

[399] You kind of tilt.

[400] Like look at the one of the white there.

[401] Yeah, he's jukeman.

[402] Jesus Christ.

[403] So imagine that.

[404] That's his dick.

[405] Imagine that, but if you could see like the outline.

[406] And, you know, there's a well -defined head.

[407] Always to be Freddie Mercury.

[408] Well, then you know it's real.

[409] Maybe you're not like a problem.

[410] Put his dick to the right.

[411] Isn't that the thing that you hang one way?

[412] You can't really change it, right?

[413] What?

[414] Like, I'm right -handed.

[415] This is offensive.

[416] You don't even have a penis.

[417] You're offending me. Well, I'm asking.

[418] I want to know.

[419] Show what.

[420] If you were a girl and we were talking about your vagina, it would be really gross, right?

[421] Would that be gross?

[422] questions about what a vagina.

[423] Let's talk about it.

[424] What do you want to know?

[425] Which way does your vagina slant?

[426] Hangs right.

[427] I think it's just right down the middle.

[428] You got perfectly proportioned.

[429] Every Robert Plant one is Dick swinging to the left?

[430] Maybe it's that big.

[431] He's got to tuck it in a leg.

[432] He's got to choose a leg and he's just gotten comfortable.

[433] He's got like a groove on the left side where it tucks in.

[434] I mean, if you position yourself on stage a certain way, and I mean, you guys all have dicks, right?

[435] So you don't...

[436] Allegedly.

[437] But you don't wear pants as tight as Robert Plant.

[438] I mean, check me out.

[439] Look at this.

[440] What is it going on here?

[441] These guys pants down.

[442] Is that a scrotum?

[443] It says Robert's Last Stand.

[444] What is it?

[445] Is that a real photo?

[446] I don't think so.

[447] That's a real cover of real album?

[448] That's not one of the record.

[449] I found the blank one and then there was the real one was attached to it.

[450] Encyclopedia, Bentanica.

[451] Is that a real cover?

[452] Oh, so in that one you actually see his dick?

[453] Is that what the implication is?

[454] God.

[455] I have these moments when we're.

[456] we're podcasting around.

[457] I'm like, God, I hope my parents never listen to this.

[458] They definitely will.

[459] But they might, they might really be into it.

[460] I don't know.

[461] What do you think, Ben?

[462] Well, here's the thing.

[463] Ray and Caff.

[464] I've been going through a thing with my mom.

[465] We don't really know each other that well, right?

[466] It's the truth.

[467] And I feel like this, she would learn a lot about me and my life.

[468] Oh, my God.

[469] That's heavy.

[470] That's a lot.

[471] Should we send it to her?

[472] Definitely not.

[473] No. I don't think she'd handle it.

[474] That would be horrifying.

[475] I think she'd be freaked out.

[476] Yeah.

[477] Sorry, Mom.

[478] It's okay.

[479] She loves you.

[480] She's a delicate person.

[481] Whenever, I mean, especially, I mean, especially.

[482] I mean, especially especially in this day and age, whenever do you have a chance to sit and talk to someone for three hours straight like this?

[483] It's rare.

[484] It's sort of the cure for what ails us when it comes to communicating, like, podcasts, because it's so informal, and it's really just like sitting down talking, which is what a lot of us don't ever have the chance to do anymore.

[485] Everyone is always doing a million things.

[486] You're always looking at your phone.

[487] You're always about to go somewhere.

[488] You got a meeting.

[489] You got to this.

[490] You got to that.

[491] When the fuck do you ever get three hours?

[492] Just sit.

[493] To just sit.

[494] It's a special thing.

[495] It is.

[496] We're very excited to be here.

[497] But isn't it crazy that just talking is a special thing?

[498] Like that shows you how weird we are right now.

[499] As human beings, like as an organism that grew up in a social environment.

[500] I mean, every person that survives that's alive today comes from a history of people that were in tribes.

[501] Right.

[502] We're in these little groups of people and social interaction was everything.

[503] Like you had to know each other.

[504] But so was being alone.

[505] And that doesn't happen very often either when people.

[506] people well I mean someone's moody how dare you come on no but you're talking about like devices I couldn't help myself no I love you but you're dick but it's true like I we're always so busy there's always shit going on and like I definitely have these moments where like I wasn't just sitting not talking to someone or looking at my phone like I can't remember when I wasn't just moving and not even meditating just like sitting.

[507] I've become super aware, at least over the last year, that there's a lot of wasted time in looking at devices and computers.

[508] I've been real aware of it to the point where I had to weigh my benefits of it are, the benefits are pretty numerous.

[509] Like I get a lot of really interesting articles off of social media and really interesting articles that I find online and really interesting, up -to -date information about space and science.

[510] That's very, very valuable.

[511] me but then there's also a lot of scrolling through nonsense totally it's equally as fruitful as it is beguiling because you get fucked up and lost in it and like I wanted to invent this app that I think someone probably already did it but that puts a lock on your social media so you only get like 20 minutes a day and once it's up it's done they have those they have those yeah I mean you don't want it you just want to develop some but it's also crucial for our careers like it's crucial to yes your your thing is built on social media yes it's crazy The thing is, though, you need time alone where you're bored.

[512] This is what I believe.

[513] Read a book.

[514] I think you need time to just be able to sit and think about something or do something.

[515] Like, practice something when you're, like, I'm sure you guys are like this with music, right?

[516] Ben's a great practiser.

[517] I'm really envious of his discipline.

[518] He practices guitar every day.

[519] Yeah, you've got to.

[520] It's like meditation.

[521] It's the same thing.

[522] Yeah, I think that there's something to that, for sure, that some people don't experience.

[523] You put your phone over there or shut it off or put it in an airplane mode and just do your thing, you know?

[524] Well, you know what's crazy about the practice is when you can separate, because it's tough because I'll have devices on my phone that help me practice.

[525] I'll metronomes and stuff.

[526] And then all of a sudden, thing, bang, the stuff's going off.

[527] And the difference between when I don't have my phone, when I'm not communicating with the social media world or texting, whatever.

[528] And when I do, it's insane.

[529] In 20 minutes, it's like working out.

[530] If you focus for 20 minutes, it's going to replace three hours of shitty working out.

[531] Am I right about that?

[532] Yeah, for sure.

[533] Yeah, it's all about how much, how deep you can go in, you know, just cognitively.

[534] And I think in general people were like coming to grips with this now as like an etiquette.

[535] Because we didn't fucking, 10 years ago, none of this stuff existed.

[536] This is like fresh out the gate.

[537] So we're trying to figure this out.

[538] And there's this dude.

[539] You just see people paying more and more attention exactly what you're saying.

[540] There's this guy that wrote a book called Deep Work, and it's like going viral.

[541] People are paying attention to this guy's ideas that are exactly what we're talking about.

[542] You need to shut off social media advice, you know, stuff, input, and allow your brain to sink down deep.

[543] And that's where real value comes from, right?

[544] That's the only way to access real value.

[545] Where people don't even realize how it'll take over your life and your relationships.

[546] Well, it's new.

[547] It's too new.

[548] It's not that new.

[549] It's so new.

[550] new.

[551] It's so new.

[552] I guess it is.

[553] You're right.

[554] 19.

[555] What is it like?

[556] 1994 is the internet.

[557] Okay.

[558] That's like the main spread of the internet.

[559] 94.

[560] I remember when we had Juno.

[561] Juno, uh, and it was like, it was like electronic.

[562] It wasn't email yet.

[563] Yeah.

[564] It was just like.

[565] But do you understand that this is only like 10 years old?

[566] That is crazy.

[567] With the iPhones, this is, what, didn't they just go through the 10th anniversary of the iPhone?

[568] That's when it started.

[569] Before that, there were no apps.

[570] Okay.

[571] So if there's no apps, there's no Twitter, there's no Facebook.

[572] on your phone, the snake game where it goes, it, like, you just had arrows and you had to get the snake through this maze.

[573] I don't play games.

[574] You don't play that?

[575] No. It was a thing, Joe.

[576] You really missed out.

[577] Okay, I'm sorry to tell you.

[578] What about fart, ninja?

[579] Wait, what was it called?

[580] Puzzle farter?

[581] Ten years.

[582] Puzzle farter!

[583] No. Joe, come on.

[584] Puzzle farter?

[585] Yeah.

[586] Jamie, if you find that, I swear to God, you're like, oh my God, it's amazing.

[587] Is it worth something?

[588] It was a thing.

[589] Oh my God, when we did our first record.

[590] It might have just been a thing with us.

[591] With us.

[592] puzzle fart or you take this little character and you propel him with his own farts with your space bar and your arrows and you think it sounds stupid but you play your first game and you're just laughing.

[593] I love how Joe Hey, Joe has Neil deGrasse Tyson and then he has us talking about puzzle farting.

[594] Hey, live your truth.

[595] This is who we are.

[596] This is actually something that brought us a lot of joy.

[597] Just start demo levels.

[598] It seems like you can play it.

[599] Oh my God, you can play it online.

[600] Get it, get it, get it, get it.

[601] You got to get some sound.

[602] Listen, we're not doing this.

[603] I'm not going to play puzzle farder.

[604] Jamie's going to operate the controls and play puzzle farder.

[605] Didn't I?

[606] Well, one day, challenge yourself.

[607] It's a lot of fun.

[608] I just don't think people are used to the idea of being alone anymore without these devices, and that's only been around for 10 years.

[609] It's a lot of false comfort.

[610] It's crazy.

[611] But I think there's also, like, there's all these different disorders and things that they're coming up with, like, you know, kids and their identity with Instagram and how it reflects their self -worth and how many likes they get and who like their photos and like it's really scary I was looking at an article today where they were saying that girls as early as nine years old they're getting surgery to make their vaginas look better.

[612] Shut the fuck up that's not true yes really they might be making it up just so I'll talk about it yeah I don't think we should I think that sounds no no no I think it's in the daily mail so it might be questionable but who's parents but I know that vagina surgery Like aesthetic, vagina surgeries are on the rise.

[613] Really?

[614] Yeah.

[615] I mean, they didn't exist.

[616] I remember there was a trend when you would dye your pubs blue and put bedazzled.

[617] That was a little.

[618] It was just you.

[619] It's no trend.

[620] It was a thing.

[621] It's like that fart.

[622] Fart puzzle.

[623] You know what you're talking about.

[624] Vigia swim in the same pond.

[625] This is the BBC, guys.

[626] Come on.

[627] That can't be right.

[628] No, scroll back down.

[629] So you see their, look at that headline.

[630] Vigina surgery.

[631] sought by girls as young as nine.

[632] I mean, vaginas are crazy -looking.

[633] Okay, but how...

[634] Okay, here's the thing.

[635] So are dicks.

[636] So we're fired.

[637] Dicks are weird.

[638] No, you're right.

[639] You're right, but it's a lot harder to...

[640] Don't discriminate.

[641] Sorry to interrupt you.

[642] Harder to operate a vagina?

[643] I begged to differ.

[644] No, to operate on a dick than a vagina.

[645] I don't fucking know what I'm talking about.

[646] I'm going to sell.

[647] We really making judgment calls here on what's more...

[648] I really hope your mom doesn't listen to us.

[649] One of these things that we know nothing about is more difficult.

[650] No, it feels right, that.

[651] Operating on body parts.

[652] It feels right.

[653] Um.

[654] Oh.

[655] How do you know like this here's a thing man like CNN just got busted for they got they fired a bunch of people for writing some story about Trump and Russia that wasn't true you hear about that people get like super overzealous trying to make a story real when they didn't do like all the background work that was necessary people got like that's why Trump can get away with calling CNN fake news right sure because they're doing shit because they're doing desperado shit they're getting into that blurry area where they're they're doing things that are, there's a little bit sensationalism and they're trying to get people to pay attention.

[656] Yeah.

[657] And the pace.

[658] How do we know that this is, that's not the case here?

[659] Like when you see some like, I'm sure women are getting vagina surgeries.

[660] We've heard of it.

[661] We know it's a real thing.

[662] But when you see as early as nine, like, man, if that's not instant clickbait, like that probably, saying as young as nine, that might be worth fucking hundreds of thousands of dollars.

[663] Sure.

[664] I mean, I don't know.

[665] I'm just taking a guess.

[666] And they could say if there's one case of this, they could be.

[667] point to that as a reference in sight we'll see you know i mean i would say the absurdity of a young child uh someone anyone like uh looking at their vagina in any kind of pleasurable way is totally fucked up so why would a kid care about the appearance of their vagina do you know what i mean like none of this makes sense well exactly i mean what's even creepier is you cut baby dicks to make them look better for jesus i did that for jesus dude yeah jesus not to be too vulnerable here But the other day, for the first time of my life, saw my circumcision scar.

[668] I was like, holy shit, that's what that is.

[669] How did it make you feel?

[670] It was intense.

[671] I was like, someone cut my dick off -ish.

[672] They're doing it right now.

[673] As we're talking, they're cutting baby dicks all over this country in 2017.

[674] They're just slicing baby dicks for no reason.

[675] There's so many things I want to say, and I just want to keep them to myself at this point.

[676] Because I should.

[677] Well, if you want to say them, I feel like you don't want to keep them to yourself.

[678] I'm going to pass.

[679] Is it about baby dicks?

[680] No, it's about circumcised.

[681] Okay, what else is going on, guys?

[682] How's that Jack Daniel, single barrel?

[683] It's fine.

[684] I know where you're going.

[685] You don't have to say a word.

[686] But, okay.

[687] Yeah, I was about to turn the mulch over.

[688] It's an aesthetic thing.

[689] Yeah, but just because you're fucking used to it.

[690] Sometimes I forget that this is being broadcast and we're not just hanging out of friends.

[691] She just stopped talking.

[692] I know.

[693] We would not have to think about it.

[694] I feel self -aware.

[695] She's going to focus on my Joe action figure.

[696] I mean, how much, if a BBC news article like that probably gets like a million hits, right?

[697] Am I being?

[698] No, I probably not.

[699] Maybe a lot of hits, right?

[700] So how much is that worth?

[701] Like, if you can guarantee 50 % more hits, is it worth thousands of dollars?

[702] Like, how much do they get paid by the ads that are on their website, right?

[703] When I'm on the computer and I'm, like, you know, looking at the, something and then there's those you know distractify kind of things oh yeah and i i click on them because i'm curious i just feel so bad about myself i just feel like such a piece of shit like you should be doing something better with your time suzanne than looking at you know that uh i don't know what it's like before and after pictures of you know what i mean like those articles are like having phone sex with a robot yeah it's like you never get anything out of it you're You're getting fucked.

[704] You're like, this is weird.

[705] Like, there's no, there's no real, it's not a real article.

[706] Like, like, if you read, like, you know, the 18, hot women from the 80s, you should see them now.

[707] Right, right.

[708] And, you know, and you go through them.

[709] And it's like, who's writing this?

[710] Like, no one's even.

[711] But what, who benefits from them?

[712] I'm curious, like, just beyond the veil, like, what is the point they get, does someone get paid for you clicking that button?

[713] Yeah.

[714] That sucks.

[715] 100%.

[716] Yeah, I hate that.

[717] I hate that.

[718] But it's a. same shit.

[719] I mean, like, why do people buy fucking Doritos?

[720] It's the same thing, isn't it?

[721] Yeah.

[722] What do you hate about it, though?

[723] Because I want to use my time and energy wisely and not wasted on things like that, because I'd rather, like, sit with my phone off and my computer off, or learn something that is beneficial.

[724] Right.

[725] I think that's just wasteful.

[726] That's junk food.

[727] It is, but so is Doritos, but Doritos, but Doritos taste good.

[728] Yeah, but they have healthy Doritos.

[729] They have like, they have like, The Chicovel tacos, the shell is a Dorito.

[730] They have that one.

[731] My favorite chip at 365 slash Whole Foods is like, it's like a bean chip, and it tastes like Doritos, and it's not.

[732] Wait a minute.

[733] What's 365 slash Whole Foods?

[734] There's in Glendale in California, in Los Angeles.

[735] It's called 365 slash whole foods.

[736] Yeah, so it's like a cheaper Whole Foods.

[737] It's like the brand, 365 when you go to Whole Foods.

[738] Huh.

[739] Yeah.

[740] It started an outlet.

[741] It's an outlet.

[742] Oh, okay.

[743] For the poor kids.

[744] I didn't know what that was.

[745] It's for everybody.

[746] It's out there.

[747] Okay.

[748] It's out there.

[749] Yeah, check it out.

[750] You know, take it for a spin.

[751] So what were you saying about it?

[752] No, but they have like these, they have these chips.

[753] They have Doritos substitutes.

[754] They taste like Doritos, and I fucking love them.

[755] They're delicious.

[756] You know what I think's adorable?

[757] Trans fats are fucking terrible for you, right?

[758] They're horrible.

[759] And the government has decided to outlaw trans fats.

[760] Right.

[761] In two years.

[762] Yeah, you can eat poison for two years.

[763] Do you think it's interesting?

[764] You get ruthless diarrhea and just shallow calories.

[765] A lot of people are going to die because of obesity because you're addicted to sucking down these things.

[766] When you go to Canada, they have their Heinz ketchup and we have our Heinz ketchup.

[767] And the Canadian Heinz ketchup does not have high fructose corn syrup.

[768] What does it have?

[769] Sugar?

[770] I don't know, but it doesn't have high fructose corn syrup because it's banned.

[771] It tasted differently and I liked it.

[772] I'm not kidding.

[773] I think that's interesting that right on the other side of this border, they have better ketchup.

[774] Well, they have better Coca -Cola in Mexico.

[775] They do.

[776] They use cane sugar.

[777] That's true.

[778] That's true.

[779] I mean, I don't really drink Coca -Cola, but it's...

[780] It does taste better.

[781] It's just interesting what the FDA approves in our country for the food that we eat.

[782] They don't give a fuck about us.

[783] They don't give a fuck.

[784] All those government agencies are a bunch of puppets when it comes to diet and exercise and what you're allowed to put in cigarettes and what you're allowed to put in all sorts of different drugs that get passed.

[785] It is fucking bananas that we were talking about Nevada just became legal for marijuana.

[786] It's fucking bananas how it took until 2017 where states finally started making weed legal while people are dropping off left and right from opiate pills.

[787] There was a study that Dr. Hart, is that his name?

[788] It's on my Twitter.

[789] I tweeted it earlier today or last night.

[790] But it was 93 % of patients that have pain preferred cannabis over opioids.

[791] Sure.

[792] Yeah, that makes sense.

[793] Opioids or opiids?

[794] How is that?

[795] Opioids?

[796] Yeah.

[797] I can attest to that.

[798] Of course.

[799] I mean, menstrual cramps are debilitating for some ladies, I'll be honest.

[800] And that's why I got my weed license because it's, it like, is night and day.

[801] Wow.

[802] Tell them about the thing.

[803] Well, they have, sure, I don't care.

[804] I feel comfortable.

[805] They have, they have suppositories that you put in your.

[806] in your twinkle that just get your eyes fuck no they don't get you i mean they they get your they make this warm wonderful feeling in your belly that is the antithesis of writhing in pain and being out of commission for a day which happens every month i get one or two days where i'm just down i'm in so much pain i can't i can't do anything it's awful uh but but weed has been the best thing that's happened for that ailment whereas you You take Motrin, and you can take Motrin, but it can give you a terrible stomachache because it's really bad.

[807] It's really bad for your liver, and, you know, and you're taking like just handfuls of Motrin.

[808] And Advil, like all those things.

[809] Yeah, it's the same thing, but it's...

[810] Non -steroidal anti -inflammatories.

[811] Those things are super bad for your body.

[812] But it's interesting that that's what you would take as opposed to having weed legal and all of its different medicinal facets that can help you.

[813] Well, the difference is obviously there's a psychoactive effect that's.

[814] probably unwanted for a lot of people that take Advil.

[815] They just want to get rid of the headache.

[816] They don't want to trip their fucking balls off, you know?

[817] But that's where like CBDs come in.

[818] Yeah, they're great.

[819] They're great.

[820] But apparently some people take CBDs and they experience some sort of a psychoactive effect.

[821] I've talked to quite a few people that say that.

[822] I don't understand that.

[823] Maybe they're getting stuff that's like weird.

[824] It's probably got pot.

[825] I think that too.

[826] I think some of the recipes, like I've definitely gotten edibles that were duds and you have too.

[827] It's just like, oh, I think they miss something.

[828] You know, it's still sort of like a primitive market.

[829] So I think a lot of the companies, and you see some of them like come in and come out just like boom, boom, boom, like new restaurants didn't make it.

[830] I think there's definitely a search for more reliable product in that regard.

[831] But, and we're also so different.

[832] Like, I'm, you know, you react to weed so differently.

[833] I'm terrible as weed.

[834] Yeah, you blow my mind.

[835] I feel like last time we talked, you told me not to blow up your spine.

[836] but at one point you took a thousand milligrams is that true yeah yeah i've done that a couple of times fucking insane if i take 10 milligrams i'm fucked yeah but i can't hang with joey dyes joey dyes will take a thousand and then they'll eat 250 more in fronty and laugh at you that's same one told you that story when we were at coachella and i accidentally took a 25 milligram jolly rancher because it was a hard candy you don't just bite it in half and my friends were like you took the whole thing and i was like yeah and i lost my mind watching radio head this is years ago And coincidentally, ran into Gary Clark Jr. And I was like, I was like, Gary, you gotta help me. And I was like, help me find Ben.

[837] And like, I was like just losing my mind.

[838] And then I found Ben, but I told you that story, Joe.

[839] And you were like, fuck that.

[840] I'd take 25 milligrams and go to the movies.

[841] And I was like, okay, well, you are very tough.

[842] Well, this is the point.

[843] But I am not.

[844] There's no consistency.

[845] Like, you get your 25 milligram.

[846] And it's also a matter of how much you take and how often you take it.

[847] Yeah.

[848] I definitely didn't say it like that.

[849] No, you're so cool.

[850] No, you're so...

[851] Check the tape.

[852] Check the tape.

[853] No, you're a total gentleman about it.

[854] People do like to brag about how much they could take, me included.

[855] I can't.

[856] I'd be like, bitch, I'll take that whole can.

[857] No, you won't.

[858] Fuck, yeah, I will.

[859] Let's go on a journey.

[860] Let's go on a journey, pussy.

[861] Joey Diaz is a horrible person, though.

[862] Joey will take these chibichu's, and he'll take the ones that have 500 milligrams.

[863] No, no, no. And they'll swap the package for one that has 75 milligrams.

[864] Oh, no. Give it to somebody.

[865] He doesn't give a fuck.

[866] And he'll laugh because he knows you're going to live.

[867] That's so funny.

[868] Everybody lives.

[869] Everybody lives.

[870] We had a friend who said he ate, he ate an edible and he slept for 24 hours.

[871] I'm not going to say who.

[872] We had a friend, right?

[873] I don't remember what you're talking about.

[874] Because I'm so high.

[875] You know who I'm talking about.

[876] No, I don't, but it's all right.

[877] Okay, well, a friend of yours had never had weed before, and someone gave him an edible, and he slept for like 24 hours and woke up like an entire day later.

[878] That totally happens.

[879] If you don't do it all the time, if you're not used to it, yeah.

[880] I felt more high on edibles than I have, like, taking mushrooms.

[881] For sure.

[882] But I didn't take that many mushrooms.

[883] But it's a very intense psychoactive experience when you take an edible.

[884] It is.

[885] I've said this so many times.

[886] I apologize in advance.

[887] But your body produces something called 11 hydroxy.

[888] metabolites process when THC is processed by your liver.

[889] It's five times more psychoactive than THC.

[890] It's way different drug.

[891] And it's not psychoactive when you smoke it.

[892] So like when you're smoking pot, your body's not producing the 11 hydroxy metabolite.

[893] When you process it with your liver, your body produces this intense psychedelic drug.

[894] Like you can have, when you eat weed and then close your eyes, you have some of the craziest fucking visuals that match up there.

[895] As long as you have enough, they go right up to everything.

[896] They go right up to mushrooms.

[897] They go, you can have like these mini DMT trips if you...

[898] Oh, I smoked DMT with weed once.

[899] It was insane.

[900] How about that?

[901] It changed my life.

[902] When did you do this?

[903] Did it really?

[904] This was a couple years ago.

[905] And the good friend of mine, and I took one hit, and it was like zero to 100.

[906] It was just like you exhaled and then you just take off.

[907] And, I mean, I'd never smoked DMT before, and I'm very sensitive to weed.

[908] So I was high for, like, two, three hours.

[909] I was so, and at one point, I was watching, we were sitting on a balcony and I was watching the street, and it flipped into, like, negative, like a photograph, like the colors changed.

[910] Wait, man, this is like, you smoke the DMT, and how many minutes later is this happening?

[911] This, this was in about 10 minutes.

[912] Okay, so that was when it was most intense, yeah.

[913] So you kept your eyes open.

[914] Oh, yeah.

[915] Should I close my eyes?

[916] Oh, yeah.

[917] Oh, tell me how to do it.

[918] I don't know.

[919] It sounds like you took a small dose.

[920] If you took one hit.

[921] No, I took a couple hits.

[922] But my first hit, it was just like, literally like, it was like Star Wars when it just goes into warp speed.

[923] Yeah.

[924] You're like, shooh.

[925] Like, it was insane.

[926] D &T has got a weird threshold thing that happens.

[927] And it's like three hits in.

[928] What happened to me?

[929] There's something about three hits in is when reality dissolves.

[930] For most people, that's what they say, three hits.

[931] Okay.

[932] And if you took like one or two, you get crazy visuals, you get weird, freaky stuff.

[933] Oh, yeah.

[934] But you don't go to the alien dimension.

[935] I saw, no, yes, I did.

[936] You did.

[937] I totally did.

[938] So you took enough.

[939] So did you close your eyes while you were there, or did you have them open?

[940] Well, it was nighttime, so I could see the stars.

[941] Wow.

[942] And at one point, I went completely deaf.

[943] All the sounds just went shh.

[944] And I was watching a moving street, and I couldn't hear anything.

[945] It was intense.

[946] How high up were you?

[947] Just a couple stories.

[948] Were you worried about freaking out and trying to fly?

[949] No, no, no, no. I was on the ride.

[950] Wait, tell me more.

[951] That's the big fear, right?

[952] The big fear is like someone taking a psychedelic.

[953] They're on a balcony.

[954] Like Bill Hicks used to have a bit about that.

[955] Okay.

[956] Young man on acid, thought he could fly, you know, leapt tragically to his death.

[957] Oh, that's scary.

[958] He goes, what a dick.

[959] Still here.

[960] He goes, if you thought he could fly, why didn't he take off from the ground first?

[961] He goes, we just lost a moron That's awful Oh boy It was great And then he had a positive drug story Yeah which you never do here Yeah It is interesting You know I don't like to say that the news is fake Because it's not fake It's like they're doing the best they can They vet themselves the best they can And they definitely fuck up And definitely people get ambitious But it is kind of interesting that they only tell you, like, sanctioned things.

[962] Like, you're never going to see, like, a whole Fox News article on the benefits of psychedelic drugs and how it could change your consciousness and how Suzanne smoked pot with Duncan Trussell with DMT laced in it.

[963] It was not Duncan Drussel.

[964] But it could be, you know what I'm saying.

[965] I did take mushrooms with Duncan once, though.

[966] I'm sure.

[967] It was amazing.

[968] You haven't.

[969] You haven't lived.

[970] It was, like, the first time I'd ever, like, really been high on mushrooms.

[971] Oh, yeah?

[972] Yeah.

[973] I saw my grandfather Oh, that's intense Yeah, we should talk about that another time I saw my grandfather once on weed I ate an edible and then had a dream And the dream was really intense And I was talking to my grandfather It was really weird Like I hadn't seen him in forever You know, he died when I was I was in my 20s And Did it feel real?

[974] Do you guys spend a lot of time together Yeah, we did.

[975] Yeah, he was, he used to take me fishing and stuff like that.

[976] He was a really nice guy.

[977] And it just took care of my grandmother for the last, like, 12 years of her life.

[978] She had a stroke, and then he had to take care of her for a long time.

[979] She had an aneurysm.

[980] Oh, my God.

[981] Yeah, and I lived with them at that time because I'd moved from Boston to New York.

[982] I didn't have a place to stay.

[983] So I live with my grandfather and my grandmother in New Jersey.

[984] and it was just a super dark time.

[985] How old we?

[986] Oh, 24?

[987] Somewhere around then.

[988] And it made me realize, like, really intensely that this life does not last.

[989] Like, and then you have to really be appreciative of health and your ability to move and your ability to experience things.

[990] And it just seems so, it seems like such a given.

[991] and because it's such a given and we get wrapped up with so many different things it's super easy to lose touch with that to be happy like I was talking to a really good friend of mine who's going through a divorce and he started getting all bummed out about it and this and that and I was like look man you are so lucky you're happy you're healthy you're alive you have a bunch of great friends like you're going to be fine like this is all going to be fine like this is like a little journey you're going to go through it's all in like how you look at it how you approach this journey how you're going to come out of it on the other end but being a young guy and living with my grandmother when she was dying and my grandfather when he had take care of her and seeing the both of them like struggle it was intense well can i ask you a question sure when you feel like you when you had this psychedelic experience where you saw your grandfather like does that to you is that like a real experience of him being somewhere else and communicating with you or it's probably just an ego trip it's probably just me thinking that I can recreate my memory.

[992] But it was what was interesting about is the memories were so intense.

[993] They were so realistic.

[994] They were like my grandfather.

[995] Like he used to talk and like he used to behave.

[996] He was always a very, very gentle man, a very gentle guy with a very easy way about him.

[997] Like he was a really interesting guy.

[998] And he was like that in the dream.

[999] He was that guy in the dream.

[1000] It makes sense too if you go through a really impactful time.

[1001] It just digs those grooves deep in your brain.

[1002] Yeah, I'm sure.

[1003] I'm sure.

[1004] That's wild.

[1005] And I had it once with Phil Hartman, too.

[1006] It was super intense.

[1007] The Phil Hartman woman was super intense.

[1008] It was years after he died, like maybe more than 10.

[1009] And in the dream, he was sitting in a lawn chair, and somehow or another, he was telling me what life was like after his wife had killed himself or killed.

[1010] him and then killed herself it was really intense and I was like somehow another I was talking to him from this like next stage of existence but the next stage of existence it wasn't heaven and it wasn't the DMT dimension it was like a picnic it was like there was a lawn and it was like a bunch of people hanging out and he had a he was just laughing and joking around and being jovial about things and he was just talking about oh yeah we talked about that like him and the wife after she shot of and killed him.

[1011] He was like joking around in my dream.

[1012] That's incredible.

[1013] Yeah, we had to have a conversation about that.

[1014] Wow.

[1015] You know, it was like, wow.

[1016] It was so crazy.

[1017] It was so intense because it was so real, and it was him.

[1018] And he fell backwards in his chair, like laughing, like fell backwards in his chair, almost like a prat fall.

[1019] And then he was gone.

[1020] And then the dream was gone.

[1021] And then it just, it all went away, and I woke up, because it was so intense, I woke up.

[1022] And I was like, whoa, that really felt like I was talking to Phil.

[1023] Like it didn't feel like just a memory.

[1024] It really felt like I was talking to Phil.

[1025] But again, what is that?

[1026] Is that an ego trip?

[1027] Is that your imagination?

[1028] Is that your memory?

[1029] Do you?

[1030] Are you all in?

[1031] I'm in.

[1032] I'm in.

[1033] I'm in because I've had I've had experience.

[1034] No, I mean, I think there's a lot of bullshit with, you need to be skeptical from the external people that try to tell you stuff.

[1035] But I've definitely had people help me understand what all that shit means when I've had dreams like that with my deceased relatives and they told me things and then they happened and yeah it could be your ego but I like I don't think that makes it less real though if it's your ego or your mind you know creating a scenario with a loved one or whatever that's I don't think that's less real than the idea of this spirit reimbodying you know I don't know some sort of physical form or whatever I think it's both they're both kind of valid and it's it's energy I think it's an exchange of energy and I we've definitely been in places where we felt like not alone you know we and we weren't high when we were you know you have those moments where like your instincts and your intuition are like aware of external things that you can't see but you can feel and maybe maybe you can see them I've seen a ghost one can I just address what you just said though but there is a difference right there is difference because one of them is your imagination and one of them is you talking to a ghost there's a ghost there's a difference there's a difference because one of them is you're talking to a ghost there's a ghost there.

[1036] there's a huge difference because one of them it means ghosts are real and the other one it just means your imagination is real which you're absolutely 100 % aware of right so we know people have ridiculous imaginations they dream and imagine things constantly so there is a big difference sure two of them because one of them one of them gives you a a view into a mystical world that doesn't doesn't in the eyes of science it doesn't seem to make sense right it doesn't seem to want to exist if there's another world where people can come back from the dead and talk to you and have conversations with you but one of the arguments that i've always used with psychedelic drugs is that if you feel like in a in a psychedelic experience you went to heaven and had a conversation with god or you went to another dimension and talk to the infinite wisdom that controls the the the cells of the universe if you did do that or if you took the drugs and felt like you did that it's the same experience like that's the difference it's like i don't know if god's real and i don't know what the fuck happens when he takes psychedelic drugs but god damn it feels similar like it there's there's moments where you you have intense psychedelic trips where you really do believe you're in the presence of like this pure wisdom and pure love that sees you in a way that is undeniable i think it's a gateway i don't know i think sometimes it's your ego sometimes it's some weird shit in your brain sometimes i think it's real i think it's very complicated it is complicated but my point is they're the same experience.

[1037] If you're talking to God or if you're talking to your imagination that creates this God, it's for that brief moment in those 15 minutes, it's the same experience.

[1038] I don't know if that's enough, but that's something.

[1039] Like, I don't know, like, your old time on Earth is just time, right?

[1040] Your time on Earth is just, you have a limited, finite amount.

[1041] You got 100 years if you're fucking super lucky, you got good genes, and that's a wrap, right?

[1042] So this is, we have this little time thing.

[1043] But during those 15 minutes, which is just, you're just, you're just, This is a small amount of time, but the whole life's small.

[1044] During those 15 minutes, you are absolutely experiencing something divine.

[1045] Now, is that in your imagination?

[1046] Is that you finding some portal to another dimension?

[1047] Is that the reason why your brain produces these chemicals in the first place is because we transition during the time of death into this new realm?

[1048] Is that it?

[1049] But if your concept of what divinity is includes all of that stuff, it gets to be both, right?

[1050] we sure but I mean like there's a real problem with defining something that you just can't define like the whole problem with psychedelic trips I don't know like for you guys feel this way for me it's always like whenever I tell somebody about I'm like like why even use words like the words like the words don't work right they're not enough yeah not enough you could scramble them together and say them perfect and scream when you use the words too it can almost like demean the experience like diminish speaking sorry well that's when we're We're kind of pushing against the limits of language.

[1051] Yeah.

[1052] You know, and that's why I think there's such a wide array of people's theories and beliefs and thoughts, and they're all valid because we don't have, there's no agreed upon language to say, okay, this is how we all feel and this is how we're doing it.

[1053] Right.

[1054] You know, it's similar, it's just, I always go back to music with this stuff, but there's a similar pathway and trend in music where people are constantly redefining the language of it.

[1055] And, you know, there's a kind of a mainstream.

[1056] openness to that or there isn't.

[1057] But the idea, the point is the language is dynamic, you know, and it goes on to continuously try and express something that's kind of inexpressible.

[1058] Yeah.

[1059] And that's why it acts as a magnet for people's thought, because they say, okay, this is kind of our pathway of experimentation to understand these phenomena.

[1060] Well, it's like mainstreams, like the fast food of music a little bit, and then there's some more obscure, like, restaurants off the beaten path that you've never tasted anything and they're developing the vocabulary that most people like that fucking tastes gross i'm not eating a cricket you know what i mean but but in 50 years you know that that vocabulary kind of seeps its way in if it's if it's has value i always felt like i mean you guys are the musicians but i always felt like what music sort of is is almost like a vessel that the artist fills with emotion and with like passion and it's almost like doesn't even matter what the words are sometimes sometimes it does because those words and the feeling behind them enhance the song but like voodoo child perfect example like there's like a lot of the lyrics aren't particularly profound like the nata was born you say the moon turned to i don't even know the lyrics i just know the feeling of the song like i just feel the song yeah it's just about being a bad motherfucker i was i was born a bad motherfucker bitch i mean it's basically he was he was who can argue that jenny staring me in the eyes they say the moon turned to fire right at on the night I was born I mean that's not profound right but when you hear him say it with that guitar behind it with those emotions it carries that song it's like yeah what's profound is is the it's part of a lineage you know what I mean that's a proclamation and that's part of blues music and that's part of African music and that's part of all this stuff you're just like I'm a fucking man or woman or whatever I'm a human boom here it is so I think yeah but it's more than that with him what he's saying is he's a voodoo child I mean He's basically claiming some Robert Johnson type shit.

[1061] The night I was born, the moon turned a fire red, you know?

[1062] Yeah.

[1063] Did he write that song?

[1064] Are we certain?

[1065] Who voodoo -tap?

[1066] I don't know.

[1067] Who wrote it?

[1068] Okay, well, because he didn't write, like, all along the watch hour, right?

[1069] That's Bob Dylan.

[1070] Yeah.

[1071] But this, you know, because he, his grandmother was a Native American, so he has all this, like.

[1072] There's two versions, too.

[1073] There's one version that's like the real bluesy version of voodoo.

[1074] You know, there's the voodoo child's slight return, and there's that other version, which is, like, much more acoustic or much more guitar -driven.

[1075] Yeah, man. Like, he, like, guitar sounds is a perfect example.

[1076] Like, Gary Clark Jr. is a perfect example.

[1077] Like, when he came and played with you guys on stage, and I saw you guys downtown a few months back, dude, when he gets on stage, his sound is Gary Clark, Jr. Right?

[1078] You know what I'm saying?

[1079] Like you guys were singing Midnight Rider, which was fucking amazing.

[1080] Didn't he have pedals with him or did he just plug in?

[1081] No, yeah, he just took my guitar and he's playing it straight in.

[1082] Dude.

[1083] But that sound is like a sound that you instantly, like Steve Ray Vaughn had it, Hendrix, like it's a sound you instantly recognize like one of his riffs.

[1084] Crazy.

[1085] How does someone do that?

[1086] Right?

[1087] Because it's kind of what we're talking about as far as vocabulary too.

[1088] Right.

[1089] You know, you say, and maybe this happens in fighting.

[1090] I imagine it does.

[1091] You know, people have techniques or whatever that they slowly turn into their own thing.

[1092] Oh, sure.

[1093] Yeah.

[1094] And that's what makes them...

[1095] Well, and they're derivative of a lot of things, of a lot of different techniques.

[1096] So then you kind of have this like...

[1097] Yeah.

[1098] At least for music, I'll speak for myself.

[1099] I just feel like I have this like garble of stuff that just...

[1100] When people are like, how would you describe your sound?

[1101] It's so awkward because you're not like, I sound just like that.

[1102] Yeah.

[1103] You know, there's just such...

[1104] Yeah.

[1105] Really, reet, reet, reet, reet, reet, reet, and...

[1106] Yeah, you can't make, what do you sound like?

[1107] I can't do this.

[1108] I got to leave.

[1109] Don't ask me that question.

[1110] What kind of, what kind of comedy are you, Joe Rogan?

[1111] I did a radio show last week where a guy asked me to make him laugh.

[1112] Oh, fuck that.

[1113] What did you do, Joe, really?

[1114] I said, well, that's not going to happen.

[1115] Did you tickle him?

[1116] Let's hear you sing.

[1117] And it's, I mean, you just, I don't know.

[1118] It's a funny feeling.

[1119] Well, it's humbling.

[1120] It's super humbling because it's like sometimes we've.

[1121] Why is it humbling?

[1122] You're talking to a twat.

[1123] Well, no, you're talking to someone who doesn't understand.

[1124] Well, they're being a twat.

[1125] And sure, but like, I don't know.

[1126] I feel like the need to like even connect with the twats sometimes and just say, hey, hey, yeah, I'll sing for you.

[1127] If you don't like it, that's fine.

[1128] I'll sing for you.

[1129] That's fine.

[1130] I'm not above that.

[1131] Connected to the twots is deep That was my chair I swear to God You always feel the need to recreate that cell Let me just move it again like that Let everybody know I would tell you Yeah Just sneak over us And we're back Yeah no that That's weird There's no need for somebody to ask that No Question well you know It's just lazy entertaining It's also that job of being Like the radio host is a tough fucking job.

[1132] You get three minutes to talk to someone you never talked to you before.

[1133] And maybe you're not so good at it.

[1134] And DJs on radio stations nowadays, they're not even really DJs anymore.

[1135] They don't get to pick the fucking songs.

[1136] Who the fuck lets you pick the songs?

[1137] One dude, fuck that.

[1138] Some of them do.

[1139] There's some big daddies out there.

[1140] But not in the, like when it comes to commercial radio.

[1141] How many?

[1142] Well, there's like 10 stations across the nation that are still public radio.

[1143] Kevin and Bean, KCRW.

[1144] Like, doesn't Jason Bentley, like, pick his shit?

[1145] Yeah, but that's a unique thing.

[1146] Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.

[1147] But that's what I'm saying.

[1148] Like, there's still some people that are holding court.

[1149] It's like Game of Thrones.

[1150] Whoa.

[1151] Just knocking bitches out.

[1152] But I think it has to be small stations where not a lot of people are paying attention.

[1153] Yeah, exactly, because the big ones, they need the money that's going to dictate the playlist.

[1154] But it doesn't mean you still can't, if that part of your job is the DJ is even taken away, then what is your fucking job?

[1155] To be interesting on the air.

[1156] They can't do that.

[1157] Yeah.

[1158] Do you, do you know how they get ratings?

[1159] This is the most hilarious thing, or they did, at least until recently.

[1160] They still do the Arbitron shit.

[1161] Is that how they do the radio ratings?

[1162] The way they do it is they hand out books, and they ask people to fill out the books.

[1163] Tell us what you were listening to and when you were listening to it.

[1164] So what do you get?

[1165] You get the opinion of assholes that are willing to fill out those fucking books.

[1166] Who's going to fill out that book?

[1167] They're going to give you that book, and you go, what?

[1168] I got shit to do.

[1169] I'm not filling out this fucking radio book.

[1170] Wait, but isn't it?

[1171] Sorry.

[1172] No, you.

[1173] It's like, so our first record had a single called Little Toy Gun.

[1174] Yeah, great song.

[1175] I love that.

[1176] They were testing that.

[1177] I guess maybe it's different now.

[1178] I don't know.

[1179] They were calling people like potential listeners, kind of like a Nielsen vibe, a little, and they would play them a bunch of songs and be like, whoa, do you like it?

[1180] Like literally over the phone, you'd hear like 20 seconds of a song, and you give us a thumbs up or thumbs down.

[1181] And that's how you're getting the ratings.

[1182] That's what defines whether our song was successful.

[1183] It's so different now, though.

[1184] There's like, now you've got internet radio that's free, so people don't have to pay for it.

[1185] They don't have to call in.

[1186] They just have to listen, and that is monitored through, you know, you can measure that through Spotify or Pandora or Apple Music.

[1187] Like, I have a single out right now that came out a month ago, and it's doing really well.

[1188] It's doing really well.

[1189] But it's called, what's it?

[1190] It's called Ghost in My Bed.

[1191] And it's doing better than I thought it would.

[1192] I had no idea that it would be, like, jumping from playlist to playlist.

[1193] I um this is our you know we're doing solo projects this here know how much of a fucking bad but I I looked at I it came out June 1st I had like a couple hundred followers on Spotify and like that week I got like 10 ,000 and then like like the other week it was at like 37 ,000 followers I it blew my mind and I I call I have a PR team that's you have a team I have a team we got a team I got a team, yeah, because I want to own my music, so I hired a publicist, a distributor, and you get your manufacturing, and that's really all you need is doing the fucking work.

[1194] Isn't that crazy to own your own shit?

[1195] You've got to hire a bunch of people.

[1196] Well, because record companies make you think that you need them and you don't.

[1197] Some of them are great.

[1198] What do they do now?

[1199] What's a record company good for today?

[1200] It depends.

[1201] If they're actually good at their job, they're good at fucking selling music.

[1202] but that's very rare and that's hard to do for everybody it's a it's a combination though because obviously like if the music's not good enough it's not going to work and if it is great but there's there's so many different um you know it's a labyrinth of oh no we're gonna lose them here we go here we go ben's gonna be all smiles play cool you look great he's gonna be fine you're so funny when you spoke weak did you just say that funny as in like fun yeah like the word fun is in the word wait is this a test i'm just saying we have it now, it's on the internet, you said it.

[1203] Does she say you're not funny?

[1204] Is that what skills on?

[1205] No, we have a lot of fights when Ben gets stoned.

[1206] But I also love you and want you to be happy.

[1207] That means a lot to me. You know this is live, right?

[1208] Yeah, sure do.

[1209] And Ben's mom might listen to it one day.

[1210] Who know?

[1211] No, no. You guys are going deep with this.

[1212] No, but in terms of the record companies and releasing music, they have...

[1213] I mean, every artist is different.

[1214] Every approach is different.

[1215] But I think what's interesting is their jobs are becoming more and more obsolete because of the evolution of the industry.

[1216] But don't they try to take a piece of your music sales, your concert sales, they try to take a piece of it.

[1217] It depends on the deal.

[1218] But that's really common, right, to take a piece of your concert sales, which it seems kind of crazy, the live music.

[1219] It depends on your position, your situation.

[1220] Who was it that we had in?

[1221] What musician was, oh, Everlast was explaining it?

[1222] Was he explaining it?

[1223] Shirley was it Everlast?

[1224] No, Shirley from garbage.

[1225] Had a cool.

[1226] I listened to that, and it was incredible, and she had a lot of really interesting points.

[1227] How cool is she?

[1228] So cool.

[1229] She might be, like, one of the coolest people I've ever heard of you.

[1230] They're going to be here soon.

[1231] Garbage and, uh, is it hole?

[1232] What?

[1233] Oh, Jesus.

[1234] Did you ever see that?

[1235] Hole at the bowl?

[1236] The documentary that said that Courtney Love killed Kirk Cobain.

[1237] Yeah.

[1238] I started to watch it with my mom and dad.

[1239] It felt dirty for watch that.

[1240] You feel like those ads.

[1241] It was like that.

[1242] There was a journals.

[1243] They put out Kirk Cobain's journals when I was like a teen.

[1244] And I was with my parents and I was like, I bought the book because I was such a huge fan.

[1245] And I felt like shit.

[1246] I was like, I should not be doing this.

[1247] I don't want to read this to the journals.

[1248] That dude changed the word.

[1249] That was another one.

[1250] Like, that guy had a sound.

[1251] There was something going on, you know, when the lights out, it's less dangerous.

[1252] I mean, come on, man. It's not the words.

[1253] I mean, there's something to the words, but it's the way he's expressing those words.

[1254] Pick her, Joe.

[1255] So what's interesting about the icons of the decades, you know, you get.

[1256] the 60s like come okay so the 50s were like everything's perfect we have the cleanest music and every we have a cookie cutter home and this is the wife and this is the husband and this was like the generation after world war two of like everything's fine we're cool we just came back from war we're going to make a lot of babies right okay the 50s and there's this like total disillusionment of well no it was more survival I think but then the 60s are like people trying to feel more, and that was when psychedelics were coming in.

[1257] But the 50s was Elvis and all that stuff that was upending all those things.

[1258] But he was pioneering that, though.

[1259] Right.

[1260] That was late 50s, right?

[1261] And then going into the 60s of people, like there's this dichotomy of like, you know, the people kind of experiencing other areas of life that aren't this like sanitized version of society.

[1262] And blossoming more into the 70s.

[1263] Of just like harder rock, you know, think, you know, sonically speaking, you know, you're going into Zeppelin and Pink Floyd.

[1264] Alice Cooper.

[1265] I can't, the 80s are interesting.

[1266] The glam of the 80s, I can't really help me out with the significance of like what that meant to people.

[1267] I think it was, it kind of went back to a little more of this like pristine version of people in society, I feel like.

[1268] Well, let me give you the clean version.

[1269] of what a lot of people believe happened.

[1270] Okay.

[1271] Drugs became illegal.

[1272] The 1970 sweeping drug legislations act, a Schedule I act from Richard Nixon, as soon as it became illegal to possess anything, whether it's marijuana, which was illegal for a long time, mushrooms.

[1273] It was really hard to do drugs.

[1274] And you just got this massive drop -off in the creativity of music in the 80s.

[1275] Well, and then the grunge was the anger that was, you know, the product of that disillusionment.

[1276] Well, they grew up with Reagan on TV.

[1277] Yeah, that's fucking crazy.

[1278] They didn't want plastic.

[1279] They just wanted everything to be like flannel and it wanted to rain every day.

[1280] People needed that truth.

[1281] They needed that reality and that like expression of what they were.

[1282] I don't, I think we need so many different things.

[1283] It's love.

[1284] We always need love.

[1285] We always need love.

[1286] But I think right now we're so complicated and in our individual rights, but all, you know, I don't know.

[1287] people need so many different things now you can't really say that it's i mean like i mean i'm saying like what i'm not saying you can't really say that i'm saying like it's so hard to say people need love or people need this or people need education and people need because it's you can't really say that there's any one group of people right there's so many groups of people but i do think people need to get pulled out of the um just the spiraling of of the of the of the phones and the stuff and the social media and I think the only things that get them out of that are real inspiration and I think real inspiration has uh is the spectrum of that is very wide whether it's just a folk song or it's like you're at a club and it's got that whole rhythm of electronic music and you're just with a group of people and you're having this like tribal collective thing cool I think that that's why I feel like you ask what people need I don't know everyone needs something different yeah no you're totally right there and whatever that is i think it just needs to inspire them well just we just need to you know as a group recognize that we're all so fucking different and we got to stop trying to fit everybody into these little packages well that's like the pronouns of um oh god uh your friend from canada he was just on the podcast jordan peterson yes yeah very interesting stuff yeah very interesting he's a fascinating guy yes well you know he's dealing with a lot of like really weird political correct weirdness this guy's a very thoughtful guy very well -spoken guy but people want you to follow their guidelines for how you should think and communicate and what you should accept and what you should argue against or not argue against and um it becomes this weird sort of uh control game that goes on and that's what's happening with a lot of people in this in this nation this fine nation right now people are realizing that they have control over people.

[1288] So they're exerting that control.

[1289] Almost the same way a person in power does.

[1290] Like one of the things Abraham Lincoln said that was really brilliant, he said most men can overcome adversity.

[1291] I'm paraphrasing.

[1292] He said most men can overcome adversity.

[1293] If you really want to test a man, give him success.

[1294] Right.

[1295] Which I thought was really fascinating.

[1296] You know, it's like for a lot of people like that are in big positions of power, like the president of the United States, for a perfect example.

[1297] Like the idea of him getting through.

[1298] that and not falling apart is way like you realize like what a bad motherfucker Obama was holy shit like people have zero idea at how good Obama's composure was to get through that entire eight years in the White House without one like really gross misstep socially right yeah you didn't have one well you that's that's I think there's a lot of people that would probably disagree with that and I wouldn't agree with them but that's I think that kind of highlights some of the ideological thing though they would think that you know there was one thing that he said he was joking around that White House press correspondence dinner about the Jonas Brothers and about he has two words for them I don't remember that it was something about drones what's the word what kind of drones what's the big name for the drone there's like a name another name for the drone there's like a type of drone isn't there R2D2 didn't he say that to them to the Jonas brothers?

[1299] I don't.

[1300] Yeah, he's got like a name.

[1301] There's a name for one of the drones.

[1302] It's one of the things that he said.

[1303] And it was like, come on, man. You've killed like 84 % civilians with drones or the United States has.

[1304] Like to say, to joke around about a drone with someone who wants to date your daughter.

[1305] Come on, man. Like, what was the...

[1306] Oh, wow, look how young he looks.

[1307] Oh, Predator drones.

[1308] They'd send a predator after them if they were fucking around.

[1309] Look at him.

[1310] So young.

[1311] Sasha and Malia are huge fans.

[1312] 2010.

[1313] But boys don't get any ideas.

[1314] I have two words for you.

[1315] Predator drones.

[1316] You'll never see it coming.

[1317] He's joking around about killing people.

[1318] Do you know how many people lost their children to predator drones while he was in office?

[1319] A lot.

[1320] Wow.

[1321] A lot.

[1322] Those things, they take, look, the people that are trying to kill those terrorists out there and the ISIS members and all the different people that are doing horrible things like blowing up Ariana Grande concerts and all that kind of shit.

[1323] I mean, the people that are trying to stop those people have an insanely difficult job.

[1324] Don't get me wrong.

[1325] But when you're shooting missiles out of robots and you're killing mostly innocent people it's not like close.

[1326] It's not like half and half.

[1327] Like they kill half bad guys, half good guys.

[1328] No, they kill mostly good people.

[1329] But it kind of speaks Oh, sorry.

[1330] It's okay.

[1331] It speaks more to the position of the president as being a tough fucking job.

[1332] Well, and the face of it.

[1333] You can't be a comedian.

[1334] And a comedian can say whatever the fuck, and it's fine because you're a comedian or whatever.

[1335] I would have had better delivery than that.

[1336] But sure, I know.

[1337] Of course.

[1338] I'm imagining it right now.

[1339] See it coming?

[1340] A mile away.

[1341] I got two words for you.

[1342] Oh, they're going to be funny words.

[1343] You know, it's just joking around about something that's, it's dark.

[1344] You know, it's like, you'll never see.

[1345] it coming.

[1346] Ha, ha, ha.

[1347] Like a lot of those people that died, thousands.

[1348] That's kind of fucked up.

[1349] If you were living in a country where Obama was the guy who made the call and the missiles came from the drones and killed your dad and you have to watch him joke around about shooting missiles at some kids who want to fuck your pretty daughters.

[1350] Whoa.

[1351] You know, that's, we don't look at it that way because we're over here.

[1352] But how can we?

[1353] Like, how can you process that level of I don't know variety that's a shitty word for it but like there's so much shit going on this is why all the social media is happening because along with being a distraction and a problem it's also helping us cope with the degree of the world you know what I mean there's so many fucking people how how could you ever be sensitive to the entire situation while being an authentic person does that make sense yeah but I think this is what we were talking about earlier of like trying to, I mean, at the fucking smallest level of, like, learn how to apologize, but learn how to be different from each other and also work together and know that, like, we have different speeds and different beliefs and, you know, have compassion.

[1354] And I think that's where it's really crazy to have so much exposure to the global events and become desensitized to them because there's so much stuff that eventually, like, You can't compute.

[1355] You can't process it.

[1356] But it doesn't, I mean, obviously there's no excuse for making jokes about drones and killing people.

[1357] Well, he probably didn't realize it.

[1358] He had to make some jokes and somebody wrote that for him.

[1359] But no, you're totally right.

[1360] There's too much information.

[1361] You're getting news from 7 billion people.

[1362] And we're putting it on one man when he is not just one man, but he is a group of people working together.

[1363] But he has to speak for everyone.

[1364] And so does Trump.

[1365] And so does whoever is president.

[1366] And that's what's really interesting is that I think what has happened now with the election of Trump is that people are becoming so much more aware that there's an entire cabinet and Congress and the people that we elect that we choose are going to be part of that entire team.

[1367] And it's really it's it's focusing people on politics in a way it never has before.

[1368] Right.

[1369] That's a good thing.

[1370] Yeah, it is.

[1371] You get to see corruption in a weird way, like a real transparent way.

[1372] But speaking of corruption, and I talked to you about this guy about represent us and it's this organization that I went to this meeting and was really informed for the first time.

[1373] I'd never really understood how people in Congress kind of came to be these, you know, runners in these elections, whereas it costs $40 ,000 to $60 ,000 a day to run for Congress.

[1374] That's insane.

[1375] And that is legal.

[1376] That's not illegal.

[1377] That's so crazy.

[1378] And Josh Silver, I talked to you about him a little bit, started this organization, and they're working on anti -corruption bills so that anybody can run.

[1379] You know, an incredibly over -accomplished, you know, overqualified person from, say, Columbia or Harvard or wherever in the world or in the states who we elected.

[1380] Whereas these people that cost that much money to run, they're controlled by the Koch brothers and all the major oil industries.

[1381] What do they spend the money on if it caused that much a day?

[1382] That's just the game.

[1383] That's just like...

[1384] Transportation, advertisement, promotion, you know, staff, all this shit.

[1385] If you don't play that game.

[1386] But here's the thing, you can qualify.

[1387] Like, if you ran for Senate or something, you wouldn't be spending $60 ,000 a day.

[1388] You know what I mean?

[1389] Like, that's what's interesting, right?

[1390] I mean, because you have a platform.

[1391] already and people have platforms in the world that's Donald Trump but you know that when you have a platform you're running for something like stanhope was running for president for a while we had a friend that ran for president what he found while he was running for president is that he couldn't do stand -up shows anymore because if he was going to do something on stage he would have if it was like a public forum um where people were coming to see him he would have to allot time for his opponents right and I was like what and he's like yeah he goes it's It's a crazy scam.

[1392] It's like you can't.

[1393] Rules of the game.

[1394] Yeah.

[1395] There's a lot of like weird, freaky old school rules back when people would stand on a soapbox and scream out to a large group of people.

[1396] Those rules still apply.

[1397] Crazy.

[1398] But the thing is you can do, you can still, if you have 10 million people being like, that's a stupid rule or however many it takes, it'll change.

[1399] Maybe, but look, it's still federally illegal to smoke marijuana.

[1400] There's no reason why.

[1401] We just smoke marijuana.

[1402] We did, but it's state legal.

[1403] but federally it's still illegal so it's not as simple as 10 million people can say they don't know it anymore you're totally right and that's the same thing what's going to go on with our political system it's like yeah it needs an overhaul and yeah it needs to be changed needs to be updated for the internet in the 2017 world that we live in and we need to figure out a better way to do it we don't need the same sort of representative government that we always needed when you had to take a message from a fucking horse you know and travel the thing is it's like if it's like if If you want that to change from the ground up, you're asking the people that are currently in office to bet against themselves to say, hey, let's make it illegal.

[1404] You're asking them to behave as citizens is what you're asking.

[1405] You're asking them to stop thinking that they're better or different than us.

[1406] And that's where it becomes unfathomable.

[1407] Well, they have to.

[1408] They have to.

[1409] Just like everybody else has to.

[1410] We all have to realize that we're all the same thing.

[1411] And there's no kings anymore.

[1412] And I mean, Edward Snowden tweeted this the other day.

[1413] that people couldn't, at one point in time, couldn't imagine the idea that one day there'd be no kings.

[1414] And they're going to say that the same thing about presidents one day.

[1415] And it's for sure going to happen.

[1416] The presidents or whoever runs for Congress or senator, they have to come to an understanding that they are no different than us.

[1417] And just because they're in positions of power.

[1418] They're not different.

[1419] We're all just people.

[1420] And that if you have extra power over people and you utilize it, you should be ashamed of yourself.

[1421] You should feel horrible.

[1422] Did you guys hear what Chris Christie did?

[1423] beach thing he closed down the beaches in new jersey and then vacationed on the beaches with his family they closed him down due to budget he should have put a shirt on but he did have a shirt on he had a shirt is that what that was but he got caught but he got caught lying they asked him did you get any son he said no i didn't get any son then the pictures came out and he's like they said oh mr christie had a baseball hat on so he didn't get any son like no that's not a loophole you're lying you're still in the sun you're not in a house right if you're not in a house you're getting son you fucking asshole play on words bullshit that's happening in the media where it's like people are you know you don't they just you know circumvent around the truth or whatever they're trying to say with just just stupid rhetoric it's so annoying I fucking hate it's changing it's got and I don't know how is it changing Ben it's changing because if this was 60 years ago that news wouldn't have gotten out or there would have been ways to just like crush that and there still are so true though you're right but it's definitely changing yeah there's a kind of a too much the iPhones to hide that stuff.

[1424] Not just that.

[1425] I mean, look what you're doing right now.

[1426] You're talking to millions of people.

[1427] I guess.

[1428] And you're saying that.

[1429] Don't tell me that.

[1430] Well, you're saying it to millions of people and then millions of people are going to have similar conversations because of that.

[1431] When you hear something interesting that someone talks about, you start talking about, hey, I heard this interesting conversation.

[1432] Really made me think about something.

[1433] And then that just wasn't even available 10 years ago.

[1434] It wasn't available 20 years ago.

[1435] Like all of the social media stuff, all of the, whether it's YouTube videos that people can make or podcast that people can make or whatever the fuck it is or blogs that people can write all of it is just information and that flow of information has never been greater it is an unstoppable river now you know to the point where that's why that baked Alaska dude was laughing like the fucking president jumped into the river like he's in the crazy river putting up memes and talking shit about people joking around about some lady having a fucking plastic surgery she's she had like a facelift and he said she was bleeding like do you believe that yeah you believe that the president is saying that it's like wow what's that movie that movie um uh with luke wilson and um idocracy idocracy it's it's happening it is really happening well it's for sure a bad system that no one wants to join in like if you're elon musk why the fuck would you want to be president you can bang super models and build rocket ships boom boom why do you know about our car do you know the funny story about our touring vehicle?

[1436] I do not.

[1437] Oh, it's great.

[1438] Drop it.

[1439] So, oh my God, Ben, is it three years ago?

[1440] Yeah, 2015.

[1441] 2015.

[1442] So in spring of 2015, we thought it would be, this is when we put Punk Kid up for donation so we could buy a car, so we could tour, and we didn't want to buy a van because that's annoying.

[1443] Who wants a van?

[1444] And we ended up, we were looking at SUVs, and we found a Cadillac, Escalade 2007.

[1445] Susan decided to start Well, they're all the same car P .S. Ford expeditions, escalades, navigators, whatever the year, they're the same structure, just different clothes.

[1446] And there was a great deal on a Cadillac escalade.

[1447] And we had like a good a lot of touring in front of us and we bought it.

[1448] And we bought it with 60 ,000 miles on it and it was in mint condition which was really strange.

[1449] And like the used car salesman's like, Yeah, there's clearly no kids in the back seat.

[1450] There's no Cheerios stuck between the seats.

[1451] And so we ended up buying this car.

[1452] And we were looking through the user manual to like, what does this button do?

[1453] And the former owner registration fell out, swear to God, Elon Musk.

[1454] And Ben had this great idea.

[1455] Ben had this great idea to get him to design a Tescalade for better economical touring.

[1456] But to put it into perspective, though, we did.

[1457] We bought it with 60 ,000 miles, and now it has like 160 ,000 miles on it.

[1458] And that was just about a little over two years ago.

[1459] Have you seen that shit he's going to do in California where he boars holes under Los Angeles and makes tunnels and you ride on a sled through the tunnel?

[1460] I heard about this, but I heard about this briefly, actually.

[1461] Yeah, you drop down into this tunnel and you go, you don't drive your car.

[1462] But why do you do that?

[1463] Jamie will pull it up, you can see it.

[1464] So watch what happens.

[1465] Damn, he's so fast, dude.

[1466] You pull up to this thing.

[1467] How do you do this, Jamie?

[1468] He's a wizard.

[1469] You pull up to this thing and it drops you down.

[1470] Drops your car.

[1471] Yeah, it drops you down.

[1472] You get in the queue and you drop down and then you get on a sled.

[1473] Your car's on a sled, so you're not driving anymore.

[1474] And your car could be on a solar power sled too, by the way.

[1475] With all the power we have in L .A. from the sun, I mean, it never stops being sunny out.

[1476] If they wanted to make these giant solar banks to power this thing, I bet they could.

[1477] But there's a video of it, like the idea of it, the animated version of it.

[1478] So, of course, everyone in the street is driving a Tesla.

[1479] There's nothing but Tesla.

[1480] I mean, Jesus Christ.

[1481] And old rotten, shitty cars from the 60s.

[1482] You have to pay you more to get on the sled to be the elite.

[1483] Yeah, otherwise you're one of those twas of stuck.

[1484] Super trafficker.

[1485] So watch this.

[1486] You drop down.

[1487] And then once you drop down, you are in these tunnels that he's building that are totally earthquake -proof.

[1488] Don't worry.

[1489] When they fill up with water and kill you and your family, don't sweat it.

[1490] Look, look.

[1491] They're totally earthquake -crum after you.

[1492] Make sure you have your go -bag ready.

[1493] I'm a fan of this.

[1494] And your oxygen mask.

[1495] This is like premium access freeways.

[1496] I just need everybody to understand that when the 1 ,000 foot waves come, you will not survive in these fucking tubes.

[1497] They will fill up with water and you will drown.

[1498] Joe, I'm so scared.

[1499] Most likely that tsunami's not coming.

[1500] But if and when.

[1501] This is insane.

[1502] That's a wrap.

[1503] A lot of thumbs down.

[1504] Yeah, because people are freaking out about the ocean.

[1505] We're right next to the fucking ocean and the ground moves.

[1506] It's over that.

[1507] We should be flying.

[1508] Yeah, Elon.

[1509] Flying cars.

[1510] Where's your goddamn Humbercraft?

[1511] Make flying cars that have batteries in the front so they can't hit each other so they're like repel.

[1512] Well, I watch bumper cars.

[1513] Well, repel.

[1514] You don't want to bump, dude.

[1515] You want to repel.

[1516] Like two magnets?

[1517] Ben, don't bump.

[1518] I watched this vice.

[1519] Hold on, I'm writing that down.

[1520] I watched this vice last night that scared the Jesus out of me. What was it?

[1521] It was, they were showing just, you know, technological intelligence to overtake cars and control the computers in the cars and just and it was crazy.

[1522] It was just like just hacking.

[1523] Hacking into any kind of car and I'm going to shut you down and run you off this cliff or I'm going to fuck with you make your windows go up and down and it's crazy.

[1524] I mean I don't want to be scared.

[1525] I don't want to live with like oh God and I try not to but that's fucking crazy.

[1526] Fucking crazy.

[1527] You know that journalist they think the big conspiracy theory is that he was killed because they overtook the controls of his car and slammed him into a tree and made him go 120 miles an hour he was his name Michael he was a famous journalist who wrote a story in the Rolling Stones about a general and it was he was embedded with them I believe it was in Afghanistan and he was Petraeus?

[1528] No no it wasn't about Petraeus it was another general No no it was a different general Michael Hastings was his name Michael Hastings, thank you.

[1529] So he wrote this article about this general, and the general had to step down because the general was joking around about Obama or something like that, and there was just like some, he got a little loose.

[1530] What is this?

[1531] There's a close sitting footage.

[1532] This is the ragged.

[1533] I don't think I want to.

[1534] So this, apparently, they tried to say that he committed suicide, and some people believe he did commit suicide.

[1535] And some people believe, so he's just flying down and just slams into a tree and his fucking car blows up.

[1536] Here's the thing, though, and this is like in the interest of full disclosure, they apparently said that they found amphetamines on him, on his body, right?

[1537] So that could mean that he was under the influence of amphetamines when it happened.

[1538] Or it could mean that he takes Adderall because a lot of journalists take Adderall.

[1539] So if they found it in his system, it doesn't necessarily mean he was speeded up and he was driving like a fucking maniac because he was off the rails.

[1540] It could just easily have meant that he uses Adderall to get his workload done, which a shitload of journalists do.

[1541] So it might not have meant anything.

[1542] And we talked to people that are experts, boy, people that are experts that weigh in on conspiracy car crash evidence, they're weirdos.

[1543] It's hard to find, like, who's right and who's wrong.

[1544] But some people said that the way the car had separated, the way the engine had exploded and launched itself from the car indicates some sort of an explosion, more it doesn't impact.

[1545] You know, because it just all, you know, hit the tree and blew up all at once.

[1546] But, again, could be bullshit.

[1547] But it is fucked up because the guy wrote a very, he wrote a very scathing article about this general, and it made the general retire.

[1548] And I know that guy got a shit tone of death threats.

[1549] And he was telling everybody that if somebody kills me, like, be sure that I didn't kill myself.

[1550] Damn.

[1551] Fuck.

[1552] That's crazy.

[1553] They can take over your car because your car's a computer.

[1554] Your car, a lot of cars today.

[1555] are connected to the internet through Wi -Fi, a lot of cars.

[1556] Like, they have their own Wi -Fi hub.

[1557] Like, you buy a new escalade, it comes to the Wi -Fi hub, so all the people in the car can play on their iPads or whatever while you're driving, you link up to the internet that's on the actual car itself.

[1558] That's a computer.

[1559] It's a computer.

[1560] It's connected to the net.

[1561] You drive it around, you know, somebody just gets in there.

[1562] I mean, there's no...

[1563] There's no bounds at this point.

[1564] There's no bounds.

[1565] But how can you keep things organized probably isn't the right way, but how do you keep us all alive without surrendering personal freedom?

[1566] Like, boom, boom.

[1567] Like, we kind of have a crazy, it's going on.

[1568] It's a very good question.

[1569] This is lighter stopped working.

[1570] See what the deal was.

[1571] Yeah, we know we don't have to talk about that.

[1572] You, you know, you don't really have an answer to that question because we don't even know what they could really do right now.

[1573] Well, especially if part of the important thing we need to accept is that we're all the same thing, then we have to accept that we all have to start acting like the same thing at the same time, right?

[1574] That's a very good point, but it gets lost when you start talking about people that are in the military and that are dealing with national emergencies or national security situations.

[1575] When you make a general retire because you, um, You chose to write an article about some things you heard him say that gets him fired and then somehow or another the military becomes compromised because this very important leader is no longer in a position of power.

[1576] That's a very tricky situation.

[1577] It's very tricky.

[1578] You did get the scoop and you did get to say how this guy was communicating, you know, candidly.

[1579] But these things are happening, they're happening interdependently and also completely enmeshed.

[1580] Like, you can't amesh the way that all these things, technology, blah, blah, blah, is developing.

[1581] But there's no way this dude, they can control that much.

[1582] There's no way people can control where this is going.

[1583] And by this, I mean, everything to that degree.

[1584] So you just have to, right, deal with all these new phenomena that are happening.

[1585] Oh, yeah, for sure.

[1586] Look at this.

[1587] This is the article, the runaway general, the profile that brought down McChrystal.

[1588] The Rolling Stone profile of Stanley McChrystal.

[1589] Crystal that changed history.

[1590] That's crazy.

[1591] That one article can get a general fired change history.

[1592] And it's crazy.

[1593] The guy who wrote it is dead.

[1594] Dead is fucked.

[1595] And they think dead from a crazy conspiracy.

[1596] Michael Hastings.

[1597] You know, who the fuck knows?

[1598] But boy, does it get exciting.

[1599] What's in the right corner?

[1600] Is that something about...

[1601] Wow.

[1602] So he's playing the general in this movie?

[1603] He's playing a runaway general.

[1604] There's this Netflix movie called movie based on Rolling Stone reporter Michael Hastings.

[1605] Wow, they're doing a movie based on that thing happening.

[1606] That's crazy.

[1607] It's already out, yeah.

[1608] Is it?

[1609] Yeah, it's on Netflix now.

[1610] Get the fuck out of it.

[1611] I don't know that's what it was about.

[1612] It's a Netflix movie?

[1613] Dude, Netflix almost has too much content.

[1614] It's overwhelming.

[1615] It's overwhelming.

[1616] And it's funny because there's so much content that that the quality is not that great.

[1617] So you get some shows And like this weekend, I had this like 25 minutes in, no. And I just couldn't fucking land on anything.

[1618] What were you trying to land on?

[1619] Something with substance and just more thought.

[1620] And I ended up watching Harry Potter go out of fire.

[1621] And I was so happy with my choice.

[1622] It's like you found what you were looking for.

[1623] Let me tell you something.

[1624] Anyway, I just started reading Harry Potter.

[1625] Let's leap to that.

[1626] Look at us out of this.

[1627] Jesus Christ.

[1628] Harry Potter is amazing.

[1629] Important figure, dude.

[1630] We can't ignore it.

[1631] Can't ignore it.

[1632] And let's be honest, there's a lot of parallels to the wizarding world and our fucking weird world and politics.

[1633] There's politics in the wizarding world as well.

[1634] Do you do manage it?

[1635] Do you guys ever go to the Harry Potter ride, a Universal?

[1636] No, not yet.

[1637] I haven't finished.

[1638] I have one, I'm a book and a half from finishing, so I don't know what happens.

[1639] Don't fuck it up for me. No, the ride.

[1640] I'm talking about the ride at Universal.

[1641] Yeah, but I don't want to.

[1642] Do you really think I know the plot to any of those fucking books?

[1643] I feel like you do and you're just plain cool.

[1644] Here we go.

[1645] Let's act this out.

[1646] So then I, so it's not decided who's driving on the back too.

[1647] Oh, I'll drive.

[1648] Here, give it to me. I don't give a shit.

[1649] Do you have any protein bars?

[1650] Yes, yes, plenty of protein bars.

[1651] We're going to be fine.

[1652] It's always Uber.

[1653] Worry not, my friends.

[1654] We'll get through this with a steady hand.

[1655] There is no concern.

[1656] But the Harry Potter ride.

[1657] Universal is the shit.

[1658] It's really fun.

[1659] It's fucking crazy.

[1660] You've been in it.

[1661] Oh, yeah, yeah, it's fun.

[1662] It's really fun.

[1663] Does it feel, I was telling you about this.

[1664] Maybe it's the same thing.

[1665] Don't you get on a broom and it feels like you're flying?

[1666] It's not a broom.

[1667] You're sitting in a chair, but you're flying around.

[1668] Yeah, like you kind of would be if you were in a broom.

[1669] Yeah, there's a lot of stuff going on, just dragons and shit.

[1670] It's fun.

[1671] Oh my God.

[1672] It's a really good ride.

[1673] It's like it's really well made.

[1674] You don't understand.

[1675] Is this level of excitement?

[1676] I was so excited about Harry Potter?

[1677] I was a Harry Potter late bloomer, okay?

[1678] I was all Lord of the Rings.

[1679] I read Dune, love Dune.

[1680] You know, I'm just like, I'm a total nerd.

[1681] And I didn't read Harry Potter.

[1682] And Ben really encouraged me this past year.

[1683] And he got me the Sorcerer Stone, which is the first book.

[1684] And I just can't stop.

[1685] But you don't have to.

[1686] I won't.

[1687] I won't.

[1688] But it's amazing.

[1689] Like, I can't tell you how much joy it's brought me. as an adult yeah it's just here's the thing I think I feel like I have an affinity for like fighting darkness just in myself because I'm fucking dark but I'm also very light so you know as such as life and it's yeah here we go you're going in yeah I'm going in but I for the folks listening at home they both made digging motions so the last book the last book was the Order of the Phoenix which is very political, because there's, there's, you know, a political presence, there's the, or a government, excuse me, within the wizarding community.

[1690] And it was just really interesting to be reading that while also like watching our local news and our global news and just, it's all part of the same story in terms of manipulation and what we interpret as truth.

[1691] And it was, it was just an interesting experience to read that book and then to listen to like my favorite podcasts and news outlets and be like this isn't any different than Harry Potter it's all based on the familiarity of problems in human nature right sure it's all based on good and evil and fuck -ups and ego and power control and battles yeah that's what we got value of J .K. Rawlings Harry Potter business is worth 25 billion whoa cool that seems like a lot How do you get it, how do you get a piece of that?

[1692] That is excessive.

[1693] You don't.

[1694] She's rolling.

[1695] But it's that story.

[1696] You think she's like willing to get married?

[1697] How does that work?

[1698] No, I should save the joke.

[1699] What?

[1700] You got a joke?

[1701] No, I'm going to save the joke.

[1702] Suze.

[1703] You guys know this is live, right?

[1704] Don't argue over saving jokes.

[1705] Just say the fucking joke.

[1706] Boom.

[1707] This better be good.

[1708] Oh my God.

[1709] We hopboxer.

[1710] We hopboxer.

[1711] Joe, you didn't even smoke.

[1712] Oh, I can't.

[1713] Can't.

[1714] Okay.

[1715] Don't do it.

[1716] It's not my joke.

[1717] It's not my joke.

[1718] Let's just pull out of this.

[1719] It's not my joke.

[1720] First of a moment, like we're about to hit the ocean.

[1721] How did Harry Potter get down the hill?

[1722] How?

[1723] J .K. Rowling.

[1724] Solid.

[1725] I don't understand it.

[1726] It's okay.

[1727] It's not my joke.

[1728] I didn't come up with it.

[1729] I heard a second hand.

[1730] It's like a third hand.

[1731] J .K. Rowling is the hunch line.

[1732] But the joke is.

[1733] And also the author of the famous Harry Potter books here.

[1734] See, I knew this was a bad idea.

[1735] Nope, it's over.

[1736] This is a little rough.

[1737] You said walking J .K. Ben knows I should have aborted the mission.

[1738] Don't put this on me. Oh, God.

[1739] Oh, my God.

[1740] J .K. meaning just kidding.

[1741] It's okay.

[1742] It's okay.

[1743] I'm starting to like it better now.

[1744] I'm just so glad you told that on Joe's podcast.

[1745] I don't give a fuck.

[1746] I love dad jokes.

[1747] I love stupid jokes.

[1748] Get at me. She's owning it.

[1749] She's owning it.

[1750] I made him.

[1751] Thank God.

[1752] Tell me about this fucking crazy guitar you guys have that somebody gave you.

[1753] Oh, the National.

[1754] What happened?

[1755] It's outside.

[1756] What happened with that guitar?

[1757] That thing's insane.

[1758] It's a beautiful guitar.

[1759] There's a company called National, and they...

[1760] That thing is insane looking.

[1761] They gave us one because...

[1762] Well, I think they like us, but they also like you.

[1763] That was a part of it.

[1764] We have to admit that.

[1765] Thank you, Joe.

[1766] Yeah, thanks, dude.

[1767] I didn't do anything.

[1768] Thank you them.

[1769] That's a crazy looking guitar.

[1770] That's not a normal guitar.

[1771] Yeah, it's a resonator, so it has...

[1772] I can't.

[1773] Actually, remember, I think it has tricone resonators, which means it has the thing.

[1774] Show me the thing.

[1775] You want to hear some music?

[1776] Is that way you're getting it?

[1777] No, no, I want to see that guitar.

[1778] That's it right there, right?

[1779] That's closer to it.

[1780] No, that's not it, but it's close.

[1781] Pioneer.

[1782] Is that it, Ben?

[1783] No, that's not the one.

[1784] Now, I thought a guitar had to be made out of wood.

[1785] No. I mean, well, this is technically, well, it's a different kind of guitar.

[1786] Some call them Dobros.

[1787] I'm definitely not claiming any guitar knowledge.

[1788] So there's a cone inside of, I feel like I want Ben.

[1789] here so I don't book this up but um there's a resonator inside like a speaker uh inside of see see how there's all this um kind of mesh look at will you go back up for a thing up that one yeah that okay that's like a built -in speaker and you can plug them in so they're electric so it's a speaker like a car speaker like a stereo speaker um not necessarily no i mean it's a uh without electronics there's a cone inside that the sound resonates louder like a banjo kind of a little bit but um so it's not like a like a stereo speaker national i'm really sorry if i just butcher the pitch well jamie's a actual audio it's not powered but it has a specific tone to it that isn't like your your regular acoustic or electric guitar and when you plug it in it sounds amazing and it has sort of like a down -homey vibe and it's beautiful down -homey vibe is that interesting down -homey vibe like down -homey music like acoustic music is like down -homey music right well um yeah I mean folk music and soul music are down home resonator for guitar cover cover plate for biscuit bridge then I might have butchered the whole explanation of what a national is and I really hope that you can help me she nailed it okay so is there any wood on that is the back of That thing was the fretboards with it, and the headstock in the neck.

[1790] I'm going to pee.

[1791] But the body's metal.

[1792] That thing's insane looking, man. And so what kind of a different sound does this thing make than a regular guitar?

[1793] Wow.

[1794] So it's just...

[1795] It's like a lot louder.

[1796] It cuts a lot more.

[1797] It's more resonant.

[1798] It's got a metal sound to it.

[1799] Yeah, sure.

[1800] So one...

[1801] If I had a slide, these things...

[1802] things are great for playing slide with um because james got something what do you got a lighter i probably fucked that up but you can kind of you want a round one or a flat one but you can kind of hear it maybe oh yeah it sounds like shit but you know what i mean like some old school blue shit what is that there exactly cigar cigar try that round cigar thing cohiba oh Whenever I hear that kind of shit, I think of like, oh, blues.

[1803] Yeah, because all that Robert Johnson stuff, he's playing in Slide.

[1804] All that.

[1805] He probably didn't have a resonated, though.

[1806] Wow.

[1807] Yeah, I suck a plane slap, but it's, uh...

[1808] Are you a John Lee Hooker fan?

[1809] Oh, yeah, my God.

[1810] God damn, was that guy a bad motherfucker.

[1811] Is he still around?

[1812] No, he passed.

[1813] When did he pass?

[1814] Ah, maybe 10 years ago?

[1815] Because he was old.

[1816] He was playing when he was in his 90s.

[1817] Oh, yeah.

[1818] I didn't discover him until he was probably in his 80s.

[1819] 2001.

[1820] Boom, boom, boom, boom.

[1821] Oh, my God, that's so good.

[1822] You know what?

[1823] This will be big ups on Gary.

[1824] When I saw, we saw Gary for the first time, he was just acoustic.

[1825] We played this show with him.

[1826] This was like 2011 or something.

[1827] And he made me feel like John Lee Hooker because it was just him.

[1828] And there's this hypnosis that he can.

[1829] kind of set over you.

[1830] You know, that's like a real blues thing.

[1831] That's where you get deeper into it.

[1832] These guys can really play that music.

[1833] It's the same thing.

[1834] John Lee Hooker, you listen to it and you're kind of like entrance.

[1835] Jamie, find my Instagram where Honey Honey had Gary Clark together on stage.

[1836] You guys were doing Midnight Rider.

[1837] I filmed a little bit of it and put it up on Instagram.

[1838] It was just so crazy.

[1839] I did everything that I hate people doing at comedy clubs.

[1840] Nerd.

[1841] Oh, look, there's my hat.

[1842] Oh, God.

[1843] Like, listen to that.

[1844] That's so Gary Clark.

[1845] He's so cool.

[1846] That's me playing.

[1847] Both of you.

[1848] Now it's...

[1849] I know because she had to check the lyrics.

[1850] But let me just explain this for all the assholes that gave her crap.

[1851] Oh, I got so much crap for that.

[1852] She didn't know the words of the song.

[1853] They did this impromptu song, Blop.

[1854] on stage in front of all these people and she had to check her phone for the lyrics I had to block some dude who was being such a fucking cock and I was like I'm sorry I'm not going to I just needs attention screw that dude but I you know whatever shit happens you know it was such a fun night we did a song I didn't know and I wanted to sing the words properly and I had to look them up on my phone but someone thought I was texting some dude and that wasn't the case thousands of people enjoyed that one or two were cunts and you're focusing on the wrong Thank you, Joe.

[1855] Thank you.

[1856] It's amazing.

[1857] You've always been on social media Yoda.

[1858] You are.

[1859] You've got to just know when to stop.

[1860] Put out the right vibe, be yourself, and get the fuck out of dodge and shit gets weird.

[1861] Just get away.

[1862] You can't control it.

[1863] You definitely can't argue with them.

[1864] And you're right.

[1865] And it is an effort to not care because I. But you do care.

[1866] We should all care.

[1867] Well, I just like love people.

[1868] I really do.

[1869] You got to recognize what that person is.

[1870] It's hard.

[1871] And I want to love that person too.

[1872] I think.

[1873] But it's not about caring.

[1874] It's because you're going to care.

[1875] It's about recognizing what that person is and then not letting him into your house.

[1876] Agreed.

[1877] Like, you know what that is.

[1878] It's a dummy.

[1879] They just want to get mad about stuff.

[1880] Especially if you found out what it was, that you were just checking the lyrics to a song that you'd never sang before and you were singing live with Gary Clark Jr. In front of a fuck.

[1881] And it was like midnight in downtown L .A. in some weird -ass bar.

[1882] Oh, man. That was weird.

[1883] Yeah, that was weird.

[1884] That makes me want to move to downtown L .A. Does it?

[1885] Live like Batman.

[1886] some sort of a warehouse and fucking have a English dude who wash a shit over for him lights He's pretty unhappy Joe He's so you think from the outside You don't know him man People might think you're unhappy All those musicians Why are all dark?

[1887] Why is Batman unhappy?

[1888] That's what I'm saying Because he's lonely as fuck How do you know that?

[1889] What are talking about?

[1890] I feel like all the movies Are going into how bummed out he is all the time Because he can't share what he's doing Because he has to live in secret Yeah exactly He could He just needs a secret life He can't get the validation.

[1891] Yeah, he's got one old British dude.

[1892] One old friend.

[1893] And funny.

[1894] He just needs more friends.

[1895] Yep.

[1896] Like, if I was Batman, I feel like I could tell you and you wouldn't tell anybody.

[1897] You're absolutely right.

[1898] Joe, maybe you already did like that.

[1899] You are Batman.

[1900] You just didn't know.

[1901] Did you ever see that?

[1902] There was a, oh, I guess I was actually a comic book.

[1903] It was a forgetful professor.

[1904] It was a professor in the comic book.

[1905] This guy was, he was forgetful about all these different things, but he was like a super genius professor.

[1906] And at the end of the comic book, he recognized that he was actually an alien from another planet that came down to Earth to help us innovate.

[1907] But he forgot it to you, Joe, but you are also an alien from another planet that came down here.

[1908] I'm so silly.

[1909] Joe's purring right now.

[1910] You know it's true.

[1911] Oh, boy.

[1912] You guys should do more of those weird little downtown shows, though.

[1913] We should.

[1914] You should.

[1915] Those were so strange.

[1916] night and it was so great because you were there that's why it was great we had a great time it was awesome it was fun it's pretty fucking badass yeah that was amazing intimate shows are so big they're so different you know like you almost kind of have to do them like if you just jlo the whole thing and you're on these big ass giant stages for the rest of your life she on big ass giant stages i would imagine if she's doing anything she's gonna be like separated from everybody right they're not getting close to that white rose petals at her feet and shit yeah but i mean i think that as attractive to that is we're going to do it hold on there's the counterpoint yeah you don't just about to come as attractive as that thought seems like that's like the worst thing that could ever happen to you because it gets so separated for everybody that you're like up on some giant ass stage and every way you go you can't interact with people it depends we just both saw roger waters last or two weeks ago and it was incredible Tony went he said it was insane oh my god and and i think i think there's a well i mean it's it's it's it's it's there's a reason that he's doing what he's doing and people are coming to see him because it's incredible and it's authentic and it's raw and like that man has obviously he has teams around him that help build that show he doesn't do that by himself but um it was oh man it wasn't white rose petals it was it was beautiful music that's a different thing that's a different thing we were kind of talking about earlier and i think there's a place for that too sometimes you're fucking starving and you need something right now there's also like a lot of money in being that icon that diva that thing you know it's like it's a very attractive position to try to attain it's almost like you just run a little too close to the sun and burn the wax off your wings some of it's authentic and some of it is totally you are a machine you are part of the manufactured idealism that you represent and that is a heavy burden i don't but you know it's probably not wish that on anybody well it's probably not inauthentic, it's people's ambition to get there.

[1917] Oh, yeah.

[1918] I think the people in those positions are so fucking ravenous for that kind of attention, and that's the only way you would possibly climb to the top of that mountain.

[1919] Yeah, you have to be fucking focused.

[1920] I don't know.

[1921] I think some people are manipulated.

[1922] I don't know.

[1923] Like Michael Jackson?

[1924] I think some people have an idea of the art, and they're also exploited within that realm, because some parts of the record industry are fucking insidious.

[1925] Right.

[1926] You know, and they take, like, remember you were talking about that documentary with these, like, 15 -year -old kids that were so talented, but they were, like, clearly just getting just sucked into the thing.

[1927] Well, you're too young.

[1928] You're too young to know what you're doing.

[1929] There's just no if, ands were buts about it.

[1930] In order to make the decision to be a giant, like Michael Jackson, like we were talking about Jackson 5 earlier, like when you sing in ABC, I mean, he was a fucking baby.

[1931] Yeah.

[1932] He was a baby.

[1933] And he was on TV, you know, he was on.

[1934] He was a huge star.

[1935] But also, like, he had his family running the show, and it was, like, a really fucked up dynamic.

[1936] And so it was almost like his, I mean, don't get me wrong, his talent was undeniable.

[1937] But, like, his family were the record industry in that respect.

[1938] But, dude, his talent was so undeniable that he was the youngest one, and he got to sing.

[1939] Could you imagine you grew up with four bad motherfuckers as brothers?

[1940] Your dad is a professional musician.

[1941] And you are so good.

[1942] They're like, okay, let him sing.

[1943] So what I'm saying.

[1944] Yeah.

[1945] Like, everybody else must have wanted to say.

[1946] They all did their solo projects afterwards.

[1947] They didn't say shit.

[1948] Well, Michael had the microphone.

[1949] They just like, let him sing, let him sing, let him sing.

[1950] Just let him sing.

[1951] Yeah.

[1952] And people react to that real way, right?

[1953] I mean, that's what, you know, there's the exploitative aspect.

[1954] And then it's like, everybody wanted to fucking see him sing.

[1955] I wish I saw him sing.

[1956] It was two things, all right?

[1957] It was this emergence of this incredible sound that came out of this one person and all the different projects that he was involved in.

[1958] And then it was also the tragic, almost like decimating of a, a potential life because his life only existed so strongly in the public eye that it didn't exist anywhere else in a normal form outside it was just a chaos a mess of hanging out with kids and weird relationships with women that didn't seem real and living in an amusement park it was just a mess it was just a total disaster like everything outside of the magic that he did in the public eye was just hell it's really weird because what he did in the public like thriller and beat it and all those different things i mean they were so so intense like i was in high school when all that stuff was going on and i remember just just watching like thriller on television you know when they had the premiere the music video and everybody sat around and watched thriller when it came out there's nothing like that ever oh yeah ever it's crazy like sort of like when hendricks came along there was nothing like that before well when michael jackson came along there was nothing like that before either you're like what the fuck like someone had taken the whole thing and put it in this totally new package where it's like this feminine guy and he had one glove on he was dancing everybody wanted to move like him and it's like what and the fuck is this guy doing back to your like freddie mercury kind of dick out thing it's like he did what he wanted to do and he was he was iconic because of it I think that's that's part of it it's like you just have to own it well but he did it on a level that was undeniable, just like he talked about, before, because of his ambition.

[1959] It wasn't just, I'm going to be me. It was like, I am going to be me to the furthest extent that I possibly fucking can.

[1960] And this is what happened.

[1961] You know what I mean?

[1962] I have a friend who went to his house up in Los Olives, and they toured his dance studio, and he had this private dance studio and there's this groove in the floor.

[1963] And this is, you know, he was later in his life at this point, but he had worn out a part of the floor from just practicing his shit.

[1964] Wow.

[1965] And this is way beyond his teens and 20s.

[1966] That's just like who he was all the time.

[1967] You know what people don't respect?

[1968] That song, Dragon Attack.

[1969] I don't know that song.

[1970] You don't know the Queen song, Dragon Attack?

[1971] I know the troll.

[1972] I quivered song.

[1973] Oger Battle.

[1974] I know Ogre Battle.

[1975] It's one of those songs that people forgot.

[1976] Can we play it?

[1977] I don't know the song.

[1978] We can play it, but the people on YouTube can't hear it.

[1979] And we'll probably have to, We could play it for us, though, right?

[1980] We have to do some fancy editing.

[1981] Probably.

[1982] We get yanked off YouTube for everything.

[1983] We show a video of a caterpillar.

[1984] We get yanked off YouTube.

[1985] Wait, we can't use YouTube?

[1986] We get yanked off YouTube for stuff.

[1987] Like when we put things on the air that are on YouTube that someone else has, listen to this.

[1988] This is Dragon Attack.

[1989] People don't remember this.

[1990] Just think about.

[1991] Give me some volume.

[1992] Like, come on.

[1993] Meth.

[1994] That dick's just out.

[1995] Oh my God.

[1996] Come on.

[1997] It's an forgotten classic.

[1998] You have to have Brian May on your podcast.

[1999] Who?

[2000] The guitar.

[2001] Dix out.

[2002] Dix out.

[2003] What?

[2004] So good.

[2005] It feels so good.

[2006] All right, we'll have to fade out here.

[2007] We have to fade out here.

[2008] We're getting trouble.

[2009] Come on, dragon attack.

[2010] People slept on dragon attack.

[2011] That shit is nasty.

[2012] That's one of the Queen's best songs.

[2013] It's just occurring to me right now.

[2014] What does that sound?

[2015] Do you hear that?

[2016] What is that?

[2017] Check to see if that's my car.

[2018] This is the cigar.

[2019] Maybe the feds.

[2020] It's the building?

[2021] Oh, no. Oh, is there a fire line?

[2022] Hmm.

[2023] Oh, it's probably next door.

[2024] It's getting robbed.

[2025] Should we go?

[2026] Should we go intervene, guys?

[2027] What kind of weapons do you have in this?

[2028] place.

[2029] Oh, we got Joe Rogan.

[2030] We're good.

[2031] Got a lot of shit.

[2032] Mesa's.

[2033] Joe, you are a human weapon.

[2034] Definitely not.

[2035] There's bullets.

[2036] Bullets are super hard to defend against.

[2037] Okay.

[2038] I saw, I told you I saw Baby Driver last night.

[2039] Baby Driver, yeah, you're saying earlier.

[2040] Oh, my God.

[2041] Everyone needs to see it.

[2042] That's what I keep hearing.

[2043] Speaking of incredible music and just a great story, it's, it's the tis.

[2044] You guys hear that sound?

[2045] That sounds of the background is preventing us from playing you beautiful, harmonious music.

[2046] But we just can't.

[2047] Same laugh.

[2048] Are you laughing?

[2049] I keep trying to ask him.

[2050] What do you want to ask?

[2051] If you have, you've got to get Brian May on your podcast.

[2052] I would love to.

[2053] Oh my God.

[2054] What's going on, young Jeremy?

[2055] Nobody's next door and the alarm's going off.

[2056] So this will be going on forever.

[2057] And this is why we're moving.

[2058] It's kind of cool.

[2059] We should turn it into a rap song like NWA.

[2060] You know, he's like, woo, woo, woo, we can kind of just.

[2061] I would imagine that these things have a time limit where they're allowed to stay on.

[2062] I don't know.

[2063] I think, I don't know about that.

[2064] The alert needs to be fervent and...

[2065] Yeah, but what happens?

[2066] We weren't here, so it goes back on.

[2067] And then the security people have to come.

[2068] Somebody getting robbed?

[2069] What's next door?

[2070] Is it worth checking out?

[2071] No. It's not anything exciting?

[2072] Just a bunch of shit.

[2073] I don't know what happened.

[2074] Bummer.

[2075] We might have to wrap this bitch up.

[2076] Can we talk through that?

[2077] Sure.

[2078] What's that?

[2079] Maybe like a minute or two and I'll see if there's someone out.

[2080] there that's going to unlock it or stop it soon but I don't know if it'll stop yeah I wonder what's going to happen this could be one of our shortest pot oh I don't know how long have we been going we've been going for a while it's already 430 we've been going since two right so I think that there's um there's probably not a lot of people working today because today's Monday the third tomorrow's the fourth people just say fuck fuck Monday then yeah that's fine you know get that extra day independence day um tomorrow's the day where people are going to do some stupid shit with Some fireworks.

[2081] What are you doing tomorrow?

[2082] Grilling.

[2083] Yeah.

[2084] Oh, man, that's great.

[2085] So you're doing later, too.

[2086] Can we still come over?

[2087] Are we growing tonight?

[2088] We're grilling tonight.

[2089] Tonight we're going to grill some access deer.

[2090] So excited.

[2091] Fresh from Hawaii.

[2092] Oh, my God.

[2093] How did you get, you just ship it with you on the plane?

[2094] Is there some sort of special?

[2095] You just freeze it, freeze it before you take it back, you know, put in the cooler.

[2096] Wow.

[2097] Yeah.

[2098] Just want, do you have, you permitted for a certain number of deer that you can.

[2099] Not in Lanai.

[2100] In Lanai, they don't have any predators.

[2101] So you could really, I only shot one of them.

[2102] They're really hard to get with a bow and arrow.

[2103] It's hard to get close to them.

[2104] They're super, they evolved with tigers.

[2105] Whoa.

[2106] So these things are just so fucking.

[2107] This is how, they're so fast.

[2108] This happened more than once.

[2109] I shot at one, and it ran away from the arrow.

[2110] The arrow is going 200.

[2111] Wow, that's amazing.

[2112] Well, I had to switch arrows because I had heavier arrows.

[2113] They go 245 feet a second.

[2114] And in the mid -hunt, we had to.

[2115] switch to these other arrows that go 275 feet a second.

[2116] I had a gain an extra 30 feet a second because the deer would even then they still ducked it they would look at the arrow coming their way and get the fuck out of dodge.

[2117] They're like yeah bitch are you kidding me?

[2118] Oh my god.

[2119] I mean you know how fast that is?

[2120] That's so fast because they literally evolved running away from tigers crazy man that there's any chance that's going off anytime soon there's no one around.

[2121] We don't have to play.

[2122] We got issues folks or we could play with a sounder we don't have to play We could, or we could We could definitely just keep doing it Does it bother you that this thing is going on in the background?

[2123] No, it's cool I mean, I've had a few drinks at this point I feel pretty warm I have a couple of more I feel really inspired If you guys smell smoke, let me know I don't play some jams I sounded Russian It was a little Some chimps Do we want to play some songs I was at this base Play time for Putin In New York It had a tiger pelt It's a famous tiger A real one?

[2124] Don't day in New York It's called the Explorers Club This place is crazy Oh wow Is this like some S &M shit Ben What do you Tell us They're not exploring it Any place can be an S &M So it's like a safari type deal Like one of those clubs It was like maybe late 1800s Teddy Roosevelt started this place Oh of course With a bunch of bros And they have all this taxidermy In this room And one of them is this pelt of a tiger A tigress That killed 48 people What?

[2125] Wow In India Yeah this It kind of like It was a phenomenon It got a taste for blood And started hunting men Or people I don't know if it was just Men But they had this thing on the wall Which was insane You know that's a real issue In India in India there's one part of this river that's very brackish and the tigers drink this salt water and because of the typhoons a lot of times they wind up having a bunch of people wash up in the river and the tigers wind up eating people so they developed a pinch it yeah they have a taste for humans to the point where there's one section of india over the past 200 years tigers have killed over 300 ,000 people what the fucker people still going there it was a bit from one of my specials It was a bit from talking monkeys in space.

[2126] Okay, Ben, you can yell.

[2127] It's weird.

[2128] It really is true.

[2129] Why are people going there?

[2130] Yeah, but why?

[2131] They live there.

[2132] They're poor.

[2133] After the first 100 ,000, you're like, we should leave.

[2134] There's nothing really they could do about it.

[2135] So it's not just, it's like they've evolved in that way.

[2136] It's not just like one main, you know, predatory tiger that's all.

[2137] No, no, no, no, there's many, many, many tigers over hundreds of years.

[2138] The tigers are gotten used to eating people.

[2139] Like tigers are particularly ruthless.

[2140] It's that funny story when you're like, I'm afraid of sharks and, like, sharks don't eat people.

[2141] They don't like the way we taste.

[2142] How the fuck do you know?

[2143] Yeah, exactly.

[2144] They just don't, they don't expect us.

[2145] They could be like, actually, I took a bite, and that was fucking delicious.

[2146] It's like, if you expected you were going to get cottage cheese, but instead you got a cantaloupe, you'd kind of freak out.

[2147] But you might really get into cantaloupes after why.

[2148] You're like, I fucking love divers.

[2149] You know, divers are delicious.

[2150] Oh, I like it.

[2151] I eat them in the wetsuit, dude.

[2152] I don't give a fuck, you know?

[2153] Well, you know, that's not a scene.

[2154] deal right yeah it's a diver it's like a oh my god you fuck my fucking worst nightmare yeah this one section of this river in India I did this whole bit about it in my 2009 comedy special because there was a real story about a boat of people there was five guys in this boat and three of them were killed by tigers so the tiger swam out to the boat jumped in killed a guy dragged him into the water swam to the shore dropped his body off jumped back in the water, swam out to the boat again, got the next guy, swam back to the shore.

[2155] He was a tiger hoarder.

[2156] He was just killing spree.

[2157] That's fucked up.

[2158] God damn.

[2159] Three guys.

[2160] This is real joke.

[2161] Why did he make friends with him like in life of ties?

[2162] I feel like everything you say is real.

[2163] It's totally real.

[2164] I wouldn't lie to you about something's so important.

[2165] That's crazy.

[2166] It's a danger.

[2167] Just stop and think about what that must have been like in the last two guys.

[2168] This is why I stay home at my apartment in Silver Lake.

[2169] Oh my God, the terror.

[2170] That's what we need.

[2171] Tigers roam in the streets of stuff.

[2172] silver like to let people understand we have cougars coyotes coyotes i got a pamphist day you guys are close to griffinth park i should have brought the pamphlet in it's oh oh that's such a relief yeah that means that the the crooks have found the bolts and cut in the lines they've got the booty the pirates have got the booty feels weird now we're alone with their thoughts i know what you're talking about oh it's so awkward there was a guy that I had on there was a wildlife biologist it was telling me about the cougar that lives in griffith park.

[2173] It just, just jacks deer.

[2174] That's all he does.

[2175] And the occasional dog.

[2176] They just, and they monitor this cat.

[2177] So there's a single cougar.

[2178] Big cat.

[2179] This is a cat.

[2180] They have a photo of him with the Hollywood sign.

[2181] By the way, we have coming.

[2182] We have a print of that coming.

[2183] Um, the, for the new studio, it has a collar on, but it's a wild cougar.

[2184] And they have to capture it every couple of years.

[2185] It's because its collar runs out of GPS.

[2186] So the battery dies on the collar, so they have to find this fucker, and then they have to dart him.

[2187] There he is right there.

[2188] Whoa.

[2189] Look at it.

[2190] He has his collar, and look in the background with the Hollywood sign.

[2191] That's not planned.

[2192] That was just a camera trap photograph.

[2193] A random photo.

[2194] That's a big cat.

[2195] Look that collar.

[2196] He must be fucking pissed.

[2197] Dude, that's like Franco Columbo.

[2198] I mean, that's insane.

[2199] His forearms are fucking jacked.

[2200] The Hollywood sign is actually 10 feet behind.

[2201] What do you think he can lift?

[2202] A lot.

[2203] He looks like the rock.

[2204] He's built like the rock.

[2205] No, he's built like a power lift.

[2206] They're almost, like his front arm.

[2207] Look at that, dude.

[2208] The front arms are insane.

[2209] I want to look at this guy in the middle to the left with that fucking look on his face.

[2210] That guy.

[2211] It's all the same one.

[2212] That's the same thing.

[2213] They took a picture of him.

[2214] He's so stoned.

[2215] Hey, what's up, Rob?

[2216] He got an edible.

[2217] Yeah, he eats a lot of edibles.

[2218] You know, I think he eats, it's just stoners.

[2219] I think if you eat stoners, you get high.

[2220] Oh, my God.

[2221] That's my worst nightmare.

[2222] Jesus, man. They have to capture this cat every two years.

[2223] This cat's been captured like four times.

[2224] He's pretty cute, too, though.

[2225] I think he had mange there, right?

[2226] Is that why they captured him?

[2227] That he had some sort of a disease They had to work with him on But it's so weird What do they call him?

[2228] Stephen I think his name is P22 Right?

[2229] Is that his name?

[2230] That's what they call him?

[2231] Oh my God, no to...

[2232] He was severely infected with Mange.

[2233] Blow, sorry, dude.

[2234] That sucks.

[2235] It's an intense life.

[2236] And it's a male?

[2237] Uh -huh.

[2238] And he's out there running free.

[2239] That's what's really interesting.

[2240] They just let him do what he does.

[2241] He's not running free.

[2242] He's running the show.

[2243] He's like, he's like king shit.

[2244] He's definitely king shit if you're a jogger.

[2245] He's like Simba.

[2246] You just, Don't want to catch him.

[2247] Of California.

[2248] If he has a limp and he can't take out deer anymore, that's when you're fucked.

[2249] So you've got to be packing heat, Ben.

[2250] These are the things that are...

[2251] When we were in, like, Yellowstone and we were driving through, I did not want to get out of the car.

[2252] Bears!

[2253] Yellowstone is pretty fascinating.

[2254] It's beautiful.

[2255] I mean, we went and saw geysers and all the beautiful stuff, but, like, a week later, there was some hiker that just got killed.

[2256] By a bear?

[2257] Yeah, by a grizzly.

[2258] and it was like there was footage of it it was there was a um not a sheriff um the ranger ranger ranger mobile mobile ranger vehicle went by and the man like literally like seconds after the ranger drove by this just huge grizzly goes across the path and there was a hiker who had his headphones on just got it's really terrible did you hear about that kid 11 year old kid that saved a fishing party yesterday no a charging grizzly bear at a a fishing party, and this 11 -year -old kid gunned it down in Alaska.

[2259] What?

[2260] Gunned it down?

[2261] It's not a grizzly technically.

[2262] It's a brown bear, but they're really the same bear.

[2263] What a grizzly is is a coastal brown bear, and what a coastal bear is called is a brown bear.

[2264] That's the kid.

[2265] 11 -year -old kid charging grizzly with one well -placed shot.

[2266] Where is he exactly?

[2267] So I can tell you if that's the right designation.

[2268] He says young Harry Potter.

[2269] That's what that hat says.

[2270] Where does it say it was?

[2271] Huna, Alaska.

[2272] Go to the map and find it where the fuck Huna Alaska.

[2273] He's 11, Elliot 11.

[2274] The dog is so happy.

[2275] Huna, Alaska.

[2276] The kid lives in Huna, Alaska.

[2277] That's amazing.

[2278] It's like equally as sad as it is, like.

[2279] Way up yonder, huh?

[2280] You don't want to see the people die from the bear, but then you feel bad for the bear.

[2281] That's actually a brown bear.

[2282] They're calling it a grizzly, but it's on the coast.

[2283] Juno.

[2284] I think that's, I think that's tech.

[2285] I might be wrong.

[2286] Aunt Diana lived in Juneau.

[2287] Look how fucking bit Alaska is.

[2288] Go back.

[2289] Look how big Alaska is.

[2290] I've been there a bunch I've been there a few times for fishing I did a show there once What do you like to fish Joe Salmon?

[2291] What?

[2292] Can I come?

[2293] Sure I love to fish Let's do it Yeah so does Ben Let's do a family vacation I would love that'll be the best thing ever Let's do it.

[2294] We're a lot of fun We'll plant it tonight at our cookout Okay that sounds great We're having a cookout just an hour from now But Alaska is you know what's really crazy The thing that I didn't anticipate How fucking aggressive the mosquitoes are Oh you hear that Because they only live for like a week.

[2295] Oh, geez.

[2296] So when they're out and exaggerating with a week.

[2297] Do you wear the stuff?

[2298] Yeah, you've got to wear the stuff.

[2299] Yeah.

[2300] Another move is a thermicel.

[2301] If you, you know what a thermicel is?

[2302] I don't know.

[2303] You press a button.

[2304] It's an ingenious device that my friends, the rivets up in Alberta told me about.

[2305] You have friends called the rivets?

[2306] The rivets.

[2307] John and Jen.

[2308] John and Jen Rivet.

[2309] That's amazing.

[2310] They're hunting guides in Alberta.

[2311] But you press this button and it lights this.

[2312] Okay.

[2313] A little tiny element inside of it, and it heats up that blue pad.

[2314] Go back to that thing?

[2315] That blue pad, you change those out.

[2316] After a while, they become white, and that blue pad puts out this fine mist.

[2317] No, it burns.

[2318] It burns off a fine mist that you can't detect, but fucking mosquitoes don't want no part of it.

[2319] Amazing.

[2320] Yeah, and it makes your dick grow.

[2321] I just made that part of.

[2322] I don't know what it does that.

[2323] But what is that?

[2324] Thermicel, are those heated?

[2325] Is that heated?

[2326] or is that repeller?

[2327] You put them under your tutsies.

[2328] You put them under your tutsies and it makes some mosquitoes go away.

[2329] Walmart .com.

[2330] Look at that.

[2331] It goes in your shoe.

[2332] This is a thermosel foot pad that somehow another keeps mosquitoes out.

[2333] Maybe not.

[2334] Maybe it was hot.

[2335] Do they have any other colors except for olive?

[2336] I don't know.

[2337] Is that bothering you?

[2338] Are you fashion conscious when it comes to mosquito protection?

[2339] It's just worth looking into you.

[2340] When we lived in Nashville, I would have to wear off for sensitive skin during the day because I would get bit up by mosquitoes dose all the night and people would always tell me that I smelled amazing and I'd say oh it's off you said I just I write all of my tits with magic markers I did I didn't say that but that sounds like a good pickup line what smells better than a fresh magic marker when you pop the top you don't even know why you like it but you love that smell it again right I don't even know what to say anything is it true thermicel makes um I covered myself in ah just making it dark red Does it turn you on that I covered myself in off?

[2341] Stop it.

[2342] Thermicel makes lawn, like those little things that you stick in the ground, like a little lawn lantern, but they keep mosquitoes away.

[2343] It's the same.

[2344] They do that too.

[2345] This is not a thermosel commercial.

[2346] Guys, we have it pretty easy in California with the mosquito.

[2347] Oh, my God, we got it easy with everything.

[2348] Fucking everything except earthquakes.

[2349] We get it easy.

[2350] We don't have weather.

[2351] I don't know.

[2352] I killed a spider in my bedroom in the middle of the night last week, and I broke my curtain on my window.

[2353] Imagine if you were.

[2354] living in Huna, Alaska, to charge you a grizzly bear, you caught him out the window right after you broke your curtain.

[2355] But if you were like screaming from the spider and you broke the curtain and you looked out the window as the bear was in full charge, it would put it all in perspective, wouldn't it?

[2356] It sure would, Joe.

[2357] They'd be like, God damn it, really didn't have a big deal with that spider.

[2358] It was a good life.

[2359] It was a good life.

[2360] Look at Elliot, the 11 -year -old hunter.

[2361] Yeah, he's kind of evaluated.

[2362] He's so, he's fucking owning that shit.

[2363] Yeah, bitches are on planes to go out and visit this kid.

[2364] There's older women that tend towards pedophilia that are right now grooming.

[2365] Oh, stop it.

[2366] Yeah, they just want to wait a few years.

[2367] That's what they do know.

[2368] They don't want to go to jail.

[2369] So the older girls, they just become your friend.

[2370] And they mentor you for a few years.

[2371] And when you hit 18, they just start sucking.

[2372] That's what they...

[2373] I'm just telling you what I hear.

[2374] Tell us more, Joe.

[2375] That's what I hear.

[2376] Because a lot of women are realizing, wrongly so, they get arrested for having sex with these young boys.

[2377] I think they just let it go.

[2378] But once these women...

[2379] do realize there's real consequences to it.

[2380] What they do is just the befriend them.

[2381] They become friends with these kids.

[2382] It's so dark.

[2383] Long game.

[2384] It's not dark.

[2385] It's only dark if it's girl.

[2386] Trust us, right?

[2387] Ben, my right?

[2388] Sure.

[2389] Oh, you're 14.

[2390] The woman's hot.

[2391] You have an issue?

[2392] She's 25.

[2393] She really likes you.

[2394] She teaches you art and crafts.

[2395] She's his very skilled ceramicist.

[2396] Yeah.

[2397] She's really good in making ashtrays and suck in your day.

[2398] Do you like pottery?

[2399] She fosters you.

[2400] I get it.

[2401] I'm in.

[2402] I'm in.

[2403] And on that note Where do we go from here?

[2404] Oh, jeez.

[2405] So many options.

[2406] Home under the desk Into a fetal position?

[2407] It's that Mary Kay LaTerno That girl that she's still with that boy And they had a fake divorce They had to get a divorce Because he's going into the weed business Really?

[2408] Mm -hmm They only got divorced So that she wouldn't be like legally It wouldn't be like a legal issue with him selling weed There's something with him and her He was like protecting her So they got a divorce But they're still together and happy apparently There's been a story like that Coming out like every week right now About like a young teacher Like this I think it's like another one Substitute teacher 24 Accused of sex in two counties With her 17 year old student Okay It's only seven years difference folks Okay They gotta let that go My parents have a huge age gap between them Huge Yeah how many years 80?

[2409] You want to get close Wait, let's play the game.

[2410] Let's play the game.

[2411] How old is Ben's dad?

[2412] Now, but you're not playing by the rules, first of all.

[2413] You get three tries.

[2414] So that was two tries.

[2415] I want to keep going.

[2416] I just get the spiel.

[2417] You get the spiel.

[2418] Ben, Ben, just let him go.

[2419] He's already got two tries.

[2420] This is part of the, look, I've been playing this game my whole life.

[2421] Okay.

[2422] And it's always changing because he gets older.

[2423] Three things.

[2424] I tell you three things.

[2425] One, okay, I'm 31 years old.

[2426] I'm about to turn 32.

[2427] Next week.

[2428] Second thing is, my dad is crazy fucking.

[2429] and old.

[2430] Crazy.

[2431] And the third thing is one person my entire life has ever guessed old enough.

[2432] I mean, and you can go crazy, you're 150.

[2433] Okay.

[2434] Are you so hundred fifty?

[2435] I know.

[2436] All right.

[2437] So it's not a hundred fifty.

[2438] You get a free pass there, Rogan.

[2439] He's not the oldest guy ever.

[2440] Okay.

[2441] I think your dad is 95 years old.

[2442] Okay.

[2443] You're actually spot on.

[2444] Really?

[2445] Yeah.

[2446] He's turning 96 in November.

[2447] He got it on the third try.

[2448] First two tries were 17.

[2449] Legit.

[2450] That disturbs me. Mark Jaffe is 95.

[2451] I hate when to just take a shot in the dark.

[2452] But obviously, you You gave me a lot of parameters to work in.

[2453] That's true, but still generally with those...

[2454] If it was your first guess, people on the parameters, never guess so.

[2455] Never.

[2456] I love that Joe just guessed your dad's proper age.

[2457] And he'll be 96 in November.

[2458] That's incredible.

[2459] Holy shit.

[2460] Yeah, dude.

[2461] What are you?

[2462] What the fuck is going on?

[2463] Who me?

[2464] That was just a lucky guess.

[2465] If I guessed, when you didn't tell me he was crazy old, then it would be impressive.

[2466] See, that's where I feel like you give people...

[2467] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[2468] But you hear him what I'm saying?

[2469] nobody has ever done it yeah yeah but that doesn't matter but you just said it like I got lucky listen but if you if you like that this is why like psychics are a problem they start leading you mental and then they give you a bunch of information you get a bunch of information first then they take a guess like if I told you that I was a psychic and then we went through this whole thing I sense your dad is um he's getting he's getting on but maybe not maybe he isn't maybe he's doing well you're right your dad is yes my dad's really older he's he's he's he's he's getting he's getting on but maybe he's I feel like he's older.

[2470] Am I on to something?

[2471] He'd be like, yes, yes, yes.

[2472] I feel like it's a big issue.

[2473] I feel like he's older than you would admit.

[2474] It's definitely been a thing.

[2475] So I feel like he's, I want to say he's 95.

[2476] Oh, my.

[2477] Oh, my God.

[2478] How did you know that?

[2479] That seems like I would be psychic.

[2480] That's what psychics do, those fucks.

[2481] Bitches.

[2482] Like, I had a friend of mine, and he went to a psyche.

[2483] He's like, dude, this guy knew all about my grandmother.

[2484] I'm like, don't you know about your grandma?

[2485] You know about your grandma, right?

[2486] So this guy knew some shit that you already know.

[2487] Tell this guy to tell you some shit that you don't know You want someone to tell you things you already know That is fucking ridiculous You're gonna set her off Because she's gonna No, no no not a bad way But and I've only I've never experienced it first hand I've never had a psychic or someone With that kind of Energy tell me something that I was like Wait what the fuck did you just say But there's people like you in my life Who I trust Who have had experiences That are unexplainable I have had psychics tell me uh family secrets that i've bend over backwards to try to understand how they could possibly know what they knew and i'm always skeptical but i've definitely had people that told me things that there's fucking no way they could know here's a question though did you give them any answers to other questions before that no none so they just told you right away your uncle's gay and he has a boy that he lives with that he pretends his son but it's really his joe what that fuck i mean like are you serious right without without your interpretation yes Yeah, I had, without that, but something that ridiculous, like that outrageous that they could only guess.

[2488] And you didn't give them any answers to any leading questions before that?

[2489] I thought I heard it on your podcast, maybe not, but there's like a documented history of the military experimenting with, so.

[2490] Experimenting.

[2491] But for years and years and years.

[2492] So they're not going to spend that money if there's no actual question.

[2493] No, that's not necessarily true.

[2494] Because they wanted to find out if there was an answer.

[2495] And the only way you find out is if you have to run some tests.

[2496] And they had a thing called remote viewing.

[2497] And we actually had some remote viewing experts on that TV show that I did for a while called Joe Rogan Questions Everything.

[2498] We sat down with them.

[2499] And I had all these remote viewing guys.

[2500] Boo, at the end of days, it seems a lot like psychics.

[2501] It's like there's no, like they claim to have seen some things and pointed out some things that helped some operations and this and that but it's all top secret whether or not it's true you're never going to know you're never going to know whether they're bullshitting you or something really did go down but i've never seen anybody do it we had two guys try to do it they were supposedly experts in it they couldn't do shit and i think there's a lot of people that um aren't authentic but i that's true there's a lot of money in shenanigans there's a lot of money in palm reading the people that aren't going to charge you the money are probably the people that are actually doing something that is meaningful?

[2502] Maybe, or it might be like a Stephen King book where you drive down the street and see that neon light and it says fortune teller and you go in and it's some lady who sees through your soul and she does and she really does know things and it's just like this is how she gets by with this magic gift, you just pay her 20 bucks a pop and she just tells you crazy shit and you do what you do with that, but she knows and no one ever believe she knows because it doesn't make any sense this fucking lady on Ventura and victory like her, oh my fuck does she know?

[2503] Tell us more Jim.

[2504] How does she know?

[2505] How does she know all this?

[2506] She knows.

[2507] But she does.

[2508] Ventura doesn't intersect with the victory.

[2509] Oh, wow, there's the catch.

[2510] So when you're in the police office, why are you so cool?

[2511] You're telling them, no, I'm telling you the place was there.

[2512] It was real.

[2513] She was a real person.

[2514] I met her.

[2515] The Wilson's had been living on Ventura in victory for 37 years, and they've never moved.

[2516] You get back to the house and it's the house, and it's like, where where did the fortune teller Shack go?

[2517] Are you making fun of you?

[2518] But I know, I want to believe you right now.

[2519] Because we're going to talk about this at the barbecue off mic, buddy.

[2520] So you really believe?

[2521] You believe in psychics?

[2522] I've had too many things that I can't explain that I'm always going to question, but I have.

[2523] Has anybody ever told you something was going to happen and then it happened?

[2524] I don't like that shit.

[2525] And I don't subscribe to that.

[2526] So you shut your mouth.

[2527] I don't subscribe to that.

[2528] Because I don't want someone to tell me my future.

[2529] I think that's unfair and I think that's disrespectful.

[2530] disrespectful is a weird word to use the experiences I've had with these people were with people that have died that I've communicated with whether through dreams or psychedelics and I had questions but I didn't ask them and I waited to see if they would tell me and it's just kind of that sort of setup here's the thing it might be real and it might be that real what real is is so ridiculous that it's almost like you can't bottle it you can't measure it you can't put it on the scale and it only exists in these brief moments and it comes and it goes and you'll never be able to prove it and it just comes and it goes and it makes you think like God I think I really believe that really did happen and no one really knows and everybody just goes about their business but it really did you really did tap in he really did talk to someone who's not there anymore I think whether you did or didn't is is up to your acceptance of the experience and whether it's your ego or something you can't explain and if it brings you comfort that's great for sure if it brings you comfort right I mean that's the same argument for religion you know when people say the religion is bullshit you go well okay but it's bullshit that makes people happy if it makes people happy then it's not bullshit it's bullshit that makes people happy and also controls people and does really terrible things so it's also does it have to do all those things But religion, I mean, there's a lot of, um, it's, it's a very multifaceted subject.

[2531] Isn't it like sugar?

[2532] Sure.

[2533] Sugar kills a lot of people, but it also tastes delicious.

[2534] Yeah, I mean, but it like gets people, but you know what's funny?

[2535] Like, I found out recently that, uh, Scientology, uh, religion is, um, the, one of the main backers for, uh, narcotics anonymous.

[2536] They are?

[2537] Look it up.

[2538] I believe that.

[2539] Tell me I'm wrong.

[2540] let them.

[2541] Well, they definitely don't like psychiatric medicine.

[2542] And, and so that's a really interesting window into manipulation and trying to get people to subscribe to something.

[2543] And here's the thing, there's a lot of fucking shit out there and I don't, I don't know what's right.

[2544] I can just speak to my own experiences and things that I absolutely question with, with so much thought and continue to do so from things that have happened years ago.

[2545] And I just I can't deny how I felt and what I've experienced and I want to keep living and understanding whatever it is if there's a reason why we're here or there isn't and we're just here but I I'm not religious I feel a really I feel interested in religion and some of the things I've experienced over the years being raised Catholic and you're kind of talking about a religious experience Sure, sure.

[2546] I mean, but religion, see, that's where.

[2547] When you say that word, you think that everyone's going to think a specific thing.

[2548] We've had this argument.

[2549] But it doesn't need, did we?

[2550] Are we arguing?

[2551] Because it's not really a religion to me. It's not like some organized.

[2552] What's not a religion?

[2553] The, like, spiritual, energetic exchange of information.

[2554] Because I guess I equate religion, and this is where we can all talk about this.

[2555] Like, I am so, I don't know if I'm right.

[2556] I'm not, like, preaching.

[2557] Well, no one does.

[2558] No one knows if you're wrong either.

[2559] But religion to.

[2560] me is like the Catholicism I was raised on that requires guilt and wrongfulness and sin and money because you go to church and you put your money in the basket every Sunday and I don't I've seen enough and I know enough about pedophilia within the Catholic church that's undeniable you can't fucking deny any of that organization sure I'm talking about organization but it's not how I equate religion it's just the same sure but I think To different people.

[2561] To different people.

[2562] It's not the exact same, that Narcananon.

[2563] It's not.

[2564] Narcotics Anonymous is, so Narcadon is what the Scientology people have.

[2565] It's an organization that promises, promotes, rather, the theories of Scientology founder El Ron Hubbard regarding substance abuse.

[2566] Okay.

[2567] Not the same thing as narcotics.

[2568] Thank you for clarifying.

[2569] Okay, I appreciate that.

[2570] And his, you know, all of El Ron Hubbard stuff, a lot of it came from other psychology.

[2571] right textures and uh lectures rather and texts and books and stuff if you read the rudimentary levels of of elron hubbard's teachings they're like amazing and then they start getting weirder and weirder and you're like wait a minute wait a minute it's it's really interesting and i think that's even he didn't believe in psychics i know what are you saying i don't believe i don't really believe in psychics either i just believe in my experiences i think that there's a difference.

[2572] I think there's a lot of...

[2573] I think you should question everything and then try to understand yourself the best that you can.

[2574] I think unique moments can be unique.

[2575] I think there's things that happen when you think about someone on the phone rings and they can tell you all day long, that's a coincidence man. How often do you think about them in the phone doesn't ring?

[2576] You might be.

[2577] You might be right.

[2578] You might be right.

[2579] But there are some pretty unique moments that I'm not exactly convinced are measurable.

[2580] I don't know if they're measurable.

[2581] I don't know if they're measurable.

[2582] I think those unique moments where you think about someone they text you, I don't, I don't necessarily think that there's been adequate studies done on that.

[2583] I think there's a lot of people that have these contrarian ideologies that they really love to dismiss things like this and they really love to dismiss the potential connections that people have between each other.

[2584] But we know we have connections when we're near each other.

[2585] We know that like some people can just look at you and you look at them and you're like, let's get the fuck out of here.

[2586] like we have like people have weird connections with the other you also know when someone's upset at you and they're not being honest about it you know like there's weird we have weird sort of ways of feeling each other out that don't necessarily fit on a scale they're not quantifiable but they're there you can't measure them but you feel them that's funny i was i'm reading this article about that kind of ties in music to that just talking about you know though so you're talking about our ability to read each other's facial expression emotional expressions, and that's a successful trait.

[2587] You know, that's something that's part of the development of this stuff, right?

[2588] And basically, I'm just getting into it, but this article's just talking about how those, it's just a lot of scientists are trying to understand are people.

[2589] Like, why the fuck is music important?

[2590] Like, this doesn't, you know, why is it such an obsession, a human obsession?

[2591] Well, music is a drug.

[2592] I mean, it certainly is.

[2593] Like, even, like, the other day I was watching Rocky 4, Rocky 4 came on, just out of nowhere, I was flipping to, and songs that I don't even think are good anymore, you know, but I recognize the drug -like effect that, like, you know, one of those rocky songs, the Survivor Rocky songs.

[2594] But it's a combination of the movie and the music.

[2595] Yes.

[2596] It's not just the music.

[2597] There's a visual.

[2598] But sometimes not.

[2599] Like, sometimes just the music.

[2600] You know, like when I run, when I run and if I listen to music, I can go longer.

[2601] Oh, for sure, yeah.

[2602] What's that?

[2603] What the fuck's going on there?

[2604] How come you're not as tired when you're listening to...

[2605] Because you're having an emotional response.

[2606] And you're inspired, though.

[2607] You're inspired by something that was taught to you at a different time.

[2608] The rhythm of the music was ingrained in you at some point.

[2609] I can listen to Motley Crew, kickstart my heart, and I can get up any fucking hill.

[2610] I would imagine if you took an indigenous tribe and played rock music, they'd be like, what the fuck?

[2611] Because they had no idea what it was.

[2612] but maybe they wouldn't because there's there's rhythm and there's a lot of um there's a lot of musical uh tribal contributions to that area of your life i don't know rhythm is a dancer exactly thanks for backing me up we're not off the rails right we're good we're so good i'm not stoned i'm just consistent with what we usually do if that's what you're saying I feel like this is our best one yet Maybe we've said that before I don't know I think we see that every time We haven't done one in a while No it's been over two years No almost two years Oh well shit Shit damn You guys are still the only band I've ever worked with Come on Never worked with a band before I never did shows Never did shows We did a couple shows Those are fun Such a blast They were so much fun Oh my gosh We had a new year's together You are so great Because you You're there But like, people were trying to count down and you weren't done with your bit.

[2613] And you were like, fuck you, I'm not done.

[2614] And then you said, okay, now we can celebrate the new year.

[2615] It was amazing.

[2616] It was so great.

[2617] Well, it's in the middle of a bit.

[2618] People are like, well, it's time.

[2619] That's time.

[2620] It's like, I missed it by 10 seconds, folks.

[2621] Hang in there.

[2622] It was great.

[2623] Well, we did the end of the world pod or the show.

[2624] That was really fun.

[2625] December 21st, 2012 was the big one.

[2626] That was the first one we did.

[2627] We did the end of the world one with Stanhope and Joe.

[2628] Was it New Year's, though?

[2629] It wasn't New Year.

[2630] No, I was December 21st.

[2631] It was the end of the Mayan calendar.

[2632] Yeah, that's right.

[2633] Yeah, we planned that one now years in advance.

[2634] Yeah, we knew we were going to do.

[2635] Stan Hope and I talked about doing that, like, because he got tired of me talking about the Mayan calendar.

[2636] Because he was like, let's fucking promise we're going to do a show.

[2637] December 21st.

[2638] I'm like, let's do it.

[2639] Let's get Diaz on board.

[2640] And, you know, I met you guys.

[2641] I'm like, let's have music.

[2642] Let's have a fucking crazy end of the world.

[2643] December 24.

[2644] And then the life went on for five more years.

[2645] Like, everything was fine.

[2646] Hey, thanks for bringing us on.

[2647] That was a lot of fun.

[2648] It was fun for us, too.

[2649] It was fun.

[2650] How did you get the Alex Jones one to be 9 -11, 911?

[2651] I had to plan it out.

[2652] I had to do, I had to fit some podcasts in.

[2653] I had to do, like, extra ones the week before, just so I could get to number 9 -11 with Alex.

[2654] Yeah, that sounds like a long seat.

[2655] Well, I could have had him on earlier, and I would have definitely had him on again for 9 -11, but having him on the first time for 9 -11.

[2656] And to this day, that's our best.

[2657] biggest podcast by really far by maybe five million downloads holy fuck yeah but here's the conspiracy right is that right am I saying correctly what is the actual number it was like probably 16 now I didn't check in the last two or three days but okay so 16 million down here's what's crazy um it never charted on iTunes the iTunes charts magically went down while the Alex Jones podcast was in the queue and they stayed down for over a week conspiracy theory and then when it came back up, podcasts that got way less downloads than Alex's were rated much higher than his.

[2658] And they had happened before and after his.

[2659] His was the only podcast that was left out of the ratings loop.

[2660] Like, for sure, it would have been the number one podcast in the country.

[2661] It was the number one podcast we did by a mile.

[2662] And I've had the number one podcast before.

[2663] It's like the number one podcast episode.

[2664] That was more than five million downloads more than any other podcasts I had before.

[2665] It's crazy.

[2666] So it's for sure probably would have been number one.

[2667] It's a lot of downloads.

[2668] Unless they had like one of those serial episodes or something that came out that week.

[2669] Ooh, S -Town.

[2670] So there you go.

[2671] And that's, it's very likely that someone's trying to hold Alex Jones back.

[2672] And that just stokes his fucking fire.

[2673] They don't understand.

[2674] It's the stricane effect.

[2675] Can't stoke the fire of Alex Jones.

[2676] Even Megan Kelly's fucked now.

[2677] Her show's going down the toilet.

[2678] What happened in the aftermath?

[2679] Here's the problem.

[2680] Here's the problem.

[2681] Megan Kelly was a Fox News person.

[2682] She left Fox News to go to NBC.

[2683] NBC is thought of as CNBC, which is thought of as fake news by these right -wing Trump bands.

[2684] What would you call them?

[2685] Trumpets.

[2686] Trumpers.

[2687] So as soon as she goes over there, they're not going to listen to her.

[2688] And then to the liberals, she's Fox News.

[2689] So they're not interested in her either.

[2690] And then she does this podcast with Alex Jones, or this interview rather with Alex Jones.

[2691] And in the interview with Alex Jones, she says, I'm not going to paint you out as a monster.

[2692] I'm going to give you a fair.

[2693] She's saying all these things like she's going to throw softballs this way.

[2694] I want people to get to know you.

[2695] And he releases all that.

[2696] He's like, hey, this is that person.

[2697] And then the ratings just keep plummeting.

[2698] You got to, if you want to be an ice princess, you got to be on Fox News.

[2699] Full ice.

[2700] If you want to sell guns, you want to be a second amendment per pronate with fucking cold blue steel eyes and smooth, shiny legs.

[2701] and nice shoes and tiny skirts, you've got to be on Fox News.

[2702] How do you get smooth, shiny legs?

[2703] Shave them.

[2704] You've got to shave them down constantly, all day long.

[2705] Yeah, you can't just wear pants.

[2706] You can't just wear pants.

[2707] Yeah, you have illegal immigrants.

[2708] How do you do it, Ben?

[2709] It's just kind of a natural thing for me. Oh, really?

[2710] You're hairless in the legs?

[2711] Somebody's got to be like that.

[2712] There's got to be somebody out there with no leg hair.

[2713] I'm sure it happens.

[2714] It's called.

[2715] Purity.

[2716] Is that what it's called?

[2717] Sure is, Ben.

[2718] It's funny, you brought it up.

[2719] One day we're all going to have no hair and they're going to look back in pictures of us.

[2720] They're going to go, what the fuck were they doing?

[2721] What is that bald human race?

[2722] Facial hair and shit.

[2723] Everyone looks the same.

[2724] No eyebrows.

[2725] I really think that's the future.

[2726] I think the future is those aliens from close encounters.

[2727] I think the reason why we have those archetypal images in our head is just we know that's where we're going.

[2728] Have you ever talked to Paul Hellyer or looked at his stuff at all?

[2729] Who's that?

[2730] He's like the Canadian alien dude.

[2731] They're all the same.

[2732] but he was he was part of the government and he talks oh the government well then for sure he's telling the truth he specifically talks about the like different types of aliens oh well that makes him even more come on joe for sure with no evidence he definitely would tell us all about these all different kinds of aliens yeah you should look into it you might want to have i have unfortunately and i'm not saying there's no aliens i don't know him but i know the whole is it because you're an alien and you don't want people to know it's okay we accept you for who you are.

[2733] The problem is there's a business in telling people that you know about the aliens.

[2734] Canada's ex -defense minister.

[2735] Aliens would give us more tech if we'd stop wars.

[2736] All right, let's play this.

[2737] I want to hear this.

[2738] What's that?

[2739] Oh, it's not, but it's on RT.

[2740] But why is he the one dude?

[2741] He was on RT.

[2742] He was a special dude.

[2743] Why don't I talk to other people?

[2744] But it says on RT, proof of aliens' presence overwhelming.

[2745] No, that's just a picture of it.

[2746] That's just a screenshot.

[2747] Oh, I see.

[2748] But he was on, right?

[2749] So he's got to be a video of it, no?

[2750] there's many videos of Paul Hellyer I've watched them.

[2751] Do you buy it when you listen to him talk?

[2752] It makes me question.

[2753] I'd like to hear...

[2754] I'm interested.

[2755] I like to hear his voice to see if my crazy radar goes off.

[2756] Just give me a little piece.

[2757] Tell us, Wiseman.

[2758] Tell us Wiseman what you feel.

[2759] You got two different shit playing.

[2760] Jamie's a tabber.

[2761] Well, because I know that they are.

[2762] As a matter of fact, they've been visiting our planet for thousands of years.

[2763] And one of the cases that would interest you most, if you give me two or three minutes to answer, is during the Cold War, 1961, there were about 50 UFOs in formation flying south from Russia to the across Europe.

[2764] And the Supreme Allied commander was very concerned and about ready to press the panic button when they turned around and went back over the North Pole.

[2765] So they decided to do an investigation.

[2766] And they investigated for three years, and they decided that, with absolute certainty, that four species, four different species, at least, had been visiting this planet for thousands of years.

[2767] So we have a long history of UFOs, and of course, there's been a lot more activity in the last few decades since we invented the atomic bomb, and they're very concerned about.

[2768] about that and the fact that we might use it again.

[2769] And because the whole cosmos is a unity and it affects not just us but other people in the cosmos, they're very much afraid that we might be stupid enough to start using atomic weapons again.

[2770] And this would be very bad for us and for them as well.

[2771] So no serious scientists has ever publicly confirmed evidence of an encounter with extraterrestrials.

[2772] Why would scientists not confirm the facts if they exist?

[2773] exist?

[2774] I'm afraid they must go out of their weight not to find out because if they did, you know, even 10 % of the amount of research I've done in the last eight years, they would be as convinced as I am.

[2775] I mean, they could do it even faster.

[2776] It might take them a little longer when they didn't have a military background, but there are so many wonderful books that tell these stories and they've been authenticated.

[2777] The sightings have been authenticated by more than the one witness and also by radar.

[2778] Okay.

[2779] This is the same horseshit.

[2780] They've been authenticated by witnesses.

[2781] That doesn't mean anything.

[2782] There's no real video.

[2783] There's no real photographs.

[2784] Nothing looks good.

[2785] A lot of people were talking about it, but when you think about how many human beings there are, there's 320 million plus in America.

[2786] How many of them are crazy?

[2787] At least 1%.

[2788] That's 3 ,200 ,000 crazy people.

[2789] How many of them really believe what they're saying?

[2790] At least half.

[2791] So you've got a hundred.

[2792] You got a hundred.

[2793] a lot of fucking crazy people.

[2794] Well, this is one video, so I've watched a couple of his, and it's just interesting to think about in terms of like, we're here.

[2795] It's all interesting to think about, but as soon as someone starts talking like that, he says, they've been authenticated, there was more than one witness, that means nothing.

[2796] Sure.

[2797] People are full shit.

[2798] You just, I saw something.

[2799] It doesn't mean anything.

[2800] You might have.

[2801] You might not have.

[2802] But if he's 100 % all in, and he hasn't had a UFO experience himself that he's talking about, well, then he seems gullible.

[2803] Totally fair.

[2804] I talk to a lot of those people.

[2805] I talked to those people that had been I talked to people that had implants pulled out of their body I talked to people that were experts I have seen oh oh it's gone what is it saying you seen one?

[2806] He said he's seen one well it's something that gives me a lot of thought I don't know I haven't seen one but I'm curious to know but what he just said there did not impress me because he said that multiple people had seen it like more than one person had confirmed it that doesn't mean anything like you could have five guys that lie that doesn't mean they might tell the truth i don't think so italians call them ufos my people do they yeah ufos yeah i've never heard that it's a joke oh wow two in a row how'd i do harry potter was a fail but i came back around it was an ufo are we still friends yes 100 % it's not to dismiss it's not to dismiss the possibility of UFOs it's just that you got to really be careful with how people talk about of sure you got to be you know if someone starts talking that they know something and they well that's that's one video i've watched a few of his videos and they were really interesting he was he was speaking before canadian congress talking about this and um i've watched a lot of it in its entirety it's just worth thinking about that's all i don't know what the truth is i just but i i do think sure please yeah always just the fact that he has a lot of videos out there makes me wonder because that means that he's making a living doing this or this is a gig this is a thing he does.

[2807] Not when you're speaking before the Canadian Congress.

[2808] Of course if he does a bunch of these other interviews as well that allows him to speak in front of that's his thing his thing is I'm the guy who knows everything about UFOs.

[2809] Right.

[2810] But if you were talking to scientists they would say, show us your evidence.

[2811] Right.

[2812] Always.

[2813] There's nothing.

[2814] That's the thing about these guys.

[2815] They all have stories and no one has any evidence.

[2816] Yeah.

[2817] I mean, I don't but it feels good to think that they're out there right fuck yeah i want to know i want to know stuff i mean like look at all the shit that we have and we're here and all the things that we uh all the resources that we use and we're one planet in a universe full of other planets that's all there it is way up there i'm not afraid to say that i'm i'm curious i think everybody is and i think people generally it feels like a normal thing to be like yeah they're fucking out there but what i think is hard to I don't have hard evidence.

[2818] What's hard to accept is that they're communicating with us and only certain people like Paul Heller, no. Well, maybe he does know, and maybe he has seen something, but maybe he's full of shit.

[2819] The problem is, if you haven't seen it and I haven't, or at least I don't think I have, and you're talking about these things, how much time you spend thinking and talking about them, like it gets to become almost like a pathology.

[2820] Why are you so invested in something that you don't even know is real?

[2821] But it becomes a thing that people are into, like they're into baseball scores.

[2822] or they're into bowling.

[2823] They get into UFOs.

[2824] They get into it.

[2825] And then they start, I mean, this dude's obviously making a career out of it.

[2826] He's out there traveling.

[2827] I don't know that.

[2828] I mean, that's something to investigate upon this conversation.

[2829] But it makes, it's made me think for years.

[2830] Like, I've seen some Paul Hellyer videos and I'm just like, wow, okay.

[2831] And it makes me think, that's all.

[2832] Maybe.

[2833] And I'm curious.

[2834] I will always be curious about aliens and psychics and all the shit.

[2835] It's so controversial.

[2836] I'm not superlative in that way where it's like, yes or no. I just don't know.

[2837] I don't know you know.

[2838] I'd love to keep learning.

[2839] I would too.

[2840] But I think that with guys like this, when you're talking about a subject that this mercurial, this is such a difficult subject.

[2841] I think it's very important to only talk about the actual facts, like what we know or what we don't know.

[2842] If he wants to talk about his own personal experience, that's one thing.

[2843] But when you start talking about stories that you're heard, like, okay.

[2844] People are full of shit from the beginning of time.

[2845] I mean, telling stupid stories about werewolves and fucking vampires.

[2846] I think that's how a lot of damage is done, too.

[2847] it's like it's all derivative passed down like oh i heard this from this and this and this but you weren't there so you don't know you know it's like i'm reading this book about our brains and how our recollection of a memory of memories and like eyewitnesses are usually inaccurate because you're you don't really remember like you think you did and your brain lies to you and tells you that you saw something a certain way right and and even that like i don't know it that's that's very important for people to know absolutely Absolutely.

[2848] A lot of people out there that think their memories are super accurate.

[2849] Well, and this ties into being wrong.

[2850] This ties into being like, I didn't see it the way that I think I did, and I might have made a mistake, and I'm sorry.

[2851] You know, like, that's okay.

[2852] That's important, too, because I think a lot of times when you have some big statement about something that you believe in, or like, if you want to get down to having some sort of trial of this or that, and you say, I remember it just like this.

[2853] Right.

[2854] And then you get dramatic and emotional and try to sell it.

[2855] You're selling it like you're running for Congress.

[2856] It's, it's, $40 ,000 a day.

[2857] Frightening.

[2858] It really is.

[2859] It is.

[2860] People that are trying to convince people.

[2861] I mean, that's one of the reasons why being a president's so crazy, because you're basically like trying to trick people and they're liking you.

[2862] You're trying to be charismatic, and that's what sells the most.

[2863] Do presidents ever say, I made a mistake?

[2864] Do they ever say, I'm sorry, I messed up?

[2865] I'm sure so.

[2866] Well, you must have.

[2867] Publicly?

[2868] I don't know.

[2869] I think there's moments.

[2870] I don't think it's like a...

[2871] Probably nice.

[2872] That'd be really interesting.

[2873] It's going to happen to happen.

[2874] It's going to have to happen someday.

[2875] Someday.

[2876] Sing it, Joe.

[2877] I don't know which one that is.

[2878] Can't sound like that.

[2879] I bet you can't.

[2880] I think you sound great.

[2881] I can't.

[2882] You sound great.

[2883] No, you guys sound great.

[2884] What?

[2885] Come on.

[2886] Why don't you guys sing us a song?

[2887] Do you want to do that?

[2888] When I rem this up, we've been doing for a three hours.

[2889] hours and 20 minutes we should sing a song and then we should go make some food started a little late yeah but it's uh 520 yeah we it's uh we're 245 oh really oh why did i think we started at uh 2 o 'clock we didn't oh we did another podcast afterward that's i mean we did two we like broke it in half ben what do you want to play whatever so we have solo records coming out oh shit do you guys practice together with your solo shit?

[2890] We did.

[2891] We did because we support each other.

[2892] We sure did.

[2893] And do.

[2894] My record comes out August 11th.

[2895] That's my birthday.

[2896] Is it really?

[2897] Shut up!

[2898] What, Joe?

[2899] This is like an omen.

[2900] You want to come to my release on August 10th in L .A.?

[2901] Yes.

[2902] You are welcome.

[2903] All right.

[2904] Awesome.

[2905] Shit, I don't have a release date.

[2906] I've got to get my shit together.

[2907] Ben made a beautiful record.

[2908] Ben made a fucking awesome record.

[2909] I'm smoking to my sweet nuts scheduling shit.

[2910] Blowing off meetings.

[2911] Listen, man. I just need my music, man. Let's play your song first.

[2912] Oh, geez.

[2913] You want to do that?

[2914] Yeah, let's do it.

[2915] A lot of pressure.

[2916] Getting deep here.

[2917] I couldn't.

[2918] I'm not ready.

[2919] I couldn't possibly.

[2920] Oh, you're not going to play on it.

[2921] No, I'm going to sing.

[2922] Okay, here we go.

[2923] Okay.

[2924] You can do the instrumental part.

[2925] What's this called?

[2926] It's called Everlasting Peace.

[2927] Oh, shit.

[2928] Oh, shit.

[2929] Sottnamb.

[2930] Yeah, yeah.

[2931] Some days I wake up in a sweat, bodies wet from the tension, baby.

[2932] With all these cheap thrills from tangible achievements weighing heavy on my mind.

[2933] But time has shown me you're the only one who could bring me everlasting peace.

[2934] Time has shown me You're the only one who can bring me Everlasting peace It's like a path I'll walk Lift me up like daytime talk Like arena rock And I sing it to you Soft and sweet and straight from the hearts There's no questions that Time has shown me You're the only one who can bring me everlasting peace Time has shown me You're the only one who can bring me Everlasting peace There'd be a violin solo But we don't have the violin right there We'll skip that part I say it till I don't mean it Don't want to compromise Don't want to lose myself in some day's kind but I know you're the only everlasting peace you're the only thing peace everlasting peace you guys have such a good sound together it's two people that have been working together for a long time you guys know each other's sounds I might have messed that up a little bit for Ben I'm sorry that make a difference How's you mess it up?

[2935] Oh, you know, it's new stuff.

[2936] It's like, I'm just going to shut my mouth.

[2937] Set that mouth and open it up with singing.

[2938] Okay.

[2939] What are you going to do now?

[2940] This is my single off my new record that comes out on your birthday.

[2941] August 11th.

[2942] It's called Ghost in My Bed.

[2943] There's a music video out for it now if anyone wants to see.

[2944] Where does someone get that?

[2945] On YouTube.

[2946] Is that okay?

[2947] It's on YouTube.

[2948] YouTube.

[2949] And coincidentally, It is KCRW's tune of the day today.

[2950] Oh, I don't even know how that was possible.

[2951] It's a little loud.

[2952] Okay, I'm going to tune it up like a real professional.

[2953] You tune it up with your phone?

[2954] Oh, yeah.

[2955] Really?

[2956] Yes, Joseph.

[2957] They have these things that tune the instruments.

[2958] What is it on your phone?

[2959] Like, I'm totally ignorant to this.

[2960] What is this?

[2961] Do you see it?

[2962] It's like a...

[2963] It's a microphone.

[2964] Yeah, tracking the frequency.

[2965] Right.

[2966] What is it called?

[2967] It's just an app.

[2968] It's a guitar tune.

[2969] There's hundreds.

[2970] of them.

[2971] Oh, wow.

[2972] There's a bunch of them, huh?

[2973] Here, what are you singing right now?

[2974] Wow, and it works off of the microphone of your phone, the same way one would work, like in a studio?

[2975] Is this okay?

[2976] Like, sonically?

[2977] It could be in a better situation.

[2978] It's pretty good stuff.

[2979] Should I give it another angle?

[2980] No, that's fine.

[2981] That's fine.

[2982] All right, okay.

[2983] You want to do this?

[2984] Wait, should I get my pick, or should I go fingers?

[2985] You get your pick?

[2986] Get your pick?

[2987] Get your pick, like a real...

[2988] Do you always have a pick with you?

[2989] Are you?

[2990] Are you always have a pick with you, constantly?

[2991] Because I'm playing all fingers these days.

[2992] Are you sure?

[2993] There might be one?

[2994] Oh, there are.

[2995] Jesus.

[2996] Ben, get it.

[2997] Are you sure?

[2998] I'm just got a pigs, bro.

[2999] I'm done with them.

[3000] Stomping around my stuff.

[3001] KCRW song of the day.

[3002] Suzanne Santo goes to my bed.

[3003] Oh, thanks for a little.

[3004] It's played, Joe.

[3005] Yeah, thanks for having us.

[3006] My pleasure.

[3007] Yours of the shit.

[3008] I took my headphones off.

[3009] I hope I didn't, like, ruin the whole thing.

[3010] No, it was awesome.

[3011] It was beautiful.

[3012] Sorry.

[3013] Perfect.

[3014] Don't say a word.

[3015] Everyone's fine.

[3016] That was fun.

[3017] Should we do more?

[3018] Should we go eat?

[3019] It's up to you, dude.

[3020] It's up to you guys.

[3021] What do you want to do?

[3022] I want to do one more song?

[3023] Wait, well, here's the thing.

[3024] We're going to be on a TV show.

[3025] Did we tell you about that?

[3026] On August 3rd, we're on a show on TBS called The Guest Book.

[3027] And we wrote a bunch of music for it, and we are on every episode of this half -hour comedy.

[3028] What?

[3029] Every episode?

[3030] Yeah, we play, I play the male lady who delivers the mail and Ben plays the exterminator.

[3031] Wait a minute.

[3032] You guys, you put music and you're acting on the show too?

[3033] We got paid as sag actors.

[3034] What is the show?

[3035] What is it about?

[3036] You know, so there was the show called My Name is Earl, you know that show?

[3037] Yes, love it.

[3038] Okay, so the guy, Greg Garcia created Greg.

[3039] Joe, by the way, Greg Garcia loves you and you should have him on the show.

[3040] He's amazing.

[3041] I love that guy.

[3042] He's so wonderful.

[3043] We talked about doing something.

[3044] I had a meeting with him a long time ago.

[3045] You should have him on the show.

[3046] I can help fucking make that connection.

[3047] So I can Ben Dorothy.

[3048] Okay, I would love to.

[3049] I like that guy.

[3050] Yeah, he's a great dude.

[3051] So what happened?

[3052] So they needed a band.

[3053] I guess they were looking at kind of like a spur -the -moment thing.

[3054] Greg was like, okay, I'm thinking there's going to be a band that closes out every episode, kind of transitions between the Strip Club.

[3055] The episodes.

[3056] And a friend of ours, oh, my God.

[3057] Oh, shit.

[3058] That's the show.

[3059] Oh, my God.

[3060] Michael Rappapaport, Jamie, Presley.

[3061] This is crazy.

[3062] Damn.

[3063] There's a trailer now, Ben.

[3064] Oh, love him so much.

[3065] Did you guys work with Jamie?

[3066] Yeah, one scene.

[3067] We got to do a scene at AA with her.

[3068] She's so nice.

[3069] It was really fun.

[3070] She's awesome.

[3071] I did a terrible movie with her way back for the day.

[3072] They never went anywhere.

[3073] What was it called?

[3074] I don't remember, but she was super nice.

[3075] Oh, Danny Pouty.

[3076] He's best.

[3077] Whoa.

[3078] What the fuck is this?

[3079] The guest book premieres off.

[3080] August 3rd.

[3081] And it's on TBS.

[3082] Go watch it, folks.

[3083] Look, he's got all the things I want.

[3084] Weirdos in a log cabin.

[3085] Boom.

[3086] We're going to play a song that didn't make it on the show, but we don't have to.

[3087] Hey, what the fuck happened in that song, Punk Kid?

[3088] Like, where is that at?

[3089] What's the status of that song?

[3090] That's out like Honey Honey's fourth record when we're ready to make it.

[3091] Yeah, we got a great song.

[3092] And that song, like the riff from that song was on my Denver comedy special Rocky Mountain High.

[3093] Thank you.

[3094] Yeah.

[3095] My pleasure.

[3096] Thank you.

[3097] But I love that song.

[3098] That song was fucking.

[3099] great like what happened it well on our last record it was a snafu there was some kind of quasi I think this is I think this is label politics a little bit like it was a little more rock and roll and it wasn't as Americana and it just it was our choice to keep it off eventually like it turned around and around but we this was a song that we this was a couple years ago we came out here to work with a great dude named Kifis Chiancia or Siancia and we just did a set and there was that and a couple other songs that we did that were ours we owned this music it was one of the things where we owned it and they didn't want to pay for it they didn't want to so we would like if we put it on a record they would have owned it and not have like so we were like fuck we put all this effort into this song we love this song but it was just that that thing where like we had to fight for it and it's a great song and it's not going anywhere it'll it'll come it'll come out eventually hopefully people don't know about that song though well you did that song bought our alon meth Do you guys play it somewhere?

[3100] We played it here.

[3101] Oh, that's right.

[3102] They played it here.

[3103] And look at you in your pink shirts.

[3104] Damn, that's back in the dizzay.

[3105] I know.

[3106] Lost those glasses.

[3107] It never made it on anything else other than that YouTube video?

[3108] Is it on anything else where people can listen to it?

[3109] Well, we put it out.

[3110] People downloaded it.

[3111] We used it to raise money for this vehicle.

[3112] We could buy a car.

[3113] But we never put it down on it.

[3114] It's not a Spotify.

[3115] So only you guys own it.

[3116] Yeah.

[3117] So if we played it, it wouldn't like trip any alarm.

[3118] alarms or anything, right?

[3119] No, you can play it anytime you want.

[3120] Let's play that shit right now.

[3121] Go cook.

[3122] Can you find it?

[3123] I can play the version they played for sure.

[3124] Let me see if I can find it.

[3125] Not the version they played here.

[3126] Let's see if there's another version of it that you can find, like the pure studio version because it's so good.

[3127] That was a cool one.

[3128] What's the, uh, I bet we could.

[3129] I love that song.

[3130] That was like one of my favorite songs.

[3131] And when your new album came out, I was like, where's the song?

[3132] Where's the punk kid?

[3133] It was a big debate.

[3134] It was a real thing.

[3135] Those motherfuckers.

[3136] Well, that's okay.

[3137] Like, you know, you just got to keep forging ahead and figuring out how to maintain your integrity and also like what you've worked for and that was something we didn't, we just didn't want to give it up.

[3138] We didn't want someone else to be like, yeah, we own this.

[3139] Well, I'm glad you didn't, but I can't imagine how you guys do it because if that was me and I, like I found out that my jokes, like a bit that I did that I worked really long and hard on all of a sudden if I wanted to put it on a special, someone else is going to own it without even paying me for it.

[3140] I'd be like, well, fuck you, man. That's crazy.

[3141] This is why I'm making my own furniture from my apartment.

[3142] Do you find it anywhere, Jane?

[3143] I'm happy.

[3144] I haven't downloaded, but it's not on this phone or this computer.

[3145] It's not another computer.

[3146] Hold on, y 'all.

[3147] What is it on Spotify?

[3148] Is that what you guys said?

[3149] They don't have it anywhere.

[3150] That's why it was only doing.

[3151] Ben, I think I've got it in my iTunes.

[3152] Confusion.

[3153] Oh, here it is.

[3154] I got it right here.

[3155] What can we do?

[3156] How do I send it to you?

[3157] You can plug it in there.

[3158] You got an ox?

[3159] No, it's one of those news.

[3160] Stupid ass.

[3161] You have a domble, though, guys?

[3162] God damn.

[3163] fucking iPhones.

[3164] Android phones have an ox.

[3165] Don't you have an iPhone, Joe?

[3166] Yep.

[3167] You have an eardrop faster.

[3168] Okay.

[3169] But I've seriously considered going Android several times.

[3170] There's a new one, this new Google Pixel 2 is coming out, and then also the new Galaxy S8.

[3171] It doesn't set on fire?

[3172] No. The Note 8 is the one.

[3173] The Note 7 was the one that went on fire.

[3174] Okay.

[3175] Galaxy 7 never went on fire.

[3176] It's funny, it's all over the airports, too.

[3177] It's like, oh, just so you know.

[3178] Yeah.

[3179] So the Galaxy S8 is dope.

[3180] I've thought about that one.

[3181] And then the Galaxy Note 8, which is coming out soon, is pretty killer, too.

[3182] They're just as good as iPhones now.

[3183] It's just getting off the Apple Tit is the issue.

[3184] You know, the Apple Tit that connects you to iPods and iTunes.

[3185] It's all makes your life more convenient.

[3186] But I'm on the Google Tit, too.

[3187] I love Google.

[3188] It's good.

[3189] I use it all the time.

[3190] It's a juicy.

[3191] It's like at least a D -cup.

[3192] There's so much information.

[3193] Yeah.

[3194] I mean, if I had to choose between a company that I rely on more, if I could just use a Google phone, but I could still use Google.

[3195] Right.

[3196] Well, you've got to go with Google.

[3197] Right?

[3198] That's giant.

[3199] I use that way more than I use anything.

[3200] It's like Googling things.

[3201] I mean, who doesn't?

[3202] You need to know shit.

[3203] I need to know shit.

[3204] Like, what is my shoe size and European size?

[3205] Very big is the answer.

[3206] Very big.

[3207] If you wanted to order some shoes from overseas.

[3208] Do you have pancakes his feet as well?

[3209] I do.

[3210] Yeah, I'm Sasquatch feet.

[3211] Really?

[3212] Big ass white feet.

[3213] Well, I could probably outfoot you, right?

[3214] Because my feet are slender.

[3215] Damn.

[3216] Yeah, I've been on this trail running kick.

[3217] Oh, yeah.

[3218] I roam with those feet shoes, those five -finger shoes.

[3219] Those are fun.

[3220] People, I've never seen a foot product generate so much hate.

[3221] We don't think you can't handle it.

[3222] Why do they hate it?

[3223] Why do they hate it?

[3224] Why do they don't like the way it looks?

[3225] How do you feel about it?

[3226] I don't give a fuck.

[3227] I wear a fanny pack.

[3228] So does Polly Shore.

[3229] I saw Polly Shore at the grocery store the other day.

[3230] Don't love me in with him and make me get rid of my...

[3231] I'm just kidding.

[3232] He had a fanny pack.

[3233] Sorry.

[3234] A lot of people wearing him now.

[3235] And he gave me the stink guy a little bit.

[3236] I'm sorry.

[3237] Because he knew you were to church.

[3238] He didn't know that you knew.

[3239] How do I feel when I wear them?

[3240] Is that you're saying?

[3241] They're great.

[3242] How's your body feel?

[3243] It's hard because I'm running Rocky Hills and I'm running a lot of miles.

[3244] So like three miles on these like very steep.

[3245] Rocky Hills sounds like a great porn star name.

[3246] It does.

[3247] A girl with ridiculous tits.

[3248] Just, Jesus, what the fuck is going on there?

[3249] A little double penetration on Rocky Hills.

[3250] Giant cans, broken out of a shirt.

[3251] Jesus.

[3252] That's Rocky Hills.

[3253] But it's tricky.

[3254] Today I ran them in like Under Armour Trail shoes, which I got to be honest, I kind of like better.

[3255] Do you love Under Armour?

[3256] Do you just run full on?

[3257] I do.

[3258] They have a lot of great shit.

[3259] I'm wearing their sneakers.

[3260] They're one of the most eco -athletic lines.

[3261] Really?

[3262] Yeah.

[3263] Well, they're also one of the very few big companies that support hunting.

[3264] They have a whole hunting line.

[3265] And that that means that's a bold choice.

[3266] Under Armour, if you want to endorse Honey, honey, honey, we are willing and ready.

[3267] Big fan, big fan.

[3268] Under Armour, the gauntlet's been thrown down.

[3269] For rock and roll, are you ready to expand?

[3270] Stageware, holy shit.

[3271] Stageware.

[3272] I've always wanted to have track suits for the whole band, like, when we're loading in because we have to, like, do a lot of work.

[3273] But let me be honest.

[3274] If you get a track suit, don't you have to get Adidas?

[3275] I mean like Royal Tenenbaum sign That's fine You definitely have to be gone a little hip hop with it A little bit I'm slurring my words Some valour I can't even speak properly You're fine you're fine I just I bet you play pool real good right now though Right let's fucking do this Let's throw it down We played pool earlier And I did not play my best But you know what was bizarre It's because I want to beat Joe so badly Maybe you weren't giving us the full juice We came down to it two games Yeah we were right down ball to ball But you played so much better than us.

[3276] Oh, here we go.

[3277] That's because he wears a glove.

[3278] Oh my God, this is punk kid.

[3279] Good night, ladies and gentlemen.

[3280] Honey, Honey.

[3281] Suzanne Santo, new album, August 11.

[3282] You were young.

[3283] I bet you were a punk kid and you were young.

[3284] Rashing your cut, tearing shit up.

[3285] I'll bet you were a punk.

[3286] Because it takes one to no one.

[3287] Yeah, I bet you were punk.

[3288] This sounds like shit.

[3289] what's that hold on kill it that's okay the audio quality is terrible it got compressed when I sent it I texted it to myself oh yeah that sounds like that shit was coming out of a toilet bowl well just you know it could sound better than that it sounds way better than I realized I had to stop it I was like there's no way I could have that represent that song there's no way to get it through a computer you have to text it to yourself I'm trying to get it and it's not my phone's not connecting to computer right now I don't know why or I can't like he's he texted it's got to be complicated if Jamie can't get it this is impressive impressively complicated to get it that was a nice like fade out too though I was trying to email it would have been perfect the song wasn't attaching in the email I don't know there's lots of different things so there's no other way to get it I don't you guys have a way that you can tell people that they can get like if someone says hey Ben I heard your punk kid song is really awesome where can I go about hearing that I'll let him know yeah Ben where is it where is it Ben we can put it on sound cloud we can do that right now we didn't do that right now before we got on the podcast was like organize our social media because our honey honey website looks like our records just coming out and it came out three years ago but we're working on that this is part of the DIY conundrum well it's also part of the promoting artist conundrum because like the the thing that makes you a really good artist also makes you shit at promoting it's hard yeah it's a lot but different things that's what's cool about getting teams around you like right but then they get obsessed with you and they get weird.

[3290] No, good to your art. No, honestly, it's you having us on your thing, dude.

[3291] Thank you so much.

[3292] My pleasure.

[3293] I get this game changes.

[3294] You guys can figure out how to get one of your favorite fucking songs online so I can play it.

[3295] I'll be a shit.

[3296] Damn it.

[3297] I feel like it's time to go barbecue now.

[3298] We're definitely going to go barbecue.

[3299] We're just going to play the song, then we're going to barbecue.

[3300] Oh, hell yeah.

[3301] What else to say?

[3302] Vegas this weekend, Friday night.

[3303] I'll be at the Ka Theater at the MGM with.

[3304] Tony Hinchcliffe, it's where they do the Cirque de Soleil.

[3305] How fun!

[3306] Are you going to get up in there with your leotard on?

[3307] They put me in a diaper and they connect wires to the diaper and they fly me through the store.

[3308] I feel like people will pay a lot of money to see that.

[3309] No, they have this crazy setup back there.

[3310] We don't use it.

[3311] We just use the flat stage, but the setup's insane.

[3312] I want to go.

[3313] Can I go?

[3314] Fuck yeah.

[3315] There's all these hydrologs and shit.

[3316] Oh, it's your birthday weekend.

[3317] Oh, shit.

[3318] Is your birthday weekend?

[3319] Oh, it's like someone's going to Vegas.

[3320] Someone needs to go to the UFC.

[3321] What are we doing for?

[3322] for the birthday UFC, Saturday night We're gonna get in Vegas If you and I go to Vegas It's gonna be chubby What do you mean We're gonna make lots of money Oh you guys gamble Of course So we have no solution so far This is insane That's okay I've never heard of such a thing We were talking about mystique earlier No it gets compressed It shouldn't though Yeah the texting did it If you can It wasn't attached in the email When I tried to put my email in there So I didn't I bailed and went to a different route This is not gonna work People are going to find it, those hackers.

[3323] They're going to send Jamie dickpicks all day.

[3324] Don't do it to them.

[3325] Come on, you want to see it.

[3326] You could just forward them to me. Have you gotten dickpicks before?

[3327] Yeah, definitely.

[3328] Now, when you get them, you're like, really?

[3329] Well, it depends on if I'm into it or not.

[3330] But there's a great dick pick, which is the actual, it's...

[3331] You got to dress them up.

[3332] Dress up the dicks.

[3333] I'm going to send us to dry.

[3334] Hats.

[3335] You see that one that dude that turned his dick into a dragon?

[3336] and he put tattoos all over his dick and like bolts and it and shit That sounds awful Unless you're into dragon dicks I'm gonna just Joe Got a dragon on my back But dumbo do you have your phone on you Yes I do Okay I'm gonna send you a dick pick Nice Finally We've been friends a long time But I feel like It's about time It's about time We cross the threshold Really Billy.

[3337] Boom, Oh, solid.

[3338] There it is.

[3339] Okay.

[3340] That's about in line with the other jokes you've been thrown down.

[3341] Oh.

[3342] Interesting.

[3343] I get it.

[3344] It's a dick on a pick, folks.

[3345] A guitar pick.

[3346] Okay.

[3347] Joe, just to make you feel better, I'm going to send you a dick pick.

[3348] No, you don't have to.

[3349] I've seen them.

[3350] It's fine.

[3351] He's seen them all.

[3352] I've seen the one with the guy who's a football player and he wanted you could get into the shoe no should we end this i feel like we should just oh it didn't oh sorry guys did it go through i could play the one where they were on here in the podcast but bum bum bum we could do that jami really wants to play that one i feel like uh well he knows it's a good audio quality yeah that okay let's let's do that one is it still daylight outside uh yes it's daylight till 8 p .m now oh my god i was shooting bows and arrows at 7 45 the other day.

[3353] You were?

[3354] Yeah, it was clear enough.

[3355] Where do you shoot them into the abyss?

[3356] I'll show you.

[3357] Joe, where do you shoot your arrows?

[3358] Hold on.

[3359] Unfortunate spots.

[3360] Joe, I just sent it to you.

[3361] Okay.

[3362] How's I going to work?

[3363] It says sent.

[3364] Okay.

[3365] And you sent it to Jamie and it didn't work?

[3366] Is that what happened?

[3367] I mean, that's what it's feeling like.

[3368] Hey, tip of the hat to your lava lamps.

[3369] I'm just going to say that right now.

[3370] Old school.

[3371] I like them a lot.

[3372] I feel entranced by that.

[3373] I'm trying to go as hippie as I can without being a hippie.

[3374] No, that's totally cool.

[3375] You know what I get, okay, Jamie.

[3376] You've got a salt rock lamp.

[3377] I'm just going to say that that's great.

[3378] I've got a couple of those.

[3379] One of them died on us.

[3380] What?

[3381] Yeah, very sad.

[3382] Did it lose its positive ions?

[3383] That's a good question.

[3384] I think it's just the power cable crapped out.

[3385] That one's dead, right?

[3386] Is that one not work anymore?

[3387] Yeah, that one doesn't work, but that one works.

[3388] See, that one is lit up?

[3389] I love it.

[3390] It's a good size.

[3391] It's next to your marginal lamp.

[3392] Is that Marshall Amp also like a radio?

[3393] It's a Bluetooth speaker.

[3394] Yeah, I want one of those really badly.

[3395] Yeah, we can have that one.

[3396] They sound great.

[3397] Do you want it?

[3398] No, it's yours.

[3399] Nope, you could have it.

[3400] Got to clear this place out anywhere.

[3401] What?

[3402] We've got a new studio.

[3403] Okay, I'll take it.

[3404] Did that go to?

[3405] Yes, and I sent it to Jamie.

[3406] Oh, here we go.

[3407] Here we go.

[3408] We got this.

[3409] August 11th.

[3410] Suzanne Santos' new album.

[3411] Come soon.

[3412] See you.

[3413] See you.

[3414] See you.

[3415] we're young flashing your cut tearing shit up i'll bet you were a punk because it takes one to know a prodigal son yeah i bet you were a punk we did it folks damn good night